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Crowd: [chanting]
Tina! Tina! Tina!
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- Well, hi, everybody!
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Come on, give it to me.
I said hi, everybody!
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Let me hear you say "ow"!
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Crowd: Ow!
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♪ ♪
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- ♪ We're all waiting
in the storm ♪
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♪ Ask me how I feel ♪
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I When things are going wrong I
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♪ Ask me how I feel ♪
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♪ The night is awful cold I
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♪ Ask me how I feel ♪
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♪ You're much too loose
to hold ♪
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♪ Ask me how I feel ♪
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♪ You don't treat me tender ♪
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♪ No matter what I do ♪
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♪ I'm the great pretender ♪
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♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh 4'
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♪ Waiting in the storm ♪
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♪ Ask me how I feel ♪
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♪ Everything's going wrong I
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♪ You gotta ask me how I feel ♪
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- ♪ The night is awful cold I
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- ♪ Ask me how I feel ♪
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[fading] ♪ You know you're
much too loose to hold ♪
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♪ Come on, and ask me
how I feel ♪
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♪ ♪
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- I wondered sometimes
if anyone has approached you
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to do the story of your life,
which is indeed fantastic.
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Yes.
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But I don't want to play
the part.
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I've done it.
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- Who else could play the part
of Tina Turner?
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We'll find someone.
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I just really don't want
to play the part,
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you know what I mean?
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No, you don't know
what I mean,
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'cause you'd have to know me
to know.
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It was just so unlike me,
my life.
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But I don't want anyone
to know about it, I mean...
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- You mean it'd be too painful
or too...
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- Ah, it wasn't--
wasn't a good life.
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It was in some areas,
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but the goodness
did not balance the bad.
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So it's like
not wanting to be reminded.
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You don't like to pull out
old clothes, you know?
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It's like, old memories,
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you want to just leave that
in the past and done with
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and all the things
you don't really want to say,
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but there comes a time
when you do have to say it.
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♪ ♪
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- This is interview one,
take one.
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- In 1981, you did
this interview
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with "People" magazine,
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where for the first time,
really,
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you spoke openly
about your past with Ike.
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- Yeah.
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- And I'm curious
if you can remember at all
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any of the thoughts you had
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around the decision
to be public about that.
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- About my past?
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- About your past,
but also, I guess,
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about the abuse specifically.
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- Yeah, that was
quite nerve-racking.
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Actually, I called my psychic,
and I said,
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"What's gonna happen?"
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'Cause I was
really apprehensive
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about giving the story away
because it was telling.
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It was really telling.
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And she said, "No, Tina.
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"It's going to do
just the opposite.
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It's gonna break everything
wide open."
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- In the early '80s,
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being in "People" magazine was
the equivalent of going viral.
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We had 30 million readers.
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And if somebody wanted
to reach a lot of people,
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there was really
no bigger place to go
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than "People" magazine.
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I was the music editor
of "People" magazine
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for many years,
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and this is the December 7,
1981issue,
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when Tina decided
to tell her story.
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And it was the first time
she told the story in public
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to a journalist.
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So this is the story.
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I reported it and wrote it
for "People" magazine.
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This is the picture of Tina.
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"Tina Turner remains
rock's original Jagger,
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"a primitive force who,
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"glittering in sequins
and a gold-chain miniskirt,
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"typically assaults the stage
in mid-scream
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"with both legs pumping,
hips grinding,
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"long mane whirling,
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"and her mouth wrapped around
some of the sexiest sounds
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"ever set to music.
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"More than five years
have passed
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"since Tina's bitter break
with Ike Turner,
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"her longtime husband,
sideman,
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"and music collaborator
on such classics
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"as 'Proud Mary'
and 'Come Together.'
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"Only now is Tina
able to discuss
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"what she claims were
the harrowing events
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leading up to their split."
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- I lived 16 years with a man
that I knew
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there was no way
I could ever be happy with,
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but I felt
that I had to stay there.
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- You have to believe me now
when I tell you something.
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My ex-husband was
a physically violent man.
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I went through basic torture.
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- Torture?
You would call it torture?
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- To me, it was.
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A lot of people don't know,
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and your magazine
will probably be the first
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to make it publicly known.
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I was living a life of death.
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I didn't exist...
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but I survived it.
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And when I walked out,
I walked.
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And I didn't look back.
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♪ ♪
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- People choose
to tell their story
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for lots of different reasons.
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I think she told me so much
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because she wanted
to just tell it
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and then forget it.
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It didn't quite work out
that way,
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because now, that story is
a great mark of her life.
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♪ ♪
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- Ladies and gentlemen,
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you've seen them live
from coast to coast.
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Now you're about to see them
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all together
for the very first time
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on national television.
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"Hollywood a Go Go" presents
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the fantastic
Ike & Tina Turner Revue!
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♪ ♪
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- When I was a teenager
back in the '60s,
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I knew of their record
that they had out,
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but I had never seen them.
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And then they came on TV,
and I saw her dancing,
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and that's all I could look at.
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I was just so amazed
at this woman.
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♪ ♪
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- I remember standing there
watching her
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and saying, "Whatever that is,
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I want some of that."
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I got the spirit.
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It's no different
than being in a church
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where you are moved
and stirred
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to the point where you can
feel it inside yourself.
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- ♪ Do you like good music? ♪
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♪ Sweet soul music ♪
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♪ Long as it's swinging ♪
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♪ Yeah ♪
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♪ Yeah ♪
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♪ Get out here
on the floor, y'all ♪
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♪ Dancing to a go-go ♪
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♪ And dancing to the music ♪
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♪ Yeah ♪
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♪ Yeah ♪
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♪ Spotlight is on me, y'all F
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I And I'm having
a ball, y'all ♪
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- Back then, you had
the whole Motown revue.
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You had Diana Ross,
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Mary Wells.
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- The Temptations
in these Italian suits,
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and we're putting forth
an image of sophistication.
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And they were all...
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That kind of stuff,
and Tina was more, "Yeah!"
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That kind of stuff.
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- It's wild.
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It's your sensuality,
your sexuality,
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and it's in your face.
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- 4' Dancing to a go-go
and dancing to the music A'
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- Did you ever study dancing?
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- No.
- No?
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And what about music?
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You know, singing?
- No, no music at all.
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Everything is just natural
for me.
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I'm a performer, and I sing,
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and Ike does the managing
and producing.
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- It was Ike's band.
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But he knew that in order to be
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a number one, he needed Tina,
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'cause Tina was
the shining star.
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♪ ♪
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-J'Oh ♪
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♪ Box top A'
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- 4' Let's rock 4'
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♪ Oh, let's rock 3
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- A' Bet bop A'
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- F Oh, box top F
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-J'He ♪
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♪ Gave ♪
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♪ Me a mother 4'
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♪ And he gave me A'
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♪ A father, too 3
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♪ He gave ♪
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♪ Yes, gave me everything A'
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♪ And then he gave 4'
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♪ He gave me you A'
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♪ He gave ♪
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♪ He gave ♪
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♪ Yes, gave me everything A'
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- He was like her hero.
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Like a big brother.
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And he seen her
like a little sister.
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That relationship
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was very beautiful.
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It really was.
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- J' ...me strength
to love with ♪
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I wasn't thinking of,
"I'll go to St. Louis,
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and I'll start singing,
and I'll be a star."
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I was young, naive,
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just a country girl,
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and everything just opened up
to me.
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♪ And most of all X
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♪ He gave me you A'
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- Tina, you started
your musical career
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in a church choir
in your hometown.
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Do you consider
your musical roots
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to be Black gospel?
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- Oh, yes.
Certainly.
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Black gospel, blues.
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B.B. King's music was
our radio during that time.
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- Mm-hmm. What kind of songs
were you singing
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as a member
of the church choir?
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Well, we call them--
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well, it was a Baptist church,
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and they were just
spiritual songs.
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Songs about, you know, love
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and giving and...
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and doing
all of the right things
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that make life good.
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Those were good times,
you know,
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to remember
all of the church singing
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and the choir and all.
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When you're in the South,
there's nothing happening,
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except the church, the piano,
the preacher.
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During that time,
I didn't know
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about anywhere else.
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80 Seeing Lucille Ball
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and Loretta Young
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and all the beautiful ladies
of Hollywood,
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they were a role model
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for a performer.
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But I didn't think that I would
actually achieve that,
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because first, I wasn't pretty,
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and I didn't have the clothes,
I didn't have the means.
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I remember the first
"Vogue" magazine that I saw,
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and I remember
my first French poster--
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Champs-Elysées,
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the Eiffel Tower,
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and the very, very
French woman.
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I was like,
"Ah, that's what I want.
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The world.
That's where I want to go."
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♪ ♪
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- I got the impression
from her,
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she always felt
a little bit out of time
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or a little bit out of place.
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I didn't think she ever felt
like people understood her
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or really liked her
for who she was,
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and the talent she had,
264
00:15:37,852 --> 00:15:39,520
she finally learned
that she had,
265
00:15:39,604 --> 00:15:42,440
can win you a lot of people
who recognize who you are
266
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and will become
like your real family...
267
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or try to.
268
00:15:48,321 --> 00:15:52,659
- Ike, first of all, if we can
kind of go back a long way
269
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to when you were a young man.
270
00:15:54,202 --> 00:15:55,995
A lot of people credit you
271
00:15:56,079 --> 00:15:58,456
with doing the first ever
rock and roll record,
272
00:15:58,539 --> 00:15:59,540
"Rocket 88."
273
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- Yeah, that was in 1951.
274
00:16:01,250 --> 00:16:03,628
- Yeah.
How did that thing happen?
275
00:16:03,878 --> 00:16:06,172
- Well, I live in Clarksdale,
Mississippi,
276
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which is actually 61 miles
from Memphis,
277
00:16:09,300 --> 00:16:11,386
and B.B. King, my mother,
278
00:16:11,511 --> 00:16:13,262
she practically raised him,
you know,
279
00:16:13,304 --> 00:16:14,722
and one night,
we was coming from
280
00:16:14,806 --> 00:16:16,182
Chambers, Mississippi,
playing,
281
00:16:16,265 --> 00:16:18,351
and B.B., I asked him, I said,
"Man, can we play a song?"
282
00:16:18,434 --> 00:16:19,602
And he said, "Yeah."
283
00:16:19,686 --> 00:16:21,312
So he let my band play
one number.
284
00:16:21,396 --> 00:16:23,982
So, anyway, he said, "Man,
you guys should be recording."
285
00:16:24,065 --> 00:16:25,358
And, man, we didn't have
any material,
286
00:16:25,441 --> 00:16:27,443
so on the way up, we decided
to write this song,
287
00:16:27,527 --> 00:16:30,363
and that's when I wrote
the song "Rocket 88," you know.
288
00:16:30,446 --> 00:16:31,698
- J' You women have heard
of jalopies ♪
289
00:16:31,781 --> 00:16:33,366
♪ You've heard the noise
they make A'
290
00:16:33,449 --> 00:16:36,494
♪ But let me introduce
my new Rocket 88 A'
291
00:16:36,703 --> 00:16:38,246
♪ Yes, it's great A'
292
00:16:38,329 --> 00:16:39,831
♪ Just won't wait 4'
293
00:16:39,914 --> 00:16:42,458
♪ Everybody likes
my Rocket 88 A'
294
00:16:42,542 --> 00:16:44,460
♪ Baby, we'll ride in style A'
295
00:16:44,544 --> 00:16:46,879
♪ Moving all along A'
296
00:16:48,673 --> 00:16:50,883
- Ike Turner is
a very important part
297
00:16:50,967 --> 00:16:52,552
of R&B history.
298
00:16:52,635 --> 00:16:54,929
Everybody relied on him
'cause he really knew music
299
00:16:55,013 --> 00:16:56,681
and he scored a real hit record
300
00:16:56,764 --> 00:16:59,225
with a song in 1951
called "Rocket 88."
301
00:16:59,642 --> 00:17:01,853
People say it's the first
rock and roll record.
302
00:17:01,936 --> 00:17:03,813
And when it comes out,
Chess has credited it
303
00:17:03,896 --> 00:17:06,524
to Jackie Brenston
& His Delta Cats.
304
00:17:06,607 --> 00:17:08,401
Ike Turner did that song,
you know?
305
00:17:08,484 --> 00:17:09,902
He made everything
about it happen,
306
00:17:09,986 --> 00:17:11,863
and it's credited to one
of his saxophone players.
307
00:17:11,946 --> 00:17:14,240
Imagine how he feels
about this.
308
00:17:14,365 --> 00:17:16,367
And I think that's the story
of his career.
309
00:17:16,492 --> 00:17:18,411
I think he became paranoid
about that.
310
00:17:18,494 --> 00:17:20,747
He said, "People were always
trying to rip me off."
311
00:17:20,913 --> 00:17:23,249
- He's always obsessed
on that.
312
00:17:23,416 --> 00:17:24,459
"Everybody leaves me.
313
00:17:24,542 --> 00:17:26,794
"| make 'em, you know, popular
314
00:17:26,878 --> 00:17:29,297
"and get a hit record
and everything on them,
315
00:17:29,380 --> 00:17:30,631
and they all leave me."
316
00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,929
- Ike had a problem
of writing songs for people,
317
00:17:37,013 --> 00:17:38,848
and they would leave,
318
00:17:38,931 --> 00:17:41,267
and I promised him
that I wouldn't leave him.
319
00:17:43,019 --> 00:17:45,021
In those days,
a promise is a promise.
320
00:17:58,993 --> 00:18:03,456
-J'Oh ♪
321
00:18:07,877 --> 00:18:11,380
♪ There's something
on my mind ♪
322
00:18:12,256 --> 00:18:15,635
♪ Won't somebody please ♪
323
00:18:16,219 --> 00:18:20,056
♪ Please tell me
what's wrong? ♪
324
00:18:21,057 --> 00:18:22,809
- ♪ You're just a fool ♪
325
00:18:22,892 --> 00:18:25,019
♪ You know you're in love ♪
- ♪ What's to say? ♪
326
00:18:25,103 --> 00:18:26,729
- ♪ You've got to face it
to live in this world I
327
00:18:26,813 --> 00:18:28,481
— ♪ Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey I
328
00:18:28,564 --> 00:18:30,066
- ♪ You take the good
along with the bad ♪
329
00:18:30,149 --> 00:18:32,068
- ♪ Yeah, hey, hey ♪
330
00:18:32,151 --> 00:18:34,654
- ♪ Sometimes you're happy,
and sometimes you're sad ♪
331
00:18:34,779 --> 00:18:36,697
- ♪ One more time ♪
- ♪ You know you love him I
332
00:18:36,781 --> 00:18:38,491
♪ You can't understand ♪
333
00:18:38,574 --> 00:18:41,369
♪ Why he treats you like he do
when he's such a good man ♪
334
00:18:41,452 --> 00:18:42,620
-J' Listen... ♪
335
00:18:42,703 --> 00:18:43,913
I finished school,
336
00:18:43,996 --> 00:18:45,540
and I went
in the recording studio,
337
00:18:45,623 --> 00:18:46,958
and I did a demo,
338
00:18:47,041 --> 00:18:48,960
and that's when
the hit record came.
339
00:18:49,752 --> 00:18:51,045
♪ Oh, now I
340
00:18:51,129 --> 00:18:52,630
♪ I must be a fool ♪
341
00:18:53,172 --> 00:18:55,550
♪ 'Cause I'll do anything
he wants me to do ♪
342
00:18:55,633 --> 00:18:56,843
♪ Now tell me, how come ♪
343
00:18:56,926 --> 00:18:59,095
- 3 You're just a fool,
you know you're in love A'
344
00:18:59,178 --> 00:19:00,555
- ♪ Now one more time ♪
345
00:19:00,638 --> 00:19:02,265
- ♪ You've got to face it
to live in this world I
346
00:19:02,348 --> 00:19:04,517
— ♪ Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey I
347
00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:05,893
Ike came in, and he said,
348
00:19:05,977 --> 00:19:08,229
"You know, the people
in New York are very excited."
349
00:19:08,312 --> 00:19:10,565
We got a hit record.
He was very excited, you know.
350
00:19:10,648 --> 00:19:12,567
And then there was--
contracts started coming in.
351
00:19:16,279 --> 00:19:19,073
I was very ignorant
to show business.
352
00:19:19,282 --> 00:19:21,492
I didn't have any idea
what it was about.
353
00:19:21,701 --> 00:19:24,203
♪ ♪
354
00:19:24,287 --> 00:19:26,122
- She really was young.
355
00:19:27,665 --> 00:19:30,251
She never had no ambition
356
00:19:30,334 --> 00:19:32,336
to be some kind of superstar,
357
00:19:32,420 --> 00:19:35,923
but when she sang,
she just had it.
358
00:19:36,966 --> 00:19:39,510
And Ike exploited it.
359
00:19:40,011 --> 00:19:42,722
He had to make sure
he's gonna get his this time,
360
00:19:42,805 --> 00:19:45,224
so he'd make sure
that his name is on it.
361
00:19:45,349 --> 00:19:47,351
- And that's when he put
the whole show together,
362
00:19:47,435 --> 00:19:48,811
the Ike & Tina Turner Revue
363
00:19:48,895 --> 00:19:50,897
and gave her the name
Tina Turner.
364
00:20:02,325 --> 00:20:03,743
- "Sheena:
Queen of the Jungle, "
365
00:20:03,826 --> 00:20:05,703
it was a TV series.
366
00:20:05,870 --> 00:20:08,497
Tina and Sheena, I guess
it just sounded close to him,
367
00:20:08,581 --> 00:20:11,459
and it sounded good,
Ike & Tina Revue,
368
00:20:11,542 --> 00:20:13,336
as a whole entity.
369
00:20:13,669 --> 00:20:15,755
So he changed it.
Didn't even ask her.
370
00:20:15,838 --> 00:20:17,673
She didn't know
anything about it.
371
00:20:18,633 --> 00:20:23,054
♪ ♪
372
00:20:25,389 --> 00:20:27,767
- Tina was the gold mine.
He knew that.
373
00:20:29,810 --> 00:20:32,396
He created
this Frankenstein thing,
374
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,357
and he had to control it.
375
00:20:35,358 --> 00:20:38,778
So he had to change that thing
from being my little sister--
376
00:20:38,861 --> 00:20:41,239
"No, no, you got to be
my wife now."
377
00:20:41,322 --> 00:20:42,490
Fwoom.
378
00:20:42,657 --> 00:20:47,787
♪ ♪
379
00:22:32,975 --> 00:22:35,394
- You'd never know
from one minute to the next.
380
00:22:35,478 --> 00:22:36,645
Ike could be having
a good time,
381
00:22:36,729 --> 00:22:38,439
and everybody was having
a good time,
382
00:22:38,522 --> 00:22:40,191
and it could just flip
in a second.
383
00:22:40,274 --> 00:22:42,234
And I think with women,
384
00:22:42,318 --> 00:22:44,695
I think, you know, he figured
he had the upper hand.
385
00:22:45,363 --> 00:22:47,365
And especially, like,
with Tina, you know,
386
00:22:47,448 --> 00:22:48,616
that was, like...
387
00:22:49,784 --> 00:22:52,536
I think,
him instilling in her,
388
00:22:52,787 --> 00:22:54,663
"You better be good,
or, you know,
389
00:22:54,747 --> 00:22:56,540
I'm gonna beat the shit
out of you."
390
00:22:56,749 --> 00:22:59,877
And did on many occasions,
you know, I mean,
391
00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:01,879
and for no reason
a lot of times.
392
00:23:01,962 --> 00:23:04,006
It was just...
393
00:23:04,632 --> 00:23:05,925
I really don't know.
394
00:23:06,008 --> 00:23:08,135
I don't think he knows
a lot of the time.
395
00:23:08,219 --> 00:23:12,098
♪ ♪
396
00:23:12,515 --> 00:23:14,683
- I felt obligated
to stay there,
397
00:23:14,767 --> 00:23:16,227
and I was afraid.
398
00:23:16,477 --> 00:23:18,312
And I stayed.
That is just how it was.
399
00:23:18,396 --> 00:23:20,940
I felt very loyal to Ike,
and I didn't want to hurt him.
400
00:23:21,023 --> 00:23:22,858
I mean, sometimes,
like, after he beat me up,
401
00:23:22,942 --> 00:23:24,151
I'd end up feeling sorry
for him.
402
00:23:24,235 --> 00:23:25,486
And, "Why am I feeling sorry?"
403
00:23:25,569 --> 00:23:27,113
I'm sitting here
all bruised and torn,
404
00:23:27,196 --> 00:23:28,781
and all of a sudden,
I'm feeling sorry for him.
405
00:23:28,864 --> 00:23:30,533
You know, little things
like that.
406
00:23:31,450 --> 00:23:33,369
I was 23 years old
or something, you know.
407
00:23:33,452 --> 00:23:34,954
I mean, early 20s.
408
00:23:35,037 --> 00:23:36,664
I was just all--
how do you call it
409
00:23:36,747 --> 00:23:38,624
when someone brainwashes you,
I guess?
410
00:23:38,707 --> 00:23:40,626
- Brainwashed.
- Maybe I was brainwashed.
411
00:23:40,709 --> 00:23:43,045
Yeah. I was afraid of him.
412
00:23:43,129 --> 00:23:46,298
And I cared
what happened to him,
413
00:23:46,382 --> 00:23:48,843
and I knew that if! left,
there was no one to sing.
414
00:23:48,926 --> 00:23:52,304
So I was caught up in guilt
and fear.
415
00:23:52,388 --> 00:23:54,348
Yeah, those are
the two worst qualities,
416
00:23:54,432 --> 00:23:56,350
I think, for a young girl
to be caught up into.
417
00:23:56,892 --> 00:24:01,230
♪ ♪
418
00:24:03,732 --> 00:24:06,902
- And now let's go
with Ike and Tina Turner!
419
00:24:10,281 --> 00:24:14,493
♪ ♪
420
00:24:17,455 --> 00:24:19,331
- ♪ And listen
while I talk to you ♪
421
00:24:20,166 --> 00:24:21,959
♪ I tell you
what I'm gonna do ♪
422
00:24:22,751 --> 00:24:24,837
♪ There's a new dance
that's going around ♪
423
00:24:25,087 --> 00:24:27,423
♪ I want to tell you
what they're putting down ♪
424
00:24:27,882 --> 00:24:30,009
♪ Just move your body
all around ♪
425
00:24:30,176 --> 00:24:31,177
♪ Shake ♪
426
00:24:31,260 --> 00:24:33,053
♪ Aw, baby... ♪
427
00:24:33,137 --> 00:24:34,472
- In those early days,
428
00:24:34,555 --> 00:24:36,348
you'd play
three shows a night.
429
00:24:36,474 --> 00:24:39,101
Two shows this place,
two shows that place,
430
00:24:39,185 --> 00:24:41,479
and two shows
at the after-hours place.
431
00:24:41,562 --> 00:24:43,230
It was hard work.
432
00:24:43,981 --> 00:24:47,985
- I can remember working
as many as four shows a night,
433
00:24:48,068 --> 00:24:50,863
and every night
and every show...
434
00:24:50,946 --> 00:24:53,532
was packed, was packed.
435
00:24:53,657 --> 00:24:54,992
- Right now
I'm gonna tell you
436
00:24:55,075 --> 00:24:56,243
a little something
about my man.
437
00:24:59,955 --> 00:25:00,915
♪ Ha ♪
438
00:25:00,998 --> 00:25:02,291
♪ My man... A'
439
00:25:03,959 --> 00:25:06,212
- He rehearsed constantly.
440
00:25:06,295 --> 00:25:08,839
Even sometimes we'd be
driving to the next show,
441
00:25:08,923 --> 00:25:10,257
he'd be playing the guitar
in the back
442
00:25:10,341 --> 00:25:11,550
and having Tina sing.
443
00:25:11,634 --> 00:25:13,052
I mean, it was 24-7.
444
00:25:13,844 --> 00:25:15,262
- The show has to be perfect.
445
00:25:15,346 --> 00:25:17,139
Every single part of it
has to be perfect.
446
00:25:17,223 --> 00:25:19,517
He was one of those guys
who would turn around onstage
447
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,560
and point at somebody,
and they know
448
00:25:21,644 --> 00:25:24,063
they're getting a $10 fine
'cause they just blew a note.
449
00:25:24,980 --> 00:25:26,815
- 4' He's a one-woman man 4'
450
00:25:26,899 --> 00:25:28,150
♪ And my man... A'
451
00:25:28,234 --> 00:25:30,027
- She didn't have
the glam team,
452
00:25:30,110 --> 00:25:31,654
someone doing the hair
and the makeup
453
00:25:31,737 --> 00:25:33,364
and the stylist
getting the wardrobe.
454
00:25:33,447 --> 00:25:35,908
They did it all themselves.
455
00:25:36,075 --> 00:25:37,701
- ♪ My man ♪
- ♪ Your man ♪
456
00:25:37,785 --> 00:25:39,078
♪ Your man, your man A'
457
00:25:39,161 --> 00:25:41,413
- A' You know,
he's really all right A'
458
00:25:41,497 --> 00:25:43,040
- A' Your man,
your man, your man A'
459
00:25:43,123 --> 00:25:45,709
- 4' Yeah, yeah, yeah,
he treats me... 4'
460
00:25:45,793 --> 00:25:48,546
The only freedom I had was
461
00:25:48,629 --> 00:25:50,589
when the lkettes and I got
the dancing ready
462
00:25:50,673 --> 00:25:52,675
and I got the dresses ready.
463
00:25:52,758 --> 00:25:54,301
And we'd get everything,
464
00:25:54,385 --> 00:25:56,512
except we didn't even know
what song was coming up.
465
00:25:56,595 --> 00:25:58,222
He would--
♪ Da dum ♪
466
00:25:58,305 --> 00:26:00,391
Do it with the guitar,
you know?
467
00:26:00,474 --> 00:26:03,143
♪ He ran home, and my man... A'
468
00:26:03,227 --> 00:26:06,230
It was awful in a way,
but it was a lesson.
469
00:26:06,313 --> 00:26:10,818
Now that I look back,
I see it as a training.
470
00:26:10,901 --> 00:26:15,406
You adjust to what is given,
471
00:26:15,573 --> 00:26:18,158
and that is what was given
at the time.
472
00:26:21,203 --> 00:26:23,956
♪ ♪
473
00:26:24,039 --> 00:26:26,125
- He controlled the music,
and she had to--
474
00:26:26,208 --> 00:26:27,835
it was always his music,
and it was--
475
00:26:27,918 --> 00:26:29,211
which is very same-y
476
00:26:29,295 --> 00:26:30,713
if you listen to it
all the time.
477
00:26:30,796 --> 00:26:33,048
A lot of it is just brilliant.
I love those records.
478
00:26:33,132 --> 00:26:35,092
But it's of a type.
It's one thing.
479
00:26:35,175 --> 00:26:36,635
It's Ike Turner's stuff.
480
00:26:36,719 --> 00:26:39,179
And she--I think she had
broader tastes than that.
481
00:26:39,221 --> 00:26:40,848
She must've felt
there was more you could do
482
00:26:40,931 --> 00:26:42,433
with music than this.
483
00:26:42,516 --> 00:26:44,310
I think she probably had
a bigger dream than--
484
00:26:44,393 --> 00:26:46,145
without knowing it,
than he did.
485
00:26:46,228 --> 00:26:48,689
♪ ♪
486
00:26:48,814 --> 00:26:51,275
- People started to see
that there was more to Tina
487
00:26:51,358 --> 00:26:53,277
than what Ike had
to offer her...
488
00:26:54,111 --> 00:26:55,070
especially after
489
00:26:55,154 --> 00:26:57,364
the "River Deep -
Mountain High" album,
490
00:26:57,448 --> 00:26:59,450
you know, with Phil Spector.
491
00:26:59,533 --> 00:27:00,659
- Phil Spector was
the greatest
492
00:27:00,743 --> 00:27:02,494
pop record producer
of that period.
493
00:27:02,786 --> 00:27:04,955
He played the studio
like an instrument, you know,
494
00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:06,457
and he found
all these singers,
495
00:27:06,540 --> 00:27:08,584
and he made
these wonderful records.
496
00:27:08,667 --> 00:27:09,918
And when Phil Spector wanted
to make
497
00:27:10,002 --> 00:27:11,462
"River Deep - Mountain High,"
498
00:27:11,545 --> 00:27:13,589
Ike's presence was
not necessary.
499
00:27:13,672 --> 00:27:15,591
Just bring Tina in
because she's the star.
500
00:27:17,343 --> 00:27:20,929
- Spector didn't want Ike
nowhere near the studio.
501
00:27:21,013 --> 00:27:22,723
So he paid Ike
X amount of dollars
502
00:27:22,806 --> 00:27:26,352
to get him...
taken care of, so to speak,
503
00:27:26,435 --> 00:27:28,896
so that he
wouldn't interfere with Tina.
504
00:27:29,563 --> 00:27:31,690
And that was the first time
they gave Tina
505
00:27:32,566 --> 00:27:35,653
her chance to sing differently.
506
00:27:35,736 --> 00:27:38,030
- A' Bah, bah, bah-bah, bah A'
507
00:27:38,113 --> 00:27:39,823
- I remember
508
00:27:39,907 --> 00:27:42,993
starting to sing with Phil
509
00:27:43,327 --> 00:27:46,997
that style of singing, but
which Ike had been singing...
510
00:27:47,081 --> 00:27:49,583
I When I was ♪
- One more time.
511
00:27:49,667 --> 00:27:50,876
- And he said,
"No, no, no, no, no.
512
00:27:50,959 --> 00:27:52,461
Just sing the melody."
513
00:27:53,504 --> 00:27:54,838
And I liked that.
514
00:27:55,506 --> 00:27:58,258
That was a freedom
that I didn't have--
515
00:27:58,801 --> 00:28:01,428
you know, like a bird
that gets out of a cage.
516
00:28:02,513 --> 00:28:05,724
I was excited about singing
a different type of song.
517
00:28:05,808 --> 00:28:09,019
I was excited about getting
out of the studio on my own.
518
00:28:09,103 --> 00:28:12,439
It was a freedom
to do something different.
519
00:28:15,484 --> 00:28:17,444
♪ ♪
520
00:28:17,528 --> 00:28:20,280
♪ When I was a little girl ♪
521
00:28:20,364 --> 00:28:22,366
♪ I had a rag doll ♪
522
00:28:23,283 --> 00:28:26,328
♪ Only doll I've ever owned ♪
523
00:28:26,620 --> 00:28:29,081
- ♪ D00, doo, doo-doo ♪
524
00:28:29,164 --> 00:28:31,750
- ♪ Now I love you
just the way ♪
525
00:28:31,834 --> 00:28:34,002
♪ I loved that rag doll ♪
526
00:28:34,962 --> 00:28:37,589
I But only now
my love has grown ♪
527
00:28:39,216 --> 00:28:41,427
♪ And it gets stronger ♪
528
00:28:41,844 --> 00:28:44,096
♪ In every way ♪
529
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,015
♪ And it gets deeper ♪
530
00:28:47,516 --> 00:28:49,685
♪ Let me say ♪
531
00:28:50,436 --> 00:28:52,730
♪ And it gets higher ♪
532
00:28:53,439 --> 00:28:55,524
♪ Day by da)' 4"
533
00:28:56,442 --> 00:28:59,111
♪ And do I love you? ♪
534
00:28:59,278 --> 00:29:01,822
I My, oh, mY ♪
535
00:29:02,239 --> 00:29:04,450
♪ Yeah, river deep ♪
536
00:29:04,742 --> 00:29:08,203
♪ Mountain high,
yeah, yeah, yeah ♪
537
00:29:08,287 --> 00:29:10,330
♪ And if I lost you ♪
538
00:29:10,414 --> 00:29:12,791
♪ Would I cry? ♪
539
00:29:13,584 --> 00:29:16,378
♪ Oh, how I love you, baby ♪
540
00:29:16,879 --> 00:29:20,799
♪ Baby, baby, baby ♪
541
00:29:20,883 --> 00:29:22,801
It was so big,
542
00:29:22,885 --> 00:29:25,304
and my voice sounded
so different
543
00:29:25,387 --> 00:29:27,681
standing on top
of all that music.
544
00:29:27,931 --> 00:29:29,641
♪ I love you, baby ♪
545
00:29:29,725 --> 00:29:33,020
♪ Like a flower loves
the spring... ♪
546
00:29:33,103 --> 00:29:34,646
- People started to see
547
00:29:34,730 --> 00:29:36,732
Tina was capable
of so much more.
548
00:29:36,815 --> 00:29:38,525
She had wings, man.
549
00:29:39,318 --> 00:29:40,944
- A' And I love you, baby A'
550
00:29:41,028 --> 00:29:44,239
♪ Like a schoolboy loves
his pet A'
551
00:29:44,531 --> 00:29:47,075
- This is such
an overpowering orchestration.
552
00:29:47,159 --> 00:29:48,327
It's so complex.
553
00:29:48,410 --> 00:29:50,496
This record,
it just blows out walls.
554
00:29:50,579 --> 00:29:51,747
-J'AhA'
555
00:29:51,830 --> 00:29:53,665
- J' Baby ♪
556
00:29:54,625 --> 00:29:55,959
♪ Baby A'
557
00:30:00,255 --> 00:30:01,799
♪ Oh, baby F
558
00:30:02,049 --> 00:30:03,050
♪ Yow! ♪
559
00:30:07,471 --> 00:30:09,431
- It just died
in the United States.
560
00:30:09,515 --> 00:30:10,808
Died.
Nobody wanted to hear it.
561
00:30:10,891 --> 00:30:12,559
And you listen to this record,
and you think,
562
00:30:12,643 --> 00:30:14,770
"What's the matter
with this country," you know?
563
00:30:14,853 --> 00:30:16,355
"I'm so ashamed
to be an American."
564
00:30:16,438 --> 00:30:19,149
[chuckles] You know,
it's like, what's wrong?
565
00:30:19,274 --> 00:30:23,403
So that was a big blow
to Spector's career,
566
00:30:23,487 --> 00:30:27,366
and, you know, maybe Ike
probably was thinking,
567
00:30:27,449 --> 00:30:28,951
you know, "Well, see?
568
00:30:29,034 --> 00:30:30,452
He's not so great."
569
00:30:30,536 --> 00:30:32,162
"You should stick with me."
570
00:30:32,538 --> 00:30:36,250
- Like any Black artist
in America that do any tune,
571
00:30:36,333 --> 00:30:38,877
it has to go, like, top ten
on the R&B charts
572
00:30:38,961 --> 00:30:41,004
before the top 40 stations
will touch it.
573
00:30:41,088 --> 00:30:44,758
And "River Deep" was not
a Black record, you know,
574
00:30:44,842 --> 00:30:47,177
and so it wouldn't make
the top ten on the R&B charts,
575
00:30:47,261 --> 00:30:48,679
and so, therefore,
the top 40 radio stations
576
00:30:48,762 --> 00:30:50,180
wouldn't play it.
577
00:30:50,264 --> 00:30:52,683
Over in England,
they listen to the record,
578
00:30:52,766 --> 00:30:55,185
and if the record is
a R&B record, it's R&B.
579
00:30:55,269 --> 00:30:56,603
You know,
if it's rhythm and blues,
580
00:30:56,687 --> 00:30:58,313
it's rhythm and blues,
and if it's pop, it's pop,
581
00:30:58,397 --> 00:30:59,690
you know, and so it got played
over here.
582
00:30:59,773 --> 00:31:00,899
It never got played in America.
583
00:31:00,983 --> 00:31:02,150
The Black jockeys say
it's too white.
584
00:31:02,234 --> 00:31:03,610
The white jockeys say
it's too Black.
585
00:31:10,117 --> 00:31:11,368
- A' I was at this party A'
586
00:31:11,451 --> 00:31:13,036
♪ That had the doors
all closed A'
587
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,747
♪ ♪
588
00:31:15,831 --> 00:31:18,667
♪ All this funny smoke
kept going up my nose A'
589
00:31:18,750 --> 00:31:21,378
♪ ♪
590
00:31:21,503 --> 00:31:24,381
♪ They had this joint
that they was passing around A'
591
00:31:24,464 --> 00:31:26,967
♪ ♪
592
00:31:27,050 --> 00:31:30,137
♪ And when they got to me,
I turned it down 4'
593
00:31:30,220 --> 00:31:32,681
♪ ♪
594
00:31:32,764 --> 00:31:33,932
- You live in LA?
- Yes.
595
00:31:34,016 --> 00:31:35,767
- What sort of life
do you have?
596
00:31:35,851 --> 00:31:38,353
- Well, my life is sort of
based around my four sons.
597
00:31:38,437 --> 00:31:39,730
I have a housekeeper
that takes care of them
598
00:31:39,813 --> 00:31:40,939
when I travel.
599
00:31:41,023 --> 00:31:42,649
Being a wife and being Tina
at the same time
600
00:31:42,733 --> 00:31:44,067
is almost like a split person.
601
00:31:44,151 --> 00:31:45,485
But I'm able
to separate the two,
602
00:31:45,569 --> 00:31:47,654
so everything is fine--
the whole thing is sane.
603
00:31:47,738 --> 00:31:49,781
♪ ♪
604
00:31:49,865 --> 00:31:52,492
♪ But everybody got tired
of blowing that grass A'
605
00:31:52,576 --> 00:31:55,621
♪ ♪
606
00:31:55,704 --> 00:31:57,039
♪ I told 'em at first... 3
607
00:31:57,122 --> 00:32:00,834
- Ike Jr. and Michael
were Ike's kids
608
00:32:00,918 --> 00:32:04,171
by Lorraine, his previous wife.
609
00:32:04,588 --> 00:32:06,089
Tina had Craig
610
00:32:06,173 --> 00:32:08,258
when she was
with the saxophone player,
611
00:32:08,342 --> 00:32:10,135
Raymond Hill,
612
00:32:10,218 --> 00:32:13,472
and then she had Ronnie,
you know, with Ike.
613
00:32:14,264 --> 00:32:16,350
They were, like, all together
by the time I met Tina.
614
00:32:16,433 --> 00:32:18,769
- A' Like laid A'
615
00:32:18,852 --> 00:32:20,145
Michael, don't stand
underneath that door.
616
00:32:20,228 --> 00:32:22,272
Don't lean on that door
like that.
617
00:32:23,649 --> 00:32:25,192
I made myself a family.
618
00:32:25,275 --> 00:32:28,612
I totally psyched myself out,
and I made a home,
619
00:32:28,695 --> 00:32:30,572
and I found some pleasure
in that home
620
00:32:30,656 --> 00:32:32,032
every now and then.
621
00:32:32,157 --> 00:32:34,034
Birthdays with children
and dinners,
622
00:32:34,117 --> 00:32:35,786
Thanksgiving dinners,
periodically,
623
00:32:35,869 --> 00:32:37,955
but at least I had
some sense of a life
624
00:32:38,038 --> 00:32:39,873
of what I had always wanted.
625
00:32:39,998 --> 00:32:42,292
♪ I was just too stoned
to take that drive 4'
626
00:32:46,254 --> 00:32:48,048
♪ ♪
627
00:32:48,131 --> 00:32:49,466
- Where my trophy at?
628
00:32:49,549 --> 00:32:51,009
Give me my trophy.
629
00:32:51,218 --> 00:32:53,428
That's a water boy trophy.
- It's not.
630
00:32:53,679 --> 00:32:55,222
- It's Mother's new trophy.
631
00:32:56,348 --> 00:32:58,809
- She was gone
most of the time.
632
00:32:59,434 --> 00:33:01,019
Over a period of eight years,
633
00:33:01,103 --> 00:33:02,646
everything was
basically the same.
634
00:33:02,729 --> 00:33:04,773
Eight months on the road,
four months back,
635
00:33:04,856 --> 00:33:07,150
eight months on the road,
four months back.
636
00:33:07,734 --> 00:33:09,486
She was very, very strict,
637
00:33:09,569 --> 00:33:11,238
particularly when
she was home.
638
00:33:11,321 --> 00:33:12,614
We couldn't have company
639
00:33:12,698 --> 00:33:14,116
unless we finished
our homework.
640
00:33:14,199 --> 00:33:15,993
We had to do our chores.
641
00:33:16,076 --> 00:33:17,703
We had to eat breakfast,
lunch, and dinner
642
00:33:17,786 --> 00:33:19,037
at the same time.
643
00:33:19,121 --> 00:33:22,457
She really took
to raising us personally
644
00:33:22,541 --> 00:33:24,876
because, basically,
that was her happiness,
645
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,044
to a certain extent.
646
00:33:53,822 --> 00:33:57,451
- Everybody was happy
around my mother.
647
00:33:57,534 --> 00:33:59,119
And she was always sad.
648
00:33:59,202 --> 00:34:00,954
She never had friends.
649
00:34:01,038 --> 00:34:03,582
She never had anybody
she could really confide in.
650
00:34:03,665 --> 00:34:06,209
So, basically,
her happiness was with us
651
00:34:06,293 --> 00:34:08,503
and her time alone
in her room.
652
00:34:08,587 --> 00:34:09,963
And there was nothing
she can do
653
00:34:10,047 --> 00:34:11,673
about her circumstances.
654
00:34:12,841 --> 00:34:15,093
He had to know
where she was at all the time.
655
00:34:15,177 --> 00:34:17,596
She was on allowance.
She didn't have her own money.
656
00:34:18,138 --> 00:34:20,265
My mother really had
a non-existent life
657
00:34:20,348 --> 00:34:23,268
other than the studio
and the house.
658
00:34:26,855 --> 00:34:29,566
- When I first
interviewed her,
659
00:34:29,649 --> 00:34:31,568
one of the questions
she kept on asking was,
660
00:34:31,651 --> 00:34:33,361
"Why did I stay?
Why did I stay?
661
00:34:33,445 --> 00:34:35,405
People want to know
why I stayed."
662
00:34:35,489 --> 00:34:38,283
And for me, it was interesting
663
00:34:38,366 --> 00:34:42,454
to think about the violence
that happened before Ike,
664
00:34:42,537 --> 00:34:44,623
'cause I think
a lot of people don't know
665
00:34:44,706 --> 00:34:48,418
that she grew up watching
violence in her own home.
666
00:36:32,022 --> 00:36:33,231
Right now...
667
00:36:36,193 --> 00:36:38,904
I think you might like
to hear something from us...
668
00:36:38,987 --> 00:36:41,781
- 3 Left a good job 3
- Nice and easy.
669
00:36:41,865 --> 00:36:44,659
J' Down in the city ♪
670
00:36:44,743 --> 00:36:46,203
♪ Working for the man E
671
00:36:46,286 --> 00:36:48,163
- Well, now...
- ♪ Every night and day I
672
00:36:48,246 --> 00:36:50,457
- I'd like to do that for you,
673
00:36:50,832 --> 00:36:53,543
but there's just one thing,
you see.
674
00:36:53,627 --> 00:36:56,296
We never, ever do nothing
675
00:36:57,339 --> 00:36:59,007
nice and easy.
676
00:37:01,968 --> 00:37:05,972
We always do it
nice and rough.
677
00:37:06,056 --> 00:37:08,141
♪ ♪
678
00:37:08,266 --> 00:37:10,602
Now, we're gonna take
the beginning of this song,
679
00:37:10,769 --> 00:37:12,062
and we're gonna do it...
680
00:37:12,145 --> 00:37:14,773
- J' And we rolling J'
- Easy.
681
00:37:14,856 --> 00:37:16,566
Both: I Rolling ♪
682
00:37:17,442 --> 00:37:20,237
♪ Rolling on the river 4'
683
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,988
- I My, my I
- Listen.
684
00:37:23,031 --> 00:37:25,116
♪ I left a good job F
685
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,160
♪ In the city... ♪
- ♪ Down in the city... ♪
686
00:37:49,683 --> 00:37:53,561
- A' Proud Mary
keep on burning A'
687
00:37:54,187 --> 00:37:56,356
♪ And we're rolling... A'
688
00:37:56,523 --> 00:37:59,067
I was truly a friend to Ike.
689
00:37:59,693 --> 00:38:01,486
I had promised
that I would help him.
690
00:38:01,569 --> 00:38:03,655
♪ Rolling on the river I
691
00:38:03,738 --> 00:38:05,532
So I was still trying
to help him
692
00:38:05,615 --> 00:38:07,117
to get a hit record.
693
00:38:07,617 --> 00:38:11,371
All:
I.uflverI
694
00:38:11,454 --> 00:38:12,580
- Two, three, four!
695
00:38:15,834 --> 00:38:19,462
♪ ♪
696
00:38:22,632 --> 00:38:25,302
- ♪ Now, I left a good job
in the city ♪
697
00:38:25,635 --> 00:38:28,054
♪ Working for the man
every night and day ♪
698
00:38:28,555 --> 00:38:31,016
♪ And I never lost
one minute of sleeping ♪
699
00:38:31,141 --> 00:38:33,518
♪ Worried 'bout the way
things might have been ♪
700
00:38:33,935 --> 00:38:36,730
♪ Big wheel keep on turning ♪
singers: ♪ Turning ♪
701
00:38:36,813 --> 00:38:38,523
- ♪ Proud Mary
keep on burning ♪
702
00:38:38,606 --> 00:38:39,733
singers: ♪ Burning I
all: ♪ Rolling ♪
703
00:38:39,816 --> 00:38:41,067
- ♪ Yeah ♪
all: ♪ Rolling ♪
704
00:38:41,192 --> 00:38:43,528
- ♪ Rolling I
all: I Rolling on the river ♪
705
00:38:43,611 --> 00:38:45,822
- ♪ I said we're rolling ♪
- ♪ Rolling ♪
706
00:38:45,905 --> 00:38:46,990
all: ♪ Rolling ♪
- ♪ Yeah ♪
707
00:38:47,073 --> 00:38:48,867
all:
I Rolling on the river ♪
708
00:38:49,576 --> 00:38:52,203
♪ River, do, do, do,
do, do, do, do ♪
709
00:38:52,287 --> 00:38:53,496
PDQ, do, do A'
710
00:38:53,580 --> 00:38:59,586
♪ ♪
711
00:39:02,172 --> 00:39:04,090
- "Proud Mary" became a hit.
712
00:39:04,174 --> 00:39:06,509
We were all over America.
713
00:39:06,593 --> 00:39:09,054
♪ And I pumped a lot of 'tane
down in New Orleans 3
714
00:39:09,220 --> 00:39:11,765
♪ But I never saw
the good side of the city A'
715
00:39:11,931 --> 00:39:14,351
♪ Till I hitched a ride
on the riverboat queen... A'
716
00:39:14,434 --> 00:39:16,686
- That's just fabulous.
That's fabulous.
717
00:39:17,812 --> 00:39:19,564
- Who settles an argument
if you...
718
00:39:21,358 --> 00:39:23,443
Things are not always
the way they look, you know.
719
00:39:23,526 --> 00:39:24,986
- No.
Ike's kind of quiet.
720
00:39:25,070 --> 00:39:27,113
- Yeah, he's--
Ike is very bashful
721
00:39:27,197 --> 00:39:28,823
when the lights are on, and...
722
00:39:31,576 --> 00:39:32,869
But on the other hand,
723
00:39:32,952 --> 00:39:34,287
when he's
in the recording studio,
724
00:39:34,371 --> 00:39:36,414
Ike's the one that does
all of the ruling around,
725
00:39:36,498 --> 00:39:38,625
the talking,
he's the whole thing.
726
00:39:38,708 --> 00:39:40,168
- But in public,
he's like this.
727
00:39:40,210 --> 00:39:41,503
- Yeah, 'cause he can't
get it together.
728
00:39:41,586 --> 00:39:43,171
Takes him--
729
00:40:08,571 --> 00:40:10,240
♪ You better do it,
we're rolling... A'
730
00:40:15,829 --> 00:40:17,038
♪ Rolling ♪
- ♪ Rolling ♪
731
00:40:17,122 --> 00:40:18,665
all:
♪ Rolling on the river I
732
00:40:18,748 --> 00:40:20,708
- 3 Go ahead, ah... S
733
00:40:33,513 --> 00:40:34,973
♪ Hey ♪
734
00:40:53,825 --> 00:40:56,035
- I swear you're behind me.
Y'all behind me.
735
00:40:56,119 --> 00:40:57,454
These are all--
736
00:40:57,537 --> 00:41:00,498
I'm on a speed above
where y'all feeling at.
737
00:41:00,582 --> 00:41:02,667
- You're saying on him, too?
- Y'all hear me?
738
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,552
I'm just saying, like,
you're telling her that,
739
00:41:12,635 --> 00:41:13,803
and she's not getting there.
740
00:41:13,887 --> 00:41:15,680
I'm just trying
to give her an example...
741
00:41:16,097 --> 00:41:17,432
of how to sing.
742
00:41:18,183 --> 00:41:19,767
- Okay.
Turn it off.
743
00:41:38,870 --> 00:41:40,371
- In the later part
of their career,
744
00:41:40,455 --> 00:41:42,207
when, you know,
the hits weren't coming
745
00:41:42,290 --> 00:41:43,875
and a lot of the money
wasn't coming in,
746
00:41:43,958 --> 00:41:46,419
he started placing
the blame elsewhere.
747
00:41:46,503 --> 00:41:48,838
You know, he took
a lot of his anger out on her.
748
00:41:48,922 --> 00:41:51,049
♪ ♪
749
00:41:51,132 --> 00:41:54,511
Most of the time,
when Ike would come home,
750
00:41:54,594 --> 00:41:56,304
he would take her
back in the room
751
00:41:56,387 --> 00:41:57,805
and then close the door,
752
00:41:57,889 --> 00:41:59,891
and there'd be the screams.
753
00:42:00,099 --> 00:42:02,227
And we were so petrified,
we were in bed
754
00:42:02,310 --> 00:42:04,521
with the, you know, covers
over our heads.
755
00:42:04,979 --> 00:42:08,233
And then I remember one time,
he was...
756
00:42:12,904 --> 00:42:15,323
He was striking my mother.
757
00:42:16,032 --> 00:42:17,450
And I was young.
758
00:42:17,534 --> 00:42:19,160
And he had thrown
759
00:42:19,244 --> 00:42:21,955
some scalding hot coffee
on her.
760
00:42:23,831 --> 00:42:25,750
And I went
and banged on the door,
761
00:42:27,252 --> 00:42:28,628
and I said, "Mother."
762
00:42:28,711 --> 00:42:30,338
And then it stopped,
and then she said,
763
00:42:30,421 --> 00:42:31,589
"Craig, I'm okay."
764
00:42:33,383 --> 00:42:35,343
He came to apologize,
765
00:42:36,010 --> 00:42:39,013
and he apologized
for the third-degree burn
766
00:42:39,097 --> 00:42:40,348
but didn't apologize
767
00:42:40,431 --> 00:42:41,766
for throwing the coffee
on her.
768
00:42:41,849 --> 00:42:43,601
At that point in time,
I hated that man
769
00:42:43,685 --> 00:42:45,270
for the rest of my life.
770
00:42:45,603 --> 00:42:47,689
And I'll never forget that.
771
00:42:47,772 --> 00:42:48,898
Never.
772
00:42:49,399 --> 00:42:54,279
♪ ♪
773
00:43:01,202 --> 00:43:05,081
♪ ♪
774
00:43:06,249 --> 00:43:08,334
I had began
to not really care.
775
00:43:08,418 --> 00:43:10,920
♪ ♪
776
00:43:11,087 --> 00:43:12,672
And I was there alone.
777
00:43:13,798 --> 00:43:15,758
How can I tell you
what alone meant?
778
00:43:15,842 --> 00:43:20,805
♪ ♪
779
00:43:58,509 --> 00:44:00,178
All:
♪ Tell me, have you seen him? ♪
780
00:44:13,900 --> 00:44:17,654
♪ ♪
781
00:44:18,363 --> 00:44:21,074
- We got to the hospital.
They pumped her stomach.
782
00:44:21,157 --> 00:44:23,076
And I think Ike was out
talking to the doctor
783
00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:24,786
or something,
784
00:44:24,869 --> 00:44:26,537
and I was in there,
just her and I,
785
00:44:26,621 --> 00:44:28,873
and I was scared shitless,
and I thought,
786
00:44:28,956 --> 00:44:31,042
"Tina, you can't die.
I mean, come on, now."
787
00:44:31,125 --> 00:44:32,418
It just really scared me
788
00:44:32,502 --> 00:44:35,088
'cause I didn't know
what had ha--you know,
789
00:44:35,171 --> 00:44:37,924
if she was gonna pull through
or not.
790
00:44:38,007 --> 00:44:43,554
♪ ♪
791
00:45:05,368 --> 00:45:07,245
- These are some
difficult questions now,
792
00:45:07,328 --> 00:45:10,331
and there was a time
where she was unhappy,
793
00:45:10,415 --> 00:45:12,166
and there was
a suicide attempt.
794
00:45:12,250 --> 00:45:13,793
Can you talk
about her unhappiness
795
00:45:13,876 --> 00:45:15,420
and how that made you feel?
796
00:45:20,091 --> 00:45:22,468
- Well, I can't really say
how I felt
797
00:45:22,552 --> 00:45:25,680
because I never knew
how she felt.
798
00:45:25,763 --> 00:45:29,684
I didn't know
why she attempted suicide,
799
00:45:29,767 --> 00:45:32,145
because I thought
maybe that it was a...
800
00:45:34,772 --> 00:45:36,149
Well...
801
00:45:38,151 --> 00:45:40,069
let me start this again.
802
00:45:40,153 --> 00:45:43,156
At first,
Tina attempting suicide
803
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,199
two or three times,
804
00:45:45,533 --> 00:45:48,661
I think that this was
some form of attention.
805
00:45:49,412 --> 00:45:52,707
She was unhappy about
the things that I was doing,
806
00:45:52,790 --> 00:45:54,500
me being a womanizer,
807
00:45:54,542 --> 00:45:56,210
being with all these women
and stuff like this,
808
00:45:56,294 --> 00:45:58,171
and I think that
809
00:45:58,254 --> 00:46:00,131
the real truth is that
810
00:46:00,214 --> 00:46:03,634
she was trying to be something
that she wasn't.
811
00:46:03,718 --> 00:46:06,345
She was--wait a minute.
I want to clarify this.
812
00:46:06,429 --> 00:46:08,931
She was trying to be
813
00:46:09,182 --> 00:46:11,225
what she thought I wanted...
814
00:46:11,309 --> 00:46:13,561
not what she really was.
815
00:46:13,644 --> 00:46:15,229
She was trying to please me.
816
00:46:15,313 --> 00:46:17,857
And so, therefore, she was
going through a lot of hurt,
817
00:46:17,940 --> 00:46:19,525
and I think
she had a very unhappy life
818
00:46:19,609 --> 00:46:20,693
because of that.
819
00:46:20,777 --> 00:46:22,320
I think we were living a lie,
820
00:46:22,403 --> 00:46:25,531
and if I had done used
my head any at all,
821
00:46:25,615 --> 00:46:27,450
I would've known better.
822
00:46:27,825 --> 00:46:32,163
And so this is what led
to our downfall.
823
00:46:39,086 --> 00:46:40,963
♪ ♪
824
00:47:35,059 --> 00:47:38,020
- Buddhism was a way out.
825
00:47:38,729 --> 00:47:40,523
And it changed your attitude
826
00:47:40,606 --> 00:47:43,526
towards the situation
that you're in.
827
00:47:43,609 --> 00:47:45,444
The more you chant,
the more, you know,
828
00:47:45,528 --> 00:47:48,030
you become liberated mentally.
829
00:48:40,249 --> 00:48:44,295
-J'Yo ♪
830
00:48:44,503 --> 00:48:45,588
Hey!
831
00:48:45,671 --> 00:48:47,632
Crowd: ♪ Yo ♪
832
00:48:58,643 --> 00:48:59,769
Hey!
833
00:49:12,657 --> 00:49:14,367
- ♪ Every woman ♪
singers: ♪ Just a little bit ♪
834
00:49:14,575 --> 00:49:17,203
- ♪ Hey, hey,
every move, girl ♪
835
00:49:17,286 --> 00:49:18,871
♪ You've got to have
a little respect ♪
836
00:49:19,664 --> 00:49:20,623
singers:
♪ Just a little bit ♪
837
00:49:20,706 --> 00:49:22,583
- Ike had recognized it, too,
838
00:49:22,667 --> 00:49:25,336
that he couldn't control
her anymore,
839
00:49:25,419 --> 00:49:27,672
because she just wasn't
putting up with any of that.
840
00:49:27,755 --> 00:49:28,839
- Right now...
841
00:49:29,924 --> 00:49:31,676
I'm gonna talk about respect...
842
00:49:32,385 --> 00:49:33,678
because, you see,
843
00:49:35,179 --> 00:49:36,889
respect is what I want.
844
00:49:38,307 --> 00:49:40,393
I think
it's what most of us want.
845
00:49:41,060 --> 00:49:43,813
But, you know, we don't always
get what we want,
846
00:49:44,355 --> 00:49:45,856
especially us women.
847
00:49:47,650 --> 00:49:49,318
Tonight I'm gonna speak
for us women, you see,
848
00:49:49,402 --> 00:49:51,487
because, somehow,
849
00:49:52,196 --> 00:49:54,865
the men always manage to get
850
00:49:54,949 --> 00:49:56,617
what they want.
851
00:49:57,076 --> 00:49:58,369
That's right.
852
00:49:58,744 --> 00:50:00,496
They do what they want to do
853
00:50:01,622 --> 00:50:03,624
whenever they want to do it.
854
00:50:03,708 --> 00:50:05,376
And you know what?
855
00:50:06,002 --> 00:50:08,963
They do it with whoever
they want to do it with.
856
00:50:09,839 --> 00:50:12,299
Now, fellas, you've started
us women to thinking.
857
00:50:12,508 --> 00:50:14,343
Yeah, we can think, too.
858
00:50:14,468 --> 00:50:18,389
We think that whatever's
out there in the streets
859
00:50:18,472 --> 00:50:20,141
must be good...
860
00:50:20,641 --> 00:50:23,644
'cause you mens been out there
a long time.
861
00:50:24,478 --> 00:50:27,189
Now us women wants to go
out there and get us some, too.
862
00:50:28,566 --> 00:50:29,859
But I want you to...
863
00:50:30,192 --> 00:50:31,610
♪ To get together ♪
864
00:50:31,861 --> 00:50:34,155
♪ I want you
to try to feel it ♪
865
00:50:34,697 --> 00:50:35,865
♪ Try to feel it ♪
866
00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:38,284
♪ And I want everybody ♪
singers: ♪ Just a little bit ♪
867
00:50:38,367 --> 00:50:39,952
- ♪ To do a soul clap ♪
singers: ♪ Just a little bit ♪
868
00:50:40,036 --> 00:50:41,620
- ♪ Clap your hands ♪
singers: ♪ Just a little bit ♪
869
00:50:41,704 --> 00:50:43,122
- ♪ Everybody ♪
singers: ♪ Just a little bit ♪
870
00:50:43,205 --> 00:50:46,125
- ♪ Clap, clap,
clap your hands, everybody ♪
871
00:50:49,336 --> 00:50:52,965
♪ ♪
872
00:50:53,049 --> 00:50:54,633
♪ Ow! ♪
singers: ♪ Just a little bit ♪
873
00:50:54,717 --> 00:50:56,427
- ♪ A little respect ♪
singers: ♪ Just a little bit ♪
874
00:50:56,510 --> 00:50:58,387
- ♪ Oh ♪
singers: ♪ Just a little bit ♪
875
00:50:58,471 --> 00:51:00,181
♪ Just a little bit ♪
- Sock it to me.
876
00:51:00,264 --> 00:51:01,849
♪ Now get on ♪
877
00:51:02,475 --> 00:51:04,268
♪ Child ♪
singers: ♪ Just a little bit ♪
878
00:51:04,351 --> 00:51:05,686
- ♪ Hey ♪
singers: ♪ Just a little bit ♪
879
00:51:05,770 --> 00:51:06,937
- ♪ Clap your hands ♪
880
00:51:07,021 --> 00:51:08,189
♪ Now, come on ♪
881
00:51:08,439 --> 00:51:10,024
♪ Clap your hands ♪
882
00:51:10,107 --> 00:51:11,817
♪ That's what I mean ♪
883
00:51:11,901 --> 00:51:13,152
♪ Oh, yeah 3
884
00:51:13,235 --> 00:51:14,361
♪ Oh, yeah F
885
00:51:42,264 --> 00:51:43,474
— Okay, Okay-
886
00:52:28,394 --> 00:52:33,232
♪ ♪
887
00:53:48,641 --> 00:53:52,019
The memory of that
was horrendous, of course,
888
00:53:52,102 --> 00:53:54,897
because I was practically
run over by a truck.
889
00:53:54,980 --> 00:53:56,649
I didn't——| didn't——
890
00:53:56,732 --> 00:53:58,359
well, I wasn't
thinking clearly, of course.
891
00:53:58,442 --> 00:54:01,946
And so I thought at that point
was a time when I could cross,
892
00:54:02,029 --> 00:54:04,823
but, you know, I had felt
like I was moving slow,
893
00:54:04,907 --> 00:54:06,575
and there was that big truck,
894
00:54:06,659 --> 00:54:08,202
really one of the big ones
coming,
895
00:54:08,285 --> 00:54:09,620
and the horn blew.
896
00:54:09,703 --> 00:54:11,455
“Rah fight'?
897
00:54:11,538 --> 00:54:15,417
And what I mostly remember
898
00:54:15,501 --> 00:54:16,835
is flashing lights.
899
00:54:23,259 --> 00:54:29,265
♪ ♪
900
00:54:41,944 --> 00:54:45,406
♪ ♪
901
00:55:46,425 --> 00:55:51,347
♪ ♪
902
00:55:51,472 --> 00:55:53,724
The next day, it was
the Fourth of July,
903
00:55:53,807 --> 00:55:55,601
and I said, "Of course,
the Fourth of July."
904
00:55:55,684 --> 00:55:58,062
But I'll remember every time,
"Oh, the Fourth of July.
905
00:55:58,145 --> 00:56:00,272
It's when I got my freedom."
906
00:56:01,148 --> 00:56:04,860
♪ ♪
907
00:56:07,946 --> 00:56:13,702
♪ ♪
908
00:56:36,392 --> 00:56:39,853
The divorce was clean-cut.
909
00:56:39,937 --> 00:56:41,563
I got nothing.
910
00:56:41,647 --> 00:56:43,440
No money, no house, no car.
911
00:57:13,303 --> 00:57:16,140
That is when I realized
that I could use Tina
912
00:57:16,223 --> 00:57:17,975
to become...
913
00:57:18,976 --> 00:57:20,310
a business.
914
00:57:21,979 --> 00:57:24,189
And so I said,
"I'll just take my name."
915
00:57:26,733 --> 00:57:28,152
Ike fought a little bit
916
00:57:28,235 --> 00:57:30,404
because he knew
what I would do with it.
917
00:57:30,779 --> 00:57:33,449
And it was through court
that I got it.
918
00:57:33,699 --> 00:57:34,867
Tina.
919
00:57:39,288 --> 00:57:42,374
- To keep it is to reclaim it,
920
00:57:42,458 --> 00:57:45,085
reshape it, refine it.
921
00:57:47,129 --> 00:57:49,840
Also a kind of, like,
"fuck you" to Ike.
922
00:57:49,923 --> 00:57:52,759
"Yeah, you gave me this name,
923
00:57:52,843 --> 00:57:55,512
but watch what I build
with it."
924
00:58:01,727 --> 00:58:03,395
♪ ♪
925
00:58:03,479 --> 00:58:06,023
- ♪ When you walk
into the bar ♪
926
00:58:06,106 --> 00:58:08,358
♪ I'm the first one
you're gonna see ♪
927
00:58:10,235 --> 00:58:12,779
♪ Business and pleasure
just don't mix A'
928
00:58:12,863 --> 00:58:15,491
♪ So can I take
your order, please? ♪
929
00:58:17,284 --> 00:58:20,078
♪ You fellas know
I don't take no mess ♪
930
00:58:20,162 --> 00:58:22,414
♪ It's a whole Iotta woman ♪
931
00:58:22,498 --> 00:58:25,042
♪ In this dress ♪
932
00:58:25,501 --> 00:58:27,753
♪ Oh, they call me E
933
00:58:27,836 --> 00:58:29,505
♪ A root, toot A'
934
00:58:29,588 --> 00:58:33,008
♪ Undisputable
rock and roller 4'
935
00:58:33,091 --> 00:58:34,176
Singers:
4' Roller A'
936
00:58:34,259 --> 00:58:36,345
- F I got a fine fanny E
937
00:58:36,428 --> 00:58:38,222
♪ But a rough-talking Annie 4'
938
00:58:38,305 --> 00:58:40,182
I Rock and roller ♪
939
00:58:43,519 --> 00:58:44,811
I realized
I had to go to work.
940
00:58:44,895 --> 00:58:46,772
I mean, I couldn't
just stay there
941
00:58:46,855 --> 00:58:48,398
and wait for what?
942
00:58:48,482 --> 00:58:49,816
I had to work.
943
00:58:50,025 --> 00:58:51,151
- After Tina left Ike,
944
00:58:51,485 --> 00:58:53,487
somebody had to pay
for the dates they blew
945
00:58:53,570 --> 00:58:55,948
and Tina wound up
with all the bills,
946
00:58:56,031 --> 00:58:57,115
none of the money.
947
00:58:57,199 --> 00:58:58,700
She would go do Vegas.
948
00:58:58,784 --> 00:59:00,494
She'd go do,
like, McDonald's conventions.
949
00:59:00,577 --> 00:59:01,912
She'd play anywhere
950
00:59:01,995 --> 00:59:04,081
just to make the money
to get by.
951
00:59:04,164 --> 00:59:06,708
- 4' Everybody knows
to keep it cool... 4'
952
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,711
- Ike wasn't paying anything
at that point.
953
00:59:09,795 --> 00:59:12,005
So she's got to support herself
and the kids.
954
00:59:13,382 --> 00:59:15,592
So that's when I started
booking television shows.
955
00:59:15,634 --> 00:59:16,927
I mean, we were
doing everything
956
00:59:17,010 --> 00:59:18,345
from "The Brady Bunch"...
957
00:59:19,805 --> 00:59:21,557
- ♪ Too many nights ♪
958
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,141
- To "Hollywood Squares"...
959
00:59:23,225 --> 00:59:24,726
- In "The Hollywood Squares."
960
00:59:24,810 --> 00:59:26,687
- Whatever TV shows
we could get her on,
961
00:59:26,770 --> 00:59:28,855
because that was the only source
of income at that point.
962
00:59:28,939 --> 00:59:30,357
- Ike and Tina.
Where's Ike?
963
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:31,900
Uaughs]
- I don't know.
964
00:59:34,069 --> 00:59:35,779
- So nice to have you
on the show, Tina.
965
00:59:35,862 --> 00:59:36,863
- Thank you.
966
00:59:36,947 --> 00:59:39,658
- What I remember is,
there was always the shadow
967
00:59:39,741 --> 00:59:41,577
of Ike Turner.
968
00:59:42,744 --> 00:59:46,498
It was really hard for her,
you know.
969
00:59:46,582 --> 00:59:47,874
- Is it all right for me
to ask you
970
00:59:47,958 --> 00:59:50,419
if you and Ike are together
or separated
971
00:59:50,502 --> 00:59:52,337
or divorced or...
972
00:59:52,671 --> 00:59:54,381
- Separated and divorced.
Uaughs]
973
00:59:54,464 --> 00:59:56,008
- Separated and divorced?
974
00:59:56,091 --> 00:59:57,509
- Yeah.
We are divorced.
975
00:59:57,593 --> 00:59:59,261
- Yeah, it took a while...
976
00:59:59,344 --> 01:00:01,013
- Oh, yes.
- For you to decide?
977
01:00:01,096 --> 01:00:03,599
- Well, yes.
It was--I mean, we're family.
978
01:00:03,682 --> 01:00:06,059
We'd been together
for, like, 16 years.
979
01:00:06,143 --> 01:00:08,937
- Ike and Tina Turner,
that was a unit.
980
01:00:09,021 --> 01:00:11,106
- People still call me
Ike and Tina.
981
01:00:11,189 --> 01:00:12,941
- Ike and Tina?
- Yeah, they do.
982
01:00:13,025 --> 01:00:15,902
- He triggered
a lot of trauma...
983
01:00:15,986 --> 01:00:18,155
just the thought of him,
984
01:00:18,238 --> 01:00:20,115
you know,
'cause there was a lot.
985
01:00:20,490 --> 01:00:21,950
But she's a professional.
986
01:00:22,034 --> 01:00:23,827
She'd get onstage,
you'd never know
987
01:00:23,910 --> 01:00:25,412
anything was up...
988
01:00:25,787 --> 01:00:27,122
ever.
989
01:00:27,205 --> 01:00:28,832
- All right, five, six,
seven, eight.
990
01:00:28,915 --> 01:00:30,334
: Bop. hey I
991
01:00:30,417 --> 01:00:32,294
♪ I hear music in the ♪
992
01:00:32,377 --> 01:00:34,463
all:
♪ I hear music ♪
993
01:00:35,005 --> 01:00:37,132
- ♪ Then let me know I
994
01:00:37,215 --> 01:00:40,677
♪ There's a party going down ♪
995
01:00:40,761 --> 01:00:42,512
♪ Da-nah-nah-nah ♪
996
01:00:42,596 --> 01:00:43,764
♪ Da-nah-nah-nah ♪
997
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,310
I was becoming stagnant.
998
01:00:48,393 --> 01:00:50,270
I knew that there was
something else.
999
01:00:50,354 --> 01:00:51,980
And I realized
I wasn't going anywhere.
1000
01:00:52,064 --> 01:00:53,649
I'd be in Las Vegas
all my life.
1001
01:00:53,732 --> 01:00:54,983
Five, six, seven, eight.
1002
01:00:55,067 --> 01:00:56,652
Take two, two, three, four...
1003
01:00:56,735 --> 01:00:59,112
I was ready to get out there.
1004
01:00:59,196 --> 01:01:00,656
This is fine,
what you got so far,
1005
01:01:00,739 --> 01:01:02,866
but it's not good enough.
1006
01:01:02,949 --> 01:01:04,660
Well, then the next question is,
1007
01:01:04,743 --> 01:01:06,870
but you'd have to get someone
to organize that.
1008
01:01:06,953 --> 01:01:09,998
That is when Roger came
into picture.
1009
01:01:11,416 --> 01:01:14,711
All: ♪ Somebody's gonna
hurt someone ♪
1010
01:01:15,545 --> 01:01:18,131
♪ Before the night is through ♪
1011
01:01:18,465 --> 01:01:20,425
♪ ♪
1012
01:01:20,509 --> 01:01:22,719
- Well, I was working
with Olivia Newton-John,
1013
01:01:22,803 --> 01:01:25,097
and we were doing
a television special
1014
01:01:25,180 --> 01:01:26,556
called "Hollywood Nights,"
1015
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,518
and Olivia had this desire
to have
1016
01:01:29,601 --> 01:01:31,645
really strong female singers
back her
1017
01:01:31,728 --> 01:01:33,271
in one or two songs.
1018
01:01:33,355 --> 01:01:35,148
- ♪ If it takes all night ♪
1019
01:01:35,482 --> 01:01:37,818
- We had a list of people
we asked.
1020
01:01:37,901 --> 01:01:39,861
Toni Tennille,
Captain and Tennille,
1021
01:01:39,945 --> 01:01:41,780
I think Peaches was in it,
1022
01:01:41,863 --> 01:01:43,407
Tina Turner.
1023
01:01:43,490 --> 01:01:45,409
And that's
when I first met Tina.
1024
01:01:46,284 --> 01:01:49,079
All: ♪ There's gonna be
a heartache tonight ♪
1025
01:01:49,371 --> 01:01:52,249
♪ A heartache tonight, I know ♪
1026
01:01:52,999 --> 01:01:54,126
- .|' Yes, I know I
1027
01:01:54,626 --> 01:01:57,421
all: ♪ There's gonna be
a heartache tonight... ♪
1028
01:01:57,504 --> 01:01:59,089
- I remember when I walked in
to Roger's office,
1029
01:01:59,172 --> 01:02:00,424
he looked at me.
1030
01:02:00,966 --> 01:02:02,676
I will never forget that look.
1031
01:02:02,759 --> 01:02:04,094
It was in wonder.
1032
01:02:04,177 --> 01:02:05,887
Like, "How old is she?
1033
01:02:05,971 --> 01:02:08,348
What can I do with her?"
All of that.
1034
01:02:08,432 --> 01:02:10,767
And then I said,
"I simply want a manager.
1035
01:02:10,851 --> 01:02:12,436
"I don't know what to do.
I need to work.
1036
01:02:12,519 --> 01:02:13,812
I want to work."
1037
01:02:13,895 --> 01:02:17,107
And then he said,
"I need to see what you do."
1038
01:02:17,399 --> 01:02:20,736
And so I said, "Well,
I'm opening in San Francisco."
1039
01:02:20,819 --> 01:02:22,487
♪ Now you've heard my story ♪
1040
01:02:24,156 --> 01:02:26,533
♪ You heard every word I sang ♪
1041
01:02:27,242 --> 01:02:29,494
- They were doing
a two-week residency
1042
01:02:29,578 --> 01:02:31,830
at the Fairmont Hotel
in San Francisco,
1043
01:02:31,913 --> 01:02:33,081
two shows a night.
1044
01:02:33,165 --> 01:02:35,000
- ♪ Fahrenheit or Centigrade ♪
1045
01:02:35,083 --> 01:02:36,877
♪ They give us fever ♪
1046
01:02:39,713 --> 01:02:41,256
- The first show was supper.
1047
01:02:41,339 --> 01:02:42,632
You know,
everyone eating dinner,
1048
01:02:42,716 --> 01:02:44,760
and I'm, like, going, "Christ,"
you know...
1049
01:02:44,843 --> 01:02:46,344
- ♪ Fever ♪
1050
01:02:46,428 --> 01:02:47,637
- It was very cabaret,
1051
01:02:47,721 --> 01:02:49,389
and they did
a lot of cover versions.
1052
01:02:49,473 --> 01:02:52,601
I didn't react that excited...
1053
01:02:52,726 --> 01:02:54,686
'Cause I didn't think
I could do anything with her.
1054
01:02:54,770 --> 01:02:56,480
- ♪ ...lovely way to burn ♪
1055
01:02:57,481 --> 01:02:59,900
♪ Oh, what a lovely way
to burn ♪
1056
01:03:04,821 --> 01:03:07,199
♪ ♪
1057
01:03:07,532 --> 01:03:09,159
♪ Burn, baby, burn ♪
1058
01:03:09,451 --> 01:03:10,577
♪ Choo! ♪
1059
01:03:10,660 --> 01:03:12,370
♪ Burn, baby, burn... ♪
1060
01:03:13,288 --> 01:03:15,123
- Anyway, we stayed
for the second show,
1061
01:03:15,207 --> 01:03:17,709
and the second show being,
like, a 9:00 show,
1062
01:03:17,793 --> 01:03:20,629
it was people had some drinks,
they were standing on tables,
1063
01:03:20,712 --> 01:03:22,339
and Tina was just working
the audience,
1064
01:03:22,422 --> 01:03:23,965
and I went, "Wow.
1065
01:03:24,216 --> 01:03:26,092
What a great
live performance."
1066
01:03:26,468 --> 01:03:28,553
- ♪ People getting loose now ♪
1067
01:03:28,929 --> 01:03:31,556
♪ Getting down on the roof ♪
1068
01:03:33,266 --> 01:03:34,768
♪ I was screaming ♪
1069
01:03:36,269 --> 01:03:37,979
♪ Out of control ♪
1070
01:03:41,149 --> 01:03:45,320
♪ ♪
1071
01:03:45,612 --> 01:03:47,572
- You know
when you meet an artist
1072
01:03:47,656 --> 01:03:49,241
if they have got something
that grabs you,
1073
01:03:49,324 --> 01:03:51,076
and, obviously, it did to me,
1074
01:03:51,159 --> 01:03:53,078
and she was also
incredibly determined.
1075
01:03:54,496 --> 01:03:56,581
- Roger said to me,
"What do you want?"
1076
01:03:58,625 --> 01:04:00,043
I had a dream.
1077
01:04:00,126 --> 01:04:03,296
My dream is to be the first
Black rock and roll singer
1078
01:04:03,380 --> 01:04:05,632
to pack places like the Stones
1079
01:04:05,715 --> 01:04:07,217
or those people
that are packing
1080
01:04:07,300 --> 01:04:08,552
those kind of places,
you know?
1081
01:04:08,635 --> 01:04:10,136
- "I want to fill
the rock stadiums, Rog
1082
01:04:10,178 --> 01:04:11,388
like Mick and Keith."
1083
01:04:11,471 --> 01:04:13,223
I said, "Yep,
that's what we're gonna do."
1084
01:04:13,306 --> 01:04:14,766
I had no idea
if we were gonna do it,
1085
01:04:14,850 --> 01:04:17,477
'cause there weren't
any female rock artists
1086
01:04:17,561 --> 01:04:19,604
in the world
selling out football stadiums.
1087
01:04:21,898 --> 01:04:24,609
- Tina's problem,
after leaving the Ike orbit,
1088
01:04:24,693 --> 01:04:25,902
was now she's on her own.
1089
01:04:25,986 --> 01:04:28,029
She's just Tina Turner,
but who is that?
1090
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,282
♪ ♪
1091
01:04:30,365 --> 01:04:32,200
She is, by this point,
1092
01:04:32,534 --> 01:04:34,077
older than
your average pop star.
1093
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:35,662
She's a middle-aged woman.
1094
01:04:35,745 --> 01:04:37,998
Is she R&B?
Was it disco?
1095
01:04:38,081 --> 01:04:39,666
Wasn't she doing that
recently?
1096
01:04:39,749 --> 01:04:42,002
It was very unclear.
Her image was unclear.
1097
01:04:42,377 --> 01:04:44,588
- When Tina said,
"I'd like you to manage me,"
1098
01:04:44,671 --> 01:04:46,047
I immediately thought,
1099
01:04:46,131 --> 01:04:47,966
"Well, I've got to get her
a record deal,
1100
01:04:48,049 --> 01:04:49,718
"we've got to change the image
1101
01:04:49,801 --> 01:04:51,803
"so people
at record companies know
1102
01:04:51,887 --> 01:04:54,639
"that you're not
just a Vegas cabaret act.
1103
01:04:54,723 --> 01:04:56,266
We're gonna make it current."
1104
01:04:56,391 --> 01:04:58,476
I said, "We're gonna have
to make a rock show."
1105
01:05:01,688 --> 01:05:05,567
♪ ♪
1106
01:05:05,650 --> 01:05:08,153
- I was ready for change.
I was ready for that.
1107
01:05:11,489 --> 01:05:13,283
But first of all,
the long hair
1108
01:05:13,366 --> 01:05:16,745
was a look that I used
for Ike and Tina,
1109
01:05:16,828 --> 01:05:18,413
so I cut the hair.
1110
01:05:19,664 --> 01:05:21,833
That was a change immediately.
1111
01:05:23,877 --> 01:05:26,004
Then the Bob Mackie
clothes went.
1112
01:05:26,087 --> 01:05:28,632
♪ ♪
1113
01:05:28,715 --> 01:05:30,592
Pulled out some of my
rock and roll dresses,
1114
01:05:30,675 --> 01:05:31,885
the shorter ones.
1115
01:05:32,469 --> 01:05:35,305
And I went to work.
- Five, six, seven, eight...
1116
01:05:38,516 --> 01:05:39,976
- Ladies and gentlemen...
1117
01:05:41,937 --> 01:05:42,979
Tina Turner!
1118
01:05:47,692 --> 01:05:51,863
♪ ♪
1119
01:05:51,947 --> 01:05:54,157
- ♪ Can I introduce myself? ♪
1120
01:05:55,033 --> 01:05:57,535
♪ I'm a gal
of financial wealth ♪
1121
01:05:58,244 --> 01:06:00,956
♪ Sound in mind,
body, soul, and health ♪
1122
01:06:01,456 --> 01:06:05,418
♪ Oh, and I want
to kill his wife ♪
1123
01:06:05,919 --> 01:06:08,338
♪ I have this urge
to take her life... ♪
1124
01:06:08,421 --> 01:06:10,465
- We hired a young band.
1125
01:06:10,590 --> 01:06:12,759
We didn't really
have any money.
1126
01:06:12,842 --> 01:06:15,095
So Tina, who always knew
1127
01:06:15,178 --> 01:06:17,055
what she wanted them
to look like,
1128
01:06:17,138 --> 01:06:19,557
said, "We'll put them
in black karate suits."
1129
01:06:19,975 --> 01:06:21,393
The band hated it.
1130
01:06:21,476 --> 01:06:23,895
The musicians were like,
"Why do we have to wear this?"
1131
01:06:23,979 --> 01:06:25,981
I said, "You know, you each
get a different color belt."
1132
01:06:26,064 --> 01:06:29,693
- ♪ She'll escape
down into Mexico.. ♪
1133
01:06:29,776 --> 01:06:31,611
- We looked
a little bit shabby,
1134
01:06:31,653 --> 01:06:34,072
but that's what rock and roll
is--it's shabby.
1135
01:06:34,823 --> 01:06:36,825
- She wanted two girls
1136
01:06:36,950 --> 01:06:39,828
to get away, I think,
from that lkette thing.
1137
01:06:39,911 --> 01:06:41,830
- ♪ Should I act quite cold
and deliberate? ♪
1138
01:06:41,913 --> 01:06:45,625
- She was reinventing herself
as Tina Turner.
1139
01:06:45,709 --> 01:06:47,335
- ♪ And they'll all say
suicide ♪
1140
01:06:47,419 --> 01:06:48,920
♪ They won't know
who done it... ♪
1141
01:06:49,004 --> 01:06:50,630
That was the beginning
of me taking control
1142
01:06:50,714 --> 01:06:52,424
of my performance.
1143
01:06:53,008 --> 01:06:54,926
I was my own boss.
1144
01:06:55,051 --> 01:06:56,845
♪ I really want to
take her life ♪
1145
01:06:57,470 --> 01:07:00,682
- 4' She'll escape
down into Mexico 3
1146
01:07:00,765 --> 01:07:03,601
- ♪ Baby, into Mexico ♪
1147
01:07:03,685 --> 01:07:05,228
- 3 Sell the house I
1148
01:07:05,311 --> 01:07:07,605
I And find
a nice young beau ♪
1149
01:07:08,064 --> 01:07:10,442
- ♪ Find a nice young beau ♪
1150
01:07:10,525 --> 01:07:12,110
- A' With long black hair A'
1151
01:07:12,193 --> 01:07:14,571
- I And I won't work no more I
1152
01:07:14,654 --> 01:07:15,530
♪ Ha ♪
1153
01:07:15,864 --> 01:07:17,407
♪ Hahahahaha ♪
1154
01:07:18,408 --> 01:07:20,869
♪ Ooh ooh ooh ♪
1155
01:07:21,202 --> 01:07:22,787
♪ YayaY3Ya ♪
1156
01:07:22,871 --> 01:07:24,205
♪ YayaY3Ya ♪
1157
01:07:26,958 --> 01:07:29,002
So immediately
we changed the show.
1158
01:07:29,085 --> 01:07:30,962
Reviews were great.
Everything was going well.
1159
01:07:31,046 --> 01:07:33,423
And then we started working
to try to get a record deal.
1160
01:07:33,506 --> 01:07:35,175
Nobody would touch Tina Turner.
1161
01:07:35,925 --> 01:07:37,927
- When I first started
1162
01:07:38,011 --> 01:07:41,014
trying to look for a deal
with Tina,
1163
01:07:41,639 --> 01:07:44,142
the general feeling was "ls
she still with that guy lke?"
1164
01:07:44,225 --> 01:07:46,311
No one had any idea.
1165
01:07:46,394 --> 01:07:49,397
Tina needed to be exposed as--
she's a solo artist.
1166
01:07:49,481 --> 01:07:51,357
She's not associated with Ike.
1167
01:07:52,275 --> 01:07:54,235
- Roger came to me,
1168
01:07:54,319 --> 01:07:57,906
asking me if I would be
willing to give the story
1169
01:07:57,989 --> 01:07:59,074
to the press,
1170
01:07:59,324 --> 01:08:01,743
and I was afraid to...
1171
01:08:02,911 --> 01:08:04,954
put it out because of...
1172
01:08:05,413 --> 01:08:07,582
what I might receive from Ike.
1173
01:08:17,092 --> 01:08:19,052
- I didn't really know
too much about
1174
01:08:19,135 --> 01:08:21,554
the backstory,
and nobody knew
1175
01:08:21,638 --> 01:08:24,265
about the traumas
that she went through.
1176
01:08:24,641 --> 01:08:27,894
You know, I just was looking
for a simple comeback story.
1177
01:08:27,977 --> 01:08:29,771
Little did I know, you know,
1178
01:08:29,854 --> 01:08:32,899
there was this whole legend
that came about.
1179
01:08:36,402 --> 01:08:38,488
- I didn't know
what to expect.
1180
01:08:40,740 --> 01:08:42,909
I wanted to stop people
from. ..
1181
01:08:42,992 --> 01:08:45,411
Thinking that Ike and Tina
was so positive.
1182
01:08:45,495 --> 01:08:47,330
I mean, it was--it was...
1183
01:08:47,413 --> 01:08:50,542
that we were such a love team
or a great team,
1184
01:08:50,625 --> 01:08:52,418
and it wasn't like that.
1185
01:08:52,794 --> 01:08:55,296
So I thought, if nothing else,
1186
01:08:55,380 --> 01:08:57,632
at least people would know.
1187
01:09:01,845 --> 01:09:03,388
- Tina Turner is a legend,
1188
01:09:03,471 --> 01:09:06,391
a major influence
on rock stars like Rod Stewart
1189
01:09:06,474 --> 01:09:07,684
and Mick Jagger.
1190
01:09:07,851 --> 01:09:10,270
Once, she was teamed
with her husband Ike.
1191
01:09:10,353 --> 01:09:11,896
Now she's on her own,
1192
01:09:11,980 --> 01:09:14,232
trying to establish herself
as a star once again.
1193
01:09:14,983 --> 01:09:16,818
- My life with Ike
1194
01:09:16,901 --> 01:09:19,821
was one that a lot of, maybe,
people are familiar with--
1195
01:09:19,904 --> 01:09:21,322
husbands that--
1196
01:09:21,406 --> 01:09:24,242
that practice brutality.
Uaughs]
1197
01:09:24,325 --> 01:09:25,618
- Yeah?
- Yeah.
1198
01:09:26,286 --> 01:09:29,372
- Nobody talked
about sexual abuse,
1199
01:09:29,455 --> 01:09:31,958
physical abuse,
domestic abuse.
1200
01:09:32,041 --> 01:09:33,334
Abuse, period.
1201
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,505
Our generation
is the generation
1202
01:09:37,589 --> 01:09:41,426
that started to break
the silence.
1203
01:09:43,595 --> 01:09:46,514
- Tina--she couldn't
voice her own opinion.
1204
01:09:46,598 --> 01:09:48,683
Everything that she did
was Ike.
1205
01:09:49,017 --> 01:09:53,229
- The idea of Tina
as a presence on her own
1206
01:09:53,313 --> 01:09:56,608
and having escaped--
people loved that story.
1207
01:09:56,691 --> 01:10:00,028
They wanted to--you know,
here was somebody to root for.
1208
01:10:01,654 --> 01:10:03,072
- Once the word was out,
1209
01:10:03,156 --> 01:10:05,033
we met a guy called Carter,
1210
01:10:05,116 --> 01:10:08,369
John Carter, at Capitol,
who believed in her.
1211
01:10:08,703 --> 01:10:11,372
- I had always been interested
in artists
1212
01:10:11,456 --> 01:10:13,208
that no one else
was interested in.
1213
01:10:13,708 --> 01:10:16,085
Once a star, always a threat,
1214
01:10:16,169 --> 01:10:18,129
and that's the way
I felt about Tina.
1215
01:10:18,213 --> 01:10:19,923
- So you play that thing,
you're playing that,
1216
01:10:20,006 --> 01:10:21,466
and you're playing
that strum under me,
1217
01:10:21,549 --> 01:10:23,426
and we move downstage
with that.
1218
01:10:23,509 --> 01:10:25,136
Let's just get that right.
That's exactly what...
1219
01:10:25,220 --> 01:10:27,138
- Carter basically gave us
1220
01:10:27,222 --> 01:10:29,224
a development deal.
1221
01:10:29,724 --> 01:10:31,726
We tried probably
eight or ten tracks,
1222
01:10:31,809 --> 01:10:33,228
still trying to find our way.
1223
01:10:33,311 --> 01:10:34,854
We never got quite there.
1224
01:10:34,938 --> 01:10:36,689
- Stay under me there,
but just come down.
1225
01:10:36,773 --> 01:10:39,067
Keep the pulse under me.
Don't lose the...
1226
01:10:39,150 --> 01:10:40,777
- We record a few things,
1227
01:10:40,860 --> 01:10:43,613
and as much as Roger and I
would get enthusiastic
1228
01:10:43,696 --> 01:10:45,949
about a song here
and a song there,
1229
01:10:46,032 --> 01:10:49,369
it was never really the body
of work that we needed.
1230
01:10:51,579 --> 01:10:54,499
- And then one day,
Carter rang me up,
1231
01:10:54,582 --> 01:10:57,961
beside himself, because there'd
been a change of management
1232
01:10:58,044 --> 01:10:59,504
at Capitol Records.
1233
01:10:59,796 --> 01:11:02,048
And they'd been in a meeting,
and they'd been going through
1234
01:11:02,131 --> 01:11:04,759
the roster of artists,
|guess,andu.
1235
01:11:04,968 --> 01:11:08,930
The new management didn't want
Tina on the label.
1236
01:11:09,013 --> 01:11:11,391
The new regime comes in...
1237
01:11:11,474 --> 01:11:13,810
- And like any new regime,
1238
01:11:13,893 --> 01:11:16,187
they got their own idea
about what they want to do.
1239
01:11:16,271 --> 01:11:19,232
- Right.
- So I flip out.
1240
01:11:19,315 --> 01:11:23,903
I go downstairs, and I said,
"Hey, this is my act,"
1241
01:11:23,987 --> 01:11:26,281
and the classic quote is,
1242
01:11:26,698 --> 01:11:29,701
"Carter, you signed this
old nigger douchebag?"
1243
01:11:29,784 --> 01:11:31,911
- Whoa. Whoa.
- "Yeah.
1244
01:11:31,995 --> 01:11:34,163
"Yeah, I did, and I'm
really happy about it.
1245
01:11:34,247 --> 01:11:36,332
Now, pick up the phone
and call Roger Davies."
1246
01:11:36,416 --> 01:11:38,334
- Wow.
- He said, "No fuckin' way."
1247
01:11:38,668 --> 01:11:41,254
And I get on my knees,
and I said,
1248
01:11:41,337 --> 01:11:43,089
"I'm now gonna beg you,
1249
01:11:43,172 --> 01:11:46,467
and I'm not gonna get up
until you pick up the phone."
1250
01:11:46,968 --> 01:11:50,388
[chuckles] And there was
a long stare-down,
1251
01:11:51,014 --> 01:11:53,349
and he picks up the phone.
- Wow.
1252
01:11:53,808 --> 01:11:56,644
- Well, he says,
"Okay, back on the roster."
1253
01:11:56,728 --> 01:11:58,563
"You finish your record.
1254
01:11:58,646 --> 01:12:01,441
"But you understand
that we're gonna do nothing!
1255
01:12:01,524 --> 01:12:03,234
That's all there is."
1256
01:12:07,238 --> 01:12:09,741
♪ ♪
1257
01:12:32,597 --> 01:12:35,308
♪ ♪
1258
01:12:35,391 --> 01:12:37,268
I was held back
1259
01:12:38,144 --> 01:12:40,146
for a very long time...
1260
01:12:41,356 --> 01:12:43,316
but I didn't suffer
from those things,
1261
01:12:43,399 --> 01:12:45,568
and it's not necessary
to suffer about that
1262
01:12:45,651 --> 01:12:48,321
because what can you do
about it, you know?
1263
01:12:48,863 --> 01:12:50,740
So I didn't think
about those things.
1264
01:12:50,823 --> 01:12:53,326
♪ ♪
1265
01:12:53,451 --> 01:12:56,037
- She always had a belief
it was gonna be okay.
1266
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,707
And I think you have to have
that belief to keep going.
1267
01:13:00,208 --> 01:13:04,670
♪ ♪
1268
01:13:04,962 --> 01:13:07,215
Radio, as you know,
in America
1269
01:13:07,298 --> 01:13:09,008
was very categorized,
and there's pop,
1270
01:13:09,092 --> 01:13:11,677
and there's R&B, there's urban,
and there's hot AC,
1271
01:13:11,761 --> 01:13:13,638
and she wanted to sing rock.
1272
01:13:13,930 --> 01:13:17,475
And that wasn't really
what they thought would work.
1273
01:13:18,142 --> 01:13:20,770
And that's when we knew
that it had to be England,
1274
01:13:20,853 --> 01:13:22,730
'cause England and Europe
got her.
1275
01:13:28,736 --> 01:13:31,781
♪ ♪
1276
01:13:32,115 --> 01:13:33,908
- It was London.
1277
01:13:33,991 --> 01:13:37,578
It was another
whole experience
1278
01:13:38,121 --> 01:13:39,580
from America.
1279
01:13:39,956 --> 01:13:41,999
You know, it felt like home.
1280
01:13:42,083 --> 01:13:44,293
It felt so comfortable
1281
01:13:44,377 --> 01:13:46,963
that I could have been there
all my life.
1282
01:13:47,046 --> 01:13:49,674
♪ ♪
1283
01:13:49,757 --> 01:13:52,885
Well, I didn't have
that many friends in America
1284
01:13:52,969 --> 01:13:55,263
because, of course, Ike.
1285
01:13:55,346 --> 01:13:57,765
And then when I left Ike,
1286
01:13:58,599 --> 01:14:01,436
immediately I went to work.
1287
01:14:01,519 --> 01:14:03,938
♪ ♪
1288
01:14:04,021 --> 01:14:06,774
My sons were at home.
They were fine.
1289
01:14:07,525 --> 01:14:09,610
My oldest was 28.
1290
01:14:10,069 --> 01:14:12,655
My youngest was moving
well into his middle 20s.
1291
01:14:12,738 --> 01:14:14,365
So not really kids anymore.
1292
01:14:15,450 --> 01:14:17,410
I left everything
and everybody behind.
1293
01:14:17,743 --> 01:14:20,121
I needed every minute
of my brains
1294
01:14:20,830 --> 01:14:22,748
to map my life together.
1295
01:14:22,832 --> 01:14:24,792
Fellas, do you know
what we're doing today?
1296
01:14:24,876 --> 01:14:26,961
- It's almost like
she had a coming of age
1297
01:14:27,044 --> 01:14:29,046
at 40 years old--
1298
01:14:29,130 --> 01:14:31,215
the fact
that she has this voice,
1299
01:14:31,299 --> 01:14:33,426
this incredible,
incredible voice,
1300
01:14:33,759 --> 01:14:36,012
I would say the industry
didn't even really know
1301
01:14:36,095 --> 01:14:37,388
what to do with.
1302
01:14:38,723 --> 01:14:41,184
- Roger could see
what could be done
1303
01:14:41,267 --> 01:14:42,935
when other people
couldn't imagine
1304
01:14:43,019 --> 01:14:44,270
what it could become.
1305
01:14:44,353 --> 01:14:45,605
So there's this new
1306
01:14:45,688 --> 01:14:47,732
kind of production technique
in England.
1307
01:14:47,815 --> 01:14:50,359
There are these new people
that are getting new sounds,
1308
01:14:50,443 --> 01:14:52,111
and you should be
part of that.
1309
01:14:52,195 --> 01:14:54,405
♪ ♪
1310
01:14:54,489 --> 01:14:56,073
- I was collecting songs.
1311
01:14:56,157 --> 01:14:57,783
I used to carry around
this leather bag
1312
01:14:57,867 --> 01:15:00,411
full of cassettes
and asking a bunch of people
1313
01:15:00,495 --> 01:15:02,288
and, you know, Terry Britten,
1314
01:15:02,371 --> 01:15:04,290
he was a bit of
a hero of mine,
1315
01:15:04,373 --> 01:15:07,585
and he had songs
I think might work for Tina.
1316
01:15:08,461 --> 01:15:09,545
- Roger's tea.
1317
01:15:13,257 --> 01:15:14,926
- "What's Love" is probably
the worst demo
1318
01:15:15,009 --> 01:15:16,969
I've ever done to this date.
1319
01:15:17,053 --> 01:15:19,514
I mean, there's no, uh...
1320
01:15:19,597 --> 01:15:21,265
bee-doo-bee-doo--
none of that stuff.
1321
01:15:21,349 --> 01:15:23,976
Very white, very pop,
1322
01:15:24,060 --> 01:15:28,356
and nothing remotely
would say "Tina Turner."
1323
01:15:29,690 --> 01:15:31,275
Originally, it did go
1324
01:15:31,359 --> 01:15:33,778
to an English band
called Bucks Fizz,
1325
01:15:33,903 --> 01:15:35,988
who were really popular
at the time,
1326
01:15:36,072 --> 01:15:37,823
and I think they actually
recorded it.
1327
01:15:37,907 --> 01:15:40,326
- ♪ Oh, oh, oh, what's love ♪
1328
01:15:40,660 --> 01:15:43,287
♪ Got to do,
got to do with it? ♪
1329
01:15:44,163 --> 01:15:48,125
♪ What's love
but a second-hand emotion? ♪
1330
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,046
- I was convinced.
I thought "What's Love" was...
1331
01:15:52,338 --> 01:15:54,048
It could be a big song.
1332
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:56,634
Tina never really liked it.
1333
01:15:56,968 --> 01:15:59,387
- [laughs] It was terrible.
It was awful.
1334
01:15:59,470 --> 01:16:01,138
It was...
1335
01:16:01,222 --> 01:16:03,307
I was rock and roll.
1336
01:16:03,391 --> 01:16:04,976
I was not...
1337
01:16:05,476 --> 01:16:07,186
That was a pop song.
1338
01:16:08,145 --> 01:16:10,273
So Roger says, "All right,
all right, all right.
1339
01:16:10,356 --> 01:16:12,108
"Just one thing--
you got to meet Terry Britten.
1340
01:16:12,191 --> 01:16:13,859
"You got to meet him,
'cause he's a great writer,
1341
01:16:13,943 --> 01:16:15,444
and maybe he can make some
adjustments or whatever,"
1342
01:16:15,528 --> 01:16:16,696
and I went, "All right."
1343
01:16:16,779 --> 01:16:18,698
♪ ♪
1344
01:16:18,781 --> 01:16:21,492
We walked in, and I didn't
know what to expect.
1345
01:16:21,617 --> 01:16:23,452
And Terry was like
a little leprechaun.
1346
01:16:23,536 --> 01:16:25,288
I mean, he's very short.
1347
01:16:25,371 --> 01:16:27,248
He was sitting there,
and his legs were hanging.
1348
01:16:27,331 --> 01:16:29,709
[laughs] Something
about his legs hanging
1349
01:16:29,792 --> 01:16:30,918
that I remember.
1350
01:16:31,002 --> 01:16:33,087
- She came in,
and immediately she said,
1351
01:16:33,170 --> 01:16:34,755
"Well, you know
I don't like that song,
1352
01:16:34,839 --> 01:16:36,591
"and I don't want to do
that song.
1353
01:16:36,674 --> 01:16:38,342
It's Roger
that wants me to do it."
1354
01:16:38,676 --> 01:16:40,928
I said, "Well, you know,
if it doesn't work out,
1355
01:16:41,012 --> 01:16:43,139
you won't use it,
so let's give it a go."
1356
01:16:47,435 --> 01:16:50,313
- I had to find a way to sing
the song, so he would say,
1357
01:16:50,396 --> 01:16:53,107
"Tina, sing this
how you would sing it."
1358
01:16:53,190 --> 01:16:54,442
So, okay.
1359
01:16:54,650 --> 01:16:58,195
Then I applied
my heavy voice to it, and...
1360
01:16:58,863 --> 01:17:00,156
♪ Makes my pulse react ♪
1361
01:17:00,239 --> 01:17:01,991
- She was trying to get
her head around it,
1362
01:17:02,074 --> 01:17:04,327
how's this little...
doop-dih-dih-dih work
1363
01:17:04,410 --> 01:17:05,911
sort of thing,
1364
01:17:05,995 --> 01:17:09,123
and I said to her,
"Tina, this is a jog."
1365
01:17:09,457 --> 01:17:12,668
And we both stood and jogged.
1366
01:17:12,752 --> 01:17:15,921
And she was singing loud,
and I went, "Quieter, quiet--"
1367
01:17:16,005 --> 01:17:18,883
She said, "If I go any quieter,
I'll be whispering."
1368
01:17:18,966 --> 01:17:22,053
I said, "Yeah, that's it,"
and we start to jog on this.
1369
01:17:22,136 --> 01:17:25,514
Suddenly she went, "I got it,
I got it, I got it."
1370
01:17:25,598 --> 01:17:28,184
- ♪ Oh, oh, oh, what's love ♪
1371
01:17:28,267 --> 01:17:31,020
♪ Got to do,
got to do with it? ♪
1372
01:17:31,896 --> 01:17:36,609
♪ What's love
but a second-hand emotion? ♪
1373
01:17:36,692 --> 01:17:39,111
♪ What's love got to do ♪
1374
01:17:39,195 --> 01:17:40,946
♪ Got to do with it? ♪
1375
01:17:41,030 --> 01:17:42,782
♪ Who needs a heart ♪
1376
01:17:42,865 --> 01:17:45,660
♪ When a heart
can be broken? ♪
1377
01:17:46,035 --> 01:17:48,746
- I was stunned afterwards,
after the session.
1378
01:17:49,413 --> 01:17:51,791
- They weren't used to
a strong voice
1379
01:17:51,874 --> 01:17:53,417
standing on top of music.
1380
01:17:53,584 --> 01:17:56,253
But I converted it
and made it my own.
1381
01:17:56,337 --> 01:18:00,132
♪ If I tend to look dazed,
I read it some place ♪
1382
01:18:00,216 --> 01:18:02,510
♪ I've got cause to be ♪
1383
01:18:02,593 --> 01:18:05,179
♪ There's a name for it ♪
1384
01:18:05,471 --> 01:18:07,348
- She said, "You know what?
People are gonna say,
1385
01:18:07,431 --> 01:18:08,974
"'This is a Tina Turner song.
1386
01:18:09,058 --> 01:18:11,268
"'It's not Tina doing a cover.
1387
01:18:11,894 --> 01:18:13,312
This is Tina Turner's song."'
1388
01:18:13,437 --> 01:18:16,857
- ♪ But whatever the reason,
you do it for me ♪
1389
01:18:16,941 --> 01:18:19,694
♪ Oh, oh, oh, what's love ♪
1390
01:18:19,777 --> 01:18:21,779
♪ Got to do,
got to do with it? A'
1391
01:18:21,862 --> 01:18:24,407
I knocked that album out
in two weeks in the studio.
1392
01:18:24,949 --> 01:18:26,992
Done. Finished.
1393
01:18:27,868 --> 01:18:30,246
- We just went
from studio to studio,
1394
01:18:30,329 --> 01:18:32,665
and, literally, two or three
weeks, the album was done.
1395
01:18:32,748 --> 01:18:35,376
We turned up with an album
that sold 20 million copies.
1396
01:18:35,459 --> 01:18:37,461
- E ...can be broken? 3
1397
01:18:37,837 --> 01:18:40,089
- When the album was out
and we were in New York
1398
01:18:40,172 --> 01:18:43,384
at Tower Records
doing a record signing,
1399
01:18:43,551 --> 01:18:46,470
and I got the call
from our record company
1400
01:18:46,554 --> 01:18:49,348
that "What's Love" had gone
to number one on "Billboard."
1401
01:18:49,724 --> 01:18:51,642
- In Tower Record?
- This was in Tower Records.
1402
01:18:51,726 --> 01:18:53,269
And I just jumped up,
and I said to everybody,
1403
01:18:53,352 --> 01:18:55,438
"It's number one,"
and they all started cheering.
1404
01:18:55,521 --> 01:18:57,690
It was wonderful.
- You know when you said that,
1405
01:18:57,773 --> 01:18:59,316
I honestly have to tell you--
I know it's gonna
1406
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,444
sound real corny, but I mean
it--when I saw you say that
1407
01:19:01,527 --> 01:19:03,028
last night that this
went number one today,
1408
01:19:03,112 --> 01:19:04,780
I just, like,
burst into tears,
1409
01:19:04,864 --> 01:19:07,199
because to me, it was like,
1410
01:19:07,283 --> 01:19:09,326
there is some justice
after all.
1411
01:19:09,410 --> 01:19:11,120
I don't know if you feel
that way about it,
1412
01:19:11,203 --> 01:19:13,789
but it was very moving.
- Oh, number one.
1413
01:19:14,582 --> 01:19:17,209
♪ Oh, oh, oh, what's love ♪
1414
01:19:17,293 --> 01:19:19,795
♪ Got to do,
got to do with it? ♪
1415
01:19:20,838 --> 01:19:22,381
♪ What's love ♪
1416
01:19:22,465 --> 01:19:25,050
♪ But a second-hand emotion? ♪
1417
01:19:25,593 --> 01:19:27,970
♪ What's love got to do ♪
1418
01:19:28,053 --> 01:19:29,472
♪ Got to do with it? ♪
1419
01:19:29,805 --> 01:19:31,974
♪ Who needs a heart ♪
1420
01:19:32,057 --> 01:19:34,143
♪ When a heart can be broken? ♪
1421
01:19:34,226 --> 01:19:36,562
Crowd:
♪ What's love got to do ♪
1422
01:19:36,645 --> 01:19:39,106
- S Ooh, ooh S
- And the record of the year
1423
01:19:39,148 --> 01:19:41,484
is, "What's Love Got To
Do With |t"--Tina Turner!
1424
01:19:54,079 --> 01:19:56,624
- My goodness, this has been
a wonderful evening.
1425
01:19:56,707 --> 01:19:59,126
I'd like to take this award
1426
01:19:59,960 --> 01:20:02,588
and give it to someone
that's been
1427
01:20:02,671 --> 01:20:05,049
wonderful to me as a friend
1428
01:20:05,257 --> 01:20:07,885
and in business
and in many ways--
1429
01:20:07,968 --> 01:20:09,762
my manager, Roger Davies.
1430
01:20:09,845 --> 01:20:12,890
It's been a wonderful year.
1431
01:20:16,143 --> 01:20:17,853
- My "Private Dancer" album--
1432
01:20:17,937 --> 01:20:19,939
no, I don't consider it
a comeback album.
1433
01:20:20,022 --> 01:20:22,358
Tina had never arrived.
1434
01:20:22,441 --> 01:20:25,194
It was Tina's debut
for the first time,
1435
01:20:25,277 --> 01:20:27,112
and this was my first album.
1436
01:20:27,655 --> 01:20:29,323
- Tina Turner!
1437
01:20:30,324 --> 01:20:32,409
- Tina Turner!
1438
01:20:36,872 --> 01:20:38,707
- They'd reached
a stage where,
1439
01:20:38,791 --> 01:20:41,961
after "Private Dancer,"
it was unbelievably big.
1440
01:20:42,962 --> 01:20:45,089
It was a runaway train.
1441
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,093
- When you're hot, you're hot,
and this lady is the hottest.
1442
01:20:49,176 --> 01:20:50,719
Here's...
- Tina Turner!
1443
01:20:53,514 --> 01:20:55,140
- I had my boyfriend
standing in line
1444
01:20:55,182 --> 01:20:56,684
since 3 in the morning
to get these tickets.
1445
01:20:56,725 --> 01:20:58,018
I says, "That's it,
the relationship's over
1446
01:20:58,102 --> 01:20:59,728
unless you get me
these tickets."
1447
01:20:59,812 --> 01:21:01,522
- And if she isn't sexy,
I don't know who is.
1448
01:21:01,605 --> 01:21:03,732
Tina Turner.
1449
01:21:03,816 --> 01:21:05,192
- Stupenda, stupenda.
1450
01:21:08,737 --> 01:21:12,032
Tina Turner.
1451
01:21:12,741 --> 01:21:14,869
- On "Private Dancer, "
I think we ended up doing
1452
01:21:14,952 --> 01:21:16,620
150 concerts.
1453
01:21:19,164 --> 01:21:21,250
And then we went on
to break every rule.
1454
01:21:23,335 --> 01:21:26,046
On that album, we did the
biggest tour we've ever done.
1455
01:21:26,463 --> 01:21:29,675
We played 230 shows
in 18 months
1456
01:21:29,758 --> 01:21:31,302
everywhere in the world.
1457
01:21:32,011 --> 01:21:34,430
♪ ♪
1458
01:21:34,597 --> 01:21:38,601
This 50-year-old woman
playing stadiums
1459
01:21:38,684 --> 01:21:40,853
throughout Europe
and having an audience
1460
01:21:40,936 --> 01:21:44,064
ranging from about 15 to 60
was pretty amazing.
1461
01:21:44,148 --> 01:21:45,941
- She makes you
feel young.
1462
01:21:46,025 --> 01:21:47,651
She's alive.
She's bouncing.
1463
01:21:47,776 --> 01:21:49,320
I can't wait for them
to come back.
1464
01:21:50,905 --> 01:21:53,532
- When I'm onstage
and it's, like, 20,000 people,
1465
01:21:53,616 --> 01:21:55,868
then you know that
it's all worthwhile, you know?
1466
01:21:55,951 --> 01:21:58,078
But it's really a lot
that goes on behind the scenes
1467
01:21:58,162 --> 01:21:59,455
when--I've never
been this big before,
1468
01:21:59,538 --> 01:22:00,956
you know what I mean?
And you...
1469
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:02,958
Ah, it's just incredible.
1470
01:22:03,375 --> 01:22:04,668
- We didn't stop.
1471
01:22:05,085 --> 01:22:07,713
We played the small holes.
We played the clubs.
1472
01:22:07,838 --> 01:22:10,257
We did all the TVs.
We got to arenas.
1473
01:22:10,341 --> 01:22:11,842
We eventually
fulfilled her dream
1474
01:22:11,926 --> 01:22:13,844
and filled the stadiums.
1475
01:22:14,386 --> 01:22:16,597
That concert in Rio,
1476
01:22:16,764 --> 01:22:18,974
there was
186,000 people there.
1477
01:22:21,226 --> 01:22:24,146
Crowd: Tina, Tina, Tina,
Tina, Tina, Tina!
1478
01:22:24,229 --> 01:22:25,940
- Hello, Rio!
1479
01:22:28,359 --> 01:22:29,610
Give it to me!
1480
01:22:29,693 --> 01:22:30,986
Hello, Rio!
1481
01:22:34,198 --> 01:22:36,241
Mwah! Mwah! Mwah!
1482
01:22:37,576 --> 01:22:39,286
You can't imagine
what it was like for me
1483
01:22:39,370 --> 01:22:41,330
to finally stand there in
front of all of those people.
1484
01:22:41,413 --> 01:22:43,415
It's a feeling of like,
"I did it,"
1485
01:22:43,499 --> 01:22:45,459
and it's really genuine.
1486
01:22:45,542 --> 01:22:47,962
It's almost like magic,
because you're standing there
1487
01:22:48,045 --> 01:22:50,130
and they're really
giving you love.
1488
01:22:50,839 --> 01:22:52,299
Are you ready?
1489
01:22:52,383 --> 01:22:54,718
Are you ready for me?
1490
01:22:56,470 --> 01:22:58,681
I'm ready for you.
Hello!
1491
01:23:01,433 --> 01:23:05,813
♪ ♪
1492
01:23:18,826 --> 01:23:20,119
♪ | ♪
1493
01:23:20,202 --> 01:23:23,080
♪ I can't stand the rain ♪
1494
01:23:23,664 --> 01:23:25,749
♪ Against my window I
1495
01:23:27,918 --> 01:23:30,546
♪ Bringing back
sweet memories ♪
1496
01:23:31,088 --> 01:23:33,424
♪ I can't stand the rain ♪
1497
01:23:33,507 --> 01:23:35,217
♪ Do you remember ♪
1498
01:23:37,845 --> 01:23:39,680
♪ How sweet it used to be? ♪
1499
01:23:40,848 --> 01:23:42,933
♪ ♪
1500
01:23:43,517 --> 01:23:45,978
♪ When we were together ♪
1501
01:23:46,061 --> 01:23:47,896
♪ ♪
1502
01:23:48,355 --> 01:23:51,358
♪ Everything was so grand ♪
1503
01:23:51,442 --> 01:23:53,527
♪ ♪
1504
01:23:54,069 --> 01:23:56,697
♪ Now that we've parted ♪
1505
01:23:57,614 --> 01:23:59,950
♪ There's the one sound ♪
- ♪ One sound ♪
1506
01:24:00,451 --> 01:24:02,119
- ♪ Just can't stand ♪
1507
01:24:02,494 --> 01:24:04,288
♪ Can't stand the rain ♪
1508
01:24:05,414 --> 01:24:07,166
♪ Against my window I
1509
01:24:07,416 --> 01:24:09,626
♪ ♪
1510
01:24:09,793 --> 01:24:11,795
♪ Bringing back
sweet memories ♪
1511
01:24:12,755 --> 01:24:14,465
♪ I can't stand the rain ♪
1512
01:24:16,091 --> 01:24:18,010
♪ Against my window I
1513
01:24:18,093 --> 01:24:20,387
♪ ♪
1514
01:24:20,471 --> 01:24:22,264
♪ If he ain't here
with me ♪
1515
01:24:23,390 --> 01:24:24,558
♪ Well ♪
1516
01:24:25,893 --> 01:24:28,979
♪ When we were younger ♪
1517
01:24:29,063 --> 01:24:31,023
- ♪ We were younger ♪
1518
01:24:31,106 --> 01:24:33,859
- ♪ Everything was so grand ♪
1519
01:24:33,942 --> 01:24:35,527
-J'Oh ♪
1520
01:24:36,445 --> 01:24:37,613
-J'Ah ♪
1521
01:24:37,946 --> 01:24:40,032
♪ Bringing back
them sweet memories ♪
1522
01:24:40,657 --> 01:24:42,242
♪ One sound ♪
- ♪ One sound ♪
1523
01:24:42,326 --> 01:24:44,912
- ♪ I just can't stand ♪
1524
01:24:44,995 --> 01:24:46,830
IRanl
-IRanl
1525
01:24:47,581 --> 01:24:49,541
-IRanl
-IRanl
1526
01:24:50,084 --> 01:24:51,794
-IRanl
-IRanl
1527
01:24:52,836 --> 01:24:55,089
-IRanl
- ♪ Whoo-hoo ♪
1528
01:25:01,929 --> 01:25:03,097
Thank you!
1529
01:25:35,504 --> 01:25:38,715
- In 1985, she signed on to do
the third "Mad Max" movie,
1530
01:25:38,799 --> 01:25:40,342
"Beyond Thunderdome."
1531
01:25:40,425 --> 01:25:42,136
"Rolling Stone"
sent me in to cover this.
1532
01:25:42,219 --> 01:25:43,720
I said, "Great,
I'd love to cover this."
1533
01:25:45,097 --> 01:25:47,391
She was the biggest
pop star in the world.
1534
01:25:47,683 --> 01:25:50,102
I mean, it was already clear
there were gonna be people
1535
01:25:50,185 --> 01:25:51,979
doing these quickie bios
of Tina Turner,
1536
01:25:52,062 --> 01:25:53,480
which I thought
was really tacky.
1537
01:25:53,564 --> 01:25:55,232
So I got over there,
I talked to Roger,
1538
01:25:55,315 --> 01:25:58,235
I said, "You know,
maybe you should have someone
1539
01:25:58,318 --> 01:26:01,113
"do a book, you know,
do an actual biography.
1540
01:26:01,196 --> 01:26:03,657
And could be me.
I mean, could be anybody."
1541
01:26:03,740 --> 01:26:05,325
You know?
I don't want to be pushy.
1542
01:26:05,409 --> 01:26:06,952
- You pitched that?
- Oh, yeah.
1543
01:26:07,035 --> 01:26:10,205
Well, I brought up the
possibility of doing something
1544
01:26:10,289 --> 01:26:13,167
to forestall all these bad books
that would be coming out.
1545
01:26:14,001 --> 01:26:16,628
- When she became successful,
1546
01:26:16,795 --> 01:26:19,548
the past came up,
and it got a lot of press,
1547
01:26:19,631 --> 01:26:22,259
'cause she was also
hugely popular.
1548
01:26:22,342 --> 01:26:24,636
People continued
to ask about Ike.
1549
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,264
Even after she had
had huge solo success,
1550
01:26:27,347 --> 01:26:29,099
they'd bring up
the same old stuff
1551
01:26:29,183 --> 01:26:30,893
over and over
in every interview.
1552
01:26:30,976 --> 01:26:32,186
We couldn't stop it.
1553
01:26:32,269 --> 01:26:33,729
- Ike was arrested
1554
01:26:33,812 --> 01:26:36,815
on some cocaine charges
in Pasadena.
1555
01:26:36,899 --> 01:26:38,192
Yeah, for possession
1556
01:26:38,275 --> 01:26:41,528
and conspiracy,
possibly for dealing.
1557
01:26:42,112 --> 01:26:44,156
Any reaction to that?
1558
01:26:44,239 --> 01:26:47,659
- You know, I'd like
to hear all positive things.
1559
01:26:47,743 --> 01:26:49,786
I'd love to hear that Ike
had a record deal
1560
01:26:49,870 --> 01:26:52,122
and he was producing
an album on himself.
1561
01:26:56,335 --> 01:26:57,502
— Right.
1562
01:27:11,975 --> 01:27:13,310
Yeah.
1563
01:27:16,939 --> 01:27:18,565
- I think, as she said
at the time,
1564
01:27:18,649 --> 01:27:20,400
"I can do this and not have
to talk about it again."
1565
01:27:20,484 --> 01:27:22,110
"Everybody's talking about it.
1566
01:27:22,194 --> 01:27:24,404
"Everybody has this idea
about it, it's this or that.
1567
01:27:24,488 --> 01:27:26,240
"I know what happened.
I'll say what happened,
1568
01:27:26,323 --> 01:27:28,242
and I won't have to
address it again."
1569
01:27:29,368 --> 01:27:31,662
- A long line of fans
waited outside
1570
01:27:31,745 --> 01:27:33,747
a Barnes & Noble bookstore
for Tina.
1571
01:27:33,830 --> 01:27:36,458
The soulful singer
is now also an author,
1572
01:27:36,541 --> 01:27:38,460
and she was in town,
anxious and willing
1573
01:27:38,543 --> 01:27:40,587
to autograph
a few hundred copies.
1574
01:27:40,671 --> 01:27:42,756
- It was worth getting sweaty,
going up there,
1575
01:27:42,839 --> 01:27:44,633
pushing people,
getting them out the way,
1576
01:27:44,716 --> 01:27:46,134
seeing Tina Turner--
I love her.
1577
01:27:46,218 --> 01:27:47,344
What's love got to do with it?
1578
01:27:47,719 --> 01:27:50,389
- Tina's book, by the way,
tracing her rise
1579
01:27:50,472 --> 01:27:53,308
and fall and rise again
is titled "|, Tina."
1580
01:27:54,685 --> 01:27:57,187
- It was a top ten
"New York Times" bestseller
1581
01:27:57,271 --> 01:27:59,147
strictly because of
Tina Turner.
1582
01:27:59,231 --> 01:28:00,857
I mean, they could put
an empty book out
1583
01:28:00,941 --> 01:28:03,485
with her picture on the cover.
That book would have sold.
1584
01:28:04,278 --> 01:28:07,781
- She just felt maybe
it'll put it to bed
1585
01:28:07,864 --> 01:28:09,491
once and for all,
1586
01:28:09,574 --> 01:28:10,909
which, of course, it didn't.
1587
01:28:10,993 --> 01:28:12,286
It just made it bigger.
1588
01:28:12,369 --> 01:28:14,371
- Albuquerque, New Mexico.
Hello.
1589
01:28:14,454 --> 01:28:16,123
- I read your book,
1590
01:28:16,206 --> 01:28:18,125
and it's totally
changed my life.
1591
01:28:18,208 --> 01:28:20,335
I love you.
I thank you.
1592
01:28:21,503 --> 01:28:24,381
- That story
reached so many people
1593
01:28:24,589 --> 01:28:27,426
who felt like they had to
kind of keep their secrets
1594
01:28:27,509 --> 01:28:28,677
locked away deep down.
1595
01:28:29,553 --> 01:28:31,888
But then I wonder,
I think of, like--
1596
01:28:31,972 --> 01:28:34,433
It's like a Pandora's Box
situation, right?
1597
01:28:34,516 --> 01:28:36,643
Like, "Damn, I got to tell
the story again?"
1598
01:28:41,231 --> 01:28:43,650
- And then the film came out
1599
01:28:43,734 --> 01:28:47,195
and just kind of brought
more attention to her name
1600
01:28:47,654 --> 01:28:50,615
for people to see
what happened and everything.
1601
01:28:50,699 --> 01:28:52,492
- What'd you say?
- Don't start with me.
1602
01:28:52,576 --> 01:28:54,494
I ain't in the mood today,
all right?
1603
01:28:54,619 --> 01:28:56,455
- It's tangible in a sense.
You're watching it.
1604
01:28:56,538 --> 01:28:58,290
- I'll give up
all that other stuff
1605
01:28:58,373 --> 01:29:00,125
but only if I get to
keep my name.
1606
01:29:00,208 --> 01:29:02,210
I worked too hard for it,
Your Honor.
1607
01:29:02,586 --> 01:29:04,880
- And it just changed
everything for her.
1608
01:29:06,256 --> 01:29:08,508
- That role changed my life.
1609
01:29:09,509 --> 01:29:11,386
I mean, I'm not Tina,
1610
01:29:11,470 --> 01:29:15,265
and I've got so much love
1611
01:29:15,349 --> 01:29:17,976
from others--men, women--
who've come up and say,
1612
01:29:18,060 --> 01:29:21,021
"You playing her in that story
changed my life."
1613
01:29:23,523 --> 01:29:25,942
- The story goes out
into people's houses,
1614
01:29:26,026 --> 01:29:29,112
and then it becomes
a part of their life as well.
1615
01:29:29,196 --> 01:29:31,365
- It's Tina Day!
1616
01:29:31,448 --> 01:29:33,158
Whoo!
1617
01:29:33,241 --> 01:29:35,410
♪ ♪
1618
01:29:35,494 --> 01:29:38,205
- It's hard to wrap
your mind around
1619
01:29:38,288 --> 01:29:40,248
that your life has been
an inspiration--
1620
01:29:40,332 --> 01:29:41,750
maybe the worst parts
of your life
1621
01:29:41,833 --> 01:29:43,543
has been an inspiration.
1622
01:29:43,668 --> 01:29:46,463
- We have 50, 000 letters
downstairs from women
1623
01:29:46,546 --> 01:29:49,132
who have also been through it
and survived.
1624
01:29:49,216 --> 01:29:50,842
Tina did it.
So can you.
1625
01:29:50,926 --> 01:29:52,219
Let's celebrate.
1626
01:29:57,140 --> 01:29:59,351
- She's no longer
in control of that story.
1627
01:29:59,434 --> 01:30:01,520
That's what happens to icons.
1628
01:30:02,687 --> 01:30:05,399
Anna Mae Bullock
has her own life.
1629
01:30:05,690 --> 01:30:08,026
Tina Turner
belongs to the world.
1630
01:30:13,990 --> 01:30:18,829
♪ ♪
1631
01:30:23,959 --> 01:30:25,919
- Ms. Turner,
welcome to Venice.
1632
01:30:26,002 --> 01:30:28,380
Can you give me
your views on the film?
1633
01:30:29,131 --> 01:30:31,842
- Well, I haven't as yet
seen the film.
1634
01:30:35,554 --> 01:30:36,721
Well...
1635
01:30:37,889 --> 01:30:41,560
I'm not so thrilled
about thinking about the past
1636
01:30:41,643 --> 01:30:43,186
and how I lived my life.
1637
01:30:43,270 --> 01:30:46,440
It was made a story.
1638
01:30:46,523 --> 01:30:48,984
The story
was actually written
1639
01:30:49,067 --> 01:30:51,778
so that I would no longer
have to discuss the issue.
1640
01:30:51,862 --> 01:30:54,698
I don't love that it's always
talked about, you see?
1641
01:30:54,781 --> 01:30:58,577
I made a point of just putting
the news out to stop the thing
1642
01:30:58,660 --> 01:31:00,704
so that I could go on
with my life.
1643
01:31:00,787 --> 01:31:03,999
And this constant reminder
is not so good, you know.
1644
01:31:04,082 --> 01:31:06,126
I'm not so happy about it.
1645
01:31:06,209 --> 01:31:08,670
So do I want to sit and screen
1646
01:31:08,753 --> 01:31:11,047
and watch the violence
and all the brutality?
1647
01:31:11,131 --> 01:31:12,966
No. That's why
I haven't seen it.
1648
01:31:17,929 --> 01:31:20,140
- You know,
when you talk to journalists
1649
01:31:20,223 --> 01:31:23,810
over and over
for 20 or 30 or 40 years,
1650
01:31:23,894 --> 01:31:26,021
memories come back.
1651
01:31:26,104 --> 01:31:29,149
She has partly dreams
about it.
1652
01:31:29,232 --> 01:31:30,734
They're not pleasant.
1653
01:31:30,817 --> 01:31:32,360
So I think
these are these things
1654
01:31:32,444 --> 01:31:35,197
that come back to her
when she opens that book.
1655
01:31:35,572 --> 01:31:39,117
It's like when soldiers
come back from the war.
1656
01:31:39,451 --> 01:31:42,537
It's not a easy time to...
1657
01:31:42,621 --> 01:31:45,373
to have this in your memory,
and they try to forget.
1658
01:31:45,457 --> 01:31:47,334
I see it a little bit
like that.
1659
01:31:47,918 --> 01:31:50,170
- Tina today
is a world superstar.
1660
01:31:50,253 --> 01:31:52,255
But there was a point
where you had to become
1661
01:31:52,339 --> 01:31:53,965
the comeback kid.
1662
01:31:54,049 --> 01:31:55,717
How did you get the strength
1663
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:57,636
to get out of that situation
with Ike?
1664
01:31:57,761 --> 01:32:00,680
- Oh, we are gonna
talk about him, aren't we?
1665
01:32:00,764 --> 01:32:02,516
Uaughs]
1666
01:32:02,599 --> 01:32:04,976
- Okay. I need my fan now.
I just had a flush.
1667
01:32:07,729 --> 01:32:09,564
How did I get out
of that situation?
1668
01:32:09,648 --> 01:32:11,149
Let me figure out
how I can talk about that
1669
01:32:11,233 --> 01:32:12,567
in two seconds.
1670
01:32:12,651 --> 01:32:14,402
- No, no, I know
how to get out of it.
1671
01:32:14,486 --> 01:32:16,780
I'm just gonna say something.
1672
01:32:16,863 --> 01:32:18,698
Give me two seconds here.
1673
01:32:19,241 --> 01:32:21,284
You don't want to think
about those times, you know.
1674
01:32:21,368 --> 01:32:23,578
You want it to just go away.
1675
01:32:23,703 --> 01:32:25,622
But if you're gonna
keep bringing it up--
1676
01:32:25,705 --> 01:32:28,667
the brain is saying, "Oh,
you want to remember that."
1677
01:32:30,377 --> 01:32:33,255
That scene comes back.
1678
01:32:33,380 --> 01:32:36,967
You're dreaming.
The real picture is there.
1679
01:32:37,050 --> 01:32:39,886
It's like a curse.
1680
01:32:43,181 --> 01:32:45,809
- You raised a son by him,
a son by another man,
1681
01:32:45,892 --> 01:32:48,270
and two of Ike's kids
by other women.
1682
01:32:48,353 --> 01:32:50,981
There were always
other women on the scene.
1683
01:32:51,064 --> 01:32:53,024
What was that like for you?
1684
01:32:53,108 --> 01:32:54,859
- When you were married
to Ike,
1685
01:32:54,943 --> 01:32:57,445
what was the absolutely
worst moment?
1686
01:32:58,071 --> 01:33:00,532
- What do you think
attracts women to bad men?
1687
01:33:00,949 --> 01:33:02,534
- Is there a real low,
1688
01:33:02,617 --> 01:33:04,536
like something
you'd love to forget?
1689
01:33:04,869 --> 01:33:07,038
- And, of course, the book
and the movie features
1690
01:33:07,122 --> 01:33:09,624
your allegations
about his bashings.
1691
01:33:09,708 --> 01:33:11,167
Tell me about that.
1692
01:33:11,251 --> 01:33:13,128
- I'm past it.
1693
01:33:13,211 --> 01:33:15,755
It's been 16 years
since I haven't been with Ike,
1694
01:33:15,839 --> 01:33:17,799
and the movie and the book
is bringing me back
1695
01:33:17,882 --> 01:33:20,552
to the past of something
that was really awful.
1696
01:33:20,635 --> 01:33:22,470
My life is wonderful
at the moment.
1697
01:33:22,554 --> 01:33:23,763
I'm a happy person now,
1698
01:33:23,847 --> 01:33:27,017
and I don't dwell
on unhappiness.
1699
01:33:30,186 --> 01:33:32,480
♪ ♪
1700
01:33:32,647 --> 01:33:34,357
- The trauma's still so deep
1701
01:33:34,441 --> 01:33:36,443
that to go back there
makes you feel
1702
01:33:36,526 --> 01:33:38,486
like you're actually
going back.
1703
01:33:39,863 --> 01:33:42,991
If you don't address
the wounds of your past,
1704
01:33:43,074 --> 01:33:44,951
you continue to bleed.
1705
01:33:45,035 --> 01:33:48,496
♪ ♪
1706
01:33:48,622 --> 01:33:50,332
- You know, she just-
she always had the feeling
1707
01:33:50,415 --> 01:33:52,083
that she wasn't loved...
1708
01:33:52,208 --> 01:33:55,920
she wasn't--you know,
she wasn't a wanted child.
1709
01:33:56,254 --> 01:33:59,382
♪ ♪
1710
01:33:59,507 --> 01:34:02,510
I think with her mom,
I think that's still
1711
01:34:02,594 --> 01:34:05,930
the dramatization
of being left as a child
1712
01:34:06,014 --> 01:34:07,766
that never left.
1713
01:34:08,099 --> 01:34:13,104
♪ ♪
1714
01:34:15,398 --> 01:34:17,192
- Ma was...
1715
01:34:17,275 --> 01:34:18,693
not kind.
1716
01:34:20,195 --> 01:34:22,197
When I became a star,
1717
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:23,948
of course,
like, then she was happy
1718
01:34:24,032 --> 01:34:25,867
because
I bought her a house.
1719
01:34:25,950 --> 01:34:27,786
I did all kinds of things
for her.
1720
01:34:27,869 --> 01:34:29,204
She was my mother.
1721
01:34:29,454 --> 01:34:31,831
You know, I was trying
to make her comfortable
1722
01:34:31,915 --> 01:34:33,541
because she didn't have
a husband.
1723
01:34:33,625 --> 01:34:34,626
She was alone.
1724
01:34:34,709 --> 01:34:37,253
But she still didn't like me.
1725
01:34:38,838 --> 01:34:41,383
Even after I became Tina,
1726
01:34:41,466 --> 01:34:44,052
Ma still was a little bit,
"Who did that?"
1727
01:34:44,135 --> 01:34:45,345
Or, "Who did this?"
1728
01:34:45,387 --> 01:34:46,554
And I Said, "I did it, Ma."
1729
01:34:46,638 --> 01:34:49,265
You know, I was happy
to show my mother what I did.
1730
01:34:49,349 --> 01:34:51,768
I had a house,
I had gotten a car,
1731
01:34:51,851 --> 01:34:53,520
and she said,
"I don't believe it.
1732
01:34:53,603 --> 01:34:55,897
You're my daughter.
I know you didn't..."
1733
01:34:55,980 --> 01:34:58,066
Something to this effect.
1734
01:34:59,275 --> 01:35:00,902
Yeah, she--
1735
01:35:03,196 --> 01:35:05,198
She didn't want--
she didn't want me,
1736
01:35:05,281 --> 01:35:06,991
she didn't want to be
around me,
1737
01:35:07,075 --> 01:35:09,285
even though
she wanted my success.
1738
01:35:09,369 --> 01:35:11,413
But I did for her...
1739
01:35:11,830 --> 01:35:14,416
as if she loved me.
1740
01:35:17,877 --> 01:35:21,172
- She's had a few kind of
ups and downs in her life
1741
01:35:21,256 --> 01:35:24,718
as well,
it hasn't been all happy.
1742
01:35:24,801 --> 01:35:26,636
- Right.
- Um...
1743
01:35:27,846 --> 01:35:29,556
when she's unhappy,
1744
01:35:29,639 --> 01:35:31,474
how does she deal
with it?
1745
01:35:34,644 --> 01:35:37,105
- I would say she...
1746
01:35:40,734 --> 01:35:44,362
She did a great job
of dealing with it because...
1747
01:35:45,113 --> 01:35:47,240
she would figure out
the problem
1748
01:35:47,323 --> 01:35:49,033
and how to handle it.
1749
01:35:51,745 --> 01:35:54,289
- Would she kind of come
running home to you crying?
1750
01:35:54,372 --> 01:35:55,665
- No, no, no.
1751
01:35:55,749 --> 01:35:58,334
No, she figured that out
on her own.
1752
01:35:58,918 --> 01:36:01,421
- Have you had any
particularly...
1753
01:36:01,796 --> 01:36:04,716
any particular moments
that you were really proud of?
1754
01:36:07,886 --> 01:36:12,474
- Well, I've been proud of her
ever since she started singing.
1755
01:36:12,557 --> 01:36:14,476
But it's, like...
1756
01:36:15,435 --> 01:36:17,687
a person--some people's
1757
01:36:17,771 --> 01:36:19,564
afraid to climb a ladder
1758
01:36:19,647 --> 01:36:22,025
unless someone's holding it.
1759
01:36:22,817 --> 01:36:24,402
But she's not.
1760
01:36:24,486 --> 01:36:26,738
Once she make that first
step on that ladder,
1761
01:36:26,821 --> 01:36:30,408
she keep climbing up,
up,up,up.
1762
01:36:30,742 --> 01:36:32,660
She's not afraid.
1763
01:36:32,744 --> 01:36:34,204
She'll try.
1764
01:36:35,079 --> 01:36:38,124
She's not afraid
to try anything.
1765
01:36:42,754 --> 01:36:45,215
- Do you think--do you think
that now after all the--
1766
01:36:45,298 --> 01:36:47,634
I mean, you've risen to the
top of the entertainment field
1767
01:36:47,717 --> 01:36:49,385
but you've maybe
sacrificed love--
1768
01:36:49,469 --> 01:36:51,012
- Rising...
- This is what readers
1769
01:36:51,095 --> 01:36:53,890
will say--
she has no love in her life.
1770
01:36:53,973 --> 01:36:55,892
- Oh, Kurt, we're gonna get
really heavy now,
1771
01:36:55,975 --> 01:36:57,393
because I'm drinking.
1772
01:36:57,477 --> 01:36:59,354
- [laughing] Oh, good.
- You're gonna find out.
1773
01:36:59,437 --> 01:37:03,191
I have not received love
almost ever in my life.
1774
01:37:03,274 --> 01:37:04,901
I did not have it
with my mother
1775
01:37:04,984 --> 01:37:06,736
and my father
from the beginning of birth,
1776
01:37:06,820 --> 01:37:08,363
and I survived.
- Yeah.
1777
01:37:08,446 --> 01:37:10,698
- Why did I get so far
without love, Kurt?
1778
01:37:10,782 --> 01:37:12,408
I never had it.
1779
01:37:12,492 --> 01:37:14,911
And if I cry here, it doesn't
mean that I pity myself.
1780
01:37:14,994 --> 01:37:16,663
It means that tears come
1781
01:37:16,746 --> 01:37:18,498
with certain memories.
- No, tears are not bad.
1782
01:37:18,581 --> 01:37:23,253
- I have had not one
love affair
1783
01:37:23,545 --> 01:37:27,048
that was genuine
and sustained itself.
1784
01:37:27,131 --> 01:37:29,133
Not one.
1785
01:37:29,425 --> 01:37:31,302
Kurt, I've been through...
1786
01:37:31,427 --> 01:37:33,721
Fucking tons of heartbreak!
1787
01:37:33,805 --> 01:37:35,014
I've analyzed it.
1788
01:37:35,098 --> 01:37:36,683
I said,
"What's wrong with me?"
1789
01:37:36,766 --> 01:37:38,309
I've looked in the mirror
with myself
1790
01:37:38,393 --> 01:37:40,395
stripped of makeup
and without hair.
1791
01:37:40,895 --> 01:37:45,942
Why can someone see the beauty
in the woman it is that I am?
1792
01:37:46,025 --> 01:37:48,444
Not a goddamn person
that found it.
1793
01:37:52,282 --> 01:37:57,328
♪ ♪
1794
01:38:59,849 --> 01:39:05,688
♪ ♪
1795
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:11,527
♪ When I was younger ♪
1796
01:39:11,611 --> 01:39:16,032
♪ So much younger
than today A'
1797
01:39:16,866 --> 01:39:19,744
♪ Never needed anybody's ♪
1798
01:39:20,286 --> 01:39:24,082
♪ Help in any way ♪
1799
01:39:25,124 --> 01:39:27,585
♪ Now those days are gone ♪
1800
01:39:28,211 --> 01:39:31,506
♪ I'm not so self-assured ♪
1801
01:39:32,632 --> 01:39:35,885
I Now I find
I've changed my mind ♪
1802
01:39:35,969 --> 01:39:39,347
♪ I've opened up the doors ♪
1803
01:39:39,847 --> 01:39:42,725
♪ So help me if you can ♪
1804
01:39:42,809 --> 01:39:45,019
♪ I'm feelin' down I
1805
01:39:46,354 --> 01:39:48,731
♪ And I do ♪
1806
01:39:48,815 --> 01:39:51,651
♪ Appreciate you ♪
1807
01:39:51,734 --> 01:39:53,903
♪ Bein' round ♪
1808
01:39:55,613 --> 01:40:00,910
♪ Oh, help me get my feet
back on the ground ♪
1809
01:40:00,994 --> 01:40:02,912
-J'Ooh ♪
1810
01:40:02,996 --> 01:40:06,582
- ♪ Won't you please,
please ♪
1811
01:40:06,666 --> 01:40:08,543
I Help me? I
1812
01:40:08,626 --> 01:40:12,588
♪ ♪
1813
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:15,133
♪ And now my life has changed ♪
1814
01:40:15,508 --> 01:40:19,012
♪ In, oh, so many ways ♪
1815
01:40:19,929 --> 01:40:22,223
♪ And my independence ♪
1816
01:40:22,765 --> 01:40:25,476
♪ Seems to vanish in the haze ♪
1817
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:27,812
- ♪ Oh, yeah-ea-eah ♪
1818
01:40:27,895 --> 01:40:30,231
- ♪ Every now and then ♪
1819
01:40:30,982 --> 01:40:34,027
♪ I feel so insecure ♪
1820
01:40:34,777 --> 01:40:37,321
♪ I know that I just need you ♪
1821
01:40:37,613 --> 01:40:40,992
♪ Like I never did before ♪
1822
01:40:42,076 --> 01:40:44,787
♪ Help me if you can ♪
1823
01:40:44,871 --> 01:40:47,081
♪ I'm feelin' down I
1824
01:40:50,126 --> 01:40:53,129
♪ I do appreciate you ♪
1825
01:40:53,838 --> 01:40:56,549
♪ Bein' round ♪
1826
01:40:56,632 --> 01:40:57,884
-J'Oh ♪
1827
01:40:57,967 --> 01:41:00,511
- ♪ Help me get my feet ♪
1828
01:41:00,595 --> 01:41:03,014
♪ Back on the ground ♪
1829
01:41:03,097 --> 01:41:04,932
♪ ♪
1830
01:41:05,016 --> 01:41:06,809
♪ Won't you please ♪
1831
01:41:06,893 --> 01:41:08,811
♪ Please ♪
- ♪ Please ♪
1832
01:41:08,895 --> 01:41:10,980
- I Help me? ♪
1833
01:41:12,899 --> 01:41:14,692
♪ Won't you please ♪
1834
01:41:14,984 --> 01:41:16,778
♪ Please ♪
- ♪ Please ♪
1835
01:41:16,861 --> 01:41:18,863
- I Help me? ♪
1836
01:41:18,946 --> 01:41:20,323
♪ Oh, yeah, yeah ♪
1837
01:41:20,573 --> 01:41:22,784
♪ Oh, please ♪
1838
01:41:22,867 --> 01:41:30,041
♪ Please ♪
- ♪ Please ♪
1839
01:41:33,044 --> 01:41:37,298
♪ Mmm, won't you ♪
1840
01:41:38,091 --> 01:41:40,635
♪ Please help me? ♪
1841
01:41:40,718 --> 01:41:41,844
-IHdpl
1842
01:41:42,929 --> 01:41:44,514
-J'Oh ♪
1843
01:41:44,764 --> 01:41:45,765
-IHdpl
1844
01:41:46,849 --> 01:41:48,810
- 3 Oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh 4'
1845
01:41:48,893 --> 01:41:49,936
-IHdpl
1846
01:41:51,020 --> 01:41:52,021
IHdpl
1847
01:41:52,522 --> 01:41:54,857
♪ ♪
1848
01:41:54,941 --> 01:42:00,488
-J'Oh ♪
1849
01:42:10,498 --> 01:42:12,583
The man that I'm looking for
actually has to be
1850
01:42:12,667 --> 01:42:14,335
a very strong man,
1851
01:42:14,418 --> 01:42:16,587
to wear, actually,
the trousers,
1852
01:42:16,671 --> 01:42:19,590
but yet not to dominate me.
1853
01:42:19,674 --> 01:42:21,592
And that's fair.
1854
01:42:33,187 --> 01:42:34,981
- We met at Cologne Airport.
1855
01:42:35,064 --> 01:42:37,441
Actually, it was
at Dusseldorf Airport.
1856
01:42:37,525 --> 01:42:39,610
And her manager, Roger,
1857
01:42:39,694 --> 01:42:43,489
asked me to pick up Tina.
1858
01:42:45,324 --> 01:42:46,492
- He was younger.
1859
01:42:46,576 --> 01:42:48,369
He was 30 years old
at the time.
1860
01:42:48,452 --> 01:42:51,539
The prettiest face.
I mean, you cannot--
1861
01:42:52,248 --> 01:42:53,833
It was like saying,
1862
01:42:53,916 --> 01:42:55,918
"Where did he come from?"
1863
01:42:56,002 --> 01:42:58,212
He was really so good-looking.
1864
01:42:58,421 --> 01:43:01,257
My heart went
ba-boom-ba-ba!
1865
01:43:01,549 --> 01:43:04,719
And it means
that a soul has met.
1866
01:43:04,802 --> 01:43:06,429
And my hands were shaking.
1867
01:43:06,804 --> 01:43:11,058
So Roger said to me,
"Tina, you ride with Erwin."
1868
01:43:11,142 --> 01:43:14,228
And I wanted to go, "Yay!"
1869
01:43:16,480 --> 01:43:17,899
- We enjoyed the ride.
1870
01:43:17,982 --> 01:43:20,610
I enjoyed driving
the artist.
1871
01:43:20,693 --> 01:43:22,612
Actually, a superstar for us
1872
01:43:22,695 --> 01:43:24,655
where you're normally
a little nervous, you know.
1873
01:43:24,739 --> 01:43:27,283
But I wasn't nervous either.
1874
01:43:27,366 --> 01:43:29,577
I was just doing the job.
1875
01:43:30,828 --> 01:43:33,581
- When he found out
that I liked him,
1876
01:43:33,664 --> 01:43:35,082
he came to America.
1877
01:43:35,416 --> 01:43:38,961
We were in Nashville,
I think it was.
1878
01:43:39,045 --> 01:43:40,504
And I said to him,
1879
01:43:40,755 --> 01:43:44,342
"When you come to LA,
I want you to make love to me."
1880
01:43:45,509 --> 01:43:47,345
But I thought
that I could say that
1881
01:43:47,428 --> 01:43:49,931
'cause I was a free woman--
I didn't have a boyfriend.
1882
01:43:50,014 --> 01:43:52,558
I liked him. There was nothing
wrong with it.
1883
01:43:52,642 --> 01:43:54,143
It was just sex.
1884
01:43:54,227 --> 01:43:56,812
And he looked at me
as if he doesn't--
1885
01:43:56,896 --> 01:43:58,272
Didn't believe
1886
01:43:58,356 --> 01:44:00,691
what he was hearing!
1887
01:44:00,900 --> 01:44:03,569
I laugh now at the moment,
1888
01:44:03,653 --> 01:44:05,821
because I sometimes
get that look
1889
01:44:05,905 --> 01:44:07,949
when I do certain things.
1890
01:44:08,866 --> 01:44:10,243
He was...
1891
01:44:10,826 --> 01:44:13,996
just so, so different.
1892
01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:18,167
So laid-back, so comfortable,
so unpretentious.
1893
01:44:20,044 --> 01:44:22,880
And that was the beginning
of our relationship.
1894
01:44:26,050 --> 01:44:30,680
♪ ♪
1895
01:44:32,765 --> 01:44:34,350
I really needed love.
1896
01:44:34,433 --> 01:44:36,769
I just needed
to love a person.
1897
01:44:40,064 --> 01:44:42,275
How many years later,
darling, we got married?
1898
01:44:43,192 --> 01:44:44,568
— 27.
1899
01:44:49,532 --> 01:44:51,409
It's love.
It's something...
1900
01:44:51,492 --> 01:44:54,328
we both have for each other.
1901
01:44:54,412 --> 01:44:58,666
I always refer to it
as an electrical charge.
1902
01:44:58,749 --> 01:45:00,001
I still have it.
1903
01:45:00,126 --> 01:45:02,670
I still have it, and even
though when I left her
1904
01:45:02,753 --> 01:45:04,714
two hours ago,
three hours ago this morning,
1905
01:45:05,381 --> 01:45:06,924
I still have that feeling.
1906
01:45:07,008 --> 01:45:11,429
That feeling is still with me
and is in my heart.
1907
01:45:11,512 --> 01:45:13,514
I feel very warm about this.
1908
01:45:16,559 --> 01:45:22,565
♪ ♪
1909
01:46:25,002 --> 01:46:26,462
- First a minute to remember
1910
01:46:26,545 --> 01:46:28,589
one of the fathers
of rock and roll.
1911
01:46:28,672 --> 01:46:31,967
Ike Turner died today
at age 76.
1912
01:46:32,093 --> 01:46:34,595
Back in 1951,
Turner helped record
1913
01:46:34,678 --> 01:46:36,764
what is one of the first
rock and roll records,
1914
01:46:36,847 --> 01:46:39,850
"Rocket 88," with his band
the Kings of Rhythm.
1915
01:46:39,934 --> 01:46:41,477
He may be best known
1916
01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:43,562
as the abusive ex-husband
of Tina Turner,
1917
01:46:43,646 --> 01:46:45,356
with whom he performed
for many years.
1918
01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:46,774
After their separation,
1919
01:46:46,857 --> 01:46:48,692
Ike Turner continued
to make music.
1920
01:46:48,776 --> 01:46:50,528
In 1991, he was inducted
1921
01:46:50,611 --> 01:46:52,154
into the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame,
1922
01:46:52,238 --> 01:46:55,741
and earlier this year, his
record "Risin' with the Blues"
1923
01:46:55,825 --> 01:46:58,327
won a Grammy
for traditional blues album.
1924
01:47:00,162 --> 01:47:01,789
- For a long time,
I did hate Ike.
1925
01:47:01,872 --> 01:47:02,915
I have to say that.
1926
01:47:02,998 --> 01:47:05,709
But then after he died,
1927
01:47:06,335 --> 01:47:09,046
I really realized
that he was a sick person.
1928
01:47:09,130 --> 01:47:12,508
He was an ill person
in his soul.
1929
01:47:13,217 --> 01:47:15,386
He did get me started,
1930
01:47:16,178 --> 01:47:19,473
and he was good to me
in the beginning.
1931
01:47:19,557 --> 01:47:21,016
So I have some good thoughts.
1932
01:47:22,977 --> 01:47:25,729
Maybe it was a good thing
that I met him.
1933
01:47:26,355 --> 01:47:27,773
That I don't know.
1934
01:47:32,278 --> 01:47:37,074
♪ ♪
1935
01:47:44,832 --> 01:47:49,170
It hurts to have to remember
those times.
1936
01:47:49,253 --> 01:47:53,007
♪ ♪
1937
01:47:53,090 --> 01:47:57,636
But at a certain stage,
forgiveness takes over.
1938
01:47:57,720 --> 01:47:59,930
♪ ♪
1939
01:48:00,014 --> 01:48:02,183
Forgiving
means not to hold on.
1940
01:48:03,267 --> 01:48:06,937
You let it go,
because it only hurts you.
1941
01:48:07,354 --> 01:48:09,982
Not forgiving, you suffer,
1942
01:48:10,065 --> 01:48:12,026
'cause you think
about it over and over again.
1943
01:48:12,109 --> 01:48:13,736
And for what?
1944
01:48:16,989 --> 01:48:19,033
I had an abusive life.
1945
01:48:19,116 --> 01:48:20,993
There's no other
way to tell the story.
1946
01:48:21,076 --> 01:48:23,078
It's a reality.
It's a truth.
1947
01:48:24,622 --> 01:48:26,707
That's what you've got.
1948
01:48:26,790 --> 01:48:28,626
So you have to accept it.
1949
01:48:33,589 --> 01:48:39,595
♪ ♪
1950
01:48:52,483 --> 01:48:55,444
♪ ♪
1951
01:48:58,197 --> 01:49:00,241
♪ ♪
1952
01:49:00,783 --> 01:49:01,742
- Working it.
1953
01:49:01,825 --> 01:49:03,035
Working it, as always.
- Why, thank you, honey.
1954
01:49:03,118 --> 01:49:05,371
- Can you tell us
what Tina means to you?
1955
01:49:06,330 --> 01:49:08,499
♪ ♪
1956
01:49:09,333 --> 01:49:11,043
- The money shot is coming.
1957
01:49:11,126 --> 01:49:15,631
♪ ♪
1958
01:49:18,342 --> 01:49:20,261
- Some people say
the life that I lived
1959
01:49:20,344 --> 01:49:23,264
and the performances
that I gave...
1960
01:49:23,347 --> 01:49:27,351
The appreciation
is lasting with the people.
1961
01:49:28,352 --> 01:49:31,272
And, yeah, I should be
proud of that.
1962
01:49:31,355 --> 01:49:32,481
I am.
1963
01:49:34,233 --> 01:49:35,734
But when do you stop
being proud?
1964
01:49:35,818 --> 01:49:37,611
I mean, when do you...
1965
01:49:37,695 --> 01:49:42,324
How do you bow out slowly,
just go away?
1966
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:50,749
- She said,
"I'm going to America.
1967
01:49:51,083 --> 01:49:54,253
"I'm gonna say goodbye
to my American fans,
1968
01:49:54,336 --> 01:49:55,921
and I'll wrap it up."
1969
01:49:56,922 --> 01:50:00,718
And I think this documentary
here and the play...
1970
01:50:01,427 --> 01:50:03,304
this is it.
1971
01:50:04,263 --> 01:50:06,432
It's a closure.
1972
01:50:06,515 --> 01:50:07,975
A closure.
1973
01:50:08,517 --> 01:50:11,729
Crowd:
Tina, Tina, Tina, Tina!
1974
01:50:14,773 --> 01:50:18,360
Tina, Tina, Tina, Tina!
1975
01:50:21,530 --> 01:50:26,243
♪ ♪
1976
01:50:30,831 --> 01:50:35,794
- What I gleaned
from her life was love...
1977
01:50:36,545 --> 01:50:39,006
love of self,
love of her family,
1978
01:50:39,089 --> 01:50:41,800
love of her talent,
1979
01:50:41,884 --> 01:50:43,594
love of audiences,
1980
01:50:43,677 --> 01:50:46,180
of music, of freedom.
1981
01:50:50,351 --> 01:50:52,936
♪ ♪
1982
01:50:53,103 --> 01:50:54,813
There's a part of her,
I guess,
1983
01:50:54,897 --> 01:50:57,399
that we've all laid claim to,
1984
01:50:57,524 --> 01:50:59,860
we've all embraced
across the world.
1985
01:51:00,194 --> 01:51:02,780
And I hope she knows that,
you know,
1986
01:51:02,863 --> 01:51:05,032
how beloved,
how loved she is.
1987
01:51:06,158 --> 01:51:09,286
She is absolutely adored.
1988
01:51:14,333 --> 01:51:19,546
♪ ♪
1989
01:51:57,042 --> 01:52:02,464
♪ ♪
1990
01:52:53,515 --> 01:52:59,521
♪ ♪
1991
01:53:07,029 --> 01:53:09,031
- I I'll call you
when I need you ♪
1992
01:53:09,114 --> 01:53:11,492
♪ My heart's on fire ♪
1993
01:53:11,617 --> 01:53:15,746
♪ ♪
1994
01:53:15,829 --> 01:53:17,998
♪ Come to me, come to me 4'
1995
01:53:18,081 --> 01:53:20,083
♪ Wild and wired ♪
1996
01:53:20,292 --> 01:53:23,670
♪ ♪
1997
01:53:23,754 --> 01:53:25,172
♪ You come to me ♪
1998
01:53:26,965 --> 01:53:29,968
I Give me everything I need I
1999
01:53:30,636 --> 01:53:32,679
♪ ♪
2000
01:53:32,763 --> 01:53:35,098
♪ Give me a lifetime
of promises ♪
2001
01:53:35,182 --> 01:53:37,476
♪ And a world of dreams ♪
2002
01:53:37,559 --> 01:53:41,188
♪ ♪
2003
01:53:41,355 --> 01:53:43,315
♪ Speak the language of love ♪
2004
01:53:43,398 --> 01:53:46,276
♪ Like you know what it means ♪
2005
01:53:46,443 --> 01:53:49,571
♪ ♪
2006
01:53:49,738 --> 01:53:51,532
♪ And it can't be wrong ♪
2007
01:53:52,866 --> 01:53:56,578
♪ Take my heart
and make it strong, baby ♪
2008
01:53:58,038 --> 01:53:59,915
♪ You're simply the best ♪
2009
01:53:59,998 --> 01:54:02,668
♪ ♪
2010
01:54:02,751 --> 01:54:05,212
♪ Better than all the rest ♪
2011
01:54:06,964 --> 01:54:09,550
♪ Better than anyone ♪
2012
01:54:11,051 --> 01:54:13,762
♪ Than anyone I've ever met ♪
2013
01:54:15,430 --> 01:54:17,933
♪ I'm stuck
on your heart, babe ♪
2014
01:54:19,685 --> 01:54:22,479
I And I hang on
every word you say ♪
2015
01:54:24,439 --> 01:54:25,899
♪ Tear us apart ♪
2016
01:54:26,316 --> 01:54:27,276
.“Oh,no.“
2017
01:54:28,819 --> 01:54:32,114
♪ Baby, I would rather
be dead ♪
2018
01:54:33,699 --> 01:54:35,701
♪ In your heart,
I see the start ♪
2019
01:54:35,784 --> 01:54:37,452
♪ Of every night
and every day ♪
2020
01:54:37,536 --> 01:54:38,453
- ♪ Oh, yeah ♪
2021
01:54:38,537 --> 01:54:41,915
♪ ♪
2022
01:54:42,207 --> 01:54:44,459
- ♪ In your eyes, I get lost ♪
2023
01:54:44,543 --> 01:54:46,587
♪ I get washed away ♪
2024
01:54:46,670 --> 01:54:50,966
♪ ♪
2025
01:54:51,049 --> 01:54:54,261
♪ Just as long as
I'm here in your arms I
2026
01:54:54,344 --> 01:54:57,389
♪ I could be
in no better place ♪
2027
01:54:58,557 --> 01:55:00,601
♪ Oh, you're simply the best ♪
2028
01:55:00,684 --> 01:55:01,727
Whoo!
2029
01:55:03,395 --> 01:55:06,273
♪ Better than all the rest ♪
2030
01:55:06,440 --> 01:55:07,482
Whoo!
2031
01:55:07,774 --> 01:55:10,485
♪ Better than anyone ♪
2032
01:55:11,904 --> 01:55:14,781
♪ Than anyone I've ever met ♪
2033
01:55:15,908 --> 01:55:18,660
♪ Ooh, I'm stuck
on your heart ♪
2034
01:55:18,744 --> 01:55:20,871
♪ ♪
2035
01:55:20,954 --> 01:55:23,498
I And I hang on
every word you say ♪
2036
01:55:24,708 --> 01:55:26,752
♪ Don't tear us apart ♪
2037
01:55:27,252 --> 01:55:28,295
.“Oh,no.“
2038
01:55:29,713 --> 01:55:32,758
♪ Baby, I would rather
be dead ♪
2039
01:55:32,966 --> 01:55:35,260
♪ ♪
2040
01:55:35,385 --> 01:55:38,931
♪ Each time you leave me
I start losing control ♪
2041
01:55:39,264 --> 01:55:43,226
♪ You're walkin' away
with my heart and my soul ♪
2042
01:55:44,227 --> 01:55:47,689
♪ I can feel you
even when I'm alone I
2043
01:55:48,273 --> 01:55:49,775
: Oh, baby :
2044
01:55:50,275 --> 01:55:52,569
♪ Don't let go ♪
2045
01:55:52,653 --> 01:55:53,654
Whoo!
2046
01:55:53,904 --> 01:55:59,117
♪ ♪
2047
01:56:04,206 --> 01:56:07,584
Both:
I Oh! Oh! Oh! ♪
2048
01:56:08,961 --> 01:56:11,505
- ♪ You're the best ♪
Sing it, everybody!
2049
01:56:12,923 --> 01:56:15,592
♪ You're better
than all the rest ♪
2050
01:56:17,469 --> 01:56:19,930
♪ Better than anyone ♪
2051
01:56:21,515 --> 01:56:24,351
♪ Than anyone I've ever met ♪
2052
01:56:25,394 --> 01:56:28,563
♪ Ooh, I'm stuck
on your heart, baby ♪
2053
01:56:30,273 --> 01:56:32,776
I And I hang
on every word you say ♪
2054
01:56:34,528 --> 01:56:36,321
♪ Don't tear us apart ♪
2055
01:56:36,738 --> 01:56:37,906
A'No,noA'
2056
01:56:39,282 --> 01:56:42,285
♪ Baby, I would rather
be dead ♪
2057
01:56:42,869 --> 01:56:44,997
♪ Oh, you're the best ♪
2058
01:56:45,414 --> 01:56:51,420
♪ ♪
2059
01:57:04,683 --> 01:57:07,227
♪ Yeah, simply the best, yeah ♪
2060
01:57:09,354 --> 01:57:12,024
♪ You're better than
all the rest ♪
2061
01:57:13,984 --> 01:57:16,319
♪ Better than anyone ♪
2062
01:57:17,738 --> 01:57:20,699
♪ Than anyone I ever met ♪
2063
01:57:21,825 --> 01:57:25,037
♪ I'm stuck on your heart,
baby ♪
2064
01:57:26,621 --> 01:57:29,291
I And I hang on
every word you say ♪
2065
01:57:30,792 --> 01:57:33,837
♪ Don't tear us apart,
no, no ♪
2066
01:57:35,672 --> 01:57:38,383
♪ Baby, I would rather
be dead ♪
2067
01:57:39,051 --> 01:57:41,094
♪ Oh, you're the best ♪
2068
01:57:44,139 --> 01:57:49,102
♪ ♪
2069
01:57:53,148 --> 01:57:54,399
Thank you!
2070
01:58:05,077 --> 01:58:05,577
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