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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,659 --> 00:00:07,317 May 1, 2011, 2 00:00:07,352 --> 00:00:11,528 Osama Bin Laden, the mastermind of the 9/11 attack on America, 3 00:00:11,563 --> 00:00:16,430 is at last within the sights of United States special forces. 4 00:00:18,397 --> 00:00:22,298 There was a real sense of deep anxiety in the room. 5 00:00:22,332 --> 00:00:23,782 It was totally silent. 6 00:00:23,816 --> 00:00:26,716 The fears about what could possibly go wrong, 7 00:00:26,750 --> 00:00:29,236 suddenly all of those fears are coming true. 8 00:00:34,482 --> 00:00:36,243 As Bin Laden's terror attacks 9 00:00:36,277 --> 00:00:38,279 spiral across the world, 10 00:00:38,314 --> 00:00:42,283 a superpower struggles for years to find and eliminate 11 00:00:42,318 --> 00:00:44,768 the world's most wanted man. 12 00:00:48,738 --> 00:00:50,912 The world's only remaining superpower 13 00:00:50,947 --> 00:00:53,950 didn't have the ability to get one guy. 14 00:00:56,504 --> 00:00:58,851 Now, through the memories of the people 15 00:00:58,886 --> 00:01:01,440 who led the mission to get Bin Laden, 16 00:01:01,475 --> 00:01:04,133 this film tells the inside story 17 00:01:04,167 --> 00:01:08,378 of the most intensive manhunt in history. 18 00:01:08,413 --> 00:01:11,726 "Find Bin Laden, kill him, cut off his head, 19 00:01:11,761 --> 00:01:14,315 and I'm going to take it down and show the president." 20 00:01:14,350 --> 00:01:17,456 It's a story of presidential frustrations 21 00:01:17,491 --> 00:01:19,631 and missed opportunities. 22 00:01:19,665 --> 00:01:21,357 I want justice. 23 00:01:21,391 --> 00:01:23,566 There's an old poster out west, as I recall, 24 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,603 that said, "wanted dead or alive!" 25 00:01:26,638 --> 00:01:27,811 The president got to the point 26 00:01:27,846 --> 00:01:29,675 where at every single intelligence briefing, 27 00:01:29,710 --> 00:01:31,608 the first question was, 28 00:01:31,643 --> 00:01:34,784 where is Bin Laden and what are we doing to find him? 29 00:01:34,818 --> 00:01:37,131 A story of military confusions 30 00:01:37,166 --> 00:01:39,029 and vicious turf wars. 31 00:01:39,064 --> 00:01:41,860 The CIA has a bunch of bad guys 32 00:01:41,894 --> 00:01:43,827 that are coming to the U.S. 33 00:01:43,862 --> 00:01:47,314 We know their flight information, for Christ's sakes! 34 00:01:47,348 --> 00:01:49,350 And you don't tell the FBI? 35 00:01:50,696 --> 00:01:52,284 All the intelligence agencies 36 00:01:52,319 --> 00:01:53,699 focused on Bin Laden. 37 00:01:53,734 --> 00:01:55,736 And the task was to find him. 38 00:01:55,770 --> 00:01:58,773 And, of course, his task was to not be found. 39 00:02:00,844 --> 00:02:03,399 You can run, and you can hide, 40 00:02:03,433 --> 00:02:04,745 but we will never stop looking, 41 00:02:04,779 --> 00:02:07,023 and eventually, we will find you. 42 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:15,074 OpenSubtitles recommends using Nord VPN from 3.49 USD/month ----> osdb.link/vpn 43 00:02:23,833 --> 00:02:25,145 For most of the world, 44 00:02:25,179 --> 00:02:30,046 September 11, 2001, is a catastrophe without warning. 45 00:02:33,705 --> 00:02:35,810 But for a handful of insiders 46 00:02:35,845 --> 00:02:39,849 who've spent the previous decade pursuing Osama Bin Laden, 47 00:02:39,883 --> 00:02:42,679 the signals had been alarmingly clear. 48 00:02:44,336 --> 00:02:47,650 We worried that Bin Laden would carry out 49 00:02:47,684 --> 00:02:49,721 an attack in the United States. 50 00:02:49,755 --> 00:02:52,551 We were the far enemy, 51 00:02:52,586 --> 00:02:55,347 he said the far enemy should be attacked. 52 00:02:57,798 --> 00:03:01,042 It wasn't like, oh, my gosh, look what happened. 53 00:03:01,077 --> 00:03:03,907 It was a consummation of everything 54 00:03:03,942 --> 00:03:07,670 that we had reported about osama Bin Laden. 55 00:03:07,704 --> 00:03:10,569 For a small group of counter-terrorism specialists 56 00:03:10,604 --> 00:03:14,159 from the CIA, the FBI, and the white house 57 00:03:14,194 --> 00:03:16,748 for whom Bin Laden has become an obsession, 58 00:03:16,782 --> 00:03:22,029 9/11 is the bleakest moment in a manhunt unlike any other. 59 00:03:22,063 --> 00:03:26,654 They are now more driven than ever to get him. 60 00:03:26,689 --> 00:03:29,105 Terrorism consumes you. 61 00:03:29,139 --> 00:03:30,900 You don't see your family, you miss birthdays, 62 00:03:30,934 --> 00:03:32,798 you miss holidays. 63 00:03:32,833 --> 00:03:36,526 If you don't let it consume you, it'll destroy you. 64 00:03:37,872 --> 00:03:38,804 What if I'd stayed five minutes later 65 00:03:38,839 --> 00:03:39,874 in my office tonight? 66 00:03:39,909 --> 00:03:40,944 What if I'd made that one phone call? 67 00:03:40,979 --> 00:03:42,463 What if I did that one link 68 00:03:42,498 --> 00:03:44,016 between that person and that person? 69 00:03:44,051 --> 00:03:46,260 What am I missing to get Bin Laden, 70 00:03:46,295 --> 00:03:50,091 bring him to justice, or kill him? 71 00:03:50,126 --> 00:03:52,887 I had a "wanted" poster in my house for Bin Laden 72 00:03:52,922 --> 00:03:54,337 that was six feet tall. 73 00:03:57,340 --> 00:03:59,480 It was in my bedroom. 74 00:04:01,793 --> 00:04:03,795 I wanted to kill him myself. 75 00:04:03,829 --> 00:04:05,762 I didn't want somebody else to do it. 76 00:04:06,832 --> 00:04:08,178 Watch out, watch out! 77 00:04:16,635 --> 00:04:22,054 February 26, 1993, eight years before 9/11. 78 00:04:22,089 --> 00:04:24,885 A truck bomb explodes underneath the world trade center 79 00:04:24,919 --> 00:04:26,887 in New York. 80 00:04:26,921 --> 00:04:30,580 It is the first attempt to take down the twin towers... 81 00:04:30,615 --> 00:04:33,238 And a shocking message that Islamist terror 82 00:04:33,273 --> 00:04:36,483 has reached the American heartland. 83 00:04:36,517 --> 00:04:38,312 Six people are killed. 84 00:04:38,347 --> 00:04:40,935 It's a lucky escape for thousands. 85 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,256 As FBI specialists begin to investigate, 86 00:04:51,291 --> 00:04:54,328 one name keeps coming up... 87 00:04:54,363 --> 00:04:57,780 Osama Bin Laden. 88 00:04:57,814 --> 00:05:00,023 That first bombing of the world trade center 89 00:05:00,058 --> 00:05:04,683 was really the eye-opener for radical extremism 90 00:05:04,718 --> 00:05:07,030 and their activities in the United States. 91 00:05:07,065 --> 00:05:09,481 An attack on our soil, domestically, 92 00:05:09,516 --> 00:05:12,519 that event caused all of the investigations 93 00:05:12,553 --> 00:05:15,453 being opened up into osama Bin Laden. 94 00:05:18,041 --> 00:05:20,492 As the investigators begin to piece together 95 00:05:20,527 --> 00:05:23,771 the trail of evidence about the mysterious Bin Laden, 96 00:05:23,806 --> 00:05:27,706 they find an extraordinary and disturbing story. 97 00:05:30,847 --> 00:05:33,333 Osama Bin Laden is the 17th child 98 00:05:33,367 --> 00:05:37,509 of a billionaire Saudi businessman. 99 00:05:37,544 --> 00:05:41,306 On his father's death he inherits a fortune, 100 00:05:41,341 --> 00:05:43,550 and as a dedicated student of Islam, 101 00:05:43,584 --> 00:05:47,554 Bin Laden travels in 1984 to Afghanistan. 102 00:05:54,423 --> 00:05:57,805 27-year-old Bin Laden joins thousands of Islamic guerrillas 103 00:05:57,840 --> 00:06:00,532 in their jihad... 104 00:06:00,567 --> 00:06:03,432 A holy war against the godless communist armies 105 00:06:03,466 --> 00:06:08,989 of the Soviet union which have invaded Afghanistan. 106 00:06:09,023 --> 00:06:12,786 Bin Laden helps to fund the jihad with his millions. 107 00:06:14,063 --> 00:06:17,100 The jihadists also have an unlikely ally... 108 00:06:17,135 --> 00:06:18,964 America's CIA, 109 00:06:18,999 --> 00:06:22,830 which is supporting the anti-communist fighters. 110 00:06:22,865 --> 00:06:25,971 CIA chief Gary schroen is in Afghanistan, 111 00:06:26,006 --> 00:06:30,769 working with the Islamic Mujahideen. 112 00:06:30,804 --> 00:06:32,771 There's a rumor that Bin Laden 113 00:06:32,806 --> 00:06:36,844 was a great jihadist leader, that he led his men in combat. 114 00:06:36,879 --> 00:06:40,089 But it looks like his commander thought that his checkbook 115 00:06:40,123 --> 00:06:44,093 was much more important than his use of a Kalashnikov. 116 00:06:44,127 --> 00:06:46,440 Bin Laden begins to make an impression 117 00:06:46,475 --> 00:06:48,960 on his fellow fighters. 118 00:06:48,994 --> 00:06:50,789 He was very, very calm, 119 00:06:50,824 --> 00:06:52,998 and he was like a unique individual, you know. 120 00:06:53,033 --> 00:06:55,449 Even when you are angry or you... 121 00:06:55,484 --> 00:06:59,073 Sometimes your action may provoke him, you know. 122 00:06:59,108 --> 00:07:02,387 He was capable always to remain calm and silent 123 00:07:02,422 --> 00:07:07,081 and he would give a very wide smile, you know, 124 00:07:07,116 --> 00:07:10,326 as a message of peace. 125 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:15,365 Bin Laden soon finds his key role in jihad. 126 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,644 With a handful of other Islamic fighters, 127 00:07:17,678 --> 00:07:22,200 he drafts this founding document for Al Qaeda..."The base," 128 00:07:22,234 --> 00:07:25,652 an organization to rally and coordinate terrorist groups 129 00:07:25,686 --> 00:07:28,033 from around the world. 130 00:07:29,690 --> 00:07:31,105 We knew nothing about Al Qaeda at the time. 131 00:07:31,140 --> 00:07:33,418 We didn't even know the name Al Qaeda at the time. 132 00:07:33,453 --> 00:07:36,663 I mean, Al Qaeda had come into existence 133 00:07:36,697 --> 00:07:39,113 and had its basic documents of incorporation 134 00:07:39,148 --> 00:07:41,530 and had meetings and all of that, 135 00:07:41,564 --> 00:07:45,361 and the CIA had never noticed. 136 00:07:47,536 --> 00:07:50,228 February 15, 1989. 137 00:07:50,262 --> 00:07:55,095 The last Soviet forces pull out of Afghanistan. 138 00:07:55,129 --> 00:07:57,822 Bin Laden has learned a crucial lesson... 139 00:07:57,856 --> 00:08:01,411 Jihad can defeat a superpower. 140 00:08:06,762 --> 00:08:08,384 August 1990. 141 00:08:08,418 --> 00:08:11,870 U.S. forces are invited into Bin Laden's Saudi homeland 142 00:08:11,905 --> 00:08:17,151 to fight the first Gulf war against Iraq. 143 00:08:17,186 --> 00:08:21,259 Bin Laden is infuriated by the arrival of American soldiers, 144 00:08:21,293 --> 00:08:23,261 and the event will shape his life 145 00:08:23,295 --> 00:08:27,610 and ignite his rage against the United States. 146 00:08:27,645 --> 00:08:31,096 He issues fierce denunciations of the Saudi rulers 147 00:08:31,131 --> 00:08:36,170 for allowing infidel forces onto the holy soil of Islam. 148 00:08:36,205 --> 00:08:37,413 I think since then, 149 00:08:37,447 --> 00:08:40,416 Bin Laden, he was like 100% committed to the idea 150 00:08:40,450 --> 00:08:44,593 of, like, fighting against the... What he called the crusaders 151 00:08:44,627 --> 00:08:47,043 and the enemy of Islam, 152 00:08:47,078 --> 00:08:49,149 he was, I think, clear 153 00:08:49,183 --> 00:08:52,221 about exactly the vision he should adopt. 154 00:08:55,362 --> 00:08:57,709 Bin Laden's vision is nothing less 155 00:08:57,744 --> 00:09:00,194 than a new world order. 156 00:09:00,229 --> 00:09:03,232 He is determined to free Palestine, 157 00:09:03,266 --> 00:09:06,546 and to bring fundamentalist Islamic rule around the world 158 00:09:06,580 --> 00:09:10,653 to counter western imperialism and American power. 159 00:09:17,315 --> 00:09:19,144 Following his bitter denunciations 160 00:09:19,179 --> 00:09:20,629 of the Saudi rulers, 161 00:09:20,663 --> 00:09:23,632 Bin Laden is expelled from his homeland. 162 00:09:29,776 --> 00:09:33,538 In April 1991, he arrives in Sudan 163 00:09:33,573 --> 00:09:38,543 and begins to turn Al Qaeda into a force of global terror. 164 00:09:43,099 --> 00:09:46,275 Bin Laden is welcomed by the regime in Khartoum, 165 00:09:46,309 --> 00:09:50,762 which is a refuge for international terrorists. 166 00:09:50,797 --> 00:09:56,354 For the first time, America begins to pay attention. 167 00:09:56,388 --> 00:09:59,633 What he was doing was preserving his Afghan army 168 00:09:59,668 --> 00:10:01,808 by bringing the veterans down to Sudan, 169 00:10:01,842 --> 00:10:04,949 and then he was using Khartoum as a staging base 170 00:10:04,983 --> 00:10:10,955 to bring radical terrorist types from all over the Islamic world. 171 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,651 October 1993, 172 00:10:17,686 --> 00:10:20,758 eight months after the world trade center bombing. 173 00:10:20,792 --> 00:10:23,208 Bin Laden strikes in Africa... 174 00:10:23,243 --> 00:10:27,316 But once again, the target is the United States. 175 00:10:31,631 --> 00:10:35,048 In the incident that becomes known as "black hawk down," 176 00:10:35,082 --> 00:10:39,328 two U.S. helicopters are brought down by Somali terrorists. 177 00:10:42,918 --> 00:10:45,023 The images of dead U.S. soldiers 178 00:10:45,058 --> 00:10:47,439 dragged through the streets of Mogadishu 179 00:10:47,474 --> 00:10:51,685 will burn into American memories. 180 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:57,139 The terrorists have been trained by Bin Laden's Afghan veterans. 181 00:10:57,173 --> 00:10:59,969 They began to shoot down American helicopters 182 00:11:00,004 --> 00:11:03,870 using a technique that the people had used in Afghanistan, 183 00:11:03,904 --> 00:11:07,356 are rocket-propelled grenades fired from tall buildings. 184 00:11:07,390 --> 00:11:08,668 That's not intuitive, 185 00:11:08,702 --> 00:11:11,360 you don't know to do it unless you're taught. 186 00:11:17,021 --> 00:11:20,196 18 American soldiers and hundreds of Somalis 187 00:11:20,231 --> 00:11:23,648 are killed. 188 00:11:23,683 --> 00:11:28,584 I, William Jefferson Clinton, do solemnly swear... 189 00:11:28,618 --> 00:11:31,380 President Bill Clinton is urged by some advisors 190 00:11:31,414 --> 00:11:34,521 to consider a radical idea... 191 00:11:34,555 --> 00:11:38,836 Snatching Bin Laden from his base in Khartoum. 192 00:11:38,870 --> 00:11:43,668 But there are obstacles, both practical and legal. 193 00:11:43,703 --> 00:11:45,532 The problem of getting him in Khartoum 194 00:11:45,566 --> 00:11:49,778 was the CIA told us they had no capability to do snatches. 195 00:11:49,812 --> 00:11:52,470 We were flabbergasted. 196 00:11:52,504 --> 00:11:55,059 The CIA station chief in Khartoum 197 00:11:55,093 --> 00:11:57,924 insists his hands are tied. 198 00:11:57,958 --> 00:11:59,649 It's very important to remember 199 00:11:59,684 --> 00:12:01,272 that at that time there was no warrant 200 00:12:01,306 --> 00:12:03,999 for osama Bin Laden's arrest. 201 00:12:04,033 --> 00:12:07,623 Covert action to degrade them as a terrorist group 202 00:12:07,657 --> 00:12:10,591 was not approvable at that time. 203 00:12:10,626 --> 00:12:13,215 So a big question was, 204 00:12:13,249 --> 00:12:17,564 even if we did our hands on him, what would happen next? 205 00:12:17,598 --> 00:12:19,566 It's almost like the dog who catches the car 206 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:20,774 that he's always chasing. 207 00:12:20,809 --> 00:12:22,707 What do you do when you finally catch him? 208 00:12:22,742 --> 00:12:24,226 What the white house was told 209 00:12:24,260 --> 00:12:28,402 was the world's only remaining superpower, the United States... 210 00:12:28,437 --> 00:12:30,266 Had just won the cold war... 211 00:12:30,301 --> 00:12:34,719 Didn't have the ability to get one guy in Khartoum. 212 00:12:37,446 --> 00:12:39,517 Soon after black hawk down, 213 00:12:39,551 --> 00:12:44,798 President Clinton withdraws U.S. troops from Somalia. 214 00:12:44,833 --> 00:12:46,558 We didn't follow up, we left. 215 00:12:46,593 --> 00:12:49,769 So as a consequence, Al Qaeda took the position 216 00:12:49,803 --> 00:12:54,014 that you kill enough Americans, and they'll run away. 217 00:12:55,844 --> 00:12:58,018 Once again, Bin Laden learns 218 00:12:58,053 --> 00:13:01,884 that he can challenge a superpower. 219 00:13:01,919 --> 00:13:04,784 And the United States is learning how complex it is 220 00:13:04,818 --> 00:13:08,580 to take on Bin Laden. 221 00:13:08,615 --> 00:13:11,031 In my mind, the Mogadishu situation 222 00:13:11,066 --> 00:13:15,449 should have been sufficient to justify going to get him. 223 00:13:18,349 --> 00:13:20,903 But it wasn't, it wasn't allowed. 224 00:13:23,664 --> 00:13:26,564 At the time, despite these first attacks, 225 00:13:26,598 --> 00:13:29,670 Bin Laden still seems a distant threat. 226 00:13:35,055 --> 00:13:37,575 And America is becoming caught in the dilemma 227 00:13:37,609 --> 00:13:42,200 that will haunt Bin Laden's hunters all the way to 9/11. 228 00:13:42,235 --> 00:13:44,409 Is he a criminal to be brought to justice 229 00:13:44,444 --> 00:13:46,170 through the legal system? 230 00:13:46,204 --> 00:13:51,002 Or a mortal enemy to be targeted by any means necessary? 231 00:13:55,731 --> 00:13:58,665 For now, the focus is on gathering intelligence 232 00:13:58,699 --> 00:14:02,496 to uncover the true scale of Bin Laden's threat. 233 00:14:04,705 --> 00:14:06,880 A picture emerges of Bin Laden 234 00:14:06,915 --> 00:14:10,884 as really the head of a terrorist group 235 00:14:10,919 --> 00:14:13,922 that we need to worry about a great deal. 236 00:14:13,956 --> 00:14:15,682 By the mid 1990s, 237 00:14:15,716 --> 00:14:18,788 America's counter-terrorist specialists realize 238 00:14:18,823 --> 00:14:22,896 that Al Qaeda is rapidly expanding cells and influence 239 00:14:22,931 --> 00:14:26,831 from west Africa right across to the Indian subcontinent. 240 00:14:28,937 --> 00:14:31,663 Bin Laden's ambition to confront and defeat 241 00:14:31,698 --> 00:14:35,633 American power around the world is building. 242 00:14:40,293 --> 00:14:43,779 Al Qaeda is almost like an organized crime family, 243 00:14:43,813 --> 00:14:47,783 in which you basically had Bin Laden as the godfather. 244 00:14:52,270 --> 00:14:54,272 Far more sophisticated than we thought, 245 00:14:54,307 --> 00:14:55,515 it would have been foolish 246 00:14:55,549 --> 00:14:57,344 to make fun of Bin Laden and Al Qaeda 247 00:14:57,379 --> 00:14:59,622 to think it was just some sort of harebrained idea 248 00:14:59,657 --> 00:15:03,626 of a radical Islamist who had no future. 249 00:15:03,661 --> 00:15:06,664 It was an organization top to bottom, 250 00:15:06,698 --> 00:15:08,908 Bin Laden the CEO. 251 00:15:12,704 --> 00:15:18,158 Soon acts of terror erupt across the middle east. 252 00:15:18,193 --> 00:15:23,060 November 1995, five Americans killed in Riyadh. 253 00:15:25,786 --> 00:15:32,138 June 1996, 19 U.S. airmen die in the Khobar towers bombing. 254 00:15:32,172 --> 00:15:36,487 There's even a plot to assassinate President Clinton. 255 00:15:39,110 --> 00:15:41,009 Finally, in 1996, 256 00:15:41,043 --> 00:15:44,840 fearing Bin Laden's mayhem will bring international sanctions, 257 00:15:44,874 --> 00:15:51,536 Sudan expels its increasingly uncontrollable guest. 258 00:15:51,571 --> 00:15:55,644 Bin Laden flees to his old refuge in Afghanistan. 259 00:15:57,508 --> 00:16:01,167 He might as well have moved to the other side of the moon 260 00:16:01,201 --> 00:16:02,823 for all our ability 261 00:16:02,858 --> 00:16:05,447 to do anything with him in Afghanistan. 262 00:16:08,829 --> 00:16:11,315 Building his new base in Afghanistan, 263 00:16:11,349 --> 00:16:18,011 Bin Laden has put himself beyond the reach of his pursuers. 264 00:16:18,046 --> 00:16:20,565 He makes an alliance with the Taliban, 265 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,705 fanatical Islamic tribesmen 266 00:16:22,740 --> 00:16:24,604 who are mounting a remorseless attack 267 00:16:24,638 --> 00:16:26,675 on the government in Kabul 268 00:16:26,709 --> 00:16:30,782 and enforcing their repressive rule as they advance. 269 00:16:39,895 --> 00:16:41,828 In August 1996, 270 00:16:41,862 --> 00:16:44,693 through a radical Islamic newspaper in London, 271 00:16:44,727 --> 00:16:48,179 Bin Laden issues a fatwa, an Islamic decree, 272 00:16:48,214 --> 00:16:52,597 against America for occupying places holy to Islam. 273 00:16:58,086 --> 00:17:01,813 It amounts to a declaration of war. 274 00:17:04,609 --> 00:17:06,301 This is a very bad man. 275 00:17:06,335 --> 00:17:07,681 This guy has got to be stopped 276 00:17:07,716 --> 00:17:11,720 before he becomes what he becomes. 277 00:17:11,754 --> 00:17:13,653 At a base near the CIA headquarters 278 00:17:13,687 --> 00:17:15,310 at Langley, Virginia, 279 00:17:15,344 --> 00:17:17,829 the CIA and FBI combine 280 00:17:17,864 --> 00:17:21,074 to form a special unit, the Alex station, 281 00:17:21,109 --> 00:17:25,837 dedicated to pursuing Bin Laden and bringing him to justice. 282 00:17:28,116 --> 00:17:31,878 "All Bin Laden, all the time" was the desired attitude, 283 00:17:31,912 --> 00:17:36,848 and it was the attitude of the people working there. 284 00:17:36,883 --> 00:17:39,230 But Bin Laden remains a remote figure 285 00:17:39,265 --> 00:17:43,027 pulling the strings behind the scenes. 286 00:17:43,062 --> 00:17:48,032 It's hard to find evidence to mount a criminal case. 287 00:17:48,067 --> 00:17:51,104 President Clinton secretly authorizes the CIA 288 00:17:51,139 --> 00:17:54,038 to seize him without an arrest warrant. 289 00:17:54,073 --> 00:17:57,421 But they can't kill him. 290 00:17:57,455 --> 00:17:59,043 The president literally signs his name 291 00:17:59,078 --> 00:18:02,633 to a piece of paper and says, "go do this." 292 00:18:02,667 --> 00:18:07,638 And so we had authority to go and try and capture him. 293 00:18:07,672 --> 00:18:09,536 But on several occasions, 294 00:18:09,571 --> 00:18:13,057 CIA intelligence about Bin Laden's location 295 00:18:13,092 --> 00:18:16,164 is judged to be unreliable. 296 00:18:16,198 --> 00:18:17,717 We were asking the CIA 297 00:18:17,751 --> 00:18:20,237 to try to snatch him in Afghanistan. 298 00:18:20,271 --> 00:18:22,480 And CIA went through a whole series 299 00:18:22,515 --> 00:18:25,690 of sort of keystone cops-like episodes 300 00:18:25,725 --> 00:18:30,143 where they hired what they called "tribals." 301 00:18:30,178 --> 00:18:32,697 The Afghan group came up with a plan 302 00:18:32,732 --> 00:18:37,012 to go in at night and kidnap him, 303 00:18:37,046 --> 00:18:40,533 and they provided photographs, maps, sketches. 304 00:18:40,567 --> 00:18:44,502 They had a cave where they would hold him for 30 days. 305 00:18:44,537 --> 00:18:46,642 They came up with a sort of goofy plan 306 00:18:46,677 --> 00:18:52,545 for a frontal assault on Bin Laden's walled compound, 307 00:18:52,579 --> 00:18:54,133 a walled compound that was defended 308 00:18:54,167 --> 00:18:56,825 by tanks and machine guns. 309 00:18:56,859 --> 00:18:58,792 Unfortunately, we didn't know for sure 310 00:18:58,827 --> 00:19:02,175 which house he would be in on any given night, 311 00:19:02,210 --> 00:19:06,317 and so the odds of the raid being successful 312 00:19:06,352 --> 00:19:09,148 were even less than 20%. 313 00:19:09,182 --> 00:19:10,632 And it was canceled. 314 00:19:12,875 --> 00:19:15,878 As the hunt for Bin Laden becomes more intense, 315 00:19:15,913 --> 00:19:20,297 the FBI tracks down two crucial witnesses. 316 00:19:20,331 --> 00:19:25,336 Both had been close to Bin Laden since the 1980s. 317 00:19:25,371 --> 00:19:28,891 The things that started coming out were incredible. 318 00:19:28,926 --> 00:19:32,032 The psychological games that are played, 319 00:19:32,067 --> 00:19:35,588 I have to tell you, I never had more fun in my life. 320 00:19:38,625 --> 00:19:43,354 Their interrogations will go on for years. 321 00:19:43,389 --> 00:19:45,977 But the witnesses start to give vivid details 322 00:19:46,012 --> 00:19:51,120 of Bin Laden's operations and his personality. 323 00:19:51,155 --> 00:19:54,158 He was a hypochondriac. 324 00:19:54,193 --> 00:19:57,092 He was a mama's boy. 325 00:19:57,126 --> 00:19:59,439 He was very close to his birth mother. 326 00:19:59,474 --> 00:20:01,614 It's extremely organized. 327 00:20:01,648 --> 00:20:06,481 There are membership lists, there are employment contracts. 328 00:20:06,515 --> 00:20:08,448 He slept two or three hours a night, 329 00:20:08,483 --> 00:20:10,933 he was very careful about what he ate. 330 00:20:10,968 --> 00:20:16,939 There are benefits, there are agreements, 331 00:20:16,974 --> 00:20:18,527 there are committees. 332 00:20:18,562 --> 00:20:22,704 Does Bin Laden wear disguises? Yes. 333 00:20:22,738 --> 00:20:25,465 Does Bin Laden ever dress as a woman? Yes. 334 00:20:28,882 --> 00:20:34,578 Would he fight if cornered? Would he commit suicide? 335 00:20:37,512 --> 00:20:39,755 On and on and on. 336 00:20:44,173 --> 00:20:46,866 May 1998. 337 00:20:48,833 --> 00:20:50,939 Bin Laden summons reporters 338 00:20:50,973 --> 00:20:55,150 to hear him issue a new and more extreme fatwa. 339 00:20:55,184 --> 00:20:57,566 It authorizes indiscriminate killing 340 00:20:57,601 --> 00:21:01,121 of Americans and Jews everywhere. 341 00:21:26,146 --> 00:21:27,493 Two days later, 342 00:21:27,527 --> 00:21:31,082 Bin Laden agrees to meet John Miller of ABC news 343 00:21:31,117 --> 00:21:33,533 at a secret hideout. 344 00:21:33,568 --> 00:21:35,742 Mr. Bin Laden, you've issued a fatwa 345 00:21:35,777 --> 00:21:38,435 calling on Muslims to kill Americans, 346 00:21:38,469 --> 00:21:40,678 where they can, when they can. 347 00:21:40,713 --> 00:21:44,993 He uses the interview to issue menacing threats. 348 00:21:55,244 --> 00:21:57,350 What Bin Laden had done... 349 00:21:57,385 --> 00:22:01,527 Master manipulator that he was, very smart individual... 350 00:22:01,561 --> 00:22:03,943 He summoned the press because he felt 351 00:22:03,977 --> 00:22:06,980 it was the cheapest, easiest way to get his message out. 352 00:22:09,983 --> 00:22:11,468 Over the next decade, 353 00:22:11,502 --> 00:22:14,574 Bin Laden will use TV with increasing skill 354 00:22:14,609 --> 00:22:17,405 to spread his message. 355 00:22:17,439 --> 00:22:19,510 He needs his time on the air. 356 00:22:19,545 --> 00:22:22,513 He needs his time in the columns of the newspaper, 357 00:22:22,548 --> 00:22:25,861 because that's what they use in order to recruit people, 358 00:22:25,896 --> 00:22:28,381 people who feel, you know, 359 00:22:28,416 --> 00:22:31,488 that there is a big conspiracy against Islam. 360 00:22:33,628 --> 00:22:34,905 That's Bin Laden. 361 00:22:34,939 --> 00:22:36,389 He was like one of the masters, 362 00:22:36,424 --> 00:22:38,115 you know, in the Islamic movement, 363 00:22:38,149 --> 00:22:42,188 you know, in terms of branding. 364 00:22:42,222 --> 00:22:43,983 He was responsible, like, personally, you know, 365 00:22:44,017 --> 00:22:45,985 for branding Al Qaeda. 366 00:22:56,133 --> 00:23:00,862 August 7, 1998. 367 00:23:00,896 --> 00:23:03,382 The gathering storm of Bin Laden's threats 368 00:23:03,416 --> 00:23:06,764 breaks with devastating force in Africa. 369 00:23:10,423 --> 00:23:12,770 Bombs rip apart America’s embassies 370 00:23:12,805 --> 00:23:16,602 in the cities of Nairobi and Dar es Salaam. 371 00:23:19,501 --> 00:23:26,405 258 people die, more than 4,000 are injured. 372 00:23:28,027 --> 00:23:29,304 Why? 373 00:23:34,620 --> 00:23:36,242 Why would you do that? 374 00:23:45,251 --> 00:23:46,839 We had no doubt in our minds 375 00:23:46,873 --> 00:23:49,048 that Bin Laden was behind the attack, 376 00:23:49,082 --> 00:23:50,567 we had no doubt in our mind 377 00:23:50,601 --> 00:23:53,846 that Al Qaeda strike the United States. 378 00:23:59,161 --> 00:24:01,094 We saw that as "uh-oh," 379 00:24:01,129 --> 00:24:04,546 we are now in some sort of global conflict here 380 00:24:04,581 --> 00:24:07,307 with a person who's out to do us serious damage, 381 00:24:07,342 --> 00:24:09,931 and this is probably just the beginning. 382 00:24:09,965 --> 00:24:13,244 That was the, the real pivot out of the '98 bombings, 383 00:24:13,279 --> 00:24:15,246 was "we are at war." 384 00:24:21,598 --> 00:24:24,601 But the hunt is still being pursued by America 385 00:24:24,635 --> 00:24:27,707 not as a war, but as a criminal case. 386 00:24:31,021 --> 00:24:33,575 Mark Rossini flies out to Nairobi 387 00:24:33,610 --> 00:24:38,304 as part of the FBI investigating team. 388 00:24:38,338 --> 00:24:39,685 I can't wait to get on the ground 389 00:24:39,719 --> 00:24:41,134 and start investigating this. 390 00:24:41,169 --> 00:24:42,826 I've got to see the crime scene, I've got to get there, 391 00:24:42,860 --> 00:24:45,276 I've got to feel it, I've got to touch it. 392 00:24:48,901 --> 00:24:51,904 FBI investigators track down a terrorist 393 00:24:51,938 --> 00:24:56,736 who was in the bomb truck, Mohammed Al Wali. 394 00:24:56,771 --> 00:25:00,050 Astonishingly, the 21-year-old Al Wali, 395 00:25:00,084 --> 00:25:03,812 a well-educated Saudi from a prominent merchant family, 396 00:25:03,847 --> 00:25:06,712 has survived the suicide bombing. 397 00:25:06,746 --> 00:25:10,060 He began running away and was hit by the blast 398 00:25:10,094 --> 00:25:13,166 and had all kinds of lacerations and cuts on his back. 399 00:25:15,134 --> 00:25:18,827 We had conducted investigations at all the hospitals. 400 00:25:18,862 --> 00:25:22,762 That led to the capture of Al Wali. 401 00:25:25,213 --> 00:25:30,563 He's asked, "you killed a lot of Muslims 402 00:25:30,598 --> 00:25:35,534 and Kenyans in the street rather than Americans. 403 00:25:35,568 --> 00:25:40,124 And you did it on a Friday, the holy day." 404 00:25:40,159 --> 00:25:43,611 And he said, "well, all those good Muslims 405 00:25:43,645 --> 00:25:46,510 should have been in the mosque, 406 00:25:46,545 --> 00:25:49,340 so I did them a favor, essentially, by killing them, 407 00:25:49,375 --> 00:25:51,308 and they actually deserved to die." 408 00:25:55,139 --> 00:25:56,451 He didn't want to look at the pictures 409 00:25:56,485 --> 00:25:58,626 of the innocent civilians that were killed at first, 410 00:25:58,660 --> 00:26:02,526 he wouldn't look at them. 411 00:26:02,561 --> 00:26:04,942 Finally we got him to look at that, 412 00:26:04,977 --> 00:26:07,255 and that's when he confessed. 413 00:26:09,637 --> 00:26:12,191 The FBI investigators discover that Bin Laden 414 00:26:12,225 --> 00:26:17,023 began planning the embassy bombings as far back as 1993 415 00:26:17,058 --> 00:26:19,716 when he sent an Al Qaeda spy to Nairobi 416 00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:24,341 to take photographs and draw up plans. 417 00:26:24,375 --> 00:26:27,516 Bin Laden then personally approved the attack, 418 00:26:27,551 --> 00:26:32,591 but delayed the operation until he had left neighboring Sudan. 419 00:26:35,248 --> 00:26:37,768 The planning for the embassy bombing 420 00:26:37,803 --> 00:26:40,426 was done five years before the fact, 421 00:26:40,460 --> 00:26:44,741 which is just shows you how insidious they are. 422 00:26:44,775 --> 00:26:47,260 That's when my eyes were opened 423 00:26:47,295 --> 00:26:53,232 as to how vast and structured this was. 424 00:26:54,958 --> 00:26:57,339 Al Qaeda operatives are now proliferating 425 00:26:57,374 --> 00:26:59,652 beyond Africa and the middle east, 426 00:26:59,687 --> 00:27:01,447 right across Europe. 427 00:27:01,481 --> 00:27:05,934 Anti-terrorism specialists struggle to keep track of them. 428 00:27:18,706 --> 00:27:20,431 And then of course you get angry and say, 429 00:27:20,466 --> 00:27:23,607 "someone's got to be brought to justice, this cannot go on. 430 00:27:23,642 --> 00:27:26,127 Someone must go to jail for this behavior," 431 00:27:26,161 --> 00:27:30,338 and that's what drives you, to right the wrong. 432 00:27:36,896 --> 00:27:39,554 No matter what it takes, 433 00:27:39,588 --> 00:27:43,765 we must find those responsible for these evil acts 434 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,665 and see that justice is done. 435 00:27:52,049 --> 00:27:53,464 The people who perpetrated those acts 436 00:27:53,499 --> 00:27:55,363 were a new type of enemy, 437 00:27:55,397 --> 00:27:58,090 so how do we go after them, was the real question. 438 00:28:03,371 --> 00:28:06,305 A few days after the embassy bombings in Africa, 439 00:28:06,339 --> 00:28:08,859 there's a sudden and unexpected opportunity 440 00:28:08,894 --> 00:28:12,104 to strike at Bin Laden. 441 00:28:12,138 --> 00:28:14,175 An urgent CIA briefing reports 442 00:28:14,209 --> 00:28:16,384 that he will be meeting Al Qaeda leaders 443 00:28:16,418 --> 00:28:20,560 in an Afghan training camp. 444 00:28:20,595 --> 00:28:24,150 The United States now moves from criminal investigation 445 00:28:24,185 --> 00:28:27,326 to military action. 446 00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:29,052 Today I ordered our armed forces 447 00:28:29,086 --> 00:28:31,571 to strike at terrorist-related facilities 448 00:28:31,606 --> 00:28:35,265 in Afghanistan and Sudan. 449 00:28:35,299 --> 00:28:38,509 President Clinton orders operation infinite reach... 450 00:28:38,544 --> 00:28:40,615 The firing of scores of cruise missiles 451 00:28:40,649 --> 00:28:42,721 at Bin Laden's training camps. 452 00:28:45,689 --> 00:28:48,657 He also targets a suspected chemical weapons factory 453 00:28:48,692 --> 00:28:50,659 in Sudan. 454 00:28:50,694 --> 00:28:55,457 Our target was terror, our mission was clear... 455 00:28:55,492 --> 00:28:57,494 To strike at osama Bin Laden, 456 00:28:57,528 --> 00:29:00,048 perhaps the preeminent organizer and financier 457 00:29:00,083 --> 00:29:03,603 of international terrorism in the world today. 458 00:29:06,779 --> 00:29:08,539 Unfortunately, we learned 459 00:29:08,574 --> 00:29:10,093 from intelligence later on 460 00:29:10,127 --> 00:29:12,474 that we missed him by about two hours. 461 00:29:12,509 --> 00:29:14,787 It was close, but no cigar. 462 00:29:14,822 --> 00:29:18,032 Down, down, USA! Down, down, USA! 463 00:29:18,066 --> 00:29:19,585 Down, down, USA! 464 00:29:19,619 --> 00:29:23,244 The price of failure is immense. 465 00:29:23,278 --> 00:29:28,283 In Pakistan and Sudan, furious crowds rage against America. 466 00:29:31,977 --> 00:29:35,014 President Clinton is bombarded with accusations 467 00:29:35,049 --> 00:29:37,534 that he ordered the strike to distract attention 468 00:29:37,568 --> 00:29:41,434 from his affair with white house intern Monica Lewinsky. 469 00:29:45,645 --> 00:29:48,648 And the suspected Khartoum chemical weapons plant 470 00:29:48,683 --> 00:29:51,928 proves to be an innocent pharmaceutical factory. 471 00:29:54,378 --> 00:29:57,899 The hunt for Bin Laden loses its focus. 472 00:29:57,934 --> 00:30:01,213 Military action is shelved. 473 00:30:01,247 --> 00:30:03,802 At the very moment America understands 474 00:30:03,836 --> 00:30:06,252 the scale of Bin Laden's threat, 475 00:30:06,287 --> 00:30:10,187 it has become much more difficult to stop him. 476 00:30:10,222 --> 00:30:12,086 I think it led Bin Laden to believe 477 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,331 that we weren't serious about this so-called war 478 00:30:16,366 --> 00:30:19,058 that had been declared by our adversary. 479 00:30:21,336 --> 00:30:24,132 New York, November 1998. 480 00:30:24,167 --> 00:30:26,100 The hunt for Bin Laden reverts 481 00:30:26,134 --> 00:30:29,241 to being primarily a criminal investigation. 482 00:30:29,275 --> 00:30:30,587 The superseding indictment 483 00:30:30,621 --> 00:30:33,245 charges osama Bin Laden... 484 00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:36,006 Following interrogations by the FBI 485 00:30:36,041 --> 00:30:37,974 of two captured embassy bombers, 486 00:30:38,008 --> 00:30:40,908 at last, American authorities have the evidence 487 00:30:40,942 --> 00:30:44,670 to indict Bin Laden for mass murder. 488 00:30:44,704 --> 00:30:47,190 ...Maximum sentences of life in prison 489 00:30:47,224 --> 00:30:51,090 without the possibility of parole or death. 490 00:30:51,125 --> 00:30:54,059 Bin Laden is beyond the reach of the indictment, 491 00:30:54,093 --> 00:30:59,305 secure in Afghanistan. 492 00:30:59,340 --> 00:31:01,756 What changed after the 1998 bombings 493 00:31:01,790 --> 00:31:05,380 was Bin Laden no longer stayed in one place. 494 00:31:05,415 --> 00:31:09,212 He started moving around Afghanistan. 495 00:31:09,246 --> 00:31:11,455 And so one of the difficulties 496 00:31:11,490 --> 00:31:14,424 was to try to keep track of where he was. 497 00:31:20,844 --> 00:31:26,781 By 1999, the Taliban are ruling Afghanistan, 498 00:31:26,815 --> 00:31:30,060 and Bin Laden is more protected than ever. 499 00:31:34,754 --> 00:31:37,136 Amid the chaos of tribal war, 500 00:31:37,171 --> 00:31:39,656 CIA chief Gary schroen meets up 501 00:31:39,690 --> 00:31:43,280 with the leader of the anti-Taliban northern alliance, 502 00:31:43,315 --> 00:31:47,560 Ahmad shah Massoud. 503 00:31:47,595 --> 00:31:50,805 He was probably the most charismatic 504 00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:54,188 and brilliant military commander. 505 00:31:54,222 --> 00:32:00,125 He was a poet and a great strategist. 506 00:32:00,159 --> 00:32:02,817 Schroen seeks the help of commander Massoud 507 00:32:02,851 --> 00:32:05,613 and his closest advisor, Massoud Khalili, 508 00:32:05,647 --> 00:32:09,444 in tracking down Bin Laden. 509 00:32:09,479 --> 00:32:11,895 Commander massoud was saying 510 00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:16,072 my message to America is "help us." 511 00:32:16,106 --> 00:32:19,178 Osama Bin Laden and others are coming. 512 00:32:19,213 --> 00:32:22,078 "America, wake up." 513 00:32:22,112 --> 00:32:26,979 It was as clear as the light of the morning. 514 00:32:30,534 --> 00:32:33,986 We ended up sending in CIA teams 515 00:32:34,021 --> 00:32:36,644 into the northern alliance. 516 00:32:36,678 --> 00:32:40,406 We were interested because Bin Laden was reported to travel 517 00:32:40,441 --> 00:32:42,926 and frequently did come close to places 518 00:32:42,961 --> 00:32:45,411 where they might have been able to get him. 519 00:32:45,446 --> 00:32:48,104 The northern alliance tracked Bin Laden 520 00:32:48,138 --> 00:32:51,141 to a desert hunting camp. 521 00:32:56,146 --> 00:32:58,424 And so some people in the CIA 522 00:32:58,459 --> 00:33:01,013 said, "so let's blow up the desert camp." 523 00:33:01,048 --> 00:33:03,153 This is where we began to get these questions 524 00:33:03,188 --> 00:33:06,122 of where is Bin Laden actually sleeping? 525 00:33:06,156 --> 00:33:08,400 Well, you know, ok, then it got down to, 526 00:33:08,434 --> 00:33:12,231 well, when does he go to the bathroom and where? 527 00:33:12,266 --> 00:33:13,750 The Arab Gulf expert 528 00:33:13,784 --> 00:33:17,029 said royal families from the Gulf 529 00:33:17,064 --> 00:33:21,309 fly into these places to go hunting this time of year. 530 00:33:21,344 --> 00:33:23,070 They could be members of the royal family, 531 00:33:23,104 --> 00:33:25,762 they could be very wealthy businessmen. 532 00:33:25,796 --> 00:33:27,074 If we kill a lot of them, 533 00:33:27,108 --> 00:33:30,560 this could damage our relationship with them. 534 00:33:30,594 --> 00:33:32,113 The CIA director said, 535 00:33:32,148 --> 00:33:34,978 "well, we're not blowing up a hunting camp," 536 00:33:35,013 --> 00:33:37,601 and that was that. 537 00:33:37,636 --> 00:33:40,225 My first reaction was anger, 538 00:33:40,259 --> 00:33:42,537 because I thought now this is a chance, 539 00:33:42,572 --> 00:33:46,196 we really have a chance to kill this guy. 540 00:33:46,231 --> 00:33:48,164 I'm convinced that he was there 541 00:33:48,198 --> 00:33:50,614 and we missed a good opportunity. 542 00:33:50,649 --> 00:33:53,169 We should have just gone in and blasted the whole place, 543 00:33:53,203 --> 00:33:55,792 you know, and made sure we got him. 544 00:33:57,966 --> 00:34:01,073 The desert camp incident raises critical questions 545 00:34:01,108 --> 00:34:07,459 about the means America can use to eliminate Bin Laden. 546 00:34:07,493 --> 00:34:12,291 What is an assassination and what is military action? 547 00:34:12,326 --> 00:34:16,744 And we got the sort of bizarre legal opinion 548 00:34:16,778 --> 00:34:20,403 from justice department and the white house lawyers 549 00:34:20,437 --> 00:34:22,025 that said if we knew 550 00:34:22,060 --> 00:34:25,270 where Bin Laden and the Al Qaeda leadership were, 551 00:34:25,304 --> 00:34:28,756 we could fly a bomber overhead and bomb them. 552 00:34:28,790 --> 00:34:31,276 Or we could have a submarine off the Pakistani coast, 553 00:34:31,310 --> 00:34:35,521 fire cruise missiles and blow up the facility they were in. 554 00:34:35,556 --> 00:34:39,215 But we couldn't put a bullet through their head 555 00:34:39,249 --> 00:34:41,907 from a sniper, because that was assassination. 556 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,669 Following the embassy bombings 557 00:34:45,704 --> 00:34:47,464 and the indictment of Bin Laden, 558 00:34:47,499 --> 00:34:50,502 President Clinton makes a crucial decision 559 00:34:50,536 --> 00:34:54,126 which, effectively, is a license to kill. 560 00:34:56,749 --> 00:34:59,925 Eventually, and through a long, laborious process, 561 00:34:59,959 --> 00:35:03,170 the president got a document and signed it 562 00:35:03,204 --> 00:35:08,347 that authorized the CIA to snatch him, 563 00:35:08,382 --> 00:35:10,970 but if that didn't work, to kill him. 564 00:35:11,005 --> 00:35:14,560 That was a watershed. 565 00:35:14,595 --> 00:35:17,287 While the United States hunts for Bin Laden, 566 00:35:17,322 --> 00:35:22,327 an Al Qaeda video finds him in his Afghan compound. 567 00:35:22,361 --> 00:35:26,020 In 2000, Bin Laden invites scores of jihadists 568 00:35:26,054 --> 00:35:31,025 to come and discuss the next stage of the war on the west. 569 00:35:31,059 --> 00:35:33,752 Bin Laden is continuing to attack the west, 570 00:35:33,786 --> 00:35:36,168 even though at this time his protector, 571 00:35:36,203 --> 00:35:40,345 the Taliban leader mullah Omar, to whom he's sworn obedience, 572 00:35:40,379 --> 00:35:45,108 is trying to improve relations with the United States. 573 00:35:45,143 --> 00:35:49,181 Noman Benotman confronts Bin Laden. 574 00:35:49,216 --> 00:35:51,873 Okay, how come you disobey his order 575 00:35:51,908 --> 00:35:54,048 when he ordered you to stop fighting 576 00:35:54,082 --> 00:35:56,913 and provoking United States of America? 577 00:35:56,947 --> 00:35:59,260 I faced him with this, face to face. 578 00:35:59,295 --> 00:36:04,265 And he failed to give me an answer. He failed. 579 00:36:04,300 --> 00:36:07,268 He said to me, "look, I will consider all these arguments, 580 00:36:07,303 --> 00:36:09,374 and you're right. 581 00:36:09,408 --> 00:36:12,929 But there's only one mission I can't cancel, you know, 582 00:36:12,963 --> 00:36:14,862 because it's almost there, 583 00:36:14,896 --> 00:36:18,969 and if we order the cancellation of this operation, 584 00:36:19,004 --> 00:36:24,182 it will ruin my organization and demoralize the whole group." 585 00:36:24,216 --> 00:36:25,562 I don't think it's like rocket science 586 00:36:25,597 --> 00:36:28,427 to figure it out, you know. 587 00:36:28,462 --> 00:36:30,395 It was the 11th of September, definitely. 588 00:36:32,811 --> 00:36:35,952 On the video of Bin Laden's jihadi gathering, 589 00:36:35,986 --> 00:36:40,681 two young men are laughing and sharing ideas. 590 00:36:40,715 --> 00:36:43,373 They are Ziad Jarrah and Mohammed Atta, 591 00:36:43,408 --> 00:36:49,310 two of the pilots of the 9/11 planes. 592 00:36:49,345 --> 00:36:52,727 But Bin Laden has a more immediate shock in store 593 00:36:52,762 --> 00:36:54,522 for America. 594 00:36:58,354 --> 00:37:00,666 October 12, 2000. 595 00:37:00,701 --> 00:37:03,876 An Al Qaeda video proclaims Bin Laden's latest assault 596 00:37:03,911 --> 00:37:07,604 on America. 597 00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:10,952 Suicide bombers attack the U.S.S. Cole, 598 00:37:10,987 --> 00:37:14,266 an American destroyer patrolling the Arabian sea 599 00:37:14,301 --> 00:37:16,889 that has put into harbor in Yemen. 600 00:37:19,375 --> 00:37:24,794 17 sailors are killed and 39 injured. 601 00:37:24,828 --> 00:37:26,416 We can see the African embassy bombings 602 00:37:26,451 --> 00:37:31,076 and the Cole as opening acts of a very bad play 603 00:37:31,110 --> 00:37:32,733 that occurs on 9/11. 604 00:37:37,185 --> 00:37:40,119 An FBI team is sent out to investigate, 605 00:37:40,154 --> 00:37:43,606 led by Ali Soufan. 606 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,126 You smell death, literally. 607 00:37:47,161 --> 00:37:50,682 Bodies were still wrapped in the metal. 608 00:37:50,716 --> 00:37:55,307 The explosion created such a force 609 00:37:55,342 --> 00:37:59,932 that the floor literally folded like a carpet. 610 00:37:59,967 --> 00:38:06,042 And many of the sailors were still trapped. 611 00:38:06,076 --> 00:38:08,596 If you look who we sent in to look at the aftermath, 612 00:38:08,631 --> 00:38:14,775 the Cole, a heavy FBI presence, and this is a crime. 613 00:38:14,809 --> 00:38:16,190 We didn't view that as war. 614 00:38:16,224 --> 00:38:17,433 If we had viewed it as war, we'd have probably had 615 00:38:17,467 --> 00:38:20,090 a different approach and a response. 616 00:38:21,782 --> 00:38:24,612 To the criminal investigators on the ground, 617 00:38:24,647 --> 00:38:27,063 it's clear that war should have been declared 618 00:38:27,097 --> 00:38:31,067 on Bin Laden long ago. 619 00:38:31,101 --> 00:38:34,415 What was the military response to Mogadishu? 620 00:38:34,450 --> 00:38:35,727 We pulled out. 621 00:38:41,422 --> 00:38:46,220 What was the military response to Nairobi and Dar es Salaam? 622 00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:50,914 We fired a couple of cruise missiles 623 00:38:50,949 --> 00:38:53,158 and killed a couple of bums on the ground. 624 00:38:53,192 --> 00:38:54,780 Nobody important. 625 00:38:54,815 --> 00:38:58,543 What was the military response to the Cole? None. 626 00:38:58,577 --> 00:39:01,442 None, zero. 627 00:39:01,477 --> 00:39:04,687 That was an act of war. 628 00:39:04,721 --> 00:39:07,621 Bin Laden had declared war on the United States 629 00:39:07,655 --> 00:39:12,039 in August of 1996, and he meant it. 630 00:39:12,073 --> 00:39:14,041 And we knew, the ones that worked on it, 631 00:39:14,075 --> 00:39:16,008 knew that he meant it. 632 00:39:16,043 --> 00:39:19,667 And nobody else believed us, 633 00:39:19,702 --> 00:39:23,326 but after the Cole, they didn't believe us. 634 00:39:23,361 --> 00:39:28,158 They treated the Cole like somebody had done a carjacking. 635 00:39:30,954 --> 00:39:33,543 The Cole was a quagmire, 636 00:39:33,578 --> 00:39:37,340 because it involved a tremendous commingling of agencies 637 00:39:37,375 --> 00:39:41,275 in the U.S. government having their own little battle. 638 00:39:41,309 --> 00:39:44,243 Information sharing, compartmentalization, 639 00:39:44,278 --> 00:39:49,352 - turf, rules... - All this went into play. 640 00:39:51,423 --> 00:39:55,116 Working inside the CIA and FBI joint operation 641 00:39:55,151 --> 00:39:56,877 to hunt down Bin Laden, 642 00:39:56,911 --> 00:40:00,501 Mark Rossini is shocked to find that investigations 643 00:40:00,536 --> 00:40:03,884 are becoming entangled in bureaucratic reluctance 644 00:40:03,918 --> 00:40:07,853 to share information between agencies. 645 00:40:07,888 --> 00:40:11,305 He gets a phone call from FBI colleague Ali soufan 646 00:40:11,339 --> 00:40:16,724 who's in Aden alongside the U.S.S. Cole. 647 00:40:16,759 --> 00:40:18,623 He's in the water next to the boat 648 00:40:18,657 --> 00:40:19,796 with the hole in it. 649 00:40:19,831 --> 00:40:22,903 And he calls me and I'm at my desk, 650 00:40:22,937 --> 00:40:29,565 and he says, "hey, Mark, what do you have on so-and-so?" 651 00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:31,256 Rossini gives his colleague 652 00:40:31,290 --> 00:40:33,603 information about a suspect. 653 00:40:33,638 --> 00:40:38,884 He's careful to conceal details that might be intercepted. 654 00:40:38,919 --> 00:40:40,507 I get a tap on my shoulder. 655 00:40:40,541 --> 00:40:44,131 I had passed CIA information on an undisclosed line to the FBI 656 00:40:44,165 --> 00:40:46,340 without authorization. 657 00:40:46,374 --> 00:40:48,894 And they wanted to remove me from the building that moment, 658 00:40:48,929 --> 00:40:50,482 take me, escort me out of the building, 659 00:40:50,517 --> 00:40:51,794 take my clearances away, 660 00:40:51,828 --> 00:40:55,867 and have me taken out of the building. 661 00:40:55,901 --> 00:41:01,735 I'm calling an FBI agent in the field 662 00:41:01,769 --> 00:41:04,565 Who is investigating an attack, 663 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,705 and you want to shove the rules up my 664 00:41:09,743 --> 00:41:11,710 There's a reason for these turf wars 665 00:41:11,745 --> 00:41:14,299 that goes beyond professional rivalry. 666 00:41:14,333 --> 00:41:16,197 It's known as "the wall"... 667 00:41:16,232 --> 00:41:16,266 It's known as "the wall"... 668 00:41:17,095 --> 00:41:18,579 An American policy that prohibits 669 00:41:18,614 --> 00:41:21,582 the passing of information collected by the CIA 670 00:41:21,617 --> 00:41:23,411 in foreign operations 671 00:41:23,446 --> 00:41:26,380 to the FBI, whose role is to build a case 672 00:41:26,414 --> 00:41:30,418 on evidence that can be brought before a U.S. court. 673 00:41:32,213 --> 00:41:33,836 Then they made me sign a document 674 00:41:33,870 --> 00:41:37,011 that said that I cannot tell the FBI anything 675 00:41:37,046 --> 00:41:39,220 about what I learned in the CIA 676 00:41:39,255 --> 00:41:42,914 without written explicit permission from the CIA. 677 00:41:42,948 --> 00:41:46,607 I could not utter it, I could not e-mail it, 678 00:41:46,642 --> 00:41:48,575 I could not even say it in a passing conversation, 679 00:41:48,609 --> 00:41:51,094 anything I learned in the CIA when I was working there. 680 00:41:53,234 --> 00:41:55,340 Bin Laden's challenge to America 681 00:41:55,374 --> 00:42:00,310 is exposing basic dilemmas at the heart of a democracy... 682 00:42:00,345 --> 00:42:05,868 Protecting individual Liberty is weakening its defenses. 683 00:42:05,902 --> 00:42:09,872 The terrorist target is a peculiar blend 684 00:42:09,906 --> 00:42:12,426 of foreign and domestic, 685 00:42:12,460 --> 00:42:17,396 of law enforcement and intelligence-based information. 686 00:42:17,431 --> 00:42:19,606 We, historically, in the United States 687 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,435 have built up an approach 688 00:42:21,469 --> 00:42:23,506 that we're going to protect our liberties 689 00:42:23,541 --> 00:42:26,682 by keeping those Intel guys at the CIA 690 00:42:26,716 --> 00:42:30,617 away from these law enforcement guys. 691 00:42:30,651 --> 00:42:32,826 Now we were playing against an adversary 692 00:42:32,860 --> 00:42:34,517 who could only be defeated 693 00:42:34,552 --> 00:42:37,106 if we blended those streams of information. 694 00:42:41,904 --> 00:42:44,251 I, George Walker bush, do solemnly swear 695 00:42:44,285 --> 00:42:46,184 that I will faithfully execute the office 696 00:42:46,218 --> 00:42:48,255 of president of the United States. 697 00:42:48,289 --> 00:42:51,534 Three months after the attack on the U.S.S. Cole, 698 00:42:51,569 --> 00:42:53,329 George W. Bush is sworn in 699 00:42:53,363 --> 00:42:56,539 as 43rd president of the United States. 700 00:42:56,574 --> 00:42:58,403 So help me god. 701 00:43:02,683 --> 00:43:05,168 Outgoing President Clinton tells bush 702 00:43:05,203 --> 00:43:08,586 that terrorism will be his top priority. 703 00:43:11,036 --> 00:43:12,866 But for the new administration, 704 00:43:12,900 --> 00:43:18,423 Bin Laden and the threat of Al Qaeda seem less urgent. 705 00:43:18,457 --> 00:43:19,804 Remember, the word "terrorism" 706 00:43:19,838 --> 00:43:22,841 was not even in the president's inaugural address. 707 00:43:22,876 --> 00:43:25,637 They were concerned about ballistic missile defense. 708 00:43:25,672 --> 00:43:31,643 And terrorism was not very well understood. 709 00:43:31,678 --> 00:43:33,818 The most disturbing thing 710 00:43:33,852 --> 00:43:36,096 was the national security advisor saying, 711 00:43:36,130 --> 00:43:39,893 you know, "I worked in the white house eight years ago, 712 00:43:39,927 --> 00:43:42,861 and we didn't have this big counter-terrorism office 713 00:43:42,896 --> 00:43:44,622 that you run now. 714 00:43:44,656 --> 00:43:47,970 Why is it here?" 715 00:43:48,004 --> 00:43:51,974 They had missed the growth of this new set of threats. 716 00:43:58,118 --> 00:44:01,052 In 2000, a new stealth technology 717 00:44:01,086 --> 00:44:04,814 enters the hunt for Bin Laden... The predator drone... 718 00:44:04,849 --> 00:44:09,923 A pilotless spy plane controlled from thousands of miles away. 719 00:44:13,409 --> 00:44:16,136 At last there is the prospect of spotting 720 00:44:16,170 --> 00:44:20,588 America’s most wanted man in time to take action. 721 00:44:22,314 --> 00:44:27,734 With the predator, we could look in real time 722 00:44:27,768 --> 00:44:31,703 at a target in Afghanistan. 723 00:44:31,738 --> 00:44:32,946 And we could look, 724 00:44:32,980 --> 00:44:36,052 and actually on one occasion, see Bin Laden. 725 00:44:39,297 --> 00:44:41,782 Bin Laden may occasionally be visible, 726 00:44:41,817 --> 00:44:44,509 but he remains out of reach. 727 00:44:48,064 --> 00:44:51,619 In 2001, the hunters grow more alarmed 728 00:44:51,654 --> 00:44:53,552 as the drumbeat intensifies 729 00:44:53,587 --> 00:44:58,212 of threats from Al Qaeda and Bin Laden. 730 00:44:58,247 --> 00:45:01,146 As we approached the summer of 2001, 731 00:45:01,181 --> 00:45:04,529 the spike in intelligence we collected, 732 00:45:04,563 --> 00:45:10,362 the volume, the accuracy, as well as the stridency, 733 00:45:10,397 --> 00:45:13,055 kept going up and up and up. 734 00:45:13,089 --> 00:45:15,713 Al Qaeda was stepping up its tempo, 735 00:45:15,747 --> 00:45:17,715 it was getting bigger, 736 00:45:17,749 --> 00:45:19,613 it was getting more muscular, 737 00:45:19,647 --> 00:45:23,686 it could pull off attacks all around the world simultaneously. 738 00:45:26,862 --> 00:45:29,036 I went to brief my boss, 739 00:45:29,071 --> 00:45:30,382 and it was his determination 740 00:45:30,417 --> 00:45:32,315 that we go to the white house immediately. 741 00:45:32,350 --> 00:45:33,696 You know in the movies, where you pick up the phone 742 00:45:33,731 --> 00:45:35,353 and call the white house, "we're coming over." 743 00:45:35,387 --> 00:45:38,459 It was the first time he'd ever done it. 744 00:45:38,494 --> 00:45:41,221 I do not think I have participated 745 00:45:41,255 --> 00:45:45,812 in a more forceful, more specific, 746 00:45:45,846 --> 00:45:49,229 more well sourced, clear briefing of the threat picture 747 00:45:49,263 --> 00:45:52,439 that the United States faces. 748 00:45:52,473 --> 00:45:54,682 August 6th. 749 00:45:54,717 --> 00:45:57,168 The president's daily briefing is headed, 750 00:45:57,202 --> 00:46:00,827 "Bin Laden determined to strike in U.S." 751 00:46:04,037 --> 00:46:07,488 September 9th, Ahmed shah massoud, 752 00:46:07,523 --> 00:46:10,698 America’s crucial ally in the hunt for Bin Laden 753 00:46:10,733 --> 00:46:14,841 is assassinated in an Al Qaeda suicide attack. 754 00:46:16,739 --> 00:46:18,499 Two Arabs came, 755 00:46:18,534 --> 00:46:20,398 pretending they were journalists, 756 00:46:20,432 --> 00:46:24,678 I was there with him, two, three, four people 757 00:46:24,712 --> 00:46:30,373 with the camera, and the man had all bombs. 758 00:46:33,756 --> 00:46:37,553 And in five minutes, he was out of this world. 759 00:46:37,587 --> 00:46:38,796 I thought, oh, my god, 760 00:46:38,830 --> 00:46:41,937 this is, you know, a disaster for the country, 761 00:46:41,971 --> 00:46:44,940 it's a disaster for us, the U.S. 762 00:46:47,390 --> 00:46:49,945 That same day, September 9th, 763 00:46:49,979 --> 00:46:52,533 the 9/11 hijackers' leader, Mohammed Atta, 764 00:46:52,568 --> 00:46:54,742 writes to his team, 765 00:46:54,777 --> 00:46:58,470 "you are on your way to everlasting paradise." 766 00:47:10,586 --> 00:47:12,830 The phone rang. "Bad news chief." 767 00:47:12,864 --> 00:47:15,384 We just had a plane crash into an upper floor 768 00:47:15,418 --> 00:47:17,455 of the world trade center. 769 00:47:17,489 --> 00:47:21,597 At that instant, I thought this could be the start. 770 00:47:21,631 --> 00:47:24,462 It's just a huge explosion. 771 00:47:24,496 --> 00:47:27,120 And then the second plane hit. 772 00:47:34,127 --> 00:47:35,922 The hair on the back of my neck stood up, 773 00:47:35,956 --> 00:47:38,027 and I knew then, this is a terrorist attack. 774 00:47:38,062 --> 00:47:39,477 This is Bin Laden. 775 00:47:39,511 --> 00:47:40,788 Mayday, mayday! 776 00:47:40,823 --> 00:47:45,276 There's another plane hit the second tower, okay. 777 00:47:45,310 --> 00:47:47,934 Everybody in the room said "Bin Laden." 778 00:48:01,050 --> 00:48:05,434 B-3, a major collapse in one of the towers. 779 00:48:05,468 --> 00:48:07,608 What we all thought on 9/11 was, 780 00:48:07,643 --> 00:48:10,611 in some very large extent, we'd failed. 781 00:48:18,965 --> 00:48:20,759 In the back of our minds that day, 782 00:48:20,794 --> 00:48:28,595 and certainly thereafter, was a sense of desperation in a way, 783 00:48:28,629 --> 00:48:32,081 a sense that this didn't have to be. 784 00:48:42,298 --> 00:48:45,646 It was because of the imperfections 785 00:48:45,681 --> 00:48:48,960 of the American government. 786 00:48:48,995 --> 00:48:52,550 The government had been unable to take in information, 787 00:48:52,584 --> 00:48:55,553 process it, and act on it, 788 00:48:55,587 --> 00:48:58,521 and because it had been unable to do that, 789 00:48:58,556 --> 00:49:03,664 this awful event, that was avoidable, 790 00:49:03,699 --> 00:49:05,149 had happened. 791 00:49:11,534 --> 00:49:13,985 The fact that we had seen it coming 792 00:49:14,020 --> 00:49:15,745 made it all the more painful. 793 00:49:25,065 --> 00:49:28,103 For the investigators who have been pursuing Bin Laden 794 00:49:28,137 --> 00:49:30,070 for almost a decade, 795 00:49:30,105 --> 00:49:34,557 the tragedy of 9/11 raises anguished questions. 796 00:49:34,592 --> 00:49:39,769 I was really kind of, what did we miss? 797 00:49:39,804 --> 00:49:42,634 What did we miss? 798 00:49:42,669 --> 00:49:46,086 Ali soufan is finally allowed to see evidence 799 00:49:46,121 --> 00:49:48,226 linked to the 9/11 hijackers 800 00:49:48,261 --> 00:49:52,437 that has been held until now by the CIA. 801 00:49:52,472 --> 00:49:54,439 It's basically information 802 00:49:54,474 --> 00:49:58,374 that we had been asking for since November of 2000. 803 00:50:01,205 --> 00:50:03,310 Then I start reading a report, 804 00:50:03,345 --> 00:50:07,797 and I...I'm like, you have to be kidding me. 805 00:50:10,490 --> 00:50:14,459 I remember I just ran from that office 806 00:50:14,494 --> 00:50:18,084 to a bathroom in the hallway. 807 00:50:18,118 --> 00:50:21,121 And I just threw up. 808 00:50:21,156 --> 00:50:23,710 Soufan discovers that the identities 809 00:50:23,744 --> 00:50:26,161 of two of the 9/11 hijackers, 810 00:50:26,195 --> 00:50:28,784 and the fact that they had arrived in America, 811 00:50:28,818 --> 00:50:33,306 have been known by the CIA since the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole 812 00:50:33,340 --> 00:50:38,000 but not released to the FBI. 813 00:50:38,035 --> 00:50:40,071 It's the culmination of divisions 814 00:50:40,106 --> 00:50:43,764 that have so damaged the hunt for Bin Laden. 815 00:50:43,799 --> 00:50:49,425 I still don't understand why the information was not passed. 816 00:50:49,460 --> 00:50:52,842 I still don't understand why our requests 817 00:50:52,877 --> 00:50:55,362 were repeatedly ignored. 818 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,022 I don't understand it. 819 00:51:00,057 --> 00:51:02,818 I...I don't know. 820 00:51:04,095 --> 00:51:06,442 I do think that we could have been 821 00:51:06,477 --> 00:51:08,099 right in the middle of that conspiracy 822 00:51:08,134 --> 00:51:15,141 if we had, if several people had done what I see to be their job. 823 00:51:15,175 --> 00:51:17,936 If information was shared, 824 00:51:17,971 --> 00:51:21,388 9/11 could have been intercepted. 825 00:51:30,639 --> 00:51:34,021 On September 14, 2001, 826 00:51:34,056 --> 00:51:38,647 president bush comes to ground zero. 827 00:51:38,681 --> 00:51:42,444 I can hear you, the rest of the world hears you, 828 00:51:42,478 --> 00:51:45,067 and the people... 829 00:51:47,173 --> 00:51:50,555 And the people who knocked these buildings down 830 00:51:50,590 --> 00:51:52,971 will hear all of us soon. 831 00:51:56,423 --> 00:52:00,496 USA! USA! USA! 832 00:52:00,531 --> 00:52:03,430 Four days after the 9/11 attacks, 833 00:52:03,465 --> 00:52:05,777 president bush summons his top officials 834 00:52:05,812 --> 00:52:09,678 to plan the nation's response. 835 00:52:09,712 --> 00:52:11,852 We went out to camp David for a discussion 836 00:52:11,887 --> 00:52:16,305 on carrying out some type of a military operation 837 00:52:16,340 --> 00:52:20,516 against the Taliban and Bin Laden in Afghanistan. 838 00:52:20,551 --> 00:52:22,760 But in the middle of all this discussion, 839 00:52:22,794 --> 00:52:24,693 we get a chiming in from, 840 00:52:24,727 --> 00:52:26,453 I think it was secretary Wolfowitz, 841 00:52:26,488 --> 00:52:28,421 about going after Iraq, 842 00:52:28,455 --> 00:52:31,941 and that we ought to make this part of our plan, as well. 843 00:52:31,976 --> 00:52:34,806 And the president said, "let's wait on that, hold that, 844 00:52:34,841 --> 00:52:36,222 we're not going to do that." 845 00:52:36,256 --> 00:52:37,637 Gets a little bit irritated, 846 00:52:37,671 --> 00:52:41,019 and I call it firing a high explosive round 847 00:52:41,054 --> 00:52:43,643 across the table into Wolfowitz' chest, 848 00:52:43,677 --> 00:52:45,127 saying, forget it, 849 00:52:45,162 --> 00:52:48,095 we're going to concentrate on the real enemy right now, 850 00:52:48,130 --> 00:52:50,477 which is the Taliban and Bin Laden. 851 00:52:50,512 --> 00:52:53,239 And if he thinks he can hide and run 852 00:52:53,273 --> 00:52:55,448 from the United States and our allies, 853 00:52:55,482 --> 00:52:57,622 he will be sorely mistaken. 854 00:53:00,522 --> 00:53:05,389 From now on, the hunt for Bin Laden is a war. 855 00:53:05,423 --> 00:53:07,943 A new law, the patriot act, 856 00:53:07,977 --> 00:53:11,843 will require all agencies to share information. 857 00:53:14,674 --> 00:53:18,609 President bush agrees to adopt a CIA plan. 858 00:53:18,643 --> 00:53:22,785 CIA paramilitaries will link up with anti-Taliban guerrillas 859 00:53:22,820 --> 00:53:25,202 of the northern alliance. 860 00:53:27,756 --> 00:53:31,829 CIA veteran Gary schroen finds his life transformed 861 00:53:31,863 --> 00:53:36,385 by president bush's promise to pursue Bin Laden. 862 00:53:36,420 --> 00:53:38,801 I went home on 9/11 863 00:53:38,836 --> 00:53:41,079 thinking that here I was retiring, 864 00:53:41,114 --> 00:53:43,116 and that I would, you know, miss this fight 865 00:53:43,150 --> 00:53:47,327 that I had, in a sense, been already fighting for years, 866 00:53:47,362 --> 00:53:48,984 that I was going to miss it. 867 00:53:49,018 --> 00:53:51,849 I got a call saying, "come in to the office," 868 00:53:51,883 --> 00:53:55,646 and I met Cofer black, who said, "we want you to take a team in 869 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,545 and link up with the northern alliance," 870 00:53:58,580 --> 00:54:00,823 and I said, "thank you very much, 871 00:54:00,858 --> 00:54:03,136 I will be happy to do that." 872 00:54:03,170 --> 00:54:05,345 And so out of everybody in the country 873 00:54:05,380 --> 00:54:06,967 who wanted to do something, 874 00:54:07,002 --> 00:54:11,731 I was the guy picked to start this, you know, the fight back. 875 00:54:14,837 --> 00:54:20,291 Cofer told the president that you're going to get this guy. 876 00:54:20,326 --> 00:54:26,677 He said, "ultimately, I want you to find Bin Laden, kill him, 877 00:54:26,711 --> 00:54:29,611 and cut off his head, put it on dry ice, 878 00:54:29,645 --> 00:54:31,371 and ship it back to me, 879 00:54:31,406 --> 00:54:34,201 and I am going to take it down and show the president. 880 00:54:34,236 --> 00:54:37,308 And the other guys, kill them, cut off their heads, 881 00:54:37,343 --> 00:54:39,379 and put them on pikes." 882 00:54:39,414 --> 00:54:43,694 And I said, "well, that's about as clear an order 883 00:54:43,728 --> 00:54:46,904 as I've ever gotten in the organization." 884 00:54:46,938 --> 00:54:51,080 And I said, "well, pikes we can probably improvise, 885 00:54:51,115 --> 00:54:52,012 but I don't know what we're going to do 886 00:54:52,047 --> 00:54:54,118 about dry ice, cofer." 887 00:54:55,878 --> 00:54:57,708 Arriving in Afghanistan, 888 00:54:57,742 --> 00:54:59,917 schroen contacts the man closest 889 00:54:59,951 --> 00:55:05,025 to America’s murdered northern alliance ally, massoud khalili. 890 00:55:05,060 --> 00:55:08,753 And I said, "Gary, thank you for coming, 891 00:55:08,788 --> 00:55:11,687 but you're late... I lost my friend." 892 00:55:14,828 --> 00:55:17,279 In the mountains of northern Afghanistan, 893 00:55:17,314 --> 00:55:21,318 the CIA's jawbreaker team is ready to spearhead 894 00:55:21,352 --> 00:55:25,114 the hunt for Bin Laden. 895 00:55:25,149 --> 00:55:27,324 We sent the first communication back 896 00:55:27,358 --> 00:55:31,604 that said jawbreaker's in place, and we're open for business. 897 00:55:33,571 --> 00:55:36,367 For the jawbreaker team, "business" includes 898 00:55:36,402 --> 00:55:38,714 handing out bags full of dollar bills 899 00:55:38,749 --> 00:55:42,304 to win the support of their northern alliance partners. 900 00:55:42,339 --> 00:55:46,377 The main motivation for them is money. 901 00:55:46,412 --> 00:55:48,379 It's like a suitcase full of money 902 00:55:48,414 --> 00:55:51,589 or a duffel bag full of money that you had to tote around 903 00:55:51,624 --> 00:55:56,629 or drive around in a truck and pass 'em over to them. 904 00:55:56,663 --> 00:55:58,285 What the CIA brought to it 905 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,772 was the knowledge of the terrain and the people, 906 00:56:01,806 --> 00:56:07,778 and to provide inducements to tribals to work with us. 907 00:56:07,812 --> 00:56:09,745 What the military was able to provide 908 00:56:09,780 --> 00:56:11,954 was lethal power that we did not have, 909 00:56:11,989 --> 00:56:13,853 with the capacity of special forces, 910 00:56:13,887 --> 00:56:16,269 to direct very lethal weaponry 911 00:56:16,303 --> 00:56:18,547 on to targets that we could identify. 912 00:56:23,621 --> 00:56:27,314 The Taliban refuse to hand over Bin Laden. 913 00:56:31,146 --> 00:56:32,768 On October 7th, 914 00:56:32,803 --> 00:56:36,841 America begins the bombing of Taliban-controlled Kabul. 915 00:56:41,570 --> 00:56:45,263 We couldn't actually see Kabul from where we were at, 916 00:56:45,298 --> 00:56:47,127 but you could see the bomb flashes 917 00:56:47,162 --> 00:56:50,683 on the underside of the clouds. 918 00:56:50,717 --> 00:56:52,478 We'd just put up a satellite dish 919 00:56:52,512 --> 00:56:55,342 that the guys had built from scratch. 920 00:56:55,377 --> 00:56:57,068 CNN comes on, and they turn it up, 921 00:56:57,103 --> 00:56:59,519 and it's like, "bombing has started in Kabul." 922 00:56:59,554 --> 00:57:01,141 It was like, oh, well, this is great, 923 00:57:01,176 --> 00:57:04,041 let's go down and watch it on CNN where we can see it better. 924 00:57:04,075 --> 00:57:06,768 So modern war, it's really great. 925 00:57:10,979 --> 00:57:12,359 On the same day, 926 00:57:12,394 --> 00:57:15,742 a pre-recorded statement by Bin Laden is released. 927 00:57:15,777 --> 00:57:20,713 He supports the 9/11 attacks, without claiming responsibility. 928 00:57:42,873 --> 00:57:46,152 After five weeks of intensive American bombing, 929 00:57:46,186 --> 00:57:50,294 the northern alliance takes Kabul on November 14th. 930 00:57:51,364 --> 00:57:53,504 But for Bin Laden's pursuers, 931 00:57:53,539 --> 00:57:57,474 there's only a faint hope he'll still be there. 932 00:58:00,684 --> 00:58:02,962 By the time Kabul fell, 933 00:58:02,996 --> 00:58:05,758 I'm convinced Bin Laden was long gone. 934 00:58:05,792 --> 00:58:07,794 I think he read the handwriting on the wall 935 00:58:07,829 --> 00:58:09,555 and said, "I've got to get out of here," 936 00:58:09,589 --> 00:58:11,902 and had headed for Tora Bora. 937 00:58:11,936 --> 00:58:14,318 In early December 2001, 938 00:58:14,352 --> 00:58:18,667 the hunt for Bin Laden shifts to the mountains of Tora Bora. 939 00:58:18,702 --> 00:58:21,567 Just a few miles from the border with Pakistan, 940 00:58:21,601 --> 00:58:24,846 it's a daunting area of narrow valleys and peaks 941 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,194 reaching up to 14,000 feet. 942 00:58:28,228 --> 00:58:31,231 Bin Laden seems boxed in. 943 00:58:31,266 --> 00:58:35,684 Will this be his last stand? 944 00:58:35,719 --> 00:58:37,824 Tora Bora was a place he knew well, 945 00:58:37,859 --> 00:58:41,276 and back in the jihad days, I think he had a cave system, 946 00:58:41,310 --> 00:58:43,140 so he took shelter there. 947 00:58:43,174 --> 00:58:44,590 It's really going to be hard for anybody 948 00:58:44,624 --> 00:58:48,179 to come and get Bin Laden in there. 949 00:58:48,214 --> 00:58:51,597 Tora Bora will become the most controversial episode 950 00:58:51,631 --> 00:58:56,256 in the long pursuit of Bin Laden. 951 00:58:56,291 --> 00:58:59,639 Three years after the event, general Tommy Franks, 952 00:58:59,674 --> 00:59:03,643 commander of American operations in Afghanistan, will say, 953 00:59:03,678 --> 00:59:09,580 "we don't know to this day if Mr. Bin Laden was at Tora Bora," 954 00:59:09,615 --> 00:59:12,928 but the men on the ground are sure. 955 00:59:12,963 --> 00:59:16,622 Gary Berntsen, a senior CIA paramilitary commander 956 00:59:16,656 --> 00:59:19,970 replaces his old colleague Gary schroen 957 00:59:20,004 --> 00:59:25,354 as the jawbreaker unit's top man in the hunt for Bin Laden. 958 00:59:25,389 --> 00:59:26,563 We knew he was there. 959 00:59:26,597 --> 00:59:29,496 We had enough human intelligence 960 00:59:29,531 --> 00:59:32,672 that had tracked him all along that we knew where he was. 961 00:59:32,707 --> 00:59:36,400 There was absolutely no question at all. 962 00:59:36,434 --> 00:59:40,059 America's most senior general also knows 963 00:59:40,093 --> 00:59:42,820 that this is a decisive moment. 964 00:59:42,855 --> 00:59:45,616 Hey, we think we've got a chance to go after Bin Laden 965 00:59:45,651 --> 00:59:48,274 and some of his folks held up in the hills, 966 00:59:48,308 --> 00:59:52,796 this place in the mountains, this place we call Tora Bora. 967 00:59:52,830 --> 00:59:55,902 Bin Laden's hunters seem tantalizingly close 968 00:59:55,937 --> 00:59:57,421 to their prey. 969 00:59:57,455 --> 01:00:00,389 But even before the operation begins, 970 01:00:00,424 --> 01:00:04,290 senior CIA officials in Washington are alarmed 971 01:00:04,324 --> 01:00:07,707 about the lack of troops on the ground in Tora Bora 972 01:00:07,742 --> 01:00:12,781 to support a small unit of delta special forces. 973 01:00:12,816 --> 01:00:17,061 Berntsen is told CIA chiefs are going to the white house 974 01:00:17,096 --> 01:00:21,272 to request ranger light infantry troops. 975 01:00:21,307 --> 01:00:22,239 They spoke to the president, 976 01:00:22,273 --> 01:00:24,206 the vice president and Rumsfeld, 977 01:00:24,241 --> 01:00:27,347 and said, "we need more forces, we need 800 rangers." 978 01:00:27,382 --> 01:00:29,798 And Rumsfeld's response was, 979 01:00:29,833 --> 01:00:32,559 "no, the Pakistanis will cover the back side, 980 01:00:32,594 --> 01:00:35,114 and we're using delta force." 981 01:00:35,148 --> 01:00:38,980 General Franks also rejects the CIA request 982 01:00:39,014 --> 01:00:42,190 to deploy ranger forces. 983 01:00:42,224 --> 01:00:45,089 He insists that helicopters would have great difficulty 984 01:00:45,124 --> 01:00:48,783 landing rangers in Tora Bora. 985 01:00:48,817 --> 01:00:52,131 He's also been told by Pakistan's president Musharraf 986 01:00:52,165 --> 01:00:54,685 that his frontier guards can block escape routes 987 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,240 across the border. 988 01:01:03,970 --> 01:01:05,834 But the murder of commander massoud 989 01:01:05,869 --> 01:01:11,184 means the CIA has lost a crucial ally. 990 01:01:11,219 --> 01:01:13,462 They hire two minor warlords, 991 01:01:13,497 --> 01:01:16,224 a former Taliban and a drug smuggler, 992 01:01:16,258 --> 01:01:21,160 who bring around 2,000 of their fighters to pursue Bin Laden. 993 01:01:21,194 --> 01:01:25,716 He has more than 1,000 Al Qaeda protectors. 994 01:01:25,751 --> 01:01:27,304 There are fewer than 100 995 01:01:27,338 --> 01:01:30,548 American and British special forces. 996 01:01:32,999 --> 01:01:36,900 It soon becomes evident that they and the Afghan mercenaries 997 01:01:36,934 --> 01:01:40,110 are stretched very thin. 998 01:01:40,144 --> 01:01:42,250 What could we do to continue the fight? 999 01:01:42,284 --> 01:01:45,805 And as we worked our way through the ability or inability 1000 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,566 to get American troops on the ground, 1001 01:01:48,601 --> 01:01:50,154 it really transpired that 1002 01:01:50,189 --> 01:01:52,674 the only response that we could make were with bombs. 1003 01:02:04,134 --> 01:02:05,549 In early December, 1004 01:02:05,583 --> 01:02:10,278 as many as 100 airstrikes a day saturate Tora Bora with bombs. 1005 01:02:17,250 --> 01:02:19,563 In sight of Al Qaeda snipers, 1006 01:02:19,597 --> 01:02:24,395 special forces highlight the targets with lasers. 1007 01:02:24,430 --> 01:02:27,813 Very risky. 1008 01:02:27,847 --> 01:02:29,815 They will paint an object with a laser, 1009 01:02:29,849 --> 01:02:31,748 and a plane will throw an explosive out, 1010 01:02:31,782 --> 01:02:34,336 and it will catch and ride the light into the target. 1011 01:02:37,512 --> 01:02:39,686 As people are doing this, and very bravely, 1012 01:02:39,721 --> 01:02:43,449 they are exposed. 1013 01:02:43,483 --> 01:02:47,108 The U.S. military air capability 1014 01:02:47,142 --> 01:02:50,076 just pummeled the Tora Bora area. 1015 01:02:50,111 --> 01:02:53,666 I mean, they couldn't have dropped any more bombs. 1016 01:02:58,050 --> 01:02:59,499 On December 9th, 1017 01:02:59,534 --> 01:03:03,814 America drops a 15,000-pound Daisy cutter, 1018 01:03:03,849 --> 01:03:07,576 the most powerful non-nuclear bomb on earth, 1019 01:03:07,611 --> 01:03:11,511 last used in Vietnam. 1020 01:03:11,546 --> 01:03:13,962 The impact is unclear. 1021 01:03:13,997 --> 01:03:15,826 But on a captured radio, 1022 01:03:15,861 --> 01:03:20,141 Bin Laden is heard urging his men to fight on. 1023 01:03:20,175 --> 01:03:23,144 And the uneasy alliance between the allied pursuers 1024 01:03:23,178 --> 01:03:27,873 and their local fighters is not going well. 1025 01:03:27,907 --> 01:03:28,977 You have limited forces, 1026 01:03:29,012 --> 01:03:31,014 and you have to count on indigenous forces 1027 01:03:31,048 --> 01:03:33,879 that are more or less reliable. 1028 01:03:33,913 --> 01:03:35,915 Some are reliable, some are not going to fight. 1029 01:03:35,950 --> 01:03:38,366 Some may fight for a while and decide to do something else. 1030 01:03:45,683 --> 01:03:48,479 On December 10th, special forces report 1031 01:03:48,514 --> 01:03:51,103 that they may have spotted Bin Laden. 1032 01:03:55,141 --> 01:03:59,111 But the Afghan commander hired to support them retreats, 1033 01:03:59,145 --> 01:04:02,355 and his fighters flee under Al Qaeda fire. 1034 01:04:04,254 --> 01:04:07,119 The handful of American and British special forces 1035 01:04:07,153 --> 01:04:11,192 are left alone in Al Qaeda territory. 1036 01:04:11,226 --> 01:04:13,642 There were no more than 60 Americans 1037 01:04:13,677 --> 01:04:15,437 fighting down in Tora Bora. 1038 01:04:18,164 --> 01:04:23,652 Bin Laden fled with about 1,000 into those mountains. 1039 01:04:23,687 --> 01:04:27,622 There were more journalists than there were U.S. forces there. 1040 01:04:27,656 --> 01:04:30,659 We killed the translator. We killed the translator. 1041 01:04:30,694 --> 01:04:33,455 And the challenge was how to do all of this 1042 01:04:33,490 --> 01:04:37,356 before he got out. 1043 01:04:37,390 --> 01:04:39,047 Despite their limited numbers, 1044 01:04:39,082 --> 01:04:43,120 a delta force video camera records Bin Laden's pursuers 1045 01:04:43,155 --> 01:04:45,985 closing in on the main Al Qaeda base. 1046 01:04:49,678 --> 01:04:52,923 Special forces monitor a Bin Laden radio message 1047 01:04:52,958 --> 01:04:55,305 saying he has let his men down, 1048 01:04:55,339 --> 01:04:59,274 and that they are permitted to surrender. 1049 01:04:59,309 --> 01:05:01,828 We had Bin Laden on intercept on the radio, 1050 01:05:01,863 --> 01:05:05,591 you know praying, apologizing, dejected... 1051 01:05:08,594 --> 01:05:10,837 Telling his people he was sorry he'd led them in this trap 1052 01:05:10,872 --> 01:05:15,118 and that the suffering that they were having. 1053 01:05:15,152 --> 01:05:17,396 And of course, we kept it up, kept it up, kept it up, 1054 01:05:17,430 --> 01:05:19,743 kept at him, trying to end it. 1055 01:05:22,953 --> 01:05:25,093 One of the warlords supporting the Americans 1056 01:05:25,128 --> 01:05:27,371 demands a ceasefire 1057 01:05:27,406 --> 01:05:31,720 to allow Al Qaeda fighters to give themselves up. 1058 01:05:31,755 --> 01:05:33,653 The Americans fear a trick, 1059 01:05:33,688 --> 01:05:38,210 but are compelled to pause their operations. 1060 01:05:38,244 --> 01:05:41,144 Around 800 Al Qaeda disappear in the night 1061 01:05:41,178 --> 01:05:45,838 across the border into the wild northwest of Pakistan, 1062 01:05:45,872 --> 01:05:48,358 a frontier region of rival factions 1063 01:05:48,392 --> 01:05:50,981 with unlimited places to hide. 1064 01:05:54,571 --> 01:05:56,987 The Pakistanis put some troops 1065 01:05:57,022 --> 01:05:59,162 to capture those that were escaping. 1066 01:05:59,196 --> 01:06:01,060 And they did, at some point, manage to capture 1067 01:06:01,095 --> 01:06:04,063 in excess of 100 coming out of Tora Bora. 1068 01:06:04,098 --> 01:06:07,446 But then miraculously, within a very short period of time, 1069 01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,966 all of those managed to escape. 1070 01:06:13,659 --> 01:06:14,625 If we'd had more troops, 1071 01:06:14,660 --> 01:06:15,799 we might have been more successful. 1072 01:06:15,833 --> 01:06:17,249 But we didn't. 1073 01:06:17,283 --> 01:06:20,493 I went in with eight men initially, 1074 01:06:20,528 --> 01:06:25,291 and there were 1,000 Al Qaeda in that area. 1075 01:06:25,326 --> 01:06:29,088 The problem was this... Working with indigenous forces 1076 01:06:29,123 --> 01:06:32,954 had worked in all other parts of the conflict up to that point. 1077 01:06:32,989 --> 01:06:36,716 We got down to the final piece of killing Bin Laden, 1078 01:06:36,751 --> 01:06:38,684 and we needed to do that on our own. 1079 01:06:41,859 --> 01:06:44,724 One day in mid December 2001 1080 01:06:44,759 --> 01:06:47,589 osama Bin Laden walks out of Tora Bora 1081 01:06:47,624 --> 01:06:50,351 and disappears into Pakistan. 1082 01:06:58,462 --> 01:07:02,087 His pursuers are left to explore his abandoned caves 1083 01:07:02,121 --> 01:07:05,124 and reflect on why his extraordinary escape 1084 01:07:05,159 --> 01:07:07,506 was ever allowed. 1085 01:07:15,893 --> 01:07:18,758 If I could get a bunch of civilians in there to fight, 1086 01:07:18,793 --> 01:07:20,967 I figured that the secretary of defense 1087 01:07:21,002 --> 01:07:22,762 could get some rangers in there for me. 1088 01:07:26,249 --> 01:07:30,149 I never heard anyone ask for more forces. 1089 01:07:32,462 --> 01:07:35,154 Not one person ever up the chain of command 1090 01:07:35,189 --> 01:07:36,362 ever came to me and said, 1091 01:07:36,397 --> 01:07:41,229 "I've got people asking for more troops." 1092 01:07:41,264 --> 01:07:44,508 Never once did anyone say that there would be any advantage 1093 01:07:44,543 --> 01:07:47,891 in doing that. 1094 01:07:47,925 --> 01:07:51,377 It's very clear that had the military attack plan 1095 01:07:51,412 --> 01:07:54,760 authorized a ranger unit to go up 1096 01:07:54,794 --> 01:07:57,659 and reinforce the special forces, 1097 01:07:57,694 --> 01:07:59,592 we could have not only gotten Bin Laden, 1098 01:07:59,627 --> 01:08:02,837 we could have gotten all the leadership of Al Qaeda 1099 01:08:02,871 --> 01:08:05,426 that was then about to flee into Pakistan. 1100 01:08:05,460 --> 01:08:06,634 And we wouldn't have had to suffer 1101 01:08:06,668 --> 01:08:09,947 the following 10 years of Al Qaeda. 1102 01:08:12,605 --> 01:08:14,745 The questions after Tora Bora, 1103 01:08:14,780 --> 01:08:18,266 from the disputed conversations about American troop levels 1104 01:08:18,301 --> 01:08:20,130 to Pakistan's role, 1105 01:08:20,165 --> 01:08:23,823 remain unanswered to this day. 1106 01:08:23,858 --> 01:08:26,688 Tora Bora was a golden opportunity that was missed. 1107 01:08:26,723 --> 01:08:29,795 The hunt for Bin Laden would have ended, 1108 01:08:29,829 --> 01:08:31,590 would have ended it then. 1109 01:08:45,259 --> 01:08:47,916 After tora Bora, the hunt for Bin Laden 1110 01:08:47,951 --> 01:08:52,783 drifts into a decade of frustration. 1111 01:08:52,818 --> 01:08:58,893 A $27 million reward and a major military operation in 2002 1112 01:08:58,927 --> 01:09:03,449 fail to produce any evidence of the world's most wanted man. 1113 01:09:07,143 --> 01:09:10,318 Faced with uncomfortable questions about Bin Laden, 1114 01:09:10,353 --> 01:09:14,115 the white house downplays his importance. 1115 01:09:14,150 --> 01:09:15,841 George Bush went from saying, 1116 01:09:15,875 --> 01:09:19,776 "I am going to get Bin Laden dead or alive," 1117 01:09:19,810 --> 01:09:22,468 to actually saying, "well, he's not all that important." 1118 01:09:22,503 --> 01:09:23,849 I don't know where he is. 1119 01:09:23,883 --> 01:09:25,851 I just don't spend that much time on him really, 1120 01:09:25,885 --> 01:09:27,093 to be honest with you. 1121 01:09:27,128 --> 01:09:28,371 The reason for that 1122 01:09:28,405 --> 01:09:32,582 was that they had no intelligence on where he was. 1123 01:09:32,616 --> 01:09:35,447 For America’s counter-terrorism specialists, 1124 01:09:35,481 --> 01:09:39,761 Bin Laden remains an agonizing challenge. 1125 01:09:39,796 --> 01:09:41,763 Bin Laden hung over 1126 01:09:41,798 --> 01:09:45,698 the entire counter-terrorism enterprise like a specter. 1127 01:09:45,733 --> 01:09:51,394 There was never a period where counter-terrorism operatives 1128 01:09:51,428 --> 01:09:54,983 stopped looking for trails to get to Bin Laden. 1129 01:09:55,018 --> 01:09:57,331 If you're trying to catch a chicken in the barnyard, 1130 01:09:57,365 --> 01:09:59,712 and you're running after it, are you close? 1131 01:09:59,747 --> 01:10:02,405 Not until you've caught it. And we haven't. 1132 01:10:10,102 --> 01:10:12,104 October 2002. 1133 01:10:12,138 --> 01:10:15,763 The bombing of a nightclub in Bali is a shocking reminder 1134 01:10:15,797 --> 01:10:19,594 that Bin Laden and Al Qaeda are a continuing threat. 1135 01:10:26,843 --> 01:10:30,260 It's only the first of many attacks around the world 1136 01:10:30,295 --> 01:10:32,711 in the years that follow. 1137 01:10:41,340 --> 01:10:44,412 Bin Laden was the galvanizing figure, 1138 01:10:44,447 --> 01:10:46,414 the charismatic character, 1139 01:10:46,449 --> 01:10:50,867 who actually drove, not only the founding of Al Qaeda, 1140 01:10:50,901 --> 01:10:54,284 but its morphing into most corners of the world. 1141 01:11:13,130 --> 01:11:16,410 As Al Qaeda terror spills out around the world, 1142 01:11:16,444 --> 01:11:22,278 Bin Laden remains beyond the reach of his pursuers. 1143 01:11:22,312 --> 01:11:25,384 Bin Laden himself was very good 1144 01:11:25,419 --> 01:11:27,938 in terms of operational security. 1145 01:11:27,973 --> 01:11:33,565 There was no use of electronic media. 1146 01:11:33,599 --> 01:11:36,878 He did everything possible to remain hidden, 1147 01:11:36,913 --> 01:11:39,018 not just from western authorities 1148 01:11:39,053 --> 01:11:40,882 or counter-terrorism officials, 1149 01:11:40,917 --> 01:11:45,266 but also in many ways from his own people. 1150 01:11:45,301 --> 01:11:48,304 Frustratingly, we were not close to finding him. 1151 01:12:01,075 --> 01:12:03,457 Baghdad... 1152 01:12:03,491 --> 01:12:06,322 March 19, 2003. 1153 01:12:06,356 --> 01:12:08,807 The bush administration turns its sights 1154 01:12:08,841 --> 01:12:13,743 towards its long-time enemy, Saddam Hussein and Iraq. 1155 01:12:16,401 --> 01:12:20,577 The invasion distracts attention from the hunt for Bin Laden. 1156 01:12:22,648 --> 01:12:24,409 There's no doubt that the shift to Iraq 1157 01:12:24,443 --> 01:12:29,931 took a lot of the energy out of the effort to capture Bin Laden. 1158 01:12:29,966 --> 01:12:31,174 From the CIA point of view, 1159 01:12:31,208 --> 01:12:32,969 we didn't have enough of our best people 1160 01:12:33,003 --> 01:12:34,798 and most knowledgeable people 1161 01:12:34,833 --> 01:12:36,386 who were engaged in the effort anymore. 1162 01:12:36,421 --> 01:12:40,079 They were being shifted to Iraq. 1163 01:12:40,114 --> 01:12:42,150 There was a sense that 1164 01:12:42,185 --> 01:12:43,393 we weren't looking for Bin Laden anymore, 1165 01:12:43,428 --> 01:12:46,362 that we had lost focus, that we had lost interest. 1166 01:12:48,812 --> 01:12:50,849 Bin Laden continues to taunt America 1167 01:12:50,883 --> 01:12:53,127 with video pronouncements. 1168 01:12:54,956 --> 01:12:59,375 In 2004, he accepts responsibility for 9/11 1169 01:12:59,409 --> 01:13:02,861 and condemns America’s response. 1170 01:13:10,869 --> 01:13:12,595 Frankly, it was very frustrating. 1171 01:13:12,629 --> 01:13:14,942 I mean the president would say to me, "so, Mike, where are we?" 1172 01:13:14,976 --> 01:13:16,426 "Mr. President, nothing new." 1173 01:13:16,461 --> 01:13:19,843 "Well, you are working on it?" "Yes, sir, we really are." 1174 01:13:19,878 --> 01:13:21,535 And I knew exactly what he meant. 1175 01:13:21,569 --> 01:13:23,744 Where are we on the hunt for Bin Laden? 1176 01:13:23,778 --> 01:13:27,230 But the trail was cold. 1177 01:13:27,264 --> 01:13:30,371 When I say the trail was cold, I mean the trail was cold. 1178 01:13:30,406 --> 01:13:33,719 There was a chart that was prepared for the president 1179 01:13:33,754 --> 01:13:36,515 that basically showed Al Qaeda's leadership. 1180 01:13:36,550 --> 01:13:38,759 The president took to keeping that chart, 1181 01:13:38,793 --> 01:13:40,623 because it was a way of keeping track 1182 01:13:40,657 --> 01:13:42,210 of who was still outstanding. 1183 01:13:42,245 --> 01:13:44,558 And he would just Mark off as we went along 1184 01:13:44,592 --> 01:13:47,008 so that he knew who we still had left. 1185 01:13:47,043 --> 01:13:49,252 And of course, the name that was still on there 1186 01:13:49,286 --> 01:13:51,634 with no "x" through it was Bin Laden. 1187 01:13:56,984 --> 01:13:59,400 It's at the Guantanamo detention center 1188 01:13:59,435 --> 01:14:00,919 that the hunt for Bin Laden 1189 01:14:00,953 --> 01:14:03,439 finally makes the crucial breakthrough. 1190 01:14:07,166 --> 01:14:10,238 Interrogations of Al Qaeda suspects suggest 1191 01:14:10,273 --> 01:14:13,552 that a mysterious figure known as "Al Kuwaiti" 1192 01:14:13,587 --> 01:14:16,313 who escaped from tora Bora with Bin Laden 1193 01:14:16,348 --> 01:14:20,697 may be working as his courier. 1194 01:14:20,732 --> 01:14:23,528 Based on information that we'd gotten from detainees, 1195 01:14:23,562 --> 01:14:25,391 folks came in to me in 2007 1196 01:14:25,426 --> 01:14:28,567 and said, "we think we can go after Bin Laden 1197 01:14:28,602 --> 01:14:30,396 by tracing the courier network." 1198 01:14:33,365 --> 01:14:35,332 It had to be a system of couriers 1199 01:14:35,367 --> 01:14:37,369 that was being used in order to effect communications 1200 01:14:37,403 --> 01:14:39,198 between Bin Laden, wherever he was, 1201 01:14:39,233 --> 01:14:40,752 and his organization. 1202 01:14:40,786 --> 01:14:42,547 There had to be some sort of a system 1203 01:14:42,581 --> 01:14:43,996 that would permit him to get 1204 01:14:44,031 --> 01:14:46,412 audio tapes, video tapes, out to his people, 1205 01:14:46,447 --> 01:14:50,693 and maybe engage in a little bit more direct communication 1206 01:14:50,727 --> 01:14:53,489 with members of his own organization. 1207 01:14:53,523 --> 01:14:55,525 Until we got on the trail of the couriers, 1208 01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:59,736 any instinct that we had a lead on Bin Laden, 1209 01:14:59,771 --> 01:15:03,499 in retrospect, looked a lot more like Elvis sightings 1210 01:15:03,533 --> 01:15:05,501 than it does hard intelligence. 1211 01:15:07,917 --> 01:15:10,264 Bin Laden has outlasted a succession 1212 01:15:10,298 --> 01:15:15,580 of American presidents, defying every effort to track him down. 1213 01:15:22,448 --> 01:15:24,347 In October 2008, 1214 01:15:24,381 --> 01:15:27,764 as candidates campaign for the election of a new president, 1215 01:15:27,799 --> 01:15:33,218 Barack Obama puts a special focus on the hunt for Bin Laden. 1216 01:15:33,252 --> 01:15:37,463 If we have osama Bin Laden in our sights, 1217 01:15:37,498 --> 01:15:39,811 then I think that we have to act. 1218 01:15:39,845 --> 01:15:42,779 We will kill Bin Laden, we will crush Al Qaeda. 1219 01:15:42,814 --> 01:15:46,058 That has to be our biggest national security priority. 1220 01:15:46,093 --> 01:15:48,164 He basically said, 1221 01:15:48,198 --> 01:15:51,132 "I want you to go after Bin Laden, 1222 01:15:51,167 --> 01:15:55,171 Bin Laden is number one enemy of this country. 1223 01:15:55,205 --> 01:15:58,346 I want you to find him and to bring him to justice." 1224 01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,183 In the crowded border towns of Pakistan, 1225 01:16:07,217 --> 01:16:09,806 Bin Laden remains a hero. 1226 01:16:15,260 --> 01:16:18,401 For months, intensive electronic investigations 1227 01:16:18,435 --> 01:16:24,718 try to track down any hint of the courier Al Kuwaiti. 1228 01:16:24,752 --> 01:16:27,790 At last, in August 2010, 1229 01:16:27,824 --> 01:16:31,621 an intercepted phone call made by Kuwaiti provides the clue 1230 01:16:31,656 --> 01:16:35,418 Bin Laden's pursuers have been chasing for years. 1231 01:16:36,971 --> 01:16:41,942 "I am working with the people I was with before," he says. 1232 01:16:41,976 --> 01:16:45,946 Now the trail to Bin Laden is opening up. 1233 01:16:45,980 --> 01:16:47,844 There was this very important lead 1234 01:16:47,879 --> 01:16:49,950 with regards to the couriers, 1235 01:16:49,984 --> 01:16:53,574 and almost immediately, it raised great suspicions. 1236 01:16:58,268 --> 01:17:00,063 In August 2010, 1237 01:17:00,098 --> 01:17:03,584 CIA agents spot Al Kuwaiti's car, 1238 01:17:03,619 --> 01:17:07,933 and it's driving in an unexpected direction. 1239 01:17:10,522 --> 01:17:12,524 Rather than heading for the wild territory 1240 01:17:12,558 --> 01:17:14,733 along the border with Afghanistan 1241 01:17:14,768 --> 01:17:19,048 where Bin Laden's pursuers have long suspected him to be hiding, 1242 01:17:19,082 --> 01:17:24,294 Al Kuwaiti heads for Abbottabad, a prosperous regional town 1243 01:17:24,329 --> 01:17:28,022 and the base for a top Pakistani military academy. 1244 01:17:30,093 --> 01:17:33,614 Bin Laden's courier drives to a compound in the town 1245 01:17:33,649 --> 01:17:38,550 where a large three-story house is protected behind high walls. 1246 01:17:40,759 --> 01:17:42,105 My first reaction 1247 01:17:42,140 --> 01:17:44,763 when they described the compound in Abbottabad 1248 01:17:44,798 --> 01:17:50,251 was that we had something very unusual. 1249 01:17:50,286 --> 01:17:52,115 Leon, and a few others, CIA briefers, 1250 01:17:52,150 --> 01:17:54,290 came in and explained to the president 1251 01:17:54,324 --> 01:17:57,603 that we now, we may in fact have identified a location 1252 01:17:57,638 --> 01:17:59,157 where Bin Laden might be holed up. 1253 01:18:02,678 --> 01:18:04,749 CIA agents move into houses 1254 01:18:04,783 --> 01:18:07,372 overlooking the mysterious compound, 1255 01:18:07,406 --> 01:18:11,341 observing how the occupants shun all electronic communications 1256 01:18:11,376 --> 01:18:14,103 and burn their own garbage. 1257 01:18:17,071 --> 01:18:21,386 Even cricket balls hit over the walls are kept and burned. 1258 01:18:23,491 --> 01:18:26,632 The number of people that we saw in the compound 1259 01:18:26,667 --> 01:18:29,118 seemed to match the number of family members 1260 01:18:29,152 --> 01:18:32,984 that might be with Bin Laden. 1261 01:18:33,018 --> 01:18:37,057 We had probably the best clue as to the possibility 1262 01:18:37,091 --> 01:18:42,234 that Bin Laden would be there since tora Bora. 1263 01:18:42,269 --> 01:18:44,340 The president is briefed regularly, 1264 01:18:44,374 --> 01:18:49,448 but all information is tightly controlled. 1265 01:18:49,483 --> 01:18:50,967 The number of people that knew 1266 01:18:51,002 --> 01:18:52,313 about the Bin Laden compound 1267 01:18:52,348 --> 01:18:55,731 was incredibly small for a very long period of time. 1268 01:18:55,765 --> 01:18:58,285 But there were additional precautions taken. 1269 01:18:58,319 --> 01:19:00,874 The topic of the meeting was never listed, 1270 01:19:00,908 --> 01:19:03,704 the cameras that are usually on in the situation room 1271 01:19:03,739 --> 01:19:05,016 were turned off. 1272 01:19:05,050 --> 01:19:07,190 And it kept very tight, 1273 01:19:07,225 --> 01:19:09,952 I think in the neighborhood of, you know, a dozen people 1274 01:19:09,986 --> 01:19:11,781 for a very long time. 1275 01:19:19,685 --> 01:19:22,309 As local agents keep watch over the compound 1276 01:19:22,343 --> 01:19:24,311 for any sign of Bin Laden, 1277 01:19:24,345 --> 01:19:28,039 he is never detected. 1278 01:19:28,073 --> 01:19:29,419 We were hoping that there would be 1279 01:19:29,454 --> 01:19:31,905 more definitive information that Bin Laden was there, 1280 01:19:31,939 --> 01:19:33,803 and we never really got that information. 1281 01:19:33,838 --> 01:19:35,563 Nobody was going to be able to say, "ah-ha, 1282 01:19:35,598 --> 01:19:37,669 we have the piece of evidence that can give us certainty 1283 01:19:37,703 --> 01:19:39,567 that he's there." 1284 01:19:47,990 --> 01:19:49,543 The most wanted man on earth 1285 01:19:49,577 --> 01:19:51,614 remains shut away in his room, 1286 01:19:51,648 --> 01:19:55,618 unaware that his pursuers are tightening the net around him. 1287 01:20:00,485 --> 01:20:04,006 In Washington, the president's advisors begin to explore 1288 01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:09,114 ways of mounting a mission to get Bin Laden once and for all. 1289 01:20:10,115 --> 01:20:11,530 Once the intelligence 1290 01:20:11,565 --> 01:20:13,498 had reached a point where there was at least 1291 01:20:13,532 --> 01:20:17,191 a higher confidence level about the possibility, 1292 01:20:17,226 --> 01:20:23,128 the next question we asked was what should we do operationally? 1293 01:20:23,163 --> 01:20:24,958 The president was the one who said 1294 01:20:24,992 --> 01:20:28,478 start to pull together the options that might be available. 1295 01:20:28,513 --> 01:20:29,755 "I don't want to wait, 1296 01:20:29,790 --> 01:20:31,965 because this could be, in fact, a fleeting target." 1297 01:20:34,726 --> 01:20:37,487 The closer you got to the operation, 1298 01:20:37,522 --> 01:20:39,110 the more you started to contemplate 1299 01:20:39,144 --> 01:20:41,112 all the things that could go wrong. 1300 01:20:42,492 --> 01:20:43,562 The terrible memory 1301 01:20:43,597 --> 01:20:45,944 of the black hawk down disaster in Somalia 1302 01:20:45,979 --> 01:20:48,257 is impossible to avoid. 1303 01:20:51,294 --> 01:20:54,988 So is the failed attempt to rescue U.S. hostages in Iran 1304 01:20:55,022 --> 01:21:01,408 in 1980, which fatally damaged Jimmy Carter's presidency. 1305 01:21:01,442 --> 01:21:02,823 Leon panetta said, "look, 1306 01:21:02,858 --> 01:21:06,206 we've been trying to get this guy for 15, 20 years, okay. 1307 01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,311 We missed him at tora Bora. 1308 01:21:08,346 --> 01:21:10,658 This is clearly the best intelligence we've had 1309 01:21:10,693 --> 01:21:12,419 leading us to Bin Laden since tora Bora. 1310 01:21:12,453 --> 01:21:13,834 We can't make the mistake 1311 01:21:13,869 --> 01:21:16,975 of not going full tilt against it again." 1312 01:21:24,707 --> 01:21:27,227 On march 14, 2011, 1313 01:21:27,261 --> 01:21:29,574 President Obama summons his advisors 1314 01:21:29,608 --> 01:21:32,163 to a meeting in the white house. 1315 01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:36,719 The president went around the table 1316 01:21:36,753 --> 01:21:39,411 and asked every one of his advisors for their advice 1317 01:21:39,446 --> 01:21:44,416 as to whether or not to go into Abbottabad. 1318 01:21:44,451 --> 01:21:47,143 There were essentially three options. 1319 01:21:47,178 --> 01:21:51,941 One option was to go forward with a special forces raid. 1320 01:21:51,976 --> 01:21:56,946 Another option was to take a missile strike at the compound. 1321 01:21:56,981 --> 01:22:00,708 The third option was to wait and try to gather more intelligence. 1322 01:22:04,195 --> 01:22:07,025 The focus ultimately fell on the raid option 1323 01:22:07,060 --> 01:22:10,684 in order to not only be able to go in, 1324 01:22:10,718 --> 01:22:13,894 but to determine whether, in fact, it was Bin Laden. 1325 01:22:17,656 --> 01:22:20,970 Seal team six goes into intensive training 1326 01:22:21,005 --> 01:22:22,351 simulating an attack 1327 01:22:22,385 --> 01:22:25,699 on a replica of the Abbottabad compound. 1328 01:22:28,115 --> 01:22:32,257 The seals still don't know their target. 1329 01:22:32,292 --> 01:22:37,193 But their commanders have chosen his code name...Geronimo. 1330 01:22:43,717 --> 01:22:46,133 The week leading up to the actual operation, 1331 01:22:46,168 --> 01:22:50,448 every day we had meetings in the white house situation room, 1332 01:22:50,482 --> 01:22:53,451 we had meetings with the president. 1333 01:22:53,485 --> 01:22:55,211 It was almost a nonstop effort 1334 01:22:55,246 --> 01:22:57,973 from the morning to late at night. 1335 01:22:58,007 --> 01:23:00,354 Finally, President Obama must make 1336 01:23:00,389 --> 01:23:03,461 a momentous and politically critical decision... 1337 01:23:03,495 --> 01:23:05,981 Go or not go. 1338 01:23:08,259 --> 01:23:09,846 The president said he was going to go back 1339 01:23:09,881 --> 01:23:12,332 and think about it overnight. 1340 01:23:12,366 --> 01:23:17,889 He took this all on himself that night. 1341 01:23:17,923 --> 01:23:21,375 He came down the next morning and said just, "it's a go." 1342 01:23:22,652 --> 01:23:24,240 Please welcome the president 1343 01:23:24,275 --> 01:23:26,484 of the United States of America, 1344 01:23:26,518 --> 01:23:28,762 Barack Obama. 1345 01:23:28,796 --> 01:23:30,074 The night before the raid 1346 01:23:30,108 --> 01:23:32,283 is the annual white house correspondents dinner 1347 01:23:32,317 --> 01:23:33,870 in Washington. 1348 01:23:36,632 --> 01:23:39,531 The president's Bin Laden team has to attend 1349 01:23:39,566 --> 01:23:42,569 to avoid arousing awkward questions. 1350 01:23:44,502 --> 01:23:47,436 If suddenly the seniormost national security officials 1351 01:23:47,470 --> 01:23:49,783 in the government all canceled in unison 1352 01:23:49,817 --> 01:23:52,268 on the people who were supposed to be taking them to this dinner 1353 01:23:52,303 --> 01:23:54,857 who happened to be the most influential journalists in town, 1354 01:23:54,891 --> 01:23:56,376 that would raise suspicions, 1355 01:23:56,410 --> 01:23:58,654 and that would send people chasing information. 1356 01:24:01,795 --> 01:24:03,003 The decision was 1357 01:24:03,038 --> 01:24:06,075 let's just go ahead and play it straight. 1358 01:24:09,285 --> 01:24:10,976 It was very strange to go to that dinner 1359 01:24:11,011 --> 01:24:13,358 and to look at the other people in the room, 1360 01:24:13,393 --> 01:24:14,670 none of whom knew 1361 01:24:14,704 --> 01:24:16,948 this momentous thing was going to happen the next day, 1362 01:24:16,982 --> 01:24:21,435 and to occasionally see somebody who did know, 1363 01:24:21,470 --> 01:24:23,851 you kind of make eye contact, 1364 01:24:23,886 --> 01:24:26,475 and suddenly it hit you like a ton of bricks 1365 01:24:26,509 --> 01:24:27,786 that tomorrow is, you know, 1366 01:24:27,821 --> 01:24:29,961 one of the most important days of your life. 1367 01:24:29,995 --> 01:24:34,138 Meanwhile, you're at this kind of absurd Washington party. 1368 01:24:34,172 --> 01:24:36,761 People think Bin Laden is hiding in the Hindu kush, 1369 01:24:36,795 --> 01:24:38,832 but did you know that every day from 4 to 5 1370 01:24:38,866 --> 01:24:40,799 he hosts a show on c-span? 1371 01:24:44,596 --> 01:24:46,219 But I have to tell you, 1372 01:24:46,253 --> 01:24:49,153 every time somebody made a joke about Bin Laden, 1373 01:24:49,187 --> 01:24:50,671 I couldn't help but think, 1374 01:24:50,706 --> 01:24:54,744 "if only the people in this room know what the hell I know." 1375 01:25:06,031 --> 01:25:09,380 We came in Sunday morning, 1376 01:25:09,414 --> 01:25:13,901 we had to cancel all the tours in the white house. 1377 01:25:13,936 --> 01:25:16,352 We ordered food for the day, 1378 01:25:16,387 --> 01:25:21,633 prepared for several hours in the situation room. 1379 01:25:21,668 --> 01:25:23,911 And then the president joined us, 1380 01:25:23,946 --> 01:25:27,225 and it was a period of such intensity. 1381 01:25:27,260 --> 01:25:30,021 Many parts of that last day are etched on my mind 1382 01:25:30,055 --> 01:25:32,092 and will be forever. 1383 01:25:32,127 --> 01:25:34,163 We waited, and it was very tense, 1384 01:25:34,198 --> 01:25:37,235 because you want to be doing something, 1385 01:25:37,270 --> 01:25:38,443 but we really realized 1386 01:25:38,478 --> 01:25:41,895 that it was out of our hands at that point. 1387 01:25:41,929 --> 01:25:43,448 As the president's team waits 1388 01:25:43,483 --> 01:25:46,002 on that Sunday morning in the white house, 1389 01:25:46,037 --> 01:25:49,178 it's evening in Abbottabad. 1390 01:25:49,213 --> 01:25:51,491 Since it was a covert operation, 1391 01:25:51,525 --> 01:25:55,011 I was designated as the person to oversee the operation, 1392 01:25:55,046 --> 01:25:59,361 so we basically set up an operations center at the CIA, 1393 01:25:59,395 --> 01:26:04,159 and we maintained contact with admiral Mccraven, 1394 01:26:04,193 --> 01:26:08,266 who was in Afghanistan overseeing the operations. 1395 01:26:08,301 --> 01:26:10,510 And we were getting regular reports, 1396 01:26:10,544 --> 01:26:13,098 and we were feeding those back to the white house. 1397 01:26:25,732 --> 01:26:29,598 It was risky, because it did involve an operation 1398 01:26:29,632 --> 01:26:32,842 that had to go a long way into Pakistan. 1399 01:26:32,877 --> 01:26:35,776 We clearly had to track it every step of the way. 1400 01:26:46,062 --> 01:26:49,031 When the helicopters reached Abbottabad, 1401 01:26:49,065 --> 01:26:50,481 the first thing we heard 1402 01:26:50,515 --> 01:26:52,207 was that they had a significant problem 1403 01:26:52,241 --> 01:26:54,105 with one of the helicopters, 1404 01:26:54,139 --> 01:26:56,107 it was essentially going down. 1405 01:27:03,528 --> 01:27:05,910 The thing that we all dreaded, 1406 01:27:05,944 --> 01:27:08,740 some kind of helicopter incident, was happening. 1407 01:27:08,775 --> 01:27:11,640 That was the first piece of information we had. 1408 01:27:11,674 --> 01:27:15,678 You see something that involves some of the fears 1409 01:27:15,713 --> 01:27:18,543 about what could possibly go wrong... 1410 01:27:18,578 --> 01:27:21,443 Suddenly, all of those fears are coming true. 1411 01:27:21,477 --> 01:27:22,858 Suddenly we're thinking 1412 01:27:22,892 --> 01:27:25,619 that this operation is going sideways, 1413 01:27:25,654 --> 01:27:27,966 there's going to be potential U.S. casualties. 1414 01:27:28,001 --> 01:27:32,005 There was a real sense of deep anxiety in the room. 1415 01:27:32,039 --> 01:27:33,696 It was totally silent, 1416 01:27:33,731 --> 01:27:36,906 people just hanging on every word from bill Mccraven 1417 01:27:36,941 --> 01:27:39,737 or Leon panetta. 1418 01:27:39,771 --> 01:27:44,569 When admiral Mccraven indicated a kind of, you know, 1419 01:27:44,604 --> 01:27:47,676 this is not a problem, these guys are going to do the job, 1420 01:27:47,710 --> 01:27:50,989 it gave me a sense of confidence. 1421 01:27:51,024 --> 01:27:53,578 We were very relieved when it was reported 1422 01:27:53,613 --> 01:27:57,548 that everyone was off safely, the operation is going forward. 1423 01:28:03,312 --> 01:28:05,349 There was a long period 1424 01:28:05,383 --> 01:28:08,110 after they'd gone into the compound. 1425 01:28:12,183 --> 01:28:15,669 We had heard that shots had been fired. 1426 01:28:15,704 --> 01:28:18,465 We really weren't quite sure what was happening. 1427 01:28:32,893 --> 01:28:36,621 It was a good 15 or 20 minutes of silence 1428 01:28:36,656 --> 01:28:40,453 in the sense of what exactly was going on in there. 1429 01:28:46,113 --> 01:28:51,429 Those were very long and torturous moments... 1430 01:28:51,464 --> 01:28:53,673 Waiting for the word. 1431 01:29:01,991 --> 01:29:05,443 And the code word Geronimo came across. 1432 01:29:05,478 --> 01:29:08,929 I remember that being a moment of extraordinary relief, 1433 01:29:08,964 --> 01:29:12,139 because we never knew that this figure 1434 01:29:12,174 --> 01:29:15,660 that we had traced to this compound was Bin Laden. 1435 01:29:15,695 --> 01:29:18,422 All of the months of gathering intelligence, 1436 01:29:18,456 --> 01:29:20,355 all of the operations, 1437 01:29:20,389 --> 01:29:22,840 all of the questions suddenly were answered 1438 01:29:22,874 --> 01:29:25,705 in that moment when we heard Geronimo. 1439 01:29:30,365 --> 01:29:32,677 There was kind of an audible exhaling 1440 01:29:32,712 --> 01:29:34,748 of everybody in the room. 1441 01:29:34,783 --> 01:29:38,442 And then the president just said, "we got him, we got him." 1442 01:29:42,963 --> 01:29:45,138 The United States has conducted an operation 1443 01:29:45,172 --> 01:29:47,243 that killed osama Bin Laden. 1444 01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:53,008 Justice has been done. 1445 01:30:01,568 --> 01:30:04,847 On February 25, 2012, 1446 01:30:04,882 --> 01:30:11,060 Pakistani security forces began demolishing Bin Laden's house. 1447 01:30:11,095 --> 01:30:13,269 What was a surprise was that 1448 01:30:13,304 --> 01:30:17,515 it frankly took as long as it did to finally get Bin Laden. 1449 01:30:17,550 --> 01:30:20,415 You would have hoped that we could have done it earlier. 1450 01:30:22,762 --> 01:30:26,697 My reaction was, you know, if I ordered a pizza 1451 01:30:26,731 --> 01:30:29,147 and it came 10 years after I ordered it, 1452 01:30:29,182 --> 01:30:30,735 I wouldn't be too delighted. 1453 01:30:33,497 --> 01:30:35,395 It really did bring home the message 1454 01:30:35,430 --> 01:30:38,294 that we will come and get you. 1455 01:30:41,712 --> 01:30:43,955 You don't sleep better because he's gone. 1456 01:30:43,990 --> 01:30:47,649 What you worry about is who takes his place. 1457 01:30:49,582 --> 01:30:52,757 The fact that he's dead, I think, is fine. 1458 01:30:52,792 --> 01:30:56,416 The world's a better place with osama Bin Laden not here. 1459 01:30:57,305 --> 01:31:57,172 Support us and become VIP member to remove all ads from OpenSubtitles.org 116859

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