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This was a moment 30 years
in the making.
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For Liverpool, the wait..
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...is over!
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Champions of England again!
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Liverpool had been relentless
in their quest to return to the top
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of the English game.
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Firmino. Brilliant!
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Salah. That is simply awesome!
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And masterminding their return...
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A brilliant manager
in a mould all of his own.
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I'm the normal one,
maybe if you want this.
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I couldn't be more proud
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on the way we did it.
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Being so patient for 30 years.
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Roberto Firmino!
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Mane!
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The style of footballjurgen Klopp
has implemented
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has been breathtaking.
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Salah charges towards him...
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...and scores!
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I always said from the first
interview, I want to win
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the Premier League with this club.
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They were saying crazy
but, yeah, we did it.
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For three long decades,
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Liverpool fans have watched on
in agony as others
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took their perch and revelled in it.
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And despite winning ten cups
in that time, it was always
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the league that mattered most.
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Even when you win the Champions
League there were people
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that told us winning the league
would have meant more.
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You don't find a club where
you will hear that, actually,
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apart from Liverpool.
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It mattered because, alongside
the highs of the '70s and '80s,
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there were also tragedies,
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dark days, which created a unique
bond between the club and its fans.
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The people have got special
strength about them
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to overcome the bad events.
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The passion that you saw on
the field is a direct result
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of who our supporters are.
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I think the personality of this team
is a never—say—die attitude,
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who are willing to fight for each
other right until the very end.
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This is the story of
Liverpool's long road back
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to the summit of English football...
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You ask there and I look there.
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...told by the people who helped
shape the club we see today.
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OK, ready?
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It's ready.
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SNAP!
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CHEERING AND CHANTING
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Liverpool are the champions
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and the gladiators applaud the
crowd.
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I'm not going to tell you why
they're going to win,
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because they're going to win
because they're the greatest.
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Champions! Champions!
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I don't think Liverpool
would be where we are today,
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except for Bill Shankly.
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As soon as he opens his mouth,
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it's pure heaven.
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Well, I think that if a manager
is honest,
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he can't go into the field
with the players.
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He can convey it to the players.
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He's with them and they're with him,
and they'll be successful.
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There was something about this guy
that clicked with Liverpool.
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And the cup belongs to Liverpool!
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Shankly created a famous boot room
culture which not only brought
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success, but also
a template for succession.
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It's the people that make it,
really, there's no magic.
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No, there's no magic.
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When Shanks retired,
Bob Paisley took over.
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Bob was a bit of a mumbler.
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He's a bit hard to understand,
I would think, in team meetings
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and the like, isn't he? Pardon?
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He's a bit hard... LAUGHTER
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The Kop's spilling
onto the pitch to celebrate
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the victory and the championship.
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Have you any more ambitions
left in this game?
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Yeah. Win it next year.
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The teams of the '70s and the '80s
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were absolutely phenomenal.
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They were like a machine.
They were winning everything.
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Liverpool have retained the
Football League championship.
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42 league games,
that's what it's all about.
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Cup competitions — one-off things,
really, aren't they?
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But win the league,
that's what football's all about.
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Liverpool are European champions!
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You can mention the word
Europeanite, and I think
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90% of football supporters in
the world would think Liverpool.
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It's business
as usual for Liverpool,
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the most successful club
in the history of British football.
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Joe Fagan had the drop.
Your first year in charge,
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and two trophies on the shelf
already.
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Incredible.
I don't know how it's happened.
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Don't ask me.
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The sheer scale of Liverpool's
dominance dwarfed anything
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that had been seen previously
in England.
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Liverpool were the powerhouse
of English football, winning 11
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league titles in 18 years, as well
as conquering Europe four times.
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# Welcome to the Pleasuredome! #
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It was in pursuit of a fifth
European Cup that Liverpool endured
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one of its darkest days.
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For the last 50 minutes,
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the Heysel Stadium in Brussels,
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the capital of Belgium,
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has been a sickening
and bewildering sight.
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We go on the pitch and they're
throwing missiles at us,
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the Juventus supporters.
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So I picked one up, and I remember
saying to Alan Kennedy,
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"Nobody brings that
into the stadium."
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And he says, "That is the stadium."
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Some Liverpool supporters
moved into the Juventus area.
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You can see the Juventus supporters
trying to get over the wall
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to our right and down towards
the running track.
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And it was the pressure of movement
down towards the running track
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which resulted in the wall
giving way.
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The first thing that needs
to be said is that Liverpool fans
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need to accept the blame for a lot
of what happened that day.
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There were many reasons for Heysel...
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The stadium was shambles,
the police were completely inept.
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I was watching it on
the television and thinking...
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...this can't be happening.
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And the terrible feeling of...
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...responsibility.
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And Liverpool's run of
success in European Cup finals
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comes to an end.
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But this is not a night
when football will be remembered.
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There were no guidelines
on how to recover
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from such a disaster.
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This was football's latest hooligan
incident and it led to all English
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clubs being banned from Europe.
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It was a sad end for retiring
manager joe Fagan.
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The club needed a lift, so Fagan's
successor wasn't from the boot room,
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as was tradition,
but the dressing room.
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It was Liverpool's star player...
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...Kenny Dalglish.
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Sledgehammer by Peter Gabriel
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He is through!
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Kenny Dalglish!
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That is absolutely
outstanding finishing!
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Kenny came in and, all of a sudden,
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we started to do a little bit
about team shape.
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We did a little bit about
with the ball, without the ball.
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Kenny, by that time,
was, as he is now,
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forever part of the fabric
of this place.
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And he knew what people wanted.
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He knew what the people
expected of the players.
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And he just changed it because
that's what he believed in.
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But it wasn't a massive change.
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In many ways, it was a good change
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because it kind of changed
with the times.
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In his first season
as player-manager,
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Kenny led Liverpool to the double,
even scoring the goal
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that sealed the title.
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And Dalglish is in here!
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Yes!
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The player-manager scores the goal
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that may edge Liverpool nearer
to their 16th championship!
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# Feel the heat... #
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I'd been at Watford for six years.
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Lovely skill.
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What a magnificent goal!
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I was playing for England.
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I was doing well. But Graham Taylor
said to me, at a very young age,
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I'll tell you when it's time to go
and I'll tell you
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where you should be going.
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So when Liverpool came in, he said
to me, "Liverpool have come in,
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"that's the club for you.
You're going to Liverpool."
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# Get funky now... #
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It's been made very easy for myself,
Peter Beardsley, Ray Houghton.
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Any of the new players who have come
in, it's just been made easy for us.
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Enola Gay by ELO
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john Barnes joined Peter Beardsley
and john Aldridge in Liverpool's
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new front line
for the '87-'88 season.
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They played scintillating football.
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Oh, look at Barnes here!
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They're waiting for
the full-back, Beardsley!
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0h!
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Aldridge is there! Aldridge!
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I mean, the wonder
of watching John Barnes.
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He was just extraordinary.
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Oh, Barnes has won it.
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He won it from Brock.
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He's got Beardsley going to his
left, it's still Barnes!
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That's a fabulous indefensible goal!
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The biggest figure in the culture
of the city was John Barnes,
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a proud black man from Jamaica.
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It broke down a load of barriers.
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Those few years were just amazing.
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Yeah, we were very spoilt.
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Liverpool cruised to the title,
winning it by nine points.
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Both on and off the pitch,
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the team were really on-song.
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# Liverpool FC is as hard as hell
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# United, Tottenham, Arsenal
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# Watched my lips
and I will spell
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# Cos they don't just play
but they can rap as well! #
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Every time there was a cup final,
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there was a song, and we wanted
to do something different,
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so we used it as an excuse
to go to a nightclub
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called Quadrant Park
dressed up as rappers.
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Is this the real john Barnes we're
seeing? This is the real
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John Barnes. I was a bit
conservative when I first came
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to Liverpool but this is me now.
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So we're there from 12 o'clock.
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And by the time we're just about
finishing it, it was opening
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to the public because it's a rave
club. So because we're dressed
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like that, we said we might as well
stay and enjoy ourselves.
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So we stayed and, you know, some
people went home, some people
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stayed at the club. And, of course,
with all the alcohol there,
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we enjoyed ourselves thoroughly.
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Even Kenny was on the video.
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He just went, "Oh, as if,"
and the song wasn't great.
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It stunk. And that's all you could
get Kenny to do.
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We wanted Kenny to be involved.
But Kenny was going,
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"No, I'm not going there."
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I think they should stick to
playing football. Terrible!
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What do you think, Kenny?
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Oh, yeah!
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Liverpool had wrapped up
the title and rapped their way
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to chart success.
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Now they just needed an FA Cup
to create a unique treble.
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Sanchez was in there!
And that's a goal for Wimbledon!
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The Crazy Gang have beaten
the Culture Club!
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As giant killings go, this was a big
one, but the following season,
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Liverpool did what they always did...
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Dusted themselves down
and started again.
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It was the season no-one
will ever forget.
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One that changed Liverpool —
Both club and city — forever.
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In the history of Liverpool...
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...Hillsborough...
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...is unfortunately
an important date.
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That day, 96 people die.
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People from Liverpool suffered,
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they were hurt.
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It's difficult to explain to people.
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You go out and you go to a football
match and it's supposed to be...
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It's supposed to be fun.
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The first inclination I got
was two guys come on the pitch
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and I go to them.
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I say, "You'll get us
in trouble here,"
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and the guy looked at me,
and he says...
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You could tell the sadness
in his eyes —
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He wasn't making it up. He says,
"Al, there's people dying in there."
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And there are fans on the pitch
here in the six-yard area.
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The referee's going to
have to stop the game.
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There's an overflow behind the goal.
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And the police inspector's
on the pitch.
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The only time I was aware
there was a problem,
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I've seen people pushed up
against the fence and they looked
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so uncomfortable and I was,
like, that doesn't look right.
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Memories, of, you know, trying to
pull people up to the other layer,
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and fans putting bodies
onto hoardings
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and running across
the pitch with them.
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Just.“
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...transfixed, really,
by the horror of it all.
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It's been a black day for football
on a sunny afternoon
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at Hillsborough, Sheffield.
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No fewer than 93 football
supporters died.
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On a day of such momentous tragedy,
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our sympathies go to the families
of those concerned.
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My son, who died at Hillsborough,
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he was a keen Liverpool supporter.
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It's the worst kind of grief
that anyone can go through,
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is to lose a child.
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We all thought about,
what's the point?
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What's the point of going
to a football match if things
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like that are going to happen?
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A lot of us thought about possibly
packing up, doing something else.
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I think it had an enormous effect
on the club and on individuals...
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Particularly on Kenny, I think.
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Kenny's face was...
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I can always see it, just the grief
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in his face. And he's carried
that responsibility.
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I think he went to every funeral.
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He had to be like a social worker.
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He wasn't trained for that.
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For Kenny, personally,
we owe a great debt...
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...because he was so comforting
to all the families.
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It was quite a scary moment when you
know that these people whose loved
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ones had gone to a football match
and are now dead — and this is,
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I don't know, two weeks later,
probably not even that,
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where they're going to come.
Cos if that was me,
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I wouldn't want to go
to a football stadium.
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I thought... I still get
emotional thinking of it.
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I thought it wasn't my place
to meet Kenny.
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It was my son's place
to have met Kenny.
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It wasn't my... my place.
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I didn't go to the football.
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James did.
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And I just felt very guilty.
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I just wanted my son
to have met Kenny.
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And so many of them were coming
into the players' lounge
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and they were going,
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"| can't believe that I'm here with
Kenny Dalglish and John Barnes,"
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and, whoever they lost, "If they
could see me now in the lounge
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"with my heroes,
they would just be loving it."
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And that showed how much
their club means to them.
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That really made a huge impression
on my understanding,
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which I already had after a year,
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of the relationship between
the club and the fans.
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I often wonder,
what support did THEY get?
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They were giving it to us,
but what support did THEY get?
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I went to the cup final just shortly
afterwards and it seemed so right
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that we were playing Everton.
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Obviously it is a cup
final, but no doubt the players,
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too, are keenly aware of
the circumstances of this
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particular match, which they're
now walking out to play.
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It was fitting that it was
a Merseyside cup final,
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because, don't forget, Evertonians
would have lost brothers and cousins
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and loved ones in that, as well.
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What was great about it is it was
a coming together of the city.
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It was a very, very emotional day.
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In memory of the victims
of the Hillsborough disaster...
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There was a minute's
silence before the game
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and I couldn't handle it.
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I went downstairs and basically
stood in the toilets.
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I'd rather do my crying
there than upstairs.
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McMahon. Barnes.
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Rush!
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Goa“.
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3-2, Liverpool.
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Ian Rush gets his second.
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And this now becomes one of the most
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dramatic FA Cup finals
of recent times.
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So much emotion, joy and sorrow.
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I mean, just... an extraordinary day.
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And Liverpool have won the FA Cup,
the first leg of the double
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and perhaps softened the pain that
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so many of their supports have been
through recently.
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And in a fine, dramatic final,
surely lifted the spirits
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of a whole city...
and of the game of football.
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I always believed that that should
have been the year
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that the FA Cup wasn't played for.
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I thought it'd be nice
as a legacy for the 96,
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but now I think back
and reflect on it all,
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yeah, it was good for
the fans, maybe.
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Good for the city.
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Just six days after having won
the cup, Liverpool played Arsenal
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at Anfield,
hoping to win the double.
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All they needed to do was avoid
losing by more than one goal.
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And Thomas goes inside Nicol!
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And Thomas is there!
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And Thomas has scored for Arsenal!
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And Arsenal have won the
Championship here at Anfield.
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On the Kop that night, when it went
in, there was shock and then
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someone — a voice further back —
Just said,
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"You know what?
Worse things happen."
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It was one of those strange things.
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It was a moment that
broke the misery,
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broke the depth of misery.
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# ..with hope in your heart
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# And you'll never walk alone... #
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It had been the most turbulent of
seasons, but the supporters now
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had a bigger battle to deal with...
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The truth of what happened at
Hillsborough had yet to be told.
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It was a fight that
would last decades.
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It's not unusual
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in the history of Liverpool
for its people to become
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folk devils, for the media to
exaggerate and, frankly,
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lie about their behaviour.
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Well, we all know it was a...
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SHE CLEARS HER THROAT
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There's a certain newspaper
that we'll never forgive
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and to have them headlines that
your fans urinated on the dead,
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robbed the dead, kicked the police
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when they were trying to give CPR.
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People believed this,
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and... this has
haunted us ever since.
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And for the families of
the dead, for the survivors,
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for the witnesses,
it's been an extra layer of...
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HE EXHALES
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...misery.
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And that really, really got to me,
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and I thought... At that time,
straight away, I thought,
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"We've got a fight on our hands."
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Both club and supporters
were united in this fight.
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The players knew that creating
memories on the pitch might help.
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The next season, they regrouped and
challenged for the title again.
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And that could mean that the
championship goes to Anfield
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for the 18th time.
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Well, there are scenes of
delight all around Anfield.
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The Kop alive with passion
and emotion.
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I remember the presentation
ceremony in 1990 and looking
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down at Alan Hansen, who was
struggling to get comfy.
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He couldn't stand or kneel
for the photographs.
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In the end, he went and got behind
somebody and leaned on him.
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His knees had gone.
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I knew that was literally
the end of an era
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in more ways than one.
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They were mentally worn down.
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And I think that sense
of not coming to terms
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with your experiences and
the mental burdens that come
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with that...| think
were apparent that year.
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Every experience leaves its mark.
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Having been a focal point
for not just the club,
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but at times what felt
like the entire city,
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Kenny — King Kenny — decided
he could reign no more.
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The biggest problem was...
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...was the pressure...
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00:21:10,004 --> 00:21:11,698
...| was putting myself under...
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...because of my desire
to be successful.
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00:21:17,334 --> 00:21:19,028
Hillsborough took its toll on Kenny.
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I mean, if you look at the picture
of Kenny the day he retired,
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and he goes to Florida,
comes back six weeks later,
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it's a different man.
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00:21:26,084 --> 00:21:28,109
It's a different —
Totally different — man.
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See ya, Ken. Ta—ra, lads.
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00:21:31,254 --> 00:21:36,669
So the realisation later on that
what he was suffering with was...
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...kind of the same thing...
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...that I personally — and lots of
others like me — were suffering.
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Grief is the only way
I can describe it.
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I was quite devastated, actually,
because you always wonder,
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who's going to be the next manager?
Will they understand how we feel?
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But at the same time,
we understood it.
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We understood why he
had... he resigned.
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It couldn't have been predicted
at the time, but Dalglish leaving
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was the end of an era.
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His departure led to
the Great Red Drought.
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The club continued their
tried and trusted method.
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When the manager left, the successor
was always one of their own.
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You're Graeme Souness, aren't ya?
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Yeah.
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You look like me.
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Oh. aye'?
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Now it was the turn
of Graeme Souness,
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who'd left the club as a
player a year before
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the Heysel tragedy, and had
success as Rangers manager.
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Well, of course, everybody was
delighted when Graeme Souness came
428
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because it was
a Liverpool promotion.
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00:22:47,284 --> 00:22:48,869
Souness!
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00:22:50,694 --> 00:22:52,669
Souness plays the gap
behind the defence.
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And gets in!
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He was distanced from the disaster.
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He'd come in and restore
a sense of perspective.
434
00:23:02,084 --> 00:23:06,059
A lot was changing in terms
of the food, the diets,
435
00:23:06,084 --> 00:23:08,778
the nutrition, which was all
coming into football anyway.
436
00:23:10,644 --> 00:23:13,669
Liverpool were renowned as the
biggest drinkers in the league.
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00:23:13,694 --> 00:23:16,148
They said, "You live your life
how you want to live your life.
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00:23:16,173 --> 00:23:17,870
"If you've got to be hungover,
you be hungover,
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00:23:17,894 --> 00:23:18,979
"but you train properly."
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And having been part of it —
And there were still players
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who knew he was part of it there —
He wanted to change it and stop it.
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00:23:24,894 --> 00:23:27,818
Stop them getting
blind drunk every night.
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00:23:27,843 --> 00:23:29,669
They didn't like it.
444
00:23:32,614 --> 00:23:36,979
I think it was actually probably
too early in his managerial career
445
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because he came to Liverpool
and he let one or two players
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go too early.
447
00:23:41,564 --> 00:23:44,339
When I was a player, there was only
one club to play for, and when
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someone comes to me and says, "Well,
I'd rather be somewhere else,"
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that was it. It was back them out.
It was finished. Let's go.
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Let's get them out the door
as quickly as possible.
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That was the big mistake I made.
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One of the things Liverpool
did really well over the years,
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they'd always buy from
a position of strength.
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They'd always bring in new players
when they were successful.
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After Hillsborough, they lost
their way in that area as well.
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And it got to the stage whereby
the only two senior players left
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who had been there
were me and Rushy,
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so you had a lot of young players
and a lot of new players coming in,
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00:24:10,644 --> 00:24:13,179
so the Liverpool way
wasn't there any more.
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00:24:17,614 --> 00:24:20,509
Performances on the pitch
began to suffer.
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00:24:20,534 --> 00:24:23,619
Liverpool were no longer title
contenders, though they did
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win the FA Cup in 1992.
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00:24:26,564 --> 00:24:27,750
Thomas through the middle again.
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00:24:27,774 --> 00:24:28,948
Michael Thomas.
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00:24:28,973 --> 00:24:30,229
Rush!
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00:24:30,254 --> 00:24:31,669
2-0, Liverpool.
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00:24:33,614 --> 00:24:36,309
Liverpool win the FA Cup
for the fifth time —
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And in their centenary year,
as well.
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00:24:40,164 --> 00:24:42,948
The priorities, as always,
for Liverpool Football Club
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will be the First Division
championship next season
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00:24:45,204 --> 00:24:47,340
and, from that point of view,
they'd a bad season this season.
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They finished sixth.
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00:24:53,534 --> 00:24:56,339
What struck me was, yes, OK, we're
losing games — and from a winning
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00:24:56,364 --> 00:24:59,229
mentality point of view — but,
more importantly, things that were
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00:24:59,254 --> 00:25:00,619
happening in training.
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00:25:00,644 --> 00:25:03,148
And that was a problem at Liverpool
— the way we were preparing
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00:25:03,173 --> 00:25:04,589
Monday to Friday.
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00:25:04,614 --> 00:25:08,948
And in many respects, to be fair to
Graeme, a lot of it then became
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00:25:08,973 --> 00:25:11,589
if we lost,
who's going to get the blame?
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His commitment and his passion
for Liverpool is unbelievable,
481
00:25:17,644 --> 00:25:20,059
but because he's committed
and passionate about Liverpool,
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00:25:20,084 --> 00:25:21,980
it doesn't mean he's the right guy
to run the team.
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00:25:22,004 --> 00:25:23,898
He said he loves Liverpool, OK?
484
00:25:23,923 --> 00:25:25,979
So if he does, he should go.
485
00:25:26,004 --> 00:25:29,509
It wasn't a nice atmosphere
towards the end.
486
00:25:29,534 --> 00:25:34,539
It was a very conflicting
and confrontational atmosphere.
487
00:25:34,564 --> 00:25:38,179
By tradition, Liverpool had always
stood by their managers, but poor
488
00:25:38,204 --> 00:25:40,889
league performances, compounded
with an FA Cup defeat
489
00:25:40,914 --> 00:25:44,559
to Division One side Bristol City,
put an end to all that.
490
00:25:44,584 --> 00:25:48,809
Great delight for them, but you just
wonder what this might have done
491
00:25:48,834 --> 00:25:50,999
to Liverpool's season.
492
00:25:52,073 --> 00:25:55,889
I am extremely sorry to have
to announce that Graeme Souness
493
00:25:55,914 --> 00:25:59,559
has offered his resignation
from the post of team manager.
494
00:25:59,584 --> 00:26:02,838
The results in the league
and the domestic European Cup
495
00:26:02,863 --> 00:26:06,999
competitions have been well below
what is expected by the club
496
00:26:07,024 --> 00:26:08,359
and the supporters.
497
00:26:15,384 --> 00:26:20,279
The dawn of the Premier League in
1992 heralded a glitzy, modern,
498
00:26:20,304 --> 00:26:22,359
more brand-aware world for football.
499
00:26:22,384 --> 00:26:25,119
It's a chance, really, to get
the structure of professional
500
00:26:25,144 --> 00:26:26,640
football right for the next
hundred years.
501
00:26:26,664 --> 00:26:28,480
We'll never have another
opportunity like this.
502
00:26:28,504 --> 00:26:32,329
I think, in some ways, Liverpool
got left behind off the pitch.
503
00:26:32,354 --> 00:26:35,889
With the riches that came
into the Premier League,
504
00:26:35,914 --> 00:26:40,249
Manchester United, for example,
ended up as a listed company,
505
00:26:40,274 --> 00:26:43,279
just when there was a bit of
a revolution off the pitch,
506
00:26:43,304 --> 00:26:47,079
and maybe Liverpool got caught a
little bit napping in that sense.
507
00:26:47,104 --> 00:26:49,838
Bruce! Yes!
508
00:26:49,863 --> 00:26:52,718
Not only were United stealing
a march off the pitch,
509
00:26:52,743 --> 00:26:54,889
they were miles ahead on it.
510
00:26:54,914 --> 00:26:58,168
Their Great Red Drought
was being washed away by a crop
511
00:26:58,193 --> 00:27:02,168
of talented youngsters
and a very modest Frenchman.
512
00:27:02,193 --> 00:27:06,168
They won trophy after trophy,
and it was all masterminded
513
00:27:06,193 --> 00:27:09,798
by their own Scottish alchemist,
Sir Alex Ferguson.
514
00:27:13,664 --> 00:27:17,759
Liverpool's strategy to combat
all of this change was to do exactly
515
00:27:17,784 --> 00:27:19,609
what they'd always done.
516
00:27:19,634 --> 00:27:23,329
They promoted Roy Evans
from assistant to manager.
517
00:27:23,354 --> 00:27:24,918
Good morning.
518
00:27:24,943 --> 00:27:28,759
So I suppose it's, erm... We're back
to basics, I suppose, in a way.
519
00:27:30,384 --> 00:27:32,999
But maybe that's the way
we should be going.
520
00:27:33,024 --> 00:27:34,280
I think it would be silly to say,
521
00:27:34,304 --> 00:27:36,529
"Well, I've take the job
and now be afraid of it."
522
00:27:36,554 --> 00:27:40,968
I think it's nice to have your own
destiny in your own hands.
523
00:27:40,993 --> 00:27:43,048
And then I went home and I thought,
524
00:27:43,073 --> 00:27:45,718
"Cor, blimey, I've just said I want
to be the manager of Liverpool.
525
00:27:45,743 --> 00:27:49,889
"At the end of the day, everything
now is down to me, I suppose."
526
00:27:49,914 --> 00:27:52,119
For the first week or so you think,
527
00:27:52,144 --> 00:27:54,279
"Oh, God, what's this
going to be like?"
528
00:27:54,304 --> 00:27:55,479
OK? All right.
529
00:27:55,504 --> 00:27:57,690
And don't start off with anything
about "Liverpool are on fire".
530
00:27:57,714 --> 00:28:00,168
No, no, no. LAUGHTER
531
00:28:00,193 --> 00:28:04,088
Evans inherited Liverpool's own
crop of brilliant young players.
532
00:28:04,113 --> 00:28:08,479
Steve McManaman, jamie Redknapp
and a superstar local striker.
533
00:28:09,634 --> 00:28:11,689
It's Robbie Fowler. It's three.
534
00:28:13,384 --> 00:28:14,968
I loved him as a manager.
535
00:28:14,993 --> 00:28:16,639
The belief he instilled
into the players,
536
00:28:16,664 --> 00:28:18,088
I think was quite frightening.
537
00:28:18,113 --> 00:28:20,968
McManaman. Fowler.
538
00:28:20,993 --> 00:28:22,359
McManaman.
539
00:28:22,384 --> 00:28:24,119
It's a glorious goal!
540
00:28:25,743 --> 00:28:27,718
No qualms at all with Roy Evans.
541
00:28:27,743 --> 00:28:31,168
We got on really well and,
of course, he gave me my debut,
542
00:28:31,193 --> 00:28:32,399
put a lot of faith in me.
543
00:28:36,104 --> 00:28:38,329
Evans reinstated
the Liverpool tradition
544
00:28:38,354 --> 00:28:40,399
of having fun off the pitch.
545
00:28:40,424 --> 00:28:43,609
Socially, them clays, the players
could go out occasionally,
546
00:28:43,634 --> 00:28:44,718
have a drink.
547
00:28:44,743 --> 00:28:46,079
I had no problem with that.
548
00:28:49,943 --> 00:28:53,291
I didn't really take much notice of,
you know, what the press were saying
549
00:28:53,316 --> 00:28:55,851
about, you know, they go out
drinking and things like that.
550
00:28:59,236 --> 00:29:01,212
It was like, "Come on,
we're having a lads' day out.
551
00:29:01,236 --> 00:29:02,651
"We're all going to the races."
552
00:29:02,676 --> 00:29:05,601
And you had to go.
It wasn't sort of... an option.
553
00:29:05,626 --> 00:29:06,961
CHEERING
554
00:29:09,316 --> 00:29:13,361
The Spice Boys, they certainly
never packed away the sort of
555
00:29:13,386 --> 00:29:16,571
number of pints that
the predecessors did,
556
00:29:16,596 --> 00:29:20,321
but they were into a
different sort of lifestyle.
557
00:29:20,346 --> 00:29:24,130
We obviously went out and we enjoyed
ourselves, but we went out
558
00:29:24,155 --> 00:29:26,361
and enjoyed ourselves
at the right time.
559
00:29:26,386 --> 00:29:29,130
I think the fact is that we never
won the league but, you know,
560
00:29:29,155 --> 00:29:31,851
it wasn't through the lack
of trying or the want of trying.
561
00:29:31,876 --> 00:29:34,651
We were just a little bit
unfortunate that there was another
562
00:29:34,676 --> 00:29:38,321
team just down the road who were
probably slightly better than us.
563
00:29:41,705 --> 00:29:43,361
Nice suits, those, aren't they?
564
00:29:43,386 --> 00:29:46,571
See the pockets?
Look at the back of...
565
00:29:46,596 --> 00:29:49,261
I mean, I won't throw
the blame on anyone but,
566
00:29:49,286 --> 00:29:52,981
you know, at the time,
David James was a model for Armani.
567
00:29:53,006 --> 00:29:57,591
I don't think we were the first
team who's ever wore dodgy suits.
568
00:29:57,616 --> 00:29:59,341
I'm in my 30s, I think,
569
00:29:59,366 --> 00:30:01,900
"Well, I'd like a nice
little blue Armani suit
570
00:30:01,925 --> 00:30:03,341
"because I'm going to retire
571
00:30:03,366 --> 00:30:06,791
"and if I have an Armani suit,
I can wear it till I'm 50."
572
00:30:06,816 --> 00:30:08,355
Watch out for your pens, please,
573
00:30:08,380 --> 00:30:10,967
because you can see
the white suit...
574
00:30:10,992 --> 00:30:12,006
Move that pen.
575
00:30:12,031 --> 00:30:13,857
Uh-uh. No.
576
00:30:13,882 --> 00:30:16,777
But, of course, I got outvoted.
577
00:30:19,352 --> 00:30:21,447
Scholes in the six—yard area.
578
00:30:21,472 --> 00:30:23,297
Five behind.
579
00:30:23,322 --> 00:30:25,327
James gets there, just first.
580
00:30:25,352 --> 00:30:26,367
Cantona!
581
00:30:30,882 --> 00:30:34,527
Massively disappointed in terms
of how it turned out.
582
00:30:34,552 --> 00:30:37,217
If I was to go back in my career
and I could change one result,
583
00:30:37,242 --> 00:30:39,607
I think that would be the one.
584
00:30:39,632 --> 00:30:43,967
Dodgy suits aside, Liverpool
did manage to turn on the style
585
00:30:43,992 --> 00:30:45,967
the following season, but they just
586
00:30:45,992 --> 00:30:48,217
missed out on
a Champions League place.
587
00:30:48,242 --> 00:30:51,727
With only one League Cup
in Roy's trophy cabinet,
588
00:30:51,752 --> 00:30:55,297
the media spotlight began
to focus on the man in charge.
589
00:30:55,322 --> 00:30:58,577
How would you describe yourself,
Roy? What sort of a man are you?
590
00:30:58,602 --> 00:31:00,367
They've always called me
Steady Eddie
591
00:31:00,392 --> 00:31:02,136
and I suppose that's
about right, really.
592
00:31:02,161 --> 00:31:04,936
I don't go too far
from the middle line.
593
00:31:04,961 --> 00:31:07,577
Come out if you want.
Come out if you want!
594
00:31:07,602 --> 00:31:10,607
Roy did a really, really good job.
595
00:31:10,632 --> 00:31:13,806
He just couldn't quite,
you know, win the big one.
596
00:31:13,831 --> 00:31:16,136
It always seemed to have eluded him.
597
00:31:16,161 --> 00:31:19,167
And I think, if anything, with him,
he was — and I hate this phrase,
598
00:31:19,192 --> 00:31:21,497
but I'm going to use it —
He was too nice.
599
00:31:21,522 --> 00:31:22,887
Stand up, Robbie, stand up, Robbie.
600
00:31:22,911 --> 00:31:24,047
Well done, well done.
601
00:31:24,072 --> 00:31:25,806
No, I disagree with this,
to be honest.
602
00:31:25,831 --> 00:31:29,087
Regardless of what
anyone says about Roy,
603
00:31:29,112 --> 00:31:31,727
I always thought he was
a tough manager.
604
00:31:31,752 --> 00:31:34,217
You know, there's loads
of different ways to skin a cat
605
00:31:34,242 --> 00:31:37,577
and Roy Evans was absolutely...
very, very good manager,
606
00:31:37,602 --> 00:31:42,136
and Liverpool could have won
the league under his tutelage.
607
00:31:42,161 --> 00:31:44,857
Get it, Macca, get it, Macca,
get it, Macca, get it, Macca.
608
00:31:44,882 --> 00:31:45,967
Good tackle, there.
609
00:31:45,992 --> 00:31:47,777
LAUGHTER
610
00:31:52,442 --> 00:31:56,247
In '98, we felt that we were going
to have to make a tough decision,
611
00:31:56,272 --> 00:32:01,527
make a change, because top of
the table is where we wanted to be
612
00:32:01,552 --> 00:32:04,886
and... that's when the decision
was taken to bring
613
00:32:04,911 --> 00:32:07,607
in Gerard Houllier.
614
00:32:07,632 --> 00:32:11,886
That was my idea initially because
I thought that Roy Evans had done
615
00:32:11,911 --> 00:32:14,047
a good job and I thought
it was unfair,
616
00:32:14,072 --> 00:32:18,136
so I said we can have some
kind of joint management.
617
00:32:18,161 --> 00:32:21,167
A big decision taken together.
618
00:32:21,192 --> 00:32:23,087
Sometimes it's just minor things.
619
00:32:23,112 --> 00:32:25,167
Either Roy or...
620
00:32:25,192 --> 00:32:27,247
We won't be doing this
every week together...
621
00:32:27,272 --> 00:32:29,527
Some weeks I'll do it,
some weeks Gerard will do it...
622
00:32:29,552 --> 00:32:32,247
But there's got to be some
benefits to it somewhere!
623
00:32:32,272 --> 00:32:34,367
It was a bold step for Liverpool
to take.
624
00:32:34,392 --> 00:32:38,287
Maybe it was a case of,
can we minimise the risk
625
00:32:38,312 --> 00:32:42,447
by having a degree of compromise?
626
00:32:43,522 --> 00:32:47,087
It might have been a bold move to
begin with, but as soon as results
627
00:32:47,112 --> 00:32:51,247
started dropping off, there was a
sense that, as far as managers go,
628
00:32:51,272 --> 00:32:53,806
it is better to walk alone.
629
00:32:53,831 --> 00:32:56,136
You've got to have one man
making the decisions...
630
00:32:56,161 --> 00:32:58,447
Whether it's substitutions,
team selection,
631
00:32:58,472 --> 00:33:01,607
leaving people out or whatever —
So one man should be in charge.
632
00:33:01,632 --> 00:33:03,367
You can't do it by committee? No.
633
00:33:03,392 --> 00:33:05,287
If you call people joint managers...
634
00:33:06,472 --> 00:33:09,886
...then...from that start then,
you're going to have a problem.
635
00:33:11,112 --> 00:33:14,037
It's not a matter of personality
636
00:33:14,062 --> 00:33:16,287
between Roy and myself.
637
00:33:16,312 --> 00:33:19,727
I think he's a very nice man,
very nice person.
638
00:33:19,752 --> 00:33:21,887
Obviously he's not my favourite man
in the whole world,
639
00:33:21,911 --> 00:33:23,886
but that's... that's... that's life.
640
00:33:23,911 --> 00:33:26,217
But I don't blame him
in any shape or form.
641
00:33:26,242 --> 00:33:30,857
"Today is a sad day for Liverpool
Football Club and for me personally
642
00:33:30,882 --> 00:33:34,447
"as I have to inform you that we
have agreed, by mutual consent,
643
00:33:34,472 --> 00:33:37,367
"that Roy Evans and his assistant,
Doug Livermore,
644
00:33:37,392 --> 00:33:38,967
"are to leave the club."
645
00:33:40,352 --> 00:33:43,056
He's not somebody who would knife
you in the back, you know, he's...
646
00:33:45,472 --> 00:33:48,777
Really, it's because
the situation doesn't fit.
647
00:33:50,831 --> 00:33:52,307
I love the bones of this place.
648
00:33:52,332 --> 00:33:55,666
It's been everything to me and
I've been delighted to work here
649
00:33:55,691 --> 00:33:59,287
and I appreciate all
the help I've had.
650
00:33:59,312 --> 00:34:01,727
In football, sometimes
it's a ruthless business.
651
00:34:01,752 --> 00:34:03,686
Sometimes you have to look
after yourself
652
00:34:03,711 --> 00:34:07,167
and, possibly, he was better
at doing that than me.
653
00:34:15,362 --> 00:34:17,497
The board was very good to me.
654
00:34:18,552 --> 00:34:24,697
They said, "We don't have all
the qualities in the world.
655
00:34:24,722 --> 00:34:28,727
"There's one virtue that
we have — we are patient.
656
00:34:28,752 --> 00:34:31,607
"Take your time.
Do what you have to do.
657
00:34:31,632 --> 00:34:32,926
"We'll back you."
658
00:34:32,951 --> 00:34:36,676
I came back to my staff and I said,
"Now I know we're going to win."
659
00:34:38,081 --> 00:34:40,926
I think there was an acceptance that
the culture of the club needed to
660
00:34:40,951 --> 00:34:42,926
change by the players.
661
00:34:42,951 --> 00:34:47,217
The players who had resisted
were largely got rid of
662
00:34:47,242 --> 00:34:51,527
and you could see the development
of players like Michael Owen,
663
00:34:51,552 --> 00:34:54,167
you know, Steven, Carragher.
664
00:34:54,192 --> 00:34:57,886
For Liverpool, number 28
is Steven Gerard.
665
00:34:57,911 --> 00:35:00,217
In an under—19 game,
666
00:35:00,242 --> 00:35:02,607
Steve Heighway asked me to
go and see...
667
00:35:04,161 --> 00:35:07,217
...a player playing on the right.
668
00:35:07,242 --> 00:35:12,130
The guy who caught my eye
that day was Steven Gerrard.
669
00:35:12,155 --> 00:35:15,672
And he was in the middle of the park
going from box to box, tackling,
670
00:35:15,697 --> 00:35:22,243
shouting, showing some leadership
quality despite his young age,
671
00:35:22,268 --> 00:35:25,493
so I decided to take him
with me the next day.
672
00:35:28,878 --> 00:35:33,163
Birmingham City and Liverpool!
673
00:35:33,188 --> 00:35:36,213
2001 was, I think,
a tremendous year.
674
00:35:36,238 --> 00:35:38,213
It started with the League Cup.
675
00:35:39,518 --> 00:35:42,773
The Scouse captain of Liverpool
scores an absolutely stunning goal.
676
00:35:45,308 --> 00:35:48,243
I think that was the
most difficult final!
677
00:35:48,268 --> 00:35:50,493
Andy Johnson, right foot.
678
00:35:50,518 --> 00:35:51,853
It's saved by Westerveld!
679
00:35:51,878 --> 00:35:54,083
And Liverpool have won
the Worthington Cup!
680
00:35:56,518 --> 00:36:00,573
That trophy was very important.
681
00:36:00,598 --> 00:36:05,052
It took some pressure off the team,
you know — we'd won something.
682
00:36:05,077 --> 00:36:08,002
Growing up, if you'd given me one
game to score the winner in,
683
00:36:08,027 --> 00:36:10,333
it would have been FA Cup final.
684
00:36:10,358 --> 00:36:12,853
And I was so confident
going into the game,
685
00:36:12,878 --> 00:36:16,922
but for 85 minutes I just hadn't
had a sniff of a chance.
686
00:36:16,947 --> 00:36:18,002
Pushing and shoving.
687
00:36:18,027 --> 00:36:19,132
And there's the shot.
688
00:36:19,157 --> 00:36:20,493
And there's the equaliser!
689
00:36:21,878 --> 00:36:22,882
Michael Owen!
690
00:36:25,748 --> 00:36:27,882
I just knew once I scored that goal,
691
00:36:27,907 --> 00:36:29,922
j0gging past Arsenal players,
692
00:36:29,947 --> 00:36:32,333
seeing how slumped they were,
693
00:36:32,358 --> 00:36:34,882
and then just looking
at the clock thinking,
694
00:36:34,907 --> 00:36:36,413
"Right — have I got enough time now
695
00:36:36,438 --> 00:36:39,363
"to finish them off or am I going
to have to do it in extra time?"
696
00:36:39,388 --> 00:36:40,693
This is Berger.
697
00:36:40,718 --> 00:36:43,493
And Robbie Fowler looks sprightly
now. Watched the ball, played early,
698
00:36:43,518 --> 00:36:44,523
but so does Owen!
699
00:36:44,548 --> 00:36:46,603
And he's getting
the other side of Dixon.
700
00:36:46,628 --> 00:36:48,213
Michael Owen for Liverpool...
701
00:36:48,238 --> 00:36:50,243
Yes! Oh, he's done it!
702
00:36:50,268 --> 00:36:52,333
What an incredible goal
for Michael Owen!
703
00:36:53,668 --> 00:36:54,672
Unbelievable stuff.
704
00:36:58,798 --> 00:37:03,643
I've possibly scored more famous
goals, but give me one day again
705
00:37:03,668 --> 00:37:05,723
and I'd relive that day.
706
00:37:16,077 --> 00:37:18,283
Come on, boys, come on.
707
00:37:18,308 --> 00:37:20,443
One good ball in.
708
00:37:20,468 --> 00:37:23,493
Five Liverpool
players to attack the wall.
709
00:37:23,518 --> 00:37:25,002
Oh, it's an own goal!
710
00:37:25,027 --> 00:37:28,523
YEAH! YEAHHH!
711
00:37:28,548 --> 00:37:30,802
That was an own goal, wasn't it?
712
00:37:30,827 --> 00:37:32,163
Was that an own goal?!
713
00:37:32,188 --> 00:37:37,252
A smile on the face of
Gerard Houllier at the end.
714
00:37:39,108 --> 00:37:41,493
After so many years
without trophies,
715
00:37:41,518 --> 00:37:45,002
suddenly Liverpool
couldn't stop winning them.
716
00:37:45,027 --> 00:37:47,243
And before long,
they added two more
717
00:37:47,268 --> 00:37:50,493
by winning the Super Cup
and the Charity Shield.
718
00:37:50,518 --> 00:37:53,443
Crucially, Liverpool
also won qualification
719
00:37:53,468 --> 00:37:56,313
to the Champions League
for the first time.
720
00:37:56,338 --> 00:37:58,363
After so long without success,
721
00:37:58,388 --> 00:38:00,672
it felt as if the club
were back on top,
722
00:38:00,697 --> 00:38:05,493
although their treble was mocked
by their rivals down the M62.
723
00:38:05,518 --> 00:38:08,693
We won every competition that
we entered in terms of cups,
724
00:38:08,718 --> 00:38:11,413
So, you know, if that's
Mickey Mouse, then...| mean,
725
00:38:11,438 --> 00:38:14,773
God knows what everything else is,
because I think for us
726
00:38:14,798 --> 00:38:18,563
to achieve that, I think it's
quite extraordinary. It really is.
727
00:38:20,748 --> 00:38:23,203
Winning those five trophies
with Liverpool,
728
00:38:23,228 --> 00:38:27,243
which was the club of my heart,
it's different, yeah.
729
00:38:27,268 --> 00:38:29,132
And when I say the club of my heart,
730
00:38:29,157 --> 00:38:33,693
my heart, you know,
practically fail after that!
731
00:38:33,718 --> 00:38:35,603
Come on, now. Come on, Stevie G!
732
00:38:35,628 --> 00:38:40,563
We were really looking forward
to the 2001—2002 season.
733
00:38:40,588 --> 00:38:44,723
Let this be the one
where we win the league.
734
00:38:47,827 --> 00:38:52,523
I felt ill in the half-time
of the game against Leeds.
735
00:38:52,548 --> 00:38:55,243
I don't want to go back
out there. I'm sorry.
736
00:38:57,388 --> 00:39:00,493
Gerard Houllier
underwent a dissection of the aorta,
737
00:39:00,518 --> 00:39:03,283
the main vessel
carrying blood to the heart.
738
00:39:03,308 --> 00:39:06,303
He's now on a ventilator
in intensive care.
739
00:39:07,608 --> 00:39:10,203
Puts life into perspective,
puts football into perspective.
740
00:39:10,228 --> 00:39:12,802
Obviously our thoughts
are very much with Gerard
741
00:39:12,827 --> 00:39:15,283
and particularly with
Isabelle at this time,
742
00:39:15,308 --> 00:39:18,083
and we just wish him
a very speedy recovery.
743
00:39:18,108 --> 00:39:21,163
As might be expected
after an operation
744
00:39:21,188 --> 00:39:22,922
of this nature and complexity,
745
00:39:22,947 --> 00:39:26,693
recovery is inevitably
a slow and gradual process.
746
00:39:26,718 --> 00:39:30,693
It almost felt as if the doctors
were trying to keep him away,
747
00:39:30,718 --> 00:39:33,693
but he was adamant he wanted
to be back and it felt like
748
00:39:33,718 --> 00:39:37,363
he came back in far quicker time
than he was supposed to.
749
00:39:49,618 --> 00:39:51,922
I remember that day,
750
00:39:51,947 --> 00:39:54,313
because when I came on the pitch,
751
00:39:54,338 --> 00:39:57,363
Capello was there.
When he saw me, he hugged me.
752
00:40:00,438 --> 00:40:03,723
It went through the crowd gradually
that I was in the stadium
753
00:40:03,748 --> 00:40:05,163
and I was back.
754
00:40:05,188 --> 00:40:08,882
CHEERING
755
00:40:08,907 --> 00:40:10,882
Special day. Special night.
756
00:40:12,668 --> 00:40:15,203
I think Gerard came back too soon.
757
00:40:15,228 --> 00:40:16,723
And he might disagree.
758
00:40:16,748 --> 00:40:18,802
I don't think he was
the same person.
759
00:40:18,827 --> 00:40:20,802
It's easy to have regrets.
760
00:40:20,827 --> 00:40:24,002
All I can say is that
I was far too early
761
00:40:24,027 --> 00:40:26,643
and I probably paid it afterwards.
762
00:40:33,027 --> 00:40:35,002
With Houllier back in the hot seat,
763
00:40:35,027 --> 00:40:37,723
Liverpool ended the season
in second place...
764
00:40:37,748 --> 00:40:40,523
Their highest Premier League finish.
765
00:40:40,548 --> 00:40:42,773
But the team could not
reach the same heights
766
00:40:42,798 --> 00:40:44,523
in the following two seasons.
767
00:40:44,548 --> 00:40:47,283
The pressure was mounting
on the boss.
768
00:40:47,308 --> 00:40:49,843
If people decide, you know,
that I'm not the right man
769
00:40:49,868 --> 00:40:52,953
for the right place, so what?
I mean, I'm not important.
770
00:40:52,978 --> 00:40:55,283
I'm not here for myself.
I'm here for the club.
771
00:40:55,308 --> 00:40:57,523
We were... hugely...
772
00:40:59,188 --> 00:41:00,843
...concerned about his health.
773
00:41:00,868 --> 00:41:03,414
We were very concerned that he'd
nearly given his life for the club.
774
00:41:03,438 --> 00:41:05,882
So if the club thinks,
"Well, Houllier shouldn't stay,"
775
00:41:05,907 --> 00:41:09,773
so, I mean, the people in command,
in charge, have to decide that.
776
00:41:09,798 --> 00:41:12,243
By then we wanted to be winning.
777
00:41:12,268 --> 00:41:13,843
We wanted to be contenders.
778
00:41:13,868 --> 00:41:17,283
We really needed to be contenders
for the title. We weren't.
779
00:41:17,308 --> 00:41:20,083
But as far as I'm concerned,
I know where we're going.
780
00:41:20,108 --> 00:41:23,283
I know it's been a rocky year,
but we'll get there.
781
00:41:23,308 --> 00:41:27,483
And it was a sad day when we decided
that we had to make a change.
782
00:41:29,268 --> 00:41:32,363
I don't know.
Maybe my health played a part.
783
00:41:32,388 --> 00:41:35,882
People ask me, you know,
"Well, what is your contribution?"
784
00:41:35,907 --> 00:41:37,802
I say my contribution is nothing,
785
00:41:37,827 --> 00:41:40,593
apart from the fact that
the team finished fourth
786
00:41:40,618 --> 00:41:43,233
and they were allowed
to play Champions League.
787
00:41:43,258 --> 00:41:47,132
I heard and I read that
they want to go back to the '60s
788
00:41:47,157 --> 00:41:49,363
and the '70s culture.
789
00:41:49,388 --> 00:41:51,283
Well, fair enough, but not with me.
790
00:42:11,438 --> 00:42:14,922
My first night with my wife
in Liverpool was, er...
791
00:42:16,358 --> 00:42:20,113
...raining cats and dogs or
dogs and cats, how you say?
792
00:42:20,138 --> 00:42:21,952
Cats and dogs.
793
00:42:21,977 --> 00:42:24,653
Raining cats and dogs.
It was a big storm. And we said,
794
00:42:24,678 --> 00:42:27,783
"Oh, we are coming from Valencia
and then we come here. 00f."
795
00:42:30,238 --> 00:42:33,573
Rafa was an exciting
appointment for us.
796
00:42:33,598 --> 00:42:37,733
It was very much a case of,
the key credential for us
797
00:42:37,758 --> 00:42:41,653
is we need somebody who's won one
of the major European leagues.
798
00:42:41,678 --> 00:42:44,423
The former Valencia
boss Rafael Benitez
799
00:42:44,448 --> 00:42:48,423
has been the favourite for the job
ever since he quit the Spanish club.
800
00:42:48,448 --> 00:42:51,603
Valencia, we didn't have
too much money at this time.
801
00:42:51,628 --> 00:42:53,892
We were... I'm not sure
how you say in English this.
802
00:42:53,917 --> 00:42:56,703
"Punching above your weight"
or something like that.
803
00:42:56,728 --> 00:42:59,093
We chose him rather than Mourinho.
804
00:42:59,118 --> 00:43:01,892
We thought Rafa was much more
Liverpool's style.
805
00:43:01,917 --> 00:43:04,343
He had a bit more humility and...
806
00:43:05,628 --> 00:43:07,062
...was a bit more down—to—earth.
807
00:43:07,087 --> 00:43:13,173
I'm European champion,
so I'm not one of... of the bottle.
808
00:43:13,198 --> 00:43:15,012
I think I'm a special one.
809
00:43:18,057 --> 00:43:21,603
Famously, he walks into a bar
full of Liverpool fans
810
00:43:21,628 --> 00:43:24,423
and has a drink, and everyone said,
you know, "That's great."
811
00:43:24,448 --> 00:43:26,243
You know, man of the people
and all that.
812
00:43:26,268 --> 00:43:29,062
Well, he'd gone
through the wrong door.
813
00:43:29,087 --> 00:43:31,213
He thought he was going
into his hotel.
814
00:43:31,238 --> 00:43:33,012
But once he's there...
815
00:43:33,037 --> 00:43:35,733
"They're all Liverpool fans,
I'm not just going to walk out."
816
00:43:35,758 --> 00:43:39,213
So he, almost by accident,
got the city
817
00:43:39,238 --> 00:43:41,533
and got a sense of
what it was about.
818
00:43:44,857 --> 00:43:47,233
Very quickly, Benitez also learnt
819
00:43:47,258 --> 00:43:50,062
about the internal tensions
at the club.
820
00:43:50,087 --> 00:43:52,373
Literally the first day
Rafa arrived,
821
00:43:52,398 --> 00:43:55,373
I had to tell him that
Steven Gerrard had decided
822
00:43:55,398 --> 00:43:56,882
that he wanted to go.
823
00:43:56,907 --> 00:43:59,373
I haven't been really happy
with the progression of the club
824
00:43:59,398 --> 00:44:02,423
over the last two years.
For the first time in my career,
825
00:44:02,448 --> 00:44:06,423
I've really thought about
the possibility of moving on.
826
00:44:06,448 --> 00:44:10,243
I think during the Euros,
Steven pretty much decided
827
00:44:10,268 --> 00:44:13,213
he wanted to go to Chelsea.
The mistake Chelsea made was
828
00:44:13,238 --> 00:44:17,262
letting Steven come back
to Liverpool after the Euros.
829
00:44:17,287 --> 00:44:19,653
They should have kept him
on Abramovich's boat.
830
00:44:19,678 --> 00:44:23,812
After coming home from Euro 2000,
sitting down with my family,
831
00:44:23,837 --> 00:44:29,243
I've decided that I'm staying on
at Liverpool Football Club.
832
00:44:29,268 --> 00:44:33,012
In the end, what I told him,
if you go to another side,
833
00:44:33,037 --> 00:44:35,573
maybe you can win some trophies,
but you will be one more.
834
00:44:35,598 --> 00:44:38,373
Here you are Stevie G,
the captain, the legend,
835
00:44:38,398 --> 00:44:40,832
and everybody
will remember you like that.
836
00:44:43,177 --> 00:44:45,932
Benitez set about changing
the direction of the team,
837
00:44:45,957 --> 00:44:48,653
bringing in Spanish playmaker
Xabi Alonzo
838
00:44:48,678 --> 00:44:50,983
to create a fabulous midfield duo.
839
00:44:51,008 --> 00:44:55,213
But Chelsea's interest in
Gerrard had unsettled Liverpool.
840
00:44:55,238 --> 00:44:59,173
They knew that Mourinho's team
were miles ahead in the league.
841
00:44:59,198 --> 00:45:04,243
Everywhere Liverpool looked,
it was Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea.
842
00:45:07,157 --> 00:45:09,723
We were in the stairs.
That feeling...
843
00:45:09,748 --> 00:45:13,363
Was a very nice conversation,
because they were winning.
844
00:45:13,388 --> 00:45:15,113
As soon as we start winning,
845
00:45:15,138 --> 00:45:17,873
things were getting worse
in terms of the relationship.
846
00:45:17,898 --> 00:45:21,152
But, OK, that is normal
when you are competing,
847
00:45:21,177 --> 00:45:23,473
and it's a style everybody knows.
848
00:45:23,498 --> 00:45:25,363
I tried to be more respectful,
849
00:45:25,388 --> 00:45:29,152
but... OK, each one can
decide what he prefers.
850
00:45:34,057 --> 00:45:38,032
We had that huge disappointment
of the League Cup,
851
00:45:38,057 --> 00:45:40,793
but the irony of playing
against Chelsea
852
00:45:40,818 --> 00:45:45,832
and Steven scoring the own goal
after everything that had gone on,
853
00:45:45,857 --> 00:45:48,393
but then in the dressing room
straight after the game saying,
854
00:45:48,418 --> 00:45:50,313
"| hope we get them
in the Champions League,"
855
00:45:50,338 --> 00:45:51,673
as indeed we then did.
856
00:45:56,857 --> 00:45:59,443
I think it was so good,
the team was so strong that
857
00:45:59,468 --> 00:46:02,233
nobody was expecting
that we could go through,
858
00:46:02,258 --> 00:46:05,473
and the Luis Garcia goal, and
they said, "Oh, it wasn't a goal,"
859
00:46:05,498 --> 00:46:07,313
then could be a red card
for Petr Cech
860
00:46:07,338 --> 00:46:08,832
at the beginning of the game.
861
00:46:08,857 --> 00:46:11,082
And I think it was very clear
862
00:46:11,107 --> 00:46:13,473
that it was a goal
that we deserved,
863
00:46:13,498 --> 00:46:16,113
because we did what we had to do
to score this goal.
864
00:46:19,538 --> 00:46:22,952
You have to give credit to someone
like Liverpool at this time...
865
00:46:22,977 --> 00:46:25,593
That, against the best team
in the Premier League,
866
00:46:25,618 --> 00:46:27,443
we could do so well
867
00:46:27,468 --> 00:46:29,513
that we could go to the final.
868
00:46:35,138 --> 00:46:37,003
The atmosphere was amazing.
869
00:46:38,468 --> 00:46:41,003
Our fans obviously
were there in force,
870
00:46:41,028 --> 00:46:44,363
outnumbering — considerably —
The Milan fans.
871
00:46:44,388 --> 00:46:49,113
If you see the team sheet,
AC Milan was so good.
872
00:46:49,138 --> 00:46:52,873
Everybody was so excited,
and just to go there and try to
873
00:46:52,898 --> 00:46:56,473
enjoy from the first minute until
the last minute if it was possible.
874
00:46:56,498 --> 00:46:59,032
In goes the free kick,
and the shot goes in,
875
00:46:59,057 --> 00:47:01,282
and it's there! Milan have scored!
876
00:47:01,307 --> 00:47:03,433
Here's Shevchenko.
Shevchenko crosses...
877
00:47:03,458 --> 00:47:04,753
It's 2-0.
878
00:47:06,138 --> 00:47:09,623
I was preparing my speech —
In my bad English now...
879
00:47:09,648 --> 00:47:11,543
Imagine some years ago,
880
00:47:11,568 --> 00:47:14,183
preparing my speech at half—time,
losing 2-0,
881
00:47:14,208 --> 00:47:16,003
and then we concede the third goal.
882
00:47:16,977 --> 00:47:18,393
Kaka. Oh, towards Crespo...
883
00:47:18,418 --> 00:47:20,473
Crespo's doing this.
It's going to be 3-0...
884
00:47:20,498 --> 00:47:21,673
And it is 5-0!
885
00:47:22,898 --> 00:47:26,513
Come half—time, people are leaving,
people are despairing,
886
00:47:26,538 --> 00:47:30,263
and I'm going, "It's not over
till the fat lady sings.
887
00:47:30,288 --> 00:47:32,183
"Come on. It's all right.
It'll be..."
888
00:47:32,208 --> 00:47:35,032
But it was almost like
it wasn't just me that felt it,
889
00:47:35,057 --> 00:47:38,723
because the crowd started to sing.
890
00:47:38,748 --> 00:47:43,313
# You'll never walk... #
891
00:47:43,338 --> 00:47:45,753
You need to explain
something in English
892
00:47:45,778 --> 00:47:47,902
and be sure that
you use the right words,
893
00:47:47,927 --> 00:47:50,263
and you keep the motivation
if you can.
894
00:47:50,288 --> 00:47:52,473
Another opportunity from Riise...
895
00:47:52,498 --> 00:47:55,183
Header! Yes, a goal
from Steven Gerrard!
896
00:47:56,338 --> 00:47:58,473
Never forget Stevie coming out...
897
00:47:58,498 --> 00:48:00,363
His arms are going like this,
898
00:48:00,388 --> 00:48:01,673
getting the crowd up.
899
00:48:01,698 --> 00:48:03,032
Man 25 yards out.
900
00:48:03,057 --> 00:48:05,233
Doesn't shoot, but Smicer by!
901
00:48:05,258 --> 00:48:10,513
All the way from Vladimir Smicer!
902
00:48:10,538 --> 00:48:14,593
And I'm not just saying this,
honestly, but I just knew
903
00:48:14,618 --> 00:48:16,363
we were going to win that day.
904
00:48:16,388 --> 00:48:18,673
Alonso... misses!
905
00:48:18,698 --> 00:48:20,753
And Alonso puts in the rebound!
906
00:48:20,778 --> 00:48:23,593
And this scoreline is
absolutely staggering.
907
00:48:23,618 --> 00:48:26,952
AC Milan 3, Liverpool 3!
908
00:48:28,818 --> 00:48:33,673
Then we had to go through
the most nerve-racking extra time.
909
00:48:33,698 --> 00:48:36,433
Dudek made some fantastic saves.
910
00:48:41,748 --> 00:48:44,902
And when we went to the penalties,
I was 100% convinced
911
00:48:44,927 --> 00:48:46,183
that we could win.
912
00:48:46,208 --> 00:48:47,433
Shevchenko...
913
00:48:47,458 --> 00:48:51,902
Dudek saves for Liverpool!
914
00:48:55,778 --> 00:48:58,723
It's as rich to me now
as if it had happened yesterday.
915
00:49:04,818 --> 00:49:07,263
And still I have
a lot of fans telling me,
916
00:49:07,288 --> 00:49:10,393
"Rafa, that is
the best night of my life.
917
00:49:10,418 --> 00:49:11,822
"Don't tell my wife."
918
00:49:11,847 --> 00:49:13,643
So they are telling me that
all the time.
919
00:49:13,668 --> 00:49:17,003
Liverpool are champions of Europe!
920
00:49:20,898 --> 00:49:22,473
I was in Istanbul.
921
00:49:22,498 --> 00:49:25,952
I went down to the changing room
after the game.
922
00:49:25,977 --> 00:49:27,363
A couple of players saw me.
923
00:49:27,388 --> 00:49:30,902
Normally the players
say "hi" and that's it.
924
00:49:30,927 --> 00:49:34,113
But they came to me
and practically hugged me.
925
00:49:34,138 --> 00:49:35,593
You know, it was really...
926
00:49:35,618 --> 00:49:38,393
And they said,
"Boss, it's your team."
927
00:49:38,418 --> 00:49:40,723
And I must say, Rafa was...
928
00:49:41,778 --> 00:49:47,113
...outstanding, because he understood
that the players had a sort of a...
929
00:49:47,138 --> 00:49:49,262
...maybe special
relationship with me,
930
00:49:49,287 --> 00:49:51,343
and they... you know, we didn't...
931
00:49:51,368 --> 00:49:54,293
I never fell out with the players,
so it was all right.
932
00:49:55,928 --> 00:49:59,163
This truly was
the miracle of Istanbul.
933
00:49:59,188 --> 00:50:01,093
But one night couldn't hide the fact
934
00:50:01,118 --> 00:50:04,773
that Liverpool weren't set up
to compete consistently.
935
00:50:04,798 --> 00:50:06,733
And their rivals knew it.
936
00:50:06,758 --> 00:50:09,773
Over the summer,
Chelsea came calling again,
937
00:50:09,798 --> 00:50:12,557
and this time, they were
determined to get their man.
938
00:50:13,862 --> 00:50:16,246
We tried everything
to talk him round.
939
00:50:16,271 --> 00:50:18,147
The chairman came to see him.
940
00:50:18,172 --> 00:50:21,357
And he had absolutely decided
that he was going,
941
00:50:21,382 --> 00:50:23,036
and we announced he was going.
942
00:50:23,061 --> 00:50:25,507
It was ambition.
It was restlessness.
943
00:50:25,532 --> 00:50:31,397
It was, oddly, not necessarily
feeling he was valued enough.
944
00:50:31,422 --> 00:50:34,967
Fortunately, he came around
and signed a deal
945
00:50:34,992 --> 00:50:37,916
and he did say to me,
"just do me one favour.
946
00:50:37,941 --> 00:50:40,116
"Don't ever let me do this again."
947
00:50:40,141 --> 00:50:42,837
With Gerrard having
put pen to paper,
948
00:50:42,862 --> 00:50:47,936
Liverpool did strengthen the team.
But he was restless for a reason.
949
00:50:47,961 --> 00:50:50,180
Despite Liverpool's
show of ambition,
950
00:50:50,205 --> 00:50:54,310
the footballing world had moved
into a new financial stratosphere.
951
00:50:56,004 --> 00:50:58,769
David Moore was really
a good chairman.
952
00:50:58,794 --> 00:51:01,740
I think Rick Parry and him,
they were trying to help
953
00:51:01,765 --> 00:51:04,769
and they didn't put us
under pressure.
954
00:51:04,794 --> 00:51:07,950
The plan was the same, was in
three years' time to compete.
955
00:51:07,975 --> 00:51:10,700
We were already winning. We were
in the final of the Carting Cup,
956
00:51:10,725 --> 00:51:13,950
and this year
we won the FA Cup also,
957
00:51:13,975 --> 00:51:16,769
and the European Super Cup,
so everybody was happy
958
00:51:16,794 --> 00:51:20,229
in the way that the team
and the club was progressing.
959
00:51:20,254 --> 00:51:21,820
The only thing is that,
economically,
960
00:51:21,845 --> 00:51:23,740
you couldn't compete
against the other teams.
961
00:51:28,085 --> 00:51:33,540
David Mo yes had decided in 2004
that he wanted to sell.
962
00:51:33,565 --> 00:51:35,700
He was concerned, I think,
963
00:51:35,725 --> 00:51:39,460
about the resources that Abramovich
was bringing to Chelsea.
964
00:51:39,485 --> 00:51:41,870
Interest in the club was high.
965
00:51:41,895 --> 00:51:44,310
Rival offers were received
from a consortium
966
00:51:44,335 --> 00:51:46,060
headed by the Shaikh of Dubai
967
00:51:46,085 --> 00:51:49,700
and an American businessman
called George Gillett.
968
00:51:49,725 --> 00:51:51,950
The club wanted to sell to Dubai,
969
00:51:51,975 --> 00:51:55,310
but a deal took too long
to materialise.
970
00:51:55,335 --> 00:51:58,590
Everyone seemed desperate
for the club to be bought out.
971
00:51:58,615 --> 00:52:00,820
Be careful what you wish for,
972
00:52:00,845 --> 00:52:04,950
because what we got
was absolute chaos.
973
00:52:04,975 --> 00:52:06,060
2007...
974
00:52:07,285 --> 00:52:11,979
...We ended up with
Messrs Hicks and Gillett.
975
00:52:15,794 --> 00:52:18,820
This is truly the largest
sport in the world,
976
00:52:18,845 --> 00:52:21,099
the most important sport
in the world, and this is
977
00:52:21,124 --> 00:52:24,050
the most important club in the most
important sport in the world,
978
00:52:24,075 --> 00:52:26,660
and what a privilege we have
to be associated with it,
979
00:52:26,685 --> 00:52:29,870
and we hope that with the
good graces of Rick and his team,
980
00:52:29,895 --> 00:52:33,050
that we will be able to enjoy
both on—the—pitch success
981
00:52:33,075 --> 00:52:34,660
and economic success.
982
00:52:34,685 --> 00:52:36,849
But we're buying this
with no debt on the club.
983
00:52:37,924 --> 00:52:41,899
I think George
absolutely wanted success.
984
00:52:41,924 --> 00:52:46,180
I think he got
what Liverpool was about.
985
00:52:46,205 --> 00:52:48,740
Tom Hicks I don't think
ever got Liverpool.
986
00:52:48,765 --> 00:52:51,540
I remember the week after
the deal went through,
987
00:52:51,565 --> 00:52:53,540
he did an interview for The Guardian
988
00:52:53,565 --> 00:52:56,340
saying buying Liverpool is just
like buying Weetabix, I think.
989
00:52:58,004 --> 00:52:59,820
Er... No, it definitely isn't.
990
00:52:59,845 --> 00:53:02,050
We are making plans
to move forward with the stadium
991
00:53:02,075 --> 00:53:03,410
as quickly as we can.
992
00:53:04,725 --> 00:53:07,410
We need all the revenues
we can possibly find
993
00:53:07,435 --> 00:53:09,300
to compete with Manchester.
994
00:53:09,325 --> 00:53:11,050
The beginning was fine,
995
00:53:11,075 --> 00:53:13,300
because I think they promised
a lot of things.
996
00:53:13,325 --> 00:53:15,870
Maybe after, I would say,
three, four months,
997
00:53:15,895 --> 00:53:18,180
that they lead, you could see that
998
00:53:18,205 --> 00:53:21,620
it was not exactly
what you were expecting.
999
00:53:21,645 --> 00:53:25,740
Liverpool faced Milan again in the
Champions League final that summer.
1000
00:53:25,765 --> 00:53:27,979
But there was to be
no repeat of Istanbul.
1001
00:53:29,765 --> 00:53:31,979
It looked like
Hicks and Gillett had cash
1002
00:53:32,004 --> 00:53:33,660
and were prepared to spend it.
1003
00:53:33,685 --> 00:53:37,590
Fernando Torres was brought in
for a club record transfer fee.
1004
00:53:37,615 --> 00:53:40,050
Beats Ben Haim... Torres!
1005
00:53:40,075 --> 00:53:41,410
And scores!
1006
00:53:41,435 --> 00:53:44,540
His first goal for Liverpool!
1007
00:53:46,325 --> 00:53:48,769
But despite promises
to the contrary,
1008
00:53:48,794 --> 00:53:52,180
they'd borrowed money to fund
most of their activity,
1009
00:53:52,205 --> 00:53:56,690
in the form of a bank loan
from RBS for over £200 million.
1010
00:53:57,924 --> 00:53:59,490
Not long after arriving,
1011
00:53:59,515 --> 00:54:04,019
we headed into a period where
the relationship between Rafa,
1012
00:54:04,044 --> 00:54:06,870
between the fans and
between the ownership
1013
00:54:06,895 --> 00:54:09,180
all kind of started to fall apart.
1014
00:54:09,205 --> 00:54:12,769
I had people inside telling me,
"Yeah, we don't have the money."
1015
00:54:12,794 --> 00:54:14,149
But after, the same people,
1016
00:54:14,174 --> 00:54:16,300
they were going outside,
telling the press,
1017
00:54:16,325 --> 00:54:18,050
"No, we are doing this,
we are doing that."
1018
00:54:18,075 --> 00:54:21,340
So then you have to cope with
expectations that you wanted
1019
00:54:21,365 --> 00:54:22,620
to compete for the title,
1020
00:54:22,645 --> 00:54:24,940
but at the same time
you knew that you couldn't.
1021
00:54:24,965 --> 00:54:27,380
The world
stock markets are stampeding,
1022
00:54:27,405 --> 00:54:29,490
and investors are diving for cover.
1023
00:54:29,515 --> 00:54:31,410
TRADERS YELLING
1024
00:54:31,435 --> 00:54:35,660
The financial crash made
a bad situation much worse.
1025
00:54:35,685 --> 00:54:39,490
Hicks had lost more money than
Gillett, and wanted to sell.
1026
00:54:39,515 --> 00:54:44,480
The pair fell out, and began using
everybody in the club as a pawn.
1027
00:54:44,505 --> 00:54:47,280
It was meltdown.
It was civil war within the club,
1028
00:54:47,305 --> 00:54:50,480
and it was civil war
between Gillett and Hicks.
1029
00:54:50,505 --> 00:54:55,039
Rafa was at odds with Rick Parry,
who got sacked by Tom Hicks.
1030
00:54:55,064 --> 00:54:58,430
Rick needs to resign from
Liverpool Football Club.
1031
00:54:58,455 --> 00:55:01,249
You certainly
have to have the ability to work
1032
00:55:01,274 --> 00:55:02,840
with your general manager,
1033
00:55:02,865 --> 00:55:06,430
and I think Rick's proven
he just can't do that.
1034
00:55:08,814 --> 00:55:11,039
He wrote to me saying I'm fired
and I kind of wrote back
1035
00:55:11,064 --> 00:55:13,510
and said, "No, I'm not,
because you can't do that."
1036
00:55:13,535 --> 00:55:15,840
We're trying to get on with
the football, which is why
1037
00:55:15,865 --> 00:55:17,610
I'm still here.
There's a job to be done.
1038
00:55:17,635 --> 00:55:20,360
There are big matches to be played.
That's where the focus should be.
1039
00:55:20,385 --> 00:55:22,039
This is a sideshow.
1040
00:55:22,064 --> 00:55:24,480
You look at what's happened
under Rick's leadership,
1041
00:55:24,505 --> 00:55:25,789
it's been a disaster.
1042
00:55:25,814 --> 00:55:29,480
We've fallen so far behind
the other top clubs.
1043
00:55:29,505 --> 00:55:31,890
I think the mistake
he made, which...
1044
00:55:33,175 --> 00:55:36,530
...wasn't very smart with hindsight,
he used the word "disaster"
1045
00:55:36,555 --> 00:55:38,430
on the Hillsborough anniversary.
1046
00:55:38,455 --> 00:55:40,530
That was not the wisest word to use.
1047
00:55:43,024 --> 00:55:45,480
Despite the infighting
off the pitch,
1048
00:55:45,505 --> 00:55:47,400
on it, Liverpool were flying.
1049
00:55:47,425 --> 00:55:49,039
By the end of 2008,
1050
00:55:49,064 --> 00:55:52,400
they were above Manchester United
at the top of the league.
1051
00:55:52,425 --> 00:55:56,710
But the facts were that the tension
was getting to everybody.
1052
00:55:56,735 --> 00:55:59,350
People talk about the rant
and the interview.
1053
00:55:59,375 --> 00:56:01,280
I'm sure that you will ask me
about that.
1054
00:56:01,305 --> 00:56:04,150
What do you make, though, of
Sir Alex Ferguson's comments
1055
00:56:04,175 --> 00:56:06,070
when he said Liverpool could choke?
1056
00:56:06,095 --> 00:56:07,530
I was surprised,
1057
00:56:07,555 --> 00:56:09,510
but I have to talk about facts.
1058
00:56:11,024 --> 00:56:14,200
I have my reasons —
I can tell you off the record...
1059
00:56:14,225 --> 00:56:17,320
But I knew 100% that I needed
to do something.
1060
00:56:17,345 --> 00:56:20,119
Only Mr Ferguson can talk
about the future, can talk
1061
00:56:20,144 --> 00:56:22,450
about referees,
can talk about all these things,
1062
00:56:22,475 --> 00:56:23,960
and nothing happens.
1063
00:56:23,985 --> 00:56:27,280
If he'd asked me in advance,
did I think it was a good idea,
1064
00:56:27,305 --> 00:56:29,960
I think I would've said,
"Rafa, I would leave it.
1065
00:56:29,985 --> 00:56:31,320
"| wouldn't do it."
1066
00:56:31,345 --> 00:56:33,640
He's the only manager in the league,
1067
00:56:33,665 --> 00:56:36,200
in the English league that cannot
be punished for these things.
1068
00:56:36,225 --> 00:56:39,119
And it was always Alex Ferguson
this, and Alex Ferguson that.
1069
00:56:39,144 --> 00:56:41,710
And he just went on and on!
1070
00:56:41,735 --> 00:56:43,710
I am talking about facts.
1071
00:56:43,735 --> 00:56:46,200
I am not talking about my
impressions. Things that everybody
1072
00:56:46,225 --> 00:56:48,919
can see every single week.
1073
00:56:48,944 --> 00:56:52,119
And then at the end
gave this lovely smile!
1074
00:56:52,144 --> 00:56:56,350
100%, I can tell you, check
what I said, and everything
1075
00:56:56,375 --> 00:56:59,039
what I said was spot-on.
1076
00:56:59,064 --> 00:57:02,480
You just imagine this picture of Sir
Alex with his feet on his desk
1077
00:57:02,505 --> 00:57:04,789
and having a nice glass of red,
thinking,
1078
00:57:04,814 --> 00:57:06,560
"Yeah, nice bit of work, that."
1079
00:57:11,225 --> 00:57:13,680
When we were going to Old Trafford,
1080
00:57:13,705 --> 00:57:16,840
there was a father with his son
and they have a banner,
1081
00:57:16,865 --> 00:57:18,249
"Rafa's cracking up."
1082
00:57:19,305 --> 00:57:21,760
And we beat them 1-4,
so we were not cracking up.
1083
00:57:21,785 --> 00:57:23,200
We were doing well.
1084
00:57:23,225 --> 00:57:26,320
But Manchester United,
they were doing better.
1085
00:57:32,735 --> 00:57:36,150
In a post-fact world,
Liverpool were brilliant...
1086
00:57:36,175 --> 00:57:38,600
They lost only one game
in the New Year.
1087
00:57:38,625 --> 00:57:41,239
But the actual fact
was that Manchester United
1088
00:57:41,264 --> 00:57:43,710
had too many games in hand.
1089
00:57:43,735 --> 00:57:46,600
Liverpool missed out
on the title again.
1090
00:57:47,985 --> 00:57:51,989
The good thing — by 2009,
at least we were contenders.
1091
00:57:52,014 --> 00:57:56,810
The worst thing of all was getting
to January, February and knowing
1092
00:57:56,835 --> 00:57:58,890
you couldn't beat United. That...
1093
00:58:00,665 --> 00:58:02,480
That... That was awful.
1094
00:58:04,305 --> 00:58:07,239
Fans had now had enough
of their American owners.
1095
00:58:07,264 --> 00:58:10,680
The huge loan repayments were
overshadowing everything.
1096
00:58:10,705 --> 00:58:13,710
Gillett and Hicks put
Liverpool up for sale.
1097
00:58:15,264 --> 00:58:17,919
It was chaos.
No-one knew what was happening.
1098
00:58:17,944 --> 00:58:20,890
And, of course, RBS keep upping
the ante by saying,
1099
00:58:20,915 --> 00:58:23,350
"The club can go bankrupt,
the club can go bankrupt."
1100
00:58:23,375 --> 00:58:27,680
I don't think the club was ever
in danger of going bankrupt.
1101
00:58:27,705 --> 00:58:31,400
Let's face it, if they would've sold
Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard,
1102
00:58:31,425 --> 00:58:33,960
they could've almost
balanced the books.
1103
00:58:38,555 --> 00:58:41,280
With the situation deteriorating,
Liverpool began
1104
00:58:41,305 --> 00:58:43,280
to lose key personnel.
1105
00:58:43,305 --> 00:58:46,960
Chief executive Rick Parry
had had enough and left.
1106
00:58:46,985 --> 00:58:51,760
Now it was time for Benitez
to go, by... mutual consent.
1107
00:58:51,785 --> 00:58:53,989
No, I don't think
that we need to talk
1108
00:58:54,014 --> 00:58:55,600
about what they promised to me.
1109
00:58:55,625 --> 00:58:57,430
It's just that
what they say publicly.
1110
00:58:57,455 --> 00:58:59,919
So you could see the new
stadium and all these things
1111
00:58:59,944 --> 00:59:02,960
that they said, and it's very
clear that it's over there.
1112
00:59:02,985 --> 00:59:04,960
So you can read the press
at this time
1113
00:59:04,985 --> 00:59:06,239
and then you will understand,
1114
00:59:06,264 --> 00:59:08,200
everybody will understand
that what they said
1115
00:59:08,225 --> 00:59:09,480
and what they did.
1116
00:59:14,944 --> 00:59:19,710
At that time,
the organisation was in freefall.
1117
00:59:19,735 --> 00:59:24,350
Roy came in, probably during that
most difficult period for the club.
1118
00:59:24,375 --> 00:59:27,880
In fairness to Roy Hodgson,
when he got the job,
1119
00:59:27,905 --> 00:59:29,600
the club was in limbo,
1120
00:59:29,625 --> 00:59:33,350
and I think he was appointed
as a safe pair of hands.
1121
00:59:33,375 --> 00:59:34,960
How we looking?
1122
00:59:34,985 --> 00:59:38,960
It's a bit disappointing that,
on your first day, it's matters
1123
00:59:38,985 --> 00:59:41,919
of money which take precedence,
really, over football matters,
1124
00:59:41,944 --> 00:59:44,320
you know. I took the job
because I wanted to be manager
1125
00:59:44,345 --> 00:59:46,320
of Liverpool Football Club.
1126
00:59:47,785 --> 00:59:51,760
Got him at first base, and the
Boston Red Sox can finally say it —
1127
00:59:51,785 --> 00:59:54,200
They are champions of the world!
1128
00:59:55,785 --> 00:59:58,960
Amidst the chaos
came some credibility.
1129
00:59:58,985 --> 01:00:02,430
John Henry's Fenway Sports Group
had taken the Boston Red Sox
1130
01:00:02,455 --> 01:00:06,840
to baseball's World Series
for the first time in 86 years.
1131
01:00:06,865 --> 01:00:10,560
Now they wanted to extend
their franchise to football.
1132
01:00:10,585 --> 01:00:13,239
A fan in the States
1133
01:00:13,264 --> 01:00:16,430
contacted John Henry to suggest
1134
01:00:16,455 --> 01:00:18,919
that the club was an asset
1135
01:00:18,944 --> 01:00:20,280
going on the cheap
1136
01:00:20,305 --> 01:00:23,400
and he should take a look at it.
1137
01:00:23,425 --> 01:00:26,320
There was talk at the time
of administration.
1138
01:00:26,345 --> 01:00:29,039
There... There... There...
1139
01:00:29,064 --> 01:00:31,840
There was a lot of concern
for this club.
1140
01:00:31,865 --> 01:00:36,840
But from our standpoint,
it was a sleeping giant.
1141
01:00:38,425 --> 01:00:40,320
CROWD CHANTS
1142
01:00:40,345 --> 01:00:44,480
FSG made an offer of £300 million
for the club.
1143
01:00:44,505 --> 01:00:48,480
The offer was rejected by Gillett
and Hicks, who wanted more money.
1144
01:00:48,505 --> 01:00:50,480
Hopefully, I'm hoping
the deal goes through.
1145
01:00:50,505 --> 01:00:52,760
They've had enough time now,
Hicks and that.
1146
01:00:52,785 --> 01:00:54,840
It's just a joke, what they've
done with the club.
1147
01:00:54,865 --> 01:00:57,481
As long as, I think, Gillett and
Hicks have gone, I think then it's
1148
01:00:57,505 --> 01:00:58,710
the start of a new era.
1149
01:00:58,735 --> 01:01:01,600
It's pretty understandable, isn't
it, that they're going to have one
1150
01:01:01,625 --> 01:01:04,540
last throw of the dice and try and
find a way of preserving something.
1151
01:01:04,565 --> 01:01:08,700
One last throw of the dice
just to go down, um...
1152
01:01:08,725 --> 01:01:11,980
...leaving an ever more
negative legacy.
1153
01:01:12,005 --> 01:01:15,830
But the Liverpool board
could overrule the American duo.
1154
01:01:15,855 --> 01:01:19,009
Now things turned really nasty.
1155
01:01:19,034 --> 01:01:20,860
There's some things
I can't talk about,
1156
01:01:20,885 --> 01:01:25,189
but what I would say is that there
were some very, very tough clays,
1157
01:01:25,214 --> 01:01:28,900
and not least when we got
sued for $1 billion each.
1158
01:01:30,525 --> 01:01:34,090
It ended up, sadly, in the court,
which, you know, I don't think
1159
01:01:34,115 --> 01:01:37,370
achieved anything for anyone,
and particularly for such a
1160
01:01:37,395 --> 01:01:40,420
longstanding organisation
like Liverpool Football Club,
1161
01:01:40,445 --> 01:01:41,860
it was quite sad.
1162
01:01:41,885 --> 01:01:44,139
It's been a bitter
and lengthy battle,
1163
01:01:44,164 --> 01:01:47,860
but tonight, Liverpool Football Club
is in new hands.
1164
01:01:47,885 --> 01:01:50,939
Tonight, amid jubilant scenes,
the Liverpool board
1165
01:01:50,964 --> 01:01:55,189
got what they wanted — a deal
with Henry worth £300 million,
1166
01:01:55,214 --> 01:01:57,500
and writing off the club's debts.
1167
01:01:57,525 --> 01:02:00,189
I am proud and humbled.
1168
01:02:00,214 --> 01:02:07,059
We have a lot of work to do,
and I can't tell you how happy I am
1169
01:02:07,084 --> 01:02:10,090
that we've finally,
finally got to this point.
1170
01:02:15,164 --> 01:02:17,700
I've got john Henry's autograph
and a picture of him.
1171
01:02:17,725 --> 01:02:19,059
What did he say to you?
1172
01:02:19,084 --> 01:02:22,189
.. "You want to shake hands?"
1173
01:02:22,214 --> 01:02:24,580
After a long period of turmoil,
1174
01:02:24,605 --> 01:02:29,059
FSG were determined to get
Liverpool back on track quickly.
1175
01:02:29,084 --> 01:02:32,009
Results under Roy Hodgson
had not been good.
1176
01:02:32,034 --> 01:02:35,540
Their first task was to
remove him from his duties.
1177
01:02:35,565 --> 01:02:37,939
In his place came a familiar face.
1178
01:02:39,885 --> 01:02:44,090
If there's one person alive
today in the history
1179
01:02:44,115 --> 01:02:48,540
of Liverpool Football Club who
has the talent and the ability
1180
01:02:48,565 --> 01:02:51,090
and the personality to stop
1181
01:02:51,115 --> 01:02:53,980
that plate spinning and to bring
1182
01:02:54,005 --> 01:02:55,730
everybody back together,
1183
01:02:55,755 --> 01:02:58,860
Kenny, for me,
was the obvious choice.
1184
01:02:58,885 --> 01:03:02,139
We were unstable as an organisation,
1185
01:03:02,164 --> 01:03:07,139
and the fact is that, from that day
forward, he has been — continues
1186
01:03:07,164 --> 01:03:10,259
to be — someone that
the club rallies around.
1187
01:03:11,645 --> 01:03:15,580
I don't think anybody expected him
to stay for long.
1188
01:03:15,605 --> 01:03:19,420
I think it was perhaps only
a stopgap, but it was just...
1189
01:03:19,445 --> 01:03:22,860
...because you felt safe. You felt
safe with Kenny because his heart
1190
01:03:22,885 --> 01:03:26,370
was where your heart was
and so, you know, he was welcome.
1191
01:03:27,855 --> 01:03:30,620
Kenny got the job
for the second time.
1192
01:03:30,645 --> 01:03:34,470
It was a good move, because in many
ways it appeased the supporters.
1193
01:03:34,495 --> 01:03:36,059
There was a League Cup win
1194
01:03:36,084 --> 01:03:38,860
at Wembley, as well,
which is always good.
1195
01:03:40,725 --> 01:03:44,780
After so much difficult
and dark clays,
1196
01:03:44,805 --> 01:03:49,259
to be back as Liverpool Football
Club, winning a trophy and winning
1197
01:03:49,284 --> 01:03:52,540
it with, you know, with the King in
charge — it doesn't get any better,
1198
01:03:52,565 --> 01:03:54,580
to be honest.
1199
01:03:54,605 --> 01:03:58,259
The club had begun to heal,
but to return to the success
1200
01:03:58,284 --> 01:04:00,650
of the past, they were going
to have to turn their back
1201
01:04:00,675 --> 01:04:04,009
on tradition and rip up
the Liverpool rule book.
1202
01:04:05,395 --> 01:04:08,860
I don't think that
you can win in any sport
1203
01:04:08,885 --> 01:04:11,700
unless you attack every avenue
1204
01:04:11,725 --> 01:04:14,780
you have, to try to excel.
1205
01:04:14,805 --> 01:04:18,780
I was determined to see whether
or not it would be possible
1206
01:04:18,805 --> 01:04:21,179
to use data analysis to help.
1207
01:04:22,395 --> 01:04:26,110
Every aspect of the club
went under the microscope.
1208
01:04:26,135 --> 01:04:29,860
From diet, to player improvement,
to player purchases...
1209
01:04:29,885 --> 01:04:32,730
No stone was left unanalysed.
1210
01:04:32,755 --> 01:04:36,290
That was about bringing in
the right people who started to
1211
01:04:36,315 --> 01:04:41,780
develop our own sort of bespoke
analysis and scouting systems,
1212
01:04:41,805 --> 01:04:46,780
and it was more one of not
having a single individual
1213
01:04:46,805 --> 01:04:48,290
choosing the players.
1214
01:04:50,885 --> 01:04:54,420
The new way of working
also applied to managers.
1215
01:04:54,445 --> 01:04:57,220
It didn't take a data analyst
to figure out that league results
1216
01:04:57,245 --> 01:04:59,290
weren't great under Kenny.
1217
01:04:59,315 --> 01:05:02,860
Having unified the club,
his time came to an end.
1218
01:05:04,084 --> 01:05:08,980
Kenny gives me a hard time still
about that, but... And that's fine.
1219
01:05:10,365 --> 01:05:12,179
It was, of course, results.
1220
01:05:12,204 --> 01:05:16,900
And then I think also the ownership
wanted a different, you know,
1221
01:05:16,925 --> 01:05:20,059
a more... Let's call
it a more modern coach
1222
01:05:20,084 --> 01:05:21,750
with a more modern view.
1223
01:05:25,595 --> 01:05:28,820
I remember saying on the first day
Brendan arrived in Liverpool,
1224
01:05:28,845 --> 01:05:32,009
saying to him... We were waiting
to go to do the press conference.
1225
01:05:32,034 --> 01:05:34,900
I remember saying to him, you know,
just as somebody who grew up here,
1226
01:05:34,925 --> 01:05:38,780
like, don't underestimate
the size of this place.
1227
01:05:38,805 --> 01:05:41,570
You know, it's been 20 years
since they've won the title,
1228
01:05:41,595 --> 01:05:45,290
and for sure, and the realism is we
might not be ready for the title
1229
01:05:45,315 --> 01:05:48,570
now, but the process begins today
1230
01:05:48,595 --> 01:05:50,420
and it's a new cycle.
1231
01:05:50,445 --> 01:05:53,470
It was such a great learning
curve for me, Liverpool.
1232
01:05:53,495 --> 01:05:56,420
You understand the size
of Liverpool,
1233
01:05:56,445 --> 01:06:00,820
but you don't really, truly
understand until you're there.
1234
01:06:00,845 --> 01:06:04,090
Rodgers may have been a modern
manager, but there were early
1235
01:06:04,115 --> 01:06:08,059
tensions over transfer policy,
which led to a very public fallout
1236
01:06:08,084 --> 01:06:10,929
between the new coach and the board.
1237
01:06:10,954 --> 01:06:16,570
So this created this... this problem
which became one of the most
1238
01:06:16,595 --> 01:06:18,420
common headlines of the era.
1239
01:06:18,445 --> 01:06:20,980
You know, "Rodgers versus
the transfer committee."
1240
01:06:21,005 --> 01:06:25,009
And it was interesting, because
I don't remember a single time
1241
01:06:25,034 --> 01:06:28,139
in that process where
we had a player that we brought
1242
01:06:28,164 --> 01:06:32,700
to the table in those... in those
committee or group meetings
1243
01:06:32,725 --> 01:06:36,290
that we didn't all end up
agreeing on, mostly.
1244
01:06:36,315 --> 01:06:38,290
Despite a tricky start,
1245
01:06:38,315 --> 01:06:40,860
Rodgers began to mould a great side.
1246
01:06:40,885 --> 01:06:44,700
Steven Gerrard was still there,
along with a young Raheem Sterling.
1247
01:06:44,725 --> 01:06:47,259
But the player that spearheaded
the Rodgers revolution
1248
01:06:47,284 --> 01:06:49,980
was a controversial,
hungry Uruguayan...
1249
01:06:50,005 --> 01:06:51,650
Luis Suarez.
1250
01:06:51,675 --> 01:06:55,730
He was a dream to work with
because he had that commitment
1251
01:06:55,755 --> 01:06:59,540
and drive to be the very, very best,
and I think, in the two years
1252
01:06:59,565 --> 01:07:02,139
that we worked together,
his numbers proved that
1253
01:07:02,164 --> 01:07:04,139
we worked very well together.
1254
01:07:04,164 --> 01:07:09,780
And Suarez's control
is absolutely sublime!
1255
01:07:11,485 --> 01:07:13,700
Great to watch.
1256
01:07:13,725 --> 01:07:15,540
Great fun.
1257
01:07:15,565 --> 01:07:19,620
Till he started biting people, and
then it all sort of went shipshape!
1258
01:07:19,645 --> 01:07:23,370
Going into the second season,
February on, when we were starting
1259
01:07:23,395 --> 01:07:26,620
to get a run, was first v second
when we played Arsenal.
1260
01:07:26,645 --> 01:07:29,090
It was just breathtaking football.
1261
01:07:29,115 --> 01:07:31,620
Sturridge in on goal for four!
1262
01:07:34,034 --> 01:07:37,750
I do feel that Brendan Rodgers
was almost the start,
1263
01:07:37,775 --> 01:07:42,009
the very start of a consistent
mounted challenge
1264
01:07:42,034 --> 01:07:44,199
and a consistently good team.
1265
01:07:46,695 --> 01:07:49,460
In 2014, you've got three
games left.
1266
01:07:49,485 --> 01:07:51,929
All you've got to do
is stay in front.
1267
01:07:57,445 --> 01:07:59,090
The Chelsea game at home,
1268
01:07:59,115 --> 01:08:00,620
we were so, so close.
1269
01:08:00,645 --> 01:08:02,780
It just felt like inches away.
1270
01:08:03,925 --> 01:08:05,650
Oh, Gerrard slipped.
1271
01:08:05,675 --> 01:08:08,179
Ba on to it. Ba against Mignolet
here for Chelsea,
1272
01:08:08,204 --> 01:08:10,929
and Ba scores!
Chelsea have the lead!
1273
01:08:12,825 --> 01:08:16,029
Steven Gerrard slipping is not why
Liverpool didn't win the league.
1274
01:08:16,054 --> 01:08:19,059
You can't just blame it on that,
but of course people loved it,
1275
01:08:19,084 --> 01:08:23,370
that they could turn it on him
and use it against him.
1276
01:08:23,395 --> 01:08:27,420
How anyone can mention Steven
Gerrard and the first thing
1277
01:08:27,445 --> 01:08:30,370
that comes to your mind is,
"Oh yeah, slipping for the title."
1278
01:08:30,395 --> 01:08:34,139
I mean, the things that
that lad did for that club
1279
01:08:34,164 --> 01:08:38,500
and, I mean, it just... Honestly,
it just does my head in, really.
1280
01:08:40,034 --> 01:08:43,290
It was unfortunate, obviously,
what happened to Steven.
1281
01:08:43,315 --> 01:08:47,059
And for me, that was the... That
was the defining game, really.
1282
01:08:47,084 --> 01:08:49,700
It's all about
forgetting the immediate past.
1283
01:08:49,725 --> 01:08:51,820
For Liverpool there can be
no more stumbles.
1284
01:08:51,845 --> 01:08:52,929
They have to win here
1285
01:08:52,954 --> 01:08:55,179
and hope Manchester City slip up.
1286
01:08:55,204 --> 01:08:57,500
Sterling. Suarez! It's three!
1287
01:08:59,845 --> 01:09:02,210
I think we were chasing
the goal difference,
1288
01:09:02,235 --> 01:09:06,780
and I made the point at half-time
in that game specifically that
1289
01:09:06,805 --> 01:09:09,920
I felt we were taking too much
risk in the game.
1290
01:09:09,945 --> 01:09:13,900
Up it goes to Glenn Murray, with
the chest on. Here's Gayle!
1291
01:09:13,925 --> 01:09:15,650
It's 3—3!
1292
01:09:15,675 --> 01:09:19,259
It's all gone wrong,
the title is disappearing!
1293
01:09:21,164 --> 01:09:22,650
We were great going forward.
1294
01:09:22,675 --> 01:09:25,850
We were just that bit
inconsistent defending.
1295
01:09:25,875 --> 01:09:28,500
I've got no doubt, if we'd
Virgil van Dijk in our back four
1296
01:09:28,525 --> 01:09:31,389
at that point, we would've
won the league.
1297
01:09:31,414 --> 01:09:37,079
In two games, the dream has vanished
into an unbelievable nightmare.
1298
01:09:39,255 --> 01:09:41,929
We were genuinely very,
very close to doing it.
1299
01:09:41,954 --> 01:09:44,420
But unfortunately,
destiny didn't take us there.
1300
01:09:44,445 --> 01:09:47,929
We just couldn't quite get
over the line.
1301
01:09:47,954 --> 01:09:51,700
Despite reaching two semifinals
the following season, Liverpool
1302
01:09:51,725 --> 01:09:54,139
were well off the pace
in the league.
1303
01:09:54,164 --> 01:09:57,730
The club, it seemed,
was in transition again.
1304
01:09:57,755 --> 01:10:00,929
We'd obviously lost Luis,
who was a talisman, and really
1305
01:10:00,954 --> 01:10:02,730
the team in terms of how we played.
1306
01:10:02,755 --> 01:10:07,370
So we spent two seasons in building
a model of intensity and aggression
1307
01:10:07,395 --> 01:10:09,780
and pressing and being creative.
1308
01:10:12,055 --> 01:10:15,340
Without Luis,
we never replaced that.
1309
01:10:15,365 --> 01:10:20,139
I don't think there was any huge
plan to sack Brendan Rodgers
1310
01:10:20,164 --> 01:10:22,370
when they did. We played Everton,
1311
01:10:22,395 --> 01:10:25,700
and in the press conference,
Rodgers said...
1312
01:10:25,725 --> 01:10:27,929
We have to build
something here again.
1313
01:10:27,954 --> 01:10:32,009
So it's going to take time,
whether that's me or someone else.
1314
01:10:32,034 --> 01:10:35,159
And while he was right,
Fenway believed that the players
1315
01:10:35,184 --> 01:10:40,290
that they'd brought in after Suarez
were capable of winning the league.
1316
01:10:46,414 --> 01:10:50,540
At the time, we kind of thought...
it seemed a little bit strange
1317
01:10:50,565 --> 01:10:53,780
and maybe a little bit harsh,
and then you think,
1318
01:10:53,805 --> 01:10:56,420
"Ah, yeah, BUT...
1319
01:10:56,445 --> 01:10:58,009
"..who came in his place?"
1320
01:11:00,145 --> 01:11:01,670
Hello.
1321
01:11:07,204 --> 01:11:11,740
We were on a family holiday
Lisbon, if I'm right.
1322
01:11:11,765 --> 01:11:15,460
I got a call from my agent
and he told me
1323
01:11:15,485 --> 01:11:18,370
about the interest of Liverpool.
1324
01:11:18,395 --> 01:11:20,900
So we had our plans in that time,
1325
01:11:20,925 --> 01:11:23,389
that moment, looked completely
different, actually,
1326
01:11:23,414 --> 01:11:27,850
because we wanted
to make more holiday.
1327
01:11:30,515 --> 01:11:32,490
And then I told my family
and the boys
1328
01:11:32,515 --> 01:11:35,059
were immediately like, "Yes!"
1329
01:11:35,084 --> 01:11:39,929
And I was looking in Ulla's eyes
and she was, "Uh, when?"
1330
01:11:47,154 --> 01:11:51,340
When you make such a big promise,
like I did after I left Dortmund —
1331
01:11:51,365 --> 01:11:54,700
We will have a year just for us —
1332
01:11:54,725 --> 01:11:57,770
And after four months, you come
around the corner with different
1333
01:11:57,795 --> 01:12:00,350
plans and you have to ask, at least.
1334
01:12:02,214 --> 01:12:05,300
I remember watching jurgen
in Dortmund when I was still
1335
01:12:05,325 --> 01:12:08,990
really a student of the game
and thinking, "That's the kind
1336
01:12:09,015 --> 01:12:10,910
"of football we want to play."
1337
01:12:10,935 --> 01:12:13,750
I think they called it
"heavy metal football".
1338
01:12:13,775 --> 01:12:16,860
When Mike Gordon called me
one day and said, "We're going
1339
01:12:16,885 --> 01:12:20,430
"to have a chance to meet
with jurgen in New York,"
1340
01:12:20,455 --> 01:12:22,710
to me that was one most exciting
phone calls I've got
1341
01:12:22,735 --> 01:12:25,930
during the ten years that
we've been with the club.
1342
01:12:28,035 --> 01:12:32,139
We met in New York in some law
offices and it was as secretive
1343
01:12:32,164 --> 01:12:33,580
as it could be.
1344
01:12:33,605 --> 01:12:39,269
And for whatever reason, we got away
with it, without it making the news.
1345
01:12:39,294 --> 01:12:42,630
I was pretty much on fire
from the first second —
1346
01:12:42,655 --> 01:12:44,500
They didn't have to
convince me, really.
1347
01:12:44,525 --> 01:12:46,790
Well, I'm a totally normal guy.
1348
01:12:46,815 --> 01:12:49,269
I'm the normal one,
maybe if you want this.
1349
01:12:49,294 --> 01:12:51,189
LAUGHTER
1350
01:12:52,964 --> 01:12:55,750
jurgen Klopp the manager
is a fantastic manager,
1351
01:12:55,775 --> 01:12:58,710
I think one of the best
in the world.
1352
01:12:58,735 --> 01:13:00,389
Jurgen is a perfect fit.
1353
01:13:00,414 --> 01:13:04,220
Leadership is a transfer of emotion,
1354
01:13:04,245 --> 01:13:06,189
and he does that well.
1355
01:13:06,214 --> 01:13:09,790
Jurgen Klopp the person
is what you see on TV.
1356
01:13:09,815 --> 01:13:14,110
You know, he's a very open,
funny, bubbly guy.
1357
01:13:14,135 --> 01:13:17,139
Sometimes he'll go shout
about something.
1358
01:13:17,164 --> 01:13:19,660
Even when you're scoring goals,
he scream.
1359
01:13:19,685 --> 01:13:22,290
Obviously he's the boss.
That's what he shows as well.
1360
01:13:22,315 --> 01:13:26,270
But you can always talk to him and
he will be there for you as well.
1361
01:13:26,295 --> 01:13:28,520
I think he gets the Scouse
humour, if you like.
1362
01:13:28,545 --> 01:13:30,239
The next one is...
1363
01:13:30,264 --> 01:13:31,909
Givin' it bifters.
1364
01:13:33,855 --> 01:13:36,909
I cannot act, the last thing
I can do is act, acting.
1365
01:13:36,934 --> 01:13:40,109
That's why I admire actors so much,
because I've no chance.
1366
01:13:40,134 --> 01:13:41,960
Givin' it bifters.
1367
01:13:41,985 --> 01:13:44,989
Anyone who spends any time with
Jurgen, however you feel when you go
1368
01:13:45,014 --> 01:13:47,470
into a room, when you come out
of it, you feel better.
1369
01:13:47,495 --> 01:13:49,650
I love it.
Unless he's shouting at you.
1370
01:13:49,675 --> 01:13:52,109
Despite the smiley demeanour,
he can be angry.
1371
01:13:52,134 --> 01:13:53,630
You wouldn't want to mess with him.
1372
01:13:53,655 --> 01:13:56,520
You know, he's always
up for the fight.
1373
01:13:56,545 --> 01:13:59,109
The Wizard by Black Sabbath
1374
01:14:01,775 --> 01:14:05,190
If I would see another person
doing what I do, I would think,
1375
01:14:05,215 --> 01:14:06,880
"Is he crazy?"
1376
01:14:06,905 --> 01:14:08,600
Well, he's fantastic.
1377
01:14:08,625 --> 01:14:12,039
I think he's like Shanks
in another form.
1378
01:14:12,064 --> 01:14:14,830
That relationship that a coach
1379
01:14:14,855 --> 01:14:18,989
has with the fans dates back
to the Shankly spirit.
1380
01:14:19,014 --> 01:14:22,520
Infectious. I think if you ask all
of the lads, they would say
1381
01:14:22,545 --> 01:14:25,800
the same thing, you know,
what he does for us as players,
1382
01:14:25,825 --> 01:14:28,039
as people, is incredible.
1383
01:14:28,064 --> 01:14:30,159
For me, life is completely
about relationships.
1384
01:14:30,184 --> 01:14:31,880
I don't want to live alone
on a mountain.
1385
01:14:31,905 --> 01:14:34,600
I want to inspire people.
I want to be inspired by people.
1386
01:14:34,625 --> 01:14:37,239
I want to love.
I want to be loved.
1387
01:14:37,264 --> 01:14:42,720
He's a large man with a large heart
and an incredible passion for doing
1388
01:14:42,745 --> 01:14:44,650
things the right way.
1389
01:14:44,675 --> 01:14:49,630
His charisma and his leadership,
and actually his way of working
1390
01:14:49,655 --> 01:14:51,960
has been a breath of fresh air.
1391
01:14:53,014 --> 01:14:56,190
The best word I can say that will
describe this was "boom!"
1392
01:14:56,215 --> 01:14:58,320
LAUGHTER
1393
01:14:58,345 --> 01:15:00,320
"W00! What was this?"
It was really good.
1394
01:15:01,775 --> 01:15:04,440
There was now a real buzz
around Liverpool.
1395
01:15:04,465 --> 01:15:08,270
It was just one part of Klopp's
master plan to reenergise the club
1396
01:15:08,295 --> 01:15:11,000
and create a proper
football culture.
1397
01:15:12,235 --> 01:15:16,880
I think he was trying to create
a special atmosphere not only
1398
01:15:16,905 --> 01:15:20,550
within Melwood
but within the whole club.
1399
01:15:20,575 --> 01:15:22,239
We played West Brom at home.
1400
01:15:22,264 --> 01:15:25,960
We scraped a 2-2 draw.
The end of the game,
1401
01:15:25,985 --> 01:15:27,880
Klopp went onto the pitch,
1402
01:15:27,905 --> 01:15:31,750
he got all the players together
and he applauded all the Kop.
1403
01:15:31,775 --> 01:15:34,080
And the next day
all the journos are going,
1404
01:15:34,105 --> 01:15:35,909
"Well, what was all that about?"
1405
01:15:35,934 --> 01:15:39,960
He said, "Look, if I cannot convince
my supporters, our own supporters,
1406
01:15:39,985 --> 01:15:44,600
"that we can score in the last few
minutes of a game, what's the point
1407
01:15:44,625 --> 01:15:46,680
"of being a manager?"
1408
01:15:46,705 --> 01:15:50,320
We could understand it, because he
was going on to us every single day
1409
01:15:50,345 --> 01:15:54,720
of what he wanted from our
mentality and the never giving up.
1410
01:15:54,745 --> 01:15:57,630
And I feel as though
that West Brom game,
1411
01:15:57,655 --> 01:16:00,680
the things that happened
within the game, he could see
1412
01:16:00,705 --> 01:16:02,830
that that mentality
was starting to change.
1413
01:16:02,855 --> 01:16:05,800
I didn't think about success —
Not about the long—term success,
1414
01:16:05,825 --> 01:16:08,139
winning the trophy,
the title, whatever —
1415
01:16:08,164 --> 01:16:10,830
But I thought about, "How
can we improve the situation?"
1416
01:16:10,855 --> 01:16:13,840
So I had to remind the people maybe
that this is a fair business,
1417
01:16:13,865 --> 01:16:17,480
if you want. We give all on the
pitch and you have to give all
1418
01:16:17,505 --> 01:16:18,999
in the stands, as well.
1419
01:16:19,024 --> 01:16:22,530
We had a few
conversations about that!
1420
01:16:22,555 --> 01:16:25,400
Liverpool were fighting again,
the Klopp way...
1421
01:16:25,425 --> 01:16:27,890
High energy, high press“
1422
01:16:27,915 --> 01:16:29,760
The fans loved it.
1423
01:16:29,785 --> 01:16:32,010
And jurgen loved the fans.
1424
01:16:32,035 --> 01:16:34,090
Klopp epitomises what Scousers like.
1425
01:16:34,115 --> 01:16:37,960
They like the fact that,
you know, he shows that emotion
1426
01:16:37,985 --> 01:16:39,550
and he's connected with them.
1427
01:16:39,575 --> 01:16:42,919
Klopp straight away had become
a hero to the Liverpool fans,
1428
01:16:42,944 --> 01:16:45,010
especially with his antics
on the touchline
1429
01:16:45,035 --> 01:16:46,369
and the way he carries on.
1430
01:16:46,394 --> 01:16:48,890
You know, it's just he's
passionate through and through,
1431
01:16:48,915 --> 01:16:50,970
which is what the Liverpool fans
are looking for.
1432
01:16:50,995 --> 01:16:53,369
That's why we're up here now,
trying to get a glimpse!
1433
01:16:53,394 --> 01:16:55,530
We only come for Klopp.
1434
01:17:01,865 --> 01:17:04,560
I metjurgen in his office
at Melwood.
1435
01:17:05,865 --> 01:17:09,690
I hope he doesn't mind me
saying this, that his son came
1436
01:17:09,715 --> 01:17:14,010
over and watched a game
at Liverpool, went home and told his
1437
01:17:14,035 --> 01:17:17,450
dad, he said, "Oh, my gosh, Dad,"
he said, "the people of
1438
01:17:17,475 --> 01:17:21,280
"Liverpool, they're amazing, the way
they stick together, the support
1439
01:17:21,305 --> 01:17:23,690
"they give the families
of Hillsborough."
1440
01:17:23,715 --> 01:17:28,890
And he just said, "That was
one of the reasons why I came,
1441
01:17:28,915 --> 01:17:31,690
"because of the people,
the way they believe
1442
01:17:31,715 --> 01:17:36,939
"in what I believe in,
is fairness, justice."
1443
01:17:36,964 --> 01:17:39,990
And I thought that was
really nice of him.
1444
01:17:42,575 --> 01:17:47,110
The families of the 96 had spent
years fighting for the truth.
1445
01:17:47,135 --> 01:17:49,110
Inquests and inquiries were held,
1446
01:17:49,135 --> 01:17:52,550
but no sense of justice
was felt within the city.
1447
01:17:52,575 --> 01:17:56,500
In 2016, finally, a second inquiry
1448
01:17:56,525 --> 01:17:59,860
returned a conclusion
of unlawful killing.
1449
01:17:59,885 --> 01:18:03,059
Your loved ones
were unlawfully killed.
1450
01:18:03,084 --> 01:18:06,220
And, no, the fans were not to blame.
1451
01:18:06,245 --> 01:18:08,500
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
1452
01:18:12,375 --> 01:18:15,580
This was by no means the end,
but it was a result
1453
01:18:15,605 --> 01:18:19,139
that could in some way
start to heal the pain.
1454
01:18:22,294 --> 01:18:25,750
On the pitch, Liverpool were now
scoring goals for fun...
1455
01:18:25,775 --> 01:18:28,220
Mane!
1456
01:18:28,245 --> 01:18:32,030
...thanks to a new rock and roll
front three. While scoring goals
1457
01:18:32,055 --> 01:18:35,269
wasn't a problem,
stopping them still was.
1458
01:18:35,294 --> 01:18:41,030
Liverpool needed an organiser, and
they found it in Virgil van Dijk.
1459
01:18:41,055 --> 01:18:43,860
Virgil van Dijk on debut!
1460
01:18:44,935 --> 01:18:49,139
He made an immediate impact and
helped take them back to the final
1461
01:18:49,164 --> 01:18:50,910
of the Champions League.
1462
01:18:56,214 --> 01:18:59,220
They got to the final, and that gave
them a belief that they could get
1463
01:18:59,245 --> 01:19:02,030
there and compete.
But the next thing you've got to do
1464
01:19:02,055 --> 01:19:04,110
is get over the hump
and win the trophy.
1465
01:19:04,135 --> 01:19:07,139
Salah's gone down. Yeah.
That doesn't look too good.
1466
01:19:07,164 --> 01:19:09,630
He's got a blow in the face,
I think. Shoulder?
1467
01:19:09,655 --> 01:19:12,030
I don't know how to
describe it, but it's...
1468
01:19:12,055 --> 01:19:13,389
It was so sad for me.
1469
01:19:13,414 --> 01:19:17,580
It's, like, one of my
worst time in football.
1470
01:19:17,605 --> 01:19:21,990
Well, he's in tears because of
the pain and the agony of knowing
1471
01:19:22,015 --> 01:19:25,670
that he's about to leave
the Champions League final.
1472
01:19:25,695 --> 01:19:28,269
I don't know, I don't want to be
getting emotional with that,
1473
01:19:28,294 --> 01:19:30,420
but it was really bad.
1474
01:19:30,445 --> 01:19:33,939
Klopp never really
thought about goalkeepers
1475
01:19:33,964 --> 01:19:37,910
in his management career, but he
come to Liverpool and he inherited
1476
01:19:37,935 --> 01:19:41,389
a problem. So they persisted with
Mignolet. Lots of mistakes,
1477
01:19:41,414 --> 01:19:44,269
lots of errors.
Then they brought Karius in.
1478
01:19:44,294 --> 01:19:47,910
Ah! Oh! It's in! Thrown out
by Karius, and it's in the net!
1479
01:19:47,935 --> 01:19:50,830
A freak goal in
the Champions League final.
1480
01:19:50,855 --> 01:19:53,139
He cost them a Champions League.
1481
01:19:53,164 --> 01:19:55,139
Here's Bale shooting
from long range.
1482
01:19:55,164 --> 01:19:56,830
What a mistake by Karius.
1483
01:19:57,805 --> 01:20:00,750
At that point, Klopp goes,
"Enough is enough.
1484
01:20:00,775 --> 01:20:02,910
"We need a top-class goalkeeper."
1485
01:20:02,935 --> 01:20:05,269
They went and bought Alisson Becker.
1486
01:20:05,294 --> 01:20:06,939
It's so hard to get to that point.
1487
01:20:06,964 --> 01:20:11,110
And then if you can't, you can't
win the final match, particularly
1488
01:20:11,135 --> 01:20:14,780
the way I think we lost it,
that was hard.
1489
01:20:14,805 --> 01:20:17,830
But I rememberjurgen saying
at the time, "We'll be back,
1490
01:20:17,855 --> 01:20:19,420
"we'll be back,"
1491
01:20:19,445 --> 01:20:21,990
and damned if we weren't!
1492
01:20:22,015 --> 01:20:25,139
Klopp now had the Premier League
in his sights.
1493
01:20:25,164 --> 01:20:29,220
The target was to overcome incumbent
champions Manchester City,
1494
01:20:29,245 --> 01:20:31,189
who'd broken the 100—point barrier
1495
01:20:31,214 --> 01:20:33,350
for the first time
the previous season.
1496
01:20:33,375 --> 01:20:37,420
What ensued was one of the greatest
battles in sporting history.
1497
01:20:37,445 --> 01:20:39,269
Sterling to Sane...
1498
01:20:39,294 --> 01:20:40,939
Sane!
1499
01:20:42,495 --> 01:20:47,269
Liverpool lost just one game all
season — but it was against City,
1500
01:20:47,294 --> 01:20:51,700
who went on to win the league by
a single point on the final day.
1501
01:20:51,725 --> 01:20:56,500
Manchester City are there.
Premier League champions once more!
1502
01:20:57,725 --> 01:21:02,830
To finish the end of the season on
97 points and not win the league...
1503
01:21:02,855 --> 01:21:07,309
In fact, lose it by one point to
Manchester City — is incredible.
1504
01:21:07,334 --> 01:21:11,059
Yeah, it was obviously bitterly
disappointing. To have such
1505
01:21:11,084 --> 01:21:14,830
an incredible season
but just to come up short...
1506
01:21:15,805 --> 01:21:18,269
...was hard to take.
1507
01:21:18,294 --> 01:21:19,630
I enjoyed every bit of it.
1508
01:21:19,655 --> 01:21:22,340
And I know that after the Wolves
game, our last game of the season,
1509
01:21:22,365 --> 01:21:26,750
that I wanted to at least be
there again with the same amount
1510
01:21:26,775 --> 01:21:28,860
of points, and win the league.
1511
01:21:32,084 --> 01:21:34,860
Solace did come
in the Champions League.
1512
01:21:34,885 --> 01:21:36,860
The big European nights were back,
1513
01:21:36,885 --> 01:21:38,780
and now there was one that topped
1514
01:21:38,805 --> 01:21:42,830
them all. We came into Anfield
in the semifinals against Barcelona
1515
01:21:42,855 --> 01:21:44,420
down three to nothing.
1516
01:21:44,445 --> 01:21:49,030
To come back was an
extraordinary experience.
1517
01:21:49,055 --> 01:21:52,139
Oh! It's in! Ohhh, he's put it in!
1518
01:21:52,164 --> 01:21:57,420
It's Origi! Liverpool 4 Barcelona O!
1519
01:21:57,445 --> 01:22:00,550
The greatest European
comeback ever.
1520
01:22:00,575 --> 01:22:04,470
Well, we all know that magic happens
at Anfield. European nights
1521
01:22:04,495 --> 01:22:06,700
are just different at Anfield
to any other place.
1522
01:22:06,725 --> 01:22:08,389
Everybody was, like, crazy.
1523
01:22:08,414 --> 01:22:12,760
That's one of the best games
maybe in the history of football.
1524
01:22:17,345 --> 01:22:21,450
The final was an all-English affair
in Madrid. After the season
1525
01:22:21,475 --> 01:22:23,560
they'd had it was almost unthinkable
1526
01:22:23,585 --> 01:22:27,249
that Liverpool would
finish it empty-handed.
1527
01:22:27,274 --> 01:22:30,369
We were having dinner
before the game.
1528
01:22:30,394 --> 01:22:33,840
Then I think it was me,
Dejan, Bobby, Ali and Virge,
1529
01:22:33,865 --> 01:22:39,200
some big group, and Gini, and we
were talking, like, "We cannot lose
1530
01:22:39,225 --> 01:22:42,090
"two finals in a row.
It just doesn't work."
1531
01:22:42,115 --> 01:22:45,105
If you lost the Champions League,
no-one would remember you,
1532
01:22:45,130 --> 01:22:48,235
because in the end you won nothing.
You didn't win the Premier League,
1533
01:22:48,260 --> 01:22:51,306
didn't win the Champions League
two years in a row. It was crazy.
1534
01:22:51,331 --> 01:22:53,876
It was too much pressure,
to be honest.
1535
01:22:53,901 --> 01:22:55,946
Origi. Left—footed shot.
1536
01:22:55,971 --> 01:22:57,636
He's scored!
1537
01:22:57,661 --> 01:23:01,546
Origi makes it 2-0 to Liverpool.
1538
01:23:01,571 --> 01:23:04,186
I was never more relaxed
in a final than in this one...
1539
01:23:04,211 --> 01:23:07,105
OK, maybe because I lost
so many, I don't know.
1540
01:23:07,130 --> 01:23:11,025
But it was absolutely great,
what the boys did that night.
1541
01:23:12,260 --> 01:23:15,636
It's been a long wait for
jurgen Klopp's Liverpool
1542
01:23:15,661 --> 01:23:19,876
to find success, but they've
got there in the end,
1543
01:23:19,901 --> 01:23:23,546
and they've got there with
the biggest trophy of all.
1544
01:23:29,260 --> 01:23:32,275
To finally get over the line
was an amazing feeling.
1545
01:23:32,300 --> 01:23:34,275
Of course, relief
was in there, as well.
1546
01:23:34,300 --> 01:23:37,796
But the lads deserved it, you know,
and it was a matter of time.
1547
01:23:37,821 --> 01:23:40,796
Y'know, winning the Champions League
is a dream come true,
1548
01:23:40,821 --> 01:23:43,876
I think for all of us — for every
football player, every young player
1549
01:23:43,901 --> 01:23:48,275
that's, you know, out there.
I'll never forget Klopp on the bus
1550
01:23:48,300 --> 01:23:49,876
for the celebrations.
1551
01:23:49,901 --> 01:23:52,666
I thought he was going to
throw himself off at some point.
1552
01:23:52,691 --> 01:23:56,876
It was wonderful to see
just that sheer happiness.
1553
01:24:00,491 --> 01:24:02,466
The place was jumping,
1554
01:24:02,491 --> 01:24:04,996
but Liverpool stood still.
1555
01:24:05,021 --> 01:24:07,076
They made no signings of note.
1556
01:24:07,101 --> 01:24:10,596
There was a belief and confidence
that the squad was good enough
1557
01:24:10,621 --> 01:24:14,025
and consistent enough
to end that 30-year wait.
1558
01:24:17,971 --> 01:24:21,666
In the beginning of the season,
you want to win it so bad.
1559
01:24:21,691 --> 01:24:24,946
You want to achieve something
for the club, which... the main
1560
01:24:24,971 --> 01:24:26,826
target was the Premier League.
1561
01:24:26,851 --> 01:24:30,516
Can Liverpool become
the champions of England again?
1562
01:24:30,541 --> 01:24:34,155
Now, that is becoming
an age-old question.
1563
01:24:34,180 --> 01:24:35,186
Origi!
1564
01:24:35,211 --> 01:24:36,586
4-0.
1565
01:24:36,611 --> 01:24:38,666
Robertson. Cracker of a cross.
1566
01:24:38,691 --> 01:24:41,275
Brilliant Salah header.
1567
01:24:41,300 --> 01:24:43,916
When you beat Man City, it gives
you more confidence, as well,
1568
01:24:43,941 --> 01:24:46,905
that you beat the champion.
We've had the odd game or two
1569
01:24:46,930 --> 01:24:50,235
where we've not been brilliant
and we're still winning.
1570
01:24:50,260 --> 01:24:54,796
The outcome always seems to be
the same. Liverpool win.
1571
01:24:54,821 --> 01:24:57,905
And this machine that was Liverpool
was just rolling
1572
01:24:57,930 --> 01:25:01,105
and rolling and rolling.
I think by December, the players
1573
01:25:01,130 --> 01:25:04,076
knew that they were
going to win the league.
1574
01:25:04,101 --> 01:25:07,155
Trent Alexander—Arnold! It's four!
1575
01:25:07,180 --> 01:25:10,796
I think consistency comes
from mentality — when you keep
1576
01:25:10,821 --> 01:25:14,105
winning then there's
no reason to change.
1577
01:25:14,130 --> 01:25:17,155
We have a saying, as well, that
we use, that we defend together
1578
01:25:17,180 --> 01:25:21,275
and we attack together, and that's
the mentality throughout the team.
1579
01:25:21,300 --> 01:25:23,996
They are such a good team
at the minute.
1580
01:25:24,021 --> 01:25:25,996
Salah charges towards him...
1581
01:25:26,021 --> 01:25:28,386
...to score!
1582
01:25:28,411 --> 01:25:31,916
I was excited after the goal,
and the celebration from the fans
1583
01:25:31,941 --> 01:25:35,275
was crazy, and it was
really special for everybody.
1584
01:25:36,901 --> 01:25:40,636
And then we were, like,
all these points ahead, easily.
1585
01:25:42,101 --> 01:25:43,105
And then...
1586
01:25:44,971 --> 01:25:49,025
Coronavirus is the biggest threat
this country has faced for decades.
1587
01:25:49,050 --> 01:25:52,716
The virus CAN be passed
from human to human.
1588
01:25:52,741 --> 01:25:55,225
You must stay at home.
1589
01:25:55,250 --> 01:25:58,826
Sport has simply never seen anything
quite like this... event after event
1590
01:25:58,851 --> 01:26:01,076
being cancelled the world over.
1591
01:26:01,101 --> 01:26:04,466
And ultimately, this season
has to be simply abandoned.
1592
01:26:04,491 --> 01:26:07,105
People say they're cancelling
the league. Some people are saying,
1593
01:26:07,130 --> 01:26:08,796
"You cannot play any more."
1594
01:26:08,821 --> 01:26:13,275
It was stress somehow and everybody
maybe started to panic.
1595
01:26:13,300 --> 01:26:16,636
I was home during that time
with the family.
1596
01:26:16,661 --> 01:26:21,225
They had that time before,
so I was using it to enjoy it.
1597
01:26:21,250 --> 01:26:24,716
Football fans everywhere
felt the pain of lockdown.
1598
01:26:25,851 --> 01:26:29,746
But Liverpool's fans and players
had the extra anxiety of wondering
1599
01:26:29,771 --> 01:26:33,586
if, after all this time, the title
was going to be snatched
1600
01:26:33,611 --> 01:26:36,716
from their grasp.
It would have been awful,
1601
01:26:36,741 --> 01:26:39,586
one, to have it void, but it
wouldn't have been the same
1602
01:26:39,611 --> 01:26:42,716
if people had just said,
"Well, you can have it."
1603
01:26:42,741 --> 01:26:46,306
It was tough, as well, for you
to think after that long season
1604
01:26:46,331 --> 01:26:47,916
and after that year
1605
01:26:47,941 --> 01:26:51,876
they're going to cancel the
Premier League again. That's bad!
1606
01:27:01,461 --> 01:27:03,746
30 years of turmoil,
1607
01:27:03,771 --> 01:27:06,826
of agony, of underachieving,
1608
01:27:06,851 --> 01:27:12,105
of hope and of desperately
wondering when — if ever...
1609
01:27:12,130 --> 01:27:14,826
It was going to happen again.
1610
01:27:14,851 --> 01:27:18,516
Liverpool are almost there.
They will be champions
1611
01:27:18,541 --> 01:27:22,916
if Manchester City fail to win
at Chelsea tomorrow.
1612
01:27:22,941 --> 01:27:26,105
The manager obviously organised
for us to watch it all together,
1613
01:27:26,130 --> 01:27:28,916
which, looking back,
was a very good decision.
1614
01:27:32,661 --> 01:27:35,516
In the 90th minute, I was still...
I was still watching.
1615
01:27:35,541 --> 01:27:38,666
I just wanted the whistle to go
because I'd been so close
1616
01:27:38,691 --> 01:27:41,556
so many times before that you just
never know what can happen in
1617
01:27:41,581 --> 01:27:44,916
football. So when that final whistle
went and we became champions,
1618
01:27:44,941 --> 01:27:48,916
it was an incredible feeling,
and very emotional for all of us.
1619
01:27:49,891 --> 01:27:54,996
Liverpool's 30-year wait
comes to an end today.
1620
01:27:55,021 --> 01:27:56,866
Come on!
1621
01:27:56,891 --> 01:28:00,326
To be with the team—mates
in that time is something special.
1622
01:28:00,351 --> 01:28:03,175
Liverpool have become
the Premier League champions.
1623
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:07,406
They've won their first English
top-flight title since 1990.
1624
01:28:08,871 --> 01:28:11,936
It's strange, of course, because you
can't celebrate it with the fans,
1625
01:28:11,961 --> 01:28:14,456
but I think the feeling
of looking back and thinking
1626
01:28:14,481 --> 01:28:17,016
what I've achieved
in my career so far,
1627
01:28:17,041 --> 01:28:20,096
you know, I think that feeling
would probably be the same,
1628
01:28:20,121 --> 01:28:23,045
but the celebration obviously
would be totally different.
1629
01:28:23,070 --> 01:28:26,736
I cried a lot that night,
which I don't do a lot.
1630
01:28:26,761 --> 01:28:29,456
But, obviously, I realised in
that moment how much it meant
1631
01:28:29,481 --> 01:28:34,206
to me, as well, and was big,
is big, and will be big forever.
1632
01:28:35,631 --> 01:28:39,295
The Premier League is the most
difficult league in the world
1633
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:43,206
and the most difficult challenge
that I've ever faced.
1634
01:28:44,270 --> 01:28:49,936
It's so weird to be lifting
the trophy up on 96 points...
1635
01:28:49,961 --> 01:28:52,536
A point for every one
of them who died.
1636
01:28:53,511 --> 01:28:56,536
Some things are just meant to be,
and I'm sure every single one of
1637
01:28:56,561 --> 01:28:59,576
them were looking over us
on that night.
1638
01:28:59,601 --> 01:29:02,816
In this moment — for just a moment...
1639
01:29:02,841 --> 01:29:07,576
All of the emotions that had built
up over the years were set free.
1640
01:29:11,351 --> 01:29:15,375
When I come to Liverpool, that was
the one trophy I wanted to win.
1641
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:18,016
To finally do it and be a part
of it is an incredible feeling,
1642
01:29:18,041 --> 01:29:19,736
and I'm incredibly proud
to be a part
1643
01:29:19,761 --> 01:29:22,295
of this football club
and this football team.
1644
01:29:23,351 --> 01:29:27,736
Liverpool Football Club were
finally League Champions again...
1645
01:29:27,761 --> 01:29:30,456
A title 30 years in the making.
1646
01:29:30,481 --> 01:29:34,045
I came, but I didn't
make a revolution.
1647
01:29:34,070 --> 01:29:37,486
I just wanted to have
a sort of evolution.
1648
01:29:42,070 --> 01:29:44,096
It's really a sense of proud
1649
01:29:44,121 --> 01:29:46,886
that you have been part
of this massive club.
1650
01:29:50,991 --> 01:29:53,295
30 years. It's been
a hell of a long time.
1651
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:56,016
We went very close, and I only wish
that we could have done it,
1652
01:29:56,041 --> 01:29:58,816
but at least they haven't
had to wait too long.
1653
01:30:00,841 --> 01:30:04,526
As a story in football, it doesn't
come any better than that, does it?
1654
01:30:06,871 --> 01:30:10,766
Liverpool did it, and that's all
because of you, and that's why
1655
01:30:10,791 --> 01:30:12,936
we all, together,
deserve it this year.139710
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