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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,375 --> 00:00:06,458 (ATMOSPHERIC MUSIC) 2 00:00:07,896 --> 00:00:09,980 (BRIGHT, RISING MUSIC) 3 00:00:13,213 --> 00:00:15,296 (GENTLE FLUTE MUSIC) 4 00:00:21,027 --> 00:00:23,111 ♪ Om... 5 00:00:23,136 --> 00:00:25,219 ♪ namah Shivaya. 6 00:00:25,753 --> 00:00:27,836 (GENTLE FLUTE MUSIC) 7 00:00:29,136 --> 00:00:31,219 ♪ Om... 8 00:00:32,495 --> 00:00:34,578 ♪ namah Shivaya. 9 00:00:34,867 --> 00:00:36,950 (PENSIVE SITAR MUSIC) 10 00:00:38,117 --> 00:00:40,200 ♪ Om... 11 00:00:41,317 --> 00:00:43,400 ♪ namah Shivaya. ♪ 12 00:00:46,004 --> 00:00:48,798 What an incredible journey we were on. 13 00:00:48,823 --> 00:00:51,240 India was flowing by. 14 00:00:51,803 --> 00:00:53,732 We were halfway through the journey. 15 00:00:53,757 --> 00:00:57,007 The Himalayas were still out in front. 16 00:00:57,237 --> 00:00:59,390 But what had happened in the past 17 00:00:59,415 --> 00:01:02,232 was still very heavily upon our hearts. 18 00:01:02,257 --> 00:01:04,348 (HAUNTING FLUTE MUSIC) 19 00:01:04,373 --> 00:01:05,562 (FLAMES CRACKLE) 20 00:01:05,587 --> 00:01:06,968 (RISING MUSIC) 21 00:01:08,426 --> 00:01:11,551 And in a more distant past, two big moments 22 00:01:11,576 --> 00:01:14,075 really had combined to bring us here. 23 00:01:14,100 --> 00:01:16,184 (DRAMATIC MUSIC) 24 00:01:20,290 --> 00:01:22,123 (MUSIC SWELLS) 25 00:01:22,888 --> 00:01:27,153 In 1953, Mt Everest was first climbed by Tenzing Norgay 26 00:01:27,178 --> 00:01:29,887 and my father, Edmund Hillary. 27 00:01:31,540 --> 00:01:34,303 In that same year, in New Zealand, 28 00:01:34,366 --> 00:01:37,825 a radical new kind of boat was invented - 29 00:01:38,379 --> 00:01:41,879 the jet boat - a boat that blasts up rapids, 30 00:01:41,904 --> 00:01:45,324 propelled and steered simply by a jet of water. 31 00:01:45,349 --> 00:01:47,432 (ENGINE ROARS) 32 00:01:49,650 --> 00:01:51,900 In these boats, my father, you know, 33 00:01:51,925 --> 00:01:54,254 climber of the Himalayas' greatest mountain, 34 00:01:54,279 --> 00:01:56,652 would also try to be the first to climb 35 00:01:56,677 --> 00:02:00,105 the Himalayas' greatest river, the Ganges. 36 00:02:00,448 --> 00:02:02,531 (RISING MUSIC) 37 00:02:02,556 --> 00:02:04,638 (DRAMATIC MUSIC) 38 00:02:04,851 --> 00:02:06,934 (ENGINE ROARS) 39 00:02:12,864 --> 00:02:14,948 (BELL RINGS) 40 00:02:15,624 --> 00:02:18,827 (SOLEMN CHANTING) 41 00:02:20,313 --> 00:02:22,014 For my father and I, though, 42 00:02:22,039 --> 00:02:24,705 the journey would be deeply personal - 43 00:02:24,734 --> 00:02:27,359 for the turbulence of the rapids we faced 44 00:02:27,359 --> 00:02:31,640 would be nothing to the turbulence of our recent past. 45 00:02:31,665 --> 00:02:34,477 You know, really, for my father and for me, 46 00:02:34,502 --> 00:02:36,290 we were on a pilgrimage - 47 00:02:36,290 --> 00:02:39,503 not just a Hindu pilgrimage up the river, 48 00:02:39,528 --> 00:02:41,620 but one of, uh, 49 00:02:41,645 --> 00:02:46,832 trying to deal with the losses of my mother and sister. 50 00:02:46,857 --> 00:02:49,024 (POIGNANT CHORAL MUSIC) 51 00:02:51,329 --> 00:02:53,870 And on this journey, on his final climb, 52 00:02:53,870 --> 00:02:57,829 my father, too, would stare death in the face. 53 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,162 I'd lost my mother and sister. 54 00:03:01,162 --> 00:03:05,037 Here I was high in the Himalayas again. 55 00:03:05,564 --> 00:03:08,689 Was I about to lose my father as well? 56 00:03:08,714 --> 00:03:10,798 (BREATHES HEAVILY) 57 00:03:10,823 --> 00:03:12,906 (SOLEMN MUSIC) 58 00:03:16,233 --> 00:03:18,316 (ENGINE ROARS) 59 00:03:20,108 --> 00:03:21,384 (LAUGHTER) 60 00:03:21,409 --> 00:03:23,492 (UPBEAT MUSIC) 61 00:03:24,649 --> 00:03:26,753 And yet, for the rest of his life, 62 00:03:26,778 --> 00:03:29,082 Dad always said that this was the best, 63 00:03:29,107 --> 00:03:32,815 the most memorable expedition of them all - 64 00:03:34,009 --> 00:03:37,342 this journey from the ocean to the sky. 65 00:03:37,367 --> 00:03:40,649 (UPLIFTING MUSIC) 66 00:03:53,671 --> 00:03:55,754 (FANFARE) 67 00:03:55,779 --> 00:03:57,977 (EXCITING ORCHESTRAL MUSIC) 68 00:03:59,421 --> 00:04:01,504 Oh blast! 69 00:04:02,629 --> 00:04:06,545 ANNOUNCER: 'These are River Jets from Hamilton. 70 00:04:06,570 --> 00:04:09,779 They go where no other boats will go, 71 00:04:10,063 --> 00:04:13,397 planing in a scant 4 inches of water.' 72 00:04:13,397 --> 00:04:15,480 (ENGINE RUMBLES) 73 00:04:17,288 --> 00:04:20,246 Jetboats were invented by my granddad, 74 00:04:20,271 --> 00:04:23,397 Bill Hamilton, back in 1953. 75 00:04:24,105 --> 00:04:26,772 He wanted to get up into the back-country waters 76 00:04:26,814 --> 00:04:29,816 of New Zealand and explore the rivers there, 77 00:04:29,824 --> 00:04:33,729 and he did that with his son, Jon Hamilton, my father. 78 00:04:33,768 --> 00:04:38,768 Together they explored many of the rivers in New Zealand. 79 00:04:38,833 --> 00:04:40,500 ANNOUNCER: 'As those who followed motor racing 80 00:04:40,500 --> 00:04:44,292 in the '20s will know, speed is nothing new to Bill Hamilton. 81 00:04:44,292 --> 00:04:46,875 But speeding under power down a rapid river, 82 00:04:46,875 --> 00:04:49,250 where it has just cut a new channel through willows, 83 00:04:49,250 --> 00:04:51,875 is something new to anybody. 84 00:04:51,941 --> 00:04:54,709 On turns, the boat banks correctly. 85 00:04:54,741 --> 00:04:58,366 Now upstream again. With plenty of power, agile steering 86 00:04:58,366 --> 00:05:00,324 and no propeller to be fouled, 87 00:05:00,324 --> 00:05:02,781 this is an invention that can open up new holiday territory 88 00:05:03,116 --> 00:05:07,157 along many a hitherto un-navigable torrent.' 89 00:05:07,157 --> 00:05:09,241 (ENGINE ROARS) 90 00:05:11,116 --> 00:05:13,282 (EXCITING VIOLIN MUSIC) 91 00:05:17,866 --> 00:05:20,366 (EXCITING MUSIC CONTINUES) 92 00:05:21,823 --> 00:05:24,698 'At 20 knots, channels must be spotted quickly. 93 00:05:24,698 --> 00:05:26,407 Power comes from a motorcar engine 94 00:05:26,407 --> 00:05:31,490 driving the special centrifugal pump, which feeds the jet.' 95 00:05:31,490 --> 00:05:33,990 (EXCITING MUSIC CONTINUES) 96 00:05:37,318 --> 00:05:40,151 'And so there he goes against more currents than one - 97 00:05:40,151 --> 00:05:42,818 an outstanding industrialist and inventor 98 00:05:42,818 --> 00:05:45,526 whose choice it is to live far from the cities, 99 00:05:45,526 --> 00:05:47,609 through the snowy winters and dry summers 100 00:05:47,609 --> 00:05:50,026 of the remote Mackenzie plains.' 101 00:05:50,026 --> 00:05:52,109 (LAUGHTER) 102 00:05:52,134 --> 00:05:54,890 (GRAVEL GRATES) 103 00:05:59,266 --> 00:06:02,057 My dad became a very good driver, 104 00:06:02,283 --> 00:06:06,116 and in 1960, he led an expedition to America, 105 00:06:06,318 --> 00:06:08,776 and they ran up through the Grand Canyon 106 00:06:08,776 --> 00:06:12,526 on the Colorado River, through the big rapids there - 107 00:06:12,526 --> 00:06:14,936 the only time it has ever been done. 108 00:06:14,961 --> 00:06:16,819 (DRAMATIC MUSIC) 109 00:06:16,844 --> 00:06:18,927 (ENGINE ROARS) 110 00:06:23,514 --> 00:06:26,949 (INTENSE MUSIC) 111 00:06:38,168 --> 00:06:41,627 ANNOUNCER: 'The first boat ever is over the lip of Vulcan. 112 00:06:41,627 --> 00:06:43,127 A rooster tail of jetboat victory 113 00:06:43,127 --> 00:06:46,043 was never more proudly thrown.' 114 00:06:47,189 --> 00:06:48,786 Ed got very interested in Jetboats, 115 00:06:48,811 --> 00:06:52,082 cos he was always interested in technological stuff. 116 00:06:52,107 --> 00:06:53,191 He liked- 117 00:06:53,216 --> 00:06:55,982 For example, he liked taking tractors to the South Pole, 118 00:06:56,007 --> 00:06:58,137 for example, as opposed to taking dogs. 119 00:06:58,153 --> 00:07:01,320 And when he came across Jetboats in the South Island, 120 00:07:01,328 --> 00:07:02,578 He suddenly thought, 121 00:07:02,578 --> 00:07:04,762 'Yes, I could use these in Nepal,' 122 00:07:04,787 --> 00:07:08,811 and he had this idea that he could create a transport network 123 00:07:08,836 --> 00:07:13,224 of Jetboats running from India up to Kathmandu. 124 00:07:14,192 --> 00:07:16,775 So some years before his Ganges expedition, 125 00:07:16,775 --> 00:07:19,359 he took two Jetboats to Nepal - 126 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,472 one driven by the inventor's son, Jon, 127 00:07:22,519 --> 00:07:26,171 and the other driven by an old climbing friend, Jim Wilson. 128 00:07:26,925 --> 00:07:30,064 Well, Ed was, above all, an adventurer. 129 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,455 And he just loved having adventures 130 00:07:31,455 --> 00:07:33,914 with his close friends. 131 00:07:33,914 --> 00:07:36,830 And I think he thought that since he'd driven tractors 132 00:07:36,830 --> 00:07:39,830 to the South Pole with his friends, 133 00:07:39,838 --> 00:07:42,016 so we could drive Jetboats. 134 00:07:42,032 --> 00:07:44,991 And he came up with the idea of trying to go 135 00:07:44,991 --> 00:07:50,199 up the Sun Kosi River, from the Indian border, to Kathmandu. 136 00:07:50,479 --> 00:07:53,229 He said that this might be a very good form of transport, 137 00:07:53,229 --> 00:07:54,739 local transport. 138 00:07:54,763 --> 00:07:57,263 I suspect that was an excuse for an adventure, 139 00:07:57,263 --> 00:07:59,519 but I think he was semi-serious about it. 140 00:08:00,649 --> 00:08:02,733 We took Jon Hamilton as chief driver, of course - 141 00:08:02,733 --> 00:08:04,890 the best jetboat driver in the world. 142 00:08:04,913 --> 00:08:06,788 But he decided that one of his mates should drive 143 00:08:06,788 --> 00:08:11,320 the second boat, and for various reasons, the lot fell to me, 144 00:08:11,453 --> 00:08:13,953 and I duly rewarded him for this privilege 145 00:08:13,978 --> 00:08:17,080 by sinking one of the Jetboats, halving his fleet. 146 00:08:17,174 --> 00:08:19,452 (LAUGHS) Yes. 147 00:08:20,928 --> 00:08:24,178 It was flat water for the first kilometer, 148 00:08:24,178 --> 00:08:26,053 and then it turned into rapids, 149 00:08:26,053 --> 00:08:28,387 and they became more and more violent, the rapids. 150 00:08:28,387 --> 00:08:30,779 And the boats were having to go backwards and forwards. 151 00:08:30,998 --> 00:08:32,873 It was fairly lively water, 152 00:08:32,873 --> 00:08:35,331 and I hadn't had much experience at all. 153 00:08:35,331 --> 00:08:38,698 And we came to two really big standing waves 154 00:08:38,770 --> 00:08:42,145 with a very, very big dip between them. 155 00:08:42,186 --> 00:08:46,311 Jon, of course, got to the top and instantly knew what to do 156 00:08:46,311 --> 00:08:49,064 and gunned the boat and leapt the gap. 157 00:08:49,138 --> 00:08:53,597 Jetboats can hover motionless to the bank on fast enough water. 158 00:08:53,597 --> 00:08:56,296 I'd go into the habit of coming to the top of the wave 159 00:08:56,335 --> 00:08:57,585 and pausing to have a look around 160 00:08:57,585 --> 00:08:59,106 to see what I might do next. 161 00:08:59,434 --> 00:09:02,809 And this was fatal, because I didn't have enough momentum. 162 00:09:02,809 --> 00:09:06,288 When I gunned the boat, its bow pointed down into the dip, 163 00:09:06,429 --> 00:09:09,240 and I drove it straight into the next wave. 164 00:09:09,819 --> 00:09:13,069 I was in the front boat, driven by Jon Hamilton, 165 00:09:13,069 --> 00:09:16,270 and Jon was saying, 'I hope Jim is all right.' 166 00:09:16,301 --> 00:09:20,884 I kept looking behind me, and I said, 'They're sinking!' 167 00:09:20,909 --> 00:09:22,374 And the boat disappeared. 168 00:09:22,399 --> 00:09:24,993 (MENACING MUSIC) 169 00:09:28,677 --> 00:09:30,719 So I crawled out of the water 170 00:09:30,719 --> 00:09:33,886 and went up the bank to apologise to Ed. 171 00:09:33,886 --> 00:09:37,157 But one of the many things I love about Ed is that 172 00:09:37,180 --> 00:09:41,222 as long as he thinks that you've done your best, 173 00:09:41,235 --> 00:09:42,568 he'll never blame you. 174 00:09:42,568 --> 00:09:46,417 And all he said was, 'C'est la vie,' French for, 'That's life.' 175 00:09:46,810 --> 00:09:49,977 Now, I'd halved his fleet, but he forgave me just like that, 176 00:09:49,977 --> 00:09:52,185 and being Ed, simply reorganized, 177 00:09:52,185 --> 00:09:54,227 and we did the rest of the trip up the Sun Kosi 178 00:09:54,227 --> 00:09:56,320 with just the one boat. 179 00:09:57,001 --> 00:10:00,292 The idea came to Ed that if a tributary of the Ganges, 180 00:10:00,292 --> 00:10:03,634 of Mother Ganga, had given us such excitement, 181 00:10:03,650 --> 00:10:06,401 how would it be to drive Jetboats up the whole length 182 00:10:06,408 --> 00:10:09,658 of the Holy River? We'd almost be making a pilgrimage, 183 00:10:09,658 --> 00:10:13,741 and we'd be going through the land we'd all grown to love. 184 00:10:13,741 --> 00:10:16,866 And so the Ocean to Sky trip was born. 185 00:10:19,952 --> 00:10:22,202 This time, there would be three boats. 186 00:10:22,202 --> 00:10:24,927 Jon Hamilton again would be the chief driver. 187 00:10:24,958 --> 00:10:28,625 Mike, his son, the driver of the second boat. 188 00:10:28,625 --> 00:10:32,622 And Ed, ever forgiving, chose me to be the third driver - 189 00:10:32,638 --> 00:10:34,187 the driver of the third boat. 190 00:10:34,351 --> 00:10:36,685 And also, rather tongue in cheek, 191 00:10:36,685 --> 00:10:40,865 since I had a PhD in Hinduism from an Indian university, 192 00:10:40,873 --> 00:10:44,023 he appointed me spiritual adviser to the expedition. 193 00:10:49,116 --> 00:10:53,366 My first piece of advice as so-called spiritual adviser 194 00:10:53,366 --> 00:10:56,631 was that we had to start the trip at Ganga Sagar - 195 00:10:56,654 --> 00:10:59,321 where the Ganga meets Sagar, the sea. 196 00:10:59,346 --> 00:11:02,137 This is the divinely sanctioned starting point 197 00:11:02,137 --> 00:11:04,721 for pilgrimage up the Ganges. 198 00:11:04,762 --> 00:11:06,304 And to go on pilgrimage in India, 199 00:11:06,304 --> 00:11:09,627 you must have a religious blessing before you start. 200 00:11:09,643 --> 00:11:14,350 Fortunately, there was a very charming pujari - Hindu priest - 201 00:11:14,373 --> 00:11:18,831 and he willingly agreed to come and bless our boats. 202 00:11:20,648 --> 00:11:21,731 As an additional safeguard 203 00:11:21,731 --> 00:11:24,449 against my lack of driving skill, yeah,... 204 00:11:26,512 --> 00:11:28,553 he put the tika on the foreheads 205 00:11:28,578 --> 00:11:30,961 of all the members of the expedition. 206 00:11:32,516 --> 00:11:35,766 But it gave me a great feeling of well-being to be blessed 207 00:11:35,766 --> 00:11:37,996 by this wonderful little Hindu pujari. 208 00:11:38,019 --> 00:11:39,603 And then he took a wee while to decide 209 00:11:39,603 --> 00:11:42,228 what was the forehead of a jetboat. 210 00:11:42,228 --> 00:11:44,311 I think he decided the bow, 211 00:11:44,311 --> 00:11:45,809 but it might have been the windscreen. 212 00:11:45,990 --> 00:11:48,657 But he did a wonderful puja for us. 213 00:11:48,657 --> 00:11:52,183 I thought he behaved as if he was blessing Jetboats every day. 214 00:11:52,214 --> 00:11:55,505 And he just put it on the nose of the jetboat, 215 00:11:55,530 --> 00:11:58,072 and we took off into the surf. 216 00:11:58,197 --> 00:12:00,364 (UPBEAT CARNATIC MUSIC) 217 00:12:03,624 --> 00:12:05,166 Jon Hamilton, 218 00:12:05,166 --> 00:12:08,291 as the expert on Jetboats, hated... 219 00:12:09,632 --> 00:12:11,715 the sea for jet boating, 220 00:12:12,548 --> 00:12:15,704 and so the waves were getting bigger and bigger. 221 00:12:16,009 --> 00:12:20,593 I'd never driven in surf before, and I hit a huge wave. 222 00:12:22,110 --> 00:12:26,568 And there was a terribly expensive noise at the back 223 00:12:27,735 --> 00:12:30,776 as the engine leapt off its mounts. 224 00:12:33,426 --> 00:12:36,176 Ed, who never misses a chance to tease, said, 225 00:12:36,176 --> 00:12:38,296 'So much for your puja, Jim!' 226 00:12:38,406 --> 00:12:40,406 I snapped back at him, 'If it wasn't for the puja, 227 00:12:40,406 --> 00:12:43,271 'we wouldn't have got past the first wave!' 228 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,776 (LAUGHS) To add to the challenge, 229 00:12:47,776 --> 00:12:50,151 Ed had a young film crew - us! 230 00:12:50,860 --> 00:12:53,526 Waka and I were beside ourselves with excitement 231 00:12:53,526 --> 00:12:55,651 to be on this magic carpet ride 232 00:12:55,676 --> 00:12:58,788 with our hero, Ed Hillary, and his friends - 233 00:12:59,390 --> 00:13:01,098 Sherpa friends, 234 00:13:01,123 --> 00:13:03,082 Indian friends, 235 00:13:03,082 --> 00:13:06,303 mountaineers like Graeme Dingle and Murray Jones - 236 00:13:06,475 --> 00:13:08,823 biding their time until the river turned to ice. 237 00:13:08,848 --> 00:13:11,139 (UPBEAT MUSIC CONTINUES) 238 00:13:14,614 --> 00:13:17,514 And Ed's son, Peter, was with us too. 239 00:13:18,311 --> 00:13:20,478 The trip was actually planned with my mother, 240 00:13:20,478 --> 00:13:23,270 and I think they felt it would be this wonderful, 241 00:13:23,270 --> 00:13:27,320 expeditionary adventure that they could share together. 242 00:13:29,957 --> 00:13:31,776 Look, I couldn't believe my luck. 243 00:13:31,808 --> 00:13:34,308 I mean, obviously, it was my father who was leading it, 244 00:13:34,308 --> 00:13:37,689 and was a special time for the Hillary family. 245 00:13:37,710 --> 00:13:42,000 My mother and sister had recently died, and in some ways, 246 00:13:42,039 --> 00:13:45,400 this is exactly what Dad and I needed. 247 00:13:45,425 --> 00:13:48,186 (POIGNANT MUSIC) 248 00:13:52,790 --> 00:13:55,706 The great tragedy of Ed's life was the death of his wife, 249 00:13:55,706 --> 00:14:00,148 Louise, and his youngest daughter, Belinda, in 1975. 250 00:14:00,172 --> 00:14:04,797 And he blamed himself terribly for it, because he had arranged 251 00:14:04,822 --> 00:14:07,655 that the whole family would live in Nepal for a year, 252 00:14:07,655 --> 00:14:11,738 and they would fly backwards and forwards into the Himalayas. 253 00:14:15,658 --> 00:14:17,120 And on this occasion, 254 00:14:17,136 --> 00:14:20,677 the pilot had not done his proper security checks. 255 00:14:21,148 --> 00:14:23,357 The flaps weren't working. He took off, 256 00:14:23,357 --> 00:14:27,857 and the plane was unflyable, and it just suddenly slewed off 257 00:14:27,898 --> 00:14:29,357 and drove straight into the ground 258 00:14:29,357 --> 00:14:31,224 and killed everybody onboard. 259 00:14:31,249 --> 00:14:33,333 (HAUNTING VOCAL MUSIC) 260 00:14:38,893 --> 00:14:40,976 (POIGNANT MUSIC) 261 00:14:49,368 --> 00:14:51,451 And Ed was shattered. 262 00:14:52,118 --> 00:14:54,618 (POIGNANT MUSIC CONTINUES) 263 00:14:59,273 --> 00:15:00,709 He blamed himself. 264 00:15:00,709 --> 00:15:03,819 It was on one of his hospital-building expeditions. 265 00:15:07,373 --> 00:15:09,540 (POIGNANT CHORAL MUSIC) 266 00:15:15,893 --> 00:15:17,850 I think, in Ed's mind, it was not just, 267 00:15:17,967 --> 00:15:20,675 'Here's another adventure to get my teeth into,' 268 00:15:20,675 --> 00:15:24,634 but he may have felt that Louise was quietly saying in his ear, 269 00:15:24,634 --> 00:15:26,872 'Look, just go ahead and do it.' 270 00:15:27,940 --> 00:15:31,273 And we thought that even the planning of the expedition 271 00:15:31,305 --> 00:15:35,888 started to lift Ed out of his terrible depression... 272 00:15:36,487 --> 00:15:41,779 and that the trip itself might restore to us the old, happy Ed. 273 00:15:44,402 --> 00:15:46,486 (RISING MUSIC) 274 00:15:54,734 --> 00:15:56,818 (MUSIC SWELLS) 275 00:16:05,361 --> 00:16:07,444 (MUSIC QUIETENS) 276 00:16:13,694 --> 00:16:16,402 (INDISTINCT, LIVELY CHATTER) 277 00:16:19,652 --> 00:16:22,944 Our first adventure was to explore the Sundarbans, 278 00:16:22,944 --> 00:16:26,319 which is a huge area full of mangroves. 279 00:16:26,463 --> 00:16:29,879 Imagine you're in this vast mangrove swamp 280 00:16:29,879 --> 00:16:32,707 that is the size of a small country. 281 00:16:32,903 --> 00:16:37,403 And amongst all of this, amazingly, are crocodiles, 282 00:16:37,403 --> 00:16:40,069 and most incredibly, tigers. 283 00:16:40,298 --> 00:16:43,256 And the stories we heard about them were quite alarming. 284 00:16:43,256 --> 00:16:46,298 They could leap 20 or more feet from the bank, 285 00:16:46,298 --> 00:16:49,089 and they'd developed the charming habit of doing so 286 00:16:49,089 --> 00:16:52,668 and hoicking fishermen out of their boats and eating them. 287 00:16:52,691 --> 00:16:54,441 They've adapted to living there. 288 00:16:54,441 --> 00:16:57,650 I mean, from habitat loss further up in Bengal, 289 00:16:57,650 --> 00:17:00,108 they've retreated into the mangrove swamps. 290 00:17:00,108 --> 00:17:04,358 They can drink brackish water, eat fish and, occasionally, 291 00:17:04,358 --> 00:17:05,877 the odd fisherman. 292 00:17:05,900 --> 00:17:09,567 Jon started to show off the- how the boat could ride across 293 00:17:09,567 --> 00:17:12,567 a muddy promontory, travel across mud for 30m, 294 00:17:12,567 --> 00:17:14,775 and I don't know what a tiger would have thought of that, 295 00:17:14,775 --> 00:17:17,214 had he seen it. 296 00:17:17,238 --> 00:17:22,696 We felt that any self-respecting tiger, once it saw our antics, 297 00:17:23,029 --> 00:17:24,904 would refrain from eating us 298 00:17:24,904 --> 00:17:28,516 for fear of contracting contagious insanity. 299 00:17:29,664 --> 00:17:32,456 But we did do some- probably fairly silly things, 300 00:17:32,481 --> 00:17:35,106 and we did worry the Indian Forest Service people 301 00:17:35,106 --> 00:17:40,314 who were with us and who were armed with very ancient rifles - 302 00:17:40,775 --> 00:17:42,650 rifles we thought were probably rejected 303 00:17:42,650 --> 00:17:45,441 by Queen Victoria's bodyguard. 304 00:17:45,742 --> 00:17:47,617 And he looked at me and he said, 305 00:17:47,617 --> 00:17:53,960 'Oh! If Sir Hillary gets eaten by a tiger, I will lose my job.' 306 00:17:54,312 --> 00:17:56,062 But nevertheless, had a tiger decided 307 00:17:56,062 --> 00:17:58,854 that he was really hungry, I suppose he could have jumped 308 00:17:58,854 --> 00:18:01,187 inside a boat without any trouble and eaten 309 00:18:01,187 --> 00:18:02,393 whichever one he wanted to. 310 00:18:02,722 --> 00:18:05,186 Who would it have been? Would it have been, sort of, 311 00:18:05,211 --> 00:18:07,100 Ed, who was older, or would it have been one of 312 00:18:07,125 --> 00:18:09,065 the younger people like Waka? 313 00:18:09,940 --> 00:18:12,815 The local village- villagers would never go up 314 00:18:12,815 --> 00:18:16,525 these side channels, because the tigers would possibly leap 315 00:18:16,557 --> 00:18:18,640 from the canopy and... 316 00:18:19,257 --> 00:18:21,340 take people. 317 00:18:21,610 --> 00:18:25,277 And when I look back on it now, it was extremely gung-ho. 318 00:18:25,277 --> 00:18:29,402 You know, the esprit de corps buoyed us on, and we just felt, 319 00:18:29,402 --> 00:18:30,985 ' What could possibly go wrong?' 320 00:18:30,985 --> 00:18:33,360 Well, of course, everything could have gone wrong. 321 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:35,403 The tides would suddenly rush out. 322 00:18:35,443 --> 00:18:38,638 We had difficulty getting out of some of these narrow streams. 323 00:18:38,661 --> 00:18:40,744 (EASYGOING MUSIC) 324 00:18:46,344 --> 00:18:48,427 (MUSIC RISES) 325 00:18:54,302 --> 00:18:56,386 (ADVENTUROUS MUSIC) 326 00:19:00,667 --> 00:19:05,167 We went up these side channels, of course, on a falling tide, 327 00:19:05,167 --> 00:19:08,292 and so we just about got landlocked. 328 00:19:08,891 --> 00:19:10,974 (BIRDS SQUAWK) 329 00:19:11,410 --> 00:19:12,993 It's too muddy. Over this way. 330 00:19:12,993 --> 00:19:15,660 We were very keen to see a tiger; 331 00:19:15,660 --> 00:19:17,792 not quite so keen to be eaten by one. 332 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,883 (LAUGHTER, CHATTER) 333 00:19:21,750 --> 00:19:23,541 Has anyone got a gun? 334 00:19:23,541 --> 00:19:24,625 LAUGHS: Oh! 335 00:19:24,625 --> 00:19:26,916 Oh, hey, I'm disappearing. Hang on! 336 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,719 (LAUGHTER) 337 00:19:29,148 --> 00:19:30,172 Oh! 338 00:19:30,172 --> 00:19:32,047 - Hold on. - Oh. 339 00:19:32,047 --> 00:19:33,881 It was a great idea coming up this creek (!) 340 00:19:33,881 --> 00:19:35,753 - Come on! - (ALL STRAIN, GROAN) 341 00:19:35,768 --> 00:19:38,184 Push! 342 00:19:38,226 --> 00:19:40,392 And suddenly someone pointed out 343 00:19:40,401 --> 00:19:42,651 that there was what looked like a coconut 344 00:19:42,651 --> 00:19:45,693 moving strongly across the current. 345 00:19:45,693 --> 00:19:46,693 (ENGINE ROARS) 346 00:19:46,693 --> 00:19:48,985 I grabbed my camera, and we raced towards this thing 347 00:19:48,985 --> 00:19:52,193 in the water, and soon we could see that it had stripes! 348 00:19:52,414 --> 00:19:55,705 And we were quite close before we saw that it was a tiger, 349 00:19:55,705 --> 00:19:59,248 later identified as a female, swimming across the river. 350 00:19:59,412 --> 00:20:03,329 And, uh, (LAUGHS) shouts were trying to encourage Mike and me 351 00:20:03,329 --> 00:20:07,745 to get between the tiger and the shore and cut it off. 352 00:20:07,887 --> 00:20:09,637 A very severe attack of cowardice 353 00:20:09,637 --> 00:20:13,137 prevented either Mike or I agreeing to this. 354 00:20:13,137 --> 00:20:16,679 But we did come cautiously behind the tiger as it went over 355 00:20:16,679 --> 00:20:20,012 and pulled itself up on to the bank, covered in mud, 356 00:20:20,012 --> 00:20:23,481 and almost immediately disappeared into the mangroves. 357 00:20:23,825 --> 00:20:26,825 And we thought that was it, but then suddenly we heard 358 00:20:26,825 --> 00:20:29,575 an amazingly magnificent roar 359 00:20:29,575 --> 00:20:31,450 that just sent shivers down our spine. 360 00:20:31,450 --> 00:20:33,474 (ROAR ECHOES) 361 00:20:33,552 --> 00:20:35,677 And out came striding... 362 00:20:36,427 --> 00:20:39,640 this huge male tiger, 363 00:20:40,006 --> 00:20:43,679 and it was rippling muscles. 364 00:20:44,236 --> 00:20:46,685 And I remember when... 365 00:20:46,710 --> 00:20:48,794 we gave the engine 366 00:20:49,127 --> 00:20:50,794 a bit of a roar, 367 00:20:50,794 --> 00:20:56,002 the tiger responded immediately with an even greater roar. 368 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,273 (ROAR RUMBLES, ECHOES) 369 00:20:59,405 --> 00:21:05,172 And I realised, watching this animal, that if it decided 370 00:21:05,197 --> 00:21:08,077 it was going to have you, it was going to have you. 371 00:21:08,108 --> 00:21:12,441 Because we could see how far the bloody thing could jump. 372 00:21:12,441 --> 00:21:14,983 It was an impressive athlete. 373 00:21:16,088 --> 00:21:17,171 And we were extremely lucky, 374 00:21:17,171 --> 00:21:18,879 because one of the Forest Service people 375 00:21:18,879 --> 00:21:21,640 who'd been working in the area for, I think, 15 years, 376 00:21:21,789 --> 00:21:23,872 had never seen a tiger. 377 00:21:23,872 --> 00:21:25,622 So of course, as spiritual adviser, 378 00:21:25,622 --> 00:21:29,497 I explained to everybody that this was because of the puja 379 00:21:29,497 --> 00:21:32,592 we had had before we left Ganga Sagar. 380 00:21:32,623 --> 00:21:34,706 (ENGINE ROARS) 381 00:21:34,731 --> 00:21:36,773 (EXCITING MUSIC) 382 00:21:40,065 --> 00:21:43,731 We roared in our Jetboats into the great city of Kolkata, 383 00:21:43,731 --> 00:21:45,481 under the Howrah Bridge, 384 00:21:45,481 --> 00:21:50,065 and the crowds were absolutely mind-boggling. 385 00:21:50,674 --> 00:21:54,258 We believed we waved at a population of people 386 00:21:54,258 --> 00:21:56,924 that exceeded that of all of New Zealand. 387 00:21:56,924 --> 00:21:59,049 Three or four million people, 388 00:21:59,049 --> 00:22:03,064 lining the banks, in the trees, up on buildings and shrines, 389 00:22:03,088 --> 00:22:05,171 all of them waving at us, 390 00:22:05,290 --> 00:22:08,805 all there to get a glimpse of the amazing Jetboats 391 00:22:08,844 --> 00:22:13,219 and my father, you know, the climber of Mt Everest. 392 00:22:13,219 --> 00:22:16,011 (EXCITED CHATTER, CLAMORING) 393 00:22:16,153 --> 00:22:19,195 Ed was widely known throughout India. 394 00:22:19,195 --> 00:22:22,111 And here was a history book figure 395 00:22:22,111 --> 00:22:25,549 suddenly coming to life, and people flocked to see him. 396 00:22:25,557 --> 00:22:27,641 (HORN BELLOWS) 397 00:22:28,183 --> 00:22:31,516 The children were a total wonder to us - 398 00:22:33,016 --> 00:22:36,312 totally inquisitive faces 399 00:22:36,806 --> 00:22:40,973 looking at people they had been told were great, 400 00:22:41,256 --> 00:22:46,590 particularly Ed Hillary, the first person to climb Everest; 401 00:22:47,003 --> 00:22:52,360 looking at boats that were, to them, rockets, 402 00:22:52,837 --> 00:22:56,504 and coming up to us and saying things like, 403 00:22:57,004 --> 00:23:00,435 'Are you the same men that went to the moon?' 404 00:23:00,521 --> 00:23:05,437 The whole thing was a cocktail which made your head spin. 405 00:23:09,088 --> 00:23:12,296 Well, I was just a humble boy from rural New Zealand, 406 00:23:12,296 --> 00:23:17,400 you know, and I had never ever before expected crowds 407 00:23:17,448 --> 00:23:19,394 and adulation like we were given. 408 00:23:19,511 --> 00:23:21,803 And a lot of people, to be honest, 409 00:23:21,803 --> 00:23:24,605 didn't quite understand what Jetboats were. 410 00:23:24,675 --> 00:23:26,675 They knew of jet planes, 411 00:23:26,675 --> 00:23:29,848 and they sort of thought we were flying up the river. 412 00:23:30,813 --> 00:23:32,855 When you go mountaineering, you know you're not going to see 413 00:23:32,855 --> 00:23:35,521 crowds all over the mountain watching you climbing. 414 00:23:35,521 --> 00:23:37,188 But here we were on what we thought 415 00:23:37,188 --> 00:23:41,688 was a solitary adventure, but we were actually being joined 416 00:23:41,688 --> 00:23:45,368 by many millions of Indians as we went up the river. 417 00:23:46,447 --> 00:23:51,072 And when Indians climbed Everest in '65, that was perhaps 418 00:23:51,072 --> 00:23:53,777 the biggest expedition in India in those days. 419 00:23:53,992 --> 00:23:56,367 (LIVELY, UPLIFTING MUSIC) 420 00:24:02,050 --> 00:24:06,201 But as a total impact on the population of the country, 421 00:24:06,201 --> 00:24:08,284 the way the people came, 422 00:24:08,742 --> 00:24:12,409 after days and days of traveling on foot, 423 00:24:12,826 --> 00:24:16,034 to have a look at these funny machines 424 00:24:16,076 --> 00:24:18,576 going opposite the current, 425 00:24:18,675 --> 00:24:22,800 and I think the total impact on the nation was perhaps 426 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,758 the biggest and most publicized expeditions 427 00:24:27,199 --> 00:24:29,615 in the history of the world. 428 00:24:29,615 --> 00:24:32,282 (CELEBRATORY MARCHING MUSIC) 429 00:24:36,928 --> 00:24:39,011 This textbook figure, 430 00:24:39,636 --> 00:24:41,178 for all intents and purposes, 431 00:24:41,178 --> 00:24:45,136 was making a holy pilgrimage up Mother Ganga. 432 00:24:45,136 --> 00:24:47,678 (MARCHING MUSIC CONTINUES) 433 00:24:47,702 --> 00:24:50,952 I was particularly worried, as spiritual adviser. 434 00:24:50,952 --> 00:24:55,183 I thought we could be resented by roaring up the Holy River 435 00:24:55,198 --> 00:24:59,073 in polluting, noisy, mechanical craft. 436 00:24:59,781 --> 00:25:04,477 But that was dispelled. I didn't feel the slightest hint of that. 437 00:25:04,532 --> 00:25:06,615 (ENGINE RUMBLES) 438 00:25:07,695 --> 00:25:09,903 My feeling is that all the Indian crowds 439 00:25:09,903 --> 00:25:12,361 who came to see us genuinely felt 440 00:25:12,361 --> 00:25:14,488 that we were making a pilgrimage. 441 00:25:14,753 --> 00:25:20,044 We were starting to realise through these sort of encounters 442 00:25:20,072 --> 00:25:25,513 that people really regarded this expedition 443 00:25:25,521 --> 00:25:27,855 as something very special, 444 00:25:28,715 --> 00:25:30,508 almost sacred, 445 00:25:30,524 --> 00:25:33,700 and people wanted to come with us. 446 00:25:35,383 --> 00:25:37,341 And one young man, a very enterprising young man, 447 00:25:37,341 --> 00:25:40,175 was so keen, that he converted his bike 448 00:25:40,175 --> 00:25:43,258 into an amphibious craft and came pedaling out 449 00:25:43,258 --> 00:25:45,136 over the water. 450 00:25:52,576 --> 00:25:54,660 (ENGINE REVS SOFTLY) 451 00:25:54,660 --> 00:25:57,035 (SERENE, EXPECTANT MUSIC) 452 00:25:57,133 --> 00:26:00,466 Also, we were hassled for autographs. 453 00:26:00,471 --> 00:26:02,763 At first, we humbler members of the expedition 454 00:26:02,763 --> 00:26:05,555 at first took this rather flatteringly, you see. 455 00:26:05,555 --> 00:26:08,546 But after one day, we were sick of signing autographs. 456 00:26:08,562 --> 00:26:12,729 Ed never, ever turned anyone away. He was simply amazing. 457 00:26:12,729 --> 00:26:16,137 He kept his good humor as crowds pressed in upon him, 458 00:26:16,180 --> 00:26:17,969 clamoring for autographs. 459 00:26:18,549 --> 00:26:20,924 The adulation of the people was interesting, 460 00:26:20,924 --> 00:26:24,382 and Ed handled it very well, but he didn't himself think 461 00:26:24,382 --> 00:26:26,465 he was particularly special. 462 00:26:26,465 --> 00:26:29,132 He was a genuinely modest, humble man. 463 00:26:29,132 --> 00:26:31,299 (PLAYS HERALDING MUSIC) 464 00:26:36,323 --> 00:26:39,656 But the people thought he was divinity itself - 465 00:26:39,656 --> 00:26:42,156 an avatar come down to Earth - 466 00:26:42,198 --> 00:26:45,531 and there's an ancient belief in India 467 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,825 that if you are in the presence of a great person 468 00:26:48,825 --> 00:26:52,825 or of a divinity, you acquire merit simply by, 469 00:26:52,825 --> 00:26:54,575 almost osmotically, by being in their presence. 470 00:26:54,575 --> 00:26:57,801 It's called 'darshan' - having darshan of a great person. 471 00:26:57,808 --> 00:27:00,474 And I've no doubt at all that played a large role 472 00:27:00,499 --> 00:27:03,958 in the adulation of Ed and in the tremendous press of people 473 00:27:03,958 --> 00:27:08,774 trying to get close enough to acquire some of Ed's merit. 474 00:27:08,783 --> 00:27:12,199 Often they were just mere tens of thousands. 475 00:27:12,199 --> 00:27:15,629 On many occasions, they were hundreds of thousands. 476 00:27:15,629 --> 00:27:18,670 And it was overwhelming. They'd go over the hills - 477 00:27:18,670 --> 00:27:21,875 all these people all intent on coming to see 478 00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:22,920 what was happening. 479 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,253 These crowds were so dense. They'd been waiting a long time, 480 00:27:26,253 --> 00:27:30,152 sometimes three days. And of course, the crowd get restless. 481 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,660 There was this sort of tension in the air, 482 00:27:32,660 --> 00:27:37,077 and there was this really large, mustachioed man beaming away 483 00:27:37,077 --> 00:27:40,483 as he's looking across at my father, Ed Hillary. 484 00:27:40,498 --> 00:27:44,206 And there was a policeman with a 2-meter lathi stick, 485 00:27:44,206 --> 00:27:48,581 and for some reason, he hit this man with the stick. 486 00:27:49,197 --> 00:27:52,322 And of course, he went from this great beaming smile 487 00:27:52,322 --> 00:27:54,629 to looking pretty upset about this. 488 00:27:54,629 --> 00:27:57,963 And just the emotion in the crowd suddenly changed. 489 00:27:57,963 --> 00:27:59,588 I mean, it really got quite tense. 490 00:27:59,588 --> 00:28:03,004 And most of us were trying to jump back into the boats 491 00:28:03,004 --> 00:28:04,754 and get away, because we felt 492 00:28:04,754 --> 00:28:06,614 this could become very unpleasant. 493 00:28:06,622 --> 00:28:10,330 But not my father. He pushed past the policeman, 494 00:28:10,330 --> 00:28:13,247 reached out to this big guy with the mustache 495 00:28:13,247 --> 00:28:16,267 and shook him by the hand and patted him on the back. 496 00:28:16,275 --> 00:28:19,067 And a big smile came back on his face, 497 00:28:19,067 --> 00:28:22,067 and he just instantly defused that tension. 498 00:28:22,067 --> 00:28:26,085 It was- It really was vintage Ed Hillary. 499 00:28:26,545 --> 00:28:29,586 Obviously, the focus was on my father, 500 00:28:29,586 --> 00:28:33,977 the first man to climb Everest - you know, a world entity. 501 00:28:33,985 --> 00:28:38,152 But there was also an emphasis on his son, and that was me, 502 00:28:38,152 --> 00:28:41,110 and I- I didn't feel that comfortable about it, because, 503 00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:42,944 as I said, I felt, you know - 504 00:28:42,944 --> 00:28:46,533 what have I done, really, to deserve all of this attention? 505 00:28:46,533 --> 00:28:47,950 And I remember on one occasion- 506 00:28:47,950 --> 00:28:51,158 You know, I was a 22-year-old student 507 00:28:51,158 --> 00:28:54,491 going on a climbing and jet-boating expedition. 508 00:28:54,491 --> 00:28:58,825 And an elderly villager came up to me and knelt down 509 00:28:58,825 --> 00:29:02,668 and touched my feet, obviously wanting the darshan, 510 00:29:02,668 --> 00:29:06,710 but, you know, what did I have to offer as a 22-year-old? 511 00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:10,719 And I found this very, very difficult, because I thought, 512 00:29:10,734 --> 00:29:13,151 'What have I done to earn that?' 513 00:29:13,151 --> 00:29:16,484 And in many respects, I think, philosophically, I felt, 514 00:29:16,526 --> 00:29:18,068 'What has anyone done 515 00:29:18,068 --> 00:29:21,066 'to really deserve someone touching your feet?' 516 00:29:21,644 --> 00:29:23,269 For Peter Hillary, 517 00:29:23,269 --> 00:29:27,344 going along to be the son of god was very difficult. 518 00:29:27,493 --> 00:29:31,660 And Peter, on his own, was a highly successful person. 519 00:29:31,660 --> 00:29:35,337 He was a great climber - very strong climber, a good athlete. 520 00:29:35,345 --> 00:29:37,553 He had so much going for him. 521 00:29:37,553 --> 00:29:39,136 He had his pilot's license; 522 00:29:39,136 --> 00:29:41,017 he was a very accomplished mountaineer. 523 00:29:41,033 --> 00:29:45,158 And so to be sought out not for any of these things 524 00:29:45,158 --> 00:29:49,992 but simply because he was Ed's son was not a happy thing. 525 00:29:50,854 --> 00:29:54,396 Yeah, he even went through this stage in New Zealand 526 00:29:54,396 --> 00:29:56,896 where he'd call himself Peter Hill 527 00:29:56,896 --> 00:30:01,011 so people wouldn't recognise him as Ed's son, 528 00:30:01,051 --> 00:30:03,610 and so he wouldn't get favors and that 529 00:30:03,642 --> 00:30:05,432 when he was trying to get a job. 530 00:30:05,432 --> 00:30:08,974 It was particularly galling to see beautiful young women 531 00:30:08,974 --> 00:30:12,184 wanting to meet this young man. 532 00:30:12,354 --> 00:30:16,311 But I think Peter was quite disturbed by the whole thing. 533 00:30:16,444 --> 00:30:20,278 I remember, many, many pretty girls in India 534 00:30:20,528 --> 00:30:22,236 wanting our autographs. 535 00:30:22,236 --> 00:30:25,736 But unfortunately, we kept traveling all the time, 536 00:30:25,736 --> 00:30:29,128 so I never had time to really talk and get to know them, 537 00:30:29,144 --> 00:30:30,562 which was unfortunate. 538 00:30:30,586 --> 00:30:33,700 (SERENE FLUTE MUSIC) 539 00:30:37,378 --> 00:30:40,294 (MEN CONVERSE IN LOCAL LANGUAGE) 540 00:30:42,711 --> 00:30:45,086 (CREW CHANT RHYTHMICALLY) 541 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,123 (SOLEMN VOCAL MUSIC) 542 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,792 (SOLEMN VOCAL MUSIC CONTINUES) 543 00:30:57,610 --> 00:30:59,485 For long periods, once we were out 544 00:30:59,485 --> 00:31:03,152 on the main bosom of Mother Ganga, we were going through 545 00:31:03,152 --> 00:31:05,575 seemingly sparsely inhabited areas 546 00:31:05,575 --> 00:31:07,659 and the peace of the river 547 00:31:07,659 --> 00:31:10,619 and sometimes temples actually in the middle of the river. 548 00:31:10,752 --> 00:31:12,607 (SOLEMN MUSIC CONTINUES) 549 00:31:13,683 --> 00:31:15,516 One of the brilliant things about the journey 550 00:31:15,516 --> 00:31:17,391 was the contrasts - 551 00:31:17,391 --> 00:31:20,266 I mean, the great crowds of Calcutta, 552 00:31:20,266 --> 00:31:22,953 and then out on the Gangetic Plains, 553 00:31:23,026 --> 00:31:25,734 roaring along in our Jetboats, 554 00:31:25,859 --> 00:31:29,345 the country boats with their great patchwork quilt sails, 555 00:31:29,488 --> 00:31:32,160 moving along, and the singing of the boatmen. 556 00:31:32,195 --> 00:31:34,278 (SOLEMN VOCAL MUSIC) 557 00:31:34,278 --> 00:31:36,361 (ENGINE CHUGS SOFTLY) 558 00:31:39,219 --> 00:31:44,636 We saw one sail that definitely had more holes in it than cloth. 559 00:31:44,674 --> 00:31:47,840 But by some magic - probably they'd done puja - 560 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,215 it was drawing the ship along perfectly, 561 00:31:50,215 --> 00:31:54,090 just as if it had been a full sail. It was absolutely magical. 562 00:31:54,090 --> 00:31:57,794 And to be in this sublime, peaceful atmosphere 563 00:31:57,809 --> 00:31:58,988 was just wonderful. 564 00:31:58,997 --> 00:32:01,080 (STIRRING VOCAL MUSIC) 565 00:32:03,556 --> 00:32:06,389 The absolutely stunning, big river boats 566 00:32:06,389 --> 00:32:10,431 carrying cargos of rock and sand for building. 567 00:32:11,042 --> 00:32:14,875 It was as the river had been 10,000 years ago, 568 00:32:15,354 --> 00:32:17,854 and the boats we were seeing were very old boats. 569 00:32:17,854 --> 00:32:19,604 They were like nothing else you ever saw. 570 00:32:19,604 --> 00:32:23,813 I'm sure, go back there in the 21st century, 571 00:32:23,821 --> 00:32:26,820 and there'll be motorboats. But they were not motorboats then. 572 00:32:29,697 --> 00:32:32,697 (HAUNTING VOCAL MUSIC CONTINUES) 573 00:32:35,766 --> 00:32:39,016 When it was getting a bit difficult to sail, 574 00:32:39,016 --> 00:32:43,371 they would simply put these straining young people 575 00:32:43,387 --> 00:32:46,380 on the end of a long rope and tow the boats up the river. 576 00:32:48,224 --> 00:32:50,307 Like they used to do in England, in the canals and that, 577 00:32:50,379 --> 00:32:53,881 but instead of using horses, they were using people. 578 00:32:58,100 --> 00:33:00,183 (SHEETS RUSTLE) 579 00:33:00,342 --> 00:33:02,425 (SERENE MUSIC) 580 00:33:06,066 --> 00:33:08,149 (THUMP! THUMP!) 581 00:33:10,824 --> 00:33:12,907 (THUD! THUD!) 582 00:33:15,828 --> 00:33:17,911 (THWACK!) 583 00:33:18,828 --> 00:33:23,494 And every night we would choose a spot, usually by a village, 584 00:33:23,494 --> 00:33:26,132 and go and respectfully ask the villagers - 585 00:33:26,133 --> 00:33:29,275 could we camp near their village, 586 00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:32,925 and always, of course, eagerly agreed to. 587 00:33:36,450 --> 00:33:38,534 (ENGINE RUMBLES) 588 00:33:40,700 --> 00:33:44,354 And this is the case just for ordinary mortals, 589 00:33:44,424 --> 00:33:49,260 but of course, with Ed being considered a god, 590 00:33:49,715 --> 00:33:53,132 we were now involved with hospitality to God, 591 00:33:53,157 --> 00:33:54,272 her or himself. 592 00:33:54,563 --> 00:33:59,396 They welcomed us not just warmly but very self-sacrificially. 593 00:33:59,396 --> 00:34:01,730 (SPEAKS IN LOCAL LANGUAGE) 594 00:34:05,271 --> 00:34:08,271 (BOTH CONVERSE IN LOCAL LANGUAGE) 595 00:34:11,730 --> 00:34:13,814 (SERENE VOCAL MUSIC) 596 00:34:16,522 --> 00:34:20,105 The incredible thing about the Ganges River, the Ganga, 597 00:34:20,105 --> 00:34:22,953 is it really is a living, breathing river. 598 00:34:23,117 --> 00:34:27,617 It moves around on the surface of the Great Gangetic Plains, 599 00:34:27,617 --> 00:34:30,178 cutting away at the banks of the river. 600 00:34:30,194 --> 00:34:33,444 And not infrequently, we would visit villages 601 00:34:33,444 --> 00:34:37,069 where extensive amounts of the village and their fields 602 00:34:37,069 --> 00:34:38,985 had been cut away by the river. 603 00:34:39,180 --> 00:34:42,555 A village which had already lost half its houses 604 00:34:42,555 --> 00:34:46,085 had not sufficient flat ground left for us to camp on 605 00:34:46,234 --> 00:34:47,776 that didn't have crops on. 606 00:34:47,776 --> 00:34:51,401 So... (CHUCKLES) without a second thought, seemingly, 607 00:34:51,401 --> 00:34:54,620 they proceeded to cut down some of their precious corn crop 608 00:34:54,628 --> 00:34:57,160 to give us room to camp - 609 00:34:57,747 --> 00:35:01,913 which struck me as the most extraordinary hospitality 610 00:35:01,938 --> 00:35:05,193 we've ever been privileged to be offered. 611 00:35:05,962 --> 00:35:11,170 Both with the crop cut down and camping, we would offer to pay, 612 00:35:11,170 --> 00:35:14,066 and this was firmly refused. 613 00:35:14,656 --> 00:35:17,405 This was hospitality that was not something you could buy; 614 00:35:17,414 --> 00:35:18,920 this was given. 615 00:35:22,628 --> 00:35:25,753 Now, the Ganga is not just a symbol of life; 616 00:35:25,753 --> 00:35:30,278 it is actually, to many, many hundreds of millions of people, 617 00:35:30,301 --> 00:35:33,218 literally life itself. It's water for irrigation, 618 00:35:33,218 --> 00:35:36,270 water for drinking, water for transport. 619 00:35:36,278 --> 00:35:37,819 And of course, I think this underlies 620 00:35:37,819 --> 00:35:41,069 the spiritual significance as well. 621 00:35:41,069 --> 00:35:43,153 (PEACEFUL MUSIC) 622 00:35:43,478 --> 00:35:47,603 It's Mother Ganga that laid down the fertile soil 623 00:35:47,603 --> 00:35:49,644 that supports the vast population 624 00:35:49,644 --> 00:35:52,972 of the plains of Ganga, every flood. 625 00:35:52,980 --> 00:35:58,063 But it's Mother Ganga also that, in floods, cuts away that land 626 00:35:58,063 --> 00:36:00,730 and redistributes it downriver. 627 00:36:00,730 --> 00:36:03,855 But we felt that the villagers accepted this. 628 00:36:03,855 --> 00:36:07,938 And if the river took - whether lives or houses - 629 00:36:08,813 --> 00:36:10,772 you had to accept that. 630 00:36:10,772 --> 00:36:12,980 The thing is to adjust your inner attitudes 631 00:36:12,980 --> 00:36:17,397 and to accept life as it is - both giving and taking. 632 00:36:18,010 --> 00:36:22,551 And Ganga is, in my view, the most superb symbol of this, 633 00:36:22,551 --> 00:36:25,968 which explains, of course, at least in part, 634 00:36:25,968 --> 00:36:29,833 its great holiness and why it's reverenced so deeply. 635 00:36:30,424 --> 00:36:33,549 I remember Murray and I going off into the village, 636 00:36:33,549 --> 00:36:35,765 and it was like a time warp 637 00:36:35,790 --> 00:36:38,128 going into the quiet little lanes. 638 00:36:38,143 --> 00:36:40,518 (MILK SPRAYS RHYTHMICALLY) 639 00:36:40,927 --> 00:36:45,787 People milking their buffalo, going about their daily chores. 640 00:36:45,796 --> 00:36:47,338 (RHYTHMIC SLOSHING) 641 00:36:47,664 --> 00:36:52,705 And they'd just look up and smile at us, and we'd wander on. 642 00:36:57,394 --> 00:37:00,436 But there was something very restful about them. 643 00:37:00,461 --> 00:37:03,377 It just felt as though those people had been there 644 00:37:03,377 --> 00:37:06,315 for thousands of years. And I think they had actually. 645 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,905 There's no doubt in my mind that although we were just rough, 646 00:37:10,905 --> 00:37:13,887 skeptical New Zealand mountaineers, 647 00:37:13,895 --> 00:37:17,353 the gentle wisdom of Hinduism was sinking into us 648 00:37:17,353 --> 00:37:21,145 through this trip up Mother Ganga. 649 00:37:24,731 --> 00:37:28,523 And we were definitely beginning to drop that Anglicized name - 650 00:37:28,523 --> 00:37:31,440 The Ganges - and calling her Ganga 651 00:37:32,065 --> 00:37:34,481 or Ganga Ama - Mother Ganga. 652 00:37:39,875 --> 00:37:41,875 And so we would spend the night 653 00:37:41,875 --> 00:37:43,667 with perhaps a few village children coming round 654 00:37:43,667 --> 00:37:46,917 and peering at us, wondering what Max Pearl was doing 655 00:37:46,917 --> 00:37:49,317 when he was shaving with an electric shaver. 656 00:37:49,324 --> 00:37:52,658 But very respectfully left on our own, and it was sheer bliss 657 00:37:52,658 --> 00:37:54,741 after the crowds. 658 00:37:57,449 --> 00:37:59,533 (GENTLE FLUTE MUSIC) 659 00:38:00,533 --> 00:38:02,908 (IMPASSIONED VOCAL MUSIC) 660 00:38:15,949 --> 00:38:18,116 (VOCAL MUSIC CONTINUES) 661 00:38:32,673 --> 00:38:34,840 (VOCAL MUSIC CONTINUES) 662 00:38:45,007 --> 00:38:47,090 (MUSIC QUIETENS) 663 00:38:47,090 --> 00:38:49,632 (INDISTINCT CONVERSATIONS) 664 00:38:58,148 --> 00:39:00,231 (SERENE VOCAL MUSIC) 665 00:39:09,443 --> 00:39:11,527 Wherever you went, 666 00:39:11,735 --> 00:39:14,277 you were aware how important 667 00:39:14,860 --> 00:39:16,818 Hinduism was to these people 668 00:39:16,818 --> 00:39:19,152 and how it was completely linked to the river, 669 00:39:19,177 --> 00:39:23,248 because you saw ritual bathing all the way up the river. 670 00:39:24,029 --> 00:39:27,529 Mother Ganga, because of all the population, 671 00:39:27,529 --> 00:39:30,696 was, even in our day, polluted. 672 00:39:30,696 --> 00:39:33,821 And it's even worse - much worse now. 673 00:39:33,918 --> 00:39:37,710 But in Hindu belief, it is completely pure. 674 00:39:37,775 --> 00:39:39,775 I believed this for a while and drank some 675 00:39:39,775 --> 00:39:41,775 and came down with amoebic dysentery. 676 00:39:41,775 --> 00:39:43,626 But that shows I wasn't spiritual enough. 677 00:39:44,394 --> 00:39:47,228 I didn't go along with the Indian philosophy 678 00:39:47,228 --> 00:39:49,769 of self-purification in the Ganges, 679 00:39:49,769 --> 00:39:52,591 cos it didn't look like it to me. (CHUCKLES) 680 00:39:52,835 --> 00:39:55,043 The proper explanation is the Hindu explanation - 681 00:39:55,043 --> 00:39:56,168 it's a sacred river. 682 00:39:56,168 --> 00:39:58,335 How could any pollution get in a sacred river? 683 00:39:58,335 --> 00:39:59,567 Anything that falls in is purified. 684 00:39:59,583 --> 00:40:02,541 If I fell in and died there, I would go instantly to heaven. 685 00:40:03,095 --> 00:40:06,053 But there have been attempts to explain it scientifically 686 00:40:06,053 --> 00:40:10,012 by saying that it goes through some deposits in the river bed 687 00:40:10,012 --> 00:40:13,803 that have antibiotic properties and so on. 688 00:40:14,393 --> 00:40:16,476 I wouldn't... 689 00:40:16,476 --> 00:40:19,726 dare pronounce on the truth of the matter, 690 00:40:19,726 --> 00:40:22,589 but it's certainly regarded as pure. 691 00:40:22,893 --> 00:40:24,976 - Come on! - Whoa! 692 00:40:25,149 --> 00:40:26,149 (YELLS) 693 00:40:26,149 --> 00:40:29,732 (LAUGHTER) 694 00:40:31,883 --> 00:40:35,342 You definitely kept your head above water, and I actually 695 00:40:35,342 --> 00:40:38,059 don't remember having any problems. 696 00:40:38,082 --> 00:40:40,624 I don't know whether I'd do it now. 697 00:40:40,624 --> 00:40:42,832 But we were a lot younger and a lot more stupid then, 698 00:40:42,832 --> 00:40:46,040 you know, because it's not the healthiest river in the world 699 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,544 to swim in, with all due respects to India. (CHUCKLES) 700 00:40:50,299 --> 00:40:52,382 (MYSTICAL MUSIC) 701 00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:55,583 We knew the water could actually kill us 702 00:40:55,584 --> 00:40:57,920 in the bouldery rapids ahead. 703 00:40:57,928 --> 00:41:00,761 And we knew the higher the river level, the more chance 704 00:41:00,761 --> 00:41:02,871 we actually had of getting through. 705 00:41:02,872 --> 00:41:06,289 So we were here at the tail end of the monsoon 706 00:41:06,289 --> 00:41:11,122 when river volumes are 30 times the dry-season volumes. 707 00:41:11,247 --> 00:41:14,407 And these vast black clouds were always with us. 708 00:41:14,415 --> 00:41:16,498 (THUNDER RUMBLES) 709 00:41:18,621 --> 00:41:20,704 (BICYCLE BELL DINGS) 710 00:41:20,704 --> 00:41:22,787 (WATER SLOSHES) 711 00:41:23,662 --> 00:41:25,621 There was water, water everywhere. 712 00:41:25,621 --> 00:41:27,408 (LAUGHS HEARTILY) 713 00:41:27,432 --> 00:41:31,660 Some towns we passed were living semi-aquatic lifestyles, 714 00:41:34,208 --> 00:41:38,375 and the river itself sometimes looked like a sea. 715 00:41:38,375 --> 00:41:42,333 With the river being so wide and not much current showing, 716 00:41:42,333 --> 00:41:45,750 we couldn't tell which way was upstream 717 00:41:45,855 --> 00:41:48,605 or whether we were going sideways or up-ways. 718 00:41:48,605 --> 00:41:51,232 It was very hard for us to know what direction 719 00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:53,365 even to head in sometimes. 720 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,140 We were, honestly, right in the middle of nowhere. 721 00:41:57,140 --> 00:41:59,765 It was, like, horizon to horizon. 722 00:41:59,765 --> 00:42:01,973 You could not see land either side. 723 00:42:01,973 --> 00:42:05,183 We were taking compass settings in the middle of the Ganges. 724 00:42:05,339 --> 00:42:09,005 And in a lot of places, big tributaries came down, 725 00:42:09,005 --> 00:42:12,755 and where the rivers joined, it was very difficult to know 726 00:42:12,755 --> 00:42:15,274 even that you were on the right river. 727 00:42:15,283 --> 00:42:18,965 Reading the water depth was almost impossible. 728 00:42:19,379 --> 00:42:23,462 And you'd be driving along in this brown water and be not sure 729 00:42:23,462 --> 00:42:25,465 how deep it was. 730 00:42:26,504 --> 00:42:29,046 So between 30m or 40m depth... 731 00:42:29,856 --> 00:42:32,239 and, um, well, 732 00:42:32,264 --> 00:42:33,814 a few millimeters' depth, 733 00:42:33,814 --> 00:42:37,064 there is nothing to show you on the surface - nothing at all - 734 00:42:37,064 --> 00:42:38,939 no ripples, nothing. 735 00:42:38,939 --> 00:42:41,106 So consequently, we had a terrible time knowing 736 00:42:41,106 --> 00:42:45,005 where the deep water was, and these boats go about 30mph - 737 00:42:45,013 --> 00:42:47,671 50 or so kilometers an hour, I think. 738 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,847 So most of us were on edge. 739 00:42:50,597 --> 00:42:52,680 Jetboats hate sand. 740 00:42:53,428 --> 00:42:58,480 They love mud, but sand will just stop them dead. 741 00:42:58,992 --> 00:43:01,034 So there was one occasion, 742 00:43:01,034 --> 00:43:04,784 when I was lounging on the front of the boat, 743 00:43:04,806 --> 00:43:08,764 enjoying the sun and tearing along at 50km/h, 744 00:43:10,347 --> 00:43:12,431 and suddenly, woomph! 745 00:43:16,847 --> 00:43:19,062 - You all right?! - Oh! Thanks, Jim! 746 00:43:19,062 --> 00:43:20,895 - Are you OK? - I felt like a swim! 747 00:43:21,238 --> 00:43:23,738 Boy, we had some terrible groundings. 748 00:43:23,738 --> 00:43:25,780 People and equipment would be thrown 749 00:43:25,780 --> 00:43:29,072 either overboard or forward inside the boat, 750 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,220 and people would be injured. 751 00:43:31,872 --> 00:43:34,872 There were many groundings - many. 752 00:43:35,554 --> 00:43:39,429 Mingma was thrown off, and his whole lip was cut, 753 00:43:39,429 --> 00:43:42,804 and Max Pearl had to stitch up his lip. 754 00:43:43,665 --> 00:43:46,248 Yes, the only doctor to set up practice 755 00:43:46,248 --> 00:43:48,346 in the middle of the Ganges. 756 00:43:49,198 --> 00:43:51,573 Max Pearl was a very close friend. 757 00:43:51,573 --> 00:43:54,323 In fact, he was our family doctor 758 00:43:54,323 --> 00:43:57,656 and began to go on a number of my father's expeditions 759 00:43:57,681 --> 00:43:59,823 to help with setting up the first hospitals 760 00:43:59,823 --> 00:44:02,698 up in the Mt Everest area in the Himalayas. 761 00:44:03,699 --> 00:44:07,475 He was one of the most loved members of the expedition. 762 00:44:07,500 --> 00:44:10,417 And just a few years later, tragically, 763 00:44:10,417 --> 00:44:13,917 he was back in a river in New Zealand, fly-fishing 764 00:44:13,917 --> 00:44:16,125 when they raised the level of the river, 765 00:44:16,125 --> 00:44:19,400 and Max was swept away to his death - a terrible tragedy. 766 00:44:19,815 --> 00:44:21,899 (POIGNANT MUSIC) 767 00:44:33,310 --> 00:44:35,393 (ENGINE HUMS) 768 00:44:38,526 --> 00:44:41,568 Now we were halfway from the ocean to the sky, 769 00:44:41,568 --> 00:44:44,109 entering the holy city of Varanasi, 770 00:44:44,109 --> 00:44:47,480 and no one could be happier to be here than Jim Wilson. 771 00:44:48,210 --> 00:44:50,751 Jim had actually trained for the Christian ministry, 772 00:44:50,751 --> 00:44:53,543 but then his spiritual life had taken as many twists and turns 773 00:44:53,543 --> 00:44:56,543 as his jetboat, and it led him here, 774 00:44:56,623 --> 00:44:59,539 where he did a doctorate in Hindu Philosophy. 775 00:44:59,539 --> 00:45:01,831 - (SPEAKS LOCAL LANGUAGE) - (LAUGHS) 776 00:45:01,831 --> 00:45:03,081 Your teacher very good. 777 00:45:03,081 --> 00:45:05,373 (PRAYS IN LOCAL LANGUAGE) 778 00:45:11,703 --> 00:45:14,536 Eventually we came to Varanasi, 779 00:45:14,661 --> 00:45:17,661 where Ann and I had lived for two years. 780 00:45:17,661 --> 00:45:21,828 It was one of the most, if not the most sacred city 781 00:45:21,847 --> 00:45:23,362 in the whole of India, 782 00:45:23,371 --> 00:45:25,704 and I think the reason was that it was on a bend 783 00:45:25,704 --> 00:45:28,496 in Mother Ganga. 784 00:45:28,496 --> 00:45:33,079 The sun rose, straight across the river, a magnificent sight, 785 00:45:33,079 --> 00:45:37,048 and so the two great symbols of life - the heat from the sun, 786 00:45:37,064 --> 00:45:40,340 the liquid, the water from the river - combined. 787 00:45:42,023 --> 00:45:45,981 It is a truly magnificent, very moving place, 788 00:45:46,007 --> 00:45:49,344 and people come from all over India, of course, to bathe here. 789 00:45:50,464 --> 00:45:54,047 If you bathe in Mother Ganga there, with the right attitude, 790 00:45:54,047 --> 00:45:57,526 one would hope you'd get rid of all your bad karma, 791 00:45:57,534 --> 00:45:58,575 all your demerits; 792 00:45:58,575 --> 00:46:03,784 all your bad deeds are washed away by the purity of the river. 793 00:46:03,784 --> 00:46:05,867 (SERENE MUSIC) 794 00:46:08,922 --> 00:46:12,713 Jim was really excited about going back to Varanasi, 795 00:46:12,713 --> 00:46:14,463 but I think, for all of us, 796 00:46:14,463 --> 00:46:16,922 it was really like the halfway point. 797 00:46:16,922 --> 00:46:18,547 We were halfway up the river. 798 00:46:18,547 --> 00:46:21,843 This was one of the world's oldest living cities, 799 00:46:21,851 --> 00:46:23,976 and it was the heart of Hinduism - 800 00:46:23,976 --> 00:46:28,309 you know, very much the theology of this great river. 801 00:46:28,309 --> 00:46:30,851 And so there was great excitement amongst all of us, 802 00:46:30,851 --> 00:46:34,351 and, I have to say, it did not disappoint. 803 00:46:37,112 --> 00:46:39,862 And if you add to that that it had been continuously inhabited, 804 00:46:39,862 --> 00:46:41,612 at least from the time of the Buddha, 805 00:46:41,612 --> 00:46:45,862 so at least for 3000 years, and has been a holy pilgrimage place 806 00:46:45,862 --> 00:46:47,737 for all that time; 807 00:46:47,737 --> 00:46:50,112 and then add to that the sheer, wacky, 808 00:46:50,112 --> 00:46:52,404 colorful chaos of it all, 809 00:46:53,737 --> 00:46:55,404 then you end up with the fact 810 00:46:55,404 --> 00:46:58,154 that Varanasi is a very powerful place indeed. 811 00:46:58,154 --> 00:47:00,529 It makes a deep impression. 812 00:47:00,529 --> 00:47:05,320 It's just such a crazy kaleidoscope of color and sound 813 00:47:05,733 --> 00:47:09,758 and the constant intermingling of human and other animals. 814 00:47:09,759 --> 00:47:12,259 So it was a city that seemed chaotic, 815 00:47:12,259 --> 00:47:15,217 but people were nice to each other - 816 00:47:15,217 --> 00:47:17,255 just in a very stimulating way 817 00:47:17,255 --> 00:47:20,640 and was actually- I mean, it operated very well. 818 00:47:20,679 --> 00:47:22,846 (SPEAKS LOCAL LANGUAGE) 819 00:47:22,846 --> 00:47:25,096 (PUNGI PLAYS UPBEAT TUNE) 820 00:47:30,637 --> 00:47:32,804 (PUNGI MUSIC CONTINUES) 821 00:47:41,804 --> 00:47:44,096 (UPBEAT MUSIC CONTINUES) 822 00:47:52,020 --> 00:47:54,020 Each morning, these young guys would come out 823 00:47:54,020 --> 00:47:57,020 and do calisthenics and literally tie themselves up 824 00:47:57,020 --> 00:47:58,533 in knots. 825 00:48:00,216 --> 00:48:03,799 On one occasion I joined them. And I was reasonably flexible, 826 00:48:03,799 --> 00:48:07,674 but not as flexible as them - that is for sure. 827 00:48:08,541 --> 00:48:10,624 (CROWD CHEERS, CLAPS) 828 00:48:11,082 --> 00:48:13,916 And that was part of the magic of it - engaging with what 829 00:48:13,916 --> 00:48:15,416 the people were doing. 830 00:48:15,416 --> 00:48:19,041 And we were received by them wonderfully. 831 00:48:20,624 --> 00:48:23,874 (MUSICIANS PLAY TRADITIONAL MUSIC) 832 00:48:48,274 --> 00:48:50,358 (CONCH PEALS) 833 00:48:53,508 --> 00:48:55,591 (PRAYS IN LOCAL LANGUAGE) 834 00:48:55,591 --> 00:48:58,758 So, at Varanasi, we had a second puja. 835 00:49:01,633 --> 00:49:03,716 (CONTINUES PRAYING) 836 00:49:04,283 --> 00:49:09,158 I think that puja in Varanasi was incredibly important. 837 00:49:09,177 --> 00:49:11,261 (BELL RINGS) 838 00:49:11,261 --> 00:49:12,802 (CROWD JOINS IN PRAYER) 839 00:49:12,802 --> 00:49:14,469 We were halfway through the journey. 840 00:49:14,469 --> 00:49:16,747 The Himalayas were still out in front. 841 00:49:16,919 --> 00:49:18,794 But what had happened in the past, 842 00:49:18,794 --> 00:49:21,627 with the loss of my mother and my sister, 843 00:49:21,627 --> 00:49:25,002 was still very heavily upon our hearts. 844 00:49:25,002 --> 00:49:27,377 (BELL RINGS RHYTHMICALLY) 845 00:49:28,252 --> 00:49:30,336 (DRUMS PLAY RAPID BEAT) 846 00:49:33,799 --> 00:49:37,341 So I think that little puja that we had there 847 00:49:37,341 --> 00:49:42,132 on the Ghats of Varanasi was a very important occasion. 848 00:49:43,109 --> 00:49:45,026 And I think something happened for Dad. 849 00:49:45,026 --> 00:49:49,127 I think there was a bit of levity that came out of that. 850 00:49:49,136 --> 00:49:53,800 And in a way it put to peace just a little bit 851 00:49:54,136 --> 00:49:57,345 of what had happened to us in the past. 852 00:49:57,617 --> 00:50:01,326 Something in the puja seemed to soothe Ed and take away 853 00:50:01,326 --> 00:50:04,784 some of the pain he was suffering. 854 00:50:04,784 --> 00:50:08,326 And it was good to see the light come back into his eyes, 855 00:50:08,326 --> 00:50:11,284 particularly seeing the most exciting part of our expedition 856 00:50:11,284 --> 00:50:12,861 lay just ahead. 857 00:50:12,869 --> 00:50:17,744 I think Ed changed before us, actually, before our eyes. 858 00:50:18,196 --> 00:50:20,029 It was a very powerful moment. 859 00:50:20,029 --> 00:50:23,904 The climax was floating fragile little leaf boats 860 00:50:23,904 --> 00:50:28,987 with lighted candles in out on to the bosom of Mother Ganga. 861 00:50:29,148 --> 00:50:33,232 And we took it as a symbol of the fact that shortly, our boats 862 00:50:33,232 --> 00:50:37,030 would be as frail as these little leaf boats 863 00:50:37,055 --> 00:50:41,232 when we tackled the white water of the mountainous gorge 864 00:50:41,232 --> 00:50:43,315 of Mother Ganga. 865 00:50:44,677 --> 00:50:47,740 (UPBEAT SITAR MUSIC) 866 00:50:57,505 --> 00:51:00,005 Finally we reached the end of the plains 867 00:51:00,005 --> 00:51:01,657 and were approaching the mountains. 868 00:51:01,664 --> 00:51:06,367 The river was steepening here but not yet too steep 869 00:51:07,180 --> 00:51:12,180 for the local milkman to make his delivery run down the rapids 870 00:51:12,180 --> 00:51:14,555 without spilling a drop. 871 00:51:15,986 --> 00:51:20,236 But just beyond, the serious white water starts. 872 00:51:21,278 --> 00:51:23,361 The river steepens drastically, 873 00:51:23,361 --> 00:51:27,403 and the banks close in in deep gorges. 874 00:51:28,641 --> 00:51:33,724 Our spirits rose at the same time as our trepidation arose. 875 00:51:35,057 --> 00:51:38,307 At Rishikesh, all the local people were, of course, 876 00:51:38,307 --> 00:51:40,724 quite certain that we would sink. 877 00:51:41,050 --> 00:51:42,717 They were divided into two. 878 00:51:42,717 --> 00:51:46,009 The pessimists thought we would undoubtedly sink 879 00:51:46,009 --> 00:51:47,967 in the first rapid round the corner; 880 00:51:47,967 --> 00:51:53,384 the optimists thought we might get about 10km up and then sink. 881 00:51:54,140 --> 00:51:57,015 We thought we'd get a little further, but this did sort of 882 00:51:57,015 --> 00:51:58,931 dent our confidence a little bit. 883 00:51:58,931 --> 00:52:03,598 So we took the canopies off, because if a boat did sink, 884 00:52:03,623 --> 00:52:05,681 it might make it difficult to get out of the boat 885 00:52:05,681 --> 00:52:08,181 with the canopy on. (LAUGHS) 886 00:52:09,140 --> 00:52:10,890 And we wish you all the best, 887 00:52:10,890 --> 00:52:12,931 on behalf of our master Swami Shivananda- 888 00:52:12,931 --> 00:52:14,056 MAN: May God bless you all! 889 00:52:14,056 --> 00:52:16,473 ...and all our prayers with you. 890 00:52:16,473 --> 00:52:19,051 We wish you happy and safe journey. Come back. 891 00:52:19,076 --> 00:52:20,539 (LAUGHTER) 892 00:52:20,539 --> 00:52:22,372 (SPEAKS LOCAL LANGUAGE) 893 00:52:22,372 --> 00:52:24,456 (ALL CHANT, CHEER) 894 00:52:25,539 --> 00:52:27,622 (UPBEAT MUSIC) 895 00:52:30,539 --> 00:52:32,831 (MAN YELLS, CROWD CHEERS) 896 00:52:38,956 --> 00:52:41,622 We set off, and immediately, around the first corner, 897 00:52:41,622 --> 00:52:43,206 if I remember rightly, from Rishikesh, 898 00:52:43,206 --> 00:52:45,164 we came across a horrendous rapid. 899 00:52:45,164 --> 00:52:46,372 (WATER ROARS) 900 00:52:46,372 --> 00:52:49,122 It really did have some very big waves in it, 901 00:52:49,122 --> 00:52:50,537 particularly near the bottom. 902 00:52:50,776 --> 00:52:53,400 It really looked like the pessimists might be right. 903 00:52:54,484 --> 00:52:56,776 (UPBEAT MUSIC CONTINUES) 904 00:53:01,839 --> 00:53:04,339 We lightened the boats and carried gear 905 00:53:04,363 --> 00:53:07,853 to the top of the rapids and set up our cameras. 906 00:53:07,869 --> 00:53:09,953 (LIVELY, BUSY MUSIC) 907 00:53:13,161 --> 00:53:16,703 The drivers, Jon and Mike Hamilton, and Jim Wilson, 908 00:53:16,703 --> 00:53:19,792 decided they'd risk taking just one passenger each. 909 00:53:19,815 --> 00:53:23,482 And lionhearted Mohan Kohli, Everest mountaineer, 910 00:53:23,482 --> 00:53:27,273 made the necessary preparations to go with Jon. 911 00:53:27,273 --> 00:53:29,357 (ENGINE RUMBLES) 912 00:53:31,448 --> 00:53:35,865 My father led the first boat up through the rapids. 913 00:53:36,786 --> 00:53:41,119 The first path he tried, he found he couldn't proceed 914 00:53:41,144 --> 00:53:43,080 because of the waves. 915 00:53:43,088 --> 00:53:45,880 He ended up having to cross to the far side of the river 916 00:53:45,905 --> 00:53:47,988 over some huge waves... 917 00:53:51,099 --> 00:53:53,891 and then made his way up through the rapids, 918 00:53:53,891 --> 00:53:57,224 crossing back again up near the top... 919 00:53:57,224 --> 00:53:59,307 (TENSE MUSIC) 920 00:54:00,432 --> 00:54:02,516 (MUSIC RISES) 921 00:54:07,060 --> 00:54:11,018 and finally making his way out successfully. 922 00:54:12,238 --> 00:54:14,322 (TRIUMPHANT MUSIC) 923 00:54:16,703 --> 00:54:20,453 Ed, in addition to allowing me to drive the third boat, 924 00:54:20,453 --> 00:54:22,453 traveled with me in the dangerous water. 925 00:54:22,453 --> 00:54:25,584 I think he felt that if I was to drown, it would be safer for him 926 00:54:25,593 --> 00:54:28,382 to drown too than to go back and face Anne and tell her 927 00:54:28,391 --> 00:54:31,558 what he'd done to me. So Ed was with me in the boat. 928 00:54:31,558 --> 00:54:34,308 And we had to go across the river 929 00:54:34,849 --> 00:54:39,683 between huge breaking standing waves and go up the other side. 930 00:54:39,683 --> 00:54:43,764 And as I tried to sidle across between the two breaking waves, 931 00:54:43,787 --> 00:54:46,121 the boat lurched, and I fell off the accelerator, and of course 932 00:54:46,121 --> 00:54:48,954 then the boat just wildly gyrated down 933 00:54:48,954 --> 00:54:50,564 over the next standing waves. 934 00:54:50,587 --> 00:54:53,628 I managed to get back on to the accelerator. 935 00:54:53,675 --> 00:54:54,925 It was scary just filming, 936 00:54:54,925 --> 00:54:58,384 knowing that if the bow went under, they were probably gone. 937 00:54:59,088 --> 00:55:01,671 You know, Ed didn't have to be in a boat at all, 938 00:55:01,671 --> 00:55:05,088 and certainly not with Jim - the least experienced driver 939 00:55:05,088 --> 00:55:08,165 who'd lost a boat on a scarily similar rapid 940 00:55:08,181 --> 00:55:10,060 on that first expedition. 941 00:55:11,306 --> 00:55:15,348 I realised I wasn't just filming a boat battling a rapid; 942 00:55:15,348 --> 00:55:18,468 I was filming an incredible act of courage and loyalty. 943 00:55:18,491 --> 00:55:20,574 (ENGINE ROARS) 944 00:55:29,471 --> 00:55:33,554 I think, for all of us involved, this was the... 945 00:55:34,096 --> 00:55:38,262 ultimate expedition, the ultimate adventure, 946 00:55:38,472 --> 00:55:41,597 partly because it brought together 947 00:55:41,622 --> 00:55:43,555 so many cultural and religious 948 00:55:43,555 --> 00:55:46,680 and mountain and adventure themes; 949 00:55:47,745 --> 00:55:51,870 but above all because we were with a man whom we all 950 00:55:51,870 --> 00:55:54,662 (VOICE BREAKS) really loved. 951 00:55:54,687 --> 00:55:56,579 Ed was not only a great adventurer 952 00:55:56,579 --> 00:56:01,454 and a tremendous organizer, but he was a very lovely man. 953 00:56:04,172 --> 00:56:06,214 And once you'd won his trust, 954 00:56:06,214 --> 00:56:09,785 he was the most loyal friend you could ever hope for. 955 00:56:09,793 --> 00:56:12,584 The fact that he traveled with me in my boat, 956 00:56:12,584 --> 00:56:16,020 regardless of difficulties and danger, 957 00:56:16,043 --> 00:56:18,215 the fact that he wanted his friends 958 00:56:18,215 --> 00:56:22,506 to be part of the expedition rather than bringing in experts, 959 00:56:22,506 --> 00:56:26,090 the fact that he could change plans at a moment's notice 960 00:56:26,090 --> 00:56:28,590 if circumstances demanded - 961 00:56:29,416 --> 00:56:33,684 they all added up to a man who was a very lovely man 962 00:56:33,684 --> 00:56:36,142 and who remained throughout 963 00:56:36,142 --> 00:56:39,100 very humble about his own extraordinary qualities. 964 00:56:39,100 --> 00:56:40,850 So it's small wonder that we loved him 965 00:56:40,850 --> 00:56:43,434 and we'd go anywhere with him. 966 00:56:44,225 --> 00:56:46,309 (EERIE, ECHOING MUSIC) 967 00:56:47,067 --> 00:56:49,150 (FLAMES CRACKLE) 968 00:56:54,806 --> 00:56:56,890 (MUSIC QUIETENS) 969 00:57:07,472 --> 00:57:11,639 After the first big rapid, we saw Mohan taking much longer 970 00:57:11,639 --> 00:57:13,748 over his prayers than he had previously. 971 00:57:13,757 --> 00:57:17,673 And it worked, because next day, the rapids were easier 972 00:57:17,673 --> 00:57:19,757 and we had a superb day. 973 00:57:19,757 --> 00:57:21,840 (LIVELY MUSIC) 974 00:57:33,956 --> 00:57:34,958 (BLEATS) 975 00:57:34,958 --> 00:57:37,458 It was really nice jet-boating. 976 00:57:37,458 --> 00:57:40,750 We were traveling up through a high-sided gorge 977 00:57:40,750 --> 00:57:43,958 with swiftly flowing water underneath, 978 00:57:43,958 --> 00:57:48,444 and it was really good fun just driving the boats along 979 00:57:48,469 --> 00:57:50,698 when everything was going well. 980 00:57:52,886 --> 00:57:54,286 (GOATS BLEAT) 981 00:57:54,310 --> 00:57:55,958 (PENSIVE MUSIC) 982 00:57:55,983 --> 00:57:58,310 It was amazing! So unexpected. 983 00:57:58,989 --> 00:58:00,864 Sometimes the river was calm enough 984 00:58:00,864 --> 00:58:03,754 for the dead-buffalo boatmen to have a nice day out. 985 00:58:03,762 --> 00:58:05,846 (EASY-GOING MUSIC) 986 00:58:07,214 --> 00:58:09,297 (BLOWS RHYTHMICALLY) 987 00:58:11,630 --> 00:58:14,755 They'd inflate their crafts to just the right pressure 988 00:58:14,755 --> 00:58:17,172 and share the river with us. 989 00:58:17,172 --> 00:58:19,339 (ENGINE TURNS, RUMBLES) 990 00:58:19,339 --> 00:58:21,422 (SERENE MUSIC) 991 00:58:30,488 --> 00:58:33,792 (ENGINE ROARS) 992 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,307 For petrol-heads like us, 993 00:58:41,315 --> 00:58:44,762 the Chevrolet 5-liter V8 994 00:58:44,806 --> 00:58:48,162 was just a perfect noise. 995 00:58:49,063 --> 00:58:51,855 But that was just the sort of background 996 00:58:51,855 --> 00:58:53,938 to the roar of the river 997 00:58:54,243 --> 00:58:59,740 and this beautiful waltz up the wild water. 998 00:59:02,163 --> 00:59:06,621 Ed was really, really happy on this particular day. 999 00:59:06,656 --> 00:59:11,531 It was like we could go forever and nothing would stop us. 1000 00:59:15,565 --> 00:59:18,440 It was such tremendous fun, and I confidently got out 1001 00:59:18,460 --> 00:59:22,194 my big, expensive and not at all waterproof camera 1002 00:59:22,202 --> 00:59:24,789 and started filming from the boat itself. 1003 00:59:25,706 --> 00:59:28,331 And then whoa! Reality check. 1004 00:59:29,195 --> 00:59:32,500 (RAPIDS ROAR) 1005 00:59:35,861 --> 00:59:38,194 Deep down, we knew this river was deadly. 1006 00:59:38,194 --> 00:59:41,350 Two world-class canoeists had just drowned in it. 1007 00:59:41,359 --> 00:59:43,775 And I must say, this freaked me out completely. 1008 00:59:43,775 --> 00:59:48,984 I thought that if experts like that coming down had drowned, 1009 00:59:48,984 --> 00:59:51,067 who am I to stay alive? 1010 00:59:51,569 --> 00:59:54,402 We also heard that two young Indian lads 1011 00:59:54,402 --> 00:59:58,147 were trying to raft down, and they both drowned. 1012 00:59:59,792 --> 01:00:01,417 That tragedy had actually been witnessed 1013 01:00:01,417 --> 01:00:04,209 by one of our own film crew - Prem. 1014 01:00:05,048 --> 01:00:07,048 Just 11 years back, 1015 01:00:07,073 --> 01:00:11,499 the tragedy, which I had actually seen with my own eyes - 1016 01:00:11,524 --> 01:00:14,697 two boys dying on the same river. 1017 01:00:14,698 --> 01:00:17,500 (MOMENTOUS MUSIC) 1018 01:00:20,970 --> 01:00:23,428 (DRAMATIC, MENACING MUSIC) 1019 01:00:32,732 --> 01:00:36,399 Believe me, within a minute and a half,... 1020 01:00:37,214 --> 01:00:39,297 I see the raft dashed 1021 01:00:40,464 --> 01:00:45,297 and then disappeared for a few seconds under the water, 1022 01:00:45,305 --> 01:00:47,471 And then the raft came up. 1023 01:00:47,846 --> 01:00:52,948 Again, I see the raft was just floating on its own. 1024 01:00:53,677 --> 01:00:56,940 We lost two young boys, 1025 01:00:58,013 --> 01:01:01,804 and it was a most shivering memory in my mind. 1026 01:01:03,456 --> 01:01:06,664 I was praying all the time to the God Almighty 1027 01:01:06,664 --> 01:01:10,914 nothing like that should happen in our expedition 1028 01:01:10,914 --> 01:01:12,997 of Sir Edmund Hillary. 1029 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:17,373 (EERIE MUSIC) 1030 01:01:17,373 --> 01:01:21,915 It was Prem, filming us from the shore, who saw his worst fears 1031 01:01:21,915 --> 01:01:24,082 may be about to come true. 1032 01:01:25,036 --> 01:01:29,202 My dad's boat plunged into a big hole in the rapid 1033 01:01:29,994 --> 01:01:32,536 and disappeared from sight. 1034 01:01:32,773 --> 01:01:36,235 And we just paused at the top of this wave 1035 01:01:36,268 --> 01:01:40,434 and then dropped nose-first down into this hole. 1036 01:01:40,434 --> 01:01:43,476 And the water just- just smashed into us. 1037 01:01:43,476 --> 01:01:45,809 And this wall of green water 1038 01:01:46,090 --> 01:01:48,465 poured over the front of the boat. 1039 01:01:48,465 --> 01:01:51,756 We had no choice. We were pinned into the seat. 1040 01:01:51,756 --> 01:01:55,202 And we thought, 'Well, we're going to sink here, I think.' 1041 01:01:55,217 --> 01:01:56,550 Cos I really did think we were going to be 1042 01:01:56,550 --> 01:01:58,745 swimming down the Ganga after that. 1043 01:01:58,753 --> 01:02:03,674 But it was the closest I've ever been to perhaps being drowned 1044 01:02:03,699 --> 01:02:05,587 in the Ganga. 1045 01:02:05,900 --> 01:02:11,940 He managed to get it ashore, running on only five cylinders. 1046 01:02:12,937 --> 01:02:14,812 Water was up over the starter motor 1047 01:02:14,812 --> 01:02:17,509 and up over the spark plugs. 1048 01:02:18,155 --> 01:02:22,089 I had to drain the engine oil out of it 1049 01:02:22,114 --> 01:02:24,733 before we could get it going again. 1050 01:02:25,317 --> 01:02:28,526 We ended up pumping the whole boat out, draining the oil. 1051 01:02:28,526 --> 01:02:30,901 It was sort of bush maintenance 1052 01:02:30,901 --> 01:02:34,022 done on the side of the river at that point. 1053 01:02:35,104 --> 01:02:37,354 And I said to Jon Hamilton - I said, 1054 01:02:37,354 --> 01:02:40,979 'I thought you said these boats were unsinkable.' 1055 01:02:40,979 --> 01:02:44,671 And he said, 'They are. They're unsinkable when they're afloat!' 1056 01:02:44,938 --> 01:02:47,887 So even the master can make mistakes. 1057 01:02:48,798 --> 01:02:51,304 The risk, of course, is that if one of the boats sank, 1058 01:02:51,304 --> 01:02:54,637 someone might also be lost in the process. 1059 01:02:54,637 --> 01:02:58,215 And that was really unthinkable. We did not want to do that. 1060 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,137 Dad had never lost anyone on any of his expeditions, 1061 01:03:01,137 --> 01:03:03,595 and we didn't want to start now. 1062 01:03:03,595 --> 01:03:07,929 Ed always said that we'd drive until we lost a boat. 1063 01:03:08,942 --> 01:03:14,120 I think he worried about people getting hurt or dying. 1064 01:03:14,128 --> 01:03:17,545 He'd never lost anyone before on a trip. 1065 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:22,252 And if it was his very close friend Jim Wilson, 1066 01:03:22,277 --> 01:03:26,253 then that would have been a total disaster. 1067 01:03:26,253 --> 01:03:28,337 (REFLECTIVE MUSIC) 1068 01:03:32,592 --> 01:03:37,800 So, then we come to Rudraprayag and a really fearsome rapid. 1069 01:03:40,326 --> 01:03:43,701 And there in front of me was a rapid which I had seen 1070 01:03:43,701 --> 01:03:47,301 in a picture at Rishikesh before we left, 1071 01:03:47,326 --> 01:03:50,523 and which I'd been having nightmares about ever since. 1072 01:03:50,523 --> 01:03:52,273 And it was a long, bouldery rapid. 1073 01:03:52,273 --> 01:03:54,940 It looked very big indeed to me. 1074 01:03:55,815 --> 01:03:57,773 And my nightmares always ended up 1075 01:03:57,773 --> 01:03:59,523 with the boat splitting in two, 1076 01:03:59,523 --> 01:04:03,190 and me desperately trying to piece the thing together again. 1077 01:04:03,190 --> 01:04:06,106 So when I saw this rapid in reality 1078 01:04:06,123 --> 01:04:08,623 and saw that it was worse than the photograph, 1079 01:04:08,623 --> 01:04:10,865 my heart sank within me. 1080 01:04:11,555 --> 01:04:14,764 Definitely, I think my memory of sinking the boat in the Arun 1081 01:04:14,764 --> 01:04:16,180 came back to me, 1082 01:04:16,180 --> 01:04:19,357 cos this was the sort of place where I could very well sink. 1083 01:04:20,081 --> 01:04:22,165 (FOREBODING MUSIC) 1084 01:04:22,626 --> 01:04:26,001 Tensions were certainly high at the Rudraprayag rapid. 1085 01:04:26,001 --> 01:04:28,626 We weren't at all sure we could get all three boats 1086 01:04:28,626 --> 01:04:30,111 or even one up. 1087 01:04:30,643 --> 01:04:33,518 Crowds and crowds of people had come to watch. 1088 01:04:33,543 --> 01:04:38,374 We were performing in front of them, (LAUGHS) if you like. 1089 01:04:38,935 --> 01:04:42,643 We were told that storekeepers were leaving their shops open, 1090 01:04:42,643 --> 01:04:46,519 because even the thieves had gone down to watch the boats. 1091 01:04:47,949 --> 01:04:49,741 So steeling our nerves as best we could, 1092 01:04:49,741 --> 01:04:52,574 we tackled this dreadful rapid. 1093 01:04:54,767 --> 01:04:57,142 Jon, in his usual masterful fashion, 1094 01:04:57,142 --> 01:04:58,767 led up this nightmare rapid, 1095 01:04:58,767 --> 01:05:03,136 and I waited with increasing nervousness at the bottom. 1096 01:05:03,495 --> 01:05:07,820 (HEROIC, SWELLING MUSIC) 1097 01:05:17,703 --> 01:05:20,703 The crowd was actually laying bets 1098 01:05:21,203 --> 01:05:23,661 on who would get up the rapid. 1099 01:05:23,828 --> 01:05:27,411 And they all put their money on sadhu Jim, 1100 01:05:27,436 --> 01:05:30,120 because he had the beard, and he looked like a holy man, 1101 01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,995 so he must be able to do it. But in actual fact, 1102 01:05:33,020 --> 01:05:36,281 Jim was not the best driver of the expedition. (CHUCKLES) 1103 01:05:37,641 --> 01:05:40,974 The crowds gathering round, watching, 1104 01:05:40,974 --> 01:05:43,766 were laying their bets on me. They thought I was a holy man 1105 01:05:43,766 --> 01:05:47,234 and were convinced I'd already performed miracles. 1106 01:05:47,259 --> 01:05:49,250 And so they thought that if anyone would get up, 1107 01:05:49,250 --> 01:05:50,500 it would be the holy man. 1108 01:05:50,500 --> 01:05:52,750 So I fervently hoped that they were right 1109 01:05:52,750 --> 01:05:56,250 and that I could perform a miracle again. 1110 01:05:56,250 --> 01:05:58,417 (ENGINE ROARS, STRAINS) 1111 01:06:06,938 --> 01:06:11,646 It was difficult driving but not as bad as I had feared, 1112 01:06:12,124 --> 01:06:16,207 and my nightmare of sinking the boat and splitting it in two 1113 01:06:16,207 --> 01:06:18,025 was not borne out in reality. 1114 01:06:18,025 --> 01:06:20,108 (CROWD APPLAUDS) 1115 01:06:22,587 --> 01:06:24,670 I was beginning to... 1116 01:06:25,212 --> 01:06:26,254 um, 1117 01:06:26,254 --> 01:06:28,337 grade the rapids 1118 01:06:29,567 --> 01:06:33,280 by a sort of danger scale. 1119 01:06:33,305 --> 01:06:36,817 You know, if a thousand people turned up, 1120 01:06:36,817 --> 01:06:40,464 then that was relatively easy. 1121 01:06:40,488 --> 01:06:44,446 But if 10,000 people turned up to watch us die, 1122 01:06:44,450 --> 01:06:46,534 then that was a... 1123 01:06:47,784 --> 01:06:49,867 difficult rapid. 1124 01:06:50,046 --> 01:06:52,130 (TRIUMPHANT MUSIC) 1125 01:06:59,456 --> 01:07:01,997 Ed was definitely feeling the tension, 1126 01:07:01,997 --> 01:07:05,441 and as each boat got up, his elation grew, 1127 01:07:05,441 --> 01:07:07,666 and when Mike and the third boat got up, 1128 01:07:07,691 --> 01:07:11,256 he leapt to his feet and went, 'Wow!' 1129 01:07:12,766 --> 01:07:17,599 We got without undue trouble through to the Koteshwar Gorge. 1130 01:07:17,599 --> 01:07:21,391 It had an abrupt drop at the start of the gorge 1131 01:07:21,429 --> 01:07:22,763 known as 'The Deer's Leap' 1132 01:07:22,763 --> 01:07:25,763 because deer were meant to have leapt across it. 1133 01:07:25,763 --> 01:07:29,846 Although the whole river came through a single chute 1134 01:07:29,846 --> 01:07:33,560 at that point, we actually got up with no trouble. 1135 01:07:38,796 --> 01:07:41,712 We went through the gorge, which was quite still water but eerie, 1136 01:07:41,728 --> 01:07:44,895 because it was encased in sheer cliffs 1137 01:07:44,895 --> 01:07:47,386 for a hundred feet or more above. 1138 01:07:47,402 --> 01:07:49,486 (ENGINES HUM) 1139 01:07:53,844 --> 01:07:57,428 At the top of the gorge, we came to a chute, 1140 01:07:58,219 --> 01:08:02,386 and this rapid poured down into a wider part of the river 1141 01:08:02,386 --> 01:08:06,219 that was surging up and down unpredictably. 1142 01:08:06,858 --> 01:08:10,108 It was an incredible boil of water, a very steep tongue, 1143 01:08:10,108 --> 01:08:13,150 but the worst feature was that the force of the water meant 1144 01:08:13,150 --> 01:08:16,662 that sometimes the water below rose right up 1145 01:08:16,677 --> 01:08:19,885 and the chute was not very high a jump. 1146 01:08:20,302 --> 01:08:23,969 At other times, huge holes, boiling holes, 1147 01:08:23,969 --> 01:08:25,211 opened below the chute. 1148 01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,055 And, of course, if you went at the wrong moment, 1149 01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,607 you hit almost a vertical wall of water. 1150 01:08:29,632 --> 01:08:33,132 The bow of the boat would have plunged into the rapid, 1151 01:08:33,132 --> 01:08:35,757 and we would likely have sunk. 1152 01:08:35,895 --> 01:08:38,645 I was thinking that it was certainly a place 1153 01:08:38,645 --> 01:08:40,895 where we could lose a boat. 1154 01:08:44,403 --> 01:08:46,487 You only had to look at the audience. 1155 01:08:46,487 --> 01:08:48,903 To have bothered to come here, miles from anywhere, 1156 01:08:48,903 --> 01:08:50,403 they must have known they were going to see 1157 01:08:50,403 --> 01:08:52,112 something spectacular. 1158 01:08:52,570 --> 01:08:54,653 (TENSE MUSIC) 1159 01:08:56,020 --> 01:08:58,436 So, the Dingle Danger Scale 1160 01:08:59,020 --> 01:09:00,781 had a number of factors. 1161 01:09:00,781 --> 01:09:04,740 If the rapid was particularly remote, 1162 01:09:05,114 --> 01:09:08,031 if they'd had to trek to get there, 1163 01:09:08,056 --> 01:09:10,521 then that was very high 1164 01:09:10,546 --> 01:09:12,989 on the Dingle Danger Scale. 1165 01:09:15,010 --> 01:09:19,802 None of us were really looking forward to being on the boats, 1166 01:09:19,802 --> 01:09:21,789 and so there was... 1167 01:09:21,814 --> 01:09:24,293 a great enthusiasm 1168 01:09:24,309 --> 01:09:27,440 to carry gear 1169 01:09:27,476 --> 01:09:29,559 up the sides 1170 01:09:29,584 --> 01:09:32,809 so that the boats were as light as possible 1171 01:09:32,809 --> 01:09:35,934 and only one person was going to die. 1172 01:09:38,889 --> 01:09:40,556 The angst had been reinforced by the fact 1173 01:09:40,556 --> 01:09:44,389 that it was very similar to a chute in the Clutha River 1174 01:09:44,389 --> 01:09:48,077 in New Zealand where I had, in fact, come to grief. 1175 01:09:50,358 --> 01:09:54,150 I didn't hit any rocks, but I was tossed out of the boat, 1176 01:09:54,150 --> 01:09:57,358 and the boat and I floated back down the river, 1177 01:09:57,358 --> 01:09:59,726 but fortunately I didn't drown. 1178 01:10:00,150 --> 01:10:02,233 (TENSE MUSIC) 1179 01:10:05,610 --> 01:10:09,152 That tended to increase my trepidation, 1180 01:10:09,152 --> 01:10:11,360 and it would have been interesting to measure 1181 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,091 the difference in terror (CHUCKLES) 1182 01:10:14,091 --> 01:10:16,091 between Jon and Mike and me. 1183 01:10:16,091 --> 01:10:19,941 I imagine Jon felt tension but no terror; 1184 01:10:19,965 --> 01:10:24,880 Mike was probably mildly scared, and I was plain petrified. 1185 01:10:25,466 --> 01:10:27,758 MIKE G: And we watched Jon go up first. 1186 01:10:27,758 --> 01:10:30,816 And because the water is changing all the time - 1187 01:10:30,816 --> 01:10:33,525 it's not constant - you just have to sit there 1188 01:10:33,525 --> 01:10:35,316 and judge it, and at some point, 1189 01:10:35,316 --> 01:10:37,064 he has to put his foot on the accelerator 1190 01:10:37,072 --> 01:10:39,405 and just try and leap forward. 1191 01:10:39,405 --> 01:10:41,489 (RAPIDS ROAR) 1192 01:10:42,751 --> 01:10:44,834 (ENGINE RUMBLES) 1193 01:10:47,734 --> 01:10:49,734 Jon hovered for a very long time, 1194 01:10:49,734 --> 01:10:53,526 and then with incredible skill, chose his moment 1195 01:10:53,526 --> 01:10:56,609 and just shot through with virtually no trouble. 1196 01:11:01,865 --> 01:11:05,907 (CHUCKLES) I had to muster my courage somehow, 1197 01:11:05,907 --> 01:11:08,115 and so I comforted myself with the thought that 1198 01:11:08,115 --> 01:11:10,532 I must surely, by now, be undrownable 1199 01:11:10,896 --> 01:11:13,871 because of all the many occasions in the past 1200 01:11:13,871 --> 01:11:15,992 where I'd had every chance of drowning and hadn't. 1201 01:11:16,070 --> 01:11:20,612 It wasn't a complete comfort, and in situations like this, 1202 01:11:20,612 --> 01:11:23,435 my thoughts did go to Ann and the children, and I felt 1203 01:11:23,436 --> 01:11:25,960 it wouldn't be a very good idea to drown. 1204 01:11:26,977 --> 01:11:29,602 I went up and hovered much longer than Jon, 1205 01:11:29,602 --> 01:11:31,269 and the difficulty was 1206 01:11:31,269 --> 01:11:36,144 the water would come up, and it wouldn't stay there long, 1207 01:11:36,795 --> 01:11:38,504 and then it'd go down again. 1208 01:11:38,504 --> 01:11:40,837 I was waiting to make sure it was properly up. 1209 01:11:40,837 --> 01:11:44,110 And when I gunned the boat, it had already started dropping. 1210 01:11:44,664 --> 01:11:48,791 I hit the near vertical wall of water at the wrong angle. 1211 01:11:48,791 --> 01:11:52,920 The boat swerved violently to the right. 1212 01:11:53,291 --> 01:11:55,083 I corrected violently to the left 1213 01:11:55,083 --> 01:11:57,291 and nearly hit the rock on the left 1214 01:11:57,291 --> 01:11:59,624 and swung just in time,... 1215 01:12:01,398 --> 01:12:04,773 I think missing the rock only by inches. 1216 01:12:04,898 --> 01:12:07,482 He got thrown a bit to one side, and then to the other side, 1217 01:12:07,482 --> 01:12:10,078 and we really thought he was actually going to hit a rock 1218 01:12:10,367 --> 01:12:13,659 and be thrown back into that turbulent water, 1219 01:12:13,659 --> 01:12:16,034 which really could have drowned him. 1220 01:12:16,034 --> 01:12:18,701 If I'd hit the rock with the stern of the boat, 1221 01:12:18,701 --> 01:12:22,034 it would undoubtedly have taken the whole jet unit off, 1222 01:12:22,034 --> 01:12:24,104 and I would have lost all control of the boat. 1223 01:12:24,433 --> 01:12:26,392 The boat and I, probably broadside on, would have been 1224 01:12:26,392 --> 01:12:29,892 swept down into the boiling water below. 1225 01:12:30,308 --> 01:12:34,389 And I might have survived, and indeed, since I was a holy man, 1226 01:12:34,397 --> 01:12:36,480 I was undrownable (!) 1227 01:12:40,522 --> 01:12:45,564 And he only missed it by inches but doused me in the process. 1228 01:12:48,113 --> 01:12:50,946 But he just escaped from it and got out the top, 1229 01:12:50,946 --> 01:12:54,186 and we were so pleased. There was a great sigh of relief. 1230 01:12:55,694 --> 01:12:58,819 Mike came up much more proficiently 1231 01:12:59,027 --> 01:13:02,194 but still hit the tongue at the wrong angle 1232 01:13:02,194 --> 01:13:04,152 and did a near repeat of mine, 1233 01:13:04,152 --> 01:13:05,819 but not nearly so close to the rocks. 1234 01:13:05,819 --> 01:13:07,361 So we were all safely through. 1235 01:13:08,014 --> 01:13:11,764 (ENGINE ROARS, ONLOOKERS APPLAUD, CHEER) 1236 01:13:12,100 --> 01:13:14,183 (TRIUMPHANT MUSIC) 1237 01:13:17,391 --> 01:13:22,266 All the way up the gorges, there were huge and increasing crowds 1238 01:13:22,266 --> 01:13:26,933 at all the bad rapids as people came from miles around, 1239 01:13:27,016 --> 01:13:29,850 because the national press and All India Radio 1240 01:13:29,850 --> 01:13:33,943 and, of course, word of mouth had been spreading rumors, 1241 01:13:33,950 --> 01:13:38,200 myths about these magic boats driven by a holy man 1242 01:13:38,908 --> 01:13:41,372 which could fly and overcome any obstacles. 1243 01:13:41,481 --> 01:13:44,148 And they believed that these boats could actually jump up 1244 01:13:44,148 --> 01:13:47,023 in the air, and when they came to an obstacle, a waterfall, 1245 01:13:47,023 --> 01:13:48,801 they could simply jump up it. 1246 01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:52,242 So the combination of the god Vishnu, 1247 01:13:52,242 --> 01:13:54,200 in the form of Edmund Hillary, 1248 01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,912 and these magic boats was irresistible. 1249 01:13:57,583 --> 01:14:00,542 I blame the papers, because (CHUCKLES) 1250 01:14:00,542 --> 01:14:04,583 these Jetboats could leap; they could do backward somersaults. 1251 01:14:04,583 --> 01:14:06,313 These Jetboats could do anything (!) 1252 01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:10,029 We were on the chariots of gods, weren't we? 1253 01:14:10,029 --> 01:14:12,112 (ONLOOKERS CHEER) 1254 01:14:13,487 --> 01:14:15,570 (FESTIVE MUSIC PLAYS) 1255 01:14:17,863 --> 01:14:20,446 (MEN CHANT IN LOCAL LANGUAGE) 1256 01:14:20,446 --> 01:14:22,738 (DRUMS PLAY FESTIVE BEAT) 1257 01:14:26,780 --> 01:14:29,071 (MAN CONTINUES CHANTING) 1258 01:14:35,166 --> 01:14:38,916 This man, clearly with very poor eyesight, 1259 01:14:39,416 --> 01:14:44,640 came up to me and put a garland around my neck and said, 1260 01:14:45,037 --> 01:14:48,040 'You are very great man. 1261 01:14:48,579 --> 01:14:52,204 'What is difference between you and god?' 1262 01:14:53,303 --> 01:14:57,511 I shuffled about from one foot to the other and said, 1263 01:14:57,511 --> 01:14:59,845 'Well, I don't know, mate.' 1264 01:14:59,845 --> 01:15:02,011 (ENGINE TURNS, RUMBLES) 1265 01:15:07,345 --> 01:15:09,428 (LIVELY LOCAL MUSIC) 1266 01:15:20,440 --> 01:15:24,399 We'd survived some pretty bad rapids; we'd driven some others 1267 01:15:24,399 --> 01:15:26,649 with increasing skill, but we were, by this time, 1268 01:15:26,649 --> 01:15:28,149 getting quite weary. 1269 01:15:28,149 --> 01:15:32,815 And we came to a rapid that had huge waves in the middle. 1270 01:15:34,149 --> 01:15:36,232 (SOLEMN MUSIC) 1271 01:15:37,297 --> 01:15:39,922 I, by this stage, hated those big pressure waves, 1272 01:15:39,922 --> 01:15:43,463 and so I tried a route closer to the shore, 1273 01:15:43,838 --> 01:15:46,672 and I got to a place where there was a rock either side 1274 01:15:46,672 --> 01:15:51,005 of a tiny trickle, and I glared at the rock with my yogic powers 1275 01:15:51,005 --> 01:15:55,543 and enlarged the gap ever so slightly and slipped through. 1276 01:16:01,218 --> 01:16:05,510 We were now looking back on about 300km of rather difficult, 1277 01:16:05,510 --> 01:16:08,010 I thought, jetboat driving. 1278 01:16:09,338 --> 01:16:13,005 I guess my main feeling was one of relief that I was still alive 1279 01:16:13,005 --> 01:16:15,505 and that I hadn't sunk a boat. 1280 01:16:19,855 --> 01:16:23,147 What would finally stop us? Would it be a sinking, 1281 01:16:23,147 --> 01:16:25,689 or would it be something where we... 1282 01:16:25,689 --> 01:16:29,387 it was just impossible and we wouldn't even try? 1283 01:16:29,391 --> 01:16:31,308 (ALARMING MUSIC) 1284 01:16:31,308 --> 01:16:33,558 And then we came to a great waterfall 1285 01:16:33,558 --> 01:16:36,350 right across our path, and, yup, 1286 01:16:36,350 --> 01:16:38,919 we knew this was the end for the Jetboats. 1287 01:16:38,927 --> 01:16:40,843 I think somebody must have yelled something out to me, 1288 01:16:40,843 --> 01:16:42,802 'What do you think?' And I just would have gone, 1289 01:16:42,843 --> 01:16:47,718 'There's no way these boats are going to get up here. No.' 1290 01:16:49,177 --> 01:16:51,260 (DRAMATIC MUSIC) 1291 01:16:52,570 --> 01:16:54,653 (MUSIC RISES) 1292 01:17:00,446 --> 01:17:03,237 It was an impenetrable barrier. 1293 01:17:03,904 --> 01:17:05,987 (WATER ROARS, RUMBLES) 1294 01:17:06,987 --> 01:17:09,946 It was pretty obvious what would happen if we'd even, like, 1295 01:17:09,946 --> 01:17:13,837 got the nose of the jetboat anywhere near that waterfall. 1296 01:17:13,837 --> 01:17:15,504 The nose would have dug in, 1297 01:17:15,504 --> 01:17:18,974 and the boat would have been just pushed under. 1298 01:17:18,974 --> 01:17:23,557 To the crowd, however, who had seen the legend of these boats 1299 01:17:23,557 --> 01:17:26,057 growing over some weeks now, 1300 01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:30,310 we were absolute wimps and had totally failed. 1301 01:17:30,310 --> 01:17:33,268 Someone came up to Mike Gill and said to him, 1302 01:17:33,268 --> 01:17:37,810 'Why are you not going on?' And Mike said, 'Well, we can't. 1303 01:17:37,810 --> 01:17:41,143 The Jetboats can't get up a waterfall like that.' 1304 01:17:41,143 --> 01:17:43,228 'That is not true,' he was told. 1305 01:17:43,228 --> 01:17:46,228 'These boats can leap 20ft or 30ft! 1306 01:17:46,561 --> 01:17:49,353 I have seen it with my own eyes!' 1307 01:17:49,936 --> 01:17:52,019 (INTREPID MUSIC) 1308 01:17:52,637 --> 01:17:54,929 The next day in the papers, apparently, 1309 01:17:54,929 --> 01:17:58,554 there were these accusations of us chickening out 1310 01:17:58,554 --> 01:18:02,095 and not being able to move on beyond this. 1311 01:18:02,723 --> 01:18:04,932 The Indian press was disappointed in us, 1312 01:18:04,932 --> 01:18:07,646 because they said we had magic boats. 1313 01:18:07,654 --> 01:18:11,863 Why did these boats not jump up this waterfall ahead of us? 1314 01:18:11,863 --> 01:18:14,321 And they suddenly realised that we were ordinary human beings, 1315 01:18:14,321 --> 01:18:18,779 and we weren't gods, and our boats had limitations. 1316 01:18:19,139 --> 01:18:22,430 I think it was an immense disappointment 1317 01:18:22,430 --> 01:18:24,514 to the people of India. 1318 01:18:26,340 --> 01:18:29,882 We were so ashamed of our inability to... 1319 01:18:30,123 --> 01:18:32,800 perform as expected 1320 01:18:33,248 --> 01:18:36,248 that we crept away with our tail between our legs 1321 01:18:36,248 --> 01:18:38,706 and decided that as penance, 1322 01:18:38,873 --> 01:18:43,748 we would walk the hundred-odd kilometers to Badrinath, 1323 01:18:44,539 --> 01:18:48,498 scorning the easier route of a pilgrim's bus. 1324 01:18:48,563 --> 01:18:50,521 So, mere mortals again, 1325 01:18:50,521 --> 01:18:54,146 no longer holy men, magicians or deities, 1326 01:18:55,434 --> 01:18:59,934 we walked, at first somewhat wearily up the road towards 1327 01:18:59,959 --> 01:19:03,910 Badrinath, one of the holy centers 1328 01:19:03,976 --> 01:19:07,184 at one of the sources of Mother Ganga. 1329 01:19:07,658 --> 01:19:11,825 Right from the very beginning, from Ganga Sagar, we were aware 1330 01:19:11,825 --> 01:19:14,533 that we were doing what every Indian wants to do, 1331 01:19:14,533 --> 01:19:18,554 which is to make a pilgrimage up the length of the Ganga. 1332 01:19:19,235 --> 01:19:20,652 So that was from the beginning, 1333 01:19:20,652 --> 01:19:23,027 and it was just borne in on us more and more, 1334 01:19:23,027 --> 01:19:26,307 and when took off on foot, we left the boats behind, 1335 01:19:26,307 --> 01:19:29,307 we felt even more like pilgrims, because there were 1336 01:19:29,307 --> 01:19:32,891 people alongside us doing the same thing. 1337 01:19:32,891 --> 01:19:34,974 (HOOFS CLIP-CLOP) 1338 01:19:34,974 --> 01:19:37,057 (SERENE MUSIC) 1339 01:19:38,084 --> 01:19:40,168 (FALLS RUMBLE) 1340 01:19:43,459 --> 01:19:45,543 (SOFT, SWEEPING MUSIC) 1341 01:19:51,929 --> 01:19:54,970 En route, we climbed a long series of steps 1342 01:19:54,970 --> 01:19:57,679 up to a lake sacred to the Sikhs. 1343 01:20:00,287 --> 01:20:02,870 (GENTLE, OSCILLATING MUSIC) 1344 01:20:08,296 --> 01:20:12,255 And as we went, we saw many very old people making the pilgrimage 1345 01:20:12,255 --> 01:20:15,838 up there, and Ed was moved to comment that this gave them 1346 01:20:15,838 --> 01:20:20,921 a purpose and a joy in their later life that was very moving. 1347 01:20:21,421 --> 01:20:23,505 (REFLECTIVE MUSIC) 1348 01:20:25,918 --> 01:20:28,001 (MUSIC RISES) 1349 01:20:44,814 --> 01:20:47,314 (HERALDING DRUMBEAT PLAYS) 1350 01:20:55,454 --> 01:20:57,745 (REFLECTIVE MUSIC RISES) 1351 01:21:06,329 --> 01:21:09,245 (HERALDING DRUMBEAT CONTINUES) 1352 01:21:11,620 --> 01:21:13,704 (PEACEFUL MUSIC) 1353 01:21:19,477 --> 01:21:21,935 And so we reached Badrinath. 1354 01:21:23,393 --> 01:21:27,060 We were sort of on pilgrimage, but our main aim, of course, 1355 01:21:27,060 --> 01:21:28,538 was to... 1356 01:21:28,538 --> 01:21:32,080 end the journey from the ocean to the sky. 1357 01:21:32,913 --> 01:21:36,497 And so we started planning on the final stage - 1358 01:21:36,497 --> 01:21:39,288 the ascent of the mountain, to the sky. 1359 01:21:39,288 --> 01:21:41,038 (SUDDEN DRUM MUSIC) 1360 01:21:41,038 --> 01:21:44,719 Akash Parbat was to be the peak, the un-climbed peak, 1361 01:21:44,719 --> 01:21:48,057 that we were heading towards, just below 20,000ft. 1362 01:21:48,323 --> 01:21:49,989 (DRUM MUSIC) 1363 01:21:50,719 --> 01:21:52,719 When we got to the mountains, 1364 01:21:52,719 --> 01:21:55,511 there was this nurturing love around Ed, 1365 01:21:55,511 --> 01:21:59,553 because it was the new Ed, the non-grieving Ed. 1366 01:21:59,626 --> 01:22:01,960 And very much at that point, 1367 01:22:02,067 --> 01:22:06,984 the Graeme Dingles, the Murray Jones, the next generation of, 1368 01:22:06,984 --> 01:22:09,317 'How do we make these decisions in the mountains,' 1369 01:22:09,317 --> 01:22:10,567 that was coming to the fore. 1370 01:22:10,567 --> 01:22:12,589 It looks big, but it's light as a blooming feather. 1371 01:22:12,597 --> 01:22:13,597 All same. 1372 01:22:13,597 --> 01:22:15,597 By golly, we're going to need those cairns, I think. 1373 01:22:15,597 --> 01:22:16,680 Yeah. 1374 01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:18,097 If this cloud keeps building up - 1375 01:22:18,097 --> 01:22:21,013 because it's building up pretty quickly. 1376 01:22:21,013 --> 01:22:23,097 (DAUNTING MUSIC) 1377 01:22:27,456 --> 01:22:30,748 Ed's climbing career in the Himalayas 1378 01:22:30,789 --> 01:22:32,873 had begun in this place. 1379 01:22:34,257 --> 01:22:36,799 Some of us kind of anticipated 1380 01:22:37,507 --> 01:22:42,299 that indeed, this could be the place where it ended too. 1381 01:22:43,858 --> 01:22:48,192 Which brings me to the slightly reckless decision to go 1382 01:22:48,192 --> 01:22:52,858 to altitude without the required time of acclimatization. 1383 01:22:52,858 --> 01:22:56,800 And that had just become one of those, 'It's the schedule,' 1384 01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,717 you know? The schedule took over. 1385 01:22:59,717 --> 01:23:04,050 The expedition had to fulfill its goal, and I think we were 1386 01:23:04,050 --> 01:23:07,280 probably a little bit bulletproof at that point too. 1387 01:23:08,523 --> 01:23:12,648 The next stage was to establish a base camp on the mountain 1388 01:23:12,648 --> 01:23:16,440 at about 15,000ft. And we were in a hurry to get on to this 1389 01:23:16,440 --> 01:23:18,144 and get on up to the summit, 1390 01:23:18,144 --> 01:23:21,186 because we were very worried about the advent of winter. 1391 01:23:21,186 --> 01:23:22,977 It was now getting late in the season, 1392 01:23:22,977 --> 01:23:26,519 and we wanted to get the job over quickly. 1393 01:23:28,248 --> 01:23:31,081 I think time was precious and all of that sort of thing, 1394 01:23:31,081 --> 01:23:35,415 and Ed felt we had to do it in a certain amount of time. 1395 01:23:35,415 --> 01:23:37,581 And I said, 'Ed, we're... 1396 01:23:37,998 --> 01:23:40,081 'going up too fast. 1397 01:23:40,480 --> 01:23:42,860 'And if we keep this up, 1398 01:23:43,480 --> 01:23:45,647 'someone's going to die, 1399 01:23:45,813 --> 01:23:48,438 'and it will probably be you.' 1400 01:23:48,438 --> 01:23:50,522 (DRAMATIC MUSIC) 1401 01:23:51,050 --> 01:23:54,126 Ed might have claimed 1402 01:23:54,175 --> 01:23:56,758 that it was the young climbers pushing him, 1403 01:23:56,758 --> 01:24:00,020 but that's completely untrue. 1404 01:24:00,758 --> 01:24:05,258 All we wanted to do was make sure that he had a safe... 1405 01:24:05,258 --> 01:24:07,341 ascent, 1406 01:24:07,608 --> 01:24:09,900 and a safe ascent means... 1407 01:24:11,150 --> 01:24:14,840 going up about 1000ft a day 1408 01:24:14,999 --> 01:24:17,082 at his time in life. 1409 01:24:20,916 --> 01:24:26,640 And the plan was that we would go up 3000ft a day, 1410 01:24:26,765 --> 01:24:28,848 and it's just too much. 1411 01:24:37,227 --> 01:24:40,435 When the porters dumped their loads off to base camp, 1412 01:24:40,435 --> 01:24:43,810 thankfully, and headed down, they turned to warn us 1413 01:24:43,810 --> 01:24:47,060 that we would be very foolish to go on any further, 1414 01:24:47,060 --> 01:24:50,440 because we were trespassing into the land of the gods, 1415 01:24:50,440 --> 01:24:51,815 and in winter, 1416 01:24:51,815 --> 01:24:56,315 that was territory no mortal could enter unharmed. 1417 01:24:57,728 --> 01:25:00,895 I personally thought from my experience that because 1418 01:25:00,895 --> 01:25:03,020 we'd been going up quite slowly, 1419 01:25:03,020 --> 01:25:07,520 we would all be adequately acclimatized as we went. 1420 01:25:07,663 --> 01:25:10,830 But as we were climbing up, and we'd reached a height 1421 01:25:10,830 --> 01:25:12,913 of, let's say,... 1422 01:25:13,021 --> 01:25:15,646 14,000ft, 15,000ft, Ed said, 1423 01:25:15,730 --> 01:25:17,813 'Well,... 1424 01:25:18,039 --> 01:25:21,448 'I wouldn't mind stopping here, actually.' 1425 01:25:21,737 --> 01:25:24,362 And we didn't take any notice. 1426 01:25:24,445 --> 01:25:26,737 Now, we should have listened to that. 1427 01:25:26,737 --> 01:25:28,987 What height do you reckon it is, Mike? 1428 01:25:28,987 --> 01:25:33,237 - I'd say roughly 15,000. - Do we have the altimeter? 1429 01:25:33,404 --> 01:25:36,782 Ed was quite a bit older than us, and what Ed didn't let on 1430 01:25:36,782 --> 01:25:39,115 was that he'd been suffering from altitude sickness 1431 01:25:39,115 --> 01:25:42,128 at that altitude quite a lot over the previous two years, 1432 01:25:42,128 --> 01:25:45,503 since the death of Louise and Belinda, which was the beginning 1433 01:25:45,503 --> 01:25:50,045 of a very rapid decline in his tolerance of altitude. 1434 01:25:50,222 --> 01:25:55,180 And so we were heading into a disaster without knowing it. 1435 01:25:56,889 --> 01:25:58,972 (LOW, EERIE MUSIC) 1436 01:26:04,453 --> 01:26:06,537 (HAUNTING FLUTE MUSIC) 1437 01:26:13,666 --> 01:26:17,333 Altitude sickness is a ticking time bomb. 1438 01:26:18,874 --> 01:26:20,166 Up where we were climbing, 1439 01:26:20,166 --> 01:26:23,041 there's less than half the oxygen in the air 1440 01:26:23,041 --> 01:26:25,040 that you'd have down at sea level. 1441 01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:28,790 And up here, you risk developing mountain sickness, 1442 01:26:28,790 --> 01:26:33,581 where fluid flows into the lungs and the brain. 1443 01:26:34,235 --> 01:26:38,693 And Ed insisted on carrying as much as the rest of us. 1444 01:26:39,027 --> 01:26:41,777 So the very next day, foolishly, as it turned out, 1445 01:26:41,777 --> 01:26:43,985 we headed on up, this time without porters 1446 01:26:43,985 --> 01:26:47,318 and carrying all the loads ourselves. 1447 01:26:49,484 --> 01:26:53,151 Ed was a prodigious load carrier in his youth, 1448 01:26:53,151 --> 01:26:54,984 and he'd carried by far the heaviest load 1449 01:26:54,984 --> 01:26:56,984 to the high camp on Everest. 1450 01:26:56,984 --> 01:27:00,776 But that was when he was 33, and he was now 57. 1451 01:27:01,276 --> 01:27:03,443 (RISING DRAMATIC MUSIC) 1452 01:27:14,739 --> 01:27:16,822 (PIERCING FLUTE MUSIC) 1453 01:27:21,864 --> 01:27:23,989 (TENSE MUSIC CONTINUES) 1454 01:27:27,546 --> 01:27:31,337 And unfortunately my father had begun to develop 1455 01:27:31,337 --> 01:27:33,712 a condition with altitude. 1456 01:27:34,754 --> 01:27:39,046 Despite his extraordinary performances on Mt Everest 1457 01:27:39,046 --> 01:27:42,966 and other peaks in those early years, because he had gone up 1458 01:27:42,966 --> 01:27:47,341 too quickly on some previous occasions, he had developed 1459 01:27:47,341 --> 01:27:49,514 pulmonary and cerebral oedema. 1460 01:27:49,514 --> 01:27:53,056 And once you've actually developed those conditions, 1461 01:27:53,056 --> 01:27:55,473 you have a higher and higher propensity 1462 01:27:55,473 --> 01:27:56,931 to getting them again. 1463 01:27:56,931 --> 01:28:00,200 So our fairly rapid ascent from Badrinath 1464 01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:04,116 up on to the glacial plateau beneath Akash Parbat 1465 01:28:04,116 --> 01:28:07,783 proved to be one step too far for my father. 1466 01:28:07,783 --> 01:28:09,866 (BREATHES HEAVILY) 1467 01:28:13,251 --> 01:28:14,501 One foot in front of the other. 1468 01:28:14,501 --> 01:28:18,876 And obviously the altitude was not treating him well at all. 1469 01:28:18,876 --> 01:28:23,001 I think we worked out it must be at least 18,000ft. 1470 01:28:23,001 --> 01:28:25,084 He was distressed. 1471 01:28:25,243 --> 01:28:28,909 He was not in a good way. He'd lost his color. 1472 01:28:28,909 --> 01:28:31,618 He was fighting with his breath. 1473 01:28:31,618 --> 01:28:35,201 And he carried really far too heavy a load, 1474 01:28:35,227 --> 01:28:37,311 and we went up too fast. 1475 01:28:37,727 --> 01:28:39,811 And he, and I must say... 1476 01:28:40,186 --> 01:28:41,811 I also, 1477 01:28:41,811 --> 01:28:43,977 were totally exhausted. 1478 01:28:44,769 --> 01:28:46,852 (APPREHENSIVE MUSIC) 1479 01:28:57,973 --> 01:29:00,056 (GENTLE FLUTE MUSIC) 1480 01:29:01,368 --> 01:29:04,493 Ed said he was far more exhausted reaching here 1481 01:29:04,493 --> 01:29:09,576 than he was reaching the summit of Everest. But here he was. 1482 01:29:10,143 --> 01:29:12,851 And beneath his feet lay the greatest, most loved river 1483 01:29:12,851 --> 01:29:16,268 of them all. And he'd led us all that way. 1484 01:29:17,101 --> 01:29:19,268 (HAUNTING GUITAR MUSIC) 1485 01:29:36,043 --> 01:29:39,834 Well, I was woken up about 10 o'clock at night 1486 01:29:40,501 --> 01:29:44,084 by Ed screaming out, saying he wanted Jim. 1487 01:29:44,575 --> 01:29:46,825 And he was obviously in some pain. 1488 01:29:46,825 --> 01:29:48,825 Murray Jones came and shook me awake and said, 1489 01:29:48,825 --> 01:29:50,909 'Look, Ed's... 1490 01:29:50,909 --> 01:29:52,200 wants some help. 1491 01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:55,784 He's complaining he's got a terrible pain in his back.' 1492 01:29:55,784 --> 01:29:57,742 And I thought, 'Well, I suppose it had something to do 1493 01:29:57,742 --> 01:30:00,833 with carrying a load up here,' and I gave him a painkiller. 1494 01:30:00,833 --> 01:30:05,083 And an hour later, he said, 'Yep, that felt better now.' 1495 01:30:05,083 --> 01:30:06,792 But the next morning, we went up, 1496 01:30:06,792 --> 01:30:09,375 and Mingma came to see me and said, 'Go and see Bara Sahib. 1497 01:30:09,375 --> 01:30:12,833 He no... I not happy with Bara Sahib.' 1498 01:30:12,833 --> 01:30:15,875 And I went along there, and Ed was in a stuporous state. 1499 01:30:15,875 --> 01:30:17,848 You could shake him, and he'd say, 'Ahhh. Ahhh.' 1500 01:30:17,848 --> 01:30:20,876 And he clearly was in the early stages of cerebral oedema. 1501 01:30:20,876 --> 01:30:24,293 Fluid on the brain, from high altitude. 1502 01:30:24,803 --> 01:30:26,886 This is... 1503 01:30:26,909 --> 01:30:29,159 a life-threatening illness. 1504 01:30:29,159 --> 01:30:31,034 It can lead to death within 24 hours. 1505 01:30:31,034 --> 01:30:33,784 Dad was sort of lying there slurring his words, 1506 01:30:33,784 --> 01:30:35,787 really not coherent at all. 1507 01:30:35,787 --> 01:30:39,662 He looked like a corpse. He was totally Grey, 1508 01:30:39,745 --> 01:30:44,412 unconscious and didn't look like he was going to live. 1509 01:30:44,655 --> 01:30:46,739 We all loved Ed dearly, 1510 01:30:46,822 --> 01:30:51,020 and we were desperately worried that he was about to die. 1511 01:30:51,541 --> 01:30:55,041 As soon as we realised how serious he was, 1512 01:30:56,333 --> 01:30:59,666 and we knew that he probably didn't have 1513 01:30:59,666 --> 01:31:04,499 more than 60 minutes to live, we just collapsed the tent. 1514 01:31:04,588 --> 01:31:08,922 Wrapped him like a cocoon in ropes - climbing ropes. 1515 01:31:08,922 --> 01:31:13,838 Tied ropes on each end and dragged him across the plateau 1516 01:31:14,005 --> 01:31:16,755 and then started lowering him, 1517 01:31:16,755 --> 01:31:19,755 just bundled up in the tent fabric. 1518 01:31:20,476 --> 01:31:25,101 Without really any verbal communication between us, 1519 01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:28,072 we acted as if we were separate limbs 1520 01:31:28,072 --> 01:31:30,155 but operating by a... 1521 01:31:30,874 --> 01:31:32,957 single brain. 1522 01:31:33,207 --> 01:31:36,291 We simply collapsed the tent around Ed, 1523 01:31:36,291 --> 01:31:40,340 wrapped him up in the tent, still on his air mattress, 1524 01:31:40,340 --> 01:31:44,382 tied ropes to the tent and started dragging him 1525 01:31:44,424 --> 01:31:46,924 as fast as we could across the gentle slopes 1526 01:31:46,924 --> 01:31:48,581 of the snow plateau. 1527 01:31:48,581 --> 01:31:53,789 Because the only possible cure for high-altitude sickness 1528 01:31:53,955 --> 01:31:57,205 is to get down to thick air and more oxygen. 1529 01:31:57,205 --> 01:32:00,353 And we just started dragging him across the glacier 1530 01:32:00,353 --> 01:32:03,978 to get down to lower elevations. And I just remember, 1531 01:32:03,978 --> 01:32:08,311 as with the other members of the team, just straining on a rope 1532 01:32:08,311 --> 01:32:11,686 out in front, knowing that if I could do anything, 1533 01:32:11,686 --> 01:32:14,145 I would pull as hard as I could 1534 01:32:14,194 --> 01:32:16,944 to expedite this and get my father down. 1535 01:32:16,944 --> 01:32:22,361 And foremost in my mind was the fact that just two years before, 1536 01:32:22,468 --> 01:32:26,135 I'd lost my mother and sister in an air crash in Nepal. 1537 01:32:26,135 --> 01:32:30,385 Here I was high in the Himalayas, again, in India. 1538 01:32:30,551 --> 01:32:33,676 Was I about to lose my father as well? 1539 01:32:37,278 --> 01:32:41,403 People loved Ed. There was this very powerful emotion 1540 01:32:41,403 --> 01:32:44,480 that drove us on to do everything we could. 1541 01:32:44,628 --> 01:32:48,795 Peter was particularly worried, as you could well imagine, 1542 01:32:48,795 --> 01:32:51,933 and he was pulling like a great draught horse out in front. 1543 01:32:51,933 --> 01:32:53,183 And he was so worried 1544 01:32:53,183 --> 01:32:57,600 that he went over the lip of the snow plateau 1545 01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:00,789 and on to a very steep snow slope we had ascended. 1546 01:33:00,789 --> 01:33:02,580 The rest of us realised what we were doing 1547 01:33:02,580 --> 01:33:05,164 and circled round behind and, instead of pulling, 1548 01:33:05,164 --> 01:33:08,330 started belaying. And at one stage, poor Peter 1549 01:33:08,330 --> 01:33:11,764 was pulling not only Ed but all the rest of the team. 1550 01:33:12,006 --> 01:33:15,715 And we just dropped down off the side of the mountain, 1551 01:33:15,715 --> 01:33:18,631 descending on the shortest line possible, 1552 01:33:18,631 --> 01:33:20,880 which is the most direct line down. 1553 01:33:21,263 --> 01:33:24,805 As soon as we got on to really steep stuff, 1554 01:33:24,847 --> 01:33:26,763 most of the team gathered round, 1555 01:33:26,763 --> 01:33:29,055 guiding what you could call a sled, 1556 01:33:29,055 --> 01:33:31,263 but it was the tent with Ed wrapped up in it, 1557 01:33:31,263 --> 01:33:33,346 and Ding and I at the back 1558 01:33:33,554 --> 01:33:35,429 were finding whatever belays we could - 1559 01:33:35,429 --> 01:33:37,054 sometimes hopping into crevasses, 1560 01:33:37,054 --> 01:33:38,649 sometimes getting good shaft belays. 1561 01:33:38,899 --> 01:33:41,691 Everyone was working absolutely 1562 01:33:41,691 --> 01:33:44,816 as this incredibly rehearsed team. 1563 01:33:45,233 --> 01:33:49,108 It was like we had rehearsed this moment for all our lives. 1564 01:33:49,108 --> 01:33:53,149 And we were taking Ed down vertical ice slopes, 1565 01:33:53,930 --> 01:33:57,055 down through rock... rock gullies. 1566 01:33:57,358 --> 01:33:58,941 I've never seen such determination 1567 01:33:58,941 --> 01:34:01,691 in a group of people to achieve- 1568 01:34:01,824 --> 01:34:05,241 put every ounce of their strength and will 1569 01:34:05,241 --> 01:34:08,546 into getting Ed down to a lower point where he would recover. 1570 01:34:08,648 --> 01:34:10,731 We dropped really fast. 1571 01:34:10,856 --> 01:34:12,940 I think we lowered him 1572 01:34:13,954 --> 01:34:16,037 about 3000ft 1573 01:34:16,662 --> 01:34:19,412 in not much more than 60 minutes. 1574 01:34:20,234 --> 01:34:23,526 We didn't film at all. Our total focus was on Ed 1575 01:34:23,526 --> 01:34:27,950 and our chosen task, and mine was to carry all the extra gear. 1576 01:34:28,185 --> 01:34:31,477 Here's Mike with an enormous pack on his back, 1577 01:34:31,477 --> 01:34:35,644 teetering on precarious crampons right above. 1578 01:34:35,655 --> 01:34:38,322 Had he come off, he and the camp would possibly have swept 1579 01:34:38,322 --> 01:34:40,345 the lot of us off, although I'm sure Ding's and my belays 1580 01:34:40,345 --> 01:34:41,578 would have held. 1581 01:34:42,055 --> 01:34:46,139 Mike made it backwards down this incredible icy... 1582 01:34:46,139 --> 01:34:49,805 it was near vertical icy slope towards us. 1583 01:34:50,264 --> 01:34:55,139 But somehow I managed to cling on, and I guess we were just 1584 01:34:55,239 --> 01:34:57,625 so utterly determined that absolutely none of us 1585 01:34:57,625 --> 01:34:59,625 would die today. 1586 01:34:59,625 --> 01:35:01,708 So when we got 1587 01:35:01,708 --> 01:35:03,791 to the end of the snow, 1588 01:35:04,496 --> 01:35:08,038 we couldn't drag him any longer, of course. 1589 01:35:08,038 --> 01:35:13,454 So I rather foolishly said, 'I think I can probably carry him,' 1590 01:35:13,635 --> 01:35:17,219 which was a bit crazy, because I was 10 stone, 1591 01:35:17,219 --> 01:35:19,302 and he was 18 stone. 1592 01:35:20,551 --> 01:35:23,092 But I contrived a rope harness 1593 01:35:24,838 --> 01:35:26,922 and got him on to my back 1594 01:35:27,505 --> 01:35:29,672 with the help of my mates. 1595 01:35:30,088 --> 01:35:33,213 And we were kind of tottering along. 1596 01:35:33,275 --> 01:35:35,150 And we carried him - took turns carrying him - 1597 01:35:35,150 --> 01:35:37,233 and he was a heavy load. 1598 01:35:38,691 --> 01:35:40,108 It was tough going. 1599 01:35:40,108 --> 01:35:43,358 Ed, apparently unconscious on my back, 1600 01:35:43,358 --> 01:35:46,935 and his head lolling around by my shoulder. 1601 01:35:47,037 --> 01:35:49,246 Ed was no lightweight in those days, 1602 01:35:49,246 --> 01:35:53,329 and as he struggled down, supported on either side, 1603 01:35:53,329 --> 01:35:56,610 Ding said, 'Jeez, you're a heavy bastard, Ed!' 1604 01:35:56,735 --> 01:35:58,485 And a voice came up from what we thought 1605 01:35:58,485 --> 01:36:00,934 was a comatose corpse on his back. 1606 01:36:01,238 --> 01:36:03,321 And he suddenly said, 1607 01:36:04,446 --> 01:36:06,530 "12 stone 5," 1608 01:36:07,598 --> 01:36:13,260 which was exactly his weight when he climbed Everest in 1953. 1609 01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:17,640 We all laughed and knew he was going to survive. 1610 01:36:19,778 --> 01:36:23,195 The fact that Ed could respond like this to Ding's barb 1611 01:36:23,195 --> 01:36:26,070 gave us real hope that the real Ed was still there 1612 01:36:26,070 --> 01:36:27,583 and was recovering. 1613 01:36:27,583 --> 01:36:33,675 Murray Jones, immediately after Mike Gill's announcement, 1614 01:36:33,917 --> 01:36:38,250 shot off back to Badrinath and managed to get a phone contact. 1615 01:36:38,250 --> 01:36:42,292 And I think the words 'Ed is dying' got through. 1616 01:36:43,856 --> 01:36:48,440 It was quite amazing the reaction of the Indian army, 1617 01:36:48,923 --> 01:36:53,756 who just wanted to help, because it was Sir Edmund Hillary. 1618 01:36:53,756 --> 01:36:56,786 And when I asked for one helicopter, they sent two! 1619 01:36:56,786 --> 01:36:58,869 I was quite impressed. 1620 01:36:59,036 --> 01:37:01,203 But unfortunately, the cloud cover was coming in, 1621 01:37:01,203 --> 01:37:03,119 and we could hear the helicopters - 1622 01:37:03,119 --> 01:37:05,244 woomph, woomph, woomph - overhead. 1623 01:37:05,244 --> 01:37:09,092 But we couldn't see them, and they couldn't see us, of course. 1624 01:37:09,092 --> 01:37:12,092 So eventually, Peter went on ahead to base camp 1625 01:37:12,092 --> 01:37:16,640 and brought back a tent and some bedding for Ed 1626 01:37:16,729 --> 01:37:20,270 and the most essential thing, a tin of Wattie's canned peaches, 1627 01:37:20,270 --> 01:37:22,157 which was Ed's favourite food. 1628 01:37:22,415 --> 01:37:24,457 It did reach a point where he was saying, 1629 01:37:24,457 --> 01:37:25,999 'Well, I'm feeling quite a bit better now.' 1630 01:37:25,999 --> 01:37:30,249 So we could put him down, gave him a rest, and slowly 1631 01:37:30,249 --> 01:37:32,988 we could walk with him, supported on either side. 1632 01:37:32,988 --> 01:37:35,238 And we knew we were out of it by then. 1633 01:37:35,268 --> 01:37:39,727 Cos it's a very short-lived thing once you get down. 1634 01:37:40,936 --> 01:37:43,644 But he could have died up there. 1635 01:37:44,956 --> 01:37:48,706 We pitched a tent and all clambered inside, 1636 01:37:49,165 --> 01:37:51,248 and, um, the... 1637 01:37:51,665 --> 01:37:53,748 the sense of team 1638 01:37:54,498 --> 01:37:56,581 and warmth and... 1639 01:37:57,046 --> 01:38:01,088 thankfulness was just overwhelming, really. 1640 01:38:02,004 --> 01:38:04,088 It was a lovely time. 1641 01:38:04,354 --> 01:38:07,562 And the mood now was almost euphoric. 1642 01:38:07,812 --> 01:38:09,812 Ed was... 1643 01:38:09,812 --> 01:38:12,146 He was talking to us, laughing with us. 1644 01:38:12,146 --> 01:38:15,997 He was eating canned peaches. We knew that he was alive. 1645 01:38:16,341 --> 01:38:18,633 Suddenly, he's got a smile on his face, 1646 01:38:18,633 --> 01:38:20,928 a little bit of color in his cheeks, 1647 01:38:20,928 --> 01:38:22,886 And he's enjoying a little bit of humor. 1648 01:38:22,886 --> 01:38:27,345 And I think the thing that really told me he was back, 1649 01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:32,303 he was going to be OK, was someone produced a large can 1650 01:38:32,386 --> 01:38:35,348 of New Zealand Wattie's canned peaches, 1651 01:38:35,348 --> 01:38:38,598 and he really enjoyed eating those, and I thought, 1652 01:38:38,598 --> 01:38:40,682 'He's going to be OK.' 1653 01:38:40,807 --> 01:38:44,720 Pete Hillary, at one stage, said to me, 1654 01:38:44,807 --> 01:38:47,557 he said, 'God, for a horrible moment then, 1655 01:38:47,557 --> 01:38:52,432 'I thought I'd see my whole family die in the Himalayas.' 1656 01:38:53,407 --> 01:38:56,657 It must have been pretty close, you know. 1657 01:38:56,657 --> 01:38:59,157 That form of oedema can just- 1658 01:38:59,366 --> 01:39:04,032 can take out the strongest people very, very quickly. 1659 01:39:04,032 --> 01:39:05,979 (RISING MUSIC) 1660 01:39:06,027 --> 01:39:07,985 By morning, Murray was back 1661 01:39:07,985 --> 01:39:10,860 after climbing up through the night with oxygen for Ed. 1662 01:39:10,860 --> 01:39:15,194 And then we heard the joyous shouts of Indian mountain troops 1663 01:39:15,194 --> 01:39:16,884 who'd also come up to help. 1664 01:39:16,884 --> 01:39:19,801 And then we heard the helicopter. 1665 01:39:19,843 --> 01:39:22,009 I think we were just so moved that India, 1666 01:39:22,009 --> 01:39:24,676 who'd taken our expedition so to heart, 1667 01:39:24,676 --> 01:39:26,926 was right here with us now. 1668 01:39:27,593 --> 01:39:29,676 (HAUNTING FLUTE MUSIC) 1669 01:39:30,667 --> 01:39:34,000 We had no trouble getting Ed down to this much better 1670 01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:35,875 helicopter landing place. 1671 01:39:35,875 --> 01:39:38,667 The helicopter landed still on full power. 1672 01:39:38,667 --> 01:39:41,958 So there was a horrendous noise, wind. 1673 01:39:42,292 --> 01:39:46,500 And Mike Gill assisted Ed. They got into the helicopter. 1674 01:39:46,500 --> 01:39:50,041 And Mike and Ed ducked under the rotor blades, 1675 01:39:50,041 --> 01:39:55,208 hopped into the helicopter and disappeared from our sight. 1676 01:39:55,208 --> 01:39:59,375 And then there was absolute, complete silence. 1677 01:40:01,113 --> 01:40:04,488 And we were just- Everyone stood around. 1678 01:40:04,488 --> 01:40:06,571 And then one by one, 1679 01:40:07,196 --> 01:40:09,613 people just collapsed in a heap 1680 01:40:09,613 --> 01:40:11,696 and wept - 1681 01:40:13,162 --> 01:40:15,537 just wept their hearts out. 1682 01:40:16,787 --> 01:40:18,870 It was extraordinary. 1683 01:40:19,412 --> 01:40:21,495 It had been, what, 1684 01:40:21,662 --> 01:40:24,162 two and a half days of just... 1685 01:40:25,029 --> 01:40:28,154 It felt like a knife-edge, you know? 1686 01:40:28,821 --> 01:40:30,904 Mm. Extraordinary. 1687 01:40:36,335 --> 01:40:38,418 (GASPS, EXHALES) 1688 01:40:42,002 --> 01:40:44,085 (SOLEMN MUSIC) 1689 01:40:48,485 --> 01:40:50,569 The rest of us wept - 1690 01:40:51,527 --> 01:40:56,902 with relief and joy, because the tension had been incredible. 1691 01:40:56,910 --> 01:41:00,118 And then we slapped each other on the back, and then we... 1692 01:41:00,118 --> 01:41:01,576 we regrouped. 1693 01:41:01,576 --> 01:41:04,368 And we thought, 'Well, what Ed would want us to do 1694 01:41:04,368 --> 01:41:07,910 'is to make sure we get back up to the sky.' 1695 01:41:08,938 --> 01:41:14,146 Really, for Dad, we need to turn our attentions back up there 1696 01:41:14,391 --> 01:41:19,391 and go and complete our journey, from the ocean to the sky. 1697 01:41:19,391 --> 01:41:21,557 (RISING DRAMATIC MUSIC) 1698 01:41:21,766 --> 01:41:23,849 So that's what we did. 1699 01:41:24,974 --> 01:41:27,682 (MAJESTIC, TRIUMPHANT MUSIC) 1700 01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:38,652 And we were certainly doing it for Ed. 1701 01:41:38,652 --> 01:41:42,860 We climbed a lovely snow dome above the high camp, 1702 01:41:42,922 --> 01:41:46,630 which we named Akash Parbat - Sky Mountain. 1703 01:41:47,464 --> 01:41:49,630 (MAJESTIC MUSIC BUILDS) 1704 01:41:49,630 --> 01:41:51,714 And Ed got his wish. 1705 01:41:51,797 --> 01:41:53,880 We did touch the sky. 1706 01:41:55,050 --> 01:42:00,167 (MUSIC CRESCENDOS, QUIETENS) 1707 01:42:05,259 --> 01:42:07,342 (SERENE MUSIC) 1708 01:42:13,175 --> 01:42:18,384 Dad fully recovered. In fact, he lived for another 30 years. 1709 01:42:19,384 --> 01:42:21,384 He married a family friend, June, 1710 01:42:21,384 --> 01:42:25,092 who'd also lost her partner in an air crash. 1711 01:42:30,168 --> 01:42:32,459 (BAND PLAYS 'GOD DEFEND NEW ZEALAND') 1712 01:42:32,459 --> 01:42:37,126 He became the New Zealand High Commissioner to India. 1713 01:42:37,126 --> 01:42:40,459 ('GOD DEFEND NEW ZEALAND' CONTINUES) 1714 01:42:48,376 --> 01:42:52,043 (CHILDREN SING, CHANT IN LOCAL LANGUAGE) 1715 01:42:53,922 --> 01:42:56,880 And for decades more, he carried on his work 1716 01:42:56,880 --> 01:42:59,172 with his beloved Sherpas, 1717 01:43:00,047 --> 01:43:02,339 building over 30 schools. 1718 01:43:02,339 --> 01:43:04,214 (CHILDREN CONTINUE SINGING) 1719 01:43:04,214 --> 01:43:06,505 (SINGS IN LOCAL LANGUAGE) 1720 01:43:08,539 --> 01:43:10,623 (HAUNTING VOCAL MUSIC) 1721 01:43:11,248 --> 01:43:14,539 PETER: And he went back to the Ganga... 1722 01:43:16,289 --> 01:43:20,039 with Mike Gill and Jim Wilson and their kids 1723 01:43:20,623 --> 01:43:24,664 to give them a taste of the beauty we'd all seen. 1724 01:43:27,066 --> 01:43:29,108 And, yes, if anyone ever asked, 1725 01:43:29,108 --> 01:43:33,483 'What was your favourite expedition,' we'd always say, 1726 01:43:33,483 --> 01:43:37,524 'It was the time we went by jetboat up the Ganga. 1727 01:43:40,733 --> 01:43:44,108 That was the best journey of them all.' 1728 01:43:45,441 --> 01:43:47,483 (ENGINES BUZZ, RUMBLE) 1729 01:43:49,447 --> 01:43:51,780 (IMPASSIONED VOCAL MUSIC) 1730 01:44:07,317 --> 01:44:09,400 (GENTLE SITAR MUSIC) 1731 01:44:53,702 --> 01:44:56,536 (GENTLE SITAR MUSIC CONTINUES) 1732 01:45:15,915 --> 01:45:17,998 (TENDER PIANO MUSIC) 1733 01:45:37,626 --> 01:45:39,709 (SOLEMN, GENTLE MUSIC) 1734 01:45:49,809 --> 01:45:53,580 (POIGNANT CELTIC MUSIC) 131965

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