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Narrator: In the criminal justice
system, the people are represented
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by two separate yet
equally important groups...
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The police who
investigate crime,
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and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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Look, getting permits
was hard enough.
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Construction materials
behind the property line.
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You got benefit tickets? How
many you want me to buy?
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Reni, is he offering us a bribe?
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What the hell are
you trying to do to me?
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Hey, you cops. Come here!
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We pushed through
this sub-partition wall,
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one of the guys
freaks, sees this.
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Reni: It could be an animal.
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Yeah.
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An animal that walks
on two legs and talks.
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Huh. Call it in, Reni.
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Now.
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Young... eight, nine.
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What happened? The
kid crawl in and fall?
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Massive skull fracture.
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It doesn't sound like a fall.
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Yeah, more likely
hit. And not a love tap.
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So, boy, girl, what?
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Male. My guess...
Nine years old.
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And he had a JFK for
President button on his jacket.
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Kid's been inside
that wall for 31 years.
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30 years?
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Give or take.
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Who kills a nine-year-old?
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Kid's fighting.
Something happens.
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Some pervert waving
his flag. Who knows?
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When it's dead kids,
it's usually Mom or Pop.
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Before '74 that building
was owned by a corporation...
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Out of business. No rent roll.
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You want to run with this?
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Missing persons? Worth a shot.
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Take hand lotion.
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Papercuts... no
computers before '74.
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All missing children,
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1958 to 1964.
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That's a lot of kids.
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You think that's a lot? Take
any two years from the 80's...
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That many and then some.
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What happened to them?
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I'll tell you one thing, they
didn't fly out the window
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with Tinkerbell and Peter Pan.
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Seven years old, June, 1962,
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disappeared... PS
431, Staten Island.
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Oh God.
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Time to call the psychics.
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Keep reading.
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After six hours, I don't even
know what we're looking for.
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You want a Danish or a cruller?
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You know, you look at these,
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you think people
misplace their kids
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like they lose umbrellas.
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Uh, give me a
Danish... strawberry.
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Bingo!
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Male, eight years old.
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Reported missing
October 6, 1962.
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Keegan, Thomas,
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lives across the street...
596 E. 84th Street.
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You got dental records?
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Who were the
detectives on the case?
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Sergeant Dominick McFadden,
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and Detective Joe Shelby.
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Terrific.
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Listen, an old case of yours...
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Tony DeCecco... I
saw in the papers.
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His brother got whacked.
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Missing child, 1962.
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Keegan, eight years old,
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brown hair, green eyes, 4'4",
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scar over his left eye.
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Fell on the concrete
steps when he was six.
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You sound like
you just read the file.
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You ever do a missing kid?
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Yeah, my partner,
Shelby, retired to Florida.
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Once, twice a year,
he used to call about it.
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Couldn't let it alone.
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Good detective.
Prostate cancer...
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Only 68.
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Case alive again?
We found the kid.
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Logan: Bones in the
basement of a building.
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Same block as the kid lived on.
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Yeah, we figured somebody
in the neighborhood.
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You got a gay
couple in the file?
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My notes should
have been in there.
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Two guys... 30s, 40s...
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Lived on the block.
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Connors, Conway,
something like that.
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The other guy...
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Some German name.
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Couldn't make the case?
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Uh, father was dead.
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You find the mother?
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Yeah, she was a teacher.
High school, West Side.
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Teachers now, they
take early retirement.
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20 years, move to the house
in Woodstock, never look back.
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Keegan, Beverly.
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Doris.
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Okay.
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Keegan, Doris, retired
last year, full pension.
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Address?
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718 Penrose, Fort
Lee, New Jersey.
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When Tommy
disappeared, that was hard.
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But you know what
was even harder?
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When I gave up hope.
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Every once in a while I
figure out how old he'd be.
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What would he be doing? Hmm.
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Married maybe?
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Kids of his own...
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My grandchildren.
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Do you remember
who lived at 583?
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It's been a long time.
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About that day...?
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I was getting my masters degree.
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I left class. I went
to get Tommy.
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He was in the schoolyard.
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He said he was going
to play with his friends.
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I didn't give him a kiss.
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I didn't want to embarrass him.
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I never saw him again.
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Did anybody walk
him home that day?
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Hospitals,
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all the kids' parents,
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the police, I called.
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It took me years to move.
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Well, I wanted to be there.
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He might come home.
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Mrs. Keegan...
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the two men who
lived on that block?
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The ones the police suspected?
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Did they do it?
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Do you remember their names?
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No.
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I thought I'd never forget them.
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But after a while I realized
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if you keep remembering,
you can't live.
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Yeah, yeah, thanks.
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No reverse phone
directories before '65.
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If we're going to find out
who lived in that building
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we're going to have to
knock on a lot of doors.
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Yeah, you have an address?
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Thank you.
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Okay, 1962,
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Con Ed had one
account in the building.
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Now there's a different
address, still active.
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Carl Lawler, Perry Street.
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It was our first apartment.
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- God, it was small.
- Barely room for a bed.
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The police came that night.
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We were at work. We
couldn't tell them anything.
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Who else lived in the building?
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Carl: Nice couple in the
duplex. They had a daughter.
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You knew them, hon.
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Yeah, he was in insurance.
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Messimer, Catherine Messimer.
I don't remember his name.
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What about the other
apartment on your floor?
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Uh, Dorfman and Conover.
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Not married?
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Two men... a couple.
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We wondered, but we thought it
was awful to suspect them at first.
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Have you seen them since?
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Herald House... the publisher.
That's where they worked.
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Ed Conover was an editor.
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They used to bring
us books sometimes.
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I don't know how
you'd find them now.
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They'd be, what, 70, 75?
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Logan: It's like chasing ghosts.
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30 years, people disappear.
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Dorfman, one of the two
guys, died nine years ago.
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Conover left,
publisher's got no record.
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A lot of Conovers in
the book, but not our Ed.
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- Yellow sheets?
- Cerreta: You were hopingmaybe for armed robbery?
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- Nothing.
- Find the other couple. Maybe they know.
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Messimer, no current listing.
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Our friends at the phone
company, let's go see them.
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Logan: Plaza 5.
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Butterfield 8.
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Elizabeth Taylor
and Eddie Fisher.
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Numbers still had
names in those days, huh?
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My parents were Lexington
2, my uncle was Chelsea 3.
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Here's '67 and '68.
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Thank you.
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Messimer, Thad,
still lived there in '65.
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Not in '67.
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391 Central Park West.
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Messimer's gone ages ago.
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What did the Lawlers say?
He worked in insurance?
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Great, there's only a couple
of thousand insurance agents.
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The daughter...
She could tell you.
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They gave her the
apartment. Miss Atkinson, 14A.
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Atkinson is my
ex-husband's name. I kept it.
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You grew up on East 84th Street?
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Yes.
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This little boy,
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Tommy Keegan.
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Do you remember him?
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For years after he disappeared
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I was afraid to go outside
without my parents.
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Eight years old and still
holding a grown-up's hand.
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You okay?
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Yeah, I'm fine.
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Excuse me, I need
a glass of water.
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The paramedic can
be here in a minute.
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Honestly, no.
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Just looking at the
picture I felt sick,
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thinking how Tommy died.
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Everybody assumed, I mean...
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It was logical he was murdered.
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Wasn't he?
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Why are you asking
about him now?
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We found his remains
in the basement
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of the building you grew up in.
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Oh my God.
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Can you remember
anything about that day?
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The police talked to
me after he disappeared.
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We must have played together.
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I'm sure I saw him, but...
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it's very long ago.
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Did you know the two men
who lived on the fourth floor?
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Their names were
Dorfman and Conover.
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I'm sorry.
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I think they gave
Tommy some books.
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Do you think your
parents might remember?
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They moved out of
the city to Harrison.
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They bought a house.
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In the basement?
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No wonder she fainted.
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Catherine: Maybe
we should call her.
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It was terrible.
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You realized it could
be your own child.
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Yes.
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- The couple upstairs?
- Thad: The Lawlers.
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Carl and...
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what was her name, Julia, Jane?
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The other couple.
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Oh, in those days we
didn't call them a couple.
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We wouldn't want
to speak ill of them,
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the way they were, but...
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Tell them, Thad.
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Six months later,
the younger one...
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What was his name?
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Conover, Ed.
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Thad: He worked
for a youth group.
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Church on 93rd.
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St. Lucius.
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We heard...
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he approached the boy.
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Man: The boy who
made the accusation,
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he was trouble. I felt he was...
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He had heard about
the other incidents,
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was wanting attention.
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So you think Conover
was innocent?
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In the case of the missing boy?
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He was never charged...
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My understanding of the
law, that makes him innocent.
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Reverend, why don't you try not
to judge us, save us a little trouble?
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He was a good
counselor to those kids.
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But in most people's
eyes, a lot of them,
263
00:14:19,659 --> 00:14:21,218
he was automatically guilty.
264
00:14:21,260 --> 00:14:23,161
Are you still in touch with him?
265
00:14:24,664 --> 00:14:28,624
30 years ago, suspicion
almost destroyed Conover's life.
266
00:14:28,668 --> 00:14:31,433
- Do you want to put
him through that again?
- If he's guilty, yes.
267
00:14:31,471 --> 00:14:34,600
- If he's innocent?
- As you said, he survived it once.
268
00:14:35,775 --> 00:14:38,472
Three blocks away.
Carrington Nursing Home.
269
00:14:39,612 --> 00:14:42,411
But you did know the Keegan kid?
270
00:14:42,448 --> 00:14:45,145
You think I don't know
what you're thinking?
271
00:14:45,184 --> 00:14:47,847
All gays molest kids.
272
00:14:47,887 --> 00:14:51,915
I think you will find that cops know
most child molesters are straight.
273
00:14:51,958 --> 00:14:53,756
So why don't you
just help us out here?
274
00:14:53,793 --> 00:14:55,887
I don't have to tell
you one damn thing.
275
00:14:55,928 --> 00:14:57,760
No, you don't, but we
could get a subpoena.
276
00:14:57,797 --> 00:15:00,096
And I get a lawyer.
277
00:15:00,133 --> 00:15:02,295
Let's talk about the basement.
278
00:15:02,335 --> 00:15:03,963
You want the truth?
279
00:15:04,003 --> 00:15:06,472
Tommy...
280
00:15:06,506 --> 00:15:09,874
we took him down there,
tortured him, killed him.
281
00:15:09,909 --> 00:15:11,878
Used to do one a week.
282
00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:14,608
You're a laugh
riot, Mr. Conover.
283
00:15:14,647 --> 00:15:16,639
You know what else isn't funny?
284
00:15:16,682 --> 00:15:18,913
You. Go to hell!
285
00:15:23,222 --> 00:15:26,090
70? Last time we
did one that old,
286
00:15:26,125 --> 00:15:28,458
it was a Nazi for the INS.
287
00:15:28,494 --> 00:15:30,588
I'd say this one'd be
about as easy to convict.
288
00:15:30,630 --> 00:15:32,462
You got his name
on the ace of spades?
289
00:15:32,498 --> 00:15:35,127
He had access to the basement
and he knew the Keegan kid.
290
00:15:35,168 --> 00:15:36,796
I mentioned him
to Julie Atkinson,
291
00:15:36,836 --> 00:15:39,499
she got a funny look on
her face. She fogged all up.
292
00:15:39,539 --> 00:15:42,202
So? Are you saying she
knows he killed the kid
293
00:15:42,241 --> 00:15:43,800
but she's trying to
protect him? Why?
294
00:15:43,843 --> 00:15:45,744
How did Conover react?
295
00:15:45,778 --> 00:15:47,576
Logan: He told us to go to hell.
296
00:15:47,613 --> 00:15:50,481
Well, at least he's got a
way with words. Ideas?
297
00:15:50,516 --> 00:15:52,348
Let's see what
Atkinson comes up with.
298
00:15:52,385 --> 00:15:53,717
Place him at the scene.
299
00:15:53,753 --> 00:15:56,882
Thanks.
300
00:15:56,923 --> 00:16:00,052
I don't understand. The
case must be closed by now.
301
00:16:00,092 --> 00:16:02,493
Well, there's no statute
of limitations on homicide.
302
00:16:02,528 --> 00:16:05,498
But you told me you
didn't know if it was murder.
303
00:16:05,531 --> 00:16:07,659
That's why we'd like
you to come down
304
00:16:07,700 --> 00:16:10,078
and spend a couple of hours
going over everything that happened.
305
00:16:10,102 --> 00:16:12,367
You know, a lead can
come from anywhere.
306
00:16:12,405 --> 00:16:14,965
I'm sorry.
307
00:16:15,007 --> 00:16:17,067
It's a busy time of year.
308
00:16:17,109 --> 00:16:18,975
Okay.
309
00:16:19,011 --> 00:16:21,503
Kid's been dead for 30 years.
310
00:16:24,517 --> 00:16:26,486
One more abandoned case.
311
00:16:26,519 --> 00:16:29,489
Nobody really cares
now except the mother.
312
00:16:31,591 --> 00:16:33,526
Thanks anyway.
313
00:16:42,034 --> 00:16:44,970
Me? I can't contact
her. It's improper.
314
00:16:45,004 --> 00:16:46,802
We pushed her. It didn't work.
315
00:16:46,839 --> 00:16:48,535
It's not only improper,
it's ineffective.
316
00:16:48,574 --> 00:16:50,008
The woman has to trust me.
317
00:16:50,042 --> 00:16:52,409
I'll tell you something,
if we don't get Conover,
318
00:16:52,445 --> 00:16:54,846
we can bury those bones
in the case along with it.
319
00:16:54,881 --> 00:16:56,850
Logan, woman asking for you.
320
00:17:01,687 --> 00:17:03,417
Hey.
321
00:17:06,058 --> 00:17:07,959
You said I could help.
322
00:17:07,994 --> 00:17:09,963
Yeah, listen,
323
00:17:09,996 --> 00:17:11,965
thanks for coming by.
324
00:17:11,998 --> 00:17:14,331
There's someone
I'd like you to meet.
325
00:17:18,738 --> 00:17:21,640
Miss Atkinson,
this is Dr. Olivet.
326
00:17:21,674 --> 00:17:24,872
She's a police
department psychiatrist.
327
00:17:24,911 --> 00:17:26,971
Hi.
328
00:17:28,814 --> 00:17:30,840
Hi.
329
00:17:31,284 --> 00:17:34,721
For the first hour she didn't
remember even seeing the boy.
330
00:17:34,754 --> 00:17:37,383
- Logan: What about Conover?
- Nothing.
331
00:17:37,423 --> 00:17:39,688
She has this recurrent image...
332
00:17:39,725 --> 00:17:41,523
Red and blue.
333
00:17:41,561 --> 00:17:43,359
She came back to it twice
334
00:17:43,396 --> 00:17:45,024
but she doesn't
know what it means.
335
00:17:45,064 --> 00:17:47,090
What was the Keegan kid wearing?
336
00:17:48,234 --> 00:17:51,261
Green shirt, khakis,
black sneakers.
337
00:17:52,738 --> 00:17:54,297
How screwed up is she?
338
00:17:54,340 --> 00:17:56,172
I'd say severely.
339
00:17:56,208 --> 00:17:58,837
And she says she
never saw a shrink?
340
00:17:58,878 --> 00:18:01,973
She also says she's
basically a happy person.
341
00:18:02,014 --> 00:18:04,108
What about hypnosis?
342
00:18:04,150 --> 00:18:07,348
Unreliable and almost
impossible to get admitted in court.
343
00:18:07,386 --> 00:18:11,084
Well, not if she doesn't
implicate herself.
344
00:18:11,123 --> 00:18:14,355
If she gives us a lead and we
corroborate it, we don't need her in court.
345
00:18:14,393 --> 00:18:16,487
Yeah, but we put her under,
346
00:18:16,529 --> 00:18:18,498
and then we end up needing her,
347
00:18:18,531 --> 00:18:20,659
we'll never get
her on the stand.
348
00:18:20,700 --> 00:18:22,999
- Is she coming back?
- We opened a vein.
349
00:18:23,035 --> 00:18:25,231
She might want to close it.
350
00:18:25,271 --> 00:18:27,740
Maybe, maybe, maybe.
351
00:18:27,773 --> 00:18:31,039
My feeling... she wants to know.
352
00:18:31,077 --> 00:18:33,945
Any idea what this
red and blue is?
353
00:18:33,980 --> 00:18:35,881
Your guess is as good as mine.
354
00:18:39,151 --> 00:18:42,053
Red and blue? You're joking.
355
00:18:42,088 --> 00:18:44,887
In a murder investigation
I don't go for laughs.
356
00:18:44,924 --> 00:18:46,825
Well, it could be anything.
357
00:18:46,859 --> 00:18:49,988
Clothes, toys,
the American flag.
358
00:18:50,029 --> 00:18:51,930
The day the boy was missing,
359
00:18:51,964 --> 00:18:54,832
do you remember if anything...
360
00:18:54,867 --> 00:18:56,927
unusual happened to Julie?
361
00:18:56,969 --> 00:18:58,938
An ordinary night.
362
00:18:58,971 --> 00:19:00,701
I had a PTA meeting.
363
00:19:00,740 --> 00:19:03,005
I came home from
work, I put Julie to bed.
364
00:19:03,042 --> 00:19:04,670
She had a cold.
365
00:19:04,710 --> 00:19:07,612
If you could persuade
her to talk to us again...
366
00:19:07,647 --> 00:19:10,014
We...
367
00:19:10,049 --> 00:19:12,518
I don't know if we
could convince her.
368
00:19:12,551 --> 00:19:16,010
Our psychiatrist feels that
Julie may know something,
369
00:19:16,055 --> 00:19:17,455
though not consciously.
370
00:19:17,490 --> 00:19:20,221
We're not telling
Julie to do something
371
00:19:20,259 --> 00:19:22,728
she doesn't want to do.
372
00:19:22,762 --> 00:19:25,994
Dad says I had a
cold, I'm sure he's right.
373
00:19:26,032 --> 00:19:28,501
Beautiful plants, orchids.
374
00:19:28,534 --> 00:19:30,628
But they need a lot of care.
375
00:19:30,670 --> 00:19:33,071
Maybe you could
give us another hour?
376
00:19:33,105 --> 00:19:37,941
Detective, if you could say an
eight-year-old has a boyfriend,
377
00:19:37,977 --> 00:19:39,673
mine was Tommy.
But I can't help you.
378
00:19:39,712 --> 00:19:43,046
Julie, the red and the
blue you mentioned.
379
00:19:43,082 --> 00:19:46,575
You asked me to meet
with Dr. Olivet, I did.
380
00:19:46,619 --> 00:19:49,214
Mrs. Atkinson,
a little boy died.
381
00:19:49,255 --> 00:19:50,814
30 years ago.
382
00:19:50,856 --> 00:19:52,449
That's right.
383
00:19:52,491 --> 00:19:54,426
But what if it had
been yesterday?
384
00:19:54,460 --> 00:19:57,988
Will you do us a favor?
Will you try again?
385
00:19:58,030 --> 00:20:00,261
Just one more shot.
386
00:20:03,135 --> 00:20:06,037
Olivet: Did you come here with
Tommy the day he disappeared?
387
00:20:06,072 --> 00:20:09,372
On the way home from school.
388
00:20:09,408 --> 00:20:11,343
And then you started walking?
389
00:20:12,545 --> 00:20:14,173
I hid the candy...
390
00:20:14,213 --> 00:20:18,150
because Daddy didn't like
me to eat them before dinner.
391
00:20:18,184 --> 00:20:20,653
And Tommy had a baseball.
392
00:20:20,686 --> 00:20:22,518
No, a football.
393
00:20:22,555 --> 00:20:25,218
And he kept throwing it to Ed.
394
00:20:25,257 --> 00:20:27,192
Conover was with you?
395
00:20:27,226 --> 00:20:29,855
No. He was just
sitting on the stoop
396
00:20:29,895 --> 00:20:32,763
when we got to the
house. I hated that.
397
00:20:32,798 --> 00:20:35,597
What did you hate?
398
00:20:35,634 --> 00:20:37,569
When he'd sit on the stoop.
399
00:20:37,603 --> 00:20:39,504
I'd always have
to walk around him.
400
00:20:39,538 --> 00:20:41,803
Did he say anything?
401
00:20:41,841 --> 00:20:44,538
No, he just...
402
00:20:44,577 --> 00:20:46,569
I don't know.
403
00:20:46,612 --> 00:20:48,444
It made me feel creepy
404
00:20:48,481 --> 00:20:50,643
and uncomfortable.
405
00:20:50,683 --> 00:20:52,914
And then what happened?
406
00:20:52,952 --> 00:20:54,511
We went into the house.
407
00:20:59,492 --> 00:21:03,122
My room was right over here.
408
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,834
My toy chest was
always by the door.
409
00:21:10,870 --> 00:21:14,534
Do you remember
having dinner that night?
410
00:21:16,008 --> 00:21:18,603
My mom probably left something.
411
00:21:18,644 --> 00:21:20,237
She always did when
she wasn't home.
412
00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:22,748
And then you got sick
413
00:21:22,782 --> 00:21:24,648
and you went to bed?
414
00:21:24,683 --> 00:21:28,984
My pajamas were always
hanging on the back of the door.
415
00:21:30,389 --> 00:21:33,382
I had to go to the bathroom.
416
00:21:33,425 --> 00:21:37,021
I wanted to brush my teeth.
417
00:21:38,264 --> 00:21:40,130
Yeah, the bathroom...
418
00:21:40,166 --> 00:21:42,726
was right down here.
419
00:21:52,478 --> 00:21:54,413
Oh...
420
00:21:54,446 --> 00:21:56,847
no.
421
00:21:56,882 --> 00:21:59,215
Oh my God.
422
00:21:59,251 --> 00:22:01,413
What is it, Julie?
423
00:22:01,453 --> 00:22:04,252
Oh, oh!
424
00:22:04,290 --> 00:22:06,782
The blue and the red.
425
00:22:06,826 --> 00:22:09,125
What's blue and red?
426
00:22:09,161 --> 00:22:11,221
The sweater.
427
00:22:11,263 --> 00:22:13,198
What sweater?
428
00:22:13,232 --> 00:22:16,031
Daddy's sweater.
429
00:22:16,068 --> 00:22:19,596
He's washing it
out here in the tub
430
00:22:19,638 --> 00:22:23,370
and it's all covered
431
00:22:23,409 --> 00:22:25,537
with blood.
432
00:22:33,085 --> 00:22:36,681
A daughter, some bones
in a basement, and that's it?
433
00:22:36,722 --> 00:22:38,452
I'll bet anything Dad's a kinko.
434
00:22:38,490 --> 00:22:40,391
And no record.
435
00:22:40,426 --> 00:22:42,418
The shrink believes
the daughter.
436
00:22:42,461 --> 00:22:45,488
Indict him, maybe he wets
his pants and confesses.
437
00:22:45,531 --> 00:22:48,729
And maybe he hits the city
with a false arrest charge,
438
00:22:48,767 --> 00:22:51,100
and the Attorney General
has to settle with him.
439
00:22:51,136 --> 00:22:53,696
I'm Messimer. I got
a 65-year-old wife,
440
00:22:53,739 --> 00:22:55,731
a daughter who's
not talking to me,
441
00:22:55,774 --> 00:22:58,266
and I'm possibly facing 25
years-to-life. What do I do?
442
00:22:58,310 --> 00:23:02,907
You go to Costa Rica and you drink
piƱa coladas with 20-year-old bimbos.
443
00:23:02,948 --> 00:23:05,747
Pick him up. Take his passport.
444
00:23:09,989 --> 00:23:11,821
I want to talk with Olivet.
445
00:23:14,126 --> 00:23:16,789
I'm not saying she's a
picture of mental health.
446
00:23:16,829 --> 00:23:18,764
She's not committable?
447
00:23:18,797 --> 00:23:20,857
From what I can tell,
448
00:23:20,900 --> 00:23:24,632
this father jerked this
woman around like a yo-yo,
449
00:23:24,670 --> 00:23:27,606
bartered affection,
controlled her like a robot.
450
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,472
But she's functional.
451
00:23:30,643 --> 00:23:32,339
Building a case on her,
452
00:23:32,378 --> 00:23:34,847
it's a thin tightrope, no net.
453
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,281
I've been wrong...
not this time.
454
00:23:38,984 --> 00:23:41,647
- You want to take a pass on this?
- Not if he did it.
455
00:23:41,687 --> 00:23:43,485
She's telling the truth.
456
00:23:43,522 --> 00:23:46,356
And as a witness?
457
00:23:46,392 --> 00:23:48,361
The jury might not believe her.
458
00:23:48,394 --> 00:23:50,226
What are we talking about?
459
00:23:50,262 --> 00:23:52,128
She'll fall apart on the stand?
460
00:23:52,164 --> 00:23:54,895
Anything's possible.
461
00:23:54,934 --> 00:23:57,369
Stone: We're just trying
to make you understand
462
00:23:57,403 --> 00:23:58,962
that being a witness
won't be easy.
463
00:23:59,004 --> 00:24:01,235
Being me isn't easy,
witness or otherwise.
464
00:24:01,273 --> 00:24:02,901
Please, Mrs. Atkinson,
465
00:24:02,942 --> 00:24:04,934
pretend you're the jury.
466
00:24:04,977 --> 00:24:07,970
What do you see? A
child attacking her parents.
467
00:24:11,550 --> 00:24:14,543
Robinette: How long have
you been estranged from them?
468
00:24:14,586 --> 00:24:16,578
When I was 28,
469
00:24:16,622 --> 00:24:18,488
I moved to Chicago.
470
00:24:18,524 --> 00:24:20,516
I got married, I got divorced.
471
00:24:20,559 --> 00:24:22,755
I came home, my father
said, "I told you so."
472
00:24:22,795 --> 00:24:24,889
Then I moved to San Francisco.
473
00:24:24,930 --> 00:24:27,923
I got married, I got
divorced, and I came home.
474
00:24:27,967 --> 00:24:30,937
My father said, "When are you
going to learn to listen to me?"
475
00:24:30,970 --> 00:24:32,962
Two years ago,
476
00:24:33,005 --> 00:24:35,236
the last time I came home,
477
00:24:35,274 --> 00:24:37,402
I stopped talking to my father.
478
00:24:37,443 --> 00:24:39,639
I didn't know why then.
479
00:24:39,678 --> 00:24:42,876
Now I'm beginning
to understand it all.
480
00:24:42,915 --> 00:24:45,282
My concern is not only for you.
481
00:24:45,317 --> 00:24:48,082
We prosecute your
father, it falls apart,
482
00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:49,918
we look irresponsible.
483
00:24:49,955 --> 00:24:52,151
I told you I'll testify.
484
00:24:52,191 --> 00:24:55,593
You're going to be portrayed
in the media and the courtroom
485
00:24:55,627 --> 00:24:58,654
as an unhappy, overwrought,
vindictive daughter.
486
00:24:58,697 --> 00:25:01,895
Maybe I'm not the
happiest person in the world.
487
00:25:01,934 --> 00:25:04,267
Maybe I won't be.
488
00:25:06,205 --> 00:25:09,039
But I'll survive.
489
00:25:17,616 --> 00:25:20,108
She imagined this, Mr. Stone.
490
00:25:20,152 --> 00:25:22,314
We have an obligation
to investigate.
491
00:25:22,354 --> 00:25:24,482
At the expense of
my client's reputation?
492
00:25:24,523 --> 00:25:26,719
This man has led
an exemplary life.
493
00:25:26,759 --> 00:25:29,490
Or he hasn't, and
nobody caught him.
494
00:25:31,130 --> 00:25:34,123
You can't believe I killed
an eight-year-old child.
495
00:25:34,166 --> 00:25:36,101
We do love our daughter,
496
00:25:36,135 --> 00:25:38,934
but Julie's had difficulties.
497
00:25:38,971 --> 00:25:40,963
Lawyer: This gets out of hand,
498
00:25:41,006 --> 00:25:43,305
you're risking a suit for
malicious prosecution.
499
00:25:43,342 --> 00:25:45,743
If we feel we have a case,
we have to take the risk.
500
00:25:45,778 --> 00:25:47,940
What about the risk to Julie?
501
00:25:47,980 --> 00:25:49,744
What's happening here
502
00:25:49,782 --> 00:25:51,410
is an abuse of the system,
503
00:25:51,450 --> 00:25:53,180
an abuse of your office,
504
00:25:53,218 --> 00:25:55,551
and an abuse of my daughter.
505
00:25:55,587 --> 00:25:58,318
And an abuse of a
child, Tommy Keegan.
506
00:25:58,357 --> 00:26:00,758
Thad.
507
00:26:00,793 --> 00:26:03,262
If I read about
this in the papers,
508
00:26:03,295 --> 00:26:04,854
if you try to smear me...
509
00:26:06,198 --> 00:26:07,996
Catherine.
510
00:26:15,374 --> 00:26:17,400
Try to keep it
out of the papers.
511
00:26:17,443 --> 00:26:20,345
A civil suit could be very
messy in an election year.
512
00:26:23,982 --> 00:26:25,746
What have you got?
513
00:26:25,784 --> 00:26:28,344
Genuine Life and Casualty.
514
00:26:28,387 --> 00:26:30,982
He got fired, they
won't discuss it.
515
00:26:31,023 --> 00:26:34,482
I'll have Adam talk with them.
516
00:26:34,526 --> 00:26:36,495
Are you doubting
he killed the kid?
517
00:26:38,697 --> 00:26:41,257
If I did, I'm
doubting a lot less.
518
00:26:43,402 --> 00:26:45,997
Robinette: Vice
president back then?
519
00:26:46,038 --> 00:26:48,439
You must have been pretty young.
520
00:26:48,474 --> 00:26:51,239
How well did you know Messimer?
521
00:26:51,276 --> 00:26:53,677
You understand
this is off the record?
522
00:26:53,712 --> 00:26:56,341
Subpoena me, I won't
repeat it under oath.
523
00:26:56,381 --> 00:26:57,940
I don't want to be sued.
524
00:26:57,983 --> 00:26:59,952
Messimer.
525
00:27:00,953 --> 00:27:02,785
Not a water cooler man.
526
00:27:02,821 --> 00:27:04,585
Kept to himself.
527
00:27:04,623 --> 00:27:06,489
But you fired him personally?
528
00:27:08,093 --> 00:27:11,120
A couple of meetings, major
clients, you couldn't see it,
529
00:27:11,163 --> 00:27:14,497
but let's just say the
mints didn't cover the smell.
530
00:27:14,533 --> 00:27:16,593
He kept getting jobs.
531
00:27:16,635 --> 00:27:19,104
Some men drown in booze,
532
00:27:19,138 --> 00:27:21,004
some swim in it.
533
00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:23,167
Who knew him well?
534
00:27:23,208 --> 00:27:26,110
He had a buddy... Gil Lindon.
535
00:27:26,145 --> 00:27:28,512
Fired him, too.
536
00:27:28,547 --> 00:27:31,176
They never said fired.
537
00:27:31,216 --> 00:27:33,151
Not to your face, no.
538
00:27:33,185 --> 00:27:35,586
They called it
"mutual termination."
539
00:27:35,621 --> 00:27:37,817
Tell me,
540
00:27:37,856 --> 00:27:39,688
is Messimer in trouble, huh?
541
00:27:39,725 --> 00:27:42,695
Was his a mutual
termination, too?
542
00:27:42,728 --> 00:27:46,187
That man could sell fire
insurance to Eskimos,
543
00:27:46,231 --> 00:27:48,200
even putting away
three or four at lunch.
544
00:27:48,233 --> 00:27:50,361
He have any other problems?
545
00:27:50,402 --> 00:27:51,995
What do they say?
546
00:27:52,037 --> 00:27:54,006
Too late we grow smart.
547
00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:56,270
We drank.
548
00:27:56,308 --> 00:28:00,040
I took the 12 steps out
of the bar. It's history.
549
00:28:00,078 --> 00:28:02,070
Grow smart now, Mr. Lindon.
550
00:28:04,816 --> 00:28:06,751
Tell me something,
551
00:28:06,785 --> 00:28:10,153
what did Messimer do? Kids?
552
00:28:13,258 --> 00:28:16,660
You know, right before we
were "mutually terminated,"
553
00:28:16,695 --> 00:28:19,164
we were coming
back from a client.
554
00:28:19,198 --> 00:28:21,224
Train station, Stanford.
555
00:28:21,266 --> 00:28:24,031
Thad goes into the
can, doesn't come back.
556
00:28:24,069 --> 00:28:26,800
I go in after him,
there's a cop in there.
557
00:28:26,838 --> 00:28:30,070
Some kid, 14, 15,
558
00:28:30,108 --> 00:28:34,341
says Messimer made a pass.
559
00:28:35,380 --> 00:28:38,646
That gives you motive. He
molested Tommy, then killed him.
560
00:28:38,684 --> 00:28:40,676
The Connecticut
records still there?
561
00:28:40,719 --> 00:28:42,711
Sealed. Get it unsealed.
562
00:28:42,754 --> 00:28:44,723
Charges were dropped.
563
00:28:44,756 --> 00:28:46,281
I sent up a "show cause" order.
564
00:28:46,325 --> 00:28:48,692
Boy's name, Joseph Kelly.
565
00:28:48,727 --> 00:28:50,923
He's an administrator
at Mercy Hospital.
566
00:28:50,963 --> 00:28:53,228
Go see him.
567
00:28:53,265 --> 00:28:55,700
It wasn't just him,
568
00:28:55,734 --> 00:28:57,726
I must have given him the eye.
569
00:28:57,769 --> 00:28:59,670
I probably wanted
him to come onto me.
570
00:28:59,705 --> 00:29:01,936
The case never went to trail.
571
00:29:01,974 --> 00:29:04,569
My parents suspected I was gay.
572
00:29:04,610 --> 00:29:06,943
It comes out I'm hanging
around the station...
573
00:29:06,979 --> 00:29:08,572
The neighbors
hear about it, well...
574
00:29:08,614 --> 00:29:11,345
So they said you
wouldn't testify?
575
00:29:11,383 --> 00:29:13,545
When I was in my
20s, I went to a shrink.
576
00:29:13,585 --> 00:29:17,113
He said guys like
that, it's not about sex.
577
00:29:17,155 --> 00:29:19,090
It's about power.
578
00:29:19,124 --> 00:29:21,958
Lots of them don't even
care if it's boys or girls,
579
00:29:21,994 --> 00:29:24,122
just somebody
they could control.
580
00:29:24,162 --> 00:29:26,996
Mr. Kelly,
581
00:29:27,032 --> 00:29:28,967
do you remember exactly
what Messimer did?
582
00:29:29,001 --> 00:29:31,334
Offered me 20 bucks.
583
00:29:31,370 --> 00:29:33,066
I almost said yes.
584
00:29:33,105 --> 00:29:36,371
Something in his eyes,
585
00:29:36,408 --> 00:29:38,536
even a kid can tell.
586
00:29:38,577 --> 00:29:40,671
When I turned him down
587
00:29:40,712 --> 00:29:42,578
he got real upset.
588
00:29:42,614 --> 00:29:45,516
Grabbed my arm, said 50 bucks.
589
00:29:45,550 --> 00:29:49,248
The more I said no,
the crazier he looked.
590
00:29:49,288 --> 00:29:51,917
Yes, well, that's
all very interesting,
591
00:29:51,957 --> 00:29:53,653
and useless at trial.
592
00:29:53,692 --> 00:29:55,593
Messimer wasn't
convicted of anything.
593
00:29:55,627 --> 00:29:58,961
- I'll bring it in somehow.
- What, pattern crime?
594
00:29:58,997 --> 00:30:00,727
It's not even close.
595
00:30:00,766 --> 00:30:02,428
Even if he had been convicted,
596
00:30:02,467 --> 00:30:04,402
this isn't Palm Beach.
597
00:30:04,436 --> 00:30:06,337
You can't use previous history.
598
00:30:06,371 --> 00:30:08,567
And without it, you
can't prove motive.
599
00:30:08,607 --> 00:30:10,872
They've got to open
the character issue,
600
00:30:10,909 --> 00:30:12,377
then we can bring in Kelly.
601
00:30:12,411 --> 00:30:15,404
Messimer's reputation as
a totally respectable citizen
602
00:30:15,447 --> 00:30:17,177
is their only card.
603
00:30:17,215 --> 00:30:19,684
What's the operating
principle here?
604
00:30:19,718 --> 00:30:23,485
Doug Greer is a fool?
Messimer is stupid?
605
00:30:23,522 --> 00:30:25,252
Guaranteed he
told Doug about this.
606
00:30:25,290 --> 00:30:27,657
They're not going to bring
in any character witnesses?
607
00:30:27,693 --> 00:30:29,423
Schiff: He won't defend himself.
608
00:30:29,461 --> 00:30:31,862
20-to-one he never
tries to make a case.
609
00:30:33,298 --> 00:30:36,427
How many times he did
it we'll never know about.
610
00:30:36,468 --> 00:30:39,461
Maybe you molest
once and never again,
611
00:30:39,504 --> 00:30:42,338
but twice, it's a compulsion.
We've got to nail him.
612
00:30:44,509 --> 00:30:47,069
Let me have that, will you?
613
00:30:47,112 --> 00:30:50,014
Thanks. Yeah?
614
00:30:50,048 --> 00:30:53,143
Hmmm.
615
00:30:53,185 --> 00:30:56,246
Yes.
616
00:30:56,288 --> 00:30:58,348
It's Olivet.
617
00:30:58,390 --> 00:31:01,451
Mother got to Julie. She
doesn't want to testify.
618
00:31:04,596 --> 00:31:06,121
Oh, man.
619
00:31:09,835 --> 00:31:12,168
Liz, can you bring her in?
620
00:31:14,906 --> 00:31:16,898
Okay, two hours.
621
00:31:16,942 --> 00:31:19,673
I know what I told
you. I made a mistake.
622
00:31:21,113 --> 00:31:23,378
And what did your mother say?
623
00:31:23,415 --> 00:31:26,010
My memories must be mixed up.
624
00:31:26,051 --> 00:31:30,682
She says my father loves me and
can't believe I'm doing this to him.
625
00:31:38,163 --> 00:31:40,758
Stone: You two may
remember each other.
626
00:31:44,369 --> 00:31:46,304
Mrs. Keegan.
627
00:31:46,338 --> 00:31:49,103
You look wonderful, Julie.
628
00:31:52,577 --> 00:31:54,068
Mrs. Keegan, I...
629
00:31:54,112 --> 00:31:56,240
I need your help.
630
00:31:56,281 --> 00:31:58,716
I can't.
631
00:31:58,750 --> 00:32:00,742
He killed Tommy.
632
00:32:00,786 --> 00:32:03,153
Olivet: Julie, your father
can't hurt you anymore.
633
00:32:03,188 --> 00:32:06,852
The only power he has over
you is the power you give him.
634
00:32:06,892 --> 00:32:09,054
Please.
635
00:32:17,169 --> 00:32:19,434
Docket number 45721,
636
00:32:19,471 --> 00:32:21,372
the People versus
Thaddeus Messimer.
637
00:32:21,406 --> 00:32:23,398
The charge is murder
in the second degree.
638
00:32:23,442 --> 00:32:26,207
Is the defendant
ready to enter a plea?
639
00:32:26,244 --> 00:32:28,213
Not guilty.
640
00:32:28,246 --> 00:32:29,942
Judge: Mr. Robinette?
641
00:32:29,981 --> 00:32:33,179
Your Honor, the defendant's
economic situation
642
00:32:33,218 --> 00:32:35,187
allows for the real
possibility of flight.
643
00:32:35,220 --> 00:32:38,019
The People request $500,000 bail
644
00:32:38,056 --> 00:32:40,958
and that the defendant
surrender his passport.
645
00:32:40,992 --> 00:32:43,587
Your Honor, the prosecutor's
information is so...
646
00:32:43,628 --> 00:32:45,688
shall we say perfunctory,
647
00:32:45,730 --> 00:32:47,426
the People's request
seems extreme.
648
00:32:47,466 --> 00:32:52,234
Mr. Greer, your client will
surrender his passport to the clerk.
649
00:32:52,270 --> 00:32:55,001
Your Honor, we have no
objection. But in that case, bail...
650
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,703
$300,000, half in cash,
651
00:32:57,742 --> 00:33:00,507
half secured bond. Next.
652
00:33:00,545 --> 00:33:02,411
This has gone too far.
653
00:33:02,447 --> 00:33:04,279
The case is preposterous, Ben.
654
00:33:04,316 --> 00:33:06,376
Anybody could have
broken into that house.
655
00:33:06,418 --> 00:33:09,582
Wait a minute, you kill a child,
656
00:33:09,621 --> 00:33:12,614
drag him to a stranger's
house, stick him in a wall?
657
00:33:12,657 --> 00:33:14,683
I'm filing a motion
for dismissal.
658
00:33:14,726 --> 00:33:16,661
We're presenting
to the grand jury.
659
00:33:16,695 --> 00:33:17,993
I'll file to quash.
660
00:33:18,029 --> 00:33:20,794
My daughter...
661
00:33:20,832 --> 00:33:22,801
is a lovely, sweet woman
662
00:33:22,834 --> 00:33:26,737
who is very disturbed.
Don't make her worse.
663
00:33:26,771 --> 00:33:29,605
Stop manipulating her,
maybe she'll feel better.
664
00:33:29,641 --> 00:33:31,735
And disturbed or not,
a jury will believe her.
665
00:33:31,776 --> 00:33:33,938
Do you know what a trial
does to this man's life?
666
00:33:33,979 --> 00:33:35,743
Spare him the horror.
667
00:33:35,780 --> 00:33:38,011
Manslaughter one,
eight and a third-to-25.
668
00:33:38,049 --> 00:33:39,278
You can't be serious.
669
00:33:39,317 --> 00:33:41,252
A 30-year-old crime,
670
00:33:41,286 --> 00:33:43,721
and a case that doesn't
dignify the word evidence?
671
00:33:43,755 --> 00:33:46,122
Doug, there is nothing
dignified about this case.
672
00:33:46,157 --> 00:33:48,991
Not the evidence, not the
crime, not the defendant.
673
00:33:53,331 --> 00:33:56,529
Your key witness... I
wouldn't count on her.
674
00:33:56,568 --> 00:33:58,969
You know where she took
her summer vacation last year?
675
00:33:59,004 --> 00:34:01,667
Bellevue... the
psychiatric ward.
676
00:34:06,344 --> 00:34:09,405
Every word, your memories,
677
00:34:09,447 --> 00:34:11,382
your attitude toward
your parents...
678
00:34:11,416 --> 00:34:13,385
All of it comes into question.
679
00:34:13,418 --> 00:34:16,855
I'm sorry. A psychiatric
ward is embarrassing.
680
00:34:16,888 --> 00:34:19,824
A trial can be embarrassing.
Not just to your father, to you.
681
00:34:19,858 --> 00:34:21,850
I can handle it.
682
00:34:21,893 --> 00:34:25,091
It was a transient episode.
She was there three weeks.
683
00:34:25,130 --> 00:34:27,565
The jury hears
words like paranoia,
684
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:29,795
suicidal depression...
685
00:34:29,834 --> 00:34:32,326
They are there to be judgmental.
686
00:34:32,370 --> 00:34:34,999
My breakdown helped me.
687
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,238
Everything I kept inside
started to come out.
688
00:34:38,276 --> 00:34:41,212
Julie, if there is anything
else he should know...
689
00:34:41,246 --> 00:34:43,408
And for your sake.
690
00:34:43,448 --> 00:34:46,008
My father's on trial, not me.
691
00:34:46,051 --> 00:34:48,213
The credibility
of your testimony
692
00:34:48,253 --> 00:34:50,449
is what is on trial.
693
00:34:50,488 --> 00:34:53,652
All my secrets
are out, Mr. Stone.
694
00:34:53,692 --> 00:34:55,923
And my parents', too.
695
00:35:02,734 --> 00:35:06,034
The skull had a lateral unaligned
fracture 12 centimeters long.
696
00:35:06,071 --> 00:35:08,836
Could that have been
caused by a fall... an accident?
697
00:35:08,873 --> 00:35:11,934
No, the skull was hit
directly by a heavy object.
698
00:35:11,977 --> 00:35:14,208
Thank you. Your witness.
699
00:35:14,245 --> 00:35:16,373
Mr. Huston, if a boy
crawled inside a wall,
700
00:35:16,414 --> 00:35:17,973
and an ordinary red brick
701
00:35:18,016 --> 00:35:20,645
like the ones found near
the bones you examined...
702
00:35:20,685 --> 00:35:22,313
If a brick fell
eight or 10 feet,
703
00:35:22,354 --> 00:35:24,550
could it leave a fracture
like you described?
704
00:35:24,589 --> 00:35:27,024
- It's possible...
- Thank you, no further questions.
705
00:35:27,058 --> 00:35:28,617
Possible, but
extremely unlikely.
706
00:35:28,660 --> 00:35:30,492
No further questions.
707
00:35:31,863 --> 00:35:35,493
Keegan: He never really
had much of a father.
708
00:35:35,533 --> 00:35:38,935
Tommy was only four
when my husband died.
709
00:35:38,970 --> 00:35:42,998
Did your son have a
relationship with the defendant?
710
00:35:43,041 --> 00:35:45,636
I worried about the lack
711
00:35:45,677 --> 00:35:47,805
of a father figure for Tommy,
712
00:35:47,846 --> 00:35:50,509
so I was happy
713
00:35:50,548 --> 00:35:52,915
to see Thad befriend Tommy.
714
00:35:54,519 --> 00:35:57,045
What did you personally witness
715
00:35:57,088 --> 00:35:59,387
of your son's relationship
with the defendant?
716
00:36:00,392 --> 00:36:04,329
Thad would... tap
him on the head
717
00:36:04,362 --> 00:36:06,797
and tell him he
was big and strong,
718
00:36:06,831 --> 00:36:08,891
grow up to be a football player.
719
00:36:08,933 --> 00:36:11,698
He took him to a
Giants game once
720
00:36:11,736 --> 00:36:13,261
with his daughter.
721
00:36:13,304 --> 00:36:15,671
Tommy came home
722
00:36:15,707 --> 00:36:17,835
with one of the
player's autographs.
723
00:36:17,876 --> 00:36:20,004
Thank you. No further questions.
724
00:36:22,213 --> 00:36:24,876
Mrs. Keegan,
725
00:36:24,916 --> 00:36:26,680
did you tell the police
726
00:36:26,718 --> 00:36:29,813
about Mr. Messimer's
relationship with your son?
727
00:36:29,854 --> 00:36:32,585
No. Why?
728
00:36:32,624 --> 00:36:35,093
It didn't seem unusual to you?
729
00:36:35,126 --> 00:36:37,561
No.
730
00:36:37,595 --> 00:36:40,190
What made you change your mind?
731
00:36:40,231 --> 00:36:42,530
Well...
732
00:36:42,567 --> 00:36:45,093
nothing made me change my mind.
733
00:36:45,136 --> 00:36:49,437
Did Tommy ever complain to you
after he spent time with Mr. Messimer?
734
00:36:49,474 --> 00:36:52,000
Did he seem troubled? Moody?
735
00:36:52,043 --> 00:36:53,443
No.
736
00:36:53,478 --> 00:36:55,606
Did you have a close
relationship with your son?
737
00:36:55,647 --> 00:36:57,843
Did he confide in you?
738
00:36:57,882 --> 00:37:00,249
As much as children do.
739
00:37:00,285 --> 00:37:02,151
Thank you, no further questions.
740
00:37:02,187 --> 00:37:03,746
No, wait!
741
00:37:03,788 --> 00:37:05,654
You're trying to make
this seem as... as...
742
00:37:05,690 --> 00:37:07,090
Your Honor.
743
00:37:07,125 --> 00:37:08,525
The witness is excused.
744
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,462
But I trusted Thad.
I had no idea...
745
00:37:11,496 --> 00:37:15,058
Mrs. Keegan, please, step down.
746
00:37:16,201 --> 00:37:18,170
Repression is a well-understood
747
00:37:18,203 --> 00:37:20,195
psychological mechanism.
748
00:37:20,238 --> 00:37:22,173
Memories too painful to bear
749
00:37:22,207 --> 00:37:24,176
are excluded from
conscious awareness.
750
00:37:24,209 --> 00:37:26,610
Can you explain the
appearance of memories
751
00:37:26,644 --> 00:37:29,170
after being repressed
for so many years?
752
00:37:29,214 --> 00:37:31,376
As a person grows up
753
00:37:31,416 --> 00:37:34,545
and is psychologically capable
of coping with a painful event,
754
00:37:34,586 --> 00:37:36,782
the memories break through.
755
00:37:36,821 --> 00:37:38,790
Thank you. No further questions.
756
00:37:39,958 --> 00:37:42,553
Dr. Olivet,
757
00:37:42,594 --> 00:37:45,428
don't we often think we remember
things that never happened?
758
00:37:45,463 --> 00:37:47,261
Sometimes.
759
00:37:47,298 --> 00:37:49,858
But repressed memories
of traumatic events
760
00:37:49,901 --> 00:37:51,460
are usually accurate.
761
00:37:51,503 --> 00:37:53,404
Are you familiar with the work
762
00:37:53,438 --> 00:37:56,966
of a psychiatrist named
Abraham Trigonis?
763
00:37:57,008 --> 00:37:59,000
Yes.
764
00:37:59,043 --> 00:38:02,878
Tell the court Dr. Trigonis's
theory of childhood memories.
765
00:38:02,914 --> 00:38:05,247
Dr. Trigonis believes
766
00:38:05,283 --> 00:38:07,548
that many adult
memories of childhood
767
00:38:07,585 --> 00:38:11,613
are to some extent an amalgam
of fantasy and wish fulfillment.
768
00:38:11,656 --> 00:38:14,558
And yet you just said adult
memories of childhood are accurate.
769
00:38:14,592 --> 00:38:16,959
What I said was
repressed memories
770
00:38:16,995 --> 00:38:18,987
of traumatic
events are accurate,
771
00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:21,829
especially when remembering
brings on a new trauma.
772
00:38:21,866 --> 00:38:24,734
Repressed memories?
Adult memories?
773
00:38:24,769 --> 00:38:27,432
It's certainly confusing
and abstract to me.
774
00:38:27,472 --> 00:38:30,340
No further questions.
775
00:38:30,375 --> 00:38:31,934
Thad: This is blackmail.
776
00:38:31,976 --> 00:38:33,945
No, this is your meeting.
777
00:38:33,978 --> 00:38:35,844
Spare his daughter
further suffering,
778
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,817
Mr. Messimer will consider
a plea with the record sealed.
779
00:38:39,851 --> 00:38:43,185
I'm sure Mr. Messimer
knows all about sealed records.
780
00:38:43,221 --> 00:38:46,623
Don't force this, Ben. I'll
demolish that woman on the stand.
781
00:38:46,658 --> 00:38:48,456
Oh, I get it.
782
00:38:48,493 --> 00:38:50,325
He cares about her,
but you'll demolish her.
783
00:38:50,361 --> 00:38:53,229
Criminally negligent
homicide. He does no time.
784
00:38:53,264 --> 00:38:55,233
No time for killing a child?
785
00:38:55,266 --> 00:38:58,065
Who's blackmailing whom?
786
00:38:58,102 --> 00:39:01,095
Manslaughter one, same offer.
787
00:39:01,139 --> 00:39:03,608
I love my daughter,
788
00:39:03,641 --> 00:39:06,406
but I'm not going to prison
789
00:39:06,444 --> 00:39:09,004
for a crime I didn't commit.
790
00:39:11,049 --> 00:39:13,382
Olivet: She'll be here, relax.
791
00:39:13,418 --> 00:39:16,445
She falls apart on the stand,
she'll blow us right out of the water.
792
00:39:16,487 --> 00:39:19,047
What do you think
she does to herself?
793
00:39:19,090 --> 00:39:22,458
Her breakdown was
what... A year ago?
794
00:39:22,493 --> 00:39:24,860
Let's just hope this doesn't
give her another one.
795
00:39:32,871 --> 00:39:34,567
Are you okay?
796
00:39:34,606 --> 00:39:37,872
My father was waiting for me
last night in front of my building.
797
00:39:37,909 --> 00:39:40,174
He begged me
not to say anything.
798
00:39:40,211 --> 00:39:42,271
He told me it would
be better for me.
799
00:39:42,313 --> 00:39:44,748
Not him, me.
800
00:39:44,782 --> 00:39:46,717
All those years...
801
00:39:46,751 --> 00:39:49,880
and I wondered what
was wrong with me.
802
00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:54,359
I'll be okay.
803
00:39:59,330 --> 00:40:03,097
Stone: And why did you
seek psychiatric help?
804
00:40:03,134 --> 00:40:06,195
I was depressed. I
had thoughts of suicide.
805
00:40:06,237 --> 00:40:09,730
Were you ever hospitalized
for emotional problems?
806
00:40:09,774 --> 00:40:12,209
About a year ago
for three weeks.
807
00:40:12,243 --> 00:40:14,371
I suffered from
paranoid delusions.
808
00:40:14,412 --> 00:40:15,846
Do you still suffer from them?
809
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,712
No.
810
00:40:17,749 --> 00:40:19,775
Uh, Mrs. Atkinson,
811
00:40:19,817 --> 00:40:21,809
please tell us what happened
812
00:40:21,853 --> 00:40:24,550
the day Tommy
Keegan disappeared.
813
00:40:26,891 --> 00:40:29,360
Tommy and I left school together
814
00:40:29,394 --> 00:40:31,295
and stopped at a
corner candy store,
815
00:40:31,329 --> 00:40:33,321
and then we started home.
816
00:40:33,364 --> 00:40:35,060
Mom was at work
817
00:40:35,099 --> 00:40:37,694
and my dad was
waiting at the front door.
818
00:40:37,735 --> 00:40:40,136
And what else do you recall?
819
00:40:40,171 --> 00:40:42,538
I didn't feel very well,
820
00:40:42,573 --> 00:40:44,098
so I went to bed early.
821
00:40:44,142 --> 00:40:46,873
My dad brought me some warm milk
822
00:40:46,911 --> 00:40:48,812
and I fell asleep.
823
00:40:48,846 --> 00:40:51,543
But I woke up to
go to the bathroom
824
00:40:51,582 --> 00:40:53,346
and I wanted to brush my teeth,
825
00:40:53,384 --> 00:40:55,376
so I went down the hall.
826
00:40:55,420 --> 00:40:57,412
The bathroom door was ajar.
827
00:41:00,692 --> 00:41:03,594
I heard water running...
828
00:41:05,997 --> 00:41:08,762
I pushed the door open...
829
00:41:13,638 --> 00:41:15,766
and I saw...
830
00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:20,403
I saw...
831
00:41:20,445 --> 00:41:22,437
What did you see?
832
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,119
My dad...
833
00:41:33,591 --> 00:41:36,083
was kneeling at the tub
834
00:41:36,127 --> 00:41:39,723
and he was washing
out a blue sweater.
835
00:41:41,766 --> 00:41:44,326
The sweater was all bloody
836
00:41:44,369 --> 00:41:48,170
and his hands were bloody.
837
00:41:48,206 --> 00:41:52,166
I said, "Daddy, did
you hurt yourself?"
838
00:41:52,210 --> 00:41:55,669
I... wanted him
839
00:41:55,713 --> 00:41:57,614
to tell me everything
was all right.
840
00:41:57,648 --> 00:41:59,583
And what did he do?
841
00:41:59,617 --> 00:42:01,916
He turned to me...
842
00:42:04,222 --> 00:42:06,782
Blood was smeared on his face.
843
00:42:06,824 --> 00:42:08,725
And he had a look
844
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,093
like he was going to hit me.
845
00:42:11,129 --> 00:42:15,123
He looked like a
monster in a movie
846
00:42:15,166 --> 00:42:17,465
with his eyes all bulged out.
847
00:42:17,502 --> 00:42:19,801
Did he say anything?
848
00:42:21,005 --> 00:42:23,804
I don't remember
anything after that.
849
00:42:26,411 --> 00:42:28,642
Thank you.
850
00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:31,444
Your witness.
851
00:42:31,482 --> 00:42:34,919
Prior to the past two
months, Mrs. Atkinson,
852
00:42:36,054 --> 00:42:37,955
when did you last
see your parents?
853
00:42:37,989 --> 00:42:39,821
Two years ago.
854
00:42:39,857 --> 00:42:42,383
Two years! A long time.
855
00:42:42,427 --> 00:42:44,692
Did your parents
treat you badly?
856
00:42:44,729 --> 00:42:47,563
I didn't see them
857
00:42:47,598 --> 00:42:49,499
because it was
painful to talk to them.
858
00:42:49,534 --> 00:42:51,162
Oh, why?
859
00:42:51,202 --> 00:42:53,603
You feel your
parents don't love you?
860
00:42:53,638 --> 00:42:55,698
No, I'm sure they do.
861
00:42:55,740 --> 00:42:59,108
With your testimony, are you trying
to get back at them for some reason?
862
00:42:59,143 --> 00:43:00,406
Objection!
863
00:43:00,445 --> 00:43:02,607
Maybe you made this
up to get their attention.
864
00:43:02,647 --> 00:43:04,980
Sustained, Mr. Greer,
865
00:43:05,016 --> 00:43:08,453
that's enough along those
lines, move on to something else.
866
00:43:08,486 --> 00:43:11,456
Didn't you recall the
testimony you gave today
867
00:43:11,489 --> 00:43:13,617
only with the help
of a psychiatrist
868
00:43:13,658 --> 00:43:15,957
who works for the police
department of New York City?
869
00:43:15,993 --> 00:43:17,484
I just took a walk with her.
870
00:43:17,528 --> 00:43:19,463
You just took a walk...
871
00:43:19,497 --> 00:43:22,956
and suddenly you remember
what happened 31 years ago?
872
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,596
- Did your Bellevue delusions
include images of blood?
- No.
873
00:43:26,637 --> 00:43:30,074
- Or bathtubs? Or your
father trying to hurt you?
- No, you don't understand.
874
00:43:30,108 --> 00:43:31,440
Oh, I understand!
875
00:43:31,476 --> 00:43:34,571
I understand that you've
always resented your father
876
00:43:34,612 --> 00:43:38,413
because he told you hard truths you
didn't want to hear. Isn't that the truth?
877
00:43:38,449 --> 00:43:40,475
- My father and I...
- Oh, come on.
878
00:43:40,518 --> 00:43:42,953
This is... come on, come on.
879
00:43:46,958 --> 00:43:50,087
Didn't your father forbid you
to see a boy in high school
880
00:43:50,128 --> 00:43:52,120
who subsequently
made you pregnant?
881
00:43:52,163 --> 00:43:56,533
In fact, hasn't your
whole life been a disaster?
882
00:43:56,567 --> 00:43:58,832
Divorces, abortions...
883
00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:59,870
Your Honor!
884
00:43:59,904 --> 00:44:01,338
Mr. Greer!
885
00:44:04,942 --> 00:44:07,104
No more questions.
886
00:44:16,888 --> 00:44:19,585
Greer: He doesn't want
her on the stand again.
887
00:44:19,624 --> 00:44:22,059
My heart goes out to him.
888
00:44:22,093 --> 00:44:25,689
Tomorrow, on redirect,
889
00:44:25,730 --> 00:44:29,462
I'm asking Julie if he
told her not to testify.
890
00:44:29,500 --> 00:44:31,128
I'll object.
891
00:44:31,169 --> 00:44:33,104
He tampered with
a witness, Doug.
892
00:44:33,137 --> 00:44:35,333
If he even gets
near her again...
893
00:44:36,674 --> 00:44:39,508
I was tempted
to revoke his bail.
894
00:44:39,544 --> 00:44:41,274
That's a stretch.
895
00:44:41,312 --> 00:44:44,180
He practically asked
her to commit perjury.
896
00:44:44,215 --> 00:44:46,775
Forget stretch,
897
00:44:46,817 --> 00:44:48,979
that's a leap across
the Grand Canyon.
898
00:44:49,020 --> 00:44:51,580
I haven't changed my mind, Doug.
899
00:44:51,622 --> 00:44:53,955
Manslaughter one.
900
00:44:57,128 --> 00:45:00,098
He still insists he
didn't kill the boy.
901
00:45:00,131 --> 00:45:02,191
Fine.
902
00:45:02,233 --> 00:45:05,294
Does he want to
let a jury decide?
903
00:45:18,616 --> 00:45:20,517
Mr. Greer?
904
00:45:20,551 --> 00:45:22,918
Your Honor, with the
Court's permission,
905
00:45:22,954 --> 00:45:26,083
the defendant wishes to withdraw
his previously entered plea
906
00:45:26,123 --> 00:45:30,026
and plead guilty to the charge of
manslaughter in the first degree.
907
00:45:30,061 --> 00:45:32,496
Mr. Stone?
908
00:45:32,530 --> 00:45:34,658
The People agree, Your Honor,
909
00:45:34,699 --> 00:45:36,827
with a sentence of eight
and a third-to-25 years
910
00:45:36,867 --> 00:45:38,335
as a condition of the plea.
911
00:45:38,369 --> 00:45:42,170
Mr. Messimer, you
are pleading guilty
912
00:45:42,206 --> 00:45:45,699
to manslaughter in the
death of Thomas Keegan.
913
00:45:45,743 --> 00:45:48,474
Did you in fact commit the crime
914
00:45:48,512 --> 00:45:50,811
with which you're charged?
915
00:45:50,848 --> 00:45:52,874
Yes.
916
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,688
For the record,
917
00:45:56,721 --> 00:46:00,453
tell the Court how you
committed the crime.
918
00:46:01,459 --> 00:46:03,519
I hit him.
919
00:46:05,830 --> 00:46:09,323
It was a lug wrench
next to the boiler.
920
00:46:09,367 --> 00:46:11,700
I hit him on the head.
921
00:46:13,904 --> 00:46:16,772
I saw that he was dead and I...
922
00:46:19,944 --> 00:46:22,277
I put him inside the wall.
923
00:46:27,985 --> 00:46:30,511
I'm sorry.
924
00:46:33,190 --> 00:46:35,591
The plea agreement
is so entered.
925
00:46:53,444 --> 00:46:55,538
He would have been convicted.
926
00:46:55,579 --> 00:46:57,810
He'd have done 25.
927
00:46:58,883 --> 00:47:02,342
He's 65 years old, and I didn't
want his daughter waking up
928
00:47:02,386 --> 00:47:04,446
with nightmares for
the rest of her life.
929
00:47:04,488 --> 00:47:07,686
And now she knows for
sure... She didn't imagine it.67146
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