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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,934 --> 00:00:05,438 Freeman: Every single person who has ever lived 2 00:00:05,438 --> 00:00:09,275 was created from the genes of one man and one woman. 3 00:00:09,275 --> 00:00:12,377 But technology is on the brink 4 00:00:12,378 --> 00:00:15,581 of rewriting the rules of procreation. 5 00:00:15,581 --> 00:00:22,022 We could soon make children from two fathers or from two mothers. 6 00:00:22,956 --> 00:00:25,291 Babies could grow outside the womb. 7 00:00:25,291 --> 00:00:29,062 We might even create hybrid people -- 8 00:00:29,062 --> 00:00:30,764 part human, part animal. 9 00:00:30,764 --> 00:00:35,100 Human reproduction, unchanged for millions of years, 10 00:00:35,101 --> 00:00:38,404 is about to undergo a revolution. 11 00:00:38,404 --> 00:00:41,074 Will sex become extinct? 12 00:00:47,313 --> 00:00:51,985 Space, time, life itself. 13 00:00:54,153 --> 00:00:57,359 The secrets of the cosmos lie through the wormhole. 14 00:01:01,162 --> 00:01:04,164 Subtital By RA_One 17 00:01:10,603 --> 00:01:14,274 Sex is amazing. 18 00:01:14,274 --> 00:01:15,942 Why? 19 00:01:15,942 --> 00:01:19,879 Well, because without sex, none of us would be here. 20 00:01:19,879 --> 00:01:21,614 We are all descendants 21 00:01:21,614 --> 00:01:24,784 of the very first human male and female, 22 00:01:24,784 --> 00:01:28,489 the people the Bible calls Adam and Eve. 23 00:01:28,489 --> 00:01:31,925 And for almost all of human history, 24 00:01:31,925 --> 00:01:36,462 the way we have made babies has not changed at all. 25 00:01:36,463 --> 00:01:40,033 But a brave new world of human reproduction 26 00:01:40,033 --> 00:01:42,135 is just around the corner. 27 00:01:42,135 --> 00:01:46,006 New technology and our evolving biology 28 00:01:46,006 --> 00:01:49,810 are about to rewrite the future of sex 29 00:01:49,810 --> 00:01:55,983 and change the age-old roles of men and women. 30 00:01:59,319 --> 00:02:03,223 When I was in school, I wanted to try out for the track team, 31 00:02:03,223 --> 00:02:08,361 so I thought I'd practice with a guaranteed win -- 32 00:02:08,361 --> 00:02:09,896 against a girl. 33 00:02:10,095 --> 00:02:12,164 On your mark. Get set. 34 00:02:12,165 --> 00:02:13,166 Go! 35 00:02:13,166 --> 00:02:15,002 Go, go, go, go, go! 36 00:02:16,603 --> 00:02:22,541 Well, to my surprise, she won -- by a lot. 37 00:02:22,542 --> 00:02:26,146 In fact, she went on to become a olympic champion. 38 00:02:26,146 --> 00:02:27,614 Whoo! Whoo-hoo! 39 00:02:27,614 --> 00:02:30,249 Men and women have always competed 40 00:02:30,250 --> 00:02:32,919 in the age-old battle of the sexes. 41 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:38,459 What will happen to humanity if nature picks a winner? 42 00:02:44,263 --> 00:02:49,102 For the past half billion years, nearly all complex life 43 00:02:49,102 --> 00:02:53,740 has reproduced through sexual recombination of their genes. 44 00:02:53,740 --> 00:02:55,242 Birds do it. 45 00:02:55,242 --> 00:02:56,642 Bees do it. 46 00:02:56,642 --> 00:02:59,379 Even kangaroos do it. 47 00:02:59,379 --> 00:03:02,249 But geneticist Jenny graves thinks the days 48 00:03:02,249 --> 00:03:04,718 of humans doing it to make offspring 49 00:03:04,718 --> 00:03:07,421 could be numbered. 50 00:03:07,421 --> 00:03:11,157 She's peering into our future by looking at the sex genes 51 00:03:11,157 --> 00:03:13,225 of these distant cousins. 52 00:03:13,226 --> 00:03:14,827 Dear little thing. 53 00:03:14,827 --> 00:03:16,596 Absolutely gorgeous. 54 00:03:16,596 --> 00:03:18,731 And you can see it's a little boy. 55 00:03:18,732 --> 00:03:20,100 Yes, I certainly can. 56 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:21,701 Because he's well-endowed. 57 00:03:21,701 --> 00:03:23,003 Well-endowed indeed. 58 00:03:23,003 --> 00:03:28,108 Kangaroos don't look much like humans, but in fact, 59 00:03:28,108 --> 00:03:31,378 they have pretty much the same set of genes -- 60 00:03:31,378 --> 00:03:34,180 about, you know, 20,000 or so genes -- 61 00:03:34,180 --> 00:03:35,682 doing the same jobs. 62 00:03:37,250 --> 00:03:40,620 Freeman: All living things are built from genes 63 00:03:40,620 --> 00:03:42,355 that are made up of DNA. 64 00:03:42,356 --> 00:03:48,162 Those genes are coiled up into clusters called chromosomes. 65 00:03:48,162 --> 00:03:51,331 We have 23 pairs of chromosomes. 66 00:03:51,331 --> 00:03:54,133 Gender of both humans and kangaroos 67 00:03:54,133 --> 00:03:56,969 depends on just one pair. 68 00:03:56,970 --> 00:03:59,839 Girls have two "X" Chromosomes. 69 00:03:59,839 --> 00:04:02,609 Boys have one "X" And one "Y." 70 00:04:02,609 --> 00:04:07,247 we inherited this scheme from a common ancestor. 71 00:04:10,685 --> 00:04:16,057 Kangaroos are much more like the ancestral mammal, 72 00:04:16,057 --> 00:04:18,359 and they haven't changed nearly as much, 73 00:04:18,558 --> 00:04:20,928 so they give us a window on the past, 74 00:04:20,928 --> 00:04:25,199 and they really tell us a lot about our own genome. 75 00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:29,070 Freeman: By looking at the sex chromosomes of kangaroos, 76 00:04:29,070 --> 00:04:32,206 Jenny can see how much our own have changed. 77 00:04:32,206 --> 00:04:37,544 She can also plot the future of our sex chromosomes. 78 00:04:37,545 --> 00:04:39,882 And according to Jenny, it's bad news. 79 00:04:40,682 --> 00:04:44,486 Human males, like her grandson Felix, 80 00:04:44,486 --> 00:04:47,355 are on the road to extinction. 81 00:04:47,355 --> 00:04:50,357 [ Laughs ] 82 00:04:50,358 --> 00:04:51,360 All right. 83 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,128 Well, I'm gonna build a chromosome 84 00:04:53,128 --> 00:04:54,430 out of blocks of genes. 85 00:04:54,430 --> 00:04:58,600 Felix, maybe you can hand me some more blue blocks. 86 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,604 Both men and women carry an "X" Chromosome. 87 00:05:02,604 --> 00:05:06,875 In the microscopic world of DNA, it's a skyscraper, 88 00:05:06,875 --> 00:05:10,279 a tower of around 1,000 genes. 89 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:15,384 But the "Y" Chromosome, exclusive to men, 90 00:05:15,384 --> 00:05:18,887 is more of a run-down shack. 91 00:05:18,887 --> 00:05:21,623 So, this is a female with two "X" Chromosomes, 92 00:05:21,623 --> 00:05:24,125 one from the mother, one from the father, 93 00:05:24,125 --> 00:05:25,393 and then this is a male. 94 00:05:25,393 --> 00:05:27,629 He's only got one "X" Chromosome, 95 00:05:27,629 --> 00:05:30,432 and he's got a much smaller "Y" Chromosome. 96 00:05:30,432 --> 00:05:33,969 It's got hardly any genes on it. 97 00:05:33,969 --> 00:05:38,373 All female eggs contain a single "X" Chromosome. 98 00:05:38,373 --> 00:05:42,444 Of the billions of sperm cells a man sends towards a woman's egg, 99 00:05:42,444 --> 00:05:46,715 half contain an "X," The other half a single, puny "Y." 100 00:05:46,715 --> 00:05:49,984 when a sperm cell with an "X" Chromosome 101 00:05:49,985 --> 00:05:54,890 gets to the egg first, the result is a baby girl 102 00:05:54,890 --> 00:05:58,426 with one "X" From mom and one "X" From dad. 103 00:05:58,426 --> 00:05:59,761 What happens is 104 00:05:59,761 --> 00:06:03,331 these two "X" Chromosomes get together, and they swap bits. 105 00:06:03,331 --> 00:06:08,602 For instance, that bit there swaps with that bit there, 106 00:06:08,603 --> 00:06:12,974 and then maybe this bit swaps with that bit, 107 00:06:12,974 --> 00:06:15,944 and you end up with something that looks like that. 108 00:06:15,944 --> 00:06:17,780 And this is really important 109 00:06:17,780 --> 00:06:20,082 because it means that the "X" Chromosomes 110 00:06:20,082 --> 00:06:21,583 can repair themselves. 111 00:06:21,583 --> 00:06:26,522 In women, any harmful genetic mutations on the "X" Chromosome 112 00:06:26,522 --> 00:06:28,923 can be swapped out with healthy genes 113 00:06:28,923 --> 00:06:31,326 before it gets passed to the next generation. 114 00:06:31,326 --> 00:06:36,965 But men have no way to repair their "Y" Chromosome. 115 00:06:36,965 --> 00:06:41,470 There's no second copy to fall back on. 116 00:06:41,470 --> 00:06:45,174 This "Y" Chromosome doesn't swap pieces at all, 117 00:06:45,174 --> 00:06:47,542 so it just stays in a little bundle, 118 00:06:47,542 --> 00:06:50,479 and this is a bad thing for the "Y" Chromosome 119 00:06:50,479 --> 00:06:53,848 because if there are mistakes and errors and mutations, 120 00:06:53,848 --> 00:06:54,850 that's too bad. 121 00:06:54,850 --> 00:06:56,885 There's no way of fixing them up. 122 00:06:56,885 --> 00:07:01,189 And eventually what happens is you actually lose genes. 123 00:07:01,189 --> 00:07:04,159 And then this little teeny-weeny "Y" 124 00:07:04,159 --> 00:07:07,496 is at great risk of being lost altogether. 125 00:07:07,496 --> 00:07:10,164 And so, in maybe four or five million years, 126 00:07:10,164 --> 00:07:11,700 there'll be nothing left. 127 00:07:11,700 --> 00:07:14,236 Freeman: Without a "Y" Chromosome, 128 00:07:14,236 --> 00:07:17,505 men would become infertile. 129 00:07:17,505 --> 00:07:20,075 Would the extinction of humanity follow? 130 00:07:25,747 --> 00:07:30,919 Evolutionary biologist levi morran wants to know 131 00:07:30,919 --> 00:07:35,690 what happens when a species can no longer sexually reproduce. 132 00:07:35,690 --> 00:07:39,928 He's working out the details by working out. 133 00:07:39,928 --> 00:07:42,163 There are times when I'm working on a specific project 134 00:07:42,163 --> 00:07:44,332 or something that's really driving me forward, 135 00:07:44,332 --> 00:07:46,234 and running allows me to really focus in 136 00:07:46,234 --> 00:07:48,370 on everything that I need to be thinking about. 137 00:07:48,370 --> 00:07:50,105 Freeman: Levi is chasing an answer 138 00:07:50,105 --> 00:07:53,407 to the most fundamental mystery of sex -- 139 00:07:53,408 --> 00:07:57,579 why do we and so many other species do it? 140 00:07:57,579 --> 00:08:00,648 He thinks he can find the answer 141 00:08:00,648 --> 00:08:06,054 by closely observing sexual activity under a microscope. 142 00:08:06,054 --> 00:08:09,891 These microscopic worms, or nematodes, 143 00:08:09,891 --> 00:08:13,028 are known as c. Elegans. 144 00:08:13,028 --> 00:08:16,230 Their sex life is incredibly simple. 145 00:08:16,230 --> 00:08:17,597 It's actually pretty sad. 146 00:08:17,598 --> 00:08:20,368 Sometimes the males will basically take their tail, 147 00:08:20,368 --> 00:08:23,005 attach it to their head, think that they are a female, 148 00:08:23,005 --> 00:08:25,073 and mate with themselves for hours on end 149 00:08:25,073 --> 00:08:26,975 without realizing it. 150 00:08:26,975 --> 00:08:29,610 Freeman: Males are simple, 151 00:08:29,610 --> 00:08:34,381 but their female counterparts have more complex needs. 152 00:08:34,382 --> 00:08:38,686 Female c. Elegans are not exactly female. 153 00:08:38,686 --> 00:08:41,089 They're hermaphrodites. 154 00:08:41,089 --> 00:08:45,294 They can reproduce by coupling with a male, 155 00:08:45,294 --> 00:08:46,995 just like human females do, 156 00:08:46,995 --> 00:08:50,264 or they can reproduce by impregnating their own eggs 157 00:08:50,264 --> 00:08:52,935 with their own sperm. 158 00:08:55,103 --> 00:08:58,039 Levi can control the sex drive of nematode females 159 00:08:58,039 --> 00:09:01,309 by flicking a few switches in their DNA. 160 00:09:01,309 --> 00:09:04,446 He can make them always opt for sex 161 00:09:04,446 --> 00:09:07,481 or always reproduce without males. 162 00:09:07,482 --> 00:09:10,618 To see what a difference sex makes, 163 00:09:10,618 --> 00:09:13,655 levi subjects these hermaphrodites 164 00:09:13,655 --> 00:09:16,725 to the hard forces of natural selection 165 00:09:16,725 --> 00:09:23,898 by making them cross an ocean...Of disease. 166 00:09:23,898 --> 00:09:25,933 Morran: If you look at this petri dish here, 167 00:09:25,934 --> 00:09:30,839 what you can see is that this red bacteria up here -- 168 00:09:30,839 --> 00:09:33,675 it's highly virulent to the nematodes. 169 00:09:33,675 --> 00:09:35,777 It's very likely to kill them. 170 00:09:35,777 --> 00:09:38,079 And they have to swim through this bacteria 171 00:09:38,079 --> 00:09:40,048 to get to their normal food source, 172 00:09:40,048 --> 00:09:41,515 which is at the bottom here. 173 00:09:41,516 --> 00:09:43,852 Freeman: Nematodes that reproduce without sex 174 00:09:43,852 --> 00:09:45,821 endure the plague for 30 generations 175 00:09:45,821 --> 00:09:48,790 but are not able to develop a defense 176 00:09:48,790 --> 00:09:51,726 against their toxic invaders. 177 00:09:51,726 --> 00:09:55,029 Their ranks are decimated. 178 00:09:55,029 --> 00:09:58,000 Now, levi sends another colony of worms 179 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,967 across the valley of death. 180 00:09:59,968 --> 00:10:03,171 This time, he's genetically engineered them 181 00:10:03,171 --> 00:10:05,306 to reproduce only through sex. 182 00:10:05,306 --> 00:10:08,277 Morran: We again put them on this plate 183 00:10:08,277 --> 00:10:12,648 that has the bacterial parasite and had them crawl across. 184 00:10:12,648 --> 00:10:15,149 See if they could survive exposure to the parasite 185 00:10:15,149 --> 00:10:17,519 and then reproduce in their normal environment. 186 00:10:17,519 --> 00:10:18,953 And if you look at the screen here, 187 00:10:18,954 --> 00:10:22,424 what you see is a lot of them survived that exposure. 188 00:10:22,424 --> 00:10:24,860 Freeman: Levi's experiment shows 189 00:10:24,860 --> 00:10:27,095 that the sex allows a population 190 00:10:27,095 --> 00:10:30,197 to evolve better defenses against diseases. 191 00:10:30,198 --> 00:10:34,635 He believes that over millions of years of our evolution, 192 00:10:34,635 --> 00:10:39,006 sex is what has kept us from being wiped out by disease. 193 00:10:39,007 --> 00:10:42,944 As levi knows from his sport of running, 194 00:10:42,944 --> 00:10:45,681 it's all about staying ahead. 195 00:10:45,681 --> 00:10:48,783 Imagine that I'm a population, and each step I take forward 196 00:10:48,783 --> 00:10:53,587 is a generation in evolutionary time. 197 00:10:53,588 --> 00:10:55,490 Freeman: Reproduction without sex 198 00:10:55,490 --> 00:10:58,393 is a lot like running in a straight line. 199 00:10:58,393 --> 00:11:02,797 A species can get from "A" To "B" Quickly and efficiently, 200 00:11:02,797 --> 00:11:06,301 but if you run in a straight line, 201 00:11:06,301 --> 00:11:10,038 a predatory parasite can easily pick up on your path. 202 00:11:13,975 --> 00:11:17,613 Sexual reproduction is like following a zigzag path. 203 00:11:17,613 --> 00:11:21,049 It's slower, but the mixing of genes 204 00:11:21,049 --> 00:11:24,987 constantly shifts the species' evolutionary path, 205 00:11:24,987 --> 00:11:29,758 making it hard for a parasite to latch on 206 00:11:29,758 --> 00:11:35,464 and giving a species its best chance to survive. 207 00:11:37,932 --> 00:11:40,735 There are all kinds of pathogen parasites out there 208 00:11:40,735 --> 00:11:43,272 that could potentially track our populations, 209 00:11:43,272 --> 00:11:45,373 and so if we have genetic diversity, 210 00:11:45,373 --> 00:11:48,643 then it allows a population the potential to adapt and change 211 00:11:48,643 --> 00:11:50,579 with those parasites. 212 00:11:51,973 --> 00:11:55,511 Freeman: Sex has been vital to our survival. 213 00:11:56,311 --> 00:11:59,648 But sex is bound to change. 214 00:11:59,648 --> 00:12:02,083 It can happen in a million years 215 00:12:02,083 --> 00:12:04,853 if the "Y" Chromosome disappears, 216 00:12:04,853 --> 00:12:07,622 or it could happen within the next decade. 217 00:12:09,358 --> 00:12:11,426 This stem-cell researcher may have a way 218 00:12:11,426 --> 00:12:15,197 to let any two people, regardless of their gender, 219 00:12:15,197 --> 00:12:16,465 make a baby. 220 00:12:19,668 --> 00:12:22,538 How do you make a baby? 221 00:12:22,538 --> 00:12:27,075 Well, you need to fertilize an egg, 222 00:12:27,075 --> 00:12:33,748 a process that always used to start with boy meets girl. 223 00:12:33,748 --> 00:12:36,919 But for the last 30 years, 224 00:12:36,919 --> 00:12:42,824 doctors have also been able to fertilize an egg in a test tube. 225 00:12:42,824 --> 00:12:47,594 But science is about to offer a radically new way 226 00:12:47,595 --> 00:12:49,932 to make people. 227 00:12:49,932 --> 00:12:52,541 You start with an egg from a man or a sperm cell from a woman. 228 00:12:59,658 --> 00:13:03,829 This cell may change the future of human sex. 229 00:13:03,829 --> 00:13:07,366 It's a cell from ordinary human skin. 230 00:13:07,366 --> 00:13:10,536 But fertility expert Renee reijo pera 231 00:13:10,536 --> 00:13:12,438 of Stanford university 232 00:13:12,438 --> 00:13:15,608 is trying to transform it into a cell 233 00:13:15,608 --> 00:13:18,109 that could create a new human. 234 00:13:18,110 --> 00:13:20,979 For most of human history, we've thought 235 00:13:20,979 --> 00:13:24,483 that as we develop, we have the cells that we have. 236 00:13:24,483 --> 00:13:28,555 If we have skin cells, they're going to make more skin cells. 237 00:13:28,555 --> 00:13:31,424 In 2007, there was a major breakthrough. 238 00:13:31,424 --> 00:13:33,058 We can take skin cells, 239 00:13:33,058 --> 00:13:36,996 and we can move them back to the beginning of life -- 240 00:13:36,996 --> 00:13:38,598 the embryonic state. 241 00:13:38,598 --> 00:13:41,834 Freeman: These skin cells are bioengineered 242 00:13:41,834 --> 00:13:44,070 to become embryonic stem cells, 243 00:13:44,070 --> 00:13:47,406 cells that exist naturally in a human embryo. 244 00:13:47,406 --> 00:13:51,010 They have the power to turn into any type of cell 245 00:13:51,010 --> 00:13:52,578 in the human body -- 246 00:13:52,578 --> 00:13:57,817 heart muscle, neurons, even lung cells. 247 00:14:02,255 --> 00:14:04,556 Other researchers are trying to use them 248 00:14:04,556 --> 00:14:05,958 to repair damaged organs. 249 00:14:05,958 --> 00:14:09,195 But Renee has a different plan -- 250 00:14:09,195 --> 00:14:13,831 to sculpt cell types our bodies normally could not. 251 00:14:13,832 --> 00:14:16,468 So, stem cells are a lot like Clay. 252 00:14:16,468 --> 00:14:19,072 They need to be given instructions 253 00:14:19,072 --> 00:14:21,407 in what cell type they will differentiate to. 254 00:14:21,407 --> 00:14:26,746 They can become any of 216 different cell types. 255 00:14:27,980 --> 00:14:31,951 Clay is similar in that if a sculptor takes the Clay, 256 00:14:31,951 --> 00:14:34,619 they can actually direct the Clay 257 00:14:34,620 --> 00:14:38,124 into any structure that you want. 258 00:14:40,259 --> 00:14:42,462 A stem cell takes directions 259 00:14:42,462 --> 00:14:45,297 to become a cell with a unique job 260 00:14:45,297 --> 00:14:49,335 from a myriad of proteins and other organic chemicals. 261 00:14:49,335 --> 00:14:55,007 Renee and her team wanted to make sperm and egg cells, 262 00:14:55,007 --> 00:14:58,710 so they set to find the specific chemical instructions 263 00:14:58,710 --> 00:15:02,614 that would make stem cells develop down that route. 264 00:15:02,615 --> 00:15:05,083 Pera: To make a sperm cell from stem cells, 265 00:15:05,083 --> 00:15:08,387 what we've done is we've taken skin cells from men, 266 00:15:08,387 --> 00:15:11,390 and we've reprogrammed them to embryonic cells 267 00:15:11,390 --> 00:15:16,162 and then used bone proteins to direct the stem cells 268 00:15:16,162 --> 00:15:18,764 down the sperm-cell lineage, 269 00:15:18,765 --> 00:15:20,866 kind of like starting with a ball of Clay. 270 00:15:20,866 --> 00:15:23,702 We start with a small ball of Clay, 271 00:15:23,702 --> 00:15:28,207 and we try to get the cells to differentiate along a lineage. 272 00:15:28,207 --> 00:15:31,510 Freeman: Renee is halfway through the process 273 00:15:31,510 --> 00:15:35,481 of activating the instructions inside the "Y" Chromosome 274 00:15:35,481 --> 00:15:39,051 of an infertile man's stem cell 275 00:15:39,051 --> 00:15:45,324 so that she can craft from it a healthy, potent sperm cell. 276 00:15:45,324 --> 00:15:48,027 But since males have an "X" Chromosome, 277 00:15:48,027 --> 00:15:50,463 Renee believes a similar procedure 278 00:15:50,463 --> 00:15:53,065 could take a male patient's stem cell 279 00:15:53,065 --> 00:15:54,767 and turn it into an egg. 280 00:15:54,767 --> 00:15:56,835 Pera: It is possible that someday, 281 00:15:56,836 --> 00:16:01,206 same-sex couples could have their own children, 282 00:16:01,206 --> 00:16:04,843 especially if the couple is comprised of two men 283 00:16:04,843 --> 00:16:08,414 because then one of the men could provide the egg 284 00:16:08,414 --> 00:16:10,383 and the other the sperm. 285 00:16:10,383 --> 00:16:13,719 Freeman: Renee believes that eventually, 286 00:16:13,719 --> 00:16:17,855 she could make sperm cells from a woman's stem cell. 287 00:16:17,856 --> 00:16:19,424 But it's a challenge 288 00:16:19,424 --> 00:16:23,395 because it requires importing sperm-making instructions 289 00:16:23,395 --> 00:16:25,798 from the "Y" Chromosome of a man. 290 00:16:25,798 --> 00:16:29,034 It's a little harder to imagine same-sex couples 291 00:16:29,034 --> 00:16:31,070 that are comprised of two women 292 00:16:31,070 --> 00:16:34,440 being able to have their own children at this time 293 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,843 just because of the number of genes 294 00:16:36,843 --> 00:16:40,779 that are on the "Y" Chromosome that are required to make sperm, 295 00:16:40,779 --> 00:16:43,315 probably around 50 or 100. 296 00:16:43,315 --> 00:16:44,951 It's not impossible, 297 00:16:44,951 --> 00:16:50,288 but it's just much less likely in the next 10 years or so. 298 00:16:50,289 --> 00:16:53,526 Freeman: Thanks to the work of Renee and her colleagues, 299 00:16:53,526 --> 00:16:56,061 the age-old biology of sexual reproduction 300 00:16:56,061 --> 00:16:59,432 is about to undergo a momentous change. 301 00:16:59,432 --> 00:17:01,734 With stem-cell reproduction, 302 00:17:01,734 --> 00:17:04,002 any two human beings could conceive a child 303 00:17:04,002 --> 00:17:07,639 regardless of their gender or age. 304 00:17:07,639 --> 00:17:11,811 But not everyone thinks it's a good idea. 305 00:17:11,811 --> 00:17:14,480 I'm always surprised how many people -- 306 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,915 I mean, I get bad calls about that. 307 00:17:16,915 --> 00:17:20,786 People -- they're so worried about the world being taken over 308 00:17:20,786 --> 00:17:23,789 by people that are now reproducing in a dish. 309 00:17:23,789 --> 00:17:26,758 I think that our technology will be wonderful 310 00:17:26,758 --> 00:17:28,260 for infertile couples, 311 00:17:28,260 --> 00:17:30,429 but I think couples that are well-able 312 00:17:30,429 --> 00:17:33,765 to have children naturally will continue to do so. 313 00:17:33,765 --> 00:17:35,801 Freeman: Let's say a female sperm 314 00:17:35,801 --> 00:17:38,303 and a male egg could be created in a lab. 315 00:17:38,303 --> 00:17:42,775 Couples in any combination of genders could conceive a child. 316 00:17:42,775 --> 00:17:47,012 But the fetus would still need to spend nine months 317 00:17:47,012 --> 00:17:49,114 inside a woman -- 318 00:17:49,114 --> 00:17:55,087 unless we could grow our young in an artificial womb. 319 00:17:55,959 --> 00:18:01,297 We all began our lives in the same place -- a woman's womb. 320 00:18:01,297 --> 00:18:06,302 It was nine months of blissful ignorance for most of us 321 00:18:06,302 --> 00:18:08,671 but not for our mothers. 322 00:18:08,672 --> 00:18:14,244 What if women didn't have to carry the burden of pregnancy? 323 00:18:16,312 --> 00:18:21,383 A radical shift in reproduction is already happening. 324 00:18:21,384 --> 00:18:25,755 Marine biologist Nick otway has just brought 325 00:18:25,755 --> 00:18:31,160 living creatures into the world in an completely new way. 326 00:18:32,995 --> 00:18:36,399 We've done something that was rather strange, 327 00:18:36,399 --> 00:18:39,334 rather abnormal, and challenging, too, 328 00:18:39,335 --> 00:18:42,705 to think about what are the implications in the future. 329 00:18:42,705 --> 00:18:44,908 Freeman: Nick has built a machine 330 00:18:44,908 --> 00:18:47,176 that gives birth to living sharks. 331 00:18:47,176 --> 00:18:49,479 Otway: We're looking at a gray box, 332 00:18:49,479 --> 00:18:52,014 which is actually an artificial uterus. 333 00:18:52,014 --> 00:18:54,083 We shorten it to an a.U., 334 00:18:54,083 --> 00:18:56,952 and we developed this -- designed it -- 335 00:18:56,953 --> 00:19:00,289 to actually take embryos out of a particular species of shark 336 00:19:00,289 --> 00:19:02,825 and see if we can continue their development 337 00:19:02,825 --> 00:19:04,461 in an artificial environment. 338 00:19:07,964 --> 00:19:11,800 Freeman: Nick built his a.U. -- His mechanical womb -- 339 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,603 to restore the population 340 00:19:13,603 --> 00:19:16,940 of the critically endangered grey nurse shark. 341 00:19:16,940 --> 00:19:20,810 It was a mission that came straight from the top levels 342 00:19:20,810 --> 00:19:22,879 of the Australian government. 343 00:19:22,879 --> 00:19:25,981 Otway: One minister actually challenged me 344 00:19:25,981 --> 00:19:28,651 to come up with a breeding program. 345 00:19:28,651 --> 00:19:31,120 He said, "Okay, come back in six weeks, 346 00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:33,356 and don't tell me you can't do it." 347 00:19:33,356 --> 00:19:36,159 Freeman: Human beings have just about mastered 348 00:19:36,159 --> 00:19:39,995 keeping adult fish alive outside of their natural habitat 349 00:19:39,995 --> 00:19:42,398 by engineering aquariums. 350 00:19:42,398 --> 00:19:45,900 Chemicals are balanced, ph levels kept in check, 351 00:19:45,901 --> 00:19:50,373 waste products cleaned out, and nutrients delivered on schedule. 352 00:19:50,373 --> 00:19:55,244 But keeping fish alive that haven't been born yet 353 00:19:55,244 --> 00:19:57,746 is a whole new challenge. 354 00:19:57,747 --> 00:19:59,015 Otway: The a.U. Is a small aquarium, 355 00:19:59,015 --> 00:20:00,850 and so you got to create the environment for the embryos. 356 00:20:00,850 --> 00:20:01,851 They're delicate. 357 00:20:01,851 --> 00:20:06,054 They have specific requirements, 358 00:20:06,055 --> 00:20:08,224 and the mother is not providing that -- you are. 359 00:20:08,224 --> 00:20:10,159 Freeman: Unlike an adult fish, 360 00:20:10,159 --> 00:20:12,328 the needs of delicate shark embryos 361 00:20:12,328 --> 00:20:16,366 drastically change as they grow. 362 00:20:16,366 --> 00:20:18,735 Otway: Sharks use a complex uterine fluid 363 00:20:18,735 --> 00:20:21,471 early on in development and subsequent -- 364 00:20:21,471 --> 00:20:23,373 three months into development, 365 00:20:23,373 --> 00:20:25,007 they switch to a seawater environment, 366 00:20:25,007 --> 00:20:27,876 which mum pumps in the seawater. 367 00:20:27,876 --> 00:20:30,913 So we really do need to understand that complex fluid -- 368 00:20:30,913 --> 00:20:34,450 the composition and how we need to maintain it 369 00:20:34,450 --> 00:20:36,352 in an artificial environment, 370 00:20:36,352 --> 00:20:39,054 and that's something that's not been done before. 371 00:20:39,055 --> 00:20:42,692 Freeman: Nick programmed his artificial uterus 372 00:20:42,692 --> 00:20:45,661 to change its chemistry from bodily fluid to seawater 373 00:20:45,661 --> 00:20:49,499 in line with a mother shark's natural rhythm. 374 00:20:51,901 --> 00:20:54,270 Experimenting with the severely endangered grey nurse shark 375 00:20:54,270 --> 00:20:55,571 was too risky, 376 00:20:55,571 --> 00:21:00,410 so Nick calibrated the first run of his artificial womb 377 00:21:00,410 --> 00:21:04,913 for a more common species -- the wobbegong shark. 378 00:21:04,914 --> 00:21:09,519 Otway: Wobbegong sharks are easily handled in captivity 379 00:21:09,519 --> 00:21:11,688 and easily maintained in captivity. 380 00:21:11,688 --> 00:21:14,555 We already knew that they had actually bred in captivity. 381 00:21:14,556 --> 00:21:15,825 All those things meant 382 00:21:15,825 --> 00:21:18,327 that we could actually have a smaller animal 383 00:21:18,327 --> 00:21:20,496 that we could use as a model species, 384 00:21:20,496 --> 00:21:23,165 and, of course, it wasn't critically endangered. 385 00:21:23,165 --> 00:21:26,502 Freeman: To grow baby wobbegongs, 386 00:21:26,502 --> 00:21:29,371 Nick harvested the growing embryos from a pregnant female 387 00:21:29,372 --> 00:21:32,842 and transferred them to his artificial womb. 388 00:21:32,842 --> 00:21:36,945 He kept constant watch over the tiny unborn pups, 389 00:21:36,945 --> 00:21:40,316 precisely managing the conditions to keep them alive. 390 00:21:40,316 --> 00:21:43,485 Otway: I think you become attached to these guys. 391 00:21:43,485 --> 00:21:47,022 They're sort of animals that you've taken away from mum, 392 00:21:47,022 --> 00:21:49,958 and you hope that nothing detrimental occurs. 393 00:21:49,959 --> 00:21:55,031 Freeman: The procedure was a resounding success. 394 00:21:55,031 --> 00:21:56,498 After 9 weeks, 395 00:21:56,498 --> 00:22:01,470 Nick's lab gave birth to 14 perfectly formed shark pups. 396 00:22:01,470 --> 00:22:06,176 Nick believes that what is possible for sharks today 397 00:22:06,176 --> 00:22:09,011 is possible for humans tomorrow. 398 00:22:09,011 --> 00:22:14,216 It's all a matter of knowing how and when a mother's womb 399 00:22:14,216 --> 00:22:17,553 changes its chemical composition. 400 00:22:17,553 --> 00:22:18,754 [ Crying ] 401 00:22:18,754 --> 00:22:20,523 Otway: I think technology has come leaps and bounds 402 00:22:20,523 --> 00:22:23,959 in just a few years, and around the corner, 403 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,363 we could be looking at some major changes. 404 00:22:27,363 --> 00:22:31,267 I could potentially see preterm infants 405 00:22:31,267 --> 00:22:35,471 possibly going back further in the preterm, 406 00:22:35,471 --> 00:22:37,707 but even then, I think there's still ethical questions 407 00:22:37,707 --> 00:22:39,242 one has to ask about it. 408 00:22:39,242 --> 00:22:43,012 Freeman: Would a baby grown in a laboratory 409 00:22:43,012 --> 00:22:47,216 be the same as an infant nurtured inside a woman? 410 00:22:47,216 --> 00:22:51,152 Would society accept these children as equals 411 00:22:51,153 --> 00:22:53,923 to those born from a natural womb? 412 00:22:53,923 --> 00:22:57,093 Only time will answer the many questions 413 00:22:57,093 --> 00:23:00,663 of growing our young outside a woman's uterus. 414 00:23:00,663 --> 00:23:05,134 We may choose to face these questions sooner than you think. 415 00:23:05,134 --> 00:23:09,005 An artificial human uterus could make miscarriages, 416 00:23:09,005 --> 00:23:11,006 prenatal complications, 417 00:23:11,007 --> 00:23:14,810 and death in childbirth horrors of the past. 418 00:23:14,810 --> 00:23:16,112 [ Baby coos ] 419 00:23:16,112 --> 00:23:20,350 When babies aren't just conceived in a test tube 420 00:23:20,350 --> 00:23:22,150 but born in one, 421 00:23:22,151 --> 00:23:27,590 and when any combination of people can create a child, 422 00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:31,694 what will be the meaning of the word "Family?" 423 00:23:34,864 --> 00:23:39,101 the family is the backbone of our society. 424 00:23:39,101 --> 00:23:41,270 But what is a family? 425 00:23:41,270 --> 00:23:45,107 Does it start with a man and a woman, 426 00:23:45,107 --> 00:23:52,949 or, as some cultures say, a man and many women, or two women? 427 00:23:52,949 --> 00:23:56,452 When technology transforms how children are born 428 00:23:56,452 --> 00:24:01,924 and who their parents can be, what will our society look like? 429 00:24:01,924 --> 00:24:04,326 Perhaps we can find a clue 430 00:24:04,326 --> 00:24:08,798 in the societies of our closest animal relatives. 431 00:24:11,133 --> 00:24:14,103 Frans de waal has dedicated his career 432 00:24:14,103 --> 00:24:17,439 to studying the societies of the great apes. 433 00:24:17,439 --> 00:24:19,240 [ Monkey screeches ] 434 00:24:19,241 --> 00:24:24,246 In the wild, they must fight to survive and often die trying. 435 00:24:24,246 --> 00:24:27,949 Chimpanzees kill each other over territory. 436 00:24:27,950 --> 00:24:31,053 Wild chimpanzees are very competitive, 437 00:24:31,053 --> 00:24:33,989 especially over rank among males -- 438 00:24:33,990 --> 00:24:37,126 who's gonna be the dominant male. 439 00:24:37,126 --> 00:24:40,963 Freeman: What is true for chimps is often true for us. 440 00:24:40,963 --> 00:24:43,566 Oh, no. 441 00:24:45,401 --> 00:24:47,537 [ Sighs ] Shoot. 442 00:24:49,138 --> 00:24:51,640 Freeman: Frans is trying to understand 443 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,177 what shapes the social roles of male and female primates. 444 00:24:55,177 --> 00:24:58,113 De waal: Chimpanzee society is quite different 445 00:24:58,114 --> 00:25:00,616 in that they have no family structure like humans do, 446 00:25:00,616 --> 00:25:01,951 like male, female offspring. 447 00:25:01,951 --> 00:25:03,719 It's usually just the females 448 00:25:03,719 --> 00:25:06,288 who have the offspring and care for them. 449 00:25:06,288 --> 00:25:12,861 Freeman: We share 98.5% of our genome with chimps. 450 00:25:12,861 --> 00:25:16,498 But frans knows that chimps are not our only close relatives. 451 00:25:16,499 --> 00:25:19,102 De waal: I was interested in chimpanzees, 452 00:25:19,102 --> 00:25:22,905 and I worked with them over many years, and then I saw bonobos. 453 00:25:22,905 --> 00:25:25,942 And people called them pygmy chimps at the time, 454 00:25:25,942 --> 00:25:28,177 and they just considered them a small kind of chimps, 455 00:25:28,177 --> 00:25:30,746 and I saw immediately that they were totally different -- 456 00:25:30,746 --> 00:25:32,613 in their behavior, in their appearance. 457 00:25:32,614 --> 00:25:33,849 And so I couldn't believe 458 00:25:33,849 --> 00:25:35,150 that people had sort of lumped them together, 459 00:25:35,150 --> 00:25:36,886 and I wanted to know more about them. 460 00:25:36,986 --> 00:25:39,256 Freeman: Just like chimps, 461 00:25:39,256 --> 00:25:43,827 bonobos share 98.5% of their genes with humans. 462 00:25:43,827 --> 00:25:47,564 But as frans observed them, 463 00:25:47,564 --> 00:25:52,301 he discovered their society was utterly different from chimps. 464 00:25:52,301 --> 00:25:56,373 Female bonobos are collectively dominant over males. 465 00:25:56,373 --> 00:25:58,408 They're not individually dominant 466 00:25:58,408 --> 00:26:00,410 because they are smaller, but as a group, 467 00:26:00,410 --> 00:26:02,678 the females dominate the males. 468 00:26:02,678 --> 00:26:04,847 [ Monkeys screeching ] 469 00:26:04,847 --> 00:26:07,217 Freeman: Even though bonobo males 470 00:26:07,217 --> 00:26:10,954 are physically larger and stronger than females, 471 00:26:10,954 --> 00:26:14,891 the females form alliances that keep the peace. 472 00:26:14,891 --> 00:26:19,930 Violence is rare, killing even more rare. 473 00:26:19,930 --> 00:26:24,334 Females eat first and share food with the males. 474 00:26:24,334 --> 00:26:27,202 And if any social crisis erupts, 475 00:26:27,203 --> 00:26:31,875 the bonobos have a special way of relieving the stress. 476 00:26:34,611 --> 00:26:36,880 De waal: Bonobos have sex almost all the time. 477 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,448 Females have sex with females. 478 00:26:38,448 --> 00:26:39,816 Males have sex with males. 479 00:26:39,816 --> 00:26:42,684 There is, of course, a lot of female-male sex going on. 480 00:26:42,685 --> 00:26:45,188 And so, there's a lot more sex going on 481 00:26:45,188 --> 00:26:48,458 in the bonobo society than in the chimpanzee society. 482 00:26:48,458 --> 00:26:51,728 Sex serves as bonding between females, 483 00:26:51,728 --> 00:26:55,731 preventing conflict, reconciling after conflicts. 484 00:26:55,732 --> 00:26:57,867 And so, as a result, the bonobos are known 485 00:26:57,867 --> 00:27:00,204 as sort of the hippies of the primate world, 486 00:27:00,204 --> 00:27:03,807 like "Make love, not war" Kind of primates. 487 00:27:03,807 --> 00:27:07,711 Freeman: Sex is the female bonobos' tool of choice 488 00:27:07,711 --> 00:27:09,979 for building alliances. 489 00:27:09,979 --> 00:27:12,414 De waal: The females will have some sexual relations 490 00:27:12,415 --> 00:27:13,617 and do some bonding, 491 00:27:13,617 --> 00:27:14,951 and they will become dominant over the male. 492 00:27:16,386 --> 00:27:20,923 Freeman: Bonobos and chimps are genetically almost identical, 493 00:27:20,923 --> 00:27:24,661 and yet their societies are completely different. 494 00:27:24,661 --> 00:27:29,399 Frans believes that is because the role of males and females 495 00:27:29,399 --> 00:27:34,505 are dictated not by genes but by a species' native environment. 496 00:27:34,505 --> 00:27:37,674 De waal: Bonobos live in a richer forest 497 00:27:37,674 --> 00:27:39,042 where there's more resources around. 498 00:27:39,042 --> 00:27:41,879 In addition, they don't have competition from gorillas 499 00:27:41,879 --> 00:27:43,880 who eat a lot of ground vegetation, 500 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,550 and so bonobos seem to have an easier time in their ecology 501 00:27:47,550 --> 00:27:49,686 than the chimpanzees, 502 00:27:49,686 --> 00:27:51,387 and that permits females to have 503 00:27:51,387 --> 00:27:52,722 these effective coalitions 504 00:27:52,722 --> 00:27:55,191 because a chimpanzee female is basically on her own 505 00:27:55,191 --> 00:27:57,093 if she meets a male most of the time. 506 00:27:57,093 --> 00:28:00,230 And so the bonobos are a more cohesive society. 507 00:28:00,230 --> 00:28:03,733 Freeman: So, what can bonobos and chimps tell us 508 00:28:03,734 --> 00:28:06,036 about the roles of men and women 509 00:28:06,036 --> 00:28:08,338 and how they might change in the future? 510 00:28:08,438 --> 00:28:10,608 In the past few centuries, 511 00:28:10,608 --> 00:28:14,011 human ecology has dramatically changed. 512 00:28:14,011 --> 00:28:16,781 Most people now have food and shelter, 513 00:28:16,781 --> 00:28:19,950 like the bonobos do in their natural habitat, 514 00:28:19,950 --> 00:28:26,122 and most of us have easy access to sex when we choose to. 515 00:28:26,122 --> 00:28:27,124 Hmm. 516 00:28:27,124 --> 00:28:29,626 Are we headed for a society 517 00:28:29,626 --> 00:28:33,363 that's less like the warring and male-dominated chimps 518 00:28:33,363 --> 00:28:37,501 and more like the free-loving and egalitarian bonobos... 519 00:28:37,501 --> 00:28:39,403 [ Growling ] 520 00:28:39,403 --> 00:28:43,006 ...a society where children are raised by communities, 521 00:28:43,006 --> 00:28:45,809 and when conflicts occur, 522 00:28:45,809 --> 00:28:48,279 they are resolved with free-spirited sex? 523 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,182 De waal: Well, I think the abundance of food supply 524 00:28:52,182 --> 00:28:53,216 makes things easier, 525 00:28:53,216 --> 00:28:55,019 but it doesn't change, necessarily, 526 00:28:55,019 --> 00:28:56,420 how we respond to each other 527 00:28:56,420 --> 00:28:58,656 and how adults respond to children 528 00:28:58,656 --> 00:29:01,057 or how adults respond to each other. 529 00:29:01,057 --> 00:29:03,093 Freeman: Frans believes that, 530 00:29:03,093 --> 00:29:07,030 although our environment does shape our behavior, 531 00:29:07,030 --> 00:29:09,967 it takes many, many generations to do so. 532 00:29:09,967 --> 00:29:12,502 The behavior of men and women today 533 00:29:12,502 --> 00:29:15,439 harks back to the environment we lived in 534 00:29:15,439 --> 00:29:20,944 tens of thousands of years ago, when our species first evolved. 535 00:29:20,944 --> 00:29:24,214 De waal: Whereas chimpanzees and bonobos live in the forest, 536 00:29:24,214 --> 00:29:26,883 humans left the forest and entered the Savannah. 537 00:29:26,883 --> 00:29:29,119 The Savannah is a very dangerous place 538 00:29:29,119 --> 00:29:31,088 because you cannot easily escape. 539 00:29:31,088 --> 00:29:33,023 There's big lions there and hyenas, 540 00:29:33,023 --> 00:29:36,360 and in the old days, they were even bigger than they are now, 541 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,897 and so humans needed to have a different kind of society. 542 00:29:39,897 --> 00:29:43,166 The males got involved in protecting offspring. 543 00:29:43,166 --> 00:29:47,037 As a result, you get pair bonding between male and female, 544 00:29:47,037 --> 00:29:48,973 so you get a nuclear family, 545 00:29:48,973 --> 00:29:51,008 and that's very different from the chimpanzee 546 00:29:51,008 --> 00:29:53,277 or the bonobo, where the males are barely involved. 547 00:29:53,277 --> 00:29:56,747 Freeman: Unlike the great apes, 548 00:29:56,747 --> 00:30:00,717 who assigned all child-rearing to females, 549 00:30:00,717 --> 00:30:03,653 human beings usually pair up to raise young. 550 00:30:03,654 --> 00:30:07,124 This behavior is deeply rooted in our brain chemistry. 551 00:30:07,124 --> 00:30:08,492 [ Growling ] 552 00:30:10,126 --> 00:30:14,965 Neuroscientists have discovered that hormones, like oxytocin, 553 00:30:14,965 --> 00:30:17,534 are released inside the brain when humans interact 554 00:30:17,534 --> 00:30:18,901 with their bonded partner. 555 00:30:18,902 --> 00:30:25,642 These hormones urge us to trust each other and bond. 556 00:30:25,642 --> 00:30:27,945 And so, I think this pair-bonding framework 557 00:30:27,945 --> 00:30:30,080 of the human species is very important, 558 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,182 and it's basically what sets us apart. 559 00:30:32,182 --> 00:30:36,386 Frans believes that this drive to form our families 560 00:30:36,386 --> 00:30:40,123 around a strong bond between two individuals 561 00:30:40,123 --> 00:30:45,128 will not be altered for thousands of years to come. 562 00:30:45,128 --> 00:30:47,831 Technology may change our food supply, 563 00:30:47,831 --> 00:30:51,134 who's capable of reproduction, and how their young are born, 564 00:30:51,134 --> 00:30:55,005 but frans predicts most of us will choose to reproduce 565 00:30:55,005 --> 00:30:58,641 not through a community but rather with a partner. 566 00:30:58,642 --> 00:31:03,313 After all, old habits are hard to break. 567 00:31:04,447 --> 00:31:08,218 But sexual reproduction between only two people 568 00:31:08,218 --> 00:31:10,387 may eventually be deemed inferior. 569 00:31:10,387 --> 00:31:15,359 This doctor has found a way to make children healthier 570 00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:19,163 by giving them three genetic parents. 571 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,137 Sex is the greatest creative force on the planet. 572 00:31:25,137 --> 00:31:27,606 It mixes the DNA of two people 573 00:31:27,606 --> 00:31:32,177 into novel and sometimes quite remarkable combinations. 574 00:31:32,178 --> 00:31:37,283 Without sex, there would be no Michelangelo, no Michael Jordan. 575 00:31:37,283 --> 00:31:39,418 The more you jumble up DNA, 576 00:31:39,419 --> 00:31:42,822 the more creative possibilities there are. 577 00:31:42,822 --> 00:31:44,757 So wouldn't it be better 578 00:31:44,757 --> 00:31:47,961 if we could have more than two parents? 579 00:31:51,297 --> 00:31:55,901 Doug turnbull of newcastle university is a medical rebel. 580 00:31:55,901 --> 00:31:58,804 His team has invented a procedure 581 00:31:58,804 --> 00:32:02,708 that can only be performed by breaking the law. 582 00:32:02,708 --> 00:32:05,911 Turnbull: I think what we're doing -- 583 00:32:05,911 --> 00:32:07,980 and I think we've got to keep this into perspective -- 584 00:32:07,980 --> 00:32:11,784 is that we're trying to prevent serious disease. 585 00:32:11,784 --> 00:32:14,187 I don't believe that it's right and proper 586 00:32:14,187 --> 00:32:16,321 to be doing these sort of techniques 587 00:32:16,322 --> 00:32:19,158 unless we're trying to prevent serious disease, 588 00:32:19,158 --> 00:32:23,696 and I think that most scientists would feel exactly the same way. 589 00:32:23,696 --> 00:32:27,800 Freeman: Doug's radical idea could cure a number of diseases 590 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,270 that occur when our cells can't get enough power. 591 00:32:31,270 --> 00:32:35,775 Every cell in our body contains mitochondria. 592 00:32:35,775 --> 00:32:39,278 They provide power by taking material 593 00:32:39,278 --> 00:32:44,083 from the foods we eat and converting it to organic fuel. 594 00:32:44,083 --> 00:32:48,287 But when mitochondria aren't working properly, 595 00:32:48,287 --> 00:32:51,591 our cells can barely function. 596 00:32:51,591 --> 00:32:53,125 Turnbull: That leads to the diseases 597 00:32:53,125 --> 00:32:56,495 where it affects the central nervous system, the heart. 598 00:32:56,495 --> 00:32:59,965 They can produce epilepsy, strokes, blindness, 599 00:32:59,965 --> 00:33:02,936 deafness, dementia. 600 00:33:04,503 --> 00:33:08,875 Freeman: Mitochondria have their own separate DNA, 601 00:33:08,875 --> 00:33:13,111 and a child inherits all his or her mitochondria 602 00:33:13,111 --> 00:33:16,215 from the mother's fertilized egg. 603 00:33:16,215 --> 00:33:20,820 But Doug has discovered how to eliminate the disease. 604 00:33:20,820 --> 00:33:24,023 He plans to transplant the embryo's nucleus, 605 00:33:24,023 --> 00:33:27,493 where the majority of the child's DNA is stored, 606 00:33:27,493 --> 00:33:32,364 into a new cell with healthy mitochondria. 607 00:33:32,364 --> 00:33:33,966 While the law prevents him 608 00:33:33,966 --> 00:33:36,769 from performing the full procedure in humans, 609 00:33:36,769 --> 00:33:41,507 he often does similar work in his garden. 610 00:33:41,507 --> 00:33:43,643 Turnbull: If we've got bad soil, 611 00:33:43,643 --> 00:33:46,012 then a plant just simply won't grow. 612 00:33:46,012 --> 00:33:49,581 If you've got an egg which has got unhealthy mitochondria, 613 00:33:49,582 --> 00:33:53,419 then what it means is then that won't grow into a normal child. 614 00:33:53,419 --> 00:33:55,721 It won't grow into a normal adult. 615 00:33:55,721 --> 00:33:58,456 But if you've managed to transfer the material 616 00:33:58,456 --> 00:34:01,326 from an egg which has got unhealthy mitochondria 617 00:34:01,327 --> 00:34:03,963 into one which has got healthy mitochondria, 618 00:34:03,963 --> 00:34:07,299 then that should allow a child to flourish, 619 00:34:07,498 --> 00:34:09,033 and that's the principle. 620 00:34:09,034 --> 00:34:12,071 We really want to move the nuclear genetic material 621 00:34:12,071 --> 00:34:14,540 from something which is unhealthy 622 00:34:14,540 --> 00:34:17,208 into a situation where it's healthy. 623 00:34:17,208 --> 00:34:20,111 Freeman: Transplanting a seed from a pot of bad soil 624 00:34:20,112 --> 00:34:22,348 to a pot of healthy soil is one thing. 625 00:34:22,348 --> 00:34:25,650 Transferring the nucleus of a human embryo cell 626 00:34:25,650 --> 00:34:30,089 into a donor cell requires the utmost care and precision. 627 00:34:30,089 --> 00:34:33,625 If anything goes wrong, the infant that develops 628 00:34:33,625 --> 00:34:37,228 from that embryo could have severe birth defects. 629 00:34:37,228 --> 00:34:41,600 But Doug and his colleagues at the newcastle fertility clinic 630 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,969 are mastering the process 631 00:34:43,969 --> 00:34:48,341 by performing legally permitted practice runs. 632 00:34:48,341 --> 00:34:52,245 Turnbull: So, the eggs are collected from women 633 00:34:52,245 --> 00:34:54,113 who are donating their eggs for research. 634 00:34:54,113 --> 00:34:57,750 These eggs undergo an I.V.F. Procedure -- 635 00:34:57,750 --> 00:34:59,786 in vitro fertilization. 636 00:34:59,786 --> 00:35:03,155 Freeman: Doug's team takes a donated egg 637 00:35:03,155 --> 00:35:05,157 and removes its nucleus, 638 00:35:05,157 --> 00:35:09,295 creating an empty vessel with healthy mitochondria. 639 00:35:09,295 --> 00:35:13,632 They then transplant the nucleus of the defective cell 640 00:35:13,632 --> 00:35:15,500 into the healthy vessel. 641 00:35:15,500 --> 00:35:17,136 The law prevents them 642 00:35:17,136 --> 00:35:20,473 from putting this egg back inside a mother. 643 00:35:20,473 --> 00:35:21,807 But if they did, 644 00:35:21,807 --> 00:35:26,678 that child would be unlike any other on earth. 645 00:35:26,678 --> 00:35:31,116 She or he would have 23,000 nuclear genes 646 00:35:31,117 --> 00:35:32,952 from two parents 647 00:35:32,952 --> 00:35:37,757 and 13 mitochondrial genes from someone else. 648 00:35:37,757 --> 00:35:43,596 Genetically speaking, the child would have three parents. 649 00:35:43,596 --> 00:35:45,498 Many of Doug's opponents argue 650 00:35:45,498 --> 00:35:48,834 that giving a child any amount of third-party genes, 651 00:35:48,834 --> 00:35:51,102 on matter what the medical value, 652 00:35:51,103 --> 00:35:52,638 is crossing a line. 653 00:35:52,638 --> 00:35:55,240 Turnbull: It's 23,000 versus 13, 654 00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:58,410 so you can see it is a tiny contribution. 655 00:35:58,410 --> 00:36:00,678 And if it's preventing disease, 656 00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:05,350 surely that's a good thing rather than a bad thing. 657 00:36:05,350 --> 00:36:07,319 But for some people, that's unacceptable. 658 00:36:07,319 --> 00:36:10,422 Freeman: Doug and his team are now involved 659 00:36:10,422 --> 00:36:12,158 in a public consultation 660 00:36:12,158 --> 00:36:15,294 to change the u.K. Government's law. 661 00:36:15,294 --> 00:36:19,131 If they are permitted to move forward, 662 00:36:19,131 --> 00:36:23,368 they believe they can eradicate mitochondrial disease. 663 00:36:23,368 --> 00:36:26,605 It is something which is controversial, 664 00:36:26,605 --> 00:36:30,042 and it will be against some people's religious views, 665 00:36:30,042 --> 00:36:31,442 for example. 666 00:36:31,443 --> 00:36:33,979 I think everybody should be allowed to have their views, 667 00:36:33,979 --> 00:36:36,249 but I personally have a different view 668 00:36:36,249 --> 00:36:38,384 because I look after these patients, 669 00:36:38,384 --> 00:36:40,752 and I see just what a devastating effect 670 00:36:40,752 --> 00:36:42,554 it has on the family. 671 00:36:42,554 --> 00:36:46,092 Freeman: Doug's procedure could also be the beginning 672 00:36:46,092 --> 00:36:48,260 of a new class of medicine, 673 00:36:48,260 --> 00:36:52,265 one where devastating genetic diseases are subdued 674 00:36:52,265 --> 00:36:57,102 by giving children genes from any number of third parties. 675 00:36:57,102 --> 00:37:00,138 Our children may someday have one or two parents 676 00:37:00,139 --> 00:37:06,645 that raise them and many more parents that made them. 677 00:37:06,645 --> 00:37:08,213 But why stop there? 678 00:37:08,213 --> 00:37:11,717 Why not make children healthier and stronger 679 00:37:11,717 --> 00:37:14,920 using the best genes nature has to offer 680 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,690 regardless of which species they come from? 681 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:26,739 The sphinx, the mermaid, spider-man. 682 00:37:26,740 --> 00:37:30,009 Hybrid creatures are the stuff of legend -- 683 00:37:30,009 --> 00:37:31,911 the brainpower of a human 684 00:37:31,911 --> 00:37:35,916 married to the physical prowess of an animal. 685 00:37:35,916 --> 00:37:40,955 But such creatures may not remain mythical for much longer. 686 00:37:44,924 --> 00:37:47,726 Randy Lewis is a pioneer. 687 00:37:47,727 --> 00:37:48,929 [ Goat bleats ] 688 00:37:48,929 --> 00:37:53,266 On this remote farm in upstate Utah, 689 00:37:53,266 --> 00:37:56,503 he's pushing scientific boundaries 690 00:37:56,503 --> 00:38:00,107 and creating a new form of agriculture. 691 00:38:00,107 --> 00:38:04,277 But there are those who say he's playing God. 692 00:38:04,278 --> 00:38:05,612 Well, I got interested in chemistry 693 00:38:05,612 --> 00:38:06,880 when I was in high school, 694 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,315 when a high school teacher that I had -- 695 00:38:08,315 --> 00:38:11,217 he allowed us to do some experiments on the side. 696 00:38:11,217 --> 00:38:14,321 So, we were mixing some different kinds of chemicals 697 00:38:14,321 --> 00:38:18,658 and sort of generated a cloud of steam and smoke 698 00:38:18,658 --> 00:38:20,327 that went clear to the ceiling. 699 00:38:20,327 --> 00:38:23,297 He just had a very perplexed look on his face and said, 700 00:38:23,297 --> 00:38:25,232 "We better get the windows open," 701 00:38:25,232 --> 00:38:27,067 and really never said another word about it. 702 00:38:27,067 --> 00:38:29,902 Freeman: Randy got away with it, 703 00:38:29,903 --> 00:38:33,807 and today, he embraces the same fearless spirit. 704 00:38:33,807 --> 00:38:39,747 His latest work is boldly mixing diverse genetic chemicals, 705 00:38:39,747 --> 00:38:43,918 starting with the DNA of this creature. 706 00:38:45,585 --> 00:38:48,154 Lewis: So, this is a golden orb-weaving spider. 707 00:38:48,154 --> 00:38:50,123 As you can see, she's very docile. 708 00:38:50,124 --> 00:38:52,192 The dragline silk, which is the silk 709 00:38:52,192 --> 00:38:54,293 that you can sort of see waving up in the air 710 00:38:54,294 --> 00:38:57,397 that she drags along behind herself as her lifeline, 711 00:38:57,397 --> 00:39:00,935 is actually stronger than kevlar and more elastic than nylon. 712 00:39:02,936 --> 00:39:06,106 Freeman: The immense strength and lightweight nature 713 00:39:06,106 --> 00:39:09,610 of spider silk make it a miracle material. 714 00:39:09,610 --> 00:39:14,514 Its industrial applications are almost endless. 715 00:39:14,514 --> 00:39:17,918 But to date, no farmer has ever built a ranch 716 00:39:17,918 --> 00:39:21,588 with millions of spiders producing lucrative silk. 717 00:39:22,556 --> 00:39:24,456 Lewis: So, there are two real problems 718 00:39:24,457 --> 00:39:25,726 in trying to farm spiders. 719 00:39:25,726 --> 00:39:26,893 First is they're territorial, 720 00:39:26,893 --> 00:39:28,395 and second, they're cannibalistic. 721 00:39:28,395 --> 00:39:29,862 So, when you put a bunch of them together, 722 00:39:29,863 --> 00:39:31,565 what happens is they just start killing each other. 723 00:39:35,502 --> 00:39:38,404 Freeman: But ever the chemical tinkerer, 724 00:39:38,405 --> 00:39:42,509 Randy realized he didn't need spiders to produce spider silk. 725 00:39:42,509 --> 00:39:45,411 All he needed were the genetic chemicals 726 00:39:45,412 --> 00:39:48,482 that give spiders their web-making ability. 727 00:39:48,482 --> 00:39:51,585 Lewis: What we've done is identify the genes 728 00:39:51,585 --> 00:39:54,654 that make up each of the different proteins 729 00:39:54,654 --> 00:39:57,623 for the six different silks that the spider makes, 730 00:39:57,624 --> 00:40:00,527 and we've been able to take those and clone them, 731 00:40:00,527 --> 00:40:03,830 and then we can simply transfer them to another organism. 732 00:40:03,830 --> 00:40:07,333 [ Goat bleats ] 733 00:40:07,334 --> 00:40:10,671 Freeman: Randy's lab transfers these spider genes 734 00:40:10,671 --> 00:40:14,173 into the DNA of fertilized goat eggs. 735 00:40:14,173 --> 00:40:16,242 The goats grow to term 736 00:40:16,242 --> 00:40:21,014 and are born with all the genes that a goat should have, 737 00:40:21,014 --> 00:40:23,316 plus a little something extra. 738 00:40:23,316 --> 00:40:27,954 We've spliced a spider-silk gene into the genome of the goat, 739 00:40:27,954 --> 00:40:30,590 and we've put it in in a situation 740 00:40:30,590 --> 00:40:32,959 where the only time that that gene is used 741 00:40:32,959 --> 00:40:35,295 to make protein is when the goat's producing milk. 742 00:40:37,531 --> 00:40:40,233 Freeman: Randy milks his spider goats 743 00:40:40,233 --> 00:40:42,970 and takes their milk back to his lab, 744 00:40:42,970 --> 00:40:45,706 where it is processed and filtered. 745 00:40:47,374 --> 00:40:50,777 And from one milking alone, 746 00:40:50,777 --> 00:40:56,249 Randy yields about 35 Miles of spider-goat silk. 747 00:40:56,249 --> 00:41:01,254 His work could lead to a new industrial revolution 748 00:41:01,254 --> 00:41:03,323 where groundbreaking biological materials 749 00:41:03,323 --> 00:41:09,129 are produced by animals with genes from different species. 750 00:41:09,129 --> 00:41:11,298 The DNA is the same in all organisms, 751 00:41:11,298 --> 00:41:14,334 so, if you take a piece of DNA from any other organism, 752 00:41:14,334 --> 00:41:17,003 in general, if you put it in the right context, 753 00:41:17,003 --> 00:41:18,338 it's gonna be produced. 754 00:41:19,272 --> 00:41:22,176 Freeman: Randy's work is also proof of the concept 755 00:41:22,176 --> 00:41:25,878 that animal genes could be spliced into human DNA. 756 00:41:27,814 --> 00:41:30,784 I think that one could imagine a situation 757 00:41:30,784 --> 00:41:32,753 where you could take the spider-silk gene 758 00:41:32,753 --> 00:41:34,587 and put it under some kind of control 759 00:41:34,587 --> 00:41:36,022 where a human could produce it. 760 00:41:36,022 --> 00:41:39,058 Freeman: These breakthroughs could lead 761 00:41:39,059 --> 00:41:42,295 to a remarkable new evolution of humanity. 762 00:41:42,295 --> 00:41:45,032 Today, we give our offspring the gifts 763 00:41:45,032 --> 00:41:47,534 of our best genetic traits, 764 00:41:47,534 --> 00:41:50,436 and tomorrow, we could give them the very best 765 00:41:50,437 --> 00:41:52,505 of everything nature has to offer. 766 00:41:52,505 --> 00:41:57,377 Our grandchildren could climb like geckos, 767 00:41:57,377 --> 00:42:00,480 run like cheetahs... 768 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,447 [ Gunshot ] 769 00:42:02,448 --> 00:42:06,153 ...or see in infrared. 770 00:42:06,153 --> 00:42:08,988 "Sex is part of nature. 771 00:42:08,988 --> 00:42:11,892 I go along with nature." 772 00:42:11,892 --> 00:42:15,629 that's what Marilyn Monroe said. 773 00:42:15,629 --> 00:42:17,330 [ Chuckles ] 774 00:42:17,330 --> 00:42:20,199 Sex may always be part of nature, 775 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,705 but only for recreation, not necessarily for procreation. 776 00:42:24,705 --> 00:42:28,275 A world where babies are chemically crafted 777 00:42:28,275 --> 00:42:33,947 and carefully reared in labs may sound utterly alien, 778 00:42:33,947 --> 00:42:38,852 but parents will always do what's best for their children. 779 00:42:38,852 --> 00:42:42,756 That aspect of our nature will never change. 63406

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