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[dramatic music playing]

[crowd cheering]

Michael!
Michael! Michael!

[dramatic music playing]

[phone rings]

[operator]
...what is your emergency?

[caller] Yes, sir,
I need to-- I, uh,

I need an ambulance
as soon as possible, sir,

I have-- We have a gentleman
here that needs help,

and he's stopped breathing.

[dramatic music playing]

[Scott] You're talking
about Michael Jackson here.

It was absolutely huge.

[Orlando]
There was a lot of pressure

to get it right.

[suspenseful music playing]

This isn't a man
who should have died.

[caller] He's stopped breathing,
he's not breathing,

and we need to--
we're trying to pump him,

-but he's not-- he's not--
-[operator] Okay.

Okay, how old is he?

[caller] He's, uh,
50 years old, sir.

[operator] Fifty? Okay.

He's unconscious,
he's not breathing?

[caller]
Yes, he's not breathing.

[Richard]
When we were dispatched

to a 50-year-old male,
cardiac arrest,

we think,
"This is a viable patient."

"This is someone if we get to
in a timely manner we can save."

And then,
when I enter this room,

opulent room,
with medical equipment in it,

I realize there's something
unusual here.

What 50-year-old male
would be laying in bed at noon

with medical equipment?

We're not looking at the patient
at that moment.

Till my partner did.

He looked up
and whispered the name,

Michael Jackson.

When I realized who it was,

I was surprised.

We had no idea he was there.
None of us had any idea

he was living
in our neighborhood.

[operator]
Um...[clears throat]

Where did-- Did anybody witness what happened?

[caller]
Um, no, just the doctor, sir.

There was a man with our patient

who identified himself
as the doctor,

and, as such,
I immediately asked him

some information,
what had happened?

How long has this been going on?

And he told me then
that it had just happened.

This was a patient to me
that it seemed

that he had not
just passed away,

that some time had gone by
before we were notified.

And, in fact, later

when you're reflecting
on this call,

the days, the weeks,
the months afterwards,

one of the greatest regrets
that all of us had

was that we had not been
called sooner.

[dramatic music playing]

When we came outside,
that's when we became aware

of a very large presence.

We were trying to back out
on the street

only to be hindered
by many, many cameramen

putting their lenses
against the glass windows

of the moving ambulance.

[dramatic music playing]

Michael! Michael!

[Scott] People seem
to forget or don't realize

about this investigation,
it was a death investigation.

There really wasn't a crime,
um, at the time.

[Orlando] From the information
that I had, it was probably

an accident or natural,
and we would find out

that he had some
pre-existing medical condition

and then we would be done.

[Dan] Just look at what we knew
in the first hours of this.

Taken to the hospital,
there wasn't a bloody knife,

there wasn't a smoking gun,
there was nothing on the surface

that would lead anyone
to believe

anything nefarious had occurred.

[Orlando]
When I arrived at the hospital,

Dr. Murray was gone,

so he was no longer there
at the scene.

[Scott] We're in a bit
of a panic then,

uh, the one person that was
in the room with him at the time

that everything happened
is no longer at the hospital.

There were several attempts
right away

to get a hold of Dr. Murray,
uh, that were negative,

that he--
they were going to voicemail.

[Scott] We had family members,

Jackson family members
coming in,

and people wanting
some questions answered,

as well as us.

[Jermaine] It is believed
he suffered cardiac arrest

in his home.

A team of doctors,
including emergency physicians

and cardiologists,
attempted to resuscitate him.

[Orlando]
The emergency room physician,

they believed
it was a heart attack,

partly because of what
Mr. Murray had told them.

Never told them anything
about any other narcotics

or anything. They just believed
he had had a heart attack

and stopped breathing.

[dramatic music playing]

So here we are
at the Carolwood house.

That day...

by the time I got here,

we had to block off
this side of the street,

the entrance side of the street,
and it was full of media vans.

We had never seen
anything like it.

I had never seen
anything like it.

[suspenseful music playing]

[Orlando]
There was the room

where Dr. Murray treated
Mr. Jackson,

and then there was
a locked room,

which was, uh,
Mr. Jackson's bedroom.

[dramatic music playing]

There was a fireplace
in the room and it was roaring,

so the room was very, very hot.

There were, like, Post-it notes
or pieces of paper taped,

uh, all over the room
on mirrors, on doors

with little slogans and phrases.

I don't know
if they were lyrics or thoughts,

or some of them
seemed like poems.

The bedroom was...

it was a mess.

In the room
where he was being treated,

it did not seem like a room fit

for any type
of medical treatment.

Not even like a home,
makeshift medical suite.

It was just... bare bones.

I just remember going in there
and there was an IV stand

and a saline bag

and just various medications
strewn about.

[Orlando]
There was a computer on the bed,

there was a lifelike, uh,
doll on the bed,

and kind of like advertisements
of, uh, pictures with babies.

Everybody knew
about the allegations

that had been leveled

against Mr. Jackson
over the years.

One of the things when I saw
the laptop on the bed,

do I go into it?

But... you have to realize

the type of case
I was investigating.

When you get, you know,
hold of an investigation,

you have to kind of whittle out

what is and what isn't.

[Dan] It's like with any case,
um, you don't allow

whatever the victim was into
prior to his death.

Your investigation is focused
on, "How did he die?"

and
"Who was responsible for it?"

[Orlando] In the room
where he was being treated,

a bottle of Propofol...

had fallen on the ground

and rolled under
this moving nightstand.

I didn't know what it did.

That ended up being
a huge deal later.

I had no medical background
whatsoever.

My neighbor was a doctor,
so I went to my neighbor

and I asked him about it,

and my neighbor was the one
who got it started of,

"Whoa, what is this doing here?"

"This is only used in surgeries,

this is used
to put people under."

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[Orlando]
We had put it out in the press

that we were looking
for Dr. Murray.

We still didn't think

that there was
anything criminal going on.

The only thing that we knew
was this surgery drug

was at the location

and it shouldn't have
been there.

The next day, we get a call.

His attorney has been
in contact.

He consents to an interview.

So our plan was to let him talk,

and, uh, that's what we did.

[Orlando, on recording] So, um, how long have you been a doctor

for Mr. Jackson?

[Conrad, on recording]
I first, um, started

attending to him in 2006.

[Orlando] And it was continuous, 2006 on?

-[Conrad] No. Well, no.
-[Orlando] Or on and off?

[Conrad]
Off and on, intermittent.

[Orlando] Okay.

We didn't know what happened,

we didn't want
to assume anything,

and we wanted to give
the doctor an opportunity

to dig his own hole,
if that was the case.

[interviewer]
So it's just you and Michael?

[Conrad]
Usually, that's how it is.

[interviewer] Okay.
On this night, it was just you

-and Michael?
-[Conrad] Just myself and him.

[Scott] And he proceeded
to tell us that, you know,

Michael just couldn't sleep,
he was just so amped up

about this upcoming concert.

He, by nature,

had a hard time sleeping.

He gave him some drugs.

[Scott] Some Valium,
Lorazepam, and Diazepam,

and a few others to try
and calm Michael to try

and get him to rest,
to fall asleep,

-and nothing works.
-[Conrad] He was wide awake.

I said, "Do you feel
a little bit drowsy?"

"Do you think
your eyes are telling you

you wanna sleep?"
He said, "No."

Dr. Murray says,
"You know, after trying

all these various things,
nothing was working,

and it's in the early morning
hours of the next day

and, uh, so finally,
I just gave Michael his milk."

[Conrad] At that time,
he said, well, um...

"I'd like to have... some milk."

[Orlando] Milk?

Hot, cold milk?
What are we talking about?

He says, "Oh, well, that's a--
it's a medication.

Does the medication have a name?

He says, "Well, it's Propofol."

And this was again
a big revelation

during this interview
that Propofol's mentioned.

[Scott, on recording] And what is this, uh, Propofol?

[Conrad]
It is a sedative

that can also be used
for anesthesia.

He freely admits that for months
he's been using this

to help Mr. Jackson sleep.

[Scott] Okay.
You've administered it

-more than ten times?
-[Conrad] Yes.

[Scott] More than 20 times?

[Conrad] Thirty days a month
roughly, every day.

-[Orlando] So it's a daily--
-[Scott] A daily.

In my head I was thinking
what the heck.

To drug someone to sleep,
even with their permission,

the way that he did.

I didn't think it was legal.

[Conrad] I monitored.
I sat there and watched him

for long enough a period
that I felt was comfortable.

[Orlando] He gave him Propofol
and then goes to the bathroom,

comes back,
Mr. Jackson's not breathing.

[Conrad] So I started
immediately to perform CPR

and mouth-to-mouth
resuscitation.

He goes into a panic,

uh, he tries CPR
while Michael's on the bed,

he summons Alberto Alvarez,
the head of security,

and, ultimately, Alberto Alvarez
is the one that calls 911.

[dramatic music playing]

[Orlando] When we reviewed
the CCTV at the mansion,

we saw that he carried in
a bag with him,

and also the family
and the security staff told us

he would always carry
a bag with him.

When he went to the hospital,

he did not have the bag
with him.

The biggest, uh,
"aha" moment was

when I had asked Dr. Murray

where his bags were.

[Scott, on recording]
Where-- Where's your bag

where those syringes
would be at now?

-[Chernoff] Oh, really?
-[Conrad] I don't have them.

[Chernoff]
I thought you left it there?

He was assuming that we had it.

You haven't got my bags?

Once he realized
we didn't have that, he's like,

you know, a deer
in headlights look, if you will.

You know, legally we can search

the areas that are relevant.

It wasn't in the room
that was relevant.

[Conrad] If you walk
into the dressing room

and you turn right,
the high level top,

the bags are right there
with the items in it.

You know, in those moments,
people aren't their sharpest,

they're not thinking
the best,

so it's our job to take
those little mistakes

that people make
and build the case on them.

[dramatic music playing]

[Orlando] First thing
Monday morning,

we went to the house,

we went to where Dr. Murray had said the medical bag was.

A different room, in a closet,

in a cubby above the closet,
we recovered the bag.

We recovered
a treasure trove of evidence

from Murray's doctor's bag.

[Orlando] We found a bunch
of more medicines

that he had used.

Like Propofol and Lidocaine.

One of the other things we found
was we found all the waste,

all the trash, the needles,

the empty bottles,

the stuff that, when we went
into the room,

should have been laying around.

So we knew that sometime
during this medical emergency,

Dr. Murray had stopped

either giving CPR

or had waited to give CPR,

and cleaned up everything.

So we're thinking what could be
the reasons for that.

Within 48 hours, it appeared
that it was a suspicious death,

in the sense
that there was something

more than just an overdose.

If your goal is
to preserve the life

of the person
that you're giving CPR to,

why would you pause that
to pick up trash?

Unless you were trying
to hide something.

If he wouldn't have told us
where it was, or if he would've

taken it with him,
we wouldn't have had it,

we would have lost that element
of the hiding,

the trying to cover up.

[Dan] We were now
looking at Murray.

He was behind the death.

[dramatic music playing]

Not only do you have to do

what you can for the victim,

but you also have to take
into account the organization.

[Dan] You're donning
a uniform that has--

that's been a part of history,

and growing up with the stories
that you'd heard

from the Manson cases,

you know, Marilyn Monroe,
all these notorious cases

that you'd seen and heard
about growing up,

were part of LAPD.

[Orlando] Historically,
our department had not had

very much success
on high-profile cases.

We had, um, lost the OJ case,

everybody remembers
the Bronco chase.

Ourselves and the DA's office
allowed him

to turn himself in,

and it turned into a pursuit

and a hostage situation,
just ridiculous.

[Dan] And even though
you have this overwhelming

amount of evidence
to secure a conviction,

you don't get it.

[female juror] We the jury
in the above-entitled action

find the defendant
Orenthal James Simpson

not guilty
of the crime of murder,

a felony
upon Nicole Brown Simpson,

a human being, as charged
in Count 1 of the information.

For us working the cases,

we didn't want to make
the same mistakes

that had been made
in the department's memory

and in the public memory.

There was a lot of pressure
to get it right.

Me personally, I thought
that it was gonna be horrible.

The public scrutiny,

the second guessing.

[man] This is kind of like
when, um,

the generation
when Kennedy was assassinated.

I now will remember
that I was in Times Square,

you know, when I found out that
Michael Jackson passed away.

[Scott] There was a lot more
pressure, if you will.

There was a lot
of eyes on us, obviously,

to get the job done.

It was daunting at times.

[dramatic music playing]

[Scott] When I showed up
to go into the autopsy,

you know, they had
a little cover over the window,

and they were looking
to make sure it's just me

and no one else is around,
and they open the door

and they usher me in right away
and close the door and lock it.

And I'm like, "Oh my gosh,"
you know,

we're in
a controlled environment,

this is your office,
this is a coroner's office,

what's the problem?

Everything had been cleared
out of there.

I remember it being close
to, uh, five hours long.

It was extraordinarily long.

The thing that was odd
that I found myself

periodically looking at was,
you know, his head, his scalp,

because whenever he was out
in public, he was wearing a wig.

[dramatic music playing]

Looking at his scalp
and the top of his head

and being, you know,
severely scarred,

hardly any hair at all
on the sides

to what he had looked like
in public with the flowing hair,

um, that was, you know,
a bit different.

Not defending his use
of prescription medicine

by any means,
but, you know,

when you experience
something like that,

it kinda opens up the door
for painkillers

and whatever else
that may lead to.

But other than that,
it truly just...

let's do this and get it done.
Yeah.

Blood is drawn,

uh, and then that blood is sent
to a toxicology unit,

so the initial autopsy
didn't show much,

you know, nothing much
that you wouldn't be shocked

a 50-year-old body would have.

He was relatively healthy,
you know.

This isn't a man
who should have died.

[reporter] Although the official
cause of death has yet

to be determined,
the coroner's office says

it has everything needed
to make a ruling

-on why Jackson died.
-We're still waiting

for the toxicology reports

and the further completion
of all the reports

-that are coming in.
-[man] The body was removed...

It was weeks that went by,
and we kept asking,

"When are we going to hear
from toxicology?"

"When are we gonna hear?"

We had a death,

but we didn't have
a criminal death yet.

[dramatic music playing]

[woman] It's official.

Michael Jackson's death was
a homicide.

[crowd cheering]

[woman] The LA County
coroner's office says

the cause of death
was an acute intoxication

from the anesthetic Propofol.

[Orlando] Once the toxicology
report came back,

it gave us a lot more--
a lot more power

behind our investigation.

Other than going on a hunch,
now we're going on facts.

[Dan] And then there became
the idea of, how bad?

That was the big question,
"How bad is this?"

[Scott] Ultimately,
the toxicology results,

you had those over here

and you have Dr. Murray's
statement here,

it just wasn't jiving.

There was just no way

that what he said was factual
to what they found out.

He had enough Propofol in him
to drop a rhinoceros.

[Dan] He could no longer
breathe on his own,

and Murray had not set up
an environment

to allow for artificial means
of breathing,

which is reckless...
gross negligence.

[ambient music playing]

[Orlando] This is a bottle
that people pee into

when they're bedridden.

This was found at the bedside
and it was full.

He used the restroom

without having
to get out of bed.

What it made us think was that
he was completely incapacitated,

that someone was caring for him
to that extent.

Seeing things like this,
I realized that...

he wasn't being helped
to fall asleep,

he was being kept under.

As a consequence,
not having the strength

or the ability to get up
and go to the restroom,

just take care of business
and continue sleeping.

[woman 1] We stand up
and fight for the doctor.

[woman 2]
We stand up for Michael.

[woman 1]
We fight for the doctor.

[protesters]
Justice for Michael!

Justice for Michael!
Justice for Michael!

[Dan]
What we did is we took our case,

and this included
all of our interviews,

all of our statements,
and, most significantly,

the toxicology reports
and the autopsy reports.

We had 11 physicians

and I think five or six
different specialties

review this material

and were asked
to render an opinion.

As I was looking for doctors
to evaluate the level of care,

I came across Dr. Shafer.

He was instrumental
in developing Propofol.

[Shafer] I demonstrated that
in statement after statement

after statement
in Conrad Murray's interview,

what he said made no sense,
it was not possible.

He just asserted things
that were not true.

He-- You would need
a continuous drip

of the Propofol and not a shot,
not an injection

like Dr. Murray had said
he had used.

It wears off really quickly.

[Shafer] So what
I'm simulating right here,

uh, is the dose
that Conrad Murray claims

was available to Michael Jackson
and the defense claimed,

um, resulted
in Michael Jackson's death,

a dose of just 25 milligrams.

Two and a half CCs of drug,
which is ridiculous.

It only lasts for a few seconds,

and this was the whole point
of the mathematics

that I presented,

and the heart, of course,
keeps pumping.

So we know
that there was a 100CC vial

hanging over Michael Jackson.

Knowing it was empty,
we can see exactly

how over a period
of about 30 to 40 minutes

it enters into a dose
that would be associated

with a lethal concentration
of drug in a patient

who wasn't being looked after,
because they're really under

pretty deep general anesthesia
at that point in time,

and this corresponds
to having an empty 100ml vial

hanging over
Michael Jackson's head.

And I thought,
oh, my God, this is it.

This is the smoking gun.
This is actually

the bottle of Propofol
that killed Michael Jackson.

[ambient music playing]

What we discovered was
one of the IV bags

had been emptied.

One of the Propofol bottles
had been upside down

inside the bag.

There's a bottle of Propofol
inside an IV bag?

I mean one
of the single weirdest details.

[Orlando]
There was a big tear,

a pike or a needle that is large

would have broken the top
of the Propofol bottle,

so that it could drip
freely down.

Basically, Murray was using
the saline bag

to hang the bottle of Propofol
from the stand,

but also I think to hide it,

because he didn't want
anybody to know

he was using Propofol.

So to get an idea
of just how crazy this is,

the anesthetic drugs
are all dangerous,

there is really no access

outside of
the healthcare setting.

We have pumps that are set up
that are precisely calibrated,

and we precisely control
the dose.

He had an IV line
coming down from here

and it's got a little
roller clamp on the side,

and you just adjust
this little roller clamp.

It's a gravity-fed system,
there is almost--

there's very little control
on the rate of the drug,

and that's what he was using.
It's insane.

Nobody trained
in Propofol administration

would not precisely control
the infusion rate.

Nobody trained
in the use of Propofol

would ever walk away
from a patient

who is receiving Propofol
as a continuous infusion.

Physicians with no training
in anesthesia

have no business
giving Propofol.

[Orlando]
So at that point, we knew

this was not
an honest mistake,

but that this was on purpose,
bad medicine.

An MD degree is not a license

to do whatever
the hell you wanna do

and just think
you can get away with it.

[dramatic music playing]

One of the challenges
in the investigation was

the uncooperative witnesses.

Um, one of those
was Dr. Murray's girlfriend.

Um, when we finally served
the search warrant

at the-- at her apartment,

the whole place
had been cleaned out.

There was nothing to show
that Dr. Murray had been there,

stayed there,
frequented there at all.

Fortunately, they had missed
behind one of the bookcases.

Behind one of the bookcases,

we found a receipt
for a pharmacy.

That led us to the Propofol.

These items here are
what we found

at Nicole Alvarez's house.

So it brings me back
to remembering

how, uh, difficult things were
when dealing with her.

This business card
and this receipt were

the only things in his name
at her place.

This led us to the pharmacy.

When we arrived at the pharmacy,

the pharmacy had all
the records ready.

They had been following the news
and they knew

that the police would
be there eventually.

And as you go through,
you can see all the amounts.

One case of the 100ml bottles,

one case of the 20ml bottles,

in June, four cases
of the 100ml bottles,

all of the amounts,

it's over five gallons worth
of Propofol.

[Shafer]
A massive amount of Propofol,

a massive amount of Propofol
was shipped

to his girlfriend's house.

[Scott] We found
that there was other doctors

that Michael had reached out to

in hopes of, uh, being
administered Propofol,

and, uh, he was turned down.

[Dan] That relationship
was a perfect storm.

Michael first got introduced
to Propofol

through a dental procedure,
and he liked it.

He felt like, "Wow, this is
the best way to go to sleep."

[Scott]
That was his drug of choice,

and he was looking for doctors
that would administer that,

you know,
as wrong as it was.

[dramatic music playing]

[Orlando] Usually, you think
of a doctor as someone

very successful
and ethical and distinguished.

Why they would risk
a patient's life for anything,

what would make it worth it?

[Scott]
We had search warrants out

in, uh, Las Vegas,
at his residence

as well as his, uh, place
of business in Las Vegas

and then his office, uh,
out in Houston, Texas.

[Orlando] We get into finances,
we get into business dealings,

and his relationships.

We executed a search warrant

down at the Armstrong
Medical Clinic this morning

with members from the DEA

and the Houston
Police Department

and, uh, we are from LAPD
Robbery/Homicide division.

[Dan] He had several children,

we would learn several of them
by several different wives.

He would go out
to places of adult entertainment

and spend outrageous
amounts of money.

He would put on a show

and not be able
to support it financially.

He would leverage his closeness
to a celebrity

to manipulate young women
into relationships with him.

[Dan] We knew that he had
purchased a home in October,

in Las Vegas, uh,
for over a million dollars,

and his mortgage
was $10,000 a month,

and he had stopped paying it.

[dramatic music playing]

He... had censures
from different states

where he had--
he practiced medicine.

[dramatic music playing]

[Orlando] With these different
medical boards, they sent us

the files of the complaints
and the penalties

that they would impose
on Dr. Murray

when he would violate
their rules.

We saw a pattern
of sloppy behavior.

[Scott] A private physician
to Michael Jackson

and here he is, uh,
just an absolute mess,

you know,
yeah, surprising.

[Orlando] This is what
I recovered from, uh, his car,

the doctor's car.

[dramatic music playing]

This was the contract
uh, as we first found it.

The agreement
between Dr. Murray,

AEG, and, uh, Mr. Jackson.

"The producer shall remit
payment to Dr. Murray

in the amount
of $150,000 per month."

So this is where
the money came into it.

[crowd cheering]

[Scott]
Michael had started working,

preparing for
this huge comeback tour,

and that's when he had
reached out, Michael,

and, uh, told AEG that he wanted
Conrad Murray with him.

And, initially,
AEG was like, you know,

London is not
a third world country,

they have fabulous doctors
over there,

what do you need
your own physician for?

[Dan] And Michael's response
to his managers were,

"Listen, the President
of the Unites States

has a physician travel with him,

I want a physician
to travel with me."

[Scott] Dr. Murray agreed to go
ahead and accompany him,

and, uh, provide Michael
with what he wanted.

[Orlando] So he needed this gig
with Mr. Jackson,

either to pay off or to keep up
with his debts.

[Dan]
He had the right motive.

He needed money.

[dramatic music playing]

[indistinct radio chatter]

[Scott] Ultimately,
the decision was made

to, uh, charge Dr. Murray
with involuntary manslaughter,

as opposed
to second-degree murder.

The DA's office didn't want
another high-profile failure.

It was an election year
for the district attorney.

I think it was a--

I don't wanna say
the lazy way out,

uh, but again, a manslaughter
charge was, you know,

the path of least resistance.

The family wasn't happy
with it at all.

Mrs. Jackson was just
beside herself

that it wasn't going to be
a second-degree murder file.

[Dan]
We felt the evidence suggests

that it was a second degree.

The level of his negligence
was just so clear

that we thought
that it would apply.

We do not charge people,

we investigate the case
and we present it.

We were not happy
with the choice,

but we deal with what we can
and, uh, we move forward.

[Scott] When I felt
a little pressure, I guess,

is when it came time
to arrest Dr. Murray.

[Dan] We wanted to see
Murray in handcuffs,

and I think a lot, you know,

of people wanted
to see him in handcuffs.

[Scott] His attorneys
didn't want Dr. Murray

to be seen in handcuffs
in public,

because that's not good
for his image.

Neither is killing
somebody but...

[Orlando] Behind our backs,
the DA's office made

that agreement
with Dr. Murray's attorneys.

[crowd shouting]

[Scott]
The doctor turned himself in,

voluntary surrender.

[camera shutters clicking]

You know, I'm of the opinion
that regardless of who you are,

or what walk of life
you come from,

uh, if you've done wrong,

then you need
to answer for that.

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I am an innocent man.

I, therefore, plead not guilty.

Again, he feels
he'd done nothing wrong,

it wasn't his fault.

He's just--
He's an arrogant individual.

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[David]
Conrad Murray, figuratively

and literally, abandoned
Michael Jackson.

We look at Murray's
phone records.

That was a big, huge piece.

We could see Murray
on his phone at certain times.

He left this vulnerable man
filled with Valium,

and Midazolam, and Lorazepam,
and Propofol,

with no medical
monitoring equipment,

no necessary
resuscitative equipment.

He left him there,
abandoned him

to fend for himself.

So as far as stepping
away for a minute

and going to the bathroom
and coming back

and, "Oh, my gosh,
Michael's dead," no.

He was sending emails,
reviewing a contract,

and he was also on the telephone
with various people.

While he was on the phone,

he realized that Mr. Jackson
was not breathing.

I heard, um,
mumbling of voices,

it sounded like the phone was
maybe in his pocket

or something, it was...
[imitates noise]

and I heard coughing.

We looked at the timelines
of the 911 call.

It was, I think, around
20 to 25 minutes

after that call
with Sade Anding.

[Orlando] Mr. Murray
started cleaning up

the mess that he had left,

covering up the medical
treatment that he was giving,

put that away,

called for help from security,
directed them to call 911

while he gave ineffective,
one-handed CPR...

and then travelled
to the hospital

with Mr. Jackson.

Dr. Murray fled the hospital
before we arrived,

waited a couple of days
to get his story straight,

and, ultimately,

was, uh, prosecuted
for his conduct.

[woman] We the jury
in the above-entitled action

find the defendant,
Conrad Robert Murray,

guilty of the crime
of involuntary manslaughter.

[crowd cheering]

That's how that turned out.

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[Dan] Should it have been
a second-degree murder?

Yeah,
I think it could have been.

Unfortunately,
that is not a choice

that we were able to make.

The biggest thing
is that he does not get

his medical license back
in any state,

and I-- I personally don't
see that happening.

And I'm just trying to keep it
light and polite here,

uh, but yeah.
He's-- He's in his own world,

he's in his own world,
Dr. Murray.

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[Orlando] I think
that this case,

we actually had the answers.

We won't be in that book
of unsolved murders,

all the big ones
where we've failed.

At least my name
won't be, uh, put--

put in the same place as those.

It's something
I'll never forget, obviously,

for the rest of my life.

Uh, one hell of an experience.
Yeah, no regrets.

In big cases like this,
um, sometimes, you know,

friendships can really dissolve,
but not in this case.

It was, uh,
we all lived happily ever after.

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[Orlando]
As soon as this one was over,

it comes to, "This is what we expect of you."

You get your next murder
and you move forward.

[Orlando] About four years
after the trial,

I was driving home,
uh, from work.

I look over to my left
and I see this green,

older, nice Mercedes.

I feel someone staring at me.

I look over
and it's the same car,

and I see Dr. Murray.

It took me a few seconds
to register that it was him,

and by that time our cars
had separated,

but I never saw any double takes

or any instant moment
of recognition.

At that time, I was-- I wondered

whether or not he would start
practicing medicine again.

Do you give someone like that
a second chance?

Someone who's done their time

for the crime
that they've committed.

When do you let it go?

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