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- [Crowd] Four more years!
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Four more years!
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Four more years!
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Four more years!
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Four more years!
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Four more years!
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Four more years!
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- Going into the election in '02
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we knew it was going
to be a close race.
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On election night, we were
in the war room of sorts
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that we had set up to track
results as they came in
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from a network of people we
had throughout the state.
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We were taking in the
numbers all night long.
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- On that election
night I was assigned
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to the Riley campaign
in Talladega.
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That's where we
were covering it.
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The Riley campaign and
all of their supporters
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were gathered in this
room, in this arena,
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watching those numbers,
cheering sometimes,
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going quiet sometimes.
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- When we had the
complete state in,
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we realized we'd pulled it off.
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We'd won.
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Shortly thereafter,
Associated Press, AP,
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called the race and
CNN called the race.
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It was over.
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It was done.
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- And then Don
Siegelman comes out
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and essentially claims
victory in this race.
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- The voters have spoken.
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We're gonna move
this state forward
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by investing in education
and giving every child,
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every single child in this state
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a chance to reach their
God-given potential.
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- Dad gets elected
governor again
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and we went back down
there and Dad's so happy.
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Oh my gosh, my
children are back.
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They like got out
of bed for this
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and so we all got to go
onstage and celebrate.
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- How sweet it is!
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- Everybody went
quiet for awhile
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and then the Riley
campaign came out and spoke
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briefly and said
we're still watching,
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we're still monitoring,
but it's too soon to tell.
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We'll see ya tomorrow and we're
gonna call it a night here.
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- Siegelman had
won the re-election
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and then we started getting
word about something
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that's taking place
in Baldwin County.
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(dramatic music)
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- Our criminal justice
system, when it goes wrong,
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can go wrong horrendously.
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- Should the
prosecutors be in jail?
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Yes, they should be in jail.
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- That's mind boggling.
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Well we know she's lying.
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- The government
spared no resource.
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We had to do what we
could to make sure
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he wasn't re-elected
because he was
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an ongoing threat to our client.
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- Lo and behold, they
started to manipulate
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the criminal justice system.
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- One purpose here and
that was to keep that man
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from being the governor
of the state of Alabama.
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- Here is what we call
a fraud on the courts.
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- No doubt in my mind that
Don Siegelman was roved.
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- They had to get rid of him
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because they couldn't
beat him fair and square.
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- They can't get to
the jury, but they did.
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- I am mad.
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I wanna get somebody's
neck in my hands.
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- It's one of the great
injustices of our time.
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- God bless the great
state of Alabama.
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- This is one of
the most egregious
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miscarriages of justice
that I've encountered.
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- There's something
wrong in Alabama.
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- This situation cries
out for the correction
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of an injustice.
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(gentle music)
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- Key in that whole
play is the vote
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in one of the most
Republican counties
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in the state of
Alabama, Baldwin County.
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Something very strange occurred
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in the course of the
election night there,
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resulting in a fairly
dramatic shift in the vote.
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- I was the Chairman of the
Baldwin County Democratic Party
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and one of the duties at that
time that I was in office
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was to go to, on election night,
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go to Bay Minnette
for election returns.
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Around 10:45, we got
the first printout
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that showed John
Sophocleus had received
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more votes than Don Siegelman.
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There's this huge
red flag goes up
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that this number couldn't
possibly be right.
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- [Narrator] As a Democrat,
Siegelman was not expected
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to win this heavily
Republican county.
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In past elections,
Democrats usually got
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about 40% of the vote and
third-party candidates
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received only a few
hundred votes for governor.
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However, these results showed
that Libertarian candidate
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John Sophocleus received
over 13,000 votes,
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signaling an obvious mistake.
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- We brought that
to the attention
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of the Sheriff's Department
and they immediately agreed
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that something must be wrong.
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So about 11:00,
one of the deputies
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brought us a new printout
that was supposed
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to be the corrected results.
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Under those totals that
we were told were correct,
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Don Siegelman would
have won the election.
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- [Narrator] This
seemingly correct result
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adjusted the Libertarian
candidates total to 937,
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increased Governor
Siegelman's vote count
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to just over 19,000 and
marginally increased
Riley's votes.
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These corrected totals
were then consistent
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with results from
previous years.
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Although Siegelman wasn't
expected to win the county,
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it was enough votes statewide
to win the election.
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- That set of numbers is the
one that it was given to me.
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It was given to the
Republican party chairman.
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It was given to the
representative from the AP
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and those were the
numbers that we left with.
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This is supposed to
be the correct total.
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This is what's going
to be certified later,
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so we got our printouts
and we all left
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shortly after 11:00,
including it appeared that
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most of the Sheriff Department
staff was leaving as well.
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They were locking up the
building for the night
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and we thought
that the election,
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at least for Baldwin
County, was over.
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By the time I got home,
it was close to midnight.
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As I'm watching the TV,
the AP wire is calling
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the election for Siegelman.
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- I would guess around 11
or so, just from my memory,
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Rob Riley came out
and I was live.
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I had a wireless
microphone and I was just
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roaming around and a
photographer from a distance
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and Rob Riley came out
and looked at me and said
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"Rick, you want a story?"
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- [Man] Due to the fact that
the media has been reporting
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what we can now confirm as
a 6,000 vote discrepancy,
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the numbers simply don't add up.
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- We win this race
and at this point,
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it was off to the races.
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- We're going to fight until
we know what every vote is.
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(cheering)
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- I get on my computer and went
to the probate court website
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to see what results
had been posted there.
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The dispute is over a
third set of results
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that's been posted to
the probate court website
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that I've never seen before.
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There's time stamped
just a few minutes after
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the latest copy
that we had gotten
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that was supposed
to be accurate.
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- [Narrator] These mysterious
new third set of totals
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were never seen
by party officials
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to validate their authenticity.
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They just simply appeared on
the probate court's website.
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- I remember having
almost like a sick feeling
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in my stomach, like something
serious is going on here.
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This isn't just a minor glitch.
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This is serious.
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This is going to change
the result of the election.
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- [Narrator] In fact,
these new results
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didn't change the
totals of either Riley
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or the third-party candidate
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and no other race on
the ballot was affected.
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The only change was that
just over 6,300 votes
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from Governor Siegelman's
column simply disappeared.
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These new, unverified
set of results
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switched the winner over
from Governor Siegelman
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to Republican Bob Riley.
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- Complete bullshit is what
anybody else would say,
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but it just that doesn't happen.
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This was an issue over
we say the vote changed
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and we've locked everything up
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and nobody can look at it.
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- That third set of numbers,
according to the time stamp,
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those numbers were
generated right after
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the numbers that we were given.
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I don't know how in
two minutes' time
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a new set of numbers
was produced.
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- And sometime during
the dark of night,
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two individuals went
into the courthouse
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and came back out and
announced the vote had changed
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and it had changed just
enough to change the outcome
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of the governor's race.
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- [Narrator] According
to numerous reports,
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Bob Riley's Chief
of Staff Dan Gans
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had been seen at the same
voting precinct with a laptop
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along with Riley political
consultant George Burger.
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Both men had been trained
by the voting software
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manufacturer and
professional claimed
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to be voting technology experts.
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- That morning, I'm
heading up to Bay Minette
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and when we got there,
the canvasing board,
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they were all locked in
Adrian Johns' office.
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They went in there.
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They weren't letting
anyone in to talk to them
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and they were
apparently deciding
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what they were going to
do about the situation.
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The canvassing board was made
up of three local officials.
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It was Jackie Calhoun,
who was the circuit clerk,
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Marvin Ussery who was with
the Sheriff's Department
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and then you had Adrian
Johns, the probate judge.
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Those were the three
people in Adrian's office.
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I can tell you that they
had locked the doors
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and nobody could go in.
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They were locked in
there from the time
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that I got to the courthouse,
which was early that morning,
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until minutes
before they went out
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and announced the certification
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and so I handed them a copy
of the statute that said
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certification is supposed
to be on Friday at noon.
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They'd have no part of it
and they were locked in
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and this is what we're gonna do
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and we're not gonna discuss it.
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We're gonna certify
these results right now
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and they turned and just
walked out of the room.
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- Siegelman had
received 12,736 votes.
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Bob Riley received 31,052 votes.
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- These numbers were certified
after no one was there
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from any political party.
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The statute says you
certify at noon on Friday,
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but suddenly on this one
race, this one election,
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they've decided that
they're going to certify
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on Wednesday morning instead.
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- I'm not convinced
that there is a problem
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with the software.
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It's something that
we need to look at
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and talk with Mr.
Kelley about from our
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election vendor company.
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- [Narrator] Despite
acknowledging potential software
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problems and the fact that
three different results
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all came from only one data set,
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Judge Johns and the
other election officials
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all Republican Riley supporters,
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defied state law and certified
the results two days early
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to make them official.
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Moments later, the Republican
Attorney General, Bill Pryor,
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issued a warning to anyone
trying to initiate a recount.
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- Before the doors
opened the next morning,
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the Republican Attorney
General has issued
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an AG's opinion basically
saying he'd lock
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anybody up that tried
to count the votes.
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- A recount count
of sealed material
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cannot occur without
a court order
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and a finding that a
voting machine or precinct
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failed to make a return.
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- [Narrator] Attorney General
Pryor quickly obtained
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those ballots and results to
be kept in his possession.
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- You would expect
someone to at least
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look at the votes
publicly and show
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what the tally
was, what happened.
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That's never occurred.
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Those ballots were
locked up, put under seal
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and to this day no one has
ever seen those ballots
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and no one has ever
questioned the individuals
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who went in and said
the vote changed.
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I've never seen anyone
so adamantly opposed
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to counting votes.
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But that's what took place.
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- It's not only has he
said the people's ballot
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will not be counted,
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the only evidence of
the people's choice,
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he has now said to the public
officials of this state,
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if you do it, if you do it,
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you're gonna be put in jail.
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Our public officials
want to do what's right.
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- [Narrator] A recount
would seen obvious,
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however, the early
certification eliminated
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the possibility
for that to happen.
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- In case you have not heard,
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Baldwin County just
came out and certified
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the election results
and they are...
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Don Sielgelman 12,736.
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Riley 31,050.
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(cheering)
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- The two sets of returns from
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this gubernatorial election
between Sielgelman and Riley,
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I dove into those
anomalies to see
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if I could figure out
what was going on.
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When certain patterns show up,
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it begins to show
probably source
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of the anomaly in the data.
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- [Narrator] James Gundlach,
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a former professor
at Auburn University,
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performed a statistical
analysis of the vote totals.
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The resulting paper, which
had been peer reviewed
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by professors at MIT,
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clearly show that a
fraud had taken place.
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- The first set of results,
statistically, are normal.
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You look at the second
sets and you see how
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the blue dot for Baldwin
County is way off the line.
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That's saying Baldwin
County results
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are statistically abnormal.
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- When you went from
the first set of numbers
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to the second set of numbers
there were several changes,
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although the biggest changes
were in the governor's race.
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When you go from the second
set to the third set,
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you would assume that
there would be changes
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in several races again,
but there weren't.
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The only place you
saw any difference
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from the second set
to the third set
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was in the governor's race.
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In this case, you had the
shift of just enough votes
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to change the outcome of
the election statewide.
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- My lawyers tell
me that we've got
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an excellent chance
to win because the law
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is on our side.
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- If it went to the
Alabama Supreme Court,
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then it's going to be
heard by Republican judges.
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If it gets all the way to the
United States Supreme Court,
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it's gonna be heard
by the same justices
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that had just ruled against
Al Gore two years earlier.
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So the odds of success
through all of that
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were probably pretty low.
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- And every step
would mean a lawsuit.
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Every question would
mean a new court battle.
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A look at the voter's list?
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Back in court.
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An examination of the ballots?
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Another lawsuit.
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To find out what really
happened in Baldwin County,
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we would be back in court.
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- The data patterns
and the data show clear
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data manipulation that stole
the election from Siegelman.
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- [Narrator] Sometime
after the election,
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Riley Chief of Staff, Dan Gans,
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who had been seen at the
Baldwin County office
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on that fateful
night with a laptop,
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went on to work for the
Alexander Strategy Group,
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a lobbying firm associated
with convicted lobbyist
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Jack Abramoff.
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Multiple reports have
said that his bio
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on their now-defunct
website stated that he had,
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quote, "Implemented a state
of the art ballot security
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"program that was critical
to securing Governor-elect
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"Riley's narrow margin
of victory, 3,120 votes."
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- The people of Alabama
spoke last night.
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The only problem is the
governor did not wait
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until they stopped speaking.
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(cheering)
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- The substantial decline in
the percentage of the vote
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that went from Siegelman
from the county before
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to the county this time
and the fact that that
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significant decline
occurred when everybody
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was locked out of the voting,
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observing how the votes were
counted and other such things,
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if you're not
suspicious about that,
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you shouldn't be an adult.
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(chuckling)
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(gentle music)
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(clicking)
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(piano music)
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- We want people to know
that we're very proud
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of who our dad is.
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We're very proud of him
and what he represents.
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We want people to know
that we're his kids
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and that we stand by him
as much now, if not more,
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than we ever have in the past.
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- I am the father of
two wonderful children.
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We want them to have the
best opportunities in life
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and we know that the road
to those opportunities
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starts at the schoolhouse door,
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and they remind me
each and every day
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how great it is to be a dad.
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- Police chiefs, sheriffs
and district attorneys
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are for Don Siegelman because
he's helped them fight crime.
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- And he will fight
to get guns and drugs
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out of our schools.
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- We loved our dad and
he tried to give a voice
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to as many people who
he felt needed a voice
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and hadn't had a voice.
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He just loved people
and genuinely.
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It wasn't a fake sort
of I have to do this.
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It was an authentic
I get to do this.
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- Like so many of you,
my wife and I know
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firsthand the impact of crime.
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We were hit head-on by a
career criminal driving drunk.
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I almost lost my family.
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I remember holding
Laurie in my arms,
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waiting for the
ambulance to arrive,
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praying and wondering whether
she would live or die.
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Laurie and I saw our
criminal justice system
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more concerned with
processing criminals
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than protecting victim's rights.
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After only 48 hours,
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while Laurie was
still in God's hands,
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our assailant was
back on the streets.
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I make this pledge.
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I will work night and day
to make your families,
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your homes and your
communities safer.
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(uplifting music)
(applause)
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- He did something that
no elected official
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in the history of
the state ever did.
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He was elected to all four
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statewide constitutional
positions.
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He was elected
Secretary of State,
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Attorney General,
Lieutenant Governor.
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- And now I need your
help and vote on Tuesday.
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- [Bob] And Governor.
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- There's never been another
politician like Don Siegelman,
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and I'm talking
about George Wallace,
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whoever else you
wanna throw in there.
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You can talk to
anybody in this town,
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people that knew
Governor Wallace,
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who was as a relentless
and tireless campaigner.
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Those people will tell
you right up front
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that Don Siegelman was maybe
the greatest campaigner
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that has ever been in the
history of this state.
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Don Siegelman was relentless.
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- The time for talk is over.
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We need action.
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We need a constitutional
convention.
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We need to change
our tax structure.
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We need to invest in education,
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and I trust the people
do be able to do that.
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- Don Siegelman is a
hero to a lot of people.
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I walked the streets a few
times in Montgomery with Don
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and I've never seen
anything like it.
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They don't do that
for me in Phoenix.
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They don't pull over
and wave and come over
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and give you a hug and thank you
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for all you've done for us.
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It's people across the
board viewed him as a hero.
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- Don Siegelman was a
Clinton-esque figure.
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Matter of fact, he was
mentioned as potential
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candidate for President
of the United States.
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He was that good.
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- And anytime
you're in politics,
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if you're gonna
get something done,
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you gotta push
somebody occasionally,
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and he didn't mind pushing,
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but he always pushed
in the right direction.
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- So the Republicans
felt threatened
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as long as Don
Siegelman was around.
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Lo and behold, they
started to target him
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and to manipulate the
criminal justice system.
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(solemn music)
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- Don Siegelman ran for
governor on a platform
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that called for the approval
of a state-wide lottery
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and the proceeds
of the lottery were
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to go toward education.
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- An education
lottery is so critical
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to the future of Alabama.
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Only the people of
Alabama should have
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the right to decide.
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- Public education in Alabama
was not in good shape.
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Siegelman was committed
to changing it.
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We had looked closely at Georgia
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as our neighboring state on
how the lottery had almost
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single-handedly
transformed education.
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Suddenly pre-K was
available to everyone.
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Technology was in schools
and if you graduated
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with a good enough grade point,
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you went to college
on a scholarship.
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We wanted that in Alabama.
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- Adequacy is not good
enough for my children
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nor do I think it's good enough
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for the children of this state.
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The governor has argued
that portable classrooms
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are an adequate place
for people to learn.
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Number one, it's
not safe from fires.
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It would take about 60
seconds to burn down
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one of those
structures completely.
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- By having the approval
of this lottery,
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it would have changed the
status of the state of Alabama
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to such that the
tribe in the state
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would have been
able to legally game
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or have gambling
facilities in the state.
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- [Interviewer] I see, so
if the lottery education
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fund was passed,
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that automatically opened
the door to casinos?
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- Right, to tribal
gaming casinos there.
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- Obviously, if
Alabama had a lottery
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it would hurt Indian
tribes in Mississippi.
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Choctaw Indian tribe had a
big operation in Philadelphia
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about 50 miles from
the Alabama line
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and Choctaw Indians
gave a lot of money
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to Republican strategists
Abramoff and Scanlon.
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- [Narrator] Scanlon,
who had previously served
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as press secretary for
then Congressman Bob Riley,
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joined forces with
lobbyist Jack Abramoff.
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Their client, the Choctaw
Casino in Mississippi,
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secretly paid them $20 million,
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funneled through
various PACs to defeat
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Siegelman's education
lottery referendum,
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thus preventing any
possible competition
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from any new casinos
built in Alabama.
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- We expected the Indian
casinos in Mississippi
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to oppose the
lottery referendum,
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but what we didn't expect
was for there to be
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a secret network of
people pulled together
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to illegally funnel
this money into Alabama.
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There was a off-handed comment
that they had raised it
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at church bake sales,
but that didn't happen.
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- [Narrator] A U.S. Senate
committee investigation,
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headed by John McCain,
found that part of the money
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had been funneled through
501c4 organizations
500
00:22:10,897 --> 00:22:12,765
and eventually found
their way to grass roots
501
00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:15,568
lobbying campaigns led
by one of Abramoff's
502
00:22:15,602 --> 00:22:17,904
old friends, Ralph Reed.
503
00:22:17,937 --> 00:22:21,741
- Ralph and I got ouR cert
together in college Republicans,
504
00:22:21,774 --> 00:22:25,512
in the Republican party and
had spent our entire lives
505
00:22:25,545 --> 00:22:27,980
working to elect Republicans
and defeat Democrats.
506
00:22:28,014 --> 00:22:30,417
- [Narrator] Funded by the
Choctaws, Reed went to work
507
00:22:30,450 --> 00:22:32,585
on church-going voters
using a strategy
508
00:22:32,619 --> 00:22:34,454
that proved
incredibly effective,
509
00:22:34,487 --> 00:22:36,656
if not an outright
moral contradiction.
510
00:22:36,689 --> 00:22:38,758
In a document presented
during the Congressional
511
00:22:38,791 --> 00:22:40,627
investigation on Indian Affairs,
512
00:22:40,660 --> 00:22:42,962
lobbyist Michael Scanlon
spelled out their strategy
513
00:22:42,995 --> 00:22:44,997
in direct but not
so polite terms.
514
00:22:45,031 --> 00:22:47,700
"Simply put, we want
to bring out the wackos
515
00:22:47,734 --> 00:22:49,569
"to vote against
something and make sure
516
00:22:49,602 --> 00:22:51,538
"the rest of the public
lets the whole thing
517
00:22:51,571 --> 00:22:52,839
"slip past them.
518
00:22:52,872 --> 00:22:54,974
"The wackos get their
information from
the Christian right,
519
00:22:55,007 --> 00:22:57,577
"Christian radio,
mail, the Internet
520
00:22:57,610 --> 00:22:58,645
"and telephone trees."
521
00:22:58,678 --> 00:23:01,481
Over the years, Ralph
Reed and his organization
522
00:23:01,514 --> 00:23:02,782
had developed close associations
523
00:23:02,815 --> 00:23:04,584
with church
administrators throughout
524
00:23:04,617 --> 00:23:07,186
the southern states to
amass a vast database
525
00:23:07,219 --> 00:23:10,523
of personal information about
individual church members,
526
00:23:10,557 --> 00:23:13,125
the kind of highly
concentrated group of consumers
527
00:23:13,159 --> 00:23:15,562
that marketers only dream about.
528
00:23:15,595 --> 00:23:17,697
Using this list and
the marketing methods
529
00:23:17,730 --> 00:23:20,032
described by Scanlon,
Reed targeted Christian
530
00:23:20,066 --> 00:23:21,701
voters with a simple message,
531
00:23:21,734 --> 00:23:23,936
don't vote for the
education lottery fund
532
00:23:23,970 --> 00:23:26,439
because it contradicts
Christian values.
533
00:23:26,473 --> 00:23:28,875
Little did they know the
money behind the message
534
00:23:28,908 --> 00:23:30,443
was casino cash.
535
00:23:31,878 --> 00:23:33,713
To counter the
Abramoff-Reed campaign
536
00:23:33,746 --> 00:23:34,581
against the referendum,
537
00:23:34,614 --> 00:23:36,583
proponents of the
education lottery
538
00:23:36,616 --> 00:23:38,150
began their own
marketing efforts
539
00:23:38,184 --> 00:23:41,187
and created the first of two
non-profit organizations.
540
00:23:41,220 --> 00:23:43,723
To pay for local
advertisements in marketing,
541
00:23:43,756 --> 00:23:46,893
they took out a loan for
over one million dollars.
542
00:23:46,926 --> 00:23:49,696
- At the beginning of the
campaign for the lottery,
543
00:23:49,729 --> 00:23:52,899
we helped fund an effort
and we sent politicos
544
00:23:52,932 --> 00:23:55,602
into work in Alabama
to defeat this
545
00:23:55,635 --> 00:23:58,037
and it was defeated at
the end by two to one.
546
00:23:58,070 --> 00:24:00,072
- [Narrator] The Alabama
education lottery fund,
547
00:24:00,106 --> 00:24:02,008
the non-profit
organization covering
548
00:24:02,041 --> 00:24:03,910
all the expenses
of the referendum,
549
00:24:03,943 --> 00:24:08,014
still owed about half
a million dollars.
550
00:24:08,047 --> 00:24:09,849
- It happened to be
Alabama had kind of
551
00:24:09,882 --> 00:24:13,686
unfortunate circumstance
of a very Republican state,
552
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,689
having lost the
governorship to a democrat
553
00:24:16,723 --> 00:24:20,527
and being proximate to
the state that contained
554
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,795
our large client, the Choctaws,
555
00:24:22,829 --> 00:24:25,665
and then eventually we
made the decision that
556
00:24:25,698 --> 00:24:27,900
we had to do what we
could to make sure
557
00:24:27,934 --> 00:24:30,703
he wasn't re-elected
because he was a continuing
558
00:24:30,737 --> 00:24:33,873
and ongoing threat to our
client in Mississippi.
559
00:24:33,906 --> 00:24:37,076
(gloomy music)
560
00:24:37,109 --> 00:24:38,678
- [Narrator] Sometime
after our interview
561
00:24:38,711 --> 00:24:40,780
with Jack Abramoff,
we obtained an email
562
00:24:40,813 --> 00:24:43,115
he sent to his business
partner, Michael Scanlon,
563
00:24:43,149 --> 00:24:45,685
where he made it clear
what their casino client
564
00:24:45,718 --> 00:24:48,888
expected of Riley in return
for their financial support
565
00:24:48,921 --> 00:24:51,858
by explicitly stating that
the Choctaws definitely want
566
00:24:51,891 --> 00:24:54,861
Riley to shut down the
Poarch Creek operation.
567
00:24:54,894 --> 00:24:56,929
The Poarch Creek Indian
tribe owned casinos
568
00:24:56,963 --> 00:24:58,898
in neighboring Alabama
and were considered
569
00:24:58,931 --> 00:25:01,901
by the Choctaws to be
their primary competition.
570
00:25:01,934 --> 00:25:04,203
While Siegelman held
the state's top office,
571
00:25:04,236 --> 00:25:06,539
his rivals wasted
no time in targeting
572
00:25:06,573 --> 00:25:07,974
the newly elected governor.
573
00:25:08,007 --> 00:25:09,842
Bill Pryor, the same
Attorney General
574
00:25:09,876 --> 00:25:12,244
that would later stop the
recount in Baldwin County,
575
00:25:12,278 --> 00:25:14,246
issued financial
subpoenas for Siegelman
576
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,016
and his staff only weeks
after taking office,
577
00:25:17,049 --> 00:25:19,285
hardly enough time for
anyone to do anything
578
00:25:19,318 --> 00:25:21,554
that would warrant
an investigation.
579
00:25:21,588 --> 00:25:22,822
- While they're still
trying to figure out
580
00:25:22,855 --> 00:25:24,256
how the phone systems work,
581
00:25:24,290 --> 00:25:26,926
while they're still
arranging furniture,
582
00:25:26,959 --> 00:25:28,895
an investigation is underway.
583
00:25:28,928 --> 00:25:31,197
- [Narrator] Bill Pryor, the
Republican Attorney General
584
00:25:31,230 --> 00:25:33,032
that initiated
the investigation,
585
00:25:33,065 --> 00:25:35,702
worked with political
consultants Karl Rove
586
00:25:35,735 --> 00:25:37,169
and his partner, Bill Canary.
587
00:25:37,203 --> 00:25:40,272
Soon after taking office
in Washington in 2001,
588
00:25:40,306 --> 00:25:42,875
the Bush Administration
appointed Leura Canary
589
00:25:42,909 --> 00:25:44,577
as the new Federal Prosecutor
590
00:25:44,611 --> 00:25:46,045
for the middle
district of Alabama.
591
00:25:46,078 --> 00:25:48,581
She happened to be the
wife of Bill Canary,
592
00:25:48,615 --> 00:25:51,117
Karl Rove's colleague and
political consulting partner.
593
00:25:51,150 --> 00:25:53,119
This means that the
Federal Prosecutor
594
00:25:53,152 --> 00:25:55,021
legally pursing
Governor Siegelman
595
00:25:55,054 --> 00:25:57,957
is married to the campaign
manager of his opponent
596
00:25:57,990 --> 00:25:59,358
in the upcoming election.
597
00:25:59,391 --> 00:26:01,594
Even though there's no
premise for the investigations
598
00:26:01,628 --> 00:26:02,862
of Governor Siegelman,
599
00:26:02,895 --> 00:26:05,231
the negative publicity
and false accusations
600
00:26:05,264 --> 00:26:07,900
help her husband's client
by smearing Siegelman's
601
00:26:07,934 --> 00:26:10,269
political image in the press.
602
00:26:10,302 --> 00:26:12,004
- So, it's pretty cut and dry
603
00:26:12,038 --> 00:26:13,973
that the moment
that Leure Canary
604
00:26:14,006 --> 00:26:18,177
became the U.S. Attorney,
her husband was being paid
605
00:26:19,679 --> 00:26:22,882
by one of Governor Siegelman's
political opponents.
606
00:26:22,915 --> 00:26:26,753
So getting Don Siegelman
benefited her husband
607
00:26:28,387 --> 00:26:31,658
and all of a sudden,
when she takes over,
608
00:26:31,691 --> 00:26:35,327
the case gets new
energy, action ramps up
609
00:26:35,361 --> 00:26:38,698
as far as a grand jury
investigating everything
610
00:26:38,731 --> 00:26:40,032
you can imagine.
611
00:26:40,066 --> 00:26:42,068
- [Narrator] With almost
unlimited resources,
612
00:26:42,101 --> 00:26:43,903
and without any
evidence of a crime,
613
00:26:43,936 --> 00:26:46,072
prosecutors began
looking for anything
614
00:26:46,105 --> 00:26:48,908
that could smear or tarnish
their Democratic rival.
615
00:26:48,941 --> 00:26:51,010
They question
hundreds of people,
616
00:26:51,043 --> 00:26:53,746
including campaign donors
in an obvious attempt
617
00:26:53,780 --> 00:26:57,016
to discourage future
contributions to
Siegelman's campaign.
618
00:26:57,049 --> 00:26:59,919
They also issued dozens
of grand jury subpoenas
619
00:26:59,952 --> 00:27:02,321
in hopes of finding
something to pin on him.
620
00:27:02,354 --> 00:27:04,390
As Canary's efforts
quickly gained momentum,
621
00:27:04,423 --> 00:27:06,993
Siegelman's attorney,
David Cromwell Johnson,
622
00:27:07,026 --> 00:27:08,828
makes a statement on
the courthouse steps
623
00:27:08,861 --> 00:27:12,298
regarding Leura Canary's
obvious conflict of interest.
624
00:27:12,331 --> 00:27:13,833
- These are real
canaries, by the way.
625
00:27:13,866 --> 00:27:15,201
The difference between
a canary and a parakeet
626
00:27:15,234 --> 00:27:19,438
is a canary sings and that's
what's been happening.
627
00:27:19,471 --> 00:27:21,841
The next step is I
wanna go to Washington
628
00:27:21,874 --> 00:27:23,976
and talk to those people
about what's happening here.
629
00:27:24,010 --> 00:27:24,877
This is a very serious matter.
630
00:27:24,911 --> 00:27:26,979
It's a violation of
the criminal code,
631
00:27:27,013 --> 00:27:28,447
the U.S. Attorney's code
632
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,817
and the code of
federal regulations
633
00:27:30,850 --> 00:27:33,052
and she's got to
get off this case.
634
00:27:33,085 --> 00:27:35,187
- [Narrator] Leura Canary
soon offers a public statement
635
00:27:35,221 --> 00:27:37,023
saying that Justice
Department officials
636
00:27:37,056 --> 00:27:39,992
in Washington said there
was no conflict of interest.
637
00:27:40,026 --> 00:27:42,394
"However," she said, "out
of an abundance of caution,
638
00:27:42,428 --> 00:27:44,764
"I will recuse myself
from the case."
639
00:27:44,797 --> 00:27:47,066
Despite her statement,
no official documents
640
00:27:47,099 --> 00:27:49,736
were ever produced
to back up her claim.
641
00:27:49,769 --> 00:27:50,870
- That's mind boggling.
642
00:27:50,903 --> 00:27:54,140
The fact that the Justice
Department would tell her
643
00:27:54,173 --> 00:27:55,742
that she didn't have a
conflict when her husband
644
00:27:55,775 --> 00:27:57,877
was working for Don Siegelman's
political opponents.
645
00:27:57,910 --> 00:27:59,211
Well, we know she's lying.
646
00:27:59,245 --> 00:28:02,448
Even a blind man can see
that conflict of interest.
647
00:28:02,481 --> 00:28:03,883
It's almost comical.
648
00:28:03,916 --> 00:28:05,918
If I wrote that down,
if I took this case
649
00:28:05,952 --> 00:28:09,121
and wrote it as a movie
script, it would be rejected.
650
00:28:09,155 --> 00:28:11,891
If I wrote it out as a novel
outline, it would be rejected.
651
00:28:11,924 --> 00:28:13,893
People would say
it's unrealistic.
652
00:28:13,926 --> 00:28:15,962
- [Narrator] Canary ostensibly
turned the case over
653
00:28:15,995 --> 00:28:17,096
to her assistants,
654
00:28:17,129 --> 00:28:20,867
Deputy Prosecutors Stephen
Faega and Louis Franklin.
655
00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:24,036
- When Louis Franklin
says he was the person
656
00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:27,940
who was making the decisions,
the buck stopped here,
657
00:28:27,974 --> 00:28:30,977
Leura Canary was
not involved in it,
658
00:28:31,010 --> 00:28:35,181
that was a conscious lie and
this is a lie that mattered.
659
00:28:36,115 --> 00:28:37,483
(dramatic chord)
660
00:28:37,516 --> 00:28:39,752
- [Narrator] Faega and
Franklin rapidly expanded
661
00:28:39,786 --> 00:28:42,188
the investigation by
questioning hundreds
662
00:28:42,221 --> 00:28:44,056
of potential witnesses
looking for a crime
663
00:28:44,090 --> 00:28:45,958
to prosecute Siegelman.
664
00:28:45,992 --> 00:28:48,828
- They were absolutely
targeting Don Siegelman.
665
00:28:48,861 --> 00:28:50,763
They were threatening people,
666
00:28:50,797 --> 00:28:52,098
trying to get them
to say certain things
667
00:28:52,131 --> 00:28:54,200
so that they could
prosecute him.
668
00:28:54,233 --> 00:28:57,403
They went to Dr. Phillip
Bobo's home in Tuscaloosa
669
00:28:57,436 --> 00:28:58,805
late at night.
670
00:28:58,838 --> 00:29:01,007
They threatened him.
671
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,141
They wanted him to
say certain things
672
00:29:02,174 --> 00:29:03,810
against Governor Siegelman.
673
00:29:03,843 --> 00:29:06,378
He wouldn't lie and they
brought charges against him
674
00:29:06,412 --> 00:29:07,814
in another case.
675
00:29:07,847 --> 00:29:10,549
- It was led by a
team of prosecutors
676
00:29:10,582 --> 00:29:12,118
out of the Northern District,
677
00:29:12,151 --> 00:29:15,321
primarily Matt Hart
who had previously
678
00:29:16,956 --> 00:29:21,093
tried the case, indicted
him, convicted him,
679
00:29:21,127 --> 00:29:23,262
then the 11th Circuit
overturned it.
680
00:29:23,295 --> 00:29:25,998
They continued
after this doctor,
681
00:29:26,032 --> 00:29:29,568
destroyed his practice,
destroyed his family life
682
00:29:29,601 --> 00:29:32,238
and ultimately he was acquitted.
683
00:29:32,271 --> 00:29:34,373
- [Narrator] Soon after
Dr. Bobo was acquitted,
684
00:29:34,406 --> 00:29:37,243
prosecutors led by Bush
appointee Alice Martin
685
00:29:37,276 --> 00:29:40,379
indicted him again with
virtually the same charge.
686
00:29:40,412 --> 00:29:43,182
However, this new indictment
named Don Siegelman
687
00:29:43,215 --> 00:29:45,317
and his former chief
of staff Paul Hamrick
688
00:29:45,351 --> 00:29:47,419
as co-defendants.
689
00:29:47,453 --> 00:29:51,824
- The basic charge was
conspiracy in Medicaid for all.
690
00:29:53,059 --> 00:29:55,427
Once a jury was
chosen in the case,
691
00:29:55,461 --> 00:29:57,229
I conducted a hearing
692
00:29:59,231 --> 00:30:02,434
to determine whether
the government has
sufficient evidence
693
00:30:02,468 --> 00:30:06,472
of a conspiracy and the
witnesses who testified,
694
00:30:08,174 --> 00:30:10,076
called by the government,
695
00:30:10,109 --> 00:30:14,180
convinced me that there
was absolutely nothing to
696
00:30:14,213 --> 00:30:16,248
this charge of conspiracy
697
00:30:16,282 --> 00:30:19,485
and so I dismissed
the conspiracy charge,
698
00:30:19,518 --> 00:30:22,889
notified the parties that we
were gonna proceed to trial.
699
00:30:22,922 --> 00:30:27,526
At that point, the
government dismissed the case
700
00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:30,997
and I insisted that it be
dismissed with prejudice
701
00:30:31,030 --> 00:30:32,398
and so it was.
702
00:30:32,431 --> 00:30:36,335
In my 29 years seven
months as a federal judge,
703
00:30:38,504 --> 00:30:42,508
this was the most unfounded
criminal prosecution
704
00:30:43,943 --> 00:30:44,843
that I saw.
705
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,417
(gentle music)
706
00:30:51,450 --> 00:30:53,886
(clicking)
707
00:30:59,258 --> 00:31:02,028
(gloomy music)
708
00:31:17,376 --> 00:31:18,677
- [Narrator] With
the trial behind him
709
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:19,678
and polls showing support,
710
00:31:19,711 --> 00:31:22,214
Siegelman announced that
he would challenge Riley
711
00:31:22,248 --> 00:31:25,017
in the 2006 governor's race.
712
00:31:25,051 --> 00:31:27,419
- Don Siegelman immediately
set about talking
713
00:31:27,453 --> 00:31:31,023
about running for
governor again in 2006
714
00:31:31,057 --> 00:31:32,558
and polls showed
that Don Siegelman
715
00:31:32,591 --> 00:31:34,927
would beat Bob
Riley in a rematch.
716
00:31:34,961 --> 00:31:38,497
So that really set off alarm
bells in Republican circles.
717
00:31:38,530 --> 00:31:39,966
- [Narrator] Just after
Siegelman announced
718
00:31:39,999 --> 00:31:41,934
his intention to challenge
Riley for governor,
719
00:31:41,968 --> 00:31:43,970
prosecutors under Leura Canary
720
00:31:44,003 --> 00:31:47,006
immediately reanimated an
old investigation against him
721
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:49,708
that had been closed
because of lack of evidence.
722
00:31:49,741 --> 00:31:53,212
- The evidence was not there
to convict Don Siegelman.
723
00:31:53,245 --> 00:31:54,646
The evidence simply
was not there.
724
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,016
So how do you go about
trying to get a conviction?
725
00:31:57,049 --> 00:31:58,384
Well you have to get
someone to testify.
726
00:31:58,417 --> 00:32:01,087
You have to get someone to
cut some sort of a deal.
727
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,356
There's a continuing pattern
of intimidating witnesses
728
00:32:04,390 --> 00:32:06,058
and trying to get people to lie
729
00:32:06,092 --> 00:32:08,260
in order to say what
these people wanted
730
00:32:08,294 --> 00:32:10,429
in order to make a case
against Governor Siegelman
731
00:32:10,462 --> 00:32:12,464
and they've done this
throughout the years.
732
00:32:12,498 --> 00:32:15,634
This is another pattern of
misconduct on their part.
733
00:32:15,667 --> 00:32:20,306
- We did, with this case,
what we do with every case.
734
00:32:20,339 --> 00:32:22,641
There was evidence out there,
735
00:32:22,674 --> 00:32:26,112
we investigated, we
looked at evidence,
736
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:29,015
and we went where it took us.
737
00:32:29,048 --> 00:32:31,117
It took us back to him.
738
00:32:31,150 --> 00:32:33,185
- [Narrator] Instead of
using current FBI agents,
739
00:32:33,219 --> 00:32:35,121
Canary's office
quietly contracted
740
00:32:35,154 --> 00:32:38,124
three retired investigators
who had previously worked
741
00:32:38,157 --> 00:32:41,227
under then former Alabama
attorney general Jeff Sessions.
742
00:32:41,260 --> 00:32:43,162
Together they
scoured every aspect
743
00:32:43,195 --> 00:32:46,065
of Siegelman's personal,
private, and public life
744
00:32:46,098 --> 00:32:49,168
in hopes of finding
something to charge him with.
745
00:32:49,201 --> 00:32:51,670
About the same time,
prosecutor Alice Martin,
746
00:32:51,703 --> 00:32:53,605
who had just lost
the Siegelman case,
747
00:32:53,639 --> 00:32:56,608
indicted Richard Scrushy,
then CEO of the state's
748
00:32:56,642 --> 00:32:59,178
largest healthcare
company HealthSouth,
749
00:32:59,211 --> 00:33:01,047
as the first person ever charged
750
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,382
under the new
Sarbanes-Oxley Act.
751
00:33:03,415 --> 00:33:05,151
By the time the
case went to trial,
752
00:33:05,184 --> 00:33:07,019
it received enormous
media attention
753
00:33:07,053 --> 00:33:08,454
from all over the world
754
00:33:08,487 --> 00:33:11,123
and billed as the financial
trial of the century,
755
00:33:11,157 --> 00:33:12,558
just what prosecutors wanted.
756
00:33:12,591 --> 00:33:15,194
Eventually, five of
HealthSouth's CFOs
757
00:33:15,227 --> 00:33:16,128
pled guilty to fraud.
758
00:33:16,162 --> 00:33:18,430
However, Richard Scrushy
was found not guilty
759
00:33:18,464 --> 00:33:19,631
of all charges.
760
00:33:19,665 --> 00:33:22,734
- The government
spared no resources
761
00:33:22,768 --> 00:33:25,137
to try to take down Richard.
762
00:33:25,171 --> 00:33:27,373
Between the Security
Exchange Commission,
763
00:33:27,406 --> 00:33:30,409
the FBI, the Northern
District of Alabama,
764
00:33:30,442 --> 00:33:32,411
the press, the publicity,
765
00:33:32,444 --> 00:33:34,613
they went all out,
they went gung-ho
766
00:33:34,646 --> 00:33:36,148
to try to take down Richard.
767
00:33:36,182 --> 00:33:39,185
After all this effort,
Richard was acquitted.
768
00:33:39,218 --> 00:33:41,653
Alice Martin suffered
a huge defeat,
769
00:33:41,687 --> 00:33:44,123
ruined her possibility
for a federal judgeship
770
00:33:44,156 --> 00:33:46,492
and I can imagine what
it did to her ego.
771
00:33:46,525 --> 00:33:49,128
- [Narrator] After a second
embarrassing loss for Martin,
772
00:33:49,161 --> 00:33:50,262
prosecutors in the
Middle District
773
00:33:50,296 --> 00:33:53,665
sought to capitalize on Richard
Scrushy's bad reputation
774
00:33:53,699 --> 00:33:55,101
that had been completely smeared
775
00:33:55,134 --> 00:33:57,436
after years of
constant negative press
776
00:33:57,469 --> 00:34:00,639
by targeting him for
another prosecution.
777
00:34:00,672 --> 00:34:03,609
- Even though Richard
Scrushy prevailed
778
00:34:03,642 --> 00:34:07,146
in that first SEC and
mini criminal trial,
779
00:34:08,180 --> 00:34:11,150
his public reputation
was smeared.
780
00:34:11,183 --> 00:34:13,552
There was so much
negative publicity
781
00:34:13,585 --> 00:34:15,087
in the state of Alabama,
782
00:34:15,121 --> 00:34:17,256
particularly Northern
District Alabama,
783
00:34:17,289 --> 00:34:21,460
that people would yell at him
and say bad things about him.
784
00:34:23,195 --> 00:34:26,432
So he was set up for someone
that could be brought in
785
00:34:26,465 --> 00:34:29,268
to the Siegelman case after
they lost the first indictment.
786
00:34:29,301 --> 00:34:31,503
- [Narrator] With hardly any
time to recover from the trial,
787
00:34:31,537 --> 00:34:34,206
Canary began threatening
Scrushy with another charge
788
00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:36,842
unless he testified
against Siegelman.
789
00:34:36,875 --> 00:34:40,179
- My attorneys talked
with the prosecutors
790
00:34:40,212 --> 00:34:43,449
about me being dropped
out of the prosecution
791
00:34:43,482 --> 00:34:45,817
by testifying
against the governor.
792
00:34:45,851 --> 00:34:50,456
The discussion was would
Richard say certain things.
793
00:34:50,489 --> 00:34:52,358
All of them centered
around something
794
00:34:52,391 --> 00:34:55,594
that would have
implicated the governor
795
00:34:55,627 --> 00:34:57,529
in some way that he was
guilty of something,
796
00:34:57,563 --> 00:35:01,533
but every one of them were,
number one, straight-up lies.
797
00:35:01,567 --> 00:35:03,769
None of the situations
they asked me to say
798
00:35:03,802 --> 00:35:05,637
were anywhere near any truth.
799
00:35:05,671 --> 00:35:08,807
There was no way that I could
say any of those things.
800
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,543
As a matter of fact,
I went home that night
801
00:35:11,577 --> 00:35:13,579
and I sat down with my wife
802
00:35:13,612 --> 00:35:16,515
and I told her these are the
things they wanted me to say
803
00:35:16,548 --> 00:35:17,816
and she said "Well you
know those are not true"
804
00:35:17,849 --> 00:35:19,318
and I said "Absolutely"
805
00:35:19,351 --> 00:35:21,487
and the decision was
made by she and I
806
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,492
that I'm not going at all to
go out and lie against this man
807
00:35:26,525 --> 00:35:28,460
and have him go to prison
808
00:35:28,494 --> 00:35:30,896
for something that I
said that was not true
809
00:35:30,929 --> 00:35:32,798
and have to live with
that the rest of my life
810
00:35:32,831 --> 00:35:33,932
and that was actually
what happened.
811
00:35:33,965 --> 00:35:36,635
- [Narrator] Prosecutors
also pressured Paul Hamrick,
812
00:35:36,668 --> 00:35:38,337
the governor's former
chief of staff,
813
00:35:38,370 --> 00:35:39,738
to lie under oath.
814
00:35:39,771 --> 00:35:41,940
One investigator working
under Leura Canary
815
00:35:41,973 --> 00:35:43,609
stooped to an even lower level
816
00:35:43,642 --> 00:35:46,645
when he cornered Hamrick
in a courthouse elevator.
817
00:35:46,678 --> 00:35:50,449
- At a pre-trial hearing
at the federal courthouse
818
00:35:50,482 --> 00:35:53,452
is when one of the
agents, Bill Ong,
819
00:35:53,485 --> 00:35:56,255
commented to me I had no choice
820
00:35:56,288 --> 00:35:58,857
but to give the testimony
that they had told me to give
821
00:35:58,890 --> 00:35:59,958
and when I asked him why
822
00:35:59,991 --> 00:36:03,229
he said well 'cause you've
got two young daughters
823
00:36:03,262 --> 00:36:05,264
and I had no choice
but to do it,
824
00:36:05,297 --> 00:36:07,466
basically threatening me
that they would take me away
825
00:36:07,499 --> 00:36:11,737
from my daughters and I had to
do what they wanted me to do.
826
00:36:11,770 --> 00:36:14,840
There's a place in
hell for that man.
827
00:36:16,475 --> 00:36:18,777
(gentle music)
828
00:36:18,810 --> 00:36:21,247
(clicking)
829
00:36:25,917 --> 00:36:29,355
- So in 1972 I joined
the Republican Party
830
00:36:29,388 --> 00:36:32,358
and I automatically went
on the local committee.
831
00:36:32,391 --> 00:36:35,394
There was only but 11 members
of the Republican Party
832
00:36:35,427 --> 00:36:36,695
in Montgomery, Alabama
833
00:36:36,728 --> 00:36:38,530
and I was very much involved
834
00:36:38,564 --> 00:36:42,401
and really watched
the Republic Party
835
00:36:42,434 --> 00:36:44,736
build here in Alabama.
836
00:36:44,770 --> 00:36:47,273
Unfortunately I watched
some of the people
837
00:36:47,306 --> 00:36:51,577
that I thought were not
very credible nor honest
838
00:36:51,610 --> 00:36:56,315
begin to come into the
party as the tide changed.
839
00:36:56,348 --> 00:36:59,418
In 2001, I got a call
from a friend of mine
840
00:36:59,451 --> 00:37:03,021
whose family big Republicans,
longtime Republicans
841
00:37:03,054 --> 00:37:07,426
and he said "Tommy, I want
you to come to a meeting
842
00:37:09,595 --> 00:37:11,830
"that we're having,
local Republicans"
843
00:37:11,863 --> 00:37:14,500
and I said "Well what
kind of meeting?"
844
00:37:14,533 --> 00:37:17,303
He said "Well, we've got a plan.
845
00:37:17,336 --> 00:37:20,339
"We've been able
to get Leura Canary
846
00:37:20,372 --> 00:37:21,940
"appointed US Attorney
847
00:37:21,973 --> 00:37:25,444
"and Congressman Bob
Riley that's gonna run
848
00:37:25,477 --> 00:37:28,280
"against Don Siegelman
for governor"
849
00:37:28,314 --> 00:37:30,015
and he said "You're
gonna be surprised"
850
00:37:30,048 --> 00:37:31,216
and I said "Well, what?"
851
00:37:31,249 --> 00:37:35,387
And he said "Well, our plan
is to indict Don Siegelman."
852
00:37:35,421 --> 00:37:37,656
"You know, you
gotta tell me more.
853
00:37:37,689 --> 00:37:41,393
"You mean you're gonna
use political prosecution
854
00:37:41,427 --> 00:37:44,763
"to indict somebody in the
middle of a political race?"
855
00:37:44,796 --> 00:37:47,032
And he said "Well that's
what they tell me."
856
00:37:47,065 --> 00:37:47,899
- [Interviewer] Who is they?
857
00:37:47,933 --> 00:37:51,703
- He said that he
thought Karl Rove
858
00:37:51,737 --> 00:37:54,039
was supposed to
come to the meeting,
859
00:37:54,072 --> 00:37:58,377
Riley, I later found out,
Abramoff, Scanlon, Bill Canary.
860
00:37:59,345 --> 00:38:01,613
I said "Look, I don't
want to be a part
861
00:38:01,647 --> 00:38:02,914
"of anything like this.
862
00:38:02,948 --> 00:38:04,383
"Count me out."
863
00:38:04,416 --> 00:38:06,885
And I said "Just this
political prosecution
864
00:38:06,918 --> 00:38:08,620
"is just not the way to go."
865
00:38:08,654 --> 00:38:10,856
And so that's the
last I heard of it
866
00:38:10,889 --> 00:38:12,524
until the middle of the campaign
867
00:38:12,558 --> 00:38:15,594
between Bob Riley
and Don Siegelman,
868
00:38:15,627 --> 00:38:19,931
I pick up the paper, Don
Siegelman's been indicted
869
00:38:19,965 --> 00:38:22,801
and I thought holy Moses,
are these people for real?
870
00:38:22,834 --> 00:38:25,571
(dramatic music)
871
00:38:30,709 --> 00:38:32,411
- [Narrator] The friend
who told him about
872
00:38:32,444 --> 00:38:34,513
the Republican plan to use
the judiciary to take over
873
00:38:34,546 --> 00:38:37,849
Alabama was longtime Republican
operative Winton Blount
874
00:38:37,883 --> 00:38:39,418
who has since passed away.
875
00:38:39,451 --> 00:38:40,586
Blount had once been chairman
876
00:38:40,619 --> 00:38:42,421
of the Alabama Republican Party
877
00:38:42,454 --> 00:38:44,790
and for decades the Blount
family has been well known
878
00:38:44,823 --> 00:38:46,992
among the established
ranks of the GOP.
879
00:38:47,025 --> 00:38:48,627
With a strong motive and means,
880
00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:50,462
these Republicans
had an opportunity
881
00:38:50,496 --> 00:38:52,063
to complete their sinister plan.
882
00:38:52,097 --> 00:38:55,534
- A new poll came out in
October that showed us winning.
883
00:38:55,567 --> 00:38:57,102
After all they'd thrown at him,
884
00:38:57,135 --> 00:38:59,438
Governor Siegelman was
still going to walk away
885
00:38:59,471 --> 00:39:01,373
with the nomination
and was gonna pose
886
00:39:01,407 --> 00:39:03,074
a serious threat to Bob Riley.
887
00:39:03,108 --> 00:39:05,611
10 days later Don
Siegelman was indicted.
888
00:39:05,644 --> 00:39:07,846
- [Narrator] The key
allegation made by prosecutors
889
00:39:07,879 --> 00:39:10,649
was that Richard Scrushy
bribed Governor Siegelman
890
00:39:10,682 --> 00:39:12,050
with $500,000
891
00:39:12,083 --> 00:39:14,886
for a seat on the Certificate
of Need Review Board,
892
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,489
or more commonly known
as the CON Board,
893
00:39:17,523 --> 00:39:19,791
a committee that regulates
healthcare facilities
894
00:39:19,825 --> 00:39:21,460
around the state.
895
00:39:21,493 --> 00:39:23,595
During the investigation,
prosecutors discovered
896
00:39:23,629 --> 00:39:25,864
that a mid-level aid
in the administration
897
00:39:25,897 --> 00:39:27,566
was on the take.
898
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:29,401
Unbeknownst to everyone
in the governor's office,
899
00:39:29,435 --> 00:39:32,738
Nick Bailey took bribes
totalling more than $100,000
900
00:39:32,771 --> 00:39:34,573
for special favors.
901
00:39:34,606 --> 00:39:37,876
- Nick was called in the
investigation of Siegelman.
902
00:39:37,909 --> 00:39:40,446
He left the administration,
903
00:39:40,479 --> 00:39:43,549
cooperated with the FBI
and the Justice Department
904
00:39:43,582 --> 00:39:46,017
and eventually pled
guilty himself.
905
00:39:46,051 --> 00:39:47,819
- [Narrator] Facing
as much as 30 years,
906
00:39:47,853 --> 00:39:49,588
Bailey's attorney George Beck
907
00:39:49,621 --> 00:39:51,089
brokered a deal with prosecutors
908
00:39:51,122 --> 00:39:52,758
to receive a lighter sentence
909
00:39:52,791 --> 00:39:55,927
if he agreed to testify
against his former boss,
910
00:39:55,961 --> 00:39:57,028
Governor Siegelman.
911
00:39:57,062 --> 00:39:58,730
However, there was a catch.
912
00:39:58,764 --> 00:40:01,533
He would not be sentenced
until after testifying
913
00:40:01,567 --> 00:40:02,768
in the Siegelman trial,
914
00:40:02,801 --> 00:40:05,437
obviously ensuring a
convincing testimony.
915
00:40:05,471 --> 00:40:06,905
- Nick and I became
very good friends
916
00:40:06,938 --> 00:40:10,442
and he confided in me about
his treatment by the FBI
917
00:40:10,476 --> 00:40:11,710
and by the Justice Department.
918
00:40:11,743 --> 00:40:16,615
Nick was interviewed
dozens and dozens of times
919
00:40:16,648 --> 00:40:18,717
by the Justice
Department and the FBI
920
00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:22,554
about what he might know
related to Siegelman
921
00:40:22,588 --> 00:40:25,156
and what he might know
related to other matters.
922
00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:27,693
The two people on the
frontline for the government
923
00:40:27,726 --> 00:40:30,696
were Steve Faega
and Louis Franklin.
924
00:40:30,729 --> 00:40:34,933
He confided in me that they
had, in essence, coached him
925
00:40:34,966 --> 00:40:38,504
and so this process began
as trying to help him
926
00:40:38,537 --> 00:40:41,907
become more consistent
in giving his answers.
927
00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:45,210
- As they were warming up for
trial, Nick would call me.
928
00:40:45,243 --> 00:40:46,578
He would just be distraught,
929
00:40:46,612 --> 00:40:48,847
I mean just emotionally a wreck.
930
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,650
They wanted to press him
into saying something
931
00:40:51,683 --> 00:40:53,852
that he couldn't say
932
00:40:53,885 --> 00:40:55,487
and I would just encourage him.
933
00:40:55,521 --> 00:40:58,089
I'd say come on, Nick,
stand up and tell the truth
934
00:40:58,123 --> 00:40:59,925
and don't let these prosecutors
935
00:40:59,958 --> 00:41:01,993
make you tell anything otherwise
936
00:41:02,027 --> 00:41:04,162
and if you have to go to prison,
you have to go to prison,
937
00:41:04,195 --> 00:41:05,330
you did wrong.
938
00:41:05,363 --> 00:41:09,501
- Louis Franklin, one of the
prosecutors, US attorney,
939
00:41:09,535 --> 00:41:14,172
got so upset with Nick that
they almost came to blows.
940
00:41:14,205 --> 00:41:17,576
Nick was afraid he was gonna
have to defend himself.
941
00:41:17,609 --> 00:41:19,645
I think most people
think Faega is tough,
942
00:41:19,678 --> 00:41:22,614
but he's sort of a pro's pro
943
00:41:22,648 --> 00:41:24,683
and I think the
impression of Franklin
944
00:41:24,716 --> 00:41:26,284
is he's sort of a jerk's jerk.
945
00:41:26,317 --> 00:41:29,054
He's sort of a self-righteous.
946
00:41:29,087 --> 00:41:31,857
He prosecutes with a
chip on his shoulder.
947
00:41:31,890 --> 00:41:35,794
After Louis Franklin and
Nick got to a point where
948
00:41:35,827 --> 00:41:37,696
they could not communicate,
949
00:41:37,729 --> 00:41:40,599
Steve Faega became
the point person
950
00:41:40,632 --> 00:41:43,535
on getting Nick
ready for the case.
951
00:41:43,569 --> 00:41:46,705
Faega would point out
inconsistencies with him
952
00:41:46,738 --> 00:41:50,108
and so Faega helped
him edit his testimony
953
00:41:50,141 --> 00:41:51,710
so that it would be consistent.
954
00:41:51,743 --> 00:41:53,078
I think most people would say
955
00:41:53,111 --> 00:41:54,646
he was giving him the answers.
956
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,717
- There was a point
where they threatened him
957
00:41:58,750 --> 00:42:02,020
with bringing family members
into this investigation
958
00:42:02,053 --> 00:42:05,056
and that was really
when Nick broke.
959
00:42:05,957 --> 00:42:09,027
(gloomy piano music)
960
00:42:11,296 --> 00:42:13,732
- He was trying to
protect his family.
961
00:42:13,765 --> 00:42:16,868
He was trying to
protect his own self
962
00:42:16,902 --> 00:42:19,638
and he was also trying to
get a reduced sentence.
963
00:42:19,671 --> 00:42:21,773
- The day the trial started,
964
00:42:21,807 --> 00:42:25,043
he said "Amy, I've
had to change sides."
965
00:42:25,076 --> 00:42:26,645
He said "Well, I
don't have a choice.
966
00:42:26,678 --> 00:42:28,647
"I really don't have a choice."
967
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,749
And he said "I just hate
what's getting ready
968
00:42:30,782 --> 00:42:31,717
"to happen to Don.
969
00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:34,085
"I just hate it, he
doesn't deserve this.
970
00:42:34,119 --> 00:42:35,286
"I've got to do this perfect.
971
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,823
"I've gotta be
excellent on the stand.
972
00:42:37,856 --> 00:42:40,692
"How well I do is
gonna determine
973
00:42:40,726 --> 00:42:42,794
"how much time I spend in prison
974
00:42:42,828 --> 00:42:45,764
"and I've got to do
the best that I can."
975
00:42:45,797 --> 00:42:46,598
- [Interviewer] He did say that?
976
00:42:46,632 --> 00:42:49,200
- Oh yeah, absolutely
he said that
977
00:42:49,234 --> 00:42:52,704
and I said "Well, Nick,
what are you gonna do
978
00:42:52,738 --> 00:42:55,641
"when the lawyers, if they
ask you that on the stand?"
979
00:42:55,674 --> 00:42:57,108
And his whole demeanor changed.
980
00:42:57,142 --> 00:42:59,811
I mean immediately
he just looked off
981
00:42:59,845 --> 00:43:02,948
and he became very
stoic and robotic.
982
00:43:04,115 --> 00:43:06,284
"It was a pay for play,
it was a pay for play.
983
00:43:06,317 --> 00:43:07,919
"Money exchanged for favors.
984
00:43:07,953 --> 00:43:09,220
"That's all it was."
985
00:43:09,254 --> 00:43:11,156
I let him finish and
then all the sudden
986
00:43:11,189 --> 00:43:14,359
he just looked back at me like.
987
00:43:14,392 --> 00:43:17,996
(solemn piano music)
988
00:43:18,029 --> 00:43:19,698
(gentle music)
989
00:43:19,731 --> 00:43:21,767
(clicking)
990
00:43:27,072 --> 00:43:29,841
(solemn music)
991
00:43:35,947 --> 00:43:38,917
- I've worked in every
state in the Union
992
00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:40,852
in the almost 40
years I've done this.
993
00:43:40,886 --> 00:43:44,022
Alabama surpasses
any other state
994
00:43:44,055 --> 00:43:47,125
in terms of I think what
a lot of people would call
995
00:43:47,158 --> 00:43:49,194
the dirtiness of its politics.
996
00:43:49,227 --> 00:43:54,065
- Alabama has a famous
tradition going back decades
997
00:43:54,099 --> 00:43:57,202
of being the jurisdiction
where you could indict
998
00:43:57,235 --> 00:44:00,238
and convict a ham
sandwich if you wanted to.
999
00:44:00,271 --> 00:44:01,907
- Well, I think they anticipated
1000
00:44:01,940 --> 00:44:04,075
that there would be a
certain amount of backlash
1001
00:44:04,109 --> 00:44:06,978
from the community as a
result of the acquittals.
1002
00:44:07,012 --> 00:44:09,047
The media had been
extraordinarily negative
1003
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,749
at least as to Richard.
1004
00:44:10,782 --> 00:44:14,019
By putting them together you
have the classic situation
1005
00:44:14,052 --> 00:44:17,388
where jurors believed
something must be wrong,
1006
00:44:17,422 --> 00:44:19,157
they must be guilty of something
1007
00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:21,259
because the government
keeps indicting them.
1008
00:44:21,292 --> 00:44:23,461
You know, this is a wholly
separate prosecution,
1009
00:44:23,494 --> 00:44:25,430
but there's no question
that it was a second bite
1010
00:44:25,463 --> 00:44:27,365
at the apple for the
Department of Justice.
1011
00:44:27,398 --> 00:44:30,135
- They wanted maximum
political damage done
1012
00:44:30,168 --> 00:44:31,402
to Don Siegelman and the charges
1013
00:44:31,436 --> 00:44:32,971
that were brought against him,
1014
00:44:33,004 --> 00:44:35,040
charged him for
everything you can imagine
1015
00:44:35,073 --> 00:44:37,408
that a politician
could be charged for,
1016
00:44:37,442 --> 00:44:40,378
bribery, improper contracts,
1017
00:44:40,411 --> 00:44:44,415
awarding things on the
basis of financial interest,
1018
00:44:44,449 --> 00:44:46,718
every possible ethics violation.
1019
00:44:46,752 --> 00:44:50,021
- We learned that they were
basically reopening this case.
1020
00:44:50,055 --> 00:44:52,190
Once it was coming back to life,
1021
00:44:52,223 --> 00:44:54,025
we requested a meeting
1022
00:44:55,861 --> 00:44:58,196
and I asked them if they had
made a charging decision.
1023
00:44:58,229 --> 00:44:59,965
They told me no.
1024
00:44:59,998 --> 00:45:02,133
We made certain
disclosures to them
1025
00:45:02,167 --> 00:45:04,002
and had an open
discussion with them.
1026
00:45:04,035 --> 00:45:07,105
It didn't result in any sort
of deal being made between us,
1027
00:45:07,138 --> 00:45:10,075
but I subsequently found
out that on that day
1028
00:45:10,108 --> 00:45:11,042
when I went to that meeting,
1029
00:45:11,076 --> 00:45:13,078
they had already
indicted Richard Scrushy.
1030
00:45:13,111 --> 00:45:16,114
So clearly they had made
a charging decision.
1031
00:45:16,147 --> 00:45:18,516
We move to dismiss based
on the government's
1032
00:45:18,549 --> 00:45:22,320
misrepresentation to me and
it was denied by the court.
1033
00:45:22,353 --> 00:45:23,154
- [Interviewer] They lied?
1034
00:45:23,188 --> 00:45:25,123
- Yes, they lied to me
1035
00:45:25,156 --> 00:45:28,059
and they admitted during the
hearing that they lied to me.
1036
00:45:28,093 --> 00:45:30,829
That was the most
significant lie
1037
00:45:30,862 --> 00:45:35,300
that has ever been told to
me by a federal prosecutor.
1038
00:45:35,333 --> 00:45:38,303
(gentle music)
1039
00:45:38,336 --> 00:45:40,772
(clicking)
1040
00:45:44,542 --> 00:45:47,145
(solemn music)
1041
00:45:53,051 --> 00:45:54,886
- [Narrator] Prosecutors
filed multiple charges
1042
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,188
against former Governor
Siegelman, Richard Scrushy,
1043
00:45:57,222 --> 00:45:59,825
Siegelman's former chief
of staff Paul Hamrick,
1044
00:45:59,858 --> 00:46:03,494
and former Alabama
transportation
secretary Mack Roberts.
1045
00:46:03,528 --> 00:46:07,565
The trial was held in the
Montgomery Federal Courthouse.
1046
00:46:07,598 --> 00:46:10,068
- [Woman] And with just three
days before the primary,
1047
00:46:10,101 --> 00:46:13,104
gubernatorial candidate
and defendant Don Siegelman
1048
00:46:13,138 --> 00:46:15,506
boarded his tour bus
after court today,
1049
00:46:15,540 --> 00:46:18,143
heading for the campaign trail.
1050
00:46:18,176 --> 00:46:20,345
- I imagine the governor
will let us the begin
1051
00:46:20,378 --> 00:46:22,480
the day after the primary.
1052
00:46:22,513 --> 00:46:24,449
- [Man] You think
that's calculated?
1053
00:46:24,482 --> 00:46:26,217
- I do think it's calculated.
1054
00:46:26,251 --> 00:46:30,989
- Pleading guilty was not
even discussed, not an option.
1055
00:46:31,022 --> 00:46:34,025
Usually when somebody's
kinda thinking
1056
00:46:34,059 --> 00:46:36,127
well maybe this sounds
kinda bad or something,
1057
00:46:36,161 --> 00:46:39,831
they tell their lawyer
see what you can work out.
1058
00:46:39,865 --> 00:46:41,099
Never happened.
1059
00:46:41,132 --> 00:46:43,101
- There would have
been no conviction
1060
00:46:43,134 --> 00:46:45,503
if the government
could not prove
1061
00:46:45,536 --> 00:46:48,840
that there was an agreement
or a quid pro quo,
1062
00:46:48,874 --> 00:46:50,008
something for something.
1063
00:46:50,041 --> 00:46:52,043
That's how bribery is proven.
1064
00:46:52,077 --> 00:46:54,445
So they put Nick Bailey
on the witness stand
1065
00:46:54,479 --> 00:46:58,917
for the government and they
grill him for four days
1066
00:46:58,950 --> 00:47:01,086
and over and over and over again
1067
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:05,023
they have Nick Bailey say
that he and Don Siegelman
1068
00:47:05,056 --> 00:47:08,126
had an agreement
with Richard Scrushy
1069
00:47:10,028 --> 00:47:12,397
that they would appoint
Scrushy to the CON Board
1070
00:47:12,430 --> 00:47:14,332
in exchange for contribution.
1071
00:47:14,365 --> 00:47:17,535
Over and over again, did
you have an agreement, yes,
1072
00:47:17,568 --> 00:47:19,070
did you have an agreement, yes,
1073
00:47:19,104 --> 00:47:21,106
and they had Bailey repeat
this over and over again
1074
00:47:21,139 --> 00:47:23,141
trying to beat it
into the jury's head
1075
00:47:23,174 --> 00:47:25,443
that there was in
fact an agreement,
1076
00:47:25,476 --> 00:47:27,445
thus a bribery charge.
1077
00:47:27,478 --> 00:47:29,580
- And Nick Bailey accused me
1078
00:47:29,614 --> 00:47:31,249
of handing the governor a check.
1079
00:47:31,282 --> 00:47:34,219
He said that Richard came in,
1080
00:47:34,252 --> 00:47:35,921
he gave a check to the governor,
1081
00:47:35,954 --> 00:47:37,522
then he said "I saw the check"
1082
00:47:37,555 --> 00:47:39,524
and he said it had
Richard had signed it
1083
00:47:39,557 --> 00:47:41,559
and it was a HealthSouth check.
1084
00:47:41,592 --> 00:47:43,895
Well, that was not true.
1085
00:47:43,929 --> 00:47:45,630
- [Narrator] Bailey also
testified that he personally
1086
00:47:45,663 --> 00:47:48,233
saw the check was
dated July 19th,
1087
00:47:48,266 --> 00:47:51,069
that it was drawn off of
a HealthSouth bank account
1088
00:47:51,102 --> 00:47:53,338
and that it had Richard
Scrushy's signature on it.
1089
00:47:53,371 --> 00:47:56,074
However, there was a big
problem with his testimony.
1090
00:47:56,107 --> 00:47:59,577
Records showed that the meeting
took place on June 29th,
1091
00:47:59,610 --> 00:48:02,147
almost three weeks
before the check was cut.
1092
00:48:02,180 --> 00:48:03,982
So there would be
no possible way
1093
00:48:04,015 --> 00:48:05,316
that he was telling the truth.
1094
00:48:05,350 --> 00:48:07,085
There was also
another big problem.
1095
00:48:07,118 --> 00:48:09,087
Prosecutors never
produced a check
1096
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,256
to corroborate
Bailey's accusation.
1097
00:48:11,289 --> 00:48:14,125
In fact, the check prosecutors
entered as evidence
1098
00:48:14,159 --> 00:48:16,261
came from an entirely
different company,
1099
00:48:16,294 --> 00:48:19,197
Integrated Health Services
from Baltimore, Maryland.
1100
00:48:19,230 --> 00:48:21,599
This contradicted
Bailey's testimony
1101
00:48:21,632 --> 00:48:24,102
that it was from HealthSouth
and signed by Scrushy.
1102
00:48:24,135 --> 00:48:25,503
- Come to find out
there was a company
1103
00:48:25,536 --> 00:48:28,206
called Integrated Health
Services that did give a check,
1104
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,409
but they didn't give him a
check till like July the 19th.
1105
00:48:31,442 --> 00:48:33,011
- It's not rocket science, man.
1106
00:48:33,044 --> 00:48:35,146
If the meeting
occurred on this day
1107
00:48:35,180 --> 00:48:37,949
and the check was
cut weeks later,
1108
00:48:37,983 --> 00:48:41,019
how could he have taken
that check to that meeting?
1109
00:48:41,052 --> 00:48:42,153
It didn't exist.
1110
00:48:42,187 --> 00:48:45,290
- [Narrator] The other
250,000 that prosecutors said
1111
00:48:45,323 --> 00:48:48,159
was part of the bribe was a
properly recorded donation
1112
00:48:48,193 --> 00:48:51,229
from HealthSouth to the
Education Referendum.
1113
00:48:51,262 --> 00:48:54,032
However, this transaction
occurred one year later
1114
00:48:54,065 --> 00:48:56,534
as he was leaving the CON Board.
1115
00:48:56,567 --> 00:48:59,604
Hardly a time to
pay off a bribe.
1116
00:48:59,637 --> 00:49:02,040
- There was no direct evidence
1117
00:49:02,073 --> 00:49:06,244
that Don Siegelman said give
me a $500,000 contribution
1118
00:49:07,745 --> 00:49:11,649
for the lottery campaign
and I will appoint you
1119
00:49:12,783 --> 00:49:16,287
to a seat on the
health siding board.
1120
00:49:16,321 --> 00:49:20,325
There was no explicit
evidence or testimony
1121
00:49:20,358 --> 00:49:21,692
with regard to that.
1122
00:49:21,726 --> 00:49:25,596
It was only implied and
under the Mccormick rule
1123
00:49:25,630 --> 00:49:30,235
that is not sufficient to
have a successful prosecution.
1124
00:49:30,268 --> 00:49:32,437
- [Narrator] In fact, it
was impossible for Siegelman
1125
00:49:32,470 --> 00:49:34,605
to have personally benefited
from the arrangement
1126
00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:36,474
because of two
important reasons.
1127
00:49:36,507 --> 00:49:39,644
One, he never received any
money or personal gain.
1128
00:49:39,677 --> 00:49:41,212
He simply raised funds
1129
00:49:41,246 --> 00:49:43,281
that went to non-profit
organizations.
1130
00:49:43,314 --> 00:49:46,217
Lastly, Siegelman was not
a guarantor on the debt
1131
00:49:46,251 --> 00:49:49,154
until after the referendum
had been defeated.
1132
00:49:49,187 --> 00:49:52,357
- I don't know of
any other politician
1133
00:49:53,358 --> 00:49:56,694
who was accused of
conspiracy charges
1134
00:49:56,727 --> 00:49:59,497
because he solicited
and received
1135
00:50:00,631 --> 00:50:01,832
a political contribution.
1136
00:50:01,866 --> 00:50:06,404
I know of other Americans who
made political contributions
1137
00:50:08,306 --> 00:50:11,209
to presidential
campaigns, for example,
1138
00:50:11,242 --> 00:50:14,412
and who ended up, rather
than being in jail,
1139
00:50:14,445 --> 00:50:16,281
being ambassadors.
1140
00:50:16,314 --> 00:50:17,648
- When we talk about bad faith,
1141
00:50:17,682 --> 00:50:20,285
you talk about bad
faith charging,
1142
00:50:20,318 --> 00:50:25,056
this was as bad a faith
example of misprosecution
1143
00:50:25,090 --> 00:50:28,826
as any that I have seen
in my years of study
1144
00:50:28,859 --> 00:50:31,562
of misconduct by prosecutors.
1145
00:50:31,596 --> 00:50:34,332
- And just so you know
how ludicrous this is,
1146
00:50:34,365 --> 00:50:37,402
this theory of bribery
that I'm describing
1147
00:50:37,435 --> 00:50:40,738
has never been used
in this country,
1148
00:50:40,771 --> 00:50:43,108
in any federal court
in this country.
1149
00:50:43,141 --> 00:50:45,310
Note, the Justice
Department had never pursued
1150
00:50:45,343 --> 00:50:46,611
that theory of bribery.
1151
00:50:46,644 --> 00:50:48,446
- [Narrator] Scrushy had
served on the CON Board
1152
00:50:48,479 --> 00:50:50,115
for the previous 12 years
1153
00:50:50,148 --> 00:50:52,717
under three earlier
governors from both parties.
1154
00:50:52,750 --> 00:50:54,785
During that time, he
and other board members
1155
00:50:54,819 --> 00:50:57,388
had donated directly to those
governors' campaign funds,
1156
00:50:57,422 --> 00:51:00,425
the same thing that happens
thousands of times every year
1157
00:51:00,458 --> 00:51:02,627
with virtually all
elected officials.
1158
00:51:02,660 --> 00:51:04,329
In this case, however,
1159
00:51:04,362 --> 00:51:07,398
the donation did not even come
from Scrushy or HealthSouth
1160
00:51:07,432 --> 00:51:10,301
and it went to a
separate 501c3 fund
1161
00:51:10,335 --> 00:51:12,403
that did not personally
benefit Governor Siegelman.
1162
00:51:12,437 --> 00:51:15,140
There are also logical
reasons Richard Scrushy
1163
00:51:15,173 --> 00:51:17,675
didn't bribe his way
on to the CON Board.
1164
00:51:17,708 --> 00:51:21,646
- As chairman of the transition
team for Governor Siegelman,
1165
00:51:21,679 --> 00:51:25,683
I tried to find the best
people in the state of Alabama
1166
00:51:25,716 --> 00:51:29,387
that could serve him
as Governor of Alabama.
1167
00:51:30,855 --> 00:51:33,358
I went to see Richard Scrushy.
1168
00:51:34,525 --> 00:51:37,695
He and I sat down and
had breakfast together.
1169
00:51:37,728 --> 00:51:41,366
I said "Richard, you
served three times.
1170
00:51:41,399 --> 00:51:44,569
"You know the CON Board
better than anybody else
1171
00:51:44,602 --> 00:51:45,503
"I can name
1172
00:51:46,871 --> 00:51:50,775
"and I want you to consider
serving another term
1173
00:51:53,344 --> 00:51:54,679
"on the CON Board."
1174
00:51:55,580 --> 00:51:58,249
What did Richard Scrushy say?
1175
00:51:58,283 --> 00:52:02,387
"No, I will not serve
another term on that board.
1176
00:52:04,389 --> 00:52:07,392
"I've served three different
governors in the past.
1177
00:52:07,425 --> 00:52:09,194
"I do not want to do it."
1178
00:52:09,227 --> 00:52:11,529
- I was asked by Elmer Harris,
1179
00:52:12,663 --> 00:52:15,433
who was chief of
his transition team,
1180
00:52:15,466 --> 00:52:16,701
and he asked me to serve
1181
00:52:16,734 --> 00:52:18,536
and I said "No, Elmer,
I'm not gonna serve."
1182
00:52:18,569 --> 00:52:20,338
It takes an entire
day every month.
1183
00:52:20,371 --> 00:52:21,672
I'm running a
Fortune 500 company,
1184
00:52:21,706 --> 00:52:23,408
a New York Stock
Exchange Company,
1185
00:52:23,441 --> 00:52:26,411
it takes a day to prepare,
it takes a day of your time,
1186
00:52:26,444 --> 00:52:28,813
so that's two days a month,
we only have 20 working days,
1187
00:52:28,846 --> 00:52:29,714
I just can't do it.
1188
00:52:29,747 --> 00:52:31,649
- I said "Now, Richard,
1189
00:52:33,851 --> 00:52:38,523
"what I want you to do if
you're not gonna tell me is
1190
00:52:38,556 --> 00:52:42,360
"I want you to tell me that
you will seriously reconsider."
1191
00:52:42,393 --> 00:52:44,762
- And he said "You're the
most qualified person we have.
1192
00:52:44,795 --> 00:52:46,464
"You run the largest
healthcare company
1193
00:52:46,497 --> 00:52:47,432
"in the state of Alabama.
1194
00:52:47,465 --> 00:52:48,733
"We want you to serve."
1195
00:52:48,766 --> 00:52:50,435
I said I'd do one year.
1196
00:52:50,468 --> 00:52:53,938
Out of a three-year term, I'll
serve one year and that's it.
1197
00:52:53,971 --> 00:52:56,774
(gentle music)
1198
00:52:56,807 --> 00:52:59,277
(clicking)
1199
00:53:04,449 --> 00:53:06,851
(gloomy music)
1200
00:53:10,555 --> 00:53:12,990
- [Narrator] The judge on the
case was Mark Everett Fuller
1201
00:53:13,023 --> 00:53:15,526
who had been appointed by
the Bush Administration
1202
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:16,994
four years earlier.
1203
00:53:17,027 --> 00:53:19,697
- We basically got
nothing from Judge Fuller.
1204
00:53:19,730 --> 00:53:21,532
The best comparison I could make
1205
00:53:21,566 --> 00:53:24,669
would be if you think
about the movie Gladiator
1206
00:53:24,702 --> 00:53:28,273
where people are fighting
on numerous fronts
1207
00:53:28,306 --> 00:53:30,408
with numerous
people against them.
1208
00:53:30,441 --> 00:53:32,277
That's how the trial felt.
1209
00:53:32,310 --> 00:53:34,379
Not only am I fighting
against the government,
1210
00:53:34,412 --> 00:53:35,480
I'm fighting
against the evidence
1211
00:53:35,513 --> 00:53:37,282
submitted by the government,
1212
00:53:37,315 --> 00:53:39,484
but I was also
fighting with the court
1213
00:53:39,517 --> 00:53:41,486
and it was a losing battle
1214
00:53:41,519 --> 00:53:43,954
in that motions
that we would file
1215
00:53:43,988 --> 00:53:48,426
that are normally
granted without any
serious consideration
1216
00:53:48,459 --> 00:53:50,361
were absolutely denied.
1217
00:53:50,395 --> 00:53:51,996
Trials are supposed to be fair
1218
00:53:52,029 --> 00:53:53,831
and not inherently prejudicial.
1219
00:53:53,864 --> 00:53:56,367
- After the jury was
sent out to deliberate
1220
00:53:56,401 --> 00:53:58,403
and they came back with a note,
1221
00:53:58,436 --> 00:54:01,872
they asked the judge can
a campaign contribution
1222
00:54:01,906 --> 00:54:04,375
be a thing of value
under that statute
1223
00:54:04,409 --> 00:54:06,911
or do they have to
find that Don Siegelman
1224
00:54:06,944 --> 00:54:08,546
benefited personally?
1225
00:54:08,579 --> 00:54:10,581
Faega jumps up and says
1226
00:54:10,615 --> 00:54:14,819
"The campaign contribution
can be a thing of value
1227
00:54:14,852 --> 00:54:17,788
"and it doesn't matter whether
you got a personal benefit."
1228
00:54:17,822 --> 00:54:20,991
Another argument he makes is
that it can be a thing of value
1229
00:54:21,025 --> 00:54:23,461
if he gets it
directly or indirectly
1230
00:54:23,494 --> 00:54:26,030
through some other foundation.
1231
00:54:26,063 --> 00:54:28,466
What's even more remarkable
1232
00:54:28,499 --> 00:54:31,602
that Judge Fuller says
a thing of value can be
1233
00:54:31,636 --> 00:54:35,005
something that improves
someone's political capital
1234
00:54:35,039 --> 00:54:37,074
on a platform on which he ran.
1235
00:54:37,107 --> 00:54:39,844
So Don Siegelman ran the
platform of a lottery
1236
00:54:39,877 --> 00:54:42,647
for an education referendum.
1237
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:43,481
- [Interviewer]
Doesn't make any sense.
1238
00:54:43,514 --> 00:54:44,882
- It makes no sense.
1239
00:54:44,915 --> 00:54:46,617
It's all a bunch of crap.
1240
00:54:46,651 --> 00:54:50,087
- Every person that is
probably sitting over there
1241
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,591
on any committee or any
board or any commission
1242
00:54:53,624 --> 00:54:55,626
or a cabinet members I'm
sure have contributed
1243
00:54:55,660 --> 00:54:58,596
to the current governor
or any governor.
1244
00:54:58,629 --> 00:55:01,799
- It was obvious to us that
Don and Richard had won.
1245
00:55:01,832 --> 00:55:04,469
I mean, they didn't
even put on a defense.
1246
00:55:04,502 --> 00:55:06,003
They hit it out
of the ball park.
1247
00:55:06,036 --> 00:55:09,006
I mean there was no way that
1248
00:55:09,039 --> 00:55:12,610
the prosecution proved their
case and we all knew it.
1249
00:55:12,643 --> 00:55:16,514
- And then they went out and
ultimately we got the verdict.
1250
00:55:16,547 --> 00:55:19,316
(gloomy music)
1251
00:55:28,726 --> 00:55:33,698
- Eventually the jury comes
back and throws out 25 counts
1252
00:55:33,731 --> 00:55:38,503
of the 32 counts that
were against Don Siegelman
1253
00:55:38,536 --> 00:55:40,371
and the sentence that he imposed
1254
00:55:40,405 --> 00:55:42,640
was an exceedingly
harsh sentence,
1255
00:55:42,673 --> 00:55:46,544
seven years and four
months of imprisonment.
1256
00:55:46,577 --> 00:55:50,615
That's a long sentence
for a situation where
1257
00:55:50,648 --> 00:55:53,618
Don Siegelman did not
personally benefit.
1258
00:55:53,651 --> 00:55:55,152
- [Narrator] The jury
acquitted Siegelman's
1259
00:55:55,185 --> 00:55:56,987
former chief of
staff Paul Hamrick
1260
00:55:57,021 --> 00:56:00,024
and former state transportation
secretary Mack Roberts
1261
00:56:00,057 --> 00:56:01,726
of all charges.
1262
00:56:01,759 --> 00:56:03,661
In June of the next year
at the sentencing hearing,
1263
00:56:03,694 --> 00:56:06,130
Judge Fuller, upon handing
down their sentences,
1264
00:56:06,163 --> 00:56:08,566
ordered both Richard
Scrushy and Don Siegelman
1265
00:56:08,599 --> 00:56:10,134
to be taken away immediately
1266
00:56:10,167 --> 00:56:12,637
with no time to say
goodbye to their families
1267
00:56:12,670 --> 00:56:15,072
or get their affairs in order.
1268
00:56:15,105 --> 00:56:18,509
- He had him bound and shackled
1269
00:56:18,543 --> 00:56:21,078
and carted off to
prison on the spot,
1270
00:56:21,111 --> 00:56:24,582
whereas almost any common
criminal in federal court
1271
00:56:24,615 --> 00:56:27,585
would be allowed to
report at a certain date.
1272
00:56:27,618 --> 00:56:29,820
I think that showed where
this guy was coming from.
1273
00:56:29,854 --> 00:56:33,758
- They shackled this man and
drug him out of the courthouse.
1274
00:56:33,791 --> 00:56:36,661
I mean it was like
something you would think
1275
00:56:36,694 --> 00:56:38,596
took place in a
third world country.
1276
00:56:38,629 --> 00:56:41,866
Sometimes I wonder if
I'm even close to that.
1277
00:56:41,899 --> 00:56:44,669
- Immediately our
lives have changed.
1278
00:56:44,702 --> 00:56:45,836
I mean when he was sentenced,
1279
00:56:45,870 --> 00:56:48,038
I was in such utter
shock I couldn't,
1280
00:56:48,072 --> 00:56:49,607
I didn't feel like
I could breathe.
1281
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,208
Two weeks it took
me to recuperate
1282
00:56:51,241 --> 00:56:53,744
and kind of gain
my composure again.
1283
00:56:53,778 --> 00:56:56,080
- I have a place down at
Seagrove Beach, Florida
1284
00:56:56,113 --> 00:56:57,915
right next to Rosemary Beach.
1285
00:56:57,948 --> 00:57:02,687
Karl Rove, I saw him
pedaling around on a bicycle,
1286
00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:06,190
poor guy looked like Elmer
Fudd or something, you know.
1287
00:57:06,223 --> 00:57:09,894
I then talked to a US
attorney, Steve Faega,
1288
00:57:11,529 --> 00:57:15,199
who I saw from a distance
and I thought it was him
1289
00:57:15,232 --> 00:57:19,136
going into Karl Rove's
house at Rosemary Beach
1290
00:57:19,169 --> 00:57:21,138
and they had a party there
1291
00:57:21,171 --> 00:57:22,840
and it was after
the Siegelman trial
1292
00:57:22,873 --> 00:57:25,175
and I don't know
if the prosecutors
1293
00:57:25,209 --> 00:57:27,878
should be attending a
party with Karl Rove.
1294
00:57:27,912 --> 00:57:29,680
- I don't think he ever
thought for a moment
1295
00:57:29,714 --> 00:57:31,816
they actually were so malicious
1296
00:57:31,849 --> 00:57:36,086
as to continue to
persecute and prosecute him
1297
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:37,822
until they got a conviction
1298
00:57:37,855 --> 00:57:41,626
and I think that's what
shocked him more than anything.
1299
00:57:41,659 --> 00:57:42,827
- Thank you.
1300
00:57:42,860 --> 00:57:45,763
God bless you and God bless
the great state of Alabama.
1301
00:57:45,796 --> 00:57:48,032
(applause)
1302
00:57:54,739 --> 00:57:56,841
(gentle music)
1303
00:57:56,874 --> 00:57:59,109
(clicking)
1304
00:58:03,614 --> 00:58:05,983
(solemn music)
1305
00:58:07,885 --> 00:58:09,820
- [Narrator] Since the
Siegelman Scrushy conviction,
1306
00:58:09,854 --> 00:58:12,590
a virtual landslide of new
information has come out
1307
00:58:12,623 --> 00:58:14,058
that points toward
their innocence.
1308
00:58:14,091 --> 00:58:15,860
Even more disturbing
than the depth
1309
00:58:15,893 --> 00:58:17,094
of the misconduct on the case
1310
00:58:17,127 --> 00:58:18,896
is the extensive amount
of time and effort
1311
00:58:18,929 --> 00:58:20,731
that was spent to
cover it all up.
1312
00:58:20,765 --> 00:58:23,267
- It just didn't feel like
there was a level playing field.
1313
00:58:23,300 --> 00:58:25,936
That's the best way
I knew to put it.
1314
00:58:25,970 --> 00:58:28,673
But then there was the
jury and you thought
1315
00:58:28,706 --> 00:58:31,576
you know, this doesn't feel
like a level playing field,
1316
00:58:31,609 --> 00:58:34,545
but they can't get to the jury.
1317
00:58:34,579 --> 00:58:35,312
But they did.
1318
00:58:35,345 --> 00:58:38,583
(gloomy music)
1319
00:58:38,616 --> 00:58:41,085
- I can't remember exactly how
long after the trial it was,
1320
00:58:41,118 --> 00:58:44,088
but I received a letter,
an anonymous letter
1321
00:58:44,121 --> 00:58:47,858
in the mail at my office
and when I opened it
1322
00:58:49,226 --> 00:58:53,631
it clearly was an email
exchange between jurors.
1323
00:58:53,664 --> 00:58:54,899
Unmistakable.
1324
00:58:54,932 --> 00:58:57,602
- Some information came
to light that jurors
1325
00:58:57,635 --> 00:59:00,738
were possibly communicating
with each other during the trial
1326
00:59:00,771 --> 00:59:02,607
where they spoke specifically
1327
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:03,841
about how to convict
Governor Siegelman
1328
00:59:03,874 --> 00:59:06,911
and some of their
personal feelings about
Governor Siegelman
1329
00:59:06,944 --> 00:59:08,212
and they were not positive.
1330
00:59:08,245 --> 00:59:09,379
- [Narrator] The
letter, received by
all defense attorneys,
1331
00:59:09,413 --> 00:59:12,750
contained printed emails
between jurors from the case.
1332
00:59:12,783 --> 00:59:15,786
Two of those emails were dated
before deliberations began
1333
00:59:15,820 --> 00:59:17,588
and revealed that
at least one juror
1334
00:59:17,622 --> 00:59:19,857
had actively plotted to
convince other jurors
1335
00:59:19,890 --> 00:59:22,993
to vote guilty even before all
the evidence had been heard.
1336
00:59:23,027 --> 00:59:25,863
- Jurors nationwide,
state, federal court,
1337
00:59:25,896 --> 00:59:29,834
are always instructed that
their discussions about the case
1338
00:59:29,867 --> 00:59:31,368
have to occur in the jury room
1339
00:59:31,401 --> 00:59:33,070
where all the
jurors are present.
1340
00:59:33,103 --> 00:59:37,307
So I mean basically the way
that it appeared in these emails
1341
00:59:37,341 --> 00:59:40,711
was that a group of jurors
were getting together
1342
00:59:40,745 --> 00:59:43,848
to lobby the other
jurors to convict
1343
00:59:43,881 --> 00:59:45,315
and that's just it's improper.
1344
00:59:45,349 --> 00:59:46,884
- [Narrator] The emails
were between jury foreman
1345
00:59:46,917 --> 00:59:49,754
Sam Hendrix and
juror Katie Langer,
1346
00:59:49,787 --> 00:59:51,889
also known as Flipper
by the other jurors
1347
00:59:51,922 --> 00:59:54,224
because she performed
gymnastics in the jury room.
1348
00:59:54,258 --> 00:59:56,894
They revealed that Langer
held a strong predisposition
1349
00:59:56,927 --> 00:59:57,995
against the defendants
1350
00:59:58,028 --> 00:59:59,897
whom she pejoratively
referred to
1351
00:59:59,930 --> 01:00:01,766
as the governor and the pastor.
1352
01:00:01,799 --> 01:00:03,968
Scrushy occasionally
preached at a local church.
1353
01:00:04,001 --> 01:00:06,403
In one message dated
before deliberations,
1354
01:00:06,436 --> 01:00:09,674
Langer continued to
pressure juror 30 to convict
1355
01:00:09,707 --> 01:00:11,976
before all the evidence and
arguments had been heard.
1356
01:00:12,009 --> 01:00:13,811
It also revealed
that she and Hendrix
1357
01:00:13,844 --> 01:00:16,113
had accessed
outside information.
1358
01:00:16,146 --> 01:00:18,115
With an obvious lack
of impartiality,
1359
01:00:18,148 --> 01:00:21,118
Langer said that all
public officials are scum
1360
01:00:21,151 --> 01:00:23,854
and that both defendants
were up shit creek.
1361
01:00:23,888 --> 01:00:25,355
Later, she even
referred to Siegelman's
1362
01:00:25,389 --> 01:00:26,957
and Scrushy's
previous acquittals,
1363
01:00:26,991 --> 01:00:29,927
stating "They missed
before, but we won't"
1364
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,730
as though her influence in
this trial could make up
1365
01:00:32,763 --> 01:00:35,165
for how she thought those
other trials should have ended.
1366
01:00:35,199 --> 01:00:37,434
Both Hendrix and Langer
have since denied
1367
01:00:37,467 --> 01:00:39,804
sending or receiving
those emails.
1368
01:00:39,837 --> 01:00:41,438
When the defense brought
the matter to the court,
1369
01:00:41,471 --> 01:00:43,941
Judge Fuller surprisingly
ordered the defense
1370
01:00:43,974 --> 01:00:45,943
and the prosecution
to drop the matter
1371
01:00:45,976 --> 01:00:48,378
and not investigate
their authenticity.
1372
01:00:48,412 --> 01:00:50,380
- It would have, almost
without question,
1373
01:00:50,414 --> 01:00:52,016
caused a mistrial.
1374
01:00:52,049 --> 01:00:53,951
In other words, the
original verdicts
1375
01:00:53,984 --> 01:00:54,919
would have been thrown out
1376
01:00:54,952 --> 01:00:56,253
and we would have been
on for a new trial.
1377
01:00:56,286 --> 01:00:59,356
The jurors were
emailing each other
1378
01:00:59,389 --> 01:01:02,893
and conducting basically
strategy sessions.
1379
01:01:02,927 --> 01:01:06,430
That could have been
easily disclosed
1380
01:01:06,463 --> 01:01:09,366
simply by going to the ISP
providers with an order
1381
01:01:09,399 --> 01:01:11,969
and getting all of those
emails and just seeing
1382
01:01:12,002 --> 01:01:15,272
are these emails that were
revealed to us anonymously,
1383
01:01:15,305 --> 01:01:16,406
are they genuine.
1384
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:17,908
We were denied.
1385
01:01:19,076 --> 01:01:21,912
(gentle music)
1386
01:01:21,946 --> 01:01:24,014
(clicking)
1387
01:01:28,052 --> 01:01:30,821
(gloomy music)
1388
01:01:34,091 --> 01:01:35,192
- [Narrator] Several
months later,
1389
01:01:35,225 --> 01:01:37,962
Jill Simpson, a local lawyer
and republican activist
1390
01:01:37,995 --> 01:01:40,731
who had been working for years
to dig up dirt on Siegelman,
1391
01:01:40,765 --> 01:01:41,799
had a change of heart.
1392
01:01:41,832 --> 01:01:44,268
She provided defense
attorneys with an affidavit
1393
01:01:44,301 --> 01:01:46,003
describing how she witnessed
1394
01:01:46,036 --> 01:01:48,939
Alabama Republicans use
the Justice Department
1395
01:01:48,973 --> 01:01:51,408
to target Siegelman for
political prosecution.
1396
01:01:51,441 --> 01:01:53,210
Her story caught the
eye of 60 Minutes
1397
01:01:53,243 --> 01:01:56,180
and was featured in their
lead segment on the case.
1398
01:01:56,213 --> 01:01:59,083
- [Man] A Republican lawyer
from Alabama, Jill Simpson,
1399
01:01:59,116 --> 01:02:02,319
has come forward to claim
that the Siegelman prosecution
1400
01:02:02,352 --> 01:02:05,089
was part of a five-year
secret campaign
1401
01:02:05,122 --> 01:02:06,791
to ruin the governor.
1402
01:02:06,824 --> 01:02:11,061
- Jill, because of the
way she came forward
1403
01:02:11,095 --> 01:02:13,798
to report ethical violations
1404
01:02:13,831 --> 01:02:16,867
of the Justice Department
of the United States,
1405
01:02:16,901 --> 01:02:21,105
of Karl Rove in instigating
for political reasons
1406
01:02:21,138 --> 01:02:25,375
an improper, unfounded
political prosecution
1407
01:02:25,409 --> 01:02:29,479
of Governor Siegelman by
the Justice Department,
1408
01:02:29,513 --> 01:02:33,250
she had an ethical duty to
report this and she did.
1409
01:02:33,283 --> 01:02:36,086
So her affidavit
accurately reported
1410
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,957
a telephone conversation
that Jill Simpson had
1411
01:02:39,990 --> 01:02:41,792
with Bill Canary,
1412
01:02:41,826 --> 01:02:44,962
the head of the Business
Council of Alabama,
1413
01:02:44,995 --> 01:02:49,399
Rob Riley, the son of
Governor Bob Riley of Alabama,
1414
01:02:49,433 --> 01:02:53,037
and in the conversation
the subject was
1415
01:02:53,070 --> 01:02:56,040
how to prevent
Governor Siegelman
1416
01:02:56,073 --> 01:02:58,108
from running again in 2006.
1417
01:03:00,444 --> 01:03:02,346
- Bill Canary assured her,
1418
01:03:02,379 --> 01:03:06,250
when she was working on the
campaign against Siegelman,
1419
01:03:06,283 --> 01:03:08,052
"You don't have to
worry about Siegelman.
1420
01:03:08,085 --> 01:03:09,253
"Don't worry about Siegelman.
1421
01:03:09,286 --> 01:03:12,022
"My girls are gonna
take care of Siegelman"
1422
01:03:12,056 --> 01:03:14,458
and she said "What do
you mean my girls?"
1423
01:03:14,491 --> 01:03:17,828
and he said "Well, my
wife Leura Canary,"
1424
01:03:17,862 --> 01:03:22,132
who's the US attorney in the
Middle District of Alabama,
1425
01:03:22,166 --> 01:03:24,134
and Alice Martin
who's the US attorney
1426
01:03:24,168 --> 01:03:26,103
in the Northern
District of Alabama,
1427
01:03:26,136 --> 01:03:28,172
"They'll take care of things."
1428
01:03:28,205 --> 01:03:29,339
- [Narrator] During
their investigation,
1429
01:03:29,373 --> 01:03:31,575
60 Minutes also found
that prosecutors
1430
01:03:31,608 --> 01:03:33,377
withheld exculpatory evidence
1431
01:03:33,410 --> 01:03:36,146
involving their key
witness, Nick Bailey.
1432
01:03:36,180 --> 01:03:38,849
- [Man] Bailey told us that
before the Siegelman trial
1433
01:03:38,883 --> 01:03:42,186
he spoke to prosecutors
more than 70 times.
1434
01:03:42,219 --> 01:03:45,255
He told us that the
prosecutors were so frustrated,
1435
01:03:45,289 --> 01:03:48,125
they made him write
his proposed testimony
1436
01:03:48,158 --> 01:03:51,996
over and over just to
get his story straight.
1437
01:03:52,029 --> 01:03:53,430
- That got them so frustrated
1438
01:03:53,463 --> 01:03:55,465
that Bailey couldn't
get his story straight
1439
01:03:55,499 --> 01:03:58,035
that they asked him
just to write it out.
1440
01:03:58,068 --> 01:04:01,171
We were trying to get every
bit of that information.
1441
01:04:01,205 --> 01:04:03,040
We asked for that.
1442
01:04:03,073 --> 01:04:05,342
The government's
response was well,
1443
01:04:05,375 --> 01:04:09,546
if Mr. Bailey wrote out his
testimony, we don't have it.
1444
01:04:11,181 --> 01:04:14,184
That would easily be
another way to overturn
1445
01:04:14,218 --> 01:04:16,954
Governor Siegelman's conviction.
1446
01:04:16,987 --> 01:04:18,488
- [Narrator] Bailey claimed
that he handed the notes
1447
01:04:18,522 --> 01:04:21,158
over to his attorney, George
Beck, for safekeeping.
1448
01:04:21,191 --> 01:04:23,093
Beck, the attorney
that cut the deal
1449
01:04:23,127 --> 01:04:24,561
for him to testify
against Siegelman,
1450
01:04:24,594 --> 01:04:26,196
has denied ever
having the binder
1451
01:04:26,230 --> 01:04:28,498
containing those notes
in his possession.
1452
01:04:28,532 --> 01:04:30,600
- After the 60
Minutes report aired,
1453
01:04:30,634 --> 01:04:32,136
I mean they all...
1454
01:04:33,537 --> 01:04:36,206
Everybody ran around like
their hair was on fire
1455
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,075
denying this had ever happened.
1456
01:04:38,108 --> 01:04:42,146
Nick's attorney claimed
he never had a binder
1457
01:04:42,179 --> 01:04:44,381
full of questions and answers.
1458
01:04:44,414 --> 01:04:47,251
All of things that
Nick had confirmed
1459
01:04:47,284 --> 01:04:48,953
to the people at CBS.
1460
01:04:48,986 --> 01:04:50,654
- [Narrator] The 60 Minutes
bombshell gave the defense
1461
01:04:50,687 --> 01:04:52,422
the national
attention it deserved,
1462
01:04:52,456 --> 01:04:54,091
however, there was
more to Simpson's story
1463
01:04:54,124 --> 01:04:56,060
that was not covered
in the report.
1464
01:04:56,093 --> 01:04:58,062
- And then when Jill
Simpson indicated
1465
01:04:58,095 --> 01:05:01,231
that Rob Riley further
went on to tell her
1466
01:05:01,265 --> 01:05:03,100
that they had a judge picked out
1467
01:05:03,133 --> 01:05:06,270
to preside over
any Siegelman trial
1468
01:05:06,303 --> 01:05:09,006
and this judge was Mark Fuller
1469
01:05:10,207 --> 01:05:14,078
and he could be counted
upon to hang Don Siegelman.
1470
01:05:15,312 --> 01:05:16,947
- [Narrator] When Fuller
received his appointment
1471
01:05:16,981 --> 01:05:19,283
by the Bush Administration
to the federal bench,
1472
01:05:19,316 --> 01:05:21,351
he vacated his job
as district attorney
1473
01:05:21,385 --> 01:05:22,953
in Enterprise, Alabama.
1474
01:05:22,987 --> 01:05:25,122
As then governor, Siegelman
filled the position
1475
01:05:25,155 --> 01:05:27,024
and a customary
audit was performed
1476
01:05:27,057 --> 01:05:28,358
on Fuller's old office.
1477
01:05:28,392 --> 01:05:30,995
The result found that
Fuller had misappropriated
1478
01:05:31,028 --> 01:05:34,231
over $300,000 in
state retirement funds
1479
01:05:34,264 --> 01:05:36,700
when he spiked the salary
of one of his employees.
1480
01:05:36,733 --> 01:05:38,235
Although no charges were filed,
1481
01:05:38,268 --> 01:05:40,237
it was a clear
case of misconduct
1482
01:05:40,270 --> 01:05:42,506
and very embarrassing for
a new up-and-coming judge
1483
01:05:42,539 --> 01:05:44,274
to be seen as dishonest.
1484
01:05:44,308 --> 01:05:46,510
Fuller blamed Siegelman
and publicly stated
1485
01:05:46,543 --> 01:05:49,379
that the governor's actions
were politically motivated.
1486
01:05:49,413 --> 01:05:51,148
- Don Siegelman
called his hand on it.
1487
01:05:51,181 --> 01:05:53,083
The judge was
publicly embarrassed.
1488
01:05:53,117 --> 01:05:54,484
The judge even
commented in the paper
1489
01:05:54,518 --> 01:05:57,421
that Don Siegelman had
damaged him politically.
1490
01:05:57,454 --> 01:06:00,290
- This was an issue that
caused a major embarrassment
1491
01:06:00,324 --> 01:06:01,458
for Mark Fuller.
1492
01:06:01,491 --> 01:06:05,129
Instead of doing the right
thing and recusing himself,
1493
01:06:05,162 --> 01:06:07,531
Mark Fuller saw that as an
opportunity for payback.
1494
01:06:07,564 --> 01:06:10,300
- This judge had a political
beef with Don Siegelman.
1495
01:06:10,334 --> 01:06:12,169
How did he end up
sitting on the bench?
1496
01:06:12,202 --> 01:06:15,072
He was the chief judge of the
Middle District of Alabama.
1497
01:06:15,105 --> 01:06:17,341
So he could do basically
what he wanted to do.
1498
01:06:17,374 --> 01:06:20,110
All he had do is say I don't
have a conflict of interest
1499
01:06:20,144 --> 01:06:21,211
and that's the end of story
1500
01:06:21,245 --> 01:06:22,746
and that's exactly
what happened.
1501
01:06:22,779 --> 01:06:24,648
So we ended up with a judge
with a conflict of interest
1502
01:06:24,681 --> 01:06:27,351
and a prosecutor with
a conflict of interest
1503
01:06:27,384 --> 01:06:28,585
and when those things
are mounted against you,
1504
01:06:28,618 --> 01:06:31,221
it's almost
impossible to prevail.
1505
01:06:31,255 --> 01:06:34,291
- He sat as judge in this case
1506
01:06:34,324 --> 01:06:38,295
and he ensured that there
was not a finger on the scale
1507
01:06:39,496 --> 01:06:41,265
supporting the prosecutor,
1508
01:06:41,298 --> 01:06:44,368
but a fist coming down on
the side of the prosecution,
1509
01:06:44,401 --> 01:06:47,271
ensuring that this case was
gonna result in a conviction.
1510
01:06:47,304 --> 01:06:50,040
(gentle music)
1511
01:06:50,074 --> 01:06:52,309
(clicking)
1512
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,182
- [Narrator] Almost
immediately after Siegelman
1513
01:06:58,215 --> 01:07:00,517
filed his appeal with the
11th Circuit in Atlanta,
1514
01:07:00,550 --> 01:07:02,152
his attorneys received a letter
1515
01:07:02,186 --> 01:07:03,387
from the Department of Justice
1516
01:07:03,420 --> 01:07:05,222
admitting to their
own wrongdoing.
1517
01:07:05,255 --> 01:07:08,658
- During the appeal of Don's
case to the 11th Circuit,
1518
01:07:08,692 --> 01:07:12,062
we get a letter from the
appellate lawyer named Stemler.
1519
01:07:12,096 --> 01:07:15,332
I guess her conscious
was hurting her.
1520
01:07:15,365 --> 01:07:17,501
Anyways, she wrote a long
letter to the lawyers
1521
01:07:17,534 --> 01:07:21,238
and confessed that what
the government had done
1522
01:07:21,271 --> 01:07:24,374
with regard to some juror emails
1523
01:07:24,408 --> 01:07:26,576
that we had gotten
anonymously after the trial
1524
01:07:26,610 --> 01:07:29,279
that showed jurors were
communicating back and forth,
1525
01:07:29,313 --> 01:07:31,415
which is a big no-no.
1526
01:07:31,448 --> 01:07:32,216
- [Narrator] If you recall,
1527
01:07:32,249 --> 01:07:33,683
the matter regarding
juror emails
1528
01:07:33,717 --> 01:07:35,752
between Katie Langer
and Sam Hendrix
1529
01:07:35,785 --> 01:07:36,986
was taken for Judge Fuller.
1530
01:07:37,020 --> 01:07:40,390
The defense asked the court
to subpoena the ISP providers
1531
01:07:40,424 --> 01:07:43,393
to find out if those emails
were in fact legitimate.
1532
01:07:43,427 --> 01:07:45,295
Judge Fuller denied
their requests
1533
01:07:45,329 --> 01:07:48,098
and instructed both sides
to simply do nothing.
1534
01:07:48,132 --> 01:07:49,833
Defense attorneys believed
the matter was over,
1535
01:07:49,866 --> 01:07:52,202
however, unbeknownst
to them at the time
1536
01:07:52,236 --> 01:07:54,571
the prosecution
secretly took action.
1537
01:07:54,604 --> 01:07:58,142
- Louis Franklin had
asked the Marshals Service
1538
01:07:58,175 --> 01:07:59,643
and the Postal Inspectors
1539
01:07:59,676 --> 01:08:03,147
to investigate the
authenticity of the email.
1540
01:08:03,180 --> 01:08:04,381
Well that was on the tee.
1541
01:08:04,414 --> 01:08:06,216
Are they authentic or not?
1542
01:08:06,250 --> 01:08:07,651
If they're not
authentic, forget it.
1543
01:08:07,684 --> 01:08:10,354
They're authentic, big
problem for the government.
1544
01:08:10,387 --> 01:08:12,822
So we get what I call
the Stemler letter
1545
01:08:12,856 --> 01:08:16,293
and she said "I just want to
let you that Mr. Franklin,
1546
01:08:16,326 --> 01:08:19,329
"one of the prosecutors,
had asked the Postal Service
1547
01:08:19,363 --> 01:08:22,266
"to investigate the
authenticity of the emails
1548
01:08:22,299 --> 01:08:25,235
"and in fact they did
and they determined that
1549
01:08:25,269 --> 01:08:27,237
"they were not genuine"
1550
01:08:27,271 --> 01:08:29,506
and we never heard about that.
1551
01:08:29,539 --> 01:08:32,876
- They withheld the
information until such time
1552
01:08:32,909 --> 01:08:34,478
that we could not use it.
1553
01:08:34,511 --> 01:08:36,313
They informed us
of this information
1554
01:08:36,346 --> 01:08:38,815
after the appeal had
already been filed.
1555
01:08:38,848 --> 01:08:40,484
- [Narrator] Even
though the letter stated
1556
01:08:40,517 --> 01:08:41,885
that the emails
were not genuine,
1557
01:08:41,918 --> 01:08:43,720
the defense had no
way of verifying
1558
01:08:43,753 --> 01:08:46,223
whether the investigation
was conducted properly
1559
01:08:46,256 --> 01:08:47,424
or even at all.
1560
01:08:47,457 --> 01:08:49,493
Regardless of whether the
emails were authentic or not,
1561
01:08:49,526 --> 01:08:51,361
the issue highlights
four major problems
1562
01:08:51,395 --> 01:08:53,763
that each alone should have
brought about a new trial.
1563
01:08:53,797 --> 01:08:56,633
One, the prosecution
defied the judge's order
1564
01:08:56,666 --> 01:08:58,468
to not investigate the matter,
1565
01:08:58,502 --> 01:09:00,637
ex-parte communication
occurred when prosecutors
1566
01:09:00,670 --> 01:09:03,307
discussed the issue in
private with Judge Fuller
1567
01:09:03,340 --> 01:09:05,742
and outside the presence
of defense attorneys,
1568
01:09:05,775 --> 01:09:08,178
there were failures
to disclose when, one,
1569
01:09:08,212 --> 01:09:10,347
prosecutors deliberately
suppressed their efforts
1570
01:09:10,380 --> 01:09:12,382
from the defense and when
the Department of Justice
1571
01:09:12,416 --> 01:09:14,851
admitted to withholding
key information
1572
01:09:14,884 --> 01:09:15,985
up until the moment the defense
1573
01:09:16,019 --> 01:09:19,556
no longer had any recourse
to rectify the misconduct.
1574
01:09:19,589 --> 01:09:22,926
- We filed motions
in the 11th Circuit
1575
01:09:22,959 --> 01:09:26,330
to try to get a special
master to investigate this,
1576
01:09:26,363 --> 01:09:30,434
but by that time the thing
had moved on to appeal process
1577
01:09:30,467 --> 01:09:32,569
and it's just not a good forum
1578
01:09:32,602 --> 01:09:34,571
to investigate
that kind of thing.
1579
01:09:34,604 --> 01:09:37,474
The Constitution demanded
we be told about that
1580
01:09:37,507 --> 01:09:38,842
and we were not.
1581
01:09:40,510 --> 01:09:43,813
Something needs to be
done about that one.
1582
01:09:45,415 --> 01:09:48,218
(gentle music)
1583
01:09:49,018 --> 01:09:51,488
(clicking)
1584
01:09:55,559 --> 01:09:58,362
(solemn music)
1585
01:10:02,632 --> 01:10:05,602
- These were obviously
incredibly disturbing things
1586
01:10:05,635 --> 01:10:07,571
that people were hearing
1587
01:10:07,604 --> 01:10:11,775
and then it was followed up
by a letter by a paralegal,
1588
01:10:13,910 --> 01:10:15,512
Tamarah Grimes,
1589
01:10:15,545 --> 01:10:18,415
who was a member of
the prosecution team,
1590
01:10:18,448 --> 01:10:20,650
to the Attorney General
of the United States
1591
01:10:20,684 --> 01:10:23,753
outlining a series
of irregularities
1592
01:10:23,787 --> 01:10:25,755
that she was very,
very concerned about.
1593
01:10:25,789 --> 01:10:28,592
- [Narrator] As a paralegal
working for the prosecution team
1594
01:10:28,625 --> 01:10:30,494
Tamarah Grimes
provided an affidavit
1595
01:10:30,527 --> 01:10:33,430
revealing multiple counts
of prosecutorial misconduct
1596
01:10:33,463 --> 01:10:35,532
she had witnessed
behind closed doors
1597
01:10:35,565 --> 01:10:38,968
in the US Attorney's office
before and during the trial.
1598
01:10:39,002 --> 01:10:41,438
Supported by emails
and other documents,
1599
01:10:41,471 --> 01:10:44,574
she provided hard evidence
that showed Leura Canary
1600
01:10:44,608 --> 01:10:47,010
had in fact continued
working on the case
1601
01:10:47,043 --> 01:10:48,645
despite her so-called recusal.
1602
01:10:48,678 --> 01:10:51,047
Grimes also explained
in greater depth
1603
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,617
how Nick Bailey had been
pressured and cajoled
1604
01:10:53,650 --> 01:10:56,586
by Faega and Franklin
into falsely testifying
1605
01:10:56,620 --> 01:10:59,489
against his former boss
and Richard Scrushy.
1606
01:10:59,523 --> 01:11:01,625
Grimes also provided
evidence showing how
1607
01:11:01,658 --> 01:11:05,061
FBI agent Keith Baker, a
member of the prosecution team,
1608
01:11:05,094 --> 01:11:07,897
could have been in contact
with juror Katie Langer,
1609
01:11:07,931 --> 01:11:10,600
aka Flipper, during the trial.
1610
01:11:10,634 --> 01:11:13,603
In one email, anther member
of the prosecution team
1611
01:11:13,637 --> 01:11:16,506
referred to juror Katie
Langer as Flipper.
1612
01:11:16,540 --> 01:11:19,376
The question is how would
someone from the prosecution
1613
01:11:19,409 --> 01:11:22,512
have known that juror's
nicknamed Langer Flipper
1614
01:11:22,546 --> 01:11:26,716
unless they were in contact
with someone from the jury?
1615
01:11:28,017 --> 01:11:30,053
After two years of
following proper procedures
1616
01:11:30,086 --> 01:11:31,855
and filing authorized complaints
1617
01:11:31,888 --> 01:11:33,557
to the Justice Department,
1618
01:11:33,590 --> 01:11:36,025
she wrote a letter to then US
Attorney General Eric Holder
1619
01:11:36,059 --> 01:11:38,528
detailing the abuse
and misconduct
1620
01:11:38,562 --> 01:11:41,365
she had witnessed while
working with the prosecution.
1621
01:11:41,398 --> 01:11:44,668
Eight days later,
Holder fired her.
1622
01:11:44,701 --> 01:11:47,471
- You know, when presented
between a question
1623
01:11:47,504 --> 01:11:50,507
of clear-cut justice
what is right
1624
01:11:50,540 --> 01:11:53,777
and protecting the
institutional interests
1625
01:11:54,678 --> 01:11:56,446
of the Department of Justice,
1626
01:11:56,480 --> 01:11:58,782
this is never a close call
1627
01:11:58,815 --> 01:12:01,418
for the senior figures of
the Justice Department.
1628
01:12:01,451 --> 01:12:03,887
They will protect the
image and reputation
1629
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,623
of the institution every time.
1630
01:12:08,024 --> 01:12:10,627
(gentle music)
1631
01:12:11,628 --> 01:12:13,863
(clicking)
1632
01:12:18,535 --> 01:12:20,470
(gloomy music)
1633
01:12:20,504 --> 01:12:21,471
- [Narrator] During the trial,
1634
01:12:21,505 --> 01:12:23,707
everyone thought that
former HealthSouth CEO
1635
01:12:23,740 --> 01:12:26,610
Richard Scrushy was the
richest man in the courtroom,
1636
01:12:26,643 --> 01:12:27,477
but he wasn't.
1637
01:12:27,511 --> 01:12:29,713
That honor went to
Judge Mark Fuller.
1638
01:12:29,746 --> 01:12:31,781
In addition to his
federal judgeship,
1639
01:12:31,815 --> 01:12:34,718
Fuller also ran a company
called Doss Aviation
1640
01:12:34,751 --> 01:12:37,587
that relied almost entirely
on government contracts.
1641
01:12:37,621 --> 01:12:40,123
Around the same time
the prosecution rested,
1642
01:12:40,156 --> 01:12:44,027
Doss Aviation was awarded a
10-year Air Force contract
1643
01:12:44,060 --> 01:12:46,596
for a whopping $178 million.
1644
01:12:47,597 --> 01:12:48,865
(dramatic chord)
1645
01:12:48,898 --> 01:12:50,834
Something that could have
easily been influenced
1646
01:12:50,867 --> 01:12:54,137
by White House officials,
including Karl Rove.
1647
01:12:54,170 --> 01:12:57,774
- Doss Aviation is a
company that Mark Fuller
1648
01:12:57,807 --> 01:13:00,577
was the principle owner of.
1649
01:13:00,610 --> 01:13:02,612
So here is a prosecution
1650
01:13:03,980 --> 01:13:08,718
against Governor Siegelman
being brought by the government
1651
01:13:08,752 --> 01:13:12,789
and here's Mark Fuller
wearing his hat as a judge
1652
01:13:12,822 --> 01:13:16,426
in this case where
he's also wearing a hat
1653
01:13:16,460 --> 01:13:18,595
as a major contract,
1654
01:13:18,628 --> 01:13:21,164
beneficiary of major contracts
with the federal government.
1655
01:13:21,197 --> 01:13:24,067
- I looked at one point
at corruption sentences
1656
01:13:24,100 --> 01:13:25,702
that were handed
down for politicians
1657
01:13:25,735 --> 01:13:27,671
who actually engaged
in corruption
1658
01:13:27,704 --> 01:13:30,540
and it's like two years,
two and a half years,
1659
01:13:30,574 --> 01:13:31,708
that's sort of the norm.
1660
01:13:31,741 --> 01:13:33,577
He's been in for
four and a half years
1661
01:13:33,610 --> 01:13:35,612
and he didn't engage
in any corruption.
1662
01:13:35,645 --> 01:13:38,548
I mean it really is just
completely outrageous
1663
01:13:38,582 --> 01:13:41,785
and that's because of
Mark fucking Fuller,
1664
01:13:41,818 --> 01:13:44,488
you know, that crook.
1665
01:13:44,521 --> 01:13:45,789
He should be in jail.
1666
01:13:45,822 --> 01:13:48,792
I mean he should be in
jail for violent crimes.
1667
01:13:48,825 --> 01:13:50,093
- [Operator] What's going on?
1668
01:13:50,126 --> 01:13:52,061
- [Kelli] I'm in a domestic--
1669
01:13:52,095 --> 01:13:53,797
- [Operator] Excuse me?
1670
01:13:53,830 --> 01:13:55,231
- [Kelli] A domestic dispute.
1671
01:13:55,264 --> 01:13:58,702
- [Operator] Okay, with
yourself and who else?
1672
01:13:58,735 --> 01:14:01,237
- [Kelli] I'm
calling, I need help.
1673
01:14:01,270 --> 01:14:02,772
- [Operator] What's your name?
1674
01:14:02,806 --> 01:14:05,675
- [Kelli] Kelli Fuller.
1675
01:14:05,709 --> 01:14:07,677
- [Operator] Okay, do
you need an ambulance?
1676
01:14:07,711 --> 01:14:08,745
- [Kelli] Yes, please.
1677
01:14:08,778 --> 01:14:10,213
- [Operator] Kelli?
1678
01:14:10,246 --> 01:14:11,047
(whacking)
1679
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:11,881
Kelli?
1680
01:14:11,915 --> 01:14:13,650
(whacking)
1681
01:14:13,683 --> 01:14:16,152
Okay, she needs an ambulance.
1682
01:14:16,185 --> 01:14:17,821
I'm sending the police.
1683
01:14:17,854 --> 01:14:19,989
They're in a domestic fight
now at the Ritz-Carlton.
1684
01:14:20,023 --> 01:14:21,991
- [Kelli] Please help
me, he's beating on me.
1685
01:14:22,025 --> 01:14:23,927
I hate you, I hate you.
1686
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:25,094
- [Mark] I hate you.
1687
01:14:25,128 --> 01:14:26,229
I hate you too.
1688
01:14:26,262 --> 01:14:27,697
- [Operator] We're the EMS.
1689
01:14:27,731 --> 01:14:29,098
I need the address
of your emergency.
1690
01:14:29,132 --> 01:14:30,734
(mumbling)
1691
01:14:30,767 --> 01:14:32,536
- [Narrator] In August of 2014,
1692
01:14:32,569 --> 01:14:34,604
Atlanta Police were
called to a luxury hotel
1693
01:14:34,638 --> 01:14:37,607
in downtown Atlanta where they
arrested Judge Mark Fuller
1694
01:14:37,641 --> 01:14:40,610
for violently assaulting
his wife Kelli Gregg Fuller.
1695
01:14:40,644 --> 01:14:43,046
The report stated that he
had repeatedly struck Kelli
1696
01:14:43,079 --> 01:14:44,514
several times in the face
1697
01:14:44,548 --> 01:14:46,850
and even pulled clumps
of her from her scalp.
1698
01:14:46,883 --> 01:14:49,586
For the assault, Fuller
received a nominal sentence
1699
01:14:49,619 --> 01:14:50,554
for domestic abuse.
1700
01:14:50,587 --> 01:14:53,022
Fuller was forced to
resign from the bench.
1701
01:14:53,056 --> 01:14:55,859
In a scathing report issued
after the investigation,
1702
01:14:55,892 --> 01:14:57,794
a judiciary committee
found that Fuller
1703
01:14:57,827 --> 01:15:00,764
had abused his wife
at least eight times.
1704
01:15:00,797 --> 01:15:02,832
The report also
stated that Fuller
1705
01:15:02,866 --> 01:15:05,301
had made false statements
to the court years earlier
1706
01:15:05,334 --> 01:15:07,871
that caused, quote,
"massive disruption
1707
01:15:07,904 --> 01:15:09,906
"and loss of public
confidence in the court."
1708
01:15:09,939 --> 01:15:12,041
The report also suggested
that impeachment
1709
01:15:12,075 --> 01:15:13,743
should still be considered
1710
01:15:13,777 --> 01:15:16,079
even though he had already
resigned from the bench.
1711
01:15:16,112 --> 01:15:18,815
- That's the judge who
oversaw this entire process.
1712
01:15:18,848 --> 01:15:21,651
That's the judge that
these prosecutors
1713
01:15:21,685 --> 01:15:23,753
desperately wanted to
have handle the case.
1714
01:15:23,787 --> 01:15:25,622
A criminal judge,
1715
01:15:25,655 --> 01:15:27,657
not the judge who sits
in criminal cases,
1716
01:15:27,691 --> 01:15:29,893
but a judge who is a criminal
1717
01:15:29,926 --> 01:15:33,897
and who was ultimately
removed from the bench
1718
01:15:35,031 --> 01:15:38,702
based on his violent
criminal behavior.
1719
01:15:38,735 --> 01:15:41,137
(gentle music)
1720
01:15:42,606 --> 01:15:44,841
(clicking)
1721
01:15:48,912 --> 01:15:50,046
- [Narrator] Justice
Don Siegelman
1722
01:15:50,079 --> 01:15:51,915
had been convicted
in Fuller's court,
1723
01:15:51,948 --> 01:15:54,751
our story returns full
circle from where it began.
1724
01:15:54,784 --> 01:15:56,886
The Riley Administration
that once relied
1725
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,856
on under-the-table contributions
from Indian gaming interest
1726
01:15:59,889 --> 01:16:01,357
to get him elected governor
1727
01:16:01,390 --> 01:16:04,093
was now using his position
as the state's top lawmaker
1728
01:16:04,127 --> 01:16:07,230
to provide those Indian gaming
interests with protection.
1729
01:16:07,263 --> 01:16:09,799
It was Choctaw casino
cash that secretly funded
1730
01:16:09,833 --> 01:16:12,902
the Riley campaign to
defeat Siegelman in 2002,
1731
01:16:12,936 --> 01:16:15,772
but now the Republican
governor had a new benefactor,
1732
01:16:15,805 --> 01:16:17,306
the Poarch Creek Indian tribe
1733
01:16:17,340 --> 01:16:19,843
who operated two
casinos in Alabama.
1734
01:16:19,876 --> 01:16:22,045
Looking to expand his
influence even further,
1735
01:16:22,078 --> 01:16:24,147
Governor Riley summoned
Milton McGregor,
1736
01:16:24,180 --> 01:16:26,850
owner of Victoryland, the
state's largest casino
1737
01:16:26,883 --> 01:16:29,719
and primary competition for
the Poarch Creek Indians,
1738
01:16:29,753 --> 01:16:31,387
to his office in
the state capitol
1739
01:16:31,420 --> 01:16:32,956
with a point blank demand.
1740
01:16:32,989 --> 01:16:35,925
- When I met with Bob Riley
at his request at lunch
1741
01:16:35,959 --> 01:16:39,095
in the governor's office
at the state capitol,
1742
01:16:39,128 --> 01:16:42,632
within 10 minutes
after me walking into
that conference room
1743
01:16:42,666 --> 01:16:46,936
with him, he made it real clear
what he wanted to talk about
1744
01:16:46,970 --> 01:16:50,707
was me hiring Rob Riley
as one of my attorneys
1745
01:16:50,740 --> 01:16:54,343
and it wasn't a request,
it was like a demand,
1746
01:16:54,377 --> 01:16:56,746
which didn't sit
very well with me.
1747
01:16:56,780 --> 01:16:58,314
I didn't tell him
I'd think about it.
1748
01:16:58,347 --> 01:16:59,949
I told him no.
1749
01:16:59,983 --> 01:17:03,319
The meeting did not
go well at all because
1750
01:17:03,352 --> 01:17:06,155
the more he talked, the
more I got offended.
1751
01:17:06,189 --> 01:17:09,292
We got loud enough that his
receptionist opened the door
1752
01:17:09,325 --> 01:17:11,661
and asked if we were all right
1753
01:17:11,695 --> 01:17:14,998
because we were getting pretty
loud in there, he and I both.
1754
01:17:15,031 --> 01:17:17,000
- [Narrator] Riley critics,
including McGregor,
1755
01:17:17,033 --> 01:17:20,003
call his demand for payment as
nothing more than extortion.
1756
01:17:20,036 --> 01:17:21,771
Instead of cash under the table,
1757
01:17:21,805 --> 01:17:23,840
payment would come in
the form of legal fees
1758
01:17:23,873 --> 01:17:27,043
paid to the law firm owned
by his son Rob Riley,
1759
01:17:27,076 --> 01:17:29,946
thus appearing as a normal
business transaction.
1760
01:17:29,979 --> 01:17:32,215
A few weeks after his
demand had been rejected,
1761
01:17:32,248 --> 01:17:34,851
Riley set his sights
on McGregor once again
1762
01:17:34,884 --> 01:17:36,853
when he created a
new organization
1763
01:17:36,886 --> 01:17:38,855
called the Illegal
Gambling Task Force
1764
01:17:38,888 --> 01:17:40,957
with the intention of
shutting down Victoryland
1765
01:17:40,990 --> 01:17:42,992
and other smaller
gambling venues
1766
01:17:43,026 --> 01:17:46,162
that were considered competition
for the Indian casinos.
1767
01:17:46,195 --> 01:17:48,464
- Hello, I'm Governor Bob Riley.
1768
01:17:48,497 --> 01:17:51,868
I believe we're blessed
to live in Alabama.
1769
01:17:51,901 --> 01:17:53,236
We have a quality of life
1770
01:17:53,269 --> 01:17:56,740
that is unmatched anywhere
else in the world.
1771
01:17:56,773 --> 01:17:58,141
I never want to
see anything happen
1772
01:17:58,174 --> 01:18:01,010
that would degrade
our quality of life
1773
01:18:01,044 --> 01:18:03,312
and there's no doubt in my mind
1774
01:18:03,346 --> 01:18:06,916
that gambling does degrade
our quality of life.
1775
01:18:06,950 --> 01:18:10,086
It corrupts Alabama and hurts
the people who live here.
1776
01:18:10,119 --> 01:18:12,789
So I signed an executive
order in December
1777
01:18:12,822 --> 01:18:15,792
to create a task force
on illegal gambling.
1778
01:18:15,825 --> 01:18:18,027
This task force, with
the help of state
1779
01:18:18,061 --> 01:18:20,296
and local law
enforcement officers,
1780
01:18:20,329 --> 01:18:23,933
is designed to make sure
Alabama's laws against gambling
1781
01:18:23,967 --> 01:18:26,936
are uniformly enforced in
all of our communities.
1782
01:18:26,970 --> 01:18:30,774
- He announced he was forming
an Illegal Gambling Task Force
1783
01:18:30,807 --> 01:18:33,309
is what he called it, but it
was only a few weeks after that
1784
01:18:33,342 --> 01:18:37,480
that he sent state troopers
at four o'clock in the morning
1785
01:18:37,513 --> 01:18:39,849
to Victoryland without
a search warrant,
1786
01:18:39,883 --> 01:18:42,185
raiding us, closing
our business down,
1787
01:18:42,218 --> 01:18:44,153
something that you would expect
1788
01:18:44,187 --> 01:18:46,923
in Nazi Germany 60 years ago.
1789
01:18:46,956 --> 01:18:48,124
According to the news report,
1790
01:18:48,157 --> 01:18:52,128
over 100 state troopers
came to Victoryland
1791
01:18:52,161 --> 01:18:53,529
like a Gestapo crowd.
1792
01:18:53,562 --> 01:18:54,964
- [Narrator] Although
later that same morning,
1793
01:18:54,998 --> 01:18:56,966
a judge ruled that
the surprise raid
1794
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:58,768
was completely unconstitutional,
1795
01:18:58,802 --> 01:19:01,905
it only fueled Riley's efforts
to shut down Victoryland.
1796
01:19:01,938 --> 01:19:04,107
After Riley failed to
extort protection money
1797
01:19:04,140 --> 01:19:06,042
from McGregor in the
form of legal fees
1798
01:19:06,075 --> 01:19:07,811
paid to his son Rob Riley,
1799
01:19:07,844 --> 01:19:09,445
he joined forces
with newly-elected
1800
01:19:09,478 --> 01:19:12,048
Alabama Attorney
General Luther Strange
1801
01:19:12,081 --> 01:19:14,918
and together they rewrote
state gambling laws
1802
01:19:14,951 --> 01:19:16,786
that would force
Victoryland's closure.
1803
01:19:16,820 --> 01:19:18,287
Although traditional
one-arm bandits
1804
01:19:18,321 --> 01:19:19,989
are not allowed in Alabama,
1805
01:19:20,023 --> 01:19:23,059
state law does permit the use
of so-called bingo machines
1806
01:19:23,092 --> 01:19:25,128
even though the two are
virtually identical.
1807
01:19:25,161 --> 01:19:26,295
In an aggressive move,
1808
01:19:26,329 --> 01:19:29,833
Strange drafted so-called
memorandums of understanding
1809
01:19:29,866 --> 01:19:32,368
that legally redefined
Victoryland's machines
1810
01:19:32,401 --> 01:19:33,970
as illegal slot machines,
1811
01:19:34,003 --> 01:19:36,439
but in a second memo
Strange defined those
1812
01:19:36,472 --> 01:19:39,075
at the Poarch Creek
casino as bingo machines,
1813
01:19:39,108 --> 01:19:40,977
thus legally permitted for use.
1814
01:19:41,010 --> 01:19:43,312
Weeks later, as the
state's top prosecutor,
1815
01:19:43,346 --> 01:19:46,249
Strange then ordered all
Victoryland's machines
1816
01:19:46,282 --> 01:19:48,551
to be removed, forcing
them to close their doors
1817
01:19:48,584 --> 01:19:50,586
and lay off hundreds
of employees.
1818
01:19:50,619 --> 01:19:52,922
The motive behind their
actions became clear
1819
01:19:52,956 --> 01:19:55,024
when an article published
by the Montgomery Advertiser
1820
01:19:55,058 --> 01:19:58,261
revealed records showing that
the Poarch Creek Indian casino
1821
01:19:58,294 --> 01:20:03,099
donated $350,000 via a national
Republican organization
1822
01:20:03,132 --> 01:20:07,070
to Riley-affiliated pacts
with $100,000 of that money
1823
01:20:07,103 --> 01:20:09,338
funneled directly to
Luther Strange's campaign
1824
01:20:09,372 --> 01:20:11,540
for Attorney General
the previous year.
1825
01:20:11,574 --> 01:20:14,210
Publicly, the Riley
Administration opposed gambling,
1826
01:20:14,243 --> 01:20:17,613
but privately they were pulling
in millions in casino cash.
1827
01:20:17,646 --> 01:20:21,017
- The Riley machine on the
face was against gambling.
1828
01:20:21,050 --> 01:20:25,188
In reality, under the
table and secretly,
1829
01:20:25,221 --> 01:20:29,158
they took millions of dollars
from the Native Americans.
1830
01:20:29,192 --> 01:20:32,862
That money was used
to elect Bob Riley
1831
01:20:32,896 --> 01:20:34,130
and other Republicans.
1832
01:20:34,163 --> 01:20:38,201
Once they got in office,
they repaid the Indians
1833
01:20:38,234 --> 01:20:42,038
by shutting down Victoryland
and other gaming facilities
1834
01:20:42,071 --> 01:20:44,941
that competed with
the Native Americans.
1835
01:20:44,974 --> 01:20:47,410
It was that same
Bob Riley machine
1836
01:20:47,443 --> 01:20:50,880
that transferred
millions of dollars
1837
01:20:50,914 --> 01:20:53,616
into the Attorney General's
office to continue the fight.
1838
01:20:53,649 --> 01:20:55,284
- [Narrator] Despite
the chorus of decent,
1839
01:20:55,318 --> 01:20:57,653
Leura Canary continued
as federal prosecutor
1840
01:20:57,686 --> 01:20:59,222
for another three years
1841
01:20:59,255 --> 01:21:00,990
under Attorney
General Eric Holder
1842
01:21:01,024 --> 01:21:02,491
and the Obama Administration,
1843
01:21:02,525 --> 01:21:05,228
just enough time for one
more October surprise
1844
01:21:05,261 --> 01:21:08,064
when she indicted Milton
McGregor and 10 others
1845
01:21:08,097 --> 01:21:10,099
on federal racketeering charges.
1846
01:21:10,133 --> 01:21:12,268
- 11 defendants named
in the indictment
1847
01:21:12,301 --> 01:21:14,904
are charged with forming
a corrupt network
1848
01:21:14,938 --> 01:21:18,307
of legislators,
businessmen and lobbyists
1849
01:21:18,341 --> 01:21:21,911
whose aim was to manipulate
the Democratic process
1850
01:21:21,945 --> 01:21:23,146
for personal gain.
1851
01:21:23,179 --> 01:21:24,948
- Then we had a trial
and we were declared
1852
01:21:24,981 --> 01:21:27,616
not guilty on every
single charge.
1853
01:21:29,285 --> 01:21:30,286
That ended it.
1854
01:21:30,319 --> 01:21:32,088
- [Narrator] Another
example of Governor Riley
1855
01:21:32,121 --> 01:21:34,123
using the judiciary as a weapon
1856
01:21:34,157 --> 01:21:36,559
was when he approached then
Alabama attorney general
1857
01:21:36,592 --> 01:21:39,695
Troy King who disagreed with
him on the gambling issue.
1858
01:21:39,728 --> 01:21:42,298
First time I really
personally encountered
1859
01:21:42,331 --> 01:21:45,134
overzealous
prosecutors being used
1860
01:21:45,168 --> 01:21:47,503
as political pawns and weapons
1861
01:21:47,536 --> 01:21:49,638
was in a meeting I had with
the Governor of Alabama
1862
01:21:49,672 --> 01:21:52,275
where we were talking
about the gambling issue.
1863
01:21:52,308 --> 01:21:54,410
At the end of the
meeting, the governor said
1864
01:21:54,443 --> 01:21:57,146
"Well tell me about
your grand jury."
1865
01:21:57,180 --> 01:21:58,982
And I looked at him dumbfounded.
1866
01:21:59,015 --> 01:22:00,316
I said "What are
you talking about?
1867
01:22:00,349 --> 01:22:02,018
"What grand jury?"
1868
01:22:02,051 --> 01:22:03,419
And he said "Well you
know you have a grand jury
1869
01:22:03,452 --> 01:22:06,255
"investigating you, don't you?"
1870
01:22:06,289 --> 01:22:08,524
I didn't know it and I
told him I didn't know it
1871
01:22:08,557 --> 01:22:12,228
and his response was to
stand up, look at me and say
1872
01:22:12,261 --> 01:22:15,198
"Well, if we can get on
the same page on gambling,
1873
01:22:15,231 --> 01:22:17,266
"I think everything
will be okay"
1874
01:22:17,300 --> 01:22:19,135
and to turn around and
walk out of his office
1875
01:22:19,168 --> 01:22:20,403
and I'm here to tell you
1876
01:22:20,436 --> 01:22:24,140
when political
prosecutions occur,
1877
01:22:24,173 --> 01:22:26,442
when there can be a difference
of opinion over the law
1878
01:22:26,475 --> 01:22:30,213
and the reaction is to
try to put people in jail
1879
01:22:30,246 --> 01:22:32,115
for disagreeing with you,
1880
01:22:32,148 --> 01:22:35,184
that has no place
in the public arena.
1881
01:22:35,218 --> 01:22:38,021
(gentle music)
1882
01:22:38,754 --> 01:22:41,224
(clicking)
1883
01:22:45,561 --> 01:22:47,230
(gloomy music)
1884
01:22:47,263 --> 01:22:50,033
- Bob Riley gives a lot
of credit to Karl Rove
1885
01:22:50,066 --> 01:22:53,002
for being the architect,
sort of the mastermind
1886
01:22:53,036 --> 01:22:55,504
on how to do certain
things that they did.
1887
01:22:55,538 --> 01:22:57,740
- We know, everybody knows
1888
01:22:57,773 --> 01:23:00,376
that Karl Rove had a game plan.
1889
01:23:01,310 --> 01:23:03,146
He was the architect.
1890
01:23:03,179 --> 01:23:07,216
- We're at the DNC in Charlotte,
North Carolina in 2012
1891
01:23:07,250 --> 01:23:11,220
and I had a hunch that Karl
Rove was around the corner.
1892
01:23:12,621 --> 01:23:15,591
I actually did spot him walking
down with his security guard
1893
01:23:15,624 --> 01:23:18,227
in the hallway and
I went up to him
1894
01:23:18,261 --> 01:23:20,763
and he must have thought I
was a reporter or whatever,
1895
01:23:20,796 --> 01:23:23,299
so I stuck out my
hand and I said
1896
01:23:23,332 --> 01:23:26,535
"Mr. Rove, I'm Dana Siegelman,
Don Siegelman's daughter"
1897
01:23:26,569 --> 01:23:30,706
and said it just like
that and he went berserk.
1898
01:23:30,739 --> 01:23:32,175
As soon as I introduced myself,
1899
01:23:32,208 --> 01:23:34,243
which I thought I
did very politely,
1900
01:23:34,277 --> 01:23:36,312
you know, sir, Don
Siegelman's daughter,
1901
01:23:36,345 --> 01:23:38,181
I just wanted to
meet you and say,
1902
01:23:38,214 --> 01:23:39,082
he cut me off right away,
1903
01:23:39,115 --> 01:23:41,117
started shaking his
finger in my face
1904
01:23:41,150 --> 01:23:44,287
and said "Tell your dad not
to use my name to make money."
1905
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:47,223
And he kind of, he
nearly spit in my face,
1906
01:23:47,256 --> 01:23:48,557
but he got up in my face
1907
01:23:48,591 --> 01:23:50,359
and told me how
much he hated Dad
1908
01:23:50,393 --> 01:23:53,296
and he was gonna ring
Dad for all he was worth
1909
01:23:53,329 --> 01:23:55,698
and how dare I come up to him
1910
01:23:57,166 --> 01:24:00,403
and he got so
flustered and red-faced
1911
01:24:00,436 --> 01:24:04,240
and just basically
ran after he realized
1912
01:24:04,273 --> 01:24:06,842
that he had just like
basically gotten in my face
1913
01:24:06,875 --> 01:24:09,745
and that there were camera
crews coming towards us,
1914
01:24:09,778 --> 01:24:11,614
he just started to run.
1915
01:24:11,647 --> 01:24:13,182
- [Narrator] When the
House Judiciary Committee
1916
01:24:13,216 --> 01:24:15,318
ordered Rove to
testify about his role
1917
01:24:15,351 --> 01:24:17,420
in the Siegelman case
and the attorney firings,
1918
01:24:17,453 --> 01:24:19,455
he simply refused to
honor the subpoena,
1919
01:24:19,488 --> 01:24:21,190
citing executive privilege.
1920
01:24:21,224 --> 01:24:23,259
In the months following his
no-show before the committee,
1921
01:24:23,292 --> 01:24:25,661
his lawyers eventually
cut a sweetheart deal
1922
01:24:25,694 --> 01:24:27,263
with the House
Judiciary Committee.
1923
01:24:27,296 --> 01:24:29,165
Instead of testifying
under oath,
1924
01:24:29,198 --> 01:24:31,400
he was only required
to answer questions
1925
01:24:31,434 --> 01:24:33,469
behind closed doors
without being sworn in
1926
01:24:33,502 --> 01:24:35,371
and the session would
not be recorded.
1927
01:24:35,404 --> 01:24:37,373
This eliminated
any legal recourse
1928
01:24:37,406 --> 01:24:39,375
for lawmakers to
hold Rove accountable
1929
01:24:39,408 --> 01:24:40,876
should he make false statements
1930
01:24:40,909 --> 01:24:43,212
and essentially made
his testimony worthless.
1931
01:24:43,246 --> 01:24:44,280
What no one knew at the time
1932
01:24:44,313 --> 01:24:45,681
was that one of his attorneys
1933
01:24:45,714 --> 01:24:47,583
that quietly made
those arrangements
1934
01:24:47,616 --> 01:24:50,486
was Eric Holder while he was
working as a private attorney
1935
01:24:50,519 --> 01:24:52,421
and just months
before he was sworn in
1936
01:24:52,455 --> 01:24:55,191
as Attorney General in
the Obama Administration.
1937
01:24:55,224 --> 01:24:59,428
- The RNC and Karl Rove were
represented by guess who?
1938
01:24:59,462 --> 01:25:01,230
At Covington and Burling,
1939
01:25:01,264 --> 01:25:04,133
right before he went
in as Attorney General,
1940
01:25:04,167 --> 01:25:06,335
none other than Eric Holder.
1941
01:25:06,369 --> 01:25:09,738
- The law firm that represented
Karl Rove at that time
1942
01:25:09,772 --> 01:25:12,341
and had for years and
probably does today
1943
01:25:12,375 --> 01:25:15,211
is the law firm that
Eric Holder came from,
1944
01:25:15,244 --> 01:25:16,779
Covington and Burling.
1945
01:25:16,812 --> 01:25:18,447
- [Narrator] Little known
to most of the public,
1946
01:25:18,481 --> 01:25:21,484
just before Holder became head
of the Justice Department,
1947
01:25:21,517 --> 01:25:23,419
he was paid a
multi-million dollar salary
1948
01:25:23,452 --> 01:25:25,321
as a partner at
Covington and Burling,
1949
01:25:25,354 --> 01:25:28,724
a high-powered DC law firm
with deep Republican ties.
1950
01:25:28,757 --> 01:25:30,526
Covington's current
and former client list
1951
01:25:30,559 --> 01:25:32,895
reads like a who's who
of some of America's
1952
01:25:32,928 --> 01:25:34,463
most tarnished organizations,
1953
01:25:34,497 --> 01:25:36,865
including Halliburton,
Enron executives,
1954
01:25:36,899 --> 01:25:39,302
Philip Morris and many
of the Wall Street firms
1955
01:25:39,335 --> 01:25:41,437
at the heart of the
so-called great recession,
1956
01:25:41,470 --> 01:25:43,772
none of whom were held
responsible by the DOJ
1957
01:25:43,806 --> 01:25:46,309
for their role in the
financial disaster.
1958
01:25:46,342 --> 01:25:49,445
Covington's website even
boasts of representing the RNC
1959
01:25:49,478 --> 01:25:52,415
after thousands of emails
were mysteriously erased
1960
01:25:52,448 --> 01:25:54,283
and presumed unrecoverable,
1961
01:25:54,317 --> 01:25:56,452
emails that many believe
would have proven
1962
01:25:56,485 --> 01:25:58,454
that another Covington
client, Karl Rove,
1963
01:25:58,487 --> 01:26:01,290
was the ringleader behind
both the attorney firings
1964
01:26:01,324 --> 01:26:02,358
and the Siegelman case.
1965
01:26:02,391 --> 01:26:05,228
As Attorney General,
Holder tapped Lanny Breuer,
1966
01:26:05,261 --> 01:26:06,929
a former colleague
of his at Covington,
1967
01:26:06,962 --> 01:26:09,498
to head the Justice
Department's Criminal Division.
1968
01:26:09,532 --> 01:26:10,666
- Congratulations.
- Thank you.
1969
01:26:10,699 --> 01:26:12,235
(applause)
1970
01:26:12,268 --> 01:26:13,402
- [Narrator] Breuer's
group oversaw
1971
01:26:13,436 --> 01:26:15,404
the Milton McGregor prosecution.
1972
01:26:15,438 --> 01:26:18,707
- This morning, federal
agents began arresting
1973
01:26:18,741 --> 01:26:20,409
11 individuals.
1974
01:26:20,443 --> 01:26:21,977
- [Man] Federal prosecutors
say they've uncovered evidence
1975
01:26:22,010 --> 01:26:25,448
of a widespread corruption
scandal in Alabama.
1976
01:26:25,481 --> 01:26:27,683
- [Narrator] A case so weak
that it ultimately resulted
1977
01:26:27,716 --> 01:26:31,354
in across-the-board acquittals
for all 11 defendants.
1978
01:26:31,387 --> 01:26:33,322
This raises a very
serious question,
1979
01:26:33,356 --> 01:26:34,623
why would the
Justice Department,
1980
01:26:34,657 --> 01:26:36,425
under another political party,
1981
01:26:36,459 --> 01:26:39,228
allow a case so obviously
tainted by corruption
1982
01:26:39,262 --> 01:26:41,397
to go forward if there
were not some kind
1983
01:26:41,430 --> 01:26:44,233
of insider influence involved?
1984
01:26:44,267 --> 01:26:46,402
- Really the one that I think
1985
01:26:46,435 --> 01:26:49,004
needs to be investigated
more than anybody
1986
01:26:49,037 --> 01:26:53,509
in this whole Siegelman, whole
prosecute the Democrats thing
1987
01:26:53,542 --> 01:26:54,577
is Eric Holder.
1988
01:26:54,610 --> 01:26:57,513
Nobody's laid a finger on him.
1989
01:26:57,546 --> 01:26:59,582
- [Narrator] Could Holder's
ties with Covington clients
1990
01:26:59,615 --> 01:27:02,651
Karl Rove and the RNC be the
reason he personally fired
1991
01:27:02,685 --> 01:27:06,622
DOJ paralegal Tamarah Grimes
for providing strong evidence
1992
01:27:06,655 --> 01:27:09,658
of prosecutorial misconduct
in the Siegelman case?
1993
01:27:09,692 --> 01:27:12,495
Obviously Rove and the RNC
would have wanted to minimize
1994
01:27:12,528 --> 01:27:14,930
any fallout from
potential malfeasance,
1995
01:27:14,963 --> 01:27:16,432
however, as Attorney General
1996
01:27:16,465 --> 01:27:18,701
it was Eric Holder's
responsibility
1997
01:27:18,734 --> 01:27:21,937
to notify all parties involved
of his conflicts of interest
1998
01:27:21,970 --> 01:27:23,739
stemming from his
work at Covington
1999
01:27:23,772 --> 01:27:26,309
and to recuse himself
from any cases
2000
01:27:26,342 --> 01:27:27,976
associated with those clients.
2001
01:27:28,010 --> 01:27:30,613
Instead, he chose
to hide that fact
2002
01:27:30,646 --> 01:27:33,849
and even took it one step
further by firing Grimes
2003
01:27:33,882 --> 01:27:36,285
in an attempt to silence
the damning evidence
2004
01:27:36,319 --> 01:27:38,721
she provided against
Rove and Leura Canary
2005
01:27:38,754 --> 01:27:40,823
and many others in the
Justice Department.
2006
01:27:40,856 --> 01:27:43,492
Legal critics also
cite Holder's ties
2007
01:27:43,526 --> 01:27:44,927
to Karl Rove and the RNC
2008
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,563
as the reason Canary,
a Bush appointee,
2009
01:27:47,596 --> 01:27:49,532
remain prosecutor
for three more years
2010
01:27:49,565 --> 01:27:51,634
under the Obama Administration
2011
01:27:51,667 --> 01:27:53,336
despite her
conflicts of interest
2012
01:27:53,369 --> 01:27:55,604
and repeated allegations
of misconduct.
2013
01:27:55,638 --> 01:27:59,041
Those same critics also ask
why the Justice Department,
2014
01:27:59,074 --> 01:28:01,544
to this day, still
refuses to release
2015
01:28:01,577 --> 01:28:03,346
thousands of documents,
2016
01:28:03,379 --> 01:28:04,813
including the results
of an internal
2017
01:28:04,847 --> 01:28:07,383
DOJ investigation of the case,
2018
01:28:07,416 --> 01:28:09,385
a report the defense
attorneys say
2019
01:28:09,418 --> 01:28:11,487
would reveal the
rampant misconduct
2020
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:13,522
by numerous DOJ officials.
2021
01:28:13,556 --> 01:28:15,524
(gloomy music)
2022
01:28:15,558 --> 01:28:20,529
- I wrote to President Obama
and to the Attorney General,
2023
01:28:20,563 --> 01:28:23,566
pointed out the
travesty of justice.
2024
01:28:24,700 --> 01:28:26,502
I have not heard a
word from them on it,
2025
01:28:26,535 --> 01:28:29,338
not that they owed
me a response,
2026
01:28:29,372 --> 01:28:33,075
but I thought that the
gravity of the injustice
2027
01:28:34,109 --> 01:28:35,310
of this case
2028
01:28:36,545 --> 01:28:38,481
merited some correction
2029
01:28:42,485 --> 01:28:44,687
by the White House
and we haven't seen it
2030
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:47,723
and I'm bitterly
disappointed by it.
2031
01:28:49,392 --> 01:28:50,526
- [Narrator] During the House
investigation into the matter,
2032
01:28:50,559 --> 01:28:54,096
an email surfaced from an
unidentified federal prosecutor
2033
01:28:54,129 --> 01:28:57,466
sent to Rob Riley who
was working on his
father's campaign.
2034
01:28:57,500 --> 01:29:00,936
In the email, the
sender complained that
he had been, quote,
2035
01:29:00,969 --> 01:29:03,372
"thwarted" for beginning
an investigation
2036
01:29:03,406 --> 01:29:04,973
into the Siegelman
Administration.
2037
01:29:05,007 --> 01:29:07,543
That person also stated
that it was, quote,
2038
01:29:07,576 --> 01:29:09,712
"frustrating for me
and a small group
2039
01:29:09,745 --> 01:29:11,980
"of like-minded
Conservative prosecutors
2040
01:29:12,014 --> 01:29:14,683
to, quote, "fight the tide
in order to do the job
2041
01:29:14,717 --> 01:29:16,118
"we were sworn to do."
2042
01:29:16,151 --> 01:29:18,587
The question is why would
a federal prosecutor
2043
01:29:18,621 --> 01:29:20,723
who began the
Siegelman investigation
2044
01:29:20,756 --> 01:29:22,558
make such a plea to Rob Riley
2045
01:29:22,591 --> 01:29:25,928
unless they and the Rileys
were united in their efforts
2046
01:29:25,961 --> 01:29:27,630
and the biggest question arises
2047
01:29:27,663 --> 01:29:30,599
why did this prosecutor
plainly identify themselves
2048
01:29:30,633 --> 01:29:33,736
as a Conservative prosecutor
to another Conservative
2049
01:29:33,769 --> 01:29:36,472
if politics were not involved?
2050
01:29:40,042 --> 01:29:42,645
(gentle music)
2051
01:29:44,580 --> 01:29:46,615
(clicking)
2052
01:29:53,021 --> 01:29:55,791
(solemn music)
2053
01:30:12,174 --> 01:30:15,778
- There was so many
strains of wrongdoing
2054
01:30:16,745 --> 01:30:19,147
that I and a group
of attorneys general
2055
01:30:19,181 --> 01:30:21,016
felt we should get involved,
2056
01:30:21,049 --> 01:30:22,785
we should do
something about this.
2057
01:30:22,818 --> 01:30:25,721
So a committee, a
bipartisan committee,
2058
01:30:25,754 --> 01:30:27,723
two Democrats, two Republican
2059
01:30:27,756 --> 01:30:28,657
together with Jeff
Jeff Modisett,
2060
01:30:28,691 --> 01:30:30,859
the former attorney
general of Indiana,
2061
01:30:30,893 --> 01:30:35,698
and Bob Stephan of Kansas
and Grant Woods of Arizona,
2062
01:30:35,731 --> 01:30:38,867
we acted as a steering
committee to try to reach out
2063
01:30:38,901 --> 01:30:40,669
to former attorneys general
2064
01:30:40,703 --> 01:30:42,705
to see if they
would get involved
2065
01:30:42,738 --> 01:30:46,074
and indeed over the course
of the investigation
2066
01:30:46,108 --> 01:30:49,144
and the prosecution
and the litigation,
2067
01:30:49,177 --> 01:30:51,880
former attorneys general
did a number of things.
2068
01:30:51,914 --> 01:30:54,983
There were briefs filed in the
United States Supreme Court,
2069
01:30:55,017 --> 01:30:56,952
amicus curiae briefs.
2070
01:30:56,985 --> 01:30:59,788
One of those briefs got 91
2071
01:30:59,822 --> 01:31:02,625
former attorneys
general to sign on
2072
01:31:02,658 --> 01:31:06,829
and a later brief got 113
former attorneys general.
2073
01:31:08,263 --> 01:31:10,699
Never before in the
history of the country
2074
01:31:10,733 --> 01:31:13,201
have so many attorneys
general chimed in
2075
01:31:13,235 --> 01:31:16,238
on an issue before the
United States Supreme Court
2076
01:31:16,271 --> 01:31:18,106
and these were Democrats
and Republicans,
2077
01:31:18,140 --> 01:31:20,643
Liberals and
Conservatives, Moderates.
2078
01:31:20,676 --> 01:31:23,779
They represented virtually
every state in the Union,
2079
01:31:23,812 --> 01:31:27,983
all united saying somebody's
gotta look at this case.
2080
01:31:29,618 --> 01:31:31,887
- That's unprecedented in
the history of the country.
2081
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:34,657
Never happened before,
won't happen again
2082
01:31:34,690 --> 01:31:38,627
and these are people who
have spent their lives
2083
01:31:39,261 --> 01:31:41,196
enforcing the law,
2084
01:31:41,229 --> 01:31:44,099
being prosecutors
for the most part,
2085
01:31:44,132 --> 01:31:47,002
being their state's
top prosecutor
2086
01:31:47,035 --> 01:31:49,872
and yet all of them
came together to say
2087
01:31:49,905 --> 01:31:52,641
what happened to Don
Siegelman wasn't right
2088
01:31:52,675 --> 01:31:54,943
and you guys need to
take a look at it.
2089
01:31:54,977 --> 01:31:57,880
So that should say
a lot to people.
2090
01:32:00,649 --> 01:32:02,084
- [Narrator] Despite
hundreds of letters
2091
01:32:02,117 --> 01:32:04,553
written by many of
America's top legal minds
2092
01:32:04,587 --> 01:32:07,856
to members of Congress, the
Supreme Court, the White House,
2093
01:32:07,890 --> 01:32:08,957
and the Department of Justice,
2094
01:32:08,991 --> 01:32:10,793
pleas have fallen on deaf ears
2095
01:32:10,826 --> 01:32:14,329
and no meaningful
action has been taken.
2096
01:32:14,362 --> 01:32:17,766
- You have well over 100
former attorneys general
2097
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:20,603
who have said that
this isn't a crime,
2098
01:32:20,636 --> 01:32:22,771
13 New York Timed editorials,
this isn't a crime,
2099
01:32:22,805 --> 01:32:24,907
Conservative commentator George
Will, this isn't a crime,
2100
01:32:24,940 --> 01:32:27,843
Neil Cavuto on Fox News,
this isn't a crime.
2101
01:32:27,876 --> 01:32:31,914
I mean, the echos are amazing
that this isn't a crime
2102
01:32:31,947 --> 01:32:32,948
and people are flabbergasted
2103
01:32:32,981 --> 01:32:34,817
about how these gentlemen
ended up in prison.
2104
01:32:34,850 --> 01:32:36,051
- [Narrator] After
serving over five years
2105
01:32:36,084 --> 01:32:37,219
in federal prison,
2106
01:32:37,252 --> 01:32:39,187
former Alabama
governor Don Siegelman
2107
01:32:39,221 --> 01:32:41,824
was released on
February 8th, 2017
2108
01:32:41,857 --> 01:32:43,759
to home confinement
for several months.
2109
01:32:43,792 --> 01:32:46,361
He will remain on
probation until 2021.
2110
01:32:46,394 --> 01:32:47,630
- Here's what I do know.
2111
01:32:47,663 --> 01:32:50,766
I do know that I was innocent
and the governor was innocent
2112
01:32:50,799 --> 01:32:53,035
and we both went
to federal prison.
2113
01:32:53,068 --> 01:32:53,969
Why?
2114
01:32:54,002 --> 01:32:56,071
At the end of the day, why?
2115
01:32:56,104 --> 01:32:57,973
- Richard Scrushy
spent six years,
2116
01:32:58,006 --> 01:33:00,709
almost six years in prison
away from his family
2117
01:33:00,743 --> 01:33:02,310
and all he had to
do was tell one lie
2118
01:33:02,344 --> 01:33:04,813
and he wouldn't have
done one day in prison.
2119
01:33:04,847 --> 01:33:06,348
- You know, I'm taking
away from my family
2120
01:33:06,381 --> 01:33:08,150
and my little ones and my wife
2121
01:33:08,183 --> 01:33:11,787
and just beat down and
shamed and humiliated
2122
01:33:11,820 --> 01:33:14,757
and tortured for five
years in a federal prison.
2123
01:33:14,790 --> 01:33:15,691
Come on.
2124
01:33:15,724 --> 01:33:17,092
Let me put you in some chains
2125
01:33:17,125 --> 01:33:19,728
and lock you up at about
2:30 in the morning
2126
01:33:19,762 --> 01:33:22,998
and let you and unhook you
late that night, next night
2127
01:33:23,031 --> 01:33:25,901
and give you a bottle
of water and that was it
2128
01:33:25,934 --> 01:33:27,369
and you call it what you want.
2129
01:33:27,402 --> 01:33:29,938
When you can't scratch
your head, you can't turn,
2130
01:33:29,972 --> 01:33:33,108
you're sitting on a cold floor,
you're freezing to death,
2131
01:33:33,141 --> 01:33:35,110
you're soaking wet because
they made you stand out
2132
01:33:35,143 --> 01:33:37,012
in the rain in the
middle of the winter,
2133
01:33:37,045 --> 01:33:38,814
marching you around
with shotguns on you
2134
01:33:38,847 --> 01:33:41,349
and you tell me that's not
torture, it's not harassment.
2135
01:33:41,383 --> 01:33:42,985
I can't event talk
about some of the things
2136
01:33:43,018 --> 01:33:44,687
they put us through
2137
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:46,822
and they put the governor
through that kind of stuff.
2138
01:33:46,855 --> 01:33:49,925
I had one guard tell me one
time "Listen, I tell you what."
2139
01:33:49,958 --> 01:33:51,026
I said "Sir, I'm very sick.
2140
01:33:51,059 --> 01:33:52,995
"I gotta get some medicine,
you gotta help me out.
2141
01:33:53,028 --> 01:33:55,998
"I mean, I'm coughing, very
sick and respiratory problem"
2142
01:33:56,031 --> 01:33:56,899
and he said "I tell you what,
2143
01:33:56,932 --> 01:33:57,465
"when you can't get
up off that floor
2144
01:33:57,499 --> 01:33:59,768
"I'll call us a doctor.
2145
01:33:59,802 --> 01:34:02,304
"When you can't get
up off that floor."
2146
01:34:02,337 --> 01:34:04,773
I mean all you can
do is just pray.
2147
01:34:04,807 --> 01:34:06,408
Yeah, I haven't
even opened the door
2148
01:34:06,441 --> 01:34:07,843
to what we went through.
2149
01:34:07,876 --> 01:34:10,979
If I told you, you know,
it's some tough stuff
2150
01:34:11,013 --> 01:34:12,948
and I have to deal with
that the rest of my life.
2151
01:34:12,981 --> 01:34:14,850
- [Narrator] Siegelman
spent two lengthy periods
2152
01:34:14,883 --> 01:34:16,284
in solitary confinement.
2153
01:34:16,318 --> 01:34:17,986
One lasted 45 days
2154
01:34:18,020 --> 01:34:20,322
for speaking to a radio
host on the phone.
2155
01:34:20,355 --> 01:34:22,791
Corrections department
officials have forbidden him
2156
01:34:22,825 --> 01:34:25,027
from speaking with
anyone from the media.
2157
01:34:25,060 --> 01:34:27,462
This 20-year pursuit to get
Siegelman out of the way
2158
01:34:27,495 --> 01:34:29,064
has been staggering in scope
2159
01:34:29,097 --> 01:34:31,199
and a boon for
lawyers and lobbyists.
2160
01:34:31,233 --> 01:34:34,136
The government spent an
estimated $50 million plus
2161
01:34:34,169 --> 01:34:36,905
on multiple investigations
and prosecutions.
2162
01:34:36,939 --> 01:34:39,742
To date, Don Siegelman
has spent over $3 million
2163
01:34:39,775 --> 01:34:40,943
in his defense,
2164
01:34:40,976 --> 01:34:42,711
not to mention the
attorney fees incurred
2165
01:34:42,745 --> 01:34:44,813
by his codefendants
and hundreds of others
2166
01:34:44,847 --> 01:34:46,414
questioned along he way.
2167
01:34:46,448 --> 01:34:49,985
The Choctaws paid Abramoff
and Scanlon over $20 million
2168
01:34:50,018 --> 01:34:51,920
to defeat the
education lottery fund
2169
01:34:51,954 --> 01:34:53,789
and then to oust Siegelman
2170
01:34:53,822 --> 01:34:56,224
before he could enter
national politics.
2171
01:34:56,258 --> 01:34:59,027
An election was stolen
after 6,000 votes
2172
01:34:59,061 --> 01:35:01,897
mysteriously disappeared
in the middle of the night.
2173
01:35:01,930 --> 01:35:05,000
Those ballots, obtained
by Rove client Bill Pryor
2174
01:35:05,033 --> 01:35:07,069
have never been seen or counted.
2175
01:35:07,102 --> 01:35:10,438
Pryor also initiated a
four-year baseless investigation
2176
01:35:10,472 --> 01:35:12,440
of Siegelman that found nothing.
2177
01:35:12,474 --> 01:35:14,042
Charges brought by Pryor
2178
01:35:14,076 --> 01:35:16,078
and another Rove
protege Alice Martin
2179
01:35:16,111 --> 01:35:19,281
were described by the judge as
the most baseless prosecution
2180
01:35:19,314 --> 01:35:23,051
he had seen in his almost 30
years on the federal bench.
2181
01:35:23,085 --> 01:35:24,419
Federal prosecutor Leura Canary,
2182
01:35:24,452 --> 01:35:27,189
wife of the campaign manager
of Siegelman's opponent
2183
01:35:27,222 --> 01:35:28,924
and Rove partner,
2184
01:35:28,957 --> 01:35:31,093
then kicked another federal
investigation into high gear
2185
01:35:31,126 --> 01:35:33,228
and then lied about her recusal.
2186
01:35:33,261 --> 01:35:34,997
Canary's indictment of Siegelman
2187
01:35:35,030 --> 01:35:36,498
marked the first
time in the history
2188
01:35:36,531 --> 01:35:38,000
of American jurisprudence
2189
01:35:38,033 --> 01:35:41,069
that a properly recorded
non-profit contribution
2190
01:35:41,103 --> 01:35:43,271
was considered a
form of bribery.
2191
01:35:43,305 --> 01:35:45,107
Canary and other Rove associates
2192
01:35:45,140 --> 01:35:47,242
strategically planned
the trial to occur
2193
01:35:47,275 --> 01:35:49,444
so that prosecutors
could publicly accuse
2194
01:35:49,477 --> 01:35:52,981
Siegelman of bribery and leak
false allegations to the press
2195
01:35:53,015 --> 01:35:54,249
just before an election.
2196
01:35:54,282 --> 01:35:56,084
Stephen Faega and Louis Franklin
2197
01:35:56,118 --> 01:35:59,087
committed multiple forms
of prosecutorial misconduct
2198
01:35:59,121 --> 01:36:01,990
when they scripted Nick
Bailey's prepared testimony
2199
01:36:02,024 --> 01:36:04,927
during an unheard of 100
plus meetings with him.
2200
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:08,130
They illegally withheld Bailey's
notes from those meetings
2201
01:36:08,163 --> 01:36:10,899
when they should have
been admitted as evidence.
2202
01:36:10,933 --> 01:36:13,501
Franklin and Faega also
threatened Bailey for years
2203
01:36:13,535 --> 01:36:15,570
to falsely testify
against Siegelman
2204
01:36:15,603 --> 01:36:17,505
or face a lengthy
prison sentence,
2205
01:36:17,539 --> 01:36:20,508
untruthful testimony that
the DOJ officials knew
2206
01:36:20,542 --> 01:36:22,044
would lead to a conviction.
2207
01:36:22,077 --> 01:36:24,279
Faega and Franklin
also threatened
2208
01:36:24,312 --> 01:36:26,148
multiple witnesses
to lie on the stand
2209
01:36:26,181 --> 01:36:27,883
or face prosecution,
2210
01:36:27,916 --> 01:36:30,052
some of which were later
tried and convicted
2211
01:36:30,085 --> 01:36:32,420
under similarly
specious circumstances.
2212
01:36:32,454 --> 01:36:34,923
Rove associates arranged
for a hanging judge
2213
01:36:34,957 --> 01:36:37,059
and Siegelman political
foe Mark Fuller
2214
01:36:37,092 --> 01:36:37,993
to be assigned to the case,
2215
01:36:38,026 --> 01:36:40,262
a judge so crooked
that he was eventually
2216
01:36:40,295 --> 01:36:43,565
forced off the bench for
perjury and domestic violence.
2217
01:36:43,598 --> 01:36:45,600
When the prosecution
rested their case,
2218
01:36:45,633 --> 01:36:48,904
Fuller's company was quietly
awarded a government contract
2219
01:36:48,937 --> 01:36:51,073
for a whopping $178 million,
2220
01:36:52,474 --> 01:36:54,176
a contract that could
have easily been arranged
2221
01:36:54,209 --> 01:36:56,611
by Rove or other
White House officials.
2222
01:36:56,644 --> 01:36:59,581
After the trial, emails
emerged showing that jurors
2223
01:36:59,614 --> 01:37:02,084
inappropriately tried
to convince other jurors
2224
01:37:02,117 --> 01:37:04,519
to vote guilty before all the
evidence had been presented,
2225
01:37:04,552 --> 01:37:07,122
however, Fuller
demanded that both sides
2226
01:37:07,155 --> 01:37:09,958
do nothing to determine
their authenticity.
2227
01:37:09,992 --> 01:37:11,960
Later, a letter from
the Justice Department
2228
01:37:11,994 --> 01:37:14,930
admitted that prosecutors
defied the judge's order
2229
01:37:14,963 --> 01:37:16,431
to not look into the emails.
2230
01:37:16,464 --> 01:37:19,067
Then prosecutors actually
met with Judge Fuller,
2231
01:37:19,101 --> 01:37:20,969
but without the defense present.
2232
01:37:21,003 --> 01:37:23,105
That ex-parte communication
could have easily
2233
01:37:23,138 --> 01:37:24,106
brought about a mistrial.
2234
01:37:24,139 --> 01:37:26,308
However, the letter was
strategically submitted
2235
01:37:26,341 --> 01:37:28,110
to the defense when Siegelman
2236
01:37:28,143 --> 01:37:30,112
could no longer use
it in an appeal.
2237
01:37:30,145 --> 01:37:32,214
In 2008, Tamarah Grimes,
2238
01:37:32,247 --> 01:37:34,182
a paralegal working
with the prosecution,
2239
01:37:34,216 --> 01:37:35,550
blew the whistle on what went on
2240
01:37:35,583 --> 01:37:37,152
behind the prosecution's doors
2241
01:37:37,185 --> 01:37:39,521
and confirmed what
everyone knew all along,
2242
01:37:39,554 --> 01:37:42,090
Canary, in fact,
continued her involvement
2243
01:37:42,124 --> 01:37:43,992
despite her so-called recusal,
2244
01:37:44,026 --> 01:37:46,428
Franklin and Faega strongly
pressured Nick Bailey
2245
01:37:46,461 --> 01:37:48,030
to falsify his testimony,
2246
01:37:48,063 --> 01:37:50,298
and the prosecution
inappropriately communicated
2247
01:37:50,332 --> 01:37:53,168
directly with a juror
during and after the trial.
2248
01:37:53,201 --> 01:37:56,204
All represent strong ground
to overturn the verdict.
2249
01:37:56,238 --> 01:37:58,473
Then former Rover
associate Jill Simpson
2250
01:37:58,506 --> 01:38:01,376
testified before Congress
that before Siegelman's trial,
2251
01:38:01,409 --> 01:38:03,411
Rove business
partner Bill Canary
2252
01:38:03,445 --> 01:38:05,247
told her that,
quote, "his girls"
2253
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:06,514
would take care of Siegelman
2254
01:38:06,548 --> 01:38:08,150
and that's exactly
what Alice Martin
2255
01:38:08,183 --> 01:38:09,617
and his wife Leura Canary did
2256
01:38:09,651 --> 01:38:12,354
when they both indicted
Siegelman in separate cases.
2257
01:38:12,387 --> 01:38:16,124
Simpson also said
that Siegelman's
opponent's son Rob Riley
2258
01:38:16,158 --> 01:38:18,393
would have Mark Fuller
assigned to the case,
2259
01:38:18,426 --> 01:38:23,265
and that he was, quote,
"willing to hang Siegelman."
2260
01:38:23,298 --> 01:38:25,233
As Siegelman sat
in federal prison,
2261
01:38:25,267 --> 01:38:28,603
Rove and the RNC paid millions
to Eric Holder's law firm,
2262
01:38:28,636 --> 01:38:31,039
Covington and Burling,
to convince lawmakers
2263
01:38:31,073 --> 01:38:33,575
and Justice Department
officials to turn a blind eye
2264
01:38:33,608 --> 01:38:36,244
to their overwhelming levels
of corruption they committed
2265
01:38:36,278 --> 01:38:38,680
regarding the missing
emails, the attorney firings,
2266
01:38:38,713 --> 01:38:40,248
and the Siegelman case.
2267
01:38:40,282 --> 01:38:42,384
After Holder became head
of the Justice Department,
2268
01:38:42,417 --> 01:38:45,553
he continued serving his clients
instead of serving justice
2269
01:38:45,587 --> 01:38:47,589
by shutting down
multiple investigations
2270
01:38:47,622 --> 01:38:49,958
into Rove's scandals
so that no charges
2271
01:38:49,992 --> 01:38:53,161
were ever brought against Rove
or other Covington clients.
2272
01:38:53,195 --> 01:38:54,396
Despite the 20
years of countless
2273
01:38:54,429 --> 01:38:57,299
Justice Department man hours,
corrupt political dealings,
2274
01:38:57,332 --> 01:38:59,434
stolen votes,
trumped up charges,
2275
01:38:59,467 --> 01:39:02,204
millions in legal
expenses, a rigged court,
2276
01:39:02,237 --> 01:39:05,240
massive prosecutorial
misconduct, judicial abuse,
2277
01:39:05,273 --> 01:39:09,277
recusal lies, false testimony,
secret government contracts,
2278
01:39:09,311 --> 01:39:13,115
shady deals, juror misconduct,
and the subversion of justice
2279
01:39:13,148 --> 01:39:15,083
committed by Rove
and the many others
2280
01:39:15,117 --> 01:39:17,019
to carry out this
malicious prosecution
2281
01:39:17,052 --> 01:39:18,286
and wrongful conviction,
2282
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:20,322
Siegelman was never
recused or convicted
2283
01:39:20,355 --> 01:39:23,225
of putting one
penny in his pocket.
2284
01:39:23,258 --> 01:39:25,327
This overwhelming injustice
has remained covered up
2285
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:27,996
for over a decade now and
the people that perpetrated
2286
01:39:28,030 --> 01:39:30,232
this fraud on the court
have never so much
2287
01:39:30,265 --> 01:39:32,534
as been questioned, much
less held accountable.
2288
01:39:32,567 --> 01:39:34,636
In fact, most of
them have moved on
2289
01:39:34,669 --> 01:39:38,173
or maintained very
powerful positions.
2290
01:39:38,206 --> 01:39:40,242
As head of the Business
Council of Alabama,
2291
01:39:40,275 --> 01:39:43,178
Bill Canary can forcibly
influence legislation
2292
01:39:43,211 --> 01:39:46,114
because his lobbying firm
provides so many candidates
2293
01:39:46,148 --> 01:39:49,351
with the campaign funds they
need to remain in office.
2294
01:39:49,384 --> 01:39:51,286
Leura Canary remained
federal prosecutor
2295
01:39:51,319 --> 01:39:53,655
for three more years
under Eric Holder
2296
01:39:53,688 --> 01:39:55,290
and the Obama Administration
2297
01:39:55,323 --> 01:39:58,193
where she continued to
indict many Republican foes.
2298
01:39:58,226 --> 01:39:59,394
She's now the General Counsel
2299
01:39:59,427 --> 01:40:01,596
for the Retirement
Systems of Alabama.
2300
01:40:01,629 --> 01:40:05,200
- When your
government goes awry,
2301
01:40:05,233 --> 01:40:08,570
goes crazy and does not
follow the Constitution,
2302
01:40:08,603 --> 01:40:11,306
then justice is not served.
2303
01:40:11,339 --> 01:40:12,640
- [Narrator] Several
months after certifying
2304
01:40:12,674 --> 01:40:15,143
that 2002 election
two days early,
2305
01:40:15,177 --> 01:40:18,246
Rove client and former Alabama
attorney general Bill Pryor
2306
01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:21,183
was appointed to the 11th
Circuit Court of Appeals
2307
01:40:21,216 --> 01:40:23,318
where Siegelman lost
two separate cases.
2308
01:40:23,351 --> 01:40:25,387
Although Pryor was not
assigned to either case,
2309
01:40:25,420 --> 01:40:29,224
both three-judge panels
were a Republican majority.
2310
01:40:29,257 --> 01:40:31,326
- Bill Pryor, in my
experience with him,
2311
01:40:31,359 --> 01:40:33,695
was a complete
partisan hack, frankly,
2312
01:40:33,728 --> 01:40:34,762
and that was very unusual.
2313
01:40:34,796 --> 01:40:35,963
He stood out.
2314
01:40:35,997 --> 01:40:38,833
I'm saying as a Republican I
would feel very comfortable
2315
01:40:38,866 --> 01:40:41,669
voting for Richard
Pryor over Bill Pryor.
2316
01:40:41,703 --> 01:40:43,405
- [Narrator] Former
governor Bob Riley
2317
01:40:43,438 --> 01:40:45,340
runs Riley and Associates,
2318
01:40:45,373 --> 01:40:47,342
another large
Alabama lobbying firm
2319
01:40:47,375 --> 01:40:50,245
that funds many Republican
political campaigns,
2320
01:40:50,278 --> 01:40:53,348
including all members of
the Alabama Supreme Court.
2321
01:40:53,381 --> 01:40:57,085
As attorneys, Rob Riley and
his sister Minda Riley Campbell
2322
01:40:57,119 --> 01:40:59,754
have been awarded
no bid contracts for
the state of Alabama
2323
01:40:59,787 --> 01:41:01,423
as well as representing others
2324
01:41:01,456 --> 01:41:03,591
seeking a political advantage.
2325
01:41:03,625 --> 01:41:06,228
Stephen Faega left the
prosecutor's office
2326
01:41:06,261 --> 01:41:07,795
and now serves as
Deputy Director
2327
01:41:07,829 --> 01:41:09,397
of Enforcement and Prosecution
2328
01:41:09,431 --> 01:41:12,200
for the Alabama
Securities Commission.
2329
01:41:12,234 --> 01:41:13,435
- What can you do?
2330
01:41:13,468 --> 01:41:14,269
You can't give a
man his life back.
2331
01:41:14,302 --> 01:41:16,304
These people should
be prosecuted.
2332
01:41:16,338 --> 01:41:17,472
They should go to jail.
2333
01:41:17,505 --> 01:41:19,274
They should lose
their law licenses.
2334
01:41:19,307 --> 01:41:20,508
They should be punished.
2335
01:41:20,542 --> 01:41:23,311
- [Narrator] Louis Franklin
is still a federal prosecutor
2336
01:41:23,345 --> 01:41:25,513
and continues to maintain
close associations
2337
01:41:25,547 --> 01:41:27,282
with Bill and Leura Canary.
2338
01:41:27,315 --> 01:41:29,351
Unsurprisingly, he's
never acknowledged
2339
01:41:29,384 --> 01:41:32,220
any prosecutorial misconduct
in the Siegelman case.
2340
01:41:32,254 --> 01:41:33,755
- We expect more than that
2341
01:41:33,788 --> 01:41:36,191
of prosecutors in the
United States of America.
2342
01:41:36,224 --> 01:41:37,459
We're better than that.
2343
01:41:37,492 --> 01:41:40,395
We're supposed to be the best
and generally we are the best.
2344
01:41:40,428 --> 01:41:43,298
In this case, we were the worst.
2345
01:41:43,331 --> 01:41:44,266
- [Narrator] Since
coming forward,
2346
01:41:44,299 --> 01:41:47,235
Jill Simpson has endured
significant hardships.
2347
01:41:47,269 --> 01:41:49,471
The Alabama State Bar
placed her on disability
2348
01:41:49,504 --> 01:41:52,374
and she's been the target
of multiple attacks.
2349
01:41:52,407 --> 01:41:54,442
- The initial two attacks were
2350
01:41:54,476 --> 01:41:58,446
she's driving along the road
and SUV comes up to her side.
2351
01:41:59,847 --> 01:42:02,617
She does go off the
road, car overturns,
2352
01:42:02,650 --> 01:42:05,420
and she was injured
but survived.
2353
01:42:07,522 --> 01:42:11,293
Second attack was a fire
bombing of her home,
2354
01:42:11,959 --> 01:42:14,229
which again she survived.
2355
01:42:15,497 --> 01:42:16,864
- [Narrator] George Beck,
the attorney that arranged
2356
01:42:16,898 --> 01:42:19,467
for Bailey to testify
against Siegelman and Scrushy
2357
01:42:19,501 --> 01:42:22,404
and said to be in possession
of Nick Bailey's missing notes,
2358
01:42:22,437 --> 01:42:25,540
was selected by the Obama
Administration and Eric Holder
2359
01:42:25,573 --> 01:42:28,510
to replace Leura Canary
as Federal Prosecutor
2360
01:42:28,543 --> 01:42:31,513
for the Middle
District of Alabama.
2361
01:42:31,546 --> 01:42:34,182
- Given what we now
know about the case
2362
01:42:34,216 --> 01:42:36,951
and all that went wrong,
all of the misconduct,
2363
01:42:36,984 --> 01:42:39,587
why the government would
continue to try and shield them
2364
01:42:39,621 --> 01:42:43,458
and retain and withhold
their documents
2365
01:42:43,491 --> 01:42:46,228
after all that's been
publicly disclosed already
2366
01:42:46,261 --> 01:42:48,530
is something that's just
truly astonishing to me.
2367
01:42:48,563 --> 01:42:49,897
- [Narrator] A few
days after the trial,
2368
01:42:49,931 --> 01:42:52,900
juror Katie Flipper Langer
reached out to prosecutors
2369
01:42:52,934 --> 01:42:54,001
with a request.
2370
01:42:54,035 --> 01:42:56,804
She decided to trade in
her leotard for law books
2371
01:42:56,838 --> 01:42:58,473
and enrolled in law school.
2372
01:42:58,506 --> 01:43:00,508
She's now an Alabama
state prosecutor
2373
01:43:00,542 --> 01:43:03,578
working with colleagues
Matt Hart and Keith Baker.
2374
01:43:03,611 --> 01:43:05,747
Alabama Attorney
General Luther Strange,
2375
01:43:05,780 --> 01:43:08,483
who accepted Poarch Creek
casino campaign cash
2376
01:43:08,516 --> 01:43:11,553
just before shutting down
Victoryland, got a promotion.
2377
01:43:11,586 --> 01:43:13,621
He was selected by then
governor Bob Bentley
2378
01:43:13,655 --> 01:43:16,258
to replace Jeff
Sessions in Washington.
2379
01:43:16,291 --> 01:43:18,693
He's now addressed
as Senator Strange.
2380
01:43:18,726 --> 01:43:21,296
- They killed the lottery
by indicting Siegelman,
2381
01:43:21,329 --> 01:43:25,533
they got Siegelman put in
prison, the Choctaw Indians,
2382
01:43:25,567 --> 01:43:28,403
and they put this
formula together
2383
01:43:29,604 --> 01:43:33,908
and it was to make money
through political power.
2384
01:43:33,941 --> 01:43:36,711
As Tom Jones said in
the infamous movie
2385
01:43:36,744 --> 01:43:40,482
in his song What's New
Pussycat, it is there.
2386
01:43:41,616 --> 01:43:42,817
- [Narrator] Thanks
to Eric Holder,
2387
01:43:42,850 --> 01:43:44,919
Karl Rove has never been
questioned under oath
2388
01:43:44,952 --> 01:43:46,421
regarding the attorney firings,
2389
01:43:46,454 --> 01:43:49,524
the missing RNC emails,
or the Siegelman case
2390
01:43:49,557 --> 01:43:51,593
and has never publicly
denied his role
2391
01:43:51,626 --> 01:43:52,594
in any of the scandals.
2392
01:43:52,627 --> 01:43:55,263
However, he was asked
about his involvement
2393
01:43:55,297 --> 01:43:57,665
in the Siegelman by
George Stephanopoulos.
2394
01:43:57,699 --> 01:43:59,000
- To be clear, you
did not contact
2395
01:43:59,033 --> 01:44:00,201
the Justice Department
about this case?
2396
01:44:00,234 --> 01:44:03,605
- I read about, I'm gonna
simply say what I said before,
2397
01:44:03,638 --> 01:44:06,541
which is I found about Don
Siegelman's investigation
2398
01:44:06,574 --> 01:44:08,376
and indictment by reading
about it in the newspaper.
2399
01:44:08,410 --> 01:44:09,844
- [George] But
that's not a denial.
2400
01:44:09,877 --> 01:44:11,646
- I've, you know...
2401
01:44:12,847 --> 01:44:15,583
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