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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:02:10,263 --> 00:02:13,098 Hendrix was a major part of my background. 2 00:02:13,166 --> 00:02:15,234 Jimi Hendrix grew on me very quickly. 3 00:02:15,301 --> 00:02:17,669 - Who? - I don't think I'd ever heard of him. 4 00:02:17,737 --> 00:02:19,204 I like his first album the best. 5 00:02:19,272 --> 00:02:22,574 Oh, yeah. I remember him. 6 00:02:22,642 --> 00:02:24,376 He used to play on a broom. 7 00:02:24,444 --> 00:02:26,445 He could just make the guitar talk. 8 00:02:26,513 --> 00:02:28,780 There was something different about him. 9 00:02:28,848 --> 00:02:32,151 I was pretty good at it, but I wasn't as good at it as he was. 10 00:02:32,218 --> 00:02:35,420 This guy is just unbelievable. 11 00:02:35,488 --> 00:02:36,989 It was a sight to behold. 12 00:02:37,056 --> 00:02:38,423 He's just so cool. 13 00:02:38,491 --> 00:02:40,025 Jimi Hendrix was outstanding. 14 00:02:40,093 --> 00:02:42,027 Because he could blow you offthe stage. 15 00:02:42,095 --> 00:02:46,899 It was Jimi in front of a sort of mediocre rhythm section. 16 00:02:46,966 --> 00:02:48,467 He didn't need much. 17 00:02:48,535 --> 00:02:51,003 He who plays loudest gets noticed. 18 00:02:51,070 --> 00:02:52,604 No one could follow Hendrix. 19 00:02:59,712 --> 00:03:02,581 Chas Chandler, right, English guy in New York 20 00:03:02,649 --> 00:03:05,517 runs into a black guitar player in a bar 21 00:03:05,585 --> 00:03:09,454 and there's this whole electric-guitar explosion going on in London, 22 00:03:09,522 --> 00:03:12,691 so he flies this guy back to London where he's treated like a god 23 00:03:12,759 --> 00:03:14,993 because he can play guitar and he's black, 24 00:03:15,061 --> 00:03:17,229 which all the white English guys wanted to be. 25 00:03:17,297 --> 00:03:22,034 Chas was offto New York. Met Linda Keith. 26 00:03:22,101 --> 00:03:25,304 Linda Keith said there's this guy 27 00:03:25,371 --> 00:03:29,141 who really deserves to be heard more than he is, 28 00:03:29,209 --> 00:03:30,809 and I think you should see him. 29 00:03:30,877 --> 00:03:33,512 He said, ''There's this guy called Chas Chandler.'' 30 00:03:33,580 --> 00:03:35,247 ''He wants to take me to England.'' 31 00:03:35,315 --> 00:03:38,717 England was probably the first time he'd ever been abroad. 32 00:03:38,785 --> 00:03:40,452 Actually, that's not quite true. 33 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,957 He was in the Paratroop Regiment in Vietnam. 34 00:03:45,024 --> 00:03:48,160 But that was a completely different experience. 35 00:03:48,228 --> 00:03:52,598 Offto London with Terry McVay, my road manager, 36 00:03:52,665 --> 00:03:58,770 and my old friend carrying Hendrix's guitar through customs and immigration, 37 00:03:58,838 --> 00:04:03,141 so that they wouldn't suspect him of coming in to work, 38 00:04:03,209 --> 00:04:08,614 and he was immediately taken to Zoot Money's house, 39 00:04:08,681 --> 00:04:11,250 because that's where we all hung out, 40 00:04:11,317 --> 00:04:15,320 and we felt that he would be most comfortable there. 41 00:04:15,388 --> 00:04:18,023 And, by the way, did I have a guitar in the house? 42 00:04:18,091 --> 00:04:23,161 He was going to take him to the Bag O'Nails or one ofthe clubs 43 00:04:23,229 --> 00:04:24,863 and have him sit in. 44 00:04:24,931 --> 00:04:28,734 So minutes later or half an hour later, 45 00:04:28,801 --> 00:04:31,103 they turned up and that's where I met Jimi. 46 00:04:31,170 --> 00:04:33,672 And the first I knew that there was something going on 47 00:04:33,740 --> 00:04:36,875 was when they started a jam session right underneath my bedroom. 48 00:04:36,943 --> 00:04:40,379 There was this banging and crashing going on. 49 00:04:40,446 --> 00:04:43,348 Ronnie, Zoot's wife, came up and said, 50 00:04:43,416 --> 00:04:46,885 ''God, you should see this guy that Chas has brought back from America.'' 51 00:04:46,953 --> 00:04:49,288 ''He looks like the Wild Man of Borneo!'' 52 00:04:49,355 --> 00:04:56,028 ''They want to change my name to Jimi. J-I-M-I instead of J-I-M-M-Y.'' 53 00:04:56,095 --> 00:04:58,764 ''Jimi Hendrix. It sounds more English.'' 54 00:05:22,488 --> 00:05:26,658 Jimi had been in England for ten days when he jammed with Eric Clapton. 55 00:05:26,726 --> 00:05:28,527 What kind of courage would that take? 56 00:05:28,594 --> 00:05:33,632 It was the Students' Union at the London Polytechnic. 57 00:05:33,700 --> 00:05:35,500 Chas brought him to see us play. 58 00:05:35,568 --> 00:05:40,072 And Chas said to me, ''Can you ask the band if Jimi can sit in?'' 59 00:05:40,139 --> 00:05:42,107 Well, nobody had ever sat in with Cream. 60 00:05:42,175 --> 00:05:44,009 No one had ever asked to jam with them. 61 00:05:44,077 --> 00:05:46,378 They were shocked that someone had asked. 62 00:05:46,446 --> 00:05:50,549 This guy shows up, you know, and asked to play. 63 00:05:50,616 --> 00:05:54,353 And he looks like he might know what he's on about. 64 00:05:54,420 --> 00:05:57,789 Ginger Baker didn't seem... The other two didn't seem so keen. 65 00:05:57,857 --> 00:06:03,161 But because Chas was one ofthe guys, they reluctantly agreed. 66 00:06:03,229 --> 00:06:05,464 He went on stage, I plugged him into Eric's amp. 67 00:06:05,531 --> 00:06:08,333 He did the Howlin' Wolf song, Killing Floor, 68 00:06:08,401 --> 00:06:10,502 which is very difficult to play. 69 00:06:10,570 --> 00:06:13,872 It's got a very tricky bass line. You need to know what you're doing. 70 00:06:13,940 --> 00:06:16,174 And I thought, ''This guy's a player!'' 71 00:06:18,344 --> 00:06:19,845 Everyone was speechless! 72 00:06:22,248 --> 00:06:24,783 They were all sort of... Chas was grinning. 73 00:06:26,519 --> 00:06:28,854 And it left them reeling a bit. 74 00:06:28,921 --> 00:06:31,923 They thought they were going to get some two-bitjunior up there 75 00:06:31,991 --> 00:06:33,925 who was going to spoil their first gig, 76 00:06:33,993 --> 00:06:37,562 who's a sort of amateur guitar player. 77 00:06:37,630 --> 00:06:40,932 But he was a fully developed musical personality already. 78 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,969 The balls and courage that it took... Jimi was in the audience. 79 00:06:44,036 --> 00:06:46,772 It wasn't like he was backstage and anyone knew who he was. 80 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,475 He was literally an audience member. They said, ''Can this guyjam with you?'' 81 00:06:50,543 --> 00:06:54,045 And partially because of his race, they said, ''OK, I guess.'' 82 00:06:54,113 --> 00:06:57,349 And he plugs in and he wipes Cream offthe stage! 83 00:06:57,417 --> 00:07:01,453 Probably the only one... I've seen Buddy Guy, I've seen Little Walter, 84 00:07:01,521 --> 00:07:04,556 I've seen Matt Murphy with Memphis Slim, 85 00:07:04,624 --> 00:07:06,691 I've seen Muddy Waters, I've seen... 86 00:07:06,759 --> 00:07:10,695 But this is a young guy doing what they do, 87 00:07:10,763 --> 00:07:13,832 but he's kind of somehow brought it into this decade. 88 00:07:13,900 --> 00:07:18,270 Suddenly appearing fully fledged, ready to take over, 89 00:07:18,337 --> 00:07:21,640 I think people began to take themselves a bit more seriously 90 00:07:21,707 --> 00:07:24,976 and not take anything for granted any more, 91 00:07:25,044 --> 00:07:27,712 because he could blow you offthe stage, Hendrix. 92 00:07:28,648 --> 00:07:30,916 They got the show oftheir lives, I'll tell you. 93 00:07:30,983 --> 00:07:36,421 It made them sit up and take notice, that's for sure. 94 00:07:36,489 --> 00:07:40,425 One ofthe reasons why he was embraced in England the way that he was 95 00:07:40,493 --> 00:07:43,228 was because all the great rock 'n' roll guitar players 96 00:07:43,296 --> 00:07:44,729 were coming out of England. 97 00:07:44,797 --> 00:07:47,299 And he knew about every one ofthem. 98 00:07:47,366 --> 00:07:50,735 He was very well versed on his peers. 99 00:07:51,504 --> 00:07:56,007 One time I met him which has always stuck in my mind 100 00:07:56,075 --> 00:07:57,342 and is a very vivid memory 101 00:07:57,410 --> 00:08:02,113 was him coming down to the Speakeasy in Margaret Street, 102 00:08:02,181 --> 00:08:06,485 where all the musicians used to go and hang out and play. 103 00:08:06,552 --> 00:08:11,122 John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, including me at the time, obviously, 104 00:08:11,190 --> 00:08:13,525 were playing down there and he came down. 105 00:08:13,593 --> 00:08:17,762 He decided he wanted to sit in and have a play. 106 00:08:17,830 --> 00:08:22,200 There was... I was the only guitar player. 107 00:08:22,268 --> 00:08:25,770 So instead of him sitting in, I just gave him my Les Paul. 108 00:08:25,838 --> 00:08:31,443 And he turned my Les Paul upside down, because he's left-handed, 109 00:08:31,511 --> 00:08:35,714 and fiddled around with the toggle switch a little bit 110 00:08:35,781 --> 00:08:42,287 and he just starting playing the most incredible blues guitar I've ever heard. 111 00:08:42,355 --> 00:08:46,758 It was just soaring and singing. 112 00:08:46,826 --> 00:08:51,229 And I was just absolutely amazed by this. 113 00:08:51,297 --> 00:08:53,365 No one knew who he was. Word just passed. 114 00:08:53,432 --> 00:08:56,501 ''There's this great African-American guy playing at the club.'' 115 00:08:56,569 --> 00:08:59,604 ''You've got go see him.'' It was word of mouth. 116 00:08:59,672 --> 00:09:02,007 It wasn't notices in the newspaper at that point. 117 00:09:02,074 --> 00:09:05,176 It was mostly musicians too, who were going to these clubs. 118 00:09:05,244 --> 00:09:09,047 When people think about that scene, yes, London was a happening place, 119 00:09:09,115 --> 00:09:11,616 but most ofthese clubs held 200-300 people. 120 00:09:11,684 --> 00:09:14,920 It wasn't like thousands of people were seeing these performances. 121 00:09:14,987 --> 00:09:18,256 It was a dozen musicians, but they all knew somebody else. 122 00:09:18,324 --> 00:09:21,860 I was in the Scotch of St James's one night. 123 00:09:25,631 --> 00:09:28,266 Chas Chandler was there 124 00:09:28,334 --> 00:09:33,305 with this guy with this freaked-out hairdo and some Levi's on. 125 00:09:33,372 --> 00:09:35,507 Chas, as it turned out, 126 00:09:35,575 --> 00:09:40,779 was taking him around these clubs that there were in London. 127 00:09:40,846 --> 00:09:45,684 There were some semi-private clubs in the '60s that everybody frequented. 128 00:09:45,751 --> 00:09:47,452 Everybody would hang out together. 129 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:53,792 It was great how musicians from that era all joined hands, 130 00:09:53,859 --> 00:09:56,027 and all kinds of bands came out of it. 131 00:09:56,095 --> 00:10:01,066 London specifically was quite, as they say, happening. 132 00:10:02,635 --> 00:10:05,837 But here and there, among the conformist fatcat crowds, 133 00:10:05,905 --> 00:10:10,308 is a lean cat or two, looking like it might swing, given some encouragement. 134 00:10:16,582 --> 00:10:19,351 And in among the chain stores and supermarkets, 135 00:10:19,418 --> 00:10:23,822 is here and there a shop that may have something all its own to say 136 00:10:23,889 --> 00:10:27,392 to the character who can send up a mass-production car, 137 00:10:27,460 --> 00:10:30,395 to people who can put ''living'' before ''a living''. 138 00:10:32,431 --> 00:10:34,899 World's End means where the King's Road ends, 139 00:10:34,967 --> 00:10:37,902 which shows what the King's Roaders think of themselves. 140 00:10:37,970 --> 00:10:41,873 Many different types of art forms were all intermingling together, 141 00:10:41,941 --> 00:10:44,376 and the same thing was happening with music. 142 00:10:44,443 --> 00:10:47,445 A lot oftimes, you'd stop by other people's sessions, 143 00:10:47,513 --> 00:10:51,750 and just through other people, you kind of got to know each other. 144 00:10:51,817 --> 00:10:55,186 It was a real small community in a way. 145 00:10:55,254 --> 00:10:58,256 There were only a certain number of clubs everybody went to. 146 00:10:58,324 --> 00:11:02,794 You could go into the Scotch of St James's or the Bag O'Nails, 147 00:11:02,862 --> 00:11:08,299 but you'd walk in there and there could be McCartney and Lennon 148 00:11:08,367 --> 00:11:10,902 or Jagger and somebody else, 149 00:11:10,970 --> 00:11:13,538 and this band or that band, whatever was going on. 150 00:11:13,606 --> 00:11:17,208 At that time, every week there was a new act coming up. 151 00:11:18,177 --> 00:11:21,312 We were just thrown together. We weren't friends, we'd never met. 152 00:11:21,380 --> 00:11:24,282 It was one ofthose things, three guys being thrown together. 153 00:11:24,350 --> 00:11:26,951 ''You're a group now, see what you can sort out.'' 154 00:11:27,019 --> 00:11:29,954 They had to get them together pretty quickly. 155 00:11:30,022 --> 00:11:34,659 And I remember going to see the auditions, going... 156 00:11:34,727 --> 00:11:39,831 There was Aynsley Dunbar, Mitch Mitchell. 157 00:11:39,899 --> 00:11:42,734 With Aynsley and Mitch, they couldn't decide which one, 158 00:11:42,802 --> 00:11:47,272 so they tossed a coin in the back of a taxi and it fell for Mitch. 159 00:11:47,339 --> 00:11:50,742 Noel, I was there for Noel at the Birdland. 160 00:11:50,810 --> 00:11:53,645 He'd gone for an audition with the New Animals, 161 00:11:53,713 --> 00:11:55,146 and ended up with a job. 162 00:11:55,214 --> 00:11:57,716 And I remember Chas saying, ''Can you play the bass?'' 163 00:11:57,783 --> 00:12:01,920 And he went, ''Well, I'm not really a bass player. I could try.'' 164 00:12:01,987 --> 00:12:04,355 He said, ''Well, here, try!'' And that was it. 165 00:12:04,423 --> 00:12:05,990 He said, ''OK, got the job.'' 166 00:12:06,058 --> 00:12:09,994 ''As long as you can play a steady bass line,'' that's what he said. 167 00:12:12,465 --> 00:12:15,567 As luck would have it, Jimi was spotted at one of his gigs 168 00:12:15,634 --> 00:12:19,137 by the Elvis of France, AKA Johnny Hallyday. 169 00:12:19,205 --> 00:12:20,772 Johnny was extremely impressed 170 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,175 and insisted Jimi support him on his French tour. 171 00:12:25,578 --> 00:12:27,378 Chas quickly threw a group together, 172 00:12:27,446 --> 00:12:31,249 and after being a group for only a week and barely knowing each other, 173 00:12:31,317 --> 00:12:34,552 the trio were carted off by Chas Chandler to France. 174 00:12:36,922 --> 00:12:40,792 The tour hit Paris for a sold-out show at the Olympia. 175 00:12:40,860 --> 00:12:43,561 The audience was there to see the Elvis of France. 176 00:12:44,864 --> 00:12:48,533 They got the shock oftheir lives with Jimi's cover of Wild Thiig. 177 00:12:48,601 --> 00:12:51,836 Everybody sing, alright? You, yeah, that's right. 178 00:13:19,732 --> 00:13:23,735 High on success, the Experience headed back to England for more. 179 00:13:24,770 --> 00:13:28,339 They started to manage to book them into sort of small gigs, 180 00:13:28,407 --> 00:13:31,142 pubs and small venues, 181 00:13:31,210 --> 00:13:35,013 until the first record came out, HeyJoe. 182 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,714 And then that got to number six, 183 00:13:36,782 --> 00:13:40,218 because they all ran around buying them up in all the shops. 184 00:13:40,286 --> 00:13:43,721 Once he had that hit record, they could push the price up 185 00:13:43,789 --> 00:13:46,024 and get better gigs, and so on and so forth. 186 00:13:46,091 --> 00:13:48,059 And that's how it really got started. 187 00:13:48,127 --> 00:13:53,932 But young people were just beginning to break out ofthe 1940s after the war 188 00:13:53,999 --> 00:13:55,266 and do their own thing, 189 00:13:55,334 --> 00:13:59,704 and it was a burgeoning musical scene. 190 00:13:59,772 --> 00:14:02,173 And it was very small. 191 00:14:02,241 --> 00:14:04,943 Everybody knew each other, everybody knew everybody, 192 00:14:05,010 --> 00:14:06,778 everyone went to the same clubs, 193 00:14:06,846 --> 00:14:11,249 for example, the Scotch of St James's, which is where Jimi first played, 194 00:14:11,317 --> 00:14:12,884 went the first night. 195 00:14:12,952 --> 00:14:17,088 They had acts there like Sonny & Cher. 196 00:14:17,156 --> 00:14:21,893 You had the American groups and bands and whatever coming in. 197 00:14:21,961 --> 00:14:25,864 They met all the English ones and they all got on very well together, 198 00:14:25,931 --> 00:14:29,400 so there were lots of parties and things were going on. 199 00:14:29,468 --> 00:14:33,271 But whether here at Tiles or here at the Bag O'Nails 200 00:14:33,339 --> 00:14:36,174 or at Samantha's or George's or the Saddle Room, 201 00:14:36,242 --> 00:14:39,110 or any of the in gaffs where they go, 202 00:14:39,178 --> 00:14:43,081 just don't take any of it too seriously or you'll miss the whole point. 203 00:14:44,149 --> 00:14:50,021 At that time, everyone was very conscious of fashion. 204 00:14:52,625 --> 00:14:56,761 The music industry, which was sort of forming at that time, 205 00:14:56,829 --> 00:14:59,931 were sort of hanging out at the Speakeasy, 206 00:14:59,999 --> 00:15:05,103 and we used to go down during the day to the Chelsea Market. 207 00:15:05,170 --> 00:15:11,109 And everyone was buying Edwardian, Victorian clothes, male and female, 208 00:15:11,176 --> 00:15:13,878 and basically dressing up, meeting at the Speakeasy. 209 00:15:13,946 --> 00:15:16,981 There was this shop called Granny Takes a Trip 210 00:15:17,049 --> 00:15:21,386 and that was the meeting point for a lot ofthose artists 211 00:15:21,453 --> 00:15:23,288 that lived around the Chelsea area. 212 00:15:23,355 --> 00:15:26,758 Granny Takes a Trip the shop behind the face calls itself, 213 00:15:26,825 --> 00:15:28,927 and it's typical of the non-typical, 214 00:15:28,994 --> 00:15:31,896 conforming to the non-conformist image of the in, 215 00:15:31,964 --> 00:15:33,531 what they used to call ''way out''. 216 00:15:33,599 --> 00:15:36,200 And before that, ''with it'', and before that, ''groovy'', 217 00:15:36,268 --> 00:15:37,402 and before that, ''hep'', 218 00:15:37,469 --> 00:15:41,072 and what Granny herselfwould have called ''the very latest thing, my dear''. 219 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,715 There was this shop called Lord Kitchener's Valet, 220 00:15:50,783 --> 00:15:53,451 that started in the Portobello Road, 221 00:15:53,519 --> 00:15:56,087 and Mick Jagger bought a jacket, 222 00:15:56,155 --> 00:16:01,592 and, of course, Jimi bought a jacket and I in fact bought a jacket. 223 00:16:40,099 --> 00:16:43,434 The first time I saw Jimi Hendrix was at the Seven and a Half Club. 224 00:16:43,502 --> 00:16:46,037 It was the opening night for the club, 225 00:16:46,105 --> 00:16:49,540 and he'd agreed, for a small sum of£40 a night, 226 00:16:49,608 --> 00:16:52,377 to play there as long as he could rehearse his band. 227 00:16:52,444 --> 00:16:54,545 I'm sitting there in the Seven and a Half Club 228 00:16:54,613 --> 00:16:58,816 next to Paul McCartney, Brian Jones, the Beatles. 229 00:16:58,884 --> 00:17:02,754 I was just absolutely amazed at the turnout. 230 00:17:02,821 --> 00:17:09,360 And suddenly, the atmosphere was just electric, 231 00:17:09,428 --> 00:17:14,766 and lights dimmed and Jimi literallyjumped on this small stage 232 00:17:14,833 --> 00:17:18,136 wearing this fantastic hussar's militaryjacket 233 00:17:18,203 --> 00:17:20,605 and went straight into Wild Thiig. 234 00:17:36,955 --> 00:17:39,290 I showed up at the Marquee one day 235 00:17:39,358 --> 00:17:41,692 to support Cliff Bennett and the Rebel Rousers, 236 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:49,067 and there was this band rehearsing on the stage and trying to learn a song. 237 00:17:49,134 --> 00:17:51,636 And the guitarist was black, 238 00:17:51,703 --> 00:17:54,906 and there was a couple of other scruffy looking guys, 239 00:17:54,973 --> 00:17:56,574 and they were trying to learn... 240 00:18:00,612 --> 00:18:02,980 And Noel Redding just couldn't get it. 241 00:18:03,048 --> 00:18:05,817 I thought, ''Oh, God. Give me the fucking bass.'' 242 00:18:05,884 --> 00:18:10,154 Noel was relatively unknown. He'd never even played bass before. 243 00:18:10,222 --> 00:18:12,256 He says the first time he ever played bass 244 00:18:12,324 --> 00:18:14,025 was the audition with Jimi Hendrix. 245 00:18:14,093 --> 00:18:17,562 So I went out to the front and saw Jack Barry, the assistant manager. 246 00:18:17,629 --> 00:18:22,366 I said, ''Why is this band... You don't have bands rehearsing here.'' 247 00:18:22,434 --> 00:18:26,504 He said, ''They're supposed to be here. In fact, they're the headliners.'' 248 00:18:26,572 --> 00:18:28,506 And so I went, ''Oh, dear.'' 249 00:18:29,741 --> 00:18:34,645 And there's Jack Barry taking ten-bob notes hand over fist from people. 250 00:18:34,713 --> 00:18:38,449 And there was a sea of people trying to get in there, 251 00:18:38,517 --> 00:18:41,519 and as I passed, I said, ''Jack, what's going on?'' 252 00:18:41,587 --> 00:18:43,087 He goes, ''I don't know!'' 253 00:18:44,656 --> 00:18:46,824 ''It seems a lot of people are coming here.'' 254 00:18:46,892 --> 00:18:50,228 I said, ''I saw them rehearsing and they couldn't learn five notes.'' 255 00:18:50,295 --> 00:18:54,332 ''It took them 15 minutes and then they dropped it from the set tonight.'' 256 00:18:54,399 --> 00:18:59,604 And I looked there at the fucking 60 people sitting there. 257 00:18:59,671 --> 00:19:01,772 All ofthe Beatles. 258 00:19:03,208 --> 00:19:04,976 Most ofthe Stones. 259 00:19:08,981 --> 00:19:14,952 Keith Moon, Pete Townshend, Steve Winwood, Eric Clapton. 260 00:19:15,020 --> 00:19:20,958 Every one of my heroes was sitting down in the first row. 261 00:19:21,026 --> 00:19:25,096 The first floor is chock-a-block. All the Beatles. 262 00:19:25,164 --> 00:19:30,468 All my heroes were watching my band open for a black guy who can't play. 263 00:19:30,536 --> 00:19:37,775 And Hendrix came on and I have never in my life witnessed so much power. 264 00:19:37,843 --> 00:19:42,813 That's the power that I think Jimi Hendrix had. 265 00:19:44,283 --> 00:19:47,952 Notjust over musicians and fans and people who buy his records, 266 00:19:48,020 --> 00:19:51,322 but over the guitar gods and the icons 267 00:19:51,390 --> 00:19:55,760 who were going, ''Hey, man, this guy's burning us in our backyard.'' 268 00:19:55,827 --> 00:19:57,528 ''We better go check him out.'' 269 00:19:57,596 --> 00:20:00,498 They were in awe of his feedback, of course, immediately. 270 00:20:00,566 --> 00:20:05,336 You could see the look on Clapton's face was, ''This changes everything!'' 271 00:20:05,737 --> 00:20:11,375 I thought, ''What was that band I saw rehearsing? This is not that band.'' 272 00:20:12,077 --> 00:20:15,313 ''This is some guy who's like from heaven, 273 00:20:15,380 --> 00:20:17,148 who's just come down here, 274 00:20:17,216 --> 00:20:20,418 and the drummer and the bass player seem to know the notes.'' 275 00:20:20,485 --> 00:20:23,754 And, of course, it was quite incredible. 276 00:20:23,822 --> 00:20:26,924 I think guitar players were overwhelmed by him. 277 00:20:26,992 --> 00:20:32,697 Eric Clapton was, Jeff Beck was, Pete Townshend was. 278 00:20:32,764 --> 00:20:36,300 All ofthe guitarists from my generation 279 00:20:36,368 --> 00:20:41,239 who, you know, thought we were pretty good blues guitar players, 280 00:20:41,306 --> 00:20:43,808 were immediately impressed. 281 00:20:43,875 --> 00:20:46,811 The reason they all were there was to steal. 282 00:20:46,878 --> 00:20:49,981 I know that Lennon did. 283 00:20:50,048 --> 00:20:53,017 He stole sounds, guitar sounds and things. 284 00:20:53,085 --> 00:20:57,021 You can hear it on the albums. 285 00:20:57,089 --> 00:21:00,458 Mark it off on your counter when Jimi arrived in town, 286 00:21:00,525 --> 00:21:05,229 and then the next recording that was being done by the Beatles at that time, 287 00:21:05,297 --> 00:21:07,865 and then you would hear a certain kind of guitar sound. 288 00:21:55,681 --> 00:21:58,649 That's how it started, and so he played in the nightclubs. 289 00:21:58,717 --> 00:22:01,952 All ofthese other rock stars were in these nightclubs. 290 00:22:02,020 --> 00:22:05,690 ''Wow, what's this? We've got competition.'' 291 00:22:06,158 --> 00:22:09,994 Ring, ring. ''Hey, phone me up, man. We've got a problem.'' 292 00:22:10,062 --> 00:22:12,129 Townshend said, ''What's that?'' 293 00:22:12,197 --> 00:22:14,865 Clapton said, ''We've got this guy in our backyard.'' 294 00:22:14,933 --> 00:22:16,767 And Townshend went, ''Who's this?'' 295 00:22:16,835 --> 00:22:19,770 He says, ''It's this black guy named Jimi Hendrix.'' 296 00:22:19,838 --> 00:22:22,873 ''He's, like, filling up the clubs.'' 297 00:22:22,941 --> 00:22:26,043 ''Well, we better go check him out, man, if he's in our backyard.'' 298 00:22:26,111 --> 00:22:29,647 So they get together, they go see Hendrix. 299 00:22:29,715 --> 00:22:30,881 Can you imagine this? 300 00:22:30,949 --> 00:22:35,519 The two ofthem go to watch Jimi Hendrix and they're both just transfixed. 301 00:22:35,587 --> 00:22:37,488 I'll tell you what bothered me. 302 00:22:37,556 --> 00:22:41,826 That was just before we went offto America, I think, 303 00:22:41,893 --> 00:22:46,997 and Hendrix had completely taken over, with a trio. 304 00:22:47,065 --> 00:22:50,134 What a surprise, you know. And I thought, ''This seems a bit...'' 305 00:22:50,202 --> 00:22:52,069 And that's all anyone could talk about. 306 00:22:52,137 --> 00:22:54,939 Clapton and Townshend, 307 00:22:55,006 --> 00:22:59,043 they actually clutch hands as they're watching Jimi Hendrix. 308 00:22:59,111 --> 00:23:03,414 It's like they're watching their entire careers change at that moment. 309 00:23:03,482 --> 00:23:07,351 And we were suddenly yesterday's newspapers. 310 00:23:07,419 --> 00:23:13,491 Noel Redding isn't anywhere near the standard of Jack or Mitch Mitchell 311 00:23:13,558 --> 00:23:16,627 or anywhere near the standard of me. 312 00:23:18,163 --> 00:23:21,966 He doesn't cope, in my opinion. 313 00:23:22,734 --> 00:23:28,706 It always has been that Eric's far the superior guitar player. 314 00:23:28,774 --> 00:23:31,842 Jimi was a fantastic showman, 315 00:23:31,910 --> 00:23:36,947 but, you know, Jimi was more in awe of Eric. 316 00:23:37,015 --> 00:23:40,084 Eric was in awe of Jimi too to a certain extent. 317 00:23:40,152 --> 00:23:43,921 Everybody was in a sort of friendly competition in a way, 318 00:23:43,989 --> 00:23:48,793 rather than the sort of cut-throat horrible thing 319 00:23:48,860 --> 00:23:50,928 it became only ten years later. 320 00:23:51,396 --> 00:23:55,466 The Brits were really the pioneers, 321 00:23:55,534 --> 00:23:58,569 as my dad put it, of making rock 'n' roll interesting. 322 00:24:22,394 --> 00:24:25,463 A lot of people thought Hendrix was like this English guy, 323 00:24:25,530 --> 00:24:27,965 this black English guy, which he wasn't. 324 00:24:28,033 --> 00:24:32,303 But he had two English players with him and that's kind ofwhere it started. 325 00:24:32,370 --> 00:24:35,840 In a way, race in America had defined Jimi. 326 00:24:35,907 --> 00:24:40,778 White radio stations wouldn't play music by African-American acts and vice versa. 327 00:24:40,846 --> 00:24:44,949 Jimi tried to straddle both worlds and couldn't find success in the US. 328 00:24:45,016 --> 00:24:48,752 He ended up going to England where his race was not the defining thing. 329 00:24:48,820 --> 00:24:53,257 It was never an issue about being black in Britain at that time. 330 00:24:53,325 --> 00:24:55,993 People just welcomed black people. 331 00:24:56,061 --> 00:25:01,232 It was part ofthe community and Jimi was part ofthat. 332 00:25:01,299 --> 00:25:05,536 So there was never a question about segregation and stuff like that. 333 00:25:05,604 --> 00:25:07,137 No, not at all. 334 00:25:07,205 --> 00:25:09,773 Especially when somebody plays like he does. 335 00:25:09,841 --> 00:25:12,676 I mean, he made a point straight away, you know? 336 00:25:12,744 --> 00:25:16,347 It was like, ''Whoa, this guy's so talented.'' 337 00:25:17,115 --> 00:25:22,686 To see the man play, you just thought of him as guitar. 338 00:25:22,754 --> 00:25:26,490 But the fact that he was black was exotic for a lot British chicks 339 00:25:26,558 --> 00:25:29,894 because they'd never seen a black guy play that kind of music, 340 00:25:29,961 --> 00:25:32,062 and they haven't seen one since, really. 341 00:25:32,130 --> 00:25:36,000 He came to London with a completely unique character 342 00:25:36,067 --> 00:25:39,336 relative to what was going on in that scene at the time. 343 00:25:39,938 --> 00:25:42,773 And so, with his musical experience, 344 00:25:42,841 --> 00:25:46,110 with his talent, with his background and so on, 345 00:25:46,177 --> 00:25:50,414 he was completely apart and different from the other guitar players. 346 00:25:50,482 --> 00:25:55,252 He was first black guy in my life I'd ever had a conversation with at all. 347 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,924 Guitarists were God and they didn't ever talk to bass players. 348 00:25:59,991 --> 00:26:01,358 So this black guy says to me, 349 00:26:01,426 --> 00:26:04,962 ''A friend of mine has got a bass like that.'' 350 00:26:05,030 --> 00:26:08,632 I was, ''Whoa, I'm a bass player. You're not supposed to talk to me.'' 351 00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:13,771 And then I had a half-an-hour conversation with Jimi 352 00:26:13,838 --> 00:26:19,543 before I had any clue who he was or what he was capable of. 353 00:26:19,611 --> 00:26:20,978 I saw him on the TV. 354 00:26:21,046 --> 00:26:24,848 It was on Sceie at 6.30 and there was a DJ called Pete Murray. 355 00:26:25,617 --> 00:26:28,652 He didn't know who Hendrix was. Nobody knew who Hendrix was. 356 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,155 ''Ladies and gentlemen, all the way from America, 357 00:26:31,222 --> 00:26:33,357 here they are, Jimi Hendrix.'' 358 00:26:33,425 --> 00:26:35,192 And he was like this, 359 00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:37,995 and you could see his face go like that. It dropped. 360 00:26:38,063 --> 00:26:40,965 Hendrix came on with his hair and he played HeyJoe, 361 00:26:41,032 --> 00:26:44,568 and it's absolutely fantastic because it was blues, 362 00:26:44,636 --> 00:26:47,204 and the way he played the guitar, it had everything. 363 00:26:47,272 --> 00:26:51,575 It had John Lee Hooker in there, it had the old blues story, 364 00:26:51,643 --> 00:26:55,012 and then he had the image, which was wild, it looked great. 365 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,081 And to cap it all, in the middle ofthe song, 366 00:26:57,148 --> 00:26:59,583 he picked his guitar up and played it with his teeth. 367 00:27:00,018 --> 00:27:03,220 I mean... You died right there. 368 00:27:03,288 --> 00:27:04,989 And he finished the song 369 00:27:05,056 --> 00:27:07,992 and they cut the camera back to Pete Murray, the DJ, 370 00:27:08,059 --> 00:27:10,527 and Pete Murray was still standing there going... 371 00:27:12,297 --> 00:27:17,635 Bless him! He was still there... ''Oh, and that was Jimi Hendrix.'' 372 00:27:17,702 --> 00:27:19,637 The whole country was just blown away. 373 00:27:19,704 --> 00:27:21,639 Anybody that was into music anyway. 374 00:27:21,706 --> 00:27:25,242 It's strange in a way that Jimi Hendrix had to come to England 375 00:27:25,310 --> 00:27:29,480 to get the recognition that he really needed. 376 00:27:29,547 --> 00:27:34,451 I feel that that's because he was so far ahead of his time 377 00:27:34,519 --> 00:27:38,689 compared to other black musicians in America. 378 00:27:38,757 --> 00:27:42,960 That's why everybody in England seemed to embrace him. 379 00:27:45,030 --> 00:27:48,365 Some people have said he was one of us, you know? 380 00:27:48,433 --> 00:27:52,636 I don't know whether he was one of us. I think he was from another planet. 381 00:27:52,704 --> 00:27:56,040 Most ofthe guys growing up in England loved these blues records, 382 00:27:56,107 --> 00:27:58,976 but hadn't had a chance to see many ofthese acts 383 00:27:59,044 --> 00:28:02,112 until Chas finally took a tour through England that people saw 384 00:28:02,180 --> 00:28:03,414 and it changed the world. 385 00:28:03,481 --> 00:28:08,152 I walked into Chess Records one afternoon and I says, ''Hey!'' 386 00:28:08,219 --> 00:28:11,755 Dude working there named Sonny. I said, ''Hey, Sonny baby!'' 387 00:28:14,859 --> 00:28:16,493 ''Y'all make records in here?'' 388 00:28:16,561 --> 00:28:21,231 He say, ''I ain't the one you want to see. You want to see Mr Chess.'' 389 00:28:21,299 --> 00:28:24,134 I say, ''Well, he's the right dude if he's the big dude.'' 390 00:28:25,403 --> 00:28:27,771 He say, ''Yeah, well, he's the one you want.'' 391 00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:32,276 In England, Jimi could take that African-American soul tradition 392 00:28:32,343 --> 00:28:36,980 and mix it with rock, and it was incendiary. 393 00:28:37,048 --> 00:28:41,652 The irony is that Jimi then takes that same music that he's been playing there 394 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,455 and goes back to America and is finally embraced. 395 00:28:44,522 --> 00:28:47,691 It's the exact same stuff he'd been doing in America before, 396 00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:49,660 but once he became famous in England, 397 00:28:49,728 --> 00:28:51,895 people in America began to listen to him. 398 00:28:51,963 --> 00:28:55,466 I never saw Jimi Hendrix as a black guy. 399 00:28:55,533 --> 00:28:59,770 I just saw him as a psychedelic, colourful man, 400 00:28:59,838 --> 00:29:03,974 that could do tricks with his guitars that nobody else could do. 401 00:29:17,722 --> 00:29:21,258 I think he probably had a bigger issue in the States 402 00:29:21,326 --> 00:29:24,194 where it was torn between white music and black music 403 00:29:24,262 --> 00:29:26,530 and everything that went along with that. 404 00:29:26,598 --> 00:29:29,299 You know, most ofthat music was written by black people, 405 00:29:29,367 --> 00:29:32,936 but they had to sell it to the white people to get it on the radio. 406 00:29:33,404 --> 00:29:37,674 In America, because he was an African- American and music was so segregated; 407 00:29:37,742 --> 00:29:40,944 literally, segregation was still going on when Jimi was coming up. 408 00:29:41,012 --> 00:29:45,849 He couldn't stay in the same hotel with white musicians in the South. 409 00:29:45,917 --> 00:29:49,553 He couldn't eat at the same restaurants. 410 00:29:49,621 --> 00:29:51,789 There are several stories people told me; 411 00:29:51,856 --> 00:29:55,159 one was just heartbreaking, of a time the bus that Jimi is in... 412 00:29:55,226 --> 00:29:57,961 He might have been with the Little Richard Band. 413 00:29:58,029 --> 00:30:00,330 But they stopped at a restaurant. 414 00:30:00,398 --> 00:30:03,200 They had one white guy in the entire group. 415 00:30:03,268 --> 00:30:05,969 They sent that guy in to buy all the food. 416 00:30:06,037 --> 00:30:11,008 He bought all the food and was carrying all these big boxes of food to the bus. 417 00:30:11,075 --> 00:30:14,678 He got to the bus and an African-American member ofthe band 418 00:30:14,746 --> 00:30:17,247 came out to help him carry the stuff that was falling. 419 00:30:17,315 --> 00:30:20,918 The guys in the restaurant came, took all the food and threw it on the ground. 420 00:30:20,985 --> 00:30:24,755 We couldn't play with the black kids, we couldn't play with the white kids. 421 00:30:24,823 --> 00:30:27,758 We were kind of in the middle. We're, like, off. 422 00:30:27,826 --> 00:30:30,127 Look at me and Jimi. We're different. 423 00:30:30,195 --> 00:30:31,829 That's the world Jimi grew up in. 424 00:30:31,896 --> 00:30:34,598 It greatly affected his music and who he was. 425 00:30:35,166 --> 00:30:39,002 We were kind of poor. We lived in a government complex 426 00:30:39,070 --> 00:30:41,572 that they had built for the navy 427 00:30:41,639 --> 00:30:45,108 because they thought that Japan was going invade the United States, 428 00:30:45,176 --> 00:30:47,744 so they built these navy barracks, 429 00:30:47,812 --> 00:30:50,781 which after a while they called it the projects. 430 00:30:50,849 --> 00:30:55,452 They essentially lived on welfare for a significant part of Jimi's early life. 431 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,624 His mother struggled with alcoholism, his dad struggled with alcoholism. 432 00:31:00,692 --> 00:31:02,426 They would always drink and argue, 433 00:31:02,493 --> 00:31:06,363 and Mom would leave or my dad would leave, and me and Jimi would be there. 434 00:31:06,431 --> 00:31:10,467 Like many great poets and musicians, Jimi wrote about his troubled childhood 435 00:31:10,535 --> 00:31:13,237 and expressed himself through the lyrics in his songs. 436 00:31:13,304 --> 00:31:16,974 The most autobiographical song to date is Castles Made of Sand. 437 00:31:17,041 --> 00:31:20,878 The first verse is about my mom and dad arguing, 438 00:31:20,945 --> 00:31:24,248 and he goes, ''Oh, girl, you must be mad.'' 439 00:31:24,315 --> 00:31:28,185 ''What happened to the sweet love me and you had?'' You know? 440 00:31:28,253 --> 00:31:33,757 And then Momma... We could see Momma right now, walking down the... 441 00:31:33,825 --> 00:31:39,096 My dad arguing and my momma leaving, you know? That's the first verse. 442 00:31:39,163 --> 00:31:41,531 The second verse is about me, 443 00:31:41,599 --> 00:31:44,234 the little Indian boy who, before he was ten, 444 00:31:44,302 --> 00:31:47,704 played war games in the woods with his Indian friends. 445 00:31:47,772 --> 00:31:50,374 And he built a dream that when he grew up, 446 00:31:50,441 --> 00:31:53,410 he'd be a fierce warrior Indian chief. 447 00:31:53,478 --> 00:31:56,146 But a surprise attack killed him in his sleep that night. 448 00:31:56,214 --> 00:31:58,115 That's when the welfare people took me. 449 00:31:58,182 --> 00:32:02,586 When his parents divorced, he lived primarily with his father, 450 00:32:02,654 --> 00:32:05,355 and there were a number of families in the neighbourhood 451 00:32:05,423 --> 00:32:07,424 who liked Jimi and took an interest in him. 452 00:32:07,492 --> 00:32:12,062 They would come over and take us to their house across the street 453 00:32:12,130 --> 00:32:14,765 and feed us, and me and Jimi would love it. 454 00:32:14,832 --> 00:32:17,067 Truly, the neighbourhood raised these kids. 455 00:32:17,135 --> 00:32:20,203 He didn't really consider that he had a family, 456 00:32:20,271 --> 00:32:24,241 but he did talk about his brother Leon with some affection. 457 00:32:24,309 --> 00:32:29,279 He just didn't like his dad, and didn't think that he was his dad. 458 00:32:29,347 --> 00:32:31,982 As a little kid, I think I'm three years old, 459 00:32:32,050 --> 00:32:36,086 I think that Jimi's my dad because he's the only one I know. 460 00:32:36,154 --> 00:32:39,089 He takes care of me, he makes my little cheese sandwiches, 461 00:32:39,157 --> 00:32:41,391 he'd scramble some eggs. 462 00:32:41,459 --> 00:32:46,663 Jimi, though, was the kind of kid that was a great adapter. 463 00:32:46,731 --> 00:32:49,533 Just like he, to a degree, adapted to the guitar, 464 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,301 he adapted to that environment. 465 00:32:51,369 --> 00:32:54,671 He was not sad in this kind of life. 466 00:32:54,739 --> 00:32:58,775 We thought that life was just fantastic, because I didn't know we were poor. 467 00:32:59,610 --> 00:33:02,079 Jimi was only 15 when his mother died, 468 00:33:02,146 --> 00:33:05,949 and the impact of her death affected him for the rest of his short life. 469 00:33:06,818 --> 00:33:10,053 He thought she was beautiful and he used to talk about her beauty 470 00:33:10,121 --> 00:33:14,858 and how light-skinned she was and, you know, pretty she was. 471 00:33:14,926 --> 00:33:19,329 Nobody that met Lucille ever had a bad word to say about her. 472 00:33:19,397 --> 00:33:22,332 He was always looking for somebody like his mother. 473 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:27,504 Really I think he had a completely romantic idea of his mother. 474 00:33:27,572 --> 00:33:30,407 Unfortunately, he ended up having a series 475 00:33:30,475 --> 00:33:34,244 ofvery short relationships with women, primarily, 476 00:33:34,312 --> 00:33:39,016 rather than someone that would nurture him the way his mother did. 477 00:33:39,083 --> 00:33:43,387 He wrote several songs that are so clearly a reference to his mother, 478 00:33:43,454 --> 00:33:47,524 and there's very little in his music that are references to his father. 479 00:33:47,592 --> 00:33:50,127 Al refused to go to her funeral, 480 00:33:50,194 --> 00:33:52,329 and the funeral was being held 481 00:33:52,397 --> 00:33:58,602 and they held it up for almost two hours waiting for Al, Jimi or Leon to show up. 482 00:33:58,669 --> 00:34:00,971 Al told Jimi, according to what Leon told me, 483 00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:02,672 ''You can take the bus down there.'' 484 00:34:02,740 --> 00:34:06,543 I think he regretted it, because he told me later that he did. 485 00:34:06,611 --> 00:34:08,545 He felt bad about it, he said he was sorry. 486 00:34:08,613 --> 00:34:11,214 And they never got a chance to say goodbye to her. 487 00:34:11,282 --> 00:34:14,484 Jimi had said, ''When I get big, I'm going away from here.'' 488 00:34:14,552 --> 00:34:16,219 ''I'm not going to stay here.'' 489 00:34:16,287 --> 00:34:18,955 ''I'm going to leave Seattle. I don't like it here.'' 490 00:34:23,995 --> 00:34:25,695 He said, ''Tell Dad 491 00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:28,465 that I got drummed out ofthe army on a medical.'' 492 00:34:28,533 --> 00:34:30,333 Or something, I don't know what it was. 493 00:34:30,401 --> 00:34:35,839 ''But I'm going to New York from here. I'm not coming home.'' 494 00:34:35,907 --> 00:34:39,009 Because Jimi left home because he didn't like it in Seattle 495 00:34:39,077 --> 00:34:42,212 because my dad was on him constantly about playing music 496 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,649 and yelling at him and screaming at him about he'll never make it. 497 00:34:45,716 --> 00:34:48,018 ''You need to start working with your hands.'' 498 00:34:48,086 --> 00:34:50,053 Jimi said, ''I am working with my hands.'' 499 00:34:50,121 --> 00:34:53,190 ''Did you ever notice that when I play guitar, I use both my hands?'' 500 00:34:53,257 --> 00:34:56,960 And my dad said, ''Don't talk back to me!'' 501 00:34:57,028 --> 00:34:58,328 But Ray Charles loved him 502 00:34:58,396 --> 00:35:01,531 because he was the best guitar player in Seattle at the time. 503 00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:03,200 And then all the bands loved him. 504 00:35:03,267 --> 00:35:06,303 He played with James Thomas and the Tom Cats, 505 00:35:06,370 --> 00:35:08,038 he played with the Rocking Kings, 506 00:35:08,106 --> 00:35:10,240 he played with Luther Rabb and the Stags. 507 00:35:10,308 --> 00:35:13,610 They would hire him on Friday for the gig and fire him on Sunday, 508 00:35:13,678 --> 00:35:15,278 and Jimi was very happy with that. 509 00:35:15,346 --> 00:35:18,381 So he could play at home and do his crazy shit, 510 00:35:18,449 --> 00:35:21,818 experiment and do all the stuff he wanted to do by himself, 511 00:35:21,886 --> 00:35:25,155 because he was still the greatest guitar player in Seattle at 15. 512 00:35:26,757 --> 00:35:28,658 He'd been playing for almost four years 513 00:35:28,726 --> 00:35:31,094 without anybody giving him any attention. 514 00:35:31,162 --> 00:35:34,030 Jimi started going to New York City and hanging out in Harlem 515 00:35:34,098 --> 00:35:36,133 and being exposed to different sources. 516 00:35:41,372 --> 00:35:43,573 He was happy. He was laughing all the time. 517 00:35:43,641 --> 00:35:46,977 He said, ''I'm playing at the Cafe Wha?, I've got a girlfriend and a car, 518 00:35:47,044 --> 00:35:49,846 I'm making $100 a week and I'm loving it!'' 519 00:35:49,914 --> 00:35:53,550 He said, ''Leon, I'm on tour with Little Richard!'' 520 00:35:53,618 --> 00:35:55,852 I'm going, ''Wow!'' 521 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,623 And then the next week he said, ''OK, I'm on tour with Tina Turner now.'' 522 00:35:59,690 --> 00:36:01,424 I'm going, ''Wow!'' 523 00:36:01,492 --> 00:36:03,960 He said, ''Yeah, you know, Little Richard fired me.'' 524 00:36:13,204 --> 00:36:16,873 ''Your brother was just too pretty. Too pretty!'' 525 00:36:16,941 --> 00:36:20,410 You know? He said, ''I'd like to...'' Because he was gay. 526 00:36:20,478 --> 00:36:22,312 He wouldn't always wear the uniform 527 00:36:22,380 --> 00:36:24,781 and Richard would get mad and he'd fine the people. 528 00:36:24,849 --> 00:36:27,717 Jimi was making something like $25 a gig. 529 00:36:27,785 --> 00:36:31,454 When Little Richard gave him a $25 fine, he'd make nothing for the gig. 530 00:36:31,522 --> 00:36:34,391 Solomon Burke, the great soul singer, 531 00:36:34,458 --> 00:36:37,961 claimed that Jimi was traded among these bands, 532 00:36:38,029 --> 00:36:41,965 almost like you'd swap baseball players in Major League baseball. 533 00:36:42,033 --> 00:36:45,101 One band would trade Jimi. ''We can't work with him any more.'' 534 00:36:45,169 --> 00:36:50,173 ''We'll trade you for a horn player and a drummer to be named later.'' 535 00:36:50,241 --> 00:36:53,310 But Jimi played with everybody, but nobody for very long. 536 00:36:53,377 --> 00:36:58,014 It wasn't the success that Jimi found in England that made him a great player. 537 00:36:58,082 --> 00:37:02,018 Instead, it was the lack of success 538 00:37:02,086 --> 00:37:05,589 that gave him a purpose to explore his own muse. 539 00:37:05,656 --> 00:37:09,593 Across 110th Street was black New York and below that was white New York 540 00:37:09,660 --> 00:37:11,795 and the musicians did not interact. 541 00:37:11,862 --> 00:37:13,730 And there's four clubs 542 00:37:14,632 --> 00:37:17,767 on Bleecker Street in New York. 543 00:37:17,835 --> 00:37:21,371 Jimi, however, was the only African- American guy playing in the Village, 544 00:37:21,439 --> 00:37:23,974 and then he'd go up to Harlem and play there, too. 545 00:37:24,041 --> 00:37:29,346 But one day he went up to Harlem to an African-American club, 546 00:37:29,413 --> 00:37:33,483 went up to the DJ booth and said, ''I got a great new single I want to play.'' 547 00:37:33,551 --> 00:37:36,686 He goes and he puts on Bob Dylan's Blowii'ii the Wiid. 548 00:37:36,754 --> 00:37:39,756 Jimi loved Bob Dylan. 549 00:37:39,824 --> 00:37:43,660 He would say, ''Listen to this, Leon.'' Because he was such a poet. 550 00:37:43,728 --> 00:37:45,595 They probably would have killed him 551 00:37:45,663 --> 00:37:48,398 ifthey didn't think he was crazy for doing this. 552 00:37:48,466 --> 00:37:51,968 He was encouraged by Dylan. Thinking he had a terrible singing voice, 553 00:37:52,036 --> 00:37:54,904 he found out what you could do with a terrible singing voice. 554 00:37:54,972 --> 00:37:59,643 He admired Bob Dylan as a songwriter and that's why he did some of his songs. 555 00:37:59,710 --> 00:38:02,879 And he loved soul music and, to a degree, 556 00:38:02,947 --> 00:38:05,315 what he created with the Jimi Hendrix Experience 557 00:38:05,383 --> 00:38:08,318 was a combination ofthose two things. 558 00:38:08,386 --> 00:38:10,754 It was like the punk thing in a way, Dylan. 559 00:38:10,821 --> 00:38:14,391 He demonstrated that you could make great records and sing great songs 560 00:38:14,458 --> 00:38:16,926 without being a master singer. 561 00:38:16,994 --> 00:38:19,629 Jimi's deep admiration for Dylan 562 00:38:19,697 --> 00:38:22,899 inspired him to record All Along the Watchtower. 563 00:38:22,967 --> 00:38:26,236 The finished version was released on the album Electric Ladylaid 564 00:38:26,304 --> 00:38:28,138 in September 1968. 565 00:38:28,205 --> 00:38:33,977 The Johi Wesley Hardiig album, I think he brought that back from the States, 566 00:38:34,045 --> 00:38:35,545 and he loved it. 567 00:38:35,613 --> 00:38:37,047 Absolutely loved it. 568 00:38:37,114 --> 00:38:39,716 That was played and played. And I liked it as well. 569 00:38:39,784 --> 00:38:44,921 After a while, even I sort of was into it, so he played it a lot. 570 00:38:44,989 --> 00:38:48,858 And he wanted to do a Bob Dylan cover. 571 00:38:50,027 --> 00:38:53,563 Nobody else except for Bob Dylan does he want to do this with, 572 00:38:53,631 --> 00:38:56,966 and he wanted to do I Dreamed I Saw St Augustine. 573 00:38:57,034 --> 00:39:00,837 For some reason, he just loved that track, 574 00:39:00,905 --> 00:39:03,640 but he thought that was too personal to Bob Dylan. 575 00:39:03,708 --> 00:39:06,209 So I said, ''What about All Along the Watchtower?'' 576 00:39:06,277 --> 00:39:09,879 I played the acoustic guitar on it, 577 00:39:09,947 --> 00:39:13,483 with Jimi sitting opposite me kind of doing all that... 578 00:39:13,551 --> 00:39:16,820 All that kind of accent stuff. 579 00:39:16,887 --> 00:39:19,222 But pretty much, it was... 580 00:39:32,536 --> 00:39:35,238 That's pretty much what I play underneath it. 581 00:39:37,208 --> 00:39:38,842 And it's sort of... 582 00:39:38,909 --> 00:39:42,779 Dave Mason was in this little studio with Brian Jones 583 00:39:42,847 --> 00:39:45,615 and Jimi was in the main studio. 584 00:39:45,683 --> 00:39:49,052 And anyway, they did it and when he'd finished, 585 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,056 everybody behind the console just stood up and went, ''Wow!'' 586 00:39:53,124 --> 00:39:54,758 ''Can we believe that?'' 587 00:39:54,825 --> 00:39:56,159 It was me and him and Mitch. 588 00:39:57,695 --> 00:39:59,696 The first time I heard Jimi Hendrix play, 589 00:39:59,764 --> 00:40:03,833 I figured, ''I should probably go find another instrument to play.'' 590 00:40:05,703 --> 00:40:07,036 But... 591 00:40:09,740 --> 00:40:13,576 So anyway, I think you know what this tune is. 592 00:41:30,721 --> 00:41:34,190 It was a period oftime when we were hanging together. 593 00:41:34,258 --> 00:41:41,364 Like I said, we were sort of hinting at maybe playing bass with him. 594 00:41:41,932 --> 00:41:44,734 So that's kind of how that came about. 595 00:41:46,136 --> 00:41:48,771 The solo's actually three different solos, really. 596 00:41:50,241 --> 00:41:52,175 The slide part, 597 00:41:52,243 --> 00:41:56,779 he played it with it sitting on his lap with a cigarette lighter. 598 00:41:59,617 --> 00:42:01,851 And then the last part of it is a different tone. 599 00:42:01,919 --> 00:42:05,622 There's really three different sections to that solo 600 00:42:05,689 --> 00:42:09,392 in the middle of Watchtower, if you listen to it. 601 00:42:09,460 --> 00:42:12,228 Most ofthat track was pretty much done in... 602 00:42:15,299 --> 00:42:19,269 I don't know. A lot of it was done in a day. 603 00:42:19,336 --> 00:42:21,771 But he still wasn't happy with it. 604 00:42:21,839 --> 00:42:23,273 No, no, no. Not Jimi. 605 00:42:23,340 --> 00:42:26,309 He had to do it over and over and over again. 606 00:42:26,377 --> 00:42:28,177 He had to take it to the States and do it. 607 00:42:28,245 --> 00:42:30,280 See, that's the thing with Jimi. 608 00:42:30,347 --> 00:42:32,715 He needed someone to stop him from doing this. 609 00:42:32,783 --> 00:42:36,352 This is the trouble, the problems that he had with Chas Chandler. 610 00:42:36,420 --> 00:42:41,090 Chas Chandler was ofthe old school of a four-minute pop song, see? 611 00:42:41,158 --> 00:42:47,697 Whereas Jimi wanted to go on for hours! 612 00:42:47,765 --> 00:42:49,432 It was really tedious. 613 00:42:50,367 --> 00:42:53,169 Because only he could hear what he needed. 614 00:42:53,237 --> 00:42:57,540 To you or me, it sounded just like he had it right anyway. 615 00:42:57,608 --> 00:43:00,610 And then he would go on for another six hours. 616 00:43:00,678 --> 00:43:03,646 He was creating new things that weren't even there to invent. 617 00:43:03,714 --> 00:43:05,982 They had to come up with stuff at Olympic for him 618 00:43:06,050 --> 00:43:08,484 to get things that he wanted to do. 619 00:43:10,054 --> 00:43:12,589 - Like guitar sounds, you mean? - Sounds and... 620 00:43:12,656 --> 00:43:17,427 I think they actually built a couple of limiters and stuff in there for him. 621 00:43:17,494 --> 00:43:24,000 In those days, I think the restrictions upon you to make any different sounds 622 00:43:24,068 --> 00:43:28,671 inspired you instead of discouraging you, for some reason. 623 00:43:28,739 --> 00:43:34,043 But we were all fucking optimists in those days anyway, you know what I mean? 624 00:43:34,578 --> 00:43:38,348 He had nobody there helping, supervising in the studio, 625 00:43:38,415 --> 00:43:44,354 and so consequently he was doing take after take after take after take, 626 00:43:44,421 --> 00:43:46,322 and running through tapes, 627 00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:53,830 and everybody was a little bit afraid to erase anything, 628 00:43:53,897 --> 00:43:56,933 and so consequently the tapes were just piling up in the studio 629 00:43:57,001 --> 00:44:00,336 with no usable material on it. 630 00:44:00,404 --> 00:44:04,707 And so I just started to help from a production point ofview. 631 00:44:07,811 --> 00:44:09,946 I think that... 632 00:44:10,014 --> 00:44:12,882 I've been criticised for saying what I'm going to tell you, 633 00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:15,251 but it's the truth as far as I'm concerned. 634 00:44:15,319 --> 00:44:19,589 You couldn't produce Jimi Hendrix, you could only help him produce himself. 635 00:44:20,324 --> 00:44:25,862 He knew what he wanted to do but he didn't know how to get there or why. 636 00:44:25,929 --> 00:44:31,634 So you could only try to help the situation with the musicians, 637 00:44:31,702 --> 00:44:34,871 with the studio, with the production part of it. 638 00:44:34,938 --> 00:44:38,508 It was all about work. No goofing off, no messing around. 639 00:44:38,575 --> 00:44:40,910 People come in there and start to goof off, 640 00:44:40,978 --> 00:44:44,180 he'd just tell them to get out, leave, get out of here. 641 00:44:44,248 --> 00:44:46,916 He was very serious about what he was doing. 642 00:44:47,384 --> 00:44:51,087 In early June, 1967, the Beatles' Sgt Pepperalbum 643 00:44:51,155 --> 00:44:54,424 was released in England and was a massive phenomenon. 644 00:44:54,491 --> 00:44:57,193 Everyone in England was listening to the album. 645 00:44:57,261 --> 00:45:01,197 Two days later, the Experience were playing at London's Saville Theatre, 646 00:45:01,265 --> 00:45:04,400 Brian Epstein's place and obviously the Beatles' home turf. 647 00:45:04,468 --> 00:45:07,570 Jimi insisted on opening the show with his own rendition 648 00:45:07,638 --> 00:45:10,106 of Sgt Pepper's Lonely hearts Club Band. 649 00:45:10,174 --> 00:45:12,341 Members ofthe Beatles and the Rolling Stones 650 00:45:12,409 --> 00:45:16,746 and many others were in the audience. It was obvious the guy had balls. 651 00:45:16,814 --> 00:45:21,384 If Jimi would have fucked that up, his career would have been over that moment. 652 00:45:21,452 --> 00:45:24,454 Paul McCartney apparently was there 653 00:45:24,521 --> 00:45:27,990 and went straight out and bought a guitar the next day 654 00:45:28,058 --> 00:45:32,061 and thought, ''You know, this guy is something special.'' 655 00:45:32,129 --> 00:45:36,065 ''I'm going to learn how to play blues guitar.'' 656 00:45:36,133 --> 00:45:40,703 Afterwards, Paul McCartney says, ''You need to play the Monterey Pop Festival.'' 657 00:46:13,971 --> 00:46:18,608 It was at Monterey the first time I heard him play. 658 00:46:18,675 --> 00:46:20,343 That was the day that I met him. 659 00:46:21,512 --> 00:46:26,215 He was kind of new to all of us here on the West Coast. 660 00:46:28,819 --> 00:46:34,023 I'm there in my full-blown Indian headdress. 661 00:46:41,565 --> 00:46:45,368 This whole Monterey scene was not as friendly as everybody thought. 662 00:46:45,435 --> 00:46:47,637 Everybody wanted to be a big star 663 00:46:47,704 --> 00:46:50,406 and everyone saw this as their launching pad, 664 00:46:50,474 --> 00:46:53,509 so they flipped a coin to see who was going to go first. 665 00:46:53,577 --> 00:46:55,611 Hendrix loses and he's pissed about it. 666 00:46:58,582 --> 00:47:01,984 But he's going to top them somehow, and vice versa. 667 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,557 He's backstage and says, ''Get me lighter fluid. I've got to top these guys!'' 668 00:47:07,624 --> 00:47:09,692 And it was absolutely amazing, 669 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,662 and I was all day with a crush of people photographing him 670 00:47:12,729 --> 00:47:16,065 setting his guitar on fire and all that voodoo stuff. 671 00:47:22,139 --> 00:47:27,210 When Jimi started smashing his stuff, Mama Cass turned to Pete Townshend 672 00:47:27,277 --> 00:47:30,246 and said, ''That guy, he's stealing your act!'' 673 00:47:30,314 --> 00:47:33,449 And Townshend's response is, ''No, he's doing my act!'' 674 00:47:36,353 --> 00:47:41,023 I mean, he came out there all colourful, and the way he made it talk. 675 00:47:41,091 --> 00:47:43,426 He could just make the guitar talk! 676 00:47:43,493 --> 00:47:47,029 And it was coming from an African-American performer 677 00:47:47,097 --> 00:47:51,200 who had been in that blues tradition, who had known the chitlin' circuit, 678 00:47:51,268 --> 00:47:54,837 who had known the degradation and segregation ofthe American South, 679 00:47:54,905 --> 00:47:58,241 and who brought his own angle and take to the music. 680 00:48:02,779 --> 00:48:06,482 Hendrix playing guitar with his teeth, picking the guitar with his teeth, 681 00:48:06,550 --> 00:48:07,950 it was just mind-blowing. 682 00:48:08,018 --> 00:48:13,389 He did his 20-, 30-minute set and people were just gobsmacked. 683 00:48:13,457 --> 00:48:16,692 The day that performance was over, the moment it was over, 684 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,663 he was the biggest star in America that moment. 685 00:48:20,731 --> 00:48:24,600 He was unheard of 45 minutes before. No one knew who he was! 686 00:48:27,838 --> 00:48:30,573 I think I had heard HeyJoe a couple oftimes, 687 00:48:30,641 --> 00:48:32,341 which is a folk tune that I knew. 688 00:48:32,409 --> 00:48:36,646 I just loved the energy of it and the anarchy ofthe whole thing. 689 00:48:36,713 --> 00:48:40,149 The only part I disagreed with was burning the guitar, 690 00:48:40,217 --> 00:48:44,453 because we'd all been poor not very long before. 691 00:48:46,056 --> 00:48:51,861 So the idea of destroying an instrument was appalling. 692 00:48:52,829 --> 00:48:55,798 The only thing was is I remember how hard guitars were to get 693 00:48:55,866 --> 00:49:00,002 so I've only broken, on purpose, a couple of guitars in my career. 694 00:49:00,470 --> 00:49:03,539 Some say the sound ofthe wind rushing past his ears 695 00:49:03,607 --> 00:49:07,209 and the roaring of a drop plane heard during his time in the army, 696 00:49:07,277 --> 00:49:09,011 might have influenced his desire 697 00:49:09,079 --> 00:49:12,214 to subconsciously recreate those sounds on his guitar. 698 00:49:12,282 --> 00:49:16,118 We happened to clean out this lady's garage, 699 00:49:16,186 --> 00:49:18,888 and there was a ukulele there with one string on it. 700 00:49:19,990 --> 00:49:22,358 One old raggedy ukulele. 701 00:49:22,426 --> 00:49:24,894 And the first song he played was Peter Gunn. 702 00:49:27,864 --> 00:49:32,268 Remember? OK. Because it was simple; you can play it one string. 703 00:49:33,971 --> 00:49:35,871 So he kind of figured out that, 704 00:49:35,939 --> 00:49:41,410 ''If I tighten the string, I can go to another key note, right?'' 705 00:49:41,478 --> 00:49:46,716 That's what he did to the music that night when the Top 40 came on. 706 00:49:46,783 --> 00:49:49,652 He'd figured out that... He only had one string, right? 707 00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:54,490 But he knew that if he lowered it, he could lower the key, 708 00:49:54,558 --> 00:49:56,993 and if he tightened it he can higher the key. 709 00:49:57,060 --> 00:50:03,566 He finally got to where he was playing songs on one string on a ukulele. 710 00:50:03,633 --> 00:50:05,668 Not only could he virtually play anything, 711 00:50:05,736 --> 00:50:07,937 somebody could say, ''This song's in this key,'' 712 00:50:08,005 --> 00:50:10,206 and he could pick it up immediately. 713 00:50:10,273 --> 00:50:12,441 He had an intuition about music. 714 00:50:12,509 --> 00:50:14,043 I guess he could feel the music. 715 00:50:14,111 --> 00:50:16,612 He could feel the notes, he can do all that shit. 716 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,048 Al didn't like Jimi playing the guitar anyways, 717 00:50:19,116 --> 00:50:22,551 but if Jimi was playing left-handed and Al came in the room, 718 00:50:22,619 --> 00:50:26,389 Jimi would just simply flip it over immediately. 719 00:50:26,456 --> 00:50:30,826 But the fact that he could continue mid-song doing that is the amazing part. 720 00:50:30,894 --> 00:50:34,497 When my dad found out he was playing left-handed, my dad gave him a whupping. 721 00:50:34,564 --> 00:50:38,734 I mean, he's a great lead player. Hands down, everybody knows that. 722 00:50:38,802 --> 00:50:41,337 But he was a phenomenal rhythm player. 723 00:50:41,405 --> 00:50:47,543 He was a phenomenal picker for arpeggios and that kind of stuff. 724 00:50:47,611 --> 00:50:53,749 But he also did amazing two-note sort of riff kind ofthings. 725 00:50:53,817 --> 00:50:56,052 He really had it all going on. 726 00:50:56,119 --> 00:51:03,092 I mean, you can be of any style of guitar player, 727 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:07,229 from jazz to rock, blues, whatever, and appreciate Jimi's playing, 728 00:51:07,297 --> 00:51:12,268 because he was really tapped into so many different things. 729 00:51:12,335 --> 00:51:16,138 And all delivered with this unique style. 730 00:51:16,206 --> 00:51:19,975 It really made him just a fascinating fucking musician. 731 00:51:20,043 --> 00:51:22,745 The fingers on his right hand, when he played leftie, 732 00:51:22,813 --> 00:51:27,917 were so strong that it almost sounded like he was playing bottleneck. 733 00:51:27,984 --> 00:51:30,886 So that's why... 734 00:51:30,954 --> 00:51:35,991 I think Jeff Beck is almost as strong, 735 00:51:36,059 --> 00:51:38,260 and Eric on occasion. 736 00:51:39,296 --> 00:51:41,564 Stevie Ray Vaughan had that, too, 737 00:51:41,631 --> 00:51:45,501 where they're digging in so hard, it almost sounds like bottleneck. 738 00:51:45,569 --> 00:51:47,670 He had really big hands, right? 739 00:51:47,737 --> 00:51:51,974 And he had just a way of knowing where these notes were. 740 00:51:52,042 --> 00:51:55,411 He'd drape his fingers over the strings in such a way 741 00:51:55,479 --> 00:51:59,148 that he knew exactly what he was hitting and what he shouldn't be hitting. 742 00:51:59,216 --> 00:52:01,584 But if you look at the way that he formed chords, 743 00:52:01,651 --> 00:52:05,354 they were unique to him. 744 00:52:05,422 --> 00:52:08,691 He was the guy that in rock guitar, I think, 745 00:52:08,758 --> 00:52:12,328 made draping your thumb over for the bass note 746 00:52:12,395 --> 00:52:19,101 and doing the other four fingers for the high notes as a bar chord. 747 00:52:19,169 --> 00:52:22,805 I don't recall too many guitar players doing that before he came along. 748 00:52:22,873 --> 00:52:26,775 - Hands like tarantulas. - And he used his thumb a lot, right? 749 00:52:26,843 --> 00:52:30,946 I used to say to him, ''You should have been a fucking pickpocket.'' 750 00:52:32,649 --> 00:52:38,521 He made a lot of chords with his thumb over. 751 00:52:38,588 --> 00:52:42,057 That would be halfthe chord. Then he could play lead underneath it. 752 00:52:42,125 --> 00:52:44,927 I can't bend this finger back, right? 753 00:52:44,995 --> 00:52:47,496 But he could definitely bend it back. 754 00:52:47,564 --> 00:52:55,104 He had the flat 9, the minor 7 flat 9 chord, 755 00:52:55,172 --> 00:52:58,641 which is in Purple Haze and Foxy Lady, and he used it a lot, 756 00:52:58,708 --> 00:53:03,145 where he could drape his ring finger over all the strings 757 00:53:03,213 --> 00:53:06,815 and not hit them with the bottom of his finger. 758 00:53:07,884 --> 00:53:10,619 He could bend this to lay it down over three strings. 759 00:53:10,687 --> 00:53:15,491 He had a unique way of forming chords. It was very natural to him. 760 00:53:15,559 --> 00:53:19,028 He liked the fact of having a Strat upside down, 761 00:53:19,095 --> 00:53:23,232 because the pick-ups came in at a certain angle. 762 00:53:23,300 --> 00:53:24,700 The only thing it affected 763 00:53:24,768 --> 00:53:27,736 was that he had the whammy bar under his arm, at the top. 764 00:53:27,804 --> 00:53:31,340 So he could use the whammy bar without taking his hand offthe strings. 765 00:53:31,408 --> 00:53:34,743 That was the only advantage it gave him, but it's a big advantage. 766 00:53:34,811 --> 00:53:40,049 He played upside down backwards. He was like a dyslexic genius. 767 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,229 He used to play on a broom. 768 00:53:53,296 --> 00:53:58,767 Do air guitar to Chuck Berry and Mickey & Sylvia, 769 00:53:58,835 --> 00:54:03,339 and black artists like Muddy Waters and stuff like that. 770 00:54:11,147 --> 00:54:15,918 Jimi was wah-wah man. That guy could use a wah-wah pedal. 771 00:54:15,986 --> 00:54:19,321 I've seen the rigs that these new guitar players have. 772 00:54:19,389 --> 00:54:26,028 There's $20,000 worth of pedals in an Anvil case, man. 773 00:54:26,096 --> 00:54:29,565 They're dancing and pushing pedals and they're trying to play chords. 774 00:54:29,633 --> 00:54:32,134 They're so busy technologically. 775 00:54:33,703 --> 00:54:36,105 Jimi took a wah-wah pedal and feedback 776 00:54:36,172 --> 00:54:39,308 and did what these guys are doing with $20,000 rigs. 777 00:54:39,376 --> 00:54:45,781 When it came to performing live, he had a pretty limited pedal board, 778 00:54:45,849 --> 00:54:51,220 which was a Fuzz Face and the octave thing, the octaver, 779 00:54:51,288 --> 00:54:55,324 and the wah-wah pedal, and it was pretty simple. 780 00:54:55,392 --> 00:54:56,925 And that's all he had, really. 781 00:54:56,993 --> 00:54:59,328 He didn't have any effects apart from that. 782 00:54:59,396 --> 00:55:03,532 And the things he used to do with that guitar was just beyond all reason. 783 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,602 He just holds it up in front of him 784 00:55:06,670 --> 00:55:10,005 and it's going all over the place but he's not moving it, hardly. 785 00:55:10,073 --> 00:55:13,876 It's like, ''Wow, man, where do you come up with that?'' 786 00:55:13,943 --> 00:55:15,811 It's a clever thing. 787 00:55:15,879 --> 00:55:18,080 You can do a lot of different speeds with it, 788 00:55:18,148 --> 00:55:20,082 you can do a lot of different stuff. 789 00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:22,885 You can use a long one right through half a verse. 790 00:55:22,952 --> 00:55:24,420 It's only been pushed once, 791 00:55:24,487 --> 00:55:27,656 and you can do it really fast and get that ''wah-wah-wah''. 792 00:55:27,724 --> 00:55:30,926 So he was constantly experimenting with shit like that. 793 00:55:31,761 --> 00:55:33,595 You listen to some ofthe stuff live. 794 00:55:33,663 --> 00:55:38,400 We always used to go see him at Winterland, the Fillmore East, 795 00:55:38,468 --> 00:55:43,339 the Avalon Ballroom. 796 00:55:43,406 --> 00:55:45,774 I'd stand behind the amps and I'd go, 797 00:55:45,842 --> 00:55:48,811 ''Look at this guy. This guy's controlling his feedback.'' 798 00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,723 Like, most guys hit a chord, 799 00:56:00,790 --> 00:56:03,959 and when it dissolves, it doesn't dissolve into a melody. 800 00:56:04,027 --> 00:56:08,897 It dissolves into white noise and it don't go anywhere. 801 00:56:08,965 --> 00:56:12,735 Jimi could make his guitar sound like a race car. 802 00:56:20,944 --> 00:56:23,645 I'd look at that guy and go, ''Wow, how's he doing that?'' 803 00:56:23,713 --> 00:56:25,781 Nobody's ever done that before or since. 804 00:56:25,849 --> 00:56:29,017 Nobody's ever had that much control over it. You know what I mean? 805 00:56:29,085 --> 00:56:32,187 He'd have a pause in the song and he'd hit a thing. 806 00:56:32,255 --> 00:56:36,925 It would be feedback out of control, but in the right note and controlled. 807 00:56:36,993 --> 00:56:40,929 I don't think that he was controlled at all. 808 00:56:40,997 --> 00:56:46,535 I think that when he pushed the human button, 809 00:56:46,603 --> 00:56:49,671 he was just totally out of control. 810 00:56:49,739 --> 00:56:53,675 Jimi used to have an expression. He always used the word ''sounds''. 811 00:56:53,743 --> 00:56:57,346 He would use it at the end of his sentence, and so on. 812 00:56:59,716 --> 00:57:03,285 All sounds fascinated him, you know? 813 00:57:03,353 --> 00:57:05,254 Whenever he heard a sound, he thought, 814 00:57:05,321 --> 00:57:08,023 what could he do with it or how could he play with it 815 00:57:08,091 --> 00:57:09,691 or how could he manipulate it? 816 00:57:09,759 --> 00:57:12,694 And so feedback and wah-wah and all those things 817 00:57:12,762 --> 00:57:18,033 were just some additional methods for him to get at some more sounds. 818 00:57:18,101 --> 00:57:23,038 Jimi told me one time, ''Leon, I wish the guitar was a bigger instrument, 819 00:57:23,106 --> 00:57:26,241 because I have so much music to play but I'm limited.'' 820 00:57:26,309 --> 00:57:31,547 ''I've got six strings and I have to deal with six strings.'' 821 00:57:31,614 --> 00:57:35,284 So he was very smart, so he said, 822 00:57:35,351 --> 00:57:39,922 ''I think I'll tune to E flat, give myself an extra fret.'' 823 00:57:40,590 --> 00:57:43,792 He knew what he wanted to do and he knew what he wanted to hear, 824 00:57:43,860 --> 00:57:50,466 and he knew the sounds he was trying to create that he heard in his head. 825 00:57:50,533 --> 00:57:54,069 He just went for it. He tried to create those sounds. 826 00:57:54,137 --> 00:57:59,975 If he heard something that was right by moving closer to his amplifier, 827 00:58:00,043 --> 00:58:01,810 he would. 828 00:58:01,878 --> 00:58:03,378 He was just fearless. 829 00:58:03,446 --> 00:58:09,485 He was very experimental with a lot of electronic gadgets that he used to use. 830 00:58:09,552 --> 00:58:11,653 And he said, ''Make me this little box 831 00:58:11,721 --> 00:58:17,226 that makes my chords and my notes and tones sound fuzzy.'' 832 00:58:17,293 --> 00:58:20,696 So this... Now they call them nerds. 833 00:58:20,763 --> 00:58:23,465 Before we called them very intellectual engineers. 834 00:58:23,533 --> 00:58:26,802 They invented this little box that he could plug his guitar into 835 00:58:26,870 --> 00:58:28,804 and then go into the amp. 836 00:58:28,872 --> 00:58:33,275 And he got this fuzz... warm fuzz tone. 837 00:58:33,343 --> 00:58:40,582 The fuzz box basically comes out of Jimi's stuff, really, 838 00:58:40,650 --> 00:58:46,088 but what he was doing in the studio with what he was laying down 839 00:58:46,155 --> 00:58:50,592 was very different, too, and the way he was approaching it. 840 00:58:50,660 --> 00:58:56,665 I think he's the most innovative electric guitar player. 841 00:58:56,733 --> 00:58:58,901 I've sat with him... 842 00:58:58,968 --> 00:59:02,104 I sat with him a couple of nights and he'd just always have a guitar. 843 00:59:02,171 --> 00:59:06,408 He'd just sit and play, and just play and play 844 00:59:06,476 --> 00:59:09,311 and never repeat himself and come up with something. 845 00:59:09,379 --> 00:59:12,814 He had a little arsenal of gear and he was, from what I'm told, 846 00:59:12,882 --> 00:59:18,921 really fascinated with different little pieces of electronic wizardry 847 00:59:18,988 --> 00:59:25,661 that he used to emphasise whatever it was he was trying to communicate. 848 00:59:25,728 --> 00:59:30,666 But as just a straight-ahead guitar player with his most basic approach, 849 00:59:30,733 --> 00:59:34,570 it was a Marshall turned all the way up, the guitar and a wah-wah pedal. 850 00:59:34,637 --> 00:59:38,140 He didn't need much. Just a loud amp and a guitar! 851 00:59:39,542 --> 00:59:42,377 He came to me and said, ''I like that gear.'' 852 00:59:43,546 --> 00:59:48,216 So I said, ''Well, come to my shop in Hanwell.'' 853 00:59:49,619 --> 00:59:53,755 ''Mitch'll bring you, and we'll talk about it.'' 854 00:59:53,823 --> 00:59:59,261 So he came and he said, ''I just want to play Marshall.'' 855 00:59:59,329 --> 01:00:03,899 He said, ''I will need probably three ofthose stacks.'' 856 01:00:03,967 --> 01:00:07,903 And almost in the next breath, he said, ''I don't want anything given to me.'' 857 01:00:07,971 --> 01:00:10,706 ''I want to pay the full retail price.'' 858 01:00:10,773 --> 01:00:13,642 He said, ''What I want is service wherever I am in the world.'' 859 01:00:13,710 --> 01:00:16,945 And we were never called out once. 860 01:00:17,013 --> 01:00:20,382 But then Jimi bought four complete stage setups 861 01:00:20,450 --> 01:00:22,584 to have them in different parts ofthe world 862 01:00:22,652 --> 01:00:26,855 so he wouldn't have to transport them too far, wherever he was playing. 863 01:00:26,923 --> 01:00:29,591 Marshalls are really good. 864 01:00:29,659 --> 01:00:32,661 Naturally I wanted the loudest, the biggest amp possible. 865 01:00:32,729 --> 01:00:35,030 As long as you have the loudest and biggest, 866 01:00:35,098 --> 01:00:38,700 then you can bring it down to whatever level you want, or keep it there. 867 01:00:38,768 --> 01:00:42,371 A double stack of Marshalls is by definition super-loud. 868 01:00:42,438 --> 01:00:48,310 That's 16 speakers and two 100-watt heads, 869 01:00:48,378 --> 01:00:53,682 but in series, so already, the voltage was taken down a little bit. 870 01:00:53,750 --> 01:00:57,819 But it was very warm and fuzzy and all-embracing 871 01:00:57,887 --> 01:01:00,222 and was plenty loud for us. 872 01:01:00,289 --> 01:01:05,661 I don't think you could have turned any other amp up 873 01:01:05,728 --> 01:01:09,398 to the volume that Hendrix did with a Stratocaster 874 01:01:09,465 --> 01:01:11,033 and got it to sound like that. 875 01:01:11,100 --> 01:01:16,938 I remember seeing bands since where I had to leave the stage 876 01:01:17,006 --> 01:01:19,074 where I was standing alongside ofthe stage 877 01:01:19,142 --> 01:01:23,945 because my molars hurt so bad from just being overwhelmed. 878 01:01:24,013 --> 01:01:27,315 And Jimi was never that loud. 879 01:01:27,383 --> 01:01:31,253 He was just a regular stack of Marshalls loud, which was plenty enough. 880 01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,890 It's more the player, who that person is. 881 01:01:34,957 --> 01:01:37,859 You find something that you identify with, 882 01:01:37,927 --> 01:01:41,496 be it an amplifier, a guitar or a pedal or whatever it is, 883 01:01:41,564 --> 01:01:45,834 and if you like it, if it appeals to you, it becomes part of your thing, 884 01:01:45,902 --> 01:01:49,438 and that's part ofthat individual. 885 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,575 Jeff Beck was another guy that took a Strat with a Marshall 886 01:01:53,643 --> 01:01:55,043 and cranked it all the way up. 887 01:01:55,111 --> 01:01:58,947 Then there's a myriad of guys that it doesn't work with. 888 01:01:59,015 --> 01:02:01,950 For me, a Strat and a Marshall never worked. 889 01:02:02,018 --> 01:02:03,785 A Les Paul and a Marshall worked. 890 01:02:03,853 --> 01:02:08,390 Each individual has how they communicate what they want to sound like. 891 01:02:08,458 --> 01:02:13,328 Believe me, those of us that kept using that kind of amplifier 892 01:02:13,396 --> 01:02:16,765 are paying by having to wear these. 893 01:02:18,601 --> 01:02:24,673 He has moments of being in your standard blues kind ofthing, 894 01:02:24,741 --> 01:02:28,877 but he'll use some unorthodox notes, 895 01:02:28,945 --> 01:02:32,647 which is probably one ofthe key things that I picked up from him. 896 01:02:32,715 --> 01:02:37,319 He exposed a chord that he could feed back, use his wah-wah, hit a chord, 897 01:02:37,386 --> 01:02:41,223 it would come out ofthat dimension, that thing he hit where it was like... 898 01:02:43,860 --> 01:02:47,329 There are certain key notes that make rock sound like rock, 899 01:02:47,396 --> 01:02:52,968 and there's other notes that you can use and get outside ofthat box 900 01:02:53,035 --> 01:02:56,905 and go back to certain key notes. 901 01:02:56,973 --> 01:03:00,408 He was really good at doing that. I always wanted to be able to do that. 902 01:03:00,476 --> 01:03:03,278 Jeff Beck is actually one ofthe masters of doing it, 903 01:03:03,346 --> 01:03:09,184 ofjust using unconventional phrasing but still getting a rock sound. 904 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,522 But he'd tune up while he was playing, 905 01:03:13,589 --> 01:03:16,224 which I've never seen anybody else do either. 906 01:03:16,292 --> 01:03:17,526 He'd go... 907 01:03:20,129 --> 01:03:22,230 Every time I listen to a Hendrix album, 908 01:03:22,298 --> 01:03:26,501 I always walk out ofthat room feeling like a warm puppy. 909 01:03:26,569 --> 01:03:28,537 It was very warm. 910 01:03:28,604 --> 01:03:34,643 He used the lead pickup on a Strat, the one that's all the way up, 911 01:03:34,710 --> 01:03:36,978 and he stayed that way most ofthe time. 912 01:03:37,046 --> 01:03:38,914 Actually it would be all the way down. 913 01:03:38,981 --> 01:03:42,984 A great tone, it was very round. 914 01:03:43,052 --> 01:03:48,690 Even when he was screaming, it still had some weight to it. 915 01:03:48,758 --> 01:03:53,228 Probably one ofthe biggest gifts that he had was he was insanely fluid. 916 01:03:54,130 --> 01:03:59,134 It was like Jimi flowed through the music. 917 01:03:59,202 --> 01:04:00,602 He never thought about it. 918 01:04:00,670 --> 01:04:03,438 It was back in the day when spontaneity was the thing, 919 01:04:03,506 --> 01:04:08,844 and you'd go up there and say what you had to say that given evening, 920 01:04:08,911 --> 01:04:12,914 as opposed to it being like a rehearsed, choreographed show every single night. 921 01:04:12,982 --> 01:04:15,116 So you'd go up there on the spur ofthe moment 922 01:04:15,184 --> 01:04:18,153 and play your songs the way that you felt them that day, 923 01:04:18,221 --> 01:04:22,224 and even then, he just had amazing tone and amazing control. 924 01:04:23,092 --> 01:04:26,828 As great a guitar player as Jimi was, he was also a phenomenal showman 925 01:04:26,896 --> 01:04:31,333 and knew how to rise to the occasion 926 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:35,871 when needed to get past the barriers to make a performance happen. 927 01:04:52,221 --> 01:04:55,824 When we're on stage, it's all the world. That's your whole life. 928 01:04:59,762 --> 01:05:03,164 All the flashy stuffthat you think about when you think of Jimi Hendrix, 929 01:05:03,232 --> 01:05:04,766 lighting the guitar on fire, 930 01:05:04,834 --> 01:05:07,569 playing with your teeth, playing behind your back, 931 01:05:07,637 --> 01:05:10,639 every one had been done by somebody else before Jimi Hendrix. 932 01:05:10,706 --> 01:05:14,776 He didn't invent any ofthem, but he managed to put them into this show 933 01:05:14,844 --> 01:05:16,778 and to play it to a different audience. 934 01:05:16,846 --> 01:05:19,180 To a degree, he was brilliant marketer. 935 01:05:19,248 --> 01:05:24,119 The idea ofthe show was a big deal in African-American culture and in R&B. 936 01:05:24,186 --> 01:05:26,621 It was not a deal in white rock. 937 01:05:26,689 --> 01:05:32,060 Jimi took the African-American R&B show and integrated it into rock. 938 01:05:32,128 --> 01:05:35,397 That was a touch that no one had been able to do before. 939 01:05:35,464 --> 01:05:37,399 Freddie King, Albert King, 940 01:05:37,466 --> 01:05:42,370 those two guys were guys that Jimi stole the big part oftheir routine. 941 01:05:42,438 --> 01:05:47,208 T-Bone Walker had done a lot of the stuffthat Jimi had done beforehand, 942 01:05:47,276 --> 01:05:52,113 but within the blues and in that circuit, nothing's patented. 943 01:05:52,181 --> 01:05:56,084 Every performer is constantly stealing and learning from other people. 944 01:05:56,152 --> 01:05:59,287 No one had patented the idea of playing the guitar with your teeth, 945 01:05:59,355 --> 01:06:00,255 and you couldn't, 946 01:06:00,323 --> 01:06:03,358 but when people thought of it, they soon thought of Jimi Hendrix 947 01:06:03,426 --> 01:06:05,560 and not the 20 guys who'd done it beforehand. 948 01:06:05,628 --> 01:06:08,730 So many musicians right now are playing 20 times better 949 01:06:08,798 --> 01:06:11,666 than any Chuck Berry or any Fats Domino. 950 01:06:11,734 --> 01:06:13,401 I'm not putting these people down. 951 01:06:13,469 --> 01:06:15,603 I'm just saying that music is better now. 952 01:06:15,671 --> 01:06:18,640 People don't know it. It's right in their faces. 953 01:06:18,708 --> 01:06:20,108 It's so much better. 954 01:06:20,176 --> 01:06:22,410 They have to have gimmicks and imagery to go by. 955 01:06:22,478 --> 01:06:25,513 Ifthey don't have these things, they know nothing about music. 956 01:06:25,581 --> 01:06:28,583 That's how some people think, which is a big fat drag sometimes. 957 01:06:28,651 --> 01:06:33,221 I've just actually remembered another show I did with Jimi Hendrix 958 01:06:33,289 --> 01:06:35,757 in Zurich in Switzerland. 959 01:06:35,825 --> 01:06:39,828 It was in one ofthose indoor cycling arenas. 960 01:06:39,895 --> 01:06:41,563 Three reasons I remember it. 961 01:06:41,630 --> 01:06:45,033 One is that when I was doing the show with John Mayall, 962 01:06:45,101 --> 01:06:49,471 somebody ran up the cycle track and stole one of John Mayall's harmonicas 963 01:06:49,538 --> 01:06:53,641 and started running around the cycle track with it. 964 01:06:53,709 --> 01:06:56,244 There were people chasing after him. 965 01:06:56,312 --> 01:07:01,416 I remember standing at the side of the stage for Jimi Hendrix's show. 966 01:07:01,484 --> 01:07:07,188 I was standing there with Jon Hiseman, John Mayall and a few other people. 967 01:07:07,256 --> 01:07:09,657 And it was phenomenal. 968 01:07:09,725 --> 01:07:17,265 The power and the intensity and his sense oftiming were just so good. 969 01:07:17,333 --> 01:07:20,735 He was a great performer as well. 970 01:07:20,803 --> 01:07:25,173 What a player. Just phenomenal stage presence. 971 01:07:25,241 --> 01:07:28,610 He was this completely wild thing on stage. 972 01:07:30,112 --> 01:07:35,583 Setting fire to his guitar and changing songs midway through, 973 01:07:35,651 --> 01:07:37,485 having sort of like no respect, 974 01:07:37,553 --> 01:07:43,024 but, like, ''I am the man and just look at me and listen to me.'' 975 01:07:43,092 --> 01:07:44,993 Then he'd come off stage 976 01:07:45,061 --> 01:07:51,132 and be this incredibly mild mannered, very well mannered... 977 01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:54,335 If a lady came in, he'd always stand up and he'd shake hands. 978 01:07:54,403 --> 01:07:55,770 Very polite, well spoken. 979 01:07:55,838 --> 01:07:58,206 He was this complete Jekyll and Hyde character. 980 01:07:58,274 --> 01:08:01,109 There was a sort of dichotomy 981 01:08:01,177 --> 01:08:06,247 between his off-stage persona and his on-stage persona. 982 01:08:06,315 --> 01:08:11,052 He was very extrovert and explosive on stage, 983 01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:17,192 but off stage, he was very quiet and gentle and almost shy in a way. 984 01:08:17,259 --> 01:08:20,929 He was incredibly well mannered off stage. He was really quiet. 985 01:08:20,996 --> 01:08:23,331 But on stage, he was this howling demon. 986 01:08:23,399 --> 01:08:26,701 Chicks used to like a bad guy a lot better in those days. 987 01:08:26,769 --> 01:08:30,371 There was certainly a persona that he put on. 988 01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:35,376 And I'm not saying that it was like Alice Cooper, 989 01:08:35,444 --> 01:08:40,248 but Alice is a good example of someone who had created a persona. 990 01:08:40,316 --> 01:08:43,485 He only felt comfortable when he was playing the guitar. 991 01:09:05,474 --> 01:09:09,444 He was trying to create this character, Jimi Hendrix, 992 01:09:09,512 --> 01:09:13,982 but he was trying to combine the lyricism of Bob Dylan 993 01:09:14,049 --> 01:09:16,951 with the show of the African-American R&B review, 994 01:09:17,019 --> 01:09:19,787 with the calypso look on stage. 995 01:09:19,855 --> 01:09:21,923 It was a mix ofthese disparate elements, 996 01:09:21,991 --> 01:09:25,093 and he did it and put it all together and made it magic. 997 01:09:25,161 --> 01:09:26,861 If you look at Jimi then 998 01:09:26,929 --> 01:09:30,665 and you go, ''This guy's wearing these pirate shirts, these puffy shirts, 999 01:09:30,733 --> 01:09:33,067 these slick things; that looks like calypso.'' 1000 01:09:33,135 --> 01:09:36,638 So, to a degree, Jimi takes all these different elements around him. 1001 01:09:36,705 --> 01:09:40,341 He combines the calypso shirt with what he calls Bob Dylan hair. 1002 01:09:40,409 --> 01:09:43,411 That's what Jimi was trying to do, give himself Bob Dylan hair. 1003 01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,880 He loved Dylan so much he wanted to look like Dylan. 1004 01:09:45,948 --> 01:09:48,049 He was African-American. He couldn't. 1005 01:09:48,117 --> 01:09:51,619 The later thing like Madonna, wearing all her clothes at the same time. 1006 01:09:51,687 --> 01:09:54,322 Sometimes it was like that, a bit. 1007 01:09:54,390 --> 01:09:56,991 He was really lanky, 1008 01:09:57,059 --> 01:10:01,296 and he moved like a spider on greased rollers. 1009 01:10:01,363 --> 01:10:03,631 He sort of made it all work. 1010 01:10:03,699 --> 01:10:05,767 He was a good-looking guy. 1011 01:10:05,834 --> 01:10:08,836 We used to call him the Bird. 1012 01:10:08,904 --> 01:10:12,740 And I said, ''Why?'' He said because he had such skinny legs. 1013 01:10:12,808 --> 01:10:16,311 You'd never seen anything like him for women either. 1014 01:10:16,378 --> 01:10:19,847 Women would just go fucking nuts the minute he walked on stage. 1015 01:10:19,915 --> 01:10:22,183 Boyfriend forgotten. 1016 01:10:22,251 --> 01:10:26,154 Down the front, bras on the stage, the whole thing. 1017 01:10:26,222 --> 01:10:31,559 He was just a snake for chicks, and it was anything remotely approaching... 1018 01:10:31,627 --> 01:10:34,162 It was like the Elvis thing: take a number and wait. 1019 01:10:34,230 --> 01:10:38,366 If I get up at seven o'clock in the morning and I'm really sleepy, 1020 01:10:38,434 --> 01:10:42,670 but then I open the door and see somebody that appeals to me, 1021 01:10:42,738 --> 01:10:45,306 or like, first of all, thinking of all... 1022 01:10:45,374 --> 01:10:48,209 First of all, I say, ''What in the world is she doing here?'' 1023 01:10:48,277 --> 01:10:50,545 ''What does she want?'' or something like that. 1024 01:10:50,613 --> 01:10:53,114 She says, ''Can I come in?'' 1025 01:10:53,182 --> 01:10:55,883 And I'm standing there and really digging her. 1026 01:10:55,951 --> 01:10:57,418 She's really nice-looking. 1027 01:10:57,486 --> 01:10:59,520 To tell you the honest-to-God truth, 1028 01:10:59,588 --> 01:11:03,324 she's about 19, 20, or beyond the age of so-and-so. 1029 01:11:03,392 --> 01:11:05,526 And so I'll probably stand there, 1030 01:11:05,594 --> 01:11:10,064 and then, they're inviting me to a nightclub maybe or something. 1031 01:11:10,132 --> 01:11:13,434 That's the truth. That's the way I am because I... 1032 01:11:14,803 --> 01:11:16,437 When it comes to that, you know... 1033 01:11:16,505 --> 01:11:20,375 The prime-most idea in all our heads then, 1034 01:11:20,442 --> 01:11:24,612 and I think I can speak for more than just myself at that time, 1035 01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:28,016 was that we just wanted to ball every chick in sight, basically. 1036 01:11:28,083 --> 01:11:31,519 That was the prime moving object. 1037 01:11:31,587 --> 01:11:36,691 We just used to have a continual party. 1038 01:11:48,771 --> 01:11:52,507 Like most human beings, he liked to have somebody, some company, 1039 01:11:52,574 --> 01:11:57,011 and he liked to have a girlfriend, somebody with him, 1040 01:11:57,079 --> 01:11:58,980 until he got his confidence. 1041 01:11:59,048 --> 01:12:02,517 It took a while for him to build up enough confidence. 1042 01:12:02,584 --> 01:12:06,454 He was quite shy and reserved. 1043 01:12:06,522 --> 01:12:09,157 He wasn't the sort of person that would walk into a place 1044 01:12:09,224 --> 01:12:13,594 and start making conversation with everybody who was around. 1045 01:12:14,430 --> 01:12:17,765 The new group with the Monkees is called the Jimi Hendrix Experience, 1046 01:12:18,233 --> 01:12:20,568 and theyjoin the Monkees' concert tour ofthe US. 1047 01:12:20,636 --> 01:12:23,871 They weren't in there in the beginning, just the past couple of days. 1048 01:12:23,939 --> 01:12:26,774 We're keen to bring you the Monkees in Detroit on July 29th. 1049 01:12:26,842 --> 01:12:29,410 The Jimi Hendrix Experience will be with the Monkees. 1050 01:12:29,478 --> 01:12:33,414 I was in New York doing a press junket I think for the Monkees. 1051 01:12:33,482 --> 01:12:37,985 Somebody said, ''You've got to come down to the Village, so-and-so's playing.'' 1052 01:12:38,053 --> 01:12:42,390 ''There's this guy playing tonight that plays guitar with his teeth.'' 1053 01:12:42,458 --> 01:12:46,527 That was what he was known as, the guy that plays guitar with his teeth. 1054 01:12:46,595 --> 01:12:50,832 I was like, ''Cool, man. That would be cool. Alright, yeah.'' 1055 01:12:50,899 --> 01:12:54,035 I just remember going down to the Village, ending up in this club, 1056 01:12:54,103 --> 01:12:58,005 sitting there, and sure enough there's this guy playing guitar with his teeth. 1057 01:12:58,073 --> 01:13:02,310 So, fast forward, '67 Monterey Pop Festival. 1058 01:13:02,378 --> 01:13:06,948 On come these three guys, and I look up and I go, 1059 01:13:07,015 --> 01:13:10,618 ''Wait! That's the guy that plays guitar with his teeth!'' 1060 01:13:10,686 --> 01:13:13,321 We happened to be looking for an opening act at the time. 1061 01:13:13,389 --> 01:13:18,059 I thought, ''Well, he's very theatrical. He'd be a great opening act!'' 1062 01:13:18,127 --> 01:13:20,395 Can you imagine, especially in the South? 1063 01:13:20,462 --> 01:13:23,097 One ofthe first dates was in the deep South somewhere, 1064 01:13:23,165 --> 01:13:25,466 and all of a sudden, this black guy comes on 1065 01:13:25,534 --> 01:13:29,804 dressed like a cross between Ronald McDonald and Charlie Manson. 1066 01:13:29,872 --> 01:13:31,372 And he's like... 1067 01:13:36,645 --> 01:13:38,346 I don't think it was so much the fans. 1068 01:13:38,414 --> 01:13:40,481 They wanted to see the Monkees. 1069 01:13:40,549 --> 01:13:45,853 But it was probably more the parents that were like, ''What? Jesus!'' 1070 01:13:45,921 --> 01:13:50,024 It was tough for him because nobody knew who he was, 1071 01:13:50,092 --> 01:13:53,161 certainly not in the Monkees' demographic, 1072 01:13:53,228 --> 01:13:59,100 which was essentially ten-year-old girls, 12-year-old girls. 1073 01:13:59,168 --> 01:14:01,002 But he ran into the same problem 1074 01:14:01,069 --> 01:14:05,506 that a lot of acts have opening for any other big act. 1075 01:14:05,574 --> 01:14:10,511 You've heard the classic stories of Guns N' Roses opening for the Stones, 1076 01:14:10,579 --> 01:14:13,247 and it's like, ''Hey, where's Mick?'' 1077 01:14:13,315 --> 01:14:15,483 Well, exactly the same thing happened, 1078 01:14:15,551 --> 01:14:18,419 and I tell the story on stage all the time. It's like... 1079 01:14:21,123 --> 01:14:24,659 ''We want Davy! We want the Monkees!'' 1080 01:14:26,428 --> 01:14:30,398 ''Micky, Mike and Monkees!'' 1081 01:14:30,466 --> 01:14:32,934 So I could see how that could frustrate anybody. 1082 01:14:33,001 --> 01:14:36,671 I mean, I'd like to think that maybe it helped a little bit. 1083 01:14:36,738 --> 01:14:38,072 But I have no doubt 1084 01:14:38,140 --> 01:14:42,376 that Jimi Hendrix would have done just fine without the Monkees. 1085 01:14:42,444 --> 01:14:47,448 That was a publicity stunt because they knew they'd fire him. 1086 01:14:47,516 --> 01:14:51,219 They couldn't keep Hendrix on the bill with the Monkees. It was impossible. 1087 01:14:51,286 --> 01:14:54,188 He'd just wipe them out every night, 1088 01:14:54,256 --> 01:14:56,824 or alienate the audience altogether. 1089 01:14:56,892 --> 01:15:01,329 So that was a plot to get him fired and get his name out in America. 1090 01:15:01,396 --> 01:15:04,632 I was hired by TigerBeat to go on the tour. 1091 01:15:05,234 --> 01:15:09,203 But they didn't hire me until about a week after the tour started. 1092 01:15:09,271 --> 01:15:12,240 So when I actuallyjoined the tour, the afternoon, 1093 01:15:12,307 --> 01:15:15,243 I walked into the Forest Hills Tennis Stadium 1094 01:15:15,310 --> 01:15:20,515 just as Jimi Hendrix was exiting the stage for the last time. 1095 01:15:20,582 --> 01:15:24,318 So I didn't actually get to see him play any ofthose concerts. 1096 01:15:24,386 --> 01:15:28,322 However, we all went back to the Warwick Hotel in New York City 1097 01:15:28,390 --> 01:15:31,826 where the Monkees had the whole floor to themselves and their entourage 1098 01:15:31,894 --> 01:15:33,561 and security at the elevators, 1099 01:15:33,629 --> 01:15:36,797 because they were as popular as the Beatles at that point. 1100 01:15:36,865 --> 01:15:39,700 So we were all in the hallway and Jimi Hendrix was there 1101 01:15:39,768 --> 01:15:41,636 and Micky and Davy and all my friends, 1102 01:15:41,703 --> 01:15:46,440 and somebody was passing out these little white pills. 1103 01:15:46,508 --> 01:15:49,677 This was the '60s, you know... 1104 01:15:49,745 --> 01:15:52,980 We were free, and so I took one, everybody took one. 1105 01:15:53,048 --> 01:15:57,518 It was psilocybin, which is quite a powerful psychedelic. 1106 01:15:59,187 --> 01:16:02,189 We all went off on our ways into the evening, 1107 01:16:02,257 --> 01:16:04,926 and I went down to Greenwich Village 1108 01:16:04,993 --> 01:16:08,763 where I had lived for a while, and knew my way around, 1109 01:16:08,830 --> 01:16:11,699 and I went into a little hamburger place there, 1110 01:16:11,767 --> 01:16:14,201 right near Bleecker and MacDougal. 1111 01:16:14,269 --> 01:16:16,971 I'm sitting there trying to get it together to order 1112 01:16:17,039 --> 01:16:19,974 and I look up and in the doorway comes Jimi Hendrix. 1113 01:16:20,042 --> 01:16:22,743 And he sees me sitting across the room 1114 01:16:22,811 --> 01:16:25,580 and he comes and he sits down next to me. 1115 01:16:25,647 --> 01:16:29,083 So we're both like little boys with these big wide eyes, 1116 01:16:29,151 --> 01:16:30,585 watching these people, 1117 01:16:30,652 --> 01:16:33,788 He would say, ''What is that guy doing?'' 1118 01:16:33,855 --> 01:16:37,058 And I would say, ''I think he's eating a hamburger.'' 1119 01:16:37,125 --> 01:16:39,961 And then you'd see some guy like... 1120 01:16:40,028 --> 01:16:41,562 It was like being at the zoo. 1121 01:16:41,630 --> 01:16:45,633 We were like two little boys at the zoo at feeding time. 1122 01:16:45,701 --> 01:16:50,171 He had some kind of capacity to take more drugs than anybody else. 1123 01:16:50,238 --> 01:16:55,610 People tell stories of being backstage where everyone else took half an acid, 1124 01:16:55,677 --> 01:16:58,546 he took 20 and still managed to play the way that he did. 1125 01:16:58,614 --> 01:17:02,583 It probably helped that he was always cataclysmically stoned. 1126 01:17:04,252 --> 01:17:09,256 We all were then. It was what everybody was doing: acid, lots of acid. 1127 01:17:09,324 --> 01:17:13,661 If it showed any signs ofwearing off, you'd take another five. 1128 01:17:13,729 --> 01:17:16,530 In the end, we were eating them like Dolly Mixtures. 1129 01:17:16,598 --> 01:17:20,468 Because they said that acid doesn't work two days in a row. 1130 01:17:20,535 --> 01:17:22,737 We found out if you double the dose, it does. 1131 01:17:23,705 --> 01:17:25,406 So we were doing all that stuff. 1132 01:17:25,474 --> 01:17:28,142 That's not what made Jimi Hendrix a great guitar player. 1133 01:17:28,210 --> 01:17:30,411 I don't think drugs had anything to do with it, 1134 01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:32,980 but I think some of the experimenting that he did 1135 01:17:33,048 --> 01:17:38,019 and some ofthe crazy sort of sonic things that he got away with 1136 01:17:38,086 --> 01:17:39,687 had a lot to do with drugs. 1137 01:17:40,789 --> 01:17:43,090 Made it a little bit more colourful. 1138 01:17:43,992 --> 01:17:46,994 It affected everything. Acid affected you completely. 1139 01:17:47,062 --> 01:17:51,065 It wasn'tjust get high and doze off. 1140 01:17:51,133 --> 01:17:56,070 I mean, acid was a roller coaster. 1141 01:17:59,107 --> 01:18:03,444 The original pure stuff was a great drug. 1142 01:18:03,512 --> 01:18:08,549 But it sent a lot of people to the basket-weaving factory. 1143 01:18:09,618 --> 01:18:15,656 He felt that drugs opened up his mind to colours, to a variety of other things. 1144 01:18:15,724 --> 01:18:19,326 He used colours, colours corresponding with notes. 1145 01:18:19,394 --> 01:18:22,897 He developed this thing called energy-sound-colour-dynamics 1146 01:18:22,964 --> 01:18:25,566 that he thought that... 1147 01:18:25,634 --> 01:18:30,004 See, he wanted to hold music but he never could, 1148 01:18:30,072 --> 01:18:33,274 because music is a spirit, music has no body. 1149 01:18:33,341 --> 01:18:36,644 So that's why he wrote that song that music drops through my fingers. 1150 01:18:36,712 --> 01:18:41,482 Soft music is blues and greens and purples. 1151 01:18:41,550 --> 01:18:45,252 Hard rock 'n' roll like Foxy Lady is like red and orange. 1152 01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:50,791 Well, that's kind of a contemporary view. 1153 01:18:50,859 --> 01:18:52,526 You had to be there for that one. 1154 01:18:52,594 --> 01:18:57,832 He simply couldn't have accomplished all he did in the four years of fame. 1155 01:18:57,899 --> 01:19:01,836 He played over 600 concerts, he recorded four albums, 1156 01:19:01,903 --> 01:19:04,939 he recorded countless other things that were never released. 1157 01:19:05,006 --> 01:19:08,442 He couldn't have done that all if he was as fucked up as everybody says. 1158 01:19:10,011 --> 01:19:12,046 Noel was getting more and more frustrated 1159 01:19:12,114 --> 01:19:16,117 by the fact that he was not playing the guitar, his favourite instrument. 1160 01:19:16,184 --> 01:19:18,319 They were seeing less and less of each other. 1161 01:19:18,386 --> 01:19:21,622 Jimi ended up playing many ofthe bass parts in the studio 1162 01:19:21,690 --> 01:19:23,257 on Electric Ladyland. 1163 01:19:23,325 --> 01:19:27,194 Jimi was also toying with the idea of having different bass players 1164 01:19:27,262 --> 01:19:29,663 and wanted to form his own band. 1165 01:19:29,731 --> 01:19:32,433 He flew his army buddy, Billy Cox, up to New York 1166 01:19:32,501 --> 01:19:36,370 and started recording and rehearsing with him as a replacement for Noel. 1167 01:19:43,879 --> 01:19:49,250 When I moved to Britain, and started making the solo albums, 1168 01:19:49,317 --> 01:19:52,052 and I started it and Jimi was around. 1169 01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:57,992 He ended playing on a song from that album called Old Times Good Times, 1170 01:19:58,059 --> 01:20:00,361 and then he shocked the hell out of me by saying, 1171 01:20:00,428 --> 01:20:02,763 ''That should be the first one for our record.'' 1172 01:20:02,831 --> 01:20:08,435 We fit together really nicely because I had a good, strong sense of rhythm. 1173 01:20:08,503 --> 01:20:11,705 I would have put down the guitar and picked up the bass for him. 1174 01:20:11,773 --> 01:20:13,274 He liked the way I played bass. 1175 01:20:13,341 --> 01:20:16,143 That was the first I heard that we were going to have a band. 1176 01:20:16,211 --> 01:20:23,184 At the time, there was a little rift going on within the Experience, 1177 01:20:23,251 --> 01:20:26,120 and there was talk of Noel leaving. 1178 01:20:26,188 --> 01:20:29,490 And Jimi and I had actually talked about me joining on bass. 1179 01:20:31,026 --> 01:20:34,295 There's some tracks hidden somewhere 1180 01:20:34,362 --> 01:20:39,033 of me playing bass and sitar and stuffthat we did together. 1181 01:20:39,100 --> 01:20:43,504 But Jimi played bass on pretty much all of Electric Ladylaid. 1182 01:20:43,572 --> 01:20:47,408 But Noel really hated playing bass. He wanted to be a guitar player. 1183 01:20:47,475 --> 01:20:50,444 ''That fucking Hendrix, stealing all the limelight.'' 1184 01:20:50,512 --> 01:20:53,814 ''I was the best guitarist in Kent, you know,'' he'd say. 1185 01:20:54,983 --> 01:20:59,286 Imagine. But then Noel started making demands. 1186 01:20:59,354 --> 01:21:03,290 He brought his own band on the tour in '69. 1187 01:21:03,358 --> 01:21:07,828 Fat Mattress, they were called. What an inspiring name. 1188 01:21:08,697 --> 01:21:11,031 They had two ofthe Flowerpot Men, 1189 01:21:11,099 --> 01:21:14,401 a British band who were cashing in on the flower thing. 1190 01:21:14,469 --> 01:21:17,972 And they were really, really awful. 1191 01:21:18,039 --> 01:21:19,673 I'm afraid so. 1192 01:21:20,976 --> 01:21:24,778 That Little Miss Strange, that song on Electric Laidlady, 1193 01:21:24,846 --> 01:21:28,115 that's Noel's first composition, 1194 01:21:28,183 --> 01:21:31,085 which will give you a good idea of his later compositions. 1195 01:21:31,152 --> 01:21:34,421 Mitchell was a fantastic drummer. He was like Keith Moon. 1196 01:21:34,489 --> 01:21:35,723 They wouldn't have fit, 1197 01:21:35,790 --> 01:21:41,161 except there's certain people, like Moon fitted with Entwistle and Townshend, 1198 01:21:41,229 --> 01:21:43,998 and Mitch fitted with Hendrix perfectly, 1199 01:21:44,065 --> 01:21:46,934 because he could fill in or drop it down. 1200 01:21:47,002 --> 01:21:50,838 He was a great drummer. A jazz drummer. 1201 01:21:51,306 --> 01:21:53,874 Jimi's problems seemed to get worse. 1202 01:21:53,942 --> 01:21:55,576 The Experience was breaking up, 1203 01:21:55,644 --> 01:21:58,579 he was arrested for drug possession at the Toronto Airport, 1204 01:21:58,647 --> 01:22:01,815 and his loyal girlfriend was leaving him for good. 1205 01:22:01,883 --> 01:22:05,986 There were all these hangers-on that started to fly into London, 1206 01:22:06,054 --> 01:22:09,123 and just turn up at the door and invite themselves in, 1207 01:22:09,190 --> 01:22:12,126 or Jimi would invite them in and we couldn't shake them off. 1208 01:22:12,193 --> 01:22:15,195 And everyone was always on him and wanting something, 1209 01:22:15,263 --> 01:22:19,199 and he was constantly being followed around by people. 1210 01:22:19,267 --> 01:22:21,368 And he would come in the middle ofthe night, 1211 01:22:21,436 --> 01:22:29,243 and ditch his crowd and come and talk to me and Dan about life in general a lot. 1212 01:22:29,311 --> 01:22:35,816 I went to New York and we stayed in this suite. 1213 01:22:35,884 --> 01:22:37,017 And there was this guy 1214 01:22:37,085 --> 01:22:41,889 and he had a sports bag which he put down on the floor, 1215 01:22:41,957 --> 01:22:44,291 and it gaped open at the top. 1216 01:22:44,359 --> 01:22:51,832 I looked down and there was a gun on the top of all these bags of powder. 1217 01:22:54,102 --> 01:22:55,703 Jimi headlined Woodstock 1218 01:22:55,770 --> 01:22:59,039 with a hired five-piece band named Gypsy Sun and Rainbows 1219 01:22:59,107 --> 01:23:01,141 which he threw together without Noel. 1220 01:23:01,209 --> 01:23:05,346 This band didn't last long. They only played a couple more gigs together. 1221 01:23:10,652 --> 01:23:12,386 Along with Billy Cox, 1222 01:23:12,454 --> 01:23:16,023 Jimi lured in another one of his friends, drummer Buddy Miles, 1223 01:23:16,091 --> 01:23:18,092 and formed the Band of Gypsys. 1224 01:23:18,159 --> 01:23:20,594 But Jimi's performances were starting to slip 1225 01:23:20,662 --> 01:23:23,697 and Buddy Miles claimed that his manager, Michael Jeffery, 1226 01:23:23,765 --> 01:23:27,368 dosed Hendrix with LSD to sabotage the band 1227 01:23:27,435 --> 01:23:29,737 and bring back the Experience line-up. 1228 01:24:11,279 --> 01:24:13,480 Let me tell you something about Jimi. 1229 01:24:13,548 --> 01:24:15,682 He used to call us up when he was playing. 1230 01:24:15,750 --> 01:24:21,321 Jimmy James and the Blue Flames, or Maurice James. 1231 01:24:21,389 --> 01:24:25,859 He had these names that he would make up and he would want to do it. 1232 01:24:25,927 --> 01:24:27,895 That's the happiest time he ever was. 1233 01:24:27,962 --> 01:24:33,801 He'd call up laughing, saying, ''Leon, I got a car, I got a '57 Plymouth.'' 1234 01:24:33,868 --> 01:24:37,838 ''I have to turn it a hundred times before it turns.'' 1235 01:24:37,906 --> 01:24:41,842 ''It don't run good, but I'm rolling in Manhattan.'' 1236 01:24:41,910 --> 01:24:44,545 ''I got an apartment, I got a girlfriend.'' 1237 01:24:44,612 --> 01:24:48,048 He was making $100 a week. He said, ''I'm making $100 a week, Leon!'' 1238 01:24:48,116 --> 01:24:50,484 ''And I'm happy.'' 1239 01:24:50,552 --> 01:24:55,122 But when he got famous, thatjoy was never there again. 1240 01:24:55,190 --> 01:24:57,591 He didn't like being a star much. 1241 01:24:57,659 --> 01:25:02,162 Because at the Isle of Wight, which I was at, that last show, 1242 01:25:02,230 --> 01:25:04,164 he was really, really bad. 1243 01:25:04,232 --> 01:25:07,234 He wouldn't do his hits for halfthe show. 1244 01:25:07,302 --> 01:25:12,406 He was doing all his weird squiggly stuff he'd been doing at home 1245 01:25:12,474 --> 01:25:14,174 in the basement recording studio. 1246 01:25:14,242 --> 01:25:17,311 I think he went offthe rails in about mid-'68. 1247 01:25:17,378 --> 01:25:19,580 He started listening to people around him. 1248 01:25:19,647 --> 01:25:22,015 ''Everything's great, do what you like.'' 1249 01:25:22,083 --> 01:25:23,951 You couldn't order Jimi about, 1250 01:25:24,018 --> 01:25:27,354 and that was one ofthe problems that his management had with him. 1251 01:25:27,422 --> 01:25:29,823 Jimi was going to do what he wanted to do. 1252 01:25:29,891 --> 01:25:34,328 The biggest problem in life from a musical point ofview 1253 01:25:34,395 --> 01:25:36,997 is that he wanted to stay in the studio and record, 1254 01:25:37,065 --> 01:25:40,968 and his business people were constantly trying to push him on the road 1255 01:25:41,035 --> 01:25:42,903 to earn more money. 1256 01:25:42,971 --> 01:25:44,905 They were spending a lot of money. 1257 01:25:44,973 --> 01:25:47,941 They took a lot of money from Warner Brothers to build a studio, 1258 01:25:48,009 --> 01:25:52,279 and they owed money back, and so there were a lot of financial problems. 1259 01:25:52,347 --> 01:25:57,184 And the only way to solve those problems was to keep Jimi out on the road 1260 01:25:57,252 --> 01:26:00,220 earning, you know, the cash. 1261 01:26:00,288 --> 01:26:03,056 I didn't care for Michael Jeffery, for one thing, 1262 01:26:03,124 --> 01:26:06,293 because I heard that he was giving Jimi dope. 1263 01:26:06,361 --> 01:26:09,496 That's what I had heard. I don't know how that was. 1264 01:26:09,564 --> 01:26:13,600 Next thing I know, a few months later or years, he was dead. 1265 01:26:13,668 --> 01:26:18,071 Jim Morrison said when the music stops, turn out the lights, 1266 01:26:18,139 --> 01:26:21,608 and that's what kind of happened backstage. 1267 01:26:21,676 --> 01:26:24,545 Putting the guitar into the case 1268 01:26:24,612 --> 01:26:27,848 and a couple of girls popped their heads round the corner, 1269 01:26:27,916 --> 01:26:31,151 ''Come on, man, let's go.'' 1270 01:26:31,219 --> 01:26:33,320 ''See you, Jimi.'' ''Yeah, bye.'' 1271 01:26:33,388 --> 01:26:38,058 He was dead two nights later. He was gone. 1272 01:26:38,126 --> 01:26:44,631 Jimi took me to the airport in a taxi, said goodbye. 1273 01:26:46,467 --> 01:26:50,704 I went back to New York, went to sleep, 1274 01:26:50,772 --> 01:26:53,340 and woke up in the morning 1275 01:26:53,408 --> 01:26:56,877 and got a telephone call that he had died on that Friday. 1276 01:27:04,619 --> 01:27:07,588 He died because ofthe incompetence ofthe ambulance crew 1277 01:27:07,655 --> 01:27:09,289 that was sent to save him. 1278 01:27:09,357 --> 01:27:11,692 Because he was alive when he got to the hospital, 1279 01:27:11,759 --> 01:27:14,194 against every fact that you get told. 1280 01:27:14,262 --> 01:27:17,030 He was still alive when he got to St Mary Abbots. 1281 01:27:17,098 --> 01:27:20,500 He died while they were trying to revive him. 1282 01:27:20,568 --> 01:27:25,906 I received a phone call. That's how I found out. 1283 01:27:25,974 --> 01:27:32,613 And it was sort of, I don't know, one ofthose panic calls. 1284 01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:35,782 ''Should I do anything? What should I do?'' 1285 01:27:35,850 --> 01:27:38,685 So I didn't advise as such. 1286 01:27:38,753 --> 01:27:41,088 I just took in the information 1287 01:27:41,155 --> 01:27:47,661 and said, ''Well, your only bet is to let people know who need to know.'' 1288 01:27:47,729 --> 01:27:51,765 If he's not with us any more, that's it. 1289 01:27:52,700 --> 01:27:57,204 I had a phone call from Madeline Bell, 1290 01:27:57,272 --> 01:28:01,975 and she said, ''Are you sitting down?'' 1291 01:28:02,043 --> 01:28:04,645 I said, ''No. What's the matter?'' 1292 01:28:04,712 --> 01:28:07,247 She said, ''Get a chair.'' 1293 01:28:07,315 --> 01:28:10,117 I said, ''Stop it, Madeline. What's the matter?'' 1294 01:28:10,184 --> 01:28:12,019 She said, ''Get a chair, get a chair.'' 1295 01:28:12,086 --> 01:28:14,221 So I got a chair. I said, ''I've got a chair.'' 1296 01:28:14,289 --> 01:28:15,989 She said, ''Are you sitting down?'' 1297 01:28:16,057 --> 01:28:18,258 I said, ''Yes.'' She said, ''Jimi's dead.'' 1298 01:28:18,326 --> 01:28:23,063 I got the telephone call. Why I got the telephone call, I'll never know. 1299 01:28:25,066 --> 01:28:28,902 And I went over to the house and I found this note by the bedside 1300 01:28:28,970 --> 01:28:30,604 which he'd obviously written, 1301 01:28:30,672 --> 01:28:34,775 and to me, it was obviously like a suicide note. 1302 01:28:34,842 --> 01:28:36,777 It was a farewell note. 1303 01:28:36,844 --> 01:28:43,850 It finished with, ''The story of life is quicker than the winking of an eye.'' 1304 01:28:43,918 --> 01:28:48,822 ''The story of life is hello, goodbye, until we meet again.'' 1305 01:28:48,890 --> 01:28:52,392 And I looked at this thing and went ''wow''. 1306 01:28:52,460 --> 01:28:55,095 I folded it up, put it in my pocket and went home. 1307 01:28:55,163 --> 01:28:58,765 I copied it and then I gave it to his girlfriend, 1308 01:28:58,833 --> 01:29:02,169 because I thought it was her property, 1309 01:29:02,236 --> 01:29:04,971 because I thought they were a real item. 1310 01:29:05,039 --> 01:29:07,808 I didn't realise until later that they'd just met. 1311 01:29:07,875 --> 01:29:09,776 That stupid Monika. 1312 01:29:09,844 --> 01:29:15,649 Of course, the way she tells it is that he was drinking wine and stuff 1313 01:29:15,717 --> 01:29:18,652 and they had had an argument and they had been fighting 1314 01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:22,022 and this and that and the other, and so when they went home, 1315 01:29:22,090 --> 01:29:25,058 he couldn't sleep, he had a headache, he was feeling bad, 1316 01:29:25,126 --> 01:29:26,727 but he had stomach problems. 1317 01:29:26,794 --> 01:29:30,997 ''He seems to be vomiting and he's lying on his back.'' 1318 01:29:31,065 --> 01:29:33,567 ''I'll just leave him, see if he wakes up soon.'' 1319 01:29:33,634 --> 01:29:37,637 If she'd just turned him over on his side or something. 1320 01:29:37,705 --> 01:29:40,474 But she says she didn't know that. 1321 01:29:40,541 --> 01:29:44,044 Great. Brilliant. 1322 01:29:44,112 --> 01:29:49,549 It wasn't until years later that I met a friend in New York 1323 01:29:49,617 --> 01:29:51,985 who was doing a documentary on Jimi 1324 01:29:52,053 --> 01:29:57,224 and he had tons of interviews with Monika Dannemann, 1325 01:29:57,291 --> 01:30:00,394 and I said, ''I'll do an interview for you 1326 01:30:00,461 --> 01:30:03,430 if you let me look at the Monika Dannemann interviews.'' 1327 01:30:03,498 --> 01:30:05,198 So I watched all these interviews 1328 01:30:05,266 --> 01:30:08,502 and every time she talked on camera, it was a different story. 1329 01:30:08,569 --> 01:30:13,507 Her storyjust did notjive with what I saw on the ground 1330 01:30:13,574 --> 01:30:16,843 when I was there in his room when they were carting out the body, 1331 01:30:16,911 --> 01:30:20,947 and the coroner's report and what everybody else said. 1332 01:30:21,015 --> 01:30:25,986 Unfortunately, it seemed that he'd died 1333 01:30:26,053 --> 01:30:31,892 due to lack of interest from anybody. Nobody was there. 1334 01:30:31,959 --> 01:30:35,929 Two days later, I was supposed to be auditioning for bass player. 1335 01:30:35,997 --> 01:30:38,031 Which really pissed me off. 1336 01:30:40,067 --> 01:30:43,003 Inconsiderate bastard, dying when it was my audition. 1337 01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:47,240 I heard the news and I cried. 1338 01:30:47,308 --> 01:30:50,577 And I just thought to myself, ''We lost a great one.'' 1339 01:30:50,645 --> 01:30:53,480 American blues guitarist Johnny Winter said, 1340 01:30:53,548 --> 01:30:57,083 ''When I saw him backstage before the show, it gave me the chills.'' 1341 01:30:57,151 --> 01:30:59,553 ''It was the most horrible thing I'd ever seen.'' 1342 01:30:59,620 --> 01:31:01,655 ''He came in with this entourage of people 1343 01:31:01,722 --> 01:31:03,557 and it was like he was already dead.'' 1344 01:31:03,624 --> 01:31:06,460 ''He came in with his head down and sat on the couch alone 1345 01:31:06,527 --> 01:31:08,028 and put his head in his hands.'' 1346 01:31:08,095 --> 01:31:11,465 The night that he died, 1347 01:31:11,532 --> 01:31:16,336 I was supposed to meet him at the Lyceum to see Sly Stone play, 1348 01:31:16,404 --> 01:31:19,439 and I'd brought with me a left-handed Stratocaster. 1349 01:31:19,507 --> 01:31:21,341 I'd just found it. 1350 01:31:21,409 --> 01:31:23,743 I think I bought it at Orange Music. 1351 01:31:23,811 --> 01:31:27,481 I'd never seen one before and I was going to give it to him. 1352 01:31:27,548 --> 01:31:31,351 And he was in a box over there and I was in a box over here. 1353 01:31:31,419 --> 01:31:36,056 I could see him, but we never got together, 1354 01:31:36,123 --> 01:31:37,991 and the next day, whack, he was gone, 1355 01:31:38,059 --> 01:31:40,827 and I was left with that left-handed Stratocaster. 1356 01:31:50,438 --> 01:31:54,641 To say that I wasn't surprised is really an overstatement. 1357 01:31:54,709 --> 01:31:57,244 It's not right at all. 1358 01:31:57,311 --> 01:31:59,212 Unfair. 1359 01:32:00,081 --> 01:32:02,349 Yeah, I thought it was pretty unfair. 1360 01:33:20,661 --> 01:33:23,163 And the aftermath is really sad. 1361 01:33:23,230 --> 01:33:30,704 Not when you know and understand that Jimi was very much part Indian 1362 01:33:30,771 --> 01:33:36,810 in his genes, in his DNA, and in his head, certainly. 1363 01:33:36,877 --> 01:33:38,945 They've moved his body twice. 1364 01:33:39,013 --> 01:33:42,749 I mean, you don't do that to an Indian. This is sacred stuff. 1365 01:33:42,817 --> 01:33:48,755 You can't hold down the coat tails of a whirlwind, as it were. 1366 01:33:50,758 --> 01:33:55,061 You can hang on for a while, but you can't tame that. 1367 01:33:56,931 --> 01:33:59,766 It's taken me years to get over it, 1368 01:33:59,834 --> 01:34:03,670 and I don't think that, still, there's a day goes by 1369 01:34:03,738 --> 01:34:05,805 where Hendrix doesn't enter my life. 1370 01:34:58,325 --> 01:35:01,628 It would have been interesting to know where Hendrix was going to go 1371 01:35:01,696 --> 01:35:03,763 if he hadn't passed away when he did. 1372 01:35:03,831 --> 01:35:07,167 Well, he never would have been a quiet, retired old man. 1373 01:35:07,234 --> 01:35:09,269 I can tell you what he wouldn't do, 1374 01:35:09,336 --> 01:35:12,806 but what he would do is probably too difficult to say 1375 01:35:12,873 --> 01:35:16,776 because I don't think he ever knew what he would have done himself. 1376 01:35:16,844 --> 01:35:21,681 I mean, I think he would have continued to explore and experiment 1377 01:35:21,749 --> 01:35:27,587 and make all kinds of discoveries. 1378 01:35:27,655 --> 01:35:30,790 Jimi was a very unique musician. 1379 01:35:30,858 --> 01:35:34,060 Of course, you know, that goes without saying, 1380 01:35:34,128 --> 01:35:36,696 but he was also a very unique person. 1381 01:35:37,031 --> 01:35:38,765 For him, there were no boundaries. 1382 01:35:38,833 --> 01:35:41,601 He got this electric orchestra into his head 1383 01:35:41,669 --> 01:35:45,972 that he was going to do with 20 guitar players or something, five drummers. 1384 01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:48,475 It would have been fucking horrendous. 1385 01:35:48,542 --> 01:35:52,712 Imagine that many guitar players trying to figure out who does the solo. 1386 01:35:52,780 --> 01:35:54,914 The big things that Hendrix was trying to do 1387 01:35:54,982 --> 01:35:58,418 was he'd established a certain thing and he'd done it, 1388 01:35:58,486 --> 01:36:02,655 and before he died, what he was grasping for was to go somewhere else, 1389 01:36:02,723 --> 01:36:07,427 and he was frustrated in that he was famous 1390 01:36:07,495 --> 01:36:10,663 and accepted for doing more or less one thing. 1391 01:36:10,731 --> 01:36:14,667 And he wanted to break out ofthat and reach another plateau, 1392 01:36:14,735 --> 01:36:17,737 and people weren't accepting that. 1393 01:36:17,805 --> 01:36:19,405 He wanted to write symphonies. 1394 01:36:19,473 --> 01:36:23,143 He said, ''Leon, I want a thousand violins over here 1395 01:36:23,210 --> 01:36:27,380 and a thousand cellos and French horns.'' 1396 01:36:27,448 --> 01:36:29,816 He wanted to write like Beethoven. 1397 01:36:29,884 --> 01:36:33,353 He wanted to write symphony music and he wanted to be a conductor 1398 01:36:33,420 --> 01:36:36,589 and they wouldn't allow him. They said, ''You've lost your mind!'' 1399 01:36:36,657 --> 01:36:39,559 ''You need to play Purple Haze and Foxy Ladyto get paid!'' 1400 01:36:39,627 --> 01:36:42,028 And Jimi said he hated to play Purple Haze. 1401 01:36:42,096 --> 01:36:44,297 We've been together for about two solid years, 1402 01:36:44,365 --> 01:36:47,267 and we've been playing Purple haze, The Wind Cries Mary, 1403 01:36:47,334 --> 01:36:50,370 hey Joe, Foxy Lady, we've been playing all these songs, 1404 01:36:50,437 --> 01:36:52,005 which I think are groovy songs, 1405 01:36:52,072 --> 01:36:54,474 but we've been playing these songs for two years, 1406 01:36:54,542 --> 01:36:56,576 so we started improvising here and there. 1407 01:36:56,644 --> 01:36:59,312 There's other things we want to turn on to the people. 1408 01:36:59,380 --> 01:37:02,282 As long as they're aware that we're trying to be a music group. 1409 01:37:02,349 --> 01:37:07,520 And I didn't realise until I saw Dick Cavett's show a few years later 1410 01:37:07,588 --> 01:37:13,426 when he was out ofthe Experience, it was all over, that he had actually... 1411 01:37:13,494 --> 01:37:18,131 Dick Cavett says, ''Well, Jimi, what are you going to do now?'' 1412 01:37:18,199 --> 01:37:22,168 And Jimi goes, ''Well, man, I'm going back to my roots 1413 01:37:22,236 --> 01:37:24,070 and I'm going to play the blues.'' 1414 01:37:24,138 --> 01:37:25,805 20 times in Jimi's career, 1415 01:37:25,873 --> 01:37:28,541 whenever anybody said, ''What do you want to do next?'' 1416 01:37:28,609 --> 01:37:30,443 he said, ''I want a big band.'' 1417 01:37:30,511 --> 01:37:32,278 In some ways he only got it... 1418 01:37:32,346 --> 01:37:36,649 People remember that when Jimi Hendrix was on stage at Woodstock, 1419 01:37:36,717 --> 01:37:38,918 there were half a dozen other players with him. 1420 01:37:38,986 --> 01:37:43,056 It wasn't the Jimi Hendrix Experience at that point with two other players. 1421 01:37:43,123 --> 01:37:47,560 He kept making a bigger and bigger band, but that big band was not embraced. 1422 01:37:48,896 --> 01:37:52,131 With the Band of Gypsys, he wanted that to be a big band again 1423 01:37:52,199 --> 01:37:55,101 and he ended up with a very small band, of course, once again. 1424 01:37:55,169 --> 01:37:58,972 I think he would have really screwed up, actually. 1425 01:37:59,039 --> 01:38:00,940 He was on his way to that when he died. 1426 01:38:01,008 --> 01:38:05,178 He had all these plans, grandiose orchestras of guitars and things. 1427 01:38:05,246 --> 01:38:09,349 I mean, I don't know. I don't think it would have worked 1428 01:38:09,416 --> 01:38:12,685 and I don't think people would have wanted to hear it either. 1429 01:38:12,753 --> 01:38:15,154 He would have gone into fusion. 1430 01:38:17,825 --> 01:38:22,862 But it still would have been R&B blues-rooted music. 1431 01:38:22,930 --> 01:38:24,731 Jimi, to me, was a searcher. 1432 01:38:24,798 --> 01:38:28,167 He was always looking to, like, do something different, 1433 01:38:28,235 --> 01:38:33,106 even though whatever he was doing at the time was working. 1434 01:38:33,173 --> 01:38:36,976 It still sounds great. It still... It's Hendrix. 1435 01:38:37,044 --> 01:38:41,581 It's, you know... It holds up. 1436 01:38:41,649 --> 01:38:46,386 Nobody's topped him. It's just so... You know, he's still the guy. 1437 01:38:46,453 --> 01:38:47,887 He is the greatest guitarist 1438 01:38:47,955 --> 01:38:52,825 because he was able to make those sounds that guitar players emulate to this day. 1439 01:38:52,893 --> 01:38:59,265 You go to any guitar player now and who do they listen to? Jimi Hendrix. 1440 01:38:59,333 --> 01:39:05,805 And to this day, Sony, all these fantastic Microsoft companies, 1441 01:39:05,873 --> 01:39:08,808 still cannot produce Jimi's sound. 1442 01:39:08,876 --> 01:39:11,210 But you can buy it. 1443 01:39:11,278 --> 01:39:14,647 You can buy a wah-wah pedal and say, ''Jimi Hendrix, right on it!'' 1444 01:39:14,715 --> 01:39:19,686 But, listen, I bought so many wah-wah pedals searching for Jimi's shit, 1445 01:39:19,753 --> 01:39:21,387 it don't work good. 1446 01:39:21,455 --> 01:39:26,626 It's the individual person who is spinning those notes 1447 01:39:26,694 --> 01:39:28,094 and plucking that guitar. 1448 01:39:28,162 --> 01:39:32,699 And they can never duplicate that because Jimi's gone. 1449 01:39:32,766 --> 01:39:36,169 To me, his style was so indicative of his personality 1450 01:39:36,236 --> 01:39:40,506 because him and the guitar, probably more than any ofthe rock musicians 1451 01:39:40,574 --> 01:39:45,378 that I heard that came from that same period, were sort of one. 1452 01:39:45,446 --> 01:39:50,550 The guitar was just a real extension ofthe man himself. 1453 01:40:31,759 --> 01:40:34,660 First of all, he was egoless, 1454 01:40:34,728 --> 01:40:38,498 which made him into somebody special as far as I was concerned, 1455 01:40:38,565 --> 01:40:42,902 because all my life, I have been working with, quote, superstars, 1456 01:40:42,970 --> 01:40:46,172 and successful musicians. 1457 01:40:48,909 --> 01:40:52,045 He wasn't challenged by competition. 1458 01:40:52,112 --> 01:40:55,214 The biggest frustration for most musicians 1459 01:40:55,282 --> 01:40:57,150 is their head works faster 1460 01:40:57,217 --> 01:41:00,653 than their physical capacity to play their instrument. 1461 01:41:00,721 --> 01:41:03,723 I mean, that's the big frustration. 1462 01:41:03,791 --> 01:41:10,029 Your head is moving so fast, and your hands just can't deal with it. 1463 01:41:10,097 --> 01:41:11,564 Jimi never had that problem. 1464 01:41:11,632 --> 01:41:15,334 Jimi could play everything, anything he could think of, 1465 01:41:15,402 --> 01:41:21,407 and that gives you a capacity and a dimension 1466 01:41:21,475 --> 01:41:25,311 that I would say most musicians don't have. 1467 01:41:25,379 --> 01:41:31,417 I think you spend years and years trying to hear something in your head 1468 01:41:31,485 --> 01:41:36,456 and transmit it through the guitar as instantaneously as possible. 1469 01:41:36,523 --> 01:41:41,461 In other words, being able to express your thoughts with the instrument. 1470 01:41:41,528 --> 01:41:44,197 And it's something that takes years and years to master, 1471 01:41:44,264 --> 01:41:45,932 and he was just such a natural. 1472 01:41:45,999 --> 01:41:48,000 Maybe he was born that way. 1473 01:41:48,068 --> 01:41:50,937 Maybe he learned it on those years on the chitlin' circuit. 1474 01:41:51,004 --> 01:41:54,507 Maybe a bolt of lightning struck him at one point, 1475 01:41:54,575 --> 01:41:58,811 but somehow, that brain was wired and music was his gift. 1476 01:41:58,879 --> 01:42:00,713 He could do anything with music. 1477 01:42:00,781 --> 01:42:03,616 He was in cahoots with some kind of knowledge. 1478 01:42:03,684 --> 01:42:05,318 He was touched. 1479 01:42:05,385 --> 01:42:09,388 I think he was touched by God to do that music. 1480 01:42:09,456 --> 01:42:13,659 He touched into that ether that lies in between dimensions. 1481 01:42:13,727 --> 01:42:20,266 You ride it and it rides you, and it's from beyond. 1482 01:42:21,301 --> 01:42:23,503 There's no explaining it. I felt it. 1483 01:42:23,570 --> 01:42:25,505 Sometimes when you really get going, 1484 01:42:25,572 --> 01:42:29,509 just suddenly everything gets really easy. 1485 01:42:29,576 --> 01:42:32,178 He was like that most ofthe time, 1486 01:42:32,246 --> 01:42:35,481 because he was finally safe in front ofthose amps. 1487 01:42:35,549 --> 01:42:37,884 I think Jimi did things with guitars. 1488 01:42:37,951 --> 01:42:43,623 He took them simply into the ionosphere. 1489 01:42:44,391 --> 01:42:49,729 He did things with a guitar that not before or since, 1490 01:42:49,796 --> 01:42:53,733 to this day, in 2009, 1491 01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:58,804 that no guitar player has ever matched. I don't think they ever will. 1492 01:42:58,872 --> 01:43:02,808 For me, he set the standard. 1493 01:43:02,876 --> 01:43:07,980 I mean, he was the standard. He is the standard still to this day. 1494 01:43:08,048 --> 01:43:10,616 I don't know any guitar players that would deny that. 1495 01:43:10,684 --> 01:43:14,020 Hendrix was like a one-off. 1496 01:43:14,087 --> 01:43:16,689 You'll never see anything like him again. 1497 01:43:16,757 --> 01:43:21,093 You'll never see anybody have that much control of his instrument. 1498 01:43:21,161 --> 01:43:23,763 You'll never see anybody with that pure spirit, never, 1499 01:43:23,830 --> 01:43:25,631 because nowadays it's all for money. 1500 01:43:25,699 --> 01:43:28,201 Hendrix never thought about money a day in his life. 1501 01:43:28,268 --> 01:43:30,970 Everything that came out of Hendrix's guitar 1502 01:43:31,038 --> 01:43:36,642 was insanely melodic and totally human and emotional. 1503 01:43:39,346 --> 01:43:43,249 It came from a place that was very much heartfelt, you know, 1504 01:43:43,317 --> 01:43:50,056 so there's melody, there's song in just about every note that he hits, 1505 01:43:50,123 --> 01:43:53,326 which is one ofthe things that people are always trying to emulate, 1506 01:43:53,393 --> 01:43:57,263 but it's something that comes from within. 1507 01:43:57,331 --> 01:44:01,100 You can learn it, but you can only learn it to a certain extent. 1508 01:44:01,168 --> 01:44:03,302 Hendrix had the God-given talent 1509 01:44:03,370 --> 01:44:08,774 to be able to express himself completely with the instrument. 1510 01:44:08,842 --> 01:44:14,580 No individual artist playing the guitar and singing 1511 01:44:14,648 --> 01:44:18,851 has come along since then that I have been so impressed by. 1512 01:44:18,919 --> 01:44:22,488 I mean, Stevie Ray Vaughan came pretty close. 1513 01:44:23,724 --> 01:44:28,794 Eric Clapton I've always loved as a guitar player and as a person, 1514 01:44:28,862 --> 01:44:32,231 but Jimi Hendrix was just, well, a one-off. 1515 01:44:32,299 --> 01:44:34,734 If you analyse it, it destroys it. 1516 01:44:34,801 --> 01:44:37,870 He was how he was because it was how he was, you know? 1517 01:44:37,938 --> 01:44:41,274 The whole becomes greater than the sum of its parts 1518 01:44:41,341 --> 01:44:43,809 in cases like Jimi Hendrix. 1519 01:44:43,877 --> 01:44:47,213 Yeah, he burnt bright, for a while. 1520 01:44:47,281 --> 01:44:49,081 He warmed the cockles of your heart. 1521 01:44:49,149 --> 01:44:52,184 If I had to tell that to Hendrix today, that's what I'd say to him. 1522 01:44:52,252 --> 01:44:54,253 ''You've warmed the cockles of my heart.'' 1523 01:44:54,321 --> 01:44:56,989 Hendrix was just other-worldly. 1524 01:44:59,293 --> 01:45:04,397 The emotional things that he had to express by way ofthe guitar. 1525 01:45:04,464 --> 01:45:07,066 He said, ''I want to fly. I want to keep on flying.'' 1526 01:45:07,134 --> 01:45:09,201 He said, ''I'll go from star to star.'' 1527 01:45:09,269 --> 01:45:10,603 He had altitude. 1528 01:45:10,671 --> 01:45:14,440 He kept climbing and climbing and climbing until the day he died. 1529 01:45:14,508 --> 01:45:16,942 Funny how that was his vision and that's what he did. 1530 01:45:17,010 --> 01:45:19,645 He said he was going to kiss the sky, and I guess he did. 1531 01:45:19,713 --> 01:45:21,814 So he's up there kissing the sky. 1532 01:45:21,882 --> 01:45:26,819 It's absolutely amazing to me what he achieved in those short 27 years. 1533 01:45:26,887 --> 01:45:29,455 That, to me, I think is the great legacy, 1534 01:45:29,523 --> 01:45:32,391 the work he created, those four years of fame. 1535 01:45:32,459 --> 01:45:36,696 He created a body ofwork that has spanned over 40 years since then, 1536 01:45:36,763 --> 01:45:42,902 and, you know, to me it's a life that is heroic for that reason. 1537 01:45:42,969 --> 01:45:46,839 He created this incredible body ofwork, however he died, 1538 01:45:46,907 --> 01:45:51,043 but that work will live on long past any of our own lives. 1539 01:45:51,111 --> 01:45:56,615 A few more years, a few more good things could have happened. 1540 01:45:56,683 --> 01:46:00,820 And long-lasting things, too, for himself personally. 1541 01:46:01,888 --> 01:46:05,458 He didn't have really have too much that was long-lasting for himself. 1542 01:46:06,793 --> 01:46:11,163 I really think that was his objective, to go home and be with his mother. 1543 01:46:11,231 --> 01:46:13,199 I think he always wanted to be with her. 1544 01:46:49,403 --> 01:46:51,404 Subtitles by IMS 140323

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