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I began making this film
back home in Iran in 2009
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And have since traveled thousands off miles
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in search of witnesses and archive material
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in 2012 I gave a TED talk
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in which I spoke publicly
for the first time about making this film
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Coup 53
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I am going to be telling
the story of this man
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doctor Mohamed Mossadegh
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He was our first
democratically elected prime minister
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And the closest Iran came
to having its own Mahatma Gandhi
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My film has taken so long to finish
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that some of the people
I have interviewed have since died
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In 1952 Time magazine
named him man of the year
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because he had nationalized Iranian
oil and pissed off Winston Churchill
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and the company that controlled our oil
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you now know it as PB
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so in August 1953 Eisenhower and Churchill
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staged a coup and overthrew Mossadegh
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In 1953
the United States together with Britain
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have participated in
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supporting a coup in Iran
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that got rid off Mossadegh
who was a left leaning leader of Iran
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and restored the Shah to the power in Iran
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I grew up in pre-revolution Iran
under the rule of the Shah
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went to the school and most
of the teachers were political activists
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frequently arrested by
SAVAK: the secret police
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My life under the
Shah came to an end in 1975
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when I was sent to England for school.
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Suddenly at 15 whole new culture,
new environment, new language
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, and a new tribe to observe: the British
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But unlike the Americans,
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the British government
has never officially
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acknowledged its role in the coup.
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I must insist that I do not think
at any time we really planned a coup.
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Mossadegh was potentially
the father of a future democratic Iran
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An Iran in which a young
12-year-old boy would
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not have had to have his teachers
arrested or be scared of reading a book
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Nothing in my 30-year
career as a documentary maker
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has prepared me
for the remarkable
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discovery I am about
to make on this journey
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Evidence that has the potential
to turn a dark chapter in history
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inside out
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I am the deputy
director and research
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director at the
national security archive
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which is a non-governmental organization
based at George Washington University
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so I oversee a lot of our research
projects looking at declassified documents
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from US and other archives
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and then I have a couple of my own projects
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The main one that I work on
is on US-Iran relations
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and I spend a lot of time
looking at that historical issue.
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So, these are the papers
that I have been waiting
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to see; you have seen
them over and over again?
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Yes.
what have you got?
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Well,all kinds of stuff from
the whole period of post war of
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US-Iran relations so we have
been collecting over the years
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So among other things I have got
a small collection of CIA materials.
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They are probably
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I would guess maybe 200: 300 pages
of CIA records that have been released
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officially released
over time over the years
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200:300?
Something like that, yeah
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They’re at least three internal histories
that the CIA has produced
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In probably the late 1970s,
one of these items was produced
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Is this when you write
to them asking for information?
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This is the response
letter to me saying
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"we are enclosing this
document that you requested"
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and then here is the document
itself called the battle for Iran
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The battle for Iran!
Which is still going on!
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This is what is new
about this release: covert action
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In earlier versions which you will see,
this is all plotted out
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- keep that out
- so, we can take this one out
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There is still a lot there. I like the
fact that there is still lot of blank pages
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They are supposed to show
you what was there. Right
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And what came out that was new?
I was in Tehran
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On the sixtieth anniversary of the coup
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August 19, 2013, I was in Tehran
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what was new was essentially this page
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the military coup that overthrew
Modsadegh and his national front cabinet
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was carried out under CIA direction
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They had never to my knowledge
officially acknowledged their role
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- Right!
- in the coup
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And you see here
the first part of that sentence there
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As an act of US foreign policy
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conceived and approved
at the highest levels of government
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It was not an aggressively simplistic
solution, clandestinely arrived at
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but was instead an official admission by
both the United States and United Kingdom
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that normal rational methods
of international communication
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and commerce had failed
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i.e., Mossadegh was in the way
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-And even acknowledged the British role
-Right
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So, this is the CIA outing the British
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who have not yet confessed to it
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Right
Do you know what, Malcom? um
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I am standing
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in front of the filing cabinet
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of a drawer full of documents
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that essentially
changed the fate of my country
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and changed my fate: what happened to me,
what happened to my family,my my..
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It was like how your lives,
your fate, your destiny is
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- encapsulated
- Yeah, in half a file drawer
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This is it.This changed Iran
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This box of papers
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You had a million dollars
in cash that will run the coup, right?
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That is right, and we used about sixty
thousand dollars of it. That was all
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- Are you saying that sixty
thousand dollars was all it took? -Yep
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I do not know where the money went
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and I did not ask
because it was so damn little,that uh
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that no one was
going to ask me any questions
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All they asked me was how the dickens
did you get away with spending so little
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For those among you
who know anything about the coup
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Kermit Roosevelt's name has
become synonymous with the events of 1953
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His version of the story,
the stuff of books and TV documentaries
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has been the received wisdom for decades
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But what we are about to
discover in the making of this film
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will reveal the suppressed history of what
really happened and who was responsible.
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This is the most important
document our film has discovered
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in its nine-year history of production
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This has gone on fifty or sixty years
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With the United States has been
involved in overthrowing governments
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Mossadegh back in 1953.
No body knows who Mossadeq was
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Democratically elected
prime minister of Iran
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He was overthrown by
British and American interest
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because he threatened
oil interest of the British
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And as result of that,
the Shah of Iran came in: terrible dictator
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Result of that
you had the Iranian revolution coming in
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and that's where we are today
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Good evening!
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on day thirty-seven
of the seizure of the American embassy
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and the kidnapping of the hostages
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the United States has now
moved the crisis toward a showdown stage
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For most Americans , the Iran story
begins in 1979 and the hostage crisis
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that gripped the world for 444 days
and cost Jimmy carter his presidency
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But for us Iranians,
the story goes back to 1953
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and the CIA/MI6 coup
that crushed democracy in our homeland
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Three hundred killed and
hundreds wounded as a conservative estimate
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Mossadegh and his government were swept
from power in favour of general Zahedi
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the man appointed
by the Shah in the first place
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The thoughts of Britain
instinctively turned to Abadan
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that monument of
British enterprise and engineering skill
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The force to abandon
what we had created in the wilderness
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Is it to much to hope
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that we shall see
once more the tankers of Britain at Abadan
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maybe sanity will yet prevail
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and Iran and Britain go forward in harmony.
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You know I was here earlier
looking through the titles on these boxes
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Iran–Contra
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CIA Family Jewels
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Iran-US relations
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Nest of spies, documents from Iran
,Chile Chile
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Behavioral study,Mind control.
and there is incoming FOIA
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- that means new stuff coming in
- Right we get stuff everyday
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Because we have been filing
requests for years and years
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It's like a freight train
or it just keeps coming and keeps coming
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Are you okay for me to
spend some time just going through these ?
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Absolutely,
this is the idea yep help yourself
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Thank you very much.
I don't know where to start
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-Alright -Maybe, I will one day
win the battle for Iran.
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If I can read enough of those
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- Happy reading!
- Thank you so much, Malcolm.
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The battle for Iran!
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It is an entire CIA profile of Mossadegh
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Mossadegh's power rose
from his consummate ability
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to appeal to national
aspirations and emotions
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The above fact is too little to explain
his often bizarre behaviour as a politician
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We would call him doughty in some respects
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but he was not impersonal.
Some of the very moderate person parliament
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Parliamentarians would weep when he spoke
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even though they knew perfectly well
that it was ruinous for their country
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and impractical
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His way of living and general
appearance did not stike one as being
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the sort of person
you would think of as a prime minister
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and I do not mean that
because he did not wear stripe trousers
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In fact, he always wore pajamas
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and that was a rather odd
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figure for the future prime minister to cut
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My uncle was someone
who did not go in for formalities as such
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He was who he was
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And because of his dress
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they didn't think
they are prepared to make the difference
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Of course, it was the first time
that heads of state or politicians
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came to a bed side of a prime minister
to discuss politics with him
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So, it was quite strange in western eyes
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Mossadegh was truly a remarkable figure
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his father had been
finance minister of Iran for decades
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his mother had been a princess
coming out of the Qajar dynasty
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While he was still a teenager,
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he became the chief
tax collector for his home province
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And he greatly impressed people
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with his honesty
and his seriousness and his efficiency.
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He went on to become highly educated.
He was the first Iranian
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to receive a doctorate
in laws from a European university
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He was probably the most
highly educated Iranian of his generation
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I do not think that
there has been in the last 50 years
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anybody more prestigious than Mossadegh
in the history of the country. Why?
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For one thing: Mossadegh was incorruptible
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The second thing was:
he was against the power
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always stood up to the power.
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End of Empire was a major
fourteen-part television series
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that chronicled the unwinding
of the British empire country by country.
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Even though, Iran was technically
not part of the empire
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it had been dominated
for so long by British commercial interest
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that it had to be included
as one of the featured programs.
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Alison Rooper!!
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Look at this!
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A bag full of stuff
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from a basement in Paris
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What you see here are the researched
notes and transcripts and interview notes
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made by the production
team of End of Empire
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British diplomats who were involved
in the coup, foreign office officials
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possibly MI6, I see a CIA name here.
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who knows what combing
through these papers will throw out for us
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These words of these people have not been
heard or seen for over thirty-four years.
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These look like actual
working copies of transcripts
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interview transcripts
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Pretty old school. The cut
and paste school of structuring a film
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They have cut the bits they liked
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to edit into the film.
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Darbyshire tapes
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And you have come across
the name of Norman Darbyshire?
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Sure, yeah.
He is named in the Wilber history
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and he is the one
who works with Wilber in Nicosia
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-to put the plan together.
-Okay.
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So, he is high level MI6?
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Right, and someone with Iran expertise.
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This is amazing!
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They have used quite a bit of him
because there is so many
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chunks that have been cut out.
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But I do not recall watching End of Empire
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and seeing a Darbyshire in it
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Excellent! If we want the coup in detail
and even if not
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Why did they select
bits of interview from him
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cut it out, paste it into a script
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probably edit it into the film
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but he did not make the final cut?!
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he is not in the finished film.
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In a remarkable stroke of luck
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we have discovered that
the British film institute archive
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hold the unused footage
from the End of Empire Iran episode
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After years of intense negotiation,we break
through the red tape and financial barriers
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and finally get access.
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Thirty-six cans of film
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five hundred and twenty minutes
of interview
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among which we hope
to find Norman Darbyshire
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and it is recording. Great!
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We have Digitized the entire collection
of End of Empire given to us by the BFI
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We did not find Norman Darbyshire.
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This is End of Empires' cast list
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and number one is Darbyshire
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gets a tick and an asterisk.
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Darbyshire features here
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plan conceived by Darbyshire and Woodhouse
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Darbyshire was the undercover man
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Samuel Falle worked under Darbyshire
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British embassy staff photograph,
Tehran, class of 1952
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an this is Norman Darbyshire
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looking very much the cool undercover spy
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Darbyshire would have been twenty-nine,
when this photograph was taken
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He was born on the first of October 1924.
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And he died on the seventeenth of June 1993
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His CIA counterpart was Stephen Meade.
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We found his can of film
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even though he too
was cut out of the finished film
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Stephen Meade on Iran
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This is what End of Empire
production team thought of Stephen Meade
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A young 69,hatchet-faced
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like a bit part player in B movie thriller.
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and above all,Good.
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This is brilliant!
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Wow!
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Your British counter part was in fact blank
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could you tell me something
about the man,blank
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-Your British counter part
was in fact Norman Darbyshire -yes
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could you tell me something
about the man,Norman Darbyshire?
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Well, I did not know
him at all before I met him
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What kind of a man was blank?
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What kind of a man was Norman Darbyshire?
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Darbyshire has been wiped out
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cleaned out
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everywhere
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But, amazingly
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I have not found an identical
Darbyshire interview uncut.
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One Norman Darbyshire
original interview cut up.
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And then
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a Darbyshire interview intact.
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So, this Darbyshire interview
which is exactly the same.
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Darbyshire Darbyshire
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Here Darbyshire has been blanked out.
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This has not been cut which means
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All the bits that they selected
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for the film
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and cut out of this one
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are in this one
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Afshartous was one of the few
generals who was very pro-Mossadegh.
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Tough minded guy
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so, Mossadegh appointed him chief of police
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and for the anti-Mossadegh army officers
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he was a bit noir.
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Police chief Afshartous
claimed to have a list of Iranian officials
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who were conspiring
with the Americans to unseat Mossadegh
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and he was going to publicize this.
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I know it is so English.
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Hello!
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Nice to meet you!
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Lovely to meet you!
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-Thank you so much for coming in ,Alison.
-Pleasure!
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Absolutely. I also just wanted to compliment
you on the depth of your research.
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which was a great service to us.
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And now because we have
gotten all of that material from the BFI
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meshing very nicely with our interviews
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with the Iranian side of the equation
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So, this would give
you an idea of the style of our film
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like how we are approaching the story
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Look at this!
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A bag full of stuff
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from a basement in Paris.
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What you see here are the researched
notes and transcripts and interview notes
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made by the production
team of End of Empire
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These look like actual
working copies of transcripts
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interview transcripts
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The cut and paste
school of structuring a film.
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They have cut the bits they liked
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to edit into the film.
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Darbyshire tapes
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Darbyshire tape one
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Oh yes
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He was the man.
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But I do not recall
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seeing a Darbyshire in it.
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He is not in the finished film.
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So, a big mystery as now
evident there is Darbyshire is missing.
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-What is the story of Darbyshire?
-OK so
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Just remind me
did I interview him sound only
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in a pre-interview?
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or did I not?
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Was it on the phone? I mean what how did we
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We did an interview.
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You interviewed Darbyshire?
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-Not filmed.
-Not filmed him?
338
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That's the whole point.
He never agreed to be filmed.
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I do not even remember
whether this was our interview
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or somebody else did it.
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But Mark may remember.
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How are you, Mark? Long time.
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I am sitting in a film
cutting room with Taghi Amirani
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and he has managed
to persuade the BFI to let him
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use all the rushes
from the End of Empire program
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and there is one question
I can not answer at all
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which concerns Mr.Darbyshire.
348
00:26:01,739 --> 00:26:04,981
-Hello -Yeah, I have just put you
on speaker phone so Taghi can hear that.
349
00:26:05,048 --> 00:26:08,282
Yeah, he had that kind of spy a fake news
350
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you know deniability.
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He never came up with anything concrete
352
00:26:12,481 --> 00:26:15,958
We were always after
you know "he said","I said"
353
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uhhm nothing I said cause he
was not ever going to say anything anyway.
354
00:26:20,098 --> 00:26:22,598
You know I really
I can not picture him.
355
00:26:22,887 --> 00:26:24,434
I do not believe he was in the program
356
00:26:24,458 --> 00:26:26,153
But Taghi has found one
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one thing which was about the
assassination of the police chief in Tehran
358
00:26:31,583 --> 00:26:33,771
-Well
-He was asked point-blank
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were you involved in the assassination
of the chief of police of Tehran?
360
00:26:36,887 --> 00:26:38,809
And he says point-blank Yes.
361
00:26:39,630 --> 00:26:43,419
and that is the one thing
that jumps out in the transcript.
362
00:26:44,083 --> 00:26:46,325
Yeah,okay.
I do not remember that
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but if he said he was, he probably was
364
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(Inaudible noise)
365
00:26:50,918 --> 00:26:51,973
Sorry!
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We are losing you.
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00:26:54,981 --> 00:26:56,973
oh reception is gonna (mumbles)
368
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,144
will have to picture it
369
00:26:58,380 --> 00:26:59,551
Yeah,she will text you.
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00:26:59,747 --> 00:27:01,309
-Lovely fantastic ,Mark.
-Okay.
371
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-we will say goodbye.Thank you very much.
-Okay.
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-Bye.
-Thank you so much.
373
00:27:08,848 --> 00:27:09,864
Thank you ,Alison.
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00:27:10,022 --> 00:27:12,353
Was there ever a version
of the film with Darbyshire in it?
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00:27:13,613 --> 00:27:14,668
I do not remember that.
376
00:27:15,138 --> 00:27:17,013
Is he remembering wrong?
377
00:27:18,106 --> 00:27:21,324
-We will have to check cause I can
not remember that happening -yeah,right.
378
00:27:21,348 --> 00:27:22,794
I do not think we ever filmed him
379
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and you had not seen
any rushes in there either.
380
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No, but believe
in hope of finding something.
381
00:27:28,497 --> 00:27:29,903
-You never know.
-You never know.
382
00:27:30,585 --> 00:27:31,822
-Thank you so much.
-Thank you.
383
00:27:36,973 --> 00:27:38,145
Hi, is that Humphery?
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00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:40,950
Hi, this is Taghi Amirani
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00:27:40,975 --> 00:27:44,201
you have been speaking to my
colleague Evelyn about our documentary
386
00:27:47,989 --> 00:27:50,674
Yes, Alison came in and we spoke to her
387
00:27:50,699 --> 00:27:53,067
and then she also
managed to get him on the phone
388
00:27:53,380 --> 00:27:56,427
and his memory of Darbyshire was hazy.
389
00:27:56,778 --> 00:27:59,349
but I figured the one person
whose memory will not be hazy
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00:27:59,374 --> 00:28:01,817
because he is a camera man
looking through the view finder.
391
00:28:02,090 --> 00:28:03,223
is Humphery.
392
00:28:06,387 --> 00:28:07,715
Do you remember the location?
393
00:28:09,005 --> 00:28:10,098
Out of all the interviewees
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that you have filmed.Darbyshire
395
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he is the most outspoken
and open and blunt about everything.
396
00:28:15,345 --> 00:28:16,348
He does not hold back.
397
00:28:24,317 --> 00:28:26,622
-Can you do a little
old school hand clap for me? -okay.
398
00:28:27,792 --> 00:28:29,356
Excellent !Right.
399
00:28:32,130 --> 00:28:35,879
Did you know that your Sam Falle interview
was the very first interview he did?
400
00:28:36,348 --> 00:28:37,480
One take one
401
00:28:38,848 --> 00:28:40,880
Probably, right because I can remember it.
402
00:28:41,036 --> 00:28:43,965
It was the first time
that I met Alison who was the researcher.
403
00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:46,466
So, that is you are right.
404
00:28:46,622 --> 00:28:49,039
So, what do you
remember of Darbyshire on that day?
405
00:28:49,137 --> 00:28:52,638
Because clearly from what
you said and from his transcript
406
00:28:52,923 --> 00:28:54,199
He was very open.
407
00:28:54,330 --> 00:28:55,788
He was very blunt.
408
00:28:56,179 --> 00:28:57,481
He was memorable.
409
00:28:58,523 --> 00:29:01,882
I got the impression
that he was somebody who felt
410
00:29:03,235 --> 00:29:07,324
that there were things
to be said that had not being said.
411
00:29:07,950 --> 00:29:11,101
I got the feeling that he was somebody who
412
00:29:14,434 --> 00:29:16,179
had had time to reflect
413
00:29:17,013 --> 00:29:18,028
and felt that
414
00:29:19,591 --> 00:29:22,313
there was not any
reason to hide these things
415
00:29:22,337 --> 00:29:24,513
it probably was important
in the public interest.
416
00:29:25,605 --> 00:29:27,886
I am sure Mossadegh's grandson
Matine Daftari
417
00:29:27,925 --> 00:29:30,203
has told me on more than one occasion that
418
00:29:30,736 --> 00:29:34,408
there was a screening of End of Empire
in Golden Square in London
419
00:29:34,565 --> 00:29:36,708
and there was an MI6 man in the audience
420
00:29:36,908 --> 00:29:40,085
who did not like himself being in it
and he asked the producer to take him out
421
00:29:40,450 --> 00:29:42,013
Now, is this tape
422
00:29:42,507 --> 00:29:44,356
the program as it was transmitted?
423
00:29:44,513 --> 00:29:46,466
Which version of the End of Empire is this?
424
00:29:46,570 --> 00:29:48,914
This was the last version.
425
00:29:49,669 --> 00:29:52,117
The final version which went on the screen.
426
00:29:52,871 --> 00:29:55,163
But long before that there was a preview
427
00:29:55,632 --> 00:29:56,687
of the film
428
00:29:56,895 --> 00:29:58,653
before it went on air.
429
00:29:59,024 --> 00:30:01,328
and they invited people for corrections
430
00:30:01,622 --> 00:30:05,177
People who were invited also were us to
431
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,356
make any corrections
if necessary and all that. -right.
432
00:30:09,630 --> 00:30:12,013
And Darbyshire
433
00:30:12,598 --> 00:30:15,399
asked to be taken out of the
434
00:30:15,957 --> 00:30:17,364
whole thing you know.
435
00:30:17,715 --> 00:30:21,699
Both Mark and Alison told me about it.
436
00:30:21,816 --> 00:30:22,871
told me about it
437
00:30:23,067 --> 00:30:25,802
You think Darbyshire
asked to be taken out because
438
00:30:26,192 --> 00:30:30,294
Because the British government
had not allowed him to do it.
439
00:30:30,762 --> 00:30:33,731
I have been Secretary
of State for Foreign Affairs.
440
00:30:34,122 --> 00:30:35,958
I was in charge of MI6.
441
00:30:36,427 --> 00:30:39,552
I know the difficulties of the
task of the governments of today.
442
00:30:39,708 --> 00:30:41,895
all the time when you ask me questions
443
00:30:42,324 --> 00:30:45,879
there is a little thing
back in my head saying be careful
444
00:30:45,903 --> 00:30:47,051
do not cross the line.
445
00:30:47,442 --> 00:30:50,137
You can criticize,
but do not make their life harder
446
00:30:50,161 --> 00:30:52,161
It is hard enough any how
being foreign secretary
447
00:30:52,442 --> 00:30:54,161
and prime minister in this country.
448
00:30:54,786 --> 00:30:56,446
Our star witness.
449
00:30:56,509 --> 00:30:59,371
our star find in our
research in Norman Darbyshire.
450
00:30:59,864 --> 00:31:01,993
What would possess an MI6 agent
451
00:31:02,017 --> 00:31:05,274
to reveal things which
are still kept secret to this day?
452
00:31:07,500 --> 00:31:08,516
-Darbyshire?
-Yeah.
453
00:31:08,711 --> 00:31:11,616
I do not know.
I have not consciously met him
454
00:31:11,641 --> 00:31:13,282
but I may have done in the past.
455
00:31:13,614 --> 00:31:16,739
But I can imagine that he believes
456
00:31:17,091 --> 00:31:19,591
like I believe that
457
00:31:21,368 --> 00:31:25,235
the best thing to deal with
this constant suspicion of Britain
458
00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:26,465
is to be more open.
459
00:31:27,052 --> 00:31:28,942
Reading Darbyshire's interview
460
00:31:28,967 --> 00:31:32,403
you get a sense that he is tying
to restore credit where credit is due.
461
00:31:32,427 --> 00:31:36,153
He is a bit pissed off that the Americans
walked away with the credit for the coup.
462
00:31:36,329 --> 00:31:38,380
But that may be your explanation.
463
00:31:38,887 --> 00:31:42,637
Vanity of vanities,
saith the Preacher,all is vanity.
464
00:31:42,696 --> 00:31:45,508
We all like recognition
for what we have done.
465
00:31:45,551 --> 00:31:49,115
And maybe that was the
reason he blew their gasket.
466
00:31:49,140 --> 00:31:51,955
He was fed up with being
told that this was the Americans.
467
00:31:51,997 --> 00:31:56,621
He walked into a good old British few and
he wanted them to get some credit for it.
468
00:31:56,646 --> 00:31:57,931
That maybe it. I do not know.
469
00:31:57,956 --> 00:31:59,786
That is to say
I do not think I know the man.
470
00:31:59,982 --> 00:32:02,990
He will be another nail in the coffin of a
471
00:32:03,537 --> 00:32:05,333
view of the Official Secrets Acts
472
00:32:05,357 --> 00:32:08,810
that you can just use it
to save you from embarrassment.
473
00:32:09,357 --> 00:32:11,083
There is absolutely no reason whatever
474
00:32:11,407 --> 00:32:13,732
under the sun
why that should not be published.
475
00:32:15,490 --> 00:32:17,326
Norman Darbyshire take one.
476
00:32:24,747 --> 00:32:28,146
What you are about to see here
as the team sets up at the Savoy
477
00:32:28,224 --> 00:32:31,427
is the result of us not being able to find
478
00:32:31,562 --> 00:32:33,124
the Darbyshire can of film.
479
00:32:33,148 --> 00:32:38,046
We hit a brick wall. We hit a wall of
silence and denial about Norman Darbyshire.
480
00:32:38,070 --> 00:32:40,624
so, we have resulted to
bringing his words to life.
481
00:32:40,648 --> 00:32:42,031
Ah there it is. Okay.
482
00:32:42,383 --> 00:32:47,578
Ralph Fiennes is about to speak
Darbyshire's words recorded back in 1983.
483
00:32:48,007 --> 00:32:50,859
Telling us thing the British
did not want anyone to hear.
484
00:32:51,094 --> 00:32:55,000
And these are the bits that the people
who made the original documentary loved
485
00:32:55,625 --> 00:32:57,695
Which is also what we love.
486
00:32:59,297 --> 00:33:00,898
Sorry, I am getting drawn into the
487
00:33:02,432 --> 00:33:04,276
Just imagine how I
felt when I came across it.
488
00:33:04,300 --> 00:33:05,709
It was one late nigh in the office.
489
00:33:11,328 --> 00:33:12,695
-Good morning!
-Good morning!
490
00:33:13,609 --> 00:33:16,758
-Walter correct?
-Fantastic yes.
491
00:33:17,773 --> 00:33:18,789
This is Humphery.
492
00:33:18,813 --> 00:33:20,813
-HI!
-I am today's cameraman.
493
00:33:21,055 --> 00:33:22,695
Good! That is alright.
494
00:33:22,836 --> 00:33:24,765
I can take it easy
495
00:33:24,789 --> 00:33:26,991
As you know filming these windows is
496
00:33:27,362 --> 00:33:30,682
-is a big challenge for the cameraman.
- We had a policy for that whole series.
497
00:33:30,742 --> 00:33:33,398
-Yeah.
-Cause I did about half the End of Empire.
498
00:33:33,554 --> 00:33:37,030
As far as we could, we would
shoot the windows in order to
499
00:33:37,302 --> 00:33:40,466
set authenticity about the background
500
00:33:41,132 --> 00:33:43,827
Have you seen the footage
of the script supervisor?
501
00:33:43,852 --> 00:33:45,522
No, she was the researcher so that
502
00:33:45,547 --> 00:33:47,430
did the producer and they
suddenly get weird and
503
00:33:47,454 --> 00:33:49,337
they do not remember
him and they all go vague.
504
00:33:50,038 --> 00:33:52,812
Well, I was surprised that they did not
505
00:33:52,837 --> 00:33:55,366
it is incendiary what he is saying
and even then you would have
506
00:33:55,391 --> 00:33:58,554
Well, I was surprised
because I have a memory
507
00:33:58,617 --> 00:34:01,562
of being a little bit
astonished at what he was saying.
508
00:34:01,721 --> 00:34:05,995
He was straight up and down
saying the stuff and it was quite
509
00:34:06,679 --> 00:34:07,734
quite amazing.
510
00:34:07,929 --> 00:34:09,023
-Everybody good?
-Yep.
511
00:34:10,820 --> 00:34:13,476
Everyone back in your positions, please.
512
00:34:15,273 --> 00:34:16,284
that looks
513
00:34:16,308 --> 00:34:18,308
-Looks good.
-Yeah.
514
00:34:19,568 --> 00:34:21,248
We are making good..making good time.
515
00:34:23,515 --> 00:34:24,530
That is very good.
516
00:34:26,523 --> 00:34:28,159
Yes, you are right. Yes, great.
517
00:34:36,991 --> 00:34:38,006
Right, okay
518
00:34:38,031 --> 00:34:41,370
so, Mr.Darbyshire is about
to tell us the story of the coup
519
00:34:41,394 --> 00:34:42,813
like it has never been told before.
520
00:34:44,023 --> 00:34:46,016
Right
Everyone good? Okay.
521
00:34:49,844 --> 00:34:51,601
When did you first go out to Iran?
522
00:34:52,344 --> 00:34:58,672
I went out in 43-47 period.
First of all, as an army officer in SOE
523
00:34:59,336 --> 00:35:03,163
and I was there from the
end of 43 to the middle of 47
524
00:35:03,187 --> 00:35:07,031
from late 49 to 52 when
Mossadegh threw us out and
525
00:35:07,733 --> 00:35:09,100
broke off relations.
526
00:35:11,264 --> 00:35:14,253
You got this incredible first-hand witness
527
00:35:14,936 --> 00:35:16,977
-Alright
-Not just any witness he is a..
528
00:35:17,002 --> 00:35:18,432
How did it come to this?
529
00:35:18,666 --> 00:35:19,701
Exactly, it's like
530
00:35:19,819 --> 00:35:23,084
how do we get to having to kill
the chief of police of Tehran
531
00:35:23,108 --> 00:35:24,467
in order to get the coup going?
532
00:35:25,346 --> 00:35:28,862
A member of the British
government is saying in black and white
533
00:35:29,154 --> 00:35:32,651
that he was involved in the
assassination of the chief of police
534
00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:36,538
and he is running the coup
so, he is not just anybody.
535
00:35:36,562 --> 00:35:37,943
So, this is amazing!
536
00:35:38,045 --> 00:35:41,869
The actual running of the coup
from our side was my responsibility.
537
00:35:44,936 --> 00:35:46,303
Uhh let me
538
00:35:46,811 --> 00:35:49,936
hmm let me take you back a little
because it may be of interest to talk about
539
00:35:50,874 --> 00:35:52,104
nationalization.
540
00:35:56,166 --> 00:36:00,229
The Persians were bitterly resentful of the
way they were being treated by the British.
541
00:36:00,951 --> 00:36:03,923
Because the oil company
was run by ex-patriots
542
00:36:03,947 --> 00:36:06,674
who called anyone east of Calais a wog.
543
00:36:07,377 --> 00:36:09,936
And to them the Iranians were wogs.
544
00:36:10,993 --> 00:36:14,015
Did you get the impression that
members of the Anglo-Iranian
545
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,051
British members looked
down on their Persian counterparts
546
00:36:17,075 --> 00:36:18,586
and indeed on Persians generally?
547
00:36:20,629 --> 00:36:23,554
I think the Iranian answer
to that where I an Iranian
548
00:36:23,593 --> 00:36:27,348
would be that the trouble was that they
did not even bother to look down on us.
549
00:36:28,129 --> 00:36:31,983
The impression was rather one of
just taking them very much for granted.
550
00:36:32,890 --> 00:36:36,370
uhm but not really
regarding them as subjects of
551
00:36:36,394 --> 00:36:40,312
even sufficient interest
to be treated as wogs.
552
00:36:50,911 --> 00:36:54,218
At Abadan, you had
a classic colonial enclave
553
00:36:54,817 --> 00:36:57,828
All the British workers were well-dressed,
554
00:36:57,852 --> 00:37:01,436
had nice homes with the classic little
lawns, and the rose bushes.
555
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,807
There were swimming pools,
and movie theaters;
556
00:37:03,831 --> 00:37:06,086
pooling alleys, and athletic fields.
557
00:37:06,745 --> 00:37:09,271
And side by side with the giant refinery
558
00:37:09,739 --> 00:37:11,290
schools and colleges
559
00:37:11,314 --> 00:37:14,088
hospitals and clumps and clinics
560
00:37:15,026 --> 00:37:17,838
all the amenities of
a city of today for work
561
00:37:18,333 --> 00:37:19,400
and living
562
00:37:19,583 --> 00:37:20,599
and leisure.
563
00:37:33,692 --> 00:37:34,810
So, of course the Persians
564
00:37:35,540 --> 00:37:39,758
had the feeling that they were being
screwed and rightly so because uhm well
565
00:37:40,469 --> 00:37:42,448
from 1920 onwards I would say yes.
566
00:37:44,896 --> 00:37:47,161
When oil was discovered in Iran,
567
00:37:47,422 --> 00:37:48,880
Churchill described it as
568
00:37:49,192 --> 00:37:54,114
"A prize from fairyland
beyond our wildest dreams."
569
00:37:54,173 --> 00:37:57,630
Thanks to Winston Churchill
the first lord of the admiralty
570
00:37:58,020 --> 00:38:02,812
he changed the British fleet
from coal-burning to petroleum-based
571
00:38:02,836 --> 00:38:06,666
and this was a life changing moment
for uh for the world.
572
00:38:06,690 --> 00:38:10,103
Because it made petroleum
as important as it is today.
573
00:38:10,573 --> 00:38:12,370
Under the original agreement
574
00:38:13,073 --> 00:38:17,943
only about 16% of the oil revenue
was supposed to be given to Iran
575
00:38:18,359 --> 00:38:21,901
but that 16% was gonna
be calculated by the British.
576
00:38:22,291 --> 00:38:24,922
And no Iranian would
be allowed to look at the books.
577
00:38:25,755 --> 00:38:27,187
We now know also that
578
00:38:27,343 --> 00:38:31,745
the amount was calculated
after the oil company paid its taxes.
579
00:38:32,291 --> 00:38:34,988
Now the oil company was
owned by the British government
580
00:38:35,013 --> 00:38:38,177
so, when it was paying taxes,
it was essentially paying taxes to itself.
581
00:38:38,201 --> 00:38:39,924
We were not handing over files.
582
00:38:40,419 --> 00:38:43,087
We were not handing over
accounts which they asked us for.
583
00:38:43,111 --> 00:38:44,872
I said I had no authority to hand them.
584
00:38:45,289 --> 00:38:48,206
British company is accountless,
I was told from London
585
00:39:04,690 --> 00:39:06,487
So, it was a lot of creative accounting
586
00:39:06,745 --> 00:39:09,782
but in the end it was
clear that almost all of the money
587
00:39:09,807 --> 00:39:12,159
from this tremendous
resource was going into Britain
588
00:39:12,183 --> 00:39:14,229
and almost none
was coming back to Iran.
589
00:39:14,377 --> 00:39:17,283
Well, it became very obvious that
something was going to happen in Abadan
590
00:39:17,307 --> 00:39:19,690
and it was nationalization.
591
00:39:22,059 --> 00:39:24,361
Long-smoldering Iranian nationalists
592
00:39:24,385 --> 00:39:27,268
made clear their intention
to seize the oil industry
593
00:39:27,658 --> 00:39:29,846
and expropriate the British company.
594
00:39:29,947 --> 00:39:32,919
Focal point of Iranian unrest, however,
is the government
595
00:39:33,258 --> 00:39:36,200
headed by seventy-year-old
premier Mohamed Mossadegh
596
00:39:36,353 --> 00:39:39,143
whose single purpose is
oil nationalization.
597
00:40:05,237 --> 00:40:07,659
He was a marvelous politician
598
00:40:07,997 --> 00:40:10,810
and at that time
he had all the people with him.
599
00:40:10,991 --> 00:40:14,898
He had clobbered the imperialist.
He had nationalized the oil company.
600
00:40:15,054 --> 00:40:18,387
Iran was a country again.
It was great stuff. It was very moving.
601
00:40:18,751 --> 00:40:24,542
When the flag of the oil company goes down
and the Iranian flag goes up
602
00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:30,106
this was seen both in England and Iran
as declaration of independence.
603
00:40:30,182 --> 00:40:33,283
Every single heart in Iran throbbed
604
00:40:34,169 --> 00:40:36,409
uhh a few beats faster
605
00:40:36,721 --> 00:40:39,039
at the pleasure of seeing this
606
00:40:39,063 --> 00:40:42,215
what they saw as
a smack in the face to the British.
607
00:40:42,815 --> 00:40:45,679
and I said that if we do not
do anything about this
608
00:40:46,148 --> 00:40:50,237
within five years we shall lose
the Suez Canal on the same principle.
609
00:40:50,373 --> 00:40:54,019
which in fact proved to be
exactly right almost to the day.
610
00:40:59,143 --> 00:41:01,412
The sixteenth independent parachute brigade
611
00:41:01,436 --> 00:41:04,143
stands by to proceed to
a foreign destination.
612
00:41:05,028 --> 00:41:07,737
In occupation of the
first battalion parachute regiment
613
00:41:08,153 --> 00:41:11,449
strengthen rumors that the airborne sharp
shooters might be sent to Persia
614
00:41:11,616 --> 00:41:15,862
to protect British nationals employed
there by the Anglo-Iranian oil company.
615
00:41:16,397 --> 00:41:20,185
We had a date to see Winston
that night at about half past eleven.
616
00:41:20,367 --> 00:41:22,320
uhhh he said Drake
617
00:41:23,570 --> 00:41:25,965
I think he had had a good dinner
618
00:41:26,956 --> 00:41:30,028
and he said "Have you got a pistol ,Drake?"
619
00:41:31,174 --> 00:41:32,294
I said no, Sir.
620
00:41:32,476 --> 00:41:35,080
we are under martial law in Abadan.
621
00:41:35,810 --> 00:41:38,429
"Pity", he said
"You can finish a man with a pistol."
622
00:41:38,778 --> 00:41:42,528
And HMS Mauritius
standing by in the Shatt al-Arab river.
623
00:41:42,553 --> 00:41:45,653
Such pictures tell the story
of the oil crisis pretty clearly.
624
00:41:46,876 --> 00:41:51,095
We had the cruiser out there and she had
her guns open range across the refinery.
625
00:41:51,980 --> 00:41:56,069
And the problem arose were we
or were we not going to take Abadan.
626
00:41:59,714 --> 00:42:03,491
Two members of the delegation going up to
Persia for talks on the oil crisis
627
00:42:03,672 --> 00:42:07,371
Mr. Jackson and Mr. Elkington are seen
about to leave London airport.
628
00:42:15,340 --> 00:42:18,140
Were the negotiations
face saving for the British?
629
00:42:18,202 --> 00:42:20,573
Yes, they had to go through the motions.
630
00:42:21,326 --> 00:42:25,365
They wanted to oust Mossadegh regardless of
whether he signed a favorable agreement.
631
00:42:25,404 --> 00:42:28,673
Our policy was to get rid
off Mossadegh as soon as possible.
632
00:42:28,855 --> 00:42:31,433
We did not think he
would do any good to Iran.
633
00:42:31,538 --> 00:42:34,975
We thought when Mossadegh came in
that it would be relatively easy to
634
00:42:35,574 --> 00:42:36,590
to get rid off him.
635
00:42:40,645 --> 00:42:43,793
Back to report the failure
of his efforts to solve the oil crisis
636
00:42:43,817 --> 00:42:45,254
comes Mr. Richard Stokes.
637
00:42:45,496 --> 00:42:48,647
And just as soon as this obstacle in the
way of providing adequate conditions
638
00:42:48,829 --> 00:42:50,053
The talks collapsed
639
00:42:50,313 --> 00:42:52,345
and the British evacuated Abadan
640
00:42:52,605 --> 00:42:54,454
expecting the refinery to shut down.
641
00:42:54,478 --> 00:42:56,837
Abadan, where the last
group of British oil experts
642
00:42:56,861 --> 00:42:59,591
pass through the customs
on route for Iraq and home.
643
00:43:37,215 --> 00:43:41,797
Right after the last moment Mossadegh did
not want the British employees to leave.
644
00:43:41,976 --> 00:43:44,844
They would receive the
same treatment if not better
645
00:43:44,893 --> 00:43:46,719
as far as salaries of a concern.
646
00:43:46,743 --> 00:43:51,225
And he kept on saying to the British let us
keep your employees as our employees.
647
00:43:51,250 --> 00:43:52,501
They said no.
648
00:43:52,579 --> 00:43:54,845
Many leaving a
lifetime of service behind them
649
00:43:54,961 --> 00:43:58,165
as they see the liquidation
of fifty years magnificent achievement
650
00:43:58,334 --> 00:43:59,975
in the reputable soil of Persia
651
00:44:03,062 --> 00:44:06,578
The return of the refinery's general
manager Mr. Russ made headline news.
652
00:44:51,396 --> 00:44:54,808
In the two years
following the evacuation of Abadan
653
00:44:54,938 --> 00:44:58,870
the British tried everything they could
to destabilize the Mossadegh government.
654
00:44:59,641 --> 00:45:01,660
The refinery itself was sabotaged
655
00:45:01,684 --> 00:45:04,729
to prevent Iranian engineers
from operating the machinery.
656
00:45:04,964 --> 00:45:06,786
There was no question of violent resistance
657
00:45:06,810 --> 00:45:10,563
but it is extraordinary how
pieces of the plant would go wrong
658
00:45:11,136 --> 00:45:13,844
just when they were supposed
to be doing something else, you know?
659
00:45:14,417 --> 00:45:16,969
The British took their case
to the United Nations
660
00:45:16,993 --> 00:45:18,948
The Iranian oil dispute comes to New York.
661
00:45:19,176 --> 00:45:21,137
As Persia's prime
minister Dr. Mossadegh
662
00:45:21,161 --> 00:45:23,863
arrives by air
to put forward his country's case.
663
00:45:24,078 --> 00:45:26,162
and the international court at the Hague.
664
00:45:26,657 --> 00:45:31,839
The present actions and threats
of the Iranian government
665
00:45:32,438 --> 00:45:37,360
may render it impossible
to execute a judgment
666
00:45:37,776 --> 00:45:40,719
in favor of the United Kingdom.
667
00:45:42,099 --> 00:45:44,573
Both judgments went in favor of Iran.
668
00:46:00,855 --> 00:46:03,537
He had a great impact on America
669
00:46:03,668 --> 00:46:06,836
Because do not forget
that the Americans
670
00:46:06,860 --> 00:46:10,855
most of the Americans like
to talk to a man who has charisma.
671
00:46:11,350 --> 00:46:12,990
And Mossadegh had that Charisma.
672
00:46:13,798 --> 00:46:15,959
He had his own convictions
673
00:46:16,428 --> 00:46:18,693
yet in politics, he was an actor.
674
00:46:20,467 --> 00:46:23,095
Truman and Mossadegh
had a good personal relationship.
675
00:46:23,850 --> 00:46:25,764
Truman had told the British
676
00:46:25,788 --> 00:46:29,006
that Iran had sovereign rights
that deserve to be respected
677
00:46:29,345 --> 00:46:33,537
and that the United states had offered
millions and millions of dollars in aid.
678
00:46:46,298 --> 00:46:48,978
Churchill was reelected as a tough warrior
679
00:46:49,002 --> 00:46:52,001
who would sort out Iran
the way he had sorted out the Nazis.
680
00:46:52,131 --> 00:46:57,027
Never shall we lose our faith and courage
681
00:46:57,339 --> 00:47:00,855
and never shall
we fail in exertion in result.
682
00:47:02,469 --> 00:47:04,472
A global blockade was enforced
683
00:47:04,496 --> 00:47:07,522
to prevent Iran from
selling its oil on the world market.
684
00:47:07,678 --> 00:47:10,935
The embargo was always
an important part of our uhm
685
00:47:11,638 --> 00:47:16,194
maneuvers to bring Mossadegh
to reason and assessable settlement.
686
00:47:16,844 --> 00:47:21,063
The Persians think that by nationalizing
oil they are going to get rich.
687
00:47:22,313 --> 00:47:25,048
unfortunately,
the reverse will be the case.
688
00:47:25,238 --> 00:47:26,350
and uhm
689
00:47:26,558 --> 00:47:28,303
as the economic situation worsened,
690
00:47:28,327 --> 00:47:29,995
the better it was for us.
691
00:47:30,385 --> 00:47:33,823
The longer our policy of denying him
692
00:47:34,293 --> 00:47:36,454
his success continued
693
00:47:36,793 --> 00:47:39,162
the more the Persian
people would be disillusioned
694
00:47:39,186 --> 00:47:40,985
and the more the would disillusion with him
695
00:47:41,139 --> 00:47:43,875
like many governments the more
chance there was of his disappearance.
696
00:47:44,455 --> 00:47:47,458
Are you saying that there was
no possibility of him selling this oil
697
00:47:47,483 --> 00:47:50,569
across the counter
because you had sewn up the outlets?
698
00:47:51,193 --> 00:47:55,100
We put advertisements
in most of the newspapers of the world
699
00:47:55,124 --> 00:47:58,094
saying that who bought
Persian oil bought a lawsuit.
700
00:47:58,589 --> 00:47:59,970
Not a very democratic thing to do
701
00:48:02,157 --> 00:48:04,422
I think when you are attacked,
you defend yourself.
702
00:48:04,709 --> 00:48:07,209
You do not think of
democracy and those terms.
703
00:48:08,980 --> 00:48:12,834
To cap it off Time Magazine
named Mossadegh man of the year
704
00:48:13,355 --> 00:48:15,308
beating out Churchill and Eisenhower
705
00:48:15,489 --> 00:48:17,312
who were also up for consideration.
706
00:48:17,495 --> 00:48:19,526
It is a double-edged article.
707
00:48:19,891 --> 00:48:23,694
He is described as actually
the crazy man in the mountain.
708
00:48:24,500 --> 00:48:27,805
They even call him
the British man in Iran and stuff
709
00:48:27,829 --> 00:48:29,457
which is completely false anyway.
710
00:48:39,526 --> 00:48:43,018
Our research has found a
reference to the End of Empire TV program
711
00:48:43,057 --> 00:48:46,219
printed in The Observer newspaper
in May 1985.
712
00:48:47,157 --> 00:48:50,750
So, I am just going through
this page by page to see what we find.
713
00:48:52,209 --> 00:48:55,559
But it is a weird journey
down the time tunnel seeing
714
00:48:55,583 --> 00:48:56,586
wooo
715
00:48:59,812 --> 00:49:00,853
Found it.
716
00:49:00,978 --> 00:49:04,728
How MI6 and CIA
joined forces to plot Iran coup
717
00:49:05,022 --> 00:49:08,798
Nigel Hawkes reveals
the true story of 1953 'Operation Boot.'
718
00:49:09,422 --> 00:49:12,287
Evidence provided by a former MI6 man
719
00:49:12,337 --> 00:49:16,870
has clarified many of the murkier
corners of the coup which ousted Mossadegh.
720
00:49:16,894 --> 00:49:19,352
From a series of interviews
carried out by Granada Television
721
00:49:19,376 --> 00:49:20,933
for its End of Empire series.
722
00:49:21,008 --> 00:49:24,929
The program will broadcast
on channel four tomorrow evening.
723
00:49:25,022 --> 00:49:28,668
-Read this! You will love every word
of this article -Unbelievable!
724
00:49:28,902 --> 00:49:32,678
An article not a TV preview.
A journalist who has seen the program.
725
00:49:33,043 --> 00:49:35,647
The purpose was to boost
the morale of the opposition.
726
00:49:35,829 --> 00:49:39,269
He makes it clear, for example, that
it was agents acting for the British
727
00:49:39,293 --> 00:49:42,726
who kidnapped Mossadegh's
police chief and then shot him dead.
728
00:49:42,990 --> 00:49:44,822
Nigel Hawkes
is he still around?
729
00:49:44,861 --> 00:49:46,599
Yeah,he is alive.
we are trying to find him.
730
00:49:46,636 --> 00:49:48,120
-Oh good.
-Hello Nigel Hawkes.
731
00:49:48,433 --> 00:49:52,131
Nigel hi good afternoon.
It is Taghi Amirani here.
732
00:49:52,443 --> 00:49:55,386
We had an email exchange
a couple of weeks ago.
733
00:49:58,615 --> 00:50:00,569
One of the key questions for me is
734
00:50:00,699 --> 00:50:04,944
did you write that article
based on seeing a preview of the film?
735
00:50:10,968 --> 00:50:11,978
Well, here is the thing
736
00:50:12,003 --> 00:50:16,037
we got hold of a copy
of the film given to us by ITV.
737
00:50:16,402 --> 00:50:20,178
And everything you talk
about this man in your article
738
00:50:20,541 --> 00:50:22,599
is not in the film nor is he.
739
00:50:24,631 --> 00:50:26,610
-Well, that is curious, isn't it?
-Yep.
740
00:50:29,084 --> 00:50:31,141
-That is very curious.
-Yep.
741
00:50:32,365 --> 00:50:33,728
I can't explain that.
742
00:50:46,170 --> 00:50:48,200
I am on my way to see Stephen Dorril
743
00:50:49,216 --> 00:50:51,013
the writer of the book MI6.
744
00:50:51,716 --> 00:50:55,407
A solid thick heavy monster of a book.
745
00:50:57,474 --> 00:51:00,444
So, I did not think that I am going
to end up in a sleepy Yorkshire village
746
00:51:00,469 --> 00:51:03,025
with Stephen Dorril
the writer of the MI6 book.
747
00:51:04,275 --> 00:51:06,775
No, it is a long way from Iran
748
00:51:06,799 --> 00:51:09,411
and fortunately, was quite away from MI6.
749
00:51:09,919 --> 00:51:12,049
I found the uhm
750
00:51:12,791 --> 00:51:14,627
I found the original
751
00:51:16,973 --> 00:51:17,977
What is this?
752
00:51:18,001 --> 00:51:20,818
This is the one I received
from Nigel Hawkes.
753
00:51:22,381 --> 00:51:24,900
-Nigel Hawkes sent you this transcript
-Yes.
754
00:51:24,963 --> 00:51:27,986
-This is the exact transcript that we have.
-Right.
755
00:51:28,455 --> 00:51:32,793
-Now we found in the basement
in Paris of Mossadegh's grandson. -wow!
756
00:51:32,849 --> 00:51:35,720
What is the story of Nigel Hawkes
and this transcript and you?
757
00:51:35,993 --> 00:51:38,689
Uh I have got the cover letter somewhere.
758
00:51:39,138 --> 00:51:40,154
I would love to see that.
759
00:51:43,084 --> 00:51:45,447
He was not the
kind of a specialist in this area
760
00:51:45,510 --> 00:51:48,708
and he said do what
you want with it basically.
761
00:51:49,470 --> 00:51:51,736
And how did Nigel Hawkes get hold of this?
762
00:51:52,243 --> 00:51:54,568
I....He did not tell me but I uhm
763
00:51:54,724 --> 00:51:56,216
I there was
764
00:51:56,240 --> 00:51:58,533
it was from the film makers themselves.
765
00:51:58,767 --> 00:52:01,072
That is the most crazy peculiar thing.
766
00:52:01,306 --> 00:52:06,348
Who leaked the Darbyshire transcript
from End of Empire to Nigel Hawkes
767
00:52:06,373 --> 00:52:09,295
knowing that the program they
have made does not have Darbyshire in it?
768
00:52:10,095 --> 00:52:12,205
One could speculate.
I do not know.
769
00:52:12,229 --> 00:52:15,740
What ...They they obviously knew that, so
770
00:52:16,599 --> 00:52:17,634
they wanted it out.
771
00:52:18,396 --> 00:52:19,623
No journalist
772
00:52:19,647 --> 00:52:24,275
a documentary film maker is just going
to throw their prime interview away.
773
00:52:24,724 --> 00:52:27,166
That could only have happened
if there was an intervention.
774
00:52:27,641 --> 00:52:30,668
-Yeah.
-And that is not so abnormal.
775
00:52:30,724 --> 00:52:33,493
-It happens all the time, still happens
till this day. -Wow!
776
00:52:33,728 --> 00:52:35,877
But this interview is
I think
777
00:52:36,325 --> 00:52:38,865
very important for
number of reasons. One is
778
00:52:39,236 --> 00:52:41,990
MI6 officers do not
give these kind of interviews
779
00:52:42,420 --> 00:52:44,180
about such a sensitive subject.
780
00:52:44,314 --> 00:52:46,547
So, as far as the
British government is concerned
781
00:52:46,732 --> 00:52:49,392
-the coup never happened.
They were not involved. -Yes
782
00:52:50,252 --> 00:52:51,482
And Darbyshire does not exist.
783
00:52:51,673 --> 00:52:52,869
Darbyshire does not exist.
784
00:52:53,806 --> 00:52:58,533
Uhm but obviously he does
and he is the key person.
785
00:52:58,650 --> 00:52:59,684
-Wow!
-Really.
786
00:53:00,174 --> 00:53:04,451
Uhm he was the person recruiting
the people at the highest levels.
787
00:53:04,627 --> 00:53:06,443
On the ground, he knew
788
00:53:07,166 --> 00:53:10,408
key people close the the Shah
789
00:53:11,131 --> 00:53:13,924
and he was probably the main
790
00:53:14,099 --> 00:53:15,135
organizer.
791
00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:16,579
What was your brief?
792
00:53:16,970 --> 00:53:18,970
mmm brief was...
793
00:53:18,995 --> 00:53:21,782
brief was very simple:
go out, do not inform the ambassador
794
00:53:22,042 --> 00:53:25,495
use the intelligence services to provide
you with any money you might need and
795
00:53:25,974 --> 00:53:28,969
secure the overthrow
of Mossadegh by legal or
796
00:53:29,099 --> 00:53:30,323
quasi-legal means.
797
00:53:30,532 --> 00:53:34,178
Members of parliament
were bribed with huge amounts of cash.
798
00:53:34,256 --> 00:53:36,183
vast sums of money were being spent
799
00:53:36,207 --> 00:53:37,901
and we were doing it our way bis..
800
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:40,299
uhhh biscuit tins With damn great notes.
801
00:53:40,324 --> 00:53:42,590
Well over a million and a half pounds.
802
00:53:48,554 --> 00:53:50,221
My research has brought me to Berlin
803
00:53:50,611 --> 00:53:52,344
to meet a retired naval commander
804
00:53:52,368 --> 00:53:56,575
who has spent 30 years interviewing
Iranian exiles involved in the coup.
805
00:54:02,278 --> 00:54:04,466
I am here hoping he
will let me see his footage.
806
00:55:06,705 --> 00:55:07,955
And here they are.
807
00:55:10,116 --> 00:55:13,528
-1.5 Terabytes.
-Wow!
808
00:55:15,976 --> 00:55:18,059
WD Elements
809
00:55:22,851 --> 00:55:24,752
Dr Ahmadi's private collection.
810
00:55:26,757 --> 00:55:29,622
Incredible archive of
interviews of people long dead.
811
00:55:29,986 --> 00:55:31,627
Never seen before.
812
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:36,288
These are the real
lefty intellectuals of 1950s Iran.
813
00:55:36,312 --> 00:55:39,335
Writers, actors, poets,
814
00:55:39,385 --> 00:55:41,627
journalists, medical students,
815
00:55:42,173 --> 00:55:45,091
activists, Tudeh members
816
00:55:45,453 --> 00:55:49,621
Tudeh, the communist party was
the first and only real political party
817
00:55:50,299 --> 00:55:54,466
in Iran in the sense that it had members
and it had a coherent ideology.
818
00:55:54,699 --> 00:55:59,153
It had a small group of people
who were educated and committed.
819
00:55:59,465 --> 00:56:03,085
They had some following
and small numbers in the military as well.
820
00:56:03,527 --> 00:56:05,454
But it did not have a mass base.
821
00:56:05,479 --> 00:56:10,143
And Mossadegh tolerated it
because in his view of democracy
822
00:56:10,637 --> 00:56:13,997
Iranian had a right to organize
themselves in any kind of political party
823
00:56:14,126 --> 00:56:16,808
but the fact that a communist party existed
824
00:56:17,148 --> 00:56:20,533
was already seen in some eyes
825
00:56:20,767 --> 00:56:24,648
as a symbol that Mossadegh
must secretly sympathized with it.
826
00:56:24,830 --> 00:56:27,799
Which was actually nonsense
because Mossadegh
827
00:56:28,215 --> 00:56:31,627
was an elderly feudal landlord
828
00:56:31,757 --> 00:56:36,887
who despised all communist,
Marxist, and socialist ideas.
829
00:56:38,788 --> 00:56:40,678
In July 1952,
830
00:56:40,702 --> 00:56:44,752
a power struggle between the Shah
and Mossadegh reached a crisis point
831
00:56:45,011 --> 00:56:46,886
over who should control the military.
832
00:56:54,205 --> 00:56:57,955
Giving the British the opportunity
to install a puppet prime minister.
833
00:57:08,710 --> 00:57:11,445
When Qavam was called in as prime minister,
834
00:57:11,575 --> 00:57:14,443
we naturally had high hopes that
835
00:57:14,467 --> 00:57:17,772
what we had all wanted
to see happen had come about.
836
00:57:17,796 --> 00:57:20,350
This was opposed
not only by Mossadegh supporters
837
00:57:24,647 --> 00:57:27,643
but by Tudeh the communist party in Iran.
838
00:57:28,893 --> 00:57:31,849
Tudeh members joined forces
with Mossadegh supporters
839
00:57:31,873 --> 00:57:34,361
and nationwide protests broke out.
840
00:57:36,757 --> 00:57:39,153
Troops loyal to the Shah fired on the crowd
841
00:57:39,986 --> 00:57:41,783
and 67 people were killed.
842
00:58:12,408 --> 00:58:13,542
Five days later
843
00:58:13,566 --> 00:58:16,627
Mossadegh returned to power
as prime minister.
844
00:59:28,788 --> 00:59:32,486
Telegram from the department of State
to the embassy in the United Kingdom.
845
00:59:33,033 --> 00:59:37,304
Washington July 26, 1952, 6:07 PM.
846
00:59:38,658 --> 00:59:40,950
As a result of the events of the last week
847
00:59:41,341 --> 00:59:46,262
it appears to us that Mossadegh is clearly
in a stronger position vis-à-vis the Shah
848
00:59:46,627 --> 00:59:48,580
, the Majlis and the public now
849
00:59:48,944 --> 00:59:52,434
than at any time since
the nationalization of Iranian oil
850
00:59:52,772 --> 00:59:54,440
in April 1951.
851
00:59:55,533 --> 00:59:59,492
The head court decision
coinciding with Mossadegh return to power
852
00:59:59,856 --> 01:00:02,330
will further strengthen
his public position.
853
01:00:03,111 --> 01:00:06,627
It was a setback. I think one should
probably have known that it would not work.
854
01:00:07,330 --> 01:00:09,752
But obviously it sets us back.
855
01:00:12,824 --> 01:00:14,257
All that flew off the handle.
856
01:00:16,679 --> 01:00:17,850
Uhm did not work at all.
857
01:00:19,492 --> 01:00:22,434
It was never a starter.
Julian Amery failed miserably.
858
01:00:30,820 --> 01:00:33,919
We underestimated the Mossadegh
position and so had the Shah.
859
01:00:34,699 --> 01:00:39,205
It appears that our worst fears as to the
weakness of the Shah had been confirmed.
860
01:00:39,986 --> 01:00:41,757
In the light of this analysis
861
01:00:41,940 --> 01:00:45,637
we believe it would be a great
mistake to reject Mossadegh's overture.
862
01:00:47,043 --> 01:00:48,084
Acheson
863
01:00:52,538 --> 01:00:55,299
Rejecting the advice
of the Truman administration
864
01:00:55,715 --> 01:00:58,424
Britain decided
it was time for a military coup.
865
01:00:59,049 --> 01:01:03,684
there come to the conclusion that
we cannot get rid off him politically.
866
01:01:04,153 --> 01:01:09,075
And therefore,
we need to resort to a military coup
867
01:01:09,100 --> 01:01:11,965
necessarily predicated
on the use of armed force
868
01:01:12,251 --> 01:01:14,699
led by general Fazlollah Zahedi.
869
01:01:15,090 --> 01:01:16,786
It had to be somebody loyal to the Shah
870
01:01:16,810 --> 01:01:19,231
who commanded a certain respect
amongst his fellow officers.
871
01:01:19,361 --> 01:01:22,825
And they look around
and Zahedi becomes the obvious one.
872
01:01:24,413 --> 01:01:26,679
Zahedi was a cashiered officer.
873
01:01:26,835 --> 01:01:28,516
He had had a long history.
874
01:01:28,540 --> 01:01:30,511
He had actually been
imprisoned by the allies
875
01:01:30,535 --> 01:01:33,502
as a Nazi sympathizer
during the second world war
876
01:01:33,632 --> 01:01:36,419
but he was known as anti-Mossadegh.
877
01:01:36,861 --> 01:01:40,872
And he was also known
to have many contacts in the officer core.
878
01:01:41,444 --> 01:01:45,143
Okay, interview with Ardeshir Zahedi
general Zahedi's son.
879
01:01:59,283 --> 01:02:01,444
Still very much in the royalist camp,
880
01:02:01,627 --> 01:02:04,023
Ardeshir Zahedi's loyalty to the Shah
881
01:02:04,100 --> 01:02:06,809
was rewarded by
the highest officers of the State
882
01:02:07,252 --> 01:02:09,882
including the post of ambassador to the US.
883
01:02:09,933 --> 01:02:11,553
-I think we put that one down
-Which one?
884
01:02:11,602 --> 01:02:13,776
You want to go half?
there is both on that they can be
885
01:02:13,893 --> 01:02:16,042
He fled Iran after the revolution
886
01:02:16,066 --> 01:02:19,049
and has been living
in exile for forty years in Switzerland.
887
01:02:19,131 --> 01:02:21,184
-You see, That’s too light too dark for me
-No, I...
888
01:02:21,208 --> 01:02:23,684
Ardeshir is one of the
last remaining coup plotters.
889
01:02:42,226 --> 01:02:43,736
Can I now talk about general Zahedi?
890
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,340
He was described by your own ambassador
891
01:02:46,496 --> 01:02:49,777
as being very implausible
and completely untrustworthy.
892
01:02:50,324 --> 01:02:52,304
One of the worst speculators in the country
893
01:02:52,642 --> 01:02:56,340
who had an illustrated register
of prostitute and was a known German agent.
894
01:02:57,460 --> 01:03:01,080
Why was he considered a suitable
candidate for replacing Mossadegh?
895
01:03:02,251 --> 01:03:05,808
Probably, just for the qualities of
being described by two of my colleagues.
896
01:03:05,835 --> 01:03:06,876
I do not know.
897
01:03:06,965 --> 01:03:08,841
But Mossadegh figured
out what was happening
898
01:03:08,970 --> 01:03:10,846
and he did the only
thing he could have done.
899
01:03:11,679 --> 01:03:13,163
He closed the British embassy.
900
01:03:13,293 --> 01:03:15,065
He expelled all British diplomats.
901
01:03:15,350 --> 01:03:18,007
Among those diplomats
were all the secret agents
902
01:03:18,047 --> 01:03:20,495
that were handing out the money
and were organizing the coup.
903
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:24,127
When Mossadegh broke off
relations and we all left and
904
01:03:24,777 --> 01:03:29,569
drove across Iraq, I took over running
the Persian station in exile from Cyprus.
905
01:03:29,674 --> 01:03:33,397
This is when
the British really began to panic
906
01:03:34,048 --> 01:03:36,574
because they had no assets left in Iran.
907
01:03:37,017 --> 01:03:38,036
uhh there it is. Okay.
908
01:03:38,060 --> 01:03:40,481
Could the British not have
launched that coup by themselves?
909
01:03:40,845 --> 01:03:43,059
Unfortunately, the head of MI6 at the time
910
01:03:43,268 --> 01:03:45,953
General Sinclair knew
about as much of the middle east as a
911
01:03:45,977 --> 01:03:47,434
as a 10-year-old
912
01:03:49,013 --> 01:03:50,872
and was far more
interested in cricket anyway.
913
01:03:51,095 --> 01:03:53,424
How did you communicate
with general Zahedi from that long?
914
01:03:54,439 --> 01:03:56,549
Uhh I was in basically through his son.
915
01:04:18,736 --> 01:04:21,965
We had a first meeting with the
Americans inviting their cooperation
916
01:04:21,989 --> 01:04:24,595
but after much discussion
that was turned down.
917
01:04:24,648 --> 01:04:27,200
The Truman people said
we are not interested.
918
01:04:27,224 --> 01:04:28,854
We are going to continue the way we are.
919
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:30,923
They disagreed with
the idea in the first place.
920
01:04:31,470 --> 01:04:34,257
Well, we do not know
how you get rid of prime ministers
921
01:04:34,908 --> 01:04:37,356
President Truman would not have done what
922
01:04:37,617 --> 01:04:38,893
those nations
923
01:04:39,283 --> 01:04:42,044
including our own perhaps
have attempted to do
924
01:04:42,590 --> 01:04:45,559
which is to remove heads of state by
925
01:04:46,158 --> 01:04:48,033
so called dirty tricks.
926
01:04:52,434 --> 01:04:54,387
throughout the early 1950s,
927
01:04:54,411 --> 01:04:58,345
the United States had been
fighting a disastrously hot war in Korea
928
01:04:58,369 --> 01:05:01,340
seriously considering
the use of the atomic bomb.
929
01:05:02,512 --> 01:05:04,283
In this overheated atmosphere
930
01:05:04,543 --> 01:05:07,460
general Dwight Eisenhower
campaigned for the presidency
931
01:05:07,536 --> 01:05:09,856
on the basis that he and he alone
932
01:05:09,881 --> 01:05:13,607
could solve the ongoing
crises in Korea and Iran.
933
01:05:14,882 --> 01:05:17,200
But the 1950s was a dark period
934
01:05:17,224 --> 01:05:19,673
in the United States
and in the world generally.
935
01:05:19,749 --> 01:05:22,083
we had gotten through
the war and that was great
936
01:05:22,590 --> 01:05:24,439
but even before the war ended
937
01:05:24,463 --> 01:05:27,970
there was a series level of concern
938
01:05:28,048 --> 01:05:30,820
among western strategists
and policy makers about
939
01:05:31,236 --> 01:05:34,101
the next crisis that might develop
and the next
940
01:05:34,387 --> 01:05:36,471
Nazi Germany that might rise up
941
01:05:36,495 --> 01:05:38,762
Well, the only candidate
for that was the Soviet Union.
942
01:05:38,866 --> 01:05:43,398
So, the narrative was that the world
was divided between two hostile camps.
943
01:05:43,502 --> 01:05:46,549
One led by the Soviet Union,
one led by the United States.
944
01:05:47,096 --> 01:05:50,117
There was a tide sweeping the world
945
01:05:50,141 --> 01:05:52,907
and the communists were taking
one country after another
946
01:05:52,931 --> 01:05:54,595
until they got to our borders
947
01:05:54,830 --> 01:05:57,669
and then the all possibility
of life would be over.
948
01:06:04,153 --> 01:06:07,382
You had the Red Scare,
you had spy scandals
949
01:06:07,407 --> 01:06:09,179
The Whittaker Chambers and Alger Hiss.
950
01:06:09,532 --> 01:06:11,887
, the Cambridge five.
those all kinds of thing going on
951
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,299
that made the atmosphere right
952
01:06:15,350 --> 01:06:17,955
for someone like
Joseph McCarthy to step in
953
01:06:18,371 --> 01:06:21,783
and make incredible
political hay out of all of this.
954
01:06:21,939 --> 01:06:24,543
even if there only one
communist in the State Department
955
01:06:24,567 --> 01:06:27,173
that would still be one communist too many.
956
01:06:33,645 --> 01:06:36,848
Days after the election in November 1952
957
01:06:37,134 --> 01:06:39,322
Eisenhower appointed the Dulles brothers
958
01:06:39,791 --> 01:06:41,171
as secretary of State
959
01:06:42,265 --> 01:06:43,697
and head of the CIA.
960
01:06:45,650 --> 01:06:47,982
John Foster Dulles and Allen Dulles
961
01:06:48,006 --> 01:06:50,885
were two of the most important
corporate lawyers in the United States.
962
01:06:50,909 --> 01:06:54,674
They work for this
legendary firm called Sullivan & Cromwell
963
01:06:54,700 --> 01:06:57,136
which is the most powerful
law firm in Wall Street.
964
01:06:57,761 --> 01:07:00,964
And really Wall Street firms of that nature
965
01:07:01,016 --> 01:07:04,234
are not simply financial institutions
966
01:07:04,287 --> 01:07:07,657
they are political institutions
because what they are doing as representing
967
01:07:07,967 --> 01:07:11,603
these powerful economic and
financial interests in America abroad.
968
01:07:11,628 --> 01:07:14,247
Allen Dulles brought
the Shah to New York
969
01:07:14,271 --> 01:07:16,380
to address the council
and foreign relations.
970
01:07:16,615 --> 01:07:19,194
It was a way of showing
the American foreign policy elite
971
01:07:20,001 --> 01:07:21,381
this is our friend in Iran.
972
01:07:21,563 --> 01:07:24,975
Before coming here, I had seen and learned
973
01:07:25,339 --> 01:07:29,115
of the friendship
of the United Stated for Iran.
974
01:07:30,496 --> 01:07:32,631
This friendship, the government
975
01:07:33,334 --> 01:07:34,975
and people of Iran
976
01:07:35,522 --> 01:07:40,131
reciprocate with a deep
feeling and emotion.
977
01:07:40,563 --> 01:07:45,485
So, right away there is conflicts there
between the Dulles brothers and this new
978
01:07:45,954 --> 01:07:49,496
force, this democratic force
in Iran represented by Mossadegh.
979
01:07:49,563 --> 01:07:51,292
In fact, they were so determined
980
01:07:51,814 --> 01:07:55,772
to overthrow Mossadegh and essentially
to reverse the policy of Truman
981
01:07:56,371 --> 01:07:59,887
that they did not even wait
for Eisenhower to be inaugurated
982
01:08:00,225 --> 01:08:01,777
before they had their first meeting
983
01:08:01,802 --> 01:08:03,887
with British officers
and started to plan the coup.
984
01:08:03,912 --> 01:08:06,776
In New York,
Mr. Churchill meets John Foster Dulles
985
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,506
soon to be America's secretary of State
986
01:08:08,689 --> 01:08:10,043
in the home of Bernard Baruch.
987
01:08:10,381 --> 01:08:12,651
But neither Mr. Churchill
nor Mr. Eisenhower
988
01:08:12,675 --> 01:08:14,704
will make any statements
on the discussions.
989
01:08:15,980 --> 01:08:18,819
It was my feeling then.
It remains my feeling
990
01:08:19,339 --> 01:08:21,787
that the British understood the extent of
991
01:08:21,970 --> 01:08:26,241
of paranoia in this country
concerning communism
992
01:08:26,290 --> 01:08:29,261
and that the British consciously
played on that fear.
993
01:08:29,362 --> 01:08:32,542
They reframed the terms of this dispute.
994
01:08:32,566 --> 01:08:35,329
Yeah, in cold war terms just as today
995
01:08:35,719 --> 01:08:40,694
these terms are often reframed
as a war on terror against terrorism
996
01:08:40,926 --> 01:08:43,818
and that of course becomes
the magic term that allows anything.
997
01:08:44,027 --> 01:08:45,824
Any type of intervention.
998
01:08:46,214 --> 01:08:49,184
Were you involved
in talks between MI6 and CIA?
999
01:08:50,095 --> 01:08:53,350
Yes. Washington, Cyprus, Rome, London.
1000
01:08:53,975 --> 01:08:56,632
We went there to persuade the Americans
1001
01:08:57,204 --> 01:08:59,600
that we were not going
to get anywhere with Mossadegh.
1002
01:09:00,329 --> 01:09:05,564
And that his remaining in power
was very dangerous to both our interests.
1003
01:09:06,527 --> 01:09:11,189
And also to tell them a little bit
about the means we had at our disposal
1004
01:09:11,553 --> 01:09:15,225
for changing the government.
1005
01:09:17,298 --> 01:09:19,251
In January 1953,
1006
01:09:19,485 --> 01:09:22,048
Mossadegh appointed a new chief of police
1007
01:09:22,324 --> 01:09:24,277
more loyal to him than the previous.
1008
01:09:25,032 --> 01:09:27,897
This new chief was Afshartous.
1009
01:09:28,652 --> 01:09:32,012
Police chief Afshartous
claimed to have a list of
1010
01:09:32,272 --> 01:09:36,100
Iranian officials who were
conspiring with the Americans to
1011
01:09:36,543 --> 01:09:38,236
unseat Mossadegh.
1012
01:09:38,522 --> 01:09:41,387
At the beginning of April 1953
1013
01:09:41,462 --> 01:09:44,720
CIA director Allen Dulles
approved one million dollars
1014
01:09:44,928 --> 01:09:48,861
for operation in Tehran aimed at
bringing about the fall of Mossadegh.
1015
01:09:50,007 --> 01:09:51,911
In the early months of 53
1016
01:09:51,935 --> 01:09:54,876
we thought we had enough
military units to mount something.
1017
01:10:20,788 --> 01:10:25,397
Police chief Afshartous was kidnapped
and murdered in the spring of 53.
1018
01:10:25,762 --> 01:10:29,772
And this was uhh
something that was later tied to
1019
01:10:29,981 --> 01:10:31,204
Fazlollah Zahedi
1020
01:10:32,012 --> 01:10:35,501
Were you involved
in Afshartous assassination?
1021
01:11:07,637 --> 01:11:11,204
Were you involved
in Afshartous assassination?
1022
01:11:12,558 --> 01:11:13,573
Yes.
1023
01:11:14,251 --> 01:11:17,454
But it was never the intention
that Afshartous should be killed.
1024
01:11:18,965 --> 01:11:20,230
Something went wrong.
1025
01:11:20,256 --> 01:11:23,027
The claim is that he started
1026
01:11:23,731 --> 01:11:27,637
swearing at the Shah and one
of the young officers lost his temper
1027
01:11:27,661 --> 01:11:29,772
and pulled out his gun and shot him.
1028
01:11:30,319 --> 01:11:32,089
Feelings ran very high
1029
01:11:32,272 --> 01:11:35,163
Afshartus made derogatory
comments about the Shah and
1030
01:11:35,970 --> 01:11:38,184
the young officer
pulled out a gun and shot him.
1031
01:11:38,574 --> 01:11:41,777
But his body was very badly tortured, so
1032
01:11:42,116 --> 01:11:46,387
it does not look like a spur of the moment
when your body is left
1033
01:11:46,908 --> 01:11:48,835
with marks of torture.
1034
01:11:48,859 --> 01:11:51,569
Many issues of Bakhtar Emrooz.
1035
01:11:51,751 --> 01:11:53,913
Bakhtar Emrooz was uhh
1036
01:11:54,277 --> 01:11:58,262
the main newspaper of supporting
the national front and the government.
1037
01:11:58,965 --> 01:12:00,475
This is Afshartous by the way.
1038
01:12:01,256 --> 01:12:02,271
Oh my god!
1039
01:12:03,965 --> 01:12:05,293
ukh ukh ooof
1040
01:12:05,447 --> 01:12:10,761
This was also I think part of the CIA, MI6
way of destabilizing the government.
1041
01:12:11,569 --> 01:12:13,079
Because not only they
1042
01:12:13,521 --> 01:12:17,349
tortured and murdered him
but dumped his body quite visibly,
1043
01:12:17,374 --> 01:12:19,668
so it would be publicly known that
1044
01:12:19,900 --> 01:12:23,600
the government could not
even protect its tough chief of police.
1045
01:12:23,704 --> 01:12:27,338
It was a big event.
It was a kind of a crisis at the time.
1046
01:12:27,362 --> 01:12:30,761
It was certainly a bad sign for Mossadegh.
1047
01:12:30,891 --> 01:12:35,085
Is Darbyshire's admission to involve him
in the assassination of the chief of police
1048
01:12:35,109 --> 01:12:37,109
Is that the biggest
thing in that transcript?
1049
01:12:38,070 --> 01:12:39,485
Besides the fact that he has
1050
01:12:40,241 --> 01:12:42,741
he has openly admitted
the British involved in the coup
1051
01:12:43,288 --> 01:12:44,538
uh Yes.
1052
01:12:45,813 --> 01:12:48,808
-Pretty horrific picture to
put on the front page. -this as well.
1053
01:12:48,965 --> 01:12:50,267
So, they tied him up,
1054
01:12:50,579 --> 01:12:53,444
-strangled him, and shot him
-Yeah.
1055
01:13:10,762 --> 01:13:13,288
This was a very
important element in the coup
1056
01:13:13,312 --> 01:13:16,308
because Mossadegh never
managed to replace him properly.
1057
01:13:16,462 --> 01:13:18,496
He replaced him with people who were
1058
01:13:19,329 --> 01:13:20,891
linked to the coup plotters.
1059
01:13:26,022 --> 01:13:28,916
Zahedi avoided arrest
and I was involved in protecting him
1060
01:13:28,940 --> 01:13:30,606
as he moved from house to house.
1061
01:13:34,512 --> 01:13:37,142
The plan for the final stages of the coup
1062
01:13:37,272 --> 01:13:39,798
written by
Norman Darbyshire and Donald Wilber
1063
01:13:40,683 --> 01:13:43,053
was approved by Eisenhower and Churchill
1064
01:13:43,470 --> 01:13:46,230
on July 11th, 1953.
1065
01:13:48,079 --> 01:13:50,840
It was code named operation AJAX
1066
01:13:51,282 --> 01:13:53,158
after the popular household Cleanser.
1067
01:13:53,964 --> 01:13:54,980
225
1068
01:13:55,345 --> 01:13:58,809
The first step was for agent
Stephen Meade and Norman Darbyshire
1069
01:13:58,913 --> 01:14:01,335
to track down the Shah's sister Ashraf
1070
01:14:01,595 --> 01:14:02,871
exiled in Paris.
1071
01:14:03,079 --> 01:14:07,142
Apparently, the British ambassador and
the American ambassador had
1072
01:14:07,296 --> 01:14:10,819
gone to see the Shah
on several occasions to convince him
1073
01:14:10,891 --> 01:14:14,589
to give the okay
to this overthrow of Mossadegh.
1074
01:14:15,527 --> 01:14:17,353
Now, whether he did not want to do it
1075
01:14:17,377 --> 01:14:19,606
or did not want to upset the apple cart.
I do not know.
1076
01:14:19,632 --> 01:14:22,246
But in any event
he had refused up to that point.
1077
01:14:22,270 --> 01:14:24,610
Well, the Shah was very
young when he was put on the throne
1078
01:14:24,635 --> 01:14:26,570
and he was knocked from pillar to post.
1079
01:14:27,506 --> 01:14:29,317
He always listened to the advice
1080
01:14:29,341 --> 01:14:32,432
from the last person in
and that was often the advice he took.
1081
01:14:32,510 --> 01:14:35,553
someone either British
or American I am not sure
1082
01:14:35,684 --> 01:14:39,147
had the idea to get his twin sister Ashraf
1083
01:14:39,615 --> 01:14:42,611
with whom he was closer
than anyone else on the world
1084
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,996
to convince him to do this
1085
01:14:46,020 --> 01:14:48,235
in order to save his life and his country.
1086
01:14:48,311 --> 01:14:51,386
Princess Ashraf very astute person,
clever, very intelligent.
1087
01:14:52,298 --> 01:14:55,788
People say much more brave
and much intelligent than her twin brother.
1088
01:14:56,194 --> 01:14:58,121
The Americans say she wore the pants.
1089
01:14:58,277 --> 01:15:02,730
In late June or July,
I was called to locate princess Ashraf
1090
01:15:03,381 --> 01:15:04,892
and convince her
1091
01:15:05,412 --> 01:15:09,553
to involve herself in the
then upcoming coup.
1092
01:15:09,917 --> 01:15:12,652
I went to London and
met with my British counterpart.
1093
01:15:13,094 --> 01:15:15,542
Your British counterpart
was in fact Norman Darbyshire
1094
01:15:15,567 --> 01:15:18,213
-Yes. -Could you tell us something
about the man Norman Darbyshire?
1095
01:15:18,251 --> 01:15:21,923
Norman Darbyshire
was a very competent individual
1096
01:15:21,947 --> 01:15:23,968
He was a
had a lot of experience.
1097
01:15:23,992 --> 01:15:26,585
He spoke Farsi fluently, French,
1098
01:15:27,028 --> 01:15:29,085
and whatever the languages I do not know.
1099
01:15:45,101 --> 01:15:48,227
Well, you know the
old wartime habit of using the BBC.
1100
01:15:48,251 --> 01:15:50,603
Well, we persuaded them
and gave her the message that
1101
01:15:50,629 --> 01:15:54,711
that if you do this, you will notice
a slight variation on the presentation
1102
01:15:54,735 --> 01:15:56,782
and that once the Shah heard that
1103
01:15:56,806 --> 01:15:59,945
he himself would know that it was official.
1104
01:16:00,648 --> 01:16:02,862
we wanted to hammer it home that it was
1105
01:16:03,331 --> 01:16:05,752
and therefore we used the BBC.
1106
01:16:12,706 --> 01:16:15,093
We made it clear that we would pay expenses
1107
01:16:15,118 --> 01:16:17,020
and the moment
I produced a great wad of notes,
1108
01:16:17,732 --> 01:16:18,956
her eyes alighted.
1109
01:16:18,980 --> 01:16:21,507
At one point in the negotiations
1110
01:16:21,534 --> 01:16:25,492
she said "In the event
that this does not go as plan,
1111
01:16:25,596 --> 01:16:27,774
who is going to take care of my brother?"
1112
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:29,727
In the matter
to what she has become accustomed
1113
01:16:30,544 --> 01:16:33,044
This brought dead silence
into our little group
1114
01:16:33,658 --> 01:16:35,391
because as you can imagine
1115
01:16:35,415 --> 01:16:38,554
neither Norman nor I
had been briefed on such a question
1116
01:16:38,578 --> 01:16:40,090
either in Washington or London.
1117
01:16:40,221 --> 01:16:42,383
So, I thought if this is what it takes
1118
01:16:42,539 --> 01:16:45,641
to get her to
implicate herself in this thing, then
1119
01:16:45,665 --> 01:16:47,669
so be it so, I said yes,
1120
01:16:48,372 --> 01:16:49,483
we are prepared to do that.
1121
01:16:49,561 --> 01:16:51,835
She had not been
out the room long that day
1122
01:16:51,937 --> 01:16:53,601
when Norman turned to me and said,
1123
01:16:53,625 --> 01:16:54,903
"now look, old buddy."
1124
01:16:54,927 --> 01:16:57,747
says, "You have not committed
her majesty's government to this."
1125
01:16:57,929 --> 01:17:00,169
And I said no, I am
I realize that.
1126
01:17:00,351 --> 01:17:02,955
And he said, "Do you really
have the authority to do this?"
1127
01:17:03,346 --> 01:17:04,778
and I said I have no idea.
1128
01:17:04,802 --> 01:17:07,293
And he said, "Well if I did that,
I would probably be sacked."
1129
01:17:07,317 --> 01:17:09,924
and I said
well, Norman I just might be.
1130
01:17:10,966 --> 01:17:12,580
Well, she was quite a flighty woman
1131
01:17:12,711 --> 01:17:14,742
and Steve, who fancied anything,
1132
01:17:15,471 --> 01:17:16,695
fancied her.
1133
01:17:17,945 --> 01:17:18,976
eventually we said
1134
01:17:19,001 --> 01:17:22,075
here is your first-class ticket and you
are booked for the day after tomorrow
1135
01:17:22,101 --> 01:17:25,288
and this time I did let her get her hands
on the money.
1136
01:17:33,882 --> 01:17:37,528
Ashraf flew to Tehran
from Paris and delivered the letter
1137
01:17:37,763 --> 01:17:41,773
which was a request for
the Shah's signature authorizing the coup
1138
01:17:42,267 --> 01:17:45,263
and appointing Zahedi
as the new prime minister.
1139
01:17:49,455 --> 01:17:51,096
Six days ahead of Ashraf
1140
01:17:51,460 --> 01:17:54,299
Kermit Roosevelt
the CIA's Middle East chief
1141
01:17:54,689 --> 01:17:56,643
was on his way to Tehran.
1142
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,471
Kermit Roosevelt was Harvard educated,
1143
01:18:00,495 --> 01:18:02,762
came out of the American elite
1144
01:18:02,786 --> 01:18:05,549
interestingly enough
his grandfather had been Theodor Roosevelt
1145
01:18:05,573 --> 01:18:08,622
which is in some ways
a wonderful historical quirk
1146
01:18:08,646 --> 01:18:12,398
since it was Theodor Roosevelt
who led the United States
1147
01:18:12,423 --> 01:18:14,038
into the regime change era.
1148
01:18:14,063 --> 01:18:17,841
Roosevelt of course knew nothing
about Iran, did not know Persian.
1149
01:18:18,023 --> 01:18:19,511
He was more like uhh
1150
01:18:19,535 --> 01:18:23,023
adventurist who was sent
to work on the ground.
1151
01:18:23,191 --> 01:18:26,043
A lot of this was done by MI6. The coup
1152
01:18:26,695 --> 01:18:30,367
they did not actually
carry it out on the ground in the end
1153
01:18:30,391 --> 01:18:32,215
but the actual ideas, planning,
1154
01:18:32,632 --> 01:18:36,590
the recruitment of agents, etc.,
was largely the work of MI6.
1155
01:18:36,877 --> 01:18:40,471
The actual running of the coup
from our side was my responsibility.
1156
01:18:40,861 --> 01:18:43,622
Perhaps, one of the reasons why
Darbyshire actually
1157
01:18:44,377 --> 01:18:47,216
did this interview
revealed it was because they were
1158
01:18:47,892 --> 01:18:51,409
not happy with the Americans taking
credit for everything cause Roosevelt
1159
01:18:52,060 --> 01:18:56,200
did rewrite a note history afterwards
where he takes credit for a lot of this.
1160
01:18:57,215 --> 01:19:00,991
Roosevelt crossed the
border from Iraq as James Lockridge
1161
01:19:01,825 --> 01:19:06,018
using a forged passport
and carrying suitcases full of cash.
1162
01:19:13,413 --> 01:19:15,914
It is actually an interesting project
because you ask yourself
1163
01:19:16,564 --> 01:19:18,700
how do you do this?!
So, suppose you are assigned
1164
01:19:18,830 --> 01:19:21,226
overthrow the government
of the country you just arrived in.
1165
01:19:21,668 --> 01:19:25,211
What do you do on Monday morning
9 o’clock first day? How do you start?
1166
01:19:26,070 --> 01:19:29,248
Well, Kermit Roosevelt started by
1167
01:19:29,273 --> 01:19:32,320
buying off newspaper editors
and columnists and journalists.
1168
01:19:32,344 --> 01:19:33,960
And he had remarkable success.
1169
01:19:33,984 --> 01:19:37,348
They were running articles
against Mossadegh day after day.
1170
01:19:37,372 --> 01:19:39,924
Mossadegh was a Jew, a communist,
1171
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,398
homosexual, he was a British agent,
1172
01:19:42,528 --> 01:19:44,820
anything bad you could say about him.
In fact,
1173
01:19:45,705 --> 01:19:49,273
they needed so much anti-Mossadegh copy,
they could not even produce it themselves.
1174
01:19:49,481 --> 01:19:51,903
And the CIA back in Washington
1175
01:19:51,927 --> 01:19:55,653
assigned some of its own officers
to write anti-Mossadegh propaganda.
1176
01:19:55,809 --> 01:19:59,612
And any article that I would write.
It gave you something of a sense of power.
1177
01:19:59,976 --> 01:20:04,065
would appear almost instantly
the next day in Iranian press
1178
01:20:04,767 --> 01:20:08,961
and they were designed to show
Mossadegh as a communist collaborator
1179
01:20:09,638 --> 01:20:10,887
and as a fanatic.
1180
01:20:15,966 --> 01:20:17,866
The timing of the operation itself
1181
01:20:18,882 --> 01:20:20,028
what were you waiting for?
1182
01:20:20,052 --> 01:20:22,606
uhm very simple.
Signature of the Shah.
1183
01:20:22,867 --> 01:20:26,044
Timing was solely
affected by the signature of the Shah.
1184
01:20:26,435 --> 01:20:28,740
The original coup plan was based on
1185
01:20:28,764 --> 01:20:31,669
the fact that the Shah
had the ability to dismiss a government.
1186
01:20:32,814 --> 01:20:36,226
And therefore, what was
going to take place was that
1187
01:20:36,694 --> 01:20:38,870
an officer in the army would take a
1188
01:20:39,090 --> 01:20:41,617
Firman, a notice to Mossadegh
1189
01:20:42,215 --> 01:20:44,438
and inform him that he had been replaced
1190
01:20:44,462 --> 01:20:46,903
and that general Zahedi
would become prime minister.
1191
01:20:47,003 --> 01:20:49,059
It was understood that
Mossadegh would resist.
1192
01:20:49,163 --> 01:20:51,355
He would say
I do not accept being fired
1193
01:20:51,380 --> 01:20:53,712
by some soldiers
coming to me in the middle of the night.
1194
01:20:53,747 --> 01:20:54,866
He would then be arrested
1195
01:20:55,231 --> 01:20:57,850
and the next day it would be announced
that he had
1196
01:20:57,874 --> 01:21:00,023
resisted royal orders
1197
01:21:00,466 --> 01:21:03,096
and now there was a new regime in power.
1198
01:21:04,997 --> 01:21:06,612
This is Mossa Mehran.
1199
01:21:07,861 --> 01:21:11,117
On the day of the coup
he was Mossadegh's head of security.
1200
01:21:13,044 --> 01:21:15,075
For most of my Iranian witnesses
1201
01:21:15,283 --> 01:21:19,555
the event of 1953
are as fresh as if they happened yesterday.
1202
01:21:31,820 --> 01:21:34,893
Timing is always
of the essence and secrecy.
1203
01:21:35,846 --> 01:21:37,523
hmm Persians are not very good at either.
1204
01:21:37,940 --> 01:21:41,377
With every passing day word got around
and eventually word got to Mossadegh.
1205
01:21:41,585 --> 01:21:43,643
He heard it because they had a
1206
01:21:43,981 --> 01:21:46,794
junior officer was a Tudeh member
1207
01:21:47,185 --> 01:21:49,346
in the Imperial Guard.
1208
01:22:11,091 --> 01:22:13,136
We started talking to the Rashidians about
1209
01:22:13,251 --> 01:22:16,116
mounting the coup probably
immediately after we had departed.
1210
01:22:16,533 --> 01:22:19,115
They were an extraordinary
bunch of brothers because none of them
1211
01:22:19,140 --> 01:22:20,169
really spoke English.
1212
01:22:21,065 --> 01:22:23,643
They have been brought up believing
the British were very good.
1213
01:22:24,138 --> 01:22:27,575
They were late 30s, early 40s
fascinated by the idea of
1214
01:22:27,784 --> 01:22:31,091
politics altogether and intrigued by
being in contact with the British
1215
01:22:31,404 --> 01:22:34,632
and delighted to take our money
for something they believed in themselves.
1216
01:22:34,997 --> 01:22:37,173
we had issued the Rashidians with
1217
01:22:37,330 --> 01:22:40,101
radio sets to maintain contact by wireless.
1218
01:22:40,125 --> 01:22:43,670
They had a very wide range of contacts
1219
01:22:43,983 --> 01:22:45,780
particularly in the Bazaar.
1220
01:22:46,327 --> 01:22:49,478
They also had contacts with the Ayatollahs
1221
01:22:49,791 --> 01:22:51,889
and a little bit of rent-a-crowd
1222
01:22:52,423 --> 01:22:53,463
sort of provided
1223
01:22:53,775 --> 01:22:58,332
a strong popular demonstration
against Mossadegh and in favor of the Shah.
1224
01:22:58,540 --> 01:23:01,848
These are the tough boys and Ayatollah
Kashani controlled some of them.
1225
01:23:04,062 --> 01:23:07,187
You could use them as a street mob
with the blessing of a Kashani and then
1226
01:23:08,202 --> 01:23:09,348
the more the merrier.
1227
01:25:33,176 --> 01:25:35,467
When it first went wrong,
I heard about it from Roosevelt
1228
01:25:35,702 --> 01:25:37,968
and from the radio from the RAshidians.
1229
01:25:45,467 --> 01:25:49,313
First thing I heard about the coup
was on the radio there at ford pinning.
1230
01:25:49,338 --> 01:25:51,526
There had been an attempted coup in Iran
1231
01:25:51,709 --> 01:25:53,115
and it had failed miserably.
1232
01:25:54,329 --> 01:25:57,688
And so, I gulped once
and I looked at my wife and I said
1233
01:25:57,948 --> 01:26:00,605
how would you like to have
the Shah as a permanent house guest?
1234
01:26:01,308 --> 01:26:03,328
She had no idea what
I was talking about, you know.
1235
01:26:05,552 --> 01:26:06,880
Here it is.
There you go.
1236
01:26:06,932 --> 01:26:09,927
It is from the 16th of August 1953
1237
01:26:10,501 --> 01:26:14,876
is the first news
of the attempted coup by Nasiri
1238
01:27:04,380 --> 01:27:06,751
Attention is focused
once again on the Middle East
1239
01:27:06,775 --> 01:27:09,615
where events in Iran
have taken a dramatic double twist.
1240
01:27:10,266 --> 01:27:12,063
Forced to flee his palace in Tehran,
1241
01:27:12,242 --> 01:27:14,485
the Shah and his queen arrive in Rome
1242
01:27:14,509 --> 01:27:18,417
after an alleged attempt by
the Imperial guard to arrest Dr Mossadegh
1243
01:27:18,625 --> 01:27:22,219
and the refusal by the Shah to
dissolve parliament at Mossadegh's request.
1244
01:27:33,287 --> 01:27:35,437
There was
I think great contempt
1245
01:27:35,461 --> 01:27:37,766
for the Shah within CIA circles
1246
01:27:37,790 --> 01:27:39,790
that he
they thought he was a coward.
1247
01:27:40,074 --> 01:27:44,563
Of course, he fled his own country
with his wife queen Soraya.
1248
01:27:44,691 --> 01:27:46,464
They flee to Rome,
1249
01:27:46,488 --> 01:27:49,525
they take shelter
at a very luxurious hotel there
1250
01:27:49,549 --> 01:27:51,073
courtesy of the CIA
1251
01:27:51,253 --> 01:27:55,995
The hotel Excelsior which was known as the
sort of La Dolce Vita hotel at the time
1252
01:27:56,097 --> 01:27:58,964
where Hollywood celebrities
stayed there in the hotel
1253
01:27:59,432 --> 01:28:03,756
and so, they were
not exactly suffering in exile.
1254
01:28:04,589 --> 01:28:07,089
So, there is great intrigue
going on at Rome
1255
01:28:07,113 --> 01:28:11,255
as events in Iran
are quickly spinning out of control.
1256
01:28:18,651 --> 01:28:21,739
Once it became clear
that the project had failed
1257
01:28:21,763 --> 01:28:23,156
and Mossadegh was triumphed,
1258
01:28:24,042 --> 01:28:26,516
the CIA actually
came to a conclusion in a meeting
1259
01:28:27,011 --> 01:28:30,631
Mossadegh has won and we are just going
to have to find a way to live with him.
1260
01:28:30,655 --> 01:28:32,792
Basically, they decided this is a done deal
1261
01:28:33,182 --> 01:28:35,917
we need to pull our forces out of there.
1262
01:28:36,125 --> 01:28:38,209
And so, they instruct Kermit Roosevelt
1263
01:28:38,703 --> 01:28:41,360
to wrap it all up and get out of there.
1264
01:28:41,516 --> 01:28:44,876
We must regret that
we cannot consider going on fighting.
1265
01:28:45,526 --> 01:28:48,600
Operations against
Mossadegh should be discontinued.
1266
01:28:49,224 --> 01:28:51,334
The Americans were very new to the game
1267
01:28:51,358 --> 01:28:54,953
and certainly we would have
hoped to have had more influence.
1268
01:28:55,657 --> 01:28:57,636
I think that I am
right in saying that we had a
1269
01:28:58,261 --> 01:29:00,761
a little more experience
in Iran than they had.
1270
01:29:01,156 --> 01:29:03,385
But at very precise moments
1271
01:29:03,409 --> 01:29:05,532
particularly what the call black Sunday
1272
01:29:05,924 --> 01:29:09,205
when Roosevelt who
was the key person for the CIA.
1273
01:29:09,413 --> 01:29:11,262
He kind of lost his nerve.
1274
01:29:11,991 --> 01:29:15,846
It was the MI6 officers in Cyprus
particularly Darbyshire
1275
01:29:16,601 --> 01:29:18,685
who kind of said let's go ahead.
1276
01:29:19,049 --> 01:29:20,716
And they did so without
1277
01:29:21,392 --> 01:29:22,943
the say so of the foreign office.
1278
01:29:22,968 --> 01:29:25,770
I said all along that we should
have back up in case something did leak
1279
01:29:25,796 --> 01:29:27,188
or go wrong and which it did.
1280
01:29:28,126 --> 01:29:31,199
And this is when it was decided
to bring the boys out onto the streets.
1281
01:29:34,845 --> 01:29:38,386
It was the Rashidians who provided
people to infiltrate the demonstrations.
1282
01:29:39,246 --> 01:29:41,538
I was personally
giving orders and directing.
1283
01:29:51,642 --> 01:29:53,361
They were provocatories
1284
01:29:53,855 --> 01:29:57,657
but we had more than just provocatories.
We had a lot of Shah troops
1285
01:29:57,970 --> 01:30:02,970
who actually acted as if they were
Tudeh people throwing rocks at mosques
1286
01:30:02,994 --> 01:30:06,459
and knock over
the statues of the previous regime.
1287
01:30:08,166 --> 01:30:10,315
We were anxious to show the world that
1288
01:30:10,339 --> 01:30:13,453
that this was a spontaneous
coup against Mossadegh
1289
01:30:13,606 --> 01:30:17,177
and that Mossadegh
had then used the initial coup
1290
01:30:17,201 --> 01:30:19,391
to use it as a coup against the Shah.
1291
01:31:10,499 --> 01:31:13,650
-You actually had held a conference
at the hills of Vanak? -Yes, I did.
1292
01:31:22,261 --> 01:31:24,386
What is the message
that you were giving to the press?
1293
01:31:59,588 --> 01:32:01,879
The shah has just landed in Rome.
1294
01:32:03,207 --> 01:32:04,263
What was the situation?
1295
01:32:04,287 --> 01:32:06,879
was he coming back?
wasn't he coming back? Nobody knew.
1296
01:32:07,452 --> 01:32:09,718
But all these discussions were going on
1297
01:32:10,446 --> 01:32:13,312
until the 19th of August.
1298
01:32:14,144 --> 01:32:16,801
And there was not
an instance of imminent danger.
1299
01:32:18,337 --> 01:32:19,796
Not until it was too late.
1300
01:32:23,103 --> 01:32:25,518
In the morning of the 19th of August
1301
01:32:25,542 --> 01:32:29,467
the editorial team were on their way
to the Bakhtar Emrooz offices
1302
01:32:29,491 --> 01:32:31,264
to prepare the issue for that day.
1303
01:32:31,289 --> 01:32:33,549
They arrive there
and it was a smoldering ruin.
1304
01:32:33,940 --> 01:32:37,553
Once you start burning newspaper offices
which are known to be pro-Mossadegh,
1305
01:32:37,577 --> 01:32:40,469
the mob starts coming out
and attacks the demonstrators and then
1306
01:32:41,017 --> 01:32:43,725
it snowballs which
is what we intended to do.
1307
01:32:44,819 --> 01:32:45,991
It was the correct
1308
01:32:46,798 --> 01:32:50,418
It was the correct psychological
reading of the Persian mob character.
1309
01:33:38,048 --> 01:33:42,058
That mob that came into north Tehran
and was decisive in the overthrow
1310
01:33:42,267 --> 01:33:44,819
was a mercenary mob.
They had no ideology.
1311
01:33:50,495 --> 01:33:53,699
And that mob was
paid for by American dollars.
1312
01:33:53,907 --> 01:33:57,396
As they got nearer,
it was rather frightening.
1313
01:33:57,420 --> 01:33:59,193
I was 16 years old
1314
01:34:00,496 --> 01:34:04,818
I went a little bit to the right
till the walls of the British embassy
1315
01:34:05,574 --> 01:34:07,631
and uhm there
1316
01:34:07,970 --> 01:34:09,870
someone had obviously been killed.
1317
01:34:36,189 --> 01:34:38,428
We saw tanks coming from
1318
01:34:38,949 --> 01:34:42,178
the north end of the road.
1319
01:34:42,202 --> 01:34:46,344
They came in and pulled up
outside my uncle's house.
1320
01:34:52,933 --> 01:34:55,719
At that time, the gate was shut
1321
01:34:56,188 --> 01:34:58,401
and the guards were
1322
01:34:58,715 --> 01:35:00,563
were holding back the people and
1323
01:35:00,980 --> 01:35:03,141
telling them to move away.
1324
01:38:24,624 --> 01:38:25,641
It worked.
1325
01:38:55,875 --> 01:38:58,636
With 45 million dollars in American aid
1326
01:38:58,764 --> 01:39:03,193
the Shah quickly set about neutralizing
the opposition of Mossadegh supporters
1327
01:39:03,689 --> 01:39:06,045
and putting Mossadegh himself on trial.
1328
01:39:10,121 --> 01:39:12,907
In the military court at Tehran
on trial for treason
1329
01:39:12,956 --> 01:39:14,838
the Persian ex-premier Dr Mossadegh
1330
01:39:14,862 --> 01:39:16,909
demonstrates that he knows
how to make an entrance.
1331
01:39:17,204 --> 01:39:19,600
With the coat over
the pajamas Mossadegh seem calm
1332
01:39:19,886 --> 01:39:23,818
The 17 charges include high treason
and trying to overthrow the Shah's regime.
1333
01:39:24,418 --> 01:39:26,814
A strange man up against as it last.
1334
01:39:29,443 --> 01:39:31,319
My uncle was very fraid.
1335
01:39:32,073 --> 01:39:33,297
Very fraid and very dejected.
1336
01:39:34,287 --> 01:39:35,578
He was sure they gonna kill him.
1337
01:39:36,724 --> 01:39:37,870
The Shah wanted to kill him.
1338
01:39:38,064 --> 01:39:41,891
Was not there an army officer captured
with membership list of the Tudeh party?
1339
01:39:42,149 --> 01:39:44,756
Yes, that was when
the great executions took place.
1340
01:39:49,521 --> 01:39:53,219
And from there on
the Shah and the CIA
1341
01:39:53,243 --> 01:39:54,782
they introduce in the country
1342
01:39:55,144 --> 01:39:58,480
one of the worst elements SAVAK.
1343
01:39:59,313 --> 01:40:03,324
SAVAK was held up as one of the
most brutal secret services in the world.
1344
01:40:03,741 --> 01:40:07,204
It was clear to the coup project leaders
1345
01:40:07,228 --> 01:40:10,849
and to Allen Dulles that
a harsh secret service was required
1346
01:40:11,162 --> 01:40:15,057
and the Americans began
the process of establishing SAVAK.
1347
01:40:15,083 --> 01:40:18,027
I was not allowed to go back immediately
when we picked up relations again
1348
01:40:18,052 --> 01:40:20,868
because the Americans were trying
to cash in very quickly
1349
01:40:20,892 --> 01:40:22,907
and establish a special
relationship with the Shah.
1350
01:40:23,298 --> 01:40:24,313
227
1351
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:28,271
could you tell us what
the president's mission entailed?
1352
01:40:29,730 --> 01:40:34,053
The mission that uh for which I was
selected theoretically by the president
1353
01:40:34,261 --> 01:40:38,141
was to go to Iran and assist the Shah
1354
01:40:39,131 --> 01:40:41,866
after he had regained
power to stay in power.
1355
01:40:43,922 --> 01:40:45,813
Can you explain
what that actually would entail?
1356
01:40:46,475 --> 01:40:47,569
Well, it was
1357
01:40:47,751 --> 01:40:51,969
to help train his
counterintelligence agencies in Iran.
1358
01:40:52,230 --> 01:40:54,314
What do that involve?
could you give some detail?
1359
01:40:59,314 --> 01:41:00,537
Not really.
1360
01:41:01,761 --> 01:41:03,702
-Okay
-uhm yes
1361
01:41:04,001 --> 01:41:05,015
Okay.
Yep.
1362
01:41:05,169 --> 01:41:06,829
What about SAVAK and all that?
1363
01:41:19,355 --> 01:41:20,370
Soon after
1364
01:41:20,422 --> 01:41:23,808
just a few years later they handed
it over to Israel and the Mossad.
1365
01:41:24,069 --> 01:41:26,178
And that became the force that shaped
1366
01:41:27,037 --> 01:41:28,574
SAVAK over a longer period.
1367
01:41:28,676 --> 01:41:32,506
Also, security activity
we had security relations with Iran.
1368
01:41:32,896 --> 01:41:35,032
We sold them military equipment.
1369
01:41:35,267 --> 01:41:37,350
They were interested in common developments.
1370
01:41:37,740 --> 01:41:40,475
That developed a great
interest between us and Iran
1371
01:41:40,814 --> 01:41:43,444
which were a great strategic impact.
1372
01:41:46,438 --> 01:41:49,303
After they changed
their minds from death sentence
1373
01:41:49,537 --> 01:41:52,715
then somebody decided on a 3 years.
1374
01:41:52,949 --> 01:41:55,553
of solitary confinement
in the military prison.
1375
01:41:57,142 --> 01:41:58,730
With Mossadegh behind bars
1376
01:41:58,939 --> 01:42:02,480
Anglo-Iranian was
renamed British Petroleum (BP)
1377
01:42:02,871 --> 01:42:05,370
and now had to share Iranian oil
1378
01:42:05,394 --> 01:42:08,053
with a handful of
American and European companies.
1379
01:42:08,964 --> 01:42:10,501
BP did not come out on top
1380
01:42:10,579 --> 01:42:12,219
but they got
they came back with a
1381
01:42:12,767 --> 01:42:15,969
a major share
in the international consortium
1382
01:42:15,995 --> 01:42:18,001
which was subsequently set up.
1383
01:42:18,025 --> 01:42:20,995
And I suppose from my
own point of view I would have probably
1384
01:42:21,201 --> 01:42:22,740
sat there for another ten years
1385
01:42:23,053 --> 01:42:26,491
in that boiling heat instead
of doing some much more interesting jobs
1386
01:42:27,168 --> 01:42:28,990
which I was allowed to do later.
1387
01:42:49,606 --> 01:42:53,668
Then Dr Mossadegh was moved
from the military prison to Ahmadabad
1388
01:42:54,293 --> 01:42:56,715
his place in exile
for the rest of his life.
1389
01:42:58,016 --> 01:43:00,283
Without any order.
1390
01:43:00,307 --> 01:43:05,282
without any trial.
without any uhm judicial authority
1391
01:43:06,324 --> 01:43:07,340
for that move.
1392
01:43:08,772 --> 01:43:11,923
It was totally illegal
and under the Shah's orders.
1393
01:43:12,418 --> 01:43:15,465
What was his state of mind
when he was on the house arrest?
1394
01:43:16,949 --> 01:43:20,960
he was very dejected.
I mean you know this is a great intellect.
1395
01:43:21,871 --> 01:43:23,798
uhm in his later life
1396
01:43:25,751 --> 01:43:29,189
was nothing.
In total solitude.
1397
01:43:29,658 --> 01:43:32,626
At the beginning there
was not even television at the beginning.
1398
01:43:33,668 --> 01:43:36,481
To have a doctor
you had to ask the Shah's permission.
1399
01:43:37,288 --> 01:43:40,517
Everything. To have a newspaper
you had to have the Shahs permission.
1400
01:43:41,116 --> 01:43:43,772
For a man like that to sit only
1401
01:43:44,241 --> 01:43:46,376
and stare out into this nothingness
1402
01:43:47,913 --> 01:43:50,829
not to have any
communication with his friends
1403
01:43:50,853 --> 01:43:52,470
with his world
with his political world.
1404
01:43:52,598 --> 01:43:56,013
Suddenly, to be cut off
from all had striven for
1405
01:43:56,037 --> 01:43:58,069
for 50 years or more.
1406
01:43:59,579 --> 01:44:01,142
It was disaster.
1407
01:44:01,166 --> 01:44:03,641
He would just
everyday he said I just want to die.
1408
01:44:13,251 --> 01:44:17,574
After the coup was over,
there was a meeting in the white house
1409
01:44:17,599 --> 01:44:21,506
at which Kermit Roosevelt
presented an account of what he had done
1410
01:44:22,262 --> 01:44:26,845
to the president and
other very senior US government officials.
1411
01:44:27,678 --> 01:44:32,418
I think Eisenhower in particular
was astonished and deeply impressed.
1412
01:44:33,772 --> 01:44:35,751
President Eisenhower as a general
1413
01:44:36,376 --> 01:44:40,595
had had to send
kids off to die by the thousands.
1414
01:44:41,507 --> 01:44:45,126
Now, he sees
you can change an entire regime
1415
01:44:45,699 --> 01:44:49,137
and only a couple of hundred people die
and none of them are Americans
1416
01:44:49,161 --> 01:44:50,412
and it is very cheap.
1417
01:44:50,696 --> 01:44:53,694
So, he would have seen
covert action as a peace project.
1418
01:44:53,718 --> 01:44:57,522
An internal report
in the CIA about the coup in Iran
1419
01:44:57,546 --> 01:44:59,891
later calls it
a day that should never have ended.
1420
01:44:59,915 --> 01:45:03,824
Its consequences were
so significant on so many levels.
1421
01:45:04,267 --> 01:45:06,949
This had a very negative effect on
1422
01:45:06,973 --> 01:45:11,063
on Iran's attempts at building a democracy.
1423
01:45:11,350 --> 01:45:13,668
It also had an impact on
1424
01:45:13,744 --> 01:45:16,677
the thinking of
US policy makers and US strategists
1425
01:45:16,701 --> 01:45:19,449
and particularly
covert operations planners.
1426
01:45:19,707 --> 01:45:23,252
Because it was seen as a big success,
this opened the world to them.
1427
01:45:23,432 --> 01:45:26,247
So, of course they were emboldened
to do this yet again
1428
01:45:26,271 --> 01:45:29,190
just the following year
1954 in Guatemala
1429
01:45:29,214 --> 01:45:33,018
when they overthrew the democratically
elected government of Jacobo Arbenz.
1430
01:45:33,670 --> 01:45:37,589
And in the spring of 1954,
there was also a big conference
1431
01:45:37,614 --> 01:45:40,284
in Geneva to decide the future of Vietnam.
1432
01:45:41,795 --> 01:45:44,763
When it became clear
that the Geneva agreement
1433
01:45:44,787 --> 01:45:47,836
was going to give Ho Chi Minh
a piece of territory,
1434
01:45:48,354 --> 01:45:49,555
Dulles walked out.
1435
01:45:49,580 --> 01:45:52,095
As he was flying home, he decided
we are not accepting this
1436
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:54,401
and we are gonna fight.
we are gonna undermine Ho Chi Minh
1437
01:45:54,426 --> 01:45:57,421
Of course, the French could not defeat him
they are a decade and old power.
1438
01:45:57,446 --> 01:45:59,087
The British are not ambitious enough.
1439
01:45:59,112 --> 01:46:01,926
We are going to do it.
We can do what they could not do.
1440
01:46:02,105 --> 01:46:04,295
All people thought
we could not get rid of Mossadegh.
1441
01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:07,134
People thought we could not
get rid of Arbenz in Guatemala.
1442
01:46:07,161 --> 01:46:10,494
We just got rid of those
easily like it swat a fly.
1443
01:46:10,650 --> 01:46:12,539
You think we cannot
get rid of Ho Chi Minh.
1444
01:46:12,563 --> 01:46:13,984
Just watch.
1445
01:48:29,322 --> 01:48:30,338
Soon there after
1446
01:48:30,884 --> 01:48:33,723
I was up in my office
1447
01:48:33,747 --> 01:48:35,962
and I got a call immediately to go down.
1448
01:48:39,035 --> 01:48:40,051
He had just died.
1449
01:48:41,613 --> 01:48:43,176
uhh so...
1450
01:49:38,645 --> 01:49:41,796
So, they put the corpse in an ambulance.
1451
01:51:00,910 --> 01:51:04,869
Released from the burden of Mossadegh
and his dream of democracy for Iran,
1452
01:51:05,390 --> 01:51:08,697
the Shah is finally liberated
to be what he always wanted
1453
01:51:09,192 --> 01:51:10,963
an all-powerful king
1454
01:51:11,639 --> 01:51:13,280
free to reign and rule
1455
01:51:13,645 --> 01:51:15,260
and stride the globe.
1456
01:51:54,113 --> 01:51:56,917
Do you understand
sometimes the slight dilemma
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that some Western leaders
feel about a very close relationship
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with your government
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when there are some
in America and in Britain too
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who feel that your regime is undemocratic.
How do you respond to that?
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Well, I respond to that by saying
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that your regime
are not more democratic than ours.
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Just look how many billionaires you have
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and how many poor people you have.
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In the old days
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you British and others
who had influence here
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you could change
the prime ministers as you wished.
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Are you sorry for that time
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that you have lost?
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Do you want the same thing
to manipulate our internal affairs?
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We won't let you.
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Iran because of
the great leadership of the Shah
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is an island of stability
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in one of the more
troubled areas of the world.
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The legacy of the 1953 coup in Iran
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is shaping politics to this day.
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We have a government in Iran and
a political system in Iran that probably
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never would have emerged.
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American Iranian relations
might never have deteriorated this way.
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Think of it this way.
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Had we not overthrown Mossadegh in 1953
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and had allowed democracy to grow
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we might have had a flourishing democracy
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in the heart of the Muslim Middle East
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all these 60 years.
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And I can hardly wrap my mind around
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how different the Middle East might be
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if that were the example we had set.
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Instead, we set the opposite example.
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Here was the message
we sent to the rising
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generation of leaders
throughout the Middle East
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the United States does not want democracy
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because democracy in a Middle East country
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is going to lead to
demands for controlling resources.
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What we want is a dictatorial leader
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who can repress his people
as much as he wants
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and we will help him do that
as long as he gives us free access to oil.
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That was the message of the Iran coup
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and that was heard all over the Middle East
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and it led to the emergence of
all the kinds of regimes in the Middle East
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that have created
the crises that we now live with.
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So, this was a decisive historic episode.
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when you read a history
of the 20th century in many cases,
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you would be lucky
to find one line on this coup.
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It should be a big chapter.
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I wrote the whole thing up from beginning
to end and that is definitely on file.
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I think could persuade
them to let me see it.
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This is the sort of thing
that you won't find in any book.
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