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Not to mention the other violent crimes. 11 00:00:53,261 --> 00:00:57,223 I stabbed him in the face, in the legs, in the arms, in the chest. 12 00:00:57,307 --> 00:00:58,641 It was a lot of fun. 13 00:00:59,267 --> 00:01:03,104 In 1997, I believe, Anthony Romano, 14 00:01:03,188 --> 00:01:05,356 a guy who's been in and out of prison a lot, 15 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,025 gets in touch with me and says, 16 00:01:07,108 --> 00:01:09,611 "I got to meet you to talk about the Gardner case." 17 00:01:10,904 --> 00:01:15,075 We set up the meeting to take place at an abandoned ball field. 18 00:01:15,909 --> 00:01:17,577 It was cold, I remember that. 19 00:01:17,660 --> 00:01:20,163 It was... probably November, December. 20 00:01:20,872 --> 00:01:22,165 He says "I'm a mechanic. 21 00:01:22,248 --> 00:01:24,501 This old prison buddy of mine, 22 00:01:24,584 --> 00:01:26,127 his name is Carmello Merlino, 23 00:01:27,128 --> 00:01:28,296 I'm not happy with him. 24 00:01:28,379 --> 00:01:32,634 He turned my ex-wife into a drug mule, and it almost ruined her life." 25 00:01:32,717 --> 00:01:34,886 He said, "I really hate the prick." 26 00:01:35,470 --> 00:01:37,305 I got the funny feeling now, 27 00:01:37,388 --> 00:01:39,808 he's doing a lot of talking with people 28 00:01:39,891 --> 00:01:42,143 that are somehow involved with the Gardner. 29 00:01:42,727 --> 00:01:45,188 He's got some connection. 30 00:01:45,271 --> 00:01:48,149 One of the guys he hangs with is David Turner. 31 00:01:48,233 --> 00:01:50,693 [tense music playing] 32 00:01:50,777 --> 00:01:53,196 The Turner name came up during the Gardener theft 33 00:01:53,279 --> 00:01:54,489 at some point in time. 34 00:01:56,407 --> 00:01:58,701 I said, "Would you potentially wear 35 00:01:58,785 --> 00:02:02,288 a recording device one time? Can you do it?" 36 00:02:02,372 --> 00:02:05,250 And he goes, "Yeah, all right. I'll do it." 37 00:02:08,670 --> 00:02:10,380 He did. And he kept doing it. 38 00:02:10,463 --> 00:02:11,381 [recorder clicks] 39 00:02:11,464 --> 00:02:13,758 And he did it like a pro! [laughs] 40 00:02:15,176 --> 00:02:18,263 [Romano speaking] 41 00:02:23,101 --> 00:02:25,061 [Romano speaking] 42 00:02:25,145 --> 00:02:26,938 [Merlino speaking] 43 00:02:28,439 --> 00:02:31,442 [Romano speaking] 44 00:02:31,526 --> 00:02:32,610 [Merlino speaking] 45 00:02:41,786 --> 00:02:45,373 Merlino also wants to rob the Loomis Fargo Vault Facility. 46 00:02:45,456 --> 00:02:46,875 It's over in Easton, Mass. 47 00:02:46,958 --> 00:02:49,127 [Romano speaking on tape] 48 00:02:49,210 --> 00:02:52,172 [Romano] That's where they keep all the money. 49 00:02:52,255 --> 00:02:54,507 The trucks come back and they unload money. 50 00:02:54,591 --> 00:02:56,759 And he's been casing it. 51 00:02:56,843 --> 00:02:59,179 [Merlino on tape] 52 00:02:59,262 --> 00:03:00,346 [Romano on tape] Wow. 53 00:03:01,389 --> 00:03:02,974 [Merlino on tape] 54 00:03:03,057 --> 00:03:05,935 And he's planning, talking, scheming. 55 00:03:06,811 --> 00:03:10,732 [Merlino on tape] 56 00:03:13,902 --> 00:03:14,902 [Romano] All right. 57 00:03:14,944 --> 00:03:16,112 [Merlino on tape] 58 00:03:16,196 --> 00:03:17,363 [Romano on tape] Yeah. 59 00:03:17,447 --> 00:03:21,451 [Merlino on tape] 60 00:03:21,534 --> 00:03:23,077 The guys he wanted to use 61 00:03:23,745 --> 00:03:24,871 were David Turner 62 00:03:24,954 --> 00:03:27,165 and Stephen Rossetti. 63 00:03:27,248 --> 00:03:29,375 - [man 1] You see him? Yeah. - [man 2] Yeah. 64 00:03:31,127 --> 00:03:33,004 [David Turner speaking on tape] 65 00:03:35,715 --> 00:03:38,968 [Stephen Rossetti speaking on tape] 66 00:03:41,304 --> 00:03:43,514 [Merlino speaking on tape] 67 00:03:43,598 --> 00:03:45,516 [man 3 speaking on tape] I don't care. 68 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,186 [Merlino speaking on tape] 69 00:03:51,606 --> 00:03:54,984 [Merlino on tape] 70 00:03:59,989 --> 00:04:02,408 [Turner speaking on tape] 71 00:04:02,492 --> 00:04:03,993 [Merlino] Yeah. If that was... 72 00:04:04,077 --> 00:04:08,623 - [Merlino speaking on tape] - [Turner laughs] 73 00:04:08,706 --> 00:04:10,708 [man whistling on tape] 74 00:04:22,845 --> 00:04:29,269 [Romano speaking on tape] 75 00:04:29,352 --> 00:04:33,690 [Rossetti speaking on tape] 76 00:04:33,773 --> 00:04:38,987 [Romano speaking on tape] 77 00:04:39,070 --> 00:04:41,990 - [Romano] It's like a sally port. Uh... - [Rossetti] Yeah. 78 00:04:43,366 --> 00:04:48,037 [waitress on tape] 79 00:04:48,121 --> 00:04:50,331 [Turner on tape] 80 00:04:52,041 --> 00:04:53,418 [Romano on tape] 81 00:04:53,501 --> 00:04:54,544 [Turner] I don't... 82 00:04:54,627 --> 00:04:56,379 [waitress on tape] 83 00:04:57,422 --> 00:05:02,051 [Merlino on tape] 84 00:05:02,135 --> 00:05:05,179 [Rossetti on tape] 85 00:05:05,263 --> 00:05:09,058 [Merlino] He doesn't like when we eat bread. Not with his health. 86 00:05:09,142 --> 00:05:10,435 [Romano on tape] Right. 87 00:05:10,518 --> 00:05:15,398 [Rossetti on tape] 88 00:05:15,481 --> 00:05:17,817 - [Rossetti] We go straight out? - [Romano] No. 89 00:05:17,900 --> 00:05:20,111 [Nadolski] That tape was dynamite. 90 00:05:21,946 --> 00:05:22,989 We've got a case. 91 00:05:28,286 --> 00:05:31,372 What we had arranged for was the next day, 92 00:05:31,456 --> 00:05:35,335 we had my squad, we had the FBI SWAT team, 93 00:05:36,169 --> 00:05:37,962 the surveillance squad, 94 00:05:38,046 --> 00:05:39,964 all out at TRC. 95 00:05:41,799 --> 00:05:43,926 The first one to arrive was Mello. 96 00:05:44,010 --> 00:05:45,303 A SWAT van pulls up... 97 00:05:46,596 --> 00:05:47,597 Boom! 98 00:05:48,473 --> 00:05:50,141 They take him and he's gone. 99 00:05:55,355 --> 00:05:58,608 Turner and Rossetti are being followed by a plane. 100 00:06:01,110 --> 00:06:05,406 David Turner gets out, opens the trunk, takes out this huge duffel bag. 101 00:06:06,157 --> 00:06:08,493 The guns are in that bag. 102 00:06:08,576 --> 00:06:10,078 The guy in our car 103 00:06:10,161 --> 00:06:12,455 yells for the SWAT team, "Take him! Take him!" 104 00:06:12,538 --> 00:06:13,831 [sirens wailing] 105 00:06:16,542 --> 00:06:19,629 Anything about the Gardner you want to get off your chest? 106 00:06:19,712 --> 00:06:21,214 [laughing] 107 00:06:26,010 --> 00:06:29,305 [VCR clicking, whirring] 108 00:06:32,183 --> 00:06:33,935 [Abath] They said "Boston Police," 109 00:06:35,603 --> 00:06:37,146 and I buzzed 'em in. 110 00:06:37,230 --> 00:06:38,689 [intense string music plays] 111 00:06:39,273 --> 00:06:42,735 Boston. A quiet museum. A daring robbery. 112 00:06:42,819 --> 00:06:46,406 [Kurkjian] Vipers are in the grass, and they're moving towards you. 113 00:06:46,489 --> 00:06:49,617 [man 1] The biggest art heist in history. 114 00:06:49,700 --> 00:06:52,954 The 13 art treasures stolen are worth half a billion dollars. 115 00:06:54,247 --> 00:06:56,749 Take a look at these composite drawings. 116 00:06:57,708 --> 00:07:00,086 [Murphy] These were a get out of jail free card, 117 00:07:00,169 --> 00:07:01,212 and everybody knew. 118 00:07:01,796 --> 00:07:04,424 [McGuigan] I have the paintings with me, now what? 119 00:07:06,551 --> 00:07:08,553 [Merlino] They want those motherfuckers bad. 120 00:07:08,636 --> 00:07:10,012 And they'll pay. 121 00:07:10,096 --> 00:07:12,932 - They're looking right here. - [Green] We're gonna get this back. 122 00:07:13,015 --> 00:07:14,100 [man 3] Gardner Museum 123 00:07:14,183 --> 00:07:17,728 doubling its reward up to $10 million. 124 00:07:19,021 --> 00:07:21,816 [Mashberg] It can really come to obsess you. 125 00:07:21,899 --> 00:07:23,609 [Green] Why not kill these people? 126 00:07:24,777 --> 00:07:27,572 [Hawley] I had no idea what I was going into. 127 00:07:27,655 --> 00:07:29,073 It was just horrifying. 128 00:07:30,074 --> 00:07:34,454 [man 4] The empty frames are all that remain on the museum walls. 129 00:07:48,885 --> 00:07:52,722 [tense music playing] 130 00:08:05,276 --> 00:08:07,987 [Leppo] You gotta remember, I represented Merlino. 131 00:08:08,529 --> 00:08:11,782 And I represented probably every member of his crew. 132 00:08:12,450 --> 00:08:13,493 Merlino, 133 00:08:14,327 --> 00:08:15,453 Davey Turner, 134 00:08:16,078 --> 00:08:17,830 and Stevie Rossetti. 135 00:08:18,789 --> 00:08:22,376 I find it fascinating. They all had the same lawyer, Marty Leppo. 136 00:08:22,460 --> 00:08:24,962 If you were a suspect, you had to have Marty Leppo. 137 00:08:25,922 --> 00:08:29,008 [Leppo] It's alleged, and they were indicted for, 138 00:08:29,091 --> 00:08:34,680 conspiracy to rob the Loomis counting-house in Easton. 139 00:08:34,764 --> 00:08:37,475 The unfortunate part for them was 140 00:08:37,558 --> 00:08:41,062 their added member was an informant. 141 00:08:44,148 --> 00:08:47,193 When the word came out that they had been arrested, 142 00:08:47,276 --> 00:08:48,611 we couldn't find them. 143 00:08:48,694 --> 00:08:50,534 What are they grabbed for? What are they doing? 144 00:08:50,571 --> 00:08:52,281 What's the bail situation? 145 00:08:52,365 --> 00:08:54,116 And nobody could find them. 146 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,870 But I found them in the Brookline police station, 147 00:08:57,954 --> 00:09:02,416 and the informant was not there, even though he was a participant. 148 00:09:02,500 --> 00:09:04,710 That's when I knew that something happened. 149 00:09:06,462 --> 00:09:09,173 [Nadolski] They had a carbine assault rifle, 150 00:09:09,257 --> 00:09:11,676 five semi-automatic handguns, 151 00:09:11,759 --> 00:09:14,220 a live fragmentation grenade. 152 00:09:14,303 --> 00:09:17,640 They had bulletproof vests, they had scanners. 153 00:09:17,723 --> 00:09:21,060 They had timers, jumpsuits. 154 00:09:21,143 --> 00:09:23,187 They had flex ties, 155 00:09:23,854 --> 00:09:24,981 handcuffs. 156 00:09:26,065 --> 00:09:27,900 They were given a chance to talk, 157 00:09:27,984 --> 00:09:30,736 but they all denied any involvement 158 00:09:30,820 --> 00:09:34,991 or connection or possession of anything from the Gardner Museum. 159 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,286 They all got around 40 years. 160 00:09:40,705 --> 00:09:42,999 [Leppo] They did everything to make an arrest. 161 00:09:45,876 --> 00:09:48,212 They set up that sting, 162 00:09:48,296 --> 00:09:50,923 and said to them after they were arrested, 163 00:09:51,007 --> 00:09:53,175 "Give up the paintings, you walk out." 164 00:09:56,721 --> 00:09:58,848 [Murphy] This whole little crew of people, 165 00:09:58,931 --> 00:10:01,017 they were sort of intertwined. 166 00:10:01,100 --> 00:10:05,605 Some of them met through prisons, some of them met on the streets of Boston. 167 00:10:05,688 --> 00:10:06,939 Carmello Merlino, 168 00:10:07,023 --> 00:10:08,190 David Turner, 169 00:10:08,774 --> 00:10:10,860 and there was Bobby Guarente. 170 00:10:12,028 --> 00:10:13,446 There's a strong belief 171 00:10:13,529 --> 00:10:15,197 that he had his hands on them. 172 00:10:15,281 --> 00:10:17,283 May not have been involved in the theft, 173 00:10:17,366 --> 00:10:20,453 but somehow came into possession of the paintings. 174 00:10:21,412 --> 00:10:22,788 The thing about Guarente 175 00:10:22,872 --> 00:10:25,750 that keeps him as a prime person of interest, 176 00:10:25,833 --> 00:10:27,627 even though he's dead, 177 00:10:27,710 --> 00:10:30,129 is he had connections to many of these people. 178 00:10:32,048 --> 00:10:33,549 I'd always covered the courts, 179 00:10:33,633 --> 00:10:37,053 and the Mafia and organized crime, those kinds of things. 180 00:10:39,263 --> 00:10:40,723 Everybody knew Guarente. 181 00:10:40,806 --> 00:10:44,810 He was the most popular gangster in New England, I think. 182 00:10:45,645 --> 00:10:49,523 I've talked to people who told me that, at some point in time, 183 00:10:49,607 --> 00:10:51,692 he considered David Turner like a son. 184 00:10:53,736 --> 00:10:56,781 Guarente loved him. [as Turner] "Like my own boy." 185 00:10:59,742 --> 00:11:02,453 Turner was in the can on this thing. 186 00:11:03,496 --> 00:11:05,956 He's a young guy, he's got a 40 year sentence. 187 00:11:07,083 --> 00:11:10,002 And Guarente wanted to do him a favor and get him out. 188 00:11:10,086 --> 00:11:12,630 He was floating the idea of returning a painting. 189 00:11:14,465 --> 00:11:18,886 Guarente had an appointment with the lawyer of David Turner 190 00:11:18,969 --> 00:11:20,429 to talk about this. 191 00:11:21,389 --> 00:11:24,100 By the time the government finds out about this, 192 00:11:24,684 --> 00:11:27,103 Guarente's dead, so they can't ask him about it. 193 00:11:34,443 --> 00:11:38,572 The FBI went up to check a farmhouse that Guarente had, 194 00:11:38,656 --> 00:11:41,075 to see if they could find trace of the paintings. 195 00:11:41,158 --> 00:11:45,913 And they went back to drop the keys off with the wife, or the widow, 196 00:11:45,996 --> 00:11:49,083 and say thank you for giving us the keys, 197 00:11:49,166 --> 00:11:53,003 and they try and engage her in a little bit of small talk. You know... 198 00:11:53,796 --> 00:11:56,465 "I'm so-and-so, from Boston, and we're from... 199 00:11:56,549 --> 00:12:00,886 This is the Gardner Museum. You ever been? We know you used to live in Massachusetts... 200 00:12:01,721 --> 00:12:06,684 And she became, like, visibly agitated, and she starts going crazy, 201 00:12:06,767 --> 00:12:10,855 and she says, "I know what the Gardner is, my Bobby had two of the paintings." 202 00:12:16,736 --> 00:12:17,820 He was dying, 203 00:12:18,571 --> 00:12:22,742 and she was constantly at him to get rid of the things. 204 00:12:23,993 --> 00:12:25,995 [birds cawing] 205 00:12:28,247 --> 00:12:31,125 [Mahoney] He said, "We're going to drive down to Portland. 206 00:12:32,001 --> 00:12:33,461 I'm gonna meet somebody, 207 00:12:33,544 --> 00:12:35,755 have lunch, and I'll give him the paintings. 208 00:12:41,218 --> 00:12:43,971 They went into a restaurant, the wives and husbands. 209 00:12:48,934 --> 00:12:51,896 At one point, Guarente and this other guy went out, 210 00:12:53,105 --> 00:12:56,400 and transferred paintings from Guarente's car to the guy's car. 211 00:12:58,569 --> 00:13:00,571 She remembers the guy likes to eat. 212 00:13:01,614 --> 00:13:03,866 He's a big eater. He's a gourmet. 213 00:13:03,949 --> 00:13:05,993 They used to come up and dine together. 214 00:13:12,291 --> 00:13:15,211 It's this guy named Bob Gentile from Connecticut. 215 00:13:16,086 --> 00:13:17,755 Then the FBI people, 216 00:13:17,838 --> 00:13:20,883 all from Maine and Boston at that point, look at each other and go, 217 00:13:20,966 --> 00:13:22,760 "Who the hell is Bob Gentile?" 218 00:13:22,843 --> 00:13:25,596 [inquisitive orchestral music plays] 219 00:13:27,765 --> 00:13:29,600 2010 or so, 220 00:13:29,683 --> 00:13:32,603 Bob Gentile is a local hoodlum. 221 00:13:33,354 --> 00:13:36,690 When he first came up, I call up guys that I know, 222 00:13:36,774 --> 00:13:40,444 retired FBI agents who are on the organized crime squad in Connecticut. 223 00:13:41,737 --> 00:13:45,699 You know, the agent said to me, "He's got nothing to do with Boston. 224 00:13:45,783 --> 00:13:47,952 He's got nothing to do with any art heist." 225 00:13:48,452 --> 00:13:50,830 And one of the things these Mob guys do 226 00:13:50,913 --> 00:13:54,083 is they always have a half-assed car business on the side. 227 00:13:56,001 --> 00:13:59,547 And he was closely associated with Guarente. 228 00:14:00,714 --> 00:14:03,551 Guarente and Gentile had met back in the '80s. 229 00:14:03,634 --> 00:14:05,135 They were in the car business. 230 00:14:05,219 --> 00:14:07,805 They were both Italian guys, both heavyset. 231 00:14:07,888 --> 00:14:09,348 They looked like brothers. 232 00:14:09,431 --> 00:14:13,060 It became a friendship of years. Probably 25, 30 years. 233 00:14:15,896 --> 00:14:18,482 [Mahoney] They shared some common interests. 234 00:14:18,566 --> 00:14:20,651 Boosting stolen things. 235 00:14:20,734 --> 00:14:24,864 They would hijack truckloads of clothing and they would sell that sort of thing. 236 00:14:24,947 --> 00:14:26,323 So they had a lot going on. 237 00:14:27,783 --> 00:14:30,119 Gentile's just a swindler and a cheater. 238 00:14:30,202 --> 00:14:32,830 You know, everybody's looking to break his legs. 239 00:14:34,874 --> 00:14:37,793 [upbeat jazzy music playing] 240 00:14:42,256 --> 00:14:44,300 [Mahoney] Bob at this point 241 00:14:44,383 --> 00:14:49,346 has muscled his way into taking over this used car lot, G&M Auto. 242 00:14:50,306 --> 00:14:53,517 And this guy has actually converted one of the grease pits 243 00:14:53,601 --> 00:14:55,102 into a gourmet kitchen. 244 00:14:58,898 --> 00:15:01,525 And he cleaned out the equipment, and put in a stove, 245 00:15:01,609 --> 00:15:04,111 and a table, chairs, a refrigerator, and a sink. 246 00:15:04,945 --> 00:15:08,032 He goes down at ten o'clock in the morning and starts cooking. 247 00:15:08,115 --> 00:15:11,076 He's cooking big things with sauce, spaghetti, everything. 248 00:15:13,412 --> 00:15:16,332 Bobby's got the apron on with the big stomach. 249 00:15:16,415 --> 00:15:20,961 He's got all these old-time, broken-down gangsters from the area that come down. 250 00:15:21,045 --> 00:15:24,715 All 60, 70 years old, 80 years old, and he's feeding them down there. 251 00:15:24,798 --> 00:15:29,136 And he's holding court, blah, blah, blah. They drink wine and eat spaghetti all day, 252 00:15:29,219 --> 00:15:32,139 and talk about when they stole this, when they stole that, 253 00:15:32,222 --> 00:15:34,141 when they'd knocked over this guy and that guy. 254 00:15:34,725 --> 00:15:35,935 [glasses clink] 255 00:15:37,603 --> 00:15:41,774 The FBI inserts an informer into this group. 256 00:15:45,694 --> 00:15:47,696 He's trying to get Gentile to talk about the art, 257 00:15:47,780 --> 00:15:50,616 talk about the museum, talk about the paintings. 258 00:15:50,699 --> 00:15:52,326 They start working on Bobby. 259 00:15:52,409 --> 00:15:54,453 I mean, non-stop every day. 260 00:15:55,245 --> 00:15:59,708 Gentile's winking and nodding. "Oh, yeah, I can't talk about that." 261 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,003 The next thing is, "Can you get me drugs? 262 00:16:03,087 --> 00:16:05,631 Can you get Oxycontin, can you get this, that?" 263 00:16:07,383 --> 00:16:10,844 [McGuigan] The informant sees a bottle that my client had on his desk. 264 00:16:11,303 --> 00:16:12,304 And he picked it up, 265 00:16:12,388 --> 00:16:15,599 and it was his own prescription for Dilaudid. 266 00:16:16,475 --> 00:16:19,019 And then he says, "How much do you want for this?" 267 00:16:19,103 --> 00:16:21,230 Says, "I'll give you $300 for the bottle." 268 00:16:24,066 --> 00:16:26,986 Client said, "Okay." And there you go. There's a felony. 269 00:16:36,245 --> 00:16:38,998 David Turner's name came up in court in Connecticut. 270 00:16:39,081 --> 00:16:41,208 I went looking at the Bureau of Prisons website 271 00:16:41,291 --> 00:16:44,420 and saw his release date, and suddenly it's 2025, 272 00:16:44,503 --> 00:16:46,588 and it's like, "What's the reason?" 273 00:16:47,172 --> 00:16:50,426 [man] David Turner's original release date was 2032. 274 00:16:50,509 --> 00:16:55,055 And then it gets put to 2025, sometime around the same time that your... 275 00:16:55,139 --> 00:16:57,725 [McGuigan] My client is being prosecuted. Yeah. 276 00:16:58,475 --> 00:17:01,395 [man] Did you get any indication why that sentence was cut? 277 00:17:01,478 --> 00:17:03,605 No. But I... It's not a coincidence. 278 00:17:03,689 --> 00:17:07,359 In law enforcement and criminal law, we don't believe in coincidences. 279 00:17:08,610 --> 00:17:10,404 Turner's working with the FBI. 280 00:17:10,487 --> 00:17:14,324 And so that's why I believe that it was this cooperation 281 00:17:14,408 --> 00:17:16,869 that gets him seven years shaved off his sentence. 282 00:17:18,871 --> 00:17:20,998 [Murphy] We know that it was kept secret, 283 00:17:21,832 --> 00:17:25,669 but if it was for some reason like sentencing guidelines changed 284 00:17:25,753 --> 00:17:28,881 or there was something that didn't need to be secret, 285 00:17:28,964 --> 00:17:30,883 it'd be part of the public court file. 286 00:17:30,966 --> 00:17:34,011 [tense music playing] 287 00:17:41,977 --> 00:17:44,563 [Kelly] I don't know what's publicly revealed 288 00:17:44,646 --> 00:17:46,231 in the proceedings against him, 289 00:17:46,982 --> 00:17:49,443 but typically, when a search warrant is executed 290 00:17:49,526 --> 00:17:52,529 it's based upon information law enforcement has 291 00:17:52,613 --> 00:17:54,156 from other sources, witnesses, 292 00:17:54,239 --> 00:17:57,076 who say, "We know so-and-so is involved in a crime 293 00:17:57,159 --> 00:18:00,162 and we know the fruits of that crime are at his location." 294 00:18:01,872 --> 00:18:05,584 [Murphy] Clearly David Turner got some sort of a deal for information. 295 00:18:07,377 --> 00:18:10,214 [McGuigan] I got a phone call, and they said, 296 00:18:10,297 --> 00:18:15,219 "Do you know there's about 100 FBI agents outside of your client's house?" 297 00:18:15,302 --> 00:18:16,887 I said, "No, I wasn't aware." 298 00:18:21,350 --> 00:18:25,312 You can get a nice zoomer there. They're bagging and tagging, baby. 299 00:18:29,024 --> 00:18:29,858 Okay. 300 00:18:29,942 --> 00:18:34,530 Federal agents searching a reputed mobster's home in Manchester, 301 00:18:34,613 --> 00:18:39,034 and it may be connected to the largest art heist in history. 302 00:18:39,827 --> 00:18:42,746 Federal authorities got a search warrant for his property, 303 00:18:42,830 --> 00:18:47,042 and the thought was that there were a couple paintings on his property. 304 00:18:48,001 --> 00:18:49,962 [McGuigan] There were cars everywhere. 305 00:18:50,045 --> 00:18:52,506 There were three massive black trucks, 306 00:18:52,589 --> 00:18:54,800 tactical vehicles, tents they had erected. 307 00:18:54,883 --> 00:18:57,719 A few Bloodhounds. They got a ferret back there. 308 00:18:57,803 --> 00:19:00,931 They had, I'm not kidding, two helicopters flying in the air. 309 00:19:01,014 --> 00:19:02,933 It was something out of a movie. 310 00:19:05,602 --> 00:19:07,146 [Mcguigan] Ground-penetrating radar. 311 00:19:07,229 --> 00:19:10,524 They're lookin' for paintings. They're lookin' for 'em right here. 312 00:19:11,775 --> 00:19:15,487 [reporter] Remind people what was taken from the Gardner years ago. 313 00:19:15,571 --> 00:19:20,659 It was amazing. Thirteen paintings, Rembrandt, Degas, Manet, Vermeer. 314 00:19:21,243 --> 00:19:24,329 He's a crook, you know, he's just a crook. 315 00:19:24,413 --> 00:19:26,915 Crooks do those things. I wish he didn't live here. 316 00:19:29,626 --> 00:19:32,629 I think that they're gonna find nothing but a bunch of worms 317 00:19:32,713 --> 00:19:34,173 for their fishing expedition. 318 00:19:35,966 --> 00:19:40,345 At that point I said to myself, "They must know something that I don't." 319 00:19:40,429 --> 00:19:44,766 In the face of all of the money that is being spent right now, 320 00:19:44,850 --> 00:19:48,478 I have to be wrong. I couldn't possibly be right." 321 00:19:48,562 --> 00:19:50,439 Okay five, four, three, two, one. 322 00:19:50,522 --> 00:19:54,610 I can't believe they're letting the attorney for this... suspect 323 00:19:54,693 --> 00:19:57,946 hang out right there with the feds, but I guess he has a right to. 324 00:19:58,030 --> 00:19:59,948 I mean... it makes no sense to me. 325 00:20:03,785 --> 00:20:07,289 Word came in. We're going to get this stuff back. 326 00:20:07,372 --> 00:20:09,625 We prepared for our press conference. 327 00:20:10,417 --> 00:20:13,337 Poster boards were made for the pieces. 328 00:20:13,420 --> 00:20:17,716 The words "recovered" were over them, the item was in the center of it. 329 00:20:19,676 --> 00:20:23,138 We were very excited. I had been on many, many searches. 330 00:20:23,931 --> 00:20:26,642 We'd get leads for different people, different places, 331 00:20:26,725 --> 00:20:29,228 and we would go and we would search their homes. 332 00:20:29,311 --> 00:20:31,438 We would come up dry at each one of them. 333 00:20:33,023 --> 00:20:36,485 We were really salivating at the opportunity 334 00:20:36,568 --> 00:20:39,029 to see all the things that we were looking for. 335 00:20:41,323 --> 00:20:43,617 [Mahoney] They really took it apart. I mean... 336 00:20:43,700 --> 00:20:45,994 They were looking inside walls and things. 337 00:20:46,078 --> 00:20:48,038 I think they went in there three times, 338 00:20:48,121 --> 00:20:52,626 and every time they found hiding places that they hadn't known about before. 339 00:20:56,255 --> 00:20:59,675 The FBI looked at the shed, and they found a hole in the floor. 340 00:21:05,097 --> 00:21:07,849 And underneath the hole, was another hole in the dirt, 341 00:21:07,933 --> 00:21:10,477 with some kind of big Tupperware thing in it, 342 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,938 which presumably you could hide something in. 343 00:21:13,021 --> 00:21:15,107 They bring me out to the hold, 344 00:21:15,941 --> 00:21:21,029 and they show me a cut in the floor that they had made. 345 00:21:21,113 --> 00:21:22,614 It looked very dramatic. 346 00:21:25,033 --> 00:21:28,829 And there was a giant piece of equipment they had to move out of the shed, 347 00:21:28,912 --> 00:21:31,581 and underneath that equipment was a trap door. 348 00:21:35,794 --> 00:21:37,796 And then they open the trap door, 349 00:21:37,879 --> 00:21:40,632 and someone said, "There's a big container down here." 350 00:21:41,717 --> 00:21:43,385 They pull out the big container, 351 00:21:45,470 --> 00:21:48,724 and it's essentially empty except for a handgun and some weed. 352 00:21:50,142 --> 00:21:53,687 I looked and said, "It's an empty hole. What do you want from me?" 353 00:21:53,770 --> 00:21:57,441 They said, "We think your client might have put the paintings in here." 354 00:21:57,524 --> 00:22:00,444 I said, "The Storm on the Sea of Galilee is five by four. 355 00:22:00,527 --> 00:22:03,947 It's not gonna fit in there. What are you talking about?" 356 00:22:04,656 --> 00:22:06,700 "Well, the small Rembrandt could have." 357 00:22:06,783 --> 00:22:10,203 I said, "Yeah, but are you really looking for the small Rembrandt?" 358 00:22:14,124 --> 00:22:17,919 Clearly didn't get what they wanted, which is certainly not firearms, 359 00:22:18,003 --> 00:22:20,255 it's certainly paintings from the Gardner. 360 00:22:21,923 --> 00:22:24,051 [Green] I was disappointed about that, 361 00:22:24,134 --> 00:22:26,720 and I said, "If you ever find this stuff, 362 00:22:27,888 --> 00:22:30,057 ring me up. I want to see it all." 363 00:22:31,141 --> 00:22:34,394 [McGuigan] They spend the better part of eight hours in the house, 364 00:22:34,478 --> 00:22:37,731 and they then told me that they had found a number of guns. 365 00:22:37,814 --> 00:22:40,192 Uh, they had found a newspaper article. 366 00:22:40,859 --> 00:22:42,319 It was the Boston Herald. 367 00:22:42,402 --> 00:22:45,614 And it was all about the museum being robbed. 368 00:22:45,697 --> 00:22:51,578 Within that was a yellow, lined piece of paper 369 00:22:51,661 --> 00:22:56,166 with every single piece of art that had been stolen from the museum 370 00:22:56,249 --> 00:22:57,376 on a left-hand column, 371 00:22:57,459 --> 00:23:01,088 and on the right-hand column, there was a corresponding number 372 00:23:01,171 --> 00:23:05,675 with a value of what the art would've been valued on the street. 373 00:23:06,885 --> 00:23:08,637 That doesn't look good. 374 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,680 Corroborated law enforcement's sense 375 00:23:10,764 --> 00:23:14,434 that the search warrant was appropriately issued, 376 00:23:14,518 --> 00:23:17,938 and they were hopeful that he'd give them information. 377 00:23:18,772 --> 00:23:19,981 They're telling him, 378 00:23:20,065 --> 00:23:22,567 "You're gonna die in jail unless you give us information," 379 00:23:22,651 --> 00:23:24,528 and he has no information for them. 380 00:23:24,611 --> 00:23:26,780 That set off all kinds of red flags. 381 00:23:26,863 --> 00:23:30,575 I went and I asked him about it, and I said, "What is this?" 382 00:23:30,659 --> 00:23:34,538 The thing is, Bob Gentile wouldn't know the truth if he tripped over it. 383 00:23:34,621 --> 00:23:36,998 He's incapable of telling the truth. 384 00:23:42,963 --> 00:23:46,091 I asked for a meeting with the assistant U.S. attorney on the case. 385 00:23:46,174 --> 00:23:48,802 I figured I'd be walking into a normal meeting 386 00:23:48,885 --> 00:23:50,720 with an FBI agent and U.S. attorney. 387 00:23:52,013 --> 00:23:54,307 This is a big meeting. This is a big deal. 388 00:23:54,391 --> 00:23:58,061 They were asking about, of course, the piece of paper. 389 00:23:59,146 --> 00:24:02,691 And they said, "For God's sake, Bob, you have the piece of paper. 390 00:24:02,774 --> 00:24:06,903 It has a list of all the paintings and values, for God's sake. 391 00:24:06,987 --> 00:24:08,029 Stop denying it." 392 00:24:08,738 --> 00:24:11,616 There are probably 12 FBI agents, 393 00:24:12,242 --> 00:24:13,952 three U.S. attorneys, 394 00:24:14,035 --> 00:24:16,663 and then a polygraph guy from the FBI. 395 00:24:18,665 --> 00:24:21,001 This polygraph had about 35 people in the room, 396 00:24:21,084 --> 00:24:22,794 milling around, having coffee, 397 00:24:22,878 --> 00:24:25,839 slamming doors, babies crying. 398 00:24:25,922 --> 00:24:27,215 You name it, it had it. 399 00:24:28,675 --> 00:24:30,218 They had put a picture 400 00:24:30,302 --> 00:24:34,848 of every single one of the pieces of art that had been stolen, 401 00:24:34,931 --> 00:24:36,516 and they put them on the wall, 402 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,103 and he went down through each and every one of the pieces of art. 403 00:24:40,187 --> 00:24:42,022 "Have you ever seen that one? 404 00:24:42,105 --> 00:24:43,565 Have you seen that one? 405 00:24:43,648 --> 00:24:45,108 Have you seen that one?" 406 00:24:45,192 --> 00:24:48,904 They then were having side conversations with one another and my client, 407 00:24:48,987 --> 00:24:51,072 explaining what kind of picture it was, 408 00:24:51,865 --> 00:24:54,743 who painted the picture, what was the size of the picture. 409 00:24:54,826 --> 00:24:58,413 So he was getting a tutorial while he was taking this "polygraph," 410 00:24:59,164 --> 00:25:01,708 right there in the U.S. attorney's office. 411 00:25:03,293 --> 00:25:06,713 In the middle of the polygraph, he just out of the blue states, 412 00:25:06,796 --> 00:25:09,382 "You know what? I think I did see that little one. 413 00:25:12,677 --> 00:25:16,932 I saw it in Maine. I went to a party at Bobby Guarante's house 414 00:25:17,015 --> 00:25:19,392 and his wife, when we got to the party... 415 00:25:19,476 --> 00:25:21,520 His wife was there, 416 00:25:21,603 --> 00:25:23,563 and she came downstairs 417 00:25:23,647 --> 00:25:27,776 and she pulled the little picture there out of her bra, like that, 418 00:25:27,859 --> 00:25:30,737 and she showed it to me and she put it back in her bra." 419 00:25:30,820 --> 00:25:33,448 And they were all excited about that. 420 00:25:33,532 --> 00:25:35,659 He knew that they were excited about it. 421 00:25:35,742 --> 00:25:37,577 They leave the room to take a break. 422 00:25:37,661 --> 00:25:41,081 He looks at me and he said, "Boy, I got 'em with that one, didn't I?" 423 00:25:41,748 --> 00:25:44,209 I said, "Did you make that up?" He said, "Yes." 424 00:25:44,292 --> 00:25:47,796 I put my head down and I said, "Please, God, don't do that anymore." 425 00:25:49,506 --> 00:25:53,051 [Mahoney] The polygraphy result was a tenth of a percent chance 426 00:25:53,134 --> 00:25:54,553 he was telling the truth. 427 00:25:55,053 --> 00:25:57,055 It was less than one percent, I think. 428 00:25:57,138 --> 00:25:59,849 It was just, you know... I mean, almost certain. 429 00:26:00,433 --> 00:26:04,938 He was questioned. "Did you know anything about the heist before it happened?" 430 00:26:05,021 --> 00:26:06,523 He flunks that part of it. 431 00:26:06,606 --> 00:26:09,234 "Do you know the whereabouts of the paintings today?" 432 00:26:09,317 --> 00:26:10,986 He flunks that when he denies it. 433 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,324 With a guy like him, what're you gonna do? He's never told the truth in his life. 434 00:26:16,408 --> 00:26:19,119 If you asked him what his name was, he would give you a fake name. 435 00:26:19,202 --> 00:26:20,412 It's just the way he is. 436 00:26:22,038 --> 00:26:23,832 [McGuigan] Not only did they imprison him, 437 00:26:23,915 --> 00:26:26,668 they prosecuted him to the full extent that they could. 438 00:26:32,340 --> 00:26:34,843 He was looking at a death in prison. 439 00:26:38,388 --> 00:26:39,472 Where was I? 440 00:26:41,933 --> 00:26:43,602 I think I was on the golf course. 441 00:26:44,936 --> 00:26:48,231 I get a phone call from a U.S. Marshal. 442 00:26:48,315 --> 00:26:51,484 He says, "Do you know what's going on with your client?" 443 00:26:51,568 --> 00:26:54,446 I said, "No." He said, "I think you have to call him. 444 00:26:54,529 --> 00:26:57,616 It's his health, he's bad. He's asking for you." 445 00:26:57,699 --> 00:27:01,328 So I frantically call the office. I find where he is. 446 00:27:01,953 --> 00:27:04,914 He's at the hospital. Not going to live through the night. 447 00:27:08,209 --> 00:27:11,338 If there's ever a chance of a deathbed confession, this is it. 448 00:27:12,255 --> 00:27:15,425 By the time I got to the hospital, it was twelve o'clock. 449 00:27:15,508 --> 00:27:19,429 I had thought, "I'm going to show up, he's dead. I know it. It's just my luck." 450 00:27:22,307 --> 00:27:23,308 Showed up... 451 00:27:25,644 --> 00:27:26,936 talked to the doctor. 452 00:27:27,020 --> 00:27:29,939 I said, "How's my client?" He said, "He's not gonna make it." 453 00:27:32,067 --> 00:27:35,236 So I went and sat down with him and I spent the night with him. 454 00:27:36,363 --> 00:27:38,990 I woke up the next morning about nine o'clock. 455 00:27:42,410 --> 00:27:45,997 I hear a gasp and... "What the F are you doing here?" 456 00:27:46,081 --> 00:27:47,457 [chuckling] 457 00:27:48,583 --> 00:27:50,585 I said, "Good to see you too, Bobby." 458 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,005 And he said, "What's gonna happen to me?" 459 00:27:56,383 --> 00:27:58,259 I said, "You're probably gonna die... 460 00:27:59,928 --> 00:28:01,137 If I'm honest with you." 461 00:28:03,098 --> 00:28:05,975 He kept moving his legs. He was in a lot of discomfort. 462 00:28:06,059 --> 00:28:10,647 And he kept moaning he can't die here. "I can't die here, I can't die here." 463 00:28:11,815 --> 00:28:14,526 I approached him, I got in his face, and I said, 464 00:28:14,609 --> 00:28:17,404 "The only way that you don't die here... 465 00:28:18,571 --> 00:28:20,240 is that you give me something. 466 00:28:21,408 --> 00:28:25,912 I guarantee you, if you give me anything on the paintings, 467 00:28:27,163 --> 00:28:29,749 that I could have you medevac'd out of here tonight, 468 00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:34,337 and you can be in your bed with your wife this evening, 469 00:28:34,421 --> 00:28:35,839 and you could die at home." 470 00:28:37,090 --> 00:28:39,968 And then real tears coming down his face, 471 00:28:40,051 --> 00:28:41,886 because he genuinely loves his wife. 472 00:28:43,972 --> 00:28:45,932 He looked at me, defeated, and he said, 473 00:28:46,808 --> 00:28:48,435 "But there ain't no paintings." 474 00:28:49,728 --> 00:28:51,938 It was at that point that I knew 475 00:28:52,021 --> 00:28:54,065 that I would never ask him about paintings again. 476 00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:59,446 [atmospheric music playing] 477 00:29:06,494 --> 00:29:08,371 [man] When was the last time you talked to him? 478 00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:12,709 He got out of prison on the 17th, which I think was a Saturday. 479 00:29:12,792 --> 00:29:13,877 I had lunch with him. 480 00:29:15,462 --> 00:29:16,963 - How was the lunch? - I paid. 481 00:29:17,046 --> 00:29:18,381 He bought two lunches. 482 00:29:19,048 --> 00:29:20,216 Took one home with him. 483 00:29:23,219 --> 00:29:27,515 He's 80 now. I mean, 81, 82, I can't remember. 484 00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:29,809 He's overweight. He's got a heart condition. 485 00:29:29,893 --> 00:29:32,479 He's got arthritis. He's got a bad back. 486 00:29:33,354 --> 00:29:36,941 He's livin' in this half-ruined house by himself. 487 00:29:40,445 --> 00:29:44,407 Well, the feds have spent a lot of time announcing 488 00:29:44,491 --> 00:29:47,243 that the paintings went from Bobby Guarente 489 00:29:47,327 --> 00:29:50,121 to this great friend of his, Bobby Gentile. 490 00:29:51,998 --> 00:29:55,877 Myself included, everyone has knocked on Gentile's door 491 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,047 and talked to his lawyer, and he denies, denies, denies. 492 00:30:00,173 --> 00:30:04,260 [Kurkjian on tape] Good. So, this is Monday at Bob's house. 493 00:30:04,344 --> 00:30:07,889 What do you think about the possibility that Guarente did have them? 494 00:30:07,972 --> 00:30:09,224 [Gentile] I don't think so. 495 00:30:09,933 --> 00:30:12,727 If he had them, he would've gotten Turner out of jail. 496 00:30:12,811 --> 00:30:16,231 Him and Merlino and all... He wants to get them out of jail. 497 00:30:16,314 --> 00:30:19,067 Those were his friends. If he had them, he'd have gave them up. 498 00:30:19,150 --> 00:30:21,194 - [Kurkjian] He's that kind of guy? - A good guy. 499 00:30:21,277 --> 00:30:24,239 He was a bad guy, bank robber, but a good-hearted guy. 500 00:30:24,322 --> 00:30:26,324 He was a teddy bear, he was a nice guy. 501 00:30:26,407 --> 00:30:29,160 What do I care what somebody else did 20 years ago? 502 00:30:29,244 --> 00:30:31,412 I know nothing about the paintings. 503 00:30:32,956 --> 00:30:34,791 [birds cawing] 504 00:30:38,002 --> 00:30:39,003 [McGuigan] The FBI, 505 00:30:39,087 --> 00:30:42,507 they believe Erlene Guarante, Guarante's wife. 506 00:30:43,466 --> 00:30:45,969 They're interested in their theory of the case 507 00:30:46,553 --> 00:30:49,222 that the paintings went from Boston to Maine, 508 00:30:49,305 --> 00:30:51,766 Maine to Connecticut, Connecticut to Philadelphia. 509 00:30:51,850 --> 00:30:54,352 That's the story that they're sticking to. 510 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,105 [Nadolski] Gentile is the link. 511 00:30:57,856 --> 00:31:00,900 He actually was inducted into and joined 512 00:31:00,984 --> 00:31:03,736 the Philadelphia Mafia family 513 00:31:03,820 --> 00:31:04,904 and became a member. 514 00:31:09,075 --> 00:31:12,245 In one of the stories, there was a loud argument 515 00:31:12,328 --> 00:31:14,372 between Gentile and Guarente 516 00:31:14,455 --> 00:31:17,125 about "delivering a painting" 517 00:31:17,834 --> 00:31:20,670 to one of the bosses in Philadelphia as "tribute." 518 00:31:21,588 --> 00:31:24,757 And Gentile typically and characteristically was... 519 00:31:24,841 --> 00:31:27,510 "You out of your mind? That's worth too much money. 520 00:31:27,594 --> 00:31:29,470 Give away that? Forget about it." 521 00:31:30,847 --> 00:31:33,725 I think he has valuable information that, for whatever reason, 522 00:31:33,808 --> 00:31:37,020 because he's stubborn or stupid or whatever, he's not sharing. 523 00:31:38,646 --> 00:31:40,148 [crowd murmring indistinctly] 524 00:31:40,231 --> 00:31:41,232 [beeping] 525 00:31:51,576 --> 00:31:55,079 [man] Good afternoon, everybody. Great to have each of you here today. 526 00:31:55,747 --> 00:31:57,165 My name is Rick DesLauriers, 527 00:31:57,248 --> 00:31:59,584 special agent in charge of the Boston division. 528 00:32:00,335 --> 00:32:02,170 [Murphy] It was really stunning. 529 00:32:02,253 --> 00:32:06,424 The FBI announces on the anniversary that they are very confident 530 00:32:06,507 --> 00:32:09,344 that they know who committed the robbery, 531 00:32:09,427 --> 00:32:10,720 and the thieves are dead. 532 00:32:11,763 --> 00:32:15,308 [DesLauriers] With today's announcement, we begin the final chapter. 533 00:32:16,893 --> 00:32:18,353 Twenty-three years ago today, 534 00:32:19,479 --> 00:32:22,523 two men posing as Boston police bluffed their way into the museum 535 00:32:22,607 --> 00:32:26,069 by telling the night guards they were investigating a disturbance. 536 00:32:26,152 --> 00:32:27,403 Some described the theft 537 00:32:27,487 --> 00:32:30,490 as one of the the most significant art heists in American history. 538 00:32:30,573 --> 00:32:31,491 We agree. 539 00:32:31,574 --> 00:32:33,493 We are pleased to announce 540 00:32:33,576 --> 00:32:36,204 the FBI has made significant investigative progress 541 00:32:36,287 --> 00:32:40,500 in the search for the stolen art from the Gardner Art Museum. 542 00:32:40,583 --> 00:32:43,252 We are continuing our relentless investigation 543 00:32:43,336 --> 00:32:45,964 with the same tenacity that brought us to this point. 544 00:32:46,547 --> 00:32:50,218 It quickly led to confirming the identity of those involved in the robbery 545 00:32:50,301 --> 00:32:52,720 and brought us to the point where we are today. 546 00:32:52,804 --> 00:32:54,430 [Murphy] It's very tantalizing, 547 00:32:54,514 --> 00:32:57,392 because they're essentially saying, "We figured it out." 548 00:32:57,475 --> 00:33:01,604 Many people would say, "No, you didn't, because you don't have the paintings." 549 00:33:02,355 --> 00:33:05,608 However, we do not know where the art is currently located, 550 00:33:05,692 --> 00:33:09,153 and we are again asking for tips from the public. 551 00:33:09,237 --> 00:33:13,574 It's likely over the years that someone, a friend, neighbor, or relative, 552 00:33:14,242 --> 00:33:18,621 has seen the art hanging on a wall, above a mantle, or stored in an attic. 553 00:33:19,205 --> 00:33:22,125 We want that person to call us. We also want... 554 00:33:22,208 --> 00:33:25,795 [Kelly] I think that's an unfortunate interview to give. 555 00:33:25,878 --> 00:33:28,965 Because, unless you got the items, I mean... 556 00:33:29,048 --> 00:33:32,427 I think it's better left unsaid what you do and do not have. 557 00:33:33,261 --> 00:33:34,846 [reporter] Why don't you name them? 558 00:33:34,929 --> 00:33:37,849 If you believe that you know who stole the paintings, 559 00:33:37,932 --> 00:33:40,685 how does it help not to identify the crew you're looking for? 560 00:33:40,768 --> 00:33:43,271 Because that's an ongoing investigation right now. 561 00:33:43,354 --> 00:33:46,566 We're not going to compromise ongoing investigative activity. 562 00:33:46,649 --> 00:33:48,735 [Murphy] But they don't release the names. 563 00:33:48,818 --> 00:33:51,612 However, through court filings, 564 00:33:51,696 --> 00:33:53,531 they identify people of interest. 565 00:33:53,614 --> 00:33:55,241 Some of the prime suspects. 566 00:33:55,324 --> 00:33:57,535 It comes back to this crew 567 00:33:57,618 --> 00:34:01,622 who hung out at this garage in Dorchester. 568 00:34:02,832 --> 00:34:04,792 One of the names is George Reissfelder. 569 00:34:06,002 --> 00:34:08,254 The other one was Lenny Dimuzio. 570 00:34:24,020 --> 00:34:25,480 [Whelan] Lenny's life was cut short. 571 00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:32,111 An informant told me that when he was at David Turner's house, 572 00:34:33,821 --> 00:34:38,159 David shot him in his backyard, or the garage area, 573 00:34:38,910 --> 00:34:40,244 threw him in the trunk. 574 00:34:41,621 --> 00:34:44,040 That car was driven to east Boston 575 00:34:44,624 --> 00:34:49,128 and was parked under, I believe, an off-ramp to Route 1. 576 00:34:55,384 --> 00:34:57,720 And it was parked there for several months. 577 00:35:02,350 --> 00:35:06,938 The only time someone really noticed the car was there that long 578 00:35:07,021 --> 00:35:10,024 was because it was completely white from birds sitting on it. 579 00:35:13,277 --> 00:35:15,404 They checked out the car, the plates, 580 00:35:15,488 --> 00:35:19,158 they opened the trunk, and Lenny was in the trunk... melted. 581 00:35:22,411 --> 00:35:23,996 He was there for quite a while. 582 00:35:31,129 --> 00:35:35,967 [Sikellis] It was in the parking lot of Santrapio's Pizza, in East Boston. 583 00:35:38,219 --> 00:35:40,388 There was a lot of speculation as is, 584 00:35:40,471 --> 00:35:43,599 but, uh... nothing beyond speculation. 585 00:35:47,687 --> 00:35:53,609 [Whelan] Charlie Pappas was arrested, 1992, '93, with quite a bit of cocaine. 586 00:35:55,027 --> 00:35:58,614 And we turned Charlie Pappas to become an informant. 587 00:35:59,949 --> 00:36:03,536 [Sikellis] He agreed to testify against David Turner on a home invasion. 588 00:36:04,495 --> 00:36:08,124 Although he was a friend of David Turner's since childhood, 589 00:36:09,083 --> 00:36:12,211 he said, "I don't want to go to jail. I'm givin' this guy up." 590 00:36:21,971 --> 00:36:24,682 And it was the night before Thanksgiving, 591 00:36:26,017 --> 00:36:28,102 and two people jumped out of the bushes 592 00:36:28,186 --> 00:36:30,521 - and shot him several times. - [gunfire] 593 00:36:32,023 --> 00:36:33,900 [man] Pappas was scheduled to testify 594 00:36:33,983 --> 00:36:38,529 in a 1990 home invasion case against David Turner, who lives in this house 595 00:36:38,613 --> 00:36:41,073 several blocks away from the murder scene. 596 00:36:41,157 --> 00:36:43,075 The last shot was in the mouth, 597 00:36:44,243 --> 00:36:46,537 which meant, "You're talking." [chuckles] 598 00:36:50,208 --> 00:36:52,919 [dramatic music playing] 599 00:37:08,059 --> 00:37:09,769 [McGuigan] There's a lot of mysterious... 600 00:37:10,978 --> 00:37:13,814 deaths around the theft. 601 00:37:21,447 --> 00:37:24,575 Everybody who apparently did the robbery is whacked. 602 00:37:30,581 --> 00:37:33,084 Or dies of natural causes, 603 00:37:33,167 --> 00:37:35,503 or some might say unnatural causes. 604 00:37:39,674 --> 00:37:41,300 At that point, Guarante's dead. 605 00:37:41,384 --> 00:37:43,302 Merlino's dead. 606 00:37:43,386 --> 00:37:44,971 Everyone had died. 607 00:37:45,596 --> 00:37:46,596 Except for Turner. 608 00:37:58,985 --> 00:38:01,570 [Kurkjian] You ever see those guys before? Or since? 609 00:38:01,654 --> 00:38:03,531 [Abath] Not to my knowledge, no. 610 00:38:03,614 --> 00:38:05,616 [Kurkjian] Anybody close to them? 611 00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:11,539 [Abath] The only guy who came close, when I saw his picture, was Turner. 612 00:38:28,389 --> 00:38:29,974 [Murphy] Turner got a break. 613 00:38:30,057 --> 00:38:33,144 David Turner had seven years shaved off his prison sentence, 614 00:38:33,227 --> 00:38:34,603 and we know that. 615 00:38:34,687 --> 00:38:36,689 And we know that it was kept secret. 616 00:38:46,032 --> 00:38:48,909 [Murphy] It is November 13th, 2019. 617 00:38:53,289 --> 00:38:57,084 David Turner's back here today for resentencing. 618 00:38:58,461 --> 00:38:59,378 We're standing out 619 00:38:59,462 --> 00:39:01,380 in front of the federal court in Boston. 620 00:39:02,882 --> 00:39:05,718 Well, I can tell you I was here a couple of decades ago 621 00:39:05,801 --> 00:39:07,595 when he was first convicted 622 00:39:07,678 --> 00:39:10,765 in this attempted robbery of an armored car depot. 623 00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:15,811 You don't realize when the years go by, it's been 21 years, 624 00:39:15,895 --> 00:39:20,524 and I recall him as a young man with dark, jet black hair, 625 00:39:20,608 --> 00:39:23,444 and now he's a 52-year-old man. 626 00:39:23,527 --> 00:39:25,738 He's got a little gray to his hair. 627 00:39:33,746 --> 00:39:38,042 [man] Okay, he gets out, they just let him walk right out the front door? 628 00:39:38,125 --> 00:39:39,125 [woman] Yeah. 629 00:39:47,134 --> 00:39:50,638 [man] He's not going back... He's not going back to jail? 630 00:39:50,721 --> 00:39:53,766 [woman] No, he's gonna walk free. Just got to do processing. 631 00:39:53,849 --> 00:39:54,849 [man] All right. 632 00:40:05,403 --> 00:40:08,406 [Murphy] There are very few persons of interest 633 00:40:08,489 --> 00:40:11,242 left alive in the Gardner heist investigation. 634 00:40:11,325 --> 00:40:12,368 [shutter snapping] 635 00:40:13,327 --> 00:40:15,538 [man] Hey, David, how's it feel to be out? 636 00:40:16,122 --> 00:40:18,040 - Wonderful. Goin' to Disneyland. - Yeah? 637 00:40:18,124 --> 00:40:19,792 [Murphy] He walked out a free man. 638 00:40:19,875 --> 00:40:22,503 Do you have any knowledge of the Gardner heist? 639 00:40:22,586 --> 00:40:24,004 Please get away from me. 640 00:40:24,088 --> 00:40:26,090 Any idea where those paintings are? 641 00:40:26,173 --> 00:40:28,926 [Murphy] There are some authorities who are concerned, 642 00:40:29,009 --> 00:40:31,429 some of the investigators that I've spoken to, 643 00:40:31,512 --> 00:40:34,056 who were dogging him back in the day, 644 00:40:34,140 --> 00:40:37,101 that he was someone that was a suspect in several murders. 645 00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:40,479 So there's concern. 646 00:40:40,563 --> 00:40:42,940 [man] Suspect number 2 is described as a white... 647 00:40:43,023 --> 00:40:44,733 [Murphy] On one hand, people say, 648 00:40:44,817 --> 00:40:47,570 "Look, this guy's been in prison for 21 years. 649 00:40:47,653 --> 00:40:51,073 If he really knew where they were, he wouldn't be sitting in prison." 650 00:40:51,699 --> 00:40:52,950 But on the other hand, 651 00:40:53,033 --> 00:40:56,078 there's a $10 million reward, and he's walking out of prison. 652 00:40:56,954 --> 00:40:59,957 I'd think there's an incentive, if he does know anything, 653 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,041 to try to find it. 654 00:41:01,125 --> 00:41:03,377 [suspenseful music playing] 655 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,269 [man] Hey, you plan on trying to collect the reward? 656 00:41:32,615 --> 00:41:35,743 [somber music playing] 657 00:41:39,205 --> 00:41:41,415 [Leppo] Everybody talks about the Gardner. 658 00:41:42,833 --> 00:41:43,918 This is it. 659 00:41:46,712 --> 00:41:49,715 Where's the last page, "...and we apprehended"? 660 00:41:53,385 --> 00:41:54,385 Unbelievable. 661 00:41:54,970 --> 00:42:01,352 I literally have spent almost 25 years on this case. Uh... 662 00:42:01,435 --> 00:42:04,855 And in the first few years, I had what I call "Gardner sickness," 663 00:42:05,648 --> 00:42:09,068 which is just this intense desire 664 00:42:09,777 --> 00:42:13,322 to solve the case, no matter how you can. 665 00:42:13,405 --> 00:42:14,532 Follow every lead. 666 00:42:17,368 --> 00:42:19,828 Look at every clue twice, three times. 667 00:42:29,547 --> 00:42:31,757 You go back to the night of the crime, 668 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,094 and you're gonna... you recreate every step that took place. 669 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,763 You look at the first police reports. 670 00:42:38,973 --> 00:42:41,100 It can really come to obsess you. 671 00:42:44,687 --> 00:42:47,773 There's gotta be a way to figure out where these went, 672 00:42:47,856 --> 00:42:50,776 because it's so bizarre that they just disappeared. 673 00:42:55,114 --> 00:42:57,533 [Vigderman] To have them come back, 674 00:42:57,616 --> 00:42:59,910 it's like somebody coming back from the grave. 675 00:43:01,620 --> 00:43:03,622 [Hawley] When I see those frames, 676 00:43:03,706 --> 00:43:07,710 I feel that they are waiting for the work to come back. 677 00:43:14,466 --> 00:43:19,763 It's three o'clock in the morning. I have the paintings with me. Now what? 678 00:43:27,813 --> 00:43:29,398 The feds, in their account, 679 00:43:29,481 --> 00:43:32,776 believe that the paintings most likely 680 00:43:33,569 --> 00:43:37,740 went through these hands of Donati, to Guarente, to the outside world. 681 00:43:39,950 --> 00:43:43,078 [Mahoney] There are some people who think when Gentile dies, 682 00:43:43,162 --> 00:43:45,164 it might shake something loose. 683 00:43:45,247 --> 00:43:47,082 His death will trigger something. 684 00:43:47,166 --> 00:43:50,419 Someone will say, "Now he's dead, I'm gonna come forward." 685 00:43:50,502 --> 00:43:54,840 You can't write off anything until you have the evidence that says 686 00:43:54,923 --> 00:43:57,134 100% that this didn't happen. 687 00:43:57,217 --> 00:43:58,469 Maybe it did. 688 00:44:00,346 --> 00:44:03,474 There's stories about stuff being buried, being thrown away. 689 00:44:03,557 --> 00:44:07,186 And I wouldn't be surprised if this stuff was gotten rid of. 690 00:44:07,269 --> 00:44:09,396 There was just so much heat on this thing. 691 00:44:10,481 --> 00:44:14,735 I know this organized crime guy in New York, 692 00:44:14,818 --> 00:44:18,864 takes stuff and sends them overseas to Saudi Arabia. 693 00:44:19,615 --> 00:44:22,826 He said that's where they are. I know that's where they went. 694 00:44:22,910 --> 00:44:24,787 Bobby had connections with some people 695 00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:27,373 in Canada that they were looking at. 696 00:44:27,456 --> 00:44:29,166 We have had verbal accounts. 697 00:44:29,249 --> 00:44:31,919 A source who was extremely reliable 698 00:44:32,002 --> 00:44:34,171 says he thinks he saw the Vermeer in Dublin. 699 00:44:35,506 --> 00:44:36,506 Nonsense. 700 00:44:36,882 --> 00:44:39,510 We started getting calls from South America. 701 00:44:40,010 --> 00:44:42,888 [Hawley] We had this lead that came from Japan. 702 00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:45,265 [Kurkjian] There was a tip that said 703 00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:48,977 the paintings had been stolen by a group and they had wound up in France. 704 00:44:50,229 --> 00:44:52,189 [Leppo] They've traveled to Jamaica, 705 00:44:52,272 --> 00:44:54,108 churches in South Boston. 706 00:44:54,733 --> 00:44:58,654 They've gone all over and they haven't found a thing. 707 00:45:14,586 --> 00:45:16,213 We're coming up to 30 years now, 708 00:45:16,296 --> 00:45:19,174 30 years that these masterpieces have been missing. 709 00:45:20,926 --> 00:45:22,136 It needs a break. 710 00:45:26,140 --> 00:45:27,558 [Murphy] They're out there. 711 00:45:28,392 --> 00:45:30,060 Somebody stashed them. 712 00:45:31,979 --> 00:45:33,939 Sometimes it's the next generation. 713 00:45:35,232 --> 00:45:38,569 "Grandpa's dead, look what we got." [chuckles] You know? It's like... 714 00:45:40,154 --> 00:45:42,030 [Fisher] You could potentially get immunity, 715 00:45:42,114 --> 00:45:44,324 potentially get $10 million. 716 00:45:44,408 --> 00:45:46,118 That's why this case is so confounding. 717 00:45:47,578 --> 00:45:50,706 They could be in Australia. They could be in the Middle East. 718 00:45:50,789 --> 00:45:52,499 Could be in Europe. Who knows? 719 00:45:53,709 --> 00:45:55,461 You wanna keep in the public eye. 720 00:45:58,338 --> 00:46:00,608 Why don't we get our evidence on one of the anniversaries, 721 00:46:00,632 --> 00:46:03,594 put it out on the table, the tapes, and just show the stuff? 722 00:46:06,221 --> 00:46:07,461 Until you have the paintings... 723 00:46:09,099 --> 00:46:10,559 it's all still just a theory. 724 00:46:17,941 --> 00:46:20,194 [dramatic choral music plays] 725 00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:07,825 [intricate string music playing] 60487

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