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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,461 --> 00:00:03,594 Freeman: Time. 2 00:00:03,596 --> 00:00:05,897 It's all around us. 3 00:00:05,899 --> 00:00:07,165 [ Ticking ] 4 00:00:07,167 --> 00:00:08,979 But is it what we think it is? 5 00:00:11,168 --> 00:00:13,371 Time seems to flow forward... 6 00:00:15,109 --> 00:00:17,423 ...But can it run backward? 7 00:00:17,425 --> 00:00:21,328 Do events unfold one after another, 8 00:00:21,330 --> 00:00:25,668 or do past, present, and future exist side-by-side? 9 00:00:25,670 --> 00:00:29,173 It's one of the most challenging topics in science, 10 00:00:29,175 --> 00:00:33,742 questioning our most basic assumptions about reality. 11 00:00:35,548 --> 00:00:38,985 Is time a fundamental part of the Universe, 12 00:00:38,987 --> 00:00:41,788 or could it be that time doesn't really exist? 13 00:00:51,639 --> 00:00:56,377 Space, time, life itself. 14 00:00:58,616 --> 00:01:03,521 The secrets of the cosmos lie through the wormhole. 15 00:01:03,523 --> 00:01:07,523 ♪ Through the Wormhole 2x03 ♪ Does Time Really Exist? Original Air Date on June 22, 2011 16 00:01:07,524 --> 00:01:11,524 == sync, corrected by elderman == 17 00:01:16,759 --> 00:01:19,394 What time is it? 18 00:01:19,430 --> 00:01:22,899 I could tell you it's 9:02 p.m., 19 00:01:22,901 --> 00:01:24,768 but your time may vary, 20 00:01:24,770 --> 00:01:27,771 depending on where and when you are. 21 00:01:27,773 --> 00:01:29,973 For most of us, 22 00:01:29,975 --> 00:01:33,643 time was a set of numbers we use to gauge our days. 23 00:01:33,645 --> 00:01:36,311 We live our lives by the clock -- 24 00:01:36,313 --> 00:01:40,681 waking up, racing to work, going to bed, and on and on. 25 00:01:40,683 --> 00:01:42,984 It wasn't always like that. 26 00:01:42,986 --> 00:01:44,819 [ Birds chirping ] 27 00:01:44,821 --> 00:01:48,824 When I was a kid, summers were timeless. 28 00:01:48,826 --> 00:01:51,928 I had no particular place to be, 29 00:01:51,930 --> 00:01:54,932 no appointments to be kept. 30 00:01:54,934 --> 00:02:00,071 My days were bounded only by the position of the sun. 31 00:02:00,073 --> 00:02:03,207 Time didn't matter so much back then. 32 00:02:03,209 --> 00:02:08,178 Now my life is a race against time. 33 00:02:08,180 --> 00:02:11,214 But what am I racing against? 34 00:02:11,216 --> 00:02:15,018 Is time a real thing built into the universe? 35 00:02:15,020 --> 00:02:17,654 Or is it just an abstraction, 36 00:02:17,656 --> 00:02:19,288 something we humans created 37 00:02:19,290 --> 00:02:21,257 to keep our civilizations running? 38 00:02:21,259 --> 00:02:23,593 For the answer, 39 00:02:23,595 --> 00:02:27,931 we have to ask a deceptively simple question -- 40 00:02:27,933 --> 00:02:30,533 what is time? 41 00:02:30,535 --> 00:02:33,537 Think about it. Try to define it. 42 00:02:33,539 --> 00:02:35,606 It's not easy. 43 00:02:35,608 --> 00:02:38,609 Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once, 44 00:02:38,611 --> 00:02:40,745 and so time is that part of the world 45 00:02:40,747 --> 00:02:43,915 that orders events in a certain way 46 00:02:43,917 --> 00:02:47,319 so they happen sequentially, from beginning to end. 47 00:02:47,321 --> 00:02:48,453 [ Chuckles ] 48 00:02:50,423 --> 00:02:52,457 What we're realizing in neuroscience 49 00:02:52,459 --> 00:02:55,428 is that time is not what we thought it was. 50 00:02:55,430 --> 00:02:59,965 Time is not something you're passively tracking. 51 00:02:59,967 --> 00:03:01,767 Instead, it's something 52 00:03:01,769 --> 00:03:04,603 that you're actively constructing with the brain. 53 00:03:04,605 --> 00:03:07,639 And my brain and your brain can be very different 54 00:03:07,641 --> 00:03:10,208 in terms of how they see the same event. 55 00:03:10,210 --> 00:03:13,044 Time just does not exist. 56 00:03:13,046 --> 00:03:14,545 What exists is 57 00:03:14,547 --> 00:03:17,315 these distributions of everything in the world, 58 00:03:17,317 --> 00:03:19,083 these what I call "nows." 59 00:03:19,085 --> 00:03:20,384 That's the real thing. 60 00:03:22,221 --> 00:03:25,390 What I enjoy about time is the recording of it. 61 00:03:27,093 --> 00:03:29,794 Freeman: To Roger Smith, time is money. 62 00:03:29,796 --> 00:03:31,730 His custom-made watches sell 63 00:03:31,732 --> 00:03:35,000 for hundreds of thousands of dollars. 64 00:03:35,002 --> 00:03:37,470 The hardest part of the job is 65 00:03:37,472 --> 00:03:41,574 to get these jungles of tiny gears and wheels ticking 66 00:03:41,576 --> 00:03:43,342 at precisely spaced intervals. 67 00:03:45,145 --> 00:03:46,979 To bring a watch to time, 68 00:03:46,981 --> 00:03:50,349 it can be quite a lengthy and complex process, 69 00:03:50,351 --> 00:03:53,786 and this particular wheel has to be perfectly balanced. 70 00:03:53,788 --> 00:03:56,288 And if it isn't perfectly balanced, 71 00:03:56,290 --> 00:03:59,992 then your watch will keep different rates, 72 00:03:59,994 --> 00:04:01,760 different times in different positions. 73 00:04:01,762 --> 00:04:03,562 Freeman: Roger's goal is 74 00:04:03,564 --> 00:04:07,033 to get his watches to match Greenwich Mean Time, 75 00:04:07,035 --> 00:04:09,602 the time that every clock around the world uses 76 00:04:09,604 --> 00:04:11,437 as its baseline. 77 00:04:13,273 --> 00:04:16,275 It was named after this place -- 78 00:04:16,277 --> 00:04:18,677 Greenwich, England. 79 00:04:18,679 --> 00:04:21,880 Time as we know it was born here. 80 00:04:21,882 --> 00:04:23,449 In 1884, 81 00:04:23,451 --> 00:04:27,219 a world conference decided that the Meridian Line 82 00:04:27,221 --> 00:04:30,423 that passes through the observatory at Greenwich 83 00:04:30,425 --> 00:04:33,059 was to be the initial meridian -- 84 00:04:33,061 --> 00:04:35,827 the master time for planet Earth. 85 00:04:35,829 --> 00:04:39,764 Greenwich Mean Time is our best approximation of time 86 00:04:39,766 --> 00:04:42,333 as described by sir Isaac Newton -- 87 00:04:42,335 --> 00:04:44,569 a steady beat pounding 88 00:04:44,571 --> 00:04:47,205 behind the scenes of the Universe. 89 00:04:47,207 --> 00:04:50,975 Newton believed the Universe was like a giant clock 90 00:04:50,977 --> 00:04:53,611 set into motion by God. 91 00:04:53,613 --> 00:04:56,314 But Newton got it wrong. 92 00:04:58,717 --> 00:05:01,152 Lee Smolin is a theoretical physicist 93 00:05:01,154 --> 00:05:04,188 trying to solve the mysteries of time. 94 00:05:04,190 --> 00:05:07,024 Newton's concept of time was that it was absolute. 95 00:05:07,026 --> 00:05:10,327 It was like a metronome, which, as you said, 96 00:05:10,329 --> 00:05:12,295 ticks on absolutely, without regard 97 00:05:12,297 --> 00:05:15,198 to whether anything is happening in the Universe or not, 98 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:16,699 even if nothing is happening. 99 00:05:16,701 --> 00:05:19,002 For example, even if in our studio here, 100 00:05:19,004 --> 00:05:20,470 no music is playing, 101 00:05:20,472 --> 00:05:24,306 the metronome just kicks on absolutely at the same rate, 102 00:05:24,308 --> 00:05:26,609 no matter what is going on. 103 00:05:26,611 --> 00:05:31,414 The problem with this is that it's actually impossible 104 00:05:31,416 --> 00:05:33,849 for any of us to detect absolute time. 105 00:05:33,851 --> 00:05:36,452 We don't detect absolute time. 106 00:05:36,454 --> 00:05:39,622 We detect time as relationships between things that happen, 107 00:05:39,624 --> 00:05:41,057 and we can illustrate this 108 00:05:41,059 --> 00:05:43,325 by asking the musicians to start up the music. 109 00:05:44,127 --> 00:05:46,262 One, two, three, four. 110 00:05:46,264 --> 00:05:49,898 [ Band plays mid-tempo jazz music ] 111 00:05:54,137 --> 00:05:56,472 And they start to play, 112 00:05:56,474 --> 00:05:59,141 and they develop time between themselves, 113 00:05:59,143 --> 00:06:01,443 a relational time completely built 114 00:06:01,445 --> 00:06:03,445 from the relationships between the notes they're playing, 115 00:06:03,447 --> 00:06:05,047 the events they're creating. 116 00:06:05,049 --> 00:06:07,216 That's what time is really like. 117 00:06:07,218 --> 00:06:09,585 So, we can turn the metronome off. 118 00:06:09,587 --> 00:06:12,287 In fact, we can just get rid of it, 119 00:06:12,289 --> 00:06:14,056 and the world keeps going on, 120 00:06:14,058 --> 00:06:17,726 the music keeps going on just as before. 121 00:06:17,728 --> 00:06:19,762 [ Music continues ] 122 00:06:21,898 --> 00:06:24,166 This was the great insight of Einstein, 123 00:06:24,168 --> 00:06:26,802 and it was the basis of his general Theory of Relativity -- 124 00:06:26,804 --> 00:06:29,572 that time is created by the relationships 125 00:06:29,574 --> 00:06:32,108 of the changes that happen in the Universe, 126 00:06:32,110 --> 00:06:33,943 and nothing else. 127 00:06:41,252 --> 00:06:43,687 Freeman: Even today, 128 00:06:43,689 --> 00:06:45,689 some people have a hard time accepting 129 00:06:45,691 --> 00:06:48,258 Albert Einstein's relational time 130 00:06:48,260 --> 00:06:50,927 over Isaac Newton's absolute time. 131 00:06:50,929 --> 00:06:53,763 But the better we get at telling time, 132 00:06:53,765 --> 00:06:57,934 the more we can see that Einstein was right. 133 00:06:57,936 --> 00:07:01,804 This is the aluminum ion experimental clock 134 00:07:01,806 --> 00:07:05,109 at the National Institute of Standards and Technology 135 00:07:05,111 --> 00:07:06,811 in Boulder, Colorado, 136 00:07:06,813 --> 00:07:09,981 America's official timekeepers. 137 00:07:09,983 --> 00:07:12,617 It's the world's most accurate clock, 138 00:07:12,619 --> 00:07:15,755 measuring the oscillations of supercooled atoms. 139 00:07:15,757 --> 00:07:16,989 It keeps time 140 00:07:16,991 --> 00:07:22,329 to within one second every 3.7 billion years. 141 00:07:22,331 --> 00:07:26,133 In 2010, Boulder's time lords 142 00:07:26,135 --> 00:07:32,006 took two ion clocks side by side in perfect synchronization, 143 00:07:32,008 --> 00:07:36,644 then moved one of the clocks up 12 inches. 144 00:07:36,646 --> 00:07:39,079 The higher clock went out of sync. 145 00:07:39,081 --> 00:07:43,517 It beat just a tiny bit faster than the lower clock, 146 00:07:43,519 --> 00:07:47,055 because the higher clock is just a tiny bit farther away 147 00:07:47,057 --> 00:07:49,925 from the gravitational pull of the Earth, 148 00:07:49,927 --> 00:07:51,927 which slows things down. 149 00:07:51,929 --> 00:07:55,298 Einstein predicted this would happen 150 00:07:55,300 --> 00:07:58,001 back at the dawn of the 20th century, 151 00:07:58,003 --> 00:08:00,504 and he was just getting started. 152 00:08:02,407 --> 00:08:07,377 If we perceived the Universe as Einstein pictured it, 153 00:08:07,379 --> 00:08:11,014 life would not have to flow in a smooth, linear progression. 154 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,122 A simple act could be cut up and rearranged 155 00:08:18,124 --> 00:08:22,360 with no logical direction backward or forward, 156 00:08:22,362 --> 00:08:24,862 no beginning or end. 157 00:08:24,864 --> 00:08:26,864 This is how the Universe would look 158 00:08:26,866 --> 00:08:30,468 if we were physically unstuck in time. 159 00:08:33,772 --> 00:08:35,673 Sean Carroll is a physicist 160 00:08:35,675 --> 00:08:39,410 at the California Institute of Technology. 161 00:08:39,412 --> 00:08:40,645 We live in space. 162 00:08:40,647 --> 00:08:43,414 All around us, there are three dimensions of space. 163 00:08:43,416 --> 00:08:46,551 What Einstein realized is that time is also a dimension. 164 00:08:46,553 --> 00:08:50,455 In fact, time and space are one thing called space-time, 165 00:08:50,457 --> 00:08:51,989 which is four-dimensional. 166 00:08:51,991 --> 00:08:53,290 That's what we live in. 167 00:08:53,292 --> 00:08:55,493 That's what we move in and live our lives through. 168 00:08:55,495 --> 00:08:57,562 Einstein furthermore realized 169 00:08:57,564 --> 00:09:02,167 that gravity is a manifestation of the curvature of space-time. 170 00:09:02,169 --> 00:09:03,736 You have stuff in the Universe -- 171 00:09:03,738 --> 00:09:05,204 you know, a planet or a black hole 172 00:09:05,206 --> 00:09:07,541 or some kind of mass or energy -- 173 00:09:07,543 --> 00:09:09,843 it warps the space and time around it, 174 00:09:09,845 --> 00:09:12,746 and that's what we see as gravity. 175 00:09:12,748 --> 00:09:15,616 And it really is the space-time that gets warped. 176 00:09:15,618 --> 00:09:17,251 It's time as well as space. 177 00:09:17,253 --> 00:09:20,722 So, if you travel close to a strong gravitational field, 178 00:09:20,724 --> 00:09:25,093 you feel the flow of time differently than in outer space. 179 00:09:25,095 --> 00:09:30,531 Freeman: The relativity of time causes a lot of strange effects, 180 00:09:30,533 --> 00:09:32,634 such as time running faster for astronauts 181 00:09:32,636 --> 00:09:34,635 than people on Earth. 182 00:09:34,637 --> 00:09:37,839 But Einstein's solution to the mystery of time 183 00:09:37,841 --> 00:09:41,409 opens up an even more challenging notion. 184 00:09:41,411 --> 00:09:43,177 If we look around, 185 00:09:43,179 --> 00:09:48,550 we see that all of space exists right here, right now. 186 00:09:48,552 --> 00:09:51,920 So, doesn't it follow that all of time -- 187 00:09:51,922 --> 00:09:56,057 past, present, and future -- already exists, as well? 188 00:09:56,059 --> 00:10:01,130 Could it be that the future is already here? 189 00:10:01,132 --> 00:10:03,098 Physics says that all the moments of time 190 00:10:03,100 --> 00:10:04,700 are equally real, 191 00:10:04,702 --> 00:10:06,702 and that tempts us into saying 192 00:10:06,704 --> 00:10:09,004 that they all exist simultaneously, 193 00:10:09,006 --> 00:10:12,207 they all exist now, but that's not what it's like. 194 00:10:12,209 --> 00:10:13,742 Different moments of time 195 00:10:13,744 --> 00:10:15,377 are really like different places in space. 196 00:10:15,379 --> 00:10:16,512 They're not here. 197 00:10:16,514 --> 00:10:18,447 They exist, but they're somewhere else. 198 00:10:18,449 --> 00:10:20,482 The difference is that, unlike space, 199 00:10:20,484 --> 00:10:22,884 we can't help but experience time 200 00:10:22,886 --> 00:10:24,986 one moment after the other. 201 00:10:24,988 --> 00:10:27,956 We can't go back to moments in the past, 202 00:10:27,958 --> 00:10:32,327 and we can't, right now, talk to moments in the future. 203 00:10:32,329 --> 00:10:35,563 Freeman: This sort of temporal dislocation 204 00:10:35,565 --> 00:10:40,034 seems to contradict the laws of physics and human experience. 205 00:10:41,536 --> 00:10:43,004 Or does it? 206 00:10:44,306 --> 00:10:46,374 Maybe not. 207 00:10:46,376 --> 00:10:47,908 This man would argue 208 00:10:47,910 --> 00:10:52,113 that the world is filled with people who are unstuck in time 209 00:10:52,115 --> 00:10:57,185 and that time itself may be all in our heads. 210 00:11:03,524 --> 00:11:08,395 Is time the steady beat behind the Universe? 211 00:11:08,397 --> 00:11:10,831 Or is time something that changes 212 00:11:10,833 --> 00:11:14,301 from place to place and person to person? 213 00:11:14,303 --> 00:11:15,702 The older we get, 214 00:11:15,704 --> 00:11:19,673 the faster the currents of time seem to carry us along. 215 00:11:19,675 --> 00:11:24,946 Our relationship to time changes as we age. 216 00:11:27,850 --> 00:11:31,487 Studies show that the passage of time 217 00:11:31,489 --> 00:11:34,791 seems to increase by the square root of your age. 218 00:11:34,793 --> 00:11:37,360 So, if at 10 years old, it's 1:1, 219 00:11:37,362 --> 00:11:41,197 when you're 20, it's 1:1.4. 220 00:11:41,199 --> 00:11:45,535 And by the time you're 60, it's 1:2.44, 221 00:11:45,537 --> 00:11:48,804 about 2½ times faster. 222 00:11:48,806 --> 00:11:52,274 We all experience time at one second per second, 223 00:11:52,276 --> 00:11:54,443 but it doesn't feel that way. 224 00:11:54,445 --> 00:11:57,779 David Eagleman of the Baylor College of Medicine 225 00:11:57,781 --> 00:11:59,714 has spent much of his career 226 00:11:59,716 --> 00:12:02,784 puzzling out how humans perceive time. 227 00:12:02,786 --> 00:12:05,788 He's found that our perception of time 228 00:12:05,790 --> 00:12:09,726 is governed by biological and psychological states. 229 00:12:09,728 --> 00:12:12,696 Many people will wake up just before their alarm clock, 230 00:12:12,698 --> 00:12:14,966 because as their body's circadian rhythm 231 00:12:14,968 --> 00:12:16,935 is moving along, 232 00:12:16,937 --> 00:12:18,804 the signals in their body tell them... 233 00:12:18,806 --> 00:12:20,138 [ Clicks tongue ] 234 00:12:20,140 --> 00:12:22,408 ...This is the time to wake up, and then they pop awake. 235 00:12:22,410 --> 00:12:25,443 Freeman: Our time sense can also be altered 236 00:12:25,445 --> 00:12:28,180 by things such as sensory deprivation, 237 00:12:28,182 --> 00:12:29,948 overstimulation, 238 00:12:29,950 --> 00:12:32,951 and altered states of consciousness. 239 00:12:32,953 --> 00:12:35,687 So, for example, when people smoke marijuana, 240 00:12:35,689 --> 00:12:39,424 they sometimes feel like, "Wow, I've been standing here forever. 241 00:12:39,426 --> 00:12:40,725 How long have I been here?" 242 00:12:40,727 --> 00:12:43,761 And it's as though their passage of time is going slowly, 243 00:12:43,763 --> 00:12:46,397 but it's not exactly about slow time perception. 244 00:12:46,399 --> 00:12:50,401 I believe it's about their inability to nail down a memory, 245 00:12:50,403 --> 00:12:52,637 a landmark of when they arrived there. 246 00:12:52,639 --> 00:12:54,105 And without that landmark, 247 00:12:54,107 --> 00:12:57,075 it feels like they've been there for a very long time. 248 00:12:59,612 --> 00:13:01,913 Freeman: If you've ever been in an accident, 249 00:13:01,915 --> 00:13:04,583 you might have experienced the strange feeling 250 00:13:04,585 --> 00:13:06,685 that the whole event was playing in slow motion. 251 00:13:06,687 --> 00:13:09,822 But unlike a narcotic haze, 252 00:13:09,824 --> 00:13:13,392 you recall everything in vivid detail. 253 00:13:13,394 --> 00:13:17,362 This is another case of memory warping time. 254 00:13:17,364 --> 00:13:19,931 What happens during a really high-intensity event is 255 00:13:19,933 --> 00:13:24,135 you have an emergency control center in your brain 256 00:13:24,137 --> 00:13:25,736 that kicks into gear 257 00:13:25,738 --> 00:13:29,674 and lays down very dense memories during that event. 258 00:13:29,676 --> 00:13:32,610 So, it seems like it must have taken a long time. 259 00:13:32,612 --> 00:13:34,879 Freeman: At any given moment, 260 00:13:34,881 --> 00:13:37,015 the brain processes and synchronizes 261 00:13:37,017 --> 00:13:40,285 an enormous amount of information. 262 00:13:40,287 --> 00:13:42,520 Simple acts are actually small miracles 263 00:13:42,522 --> 00:13:45,322 of the mind's speed and power. 264 00:13:45,324 --> 00:13:48,125 When you snap your fingers, it looks like it's simultaneous. 265 00:13:48,127 --> 00:13:49,993 It looks like the sight and the sound 266 00:13:49,995 --> 00:13:51,461 are happening at the same time. 267 00:13:51,463 --> 00:13:53,796 But in fact, what's happening is... 268 00:13:55,131 --> 00:13:57,499 ...Your auditory system is able to take information 269 00:13:57,501 --> 00:14:00,669 coming in through the ears and process that very quickly, 270 00:14:00,671 --> 00:14:02,604 whereas your visual system is much slower. 271 00:14:04,574 --> 00:14:07,710 So, what happens is your brain hears the sound, 272 00:14:07,712 --> 00:14:09,412 and then it sees the sight, 273 00:14:09,414 --> 00:14:12,583 and somehow it has to take both of those 274 00:14:12,585 --> 00:14:14,752 and stitch them together and serve up... 275 00:14:14,754 --> 00:14:16,153 [Clicks tongue] 276 00:14:16,155 --> 00:14:18,089 ...A single story, which is that they were simultaneous, 277 00:14:18,091 --> 00:14:19,591 even though the signals are arriving at the brain 278 00:14:19,593 --> 00:14:21,360 at different times. 279 00:14:21,362 --> 00:14:23,728 This whole thing is really smeared out in time, 280 00:14:23,730 --> 00:14:26,097 and yet it doesn't feel that way to us. 281 00:14:26,099 --> 00:14:28,267 It feels as though the whole thing is simultaneous. 282 00:14:28,269 --> 00:14:31,170 Freeman: It takes a few millionths of a second 283 00:14:31,172 --> 00:14:33,005 for your brain to put together information 284 00:14:33,007 --> 00:14:35,975 and serve it up to your consciousness, 285 00:14:35,977 --> 00:14:40,813 which means that we're all living a tiny bit in the past. 286 00:14:40,815 --> 00:14:44,617 This time delay is the tradeoff our brains make 287 00:14:44,619 --> 00:14:48,454 to give us the best story of what happened. 288 00:14:48,456 --> 00:14:51,525 But when the brain doesn't get the story right, 289 00:14:51,527 --> 00:14:54,229 it can change your relationship with time. 290 00:14:54,231 --> 00:14:57,766 Your personal time becomes different from others', 291 00:14:57,768 --> 00:15:01,169 and that can have very bad consequences. 292 00:15:01,171 --> 00:15:04,239 Medical journals tell of the strange case 293 00:15:04,241 --> 00:15:06,608 of the man who went for a drive 294 00:15:06,610 --> 00:15:09,811 and noticed that the trees and buildings by the road 295 00:15:09,813 --> 00:15:11,013 were speeding by 296 00:15:11,015 --> 00:15:14,583 as if he were driving at 200 miles per hour. 297 00:15:14,585 --> 00:15:17,119 He eased up on the accelerator, 298 00:15:17,121 --> 00:15:20,355 but the cityscape continued to whiz by. 299 00:15:20,357 --> 00:15:24,626 This man perceived the world as having accelerated. 300 00:15:24,628 --> 00:15:28,097 In reality, he had slowed down. 301 00:15:28,099 --> 00:15:31,166 He walked and talked in slow motion. 302 00:15:31,168 --> 00:15:35,571 He had become unstuck in time. 303 00:15:35,573 --> 00:15:38,306 It turned out that his time sickness 304 00:15:38,308 --> 00:15:41,410 was caused by a brain tumor. 305 00:15:41,412 --> 00:15:46,481 Whatever time is, it's deeply wired into us. 306 00:15:46,483 --> 00:15:52,321 We are all clocks with our own internal time. 307 00:15:52,323 --> 00:15:53,822 David Eagleman suspects 308 00:15:53,824 --> 00:15:57,292 that going even slightly out of sync with the flow of time 309 00:15:57,294 --> 00:16:01,096 can lead to serious mental illness. 310 00:16:01,098 --> 00:16:03,332 I think that schizophrenia might fundamentally be 311 00:16:03,334 --> 00:16:05,334 a disorder of time perception. 312 00:16:05,336 --> 00:16:08,837 So, imagine if there were some deficit in your time perception 313 00:16:08,839 --> 00:16:11,907 where you didn't know if your own actions were coming 314 00:16:11,909 --> 00:16:15,110 before or after the sensory consequences. 315 00:16:15,112 --> 00:16:16,378 What would happen is 316 00:16:16,380 --> 00:16:18,981 you would have a very fragmented cognition. 317 00:16:18,983 --> 00:16:20,582 You wouldn't know which things you caused 318 00:16:20,584 --> 00:16:21,950 and which things you didn't cause. 319 00:16:24,020 --> 00:16:26,955 Freeman: To show how flexible our personal time can be, 320 00:16:26,957 --> 00:16:29,491 David devised an experiment 321 00:16:29,493 --> 00:16:33,961 that subtly warps a test subject's perception of time. 322 00:16:36,531 --> 00:16:39,800 Eagleman: So, imagine that I have you press a button 323 00:16:39,802 --> 00:16:41,802 and that causes a flash of light. 324 00:16:46,208 --> 00:16:48,343 Now I inject a very small delay, 325 00:16:48,345 --> 00:16:51,680 so that when you hit the button, the flash of light comes, 326 00:16:51,682 --> 00:16:54,816 let's say, 1/10 of a second later. 327 00:16:54,818 --> 00:16:57,686 What happens is your brain gets used to that delay. 328 00:16:57,688 --> 00:17:00,756 It starts understanding that when it puts out this act, 329 00:17:00,758 --> 00:17:04,060 the sensory feedback is a little bit slower than it expected. 330 00:17:04,062 --> 00:17:05,962 So, it starts adjusting to that, 331 00:17:05,964 --> 00:17:08,931 and it starts to seem simultaneous to you. 332 00:17:08,933 --> 00:17:12,100 Now, if I remove the delay -- 333 00:17:12,102 --> 00:17:14,636 so now you hit the button and the flash happens immediately -- 334 00:17:14,638 --> 00:17:16,004 you will believe 335 00:17:16,006 --> 00:17:19,541 that the flash happened before you pressed the button. 336 00:17:21,611 --> 00:17:24,379 This is exactly what happens in schizophrenia. 337 00:17:24,381 --> 00:17:26,915 Somebody will make an act and say, "It wasn't me. 338 00:17:26,917 --> 00:17:30,686 I don't feel like I was the one who caused that." 339 00:17:30,688 --> 00:17:34,356 Freeman: Time seems to vary from person to person, 340 00:17:34,358 --> 00:17:37,625 and the elastic nature of our subjective time 341 00:17:37,627 --> 00:17:41,963 has caused David to wonder whether time is, in fact, real. 342 00:17:41,965 --> 00:17:44,966 Eagleman: I think that time might be 343 00:17:44,968 --> 00:17:48,571 the most stubborn psychological filter that we have, 344 00:17:48,573 --> 00:17:51,507 and that when we start really reaching down below that, 345 00:17:51,509 --> 00:17:53,410 when we start really figuring out 346 00:17:53,412 --> 00:17:55,546 how time is constructed by the brain, 347 00:17:55,548 --> 00:17:57,849 we're going to have to go back to physics 348 00:17:57,851 --> 00:18:00,752 and rejig all of the equations there. 349 00:18:00,754 --> 00:18:04,622 Freeman: Is it possible to eliminate the human factor 350 00:18:04,624 --> 00:18:06,290 and pull time completely out 351 00:18:06,292 --> 00:18:08,792 of our physical description of the Universe? 352 00:18:08,794 --> 00:18:11,895 This man says "yes." 353 00:18:11,897 --> 00:18:14,297 He's rejigged Einstein's equations, 354 00:18:14,299 --> 00:18:18,701 and he's found that time may not exist at all. 355 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,188 Declaring that time is an illusion 356 00:18:25,190 --> 00:18:26,523 may sound radical, 357 00:18:26,525 --> 00:18:29,960 but the denial of time is an old idea -- 358 00:18:29,962 --> 00:18:33,831 2,500 years old. 359 00:18:33,833 --> 00:18:38,402 In 500 B.C., the philosopher Parmenides 360 00:18:38,404 --> 00:18:41,304 declared that motion is impossible 361 00:18:41,306 --> 00:18:43,807 because for an object to move any distance, 362 00:18:43,809 --> 00:18:45,442 it would have to pass through 363 00:18:45,444 --> 00:18:47,878 an infinite series of fractional steps 364 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,280 to get from one place to another, 365 00:18:50,282 --> 00:18:54,017 and no one can take infinite steps. 366 00:18:54,019 --> 00:18:58,688 And if motion is impossible, then change is also impossible. 367 00:18:58,690 --> 00:19:02,092 So, therefore, time must be an illusion. 368 00:19:02,094 --> 00:19:05,495 No one knew quite what to make of this. 369 00:19:05,497 --> 00:19:07,564 Surely, motion is real. 370 00:19:07,566 --> 00:19:11,735 Things do change and time does pass, right? 371 00:19:15,307 --> 00:19:17,275 Maybe not. 372 00:19:17,277 --> 00:19:20,245 In an ancient village in the English countryside, 373 00:19:20,247 --> 00:19:23,348 this man thinks that the laws of quantum physics prove 374 00:19:23,350 --> 00:19:26,217 that Parmenides was right. 375 00:19:26,219 --> 00:19:31,254 His name is Julian Barbour. 376 00:19:31,256 --> 00:19:34,857 Decades ago, he began carefully laying out a mathematical case 377 00:19:34,859 --> 00:19:38,661 that the universe doesn't need time, 378 00:19:38,663 --> 00:19:45,435 which is a bit odd, as he's surrounded by the past. 379 00:19:45,437 --> 00:19:50,441 We're standing in the town, which is a very ancient street, 380 00:19:50,443 --> 00:19:54,613 and behind me is my home, built 1659. 381 00:19:54,615 --> 00:19:56,415 Newton was 17 then, 382 00:19:56,417 --> 00:19:59,585 just seriously beginning to think about time and motion. 383 00:19:59,587 --> 00:20:02,121 Freeman: If time doesn't exist, 384 00:20:02,123 --> 00:20:05,791 what's all this? 385 00:20:05,793 --> 00:20:10,696 To Julian, everything we see is an archaeological dig. 386 00:20:10,698 --> 00:20:13,099 Things are there first, 387 00:20:13,101 --> 00:20:16,969 and time is deduced from it afterwards. 388 00:20:16,971 --> 00:20:20,440 He believes this 1,000-year-old church 389 00:20:20,442 --> 00:20:22,943 and these 14th-century wall paintings 390 00:20:22,945 --> 00:20:28,015 are proof that the whole of time exists in slices of space. 391 00:20:28,017 --> 00:20:31,986 Barbour: Our past is just another world, 392 00:20:31,988 --> 00:20:35,524 or it's another possible configuration of the Universe. 393 00:20:35,526 --> 00:20:37,126 It's another now. 394 00:20:37,128 --> 00:20:41,230 [ Bell tolls ] 395 00:20:41,232 --> 00:20:43,466 And this is literally true. 396 00:20:43,468 --> 00:20:47,002 The instant is not in time. Time is in the instant. 397 00:20:49,339 --> 00:20:51,740 Freeman: Julian's radical view of time 398 00:20:51,742 --> 00:20:54,709 grows out of the Wheeler-DeWitt equation, 399 00:20:54,711 --> 00:20:58,146 a mathematical exercise from the 1960s 400 00:20:58,148 --> 00:21:01,682 that sought to reconcile Einstein's relativity 401 00:21:01,684 --> 00:21:04,152 with quantum mechanics. 402 00:21:04,154 --> 00:21:07,155 A strange thing happens when you do this. 403 00:21:07,157 --> 00:21:11,861 You're left with an equation that has no "T" for time. 404 00:21:11,863 --> 00:21:16,734 Since this runs counter to observable reality, 405 00:21:16,736 --> 00:21:19,671 most saw the equation as further proof 406 00:21:19,673 --> 00:21:22,641 that quantum physics and relativity theory 407 00:21:22,643 --> 00:21:24,175 don't play well together. 408 00:21:24,177 --> 00:21:25,310 [ Bell tolls ] 409 00:21:25,312 --> 00:21:29,514 But to Julian, it was a revelation. 410 00:21:29,516 --> 00:21:33,685 There is no unique history in quantum mechanics. 411 00:21:33,687 --> 00:21:34,853 And if the evidence 412 00:21:34,855 --> 00:21:37,489 from the attempts to combine quantum mechanics 413 00:21:37,491 --> 00:21:40,058 with Einstein's general relativity is right, 414 00:21:40,060 --> 00:21:41,393 there is no time at all. 415 00:21:41,395 --> 00:21:44,696 Freeman: So at the deepest level of reality, 416 00:21:44,698 --> 00:21:46,798 time doesn't exist. 417 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,102 What matters is how objects relate to each other 418 00:21:50,104 --> 00:21:53,271 in freeze frames of space. 419 00:21:53,273 --> 00:21:54,906 My view of the Universe -- 420 00:21:54,908 --> 00:21:57,776 it's just like a huge collection of snapshots 421 00:21:57,778 --> 00:22:01,479 which are immensely, richly structured. 422 00:22:01,481 --> 00:22:05,017 They're not in any communication with each other. 423 00:22:05,019 --> 00:22:07,186 They're worlds unto themselves. 424 00:22:07,188 --> 00:22:09,855 But each world is so rich 425 00:22:09,857 --> 00:22:12,992 that it's, so to speak, part of this world. 426 00:22:12,994 --> 00:22:14,994 It's snapshots within snapshots. 427 00:22:14,996 --> 00:22:18,531 This is really what our life is about. 428 00:22:18,533 --> 00:22:21,033 Freeman: Our brains assemble these frozen moments 429 00:22:21,035 --> 00:22:22,368 and play them in our minds 430 00:22:22,370 --> 00:22:25,037 the same way that still photographs 431 00:22:25,039 --> 00:22:27,139 played at 24 frames per second 432 00:22:27,141 --> 00:22:31,277 make the images you're watching now seem to move. 433 00:22:31,279 --> 00:22:34,313 But nothing is moving. 434 00:22:34,315 --> 00:22:38,284 What we call "time" is an illusion. 435 00:22:40,821 --> 00:22:43,422 Barbour: In some very deep sense, 436 00:22:43,424 --> 00:22:46,358 the Universe, the quantum universe, 437 00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:47,926 is just static. 438 00:22:47,928 --> 00:22:49,361 Nothing changes. 439 00:22:49,363 --> 00:22:51,296 Freeman: And according to Julian, 440 00:22:51,298 --> 00:22:53,432 all of these snapshots of the Universe 441 00:22:53,434 --> 00:22:57,269 exist simultaneously. 442 00:22:57,271 --> 00:23:02,807 If I were to say that my yesterday no longer exists, 443 00:23:02,809 --> 00:23:07,212 it would be like the number 13 saying that 11 has died. 444 00:23:07,214 --> 00:23:10,615 Mathematicians would regard that as ridiculous. 445 00:23:10,617 --> 00:23:13,819 This instant is so vital and so alive, 446 00:23:13,821 --> 00:23:16,388 but in a way, it's eternal. 447 00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:19,358 This when you translate that into mathematics, 448 00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:21,026 it's eternal. 449 00:23:24,164 --> 00:23:28,401 Julian Barbour's view of time may sound radical, 450 00:23:28,403 --> 00:23:32,105 but it's taken very seriously by the physics community, 451 00:23:32,107 --> 00:23:35,008 which doesn't mean everyone agrees with him. 452 00:23:35,010 --> 00:23:36,342 Far from it. 453 00:23:36,344 --> 00:23:38,645 Julian's close friend Lee Smolin 454 00:23:38,647 --> 00:23:40,647 is also one of his biggest critics. 455 00:23:40,649 --> 00:23:42,982 Smolin: Time is not an illusion. 456 00:23:42,984 --> 00:23:45,985 Time is not a construction. 457 00:23:45,987 --> 00:23:48,387 Time is not emergent. 458 00:23:48,389 --> 00:23:51,590 Time really is real. 459 00:23:51,592 --> 00:23:53,959 The idea that time is an illusion 460 00:23:53,961 --> 00:23:56,527 has ignited a civil war in physics -- 461 00:23:56,529 --> 00:24:00,297 a war that pits friend against friend. 462 00:24:06,861 --> 00:24:13,000 Is time an illusion we create to make sense of the Universe? 463 00:24:13,002 --> 00:24:17,004 Neurologists and physicists say it might be so. 464 00:24:17,006 --> 00:24:19,564 But there's another camp that says we can't ignore 465 00:24:19,565 --> 00:24:22,432 what our senses and observations tell us, 466 00:24:22,434 --> 00:24:26,636 that time really does exist. 467 00:24:29,574 --> 00:24:31,508 In this view, 468 00:24:31,510 --> 00:24:34,578 we experience the world as a flow of moments 469 00:24:34,580 --> 00:24:37,114 because that's the way nature is. 470 00:24:37,116 --> 00:24:40,884 Passage of time is a basic truth 471 00:24:40,886 --> 00:24:46,823 and, in fact, may be the one true thing in the Universe. 472 00:24:46,825 --> 00:24:50,060 Tim Maudlin is a philosopher of physics 473 00:24:50,062 --> 00:24:51,729 at Rutgers University. 474 00:24:53,499 --> 00:24:56,301 To say that the passage of time is really an illusion 475 00:24:56,303 --> 00:24:59,171 suggests that it's not really, really the case 476 00:24:59,173 --> 00:25:01,173 that I'm getting older all the time, 477 00:25:01,175 --> 00:25:04,910 that I should be worried that my death is, every day, 478 00:25:04,912 --> 00:25:07,479 one day closer to me and so on. 479 00:25:07,481 --> 00:25:10,449 But I just can't believe that. 480 00:25:10,451 --> 00:25:13,486 As hard as I try, I can't believe it, 481 00:25:13,488 --> 00:25:15,688 and it doesn't fit with the world I live in. 482 00:25:15,690 --> 00:25:17,557 Freeman: For Tim, 483 00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:21,962 it is just common sense that time exists. 484 00:25:21,964 --> 00:25:25,800 So, why do some physicists deny it? 485 00:25:25,802 --> 00:25:28,670 Tim thinks it's an occupational hazard 486 00:25:28,672 --> 00:25:30,973 of working with math. 487 00:25:30,975 --> 00:25:33,943 Our representations in physics are all mathematical, 488 00:25:33,945 --> 00:25:35,912 and mathematical objects are not in time. 489 00:25:35,914 --> 00:25:38,314 Mathematical objects don't change. 490 00:25:38,316 --> 00:25:42,218 So, if you work too much with numbers 491 00:25:42,220 --> 00:25:44,687 and numbers don't change 492 00:25:44,689 --> 00:25:47,156 and you're using that to represent the world, 493 00:25:47,158 --> 00:25:48,524 it might seem hard to see 494 00:25:48,526 --> 00:25:51,493 how the world itself can really be changing. 495 00:25:51,495 --> 00:25:53,895 People seem to be stuck on the idea 496 00:25:53,897 --> 00:25:55,864 that the world has the features 497 00:25:55,866 --> 00:25:58,200 of the mathematics that they use to represent it. 498 00:25:58,202 --> 00:25:59,467 That allowed people 499 00:25:59,469 --> 00:26:02,137 to get carried away with their mathematics 500 00:26:02,139 --> 00:26:04,640 and lose sight of the physical world. 501 00:26:04,642 --> 00:26:06,675 Freeman: Julian Barbour believes 502 00:26:06,677 --> 00:26:11,180 space is all there is and time is an illusion. 503 00:26:11,182 --> 00:26:14,817 Tim says Julian has got it all wrong. 504 00:26:14,819 --> 00:26:19,189 We need time, but we don't need space. 505 00:26:19,191 --> 00:26:21,992 Maudlin: We can make space not fundamental, 506 00:26:21,994 --> 00:26:24,261 but time remains fundamental. 507 00:26:24,263 --> 00:26:26,696 There doesn't have to be anything more than time, 508 00:26:26,698 --> 00:26:28,531 and you can't do it the other way around. 509 00:26:28,533 --> 00:26:30,600 You have to start with space and then get time. 510 00:26:30,602 --> 00:26:34,903 So, time is at the very bottom level. 511 00:26:34,905 --> 00:26:37,306 I think even this is what the physics is telling us, 512 00:26:37,308 --> 00:26:39,808 although we haven't been paying enough attention to it. 513 00:26:41,644 --> 00:26:43,979 Freeman: Did space come first... 514 00:26:43,981 --> 00:26:46,282 Or did time come first? 515 00:26:46,284 --> 00:26:48,518 This argument leads all the way back 516 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,021 to the explosive birth of our Universe -- 517 00:26:51,023 --> 00:26:52,456 the Big Bang. 518 00:26:55,394 --> 00:26:59,664 Physicists agree that the Big Bang created space. 519 00:26:59,666 --> 00:27:04,402 They don't agree on whether it also created time. 520 00:27:04,404 --> 00:27:06,838 [ Mid-tempo jazz music plays ] 521 00:27:08,807 --> 00:27:11,775 Smolin: There's a lot of people in physics and philosophy 522 00:27:11,777 --> 00:27:13,877 who think that time is an illusion, 523 00:27:13,879 --> 00:27:15,211 that what's really true 524 00:27:15,213 --> 00:27:18,080 at the deepest, deepest level is timeless, 525 00:27:18,082 --> 00:27:20,248 is outside of time. 526 00:27:20,250 --> 00:27:21,617 And I don't believe that. 527 00:27:21,619 --> 00:27:23,219 I used to believe that, 528 00:27:23,221 --> 00:27:24,787 but I've come to believe 529 00:27:24,789 --> 00:27:27,056 that time is really, really real. 530 00:27:27,058 --> 00:27:28,591 Freeman: Lee Smolin believes 531 00:27:28,593 --> 00:27:31,761 that time is older than the Universe -- 532 00:27:31,763 --> 00:27:34,564 it was here before the Big Bang, 533 00:27:34,566 --> 00:27:36,966 and it will be here after the Universe ends. 534 00:27:36,968 --> 00:27:40,236 And he thinks he can prove it 535 00:27:40,238 --> 00:27:43,873 by looking closely at how particles of light behave 536 00:27:43,875 --> 00:27:45,975 over long distances. 537 00:27:45,977 --> 00:27:48,612 One of the core laws of physics states 538 00:27:48,614 --> 00:27:53,684 that light travels at 186,282 miles per second. 539 00:27:53,686 --> 00:27:56,253 If time is an illusion, 540 00:27:56,255 --> 00:28:00,491 then this will be true everywhere in the Universe, 541 00:28:00,493 --> 00:28:02,893 no matter where we look. 542 00:28:02,895 --> 00:28:05,629 But if time is real, 543 00:28:05,631 --> 00:28:09,333 it's possible that the laws of physics have changed 544 00:28:09,335 --> 00:28:13,070 as the Universe has aged. 545 00:28:13,072 --> 00:28:16,373 If a basic law of physics such as the speed of light 546 00:28:16,375 --> 00:28:19,977 doesn't hold true out in the oldest part of the Universe, 547 00:28:19,979 --> 00:28:22,746 we'll know that physics has evolved 548 00:28:22,748 --> 00:28:25,249 since the Universe was born, 549 00:28:25,251 --> 00:28:29,787 so time can't be an illusion. 550 00:28:29,789 --> 00:28:31,356 There should be some experiments 551 00:28:31,358 --> 00:28:33,291 where, if you look very sensitively, 552 00:28:33,293 --> 00:28:36,094 maybe the speed of light is not Universal. 553 00:28:36,096 --> 00:28:38,797 And there are such experiments which are being done. 554 00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:40,699 [ Beeping ] 555 00:28:40,701 --> 00:28:42,601 Freeman: The Fermi Space Telescope 556 00:28:42,603 --> 00:28:44,636 is one such experiment. 557 00:28:44,638 --> 00:28:47,706 Fermi records gamma-ray bursts -- 558 00:28:47,708 --> 00:28:50,208 strange blasts of energy 559 00:28:50,210 --> 00:28:52,811 from the farthest reaches of the Universe. 560 00:28:52,813 --> 00:28:56,747 These bursts give us the chance to check out the laws of physics 561 00:28:56,749 --> 00:29:00,017 as they were 13 billion years ago. 562 00:29:01,486 --> 00:29:04,855 Imagine two photons race out of a gamma-ray burst 563 00:29:04,857 --> 00:29:07,892 10 billion light-years away. 564 00:29:07,894 --> 00:29:13,231 One photon bursts with more energy than the other. 565 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,268 In our part of the Universe, 566 00:29:17,270 --> 00:29:22,174 both photons will travel at exactly the same speed. 567 00:29:22,176 --> 00:29:24,243 But if the physics of light are different 568 00:29:24,245 --> 00:29:26,879 in an older part of the Universe, 569 00:29:26,881 --> 00:29:29,714 Lee believes the higher-energy photon 570 00:29:29,716 --> 00:29:31,850 should fall slightly behind. 571 00:29:35,755 --> 00:29:37,723 Smolin: It would break down at the point where, 572 00:29:37,725 --> 00:29:39,658 after 10 billion years, 573 00:29:39,660 --> 00:29:41,761 one of them would be a second or two or three seconds ahead, 574 00:29:41,763 --> 00:29:45,865 but that's enough to be detected. 575 00:29:45,867 --> 00:29:48,735 Even one second worth over 10 billion years -- 576 00:29:48,737 --> 00:29:50,103 we can detect that. 577 00:29:50,105 --> 00:29:52,573 Freeman: The gamma-ray burst data from Fermi 578 00:29:52,575 --> 00:29:55,276 will come in over the next few years. 579 00:29:55,278 --> 00:29:57,545 Lee may soon have his proof 580 00:29:57,547 --> 00:30:00,715 that the now of 13 billion years ago 581 00:30:00,717 --> 00:30:03,551 is truly different from our now, 582 00:30:03,553 --> 00:30:07,388 and therefore, time must be real. 583 00:30:07,390 --> 00:30:11,492 Conclusive proof that the laws of physics change over time 584 00:30:11,494 --> 00:30:13,194 would settle the debate 585 00:30:13,196 --> 00:30:16,964 over whether time is real or an illusion. 586 00:30:16,966 --> 00:30:21,134 But it still leaves a big question unanswered -- 587 00:30:21,136 --> 00:30:23,671 why is there time? 588 00:30:23,673 --> 00:30:27,308 In theory, physics doesn't seem to need time, 589 00:30:27,310 --> 00:30:30,879 and yet we feel ourselves moving through it. 590 00:30:30,881 --> 00:30:33,882 If time wasn't born in our minds, 591 00:30:33,884 --> 00:30:36,084 then where did it come from? 592 00:30:37,821 --> 00:30:40,490 Sean Carroll thinks he has the answer. 593 00:30:40,492 --> 00:30:44,159 But it takes an evil-twin Universe 594 00:30:44,161 --> 00:30:47,996 with backward-flowing time to make it all work. 595 00:30:54,730 --> 00:30:57,765 Theories abound about how time works, 596 00:30:57,767 --> 00:31:01,102 in the Universe and in our minds. 597 00:31:01,104 --> 00:31:04,840 But it's a rare physicist who asks the question, 598 00:31:04,842 --> 00:31:07,643 "Why is there time?" 599 00:31:07,645 --> 00:31:11,080 If time isn't something we humans invented, 600 00:31:11,082 --> 00:31:14,851 then where did it come from? 601 00:31:14,853 --> 00:31:19,524 Sean Carroll thinks he knows. 602 00:31:19,526 --> 00:31:22,193 Sean is a theoretical physicist 603 00:31:22,195 --> 00:31:25,296 at the California Institute of Technology. 604 00:31:25,298 --> 00:31:26,597 Time is real. 605 00:31:26,599 --> 00:31:29,233 We use it every day. The evidence is all around us. 606 00:31:29,235 --> 00:31:30,501 But as scientists, 607 00:31:30,503 --> 00:31:32,770 the more we think about what time really means, 608 00:31:32,772 --> 00:31:34,439 the more mysterious it becomes. 609 00:31:34,441 --> 00:31:37,142 Freeman: Sean accepts the common-sense idea 610 00:31:37,144 --> 00:31:40,811 that time moves forward from the past to the future, 611 00:31:40,813 --> 00:31:42,479 like an arrow. 612 00:31:42,481 --> 00:31:45,449 But why does time have a direction? 613 00:31:45,451 --> 00:31:48,151 Sean believes the answer is closely tied 614 00:31:48,153 --> 00:31:51,388 to something called entropy. 615 00:31:56,928 --> 00:32:00,196 What makes time special is a law of physics, 616 00:32:00,198 --> 00:32:01,631 the second law of thermodynamics. 617 00:32:01,633 --> 00:32:03,466 The second law essentially says 618 00:32:03,468 --> 00:32:05,968 that as time goes on, entropy increases. 619 00:32:05,970 --> 00:32:09,906 Entropy is telling us how messy things are, 620 00:32:09,908 --> 00:32:12,809 how disorderly, how chaotic things are in the Universe. 621 00:32:12,811 --> 00:32:14,077 So in the past, 622 00:32:14,079 --> 00:32:16,079 if you go all the way back to the early Universe, 623 00:32:16,081 --> 00:32:17,614 it was very organized. 624 00:32:17,616 --> 00:32:20,183 It was like this delicately arranged configuration 625 00:32:20,185 --> 00:32:21,518 of billiard balls. 626 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,853 As time goes on, it's like we're playing pool -- 627 00:32:23,855 --> 00:32:25,422 the first thing we do... 628 00:32:27,157 --> 00:32:30,827 ...Is we increase the chaos of the Universe. 629 00:32:30,829 --> 00:32:33,263 As time goes on in the Universe as a whole, 630 00:32:33,265 --> 00:32:36,066 disorderliness, entropy goes up. 631 00:32:38,269 --> 00:32:41,338 Freeman: Since the explosive birth of the Universe, 632 00:32:41,340 --> 00:32:43,673 the increase of entropy is the reason 633 00:32:43,675 --> 00:32:47,210 why the past is different from the future... 634 00:32:47,212 --> 00:32:50,946 Why there is an arrow of time... 635 00:32:50,948 --> 00:32:53,315 Why we remember the past... 636 00:32:53,317 --> 00:32:55,551 Why we grow older... 637 00:32:55,553 --> 00:32:58,721 Why evolution happens the way it does. 638 00:32:58,723 --> 00:33:03,993 It's all because of this increase of entropy. 639 00:33:05,662 --> 00:33:08,798 So, where's the mystery? Entropy goes up as time goes on. 640 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:09,866 But interestingly, 641 00:33:09,868 --> 00:33:11,868 in the fundamental laws of physics 642 00:33:11,870 --> 00:33:13,604 underlying everything around us, 643 00:33:13,606 --> 00:33:16,173 there is no difference between the past and the future. 644 00:33:16,175 --> 00:33:19,477 The laws handed down to us by Isaac Newton, 645 00:33:19,479 --> 00:33:21,946 Albert Einstein, even in quantum mechanics, 646 00:33:21,948 --> 00:33:23,280 you have no distinction 647 00:33:23,282 --> 00:33:26,417 between one direction of time and the other. 648 00:33:26,419 --> 00:33:28,786 So, if you have a very simple physical system, 649 00:33:28,788 --> 00:33:30,254 like just two billiard balls, 650 00:33:30,256 --> 00:33:31,522 when you knock one into the other... 651 00:33:33,892 --> 00:33:35,326 ...There is no difference 652 00:33:35,328 --> 00:33:36,861 between one direction of time and the other. 653 00:33:36,863 --> 00:33:38,629 You could play that movie backwards, 654 00:33:38,631 --> 00:33:40,030 it would look perfectly normal. 655 00:33:40,032 --> 00:33:42,966 It's only when we get to complicated, macroscopic systems 656 00:33:42,968 --> 00:33:45,970 that there's a difference between the past and the future. 657 00:33:45,972 --> 00:33:48,238 When we have lots of balls on the billiard table, 658 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,074 things happen in one direction of time 659 00:33:50,076 --> 00:33:51,275 but not the other. 660 00:33:51,277 --> 00:33:53,611 Or when all hell breaks loose in the pool hall. 661 00:33:53,613 --> 00:33:54,879 [ Both grunting ] 662 00:34:03,055 --> 00:34:05,957 So, now we have noise, 663 00:34:05,959 --> 00:34:08,726 breaking glass, blood splattering. 664 00:34:08,728 --> 00:34:09,861 These are all processes 665 00:34:09,863 --> 00:34:11,963 that increase the entropy of the Universe. 666 00:34:11,965 --> 00:34:14,766 Together, all of these increases of entropy 667 00:34:14,768 --> 00:34:16,300 define the arrow of time. 668 00:34:16,302 --> 00:34:17,601 The question is, 669 00:34:17,603 --> 00:34:20,671 why was the entropy so low to begin with? 670 00:34:20,673 --> 00:34:23,374 Our Universe seems to be out of balance. 671 00:34:23,376 --> 00:34:24,675 The far, far future 672 00:34:24,677 --> 00:34:27,579 is going to be a very, very disorganized place, 673 00:34:27,581 --> 00:34:30,749 but the far, far past was highly organized. 674 00:34:30,751 --> 00:34:34,019 As physicists, this kind of imbalance really bugs us. 675 00:34:38,793 --> 00:34:40,961 Freeman: Sean looked for an explanation 676 00:34:40,963 --> 00:34:43,330 of this imbalance of time, 677 00:34:43,332 --> 00:34:45,999 and he found it in the multiverse. 678 00:34:46,001 --> 00:34:49,402 According to this theory, the Universe we see 679 00:34:49,404 --> 00:34:54,341 could be one of an infinite number of Universes. 680 00:34:54,343 --> 00:34:56,711 Carroll: Imagine a mommy Universe. 681 00:34:56,713 --> 00:34:58,279 So, this mommy Universe 682 00:34:58,281 --> 00:35:00,814 can essentially give birth to baby Universes. 683 00:35:02,650 --> 00:35:04,651 A little quantum fluctuation 684 00:35:04,653 --> 00:35:08,487 can make a bubble of space that starts small and then grows -- 685 00:35:08,489 --> 00:35:11,990 starts with low entropy and then increases in entropy, 686 00:35:11,992 --> 00:35:13,792 just like our Universe does. 687 00:35:13,794 --> 00:35:16,161 Freeman: So, a mother Universe 688 00:35:16,163 --> 00:35:19,097 gives birth to a Universe like ours -- 689 00:35:19,099 --> 00:35:23,834 a Universe where the arrow of time moves forward. 690 00:35:23,836 --> 00:35:25,703 But to stay in balance, 691 00:35:25,705 --> 00:35:29,006 it also has to give birth to a mirror-image Universe, 692 00:35:29,008 --> 00:35:31,942 where time moves backward. 693 00:35:31,944 --> 00:35:34,645 This means that in some other dimension, 694 00:35:34,647 --> 00:35:38,283 our Universe has an evil twin. 695 00:35:38,285 --> 00:35:41,419 Every bubble is its own Universe with its own arrow of time. 696 00:35:41,421 --> 00:35:44,056 Within each bubble, the arrow of time seems fine, 697 00:35:44,058 --> 00:35:46,792 but if you compare different bubbles to each other, 698 00:35:46,794 --> 00:35:49,529 the arrows will be pointing in opposite directions. 699 00:35:49,531 --> 00:35:50,964 Freeman: Sean's multiverse theory 700 00:35:50,966 --> 00:35:54,401 has attracted a lot of attention since it was introduced. 701 00:35:54,403 --> 00:35:57,404 But will it prove to be the ultimate solution 702 00:35:57,406 --> 00:36:01,342 to the mystery of time? 703 00:36:01,344 --> 00:36:03,944 Well, part of making progress in physics is saying, 704 00:36:03,946 --> 00:36:06,280 "What if this is true? What if that is true?" 705 00:36:06,282 --> 00:36:08,115 And sometimes when you say "What if?" 706 00:36:08,117 --> 00:36:10,350 You realize, "Oh, making that hypothetical leap 707 00:36:10,352 --> 00:36:12,785 really helps us with all these problems we're having." 708 00:36:12,787 --> 00:36:14,687 Other times, it just gets you in a mess. 709 00:36:14,689 --> 00:36:19,691 Quantum mechanics and the multiverse theory 710 00:36:19,693 --> 00:36:25,364 give us interesting ways to grapple with the riddle of time. 711 00:36:25,366 --> 00:36:28,901 What happens when we add string theory into the mix? 712 00:36:28,903 --> 00:36:30,202 [ Blink! ] 713 00:36:30,204 --> 00:36:31,670 [ Distorted voice ] Serious weirdness. 714 00:36:31,672 --> 00:36:32,738 [ Slump! ] 715 00:36:37,737 --> 00:36:41,006 The mystery of time has many possible solutions -- 716 00:36:41,008 --> 00:36:45,611 time is absolute or it is relative; 717 00:36:45,613 --> 00:36:47,746 time is an illusion 718 00:36:47,748 --> 00:36:51,350 or it is the very real product of entropy. 719 00:36:51,352 --> 00:36:54,887 But there is one other possibility -- 720 00:36:54,889 --> 00:36:57,489 an idea that challenges our assumptions 721 00:36:57,491 --> 00:37:02,093 about yesterday, today, and tomorrow. 722 00:37:02,095 --> 00:37:06,363 To us, time seems to flow from left to right, 723 00:37:06,365 --> 00:37:10,868 but what if it also goes up and down? 724 00:37:10,870 --> 00:37:15,273 What if time, like space, has more than one dimension -- 725 00:37:15,275 --> 00:37:20,245 a hidden dimension that we can't see? 726 00:37:20,247 --> 00:37:24,650 Steve Weinstein, a scientist at the Perimeter Institute, 727 00:37:24,652 --> 00:37:27,086 thinks it could be true 728 00:37:27,088 --> 00:37:30,856 and that it may solve another great mystery -- 729 00:37:30,858 --> 00:37:33,059 the riddle of quantum uncertainty. 730 00:37:33,061 --> 00:37:37,696 Steve is a physicist, philosopher, 731 00:37:37,698 --> 00:37:39,831 and professional musician. 732 00:37:39,833 --> 00:37:41,900 His view of time grows out of 733 00:37:41,902 --> 00:37:45,904 one of the most mathematically dense ideas in science -- 734 00:37:45,906 --> 00:37:47,539 string theory. 735 00:37:47,541 --> 00:37:50,074 String theorists believe 736 00:37:50,076 --> 00:37:53,445 that space has more than the three dimensions we see. 737 00:37:53,447 --> 00:37:55,446 This got Steve to thinking 738 00:37:55,448 --> 00:37:59,317 that the same idea could be applied to time. 739 00:37:59,319 --> 00:38:00,785 Weinstein: I thought, "well, 740 00:38:00,787 --> 00:38:03,988 "Why do we multiply spatial dimensions so freely, 741 00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:05,322 "but not time? 742 00:38:05,324 --> 00:38:07,023 "And, you know, is there any good reason?" 743 00:38:07,025 --> 00:38:08,892 So there was a sort of curiosity there. 744 00:38:08,894 --> 00:38:11,294 Freeman: Steve set to work. 745 00:38:11,296 --> 00:38:14,064 Time has always been treated as a line -- 746 00:38:14,066 --> 00:38:16,266 a one-dimensional thing. 747 00:38:16,268 --> 00:38:20,503 But if time has two dimensions, then time isn't a line. 748 00:38:20,505 --> 00:38:21,805 It's a shape. 749 00:38:21,807 --> 00:38:24,307 Weinstein: If you look at this guitar cable from far away, 750 00:38:24,309 --> 00:38:26,609 it looks like a one-dimensional object. 751 00:38:26,611 --> 00:38:28,078 It just looks like a line. 752 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,313 If you get up close, 753 00:38:29,315 --> 00:38:32,649 you can see that it has another dimension, 754 00:38:32,651 --> 00:38:35,251 which has to do with the circumference of the cable. 755 00:38:35,253 --> 00:38:37,486 It's like a cylinder. 756 00:38:37,488 --> 00:38:39,355 Our world looks three-dimensional 757 00:38:39,357 --> 00:38:41,791 in the same way that this cable from far away 758 00:38:41,793 --> 00:38:43,025 looks one-dimensional. 759 00:38:44,728 --> 00:38:48,598 Freeman: According to Steve, if time has an extra dimension, 760 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,101 then fundamental particles like electrons and photons 761 00:38:52,103 --> 00:38:55,438 are smeared across time. 762 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,109 So, an ordinary way of describing a particle 763 00:38:59,111 --> 00:39:01,144 would be to talk about its position 764 00:39:01,146 --> 00:39:02,479 at any moment in time. 765 00:39:02,481 --> 00:39:04,715 So the particle, or the pick, could be here or here 766 00:39:04,717 --> 00:39:07,284 or here or here or here or here. 767 00:39:07,286 --> 00:39:09,419 So, if I were to graph that 768 00:39:09,421 --> 00:39:11,989 and I had the time as a vertical axis, 769 00:39:11,991 --> 00:39:13,824 I would just draw that. 770 00:39:13,826 --> 00:39:16,526 Now, if you have an extra time dimension, 771 00:39:16,528 --> 00:39:19,362 you might visualize the time dimension 772 00:39:19,364 --> 00:39:22,131 perpendicular to the guitar neck, 773 00:39:22,133 --> 00:39:23,666 in this direction. 774 00:39:23,668 --> 00:39:25,667 The particle could be -- 775 00:39:25,669 --> 00:39:28,036 it might be here, 776 00:39:28,038 --> 00:39:31,339 and it might be here, and it might be over here. 777 00:39:31,341 --> 00:39:33,976 Freeman: To put it another way, 778 00:39:33,978 --> 00:39:37,413 quantum theory tells us that subatomic particles 779 00:39:37,415 --> 00:39:40,918 don't have definite addresses in space. 780 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,154 We can only guess where they probably live. 781 00:39:44,156 --> 00:39:48,058 Steve suspects they do have addresses, 782 00:39:48,060 --> 00:39:50,294 but those addresses are spread out 783 00:39:50,296 --> 00:39:52,497 across an extra dimension of time 784 00:39:52,499 --> 00:39:54,598 that we can't detect. 785 00:39:55,801 --> 00:39:59,871 If true, this revolutionizes physics. 786 00:39:59,873 --> 00:40:03,941 The fuzzy quantum world suddenly snaps into focus. 787 00:40:03,943 --> 00:40:05,276 But unfortunately, 788 00:40:05,278 --> 00:40:07,845 proving two-dimensional time is real 789 00:40:07,847 --> 00:40:11,582 may be next to impossible. 790 00:40:11,584 --> 00:40:13,984 For one thing, it's not easy to understand, 791 00:40:13,986 --> 00:40:16,153 even for other physicists. 792 00:40:16,155 --> 00:40:19,055 The math required to describe a Universe 793 00:40:19,057 --> 00:40:22,725 with two dimensions of time is difficult. 794 00:40:22,727 --> 00:40:26,963 Add in the nine spatial dimensions of string theory, 795 00:40:26,965 --> 00:40:29,799 and people's heads explode. 796 00:40:29,801 --> 00:40:32,102 [ Crash! Cuckoo! Cuckoo! ] 797 00:40:32,104 --> 00:40:35,004 It's very challenging conceptually. 798 00:40:35,006 --> 00:40:37,139 It's the hardest problem I've ever worked on, 799 00:40:37,141 --> 00:40:39,275 and I think this is why more people don't do it. 800 00:40:39,277 --> 00:40:41,310 It's very hard to think in these terms -- 801 00:40:41,312 --> 00:40:43,312 what would an extra time mean? 802 00:40:43,314 --> 00:40:45,147 [ Guitar playing ] 803 00:40:45,149 --> 00:40:46,381 Freeman: Nonetheless, 804 00:40:46,383 --> 00:40:50,117 Steve thinks it's worth the effort. 805 00:40:50,119 --> 00:40:52,152 Weinstein: Multiple times is one way, 806 00:40:52,154 --> 00:40:55,756 possibly the wrong way, but it's a different way of -- 807 00:40:55,758 --> 00:40:57,158 and a radically different way -- 808 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,927 of conceptualizing the physical world. 809 00:41:01,097 --> 00:41:03,432 Freeman: The physicists exploring the mystery of time 810 00:41:03,434 --> 00:41:06,302 have very different ways of looking at the Universe, 811 00:41:06,304 --> 00:41:08,938 but they all agree on one thing -- 812 00:41:08,940 --> 00:41:11,408 we'll never solve the mystery 813 00:41:11,410 --> 00:41:14,277 if we don't do the detective work. 814 00:41:14,279 --> 00:41:16,378 Smolin: You have to work really hard, 815 00:41:16,380 --> 00:41:19,548 and you have to be prepared to fail over and over again 816 00:41:19,550 --> 00:41:22,084 and to make mistakes over and over again. 817 00:41:22,086 --> 00:41:24,286 But I think that that wisdom also applies 818 00:41:24,288 --> 00:41:26,255 to the whole community of science. 819 00:41:26,257 --> 00:41:30,359 That is, we have to experiment with every stupid, wrong idea 820 00:41:30,361 --> 00:41:32,861 before we get onto the right one. 821 00:41:32,863 --> 00:41:36,565 Time may be real 822 00:41:36,567 --> 00:41:39,602 or it may be an illusion. 823 00:41:39,604 --> 00:41:42,104 But from our perspective, 824 00:41:42,106 --> 00:41:44,273 the past is gone forever, 825 00:41:44,275 --> 00:41:47,042 and the future is yet to be written. 826 00:41:47,044 --> 00:41:48,978 Whether or not we discover 827 00:41:48,980 --> 00:41:52,883 there are physical aspects of time we can't perceive, 828 00:41:52,885 --> 00:41:54,584 our human experience 829 00:41:54,586 --> 00:41:58,022 of the endless cycle of life and death won't change. 830 00:41:58,024 --> 00:42:01,025 The golden summers of my childhood 831 00:42:01,027 --> 00:42:03,162 are gone forever. 832 00:42:03,164 --> 00:42:06,766 But there are new summers ahead -- 833 00:42:06,768 --> 00:42:12,005 summers rich with the potential of things yet to come. 834 00:42:12,530 --> 00:42:16,530 == sync, corrected by elderman ==65230

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