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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,992 --> 00:00:03,968 [ELECTRIC GUITAR PLAYING] 2 00:00:24,325 --> 00:00:25,805 [ELECTRIC GUITAR PLAYING] 3 00:00:25,805 --> 00:00:26,305 Heavy metal. 4 00:00:26,305 --> 00:00:28,772 Heavy metal is a lifestyle. 5 00:00:28,772 --> 00:00:29,522 Fill in the blank. 6 00:00:29,522 --> 00:00:31,255 Heavy metal is? 7 00:00:31,255 --> 00:00:33,235 Everything. 8 00:00:33,235 --> 00:00:35,710 Freedom, being yourself. 9 00:00:35,710 --> 00:00:38,680 Groupies, and it's metal that's heavy. 10 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:39,290 Heavy metal-- 11 00:00:39,290 --> 00:00:41,730 Changed my life. 12 00:00:41,730 --> 00:00:45,622 [AUDIENCE CHEERING] 13 00:00:46,122 --> 00:00:47,098 I'm Kyle. 14 00:00:47,098 --> 00:00:48,074 I'm Steve. 15 00:00:48,074 --> 00:00:51,110 My first concert was Rock Super Bowl Number 10. 16 00:00:51,110 --> 00:00:54,582 My first concert was Van Halen off the Van Halen II Tour. 17 00:00:54,582 --> 00:00:57,558 I have over 350 concert, band, rock & roll 18 00:00:57,558 --> 00:00:59,042 t-shirts in my collection. 19 00:00:59,042 --> 00:00:59,542 Yes. 20 00:00:59,542 --> 00:01:01,375 I've been Gene Simmons before for Halloween. 21 00:01:01,375 --> 00:01:03,014 Yes, the first song I learned on guitar 22 00:01:03,014 --> 00:01:04,502 was "Smoke on the Water." 23 00:01:04,502 --> 00:01:06,359 Watch out for shit bombs. 24 00:01:06,359 --> 00:01:08,900 And I had a skunk named Nicko named after the drummer of Iron 25 00:01:08,900 --> 00:01:09,600 Maiden. 26 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,310 In another life, I was a rock and roll musician. 27 00:01:12,310 --> 00:01:14,550 So you had this band in the '80s. 28 00:01:14,550 --> 00:01:18,280 Well, we were a band called Tryxx, T-R-Y-X-X. 29 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:19,950 We wanted to open up for Motley Crue. 30 00:01:19,950 --> 00:01:21,235 That was our goal in life. 31 00:01:21,235 --> 00:01:24,470 Did Tryxx ever get a taste of the rock star lives? 32 00:01:24,470 --> 00:01:26,497 Or was it just you guys practicing some songs, 33 00:01:26,497 --> 00:01:28,330 fighting with each other for a little while, 34 00:01:28,330 --> 00:01:30,530 and then drinking cheap beer until you passed out? 35 00:01:30,530 --> 00:01:32,156 We never really went anywhere. 36 00:01:32,156 --> 00:01:33,530 It was really a lot of potential. 37 00:01:33,530 --> 00:01:34,863 We were just out of high school. 38 00:01:34,863 --> 00:01:36,822 We just had a really cool band. 39 00:01:36,822 --> 00:01:38,260 Aw, I thought it was Loverboy. 40 00:01:38,260 --> 00:01:39,690 Almost like Loverboy or something. 41 00:01:39,690 --> 00:01:40,670 Loverboy. 42 00:01:40,670 --> 00:01:42,090 Maybe a little bit too Loverboy. 43 00:01:42,090 --> 00:01:44,215 Along the lines of Loverboy or something like that. 44 00:01:44,215 --> 00:01:45,640 You guys remind me of Loverboy. 45 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:46,970 Maybe a little Loverboy. 46 00:01:46,970 --> 00:01:49,660 Kind of like a transvestite Loverboy? 47 00:01:49,660 --> 00:01:52,953 Do you remember that band, Loverboy? 48 00:01:52,953 --> 00:01:56,020 And you guys, you'd break up, or whatever the case? 49 00:01:56,020 --> 00:01:57,620 Definitely in the long run it was just 50 00:01:57,620 --> 00:01:59,306 about not wanting the same thing. 51 00:01:59,306 --> 00:02:00,680 It's almost like we didn't really 52 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,280 give it the full effort that it deserved from back then. 53 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,794 So you guys, you've put the band together, 54 00:02:06,794 --> 00:02:08,265 and you're going to do a gig. 55 00:02:08,265 --> 00:02:09,470 And you guys are going to get together? 56 00:02:09,470 --> 00:02:10,470 Is that what's going on? 57 00:02:10,470 --> 00:02:12,660 You're literally going to take your five guys that 58 00:02:12,660 --> 00:02:15,640 were in this band 25 years ago, and you guys want to do a show? 59 00:02:15,640 --> 00:02:17,330 Are we reforming a band here? 60 00:02:17,330 --> 00:02:21,050 There's a lot worse ways you could waste your time. 61 00:02:21,050 --> 00:02:22,857 It depends on how bad you want it. 62 00:02:22,857 --> 00:02:24,690 I don't think you guys got a chance in hell. 63 00:02:24,690 --> 00:02:25,815 Something will just happen. 64 00:02:25,815 --> 00:02:27,050 You'll force it. 65 00:02:27,050 --> 00:02:27,970 Or you'll be homeless. 66 00:02:27,970 --> 00:02:28,440 Or that. 67 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:28,700 Yeah. 68 00:02:28,700 --> 00:02:30,460 If you really want to do it, and if you 69 00:02:30,460 --> 00:02:32,070 can convince the other guys. 70 00:02:32,070 --> 00:02:32,880 But be realistic. 71 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,480 Don't put too much on their plates. 72 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,756 They may not be able to digest it all. 73 00:02:36,756 --> 00:02:39,136 [PHONE RINGING] 74 00:02:39,136 --> 00:02:40,090 Hello? 75 00:02:40,090 --> 00:02:41,015 Gordon. 76 00:02:41,015 --> 00:02:43,060 Hey, what's going on, guys? 77 00:02:43,060 --> 00:02:45,860 We're about to start the next part of this process, which 78 00:02:45,860 --> 00:02:49,720 is actually us getting together at this point 79 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,450 and see if we can actually create some music, 80 00:02:52,450 --> 00:02:55,340 and just see what you're thinking 81 00:02:55,340 --> 00:02:59,017 and what's going on with you at the moment. 82 00:02:59,017 --> 00:03:03,418 To be honest with you, I'm just completely not 83 00:03:03,418 --> 00:03:06,360 wanting to do it. 84 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:07,896 OK. 85 00:03:07,896 --> 00:03:10,854 [ALARM RINGING] 86 00:03:10,854 --> 00:03:13,320 [MUSIC - LILLIAN AXE, "DREAM OF A LIFETIME"] 87 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,510 The 80's were wild, and the people that made that scene 88 00:03:16,510 --> 00:03:17,470 were wild. 89 00:03:17,470 --> 00:03:20,980 The era itself was something that was really special. 90 00:03:20,980 --> 00:03:22,010 It was electric. 91 00:03:22,010 --> 00:03:23,880 Santa Monica Boulevard, Sunset Boulevard-- 92 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,046 it was thousands of people walking down the streets. 93 00:03:26,046 --> 00:03:28,770 The Strip was the place to be, because of the community. 94 00:03:28,770 --> 00:03:31,900 Everybody knew that The Strip was legendary, 95 00:03:31,900 --> 00:03:34,810 so everybody flocked to those three blocks. 96 00:03:34,810 --> 00:03:37,870 Tonight we have metal on The Strip! 97 00:03:37,870 --> 00:03:38,730 Yeah! 98 00:03:38,730 --> 00:03:39,640 It was a party. 99 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,580 It was a literal 24/7 party. 100 00:03:42,580 --> 00:03:46,710 The economy was booming, and it was all about fashion. 101 00:03:46,710 --> 00:03:47,920 Girls were wild. 102 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,140 Record companies had money, and it was a party time. 103 00:03:51,140 --> 00:03:53,452 Everybody was walking around with big hair, 104 00:03:53,452 --> 00:03:55,780 and I think it was the volume of hair though. 105 00:03:55,780 --> 00:03:56,570 It was the height. 106 00:03:56,570 --> 00:03:59,090 It was just how high you could get your hair. 107 00:03:59,090 --> 00:04:01,930 So it was really a really happy time for everyone, 108 00:04:01,930 --> 00:04:05,700 not only for the economy, but also for the music industry 109 00:04:05,700 --> 00:04:07,490 and for the fans. 110 00:04:07,490 --> 00:04:08,136 Cinderella. 111 00:04:08,136 --> 00:04:08,636 Yeah! 112 00:04:08,636 --> 00:04:11,624 Woo! 113 00:04:11,624 --> 00:04:12,493 Loud guitars. 114 00:04:12,493 --> 00:04:14,730 I'm going to sing at the top of my lungs. 115 00:04:14,730 --> 00:04:16,582 You're going to play as fast as you can. 116 00:04:16,582 --> 00:04:18,290 We're going to do huge background vocals. 117 00:04:18,290 --> 00:04:19,540 That's what we're going to do. 118 00:04:19,540 --> 00:04:22,790 I'm like bang. 119 00:04:22,790 --> 00:04:27,155 [MUSIC - KEEL, "THE RIGHT TO ROCK"] 120 00:04:27,155 --> 00:04:27,882 It was different. 121 00:04:27,882 --> 00:04:29,800 The rules were different. 122 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,566 Artists and bands were able to be 123 00:04:32,566 --> 00:04:35,620 who they wanted to be and design their own thing. 124 00:04:35,620 --> 00:04:37,010 There were no rules. 125 00:04:37,010 --> 00:04:38,020 A lot of money involved. 126 00:04:38,020 --> 00:04:40,040 Everybody's career was involved, and things 127 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,730 were going really, really well. 128 00:04:41,730 --> 00:04:43,580 Just letting your hair down, literally. 129 00:04:43,580 --> 00:04:44,450 Ha. 130 00:04:44,450 --> 00:04:46,130 That part of it was sobering. 131 00:04:46,130 --> 00:04:47,930 Nothing else was sobering, but that was. 132 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,910 The LA scene was transferring over to Tampa, 133 00:05:02,910 --> 00:05:06,270 and it was more or less because of Julliet 134 00:05:06,270 --> 00:05:09,470 and their association with Kevin DuBrow. 135 00:05:09,470 --> 00:05:13,530 I met Kevin here in Tampa, and I played him my demo. 136 00:05:13,530 --> 00:05:15,910 When he was the biggest rock star in the world, 137 00:05:15,910 --> 00:05:16,700 he picked me. 138 00:05:16,700 --> 00:05:20,250 (SINGING) Rock talk take a stand. 139 00:05:20,250 --> 00:05:21,570 No restriction-- 140 00:05:21,570 --> 00:05:24,340 I remember watching those guys and thinking wow, 141 00:05:24,340 --> 00:05:25,860 wonder they get that Spandex. 142 00:05:25,860 --> 00:05:28,200 Wonder where they get their eyeliner. 143 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:29,970 We were trying to get attention. 144 00:05:29,970 --> 00:05:33,696 It wasn't like we weren't, so bring it on. 145 00:05:36,372 --> 00:05:42,040 They were really the band that brought the LA thing over, 146 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,867 and it lit on fire. 147 00:05:43,867 --> 00:05:46,996 [MUSIC - UNCLE SALLY, "COLD REACTION"] 148 00:05:46,996 --> 00:05:48,367 We had a great scene. 149 00:05:48,367 --> 00:05:49,200 It was unbelievable. 150 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,350 It had more metal bands per square inch 151 00:05:51,350 --> 00:05:52,990 than any city in America. 152 00:05:52,990 --> 00:05:54,660 There was music everywhere. 153 00:05:54,660 --> 00:05:55,954 There were venues everywhere. 154 00:05:55,954 --> 00:05:57,620 Tampa definitely felt like a second home 155 00:05:57,620 --> 00:05:59,328 to us if not a first home, because it was 156 00:05:59,328 --> 00:06:00,940 such an awesome rock market. 157 00:06:00,940 --> 00:06:02,920 I remember back in the day, Florida 158 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,470 was a great place to play. 159 00:06:04,470 --> 00:06:07,190 And I wouldn't say we were solely responsible for it, 160 00:06:07,190 --> 00:06:09,232 but we kinda put Tampa on the map, 161 00:06:09,232 --> 00:06:12,338 as far as there's some metal in this town. 162 00:06:16,002 --> 00:06:18,130 On one hand on our walls, we had pictures 163 00:06:18,130 --> 00:06:21,130 of Motley Crue, and Judas Priest, and Dokken, 164 00:06:21,130 --> 00:06:22,940 and we were heavily influenced by them 165 00:06:22,940 --> 00:06:25,020 but as far as performers, I would 166 00:06:25,020 --> 00:06:28,260 say that we were probably more influenced by the local bands 167 00:06:28,260 --> 00:06:29,940 that we saw than anything else. 168 00:06:29,940 --> 00:06:33,120 There was a great rock and roll band there called Stranger, 169 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,500 and we used to cover one of their songs. 170 00:06:35,500 --> 00:06:37,550 It was called "Jackie's So Bad." 171 00:06:37,550 --> 00:06:40,731 [MUSIC - "JACKIE'S SO BAD"] 172 00:06:41,230 --> 00:06:48,592 The classic Florida whiskey drinking, Okeechobee River, 173 00:06:48,592 --> 00:06:51,460 South Florida type of band. 174 00:06:51,460 --> 00:06:54,240 We made friends, and I think that part really 175 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,602 helped us step up and be a little different, 176 00:06:56,602 --> 00:06:57,310 than other bands. 177 00:07:04,170 --> 00:07:08,270 I always felt that Tampa Bay, it was great for the people. 178 00:07:08,270 --> 00:07:12,200 The fans was incredible, and there were some nice, big rock 179 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:13,525 clubs in the area. 180 00:07:13,525 --> 00:07:15,260 Oh, we have The Mark Twain, which 181 00:07:15,260 --> 00:07:16,900 was the legendary Tampa Club. 182 00:07:16,900 --> 00:07:17,790 ML Chasers. 183 00:07:17,790 --> 00:07:18,660 Club 19. 184 00:07:18,660 --> 00:07:19,460 The Power Club. 185 00:07:19,460 --> 00:07:20,670 49th Street Mining Company. 186 00:07:20,670 --> 00:07:21,670 The Rock-it Club. 187 00:07:21,670 --> 00:07:22,420 The Rock-it Club. 188 00:07:22,420 --> 00:07:23,230 The Rock-it Club? 189 00:07:23,230 --> 00:07:24,020 The Rock-it Club. 190 00:07:24,020 --> 00:07:27,050 The Rock-it Club, yes. 191 00:07:27,050 --> 00:07:28,740 There was a lot going on all the time, 192 00:07:28,740 --> 00:07:30,270 and we were in the middle of it all. 193 00:07:30,270 --> 00:07:34,050 We could only see what we were exposed to because of our age. 194 00:07:34,050 --> 00:07:37,160 So we weren't quite at the age of being able to go 195 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:38,790 into clubs, at least legally. 196 00:07:38,790 --> 00:07:40,930 We would sneak into a lot of the clubs, 197 00:07:40,930 --> 00:07:42,730 just so we could see these bands live. 198 00:07:42,730 --> 00:07:46,730 It was a very, very rich musical landscape that we came from. 199 00:07:46,730 --> 00:07:48,230 There were great bands playing there 200 00:07:48,230 --> 00:07:51,620 that we were influenced by; Savatage, Roxx Gang, 201 00:07:51,620 --> 00:07:53,100 Julliet, Stranger. 202 00:07:53,100 --> 00:07:55,800 All those guys were hitting their heyday in Tampa 203 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,427 when we were starting our band. 204 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,570 So Kyle and I met on this very field in the seventh grade. 205 00:08:07,570 --> 00:08:09,990 It was Tuesday, January 15, 1980. 206 00:08:09,990 --> 00:08:11,910 Are you serious? 207 00:08:11,910 --> 00:08:12,410 Yeah. 208 00:08:12,410 --> 00:08:13,570 How do you know that? 209 00:08:13,570 --> 00:08:14,600 I just remember. 210 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:19,750 This is where I guess our friendship started. 211 00:08:19,750 --> 00:08:21,406 He was like the new kid in school. 212 00:08:21,406 --> 00:08:23,030 He'd just moved into town or something. 213 00:08:23,030 --> 00:08:25,624 Apparently, I was the first person he met. 214 00:08:25,624 --> 00:08:26,540 I don't remember that. 215 00:08:26,540 --> 00:08:27,873 I guess it wasn't that eventful. 216 00:08:27,873 --> 00:08:29,970 It was Coach Long's PE class. 217 00:08:29,970 --> 00:08:35,380 So 100 degrees in Florida, and they're making us play soccer. 218 00:08:35,380 --> 00:08:36,380 I wasn't playing soccer. 219 00:08:36,380 --> 00:08:37,679 I was just standing there. 220 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,039 They can't make me play soccer. 221 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:41,289 I walked up, and I said hi, and you just 222 00:08:41,289 --> 00:08:44,169 went-- just shook me off. 223 00:08:44,169 --> 00:08:46,060 We instantly didn't like each other. 224 00:08:46,060 --> 00:08:47,800 The irony is is that in eighth grade, 225 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,490 you were voted most friendly, and you did not 226 00:08:50,490 --> 00:08:52,390 demonstrate that that day. 227 00:08:52,390 --> 00:08:54,140 Somehow, we became friends after all that. 228 00:08:54,140 --> 00:08:56,415 And 35 years later, here we are. 229 00:08:56,415 --> 00:08:57,956 Are they brewing the beer, or we have 230 00:08:57,956 --> 00:08:58,705 to get up and serve ourselves? 231 00:08:58,705 --> 00:08:59,830 Or what's going on? 232 00:09:07,750 --> 00:09:11,876 You liked-- oh, what was the band's name? 233 00:09:11,876 --> 00:09:13,580 Lynyrd Skynyrd? 234 00:09:13,580 --> 00:09:14,080 No? 235 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,000 I don't know. 236 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,090 Then when the yearbook photos came around 237 00:09:17,090 --> 00:09:21,090 I decided to be Bruce Dickinson, and I made it in the yearbook 238 00:09:21,090 --> 00:09:22,856 as Bruce Dickinson. 239 00:09:22,856 --> 00:09:27,720 Can you pinpoint when this band started and how it started? 240 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,080 How our band started? 241 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,487 Mhm. 242 00:09:30,487 --> 00:09:31,425 No. 243 00:09:31,425 --> 00:09:33,301 I don't remember. 244 00:09:33,301 --> 00:09:34,710 I don't remember. 245 00:09:34,710 --> 00:09:39,150 Our first band together was formed in 1984, 246 00:09:39,150 --> 00:09:41,490 and we were called Convict. 247 00:09:41,490 --> 00:09:43,010 That is the most metal fucking name. 248 00:09:43,010 --> 00:09:43,620 Heh. 249 00:09:43,620 --> 00:09:49,190 My parents were not into the look that I wanted 250 00:09:49,190 --> 00:09:50,690 and the music I wanted to listen to. 251 00:09:50,690 --> 00:09:52,057 You liked Bon Jovi. 252 00:09:52,057 --> 00:09:53,140 I know you liked Bon Jovi. 253 00:09:53,140 --> 00:09:53,620 Yeah. 254 00:09:53,620 --> 00:09:54,745 He thought he was Bon Jovi. 255 00:09:54,745 --> 00:09:56,100 Yeah. 256 00:09:56,100 --> 00:09:56,780 Permed yours. 257 00:09:56,780 --> 00:09:57,770 Permed yours. 258 00:09:57,770 --> 00:09:58,270 Yeah. 259 00:09:58,270 --> 00:09:59,060 Oh, yeah. 260 00:09:59,060 --> 00:10:00,520 The perms were good. 261 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:01,520 It was all about school. 262 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,090 It didn't matter what I wanted to do on any level. 263 00:10:04,090 --> 00:10:06,170 It was about school. 264 00:10:06,170 --> 00:10:09,720 The less they supported me, the more I wanted to do it. 265 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,700 It was just don't tell me I can't do this. 266 00:10:12,700 --> 00:10:15,020 My room was decorated. 267 00:10:15,020 --> 00:10:17,510 There was not an inch of wall space on my room 268 00:10:17,510 --> 00:10:20,440 that you could see-- posters, albums. 269 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,776 Every imaginable band was up there on the walls. 270 00:10:23,776 --> 00:10:25,400 We were already listening to the music. 271 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:26,858 We were already buying the records. 272 00:10:26,858 --> 00:10:29,100 We were already going to the concerts, 273 00:10:29,100 --> 00:10:31,090 so what's the next logical step? 274 00:10:31,090 --> 00:10:33,860 I think it would be to form a band ourselves. 275 00:10:33,860 --> 00:10:35,540 Our parents thought we were crazy. 276 00:10:35,540 --> 00:10:37,870 We didn't like that type of music. 277 00:10:37,870 --> 00:10:39,540 I didn't like that type of music. 278 00:10:39,540 --> 00:10:41,720 It was very loud. 279 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,600 [MUSIC - FEMME FATALE, "LADY IN WAITING"] 280 00:10:46,740 --> 00:10:49,010 I've saved every rehearsal tape... everything. 281 00:10:49,010 --> 00:10:51,393 We have cops knocking on the door of our warehouse. 282 00:10:51,393 --> 00:10:53,570 Shut it down now. 283 00:10:53,570 --> 00:10:55,530 Oh, come on. 284 00:10:55,530 --> 00:10:58,460 You guys have been warned a few times. 285 00:10:58,460 --> 00:10:58,960 Warned? 286 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,251 You know it's pretty late, and these people around here 287 00:11:01,251 --> 00:11:02,390 have gotta sleep. 288 00:11:02,390 --> 00:11:04,644 And what's the latest time? 289 00:11:04,644 --> 00:11:06,057 7 o'clock. 290 00:11:06,057 --> 00:11:07,470 7 o'clock? 291 00:11:07,470 --> 00:11:09,220 Our first show was a train wreck. 292 00:11:09,220 --> 00:11:12,390 It was a self-produced gig that we did at a skating rink. 293 00:11:12,390 --> 00:11:15,400 I did a two tier Battle Of The Bands, 294 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,860 had too much better bands going after each other, 295 00:11:18,860 --> 00:11:21,000 and then three lesser bands, including ourselves, 296 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:21,959 going after each other. 297 00:11:21,959 --> 00:11:23,666 Remember, it was the Battle of the Bands. 298 00:11:23,666 --> 00:11:24,490 I don't remember. 299 00:11:24,490 --> 00:11:24,550 [LAUGHS] 300 00:11:24,550 --> 00:11:25,841 It was the Battle of the Bands. 301 00:11:25,841 --> 00:11:26,810 It was two divisions. 302 00:11:26,810 --> 00:11:27,393 Two divisions? 303 00:11:27,393 --> 00:11:29,890 There was a novice division, which included us. 304 00:11:29,890 --> 00:11:30,910 We were novice? 305 00:11:30,910 --> 00:11:32,350 What the hell? 306 00:11:32,350 --> 00:11:36,610 It wasn't too hard for us to win that Battle of the Bands, 307 00:11:36,610 --> 00:11:39,230 as bad as we were, because when you pick your own competition, 308 00:11:39,230 --> 00:11:40,063 that's what happens. 309 00:11:40,063 --> 00:11:42,675 And that it was really kind of what it was. 310 00:11:42,675 --> 00:11:44,800 It was the very first show, and there were jitters. 311 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,232 We looked cool, and the crowd responded, because we looked 312 00:11:48,232 --> 00:11:49,440 a lot better than we sounded. 313 00:11:53,090 --> 00:11:55,510 The old Superskate now Jack Joyner Heating 314 00:11:55,510 --> 00:11:58,185 and Air Conditioning. 315 00:11:58,185 --> 00:12:02,750 Right there is where the bra in teeth photo was taken. 316 00:12:02,750 --> 00:12:04,290 And the first show ever played. 317 00:12:04,290 --> 00:12:04,820 Right here. 318 00:12:08,257 --> 00:12:11,142 I wonder if Jack Joyner would have liked it. 319 00:12:11,142 --> 00:12:13,550 Well, Convict, after a couple of shows, 320 00:12:13,550 --> 00:12:15,510 started to fall apart at the seams, number one. 321 00:12:15,510 --> 00:12:18,810 So we had some personnel changes. 322 00:12:18,810 --> 00:12:22,810 [MUSIC - ROXY BLUE, "IF I COULD"] 323 00:12:32,310 --> 00:12:33,770 What was the name of the band? 324 00:12:33,770 --> 00:12:37,020 It's like Max Factor, or like-- 325 00:12:37,020 --> 00:12:39,830 What do I think of that name? 326 00:12:39,830 --> 00:12:42,750 Moxie Men, or let's see. 327 00:12:42,750 --> 00:12:46,800 The first thing I think of is a guy that gets a prostitute. 328 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,031 [LAUGHS] Right? 329 00:12:48,031 --> 00:12:48,530 Yeah. 330 00:12:48,530 --> 00:12:50,071 There's definitely an X in your name. 331 00:12:50,071 --> 00:12:50,780 How about two? 332 00:12:50,780 --> 00:12:51,710 Am I right with an X? 333 00:12:51,710 --> 00:12:52,210 Yes. 334 00:12:52,210 --> 00:12:52,660 I am? 335 00:12:52,660 --> 00:12:53,180 You are. 336 00:12:53,180 --> 00:12:54,980 Styx? 337 00:12:54,980 --> 00:12:55,590 [LAUGHTER] 338 00:12:55,590 --> 00:12:56,491 I told you. 339 00:12:56,491 --> 00:12:56,990 No. 340 00:12:56,990 --> 00:13:00,950 Tryxx, and I'll spell it for you, T-R-Y-X-X. 341 00:13:00,950 --> 00:13:02,240 Not so great. 342 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:03,820 I love that name. 343 00:13:03,820 --> 00:13:05,160 I love the name Tryxx. 344 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,000 It's great, T-R-Y-X-X. It's awesome. 345 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,990 You've got to think about adding a third X. 346 00:13:10,990 --> 00:13:12,140 Triple XXX. 347 00:13:12,140 --> 00:13:15,230 The name of the band is Tryxx, but it wasn't really Tryxx, 348 00:13:15,230 --> 00:13:20,230 unless there were two Xs-- or three, if you really 349 00:13:20,230 --> 00:13:23,030 wanted to underline it and do the whole triple XXX porn 350 00:13:23,030 --> 00:13:23,550 thing. 351 00:13:23,550 --> 00:13:25,560 I'm trying to figure out which one you is. 352 00:13:25,560 --> 00:13:26,800 Can I have this? 353 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,342 Is that you? 354 00:13:28,342 --> 00:13:29,420 Is that you? 355 00:13:29,420 --> 00:13:30,599 I can see it. 356 00:13:30,599 --> 00:13:31,140 I can see it. 357 00:13:31,140 --> 00:13:32,490 It's cool, the double X? 358 00:13:32,490 --> 00:13:33,400 Yeah, it's cool. 359 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,070 Come on. 360 00:13:36,070 --> 00:13:37,110 Is that you? 361 00:13:37,110 --> 00:13:38,750 It sounds very '80s. 362 00:13:38,750 --> 00:13:40,502 [LAUGHTER] 363 00:13:40,502 --> 00:13:41,820 Come on. 364 00:13:41,820 --> 00:13:43,230 That's you there? 365 00:13:43,230 --> 00:13:45,720 It just screams of a time. 366 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,240 I certainly hate to rain on anybody's parade, 367 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,170 but it seems a little contrived maybe. 368 00:13:52,170 --> 00:13:54,881 You probably have to add something to it. 369 00:13:54,881 --> 00:13:55,380 Good. 370 00:13:55,380 --> 00:13:55,879 I like that. 371 00:13:55,879 --> 00:14:00,200 Like Tryxx For Free, or Tryxx $5, or something like that. 372 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,770 Again, if I got a package that said Tryxx on it, 373 00:14:02,770 --> 00:14:05,670 I'd be-- I might want to listen to it, just because I'd 374 00:14:05,670 --> 00:14:07,170 be like you've got to be kidding me. 375 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,890 Tryxx was Gordon on lead guitar, Kyle as the lead singer, 376 00:14:13,890 --> 00:14:18,480 myself, Steve, as the rhythm guitarist, J.T. on bass, 377 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,646 and Jeff on drums. 378 00:14:21,646 --> 00:14:23,270 I was trying to steer us in a direction 379 00:14:23,270 --> 00:14:26,600 of becoming a club band, where we were doing 40 songs a night. 380 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,613 I think beyond that, to become an original band. 381 00:14:29,613 --> 00:14:30,946 [MUSIC - TRYXX, "LADY DIAMONDS"] 382 00:14:33,726 --> 00:14:36,100 I think the originals that you guys did were really cool. 383 00:14:36,100 --> 00:14:37,160 You guys wrote hooks. 384 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,406 Did we have potential to continue to play skating rinks 385 00:14:40,406 --> 00:14:41,280 and things like that? 386 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:42,100 Sure. 387 00:14:42,100 --> 00:14:45,370 Potential to make a record and go on tour? 388 00:14:45,370 --> 00:14:46,260 Probably not. 389 00:14:46,260 --> 00:14:48,050 For a bunch of kids our age, we're 390 00:14:48,050 --> 00:14:51,130 talking 17, 18, 19, years old and starting 391 00:14:51,130 --> 00:14:53,159 to write our own material was saying something. 392 00:14:53,159 --> 00:14:55,700 And maybe I'm the only one that thinks that we had something, 393 00:14:55,700 --> 00:14:57,129 but we did. 394 00:14:57,129 --> 00:14:57,920 A little something. 395 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:58,878 No, we had something. 396 00:15:02,470 --> 00:15:06,490 As an '80s hair band, I think T-R-Y-X-X is close to some 397 00:15:06,490 --> 00:15:07,730 friends of mine in Trixter. 398 00:15:07,730 --> 00:15:08,710 Oh, you mean Trixter? 399 00:15:08,710 --> 00:15:10,080 Now, there's another band called Trixter. 400 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:11,100 What about Trixter? 401 00:15:11,100 --> 00:15:14,025 It sounds really like Trixter. 402 00:15:14,025 --> 00:15:16,520 It's kind of half ass-ed, don't you think? 403 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:17,980 It's not finished. 404 00:15:17,980 --> 00:15:19,090 It's not finished. 405 00:15:19,090 --> 00:15:20,480 [LAUGHS] 406 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,040 It explains why you gave it up. 407 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:22,970 [LAUGHS] 408 00:15:22,970 --> 00:15:25,640 But Tryxx is good for an '80s hair band. 409 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:26,530 For something now? 410 00:15:29,420 --> 00:15:29,970 No. 411 00:15:29,970 --> 00:15:31,930 That is a very rocking name-- very rocking. 412 00:15:31,930 --> 00:15:33,650 Well, you think that will fly today? 413 00:15:33,650 --> 00:15:35,098 Absolutely not. 414 00:15:35,098 --> 00:15:38,478 [MUSIC - THEATRE, "DIRTY SECRETS"] 415 00:15:42,816 --> 00:15:45,320 Did you guys talk to the other guys in the band? 416 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,950 Where the hell is everybody? 417 00:15:46,950 --> 00:15:48,880 We still need to go and find some of the guys. 418 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,296 We don't even know where they are. 419 00:15:50,296 --> 00:15:51,840 [LAUGHTER] 420 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,240 And then see if they want to actually do it. 421 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,050 From Detroit, Michigan, Mr. J.T. LeNoir. 422 00:15:58,050 --> 00:16:02,880 J.T., I think him and I got along immediately. 423 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,575 He was the chick magnet of the band. 424 00:16:04,575 --> 00:16:06,450 I don't remember much about his bass playing, 425 00:16:06,450 --> 00:16:07,400 to be honest with you. 426 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:12,130 I don't recall if he was good, if he was not good. 427 00:16:12,130 --> 00:16:13,570 I think he did the job. 428 00:16:13,570 --> 00:16:15,680 He lightened it up a little bit for us, I think. 429 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,820 He was a really nice guy. 430 00:16:17,820 --> 00:16:19,680 He was a lot of fun to hang out with. 431 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,660 We should go look for him, and then if we can 432 00:16:21,660 --> 00:16:23,300 find a phone number, call him. 433 00:16:23,300 --> 00:16:26,340 The obvious place to start is Facebook. 434 00:16:26,340 --> 00:16:27,394 Is that him? 435 00:16:27,394 --> 00:16:27,894 No. 436 00:16:27,894 --> 00:16:30,270 What are you, blind or stupid? 437 00:16:30,270 --> 00:16:31,635 Is that him? 438 00:16:31,635 --> 00:16:33,860 Is that him? 439 00:16:33,860 --> 00:16:34,715 Is that him? 440 00:16:34,715 --> 00:16:36,660 What if you just use that right there? 441 00:16:36,660 --> 00:16:37,660 Shut it! 442 00:16:37,660 --> 00:16:39,540 Gordon, who was our lead guitar player, 443 00:16:39,540 --> 00:16:43,600 was my roommate back in the day, and it was because of him 444 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,710 that this band really got started. 445 00:16:45,710 --> 00:16:48,305 I just remember he had a great sound to his guitar. 446 00:16:48,305 --> 00:16:51,530 [MUSIC - TRYXX, "REACH FOR THE STARS"] 447 00:16:52,030 --> 00:16:55,720 He was quietly pissed off, very withdrawn, 448 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,980 but he was a brilliant guitar player. 449 00:16:58,980 --> 00:17:04,020 I would have probably went for the open, no shirt man 450 00:17:04,020 --> 00:17:05,690 right here, with the chest hair. 451 00:17:05,690 --> 00:17:06,560 This guy right here? 452 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:07,390 Who's this? 453 00:17:07,390 --> 00:17:08,069 That's Gordon. 454 00:17:08,069 --> 00:17:09,235 He's our lead guitar player. 455 00:17:09,235 --> 00:17:10,890 Gordon's super cute. 456 00:17:10,890 --> 00:17:14,099 We are in the process of seeking people 457 00:17:14,099 --> 00:17:19,730 out and trying to best as we can put that band together. 458 00:17:19,730 --> 00:17:20,910 Right, right. 459 00:17:20,910 --> 00:17:23,530 And we would very much like to know 460 00:17:23,530 --> 00:17:26,410 if you might be interested in pursuing that road 461 00:17:26,410 --> 00:17:28,270 and see what happens. 462 00:17:28,270 --> 00:17:32,110 Well, the only real issue that I have with it 463 00:17:32,110 --> 00:17:35,790 is basically some mental health issues, anxiety 464 00:17:35,790 --> 00:17:36,760 and panic issues. 465 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,540 That would be the thing holding me back. 466 00:17:38,540 --> 00:17:41,717 I certainly wouldn't have any problem hooking up 467 00:17:41,717 --> 00:17:42,300 with you guys. 468 00:17:42,300 --> 00:17:45,579 I think it would be cool if we did it-- 469 00:17:45,579 --> 00:17:47,120 I don't know if it's feasible or not, 470 00:17:47,120 --> 00:17:49,950 but if we could work out maybe some original material instead 471 00:17:49,950 --> 00:17:51,390 of just playing the old-- 472 00:17:51,390 --> 00:17:52,510 No. 473 00:17:52,510 --> 00:17:53,750 That's the idea, actually. 474 00:17:53,750 --> 00:17:54,480 Yeah. 475 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,300 That would be cool. 476 00:17:56,300 --> 00:18:02,740 As far as me being able to get up on stage and not lose it, 477 00:18:02,740 --> 00:18:04,749 that concerns me. 478 00:18:04,749 --> 00:18:05,790 Well, I'll tell you what. 479 00:18:05,790 --> 00:18:07,931 We plan on doing this thing, and we 480 00:18:07,931 --> 00:18:09,930 don't know how long it's going to take to do it. 481 00:18:09,930 --> 00:18:10,240 Right. 482 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:11,823 You don't know where it's going to go. 483 00:18:11,823 --> 00:18:12,820 It may not go anywhere. 484 00:18:12,820 --> 00:18:13,600 Right. 485 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,040 Well, that's what my question was. 486 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,150 It was like well, can Jeff still play drums? 487 00:18:18,150 --> 00:18:21,260 I think he's got a pretty good career going. 488 00:18:21,260 --> 00:18:24,100 I'm not really sure what happened to J.T. 489 00:18:24,100 --> 00:18:26,660 That is the-- currently where are they now file? 490 00:18:26,660 --> 00:18:28,620 Yeah, exactly. 491 00:18:28,620 --> 00:18:30,200 Is that him? 492 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,460 That's not him, but that's him. 493 00:18:32,460 --> 00:18:33,750 Is this him? 494 00:18:33,750 --> 00:18:34,250 That's him. 495 00:18:34,250 --> 00:18:35,850 Mhm. 496 00:18:35,850 --> 00:18:37,640 And his wife. 497 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,104 Do you want to friend him? 498 00:18:40,104 --> 00:18:40,620 No. 499 00:18:40,620 --> 00:18:41,740 We should call him. 500 00:18:41,740 --> 00:18:46,487 We found J.T. in Michigan, but we can't find a phone number, 501 00:18:46,487 --> 00:18:48,070 so I have to pay for his fucking phone 502 00:18:48,070 --> 00:18:50,680 number, which just thrills me. 503 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,084 How much is that? 504 00:18:52,084 --> 00:18:52,959 $1.95. 505 00:18:52,959 --> 00:18:54,125 What if it's a wrong number? 506 00:18:54,125 --> 00:18:56,160 Then I'm out a buck 95. 507 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,933 Oh, well. 508 00:18:57,933 --> 00:18:58,932 [DISCONNECTED LINE TONE] 509 00:18:58,932 --> 00:19:02,420 The number you have reached, 2-1-4-- 510 00:19:02,420 --> 00:19:05,190 If we don't get through, this will be the fifth phone number. 511 00:19:05,190 --> 00:19:08,270 The number you have dialed is not in service. 512 00:19:08,270 --> 00:19:10,930 Please check the number and dial again. 513 00:19:10,930 --> 00:19:12,710 We could friend him on Facebook, man, 514 00:19:12,710 --> 00:19:15,580 but I don't want to chase him off. 515 00:19:15,580 --> 00:19:17,038 Done. 516 00:19:17,038 --> 00:19:18,496 [PHONE RINGING] 517 00:19:18,496 --> 00:19:19,470 Hello? 518 00:19:19,470 --> 00:19:22,364 Hello, is this J.T., former bass player of Tryxx? 519 00:19:22,364 --> 00:19:23,298 Yeah. 520 00:19:23,298 --> 00:19:24,700 How are you doing, man? 521 00:19:24,700 --> 00:19:27,696 Well, we do have a reason for our call. 522 00:19:27,696 --> 00:19:30,190 What's that? 523 00:19:30,190 --> 00:19:31,890 We're putting the band back together, 524 00:19:31,890 --> 00:19:33,270 and we're making a film about it. 525 00:19:33,270 --> 00:19:35,252 Are you in? 526 00:19:35,252 --> 00:19:38,640 [LAUGHTER] 527 00:19:40,076 --> 00:19:40,576 Yeah. 528 00:19:40,576 --> 00:19:44,650 I'm in, but I don't know how I'd work it out-- 529 00:19:44,650 --> 00:19:47,310 We'll work out the details when we get to that point. 530 00:19:47,310 --> 00:19:50,445 But right now, we're just rounding up the guys. 531 00:19:50,445 --> 00:19:50,944 Hello? 532 00:19:50,944 --> 00:19:53,728 Is Jeff B. Heinz there? 533 00:19:53,728 --> 00:19:54,660 This is him. 534 00:19:54,660 --> 00:19:56,140 Jeff? 535 00:19:56,140 --> 00:20:01,180 Boy, we tainted that guy's high school, I think, 536 00:20:01,180 --> 00:20:03,820 since he was the youngest one in the band. 537 00:20:03,820 --> 00:20:07,360 Jeff, think back to 1986, and what band 538 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:08,610 you were playing in back then. 539 00:20:12,354 --> 00:20:13,290 Uhhh '86? 540 00:20:13,290 --> 00:20:15,410 Arguably, the best drummer I ever played with. 541 00:20:15,410 --> 00:20:17,200 Do you remember the band? 542 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,430 '86 would have been-- 543 00:20:21,430 --> 00:20:24,610 He just had this instinct more than anything else. 544 00:20:24,610 --> 00:20:25,560 It wasn't flashy. 545 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:26,830 It wasn't a style thing. 546 00:20:26,830 --> 00:20:27,920 It was instinct. 547 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,249 I remember the band. 548 00:20:29,249 --> 00:20:31,920 Is this Steve McClure? 549 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,250 It sure as hell is, and Kyle Kruger, Esq. 550 00:20:35,250 --> 00:20:36,210 Oh, my lord. 551 00:20:36,210 --> 00:20:37,070 What's up, man? 552 00:20:37,070 --> 00:20:38,911 How are you doing, dude? 553 00:20:38,911 --> 00:20:39,410 Hey, man. 554 00:20:39,410 --> 00:20:40,910 I'm doing all right. 555 00:20:40,910 --> 00:20:45,629 I think he was just in it for fun, more than anything else. 556 00:20:45,629 --> 00:20:46,920 Putting the band back together? 557 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,380 Are we going on tour? 558 00:20:48,380 --> 00:20:49,255 Are you in? 559 00:20:49,255 --> 00:20:51,130 I mean, if you're going to do the whole thing 560 00:20:51,130 --> 00:20:54,900 and going somewhere to play a gig, I'll do it. 561 00:20:54,900 --> 00:20:55,530 Nice. 562 00:20:55,530 --> 00:20:56,030 Sweet. 563 00:20:56,030 --> 00:20:56,910 All right. 564 00:20:56,910 --> 00:20:58,450 That's all we wanted to hear, man. 565 00:20:58,450 --> 00:20:59,150 All right, man. 566 00:20:59,150 --> 00:20:59,610 It's been great. 567 00:20:59,610 --> 00:21:00,140 It's good to see you. 568 00:21:00,140 --> 00:21:00,640 Yeah. 569 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:01,480 You too man, great. 570 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:02,630 You guys take it easy. 571 00:21:02,630 --> 00:21:02,820 All right. 572 00:21:02,820 --> 00:21:03,320 See you. 573 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:03,843 Bye. 574 00:21:03,843 --> 00:21:04,630 All right. 575 00:21:04,630 --> 00:21:05,230 Take care. 576 00:21:05,230 --> 00:21:05,980 Talk to you, Jeff. 577 00:21:05,980 --> 00:21:06,886 Good talking to you. 578 00:21:06,886 --> 00:21:07,176 Thanks, guys. 579 00:21:07,176 --> 00:21:07,760 Take care. 580 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:07,980 See you. 581 00:21:07,980 --> 00:21:08,290 Bye bye. 582 00:21:08,290 --> 00:21:08,790 Later. 583 00:21:08,790 --> 00:21:10,546 He didn't even remember the band. 584 00:21:10,546 --> 00:21:12,034 [LAUGHTER] 585 00:21:13,030 --> 00:21:15,650 I think it's impossible to break into the music business. 586 00:21:15,650 --> 00:21:18,720 I mean no one buys records anymore. 587 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,360 [MUSIC - KIDD BLUE, "BIG TROUBLE"] 588 00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:25,570 And to do it and make a living at it is next to impossible. 589 00:21:25,570 --> 00:21:27,760 It's a coin toss. 590 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,070 The music business is a coin toss. 591 00:21:30,070 --> 00:21:33,140 No matter how good you are or no matter how good you're not, 592 00:21:33,140 --> 00:21:35,350 sometimes you hit it, and sometimes you don't. 593 00:21:35,350 --> 00:21:35,960 Most don't. 594 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,978 [SINGING] Have you heard the news -- 595 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,970 The idea of I'm going to write some songs, date a supermodel, 596 00:21:44,970 --> 00:21:46,770 and then I'm going to get signed-- 597 00:21:46,770 --> 00:21:49,930 that's a pretty iffy business model. 598 00:21:49,930 --> 00:21:51,520 People don't buy CDs, man. 599 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:52,840 They don't buy CDs. 600 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,970 You sells 25,000 records, and you're number one. 601 00:21:54,970 --> 00:21:57,437 You're still broke, but you're number one. 602 00:21:57,437 --> 00:21:58,395 What does that get you? 603 00:21:58,395 --> 00:21:59,900 You're the number one broke guy. 604 00:21:59,900 --> 00:22:01,500 Nobody's making any money anymore, 605 00:22:01,500 --> 00:22:05,720 and it's only the select few that you constantly 606 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:06,690 hear on the radio. 607 00:22:06,690 --> 00:22:08,890 It's the same bands played over and over again. 608 00:22:08,890 --> 00:22:11,210 To try to break a new artist is insane. 609 00:22:11,210 --> 00:22:14,570 The music business now is so incredibly diluted. 610 00:22:14,570 --> 00:22:16,600 There's so much out there. 611 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,450 Back in the day, there was a lot of people 612 00:22:19,450 --> 00:22:22,510 that gambled a little bit more and threw money around. 613 00:22:22,510 --> 00:22:26,760 Today, they don't do it anymore, and so in today's world, 614 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,450 the bands have to be smarter than ever. 615 00:22:29,450 --> 00:22:31,039 It's not like it used to be where 616 00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:33,080 you got a record company that's going to give you 617 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,496 all this money, and put a bunch of tons of money into you, 618 00:22:35,496 --> 00:22:38,910 and make sure you get radio play, and everything else. 619 00:22:38,910 --> 00:22:41,760 There's no record stores anymore. 620 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,260 It's a whole different animal. 621 00:22:43,260 --> 00:22:45,430 It's tough man. 622 00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:47,010 Nobody sells records. 623 00:22:47,010 --> 00:22:48,230 Nobody buys CDs. 624 00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:51,650 Why would you, when you can get it for free? 625 00:22:51,650 --> 00:22:55,590 Look, business is tough, regardless of what kind it is. 626 00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:58,330 But the music business now, it's definitely 627 00:22:58,330 --> 00:23:00,370 more of an uphill battle than it's ever been. 628 00:23:00,370 --> 00:23:03,120 The record companies are down to skeleton staffs. 629 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:08,180 There's no promotion people there working your record. 630 00:23:08,180 --> 00:23:11,234 They're waiting for the band to go out and do it on their own. 631 00:23:11,234 --> 00:23:12,900 The problem right now, the enemy I think 632 00:23:12,900 --> 00:23:16,332 is just because of Pro Tools and all these kinds of-- there's so 633 00:23:16,332 --> 00:23:18,040 much music out there, and there's so much 634 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,310 music that's good. 635 00:23:19,310 --> 00:23:21,330 And I think personally, you're better off 636 00:23:21,330 --> 00:23:23,765 being horrible because at least something horrible, 637 00:23:23,765 --> 00:23:24,740 I'm going to go whoa. 638 00:23:24,740 --> 00:23:26,530 That was so bad, you've got to hear this. 639 00:23:26,530 --> 00:23:30,410 You have to get this many downloads to make minimum wage. 640 00:23:30,410 --> 00:23:33,920 Seriously, an artist doesn't even make minimum wage. 641 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,437 You can make more money at McDonald's. 642 00:23:36,437 --> 00:23:40,620 So we're packing up and heading off 643 00:23:40,620 --> 00:23:44,380 to see J.T., who we haven't seen in 25 years. 644 00:23:44,380 --> 00:23:47,880 So we're going to talk to him about what's 645 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,660 in the future for us, and what his involvement is going to be, 646 00:23:51,660 --> 00:23:54,000 and how we can get things moving again. 647 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,379 So we're off to Flint, Michigan. 648 00:23:57,379 --> 00:23:58,920 Please make sure all carry on luggage 649 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,820 is completely stowed underneath the seat in front of you. 650 00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:11,160 Roll 'em up. 651 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,160 While we're in Detroit, I gotta make a pit stop. 652 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,460 Where? 653 00:24:16,460 --> 00:24:19,313 I gotta pick up a package from a guy. 654 00:24:19,313 --> 00:24:20,726 [LAUGHTER] 655 00:24:20,726 --> 00:24:25,702 I think he's up here, on the corner, but it won't take long. 656 00:24:25,702 --> 00:24:28,660 [MUSIC - XANDER DEMOS, "FLINT HAS FALLEN"] 657 00:24:34,521 --> 00:24:35,562 Oh, look at those people. 658 00:24:35,562 --> 00:24:37,260 Oh, that looks a little sketchy. 659 00:24:37,260 --> 00:24:39,034 Let's get -- 660 00:24:39,034 --> 00:24:40,986 [DOOR KNOCK] 661 00:24:42,926 --> 00:24:43,426 Hey. 662 00:24:43,426 --> 00:24:44,890 What's up, dude? 663 00:24:44,890 --> 00:24:48,294 How are you doing? 664 00:24:48,294 --> 00:24:48,794 Hello. 665 00:24:48,794 --> 00:24:51,270 Long time no see, man. 666 00:24:51,270 --> 00:24:53,170 And I don't owe you shit, by the way. 667 00:24:53,170 --> 00:24:56,130 For the last 25 years, he has been bitching and moaning 668 00:24:56,130 --> 00:24:57,920 about you owing him $100. 669 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,780 And then yesterday he had this epiphany. 670 00:24:59,780 --> 00:25:00,530 Oh, wait a second. 671 00:25:00,530 --> 00:25:01,526 That wasn't him. 672 00:25:01,526 --> 00:25:02,026 [LAUGHTER] 673 00:25:02,026 --> 00:25:03,590 Thanks for having us over. 674 00:25:03,590 --> 00:25:05,440 Yeah, man. 675 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,340 Thanks for coming. 676 00:25:06,340 --> 00:25:07,350 Kind of a long trip. 677 00:25:07,350 --> 00:25:10,180 Has it really been 26 years? 678 00:25:10,180 --> 00:25:16,841 Well, we actually broke up in 1987, and I think it was-- 679 00:25:16,841 --> 00:25:17,590 And what happened? 680 00:25:17,590 --> 00:25:18,131 It was March. 681 00:25:18,131 --> 00:25:21,020 I really don't know why we broke up. 682 00:25:21,020 --> 00:25:24,536 We talked a lot about me and Kyle fighting, and that was it. 683 00:25:24,536 --> 00:25:26,910 I do remember going to the warehouse, packing up my shit, 684 00:25:26,910 --> 00:25:29,850 and leaving before a show. 685 00:25:29,850 --> 00:25:32,160 This one's going out to a certain person-- 686 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,750 he knows who he is-- who screwed over a certain band, 687 00:25:35,750 --> 00:25:39,224 a certain two weeks ago before a certain show. 688 00:25:39,224 --> 00:25:40,640 We never had really good dynamics. 689 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,514 Because we were always just playing covers, man. 690 00:25:43,514 --> 00:25:45,180 Yeah, but we were playing our own stuff. 691 00:25:45,180 --> 00:25:47,470 Oh, there were like three songs, and they were all shit. 692 00:25:47,470 --> 00:25:48,220 They weren't shit. 693 00:25:48,220 --> 00:25:49,439 Yes, they were. 694 00:25:49,439 --> 00:25:51,230 Coming from somebody who didn't write them? 695 00:25:51,230 --> 00:25:54,229 Really, like I didn't write the chorus for "Eyes Of Fire?" 696 00:25:54,229 --> 00:25:55,103 Yes, I believe I did. 697 00:25:55,103 --> 00:25:56,760 Oh wait, no. 698 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:57,650 The fuck I didn't. 699 00:25:57,650 --> 00:25:58,775 You played three chords. 700 00:25:58,775 --> 00:25:59,940 I wrote the chorus. 701 00:25:59,940 --> 00:26:00,520 You did not. 702 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,930 I wrote the guitar part for the chorus. 703 00:26:02,930 --> 00:26:04,336 That's not the song. 704 00:26:04,336 --> 00:26:05,248 It is not the song. 705 00:26:05,248 --> 00:26:06,160 Yes, it is. 706 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:06,890 No, it's not. 707 00:26:06,890 --> 00:26:08,206 Was it part of the song? 708 00:26:08,206 --> 00:26:09,361 It's three chords, man. 709 00:26:09,361 --> 00:26:09,860 Really? 710 00:26:09,860 --> 00:26:11,180 Don't knock yourself out. 711 00:26:11,180 --> 00:26:11,680 OK. 712 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,126 It's not the vocal melody. 713 00:26:13,126 --> 00:26:14,572 I still wrote it. 714 00:26:14,572 --> 00:26:16,480 You're acting like you wrote that whole song, 715 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,230 and that's not the case. 716 00:26:20,230 --> 00:26:22,190 It's called a collaboration. 717 00:26:22,190 --> 00:26:22,690 Not at all. 718 00:26:22,690 --> 00:26:23,674 Yes. 719 00:26:23,674 --> 00:26:24,658 No. 720 00:26:24,658 --> 00:26:27,610 [SINGING] All I do is stare - - 721 00:26:27,610 --> 00:26:30,070 This song's pretty terrible too. 722 00:26:30,070 --> 00:26:33,022 It had potential. 723 00:26:33,022 --> 00:26:36,958 [MUSIC - TRYXX, "EYES OF FIRE"] 724 00:27:01,660 --> 00:27:03,640 (SINGING) Eyes of fire. 725 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,620 Eyes of fire. 726 00:27:05,620 --> 00:27:07,105 You know what? 727 00:27:07,105 --> 00:27:09,580 For our very first song that we ever wrote, 728 00:27:09,580 --> 00:27:10,570 this wasn't too bad. 729 00:27:13,540 --> 00:27:16,015 (SINGING) Eyes of fire. 730 00:27:16,015 --> 00:27:19,480 They let you know it was all your fault. 731 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:25,382 You're such a liar when you never heard my call. 732 00:27:25,382 --> 00:27:27,590 I would rate our talent level, on a scale of 1 to 10, 733 00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:29,520 about 2 back then. 734 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,240 Probably a 6. 735 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,508 We were awful, all of us. 736 00:27:34,508 --> 00:27:35,894 Here we go. 737 00:27:35,894 --> 00:27:38,210 (SCREAMING) Stare! 738 00:27:38,210 --> 00:27:40,352 That was almost on key. 739 00:27:40,352 --> 00:27:42,568 Can you smile? 740 00:27:42,568 --> 00:27:43,382 Cheese. 741 00:27:43,382 --> 00:27:43,882 Cheese. 742 00:27:43,882 --> 00:27:44,970 Cheese. 743 00:27:44,970 --> 00:27:46,831 Go cheeseburger. 744 00:27:46,831 --> 00:27:48,360 Cheeseburger. 745 00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:49,190 Cheeseburger. 746 00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:54,160 My family is 100% supportive of me, and my goals, 747 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,670 and my love of music. 748 00:27:55,670 --> 00:27:57,880 I met my wife here. 749 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,270 I was a waitress. 750 00:27:59,270 --> 00:28:01,000 And he was, of course, the sound guy. 751 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,580 And I had a big crush on him. 752 00:28:04,580 --> 00:28:07,780 Everyone went and told him, and the rest was history. 753 00:28:11,700 --> 00:28:16,140 After Gibson was born, I took an inventory of what I was doing 754 00:28:16,140 --> 00:28:17,600 and where things were going. 755 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,530 And although I love what I do now, 756 00:28:19,530 --> 00:28:21,970 it's not the most stable thing in the world. 757 00:28:21,970 --> 00:28:25,080 He's been here for about 10 years now 758 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:30,410 working here, so 10 long, miserable years with him. 759 00:28:30,410 --> 00:28:33,230 [LAUGHING] 760 00:28:33,230 --> 00:28:35,830 Daddy's not so tight anymore. 761 00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:39,020 It's in there somewhere though. 762 00:28:39,020 --> 00:28:43,700 But I'm going back to school for computer networking. 763 00:28:43,700 --> 00:28:46,340 I didn't really know exactly what area of computers 764 00:28:46,340 --> 00:28:47,250 I wanted to get into. 765 00:28:47,250 --> 00:28:50,710 I just knew that I wanted to get more training in the computer 766 00:28:50,710 --> 00:28:52,620 industry. 767 00:28:52,620 --> 00:28:55,294 It's also an exciting prospect to be 768 00:28:55,294 --> 00:28:56,960 able to get into something a little more 769 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:05,685 stable, a little more structured so that I could spend more time 770 00:29:05,685 --> 00:29:08,690 being the normal dad, I guess. 771 00:29:08,690 --> 00:29:11,330 I just like the idea of him getting in there 772 00:29:11,330 --> 00:29:14,270 and playing more now, picking up his bass again 773 00:29:14,270 --> 00:29:15,810 instead of it just sitting there, 774 00:29:15,810 --> 00:29:17,630 because I know he enjoys it. 775 00:29:17,630 --> 00:29:20,356 That's going to be the hardest part for me is coming up 776 00:29:20,356 --> 00:29:24,280 with the time between school, work, being a dad, 777 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,950 spending time rehearsing songs. 778 00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:30,320 It's going to be tough, but I'm confident that I can find 779 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,390 the time that I need to do it. 780 00:29:32,390 --> 00:29:36,230 [MUSIC - ROXY BLUE, "WASTED TIME"] 781 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,620 We haven't seen Jeff since 1987. 782 00:29:42,620 --> 00:29:46,160 This is really to reunite with him 783 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,649 and just to get to know him again. 784 00:29:47,649 --> 00:29:49,690 And so we're going to go there to North Carolina, 785 00:29:49,690 --> 00:29:52,120 and we're going to reintroduce this idea, 786 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,980 lay out the framework of what the plan is, 787 00:29:53,980 --> 00:29:58,806 and see if he isn't willing to do that. 788 00:29:58,806 --> 00:30:00,800 Are you in a band, sir? 789 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:01,460 Trying. 790 00:30:01,460 --> 00:30:01,960 OK. 791 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:02,560 I thought so. 792 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:03,676 You've got the look. 793 00:30:03,676 --> 00:30:04,650 All right. 794 00:30:04,650 --> 00:30:06,580 Rock on. 795 00:30:06,580 --> 00:30:09,072 Our job in all of this is to talk them 796 00:30:09,072 --> 00:30:11,030 into doing something they're never going to get 797 00:30:11,030 --> 00:30:13,820 an opportunity to do again. 798 00:30:13,820 --> 00:30:14,320 24-- 799 00:30:17,210 --> 00:30:17,760 Something. 800 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:18,260 95. 801 00:30:23,370 --> 00:30:24,350 Is that it? 802 00:30:24,350 --> 00:30:24,850 Yeah. 803 00:30:24,850 --> 00:30:25,430 [INAUDIBLE] 804 00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:25,930 Sweet. 805 00:30:28,912 --> 00:30:29,906 [LAUGHING] 806 00:30:29,906 --> 00:30:30,900 [EXAGGERATED GASPING] 807 00:30:32,888 --> 00:30:33,390 McClure! 808 00:30:33,390 --> 00:30:34,330 Jeff B. Heinz 809 00:30:34,330 --> 00:30:34,830 Kruger! 810 00:30:34,830 --> 00:30:35,370 What's going Kyle? 811 00:30:35,370 --> 00:30:36,882 Steve man, how you doing, buddy? 812 00:30:36,882 --> 00:30:37,548 Good to see you. 813 00:30:37,548 --> 00:30:38,590 Been a long time. 814 00:30:38,590 --> 00:30:39,410 Hello, brother. 815 00:30:39,410 --> 00:30:40,665 Long time. 816 00:30:40,665 --> 00:30:41,360 How y'all doing? 817 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:42,980 I'm doing good. 818 00:30:42,980 --> 00:30:44,301 20 however years later? 819 00:30:44,301 --> 00:30:44,800 20-- 820 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:45,560 [MUMBLING] 821 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,880 26-- 27. 822 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,540 Do you remember how we even all got together and where? 823 00:30:51,540 --> 00:30:53,750 I wanted to say it was just like-- 824 00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:56,180 and I can't remember obviously the name of the garages 825 00:30:56,180 --> 00:30:58,263 or anything like that, but there was that garage-- 826 00:30:58,263 --> 00:30:59,570 Clearwater Self Storage. 827 00:30:59,570 --> 00:31:00,940 Clearwater Self Storage, yes. 828 00:31:00,940 --> 00:31:02,660 Was it Clearwater Self Storage? 829 00:31:02,660 --> 00:31:04,160 It probably changed names. 830 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,854 This is where Tryxx was born. 831 00:31:05,854 --> 00:31:07,246 Why are you doing that? 832 00:31:07,246 --> 00:31:08,174 It's stupid. 833 00:31:08,174 --> 00:31:10,160 Right now, I'm going take this time out 834 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,990 to introduce you to Tryxx. 835 00:31:12,990 --> 00:31:16,570 In back with me on the drum kits, 836 00:31:16,570 --> 00:31:21,363 the adolescent mad man himself, Mr. Jeff B. Heinz. 837 00:31:21,363 --> 00:31:24,261 [CHEERING] 838 00:31:27,650 --> 00:31:28,172 Yeah! 839 00:31:28,172 --> 00:31:30,130 We didn't know it was being filmed at the time. 840 00:31:30,130 --> 00:31:31,610 Jeff B. Heinz. 841 00:31:31,610 --> 00:31:34,742 The best I ever was right there. 842 00:31:34,742 --> 00:31:35,670 Sit down. 843 00:31:35,670 --> 00:31:36,170 Yeah! 844 00:31:36,170 --> 00:31:36,790 It was great. 845 00:31:36,790 --> 00:31:38,480 It was a good show. 846 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,402 Everybody dressed up. 847 00:31:39,402 --> 00:31:40,110 There was lights. 848 00:31:40,110 --> 00:31:41,885 There was big PA, and it was the thunder. 849 00:31:41,885 --> 00:31:43,010 I thought it was fun. 850 00:31:43,010 --> 00:31:44,510 I thought that we were working hard, 851 00:31:44,510 --> 00:31:46,350 and we were getting better, and you never 852 00:31:46,350 --> 00:31:48,134 know where it could have gone. 853 00:31:48,134 --> 00:31:52,110 [MUSIC - NO SYMPATHY, "LIVING YOUNG"] 854 00:31:56,590 --> 00:32:00,120 This will be the high point of the trip, actually. 855 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,020 OptiStok is as a company that I have started. 856 00:32:03,020 --> 00:32:05,120 I'm an entrepreneur, and I've been working on it 857 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,030 for over a year and a half. 858 00:32:08,030 --> 00:32:10,570 This is the most challenging time in my life, period. 859 00:32:13,150 --> 00:32:14,530 I'm all in. 860 00:32:14,530 --> 00:32:18,320 I'm all in terms of savings, in terms of my IRA, 861 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,430 in terms of everything I've ever saved in my entire life. 862 00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:22,320 It's all in. 863 00:32:26,620 --> 00:32:29,870 If we can make this work, is it something 864 00:32:29,870 --> 00:32:32,770 to dabble in, something to consider? 865 00:32:32,770 --> 00:32:34,986 With him in the middle of a business that's 866 00:32:34,986 --> 00:32:37,110 been a long haul and he's coming towards the end of 867 00:32:37,110 --> 00:32:40,770 whether it's really going to happen or not, 868 00:32:40,770 --> 00:32:43,250 timing couldn't be worse. 869 00:32:43,250 --> 00:32:45,620 Just to be honest, it couldn't be worse. 870 00:32:45,620 --> 00:32:46,180 It's tough. 871 00:32:46,180 --> 00:32:51,170 It's a very tough time to making that work, 872 00:32:51,170 --> 00:32:54,690 keeping my wife calm somehow and happy 873 00:32:54,690 --> 00:32:57,870 when she's really overwhelmed by the situation that we're in. 874 00:33:01,670 --> 00:33:05,790 You think his family would be supportive of that? 875 00:33:05,790 --> 00:33:07,720 This side of his family. 876 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,170 As his brother, I would be very supportive. 877 00:33:11,170 --> 00:33:12,250 I don't know. 878 00:33:12,250 --> 00:33:13,770 It's a tough situation. 879 00:33:13,770 --> 00:33:15,270 But like I said, I explained to her. 880 00:33:15,270 --> 00:33:17,580 I said hey, these guys are chasing 881 00:33:17,580 --> 00:33:21,570 what they want to do in life, and they're going for it. 882 00:33:21,570 --> 00:33:25,539 I respect that, and I'm going to try to help them out. 883 00:33:25,539 --> 00:33:26,580 He's never gonna do this. 884 00:33:26,580 --> 00:33:27,890 Nope. 885 00:33:27,890 --> 00:33:33,100 Actually, and it's not-- it has nothing to do with him. 886 00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:35,990 Well, it has to do with his time. 887 00:33:35,990 --> 00:33:40,670 Dude, I don't hear that. 888 00:33:40,670 --> 00:33:42,144 I hear something else. 889 00:33:42,144 --> 00:33:43,560 That guy wants to play drums, man. 890 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:44,809 I can tell you that right now. 891 00:33:44,809 --> 00:33:47,490 He kept using the word, I'll help you guys out. 892 00:33:47,490 --> 00:33:48,620 What does that mean? 893 00:33:48,620 --> 00:33:51,145 Because yesterday, he was using the we. 894 00:33:51,145 --> 00:33:53,840 So is like the end game of what we're doing here 895 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,420 is are we going to get together and play some gig? 896 00:33:56,420 --> 00:33:59,780 Are we going to play the Tryxx -- 897 00:33:59,780 --> 00:34:02,720 Is that what we're going for here? 898 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,510 It went from we to I'll support you in any way I can. 899 00:34:06,510 --> 00:34:09,840 Basically, I can't commit anything 900 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,582 to you, which is fine, because the commitment part is hard 901 00:34:12,582 --> 00:34:15,206 when we don't really know where we're at and where we're going. 902 00:34:15,206 --> 00:34:19,020 But dude, I don't think it's a lack of wanting to do it. 903 00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:26,060 We're all living on piano wires, and so any discussion 904 00:34:26,060 --> 00:34:28,440 of something I'm going to do frivolous 905 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,730 in the future like that just could set her off. 906 00:34:30,730 --> 00:34:32,550 He didn't tell her the whole thing. 907 00:34:32,550 --> 00:34:33,139 Yeah. 908 00:34:33,139 --> 00:34:34,230 He knows what we're doing. 909 00:34:34,230 --> 00:34:35,030 He's holding back. 910 00:34:35,030 --> 00:34:37,450 He did not tell her what we were doing. 911 00:34:37,450 --> 00:34:39,449 I was hoping, like, him just getting back behind 912 00:34:39,449 --> 00:34:42,250 that kit would spark some interest and stuff. 913 00:34:42,250 --> 00:34:48,186 The fear that he has in his life overrides all of that. 914 00:34:48,186 --> 00:34:52,025 [SLOW MOTION DRUM POUNDING] 915 00:34:53,949 --> 00:34:55,360 Don't ever say I should've. 916 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,610 How many people get the opportunity to go back in time 917 00:34:57,610 --> 00:34:58,610 and do it again? 918 00:34:58,610 --> 00:35:00,800 It really all depends on whether or not 919 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,490 you love doing what you're doing. 920 00:35:03,490 --> 00:35:05,090 No should've, could have's. 921 00:35:05,090 --> 00:35:08,359 Like do it, follow it, follow you heart, you'll be good. 922 00:35:08,359 --> 00:35:10,650 If you don't pursue this dream, give it all you've got, 923 00:35:10,650 --> 00:35:12,190 and have fun with it, and enjoy it, 924 00:35:12,190 --> 00:35:15,655 and it's building experience for you, then it's all for nothing. 925 00:35:15,655 --> 00:35:17,190 Of course it's a good idea. 926 00:35:17,190 --> 00:35:17,690 Yeah. 927 00:35:17,690 --> 00:35:18,189 You bet. 928 00:35:18,189 --> 00:35:20,430 It's the most important thing in your life. 929 00:35:20,430 --> 00:35:21,810 Don't take it too seriously. 930 00:35:21,810 --> 00:35:22,310 Yeah. 931 00:35:22,310 --> 00:35:23,100 That's what I was thinking. 932 00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:25,035 And then leave me with a smile on your face. 933 00:35:25,035 --> 00:35:25,945 You got the attitude. 934 00:35:25,945 --> 00:35:26,985 You've got the hunger. 935 00:35:26,985 --> 00:35:27,860 You've got the drive. 936 00:35:27,860 --> 00:35:30,690 You guys will be fine, just fine. 937 00:35:30,690 --> 00:35:33,160 If you guys want to basically put your band back together, 938 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:39,300 it should be for this reason, and this reason only. 939 00:35:39,300 --> 00:35:41,180 Make sure you're doing it with friends, 940 00:35:41,180 --> 00:35:42,450 and you're doing it for fun. 941 00:35:42,450 --> 00:35:43,430 Yeah. 942 00:35:43,430 --> 00:35:44,910 Fun, exactly. 943 00:35:44,910 --> 00:35:48,020 Life could be a bitch if you don't have a dream. 944 00:35:48,020 --> 00:35:50,520 If you still have the passion and the fire for the music, 945 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,020 you guys are still friends, you felt 946 00:35:52,020 --> 00:35:55,263 like you had something special back then, then why not? 947 00:35:55,263 --> 00:35:57,054 You have do it, because it's in your heart. 948 00:35:57,054 --> 00:35:58,210 It's in your blood. 949 00:35:58,210 --> 00:35:59,520 It's what you're meant to do. 950 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,950 But the biggest thing is man, don't ever 951 00:36:01,950 --> 00:36:03,925 give up on your dreams man, because if you do, 952 00:36:03,925 --> 00:36:06,508 you're going to kick yourself in the butt one day and go, god. 953 00:36:06,508 --> 00:36:08,763 Why didn't I just try, at least? 954 00:36:08,763 --> 00:36:11,228 [PHONE RINGING] 955 00:36:16,158 --> 00:36:17,160 Hello? 956 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,200 Gordon. 957 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,700 Hey, what's going on guys? 958 00:36:19,700 --> 00:36:22,220 We would love to play some music with you. 959 00:36:22,220 --> 00:36:23,310 I am chomping at the bit. 960 00:36:23,310 --> 00:36:25,230 That's what it comes down to. 961 00:36:25,230 --> 00:36:27,750 It's like man, we want to give it another shot, 962 00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:29,720 and we want to do with the original guys, 963 00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:32,700 so it wouldn't be the same. 964 00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:37,050 When are you going to get the chance to do this again? 965 00:36:37,050 --> 00:36:38,495 To do this? 966 00:36:38,495 --> 00:36:39,980 I'm not. 967 00:36:39,980 --> 00:36:44,240 It wasn't really a great time in my life. 968 00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:46,472 It's just something I'd just rather not relive. 969 00:36:46,472 --> 00:36:48,680 I just really don't want to be involved with anything 970 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,770 I've done in the past. 971 00:36:50,770 --> 00:36:53,256 And I was like a fish out of water, 972 00:36:53,256 --> 00:36:55,506 and I think it would be the same thing all over again. 973 00:36:55,506 --> 00:36:57,990 Gordon plays Death Metal. 974 00:36:57,990 --> 00:37:00,120 He's in a band called Never To Arise, 975 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,465 and they just released their first record. 976 00:37:02,465 --> 00:37:05,860 [MUSIC - NEVER TO ARISE, "SNUFF FILM SUPERSTAR"] 977 00:37:22,660 --> 00:37:25,537 And if I do have a career in this going, which 978 00:37:25,537 --> 00:37:27,370 I don't know that I even do, because I'm not 979 00:37:27,370 --> 00:37:29,980 going to be that pretentious or egotistical to say that I do. 980 00:37:29,980 --> 00:37:33,820 But if I did, I could see this killing it. 981 00:37:33,820 --> 00:37:37,178 Where does it fall in the priority level? 982 00:37:37,178 --> 00:37:38,520 [SIGHS] 983 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,200 Where it has to. 984 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,217 Not where I'd like it. 985 00:37:41,217 --> 00:37:43,050 To be honest, I'd like to be able to give it 986 00:37:43,050 --> 00:37:44,990 a much higher priority. 987 00:37:44,990 --> 00:37:46,876 But realistically, I can't. 988 00:37:46,876 --> 00:37:48,990 I've got other priorities now. 989 00:37:48,990 --> 00:37:52,620 This is probably not going to be on the discussion table. 990 00:37:52,620 --> 00:37:54,910 I can't even discuss this with my family right now. 991 00:37:54,910 --> 00:37:56,770 I won't discuss this with my family. 992 00:37:56,770 --> 00:37:58,650 I don't want to mislead you on anything, 993 00:37:58,650 --> 00:38:03,720 or string you along on something that my heart's just not into. 994 00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:04,570 Mhm. 995 00:38:04,570 --> 00:38:08,670 I can't let it inconvenience my family at all. 996 00:38:08,670 --> 00:38:09,170 I can't. 997 00:38:09,170 --> 00:38:11,490 So I wish you guys all the success in the world 998 00:38:11,490 --> 00:38:16,530 and everything, and I can understand why you're doing it, 999 00:38:16,530 --> 00:38:21,410 but I just don't have that feeling myself to do it. 1000 00:38:21,410 --> 00:38:22,890 Can I make it work? 1001 00:38:22,890 --> 00:38:23,780 No. 1002 00:38:23,780 --> 00:38:26,187 That's your guys' job. 1003 00:38:26,187 --> 00:38:27,770 It was good hanging out with you, man. 1004 00:38:27,770 --> 00:38:28,200 Yeah. 1005 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,090 Yeah, it's been great, man. 1006 00:38:29,090 --> 00:38:30,980 I really appreciate you guys taking the time to fly out 1007 00:38:30,980 --> 00:38:31,910 for me and everything. 1008 00:38:31,910 --> 00:38:32,690 All right, dude. 1009 00:38:32,690 --> 00:38:33,696 We'll talk to you. 1010 00:38:33,696 --> 00:38:34,810 All right, man. 1011 00:38:34,810 --> 00:38:35,310 See you. 1012 00:38:35,310 --> 00:38:35,810 All right. 1013 00:38:35,810 --> 00:38:36,570 Take care, guys. 1014 00:38:36,570 --> 00:38:37,468 Bye bye. 1015 00:38:37,468 --> 00:38:39,420 Bye. 1016 00:38:39,420 --> 00:38:39,921 Told you. 1017 00:38:39,921 --> 00:38:40,961 You knew that was coming. 1018 00:38:40,961 --> 00:38:42,700 I saw it coming a mile a fucking away. 1019 00:38:42,700 --> 00:38:43,410 All right. 1020 00:38:43,410 --> 00:38:44,452 Gordon says no, screw it. 1021 00:38:44,452 --> 00:38:45,368 I don't want to do it. 1022 00:38:45,368 --> 00:38:46,288 Then we're done. 1023 00:38:46,288 --> 00:38:48,480 No, we're not done. 1024 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,190 That's it. 1025 00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:51,190 He says no, and the whole thing is just off the table? 1026 00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:52,510 Who are we going to get to play? 1027 00:38:52,510 --> 00:38:54,843 Can't he do his metal on the side and play with you guys 1028 00:38:54,843 --> 00:38:55,420 too? 1029 00:38:55,420 --> 00:38:57,610 Oh, he's thinking about he's going to look bad doing it? 1030 00:38:57,610 --> 00:38:59,620 If I were you, if you had that situation that somebody 1031 00:38:59,620 --> 00:39:01,203 was in your band and they felt like it 1032 00:39:01,203 --> 00:39:04,105 was embarrassing to be in your band, 1033 00:39:04,105 --> 00:39:05,230 I would take it personally. 1034 00:39:05,230 --> 00:39:06,750 I'd be like go. 1035 00:39:06,750 --> 00:39:07,250 Get. 1036 00:39:07,250 --> 00:39:08,166 We need somebody else. 1037 00:39:08,166 --> 00:39:11,300 As long as you guys are all in, there 1038 00:39:11,300 --> 00:39:13,620 can't be anybody that's like well, I don't know. 1039 00:39:13,620 --> 00:39:15,020 I'm on the fence. 1040 00:39:15,020 --> 00:39:18,000 Don't get wrapped up in the one guy who doesn't want to do it. 1041 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,790 If they don't want to play like you 1042 00:39:19,790 --> 00:39:21,920 guys want to play, then why do it? 1043 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,100 If you have a history with somebody 1044 00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:27,090 that's very influential, and very artistic, 1045 00:39:27,090 --> 00:39:32,340 and has been a major part of what you do, when they're gone, 1046 00:39:32,340 --> 00:39:34,100 there is no way to replace them. 1047 00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:37,180 You have to just carry on, and you're a different band. 1048 00:39:37,180 --> 00:39:39,850 You're a different band dynamic at that point. 1049 00:39:39,850 --> 00:39:43,490 The bottom line is if everybody says no to it 1050 00:39:43,490 --> 00:39:47,220 or you can't get everybody to agree, you've lost nothing. 1051 00:39:47,220 --> 00:39:49,830 You're exactly where you're at now. 1052 00:39:49,830 --> 00:39:51,750 We started this thing, and who would 1053 00:39:51,750 --> 00:39:55,920 have thought how difficult it would be just to get 1054 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,374 five guys back together again? 1055 00:39:57,374 --> 00:39:59,290 Everybody's got lives to live, and everybody's 1056 00:39:59,290 --> 00:40:02,210 got money to make, and bills to pay, and I get that. 1057 00:40:02,210 --> 00:40:04,640 But man, what if you put yourself in a position-- 1058 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,140 this is the reason why the band broke up in the first place. 1059 00:40:07,140 --> 00:40:09,110 It's the same, exact reason. 1060 00:40:09,110 --> 00:40:10,770 Life got in the way. 1061 00:40:10,770 --> 00:40:12,620 Realistically speaking, I've come 1062 00:40:12,620 --> 00:40:16,020 to the realization that this ain't going to happen, 1063 00:40:16,020 --> 00:40:17,950 at least the way we want it to happen. 1064 00:40:17,950 --> 00:40:20,160 Steve and I have reached the point 1065 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,580 where we need to move forward with something, 1066 00:40:22,580 --> 00:40:27,260 and if these guys, if their heart just isn't into doing it, 1067 00:40:27,260 --> 00:40:30,740 and we're having to do all the leg work to make it happen, 1068 00:40:30,740 --> 00:40:32,810 then we want to make something happen 1069 00:40:32,810 --> 00:40:36,150 that's on a more grand scale, and we 1070 00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:38,950 want to be able to play with people 1071 00:40:38,950 --> 00:40:42,250 who want to play first and foremost, 1072 00:40:42,250 --> 00:40:47,030 and then maybe make something happen out of it. 1073 00:40:47,030 --> 00:40:49,800 So I found a local guitar instructor, 1074 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,190 and this guy can shred. 1075 00:40:54,530 --> 00:40:56,320 So I'm about to take my first lesson 1076 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,422 in a quarter of a century. 1077 00:40:58,422 --> 00:40:59,630 It's going to be interesting. 1078 00:40:59,630 --> 00:41:02,010 Let's just hope I don't embarrass myself. 1079 00:41:02,010 --> 00:41:02,620 Pick it up. 1080 00:41:02,620 --> 00:41:03,330 Start playing. 1081 00:41:03,330 --> 00:41:04,742 Yeah. 1082 00:41:04,742 --> 00:41:06,450 Come on, Smoke On The Water or something. 1083 00:41:06,450 --> 00:41:08,325 I mentioned that I haven't picked up a guitar 1084 00:41:08,325 --> 00:41:10,850 in 20 years too, right? 1085 00:41:10,850 --> 00:41:12,950 So you suck right now. 1086 00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:14,420 But it's like riding a bike. 1087 00:41:14,420 --> 00:41:15,860 It's like riding a bicycle. 1088 00:41:15,860 --> 00:41:16,940 It's like riding a bike. 1089 00:41:16,940 --> 00:41:18,439 No, it is like riding a bike though. 1090 00:41:18,439 --> 00:41:20,120 It's like riding a bike, man. 1091 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,190 It's not like riding a bicycle. 1092 00:41:22,190 --> 00:41:24,090 [LAUGHING] 1093 00:41:24,090 --> 00:41:27,340 I don't think I'm at pure bottom beginner level. 1094 00:41:27,340 --> 00:41:28,797 Like I never picked up a guitar. 1095 00:41:28,797 --> 00:41:30,630 I remember some chords and things like that, 1096 00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:34,070 but I might be a little bit above that. 1097 00:41:34,070 --> 00:41:35,490 [GUITAR PLAYING] 1098 00:41:35,490 --> 00:41:35,990 Whoa. 1099 00:41:35,990 --> 00:41:36,770 Let's do this. 1100 00:41:36,770 --> 00:41:37,270 All right. 1101 00:41:37,270 --> 00:41:37,875 Let's do this. 1102 00:41:37,875 --> 00:41:38,375 All right. 1103 00:41:38,375 --> 00:41:40,040 Are you ready to sing? 1104 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:40,910 Yes. 1105 00:41:40,910 --> 00:41:42,875 It could serve you well to go to a vocal coach. 1106 00:41:42,875 --> 00:41:44,210 That's not a bad idea. 1107 00:41:44,210 --> 00:41:48,540 Let's start nice and simple, and then keep 1108 00:41:48,540 --> 00:41:50,520 pushing, and pushing, and pushing out 1109 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:51,600 of your comfort zone. 1110 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:56,410 Feet shoulder length apart, toes pointing straight ahead. 1111 00:41:56,410 --> 00:41:57,340 Shoulder length apart. 1112 00:41:57,340 --> 00:41:58,710 Hands out of your pockets. 1113 00:41:58,710 --> 00:42:00,184 Loosen up a little bit. 1114 00:42:00,184 --> 00:42:01,350 You've got to be loose, man. 1115 00:42:01,350 --> 00:42:04,560 You can't be all tight. 1116 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,470 We're going to start with the diaphragm. 1117 00:42:06,470 --> 00:42:10,547 As far as note values, do you understand 1118 00:42:10,547 --> 00:42:12,380 what whole notes, half notes, quarter notes, 1119 00:42:12,380 --> 00:42:15,070 stuff like that are? 1120 00:42:15,070 --> 00:42:16,780 It's been-- no, not really. 1121 00:42:16,780 --> 00:42:18,095 Take a deep breath. 1122 00:42:18,095 --> 00:42:21,260 Now, keep the rib cage out, but let the breath out. 1123 00:42:21,260 --> 00:42:23,911 Exhale while keeping the rib cage expanding. 1124 00:42:23,911 --> 00:42:26,857 [ELECTRIC GUITAR PLAYING] 1125 00:42:27,839 --> 00:42:29,723 I forgot where I'm at already. 1126 00:42:29,723 --> 00:42:32,670 [ELECTRIC GUITAR STRUMMING] 1127 00:42:32,670 --> 00:42:33,670 It's too many, isn't it? 1128 00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:34,360 No, that was right. 1129 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:34,860 OK. 1130 00:42:34,860 --> 00:42:37,800 1, 2, 3, and 4. 1131 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:38,540 And 4. 1132 00:42:38,540 --> 00:42:40,200 Extend your rib cage a little bit. 1133 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,015 Let some air out, and hit me some As. (YELLING) A, A, A, 1134 00:42:43,015 --> 00:42:43,515 Aiiiiiiyyy! 1135 00:42:46,868 --> 00:42:50,221 A, A, A, Ayyy. 1136 00:42:50,221 --> 00:42:50,939 It's raspy. 1137 00:42:50,939 --> 00:42:51,730 It's raspy. 1138 00:42:51,730 --> 00:42:52,230 No air. 1139 00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:53,220 You have too much air coming. 1140 00:42:53,220 --> 00:42:55,210 Practicing, this stuff, even the easy stuff, 1141 00:42:55,210 --> 00:42:56,920 getting them up as fast as you can, 1142 00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,470 every single one, along with the foot tapping 1143 00:43:00,470 --> 00:43:04,810 is going to be a huge benefit to improving as fast as you can 1144 00:43:04,810 --> 00:43:06,552 in the shortest amount of time. 1145 00:43:06,552 --> 00:43:09,504 1, 2, and 3, 4. 1146 00:43:09,504 --> 00:43:12,456 1, 2, 3. 1147 00:43:12,456 --> 00:43:15,408 1, 2, 3, 4. 1148 00:43:15,408 --> 00:43:18,860 1, 2, 3, 4. 1149 00:43:18,860 --> 00:43:20,033 A, A. 1150 00:43:20,033 --> 00:43:20,533 Yes. 1151 00:43:20,533 --> 00:43:22,988 A, A, Ayyy. 1152 00:43:22,988 --> 00:43:24,952 That's better already. 1153 00:43:24,952 --> 00:43:26,916 [STRUMMING] 1154 00:43:26,916 --> 00:43:31,335 A, A, A, Ayyyy. 1155 00:43:36,245 --> 00:43:37,370 Good, good. 1156 00:43:37,370 --> 00:43:38,295 Nailed that one. 1157 00:43:38,295 --> 00:43:40,430 And when you hear something like how did I do that 1158 00:43:40,430 --> 00:43:42,410 and you do it again, it's a matter of repetitive motion, 1159 00:43:42,410 --> 00:43:44,076 like a guitar player doing this, playing 1160 00:43:44,076 --> 00:43:45,260 the same solo every night. 1161 00:43:45,260 --> 00:43:47,287 You can repeat the things that work for you 1162 00:43:47,287 --> 00:43:48,870 and continue to put them in the place. 1163 00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:49,828 That's your ammunition. 1164 00:43:49,828 --> 00:43:52,220 That's your vocabulary, your vocal vocabulary. 1165 00:43:52,220 --> 00:43:55,890 And everything right now seems like you definitely 1166 00:43:55,890 --> 00:44:00,160 built some good foundation into your subconscious 1167 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,660 back in the '80s. 1168 00:44:01,660 --> 00:44:03,680 And it's still there, so that's good. 1169 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,711 So I think we're definitely on a good path. 1170 00:44:06,711 --> 00:44:07,210 All right. 1171 00:44:07,210 --> 00:44:09,086 So it's like riding a bike, right? 1172 00:44:09,086 --> 00:44:10,485 [LAUGHS] 1173 00:44:10,485 --> 00:44:11,860 I haven't ridden a bike in years. 1174 00:44:16,412 --> 00:44:17,749 What's up, man? 1175 00:44:17,749 --> 00:44:18,540 What's up, brother? 1176 00:44:18,540 --> 00:44:19,290 How are you doing? 1177 00:44:19,290 --> 00:44:20,290 Good man. 1178 00:44:20,290 --> 00:44:20,790 All right. 1179 00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:21,480 Good to see you. 1180 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,370 So Steve and I have worked really hard 1181 00:44:23,370 --> 00:44:25,250 over the last couple of years and have 1182 00:44:25,250 --> 00:44:27,020 decided that we're going to go ahead and move forward, 1183 00:44:27,020 --> 00:44:27,936 because you know what? 1184 00:44:27,936 --> 00:44:30,360 This is our freaking dream, and we're not 1185 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,380 going to hold back because we weren't 1186 00:44:34,380 --> 00:44:37,560 able to accomplish the sentimental part of what 1187 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,280 is that we wanted to do. 1188 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,320 Where that leaves us is that Steve and I are left 1189 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:47,010 with having to start over in that well, 1190 00:44:47,010 --> 00:44:49,130 we need to put a band together, first off. 1191 00:44:49,130 --> 00:44:51,280 We want to throw that out at you first 1192 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,520 off just to gauge the interest, something that we 1193 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,110 can work around schedules. 1194 00:44:55,110 --> 00:44:56,340 And again, it's a process. 1195 00:44:56,340 --> 00:44:57,680 It'll take us six months. 1196 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,990 And the minute you said XYZ was off the books playing live, 1197 00:45:00,990 --> 00:45:01,490 I'm like-- 1198 00:45:01,490 --> 00:45:03,470 Yeah. 1199 00:45:03,470 --> 00:45:04,869 He's around. 1200 00:45:04,869 --> 00:45:05,660 Opportunity knocks. 1201 00:45:05,660 --> 00:45:06,800 Answer the door. 1202 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,600 Are you there? 1203 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,540 Let's make this work, man. 1204 00:45:10,540 --> 00:45:11,660 Let's do it. 1205 00:45:11,660 --> 00:45:12,280 Rock and Roll. 1206 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:13,620 I dig you though, man. 1207 00:45:13,620 --> 00:45:14,430 That's why. 1208 00:45:14,430 --> 00:45:16,220 Right on, brother. 1209 00:45:16,220 --> 00:45:16,825 Cool. 1210 00:45:16,825 --> 00:45:17,170 Yeah. 1211 00:45:17,170 --> 00:45:17,740 It's going to be great. 1212 00:45:17,740 --> 00:45:18,600 Right on. 1213 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,911 Pretty much I'm completely available right now. 1214 00:45:20,911 --> 00:45:21,410 OK. 1215 00:45:21,410 --> 00:45:22,743 So whatever day is good for you. 1216 00:45:22,743 --> 00:45:25,420 I will work on this as often as you want to. 1217 00:45:25,420 --> 00:45:28,380 I'm going to put that in your court 1218 00:45:28,380 --> 00:45:30,570 only in saying that if we can get together 1219 00:45:30,570 --> 00:45:33,057 on the average of at least once a week. 1220 00:45:33,057 --> 00:45:33,990 [PHONE RINGING] 1221 00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:34,490 Hey. 1222 00:45:34,490 --> 00:45:35,220 This is Tony. 1223 00:45:35,220 --> 00:45:37,370 Leave a message, and I'll get back to you. 1224 00:45:37,370 --> 00:45:38,230 [BEEP] 1225 00:45:38,230 --> 00:45:39,720 Tony, it's Kyle. 1226 00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:41,070 Just checking in, man. 1227 00:45:41,070 --> 00:45:43,550 Steve is back from being out of town, 1228 00:45:43,550 --> 00:45:47,167 and we wanted to see what your availability was 1229 00:45:47,167 --> 00:45:49,750 looking like, because we want to start making some music, man. 1230 00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:51,950 [PHONE RINGING] 1231 00:45:51,950 --> 00:45:52,450 Hey. 1232 00:45:52,450 --> 00:45:53,190 This is Tony. 1233 00:45:53,190 --> 00:45:55,590 Leave a message, and I'll get back to you. 1234 00:45:55,590 --> 00:46:00,390 [PHONE RINGING] 1235 00:46:04,060 --> 00:46:04,560 Hey. 1236 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:05,110 This is Tony. 1237 00:46:05,110 --> 00:46:07,490 Leave a message, and I'll get back to you. 1238 00:46:07,490 --> 00:46:09,330 There's not a fucking person on this planet 1239 00:46:09,330 --> 00:46:11,500 who has any fucking sense of urgency 1240 00:46:11,500 --> 00:46:12,890 or gives a fuck what we're doing. 1241 00:46:12,890 --> 00:46:15,590 People who commit to doing something and then fucking 1242 00:46:15,590 --> 00:46:17,830 flake, and I've fucking had it. 1243 00:46:17,830 --> 00:46:21,800 This is a culmination of everybody from J.T., 1244 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,310 and Gordon, to all the way up the line. 1245 00:46:25,310 --> 00:46:30,290 People who said yes, but either haven't put forth 1246 00:46:30,290 --> 00:46:34,360 any effort or any support, or who just plain out flaked 1247 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,420 on us, and it's frustrating as hell. 1248 00:46:36,420 --> 00:46:38,300 I realize this isn't everybody's dream. 1249 00:46:38,300 --> 00:46:40,430 I get that. 1250 00:46:40,430 --> 00:46:43,491 But if I say I'm going to do something, I fucking do it. 1251 00:46:43,491 --> 00:46:43,990 Hi there. 1252 00:46:43,990 --> 00:46:45,692 This message is for Kyle Kruger. 1253 00:46:45,692 --> 00:46:47,150 This call is from a debt collector. 1254 00:46:47,150 --> 00:46:48,821 This call is from a debt collector. 1255 00:46:48,821 --> 00:46:51,320 If you would please contact this office as soon as possible. 1256 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,946 I'm calling to notify you that there will be two charges filed 1257 00:46:53,946 --> 00:46:55,070 against you in your county. 1258 00:46:55,070 --> 00:46:57,920 I've been out of work for 17 months. 1259 00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,850 I've got bills to pay, and I don't 1260 00:46:59,850 --> 00:47:02,970 know how I'm going to pay them. 1261 00:47:02,970 --> 00:47:04,930 Steve, you're selling your house. 1262 00:47:04,930 --> 00:47:05,590 Yeah. 1263 00:47:05,590 --> 00:47:07,465 This is a huge mid-life crisis. 1264 00:47:07,465 --> 00:47:09,900 Well, it's a mid-life challenge. 1265 00:47:09,900 --> 00:47:10,720 Quit all your jobs. 1266 00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:11,390 Yes. 1267 00:47:11,390 --> 00:47:13,950 Because you're not going to have time for the band 1268 00:47:13,950 --> 00:47:15,710 if you have a full time day gig. 1269 00:47:15,710 --> 00:47:17,760 So no, I'm just kidding. 1270 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,150 I wouldn't give up the day job. 1271 00:47:19,150 --> 00:47:20,290 I wouldn't do it. 1272 00:47:20,290 --> 00:47:22,042 We both quit our jobs last year. 1273 00:47:22,042 --> 00:47:23,250 You've given up your careers? 1274 00:47:23,250 --> 00:47:24,790 Everything. 1275 00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:26,245 So is that a good idea? 1276 00:47:26,245 --> 00:47:27,920 No. 1277 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:28,460 No. 1278 00:47:28,460 --> 00:47:29,960 Is this going to be your livelihood, 1279 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,230 or are you going to quit your day job, or what? 1280 00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:33,600 Already quit the day job. 1281 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:34,670 Too late for that? 1282 00:47:34,670 --> 00:47:35,290 Already quit the day job. 1283 00:47:35,290 --> 00:47:36,915 You already quit the day-- so it sounds 1284 00:47:36,915 --> 00:47:38,590 like it better be a good thing. 1285 00:47:38,590 --> 00:47:42,006 [MUSIC - ROYAL BLOOD w/ ALEX MASI, "BOYS GET TOUGH"] 1286 00:47:47,870 --> 00:47:52,000 I think it's crazy in the current financial environment 1287 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,480 this country's in to just up and leave your job. 1288 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:55,470 It's a huge risk. 1289 00:47:55,470 --> 00:47:56,720 It's all about sacrifice. 1290 00:47:56,720 --> 00:47:59,650 You've got to sacrifice, I mean, everything. 1291 00:47:59,650 --> 00:48:01,850 To pick up and stop what you're doing. 1292 00:48:01,850 --> 00:48:03,620 You guys are crazy motherfuckers, man. 1293 00:48:03,620 --> 00:48:05,350 I have been making money. 1294 00:48:05,350 --> 00:48:08,030 Not a lot, but I've been making enough to keep gas in the car. 1295 00:48:08,030 --> 00:48:08,920 Selling plasma? 1296 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:09,420 Yes. 1297 00:48:09,420 --> 00:48:10,045 How'd you know? 1298 00:48:10,045 --> 00:48:11,587 Are you serious? 1299 00:48:11,587 --> 00:48:12,295 How did you know? 1300 00:48:12,295 --> 00:48:13,570 You are not serious. 1301 00:48:13,570 --> 00:48:14,780 Well, I am. 1302 00:48:14,780 --> 00:48:17,120 Whoever said oh, yeah, chase your dreams, 1303 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,646 go for it didn't know how fucking expensive it is. 1304 00:48:20,646 --> 00:48:23,004 So this is where we're at right now. 1305 00:48:23,004 --> 00:48:24,295 This is where I'm at, at least. 1306 00:48:28,025 --> 00:48:32,490 [MUSIC - JAX, "GIVIN' MY HEART"] 1307 00:48:32,490 --> 00:48:35,230 I have a dream, and this is the reason why I'm doing this, 1308 00:48:35,230 --> 00:48:39,230 and that is to record with these guys, to make a full on record 1309 00:48:39,230 --> 00:48:41,476 and put it out there, and see who freaking salutes. 1310 00:48:44,250 --> 00:48:47,090 Now is the time to do it, because right around the corner 1311 00:48:47,090 --> 00:48:49,520 could be hip replacement surgery. 1312 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,520 If it's in your heart, and you know 1313 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,090 that there's nothing else you want 1314 00:48:54,090 --> 00:48:57,890 to do more than make music, then you should go for it. 1315 00:48:57,890 --> 00:49:00,625 Honestly, I'm not that excited about playing music yet, 1316 00:49:00,625 --> 00:49:02,650 and I know that's due to a lack of confidence 1317 00:49:02,650 --> 00:49:04,200 in my own abilities. 1318 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,110 If you go into it scared, I don't think it works. 1319 00:49:07,110 --> 00:49:08,426 Go for it. 1320 00:49:08,426 --> 00:49:09,800 Don't ask yourself any questions. 1321 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:10,810 There are no challenges. 1322 00:49:10,810 --> 00:49:12,480 Challenges are for losers. 1323 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,450 Have you all been a room together yet? 1324 00:49:15,450 --> 00:49:19,400 Hitting that first note sounds like it's a problem right now. 1325 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,240 How is it that-- let's see. 1326 00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:25,890 We've known each other since 1980. 1327 00:49:25,890 --> 00:49:30,615 We haven't played together since 1986 or '87. 1328 00:49:30,615 --> 00:49:32,740 How is it that we've never played any fucking music 1329 00:49:32,740 --> 00:49:34,950 together? 1330 00:49:34,950 --> 00:49:37,240 How is that? 1331 00:49:37,240 --> 00:49:38,688 Are we tuned the same? 1332 00:49:38,688 --> 00:49:42,592 [OUT OF TUNE GUITAR CHORDS] 1333 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,690 It's like the old times. 1334 00:49:47,690 --> 00:49:51,830 You haven't played in a while, and I 1335 00:49:51,830 --> 00:49:53,130 learned to play differently. 1336 00:49:53,130 --> 00:49:56,610 So this is going to be interesting 1337 00:49:56,610 --> 00:49:58,660 for me, at least, to see what kind of sound 1338 00:49:58,660 --> 00:50:01,270 we end up coming with. 1339 00:50:01,270 --> 00:50:04,460 I've got about 25, 26 things I'm working on. 1340 00:50:04,460 --> 00:50:07,000 And I haven't finished anything, and there's a reason 1341 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,350 for that, that I wanted to just run some ideas by you, 1342 00:50:10,350 --> 00:50:11,980 see what resonated with you. 1343 00:50:11,980 --> 00:50:15,480 (SINGING) Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. 1344 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,554 2, 3, 4. 1345 00:50:17,554 --> 00:50:19,470 [ELECTRIC GUITAR PLAYING - "THERE'S NO TIME"] 1346 00:50:19,470 --> 00:50:21,770 What you really have to concentrate on 1347 00:50:21,770 --> 00:50:25,567 is the music and make sure that you like the music that you're 1348 00:50:25,567 --> 00:50:27,900 playing, because if you don't like the music that you're 1349 00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:29,670 playing, you can't expect anybody else to like it, 1350 00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:31,310 because it's not going to be believable. 1351 00:50:31,310 --> 00:50:33,140 Well you're doing it for you, and that means 1352 00:50:33,140 --> 00:50:34,515 what's going to come out is going 1353 00:50:34,515 --> 00:50:36,015 to be the real deal, a real product. 1354 00:50:36,015 --> 00:50:36,514 Yeah. 1355 00:50:36,514 --> 00:50:39,150 Whether it's good or not anybody else isn't going to matter. 1356 00:50:39,150 --> 00:50:41,270 You guys do what you meant to finish. 1357 00:50:41,270 --> 00:50:42,130 Do what you love. 1358 00:50:42,130 --> 00:50:44,790 Don't do what you think people are going to love. 1359 00:50:44,790 --> 00:50:45,850 Do what you love. 1360 00:50:45,850 --> 00:50:48,430 Stay true to your heart. 1361 00:50:48,430 --> 00:50:53,840 Even though all of these ideas aren't fully realized, 1362 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,790 I feel really good about where they're going. 1363 00:50:55,790 --> 00:50:59,590 I'm in a place I haven't been in years creatively, 1364 00:50:59,590 --> 00:51:06,730 so I think it's just a matter of us getting on the same page. 1365 00:51:06,730 --> 00:51:09,860 1 2, 3, 4. 1366 00:51:09,860 --> 00:51:12,430 You have to write great songs. 1367 00:51:12,430 --> 00:51:14,460 It all starts with a great song. 1368 00:51:14,460 --> 00:51:15,460 You have to work for it. 1369 00:51:15,460 --> 00:51:17,580 You have to focus like a laser beam, 1370 00:51:17,580 --> 00:51:20,524 and it starts with the music. 1371 00:51:20,524 --> 00:51:27,270 Go to F. 1372 00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:27,770 Huh? 1373 00:51:27,770 --> 00:51:29,310 Going to go to D after F? 1374 00:51:29,310 --> 00:51:31,956 From an E to the G? 1375 00:51:31,956 --> 00:51:35,430 [ELECTRIC GUITAR PLAYING] 1376 00:51:35,430 --> 00:51:36,332 One more time. 1377 00:51:36,332 --> 00:51:37,685 Stay with the rhythm though. 1378 00:51:40,336 --> 00:51:41,510 God damn it! 1379 00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:44,810 You stopped playing in '87. 1380 00:51:44,810 --> 00:51:46,160 Doesn't matter, man. 1381 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:50,420 I considered myself at least holding decent rhythm back 1382 00:51:50,420 --> 00:51:52,435 then, so I can't even fucking do it now. 1383 00:51:52,435 --> 00:51:54,200 It just takes practice. 1384 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,990 That breaks a lot of people, is those struggling 1385 00:51:56,990 --> 00:51:59,000 periods, because a lot of people are like fuck, 1386 00:51:59,000 --> 00:51:59,990 this is not worth it. 1387 00:52:02,900 --> 00:52:04,830 Slow it down a little bit. 1388 00:52:04,830 --> 00:52:05,330 Yeah. 1389 00:52:05,330 --> 00:52:08,170 This whole process has suddenly become really frustrating, 1390 00:52:08,170 --> 00:52:14,360 and it's difficult for me to play right now. 1391 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:19,310 If you believe in you, they, meaning the public, 1392 00:52:19,310 --> 00:52:20,470 will believe in you. 1393 00:52:20,470 --> 00:52:24,499 But it's all going to start with one individual-- you. 1394 00:52:24,499 --> 00:52:27,040 Do it because you mean it, and get out there, and show people 1395 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,060 you mean it, and they'll buy that. 1396 00:52:29,060 --> 00:52:31,210 My abilities back then obviously weren't 1397 00:52:31,210 --> 00:52:32,450 anything to write home about. 1398 00:52:32,450 --> 00:52:35,458 So I'm having a tough time of it right now. 1399 00:52:37,944 --> 00:52:39,860 But the problem is a lot of guys get up there. 1400 00:52:39,860 --> 00:52:42,390 And they become frustrated, because they can't play the way 1401 00:52:42,390 --> 00:52:43,580 that they used to play. 1402 00:52:43,580 --> 00:52:47,210 And then now it becomes more of they're bummed out. 1403 00:52:47,210 --> 00:52:50,140 They're like fuck, I used to throw down hard, and now, 1404 00:52:50,140 --> 00:52:50,660 I can't. 1405 00:52:50,660 --> 00:52:53,660 So it takes the fun out of it for them, 1406 00:52:53,660 --> 00:52:56,210 and that leads them not wanting to practice more. 1407 00:52:56,210 --> 00:52:58,232 It's just like fuck, it's not fun. 1408 00:52:58,232 --> 00:53:00,690 Now you don't know where to go from there, because we never 1409 00:53:00,690 --> 00:53:01,720 really got that far. 1410 00:53:01,720 --> 00:53:03,090 You better really want it, because you're 1411 00:53:03,090 --> 00:53:04,160 going to be challenged. 1412 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,160 You better fucking look at yourself in the mirror and say, 1413 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,190 do you really want this? 1414 00:53:07,190 --> 00:53:09,270 Because it's going to come at you. 1415 00:53:09,270 --> 00:53:12,505 [MUSIC - WITCH, "DAMNATION"] 1416 00:53:17,355 --> 00:53:20,880 Well, after we interviewed Ron Keel, we stayed in touch, 1417 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,310 became good friends. 1418 00:53:22,310 --> 00:53:26,110 He invited me on stage with him at Monsters of Rock Cruise. 1419 00:53:26,110 --> 00:53:28,852 And after that, he asked me to sing on his record. 1420 00:53:28,852 --> 00:53:29,676 (ON PHONE) Yes, hi. 1421 00:53:29,676 --> 00:53:30,265 This is Ron. 1422 00:53:30,265 --> 00:53:30,765 Hey Ron. 1423 00:53:30,765 --> 00:53:32,582 It's Kyle and Steve. 1424 00:53:32,582 --> 00:53:34,028 (ON PHONE) Hello, Kyle and Steve. 1425 00:53:34,028 --> 00:53:35,444 Welcome to Las Vegas! 1426 00:53:35,444 --> 00:53:37,402 [MUSIC - ALLEYCAT SCRATCH, "LOVE SICK JUNKIE"] 1427 00:53:45,610 --> 00:53:48,380 I guess the idea is to come in, and I'm 1428 00:53:48,380 --> 00:53:50,340 going to do some stuff with you? 1429 00:53:50,340 --> 00:53:53,090 (ON PHONE) I'm not as familiar enough 1430 00:53:53,090 --> 00:53:55,778 with your voice, your range, your tone. 1431 00:53:55,778 --> 00:53:58,748 You've got all of that to be able to assign 1432 00:53:58,748 --> 00:54:00,367 you a particular part. 1433 00:54:00,367 --> 00:54:02,700 I'll just be there, and you just plug me in and say hey, 1434 00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:03,534 can you do this? 1435 00:54:03,534 --> 00:54:04,200 And I'll try it. 1436 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:05,215 And if I can, I can. 1437 00:54:05,215 --> 00:54:08,861 If I can't, then we'll find something that works. 1438 00:54:08,861 --> 00:54:11,360 I certainly hope it goes a lot better than that voice lesson 1439 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:12,936 that we did a while back. 1440 00:54:12,936 --> 00:54:14,310 Your stomach's going to be tight. 1441 00:54:14,310 --> 00:54:15,420 You're going to have to do some crunches, 1442 00:54:15,420 --> 00:54:16,856 but you've got be able to-- 1443 00:54:16,856 --> 00:54:19,940 What makes you think I don't do crunches already? 1444 00:54:19,940 --> 00:54:20,700 I'm just saying. 1445 00:54:20,700 --> 00:54:22,408 What makes you think I don't do crunches? 1446 00:54:22,408 --> 00:54:24,408 I'm not talking about Captain Crunches. 1447 00:54:24,408 --> 00:54:26,830 [LAUGHTER] 1448 00:54:26,830 --> 00:54:31,477 I want him to contribute something in a significant way 1449 00:54:31,477 --> 00:54:32,060 to the record. 1450 00:54:32,060 --> 00:54:33,970 I want something that he can be proud of, something 1451 00:54:33,970 --> 00:54:36,000 that he's going to be able to listen to and say, I did that. 1452 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,499 I don't have to prove anything to anybody, because I haven't 1453 00:54:38,499 --> 00:54:40,060 been doing this for 25 years. 1454 00:54:40,060 --> 00:54:43,090 So if I go in there, and I'm moderately OK, 1455 00:54:43,090 --> 00:54:44,430 I'll be happy with that. 1456 00:54:44,430 --> 00:54:46,980 We're going to do a song called "Long Gone Bad," 1457 00:54:46,980 --> 00:54:49,360 and we're going to do a unison lead vocal 1458 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,530 in the chorus with Ron Keel, Paul Shortino, and Kyle Kruger. 1459 00:54:52,530 --> 00:54:55,560 (SINGING) Long gone bad, too far too fast. 1460 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,470 Ain't no use living in the past. 1461 00:54:58,470 --> 00:55:01,470 I've already blown every chance I had. 1462 00:55:01,470 --> 00:55:04,860 Long gone bad. 1463 00:55:04,860 --> 00:55:06,120 Just count us in like you did. 1464 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,414 That's really cool, because we don't know where we're at. 1465 00:55:09,414 --> 00:55:11,230 Ain't that the truth? 1466 00:55:11,230 --> 00:55:13,820 Me in between Shortino and Keel? 1467 00:55:13,820 --> 00:55:15,290 Are you fucking kidding me? 1468 00:55:15,290 --> 00:55:18,330 (SINGING) I've already blown every chance I had. 1469 00:55:18,330 --> 00:55:21,560 Long gone bad. 1470 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:22,392 Again. 1471 00:55:22,392 --> 00:55:23,600 It's getting better. 1472 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,390 (SINGING) Long gone bad. 1473 00:55:25,390 --> 00:55:27,234 Long gone bad. 1474 00:55:27,234 --> 00:55:28,525 The melody's got to be precise. 1475 00:55:28,525 --> 00:55:31,270 Long gone bad too far too fast. 1476 00:55:31,270 --> 00:55:33,997 Ain't no use living in the past. 1477 00:55:33,997 --> 00:55:36,455 Let's give Kyle a shot at doing this by himself, all right? 1478 00:55:36,455 --> 00:55:39,280 (SINGING) Long gone bad too far too fast. 1479 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,255 Ain't no use living-- Sorry. 1480 00:55:41,255 --> 00:55:45,730 (SINGING) Already blown every chance I had. 1481 00:55:45,730 --> 00:55:46,730 Don't read it. 1482 00:55:46,730 --> 00:55:47,480 Sell it. 1483 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,064 (SINGING) I've already blown it-- god, 1484 00:55:49,064 --> 00:55:51,188 I keep wanting to stretch that out for some reason. 1485 00:55:51,188 --> 00:55:52,160 Life is over, man. 1486 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:53,250 Everything fucking sucks. 1487 00:55:53,250 --> 00:55:55,507 I've already blown every chance I had! 1488 00:55:55,507 --> 00:55:56,910 Long gone bad. 1489 00:55:56,910 --> 00:55:57,450 Fuck this! 1490 00:55:57,450 --> 00:55:58,491 Just give him one second. 1491 00:55:58,491 --> 00:55:59,060 Come on. 1492 00:55:59,060 --> 00:55:59,710 Oh, get down. 1493 00:55:59,710 --> 00:56:01,180 It's the emphasis. 1494 00:56:01,180 --> 00:56:06,230 Oh that there that's just the music Just music. 1495 00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:07,290 Really? 1496 00:56:07,290 --> 00:56:07,870 Drink that. 1497 00:56:07,870 --> 00:56:08,150 No, I'm good. 1498 00:56:08,150 --> 00:56:08,700 I'm good. 1499 00:56:08,700 --> 00:56:08,990 Ah. 1500 00:56:08,990 --> 00:56:09,611 I'm good, man. 1501 00:56:09,611 --> 00:56:10,110 Drink this! 1502 00:56:10,110 --> 00:56:11,693 No, it's just-- (SINGING) I've already 1503 00:56:11,693 --> 00:56:13,520 blown every chance I had. 1504 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,700 Long gone bad. 1505 00:56:15,700 --> 00:56:16,380 Almost. 1506 00:56:16,380 --> 00:56:19,050 (SINGING) Long gone bad too far, too fast. 1507 00:56:19,050 --> 00:56:21,920 Ain't no use living in the past. 1508 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,750 I've already blown every chance I had. 1509 00:56:24,750 --> 00:56:27,654 Long gone bad. 1510 00:56:27,654 --> 00:56:29,745 That sounded good. 1511 00:56:29,745 --> 00:56:30,620 That did sound great. 1512 00:56:30,620 --> 00:56:32,860 Can I hear that back on the phones, please? 1513 00:56:32,860 --> 00:56:34,360 (SINGING) Long gone bad. 1514 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:35,860 Oh, yeah. 1515 00:56:35,860 --> 00:56:36,860 Oh, yeah. 1516 00:56:36,860 --> 00:56:38,312 Oh, yeah. 1517 00:56:38,312 --> 00:56:39,764 Cool. 1518 00:56:39,764 --> 00:56:42,380 For a song you've never heard, and just jumping into it. 1519 00:56:42,380 --> 00:56:44,422 Now we're really going to start working. 1520 00:56:47,844 --> 00:56:49,760 He gave me a track, and I've been studying it, 1521 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,080 and I came up with my own part. 1522 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,080 And I told him about it. 1523 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:55,100 He said he was cool with that. 1524 00:56:55,100 --> 00:56:56,100 We'll see how it works. 1525 00:56:56,100 --> 00:56:59,726 (SINGING) Evil, wicked, mean, and nasty. 1526 00:56:59,726 --> 00:57:01,640 What do you got going for me, Kyle? 1527 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:02,434 What have I got? 1528 00:57:02,434 --> 00:57:04,810 I want to be the devil in this. 1529 00:57:04,810 --> 00:57:07,286 I want to be the wicked, so the low-- 1530 00:57:07,286 --> 00:57:08,600 Grr. 1531 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:09,278 Let's play it. 1532 00:57:09,278 --> 00:57:10,471 Play it. 1533 00:57:10,471 --> 00:57:11,425 3, 4-- 1534 00:57:11,425 --> 00:57:16,380 (SINGING) Evil, wicked, mean, and nasty. 1535 00:57:16,380 --> 00:57:17,400 Nice. 1536 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:22,330 (SINGING) Evil, wicked, mean, and nasty. 1537 00:57:22,330 --> 00:57:23,187 I like it. 1538 00:57:23,187 --> 00:57:27,660 (SINGING) Evil, wicked, mean, and nasty. 1539 00:57:27,660 --> 00:57:31,139 [MUSIC - RON KEEL, "EVIL, WICKED, MEAN, & NASTY"] 1540 00:57:59,468 --> 00:58:01,470 No, I'm really proud of Kyle. 1541 00:58:01,470 --> 00:58:03,670 He did a great job, and I threw some stuff at him 1542 00:58:03,670 --> 00:58:05,320 that he wasn't expecting. 1543 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,640 He threw some stuff at me that I wasn't expecting. 1544 00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:12,410 That chorus, that low third harmony that he did, 1545 00:58:12,410 --> 00:58:17,200 brings out the evil, and the wicked, and the mean, 1546 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:21,784 and the nasty in the song. 1547 00:58:21,784 --> 00:58:23,710 [LAUGHING] 1548 00:58:23,710 --> 00:58:25,820 Other than that, it sounds nice. 1549 00:58:25,820 --> 00:58:27,820 [LAUGHING] 1550 00:58:27,820 --> 00:58:30,676 [MUSIC - ST. WARREN, "WHAT I NEED"] 1551 00:58:35,210 --> 00:58:36,760 How are you? 1552 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:37,260 Great. 1553 00:58:37,260 --> 00:58:38,760 We don't talk enough. 1554 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,068 I think we do. 1555 00:58:40,068 --> 00:58:41,380 I don't think we do. 1556 00:58:41,380 --> 00:58:44,970 I just got off the phone with the general manager at Peavey. 1557 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,670 According to them, they want to give us equipment and want 1558 00:58:51,670 --> 00:58:53,730 to be one of our sponsors. 1559 00:58:53,730 --> 00:58:55,710 We've worked with Steve Blaze. 1560 00:58:55,710 --> 00:58:56,550 Right. 1561 00:58:56,550 --> 00:59:00,920 Just so you know, Stevie Blaze endorses them. 1562 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,610 You know that whole tonal quality 1563 00:59:02,610 --> 00:59:05,675 that you're looking for, that's it, right there. 1564 00:59:05,675 --> 00:59:08,600 And that'd be cool if I reach out to him too and just be 1565 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,380 like hey, can you give me some pointers 1566 00:59:11,380 --> 00:59:15,000 as to what I'm looking for to get the sound. 1567 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,870 We want to make sure that we're knowledgeable about what 1568 00:59:17,870 --> 00:59:20,520 it is that we're doing, and we're coming out of left field. 1569 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,019 And to align ourselves with somebody 1570 00:59:22,019 --> 00:59:24,630 like Blaze, who can really get us 1571 00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:29,440 dialed in and say this is the direction you need to go. 1572 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:30,190 Steve, hey. 1573 00:59:30,190 --> 00:59:31,024 It's Steve Blaze. 1574 00:59:31,024 --> 00:59:31,940 What's happening, man? 1575 00:59:31,940 --> 00:59:32,898 Hey, how are you doing? 1576 00:59:32,898 --> 00:59:33,802 I'm good. 1577 00:59:33,802 --> 00:59:35,511 What's going on with you? 1578 00:59:35,511 --> 00:59:36,010 Well, yeah. 1579 00:59:36,010 --> 00:59:38,970 I just wanted to chat with you about the Peavey thing. 1580 00:59:38,970 --> 00:59:39,750 Right. 1581 00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:41,850 And I know you're endorsed by them, 1582 00:59:41,850 --> 00:59:43,750 so I just wanted to pick your brain 1583 00:59:43,750 --> 00:59:47,190 about maybe some of the particular models and stuff 1584 00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:49,390 that you use and maybe what you could recommend 1585 00:59:49,390 --> 00:59:53,790 to me for a sound, because I'm pretty much still 1586 00:59:53,790 --> 00:59:55,476 a novice at this. 1587 00:59:55,476 --> 00:59:55,975 Sure. 1588 00:59:55,975 --> 00:59:57,360 Not a problem. 1589 00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:58,370 Look at this. 1590 00:59:58,370 --> 01:00:01,134 Acoustically, I'm using their Composite Acoustic guitars. 1591 01:00:01,134 --> 01:00:02,836 They're made out of carbon fiber. 1592 01:00:02,836 --> 01:00:07,900 It's an acoustic guitar that never bends, never warps, never 1593 01:00:07,900 --> 01:00:11,400 sweats, and they sound amazing. 1594 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:16,280 [ACOUSTIC GUITAR PLAYING] 1595 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:26,341 How can I get a Steve Blaze tone, sound out of my guitar 1596 01:00:26,341 --> 01:00:26,840 and amp? 1597 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:31,074 You must sever these hands and have them surgically attached 1598 01:00:31,074 --> 01:00:32,466 to your body. 1599 01:00:32,466 --> 01:00:35,804 [SHREDDING] 1600 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,170 I think tone, for a lot of players, 1601 01:00:41,170 --> 01:00:44,340 has a lot to do with the individual. 1602 01:00:44,340 --> 01:00:46,030 I think half of the tone is in the body. 1603 01:00:46,030 --> 01:00:46,780 It's in the hands. 1604 01:00:46,780 --> 01:00:49,508 It's in the way that we handle our instruments. 1605 01:00:53,750 --> 01:00:56,880 I'm using the Triple XXX amps. 1606 01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,540 And they're warm, and they're not too treble-y. 1607 01:00:59,540 --> 01:01:02,240 I don't differentiate my lead and my heavy rhythm tone. 1608 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,850 I use the same sound for both, but it's 1609 01:01:05,850 --> 01:01:07,356 got a great clean sound too. 1610 01:01:10,828 --> 01:01:13,930 We feel like if we want to play like pros, 1611 01:01:13,930 --> 01:01:17,510 we need to have pro equipment, why we're having conversations 1612 01:01:17,510 --> 01:01:22,514 with you guys to help us get to the next step in our process. 1613 01:01:22,514 --> 01:01:25,436 What is that next step? 1614 01:01:25,436 --> 01:01:28,460 The biggest hurdle I see for you guys, 1615 01:01:28,460 --> 01:01:32,870 seriously, is that you weren't a big band back then. 1616 01:01:32,870 --> 01:01:36,190 So you're coming out like a new band, in a weird way. 1617 01:01:36,190 --> 01:01:37,930 You don't have a big fan base, do you? 1618 01:01:37,930 --> 01:01:39,520 Or maybe if you had a name. 1619 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,141 Maybe if people knew who the fuck you were at one point, 1620 01:01:42,141 --> 01:01:43,390 then it would be a lot easier. 1621 01:01:43,390 --> 01:01:45,650 But you've got a fucking rough road, bro. 1622 01:01:45,650 --> 01:01:51,450 You don't have the same track record to sell the band on. 1623 01:01:51,450 --> 01:01:53,339 In fact, you have no track record, do you? 1624 01:01:53,339 --> 01:01:55,380 When you're coming at it from the situation where 1625 01:01:55,380 --> 01:01:58,010 you've had no previous success and here you 1626 01:01:58,010 --> 01:02:00,160 are, a bunch of guys at the age you are at 1627 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,540 trying to get your toe in that water it is so hard. 1628 01:02:03,540 --> 01:02:07,770 It's a lot tougher now, now that you guys y'know, you waited too 1629 01:02:07,770 --> 01:02:08,520 long. 1630 01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:09,530 [LAUGHING] 1631 01:02:09,530 --> 01:02:10,195 All right. 1632 01:02:10,195 --> 01:02:10,695 Ready? 1633 01:02:14,705 --> 01:02:17,030 [ELECTRIC GUITAR PLAYING] 1634 01:02:17,030 --> 01:02:19,394 All I want is to play some fucking music. 1635 01:02:19,394 --> 01:02:21,684 The question is is can we fucking deliver? 1636 01:02:21,684 --> 01:02:24,530 (SINGING) When the tears are gone. 1637 01:02:24,530 --> 01:02:29,242 When the tears are gone, it's time to cry. 1638 01:02:29,242 --> 01:02:31,070 Don't you say a word. 1639 01:02:31,070 --> 01:02:34,510 Just say goodbye. 1640 01:02:34,510 --> 01:02:36,441 I don't have a voice. 1641 01:02:36,441 --> 01:02:38,750 Well, I knew that. 1642 01:02:38,750 --> 01:02:41,790 Stop being a dick, because I'm being dead serious. 1643 01:02:41,790 --> 01:02:44,130 What does that mean? 1644 01:02:44,130 --> 01:02:45,550 What, stop being a dick? 1645 01:02:45,550 --> 01:02:47,400 No. 1646 01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:48,910 Stop being who you are. 1647 01:02:48,910 --> 01:02:51,700 What does I don't have a voice mean? 1648 01:02:51,700 --> 01:02:52,460 (SINGING) Whoaaaa. 1649 01:02:58,250 --> 01:03:02,010 When the-- ah, fuck! 1650 01:03:02,010 --> 01:03:06,320 Any successful band has a singer that 1651 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,050 has a voice that stands out and that 1652 01:03:08,050 --> 01:03:11,290 has something unique about it. 1653 01:03:11,290 --> 01:03:12,710 And I don't have that. 1654 01:03:12,710 --> 01:03:14,360 And not that I say that I ever did, 1655 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:18,130 but I'm lost in how I approach this material. 1656 01:03:18,130 --> 01:03:20,580 If it's just kind of a generic singer, 1657 01:03:20,580 --> 01:03:23,980 then there's too much product out there right now. 1658 01:03:23,980 --> 01:03:28,400 It's too difficult for them to identify themselves. 1659 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,250 Good is just noise. 1660 01:03:31,250 --> 01:03:35,100 So I think the difference is you have to be amazing. 1661 01:03:35,100 --> 01:03:38,710 You never can be good enough. 1662 01:03:38,710 --> 01:03:40,320 You can always be tighter. 1663 01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,290 You can always be more dynamic. 1664 01:03:42,290 --> 01:03:46,010 You can always have better harmonies. 1665 01:03:46,010 --> 01:03:49,340 What does it mean to you? 1666 01:03:49,340 --> 01:03:53,739 I just want you to fucking know it like the back of your hand. 1667 01:03:53,739 --> 01:03:55,280 And the only way you could do that is 1668 01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:56,710 through either repetition and have 1669 01:03:56,710 --> 01:03:58,210 the confidence in what you're doing, 1670 01:03:58,210 --> 01:04:02,280 but having your skill set tuned up to make it so. 1671 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:02,780 Yes. 1672 01:04:02,780 --> 01:04:04,410 It's been a while. 1673 01:04:04,410 --> 01:04:05,580 It's not been easy, man. 1674 01:04:05,580 --> 01:04:06,270 I know it's not. 1675 01:04:06,270 --> 01:04:07,925 I can tell you right now, it hasn't been easy for me, 1676 01:04:07,925 --> 01:04:09,466 so you need to consider that as well. 1677 01:04:09,466 --> 01:04:10,030 I am. 1678 01:04:10,030 --> 01:04:11,364 It's not for the lack of trying. 1679 01:04:11,364 --> 01:04:11,863 OK. 1680 01:04:11,863 --> 01:04:12,460 Because I am. 1681 01:04:12,460 --> 01:04:14,120 I'm taking lessons. 1682 01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:15,150 I'm doing what I can. 1683 01:04:15,150 --> 01:04:16,170 All right. 1684 01:04:16,170 --> 01:04:19,730 So don't question my dedication to it. 1685 01:04:19,730 --> 01:04:20,410 I'm trying. 1686 01:04:20,410 --> 01:04:22,920 If you can't nail this song down, 1687 01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,040 you're not going to be able to do anything else. 1688 01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:25,668 [LAUGHING] 1689 01:04:25,668 --> 01:04:30,425 No, I'm being honest with you, because if you don't 1690 01:04:30,425 --> 01:04:35,210 derive any confidence from working this song out 1691 01:04:35,210 --> 01:04:37,680 and any motivation from it, you're 1692 01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:41,420 fucked for the rest of the time. 1693 01:04:41,420 --> 01:04:43,800 Democracy is bull shit in a rock band. 1694 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:44,810 Every band thinks OK. 1695 01:04:44,810 --> 01:04:45,910 We're all going to have an equal vote, 1696 01:04:45,910 --> 01:04:47,080 and blah, blah, blah, blah. 1697 01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:48,150 This never happens. 1698 01:04:48,150 --> 01:04:54,180 He thinks that I am trying to commandeer 1699 01:04:54,180 --> 01:04:55,620 everything that's going on. 1700 01:04:55,620 --> 01:04:59,250 My dedication level is a lot different than his, I think. 1701 01:04:59,250 --> 01:05:03,880 I don't have a consistent desire to be a musician. 1702 01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:08,960 I plan on doing something beyond this, if necessary. 1703 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:12,120 If you're not all on the same page, 1704 01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,490 then you're going to be butting heads. 1705 01:05:14,490 --> 01:05:16,343 The only way that something like this works 1706 01:05:16,343 --> 01:05:18,440 is if you push all in. 1707 01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,900 You're much more into it, I think, 1708 01:05:20,900 --> 01:05:22,795 than I am and have been all along. 1709 01:05:22,795 --> 01:05:25,240 I have sacrificed so much to do this. 1710 01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,220 This has been one of those things that 1711 01:05:27,220 --> 01:05:31,000 has caused me to reexamine who I am in my life, 1712 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:34,760 and I want to pursue it to the NTH degree. 1713 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,380 You don't share that, so what do you get out of it? 1714 01:05:37,380 --> 01:05:39,210 I guess initially it was a challenge 1715 01:05:39,210 --> 01:05:40,870 to see if we could do it. 1716 01:05:40,870 --> 01:05:45,850 That's really why I wanted to do it, to see if we could. 1717 01:05:45,850 --> 01:05:49,510 Do you feel that you're still on that same path though? 1718 01:05:55,420 --> 01:05:59,180 [PHONE RINGING] 1719 01:06:00,590 --> 01:06:01,270 Yes? 1720 01:06:01,270 --> 01:06:03,536 Well, so what's the deal? 1721 01:06:03,536 --> 01:06:06,120 Dude, I mean, I'll just cut to the chase. 1722 01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:07,861 I don't want to do this anymore. 1723 01:06:07,861 --> 01:06:09,990 I think that from where we started 1724 01:06:09,990 --> 01:06:11,950 and where we've ended up, it just 1725 01:06:11,950 --> 01:06:14,902 hasn't played out as I would had hoped, 1726 01:06:14,902 --> 01:06:17,500 and I feel like I've got everything 1727 01:06:17,500 --> 01:06:20,570 from my end to make it go. 1728 01:06:20,570 --> 01:06:24,319 And obviously, it's not going anywhere. 1729 01:06:24,319 --> 01:06:26,360 Of course we're going to ask ourselves every day, 1730 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:27,367 is this worth it? 1731 01:06:27,367 --> 01:06:28,950 Is it worth putting our lives on hold? 1732 01:06:28,950 --> 01:06:31,560 Is it worth fucking not getting a job? 1733 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:35,080 Is it worth practicing every day? 1734 01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:36,220 Who knows? 1735 01:06:36,220 --> 01:06:37,506 I don't know. 1736 01:06:37,506 --> 01:06:40,310 And at one point I'm like fuck, it's probably not. 1737 01:06:40,310 --> 01:06:41,744 6, 7, 8. 1738 01:06:41,744 --> 01:06:44,660 If somebody dropped coin on us tomorrow 1739 01:06:44,660 --> 01:06:48,105 and we were slated to go in, record in three or four weeks, 1740 01:06:48,105 --> 01:06:49,510 we wouldn't be able to do it. 1741 01:06:49,510 --> 01:06:50,234 We couldn't. 1742 01:06:50,234 --> 01:06:51,650 We just wouldn't be able to do it. 1743 01:06:51,650 --> 01:06:53,910 And I'm not slamming you, dude. 1744 01:06:53,910 --> 01:06:57,600 But I just don't think that you have the level of commitment 1745 01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,700 needed to pull this off. 1746 01:07:00,700 --> 01:07:02,880 I don't think we're on the same page. 1747 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,504 I don't think we share the same values. 1748 01:07:04,504 --> 01:07:07,230 We definitely don't have the same goal. 1749 01:07:07,230 --> 01:07:11,210 From the beginning, him and I had different goals, 1750 01:07:11,210 --> 01:07:12,110 which was fine. 1751 01:07:12,110 --> 01:07:14,730 And we knew that from the very beginning. 1752 01:07:14,730 --> 01:07:16,640 He wanted to say this as far as it could, 1753 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,670 and I wanted to take it to where we said we were going to go, 1754 01:07:19,670 --> 01:07:22,820 which was get the band together, play a gig. 1755 01:07:22,820 --> 01:07:25,170 And that shit didn't happen. 1756 01:07:25,170 --> 01:07:28,400 We derailed from the original band. 1757 01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:32,040 We're in some parallel fucking plan. 1758 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:33,180 I don't even know. 1759 01:07:33,180 --> 01:07:35,070 I don't even know what the fuck we're doing. 1760 01:07:39,421 --> 01:07:41,950 This is a major undertaking, man. 1761 01:07:41,950 --> 01:07:44,630 Who fucking makes a movie about themselves 1762 01:07:44,630 --> 01:07:50,040 like this, number one, and puts themselves 1763 01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:51,730 in a position where they basically 1764 01:07:51,730 --> 01:07:54,707 have to acquire a fucking skill in the middle of their life? 1765 01:07:54,707 --> 01:07:56,495 That's insane! 1766 01:07:56,495 --> 01:07:59,880 And that's where we are. 1767 01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:04,410 So that means what, are you just interested 1768 01:08:04,410 --> 01:08:05,750 in taking a break from this? 1769 01:08:05,750 --> 01:08:08,720 Do you just want it to end? 1770 01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,170 What are you looking to do? 1771 01:08:10,170 --> 01:08:15,540 I cannot continue going in this direction of nothing happening 1772 01:08:15,540 --> 01:08:17,750 and living the way that I am. 1773 01:08:17,750 --> 01:08:19,102 I can't do it anymore. 1774 01:08:19,102 --> 01:08:20,810 I'm not going to say god, I wish we would 1775 01:08:20,810 --> 01:08:21,400 have done this differently. 1776 01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:22,689 I can't change that. 1777 01:08:22,689 --> 01:08:26,288 What I can change is now looking forward, 1778 01:08:26,288 --> 01:08:31,560 and I just don't see this going anywhere. 1779 01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:33,975 I think it's a failure. 1780 01:08:33,975 --> 01:08:35,320 [LAUGHS] 1781 01:08:35,819 --> 01:08:38,960 When you first start off, it's all for one and one for all. 1782 01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,750 And eventually, just as people, we evolve, 1783 01:08:41,750 --> 01:08:43,550 and you sort of find yourself. 1784 01:08:43,550 --> 01:08:45,340 That's part of reality in bands. 1785 01:08:45,340 --> 01:08:47,430 I mean here you are now, just two of you. 1786 01:08:47,430 --> 01:08:55,135 It's like a marriage times 100. 1787 01:08:55,135 --> 01:08:58,479 [PHONE RINGING] 1788 01:08:58,479 --> 01:08:59,984 You there? 1789 01:08:59,984 --> 01:09:00,750 Yep. 1790 01:09:00,750 --> 01:09:03,481 I just got evicted, so I got to figure out 1791 01:09:03,481 --> 01:09:05,380 what I'm going to do. 1792 01:09:05,380 --> 01:09:14,290 [MUSIC - "EYES ON FIRE"] 1793 01:09:14,290 --> 01:09:17,755 [KYLE SINGING] Stare, all I do is stare -- 1794 01:09:20,189 --> 01:09:24,021 I've got to figure out a plan. 1795 01:09:24,021 --> 01:09:27,374 Oh, fuck. 1796 01:09:27,374 --> 01:09:29,408 I've got a little room and storage. 1797 01:09:29,408 --> 01:09:32,252 Not a whole lot, but-- 1798 01:09:32,252 --> 01:09:35,210 I'm putting my stuff in storage while I 1799 01:09:35,210 --> 01:09:37,915 try to find a place to live. 1800 01:09:37,915 --> 01:09:38,930 Whose storage? 1801 01:09:38,930 --> 01:09:41,020 Steve's storage. 1802 01:09:41,020 --> 01:09:42,710 Even my living situation has changed, 1803 01:09:42,710 --> 01:09:46,966 so there's nothing I can really do to help him at this point. 1804 01:09:46,966 --> 01:09:48,346 [GRUNT] 1805 01:09:48,346 --> 01:09:51,020 He was either going to be living in his car, 1806 01:09:51,020 --> 01:09:53,779 or I have a spare room, and I know 1807 01:09:53,779 --> 01:09:55,210 if I was in the same situation, I 1808 01:09:55,210 --> 01:09:57,446 would hope somebody would offer that to me. 1809 01:09:57,446 --> 01:09:59,278 So yeah, Kyle's upstairs. 1810 01:10:05,850 --> 01:10:08,800 I can admire somebody that takes a risk like that, 1811 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,410 because I known that there's things that I would love be 1812 01:10:11,410 --> 01:10:13,236 doing right now that I'm not. 1813 01:10:13,236 --> 01:10:21,290 (SINGING) Eyes on fire one way windows to the world. 1814 01:10:21,290 --> 01:10:23,010 Car payment's past due. 1815 01:10:23,010 --> 01:10:25,036 They shut off my phone. 1816 01:10:25,036 --> 01:10:30,740 I've got a couple of interviews working-- trying to get work. 1817 01:10:30,740 --> 01:10:35,592 It takes some guts to sacrifice everything to fulfill a dream. 1818 01:10:35,592 --> 01:10:38,676 (SINGING) Ashes fall like acid rain. 1819 01:10:38,676 --> 01:10:39,800 I've got to be accountable. 1820 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,565 I put myself here, but I had a plan, and the plan, 1821 01:10:42,565 --> 01:10:45,618 a just hasn't reached its end. 1822 01:10:45,618 --> 01:10:47,109 (SINGING) You never heard. 1823 01:10:47,109 --> 01:10:52,295 You never were alarmed. 1824 01:10:52,295 --> 01:10:56,100 And it has me wondering if all of this was worth it at all. 1825 01:11:05,064 --> 01:11:09,297 We actually had this kind of regular fan email us 1826 01:11:09,297 --> 01:11:11,750 and said that they wanted to invest in the film, which 1827 01:11:11,750 --> 01:11:13,480 is the first actual investor. 1828 01:11:13,480 --> 01:11:15,060 Money is not everything in this life, 1829 01:11:15,060 --> 01:11:18,370 so to help you guys get to your dream, 1830 01:11:18,370 --> 01:11:20,840 and it took a little bit of money to get there, 1831 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:25,078 and then to have lifelong relationships, that's awesome. 1832 01:11:30,504 --> 01:11:32,920 It's really exciting to hear that you guys are doing this. 1833 01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:34,710 And I think if you were interviewing 1834 01:11:34,710 --> 01:11:37,040 our entire industry, the guys that make guitar amps, 1835 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:38,300 and sell guitars. 1836 01:11:38,300 --> 01:11:40,716 We all wanted to be doing what you're doing now. 1837 01:11:44,450 --> 01:11:46,470 You're the first person that's come and tried 1838 01:11:46,470 --> 01:11:49,062 to do this with Peavey, and I think 1839 01:11:49,062 --> 01:11:50,270 it's exciting, quite frankly. 1840 01:11:54,270 --> 01:11:55,660 [GRUNTING] 1841 01:11:58,330 --> 01:12:00,910 In ear monitor system. 1842 01:12:00,910 --> 01:12:04,950 So we should have two heads, four straight cabinets, 1843 01:12:04,950 --> 01:12:09,558 two AT-200 guitars, two acoustic guitars. 1844 01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:13,458 Nice. 1845 01:12:13,458 --> 01:12:15,290 Good stuff. 1846 01:12:15,290 --> 01:12:17,881 Oh, it's definitely on now. 1847 01:12:17,881 --> 01:12:19,749 [MUSIC - CLEAVAGE, "GREASE MONKEY"] 1848 01:12:23,250 --> 01:12:25,000 Let's just hear that part again coming out 1849 01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,254 of that second chorus. 1850 01:12:27,254 --> 01:12:29,420 Steve and I both agree that the most important thing 1851 01:12:29,420 --> 01:12:31,350 that we're going to do at this juncture 1852 01:12:31,350 --> 01:12:33,032 is to make a record happen. 1853 01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,050 Until you have that, you're not going 1854 01:12:38,050 --> 01:12:40,620 to get anybody that's going to want to be in your band 1855 01:12:40,620 --> 01:12:43,420 until they know what kind of music are you? 1856 01:12:43,420 --> 01:12:45,750 Because what are you going to tell them? 1857 01:12:45,750 --> 01:12:47,475 We're a rock metal band. 1858 01:12:47,475 --> 01:12:49,110 There's 6,000 of those. 1859 01:12:49,110 --> 01:12:51,410 Can't find a guitar player or can't find a bass player? 1860 01:12:51,410 --> 01:12:52,951 Go hire somebody that's good that you 1861 01:12:52,951 --> 01:12:54,243 like that he plays his ass off. 1862 01:12:54,243 --> 01:12:56,867 So what you're saying is you're not ready to commit to our band 1863 01:12:56,867 --> 01:12:57,394 just yet? 1864 01:12:57,394 --> 01:12:58,560 Not until I hear some music. 1865 01:12:58,560 --> 01:12:59,030 You want to hear-- 1866 01:12:59,030 --> 01:13:00,060 Not until I hear some music. 1867 01:13:00,060 --> 01:13:00,560 All right. 1868 01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,560 All right. 1869 01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,070 We have had it, as part of our plan 1870 01:13:06,070 --> 01:13:10,100 for a long time, that Ron Keel was going to produce our album. 1871 01:13:10,100 --> 01:13:14,890 Ron texted me last night with the dates. he got us a studio, 1872 01:13:14,890 --> 01:13:17,810 and is just working on a couple of other details, 1873 01:13:17,810 --> 01:13:19,523 but it looks like it's a go. 1874 01:13:19,523 --> 01:13:24,636 [MUSIC - RON KEEL, "MY BAD"] 1875 01:13:24,636 --> 01:13:29,430 In terms of making the project, in terms of making an album, 1876 01:13:29,430 --> 01:13:35,290 I will take whatever you've got, whether it's material, music, 1877 01:13:35,290 --> 01:13:39,848 money, time, and make the most of it. 1878 01:13:46,190 --> 01:13:48,820 Welcome to Cedar City, Utah. 1879 01:13:48,820 --> 01:13:55,070 Just make sure you're very well prepared. 1880 01:13:55,070 --> 01:14:00,760 And if you're not, it'll bite you in the ass. 1881 01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,170 Just make sure whatever you're recording man, that you 1882 01:14:03,170 --> 01:14:07,650 can reproduce it live, because a lot of people go to shows 1883 01:14:07,650 --> 01:14:09,500 and they go man, this is not the band 1884 01:14:09,500 --> 01:14:12,500 that I just listened to on the way to the concert. 1885 01:14:12,500 --> 01:14:14,650 Do not let the studio intimidate you. 1886 01:14:14,650 --> 01:14:15,540 Go in there. 1887 01:14:15,540 --> 01:14:19,885 Rock and roll is not about perfection. 1888 01:14:19,885 --> 01:14:23,050 Rock and roll is about flaws. 1889 01:14:23,050 --> 01:14:25,580 That's where some of the great stuff comes from. 1890 01:14:25,580 --> 01:14:29,300 As a friend of mine told me, have fun. 1891 01:14:29,300 --> 01:14:34,137 If it's not about having fun, then it's stupid, really. 1892 01:14:34,137 --> 01:14:35,470 So I'm going to try to have fun. 1893 01:14:35,470 --> 01:14:36,944 I'm going to do the best I can. 1894 01:14:36,944 --> 01:14:37,860 I'm going to have fun. 1895 01:14:37,860 --> 01:14:40,041 Yes, I practiced. 1896 01:14:40,041 --> 01:14:40,540 Fuck. 1897 01:14:40,540 --> 01:14:42,380 I'm drunk. 1898 01:14:42,380 --> 01:14:49,350 If it stops being fun, then it doesn't matter. 1899 01:14:49,350 --> 01:14:53,450 This is where we'll track the drums, 1900 01:14:53,450 --> 01:14:56,850 and we'll be in here with them, headphones, 1901 01:14:56,850 --> 01:14:58,525 tracking together as a band. 1902 01:15:01,260 --> 01:15:05,310 You're going to love Les, Les Warner from The Cult 1903 01:15:05,310 --> 01:15:06,897 on drums for this session. 1904 01:15:06,897 --> 01:15:08,980 Not only has he got platinum and gold on the wall, 1905 01:15:08,980 --> 01:15:12,180 he's got a platinum heart as well. 1906 01:15:12,180 --> 01:15:15,220 Great groove, and does his homework. 1907 01:15:15,220 --> 01:15:18,533 Always has a great attitude and a smile, but he's fearless. 1908 01:15:21,990 --> 01:15:23,760 Check, check, check, done. 1909 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:24,500 Talk back mic. 1910 01:15:24,500 --> 01:15:27,845 Talk back mic. 1911 01:15:27,845 --> 01:15:29,800 Let's carve this track. 1912 01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:30,640 "Gone Again". 1913 01:15:37,830 --> 01:15:39,470 Leave the space open. 1914 01:15:39,470 --> 01:15:43,250 1, 2-- 1915 01:15:43,250 --> 01:15:45,690 That's all the click we need. 1916 01:15:45,690 --> 01:15:49,635 [MUSIC - "GONE AGAIN"] 1917 01:15:57,850 --> 01:15:58,660 Wrong chord. 1918 01:15:58,660 --> 01:15:59,160 Sorry. 1919 01:15:59,160 --> 01:15:59,510 Yeah. 1920 01:15:59,510 --> 01:16:00,885 Quarter notes will be kicked out. 1921 01:16:00,885 --> 01:16:03,070 Once we come in after the second accent, 1922 01:16:03,070 --> 01:16:04,593 quarter notes on the kick. 1923 01:16:04,593 --> 01:16:06,565 Again. 1924 01:16:06,565 --> 01:16:10,016 [DRUMS PLAYING] 1925 01:16:17,910 --> 01:16:20,101 Again, we've got to watch the timing of the guitars. 1926 01:16:20,101 --> 01:16:20,600 Yeah. 1927 01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:21,240 I'm getting lost. 1928 01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:22,190 A little bit in front. 1929 01:16:22,190 --> 01:16:23,398 It was a little bit in front. 1930 01:16:23,398 --> 01:16:24,175 I'm getting lost. 1931 01:16:24,175 --> 01:16:24,675 That's all. 1932 01:16:24,675 --> 01:16:25,990 Can't get lost. 1933 01:16:25,990 --> 01:16:28,510 This isn't rock and roll fantasy camp. 1934 01:16:28,510 --> 01:16:30,250 We're in the studio making a master here. 1935 01:16:30,250 --> 01:16:34,470 this is what you guys have staked your whole career on, 1936 01:16:34,470 --> 01:16:37,130 and come back, and gone through all this sweat, and muscle, 1937 01:16:37,130 --> 01:16:39,071 and blood to achieve. 1938 01:16:39,071 --> 01:16:42,793 [DRUMS PLAYING] 1939 01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:48,771 [YELLING] You guys can't just bail on us like this! 1940 01:16:48,771 --> 01:16:49,270 Yeah, man. 1941 01:16:49,270 --> 01:16:50,730 We came in too early. 1942 01:16:50,730 --> 01:16:52,412 It's not your take. 1943 01:16:52,412 --> 01:16:52,995 It's his take! 1944 01:16:52,995 --> 01:16:54,411 I know, but I'm getting lost, Ron. 1945 01:16:54,411 --> 01:16:56,370 If he's fucking rocking, we don't stop! 1946 01:16:56,370 --> 01:16:57,380 Pick it back up! 1947 01:16:57,380 --> 01:16:58,226 Don't bail on us! 1948 01:16:58,226 --> 01:16:59,725 We're trying to get you a take here! 1949 01:16:59,725 --> 01:17:00,540 I understand. 1950 01:17:00,540 --> 01:17:01,515 All right. 1951 01:17:01,515 --> 01:17:04,130 If he doesn't fuck up, we don't stop! 1952 01:17:04,130 --> 01:17:05,640 And we're going to delete that take, 1953 01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:07,140 and then we're going to start again. 1954 01:17:07,140 --> 01:17:08,090 Here, punch in. 1955 01:17:08,090 --> 01:17:08,700 Play along. 1956 01:17:08,700 --> 01:17:10,880 We'll punch in from one in the breakdown, 1957 01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,172 because it's all good up to there. 1958 01:17:13,172 --> 01:17:16,555 [DRUMS PLAYING] 1959 01:17:17,521 --> 01:17:18,390 It's good. 1960 01:17:18,390 --> 01:17:19,150 That's good. 1961 01:17:19,150 --> 01:17:19,825 It's good. 1962 01:17:19,825 --> 01:17:21,555 It's good! 1963 01:17:21,555 --> 01:17:22,890 Ahhh! 1964 01:17:22,890 --> 01:17:24,020 So I feel it. 1965 01:17:24,020 --> 01:17:24,902 This is the one! 1966 01:17:28,910 --> 01:17:31,450 If we'd rehearsed, we would just come in and bang it out. 1967 01:17:31,450 --> 01:17:32,080 Yeah. 1968 01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:34,961 But when you're changing things up, 1969 01:17:34,961 --> 01:17:37,740 it tends to sort of-- it'll take a little bit longer, 1970 01:17:37,740 --> 01:17:39,970 but the main thing is is you get the results 1971 01:17:39,970 --> 01:17:41,610 at the end of the day that you want. 1972 01:17:41,610 --> 01:17:43,632 You improve on it, you know what I mean? 1973 01:17:48,726 --> 01:17:49,850 [ON THE PHONE] How'd it go? 1974 01:17:49,850 --> 01:17:52,230 We've never really been in that type of environment, 1975 01:17:52,230 --> 01:17:55,550 and then we're playing with a professional drummer. 1976 01:17:55,550 --> 01:17:58,650 And it just-- I don't know. 1977 01:17:58,650 --> 01:18:01,457 I mean we got by, but it took a long, long time. 1978 01:18:01,457 --> 01:18:03,790 You're the first drummer that we've played with together 1979 01:18:03,790 --> 01:18:04,710 since 1987. 1980 01:18:04,710 --> 01:18:05,210 Really? 1981 01:18:05,210 --> 01:18:05,710 Yeah. 1982 01:18:05,710 --> 01:18:07,340 What band were you in in 1987? 1983 01:18:07,340 --> 01:18:09,190 I was with The Cult. Yeah. 1984 01:18:09,190 --> 01:18:10,910 That's what I was doing in '87. 1985 01:18:10,910 --> 01:18:11,410 [LAUGHS] 1986 01:18:11,410 --> 01:18:13,858 And getting laid lots. 1987 01:18:13,858 --> 01:18:15,190 [LAUGHS] 1988 01:18:15,190 --> 01:18:17,260 So what's changed since '87? 1989 01:18:17,260 --> 01:18:17,980 Nothing. 1990 01:18:17,980 --> 01:18:19,430 [LAUGHING] 1991 01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:21,340 All right. 1992 01:18:21,340 --> 01:18:25,000 Well, here we are, and this is all about the music. 1993 01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,654 The first step is laying down these solid rhythm guitars. 1994 01:18:27,654 --> 01:18:29,070 You've got to play with the drums. 1995 01:18:29,070 --> 01:18:31,153 Les Warner did a great job giving us a very strong 1996 01:18:31,153 --> 01:18:32,990 foundation to build upon. 1997 01:18:32,990 --> 01:18:35,232 So play with the drums. 1998 01:18:35,232 --> 01:18:35,940 Have fun with it. 1999 01:18:35,940 --> 01:18:38,023 Don't be afraid to be fearless, a little reckless. 2000 01:18:38,023 --> 01:18:40,070 But also, you've got to be precise. 2001 01:18:40,070 --> 01:18:42,360 Let's do this, brother. 2002 01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,360 [DRUM STICKS CLACKING] 2003 01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:45,360 1, 2-- 2004 01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,788 [MUSIC - "GONE AGAIN"] 2005 01:19:28,483 --> 01:19:32,540 (SINGING) Old, my head, it's broken. 2006 01:19:32,540 --> 01:19:36,522 New words barely spoken. 2007 01:19:36,522 --> 01:19:40,200 Nothing matters in the end. 2008 01:19:43,434 --> 01:19:46,600 You guys liked that. 2009 01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:47,900 You liked that. 2010 01:19:47,900 --> 01:19:50,245 I don't know. 2011 01:19:50,245 --> 01:19:51,634 [LAUGHS] 2012 01:19:51,634 --> 01:19:52,890 I like it too. 2013 01:19:52,890 --> 01:19:53,990 You're a fucker, man. 2014 01:19:53,990 --> 01:19:55,478 [LAUGHING] 2015 01:19:55,478 --> 01:20:03,450 (SINGING) All the feeling is gone again. 2016 01:20:03,450 --> 01:20:04,177 That's money. 2017 01:20:04,177 --> 01:20:04,676 OK. 2018 01:20:04,676 --> 01:20:05,640 I think so. 2019 01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:07,770 Give me the untied again, the first word, 2020 01:20:07,770 --> 01:20:09,770 untied-- (SINGING) Untied. 2021 01:20:09,770 --> 01:20:13,710 (SINGING) Untied memories. 2022 01:20:13,710 --> 01:20:14,320 Oh, yeah. 2023 01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:15,100 Check that. 2024 01:20:15,100 --> 01:20:16,740 Give it to me one more time. 2025 01:20:16,740 --> 01:20:18,424 I want enunciation. 2026 01:20:18,424 --> 01:20:20,340 I want to make sure I know what you're saying. 2027 01:20:20,340 --> 01:20:22,216 You're going to feel this. 2028 01:20:22,216 --> 01:20:24,590 Take it back to the inspiration where you wrote the song. 2029 01:20:24,590 --> 01:20:30,770 (SINGING) The final scene to play out on the screen. 2030 01:20:30,770 --> 01:20:32,230 I'm keeping that. 2031 01:20:32,230 --> 01:20:34,140 There's some great stuff there. 2032 01:20:34,140 --> 01:20:35,860 I'm going to give you another shot at it. 2033 01:20:35,860 --> 01:20:37,860 (SINGING) Rewind the reel! 2034 01:20:41,750 --> 01:20:45,510 Let's listen to this take, then we'll start stacking harmonies. 2035 01:20:45,510 --> 01:20:51,954 (SINGING) Shattered reflections in the lens. 2036 01:20:51,954 --> 01:20:53,810 Now, you're gotta match that lead vocal 2037 01:20:53,810 --> 01:20:55,491 in every possible way. 2038 01:20:55,491 --> 01:21:00,670 (SINGING) All the feeling is gone again. 2039 01:21:03,982 --> 01:21:05,260 You're gonna do that again. 2040 01:21:05,260 --> 01:21:07,204 (SINGING) Indeci-- 2041 01:21:07,204 --> 01:21:08,662 No! 2042 01:21:08,662 --> 01:21:11,092 (SINGING) All the-- 2043 01:21:11,092 --> 01:21:13,020 Feeling-- 2044 01:21:13,020 --> 01:21:16,520 This is some very ambitious shit. 2045 01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,394 Keep in mind, if I'm mixing this thing, if Tom and I are mixing 2046 01:21:19,394 --> 01:21:21,060 this thing tomorrow and it doesn't work, 2047 01:21:21,060 --> 01:21:22,035 we're not using it. 2048 01:21:22,035 --> 01:21:24,800 We're burying it, all right? 2049 01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:30,520 A producer is really important, because he's 2050 01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:31,830 taking charge of everything. 2051 01:21:31,830 --> 01:21:34,270 He's not going to let anything go 2052 01:21:34,270 --> 01:21:37,020 way beyond what it needs to be. 2053 01:21:37,020 --> 01:21:39,990 If it's what you want, it's your vision, that's cool. 2054 01:21:39,990 --> 01:21:41,090 Execute it for me. 2055 01:21:41,090 --> 01:21:41,910 We'll record it. 2056 01:21:41,910 --> 01:21:43,000 We're just recording it. 2057 01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:46,260 I'm just telling you we've got to sing in key. 2058 01:21:46,260 --> 01:21:49,330 And we've got to be in the right phrasing, and the right notes, 2059 01:21:49,330 --> 01:21:50,910 and the right phrasing. 2060 01:21:50,910 --> 01:21:54,480 I'm not dissing the parts, but it's got to sound good. 2061 01:21:54,480 --> 01:21:55,730 It's got to match. 2062 01:21:55,730 --> 01:22:03,060 The producer is also a fresh pair of outside ears, 2063 01:22:03,060 --> 01:22:07,510 because everybody in the band is so personal to their music. 2064 01:22:07,510 --> 01:22:09,830 The lead vocal is great. 2065 01:22:09,830 --> 01:22:12,470 And now we're killing it by stacking stuff 2066 01:22:12,470 --> 01:22:17,620 on top of it that's out of time and out of key. 2067 01:22:17,620 --> 01:22:20,210 So sing it in time, and sing it in key. 2068 01:22:20,210 --> 01:22:23,280 I wish I would have known that before we got here, 2069 01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:24,630 and I would have changed it. 2070 01:22:24,630 --> 01:22:27,130 But it's in my head, because that's the way that I wrote it. 2071 01:22:27,130 --> 01:22:28,713 If you're not willing to kill somebody 2072 01:22:28,713 --> 01:22:30,999 over what you believe in, then you're not involved, 2073 01:22:30,999 --> 01:22:33,040 invested in what you're doing in the first place. 2074 01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:34,540 That doesn't mean you're not wrong. 2075 01:22:34,540 --> 01:22:36,760 We've been here 12 hours. 2076 01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:37,760 I don't want to do it. 2077 01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:38,926 I want to do the octave now. 2078 01:22:38,926 --> 01:22:40,972 I don't want to go through this anymore. 2079 01:22:40,972 --> 01:22:41,555 Take a breath. 2080 01:22:41,555 --> 01:22:42,811 Let's focus and get this done. 2081 01:22:42,811 --> 01:22:43,310 OK. 2082 01:22:43,310 --> 01:22:44,185 We can't leave here-- 2083 01:22:44,185 --> 01:22:48,160 25 to 30 octave, and I'm going to do 2084 01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:52,164 a harmony on the "stare" part on line 30, and that's it. 2085 01:22:52,164 --> 01:22:53,580 That's how we're going to play it. 2086 01:22:58,260 --> 01:22:58,760 No. 2087 01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:01,093 We're going to play it how I say we're going to play it, 2088 01:23:01,093 --> 01:23:03,308 because you are paying me to make the call. 2089 01:23:03,308 --> 01:23:04,682 And I understand that, but you're 2090 01:23:04,682 --> 01:23:07,400 asking to do something I obviously can't do. 2091 01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:08,900 I feel a record's done when everyone 2092 01:23:08,900 --> 01:23:10,941 can't talk to anybody anymore, like when you hate 2093 01:23:10,941 --> 01:23:13,650 each other, when there is just if you even see each other, 2094 01:23:13,650 --> 01:23:15,320 you want to choke each other to death. 2095 01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:17,010 That, to me, is a sign of like, OK. 2096 01:23:17,010 --> 01:23:18,260 We're probably in a good spot. 2097 01:23:18,260 --> 01:23:21,753 (SINGING) Remember when. 2098 01:23:21,753 --> 01:23:25,246 [ELECTRIC GUITAR PLAYING] 2099 01:23:51,194 --> 01:24:04,667 Oh whoa Oh whoa Oh whoa Oh whoa 2100 01:24:04,667 --> 01:24:08,374 When the tears are gone, it's time to cry. 2101 01:24:08,374 --> 01:24:10,630 Don't you say a word. 2102 01:24:10,630 --> 01:24:14,130 Just say goodbye to me. 2103 01:24:14,130 --> 01:24:20,119 Goodbye means goodbye lasts forever. 2104 01:24:20,119 --> 01:24:26,107 Yeah, goodbye to me means goodbye lasts forever. 2105 01:24:26,107 --> 01:24:28,602 (What you mean ain't what you say It doesn't matter anyway) 2106 01:24:28,602 --> 01:24:33,592 Goodbye to me means goodbye Lasts forever. 2107 01:24:37,085 --> 01:24:43,073 All the feeling is gone again. 2108 01:24:43,073 --> 01:24:45,069 Gone again. 2109 01:24:45,069 --> 01:24:50,558 Untied memories will fall again. 2110 01:24:50,558 --> 01:24:52,558 Fall again. 2111 01:24:52,558 --> 01:24:55,053 The negatives were blown up. 2112 01:24:55,053 --> 01:25:06,031 Now you finally must own up to-- all the feeling is gone again. 2113 01:25:06,031 --> 01:25:07,528 Gone again. 2114 01:25:07,528 --> 01:25:11,520 It's gone again. 2115 01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:14,015 Gone again. 2116 01:25:14,015 --> 01:25:15,512 Gone again. 2117 01:25:15,512 --> 01:25:19,504 Gone again. 2118 01:25:19,504 --> 01:25:24,494 Gone again. 2119 01:25:24,494 --> 01:25:27,488 Rewind the reel! 2120 01:25:27,488 --> 01:25:29,484 Come here. 2121 01:25:29,484 --> 01:25:31,479 Man, I'm so proud of you. 2122 01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:31,979 Thanks. 2123 01:25:31,979 --> 01:25:34,474 That was amazing. 2124 01:25:34,474 --> 01:25:36,470 You've come so far. 2125 01:25:36,470 --> 01:25:38,012 You never gave out. 2126 01:25:41,685 --> 01:25:42,931 I'm just proud of you. 2127 01:25:42,931 --> 01:25:43,430 Thanks. 2128 01:25:43,430 --> 01:25:46,720 Well now that we do have a tangible product, 2129 01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:48,713 I think the idea is just to get in front 2130 01:25:48,713 --> 01:25:50,510 of as many people as possible. 2131 01:25:50,510 --> 01:25:54,870 The key to getting people to play music with us 2132 01:25:54,870 --> 01:25:56,990 is getting them to listen to the music. 2133 01:25:56,990 --> 01:26:00,290 That's the reason why we went into the studio on our own 2134 01:26:00,290 --> 01:26:02,056 was to be able to present that. 2135 01:26:02,056 --> 01:26:03,430 I think the formation of the band 2136 01:26:03,430 --> 01:26:06,315 is going to be dependent on that music. 2137 01:26:06,315 --> 01:26:07,940 This whole thing that we've been trying 2138 01:26:07,940 --> 01:26:11,150 to do with the culmination is to put together 2139 01:26:11,150 --> 01:26:14,660 a band to do for us, a significant gig, 2140 01:26:14,660 --> 01:26:16,741 and mark it off on the bucket list. 2141 01:26:16,741 --> 01:26:18,240 We're trying to put a band together, 2142 01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:19,680 and so we're basically going to go 2143 01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:23,120 throw the shit against the wall, and this is a little sampler 2144 01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:23,840 of what we did. 2145 01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:24,707 This is you guys? 2146 01:26:24,707 --> 01:26:25,790 We went and did this, man. 2147 01:26:25,790 --> 01:26:28,600 This is all a sample of some of the music we've been doing. 2148 01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,480 We want to give that to you, and my phone number's on there. 2149 01:26:31,480 --> 01:26:33,938 And if you like what you hear and you're looking for a side 2150 01:26:33,938 --> 01:26:36,410 project, give us a call. 2151 01:26:36,410 --> 01:26:37,210 OK. 2152 01:26:37,210 --> 01:26:39,286 Is that what this interview just turned into? 2153 01:26:39,286 --> 01:26:42,565 You scrounge around for musicians? 2154 01:26:42,565 --> 01:26:44,440 I think maybe you want to listen to the music 2155 01:26:44,440 --> 01:26:46,080 first and say whether-- 2156 01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,415 Well, it's not so much the music. 2157 01:26:51,290 --> 01:26:52,810 How much money-- 2158 01:26:52,810 --> 01:26:53,885 [LAUGHING] 2159 01:26:53,885 --> 01:26:54,990 --do you pay? 2160 01:26:54,990 --> 01:26:57,640 I think for the most part, people will like the music, 2161 01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:03,130 because it does have a lot of the elements of the genre we 2162 01:27:03,130 --> 01:27:04,260 grew up listening to. 2163 01:27:04,260 --> 01:27:07,180 It definitely sounds throwback, like '80s, 2164 01:27:07,180 --> 01:27:09,596 but it's very dark '80s too. 2165 01:27:09,596 --> 01:27:12,512 [MUSIC - "YOUR CRIME"] 2166 01:27:12,512 --> 01:27:16,650 It's like Bon Scott and Ronnie James Dio 2167 01:27:16,650 --> 01:27:19,130 had a love child who wants to go out and set fire 2168 01:27:19,130 --> 01:27:20,030 to school buildings. 2169 01:27:20,030 --> 01:27:21,488 (SINGING) You get away with murder, 2170 01:27:21,488 --> 01:27:24,030 and now I'm falling for your crime. 2171 01:27:24,030 --> 01:27:26,270 Your Crime is my fave because it's a rocker, 2172 01:27:26,270 --> 01:27:28,080 and it's [IMITATES METAL SOUNDS]. 2173 01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,530 You went hair metal, that was hair metal. 2174 01:27:30,530 --> 01:27:35,740 You guys were able to capture that mid-'80s style metal sound 2175 01:27:35,740 --> 01:27:37,650 without sounding dated. 2176 01:27:37,650 --> 01:27:40,780 You could take that song, and fine tune it, 2177 01:27:40,780 --> 01:27:42,320 and it would sound like a radio hit. 2178 01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:43,470 I was really shocked. 2179 01:27:43,470 --> 01:27:45,590 It was pretty fucking great. 2180 01:27:45,590 --> 01:27:47,970 People aren't expecting a whole lot from us, man. 2181 01:27:47,970 --> 01:27:54,090 And to have them be so surprised and go wow. 2182 01:27:54,090 --> 01:27:55,640 He got a good performance out of you. 2183 01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:57,535 I've never heard you sound that good vocally. 2184 01:27:57,535 --> 01:27:58,260 Thanks, man. 2185 01:27:58,260 --> 01:28:01,820 Gordon surprised me with his positive attitude, 2186 01:28:01,820 --> 01:28:04,154 because I don't expect a positive attitude from Gordon. 2187 01:28:04,154 --> 01:28:05,070 I mean, let's face it. 2188 01:28:05,070 --> 01:28:07,111 I honestly thought that was you playing the lead. 2189 01:28:07,111 --> 01:28:09,660 I was like well, he definitely got pretty damn good. 2190 01:28:12,430 --> 01:28:15,490 It sounds like it needs a lot of work in the songwriting 2191 01:28:15,490 --> 01:28:16,470 department to me. 2192 01:28:16,470 --> 01:28:21,150 It sounds, for lack of a better term, generic. 2193 01:28:21,150 --> 01:28:24,140 I know that not everybody is going to love what we do. 2194 01:28:24,140 --> 01:28:26,240 I mean, music is really subjective. 2195 01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:28,960 It reaches you, or it doesn't. 2196 01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:31,100 If you would have gave us a different answer 2197 01:28:31,100 --> 01:28:33,235 a while back of joining up with us, 2198 01:28:33,235 --> 01:28:35,443 could you have seen yourself playing stuff like this? 2199 01:28:36,369 --> 01:28:38,684 Uhhhhh . 2200 01:28:41,701 --> 01:28:42,200 OK. 2201 01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:43,430 So what do you want to work on, man? 2202 01:28:43,430 --> 01:28:43,930 Talk to me. 2203 01:28:43,930 --> 01:28:45,570 Let's just go through the songs. 2204 01:28:45,570 --> 01:28:47,709 So Tony came back into the picture. 2205 01:28:47,709 --> 01:28:48,208 Hey. 2206 01:28:48,208 --> 01:28:48,805 This is Tony. 2207 01:28:48,805 --> 01:28:50,600 Leave a message, and I'll get back to you. 2208 01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,710 We hugged it out first off, and I pulled him aside. 2209 01:28:53,710 --> 01:28:56,810 And before I could utter a word he's like man, I'm sorry. 2210 01:28:56,810 --> 01:28:58,680 I had just moved to Denver, and I just 2211 01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:00,640 hadn't had my life sorted out yet. 2212 01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,640 And it's a year later, and now I do. 2213 01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:04,470 Yeah, let's rock. 2214 01:29:04,470 --> 01:29:07,090 OK. 2215 01:29:07,090 --> 01:29:10,060 I have no doubt that he's going to follow through on this. 2216 01:29:10,060 --> 01:29:10,670 He's excited. 2217 01:29:10,670 --> 01:29:11,780 I'm telling you right now. 2218 01:29:11,780 --> 01:29:14,170 I texted Tony this morning to give him directions 2219 01:29:14,170 --> 01:29:20,650 to the rehearsal studio, and oh, I can't make it. 2220 01:29:20,650 --> 01:29:23,530 The cancellation thing-- it can't happen anymore. 2221 01:29:23,530 --> 01:29:26,430 So once again, Tony didn't work out, which really sucks. 2222 01:29:26,430 --> 01:29:27,960 --get caught up later though, huh? 2223 01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:28,250 Yeah. 2224 01:29:28,250 --> 01:29:30,875 This thing is fucking falling apart before it's even started, 2225 01:29:30,875 --> 01:29:32,390 and I don't get it. 2226 01:29:32,390 --> 01:29:34,910 Through all the twists and turns that we've gone through 2227 01:29:34,910 --> 01:29:38,190 and the ups and downs, it's a huge crossroads right 2228 01:29:38,190 --> 01:29:39,310 now of what's next. 2229 01:29:39,310 --> 01:29:41,340 We know what we want to be next. 2230 01:29:41,340 --> 01:29:44,470 We got to bring all the pieces together, 2231 01:29:44,470 --> 01:29:45,880 and we've got to do a gig. 2232 01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:50,090 Getting that to happen has proven harder than it sounds. 2233 01:29:50,090 --> 01:29:51,796 Eric, Kyle Kruger calling. 2234 01:29:51,796 --> 01:29:53,620 Who is this? 2235 01:29:53,620 --> 01:29:56,895 I just wanted to check in with you, see if there was any news. 2236 01:29:56,895 --> 01:29:59,370 At the tone, please record your message. 2237 01:29:59,370 --> 01:29:59,995 [PHONE RINGING] 2238 01:29:59,995 --> 01:30:01,828 The guy said he was going to call me Friday. 2239 01:30:01,828 --> 01:30:03,432 He's never even responded to me. 2240 01:30:03,432 --> 01:30:04,140 It's a done deal. 2241 01:30:04,140 --> 01:30:05,098 They want it to happen. 2242 01:30:05,098 --> 01:30:06,831 We'll make this happen. 2243 01:30:06,831 --> 01:30:08,080 I'm going to make this happen. 2244 01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:09,597 You can count us in, man. 2245 01:30:09,597 --> 01:30:10,680 We're going to have a gig. 2246 01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:11,555 It's going to happen. 2247 01:30:11,555 --> 01:30:12,431 We don't have a gig. 2248 01:30:12,431 --> 01:30:15,020 Damn it. 2249 01:30:15,020 --> 01:30:16,890 If you're passionate about it, you'll always 2250 01:30:16,890 --> 01:30:18,610 find a way to make it work. 2251 01:30:18,610 --> 01:30:20,530 Money doesn't matter. 2252 01:30:20,530 --> 01:30:21,780 Hardships don't matter. 2253 01:30:21,780 --> 01:30:23,350 It's all about the journey. 2254 01:30:23,350 --> 01:30:26,190 If you've called me up and said hi, we've never played before, 2255 01:30:26,190 --> 01:30:28,689 but we're really good, and here's our CD, I'll say great. 2256 01:30:28,689 --> 01:30:30,480 Let me know when you've been playing around 2257 01:30:30,480 --> 01:30:31,271 for a couple years. 2258 01:30:31,271 --> 01:30:32,900 Give me a call again some other time, 2259 01:30:32,900 --> 01:30:35,430 because you're not going to be able to create 2260 01:30:35,430 --> 01:30:37,450 a draw if you haven't played. 2261 01:30:37,450 --> 01:30:39,870 Chances of you guys getting to play Dallas, 2262 01:30:39,870 --> 01:30:43,170 and Portland, and Denver, and Minneapolis, and New York, 2263 01:30:43,170 --> 01:30:45,480 and New Jersey, cards are massively 2264 01:30:45,480 --> 01:30:47,980 stacked against you that you're not going to get to do that. 2265 01:30:47,980 --> 01:30:51,390 Chances of you guys getting to go on tour in a tour bus? 2266 01:30:51,390 --> 01:30:52,610 Not going to happen. 2267 01:30:52,610 --> 01:30:55,920 Three guys at a Shoney's on a Tuesday night acoustic 2268 01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:57,520 wouldn't be your dream gig. 2269 01:30:57,520 --> 01:30:58,910 You want to go play in Europe? 2270 01:30:58,910 --> 01:31:00,140 It's not going to happen. 2271 01:31:00,140 --> 01:31:03,370 So you're going to let us be your opening act then? 2272 01:31:03,370 --> 01:31:05,150 Probably not. 2273 01:31:05,150 --> 01:31:06,149 No. 2274 01:31:06,149 --> 01:31:09,362 [LAUGHING] 2275 01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:12,310 No. 2276 01:31:12,310 --> 01:31:14,720 I get asked all the time, can we open for you guys? 2277 01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:15,590 I don't know them. 2278 01:31:15,590 --> 01:31:18,040 Have to go research the sound, look at the band. 2279 01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:19,351 I haven't got time for that. 2280 01:31:19,351 --> 01:31:19,850 Yeah. 2281 01:31:19,850 --> 01:31:20,850 So that's a no then? 2282 01:31:20,850 --> 01:31:23,312 We're damned if we do, and we're damned if we don't. 2283 01:31:23,312 --> 01:31:24,770 We don't have a band without a gig. 2284 01:31:24,770 --> 01:31:26,510 We don't have a gig without a band. 2285 01:31:26,510 --> 01:31:31,222 What do we do to get ourselves prepared for when this happens? 2286 01:31:31,222 --> 01:31:33,430 Because I'm not looking at it if it doesn't scenario. 2287 01:31:33,430 --> 01:31:35,230 I'm looking at the when it does. 2288 01:31:35,230 --> 01:31:37,460 [PHONE RINGING] 2289 01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:41,000 Let's talk about what do you want to do 2290 01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:42,495 and what we can provide. 2291 01:31:42,495 --> 01:31:44,370 It was the phone call we've been waiting for. 2292 01:31:44,370 --> 01:31:46,426 Do you know what I'm saying-- forever. 2293 01:31:46,426 --> 01:31:47,300 I'd love to have you. 2294 01:31:47,300 --> 01:31:48,341 I love what you're doing. 2295 01:31:48,341 --> 01:31:50,090 I think that's awesome. 2296 01:31:50,090 --> 01:31:53,703 And it takes so much courage-- not just the idea, 2297 01:31:53,703 --> 01:31:56,420 but everything else you'd have to do with that. 2298 01:31:56,420 --> 01:31:57,830 So is this going to happen? 2299 01:31:57,830 --> 01:31:58,875 I think so, yeah. 2300 01:31:58,875 --> 01:32:00,516 Oh, shit. 2301 01:32:00,516 --> 01:32:03,700 I guess I better practice. 2302 01:32:03,700 --> 01:32:06,750 It has been three weeks since the conversation first 2303 01:32:06,750 --> 01:32:09,160 took place, and we've heard nothing back. 2304 01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:11,640 We still have not received a confirmation, 2305 01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:15,740 and we still have not received a confirmation. 2306 01:32:15,740 --> 01:32:18,070 Nothing, not a word. 2307 01:32:18,070 --> 01:32:20,660 We haven't heard anything from anybody. 2308 01:32:20,660 --> 01:32:24,720 Since I have not heard no, and I'm still e-mailing. 2309 01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:27,010 It's been five weeks since we've had any contact. 2310 01:32:27,010 --> 01:32:29,290 We haven't heard back from anybody. 2311 01:32:29,290 --> 01:32:30,570 It ain't happening. 2312 01:32:30,570 --> 01:32:32,660 So I'm holding out hope that we're somehow 2313 01:32:32,660 --> 01:32:35,340 going to end up on that boat, and that we're 2314 01:32:35,340 --> 01:32:36,225 going to do that gig. 2315 01:32:36,225 --> 01:32:39,328 I've got to start working on a Plan B, just in case. 2316 01:32:39,328 --> 01:32:42,564 [MUSIC - CLEAVAGE, "I GOT THE GUN" ] 2317 01:32:43,430 --> 01:32:46,910 What do you think the viability of booking a serious gig? 2318 01:32:46,910 --> 01:32:49,080 Maybe an undercard. 2319 01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:50,060 You see that? 2320 01:32:50,060 --> 01:32:51,510 Sure. 2321 01:32:51,510 --> 01:32:52,530 Yep. 2322 01:32:52,530 --> 01:32:54,210 I see no reason why not. 2323 01:32:54,210 --> 01:32:57,874 So we have a show with no band yet. 2324 01:32:57,874 --> 01:32:58,540 He's like, look. 2325 01:32:58,540 --> 01:33:00,420 He goes you can bring in people, I'll 2326 01:33:00,420 --> 01:33:02,315 make you guys direct support, meaning he'll 2327 01:33:02,315 --> 01:33:03,910 put us on right before Jake. 2328 01:33:03,910 --> 01:33:05,730 Its opening for Jake E. Lee. 2329 01:33:05,730 --> 01:33:06,300 Oh, we're in. 2330 01:33:06,300 --> 01:33:07,560 It's our gig, man. 2331 01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:09,614 So we're recruiting a band. 2332 01:33:09,614 --> 01:33:10,780 We're getting guys together. 2333 01:33:10,780 --> 01:33:16,604 We're working on filling out that lineup. 2334 01:33:16,604 --> 01:33:18,312 Got a guy by the name of Scott Parker who 2335 01:33:18,312 --> 01:33:22,100 has been pretty diligent about wanting to be attached somehow. 2336 01:33:22,100 --> 01:33:23,862 He's a bass player. 2337 01:33:23,862 --> 01:33:28,730 So he went out and found this guy, Rich Carlson who 2338 01:33:28,730 --> 01:33:30,580 is purported to be one of the best drummers 2339 01:33:30,580 --> 01:33:33,810 in the state of Colorado. 2340 01:33:33,810 --> 01:33:36,820 But the name of the band-- is there a name for a band? 2341 01:33:36,820 --> 01:33:38,474 So we landed on a band name. 2342 01:33:38,474 --> 01:33:39,890 It's called Bullet In The Chamber. 2343 01:33:39,890 --> 01:33:40,806 Bullet In The Chamber. 2344 01:33:40,806 --> 01:33:42,840 That sounds like a Pantera heavy band. 2345 01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:43,340 Yeah. 2346 01:33:43,340 --> 01:33:43,760 So yeah. 2347 01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:46,280 Bullet In The Chamber is going to open for Jake E. Lee's Red 2348 01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:48,626 Dragon Cartel here in Denver. 2349 01:33:48,626 --> 01:33:52,350 If there's an upside to doing this gig locally now, 2350 01:33:52,350 --> 01:33:55,220 Steve and I are at least going to be able to rehearse and get 2351 01:33:55,220 --> 01:33:56,520 our act together. 2352 01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:58,540 Off to band practice. 2353 01:33:58,540 --> 01:34:02,620 That's a phrase I haven't uttered in over 25 years. 2354 01:34:02,620 --> 01:34:06,430 [Music - BULLET IN THE CHAMBER, "EYES ON FIRE"] 2355 01:34:06,430 --> 01:34:10,084 So all four of us are getting together to see how it goes. 2356 01:34:10,084 --> 01:34:12,250 And then if everybody's comfortable with each other, 2357 01:34:12,250 --> 01:34:13,725 then we're going to move forward, 2358 01:34:13,725 --> 01:34:15,725 and these guys will be part of the lineup 2359 01:34:15,725 --> 01:34:19,828 that we field for this gig with Jake E. Lee. 2360 01:34:19,828 --> 01:34:20,535 All right, man. 2361 01:34:20,535 --> 01:34:22,160 I don't think we took that long though. 2362 01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:24,464 We can't go outside for a guitar player. 2363 01:34:24,464 --> 01:34:26,047 We've got to find somebody who's here. 2364 01:34:28,790 --> 01:34:31,310 And then we found Stu. 2365 01:34:31,310 --> 01:34:32,640 Killer local guitar player. 2366 01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:35,986 Has a great reputation around town. 2367 01:34:35,986 --> 01:34:37,360 So now we have the band together. 2368 01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:39,030 We've just got to learn the songs. 2369 01:34:39,030 --> 01:34:40,910 2, 3, 4. 2370 01:34:43,652 --> 01:34:44,800 2, 3, 4. 2371 01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:46,810 Our challenge now is that now that we're 2372 01:34:46,810 --> 01:34:50,010 getting ready to play, we have a limited window 2373 01:34:50,010 --> 01:34:51,584 in which to execute this. 2374 01:34:51,584 --> 01:34:53,208 Since we're going to start again, let's 2375 01:34:53,208 --> 01:34:54,670 identify parts with it, all right? 2376 01:34:54,670 --> 01:34:56,015 And it goes eight times. 2377 01:34:56,015 --> 01:34:58,100 It stays on the A. 2378 01:34:58,100 --> 01:34:59,800 You guys are going to all go to 3/4? 2379 01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:00,764 Yeah. 2380 01:35:00,764 --> 01:35:04,620 [MUSIC- BULLET IN THE CHAMBER, "GRIN"] 2381 01:35:16,596 --> 01:35:18,080 Trying to hang in there, man. 2382 01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:19,969 I'm hoping it's going to go OK. 2383 01:35:19,969 --> 01:35:21,760 I think with just a couple more rehearsals, 2384 01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:22,801 we should be ready to go. 2385 01:35:22,801 --> 01:35:24,250 Think we're going to pull it off? 2386 01:35:24,250 --> 01:35:26,810 We're going to have to, right? 2387 01:35:26,810 --> 01:35:29,780 Well, after not playing for 25 years, let me see. 2388 01:35:29,780 --> 01:35:31,390 What are you going to be in for? 2389 01:35:31,390 --> 01:35:33,340 You have to really dig down deep, 2390 01:35:33,340 --> 01:35:35,090 and you have to really get it together, 2391 01:35:35,090 --> 01:35:36,470 or else you're going to come out on stage, 2392 01:35:36,470 --> 01:35:37,300 and you're going to suck. 2393 01:35:37,300 --> 01:35:39,341 And then that's going to be the worst thing ever. 2394 01:35:39,341 --> 01:35:41,450 It's going to be complete insanity. 2395 01:35:41,450 --> 01:35:43,710 Nothing but insanity. 2396 01:35:43,710 --> 01:35:45,730 That's what they have to do, right? 2397 01:35:45,730 --> 01:35:46,230 Yeah. 2398 01:35:46,230 --> 01:35:47,050 Wait a minute. 2399 01:35:47,050 --> 01:35:49,201 You've got to tap your foot when you play. 2400 01:35:49,201 --> 01:35:49,700 Sure. 2401 01:35:49,700 --> 01:35:51,200 And bob your head just a little bit. 2402 01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:51,760 Yeah. 2403 01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:52,810 Feel the groove. 2404 01:35:52,810 --> 01:35:54,330 Yeah, because you want everybody in the audience 2405 01:35:54,330 --> 01:35:55,150 tapping their foot. 2406 01:35:55,150 --> 01:35:56,274 Oh, I'm giving them advice? 2407 01:35:56,274 --> 01:35:56,834 Yes, advice. 2408 01:35:56,834 --> 01:35:58,250 The whole thing's advice for them. 2409 01:35:58,250 --> 01:35:59,335 It has nothing to do with us. 2410 01:35:59,335 --> 01:36:00,620 It has nothing to do with us. 2411 01:36:00,620 --> 01:36:02,120 See, I didn't know that. 2412 01:36:07,660 --> 01:36:11,280 My expectations for this gig, the biggest 2413 01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:14,080 stage possible, in front of the biggest audience, 2414 01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:15,580 with the biggest PA, and the biggest 2415 01:36:15,580 --> 01:36:17,790 lights that we can muster. 2416 01:36:17,790 --> 01:36:18,540 Check, check. 2417 01:36:18,540 --> 01:36:20,290 1, 2, 3, check. 2418 01:36:20,290 --> 01:36:21,790 Is it time for lunch yet? 2419 01:36:21,790 --> 01:36:23,429 What time does catering get here? 2420 01:36:23,429 --> 01:36:24,220 Does the food come? 2421 01:36:24,220 --> 01:36:25,000 Is it pizza? 2422 01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:26,490 Or what did we get, sandwiches? 2423 01:36:26,490 --> 01:36:29,190 Well, I think we want to play in front of some people, 2424 01:36:29,190 --> 01:36:30,330 first and foremost. 2425 01:36:30,330 --> 01:36:32,980 We don't want to be at the dive bar down the street. 2426 01:36:32,980 --> 01:36:34,712 That's not what this is about. 2427 01:36:34,712 --> 01:36:36,215 We're going to do great. 2428 01:36:36,215 --> 01:36:37,256 It's going to be awesome. 2429 01:36:37,256 --> 01:36:38,880 All right. 2430 01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:41,310 Some things only happen once in life. 2431 01:36:41,310 --> 01:36:44,700 First things, last things, and these things. 2432 01:36:44,700 --> 01:36:51,148 So please, give me a warm Denver welcome Bullet In The Chamber! 2433 01:36:51,148 --> 01:36:55,132 [MUSIC - BULLET IN THE CHAMBER, "HOLD MY HEAD DOWN"] 2434 01:37:10,072 --> 01:37:15,052 (SINGING) So you think I'm not afraid. 2435 01:37:15,052 --> 01:37:19,036 You think I've got it made. 2436 01:37:19,036 --> 01:37:23,020 And all the things you hate 2437 01:37:23,020 --> 01:37:26,506 mean everything to me. 2438 01:37:26,506 --> 01:37:31,486 Try to live inside your world but then 2439 01:37:31,486 --> 01:37:34,474 nobody told me about 2440 01:37:34,474 --> 01:37:36,964 the feeling was so strange. 2441 01:37:40,948 --> 01:37:44,932 So strange. 2442 01:37:44,932 --> 01:37:48,418 As the light, it fades away, 2443 01:37:48,418 --> 01:37:52,402 and the night won't turn to day, 2444 01:37:52,402 --> 01:37:56,386 I hold my head down in my hands. 2445 01:37:56,386 --> 01:37:58,378 Why can't I see? 2446 01:37:58,378 --> 01:37:59,872 I don't understand. 2447 01:38:03,856 --> 01:38:11,824 You didn't know how far to go 2448 01:38:11,824 --> 01:38:15,808 You tell me nothing's wrong. 2449 01:38:15,808 --> 01:38:20,788 Just leave you alone. 2450 01:38:20,788 --> 01:38:23,278 Leave you alone! 2451 01:38:30,748 --> 01:38:34,234 [ELECTRIC GUITAR SOLO] 2452 01:38:44,692 --> 01:38:48,676 Then you you cry me a river 2453 01:38:48,676 --> 01:38:54,652 while you hold my head down under. 2454 01:38:54,652 --> 01:38:58,810 When the light fades away, 2455 01:38:58,810 --> 01:39:02,310 and the night won't turn to day, 2456 01:39:02,310 --> 01:39:06,690 I hold my head down in my hands. 2457 01:39:06,690 --> 01:39:08,387 Why can't I see? 2458 01:39:08,387 --> 01:39:10,570 I don't understand. 2459 01:39:10,570 --> 01:39:15,022 As our time, it wastes away, 2460 01:39:15,022 --> 01:39:18,494 and there's nothing left to say. 2461 01:39:18,494 --> 01:39:22,462 I hold my head down in the sand. 2462 01:39:22,462 --> 01:39:24,446 Why can't I breathe? 2463 01:39:24,446 --> 01:39:25,934 I don't understand. 2464 01:39:37,838 --> 01:39:41,806 [CHEERING] 2465 01:39:41,806 --> 01:39:45,774 [INSTRUMENTAL] 2466 01:39:49,246 --> 01:39:52,718 (SINGING) Tell you nothing's wrong. 2467 01:39:52,718 --> 01:39:57,182 Just leave me alone. 2468 01:39:57,182 --> 01:39:59,166 [CHEERING] 2469 01:39:59,166 --> 01:40:00,654 Two guys living their dream. 2470 01:40:00,654 --> 01:40:03,432 You and Steve doing your thing, and even if it was just 2471 01:40:03,432 --> 01:40:05,090 for little glimmer in the spotlight, 2472 01:40:05,090 --> 01:40:07,827 it was still you guys doing it, and that's pretty bad ass. 2473 01:40:07,827 --> 01:40:11,819 [MUSIC - TUFF, "AMERICAN HAIRBAND"] 2474 01:40:30,282 --> 01:40:32,777 Monsters of Rock Cruise, how are you doing? 2475 01:40:32,777 --> 01:40:33,775 Woo! 2476 01:40:33,775 --> 01:40:37,162 My name is Kyle Kruger, and this is my buddy, Steve McClure, 2477 01:40:37,162 --> 01:40:39,120 and we're making a film called Hair I Go Again. 2478 01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:40,670 And basically, it's a documentary 2479 01:40:40,670 --> 01:40:43,580 about us hitting that mid-life crisis and deciding, 2480 01:40:43,580 --> 01:40:44,920 you know what, man? 2481 01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:47,270 Let's go play some music instead of working regular jobs 2482 01:40:47,270 --> 01:40:48,900 and see if we can pull it off. 2483 01:40:48,900 --> 01:40:51,080 [CHEERING] 2484 01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:52,235 So here we are. 2485 01:40:52,235 --> 01:40:58,175 (SINGING) All the feeling is gone again. 2486 01:40:58,175 --> 01:40:59,655 Just don't suck, man. 2487 01:40:59,655 --> 01:41:00,155 Yep. 2488 01:41:00,155 --> 01:41:01,321 Oh well god, that's the key. 2489 01:41:01,321 --> 01:41:02,630 Bullet In The Chamber on three. 2490 01:41:02,630 --> 01:41:03,255 All right, man. 2491 01:41:03,255 --> 01:41:04,610 1, 2, 3. 2492 01:41:04,610 --> 01:41:05,600 Bullet In The Chamber! 2493 01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:13,520 (SINGING) Gone Again Rewind the reel! 2494 01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:16,490 [CHEERING] 2495 01:41:16,490 --> 01:41:17,975 Thanks, guys. 2496 01:41:17,975 --> 01:41:20,450 [CHEERING] 2497 01:41:20,450 --> 01:41:23,915 [MUSIC - TUFF, "AMERICAN HAIRBAND"] 2498 01:41:31,340 --> 01:41:34,062 If you can take two people and put them 2499 01:41:34,062 --> 01:41:38,270 as far apart on the polar spectrum as you can get them, 2500 01:41:38,270 --> 01:41:39,800 that would be you and Kyle. 2501 01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:43,596 What's it like to finally get to this point with your old buddy, 2502 01:41:43,596 --> 01:41:47,100 McClure, who you guys have been through hell and back with? 2503 01:41:47,100 --> 01:41:49,600 Love him like a brother, but ready for a long vacation. 2504 01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:52,600 Since we're in New Orleans, I bought a voodoo doll in hopes 2505 01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:56,190 that I can get it to keep Kyle quiet for five minutes. 2506 01:41:56,190 --> 01:41:58,020 So there have been times when I'm just 2507 01:41:58,020 --> 01:42:01,220 like, I don't understand how these two can possibly 2508 01:42:01,220 --> 01:42:02,420 have been friends this long. 2509 01:42:02,420 --> 01:42:04,965 I'm going to have to cut off the sleeves though on the shirt 2510 01:42:04,965 --> 01:42:07,137 to make it like Kyle. 2511 01:42:07,137 --> 01:42:10,630 [MUSIC - TUFF, "AMERICAN HAIRBAND"] 2512 01:42:17,113 --> 01:42:19,113 [MUSIC - BULLET IN THE CHAMBER, "EYES ON FIRE"] 2513 01:42:34,582 --> 01:42:38,574 Stare, all I do 2514 01:42:38,574 --> 01:42:43,065 is stare. 2515 01:42:43,065 --> 01:42:48,554 Can't you see the fire in my eyes? 2516 01:42:52,047 --> 01:43:00,031 Everynight I see your fate so scarred and in decay. 2517 01:43:00,031 --> 01:43:07,516 Breathing your last breath when smoke gets in the way. 2518 01:43:07,516 --> 01:43:11,508 Can't escape from my eyes, no you cant hide. 2519 01:43:11,508 --> 01:43:15,999 Everywhere you turn I'll be there. 2520 01:43:15,999 --> 01:43:20,490 Tell me now who's loathing most 2521 01:43:20,490 --> 01:43:21,488 and all I'll do... 2522 01:43:21,488 --> 01:43:23,983 All I'll do is stare! 2523 01:43:23,983 --> 01:43:26,478 Eyes on fire. 2524 01:43:26,478 --> 01:43:32,466 Broken windows to a soul. 2525 01:43:32,466 --> 01:43:40,949 Suffer the burns of a lie again (a lie again). 2526 01:43:40,949 --> 01:43:43,943 Eyes on fire. 2527 01:43:43,943 --> 01:43:48,434 Ashes fall but who's to blame? 2528 01:43:48,434 --> 01:43:50,430 We both conspired, 2529 01:43:50,430 --> 01:43:53,923 when we should have healed, 2530 01:43:53,923 --> 01:43:57,915 But all we did was harm. 2531 01:43:57,915 --> 01:44:02,406 And everywhere I turn, 2532 01:44:02,406 --> 01:44:04,402 there's something in the air. 2533 01:44:04,402 --> 01:44:07,895 I can't explain. 2534 01:44:07,895 --> 01:44:11,388 I need the heat to feed the pain. 2535 01:44:11,388 --> 01:44:20,370 It goes on and on and on. 2536 01:44:20,370 --> 01:45:02,286 [GUITAR SOLO]. 2537 01:45:02,286 --> 01:45:04,282 Eyes on fire. 2538 01:45:04,282 --> 01:45:10,270 Stained glass windows save us all (Save us all). 2539 01:45:10,270 --> 01:45:18,254 I suffered the burns of a lie, again and again and again. 2540 01:45:18,254 --> 01:45:21,248 Eyes on fire. 2541 01:45:21,248 --> 01:45:26,238 Ashes fall lit up in flames. 2542 01:45:26,238 --> 01:45:29,731 I tripped the wire, 2543 01:45:29,731 --> 01:45:31,727 couldn't stand the pain. 2544 01:45:31,727 --> 01:45:35,220 And now I lay disarmed. 2545 01:45:35,220 --> 01:45:41,707 (Eyes on fire) Eyes on fire. 2546 01:45:41,707 --> 01:45:47,196 Stare, all I do is stare. 2547 01:45:47,196 --> 01:45:50,190 Yeah. 2548 01:45:50,190 --> 01:45:54,182 Can't you see the fire? (Can't you see the fire) 2549 01:45:54,182 --> 01:45:58,174 Can't you see the fire? 2550 01:45:58,174 --> 01:46:02,166 Can't you see the fire? (Can't you see the fire) 2551 01:46:02,166 --> 01:46:06,158 Can't you see the fire? 2552 01:46:06,158 --> 01:46:11,148 Can't you see the fire in my eyes? 2553 01:46:11,148 --> 01:46:14,641 Can't you see the fire in my eyes? 2554 01:46:14,641 --> 01:46:18,633 Can't you see the fire? (Can't you see the fire) 2555 01:46:18,633 --> 01:46:19,631 Can't you see the fire? 2556 01:46:22,166 --> 01:46:22,832 All right ready? 2557 01:46:22,832 --> 01:46:24,380 We are ready. 2558 01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:29,180 Ahhhhh! 2559 01:46:29,180 --> 01:46:30,730 Shit. 174358

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