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Freeman: Every single person
who has ever lived
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was created from the genes
of one man and one woman.
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But technology is on the brink
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of rewriting the rules
of procreation.
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We could soon make children from
two fathers or from two mothers.
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Babies could grow
outside the womb.
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We might even create
hybrid people --
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part human, part animal.
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Human reproduction,
unchanged for millions of years,
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is about to undergo
a revolution.
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Will sex become extinct?
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Space, time, life itself.
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The secrets of the cosmos
lie through the wormhole.
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Subtital By RA_One
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Sex is amazing.
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Why?
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Well, because without sex,
none of us would be here.
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We are all descendants
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of the very first human male
and female,
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the people the Bible calls
Adam and Eve.
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And for almost all
of human history,
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the way we have made babies
has not changed at all.
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But a brave new world
of human reproduction
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is just around the corner.
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New technology
and our evolving biology
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are about to rewrite
the future of sex
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and change the age-old roles
of men and women.
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When I was in school, I wanted
to try out for the track team,
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so I thought I'd practice
with a guaranteed win --
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against a girl.
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On your mark.
Get set.
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Go!
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Go, go, go, go, go!
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Well, to my surprise, she won --
by a lot.
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In fact, she went on
to become a olympic champion.
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Whoo!
Whoo-hoo!
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Men and women
have always competed
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in the age-old
battle of the sexes.
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What will happen to humanity
if nature picks a winner?
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For the past half billion years,
nearly all complex life
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has reproduced through sexual
recombination of their genes.
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Birds do it.
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Bees do it.
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Even kangaroos do it.
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But geneticist Jenny graves
thinks the days
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of humans doing it
to make offspring
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could be numbered.
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She's peering into our future
by looking at the sex genes
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of these distant cousins.
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Dear little thing.
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Absolutely gorgeous.
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And you can see
it's a little boy.
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Yes,
I certainly can.
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Because he's well-endowed.
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Well-endowed indeed.
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Kangaroos don't look
much like humans, but in fact,
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they have pretty much
the same set of genes --
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about, you know,
20,000 or so genes --
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doing the same jobs.
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Freeman: All living things
are built from genes
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that are made up of DNA.
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Those genes are coiled up into
clusters called chromosomes.
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We have 23 pairs of chromosomes.
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Gender of both humans
and kangaroos
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depends on just one pair.
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Girls have two "X" Chromosomes.
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Boys have one "X" And one "Y."
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we inherited this scheme
from a common ancestor.
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Kangaroos are much more like
the ancestral mammal,
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and they haven't changed
nearly as much,
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so they give us a window
on the past,
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and they really tell us a lot
about our own genome.
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Freeman: By looking at the
sex chromosomes of kangaroos,
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Jenny can see
how much our own have changed.
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She can also plot the future
of our sex chromosomes.
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And according to Jenny,
it's bad news.
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Human males,
like her grandson Felix,
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are on the road to extinction.
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[ Laughs ]
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All right.
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Well, I'm gonna build
a chromosome
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out of blocks
of genes.
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Felix, maybe you can hand me
some more blue blocks.
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Both men and women
carry an "X" Chromosome.
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In the microscopic world of DNA,
it's a skyscraper,
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a tower of around 1,000 genes.
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But the "Y" Chromosome,
exclusive to men,
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is more of a run-down shack.
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So, this is a female
with two "X" Chromosomes,
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one from the mother,
one from the father,
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and then
this is a male.
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He's only got
one "X" Chromosome,
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and he's got a much smaller
"Y" Chromosome.
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It's got
hardly any genes on it.
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All female eggs
contain a single "X" Chromosome.
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Of the billions of sperm cells a
man sends towards a woman's egg,
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half contain an "X," The other
half a single, puny "Y."
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when a sperm cell
with an "X" Chromosome
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gets to the egg first,
the result is a baby girl
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with one "X" From mom
and one "X" From dad.
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What happens is
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these two "X" Chromosomes get
together, and they swap bits.
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For instance, that bit there
swaps with that bit there,
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and then maybe
this bit swaps with that bit,
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and you end up with something
that looks like that.
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And this
is really important
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because it means
that the "X" Chromosomes
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can repair themselves.
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In women, any harmful genetic
mutations on the "X" Chromosome
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can be swapped out
with healthy genes
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before it gets passed
to the next generation.
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But men have no way
to repair their "Y" Chromosome.
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There's no second copy
to fall back on.
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This "Y" Chromosome
doesn't swap pieces at all,
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so it just stays
in a little bundle,
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and this is a bad thing
for the "Y" Chromosome
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because if there are mistakes
and errors and mutations,
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that's too bad.
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There's no way
of fixing them up.
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And eventually what happens
is you actually lose genes.
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And then
this little teeny-weeny "Y"
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is at great risk
of being lost altogether.
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And so, in maybe four
or five million years,
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there'll be nothing left.
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Freeman:
Without a "Y" Chromosome,
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men would become infertile.
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Would the extinction
of humanity follow?
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Evolutionary biologist
levi morran wants to know
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what happens when a species can
no longer sexually reproduce.
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He's working out the details
by working out.
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There are times when I'm
working on a specific project
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or something that's really
driving me forward,
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and running allows me
to really focus in
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on everything that
I need to be thinking about.
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Freeman:
Levi is chasing an answer
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to the most fundamental mystery
of sex --
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why do we
and so many other species do it?
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He thinks he can find the answer
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by closely observing sexual
activity under a microscope.
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These microscopic worms,
or nematodes,
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are known as c. Elegans.
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Their sex life
is incredibly simple.
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It's actually pretty sad.
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Sometimes the males
will basically take their tail,
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attach it to their head,
think that they are a female,
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and mate with themselves
for hours on end
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without realizing it.
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Freeman:
Males are simple,
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but their female counterparts
have more complex needs.
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Female c. Elegans
are not exactly female.
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They're hermaphrodites.
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They can reproduce
by coupling with a male,
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just like human females do,
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or they can reproduce
by impregnating their own eggs
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with their own sperm.
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Levi can control the sex drive
of nematode females
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by flicking a few switches
in their DNA.
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He can make them
always opt for sex
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or always reproduce
without males.
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To see
what a difference sex makes,
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levi subjects
these hermaphrodites
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to the hard forces
of natural selection
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by making them cross
an ocean...Of disease.
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Morran: If you look
at this petri dish here,
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what you can see is that
this red bacteria up here --
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it's highly virulent
to the nematodes.
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It's very likely to kill them.
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And they have to swim
through this bacteria
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to get
to their normal food source,
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which is at the bottom here.
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Freeman: Nematodes
that reproduce without sex
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endure the plague
for 30 generations
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but are not able
to develop a defense
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against their toxic invaders.
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Their ranks are decimated.
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Now, levi sends
another colony of worms
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across the valley of death.
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This time,
he's genetically engineered them
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to reproduce only through sex.
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Morran: We again
put them on this plate
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that has the bacterial parasite
and had them crawl across.
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See if they could survive
exposure to the parasite
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and then reproduce
in their normal environment.
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And if you look
at the screen here,
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what you see is a lot of them
survived that exposure.
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Freeman:
Levi's experiment shows
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that the sex allows a population
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to evolve better defenses
against diseases.
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He believes that over millions
of years of our evolution,
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sex is what has kept us
from being wiped out by disease.
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As levi knows
from his sport of running,
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it's all about staying ahead.
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Imagine that I'm a population,
and each step I take forward
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is a generation
in evolutionary time.
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Freeman:
Reproduction without sex
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is a lot like
running in a straight line.
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A species can get from "A"
To "B" Quickly and efficiently,
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but if you run
in a straight line,
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a predatory parasite can easily
pick up on your path.
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Sexual reproduction is like
following a zigzag path.
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It's slower,
but the mixing of genes
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constantly shifts
the species' evolutionary path,
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making it hard for a parasite
to latch on
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and giving a species
its best chance to survive.
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There are all kinds
of pathogen parasites out there
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that could potentially
track our populations,
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and so if we have
genetic diversity,
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then it allows a population the
potential to adapt and change
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with those parasites.
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Freeman: Sex has been vital
to our survival.
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But sex is bound to change.
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It can happen in a million years
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if the "Y" Chromosome
disappears,
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or it could happen
within the next decade.
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This stem-cell researcher
may have a way
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to let any two people,
regardless of their gender,
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make a baby.
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How do you make a baby?
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Well,
you need to fertilize an egg,
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a process that always used to
start with boy meets girl.
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But for the last 30 years,
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doctors have also been able to
fertilize an egg in a test tube.
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But science is about to offer
a radically new way
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to make people.
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You start with an egg from a man
or a sperm cell from a woman.
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This cell may change
the future of human sex.
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It's a cell
from ordinary human skin.
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But fertility expert
Renee reijo pera
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of Stanford university
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is trying to transform it
into a cell
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that could create a new human.
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For most of human history,
we've thought
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that as we develop,
we have the cells that we have.
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If we have skin cells, they're
going to make more skin cells.
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In 2007,
there was a major breakthrough.
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We can take skin cells,
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and we can move them back
to the beginning of life --
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the embryonic state.
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Freeman: These skin cells
are bioengineered
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to become embryonic stem cells,
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cells that exist naturally
in a human embryo.
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They have the power
to turn into any type of cell
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in the human body --
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heart muscle, neurons,
even lung cells.
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Other researchers
are trying to use them
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to repair damaged organs.
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But Renee
has a different plan --
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to sculpt cell types
our bodies normally could not.
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So, stem cells
are a lot like Clay.
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They need
to be given instructions
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in what cell type
they will differentiate to.
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They can become any
of 216 different cell types.
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Clay is similar in that
if a sculptor takes the Clay,
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they can actually
direct the Clay
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into any structure
that you want.
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A stem cell takes directions
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to become a cell
with a unique job
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from a myriad of proteins
and other organic chemicals.
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Renee and her team wanted
to make sperm and egg cells,
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so they set to find the specific
chemical instructions
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that would make stem cells
develop down that route.
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Pera: To make a sperm cell
from stem cells,
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what we've done is
we've taken skin cells from men,
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and we've reprogrammed them
to embryonic cells
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and then used bone proteins
to direct the stem cells
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down the sperm-cell lineage,
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kind of like
starting with a ball of Clay.
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We start
with a small ball of Clay,
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and we try to get the cells to
differentiate along a lineage.
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Freeman: Renee is halfway
through the process
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of activating the instructions
inside the "Y" Chromosome
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of an infertile man's stem cell
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so that she can craft from it
a healthy, potent sperm cell.
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But since males
have an "X" Chromosome,
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Renee believes
a similar procedure
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could take
a male patient's stem cell
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and turn it into an egg.
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Pera:
It is possible that someday,
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same-sex couples
could have their own children,
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especially if the couple
is comprised of two men
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because then one of the men
could provide the egg
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and the other the sperm.
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Freeman:
Renee believes that eventually,
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she could make sperm cells
from a woman's stem cell.
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But it's a challenge
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because it requires importing
sperm-making instructions
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from the "Y" Chromosome
of a man.
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It's a little harder
to imagine same-sex couples
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that are comprised of two women
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being able to have
their own children at this time
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just because
of the number of genes
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that are on the "Y" Chromosome
that are required to make sperm,
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probably around 50 or 100.
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It's not impossible,
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but it's just much less likely
in the next 10 years or so.
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Freeman: Thanks to the work
of Renee and her colleagues,
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the age-old biology
of sexual reproduction
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is about to undergo
a momentous change.
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With stem-cell reproduction,
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any two human beings
could conceive a child
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regardless of their gender
or age.
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But not everyone
thinks it's a good idea.
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I'm always surprised
how many people --
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I mean,
I get bad calls about that.
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People -- they're so worried
about the world being taken over
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by people that are now
reproducing in a dish.
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I think that our technology
will be wonderful
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for infertile couples,
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but I think couples
that are well-able
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to have children naturally
will continue to do so.
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Freeman:
Let's say a female sperm
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and a male egg
could be created in a lab.
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Couples in any combination of
genders could conceive a child.
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But the fetus would still need
to spend nine months
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inside a woman --
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unless we could grow our young
in an artificial womb.
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We all began our lives in the
same place -- a woman's womb.
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It was nine months of blissful
ignorance for most of us
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but not for our mothers.
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What if women didn't have to
carry the burden of pregnancy?
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A radical shift in reproduction
is already happening.
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Marine biologist Nick otway
has just brought
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living creatures into the world
in an completely new way.
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We've done something
that was rather strange,
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rather abnormal,
and challenging, too,
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to think about what are
the implications in the future.
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Freeman:
Nick has built a machine
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that gives birth
to living sharks.
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Otway:
We're looking at a gray box,
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which is actually
an artificial uterus.
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We shorten it to an a.U.,
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and we developed this --
designed it --
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to actually take embryos out
of a particular species of shark
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and see if we can
continue their development
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in an artificial environment.
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Freeman: Nick built his a.U. --
His mechanical womb --
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to restore the population
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of the critically endangered
grey nurse shark.
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It was a mission that came
straight from the top levels
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of the Australian government.
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Otway: One minister
actually challenged me
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to come up
with a breeding program.
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He said,
"Okay, come back in six weeks,
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and don't tell me
you can't do it."
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Freeman: Human beings
have just about mastered
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keeping adult fish alive
outside of their natural habitat
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by engineering aquariums.
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Chemicals are balanced,
ph levels kept in check,
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waste products cleaned out, and
nutrients delivered on schedule.
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But keeping fish alive
that haven't been born yet
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is a whole new challenge.
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Otway: The a.U. Is a small aquarium,
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and so you got to create
the environment for the embryos.
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They're delicate.
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They have specific requirements,
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and the mother is not
providing that -- you are.
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Freeman:
Unlike an adult fish,
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the needs
of delicate shark embryos
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drastically change as they grow.
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Otway: Sharks use
a complex uterine fluid
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early on in development
and subsequent --
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three months into development,
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they switch
to a seawater environment,
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which mum
pumps in the seawater.
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So we really do need to
understand that complex fluid --
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the composition
and how we need to maintain it
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in an artificial environment,
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and that's something
that's not been done before.
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Freeman: Nick programmed
his artificial uterus
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to change its chemistry
from bodily fluid to seawater
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in line with a mother shark's
natural rhythm.
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Experimenting with the severely
endangered grey nurse shark
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was too risky,
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so Nick calibrated the first run
of his artificial womb
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for a more common species --
the wobbegong shark.
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Otway: Wobbegong sharks
are easily handled in captivity
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and easily maintained
in captivity.
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We already knew that they had
actually bred in captivity.
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All those things meant
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that we could actually have
a smaller animal
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that we could use
as a model species,
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and, of course,
it wasn't critically endangered.
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Freeman:
To grow baby wobbegongs,
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Nick harvested the growing
embryos from a pregnant female
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and transferred them
to his artificial womb.
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He kept constant watch
over the tiny unborn pups,
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precisely managing the
conditions to keep them alive.
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Otway: I think you become
attached to these guys.
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They're sort of animals
that you've taken away from mum,
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and you hope
that nothing detrimental occurs.
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Freeman: The procedure
was a resounding success.
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After 9 weeks,
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Nick's lab gave birth to
14 perfectly formed shark pups.
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Nick believes that what
is possible for sharks today
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is possible for humans tomorrow.
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It's all a matter of knowing
how and when a mother's womb
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changes
its chemical composition.
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[ Crying ]
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Otway: I think technology
has come leaps and bounds
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in just a few years,
and around the corner,
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we could be looking
at some major changes.
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I could potentially see
preterm infants
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possibly going back further
in the preterm,
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but even then, I think
there's still ethical questions
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one has to ask about it.
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Freeman: Would a baby
grown in a laboratory
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be the same as an infant
nurtured inside a woman?
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Would society accept
these children as equals
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to those born
from a natural womb?
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Only time will answer
the many questions
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of growing our young
outside a woman's uterus.
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We may choose to face these
questions sooner than you think.
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An artificial human uterus
could make miscarriages,
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prenatal complications,
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and death in childbirth
horrors of the past.
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[ Baby coos ]
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When babies aren't
just conceived in a test tube
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but born in one,
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and when any combination
of people can create a child,
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what will be the meaning
of the word "Family?"
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the family
is the backbone of our society.
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But what is a family?
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Does it start
with a man and a woman,
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or, as some cultures say, a man
and many women, or two women?
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When technology transforms
how children are born
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and who their parents can be,
what will our society look like?
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Perhaps we can find a clue
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in the societies
of our closest animal relatives.
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Frans de waal
has dedicated his career
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to studying the societies
of the great apes.
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[ Monkey screeches ]
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In the wild, they must fight
to survive and often die trying.
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Chimpanzees kill each other
over territory.
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Wild chimpanzees
are very competitive,
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especially over rank
among males --
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who's gonna be
the dominant male.
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Freeman: What is true for chimps
is often true for us.
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Oh, no.
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[ Sighs ] Shoot.
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Freeman:
Frans is trying to understand
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what shapes the social roles
of male and female primates.
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De waal: Chimpanzee society
is quite different
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in that they have no
family structure like humans do,
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like male, female offspring.
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It's usually just the females
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who have the offspring
and care for them.
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Freeman: We share 98.5%
of our genome with chimps.
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But frans knows that chimps are
not our only close relatives.
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De waal:
I was interested in chimpanzees,
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and I worked with them over many
years, and then I saw bonobos.
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And people called them
pygmy chimps at the time,
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and they just considered them
a small kind of chimps,
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and I saw immediately that
they were totally different --
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in their behavior,
in their appearance.
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And so I couldn't believe
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that people had sort of
lumped them together,
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and I wanted to know more
about them.
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Freeman:
Just like chimps,
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bonobos share 98.5%
of their genes with humans.
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But as frans observed them,
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he discovered their society was
utterly different from chimps.
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Female bonobos are collectively
dominant over males.
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They're not
individually dominant
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because they are smaller,
but as a group,
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the females dominate the males.
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[ Monkeys screeching ]
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Freeman:
Even though bonobo males
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are physically larger
and stronger than females,
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the females form alliances
that keep the peace.
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Violence is rare,
killing even more rare.
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Females eat first
and share food with the males.
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And if any social crisis erupts,
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the bonobos have a special way
of relieving the stress.
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De waal: Bonobos have sex
almost all the time.
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Females have sex with females.
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Males have sex with males.
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There is, of course, a lot
of female-male sex going on.
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And so, there's a lot more sex
going on
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in the bonobo society
than in the chimpanzee society.
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Sex serves as bonding
between females,
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preventing conflict,
reconciling after conflicts.
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And so, as a result,
the bonobos are known
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as sort of the hippies
of the primate world,
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like "Make love, not war"
Kind of primates.
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Freeman: Sex is the female
bonobos' tool of choice
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for building alliances.
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De waal: The females
will have some sexual relations
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and do some bonding,
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and they will become dominant
over the male.
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Freeman: Bonobos and chimps are
genetically almost identical,
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and yet their societies
are completely different.
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Frans believes that is because
the role of males and females
495
00:27:29,399 --> 00:27:34,505
are dictated not by genes but by
a species' native environment.
496
00:27:34,505 --> 00:27:37,674
De waal:
Bonobos live in a richer forest
497
00:27:37,674 --> 00:27:39,042
where there's more resources
around.
498
00:27:39,042 --> 00:27:41,879
In addition, they don't have
competition from gorillas
499
00:27:41,879 --> 00:27:43,880
who eat
a lot of ground vegetation,
500
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,550
and so bonobos seem to have
an easier time in their ecology
501
00:27:47,550 --> 00:27:49,686
than the chimpanzees,
502
00:27:49,686 --> 00:27:51,387
and that permits females
to have
503
00:27:51,387 --> 00:27:52,722
these effective coalitions
504
00:27:52,722 --> 00:27:55,191
because a chimpanzee female
is basically on her own
505
00:27:55,191 --> 00:27:57,093
if she meets a male
most of the time.
506
00:27:57,093 --> 00:28:00,230
And so the bonobos
are a more cohesive society.
507
00:28:00,230 --> 00:28:03,733
Freeman: So, what can bonobos
and chimps tell us
508
00:28:03,734 --> 00:28:06,036
about the roles of men and women
509
00:28:06,036 --> 00:28:08,338
and how they might change
in the future?
510
00:28:08,438 --> 00:28:10,608
In the past few centuries,
511
00:28:10,608 --> 00:28:14,011
human ecology
has dramatically changed.
512
00:28:14,011 --> 00:28:16,781
Most people
now have food and shelter,
513
00:28:16,781 --> 00:28:19,950
like the bonobos do
in their natural habitat,
514
00:28:19,950 --> 00:28:26,122
and most of us have easy access
to sex when we choose to.
515
00:28:26,122 --> 00:28:27,124
Hmm.
516
00:28:27,124 --> 00:28:29,626
Are we headed for a society
517
00:28:29,626 --> 00:28:33,363
that's less like the warring
and male-dominated chimps
518
00:28:33,363 --> 00:28:37,501
and more like the free-loving
and egalitarian bonobos...
519
00:28:37,501 --> 00:28:39,403
[ Growling ]
520
00:28:39,403 --> 00:28:43,006
...a society where children
are raised by communities,
521
00:28:43,006 --> 00:28:45,809
and when conflicts occur,
522
00:28:45,809 --> 00:28:48,279
they are resolved
with free-spirited sex?
523
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,182
De waal: Well, I think
the abundance of food supply
524
00:28:52,182 --> 00:28:53,216
makes things easier,
525
00:28:53,216 --> 00:28:55,019
but it doesn't change,
necessarily,
526
00:28:55,019 --> 00:28:56,420
how we respond to each other
527
00:28:56,420 --> 00:28:58,656
and how adults
respond to children
528
00:28:58,656 --> 00:29:01,057
or how adults
respond to each other.
529
00:29:01,057 --> 00:29:03,093
Freeman:
Frans believes that,
530
00:29:03,093 --> 00:29:07,030
although our environment
does shape our behavior,
531
00:29:07,030 --> 00:29:09,967
it takes many,
many generations to do so.
532
00:29:09,967 --> 00:29:12,502
The behavior
of men and women today
533
00:29:12,502 --> 00:29:15,439
harks back
to the environment we lived in
534
00:29:15,439 --> 00:29:20,944
tens of thousands of years ago,
when our species first evolved.
535
00:29:20,944 --> 00:29:24,214
De waal: Whereas chimpanzees
and bonobos live in the forest,
536
00:29:24,214 --> 00:29:26,883
humans left the forest
and entered the Savannah.
537
00:29:26,883 --> 00:29:29,119
The Savannah
is a very dangerous place
538
00:29:29,119 --> 00:29:31,088
because you cannot
easily escape.
539
00:29:31,088 --> 00:29:33,023
There's big lions there
and hyenas,
540
00:29:33,023 --> 00:29:36,360
and in the old days, they were
even bigger than they are now,
541
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,897
and so humans needed to have
a different kind of society.
542
00:29:39,897 --> 00:29:43,166
The males got involved
in protecting offspring.
543
00:29:43,166 --> 00:29:47,037
As a result, you get pair
bonding between male and female,
544
00:29:47,037 --> 00:29:48,973
so you get a nuclear family,
545
00:29:48,973 --> 00:29:51,008
and that's very different
from the chimpanzee
546
00:29:51,008 --> 00:29:53,277
or the bonobo, where the males
are barely involved.
547
00:29:53,277 --> 00:29:56,747
Freeman:
Unlike the great apes,
548
00:29:56,747 --> 00:30:00,717
who assigned all child-rearing
to females,
549
00:30:00,717 --> 00:30:03,653
human beings usually pair up
to raise young.
550
00:30:03,654 --> 00:30:07,124
This behavior is deeply rooted
in our brain chemistry.
551
00:30:07,124 --> 00:30:08,492
[ Growling ]
552
00:30:10,126 --> 00:30:14,965
Neuroscientists have discovered
that hormones, like oxytocin,
553
00:30:14,965 --> 00:30:17,534
are released inside the brain
when humans interact
554
00:30:17,534 --> 00:30:18,901
with their bonded partner.
555
00:30:18,902 --> 00:30:25,642
These hormones urge us
to trust each other and bond.
556
00:30:25,642 --> 00:30:27,945
And so, I think
this pair-bonding framework
557
00:30:27,945 --> 00:30:30,080
of the human species
is very important,
558
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,182
and it's basically
what sets us apart.
559
00:30:32,182 --> 00:30:36,386
Frans believes that this drive
to form our families
560
00:30:36,386 --> 00:30:40,123
around a strong bond
between two individuals
561
00:30:40,123 --> 00:30:45,128
will not be altered
for thousands of years to come.
562
00:30:45,128 --> 00:30:47,831
Technology may change
our food supply,
563
00:30:47,831 --> 00:30:51,134
who's capable of reproduction,
and how their young are born,
564
00:30:51,134 --> 00:30:55,005
but frans predicts most of us
will choose to reproduce
565
00:30:55,005 --> 00:30:58,641
not through a community
but rather with a partner.
566
00:30:58,642 --> 00:31:03,313
After all,
old habits are hard to break.
567
00:31:04,447 --> 00:31:08,218
But sexual reproduction
between only two people
568
00:31:08,218 --> 00:31:10,387
may eventually
be deemed inferior.
569
00:31:10,387 --> 00:31:15,359
This doctor has found a way
to make children healthier
570
00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:19,163
by giving them
three genetic parents.
571
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,137
Sex is the greatest
creative force on the planet.
572
00:31:25,137 --> 00:31:27,606
It mixes the DNA of two people
573
00:31:27,606 --> 00:31:32,177
into novel and sometimes
quite remarkable combinations.
574
00:31:32,178 --> 00:31:37,283
Without sex, there would be no
Michelangelo, no Michael Jordan.
575
00:31:37,283 --> 00:31:39,418
The more you jumble up DNA,
576
00:31:39,419 --> 00:31:42,822
the more creative possibilities
there are.
577
00:31:42,822 --> 00:31:44,757
So wouldn't it be better
578
00:31:44,757 --> 00:31:47,961
if we could have
more than two parents?
579
00:31:51,297 --> 00:31:55,901
Doug turnbull of newcastle
university is a medical rebel.
580
00:31:55,901 --> 00:31:58,804
His team
has invented a procedure
581
00:31:58,804 --> 00:32:02,708
that can only be performed
by breaking the law.
582
00:32:02,708 --> 00:32:05,911
Turnbull:
I think what we're doing --
583
00:32:05,911 --> 00:32:07,980
and I think we've got to
keep this into perspective --
584
00:32:07,980 --> 00:32:11,784
is that we're trying
to prevent serious disease.
585
00:32:11,784 --> 00:32:14,187
I don't believe
that it's right and proper
586
00:32:14,187 --> 00:32:16,321
to be doing
these sort of techniques
587
00:32:16,322 --> 00:32:19,158
unless we're trying
to prevent serious disease,
588
00:32:19,158 --> 00:32:23,696
and I think that most scientists
would feel exactly the same way.
589
00:32:23,696 --> 00:32:27,800
Freeman: Doug's radical idea
could cure a number of diseases
590
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,270
that occur when our cells
can't get enough power.
591
00:32:31,270 --> 00:32:35,775
Every cell in our body
contains mitochondria.
592
00:32:35,775 --> 00:32:39,278
They provide power
by taking material
593
00:32:39,278 --> 00:32:44,083
from the foods we eat and
converting it to organic fuel.
594
00:32:44,083 --> 00:32:48,287
But when mitochondria
aren't working properly,
595
00:32:48,287 --> 00:32:51,591
our cells can barely function.
596
00:32:51,591 --> 00:32:53,125
Turnbull:
That leads to the diseases
597
00:32:53,125 --> 00:32:56,495
where it affects the central
nervous system, the heart.
598
00:32:56,495 --> 00:32:59,965
They can produce epilepsy,
strokes, blindness,
599
00:32:59,965 --> 00:33:02,936
deafness, dementia.
600
00:33:04,503 --> 00:33:08,875
Freeman: Mitochondria have
their own separate DNA,
601
00:33:08,875 --> 00:33:13,111
and a child inherits
all his or her mitochondria
602
00:33:13,111 --> 00:33:16,215
from the mother's
fertilized egg.
603
00:33:16,215 --> 00:33:20,820
But Doug has discovered
how to eliminate the disease.
604
00:33:20,820 --> 00:33:24,023
He plans to transplant
the embryo's nucleus,
605
00:33:24,023 --> 00:33:27,493
where the majority
of the child's DNA is stored,
606
00:33:27,493 --> 00:33:32,364
into a new cell
with healthy mitochondria.
607
00:33:32,364 --> 00:33:33,966
While the law prevents him
608
00:33:33,966 --> 00:33:36,769
from performing
the full procedure in humans,
609
00:33:36,769 --> 00:33:41,507
he often does similar work
in his garden.
610
00:33:41,507 --> 00:33:43,643
Turnbull:
If we've got bad soil,
611
00:33:43,643 --> 00:33:46,012
then a plant
just simply won't grow.
612
00:33:46,012 --> 00:33:49,581
If you've got an egg which has
got unhealthy mitochondria,
613
00:33:49,582 --> 00:33:53,419
then what it means is then that
won't grow into a normal child.
614
00:33:53,419 --> 00:33:55,721
It won't grow
into a normal adult.
615
00:33:55,721 --> 00:33:58,456
But if you've managed
to transfer the material
616
00:33:58,456 --> 00:34:01,326
from an egg which has got
unhealthy mitochondria
617
00:34:01,327 --> 00:34:03,963
into one which has got
healthy mitochondria,
618
00:34:03,963 --> 00:34:07,299
then that should allow a child
to flourish,
619
00:34:07,498 --> 00:34:09,033
and that's the principle.
620
00:34:09,034 --> 00:34:12,071
We really want to move
the nuclear genetic material
621
00:34:12,071 --> 00:34:14,540
from something
which is unhealthy
622
00:34:14,540 --> 00:34:17,208
into a situation
where it's healthy.
623
00:34:17,208 --> 00:34:20,111
Freeman: Transplanting a seed
from a pot of bad soil
624
00:34:20,112 --> 00:34:22,348
to a pot of healthy soil
is one thing.
625
00:34:22,348 --> 00:34:25,650
Transferring the nucleus
of a human embryo cell
626
00:34:25,650 --> 00:34:30,089
into a donor cell requires
the utmost care and precision.
627
00:34:30,089 --> 00:34:33,625
If anything goes wrong,
the infant that develops
628
00:34:33,625 --> 00:34:37,228
from that embryo
could have severe birth defects.
629
00:34:37,228 --> 00:34:41,600
But Doug and his colleagues at
the newcastle fertility clinic
630
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,969
are mastering the process
631
00:34:43,969 --> 00:34:48,341
by performing legally permitted
practice runs.
632
00:34:48,341 --> 00:34:52,245
Turnbull: So, the eggs
are collected from women
633
00:34:52,245 --> 00:34:54,113
who are donating their eggs
for research.
634
00:34:54,113 --> 00:34:57,750
These eggs undergo
an I.V.F. Procedure --
635
00:34:57,750 --> 00:34:59,786
in vitro fertilization.
636
00:34:59,786 --> 00:35:03,155
Freeman:
Doug's team takes a donated egg
637
00:35:03,155 --> 00:35:05,157
and removes its nucleus,
638
00:35:05,157 --> 00:35:09,295
creating an empty vessel
with healthy mitochondria.
639
00:35:09,295 --> 00:35:13,632
They then transplant the nucleus
of the defective cell
640
00:35:13,632 --> 00:35:15,500
into the healthy vessel.
641
00:35:15,500 --> 00:35:17,136
The law prevents them
642
00:35:17,136 --> 00:35:20,473
from putting this egg
back inside a mother.
643
00:35:20,473 --> 00:35:21,807
But if they did,
644
00:35:21,807 --> 00:35:26,678
that child would be
unlike any other on earth.
645
00:35:26,678 --> 00:35:31,116
She or he would have
23,000 nuclear genes
646
00:35:31,117 --> 00:35:32,952
from two parents
647
00:35:32,952 --> 00:35:37,757
and 13 mitochondrial genes
from someone else.
648
00:35:37,757 --> 00:35:43,596
Genetically speaking, the child
would have three parents.
649
00:35:43,596 --> 00:35:45,498
Many of Doug's opponents argue
650
00:35:45,498 --> 00:35:48,834
that giving a child
any amount of third-party genes,
651
00:35:48,834 --> 00:35:51,102
on matter
what the medical value,
652
00:35:51,103 --> 00:35:52,638
is crossing a line.
653
00:35:52,638 --> 00:35:55,240
Turnbull:
It's 23,000 versus 13,
654
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:58,410
so you can see
it is a tiny contribution.
655
00:35:58,410 --> 00:36:00,678
And if it's preventing disease,
656
00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:05,350
surely that's a good thing
rather than a bad thing.
657
00:36:05,350 --> 00:36:07,319
But for some people,
that's unacceptable.
658
00:36:07,319 --> 00:36:10,422
Freeman: Doug and his team
are now involved
659
00:36:10,422 --> 00:36:12,158
in a public consultation
660
00:36:12,158 --> 00:36:15,294
to change
the u.K. Government's law.
661
00:36:15,294 --> 00:36:19,131
If they are permitted
to move forward,
662
00:36:19,131 --> 00:36:23,368
they believe they can eradicate
mitochondrial disease.
663
00:36:23,368 --> 00:36:26,605
It is something
which is controversial,
664
00:36:26,605 --> 00:36:30,042
and it will be against
some people's religious views,
665
00:36:30,042 --> 00:36:31,442
for example.
666
00:36:31,443 --> 00:36:33,979
I think everybody should be
allowed to have their views,
667
00:36:33,979 --> 00:36:36,249
but I personally
have a different view
668
00:36:36,249 --> 00:36:38,384
because I look after
these patients,
669
00:36:38,384 --> 00:36:40,752
and I see
just what a devastating effect
670
00:36:40,752 --> 00:36:42,554
it has on the family.
671
00:36:42,554 --> 00:36:46,092
Freeman: Doug's procedure
could also be the beginning
672
00:36:46,092 --> 00:36:48,260
of a new class of medicine,
673
00:36:48,260 --> 00:36:52,265
one where devastating
genetic diseases are subdued
674
00:36:52,265 --> 00:36:57,102
by giving children genes from
any number of third parties.
675
00:36:57,102 --> 00:37:00,138
Our children may someday
have one or two parents
676
00:37:00,139 --> 00:37:06,645
that raise them and many more
parents that made them.
677
00:37:06,645 --> 00:37:08,213
But why stop there?
678
00:37:08,213 --> 00:37:11,717
Why not make children healthier
and stronger
679
00:37:11,717 --> 00:37:14,920
using the best genes
nature has to offer
680
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,690
regardless of which species
they come from?
681
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:26,739
The sphinx,
the mermaid, spider-man.
682
00:37:26,740 --> 00:37:30,009
Hybrid creatures
are the stuff of legend --
683
00:37:30,009 --> 00:37:31,911
the brainpower of a human
684
00:37:31,911 --> 00:37:35,916
married to the physical prowess
of an animal.
685
00:37:35,916 --> 00:37:40,955
But such creatures may not
remain mythical for much longer.
686
00:37:44,924 --> 00:37:47,726
Randy Lewis is a pioneer.
687
00:37:47,727 --> 00:37:48,929
[ Goat bleats ]
688
00:37:48,929 --> 00:37:53,266
On this remote farm
in upstate Utah,
689
00:37:53,266 --> 00:37:56,503
he's pushing
scientific boundaries
690
00:37:56,503 --> 00:38:00,107
and creating a new form
of agriculture.
691
00:38:00,107 --> 00:38:04,277
But there are those
who say he's playing God.
692
00:38:04,278 --> 00:38:05,612
Well,
I got interested in chemistry
693
00:38:05,612 --> 00:38:06,880
when I was in high school,
694
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,315
when a high school teacher
that I had --
695
00:38:08,315 --> 00:38:11,217
he allowed us to do some
experiments on the side.
696
00:38:11,217 --> 00:38:14,321
So, we were mixing some
different kinds of chemicals
697
00:38:14,321 --> 00:38:18,658
and sort of generated a cloud
of steam and smoke
698
00:38:18,658 --> 00:38:20,327
that went clear to the ceiling.
699
00:38:20,327 --> 00:38:23,297
He just had a very perplexed
look on his face and said,
700
00:38:23,297 --> 00:38:25,232
"We better
get the windows open,"
701
00:38:25,232 --> 00:38:27,067
and really never said
another word about it.
702
00:38:27,067 --> 00:38:29,902
Freeman:
Randy got away with it,
703
00:38:29,903 --> 00:38:33,807
and today, he embraces
the same fearless spirit.
704
00:38:33,807 --> 00:38:39,747
His latest work is boldly mixing
diverse genetic chemicals,
705
00:38:39,747 --> 00:38:43,918
starting with the DNA
of this creature.
706
00:38:45,585 --> 00:38:48,154
Lewis: So, this is
a golden orb-weaving spider.
707
00:38:48,154 --> 00:38:50,123
As you can see,
she's very docile.
708
00:38:50,124 --> 00:38:52,192
The dragline silk,
which is the silk
709
00:38:52,192 --> 00:38:54,293
that you can sort of see
waving up in the air
710
00:38:54,294 --> 00:38:57,397
that she drags along
behind herself as her lifeline,
711
00:38:57,397 --> 00:39:00,935
is actually stronger than kevlar
and more elastic than nylon.
712
00:39:02,936 --> 00:39:06,106
Freeman: The immense strength
and lightweight nature
713
00:39:06,106 --> 00:39:09,610
of spider silk
make it a miracle material.
714
00:39:09,610 --> 00:39:14,514
Its industrial applications
are almost endless.
715
00:39:14,514 --> 00:39:17,918
But to date,
no farmer has ever built a ranch
716
00:39:17,918 --> 00:39:21,588
with millions of spiders
producing lucrative silk.
717
00:39:22,556 --> 00:39:24,456
Lewis:
So, there are two real problems
718
00:39:24,457 --> 00:39:25,726
in trying to farm spiders.
719
00:39:25,726 --> 00:39:26,893
First is they're territorial,
720
00:39:26,893 --> 00:39:28,395
and second,
they're cannibalistic.
721
00:39:28,395 --> 00:39:29,862
So, when you put
a bunch of them together,
722
00:39:29,863 --> 00:39:31,565
what happens is they just start
killing each other.
723
00:39:35,502 --> 00:39:38,404
Freeman:
But ever the chemical tinkerer,
724
00:39:38,405 --> 00:39:42,509
Randy realized he didn't need
spiders to produce spider silk.
725
00:39:42,509 --> 00:39:45,411
All he needed
were the genetic chemicals
726
00:39:45,412 --> 00:39:48,482
that give spiders
their web-making ability.
727
00:39:48,482 --> 00:39:51,585
Lewis: What we've done
is identify the genes
728
00:39:51,585 --> 00:39:54,654
that make up
each of the different proteins
729
00:39:54,654 --> 00:39:57,623
for the six different silks
that the spider makes,
730
00:39:57,624 --> 00:40:00,527
and we've been able
to take those and clone them,
731
00:40:00,527 --> 00:40:03,830
and then we can simply transfer
them to another organism.
732
00:40:03,830 --> 00:40:07,333
[ Goat bleats ]
733
00:40:07,334 --> 00:40:10,671
Freeman: Randy's lab
transfers these spider genes
734
00:40:10,671 --> 00:40:14,173
into the DNA
of fertilized goat eggs.
735
00:40:14,173 --> 00:40:16,242
The goats grow to term
736
00:40:16,242 --> 00:40:21,014
and are born with all the genes
that a goat should have,
737
00:40:21,014 --> 00:40:23,316
plus a little something extra.
738
00:40:23,316 --> 00:40:27,954
We've spliced a spider-silk gene
into the genome of the goat,
739
00:40:27,954 --> 00:40:30,590
and we've put it in
in a situation
740
00:40:30,590 --> 00:40:32,959
where the only time that
that gene is used
741
00:40:32,959 --> 00:40:35,295
to make protein is when
the goat's producing milk.
742
00:40:37,531 --> 00:40:40,233
Freeman:
Randy milks his spider goats
743
00:40:40,233 --> 00:40:42,970
and takes their milk
back to his lab,
744
00:40:42,970 --> 00:40:45,706
where it is processed
and filtered.
745
00:40:47,374 --> 00:40:50,777
And from one milking alone,
746
00:40:50,777 --> 00:40:56,249
Randy yields about 35 Miles
of spider-goat silk.
747
00:40:56,249 --> 00:41:01,254
His work could lead
to a new industrial revolution
748
00:41:01,254 --> 00:41:03,323
where groundbreaking
biological materials
749
00:41:03,323 --> 00:41:09,129
are produced by animals with
genes from different species.
750
00:41:09,129 --> 00:41:11,298
The DNA is the same
in all organisms,
751
00:41:11,298 --> 00:41:14,334
so, if you take a piece of DNA
from any other organism,
752
00:41:14,334 --> 00:41:17,003
in general, if you put it
in the right context,
753
00:41:17,003 --> 00:41:18,338
it's gonna be produced.
754
00:41:19,272 --> 00:41:22,176
Freeman: Randy's work
is also proof of the concept
755
00:41:22,176 --> 00:41:25,878
that animal genes
could be spliced into human DNA.
756
00:41:27,814 --> 00:41:30,784
I think that one
could imagine a situation
757
00:41:30,784 --> 00:41:32,753
where you could take
the spider-silk gene
758
00:41:32,753 --> 00:41:34,587
and put it under
some kind of control
759
00:41:34,587 --> 00:41:36,022
where a human could produce it.
760
00:41:36,022 --> 00:41:39,058
Freeman:
These breakthroughs could lead
761
00:41:39,059 --> 00:41:42,295
to a remarkable new evolution
of humanity.
762
00:41:42,295 --> 00:41:45,032
Today,
we give our offspring the gifts
763
00:41:45,032 --> 00:41:47,534
of our best genetic traits,
764
00:41:47,534 --> 00:41:50,436
and tomorrow,
we could give them the very best
765
00:41:50,437 --> 00:41:52,505
of everything
nature has to offer.
766
00:41:52,505 --> 00:41:57,377
Our grandchildren
could climb like geckos,
767
00:41:57,377 --> 00:42:00,480
run like cheetahs...
768
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,447
[ Gunshot ]
769
00:42:02,448 --> 00:42:06,153
...or see in infrared.
770
00:42:06,153 --> 00:42:08,988
"Sex is part of nature.
771
00:42:08,988 --> 00:42:11,892
I go along with nature."
772
00:42:11,892 --> 00:42:15,629
that's what Marilyn Monroe said.
773
00:42:15,629 --> 00:42:17,330
[ Chuckles ]
774
00:42:17,330 --> 00:42:20,199
Sex may always be
part of nature,
775
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,705
but only for recreation,
not necessarily for procreation.
776
00:42:24,705 --> 00:42:28,275
A world where babies
are chemically crafted
777
00:42:28,275 --> 00:42:33,947
and carefully reared in labs
may sound utterly alien,
778
00:42:33,947 --> 00:42:38,852
but parents will always do
what's best for their children.
779
00:42:38,852 --> 00:42:42,756
That aspect of our nature
will never change.
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