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[Amy] It's pulling off the covers.

Sometimes I'll wake up and he's right there.

I've woken up with bruises before.

- It was just standing right there. - What did you see?

A shadow.

I felt like it wants to take them.

They discover her naked and dead in the bathtub.

To me, it was almost like a medical examination that this thing was doing.

[Amy] I feel scared, I feel uncomfortable, really uncomfortable.

The dark is getting darker.

My name is Amy Allan. I see dead people.

There is a skinwalker here.

I speak to dead people... and they speak to me.

He wants to collect the women.

But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.

They are sucking the life out of these people.

- I rely on my partner. - I'm Steve DiSchiavi.

I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.

This is the kind of case that would have haunted me.

And I know every person, every house... has secrets.

- It's my job to reveal them. - But Steve and I never speak.

- We never communicate during an investigation. - Until the very end.

- Is that what I think it is? - Yes.

- When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... - I told you

it was trying to kill me.

Or time to get out.

You have a dead person inside you.

[Steve] So I'm out here in Coolidge, Arizona. It's about an hour south of Phoenix.

I got an emotional call from a woman named Sherri

who says her family is in big danger from all the paranormal activity.

Sherri says they're in a bind. Can't afford to leave, can't afford to stay.

It sounds like a horrible situation and they desperately need our help.

[Amy] Oh, wow. This place is bad. Lot of fear here.

I feel scared.

And then I heard "There is no hope."

[Steve] So, Sherri, I gotta tell you it's really peaceful out here.

But when we spoke on the phone it sounded like you were living in a hell hole.

Yes, my family feels like they're being tortured.

It's really scary, kind of tearing everybody apart, not knowing...

- what's gonna happen next. - Okay.

Now, this is a pretty decent sized house, who all lives in the house?

So it's... it's me, my husband,

my daughter Jaylynn, she's 17 and my daughter Emma, she's 15.

- Okay, so how long are you here? - We've been here a year.

- Were people here before? - No, this is a brand-new house.

Okay, did you guys ever have any experiences like this before you moved here?

Not this bad.

- So you've had experiences before? - Mm-hm.

So do you think you brought something here?

I think Emma brings things in.

- So you think she has abilities? - Yes.

- Okay. - Emma's had problems since she was little.

She's talked about stuff since she was young.

- And Emma's too scared to go into her room. - Really?

Yes.

She sleeps in our room.

- As a mom that's gotta be driving you insane. - Yes.

Very heartbreaking. They come first.

- I understand that. - They're the most important.

But I can't... I can't help them.

Alright, so, Sherri do me a favor and give me a list

of what's going on in the house.

There's mood changes, hearing voices, seeing shadow figures

and now it's getting physical.

- [Steve] So now, the mood changes, who does that affect? - Me and my daughter Emma.

If she's in her room, it causes her anger.

- She gets very angry. - Okay.

Um, mine...

can be out of the blue, I can be doing something and it's just this surge of...

- It's just rage. - Why don't you guys just find another place?

- In all honesty, I think it'll just go wherever we go. - So we gotta figure this out.

- Yeah. - Okay.

[Amy] I see this big guy, put him at 6' 1", probably 300 pounds.

But he's all in shadow.

He's following me in here.

He's energy is very dark, he definitely is influencing people.

- Their behaviors... - What does he want in doing this?

He likes to see the turmoil.

- He's bringing up this anger. - Would you say what he's doing is dangerous?

I think so, yeah, because like you get one person

who is a ticking time bomb.

And then he, you know, is not letting them sleep.

You know, freaking them out.

And if they're a ticking time bomb they could flip the [bleep] out, you know?

And like beat somebody to death or something crazy,

so, you know, I think it's dangerous. Like he's playing with fire.

Alright, so obviously this is the mattress you told me that Emma sleeps on.

[Sherri] Yes.

- This is not how people should be living, alright? - [Sherri] No,

- especially a kid. - So what's going on?

When I'm in the shower I'll hear heavy breathing on the other side of the curtain.

- Describe the breathing for me. - It's heavy.

I don't know, it's kind of gross sounding,

they're like a really heavy set person, really heavy breathing.

Does this happen when you're home alone?

- Oh, I won't take a shower if I'm home alone. I refuse. - Really?

Yes, I feel like there's always somebody waiting for me.

[Amy] So this big guy, he just says he likes to [bleep] with people in their heads in here.

I think he's talking about nightmares, manipulating dreams.

He's showing me he's actually going into dreams...

and like being in whatever world that person's created.

- Are they aware of him being there? - Sometimes they'll wake up

and he's right there.

So they're seeing then, I would think, a big figure sitting right up on them.

And they wake up and they're like what the [bleep] and then he's, you know,

out of there.

[Steve] You got a lot of things going on in this house, anything else?

I see shadow figures all over the house.

- Describe what they look like to you. - Tall,

- you can tell it's a person, you can see arms and legs. - Can you tell if it's a man

- or a woman? - I always just thought man, more masculine, more dominant.

- [whispers] Gosh, I'm sorry. - Why, what's the matter?

- I saw something in there flop, I'm sorry. - What'd you see?

A shadow.

- Just now? - Yeah, when I looked past you I could see it in there.

- You okay? - Yeah, I'm okay. I'm sorry.

- No, don't be sorry. - I didn't expect that to happen.

No, I'm just curious.

I don't see it.

- [Sherri clears throat] - Take some deep breaths, relax.

- Nothing's gonna happen to you while I'm here, so... - [Sherri laughs nervously]

- It was just standing right there. - And what happened?

- It was just... - So I turned to look

- and it was gone? - Yes.

It gives you that feeling of... "I know you're talking about me and here I still am."

- Trying to intimidate you. - Yeah, it did. It did.

Whatever it is it can go [bleep] itself because it's not gonna intimidate me.

- Right, right. - I know you live here, but...

- it's not gonna stop us from doing our job. - Oh yeah, no. I hope not.

[Amy] I see like a doorway open up here.

Like literally a doorway, and then something like...

you know, bending out and looking.

I don't know what the [bleep] it is.

It opens... this door opens and it's the night sky.

You know, that this thing is coming from.

When I first glimpsed it, it looked like if somebody put...

you know, a sheet on someone so it looks like a ghost.

But it was like a black sheet.

And it floats, I mean... I don't know, it's bizarre.

Cause like initially I'm like oh, some kind of like

you know, doorway to another like dimension but then they're showing the night sky.

Now I'm like, is it a [bleep] alien?

I feel scared, I feel uncomfortable, really uncomfortable.

[Steve] So, Matt, I'm glad you guys called us in.

Talking to your wife, she's pretty sure a paranormal here is attacking your family.

I mean, what's your thoughts on all that?

I've never personally had any experiences, the only thing that I have is what

all three of the girls have told me that's happened to them.

And it's hard for me to discount what they've said

because they all pretty much had the same story.

- It's gotta torture you as a father and a husband. - It breaks my heart.

So, Matt, I know you've had no experiences but is there anything that's happened

in the house that you've seen you can't explain?

The only thing that I can't explain is every once in a while

we have lights flicker for no apparent reason in the house.

It's a brand new house.

I've tried to check the electrical, there's nothing electrical going on.

The only other thing is possible, it could be paranormal.

Amy doesn't like to tell people you gotta leave your home,

but if she does suggest that, I mean, how would you take that information?

I'm gonna do whatever it takes to take care of my family.

Alright.

[Amy] This alien thing is really creepy. It's like floating around.

And then like it's touching,

I think that this thing has touched people here, physically.

Whoever was over here, being touched by it.

The sheet's cold and her being touched...

on... her side and her shoulder, she's on her side.

Her arm, pulling her arm back.

It's like almost like... kind of like an examination or something.

- Are they aware of this happening? - Yeah, when this thing's here

they can't do anything, this person is like frozen, like completely frozen.

They're completely [bleep] terrified, you know.

So, Emma, it's nice to meet you. Mom was talking about you and how she's worried.

- You're having a tough time here. - Yeah.

She also mentioned that she thinks you have abilities, do you think that's true?

- Yeah. - Okay.

- That your room? - Yeah.

- Okay, I understand you don't like sleeping in there. - No, I don't.

What's going on in there, honey?

- I get really bad mood changes. - What happens?

I'll come out of the room and I'll just be angry at everybody.

- Really? You seem so sweet though, so is that... - [laughs]

Is that you? Are you lashing out? Or something's making you change?

Yeah, I'm normally nice to everybody.

Alright, is that the main reason you don't like sleeping in there?

- I see things in there too sometimes. - Like what?

I've seen a shadow figure behind me while I was at my desk.

It was tall, it kind of looked like it would be a guy shadow.

- So, what other experiences have you had? - I had a scratch on my leg

that started bleeding and the scratch just appeared, I don't know where it came from.

This looks like a scratch that can happen almost anywhere, anytime.

Did you wake up like this?

- I was actually sitting on the couch downstairs. - Okay.

And my leg started to itch, and I didn't know why.

So I pulled my leggings up to scratch it and it was already bleeding.

- Nothing was around you, you didn't do anything? - Mm-mm.

- Were you out just prior to that, like in the yard? - Mm-mm. No.

So you think whatever's here is trying to get to you?

I do, yeah. I feel like that.

[Amy] I'm getting two living females

who've had really hardcore experiences with this thing.

Then I'm getting somebody else being touched by it. I just saw somebody, a female in bed,

it's dark and it's like pulling down or pulling off the covers.

But she can feel like something on her,

you know, like feeling it on her arm, her back, her side.

That gives them that sense of fear and panic immediately.

I would say that the living are feeling very scared when this is happening.

That's scary [bleep] weird, I gotta say it's creepy.

So, Jaylynn, I was talking to Mom and she's worried about you and your sister.

- Yeah. - She feels that whatever's here is targeting you guys.

Yeah, a lot.

- Yeah, so you agree with that? - Yes.

So as far as your experiences go, what's been going on with you?

- I have nightmares sometimes. - So what kind of nightmares are you having?

Family members die sometimes or bad things are happening in the family or the house.

- So, what else is going on? - I've woken up with bruises before.

- Okay, where? - On my face, like a line of them.

I actually have some pictures.

These are... odd-looking... bruises.

- Do you have any health issues? - No.

Is there anything that might've caused it, did you have anything...

a bracelet on or anything that had something on it?

No, I don't wear bracelets. Yeah, and the bed is not next to a wall or anything.

- Your sister gets scratches. - Mm-hm.

- You're getting bruises, I mean... - Mm-hm. Yeah.

- That's not a good thing. - No.

This alien, it seems to really be interested in this person.

I'm wondering if this person has felt like they've been lifted out of the bed

to some extent. I literally feel like they're waking up and falling back into the bed.

Honestly, I felt like it wants to take them.

- Just through this door or whatever? - Yeah.

I feel like it wants to take them.

[Steve] We've done a bunch of investigations in Arizona

so I reached out to some of my contacts here. One of them, a local historian,

says one of the original owners of Sherri and Matt's property was a huge success,

until scandal and illness took him down.

[Steve] Marshall, thanks for helping me out in this case.

Now, you mentioned on the phone that the original owner of my client's property was

pretty important around here, what do you mean by that?

- Yeah, so Michael Brixton Morrison grew up in Texas. - Okay.

- But he always had this dream of working in law enforcement. - Oh, okay.

So at the age of 21 he winds up getting a job at the Yuma Prison.

Which is round the border in Arizona. He is the one down here.

- Okay, the guy without the hat. - Yes.

- How did it go for him when he got there? - So he gets there

and it's completely in disarray.

I mean, there's not enough staff, it's mismanaged.

And so to rectify that, the state decides that, instead of the Yuma Prison,

they're going to build a brand-new prison in Florence.

- Okay, so this person was a mess basically. - Exactly.

And so he winds up with the opportunity to take the prisoners

and be in charge of them as they build the brand-new prison.

Alright, so his professional life seems to be going really well.

- What about his personal life? - So he meets the love of his life,

- Ruby Carpenter. - Okay.

They have four kids and then in 1915

he buys 160 acres and that includes your client's property.

Okay, so he meets the love of his life,

he was supervising these prisoners building their own prison,

when the prison's finished, though, what does he do?

So he actually gets a promotion,

and he becomes the assistant superintendent and his job

is to oversee, basically, the executions.

Alright, if you got a weak stomach it's not really a great job.

Yeah, and so by 1920 he actually was ready to move on

so he quit his job at the prison, they move to Phoenix,

he actually winds up becoming a policeman.

- Okay. - And he quickly works his way up the rank.

- And becomes a police chief. - Really?

Alright, so this guy, every job he takes seems to be rising star.

Until the mayor basically says he's charged with irregularities on the force.

So he's forced to resign.

- So what happened after that? - So pretty much his life was over.

- I mean two years later, in July of 1938... - Okay.

...he goes in the hospital for symptoms of appendicitis, they operate,

discover that his appendix has burst and infection is all throughout.

And so after 13 excruciating days of being in the hospital, he passes away.

- And here is his death certificate. - Okay, so this guy suffered.

- Yeah. - He was 51 years old.

I mean, this poor guy. It's a miserable way to go.

[Amy] This big guy who gives people nightmares is following me everywhere.

He was...

involved with cars and horses

and drugs and guns.

He was really bad and he didn't move on

because he didn't want to, so he just stays here and causes hell.

I see a bunch of guys dead and they have shovels in their hands.

And the weird thing was they were left to rot.

So the earth now is like just filled with like their decomposed bodies.

And there's like one trying to climb the fence but not doing a great job of it.

Like if somebody's grabbing him and pulling him back.

- Do they seem to have any kind of intent? - To me the feeling is like

getting away and trying to get over here.

Lot of fear here, like they're feeling... fear.

They are scared.

[Steve] So far I have a mother and her two daughters

being terrorized by the paranormal

on a property once owned by a man who oversaw executions at a nearby prison.

But I wanna see if there's anything else.

Searching through old records, I find a deadly house fire

just 4000 feet from Sherri and Matt's house.

I'm heading over to meet a local journalist who says this tragedy is heartbreaking,

and worst of all, it could have been avoided.

[Steve] So, Rofida, I appreciate you meeting with me.

It sounded like a real brutal case, I mean, what did you find out?

[Rofida] It is a very brutal story and it began on November 5th 1974.

When Woodman Moore and his wife Juanita

went out for the evening, leaving four children home alone.

- Were they all their kids? - No, so there was Gary who was ten,

Elizabeth who was seven, Brian who was six,

- and those were their three kids. - Okay.

And then they had a grandson by the name of John who was three.

Alright, so let me get this straight, they left a ten-year-old home

- in charge of these three other kids? - Mm-hm.

So these kids are home alone, what the hell happened?

So after the parents left the house at about 7:30pm the house goes up in flames.

Gary, who is the oldest, he manages to jump out of a window

and run to the neighbors to seek help.

- So, what happened? - So, firefighters arrived on scene,

but unfortunately the whole house was engulfed in flames.

Tragically the three other children died.

Okay, so something this tragic, they had to have an investigation,

- I assume, right? - Mm-hm. Yes. There was an investigation

and from it they determined that the fire started

when Elizabeth went into the living room to turn off a space heater.

And her sweater got caught in the space heater

and the lint from the sweater actually sparked the fire

and took the whole house with it. Here's an article on the fire.

- What a shame. I'm sure they did autopsies, right? - Mm-hm. They did.

The causes of death for all three were smoke inhalation.

Do we have any idea what happened with the parents after this happened?

Juanita and Woodman, they stayed in the area.

But unfortunately they were never the same after this incident.

- I couldn't imagine the guilt that these parents had. - Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[Amy] So I'm getting like a young male living

and this is like residual of him like freaking out.

And I'm seeing the alien thing near this kid who is yelling and screaming.

There's an electrical charge, there's like a charge to the air when this thing is around

and it is affecting like electricity.

I don't know if light bulbs are exploding but they're dying, batteries are draining

like so if there's a fire alarm it'll start, you know...

you know, they change batteries and it's making that noise.

I don't know what he's yelling about, I feel like he's scared.

You know I think it's dangerous, like he's playing with fire.

[sighs deeply]

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[Steve] I just got a call from a former US Marshall.

He says he found a pretty wild story about a guy who seemed to get away with murder

near my client's property, but in the end he payed the ultimate price.

Well, Mo, thanks for helping me out with this case.

So, on the phone you said it was a pretty bad homicide, kind of brutal.

- What do we know about the victim? - Petra Martinez was

- 14 or 15 when she married Alex Rivera. - Okay.

- They had four children, between the two of them. - Okay.

1961...

he dies, from perigastric issues.

- So basically stomach problems. - Yeah.

- How old was she when he died? - She was 20.

Alright, so this is already a sad story for this woman, what happens after this?

So in the next couple of years she starts a relationship

with a guy by the name of James McGuffey.

- Okay. - And the two of them have a child.

1966, James is ordered to pay $30 a month in child support,

it's about $240 in today's numbers.

- Apparently their relationship wasn't that great. - Apparently not.

Alright, so I know she winds up dead from a homicide, what happened?

- So on June 10th, 1966... - Okay.

...the two of them, James and Petra, are seen leaving a bar

about five o'clock in the afternoon.

Five hours later they discover her naked and dead in the bathtub.

You know how far she was found from the house I'm investigating?

This took place about a mile and a half from your client's property.

What about the autopsy, what did that show?

Official cause from the autopsy was she was strangled.

So I gotta think at this point they're gonna look at James for this homicide.

Nine days later, June 19th, they hook him up for the murder.

Okay, so did he confess? Did they have evidence, what's the story?

It was all circumstantial.

They didn't have enough on him to hold him, they kicked him loose.

More than likely this guy got away with murder. What happens with him after that?

Following year... James is serving a sentence for assault

on another woman, they found in a ditch.

November 1st, 1967, they found him in a jail cell, he hung himself.

Alright, so this guy was a real [bleep] and he did us a favor by killing himself

but now we got... six victims. We got Petra and the five kids.

- Yeah. - It's a shame.

[Amy] I got... a severe headache, it literally feels like somebody has their hand

on the back of my neck and they're just squeezing it really hard

and it feels like a male's hand. [clears throat]

I did get a deceased female.

I feel like someone possibly had head and neck trauma

from an attack.

The male who killed her carries her dead body around.

Any idea why he'd be carrying her around like this?

He just liked how she ended up, physically... after he murdered her.

And so it's kind of like a trophy that he carries with him.

Definitely killed others round here.

I saw a lot of disturbing things on my walk, but two have me very concerned.

First, the big guy. His face shape was kind of wider.

More squared.

Late 40s, early 50s and he was big, I mean pushing 300 pounds.

So the nose had like I think pock marks or something like that on it.

Next I described the alien that's hovering over a living person.

There was kind of this weird doorway and then this thing came

through it, it looked like somebody was wearing a black sheet.

In the bed, there's an older woman being repeatedly bothered.

Amy, is this what you saw?

Yes, that's what I saw.

[Steve] Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations

we're ready to reveal our findings to each other and our clients for the first time.

So, guys, I'd like you to meet Amy. She's gonna be doing the reveal from a separate room

so she can focus on your case and the dead without any distractions.

Amy, meet Sherri and her husband Matt.

Now, they live here with their two teenage daughters.

In the middle is Jaylynn, who is 17,

and on the left with the glasses is Emma, who's 15.

These guys moved here about a year ago

and this was supposed to be their dream house.

As you can imagine, things are really bad here

and Sherri doesn't think it's safe for anyone.

That's why they called us in.

So unless Amy's got some questions for you guys, she'll tell us about her walk.

I encountered a very large man who died some time ago.

He has been confined to the darkness or to the shadows he says.

He decided not to move on because he

would prefer to stay and basically just cause and create havoc.

One of the ways that he does this is by controlling people's dreams.

He's able to enter them and manipulate the dreams themselves.

Now, Amy said he likes to be in the shadows.

- Sherri and the girls have all seen shadows. - Dark, thick shadow.

You could see the head, the shoulder, see the arms go down, but he is tall.

So, Amy, something that never happens when I'm around happened.

When I was upstairs talking with Sherri in the master bedroom,

she saw a shadow figure behind me.

- My gosh, I'm sorry. - Why, what's the matter?

- I saw something in there flop. I'm sorry. - What'd you see?

- A shadow. - Just now?

Yeah, when I looked past you I could see it.

So I checked and I couldn't find anything causing a shadow

but I can tell you, I know people, I read them really well.

There's no way she was faking the reaction that she had when she saw this thing.

I felt like it was trying to intimidate me, like it...

- wasn't gonna leave, it was gonna stay around. - That makes sense.

The other thing was nightmares.

Jaylynn's dreaming about people getting murdered.

Emma was dreaming about people getting taken.

- Interesting. - Okay.

Another thing that he does is he likes to amplify

individual's emotions, specifically negative ones.

So hatred, anger, depression... things of that nature.

So, Sherri, do me a favor and tell Amy

how Emma, when she gets angry, is like a totally different person.

Oh yeah, if she's in her room for any length of time her whole mood changes.

She's very... She can be mean, she's angry, frustrated.

- Emma's not the only one that's got anger issues here. - No.

- Tell Amy about yourself. - There's days where...

it is really really bad and I don't have the tolerance for anything or anybody.

- Matt gets the brunt of it. - And you're pretty understanding about it

cause you feel it's the paranormal that's doing it.

Yeah, I do my best. I chalk it up to there's something else that's causing...

- Right. - ...the majority of these emotions.

Now could this guy be doing all this?

Yeah, it's all things that he is capable of.

Did you get anything on this guy when he was alive?

I did get that he was a big guy, approximately 6'1", 300 pounds.

He told me that when he was alive, he was not a good person.

He was mixed up with guns, drugs, horses in a bad way.

He may be affiliated with some other males I encountered.

These males had died here, they were all holding shovels.

And they were just left to rot. These men were very scared.

And they were trying to run away from something, they were trying to climb over the fence

but they couldn't quite make it over.

A lot of the stuff she's talking about

is making me think of one of the original owners of the property here.

His name was Michael Morrison. Around 1908 when Morrison was 21 years old,

he started working as a prison guard in Yuma, Arizona.

But conditions were bad there,

so the state decided to build a new prison nearby in Florence.

Morrison supervised the inmates who basically had to build their own prison.

Which involved a lot of digging with shovels and stuff.

He was eventually promoted to be assistant superintendent,

which is a big position for a prison, and he oversaw several executions

which at that time were all hangings.

1920, he left the prison and became a cop.

So by the mid thirties he rose to the top and was made police chief

but there was a huge scandal about him, corruption, doing whatever he was doing

and he was forced to resign. Now after this his life was pretty much over.

1938 he went to the hospital for appendicitis, when they did the operation it burst.

- Oh! - 13 days later he was dead. He was 51 years old.

Only thing I could find on this guy was this old picture of him.

He looks burly, I don't know about 300 but he's a stocky guy.

- Any chance Morrison could be this guy? - I did have a sketch done

of what I saw of this individual.

[Steve] Oh, yeah.

You guys, look at this.

- Wow! Yeah. - See the nose?

You can see the chin and all the way down even to the rolls in his neck

are very similar.

- Oh, me I've seen a thousand sketches. - Yeah.

And I can tell you, they're never really close.

But when you have a distinctive nose like that, and that chin...

So you're thinking it could be Morrison?

I mean it seems... pretty likely.

- [Steve] How did the rest of the walk go? - [Amy] So now we're gonna talk

about something that I was not prepared for

and I feel that it's dangerous.

I encountered it in the room, if you go upstairs and turn left.

So that's Emma's room.

It was right by the closet in that room

and what I saw was like... bear with me,

the wall just kind of went away

and then I just saw this guy, like darkness, stars, all of this

and I felt like it was kind of a doorway to an alternate dimension.

And what was coming through it

was this very dark shape, kind of floating.

My feeling was, honestly,

and I can't explain why, is that it was some type of alien.

- And it was terrifying. - [Sherri] Huh!

We're talking about frickin' aliens now, right?

- Now, Sherri, Emma told me she's terrified of her room. - Mm-hm.

She actually sleeps in the master bedroom with them,

there's a mattress they lay down for her.

She's just scared, she hates her closet, her closet light always comes on.

And when I interviewed her she told me that she felt

- as if something was watching her from the closet. - Right, right.

- Now, you guys think Emma has abilities. - I do, yes.

- So why do you feel like she has abilities? - She was at such a young age

when she started talking about it, that we figured, okay, it's an imaginary friend.

- Now she's 15 years old, it should be gone by now. - And still going.

- I actually didn't get abilities off her. - Okay.

That's very interesting.

So how does this thing affect the living here?

When it enters a room it does carry some kind of weird electrical charge.

- It affects lights, batteries, fire alarms. - So...

This house is just over a year old and for no apparent reason at all

all the lights in the upstairs can flicker.

This thing has in fact made physical contact

with individuals in the home.

What I saw happening was this thing coming up and touching the arm,

the shoulder, going down the spine, and it really, to me,

it was almost like a medical examination that this thing was doing.

[Steve] Tell Amy what happened with Emma.

Both of us just kicking back on the couch

and she said that her leg kind of started itching

- Mm-hm. - And couldn't figure out why

so she lifts up her pant legs and there's this scratch there

- and it's already bleeding. - Actually, we got a photo of it here, Amy.

Do me a favor and talk to Amy about Jaylynn's bruises.

She had bruises all down her face.

- Her face? - Her face. They started at the top

where her forehead is, and literally came... it was like dots, they just came around

- all the way around to her chin. It was very strange. - Here's the photos, here.

- And she woke up with these? - Yeah, I was like, "Where'd those come from?"

She's like, "I don't know."

Now, you said this thing's from another dimension.

- I mean, what the hell would it look like? - I actually had a sketch done

of what I perceived.

This looks like Emma's room.

This might upset you.

Wow!

This is what's watching her?

I really don't even know what to say about that, that's heartbreaking.

- And as a father, it's enough to piss you off. - I'm just shocked.

I'm concerned. And the thing I was extremely concerned about

was that this alien was very much

discussing its want to take... to take...

this female or now females... with it.

It's possible you guys have been abducted together.

- What the hell am I gonna do? - I knew there was something here and I knew there was

something wrong with Emma's room,

like I know there's something wrong with that room.

But I didn't... I didn't expect that.

So you guys called us in because you thought

something was threatening your family, especially Emma.

I bet in a million years you never thought it was some entity from another dimension.

Now we have to answer the big question, is there any way you can stay here and fight

what you have in the house? Or is it time to get the hell outta here?

For that answer I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.

What I would like for you to do

is to find a very masculine

male medium. He will be able to get

this guy out of your house.

Which is gonna stop them from having these bad dreams, the anxiety, the anger

- and all that crap? - Yes.

- So that's one less thing... - Right, right.

- ...they gotta worry about. - That's good.

But we still have to deal with the biggest issue:

The alien. My suggestion is to stay here.

Because you can't escape from the alien.

I believe that this has been with you for quite some time

and it will go with you wherever you go.

- So, they're just gonna keep getting abducted? - Yes.

[Amy] So that's why I suggest educating yourselves about this type of phenomena.

Finding a local group of experiencers.

UFO groups, things of that nature.

So that you can get some guidance there and some help there

in dealing with this phenomenon.

How you feel about everything you heard tonight,

I mean what's going through your mind?

Yeah, we're definitely gonna do whatever it takes to do

- at least as much as we can. - I'm gonna start doing research, yeah. Definitely.

So as far as the paranormal side of things, are you gonna take Amy's advice to do that?

- Get this male medium? - Oh, yeah.

- Absolutely. That'll make things a lot better. - Oh, yeah.

Appreciate what you've done. I can't thank you enough.

[Amy] I wish I had better news for Matt and Sherri,

but unfortunately they won't be able to get rid of the aliens.

They will just have to learn how to adapt and live with them.

But if they bring in a medium to get rid of the big guy,

the activity in the house will go down considerably.

And they should be able to face these challenges

in a much more peaceful and calm environment.

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