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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:19,353 --> 00:00:21,396 All right. '93. 2 00:00:24,316 --> 00:00:26,652 Um... 3 00:00:33,033 --> 00:00:34,368 How old were you again? 4 00:00:35,786 --> 00:00:38,163 Twenty-three. I was 23 years old. Yeah. 5 00:00:39,873 --> 00:00:42,209 And I was visiting a good buddy 6 00:00:42,709 --> 00:00:46,004 working on a cannabis farm up in Northern California. 7 00:00:50,926 --> 00:00:53,220 The drive up 101 to Mendocino, 8 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,597 I remember it was really foggy, 9 00:00:56,348 --> 00:00:57,808 and it was raining hard. 10 00:00:59,726 --> 00:01:01,996 And it would continue to rain almost non-stop 11 00:01:02,020 --> 00:01:04,439 for my entire time in Mendocino. 12 00:01:05,023 --> 00:01:07,568 Like, just constant hard driving cold rain. 13 00:01:10,279 --> 00:01:12,757 As soon as you cross the line into Mendocino County 14 00:01:12,781 --> 00:01:14,259 out of wine country, 15 00:01:14,283 --> 00:01:16,118 the trees are just huge. 16 00:01:16,869 --> 00:01:20,289 They're so tall that the canopy, it cuts out the daylight. 17 00:01:23,709 --> 00:01:25,544 I got to the town of Branscomb. 18 00:01:26,962 --> 00:01:30,716 And my friend came and met me in a jacked-up 4-by-4 truck. 19 00:01:36,513 --> 00:01:38,682 It was the first time I had been on the back roads. 20 00:01:42,519 --> 00:01:44,521 Every property there is gated. 21 00:01:46,773 --> 00:01:50,194 Most of the properties had posted "no trespassing" for a reason. 22 00:01:53,155 --> 00:01:57,135 You know, locked gate after locked gate, the roads get smaller and gnarlier 23 00:01:57,159 --> 00:02:00,495 until we finally get to the cannabis farm. 24 00:02:04,625 --> 00:02:06,686 And my friend had set up shop 25 00:02:06,710 --> 00:02:08,938 and was laying his head in sort of an outbuilding. 26 00:02:08,962 --> 00:02:12,132 It had no heat, no electricity, no water, nothing like that. 27 00:02:14,343 --> 00:02:17,554 The next day, I put in a little work on the farm. 28 00:02:21,642 --> 00:02:25,663 And interacting with other workers on the farm, 29 00:02:25,687 --> 00:02:26,980 they were all 30 00:02:28,023 --> 00:02:32,236 telling stories about how there was this Sasquatch running around, 31 00:02:32,861 --> 00:02:36,198 that was threatening people in backwoods cannabis patches. 32 00:02:37,115 --> 00:02:39,576 They're, like, growling at people from the tree line 33 00:02:40,494 --> 00:02:41,912 and bluff charging. 34 00:02:42,329 --> 00:02:45,016 Running at somebody, then skittering off into the distance, 35 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,937 or hurling rocks, like big rocks just come chunking down 36 00:02:48,961 --> 00:02:50,337 from ridge lines. 37 00:02:54,424 --> 00:02:56,194 And I was like, are these people fucking with me? 38 00:02:56,218 --> 00:02:58,947 Like, is the, like, fuck with the outsider new guy, 39 00:02:58,971 --> 00:03:00,264 trying to scare me? 40 00:03:05,102 --> 00:03:07,354 Accounts varied. Sometimes it was the same Sasquatch. 41 00:03:09,439 --> 00:03:12,585 Sometimes it was a tribe of Sasquatch that were like all riled up 42 00:03:12,609 --> 00:03:15,380 because they were starting to put cannabis farms too far out 43 00:03:15,404 --> 00:03:17,322 in Bigfoot territory. 44 00:03:22,578 --> 00:03:24,538 And that's when things got even a little weirder. 45 00:03:28,458 --> 00:03:29,918 The second night I'm there, 46 00:03:32,963 --> 00:03:35,299 the guy that owns the place, he was rolling joints. 47 00:03:37,134 --> 00:03:38,510 He got a phone call. 48 00:03:42,514 --> 00:03:43,992 The conversation was a little tense. 49 00:03:44,016 --> 00:03:46,216 I mean, I remember him saying like, "You guys on a run? 50 00:03:46,810 --> 00:03:48,090 Have you got everything sorted?" 51 00:03:48,812 --> 00:03:51,315 And then he was like, "Okay. Okay." 52 00:03:52,065 --> 00:03:54,252 And like, "All right, but keep him mellow. 53 00:03:54,276 --> 00:03:55,527 You gotta keep him mellow." 54 00:03:59,489 --> 00:04:01,158 About 15, 20 minutes later, 55 00:04:02,784 --> 00:04:05,329 I see headlights of a truck outside. 56 00:04:07,206 --> 00:04:08,874 These two guys come in, they're soaked, 57 00:04:09,499 --> 00:04:10,709 they're muddy, 58 00:04:11,293 --> 00:04:15,506 and one of them was... talking a mile a minute. 59 00:04:16,423 --> 00:04:18,776 His eyes were like the eyes of a panicked horse, 60 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,302 you know, they're rolling around. 61 00:04:21,970 --> 00:04:24,032 I was sketched out enough by this guy's presence 62 00:04:24,056 --> 00:04:26,683 that I was just kinda trying to become one with the couch. 63 00:04:28,894 --> 00:04:30,997 The owner of the farm is trying to calm him down. 64 00:04:31,021 --> 00:04:32,999 He's like, just be cool, be cool, be cool. 65 00:04:33,023 --> 00:04:35,001 And his voice got up, and he said, 66 00:04:35,025 --> 00:04:37,170 "No, it wasn't a fucking rip-off. 67 00:04:37,194 --> 00:04:38,463 "All the weed's still there. 68 00:04:38,487 --> 00:04:40,965 "It's ripped up, it's all over the place, but all the weed's still there. 69 00:04:40,989 --> 00:04:42,074 This wasn't a rip." 70 00:04:43,534 --> 00:04:46,179 The guy that owned the farm... said, 71 00:04:46,203 --> 00:04:47,329 "You sure they're dead?" 72 00:04:48,288 --> 00:04:50,016 He's like, "Are you fucking not listening to me?" 73 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,500 "Yes, I'm sure they're dead." 74 00:04:53,210 --> 00:04:54,354 "They're mangled." 75 00:04:54,378 --> 00:04:57,578 And then the other guy that was with him was like, "Yeah, man, they're mangled." 76 00:04:57,923 --> 00:04:59,692 And the guy was like repeating over and over. 77 00:04:59,716 --> 00:05:02,436 He was like, "We have to warn everybody. We have to warn everybody." 78 00:05:03,679 --> 00:05:07,224 He believed he had just seen three bodies 79 00:05:07,808 --> 00:05:10,853 dead, mangled, torn to pieces. 80 00:05:14,064 --> 00:05:16,167 He started to say something loud 81 00:05:16,191 --> 00:05:17,401 and was shushed. 82 00:05:18,277 --> 00:05:20,880 And then he said, "I'm telling you, man, 83 00:05:20,904 --> 00:05:22,823 a Bigfoot killed those guys." 84 00:05:29,913 --> 00:05:31,432 It was just before dusk, 85 00:05:31,456 --> 00:05:33,876 we heard this screaming cry. 86 00:05:36,211 --> 00:05:38,731 And I've heard every animal that lives in the locality, 87 00:05:38,755 --> 00:05:40,775 and it wasn't any of those. 88 00:05:40,799 --> 00:05:43,385 Everything was just dead quiet afterwards. 89 00:05:43,802 --> 00:05:46,597 It made the hair crawl on the back of your neck. 90 00:05:49,808 --> 00:05:51,435 The odor of this animal 91 00:05:52,186 --> 00:05:53,687 after I rolled the window down 92 00:05:54,438 --> 00:05:57,107 was so offensive that I couldn't remain there any longer. 93 00:05:58,483 --> 00:06:00,485 Now, this thing truly scared me. 94 00:06:07,576 --> 00:06:11,306 This is the sign that the creature struck, 95 00:06:11,330 --> 00:06:14,625 leaving these indentations, or scratch marks. 96 00:06:19,630 --> 00:06:21,941 Many sightings have revealed this creature to be 97 00:06:21,965 --> 00:06:24,736 between seven to nine feet tall 98 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,762 and 600 to 900 pounds. 99 00:06:29,890 --> 00:06:33,119 He had the most knowing look on his face. 100 00:06:33,143 --> 00:06:34,603 His eyes. 101 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,732 I remember the eyes I think more than anything else. 102 00:06:39,399 --> 00:06:43,421 The way it went up the mountain, the way everybody describes Bigfoot, 103 00:06:43,445 --> 00:06:45,006 that's the only thing I can think it was, 104 00:06:45,030 --> 00:06:48,325 because a bear just don't do things like that. 105 00:06:49,409 --> 00:06:51,119 I looked at that mountain, 106 00:06:51,578 --> 00:06:53,455 I knew I didn't want to be around it. 107 00:06:54,456 --> 00:06:57,292 I knew something was there or something was watching me. 108 00:07:14,184 --> 00:07:15,620 I don't think 109 00:07:15,644 --> 00:07:19,314 that I had ever told anybody that story. 110 00:07:20,899 --> 00:07:22,669 I mean, I got plenty of stories, 111 00:07:22,693 --> 00:07:24,838 that like, sitting around, like, shooting the shit with people. 112 00:07:24,862 --> 00:07:27,423 Like, I'll, I'll lay out there things that I experienced. 113 00:07:27,447 --> 00:07:30,385 I don't think... That's never been in my repertoire 114 00:07:30,409 --> 00:07:32,095 of, like, stories that you share about, 115 00:07:32,119 --> 00:07:34,319 well, here's a crazy fucking thing that happened to me. 116 00:07:35,998 --> 00:07:38,125 It just seems unbelievable. 117 00:07:44,590 --> 00:07:48,927 I wasn't even sure at first if I was completely misremembering this. 118 00:07:50,721 --> 00:07:55,142 So, square one, I looked at missing persons reports. 119 00:08:02,065 --> 00:08:03,251 Nothing matched. 120 00:08:03,275 --> 00:08:05,545 There was no, like, three males 121 00:08:05,569 --> 00:08:07,505 that went missing that were last seen 122 00:08:07,529 --> 00:08:09,215 anywhere in either of those counties, 123 00:08:09,239 --> 00:08:10,532 like, in the right time frame. 124 00:08:15,204 --> 00:08:17,039 As an investigative journalist, 125 00:08:17,789 --> 00:08:21,793 I believe that the truth is never told in the nine-to-five hours. 126 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,942 I realized pretty early on in my career that I had a knack 127 00:08:27,966 --> 00:08:30,737 for immersing myself 128 00:08:30,761 --> 00:08:32,846 in different worlds. 129 00:08:35,182 --> 00:08:38,769 Embedding with Chicano street gangs on both sides of a turf war, 130 00:08:39,353 --> 00:08:41,915 running dope with drug mules, 131 00:08:41,939 --> 00:08:44,667 staying up for 72 hours with crystal meth heads, 132 00:08:44,691 --> 00:08:47,361 going undercover as a neo-Nazi skinhead, that kind of shit. 133 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,920 Those are kind of stories I went after and how I went after them. 134 00:08:54,409 --> 00:08:57,287 Stalking monsters was a recurring theme for me. 135 00:08:58,205 --> 00:09:00,767 If I decided you were a monster, I was coming for you, 136 00:09:00,791 --> 00:09:02,644 and nothing was gonna turn me aside. 137 00:09:02,668 --> 00:09:03,919 You were done. 138 00:09:10,300 --> 00:09:13,571 I've borne witness to a lot of crazy fucking stories. 139 00:09:13,595 --> 00:09:16,616 But the one about a Sasquatch wasting three dudes in dope country 140 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,684 is bar none the craziest, all right. 141 00:09:19,184 --> 00:09:23,331 And for a quarter-century and then some, I had just been carrying it with me, 142 00:09:23,355 --> 00:09:24,565 keeping it close. 143 00:09:25,023 --> 00:09:28,485 It's not in my nature to just set it down and walk away and forget about it. 144 00:09:28,986 --> 00:09:31,256 Because, sure, maybe it's just a ghost story, 145 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:32,698 maybe there's nothing to it. 146 00:09:33,156 --> 00:09:35,176 Or maybe somebody got away with murder. 147 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,120 And maybe I can find out who and how and why. 148 00:09:45,711 --> 00:09:48,088 Yeah. Nobody... Nobody ever talked about it. 149 00:09:48,797 --> 00:09:50,215 We never talked about it. 150 00:09:51,633 --> 00:09:53,552 It's like what, 26 years ago? 151 00:09:55,762 --> 00:09:57,157 I reached out to my buddy 152 00:09:57,181 --> 00:10:00,267 who, had the same experience that I did in the cabin that night. 153 00:10:01,226 --> 00:10:04,730 I was trying to figure out whether my memories were 154 00:10:05,898 --> 00:10:07,107 accurate, at all. 155 00:10:07,733 --> 00:10:09,627 - Did you hear them say Bigfoot? - Yeah. 156 00:10:09,651 --> 00:10:10,777 'Cause it was loud. 157 00:10:11,695 --> 00:10:14,198 And that's when I heard about the bodies. 158 00:10:14,740 --> 00:10:17,201 Right? You know, like the way they were all torn up. 159 00:10:17,868 --> 00:10:21,121 I'm like, okay, he remembers too, you know. 160 00:10:21,455 --> 00:10:23,725 At the time, I was scared shitless. 161 00:10:23,749 --> 00:10:26,585 Man, I was scared shitless the whole time I was up there. 162 00:10:27,669 --> 00:10:29,147 I wanted to see 163 00:10:29,171 --> 00:10:31,571 if he knew how to get a hold of the guy that owned the farm. 164 00:10:32,424 --> 00:10:35,236 But he's not telling me shit about how to get a hold of the guy, 165 00:10:35,260 --> 00:10:37,322 except he gave me a couple names that I already had 166 00:10:37,346 --> 00:10:38,972 of people that might have his number. 167 00:10:39,348 --> 00:10:41,951 I'll bet you went into town when you left the next day or whatever 168 00:10:41,975 --> 00:10:43,286 and started asking questions. 169 00:10:43,310 --> 00:10:45,205 Fuck, no, I didn't want any part of that. 170 00:10:45,229 --> 00:10:46,998 So why do you want to do it now? 171 00:10:47,022 --> 00:10:48,458 He's like, why are you doing this? 172 00:10:48,482 --> 00:10:50,627 You know. It set me back on my heels for a minute. 173 00:10:50,651 --> 00:10:53,320 Just like, "Whoa, why am I doing this?" 174 00:10:53,946 --> 00:10:57,550 Because it sounds ridiculous on the face of it. 175 00:10:57,574 --> 00:11:01,995 A Bigfoot... murdered three guys... on a dope farm. 176 00:11:04,039 --> 00:11:08,001 But... once you peel back the first layer of that 177 00:11:08,585 --> 00:11:10,939 and you get the first glimpse of the truth 178 00:11:10,963 --> 00:11:13,298 behind that crazy fucking story, 179 00:11:14,758 --> 00:11:17,320 it's hard not to just keep peeling back layers 180 00:11:17,344 --> 00:11:18,887 to try and really get at it. 181 00:11:25,394 --> 00:11:27,580 The region's called the Emerald Triangle 182 00:11:27,604 --> 00:11:29,290 because there's three counties 183 00:11:29,314 --> 00:11:32,276 Trinity, Humboldt, and Mendocino County. 184 00:11:34,444 --> 00:11:37,715 All three counties are famous worldwide 185 00:11:37,739 --> 00:11:42,744 for producing very high-grade bright green cannabis plants. 186 00:11:47,082 --> 00:11:48,685 It's only once you're in 187 00:11:48,709 --> 00:11:52,689 the deep redwoods in Mendocino County or Humboldt County 188 00:11:52,713 --> 00:11:56,192 that this story of Sasquatch, this legend 189 00:11:56,216 --> 00:11:57,551 that has been passed down, 190 00:11:58,093 --> 00:12:01,221 starting with the indigenous people of the region for hundreds of years, 191 00:12:01,763 --> 00:12:04,349 starts to feel like less of a frivolous legend. 192 00:12:06,018 --> 00:12:08,413 Those woods are a spooky place, 193 00:12:08,437 --> 00:12:13,483 and it does feel, in those woods, like you're being watched. 194 00:12:14,234 --> 00:12:17,487 Okay? You find yourself twitching a little bit. 195 00:12:34,963 --> 00:12:37,025 There's a dark history to this place. 196 00:12:37,049 --> 00:12:39,694 A lot of blood's been spilled beneath those redwood trees 197 00:12:39,718 --> 00:12:43,239 and going back at least as far as the 1860s 198 00:12:43,263 --> 00:12:45,116 with the California Gold Rush, 199 00:12:45,140 --> 00:12:49,120 you know, you got hordes of white frontiersmen and plunderers 200 00:12:49,144 --> 00:12:52,707 coming in the area just brutalizing the indigenous people 201 00:12:52,731 --> 00:12:55,251 and committing horrible massacres, 202 00:12:55,275 --> 00:12:57,903 including a number that targeted the Wiyot tribe. 203 00:12:58,779 --> 00:13:00,673 They snuck into the camps in the middle of the night 204 00:13:00,697 --> 00:13:03,492 and they used firearms to kill the adult men, 205 00:13:04,243 --> 00:13:08,848 and then they switched to knives, hatchets, and axes, 206 00:13:08,872 --> 00:13:14,002 and they butchered the women, children, and old people. 207 00:13:18,465 --> 00:13:23,095 Once the Gold Rush starts to die down, the timber industry springs up. 208 00:13:23,971 --> 00:13:27,951 That was the beginning of the rapacious loggers 209 00:13:27,975 --> 00:13:30,870 that were taking down the first old growth redwoods 210 00:13:30,894 --> 00:13:32,229 in Northern California. 211 00:13:32,688 --> 00:13:35,148 Stripping the land of natural resources. 212 00:13:37,401 --> 00:13:40,129 A hundred years later, 1970, 213 00:13:40,153 --> 00:13:43,466 95 percent of all the original redwoods had been cut down. 214 00:13:43,490 --> 00:13:45,426 A lot of those trees were over a thousand years old, 215 00:13:45,450 --> 00:13:46,577 and they're just gone. 216 00:13:50,247 --> 00:13:52,058 That was about the time the hippies 217 00:13:52,082 --> 00:13:54,459 and the Back to the Landers started to move in. 218 00:13:56,461 --> 00:14:00,591 And they were drawn there in part by the lawlessness of the place. 219 00:14:01,508 --> 00:14:04,154 Because, while there's a lot of danger in lawlessness, 220 00:14:04,178 --> 00:14:05,679 there's also a lot of freedom. 221 00:14:09,308 --> 00:14:11,077 A lot of people left the Bay area 222 00:14:11,101 --> 00:14:13,538 or migrated across the country to go to Humboldt 223 00:14:13,562 --> 00:14:15,373 to, like, live the simple life, right? 224 00:14:15,397 --> 00:14:17,709 To, to build a homestead, to have a community, 225 00:14:17,733 --> 00:14:20,194 to have their own schools, to grow their own food. 226 00:14:20,986 --> 00:14:23,256 We found community really quickly 227 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:24,883 'cause there were so many people 228 00:14:24,907 --> 00:14:27,743 with similar values, raising young children. 229 00:14:30,913 --> 00:14:34,249 We had an outhouse. We had one kerosene lamp. 230 00:14:34,875 --> 00:14:37,127 We had no electricity whatsoever. 231 00:14:40,047 --> 00:14:43,651 There's a great power to being on the mountain, 232 00:14:43,675 --> 00:14:45,636 and it's a beautiful way to live. 233 00:14:46,053 --> 00:14:47,721 And it starts to fix you. 234 00:14:50,265 --> 00:14:51,160 People thought, 235 00:14:51,184 --> 00:14:53,828 wow, we just stopped the Vietnam War, you know, 236 00:14:53,852 --> 00:14:57,123 it's the Age of Aquarius, a lot of magical thinking 237 00:14:57,147 --> 00:15:00,043 about how the system was gonna transform 238 00:15:00,067 --> 00:15:01,794 and everything was gonna be, 239 00:15:01,818 --> 00:15:03,779 unicorns and rainbows. 240 00:15:07,908 --> 00:15:09,552 Most people had not originally 241 00:15:09,576 --> 00:15:12,138 gone up to the Emerald Triangle to grow marijuana. 242 00:15:12,162 --> 00:15:14,599 They went up there because they wanted to go back to nature 243 00:15:14,623 --> 00:15:17,084 and have a nice place for their kids to grow up. 244 00:15:18,836 --> 00:15:20,688 Only to discover once they were there 245 00:15:20,712 --> 00:15:22,232 that there weren't a whole lot of other ways 246 00:15:22,256 --> 00:15:23,650 to earn a living. 247 00:15:23,674 --> 00:15:26,635 So, basically, most people got into marijuana by default. 248 00:15:30,931 --> 00:15:36,144 Having a cash crop, that allowed the locals to thrive. 249 00:15:39,815 --> 00:15:43,861 The owner of the farm where I wound up in the fall of 1993 250 00:15:44,695 --> 00:15:48,782 originally moved up there to kinda like, you know, get off the grid 251 00:15:49,241 --> 00:15:51,201 and get back to the land. 252 00:15:53,287 --> 00:15:55,849 Then he saw how much money you can make growing dope, 253 00:15:55,873 --> 00:15:57,416 and he became a major grower. 254 00:16:05,090 --> 00:16:09,261 You could take a bite of Greenshine, my creation. 255 00:16:09,845 --> 00:16:13,449 Big nice chunky old-time bud. 256 00:16:13,473 --> 00:16:18,413 Northern Mendocino County probably has the best climate 257 00:16:18,437 --> 00:16:21,166 for growing cannabis... by far. 258 00:16:21,190 --> 00:16:22,608 Nice little joint. 259 00:16:23,192 --> 00:16:24,484 Everything out there, 260 00:16:25,068 --> 00:16:26,921 the flowers are more intense, 261 00:16:26,945 --> 00:16:29,781 the wild-crafted herbs are more intense. 262 00:16:30,199 --> 00:16:32,135 It has the tastiest tomatoes. 263 00:16:32,159 --> 00:16:36,472 And by extension, the cannabis that people have grown out there 264 00:16:36,496 --> 00:16:38,624 is just the best in the world. 265 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,154 And here's... Look at this. 266 00:16:51,178 --> 00:16:53,740 Here... Wait a minute. Sasquatch has appeared. 267 00:16:53,764 --> 00:16:56,117 Here he is. Woo-woo, it's Sasquatch. 268 00:16:56,141 --> 00:16:59,645 Woo! Yaa! I'm not so scary or tough. 269 00:17:01,230 --> 00:17:02,790 Talk about Bigfoot. Let's talk about Sasquatch. 270 00:17:02,814 --> 00:17:04,792 What's your take on Sasquatch, Bigfoot? 271 00:17:04,816 --> 00:17:06,856 - Like, what... what is Sasquatch. - Well, you know, 272 00:17:07,027 --> 00:17:11,925 I personally have never seen one 273 00:17:11,949 --> 00:17:15,410 or seen anything that said to me, 274 00:17:16,203 --> 00:17:18,473 my god, this is pretty good evidence, 275 00:17:18,497 --> 00:17:21,684 but I'm kind of from Missouri on that stuff. 276 00:17:21,708 --> 00:17:24,187 I'll be open to a lot of things, 277 00:17:24,211 --> 00:17:27,607 but for me to say I know it or got it, 278 00:17:27,631 --> 00:17:29,901 I pretty much got to experience it firsthand, 279 00:17:29,925 --> 00:17:30,925 and I have not. 280 00:17:31,343 --> 00:17:33,154 The one thing I have heard, 281 00:17:33,178 --> 00:17:35,824 about Sasquatch 282 00:17:35,848 --> 00:17:37,307 is that, um, 283 00:17:38,183 --> 00:17:42,247 usually before you see them, if the wind is blowing right, you get 284 00:17:42,271 --> 00:17:46,149 they have a very sweet, musky smell. 285 00:17:48,068 --> 00:17:51,673 That could be when she's in that time of her moon cycle 286 00:17:51,697 --> 00:17:54,867 and when she's really, looking for love. 287 00:18:05,627 --> 00:18:08,189 - Hello? - Hey, this is, David Holthouse. 288 00:18:08,213 --> 00:18:12,193 So I start contacting everybody that I can find 289 00:18:12,217 --> 00:18:15,029 that was a part of the cannabis industry 290 00:18:15,053 --> 00:18:17,639 in the Emerald Triangle in the early 1990s. 291 00:18:18,348 --> 00:18:20,994 I've heard a pretty crazy story 292 00:18:21,018 --> 00:18:23,746 that, a Sasquatch had killed 293 00:18:23,770 --> 00:18:25,981 three guys on a weed farm. 294 00:18:26,565 --> 00:18:28,751 Does that sound like a story you heard before? 295 00:18:28,775 --> 00:18:31,546 Not at all. 296 00:18:31,570 --> 00:18:34,090 No. I wish I had. 297 00:18:34,114 --> 00:18:36,408 Anything like that ringing any kind of bell? 298 00:18:36,909 --> 00:18:37,845 No. 299 00:18:37,869 --> 00:18:41,472 Sasquatch. Murder. Dope farm. Anything like that? 300 00:18:41,496 --> 00:18:42,682 Yeah, no. 301 00:18:42,706 --> 00:18:45,542 Boy. 302 00:18:48,045 --> 00:18:50,690 That's the funniest thing I ever heard. 303 00:18:50,714 --> 00:18:54,569 So, no. But, you know, I, I, I'm very much interested 304 00:18:54,593 --> 00:18:55,695 in the UFO subject. 305 00:18:55,719 --> 00:18:59,115 You may know that the Navy has come out with statements 306 00:18:59,139 --> 00:19:00,909 that the Navy has... What? 307 00:19:00,933 --> 00:19:02,518 Been hitting dead ends. 308 00:19:03,101 --> 00:19:07,832 So decided to hire a private investigator. 309 00:19:07,856 --> 00:19:10,001 - Hey, Dave, how are you? - Good, man. 310 00:19:10,025 --> 00:19:12,712 So I'll just sorta start from the beginning. I'd just graduated... 311 00:19:12,736 --> 00:19:17,658 The thinking was get an ex-cop who's now a PI in Mendocino County. 312 00:19:18,367 --> 00:19:20,887 They're gonna be familiar with the dope world. 313 00:19:20,911 --> 00:19:23,747 They're probably gonna have sources in that world now. 314 00:19:24,540 --> 00:19:26,792 So somebody that had a foot in both worlds. 315 00:19:46,228 --> 00:19:47,247 Right. 316 00:19:47,271 --> 00:19:49,439 So he's like, yeah, let me dig around for you. 317 00:19:52,651 --> 00:19:54,194 Try and find another angle here. 318 00:20:04,371 --> 00:20:06,850 Anybody ever tell you firsthand about a Sasquatch 319 00:20:06,874 --> 00:20:08,810 that was aggressive or violent toward them? 320 00:20:08,834 --> 00:20:09,834 Like, firsthand story. 321 00:20:32,691 --> 00:20:36,087 I started thinking if anybody has, heard this story 322 00:20:36,111 --> 00:20:37,487 it's gonna be "squatchers." 323 00:20:39,364 --> 00:20:42,385 Mendocino County, Humboldt County, this whole region, 324 00:20:42,409 --> 00:20:44,387 it's most famous for two things 325 00:20:44,411 --> 00:20:46,514 One is Sasquatch habitat, 326 00:20:46,538 --> 00:20:48,290 the other is cannabis farms. 327 00:21:53,188 --> 00:21:56,626 When I got to Northern California back in 1993, 328 00:21:56,650 --> 00:21:58,253 I mean, I knew that 329 00:21:58,277 --> 00:22:01,214 the lore of the place was that the Patterson-Gimlin film 330 00:22:01,238 --> 00:22:04,408 had been captured, you know, not far from where I was. 331 00:22:21,884 --> 00:22:23,653 Right here, in this big comfortable chair? 332 00:22:23,677 --> 00:22:25,971 - Yes, please. - Okay. Thank you. 333 00:22:33,979 --> 00:22:37,191 Hey, that is perfect. Thank you so much. 334 00:22:39,401 --> 00:22:41,588 People have said there's no such thing, 335 00:22:41,612 --> 00:22:44,924 no such creature can exist. 336 00:22:44,948 --> 00:22:49,036 So we decided to see if we could find more evidence. 337 00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:55,185 We rode every day 338 00:22:55,209 --> 00:22:57,228 miles and miles and miles, 339 00:22:57,252 --> 00:22:59,397 about 35, 40 miles a day, 340 00:22:59,421 --> 00:23:03,634 making big circles around and through the mountains. 341 00:23:04,801 --> 00:23:06,571 The 20th day, 342 00:23:06,595 --> 00:23:08,722 it was about two o'clock in the afternoon. 343 00:23:09,515 --> 00:23:12,035 The sun was still up, nice. 344 00:23:12,059 --> 00:23:14,412 We was riding up the creek bed, 345 00:23:14,436 --> 00:23:15,562 and, um 346 00:23:17,105 --> 00:23:18,273 all at once 347 00:23:18,982 --> 00:23:21,777 one was standing across the creek 348 00:23:22,319 --> 00:23:24,238 looking straight at us. 349 00:23:30,202 --> 00:23:32,579 Roger got his camera out. 350 00:23:40,921 --> 00:23:43,423 You see her make that famous 351 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,236 turn like that 352 00:23:46,260 --> 00:23:49,179 to look at me when I got off the horse. 353 00:23:55,561 --> 00:23:57,813 When I saw her, I thought, 354 00:23:58,564 --> 00:24:02,359 "My god, these things really do exist." 355 00:24:04,194 --> 00:24:07,281 You ever heard of a Sasquatch attacking or killing people? 356 00:24:07,781 --> 00:24:09,342 No. Not at all. 357 00:24:09,366 --> 00:24:12,995 I've heard of stories of where they've protected people, 358 00:24:13,829 --> 00:24:16,891 but never any stories 359 00:24:16,915 --> 00:24:20,752 of, of, of people being killed by them. 360 00:24:21,170 --> 00:24:23,463 In my opinion, if we, 361 00:24:24,756 --> 00:24:27,050 if we do go into the woods, 362 00:24:27,801 --> 00:24:29,904 go with an open mind. 363 00:24:29,928 --> 00:24:33,223 Appreciate the forest, appreciate everything there, 364 00:24:34,308 --> 00:24:36,393 and maybe you might see one. 365 00:24:40,814 --> 00:24:42,458 Georges, you're over there. 366 00:24:42,482 --> 00:24:44,169 No, this way. 367 00:24:44,193 --> 00:24:45,235 I'm sorry. 368 00:24:48,488 --> 00:24:50,216 That's what he said, the chair. 369 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:51,800 What? I thought it was the other way. 370 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,222 Where do we differ on what Sasquatch is? 371 00:24:56,246 --> 00:24:58,892 Well, you believe that Sasquatch can teleport and. 372 00:24:58,916 --> 00:25:00,101 - No. - Yes, you do. 373 00:25:00,125 --> 00:25:01,394 - No, I do not. - Yes, you do. You do. 374 00:25:01,418 --> 00:25:02,188 Do not go there. 375 00:25:02,212 --> 00:25:03,980 And you believe that he... he can cloak 376 00:25:04,004 --> 00:25:05,356 and all that other fucking bullshit. 377 00:25:05,380 --> 00:25:06,900 - No, I do not, goddammit. - Yes, you do. 378 00:25:06,924 --> 00:25:08,568 - We've talked about it before. - The only thing... 379 00:25:08,592 --> 00:25:09,528 Yeah, and you get it wrong. 380 00:25:09,552 --> 00:25:10,904 - The only thing I believe... - No. I think... 381 00:25:10,928 --> 00:25:12,530 He's... he's just a being. 382 00:25:12,554 --> 00:25:15,182 He's a blood and guts human being kind of creature. 383 00:25:20,312 --> 00:25:23,833 So many people have experiences. I've had personal experiences. 384 00:25:23,857 --> 00:25:28,087 I have walked into woods and had noises following me, 385 00:25:28,111 --> 00:25:29,988 and I know that it wasn't a kitty cat. 386 00:25:36,954 --> 00:25:40,266 My first encounters were 387 00:25:40,290 --> 00:25:41,667 when I was ten, 388 00:25:42,334 --> 00:25:45,170 what I saw out the window at two o'clock in the morning. 389 00:25:47,339 --> 00:25:49,007 You know? Those eyes. 390 00:25:51,885 --> 00:25:54,513 And I remember screaming. 391 00:25:57,099 --> 00:25:59,077 I was camping and around, 392 00:25:59,101 --> 00:26:01,621 I would say two o'clock in the morning or so, 393 00:26:01,645 --> 00:26:03,248 I hear noises, 394 00:26:03,272 --> 00:26:07,067 and then I see my tent being squished down. 395 00:26:08,652 --> 00:26:11,756 And then I start screaming and screaming and screaming, 396 00:26:11,780 --> 00:26:14,366 and then I just... hit the tent. 397 00:26:15,075 --> 00:26:18,662 Then this thing just, like, jumped up and you could hear it moving backwards 398 00:26:19,496 --> 00:26:20,873 and just running off. 399 00:26:22,708 --> 00:26:23,935 And I'm just, like, terrified. 400 00:26:23,959 --> 00:26:26,336 I mean, I am just terrified the rest of the night. 401 00:26:30,883 --> 00:26:32,384 I used to go fishing a lot. 402 00:26:33,343 --> 00:26:34,803 This one particular night, 403 00:26:35,929 --> 00:26:38,015 I turned and I looked up the river 404 00:26:38,765 --> 00:26:40,559 and all I could see 405 00:26:41,226 --> 00:26:43,020 was this, um 406 00:26:44,521 --> 00:26:47,024 just, like a, a form. 407 00:26:47,566 --> 00:26:49,085 It was... 408 00:26:49,109 --> 00:26:50,109 Sorry. 409 00:26:51,612 --> 00:26:54,132 Um, it stank, 410 00:26:54,156 --> 00:26:56,241 and it looked like it was, um, 411 00:26:57,451 --> 00:27:00,412 covered with, like, dreadlocks. 412 00:27:01,538 --> 00:27:03,892 And it was just going through the water, 413 00:27:03,916 --> 00:27:07,169 and I couldn't figure out what that could have been. 414 00:27:07,794 --> 00:27:10,339 Then all of a sudden, um, 415 00:27:11,173 --> 00:27:12,758 this, 416 00:27:15,886 --> 00:27:18,239 See? My hair's standing up on my arms now. 417 00:27:18,263 --> 00:27:19,848 It's this scream 418 00:27:20,682 --> 00:27:24,061 um... like a, a banshee. 419 00:27:27,231 --> 00:27:29,942 I turned and I ran. I, I never went back. 420 00:27:32,986 --> 00:27:35,656 And I know that if I'd stuck around, 421 00:27:39,868 --> 00:27:41,537 I might not be here. 422 00:27:44,831 --> 00:27:46,208 All I know is it 423 00:27:48,627 --> 00:27:50,563 it scared the crap out of me. 424 00:27:50,587 --> 00:27:53,274 It's the only time in my life that, um, 425 00:27:53,298 --> 00:27:54,591 I've been that scared. 426 00:28:11,567 --> 00:28:13,777 One of the first questions I'm often asked, 427 00:28:14,403 --> 00:28:17,757 by people, including journalists, 428 00:28:17,781 --> 00:28:20,158 is, "So you believe in Bigfoot?" 429 00:28:22,327 --> 00:28:25,289 And I say, "No. I don't believe in Bigfoot" 430 00:28:26,540 --> 00:28:29,519 and let that stew for just a moment until they're uncomfortable 431 00:28:29,543 --> 00:28:32,438 and then explain when I'm asked that question, 432 00:28:32,462 --> 00:28:35,424 usually from a skeptical point of view, 433 00:28:35,924 --> 00:28:39,571 it usually connotes a position of faith. 434 00:28:39,595 --> 00:28:43,182 Have I accepted something in the absence of evidence? 435 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,854 And no, I'm convinced that Sasquatch exists. 436 00:28:50,022 --> 00:28:52,065 It's the evidence that convinces me. 437 00:28:53,567 --> 00:28:57,446 The most compelling evidence for the existence of Sasquatch, 438 00:28:57,821 --> 00:29:01,783 from my point of expertise, is the footprint evidence. 439 00:29:02,659 --> 00:29:05,054 I've spent a lot of time assembling 440 00:29:05,078 --> 00:29:09,082 a very large sample of footprints from all over North America. 441 00:29:09,791 --> 00:29:12,145 When we consider the odds 442 00:29:12,169 --> 00:29:16,006 that all these tracks are simply spurious hoaxes, 443 00:29:17,007 --> 00:29:18,693 it becomes incredible. 444 00:29:18,717 --> 00:29:22,614 How is it that these hoaxers have incorporated 445 00:29:22,638 --> 00:29:25,700 things that have only come to light and been understood 446 00:29:25,724 --> 00:29:28,912 in the realm of science and anthropology 447 00:29:28,936 --> 00:29:31,730 in the past, you know, few decades? 448 00:29:34,149 --> 00:29:36,127 If I were to estimate 449 00:29:36,151 --> 00:29:39,988 the number of Sasquatch here in Idaho, 450 00:29:40,906 --> 00:29:44,010 I would come up with a figure that, even if I was liberal, 451 00:29:44,034 --> 00:29:46,078 about maybe 300. 452 00:29:46,411 --> 00:29:50,141 We're talking about a 100-fold more black bear 453 00:29:50,165 --> 00:29:51,518 than Sasquatch. 454 00:29:51,542 --> 00:29:53,478 How many carcasses of black bear 455 00:29:53,502 --> 00:29:55,420 do you stumble on when you're out on a hike? 456 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,676 Black bear are notoriously rare and elusive. 457 00:30:01,677 --> 00:30:03,929 They're called the shadow of the forest. 458 00:30:32,332 --> 00:30:36,295 As with any large and potentially dangerous animal, 459 00:30:36,628 --> 00:30:41,216 you need to show the proper, sensibility and precautions. 460 00:30:44,761 --> 00:30:47,973 I never go out in the field without pepper spray 461 00:30:48,348 --> 00:30:51,268 or a sidearm for personal security. 462 00:30:51,935 --> 00:30:57,292 I mean, after all, we're talking about a 800-to a 1,200-pound primate. 463 00:30:57,316 --> 00:31:00,545 They could lift 50-gallon barrels of oil 464 00:31:00,569 --> 00:31:02,905 and throw it like it's a toy. 465 00:31:03,322 --> 00:31:05,133 So they're so strong, they 466 00:31:05,157 --> 00:31:07,719 I mean, they could tear a body apart? 467 00:31:07,743 --> 00:31:08,827 Easily. 468 00:31:19,713 --> 00:31:21,173 Hey, man, how are you? 469 00:31:53,121 --> 00:31:56,542 If your friend was willing to, to talk to us 470 00:31:57,042 --> 00:32:00,355 or pass information through you, either one, like, we'd be, 471 00:32:00,379 --> 00:32:01,755 we're all ears, man. 472 00:32:17,646 --> 00:32:20,166 I didn't, like, get anywhere today, 473 00:32:20,190 --> 00:32:21,984 but one thing that I did 474 00:32:23,151 --> 00:32:25,004 notice today that I've noticed before 475 00:32:25,028 --> 00:32:27,382 just in, like, knocking around up here 476 00:32:27,406 --> 00:32:28,907 talking to people that are 477 00:32:29,491 --> 00:32:33,763 anybody associated with, like, the cannabis, sort of, cultivation 478 00:32:33,787 --> 00:32:36,349 scene up here then or now 479 00:32:36,373 --> 00:32:38,458 is that there's a current of 480 00:32:39,501 --> 00:32:43,648 belief in supernatural forces that runs deeper 481 00:32:43,672 --> 00:32:46,466 up here than I think in most places. 482 00:33:02,774 --> 00:33:05,420 I keep coming back to what I know, okay. 483 00:33:05,444 --> 00:33:07,613 What I know is what I heard 484 00:33:08,363 --> 00:33:10,782 in October 1993 in that cabin. 485 00:33:12,993 --> 00:33:14,494 I heard a guy that was like 486 00:33:15,162 --> 00:33:17,539 fucking terrified and traumatized. 487 00:33:19,416 --> 00:33:22,979 I am convinced that he was convinced 488 00:33:23,003 --> 00:33:25,964 that he had seen three bodies 489 00:33:27,090 --> 00:33:28,090 on a pot farm. 490 00:33:30,010 --> 00:33:31,010 They were mutilated, 491 00:33:32,095 --> 00:33:34,223 mangled, torn to pieces, 492 00:33:35,265 --> 00:33:38,018 and he believed that a Sasquatch had done it. 493 00:33:41,813 --> 00:33:44,709 I would go on in my career to be in situations 494 00:33:44,733 --> 00:33:47,879 where things got violent or things had just been violent, 495 00:33:47,903 --> 00:33:50,965 and always the temperature in the room sort of shifts. 496 00:33:50,989 --> 00:33:54,052 And these guys came into the place, and the temperature changed. 497 00:33:54,076 --> 00:33:55,702 You could actually feel it. 498 00:33:57,454 --> 00:34:01,017 So it was obvious that they were coming directly 499 00:34:01,041 --> 00:34:04,378 from having seen this scene of the murder. 500 00:34:05,003 --> 00:34:07,398 And I know that there were all these stories 501 00:34:07,422 --> 00:34:10,384 about aggressive Sasquatches at the time, because I heard them. 502 00:34:11,301 --> 00:34:13,345 You know? That's what I know. 503 00:34:17,432 --> 00:34:19,184 But I haven't found anybody else 504 00:34:20,143 --> 00:34:22,080 who's heard the story about three dudes getting killed 505 00:34:22,104 --> 00:34:24,022 on a dope farm in 1993. 506 00:34:25,357 --> 00:34:27,001 I mean, fuck. 507 00:34:27,025 --> 00:34:29,462 This is all grabbing at smoke right now still, you know. 508 00:34:29,486 --> 00:34:31,256 It's still all just grabbing at smoke. 509 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,365 It's just like... poof, you know. 510 00:34:45,502 --> 00:34:49,423 This friend of mine in LA put me on to a dope dealer in Oakland. 511 00:34:50,007 --> 00:34:51,925 Dope dealer in Oakland said. 512 00:34:52,634 --> 00:34:54,195 I wasn't up there at that time, 513 00:34:54,219 --> 00:34:57,014 but I know a guy who was for sure. 514 00:35:03,604 --> 00:35:04,646 Hey, is this Razor? 515 00:35:06,231 --> 00:35:07,709 Hey, Razor, my name's David Holthouse. 516 00:35:07,733 --> 00:35:10,920 I think a, mutual acquaintance of ours said I'd be giving you a call 517 00:35:10,944 --> 00:35:12,529 about a project that I got going. 518 00:35:14,907 --> 00:35:17,385 The time and place is Emerald Triangle, 519 00:35:17,409 --> 00:35:19,494 early to mid-1990s like. 520 00:35:20,370 --> 00:35:22,515 Our mutual acquaintance said that you had 521 00:35:22,539 --> 00:35:25,560 some valuable perspective and experience in that time and place. 522 00:35:25,584 --> 00:35:29,171 Can you just, tell me a little bit about your background in that regard. 523 00:35:39,431 --> 00:35:41,099 In Mendo and Humboldt? 524 00:35:43,268 --> 00:35:45,872 Well, listen, man, let me sorta lay this, 525 00:35:45,896 --> 00:35:47,790 this story out for you, okay. 526 00:35:47,814 --> 00:35:51,878 I heard three individuals were murdered 527 00:35:51,902 --> 00:35:53,946 on a weed farm 528 00:35:54,780 --> 00:35:58,575 somewhere in northern Mendocino County, I don't know where. 529 00:35:59,326 --> 00:36:01,662 And that the murders 530 00:36:02,204 --> 00:36:04,998 purportedly were carried out by a Sasquatch. 531 00:36:05,624 --> 00:36:06,625 Okay? 532 00:36:07,918 --> 00:36:09,211 Yeah? 533 00:36:09,753 --> 00:36:14,341 Does that ring... does that ring any sort of bell for you? 534 00:36:41,326 --> 00:36:42,971 Without missing a beat, he goes, 535 00:36:42,995 --> 00:36:45,664 three Mexican dudes in Mendo, fall of '93. 536 00:36:47,374 --> 00:36:48,375 Boom. 537 00:36:49,793 --> 00:36:52,671 You know... okay, tell me more. 538 00:37:07,060 --> 00:37:08,454 He says, yeah, 539 00:37:08,478 --> 00:37:10,498 I remember hearing that story in bars a lot. 540 00:37:10,522 --> 00:37:13,960 These three Mexican guys had gotten killed by a Bigfoot 541 00:37:13,984 --> 00:37:16,838 at a, at a, at a farm on Spy Rock Road. 542 00:37:16,862 --> 00:37:18,280 He said on Spy Rock Road. 543 00:37:20,949 --> 00:37:22,659 So... that's a lead. 544 00:37:23,660 --> 00:37:25,138 That's a lead. 545 00:37:25,162 --> 00:37:26,538 What's the Spy Rock area? 546 00:37:51,855 --> 00:37:54,250 You know, I was up in Spy Rock. 547 00:37:54,274 --> 00:37:56,944 I lived up in Spy Rock for some time. 548 00:38:00,155 --> 00:38:02,926 There's a stone on the way up to Spy Rock, 549 00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:06,179 and it's one of the oldest engraved petroglyphs 550 00:38:06,203 --> 00:38:07,996 in the whole United States. 551 00:38:10,249 --> 00:38:14,461 So... it has a whole mysticism to Spy Rock. 552 00:38:20,676 --> 00:38:24,364 It is inland enough and raises high enough 553 00:38:24,388 --> 00:38:26,849 above the cloud line and the fog line 554 00:38:27,516 --> 00:38:30,829 that if you get up the mountain a certain height, 555 00:38:30,853 --> 00:38:32,664 you don't deal with rot in the plants. 556 00:38:32,688 --> 00:38:35,107 In Sonoma County, everything rots. 557 00:38:37,276 --> 00:38:40,505 The plants on Spy Rock are far bigger 558 00:38:40,529 --> 00:38:42,215 than any plants 559 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,284 in Sonoma or Mendocino County. 560 00:38:49,496 --> 00:38:53,101 When you start getting thousands of feet up those mountains, 561 00:38:53,125 --> 00:38:56,312 you get into pretty rugged and hard terrain. 562 00:38:56,336 --> 00:39:01,276 And I wouldn't suggest anybody go wandering up there, 563 00:39:01,300 --> 00:39:04,904 um, looking around because it's not that kind of place. 564 00:39:04,928 --> 00:39:07,181 They don't want outsiders up there. 565 00:39:12,519 --> 00:39:15,439 How far away was the cabin you were in from Spy Rock Road? 566 00:39:16,356 --> 00:39:18,459 Let's see. Branscomb to Spy Rock Road is somewhere in the neighborhood 567 00:39:18,483 --> 00:39:19,776 of an hour, I would guess. 568 00:39:21,153 --> 00:39:23,464 - Let me check it, okay. - Just... - I believe you. 569 00:39:23,488 --> 00:39:24,656 No, I just want to know. 570 00:39:29,745 --> 00:39:32,206 Wait a minute, it's only 15 minutes. 571 00:39:33,373 --> 00:39:35,459 - Shit. - Yeah, it's only 15 minutes. 572 00:39:36,251 --> 00:39:38,521 I wouldn't be able to find the cabin I was in that night, 573 00:39:38,545 --> 00:39:41,256 but I know that it was... just outside 574 00:39:42,049 --> 00:39:43,049 of Branscomb. 575 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,344 So even if you stretch it out, 576 00:39:46,887 --> 00:39:49,264 you know, that they were north 577 00:39:49,890 --> 00:39:52,392 of Laytonville and I was south of Branscomb, 578 00:39:52,893 --> 00:39:55,687 maximum they would have been 30, 35 minutes away. 579 00:39:56,647 --> 00:39:58,291 It's quite possible that they were closer. 580 00:39:58,315 --> 00:40:01,610 So the geography and the time frame is pretty good match. 581 00:40:15,541 --> 00:40:17,060 Going to meet a guy named Razor, 582 00:40:17,084 --> 00:40:19,145 in the high desert outside Joshua Tree. 583 00:40:19,169 --> 00:40:21,648 And I don't know Razor's real name 584 00:40:21,672 --> 00:40:25,068 but I've asked around about him, and what I've heard is that 585 00:40:25,092 --> 00:40:27,362 he's, a guy that was raised 586 00:40:27,386 --> 00:40:29,364 by the Hells Angels in San Bernardino 587 00:40:29,388 --> 00:40:31,056 in the '60s, when he was a kid. 588 00:40:31,849 --> 00:40:35,495 He started growing cannabis sometime in the '70s 589 00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:37,664 and grew in Humboldt and Mendocino counties 590 00:40:37,688 --> 00:40:39,374 in the '80s all the way through the '90s. 591 00:40:39,398 --> 00:40:41,125 He got busted three times, 592 00:40:41,149 --> 00:40:43,711 did three bids in San Quentin, but he always kept his mouth shut. 593 00:40:43,735 --> 00:40:46,613 He never rolled over on anybody, never said anything to the cops. 594 00:40:47,531 --> 00:40:49,731 And that's earned him a lot of respect and credibility, 595 00:40:50,075 --> 00:40:54,037 among other cannabis growers in Northern California, so... 596 00:40:54,538 --> 00:40:56,933 And I've got plenty of people on the phone 597 00:40:56,957 --> 00:40:59,144 but whenever I'd work my way around to, 598 00:40:59,168 --> 00:41:01,688 well, hey, I'm looking into a triple homicide 599 00:41:01,712 --> 00:41:03,255 from the early '90s, 600 00:41:04,423 --> 00:41:08,051 I was always careful not to give anybody the, the date, 601 00:41:09,094 --> 00:41:11,698 um, because I didn't want them to just feed information back to me 602 00:41:11,722 --> 00:41:13,199 and take me for a ride. 603 00:41:13,223 --> 00:41:16,119 But when I finally got Razor on the phone and I laid that line on him, 604 00:41:16,143 --> 00:41:18,454 he immediately said, yeah, three Mexican guys 605 00:41:18,478 --> 00:41:22,441 on a backwoods patch in Mendo County, fall of 1993. 606 00:41:23,108 --> 00:41:24,460 So he nailed the date. 607 00:41:24,484 --> 00:41:27,046 So I think that he knows something. 608 00:41:27,070 --> 00:41:30,115 I think that he's at least heard the story or a version of the story. 609 00:41:34,745 --> 00:41:36,306 You've arrived at your destination. 610 00:41:36,330 --> 00:41:38,040 I have? 611 00:41:55,557 --> 00:41:57,017 That about how you like it? 612 00:41:59,811 --> 00:42:01,789 So the 1993 season, 613 00:42:01,813 --> 00:42:03,941 you heard a crazy fucking Bigfoot story. 614 00:42:06,235 --> 00:42:07,670 Tell me that story. 615 00:42:07,694 --> 00:42:10,381 You know... I'll say this, 616 00:42:10,405 --> 00:42:14,201 that time period was like... there was a lot going on. 617 00:42:16,537 --> 00:42:19,057 Every time I stopped for a second to take a breath 618 00:42:19,081 --> 00:42:21,250 and socialize for a minute with some people, 619 00:42:21,708 --> 00:42:23,269 I would hear stories. 620 00:42:23,293 --> 00:42:25,563 But this one story stood out 621 00:42:25,587 --> 00:42:29,567 just because I had never heard anyone, like, say it, 622 00:42:29,591 --> 00:42:30,843 you know, with such conviction. 623 00:42:32,135 --> 00:42:35,055 That was like a serious call to arms. 624 00:42:35,639 --> 00:42:38,910 This is the biggest threat we're going to be facing 625 00:42:38,934 --> 00:42:40,853 towards the end of the season, 626 00:42:42,312 --> 00:42:45,166 is we're gonna get attacked by Sasquatches. 627 00:42:45,190 --> 00:42:48,777 As if the stuff we were up against already wasn't enough. 628 00:43:10,007 --> 00:43:12,217 Um... 629 00:43:13,385 --> 00:43:16,197 Just got a, kind of a sketched out 630 00:43:16,221 --> 00:43:18,908 and unsettling text message 631 00:43:18,932 --> 00:43:22,996 from the former Mendocino County cop turned private investigator 632 00:43:23,020 --> 00:43:25,230 I've been working with the last couple weeks. 49877

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