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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,079 --> 00:00:12,446 - [Crowd] Four more years! 2 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,282 Four more years! 3 00:00:14,315 --> 00:00:15,649 Four more years! 4 00:00:16,517 --> 00:00:18,452 Four more years! 5 00:00:18,486 --> 00:00:20,388 Four more years! 6 00:00:20,421 --> 00:00:22,390 Four more years! 7 00:00:22,423 --> 00:00:24,558 Four more years! 8 00:00:24,592 --> 00:00:27,428 - Going into the election in '02 9 00:00:27,461 --> 00:00:29,463 we knew it was going to be a close race. 10 00:00:29,497 --> 00:00:32,433 On election night, we were in the war room of sorts 11 00:00:32,466 --> 00:00:36,570 that we had set up to track results as they came in 12 00:00:36,604 --> 00:00:39,473 from a network of people we had throughout the state. 13 00:00:39,507 --> 00:00:41,742 We were taking in the numbers all night long. 14 00:00:41,775 --> 00:00:43,444 - On that election night I was assigned 15 00:00:43,477 --> 00:00:45,346 to the Riley campaign in Talladega. 16 00:00:45,379 --> 00:00:46,714 That's where we were covering it. 17 00:00:46,747 --> 00:00:48,849 The Riley campaign and all of their supporters 18 00:00:48,882 --> 00:00:52,153 were gathered in this room, in this arena, 19 00:00:52,186 --> 00:00:54,555 watching those numbers, cheering sometimes, 20 00:00:54,588 --> 00:00:56,424 going quiet sometimes. 21 00:00:56,457 --> 00:00:58,626 - When we had the complete state in, 22 00:00:58,659 --> 00:01:00,661 we realized we'd pulled it off. 23 00:01:00,694 --> 00:01:02,096 We'd won. 24 00:01:02,130 --> 00:01:04,132 Shortly thereafter, Associated Press, AP, 25 00:01:04,165 --> 00:01:06,767 called the race and CNN called the race. 26 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:07,601 It was over. 27 00:01:07,635 --> 00:01:08,769 It was done. 28 00:01:08,802 --> 00:01:10,538 - And then Don Siegelman comes out 29 00:01:10,571 --> 00:01:14,375 and essentially claims victory in this race. 30 00:01:14,408 --> 00:01:15,809 - The voters have spoken. 31 00:01:15,843 --> 00:01:17,511 We're gonna move this state forward 32 00:01:17,545 --> 00:01:21,849 by investing in education and giving every child, 33 00:01:21,882 --> 00:01:24,485 every single child in this state 34 00:01:24,518 --> 00:01:26,754 a chance to reach their God-given potential. 35 00:01:26,787 --> 00:01:29,557 - Dad gets elected governor again 36 00:01:31,259 --> 00:01:35,129 and we went back down there and Dad's so happy. 37 00:01:35,163 --> 00:01:36,597 Oh my gosh, my children are back. 38 00:01:36,630 --> 00:01:38,466 They like got out of bed for this 39 00:01:38,499 --> 00:01:42,636 and so we all got to go onstage and celebrate. 40 00:01:42,670 --> 00:01:44,872 - How sweet it is! 41 00:01:44,905 --> 00:01:47,308 - Everybody went quiet for awhile 42 00:01:47,341 --> 00:01:49,610 and then the Riley campaign came out and spoke 43 00:01:49,643 --> 00:01:51,579 briefly and said we're still watching, 44 00:01:51,612 --> 00:01:54,282 we're still monitoring, but it's too soon to tell. 45 00:01:54,315 --> 00:01:57,318 We'll see ya tomorrow and we're gonna call it a night here. 46 00:01:57,351 --> 00:01:58,752 - Siegelman had won the re-election 47 00:01:58,786 --> 00:02:02,756 and then we started getting word about something 48 00:02:02,790 --> 00:02:06,160 that's taking place in Baldwin County. 49 00:02:07,595 --> 00:02:10,831 (dramatic music) 50 00:02:10,864 --> 00:02:13,867 - Our criminal justice system, when it goes wrong, 51 00:02:13,901 --> 00:02:16,437 can go wrong horrendously. 52 00:02:16,470 --> 00:02:18,639 - Should the prosecutors be in jail? 53 00:02:18,672 --> 00:02:20,208 Yes, they should be in jail. 54 00:02:20,241 --> 00:02:21,175 - That's mind boggling. 55 00:02:21,209 --> 00:02:22,410 Well we know she's lying. 56 00:02:22,443 --> 00:02:25,479 - The government spared no resource. 57 00:02:25,513 --> 00:02:27,681 We had to do what we could to make sure 58 00:02:27,715 --> 00:02:29,517 he wasn't re-elected because he was 59 00:02:29,550 --> 00:02:31,419 an ongoing threat to our client. 60 00:02:31,452 --> 00:02:33,687 - Lo and behold, they started to manipulate 61 00:02:33,721 --> 00:02:36,390 the criminal justice system. 62 00:02:36,424 --> 00:02:38,826 - One purpose here and that was to keep that man 63 00:02:38,859 --> 00:02:42,296 from being the governor of the state of Alabama. 64 00:02:42,330 --> 00:02:44,865 - Here is what we call a fraud on the courts. 65 00:02:44,898 --> 00:02:47,768 - No doubt in my mind that Don Siegelman was roved. 66 00:02:47,801 --> 00:02:49,470 - They had to get rid of him 67 00:02:49,503 --> 00:02:51,405 because they couldn't beat him fair and square. 68 00:02:51,439 --> 00:02:53,907 - They can't get to the jury, but they did. 69 00:02:53,941 --> 00:02:55,343 - I am mad. 70 00:02:55,376 --> 00:02:57,945 I wanna get somebody's neck in my hands. 71 00:02:57,978 --> 00:03:01,249 - It's one of the great injustices of our time. 72 00:03:01,282 --> 00:03:03,551 - God bless the great state of Alabama. 73 00:03:03,584 --> 00:03:05,919 - This is one of the most egregious 74 00:03:05,953 --> 00:03:09,790 miscarriages of justice that I've encountered. 75 00:03:10,958 --> 00:03:13,461 - There's something wrong in Alabama. 76 00:03:13,494 --> 00:03:17,231 - This situation cries out for the correction 77 00:03:17,265 --> 00:03:18,599 of an injustice. 78 00:03:24,538 --> 00:03:27,675 (gentle music) 79 00:03:27,708 --> 00:03:30,544 - Key in that whole play is the vote 80 00:03:30,578 --> 00:03:32,480 in one of the most Republican counties 81 00:03:32,513 --> 00:03:35,816 in the state of Alabama, Baldwin County. 82 00:03:35,849 --> 00:03:37,751 Something very strange occurred 83 00:03:37,785 --> 00:03:40,388 in the course of the election night there, 84 00:03:40,421 --> 00:03:43,957 resulting in a fairly dramatic shift in the vote. 85 00:03:43,991 --> 00:03:47,728 - I was the Chairman of the Baldwin County Democratic Party 86 00:03:47,761 --> 00:03:51,599 and one of the duties at that time that I was in office 87 00:03:51,632 --> 00:03:53,601 was to go to, on election night, 88 00:03:53,634 --> 00:03:56,637 go to Bay Minnette for election returns. 89 00:03:56,670 --> 00:03:59,773 Around 10:45, we got the first printout 90 00:03:59,807 --> 00:04:02,910 that showed John Sophocleus had received 91 00:04:02,943 --> 00:04:04,945 more votes than Don Siegelman. 92 00:04:04,978 --> 00:04:06,647 There's this huge red flag goes up 93 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,016 that this number couldn't possibly be right. 94 00:04:09,049 --> 00:04:11,452 - [Narrator] As a Democrat, Siegelman was not expected 95 00:04:11,485 --> 00:04:13,487 to win this heavily Republican county. 96 00:04:13,521 --> 00:04:15,623 In past elections, Democrats usually got 97 00:04:15,656 --> 00:04:18,326 about 40% of the vote and third-party candidates 98 00:04:18,359 --> 00:04:20,561 received only a few hundred votes for governor. 99 00:04:20,594 --> 00:04:23,464 However, these results showed that Libertarian candidate 100 00:04:23,497 --> 00:04:26,800 John Sophocleus received over 13,000 votes, 101 00:04:26,834 --> 00:04:29,337 signaling an obvious mistake. 102 00:04:29,370 --> 00:04:30,538 - We brought that to the attention 103 00:04:30,571 --> 00:04:33,541 of the Sheriff's Department and they immediately agreed 104 00:04:33,574 --> 00:04:34,775 that something must be wrong. 105 00:04:34,808 --> 00:04:37,411 So about 11:00, one of the deputies 106 00:04:37,445 --> 00:04:40,080 brought us a new printout that was supposed 107 00:04:40,113 --> 00:04:42,082 to be the corrected results. 108 00:04:42,115 --> 00:04:45,018 Under those totals that we were told were correct, 109 00:04:45,052 --> 00:04:47,655 Don Siegelman would have won the election. 110 00:04:47,688 --> 00:04:49,657 - [Narrator] This seemingly correct result 111 00:04:49,690 --> 00:04:53,427 adjusted the Libertarian candidates total to 937, 112 00:04:53,461 --> 00:04:55,062 increased Governor Siegelman's vote count 113 00:04:55,095 --> 00:04:59,099 to just over 19,000 and marginally increased Riley's votes. 114 00:04:59,132 --> 00:05:01,335 These corrected totals were then consistent 115 00:05:01,369 --> 00:05:03,537 with results from previous years. 116 00:05:03,571 --> 00:05:06,006 Although Siegelman wasn't expected to win the county, 117 00:05:06,039 --> 00:05:09,577 it was enough votes statewide to win the election. 118 00:05:09,610 --> 00:05:12,646 - That set of numbers is the one that it was given to me. 119 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,748 It was given to the Republican party chairman. 120 00:05:14,782 --> 00:05:18,486 It was given to the representative from the AP 121 00:05:18,519 --> 00:05:20,854 and those were the numbers that we left with. 122 00:05:20,888 --> 00:05:22,823 This is supposed to be the correct total. 123 00:05:22,856 --> 00:05:24,725 This is what's going to be certified later, 124 00:05:24,758 --> 00:05:27,495 so we got our printouts and we all left 125 00:05:27,528 --> 00:05:30,498 shortly after 11:00, including it appeared that 126 00:05:30,531 --> 00:05:33,000 most of the Sheriff Department staff was leaving as well. 127 00:05:33,033 --> 00:05:34,802 They were locking up the building for the night 128 00:05:34,835 --> 00:05:37,638 and we thought that the election, 129 00:05:37,671 --> 00:05:39,973 at least for Baldwin County, was over. 130 00:05:40,007 --> 00:05:42,676 By the time I got home, it was close to midnight. 131 00:05:42,710 --> 00:05:45,979 As I'm watching the TV, the AP wire is calling 132 00:05:46,013 --> 00:05:47,681 the election for Siegelman. 133 00:05:47,715 --> 00:05:51,685 - I would guess around 11 or so, just from my memory, 134 00:05:52,853 --> 00:05:55,523 Rob Riley came out and I was live. 135 00:05:55,556 --> 00:05:58,459 I had a wireless microphone and I was just 136 00:05:58,492 --> 00:06:00,694 roaming around and a photographer from a distance 137 00:06:00,728 --> 00:06:03,531 and Rob Riley came out and looked at me and said 138 00:06:03,564 --> 00:06:04,998 "Rick, you want a story?" 139 00:06:05,032 --> 00:06:07,401 - [Man] Due to the fact that the media has been reporting 140 00:06:07,435 --> 00:06:11,705 what we can now confirm as a 6,000 vote discrepancy, 141 00:06:11,739 --> 00:06:13,907 the numbers simply don't add up. 142 00:06:13,941 --> 00:06:16,577 - We win this race and at this point, 143 00:06:16,610 --> 00:06:17,778 it was off to the races. 144 00:06:17,811 --> 00:06:21,181 - We're going to fight until we know what every vote is. 145 00:06:21,214 --> 00:06:22,382 (cheering) 146 00:06:22,416 --> 00:06:25,553 - I get on my computer and went to the probate court website 147 00:06:25,586 --> 00:06:28,589 to see what results had been posted there. 148 00:06:28,622 --> 00:06:30,691 The dispute is over a third set of results 149 00:06:30,724 --> 00:06:33,527 that's been posted to the probate court website 150 00:06:33,561 --> 00:06:34,728 that I've never seen before. 151 00:06:34,762 --> 00:06:36,997 There's time stamped just a few minutes after 152 00:06:37,030 --> 00:06:38,666 the latest copy that we had gotten 153 00:06:38,699 --> 00:06:40,768 that was supposed to be accurate. 154 00:06:40,801 --> 00:06:42,770 - [Narrator] These mysterious new third set of totals 155 00:06:42,803 --> 00:06:44,705 were never seen by party officials 156 00:06:44,738 --> 00:06:46,607 to validate their authenticity. 157 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,811 They just simply appeared on the probate court's website. 158 00:06:50,844 --> 00:06:53,447 - I remember having almost like a sick feeling 159 00:06:53,481 --> 00:06:56,684 in my stomach, like something serious is going on here. 160 00:06:56,717 --> 00:06:58,886 This isn't just a minor glitch. 161 00:06:58,919 --> 00:07:00,854 This is serious. 162 00:07:00,888 --> 00:07:03,223 This is going to change the result of the election. 163 00:07:03,256 --> 00:07:04,725 - [Narrator] In fact, these new results 164 00:07:04,758 --> 00:07:06,760 didn't change the totals of either Riley 165 00:07:06,794 --> 00:07:08,195 or the third-party candidate 166 00:07:08,228 --> 00:07:10,531 and no other race on the ballot was affected. 167 00:07:10,564 --> 00:07:13,867 The only change was that just over 6,300 votes 168 00:07:13,901 --> 00:07:16,704 from Governor Siegelman's column simply disappeared. 169 00:07:16,737 --> 00:07:19,540 These new, unverified set of results 170 00:07:19,573 --> 00:07:21,809 switched the winner over from Governor Siegelman 171 00:07:21,842 --> 00:07:24,177 to Republican Bob Riley. 172 00:07:24,211 --> 00:07:26,747 - Complete bullshit is what anybody else would say, 173 00:07:26,780 --> 00:07:29,883 but it just that doesn't happen. 174 00:07:29,917 --> 00:07:33,954 This was an issue over we say the vote changed 175 00:07:33,987 --> 00:07:35,956 and we've locked everything up 176 00:07:35,989 --> 00:07:37,891 and nobody can look at it. 177 00:07:37,925 --> 00:07:41,695 - That third set of numbers, according to the time stamp, 178 00:07:41,729 --> 00:07:43,997 those numbers were generated right after 179 00:07:44,031 --> 00:07:45,499 the numbers that we were given. 180 00:07:45,533 --> 00:07:47,901 I don't know how in two minutes' time 181 00:07:47,935 --> 00:07:49,770 a new set of numbers was produced. 182 00:07:49,803 --> 00:07:51,605 - And sometime during the dark of night, 183 00:07:51,639 --> 00:07:53,974 two individuals went into the courthouse 184 00:07:54,007 --> 00:07:56,844 and came back out and announced the vote had changed 185 00:07:56,877 --> 00:08:00,548 and it had changed just enough to change the outcome 186 00:08:00,581 --> 00:08:01,849 of the governor's race. 187 00:08:01,882 --> 00:08:03,617 - [Narrator] According to numerous reports, 188 00:08:03,651 --> 00:08:06,053 Bob Riley's Chief of Staff Dan Gans 189 00:08:06,086 --> 00:08:09,523 had been seen at the same voting precinct with a laptop 190 00:08:09,557 --> 00:08:12,092 along with Riley political consultant George Burger. 191 00:08:12,125 --> 00:08:14,728 Both men had been trained by the voting software 192 00:08:14,762 --> 00:08:16,797 manufacturer and professional claimed 193 00:08:16,830 --> 00:08:19,199 to be voting technology experts. 194 00:08:19,232 --> 00:08:20,834 - That morning, I'm heading up to Bay Minette 195 00:08:20,868 --> 00:08:23,270 and when we got there, the canvasing board, 196 00:08:23,303 --> 00:08:25,839 they were all locked in Adrian Johns' office. 197 00:08:25,873 --> 00:08:27,274 They went in there. 198 00:08:27,307 --> 00:08:29,877 They weren't letting anyone in to talk to them 199 00:08:29,910 --> 00:08:31,211 and they were apparently deciding 200 00:08:31,244 --> 00:08:34,748 what they were going to do about the situation. 201 00:08:34,782 --> 00:08:38,285 The canvassing board was made up of three local officials. 202 00:08:38,318 --> 00:08:40,721 It was Jackie Calhoun, who was the circuit clerk, 203 00:08:40,754 --> 00:08:43,757 Marvin Ussery who was with the Sheriff's Department 204 00:08:43,791 --> 00:08:46,159 and then you had Adrian Johns, the probate judge. 205 00:08:46,193 --> 00:08:49,797 Those were the three people in Adrian's office. 206 00:08:49,830 --> 00:08:52,700 I can tell you that they had locked the doors 207 00:08:52,733 --> 00:08:54,334 and nobody could go in. 208 00:08:54,367 --> 00:08:55,603 They were locked in there from the time 209 00:08:55,636 --> 00:08:58,271 that I got to the courthouse, which was early that morning, 210 00:08:58,305 --> 00:08:59,907 until minutes before they went out 211 00:08:59,940 --> 00:09:01,975 and announced the certification 212 00:09:02,009 --> 00:09:05,813 and so I handed them a copy of the statute that said 213 00:09:05,846 --> 00:09:08,782 certification is supposed to be on Friday at noon. 214 00:09:08,816 --> 00:09:10,784 They'd have no part of it and they were locked in 215 00:09:10,818 --> 00:09:11,919 and this is what we're gonna do 216 00:09:11,952 --> 00:09:13,120 and we're not gonna discuss it. 217 00:09:13,153 --> 00:09:15,255 We're gonna certify these results right now 218 00:09:15,288 --> 00:09:17,725 and they turned and just walked out of the room. 219 00:09:17,758 --> 00:09:20,928 - Siegelman had received 12,736 votes. 220 00:09:24,364 --> 00:09:27,668 Bob Riley received 31,052 votes. 221 00:09:27,701 --> 00:09:30,337 - These numbers were certified after no one was there 222 00:09:30,370 --> 00:09:32,372 from any political party. 223 00:09:32,405 --> 00:09:36,276 The statute says you certify at noon on Friday, 224 00:09:36,309 --> 00:09:39,880 but suddenly on this one race, this one election, 225 00:09:39,913 --> 00:09:41,849 they've decided that they're going to certify 226 00:09:41,882 --> 00:09:43,316 on Wednesday morning instead. 227 00:09:43,350 --> 00:09:45,152 - I'm not convinced that there is a problem 228 00:09:45,185 --> 00:09:46,386 with the software. 229 00:09:46,419 --> 00:09:47,788 It's something that we need to look at 230 00:09:47,821 --> 00:09:51,024 and talk with Mr. Kelley about from our 231 00:09:51,058 --> 00:09:52,893 election vendor company. 232 00:09:52,926 --> 00:09:54,662 - [Narrator] Despite acknowledging potential software 233 00:09:54,695 --> 00:09:56,964 problems and the fact that three different results 234 00:09:56,997 --> 00:09:58,966 all came from only one data set, 235 00:09:58,999 --> 00:10:01,001 Judge Johns and the other election officials 236 00:10:01,034 --> 00:10:02,736 all Republican Riley supporters, 237 00:10:02,770 --> 00:10:05,873 defied state law and certified the results two days early 238 00:10:05,906 --> 00:10:07,140 to make them official. 239 00:10:07,174 --> 00:10:09,877 Moments later, the Republican Attorney General, Bill Pryor, 240 00:10:09,910 --> 00:10:13,080 issued a warning to anyone trying to initiate a recount. 241 00:10:13,113 --> 00:10:15,916 - Before the doors opened the next morning, 242 00:10:15,949 --> 00:10:18,786 the Republican Attorney General has issued 243 00:10:18,819 --> 00:10:21,054 an AG's opinion basically saying he'd lock 244 00:10:21,088 --> 00:10:23,156 anybody up that tried to count the votes. 245 00:10:23,190 --> 00:10:25,726 - A recount count of sealed material 246 00:10:25,759 --> 00:10:27,928 cannot occur without a court order 247 00:10:27,961 --> 00:10:31,799 and a finding that a voting machine or precinct 248 00:10:31,832 --> 00:10:33,767 failed to make a return. 249 00:10:33,801 --> 00:10:35,669 - [Narrator] Attorney General Pryor quickly obtained 250 00:10:35,703 --> 00:10:38,972 those ballots and results to be kept in his possession. 251 00:10:39,006 --> 00:10:41,241 - You would expect someone to at least 252 00:10:41,274 --> 00:10:44,211 look at the votes publicly and show 253 00:10:45,445 --> 00:10:48,015 what the tally was, what happened. 254 00:10:48,048 --> 00:10:49,249 That's never occurred. 255 00:10:49,282 --> 00:10:52,953 Those ballots were locked up, put under seal 256 00:10:52,986 --> 00:10:57,457 and to this day no one has ever seen those ballots 257 00:10:57,490 --> 00:11:01,028 and no one has ever questioned the individuals 258 00:11:01,061 --> 00:11:03,931 who went in and said the vote changed. 259 00:11:03,964 --> 00:11:07,735 I've never seen anyone so adamantly opposed 260 00:11:08,435 --> 00:11:10,003 to counting votes. 261 00:11:10,037 --> 00:11:11,471 But that's what took place. 262 00:11:11,504 --> 00:11:14,074 - It's not only has he said the people's ballot 263 00:11:14,107 --> 00:11:15,375 will not be counted, 264 00:11:15,408 --> 00:11:17,845 the only evidence of the people's choice, 265 00:11:17,878 --> 00:11:20,848 he has now said to the public officials of this state, 266 00:11:20,881 --> 00:11:23,016 if you do it, if you do it, 267 00:11:23,050 --> 00:11:25,886 you're gonna be put in jail. 268 00:11:25,919 --> 00:11:28,722 Our public officials want to do what's right. 269 00:11:28,756 --> 00:11:30,457 - [Narrator] A recount would seen obvious, 270 00:11:30,490 --> 00:11:33,060 however, the early certification eliminated 271 00:11:33,093 --> 00:11:35,763 the possibility for that to happen. 272 00:11:35,796 --> 00:11:37,998 - In case you have not heard, 273 00:11:39,166 --> 00:11:42,169 Baldwin County just came out and certified 274 00:11:42,202 --> 00:11:45,205 the election results and they are... 275 00:11:48,375 --> 00:11:50,210 Don Sielgelman 12,736. 276 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,181 Riley 31,050. 277 00:11:55,849 --> 00:11:58,151 (cheering) 278 00:11:58,185 --> 00:12:01,188 - The two sets of returns from 279 00:12:01,221 --> 00:12:05,258 this gubernatorial election between Sielgelman and Riley, 280 00:12:05,292 --> 00:12:08,461 I dove into those anomalies to see 281 00:12:08,495 --> 00:12:10,831 if I could figure out what was going on. 282 00:12:10,864 --> 00:12:13,433 When certain patterns show up, 283 00:12:13,466 --> 00:12:17,070 it begins to show probably source 284 00:12:17,104 --> 00:12:19,172 of the anomaly in the data. 285 00:12:20,841 --> 00:12:22,009 - [Narrator] James Gundlach, 286 00:12:22,042 --> 00:12:23,844 a former professor at Auburn University, 287 00:12:23,877 --> 00:12:26,479 performed a statistical analysis of the vote totals. 288 00:12:26,513 --> 00:12:28,816 The resulting paper, which had been peer reviewed 289 00:12:28,849 --> 00:12:30,083 by professors at MIT, 290 00:12:30,117 --> 00:12:33,053 clearly show that a fraud had taken place. 291 00:12:33,086 --> 00:12:37,257 - The first set of results, statistically, are normal. 292 00:12:37,290 --> 00:12:41,194 You look at the second sets and you see how 293 00:12:41,228 --> 00:12:45,799 the blue dot for Baldwin County is way off the line. 294 00:12:45,833 --> 00:12:48,268 That's saying Baldwin County results 295 00:12:48,301 --> 00:12:51,138 are statistically abnormal. 296 00:12:51,171 --> 00:12:52,339 - When you went from the first set of numbers 297 00:12:52,372 --> 00:12:55,042 to the second set of numbers there were several changes, 298 00:12:55,075 --> 00:12:57,310 although the biggest changes were in the governor's race. 299 00:12:57,344 --> 00:12:59,813 When you go from the second set to the third set, 300 00:12:59,847 --> 00:13:02,115 you would assume that there would be changes 301 00:13:02,149 --> 00:13:05,118 in several races again, but there weren't. 302 00:13:05,152 --> 00:13:06,586 The only place you saw any difference 303 00:13:06,619 --> 00:13:08,889 from the second set to the third set 304 00:13:08,922 --> 00:13:10,323 was in the governor's race. 305 00:13:10,357 --> 00:13:13,293 In this case, you had the shift of just enough votes 306 00:13:13,326 --> 00:13:16,529 to change the outcome of the election statewide. 307 00:13:16,563 --> 00:13:19,399 - My lawyers tell me that we've got 308 00:13:19,432 --> 00:13:21,234 an excellent chance to win because the law 309 00:13:21,268 --> 00:13:22,970 is on our side. 310 00:13:23,003 --> 00:13:24,304 - If it went to the Alabama Supreme Court, 311 00:13:24,337 --> 00:13:28,041 then it's going to be heard by Republican judges. 312 00:13:28,075 --> 00:13:30,543 If it gets all the way to the United States Supreme Court, 313 00:13:30,577 --> 00:13:33,981 it's gonna be heard by the same justices 314 00:13:34,014 --> 00:13:38,085 that had just ruled against Al Gore two years earlier. 315 00:13:38,118 --> 00:13:41,154 So the odds of success through all of that 316 00:13:41,188 --> 00:13:43,290 were probably pretty low. 317 00:13:44,191 --> 00:13:47,127 - And every step would mean a lawsuit. 318 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:51,564 Every question would mean a new court battle. 319 00:13:51,598 --> 00:13:53,967 A look at the voter's list? 320 00:13:54,001 --> 00:13:55,435 Back in court. 321 00:13:55,468 --> 00:13:58,205 An examination of the ballots? 322 00:13:58,238 --> 00:13:59,907 Another lawsuit. 323 00:13:59,940 --> 00:14:02,575 To find out what really happened in Baldwin County, 324 00:14:02,609 --> 00:14:05,078 we would be back in court. 325 00:14:05,112 --> 00:14:07,380 - The data patterns and the data show clear 326 00:14:07,414 --> 00:14:11,484 data manipulation that stole the election from Siegelman. 327 00:14:11,518 --> 00:14:13,253 - [Narrator] Sometime after the election, 328 00:14:13,286 --> 00:14:15,122 Riley Chief of Staff, Dan Gans, 329 00:14:15,155 --> 00:14:17,257 who had been seen at the Baldwin County office 330 00:14:17,290 --> 00:14:19,026 on that fateful night with a laptop, 331 00:14:19,059 --> 00:14:21,294 went on to work for the Alexander Strategy Group, 332 00:14:21,328 --> 00:14:24,297 a lobbying firm associated with convicted lobbyist 333 00:14:24,331 --> 00:14:25,665 Jack Abramoff. 334 00:14:25,698 --> 00:14:28,268 Multiple reports have said that his bio 335 00:14:28,301 --> 00:14:31,304 on their now-defunct website stated that he had, 336 00:14:31,338 --> 00:14:34,174 quote, "Implemented a state of the art ballot security 337 00:14:34,207 --> 00:14:37,144 "program that was critical to securing Governor-elect 338 00:14:37,177 --> 00:14:41,181 "Riley's narrow margin of victory, 3,120 votes." 339 00:14:42,682 --> 00:14:45,585 - The people of Alabama spoke last night. 340 00:14:45,618 --> 00:14:49,589 The only problem is the governor did not wait 341 00:14:49,622 --> 00:14:52,459 until they stopped speaking. 342 00:14:52,492 --> 00:14:54,527 (cheering) 343 00:14:54,561 --> 00:14:58,231 - The substantial decline in the percentage of the vote 344 00:14:58,265 --> 00:15:01,969 that went from Siegelman from the county before 345 00:15:02,002 --> 00:15:05,172 to the county this time and the fact that that 346 00:15:05,205 --> 00:15:08,408 significant decline occurred when everybody 347 00:15:08,441 --> 00:15:10,978 was locked out of the voting, 348 00:15:11,011 --> 00:15:14,314 observing how the votes were counted and other such things, 349 00:15:14,347 --> 00:15:16,516 if you're not suspicious about that, 350 00:15:16,549 --> 00:15:18,185 you shouldn't be an adult. 351 00:15:18,218 --> 00:15:20,553 (chuckling) 352 00:15:21,989 --> 00:15:24,391 (gentle music) 353 00:15:25,392 --> 00:15:27,427 (clicking) 354 00:15:31,331 --> 00:15:33,633 (piano music) 355 00:15:36,103 --> 00:15:38,405 - We want people to know that we're very proud 356 00:15:38,438 --> 00:15:40,307 of who our dad is. 357 00:15:40,340 --> 00:15:43,376 We're very proud of him and what he represents. 358 00:15:43,410 --> 00:15:45,745 We want people to know that we're his kids 359 00:15:45,778 --> 00:15:48,315 and that we stand by him as much now, if not more, 360 00:15:48,348 --> 00:15:50,250 than we ever have in the past. 361 00:15:50,283 --> 00:15:54,387 - I am the father of two wonderful children. 362 00:15:54,421 --> 00:15:56,589 We want them to have the best opportunities in life 363 00:15:56,623 --> 00:15:59,659 and we know that the road to those opportunities 364 00:15:59,692 --> 00:16:02,462 starts at the schoolhouse door, 365 00:16:02,495 --> 00:16:05,065 and they remind me each and every day 366 00:16:05,098 --> 00:16:07,434 how great it is to be a dad. 367 00:16:07,467 --> 00:16:10,770 - Police chiefs, sheriffs and district attorneys 368 00:16:10,803 --> 00:16:14,641 are for Don Siegelman because he's helped them fight crime. 369 00:16:14,674 --> 00:16:17,544 - And he will fight to get guns and drugs 370 00:16:17,577 --> 00:16:19,246 out of our schools. 371 00:16:19,279 --> 00:16:23,416 - We loved our dad and he tried to give a voice 372 00:16:23,450 --> 00:16:26,553 to as many people who he felt needed a voice 373 00:16:26,586 --> 00:16:28,388 and hadn't had a voice. 374 00:16:28,421 --> 00:16:31,324 He just loved people and genuinely. 375 00:16:31,358 --> 00:16:34,394 It wasn't a fake sort of I have to do this. 376 00:16:34,427 --> 00:16:37,797 It was an authentic I get to do this. 377 00:16:37,830 --> 00:16:41,201 - Like so many of you, my wife and I know 378 00:16:41,234 --> 00:16:44,304 firsthand the impact of crime. 379 00:16:44,337 --> 00:16:48,708 We were hit head-on by a career criminal driving drunk. 380 00:16:48,741 --> 00:16:50,743 I almost lost my family. 381 00:16:52,312 --> 00:16:55,082 I remember holding Laurie in my arms, 382 00:16:55,115 --> 00:16:58,085 waiting for the ambulance to arrive, 383 00:16:59,419 --> 00:17:03,256 praying and wondering whether she would live or die. 384 00:17:06,326 --> 00:17:09,262 Laurie and I saw our criminal justice system 385 00:17:09,296 --> 00:17:12,499 more concerned with processing criminals 386 00:17:12,532 --> 00:17:15,368 than protecting victim's rights. 387 00:17:15,402 --> 00:17:17,070 After only 48 hours, 388 00:17:18,438 --> 00:17:21,308 while Laurie was still in God's hands, 389 00:17:21,341 --> 00:17:23,443 our assailant was back on the streets. 390 00:17:23,476 --> 00:17:25,545 I make this pledge. 391 00:17:25,578 --> 00:17:29,582 I will work night and day to make your families, 392 00:17:30,750 --> 00:17:33,520 your homes and your communities safer. 393 00:17:33,553 --> 00:17:37,724 (uplifting music) (applause) 394 00:17:38,858 --> 00:17:41,161 - He did something that no elected official 395 00:17:41,194 --> 00:17:42,495 in the history of the state ever did. 396 00:17:42,529 --> 00:17:44,597 He was elected to all four 397 00:17:44,631 --> 00:17:47,734 statewide constitutional positions. 398 00:17:47,767 --> 00:17:50,503 He was elected Secretary of State, 399 00:17:50,537 --> 00:17:53,140 Attorney General, Lieutenant Governor. 400 00:17:53,173 --> 00:17:56,643 - And now I need your help and vote on Tuesday. 401 00:17:56,676 --> 00:17:58,611 - [Bob] And Governor. 402 00:17:58,645 --> 00:18:01,381 - There's never been another politician like Don Siegelman, 403 00:18:01,414 --> 00:18:02,282 and I'm talking about George Wallace, 404 00:18:02,315 --> 00:18:03,850 whoever else you wanna throw in there. 405 00:18:03,883 --> 00:18:05,552 You can talk to anybody in this town, 406 00:18:05,585 --> 00:18:07,120 people that knew Governor Wallace, 407 00:18:07,154 --> 00:18:09,622 who was as a relentless and tireless campaigner. 408 00:18:09,656 --> 00:18:11,458 Those people will tell you right up front 409 00:18:11,491 --> 00:18:15,228 that Don Siegelman was maybe the greatest campaigner 410 00:18:15,262 --> 00:18:17,397 that has ever been in the history of this state. 411 00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:19,399 Don Siegelman was relentless. 412 00:18:19,432 --> 00:18:22,335 - The time for talk is over. 413 00:18:22,369 --> 00:18:23,403 We need action. 414 00:18:23,436 --> 00:18:25,305 We need a constitutional convention. 415 00:18:25,338 --> 00:18:26,906 We need to change our tax structure. 416 00:18:26,939 --> 00:18:29,142 We need to invest in education, 417 00:18:29,176 --> 00:18:32,412 and I trust the people do be able to do that. 418 00:18:32,445 --> 00:18:34,514 - Don Siegelman is a hero to a lot of people. 419 00:18:34,547 --> 00:18:39,352 I walked the streets a few times in Montgomery with Don 420 00:18:39,386 --> 00:18:40,720 and I've never seen anything like it. 421 00:18:40,753 --> 00:18:43,323 They don't do that for me in Phoenix. 422 00:18:43,356 --> 00:18:45,925 They don't pull over and wave and come over 423 00:18:45,958 --> 00:18:48,395 and give you a hug and thank you 424 00:18:48,428 --> 00:18:50,230 for all you've done for us. 425 00:18:50,263 --> 00:18:53,833 It's people across the board viewed him as a hero. 426 00:18:53,866 --> 00:18:57,604 - Don Siegelman was a Clinton-esque figure. 427 00:18:59,406 --> 00:19:02,375 Matter of fact, he was mentioned as potential 428 00:19:02,409 --> 00:19:05,445 candidate for President of the United States. 429 00:19:05,478 --> 00:19:06,613 He was that good. 430 00:19:06,646 --> 00:19:07,947 - And anytime you're in politics, 431 00:19:07,980 --> 00:19:10,217 if you're gonna get something done, 432 00:19:10,250 --> 00:19:12,319 you gotta push somebody occasionally, 433 00:19:12,352 --> 00:19:14,287 and he didn't mind pushing, 434 00:19:14,321 --> 00:19:17,357 but he always pushed in the right direction. 435 00:19:17,390 --> 00:19:19,526 - So the Republicans felt threatened 436 00:19:19,559 --> 00:19:21,928 as long as Don Siegelman was around. 437 00:19:21,961 --> 00:19:24,897 Lo and behold, they started to target him 438 00:19:24,931 --> 00:19:28,935 and to manipulate the criminal justice system. 439 00:19:28,968 --> 00:19:31,538 (solemn music) 440 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,609 - Don Siegelman ran for governor on a platform 441 00:19:36,643 --> 00:19:40,980 that called for the approval of a state-wide lottery 442 00:19:41,013 --> 00:19:43,916 and the proceeds of the lottery were 443 00:19:43,950 --> 00:19:45,552 to go toward education. 444 00:19:45,585 --> 00:19:47,954 - An education lottery is so critical 445 00:19:47,987 --> 00:19:50,423 to the future of Alabama. 446 00:19:50,457 --> 00:19:52,625 Only the people of Alabama should have 447 00:19:52,659 --> 00:19:54,527 the right to decide. 448 00:19:55,662 --> 00:19:58,698 - Public education in Alabama was not in good shape. 449 00:19:58,731 --> 00:20:01,268 Siegelman was committed to changing it. 450 00:20:01,301 --> 00:20:03,236 We had looked closely at Georgia 451 00:20:03,270 --> 00:20:07,240 as our neighboring state on how the lottery had almost 452 00:20:07,274 --> 00:20:09,576 single-handedly transformed education. 453 00:20:09,609 --> 00:20:11,878 Suddenly pre-K was available to everyone. 454 00:20:11,911 --> 00:20:14,814 Technology was in schools and if you graduated 455 00:20:14,847 --> 00:20:16,683 with a good enough grade point, 456 00:20:16,716 --> 00:20:18,751 you went to college on a scholarship. 457 00:20:18,785 --> 00:20:20,620 We wanted that in Alabama. 458 00:20:20,653 --> 00:20:23,656 - Adequacy is not good enough for my children 459 00:20:23,690 --> 00:20:24,691 nor do I think it's good enough 460 00:20:24,724 --> 00:20:25,958 for the children of this state. 461 00:20:25,992 --> 00:20:28,628 The governor has argued that portable classrooms 462 00:20:28,661 --> 00:20:31,264 are an adequate place for people to learn. 463 00:20:31,298 --> 00:20:32,932 Number one, it's not safe from fires. 464 00:20:32,965 --> 00:20:35,402 It would take about 60 seconds to burn down 465 00:20:35,435 --> 00:20:37,036 one of those structures completely. 466 00:20:37,069 --> 00:20:39,639 - By having the approval of this lottery, 467 00:20:39,672 --> 00:20:42,375 it would have changed the status of the state of Alabama 468 00:20:42,409 --> 00:20:45,645 to such that the tribe in the state 469 00:20:45,678 --> 00:20:47,980 would have been able to legally game 470 00:20:48,014 --> 00:20:50,517 or have gambling facilities in the state. 471 00:20:50,550 --> 00:20:52,285 - [Interviewer] I see, so if the lottery education 472 00:20:52,319 --> 00:20:53,753 fund was passed, 473 00:20:53,786 --> 00:20:56,022 that automatically opened the door to casinos? 474 00:20:56,055 --> 00:20:58,591 - Right, to tribal gaming casinos there. 475 00:20:58,625 --> 00:21:00,827 - Obviously, if Alabama had a lottery 476 00:21:00,860 --> 00:21:04,531 it would hurt Indian tribes in Mississippi. 477 00:21:04,564 --> 00:21:08,968 Choctaw Indian tribe had a big operation in Philadelphia 478 00:21:09,001 --> 00:21:12,004 about 50 miles from the Alabama line 479 00:21:12,038 --> 00:21:14,774 and Choctaw Indians gave a lot of money 480 00:21:14,807 --> 00:21:18,745 to Republican strategists Abramoff and Scanlon. 481 00:21:20,347 --> 00:21:21,748 - [Narrator] Scanlon, who had previously served 482 00:21:21,781 --> 00:21:24,584 as press secretary for then Congressman Bob Riley, 483 00:21:24,617 --> 00:21:27,420 joined forces with lobbyist Jack Abramoff. 484 00:21:27,454 --> 00:21:29,656 Their client, the Choctaw Casino in Mississippi, 485 00:21:29,689 --> 00:21:32,425 secretly paid them $20 million, 486 00:21:32,459 --> 00:21:34,394 funneled through various PACs to defeat 487 00:21:34,427 --> 00:21:36,663 Siegelman's education lottery referendum, 488 00:21:36,696 --> 00:21:38,698 thus preventing any possible competition 489 00:21:38,731 --> 00:21:41,368 from any new casinos built in Alabama. 490 00:21:41,401 --> 00:21:44,103 - We expected the Indian casinos in Mississippi 491 00:21:44,136 --> 00:21:46,439 to oppose the lottery referendum, 492 00:21:46,473 --> 00:21:49,008 but what we didn't expect was for there to be 493 00:21:49,041 --> 00:21:52,845 a secret network of people pulled together 494 00:21:52,879 --> 00:21:55,948 to illegally funnel this money into Alabama. 495 00:21:55,982 --> 00:21:59,419 There was a off-handed comment that they had raised it 496 00:21:59,452 --> 00:22:03,690 at church bake sales, but that didn't happen. 497 00:22:03,723 --> 00:22:05,658 - [Narrator] A U.S. Senate committee investigation, 498 00:22:05,692 --> 00:22:07,760 headed by John McCain, found that part of the money 499 00:22:07,794 --> 00:22:10,863 had been funneled through 501c4 organizations 500 00:22:10,897 --> 00:22:12,765 and eventually found their way to grass roots 501 00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:15,568 lobbying campaigns led by one of Abramoff's 502 00:22:15,602 --> 00:22:17,904 old friends, Ralph Reed. 503 00:22:17,937 --> 00:22:21,741 - Ralph and I got ouR cert together in college Republicans, 504 00:22:21,774 --> 00:22:25,512 in the Republican party and had spent our entire lives 505 00:22:25,545 --> 00:22:27,980 working to elect Republicans and defeat Democrats. 506 00:22:28,014 --> 00:22:30,417 - [Narrator] Funded by the Choctaws, Reed went to work 507 00:22:30,450 --> 00:22:32,585 on church-going voters using a strategy 508 00:22:32,619 --> 00:22:34,454 that proved incredibly effective, 509 00:22:34,487 --> 00:22:36,656 if not an outright moral contradiction. 510 00:22:36,689 --> 00:22:38,758 In a document presented during the Congressional 511 00:22:38,791 --> 00:22:40,627 investigation on Indian Affairs, 512 00:22:40,660 --> 00:22:42,962 lobbyist Michael Scanlon spelled out their strategy 513 00:22:42,995 --> 00:22:44,997 in direct but not so polite terms. 514 00:22:45,031 --> 00:22:47,700 "Simply put, we want to bring out the wackos 515 00:22:47,734 --> 00:22:49,569 "to vote against something and make sure 516 00:22:49,602 --> 00:22:51,538 "the rest of the public lets the whole thing 517 00:22:51,571 --> 00:22:52,839 "slip past them. 518 00:22:52,872 --> 00:22:54,974 "The wackos get their information from the Christian right, 519 00:22:55,007 --> 00:22:57,577 "Christian radio, mail, the Internet 520 00:22:57,610 --> 00:22:58,645 "and telephone trees." 521 00:22:58,678 --> 00:23:01,481 Over the years, Ralph Reed and his organization 522 00:23:01,514 --> 00:23:02,782 had developed close associations 523 00:23:02,815 --> 00:23:04,584 with church administrators throughout 524 00:23:04,617 --> 00:23:07,186 the southern states to amass a vast database 525 00:23:07,219 --> 00:23:10,523 of personal information about individual church members, 526 00:23:10,557 --> 00:23:13,125 the kind of highly concentrated group of consumers 527 00:23:13,159 --> 00:23:15,562 that marketers only dream about. 528 00:23:15,595 --> 00:23:17,697 Using this list and the marketing methods 529 00:23:17,730 --> 00:23:20,032 described by Scanlon, Reed targeted Christian 530 00:23:20,066 --> 00:23:21,701 voters with a simple message, 531 00:23:21,734 --> 00:23:23,936 don't vote for the education lottery fund 532 00:23:23,970 --> 00:23:26,439 because it contradicts Christian values. 533 00:23:26,473 --> 00:23:28,875 Little did they know the money behind the message 534 00:23:28,908 --> 00:23:30,443 was casino cash. 535 00:23:31,878 --> 00:23:33,713 To counter the Abramoff-Reed campaign 536 00:23:33,746 --> 00:23:34,581 against the referendum, 537 00:23:34,614 --> 00:23:36,583 proponents of the education lottery 538 00:23:36,616 --> 00:23:38,150 began their own marketing efforts 539 00:23:38,184 --> 00:23:41,187 and created the first of two non-profit organizations. 540 00:23:41,220 --> 00:23:43,723 To pay for local advertisements in marketing, 541 00:23:43,756 --> 00:23:46,893 they took out a loan for over one million dollars. 542 00:23:46,926 --> 00:23:49,696 - At the beginning of the campaign for the lottery, 543 00:23:49,729 --> 00:23:52,899 we helped fund an effort and we sent politicos 544 00:23:52,932 --> 00:23:55,602 into work in Alabama to defeat this 545 00:23:55,635 --> 00:23:58,037 and it was defeated at the end by two to one. 546 00:23:58,070 --> 00:24:00,072 - [Narrator] The Alabama education lottery fund, 547 00:24:00,106 --> 00:24:02,008 the non-profit organization covering 548 00:24:02,041 --> 00:24:03,910 all the expenses of the referendum, 549 00:24:03,943 --> 00:24:08,014 still owed about half a million dollars. 550 00:24:08,047 --> 00:24:09,849 - It happened to be Alabama had kind of 551 00:24:09,882 --> 00:24:13,686 unfortunate circumstance of a very Republican state, 552 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,689 having lost the governorship to a democrat 553 00:24:16,723 --> 00:24:20,527 and being proximate to the state that contained 554 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,795 our large client, the Choctaws, 555 00:24:22,829 --> 00:24:25,665 and then eventually we made the decision that 556 00:24:25,698 --> 00:24:27,900 we had to do what we could to make sure 557 00:24:27,934 --> 00:24:30,703 he wasn't re-elected because he was a continuing 558 00:24:30,737 --> 00:24:33,873 and ongoing threat to our client in Mississippi. 559 00:24:33,906 --> 00:24:37,076 (gloomy music) 560 00:24:37,109 --> 00:24:38,678 - [Narrator] Sometime after our interview 561 00:24:38,711 --> 00:24:40,780 with Jack Abramoff, we obtained an email 562 00:24:40,813 --> 00:24:43,115 he sent to his business partner, Michael Scanlon, 563 00:24:43,149 --> 00:24:45,685 where he made it clear what their casino client 564 00:24:45,718 --> 00:24:48,888 expected of Riley in return for their financial support 565 00:24:48,921 --> 00:24:51,858 by explicitly stating that the Choctaws definitely want 566 00:24:51,891 --> 00:24:54,861 Riley to shut down the Poarch Creek operation. 567 00:24:54,894 --> 00:24:56,929 The Poarch Creek Indian tribe owned casinos 568 00:24:56,963 --> 00:24:58,898 in neighboring Alabama and were considered 569 00:24:58,931 --> 00:25:01,901 by the Choctaws to be their primary competition. 570 00:25:01,934 --> 00:25:04,203 While Siegelman held the state's top office, 571 00:25:04,236 --> 00:25:06,539 his rivals wasted no time in targeting 572 00:25:06,573 --> 00:25:07,974 the newly elected governor. 573 00:25:08,007 --> 00:25:09,842 Bill Pryor, the same Attorney General 574 00:25:09,876 --> 00:25:12,244 that would later stop the recount in Baldwin County, 575 00:25:12,278 --> 00:25:14,246 issued financial subpoenas for Siegelman 576 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,016 and his staff only weeks after taking office, 577 00:25:17,049 --> 00:25:19,285 hardly enough time for anyone to do anything 578 00:25:19,318 --> 00:25:21,554 that would warrant an investigation. 579 00:25:21,588 --> 00:25:22,822 - While they're still trying to figure out 580 00:25:22,855 --> 00:25:24,256 how the phone systems work, 581 00:25:24,290 --> 00:25:26,926 while they're still arranging furniture, 582 00:25:26,959 --> 00:25:28,895 an investigation is underway. 583 00:25:28,928 --> 00:25:31,197 - [Narrator] Bill Pryor, the Republican Attorney General 584 00:25:31,230 --> 00:25:33,032 that initiated the investigation, 585 00:25:33,065 --> 00:25:35,702 worked with political consultants Karl Rove 586 00:25:35,735 --> 00:25:37,169 and his partner, Bill Canary. 587 00:25:37,203 --> 00:25:40,272 Soon after taking office in Washington in 2001, 588 00:25:40,306 --> 00:25:42,875 the Bush Administration appointed Leura Canary 589 00:25:42,909 --> 00:25:44,577 as the new Federal Prosecutor 590 00:25:44,611 --> 00:25:46,045 for the middle district of Alabama. 591 00:25:46,078 --> 00:25:48,581 She happened to be the wife of Bill Canary, 592 00:25:48,615 --> 00:25:51,117 Karl Rove's colleague and political consulting partner. 593 00:25:51,150 --> 00:25:53,119 This means that the Federal Prosecutor 594 00:25:53,152 --> 00:25:55,021 legally pursing Governor Siegelman 595 00:25:55,054 --> 00:25:57,957 is married to the campaign manager of his opponent 596 00:25:57,990 --> 00:25:59,358 in the upcoming election. 597 00:25:59,391 --> 00:26:01,594 Even though there's no premise for the investigations 598 00:26:01,628 --> 00:26:02,862 of Governor Siegelman, 599 00:26:02,895 --> 00:26:05,231 the negative publicity and false accusations 600 00:26:05,264 --> 00:26:07,900 help her husband's client by smearing Siegelman's 601 00:26:07,934 --> 00:26:10,269 political image in the press. 602 00:26:10,302 --> 00:26:12,004 - So, it's pretty cut and dry 603 00:26:12,038 --> 00:26:13,973 that the moment that Leure Canary 604 00:26:14,006 --> 00:26:18,177 became the U.S. Attorney, her husband was being paid 605 00:26:19,679 --> 00:26:22,882 by one of Governor Siegelman's political opponents. 606 00:26:22,915 --> 00:26:26,753 So getting Don Siegelman benefited her husband 607 00:26:28,387 --> 00:26:31,658 and all of a sudden, when she takes over, 608 00:26:31,691 --> 00:26:35,327 the case gets new energy, action ramps up 609 00:26:35,361 --> 00:26:38,698 as far as a grand jury investigating everything 610 00:26:38,731 --> 00:26:40,032 you can imagine. 611 00:26:40,066 --> 00:26:42,068 - [Narrator] With almost unlimited resources, 612 00:26:42,101 --> 00:26:43,903 and without any evidence of a crime, 613 00:26:43,936 --> 00:26:46,072 prosecutors began looking for anything 614 00:26:46,105 --> 00:26:48,908 that could smear or tarnish their Democratic rival. 615 00:26:48,941 --> 00:26:51,010 They question hundreds of people, 616 00:26:51,043 --> 00:26:53,746 including campaign donors in an obvious attempt 617 00:26:53,780 --> 00:26:57,016 to discourage future contributions to Siegelman's campaign. 618 00:26:57,049 --> 00:26:59,919 They also issued dozens of grand jury subpoenas 619 00:26:59,952 --> 00:27:02,321 in hopes of finding something to pin on him. 620 00:27:02,354 --> 00:27:04,390 As Canary's efforts quickly gained momentum, 621 00:27:04,423 --> 00:27:06,993 Siegelman's attorney, David Cromwell Johnson, 622 00:27:07,026 --> 00:27:08,828 makes a statement on the courthouse steps 623 00:27:08,861 --> 00:27:12,298 regarding Leura Canary's obvious conflict of interest. 624 00:27:12,331 --> 00:27:13,833 - These are real canaries, by the way. 625 00:27:13,866 --> 00:27:15,201 The difference between a canary and a parakeet 626 00:27:15,234 --> 00:27:19,438 is a canary sings and that's what's been happening. 627 00:27:19,471 --> 00:27:21,841 The next step is I wanna go to Washington 628 00:27:21,874 --> 00:27:23,976 and talk to those people about what's happening here. 629 00:27:24,010 --> 00:27:24,877 This is a very serious matter. 630 00:27:24,911 --> 00:27:26,979 It's a violation of the criminal code, 631 00:27:27,013 --> 00:27:28,447 the U.S. Attorney's code 632 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,817 and the code of federal regulations 633 00:27:30,850 --> 00:27:33,052 and she's got to get off this case. 634 00:27:33,085 --> 00:27:35,187 - [Narrator] Leura Canary soon offers a public statement 635 00:27:35,221 --> 00:27:37,023 saying that Justice Department officials 636 00:27:37,056 --> 00:27:39,992 in Washington said there was no conflict of interest. 637 00:27:40,026 --> 00:27:42,394 "However," she said, "out of an abundance of caution, 638 00:27:42,428 --> 00:27:44,764 "I will recuse myself from the case." 639 00:27:44,797 --> 00:27:47,066 Despite her statement, no official documents 640 00:27:47,099 --> 00:27:49,736 were ever produced to back up her claim. 641 00:27:49,769 --> 00:27:50,870 - That's mind boggling. 642 00:27:50,903 --> 00:27:54,140 The fact that the Justice Department would tell her 643 00:27:54,173 --> 00:27:55,742 that she didn't have a conflict when her husband 644 00:27:55,775 --> 00:27:57,877 was working for Don Siegelman's political opponents. 645 00:27:57,910 --> 00:27:59,211 Well, we know she's lying. 646 00:27:59,245 --> 00:28:02,448 Even a blind man can see that conflict of interest. 647 00:28:02,481 --> 00:28:03,883 It's almost comical. 648 00:28:03,916 --> 00:28:05,918 If I wrote that down, if I took this case 649 00:28:05,952 --> 00:28:09,121 and wrote it as a movie script, it would be rejected. 650 00:28:09,155 --> 00:28:11,891 If I wrote it out as a novel outline, it would be rejected. 651 00:28:11,924 --> 00:28:13,893 People would say it's unrealistic. 652 00:28:13,926 --> 00:28:15,962 - [Narrator] Canary ostensibly turned the case over 653 00:28:15,995 --> 00:28:17,096 to her assistants, 654 00:28:17,129 --> 00:28:20,867 Deputy Prosecutors Stephen Faega and Louis Franklin. 655 00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:24,036 - When Louis Franklin says he was the person 656 00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:27,940 who was making the decisions, the buck stopped here, 657 00:28:27,974 --> 00:28:30,977 Leura Canary was not involved in it, 658 00:28:31,010 --> 00:28:35,181 that was a conscious lie and this is a lie that mattered. 659 00:28:36,115 --> 00:28:37,483 (dramatic chord) 660 00:28:37,516 --> 00:28:39,752 - [Narrator] Faega and Franklin rapidly expanded 661 00:28:39,786 --> 00:28:42,188 the investigation by questioning hundreds 662 00:28:42,221 --> 00:28:44,056 of potential witnesses looking for a crime 663 00:28:44,090 --> 00:28:45,958 to prosecute Siegelman. 664 00:28:45,992 --> 00:28:48,828 - They were absolutely targeting Don Siegelman. 665 00:28:48,861 --> 00:28:50,763 They were threatening people, 666 00:28:50,797 --> 00:28:52,098 trying to get them to say certain things 667 00:28:52,131 --> 00:28:54,200 so that they could prosecute him. 668 00:28:54,233 --> 00:28:57,403 They went to Dr. Phillip Bobo's home in Tuscaloosa 669 00:28:57,436 --> 00:28:58,805 late at night. 670 00:28:58,838 --> 00:29:01,007 They threatened him. 671 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,141 They wanted him to say certain things 672 00:29:02,174 --> 00:29:03,810 against Governor Siegelman. 673 00:29:03,843 --> 00:29:06,378 He wouldn't lie and they brought charges against him 674 00:29:06,412 --> 00:29:07,814 in another case. 675 00:29:07,847 --> 00:29:10,549 - It was led by a team of prosecutors 676 00:29:10,582 --> 00:29:12,118 out of the Northern District, 677 00:29:12,151 --> 00:29:15,321 primarily Matt Hart who had previously 678 00:29:16,956 --> 00:29:21,093 tried the case, indicted him, convicted him, 679 00:29:21,127 --> 00:29:23,262 then the 11th Circuit overturned it. 680 00:29:23,295 --> 00:29:25,998 They continued after this doctor, 681 00:29:26,032 --> 00:29:29,568 destroyed his practice, destroyed his family life 682 00:29:29,601 --> 00:29:32,238 and ultimately he was acquitted. 683 00:29:32,271 --> 00:29:34,373 - [Narrator] Soon after Dr. Bobo was acquitted, 684 00:29:34,406 --> 00:29:37,243 prosecutors led by Bush appointee Alice Martin 685 00:29:37,276 --> 00:29:40,379 indicted him again with virtually the same charge. 686 00:29:40,412 --> 00:29:43,182 However, this new indictment named Don Siegelman 687 00:29:43,215 --> 00:29:45,317 and his former chief of staff Paul Hamrick 688 00:29:45,351 --> 00:29:47,419 as co-defendants. 689 00:29:47,453 --> 00:29:51,824 - The basic charge was conspiracy in Medicaid for all. 690 00:29:53,059 --> 00:29:55,427 Once a jury was chosen in the case, 691 00:29:55,461 --> 00:29:57,229 I conducted a hearing 692 00:29:59,231 --> 00:30:02,434 to determine whether the government has sufficient evidence 693 00:30:02,468 --> 00:30:06,472 of a conspiracy and the witnesses who testified, 694 00:30:08,174 --> 00:30:10,076 called by the government, 695 00:30:10,109 --> 00:30:14,180 convinced me that there was absolutely nothing to 696 00:30:14,213 --> 00:30:16,248 this charge of conspiracy 697 00:30:16,282 --> 00:30:19,485 and so I dismissed the conspiracy charge, 698 00:30:19,518 --> 00:30:22,889 notified the parties that we were gonna proceed to trial. 699 00:30:22,922 --> 00:30:27,526 At that point, the government dismissed the case 700 00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:30,997 and I insisted that it be dismissed with prejudice 701 00:30:31,030 --> 00:30:32,398 and so it was. 702 00:30:32,431 --> 00:30:36,335 In my 29 years seven months as a federal judge, 703 00:30:38,504 --> 00:30:42,508 this was the most unfounded criminal prosecution 704 00:30:43,943 --> 00:30:44,843 that I saw. 705 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,417 (gentle music) 706 00:30:51,450 --> 00:30:53,886 (clicking) 707 00:30:59,258 --> 00:31:02,028 (gloomy music) 708 00:31:17,376 --> 00:31:18,677 - [Narrator] With the trial behind him 709 00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:19,678 and polls showing support, 710 00:31:19,711 --> 00:31:22,214 Siegelman announced that he would challenge Riley 711 00:31:22,248 --> 00:31:25,017 in the 2006 governor's race. 712 00:31:25,051 --> 00:31:27,419 - Don Siegelman immediately set about talking 713 00:31:27,453 --> 00:31:31,023 about running for governor again in 2006 714 00:31:31,057 --> 00:31:32,558 and polls showed that Don Siegelman 715 00:31:32,591 --> 00:31:34,927 would beat Bob Riley in a rematch. 716 00:31:34,961 --> 00:31:38,497 So that really set off alarm bells in Republican circles. 717 00:31:38,530 --> 00:31:39,966 - [Narrator] Just after Siegelman announced 718 00:31:39,999 --> 00:31:41,934 his intention to challenge Riley for governor, 719 00:31:41,968 --> 00:31:43,970 prosecutors under Leura Canary 720 00:31:44,003 --> 00:31:47,006 immediately reanimated an old investigation against him 721 00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:49,708 that had been closed because of lack of evidence. 722 00:31:49,741 --> 00:31:53,212 - The evidence was not there to convict Don Siegelman. 723 00:31:53,245 --> 00:31:54,646 The evidence simply was not there. 724 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,016 So how do you go about trying to get a conviction? 725 00:31:57,049 --> 00:31:58,384 Well you have to get someone to testify. 726 00:31:58,417 --> 00:32:01,087 You have to get someone to cut some sort of a deal. 727 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,356 There's a continuing pattern of intimidating witnesses 728 00:32:04,390 --> 00:32:06,058 and trying to get people to lie 729 00:32:06,092 --> 00:32:08,260 in order to say what these people wanted 730 00:32:08,294 --> 00:32:10,429 in order to make a case against Governor Siegelman 731 00:32:10,462 --> 00:32:12,464 and they've done this throughout the years. 732 00:32:12,498 --> 00:32:15,634 This is another pattern of misconduct on their part. 733 00:32:15,667 --> 00:32:20,306 - We did, with this case, what we do with every case. 734 00:32:20,339 --> 00:32:22,641 There was evidence out there, 735 00:32:22,674 --> 00:32:26,112 we investigated, we looked at evidence, 736 00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:29,015 and we went where it took us. 737 00:32:29,048 --> 00:32:31,117 It took us back to him. 738 00:32:31,150 --> 00:32:33,185 - [Narrator] Instead of using current FBI agents, 739 00:32:33,219 --> 00:32:35,121 Canary's office quietly contracted 740 00:32:35,154 --> 00:32:38,124 three retired investigators who had previously worked 741 00:32:38,157 --> 00:32:41,227 under then former Alabama attorney general Jeff Sessions. 742 00:32:41,260 --> 00:32:43,162 Together they scoured every aspect 743 00:32:43,195 --> 00:32:46,065 of Siegelman's personal, private, and public life 744 00:32:46,098 --> 00:32:49,168 in hopes of finding something to charge him with. 745 00:32:49,201 --> 00:32:51,670 About the same time, prosecutor Alice Martin, 746 00:32:51,703 --> 00:32:53,605 who had just lost the Siegelman case, 747 00:32:53,639 --> 00:32:56,608 indicted Richard Scrushy, then CEO of the state's 748 00:32:56,642 --> 00:32:59,178 largest healthcare company HealthSouth, 749 00:32:59,211 --> 00:33:01,047 as the first person ever charged 750 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,382 under the new Sarbanes-Oxley Act. 751 00:33:03,415 --> 00:33:05,151 By the time the case went to trial, 752 00:33:05,184 --> 00:33:07,019 it received enormous media attention 753 00:33:07,053 --> 00:33:08,454 from all over the world 754 00:33:08,487 --> 00:33:11,123 and billed as the financial trial of the century, 755 00:33:11,157 --> 00:33:12,558 just what prosecutors wanted. 756 00:33:12,591 --> 00:33:15,194 Eventually, five of HealthSouth's CFOs 757 00:33:15,227 --> 00:33:16,128 pled guilty to fraud. 758 00:33:16,162 --> 00:33:18,430 However, Richard Scrushy was found not guilty 759 00:33:18,464 --> 00:33:19,631 of all charges. 760 00:33:19,665 --> 00:33:22,734 - The government spared no resources 761 00:33:22,768 --> 00:33:25,137 to try to take down Richard. 762 00:33:25,171 --> 00:33:27,373 Between the Security Exchange Commission, 763 00:33:27,406 --> 00:33:30,409 the FBI, the Northern District of Alabama, 764 00:33:30,442 --> 00:33:32,411 the press, the publicity, 765 00:33:32,444 --> 00:33:34,613 they went all out, they went gung-ho 766 00:33:34,646 --> 00:33:36,148 to try to take down Richard. 767 00:33:36,182 --> 00:33:39,185 After all this effort, Richard was acquitted. 768 00:33:39,218 --> 00:33:41,653 Alice Martin suffered a huge defeat, 769 00:33:41,687 --> 00:33:44,123 ruined her possibility for a federal judgeship 770 00:33:44,156 --> 00:33:46,492 and I can imagine what it did to her ego. 771 00:33:46,525 --> 00:33:49,128 - [Narrator] After a second embarrassing loss for Martin, 772 00:33:49,161 --> 00:33:50,262 prosecutors in the Middle District 773 00:33:50,296 --> 00:33:53,665 sought to capitalize on Richard Scrushy's bad reputation 774 00:33:53,699 --> 00:33:55,101 that had been completely smeared 775 00:33:55,134 --> 00:33:57,436 after years of constant negative press 776 00:33:57,469 --> 00:34:00,639 by targeting him for another prosecution. 777 00:34:00,672 --> 00:34:03,609 - Even though Richard Scrushy prevailed 778 00:34:03,642 --> 00:34:07,146 in that first SEC and mini criminal trial, 779 00:34:08,180 --> 00:34:11,150 his public reputation was smeared. 780 00:34:11,183 --> 00:34:13,552 There was so much negative publicity 781 00:34:13,585 --> 00:34:15,087 in the state of Alabama, 782 00:34:15,121 --> 00:34:17,256 particularly Northern District Alabama, 783 00:34:17,289 --> 00:34:21,460 that people would yell at him and say bad things about him. 784 00:34:23,195 --> 00:34:26,432 So he was set up for someone that could be brought in 785 00:34:26,465 --> 00:34:29,268 to the Siegelman case after they lost the first indictment. 786 00:34:29,301 --> 00:34:31,503 - [Narrator] With hardly any time to recover from the trial, 787 00:34:31,537 --> 00:34:34,206 Canary began threatening Scrushy with another charge 788 00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:36,842 unless he testified against Siegelman. 789 00:34:36,875 --> 00:34:40,179 - My attorneys talked with the prosecutors 790 00:34:40,212 --> 00:34:43,449 about me being dropped out of the prosecution 791 00:34:43,482 --> 00:34:45,817 by testifying against the governor. 792 00:34:45,851 --> 00:34:50,456 The discussion was would Richard say certain things. 793 00:34:50,489 --> 00:34:52,358 All of them centered around something 794 00:34:52,391 --> 00:34:55,594 that would have implicated the governor 795 00:34:55,627 --> 00:34:57,529 in some way that he was guilty of something, 796 00:34:57,563 --> 00:35:01,533 but every one of them were, number one, straight-up lies. 797 00:35:01,567 --> 00:35:03,769 None of the situations they asked me to say 798 00:35:03,802 --> 00:35:05,637 were anywhere near any truth. 799 00:35:05,671 --> 00:35:08,807 There was no way that I could say any of those things. 800 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,543 As a matter of fact, I went home that night 801 00:35:11,577 --> 00:35:13,579 and I sat down with my wife 802 00:35:13,612 --> 00:35:16,515 and I told her these are the things they wanted me to say 803 00:35:16,548 --> 00:35:17,816 and she said "Well you know those are not true" 804 00:35:17,849 --> 00:35:19,318 and I said "Absolutely" 805 00:35:19,351 --> 00:35:21,487 and the decision was made by she and I 806 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,492 that I'm not going at all to go out and lie against this man 807 00:35:26,525 --> 00:35:28,460 and have him go to prison 808 00:35:28,494 --> 00:35:30,896 for something that I said that was not true 809 00:35:30,929 --> 00:35:32,798 and have to live with that the rest of my life 810 00:35:32,831 --> 00:35:33,932 and that was actually what happened. 811 00:35:33,965 --> 00:35:36,635 - [Narrator] Prosecutors also pressured Paul Hamrick, 812 00:35:36,668 --> 00:35:38,337 the governor's former chief of staff, 813 00:35:38,370 --> 00:35:39,738 to lie under oath. 814 00:35:39,771 --> 00:35:41,940 One investigator working under Leura Canary 815 00:35:41,973 --> 00:35:43,609 stooped to an even lower level 816 00:35:43,642 --> 00:35:46,645 when he cornered Hamrick in a courthouse elevator. 817 00:35:46,678 --> 00:35:50,449 - At a pre-trial hearing at the federal courthouse 818 00:35:50,482 --> 00:35:53,452 is when one of the agents, Bill Ong, 819 00:35:53,485 --> 00:35:56,255 commented to me I had no choice 820 00:35:56,288 --> 00:35:58,857 but to give the testimony that they had told me to give 821 00:35:58,890 --> 00:35:59,958 and when I asked him why 822 00:35:59,991 --> 00:36:03,229 he said well 'cause you've got two young daughters 823 00:36:03,262 --> 00:36:05,264 and I had no choice but to do it, 824 00:36:05,297 --> 00:36:07,466 basically threatening me that they would take me away 825 00:36:07,499 --> 00:36:11,737 from my daughters and I had to do what they wanted me to do. 826 00:36:11,770 --> 00:36:14,840 There's a place in hell for that man. 827 00:36:16,475 --> 00:36:18,777 (gentle music) 828 00:36:18,810 --> 00:36:21,247 (clicking) 829 00:36:25,917 --> 00:36:29,355 - So in 1972 I joined the Republican Party 830 00:36:29,388 --> 00:36:32,358 and I automatically went on the local committee. 831 00:36:32,391 --> 00:36:35,394 There was only but 11 members of the Republican Party 832 00:36:35,427 --> 00:36:36,695 in Montgomery, Alabama 833 00:36:36,728 --> 00:36:38,530 and I was very much involved 834 00:36:38,564 --> 00:36:42,401 and really watched the Republic Party 835 00:36:42,434 --> 00:36:44,736 build here in Alabama. 836 00:36:44,770 --> 00:36:47,273 Unfortunately I watched some of the people 837 00:36:47,306 --> 00:36:51,577 that I thought were not very credible nor honest 838 00:36:51,610 --> 00:36:56,315 begin to come into the party as the tide changed. 839 00:36:56,348 --> 00:36:59,418 In 2001, I got a call from a friend of mine 840 00:36:59,451 --> 00:37:03,021 whose family big Republicans, longtime Republicans 841 00:37:03,054 --> 00:37:07,426 and he said "Tommy, I want you to come to a meeting 842 00:37:09,595 --> 00:37:11,830 "that we're having, local Republicans" 843 00:37:11,863 --> 00:37:14,500 and I said "Well what kind of meeting?" 844 00:37:14,533 --> 00:37:17,303 He said "Well, we've got a plan. 845 00:37:17,336 --> 00:37:20,339 "We've been able to get Leura Canary 846 00:37:20,372 --> 00:37:21,940 "appointed US Attorney 847 00:37:21,973 --> 00:37:25,444 "and Congressman Bob Riley that's gonna run 848 00:37:25,477 --> 00:37:28,280 "against Don Siegelman for governor" 849 00:37:28,314 --> 00:37:30,015 and he said "You're gonna be surprised" 850 00:37:30,048 --> 00:37:31,216 and I said "Well, what?" 851 00:37:31,249 --> 00:37:35,387 And he said "Well, our plan is to indict Don Siegelman." 852 00:37:35,421 --> 00:37:37,656 "You know, you gotta tell me more. 853 00:37:37,689 --> 00:37:41,393 "You mean you're gonna use political prosecution 854 00:37:41,427 --> 00:37:44,763 "to indict somebody in the middle of a political race?" 855 00:37:44,796 --> 00:37:47,032 And he said "Well that's what they tell me." 856 00:37:47,065 --> 00:37:47,899 - [Interviewer] Who is they? 857 00:37:47,933 --> 00:37:51,703 - He said that he thought Karl Rove 858 00:37:51,737 --> 00:37:54,039 was supposed to come to the meeting, 859 00:37:54,072 --> 00:37:58,377 Riley, I later found out, Abramoff, Scanlon, Bill Canary. 860 00:37:59,345 --> 00:38:01,613 I said "Look, I don't want to be a part 861 00:38:01,647 --> 00:38:02,914 "of anything like this. 862 00:38:02,948 --> 00:38:04,383 "Count me out." 863 00:38:04,416 --> 00:38:06,885 And I said "Just this political prosecution 864 00:38:06,918 --> 00:38:08,620 "is just not the way to go." 865 00:38:08,654 --> 00:38:10,856 And so that's the last I heard of it 866 00:38:10,889 --> 00:38:12,524 until the middle of the campaign 867 00:38:12,558 --> 00:38:15,594 between Bob Riley and Don Siegelman, 868 00:38:15,627 --> 00:38:19,931 I pick up the paper, Don Siegelman's been indicted 869 00:38:19,965 --> 00:38:22,801 and I thought holy Moses, are these people for real? 870 00:38:22,834 --> 00:38:25,571 (dramatic music) 871 00:38:30,709 --> 00:38:32,411 - [Narrator] The friend who told him about 872 00:38:32,444 --> 00:38:34,513 the Republican plan to use the judiciary to take over 873 00:38:34,546 --> 00:38:37,849 Alabama was longtime Republican operative Winton Blount 874 00:38:37,883 --> 00:38:39,418 who has since passed away. 875 00:38:39,451 --> 00:38:40,586 Blount had once been chairman 876 00:38:40,619 --> 00:38:42,421 of the Alabama Republican Party 877 00:38:42,454 --> 00:38:44,790 and for decades the Blount family has been well known 878 00:38:44,823 --> 00:38:46,992 among the established ranks of the GOP. 879 00:38:47,025 --> 00:38:48,627 With a strong motive and means, 880 00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:50,462 these Republicans had an opportunity 881 00:38:50,496 --> 00:38:52,063 to complete their sinister plan. 882 00:38:52,097 --> 00:38:55,534 - A new poll came out in October that showed us winning. 883 00:38:55,567 --> 00:38:57,102 After all they'd thrown at him, 884 00:38:57,135 --> 00:38:59,438 Governor Siegelman was still going to walk away 885 00:38:59,471 --> 00:39:01,373 with the nomination and was gonna pose 886 00:39:01,407 --> 00:39:03,074 a serious threat to Bob Riley. 887 00:39:03,108 --> 00:39:05,611 10 days later Don Siegelman was indicted. 888 00:39:05,644 --> 00:39:07,846 - [Narrator] The key allegation made by prosecutors 889 00:39:07,879 --> 00:39:10,649 was that Richard Scrushy bribed Governor Siegelman 890 00:39:10,682 --> 00:39:12,050 with $500,000 891 00:39:12,083 --> 00:39:14,886 for a seat on the Certificate of Need Review Board, 892 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,489 or more commonly known as the CON Board, 893 00:39:17,523 --> 00:39:19,791 a committee that regulates healthcare facilities 894 00:39:19,825 --> 00:39:21,460 around the state. 895 00:39:21,493 --> 00:39:23,595 During the investigation, prosecutors discovered 896 00:39:23,629 --> 00:39:25,864 that a mid-level aid in the administration 897 00:39:25,897 --> 00:39:27,566 was on the take. 898 00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:29,401 Unbeknownst to everyone in the governor's office, 899 00:39:29,435 --> 00:39:32,738 Nick Bailey took bribes totalling more than $100,000 900 00:39:32,771 --> 00:39:34,573 for special favors. 901 00:39:34,606 --> 00:39:37,876 - Nick was called in the investigation of Siegelman. 902 00:39:37,909 --> 00:39:40,446 He left the administration, 903 00:39:40,479 --> 00:39:43,549 cooperated with the FBI and the Justice Department 904 00:39:43,582 --> 00:39:46,017 and eventually pled guilty himself. 905 00:39:46,051 --> 00:39:47,819 - [Narrator] Facing as much as 30 years, 906 00:39:47,853 --> 00:39:49,588 Bailey's attorney George Beck 907 00:39:49,621 --> 00:39:51,089 brokered a deal with prosecutors 908 00:39:51,122 --> 00:39:52,758 to receive a lighter sentence 909 00:39:52,791 --> 00:39:55,927 if he agreed to testify against his former boss, 910 00:39:55,961 --> 00:39:57,028 Governor Siegelman. 911 00:39:57,062 --> 00:39:58,730 However, there was a catch. 912 00:39:58,764 --> 00:40:01,533 He would not be sentenced until after testifying 913 00:40:01,567 --> 00:40:02,768 in the Siegelman trial, 914 00:40:02,801 --> 00:40:05,437 obviously ensuring a convincing testimony. 915 00:40:05,471 --> 00:40:06,905 - Nick and I became very good friends 916 00:40:06,938 --> 00:40:10,442 and he confided in me about his treatment by the FBI 917 00:40:10,476 --> 00:40:11,710 and by the Justice Department. 918 00:40:11,743 --> 00:40:16,615 Nick was interviewed dozens and dozens of times 919 00:40:16,648 --> 00:40:18,717 by the Justice Department and the FBI 920 00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:22,554 about what he might know related to Siegelman 921 00:40:22,588 --> 00:40:25,156 and what he might know related to other matters. 922 00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:27,693 The two people on the frontline for the government 923 00:40:27,726 --> 00:40:30,696 were Steve Faega and Louis Franklin. 924 00:40:30,729 --> 00:40:34,933 He confided in me that they had, in essence, coached him 925 00:40:34,966 --> 00:40:38,504 and so this process began as trying to help him 926 00:40:38,537 --> 00:40:41,907 become more consistent in giving his answers. 927 00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:45,210 - As they were warming up for trial, Nick would call me. 928 00:40:45,243 --> 00:40:46,578 He would just be distraught, 929 00:40:46,612 --> 00:40:48,847 I mean just emotionally a wreck. 930 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,650 They wanted to press him into saying something 931 00:40:51,683 --> 00:40:53,852 that he couldn't say 932 00:40:53,885 --> 00:40:55,487 and I would just encourage him. 933 00:40:55,521 --> 00:40:58,089 I'd say come on, Nick, stand up and tell the truth 934 00:40:58,123 --> 00:40:59,925 and don't let these prosecutors 935 00:40:59,958 --> 00:41:01,993 make you tell anything otherwise 936 00:41:02,027 --> 00:41:04,162 and if you have to go to prison, you have to go to prison, 937 00:41:04,195 --> 00:41:05,330 you did wrong. 938 00:41:05,363 --> 00:41:09,501 - Louis Franklin, one of the prosecutors, US attorney, 939 00:41:09,535 --> 00:41:14,172 got so upset with Nick that they almost came to blows. 940 00:41:14,205 --> 00:41:17,576 Nick was afraid he was gonna have to defend himself. 941 00:41:17,609 --> 00:41:19,645 I think most people think Faega is tough, 942 00:41:19,678 --> 00:41:22,614 but he's sort of a pro's pro 943 00:41:22,648 --> 00:41:24,683 and I think the impression of Franklin 944 00:41:24,716 --> 00:41:26,284 is he's sort of a jerk's jerk. 945 00:41:26,317 --> 00:41:29,054 He's sort of a self-righteous. 946 00:41:29,087 --> 00:41:31,857 He prosecutes with a chip on his shoulder. 947 00:41:31,890 --> 00:41:35,794 After Louis Franklin and Nick got to a point where 948 00:41:35,827 --> 00:41:37,696 they could not communicate, 949 00:41:37,729 --> 00:41:40,599 Steve Faega became the point person 950 00:41:40,632 --> 00:41:43,535 on getting Nick ready for the case. 951 00:41:43,569 --> 00:41:46,705 Faega would point out inconsistencies with him 952 00:41:46,738 --> 00:41:50,108 and so Faega helped him edit his testimony 953 00:41:50,141 --> 00:41:51,710 so that it would be consistent. 954 00:41:51,743 --> 00:41:53,078 I think most people would say 955 00:41:53,111 --> 00:41:54,646 he was giving him the answers. 956 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,717 - There was a point where they threatened him 957 00:41:58,750 --> 00:42:02,020 with bringing family members into this investigation 958 00:42:02,053 --> 00:42:05,056 and that was really when Nick broke. 959 00:42:05,957 --> 00:42:09,027 (gloomy piano music) 960 00:42:11,296 --> 00:42:13,732 - He was trying to protect his family. 961 00:42:13,765 --> 00:42:16,868 He was trying to protect his own self 962 00:42:16,902 --> 00:42:19,638 and he was also trying to get a reduced sentence. 963 00:42:19,671 --> 00:42:21,773 - The day the trial started, 964 00:42:21,807 --> 00:42:25,043 he said "Amy, I've had to change sides." 965 00:42:25,076 --> 00:42:26,645 He said "Well, I don't have a choice. 966 00:42:26,678 --> 00:42:28,647 "I really don't have a choice." 967 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,749 And he said "I just hate what's getting ready 968 00:42:30,782 --> 00:42:31,717 "to happen to Don. 969 00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:34,085 "I just hate it, he doesn't deserve this. 970 00:42:34,119 --> 00:42:35,286 "I've got to do this perfect. 971 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,823 "I've gotta be excellent on the stand. 972 00:42:37,856 --> 00:42:40,692 "How well I do is gonna determine 973 00:42:40,726 --> 00:42:42,794 "how much time I spend in prison 974 00:42:42,828 --> 00:42:45,764 "and I've got to do the best that I can." 975 00:42:45,797 --> 00:42:46,598 - [Interviewer] He did say that? 976 00:42:46,632 --> 00:42:49,200 - Oh yeah, absolutely he said that 977 00:42:49,234 --> 00:42:52,704 and I said "Well, Nick, what are you gonna do 978 00:42:52,738 --> 00:42:55,641 "when the lawyers, if they ask you that on the stand?" 979 00:42:55,674 --> 00:42:57,108 And his whole demeanor changed. 980 00:42:57,142 --> 00:42:59,811 I mean immediately he just looked off 981 00:42:59,845 --> 00:43:02,948 and he became very stoic and robotic. 982 00:43:04,115 --> 00:43:06,284 "It was a pay for play, it was a pay for play. 983 00:43:06,317 --> 00:43:07,919 "Money exchanged for favors. 984 00:43:07,953 --> 00:43:09,220 "That's all it was." 985 00:43:09,254 --> 00:43:11,156 I let him finish and then all the sudden 986 00:43:11,189 --> 00:43:14,359 he just looked back at me like. 987 00:43:14,392 --> 00:43:17,996 (solemn piano music) 988 00:43:18,029 --> 00:43:19,698 (gentle music) 989 00:43:19,731 --> 00:43:21,767 (clicking) 990 00:43:27,072 --> 00:43:29,841 (solemn music) 991 00:43:35,947 --> 00:43:38,917 - I've worked in every state in the Union 992 00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:40,852 in the almost 40 years I've done this. 993 00:43:40,886 --> 00:43:44,022 Alabama surpasses any other state 994 00:43:44,055 --> 00:43:47,125 in terms of I think what a lot of people would call 995 00:43:47,158 --> 00:43:49,194 the dirtiness of its politics. 996 00:43:49,227 --> 00:43:54,065 - Alabama has a famous tradition going back decades 997 00:43:54,099 --> 00:43:57,202 of being the jurisdiction where you could indict 998 00:43:57,235 --> 00:44:00,238 and convict a ham sandwich if you wanted to. 999 00:44:00,271 --> 00:44:01,907 - Well, I think they anticipated 1000 00:44:01,940 --> 00:44:04,075 that there would be a certain amount of backlash 1001 00:44:04,109 --> 00:44:06,978 from the community as a result of the acquittals. 1002 00:44:07,012 --> 00:44:09,047 The media had been extraordinarily negative 1003 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,749 at least as to Richard. 1004 00:44:10,782 --> 00:44:14,019 By putting them together you have the classic situation 1005 00:44:14,052 --> 00:44:17,388 where jurors believed something must be wrong, 1006 00:44:17,422 --> 00:44:19,157 they must be guilty of something 1007 00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:21,259 because the government keeps indicting them. 1008 00:44:21,292 --> 00:44:23,461 You know, this is a wholly separate prosecution, 1009 00:44:23,494 --> 00:44:25,430 but there's no question that it was a second bite 1010 00:44:25,463 --> 00:44:27,365 at the apple for the Department of Justice. 1011 00:44:27,398 --> 00:44:30,135 - They wanted maximum political damage done 1012 00:44:30,168 --> 00:44:31,402 to Don Siegelman and the charges 1013 00:44:31,436 --> 00:44:32,971 that were brought against him, 1014 00:44:33,004 --> 00:44:35,040 charged him for everything you can imagine 1015 00:44:35,073 --> 00:44:37,408 that a politician could be charged for, 1016 00:44:37,442 --> 00:44:40,378 bribery, improper contracts, 1017 00:44:40,411 --> 00:44:44,415 awarding things on the basis of financial interest, 1018 00:44:44,449 --> 00:44:46,718 every possible ethics violation. 1019 00:44:46,752 --> 00:44:50,021 - We learned that they were basically reopening this case. 1020 00:44:50,055 --> 00:44:52,190 Once it was coming back to life, 1021 00:44:52,223 --> 00:44:54,025 we requested a meeting 1022 00:44:55,861 --> 00:44:58,196 and I asked them if they had made a charging decision. 1023 00:44:58,229 --> 00:44:59,965 They told me no. 1024 00:44:59,998 --> 00:45:02,133 We made certain disclosures to them 1025 00:45:02,167 --> 00:45:04,002 and had an open discussion with them. 1026 00:45:04,035 --> 00:45:07,105 It didn't result in any sort of deal being made between us, 1027 00:45:07,138 --> 00:45:10,075 but I subsequently found out that on that day 1028 00:45:10,108 --> 00:45:11,042 when I went to that meeting, 1029 00:45:11,076 --> 00:45:13,078 they had already indicted Richard Scrushy. 1030 00:45:13,111 --> 00:45:16,114 So clearly they had made a charging decision. 1031 00:45:16,147 --> 00:45:18,516 We move to dismiss based on the government's 1032 00:45:18,549 --> 00:45:22,320 misrepresentation to me and it was denied by the court. 1033 00:45:22,353 --> 00:45:23,154 - [Interviewer] They lied? 1034 00:45:23,188 --> 00:45:25,123 - Yes, they lied to me 1035 00:45:25,156 --> 00:45:28,059 and they admitted during the hearing that they lied to me. 1036 00:45:28,093 --> 00:45:30,829 That was the most significant lie 1037 00:45:30,862 --> 00:45:35,300 that has ever been told to me by a federal prosecutor. 1038 00:45:35,333 --> 00:45:38,303 (gentle music) 1039 00:45:38,336 --> 00:45:40,772 (clicking) 1040 00:45:44,542 --> 00:45:47,145 (solemn music) 1041 00:45:53,051 --> 00:45:54,886 - [Narrator] Prosecutors filed multiple charges 1042 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,188 against former Governor Siegelman, Richard Scrushy, 1043 00:45:57,222 --> 00:45:59,825 Siegelman's former chief of staff Paul Hamrick, 1044 00:45:59,858 --> 00:46:03,494 and former Alabama transportation secretary Mack Roberts. 1045 00:46:03,528 --> 00:46:07,565 The trial was held in the Montgomery Federal Courthouse. 1046 00:46:07,598 --> 00:46:10,068 - [Woman] And with just three days before the primary, 1047 00:46:10,101 --> 00:46:13,104 gubernatorial candidate and defendant Don Siegelman 1048 00:46:13,138 --> 00:46:15,506 boarded his tour bus after court today, 1049 00:46:15,540 --> 00:46:18,143 heading for the campaign trail. 1050 00:46:18,176 --> 00:46:20,345 - I imagine the governor will let us the begin 1051 00:46:20,378 --> 00:46:22,480 the day after the primary. 1052 00:46:22,513 --> 00:46:24,449 - [Man] You think that's calculated? 1053 00:46:24,482 --> 00:46:26,217 - I do think it's calculated. 1054 00:46:26,251 --> 00:46:30,989 - Pleading guilty was not even discussed, not an option. 1055 00:46:31,022 --> 00:46:34,025 Usually when somebody's kinda thinking 1056 00:46:34,059 --> 00:46:36,127 well maybe this sounds kinda bad or something, 1057 00:46:36,161 --> 00:46:39,831 they tell their lawyer see what you can work out. 1058 00:46:39,865 --> 00:46:41,099 Never happened. 1059 00:46:41,132 --> 00:46:43,101 - There would have been no conviction 1060 00:46:43,134 --> 00:46:45,503 if the government could not prove 1061 00:46:45,536 --> 00:46:48,840 that there was an agreement or a quid pro quo, 1062 00:46:48,874 --> 00:46:50,008 something for something. 1063 00:46:50,041 --> 00:46:52,043 That's how bribery is proven. 1064 00:46:52,077 --> 00:46:54,445 So they put Nick Bailey on the witness stand 1065 00:46:54,479 --> 00:46:58,917 for the government and they grill him for four days 1066 00:46:58,950 --> 00:47:01,086 and over and over and over again 1067 00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:05,023 they have Nick Bailey say that he and Don Siegelman 1068 00:47:05,056 --> 00:47:08,126 had an agreement with Richard Scrushy 1069 00:47:10,028 --> 00:47:12,397 that they would appoint Scrushy to the CON Board 1070 00:47:12,430 --> 00:47:14,332 in exchange for contribution. 1071 00:47:14,365 --> 00:47:17,535 Over and over again, did you have an agreement, yes, 1072 00:47:17,568 --> 00:47:19,070 did you have an agreement, yes, 1073 00:47:19,104 --> 00:47:21,106 and they had Bailey repeat this over and over again 1074 00:47:21,139 --> 00:47:23,141 trying to beat it into the jury's head 1075 00:47:23,174 --> 00:47:25,443 that there was in fact an agreement, 1076 00:47:25,476 --> 00:47:27,445 thus a bribery charge. 1077 00:47:27,478 --> 00:47:29,580 - And Nick Bailey accused me 1078 00:47:29,614 --> 00:47:31,249 of handing the governor a check. 1079 00:47:31,282 --> 00:47:34,219 He said that Richard came in, 1080 00:47:34,252 --> 00:47:35,921 he gave a check to the governor, 1081 00:47:35,954 --> 00:47:37,522 then he said "I saw the check" 1082 00:47:37,555 --> 00:47:39,524 and he said it had Richard had signed it 1083 00:47:39,557 --> 00:47:41,559 and it was a HealthSouth check. 1084 00:47:41,592 --> 00:47:43,895 Well, that was not true. 1085 00:47:43,929 --> 00:47:45,630 - [Narrator] Bailey also testified that he personally 1086 00:47:45,663 --> 00:47:48,233 saw the check was dated July 19th, 1087 00:47:48,266 --> 00:47:51,069 that it was drawn off of a HealthSouth bank account 1088 00:47:51,102 --> 00:47:53,338 and that it had Richard Scrushy's signature on it. 1089 00:47:53,371 --> 00:47:56,074 However, there was a big problem with his testimony. 1090 00:47:56,107 --> 00:47:59,577 Records showed that the meeting took place on June 29th, 1091 00:47:59,610 --> 00:48:02,147 almost three weeks before the check was cut. 1092 00:48:02,180 --> 00:48:03,982 So there would be no possible way 1093 00:48:04,015 --> 00:48:05,316 that he was telling the truth. 1094 00:48:05,350 --> 00:48:07,085 There was also another big problem. 1095 00:48:07,118 --> 00:48:09,087 Prosecutors never produced a check 1096 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,256 to corroborate Bailey's accusation. 1097 00:48:11,289 --> 00:48:14,125 In fact, the check prosecutors entered as evidence 1098 00:48:14,159 --> 00:48:16,261 came from an entirely different company, 1099 00:48:16,294 --> 00:48:19,197 Integrated Health Services from Baltimore, Maryland. 1100 00:48:19,230 --> 00:48:21,599 This contradicted Bailey's testimony 1101 00:48:21,632 --> 00:48:24,102 that it was from HealthSouth and signed by Scrushy. 1102 00:48:24,135 --> 00:48:25,503 - Come to find out there was a company 1103 00:48:25,536 --> 00:48:28,206 called Integrated Health Services that did give a check, 1104 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,409 but they didn't give him a check till like July the 19th. 1105 00:48:31,442 --> 00:48:33,011 - It's not rocket science, man. 1106 00:48:33,044 --> 00:48:35,146 If the meeting occurred on this day 1107 00:48:35,180 --> 00:48:37,949 and the check was cut weeks later, 1108 00:48:37,983 --> 00:48:41,019 how could he have taken that check to that meeting? 1109 00:48:41,052 --> 00:48:42,153 It didn't exist. 1110 00:48:42,187 --> 00:48:45,290 - [Narrator] The other 250,000 that prosecutors said 1111 00:48:45,323 --> 00:48:48,159 was part of the bribe was a properly recorded donation 1112 00:48:48,193 --> 00:48:51,229 from HealthSouth to the Education Referendum. 1113 00:48:51,262 --> 00:48:54,032 However, this transaction occurred one year later 1114 00:48:54,065 --> 00:48:56,534 as he was leaving the CON Board. 1115 00:48:56,567 --> 00:48:59,604 Hardly a time to pay off a bribe. 1116 00:48:59,637 --> 00:49:02,040 - There was no direct evidence 1117 00:49:02,073 --> 00:49:06,244 that Don Siegelman said give me a $500,000 contribution 1118 00:49:07,745 --> 00:49:11,649 for the lottery campaign and I will appoint you 1119 00:49:12,783 --> 00:49:16,287 to a seat on the health siding board. 1120 00:49:16,321 --> 00:49:20,325 There was no explicit evidence or testimony 1121 00:49:20,358 --> 00:49:21,692 with regard to that. 1122 00:49:21,726 --> 00:49:25,596 It was only implied and under the Mccormick rule 1123 00:49:25,630 --> 00:49:30,235 that is not sufficient to have a successful prosecution. 1124 00:49:30,268 --> 00:49:32,437 - [Narrator] In fact, it was impossible for Siegelman 1125 00:49:32,470 --> 00:49:34,605 to have personally benefited from the arrangement 1126 00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:36,474 because of two important reasons. 1127 00:49:36,507 --> 00:49:39,644 One, he never received any money or personal gain. 1128 00:49:39,677 --> 00:49:41,212 He simply raised funds 1129 00:49:41,246 --> 00:49:43,281 that went to non-profit organizations. 1130 00:49:43,314 --> 00:49:46,217 Lastly, Siegelman was not a guarantor on the debt 1131 00:49:46,251 --> 00:49:49,154 until after the referendum had been defeated. 1132 00:49:49,187 --> 00:49:52,357 - I don't know of any other politician 1133 00:49:53,358 --> 00:49:56,694 who was accused of conspiracy charges 1134 00:49:56,727 --> 00:49:59,497 because he solicited and received 1135 00:50:00,631 --> 00:50:01,832 a political contribution. 1136 00:50:01,866 --> 00:50:06,404 I know of other Americans who made political contributions 1137 00:50:08,306 --> 00:50:11,209 to presidential campaigns, for example, 1138 00:50:11,242 --> 00:50:14,412 and who ended up, rather than being in jail, 1139 00:50:14,445 --> 00:50:16,281 being ambassadors. 1140 00:50:16,314 --> 00:50:17,648 - When we talk about bad faith, 1141 00:50:17,682 --> 00:50:20,285 you talk about bad faith charging, 1142 00:50:20,318 --> 00:50:25,056 this was as bad a faith example of misprosecution 1143 00:50:25,090 --> 00:50:28,826 as any that I have seen in my years of study 1144 00:50:28,859 --> 00:50:31,562 of misconduct by prosecutors. 1145 00:50:31,596 --> 00:50:34,332 - And just so you know how ludicrous this is, 1146 00:50:34,365 --> 00:50:37,402 this theory of bribery that I'm describing 1147 00:50:37,435 --> 00:50:40,738 has never been used in this country, 1148 00:50:40,771 --> 00:50:43,108 in any federal court in this country. 1149 00:50:43,141 --> 00:50:45,310 Note, the Justice Department had never pursued 1150 00:50:45,343 --> 00:50:46,611 that theory of bribery. 1151 00:50:46,644 --> 00:50:48,446 - [Narrator] Scrushy had served on the CON Board 1152 00:50:48,479 --> 00:50:50,115 for the previous 12 years 1153 00:50:50,148 --> 00:50:52,717 under three earlier governors from both parties. 1154 00:50:52,750 --> 00:50:54,785 During that time, he and other board members 1155 00:50:54,819 --> 00:50:57,388 had donated directly to those governors' campaign funds, 1156 00:50:57,422 --> 00:51:00,425 the same thing that happens thousands of times every year 1157 00:51:00,458 --> 00:51:02,627 with virtually all elected officials. 1158 00:51:02,660 --> 00:51:04,329 In this case, however, 1159 00:51:04,362 --> 00:51:07,398 the donation did not even come from Scrushy or HealthSouth 1160 00:51:07,432 --> 00:51:10,301 and it went to a separate 501c3 fund 1161 00:51:10,335 --> 00:51:12,403 that did not personally benefit Governor Siegelman. 1162 00:51:12,437 --> 00:51:15,140 There are also logical reasons Richard Scrushy 1163 00:51:15,173 --> 00:51:17,675 didn't bribe his way on to the CON Board. 1164 00:51:17,708 --> 00:51:21,646 - As chairman of the transition team for Governor Siegelman, 1165 00:51:21,679 --> 00:51:25,683 I tried to find the best people in the state of Alabama 1166 00:51:25,716 --> 00:51:29,387 that could serve him as Governor of Alabama. 1167 00:51:30,855 --> 00:51:33,358 I went to see Richard Scrushy. 1168 00:51:34,525 --> 00:51:37,695 He and I sat down and had breakfast together. 1169 00:51:37,728 --> 00:51:41,366 I said "Richard, you served three times. 1170 00:51:41,399 --> 00:51:44,569 "You know the CON Board better than anybody else 1171 00:51:44,602 --> 00:51:45,503 "I can name 1172 00:51:46,871 --> 00:51:50,775 "and I want you to consider serving another term 1173 00:51:53,344 --> 00:51:54,679 "on the CON Board." 1174 00:51:55,580 --> 00:51:58,249 What did Richard Scrushy say? 1175 00:51:58,283 --> 00:52:02,387 "No, I will not serve another term on that board. 1176 00:52:04,389 --> 00:52:07,392 "I've served three different governors in the past. 1177 00:52:07,425 --> 00:52:09,194 "I do not want to do it." 1178 00:52:09,227 --> 00:52:11,529 - I was asked by Elmer Harris, 1179 00:52:12,663 --> 00:52:15,433 who was chief of his transition team, 1180 00:52:15,466 --> 00:52:16,701 and he asked me to serve 1181 00:52:16,734 --> 00:52:18,536 and I said "No, Elmer, I'm not gonna serve." 1182 00:52:18,569 --> 00:52:20,338 It takes an entire day every month. 1183 00:52:20,371 --> 00:52:21,672 I'm running a Fortune 500 company, 1184 00:52:21,706 --> 00:52:23,408 a New York Stock Exchange Company, 1185 00:52:23,441 --> 00:52:26,411 it takes a day to prepare, it takes a day of your time, 1186 00:52:26,444 --> 00:52:28,813 so that's two days a month, we only have 20 working days, 1187 00:52:28,846 --> 00:52:29,714 I just can't do it. 1188 00:52:29,747 --> 00:52:31,649 - I said "Now, Richard, 1189 00:52:33,851 --> 00:52:38,523 "what I want you to do if you're not gonna tell me is 1190 00:52:38,556 --> 00:52:42,360 "I want you to tell me that you will seriously reconsider." 1191 00:52:42,393 --> 00:52:44,762 - And he said "You're the most qualified person we have. 1192 00:52:44,795 --> 00:52:46,464 "You run the largest healthcare company 1193 00:52:46,497 --> 00:52:47,432 "in the state of Alabama. 1194 00:52:47,465 --> 00:52:48,733 "We want you to serve." 1195 00:52:48,766 --> 00:52:50,435 I said I'd do one year. 1196 00:52:50,468 --> 00:52:53,938 Out of a three-year term, I'll serve one year and that's it. 1197 00:52:53,971 --> 00:52:56,774 (gentle music) 1198 00:52:56,807 --> 00:52:59,277 (clicking) 1199 00:53:04,449 --> 00:53:06,851 (gloomy music) 1200 00:53:10,555 --> 00:53:12,990 - [Narrator] The judge on the case was Mark Everett Fuller 1201 00:53:13,023 --> 00:53:15,526 who had been appointed by the Bush Administration 1202 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:16,994 four years earlier. 1203 00:53:17,027 --> 00:53:19,697 - We basically got nothing from Judge Fuller. 1204 00:53:19,730 --> 00:53:21,532 The best comparison I could make 1205 00:53:21,566 --> 00:53:24,669 would be if you think about the movie Gladiator 1206 00:53:24,702 --> 00:53:28,273 where people are fighting on numerous fronts 1207 00:53:28,306 --> 00:53:30,408 with numerous people against them. 1208 00:53:30,441 --> 00:53:32,277 That's how the trial felt. 1209 00:53:32,310 --> 00:53:34,379 Not only am I fighting against the government, 1210 00:53:34,412 --> 00:53:35,480 I'm fighting against the evidence 1211 00:53:35,513 --> 00:53:37,282 submitted by the government, 1212 00:53:37,315 --> 00:53:39,484 but I was also fighting with the court 1213 00:53:39,517 --> 00:53:41,486 and it was a losing battle 1214 00:53:41,519 --> 00:53:43,954 in that motions that we would file 1215 00:53:43,988 --> 00:53:48,426 that are normally granted without any serious consideration 1216 00:53:48,459 --> 00:53:50,361 were absolutely denied. 1217 00:53:50,395 --> 00:53:51,996 Trials are supposed to be fair 1218 00:53:52,029 --> 00:53:53,831 and not inherently prejudicial. 1219 00:53:53,864 --> 00:53:56,367 - After the jury was sent out to deliberate 1220 00:53:56,401 --> 00:53:58,403 and they came back with a note, 1221 00:53:58,436 --> 00:54:01,872 they asked the judge can a campaign contribution 1222 00:54:01,906 --> 00:54:04,375 be a thing of value under that statute 1223 00:54:04,409 --> 00:54:06,911 or do they have to find that Don Siegelman 1224 00:54:06,944 --> 00:54:08,546 benefited personally? 1225 00:54:08,579 --> 00:54:10,581 Faega jumps up and says 1226 00:54:10,615 --> 00:54:14,819 "The campaign contribution can be a thing of value 1227 00:54:14,852 --> 00:54:17,788 "and it doesn't matter whether you got a personal benefit." 1228 00:54:17,822 --> 00:54:20,991 Another argument he makes is that it can be a thing of value 1229 00:54:21,025 --> 00:54:23,461 if he gets it directly or indirectly 1230 00:54:23,494 --> 00:54:26,030 through some other foundation. 1231 00:54:26,063 --> 00:54:28,466 What's even more remarkable 1232 00:54:28,499 --> 00:54:31,602 that Judge Fuller says a thing of value can be 1233 00:54:31,636 --> 00:54:35,005 something that improves someone's political capital 1234 00:54:35,039 --> 00:54:37,074 on a platform on which he ran. 1235 00:54:37,107 --> 00:54:39,844 So Don Siegelman ran the platform of a lottery 1236 00:54:39,877 --> 00:54:42,647 for an education referendum. 1237 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:43,481 - [Interviewer] Doesn't make any sense. 1238 00:54:43,514 --> 00:54:44,882 - It makes no sense. 1239 00:54:44,915 --> 00:54:46,617 It's all a bunch of crap. 1240 00:54:46,651 --> 00:54:50,087 - Every person that is probably sitting over there 1241 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,591 on any committee or any board or any commission 1242 00:54:53,624 --> 00:54:55,626 or a cabinet members I'm sure have contributed 1243 00:54:55,660 --> 00:54:58,596 to the current governor or any governor. 1244 00:54:58,629 --> 00:55:01,799 - It was obvious to us that Don and Richard had won. 1245 00:55:01,832 --> 00:55:04,469 I mean, they didn't even put on a defense. 1246 00:55:04,502 --> 00:55:06,003 They hit it out of the ball park. 1247 00:55:06,036 --> 00:55:09,006 I mean there was no way that 1248 00:55:09,039 --> 00:55:12,610 the prosecution proved their case and we all knew it. 1249 00:55:12,643 --> 00:55:16,514 - And then they went out and ultimately we got the verdict. 1250 00:55:16,547 --> 00:55:19,316 (gloomy music) 1251 00:55:28,726 --> 00:55:33,698 - Eventually the jury comes back and throws out 25 counts 1252 00:55:33,731 --> 00:55:38,503 of the 32 counts that were against Don Siegelman 1253 00:55:38,536 --> 00:55:40,371 and the sentence that he imposed 1254 00:55:40,405 --> 00:55:42,640 was an exceedingly harsh sentence, 1255 00:55:42,673 --> 00:55:46,544 seven years and four months of imprisonment. 1256 00:55:46,577 --> 00:55:50,615 That's a long sentence for a situation where 1257 00:55:50,648 --> 00:55:53,618 Don Siegelman did not personally benefit. 1258 00:55:53,651 --> 00:55:55,152 - [Narrator] The jury acquitted Siegelman's 1259 00:55:55,185 --> 00:55:56,987 former chief of staff Paul Hamrick 1260 00:55:57,021 --> 00:56:00,024 and former state transportation secretary Mack Roberts 1261 00:56:00,057 --> 00:56:01,726 of all charges. 1262 00:56:01,759 --> 00:56:03,661 In June of the next year at the sentencing hearing, 1263 00:56:03,694 --> 00:56:06,130 Judge Fuller, upon handing down their sentences, 1264 00:56:06,163 --> 00:56:08,566 ordered both Richard Scrushy and Don Siegelman 1265 00:56:08,599 --> 00:56:10,134 to be taken away immediately 1266 00:56:10,167 --> 00:56:12,637 with no time to say goodbye to their families 1267 00:56:12,670 --> 00:56:15,072 or get their affairs in order. 1268 00:56:15,105 --> 00:56:18,509 - He had him bound and shackled 1269 00:56:18,543 --> 00:56:21,078 and carted off to prison on the spot, 1270 00:56:21,111 --> 00:56:24,582 whereas almost any common criminal in federal court 1271 00:56:24,615 --> 00:56:27,585 would be allowed to report at a certain date. 1272 00:56:27,618 --> 00:56:29,820 I think that showed where this guy was coming from. 1273 00:56:29,854 --> 00:56:33,758 - They shackled this man and drug him out of the courthouse. 1274 00:56:33,791 --> 00:56:36,661 I mean it was like something you would think 1275 00:56:36,694 --> 00:56:38,596 took place in a third world country. 1276 00:56:38,629 --> 00:56:41,866 Sometimes I wonder if I'm even close to that. 1277 00:56:41,899 --> 00:56:44,669 - Immediately our lives have changed. 1278 00:56:44,702 --> 00:56:45,836 I mean when he was sentenced, 1279 00:56:45,870 --> 00:56:48,038 I was in such utter shock I couldn't, 1280 00:56:48,072 --> 00:56:49,607 I didn't feel like I could breathe. 1281 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,208 Two weeks it took me to recuperate 1282 00:56:51,241 --> 00:56:53,744 and kind of gain my composure again. 1283 00:56:53,778 --> 00:56:56,080 - I have a place down at Seagrove Beach, Florida 1284 00:56:56,113 --> 00:56:57,915 right next to Rosemary Beach. 1285 00:56:57,948 --> 00:57:02,687 Karl Rove, I saw him pedaling around on a bicycle, 1286 00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:06,190 poor guy looked like Elmer Fudd or something, you know. 1287 00:57:06,223 --> 00:57:09,894 I then talked to a US attorney, Steve Faega, 1288 00:57:11,529 --> 00:57:15,199 who I saw from a distance and I thought it was him 1289 00:57:15,232 --> 00:57:19,136 going into Karl Rove's house at Rosemary Beach 1290 00:57:19,169 --> 00:57:21,138 and they had a party there 1291 00:57:21,171 --> 00:57:22,840 and it was after the Siegelman trial 1292 00:57:22,873 --> 00:57:25,175 and I don't know if the prosecutors 1293 00:57:25,209 --> 00:57:27,878 should be attending a party with Karl Rove. 1294 00:57:27,912 --> 00:57:29,680 - I don't think he ever thought for a moment 1295 00:57:29,714 --> 00:57:31,816 they actually were so malicious 1296 00:57:31,849 --> 00:57:36,086 as to continue to persecute and prosecute him 1297 00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:37,822 until they got a conviction 1298 00:57:37,855 --> 00:57:41,626 and I think that's what shocked him more than anything. 1299 00:57:41,659 --> 00:57:42,827 - Thank you. 1300 00:57:42,860 --> 00:57:45,763 God bless you and God bless the great state of Alabama. 1301 00:57:45,796 --> 00:57:48,032 (applause) 1302 00:57:54,739 --> 00:57:56,841 (gentle music) 1303 00:57:56,874 --> 00:57:59,109 (clicking) 1304 00:58:03,614 --> 00:58:05,983 (solemn music) 1305 00:58:07,885 --> 00:58:09,820 - [Narrator] Since the Siegelman Scrushy conviction, 1306 00:58:09,854 --> 00:58:12,590 a virtual landslide of new information has come out 1307 00:58:12,623 --> 00:58:14,058 that points toward their innocence. 1308 00:58:14,091 --> 00:58:15,860 Even more disturbing than the depth 1309 00:58:15,893 --> 00:58:17,094 of the misconduct on the case 1310 00:58:17,127 --> 00:58:18,896 is the extensive amount of time and effort 1311 00:58:18,929 --> 00:58:20,731 that was spent to cover it all up. 1312 00:58:20,765 --> 00:58:23,267 - It just didn't feel like there was a level playing field. 1313 00:58:23,300 --> 00:58:25,936 That's the best way I knew to put it. 1314 00:58:25,970 --> 00:58:28,673 But then there was the jury and you thought 1315 00:58:28,706 --> 00:58:31,576 you know, this doesn't feel like a level playing field, 1316 00:58:31,609 --> 00:58:34,545 but they can't get to the jury. 1317 00:58:34,579 --> 00:58:35,312 But they did. 1318 00:58:35,345 --> 00:58:38,583 (gloomy music) 1319 00:58:38,616 --> 00:58:41,085 - I can't remember exactly how long after the trial it was, 1320 00:58:41,118 --> 00:58:44,088 but I received a letter, an anonymous letter 1321 00:58:44,121 --> 00:58:47,858 in the mail at my office and when I opened it 1322 00:58:49,226 --> 00:58:53,631 it clearly was an email exchange between jurors. 1323 00:58:53,664 --> 00:58:54,899 Unmistakable. 1324 00:58:54,932 --> 00:58:57,602 - Some information came to light that jurors 1325 00:58:57,635 --> 00:59:00,738 were possibly communicating with each other during the trial 1326 00:59:00,771 --> 00:59:02,607 where they spoke specifically 1327 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:03,841 about how to convict Governor Siegelman 1328 00:59:03,874 --> 00:59:06,911 and some of their personal feelings about Governor Siegelman 1329 00:59:06,944 --> 00:59:08,212 and they were not positive. 1330 00:59:08,245 --> 00:59:09,379 - [Narrator] The letter, received by all defense attorneys, 1331 00:59:09,413 --> 00:59:12,750 contained printed emails between jurors from the case. 1332 00:59:12,783 --> 00:59:15,786 Two of those emails were dated before deliberations began 1333 00:59:15,820 --> 00:59:17,588 and revealed that at least one juror 1334 00:59:17,622 --> 00:59:19,857 had actively plotted to convince other jurors 1335 00:59:19,890 --> 00:59:22,993 to vote guilty even before all the evidence had been heard. 1336 00:59:23,027 --> 00:59:25,863 - Jurors nationwide, state, federal court, 1337 00:59:25,896 --> 00:59:29,834 are always instructed that their discussions about the case 1338 00:59:29,867 --> 00:59:31,368 have to occur in the jury room 1339 00:59:31,401 --> 00:59:33,070 where all the jurors are present. 1340 00:59:33,103 --> 00:59:37,307 So I mean basically the way that it appeared in these emails 1341 00:59:37,341 --> 00:59:40,711 was that a group of jurors were getting together 1342 00:59:40,745 --> 00:59:43,848 to lobby the other jurors to convict 1343 00:59:43,881 --> 00:59:45,315 and that's just it's improper. 1344 00:59:45,349 --> 00:59:46,884 - [Narrator] The emails were between jury foreman 1345 00:59:46,917 --> 00:59:49,754 Sam Hendrix and juror Katie Langer, 1346 00:59:49,787 --> 00:59:51,889 also known as Flipper by the other jurors 1347 00:59:51,922 --> 00:59:54,224 because she performed gymnastics in the jury room. 1348 00:59:54,258 --> 00:59:56,894 They revealed that Langer held a strong predisposition 1349 00:59:56,927 --> 00:59:57,995 against the defendants 1350 00:59:58,028 --> 00:59:59,897 whom she pejoratively referred to 1351 00:59:59,930 --> 01:00:01,766 as the governor and the pastor. 1352 01:00:01,799 --> 01:00:03,968 Scrushy occasionally preached at a local church. 1353 01:00:04,001 --> 01:00:06,403 In one message dated before deliberations, 1354 01:00:06,436 --> 01:00:09,674 Langer continued to pressure juror 30 to convict 1355 01:00:09,707 --> 01:00:11,976 before all the evidence and arguments had been heard. 1356 01:00:12,009 --> 01:00:13,811 It also revealed that she and Hendrix 1357 01:00:13,844 --> 01:00:16,113 had accessed outside information. 1358 01:00:16,146 --> 01:00:18,115 With an obvious lack of impartiality, 1359 01:00:18,148 --> 01:00:21,118 Langer said that all public officials are scum 1360 01:00:21,151 --> 01:00:23,854 and that both defendants were up shit creek. 1361 01:00:23,888 --> 01:00:25,355 Later, she even referred to Siegelman's 1362 01:00:25,389 --> 01:00:26,957 and Scrushy's previous acquittals, 1363 01:00:26,991 --> 01:00:29,927 stating "They missed before, but we won't" 1364 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,730 as though her influence in this trial could make up 1365 01:00:32,763 --> 01:00:35,165 for how she thought those other trials should have ended. 1366 01:00:35,199 --> 01:00:37,434 Both Hendrix and Langer have since denied 1367 01:00:37,467 --> 01:00:39,804 sending or receiving those emails. 1368 01:00:39,837 --> 01:00:41,438 When the defense brought the matter to the court, 1369 01:00:41,471 --> 01:00:43,941 Judge Fuller surprisingly ordered the defense 1370 01:00:43,974 --> 01:00:45,943 and the prosecution to drop the matter 1371 01:00:45,976 --> 01:00:48,378 and not investigate their authenticity. 1372 01:00:48,412 --> 01:00:50,380 - It would have, almost without question, 1373 01:00:50,414 --> 01:00:52,016 caused a mistrial. 1374 01:00:52,049 --> 01:00:53,951 In other words, the original verdicts 1375 01:00:53,984 --> 01:00:54,919 would have been thrown out 1376 01:00:54,952 --> 01:00:56,253 and we would have been on for a new trial. 1377 01:00:56,286 --> 01:00:59,356 The jurors were emailing each other 1378 01:00:59,389 --> 01:01:02,893 and conducting basically strategy sessions. 1379 01:01:02,927 --> 01:01:06,430 That could have been easily disclosed 1380 01:01:06,463 --> 01:01:09,366 simply by going to the ISP providers with an order 1381 01:01:09,399 --> 01:01:11,969 and getting all of those emails and just seeing 1382 01:01:12,002 --> 01:01:15,272 are these emails that were revealed to us anonymously, 1383 01:01:15,305 --> 01:01:16,406 are they genuine. 1384 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:17,908 We were denied. 1385 01:01:19,076 --> 01:01:21,912 (gentle music) 1386 01:01:21,946 --> 01:01:24,014 (clicking) 1387 01:01:28,052 --> 01:01:30,821 (gloomy music) 1388 01:01:34,091 --> 01:01:35,192 - [Narrator] Several months later, 1389 01:01:35,225 --> 01:01:37,962 Jill Simpson, a local lawyer and republican activist 1390 01:01:37,995 --> 01:01:40,731 who had been working for years to dig up dirt on Siegelman, 1391 01:01:40,765 --> 01:01:41,799 had a change of heart. 1392 01:01:41,832 --> 01:01:44,268 She provided defense attorneys with an affidavit 1393 01:01:44,301 --> 01:01:46,003 describing how she witnessed 1394 01:01:46,036 --> 01:01:48,939 Alabama Republicans use the Justice Department 1395 01:01:48,973 --> 01:01:51,408 to target Siegelman for political prosecution. 1396 01:01:51,441 --> 01:01:53,210 Her story caught the eye of 60 Minutes 1397 01:01:53,243 --> 01:01:56,180 and was featured in their lead segment on the case. 1398 01:01:56,213 --> 01:01:59,083 - [Man] A Republican lawyer from Alabama, Jill Simpson, 1399 01:01:59,116 --> 01:02:02,319 has come forward to claim that the Siegelman prosecution 1400 01:02:02,352 --> 01:02:05,089 was part of a five-year secret campaign 1401 01:02:05,122 --> 01:02:06,791 to ruin the governor. 1402 01:02:06,824 --> 01:02:11,061 - Jill, because of the way she came forward 1403 01:02:11,095 --> 01:02:13,798 to report ethical violations 1404 01:02:13,831 --> 01:02:16,867 of the Justice Department of the United States, 1405 01:02:16,901 --> 01:02:21,105 of Karl Rove in instigating for political reasons 1406 01:02:21,138 --> 01:02:25,375 an improper, unfounded political prosecution 1407 01:02:25,409 --> 01:02:29,479 of Governor Siegelman by the Justice Department, 1408 01:02:29,513 --> 01:02:33,250 she had an ethical duty to report this and she did. 1409 01:02:33,283 --> 01:02:36,086 So her affidavit accurately reported 1410 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,957 a telephone conversation that Jill Simpson had 1411 01:02:39,990 --> 01:02:41,792 with Bill Canary, 1412 01:02:41,826 --> 01:02:44,962 the head of the Business Council of Alabama, 1413 01:02:44,995 --> 01:02:49,399 Rob Riley, the son of Governor Bob Riley of Alabama, 1414 01:02:49,433 --> 01:02:53,037 and in the conversation the subject was 1415 01:02:53,070 --> 01:02:56,040 how to prevent Governor Siegelman 1416 01:02:56,073 --> 01:02:58,108 from running again in 2006. 1417 01:03:00,444 --> 01:03:02,346 - Bill Canary assured her, 1418 01:03:02,379 --> 01:03:06,250 when she was working on the campaign against Siegelman, 1419 01:03:06,283 --> 01:03:08,052 "You don't have to worry about Siegelman. 1420 01:03:08,085 --> 01:03:09,253 "Don't worry about Siegelman. 1421 01:03:09,286 --> 01:03:12,022 "My girls are gonna take care of Siegelman" 1422 01:03:12,056 --> 01:03:14,458 and she said "What do you mean my girls?" 1423 01:03:14,491 --> 01:03:17,828 and he said "Well, my wife Leura Canary," 1424 01:03:17,862 --> 01:03:22,132 who's the US attorney in the Middle District of Alabama, 1425 01:03:22,166 --> 01:03:24,134 and Alice Martin who's the US attorney 1426 01:03:24,168 --> 01:03:26,103 in the Northern District of Alabama, 1427 01:03:26,136 --> 01:03:28,172 "They'll take care of things." 1428 01:03:28,205 --> 01:03:29,339 - [Narrator] During their investigation, 1429 01:03:29,373 --> 01:03:31,575 60 Minutes also found that prosecutors 1430 01:03:31,608 --> 01:03:33,377 withheld exculpatory evidence 1431 01:03:33,410 --> 01:03:36,146 involving their key witness, Nick Bailey. 1432 01:03:36,180 --> 01:03:38,849 - [Man] Bailey told us that before the Siegelman trial 1433 01:03:38,883 --> 01:03:42,186 he spoke to prosecutors more than 70 times. 1434 01:03:42,219 --> 01:03:45,255 He told us that the prosecutors were so frustrated, 1435 01:03:45,289 --> 01:03:48,125 they made him write his proposed testimony 1436 01:03:48,158 --> 01:03:51,996 over and over just to get his story straight. 1437 01:03:52,029 --> 01:03:53,430 - That got them so frustrated 1438 01:03:53,463 --> 01:03:55,465 that Bailey couldn't get his story straight 1439 01:03:55,499 --> 01:03:58,035 that they asked him just to write it out. 1440 01:03:58,068 --> 01:04:01,171 We were trying to get every bit of that information. 1441 01:04:01,205 --> 01:04:03,040 We asked for that. 1442 01:04:03,073 --> 01:04:05,342 The government's response was well, 1443 01:04:05,375 --> 01:04:09,546 if Mr. Bailey wrote out his testimony, we don't have it. 1444 01:04:11,181 --> 01:04:14,184 That would easily be another way to overturn 1445 01:04:14,218 --> 01:04:16,954 Governor Siegelman's conviction. 1446 01:04:16,987 --> 01:04:18,488 - [Narrator] Bailey claimed that he handed the notes 1447 01:04:18,522 --> 01:04:21,158 over to his attorney, George Beck, for safekeeping. 1448 01:04:21,191 --> 01:04:23,093 Beck, the attorney that cut the deal 1449 01:04:23,127 --> 01:04:24,561 for him to testify against Siegelman, 1450 01:04:24,594 --> 01:04:26,196 has denied ever having the binder 1451 01:04:26,230 --> 01:04:28,498 containing those notes in his possession. 1452 01:04:28,532 --> 01:04:30,600 - After the 60 Minutes report aired, 1453 01:04:30,634 --> 01:04:32,136 I mean they all... 1454 01:04:33,537 --> 01:04:36,206 Everybody ran around like their hair was on fire 1455 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,075 denying this had ever happened. 1456 01:04:38,108 --> 01:04:42,146 Nick's attorney claimed he never had a binder 1457 01:04:42,179 --> 01:04:44,381 full of questions and answers. 1458 01:04:44,414 --> 01:04:47,251 All of things that Nick had confirmed 1459 01:04:47,284 --> 01:04:48,953 to the people at CBS. 1460 01:04:48,986 --> 01:04:50,654 - [Narrator] The 60 Minutes bombshell gave the defense 1461 01:04:50,687 --> 01:04:52,422 the national attention it deserved, 1462 01:04:52,456 --> 01:04:54,091 however, there was more to Simpson's story 1463 01:04:54,124 --> 01:04:56,060 that was not covered in the report. 1464 01:04:56,093 --> 01:04:58,062 - And then when Jill Simpson indicated 1465 01:04:58,095 --> 01:05:01,231 that Rob Riley further went on to tell her 1466 01:05:01,265 --> 01:05:03,100 that they had a judge picked out 1467 01:05:03,133 --> 01:05:06,270 to preside over any Siegelman trial 1468 01:05:06,303 --> 01:05:09,006 and this judge was Mark Fuller 1469 01:05:10,207 --> 01:05:14,078 and he could be counted upon to hang Don Siegelman. 1470 01:05:15,312 --> 01:05:16,947 - [Narrator] When Fuller received his appointment 1471 01:05:16,981 --> 01:05:19,283 by the Bush Administration to the federal bench, 1472 01:05:19,316 --> 01:05:21,351 he vacated his job as district attorney 1473 01:05:21,385 --> 01:05:22,953 in Enterprise, Alabama. 1474 01:05:22,987 --> 01:05:25,122 As then governor, Siegelman filled the position 1475 01:05:25,155 --> 01:05:27,024 and a customary audit was performed 1476 01:05:27,057 --> 01:05:28,358 on Fuller's old office. 1477 01:05:28,392 --> 01:05:30,995 The result found that Fuller had misappropriated 1478 01:05:31,028 --> 01:05:34,231 over $300,000 in state retirement funds 1479 01:05:34,264 --> 01:05:36,700 when he spiked the salary of one of his employees. 1480 01:05:36,733 --> 01:05:38,235 Although no charges were filed, 1481 01:05:38,268 --> 01:05:40,237 it was a clear case of misconduct 1482 01:05:40,270 --> 01:05:42,506 and very embarrassing for a new up-and-coming judge 1483 01:05:42,539 --> 01:05:44,274 to be seen as dishonest. 1484 01:05:44,308 --> 01:05:46,510 Fuller blamed Siegelman and publicly stated 1485 01:05:46,543 --> 01:05:49,379 that the governor's actions were politically motivated. 1486 01:05:49,413 --> 01:05:51,148 - Don Siegelman called his hand on it. 1487 01:05:51,181 --> 01:05:53,083 The judge was publicly embarrassed. 1488 01:05:53,117 --> 01:05:54,484 The judge even commented in the paper 1489 01:05:54,518 --> 01:05:57,421 that Don Siegelman had damaged him politically. 1490 01:05:57,454 --> 01:06:00,290 - This was an issue that caused a major embarrassment 1491 01:06:00,324 --> 01:06:01,458 for Mark Fuller. 1492 01:06:01,491 --> 01:06:05,129 Instead of doing the right thing and recusing himself, 1493 01:06:05,162 --> 01:06:07,531 Mark Fuller saw that as an opportunity for payback. 1494 01:06:07,564 --> 01:06:10,300 - This judge had a political beef with Don Siegelman. 1495 01:06:10,334 --> 01:06:12,169 How did he end up sitting on the bench? 1496 01:06:12,202 --> 01:06:15,072 He was the chief judge of the Middle District of Alabama. 1497 01:06:15,105 --> 01:06:17,341 So he could do basically what he wanted to do. 1498 01:06:17,374 --> 01:06:20,110 All he had do is say I don't have a conflict of interest 1499 01:06:20,144 --> 01:06:21,211 and that's the end of story 1500 01:06:21,245 --> 01:06:22,746 and that's exactly what happened. 1501 01:06:22,779 --> 01:06:24,648 So we ended up with a judge with a conflict of interest 1502 01:06:24,681 --> 01:06:27,351 and a prosecutor with a conflict of interest 1503 01:06:27,384 --> 01:06:28,585 and when those things are mounted against you, 1504 01:06:28,618 --> 01:06:31,221 it's almost impossible to prevail. 1505 01:06:31,255 --> 01:06:34,291 - He sat as judge in this case 1506 01:06:34,324 --> 01:06:38,295 and he ensured that there was not a finger on the scale 1507 01:06:39,496 --> 01:06:41,265 supporting the prosecutor, 1508 01:06:41,298 --> 01:06:44,368 but a fist coming down on the side of the prosecution, 1509 01:06:44,401 --> 01:06:47,271 ensuring that this case was gonna result in a conviction. 1510 01:06:47,304 --> 01:06:50,040 (gentle music) 1511 01:06:50,074 --> 01:06:52,309 (clicking) 1512 01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,182 - [Narrator] Almost immediately after Siegelman 1513 01:06:58,215 --> 01:07:00,517 filed his appeal with the 11th Circuit in Atlanta, 1514 01:07:00,550 --> 01:07:02,152 his attorneys received a letter 1515 01:07:02,186 --> 01:07:03,387 from the Department of Justice 1516 01:07:03,420 --> 01:07:05,222 admitting to their own wrongdoing. 1517 01:07:05,255 --> 01:07:08,658 - During the appeal of Don's case to the 11th Circuit, 1518 01:07:08,692 --> 01:07:12,062 we get a letter from the appellate lawyer named Stemler. 1519 01:07:12,096 --> 01:07:15,332 I guess her conscious was hurting her. 1520 01:07:15,365 --> 01:07:17,501 Anyways, she wrote a long letter to the lawyers 1521 01:07:17,534 --> 01:07:21,238 and confessed that what the government had done 1522 01:07:21,271 --> 01:07:24,374 with regard to some juror emails 1523 01:07:24,408 --> 01:07:26,576 that we had gotten anonymously after the trial 1524 01:07:26,610 --> 01:07:29,279 that showed jurors were communicating back and forth, 1525 01:07:29,313 --> 01:07:31,415 which is a big no-no. 1526 01:07:31,448 --> 01:07:32,216 - [Narrator] If you recall, 1527 01:07:32,249 --> 01:07:33,683 the matter regarding juror emails 1528 01:07:33,717 --> 01:07:35,752 between Katie Langer and Sam Hendrix 1529 01:07:35,785 --> 01:07:36,986 was taken for Judge Fuller. 1530 01:07:37,020 --> 01:07:40,390 The defense asked the court to subpoena the ISP providers 1531 01:07:40,424 --> 01:07:43,393 to find out if those emails were in fact legitimate. 1532 01:07:43,427 --> 01:07:45,295 Judge Fuller denied their requests 1533 01:07:45,329 --> 01:07:48,098 and instructed both sides to simply do nothing. 1534 01:07:48,132 --> 01:07:49,833 Defense attorneys believed the matter was over, 1535 01:07:49,866 --> 01:07:52,202 however, unbeknownst to them at the time 1536 01:07:52,236 --> 01:07:54,571 the prosecution secretly took action. 1537 01:07:54,604 --> 01:07:58,142 - Louis Franklin had asked the Marshals Service 1538 01:07:58,175 --> 01:07:59,643 and the Postal Inspectors 1539 01:07:59,676 --> 01:08:03,147 to investigate the authenticity of the email. 1540 01:08:03,180 --> 01:08:04,381 Well that was on the tee. 1541 01:08:04,414 --> 01:08:06,216 Are they authentic or not? 1542 01:08:06,250 --> 01:08:07,651 If they're not authentic, forget it. 1543 01:08:07,684 --> 01:08:10,354 They're authentic, big problem for the government. 1544 01:08:10,387 --> 01:08:12,822 So we get what I call the Stemler letter 1545 01:08:12,856 --> 01:08:16,293 and she said "I just want to let you that Mr. Franklin, 1546 01:08:16,326 --> 01:08:19,329 "one of the prosecutors, had asked the Postal Service 1547 01:08:19,363 --> 01:08:22,266 "to investigate the authenticity of the emails 1548 01:08:22,299 --> 01:08:25,235 "and in fact they did and they determined that 1549 01:08:25,269 --> 01:08:27,237 "they were not genuine" 1550 01:08:27,271 --> 01:08:29,506 and we never heard about that. 1551 01:08:29,539 --> 01:08:32,876 - They withheld the information until such time 1552 01:08:32,909 --> 01:08:34,478 that we could not use it. 1553 01:08:34,511 --> 01:08:36,313 They informed us of this information 1554 01:08:36,346 --> 01:08:38,815 after the appeal had already been filed. 1555 01:08:38,848 --> 01:08:40,484 - [Narrator] Even though the letter stated 1556 01:08:40,517 --> 01:08:41,885 that the emails were not genuine, 1557 01:08:41,918 --> 01:08:43,720 the defense had no way of verifying 1558 01:08:43,753 --> 01:08:46,223 whether the investigation was conducted properly 1559 01:08:46,256 --> 01:08:47,424 or even at all. 1560 01:08:47,457 --> 01:08:49,493 Regardless of whether the emails were authentic or not, 1561 01:08:49,526 --> 01:08:51,361 the issue highlights four major problems 1562 01:08:51,395 --> 01:08:53,763 that each alone should have brought about a new trial. 1563 01:08:53,797 --> 01:08:56,633 One, the prosecution defied the judge's order 1564 01:08:56,666 --> 01:08:58,468 to not investigate the matter, 1565 01:08:58,502 --> 01:09:00,637 ex-parte communication occurred when prosecutors 1566 01:09:00,670 --> 01:09:03,307 discussed the issue in private with Judge Fuller 1567 01:09:03,340 --> 01:09:05,742 and outside the presence of defense attorneys, 1568 01:09:05,775 --> 01:09:08,178 there were failures to disclose when, one, 1569 01:09:08,212 --> 01:09:10,347 prosecutors deliberately suppressed their efforts 1570 01:09:10,380 --> 01:09:12,382 from the defense and when the Department of Justice 1571 01:09:12,416 --> 01:09:14,851 admitted to withholding key information 1572 01:09:14,884 --> 01:09:15,985 up until the moment the defense 1573 01:09:16,019 --> 01:09:19,556 no longer had any recourse to rectify the misconduct. 1574 01:09:19,589 --> 01:09:22,926 - We filed motions in the 11th Circuit 1575 01:09:22,959 --> 01:09:26,330 to try to get a special master to investigate this, 1576 01:09:26,363 --> 01:09:30,434 but by that time the thing had moved on to appeal process 1577 01:09:30,467 --> 01:09:32,569 and it's just not a good forum 1578 01:09:32,602 --> 01:09:34,571 to investigate that kind of thing. 1579 01:09:34,604 --> 01:09:37,474 The Constitution demanded we be told about that 1580 01:09:37,507 --> 01:09:38,842 and we were not. 1581 01:09:40,510 --> 01:09:43,813 Something needs to be done about that one. 1582 01:09:45,415 --> 01:09:48,218 (gentle music) 1583 01:09:49,018 --> 01:09:51,488 (clicking) 1584 01:09:55,559 --> 01:09:58,362 (solemn music) 1585 01:10:02,632 --> 01:10:05,602 - These were obviously incredibly disturbing things 1586 01:10:05,635 --> 01:10:07,571 that people were hearing 1587 01:10:07,604 --> 01:10:11,775 and then it was followed up by a letter by a paralegal, 1588 01:10:13,910 --> 01:10:15,512 Tamarah Grimes, 1589 01:10:15,545 --> 01:10:18,415 who was a member of the prosecution team, 1590 01:10:18,448 --> 01:10:20,650 to the Attorney General of the United States 1591 01:10:20,684 --> 01:10:23,753 outlining a series of irregularities 1592 01:10:23,787 --> 01:10:25,755 that she was very, very concerned about. 1593 01:10:25,789 --> 01:10:28,592 - [Narrator] As a paralegal working for the prosecution team 1594 01:10:28,625 --> 01:10:30,494 Tamarah Grimes provided an affidavit 1595 01:10:30,527 --> 01:10:33,430 revealing multiple counts of prosecutorial misconduct 1596 01:10:33,463 --> 01:10:35,532 she had witnessed behind closed doors 1597 01:10:35,565 --> 01:10:38,968 in the US Attorney's office before and during the trial. 1598 01:10:39,002 --> 01:10:41,438 Supported by emails and other documents, 1599 01:10:41,471 --> 01:10:44,574 she provided hard evidence that showed Leura Canary 1600 01:10:44,608 --> 01:10:47,010 had in fact continued working on the case 1601 01:10:47,043 --> 01:10:48,645 despite her so-called recusal. 1602 01:10:48,678 --> 01:10:51,047 Grimes also explained in greater depth 1603 01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,617 how Nick Bailey had been pressured and cajoled 1604 01:10:53,650 --> 01:10:56,586 by Faega and Franklin into falsely testifying 1605 01:10:56,620 --> 01:10:59,489 against his former boss and Richard Scrushy. 1606 01:10:59,523 --> 01:11:01,625 Grimes also provided evidence showing how 1607 01:11:01,658 --> 01:11:05,061 FBI agent Keith Baker, a member of the prosecution team, 1608 01:11:05,094 --> 01:11:07,897 could have been in contact with juror Katie Langer, 1609 01:11:07,931 --> 01:11:10,600 aka Flipper, during the trial. 1610 01:11:10,634 --> 01:11:13,603 In one email, anther member of the prosecution team 1611 01:11:13,637 --> 01:11:16,506 referred to juror Katie Langer as Flipper. 1612 01:11:16,540 --> 01:11:19,376 The question is how would someone from the prosecution 1613 01:11:19,409 --> 01:11:22,512 have known that juror's nicknamed Langer Flipper 1614 01:11:22,546 --> 01:11:26,716 unless they were in contact with someone from the jury? 1615 01:11:28,017 --> 01:11:30,053 After two years of following proper procedures 1616 01:11:30,086 --> 01:11:31,855 and filing authorized complaints 1617 01:11:31,888 --> 01:11:33,557 to the Justice Department, 1618 01:11:33,590 --> 01:11:36,025 she wrote a letter to then US Attorney General Eric Holder 1619 01:11:36,059 --> 01:11:38,528 detailing the abuse and misconduct 1620 01:11:38,562 --> 01:11:41,365 she had witnessed while working with the prosecution. 1621 01:11:41,398 --> 01:11:44,668 Eight days later, Holder fired her. 1622 01:11:44,701 --> 01:11:47,471 - You know, when presented between a question 1623 01:11:47,504 --> 01:11:50,507 of clear-cut justice what is right 1624 01:11:50,540 --> 01:11:53,777 and protecting the institutional interests 1625 01:11:54,678 --> 01:11:56,446 of the Department of Justice, 1626 01:11:56,480 --> 01:11:58,782 this is never a close call 1627 01:11:58,815 --> 01:12:01,418 for the senior figures of the Justice Department. 1628 01:12:01,451 --> 01:12:03,887 They will protect the image and reputation 1629 01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,623 of the institution every time. 1630 01:12:08,024 --> 01:12:10,627 (gentle music) 1631 01:12:11,628 --> 01:12:13,863 (clicking) 1632 01:12:18,535 --> 01:12:20,470 (gloomy music) 1633 01:12:20,504 --> 01:12:21,471 - [Narrator] During the trial, 1634 01:12:21,505 --> 01:12:23,707 everyone thought that former HealthSouth CEO 1635 01:12:23,740 --> 01:12:26,610 Richard Scrushy was the richest man in the courtroom, 1636 01:12:26,643 --> 01:12:27,477 but he wasn't. 1637 01:12:27,511 --> 01:12:29,713 That honor went to Judge Mark Fuller. 1638 01:12:29,746 --> 01:12:31,781 In addition to his federal judgeship, 1639 01:12:31,815 --> 01:12:34,718 Fuller also ran a company called Doss Aviation 1640 01:12:34,751 --> 01:12:37,587 that relied almost entirely on government contracts. 1641 01:12:37,621 --> 01:12:40,123 Around the same time the prosecution rested, 1642 01:12:40,156 --> 01:12:44,027 Doss Aviation was awarded a 10-year Air Force contract 1643 01:12:44,060 --> 01:12:46,596 for a whopping $178 million. 1644 01:12:47,597 --> 01:12:48,865 (dramatic chord) 1645 01:12:48,898 --> 01:12:50,834 Something that could have easily been influenced 1646 01:12:50,867 --> 01:12:54,137 by White House officials, including Karl Rove. 1647 01:12:54,170 --> 01:12:57,774 - Doss Aviation is a company that Mark Fuller 1648 01:12:57,807 --> 01:13:00,577 was the principle owner of. 1649 01:13:00,610 --> 01:13:02,612 So here is a prosecution 1650 01:13:03,980 --> 01:13:08,718 against Governor Siegelman being brought by the government 1651 01:13:08,752 --> 01:13:12,789 and here's Mark Fuller wearing his hat as a judge 1652 01:13:12,822 --> 01:13:16,426 in this case where he's also wearing a hat 1653 01:13:16,460 --> 01:13:18,595 as a major contract, 1654 01:13:18,628 --> 01:13:21,164 beneficiary of major contracts with the federal government. 1655 01:13:21,197 --> 01:13:24,067 - I looked at one point at corruption sentences 1656 01:13:24,100 --> 01:13:25,702 that were handed down for politicians 1657 01:13:25,735 --> 01:13:27,671 who actually engaged in corruption 1658 01:13:27,704 --> 01:13:30,540 and it's like two years, two and a half years, 1659 01:13:30,574 --> 01:13:31,708 that's sort of the norm. 1660 01:13:31,741 --> 01:13:33,577 He's been in for four and a half years 1661 01:13:33,610 --> 01:13:35,612 and he didn't engage in any corruption. 1662 01:13:35,645 --> 01:13:38,548 I mean it really is just completely outrageous 1663 01:13:38,582 --> 01:13:41,785 and that's because of Mark fucking Fuller, 1664 01:13:41,818 --> 01:13:44,488 you know, that crook. 1665 01:13:44,521 --> 01:13:45,789 He should be in jail. 1666 01:13:45,822 --> 01:13:48,792 I mean he should be in jail for violent crimes. 1667 01:13:48,825 --> 01:13:50,093 - [Operator] What's going on? 1668 01:13:50,126 --> 01:13:52,061 - [Kelli] I'm in a domestic-- 1669 01:13:52,095 --> 01:13:53,797 - [Operator] Excuse me? 1670 01:13:53,830 --> 01:13:55,231 - [Kelli] A domestic dispute. 1671 01:13:55,264 --> 01:13:58,702 - [Operator] Okay, with yourself and who else? 1672 01:13:58,735 --> 01:14:01,237 - [Kelli] I'm calling, I need help. 1673 01:14:01,270 --> 01:14:02,772 - [Operator] What's your name? 1674 01:14:02,806 --> 01:14:05,675 - [Kelli] Kelli Fuller. 1675 01:14:05,709 --> 01:14:07,677 - [Operator] Okay, do you need an ambulance? 1676 01:14:07,711 --> 01:14:08,745 - [Kelli] Yes, please. 1677 01:14:08,778 --> 01:14:10,213 - [Operator] Kelli? 1678 01:14:10,246 --> 01:14:11,047 (whacking) 1679 01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:11,881 Kelli? 1680 01:14:11,915 --> 01:14:13,650 (whacking) 1681 01:14:13,683 --> 01:14:16,152 Okay, she needs an ambulance. 1682 01:14:16,185 --> 01:14:17,821 I'm sending the police. 1683 01:14:17,854 --> 01:14:19,989 They're in a domestic fight now at the Ritz-Carlton. 1684 01:14:20,023 --> 01:14:21,991 - [Kelli] Please help me, he's beating on me. 1685 01:14:22,025 --> 01:14:23,927 I hate you, I hate you. 1686 01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:25,094 - [Mark] I hate you. 1687 01:14:25,128 --> 01:14:26,229 I hate you too. 1688 01:14:26,262 --> 01:14:27,697 - [Operator] We're the EMS. 1689 01:14:27,731 --> 01:14:29,098 I need the address of your emergency. 1690 01:14:29,132 --> 01:14:30,734 (mumbling) 1691 01:14:30,767 --> 01:14:32,536 - [Narrator] In August of 2014, 1692 01:14:32,569 --> 01:14:34,604 Atlanta Police were called to a luxury hotel 1693 01:14:34,638 --> 01:14:37,607 in downtown Atlanta where they arrested Judge Mark Fuller 1694 01:14:37,641 --> 01:14:40,610 for violently assaulting his wife Kelli Gregg Fuller. 1695 01:14:40,644 --> 01:14:43,046 The report stated that he had repeatedly struck Kelli 1696 01:14:43,079 --> 01:14:44,514 several times in the face 1697 01:14:44,548 --> 01:14:46,850 and even pulled clumps of her from her scalp. 1698 01:14:46,883 --> 01:14:49,586 For the assault, Fuller received a nominal sentence 1699 01:14:49,619 --> 01:14:50,554 for domestic abuse. 1700 01:14:50,587 --> 01:14:53,022 Fuller was forced to resign from the bench. 1701 01:14:53,056 --> 01:14:55,859 In a scathing report issued after the investigation, 1702 01:14:55,892 --> 01:14:57,794 a judiciary committee found that Fuller 1703 01:14:57,827 --> 01:15:00,764 had abused his wife at least eight times. 1704 01:15:00,797 --> 01:15:02,832 The report also stated that Fuller 1705 01:15:02,866 --> 01:15:05,301 had made false statements to the court years earlier 1706 01:15:05,334 --> 01:15:07,871 that caused, quote, "massive disruption 1707 01:15:07,904 --> 01:15:09,906 "and loss of public confidence in the court." 1708 01:15:09,939 --> 01:15:12,041 The report also suggested that impeachment 1709 01:15:12,075 --> 01:15:13,743 should still be considered 1710 01:15:13,777 --> 01:15:16,079 even though he had already resigned from the bench. 1711 01:15:16,112 --> 01:15:18,815 - That's the judge who oversaw this entire process. 1712 01:15:18,848 --> 01:15:21,651 That's the judge that these prosecutors 1713 01:15:21,685 --> 01:15:23,753 desperately wanted to have handle the case. 1714 01:15:23,787 --> 01:15:25,622 A criminal judge, 1715 01:15:25,655 --> 01:15:27,657 not the judge who sits in criminal cases, 1716 01:15:27,691 --> 01:15:29,893 but a judge who is a criminal 1717 01:15:29,926 --> 01:15:33,897 and who was ultimately removed from the bench 1718 01:15:35,031 --> 01:15:38,702 based on his violent criminal behavior. 1719 01:15:38,735 --> 01:15:41,137 (gentle music) 1720 01:15:42,606 --> 01:15:44,841 (clicking) 1721 01:15:48,912 --> 01:15:50,046 - [Narrator] Justice Don Siegelman 1722 01:15:50,079 --> 01:15:51,915 had been convicted in Fuller's court, 1723 01:15:51,948 --> 01:15:54,751 our story returns full circle from where it began. 1724 01:15:54,784 --> 01:15:56,886 The Riley Administration that once relied 1725 01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,856 on under-the-table contributions from Indian gaming interest 1726 01:15:59,889 --> 01:16:01,357 to get him elected governor 1727 01:16:01,390 --> 01:16:04,093 was now using his position as the state's top lawmaker 1728 01:16:04,127 --> 01:16:07,230 to provide those Indian gaming interests with protection. 1729 01:16:07,263 --> 01:16:09,799 It was Choctaw casino cash that secretly funded 1730 01:16:09,833 --> 01:16:12,902 the Riley campaign to defeat Siegelman in 2002, 1731 01:16:12,936 --> 01:16:15,772 but now the Republican governor had a new benefactor, 1732 01:16:15,805 --> 01:16:17,306 the Poarch Creek Indian tribe 1733 01:16:17,340 --> 01:16:19,843 who operated two casinos in Alabama. 1734 01:16:19,876 --> 01:16:22,045 Looking to expand his influence even further, 1735 01:16:22,078 --> 01:16:24,147 Governor Riley summoned Milton McGregor, 1736 01:16:24,180 --> 01:16:26,850 owner of Victoryland, the state's largest casino 1737 01:16:26,883 --> 01:16:29,719 and primary competition for the Poarch Creek Indians, 1738 01:16:29,753 --> 01:16:31,387 to his office in the state capitol 1739 01:16:31,420 --> 01:16:32,956 with a point blank demand. 1740 01:16:32,989 --> 01:16:35,925 - When I met with Bob Riley at his request at lunch 1741 01:16:35,959 --> 01:16:39,095 in the governor's office at the state capitol, 1742 01:16:39,128 --> 01:16:42,632 within 10 minutes after me walking into that conference room 1743 01:16:42,666 --> 01:16:46,936 with him, he made it real clear what he wanted to talk about 1744 01:16:46,970 --> 01:16:50,707 was me hiring Rob Riley as one of my attorneys 1745 01:16:50,740 --> 01:16:54,343 and it wasn't a request, it was like a demand, 1746 01:16:54,377 --> 01:16:56,746 which didn't sit very well with me. 1747 01:16:56,780 --> 01:16:58,314 I didn't tell him I'd think about it. 1748 01:16:58,347 --> 01:16:59,949 I told him no. 1749 01:16:59,983 --> 01:17:03,319 The meeting did not go well at all because 1750 01:17:03,352 --> 01:17:06,155 the more he talked, the more I got offended. 1751 01:17:06,189 --> 01:17:09,292 We got loud enough that his receptionist opened the door 1752 01:17:09,325 --> 01:17:11,661 and asked if we were all right 1753 01:17:11,695 --> 01:17:14,998 because we were getting pretty loud in there, he and I both. 1754 01:17:15,031 --> 01:17:17,000 - [Narrator] Riley critics, including McGregor, 1755 01:17:17,033 --> 01:17:20,003 call his demand for payment as nothing more than extortion. 1756 01:17:20,036 --> 01:17:21,771 Instead of cash under the table, 1757 01:17:21,805 --> 01:17:23,840 payment would come in the form of legal fees 1758 01:17:23,873 --> 01:17:27,043 paid to the law firm owned by his son Rob Riley, 1759 01:17:27,076 --> 01:17:29,946 thus appearing as a normal business transaction. 1760 01:17:29,979 --> 01:17:32,215 A few weeks after his demand had been rejected, 1761 01:17:32,248 --> 01:17:34,851 Riley set his sights on McGregor once again 1762 01:17:34,884 --> 01:17:36,853 when he created a new organization 1763 01:17:36,886 --> 01:17:38,855 called the Illegal Gambling Task Force 1764 01:17:38,888 --> 01:17:40,957 with the intention of shutting down Victoryland 1765 01:17:40,990 --> 01:17:42,992 and other smaller gambling venues 1766 01:17:43,026 --> 01:17:46,162 that were considered competition for the Indian casinos. 1767 01:17:46,195 --> 01:17:48,464 - Hello, I'm Governor Bob Riley. 1768 01:17:48,497 --> 01:17:51,868 I believe we're blessed to live in Alabama. 1769 01:17:51,901 --> 01:17:53,236 We have a quality of life 1770 01:17:53,269 --> 01:17:56,740 that is unmatched anywhere else in the world. 1771 01:17:56,773 --> 01:17:58,141 I never want to see anything happen 1772 01:17:58,174 --> 01:18:01,010 that would degrade our quality of life 1773 01:18:01,044 --> 01:18:03,312 and there's no doubt in my mind 1774 01:18:03,346 --> 01:18:06,916 that gambling does degrade our quality of life. 1775 01:18:06,950 --> 01:18:10,086 It corrupts Alabama and hurts the people who live here. 1776 01:18:10,119 --> 01:18:12,789 So I signed an executive order in December 1777 01:18:12,822 --> 01:18:15,792 to create a task force on illegal gambling. 1778 01:18:15,825 --> 01:18:18,027 This task force, with the help of state 1779 01:18:18,061 --> 01:18:20,296 and local law enforcement officers, 1780 01:18:20,329 --> 01:18:23,933 is designed to make sure Alabama's laws against gambling 1781 01:18:23,967 --> 01:18:26,936 are uniformly enforced in all of our communities. 1782 01:18:26,970 --> 01:18:30,774 - He announced he was forming an Illegal Gambling Task Force 1783 01:18:30,807 --> 01:18:33,309 is what he called it, but it was only a few weeks after that 1784 01:18:33,342 --> 01:18:37,480 that he sent state troopers at four o'clock in the morning 1785 01:18:37,513 --> 01:18:39,849 to Victoryland without a search warrant, 1786 01:18:39,883 --> 01:18:42,185 raiding us, closing our business down, 1787 01:18:42,218 --> 01:18:44,153 something that you would expect 1788 01:18:44,187 --> 01:18:46,923 in Nazi Germany 60 years ago. 1789 01:18:46,956 --> 01:18:48,124 According to the news report, 1790 01:18:48,157 --> 01:18:52,128 over 100 state troopers came to Victoryland 1791 01:18:52,161 --> 01:18:53,529 like a Gestapo crowd. 1792 01:18:53,562 --> 01:18:54,964 - [Narrator] Although later that same morning, 1793 01:18:54,998 --> 01:18:56,966 a judge ruled that the surprise raid 1794 01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:58,768 was completely unconstitutional, 1795 01:18:58,802 --> 01:19:01,905 it only fueled Riley's efforts to shut down Victoryland. 1796 01:19:01,938 --> 01:19:04,107 After Riley failed to extort protection money 1797 01:19:04,140 --> 01:19:06,042 from McGregor in the form of legal fees 1798 01:19:06,075 --> 01:19:07,811 paid to his son Rob Riley, 1799 01:19:07,844 --> 01:19:09,445 he joined forces with newly-elected 1800 01:19:09,478 --> 01:19:12,048 Alabama Attorney General Luther Strange 1801 01:19:12,081 --> 01:19:14,918 and together they rewrote state gambling laws 1802 01:19:14,951 --> 01:19:16,786 that would force Victoryland's closure. 1803 01:19:16,820 --> 01:19:18,287 Although traditional one-arm bandits 1804 01:19:18,321 --> 01:19:19,989 are not allowed in Alabama, 1805 01:19:20,023 --> 01:19:23,059 state law does permit the use of so-called bingo machines 1806 01:19:23,092 --> 01:19:25,128 even though the two are virtually identical. 1807 01:19:25,161 --> 01:19:26,295 In an aggressive move, 1808 01:19:26,329 --> 01:19:29,833 Strange drafted so-called memorandums of understanding 1809 01:19:29,866 --> 01:19:32,368 that legally redefined Victoryland's machines 1810 01:19:32,401 --> 01:19:33,970 as illegal slot machines, 1811 01:19:34,003 --> 01:19:36,439 but in a second memo Strange defined those 1812 01:19:36,472 --> 01:19:39,075 at the Poarch Creek casino as bingo machines, 1813 01:19:39,108 --> 01:19:40,977 thus legally permitted for use. 1814 01:19:41,010 --> 01:19:43,312 Weeks later, as the state's top prosecutor, 1815 01:19:43,346 --> 01:19:46,249 Strange then ordered all Victoryland's machines 1816 01:19:46,282 --> 01:19:48,551 to be removed, forcing them to close their doors 1817 01:19:48,584 --> 01:19:50,586 and lay off hundreds of employees. 1818 01:19:50,619 --> 01:19:52,922 The motive behind their actions became clear 1819 01:19:52,956 --> 01:19:55,024 when an article published by the Montgomery Advertiser 1820 01:19:55,058 --> 01:19:58,261 revealed records showing that the Poarch Creek Indian casino 1821 01:19:58,294 --> 01:20:03,099 donated $350,000 via a national Republican organization 1822 01:20:03,132 --> 01:20:07,070 to Riley-affiliated pacts with $100,000 of that money 1823 01:20:07,103 --> 01:20:09,338 funneled directly to Luther Strange's campaign 1824 01:20:09,372 --> 01:20:11,540 for Attorney General the previous year. 1825 01:20:11,574 --> 01:20:14,210 Publicly, the Riley Administration opposed gambling, 1826 01:20:14,243 --> 01:20:17,613 but privately they were pulling in millions in casino cash. 1827 01:20:17,646 --> 01:20:21,017 - The Riley machine on the face was against gambling. 1828 01:20:21,050 --> 01:20:25,188 In reality, under the table and secretly, 1829 01:20:25,221 --> 01:20:29,158 they took millions of dollars from the Native Americans. 1830 01:20:29,192 --> 01:20:32,862 That money was used to elect Bob Riley 1831 01:20:32,896 --> 01:20:34,130 and other Republicans. 1832 01:20:34,163 --> 01:20:38,201 Once they got in office, they repaid the Indians 1833 01:20:38,234 --> 01:20:42,038 by shutting down Victoryland and other gaming facilities 1834 01:20:42,071 --> 01:20:44,941 that competed with the Native Americans. 1835 01:20:44,974 --> 01:20:47,410 It was that same Bob Riley machine 1836 01:20:47,443 --> 01:20:50,880 that transferred millions of dollars 1837 01:20:50,914 --> 01:20:53,616 into the Attorney General's office to continue the fight. 1838 01:20:53,649 --> 01:20:55,284 - [Narrator] Despite the chorus of decent, 1839 01:20:55,318 --> 01:20:57,653 Leura Canary continued as federal prosecutor 1840 01:20:57,686 --> 01:20:59,222 for another three years 1841 01:20:59,255 --> 01:21:00,990 under Attorney General Eric Holder 1842 01:21:01,024 --> 01:21:02,491 and the Obama Administration, 1843 01:21:02,525 --> 01:21:05,228 just enough time for one more October surprise 1844 01:21:05,261 --> 01:21:08,064 when she indicted Milton McGregor and 10 others 1845 01:21:08,097 --> 01:21:10,099 on federal racketeering charges. 1846 01:21:10,133 --> 01:21:12,268 - 11 defendants named in the indictment 1847 01:21:12,301 --> 01:21:14,904 are charged with forming a corrupt network 1848 01:21:14,938 --> 01:21:18,307 of legislators, businessmen and lobbyists 1849 01:21:18,341 --> 01:21:21,911 whose aim was to manipulate the Democratic process 1850 01:21:21,945 --> 01:21:23,146 for personal gain. 1851 01:21:23,179 --> 01:21:24,948 - Then we had a trial and we were declared 1852 01:21:24,981 --> 01:21:27,616 not guilty on every single charge. 1853 01:21:29,285 --> 01:21:30,286 That ended it. 1854 01:21:30,319 --> 01:21:32,088 - [Narrator] Another example of Governor Riley 1855 01:21:32,121 --> 01:21:34,123 using the judiciary as a weapon 1856 01:21:34,157 --> 01:21:36,559 was when he approached then Alabama attorney general 1857 01:21:36,592 --> 01:21:39,695 Troy King who disagreed with him on the gambling issue. 1858 01:21:39,728 --> 01:21:42,298 First time I really personally encountered 1859 01:21:42,331 --> 01:21:45,134 overzealous prosecutors being used 1860 01:21:45,168 --> 01:21:47,503 as political pawns and weapons 1861 01:21:47,536 --> 01:21:49,638 was in a meeting I had with the Governor of Alabama 1862 01:21:49,672 --> 01:21:52,275 where we were talking about the gambling issue. 1863 01:21:52,308 --> 01:21:54,410 At the end of the meeting, the governor said 1864 01:21:54,443 --> 01:21:57,146 "Well tell me about your grand jury." 1865 01:21:57,180 --> 01:21:58,982 And I looked at him dumbfounded. 1866 01:21:59,015 --> 01:22:00,316 I said "What are you talking about? 1867 01:22:00,349 --> 01:22:02,018 "What grand jury?" 1868 01:22:02,051 --> 01:22:03,419 And he said "Well you know you have a grand jury 1869 01:22:03,452 --> 01:22:06,255 "investigating you, don't you?" 1870 01:22:06,289 --> 01:22:08,524 I didn't know it and I told him I didn't know it 1871 01:22:08,557 --> 01:22:12,228 and his response was to stand up, look at me and say 1872 01:22:12,261 --> 01:22:15,198 "Well, if we can get on the same page on gambling, 1873 01:22:15,231 --> 01:22:17,266 "I think everything will be okay" 1874 01:22:17,300 --> 01:22:19,135 and to turn around and walk out of his office 1875 01:22:19,168 --> 01:22:20,403 and I'm here to tell you 1876 01:22:20,436 --> 01:22:24,140 when political prosecutions occur, 1877 01:22:24,173 --> 01:22:26,442 when there can be a difference of opinion over the law 1878 01:22:26,475 --> 01:22:30,213 and the reaction is to try to put people in jail 1879 01:22:30,246 --> 01:22:32,115 for disagreeing with you, 1880 01:22:32,148 --> 01:22:35,184 that has no place in the public arena. 1881 01:22:35,218 --> 01:22:38,021 (gentle music) 1882 01:22:38,754 --> 01:22:41,224 (clicking) 1883 01:22:45,561 --> 01:22:47,230 (gloomy music) 1884 01:22:47,263 --> 01:22:50,033 - Bob Riley gives a lot of credit to Karl Rove 1885 01:22:50,066 --> 01:22:53,002 for being the architect, sort of the mastermind 1886 01:22:53,036 --> 01:22:55,504 on how to do certain things that they did. 1887 01:22:55,538 --> 01:22:57,740 - We know, everybody knows 1888 01:22:57,773 --> 01:23:00,376 that Karl Rove had a game plan. 1889 01:23:01,310 --> 01:23:03,146 He was the architect. 1890 01:23:03,179 --> 01:23:07,216 - We're at the DNC in Charlotte, North Carolina in 2012 1891 01:23:07,250 --> 01:23:11,220 and I had a hunch that Karl Rove was around the corner. 1892 01:23:12,621 --> 01:23:15,591 I actually did spot him walking down with his security guard 1893 01:23:15,624 --> 01:23:18,227 in the hallway and I went up to him 1894 01:23:18,261 --> 01:23:20,763 and he must have thought I was a reporter or whatever, 1895 01:23:20,796 --> 01:23:23,299 so I stuck out my hand and I said 1896 01:23:23,332 --> 01:23:26,535 "Mr. Rove, I'm Dana Siegelman, Don Siegelman's daughter" 1897 01:23:26,569 --> 01:23:30,706 and said it just like that and he went berserk. 1898 01:23:30,739 --> 01:23:32,175 As soon as I introduced myself, 1899 01:23:32,208 --> 01:23:34,243 which I thought I did very politely, 1900 01:23:34,277 --> 01:23:36,312 you know, sir, Don Siegelman's daughter, 1901 01:23:36,345 --> 01:23:38,181 I just wanted to meet you and say, 1902 01:23:38,214 --> 01:23:39,082 he cut me off right away, 1903 01:23:39,115 --> 01:23:41,117 started shaking his finger in my face 1904 01:23:41,150 --> 01:23:44,287 and said "Tell your dad not to use my name to make money." 1905 01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:47,223 And he kind of, he nearly spit in my face, 1906 01:23:47,256 --> 01:23:48,557 but he got up in my face 1907 01:23:48,591 --> 01:23:50,359 and told me how much he hated Dad 1908 01:23:50,393 --> 01:23:53,296 and he was gonna ring Dad for all he was worth 1909 01:23:53,329 --> 01:23:55,698 and how dare I come up to him 1910 01:23:57,166 --> 01:24:00,403 and he got so flustered and red-faced 1911 01:24:00,436 --> 01:24:04,240 and just basically ran after he realized 1912 01:24:04,273 --> 01:24:06,842 that he had just like basically gotten in my face 1913 01:24:06,875 --> 01:24:09,745 and that there were camera crews coming towards us, 1914 01:24:09,778 --> 01:24:11,614 he just started to run. 1915 01:24:11,647 --> 01:24:13,182 - [Narrator] When the House Judiciary Committee 1916 01:24:13,216 --> 01:24:15,318 ordered Rove to testify about his role 1917 01:24:15,351 --> 01:24:17,420 in the Siegelman case and the attorney firings, 1918 01:24:17,453 --> 01:24:19,455 he simply refused to honor the subpoena, 1919 01:24:19,488 --> 01:24:21,190 citing executive privilege. 1920 01:24:21,224 --> 01:24:23,259 In the months following his no-show before the committee, 1921 01:24:23,292 --> 01:24:25,661 his lawyers eventually cut a sweetheart deal 1922 01:24:25,694 --> 01:24:27,263 with the House Judiciary Committee. 1923 01:24:27,296 --> 01:24:29,165 Instead of testifying under oath, 1924 01:24:29,198 --> 01:24:31,400 he was only required to answer questions 1925 01:24:31,434 --> 01:24:33,469 behind closed doors without being sworn in 1926 01:24:33,502 --> 01:24:35,371 and the session would not be recorded. 1927 01:24:35,404 --> 01:24:37,373 This eliminated any legal recourse 1928 01:24:37,406 --> 01:24:39,375 for lawmakers to hold Rove accountable 1929 01:24:39,408 --> 01:24:40,876 should he make false statements 1930 01:24:40,909 --> 01:24:43,212 and essentially made his testimony worthless. 1931 01:24:43,246 --> 01:24:44,280 What no one knew at the time 1932 01:24:44,313 --> 01:24:45,681 was that one of his attorneys 1933 01:24:45,714 --> 01:24:47,583 that quietly made those arrangements 1934 01:24:47,616 --> 01:24:50,486 was Eric Holder while he was working as a private attorney 1935 01:24:50,519 --> 01:24:52,421 and just months before he was sworn in 1936 01:24:52,455 --> 01:24:55,191 as Attorney General in the Obama Administration. 1937 01:24:55,224 --> 01:24:59,428 - The RNC and Karl Rove were represented by guess who? 1938 01:24:59,462 --> 01:25:01,230 At Covington and Burling, 1939 01:25:01,264 --> 01:25:04,133 right before he went in as Attorney General, 1940 01:25:04,167 --> 01:25:06,335 none other than Eric Holder. 1941 01:25:06,369 --> 01:25:09,738 - The law firm that represented Karl Rove at that time 1942 01:25:09,772 --> 01:25:12,341 and had for years and probably does today 1943 01:25:12,375 --> 01:25:15,211 is the law firm that Eric Holder came from, 1944 01:25:15,244 --> 01:25:16,779 Covington and Burling. 1945 01:25:16,812 --> 01:25:18,447 - [Narrator] Little known to most of the public, 1946 01:25:18,481 --> 01:25:21,484 just before Holder became head of the Justice Department, 1947 01:25:21,517 --> 01:25:23,419 he was paid a multi-million dollar salary 1948 01:25:23,452 --> 01:25:25,321 as a partner at Covington and Burling, 1949 01:25:25,354 --> 01:25:28,724 a high-powered DC law firm with deep Republican ties. 1950 01:25:28,757 --> 01:25:30,526 Covington's current and former client list 1951 01:25:30,559 --> 01:25:32,895 reads like a who's who of some of America's 1952 01:25:32,928 --> 01:25:34,463 most tarnished organizations, 1953 01:25:34,497 --> 01:25:36,865 including Halliburton, Enron executives, 1954 01:25:36,899 --> 01:25:39,302 Philip Morris and many of the Wall Street firms 1955 01:25:39,335 --> 01:25:41,437 at the heart of the so-called great recession, 1956 01:25:41,470 --> 01:25:43,772 none of whom were held responsible by the DOJ 1957 01:25:43,806 --> 01:25:46,309 for their role in the financial disaster. 1958 01:25:46,342 --> 01:25:49,445 Covington's website even boasts of representing the RNC 1959 01:25:49,478 --> 01:25:52,415 after thousands of emails were mysteriously erased 1960 01:25:52,448 --> 01:25:54,283 and presumed unrecoverable, 1961 01:25:54,317 --> 01:25:56,452 emails that many believe would have proven 1962 01:25:56,485 --> 01:25:58,454 that another Covington client, Karl Rove, 1963 01:25:58,487 --> 01:26:01,290 was the ringleader behind both the attorney firings 1964 01:26:01,324 --> 01:26:02,358 and the Siegelman case. 1965 01:26:02,391 --> 01:26:05,228 As Attorney General, Holder tapped Lanny Breuer, 1966 01:26:05,261 --> 01:26:06,929 a former colleague of his at Covington, 1967 01:26:06,962 --> 01:26:09,498 to head the Justice Department's Criminal Division. 1968 01:26:09,532 --> 01:26:10,666 - Congratulations. - Thank you. 1969 01:26:10,699 --> 01:26:12,235 (applause) 1970 01:26:12,268 --> 01:26:13,402 - [Narrator] Breuer's group oversaw 1971 01:26:13,436 --> 01:26:15,404 the Milton McGregor prosecution. 1972 01:26:15,438 --> 01:26:18,707 - This morning, federal agents began arresting 1973 01:26:18,741 --> 01:26:20,409 11 individuals. 1974 01:26:20,443 --> 01:26:21,977 - [Man] Federal prosecutors say they've uncovered evidence 1975 01:26:22,010 --> 01:26:25,448 of a widespread corruption scandal in Alabama. 1976 01:26:25,481 --> 01:26:27,683 - [Narrator] A case so weak that it ultimately resulted 1977 01:26:27,716 --> 01:26:31,354 in across-the-board acquittals for all 11 defendants. 1978 01:26:31,387 --> 01:26:33,322 This raises a very serious question, 1979 01:26:33,356 --> 01:26:34,623 why would the Justice Department, 1980 01:26:34,657 --> 01:26:36,425 under another political party, 1981 01:26:36,459 --> 01:26:39,228 allow a case so obviously tainted by corruption 1982 01:26:39,262 --> 01:26:41,397 to go forward if there were not some kind 1983 01:26:41,430 --> 01:26:44,233 of insider influence involved? 1984 01:26:44,267 --> 01:26:46,402 - Really the one that I think 1985 01:26:46,435 --> 01:26:49,004 needs to be investigated more than anybody 1986 01:26:49,037 --> 01:26:53,509 in this whole Siegelman, whole prosecute the Democrats thing 1987 01:26:53,542 --> 01:26:54,577 is Eric Holder. 1988 01:26:54,610 --> 01:26:57,513 Nobody's laid a finger on him. 1989 01:26:57,546 --> 01:26:59,582 - [Narrator] Could Holder's ties with Covington clients 1990 01:26:59,615 --> 01:27:02,651 Karl Rove and the RNC be the reason he personally fired 1991 01:27:02,685 --> 01:27:06,622 DOJ paralegal Tamarah Grimes for providing strong evidence 1992 01:27:06,655 --> 01:27:09,658 of prosecutorial misconduct in the Siegelman case? 1993 01:27:09,692 --> 01:27:12,495 Obviously Rove and the RNC would have wanted to minimize 1994 01:27:12,528 --> 01:27:14,930 any fallout from potential malfeasance, 1995 01:27:14,963 --> 01:27:16,432 however, as Attorney General 1996 01:27:16,465 --> 01:27:18,701 it was Eric Holder's responsibility 1997 01:27:18,734 --> 01:27:21,937 to notify all parties involved of his conflicts of interest 1998 01:27:21,970 --> 01:27:23,739 stemming from his work at Covington 1999 01:27:23,772 --> 01:27:26,309 and to recuse himself from any cases 2000 01:27:26,342 --> 01:27:27,976 associated with those clients. 2001 01:27:28,010 --> 01:27:30,613 Instead, he chose to hide that fact 2002 01:27:30,646 --> 01:27:33,849 and even took it one step further by firing Grimes 2003 01:27:33,882 --> 01:27:36,285 in an attempt to silence the damning evidence 2004 01:27:36,319 --> 01:27:38,721 she provided against Rove and Leura Canary 2005 01:27:38,754 --> 01:27:40,823 and many others in the Justice Department. 2006 01:27:40,856 --> 01:27:43,492 Legal critics also cite Holder's ties 2007 01:27:43,526 --> 01:27:44,927 to Karl Rove and the RNC 2008 01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,563 as the reason Canary, a Bush appointee, 2009 01:27:47,596 --> 01:27:49,532 remain prosecutor for three more years 2010 01:27:49,565 --> 01:27:51,634 under the Obama Administration 2011 01:27:51,667 --> 01:27:53,336 despite her conflicts of interest 2012 01:27:53,369 --> 01:27:55,604 and repeated allegations of misconduct. 2013 01:27:55,638 --> 01:27:59,041 Those same critics also ask why the Justice Department, 2014 01:27:59,074 --> 01:28:01,544 to this day, still refuses to release 2015 01:28:01,577 --> 01:28:03,346 thousands of documents, 2016 01:28:03,379 --> 01:28:04,813 including the results of an internal 2017 01:28:04,847 --> 01:28:07,383 DOJ investigation of the case, 2018 01:28:07,416 --> 01:28:09,385 a report the defense attorneys say 2019 01:28:09,418 --> 01:28:11,487 would reveal the rampant misconduct 2020 01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:13,522 by numerous DOJ officials. 2021 01:28:13,556 --> 01:28:15,524 (gloomy music) 2022 01:28:15,558 --> 01:28:20,529 - I wrote to President Obama and to the Attorney General, 2023 01:28:20,563 --> 01:28:23,566 pointed out the travesty of justice. 2024 01:28:24,700 --> 01:28:26,502 I have not heard a word from them on it, 2025 01:28:26,535 --> 01:28:29,338 not that they owed me a response, 2026 01:28:29,372 --> 01:28:33,075 but I thought that the gravity of the injustice 2027 01:28:34,109 --> 01:28:35,310 of this case 2028 01:28:36,545 --> 01:28:38,481 merited some correction 2029 01:28:42,485 --> 01:28:44,687 by the White House and we haven't seen it 2030 01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:47,723 and I'm bitterly disappointed by it. 2031 01:28:49,392 --> 01:28:50,526 - [Narrator] During the House investigation into the matter, 2032 01:28:50,559 --> 01:28:54,096 an email surfaced from an unidentified federal prosecutor 2033 01:28:54,129 --> 01:28:57,466 sent to Rob Riley who was working on his father's campaign. 2034 01:28:57,500 --> 01:29:00,936 In the email, the sender complained that he had been, quote, 2035 01:29:00,969 --> 01:29:03,372 "thwarted" for beginning an investigation 2036 01:29:03,406 --> 01:29:04,973 into the Siegelman Administration. 2037 01:29:05,007 --> 01:29:07,543 That person also stated that it was, quote, 2038 01:29:07,576 --> 01:29:09,712 "frustrating for me and a small group 2039 01:29:09,745 --> 01:29:11,980 "of like-minded Conservative prosecutors 2040 01:29:12,014 --> 01:29:14,683 to, quote, "fight the tide in order to do the job 2041 01:29:14,717 --> 01:29:16,118 "we were sworn to do." 2042 01:29:16,151 --> 01:29:18,587 The question is why would a federal prosecutor 2043 01:29:18,621 --> 01:29:20,723 who began the Siegelman investigation 2044 01:29:20,756 --> 01:29:22,558 make such a plea to Rob Riley 2045 01:29:22,591 --> 01:29:25,928 unless they and the Rileys were united in their efforts 2046 01:29:25,961 --> 01:29:27,630 and the biggest question arises 2047 01:29:27,663 --> 01:29:30,599 why did this prosecutor plainly identify themselves 2048 01:29:30,633 --> 01:29:33,736 as a Conservative prosecutor to another Conservative 2049 01:29:33,769 --> 01:29:36,472 if politics were not involved? 2050 01:29:40,042 --> 01:29:42,645 (gentle music) 2051 01:29:44,580 --> 01:29:46,615 (clicking) 2052 01:29:53,021 --> 01:29:55,791 (solemn music) 2053 01:30:12,174 --> 01:30:15,778 - There was so many strains of wrongdoing 2054 01:30:16,745 --> 01:30:19,147 that I and a group of attorneys general 2055 01:30:19,181 --> 01:30:21,016 felt we should get involved, 2056 01:30:21,049 --> 01:30:22,785 we should do something about this. 2057 01:30:22,818 --> 01:30:25,721 So a committee, a bipartisan committee, 2058 01:30:25,754 --> 01:30:27,723 two Democrats, two Republican 2059 01:30:27,756 --> 01:30:28,657 together with Jeff Jeff Modisett, 2060 01:30:28,691 --> 01:30:30,859 the former attorney general of Indiana, 2061 01:30:30,893 --> 01:30:35,698 and Bob Stephan of Kansas and Grant Woods of Arizona, 2062 01:30:35,731 --> 01:30:38,867 we acted as a steering committee to try to reach out 2063 01:30:38,901 --> 01:30:40,669 to former attorneys general 2064 01:30:40,703 --> 01:30:42,705 to see if they would get involved 2065 01:30:42,738 --> 01:30:46,074 and indeed over the course of the investigation 2066 01:30:46,108 --> 01:30:49,144 and the prosecution and the litigation, 2067 01:30:49,177 --> 01:30:51,880 former attorneys general did a number of things. 2068 01:30:51,914 --> 01:30:54,983 There were briefs filed in the United States Supreme Court, 2069 01:30:55,017 --> 01:30:56,952 amicus curiae briefs. 2070 01:30:56,985 --> 01:30:59,788 One of those briefs got 91 2071 01:30:59,822 --> 01:31:02,625 former attorneys general to sign on 2072 01:31:02,658 --> 01:31:06,829 and a later brief got 113 former attorneys general. 2073 01:31:08,263 --> 01:31:10,699 Never before in the history of the country 2074 01:31:10,733 --> 01:31:13,201 have so many attorneys general chimed in 2075 01:31:13,235 --> 01:31:16,238 on an issue before the United States Supreme Court 2076 01:31:16,271 --> 01:31:18,106 and these were Democrats and Republicans, 2077 01:31:18,140 --> 01:31:20,643 Liberals and Conservatives, Moderates. 2078 01:31:20,676 --> 01:31:23,779 They represented virtually every state in the Union, 2079 01:31:23,812 --> 01:31:27,983 all united saying somebody's gotta look at this case. 2080 01:31:29,618 --> 01:31:31,887 - That's unprecedented in the history of the country. 2081 01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:34,657 Never happened before, won't happen again 2082 01:31:34,690 --> 01:31:38,627 and these are people who have spent their lives 2083 01:31:39,261 --> 01:31:41,196 enforcing the law, 2084 01:31:41,229 --> 01:31:44,099 being prosecutors for the most part, 2085 01:31:44,132 --> 01:31:47,002 being their state's top prosecutor 2086 01:31:47,035 --> 01:31:49,872 and yet all of them came together to say 2087 01:31:49,905 --> 01:31:52,641 what happened to Don Siegelman wasn't right 2088 01:31:52,675 --> 01:31:54,943 and you guys need to take a look at it. 2089 01:31:54,977 --> 01:31:57,880 So that should say a lot to people. 2090 01:32:00,649 --> 01:32:02,084 - [Narrator] Despite hundreds of letters 2091 01:32:02,117 --> 01:32:04,553 written by many of America's top legal minds 2092 01:32:04,587 --> 01:32:07,856 to members of Congress, the Supreme Court, the White House, 2093 01:32:07,890 --> 01:32:08,957 and the Department of Justice, 2094 01:32:08,991 --> 01:32:10,793 pleas have fallen on deaf ears 2095 01:32:10,826 --> 01:32:14,329 and no meaningful action has been taken. 2096 01:32:14,362 --> 01:32:17,766 - You have well over 100 former attorneys general 2097 01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:20,603 who have said that this isn't a crime, 2098 01:32:20,636 --> 01:32:22,771 13 New York Timed editorials, this isn't a crime, 2099 01:32:22,805 --> 01:32:24,907 Conservative commentator George Will, this isn't a crime, 2100 01:32:24,940 --> 01:32:27,843 Neil Cavuto on Fox News, this isn't a crime. 2101 01:32:27,876 --> 01:32:31,914 I mean, the echos are amazing that this isn't a crime 2102 01:32:31,947 --> 01:32:32,948 and people are flabbergasted 2103 01:32:32,981 --> 01:32:34,817 about how these gentlemen ended up in prison. 2104 01:32:34,850 --> 01:32:36,051 - [Narrator] After serving over five years 2105 01:32:36,084 --> 01:32:37,219 in federal prison, 2106 01:32:37,252 --> 01:32:39,187 former Alabama governor Don Siegelman 2107 01:32:39,221 --> 01:32:41,824 was released on February 8th, 2017 2108 01:32:41,857 --> 01:32:43,759 to home confinement for several months. 2109 01:32:43,792 --> 01:32:46,361 He will remain on probation until 2021. 2110 01:32:46,394 --> 01:32:47,630 - Here's what I do know. 2111 01:32:47,663 --> 01:32:50,766 I do know that I was innocent and the governor was innocent 2112 01:32:50,799 --> 01:32:53,035 and we both went to federal prison. 2113 01:32:53,068 --> 01:32:53,969 Why? 2114 01:32:54,002 --> 01:32:56,071 At the end of the day, why? 2115 01:32:56,104 --> 01:32:57,973 - Richard Scrushy spent six years, 2116 01:32:58,006 --> 01:33:00,709 almost six years in prison away from his family 2117 01:33:00,743 --> 01:33:02,310 and all he had to do was tell one lie 2118 01:33:02,344 --> 01:33:04,813 and he wouldn't have done one day in prison. 2119 01:33:04,847 --> 01:33:06,348 - You know, I'm taking away from my family 2120 01:33:06,381 --> 01:33:08,150 and my little ones and my wife 2121 01:33:08,183 --> 01:33:11,787 and just beat down and shamed and humiliated 2122 01:33:11,820 --> 01:33:14,757 and tortured for five years in a federal prison. 2123 01:33:14,790 --> 01:33:15,691 Come on. 2124 01:33:15,724 --> 01:33:17,092 Let me put you in some chains 2125 01:33:17,125 --> 01:33:19,728 and lock you up at about 2:30 in the morning 2126 01:33:19,762 --> 01:33:22,998 and let you and unhook you late that night, next night 2127 01:33:23,031 --> 01:33:25,901 and give you a bottle of water and that was it 2128 01:33:25,934 --> 01:33:27,369 and you call it what you want. 2129 01:33:27,402 --> 01:33:29,938 When you can't scratch your head, you can't turn, 2130 01:33:29,972 --> 01:33:33,108 you're sitting on a cold floor, you're freezing to death, 2131 01:33:33,141 --> 01:33:35,110 you're soaking wet because they made you stand out 2132 01:33:35,143 --> 01:33:37,012 in the rain in the middle of the winter, 2133 01:33:37,045 --> 01:33:38,814 marching you around with shotguns on you 2134 01:33:38,847 --> 01:33:41,349 and you tell me that's not torture, it's not harassment. 2135 01:33:41,383 --> 01:33:42,985 I can't event talk about some of the things 2136 01:33:43,018 --> 01:33:44,687 they put us through 2137 01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:46,822 and they put the governor through that kind of stuff. 2138 01:33:46,855 --> 01:33:49,925 I had one guard tell me one time "Listen, I tell you what." 2139 01:33:49,958 --> 01:33:51,026 I said "Sir, I'm very sick. 2140 01:33:51,059 --> 01:33:52,995 "I gotta get some medicine, you gotta help me out. 2141 01:33:53,028 --> 01:33:55,998 "I mean, I'm coughing, very sick and respiratory problem" 2142 01:33:56,031 --> 01:33:56,899 and he said "I tell you what, 2143 01:33:56,932 --> 01:33:57,465 "when you can't get up off that floor 2144 01:33:57,499 --> 01:33:59,768 "I'll call us a doctor. 2145 01:33:59,802 --> 01:34:02,304 "When you can't get up off that floor." 2146 01:34:02,337 --> 01:34:04,773 I mean all you can do is just pray. 2147 01:34:04,807 --> 01:34:06,408 Yeah, I haven't even opened the door 2148 01:34:06,441 --> 01:34:07,843 to what we went through. 2149 01:34:07,876 --> 01:34:10,979 If I told you, you know, it's some tough stuff 2150 01:34:11,013 --> 01:34:12,948 and I have to deal with that the rest of my life. 2151 01:34:12,981 --> 01:34:14,850 - [Narrator] Siegelman spent two lengthy periods 2152 01:34:14,883 --> 01:34:16,284 in solitary confinement. 2153 01:34:16,318 --> 01:34:17,986 One lasted 45 days 2154 01:34:18,020 --> 01:34:20,322 for speaking to a radio host on the phone. 2155 01:34:20,355 --> 01:34:22,791 Corrections department officials have forbidden him 2156 01:34:22,825 --> 01:34:25,027 from speaking with anyone from the media. 2157 01:34:25,060 --> 01:34:27,462 This 20-year pursuit to get Siegelman out of the way 2158 01:34:27,495 --> 01:34:29,064 has been staggering in scope 2159 01:34:29,097 --> 01:34:31,199 and a boon for lawyers and lobbyists. 2160 01:34:31,233 --> 01:34:34,136 The government spent an estimated $50 million plus 2161 01:34:34,169 --> 01:34:36,905 on multiple investigations and prosecutions. 2162 01:34:36,939 --> 01:34:39,742 To date, Don Siegelman has spent over $3 million 2163 01:34:39,775 --> 01:34:40,943 in his defense, 2164 01:34:40,976 --> 01:34:42,711 not to mention the attorney fees incurred 2165 01:34:42,745 --> 01:34:44,813 by his codefendants and hundreds of others 2166 01:34:44,847 --> 01:34:46,414 questioned along he way. 2167 01:34:46,448 --> 01:34:49,985 The Choctaws paid Abramoff and Scanlon over $20 million 2168 01:34:50,018 --> 01:34:51,920 to defeat the education lottery fund 2169 01:34:51,954 --> 01:34:53,789 and then to oust Siegelman 2170 01:34:53,822 --> 01:34:56,224 before he could enter national politics. 2171 01:34:56,258 --> 01:34:59,027 An election was stolen after 6,000 votes 2172 01:34:59,061 --> 01:35:01,897 mysteriously disappeared in the middle of the night. 2173 01:35:01,930 --> 01:35:05,000 Those ballots, obtained by Rove client Bill Pryor 2174 01:35:05,033 --> 01:35:07,069 have never been seen or counted. 2175 01:35:07,102 --> 01:35:10,438 Pryor also initiated a four-year baseless investigation 2176 01:35:10,472 --> 01:35:12,440 of Siegelman that found nothing. 2177 01:35:12,474 --> 01:35:14,042 Charges brought by Pryor 2178 01:35:14,076 --> 01:35:16,078 and another Rove protege Alice Martin 2179 01:35:16,111 --> 01:35:19,281 were described by the judge as the most baseless prosecution 2180 01:35:19,314 --> 01:35:23,051 he had seen in his almost 30 years on the federal bench. 2181 01:35:23,085 --> 01:35:24,419 Federal prosecutor Leura Canary, 2182 01:35:24,452 --> 01:35:27,189 wife of the campaign manager of Siegelman's opponent 2183 01:35:27,222 --> 01:35:28,924 and Rove partner, 2184 01:35:28,957 --> 01:35:31,093 then kicked another federal investigation into high gear 2185 01:35:31,126 --> 01:35:33,228 and then lied about her recusal. 2186 01:35:33,261 --> 01:35:34,997 Canary's indictment of Siegelman 2187 01:35:35,030 --> 01:35:36,498 marked the first time in the history 2188 01:35:36,531 --> 01:35:38,000 of American jurisprudence 2189 01:35:38,033 --> 01:35:41,069 that a properly recorded non-profit contribution 2190 01:35:41,103 --> 01:35:43,271 was considered a form of bribery. 2191 01:35:43,305 --> 01:35:45,107 Canary and other Rove associates 2192 01:35:45,140 --> 01:35:47,242 strategically planned the trial to occur 2193 01:35:47,275 --> 01:35:49,444 so that prosecutors could publicly accuse 2194 01:35:49,477 --> 01:35:52,981 Siegelman of bribery and leak false allegations to the press 2195 01:35:53,015 --> 01:35:54,249 just before an election. 2196 01:35:54,282 --> 01:35:56,084 Stephen Faega and Louis Franklin 2197 01:35:56,118 --> 01:35:59,087 committed multiple forms of prosecutorial misconduct 2198 01:35:59,121 --> 01:36:01,990 when they scripted Nick Bailey's prepared testimony 2199 01:36:02,024 --> 01:36:04,927 during an unheard of 100 plus meetings with him. 2200 01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:08,130 They illegally withheld Bailey's notes from those meetings 2201 01:36:08,163 --> 01:36:10,899 when they should have been admitted as evidence. 2202 01:36:10,933 --> 01:36:13,501 Franklin and Faega also threatened Bailey for years 2203 01:36:13,535 --> 01:36:15,570 to falsely testify against Siegelman 2204 01:36:15,603 --> 01:36:17,505 or face a lengthy prison sentence, 2205 01:36:17,539 --> 01:36:20,508 untruthful testimony that the DOJ officials knew 2206 01:36:20,542 --> 01:36:22,044 would lead to a conviction. 2207 01:36:22,077 --> 01:36:24,279 Faega and Franklin also threatened 2208 01:36:24,312 --> 01:36:26,148 multiple witnesses to lie on the stand 2209 01:36:26,181 --> 01:36:27,883 or face prosecution, 2210 01:36:27,916 --> 01:36:30,052 some of which were later tried and convicted 2211 01:36:30,085 --> 01:36:32,420 under similarly specious circumstances. 2212 01:36:32,454 --> 01:36:34,923 Rove associates arranged for a hanging judge 2213 01:36:34,957 --> 01:36:37,059 and Siegelman political foe Mark Fuller 2214 01:36:37,092 --> 01:36:37,993 to be assigned to the case, 2215 01:36:38,026 --> 01:36:40,262 a judge so crooked that he was eventually 2216 01:36:40,295 --> 01:36:43,565 forced off the bench for perjury and domestic violence. 2217 01:36:43,598 --> 01:36:45,600 When the prosecution rested their case, 2218 01:36:45,633 --> 01:36:48,904 Fuller's company was quietly awarded a government contract 2219 01:36:48,937 --> 01:36:51,073 for a whopping $178 million, 2220 01:36:52,474 --> 01:36:54,176 a contract that could have easily been arranged 2221 01:36:54,209 --> 01:36:56,611 by Rove or other White House officials. 2222 01:36:56,644 --> 01:36:59,581 After the trial, emails emerged showing that jurors 2223 01:36:59,614 --> 01:37:02,084 inappropriately tried to convince other jurors 2224 01:37:02,117 --> 01:37:04,519 to vote guilty before all the evidence had been presented, 2225 01:37:04,552 --> 01:37:07,122 however, Fuller demanded that both sides 2226 01:37:07,155 --> 01:37:09,958 do nothing to determine their authenticity. 2227 01:37:09,992 --> 01:37:11,960 Later, a letter from the Justice Department 2228 01:37:11,994 --> 01:37:14,930 admitted that prosecutors defied the judge's order 2229 01:37:14,963 --> 01:37:16,431 to not look into the emails. 2230 01:37:16,464 --> 01:37:19,067 Then prosecutors actually met with Judge Fuller, 2231 01:37:19,101 --> 01:37:20,969 but without the defense present. 2232 01:37:21,003 --> 01:37:23,105 That ex-parte communication could have easily 2233 01:37:23,138 --> 01:37:24,106 brought about a mistrial. 2234 01:37:24,139 --> 01:37:26,308 However, the letter was strategically submitted 2235 01:37:26,341 --> 01:37:28,110 to the defense when Siegelman 2236 01:37:28,143 --> 01:37:30,112 could no longer use it in an appeal. 2237 01:37:30,145 --> 01:37:32,214 In 2008, Tamarah Grimes, 2238 01:37:32,247 --> 01:37:34,182 a paralegal working with the prosecution, 2239 01:37:34,216 --> 01:37:35,550 blew the whistle on what went on 2240 01:37:35,583 --> 01:37:37,152 behind the prosecution's doors 2241 01:37:37,185 --> 01:37:39,521 and confirmed what everyone knew all along, 2242 01:37:39,554 --> 01:37:42,090 Canary, in fact, continued her involvement 2243 01:37:42,124 --> 01:37:43,992 despite her so-called recusal, 2244 01:37:44,026 --> 01:37:46,428 Franklin and Faega strongly pressured Nick Bailey 2245 01:37:46,461 --> 01:37:48,030 to falsify his testimony, 2246 01:37:48,063 --> 01:37:50,298 and the prosecution inappropriately communicated 2247 01:37:50,332 --> 01:37:53,168 directly with a juror during and after the trial. 2248 01:37:53,201 --> 01:37:56,204 All represent strong ground to overturn the verdict. 2249 01:37:56,238 --> 01:37:58,473 Then former Rover associate Jill Simpson 2250 01:37:58,506 --> 01:38:01,376 testified before Congress that before Siegelman's trial, 2251 01:38:01,409 --> 01:38:03,411 Rove business partner Bill Canary 2252 01:38:03,445 --> 01:38:05,247 told her that, quote, "his girls" 2253 01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:06,514 would take care of Siegelman 2254 01:38:06,548 --> 01:38:08,150 and that's exactly what Alice Martin 2255 01:38:08,183 --> 01:38:09,617 and his wife Leura Canary did 2256 01:38:09,651 --> 01:38:12,354 when they both indicted Siegelman in separate cases. 2257 01:38:12,387 --> 01:38:16,124 Simpson also said that Siegelman's opponent's son Rob Riley 2258 01:38:16,158 --> 01:38:18,393 would have Mark Fuller assigned to the case, 2259 01:38:18,426 --> 01:38:23,265 and that he was, quote, "willing to hang Siegelman." 2260 01:38:23,298 --> 01:38:25,233 As Siegelman sat in federal prison, 2261 01:38:25,267 --> 01:38:28,603 Rove and the RNC paid millions to Eric Holder's law firm, 2262 01:38:28,636 --> 01:38:31,039 Covington and Burling, to convince lawmakers 2263 01:38:31,073 --> 01:38:33,575 and Justice Department officials to turn a blind eye 2264 01:38:33,608 --> 01:38:36,244 to their overwhelming levels of corruption they committed 2265 01:38:36,278 --> 01:38:38,680 regarding the missing emails, the attorney firings, 2266 01:38:38,713 --> 01:38:40,248 and the Siegelman case. 2267 01:38:40,282 --> 01:38:42,384 After Holder became head of the Justice Department, 2268 01:38:42,417 --> 01:38:45,553 he continued serving his clients instead of serving justice 2269 01:38:45,587 --> 01:38:47,589 by shutting down multiple investigations 2270 01:38:47,622 --> 01:38:49,958 into Rove's scandals so that no charges 2271 01:38:49,992 --> 01:38:53,161 were ever brought against Rove or other Covington clients. 2272 01:38:53,195 --> 01:38:54,396 Despite the 20 years of countless 2273 01:38:54,429 --> 01:38:57,299 Justice Department man hours, corrupt political dealings, 2274 01:38:57,332 --> 01:38:59,434 stolen votes, trumped up charges, 2275 01:38:59,467 --> 01:39:02,204 millions in legal expenses, a rigged court, 2276 01:39:02,237 --> 01:39:05,240 massive prosecutorial misconduct, judicial abuse, 2277 01:39:05,273 --> 01:39:09,277 recusal lies, false testimony, secret government contracts, 2278 01:39:09,311 --> 01:39:13,115 shady deals, juror misconduct, and the subversion of justice 2279 01:39:13,148 --> 01:39:15,083 committed by Rove and the many others 2280 01:39:15,117 --> 01:39:17,019 to carry out this malicious prosecution 2281 01:39:17,052 --> 01:39:18,286 and wrongful conviction, 2282 01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:20,322 Siegelman was never recused or convicted 2283 01:39:20,355 --> 01:39:23,225 of putting one penny in his pocket. 2284 01:39:23,258 --> 01:39:25,327 This overwhelming injustice has remained covered up 2285 01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:27,996 for over a decade now and the people that perpetrated 2286 01:39:28,030 --> 01:39:30,232 this fraud on the court have never so much 2287 01:39:30,265 --> 01:39:32,534 as been questioned, much less held accountable. 2288 01:39:32,567 --> 01:39:34,636 In fact, most of them have moved on 2289 01:39:34,669 --> 01:39:38,173 or maintained very powerful positions. 2290 01:39:38,206 --> 01:39:40,242 As head of the Business Council of Alabama, 2291 01:39:40,275 --> 01:39:43,178 Bill Canary can forcibly influence legislation 2292 01:39:43,211 --> 01:39:46,114 because his lobbying firm provides so many candidates 2293 01:39:46,148 --> 01:39:49,351 with the campaign funds they need to remain in office. 2294 01:39:49,384 --> 01:39:51,286 Leura Canary remained federal prosecutor 2295 01:39:51,319 --> 01:39:53,655 for three more years under Eric Holder 2296 01:39:53,688 --> 01:39:55,290 and the Obama Administration 2297 01:39:55,323 --> 01:39:58,193 where she continued to indict many Republican foes. 2298 01:39:58,226 --> 01:39:59,394 She's now the General Counsel 2299 01:39:59,427 --> 01:40:01,596 for the Retirement Systems of Alabama. 2300 01:40:01,629 --> 01:40:05,200 - When your government goes awry, 2301 01:40:05,233 --> 01:40:08,570 goes crazy and does not follow the Constitution, 2302 01:40:08,603 --> 01:40:11,306 then justice is not served. 2303 01:40:11,339 --> 01:40:12,640 - [Narrator] Several months after certifying 2304 01:40:12,674 --> 01:40:15,143 that 2002 election two days early, 2305 01:40:15,177 --> 01:40:18,246 Rove client and former Alabama attorney general Bill Pryor 2306 01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:21,183 was appointed to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals 2307 01:40:21,216 --> 01:40:23,318 where Siegelman lost two separate cases. 2308 01:40:23,351 --> 01:40:25,387 Although Pryor was not assigned to either case, 2309 01:40:25,420 --> 01:40:29,224 both three-judge panels were a Republican majority. 2310 01:40:29,257 --> 01:40:31,326 - Bill Pryor, in my experience with him, 2311 01:40:31,359 --> 01:40:33,695 was a complete partisan hack, frankly, 2312 01:40:33,728 --> 01:40:34,762 and that was very unusual. 2313 01:40:34,796 --> 01:40:35,963 He stood out. 2314 01:40:35,997 --> 01:40:38,833 I'm saying as a Republican I would feel very comfortable 2315 01:40:38,866 --> 01:40:41,669 voting for Richard Pryor over Bill Pryor. 2316 01:40:41,703 --> 01:40:43,405 - [Narrator] Former governor Bob Riley 2317 01:40:43,438 --> 01:40:45,340 runs Riley and Associates, 2318 01:40:45,373 --> 01:40:47,342 another large Alabama lobbying firm 2319 01:40:47,375 --> 01:40:50,245 that funds many Republican political campaigns, 2320 01:40:50,278 --> 01:40:53,348 including all members of the Alabama Supreme Court. 2321 01:40:53,381 --> 01:40:57,085 As attorneys, Rob Riley and his sister Minda Riley Campbell 2322 01:40:57,119 --> 01:40:59,754 have been awarded no bid contracts for the state of Alabama 2323 01:40:59,787 --> 01:41:01,423 as well as representing others 2324 01:41:01,456 --> 01:41:03,591 seeking a political advantage. 2325 01:41:03,625 --> 01:41:06,228 Stephen Faega left the prosecutor's office 2326 01:41:06,261 --> 01:41:07,795 and now serves as Deputy Director 2327 01:41:07,829 --> 01:41:09,397 of Enforcement and Prosecution 2328 01:41:09,431 --> 01:41:12,200 for the Alabama Securities Commission. 2329 01:41:12,234 --> 01:41:13,435 - What can you do? 2330 01:41:13,468 --> 01:41:14,269 You can't give a man his life back. 2331 01:41:14,302 --> 01:41:16,304 These people should be prosecuted. 2332 01:41:16,338 --> 01:41:17,472 They should go to jail. 2333 01:41:17,505 --> 01:41:19,274 They should lose their law licenses. 2334 01:41:19,307 --> 01:41:20,508 They should be punished. 2335 01:41:20,542 --> 01:41:23,311 - [Narrator] Louis Franklin is still a federal prosecutor 2336 01:41:23,345 --> 01:41:25,513 and continues to maintain close associations 2337 01:41:25,547 --> 01:41:27,282 with Bill and Leura Canary. 2338 01:41:27,315 --> 01:41:29,351 Unsurprisingly, he's never acknowledged 2339 01:41:29,384 --> 01:41:32,220 any prosecutorial misconduct in the Siegelman case. 2340 01:41:32,254 --> 01:41:33,755 - We expect more than that 2341 01:41:33,788 --> 01:41:36,191 of prosecutors in the United States of America. 2342 01:41:36,224 --> 01:41:37,459 We're better than that. 2343 01:41:37,492 --> 01:41:40,395 We're supposed to be the best and generally we are the best. 2344 01:41:40,428 --> 01:41:43,298 In this case, we were the worst. 2345 01:41:43,331 --> 01:41:44,266 - [Narrator] Since coming forward, 2346 01:41:44,299 --> 01:41:47,235 Jill Simpson has endured significant hardships. 2347 01:41:47,269 --> 01:41:49,471 The Alabama State Bar placed her on disability 2348 01:41:49,504 --> 01:41:52,374 and she's been the target of multiple attacks. 2349 01:41:52,407 --> 01:41:54,442 - The initial two attacks were 2350 01:41:54,476 --> 01:41:58,446 she's driving along the road and SUV comes up to her side. 2351 01:41:59,847 --> 01:42:02,617 She does go off the road, car overturns, 2352 01:42:02,650 --> 01:42:05,420 and she was injured but survived. 2353 01:42:07,522 --> 01:42:11,293 Second attack was a fire bombing of her home, 2354 01:42:11,959 --> 01:42:14,229 which again she survived. 2355 01:42:15,497 --> 01:42:16,864 - [Narrator] George Beck, the attorney that arranged 2356 01:42:16,898 --> 01:42:19,467 for Bailey to testify against Siegelman and Scrushy 2357 01:42:19,501 --> 01:42:22,404 and said to be in possession of Nick Bailey's missing notes, 2358 01:42:22,437 --> 01:42:25,540 was selected by the Obama Administration and Eric Holder 2359 01:42:25,573 --> 01:42:28,510 to replace Leura Canary as Federal Prosecutor 2360 01:42:28,543 --> 01:42:31,513 for the Middle District of Alabama. 2361 01:42:31,546 --> 01:42:34,182 - Given what we now know about the case 2362 01:42:34,216 --> 01:42:36,951 and all that went wrong, all of the misconduct, 2363 01:42:36,984 --> 01:42:39,587 why the government would continue to try and shield them 2364 01:42:39,621 --> 01:42:43,458 and retain and withhold their documents 2365 01:42:43,491 --> 01:42:46,228 after all that's been publicly disclosed already 2366 01:42:46,261 --> 01:42:48,530 is something that's just truly astonishing to me. 2367 01:42:48,563 --> 01:42:49,897 - [Narrator] A few days after the trial, 2368 01:42:49,931 --> 01:42:52,900 juror Katie Flipper Langer reached out to prosecutors 2369 01:42:52,934 --> 01:42:54,001 with a request. 2370 01:42:54,035 --> 01:42:56,804 She decided to trade in her leotard for law books 2371 01:42:56,838 --> 01:42:58,473 and enrolled in law school. 2372 01:42:58,506 --> 01:43:00,508 She's now an Alabama state prosecutor 2373 01:43:00,542 --> 01:43:03,578 working with colleagues Matt Hart and Keith Baker. 2374 01:43:03,611 --> 01:43:05,747 Alabama Attorney General Luther Strange, 2375 01:43:05,780 --> 01:43:08,483 who accepted Poarch Creek casino campaign cash 2376 01:43:08,516 --> 01:43:11,553 just before shutting down Victoryland, got a promotion. 2377 01:43:11,586 --> 01:43:13,621 He was selected by then governor Bob Bentley 2378 01:43:13,655 --> 01:43:16,258 to replace Jeff Sessions in Washington. 2379 01:43:16,291 --> 01:43:18,693 He's now addressed as Senator Strange. 2380 01:43:18,726 --> 01:43:21,296 - They killed the lottery by indicting Siegelman, 2381 01:43:21,329 --> 01:43:25,533 they got Siegelman put in prison, the Choctaw Indians, 2382 01:43:25,567 --> 01:43:28,403 and they put this formula together 2383 01:43:29,604 --> 01:43:33,908 and it was to make money through political power. 2384 01:43:33,941 --> 01:43:36,711 As Tom Jones said in the infamous movie 2385 01:43:36,744 --> 01:43:40,482 in his song What's New Pussycat, it is there. 2386 01:43:41,616 --> 01:43:42,817 - [Narrator] Thanks to Eric Holder, 2387 01:43:42,850 --> 01:43:44,919 Karl Rove has never been questioned under oath 2388 01:43:44,952 --> 01:43:46,421 regarding the attorney firings, 2389 01:43:46,454 --> 01:43:49,524 the missing RNC emails, or the Siegelman case 2390 01:43:49,557 --> 01:43:51,593 and has never publicly denied his role 2391 01:43:51,626 --> 01:43:52,594 in any of the scandals. 2392 01:43:52,627 --> 01:43:55,263 However, he was asked about his involvement 2393 01:43:55,297 --> 01:43:57,665 in the Siegelman by George Stephanopoulos. 2394 01:43:57,699 --> 01:43:59,000 - To be clear, you did not contact 2395 01:43:59,033 --> 01:44:00,201 the Justice Department about this case? 2396 01:44:00,234 --> 01:44:03,605 - I read about, I'm gonna simply say what I said before, 2397 01:44:03,638 --> 01:44:06,541 which is I found about Don Siegelman's investigation 2398 01:44:06,574 --> 01:44:08,376 and indictment by reading about it in the newspaper. 2399 01:44:08,410 --> 01:44:09,844 - [George] But that's not a denial. 2400 01:44:09,877 --> 01:44:11,646 - I've, you know... 2401 01:44:12,847 --> 01:44:15,583 (dramatic music) 184323

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