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I dunno, that's a good
question, who would be,

what would the general
populous be more skeptical of,

Bigfoot or aliens?

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[Matt] If I ever get
abducted by aliens,

I'm gonna ask them what's
the deal with Bigfoot?

[Man] Careful now,
Bigfoot, no question,

but I'm definitely more

tailored to the
fascinated by Ufology.

[Alan] There is something
that those people are drawn to.

[soft music]

I love exploring that plane,

its color,

its

joy

its mystery and living
in that mystery.

[Jeffrey] I really
think that it's okay

that people go out in
search for these things

and wanna know more about
life beyond where we are.

[Alan] There's
something there.

I really think people
who go in search of Bigfoot

and I think people who
go in search of aliens

I think they're very
similar and here's why.

A lot of people who studied

and there are people
who take just simply

a scholarly academic approach
to the study of the unknown,

and that's what
science is all about.

If you have a question that
you don't know the answer to,

you have a hypothesis,

you test that
hypothesis with evidence

and if your hypothesis
proves to be untrue,

you come back and
you re-hypothesis.

It was "Harry
and the Hendersons"

the movie "Harry
and the Hendersons"

that really sparked
my interest in Bigfoot

and similarly to "E.T."

which sparked my interest in
extra terrestrials, right,

there was this infusion of love,

of tenderness, of kindness
in both of those films

and so, from the
earliest age my interest

in anything paranormal,
extra terrestrial in origin

was grounded in this idea that

perhaps there are
species out there

yet undiscovered or proven
to exist in the mainstream

that

are not caged and restricted

by the same kind of shortcomings
that human beings have.

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The biggest difference between
cryptozoology and Ufology

whether it's doing research,

speaking at conferences,
lectures, TV shows,

things like that,

the biggest difference is
that a lot of UFO research

is sort of historical
going through files,

speaking with witnesses.

Cryptozoology, because it's
the study of unknown animals,

there's a great deal of
research done out in the field

in forests, in woods,
in lakes, mountains,

So, cryptozoology
lends it more to

expeditions and
being on the road

whereas Ufology is
scrutinizing cases

and documents and files.

So, one is very much
outdoors, another one is

pouring over material,
that kind of thing.

So, there's definitely a
little bit of a difference

I think, between the UFO
and Bigfoot community.

Bigfoot community tends to
be a little more grounded,

a lot of these guys,

there's just guys only
about in the woods,

they're pretty down to earth

and they know the animals,
they know their species,

you know, they just
either I've had when

I've seen something unusual
they can't explain, you know,

they don't think
of it in terms of

I think so much in terms of
like anthropology or biology,

a lot of these guys
'cause these guys,

some of these guys are
hunters or they're just

guys that live out in the woods

and they're pretty
regular people.

It doesn't attract as
many crazy people to

or let's say delusional,
to be honest, you know,

as the UFO field
does and it's not as,

there's less politics.

I think especially today,

the UFO field is very
politically motivated,

you know, everything,

it's been hijacked
a little bit by

some group of people that

where the UFOs are
coming second behind

the worship of certain
politicians or,

you know, it gets tied up
with like a QAnon phenomena

which I personally think
is utterly ridiculous.

So, there's a lot more
conspiracy theories out there

that I think are kind of
going off the deep end

and then attracts a
lot of those guys.

Yeah, it's interesting 'cause

there is not much cultural
crossover between the alien fans,

the ancient alien fans,

the conspiracy theorists
about governments and

stuff like that,

the Bigfoot people,
the ghost people

and there really should because

basically we're all
the same in the sense,

if you put us all together,

you'd have a really,
really massive block

of voters and political
activists because

we're all people that
recognize in one way or another

that the world that we're
presented on TV is not reality,

that there is a much
deeper, maybe darker,

but certainly more interesting
reality that we exist in

than what we're sold every day.

There's a lot more
things going on than just

who's gonna win the Super Bowl?

The Chiefs by the way.

You know, there's more
stuff going on than that

and the, you know,

the impeachment farce
that's going on right now,

it's all for show and it's
all to keep us distracted

from the ghosts and the Bigfoots

and the things that don't fit

and the aliens and
the ancient aliens,

just to keep us from really
focusing on the truth

because if we did focus on
that, we might get distracted

and not really think
it was that important

to go to work tomorrow

and that's what keeps the
engine of civilization running.

We had a fascinating
conversation with Mike Bara

on the way up the mountain.

He was tired, this
is before this whole

virus thing came
out and he started,

he was saying that, yeah, I
got an insider CIA guy that

has said that we have a virus

that targets certain
ethnic groups

and the whole, everybody in
the truck we're just like,

what are you talking about?

And it's right as the whole
thing was gonna breaking free

but it doesn't look
like that was the,

it just started in China
or whatever, but it was,

that's, you know, you get
all kinds of insider info

from these guys and then

when they say they
got a contact,

it's hard not to, you know.

I really think that it's okay

that people go out in
search for these things

and wanna know more about space

and wanna know more about
life beyond where we are.

We have predilections
to violence,

to disorder,

vengeance, anger, hatred,
all these things and

when I saw those movies
when I was a child,

I thought, what if there really
is a species out there that

was kind and
compassionate and they

were not a species of
of war or conflict?

There are scientific
species, right?

Like "E.T." the
extra terrestrial

or "Harry and the Hendersons"

that maybe all these
setting's a Bigfoot which

keep their distance
for the most part,

Sasquatch or Yeti.

That they're intelligent
enough to stay away from us

because maybe

they don't wanna get
involved with our conflicts

and they can see how
aggressive we can be,

not that we always are,

but we have people out
there that are actually

with guns hunting for Bigfoot

which I just think
is absolutely absurd

and I highly, highly condemn it.

It really just ticks me off
that people would do that

because there's just
not enough good evidence

that I've seen, that
Bigfoot or Sasquatch is

aggressive and violent
towards human beings.

They may be at times
confrontational

in that they approach and come
close to us, to eyewitnesses,

but that does not justify

looking for a trophy just to
prove that some species exists,

because again, for me,

it's something more
meta, it's bigger.

The search for
strange creatures or

extraterrestrials visiting here,

whatever you're searching
for, for me it all means

something much bigger
than ourselves.

For me, that's one
of the main reasons why

I kind of, like cryptozoology
in many ways more than Ufology

because I enjoy the sort of

road trip expedition
aspect of it,

hitting the road and
potentially, you know,

staking out to the Lake

where something has been
seen for seven days.

You know, for me, that's
more exciting than just

pouring over something

that's been released on the
Freedom of Information Act

from 50 years ago, which is
really still cool material

but I kind of liked that sort of

pitching the road angle more
than anything else, yeah.

Personally, I think both

UFO's and Bigfoot are
equally believable

but for different reasons.

I think because the UFO
phenomena, we have so much

evidence now, I
don't wanna say proof

'cause we don't have the
smoking gun, you know,

but obviously
recently we've seen

various governments
including ours

have admitted to the
fact that there are

flying objects out there
they can't explain.

We have a paper trail, you
know, that for example,

John Greenwald at
the black vault

has been able to dig up

that talk about UFO's
from official capacity

in the US government.

Other governments
around the world

have admitted to the fact that
yeah, these things fly around

we have a plethora of
footage at this point,

I mean, granted, a
lot of it's fake,

but the plethora of
good footage, pictures,

accounts, you know,
throughout the entire world

so, there's a lot
there, you know,

with Bigfoot, we have
much less, I think and,

but on the other hand,

10 years ago I would say

UFO's are more
believable than Bigfoot

but since we've, all
that we know now about

the fossil record and

much for the backroom
back through genetics

have proven that
something like Bigfoot

not only could exist,
but did exist, you know

a bunch of times the
last few million years.

So, if it was possible then,

certainly there's no reason
for it not to be possible now,

the only question is

whether it could stay
hidden in the modern world.

Definitely, I mean, Bigfoot,
no question, it's out there,

but I'm definitely more

tailored to be fascinated by

Ufology and

the technology and.

I have no problem
whatsoever with a person

who wants to know or go out
and investigate whether or not

there's life beyond
our solar system?

I don't know how you do that.

[bright soft music]

I have through
my involvement with

UFO research for
the government and

now I suppose, as

somebody who writes
and broadcasts on this,

I interact with
the UFO community.

I have a good
knowledge, I suppose, of

Ufology for want
of a better word,

I know that there
are other mysteries,

other fields of study,

so, we have, for example,

all sorts of anomalous creatures
seen all around the world

monsters and

I suppose most
famously Bigfoot, say,

and you have the whole
cryptozoological community.

I suspect there are

similarities and differences
between those communities.

Well, I've been interested in,

yeah, I guess a lot
of different things,

but to see the intertwining

of the Ufology.

Ufology, we have that subject

but when you start
going down that road

and you start opening that box,

it's literally Pandora's box

because you will
discover as I have,

what is reality?

What are we doing here?

Why, what is a human being?

What is the purpose
of our existence?

You know, all of these
big, big questions

you ask and you go
deeper and you go deeper

and you may find some answers,
you may find it, you know,

and it's very individualized,
but it's all interconnected.

So, ghosts, you know, you
mentioned Bigfoot earlier

you know, the indigenous
teachings, cultures,

but other religious
belief systems,

it's all connected and
it's all intertwined to

the bigger, greater story
of what is it to be human.

So, I think the
positive and negative

are two sides of the
same coin from both

cryptozoology and Ufology.

So, again, the
seeking, I think, is

a sort of mystical quest.

So, ghost hunters,
cryptozoologists, Ufologists,

whatever it is,

they are seeking
something that is bigger

than what conventional

thinking tells us our reality is

beyond our five senses and
science has teased us, right,

that the world is
so much bigger.

The universe is so much more
magical and diverse than

we may have imagined,

but it seems to me that our
imagination often drives

the search for answers.

We have to sort of
imagine what could be

before we can even seek it,

and so, the idea
that we can imagine

that there might
be these elementals

or spirits or ghosts or
Chupacabras or Bigfoot

that there might be
extra terrestrials

visiting our earth
from another planet,

that fills us with

a wonder that I
think just sort of

feeds the spirit of living,
that it makes life exciting and

in the search for that,

I think there is something
almost spiritual about it

and I think that is a
very positive thing.

Now, some people might,

like they use other
things to fill the void

but I think most people,

it's not a void that
they're filling,

it's just living the journey
of life and, you know,

going down the enigmatic
road of investigation

into the unknown
is something that

broadens the mind.

In some sense,
both communities would regard themselves

as somewhat fringe and are
regarded as somewhat fringe

and maybe eccentric
by, for example,

the mainstream
scientific community.

A lot of these people
might regard themselves as

outsiders, crusaders
for the truth in a

situation where
maybe they feel the

deck is stacked against them,

maybe from government,
media, scientific community,

whoever it might be.

The negative is that, yes,

sometimes people
can get obsessed

and any kind of obsession is,

you know, damaging

and unfortunately, I
think sometimes there are

researchers or individuals

who need more out of life than

what interest in Ufology or
cryptozoology can provide

and maybe they begin to

fill their investigations
with hyperbole

so that they can
get more attention.

Maybe they start to
take an experience and

embellish it too far, too much

and it's attention that
they need, it does happen.

So, there is that
negative side to it

and sometimes, yeah,
just like a religion or

a philosophy of any kind,

they might be using that
to fill some kind of void

in their soul and their
heart and their psyche.

I'm sure there
are some differences

between the communities but
there are some commonalities

too

and I think that's
very interesting.

It's whatever you believe
about UFOs, about Bigfoot,

I think actually, it would
be quite interesting almost

sociologically, to look
at those communities.

So, not looking so
much at UFOs or Bigfoot

but the people that study them

and research them and
maybe try to go out.

I mean, I don't know what the
difference is, for example,

between people that
go out on a sky watch

with binoculars and infrared
equipment, night vision goggles

and say the people
that hunt Bigfoot and

I suspect that

one common thread is

extreme dedication and
these things aren't easy.

They, you probably get

ridiculed and disbelieved

and you probably spend
a lot of cold wet nights

when it might be easier to

drink some beer and
watch the game, so,

it's an interesting question

about these
different communities

and as I say, I'm sure

there are some things
that bind them together

and other things
that set them apart.

I think by and
large, most people,

especially in the
paranormal community,

I love the people in the
paranormal community,

you know, it's just
part of my tribe

[laughs] as it were

and they're good people

and we are very
supportive of each other

and I really appreciate that

and there's a lot of
positive thinking.

So, I was into
the whole UFO thing

prior to being into Bigfoot.

My introduction was through
French comic book on aliens

but inside they had
like a story from Brazil

about little hairy monsters,
they're supposedly aliens.

So, when I saw another
book on a Yeti,

I kind of recognized
that model, you know,

from the earlier UFO book.

So, that got me interested,
it said, Yeti, I'm like,

Oh, it's kind like, you know,
this UFO story in Brazil

then obviously that went
onto its own path but.

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Even five years
ago, a UFO person,

Oh, those Bigfoot people they're
stuck up, they don't know.

You know, they're tracking
something, you know

we don't really care about them

and then the Bigfoot
people would be like,

no, those guys are
weird, you know,

I spend my weekends out
looking for a big hairy

bipedal ape or something, but
those UFO people are weird

and 'cause a lot of
Bigfoot researchers

and understandably so, very
scientific, very hard facts,

we want footprints,
we want photographs,

we want hair
samples, we want DNA.

We want sounds, we want
actual, tangible evidence

and UFO being a lot of

sightings and
encounters and hearsay,

having even less physical
evidence than UFO world,

there was always a departure.

When I got invited
to speak at UPAs, LA,

which is the LA
chapter of MUFON,

UPAs, universal
paranormal association

and then MUFON in Orange
County, very nice people,

it was really refreshing

'cause I'm so used
to talking to people

unless it's a
paranormal podcast,

if I just talk to regular people
who have an interest in it

you spend the whole
conversation about Bigfoot

trying to convince
them it exists,

and when you go talk to a
group of 30, 40, 50, 60 people

who study different alien races
and UFO's and consciousness

and different Astral planes

and metaphysics and all this
different kind of stuff,

and I'm like, yeah, my name's
Matt, I research Bigfoots,

they're all like,

yeah, and?

There's a big hairy North
American creature exists,

they're like, yeah, and?

It's no big deal to them.

I mean, when you're
talking about

parallel dimensions
and wormholes

and ancient aliens
and civilizations and

the real kind of out there
stuff they talk about,

to them, an undiscovered
species or an ape is just like

a species of human,
they're just kinda like,

yeah, what of it?

And they're very interested
and very welcoming

and I heard some

weird stories from some
of the people who came up

during the intermediate.

Hi, I'm a level three Shaman
and I live in the woods here

and I wanna let you know that

Bigfoots are spiritual creatures
and I saw one, one day and

I could see it perfectly clear

but my boyfriend
couldn't see it and

it spoke to me in a
dream later that night

and I'm just like, hi,

and there are other people
come up to me and they're like,

yeah, we're actually
Satan worshipers

and we worship demons and
they're all golfed out

and everything like
that and I'm just like,

hi, I'm Matt, smiling
politely, you know, and

they're telling me that,
oh, yeah, Bigfoot has,

you know, some of the
dark one's seed in it

and they're genetically
modified and all this and

the great evil one showed me
this in a dream and I'm like,

yep, it's nice to meet
all you folks, you know,

I mean, give them,
listen to these people,

listen to them, hear
what they have to say.

Whether you throw it out
personally is up to you.

But it's certainly fascinating,

it's certainly entertaining
at the very least.

Bigfoot, in my
opinion is the Nephilim.

The Nephilim are the
by-product, the offspring

of the fallen angelicals
and the human women of earth

creating a hybrid
known as the Nephilim.

It's biblical it's right
in there, Genesis six.

It goes back to the
seed of a dragon

will be at war enmity with
the seed of the woman,

which sets up for the rest

of the biblical
prophetic narrative.

That's not taught
in most seminaries,

most Christians have no
idea what that even is

but it's there and
it's coming into light,

and I'm one of the people,

my mentor, Chuck Missler,
and Dr. IDE Thomas,

I stand on their shoulders,

they stand on GH
Pember's shoulders,

so, it's been there,
people have talked about it

but the mainstream still
goes, whoa, whoa, whoa,

that's too whoa for us.

So, again, this is all
supernatural in my opinion.

The whole UFO phenomenon,
in my opinion,

is a supernatural
occurrence, not a

an extra terrestrial one,
interdimensional one.

I don't necessarily have
to believe everything I hear

and obviously I don't
just swallow and believe

whatever evidence is

placed in front of me,

but it's the
conversation that I enjoy

because what it says is that

we're not being dogmatic,

we're keeping the door
open, we're asking questions

even for the strict,
almost dogmatic Ufologists

or Bigfoot researchers who say,

no, Bigfoot is a
physical being only

is a ape family descendant
living amongst us secretly,

whereas others would say it's
an entire dimensional being,

either way,

they're searching for something

and they're keeping that
door open a little bit

and I really do appreciate that.

One of the things that I
encounter on my YouTube channel

and in my research and
shows that I've been on,

is just because I
talk about a theory

doesn't necessarily mean

that that's what I
think is going on.

It's just, I talk about
a Bigfoot UFO connection

or a paranormal
connection and Matt thinks

they're paranormal or
he thinks that they're

the Nephilim where he thinks
there's something biblical

or they think they're, Matt
thinks they're an alien,

well, well, I didn't say that,

I feel like any good
researcher or teacher

or somebody exploring a subject,

you have to look at these things

without that necessarily
being what your opinion is.

So, I gotta put that caveat
out there right away.

[soft music]

I think I'm probably more
passionate about Bigfoot

than I am about UFOs
because, well, first of all,

I have a BS in
anthropology, so, you know,

it's something that

I can justify I'm going
to school for five years

in only one sense,

but for whatever reason,
that's captured my imagination

a lot more than maybe UFO's.

I mean, I'm passionate
about UFO just as well,

but I'm a little
disillusioned by the

everything that's went on in
the UFO field, you know. and

it's a mess if I'm gonna
be quite honest and

a lot of people don't
have the best interest

of the field in mind
and that's, you know,

that's really frustrating.

Bigfoot's a little
bit smaller community

and don't get me wrong,

there's a lot of people I
don't personally like, but

it's not as tainted as the
UFO field today, I think, and

I think there's a bigger chance

for us to find proof of
Bigfoot in the next year

than there is of us, you know,

finally declaring that
aliens or whatever,

you know, creates the
UFO phenomena is real.

UFO, really, it encompasses
a lot of modalities,

it's not, we're not just
talking about aliens

we're talking about
secret aircraft, maybe,

whatever, right and it becomes,

there's so many factors involved

and if factors in so much into
the political world, right?

Because you're talking
about a new type of energy

probably, that's very different
than what we have today

and that affects everything,

everything in the
world, it affects oil,

it affects government.

Imagine the US government
admitting tomorrow that

aliens and UFOs are real and
had been flying in our airspace

for generations and there's
nothing we can do about it.

I mean, even today,
which, you know, it's

things a little chaotic
with the US government

but even that admittance is
like, is unthinkable, right,

how do you admit to
something like that?

And I think that's
part of the problem

why we're not getting
UFO disclosure.

Well, Bigfoot, you know, let's
say someone discovers Bigfoot

and now greater creationists
will be up at arms you know,

but ultimately everyone's
gonna get over it a week later.

Oh, look, we found other species
of man that's alive today

that'll be huge, right,

or we found a new type
of ape that's bipedal.

So, maybe the ape thing
will be popular for a week

and no one will care, you know,

or, obviously, if we find
another species of human

that's gonna change
things dramatically,

but look at the world today
is really, anybody's gonna

be up in arms about
it a month later?

Sadly, probably not, you know.

Not and people go back
to their phones or.

[bright soft music]

I suppose if the, you know,
humans are being abducted,

I wouldn't see any reason

they wouldn't abduct
a Bigfoot too.

And the fact that in
the last few years

you have seen a
lot more crossover.

Ron Morehead, a lot of
bigger Bigfoot researchers

have given more talks
at UFO conferences

and they're starting
to show up more

and you're starting to
see a lot more crossovers.

I think both communities
are kind of realizing

this isn't just some
physical creature in a craft,

some species visiting
us from another planet,

there's more to it than that.

These stars are too far away

for them to even travel at the
speed of light and get here.

There's more to aliens

than just them being little
green men from another planet,

and then people look at Bigfoot

and there's more
to these creatures

than just being a big hairy
human ape hybrid thing

and so, there's a
lot of crossover.

Who's to say Bigfoot's
not a shape shifter that

[laughs] one second is

you know, a bear like creature

and the next second he's
like an old Indian chief

and you know, hey, what's up?

Yeah, who knows,
anything's possible?

Coincidentally, that's kind
of where my research went

is eventually and
a lot of people

encounter this in
the Bigfoot world,

is you've read all the
conventional stuff,

you've been out in the
woods and have, probably,

more than likely very, very
limited success on your own

researching Bigfoot
in the field,

you spend all day
long on camouflaged up

with your cover scent
and your face painted,

crawling through the
woods, watching every step,

setting up cameras,

you go back to the car

and you stop to take
a whiz on a tree

and that's when you
hear a tree snap

and you hear a hoop
and you're like,

I'm not ready, you know?

Or as soon as your camera dies,
you've been filming all day

and you're tired and you're
sitting on the porch and

you're gonna have a cocktail,

that's when you hear
a tree knock over here

and you hear a tree
knock over there

and you hear the woods go
quiet and you're a whoop

and you're like,

the camera's inside charging
with no SD card in it

and you're like, really, really?

Now, it's when it happens

and you go get the camera
and then nothing happens.

That's just the way it
happens with all paranormal

and that's when you start
getting into the ghost hunters

people that go to the
haunted, you know,

the abandoned
prison and abandoned

Asylums and the old houses

and try to do their EVP and
talk to the ghost and everything

is they have a lot
of the same issues.

It's like Zen, the
harder you look for it,

the farther away from
it you're gonna get

and it's very interesting that

the UFO world, the Bigfoot world

and the paranormal ghost world

all kind of seem to have that.

I dunno,

I was wondering where you,
how, what the link was between

Bigfoot and you know,
and the UFO culture and

I'm understanding a little
bit more now, for sure.

For all of you out there

that love these topics,

thank you.

Thank you for doing
what you do because

I think that on the periphery,

even though maybe
we're the ones that

are willing to put our
faces out front and

publicly discuss these things,

on the periphery,
there are people that

are watching and listening.

Maybe they're not posting on
their Facebook page, you know

latest article
about cryptozoology

but they might see our posts.

Maybe they tune into
this radio shows

and they never talk to anyone
else about it outside of that,

they don't talk to
people at work or family,

just kind of like
their own little

you know, mystical
world that they created.

The similarities
at conferences

where you've got big
crowds and you know,

everybody's listening to
the lectures and so on,

I mean, that's
pretty much the same

whether you're talking about
UFO's or if it's cryptozoology,

what I've found is that

the lectures that are
done in cryptozoology

are far more visible in terms
of pictures and imagery.

You find that

lectures and conferences
in relations like Bigfoot

are far more picturesque,

you know, location pictures,

pictures of the witnesses,

shots at the local Lake
where something's been seen,

pictures of Bigfoot casts.

So, in other words, the imagery
for the audience is huge.

You tend to find very
often with UFO lectures

it might be like two shots
of the Roswell crash site,

somebody presents the documents

and there isn't really as much
visual material as there is,

you know, going out to, I've
done a lot of times like

Puerto Rico's El Yankee
rainforest, looking for the

Chupacabra.

I've done a lot
of lectures where

I've probably got 40 pictures
of the places we went to

but you just don't get
that with, you know,

lectures on the
Roswell UFO case,

there might be a blobby in
the sky and a picture of the

researcher pointed in the sky,

so, that's a big
difference as well, yeah.

[mellow music]

But I have heard
of a lot of UFO

and paranormal type connections,

and for every Bigfoot
encounter was,

yeah, it scratched its butt
and walked across the road.

There are things
that, it vanished,

it cloaked like the predator.

I saw big flash of light.

Its eyes were glowing red,

I don't mean I shine
from a flashlight,

It's eyes were
glowing red at me.

I felt an immense feeling
of fear, of dread,

like I was gonna die and
it had glowing red eyes.

And when you start getting
into things like that,

or it cloaked or
it disappeared or

you start getting
many things and

from people who are scared
to death and seem plausible,

why would they make this up?

And then you're like, well,
do I throw this encounter out?

No.

Well, some researchers do,

I don't blame them if
you want the hard science

but for me, well, let's
listen to these people.

No, they're all different.

I'd say they're all different,

everybody comes at it
from their own way.

We had Linda Moulton Howe
back in the beginning

on the first show and

we had Stanton Friedman,
one of his last

speaking engagements
before he passed but

yeah, it was a great group.

It's cool to have the people
come through Big Bear.

I don't know, bear kind of
covers the whole spectrum

and Nick Pope is, he's
just, he's fascinating

to conversate with.

There's a lot of
parallels in UFO world,

people, it's very
post-traumatic stress,

Bigfoot isn't supposed to exist,

monsters aren't
supposed to exist.

Monsters aren't
supposed to be real,

but then here you're
confronted with a Bigfoot,

seven, eight,
nine, 10 foot tall,

built like the Incredible Hulk

and has a mean look on its face.

You're at its mercy, if it
wanted to come over here and

tear you in half, it could,

and it's kind of
like that with UFOs,

you're at the UFO's mercy,

it's something you
don't understand,

so, you have a
post-traumatic type thing.

You have a shunning of you're
weird, you're out there,

oh, Bill saw a UFO
once and Bill's weird

or Matt, oh,

he's the weirdo guy who
is into Bigfoot, you know,

and like I said, it's all fun
and games until you see one

and then you go to the coverup

and then you go to some of
the more out there things

that we were discussing and
there's a lot of parallels,

and then I think one
thing, the UFO world,

because they're so
driving for credibility

even more than the Bigfoot world

is you look at MUFON and a
lot of the big organizations

and they have a
very strict, rigid

way that they conduct
their investigation

and that's great, time,
location, temperature,

what was the traffic
conditions on nearby roads?

What kind of, what
was the environment?

What was the state of
mind of the person?

Were they calm,
were they agitated?

Did this person have a
history of mental illness?

Did they appear
to be intoxicated?

Are they into drugs of any kind?

What was the conditions?

Were there any other witnesses?

Is there any other historic?

They're very, very good

and I think the Bigfoot world
could learn a lot from that,

from doing almost a law
enforcement type investigation,

you know, just the facts.

I know it's kind of fascinating
that whole disappearances

in like, in some of the
national forests too

and what's that all about?

I've done a bunch of research
in that and it's like

walking with somebody one second
and then they're just gone,

and then sometimes stuff
turns up, you know,

pieces of their luggage
or their gear or whatever

miles away where
there's an, you know,

the timeframe doesn't
match and who knows?

Abducted, I don't know,

Bigfoot ran off with
them or who knows.

One thing when you get
into military witnesses

and police officers,

when you work in law enforcement,
you're a trained observer.

You're meant to look at a crowd,

you're meant to pick out things,

you're meant to
interpret things that

you have training and
you have background

and you do it for a living.

So, when you have military
and law enforcement,

there are plenty of
sightings by cops

plenty of sightings by firefighters
and lawyers and judges,

when you get into military
and law enforcement

these are trained observers,

and when they have that,

how much more credible
do you want it to be?

I mean, you can't
make this stuff up.

It always seems like there's
some hard evidence that

changes their life
forever and they're like,

I went from a non believer to
a full believer in a second,

but I've always trusted it.

I always say

trust no one,

and it's healthy, very, very
healthy to be suspicious.

We've all heard
that line before,

trust no one from the "X-Files"

but you have to ask, what
does that really mean?

Because if I have subscribed
to the mainstream media

or if I subscribe to what I
was taught in school growing up

and then I had this
realization later on

that what I've been told
is not entirely the truth

and I start discovering
new information

and I get that
sense of betrayal,

then I'll start looking at
other sources of information

and those other sources of
information may offer some truths

but those truths can be mixed in

with

falsehoods,

and let's just say
mainstream media

or what you're taught in school,

let's say there's
an agenda there.

If I look at say
some other source

and they may be telling
me some other truth

that they weren't telling
me, maybe I will believe that

but if they had agendas,

how do I know this other
person doesn't have an agenda?

And we have to be
really, really careful.

So, I think you have to look
at all aspects of a conspiracy

all aspects of evidence,

whether it's
cryptozoology and Ufology

and try to be
objective as you can.

It's okay to entertain
all these theories

and explanations as to
what the phenomenon is,

but

whether it's a
conspiracy like QAnon

or whether it's a government
coverup of the Roswell crash,

if you believe all conspiracies,

then none of them can be true

and so, I just think
it's healthy to step back

be objective, you know, enjoy

the prospect of

discovering truth that
has been hidden from us,

I think that's very
fun and exciting,

but you need to be
responsible and not

just shift your faith from
one voice to another voice

to another person,
to another source

wholeheartedly and blindly.

So, that's a very
slippery negative side

to all of these topics.

Personally, I do think
at some point or another

we've had contact with aliens

and I think maybe at
some point or another

we've had their recovered
craft or given to us technology

which is where stealth,

you look at where
technology was 20 years ago

and you look at where
it was 50 years ago

and you look at where it is now,

microchips and lithium batteries
and all that kind of stuff

and every new plane that
comes out is already,

you know, they say that
we're 30 years behind

what the government and
labs already have, you know

and I think that's very true,

I think they're getting
it from somewhere,

I think some of it could be
very well reverse engineered

you know, where did titanium
come from, how do you smelt it?

How do you work with it?

Aluminum, even in
the 40s and 50s

coming up was a very new thing.

Where do we work with
all these different?

How do, you know,
things that we've had

but how do we work with it?

To microchips, to
battery technology,

to touch screen
technology, to propulsion,

all these different things,

and it seems to me
that it's coming from

some other place other
than our own minds

and our own research.

The government either
officially in some capacity

has some contact and continuing
contact with alien races

or interdimensional,
whatever these creatures are

and they're probably
more advanced than us

and we're probably getting
some kind of a trade,

either they're trading
humans for abductions

or experiment purposes
for technology,

who knows what kind of,

you know, deal in the
dark's being made?

So, yeah, I think they definitely
wanna keep it under wraps

and it kinda, you know, we're
alone in the universe and

we went to the moon and we
weren't asked to leave the moon

and the space program and
all our modern science and

Columbus discovered
America and all that,

it's all predicated on
what we know in our science

and I think when you
introduce aliens,

not to mention religion and God,

there's a lot of
questions that come up

if you suddenly
acknowledged aliens existed

and they're more advanced

and when you start getting into

a lot of alien stuff
there seems to be multiple

and even hundreds, even
thousands of species of alien,

some that look like insects and

some that look like
big Nordic people

and some that look like
the little gray aliens

and everything else and
some are good for us,

some are benign, some are
evil, you know, if you wanna,

some don't have our best
interest in mind, so,

I think it's a big can of
worms for the government.

Yeah, so for 10 to 13 years,

I was a director of investigations
from Eufaula, Los Angeles

where my job was essentially
to go out and investigate UFOs

and in that time,

I'm sure I investigate
over 300 cases,

you know, obviously a
lot of them I was able to

kind of, debunk right
off the bat, you know,

but there's enough there

that was really compelling,

including we had a
case in Pine Mountain

which is about an
hour and a half

from Los Angeles to two hours.

It's community

and we had a case where
an object was seen

flying above someone's house by

different witnesses
in different houses

on two consecutive nights.

They claim it landed in the
forest and they saw occupants,

and if it wasn't for the
quality of witnesses,

I'd be a little skeptical
because we're talking

a pretty far out story, right,
we're talking about occupants

but this just came from a
former correctional officer,

and like I said,
the collaborator

was the neighbor that
saw it and independently,

and not only that, but
we walked to the forest

and found the spot where
supposedly it landed

and it was this
big round circular

mark in the middle
of this field that,

you know, was hard to dismiss

considering the
stories we just heard.

So, normally a sighting would
come in, somebody would either

they would fill out
as a database from me

from people would fill it out

and then that gets funneled
into like different sections

around the country where there's
different chapters, right,

and Los Angeles probably gets
the most amount of sightings

just because it's
a big, you know

it's a community and stuff.

And so, that comes,
so I get emails,

obviously get emails
about sightings

and it was my job to
either assign someone

to do it which really there
was anybody else besides me,

you know, occasionally
people would come in

for a month or two and
then they would quit.

And then it was my
job to follow up and

usually, you know,

most people kind of
just make a phone call

and then, you know, fill out
the data base and all that but

I have a little
more interest in it,

so I was always trying
to go meet with someone.

So, then you go to the spot,

you try to go the same time
when they've had their sighting

around the same
type of conditions

just in case if it's
something mundane,

a lot of times you can see
it rather, you're like,

oh, look, it was a blimp 'cause
it comes around that time

and then you kind of, you know,
depending what the case is,

you kind of go from there.

[soft music]

I was looking this morning
hoping to find something.

- And is it harder to find?
- It's definitely

harder to find good footage
of Bigfoot than it is of UFOs.

When it comes
to the UFO stuff,

when you get into
cattle mutilations

and you get into places
like the Skin Walker Ranch

where they had UFO sightings,
there are certain places,

if you follow my channel
really deep in there,

I call places of
high strangeness.

There are places like
Yosemite National Park

which is a missing 411, missing
person capital of the world.

Hundreds of people in the last

30 or 40 years have gone missing
in Yosemite National Park.

Lots and lots of missing people.

I think in 2017, there was

10 or 12 people that
they never found,

and I don't mean tripped and
fell or fell down a mountain,

I mean, just stories of kids,

kids to elderly people
where they're 15, 20 feet

and they go around a
rock or around a corner

and then they're
never seen again

and found days later
in weird circumstances.

In these areas, we'll
have UFO sighting,

strange lights in the skies

and then we'll also have
Bigfoot encounters too.

It seems like they just
get this paranormal,

you know, to me, it's
like Bigfoot is 99%

well, it's probably
80% human, 19% ape,

and then 1% something
we don't know.

Something like if the
paranormal is a pool

it's got it's big toe,

it's kicking its toes
in the paranormal pool.

It's not a paranormal entity,

it's not like a ghost or
something like that or a demon

but it definitely has
that side to them.

So, there are all sorts
of different theories that

I've heard out there,

that Bigfoots are spies for
different alien species.

I've heard encounters from
people who've had habituation

with Bigfoot families,

who where their family
lived on a property

for many, many years

and there are Bigfoots
that live in the areas

and they would trade with
them or talk with them

and even some people
communicate with them,

learn part of their language,

it's out there, stories
I've heard though,

I can neither confirm nor deny.

Talk that when Bigfoots
get to a certain age

they go with the star people
and then they come back,

I've heard stories like that.

And then there's other
stories of people,

you know, a couple of
guys out in the country

drinking beer on their tailgate

and the UFO lands
and Bigfoots get out.

[mellow music]

One of the most
exciting aspects of

similarities between
Ufology and cryptozoology

are associated events.

Cattle mutilation.

Often you see orbs, people have
witnessed lights in the sky,

UFOs associated with cattle
mutilations, crop circles

and Bigfoot sightings as
well, encrypted events.

So, what does that mean?

If Bigfoot

is nothing more than
another ape family member

in the hominid branch that
has yet to be discovered,

our cousin, you know, out there,

I've a lot of good explanations
as to why we haven't

caught them on camera,

[mellow music]

but at some point
you would think

why haven't we gotten
enough evidence

with hair sampling
and DNA testing,

to just outright prove that
there's a brand new species?

I know there are some
good evidence out there.

But ultimately, with all the,

the cameras,

[mellow music]

no one has caught
a Bigfoot really

except for the Patterson film.

So, what is Bigfoot doing

that

keeps them so elusive?

Of course we have tracks
and that sort of thing.

I think there might be
something else going on here and

I know

it's, you know getting
a little bit out there

but

the more and more
I think about it,

I feel like

the idea that

extra terrestrials, as
people suspect them to be

are simply these physical
nuts and bolts beings

that are coming here

or that Bigfoot is
a physical being

just living in the woods

may not be entirely true.

It seems to me that Bigfoot

has the ability to slip
in and out of detection

far too easily for some mammal

that's just yet to
be caught on film

and with extra terrestrials,

they too seem to
have a will over

physics or reality
as we understand it

and can manipulate

the world that we see
with our five senses

and slip in and out

of that view as well,

and because those two
things are happening

and we see events
where they overlap,

maybe just, maybe,

these are beings that are
beyond just biological.

Here's the problem a lot
of people have with that

and here's the problem
a lot of people have

and I seem to be
defending those people

who believe these things are
real without question now,

and I'm not really doing that,

but here here's
something I will say,

I guess in their defense.

[mellow music]

We are curious by nature.

What we have to be careful is

that we don't automatically
assume we know the answers

and project that
answer on the research.

If someone comes
knocking at my door

at two o'clock in the morning,

immediately, I think,
oh, oh, something's wrong

or that could be somebody
trying to rob me.

That's a different
supposition than,

oh, I just saw something
walk by my window,

oh, that could have been
a ghost or a Bigfoot.

That's an immediate conclusion
that you've projected.

The proper way to handle that is

well, I wonder what that
was or I wonder who it was?

So, you turn on your lights,

maybe you go to another
window and investigate

and if you never figure
out what or who it was,

you don't immediately project

an answer without any evidence

and that's what a
lot of people do.

On the flip side of that,
that gets people in trouble

and that's what makes this
group of people so anti

or are drastically opposed to
the investigation and pursuit

in the first place.

They look at those
people who are very

misdirected and
have good intentions

but are very misdirected,

and they say, well, that's
the standard of reference

for people who believe
in mysterious things

or wanna go out in pursuit
and search of the unknown,

while in reality, that's
not, that's not true.

Those people who just
automatically assume that,

you know, this is all bonkers,

it's good to be a skeptic but
it's not good to be a cynic.

Don't be cynical,
just be skeptical,

that's why I liked Joe
Nickell, people hate that guy.

He has PhD, I
believe in English,

from the University of Kentucky

and works for an
organization that

pretty much goes out
and debunks things.

I respect Joe Nickell
because he applied,

he doesn't make fun
of anybody, he applies

that scientific inquiry and
integrity to the question

and he really wants to know
the answer to the question

but he's not gonna
immediately assume

that it was Bigfoot,
an alien, Loch Ness,

Nessie from Loch Ness
or ghost or a demon,

he doesn't jump to
those conclusions.

There are other people,
however, who are so close minded

they don't even
want to investigate,

Joe will investigate,

because it requires them to
reorganize their worldview.

See we all have a worldview

and if we were to find
out, if we were to have

an experience, if we were to
go hiking through the woods

and come upon one of these
creatures, if they exist

and it's incontrovertible
proof to us

and we are looking eye
to eye at this creature

and we live to tell about it,

we have to then reorganize
our entire world view.

[soft suspenseful music]

And just it's off,
it's fascinating,

I mean, Bigfoot's a given,

all you gotta do is find one.

I just don't know if we're
gonna do it on Bigfoot hunters.

Eventually though, eventually,

we'll all wake
up, I would think.

If you look at it from more
of a scientific hard fact,

if you accept the
possibility of alien life,

if you then wanna make the
leap to people are seeing UFOs

and UFO means on
unidentified flying object,

it just doesn't
necessarily mean alien,

it just means we
don't know what it is.

And if you take the other leap

and wanna go into the, I
believe aliens visit the earth,

I believe, you know,
the crash at Roswell and

the government cover up

and you believe that,
you know, on occasion

you know, these
alien species wanna,

do abducted people for whatever
reason, nefarious or good,

they wanna do experiments on
us, they wanna collect our DNA,

they wanna study us,
just like amazingly,

oh, why would aliens wanna
take people and study them?

What do we do when
we go study species

as humans, as biologists?

We tranquilize them, we tag
them, we radio collar them,

we take their height,
we take their weight,

we check their teeth,
we check their claws,

and then we release
them back in the wild,

we do it every day with bears

and mountain lions and
coyotes and badgers

and gorillas and
chimpanzees and crocodiles

and everything else.

So, it would make sense to me
if I was an alien life form

and I wanted to study
earth for whatever reason

and I was abducting people,

what are these very
large hairy people

that hide out in the woods?

Maybe I'm gonna abduct them too.

Maybe they are genetically

manipulated by an
ancient civilization,

that's a theory about them.

Maybe they're genetically
manipulated by aliens.

Maybe some ancient
civilization, tens of thousands,

20, 30,000 years ago had
some advanced technology.

Maybe we're not the
only ones that ever had

what we call technology.

Maybe they had
influences from aliens.

There's all sorts of theories

on where their
creation could be,

some of their more
paranormal abilities.

Some of the sightings of people

like there's been
a lot of reports,

I've talked to people
from military bases

who worked on military
bases as MPS and stuff

and they would see UFOs
sightings all the time

and it was always
don't ask, don't tell,

you didn't see anything,

but they also had a lot
of Bigfoot encounters too.

Bigfoots coming up to the fence

and the lights would
flicker for a second

and a Bigfoot's on the
inside of the fence,

strange stuff, you know, and

the guards on the perimeter
are like yep, we see Bigfoots,

yep, we see UFOs, like, it's
a weird ass world out there.

You know, and these are
soldiers, these are people,

they don't have anything to gain

and actually most, a lot of
people wanna remain anonymous

'cause you have
everything to lose

by talking about Bigfoot.

So, there's definitely a
connection there, what it is?

No one can definitively say,

if I ever get abducted by
aliens, I'm gonna ask them

you know, hey, before
you guys do your thing,

what's the deal with Bigfoot,

is that you guys or is that
another tribe of aliens,

or species of aliens is,
what's going on with that?

And see, we have as humans

always been at the top of
the food chain, you know,

we're supposed to be
the smartest species,

I question that every day,

but if you come face to
face with a bipedal creature

that stands about
eight or nine feet tall

and is smart enough to have
evaded detection and capture

and live in the areas
and the environments

that they live in just fine,

then we have to
reorganize our worldview.

[bright soft music]

A certain portion of the
UFO community which is,

it's a growing portion
too, it's pretty big,

think that Space Force
was specifically announced

because of the alien
presence and UFOs, you know,

and that, you know,
the White House,

Trump and Pence and all
that are in on the secret

and they're secretly
fighting aliens

on the moon or whatever.

Starting right
here and right now,

because this moment is your
moment, it belongs to you.

[audience cheering]

I don't buy that
at all, personally,

and I'm okay with the
Space Force thing,

you know, I'm not a fan
of thinking military first

in terms of space exploration
versus scientific exploration

so, that bothers me a little
bit, but I'm okay with it but

it's just that's not
how any of this works.

Now, you know, whether
you like Trump or not

but regardless I don't care,

but that's not,

president isn't
gonna be in the know,

no other guys from
the outside of the,

if anybody knows, it's
someone that's involved

in the military industrial
complex, you know,

and that would be, maybe
Bush would be the last

the father of Bush would
be the last guy maybe,

that would be in the know.

I don't think necessarily
presidents know the whole story

and certainly they're not gonna
create a whole Space Force

just to fight aliens,

I mean, that sounds like
fantasy to me, you know?

Yeah, I think of all the
presidents, the older Bush

has really talked
about UFOs, if ever,

but I think it makes sense
in terms of he was CIA guy.

Those guys, you know,

aren't gonna talk, they're
in it for life, you know

and if anybody out
of the presidents

from baby Bush to Clinton to
Trump is gonna know anything,

he would be the guy,

but it would be the
last guy I would expect

to actually talk about it.

I think it's so
compartmentalized

and it's such need
to know basis,

that's so few people
know the whole story

and I don't think any
of the presidents,

certainly not the vice
presidents or, you know.

And it's become very
popular now, right,

for someone that's
running for president

and they're like, well,
I'm gonna disclose,

I'm gonna look into
the alien thing.

I see these articles are

disposed on Facebook
almost daily now,

it's just not the way it works.

[mellow music]

With Jimmy Carter
reporting, some years later,

he didn't immediately do it,

but several years later
when he reported the UFO

it went into the
annals of history.

It is now a documented
UFO reporting.

Again, that is a
scientific term.

If I were to walk
outside my front door

and see a bright red,
glowing object in the sky

that I couldn't identify as
a plane or the Goodyear blimp

which I don't understand,

I don't think it would
ever glow and be orange.

If I have no evidence
to the contrary,

then I'm just going to say
there was an unidentified object

flying in the sky above my home.

That's a scientific
explanation of the unknown.

It's, you know at that
moment that it was A, flying

and it was B, unidentified

and you can identify,
say the location,

that's the best you can do,

those are all very
accurate statements.

So, what Jimmy Carter did,

he brought an air of
credibility to the reporting

but Jimmy Carter was and
still is at 96 years old,

a very credible individual.

I surmise, he lost the presidency
in 1980 to Ronald Reagan

because he was just too honest

and that's what
we've got to have,

that is one thing
we've got to look for

when we do research
into the unknown.

And we try to,

we try to resolve these
issues and solve mysteries.

You have to look for
the more credible,

the more reliable resources
and reports you have to,

and that's why it's so important

to know the people
reporting these phenomenon.

The other major
difference between

Ufology and cryptozoology
is the evidence.

Cryptozoology doesn't
have nearly as much

supportive evidence
compared to Ufology,

and I know that
ruffle some feathers.

Yes, there are

footprints, yes, we
have some sampling, yes,

we have

some video, not really
the best in general

but Ufology has a rich history

all the way back to the
1947, Nathan Twining memo,

Lieutenant General
Nathan Twining,

openly in his report

speculating that craft
witnessed by pilots and

military personnel

could possibly be
something that's off world,

and there's a rich history
all the way through

and numerous public
and secretive projects

regarding the
investigation of UFOs,

and that leads all the way
through Project Blue Book

up until the AT program,

and so, you combine
that with the number

of eye witnesses who are
pilots and military personnel

that have come forward
over the years.

Colonel Phillip Corso, I mean,
controversial as he may be,

you know, there's a
rich history there,

people saying, look, I've
worked behind the scenes

and this is what happened,
this is what I saw.

And so, when the
government is spending

so much time, energy
and resource and money

into investigating UFOs,

there must be something there.

Whereas with cryptozoology,
you just don't have that.

I guess if the
government thought that

cryptids were more of a

national security

threat, then they would maybe
investigate those things,

I don't know.

You know,

we had psychic
programs only because,

you know, for remote viewing
only because the Russians

were doing this, so,

would we have ever looked into

using psychics to remote view

unless the Russians
were doing it?

So, that's a national
security issue right there.

So, that's the only
reason I could think

that maybe the government
would investigate,

I think that the problem
is so many cryptids

get mixed and
there's a crossover

effect between

pure imagination of,

you know, creatures
from our mythologies

to actual creatures that
have been eye witnessed

or blurrly caught on camera.

So, there's just,

I support actually,

spending more time
and energy and money

into investing cryptids

and I think that there's a
lot more that can be done

and I think that in Ufology,

there's just been way
more collective resource

put into the investigation
from civilians

and the government and institutions
and academia in general,

there's just not
nearly as much effort

investigating cryptozoology.

So, that's a whole nother door

that I think that
should be opened.

Well, in terms of

my favorite evidence
for UFO sightings is

probably my own sighting
which I had as a kid.

It was, I was
about, I was age 10,

yeah, I live right
here in Los Angeles

and we're hanging out
by the pool with my mom

and I believe it
was a hairdresser

was there at the time, you know?

So, hang out by the pool,
probably maybe eating something

and getting some drinks,
it was pretty late,

well, I wasn't drinking
alcohol 'cause I was 10, but,

and then all of a sudden
we saw this big light

that kind of came down
and hovered above us,

about 30 feet above our
heads above the pool,

completely silent about,
you know 30 foot across,

about 30 foot up in the
air, so, it's about 30 by 30

and it say they're
selling a nanny kind of

either Blake tough or took off,

now however saw it.

So, after seeing something
like that even at age 10 and,

you know, as you get older,

you kind of go back
and you're like,

well, maybe I misunderstood
what I saw was helicopter,

whatever, but, you know, I
still ask my mom once in a while

and to me, I just
can't deny what I saw

so, from that standpoint, that's
by far the most believable

you know, UFO

event.

Otherwise, I mean, you look
through history, there's that,

there's a lot of, anything
that has to do with like

fighter pilots or airline
pilots that see UFOs

are obviously very believable

because they're
trained observer.

I even interviewed a pilot
that was an Air France pilot

and he was a 747
at the time, pilot,

and he told me that
he used to see UFO's

pretty regularly in
cross Atlantic flights

and he's like, I'm gonna be
honest with you, he's like

a lot of us have seen them.

He showed me a map, in fact,

of where all
sightings took place

from like various pilots
that he interviewed,

and it was like, it was filled.

It was filled, he had
all these dots everywhere

and he's like, we all see them,

we all know they're there, but,

you know, we don't
wanna lose our jobs

and we don't talk about it.

So, that kind of evidence,
obviously, extremely compelling.

And I was reading this
article from a science website,

a credible science website,
where they've recently found

evidence that there
could possibly

be a life sustaining planet
or planets in other systems

that were kind of to a point now

where we're almost
ready to accept

that that is a
distinct possibility.

So, if that's a
distinct possibility

and we've done really well
in this, on this planet,

there certainly the possibility

that life is developed
quicker and more intelligently

and more technologically
advanced in other systems

who are trying to contact us.

I have never seen
any evidence of that

but I keep a very open mind.

That doesn't really scare me.

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So, most people will tell
you that with UFO sightings

it's pretty random, but I
don't believe that's the case.

Now, granted a lot of
them are pretty random,

'cause it occurs all
over the world, right?

But there's definitely
specific areas around the world

that have a long
history of sightings

and they're still occurring,
there's Kazakhstan

for whatever reason, hot
in the middle of nowhere,

there's a lot of
sightings, Siberia.

and the United States, you
have the St. Louis Mountains,

St. Louis Valley, I'm sorry,
which is in Southern Colorado

has had sightings
for generations and

until, and still today you
have a plethora of sightings,

you have cattle mutilations,
a lot of related phenomena

in a very, in a smaller
geographical area

and I think that we
don't spend enough time

going to those spots that have
a long history of sightings.

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So, you get to a point where
your research with Bigfoot

where you've read the books,
you watched the documentaries

and you're like, I want more,

and then you start
looking in the UFO world,

you start looking
in, not just Bigfoot

but the bigger
cryptozoological umbrella,

and you start realizing all
across the United States,

I mean, my primary research
is in the United States

but all over the
world, you're like,

parts of the United States
they're seeing a goat man,

parts of the United States
like in Loveland, Ohio,

they're seeing a giant frogman.

So, yeah, I think you
get to a certain level

with your Bigfoot research

where you almost
have to start looking

at the bigger
cryptozoological umbrella,

you have to start looking at
the paranormal side of it,

what are ghost
hunters experiencing?

What are they doing?

What are the UFO people doing?

How do they conduct
their investigations?

What do they do with witnesses?

What problems do they have?

And you realize
you're all kind of,

it's different subjects but
you have all the same issues.

What I enjoy most

about both cryptozoology
and Ufology

honestly is the comradery.

The people in those communities,

I just so enjoy having
conversations with them

and working together with them.

There's a lot of

support

and,

and I think that might

come from the fact that

often people, I think, see
those of us who are interested

in these fields as a little off

maybe [laughs]

like we have dis-associative
disorders or something,

or that were sad and uneducated

and that's really unfair.

In fact, there's a lot
of very smart people

that are investigating
these things and

we have a sense of humor
about this stuff too.

You know, we get it,

that we're discussing
things that are like

just totally out there,

but that's okay,

that's part of the
fun of it as well.

And I think that, you
know, because you can be

judged harshly for having
these sort of interests

that in a way, it almost
brings you together and

it causes you to
have some sort of

empathy for each other,

a connection, that sense of
belonging to a tribe as it were,

and that, you know,

that we will be there to
support and defend each other.

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You know, a lot of people
talk about disclosure

but they're waiting on this,
almost like on this Messiah

to give you disclosure
and it's not gonna happen,

you know, obviously,
I mean, every year

it's like, this is
gonna be the year.

I think we should be
focusing a lot more

on being proactive and
heading those areas

that a lot of people
are going to, you know

instead of reacting,
be proactive, which is

in a sense, the same way
we do Bigfoot research,

try to be proactive, go and
get the evidence and found,

you know, Bigfoot ourselves,

and I think whatever
strange phenomena

and modalities
you're dealing with,

I think that should
be the approach.

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Are they meat eaters?

I would think, right.

And what?

Hunt a bear,

go tackle a bear,

cook him up, I don't know.

If I was a Bigfoot Hunter

the first thing I would
be going after is,

well, what is this?

Let's do some, let's spend
some real quality time

researching what we
think this thing eats and

go where the food
is, follow the money.

Like Bigfoot, so, when you
go research Bigfoot on a field,

now occasionally it'll be
just like a UFO sighting,

where you'll get a sightings
report somewhere in an area

and you can follow up on it,

but a lot of times, a lot more
remote than a UFO sighting

so, it's very hard to
get out there in time

and it cost money and
time and all that.

They crossover
between cryptids

and extra terrestrials,

UFO's,

is that there's this meeting
of the tangible and intangible.

and I love that nexus where
both of those worlds meet.

Our understanding of
time space is expanding,

our understanding of
the very structure

of the nature of reality is

almost getting looser
and more interesting,

it's expanding as well,

and that means there are just

perhaps, infinite possibilities

and so, if we imagine
something to be real,

if we imagine

that we can traverse the cosmos

and be at another
part of the galaxy

within just a few minutes,

if we can imagine that
consciousness exists

everywhere almost
simultaneously,

if science teases that all
of these things are possible,

that there are
multiple dimensions,

then of course why
couldn't there be cryptids

walking side by side
living right amongst us

and we have no clue,

that to me is fun.

It's just fun, I know it
sounds kind of ridiculous,

but it's fun.

That makes life
really interesting

and I don't need it to make

life interesting for me to
be happy or to be content,

but it's like science, right?

Reading the latest
news and science

then latest discovery, to
me that's fun, I love it.

So, that nexus where
all those worlds meet

is probably the most
exciting thing about

cryptozoology and Ufology.

There's too many eye
witnesses and it's,

you know, they're hard to
take a picture of because

they're, you know,
shy of people.

I was just watching
something this morning

where they took a print of a,

we got a baby Bigfoot and like
pour the mold and everything

and they're talking
about how the toes were

spread out different
than our toes are,

pushed in because we
wear shoes all the time

and they're like, this
is the evidence of that

and that was pretty interesting.

But ultimately I think that

both fields encourage
us to say, yes,

take a look behind the
veil and see what's there.

That's exciting,
there's a buzz there

and living in that mystery,

I think gives one a sense of

connection to something
bigger than themselves

and because these fields are

for the most part non-dogmatic,

meaning unlike a religion
or something right,

there are not

a set of rules that someone
says, you must abide by this,

you must believe this.

You can have that
spiritual search

through these mysteries
without anybody saying

your spiritual belief or your

sense of wonder
or your curiosity

is inherently

evil or wrong or bad.

I find it really freeing and

you know, even if we find
out something is not true,

that's okay.

I'm glad that we went on
this journey together,

I'm glad to be a
part of the community

and the people out
there who do this.

For me, ultimately,
it's all about

peace and love and harmony

and compassion and empathy
and caring about each other,

and the paranormal world
is a playground that says

you don't have to have

all of these boundaries

that institutions or governments
or your local culture

or societies or history has
said that you have to abide by.

It's like in "The Big Lebowski",

when the dude says
the do to bides.

He's not abiding by the
rule of society, right,

he's abiding by something bigger

and it means not
taking everything

so damn seriously all the time

that sometimes you've
just gotta let go,

go with the flow and enjoy

and for me, that's
what the paranormal is.

It's really just
letting go and enjoying

what discoveries or stories
I might find along the way.

Gosh, I would think
it's always been around.

It goes back to the,

there was a fascinating thing
with the Cherokee Indians

and that they would put
like grains or something

at the edge of their
camp and to feed them

and they would come
up and take them

and go back into the woods

and it was like
their peace offering

and they would protect them.

There's no, I mean,

Indian and there was no
reason to doubt any of that,

you know, and they probably
are more able to see them

because they're less fearful
of them than the standard human

especially like a Bigfoot
hunter, get out of here.

I mean, you know [laughs]

good luck seeing one or you
bring bringing your gun too,

they're like, no way

I can smell the
gunpowder, I'm outta here,

I'm not gonna get shot,
but I it's, I don't know.

Yeah, and why
don't, why haven't?

Maybe there has
been one in captive.

There's no reason to think
there wouldn't be but

I wouldn't think he'd
be that happy about it.

And I don't know,
is there a female?

There's gotta be female
Bigfoot too, right [laughs]?

So, the UFO world's
a much bigger paradigm

and you know, if
you think about it,

a UFO sighting can occur
anywhere in the world

and there's a lot more interest
and people report those

a lot more versus the
Bigfoot phenomena,

you have to have very
specific geographical area

for that to be seen and live.

So, I think from that standpoint

you're naturally gonna
have a lot more interest

and a lot of more people
talking about UFO's and aliens

and I think people are
naturally more interested

in the whole UFO thing,
'cause it's about

it's about the future,

it's about going out in space

and what's out there and a
bigger picture, you know.

Bigfoot doesn't seem
quite as big story

from that standpoint so, I
think there's much less interest

in Bigfoot than there is,
you know, in UFO and aliens.

They are a community.

They may be a diverse
community, there may be some,

let's not kid ourselves
that there aren't some

fairly crazy people
involved in cryptozoology

and in Ufology,

let's not kid ourselves
that there aren't some

charlatans and fraudsters
in both these communities,

but essentially, most
of the people involved,

whether they're witnesses or
whether they're researchers are

sincere, dedicated individuals

who are intrigued by a mystery

and wanna push the
boundaries of human knowledge

and rightly so,

and that's what being
human and being intelligent

should be about, pushing
those boundaries,

asking those questions,
trying to expand

the sum of all human knowledge

and if that takes us
into some difficult and

uncomfortable territory
as well, you know

that's how we maybe make big
advances through adversity.

You know, investigating
the paranormal,

it's like the light on the hill

that you're sort
of looking out to.

It's not necessarily that
that light is the answer,

although maybe you will find

the answer to the big questions

and I love asking
the big questions,

but it's the journey,

And so, going towards
the light, meaning

what is out there?

What is in the distance?

What's behind the veil
that we don't quite see?

But we, if we keep
going that way,

we'll get answers along the way.

That's exciting because

hopefully, we do
learn about ourselves

and I think we do.

I think we become more accepting

and loving and tolerant people

and forget tolerance,
accepting people because

we're entering this
weird world where

anything seems to be possible

and I think that if you're
going in with that mindset,

then for the most part, there
are exceptions to this rule,

your brain is more elastic.

You're able to adapt to new
ideas to keep an open mind

and that is the core

of the Ufological and
cryptozoological community.

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