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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,969 --> 00:00:04,666 Narrator: In the criminal justice system, the people are represented 2 00:00:04,705 --> 00:00:07,265 by two separate yet equally important groups... 3 00:00:07,307 --> 00:00:09,173 The police who investigate crime, 4 00:00:09,209 --> 00:00:12,179 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:12,212 --> 00:00:13,874 These are their stories. 6 00:00:42,843 --> 00:00:44,675 Woman: No! 7 00:00:44,711 --> 00:00:46,202 No-oo! 8 00:00:49,182 --> 00:00:51,845 No-oo! 9 00:00:54,187 --> 00:00:57,180 Max: So he missed a lay up at the buzzer. So what? 10 00:00:57,224 --> 00:00:59,455 It just ticks me off. 11 00:00:59,493 --> 00:01:01,655 Some pituitary freak makes more in 40 minutes 12 00:01:01,695 --> 00:01:03,664 than I make all year. 13 00:01:03,697 --> 00:01:05,632 Who told you life was fair? 14 00:01:07,301 --> 00:01:08,929 Excuse us, sir. 15 00:01:08,969 --> 00:01:11,063 Aw, another kid. 16 00:01:30,157 --> 00:01:32,490 Mother of God. 17 00:03:06,420 --> 00:03:08,753 Woman: How am I going to tell Denise? 18 00:03:08,789 --> 00:03:11,122 How am I going to face her? 19 00:03:11,158 --> 00:03:13,389 We'll tell her, ma'am. 20 00:03:13,427 --> 00:03:15,293 Logan: How old is Andrew? 21 00:03:17,130 --> 00:03:18,792 Was. 22 00:03:18,832 --> 00:03:20,425 How old was he? 23 00:03:20,467 --> 00:03:22,163 11 months. 24 00:03:23,704 --> 00:03:27,766 He never even made it to his birthday. 25 00:03:27,808 --> 00:03:30,107 The boy's father? 26 00:03:31,478 --> 00:03:33,538 Who knows? 27 00:03:33,580 --> 00:03:36,175 Where's Denise work? 28 00:03:36,216 --> 00:03:38,481 One of the offices. 29 00:03:38,518 --> 00:03:40,749 Columbus Circle. 30 00:03:47,327 --> 00:03:50,229 They was rough-housing over by the window. 31 00:03:51,998 --> 00:03:55,628 I told Gregory to get away from there. 32 00:03:57,337 --> 00:04:00,933 I said, "Put him in his jumper." 33 00:04:02,943 --> 00:04:05,777 Stay with her. Make sure she's okay. 34 00:04:41,648 --> 00:04:44,777 Excuse me, Mrs. Winters? 35 00:04:44,818 --> 00:04:46,411 Hello? 36 00:04:46,453 --> 00:04:47,785 Sorry. 37 00:04:49,322 --> 00:04:51,416 Are you Denise Winters? 38 00:04:52,726 --> 00:04:54,661 Sit down, please. 39 00:04:59,065 --> 00:05:01,034 Mrs. Winters, 40 00:05:01,067 --> 00:05:03,263 there's been a shooting. 41 00:05:03,303 --> 00:05:04,896 Gregory? 42 00:05:04,938 --> 00:05:06,668 He's in the hospital. 43 00:05:06,706 --> 00:05:09,141 Last we heard, serious, but stable. 44 00:05:09,176 --> 00:05:11,168 Oh my God! Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa! 45 00:05:11,211 --> 00:05:13,203 Let me go! We'll take you to him. 46 00:05:13,246 --> 00:05:15,408 We'll take you to him. But that's not all. 47 00:05:15,448 --> 00:05:17,917 What you talking about? 48 00:05:17,951 --> 00:05:19,317 Andrew. 49 00:05:19,352 --> 00:05:21,218 He's dead. 50 00:05:24,524 --> 00:05:27,551 You're lying. You're lying. 51 00:05:27,594 --> 00:05:29,586 That's my baby. 52 00:05:29,629 --> 00:05:31,120 My baby. 53 00:05:31,164 --> 00:05:34,726 No, no, not my baby. 54 00:05:34,768 --> 00:05:37,499 No. No! 55 00:05:43,510 --> 00:05:45,274 Aaah! 56 00:05:46,646 --> 00:05:48,478 Oh God! 57 00:05:48,515 --> 00:05:51,246 No... my baby. 58 00:05:54,321 --> 00:05:56,347 Six in one week. 59 00:05:56,389 --> 00:05:57,948 At this clip, we're going to have 60 00:05:57,991 --> 00:06:01,291 a worse infant mortality rate than Ethiopia. 61 00:06:01,328 --> 00:06:03,229 Anybody see anything? 62 00:06:03,263 --> 00:06:05,255 What do you think? 63 00:06:06,433 --> 00:06:08,925 Slugs are from an automatic, that's all we know. 64 00:06:08,969 --> 00:06:11,063 They go through the door, hit the wall, 65 00:06:11,104 --> 00:06:12,936 they're too deformed for a positive make. 66 00:06:14,174 --> 00:06:17,076 You don't have one slug to get a match from? 67 00:06:17,110 --> 00:06:19,079 Max: Might get one from the baby. 68 00:06:19,112 --> 00:06:21,047 One went right through him, 69 00:06:21,081 --> 00:06:24,381 and one is lodged in the base of his neck. 70 00:06:24,417 --> 00:06:26,579 They think. 71 00:06:26,620 --> 00:06:28,589 How's the older brother doing? 72 00:06:28,622 --> 00:06:31,751 Not good. He still hasn't regained consciousness. 73 00:06:32,792 --> 00:06:34,158 Mushrooms. 74 00:06:35,328 --> 00:06:36,728 What? 75 00:06:36,763 --> 00:06:38,789 That's what they call them. 76 00:06:38,832 --> 00:06:40,960 It's a video game. 77 00:06:41,001 --> 00:06:42,594 You shoot at the centipedes. 78 00:06:42,636 --> 00:06:45,128 The mushrooms get in the way of the bullets. 79 00:06:47,173 --> 00:06:49,165 Video game... 80 00:06:50,176 --> 00:06:52,475 that's hysterical. 81 00:06:52,512 --> 00:06:54,913 Hey, give me a break, Max, I didn't make it up. 82 00:06:54,948 --> 00:06:56,780 He's a little tired. 83 00:06:56,816 --> 00:06:58,876 We're all tired. 84 00:07:06,293 --> 00:07:08,091 This thing about drugs? 85 00:07:08,128 --> 00:07:10,063 A place gets sprayed with automatic fire, 86 00:07:10,096 --> 00:07:12,656 you assume it's not because the stereo's too loud. 87 00:07:15,101 --> 00:07:18,629 Nobody ever has a verbal altercation anymore, you notice that? 88 00:07:18,672 --> 00:07:21,107 A good fist-fight. 89 00:07:21,141 --> 00:07:23,076 Somebody looks at you cockeyed, 90 00:07:23,109 --> 00:07:24,702 you whip out a Mac-10. 91 00:07:24,744 --> 00:07:26,337 Mmm. 92 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,779 I got 10 bucks says the older brother's a dealer 93 00:07:29,816 --> 00:07:31,512 and this is just a payback. 94 00:07:40,827 --> 00:07:42,557 Judge Haberman, please. 95 00:07:43,630 --> 00:07:46,293 Tell him it's Cragen. Captain Donald Cragen. 96 00:07:46,333 --> 00:07:48,427 I need a warrant. 97 00:08:04,951 --> 00:08:07,580 Why you always come too late? 98 00:08:07,620 --> 00:08:09,418 Excuse me? 99 00:08:09,456 --> 00:08:11,755 I said how come the police never there 100 00:08:11,791 --> 00:08:14,226 before somebody gets shot? 101 00:08:16,463 --> 00:08:19,365 With all due respect, ma'am, how are we supposed to know 102 00:08:19,399 --> 00:08:21,163 before somebody starts shooting? 103 00:08:21,201 --> 00:08:22,897 Logan: Max! 104 00:08:36,549 --> 00:08:38,040 Used? 105 00:08:41,788 --> 00:08:44,053 Hasn't been cleaned lately, that's for sure. 106 00:08:45,658 --> 00:08:47,820 That ain't Gregory's. 107 00:08:50,163 --> 00:08:51,893 It belonged to Gregory's daddy. 108 00:08:51,931 --> 00:08:54,457 We kept it for protection. 109 00:08:54,501 --> 00:08:57,596 Ain't got bullets no more. 110 00:09:03,443 --> 00:09:05,605 Yes, ma'am, I understand. 111 00:09:06,780 --> 00:09:09,375 But you still need a permit for a handgun. 112 00:09:19,292 --> 00:09:20,885 What happened to the bike? 113 00:09:20,927 --> 00:09:22,725 What? 114 00:09:23,730 --> 00:09:25,255 Had an accident. 115 00:09:25,298 --> 00:09:27,631 You guys hang with Gregory Winters? 116 00:09:27,667 --> 00:09:29,568 We know Gregory. 117 00:09:29,602 --> 00:09:31,313 Logan: See somebody in the building last night? 118 00:09:31,337 --> 00:09:32,896 Someone who doesn't live here? 119 00:09:32,939 --> 00:09:34,965 I look like a doorman? 120 00:09:35,975 --> 00:09:37,238 What about you? 121 00:09:37,277 --> 00:09:39,439 People come and go. 122 00:09:39,479 --> 00:09:42,278 Maybe they dealing, I don't know. 123 00:09:42,315 --> 00:09:45,513 Mike, did you say something about dealers? 124 00:09:46,953 --> 00:09:48,819 Why else are you asking then? 125 00:09:50,156 --> 00:09:53,490 'Cause a boy was hurt and his brother was killed. 126 00:09:54,494 --> 00:09:55,494 Come on. 127 00:09:55,528 --> 00:09:57,258 What did you see? 128 00:09:57,297 --> 00:09:59,357 He didn't see nothing. 129 00:09:59,399 --> 00:10:01,027 Hey, who's asking you, pal? 130 00:10:03,169 --> 00:10:05,195 When I was coming in, 131 00:10:05,238 --> 00:10:07,332 this dude was sitting here. 132 00:10:07,373 --> 00:10:08,864 Yeah? 133 00:10:08,908 --> 00:10:10,467 I never saw him before. 134 00:10:10,510 --> 00:10:12,638 What did he look like? 135 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,614 He had some tracks on the side, 136 00:10:14,647 --> 00:10:16,809 and his mouth were all sparked out. 137 00:10:20,019 --> 00:10:23,387 It's a checkerboard cut, gold caps on his teeth. 138 00:10:24,390 --> 00:10:25,983 Gold caps. 139 00:10:26,025 --> 00:10:28,324 Your mom and dad around? 140 00:10:33,032 --> 00:10:34,694 You see him, Tonel? 141 00:10:36,236 --> 00:10:39,001 What, am I supposed to know everybody in the neighborhood? 142 00:10:39,038 --> 00:10:41,564 Nope, just a possible accomplice to a murder. 143 00:10:41,608 --> 00:10:43,839 That's enough. He's only a boy. 144 00:10:43,877 --> 00:10:45,778 So were the victims, ma'am. 145 00:10:45,812 --> 00:10:47,906 What about the one who ran out? 146 00:10:47,947 --> 00:10:51,008 Whoever it was ran him over. He told you that already. 147 00:10:51,050 --> 00:10:53,576 Ain't that enough? Do you know what happens to him 148 00:10:53,620 --> 00:10:56,454 if those boys on the block think he's a snitch? 149 00:10:56,489 --> 00:10:58,822 Let's go. 150 00:11:00,994 --> 00:11:02,656 Wait, wait a minute. Tonel. 151 00:11:02,695 --> 00:11:04,425 Just a sec, all right? 152 00:11:04,464 --> 00:11:06,729 If you were looking for a bad guy in your neighborhood, 153 00:11:06,766 --> 00:11:08,394 where would you start? 154 00:11:08,434 --> 00:11:10,312 You don't have to snitch. We're just talking here. 155 00:11:10,336 --> 00:11:12,828 The crack house above the bodega. 156 00:11:12,872 --> 00:11:14,363 Which one? 157 00:11:14,407 --> 00:11:17,036 99th and Manhattan. 158 00:11:32,225 --> 00:11:34,251 Raise up! Yo! Yo! 159 00:11:36,229 --> 00:11:38,061 Raise up! Raise up, man! Raise up! 160 00:11:38,097 --> 00:11:41,158 Police! 161 00:11:41,234 --> 00:11:43,260 Get out of there! Max: Don't even breathe! 162 00:11:43,303 --> 00:11:45,272 Logan: Get out of there! Don't even breathe! 163 00:11:45,305 --> 00:11:46,603 Get your butt in here! 164 00:11:46,639 --> 00:11:48,608 Logan: Come here, come here! Up against the wall! 165 00:11:48,641 --> 00:11:52,169 Max: Move it! I said now! Move it, now! 166 00:11:52,212 --> 00:11:54,044 Hands behind your head! 167 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,605 Behind your head! Spread your legs. 168 00:11:55,782 --> 00:11:57,944 Spread your legs. 169 00:11:57,984 --> 00:11:59,179 Come on, move it. 170 00:11:59,219 --> 00:12:01,484 Let's go. 171 00:12:01,521 --> 00:12:03,820 Look towards the window. Spread your legs. 172 00:12:03,856 --> 00:12:05,950 Face the window! 173 00:12:07,126 --> 00:12:08,594 Mike! 174 00:12:11,798 --> 00:12:13,858 Gimme your hand. 175 00:12:15,335 --> 00:12:17,099 Check out over there. 176 00:12:18,671 --> 00:12:20,299 Gimme your hand. 177 00:12:20,340 --> 00:12:21,933 Logan: Max! 178 00:12:21,975 --> 00:12:23,671 Yeah? 179 00:12:25,745 --> 00:12:27,270 What've you got? 180 00:12:32,518 --> 00:12:34,885 You believe this firepower? 181 00:12:37,523 --> 00:12:41,016 You guys are so trigger-happy, why don't you join the army? 182 00:12:52,138 --> 00:12:54,107 9mm. 183 00:12:54,140 --> 00:12:55,665 Nice and clean. 184 00:12:55,708 --> 00:12:57,540 Hardly a scratch. 185 00:12:57,577 --> 00:12:59,443 That was in the boy's neck? 186 00:12:59,479 --> 00:13:01,311 Sometimes... 187 00:13:01,347 --> 00:13:03,441 bullets take a very strange route. 188 00:13:03,483 --> 00:13:06,180 This one corkscrewed 189 00:13:06,219 --> 00:13:07,414 down into the right lung. 190 00:13:08,488 --> 00:13:10,719 We're lucky we found it. 191 00:13:17,697 --> 00:13:19,495 So which one was it? 192 00:13:21,100 --> 00:13:22,796 Tec-9. 193 00:13:22,835 --> 00:13:25,134 Superior spraying power, 194 00:13:25,171 --> 00:13:28,403 unsurpassed for penetrating steel doors. 195 00:13:28,441 --> 00:13:30,603 That's terrific. How good's the match? 196 00:13:30,643 --> 00:13:32,976 The slug you got from the Winters kid? 197 00:13:33,012 --> 00:13:34,810 Fired from this gun, no question. 198 00:13:34,847 --> 00:13:36,577 Prints? Multiples. 199 00:13:36,616 --> 00:13:38,642 One set, loud and clear. 200 00:13:40,853 --> 00:13:42,822 I wasn't there. 201 00:13:42,855 --> 00:13:44,323 Your prints were. 202 00:13:44,357 --> 00:13:46,053 I got an alibi. Who cares? 203 00:13:46,092 --> 00:13:47,651 That's the gun that killed the baby. 204 00:13:47,694 --> 00:13:49,424 It's got your fingerprints all over it. 205 00:13:49,462 --> 00:13:51,431 Maybe the gun killed him, but not me! 206 00:13:51,464 --> 00:13:54,730 Roneld, stupid and tough is a bad combination. 207 00:13:54,767 --> 00:13:57,828 Yeah, well, it works for you, man, right? 208 00:13:58,838 --> 00:14:00,397 That's funny. 209 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,103 Yeah, he'll be the class clown at Spofford. 210 00:14:03,142 --> 00:14:05,373 Yo, forget Spofford. I ain't going to no Spofford. 211 00:14:06,946 --> 00:14:08,642 I'm calling the DA. 212 00:14:20,126 --> 00:14:21,958 You find who did it? 213 00:14:21,994 --> 00:14:26,046 Maybe. 214 00:14:26,132 --> 00:14:28,294 Listen, 215 00:14:28,334 --> 00:14:31,270 Did Gregory know a guy named Roneld Griggs? 216 00:14:31,304 --> 00:14:33,205 I don't know. Why? 217 00:14:33,239 --> 00:14:36,004 He had the gun that... 218 00:14:38,010 --> 00:14:40,002 Max: We need a motive. 219 00:14:41,247 --> 00:14:43,842 Was Gregory involved with... 220 00:14:43,883 --> 00:14:45,215 With what? 221 00:14:45,251 --> 00:14:47,277 Drugs? 222 00:14:49,722 --> 00:14:52,282 Wednesday and Thursday nights, 223 00:14:52,325 --> 00:14:53,987 Saturday mornings, 224 00:14:54,026 --> 00:14:55,858 Gregory plays basketball. 225 00:14:55,895 --> 00:14:58,228 Monday and Tuesday nights, 226 00:14:58,264 --> 00:15:00,028 he got choir practice. 227 00:15:00,066 --> 00:15:03,002 Gregory ain't perfect, but he ain't into no dope. 228 00:15:03,035 --> 00:15:04,560 I can guarantee you that. 229 00:15:04,604 --> 00:15:07,631 No offense, but sometimes you can't tell these kinds of things. 230 00:15:07,673 --> 00:15:10,199 Maybe you can't, but I sure as hell can. 231 00:15:10,243 --> 00:15:11,541 Look, I know it's not easy... 232 00:15:11,577 --> 00:15:13,569 Easy? 233 00:15:13,613 --> 00:15:15,377 Mister... 234 00:15:15,415 --> 00:15:17,646 I got a dead baby, 235 00:15:17,683 --> 00:15:19,845 a boy who may be crippled... 236 00:15:20,853 --> 00:15:22,822 and a supervisor who tells me 237 00:15:22,855 --> 00:15:25,450 that going to the morgue and to the hospital 238 00:15:25,491 --> 00:15:27,756 is considered personal time. 239 00:15:27,794 --> 00:15:29,695 And now you saying maybe Greg... 240 00:15:31,964 --> 00:15:34,058 Gregory was on drugs? 241 00:15:34,100 --> 00:15:37,332 Maybe he brought this on himself? 242 00:15:39,839 --> 00:15:41,831 I'm sorry. 243 00:15:41,874 --> 00:15:43,866 Get out of here. 244 00:15:45,011 --> 00:15:46,980 All right? 245 00:15:47,013 --> 00:15:49,209 I got work to do. 246 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,983 Man: Gregory Winters was a classic point guard. 247 00:15:57,023 --> 00:15:59,583 He ran the floor, you know what I'm saying? 248 00:15:59,659 --> 00:16:01,423 Kid was the brains of this team. 249 00:16:01,461 --> 00:16:03,054 Then he isn't in a gang? 250 00:16:03,095 --> 00:16:05,441 He didn't have time for that. He thought those guys were lame. 251 00:16:05,465 --> 00:16:06,933 You ever see him hang out with a kid 252 00:16:06,966 --> 00:16:09,936 with a checkerboard haircut and sparked out teeth? 253 00:16:09,969 --> 00:16:11,961 That kinda crap's out there. 254 00:16:12,004 --> 00:16:13,632 But like I say, 255 00:16:13,673 --> 00:16:15,835 my boys don't have time for stuff like that. 256 00:16:15,875 --> 00:16:17,707 Thanks. 257 00:16:19,345 --> 00:16:21,007 Gregory Winters is a good kid. 258 00:16:21,047 --> 00:16:23,516 He plays ball, that's it. 259 00:16:23,549 --> 00:16:26,383 No link to Roneld whatsoever. 260 00:16:26,419 --> 00:16:30,186 A lot of partial prints. Only Roneld's for sure. 261 00:16:30,223 --> 00:16:33,091 Does that make a case against him? No, it does not. 262 00:16:33,125 --> 00:16:35,617 But if he didn't fire the gun, at least he knows who did. 263 00:16:35,661 --> 00:16:38,825 Hey look, I would like to have another crack at him. 264 00:16:38,865 --> 00:16:41,892 Fine, great. Only this time make sure a parent is in the room. 265 00:16:41,934 --> 00:16:44,836 Otherwise, legally, the kid's flapping his lips for nothing. 266 00:16:45,872 --> 00:16:47,431 Be gentle, Mike. 267 00:16:47,473 --> 00:16:49,874 Don't break the little creep's trigger finger. 268 00:16:53,012 --> 00:16:55,038 Ronnie never killed nobody. 269 00:16:55,081 --> 00:16:58,483 Right. He's a good boy. 270 00:16:58,518 --> 00:17:00,817 Just two prior gun possessions, 271 00:17:00,853 --> 00:17:02,321 and a dope misdemeanor. 272 00:17:02,355 --> 00:17:04,085 What about yesterday? 273 00:17:04,123 --> 00:17:06,524 Let's make that three guns, two drugs. 274 00:17:06,559 --> 00:17:08,460 Sounds to me like a year, minimum. 275 00:17:08,494 --> 00:17:09,928 Ain't nothing to it. 276 00:17:09,962 --> 00:17:11,260 Oh, why is that? 277 00:17:11,297 --> 00:17:13,960 You like it in prison, punk? 278 00:17:19,805 --> 00:17:23,105 Maybe if we knew exactly what you was looking for... 279 00:17:23,142 --> 00:17:25,771 We want to know who pulled the damn trigger. 280 00:17:25,811 --> 00:17:28,975 Because it sure as hell looks like your boy did it. 281 00:17:37,657 --> 00:17:39,250 Tell them, Ronnie. 282 00:17:39,292 --> 00:17:41,625 No. 283 00:17:46,332 --> 00:17:49,530 You think you can play this fool game with me?! 284 00:17:53,839 --> 00:17:55,637 Tell them. 285 00:17:59,345 --> 00:18:01,280 I lent the gun to Dizz. 286 00:18:04,116 --> 00:18:05,482 Who's Dizz? 287 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:08,610 His cousin. 288 00:18:10,890 --> 00:18:12,688 What's he look like? 289 00:18:12,725 --> 00:18:15,251 He's got some 290 00:18:15,294 --> 00:18:17,957 design cut in his head... 291 00:18:17,997 --> 00:18:19,829 Like a checkerboard. 292 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,492 I don't suppose he's sporting a lot of gold teeth? 293 00:18:23,536 --> 00:18:26,472 Fort Knox. 294 00:18:46,158 --> 00:18:48,024 Logan: Yo! Yo! 295 00:18:49,028 --> 00:18:52,157 Which one of you guys is Dizz Williams? 296 00:18:54,433 --> 00:18:56,026 Boys: Hey, Dizz! Go, man! 297 00:18:56,135 --> 00:18:57,626 C'mon, man! 298 00:19:01,173 --> 00:19:03,108 Look at them gold teeth. 299 00:19:03,142 --> 00:19:04,633 Hello, Dizz. 300 00:19:04,677 --> 00:19:06,612 The Tec-9 you got from your cousin Ronnie... 301 00:19:06,646 --> 00:19:08,512 Who used it when you were on the stoop? 302 00:19:08,547 --> 00:19:11,483 I want a lawyer! Give him a lawyer. 303 00:19:11,517 --> 00:19:15,454 Who used the gun? I want to know the name, Dizz! 304 00:19:15,488 --> 00:19:16,979 I ain't got no name! 305 00:19:17,023 --> 00:19:19,549 Wrong. You got a name, 306 00:19:19,592 --> 00:19:21,458 and pretty soon you're going to have a number. 307 00:19:21,494 --> 00:19:23,861 You're under arrest for the murder of Andrew Winters. 308 00:19:23,896 --> 00:19:25,330 You have the right to remain silent, 309 00:19:25,364 --> 00:19:26,957 and refuse to answer questions. 310 00:19:26,999 --> 00:19:29,244 Anything you do say may be used against you in a court of law. 311 00:19:29,268 --> 00:19:32,796 You're saying you've never been in that building before, huh? 312 00:19:32,838 --> 00:19:35,137 I said I was in South Carolina until last night. 313 00:19:35,174 --> 00:19:37,075 That's right, with family. 314 00:19:37,109 --> 00:19:39,221 How could you shoot the hell out of the Winters family 315 00:19:39,245 --> 00:19:41,339 if you were down south with your family? 316 00:19:41,380 --> 00:19:43,611 I don't know nothing about no shooting. 317 00:19:43,649 --> 00:19:45,174 Oh. 318 00:19:45,217 --> 00:19:46,879 The gun that was used in the shooting, 319 00:19:46,919 --> 00:19:49,252 the one that you know nothing about... 320 00:19:49,288 --> 00:19:51,587 Your cousin Roneld said he gave it to you. 321 00:19:51,624 --> 00:19:53,217 Roneld a punk. 322 00:19:53,259 --> 00:19:55,524 You're dissing me. Roneld'd never say that. 323 00:19:55,561 --> 00:19:58,622 I'm dissing you? Huh? 324 00:19:58,664 --> 00:20:01,657 Oh, I forgot, you're such a big man. 325 00:20:01,701 --> 00:20:04,364 It takes a real big man to ice a baby. 326 00:20:04,403 --> 00:20:06,031 I didn't ice nobody! Yeah? 327 00:20:06,072 --> 00:20:08,303 Then you're going down for someone else's bummer, 328 00:20:08,340 --> 00:20:10,900 'cause right now we got a witness that puts you there. 329 00:20:10,943 --> 00:20:12,969 And you had the gun. 330 00:20:13,012 --> 00:20:16,505 My boy's 13. You can't do nothing like this. You got to go to juvie... 331 00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:19,883 We can do plenty when it comes to felony homicide, Mr. Williams. 332 00:20:19,919 --> 00:20:21,820 If you don't want to blow parole, 333 00:20:21,854 --> 00:20:23,379 just shut up! 334 00:20:23,422 --> 00:20:25,391 Dizz on tape: You're dissing me. 335 00:20:25,424 --> 00:20:27,859 I don't know nothing about no shooting. 336 00:20:29,195 --> 00:20:31,164 It's not enough that he had the gun. 337 00:20:31,197 --> 00:20:33,132 His prints could've been from anytime. 338 00:20:33,165 --> 00:20:35,760 You got a witness who saw him at the shooting. 339 00:20:35,801 --> 00:20:38,270 Tonel Otten, a 12 year old. 340 00:20:38,304 --> 00:20:40,864 As we all know, not terrific on the stand. 341 00:20:40,906 --> 00:20:43,273 Roneld gave Dizz the gun. 342 00:20:43,309 --> 00:20:44,743 Says Roneld. 343 00:20:44,777 --> 00:20:46,302 Let's be realistic here. 344 00:20:46,345 --> 00:20:48,746 Juvenile court judges may not like kids with guns, 345 00:20:48,781 --> 00:20:51,216 but they like a clean case, and they want a motive. 346 00:20:51,250 --> 00:20:53,481 Who says the little son of a bitch needs a motive? 347 00:20:53,519 --> 00:20:55,818 Max. Max: What the hell is a motive, anyway? 348 00:20:55,855 --> 00:20:57,847 "He took my seat." Bam! 349 00:20:57,890 --> 00:20:59,916 "He's looking at my girlfriend." Bam! 350 00:20:59,959 --> 00:21:02,895 "I need them shoes." Bam! 351 00:21:03,963 --> 00:21:06,330 Max has been busting his chops on this case. 352 00:21:06,365 --> 00:21:07,594 Robinette: I understand. 353 00:21:07,633 --> 00:21:09,795 Whoa, I can apologize for myself! 354 00:21:09,835 --> 00:21:13,135 Only I don't feel apologetic! I'm fed up! 355 00:21:21,413 --> 00:21:24,076 You put together a strong case 356 00:21:24,116 --> 00:21:25,914 we'll put him away, Sergeant. 357 00:21:27,686 --> 00:21:31,145 I know, I know. Why am I picking a fight with you? 358 00:21:34,093 --> 00:21:36,028 You know what it is, Paul? 359 00:21:36,061 --> 00:21:37,962 Dizz is 13. 360 00:21:37,997 --> 00:21:40,990 The boy in the hospital, he's 12. 361 00:21:41,033 --> 00:21:43,969 The baby's in the ground. 362 00:21:44,003 --> 00:21:46,996 Our emergency rooms are up to their ears 363 00:21:47,039 --> 00:21:48,974 with kids on the wrong end of stray bullets, 364 00:21:49,008 --> 00:21:50,670 and this little scuz is laughing at us 365 00:21:50,709 --> 00:21:53,543 'cause he knows he's a juvenile and we can't get him! 366 00:21:59,718 --> 00:22:01,744 That's not necessarily true. 367 00:22:08,727 --> 00:22:10,423 Bailiff: People versus Williams, 368 00:22:10,462 --> 00:22:12,761 counsel will waive reading of the rights and charges. 369 00:22:12,798 --> 00:22:13,959 Your Honor, this is a joke. 370 00:22:13,999 --> 00:22:15,661 You can't try this boy as an adult. 371 00:22:15,701 --> 00:22:17,533 We should be standing in family court. 372 00:22:17,570 --> 00:22:20,665 Robinette: Mr. Williams may be only 13, but the statute is clear. 373 00:22:20,706 --> 00:22:23,801 He's here on a felony complaint charging intentional murder two. 374 00:22:23,843 --> 00:22:25,744 Mr. Robinette, can I get in a word here? 375 00:22:25,778 --> 00:22:27,178 This boy have any priors? 376 00:22:27,213 --> 00:22:29,409 Two, Your Honor, both involving guns. 377 00:22:29,448 --> 00:22:31,713 We believe these show a real propensity to violence. 378 00:22:31,750 --> 00:22:34,743 If the court remands to Supreme Criminal, 379 00:22:34,787 --> 00:22:36,585 you'll indict on intentional murder two? 380 00:22:36,622 --> 00:22:37,783 Absolutely. 381 00:22:37,823 --> 00:22:39,519 Your Honor, with all due respect, 382 00:22:39,558 --> 00:22:41,220 isn't this kind of overkill? 383 00:22:41,260 --> 00:22:43,559 "Kill"? I wouldn't use that word in here 384 00:22:43,596 --> 00:22:45,622 if the accused were my client. 385 00:22:45,664 --> 00:22:48,930 Mr. Williams knew exactly what he was doing. 386 00:22:48,968 --> 00:22:52,234 It is just and appropriate that he be tried as an adult. 387 00:22:52,271 --> 00:22:53,705 Bailiff: Keep it down. 388 00:22:53,739 --> 00:22:55,283 Your Honor, I intend to submit written motions... 389 00:22:55,307 --> 00:22:57,299 Be my guest. Anything further, Mr. Robinette? 390 00:22:57,343 --> 00:22:59,054 The people ask that Mr. Williams be remanded without bail 391 00:22:59,078 --> 00:23:01,673 to an appropriate juvenile facility, pending trial. 392 00:23:01,714 --> 00:23:04,047 So ordered. Case transferred to Supreme Court. 393 00:23:04,083 --> 00:23:05,346 This is jive! 394 00:23:05,384 --> 00:23:07,649 I didn't murder nobody! It's a set-up! 395 00:23:07,686 --> 00:23:10,178 Judge: Restrain your client or the court officers will. 396 00:23:10,222 --> 00:23:12,555 You going to stand there?! It's a set-up. 397 00:23:13,792 --> 00:23:15,226 Get off me! 398 00:23:15,261 --> 00:23:17,253 Listen, Stone, this kid didn't do it. 399 00:23:17,296 --> 00:23:19,060 I understand you're getting a lot of heat... 400 00:23:19,098 --> 00:23:21,363 Knock of the sermon, Alex. Your client had the gun. 401 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,959 The judge's decision is unwarranted. 402 00:23:23,002 --> 00:23:25,631 Mr. Williams was out in front at the time of the murder. 403 00:23:25,671 --> 00:23:28,038 An eyewitness who can see in the dark? Very compelling. 404 00:23:28,073 --> 00:23:30,235 The stoop was well lit. Tonel saw somebody else. 405 00:23:30,276 --> 00:23:32,245 He won't be testifying against me. 406 00:23:32,278 --> 00:23:35,180 For your sake, young man, I hope you didn't threaten him. 407 00:23:35,214 --> 00:23:36,876 Alex: What are we talking about? 408 00:23:36,916 --> 00:23:39,886 He pleads as an accessory to manslaughter two. 409 00:23:39,919 --> 00:23:41,820 He gives us the shooter. 410 00:23:43,756 --> 00:23:45,748 I was at my Aunt Cecile's in Carolina. 411 00:23:45,791 --> 00:23:47,623 Wasn't nowhere near New York City. 412 00:23:47,660 --> 00:23:49,788 Cut the crap, Dizz. 413 00:23:49,828 --> 00:23:52,024 The police in Charleston talked to a guy named Summers. 414 00:23:52,064 --> 00:23:54,659 Who? The guy who put you on the train to New York City... 415 00:23:54,700 --> 00:23:56,134 Four days before the murder. 416 00:23:59,939 --> 00:24:01,703 Who shot the baby? 417 00:24:04,209 --> 00:24:06,303 Dude named T-Ball. 418 00:24:06,345 --> 00:24:07,938 T-Ball Howard. 419 00:24:07,980 --> 00:24:09,505 Real name? 420 00:24:09,548 --> 00:24:11,073 Franklin. 421 00:24:11,116 --> 00:24:13,415 Come to me and said he needed a burner. For what? 422 00:24:13,452 --> 00:24:15,250 A job, man. 423 00:24:15,287 --> 00:24:17,279 Says this job was worth 500. 424 00:24:17,323 --> 00:24:19,315 So I borrowed the burner from Roneld. 425 00:24:19,358 --> 00:24:22,089 Roneld let you borrow a gun worth $1500? 426 00:24:22,127 --> 00:24:23,720 Who hired your friend to do the job? 427 00:24:23,762 --> 00:24:26,857 He didn't tell me. Just said he needed the gun. 428 00:24:28,901 --> 00:24:30,369 And then what? 429 00:24:30,402 --> 00:24:32,098 I rented it from Roneld for 100, 430 00:24:32,137 --> 00:24:33,901 charged T-ball 200. 431 00:24:33,939 --> 00:24:36,807 I didn't shoot that baby, man. 432 00:24:36,842 --> 00:24:38,401 T-Ball did. 433 00:24:42,748 --> 00:24:44,580 Robinette: That T-Ball? 434 00:25:16,882 --> 00:25:18,646 Five minutes, Counselor. 435 00:25:18,684 --> 00:25:20,277 Then I want him alone. 436 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,846 I told you, I never been on Jacobs Place. 437 00:25:23,889 --> 00:25:25,755 And I'll bet you never rented a Tec-9. 438 00:25:25,791 --> 00:25:28,260 Tec-9? What's that, mouthwash? 439 00:25:28,293 --> 00:25:30,421 Who ordered the hit, T-Ball? 440 00:25:33,899 --> 00:25:35,868 That's right, genius. 441 00:25:35,901 --> 00:25:39,338 Your buddy Dizz told us the whole story. 442 00:25:39,371 --> 00:25:41,567 And he's going to repeat it in court. 443 00:25:48,247 --> 00:25:51,183 Why don't you let me talk with my client? 444 00:25:51,216 --> 00:25:53,708 The Howard kid'll roll. He's got no choice. 445 00:25:53,752 --> 00:25:55,797 Logan: You better hope you're right, 'cause we still ain't got 446 00:25:55,821 --> 00:25:57,983 idea one why he shot the Winters boys. 447 00:25:58,023 --> 00:26:01,084 Anything else on T-Ball? 448 00:26:01,126 --> 00:26:04,221 He's 14 years old, lives with his mother and two-year-old brother, 449 00:26:04,263 --> 00:26:05,492 no gang affiliation. 450 00:26:05,531 --> 00:26:07,329 He even know Gregory Winters? 451 00:26:07,366 --> 00:26:09,733 There's no indications. 452 00:26:09,768 --> 00:26:11,703 The Winters kid been upgraded yet? 453 00:26:11,737 --> 00:26:14,434 Yeah, he regained consciousness last night. 454 00:26:17,042 --> 00:26:18,203 Franklin Howard? 455 00:26:18,243 --> 00:26:19,734 Tall guy, thin. 456 00:26:19,778 --> 00:26:21,178 Sure you don't know him? 457 00:26:21,213 --> 00:26:24,047 I don't know him. 458 00:26:26,752 --> 00:26:28,448 Sorry. 459 00:26:28,554 --> 00:26:30,750 These things have to be asked. 460 00:26:32,891 --> 00:26:34,257 How do you feel? 461 00:26:39,298 --> 00:26:41,267 Okay. 462 00:26:42,835 --> 00:26:44,997 Thanks, Gregory. 463 00:26:47,406 --> 00:26:49,170 Excuse me. 464 00:26:56,515 --> 00:27:00,509 Why do you people insist on blaming my boy? 465 00:27:00,552 --> 00:27:02,111 I'm sorry. 466 00:27:02,154 --> 00:27:04,385 He doesn't know these boys. 467 00:27:04,423 --> 00:27:06,824 He didn't do anything to cause them 468 00:27:06,859 --> 00:27:09,351 to shoot up the apartment. 469 00:27:09,394 --> 00:27:10,885 I know. 470 00:27:17,536 --> 00:27:19,835 Lawyer: Ben. 471 00:27:19,872 --> 00:27:22,706 Mr. Howard understands you can convict him. 472 00:27:22,741 --> 00:27:24,869 He's ready to deal. I thought he might be. 473 00:27:24,910 --> 00:27:27,021 He names the buyer of the hit, but he gets tried as a juvenile. 474 00:27:27,045 --> 00:27:28,570 Not a prayer. I know he's... 475 00:27:28,614 --> 00:27:31,243 We're in an epidemic, Brian. He killed a baby, 476 00:27:31,283 --> 00:27:32,876 the older brother's a paraplegic. 477 00:27:32,918 --> 00:27:34,750 It was a mistake. You want to explain that? 478 00:27:34,786 --> 00:27:36,516 Look, just make me an offer. 479 00:27:36,555 --> 00:27:38,023 Why? 480 00:27:38,056 --> 00:27:41,424 Trust me, Ben, you make a deal, you'll want the result. 481 00:27:41,460 --> 00:27:42,519 As in? 482 00:27:42,561 --> 00:27:44,655 As in you get a major dealer off the streets. 483 00:27:45,664 --> 00:27:47,132 T-Ball's just a soldier. 484 00:27:47,166 --> 00:27:49,863 He can give you the general. 485 00:27:49,902 --> 00:27:53,771 Manslaughter one, he gets sentenced in Supreme Court, 486 00:27:53,805 --> 00:27:55,774 and he does the youthful offender maximum. 487 00:27:55,807 --> 00:27:57,318 Deal. I do this plea and you're throwing curves... 488 00:27:57,342 --> 00:27:59,709 Believe me, you won't regret it. 489 00:28:01,113 --> 00:28:04,015 Stone: I know they're screaming for this kid's head, Adam, 490 00:28:04,049 --> 00:28:06,746 but they're better off if we put away the dealer. 491 00:28:06,785 --> 00:28:08,617 I want 'em both. I want everyone. 492 00:28:08,654 --> 00:28:10,987 I want the kid who gave him the gun, 493 00:28:11,023 --> 00:28:14,187 I want the kid who pulled the trigger and this pusher. 494 00:28:14,226 --> 00:28:17,492 So do I, but if we don't get the guy who gave the order, 495 00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:19,395 we have more crack, more contract killings, 496 00:28:19,431 --> 00:28:20,660 more dead kids. 497 00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:22,258 What are they asking for? 498 00:28:22,301 --> 00:28:25,362 Man one. T-Ball gets three and a third to 10, 499 00:28:25,404 --> 00:28:26,838 he does the whole 10. 500 00:28:26,872 --> 00:28:28,670 He's not going to boarding school. 501 00:28:28,707 --> 00:28:31,108 You and I wouldn't last 10 minutes in there. 502 00:28:31,143 --> 00:28:32,907 You sure this pays off? 503 00:28:32,945 --> 00:28:35,437 I think I can trust Doxsee. 504 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,846 You think? 505 00:28:38,550 --> 00:28:40,815 I can't afford not to. 506 00:28:42,054 --> 00:28:44,546 He said he needed to get rid of a business problem. 507 00:28:44,590 --> 00:28:46,650 Stone: Somebody burn him on a drug deal? 508 00:28:46,692 --> 00:28:48,456 It was real estate. 509 00:28:48,493 --> 00:28:50,928 Said it was 300 large. 510 00:28:54,366 --> 00:28:56,562 Had you ever met Ingrams before? 511 00:28:56,602 --> 00:28:58,901 I've done some little jobs for him. 512 00:28:58,937 --> 00:29:00,929 No hits. 513 00:29:00,973 --> 00:29:03,533 When I heard about this one, I thought, 514 00:29:03,575 --> 00:29:05,373 "If I had a gun..." 515 00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:07,970 But you didn't know a baby was behind the door? 516 00:29:08,013 --> 00:29:09,777 That's why I'm talking to you, man. 517 00:29:09,815 --> 00:29:11,750 I didn't know. 518 00:29:11,783 --> 00:29:15,811 Ingrams gives me the address of this guy he wants me to do... 519 00:29:15,854 --> 00:29:18,016 Mr. Kay. 520 00:29:18,056 --> 00:29:20,048 I'm supposed to go air out his crib. 521 00:29:20,092 --> 00:29:22,027 So I go over there, 522 00:29:22,060 --> 00:29:23,961 hear some voices inside, 523 00:29:23,996 --> 00:29:26,227 but I... 524 00:29:26,265 --> 00:29:28,734 just must've gone to the wrong place. 525 00:29:28,767 --> 00:29:30,702 You thought a real estate tycoon 526 00:29:30,736 --> 00:29:32,329 lived in the Winters' building? 527 00:29:32,371 --> 00:29:36,103 Like I told you... a mistake. Robinette: What'd you do with the address? 528 00:29:36,141 --> 00:29:38,372 I threw it away after the... 529 00:29:38,410 --> 00:29:40,436 Thing went down. 530 00:29:44,816 --> 00:29:46,808 "This guy he wants me to do." 531 00:29:46,852 --> 00:29:48,320 It's not enough. 532 00:29:48,353 --> 00:29:51,323 It would be, if we could connect Ingrams with the mythical Mr. Kay. 533 00:29:51,356 --> 00:29:53,188 You want me to have Ingrams brought in? 534 00:29:53,225 --> 00:29:56,525 Why? Have him go through the motions of denying it? 535 00:29:56,561 --> 00:29:59,554 You think it's K like Murray the K, or K-A-Y, or...? 536 00:29:59,598 --> 00:30:01,191 Or Kaye with an E. 537 00:30:01,233 --> 00:30:04,101 There couldn't be more than a thousand variations in New York City. 538 00:30:07,306 --> 00:30:10,936 That's K-A-Y-E. Five boroughs. 539 00:30:10,976 --> 00:30:13,172 This must be 500 more names. 540 00:30:14,413 --> 00:30:16,006 What do you want me to do? 541 00:30:19,418 --> 00:30:20,886 Start with Manhattan. 542 00:30:29,261 --> 00:30:32,459 Someone was hired to kill a "Mr. Kay." 543 00:30:32,497 --> 00:30:35,899 The hit man went to 315 Jacobs Place. 544 00:30:35,934 --> 00:30:38,199 You live at 315 Jameson Place. 545 00:30:40,072 --> 00:30:41,563 So? 546 00:30:43,275 --> 00:30:45,107 My husband and I are active 547 00:30:45,143 --> 00:30:47,578 in the Reform Democrats, Mr. Robinette. 548 00:30:47,612 --> 00:30:51,413 We helped found the Carnegie Hill Alternative School. 549 00:30:51,450 --> 00:30:54,716 We were once mentioned in passing on page six, 550 00:30:54,753 --> 00:30:58,349 but I doubt any of that qualifies us for assassination. 551 00:30:59,524 --> 00:31:01,823 What kind of work does your husband do, Mrs. Kay? 552 00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:03,385 Real estate. 553 00:31:04,730 --> 00:31:08,098 What, he's guilty of gentrification? 554 00:31:08,133 --> 00:31:11,467 I'm afraid it's going to be much worse than that. 555 00:31:16,074 --> 00:31:17,906 A month ago... 556 00:31:18,910 --> 00:31:21,379 Edward M. Kay deposited 300,000 557 00:31:21,413 --> 00:31:24,042 into his corporate checking account. 558 00:31:24,082 --> 00:31:26,608 But he hasn't made a sale since August. 559 00:31:26,651 --> 00:31:29,815 And the kid who did the hit said he mentioned 300,000. 560 00:31:29,855 --> 00:31:32,950 Kay fronted as a buyer of an apartment for Ingrams. 561 00:31:32,991 --> 00:31:34,721 300,000 cash. 562 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,320 It comes to closing, Kay doesn't show up with the money. 563 00:31:37,362 --> 00:31:39,558 He stiffed him, Adam. Stiffed a drug dealer. 564 00:31:39,598 --> 00:31:41,294 There's your motive. 565 00:31:41,333 --> 00:31:42,893 And the kid shot up the wrong apartment. 566 00:31:42,934 --> 00:31:44,562 Unbelievable. 567 00:31:44,603 --> 00:31:46,401 The Winters baby is dead 568 00:31:46,438 --> 00:31:49,101 'cause a 14-year-old hit man went to the wrong place. 569 00:31:49,141 --> 00:31:51,337 Do you understand these people? 570 00:31:51,376 --> 00:31:53,936 They live better than 99% of humanity, 571 00:31:53,979 --> 00:31:55,971 and they have to steal from drug dealers. 572 00:31:56,014 --> 00:31:58,025 Ingrams will go up for murder, one way or the other. 573 00:31:58,049 --> 00:32:00,848 If Mr. Kay decides to testify. 574 00:32:00,886 --> 00:32:03,412 Real estate fraud... Not much to work with. 575 00:32:03,455 --> 00:32:05,151 Maybe Kay has a conscience. 576 00:32:05,190 --> 00:32:08,558 Yeah, maybe he houses the homeless in his basement, but I wouldn't count on it. 577 00:32:10,929 --> 00:32:14,058 I sold a nice two-bedroom on West End Avenue 578 00:32:14,099 --> 00:32:17,126 to a young black man. That's a crime? 579 00:32:17,169 --> 00:32:19,570 When you steal his money it is. 580 00:32:19,604 --> 00:32:22,972 What stealing? We had a little problem with the closing papers. 581 00:32:23,008 --> 00:32:24,704 You know, this Chamber of Commerce routine 582 00:32:24,743 --> 00:32:27,440 is getting on my nerves. In 1986 you were arrested 583 00:32:27,479 --> 00:32:30,779 for cocaine possession. Ingrams your dealer? 584 00:32:30,816 --> 00:32:33,445 An arrest with no conviction is not relevant here. 585 00:32:33,485 --> 00:32:35,579 It isn't? 586 00:32:38,256 --> 00:32:41,021 You do a little coke, you figure, what the hell? 587 00:32:41,059 --> 00:32:42,755 It's a victimless crime. 588 00:32:42,794 --> 00:32:46,356 And you use drug money to buy real estate. 589 00:32:47,933 --> 00:32:49,367 You think that makes it clean? 590 00:32:49,401 --> 00:32:51,063 Look, I... 591 00:32:51,102 --> 00:32:54,266 An 11-month-old baby died because of your sins, Mr. Kay. 592 00:32:56,408 --> 00:32:58,900 Lawyer: If you want to talk about his testimony... 593 00:32:58,944 --> 00:33:01,379 What did you do with the $300,000? 594 00:33:03,048 --> 00:33:06,018 You didn't cheat some yuppie banker. 595 00:33:06,051 --> 00:33:09,488 Mr. Ingrams... he doesn't sue, he hires a hit man. 596 00:33:12,524 --> 00:33:14,993 You haven't mentioned any incentives 597 00:33:15,026 --> 00:33:17,018 for cooperation. 598 00:33:18,463 --> 00:33:20,728 No? 599 00:33:20,765 --> 00:33:22,825 How is this? 600 00:33:22,868 --> 00:33:26,202 If your client doesn't start talking now, 601 00:33:26,238 --> 00:33:28,469 I'll tear his life apart. 602 00:33:28,507 --> 00:33:30,305 Real estate boards, 603 00:33:30,342 --> 00:33:32,811 clients, skeletons in the closet... 604 00:33:33,845 --> 00:33:36,314 Light of day, guaranteed. 605 00:33:48,860 --> 00:33:52,456 Ingrams came to me with 300,000 he wanted cleaned. 606 00:33:53,765 --> 00:33:56,894 I was in the middle of a redevelopment project 607 00:33:56,935 --> 00:33:59,632 that was dying for an infusion of cash. 608 00:33:59,671 --> 00:34:01,264 So you used Ingrams' money. 609 00:34:01,306 --> 00:34:02,831 I thought I could turn it around, 610 00:34:02,874 --> 00:34:04,843 get his money in and out quickly. 611 00:34:06,378 --> 00:34:08,244 The market went soft. 612 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,875 The lenders foreclosed on the project. 613 00:34:10,916 --> 00:34:14,080 And the $300,000 went to them. 614 00:34:16,721 --> 00:34:18,587 Did Ingrams threaten you? 615 00:34:20,091 --> 00:34:21,821 Oh, no. 616 00:34:21,860 --> 00:34:23,761 No, no. 617 00:34:25,230 --> 00:34:28,257 I point my finger at him, I'm dead. 618 00:34:28,300 --> 00:34:30,292 If you help us out, we'll put him away. 619 00:34:30,335 --> 00:34:31,803 And if you don't? 620 00:34:31,836 --> 00:34:34,431 And if you don't testify, 621 00:34:34,472 --> 00:34:36,202 he'll get you... sooner or later. 622 00:34:36,241 --> 00:34:38,733 I'd rather it was later. 623 00:34:40,478 --> 00:34:42,174 You made your pitch, Mr. Stone. 624 00:34:45,417 --> 00:34:47,249 And it didn't get through? 625 00:34:47,285 --> 00:34:50,813 I'd rather go to a loan shark for the 300 grand 626 00:34:50,855 --> 00:34:53,324 than take on Michael Ingrams. 627 00:35:00,131 --> 00:35:02,498 Robinette: Pick Ingrams up. We have enough to charge him. 628 00:35:02,534 --> 00:35:05,003 Without Kay's testimony? Come on, Paul. 629 00:35:05,036 --> 00:35:06,902 Ingrams is a maggot. We can crush him. 630 00:35:06,938 --> 00:35:08,634 He doesn't know Kay won't testify. 631 00:35:08,673 --> 00:35:10,785 We get him to plead manslaughter, he's off the street. 632 00:35:10,809 --> 00:35:13,210 At least Kay lives long enough to change his mind. 633 00:35:14,546 --> 00:35:16,447 Sold. 634 00:35:16,481 --> 00:35:19,508 Bailiff: The people versus Michael Ingrams. 635 00:35:19,551 --> 00:35:22,544 The charges are: murder in the second degree; 636 00:35:22,587 --> 00:35:24,988 manslaughter in the first degree; 637 00:35:25,023 --> 00:35:27,754 attempted murder in the second degree; 638 00:35:27,792 --> 00:35:30,227 and assault in the first degree. 639 00:35:30,261 --> 00:35:32,162 How does the defendant plead? 640 00:35:32,197 --> 00:35:33,722 Not guilty. 641 00:35:33,765 --> 00:35:35,666 On all counts, Your Honor. 642 00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:37,362 I'm serving grand jury notice 643 00:35:37,402 --> 00:35:38,961 upon defense counsel, Your Honor. 644 00:35:39,004 --> 00:35:42,532 Do the People wish to be heard on bail, Mr. Robinette? 645 00:35:42,574 --> 00:35:46,705 Your Honor, as a multiple prior felony offender, 646 00:35:46,745 --> 00:35:49,874 and a convicted narcotics trafficker, 647 00:35:49,914 --> 00:35:52,213 Mr. Ingrams faces mandatory life. 648 00:35:52,250 --> 00:35:55,414 The People request he be held without bail. 649 00:35:57,422 --> 00:35:59,414 Well, Counselor, I believe a high bail 650 00:35:59,457 --> 00:36:01,289 is appropriate in this case. Name a figure. 651 00:36:01,326 --> 00:36:04,194 The people ask $1 million, Your Honor. 652 00:36:04,229 --> 00:36:06,061 So ordered. 653 00:36:12,871 --> 00:36:15,340 You wanted the whole package, Adam. We delivered. 654 00:36:15,373 --> 00:36:17,035 So far. 655 00:36:17,075 --> 00:36:19,203 But if this Ingrams hood walks on a technicality, 656 00:36:19,244 --> 00:36:21,736 all your good work is bupkis. 657 00:36:21,780 --> 00:36:23,510 Offer him man two. 658 00:36:23,548 --> 00:36:26,727 He engineered the death of an infant, for heaven's sake. People will be outraged. 659 00:36:26,751 --> 00:36:28,549 The people will forget this outrage 660 00:36:28,586 --> 00:36:31,556 as soon as the next outrage hits the front page. 661 00:36:31,589 --> 00:36:34,855 The Winters boy isn't the only innocent victim in New York City. 662 00:36:34,893 --> 00:36:38,989 Man two, then go for the maximum at sentencing. 663 00:36:47,072 --> 00:36:49,371 Forget it, Stone. 664 00:36:49,407 --> 00:36:52,104 You don't come running with your hat in your hand 665 00:36:52,143 --> 00:36:53,577 from a position of strength. 666 00:36:53,611 --> 00:36:55,944 You call this a position of strength, Counselor? 667 00:36:55,980 --> 00:36:59,144 We're offering a deal so we can wrap this up, 668 00:36:59,184 --> 00:37:01,244 but if you want to play games... 669 00:37:01,286 --> 00:37:04,120 What games? You got the unsubstantiated testimony 670 00:37:04,155 --> 00:37:06,784 of a little psycho who can't shoot straight. 671 00:37:06,825 --> 00:37:09,317 Let's get something straight here, Mr. Stone. 672 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,625 I'm not in short pants. 673 00:37:11,663 --> 00:37:14,258 T-Ball's testimony isn't enough to convict me. 674 00:37:14,299 --> 00:37:17,030 Probably not. But Ned Kay's will. 675 00:37:17,068 --> 00:37:19,537 Ned Kay? 676 00:37:21,940 --> 00:37:23,806 He won't mess with my thing. 677 00:37:25,410 --> 00:37:27,038 I'm going back to my cell. 678 00:37:36,621 --> 00:37:38,817 Okay, so it's not an even bet. 679 00:37:38,857 --> 00:37:41,520 Even? I wouldn't give you 20 to one. 680 00:37:41,559 --> 00:37:42,891 So Kay stole his money, 681 00:37:42,927 --> 00:37:44,862 but does a jury believe he'd kill him? 682 00:37:44,896 --> 00:37:46,330 Ingrams is a drug dealer. 683 00:37:46,364 --> 00:37:49,266 He doesn't look like a drug dealer. 684 00:37:50,401 --> 00:37:52,393 You want me not to go to trial? 685 00:37:52,437 --> 00:37:54,702 Mr. Kay is still a question mark. 686 00:37:54,739 --> 00:37:56,867 What have you got on his finances? 687 00:37:56,908 --> 00:37:58,536 Is there a federal tax charge? 688 00:38:00,178 --> 00:38:01,737 The IRS. 689 00:38:03,348 --> 00:38:05,817 Uh-uh, we do not let tax evaders walk. 690 00:38:05,850 --> 00:38:07,716 If it's major fraud, he goes to jail. 691 00:38:07,752 --> 00:38:09,597 Come on, Sam, you can still make an example of him. 692 00:38:09,621 --> 00:38:11,886 No, never. Forget about it. Go away. 693 00:38:11,923 --> 00:38:13,687 Take his money, put him in the poorhouse, 694 00:38:13,725 --> 00:38:16,194 treble penalties, but don't send him to jail. 695 00:38:16,227 --> 00:38:17,661 What do you get? 696 00:38:17,695 --> 00:38:19,960 A dealer and a killer off the street. 697 00:38:21,566 --> 00:38:23,364 Okay, 698 00:38:23,401 --> 00:38:25,961 but I want it in writing in letters eight feet high. 699 00:38:26,004 --> 00:38:28,769 When they go for my neck, I want yours in the noose with me. 700 00:38:30,909 --> 00:38:34,937 Tax fraud, Mr. Morton, and your client goes away for 10 years. 701 00:38:36,047 --> 00:38:39,108 10 years in a federal country club? 702 00:38:39,150 --> 00:38:42,484 I can work on my tennis game. It's better than being dead. 703 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,979 Suppose I convince the IRS not to prosecute? 704 00:38:50,795 --> 00:38:53,458 I'll bite. Suppose you do? 705 00:38:53,498 --> 00:38:55,330 They take every dime, 706 00:38:55,366 --> 00:38:58,234 you don't even keep the dishwasher. 707 00:38:58,269 --> 00:39:01,068 But if you testify, you can move to Nebraska 708 00:39:01,105 --> 00:39:02,835 the day the trial is over. 709 00:39:03,842 --> 00:39:06,038 You son of a bitch. 710 00:39:07,212 --> 00:39:08,680 You set this up. 711 00:39:08,713 --> 00:39:11,842 The deal is good for 15 seconds. 712 00:39:16,254 --> 00:39:18,723 I keep the house in Sag Harbor. 713 00:39:18,756 --> 00:39:21,157 No, you don't. 714 00:39:21,192 --> 00:39:22,854 10 seconds. 715 00:39:23,995 --> 00:39:25,395 The Mercedes. 716 00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:27,296 They take the Mercedes. 717 00:39:27,332 --> 00:39:28,994 Five seconds. 718 00:39:46,351 --> 00:39:49,617 When you told Mr. Ingrams that you were unable to return his money, 719 00:39:49,654 --> 00:39:51,520 how did he respond? 720 00:39:51,556 --> 00:39:54,185 He indicated he would kill me. 721 00:39:54,225 --> 00:39:56,717 Objection. Indicated? 722 00:39:56,761 --> 00:39:59,697 When Mr. Kay continues, I think you'll find it admissible, Your Honor. 723 00:39:59,731 --> 00:40:01,632 I'll allow it. Go ahead, Mr. Stone. 724 00:40:01,666 --> 00:40:04,534 How did he indicate it, Mr. Kay? 725 00:40:07,071 --> 00:40:09,905 He said he would have my place aired out. 726 00:40:11,409 --> 00:40:12,775 No further questions. 727 00:40:17,081 --> 00:40:19,676 Mr. Kay, you testified Mr. Ingrams said 728 00:40:19,717 --> 00:40:21,208 he'd air your place out. 729 00:40:21,252 --> 00:40:23,030 Could he have meant he'd break all your windows? 730 00:40:23,054 --> 00:40:26,081 Don't be ridiculous. Please just stick to yes or no. 731 00:40:26,124 --> 00:40:28,855 This cash you allege came from the defendant... 732 00:40:28,893 --> 00:40:30,225 You said you used it to bail out 733 00:40:30,261 --> 00:40:31,923 one of your own projects, is that right? 734 00:40:31,963 --> 00:40:33,295 Yes. 735 00:40:33,331 --> 00:40:36,824 Well? Did you? 736 00:40:36,868 --> 00:40:40,430 Yes. At least, I tried, but... 737 00:40:40,471 --> 00:40:42,337 But what? 738 00:40:46,010 --> 00:40:48,570 Did your habit interfere with business, Mr. Kay? 739 00:40:48,613 --> 00:40:49,774 Objection, Your Honor. 740 00:40:49,814 --> 00:40:51,749 Sidebar, Your Honor. 741 00:40:53,017 --> 00:40:54,747 What's this about? 742 00:40:54,786 --> 00:40:58,723 I'm going to impeach his credibility, Judge. 743 00:40:58,756 --> 00:41:00,190 He's a cocaine user. 744 00:41:00,224 --> 00:41:03,456 Your Honor, the People are aware of Mr. Kay's '86 arrest, 745 00:41:03,494 --> 00:41:05,690 but he was not convicted. It's not relevant. 746 00:41:05,730 --> 00:41:06,857 It's not admissible. 747 00:41:06,898 --> 00:41:08,867 Do you have an offer of proof, Counselor? 748 00:41:08,900 --> 00:41:11,096 Why don't we just go to the record? 749 00:41:15,907 --> 00:41:17,432 Mr. Stone. 750 00:41:22,647 --> 00:41:24,343 Judge: Go ahead, Mr. Anson. 751 00:41:24,382 --> 00:41:25,441 Mr. Kay, 752 00:41:25,483 --> 00:41:30,012 under the name Edward M. Kayman... 753 00:41:30,054 --> 00:41:32,421 you were convicted 754 00:41:32,457 --> 00:41:34,483 of possession of a controlled substance 755 00:41:34,525 --> 00:41:37,927 in the state of Connecticut in 1984? 756 00:41:42,266 --> 00:41:46,203 In fact, it was cocaine, was it not? 757 00:41:49,540 --> 00:41:51,771 Answer the question, Mr. Kay. 758 00:41:53,211 --> 00:41:55,180 Yes. 759 00:41:55,213 --> 00:41:57,580 And then later you legally changed your name 760 00:41:57,615 --> 00:41:59,709 to Ned Kay, didn't you? 761 00:41:59,784 --> 00:42:01,776 Yes. 762 00:42:03,388 --> 00:42:07,223 Do you still use cocaine, Mr. Kay? 763 00:42:09,927 --> 00:42:11,987 I respectfully 764 00:42:12,030 --> 00:42:14,864 refuse to answer on the... 765 00:42:14,899 --> 00:42:16,561 Are you invoking the Fifth Amendment 766 00:42:16,601 --> 00:42:18,627 against self-incrimination? 767 00:42:18,669 --> 00:42:20,570 Yes, sir. 768 00:42:20,605 --> 00:42:22,767 Did you pay for cocaine 769 00:42:22,807 --> 00:42:25,572 out of any of the $300,000 770 00:42:25,610 --> 00:42:28,136 that you stole from Mr. Ingrams? 771 00:42:28,179 --> 00:42:31,513 I respectfully refuse to answer for the same reason. 772 00:42:31,549 --> 00:42:34,018 You refuse to answer. 773 00:42:35,620 --> 00:42:37,521 But you expect us to believe 774 00:42:37,555 --> 00:42:40,024 that Mr. Ingrams threatened to kill you. 775 00:42:40,058 --> 00:42:42,118 Objection, Your Honor. Sustained. 776 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,220 The jury will disregard that remark. 777 00:42:44,262 --> 00:42:46,356 No further questions. 778 00:42:51,335 --> 00:42:55,796 So after Mr. Ingrams told you to air out the dude's crib, what did you do? 779 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,571 I went up on the roof and smoked some weed. 780 00:42:58,609 --> 00:43:00,339 Then I got the gun from my stash. 781 00:43:00,378 --> 00:43:01,812 Which was where? 782 00:43:01,846 --> 00:43:03,815 In my locker in school. 783 00:43:03,848 --> 00:43:05,111 In school. 784 00:43:06,717 --> 00:43:09,277 And you rented this gun from Dizz Williams, right? 785 00:43:10,888 --> 00:43:12,720 Then what did you do? 786 00:43:12,757 --> 00:43:14,726 T-Ball: I smoked a little more weed, 787 00:43:14,759 --> 00:43:17,786 then I went over to do the dude. 788 00:43:17,829 --> 00:43:19,991 Which was supposed to be 789 00:43:20,031 --> 00:43:22,227 315 Jameson Place. 790 00:43:22,266 --> 00:43:24,132 Now you knew that 791 00:43:24,168 --> 00:43:26,899 because Michael Ingrams 792 00:43:26,938 --> 00:43:28,770 wrote it out for you, is that true? 793 00:43:28,806 --> 00:43:30,206 Yes. 794 00:43:30,241 --> 00:43:34,645 And why did you go to 315 Jacobs Place? 795 00:43:36,814 --> 00:43:39,374 Answer the question, Mr. Howard. 796 00:43:39,417 --> 00:43:42,285 It was a mistake. 797 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,347 This is the correct address. 798 00:43:46,457 --> 00:43:48,790 Would you read that out to the court, please? 799 00:43:49,927 --> 00:43:52,226 "315 800 00:43:52,263 --> 00:43:53,788 Jameson Place." 801 00:43:53,831 --> 00:43:55,231 Right. 802 00:43:55,266 --> 00:43:56,962 Now would you read this? 803 00:43:59,203 --> 00:44:01,798 Objection. Relevance, Your Honor. 804 00:44:01,839 --> 00:44:03,967 It goes to the factual elements 805 00:44:04,008 --> 00:44:05,442 of the crime charged, Your Honor. 806 00:44:05,476 --> 00:44:07,308 I'll allow it. 807 00:44:07,345 --> 00:44:09,439 Just read the police report. 808 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,540 You don't have to read the big legal words, 809 00:44:11,582 --> 00:44:14,347 just give us the easy ones. 810 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,822 Mr. Howard? 811 00:44:27,899 --> 00:44:30,164 You can't read, can you? 812 00:44:36,107 --> 00:44:38,269 You can't read anything. 813 00:44:39,577 --> 00:44:41,409 No. 814 00:44:52,657 --> 00:44:54,558 No further questions. 815 00:45:00,798 --> 00:45:03,427 Gregory Winters is a victim. 816 00:45:03,467 --> 00:45:06,437 His mother Denise Winters is a victim as well. 817 00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:08,268 And to a lesser extent, 818 00:45:08,306 --> 00:45:10,172 Franklin "T-Ball" Howard 819 00:45:10,208 --> 00:45:11,801 is a victim, too. 820 00:45:11,842 --> 00:45:14,004 A victim of circumstance, 821 00:45:14,045 --> 00:45:17,015 in which he learned how to fire a deadly weapon 822 00:45:17,048 --> 00:45:19,142 before he learned to read. 823 00:45:20,184 --> 00:45:22,483 Then, of course, there is Andrew Winters, 824 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,684 who would have celebrated his first birthday 825 00:45:25,723 --> 00:45:27,385 not long ago. 826 00:45:27,425 --> 00:45:29,326 Now, 827 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,420 maybe we've all become so accustomed 828 00:45:31,462 --> 00:45:33,226 to slaughter in our streets, 829 00:45:33,264 --> 00:45:35,290 in the subways, and our homes... 830 00:45:36,434 --> 00:45:38,528 that it takes the killing of a baby 831 00:45:38,569 --> 00:45:40,401 to snap us out of it. 832 00:45:40,438 --> 00:45:42,236 I don't know. 833 00:45:42,273 --> 00:45:45,539 What I do know is that when Michael Ingrams 834 00:45:45,576 --> 00:45:48,045 ordered the contract killing of Ned Kay, 835 00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:50,571 he was ordering the killing of Andrew Winters. 836 00:45:51,849 --> 00:45:54,580 And it doesn't matter that the wrong person was hit... 837 00:45:56,754 --> 00:45:59,246 Michael Ingrams' intent was to kill. 838 00:46:00,191 --> 00:46:04,026 And legally, intent follows the bullet. 839 00:46:05,096 --> 00:46:06,564 In the eyes of the law, 840 00:46:06,597 --> 00:46:08,759 Michael Ingrams is guilty of murder. 841 00:46:09,867 --> 00:46:11,529 In the eyes of society, 842 00:46:11,569 --> 00:46:13,094 he is guilty 843 00:46:13,137 --> 00:46:15,072 of the slaughter of an innocent. 844 00:46:21,312 --> 00:46:24,111 Mr. Stone, do you think the murder conviction 845 00:46:24,148 --> 00:46:25,582 will stand on appeal? 846 00:46:25,616 --> 00:46:27,710 Absolutely. There's no reversible error here. 847 00:46:27,752 --> 00:46:29,830 Michael Ingrams is as guilty of killing that little boy 848 00:46:29,854 --> 00:46:31,914 as if he'd pulled the trigger himself. 849 00:46:35,393 --> 00:46:37,191 Mrs. Winters, 850 00:46:37,228 --> 00:46:40,164 were you satisfied with today's verdict? 851 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,530 I'm thinking, 852 00:46:44,568 --> 00:46:48,027 what about the boy who did pull the trigger? 853 00:46:48,072 --> 00:46:51,065 He'll be back out in seven years. 854 00:46:52,176 --> 00:46:54,771 My baby would have been eight years old then. 855 00:46:55,980 --> 00:46:58,245 Would you be satisfied?61577

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