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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,056 --> 00:00:15,667 -YOU KNOW, THAT QUESTION 2 00:00:15,754 --> 00:00:19,454 OF WHEN I STARTED THE FORGOTTEN PROJECT... 3 00:00:19,541 --> 00:00:21,673 WAS I NAIVE? 4 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,286 AND, YEAH, I WAS. 5 00:00:25,373 --> 00:00:26,852 I WAS NAIVE TO THINK 6 00:00:26,939 --> 00:00:31,292 THAT I CAN APPROACH THESE ISSUES IN THE WAY I DID 7 00:00:31,379 --> 00:00:34,773 WITHOUT... 8 00:00:34,860 --> 00:00:37,037 EXPERIENCING THE KIND OF CONTROVERSY I HAVE. 9 00:00:37,124 --> 00:00:40,257 [LOUD RUBBING SOUND] 10 00:01:42,493 --> 00:01:45,931 -I WAS WORKING IN THE CENTRE, AND I FOUND IN A DRAWER 11 00:01:46,018 --> 00:01:48,238 SOME PHOTOGRAPHS BY LINCOLN CLARKES 12 00:01:48,325 --> 00:01:52,068 OF THE WOMEN THAT CAME TO MY SHELTER. 13 00:01:52,155 --> 00:01:54,766 AND WHAT I LEARNED WAS THAT HE DROPPED OFF SHOTS 14 00:01:54,853 --> 00:01:56,855 FOR THE WOMEN THAT HE TOOK OF THEM, 15 00:01:56,942 --> 00:01:59,510 AND THE DEAL WAS THEY WOULD PICK THEM UP, 16 00:01:59,597 --> 00:02:00,990 AND THE FIRST THAT I LEARNED 17 00:02:01,077 --> 00:02:02,383 THAT A WOMAN WAS MISSING 18 00:02:02,470 --> 00:02:03,949 WAS SHEILA EGAN. 19 00:02:04,036 --> 00:02:05,951 SHE NEVER CAME TO PICK UP HER PORTRAIT. 20 00:02:08,606 --> 00:02:11,043 IT REACHED MORE OF A FEVERISH PITCH 21 00:02:11,131 --> 00:02:12,784 IN ABOUT 1999, 22 00:02:12,871 --> 00:02:15,222 WHEN THE MISSING WOMEN'S TASK FORCE 23 00:02:15,309 --> 00:02:19,139 RELEASED A POSTER OF THE WOMEN THAT WERE MISSING AT THAT TIME. 24 00:02:20,618 --> 00:02:22,925 -THAT YEAR, WE HAD A DISAGREEMENT 25 00:02:23,012 --> 00:02:26,233 ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT SHE WAS DOING, 26 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:27,843 AND AT FIRST I THOUGHT 27 00:02:27,930 --> 00:02:29,323 THAT THAT WAS WHY SHE WASN'T PHONING. 28 00:02:29,410 --> 00:02:31,455 SHE WAS STUBBORN. I WAS STUBBORN. 29 00:02:31,542 --> 00:02:34,241 BUT AFTER A FEW MONTHS, I KNEW. 30 00:02:34,328 --> 00:02:38,158 I KNEW THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG. 31 00:02:40,203 --> 00:02:42,423 -WHEN I HAD FINALLY TALKED TO THE POLICE, 32 00:02:42,510 --> 00:02:44,947 I WAS UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING 33 00:02:45,034 --> 00:02:48,255 THAT MARNIE WAS THE FIRST PERSON MISSING. 34 00:02:48,342 --> 00:02:51,606 LITTLE DID I KNOW SHE WAS NUMBER 26. 35 00:02:53,303 --> 00:02:55,131 -THE NUMBERS WERE JUST INCREDIBLE, 36 00:02:55,218 --> 00:02:56,567 AND MANY OF THE WOMEN, YOU KNOW, 37 00:02:56,654 --> 00:02:58,439 WE ALL KNEW ONE OR TWO, AND, YOU KNOW, 38 00:02:58,526 --> 00:03:01,268 WOMEN THAT WERE WALKING WITH US ONE YEAR, 39 00:03:01,355 --> 00:03:03,400 GONE MISSING THE NEXT YEAR. 40 00:03:03,487 --> 00:03:05,881 THEY KNEW AT THAT TIME THAT THERE WAS A SERIAL KILLER. 41 00:03:05,968 --> 00:03:07,622 THEY ALREADY IDENTIFIED THAT, 42 00:03:07,709 --> 00:03:10,668 AND THEY WEREN'T TELLING THE PUBLIC. 43 00:03:16,283 --> 00:03:19,982 -IT WENT FROM BAD TO WORSE... 44 00:03:20,069 --> 00:03:23,986 TO RIDICULOUS TO UNBELIEVABLE. 45 00:03:25,117 --> 00:03:27,816 WHAT WE HAVE IS A NATIONAL DISGRACE 46 00:03:27,903 --> 00:03:29,296 THAT OCCURRED HERE IN VANCOUVER, 47 00:03:29,383 --> 00:03:31,472 AND WE DIDN'T STOP IT. 48 00:03:31,559 --> 00:03:34,257 [POLICE SIRENS WHINE] 49 00:03:38,392 --> 00:03:39,871 -IT WAS AROUND SUPPER TIME, I THINK. 50 00:03:39,958 --> 00:03:42,178 I GOT A PAGE, AND IT WAS MARK CHERNOFF, 51 00:03:42,265 --> 00:03:44,572 AND HE SAID, "THEY'RE SEARCHING THE FARM," 52 00:03:44,659 --> 00:03:47,314 AND I SAID, "WHAT FARM?" 53 00:03:47,401 --> 00:03:49,403 AND HE SAID, "THE PICKTON FARM." 54 00:03:50,926 --> 00:03:52,406 I JUST SAID, "OH, MY GOD." 55 00:03:52,493 --> 00:03:54,190 WE SHOULD HAVE HAD HIM IN '99. 56 00:03:55,583 --> 00:03:56,975 WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH IN '98, 57 00:03:57,062 --> 00:03:58,586 BUT WE HAD ENOUGH IN AUGUST OF 1999, 58 00:03:58,673 --> 00:04:01,241 AND WE SHOULD HAVE HAD HIM. 59 00:04:04,069 --> 00:04:05,767 I JUST STARTED THINKING OF NUMBERS, 60 00:04:05,854 --> 00:04:08,509 AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING 13, 12, 13, 14 WOMEN 61 00:04:08,596 --> 00:04:11,076 THAT PROBABLY DIED IN THAT TIME, 62 00:04:11,163 --> 00:04:14,079 WHEN HE REALLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN CUSTODY. 63 00:04:17,126 --> 00:04:20,695 -THIS CASE IS NOW THE LARGEST SERIAL KILLER INVESTIGATION 64 00:04:20,782 --> 00:04:23,350 IN CANADIAN HISTORY. 65 00:05:02,737 --> 00:05:04,086 -DURING THE TRIAL 66 00:05:04,173 --> 00:05:06,044 AND IN THE PRE-TRIAL PROCEEDINGS, 67 00:05:06,131 --> 00:05:09,613 THERE WERE LITTLE GLIMPSES OF THE LIVES OF THE VICTIMS, 68 00:05:09,700 --> 00:05:14,662 BUT THE FOCUS HAS BEEN ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY ON ROBERT PICKTON. 69 00:05:14,749 --> 00:05:20,276 THE FOCUS ON THIS PERPETRATOR EXCLUDES THE PUBLIC 70 00:05:20,363 --> 00:05:22,713 FROM WHAT HAPPENED TO THESE WOMEN, 71 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,628 AND THEY BECOME SORT OF A CATALOGUE 72 00:05:24,715 --> 00:05:28,371 OF BODY PARTS AND DNA SMEARS ON WALLS. 73 00:05:31,243 --> 00:05:33,681 WHEN SHE MAKES THESE WORKS PUBLIC, 74 00:05:33,768 --> 00:05:37,249 THAT WILL CHANGE THE FOCUS BACK TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE 75 00:05:37,337 --> 00:05:38,990 FOR US AS A SOCIETY, 76 00:05:39,077 --> 00:05:43,734 TO LOOK AT THE PROBLEMS THAT LED TO THESE KILLINGS. 77 00:05:53,527 --> 00:05:55,224 SEEING THOSE PAINTINGS IN THE BACK ROOM 78 00:05:55,311 --> 00:05:57,052 AND SEEING THE PAINTINGS IN THE FRONT ROOM 79 00:05:57,139 --> 00:05:59,315 RAISED A LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR ME ABOUT PAMELA. 80 00:05:59,402 --> 00:06:01,099 WHAT WOULD MAKE A PERSON 81 00:06:01,186 --> 00:06:04,581 WHO WAS BUILDING A CAREER ON BEAUTIFUL PICTURES, 82 00:06:04,668 --> 00:06:06,670 WHAT WOULD POSSESS HER TO TAKE ON THIS PROJECT 83 00:06:06,757 --> 00:06:10,761 THAT DREDGED UP THE WORST POSSIBLE ASPECTS 84 00:06:10,848 --> 00:06:13,764 OF HUMAN BEHAVIOUR? 85 00:06:15,157 --> 00:06:19,770 -WE STARTED HEARING ALL OF THIS INCREDIBLY BRUTAL STUFF. 86 00:06:19,857 --> 00:06:21,642 WE COULDN'T TELL THE STORY. 87 00:06:21,729 --> 00:06:23,644 I COULDN'T DO MY FULL JOB BECAUSE OF THE PUBLICATION BANS 88 00:06:23,731 --> 00:06:25,341 THAT WERE IN PLACE, 89 00:06:25,428 --> 00:06:27,299 AND THEY WERE VERY STRICT. 90 00:06:27,387 --> 00:06:30,781 THEY FOUND, WHAT, THREE HEADS IN BUCKETS OUT ON THE FARM. 91 00:06:30,868 --> 00:06:33,175 SOME OF THEM HAD... 92 00:06:33,262 --> 00:06:37,048 I THINK ALL OF THEM HAD BULLET HOLES IN THEM. 93 00:06:37,135 --> 00:06:39,050 THE HEADS HAD BEEN BISECTED, 94 00:06:39,137 --> 00:06:41,357 PROBABLY WITH A RECIPROCATING SAW. 95 00:06:41,444 --> 00:06:44,404 THEY HAD THE HANDS INSIDE THE HALVES OF THE HEADS, 96 00:06:44,491 --> 00:06:47,407 AND THEY WERE RESTING ON THE FEET. 97 00:06:48,582 --> 00:06:50,018 -THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 98 00:06:50,105 --> 00:06:52,542 -THANK YOU. 99 00:06:52,629 --> 00:06:55,502 -WELL, WE KNEW SHE'D GONE MISSING, OF COURSE, 100 00:06:55,589 --> 00:06:59,157 SO THEN IT WAS ABOUT 2001. 101 00:07:00,332 --> 00:07:04,336 IF THEY FIND DNA ON ANY OF THE WOMEN, 102 00:07:04,424 --> 00:07:07,514 THEY SEND THE VICTIM ASSISTANCE SERVICES, 103 00:07:07,601 --> 00:07:09,167 ALONG WITH THE RCMP, 104 00:07:09,254 --> 00:07:10,691 AND THEY MAKE A PHONE CALL TO YOU, 105 00:07:10,778 --> 00:07:12,301 AND THEY TELL YOU 106 00:07:12,388 --> 00:07:14,303 THAT THEY'RE COMING OUT TO YOUR HOME 107 00:07:14,390 --> 00:07:16,784 AND THAT THEY'RE BRINGING VICTIM SERVICES WITH THEM. 108 00:07:16,871 --> 00:07:18,220 THEY DON'T TELL YOU ANYTHING ELSE 109 00:07:18,307 --> 00:07:19,700 UNTIL THEY GET THERE. 110 00:07:19,787 --> 00:07:21,702 AND THAT MORNING, 111 00:07:21,789 --> 00:07:23,399 WE SAT AT MY KITCHEN TABLE, 112 00:07:23,486 --> 00:07:27,142 AND THERE MUST HAVE BEEN TWO RCMP, I BELIEVE, 113 00:07:27,229 --> 00:07:30,188 AND ABOUT THREE VICTIM ASSISTANCE WOMEN, 114 00:07:30,275 --> 00:07:33,365 AND THE ONE RCMP SAID, "HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IT?" 115 00:07:33,453 --> 00:07:35,411 AND I SAID, "GIVE IT TO ME STRAIGHTFORWARD AND DIRECT. 116 00:07:35,498 --> 00:07:37,369 DON'T BEAT AROUND THE BUSH." 117 00:07:37,457 --> 00:07:41,156 AND HE SAID, "WE FOUND DNA ON THE PICKTON FARM 118 00:07:41,243 --> 00:07:42,853 "OF YOUR SISTER, 119 00:07:42,940 --> 00:07:44,855 "AND AS IT STANDS, 120 00:07:44,942 --> 00:07:46,291 "ROBERT PICKTON'S GOING TO BE CHARGED 121 00:07:46,378 --> 00:07:48,642 WITH YOUR SISTER'S MURDER." 122 00:07:52,428 --> 00:07:54,561 I THINK THE BIGGEST THING WITH ME IS, YOU KNOW, 123 00:07:54,648 --> 00:07:56,301 I'VE LET GO OF MY SISTER. 124 00:07:56,388 --> 00:07:59,566 I KNOW SHE'S IN THE BEST HANDS SHE COULD BE IN, 125 00:07:59,653 --> 00:08:03,570 BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HOW THEY WERE MURDERED, 126 00:08:03,657 --> 00:08:05,441 AND WHEN YOU'RE SITTING IN THAT COURTROOM 127 00:08:05,528 --> 00:08:06,834 AND YOU'RE BEING TOLD 128 00:08:06,921 --> 00:08:08,749 THAT THEY WERE STRUNG UP ON MEAT CLEAVERS 129 00:08:08,836 --> 00:08:12,448 AND THEY'RE BEING CUT OPEN FROM TOP TO BOTTOM 130 00:08:12,535 --> 00:08:15,277 AND THEY'RE BEING DEGUTTED AND CHOPPED UP 131 00:08:15,364 --> 00:08:16,844 INTO SMALL LITTLE PIECES, LIKE... 132 00:08:16,931 --> 00:08:19,803 THESE ARE REAL PEOPLE. THESE WERE WOMEN. 133 00:08:19,890 --> 00:08:23,851 THEY WEREN'T JUST PROSTITUTES AND DRUGGIES ON THE STREETS. 134 00:08:29,378 --> 00:08:32,381 -IN 1997, 135 00:08:32,468 --> 00:08:37,168 14 WOMEN WERE FOUND DEAD 136 00:08:37,255 --> 00:08:39,519 OR WENT MISSING FROM THE EAST SIDE. 137 00:08:39,606 --> 00:08:42,173 14 WOMEN IN ONE YEAR. 138 00:08:42,260 --> 00:08:45,220 CAN YOU IMAGINE IF THAT HAPPENED IN WEST VANCOUVER? 139 00:08:45,307 --> 00:08:47,788 YOU CAN'T. 140 00:08:55,709 --> 00:09:00,278 WELL, BEHIND THAT BRUSH STROKE THAT MIGHT LOOK VIOLENT, 141 00:09:00,365 --> 00:09:02,672 VIOLENTLY EXECUTED, 142 00:09:02,759 --> 00:09:04,979 OR THAT SLASH IN THE CANVAS 143 00:09:05,066 --> 00:09:07,242 OR THE COLOUR OF BLOOD 144 00:09:07,329 --> 00:09:09,331 THAT MIGHT REPRESENT SOMETHING 145 00:09:09,418 --> 00:09:11,812 ALONG THE LINES OF THE WOMAN'S DEATH, 146 00:09:11,899 --> 00:09:15,816 I THINK THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A PERSON 147 00:09:15,903 --> 00:09:17,557 BEHIND THE ACT OF VIOLENCE, 148 00:09:17,644 --> 00:09:19,602 WHICH WOULD BE ME IN THIS CASE, 149 00:09:19,689 --> 00:09:23,345 THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE... 150 00:09:23,432 --> 00:09:25,782 NOT NECESSARILY A GOOD REACTION. 151 00:09:25,869 --> 00:09:30,570 IT'LL MIMIC THE IDEA OF BEING ABLE TO BLAME SOMEONE. 152 00:09:32,310 --> 00:09:35,662 AND SO THAT WOULD BE ME IN THIS CASE. 153 00:09:35,749 --> 00:09:37,664 AND, UH... 154 00:09:37,751 --> 00:09:40,188 [LOUD SCRAPING] 155 00:09:40,275 --> 00:09:42,364 SO, I DON'T THINK IT'LL BE RECEIVED WELL, 156 00:09:42,451 --> 00:09:44,540 THAT PART FOR SURE. 157 00:09:44,627 --> 00:09:47,543 SOME PEOPLE REALLY NEED TO BE WOKEN UP TO THE IDEA 158 00:09:47,630 --> 00:09:53,331 THAT THIS IS REALLY HAPPENING AND THAT IT'S TIME TO CHANGE. 159 00:09:53,418 --> 00:09:57,684 IT'S NOT ABOUT MEMORIALIZING A WOMAN OR ANY OF THESE WOMEN. 160 00:09:57,771 --> 00:10:01,557 I MEAN, I DON'T MEAN TO BE SO HARSH WHEN I SAY THAT 161 00:10:01,644 --> 00:10:04,299 BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHY I'M REALLY PAINTING THEM. 162 00:10:04,386 --> 00:10:06,693 IT'S NOT TO MEMORIALIZE THEM. 163 00:10:06,780 --> 00:10:10,784 IT'S TO HAVE THEM STARE US BACK AS A SOCIETY IN THE FACE, 164 00:10:10,871 --> 00:10:13,656 IN OUR FACES. 165 00:10:14,788 --> 00:10:15,702 I JUST HAVE THIS VISION, YOU KNOW? 166 00:10:15,789 --> 00:10:17,268 I DON'T REALLY... 167 00:10:17,355 --> 00:10:20,489 I CAN'T ALWAYS CONVEY THINGS WITH A WORD. 168 00:10:27,496 --> 00:10:30,978 I STARTED PAINTING THE FACES FEBRUARY 2006. 169 00:10:33,894 --> 00:10:37,506 IT'S DAYS BEFORE JULY 2007, 170 00:10:37,593 --> 00:10:40,683 AND... 171 00:10:42,816 --> 00:10:44,426 I'M JUST BELOW 20, 172 00:10:44,513 --> 00:10:47,734 SO THERE ARE 69 THAT I'M PAINTING. 173 00:10:48,996 --> 00:10:50,432 I CAN'T SAY. 174 00:10:50,519 --> 00:10:52,521 I CAN'T SAY WHEN I'LL HAVE THEM DONE. 175 00:10:54,523 --> 00:10:57,004 -VANCOUVER IS A VERY SMALL CITY. 176 00:10:57,091 --> 00:10:59,876 IT'S A MINUSCULE PLACE. 177 00:10:59,963 --> 00:11:02,749 YOU CAN DRIVE THROUGH IT IN 15 MINUTES. 178 00:11:02,836 --> 00:11:04,838 IT'S NOT LONDON. 179 00:11:04,925 --> 00:11:07,928 IT'S NOT MARSEILLES OR MEXICO CITY, 180 00:11:08,015 --> 00:11:10,800 THOUSANDS OF SQUARE MILES. 181 00:11:10,887 --> 00:11:14,456 WE'VE ONLY GOT 12 BLOCKS TO WORRY ABOUT. 182 00:11:14,543 --> 00:11:16,153 -THE DOWNTOWN EASTSIDE, 183 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,590 WHERE I WALK IN THE CAPACITY OF A BEAT OFFICER, 184 00:11:18,678 --> 00:11:20,375 THE PLACE IS LIKE A GOLDFISH BOWL 185 00:11:20,462 --> 00:11:22,943 OF SOCIETY'S PROBLEMS. 186 00:11:23,030 --> 00:11:26,686 DRUG ADDICTION, ALCOHOLISM, MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS, 187 00:11:26,773 --> 00:11:29,427 CRIME, POVERTY... 188 00:11:29,514 --> 00:11:31,603 YOU NAME IT, IT'S THERE. 189 00:11:32,866 --> 00:11:36,043 -I THINK MOST URBAN SETTINGS HAVE AREAS THAT ARE SIMILAR. 190 00:11:36,130 --> 00:11:38,741 HOWEVER, THAT NEIGHBOURHOOD, YOU KNOW, 191 00:11:38,828 --> 00:11:43,006 HAS THE HIGHEST REPORTED NUMBER OF SEXUAL ASSAULTS IN THE CITY, 192 00:11:43,093 --> 00:11:45,705 WHICH IS TO SAY THAT THE NUMBERS ARE THROUGH THE ROOF. 193 00:11:47,576 --> 00:11:49,621 -WE HAD TWO PEOPLE STABBED OVER HERE. 194 00:11:49,709 --> 00:11:52,624 WE HAD A GIRL STABBED ON THE STEPS. 195 00:11:52,712 --> 00:11:55,410 AND THEN LAST WELFARE DAY, 196 00:11:55,497 --> 00:11:59,109 ANOTHER GIRL GOT STABBED IN FRONT OF THE DOOR HERE, 197 00:11:59,196 --> 00:12:02,025 NOT THIS DOOR, BUT THE OTHER DOOR. 198 00:12:03,853 --> 00:12:05,768 -I CALLED ON MY CELL PHONE 9-1-1 199 00:12:05,855 --> 00:12:08,075 AND SAID, "I WANT TO REPORT A PERSON MISSING. 200 00:12:08,162 --> 00:12:09,816 IT'S A FRIEND OF MINE." 201 00:12:09,903 --> 00:12:11,905 THE MISSING PERSON'S DEPARTMENT GIVES ME A CALL AT WORK 202 00:12:11,992 --> 00:12:13,733 AND I SAID, "LOOK, I KNOW SARAH. 203 00:12:13,820 --> 00:12:15,822 SHE'S MISSING. SHE JUST DIDN'T RUN AWAY." 204 00:12:15,909 --> 00:12:17,954 AND THEN HE STARTED TALKING ABOUT, 205 00:12:18,041 --> 00:12:20,087 "WELL, YOU KNOW, WOMEN, LIKE, YOU KNOW, 206 00:12:20,174 --> 00:12:21,523 "THAT WORK THE STREETS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, 207 00:12:21,610 --> 00:12:23,090 "THEY GO FROM CITY TO CITY. 208 00:12:23,177 --> 00:12:24,482 YOU KNOW, THEY SHOW UP AGAIN." 209 00:12:24,569 --> 00:12:25,527 THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID. 210 00:12:25,614 --> 00:12:27,703 "THEY SHOW UP AGAIN." 211 00:12:27,790 --> 00:12:29,749 -IT STARTS FROM THE CHIEF AND WORKS ITS WAY DOWN, 212 00:12:29,836 --> 00:12:31,838 SO YOU'VE GOT RANKING OFFICERS 213 00:12:31,925 --> 00:12:37,017 WHO ARE BEHAVING IN RACIST AND SEXIST MANNERS, 214 00:12:37,104 --> 00:12:40,455 AND YOU FOLLOW THAT LEAD, 215 00:12:40,542 --> 00:12:42,544 BECAUSE IT'S BEEN DRILLED INTO YOU 216 00:12:42,631 --> 00:12:44,633 AND INGRAINED INTO YOU 217 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,027 THAT YOU DO AS YOUR SUPERIORS DO. 218 00:12:47,114 --> 00:12:50,857 THE WOMEN WHO SELL THEIR BODIES FOR SEX, 219 00:12:50,944 --> 00:12:53,990 THEY DID NOT DESERVE... 220 00:12:55,644 --> 00:12:58,865 THEY DID NOT DESERVE ANYTHING. 221 00:12:58,952 --> 00:13:01,084 -IN MY SEARCH FOR SARAH, 222 00:13:01,171 --> 00:13:02,651 I PUT OUT LOTS OF POSTERS. 223 00:13:02,738 --> 00:13:04,218 I WAS PUTTING THEM UP EVERYWHERE. 224 00:13:04,305 --> 00:13:06,568 I WALKED THE STREETS DAY IN AND DAY OUT. 225 00:13:06,655 --> 00:13:08,831 I HAD THEM ON MY CAR. 226 00:13:08,918 --> 00:13:10,572 I GOT A COUPLE OF TIPS, 227 00:13:10,659 --> 00:13:12,704 BUT THE ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW IS BILL HISCOX. 228 00:13:12,792 --> 00:13:17,405 HE CALLED AND HE SAID, "WILLY, A PIG FARMER, 229 00:13:17,492 --> 00:13:18,885 "HAS ALL OF THESE WOMEN'S CLOTHING 230 00:13:18,972 --> 00:13:20,887 WITH BLOOD ON THEM ON THEIR FARM," 231 00:13:20,974 --> 00:13:22,497 AND LISA YELDS, 232 00:13:22,584 --> 00:13:25,021 SHE IS THE ONE THAT TOLD HIM THIS STORY. 233 00:13:26,196 --> 00:13:28,808 -I HAVE A STEPSISTER WHO WAS VERY CLOSE WITH WILLY 234 00:13:28,895 --> 00:13:31,854 AND WAS ALSO DOING ODD JOBS FOR WILLY AS WELL. 235 00:13:31,941 --> 00:13:35,510 ONE OF THEM WAS CLEANING HIS TRAILER A LOT. 236 00:13:36,641 --> 00:13:38,121 SHE STARTED TO NOTICE THINGS... 237 00:13:38,208 --> 00:13:41,603 GIRLS' CLOTHING, I.D.s, YOU KNOW, INHALERS, 238 00:13:41,690 --> 00:13:43,387 AND SHE SAYS, "YOU KNOW, BILL, 239 00:13:43,474 --> 00:13:45,912 I THINK THIS IS WHERE ALL THOSE WOMEN ARE GOING." 240 00:13:47,696 --> 00:13:49,176 -WE HAD A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS. 241 00:13:49,263 --> 00:13:51,831 LISA YELDS, WHO WAS MR. HISCOX'S FRIEND, 242 00:13:51,918 --> 00:13:54,572 WAS EXTREMELY ANTI-POLICE, 243 00:13:54,659 --> 00:13:56,096 IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, 244 00:13:56,183 --> 00:13:58,011 WOULD NOT COOPERATE WITH THE POLICE. 245 00:13:58,098 --> 00:14:00,491 EVERYONE AGREED THIS WAS EXTREMELY COMPELLING, 246 00:14:00,578 --> 00:14:02,058 BUT EVERYONE ALSO SAID, 247 00:14:02,145 --> 00:14:04,104 "YOU'LL NEVER GET A WARRANT ON THAT." 248 00:14:04,191 --> 00:14:05,975 I RAN PICKTON FOR A CRIMINAL RECORD, 249 00:14:06,062 --> 00:14:08,760 AND THE ONLY TWO ENTRIES I GOT ON HIM 250 00:14:08,848 --> 00:14:10,632 WERE ATTEMPT MURDER, FORCIBLE CONFINEMENT, 251 00:14:10,719 --> 00:14:12,939 AND THEY WERE STAY OF PROCEEDINGS, 252 00:14:13,026 --> 00:14:14,854 AND I REMEMBER, I JUST THOUGHT, 253 00:14:14,941 --> 00:14:17,813 "THIS IS THE KIND OF GUY I'M LOOKING FOR." 254 00:14:19,206 --> 00:14:20,555 -SHE ALREADY KNEW 255 00:14:20,642 --> 00:14:22,557 AND WAS ALREADY AWARE OF PICKTON, 256 00:14:22,644 --> 00:14:24,864 AND SHE ALREADY KNEW WHERE THE FARM WAS. 257 00:14:24,951 --> 00:14:28,519 IT WAS, "LET'S SEE IF BILL KNOWS WHERE IT IS," 258 00:14:28,606 --> 00:14:30,652 AND I TOOK HER STRAIGHT TO THE FARM, 259 00:14:30,739 --> 00:14:33,960 AND I SAID, "THIS IS THE MAN YOU NEED TO BE LOOKING AT, 260 00:14:34,047 --> 00:14:35,744 "NOBODY ELSE. 261 00:14:35,831 --> 00:14:39,008 LOOK AT THIS GUY BECAUSE IT'S REALLY FREAKY IN THERE." 262 00:14:39,095 --> 00:14:40,880 -I FELT STRONGLY 263 00:14:40,967 --> 00:14:42,664 THAT AN UNDERCOVER OPERATION WAS WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO, 264 00:14:42,751 --> 00:14:44,796 WHICH I COMMUNICATED TO COQUITLAM RCMP 265 00:14:44,884 --> 00:14:46,624 AND SAID, "LOOK, WE'LL HELP YOU WITH SURVEILLANCE. 266 00:14:46,711 --> 00:14:47,974 "WE JUST CAN'T INITIATE IT OURSELVES 267 00:14:48,061 --> 00:14:50,280 BECAUSE IT'S IN YOUR BACKYARD," 268 00:14:50,367 --> 00:14:51,978 AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE IT WAS AT, 269 00:14:52,065 --> 00:14:54,241 AND THEN IT JUST DIED. 270 00:14:56,025 --> 00:14:57,853 I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL, 271 00:14:57,940 --> 00:15:00,595 AND I EXPECTED, AND THIS IS... 272 00:15:00,682 --> 00:15:02,336 I KNOW I SAID THIS IN MY EVIDENCE, 273 00:15:02,423 --> 00:15:06,557 THERE WAS AN ABSENCE OF ANYONE WHO I WORKED WITH, 274 00:15:06,644 --> 00:15:10,039 SAYING TO ME, "THIS IS HOW WE TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL. 275 00:15:10,126 --> 00:15:11,519 "THIS IS WHAT WE DO. 276 00:15:11,606 --> 00:15:13,738 "WE'RE THE HOMICIDE GUYS SAYING, 277 00:15:13,825 --> 00:15:15,784 "'LORI, THIS IS A SERIAL KILLER. 278 00:15:15,871 --> 00:15:17,220 "'YOU'RE RIGHT. 279 00:15:17,307 --> 00:15:18,569 LET'S TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL.'" 280 00:15:18,656 --> 00:15:21,224 THERE JUST WASN'T THAT LEADERSHIP. 281 00:15:24,053 --> 00:15:25,315 -THERE WAS JURISDICTIONAL PROBLEMS 282 00:15:25,402 --> 00:15:28,753 BETWEEN THE RCMP AND THE VPD, 283 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,018 AND THEY NEVER PROCEEDED, 284 00:15:32,105 --> 00:15:35,238 AND MORE WOMEN CONTINUED TO DIE. 285 00:15:41,201 --> 00:15:44,117 -I DECIDED THAT I WAS GOING TO RE-ENACT THE KILLING 286 00:15:44,204 --> 00:15:48,034 OR THE DEATH OF THESE WOMEN, 287 00:15:48,121 --> 00:15:52,125 AND SOMETHING STRANGE HAPPENED WHEN I DID THIS. 288 00:15:53,256 --> 00:15:56,607 IT FELT EMOTIONALLY 289 00:15:56,694 --> 00:16:01,351 LIKE I HAD PIERCED THE SKIN OF AN INDIVIDUAL, 290 00:16:01,438 --> 00:16:03,049 LIKE, IT WAS JUST... 291 00:16:03,136 --> 00:16:06,139 I CARRIED A LOT OF THAT WITH ME 292 00:16:06,226 --> 00:16:09,098 TO THE POINT WHERE IT REALLY DISTURBED ME. 293 00:16:10,839 --> 00:16:12,623 I GUESS THE WHOLE IDEA BEHIND IT 294 00:16:12,710 --> 00:16:16,105 WAS TO GO BACK TO THOSE WOUNDS 295 00:16:16,192 --> 00:16:18,064 AND TO STITCH THEM UP, 296 00:16:18,151 --> 00:16:19,935 AND THEN COVER UP THE STITCHING, 297 00:16:20,022 --> 00:16:21,763 AND IT WOULD ONLY JUST SHOW TRACES 298 00:16:21,850 --> 00:16:28,248 OF MAYBE SOME SORT OF STORY ABOUT THAT INDIVIDUAL. 299 00:16:29,684 --> 00:16:31,077 I'M DOING THAT NOT JUST WITH THE STITCHING, 300 00:16:31,164 --> 00:16:34,080 BUT ALSO WITH NEWSPAPER CLIPPINGS, 301 00:16:34,167 --> 00:16:37,387 SO THE INFLUENCE OF MEDIA IN THEIR LIFE. 302 00:16:39,172 --> 00:16:41,783 YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC WITH THE MEDIA 303 00:16:41,870 --> 00:16:45,830 AND THE STORIES THAT HAVE BEEN TOLD, 304 00:16:45,917 --> 00:16:47,789 SO WHAT THE PUBLIC REALLY KNOWS, 305 00:16:47,876 --> 00:16:50,748 AND HOW THERE'S THIS PLACEMENT OF RESPONSIBILITY 306 00:16:50,835 --> 00:16:53,751 ON THIS KILLER, YOU KNOW... 307 00:16:53,838 --> 00:16:58,191 IT'S ALMOST LIKE THERE'S A REALLY BIG CHANCE 308 00:16:58,278 --> 00:17:02,325 OF SOCIETY IN GENERAL JUST REALLY PLACING THE BLAME 309 00:17:02,412 --> 00:17:04,284 ON THAT PERSON, THAT INDIVIDUAL, 310 00:17:04,371 --> 00:17:07,417 SO THAT THERE'S NO SOCIAL BLAME. 311 00:17:07,504 --> 00:17:11,117 WELL, WHY DID THIS HAPPEN IN THE FIRST PLACE? 312 00:17:11,204 --> 00:17:13,641 IF A FAMILY MEMBER COMES TO ME, 313 00:17:13,728 --> 00:17:15,382 OR THERE'S A BEEN A FEW 314 00:17:15,469 --> 00:17:17,819 THAT HAVE SENT ME E-MAILS WITH PICTURES, 315 00:17:17,906 --> 00:17:21,779 THEN I'M GOING TO RESPECT WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO, RIGHT, 316 00:17:21,866 --> 00:17:24,826 BUT I STILL HAVE TO MAKE A FINE BALANCE 317 00:17:24,913 --> 00:17:29,135 BETWEEN THAT AND THE CREATIVE PROCESS, 318 00:17:29,222 --> 00:17:32,051 WHICH SOMETIMES IS A CHALLENGE. 319 00:17:38,753 --> 00:17:40,233 EVEN THOUGH I DON'T MAKE, LIKE, 320 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,018 REALLY MAKING THE DEALS WITH MY COLLECTORS, 321 00:17:43,105 --> 00:17:44,541 I'M STILL MAKING THESE DEALS, 322 00:17:44,628 --> 00:17:47,849 AND I'M PURPOSELY MAKING LARGE-SCALE WORKS 323 00:17:47,936 --> 00:17:52,027 SO THAT I COULD INCREASE MY REVENUE 324 00:17:52,114 --> 00:17:55,248 TO PAY FOR THE FACES. 325 00:17:55,335 --> 00:17:58,294 $22,000. THAT'S FOR THAT SIZE OF WORK. 326 00:17:58,381 --> 00:17:59,730 FOR SOMETHING BIGGER, 327 00:17:59,817 --> 00:18:01,080 FOR SOMETHING THAT'S COMMISSIONED, 328 00:18:01,167 --> 00:18:02,864 IT WOULD NORMALLY BE ABOUT $35,000, 329 00:18:02,951 --> 00:18:04,300 SO THAT'S ABOUT 70 GRAND, 330 00:18:04,387 --> 00:18:06,389 SO YOU GUYS ARE GOING FROM THAT TO 50, 331 00:18:06,476 --> 00:18:08,261 SO YOU'RE... NO, NO, 332 00:18:08,348 --> 00:18:11,177 BUT YOU'RE GETTING ALREADY THE EXTRA 30% OFF FOR THAT. 333 00:18:11,264 --> 00:18:14,745 IF I BUY ALL OF THE ALUMINUM FRAMES 334 00:18:14,832 --> 00:18:17,139 WITH THIS ONE COMPANY, 335 00:18:17,226 --> 00:18:20,186 WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE ABOUT $1,500 WOULD BE ABOUT $700, 336 00:18:20,273 --> 00:18:22,188 SO THAT TIMES 69. 337 00:18:22,275 --> 00:18:24,407 THEN THE PAINTS THEMSELVES COST ME 338 00:18:24,494 --> 00:18:28,063 ABOUT $600 IN PAINT SUPPLIES 339 00:18:28,150 --> 00:18:30,152 TIMES 69. 340 00:18:30,239 --> 00:18:34,200 I'D SAY THIS PROJECT'S GOING TO COST PROBABLY ABOUT... 341 00:18:34,287 --> 00:18:36,202 $150,000, 342 00:18:36,289 --> 00:18:40,075 AND BECAUSE I ESTIMATED THAT MUCH, 343 00:18:40,162 --> 00:18:42,730 MURPHY'S LAW'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, $300,000? 344 00:18:42,817 --> 00:18:44,732 [LAUGHS] 345 00:18:44,819 --> 00:18:47,561 I'M NEVER REALLY GOOD AT THAT WHOLE ESTIMATING THING. 346 00:18:56,178 --> 00:18:57,484 OH... 347 00:18:59,486 --> 00:19:03,011 IT'S JUST NOT WHAT WE AGREED UPON, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. 348 00:19:04,012 --> 00:19:05,883 [CAR ALARM BEEPS OFF] 349 00:19:12,151 --> 00:19:16,024 -THEY HAD A DETECTIVE BY THE NAME OF KIM ROSSMO 350 00:19:16,111 --> 00:19:18,418 IN THEIR EMPLOYMENT, 351 00:19:18,505 --> 00:19:22,335 ONE OF THE MOST RENOWNED CRIMINAL PROFILERS 352 00:19:22,422 --> 00:19:24,902 PROBABLY IN THE WORLD. 353 00:19:24,989 --> 00:19:27,078 -KIM ROSSMO FIRST BEGAN TO COME TO MY ATTENTION 354 00:19:27,166 --> 00:19:29,951 WHEN WE STARTED HEARING ABOUT THIS FORMER BEAT COP 355 00:19:30,038 --> 00:19:32,301 WHO WAS DOING A Ph.D. IN, WHAT WAS IT, 356 00:19:32,388 --> 00:19:34,521 GEOGRAPHIC PROFILING AT SIMON FRASER, 357 00:19:34,608 --> 00:19:37,306 AND HE WAS DEVELOPING THIS METHOD 358 00:19:37,393 --> 00:19:42,181 OF IDENTIFYING CRIME THROUGH MATHEMATICAL PROCESSES. 359 00:19:44,531 --> 00:19:47,011 -IN THE FIVE YEARS I WAS IN THE VANCOUVER POLICE DEPARTMENT 360 00:19:47,098 --> 00:19:49,057 GEOGRAPHIC PROFILING SECTION, 361 00:19:49,144 --> 00:19:52,191 WE WORKED CASES FOR THE FBI, 362 00:19:52,278 --> 00:19:54,149 THE GERMAN POLICE, 363 00:19:54,236 --> 00:19:57,065 THE BELGIAN GENDARMERIE, 364 00:19:57,152 --> 00:19:58,240 NEW YORK POLICE DEPARTMENT, 365 00:19:58,327 --> 00:20:00,242 LOS ANGELES POLICE DEPARTMENT, 366 00:20:00,329 --> 00:20:01,939 LITERALLY ALL OVER THE WORLD. 367 00:20:04,028 --> 00:20:05,334 I WENT BACK 20 YEARS, 368 00:20:05,421 --> 00:20:07,554 FOUND THE NUMBER OF UNFOUND MISSING WOMEN 369 00:20:07,641 --> 00:20:09,295 FROM THE SKID ROAD AREA, WHICH IS QUITE SMALL, 370 00:20:09,382 --> 00:20:11,166 UNTIL WE GET TO '95, 371 00:20:11,253 --> 00:20:13,081 AND THEN THINGS SPIKE UP. 372 00:20:13,168 --> 00:20:14,517 ANY EXPLANATION FOR THIS 373 00:20:14,604 --> 00:20:16,389 HAS TO ACCOUNT FOR THE FOLLOWING. 374 00:20:16,476 --> 00:20:18,347 WHY ARE WE SEEING THIS IN VANCOUVER? 375 00:20:18,434 --> 00:20:19,740 WE'RE NOT SEEING IT 376 00:20:19,827 --> 00:20:21,350 IN OTHER SKID ROADS IN OTHER CITIES. 377 00:20:21,437 --> 00:20:23,570 WHY ARE WE NOT FINDING ANY BODIES? 378 00:20:23,657 --> 00:20:25,267 AND MOST IMPORTANT, 379 00:20:25,354 --> 00:20:28,183 WHY IS THIS JUST HAPPENING WITH WOMEN AND NOT MEN? 380 00:20:28,270 --> 00:20:30,838 MAJOR CRIME PUT FORWARD A NUMBER OF THEORIES, 381 00:20:30,925 --> 00:20:33,014 NONE OF WHICH COULD EXPLAIN ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS. 382 00:20:33,101 --> 00:20:36,539 THE ONLY ANSWER THAT COULD EXPLAIN THEM ALL 383 00:20:36,626 --> 00:20:37,845 THAT WE COULD SEE 384 00:20:37,932 --> 00:20:39,890 WAS A SERIAL KILLER. 385 00:20:41,196 --> 00:20:43,024 THE RESPONSE TO MY REPORT WAS THAT, 386 00:20:43,111 --> 00:20:46,854 "HEY, WE'VE HAD YEARS TO FIND ALL THESE MISSING PEOPLE. 387 00:20:46,941 --> 00:20:48,769 "YOU GIVE US ANOTHER FIVE YEARS 388 00:20:48,856 --> 00:20:51,554 AND THIS SO-CALLED 'SPIKE' OF ROSSMO'S WILL FLATTEN OUT." 389 00:20:55,297 --> 00:20:59,475 -IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT THERE WERE SERIOUS PERSONALITY ISSUES 390 00:20:59,562 --> 00:21:01,651 IN THE VANCOUVER POLICE DEPARTMENT. 391 00:21:01,738 --> 00:21:06,352 -IT WAS REALLY A STORY OF, I THINK, 392 00:21:06,439 --> 00:21:08,092 VERY POOR SENIOR MANAGEMENT 393 00:21:08,179 --> 00:21:10,573 RUNNING A VERY IMPORTANT AGENCY. 394 00:21:10,660 --> 00:21:12,532 -THE PEOPLE IN OUR ORGANIZATION 395 00:21:12,619 --> 00:21:15,535 THAT COULD HAVE CHAMPIONED PICKTON 396 00:21:15,622 --> 00:21:18,102 AS A VERY VIABLE SUSPECT, 397 00:21:18,189 --> 00:21:21,105 THEY WERE STILL SAYING, "WELL, WHERE ELSE COULD THEY BE?" 398 00:21:22,106 --> 00:21:23,456 -THESE WOMEN ARE MISSING, 399 00:21:23,543 --> 00:21:25,458 BUT WE HAVEN'T FOUND THEIR BODIES. 400 00:21:25,545 --> 00:21:28,374 WE DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, 401 00:21:28,461 --> 00:21:31,072 MET UP WITH FOUL PLAY. 402 00:21:31,159 --> 00:21:33,292 THEY'RE SIMPLY MISSING. 403 00:21:33,379 --> 00:21:34,858 -AT THE SAME TIME IN VANCOUVER, 404 00:21:34,945 --> 00:21:37,121 THERE WERE A SERIES OF GARAGE ROBBERIES 405 00:21:37,208 --> 00:21:39,385 HAPPENING ON THE WEST SIDE. 406 00:21:39,472 --> 00:21:40,603 NOBODY WAS HURT. 407 00:21:40,690 --> 00:21:42,301 PEOPLE WERE FRIGHTENED, 408 00:21:42,388 --> 00:21:45,173 AND THE MAYOR AT THE TIME, PHILIP OWEN, 409 00:21:45,260 --> 00:21:48,089 DECIDED TO OFFER A $100,000 REWARD 410 00:21:48,176 --> 00:21:51,266 FOR INFORMATION IN THOSE CASES, 411 00:21:51,353 --> 00:21:54,400 BUT THEN ON PUBLIC, ON TELEVISION, 412 00:21:54,487 --> 00:21:56,271 HE WAS ASKED ABOUT THE MISSING WOMEN 413 00:21:56,358 --> 00:21:59,448 AND ABOUT A REWARD IN CASES OF THE MISSING WOMEN. 414 00:21:59,535 --> 00:22:02,233 -WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT UP A $100,000 REWARD 415 00:22:02,321 --> 00:22:05,585 TO HAVE A LOCATION SERVICE. 416 00:22:05,672 --> 00:22:07,195 -IT'S NOT OUR JOB, YOU KNOW? 417 00:22:07,282 --> 00:22:08,501 PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO SOMEWHERE. 418 00:22:08,588 --> 00:22:09,719 THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS. 419 00:22:09,806 --> 00:22:11,504 IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO LOCATE THEM. 420 00:22:13,070 --> 00:22:14,942 -I WAS MARGINALIZED BY MAJOR CRIME. 421 00:22:15,029 --> 00:22:17,248 THEY DID FORM THE ONE INVESTIGATIVE TEAM 422 00:22:17,336 --> 00:22:18,511 TO LOOK AT IT, 423 00:22:18,598 --> 00:22:20,382 BUT THEY WERE UNDER-RESOURCED. 424 00:22:20,469 --> 00:22:24,255 NEITHER AGENCY WAS WILLING TO PURSUE IT, VPD AND RCMP. 425 00:22:24,343 --> 00:22:27,955 AFTER THE WORK ON THE MISSING WOMEN CASE, 426 00:22:28,042 --> 00:22:31,132 THEY DIDN'T ASK ME FOR A SINGLE GEOPROFILE. 427 00:22:31,219 --> 00:22:36,137 -HE WAS SUMMARILY DISMISSED BY THE VPD 428 00:22:36,224 --> 00:22:38,574 AND HE HAD TO TAKE HIS ACTUALLY WORK ELSEWHERE, 429 00:22:38,661 --> 00:22:41,534 EVEN THOUGH SCOTLAND YARD, FBI, AND OTHER PLACES 430 00:22:41,621 --> 00:22:43,536 WERE USING HIS WORK. 431 00:22:54,590 --> 00:22:58,028 -THE HEAD OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SAID, 432 00:22:58,115 --> 00:23:00,161 "THE RESOURCES WILL BE THERE. 433 00:23:00,248 --> 00:23:03,164 "ALL THE RESOURCES THAT YOU NEED WILL BE THERE 434 00:23:03,251 --> 00:23:05,471 AS SOON AS THERE'S EVIDENCE," 435 00:23:05,558 --> 00:23:07,734 AND IT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. 436 00:23:07,821 --> 00:23:10,345 AS SOON AS THE PROPERTY WAS IDENTIFIED 437 00:23:10,432 --> 00:23:12,347 AND THEY GOT ON THE PROPERTY, 438 00:23:12,434 --> 00:23:14,349 ALL THE RESOURCES WERE THERE, 439 00:23:14,436 --> 00:23:17,265 BUT THE RESOURCES WERE NEEDED TO GET THERE, 440 00:23:17,352 --> 00:23:19,528 AND THEY WEREN'T AVAILABLE. 441 00:23:21,269 --> 00:23:22,966 -IT'S VERY SAD 442 00:23:23,053 --> 00:23:25,404 THAT THEY DIDN'T TAKE ACTION WITH KIM, 443 00:23:25,491 --> 00:23:28,494 WITH DETECTIVE ROSSMO'S INFORMATION, 444 00:23:28,581 --> 00:23:32,019 BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU STRAIGHT UP, 445 00:23:32,106 --> 00:23:36,153 WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE SAVED ABOUT 15 WOMEN'S LIVES, 446 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,462 AND ONE OF THEM WOULD HAVE BEEN SEREENA ABOTSWAY'S LIFE, 447 00:23:40,549 --> 00:23:43,813 WHO WENT MISSING IN THE SUMMER OF 2001. 448 00:23:48,775 --> 00:23:51,691 SHE CAME BY TO SEE ME EVERY SINGLE NIGHT I WORKED. 449 00:23:51,778 --> 00:23:54,084 I KNEW HER FROM THE HOLDING CELLS, 450 00:23:54,171 --> 00:23:56,043 AND I KNEW HER SUBSEQUENTLY ON 451 00:23:56,130 --> 00:23:59,176 WHEN I WENT TO WORK ON THE HEALTH OUTREACH VAN. 452 00:23:59,263 --> 00:24:01,570 SEREENA WOULD SHOW UP AND SAY HI. 453 00:24:01,657 --> 00:24:05,400 "HI, MOM, JUST WANT TO TALK TO YOU." 454 00:24:05,487 --> 00:24:07,315 MY DAUGHTER KNEW HER. 455 00:24:07,402 --> 00:24:10,057 SHE WAS ACCEPTED. 456 00:24:10,144 --> 00:24:12,625 ON OCCASION, I'D GO TO THE COQUITLAM CENTRE 457 00:24:12,712 --> 00:24:15,584 AND I'D HEAR THIS VOICE, "MOM!" 458 00:24:15,671 --> 00:24:17,804 AND I'D LOOK OVER, AND THERE'S SEREENA. 459 00:24:17,891 --> 00:24:20,415 BLESS HER HEART, SHE'S RUNNING TOWARDS ME FOR A HUG, 460 00:24:20,502 --> 00:24:22,548 AND I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO GIVE HER A HUG, 461 00:24:22,635 --> 00:24:25,246 HER IN HER PINK SPANDEX, 462 00:24:25,333 --> 00:24:29,076 BUT THERE SHE IS, SHE WAS OUT VISITING HER FOSTER PARENTS. 463 00:24:29,163 --> 00:24:31,426 WE BUMPED INTO EACH OTHER. 464 00:24:32,862 --> 00:24:35,778 OTHER PEOPLE MAY WONDER, "WHO IS THIS GIRL?" 465 00:24:35,865 --> 00:24:39,260 SHE WAS MY GIRL FOR SO MANY YEARS... 466 00:24:40,827 --> 00:24:45,614 AND TO SEE THIS GIRL'S PICTURE APPEAR ON THAT POSTER 467 00:24:45,701 --> 00:24:48,487 WAS LIKE LOSING MY CHILD. 468 00:24:52,186 --> 00:24:54,797 MANY WILL ATTEST TO THAT, 469 00:24:54,884 --> 00:24:56,669 BECAUSE SHE WAS LIKE A CHILD TO ME. 470 00:24:56,756 --> 00:24:58,627 SHE WROTE ME LETTERS. 471 00:25:01,674 --> 00:25:05,155 -SHE'S KIND OF A FUNNY GIRL, GOOD SENSE OF HUMOUR, 472 00:25:05,242 --> 00:25:06,766 BUT HEAVILY ADDICTED TO DRUGS 473 00:25:06,853 --> 00:25:09,333 AND INTO THE PROSTITUTION SCENE IN A BIG WAY, 474 00:25:09,420 --> 00:25:12,728 SO SHE WAS QUITE VULNERABLE. 475 00:25:16,210 --> 00:25:18,168 WHAT'S YOUR FAVOURITE SONG? 476 00:25:18,255 --> 00:25:19,605 -SPICE GIRLS. 477 00:25:19,692 --> 00:25:22,782 -WHICH ONE? WHICH SONG, THOUGH? 478 00:25:23,783 --> 00:25:25,611 YOU LIKE THE SPICE GIRLS. 479 00:25:25,698 --> 00:25:28,570 -OH, YEAH, I LIKE THEM WELL, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER THE SONGS. 480 00:25:31,268 --> 00:25:32,966 -WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO IN FIVE YEARS? 481 00:25:33,053 --> 00:25:34,533 WHERE DO YOU WANT TO BE? WHAT DO YOU WANT TO BE DOING? 482 00:25:34,620 --> 00:25:35,664 -I WANT TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL, ACTUALLY, 483 00:25:35,751 --> 00:25:38,145 BECAUSE I QUIT SCHOOL 484 00:25:38,232 --> 00:25:39,494 WHEN I WAS IN, 485 00:25:39,581 --> 00:25:41,409 ACTUALLY, GRADE 8. 486 00:25:50,592 --> 00:25:53,160 -IF YOU LOOKED AT HER MEDICAL RECORDS, 487 00:25:53,247 --> 00:25:57,207 IT WOULD SHOW YOU THAT SHE WAS HUGELY TRAUMATIZED, 488 00:25:57,294 --> 00:26:00,646 BEATEN ALMOST TO DEATH, AND, YOU KNOW, 489 00:26:00,733 --> 00:26:03,300 HAVING PLASTIC SURGERY DONE TO HER HEAD 490 00:26:03,387 --> 00:26:06,216 AND PLATES PUT IN AND STUFF. 491 00:26:06,303 --> 00:26:08,349 SHE WAS, YOU KNOW, SAVAGELY RAPED, 492 00:26:08,436 --> 00:26:11,526 AND IT'S A WONDER SHE NEVER DIED EARLIER. 493 00:27:01,663 --> 00:27:03,230 -AREN'T YOU WORRIED ABOUT SOME STRANGER PICKING YOU UP? 494 00:27:03,317 --> 00:27:04,971 LIKE, WHAT IF THERE IS SOMEBODY GOING AROUND 495 00:27:05,058 --> 00:27:06,712 MURDERING ALL THESE GIRLS? 496 00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:07,887 AREN'T YOU WORRIED ABOUT THE NEXT TRICK YOU PULL 497 00:27:07,974 --> 00:27:09,584 MIGHT BE HIM? 498 00:27:09,671 --> 00:27:12,848 -YEAH, BUT I ALWAYS GO BY MY SIXTH SENSE. 499 00:27:12,935 --> 00:27:14,763 -INSTINCT. -YEAH. 500 00:27:14,850 --> 00:27:16,852 IF I DON'T LIKE THE WAY THE GUY IS, 501 00:27:16,939 --> 00:27:19,289 THEN I WON'T GO WITH HIM. 502 00:27:22,466 --> 00:27:25,513 -YOU KILLED SEREENA AND MONA, AGREED? 503 00:27:27,820 --> 00:27:29,822 WELL, IT'S A SIMPLE QUESTION. 504 00:27:32,607 --> 00:27:34,957 ALL RIGHT. 505 00:27:36,698 --> 00:27:38,221 ALL RIGHT. 506 00:27:38,308 --> 00:27:39,658 -I WON'T ADMIT TO ANYTHING YET, BUT GO AHEAD. 507 00:27:39,745 --> 00:27:41,355 -WOULD I BE RIGHT IN SAYING, WILLY, 508 00:27:41,442 --> 00:27:43,749 THAT YOU HAD REACHED THE STAGE 509 00:27:43,836 --> 00:27:46,403 WHERE YOU JUST NO LONGER SORT OF REALLY VIEWED THESE GIRLS 510 00:27:46,490 --> 00:27:47,927 AS BEING WORTH ANYTHING? 511 00:27:48,014 --> 00:27:49,232 -MM-HMM. 512 00:27:49,319 --> 00:27:50,538 -AND YOU'D KILL... 513 00:28:26,530 --> 00:28:28,532 -SHE DOESN'T WANT TO HARBOUR ON WHAT HAPPENED 514 00:28:28,619 --> 00:28:30,099 IN HER PHYSICAL BODY 515 00:28:30,186 --> 00:28:32,319 BECAUSE SHE WANTS TO BE REMEMBERED AS A SPIRIT, 516 00:28:32,406 --> 00:28:34,974 BUT SHE WANTS TO SAY 517 00:28:35,061 --> 00:28:39,369 THAT EVERY SORT OF UNIMAGINABLE THING 518 00:28:39,456 --> 00:28:43,373 THAT YOU CAN IMAGINE COULD HAPPEN TO A PHYSICAL BODY, 519 00:28:43,460 --> 00:28:45,549 HAPPENED TO HER, 520 00:28:45,636 --> 00:28:47,290 BUT HER SPIRIT SHINES LIGHTER, 521 00:28:47,377 --> 00:28:49,989 AND THAT'S WHAT SHE WANTS TO GET OVER TO PEOPLE, 522 00:28:50,076 --> 00:28:52,818 THAT NO MATTER WHAT THE PHYSICAL GOES THROUGH, 523 00:28:52,905 --> 00:28:53,993 THE SPIRIT SHINES. 524 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,344 SHE'S SO EMPHATIC ABOUT THAT. 525 00:28:58,432 --> 00:28:59,912 SHE'S HERE. 526 00:28:59,999 --> 00:29:01,870 THEY'RE ALL HERE WHEN YOU'RE WORKING ON THEM. 527 00:29:04,655 --> 00:29:06,222 [EXHALES] 528 00:29:11,010 --> 00:29:12,663 I'M SORRY, I'VE GOT TO SAY THIS. 529 00:29:12,751 --> 00:29:14,491 "MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS." 530 00:29:14,578 --> 00:29:15,841 THAT'S WHAT SHE SAYS. 531 00:29:15,928 --> 00:29:19,061 IT'S LIKE, "GET OUT OF MY LIFE." 532 00:29:19,148 --> 00:29:20,671 WHEN SHE'S GOT LOVE, 533 00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:21,847 I'M SURE IF SHE WAS IN LOVE, 534 00:29:21,934 --> 00:29:23,457 SHE'D LOVE THIS, BUT SHE'S NOT. 535 00:29:23,544 --> 00:29:25,633 SHE'S PISSED. 536 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,809 THE PART OF THEM THAT DOESN'T WANT TO BE REVEALED 537 00:29:27,896 --> 00:29:29,724 IS THEIR EGO, 538 00:29:29,811 --> 00:29:31,857 BUT YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR JOB IS? 539 00:29:31,944 --> 00:29:34,598 THIS IS PART OF HER HEALING, AND, AT LONG LAST, 540 00:29:34,685 --> 00:29:36,862 BOTH SIDES HAVE TO BE SHOWN. 541 00:29:36,949 --> 00:29:40,561 I'M GETTING BIG TINGLES WITH THAT. 542 00:29:44,826 --> 00:29:46,959 THEY HAVEN'T GOT A LOT OF CHOICE NOW, LOVE. 543 00:29:47,046 --> 00:29:49,526 ONE OF THE MANY REASONS YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO DO THIS 544 00:29:49,613 --> 00:29:51,920 IS TO FACILITATE THEIR HEALING. 545 00:29:55,576 --> 00:29:57,752 OH, SOULS GO ON MANY JOURNEYS. 546 00:29:57,839 --> 00:29:59,928 YOU KNOW THAT. YOU'VE DONE THAT. 547 00:30:00,015 --> 00:30:01,451 THAT'S BEEN YOUR JOURNEY. 548 00:30:01,538 --> 00:30:03,018 THAT'S WHY YOU'RE STRONG ENOUGH TO DO THIS 549 00:30:03,105 --> 00:30:06,674 BECAUSE YOU'VE DONE IT IN YOUR OWN LIFE. 550 00:30:08,719 --> 00:30:10,809 -MAYBE IT WAS THE ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIPS 551 00:30:10,896 --> 00:30:12,375 THAT I USED TO ATTRACT IN MY LIFE. 552 00:30:12,462 --> 00:30:15,030 LIKE, YOU KNOW, MY FATHER WAS REALLY ABUSIVE, 553 00:30:15,117 --> 00:30:17,816 AND I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE... 554 00:30:19,513 --> 00:30:21,123 I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE 555 00:30:21,210 --> 00:30:23,778 TO HAVE A FATHER, LIKE, TO GROW UP WITH A FATHER, 556 00:30:23,865 --> 00:30:26,085 AND SO THE ROLE OF A MALE IN MY LIFE 557 00:30:26,172 --> 00:30:28,130 HAS REALLY... 558 00:30:29,958 --> 00:30:32,613 IT WAS ALMOST LIKE THIS PATTERN I HAD CREATED, 559 00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:37,400 SO I WOULD ATTRACT TO ME THE SAME TYPE OF MAN, 560 00:30:37,487 --> 00:30:40,403 AN ABUSIVE MAN, 561 00:30:40,490 --> 00:30:43,929 AND I WOULD FEEL SHACKLED AND BOUND TO THIS LOVE 562 00:30:44,016 --> 00:30:47,454 BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WAS LOVE, YOU KNOW? 563 00:30:47,541 --> 00:30:53,503 I THOUGHT THAT I NEEDED TO BE ABUSED TO BE LOVED. 564 00:30:53,590 --> 00:30:55,810 WAKING UP AND YOU HAVE PURPLE ARMS 565 00:30:55,897 --> 00:30:59,031 BECAUSE YOU WERE BOUND TO A BED AND BEATEN, YOU KNOW? 566 00:30:59,118 --> 00:31:00,946 LIKE, THINGS THAT I'VE REALLY EXPERIENCED 567 00:31:01,033 --> 00:31:03,644 WHERE I HAD TO BE STRONG ENOUGH TO BREAK OUT OF. 568 00:31:06,212 --> 00:31:08,388 I STARTED DOING THESE PHOTOS, 569 00:31:08,475 --> 00:31:12,653 THESE PHOTOS OF THE PHOTOGRAPHER FRIEND OF MINE, 570 00:31:12,740 --> 00:31:15,917 AND I WOULD TALK ABOUT ISSUES OF BOUNDARIES, 571 00:31:16,004 --> 00:31:19,486 AND I GUESS SOME DEEP-SEATED ISSUES 572 00:31:19,573 --> 00:31:23,664 ABOUT LIFE AND DEATH AND... 573 00:31:25,622 --> 00:31:27,059 I'M REALLY AT THE BEGINNING OF IT, 574 00:31:27,146 --> 00:31:28,669 SO I'M SHOWING YOU SOMETHING RIGHT NOW 575 00:31:28,756 --> 00:31:32,020 THAT YOU WOULDN'T NORMALLY SEE 576 00:31:32,107 --> 00:31:33,369 IN THE END RESULT. 577 00:31:33,456 --> 00:31:36,024 LIKE, I WOULDN'T HAVE THIS ON SHOW. 578 00:31:36,111 --> 00:31:37,634 I REALLY WANTED TO BECOME 579 00:31:37,721 --> 00:31:39,810 A LOT MORE PERSONAL ABOUT MY WORK, 580 00:31:39,898 --> 00:31:42,509 LIKE, JUST REALLY GET WHAT'S IN HERE. 581 00:31:42,596 --> 00:31:44,990 GET IT OUT. 582 00:31:45,077 --> 00:31:47,775 MY OWN SHIT, YOU KNOW? 583 00:31:54,042 --> 00:31:55,565 THIS WORK IS MORE BLATANTLY SEXUAL 584 00:31:55,652 --> 00:31:57,219 THAN MY OTHER WORK. 585 00:31:57,306 --> 00:31:59,830 I GUESS THE RELATIONSHIP TO THE WOMEN 586 00:31:59,918 --> 00:32:02,268 COULD BE SOMETHING TO DO WITH POWER WITHIN SOCIETY, 587 00:32:02,355 --> 00:32:06,359 HOW WE USE IT AND ABUSE IT, OURSELVES AND OTHERS. 588 00:32:07,795 --> 00:32:09,536 I FIND THAT A LOT OF MY LANDSCAPES, 589 00:32:09,623 --> 00:32:12,887 MY REALLY, YOU KNOW, THE ETHEREAL, YOU KNOW... 590 00:32:12,974 --> 00:32:17,022 I TEND TO CALL THEM INNER LANDSCAPES. 591 00:32:17,109 --> 00:32:21,287 I FIND THEM TO BE A LITTLE BIT PRETTY. 592 00:32:23,071 --> 00:32:27,554 AND PEOPLE WILL COMMENT IN A SIMILAR CAPACITY, 593 00:32:27,641 --> 00:32:29,948 AND I JUST, I THINK INSIDE OF ME, 594 00:32:30,035 --> 00:32:31,210 ARTISTICALLY, 595 00:32:31,297 --> 00:32:33,081 I FEEL LIKE I WANT TO SAY MORE, 596 00:32:33,168 --> 00:32:34,648 LIKE SOMETHING MORE 597 00:32:34,735 --> 00:32:37,216 BENEATH THE SURFACE OF THAT PRETTY PAINTING, 598 00:32:37,303 --> 00:32:42,090 YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'S THINGS THAT ARE UNSAID 599 00:32:42,177 --> 00:32:45,311 AND HIDDEN AND EXPERIENCED AND SECRETS. 600 00:32:50,838 --> 00:32:53,710 THE LAST YEAR OF MY CAREER HAS BEEN SO BUSY, 601 00:32:53,797 --> 00:32:55,974 THAT I ACTUALLY TOOK A VACATION. 602 00:32:56,061 --> 00:32:57,497 WHEN I CAME BACK, 603 00:32:57,584 --> 00:33:00,587 I WENT INTO THE GALLERY WHO I SIGNED WITH. 604 00:33:00,674 --> 00:33:04,156 LIKE, I JUST WENT IN TO SAY HI, AND THEY OFFERED ME A SHOW. 605 00:33:04,243 --> 00:33:07,637 THE DIRECTOR IS ON THE WAY TODAY, OF THE GALLERY, 606 00:33:07,724 --> 00:33:10,075 TO SEE WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING. 607 00:33:10,162 --> 00:33:12,816 OUR LAST CONVERSATION, 608 00:33:12,903 --> 00:33:14,644 SHE SAID THAT THERE'S WORK 609 00:33:14,731 --> 00:33:16,603 THAT SHE'S LIKELY NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SHOW 610 00:33:16,690 --> 00:33:20,041 BECAUSE IT'S TOO EXPLICIT IN NATURE, 611 00:33:20,128 --> 00:33:22,870 AND THERE'S THAT PART OF ME THAT UNDERSTANDS, RIGHT, 612 00:33:22,957 --> 00:33:26,091 "OKAY, WELL, THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO SELL THE WORK. 613 00:33:26,178 --> 00:33:27,657 THEY WANT TO BE CONFIDENT IN THAT." 614 00:33:27,744 --> 00:33:28,789 AND THE OTHER PART OF ME WAS JUST LIKE, 615 00:33:28,876 --> 00:33:30,486 "YOU KNOW WHAT? 616 00:33:30,573 --> 00:33:33,881 I'M GOING TO PAINT WHAT THE FUCK I WANT TO PAINT." 617 00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:37,972 IN THE END, I HID A LOT OF THE IMAGES 618 00:33:38,059 --> 00:33:40,888 UNDERNEATH THE PAINTINGS. 619 00:33:42,803 --> 00:33:46,328 IT WAS LIKE I WAS PAINTING THESE IMAGES OF MYSELF... 620 00:33:48,069 --> 00:33:50,767 AND WHAT LIVES UNDERNEATH. 621 00:33:50,854 --> 00:33:54,119 AND I JUST WONDER WHAT'S IT ALL FOR, YOU KNOW? 622 00:33:54,206 --> 00:33:56,382 WHY AM I LIKE THIS? 623 00:34:01,387 --> 00:34:03,693 AND I JUST FEEL LIKE I'M SEARCHING FOR MEANING 624 00:34:03,780 --> 00:34:06,305 OR SOMETHING STUPID. 625 00:34:06,392 --> 00:34:09,003 -WHEN YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING 626 00:34:09,090 --> 00:34:12,311 THAT'S THAT EVIL AND THAT DARK, 627 00:34:12,398 --> 00:34:15,923 YOU KNOW, YOU'RE CHOOSING TO PAINT ABOUT IT... 628 00:34:18,926 --> 00:34:21,798 YOU'RE GOING TO ATTRACT, 629 00:34:21,885 --> 00:34:24,714 YOU KNOW, MORE DARKNESS. 630 00:34:24,801 --> 00:34:28,240 IT'S LIKE PULLING THE PIN OFF A HAND GRENADE, I THINK. 631 00:34:38,989 --> 00:34:41,122 [LIGHT PARTY CHATTER] 632 00:35:00,794 --> 00:35:01,925 -IT FEELS GOOD TO HAVE MY SHOW UP, 633 00:35:02,012 --> 00:35:03,623 BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? 634 00:35:03,710 --> 00:35:05,059 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE ALL I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT 635 00:35:05,146 --> 00:35:06,452 IS THE PROJECT, THE FORGOTTEN PROJECT. 636 00:35:06,539 --> 00:35:10,020 EVEN THOUGH I'M HERE IN PERSON, 637 00:35:10,108 --> 00:35:12,632 I THINK THAT I'M ALWAYS, LIKE, 638 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,243 ALMOST OBSESSIVE ABOUT THE PROJECT, 639 00:35:15,330 --> 00:35:20,074 BECAUSE I REALLY WANT TO FINISH IT. 640 00:35:20,161 --> 00:35:22,076 YEAH. 641 00:35:24,426 --> 00:35:26,472 -WASSUP? 642 00:35:27,821 --> 00:35:29,344 -WASSUP! 643 00:35:31,825 --> 00:35:33,131 I'M REALLY PROTECTIVE. 644 00:35:33,218 --> 00:35:35,220 LIKE, IT'S GREAT FOR HIM TO BE THERE 645 00:35:35,307 --> 00:35:36,786 AT MY SHOWS AND STUFF, 646 00:35:36,873 --> 00:35:39,398 BUT I WANT TO BE PROTECTIVE ABOUT IT, 647 00:35:39,485 --> 00:35:43,184 SO I JUST KIND OF TRY TO SEPARATE THE TWO 648 00:35:43,271 --> 00:35:45,404 A LITTLE BIT. 649 00:35:47,145 --> 00:35:51,671 I WAS GOING THROUGH A BIT OF A SEPARATION AND HAD A BABY. 650 00:35:51,758 --> 00:35:53,325 I FIGURED THAT IT WOULD GIVE ME MORE STABILITY 651 00:35:53,412 --> 00:35:56,415 IF I WAS WORKING FOR A GALLERY. 652 00:35:56,502 --> 00:35:57,981 I WORE A SUIT EVERY DAY, 653 00:35:58,068 --> 00:36:00,201 AND I WAS TRYING TO SELL OTHER PEOPLE'S ART, 654 00:36:00,288 --> 00:36:03,857 AND THEN IT JUST REALLY GOT ME... 655 00:36:03,944 --> 00:36:05,815 INSPIRED, YOU KNOW, 656 00:36:05,902 --> 00:36:07,295 TO SEE ALL THAT AMAZING WORK, 657 00:36:07,382 --> 00:36:09,167 AND SO I WOULD GO HOME 658 00:36:09,254 --> 00:36:12,387 AND, YOU KNOW, I'D BE THERE WITH MY TWO-YEAR-OLD, 659 00:36:12,474 --> 00:36:15,434 TRYING TO BE... 660 00:36:15,521 --> 00:36:17,958 TRYING TO WORK PART-TIME AND BE A MOM 661 00:36:18,045 --> 00:36:20,134 AND ALL THAT KIND OF THING, 662 00:36:20,221 --> 00:36:22,136 AND HE WOULD GO TO SLEEP, 663 00:36:22,223 --> 00:36:26,749 AND I WOULD PAINT FEVERISHLY UNTIL 3:00 IN THE MORNING, 664 00:36:26,836 --> 00:36:30,013 JUST NUTS, 665 00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:32,320 AND THAT'S WHAT GOT ME THROUGH. 666 00:36:43,897 --> 00:36:47,814 -I SAW A NEWS REPORT, I BELIEVE IT WAS 1963, 667 00:36:47,901 --> 00:36:52,210 WHERE THERE WAS A CONCERN BY THE MAYOR OF VANCOUVER, 668 00:36:52,297 --> 00:36:55,474 WHO, YOU KNOW, WAS TALKING ABOUT NATIVE WOMEN 669 00:36:55,561 --> 00:36:58,303 BEING MURDERED IN THE DOWNTOWN EASTSIDE, 670 00:36:58,390 --> 00:37:02,481 AND WANTED TO CONDUCT SOME KIND OF INVESTIGATION OF THAT. 671 00:37:02,568 --> 00:37:05,527 THIS WAS 1963. 672 00:37:05,614 --> 00:37:08,226 THIS ISN'T NEW. 673 00:37:09,444 --> 00:37:10,837 -THE THING THAT STOOD OUT TO ME THE MOST 674 00:37:10,924 --> 00:37:13,883 WAS THE NUMBER OF FIRST NATION WOMEN 675 00:37:13,970 --> 00:37:16,234 THAT WERE ON THIS POSTER. 676 00:37:16,321 --> 00:37:19,280 -IT'S A WELL-RESEARCHED POPULATION, 677 00:37:19,367 --> 00:37:22,240 AND IN DIFFERENT SAMPLES, 678 00:37:22,327 --> 00:37:24,154 THE PERCENTAGE OF ABORIGINAL WOMEN 679 00:37:24,242 --> 00:37:26,766 FAR EXCEEDS THE PROPORTION 680 00:37:26,853 --> 00:37:30,291 IN THE POPULATION OF STREET-INVOLVED WOMEN, 681 00:37:30,378 --> 00:37:32,032 AND THE TRUTH OF IT IS 682 00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:35,035 YOU'VE GOT THE EFFECT OF 200 YEARS OF COLONIZATION 683 00:37:35,122 --> 00:37:37,864 ON ABORIGINAL PEOPLES. 684 00:37:37,951 --> 00:37:43,435 -WHAT I SEE THROUGH ANALYSIS AND ACADEMIA 685 00:37:43,522 --> 00:37:48,222 STEMS FROM INTERFERENCE OF SOME KIND. 686 00:37:48,309 --> 00:37:50,050 INTERFERENCE OF GOVERNMENT, 687 00:37:50,137 --> 00:37:51,878 EITHER THROUGH RESIDENTIAL SCHOOL, 688 00:37:51,965 --> 00:37:54,837 THROUGH FORCED RELOCATION, 689 00:37:54,924 --> 00:37:58,363 THROUGH CHILDREN BEING ADOPTED OUT. 690 00:37:58,450 --> 00:38:00,103 -BASICALLY, WHAT MY FATHER WAS TELLING ME 691 00:38:00,190 --> 00:38:04,064 IS THAT IT WASN'T JUST ABOUT CORPORAL PUNISHMENT 692 00:38:04,151 --> 00:38:06,849 AND BEING DEPRIVED GOOD FOOD, 693 00:38:06,936 --> 00:38:10,026 BUT IT WAS AN ALL-OUT ASSAULT ON THE CULTURE AND THE VALUES 694 00:38:10,113 --> 00:38:12,812 AND THE LIFESTYLES OF ABORIGINAL PEOPLE. 695 00:38:12,899 --> 00:38:16,337 I THINK HE WAS MADE TO FEEL ASHAMED OF WHO HE WAS. 696 00:38:16,424 --> 00:38:19,558 -AND THE MESSAGE WAS VERY, VERY CLEAR, 697 00:38:19,645 --> 00:38:23,518 THAT IN ORDER TO CIVILIZE THE SAVAGE OF THE COUNTRY, 698 00:38:23,605 --> 00:38:26,434 YOU NEEDED TO BREAK APART 699 00:38:26,521 --> 00:38:29,307 THE RESPECT AND THE PLACE OF WOMEN, 700 00:38:29,394 --> 00:38:32,919 AND THE MEN ACQUIRED THE SKILL OF DEMEANING THEIR WOMEN, 701 00:38:33,006 --> 00:38:35,051 OF PUTTING THEM IN A LOWER PLACE THAN THEM, 702 00:38:35,138 --> 00:38:37,402 AND ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY AND OTHER WAYS 703 00:38:37,489 --> 00:38:39,142 ABUSING THOSE WOMEN. 704 00:38:39,229 --> 00:38:41,014 SO, WHEN THESE YOUNG BOYS AND THESE YOUNG GIRLS 705 00:38:41,101 --> 00:38:42,407 ARE WATCHING THIS, 706 00:38:42,494 --> 00:38:43,843 WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY RELATE TO 707 00:38:43,930 --> 00:38:45,323 WHEN THEY GET INTO A RELATIONSHIP? 708 00:38:45,410 --> 00:38:46,933 IT JUST KEEPS GETTING HANDED DOWN, 709 00:38:47,020 --> 00:38:48,891 GENERATION TO GENERATION. 710 00:38:48,978 --> 00:38:51,024 I THINK IT'S SOCIETY'S ACCEPTANCE 711 00:38:51,111 --> 00:38:54,462 THAT THE 500 MISSING WOMEN FROM THE ABORIGINAL COMMUNITY 712 00:38:54,549 --> 00:38:55,942 ARE NOT IMPORTANT 713 00:38:56,029 --> 00:38:58,510 IN THE OVERALL GROWTH OF THE COUNTRY. 714 00:39:13,089 --> 00:39:15,396 -WELL, IN THE VERY EARLY YEARS WHEN SHE CAME TO LIVE WITH US, 715 00:39:15,483 --> 00:39:17,572 SHE WAS ALWAYS... 716 00:39:17,659 --> 00:39:20,314 SHE GREW INTO A VERY BEAUTIFUL YOUNG WOMAN, 717 00:39:20,401 --> 00:39:23,448 BUT SHE WAS EXTREMELY CUTE AS A LITTLE GIRL, 718 00:39:23,535 --> 00:39:27,365 AND VERY OUTGOING AND VERY CREATIVE. 719 00:39:27,452 --> 00:39:29,628 SHE LOVED TO DRAW. 720 00:39:29,715 --> 00:39:33,371 SHE LOVED TO ACT, TO PERFORM, 721 00:39:33,458 --> 00:39:37,287 TO DO ANYTHING THAT INVOLVED IMAGINATION. 722 00:39:37,375 --> 00:39:41,988 -I LOOKED AT SARAH AS A VERY INTELLIGENT YOUNG LADY, 723 00:39:42,075 --> 00:39:44,294 AND SHE WAS. 724 00:39:44,382 --> 00:39:48,560 INTELLIGENT, BRIGHT, WITTY. 725 00:39:49,561 --> 00:39:52,172 KNEW WHAT SHE WANTED. 726 00:39:52,259 --> 00:39:53,956 WAS WORKING. 727 00:39:54,043 --> 00:39:56,568 KNEW SHE WAS WORKING. KNEW WHAT SHE WAS SELLING... 728 00:40:00,354 --> 00:40:02,487 AND SHE SOLD IT TO ME. 729 00:40:03,966 --> 00:40:07,274 THE MORE I GOT TO KNOW HER, THE MORE I GOT TO LOVE HER, 730 00:40:07,361 --> 00:40:11,496 AND I WISH THIS WOULD HAVE STARTED OUT DIFFERENT. 731 00:40:11,583 --> 00:40:15,064 I WISH I COULD HAVE MET HER UNDER DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES. 732 00:40:27,163 --> 00:40:29,078 -THIS IS HEROIN RIGHT HERE. 733 00:40:29,165 --> 00:40:34,040 I CAN DO THAT IN ONE FIX, AND IT BARELY EVEN BOTHERS ME. 734 00:40:37,130 --> 00:40:39,393 I'M PRETTY MUCH NUMB TO IT, I GUESS, 735 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,047 BECAUSE I DON'T GET HIGH OFF IT ANYMORE. 736 00:40:41,134 --> 00:40:43,310 IT JUST MAKES ME NORMAL. 737 00:40:43,397 --> 00:40:47,532 IT JUST MAKES ME ABLE TO FUNCTION. 738 00:40:47,619 --> 00:40:51,623 I FEEL GOOD, BUT I'M NOT PARTICULARLY TOTALLY HAPPY... 739 00:40:54,060 --> 00:40:56,715 BECAUSE IT'S LIKE CARRYING 740 00:40:56,802 --> 00:40:59,544 A BIG BALL AND CHAIN AROUND WITH YOU 741 00:40:59,631 --> 00:41:01,284 FOR A PART OF YOUR LIFE. 742 00:41:02,808 --> 00:41:05,288 I WENT TO JAIL FOR A WHILE, GO FOR SIX MONTHS, 743 00:41:05,375 --> 00:41:06,942 AND THEY MADE ME QUIT COLD TURKEY, 744 00:41:07,029 --> 00:41:08,727 AND IT WAS... 745 00:41:08,814 --> 00:41:10,642 I WOULD RATHER HAVE BEEN DEAD. 746 00:41:14,036 --> 00:41:16,386 IT HURTS WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE IT. 747 00:41:16,474 --> 00:41:18,476 IT PHYSICALLY HURTS. 748 00:41:20,652 --> 00:41:24,351 -YOUNG GIRLS IN PARTICULAR WHO ENDED UP ON THE STREET 749 00:41:24,438 --> 00:41:27,441 INVARIABLY, THROUGH MY INTERVIEWS WITH THEM, 750 00:41:27,528 --> 00:41:31,663 I FOUND THAT OVER 80% OF THEM HAD BEEN SEXUALLY ABUSED, 751 00:41:31,750 --> 00:41:34,317 AND A LOT OF THEM CAME FROM GROUP HOMES 752 00:41:34,404 --> 00:41:35,928 AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 753 00:41:36,015 --> 00:41:38,844 THEY PREFER THE STREET OVER THEIR OWN HOME. 754 00:41:39,801 --> 00:41:42,021 IF YOU LOOK AT THE "BAD DATE" LIST, 755 00:41:42,108 --> 00:41:43,892 THERE'S DOZENS... 756 00:41:43,979 --> 00:41:48,244 THERE'S SCORES OF TWISTED, PERVERTED, VIOLENT MEN OUT THERE 757 00:41:48,331 --> 00:41:50,290 PREYING ON THESE WOMEN. 758 00:41:50,377 --> 00:41:52,466 IF THEY'RE NOT KILLING THEM, THEY'RE KILLING THEIR SOUL, 759 00:41:52,553 --> 00:41:56,775 AND THEN THE DRUGS WERE A WAY OF COPING WITH THAT ABUSE 760 00:41:56,862 --> 00:41:59,125 AND COPING WITH THE LIFESTYLE 761 00:41:59,212 --> 00:42:00,561 THAT THEY'D FOUND THEMSELVES INTO 762 00:42:00,648 --> 00:42:03,651 TO SUSTAIN THEIR HABIT. 763 00:42:03,738 --> 00:42:05,218 I MEAN, THE BIGGEST PIMP 764 00:42:05,305 --> 00:42:08,221 OF ALL THE LOW-CLASS WORKING GIRL DOWN THERE, 765 00:42:08,308 --> 00:42:10,702 THE LOW-CLASS STROLL, 766 00:42:10,789 --> 00:42:12,399 ARE DRUGS. 767 00:42:12,486 --> 00:42:13,792 -IT'S HARD TO PROCESS, 768 00:42:13,879 --> 00:42:16,577 AND SO YOU START TO USE DRUGS TO COPE. 769 00:42:16,664 --> 00:42:18,623 THE AMAZING THING ABOUT CRACK COCAINE 770 00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:21,277 IS THAT IT WILL WIPE YOUR MEMORY RIGHT NOW. 771 00:42:21,364 --> 00:42:22,757 IT TOTALLY NUMBS YOU 772 00:42:22,844 --> 00:42:25,586 AND STOPS THAT ANXIETY, THE PANIC, 773 00:42:25,673 --> 00:42:27,414 THE FEELINGS THAT COME 774 00:42:27,501 --> 00:42:31,157 WITH THAT KIND OF POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS BEING TRIGGERED. 775 00:42:35,509 --> 00:42:36,771 -I CAN RELATE TO THE MISSING WOMEN 776 00:42:36,858 --> 00:42:38,381 BECAUSE OF THE ADDICTION. 777 00:42:38,468 --> 00:42:40,775 A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL JUST LOOK AT ADDICTION 778 00:42:40,862 --> 00:42:43,735 AS SOME KIND OF, A PROBLEM OF WILLPOWER. 779 00:42:43,822 --> 00:42:46,259 "WELL, JUST STOP!" 780 00:42:46,346 --> 00:42:48,087 IT'S NOT THAT EASY. 781 00:42:48,174 --> 00:42:50,306 I'M THE GUY WHO'S WEARING THE SUIT AND TIE TO COURT, 782 00:42:50,393 --> 00:42:54,397 BUT AS 2007 STARTED AND THE PICKTON CASE STARTED, 783 00:42:54,484 --> 00:42:56,356 MY ADDICTION WAS DEEPENING. 784 00:42:56,443 --> 00:42:59,359 I WAS DOING HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF CRACK COCAINE A DAY, 785 00:42:59,446 --> 00:43:02,536 AT TIMES HEROIN AS WELL. 786 00:43:02,623 --> 00:43:03,885 THERE WERE TIMES 787 00:43:03,972 --> 00:43:05,670 WHEN I WAS SO OBSESSIVE-COMPULSIVE 788 00:43:05,757 --> 00:43:07,323 ABOUT MY CRACK COCAINE USE, 789 00:43:07,410 --> 00:43:09,587 THAT I WAS LEAVING THIS COURTHOUSE BEHIND US, 790 00:43:09,674 --> 00:43:11,719 GOING DOWN TO THE DOCKS AND SMOKING CRACK, 791 00:43:11,806 --> 00:43:15,505 AND THEN COMING BACK AND COVERING THE COURT. 792 00:43:15,593 --> 00:43:18,683 TO LEAVE THE COURTROOM, GO AND FILE MY STORY, 793 00:43:18,770 --> 00:43:21,207 AND THEN GO AND GET HIGH. 794 00:43:21,294 --> 00:43:23,252 I'M OUT DOING HEAVY ILLICIT DRUGS, 795 00:43:23,339 --> 00:43:27,387 AND I'M SURROUNDED BY SHERIFFS, POLICE, LAWYERS, 796 00:43:27,474 --> 00:43:29,171 AND A SUPREME COURT JUDGE, 797 00:43:29,258 --> 00:43:32,697 AND A SERIAL KILLER SITTING RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. 798 00:43:32,784 --> 00:43:35,830 A LOT OF TIMES, IT GOT TO THE POINT 799 00:43:35,917 --> 00:43:38,441 WHERE IT JUST WASN'T COMPUTING IN MY HEAD ANYMORE. 800 00:43:38,528 --> 00:43:40,661 IT WAS JUST SO CONFUSING. 801 00:43:40,748 --> 00:43:42,141 ONCE YOU START USING, 802 00:43:42,228 --> 00:43:44,578 YOU WILL OBSESSIVELY THINK ABOUT IT, 803 00:43:44,665 --> 00:43:46,406 AND YOU WILL ACT COMPULSIVELY. 804 00:43:46,493 --> 00:43:51,106 YOU WILL VOID ALL VALUABLE RELATIONSHIPS IN YOUR LIFE. 805 00:43:51,193 --> 00:43:54,457 YOU WILL NOT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT ANYTHING. 806 00:43:54,544 --> 00:43:56,503 ALL YOU WANT IS THAT DRUG. 807 00:43:56,590 --> 00:43:58,592 SO, IF A BEAT-UP OLD TRUCK 808 00:43:58,679 --> 00:44:01,639 WITH SOME FILTHY MAN STINKING OF PIG SHIT 809 00:44:01,726 --> 00:44:06,252 COMES UP AND OFFERS A HANDFUL OF CRACK COCAINE, 810 00:44:06,339 --> 00:44:07,383 YOU'RE GOING TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES 811 00:44:07,470 --> 00:44:10,691 TO GET WHAT'S IN HIS HAND. 812 00:44:39,459 --> 00:44:42,288 -I DON'T REALLY CONSIDER MYSELF A PORTRAIT ARTIST. 813 00:44:42,375 --> 00:44:43,898 I CAN LOOK AT ONE FACE 814 00:44:43,985 --> 00:44:46,684 AND LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT'S WRONG WITH IT 815 00:44:46,771 --> 00:44:50,731 ON A, LIKE, A TECHNICAL LEVEL, 816 00:44:50,818 --> 00:44:52,254 AND IT'S ALWAYS A QUESTION FOR ME. 817 00:44:52,341 --> 00:44:56,258 AM I REALLY SAYING WHAT I WANT TO SAY? 818 00:45:14,581 --> 00:45:17,715 -SOME PEOPLE HAVE BOUGHT SOME STRANGER THINGS THAN THIS. 819 00:45:19,499 --> 00:45:24,678 -I'M KIND OF MAKING MY WORK A BIT MORE CONTEMPORARY IN FEEL, 820 00:45:24,765 --> 00:45:25,897 YOU KNOW, AND CHANGING IT UP A BIT, 821 00:45:25,984 --> 00:45:28,987 CHALLENGING THE VIEWER... 822 00:45:30,292 --> 00:45:34,644 TALKING ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO SPEAK, 823 00:45:34,732 --> 00:45:36,908 YOU KNOW, IF YOUR MOUTH IS STAPLED. 824 00:45:36,995 --> 00:45:38,561 I GUESS IT'S A PRETTY HARSH WAY OF SAYING IT, 825 00:45:38,648 --> 00:45:42,304 BUT IN A WAY IT'S NOT SOMETHING 826 00:45:42,391 --> 00:45:44,089 THAT SOMEONE WOULD RECOGNIZE EASILY, 827 00:45:44,176 --> 00:45:48,441 AND WHEN THEY DISCOVER WHAT IT IS IN THE PAINTING, 828 00:45:48,528 --> 00:45:51,661 I THINK THE REACTION IS STRONGER THAN WITHOUT IT. 829 00:45:57,798 --> 00:46:01,367 A LOT OF TIMES AS A YOUNGSTER, AS A TEENAGER GROWING UP, 830 00:46:01,454 --> 00:46:04,805 I REMEMBER FEELING THIS IN SO MANY WAYS, 831 00:46:04,892 --> 00:46:07,547 THAT SEXUALITY AND A WOMAN'S WORTH 832 00:46:07,634 --> 00:46:10,637 WAS REALLY DEPENDENT ON THE OUTER APPEARANCE, 833 00:46:10,724 --> 00:46:14,859 AND I THINK IN MEDIA AND OUR CULTURE, POP CULTURE, 834 00:46:14,946 --> 00:46:19,689 WE REALLY HAVE A DISPLACEMENT OF THOSE VALUES. 835 00:46:22,388 --> 00:46:23,693 YOU KNOW? 836 00:46:23,781 --> 00:46:25,695 THIS IS HOW SHE MADE A LIVING. 837 00:46:26,740 --> 00:46:28,786 THE FACT THAT I'M PREPARING TWO CANVASES, 838 00:46:28,873 --> 00:46:31,789 ONE THAT HAS PORNOGRAPHIC IMAGES 839 00:46:31,876 --> 00:46:35,618 BESIDE THIS RELIGIOUS-FEELING, 840 00:46:35,705 --> 00:46:39,884 RIGHT AND WRONG KIND OF THING, 841 00:46:39,971 --> 00:46:43,539 YEAH, IT MAKES ME QUESTION A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT, WELL, 842 00:46:43,626 --> 00:46:44,845 EVEN SOCIETY, RIGHT? 843 00:46:44,932 --> 00:46:46,455 LIKE, THIS IS RIGHT. 844 00:46:46,542 --> 00:46:49,894 IT HAS TO BE RIGHT BECAUSE WE VALIDATE IT. 845 00:46:51,504 --> 00:46:52,853 AND SO WHAT I'M DOING 846 00:46:52,940 --> 00:46:55,421 IS I'M KIND OF MAKING THIS WHITE VEIL 847 00:46:55,508 --> 00:46:57,597 BENEATH THOSE IMAGES 848 00:46:57,684 --> 00:46:59,904 AND THE FACE THAT I'LL PAINT. 849 00:46:59,991 --> 00:47:03,821 I'M TRYING TO TELL THE VIEWER SOMETHING. 850 00:47:13,613 --> 00:47:16,007 -WITH PAMELA'S PAINTINGS, 851 00:47:16,094 --> 00:47:19,053 THE WAY I FOUND OUT ABOUT THEM WAS REALLY UNFORTUNATE. 852 00:47:19,140 --> 00:47:20,925 I WAS CALLED BY 16:9, 853 00:47:21,012 --> 00:47:23,971 AND THEY TOLD ME ABOUT THE PAINTINGS, 854 00:47:24,058 --> 00:47:26,539 WHICH I HAD NEVER HEARD ABOUT BEFORE, 855 00:47:26,626 --> 00:47:30,848 AND THEY WANTED ME TO GO AND SEE THEM, 856 00:47:30,935 --> 00:47:33,894 AND THEY WANTED TO FILM ME SEEING THEM FOR THE FIRST TIME, 857 00:47:33,981 --> 00:47:35,940 AND I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS DISGUSTING, 858 00:47:36,027 --> 00:47:38,116 AND I HAD NO INTEREST IN DOING THAT, 859 00:47:38,203 --> 00:47:40,945 AND THAT GAVE ME THE FEELING 860 00:47:41,032 --> 00:47:43,817 THAT THIS WASN'T ABOUT THE WOMEN, 861 00:47:43,904 --> 00:47:46,515 THAT THESE PAINTINGS WERE... 862 00:47:46,602 --> 00:47:48,953 IT MADE ME MISTRUST THE ARTIST AS WELL, 863 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:53,000 BECAUSE HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? 864 00:47:53,087 --> 00:47:56,134 -THEY WERE 69 INNOCENT WOMEN WHO WENT MISSING, 865 00:47:56,221 --> 00:47:59,615 MANY OF THEM VICTIMS OF SERIAL KILLER ROBERT PICKTON. 866 00:47:59,702 --> 00:48:01,139 SOME WERE SHUNNED BY SOCIETY, 867 00:48:01,226 --> 00:48:04,011 OTHERS SIMPLY IGNORED BY THEIR FAMILIES, 868 00:48:04,098 --> 00:48:06,840 AND EVEN IN DEATH, THEY WERE FORGOTTEN... 869 00:48:06,927 --> 00:48:09,451 UNTIL NOW. 870 00:48:10,148 --> 00:48:11,976 [SOBS] 871 00:48:12,063 --> 00:48:13,891 -OH, DEAR. 872 00:48:13,978 --> 00:48:15,501 I DON'T WANT TO MAKE YOU CRY. 873 00:48:15,588 --> 00:48:17,024 I'M SORRY. 874 00:48:17,111 --> 00:48:20,593 -THEY ARE TEARS TO REMEMBER THE FORGOTTEN. 875 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:25,119 -THE IDEA OF THEIR MUG SHOTS, IN MANY CASES, 876 00:48:25,206 --> 00:48:28,993 OF HAVING THEM BE REMEMBERED IN AN EXHIBIT 877 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,691 CALLED "THE FORGOTTEN" 878 00:48:31,778 --> 00:48:38,089 AS HUGE, ONE-DIMENSIONAL VICTIMS, 879 00:48:38,176 --> 00:48:40,569 MADE US SICK. 880 00:48:41,744 --> 00:48:44,704 -YOU CAN'T HELP BUT HAVE PERSONAL THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS 881 00:48:44,791 --> 00:48:47,837 TRIGGER STUFF IN YOU, AND WE REACT. 882 00:48:47,925 --> 00:48:49,622 AND OF COURSE, I'M GOING TO BECOME DEFENSIVE 883 00:48:49,709 --> 00:48:51,885 AND I'M GOING TO, YOU KNOW, "HOW DARE YOU DO THAT?" 884 00:48:51,972 --> 00:48:54,714 YOU KNOW, "I'M ANGRY, MAD, UPSET, PISSED OFF." 885 00:48:54,801 --> 00:48:57,847 YOU KNOW, MORE HURT THAN ANYTHING, 886 00:48:57,935 --> 00:49:01,025 BECAUSE I SEE THAT, AND THAT'S A REMINDER 887 00:49:01,112 --> 00:49:02,722 OF WHAT THE WOMEN HAD GONE THROUGH. 888 00:49:02,809 --> 00:49:04,593 THAT'S A REMINDER WHAT HAD HAPPENED TO ME. 889 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,641 THAT'S A REMINDER ABOUT WHAT STILL CONTINUES TO GO ON. 890 00:49:13,994 --> 00:49:17,519 -YEAH, I'M PRETTY ATTACHED. 891 00:49:17,606 --> 00:49:19,739 [LAUGHS] 892 00:49:19,826 --> 00:49:22,089 I DON'T WANT TO BE, BUT... 893 00:49:22,176 --> 00:49:24,048 YOU KNOW WHEN YOU WANT SOMETHING SO BAD, 894 00:49:24,135 --> 00:49:25,484 AND YOU THINK THAT, 895 00:49:25,571 --> 00:49:28,443 "OKAY, WELL, WHAT WILL BE WILL BE," 896 00:49:28,530 --> 00:49:30,054 BUT I DON'T KNOW, 897 00:49:30,141 --> 00:49:31,925 IT WOULD JUST BE SO GREAT 898 00:49:32,012 --> 00:49:34,406 TO BE ABLE TO SHOW WHAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON, 899 00:49:34,493 --> 00:49:37,583 YOU KNOW, AT THE VANCOUVER ART GALLERY. 900 00:49:37,670 --> 00:49:39,759 THIS IS A MOMENT I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER NOW. 901 00:49:39,846 --> 00:49:42,501 LIKE, I'VE ALREADY PAINTED HOW MANY, YOU KNOW, 902 00:49:42,588 --> 00:49:43,850 AND THEY'RE COMING IN... BY THE TIME THEY COME IN, 903 00:49:43,937 --> 00:49:45,852 THERE'S GOING TO BE ALMOST 50. 904 00:49:45,939 --> 00:49:47,288 I'M JUST GOING TO SHOW MY WORK 905 00:49:47,375 --> 00:49:50,074 AND TALK ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO ME 906 00:49:50,161 --> 00:49:52,598 AND, UH... 907 00:49:52,685 --> 00:49:54,992 TELL HER HOW MUCH I THINK IT BELONGS AT THE VAG. 908 00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:58,343 IT'S EXHAUSTING EMOTIONALLY. 909 00:49:58,430 --> 00:49:59,953 LIKE, IT'S BEEN AFFECTING MY STOMACH 910 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,476 AND I JUST, WHEN I START, 911 00:50:01,563 --> 00:50:03,087 SOMETIMES, I'LL PASS OUT IN THE STUDIO, 912 00:50:03,174 --> 00:50:05,654 AND IT'S NOT THE LACK OF WATER. 913 00:50:05,741 --> 00:50:08,005 I THINK IT'S JUST THE EMOTIONAL BURDEN SOMETIMES, 914 00:50:08,092 --> 00:50:09,876 THAT I JUST GO THROUGH THIS. 915 00:50:09,963 --> 00:50:13,097 LIKE, I'LL SEE VISIONS OF, YOU KNOW, THE TRAUMA AND STUFF, 916 00:50:13,184 --> 00:50:15,751 AND I JUST... 917 00:50:15,838 --> 00:50:17,884 JUST START CRYING, LIKE, IT'S SO... 918 00:50:21,844 --> 00:50:23,281 SORRY. 919 00:50:26,066 --> 00:50:28,590 SHE CAME IN HERE AND BASICALLY SAID, YOU KNOW, 920 00:50:28,677 --> 00:50:30,853 "WE'RE BOOKED UP UNTIL 2/13, 921 00:50:30,940 --> 00:50:33,117 "SO EVEN THE TALK OF THIS IS, YOU KNOW, 922 00:50:33,204 --> 00:50:34,770 "PROBABLY TOO LATE FOR YOU, 923 00:50:34,857 --> 00:50:37,164 BUT LET ME SEND THE CURATORS BY." 924 00:50:37,251 --> 00:50:39,123 I DIDN'T GET A SENSE 925 00:50:39,210 --> 00:50:40,689 THAT SHE REALLY UNDERSTOOD THE SCOPE OF IT, 926 00:50:40,776 --> 00:50:42,517 AND SHE BASICALLY SAID, 927 00:50:42,604 --> 00:50:44,215 "WELL, YOU KNOW, I CAN SEE US SHOWING ONE OF THESE," 928 00:50:44,302 --> 00:50:46,652 AND AS SOON AS SHE SAID THAT, I KNEW, 929 00:50:46,739 --> 00:50:47,957 "YOU DON'T GET IT. 930 00:50:48,045 --> 00:50:49,394 "YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THIS 931 00:50:49,481 --> 00:50:50,873 "UNTIL IT'S 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, 932 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,701 "AND YOU GO, 'OH, MY GOD. 933 00:50:52,788 --> 00:50:54,877 "'WE TOTALLY LOST SIGHT OF THAT, 934 00:50:54,964 --> 00:50:56,836 "'THE CULTURAL AND THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE 935 00:50:56,923 --> 00:50:58,533 OF THAT BODY OF WORK.'" 936 00:50:58,620 --> 00:51:01,014 AND I TRULY BELIEVE THAT. 937 00:51:01,101 --> 00:51:02,146 SO, THE GALLERY DIDN'T WORK OUT, 938 00:51:02,233 --> 00:51:04,148 BUT, YOU KNOW, A FEW DAYS LATER, 939 00:51:04,235 --> 00:51:05,888 LITERALLY A FEW DAYS LATER, 940 00:51:05,975 --> 00:51:07,977 I WAS CONNECTED WITH THE DIRECTOR 941 00:51:08,065 --> 00:51:10,154 OF THE MUSEUM OF ANTHROPOLOGY. 942 00:51:10,241 --> 00:51:12,721 THEY CAME IN AND, YOU KNOW, 943 00:51:12,808 --> 00:51:15,028 IT WAS JUST A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE, 944 00:51:15,115 --> 00:51:16,812 YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEONE COMES IN 945 00:51:16,899 --> 00:51:18,423 AND YOU'RE SHOWING THE WORK, 946 00:51:18,510 --> 00:51:20,990 AND AFTER YOU SHOW ABOUT 20, 30 PAINTINGS, 947 00:51:21,078 --> 00:51:22,949 YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY... 948 00:51:23,036 --> 00:51:24,385 HAVE BECOME DISTURBED. 949 00:51:24,472 --> 00:51:26,039 THEY'VE BEEN AFFECTED EMOTIONALLY, 950 00:51:26,126 --> 00:51:28,824 AND THEY SAY, "STOP. WE WANT TO HAVE A SHOW." 951 00:51:28,911 --> 00:51:31,958 -I THINK IT'S ONE THING TO BE AWARE OF SOMETHING 952 00:51:32,045 --> 00:51:33,873 AND SOMETHING QUITE DIFFERENT 953 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,963 TO ACTUALLY FEEL EMOTIONALLY ENGAGED WITH IT, CERTAINLY, 954 00:51:37,050 --> 00:51:39,008 AND THAT'S WHAT PAMELA'S WORKS DID FOR ME. 955 00:51:39,096 --> 00:51:43,230 SUDDENLY FROM STATISTICS AND NEWS STORIES, 956 00:51:43,317 --> 00:51:46,277 THERE WAS A REALITY THAT EMERGED FROM THE CANVASES, 957 00:51:46,364 --> 00:51:47,887 AND THIS IS WHAT HIT ME. 958 00:51:47,974 --> 00:51:50,107 OUR CHALLENGE IS TO GET OUT TO THE PUBLIC 959 00:51:50,194 --> 00:51:53,197 THAT WE ARE MORE THAN JUST A NORTHWEST COAST ART MUSEUM. 960 00:51:53,284 --> 00:51:56,069 WE'RE A FORUM, 961 00:51:56,156 --> 00:51:58,332 AND, YOU KNOW, 962 00:51:58,419 --> 00:52:00,595 WE'RE VANCOUVER'S INSTITUTION, 963 00:52:00,682 --> 00:52:03,946 WHICH ISN'T AFRAID TO EXPLORE SOME AREAS 964 00:52:04,033 --> 00:52:06,253 THAT OTHER INSTITUTIONS 965 00:52:06,340 --> 00:52:09,735 MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE RELUCTANT TO EXPLORE 966 00:52:09,822 --> 00:52:12,390 BECAUSE OF THE CONTROVERSY AROUND THEM. 967 00:52:18,831 --> 00:52:21,225 -I EXTENDED AN INVITATION TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY 968 00:52:21,312 --> 00:52:23,792 BECAUSE I HAVEN'T CONNECTED WITH THEM OVER THE YEARS SO MUCH 969 00:52:23,879 --> 00:52:25,664 BECAUSE I HAD TO FOCUS ON MY WORK 970 00:52:25,751 --> 00:52:27,231 AND THE TRUTH OF THE PROJECT, 971 00:52:27,318 --> 00:52:29,233 THAT JUST TO SAY, "OKAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? 972 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:30,930 "MY DOOR'S OPEN TO YOU. 973 00:52:31,017 --> 00:52:32,627 "I WOULD LOVE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE PROJECT. 974 00:52:32,714 --> 00:52:34,499 I WOULD LOVE TO SHOW YOU THE PAINTINGS." 975 00:52:34,586 --> 00:52:38,242 I'M NOT TRYING TO OPEN UP ANY WOUNDS WITH THE PROJECT, 976 00:52:38,329 --> 00:52:43,247 BUT I THINK THAT A LOT OF THE, 977 00:52:43,334 --> 00:52:45,249 OR SOME OF THE FAMILIES 978 00:52:45,336 --> 00:52:48,252 WILL FEEL THAT CONNECTION AGAIN 979 00:52:48,339 --> 00:52:49,644 WHEN THEY SEE THE PAINTINGS, 980 00:52:49,731 --> 00:52:53,300 AND SO IT'S KIND OF... 981 00:52:53,387 --> 00:52:54,910 JUST... 982 00:52:54,997 --> 00:52:58,044 I JUST WANT TO BE REALLY GENTLE, YOU KNOW? 983 00:53:34,385 --> 00:53:36,735 -TWO WEEKS FROM RIGHT NOW, 984 00:53:36,822 --> 00:53:38,824 THERE WILL BE ABOUT THREE BILLION PEOPLE 985 00:53:38,911 --> 00:53:44,133 TUNED IN RIGHT HERE, RIGHT AROUND US IN VANCOUVER, 986 00:53:44,221 --> 00:53:46,310 TUNED IN TO WHAT OUR CITY REPRESENTS, 987 00:53:46,397 --> 00:53:49,704 TUNED IN TO THE ATHLETES, 988 00:53:49,791 --> 00:53:51,140 WHO ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT, 989 00:53:51,228 --> 00:53:52,490 AND SHOULD BE THE CENTRE OF ATTENTION, 990 00:53:52,577 --> 00:53:54,883 AND THAT'S GREAT. WE LOVE IT. 991 00:53:54,970 --> 00:53:56,450 WE NEED TO ALSO BALANCE THAT 992 00:53:56,537 --> 00:53:59,845 WITH WHAT ART AND CREATIVITY REPRESENTS, 993 00:53:59,932 --> 00:54:02,151 AND I WANT TO RECOGNIZE PAMELA 994 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:06,852 FOR AN UNBELIEVABLE... 995 00:54:06,939 --> 00:54:10,029 GIFT TO ALL OF US, 996 00:54:10,116 --> 00:54:14,076 TO ALL OF THESE WOMEN AND THEIR FAMILIES. 997 00:54:14,163 --> 00:54:16,209 SHE'S DONE AN EXTRAORDINARY THING. 998 00:54:16,296 --> 00:54:17,428 [APPLAUSE] 999 00:54:17,515 --> 00:54:19,995 -SO, IN FEBRUARY OF 2011, 1000 00:54:20,082 --> 00:54:23,260 WE'RE GOING TO BE SHOWING PAMELA'S "THE FORGOTTEN," 1001 00:54:23,347 --> 00:54:25,871 AND I THINK THAT WILL REALLY MARK 1002 00:54:25,958 --> 00:54:28,787 A NEW JUNCTURE IN THE HISTORY OF THE MUSEUM, 1003 00:54:28,874 --> 00:54:31,355 AND A LEVEL OF SOCIAL COMMITMENT 1004 00:54:31,442 --> 00:54:36,838 THAT I HOPE WE'LL BE ABLE TO PRESERVE OVER THE FUTURE. 1005 00:54:36,925 --> 00:54:38,971 [PUMPING CLUB MUSIC] 1006 00:54:43,105 --> 00:54:44,281 HELLO. 1007 00:54:44,368 --> 00:54:45,804 IT'S A PLEASURE TO MEET YOU. 1008 00:54:45,891 --> 00:54:47,545 -PLEASURE TO MEET YOU, TOO. 1009 00:54:52,071 --> 00:54:54,769 -PAMELA'S PREVIEW WAS INTERESTING 1010 00:54:54,856 --> 00:54:58,425 IN THAT IT BROUGHT OUT SORT OF TWO SETS OF PEOPLE. 1011 00:54:58,512 --> 00:54:59,948 IT BROUGHT OUT, YOU KNOW, 1012 00:55:00,035 --> 00:55:01,950 I GUESS WHAT YOU'D CALL THE GLITTERATI, 1013 00:55:02,037 --> 00:55:04,997 AND THERE ARE THE OTHER PEOPLE. 1014 00:55:05,084 --> 00:55:06,738 -THERE WERE PEOPLE THERE 1015 00:55:06,825 --> 00:55:10,263 THAT HAD ZERO INTEREST IN THOSE FORGOTTEN WOMEN, 1016 00:55:10,350 --> 00:55:11,830 ABSOLUTELY ZERO. 1017 00:55:11,917 --> 00:55:14,876 THE REASON WHY WE WERE THERE, 1018 00:55:14,963 --> 00:55:16,269 THE SOLE REASON, 1019 00:55:16,356 --> 00:55:19,446 WAS PRECISELY FOR THESE WOMEN, 1020 00:55:19,533 --> 00:55:21,448 AND AS I RECALL, 1021 00:55:21,535 --> 00:55:25,104 I BELIEVE PAMELA WAS TRYING TO STATE THAT THAT NIGHT, 1022 00:55:25,191 --> 00:55:28,150 AND I'M NOT SURE IF EVERYBODY GOT IT. 1023 00:55:28,237 --> 00:55:31,023 SHE EVEN HAD THIS ONE LADY COME UP 1024 00:55:31,110 --> 00:55:33,417 WHO TALKED ABOUT THE SITUATION 1025 00:55:33,504 --> 00:55:35,027 BECAUSE SHE WAS CONNECTED TO ONE OF THE LADIES 1026 00:55:35,114 --> 00:55:37,246 THAT HAD BEEN MURDERED. 1027 00:55:37,334 --> 00:55:40,946 -I JUST KNOW A LOT OF THEM FROM DRINKING 1028 00:55:41,033 --> 00:55:43,905 AND WORKING THE STREETS WITH THEM. 1029 00:55:43,992 --> 00:55:46,821 SHE SHOULD'VE HAD A LITTLE SCAR. 1030 00:55:46,908 --> 00:55:48,388 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE PICTURE, 1031 00:55:48,475 --> 00:55:52,000 BUT SHE HAD, LIKE, A LITTLE SCAR ON HER LIP. 1032 00:55:52,087 --> 00:55:55,047 BUT THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT. 1033 00:55:55,134 --> 00:55:59,443 WE USED TO HAVE A TARP, TIE IT ON HERE, 1034 00:55:59,530 --> 00:56:03,447 HOOK IT UP, HAVE A COUPLE OF BLANKETS, 1035 00:56:03,534 --> 00:56:05,144 AND SLEEP HERE 1036 00:56:05,231 --> 00:56:08,887 UNTIL THE GUY IN THERE USED TO CHASE US AWAY, 1037 00:56:08,974 --> 00:56:10,454 BUT SOMETIMES HE DIDN'T. 1038 00:56:10,541 --> 00:56:14,545 FOR TWO YOUNG GIRLS, IT'S DANGEROUS. 1039 00:56:16,155 --> 00:56:22,596 MY MOM WOULD BRING HOME GUYS THAT WILL SEXUALLY ABUSE ME. 1040 00:56:22,683 --> 00:56:26,339 ONE TIME I HOLLERED TO HER, AND SHE STOOD IN THE DOOR, 1041 00:56:26,426 --> 00:56:29,124 AND I STILL CAN HEAR HER SAY, 1042 00:56:29,211 --> 00:56:32,563 "BE A BIG GIRL. BE A BIG GIRL." 1043 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,835 -TONIGHT IS THE SHOW FOR THE WOMEN OF THE SHELTER. 1044 00:56:43,922 --> 00:56:46,228 WE HAVE A SHOW HERE ON MAIN STREET 1045 00:56:46,315 --> 00:56:47,665 OUTSIDE OF THE DOWNTOWN EASTSIDE. 1046 00:56:47,752 --> 00:56:49,362 WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS INTEGRATE 1047 00:56:49,449 --> 00:56:51,625 THE WOMEN OUTSIDE OF THE CORE OF THE DOWNTOWN EASTSIDE 1048 00:56:51,712 --> 00:56:53,584 INTO ANOTHER AREA OF THE CITY 1049 00:56:53,671 --> 00:56:57,501 AND GET THEM TO, YOU KNOW, FEEL A SENSE OF ACCOMPLISHMENT 1050 00:56:57,588 --> 00:56:58,850 BY HAVING THEIR OWN SHOW, 1051 00:56:58,937 --> 00:57:00,634 HAVING THEIR WORK UP ON THE WALL, 1052 00:57:00,721 --> 00:57:03,594 AND LETTING THEM SHINE. 1053 00:57:03,681 --> 00:57:06,335 -I WANT TO SHOW PEOPLE WHAT I CAN DO 1054 00:57:06,423 --> 00:57:10,296 WITHOUT DOING DRUGS AND ALCOHOL. 1055 00:57:11,428 --> 00:57:13,386 THIS IS SOLD? 1056 00:57:13,473 --> 00:57:16,041 HOLY... 1057 00:57:16,128 --> 00:57:16,998 MOLY! 1058 00:57:17,085 --> 00:57:18,957 [LAUGHS] 1059 00:57:19,044 --> 00:57:20,567 WOW! 1060 00:57:20,654 --> 00:57:22,308 I AM IN SHOCK! 1061 00:57:22,395 --> 00:57:23,570 -YAY! 1062 00:57:23,657 --> 00:57:25,659 WHOO! 1063 00:57:25,746 --> 00:57:29,054 -DAMN! 1064 00:57:29,141 --> 00:57:30,882 -DON'T WORRY. IT'S NOT A SWEAR. 1065 00:57:30,969 --> 00:57:32,187 "SHIT" IS. 1066 00:57:32,274 --> 00:57:34,146 [BOTH LAUGH] 1067 00:57:38,498 --> 00:57:41,632 [DRUMMING, WOMEN SINGING ABORIGINAL SONGS] 1068 00:57:44,199 --> 00:57:48,116 -WHEN THE FIRST FEBRUARY 14th WOMEN'S MEMORIAL MARCH BEGAN, 1069 00:57:48,203 --> 00:57:53,078 THERE WERE ABOUT 28 WOMEN THAT WALKED IN THAT MARCH, 1070 00:57:53,165 --> 00:57:57,256 AND LAST YEAR THERE WERE 4,000 TO 5,000 PEOPLE. 1071 00:57:57,343 --> 00:58:00,041 FEBRUARY 14th UNIVERSALLY IS A DAY 1072 00:58:00,128 --> 00:58:04,481 OF SHOWING LOVE, CARING, COMPASSION, 1073 00:58:04,568 --> 00:58:08,093 AND WE WANTED TO HAVE FEBRUARY 14th AS THE DAY 1074 00:58:08,180 --> 00:58:11,444 TO EXPRESS OUR LOVE FROM THE COMMUNITY 1075 00:58:11,531 --> 00:58:14,273 FOR THE MURDERED AND MISSING WOMEN. 1076 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,581 WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT PAMELA MASIK'S DISPLAY 1077 00:58:17,668 --> 00:58:21,933 WAS GOING TO BE SHOWN AT THE MUSEUM OF ANTHROPOLOGY, 1078 00:58:22,020 --> 00:58:25,023 IT WAS REALLY SURPRISING 1079 00:58:25,110 --> 00:58:26,590 THAT THE MUSEUM... 1080 00:58:26,677 --> 00:58:29,506 FIRST, IT'S ON FIRST NATIONS LAND... 1081 00:58:29,593 --> 00:58:34,075 WOULD ALLOW SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO BE DISPLAYED, 1082 00:58:34,162 --> 00:58:37,122 THAT HORRIFIC. 1083 00:58:37,209 --> 00:58:39,211 -WE HAD ALWAYS TAKEN GREAT CARE 1084 00:58:39,298 --> 00:58:42,083 TO HONOUR THE MEMORIES OF WOMEN THAT WE KNEW 1085 00:58:42,170 --> 00:58:43,563 AND THAT HAVE GONE MISSING 1086 00:58:43,650 --> 00:58:45,043 FROM THE DOWNTOWN EASTSIDE COMMUNITY 1087 00:58:45,130 --> 00:58:46,305 AND WOMEN THAT HAD BEEN MURDERED, 1088 00:58:46,392 --> 00:58:48,568 VERY CAREFUL ATTENTION TO THAT, 1089 00:58:48,655 --> 00:58:50,135 TO THE PROTOCOL AND CARE, 1090 00:58:50,222 --> 00:58:53,051 AND IT WAS VERY CLEAR THAT THIS ARTIST 1091 00:58:53,138 --> 00:58:55,575 THAT, YOU KNOW, HAD NOT TAKEN THAT CARE. 1092 00:58:55,662 --> 00:58:58,578 -OUR ISSUES WERE VERY POINTED 1093 00:58:58,665 --> 00:59:02,626 AT THE WHOLE RACIAL DISCUSSION WITHIN, 1094 00:59:02,713 --> 00:59:06,804 WITH WHAT THE ARTWORK WAS PURPORTING TO REPRESENT. 1095 00:59:06,891 --> 00:59:09,676 WAS MASIK, AS AN ARTIST, THE RIGHT PERSON 1096 00:59:09,763 --> 00:59:12,026 TO ADDRESS ABORIGINAL WOMEN ISSUES? 1097 00:59:12,113 --> 00:59:13,767 THAT WAS MY QUESTION. 1098 00:59:13,854 --> 00:59:16,422 DID MOA PROVIDE THE CORRECT CONSULTATION PROCESS 1099 00:59:16,509 --> 00:59:20,165 FOR THOSE ABORIGINAL FAMILIES WITHIN THE PAINTINGS? 1100 00:59:20,252 --> 00:59:22,428 -ANTHONY BECAME... I SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, 1101 00:59:22,515 --> 00:59:24,386 THERE'S LIKELY THAT IF THE EXHIBIT WENT AHEAD, 1102 00:59:24,473 --> 00:59:26,301 THAT THERE WOULD BE A PROTEST, 1103 00:59:26,388 --> 00:59:29,174 A PRETTY STRONG PROTEST, 1104 00:59:29,261 --> 00:59:31,655 AND HE WAS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. 1105 00:59:31,742 --> 00:59:34,440 HE THOUGHT THAT WOULD HEIGHTEN THE INTEREST 1106 00:59:34,527 --> 00:59:36,573 IN THE WHOLE EXHIBIT. 1107 00:59:36,660 --> 00:59:38,096 -THE FUNCTION OF A MUSEUM 1108 00:59:38,183 --> 00:59:39,924 IS NOT JUST TO SHOW BEAUTIFUL THINGS. 1109 00:59:40,011 --> 00:59:42,579 THE TASK OF A MUSEUM, I THINK, IS TO ENCOURAGE DEBATE 1110 00:59:42,666 --> 00:59:46,539 AND TO BRING THE ARTS AND CULTURE TOGETHER, 1111 00:59:46,626 --> 00:59:49,586 AND, CERTAINLY, THAT IDEA OF THE MUSEUM AS A FORUM 1112 00:59:49,673 --> 00:59:52,458 IS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO DRIVE MOA. 1113 00:59:52,545 --> 00:59:54,547 PAMELA HAS KIND OF ALLOWED US, 1114 00:59:54,634 --> 00:59:56,375 SHE'S GIVEN US A STARTING POINT 1115 00:59:56,462 --> 00:59:59,204 WHERE WE CAN LOOK AT THESE ISSUES WORLDWIDE, 1116 00:59:59,291 --> 01:00:02,033 AND WE CAN SEE JUST WHAT AN IMPORTANT PROBLEM IT IS 1117 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,079 AND WHY WE NEED TO ACT AND TAKE IT SERIOUSLY, 1118 01:00:05,166 --> 01:00:07,429 NOT JUST IN VANCOUVER, NOT JUST IN CANADA, 1119 01:00:07,516 --> 01:00:08,953 BUT WORLDWIDE. 1120 01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,390 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULDN'T EXIST 1121 01:00:11,477 --> 01:00:13,522 IN THE BEGINNING OF THE 21st CENTURY. 1122 01:00:13,610 --> 01:00:16,569 IT'S A CRIME, OR CRIMES, AGAINST HUMANITY, 1123 01:00:16,656 --> 01:00:20,486 AND IT'S BEING PERPETRATED ON SUCH A LARGE SCALE, 1124 01:00:20,573 --> 01:00:22,140 IN SO MANY DIFFERENT PLACES, 1125 01:00:22,227 --> 01:00:23,750 THAT IT'S GOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY, 1126 01:00:23,837 --> 01:00:25,491 AND IT'S GOT TO BE ENGAGED WITH, 1127 01:00:25,578 --> 01:00:28,276 AND IT'S GOT TO END. 1128 01:00:28,363 --> 01:00:32,367 -IF WE LOOK AT THE ORIGIN OF PROSTITUTION IN LAW, 1129 01:00:32,454 --> 01:00:35,327 THE LAWS THAT WERE WRITTEN AT THE TURN OF THE CENTURY 1130 01:00:35,414 --> 01:00:39,636 WERE THOSE THAT PREVAILED UP UNTIL ABOUT 1972. 1131 01:00:39,723 --> 01:00:43,204 IT BECAME WHAT WAS CALLED "THE SOLICITING LAW." 1132 01:00:43,291 --> 01:00:44,858 BASICALLY, WHAT IT SAID 1133 01:00:44,945 --> 01:00:46,294 WAS THAT YOU CAN'T SOLICIT IN A PUBLIC PLACE 1134 01:00:46,381 --> 01:00:48,732 FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROSTITUTION. 1135 01:00:48,819 --> 01:00:50,559 -YOU KNOW, THE TRADITIONAL PICTURE YOU SEE 1136 01:00:50,647 --> 01:00:52,605 OF THE SEX WORKER, LEANING IN THE WINDOW OF THE CAR, 1137 01:00:52,692 --> 01:00:55,521 NEGOTIATING HER TERMS OF EMPLOYMENT, IF YOU WILL... 1138 01:00:55,608 --> 01:00:58,132 IN THAT TIME, SHE'S DOING AN ENVIRONMENTAL SCAN 1139 01:00:58,219 --> 01:00:59,873 TO SEE IF THE GUY'S GOT A GUN, YOU KNOW... 1140 01:00:59,960 --> 01:01:02,484 IS HE SOBER? IS HE LIVING IN HIS CAR? 1141 01:01:02,571 --> 01:01:04,748 YOU KNOW, SHE'S ASSESSING THE DANGER LEVEL. 1142 01:01:04,835 --> 01:01:06,663 UNDER THIS LAW, THAT'S ILLEGAL, 1143 01:01:06,750 --> 01:01:09,578 SO YOU HAVE TO GET IN THE CAR AND CLOSE THE DOOR 1144 01:01:09,666 --> 01:01:11,755 IN ORDER TO HAVE A PRIVATE CONVERSATION. 1145 01:01:11,842 --> 01:01:14,758 -PROSTITUTION THEN MOVED AROUND THE CITY. 1146 01:01:14,845 --> 01:01:19,197 IT WAS DISPLACED DELIBERATELY AND ACCIDENTALLY 1147 01:01:19,284 --> 01:01:20,589 AS A RESULT OF A SERIES 1148 01:01:20,677 --> 01:01:23,462 OF DIFFERENT LAW ENFORCEMENT INITIATIVES. 1149 01:01:23,549 --> 01:01:25,116 -WHERE WE GO, IT'S COLD OVER THERE. 1150 01:01:25,203 --> 01:01:26,552 I MEAN, IT'S AN INDUSTRIAL SPRAWL. 1151 01:01:26,639 --> 01:01:29,120 IT'S DARK. THERE'S NO TRAFFIC. 1152 01:01:29,207 --> 01:01:30,861 YOU'RE FREEZING. 1153 01:01:30,948 --> 01:01:32,645 -AND IT'S IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES 1154 01:01:32,732 --> 01:01:35,735 WHEN WOMEN ARE ISOLATED ON A CORNER, 1155 01:01:35,822 --> 01:01:39,130 THAT THEY CAN BE PICKED UP, UNSEEN. 1156 01:01:39,217 --> 01:01:40,653 ALL ONE HAS TO DO 1157 01:01:40,740 --> 01:01:42,481 IS LOOK AT THE PATTERNS OF SERIAL KILLING 1158 01:01:42,568 --> 01:01:44,701 OF WOMEN INVOLVED IN SEX WORK. 1159 01:01:44,788 --> 01:01:46,398 IT'S ALMOST ALWAYS 1160 01:01:46,485 --> 01:01:48,487 STREET PROSTITUTES WHO ARE SELECTED. 1161 01:01:48,574 --> 01:01:51,185 I MEAN, YOU CAN GO TO THE GREEN RIVER KILLER, 1162 01:01:51,272 --> 01:01:52,621 THE YORKSHIRE RIPPER. 1163 01:01:52,709 --> 01:01:54,536 ANY NUMBER OF OTHER KILLERS 1164 01:01:54,623 --> 01:01:56,756 OF PEOPLE INVOLVED IN PROSTITUTION 1165 01:01:56,843 --> 01:01:58,976 CHOOSE STREET PROSTITUTES. 1166 01:02:12,772 --> 01:02:16,341 -TO THE FAMILIES OF THE MISSING WOMEN, 1167 01:02:16,428 --> 01:02:19,300 I WOULD SAY TO YOU THAT I WISH FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART 1168 01:02:19,387 --> 01:02:22,260 THAT WE WOULD HAVE CAUGHT HIM SOONER. 1169 01:02:22,347 --> 01:02:26,264 I WISH THAT THE SEVERAL AGENCIES INVOLVED, 1170 01:02:26,351 --> 01:02:29,528 THAT WE COULD HAVE DONE BETTER IN SO MANY WAYS. 1171 01:02:29,615 --> 01:02:32,357 I WISH THAT ALL THE MISTAKES THAT WERE MADE 1172 01:02:32,444 --> 01:02:34,185 WE COULD UNDO, 1173 01:02:34,272 --> 01:02:38,276 AND I WISH THAT MORE LIVES WOULD HAVE BEEN SAVED. 1174 01:02:52,420 --> 01:02:54,379 -SO, THIS IS THE AUDAIN GALLERY. 1175 01:02:54,466 --> 01:02:57,208 IT'S OUR NEW, TEMPORARY EXHIBITION SPACE. 1176 01:02:57,295 --> 01:03:00,646 IT MEASURES ABOUT 6,000 SQUARE FEET, 1177 01:03:00,733 --> 01:03:04,389 AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED EVERY SQUARE FOOT OF THAT 1178 01:03:04,476 --> 01:03:07,653 FOR THE MASIK EXHIBITION. 1179 01:03:08,828 --> 01:03:10,830 UNIVERSITIES ARE OPEN INSTITUTIONS. 1180 01:03:10,917 --> 01:03:12,571 THEY'RE INSTITUTIONS OF DIALOGUE. 1181 01:03:12,658 --> 01:03:16,357 THEY'RE INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE CRUCIAL FOR LIFE 1182 01:03:16,444 --> 01:03:19,230 IN ANY DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY. 1183 01:03:19,317 --> 01:03:22,886 WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION, AN ETHICAL OBLIGATION, 1184 01:03:22,973 --> 01:03:25,453 TO MOUNT SHOWS LIKE THIS. 1185 01:03:26,846 --> 01:03:29,588 -THE OVERALL FEEL THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ACHIEVE 1186 01:03:29,675 --> 01:03:34,245 IS TO HAVE THE VIEWER FEEL LIKE THEY'RE ON EXHIBITION, 1187 01:03:34,332 --> 01:03:38,379 AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE SO LARGE AND DEMANDING, IN A WAY. 1188 01:03:38,466 --> 01:03:40,773 THERE'S THAT QUESTION OF WHO'S LOOKING AT WHO, 1189 01:03:40,860 --> 01:03:42,470 KIND OF THING. 1190 01:03:42,557 --> 01:03:43,994 -WE THOUGHT THAT THE IMPACT OF THE EXHIBITION 1191 01:03:44,081 --> 01:03:45,865 IS GOING TO BE EXTREMELY STRONG. 1192 01:03:45,952 --> 01:03:47,432 IN FACT, WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO 1193 01:03:47,519 --> 01:03:50,261 IS COME UP WITH SOME SCHEMES, 1194 01:03:50,348 --> 01:03:52,785 AND IN ORDER NOT TO MAKE IT SO SPECTACULAR, 1195 01:03:52,872 --> 01:03:55,570 BUT TO TONE IT DOWN SOMEWHAT, AS A PART OF THIS, 1196 01:03:55,657 --> 01:03:59,270 WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT CREATING A SECOND ROOM, A SECOND GALLERY, 1197 01:03:59,357 --> 01:04:03,752 WHICH WILL BE ALMOST LIKE A DECOMPRESSION ROOM. 1198 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,059 -I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. 1199 01:04:16,591 --> 01:04:18,985 -BECAUSE THE MUSEUM SHOW IS IN PLACE, 1200 01:04:19,072 --> 01:04:21,770 BECAUSE THERE'S A SENSE OF HOPE 1201 01:04:21,858 --> 01:04:23,990 THAT THE SHOW AND THE WORK 1202 01:04:24,077 --> 01:04:26,993 IS GOING TO BE TAKEN QUITE SERIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, 1203 01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:28,995 I'M PRETTY HAPPY ABOUT THAT. 1204 01:04:29,082 --> 01:04:32,042 SO, I'M IN A GOOD HEAD SPACE RIGHT NOW, 1205 01:04:32,129 --> 01:04:35,784 BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A RIDE. 1206 01:04:35,872 --> 01:04:36,960 IT'S BEEN A JOURNEY. 1207 01:04:37,047 --> 01:04:39,310 IT'S BEEN... 1208 01:04:39,397 --> 01:04:42,052 CHALLENGING, YOU KNOW? 1209 01:04:52,889 --> 01:04:54,542 ♪ CKNW ♪ 1210 01:04:54,629 --> 01:04:56,805 ♪ NEWS TALK 980 ♪ 1211 01:04:56,893 --> 01:04:59,330 ♪ VANCOUVER ♪ 1212 01:04:59,417 --> 01:05:02,681 -AN EXHIBITION OF PORTRAITS OF MISSING AND MURDERED WOMEN 1213 01:05:02,768 --> 01:05:06,032 HAS BEEN CANCELLED BY THE MUSEUM OF ANTHROPOLOGY. 1214 01:05:06,119 --> 01:05:08,295 THEY APPARENTLY ARE CONCERNED 1215 01:05:08,382 --> 01:05:11,472 THAT THE WORKS WILL BE DISTRESSING TO THE PUBLIC. 1216 01:05:42,025 --> 01:05:43,069 -IN THIS CASE, YOU HAVE A MUSEUM 1217 01:05:43,156 --> 01:05:45,028 THAT WAS REBRANDING ITSELF 1218 01:05:45,115 --> 01:05:47,987 AS AN INSTITUTION WITH A SOCIAL CONSCIENCE 1219 01:05:48,074 --> 01:05:50,816 THAT WAS GOING TO PUT ON CONTROVERSIAL SHOWS, 1220 01:05:50,903 --> 01:05:53,688 THAT HAD REALLY IMPORTANT THINGS TO SAY TO THE PUBLIC 1221 01:05:53,775 --> 01:05:56,865 ABOUT ISSUES THAT WERE VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR SOCIETY, 1222 01:05:56,953 --> 01:06:00,434 AND WHEN THEY CENSOR AN EXHIBIT LIKE THAT, 1223 01:06:00,521 --> 01:06:02,045 IT BECOMES WORSE THAN CENSORSHIP. 1224 01:06:02,132 --> 01:06:04,438 IT'S CENSORSHIP WITH HYPOCRISY. 1225 01:06:04,525 --> 01:06:06,223 -THERE WAS NO CENSORSHIP WHATSOEVER. 1226 01:06:06,310 --> 01:06:10,401 CENSORSHIP, IT WAS NEVER EVEN REMOTELY CONSIDERED. 1227 01:06:10,488 --> 01:06:12,620 -JUST TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT BULLSHIT. 1228 01:06:12,707 --> 01:06:14,753 IT'S CRAZY BECAUSE IT HASN'T EVEN BEEN SEEN, 1229 01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,973 YOU KNOW, LIKE, IN PERSON. 1230 01:06:17,060 --> 01:06:21,064 -MARLENE GEORGE IS COORDINATOR WITH THE MEMORIAL MARCH. 1231 01:06:21,151 --> 01:06:24,632 -PAMELA MASIK'S DISPLAY OF THE 69 PORTRAITS, 1232 01:06:24,719 --> 01:06:26,547 THEY'RE NOT VERY FLATTERING PICTURES. 1233 01:06:26,634 --> 01:06:29,594 SHE HAD FURTHER DEFACED THE PORTRAITS 1234 01:06:29,681 --> 01:06:32,771 TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE GROTESQUE. 1235 01:06:32,858 --> 01:06:35,208 -SHE'S A FAIRLY RICH, MIDDLE-CLASS WHITE WOMAN, 1236 01:06:35,295 --> 01:06:38,646 PAINTING PICTURES OF SOME OF THE POOREST OF OUR SOCIETY. 1237 01:06:38,733 --> 01:06:40,605 IF SHE'D JUST TAKEN THE TIME TO GO TO THE FAMILIES 1238 01:06:40,692 --> 01:06:41,998 AND SAY, "IS THIS OKAY?" 1239 01:06:42,085 --> 01:06:44,522 SHE WOULDN'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM. 1240 01:06:44,609 --> 01:06:48,569 -I THINK THAT PAMELA'S MESSAGE IS NOT TO FORGET THESE WOMEN. 1241 01:06:48,656 --> 01:06:50,876 A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE IT. 1242 01:06:50,963 --> 01:06:52,443 THEY THINK IT'S GOING TO GO AWAY. 1243 01:06:52,530 --> 01:06:54,793 THAT'S GOING TO MAKE IT GO AWAY, 1244 01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,448 BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD SEE. 1245 01:06:57,535 --> 01:07:00,799 -ANTHONY SHELTON WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT THIS WAS 1246 01:07:00,886 --> 01:07:02,192 TO GET OUT THERE. 1247 01:07:02,279 --> 01:07:03,889 THE MAYOR HERE, MAYOR GREGOR ROBERTSON, 1248 01:07:03,976 --> 01:07:05,804 WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT IT WAS 1249 01:07:05,891 --> 01:07:08,459 NOT TO COVER THIS UP, YOU KNOW? 1250 01:07:08,546 --> 01:07:10,548 NOBODY WANTS TO SEE THIS BRUSHED UNDER THE CARPET, 1251 01:07:10,635 --> 01:07:12,419 AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY'VE DONE. 1252 01:07:12,506 --> 01:07:16,119 ALL I GOT FROM ANTHONY WAS ACADEMIC GOBBLEDYGOOK. 1253 01:07:16,206 --> 01:07:19,600 -WE'D BEEN TRYING TO CREATE THIS CONSENSUS 1254 01:07:19,687 --> 01:07:24,649 AND PUT THIS CONGLOMERATE OF DIFFERENT INTERESTS TOGETHER, 1255 01:07:24,736 --> 01:07:26,825 AND WHEREAS SOMETIMES IT HAD COME, 1256 01:07:26,912 --> 01:07:29,523 IT STARTED TO LOOK AS IF IT WAS TAKING PLACE, 1257 01:07:29,610 --> 01:07:31,221 IT THEN DISSOLVED AGAIN, 1258 01:07:31,308 --> 01:07:33,614 AND REALLY, WE WERE UNABLE TO CREATE 1259 01:07:33,701 --> 01:07:38,054 THIS BROAD, UM... 1260 01:07:40,230 --> 01:07:44,495 THIS BROAD ARRANGEMENT OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS 1261 01:07:44,582 --> 01:07:48,455 WITH CONSENSUS THAT WE WOULD USE IT TO DO 1262 01:07:48,542 --> 01:07:51,937 ALL THESE DIFFERENT KINDS OF EVENTS AROUND THE EXHIBITION. 1263 01:07:54,070 --> 01:07:56,507 -IT SADDENS ME THAT IT WAS CANCELLED, 1264 01:07:56,594 --> 01:07:59,597 BUT FROM THE BEGINNING, WITH THE INTENTION I HAD, 1265 01:07:59,684 --> 01:08:02,643 I TRULY REALLY WANTED TO SPEAK FOR PEOPLE WHO COULDN'T SPEAK. 1266 01:08:02,730 --> 01:08:04,297 LIKE I SAID BEFORE, 1267 01:08:04,384 --> 01:08:06,038 THIS ISN'T MEANT TO BE A MEMORIAL COLLECTION. 1268 01:08:06,125 --> 01:08:09,259 IT'S MEANT TO CONFRONT THE ISSUES 1269 01:08:09,346 --> 01:08:11,043 THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, 1270 01:08:11,130 --> 01:08:14,090 AND I SAW MY ART AS A WAY TO REACH PEOPLE 1271 01:08:14,177 --> 01:08:16,179 THAT MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY HAVE LOOKED AT THE ISSUES 1272 01:08:16,266 --> 01:08:20,052 THAT WERE IGNORED FOR SO MANY YEARS. 1273 01:08:20,139 --> 01:08:21,749 [TAKES SHAKY BREATH] 1274 01:08:21,836 --> 01:08:23,186 MY VISION FOR THAT PROJECT 1275 01:08:23,273 --> 01:08:26,145 AND WHERE... 1276 01:08:26,232 --> 01:08:28,843 WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO AND WHAT I FEEL... 1277 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,544 IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT HAVING A MUSEUM SHOW 1278 01:08:33,631 --> 01:08:35,807 ON MY RESUME OR, YOU KNOW... 1279 01:08:35,894 --> 01:08:37,417 IT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT THAT AT ALL. 1280 01:08:37,504 --> 01:08:40,725 THAT'S NOT WHY I DID IT, AND REMEMBERING THAT. 1281 01:08:40,812 --> 01:08:44,294 -IT JUST BECAME MORE AND MORE SHOCKING FOR US, 1282 01:08:44,381 --> 01:08:46,165 AND WE WERE UNABLE 1283 01:08:46,252 --> 01:08:51,301 TO LET THAT KIND OF EXPLOITATION HAPPEN. 1284 01:08:52,867 --> 01:08:56,871 -WE WERE AWARE OF THOSE ATTACKS ON PAMELA 1285 01:08:56,958 --> 01:09:01,615 AND THE REASON FOR DOING THIS PARTICULAR BODY OF WORKS. 1286 01:09:01,702 --> 01:09:04,183 THEY WERE NOT PRESENTED IN A FORMAL WAY 1287 01:09:04,270 --> 01:09:06,664 BY ANY OF THOSE GROUPS TO THE MUSEUM. 1288 01:09:06,751 --> 01:09:09,971 -I WROTE A FORMAL LETTER TO ANTHONY SHELTON 1289 01:09:10,058 --> 01:09:13,627 TELLING THEM ABOUT THE CONCERNS THAT THE MEMORIAL MARCH HAD 1290 01:09:13,714 --> 01:09:15,760 ABOUT THIS EXHIBIT. 1291 01:09:15,847 --> 01:09:17,588 -I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE. 1292 01:09:17,675 --> 01:09:19,590 "IT WAS VERY OFFENSIVE TO MANY OF THESE FAMILIES 1293 01:09:19,677 --> 01:09:21,244 "THAT THE IMAGE OF THEIR BELOVED DAUGHTERS, MOTHERS, 1294 01:09:21,331 --> 01:09:23,594 "SISTERS, AND AUNTIES HAS BEEN STOLEN AND USED 1295 01:09:23,681 --> 01:09:25,117 "BY THIS AMBITIOUS ARTIST 1296 01:09:25,204 --> 01:09:27,075 "TO FURTHER HER OWN CAREER. 1297 01:09:27,163 --> 01:09:28,990 "SHE CASTS HERSELF AS A HEROINE TO THIS COMMUNITY 1298 01:09:29,077 --> 01:09:30,470 "AND TO THESE WOMEN. 1299 01:09:30,557 --> 01:09:32,168 "IN FACT, SHE'S PAINTED THESE IMAGES 1300 01:09:32,255 --> 01:09:33,647 "LARGELY WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF THEIR FAMILIES 1301 01:09:33,734 --> 01:09:35,954 "AND SHOWN THEM LITTLE TANGIBLE RESPECT. 1302 01:09:36,041 --> 01:09:38,086 "MS. MASIK'S WORK VIOLATES THESE WOMEN. 1303 01:09:38,174 --> 01:09:40,132 "HER IMAGES SHOW THE WOMEN WITH FACES SLASHED, 1304 01:09:40,219 --> 01:09:41,699 "STITCHED TOGETHER, 1305 01:09:41,786 --> 01:09:43,135 "AND OVERLAID WITH LANGUAGE AND IMAGERY 1306 01:09:43,222 --> 01:09:44,658 "THAT IS VERY DISTURBING TO THE PEOPLE 1307 01:09:44,745 --> 01:09:46,573 WHOSE VOICES SHE CLAIMS TO REPRESENT." 1308 01:09:46,660 --> 01:09:49,794 THE MEDIA HAS BEEN USING THOSE IMAGES FOR YEARS. 1309 01:09:49,881 --> 01:09:52,188 I'VE USED THEM OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN 1310 01:09:52,275 --> 01:09:54,364 WITH CONTENT ASSOCIATED 1311 01:09:54,451 --> 01:09:57,976 MUCH MORE DISTURBING THAN PAMELA'S SHOW. 1312 01:10:05,766 --> 01:10:07,203 -WE HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE 1313 01:10:07,290 --> 01:10:09,292 THAT THERE IS A STRONG POSSIBILITY 1314 01:10:09,379 --> 01:10:13,165 THAT SOME OF THE PRODUCT FROM THE PICKTON FARMS 1315 01:10:13,252 --> 01:10:16,821 MAY STILL BE SITTING IN SOME PEOPLE'S FREEZERS 1316 01:10:16,908 --> 01:10:18,518 IN THE LOWER MAINLAND, 1317 01:10:18,605 --> 01:10:20,738 BUT THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT ANY OF THIS MATERIAL 1318 01:10:20,825 --> 01:10:24,176 WENT INTO THE COMMERCIAL FOOD TRAY. 1319 01:10:24,263 --> 01:10:25,917 -WE ARE ASKING THAT ANYONE 1320 01:10:26,004 --> 01:10:27,658 WHO IS STILL PERHAPS IN POSSESSION 1321 01:10:27,745 --> 01:10:30,182 OF ANY MEAT THEY OBTAINED FROM THAT PROPERTY 1322 01:10:30,269 --> 01:10:33,316 TO PLEASE CONTACT THE MISSING WOMEN TASK FORCE. 1323 01:10:33,403 --> 01:10:34,926 [PLAYING ACCORDION] 1324 01:10:35,013 --> 01:10:37,320 -THE ROPE WAS TIGHT. THE KNIFE WAS SHARP. 1325 01:10:37,407 --> 01:10:40,758 SHE BARELY FELT A THING. 1326 01:10:40,845 --> 01:10:43,064 BOBBY KICKED UP THE GENERATOR 1327 01:10:43,151 --> 01:10:45,284 AND BEGAN PROCESSING. 1328 01:10:45,371 --> 01:10:46,851 [HORRIFIED LAUGHTER] 1329 01:10:46,938 --> 01:10:49,201 THIS LITTLE PIGGY WENT TO MARKET. 1330 01:10:49,288 --> 01:10:51,856 THIS LITTLE PIGGY STAYED HOME. 1331 01:10:51,943 --> 01:10:54,250 THIS LITTLE PIGGY ATE MARGARET, 1332 01:10:54,337 --> 01:10:56,643 AND THIS ONE SUCKED ON THE BONE. 1333 01:10:56,730 --> 01:10:58,471 [SCANDALIZED LAUGHTER] 1334 01:10:59,951 --> 01:11:00,995 -AT FIRST, YOU ASK YOURSELF WHAT KIND OF MONSTER 1335 01:11:01,082 --> 01:11:02,910 IS DOING THIS PERFORMANCE 1336 01:11:02,997 --> 01:11:04,869 AND MAKING LITTLE OF THESE WOMEN'S EXPERIENCE? 1337 01:11:04,956 --> 01:11:06,827 THEN YOU ASK YOURSELF WHAT KIND OF MONSTERS ARE IN THE CROWD 1338 01:11:06,914 --> 01:11:08,655 ACTUALLY RESPONDING TO IT? 1339 01:11:08,742 --> 01:11:10,309 BUT AT THE SAME TIME, 1340 01:11:10,396 --> 01:11:12,703 THERE'S PLENTY OF SUBJECTS IN MODERN SOCIETY 1341 01:11:12,790 --> 01:11:16,184 THAT ARE TOO UNPLEASANT TO BE PART OF EVERYDAY DISCOURSE 1342 01:11:16,272 --> 01:11:18,404 AND OFTEN THROUGH COMEDY, 1343 01:11:18,491 --> 01:11:20,145 EVEN BLACK COMEDY, 1344 01:11:20,232 --> 01:11:22,800 IT'S THE ONLY WAY THESE MATTERS ARE ALLOWED TO SURFACE. 1345 01:11:22,887 --> 01:11:24,802 NOBODY REALLY CARED ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON 1346 01:11:24,889 --> 01:11:26,456 FOR YEARS AND YEARS 1347 01:11:26,543 --> 01:11:28,240 UNTIL THEY FOUND A SCAPEGOAT, BUT IT'S OKAY 1348 01:11:28,327 --> 01:11:30,416 BECAUSE NOW WE FOUND THE ONE GUY WHO'S THE PROBLEM, 1349 01:11:30,503 --> 01:11:32,723 AND HE'S IN JAIL, 1350 01:11:32,810 --> 01:11:35,813 SO NO SEX WORKERS ARE GOING TO BE VULNERABLE 1351 01:11:35,900 --> 01:11:37,902 EVER AGAIN, RIGHT? 1352 01:11:37,989 --> 01:11:39,338 -THE ARTIST'S MOTIVATIONS DON'T MATTER. 1353 01:11:39,425 --> 01:11:41,253 WHAT MATTERS IS THE ART THAT'S PRODUCED, 1354 01:11:41,340 --> 01:11:43,342 WHAT IT SAYS, HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS. 1355 01:11:43,429 --> 01:11:46,302 -I DO UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S UPSETTING FOR THE FAMILIES 1356 01:11:46,389 --> 01:11:49,043 AND FOR OTHER RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY, 1357 01:11:49,130 --> 01:11:50,915 BUT THAT'S WHAT ART IS SUPPOSED TO DO. 1358 01:11:51,002 --> 01:11:53,787 IT'S SUPPOSED TO MAKE YOU THINK. IT'S SUPPOSED TO MAKE YOU FEEL. 1359 01:11:53,874 --> 01:11:55,354 -PART OF WHAT'S ALWAYS HAPPENED 1360 01:11:55,441 --> 01:11:57,225 WITH THE DOWNTOWN EASTSIDE NEIGHBOURHOOD 1361 01:11:57,313 --> 01:12:00,272 AND WITH INDIGENOUS WOMEN AND WITH WOMEN, SEX WORKERS, 1362 01:12:00,359 --> 01:12:01,969 WITH SEX WORKERS, 1363 01:12:02,056 --> 01:12:03,884 HAS BEEN THAT OTHER PEOPLE WHO AREN'T INVOLVED 1364 01:12:03,971 --> 01:12:05,712 TELL THE STORY. 1365 01:12:05,799 --> 01:12:08,541 YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE OF SPEAKING FOR. 1366 01:12:08,628 --> 01:12:12,763 -WHEN THE MOST MARGINALIZED PEOPLE IN OUR SOCIETY 1367 01:12:12,850 --> 01:12:17,420 ARE SAYING, "HEY, DON'T TALK ABOUT US THAT WAY," 1368 01:12:17,507 --> 01:12:20,205 IS THAT CENSORSHIP? 1369 01:12:20,292 --> 01:12:22,163 AND WHEN THE MUSEUM OF ANTHROPOLOGY 1370 01:12:22,250 --> 01:12:24,775 LISTENS TO THOSE VOICES, 1371 01:12:24,862 --> 01:12:26,429 IS THAT CENSORSHIP, 1372 01:12:26,516 --> 01:12:29,301 OR IS THAT FINALLY SOMEONE HEARING THE VOICES 1373 01:12:29,388 --> 01:12:32,348 THAT ARE NOT HEARD SO MUCH? 1374 01:12:32,435 --> 01:12:36,439 -OUR QUESTIONS AND OUR ANALYSIS ALWAYS STAND ON, 1375 01:12:36,526 --> 01:12:38,266 "WELL, WHAT ABOUT THE VIEWER?" 1376 01:12:38,354 --> 01:12:41,052 THE HISTORY OF CANADA IS NOT WELL KNOWN 1377 01:12:41,139 --> 01:12:42,836 REGARDING ABORIGINAL PEOPLE, 1378 01:12:42,923 --> 01:12:45,143 SO IF I LOOKED AT AND EXAMINED 1379 01:12:45,230 --> 01:12:46,797 WHO WOULD BE WALKING THROUGH THOSE DOORS, 1380 01:12:46,884 --> 01:12:50,148 WOULD THEY HAVE THE CORRECT INFORMATION 1381 01:12:50,235 --> 01:12:53,151 TO VIEW THESE PAINTINGS, PARTICULARLY ABORIGINAL WOMEN, 1382 01:12:53,238 --> 01:12:55,849 AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT BROUGHT THEM TO THE STREET? 1383 01:12:55,936 --> 01:12:59,331 -CERTAINLY, I THINK 1384 01:12:59,418 --> 01:13:01,594 THAT COMMUNITIES 1385 01:13:01,681 --> 01:13:03,901 AND A NUMBER OF PEOPLE 1386 01:13:03,988 --> 01:13:07,208 HELPED US UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE ISSUES 1387 01:13:07,295 --> 01:13:10,777 THAT THE EXHIBITION 1388 01:13:10,864 --> 01:13:15,565 MIGHT PROVOKE IN THE COMMUNITY. 1389 01:13:17,436 --> 01:13:20,483 -I WAS REALLY STUNNED, ACTUALLY. 1390 01:13:20,570 --> 01:13:23,181 WHAT ANTHONY SHELTON TOLD US, 1391 01:13:23,268 --> 01:13:26,184 HE LEARNED A LOT THAT HE DIDN'T KNOW BEFORE. 1392 01:13:26,271 --> 01:13:27,968 HE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING 1393 01:13:28,055 --> 01:13:30,231 THAT WOULD REALLY RAISE AWARENESS, 1394 01:13:30,318 --> 01:13:34,235 AND HE REALIZED THAT WHAT THEY WERE DOING 1395 01:13:34,322 --> 01:13:36,890 WASN'T GOING TO ACHIEVE THAT. 1396 01:13:36,977 --> 01:13:40,198 -I THOUGHT IT WAS A FORM OF CHICKEN SHIT IS, 1397 01:13:40,285 --> 01:13:43,288 QUITE HONESTLY, WHAT I THINK IT WAS, 1398 01:13:43,375 --> 01:13:47,118 AS MUCH AS IT WAS AN ISSUE OF CENSORSHIP. 1399 01:13:47,205 --> 01:13:50,382 I TOLD THE FOLKS AT THE MUSEUM OF ANTHROPOLOGY, 1400 01:13:50,469 --> 01:13:53,864 "I FIND IT A LITTLE IRONIC THAT WE'RE HERE, ACTUALLY," 1401 01:13:53,951 --> 01:13:55,474 AND I POINTED AROUND 1402 01:13:55,561 --> 01:13:58,172 TO ALL THESE ANCIENT CARVINGS AND WORKS OF ART 1403 01:13:58,259 --> 01:14:02,438 THAT WERE ONCE PANNED AND CALLED "EVIL WORKS," 1404 01:14:02,525 --> 01:14:05,397 WERE "THE WORK OF SAVAGES," 1405 01:14:05,484 --> 01:14:07,660 AND NOW A BUNCH OF PEOPLE SHOW UP HERE SAYING, 1406 01:14:07,747 --> 01:14:11,229 "HER WORK ISN'T WORTH A PINCH OF COON SHIT." 1407 01:14:11,316 --> 01:14:14,928 THAT REALLY OFFENDED ME AND REALLY GOT ME ANGRY. 1408 01:14:16,452 --> 01:14:19,324 -WHEN I FIRST SAW ANYTHING ON THE PAINTINGS, 1409 01:14:19,411 --> 01:14:20,978 THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THEM THERE 1410 01:14:21,065 --> 01:14:22,893 THAT JUST REALLY UPSET ME, 1411 01:14:22,980 --> 01:14:26,157 AND WHEN SHE EXPLAINED IT TO ME, I COULD KIND OF UNDERSTAND, 1412 01:14:26,244 --> 01:14:28,072 BUT I THOUGHT, 1413 01:14:28,159 --> 01:14:30,291 "OOH, I DON'T THINK I'D EVEN WANT THE FAMILY MEMBERS 1414 01:14:30,378 --> 01:14:32,293 TO SEE THESE." 1415 01:14:32,380 --> 01:14:33,904 -TO LOSE A LOVED ONE 1416 01:14:33,991 --> 01:14:36,559 AND THEN TO HAVE YOUR LOVED ONE PORTRAYED 1417 01:14:36,646 --> 01:14:39,170 IN SUCH A HORRIBLE, UGLY WAY 1418 01:14:39,257 --> 01:14:43,087 IS BEYOND IMAGINABLE. 1419 01:14:43,174 --> 01:14:46,264 I DON'T KNOW HOW MY DAUGHTER WAS MURDERED. 1420 01:14:46,351 --> 01:14:48,353 I ENVISION ALL KINDS OF HORRIBLE THINGS 1421 01:14:48,440 --> 01:14:49,920 HAPPENING TO HER, 1422 01:14:50,007 --> 01:14:54,272 SO TO SEE THAT UGLINESS WOULD JUST... 1423 01:14:54,359 --> 01:14:56,404 INTENSIFY, YOU KNOW, 1424 01:14:56,492 --> 01:15:01,061 THE THOUGHT OF HOW YOUR DAUGHTER DIED. 1425 01:15:01,148 --> 01:15:04,064 -WELL, I'M SURE WITH SOME OF THEM BEING SO ABSTRACT, 1426 01:15:04,151 --> 01:15:05,892 THAT, YOU KNOW, 1427 01:15:05,979 --> 01:15:08,155 MAYBE IT IS GOING TO HURT SOME OF THE FAMILY MEMBERS 1428 01:15:08,242 --> 01:15:11,115 BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING AT A PORTRAIT OF THEIR LOVED ONE, 1429 01:15:11,202 --> 01:15:12,943 BUT I'M REALLY HOPING AND PRAYING 1430 01:15:13,030 --> 01:15:15,119 THAT THEY LOOK AT THIS 1431 01:15:15,206 --> 01:15:18,470 AS PAMELA DRAWING OUT THE HURT AND THE PAIN 1432 01:15:18,557 --> 01:15:20,603 SO THAT WE CAN SHOW THE REST OF THE WORLD 1433 01:15:20,690 --> 01:15:26,391 THAT THESE WOMEN WENT THROUGH HORRIFIC THINGS IN THEIR LIFE. 1434 01:15:33,311 --> 01:15:37,968 -I STILL FEEL LIKE 1435 01:15:38,055 --> 01:15:42,276 MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE REALLY LOOKED AT HER WORK. 1436 01:15:42,363 --> 01:15:44,496 MAYBE WE COULD HAVE REALLY LOOKED 1437 01:15:44,583 --> 01:15:48,195 AND SEEN WHAT SHE HAD TO SAY ABOUT IT. 1438 01:15:48,282 --> 01:15:51,416 MAYBE WE COULD HAVE USED IT TO BRING ATTENTION 1439 01:15:51,503 --> 01:15:53,461 TO MORE ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON. 1440 01:15:53,549 --> 01:15:56,290 YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALL THESE MAYBES, 1441 01:15:56,377 --> 01:15:58,510 SO WHY DO WE REACT SO QUICKLY? 1442 01:15:58,597 --> 01:16:01,339 WHY DO WE... WHY DO WE... 1443 01:16:01,426 --> 01:16:04,342 WHEN, YOU KNOW, 1444 01:16:04,429 --> 01:16:05,517 WHEN IT'S STILL HAPPENING, 1445 01:16:05,604 --> 01:16:07,084 BUT WITH OTHER GROUPS? 1446 01:16:07,171 --> 01:16:10,000 WHY DO WE CHOOSE AND PICK ONLY ONE PERSON? 1447 01:16:22,316 --> 01:16:25,363 -I GOT PNEUMONIA. 1448 01:16:26,799 --> 01:16:28,453 I DON'T EVEN WANT TO THINK ABOUT THE PROJECT GOING ON 1449 01:16:28,540 --> 01:16:30,150 ANOTHER YEAR. 1450 01:16:30,237 --> 01:16:32,631 I WANT IT TO DO SOME GOOD, 1451 01:16:32,718 --> 01:16:37,941 AND I DON'T KNOW HOW I'M GOING TO PULL OFF 1452 01:16:38,028 --> 01:16:39,638 WHAT I NEED TO. 1453 01:16:39,725 --> 01:16:43,337 I'M GOING TO TRY MY BEST TO DO IT. 1454 01:16:43,424 --> 01:16:47,646 I CAN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT THE PROJECT GOING ON WITHOUT, 1455 01:16:47,733 --> 01:16:49,692 I DON'T KNOW... 1456 01:16:53,434 --> 01:16:56,176 [SNIFFLES, WEEPING] 1457 01:17:06,317 --> 01:17:07,318 [WHIMPERS INDISTINCTLY] 1458 01:17:23,073 --> 01:17:27,077 -PEOPLE CONFLATE THE MURDER AND THE LIFE THAT SHE LIVED 1459 01:17:27,164 --> 01:17:29,427 AS IF THEY ARE EXACTLY THE SAME THING. 1460 01:17:29,514 --> 01:17:30,950 THEY ARE NOT. 1461 01:17:31,037 --> 01:17:33,474 AS IF SHE STARTED TO DIE WHEN SHE RAN AWAY, 1462 01:17:33,561 --> 01:17:35,128 OR WHEN SHE STARTED USING DRUGS, 1463 01:17:35,215 --> 01:17:37,261 OR WHEN SHE STARTED SELLING SEX, OR... 1464 01:17:37,348 --> 01:17:39,045 NO. 1465 01:17:39,132 --> 01:17:41,178 SHE DIED WHEN SHE WAS MURDERED. THAT'S WHEN SHE DIED. 1466 01:17:41,265 --> 01:17:42,440 SHE WAS ALIVE. 1467 01:17:42,527 --> 01:17:43,833 SHE WAS LIVING, 1468 01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:48,185 AND HER LIFE WAS FILLED WITH MEANING, 1469 01:17:48,272 --> 01:17:51,231 AND IT HAD LOVE IN IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH 1470 01:17:51,318 --> 01:17:53,581 UNTIL IT WAS TAKEN FROM HER. 1471 01:17:53,669 --> 01:17:57,194 I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND. 1472 01:17:58,543 --> 01:18:02,112 -HE, PICKTON, NOT ONLY RUINED OUR LIVES, 1473 01:18:02,199 --> 01:18:05,855 HE'S RUINED 78 CHILDREN'S LIVES. 1474 01:18:07,378 --> 01:18:09,597 THOSE CHILDREN, WHEN THEY GROW UP, 1475 01:18:09,685 --> 01:18:13,297 THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE GRANDMOTHERS, 1476 01:18:13,384 --> 01:18:16,300 SO HE'S RUINED GENERATIONS TO COME, 1477 01:18:16,387 --> 01:18:19,651 NOT JUST THE PEOPLE HERE NOW. 1478 01:18:19,738 --> 01:18:22,698 HE'S RUINED A LOT OF LIVES. 1479 01:18:24,308 --> 01:18:27,790 -THIS IS WHAT THE CORONER HAD GAVE US TODAY. 1480 01:18:27,877 --> 01:18:30,706 THIS IS ALL WE HAVE OF MARNIE. 1481 01:18:30,793 --> 01:18:34,579 AS PARENTS AND CARING PEOPLE AND RELATIVES 1482 01:18:34,666 --> 01:18:38,409 WHO KNEW AND LOVED MARNIE, 1483 01:18:38,496 --> 01:18:40,454 AT LEAST WE HAVE SOMETHING. 1484 01:18:40,541 --> 01:18:44,589 A LOT OF THE FAMILIES HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. 1485 01:18:44,676 --> 01:18:46,417 -I'M A LITTLE BIT JEALOUS. 1486 01:18:46,504 --> 01:18:50,769 IT'S STUPID TO SAY THAT, BUT FOR THE FACT IS, 1487 01:18:50,856 --> 01:18:52,553 THEY HAVE REMAINS. 1488 01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,687 THEY HAVE SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO BRING HOME, 1489 01:18:55,774 --> 01:18:59,822 LIKE, JUST A FRAGMENT OF A BONE, THE TIP OF A FINGER. 1490 01:18:59,909 --> 01:19:03,173 ANYTHING WOULD HAVE BEEN SATISFACT... 1491 01:19:03,260 --> 01:19:04,870 THAT I COULD HAVE HAD AT LEAST THAT, 1492 01:19:04,957 --> 01:19:07,699 BUT I HAVE NOTHING, AND THAT'S HARD, WHEN YOU... 1493 01:19:09,483 --> 01:19:11,616 MY MOTHER ALWAYS TOLD ME AND ALWAYS FELT 1494 01:19:11,703 --> 01:19:14,706 THAT IT'S HARD TO ACCEPT SOMEONE'S DEATH 1495 01:19:14,793 --> 01:19:17,578 WHEN THERE IS NO FUNERAL. 1496 01:19:19,798 --> 01:19:21,800 -I HAD TO SLOWLY PUZZLE PIECES BACK TOGETHER 1497 01:19:21,887 --> 01:19:24,672 BECAUSE I WAS STILL LIVING IN THE FOSTER HOME, 1498 01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:26,762 SO A LOT OF THINGS WERE HIDDEN FROM ME. 1499 01:19:26,849 --> 01:19:30,853 EVERY ARTICLE, ANYTHING THAT HAD MY MOM'S NAME IN IT, 1500 01:19:30,940 --> 01:19:34,813 ANYTHING TO DO WITH PICKTON I WOULD KEEP, 1501 01:19:34,900 --> 01:19:38,948 AND I ENDED UP HAVING A REALLY, REALLY LARGE SCRAPBOOK. 1502 01:19:40,297 --> 01:19:41,733 I FINALLY REALIZED I WAS GETTING REALLY SICK 1503 01:19:41,820 --> 01:19:43,735 AND, LIKE, JUST OBSESSED WITH IT. 1504 01:19:43,822 --> 01:19:45,432 I'M NOT REALLY GETTING TOO MANY ANSWERS. 1505 01:19:45,519 --> 01:19:47,870 I'M JUST OBSESSING OVER THE WRONG THINGS. 1506 01:19:47,957 --> 01:19:49,567 THE LAST TIME I SAW MY MOM, I WAS FIVE, 1507 01:19:49,654 --> 01:19:51,787 AND THEN AT EIGHT, I FIND OUT SHE'S DEAD, 1508 01:19:51,874 --> 01:19:53,484 AND I'M NEVER GOING TO SEE HER AGAIN, 1509 01:19:53,571 --> 01:19:55,703 SO FOR THAT, BURNING THE BOOK, 1510 01:19:55,791 --> 01:19:57,618 IT WAS REALLY, REALLY GOOD FOR ME, 1511 01:19:57,705 --> 01:20:00,796 LIKE, JUST HEALING EVERYTHING. 1512 01:20:02,319 --> 01:20:04,277 SAIL ON CHILDREN, SAIL ON BY 1513 01:20:04,364 --> 01:20:07,715 'CAUSE TIME IS AN OCEAN AND IT ENDS UP ASHORE. 1514 01:20:07,803 --> 01:20:10,718 SHE'S BEEN GONE FROM OUR TOUCH, BUT NEVER OUR MEMORIES. 1515 01:20:10,806 --> 01:20:14,679 GONE FROM OUR SIGHT, BUT NEVER OUR HEARTS. 1516 01:20:15,723 --> 01:20:17,987 SO, I WROTE THAT FOR MY MOMMY. 1517 01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:20,772 -WELL, I GREW UP IN THE COUNTRY. 1518 01:20:20,859 --> 01:20:22,905 WE HAD 11 ACRES OF LAND, 1519 01:20:22,992 --> 01:20:27,387 AND I WOULD SPEND A LOT OF MY LIFE IN THE FOREST 1520 01:20:27,474 --> 01:20:29,607 JUST IN TREES, AROUND NATURE, 1521 01:20:29,694 --> 01:20:32,479 LYING IN THE GRASS. 1522 01:20:32,566 --> 01:20:34,699 AND THE FOREST TAUGHT ME ONE THING. 1523 01:20:34,786 --> 01:20:38,659 THERE ARE NO ENDS. THERE'S JUST BEGINNINGS. 1524 01:20:38,746 --> 01:20:41,488 MY MOTHER LIVES ON EVERY DAY IN ME. 1525 01:20:41,575 --> 01:20:43,490 WE LOOK ALMOST IDENTICAL, 1526 01:20:43,577 --> 01:20:46,929 SO SHE LIVES ON IN EVERYTHING I DO. 1527 01:20:47,016 --> 01:20:50,628 I'M LIVING THE LIFE SHE SHOULD HAVE HAD 1528 01:20:50,715 --> 01:20:52,935 BUT SHE COULDN'T HAVE, 1529 01:20:53,022 --> 01:20:55,763 AND I EMBRACE THAT EVERY DAY. 1530 01:21:06,905 --> 01:21:08,733 -I KNOW IT'S BEEN SO MANY YEARS, 1531 01:21:08,820 --> 01:21:10,213 AND THEY'VE DUG UP THE DIRT AND THEY'VE DONE EVERYTHING, 1532 01:21:10,300 --> 01:21:11,779 BUT FOR SOME STRANGE REASON... 1533 01:21:11,867 --> 01:21:13,912 I CAN'T EXPLAIN IT, SOME SPIRITUAL REASON... 1534 01:21:13,999 --> 01:21:17,524 I NEED TO WALK ON THAT FARM. 1535 01:21:17,611 --> 01:21:19,787 -I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO GO OUT TO THE FARM. 1536 01:21:19,875 --> 01:21:22,486 IT WAS JUST AN INNER THING WITH ME, 1537 01:21:22,573 --> 01:21:25,228 THAT ONCE I SAW THAT OPPORTUNITY WITH THAT HOLE IN THAT GATE, 1538 01:21:25,315 --> 01:21:27,491 I WAS GONE. 1539 01:21:40,721 --> 01:21:42,245 -I'M STANDING AT THE FENCE, 1540 01:21:42,332 --> 01:21:46,727 AND I KNEW THAT I COULDN'T GO ON THE PROPERTY. 1541 01:21:46,814 --> 01:21:49,992 I THINK THAT WOULD CAUSE ME TO BREAK DOWN. 1542 01:21:50,079 --> 01:21:52,342 ALTHOUGH WE'VE BEEN THROUGH SO MUCH, 1543 01:21:52,429 --> 01:21:53,778 THERE'S A LITTLE PART OF YOU, 1544 01:21:53,865 --> 01:21:56,563 JUST A LITTLE SPARK LEFT IN YOUR HEART 1545 01:21:56,650 --> 01:21:59,915 THAT HOPES YOU'LL TURN A CORNER AND YOU'LL SEE THEM THERE. 1546 01:22:02,091 --> 01:22:03,570 -GO A LITTLE BIT CLOSER SO YOU CAN GET THE OTHER PART 1547 01:22:03,657 --> 01:22:05,355 OF THE CONVEYOR BELT. 1548 01:22:05,442 --> 01:22:07,139 WALKING OVER THE MOUND 1549 01:22:07,226 --> 01:22:08,706 AND FINDING ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE DID SEE THERE, 1550 01:22:08,793 --> 01:22:11,578 KNOWING THAT THAT'S HIS PROPERTY, 1551 01:22:11,665 --> 01:22:13,276 THAT'S HIS THINGS... 1552 01:22:13,363 --> 01:22:14,799 LIKE, TO ME, I ALWAYS ASSUMED 1553 01:22:14,886 --> 01:22:17,889 THAT THAT PROPERTY WAS ALL CLEARED UP. 1554 01:22:19,108 --> 01:22:21,545 GARBAGE, IT'S BASICALLY GARBAGE, BUT... 1555 01:22:21,632 --> 01:22:23,634 GARBAGE TO MOST PEOPLE, 1556 01:22:23,721 --> 01:22:25,418 BUT THERE COULD BE TREASURES FOR ME IN THERE, 1557 01:22:25,505 --> 01:22:27,464 SO I'M GOING DOWN THERE TO LOOK. 1558 01:22:41,913 --> 01:22:44,133 ARE YOU COMING, LILLIANE? 1559 01:22:47,658 --> 01:22:49,312 AND IT'S BEEN BURNED NOT THAT LONG AGO, 1560 01:22:49,399 --> 01:22:50,791 BECAUSE I CAN STILL SMELL THE HEAT. 1561 01:22:50,878 --> 01:22:52,750 I CAN STILL SMELL BURNED ASHES. 1562 01:22:52,837 --> 01:22:54,621 OH, MY GOD. 1563 01:22:54,708 --> 01:22:56,058 OKAY, THERE'S A SHIRT HERE. 1564 01:22:56,145 --> 01:22:57,363 -OH, YES. 1565 01:22:57,450 --> 01:22:59,017 -A WHITE SHIRT. A MAN'S SHIRT. 1566 01:22:59,104 --> 01:23:02,629 A DIRTY OLD SHIRT, PROBABLY WILLY PICKTON'S. 1567 01:23:09,419 --> 01:23:11,638 OKAY... STAY CALM, LYNN. 1568 01:23:33,530 --> 01:23:35,793 MARNIE WAS ON THAT PIECE OF LAND, 1569 01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:37,229 AND AT LEAST I CAN BE SAYING, 1570 01:23:37,316 --> 01:23:38,622 "I WAS THERE LOOKING FOR YOU, MARNIE, 1571 01:23:38,709 --> 01:23:41,451 AND I WALKED IN YOUR SHOES, MARNIE." 1572 01:23:41,538 --> 01:23:42,974 NOT THE TRAGEDY THAT HAPPENED TO HER, 1573 01:23:43,061 --> 01:23:45,803 BUT AT LEAST I WALKED THE SAME DIRT. 1574 01:23:45,890 --> 01:23:48,588 -I FELT THAT THIS IS WHAT I NEEDED TO DO. 1575 01:23:48,675 --> 01:23:53,115 THIS IS WHAT I NEEDED TO BRING MYSELF CLOSER TO MY SISTER, 1576 01:23:53,202 --> 01:23:55,421 WOULD BE TO BE ON THE GROUNDS THAT SHE WALKED. 1577 01:23:57,554 --> 01:24:00,818 -OUR FATHER, WHO ART IN HEAVEN, HALLOWED BE THY NAME, 1578 01:24:00,905 --> 01:24:03,908 THY KINGDOM COME, THY WILL BE DONE... 1579 01:24:07,955 --> 01:24:11,655 -WE SMILED, AND WE LAUGHED, AND WE CRIED, AND... 1580 01:24:11,742 --> 01:24:14,875 AND WE SAID GOODBYE. 1581 01:24:32,589 --> 01:24:35,505 -AFTER THE MUSEUM SHOW WAS CANCELLED, 1582 01:24:35,592 --> 01:24:37,811 I STORED THE PAINTINGS, 1583 01:24:37,898 --> 01:24:41,554 AND THEY'LL CONTINUE TO BE IN STORAGE 1584 01:24:41,641 --> 01:24:42,816 UNTIL THEY'RE SHOWN IN THE RIGHT PLACE, 1585 01:24:42,903 --> 01:24:44,340 IN THE RIGHT LIGHT, 1586 01:24:44,427 --> 01:24:46,646 AND FOR ME, IT NEEDS TO BE IN A PLACE 1587 01:24:46,733 --> 01:24:48,518 THAT'S VERY WELL RESPECTED 1588 01:24:48,605 --> 01:24:52,435 AND THAT THE WORK GETS RESPECTED AND THE WOMEN GET RESPECT. 1589 01:24:52,522 --> 01:24:54,089 AT THE TIME WHEN I STARTED IT, 1590 01:24:54,176 --> 01:24:56,482 I WAS DOING A LOT OF PERFORMANCE WORK. 1591 01:24:56,569 --> 01:24:58,789 I HAD SOME RECORD YEARS WITH SALES, 1592 01:24:58,876 --> 01:25:02,706 AND INSTEAD OF DOING SOMETHING WITH THAT INCOME 1593 01:25:02,793 --> 01:25:06,797 TO EITHER FURTHER MY POSITION IN MY INDUSTRY 1594 01:25:06,884 --> 01:25:08,886 OR MY PERSONAL LIFE, 1595 01:25:08,973 --> 01:25:11,193 I ESSENTIALLY TOOK EVERY PENNY 1596 01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:13,891 AND PUT IT INTO THIS COLLECTION. 1597 01:25:13,978 --> 01:25:15,110 WAS IT WORTH IT? 1598 01:25:15,197 --> 01:25:16,894 YEAH, IT WAS WORTH IT. 1599 01:25:16,981 --> 01:25:19,679 IT ALLOWED ME TO GROW AS WELL. 1600 01:25:19,766 --> 01:25:21,899 LIKE, IT GAVE ME A GIFT 1601 01:25:21,986 --> 01:25:24,902 TO, FIRST OF ALL, 1602 01:25:24,989 --> 01:25:30,647 ACCEPT AND LET GO OF WHERE I'VE COME FROM. 1603 01:25:44,878 --> 01:25:46,228 THERE IS A MOMENT WHERE I REMEMBER 1604 01:25:46,315 --> 01:25:47,925 WRITING A LETTER TO MY MOM, 1605 01:25:48,012 --> 01:25:50,101 AND IT WASN'T A NICE LETTER, 1606 01:25:50,188 --> 01:25:51,929 AND IT WAS A MOMENT 1607 01:25:52,016 --> 01:25:54,018 WHEN I STOPPED TALKING TO HER, AND I WAS VERY ANGRY. 1608 01:25:54,105 --> 01:25:56,890 I WAS SO ANGRY WITH HER BECAUSE... 1609 01:25:58,327 --> 01:26:01,939 I SAW THIS WOMAN WHO WOULDN'T SPEAK UP 1610 01:26:02,026 --> 01:26:04,855 AND PROTECT HER CHILDREN. 1611 01:26:04,942 --> 01:26:06,813 AND THEN THERE CAME A POINT IN THE COLLECTION 1612 01:26:06,900 --> 01:26:08,772 AS I WAS PAINTING, 1613 01:26:08,859 --> 01:26:13,516 THAT I UNDERSTOOD 1614 01:26:13,603 --> 01:26:17,824 THAT JUST LIKE ME AND THESE WOMEN, 1615 01:26:17,911 --> 01:26:21,176 THAT MY MOTHER IS A WOMAN, TOO, 1616 01:26:21,263 --> 01:26:23,090 AND SHE HAD HER FEARS, 1617 01:26:23,178 --> 01:26:28,618 AND SHE HAD HER LIFE EXPERIENCES THAT WEREN'T NECESSARILY PRETTY, 1618 01:26:28,705 --> 01:26:31,534 AND SHE WAS SCARED, 1619 01:26:31,621 --> 01:26:34,276 AND MY FATHER SCARED HER. 1620 01:26:34,363 --> 01:26:38,497 SO, I LEARNED HOW TO FORGIVE, 1621 01:26:38,584 --> 01:26:44,982 AND I LEARNED HOW TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT WASN'T HER FAULT. 1622 01:26:47,724 --> 01:26:50,596 I CAN'T TAKE BACK WHAT I'VE DONE. 1623 01:26:50,683 --> 01:26:54,774 THE WORK IS GOING TO SPEAK FOR ITSELF. 1624 01:26:55,906 --> 01:27:00,911 BUT IF I CAN TAKE BACK ANY OF THE HURT, 1625 01:27:00,998 --> 01:27:03,218 I WOULD, YOU KNOW, 1626 01:27:03,305 --> 01:27:06,917 BECAUSE THE FAMILIES HAVE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH A LOT. 1627 01:27:09,311 --> 01:27:12,227 AND EVERY DAY, THEY HAVE TO LIVE WITH WHAT HAPPENED. 1628 01:27:14,185 --> 01:27:17,101 AND WHEN I WAS CREATING THIS WORK, 1629 01:27:17,188 --> 01:27:19,930 AND ESPECIALLY AT THE BEGINNING, YOU KNOW, 1630 01:27:20,017 --> 01:27:23,847 I REALLY THOUGHT THAT THEY WOULD BE SEEING 1631 01:27:23,934 --> 01:27:28,199 THAT I WAS DOING SOMETHING FOR THEM, 1632 01:27:28,286 --> 01:27:31,898 BUT BECAUSE OF THE PAINTINGS NOT BEING MEMORIALIZED, 1633 01:27:31,985 --> 01:27:34,249 THEY'RE... YOU KNOW, I'M TALKING ABOUT VIOLENCE. 1634 01:27:34,336 --> 01:27:36,729 I'M TALKING ABOUT NOT HAVING A VOICE. 1635 01:27:36,816 --> 01:27:40,124 I'M TALKING ABOUT NOT BEING SEEN, NOT BEING HEARD. 1636 01:27:40,211 --> 01:27:44,215 THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE PRETTY BECAUSE IT'S NOT PRETTY. 1637 01:27:44,302 --> 01:27:48,219 THIS IS, TO ME, WHAT NEEDS TO BE CONFRONTED. 1638 01:28:23,472 --> 01:28:26,301 -THIS INQUIRY HAS BEEN CHALLENGING. 1639 01:28:26,388 --> 01:28:28,738 WE KNEW FROM THE BEGINNING IT WOULD NOT BE EASY. 1640 01:28:28,825 --> 01:28:30,305 HOW COULD IT BE? 1641 01:28:30,392 --> 01:28:31,393 WE'RE DEALING WITH THE WORST MASS MURDER 1642 01:28:31,480 --> 01:28:33,264 IN CANADIAN HISTORY. 1643 01:28:33,351 --> 01:28:35,788 KEEP IN MIND THAT THESE WOMEN, 1644 01:28:35,875 --> 01:28:37,224 MISSING AND MURDERED WOMEN, 1645 01:28:37,312 --> 01:28:39,618 WERE FORSAKEN TWICE, 1646 01:28:39,705 --> 01:28:42,665 ONCE BY SOCIETY AT LARGE AND AGAIN BY THE POLICE. 1647 01:28:42,752 --> 01:28:45,885 I'VE REVIEWED IN GREAT DETAIL THE EVIDENCE 1648 01:28:45,972 --> 01:28:48,975 THAT THE CRITICAL POLICE FAILINGS WERE MANIFEST 1649 01:28:49,062 --> 01:28:52,675 IN RECURRING PATTERNS OF ERROR, AND THE RESULTS... 1650 01:28:52,762 --> 01:28:56,026 [WOMEN SINGING ABORIGINAL SONG] 1651 01:29:05,862 --> 01:29:07,385 I... 1652 01:29:07,472 --> 01:29:11,868 [WOMEN SINGING ABORIGINAL SONG] 118612

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