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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:47,743 --> 00:00:50,311 ♪ Oh, run, run, mourner, run ♪ 2 00:00:50,398 --> 00:00:52,661 ♪ Bright angels above ♪ 3 00:00:52,748 --> 00:00:55,359 ♪ Oh, run, run, mourner, run ♪ 4 00:00:55,446 --> 00:00:57,709 ♪ Bright angels above ♪ 5 00:00:57,796 --> 00:01:00,364 ♪ If I just had two wings ♪ 6 00:01:00,451 --> 00:01:02,671 ♪ Bright angels above ♪ 7 00:01:02,758 --> 00:01:05,239 ♪ If I just had two wings ♪ 8 00:01:05,326 --> 00:01:07,676 ♪ Bright angels above ♪ 9 00:01:07,763 --> 00:01:10,331 ♪ I'd fly away to the kingdom ♪ 10 00:01:10,418 --> 00:01:12,724 ♪ Bright angels above ♪ 11 00:01:12,811 --> 00:01:15,379 ♪ I'd fly away to the kingdom ♪ 12 00:01:15,466 --> 00:01:17,599 ♪ Bright angels above ♪ 13 00:01:17,686 --> 00:01:20,210 ♪ Eagle lend me your wings ♪ 14 00:01:20,297 --> 00:01:22,517 ♪ Bright angels above ♪ 15 00:01:22,604 --> 00:01:25,172 ♪ Eagle lend me your wings ♪ 16 00:01:25,259 --> 00:01:27,565 ♪ Bright angels above ♪ 17 00:01:27,652 --> 00:01:29,915 ♪ A escape for your life ♪ 18 00:01:30,002 --> 00:01:32,570 ♪ Bright angels above ♪ 19 00:01:32,657 --> 00:01:34,877 ♪ A escape for your life ♪ 20 00:01:34,964 --> 00:01:37,749 ♪ Bright angels above ♪ 21 00:01:37,836 --> 00:01:40,056 [crickets chirping] 22 00:01:50,284 --> 00:01:52,721 [Alma Daniels] She had to have on her a dress 23 00:01:52,808 --> 00:01:55,376 because she was just coming from church. 24 00:01:55,463 --> 00:01:57,682 [crickets chirping] 25 00:02:08,606 --> 00:02:10,217 [Alma Daniels] What they did to her, 26 00:02:12,306 --> 00:02:13,872 they didn't need to live. 27 00:02:14,612 --> 00:02:16,832 [crickets chirping] 28 00:02:30,846 --> 00:02:33,022 [people singing] 29 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,334 [Robert Corbitt] Recy loved to go to church. 30 00:02:40,421 --> 00:02:42,510 She'd go to church every chance she'd get. 31 00:02:42,597 --> 00:02:44,990 And Miss Fannie was basically the same way. 32 00:02:45,077 --> 00:02:47,645 Miss Fannie's son, West, he wasn't a church goer, 33 00:02:47,732 --> 00:02:50,082 but he just went along for protection. 34 00:02:50,170 --> 00:02:53,521 It was about two miles' walk they had to walk that night. 35 00:02:53,608 --> 00:02:56,567 [crowd singing] 36 00:02:56,654 --> 00:02:58,482 [Robert Corbitt] They had revival going on, 37 00:02:58,569 --> 00:03:00,658 adding a whole in this church. 38 00:03:00,745 --> 00:03:03,226 There's a lot of singing, they have prayer, 39 00:03:03,313 --> 00:03:06,447 and after a while that preacher get up and bring the word. 40 00:03:08,666 --> 00:03:10,799 It'd be very hot 41 00:03:10,886 --> 00:03:12,192 because there was no air conditioner nor fans 42 00:03:12,279 --> 00:03:13,628 in that church at that time. 43 00:03:13,715 --> 00:03:15,369 They had to raise the windows. 44 00:03:15,456 --> 00:03:17,545 And the church were well attended, 45 00:03:17,632 --> 00:03:19,590 wasn't seats for 46 00:03:19,677 --> 00:03:21,201 all the people. Some had to stand up. 47 00:03:21,723 --> 00:03:23,159 You know the 48 00:03:23,246 --> 00:03:25,074 Pentecost people, they like to get up 49 00:03:25,161 --> 00:03:27,511 and dance a little bit on the floor, so... 50 00:03:28,991 --> 00:03:31,036 I don't know if that was a... 51 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,388 Or if Recy done it that night. 52 00:03:34,475 --> 00:03:37,478 Recy just loved to go to church. 53 00:03:37,565 --> 00:03:40,350 She was more Christian than we were, 54 00:03:40,437 --> 00:03:44,311 than the rest of our sisters and brothers, while she, 55 00:03:44,398 --> 00:03:46,226 she was more Christian like. 56 00:03:46,835 --> 00:03:48,271 But, uh... 57 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,668 But that night, when that happened to her, 58 00:03:53,755 --> 00:03:55,757 she was at a... 59 00:03:55,844 --> 00:03:57,933 A homeless church, as they call it. 60 00:03:59,239 --> 00:04:00,240 Uh... 61 00:04:00,936 --> 00:04:02,764 A sanctify church. 62 00:04:02,851 --> 00:04:04,592 That's where she was coming from. 63 00:04:04,679 --> 00:04:06,855 That's where Recy was coming from. 64 00:04:07,769 --> 00:04:11,338 ♪ Go tell it on the mountain ♪ 65 00:04:11,425 --> 00:04:15,211 ♪ Over the hills And everywhere ♪ 66 00:04:15,298 --> 00:04:18,475 ♪ Go tell it on the mountain ♪ 67 00:04:18,562 --> 00:04:21,130 ♪ To let my people go ♪ 68 00:04:21,217 --> 00:04:24,699 They said that she was a prostitute 69 00:04:24,786 --> 00:04:27,049 at that time and that's 70 00:04:27,136 --> 00:04:29,138 the reason why they picked her up 71 00:04:29,225 --> 00:04:31,793 and all that stuff but she wasn't a prostitute. 72 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,231 My sister was a Christian person. 73 00:04:36,798 --> 00:04:41,019 And she was married and had a baby. 74 00:04:43,805 --> 00:04:47,112 But the things that they claimed that she were, 75 00:04:48,984 --> 00:04:50,464 she wasn't that. 76 00:05:09,178 --> 00:05:11,398 [Robert Corbitt] It was a kind of warm night. 77 00:05:11,485 --> 00:05:13,400 It was September 3rd, you know, 78 00:05:13,487 --> 00:05:15,184 still hot here in Alabama. 79 00:05:20,189 --> 00:05:22,496 They were walking at night 80 00:05:22,583 --> 00:05:25,020 and at that time the streets were very poorly lighted. 81 00:05:28,023 --> 00:05:30,982 There was mad foxes, rabies foxes. 82 00:05:31,853 --> 00:05:34,029 So West got his stick with him. 83 00:05:35,509 --> 00:05:37,641 It was very unusual 84 00:05:37,728 --> 00:05:39,730 for anybody to get attacked by somebody else, 85 00:05:39,817 --> 00:05:41,428 here in Abbeville. 86 00:05:44,518 --> 00:05:46,911 [Robert Corbitt] Well, these boys that, uh... 87 00:05:47,999 --> 00:05:49,610 That took her that night, 88 00:05:49,697 --> 00:05:52,264 they had circled the church a couple of times. 89 00:05:52,352 --> 00:05:53,353 And, um... 90 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,311 About two... 91 00:05:55,398 --> 00:05:56,530 About eight o'clock, 92 00:05:57,226 --> 00:05:58,358 they dec... 93 00:05:58,445 --> 00:05:59,794 They decided to go down. 94 00:05:59,881 --> 00:06:02,100 They made a mistake and went to 95 00:06:02,187 --> 00:06:06,322 a ladies house named Rose Jordan and Sam Jordan. 96 00:06:06,888 --> 00:06:08,455 Uh, they was gonna... 97 00:06:09,194 --> 00:06:10,848 They had two daughters. 98 00:06:10,935 --> 00:06:13,024 And the daughters were about 17 and 18. 99 00:06:13,111 --> 00:06:15,853 Each one of them has a daughter, Sam and Rose. 100 00:06:15,940 --> 00:06:18,465 And they were gonna pick those girls up. 101 00:06:18,552 --> 00:06:20,380 Take all with them, but 102 00:06:20,467 --> 00:06:23,252 oh, they picked on the wrong family there 'cause Sam's... 103 00:06:23,339 --> 00:06:25,472 Sam Jordan and Rose Jordan was 104 00:06:25,559 --> 00:06:28,344 two rough women that you didn't wanna mess with. 105 00:06:28,431 --> 00:06:29,345 [chuckles] 106 00:06:29,432 --> 00:06:31,347 And they chased them. 107 00:06:31,434 --> 00:06:32,479 Um... 108 00:06:32,566 --> 00:06:34,655 Chased these guys away. 109 00:06:34,742 --> 00:06:38,180 And so they kept circling around. 110 00:06:38,267 --> 00:06:40,400 And they'd knew about what time 111 00:06:40,487 --> 00:06:42,489 church was out at night. 112 00:06:42,576 --> 00:06:45,405 And they wouldn't bother them until they got, 113 00:06:46,710 --> 00:06:48,059 oh, about, 114 00:06:48,146 --> 00:06:50,410 at least a half a mile out of town. 115 00:06:53,282 --> 00:06:55,023 And, uh... 116 00:06:55,110 --> 00:06:57,939 And that's when they passed Recy 117 00:06:58,026 --> 00:07:01,986 and Miss Fannie and West and then they'd come back. 118 00:07:02,073 --> 00:07:05,163 And then they'd pass and then they'd come back. 119 00:07:05,250 --> 00:07:08,819 And then... And then they finally stopped behind them. 120 00:07:08,906 --> 00:07:11,822 And that was when her... 121 00:07:11,909 --> 00:07:13,824 caught with the gun. 122 00:07:13,911 --> 00:07:15,217 She decided to run away, right away, 123 00:07:15,304 --> 00:07:17,872 as soon as she saw the gun. 124 00:07:17,959 --> 00:07:19,613 And, uh... 125 00:07:19,700 --> 00:07:21,702 And they yelled to her to get in the car. 126 00:07:21,789 --> 00:07:23,704 She started to run away. 127 00:07:23,791 --> 00:07:26,228 And she couldn't run but of 128 00:07:26,315 --> 00:07:29,710 very short distance because there was a tall fence there. 129 00:07:31,146 --> 00:07:33,365 [slow instrumental music playing] 130 00:07:44,159 --> 00:07:45,900 If she could have got past that fence, 131 00:07:45,987 --> 00:07:47,597 she could have run into the woods 132 00:07:47,684 --> 00:07:49,294 but with all that, she couldn't. 133 00:07:49,381 --> 00:07:51,558 And Miss Fannie told her not to run. 134 00:07:51,645 --> 00:07:54,648 Said, "Don't run because they might shoot you." 135 00:07:55,649 --> 00:07:56,780 And, um... 136 00:07:57,651 --> 00:07:59,174 So, she went and... 137 00:08:00,218 --> 00:08:02,177 Went and got in the car with them and 138 00:08:02,264 --> 00:08:04,396 she said they blindfolded her. 139 00:08:07,008 --> 00:08:10,272 And they took her away. 140 00:08:10,359 --> 00:08:13,710 Well, West was scared because they had the gun there. 141 00:08:13,797 --> 00:08:16,060 And I don't think he was no, 142 00:08:16,365 --> 00:08:17,453 uh... 143 00:08:17,758 --> 00:08:19,237 He was... 144 00:08:19,324 --> 00:08:21,849 couldn't defend them against seven guys. 145 00:08:21,936 --> 00:08:23,503 They were seven of them. 146 00:08:24,678 --> 00:08:26,636 So, 147 00:08:26,723 --> 00:08:29,509 West basically went along with what Miss Fannie said, that is, 148 00:08:30,684 --> 00:08:32,599 try to let 'em 149 00:08:32,686 --> 00:08:33,904 do what they said to do. 150 00:08:33,991 --> 00:08:35,645 Maybe they'll go on. 151 00:08:45,699 --> 00:08:47,614 [Robert Corbitt] They was interested in her because 152 00:08:47,701 --> 00:08:50,486 Recy was a very nice looking young lady 153 00:08:50,573 --> 00:08:52,053 at the age of 24. 154 00:08:57,580 --> 00:08:59,539 [crickets chirping] 155 00:09:02,542 --> 00:09:05,109 [Recy Taylor] He's tried to get me not to go to church that night. 156 00:09:07,416 --> 00:09:09,592 That's 'cause I got a baby. 157 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,160 I think she was nine months old. 158 00:09:12,247 --> 00:09:15,511 And I wanted to go so bad. [chuckles] 159 00:09:15,598 --> 00:09:17,513 So, he said, "You could go ahead, 160 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,602 I'll stay here and keep the baby." 161 00:09:23,737 --> 00:09:25,216 Saw the car 162 00:09:25,303 --> 00:09:27,610 pulled up behind me. 163 00:09:27,697 --> 00:09:29,525 Some white boys, 164 00:09:30,570 --> 00:09:31,788 they had a gun. 165 00:09:34,138 --> 00:09:36,576 And told me they are gonna shoot me, 166 00:09:36,663 --> 00:09:38,360 if I run, 167 00:09:38,447 --> 00:09:41,145 if you don't stand still. 168 00:09:42,103 --> 00:09:44,845 I was begging them to leave me alone. 169 00:09:45,323 --> 00:09:47,630 Don't shoot me. 170 00:09:47,717 --> 00:09:50,459 I gotta go home to see about my baby. 171 00:09:50,981 --> 00:09:52,200 Mm-hmm. 172 00:09:53,201 --> 00:09:55,464 I remember that real good. 173 00:09:58,554 --> 00:10:00,382 I mean, they didn't say nothin' about what they're gonna do to me. 174 00:10:01,426 --> 00:10:02,906 They put me in the car. 175 00:10:02,993 --> 00:10:05,474 They even blindfold me. 176 00:10:06,736 --> 00:10:08,042 Tied my head up, 177 00:10:08,129 --> 00:10:09,826 [coughs] 178 00:10:09,913 --> 00:10:11,828 keeping me from knowing which way I went. 179 00:10:11,915 --> 00:10:14,396 And then talking about killing me.[chuckles] 180 00:10:15,876 --> 00:10:17,921 They had on white shirts, 181 00:10:19,009 --> 00:10:20,358 I remember that. 182 00:10:21,011 --> 00:10:22,883 They had on white shirts. 183 00:10:22,970 --> 00:10:25,712 One of them was Lawrence Lee's boy. 184 00:10:27,409 --> 00:10:31,282 Who then tried to do nothin' to me in the car. 185 00:10:35,809 --> 00:10:37,114 He... 186 00:10:37,201 --> 00:10:39,508 He made me get out the car. 187 00:10:41,641 --> 00:10:45,645 He called that they were gonna lay me down to have sex with me. 188 00:10:46,167 --> 00:10:48,343 [rustling] 189 00:10:48,952 --> 00:10:50,954 [crickets chirping] 190 00:10:53,522 --> 00:10:56,656 Oh, I cried that night. 191 00:10:59,006 --> 00:11:00,703 Trying to get away from them. 192 00:11:03,575 --> 00:11:05,447 But they wouldn't let me go. 193 00:11:08,319 --> 00:11:10,626 [crickets chirping] 194 00:11:10,713 --> 00:11:12,672 [rustling] 195 00:11:16,197 --> 00:11:18,416 I can't help but tell the truth 196 00:11:19,417 --> 00:11:20,897 of what they done to me. 197 00:11:22,290 --> 00:11:24,945 ♪ Sheep-pi, sheep-pi ♪ 198 00:11:25,032 --> 00:11:27,121 ♪ Where you little lamb? ♪ 199 00:11:27,208 --> 00:11:31,952 ♪ Way down in the valley ♪ 200 00:11:32,039 --> 00:11:34,258 ♪ Birds and the butterflies ♪ 201 00:11:34,345 --> 00:11:36,521 ♪ Picking at his eyes ♪ 202 00:11:36,608 --> 00:11:40,743 ♪ And the po' lil' thing It cried, Mama ♪ 203 00:11:41,396 --> 00:11:43,790 ♪ Mama's gone ♪ 204 00:11:43,877 --> 00:11:46,140 ♪ Papa's gone ♪ 205 00:11:46,227 --> 00:11:50,884 ♪ They shall bring Some horses ♪ 206 00:11:50,971 --> 00:11:53,147 ♪ White and black ♪ 207 00:11:53,234 --> 00:11:55,323 ♪ Speckle and gray ♪ 208 00:11:55,410 --> 00:12:00,458 ♪ All them pretty Little horses ♪ 209 00:12:05,246 --> 00:12:06,813 My mother got sick. 210 00:12:06,900 --> 00:12:08,031 Uh... 211 00:12:08,118 --> 00:12:09,946 Back when I was a baby. 212 00:12:10,033 --> 00:12:12,514 And she died when I was 13 months old. 213 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,169 And strangely, um, 214 00:12:15,256 --> 00:12:17,214 enough, you can ask Recy this, 215 00:12:17,301 --> 00:12:20,174 she called Recy to the bed and said 216 00:12:20,261 --> 00:12:24,961 that she was going to die and she wanted her to take care of her baby 217 00:12:25,048 --> 00:12:26,876 and I was the baby. 218 00:12:26,963 --> 00:12:28,835 And Recy took care of me 219 00:12:28,922 --> 00:12:30,445 from then on. 220 00:12:30,532 --> 00:12:32,926 Family life was pretty rough for us because 221 00:12:33,622 --> 00:12:35,363 we had lost our mother. 222 00:12:35,450 --> 00:12:37,060 I used to sit and cry a lot 223 00:12:37,147 --> 00:12:38,714 because I didn't have a mother. 224 00:12:39,584 --> 00:12:41,717 But, uh, 225 00:12:41,804 --> 00:12:44,459 other than that, my sister and there on, they took care of us. 226 00:12:44,938 --> 00:12:47,244 Looked after us 227 00:12:47,331 --> 00:12:51,509 and made sure we had food and everything to eat. 228 00:12:51,596 --> 00:12:55,513 And Recy, she used to care of Robert all of the time. She... 229 00:12:56,123 --> 00:12:57,559 I must... 230 00:12:57,646 --> 00:13:00,649 He almost broke her down carrying him. 231 00:13:00,736 --> 00:13:04,000 She used to take carrying on the hip all the time. 232 00:13:04,087 --> 00:13:05,610 Well, I was in the bed, 233 00:13:05,959 --> 00:13:07,395 and, uh... 234 00:13:07,482 --> 00:13:10,006 And Miss Fannie down, after they 235 00:13:10,877 --> 00:13:12,226 uh, 236 00:13:12,313 --> 00:13:14,358 kidnapped Recy, 237 00:13:15,011 --> 00:13:16,665 she came back 238 00:13:16,752 --> 00:13:19,755 from down, where this happened, up to our house. 239 00:13:19,842 --> 00:13:22,062 She first stopped out there to the... 240 00:13:22,149 --> 00:13:24,847 uh... Will Cook, which was a police. 241 00:13:24,934 --> 00:13:27,284 and told him, then she come over and told us. 242 00:13:27,371 --> 00:13:28,416 And we all woke up. 243 00:13:28,503 --> 00:13:30,984 My father got dressed and... 244 00:13:31,767 --> 00:13:33,247 and, uh... 245 00:13:33,334 --> 00:13:36,163 me and my sister Alma stood on the porch 246 00:13:36,250 --> 00:13:38,774 the whole time this was going on. 247 00:13:38,861 --> 00:13:40,907 We both was crying, you know, 'cause 248 00:13:40,994 --> 00:13:44,780 we hear the guy has a gun and we doesn't know they was gonna kill her. 249 00:13:44,867 --> 00:13:46,390 My daddy reached up, 250 00:13:46,477 --> 00:13:48,828 another gun was on the wall. 251 00:13:50,003 --> 00:13:53,397 My daddy reached up and got the gun, and I... 252 00:13:53,484 --> 00:13:54,877 come out the door. 253 00:13:54,964 --> 00:13:56,836 He was bare feet, he didn't...[chuckles] 254 00:13:56,923 --> 00:14:00,665 He didn't have no shoes or anything on, so he, 255 00:14:00,752 --> 00:14:03,494 he was just walking up and down the road. 256 00:14:05,018 --> 00:14:08,935 He did that cleaning till she returned. 257 00:14:11,067 --> 00:14:13,330 And... 258 00:14:13,417 --> 00:14:16,551 me and my baby brother, we are standing on the porch 259 00:14:17,291 --> 00:14:19,119 and we were just crying. 260 00:14:20,207 --> 00:14:21,556 And, uh... 261 00:14:22,078 --> 00:14:24,124 [crickets chirping] 262 00:14:24,211 --> 00:14:26,735 We thought that they were going to, uh... 263 00:14:28,128 --> 00:14:29,607 kill... 264 00:14:30,043 --> 00:14:31,174 kill her. 265 00:14:33,916 --> 00:14:35,875 [footsteps] 266 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,416 [Robert Corbitt] And after they finished with her, 267 00:14:55,503 --> 00:14:59,289 they brought her back almost into town, put out. 268 00:14:59,376 --> 00:15:02,597 And my father was walking everywhere looking for her. 269 00:15:03,163 --> 00:15:05,252 She... He had, uh... 270 00:15:05,339 --> 00:15:08,342 been to two other Lover's Lanes here 271 00:15:08,429 --> 00:15:11,301 and he was walking so till his shirt was 272 00:15:11,388 --> 00:15:13,173 wet with sweat 273 00:15:13,260 --> 00:15:15,653 because he didn't know where they took her to. 274 00:15:15,740 --> 00:15:18,395 And he saw a shadow of somebody about, 275 00:15:18,482 --> 00:15:21,224 oh, four blocks away. 276 00:15:21,311 --> 00:15:24,575 And turned out that was Recy there, brought back. 277 00:15:24,662 --> 00:15:28,362 And she came running down to where he was. 278 00:15:28,449 --> 00:15:31,191 And she put her arms around him. 279 00:15:31,278 --> 00:15:33,019 Held on to him for a while. 280 00:15:34,672 --> 00:15:37,545 And shortly after that, Lewey Corbitt, 281 00:15:37,632 --> 00:15:39,373 and the police showed up. 282 00:15:39,460 --> 00:15:42,724 Lewey Corbitt, who Recy worked for 283 00:15:42,811 --> 00:15:45,814 that lay right next door, he was the sheriff, 284 00:15:45,901 --> 00:15:48,599 he was supposed to be out looking for her, 285 00:15:48,686 --> 00:15:51,211 but I'm not sure what he was doing, very much looking. 286 00:15:51,298 --> 00:15:53,996 He just happened to come by. 287 00:15:54,083 --> 00:15:56,564 Recy and my father were on the street. Picked 'em up 288 00:15:56,651 --> 00:15:58,914 and got 'em in the car and brought 'em back down to the Three Point 289 00:15:59,001 --> 00:16:01,308 across the street from our house. 290 00:16:01,395 --> 00:16:04,398 Recy had promised these guys, that if they didn't kill her 291 00:16:04,485 --> 00:16:06,748 and let her go home to her child, 292 00:16:06,835 --> 00:16:09,055 she wouldn't tell anybody. 293 00:16:09,142 --> 00:16:12,841 As soon as she got back, she told everything that she could tell. 294 00:16:14,016 --> 00:16:15,104 Everything. 295 00:16:15,191 --> 00:16:16,932 Described the car 296 00:16:17,019 --> 00:16:18,586 and Lewey Corbitt knew 297 00:16:18,673 --> 00:16:20,936 whose car it was. It was, 298 00:16:21,023 --> 00:16:22,720 uh, Hugo Wilson. 299 00:16:23,199 --> 00:16:24,592 He had a 300 00:16:24,679 --> 00:16:26,159 green Chevrolet. 301 00:16:27,508 --> 00:16:30,467 He was only about 302 00:16:30,554 --> 00:16:33,296 I'd say two football fields away from our house, where he lived. 303 00:16:33,383 --> 00:16:36,430 Just down the street, he could have yelled on and got it. 304 00:16:36,517 --> 00:16:39,520 Meanwhile, me and my sister Alma 305 00:16:39,607 --> 00:16:41,348 were standing on the porch 306 00:16:41,435 --> 00:16:44,177 and we could hear everything that was being said over there. 307 00:16:45,874 --> 00:16:48,485 So, they went and got Hugo and brought him there 308 00:16:48,572 --> 00:16:50,661 and asked Recy to look at 309 00:16:50,748 --> 00:16:52,620 this guy and see if 310 00:16:52,707 --> 00:16:54,665 he was one of the guys. 311 00:16:54,752 --> 00:16:56,580 And Recy said, "Yes, 312 00:16:56,667 --> 00:16:58,626 he's one." 313 00:16:58,713 --> 00:17:02,151 And he called her a liar right there. 314 00:17:02,238 --> 00:17:05,328 Said, he haven't seen her before in his life. 315 00:17:05,415 --> 00:17:09,854 But he had to be wrong about that because Recy passed his house all the time. 316 00:17:09,941 --> 00:17:12,466 Recy didn't live very far from him. 317 00:17:12,553 --> 00:17:15,338 He knew her. He knew her husband, too. 318 00:17:16,992 --> 00:17:21,040 And so, Willie Guy came up where Recy was and he embraced her. 319 00:17:22,389 --> 00:17:24,434 She didn't... 320 00:17:24,521 --> 00:17:28,090 She didn't have too many words to say that particular night. 321 00:17:28,177 --> 00:17:30,571 She mostly was just crying and upset. 322 00:17:31,876 --> 00:17:36,229 Those young boys felt like they can do it and get away with it. 323 00:17:37,317 --> 00:17:40,755 They really felt like they could. 324 00:17:41,190 --> 00:17:42,757 I... Um... 325 00:17:42,844 --> 00:17:44,933 They knew nothing was gonna happen to them. 326 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,242 What they did to her, 327 00:17:49,329 --> 00:17:53,637 and you know, my sister didn't have any more kids after that. 328 00:17:53,724 --> 00:17:56,118 And never got pregnant after that. 329 00:17:57,946 --> 00:18:01,906 And they didn't only just have sex with her, 330 00:18:01,993 --> 00:18:06,259 but after they got through mutilating her, 331 00:18:06,346 --> 00:18:09,958 they played in her body. 332 00:18:10,045 --> 00:18:11,394 ["This Bitter Earth" playing] 333 00:18:11,481 --> 00:18:13,918 ♪ And if my life ♪ 334 00:18:15,442 --> 00:18:17,705 ♪ Is like the dust ♪ 335 00:18:19,402 --> 00:18:21,796 ♪ Ooh, that hides ♪ 336 00:18:23,406 --> 00:18:26,366 ♪ The glow of a rose ♪ 337 00:18:26,453 --> 00:18:29,020 [Robert Corbitt] The reason so many people had gotten away with it, 338 00:18:29,108 --> 00:18:32,372 I think they felt that the black woman's body didn't belong to her. 339 00:18:34,374 --> 00:18:36,332 ♪ Oh, what good am I? ♪ 340 00:18:37,594 --> 00:18:39,205 ♪ What good am I? ♪ 341 00:18:41,642 --> 00:18:45,298 ♪ Heaven only knows ♪ 342 00:19:05,274 --> 00:19:08,016 [James Johnson II] White men have had access to black women. 343 00:19:09,409 --> 00:19:11,367 Forcibly. 344 00:19:11,454 --> 00:19:12,934 If they wanted one they would get 'em. 345 00:19:15,937 --> 00:19:18,331 It was something that their fathers, grandfathers taught them. 346 00:19:27,905 --> 00:19:30,604 The attitudes of the treatment of black women 347 00:19:30,691 --> 00:19:33,128 was the same as it was on the plantation. 348 00:19:36,349 --> 00:19:41,136 I don't think, uh, with the rape case of Aunt Recy, was that unusual because... 349 00:19:41,223 --> 00:19:45,184 First of all, they did not regard black people as humans, first of all. 350 00:19:45,271 --> 00:19:48,012 This goes back to the plantation, we were animals. 351 00:19:48,578 --> 00:19:50,711 Uh, monkeys. 352 00:19:50,798 --> 00:19:53,975 And so, they felt that we were really not human beings, so this 353 00:19:54,062 --> 00:19:58,240 attitude transcended from the plantation. Even to, 354 00:19:58,545 --> 00:20:00,721 uh... 355 00:20:00,808 --> 00:20:02,897 Even to today, if you will because there are some white males, uh, 356 00:20:02,984 --> 00:20:04,942 you know, who still do not believe that we are human beings. 357 00:20:05,029 --> 00:20:08,119 That we are animals and, so, therefore, um... 358 00:20:08,207 --> 00:20:11,906 You know, so you kill a animal, you kill a, you know, you kill a dog, 359 00:20:12,472 --> 00:20:13,821 it's no different. 360 00:20:14,691 --> 00:20:17,477 By having the power 361 00:20:17,564 --> 00:20:20,480 to have sex with black women when they wanted to, 362 00:20:21,742 --> 00:20:25,224 they were in control. 363 00:20:29,532 --> 00:20:31,534 [woman singing] 364 00:20:53,774 --> 00:20:55,950 [James Johnson II] Even on the plantation, 365 00:20:56,037 --> 00:20:58,518 from what I understand, is that young white boys 366 00:20:58,605 --> 00:21:01,434 would go to the slave quarters, when you become of age 367 00:21:01,521 --> 00:21:02,913 and got ready to engage in sex. 368 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,350 You go there and pick 'em by 369 00:21:04,437 --> 00:21:06,047 a woman to have sex with. 370 00:21:06,134 --> 00:21:08,745 And even to have children with if necessary. 371 00:21:08,832 --> 00:21:12,662 It was just common here in the South. 372 00:21:12,749 --> 00:21:16,275 Whether it was on the plantation or on the, um, sharecroppers farms. 373 00:21:16,362 --> 00:21:18,146 It was just something common that happened here. 374 00:21:20,714 --> 00:21:22,629 Intimidation was one thing 375 00:21:22,716 --> 00:21:25,066 that was used to keep 376 00:21:25,153 --> 00:21:27,068 black men under control and then have access to black women. 377 00:21:27,155 --> 00:21:29,113 For a black man, even if he dreamed of a white woman, 378 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,898 he better not even tell it. 379 00:21:30,985 --> 00:21:32,900 But the while males could go 380 00:21:32,987 --> 00:21:36,295 and come into your house 381 00:21:36,382 --> 00:21:38,862 or come by and blow the horn and your woman go out to the car and get it with him 382 00:21:38,949 --> 00:21:41,125 and come back and hour or two later. 383 00:21:41,212 --> 00:21:42,605 You know, the black men knew what was happening, 384 00:21:42,692 --> 00:21:45,565 but for survival purposes, 385 00:21:45,652 --> 00:21:48,307 this is the attitude that was prevalent throughout the South. 386 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,097 Probably, some slave owners felt 387 00:21:56,184 --> 00:21:59,492 that they could have their will 388 00:21:59,579 --> 00:22:03,409 with the female slaves, since they owned the slaves. 389 00:22:05,367 --> 00:22:06,716 And, um... 390 00:22:06,803 --> 00:22:09,328 I'm sure in some instances, 391 00:22:10,416 --> 00:22:11,852 um... 392 00:22:12,679 --> 00:22:14,768 That was 393 00:22:14,855 --> 00:22:17,901 consensual type of an affair. 394 00:22:19,816 --> 00:22:21,905 But in those days, 395 00:22:21,992 --> 00:22:25,648 an old saying used to be, in these parts, 396 00:22:27,694 --> 00:22:29,609 that every white man 397 00:22:30,523 --> 00:22:33,352 had another woman at every crossroads, 398 00:22:34,396 --> 00:22:35,615 white and black. 399 00:22:42,535 --> 00:22:46,365 My father started to walk back and forward, back and forward 400 00:22:46,452 --> 00:22:49,672 because he was so mad and upset with them, 401 00:22:49,759 --> 00:22:52,414 for what they had did to her. 402 00:22:52,501 --> 00:22:55,069 He was just walking back and forward. 403 00:22:55,548 --> 00:22:57,550 And me and Robert, 404 00:22:59,813 --> 00:23:02,642 we started walking back and forward 405 00:23:02,729 --> 00:23:04,426 behind him, you know. 406 00:23:04,513 --> 00:23:06,907 I don't know whether she was feeling pain or what. 407 00:23:09,344 --> 00:23:10,563 That was, uh... 408 00:23:11,912 --> 00:23:14,001 That was after they kept her about 409 00:23:15,611 --> 00:23:17,221 four-five hours 410 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,702 down in the woods, 411 00:23:20,790 --> 00:23:22,705 seven guys, one night. 412 00:23:26,753 --> 00:23:28,972 They said they wanted her to act 413 00:23:29,059 --> 00:23:31,584 just like she was in bed with her husband. 414 00:23:35,936 --> 00:23:38,852 She knew Hugo Wilson, 415 00:23:38,939 --> 00:23:41,420 she knew Billy Howerton, 416 00:23:42,682 --> 00:23:44,771 and Luthor Lee. 417 00:23:44,858 --> 00:23:47,687 But I'm not sure the rest of them she knew. 418 00:23:47,774 --> 00:23:51,168 And Recy went out to try to round up the rest of the boys, 419 00:23:51,255 --> 00:23:55,042 but they never brought in the rest of them, only Hugo. 420 00:23:55,129 --> 00:23:58,698 These same boys used to hang out in Town Square. 421 00:23:58,785 --> 00:24:00,961 There is an old bank, 422 00:24:01,048 --> 00:24:03,267 that's where they hung out, on the steps there. 423 00:24:03,354 --> 00:24:06,488 You go through town at night, they'd be sitting there. 424 00:24:07,794 --> 00:24:10,623 From what I understand, 425 00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:12,886 two or three of those guys came back to that hang-out spot 426 00:24:12,973 --> 00:24:15,889 that night when the rape took place. 427 00:24:15,976 --> 00:24:20,328 I don't think they bothered with those boys until the next morning. 428 00:24:23,157 --> 00:24:26,943 Recy and her husband spent the rest of the night at my house 429 00:24:27,030 --> 00:24:29,903 and then they went back home that Monday. 430 00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:32,471 And that's when there was fire-bombed. 431 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,260 They set the porch on fire. 432 00:24:39,347 --> 00:24:42,002 But Recy's husband was able to put it out. 433 00:24:46,006 --> 00:24:48,661 They moved in with us the next day. 434 00:24:54,014 --> 00:24:56,233 We got a lot of threats in those days. 435 00:24:58,671 --> 00:25:02,109 Just behind of our house we had a tall tree. 436 00:25:02,196 --> 00:25:04,415 It was a chinaberry tree. 437 00:25:04,503 --> 00:25:07,984 And high up in the tree that was a limb like a Y. 438 00:25:08,071 --> 00:25:09,899 My father, who was staying in the house 439 00:25:09,986 --> 00:25:12,598 until he know we was all in bed 440 00:25:12,685 --> 00:25:15,557 and he would sneak out back and go up that tree. 441 00:25:15,644 --> 00:25:18,255 He didn't want us to know that he was sleeping in that tree. 442 00:25:18,865 --> 00:25:20,562 He had a shotgun, 443 00:25:20,649 --> 00:25:22,608 double barrel shotgun, 444 00:25:22,695 --> 00:25:24,653 and he'll sit up in that tree at night 445 00:25:24,740 --> 00:25:26,350 and guard the house. 446 00:25:29,049 --> 00:25:31,268 During the day, he was setting the porch at light 447 00:25:31,355 --> 00:25:33,532 for we had some hedges there then, 448 00:25:33,619 --> 00:25:36,883 concealed the porch from one side of the house. 449 00:25:36,970 --> 00:25:39,625 And he kept his gun laying right there in front of him. 450 00:25:39,712 --> 00:25:43,106 He was always... Had that gun right there. 451 00:25:43,193 --> 00:25:45,239 He would have done something with that gun, 452 00:25:45,326 --> 00:25:49,765 but he felt that he had to stay alive to protect his family. 453 00:25:51,419 --> 00:25:53,464 Otherwise, he would have... 454 00:25:53,552 --> 00:25:55,989 He would've done something terrible, I know he would've. 455 00:25:56,076 --> 00:25:58,121 As a matter of fact, he told me he would have. 456 00:25:58,208 --> 00:26:01,647 Mr. Lewey Corbitt, he was the sheriff then. 457 00:26:01,734 --> 00:26:06,347 He was trying to make my father take his gun back to the house. 458 00:26:06,434 --> 00:26:10,569 He said, because you'd get in trouble if you try to kill somebody. 459 00:26:11,178 --> 00:26:13,397 But my father didn't. 460 00:26:14,790 --> 00:26:16,357 He, uh... 461 00:26:20,883 --> 00:26:26,019 My daddy would tell us, tell us, "Don't be afraid. 462 00:26:26,106 --> 00:26:30,023 'Cause nobody's gonna hurt you as long as I'm living. 463 00:26:30,110 --> 00:26:32,329 Nobody's going to hurt you." 464 00:26:42,209 --> 00:26:44,341 [Robert Corbitt] He's love his family to death. 465 00:26:44,428 --> 00:26:46,605 Oh, he love his family. 466 00:26:46,692 --> 00:26:48,737 I believe that's the reason he didn't do anything 467 00:26:48,824 --> 00:26:51,871 to try to get revenge against 'em boys because 468 00:26:51,958 --> 00:26:56,223 he felt that he had to stay alive to protect us. 469 00:27:00,444 --> 00:27:02,577 One day we were fishing 470 00:27:02,664 --> 00:27:05,145 and he told me, he said, "You know, I could've 471 00:27:05,232 --> 00:27:07,930 got five of those guys in one night." 472 00:27:10,019 --> 00:27:13,283 I said, "What guys?", he said, "The guys that raped my daughter." 473 00:27:19,333 --> 00:27:22,728 Lewey Corbitt, he had the same name as we have. 474 00:27:22,815 --> 00:27:26,122 We got the Corbitt name from Lewey Corbitt family 475 00:27:26,209 --> 00:27:28,124 after slave was freed. 476 00:27:28,211 --> 00:27:30,866 So, they owned my ancestors. 477 00:27:32,607 --> 00:27:36,742 He'd come to our house and say, "Don't say anything. Don't say a word out." 478 00:27:36,829 --> 00:27:38,961 That was... He was always saying that. 479 00:27:39,048 --> 00:27:41,181 "Don't talk to anybody about it." 480 00:27:41,268 --> 00:27:43,052 And we just, 481 00:27:43,139 --> 00:27:45,446 every time he'd say that, we'd talk as much as we can. 482 00:27:45,533 --> 00:27:47,404 I don't know, if my father or somebody 483 00:27:47,491 --> 00:27:50,625 was contacting the NAACP representative, 484 00:27:50,712 --> 00:27:51,800 here in Abbeville. 485 00:27:51,887 --> 00:27:53,628 That's how Rosa Parks came in. 486 00:27:57,153 --> 00:28:00,200 [Crystal Feimster] Recy Taylor isn't the first black woman 487 00:28:00,287 --> 00:28:03,725 that Rosa Parks goes to after a sexual assault. 488 00:28:05,031 --> 00:28:06,641 This is the work that she is doing 489 00:28:06,728 --> 00:28:10,210 prior to the Montgomery bus boy case. 490 00:28:10,297 --> 00:28:11,994 She's an investigator. 491 00:28:12,081 --> 00:28:14,649 So, when these cases and calls come into the NAACP, 492 00:28:14,736 --> 00:28:16,129 they send her out. 493 00:28:16,216 --> 00:28:18,218 She went in our house, not more than, 494 00:28:18,740 --> 00:28:20,263 um... 495 00:28:20,350 --> 00:28:23,745 15 minutes before Lewey Corbitt showed up. 496 00:28:23,832 --> 00:28:26,095 [Crystal Feimster] People know who Rosa Parks is. 497 00:28:26,182 --> 00:28:30,230 Because when Rosa goes to interview Recy that first time, 498 00:28:30,317 --> 00:28:32,145 the sheriff, the county sheriff, 499 00:28:32,232 --> 00:28:33,886 is rolling by the house. 500 00:28:34,234 --> 00:28:35,322 Um... 501 00:28:35,409 --> 00:28:37,019 You know, drives by, drives by 502 00:28:37,106 --> 00:28:39,195 and then finally bust into the cabin. 503 00:28:39,282 --> 00:28:40,980 Um, and say us, "Get out of here." 504 00:28:41,067 --> 00:28:43,460 He'd come in the house during this 505 00:28:43,547 --> 00:28:45,462 and told her she had to leave 506 00:28:45,549 --> 00:28:46,899 and to get out of town. 507 00:28:46,986 --> 00:28:48,770 So, she left and two weeks later, 508 00:28:48,857 --> 00:28:50,119 she came back. 509 00:28:50,206 --> 00:28:52,905 And this time he come in and... 510 00:28:53,906 --> 00:28:55,995 He bust in the house, 511 00:28:56,082 --> 00:28:58,606 grab Rosa Parks by the arm 512 00:28:58,693 --> 00:29:00,826 and pull her out on the porch. 513 00:29:00,913 --> 00:29:03,567 He wouldn't let her to come down the steps. 514 00:29:03,654 --> 00:29:06,788 We have... We had three steps on our porch. 515 00:29:08,355 --> 00:29:10,923 And she... He just pulled her 516 00:29:11,010 --> 00:29:13,186 from the high part all the way down on the ground. 517 00:29:13,273 --> 00:29:17,059 Rosa Parks went down on her knees, fell right in the yard. 518 00:29:17,146 --> 00:29:19,453 Then he told her to get out of town 519 00:29:19,540 --> 00:29:21,629 and if she'd come back he was gonna put her in jail and keep her there. 520 00:29:21,716 --> 00:29:23,196 She left. 521 00:29:23,283 --> 00:29:24,458 Rosa leaves, but she is not intimidated. 522 00:29:24,545 --> 00:29:26,199 She comes back, right. 523 00:29:26,286 --> 00:29:29,071 Um, and she comes back and on the second visit, 524 00:29:29,158 --> 00:29:30,899 the sheriff comes again. 525 00:29:30,986 --> 00:29:33,510 Um, and they physically throw her out of the house. 526 00:29:33,597 --> 00:29:34,468 Um... 527 00:29:34,555 --> 00:29:37,036 And this is not unusual. 528 00:29:37,123 --> 00:29:38,864 And Rosa, of course, 529 00:29:38,951 --> 00:29:40,343 would know to expect 530 00:29:40,430 --> 00:29:42,215 that if a white sheriff comes in, 531 00:29:42,302 --> 00:29:44,870 he's gonna ultimately put his hands on her. 532 00:29:44,957 --> 00:29:48,874 But also, to reveal something about her, too. 533 00:29:48,961 --> 00:29:51,964 That for the sheriff to come in and to throw her out of the steps 534 00:29:52,051 --> 00:29:55,489 implies that Rosa was resistant. 535 00:29:55,968 --> 00:29:57,926 [woman singing] 536 00:30:12,114 --> 00:30:16,902 [Crystal Feimster] We can link this up to her refusal to give up her seat on the bus. 537 00:30:16,989 --> 00:30:19,252 That there is a claim that she is making 538 00:30:19,339 --> 00:30:20,949 and it's a bodily claim 539 00:30:21,036 --> 00:30:22,908 to be able to own a space. 540 00:30:22,995 --> 00:30:25,084 whether that's Recy's kitchen table 541 00:30:25,171 --> 00:30:26,737 or the seat on the bus 542 00:30:26,825 --> 00:30:29,088 that she wants 543 00:30:29,175 --> 00:30:32,613 and believes that she has it right to be in that space. 544 00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:36,008 In her actions, she is saying, 545 00:30:36,095 --> 00:30:38,358 "You're not gonna put your foot on my neck." 546 00:30:38,445 --> 00:30:39,576 [chuckles] You know, 547 00:30:39,663 --> 00:30:41,491 And I will be back. 548 00:30:41,578 --> 00:30:43,406 You can throw me down the steps, 549 00:30:43,493 --> 00:30:45,278 you can yank me off of this bus, 550 00:30:45,365 --> 00:30:47,584 but I am not going to concede my rights. 551 00:30:47,671 --> 00:30:49,935 I'm not gonna concede Recy's rights. 552 00:30:50,022 --> 00:30:52,851 That's one of the things that makes Rosa exceptional, 553 00:30:52,938 --> 00:30:55,810 that she was willing to risk her life. 554 00:30:55,897 --> 00:30:57,725 Black women know when they are arrested 555 00:30:57,812 --> 00:30:59,988 and they are taken into a jail, 556 00:31:00,075 --> 00:31:02,121 anything could happen and they may not come out. 557 00:31:02,208 --> 00:31:04,775 Even if they do come out, they're gonna come out 558 00:31:04,863 --> 00:31:07,866 in many ways as victims of police brutality. 559 00:31:13,872 --> 00:31:16,962 There's a place where she does. That's where here family is from. 560 00:31:17,049 --> 00:31:18,920 Her father side of the family is there. 561 00:31:19,007 --> 00:31:22,532 She still has relatives in Abbeville. 562 00:31:22,619 --> 00:31:25,753 And so she goes there. So, it's personal in some ways. 563 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,320 Um... 564 00:31:27,407 --> 00:31:31,019 And I think, she also understands, um... 565 00:31:32,412 --> 00:31:34,631 at a sort of gut level 566 00:31:34,718 --> 00:31:37,547 what it means to be a victim of sexual assault. 567 00:31:42,074 --> 00:31:44,511 [Rosa Parks] In the late spring of 1931, 568 00:31:44,598 --> 00:31:46,992 I was past my 18th birthday. 569 00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:48,732 It was during The Depression and I was quite lucky to have 570 00:31:48,819 --> 00:31:50,865 a maid of a work job in the home of a couple 571 00:31:50,952 --> 00:31:53,868 who paid me four dollars weekly for seven days a week. 572 00:31:53,955 --> 00:31:57,045 The Mr. and Mrs. were off for their night of pleasure, 573 00:31:57,132 --> 00:32:00,962 the baby was put to bed by me and he was sleeping. 574 00:32:01,049 --> 00:32:03,399 It was a typical hot Alabama night. 575 00:32:03,486 --> 00:32:05,184 All the doors and windows were open. 576 00:32:06,533 --> 00:32:09,536 I saw Mr. Charlie. 577 00:32:09,623 --> 00:32:12,452 He poured himself a drink from the whiskey bottle along the table. 578 00:32:12,539 --> 00:32:14,584 He stood near me sipping the drink. 579 00:32:14,671 --> 00:32:17,892 I said the folks maybe coming back soon, if he wanted to wait for them. 580 00:32:19,285 --> 00:32:21,940 He said he was there to see me. 581 00:32:22,027 --> 00:32:24,943 He moved nearer to me and put his hand on my waist. 582 00:32:25,030 --> 00:32:27,423 At his touch, I jumped away as quickly as an unbridled filly. 583 00:32:27,510 --> 00:32:29,338 He asked me not to be afraid. 584 00:32:29,425 --> 00:32:30,861 He would not hurt me. 585 00:32:31,471 --> 00:32:33,255 He liked me. 586 00:32:33,342 --> 00:32:36,911 He didn't want me to be lonely and would I be sweet to him. 587 00:32:36,998 --> 00:32:40,175 He had money to give me for accepting his attentions. 588 00:32:43,135 --> 00:32:46,703 I felt filthy and stripped naked of any shred of decency. 589 00:32:46,790 --> 00:32:51,056 In a flash of movement, I was no longer a decent, self-respecting teenage girl, 590 00:32:51,143 --> 00:32:54,059 but a flesh-pot. 591 00:32:54,146 --> 00:32:56,148 A strumpet to be bargained for and parceled out as a commodity. 592 00:32:57,453 --> 00:32:59,760 He was fast becoming intoxicated on alcohol 593 00:32:59,847 --> 00:33:01,762 and lustful desire for my body. 594 00:33:02,850 --> 00:33:04,939 I knew that no matter what happened, 595 00:33:05,026 --> 00:33:08,421 I would never yield to this white man's bestiality. 596 00:33:08,508 --> 00:33:10,423 I was ready and willing to die 597 00:33:10,510 --> 00:33:12,207 but give any consent, 598 00:33:13,034 --> 00:33:14,166 never. 599 00:33:16,733 --> 00:33:18,997 All my fear had been replaced 600 00:33:19,084 --> 00:33:21,912 by a determination to stand completely alone against 601 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,698 this formidable foe as long as I drew the breath of life. 602 00:33:24,785 --> 00:33:27,527 I talked about the white man's inhumane treatment of the negro, 603 00:33:27,614 --> 00:33:31,270 how I hated all white people, especially, him. 604 00:33:31,357 --> 00:33:33,098 He asked me to give him a price. 605 00:33:34,186 --> 00:33:35,970 I was not for sale. 606 00:33:37,189 --> 00:33:40,627 I asked him if the white woman was not good enough for him. 607 00:33:40,714 --> 00:33:43,630 I taunted him about the supposed white supremacy. 608 00:33:43,717 --> 00:33:46,546 The white man's law of drawing them color lines of segregation. 609 00:33:46,633 --> 00:33:49,766 I said there was nothing he could do to get my consent. 610 00:33:49,853 --> 00:33:52,639 He need not think that because he was a low-down, dirty dog of a white man 611 00:33:52,726 --> 00:33:54,858 and I was a poor defenseless, helpless colored girl, 612 00:33:54,945 --> 00:33:56,599 that he could run over me. 613 00:33:57,383 --> 00:33:59,124 If he wanted to kill me, 614 00:33:59,211 --> 00:34:01,039 and rape a dead body, 615 00:34:01,126 --> 00:34:02,997 he was welcome. 616 00:34:03,084 --> 00:34:04,738 But he would have to kill me first. 617 00:34:08,046 --> 00:34:10,613 He said the color of a person didn't matter to him, if he liked the person. 618 00:34:10,700 --> 00:34:13,138 I said it would not matter to me if there was no color line 619 00:34:13,225 --> 00:34:15,531 and all people could be respected equally. 620 00:34:15,618 --> 00:34:17,794 I would not be intimate with a man 621 00:34:17,881 --> 00:34:19,492 that the law did not permit me to be married to 622 00:34:19,579 --> 00:34:21,102 and respected by. 623 00:34:23,583 --> 00:34:26,064 At long last, Mr. Charlie got the idea that I meant 'no,' 624 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,459 very definitely, 'no.' 625 00:34:30,546 --> 00:34:32,722 He said he would not bother me any further. 626 00:34:33,723 --> 00:34:35,247 I picked up the newspaper, 627 00:34:35,769 --> 00:34:37,640 opened it wide, 628 00:34:37,727 --> 00:34:39,642 holding it where I couldn't see him 629 00:34:39,729 --> 00:34:40,948 and started reading. 630 00:34:46,780 --> 00:34:48,825 [Crystal Feimster] Most women know, 631 00:34:48,912 --> 00:34:50,610 that their cases aren't gonna be believed. 632 00:34:50,697 --> 00:34:52,264 So they don't tell their stories. 633 00:34:52,351 --> 00:34:54,483 Rosa doesn't tell her story, 634 00:34:54,570 --> 00:34:57,225 she writes her story at some point much later. 635 00:34:57,312 --> 00:34:59,662 It's an unspeakable crime 636 00:34:59,749 --> 00:35:01,969 and people use that language to talk about sexual assault 637 00:35:02,056 --> 00:35:04,014 because they don't want people to speak about it. 638 00:35:04,102 --> 00:35:06,713 I can't imagine having to experience that 639 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,890 I can't imagine what it would take for someone 640 00:35:09,977 --> 00:35:12,849 to tell that story publicly. 641 00:35:12,936 --> 00:35:15,809 So, there's no way that you can't 642 00:35:15,896 --> 00:35:19,813 hear Recy's story and not feel like she's a hero. 643 00:35:26,254 --> 00:35:28,517 [Robert Corbitt] We all got ready that day 644 00:35:28,604 --> 00:35:31,694 and was gonna come uptown and listen to the hearing. 645 00:35:31,781 --> 00:35:34,567 We got almost up to the courthouse 646 00:35:34,654 --> 00:35:36,612 and the police stopped us 647 00:35:36,699 --> 00:35:38,397 and told us we couldn't go any further. 648 00:35:38,484 --> 00:35:40,660 We had to stay right there. 649 00:35:40,747 --> 00:35:43,141 They wouldn't let any blacks into town that day. 650 00:35:45,621 --> 00:35:47,754 They brought Recy into the courthouse 651 00:35:47,841 --> 00:35:49,538 and they didn't take her into a courtroom 652 00:35:49,625 --> 00:35:51,018 but she was in a, uh... 653 00:35:51,714 --> 00:35:53,760 a little back small room. 654 00:35:53,847 --> 00:35:56,110 That's where they talked with her. 655 00:35:56,197 --> 00:35:58,156 But she wasn't face with them. 656 00:35:59,026 --> 00:36:00,897 They had her in one room 657 00:36:00,984 --> 00:36:03,030 and those guys in another room. 658 00:36:03,117 --> 00:36:07,339 She said she never saw the guys in the courthouse. 659 00:36:07,426 --> 00:36:11,517 They didn't have Recy up there for very long before they let her go. 660 00:36:11,604 --> 00:36:13,475 She'd come back down and join us. 661 00:36:13,562 --> 00:36:15,347 We all walked back to Three Point. 662 00:36:19,612 --> 00:36:21,788 It was one of the biggest cover-ups. 663 00:36:23,964 --> 00:36:25,966 I thought, sure they would have 664 00:36:26,836 --> 00:36:29,752 found them guilty of it, you know. 665 00:36:30,927 --> 00:36:33,887 But I should have known better. 666 00:36:33,974 --> 00:36:37,282 Because back in them days, they covered it up. 667 00:36:37,369 --> 00:36:40,285 Cover up stuff so bad and put it off on... 668 00:36:40,676 --> 00:36:42,287 on, uh... 669 00:36:42,374 --> 00:36:44,680 Black people just how, 670 00:36:44,767 --> 00:36:48,031 you know, they the one that cause it, they the one done it. 671 00:36:49,642 --> 00:36:51,948 And, and they knew... 672 00:36:52,471 --> 00:36:54,081 And they knew 673 00:36:54,777 --> 00:36:56,649 that those guys was wrong 674 00:36:56,736 --> 00:36:59,086 and they knew that they did that. 675 00:36:59,173 --> 00:37:01,480 But they weren't gonna do nothin about it. 676 00:37:03,569 --> 00:37:05,092 How do you learn to stay in your place? 677 00:37:05,179 --> 00:37:06,789 You just do what all that matters. 678 00:37:06,876 --> 00:37:08,617 You know the consequence of it. 679 00:37:08,704 --> 00:37:12,186 If you got out of you place, you'd probably be hurt, beat up, 680 00:37:12,273 --> 00:37:14,188 put in jail or something like that. 681 00:37:14,275 --> 00:37:16,669 And we all know where our places was. 682 00:37:16,756 --> 00:37:20,194 I remember, one time, that, uh... 683 00:37:21,282 --> 00:37:22,849 I was uptown 684 00:37:24,459 --> 00:37:26,940 and a policeman 685 00:37:27,593 --> 00:37:30,422 was coming through a door. 686 00:37:30,509 --> 00:37:32,772 He had his mother with him. 687 00:37:33,425 --> 00:37:35,427 And he slapped me because 688 00:37:36,428 --> 00:37:38,299 I didn't move back. 689 00:37:38,386 --> 00:37:42,782 I didn't move so that they could come through. 690 00:37:42,869 --> 00:37:46,351 I was going in the door and he was coming out of the 691 00:37:46,438 --> 00:37:49,310 five-and-ten-cent store door 692 00:37:49,397 --> 00:37:50,833 and he slapped me. 693 00:37:52,095 --> 00:37:54,402 And that's when I slapped him back. 694 00:37:55,447 --> 00:37:57,275 And they... 695 00:37:58,319 --> 00:38:00,060 Oh, well, we fought. 696 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,932 And then that's when... 697 00:38:03,019 --> 00:38:06,806 first time I've been to jail and the last time I've been to jail. 698 00:38:06,893 --> 00:38:08,286 [chuckles] 699 00:38:11,071 --> 00:38:13,291 Somebody went and told my father about what happened 700 00:38:13,378 --> 00:38:14,770 and he came down there. 701 00:38:14,857 --> 00:38:16,729 And I was up in the jailhouse 702 00:38:16,816 --> 00:38:19,340 and I was looking out the window. 703 00:38:19,427 --> 00:38:22,909 He says, "What are you doing up there? 704 00:38:22,996 --> 00:38:24,606 Didn't you know better?" 705 00:38:24,693 --> 00:38:26,565 I said, "Well, Daddy, 706 00:38:26,652 --> 00:38:29,742 he slapped me and I hit him back." 707 00:38:29,829 --> 00:38:32,092 Daddy said, "You don't go to town no more 708 00:38:32,179 --> 00:38:34,312 if you don't know how to act." 709 00:38:34,399 --> 00:38:36,270 [chuckles] Well... 710 00:38:36,357 --> 00:38:39,752 ♪ I'm gonna buy a paper doll ♪ 711 00:38:39,839 --> 00:38:43,756 ♪ That I can call my own ♪ 712 00:38:43,843 --> 00:38:46,933 ♪ A doll that other fellows ♪ 713 00:38:47,020 --> 00:38:49,327 ♪ Cannot steal ♪ 714 00:38:49,414 --> 00:38:53,635 ♪ I'd rather have A paper doll ♪ 715 00:38:53,722 --> 00:38:56,116 ♪ To call my own ♪ 716 00:38:56,203 --> 00:39:02,949 ♪ Than have a fickle-minded Real, live girl ♪ 717 00:39:03,036 --> 00:39:06,866 ♪ I guess I had A million dollars or more ♪ 718 00:39:06,953 --> 00:39:08,607 [James Johnson II] As a young boy, 719 00:39:08,694 --> 00:39:10,609 the only theater was the Archie Theater. 720 00:39:10,696 --> 00:39:12,741 We would fill our pockets with rocks. 721 00:39:12,828 --> 00:39:15,004 And when the lights would go out, 722 00:39:15,091 --> 00:39:16,397 we would take the rocks out and throw them down 723 00:39:16,484 --> 00:39:19,357 and hit people in the head. 724 00:39:19,444 --> 00:39:21,620 Pardon the expression where they would say, 'niggers throwing rocks.' 725 00:39:21,707 --> 00:39:24,449 The whites would sit downstairs in the nice chairs 726 00:39:24,536 --> 00:39:27,974 and we would spit down on people's heads. 727 00:39:28,061 --> 00:39:31,020 We had our way of fighting Jim Crow as kids. 728 00:39:32,587 --> 00:39:35,198 ♪ And it's tough To love a doll ♪ 729 00:39:35,285 --> 00:39:37,984 ♪ That's not your own ♪ 730 00:39:39,551 --> 00:39:42,641 ♪ I'm through with All of them ♪ 731 00:39:42,728 --> 00:39:45,383 ♪ I'll never fall again ♪ 732 00:39:45,470 --> 00:39:47,123 [Esther Cooper Jackson] Any strangers 733 00:39:47,210 --> 00:39:49,212 who came in to Abbeville, 734 00:39:49,299 --> 00:39:51,301 if they were black, they were suspicious 735 00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:54,174 that they were there to look into Recy Taylor 736 00:39:54,261 --> 00:39:56,350 and see what we were plotting. 737 00:39:56,437 --> 00:39:59,397 So that, when I did go, I had someone 738 00:39:59,484 --> 00:40:02,661 drive me from Birmingham to Abbeville, 739 00:40:02,748 --> 00:40:05,011 go in a back entrance. 740 00:40:05,098 --> 00:40:08,710 She was traumatized, like she was, uh, 741 00:40:09,276 --> 00:40:11,147 in shock. 742 00:40:11,234 --> 00:40:13,106 When I first met her, we embraced 743 00:40:13,193 --> 00:40:14,803 and I told her we were gonna fight 744 00:40:14,890 --> 00:40:17,110 to make sure that justice was won. 745 00:40:17,197 --> 00:40:19,808 I took her case back to Birmingham 746 00:40:19,895 --> 00:40:22,202 to the Southern Negro Youth Congress. 747 00:40:22,289 --> 00:40:25,161 And we made that one of our major projects 748 00:40:25,248 --> 00:40:27,294 using her as an example 749 00:40:27,381 --> 00:40:29,688 of what happened to so many black women 750 00:40:29,775 --> 00:40:32,952 who didn't speak up or were afraid to speak up. 751 00:40:35,128 --> 00:40:39,045 It was dangerous for all blacks but particularly for women. 752 00:40:39,132 --> 00:40:42,701 Women were often attacked like Recy Taylor, 753 00:40:42,788 --> 00:40:47,053 raped or sometimes disappeared. 754 00:40:47,140 --> 00:40:49,055 One would have to be careful about 755 00:40:49,142 --> 00:40:51,884 what time of day that they walked. 756 00:40:51,971 --> 00:40:54,626 Young girls were very much aware of this. 757 00:40:54,713 --> 00:40:57,716 Even going to and from school, 758 00:40:57,803 --> 00:40:59,979 particularly in rural areas 759 00:41:00,066 --> 00:41:03,983 they had to make sure to not get in a car alone. 760 00:41:05,158 --> 00:41:09,205 Recy Taylor, obviously, was a very strong woman 761 00:41:09,771 --> 00:41:11,904 who spoke up 762 00:41:11,991 --> 00:41:15,081 and, um, therefore influenced 763 00:41:15,168 --> 00:41:17,213 many other women. 764 00:41:17,300 --> 00:41:21,217 The first thing I did was started writing press releases about her case 765 00:41:21,304 --> 00:41:24,438 to be distributed in all of theBlack Press. 766 00:41:24,525 --> 00:41:26,353 Also sent it to the regular press 767 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,356 but it just wasn't published. 768 00:41:29,443 --> 00:41:32,620 She was surrounded by people who wanted to get her out of there 769 00:41:32,707 --> 00:41:34,230 including Rosa Parks. 770 00:41:35,884 --> 00:41:38,104 ["Come on, come on" playing] 771 00:41:47,896 --> 00:41:51,291 Rosa took Recy to Montgomery. 772 00:41:51,378 --> 00:41:54,033 ♪ Well, come on Come on, come on ♪ 773 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,122 ♪ Don't you wanna go? ♪ 774 00:41:56,209 --> 00:41:58,385 ♪ Well, come on Come on, come on ♪ 775 00:41:58,472 --> 00:42:00,474 ♪ Don't you wanna go? ♪ 776 00:42:00,561 --> 00:42:02,955 ♪ Well, come on Come on, come on ♪ 777 00:42:03,042 --> 00:42:05,131 ♪ Don't you wanna go? ♪ 778 00:42:05,218 --> 00:42:08,613 ♪ Yes, I want to go ♪ 779 00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:12,138 ♪ Well, the ship is At the landing ♪ 780 00:42:12,225 --> 00:42:15,054 [Robert Corbitt] Rosa Parks put into a boarding house. 781 00:42:15,141 --> 00:42:17,317 That's what it was called in those days. 782 00:42:17,404 --> 00:42:19,667 I remember she was on Johnson Street. 783 00:42:19,754 --> 00:42:21,451 It was in the 500 block. 784 00:42:23,628 --> 00:42:26,413 She was there with her baby and her husband. 785 00:42:26,500 --> 00:42:28,502 The three of them was there. 786 00:42:28,589 --> 00:42:30,765 ["The Ship Is At The Landing" playing] 787 00:42:37,642 --> 00:42:40,296 They had there to keep out of sight of these guys. 788 00:42:40,383 --> 00:42:42,864 They were afraid they might try to do something to them. 789 00:42:44,257 --> 00:42:46,868 At the time she was up there 790 00:42:46,955 --> 00:42:48,566 we'd had hardly no communication with her at all. 791 00:42:51,656 --> 00:42:55,268 As a matter of fact, they didn't want anybody to know where she was. 792 00:42:55,355 --> 00:42:57,575 Rosa Parks, she was protecting them. 793 00:43:06,975 --> 00:43:08,629 [woman] Orange Juice or water? 794 00:43:08,716 --> 00:43:10,936 [Rosa Parks] Water, but tea is fine. 795 00:43:11,023 --> 00:43:12,633 -[woman] All right, here we go. -[Rosa Parks] Okay. 796 00:43:14,635 --> 00:43:18,247 [man] What year did you join the NAACP? 797 00:43:18,334 --> 00:43:22,687 [Rosa Parks] It's 19... It's in December, 1933. 798 00:43:22,774 --> 00:43:26,473 [man] From the time you joined to the time you became the Secretary? 799 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,084 [Rosa Parks] It was my first day on the job. 800 00:43:29,171 --> 00:43:30,869 [both laughing] 801 00:43:30,956 --> 00:43:34,002 [man] How did that happen? 802 00:43:34,089 --> 00:43:35,700 [Rosa Parks] Well, you see, that's what happened but when I went to the 803 00:43:35,787 --> 00:43:37,876 meeting, it was going to be 804 00:43:37,963 --> 00:43:40,661 the Annual Election Day. 805 00:43:41,314 --> 00:43:44,534 So, I paid my membership 806 00:43:44,622 --> 00:43:48,060 and then they had election of officers. [chuckles] 807 00:43:48,147 --> 00:43:50,584 [man] And how many people were there? 808 00:43:50,671 --> 00:43:54,414 [Rosa Parks] I guess about ten-- between a dozen and 15. 809 00:43:54,501 --> 00:43:57,460 Just as you know, And I was the only woman there. 810 00:43:57,547 --> 00:44:00,463 [man] So, you got to be the Secretary there 'cause you were a woman. 811 00:44:00,550 --> 00:44:04,598 [Rosa Parks] Well, no. They just said they needed a Secretary. 812 00:44:04,685 --> 00:44:08,602 And I think the only reason that I was 813 00:44:08,689 --> 00:44:11,170 too timid to say no. 814 00:44:11,257 --> 00:44:13,955 And I just started taking minutes. 815 00:44:14,042 --> 00:44:18,003 That was the way I was elected Secretary. [chuckles] 816 00:44:18,090 --> 00:44:20,092 [Crystal Feimste] She didn't just come out of nowhere. 817 00:44:20,179 --> 00:44:22,616 People were introduced to Rosa Parks for the first time. 818 00:44:22,703 --> 00:44:25,967 She's Rosa, who didn't give up her seat on the bus. 819 00:44:26,054 --> 00:44:30,624 They already imagined her as this elderly states woman, right. 820 00:44:30,711 --> 00:44:33,192 With her beautiful silver gray hair. 821 00:44:33,279 --> 00:44:34,889 Um, but she was actually quite young. 822 00:44:34,976 --> 00:44:37,283 She had a long history of protest 823 00:44:37,370 --> 00:44:39,459 and grass-roots organizing. 824 00:44:39,546 --> 00:44:42,984 She learned how to be an activist through her family 825 00:44:43,071 --> 00:44:44,725 and her family politics, 826 00:44:44,812 --> 00:44:47,946 her grandfather in particular, was a role model for her. 827 00:44:48,033 --> 00:44:51,645 He was someone who would not tolerate oppression 828 00:44:51,732 --> 00:44:54,779 and believed that his children and his children's children 829 00:44:54,866 --> 00:44:57,782 shouldn't have to submit to white supremacy. 830 00:44:57,869 --> 00:45:00,698 She'd already been to Highlander School 831 00:45:00,785 --> 00:45:04,136 and had training on 'how do you engage in public protest.' 832 00:45:04,223 --> 00:45:06,138 So, it wasn't a long leap for her 833 00:45:06,225 --> 00:45:09,228 to join the NAACP 834 00:45:09,315 --> 00:45:11,883 and begin to fight for civil rights for black people in the South. 835 00:45:21,849 --> 00:45:25,766 The Committee for Equal Justice for Mrs. Recy Taylor, 836 00:45:25,853 --> 00:45:28,160 Rosa Parks doesn't serve on the Committee, 837 00:45:28,247 --> 00:45:31,816 but she creates an environment where people in the community come together. 838 00:45:31,903 --> 00:45:35,602 They are the leaders of their destiny. 839 00:45:37,952 --> 00:45:40,694 That's something black women 840 00:45:40,781 --> 00:45:43,001 bring to the movement at every level. 841 00:45:44,654 --> 00:45:48,136 The press is gonna be a key tool. 842 00:45:48,223 --> 00:45:51,183 Um, and getting their story out there, 843 00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:53,185 the more people who know, 844 00:45:53,272 --> 00:45:55,317 the better it is for their case. 845 00:45:55,404 --> 00:45:57,406 And they also know the South. 846 00:45:57,493 --> 00:46:00,409 The South does not respond well 847 00:46:00,496 --> 00:46:03,369 to outside press, right? 848 00:46:03,456 --> 00:46:05,719 So, if they can get that story out there 849 00:46:05,806 --> 00:46:08,591 and that's why the sheriff is there from the get-go. 850 00:46:08,678 --> 00:46:11,551 He doesn't want Rosa to leave with that story 851 00:46:11,638 --> 00:46:13,335 because he knows what it means 852 00:46:13,422 --> 00:46:17,470 for that story to leave Abbeville, right. 853 00:46:17,557 --> 00:46:19,646 Um, it means, that people are gonna come in, 854 00:46:19,733 --> 00:46:21,953 there's gonna be investigations, there's gonna be pressure. 855 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,782 And that they're gonna have to defend their actions. 856 00:46:26,522 --> 00:46:28,568 Rosa Parks is operating 857 00:46:28,655 --> 00:46:31,440 from a place where rape is a crime. 858 00:46:31,527 --> 00:46:33,878 And the rape of a black woman is illegally a crime, 859 00:46:33,965 --> 00:46:38,317 even if custom and tradition doesn't allow for that. 860 00:46:39,361 --> 00:46:41,363 With Recy's case, we see 861 00:46:41,450 --> 00:46:43,757 she get's a hearing. 862 00:46:43,844 --> 00:46:45,585 But it's not a fair hearing and they understand that. 863 00:46:45,672 --> 00:46:47,717 That it's going through the motions. 864 00:46:47,805 --> 00:46:51,025 And then when that hearing comes to a close, 865 00:46:51,112 --> 00:46:53,767 we don't get justice for Recy. 866 00:46:53,854 --> 00:46:57,249 So, what does the... What does the Committee want next? 867 00:46:57,336 --> 00:46:59,773 They want a fair hearing, right? [chuckles] 868 00:46:59,860 --> 00:47:01,383 So, they... they... 869 00:47:01,470 --> 00:47:03,168 It's like they beat that horse they're in. 870 00:47:03,255 --> 00:47:06,040 We want a fair hearing. 871 00:47:06,127 --> 00:47:09,087 And the only way to get that is to pressure. 872 00:47:12,090 --> 00:47:13,918 Through letter writing, 873 00:47:17,008 --> 00:47:18,574 through the press. 874 00:47:22,665 --> 00:47:27,322 [Esther Cooper Jackson] Most events happening in black life were not published 875 00:47:27,409 --> 00:47:30,151 in the daily papers. 876 00:47:30,238 --> 00:47:33,415 The major newspapers in the country and major magazines 877 00:47:33,502 --> 00:47:35,591 didn't mention it. 878 00:47:35,678 --> 00:47:38,638 The only place we really were able to publish 879 00:47:38,725 --> 00:47:40,858 articles about Recy and the others 880 00:47:40,945 --> 00:47:44,426 was through The Chicago Defender, The Pittsburgh Courier, 881 00:47:44,513 --> 00:47:46,298 The Amsterdam News, 882 00:47:46,385 --> 00:47:48,691 The Baltimore, et cetera, 883 00:47:48,778 --> 00:47:50,432 through theBlack Press. 884 00:48:05,926 --> 00:48:08,929 [Crystal Feimster] TheBlack Press is a protest paper. 885 00:48:09,016 --> 00:48:10,888 It's trying to counter 886 00:48:10,975 --> 00:48:12,846 what the white press is publishing. 887 00:48:12,933 --> 00:48:14,761 It is a lifeline for the movement. 888 00:48:14,848 --> 00:48:16,763 It's how you get people to join the movement, 889 00:48:16,850 --> 00:48:18,678 it's how you get people to understand 890 00:48:18,765 --> 00:48:20,854 that their issues are connected. 891 00:48:20,941 --> 00:48:25,685 So, what happens in Montgomery matters in Mississippi. 892 00:48:28,035 --> 00:48:30,298 It's gonna make a huge difference 893 00:48:30,385 --> 00:48:32,605 once it's on the national radar 894 00:48:32,692 --> 00:48:35,086 because in the South there is a culture of silent. 895 00:48:37,088 --> 00:48:39,699 What happened to Recy? 896 00:48:39,786 --> 00:48:42,441 How common is this? What can we do as a community 897 00:48:42,528 --> 00:48:45,009 to publicize this, to ensure that Recy is gonna have justice? 898 00:48:45,096 --> 00:48:49,839 So that, her case just doesn't disappear. 899 00:48:49,927 --> 00:48:52,668 [Danielle L. McGuire] The Committee for Equal Justice was largely 900 00:48:52,755 --> 00:48:54,888 waging a publicity campaign 901 00:48:54,975 --> 00:48:58,500 and trying to shame the state of Alabama, 902 00:48:59,110 --> 00:49:00,894 uh, for their failure 903 00:49:00,981 --> 00:49:04,680 to really properly investigate and prosecute her case. 904 00:49:04,767 --> 00:49:08,293 What they ask people to do is send letters to the Governor 905 00:49:08,380 --> 00:49:10,512 demanding an investigation, 906 00:49:10,599 --> 00:49:12,297 demanding a trial. 907 00:49:12,384 --> 00:49:15,300 And they send postcards and petitions 908 00:49:15,387 --> 00:49:19,086 to hold the assailants accountable by the thousands. 909 00:49:19,173 --> 00:49:21,045 And these postcards come from all over the country. 910 00:49:21,132 --> 00:49:23,569 So the newspapers are really instrumental 911 00:49:23,656 --> 00:49:25,005 in spreading the story. 912 00:49:25,092 --> 00:49:26,746 And the Committee itself 913 00:49:26,833 --> 00:49:29,749 is really instrumental in getting people to 914 00:49:29,836 --> 00:49:32,447 send in petitions and postcards. 915 00:49:32,534 --> 00:49:35,407 There is a massive Harlem rally 916 00:49:35,494 --> 00:49:38,018 for Recy Taylor at the Hotel Theresa 917 00:49:38,105 --> 00:49:40,934 which is one of the, sort of, iconic hotels in Harlem 918 00:49:41,021 --> 00:49:44,068 that Muhammad Ali would stay at and others. 919 00:49:44,155 --> 00:49:47,854 And they hold the rally for Recy Taylor in the ballroom. 920 00:49:47,941 --> 00:49:50,161 And, you know, hundreds of people come. 921 00:49:50,248 --> 00:49:54,992 People from all walks of the Black Freedom Movement in the 1940s. 922 00:49:55,079 --> 00:49:58,517 Leftists, communist, liberals, progressives, 923 00:49:58,604 --> 00:50:02,347 they're all there and they all chip in money 924 00:50:02,434 --> 00:50:07,656 to help spread the word of the terror that is in Alabama. 925 00:50:07,743 --> 00:50:10,137 It's part of, kind of, 926 00:50:10,224 --> 00:50:12,096 infrastructure of injustice 927 00:50:12,183 --> 00:50:15,316 where the white press ignores these kinds of crimes 928 00:50:15,403 --> 00:50:17,275 and then, 929 00:50:17,362 --> 00:50:20,234 and then there is no record of them happening, which gives 930 00:50:21,279 --> 00:50:23,281 judges and juries 931 00:50:23,368 --> 00:50:25,631 plausible deniability of any knowledge 932 00:50:25,718 --> 00:50:29,026 and maybe this is a rumor, you know, it's not even in the newspaper. 933 00:50:29,113 --> 00:50:31,680 And that's why it's so important that theBlack Press 934 00:50:31,767 --> 00:50:33,595 publishes these stories. 935 00:50:35,815 --> 00:50:38,035 [Crystal Feimster] This is a long tradition 936 00:50:38,122 --> 00:50:40,428 from Frederik Douglass' newspaper to Ida B. Wells, 937 00:50:40,515 --> 00:50:44,563 the black people understand that the press is a weapon. 938 00:50:45,781 --> 00:50:48,306 They might not be able to assault somebody with a gun 939 00:50:48,393 --> 00:50:50,830 and get justice, but that the pen is a weapon. 940 00:50:50,917 --> 00:50:53,746 That if we can narrate our stories, 941 00:50:53,833 --> 00:50:56,053 then we actually have a chance. 942 00:50:57,837 --> 00:51:00,622 They have no feeling for a colored girl, Peter. 943 00:51:00,709 --> 00:51:03,495 No, not a speck. 944 00:51:03,582 --> 00:51:07,151 When one of us even walks past on the street, they whistle 945 00:51:07,238 --> 00:51:09,153 and say all kinds of things out loud 946 00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:11,677 just as if we weren't there at all. 947 00:51:11,764 --> 00:51:14,201 They... They don't care. 948 00:51:15,072 --> 00:51:16,725 We're just... 949 00:51:17,335 --> 00:51:18,988 just colored women. 950 00:51:22,253 --> 00:51:25,821 [Crystal Feimster] Race films taking on white supremacy. 951 00:51:25,908 --> 00:51:28,389 This is very similar to theBlack Press. 952 00:51:30,261 --> 00:51:33,046 You have Oscar Micheaux's Within Our Gates 953 00:51:33,133 --> 00:51:36,745 targeting lynching and sexual assault 954 00:51:36,832 --> 00:51:40,184 that plays with both lynching of a family, 955 00:51:40,271 --> 00:51:42,186 a black woman and a black man 956 00:51:42,273 --> 00:51:44,666 and also the sexual assault 957 00:51:44,753 --> 00:51:48,017 of a biracial woman 958 00:51:48,105 --> 00:51:50,019 who actually turns out to be the daughter of the man who's trying to rape her. 959 00:51:51,847 --> 00:51:55,068 Race films made for black audiences were popular 960 00:51:55,155 --> 00:51:58,202 because they got to see a diversity 961 00:51:58,289 --> 00:52:00,204 of black characters 962 00:52:00,291 --> 00:52:02,728 who's not the Sambo or the Jezebel. 963 00:52:05,078 --> 00:52:07,254 Black people felt like it was more authentic 964 00:52:07,341 --> 00:52:09,561 even if it was fictional. 965 00:52:09,648 --> 00:52:12,868 They wanted to see that without the white gaze. 966 00:52:17,134 --> 00:52:20,049 If we go back to slavery and what black women 967 00:52:20,833 --> 00:52:23,096 could claim, right, 968 00:52:23,183 --> 00:52:24,576 they couldn't claim 969 00:52:24,663 --> 00:52:26,404 legal recourse. 970 00:52:26,491 --> 00:52:29,537 There were no laws in place that would protect them. 971 00:52:29,624 --> 00:52:31,931 Recy's case, is one of the first 972 00:52:32,018 --> 00:52:35,195 that pushes equal access to the court. 973 00:52:35,282 --> 00:52:38,633 They go back to the Governor and they say, "We want another hearing." 974 00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:40,331 And they pressure, and they pressure. 975 00:52:40,418 --> 00:52:43,595 It's that pressure from outside the state, 976 00:52:43,682 --> 00:52:46,206 from New York, and California, and Michigan, 977 00:52:46,293 --> 00:52:49,209 from labor unions, and longshoreman, 978 00:52:49,296 --> 00:52:52,038 auto workers from all around the country. 979 00:52:52,125 --> 00:52:55,128 It's their petitions for justice 980 00:52:55,215 --> 00:52:58,349 that finally moved Governor Chauncey Sparks, 981 00:52:58,436 --> 00:53:01,178 to hire private investigators 982 00:53:01,265 --> 00:53:03,397 to go to Abbeville to see what really happened. 983 00:53:33,035 --> 00:53:36,125 [Crystal Feimster] She has witnesses. 984 00:53:36,213 --> 00:53:39,651 She has a woman and her son who were walking with her from the church. 985 00:53:39,738 --> 00:53:42,654 They report her abduction right away. 986 00:53:42,741 --> 00:53:44,221 The police are there 987 00:53:44,308 --> 00:53:46,701 when her father and her husband 988 00:53:46,788 --> 00:53:49,704 find her staggering down the street. 989 00:53:49,791 --> 00:53:52,490 It's hard to not believe Recy. 990 00:53:52,577 --> 00:53:55,884 It's very easy for the sheriff not to do anything about it, 991 00:53:55,971 --> 00:53:59,323 without question, but you know that he knows 992 00:53:59,410 --> 00:54:01,325 and everybody knows what happened. 993 00:54:01,412 --> 00:54:04,066 And everybody knows she's not a prostitute. 994 00:54:05,067 --> 00:54:07,244 This is about us being able to hear 995 00:54:07,331 --> 00:54:09,768 and the stories that people are willing to tell 996 00:54:09,855 --> 00:54:11,900 and they have the courage to tell. 997 00:54:13,075 --> 00:54:16,905 Recy is part of a longer tradition of black women 998 00:54:16,992 --> 00:54:19,343 saying, "This is not right." 999 00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:23,912 That not only do we deserve protection, but we deserve justice. 1000 00:54:27,786 --> 00:54:29,440 Rape, 1001 00:54:30,441 --> 00:54:32,225 is this universal thing 1002 00:54:32,312 --> 00:54:34,532 that women suffer, 1003 00:54:34,619 --> 00:54:38,492 regardless of age, race, religion, 1004 00:54:38,579 --> 00:54:40,842 sexual orientation. 1005 00:54:40,929 --> 00:54:43,105 What I think it's gonna be interesting to think about 1006 00:54:43,192 --> 00:54:48,981 is the way the legal system fails women, regularly. 1007 00:54:57,163 --> 00:54:59,774 [man] December 27th, 1944, 1008 00:54:59,861 --> 00:55:01,341 supplementary report, 1009 00:55:01,428 --> 00:55:04,039 regarding the alleged ravishing of Recy Taylor, 1010 00:55:04,126 --> 00:55:07,086 Abbeville, Alabama, by seven white boys, 1011 00:55:07,173 --> 00:55:10,132 on the night of September 3rd. 1012 00:55:10,219 --> 00:55:13,310 Report submitted by John O' Harris, Assistant Attorney General. 1013 00:55:19,141 --> 00:55:22,449 Upon arriving at Abbeville, we contacted the sheriff 1014 00:55:24,016 --> 00:55:27,062 and in his first statement he told the investigators 1015 00:55:27,149 --> 00:55:29,413 that this negro was nothing but a whore 1016 00:55:29,500 --> 00:55:33,025 and that he had on one or two occasions incarcerated her. 1017 00:55:33,112 --> 00:55:35,419 But he now says that he has never arrested her 1018 00:55:35,506 --> 00:55:37,899 and committed her to jail for any offense. 1019 00:55:38,552 --> 00:55:40,815 He further stated that 1020 00:55:40,902 --> 00:55:43,775 he has never had any trouble with her or her husband 1021 00:55:43,862 --> 00:55:48,040 and that their reputation is as good as any negro's in that community. 1022 00:55:48,127 --> 00:55:50,999 The sheriff stated that he arrested all of the boys 1023 00:55:51,086 --> 00:55:53,262 but it is our off-handed opinion 1024 00:55:53,350 --> 00:55:57,658 that the sheriff never actually placed any of these defendants under arrest. 1025 00:56:01,053 --> 00:56:03,098 We decided to interview each boy 1026 00:56:03,185 --> 00:56:05,971 alleged to have had intercourse with Recy Taylor. 1027 00:56:06,058 --> 00:56:08,321 We first talked to Dillard York. 1028 00:56:08,408 --> 00:56:10,802 York said that he would tell all he knew. 1029 00:56:10,889 --> 00:56:12,847 [Dillard York] I'll tell all I know. 1030 00:56:12,934 --> 00:56:14,588 [man] And he said that he got in Wilson's car, 1031 00:56:14,675 --> 00:56:17,678 [Dillard York] I got in Wilson's car 1032 00:56:17,765 --> 00:56:19,463 in front of the Abbey theater about ten o'clock, the night she was picked up. 1033 00:56:19,550 --> 00:56:22,204 I had been to the picture show and when I went to the car, 1034 00:56:22,291 --> 00:56:25,077 Hugo Wilson and Herbert Lovett were in the car. 1035 00:56:25,164 --> 00:56:27,427 And we rode around town for a little while. 1036 00:56:27,514 --> 00:56:29,386 And then picked up Billy Howerton, 1037 00:56:29,864 --> 00:56:31,344 Robert Gamble, 1038 00:56:31,431 --> 00:56:32,476 Luther Lee, 1039 00:56:32,563 --> 00:56:34,608 and Joe Culpepper 1040 00:56:34,695 --> 00:56:37,089 on the corner of the North Cut drug store. 1041 00:56:37,176 --> 00:56:39,874 We started out on the highway leading toward Three Points 1042 00:56:39,961 --> 00:56:41,267 and picked her up. 1043 00:56:42,747 --> 00:56:44,575 We did not have her in mind 1044 00:56:44,662 --> 00:56:47,012 as I had never seen her before. 1045 00:56:47,099 --> 00:56:49,275 But I thought Billy Howerton knew her. 1046 00:56:52,191 --> 00:56:54,411 I heard Lovett ask her 1047 00:56:54,498 --> 00:56:56,587 if she was going or not and she said she would go. 1048 00:56:58,110 --> 00:56:59,807 There was no gun in the car 1049 00:56:59,894 --> 00:57:02,723 and no one put a gun on her. 1050 00:57:02,810 --> 00:57:04,856 When we got to the place where we had intercourse with her, 1051 00:57:04,943 --> 00:57:07,119 Lovett asked her to undress 1052 00:57:07,206 --> 00:57:09,382 and she undressed willingly and without protest. 1053 00:57:10,949 --> 00:57:13,342 Lovett had intercourse with her first, 1054 00:57:13,778 --> 00:57:15,388 me next, 1055 00:57:15,475 --> 00:57:16,607 Wilson next, 1056 00:57:17,303 --> 00:57:19,087 Lee next, 1057 00:57:19,174 --> 00:57:22,134 Culpepper next and Gamble last. 1058 00:57:22,221 --> 00:57:24,353 We all took off our pants and underwear 1059 00:57:24,441 --> 00:57:26,617 and left the top to our underwear on. 1060 00:57:27,531 --> 00:57:30,708 All of us used rubbers. 1061 00:57:30,795 --> 00:57:34,320 She did not say anything during the time all of us had intercourse with her 1062 00:57:34,407 --> 00:57:38,019 and she was undressed except for her shoes and stockings. 1063 00:57:39,934 --> 00:57:42,937 We let her rest between the acts of intercourse. 1064 00:57:43,024 --> 00:57:45,418 And each time she was asked if she was ready 1065 00:57:45,505 --> 00:57:48,029 before another boy had intercourse with her. 1066 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,685 After we were all dressed, 1067 00:57:51,772 --> 00:57:55,820 Lovett went to each boy, collecting money from all of us and paid her. 1068 00:57:55,907 --> 00:57:58,126 He asked her if she was satisfied 1069 00:57:58,213 --> 00:58:00,607 and she said she was satisfied. 1070 00:58:00,694 --> 00:58:03,654 And Lovett asked her if she was going to say anything about it, 1071 00:58:03,741 --> 00:58:06,483 and she told him she would not say anything about it. 1072 00:58:07,832 --> 00:58:09,747 We then got in the car 1073 00:58:09,834 --> 00:58:11,792 and put her out at the street light. 1074 00:58:11,879 --> 00:58:14,273 We walked uptown and sat on the corner 1075 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,537 at the bank for about five minutes. 1076 00:58:17,624 --> 00:58:22,107 This was the first time I had ever had anything to do with a negro woman. 1077 00:58:22,194 --> 00:58:24,326 I saw Recy Taylor at the courthouse 1078 00:58:24,413 --> 00:58:26,067 during the grand jury investigation 1079 00:58:26,154 --> 00:58:28,940 and recognized her as being 1080 00:58:29,027 --> 00:58:31,246 the woman that me and the other boys took off that night. 1081 00:58:33,118 --> 00:58:35,468 [man] The next boy we talked to was Robert Gamble 1082 00:58:35,555 --> 00:58:37,949 and his statement is substantially the same 1083 00:58:38,036 --> 00:58:40,604 as that given by Dillard York. 1084 00:58:40,691 --> 00:58:43,824 Next boy interviewed by us was Luther Lee. 1085 00:58:43,911 --> 00:58:46,740 Lee stated that they proceeded on... 1086 00:58:46,827 --> 00:58:48,089 [Luther Lee] We proceeded on to the place where we had intercourse. 1087 00:58:48,176 --> 00:58:50,439 While there, I heard Recy say 1088 00:58:50,527 --> 00:58:52,180 something about her baby and that she had to go home. 1089 00:58:54,443 --> 00:58:57,272 But Lovett is the one that told her to undress. 1090 00:58:57,359 --> 00:59:00,014 All of us had intercourse with her, except Billy Howerton. 1091 00:59:00,101 --> 00:59:05,411 And Howerton said he did not wanna have intercourse with her because the negro knew him. 1092 00:59:05,498 --> 00:59:07,718 [man] We talked with Billy Howerton. 1093 00:59:07,805 --> 00:59:10,634 He was reluctant to give us any information. 1094 00:59:10,721 --> 00:59:13,506 But finally said he would tell all he knew 1095 00:59:13,593 --> 00:59:17,771 and his statement collaborates the statements of York, Gamble and Lee 1096 00:59:17,858 --> 00:59:19,425 in all material aspects. 1097 00:59:19,512 --> 00:59:22,689 [Billy Howerton] I will tell all I know. 1098 00:59:22,776 --> 00:59:25,649 [man] He said that he did not see a blindfold on the face of Recy Taylor. 1099 00:59:25,736 --> 00:59:27,651 [Billy Howerton] I did not see a blindfold on the face of Recy Taylor. 1100 00:59:27,738 --> 00:59:30,697 But there could have been one there. 1101 00:59:30,784 --> 00:59:32,873 [man] He further stated that he did not have intercourse with Recy Taylor. 1102 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:33,047 [Billy Howerton] I did not have intercourse with Recy Taylor. 1103 00:59:34,875 --> 00:59:37,095 I did not wanna have intercourse with her 1104 00:59:37,182 --> 00:59:39,097 and I told the other boys that I knew Recy Taylor. 1105 00:59:39,184 --> 00:59:41,882 But in truth and in fact, I did not know her. 1106 00:59:41,969 --> 00:59:43,580 But just made that statement to them 1107 00:59:43,667 --> 00:59:46,408 because I did not want to have anything to do with her. 1108 00:59:46,495 --> 00:59:49,324 [man] The next one we talked to was Willie Joe Culpepper 1109 00:59:49,411 --> 00:59:52,197 He stated that he got into the automobile in the town of Abbeville... 1110 00:59:52,284 --> 00:59:55,417 [Willie Joe Culpepper] I got into the automobile in the town of Abbeville 1111 00:59:55,504 --> 00:59:59,378 with the other boys and we were talking about getting a woman. 1112 00:59:59,465 --> 01:00:02,599 And we rode out on the highway 1113 01:00:03,121 --> 01:00:04,862 toward Dothan 1114 01:00:04,949 --> 01:00:07,691 and saw two women and a man 1115 01:00:07,778 --> 01:00:09,606 walking along the highway. 1116 01:00:10,345 --> 01:00:12,304 We went down the road 1117 01:00:12,391 --> 01:00:14,436 and turned around 1118 01:00:14,523 --> 01:00:17,309 and came back and stopped the automobile. 1119 01:00:18,049 --> 01:00:20,704 Herbert Lovett had a shotgun. 1120 01:00:20,791 --> 01:00:22,575 In a few seconds, 1121 01:00:22,662 --> 01:00:25,404 Recy Taylor came to the automobile 1122 01:00:25,491 --> 01:00:30,452 with Herbert Lovett behind her with the shotgun in his hand. 1123 01:00:30,539 --> 01:00:32,629 Just before we got in the automobile, 1124 01:00:32,716 --> 01:00:36,154 I heard Recy Taylor asking the negro woman 1125 01:00:36,241 --> 01:00:38,591 and negro man, 1126 01:00:38,678 --> 01:00:40,288 one or the other, 1127 01:00:40,375 --> 01:00:42,203 to come and go with her. 1128 01:00:42,290 --> 01:00:44,249 And they said they could not go. 1129 01:00:45,554 --> 01:00:48,906 Herbert Lovett made her get out of the car 1130 01:00:48,993 --> 01:00:50,864 and we had the gun on her 1131 01:00:50,951 --> 01:00:53,258 and told her to undress. 1132 01:00:53,867 --> 01:00:56,653 And she was crying 1133 01:00:56,740 --> 01:01:00,352 and asking us to let her go home to her husband and baby. 1134 01:01:02,963 --> 01:01:04,356 When it was all over 1135 01:01:04,443 --> 01:01:06,097 and each of us dressed, 1136 01:01:06,184 --> 01:01:08,273 as did Recy Taylor, 1137 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,015 someone, I do not know who, 1138 01:01:11,102 --> 01:01:14,235 put a blindfold on Recy's face. 1139 01:01:15,846 --> 01:01:18,936 [man] And he took hold of himself hardly and said... 1140 01:01:19,023 --> 01:01:21,808 [Willie Joe Culpepper] While she was having intercourse with Herbert Lovett, 1141 01:01:21,895 --> 01:01:25,464 we walked over there to where she lay on the ground 1142 01:01:25,551 --> 01:01:28,293 and we placed some money in her hand. 1143 01:01:33,211 --> 01:01:37,215 Hugo Wilson was the driver of the automobile. 1144 01:01:37,302 --> 01:01:40,174 [man] Hugo Wilson denied he had anything to do with Recy Taylor... 1145 01:01:40,261 --> 01:01:42,263 [Hugo Wilson] I had nothin' to do with Recy Taylor on that night. 1146 01:01:42,350 --> 01:01:43,874 Stated by the other boys. 1147 01:01:43,961 --> 01:01:45,527 I was not present. 1148 01:01:45,614 --> 01:01:48,313 I know nothin' in the world about it. 1149 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,837 I was arrested the night of September 3rd, 1150 01:01:50,924 --> 01:01:53,318 and while in the automobile with the sheriff, 1151 01:01:53,405 --> 01:01:55,668 Recy Taylor was called to the automobile 1152 01:01:55,755 --> 01:01:58,453 and asked by the sheriff if I was one of the boys 1153 01:01:58,540 --> 01:02:01,152 and she said, "Yes, he is one of them." 1154 01:02:01,239 --> 01:02:03,632 I told her she was a damn liar. 1155 01:02:04,546 --> 01:02:06,723 The sheriff is a liar when he says 1156 01:02:06,810 --> 01:02:08,899 that I gave him the names of the other six boys. 1157 01:02:08,986 --> 01:02:12,119 All the other boys are liars when they say 1158 01:02:12,206 --> 01:02:14,818 that I was there at the time rest of them had intercourse with Recy Taylor 1159 01:02:14,905 --> 01:02:17,821 and that they were lying when they said that. 1160 01:02:17,908 --> 01:02:19,257 [man] The next and last boy that we talked to was Herbert Lovett. 1161 01:02:19,910 --> 01:02:21,346 He was in the army. 1162 01:02:21,433 --> 01:02:24,436 Lovett stated that 1163 01:02:24,523 --> 01:02:27,047 he knew nothing of the affair for which he was being interrogated. 1164 01:02:27,134 --> 01:02:28,788 [Herbert Lovett] I know nothing of the affair for which I am being interrogated. 1165 01:02:28,875 --> 01:02:30,921 Well, I do know I was placed under bond 1166 01:02:31,008 --> 01:02:33,793 but I was never arrested for this matter. 1167 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,143 [man] Each of the boys that did make a statement about this affair stated 1168 01:02:36,230 --> 01:02:39,016 that they did not know Recy Taylor before this night 1169 01:02:39,103 --> 01:02:42,062 and that none of them ever remembered having seen her. 1170 01:02:42,933 --> 01:02:44,761 Recy Taylor stated to us that 1171 01:02:44,848 --> 01:02:47,981 she could not identify any of these boys. 1172 01:02:48,068 --> 01:02:50,854 And if they were all put into a line up with 1173 01:02:50,941 --> 01:02:53,073 eight, 12 or 15 boys, 1174 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,728 she could not go in and pick out a single one 1175 01:02:55,815 --> 01:02:58,339 that picked her up that night and ravished her. 1176 01:02:59,210 --> 01:03:01,299 Respectfully submitted, 1177 01:03:01,386 --> 01:03:03,649 John O' Harris, Assistant Attorney General. 1178 01:03:16,793 --> 01:03:19,665 [Chris Money] It doesn't take much to get an indictment. 1179 01:03:20,535 --> 01:03:22,320 It's a one sided story, 1180 01:03:22,407 --> 01:03:25,105 so, what I mean by that is 1181 01:03:25,192 --> 01:03:27,629 when you go to the grand jury, 1182 01:03:27,716 --> 01:03:28,848 um... 1183 01:03:28,935 --> 01:03:30,458 it's secret, 1184 01:03:30,545 --> 01:03:33,592 the state only calls their witnesses. 1185 01:03:33,679 --> 01:03:35,855 It's not like the defense attorneys 1186 01:03:35,942 --> 01:03:38,902 get to cross-examine during a grand jury process. 1187 01:03:38,989 --> 01:03:41,426 It doesn't work like that. 1188 01:03:41,513 --> 01:03:43,950 The District Attorney at that time was, 1189 01:03:44,037 --> 01:03:48,346 a solicitor, I think it's what they ca... actually took the case to the grand jury, twice. 1190 01:03:48,433 --> 01:03:50,870 And never could get an indictment. 1191 01:03:51,479 --> 01:03:54,439 And as I understand it 1192 01:03:54,526 --> 01:03:58,182 Mrs. Taylor testified and they still couldn't get an indictment. 1193 01:03:58,269 --> 01:04:01,446 During those times, African-Americans could not serve. 1194 01:04:01,533 --> 01:04:05,885 There was an all white male jury. 1195 01:04:05,972 --> 01:04:08,627 I don't think the facts were the problem 1196 01:04:09,236 --> 01:04:11,499 in the Recy Taylor case. 1197 01:04:11,586 --> 01:04:13,850 I think that color had everything to do with it. 1198 01:04:21,814 --> 01:04:23,903 [Alma Daniels] They'd left that night. 1199 01:04:25,035 --> 01:04:26,732 Joined the army, 1200 01:04:27,385 --> 01:04:28,734 navy, 1201 01:04:31,737 --> 01:04:33,870 'cause you know they had done wrong. 1202 01:04:39,788 --> 01:04:42,139 [Crystal Feimster] It takes profound courage 1203 01:04:42,226 --> 01:04:44,968 to speak out. 1204 01:04:45,055 --> 01:04:46,491 This is a story that you want to share with the world. 1205 01:04:46,578 --> 01:04:49,233 There is no sense of, 1206 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:50,799 um, what did I do? 1207 01:04:50,887 --> 01:04:53,324 That's sort of, um, you know, 1208 01:04:53,411 --> 01:04:55,979 power of shame and guilt that often 1209 01:04:56,066 --> 01:04:59,547 comes with a sexual assault. 1210 01:04:59,634 --> 01:05:01,723 You know, that Recy did not have that shame. 1211 01:05:01,810 --> 01:05:03,638 She didn't have that guilt. 1212 01:05:03,725 --> 01:05:06,163 She knew that what had happened to her was a brutal assault. 1213 01:05:06,250 --> 01:05:09,340 We know that victims of rape and trauma 1214 01:05:09,427 --> 01:05:11,516 suffer all kinds of emotions 1215 01:05:11,603 --> 01:05:12,996 and that may come later, 1216 01:05:13,083 --> 01:05:15,215 but it doesn't come in those moments 1217 01:05:15,302 --> 01:05:19,176 where she is prepared to speak out about what happened to her. 1218 01:05:19,263 --> 01:05:22,483 It's about saying that I am a woman, 1219 01:05:22,570 --> 01:05:25,617 and that I have a right to consent 1220 01:05:25,704 --> 01:05:30,361 and that when I do not consent, it is a crime 1221 01:05:30,448 --> 01:05:33,364 and that, you know, there's hell to pay. 1222 01:05:33,451 --> 01:05:37,934 Luther got a pretty bad whipping 1223 01:05:38,021 --> 01:05:40,937 for something that I never did know what it was. 1224 01:05:41,024 --> 01:05:44,027 My dad worked him over. 1225 01:05:44,114 --> 01:05:47,465 Not with his fist, you know, he had a strap. 1226 01:05:47,552 --> 01:05:50,859 Luther actually, ran around 1227 01:05:50,947 --> 01:05:54,733 with good people that had too much time on the hands. 1228 01:05:54,820 --> 01:05:58,737 You know, time is a devil's workshop. 1229 01:05:58,824 --> 01:06:02,219 I liked every one of 'em. I liked all of 'em. 1230 01:06:02,306 --> 01:06:04,221 With the whole... if... 1231 01:06:04,308 --> 01:06:07,398 I never did know exactly what it was, like I told you. 1232 01:06:07,485 --> 01:06:09,661 But I knew there was something, but... 1233 01:06:11,402 --> 01:06:13,752 We didn't have any... 1234 01:06:13,839 --> 01:06:14,971 Abbeville, 1235 01:06:15,058 --> 01:06:17,060 would not tell on anybody else. 1236 01:06:17,147 --> 01:06:18,931 Dillard was 1237 01:06:19,018 --> 01:06:22,761 in with the group that was always up to something. 1238 01:06:22,848 --> 01:06:25,590 It wasn't jail time, but they, 1239 01:06:25,677 --> 01:06:27,853 they got their share of 1240 01:06:27,940 --> 01:06:31,117 carrying on, you know, doing things that 1241 01:06:31,204 --> 01:06:32,597 kids would do. 1242 01:06:32,684 --> 01:06:35,121 Lewey Corbitt was the sheriff there. 1243 01:06:35,208 --> 01:06:36,731 One of the nicest. 1244 01:06:36,818 --> 01:06:39,821 If he put you in jail, 1245 01:06:40,387 --> 01:06:42,172 you had to go. 1246 01:06:42,259 --> 01:06:43,782 He'd give you every break. 1247 01:06:43,869 --> 01:06:45,784 He was married to Aunt Suzie. 1248 01:06:46,698 --> 01:06:49,222 And she was Mother's sister. 1249 01:06:49,309 --> 01:06:52,008 But Uncle Lewey, uh, 1250 01:06:52,095 --> 01:06:53,748 never lost an election. 1251 01:06:53,835 --> 01:06:57,274 He didn't even have to get out on politics 1252 01:06:57,361 --> 01:06:59,798 because everybody knew who he was. 1253 01:06:59,885 --> 01:07:02,801 So, here we have a grand jury 1254 01:07:02,888 --> 01:07:05,760 made up of local white men, 1255 01:07:05,847 --> 01:07:09,851 farmers, business owners, sharecroppers, 1256 01:07:09,938 --> 01:07:13,290 being asked to indict their sons, 1257 01:07:13,377 --> 01:07:15,596 their neighbors, their brothers. 1258 01:07:15,683 --> 01:07:18,512 You know, local boys 1259 01:07:18,599 --> 01:07:21,211 who for all intents and purposes in their minds, at least 1260 01:07:21,298 --> 01:07:24,257 were just trying to have a little fun and got carried away. 1261 01:07:24,344 --> 01:07:26,129 They were never gonna indict 1262 01:07:26,216 --> 01:07:27,739 Recy Taylor's rapists. 1263 01:07:37,444 --> 01:07:41,057 [Robert Corbitt] My father lived right just across the street from 1264 01:07:41,448 --> 01:07:43,102 the Howertons. 1265 01:07:43,189 --> 01:07:45,191 And Billy Howerton 1266 01:07:45,278 --> 01:07:47,672 was in and out of the house, but he was, 1267 01:07:47,759 --> 01:07:50,762 seemed to be pretty, kind of, shy guy. 1268 01:07:50,849 --> 01:07:53,852 He'd never look in our directions. 1269 01:07:53,939 --> 01:07:57,551 Recy did see Billy Howerton after the rape. 1270 01:07:57,638 --> 01:07:59,249 But they wouldn't make 1271 01:07:59,336 --> 01:08:01,251 eye contact with each other. 1272 01:08:01,338 --> 01:08:03,340 Even as a kid, at that time, 1273 01:08:03,427 --> 01:08:05,037 I was expecting something bad to happen, 1274 01:08:05,124 --> 01:08:07,170 but they stayed distant away from me. 1275 01:08:07,257 --> 01:08:09,215 And they know my father always 1276 01:08:09,302 --> 01:08:12,218 had his shotgun handy. 1277 01:08:12,305 --> 01:08:15,178 So, I think they were a little afraid of him. 1278 01:08:15,265 --> 01:08:18,311 He believed in that double barrel shotgun. [chuckles] 1279 01:08:19,269 --> 01:08:20,879 We have, you know, 1280 01:08:20,966 --> 01:08:24,100 black men in her family, her husband and her father 1281 01:08:24,187 --> 01:08:26,145 who were unable to protect her, right? 1282 01:08:26,232 --> 01:08:27,712 They're no longer... They don't have 1283 01:08:27,799 --> 01:08:31,411 access to kind of the traditional, um... 1284 01:08:31,498 --> 01:08:33,196 the traditional mechanisms of manhood 1285 01:08:33,283 --> 01:08:36,547 being able to protect your wife and your daughter. 1286 01:08:36,634 --> 01:08:40,116 White men are always in a position to protect 1287 01:08:41,117 --> 01:08:42,640 their wives and daughters, right. 1288 01:08:42,727 --> 01:08:45,338 It becomes the justification for lynching. 1289 01:08:45,425 --> 01:08:47,558 We had a good relationship 1290 01:08:47,645 --> 01:08:49,908 with the blacks and I knew 1291 01:08:49,995 --> 01:08:52,258 a great number of them in town. 1292 01:08:52,345 --> 01:08:54,869 The blacks and the whites... 1293 01:08:56,915 --> 01:08:59,526 They knew they were blacks and they knew they were whites, 1294 01:08:59,613 --> 01:09:01,833 but they were friends. 1295 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,096 Yes, we knew the Wilsons before the rape 1296 01:09:04,183 --> 01:09:07,578 and also know Hugo before the rape 1297 01:09:07,665 --> 01:09:11,103 because they owned a taxi cab fleet. 1298 01:09:11,190 --> 01:09:12,278 It was, uh... 1299 01:09:12,931 --> 01:09:14,846 Wilson call Wilson cab. 1300 01:09:14,933 --> 01:09:17,762 I can't remember the old man's name 1301 01:09:17,849 --> 01:09:20,808 but we used to call him Bulldog Wilson 'cause he 1302 01:09:20,895 --> 01:09:24,464 was out of shape, like a bulldog. 1303 01:09:25,073 --> 01:09:27,119 And, uh... 1304 01:09:27,206 --> 01:09:30,775 I would deliver groceries to their house. 1305 01:09:30,862 --> 01:09:35,127 My father told me not to talk to the Wilsons. 1306 01:09:35,214 --> 01:09:38,348 Give them a yes or a no and leave. 1307 01:09:38,435 --> 01:09:42,221 Recy was like a mother-sister to me, she raised me. 1308 01:09:42,308 --> 01:09:44,832 I didn't feel good about it at all. 1309 01:09:46,747 --> 01:09:50,098 [Danielle L. McGuire] So, it's never the same as enduring a rape. 1310 01:09:50,186 --> 01:09:52,318 The effect on the husband is never the same, 1311 01:09:52,405 --> 01:09:55,147 uh, as it is on the woman who had to endure the rape. 1312 01:09:55,234 --> 01:10:00,370 But it's used as a political weapon all around the world 1313 01:10:00,457 --> 01:10:04,722 to undermine, um, men 1314 01:10:04,809 --> 01:10:06,985 and their positions in society. 1315 01:10:08,204 --> 01:10:11,076 When I think about Robert Corbitt, for example, 1316 01:10:12,251 --> 01:10:15,602 and the ways in which he internalized 1317 01:10:15,689 --> 01:10:18,344 the rape of his sister, Recy Taylor, 1318 01:10:20,172 --> 01:10:23,784 it really gets to the way sexual violence 1319 01:10:23,871 --> 01:10:28,180 terrorizes people, not just the victims. 1320 01:10:28,267 --> 01:10:31,314 It's what motivates him today to help 1321 01:10:31,401 --> 01:10:33,751 get his sister's story out into the world. 1322 01:10:33,838 --> 01:10:37,145 I get by only without them knowing it. [chuckles] 1323 01:10:37,233 --> 01:10:40,584 I would never let them know that I was inquiring about them. 1324 01:10:40,671 --> 01:10:45,502 I would just be talking to him, I'd say, "How is Luther Lee? Is he still around?" 1325 01:10:45,589 --> 01:10:52,030 My brother Luther Lee left to join the Navy when he was 17. 1326 01:10:52,117 --> 01:10:57,862 And he stayed in there a while and then got out and then went back 1327 01:10:57,949 --> 01:10:59,864 and stayed till he was retired. 1328 01:10:59,951 --> 01:11:05,130 And that made him be in World War II 1329 01:11:06,349 --> 01:11:08,916 and the Korean War 1330 01:11:09,003 --> 01:11:11,397 and the Vietnam War. 1331 01:11:11,484 --> 01:11:17,360 My brother Dillard York was the oldest and, uh, 1332 01:11:17,447 --> 01:11:22,365 he finished high school in Abbeville and joined the Navy in World War II. 1333 01:11:22,452 --> 01:11:25,542 He had the Purple Heart from being wounded 1334 01:11:25,629 --> 01:11:32,375 and he served as the chief recorder 1335 01:11:32,462 --> 01:11:34,420 for the Korean peace talks. 1336 01:11:34,507 --> 01:11:37,380 I knew Joe Culpepper. 1337 01:11:37,467 --> 01:11:40,731 He later on went on to service 1338 01:11:40,818 --> 01:11:44,212 and when he did he was in the Korean War 1339 01:11:44,300 --> 01:11:48,782 and they captured him and he stayed in prison for a long time. 1340 01:11:48,869 --> 01:11:51,394 He was a Korean War prisoner. 1341 01:11:51,481 --> 01:11:54,092 And he came back as a hero. 1342 01:11:54,179 --> 01:11:58,009 From talking to him afterwards, it was just the 1343 01:11:58,096 --> 01:12:00,881 experience of seeing all the 1344 01:12:01,752 --> 01:12:04,755 people that was killed at Pearl Harbor 1345 01:12:04,842 --> 01:12:07,192 and all the devastation there 1346 01:12:08,236 --> 01:12:10,891 just changed his mind about the life. 1347 01:12:11,849 --> 01:12:14,330 He married a girl from Japan. 1348 01:12:15,983 --> 01:12:17,637 That went over great. 1349 01:12:21,119 --> 01:12:23,339 Lewey Corbitt told, um, 1350 01:12:24,078 --> 01:12:25,950 told my father that 1351 01:12:26,037 --> 01:12:28,909 two of these guys had got killed. 1352 01:12:28,996 --> 01:12:31,129 He was told that, uh, 1353 01:12:31,216 --> 01:12:33,349 one guy killed in a car accident, 1354 01:12:33,436 --> 01:12:36,526 and one guy killed at a man's house going 1355 01:12:36,613 --> 01:12:38,310 with another man's wife. 1356 01:12:38,658 --> 01:12:40,007 This, uh... 1357 01:12:40,094 --> 01:12:42,445 So, we presumed that had happened. 1358 01:12:42,532 --> 01:12:44,272 So, years later, 1359 01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:47,537 we just find out that those guys didn't die until... 1360 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:51,323 Well, one of them died in 2010. 1361 01:12:51,410 --> 01:12:53,238 Well, that was part of the cover up. 1362 01:12:53,325 --> 01:12:57,024 What happens to Recy's case after the second grand jury? 1363 01:12:57,111 --> 01:13:00,376 Nothing, nothing happens to Recy Taylor's case. 1364 01:13:00,463 --> 01:13:03,944 The Committee for Equal Justice for Mrs. Recy Taylor, 1365 01:13:04,031 --> 01:13:06,991 regroups as the Committee for Equal Justice. 1366 01:13:07,078 --> 01:13:10,560 And because crimes like this happen again, and again, and again, 1367 01:13:10,647 --> 01:13:13,519 across the South. 1368 01:13:13,606 --> 01:13:15,347 They organized to defend another black woman in another state 1369 01:13:15,434 --> 01:13:18,002 whose been assaulted by a group of white men. 1370 01:13:18,089 --> 01:13:20,831 It's common in a lot of social movements 1371 01:13:20,918 --> 01:13:25,357 for victims of crimes to be used as symbols, 1372 01:13:25,444 --> 01:13:28,795 as figures that people can rally around, 1373 01:13:28,882 --> 01:13:33,147 and then when they become less useful, the organization moves on. 1374 01:13:33,234 --> 01:13:35,585 It's really a tragedy because 1375 01:13:35,672 --> 01:13:39,415 I don't think Recy Taylor really knew the extent to which 1376 01:13:39,502 --> 01:13:42,679 so many people around the country rallied to her defense 1377 01:13:42,766 --> 01:13:47,727 and took comfort and courage from her brave testimony. 1378 01:13:47,814 --> 01:13:50,121 But she also didn't really know 1379 01:13:50,208 --> 01:13:52,079 when they decided to move on 1380 01:13:52,166 --> 01:13:54,081 because no one consulted with her. 1381 01:14:04,135 --> 01:14:06,093 She goes on with her life. 1382 01:14:06,180 --> 01:14:09,096 She goes on living. She's back in Abbeville 1383 01:14:09,183 --> 01:14:14,275 and the attention has moved elsewhere. 1384 01:14:14,362 --> 01:14:17,844 And I think she's largely forgotten about. 1385 01:14:17,931 --> 01:14:19,977 And she leads a very hard life 1386 01:14:20,630 --> 01:14:22,545 as a sharecropper, 1387 01:14:22,632 --> 01:14:25,504 she moves to Florida to pick oranges, 1388 01:14:25,591 --> 01:14:27,680 her marriage ends, 1389 01:14:27,767 --> 01:14:30,596 her daughter dies in a tragic car accident. 1390 01:14:35,645 --> 01:14:38,474 She suffers enormously 1391 01:14:38,561 --> 01:14:39,910 because of what happened to her and then what comes later. 1392 01:14:39,997 --> 01:14:41,825 But there's no justice in the case. 1393 01:14:41,912 --> 01:14:43,566 There's never justice in the case. 1394 01:14:50,660 --> 01:14:53,706 You're asking me to talk about something now 1395 01:14:54,707 --> 01:14:58,363 that, uh, I'm uncomfortable talking about. 1396 01:15:00,017 --> 01:15:01,540 People are still living. 1397 01:15:02,933 --> 01:15:04,674 I have to still live here. 1398 01:15:05,718 --> 01:15:08,112 A book came out that, uh, 1399 01:15:08,199 --> 01:15:10,157 told about the... 1400 01:15:10,244 --> 01:15:13,552 the Recy Taylor situation. 1401 01:15:14,248 --> 01:15:16,424 A young black lady 1402 01:15:17,164 --> 01:15:19,471 was allegedly raped 1403 01:15:20,428 --> 01:15:22,779 by six or seven young white boys. 1404 01:15:22,866 --> 01:15:29,046 It incited some people in the northern area of the country. 1405 01:15:29,133 --> 01:15:32,832 They began giving some local people here 1406 01:15:32,919 --> 01:15:35,574 some heavy harassment. 1407 01:15:35,661 --> 01:15:39,273 There was conflict and testimony in that situation. 1408 01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:42,102 I don't know rightly or wrongly. 1409 01:15:42,189 --> 01:15:43,713 I'm not here to judge. 1410 01:15:44,409 --> 01:15:46,542 But, I'm just a historian. 1411 01:15:47,673 --> 01:15:48,805 But, uh... 1412 01:15:50,371 --> 01:15:53,070 not professionally trained, I might add. 1413 01:15:54,245 --> 01:15:57,857 Finally, our local representative in the Legislature 1414 01:15:59,206 --> 01:16:01,469 decided to, uh, 1415 01:16:03,254 --> 01:16:05,561 to maybe, you know, helped 1416 01:16:06,257 --> 01:16:09,652 both sides of the situation 1417 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:11,349 calm down. 1418 01:16:13,177 --> 01:16:16,920 He had an Act introduced in the Alabama Legislature, 1419 01:16:17,007 --> 01:16:21,141 officially giving Recy Taylor an apology. 1420 01:16:37,810 --> 01:16:41,379 [Crystal Feimster] Often times, the cases like Recy Taylor 1421 01:16:41,466 --> 01:16:44,556 seems like a break from tradition 1422 01:16:44,643 --> 01:16:47,037 because we've ignored those stories. 1423 01:16:47,124 --> 01:16:50,040 We've refused to hear those voices. 1424 01:16:50,127 --> 01:16:52,216 In the end, what makes her story 1425 01:16:52,303 --> 01:16:54,697 is these connections to Rosa Parks 1426 01:16:54,784 --> 01:16:58,570 and these longer histories of black women speaking out. 1427 01:16:59,963 --> 01:17:03,488 On the 5th of December 1955, 1428 01:17:06,317 --> 01:17:08,624 a fine, dignified, 1429 01:17:09,799 --> 01:17:13,629 disciplined, courageous seamstress from this community 1430 01:17:15,761 --> 01:17:18,634 sitting down on a bus. 1431 01:17:20,548 --> 01:17:24,727 Sister Rosa Parks with dignity and discipline, 1432 01:17:24,814 --> 01:17:28,774 said in substance that the cup of endurance has run over. 1433 01:17:30,515 --> 01:17:32,560 I can take it no longer. 1434 01:17:35,302 --> 01:17:37,827 Martin Luther, back in the 16th century, who said, 1435 01:17:37,914 --> 01:17:41,482 "Here I stand and I can do none other, so help be God." 1436 01:17:41,569 --> 01:17:44,703 It was Rosa Parks, on the 1st of December, who said, 1437 01:17:44,790 --> 01:17:48,881 "Here I sit and I can do none other, so help me God." 1438 01:17:48,968 --> 01:17:52,493 [Crystal Feimster] If we go back to those images from that time period, 1439 01:17:52,580 --> 01:17:54,844 images that are of Martin, 1440 01:17:54,931 --> 01:17:58,021 you know, the speaking and with his beautiful voice, 1441 01:17:58,108 --> 01:17:59,500 who do we see in those images? 1442 01:17:59,587 --> 01:18:01,328 We see women, black women 1443 01:18:01,415 --> 01:18:03,896 walking, walking, pounding the pavement. 1444 01:18:03,983 --> 01:18:05,811 We see black women in the churches 1445 01:18:06,899 --> 01:18:09,075 with the fans, singing. 1446 01:18:09,162 --> 01:18:11,121 So, that the women are there. 1447 01:18:11,208 --> 01:18:13,166 And the women have always been there. 1448 01:18:13,253 --> 01:18:15,603 And they're gonna remain there, right? 1449 01:18:15,691 --> 01:18:18,389 The shock troops are on the ground. 1450 01:18:18,476 --> 01:18:21,392 They're educating their daughters on how to stay safe 1451 01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:23,220 when they work in these homes. 1452 01:18:23,307 --> 01:18:24,612 They're pressing charges. 1453 01:18:24,700 --> 01:18:26,789 Like, they don't stop doing 1454 01:18:26,876 --> 01:18:28,094 what they've been doing. 1455 01:18:28,181 --> 01:18:29,835 But, we can't see them 1456 01:18:29,922 --> 01:18:33,317 because the light is on Martin, it's on the man. 1457 01:18:35,188 --> 01:18:37,277 It's not surprising that 1458 01:18:37,364 --> 01:18:39,497 public transportation became a battleground 1459 01:18:39,584 --> 01:18:41,760 for black women particularly. 1460 01:18:41,847 --> 01:18:44,067 Before Jim Crow South, 1461 01:18:44,154 --> 01:18:47,723 a lot of train stations didn't actually have bathrooms 1462 01:18:47,810 --> 01:18:49,942 for people of color. 1463 01:18:50,029 --> 01:18:51,683 We often think, okay, well, there is the black one 1464 01:18:51,770 --> 01:18:54,512 and the white one. 1465 01:18:54,599 --> 01:18:56,340 But you didn't build four bathrooms in a train station. 1466 01:18:56,427 --> 01:18:58,821 There was usually two, a male and a female. 1467 01:18:58,908 --> 01:19:01,780 And so black women, middle class black women 1468 01:19:01,867 --> 01:19:04,348 in their fancy dress have to use a bathroom. 1469 01:19:04,435 --> 01:19:05,479 Where are they gonna go? 1470 01:19:05,566 --> 01:19:06,829 They go around the building, 1471 01:19:06,916 --> 01:19:08,352 they go in the woods. 1472 01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:10,180 And it's a way to kind of say, 1473 01:19:10,267 --> 01:19:12,748 "Look at these people, look at this woman, 1474 01:19:12,835 --> 01:19:15,620 she's peeing on the side of the road, 1475 01:19:15,707 --> 01:19:18,144 or she's peeing in the bushes. 1476 01:19:18,231 --> 01:19:20,364 This is not a respectable woman." 1477 01:19:20,451 --> 01:19:23,019 When black women paid for a first class ticket 1478 01:19:23,106 --> 01:19:25,064 trying to get into the ladies cars, 1479 01:19:25,151 --> 01:19:27,588 they were often physically manhandled, 1480 01:19:27,675 --> 01:19:30,766 thrown off the trains, beaten once they've gotten off the trains. 1481 01:19:30,853 --> 01:19:33,246 It was a way of saying that you're not a woman 1482 01:19:33,333 --> 01:19:35,292 and we will not treat you as a woman. 1483 01:19:39,731 --> 01:19:41,820 [Danielle L. McGuire] The entire boycott is rooted 1484 01:19:41,907 --> 01:19:44,388 in the defense of women like Recy Taylor. 1485 01:19:44,475 --> 01:19:46,999 And is propelled by black women 1486 01:19:47,086 --> 01:19:50,655 who had to endure the most horrific treatment on the buses. 1487 01:19:50,742 --> 01:19:53,049 Without those women there's no Bus Boycott. 1488 01:19:53,136 --> 01:19:55,921 I mean, they are the ones... 1489 01:19:56,008 --> 01:19:57,923 They make up 80% of the Montgomery City Lines ridership. 1490 01:19:58,010 --> 01:20:00,273 So, without them, who's gonna walk? 1491 01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:01,927 Who's gonna stay off the buses? 1492 01:20:02,014 --> 01:20:04,669 And without the Bus Boycott, I mean, we could 1493 01:20:04,756 --> 01:20:06,279 go into this long 1494 01:20:06,366 --> 01:20:07,585 'what if,' of history 1495 01:20:07,672 --> 01:20:09,239 but without the Bus Boycott, 1496 01:20:09,326 --> 01:20:10,893 there's no demonstration 1497 01:20:10,980 --> 01:20:13,809 of how non-violent social revolution happens. 1498 01:20:14,548 --> 01:20:17,203 And how powerful it can be. 1499 01:20:17,290 --> 01:20:19,205 How a boycott 1500 01:20:19,292 --> 01:20:22,165 can bring the cradle of the confederacy to its knees. 1501 01:20:22,252 --> 01:20:23,644 It's not about where you sit. 1502 01:20:23,731 --> 01:20:26,996 It's about being able to 1503 01:20:27,083 --> 01:20:29,694 go on public transportation and being sure that you're not gonna be molested. 1504 01:20:31,565 --> 01:20:33,393 What does freedom mean? 1505 01:20:33,480 --> 01:20:35,700 If you can't walk down the street 1506 01:20:35,787 --> 01:20:38,790 without being touched inappropriately or slapped, 1507 01:20:38,877 --> 01:20:40,009 or brutalized. 1508 01:20:40,096 --> 01:20:41,575 What does it mean? 1509 01:20:41,662 --> 01:20:44,927 If you could vote, or you could sit in a theater, 1510 01:20:45,014 --> 01:20:46,842 it means very little. 1511 01:20:46,929 --> 01:20:49,540 So, the buses are about a struggle for bodily integrity 1512 01:20:49,627 --> 01:20:52,848 led by women, organized by women 1513 01:20:52,935 --> 01:20:54,806 and really made possible 1514 01:20:54,893 --> 01:20:56,764 by the women who rode the buses every day 1515 01:20:56,852 --> 01:20:59,028 and then when they decided not to ride them, 1516 01:20:59,115 --> 01:21:01,204 the women who walked every day. 1517 01:21:01,291 --> 01:21:04,598 ♪ Who's that yonder Dressed in white ♪ 1518 01:21:04,685 --> 01:21:07,950 ♪ Let my people go ♪ 1519 01:21:08,037 --> 01:21:11,649 ♪ Looked like the children Of the Israelite ♪ 1520 01:21:11,736 --> 01:21:15,348 ♪ Let my people go ♪ 1521 01:21:15,435 --> 01:21:18,830 ♪ Go tell it on the mountain ♪ 1522 01:21:18,917 --> 01:21:22,616 ♪ Over the hills And everywhere ♪ 1523 01:21:22,703 --> 01:21:25,750 ♪ Go tell it on the mountain ♪ 1524 01:21:25,837 --> 01:21:29,667 ♪ To let my people go ♪ 1525 01:21:29,754 --> 01:21:31,799 [Danielle L. McGuire] These movements that we know about 1526 01:21:31,887 --> 01:21:34,150 didn't start because someone wanted to sit 1527 01:21:34,237 --> 01:21:35,978 at a lunch counter, 1528 01:21:36,065 --> 01:21:37,893 or go to a movie, 1529 01:21:37,980 --> 01:21:40,591 or sit at the front of the bus. 1530 01:21:40,678 --> 01:21:43,376 They are almost always rooted 1531 01:21:43,463 --> 01:21:45,683 in the protection of black womanhood. 1532 01:21:46,118 --> 01:21:48,120 [all singing] 1533 01:21:52,081 --> 01:21:56,041 If we trace the roots of all these campaigns, 1534 01:21:56,128 --> 01:21:59,871 what we see are black women fighting for the right 1535 01:21:59,958 --> 01:22:02,874 to move through the world unmolested. 1536 01:22:04,745 --> 01:22:06,922 ["This Bitter Earth" playing] 1537 01:22:14,407 --> 01:22:17,541 ♪ This bitter earth ♪ 1538 01:22:23,808 --> 01:22:28,726 ♪ Well, what a fruit it bears ♪ 1539 01:22:33,122 --> 01:22:35,689 ♪ Ooh... ♪ 1540 01:22:35,776 --> 01:22:38,257 It is this sort of rite of passage 1541 01:22:38,344 --> 01:22:40,259 where young southern white boys 1542 01:22:40,346 --> 01:22:42,914 hunted for a young black girl. 1543 01:22:44,785 --> 01:22:46,570 [Crystal Feimster] Their behavior 1544 01:22:46,657 --> 01:22:49,051 was that black women 1545 01:22:49,138 --> 01:22:52,576 would be happy to sleep with a white man. 1546 01:22:53,794 --> 01:22:55,709 Under slavery there was no way 1547 01:22:55,796 --> 01:22:59,148 that a black woman could not consent. 1548 01:22:59,235 --> 01:23:01,324 These young men believed 1549 01:23:01,411 --> 01:23:03,239 that Recy Taylor would be 1550 01:23:03,326 --> 01:23:05,067 a consenting partner 1551 01:23:05,154 --> 01:23:07,025 and if she wasn't 1552 01:23:07,112 --> 01:23:08,200 that they would force that consent 1553 01:23:08,287 --> 01:23:10,724 with a gun to her head. 1554 01:23:10,811 --> 01:23:13,771 I mean, I guess what I often think is 1555 01:23:14,598 --> 01:23:16,992 that they didn't see her. 1556 01:23:17,079 --> 01:23:19,298 In the sense that they really did not see her. 1557 01:23:19,385 --> 01:23:22,606 That she was an idea 1558 01:23:22,693 --> 01:23:24,608 of what black women are. 1559 01:23:24,695 --> 01:23:26,436 That they are all prostitutes. 1560 01:23:26,523 --> 01:23:28,090 And, uh, 1561 01:23:28,177 --> 01:23:30,875 and that they had a right to her body, right? 1562 01:23:30,962 --> 01:23:33,660 And, of course, I keep seeing this young 1563 01:23:33,747 --> 01:23:36,446 frightened woman who has a daughter and a mother 1564 01:23:36,533 --> 01:23:38,187 and a husband at home. 1565 01:23:38,839 --> 01:23:40,232 Um... 1566 01:23:40,319 --> 01:23:42,017 If they couldn't see her, 1567 01:23:43,105 --> 01:23:45,107 in the way that she needed to be seen, 1568 01:23:45,194 --> 01:23:48,066 because how could they have, 1569 01:23:48,153 --> 01:23:51,287 you know, how could they have brutalized her in this way? 1570 01:23:51,374 --> 01:23:53,115 It just doesn't... 1571 01:23:53,202 --> 01:23:55,117 I mean, so, as a scholar 1572 01:23:55,204 --> 01:23:57,032 I can see all the pieces, 1573 01:23:57,641 --> 01:23:59,034 how white supremacy works, 1574 01:23:59,121 --> 01:24:02,124 how sexism works and patriarchy, but, 1575 01:24:02,211 --> 01:24:04,387 at the end of the day you think, okay, 1576 01:24:04,474 --> 01:24:06,215 these are six boys 1577 01:24:06,302 --> 01:24:07,651 and a woman. 1578 01:24:07,738 --> 01:24:10,567 Like, where is the humanity? 1579 01:24:11,742 --> 01:24:14,049 ♪ Too soon you're old ♪ 1580 01:24:20,838 --> 01:24:23,623 ♪ But while a voice ♪ 1581 01:24:26,235 --> 01:24:29,064 ♪ Within me cries ♪ 1582 01:24:33,198 --> 01:24:38,203 ♪ I'm sure someone May answer my call ♪ 1583 01:24:43,730 --> 01:24:45,863 ♪ And this bitter earth ♪ 1584 01:24:45,950 --> 01:24:48,387 [Alma Daniels] All six of 'em, 1585 01:24:48,474 --> 01:24:50,346 what they did to her, 1586 01:24:50,433 --> 01:24:52,043 they didn't need to live. 1587 01:24:52,130 --> 01:24:55,090 And then what they, what happened to them 1588 01:24:55,438 --> 01:24:56,917 afterwards 1589 01:24:57,527 --> 01:24:59,442 was, 1590 01:24:59,529 --> 01:25:02,358 well, a good thing 'cause someone had tragical death. 1591 01:25:02,445 --> 01:25:05,361 They died tragical deaths. 1592 01:25:05,448 --> 01:25:09,800 And so, it's just good for them for what they did to her. 1593 01:25:11,106 --> 01:25:13,847 And just thank God she is still around. 1594 01:25:15,458 --> 01:25:17,808 She is still here. 1595 01:25:17,895 --> 01:25:21,028 ♪ This bitter earth ♪ 1596 01:25:31,430 --> 01:25:34,912 ♪ Oh, this bitter earth ♪ 1597 01:25:48,317 --> 01:25:51,320 ♪ What good is love ♪ 1598 01:25:55,498 --> 01:25:59,458 ♪ Mm-hmm, that no one shares? ♪ 1599 01:26:01,504 --> 01:26:02,983 ♪ And if my life ♪ 1600 01:26:03,070 --> 01:26:04,855 [Recy Taylor] Many ladies got raped. 1601 01:26:05,508 --> 01:26:07,249 ♪ Is like the dust ♪ 1602 01:26:09,816 --> 01:26:12,036 The people there didn't seem like them 1603 01:26:12,123 --> 01:26:14,821 weren't concerned about what happened to me 1604 01:26:14,908 --> 01:26:16,954 and then tried to do nothin' about it. 1605 01:26:18,521 --> 01:26:20,392 I can't help but tell the truth 1606 01:26:21,698 --> 01:26:23,178 of what they done to me. 1607 01:26:24,527 --> 01:26:26,790 ♪ What good am I? ♪ 1608 01:26:26,877 --> 01:26:29,836 [Recy Taylor] They could have killed me anyway. 1609 01:26:29,923 --> 01:26:32,709 There was time I knew they could have killed me with their gun. 1610 01:26:34,232 --> 01:26:36,365 The Lord was just with me that night. 1611 01:26:55,471 --> 01:26:57,473 ["Hush-A-Bye" playing] 1612 01:27:05,742 --> 01:27:10,834 ♪ Hush-a-bye ♪ 1613 01:27:10,921 --> 01:27:14,098 ♪ Don't you cry ♪ 1614 01:27:15,665 --> 01:27:21,366 ♪ Go to sleep my little baby ♪ 1615 01:27:24,587 --> 01:27:28,547 ♪ When you wake ♪ 1616 01:27:29,461 --> 01:27:33,117 ♪ You shall have ♪ 1617 01:27:34,161 --> 01:27:41,038 ♪ All the pretty Little horses ♪ 1618 01:27:43,562 --> 01:27:46,435 ♪ Black and bays ♪ 1619 01:27:48,175 --> 01:27:51,440 ♪ Dapples and grays ♪ 1620 01:27:52,963 --> 01:27:59,796 ♪ All the pretty Little horses ♪ 1621 01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:09,284 ♪ Way down yonder On the meadow ♪ 1622 01:28:11,895 --> 01:28:17,466 ♪ Lies a poor little lambie ♪ 1623 01:28:21,644 --> 01:28:25,822 ♪ Bees and butterflies ♪ 1624 01:28:26,518 --> 01:28:29,565 ♪ Picking out its eyes ♪ 1625 01:28:31,001 --> 01:28:37,312 ♪ Poor little thing's Crying mami ♪ 1626 01:28:40,576 --> 01:28:43,492 ♪ Blacks and bays ♪ 1627 01:28:45,232 --> 01:28:48,453 ♪ Dapples and grays ♪ 1628 01:28:49,889 --> 01:28:56,418 ♪ All the pretty Little horses ♪ 1629 01:28:56,505 --> 01:28:58,811 ♪ Sister of my tears ♪ 1630 01:28:58,898 --> 01:29:01,379 ♪ Sister of my cries ♪ 1631 01:29:01,466 --> 01:29:03,642 ♪ Hand in hand We stand as one ♪ 1632 01:29:03,729 --> 01:29:06,297 ♪ We push we reach we rise ♪ 1633 01:29:06,384 --> 01:29:07,472 ♪ We rise ♪ 1634 01:29:07,559 --> 01:29:08,691 ♪ We rise ♪ 1635 01:29:08,778 --> 01:29:11,302 ♪ We rise ♪ 1636 01:29:11,389 --> 01:29:13,609 ♪ Hand in hand We stand as one ♪ 1637 01:29:13,696 --> 01:29:16,481 ♪ We push we reach we rise ♪ 1638 01:29:16,568 --> 01:29:18,744 ♪ Sister of my tears ♪ 1639 01:29:18,831 --> 01:29:21,138 ♪ Sister of my cries ♪ 1640 01:29:21,225 --> 01:29:23,270 ♪ Hand in hand We stand as one ♪ 1641 01:29:23,358 --> 01:29:25,838 ♪ We push we reach we rise ♪ 1642 01:29:25,925 --> 01:29:27,057 ♪ We rise ♪ 1643 01:29:27,144 --> 01:29:28,450 ♪ We rise ♪ 1644 01:29:28,537 --> 01:29:31,061 ♪ We rise ♪ 1645 01:29:31,148 --> 01:29:33,237 ♪ Hand in hand We stand as one ♪ 1646 01:29:33,324 --> 01:29:35,805 ♪ We push we reach we rise ♪ 1647 01:29:35,892 --> 01:29:38,198 ♪ A mother's strength ♪ 1648 01:29:38,285 --> 01:29:41,071 ♪ A daughter's love ♪ 1649 01:29:41,158 --> 01:29:45,815 ♪ A sister's will That will be done ♪ 1650 01:29:45,902 --> 01:29:50,385 ♪ Our voices raised Together will ♪ 1651 01:29:50,472 --> 01:29:55,651 ♪ Do the work Of a million guns ♪ 1652 01:29:56,565 --> 01:29:58,871 ♪ Sister of my tears ♪ 1653 01:29:58,958 --> 01:30:01,047 ♪ Sister of my cries ♪ 1654 01:30:01,134 --> 01:30:03,267 ♪ Hand in hand We stand as one ♪ 1655 01:30:03,354 --> 01:30:05,487 ♪ We push we reach we rise ♪ 1656 01:30:05,574 --> 01:30:06,705 ♪ We rise ♪ 1657 01:30:06,792 --> 01:30:07,880 ♪ We rise ♪ 1658 01:30:07,967 --> 01:30:10,492 ♪ We rise ♪ 1659 01:30:10,579 --> 01:30:12,711 ♪ Hand in hand We stand as one ♪ 1660 01:30:12,798 --> 01:30:15,497 ♪ We push we reach we rise ♪ 1661 01:30:15,584 --> 01:30:17,673 ♪ Sister of my tears ♪ 1662 01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,197 ♪ Sister of my cries ♪ 1663 01:30:20,284 --> 01:30:22,373 ♪ Hand in hand We stand as one ♪ 1664 01:30:22,460 --> 01:30:24,767 ♪ We push we reach we rise ♪ 1665 01:30:24,854 --> 01:30:25,942 ♪ We rise ♪ 1666 01:30:26,029 --> 01:30:27,117 ♪ We rise ♪ 1667 01:30:27,204 --> 01:30:29,511 ♪ We rise ♪ 1668 01:30:29,598 --> 01:30:32,035 ♪ Hand in hand We stand as one ♪ 1669 01:30:32,122 --> 01:30:35,168 ♪ We push we reach we rise ♪ 121312

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