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Narrator: In the criminal justice
system, the people are represented
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by two separate yet
equally important groups...
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The police who
investigate crime,
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and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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What is it?
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Ooh, that's a globe-thistle pod,
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from a globe-thistle tree.
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Oh, okay.
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Get real, I can't
just leave for lunch.
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Who says you gotta leave?
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I'm sure you've got a peanut
butter sandwich for me.
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What do you got good to trade?
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Dinner in SoHo, tonight?
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Okay, but I get to
keep my Twinkies.
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Hey, Tisha! Tisha,
stay away from the dog!
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It's not a stray,
it has a collar.
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Are you okay? Did
he bite you, huh?
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She's real cold... they say
she's been out here for hours.
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What is it, a rape or a mugging?
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Don't know. She's in bad shape.
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Skull's fractured, looks
like she's been choked.
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Do they think she's
gonna make it?
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I don't know, they could
barely find blood pressure.
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Hey, guys, move!
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- Where to?
- St. Teresa's.
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Found this... on the path.
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Medic: Comin'
through, comin' through.
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Cerreta: Has she been
conscious? Has she said anything?
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She's in a coma, Detective...
That tends to prevent speech.
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Go to the park, get
your head crushed...
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Makes you want to
move someplace safe.
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- Didn't know
there were any left.
- Is she gonna get out of this?
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Cerebral hemorrhage,
unaligned skull fracture,
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damage to the vocal
chords, add the exposure...
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It's a miracle she's alive.
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If she survives this, she's
in for a long recovery.
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- Are you the cops who
sent us the Jane Doe?
- Logan: Yep.
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Lucy Neven, 568
Central Park West.
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- You're kidding!
- No, I made it up. Why?
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Major soap star... Delia
Mason on "World Without End."
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My mother watches it. She follows the
stories like it happened to the neighbors.
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Tell your mom she's
in for a plot twist.
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You believe this? They
already got her buried.
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She's not in great shape.
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If we don't crack this
quick, we won't be either.
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Whatever's on your plate,
clean it... this comes first.
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Well, it ain't a mugging, 'cause
she still had cash with her.
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Could have been
interrupted, caught in the act.
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She's recognizable... this woman
is on a soap opera every day.
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- That's his John Lennon theory.
- It's not possible just becausewe never heard of her?
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The fact of the matter is, these
people get accosted in the supermarket.
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Phil, nobody's sayin'
"no," okay? It's a possibility.
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Now what about the girl... Is
she in any shape to talk to us?
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Barely breathing.
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Get what you can
without her then, okay?
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I'm on double shifts these days. You
got to take all the work you can get.
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Do you have people hanging around
for her... fans, autograph hounds?
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Five, six a year. Ms. Neven,
she keeps her address a secret.
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Hi.
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Thank you. Thanks.
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She was almost
killed on the show.
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Do you believe in destiny,
karma, that kind of thing?
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She was mugged in
the park, not on TV.
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Does she walk her
dog on a schedule?
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10:00 every night. I give
Roxie a biscuit as they go out.
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Does Ms. Neven
have a busy social life?
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A good-lookin' lady like that? My
aunt gets more action... she's 60.
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They had to write
her out of the show.
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My mother thinks
Lucy is so glamorous.
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I've got it easy
being her secretary.
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She has to work 12 hours a day.
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Did she have time
to make enemies?
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She's up at 5:30, she's
at the studio by 7:00,
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she gets home, she's
too tired to brush her teeth.
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That's hardly time for
friends, let alone enemies.
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Could you tell us if anything
she'd have with her is missing?
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A ring... Her grandmother's
wedding band,
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and a medal...
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Her father gave it to
her, Saint Genesius.
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Saint Genesius, that's...
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The patron saint of actors.
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But why take that?
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They didn't take the
money... That's crazy.
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Do you get requests from
people who ask for things like that?
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I sort them.
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Weird, weirder, weirdest.
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These are just the
past three months.
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"I cannot live with the idea
that you are angry with me.
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I know you would
love my daughter.
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I didn't like it when
you wouldn't talk to us."
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A woman broke Lucy's skull? No.
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Pardon me, Dr. Freud, women
don't get angry and violent?
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Whoa, I hope her mail is
more interesting than mine.
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No contest... these should
be postmarked Bellevue.
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We have three solid
cuckoos in town,
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one in Atlanta,
two in St. Louis,
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three in LA and one in Denver.
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They had to be local... stalked
her, knew when she walked the dog.
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Still, I'll check the
out-of-town alibis,
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you guys knock on some doors.
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First we get some fettuccini,
then we knock on doors. Eh!
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Hello? Mr. Wadsworth?
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Man: Who's asking? Police.
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We are looking for nominations
for Citizen of the Week, sir.
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I am Mr. Wadsworth,
and there is not a person
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on this damn block
worth nominating.
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Yes, and you're not the
first one to say so, sir.
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I wrote her letters. She
said in an interview...
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In lots of interviews...
That she likes to get them.
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Jesse, if you could tell us
where you were at 10:00 or 11:00.
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At my girlfriend's apartment.
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And then I got home...
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I don't know. Dad?
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I got home from
the office at 9:00.
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Jesse got home...
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What, Jesse, 10:00?
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Yeah, I think so.
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Ah, Olivia, our housekeeper...
She'd remember.
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Olivia?
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Olivia, Thursday night...
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What time did Jesse get home?
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Around 10:30.
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I was watching the news,
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Channel 9.
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Thank you.
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The biggest soap convention
of the year... I wouldn't miss that.
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I was there Thursday morning to be
there before the good stuff got sold.
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That's dedication for ya.
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That comb... only $60.
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Delia was using it when she
told Joel she wouldn't marry him.
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She's too good for him. Mmm.
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All the people there, maybe some
dealers or somebody might remember you?
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I don't know.
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There were 6,000 people.
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Oh! I took the shuttle back.
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I threw out the ticket...
I think it's right here.
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Thank you.
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PA system: Dr. Brent,
report to nurse's station 4E.
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Dr. Brent, report to
nurse's station 4E.
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Was he taller than you?
Or the same height?
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Logan: Taller.
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So you got a good look at him?
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Blair: What, he was dark,
he had a dark complexion?
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Logan: All right.
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Is this the best you can do?
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With a woman who can't talk,
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she's good for about
15 minutes at a stretch.
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Thanks, anyway.
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- You got the staff list
of the soap?
- Yeah.
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Maybe someone was hanging
around that door, bothering her.
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It's worth a shot.
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To me, they all look the same.
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Autograph pads, sparkly pens
with big, white balls on top...
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They line up outside.
They can be difficult.
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Maybe Ms. Neven made
one of her fans angry?
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She was very
gracious, more than me.
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The end of the day, I want to
get home... I got a two-year-old kid.
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Did Lucy get close to
anybody on the crew?
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I guess Sara was the closest.
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Cerreta: Was?
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Lucy had her fired.
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- Something about stuff missing.
- Man: Five minutes.
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- You mean she was stealing?
- Sara said no.
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I... I like her.
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But she didn't file a union
grievance when she got canned.
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Did she have the
right to file a grievance?
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Lucy was probably right.
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I got her another
job... Costume house.
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They supply us, other shows.
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I heard of Lucy
turning on people,
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but I thought we
really got along.
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Must have done wonders
for your reputation.
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- I'm happy to have a job.
- Cerreta: Why didn't youtell your union?
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I did. I did!
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You think we didn't check? I'll put you
on the phone with your shop steward.
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You know what they
do with old costumes?
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Actors take 'em home.
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A guy corners me
outside the studio,
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hands me 200... anything
of Lucy's. Who would it hurt?
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What the hell is that? Thou shall not
steal except when nobody gets hurt?
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I needed the money.
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But then he started
wanting slips, bras...
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That stuff doesn't
belong to wardrobe.
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- That's a fine distinction.
- Who was your source of income?
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Mitchell Burkitt, down on the
Lower East Side somewhere.
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What did he do with
Lucy's underwear?
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I really didn't want to know.
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Burkitt, Michael W.
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Criminal trespass
two, burglary three.
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What does he like?
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Soap opera studios,
movie locations.
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Also, an assault on a
guard who tried to stop him.
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The supplier gets canned,
no more underwear to sell.
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- A ring
and a medal... bigger bucks.
- Draw some arrest papers.
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Phil, we're not
even pregnant yet.
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Assault record? I
want to be prepared.
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The stereo's on... he's at home.
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Man: Who is it?
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Con Ed, checkin' for a gas leak.
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- Whoa!
- Drop it! Drop it, don't even
think about it, Mitch!
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Now!
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Ow!
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You are under arrest for the
attempted murder of Lucy Neven!
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Why didn't you
say you were cops?
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You have the right to
remain silent. If you choose...
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- You didn't say you were cops!
- anything you do say
can and will...
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In my neighborhood, you wouldn't
answer the door without a gun.
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Next time, get
one that's licensed.
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I didn't do the lady.
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What do you think, I'm crazy?
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Actually, you're about the
sanest person we've met all week.
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Why would I do her, huh?
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She's a cash cow...
I survive on her stuff.
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Not since you lost your source.
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So, Mr. Burkitt, where
were you Thursday night?
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I was alone.
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Prove I wasn't.
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Prove you were!
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Your Lucy stuff... who buys it?
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Kleinman, down on 15th Street.
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I want a lawyer.
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Yeah, you'll get a lawyer.
I'll even pay for the call.
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Don't ever say cops
aren't generous.
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You want stills from "South
Pacific," Mitzi Gaynor's shoes? Fine.
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Logan: Not Lucy
Neven's underwear?
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Do I look like a pervert?
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Who buys Lucy's clothes?
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Customers' names...
I'm sorry, it's private.
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Did you give Mitchell Burkitt an
order to steal Lucy Neven's jewelry?
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I sell memorabilia... you
think this is a hot car business?
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- You give me an order,
I get it stolen for you?
- Suppose we get a warrant,
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Mr. Kleinman, and
we do an inventory,
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you think we're gonna find
any stolen goods around here?
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- From a soap opera
studio, maybe?
- I never accept...
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Do you want us
to start checking?
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You know, you're starting
to make me a little impatient.
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Voorman. Tim Voorman.
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Works at the Club Vivant.
240
00:13:56,235 --> 00:13:58,727
Emcee: Ladies and
gentleman, Tim Voorman.
241
00:13:58,771 --> 00:14:01,798
Mr. Voorman... Sergeant
Cerreta, Detective Logan.
242
00:14:01,841 --> 00:14:03,400
Very impressive.
243
00:14:03,443 --> 00:14:07,039
Louis Kleinman says you ordered
Lucy Neven's intimate apparel.
244
00:14:08,614 --> 00:14:11,880
You think I was
involved with...?
245
00:14:11,918 --> 00:14:15,411
Yeah, well, I also ordered
Joan Collins's costumes.
246
00:14:15,455 --> 00:14:17,287
They help me get into character.
247
00:14:17,323 --> 00:14:20,191
- And they fit you?
- Well, I'm very petite.
248
00:14:20,226 --> 00:14:24,027
Mr. Voorman, Thursday night...
did you take a walk in the park?
249
00:14:24,063 --> 00:14:26,055
I don't believe this.
250
00:14:26,099 --> 00:14:29,399
I was here... Two
shows, 8:00 and 10:00.
251
00:14:32,705 --> 00:14:35,800
You happen to leave
between shows?
252
00:14:35,842 --> 00:14:39,335
Do you have any idea how
long it takes to put on this face?
253
00:14:39,379 --> 00:14:41,871
And contrary to
what you might think,
254
00:14:41,914 --> 00:14:44,076
I don't go out
in public in drag.
255
00:14:44,117 --> 00:14:45,710
I do this for a living.
256
00:14:45,752 --> 00:14:48,654
Cerreta: This isn't your act,
so you can pack in the attitude.
257
00:14:48,688 --> 00:14:50,748
Do you have any witnesses
who saw you here?
258
00:14:52,358 --> 00:14:55,089
What's the mystery?
259
00:14:55,128 --> 00:15:00,226
I got a guy from Jersey who
sees my Lucy act six nights a week.
260
00:15:00,266 --> 00:15:03,259
One guy, he wants to talk with
Lucy about the plot on the show.
261
00:15:03,302 --> 00:15:07,205
Another one, a real
weirdo, buys my Lucy dress.
262
00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,232
Who attacked her? One of them.
263
00:15:09,275 --> 00:15:12,609
- Who bought the dress?
- Out of his mind.
264
00:15:12,645 --> 00:15:15,171
He loved Lucy, he
wanted to be with her.
265
00:15:15,214 --> 00:15:17,342
Offers 250... I thought
he was kidding.
266
00:15:17,383 --> 00:15:19,215
500... I said no.
267
00:15:19,252 --> 00:15:22,017
1,000... I didn't
want to sell it, but...
268
00:15:23,589 --> 00:15:25,285
he scared me a little.
269
00:15:25,324 --> 00:15:28,852
- You got the name?
- He didn't ask for a receipt.
270
00:15:30,396 --> 00:15:34,094
Mr. Webster? Hi, this is Joe
Harris from the Club Vivant.
271
00:15:34,133 --> 00:15:36,193
Mr. Nichols?
272
00:15:36,235 --> 00:15:38,329
Sam Jones, the Club Vivant.
273
00:15:38,371 --> 00:15:41,341
Mr. Voorman? He'd like to
buy back that dress he sold you.
274
00:15:41,374 --> 00:15:44,435
You know the dress you
bought from Tim Voorman?
275
00:15:44,477 --> 00:15:46,878
Okay. Sorry.
276
00:15:46,913 --> 00:15:49,007
- Thank you.
- Sorry to bother you.
277
00:15:49,048 --> 00:15:52,212
We thought the letters were bad...
these people are worse in person.
278
00:15:52,251 --> 00:15:55,983
Hello? Jesse Unger, please.
279
00:15:56,022 --> 00:15:58,958
Could you give me his work
number then? Thank you.
280
00:15:58,991 --> 00:16:00,721
Mr. Markson? Hi.
281
00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,854
This is Sam Jones
from the Club Vivant.
282
00:16:02,895 --> 00:16:05,797
Mr. Unger? Yeah, I'll wait.
283
00:16:05,832 --> 00:16:08,825
That Lucy Neven dress... the
one you bought from Tim Voorman?
284
00:16:08,868 --> 00:16:11,303
Well, he would like...
285
00:16:11,337 --> 00:16:13,602
Sorry to bother you.
286
00:16:13,639 --> 00:16:16,234
Mr. Unger? Yeah, this
is Joe Harris, Club Vivant.
287
00:16:16,275 --> 00:16:20,144
Mr. Voorman would like to
buy back his Lucy Neven dress.
288
00:16:20,179 --> 00:16:23,513
Uh-huh. Oh.
289
00:16:23,549 --> 00:16:26,075
Yeah, well, certainly.
Well, thank you.
290
00:16:27,753 --> 00:16:31,087
Mr. Unger wants
to keep his dress.
291
00:16:31,123 --> 00:16:32,751
Really?
292
00:16:33,793 --> 00:16:36,558
I can't stop. This has
to be done by tonight.
293
00:16:36,596 --> 00:16:39,998
- Did you buy the dress?
- Yes, I did, for my collection.
294
00:16:40,032 --> 00:16:42,160
I needed something special.
295
00:16:44,003 --> 00:16:46,234
Terrible, Lucy dying, hmm?
296
00:16:46,272 --> 00:16:48,070
Lucy didn't die, Jesse.
297
00:16:48,107 --> 00:16:51,566
No, on the show. They
had to get rid of her.
298
00:16:51,611 --> 00:16:55,013
Thursday night, at your
girlfriend's... what time did you leave?
299
00:16:55,047 --> 00:16:58,142
I already told
you... About 10:00.
300
00:16:59,418 --> 00:17:01,512
Is your girlfriend
Sandy at home, today?
301
00:17:01,554 --> 00:17:03,989
No, she's not. She's working.
302
00:17:04,991 --> 00:17:07,358
You've got the wrong idea.
303
00:17:07,393 --> 00:17:10,886
Jesse, his Lucy
scrapbook... It's a hobby.
304
00:17:10,930 --> 00:17:14,799
Logan: That include
buying her dress?
305
00:17:14,834 --> 00:17:16,803
You don't understand.
306
00:17:16,836 --> 00:17:19,135
Boy, you'll think I'm crazy.
307
00:17:19,171 --> 00:17:22,369
We went to a Tina Turner
concert, Jess and me.
308
00:17:22,408 --> 00:17:26,038
I wanted her autograph. We
waited in the cold two hours.
309
00:17:26,078 --> 00:17:28,206
But an autograph is not a dress.
310
00:17:28,247 --> 00:17:31,740
Lucy... to me, she's
boring. So what?
311
00:17:31,784 --> 00:17:34,151
Jesse doesn't like Tina Turner.
312
00:17:34,186 --> 00:17:36,746
I mean, didn't you
ever collect anybody?
313
00:17:36,789 --> 00:17:39,486
My wife has a lot of
Rosemary Clooney records.
314
00:17:39,525 --> 00:17:40,823
Who?
315
00:17:40,860 --> 00:17:44,058
Ms. Reynolds, you said
Mr. Unger left at 10:00 p.m., right?
316
00:17:44,096 --> 00:17:46,497
What you're thinking
about Jesse... it couldn't be.
317
00:17:46,532 --> 00:17:48,933
Look, are you sure
about the time?
318
00:17:48,968 --> 00:17:52,735
It might have been
earlier... Maybe a quarter of.
319
00:17:52,772 --> 00:17:55,799
We had an argument.
320
00:17:55,841 --> 00:17:58,606
He wanted me
to try the dress on.
321
00:17:58,644 --> 00:18:00,545
I didn't think it was right.
322
00:18:01,380 --> 00:18:05,112
Quarter to 10:00, 10:00... 15 minutes...
it really makes that big a difference?
323
00:18:05,151 --> 00:18:08,349
Hey, 15 minutes gives him a
lot more time to get to Lucy's.
324
00:18:08,387 --> 00:18:10,856
Sandy's on 97th Street.
325
00:18:10,890 --> 00:18:13,121
Jesse's home, 57th Street,
326
00:18:13,159 --> 00:18:15,025
30 to 45 minutes later.
327
00:18:15,061 --> 00:18:17,792
And Lucy lives in
between at 65th Street.
328
00:18:17,830 --> 00:18:20,026
All right, it's
enough time, barely,
329
00:18:20,066 --> 00:18:22,058
if he knew when
Lucy walked the dog.
330
00:18:22,101 --> 00:18:25,333
So he stopped by at Lucy's on
his way home to what, to talk to her?
331
00:18:25,371 --> 00:18:28,808
- You're the one who talked
to him. He look goofy to you?
- He seemed fine.
332
00:18:28,841 --> 00:18:30,332
But who can tell anymore?
333
00:18:30,376 --> 00:18:32,470
31 years old, he
still lives at Daddy's.
334
00:18:32,511 --> 00:18:36,004
And also he sprang for 1,000
bucks to buy Lucy's dress.
335
00:18:36,048 --> 00:18:37,880
What about his
arrival time at home...
336
00:18:37,917 --> 00:18:39,909
How solid is that alibi?
337
00:18:45,024 --> 00:18:47,289
I have friends in
the fashion world.
338
00:18:47,326 --> 00:18:48,988
Something wrong with that?
339
00:18:49,028 --> 00:18:50,724
So you got your son his job?
340
00:18:50,763 --> 00:18:53,790
I arranged an interview,
they offered him the job.
341
00:18:53,833 --> 00:18:57,702
The woman's
dress... That's $1,000.
342
00:18:57,737 --> 00:19:00,332
Your son can afford
that on the job he has?
343
00:19:00,373 --> 00:19:04,743
Jesse's interests... he doesn't
have to be like everybody else.
344
00:19:04,777 --> 00:19:08,908
Following an actress's
career... it's harmless.
345
00:19:08,948 --> 00:19:10,746
Up to a point.
346
00:19:10,783 --> 00:19:13,184
Mr. Unger, when
Jesse arrived home,
347
00:19:13,219 --> 00:19:16,314
your housekeeper said it
was 10:30. You said 10:00.
348
00:19:16,355 --> 00:19:19,086
My son has problems,
349
00:19:19,125 --> 00:19:22,027
violence is not one of them.
350
00:19:22,061 --> 00:19:25,054
Sandy was upset... the dress.
351
00:19:25,097 --> 00:19:27,657
I only wanted to see, if
she has such a good figure,
352
00:19:27,700 --> 00:19:29,464
how'd she look
in it, that's all.
353
00:19:29,502 --> 00:19:31,562
We can clear this thing up easy.
354
00:19:31,604 --> 00:19:34,164
You left Sandy's apartment
at 10:00? Mm-hmm.
355
00:19:34,206 --> 00:19:36,471
- Now, how'd you get home?
- I walked.
356
00:19:36,509 --> 00:19:39,035
40 blocks in half an hour?
357
00:19:39,078 --> 00:19:40,944
You must be a marathon walker.
358
00:19:40,980 --> 00:19:43,211
Maybe I took a cab.
359
00:19:43,249 --> 00:19:44,911
Ahh.
360
00:19:44,950 --> 00:19:47,852
You know what we oughta do? We
oughta all go down to the precinct,
361
00:19:47,887 --> 00:19:50,516
we'll talk the whole thing
over, we'll call the cab company,
362
00:19:50,556 --> 00:19:52,957
get the whole thing settled,
you know what I mean?
363
00:19:52,992 --> 00:19:56,520
Um... okay, fine. Sure.
364
00:19:56,562 --> 00:19:57,928
Good.
365
00:19:57,963 --> 00:20:00,432
I'm sorry about Lucy.
366
00:20:00,466 --> 00:20:02,298
But hurting her?
367
00:20:02,334 --> 00:20:04,428
No, I loved watching her.
368
00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:06,268
I have a little
television at work.
369
00:20:06,305 --> 00:20:09,901
We want to remind you that
you're entitled to a lawyer.
370
00:20:09,942 --> 00:20:14,243
Sandy will tell you. Olivia, she
said that I came home at 10:30.
371
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,215
I would never hurt Lucy.
372
00:20:16,248 --> 00:20:18,274
Will you excuse me?
373
00:20:25,524 --> 00:20:28,858
He's in tooth fairy
land, and he's scared.
374
00:20:28,894 --> 00:20:31,591
The hospital says Lucy
has some paralysis,
375
00:20:31,630 --> 00:20:35,294
she still has trouble with blurred
vision, but they will bring her over.
376
00:20:35,334 --> 00:20:38,793
Now do you think you can get
this guy to volunteer for a line-up?
377
00:20:38,838 --> 00:20:40,670
I don't know. What if he won't?
378
00:20:40,706 --> 00:20:42,334
Heck if I know.
379
00:20:42,374 --> 00:20:44,070
Okay.
380
00:20:49,448 --> 00:20:52,350
Jesse, would you
like to be in a line-up?
381
00:20:52,384 --> 00:20:54,478
If nobody identifies
you, you go back to work.
382
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,921
A line-up? For who?
383
00:20:56,956 --> 00:20:58,322
Lucy Neven.
384
00:21:20,946 --> 00:21:23,575
Take your time.
There's no hurry.
385
00:21:36,462 --> 00:21:40,160
Oh my God. That's... That's him.
386
00:21:40,199 --> 00:21:44,796
He stopped me on the
street a couple of times.
387
00:21:44,837 --> 00:21:46,965
Which one is he, hmm?
388
00:21:47,006 --> 00:21:50,568
It's num... number four.
389
00:21:50,609 --> 00:21:53,909
He said that he needed me.
390
00:21:56,081 --> 00:21:57,982
Let's get the video camera.
391
00:21:58,017 --> 00:21:59,986
One more shot at him
and he's gonna talk.
392
00:22:00,019 --> 00:22:02,250
Yeah.
393
00:22:02,288 --> 00:22:05,486
Your dad will be here soon.
You don't have to talk now.
394
00:22:05,524 --> 00:22:07,652
Was Lucy here?
395
00:22:08,928 --> 00:22:10,954
She says she saw you that night.
396
00:22:25,544 --> 00:22:28,537
Had these on him
when he was booked.
397
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,961
Lucy's ring, Jesse.
398
00:22:50,402 --> 00:22:52,371
Her medal.
399
00:22:57,209 --> 00:22:59,371
Where'd you get these?
400
00:23:00,779 --> 00:23:02,975
She wouldn't listen.
401
00:23:03,015 --> 00:23:05,951
I just wanted to talk.
402
00:23:07,453 --> 00:23:09,786
She told me to leave her alone.
403
00:23:09,822 --> 00:23:12,223
I didn't want to hurt her.
404
00:23:13,792 --> 00:23:15,818
God, her eyes...
405
00:23:15,861 --> 00:23:19,059
if you saw her eyes.
406
00:23:20,766 --> 00:23:22,701
She walked right by me.
407
00:23:24,069 --> 00:23:26,698
She didn't say anything.
408
00:23:26,739 --> 00:23:30,642
I tried to tell her
how I need her.
409
00:23:30,676 --> 00:23:33,305
I didn't want to hurt her.
410
00:23:37,449 --> 00:23:40,180
She just got tangled
up in her dog leash...
411
00:23:42,121 --> 00:23:46,081
and I went to help her, and
she started hitting at me...
412
00:23:46,125 --> 00:23:48,526
and the dog was barking.
413
00:23:49,862 --> 00:23:51,956
I just wanted to talk to her.
414
00:23:54,066 --> 00:23:57,867
That's all, I ju... I just
wanted to talk to her.
415
00:24:00,272 --> 00:24:02,798
Olivet: How long have you
been aware of Lucy Neven?
416
00:24:02,841 --> 00:24:04,833
Jesse: Ever since
I can remember.
417
00:24:04,877 --> 00:24:08,041
- Olivet: Did you firstrecognize her on her TV show?
- Come on, Ben...
418
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,517
- Jesse: Yes.
- You saw that tape... this guy's
got toys in the attic.
419
00:24:11,550 --> 00:24:14,884
Is he competent enough
to help you with his case?
420
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,355
I guarantee you he didn't
know what he was doing.
421
00:24:17,389 --> 00:24:19,415
That's not the
issue here, is it?
422
00:24:19,458 --> 00:24:21,256
Can he help you defend him?
423
00:24:21,293 --> 00:24:24,058
Maybe he can, but
he's still bonkers.
424
00:24:24,096 --> 00:24:26,463
He didn't know what he was
doing when he attacked her.
425
00:24:26,498 --> 00:24:28,933
You don't know
that and neither do I.
426
00:24:28,968 --> 00:24:31,733
Let's first see if
he can stand trial.
427
00:24:31,770 --> 00:24:35,366
I've seen trials on
TV. Lucy was in one.
428
00:24:35,407 --> 00:24:37,239
What happens at a trial, Jesse?
429
00:24:37,276 --> 00:24:39,643
Why are you asking me that, hmm?
430
00:24:39,678 --> 00:24:42,341
We both know they
decide if you're guilty.
431
00:24:42,381 --> 00:24:44,407
What does your lawyer do?
432
00:24:44,450 --> 00:24:47,181
He tries to defend me from...
433
00:24:47,219 --> 00:24:51,020
He keeps me from going to jail.
434
00:24:51,056 --> 00:24:53,582
Why would you go to jail, Jesse?
435
00:24:53,625 --> 00:24:56,220
Sorry, Dr. Olivet, off limits.
436
00:24:56,261 --> 00:24:58,457
I'm not asking about
the crime, Dr. Mandel,
437
00:24:58,497 --> 00:25:00,966
I'm asking if he understands
why people go to jail.
438
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,265
People go to jail because
they break the law.
439
00:25:03,302 --> 00:25:05,498
Hurting somebody...
Is that breaking the law?
440
00:25:06,672 --> 00:25:08,504
These are stupid questions.
441
00:25:09,541 --> 00:25:13,342
Jesse, please... Is it
wrong to hurt somebody?
442
00:25:13,379 --> 00:25:15,746
I just wanted to talk to her.
443
00:25:15,781 --> 00:25:17,841
That's all.
444
00:25:21,487 --> 00:25:23,615
Your Honor, what
is the argument?
445
00:25:23,655 --> 00:25:25,624
Mr. Unger understands
the legal process.
446
00:25:25,657 --> 00:25:28,957
Ben, he babbled a confession.
That doesn't give you a problem?
447
00:25:28,994 --> 00:25:32,294
He was frightened. That does not
mean he's not competent to stand trial.
448
00:25:32,331 --> 00:25:34,823
He does not understand
the criminal justice system.
449
00:25:34,867 --> 00:25:37,769
- He knows what a trial is.
- Hey, hey, this isn't
a free-for-all.
450
00:25:37,803 --> 00:25:39,829
I ask the questions.
451
00:25:39,872 --> 00:25:43,172
You honestly contend he
can't give you pertinent facts?
452
00:25:44,443 --> 00:25:46,309
Judge, he is suffering
a neurotic denial.
453
00:25:46,345 --> 00:25:49,008
It is hard to get any
information out of him at all.
454
00:25:49,048 --> 00:25:52,246
Well, I'll read the
doctors' reports again.
455
00:25:52,284 --> 00:25:55,311
Meantime, Mr. Unger
stays at Rikers.
456
00:25:57,022 --> 00:25:59,753
Man: Come on,
Lucy, you can do it.
457
00:25:59,792 --> 00:26:02,057
Right to the end.
458
00:26:02,094 --> 00:26:03,824
Keep walking.
459
00:26:05,030 --> 00:26:07,192
It's a piece of cake.
460
00:26:12,204 --> 00:26:15,299
They say if we go to trial,
that you'll be able to testify.
461
00:26:15,340 --> 00:26:17,275
It's your choice.
462
00:26:17,309 --> 00:26:19,574
Don't force yourself, honey.
463
00:26:19,611 --> 00:26:24,675
I'll testify if I have to
crawl into the courtroom.
464
00:26:26,785 --> 00:26:29,186
He came after me before.
465
00:26:29,221 --> 00:26:31,713
He called the
house several times.
466
00:26:31,757 --> 00:26:35,421
Somehow he got the number.
467
00:26:35,461 --> 00:26:37,453
If he doesn't go to jail...
468
00:26:53,846 --> 00:26:56,645
Lucy, I'll do everything I can
469
00:26:56,682 --> 00:26:58,651
to make sure that never happens.
470
00:27:02,121 --> 00:27:04,113
Schreiber says
we can indict him.
471
00:27:04,156 --> 00:27:06,250
He's competent to stand trial.
472
00:27:09,728 --> 00:27:11,663
Does that serve justice...
473
00:27:11,697 --> 00:27:14,690
Jesse Unger on trial,
Jesse Unger in prison?
474
00:27:14,733 --> 00:27:17,999
If he's responsible for his actions,
yes, I think justice is served.
475
00:27:18,036 --> 00:27:21,131
Mr. Stone, my son,
476
00:27:21,173 --> 00:27:24,109
after he lost his mother...
477
00:27:24,143 --> 00:27:27,409
You can't imagine...
I tried to help him.
478
00:27:27,446 --> 00:27:29,745
Why didn't you seek
professional help?
479
00:27:29,781 --> 00:27:32,341
He's not like other people.
480
00:27:32,384 --> 00:27:34,580
He never seemed dangerous.
481
00:27:35,988 --> 00:27:37,684
Jack, it's your meeting.
482
00:27:37,723 --> 00:27:41,023
Reconsider going to trial, Ben...
work out some kind of treatment for him.
483
00:27:41,059 --> 00:27:43,688
If they can protect
Lucy Neven from him...
484
00:27:43,729 --> 00:27:46,665
- You know that they can't.
- A jury can.
485
00:27:47,699 --> 00:27:49,998
All I've got to do is
prove that he was insane
486
00:27:50,035 --> 00:27:53,028
at the moment he attacked
her, not a second before.
487
00:27:53,071 --> 00:27:54,767
Not a second after.
488
00:27:54,806 --> 00:27:58,402
I've tried a lot of these
cases, Ben, you haven't.
489
00:27:58,443 --> 00:28:01,038
I'm a quick study.
490
00:28:01,079 --> 00:28:03,014
Why is Gaffney so confident?
491
00:28:03,048 --> 00:28:05,449
Insanity defenses
are not easy to win.
492
00:28:05,484 --> 00:28:09,046
Olivet'll testify he's not
delusional. What more can we do?
493
00:28:09,087 --> 00:28:12,080
"Delusional"... fancy word.
494
00:28:12,124 --> 00:28:14,525
Might as well say
"subordinated debenture."
495
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,758
A jury knows "crazy"
and "not crazy," Paul.
496
00:28:17,796 --> 00:28:19,594
They don't know "legally crazy."
497
00:28:19,631 --> 00:28:21,930
You know what really worries me?
498
00:28:21,967 --> 00:28:25,233
I make my best case to
prove he's sane, we lose.
499
00:28:25,270 --> 00:28:27,102
He goes to a hospital,
500
00:28:27,139 --> 00:28:31,577
I have to turn 180°
and argue he is not sane
501
00:28:31,610 --> 00:28:34,603
so they keep him
there. It's no-win.
502
00:28:34,646 --> 00:28:37,047
Maybe we make a deal... assault.
503
00:28:37,082 --> 00:28:40,075
Bad risk... goes away
for a couple years,
504
00:28:40,118 --> 00:28:42,815
as soon as he gets out,
he could kill that woman.
505
00:28:49,428 --> 00:28:51,420
Mm-hmm?
506
00:28:53,932 --> 00:28:57,232
Lucy Neven...
better talk to her.
507
00:28:57,269 --> 00:29:00,967
How could they let him mail it?
Why didn't somebody stop him?
508
00:29:02,941 --> 00:29:05,968
"I never wanted to hurt
you. I had to bring you close.
509
00:29:06,011 --> 00:29:08,480
We're the same person.
We'll always be close."
510
00:29:08,513 --> 00:29:10,414
I'm sorry, this shouldn't
have happened.
511
00:29:12,184 --> 00:29:14,847
They put a watch
on his mail today.
512
00:29:14,886 --> 00:29:17,378
He said we're the same person.
513
00:29:17,422 --> 00:29:20,187
He sounds crazier than ever.
514
00:29:20,225 --> 00:29:23,491
He's shrewder than ever.
He wants to sound crazy.
515
00:29:24,663 --> 00:29:26,598
Do we have to turn
this over to Gaffney?
516
00:29:27,933 --> 00:29:30,903
If we don't turn it over, he's
gonna get a subpoena anyway.
517
00:29:30,936 --> 00:29:33,030
Jesse's gonna tell
him he sent the letter,
518
00:29:33,071 --> 00:29:35,666
and they're gonna use it
to show how crazy he is.
519
00:29:35,707 --> 00:29:37,403
That's what he wants.
520
00:29:40,846 --> 00:29:43,839
Stone: And after reading the
report of his personal history?
521
00:29:43,882 --> 00:29:45,544
I examined Mr. Unger.
522
00:29:45,584 --> 00:29:48,213
Did you reach any conclusions
about his mental condition?
523
00:29:48,253 --> 00:29:49,687
Yes, I have.
524
00:29:49,721 --> 00:29:53,055
Mr. Unger has personality
and character disorders.
525
00:29:53,091 --> 00:29:55,390
He's obsessive-compulsive,
526
00:29:55,427 --> 00:29:58,363
and exhibits signs of
extreme depression.
527
00:29:58,397 --> 00:29:59,961
Does this mean
he is incapable of
528
00:29:59,985 --> 00:30:02,198
understanding the
consequences of his actions?
529
00:30:02,234 --> 00:30:06,695
No, it means he's unhappy,
and in some ways dysfunctional.
530
00:30:06,738 --> 00:30:10,402
In your expert opinion, does
Mr. Unger suffer from any condition
531
00:30:10,442 --> 00:30:13,310
that would impair his ability
to know right from wrong?
532
00:30:13,345 --> 00:30:16,179
Despite his emotional
problems, in my opinion,
533
00:30:16,214 --> 00:30:20,549
Mr. Unger has a complete understanding
of the consequences of his actions.
534
00:30:20,585 --> 00:30:22,281
Thank you. No further questions.
535
00:30:23,322 --> 00:30:24,881
Dr. Olivet,
536
00:30:24,923 --> 00:30:29,725
you spent three hours
talking to Mr. Unger.
537
00:30:31,196 --> 00:30:33,062
Do you think
that's sufficient time
538
00:30:33,098 --> 00:30:35,727
to make a judgment
on his mental health?
539
00:30:35,767 --> 00:30:38,430
- Yes, I do.
- Admirable.
540
00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:43,170
So you are telling this court,
with absolute assurance,
541
00:30:43,208 --> 00:30:46,406
that Mr. Unger did
not have an episode
542
00:30:46,445 --> 00:30:48,346
in which he did not know
543
00:30:48,380 --> 00:30:50,815
the consequences
of his behavior?
544
00:30:50,849 --> 00:30:53,580
In my opinion, Mr. Unger
knows right from wrong.
545
00:30:54,619 --> 00:30:57,783
He told me he'd been watching me
546
00:30:57,823 --> 00:31:00,520
because he knew I would...
547
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:04,428
I would love him
if only I met him.
548
00:31:04,463 --> 00:31:07,331
He was very excited,
549
00:31:07,366 --> 00:31:10,803
so I tried to keep him calm,
550
00:31:10,836 --> 00:31:15,035
and then I tried to get away.
551
00:31:15,073 --> 00:31:17,633
He told me to stop.
552
00:31:17,676 --> 00:31:21,044
And when I didn't,
he attacked me.
553
00:31:24,716 --> 00:31:27,914
Ms. Neven, prior to this attack,
554
00:31:27,953 --> 00:31:30,388
had you ever seen
the defendant before?
555
00:31:30,422 --> 00:31:34,826
He accosted me on
the street several times...
556
00:31:34,860 --> 00:31:37,955
I don't remember how many.
557
00:31:37,996 --> 00:31:41,694
He told me that he had
called me on the phone.
558
00:31:42,734 --> 00:31:44,327
What is your profession?
559
00:31:44,369 --> 00:31:48,238
I'm... I was an actress.
560
00:31:48,273 --> 00:31:50,299
You were an actress?
561
00:31:50,342 --> 00:31:52,140
Does that mean you don't expect
562
00:31:52,177 --> 00:31:53,907
to be able to
continue your career?
563
00:31:53,945 --> 00:31:55,675
Objection... relevance.
564
00:31:55,714 --> 00:31:57,808
The extent of Ms.
Neven's injuries is relevant
565
00:31:57,849 --> 00:31:59,818
to the attempted murder
charge, Your Honor.
566
00:31:59,851 --> 00:32:02,912
Overruled. The
witness will answer.
567
00:32:04,923 --> 00:32:08,291
I'll be happy if
I'm able to walk.
568
00:32:11,396 --> 00:32:13,524
Thank you. No further questions.
569
00:32:14,699 --> 00:32:16,691
Mr. Gaffney?
570
00:32:24,976 --> 00:32:27,639
I have no questions
of this witness.
571
00:32:31,049 --> 00:32:34,178
- Olivet was convincing.
- Convincing isn't the point.
572
00:32:34,219 --> 00:32:38,020
Did they understand
"crazy" versus "legally crazy"?
573
00:32:47,399 --> 00:32:50,858
Voices, delusions... convenient.
574
00:32:50,902 --> 00:32:54,703
The one illness that
wins an insanity defense.
575
00:32:55,740 --> 00:32:57,606
You read Mandel's transcript.
576
00:32:57,642 --> 00:32:59,508
Jesse talk about voices then?
577
00:32:59,544 --> 00:33:01,809
Mandel interviewed him again.
578
00:33:01,847 --> 00:33:03,577
Yeah, I wonder why?
579
00:33:03,615 --> 00:33:06,084
Gaffney... Would
he coach his client?
580
00:33:06,117 --> 00:33:09,246
Well, it's hard to
believe. It's not his style.
581
00:33:09,287 --> 00:33:11,813
I'll tell you one voice
Jesse Unger is hearing...
582
00:33:11,857 --> 00:33:14,383
The voice telling him
how not to get convicted.
583
00:33:17,195 --> 00:33:21,462
Listen to this. "Mandel: 'Why
didn't you tell me you heard voices?'
584
00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:25,494
Jesse: 'The voice said not to
tell you. My father said I should. ""
585
00:33:25,537 --> 00:33:27,529
"My father said I should."
586
00:33:28,707 --> 00:33:30,869
Your interviews... no voices?
587
00:33:32,210 --> 00:33:34,008
Is he delusional?
588
00:33:34,045 --> 00:33:37,015
Am I 100% sure? 99.
589
00:33:37,048 --> 00:33:40,041
- I'd prefer 100.
- Never happens.
590
00:33:40,118 --> 00:33:42,849
Somebody told Dad
what would get Jesse off.
591
00:33:42,888 --> 00:33:44,880
Dad told Jesse.
592
00:33:44,923 --> 00:33:47,620
Voices are a very
specific symptom.
593
00:33:47,659 --> 00:33:50,652
- Mandel.
- Intentionally, I doubt it.
594
00:33:50,695 --> 00:33:52,891
What about Gaffney?
595
00:33:52,931 --> 00:33:55,901
Paul read the transcripts
of his other cases.
596
00:33:55,934 --> 00:33:57,800
Not all of 'em.
597
00:33:58,904 --> 00:34:01,032
Well, then, dig up the
ones you haven't read
598
00:34:01,072 --> 00:34:03,940
and let's find out how crazy
his other clients really were.
599
00:34:06,645 --> 00:34:10,514
After Jesse's mother died,
he couldn't concentrate.
600
00:34:11,650 --> 00:34:13,710
He used to say he
was going crazy.
601
00:34:15,453 --> 00:34:17,649
What was he most
concerned about?
602
00:34:18,924 --> 00:34:21,416
He thought the world
was going to blow up.
603
00:34:21,459 --> 00:34:23,826
What were some of
his other problems?
604
00:34:25,530 --> 00:34:28,591
He said he heard
voices in his head.
605
00:34:30,001 --> 00:34:31,970
Like a radio.
606
00:34:33,204 --> 00:34:35,002
Thank you.
607
00:34:40,078 --> 00:34:42,411
Mr. Unger...
608
00:34:42,447 --> 00:34:46,407
when exactly did Jesse
tell you he heard voices?
609
00:34:47,819 --> 00:34:50,983
I think maybe in his
sophomore year in high school...
610
00:34:51,022 --> 00:34:53,958
Could have been
earlier, maybe later.
611
00:34:53,992 --> 00:34:55,688
I can't remember.
612
00:34:55,727 --> 00:34:59,164
What did he say
these voices told him?
613
00:35:02,067 --> 00:35:03,831
I can't remember.
614
00:35:03,868 --> 00:35:06,804
You remember he heard voices.
615
00:35:08,273 --> 00:35:10,037
I do. Yes, I do.
616
00:35:10,075 --> 00:35:12,806
Did you seek psychiatric
care for your son at this time?
617
00:35:16,915 --> 00:35:19,510
No. Why not?
618
00:35:19,551 --> 00:35:21,349
Well...
619
00:35:23,154 --> 00:35:24,918
I'm not sure why I didn't.
620
00:35:26,558 --> 00:35:28,618
That's odd.
621
00:35:29,661 --> 00:35:31,152
Thank you.
622
00:35:31,196 --> 00:35:35,429
Mr. Unger suffers from
processive disintegration.
623
00:35:35,467 --> 00:35:39,063
One of the symptoms is
command hallucinations...
624
00:35:39,104 --> 00:35:41,198
Voices telling him to do things.
625
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,538
Now, Dr. Mandel...
626
00:35:43,575 --> 00:35:46,101
Jesse Unger told you
627
00:35:46,144 --> 00:35:50,275
that he heard voices telling him
628
00:35:50,315 --> 00:35:52,910
to kill Lucy Neven.
629
00:35:52,951 --> 00:35:57,787
Would that mean that he was
out of control of his actions?
630
00:35:57,822 --> 00:35:59,654
In my opinion, yes.
631
00:35:59,691 --> 00:36:03,526
Mr. Unger is often guided
by an overpowering voice
632
00:36:03,561 --> 00:36:05,223
he believes to be real.
633
00:36:05,263 --> 00:36:07,095
Thank you, Doctor.
634
00:36:10,602 --> 00:36:13,197
"Processive disintegration."
635
00:36:16,041 --> 00:36:20,172
Is that a recognized
medical diagnosis?
636
00:36:20,211 --> 00:36:24,376
It's my language for a
combination of disorders.
637
00:36:24,416 --> 00:36:27,511
So it does not exist in
standard reference works?
638
00:36:27,552 --> 00:36:29,680
Yes, that's right.
639
00:36:29,721 --> 00:36:32,748
Now you testified that you
interviewed Jesse twice.
640
00:36:32,791 --> 00:36:35,625
Did he mention hearing
voices in the first interview?
641
00:36:35,660 --> 00:36:37,458
No, he was afraid to.
642
00:36:37,495 --> 00:36:40,932
So he never mentioned
voices until you brought it up?
643
00:36:40,965 --> 00:36:42,729
- Yes.
- Thank you.
644
00:36:42,767 --> 00:36:45,100
- But...
- Thank you, Doctor.
645
00:36:46,304 --> 00:36:48,398
Stone: I think they're
playing with the system.
646
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,068
Lying? All of 'em?
647
00:36:51,376 --> 00:36:53,538
You think the
shrink coached 'em?
648
00:36:53,578 --> 00:36:55,672
Maybe.
649
00:36:55,714 --> 00:36:57,945
Gaffney?
650
00:36:57,982 --> 00:36:59,712
You don't think a
lawyer would do it.
651
00:36:59,751 --> 00:37:03,017
Olivet doesn't think a shrink would
do it. We're back where we started.
652
00:37:03,054 --> 00:37:06,024
He goes to a hospital, he
says suddenly that he's cured,
653
00:37:06,057 --> 00:37:08,959
he doesn't hear voices anymore,
and he's out on the street again
654
00:37:08,993 --> 00:37:11,827
faster than Lucy Neven can
change her phone number.
655
00:37:14,466 --> 00:37:16,560
I finished Gaffney's cases...
656
00:37:16,601 --> 00:37:19,230
All the way back to '79.
657
00:37:19,270 --> 00:37:23,173
13 insanity defenses,
seven acquittals.
658
00:37:23,208 --> 00:37:26,645
Three of them, defendants were
delusional after they started trial.
659
00:37:26,678 --> 00:37:29,648
- Right.
- It's not a clear pattern.
660
00:37:29,681 --> 00:37:31,843
I grant you it's questionable.
661
00:37:31,883 --> 00:37:34,512
Call Mr. Unger.
Say, if he agrees,
662
00:37:34,552 --> 00:37:36,453
we'd like to meet
with him alone.
663
00:37:39,157 --> 00:37:41,183
That's absurd.
664
00:37:41,226 --> 00:37:44,287
You think I would
lie under oath?
665
00:37:44,329 --> 00:37:47,094
As a parent, yes,
I think you would.
666
00:37:47,132 --> 00:37:49,431
You want my son in jail.
667
00:37:49,467 --> 00:37:51,698
Do you want me in jail, too?
668
00:37:52,904 --> 00:37:54,770
Do you have children, Mr. Stone?
669
00:37:54,806 --> 00:37:57,901
Are they healthy, happy?
670
00:37:57,942 --> 00:38:00,844
We all want our
children to be happy.
671
00:38:02,113 --> 00:38:05,015
If not so, at least protected.
672
00:38:05,049 --> 00:38:07,951
My son is sick.
673
00:38:07,986 --> 00:38:10,546
There is no dispute.
674
00:38:12,690 --> 00:38:14,488
Good night.
675
00:38:21,766 --> 00:38:24,235
He had no right to drag
Bill Unger down here.
676
00:38:24,269 --> 00:38:26,397
Mr. Unger was invited.
677
00:38:26,437 --> 00:38:29,566
You wanted him to
implicate me in perjury.
678
00:38:29,607 --> 00:38:32,941
Three cases, your clients
never heard voices until trial.
679
00:38:32,977 --> 00:38:35,037
Mandel was your
shrink on two of 'em.
680
00:38:35,079 --> 00:38:38,846
If I want to discuss Jesse's
symptoms with his father, that's my job.
681
00:38:38,883 --> 00:38:40,647
Jack, you're
overplaying your hand.
682
00:38:40,685 --> 00:38:42,381
There's an appearance
of impropriety.
683
00:38:42,420 --> 00:38:44,980
File a complaint with the
disciplinary committee.
684
00:38:47,025 --> 00:38:48,823
The ghost of John Hinkley...
685
00:38:48,860 --> 00:38:50,829
That the problem?
686
00:38:50,862 --> 00:38:54,196
Shoots the President of the
Untied States and gets off?
687
00:38:55,466 --> 00:38:57,435
You're desperate, aren't you?
688
00:38:57,468 --> 00:38:59,664
You want out of this?
689
00:38:59,704 --> 00:39:01,730
I'll plead it.
690
00:39:01,773 --> 00:39:03,435
Assault one.
691
00:39:04,976 --> 00:39:08,310
Gentleman, think about it.
692
00:39:13,585 --> 00:39:16,282
I don't know, Adam.
Jesse Unger could walk.
693
00:39:16,321 --> 00:39:18,813
Gaffney's bluffing with assault.
694
00:39:18,857 --> 00:39:22,089
He'll take manslaughter
one, attempt.
695
00:39:25,964 --> 00:39:28,195
I should talk with Lucy Neven.
696
00:39:30,001 --> 00:39:33,563
What does it mean? How long?
697
00:39:33,605 --> 00:39:37,042
A minimum of five
years, a maximum of 15.
698
00:39:39,611 --> 00:39:41,876
What do you think?
699
00:39:43,014 --> 00:39:45,449
It's your life, but honestly,
700
00:39:45,483 --> 00:39:48,419
I don't know
what that jury'll do.
701
00:39:50,955 --> 00:39:55,723
Is there any way we
can make sure it's 15?
702
00:39:57,061 --> 00:40:01,055
The parole board?
We can recommend.
703
00:40:02,333 --> 00:40:04,234
We have no control over them.
704
00:40:04,269 --> 00:40:06,795
And they're just as
unpredictable as juries.
705
00:40:08,206 --> 00:40:10,437
Why me?
706
00:40:10,475 --> 00:40:12,706
I can't give him anything.
707
00:40:16,648 --> 00:40:20,608
I'll take my chances
with the jury,
708
00:40:20,652 --> 00:40:23,087
if it's all right with you.
709
00:40:25,256 --> 00:40:27,452
Lucy, the jury...
710
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,496
it may not give
you what you want.
711
00:40:32,530 --> 00:40:37,230
What I want is what I had.
712
00:40:41,906 --> 00:40:45,809
How often do you
hear this voice, Jesse?
713
00:40:45,843 --> 00:40:49,610
Jesse: She talks to
me when I get confused.
714
00:40:49,647 --> 00:40:52,617
It's a woman's voice? Mm-hmm.
715
00:40:52,650 --> 00:40:55,449
Does the voice have a name?
716
00:40:55,486 --> 00:40:58,854
No, she's... she's just there.
717
00:40:58,890 --> 00:41:00,449
What does she tell you?
718
00:41:00,491 --> 00:41:04,189
Can't talk about that.
719
00:41:04,228 --> 00:41:06,356
Gaffney: Jesse...
720
00:41:06,397 --> 00:41:11,495
did this voice tell you
to hurt Lucy Neven?
721
00:41:14,005 --> 00:41:18,375
She told me that if
Lucy wouldn't love me,
722
00:41:18,409 --> 00:41:20,935
that I had to kill her.
723
00:41:24,215 --> 00:41:26,741
Is this your handwriting?
724
00:41:26,784 --> 00:41:29,049
Mm-hmm.
725
00:41:29,087 --> 00:41:31,716
Did you write this to
Lucy and send it to her?
726
00:41:31,756 --> 00:41:33,725
Yes, I did.
727
00:41:33,758 --> 00:41:36,819
I'd like you to
read from the top,
728
00:41:36,861 --> 00:41:38,921
out loud to the court.
729
00:41:41,265 --> 00:41:44,326
"Dear Lucy, I know
you understand,
730
00:41:44,369 --> 00:41:47,601
I never meant to hurt you.
I wanted to protect you."
731
00:41:47,638 --> 00:41:51,769
Louder, son, so
everyone can hear.
732
00:41:54,379 --> 00:41:57,781
"I know you understand I
never meant to hurt you.
733
00:41:57,815 --> 00:42:00,182
I wanted to protect you.
734
00:42:00,218 --> 00:42:02,778
I know that you care about me.
735
00:42:02,820 --> 00:42:05,085
I know we could be together.
736
00:42:05,123 --> 00:42:07,319
I would do anything for you.
737
00:42:07,358 --> 00:42:10,385
I didn't want to hit you.
738
00:42:10,428 --> 00:42:12,727
I love you.
739
00:42:12,764 --> 00:42:15,598
See, inside we're the same.
740
00:42:15,633 --> 00:42:17,829
We're the same people."
741
00:42:20,171 --> 00:42:22,037
Gaffney: Thank you, Jesse.
742
00:42:25,643 --> 00:42:27,669
Mr. Unger, how old were you
743
00:42:27,712 --> 00:42:30,876
when you first heard
this woman's voice?
744
00:42:30,915 --> 00:42:34,010
I don't remember.
She's always with me.
745
00:42:35,219 --> 00:42:37,381
And aside from Lucy Neven,
746
00:42:37,422 --> 00:42:40,256
did the voice ask you
to hurt other people?
747
00:42:40,291 --> 00:42:42,590
I don't remember.
748
00:42:43,795 --> 00:42:45,593
If you had the opportunity,
749
00:42:45,630 --> 00:42:48,532
would you still want to
talk with Lucy Neven?
750
00:42:48,566 --> 00:42:49,864
Uh-huh.
751
00:42:49,901 --> 00:42:51,733
Would you continue
to write to her?
752
00:42:51,769 --> 00:42:53,829
Yes, I'd have to.
753
00:42:53,871 --> 00:42:58,206
And if you had the opportunity, would
you want to pursue a relationship with her?
754
00:42:59,410 --> 00:43:02,209
I don't know. Maybe.
755
00:43:04,082 --> 00:43:05,812
Nothing's changed.
756
00:43:05,850 --> 00:43:08,445
Stone: Nothing's changed?
757
00:43:08,486 --> 00:43:11,650
No. Nothing.
758
00:43:15,626 --> 00:43:18,152
So what are you to decide?
759
00:43:18,196 --> 00:43:22,224
In our society, we make
exceptions for mental illness.
760
00:43:22,266 --> 00:43:25,031
But should that
exception be made
761
00:43:25,069 --> 00:43:28,369
when it endangers the life
of another human being?
762
00:43:28,406 --> 00:43:31,501
And Jesse Unger has
made it perfectly clear
763
00:43:31,542 --> 00:43:34,808
that he will come after
Lucy Neven again and again,
764
00:43:34,846 --> 00:43:36,974
until he gets what
he wants from her.
765
00:43:37,014 --> 00:43:39,279
And if he can't have her,
766
00:43:39,317 --> 00:43:41,980
he'll make sure
no one else does.
767
00:43:42,019 --> 00:43:44,716
Now, is this obsession insane?
768
00:43:47,391 --> 00:43:50,884
No one can completely know
the mind of another human being.
769
00:43:50,928 --> 00:43:54,490
We can't crawl inside his skin
and see the world as he sees it.
770
00:43:54,532 --> 00:43:56,467
However, we do know
771
00:43:56,501 --> 00:44:00,131
that Jesse Unger had
no documented history
772
00:44:00,171 --> 00:44:02,800
of delusional episodes
prior to this case.
773
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,333
In fact, he made no
mention of delusions
774
00:44:06,377 --> 00:44:09,472
or hearing voices
until after his father
775
00:44:09,514 --> 00:44:13,679
had asked for a second
psychiatric evaluation.
776
00:44:13,718 --> 00:44:16,711
Now, under the law,
we human beings
777
00:44:16,754 --> 00:44:18,586
are responsible for our actions,
778
00:44:18,623 --> 00:44:22,788
except for one thing...
Delusional mental illness.
779
00:44:24,428 --> 00:44:28,422
Jesse Unger's convenient
and last-minute reporting
780
00:44:28,466 --> 00:44:32,062
of this condition is
a responsible act.
781
00:44:32,103 --> 00:44:36,006
He knows, as
clearly as you or I,
782
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,635
that he brutally
attacked Lucy Neven.
783
00:44:38,676 --> 00:44:40,975
And he knows just as clearly
784
00:44:41,012 --> 00:44:44,744
what he has to do to
escape punishment.
785
00:44:44,782 --> 00:44:49,743
Now, he destroyed
Lucy Neven's life.
786
00:44:51,389 --> 00:44:53,858
Hold him responsible for it.
787
00:44:58,429 --> 00:45:00,523
Judge: On the sole
count of the indictment,
788
00:45:00,565 --> 00:45:03,296
attempted murder in the
second degree, how do you find?
789
00:45:03,334 --> 00:45:05,826
We find the defendant guilty.
790
00:45:05,870 --> 00:45:09,034
Judge: I thank the
jury for their service.
791
00:45:09,073 --> 00:45:10,905
Court is adjourned.
792
00:45:10,942 --> 00:45:12,638
Sentencing hearing
to be scheduled.
793
00:45:12,677 --> 00:45:15,806
- Man #1: Excuse me.
- Man #2: Let's get out of here.
794
00:45:15,846 --> 00:45:17,815
Thank you.
795
00:45:36,033 --> 00:45:39,367
Well, you may not be
happy. Lucy Neven is.
796
00:45:39,403 --> 00:45:42,339
You know as well as I do that
the law ought to be changed.
797
00:45:42,373 --> 00:45:44,239
Juries are not psychiatrists.
798
00:45:44,275 --> 00:45:46,744
He never got the
help he needed, Ben.
799
00:45:46,777 --> 00:45:49,406
And the jury followed
the only law we've got.
800
00:45:49,447 --> 00:45:52,679
We're not gods.
We're not even angels.
801
00:45:53,985 --> 00:45:56,887
He should be in a
hospital. We put him in jail.62171
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