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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,836 --> 00:00:04,772 Mikey, is there any reason you wanted the teleprompter 2 00:00:04,796 --> 00:00:07,233 behind the camera so I'm looking straight at you, or you don't care? 3 00:00:07,257 --> 00:00:08,818 - No, I think it's okay. - Okay. 4 00:00:08,842 --> 00:00:10,195 We're in a good spot. 5 00:00:10,219 --> 00:00:12,113 'Cause my eyes are a little shooting to the right. 6 00:00:12,137 --> 00:00:13,656 - That's okay, though. - Are you sure? 7 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,825 Mm-hmm. Okay. 8 00:00:15,849 --> 00:00:18,870 So you wanna start from the top? 9 00:00:18,894 --> 00:00:20,145 Yes. 10 00:00:21,563 --> 00:00:22,898 I'm just gonna do each point. 11 00:00:24,775 --> 00:00:27,694 - Ready? - I am born ready. 12 00:00:34,743 --> 00:00:37,680 Welcome. And thank you for coming. 13 00:00:37,704 --> 00:00:41,017 Real estate is going through a fundamental shift, 14 00:00:41,041 --> 00:00:45,230 from a "fixed cost per seat" commodity 15 00:00:45,254 --> 00:00:48,215 to an experiential-differentiated... 16 00:00:52,177 --> 00:00:55,865 Real estate is going through a fundamental shift, 17 00:00:55,889 --> 00:00:57,558 from a must-have... 18 00:00:59,393 --> 00:01:00,620 It's a mouthful. 19 00:01:00,644 --> 00:01:02,539 Fromm a "fixed cost per seat" commodity 20 00:01:02,563 --> 00:01:04,082 to a must-have experiential... 21 00:01:04,106 --> 00:01:05,416 I can do it, I can do it, I can do it. 22 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:06,751 Real estate... 23 00:01:06,775 --> 00:01:08,711 Guys, I need no sounds. 24 00:01:08,735 --> 00:01:11,923 If you're moving and making a sound and I'm speaking, freeze. 25 00:01:11,947 --> 00:01:14,634 Real estate is going through a fundamental shift, 26 00:01:14,658 --> 00:01:16,845 from a "fixed cost per seat" com... 27 00:01:16,869 --> 00:01:19,305 Ehhh! We'll clean it up. 28 00:01:19,329 --> 00:01:22,289 I think we're great, and I think we're preparing for the roadshow right now. 29 00:01:23,375 --> 00:01:25,228 Sorry. 30 00:01:25,252 --> 00:01:27,438 The universe had to release it. 31 00:01:28,630 --> 00:01:31,651 Shh! You guys gotta flow with me. After I do the... 32 00:01:31,675 --> 00:01:33,695 Shh! Just let the air out. 33 00:01:33,719 --> 00:01:36,364 WeWork is garnering questions about its business model. 34 00:01:36,388 --> 00:01:39,325 There are all kinds of things that just pop out as red flags in this. 35 00:01:39,349 --> 00:01:41,119 It feels like it's valued as a tech company, 36 00:01:41,143 --> 00:01:42,787 but this is a real estate company. 37 00:01:42,811 --> 00:01:45,707 The founder wanted total, complete control for life. 38 00:01:45,731 --> 00:01:48,334 The company went from a $47 billion valuation 39 00:01:48,358 --> 00:01:50,295 to near bankruptcy in just six weeks. 40 00:01:50,319 --> 00:01:52,338 The future of the company very uncertain at this point. 41 00:01:52,362 --> 00:01:54,674 If you tell a 30-something male 42 00:01:54,698 --> 00:01:56,634 that he's Jesus Christ, 43 00:01:56,658 --> 00:01:58,327 he's inclined to believe you. 44 00:01:59,661 --> 00:02:02,039 - Start from the top. I'm gonna get this. 45 00:02:03,415 --> 00:02:04,708 Okay, I got it. 46 00:02:27,064 --> 00:02:29,167 Social media companies promised us 47 00:02:29,191 --> 00:02:31,276 that technology will bring us together. 48 00:02:34,029 --> 00:02:36,424 Well, I gotta tell you, I've been observing a little bit what's happening 49 00:02:36,448 --> 00:02:39,010 around the world right now and I actually feel like a lot of times 50 00:02:39,034 --> 00:02:41,078 technology is pulling us apart. 51 00:02:43,372 --> 00:02:47,393 And the secret of success in our opinion, is it's about real connection. 52 00:02:47,417 --> 00:02:49,729 It's about treating other people the way you wanna be treated. 53 00:02:49,753 --> 00:02:52,381 It's about being part of something greater than yourself. 54 00:02:57,594 --> 00:03:00,031 I want us to never forget that the future, 55 00:03:00,055 --> 00:03:03,725 while leveraging technology, lies in ourselves. 56 00:03:05,060 --> 00:03:07,497 It is us who will blaze the path forward, 57 00:03:07,521 --> 00:03:10,667 paved not with algorithms, not with software, 58 00:03:10,691 --> 00:03:13,294 but with values, with friendship, 59 00:03:13,318 --> 00:03:17,072 with common goals, and most importantly, with humanity. 60 00:03:19,074 --> 00:03:22,911 The next revolution is going to be the We revolution. 61 00:03:25,163 --> 00:03:29,769 And it will restore in each one of us a sense of dignity and community 62 00:03:29,793 --> 00:03:32,963 without which greatness cannot be achieved. 63 00:03:39,928 --> 00:03:42,574 Not in generations has Wall Street absorbed 64 00:03:42,598 --> 00:03:44,492 the number of body blows it took today. 65 00:03:44,516 --> 00:03:46,286 The American financial system 66 00:03:46,310 --> 00:03:48,079 is rocked to its foundation, 67 00:03:48,103 --> 00:03:52,417 as top Wall Street institutions topple under a mountain of debt. 68 00:03:52,441 --> 00:03:57,380 - After 2008, 2009, you had this really interesting period in U. S. economics 69 00:03:57,404 --> 00:04:00,717 where the economy itself was in a recession 70 00:04:00,741 --> 00:04:03,887 and we were looking for some way to get out of it, we were looking for hope. 71 00:04:03,911 --> 00:04:07,640 And hope was found in technology. 72 00:04:07,664 --> 00:04:10,768 And people were like, "That's the future. Tech is the future. 73 00:04:10,792 --> 00:04:14,481 It's going to be the lifeline that pulls us out of these doldrums." 74 00:04:14,505 --> 00:04:18,651 And at the time, you had a lot of sort of tech boosterism and techno-optimism. 75 00:04:18,675 --> 00:04:22,071 The idea was not just that these companies were going to become valuable, 76 00:04:22,095 --> 00:04:26,117 but that they represented something really fundamental and beautiful 77 00:04:26,141 --> 00:04:29,078 about the future of human civilization. 78 00:04:29,102 --> 00:04:32,081 It was a period where you were rewarded 79 00:04:32,105 --> 00:04:35,752 if you could articulate a vision of your company 80 00:04:35,776 --> 00:04:37,795 that wasn't just going to make money. 81 00:04:37,819 --> 00:04:39,488 It was going to change the world. 82 00:04:43,951 --> 00:04:46,095 What is your business built on? 83 00:04:46,119 --> 00:04:48,056 - We. - You... 84 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,308 I need you to tell me that. "My business..." 85 00:04:50,332 --> 00:04:53,436 - Are we starting? Yeah, we'll just start and then I'll get official. 86 00:04:53,460 --> 00:04:56,022 - Okay, you got it, you'll get... He's not in your picture? 87 00:04:56,046 --> 00:04:58,066 - Now, don't worry about... - He's not in your frame? 88 00:04:58,090 --> 00:05:00,652 We got you covered, you got us covered. 89 00:05:00,676 --> 00:05:01,820 - WeWork is a community... 90 00:05:01,844 --> 00:05:04,364 Wait, who do you want me to look at, you or the...? Okay. 91 00:05:04,388 --> 00:05:06,950 So they're taking this side. 92 00:05:06,974 --> 00:05:09,035 This is, we go to the details here. 93 00:05:09,059 --> 00:05:12,038 - You look fantastic. - We focus on a lot of details here. 94 00:05:12,062 --> 00:05:16,084 Adam arrived in New York like many immigrants, 95 00:05:16,108 --> 00:05:19,045 ready to hustle, full of ideas. 96 00:05:19,069 --> 00:05:22,215 And, uh, like many who've come to New York before him, 97 00:05:22,239 --> 00:05:23,925 uh, they didn't really work. 98 00:05:25,325 --> 00:05:26,594 He had this idea called Krawlers, 99 00:05:26,618 --> 00:05:29,514 which was for babies so they could have padded knees. 100 00:05:29,538 --> 00:05:32,738 You know, babies have been doing fine for millions of years without padded knees. 101 00:05:33,041 --> 00:05:35,019 Our tagline was, "Just because they don't tell you 102 00:05:35,043 --> 00:05:36,396 doesn't meant they don't hurt." 103 00:05:39,173 --> 00:05:41,109 He's couch-surfing with his sister, 104 00:05:41,133 --> 00:05:42,801 who's had some success as a model. 105 00:05:44,344 --> 00:05:46,263 - What you see is what you get. 106 00:05:48,348 --> 00:05:50,201 And I think Adam really loves 107 00:05:50,225 --> 00:05:52,453 the New York lifestyle, the nightlife. 108 00:05:52,477 --> 00:05:54,873 But professionally, he's kind of a dilettante. 109 00:05:54,897 --> 00:05:57,375 I'm working in Dumbo, Brooklyn, 110 00:05:57,399 --> 00:06:01,236 and in the building there's an architect whose name is Miguel McKelvey. 111 00:06:01,945 --> 00:06:06,050 And me and Miguel are talking about different ideas of real estate businesses. 112 00:06:06,074 --> 00:06:08,845 - I was attracted and interested in him because 113 00:06:08,869 --> 00:06:11,139 he was bringing energy to the room, 114 00:06:11,163 --> 00:06:13,474 and perhaps for him I could be a calming element 115 00:06:13,498 --> 00:06:15,935 and take in some of that energy that he had 116 00:06:15,959 --> 00:06:18,438 and reflect it back at him in an interesting way. 117 00:06:18,462 --> 00:06:20,398 And we went out to build a business 118 00:06:20,422 --> 00:06:22,484 that's going to change the way people work, 119 00:06:22,508 --> 00:06:24,861 that's based on community and redefined success. 120 00:06:24,885 --> 00:06:27,489 And from minute one with their partnership, 121 00:06:27,513 --> 00:06:29,741 it was Miguel who was Mr. Inside 122 00:06:29,765 --> 00:06:31,683 and Adam was Mr. Outside. 123 00:06:33,060 --> 00:06:34,329 The world has shifted. 124 00:06:34,353 --> 00:06:36,498 It used to be an "I" world. Right? 125 00:06:36,522 --> 00:06:39,125 IPhone, iMac, all about me, me, me. 126 00:06:39,149 --> 00:06:41,794 If you take the "me" and you flip it and you get the "we," 127 00:06:41,818 --> 00:06:44,255 you understand that we're about to change the way people work 128 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,699 and the way people live, but more importantly, change the world. 129 00:06:51,203 --> 00:06:52,847 The kibbutz. 130 00:06:52,871 --> 00:06:56,142 A working collective in a free society. 131 00:06:56,166 --> 00:06:58,394 Invented, unique, 132 00:06:58,418 --> 00:06:59,854 contemporary. 133 00:06:59,878 --> 00:07:04,150 The most important social experiment of the last hundred years. 134 00:07:04,174 --> 00:07:05,568 Every great business 135 00:07:05,592 --> 00:07:08,196 has a founding story and WeWork's is excellent. 136 00:07:08,220 --> 00:07:11,825 You have Adam and Miguel, uh, two children of communes. 137 00:07:11,849 --> 00:07:13,993 Literally grew up in communes 138 00:07:14,017 --> 00:07:17,747 and, you know, one in Oregon and one in Israel in a kibbutz. 139 00:07:17,771 --> 00:07:23,610 And they wind up together with this idea that they're gonna create a work commune. 140 00:07:24,903 --> 00:07:26,422 When we thought of WeWork, 141 00:07:26,446 --> 00:07:28,174 one of the thoughts that I had in my head is, 142 00:07:28,198 --> 00:07:29,926 we need a capitalistic kibbutz. 143 00:07:29,950 --> 00:07:33,429 On the one hand, let's create a sharing economy where everybody shares. 144 00:07:33,453 --> 00:07:35,974 On the other hand, if you choose to work harder than others, 145 00:07:35,998 --> 00:07:37,438 you should also be compensated more. 146 00:07:38,292 --> 00:07:39,811 Like any narrative, 147 00:07:39,835 --> 00:07:42,313 it gets boiled down and distilled. 148 00:07:42,337 --> 00:07:46,192 And as the company evolves, the founding story evolves. 149 00:07:46,216 --> 00:07:48,820 But their founding narrative actually really did translate 150 00:07:48,844 --> 00:07:51,447 to a lot of their early business success. 151 00:07:51,471 --> 00:07:54,242 - I mean, co-working, as we think of it now, 152 00:07:54,266 --> 00:07:56,619 didn't really exist at the time. 153 00:07:56,643 --> 00:08:00,832 Before WeWork, the real big player was Regus. 154 00:08:03,650 --> 00:08:05,545 - Welcome to Regus, the new way to work. 155 00:08:05,569 --> 00:08:09,757 A global workstyle solution for today's rapidly changing face of business. 156 00:08:09,781 --> 00:08:12,552 As corporate and institutional as you could get, 157 00:08:12,576 --> 00:08:14,387 with cubicles and dull colors. 158 00:08:14,411 --> 00:08:16,764 And walking into a Regus 159 00:08:16,788 --> 00:08:20,125 was like walking into the back of a dentist's office. 160 00:08:21,251 --> 00:08:23,021 We started by taking buildings. 161 00:08:23,045 --> 00:08:24,856 We cut them up to small spaces. 162 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,275 We built everything from glass. It was very communal. 163 00:08:27,299 --> 00:08:29,027 It's very see-through and transparent. 164 00:08:29,051 --> 00:08:32,071 We put in common spaces, and we basically created 165 00:08:32,095 --> 00:08:35,366 a community of small businesses, entrepreneurs and freelancers. 166 00:08:35,390 --> 00:08:39,245 And in that community, people are almost forced to help other people. 167 00:08:39,269 --> 00:08:42,165 And when you have a business community that's built 168 00:08:42,189 --> 00:08:46,568 on these kind of moral standards, everybody becomes more successful. 169 00:08:47,819 --> 00:08:51,257 - In January 2010, 170 00:08:51,281 --> 00:08:55,428 I went in to lead a networking meeting at 7 a. m., 171 00:08:55,452 --> 00:08:57,472 and that day the guest of a guest 172 00:08:57,496 --> 00:08:59,766 was Adam Neumann, the founder of WeWork. 173 00:08:59,790 --> 00:09:02,185 When the meeting ended, 174 00:09:02,209 --> 00:09:05,980 we ended up standing next to each other, talking, 175 00:09:06,004 --> 00:09:07,899 and he said, "Oh, I might need a mortgage." 176 00:09:07,923 --> 00:09:09,609 I said, "Well, I'm opening the mortgage seat. 177 00:09:09,633 --> 00:09:10,944 I'm gonna go do something else." 178 00:09:10,968 --> 00:09:13,196 He said, "What are you gonna do?" I said, "I don't know. 179 00:09:13,220 --> 00:09:16,366 I want to do something that lights me up and makes me feel excited." 180 00:09:16,390 --> 00:09:19,035 And he said, "Well, I just took this building down in Soho. 181 00:09:19,059 --> 00:09:21,412 "I'm launching this concept called WeWork. 182 00:09:21,436 --> 00:09:22,789 You should come and take a look." 183 00:09:29,111 --> 00:09:33,407 Three days later on Monday morning, I started as their second employee. 184 00:09:41,164 --> 00:09:44,227 I still have this email that Adam sent to me 185 00:09:44,251 --> 00:09:48,773 at one o'clock in the morning the night before my first morning. 186 00:09:48,797 --> 00:09:53,027 I woke up at 8 a. m. to an email that said, "Good morning, period. 187 00:09:53,051 --> 00:09:57,407 Let's build the largest networking community on the planet" 188 00:09:57,431 --> 00:09:59,492 And not even a period at the end. 189 00:09:59,516 --> 00:10:03,997 I showed up and we were three weeks before our opening day, 190 00:10:04,021 --> 00:10:07,876 where we opened the first half of one of the floors in our first building, 191 00:10:07,900 --> 00:10:09,586 which was 17 offices, 192 00:10:09,610 --> 00:10:12,630 and when I started on that first day, Adam said, 193 00:10:12,654 --> 00:10:16,259 "I want to open in three weeks and I want to be full with a wait list." 194 00:10:18,994 --> 00:10:21,848 And we were off to the races from the very beginning. 195 00:10:29,254 --> 00:10:31,608 - I want to talk to the investors. I don't know who they are 196 00:10:31,632 --> 00:10:33,485 and where they're at, but they're looking at this. 197 00:10:33,509 --> 00:10:36,070 I want them to feel that I'm talking to them. 198 00:10:36,094 --> 00:10:37,947 - At them. - At them. To them. 199 00:10:37,971 --> 00:10:39,616 This is a story that I'm telling them. 200 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,409 - Okay, then, go right to the camera. - Okay. 201 00:10:41,433 --> 00:10:43,661 Perfect. I'm ready. - Okay. 202 00:10:43,685 --> 00:10:45,455 Action. - Hey, guys. 203 00:10:45,479 --> 00:10:48,750 This is WeWork, the world's first physical social network. 204 00:10:48,774 --> 00:10:52,545 Our mission is to empower the world through collaboration. 205 00:10:52,569 --> 00:10:54,797 We know that the future of the world 206 00:10:54,821 --> 00:10:57,425 is in small business, not in corporate America. 207 00:10:57,449 --> 00:11:02,347 So we're building a community that's transparent and that's accountable. 208 00:11:02,371 --> 00:11:03,765 That is WeWork. 209 00:11:08,669 --> 00:11:10,855 Hey, guys, Patrick here and I wanted to give you 210 00:11:10,879 --> 00:11:13,149 a quick tour of my WeWork office. 211 00:11:13,173 --> 00:11:16,361 I moved into a new office space called WeWork. 212 00:11:18,095 --> 00:11:21,032 What I do like about WeWork, we can, like, work wherever, 213 00:11:21,056 --> 00:11:23,201 and it's just like a good environment to be in. 214 00:11:25,060 --> 00:11:27,622 There's a saying that companies in Silicon Valley 215 00:11:27,646 --> 00:11:29,916 are founded in garages. 216 00:11:29,940 --> 00:11:32,377 In New York City, they're founded in kitchens. 217 00:11:32,401 --> 00:11:35,713 There it is. That's my new space. 218 00:11:35,737 --> 00:11:37,131 Yeah. 219 00:11:37,155 --> 00:11:39,968 The thing that made WeWork more special 220 00:11:39,992 --> 00:11:43,596 or more attractive was just its marketing, right? 221 00:11:43,620 --> 00:11:45,265 - This says, "Do what you love." 222 00:11:45,289 --> 00:11:48,101 - Our friends who were doing their tech startups, 223 00:11:48,125 --> 00:11:49,727 they all worked in WeWorks. 224 00:11:49,751 --> 00:11:53,314 We didn't even consider any other co-working space. 225 00:11:53,338 --> 00:11:55,525 The thinking was, if you have a tech startup 226 00:11:55,549 --> 00:11:57,735 and you want it to be successful, 227 00:11:57,759 --> 00:11:59,779 you start it at a WeWork. 228 00:11:59,803 --> 00:12:02,407 - I love co-working spaces so much. 229 00:12:02,431 --> 00:12:05,243 So let's start over here at the snacks area. 230 00:12:05,267 --> 00:12:06,870 We have the snack area. 231 00:12:06,894 --> 00:12:08,788 Coffee, lemon water. 232 00:12:08,812 --> 00:12:10,081 "Do what you love." 233 00:12:10,105 --> 00:12:13,293 I love drinking coffee, so... I'm gonna do that. 234 00:12:13,317 --> 00:12:15,795 Everyone wanted to be an entrepreneur. 235 00:12:15,819 --> 00:12:17,630 We all want to raise $10 million. 236 00:12:17,654 --> 00:12:20,466 - I'm the founder of BrunchCritic.com. 237 00:12:20,490 --> 00:12:22,218 - Our company is SmileBack. 238 00:12:22,242 --> 00:12:24,179 - Co-founder of UPlanMe. 239 00:12:24,203 --> 00:12:25,889 - Scroll Kit. - Consumer. 240 00:12:25,913 --> 00:12:27,307 - Handshake. - MyThing. 241 00:12:27,331 --> 00:12:28,766 - Spindows. - Scruff. 242 00:12:28,790 --> 00:12:30,059 - Yoink. - RoomHints. 243 00:12:30,083 --> 00:12:32,211 - The company is Beer to Buds. 244 00:12:33,295 --> 00:12:36,316 WeWork embodied an optimism 245 00:12:36,340 --> 00:12:40,945 and this millennial excitement about how to work 246 00:12:40,969 --> 00:12:44,407 and how to do things together, do things flexibly 247 00:12:44,431 --> 00:12:49,603 and rebel against the office culture set by the '80s and '90s. 248 00:12:52,147 --> 00:12:55,210 It was almost like somehow being a member of a club, 249 00:12:55,234 --> 00:12:57,629 beyond just where your office building is. 250 00:12:57,653 --> 00:13:00,465 The world is changing, the way people work is changing. 251 00:13:00,489 --> 00:13:03,301 If you're 22 today and you're out of college, you can't go and work 252 00:13:03,325 --> 00:13:05,887 for corporate America in the old way and you need a new solution. 253 00:13:05,911 --> 00:13:08,348 We're sharing the same space, we're doing different businesses. 254 00:13:08,372 --> 00:13:11,834 And we understand that, through helping each other, we can become more successful. 255 00:13:12,626 --> 00:13:14,646 - How fast are you growing? - Very. 256 00:13:14,670 --> 00:13:16,481 What kind of numbers are we talking about? 257 00:13:16,505 --> 00:13:18,233 We're talking about probably one of the fastest 258 00:13:18,257 --> 00:13:21,468 physical expansions that has been seen for the past 10 years. 259 00:13:25,389 --> 00:13:28,868 - When I got introduced to Adam through a friend, 260 00:13:28,892 --> 00:13:31,246 uh, I came in. 261 00:13:31,270 --> 00:13:34,457 I didn't even know the company WeWork ever existed. 262 00:13:34,481 --> 00:13:38,086 He went right to the point. He's like, "Look, we don't have a lot of time. 263 00:13:38,110 --> 00:13:41,506 "I have a campground upstate. I want to host an event. 264 00:13:41,530 --> 00:13:43,967 I need you to help me. I believe that you can help me." 265 00:13:43,991 --> 00:13:47,011 And then he told me the budget, and I said, "Well... 266 00:13:47,035 --> 00:13:48,721 "you know, your budget's not too great. 267 00:13:48,745 --> 00:13:51,891 "I don't know how I'm, uh, you know, gonna really pull this off 268 00:13:51,915 --> 00:13:53,393 and make a couple dollars." 269 00:13:53,417 --> 00:13:55,520 He said, "Don't worry, you know, we're gonna grow. 270 00:13:55,544 --> 00:13:57,230 "We're gonna be big. You're gonna stay with us. 271 00:13:57,254 --> 00:14:00,233 You're gonna do a lot of work with us. You'll see, you'll see, you'll see." 272 00:14:00,257 --> 00:14:02,277 - It's exciting, it's gonna get bigger. 273 00:14:02,301 --> 00:14:04,237 Something about him stood out. 274 00:14:04,261 --> 00:14:08,158 I couldn't put my finger on it, but Adam's a very convincing guy. 275 00:14:08,182 --> 00:14:11,077 He's... He's got a big personality and... 276 00:14:11,101 --> 00:14:13,788 I walked out of that meeting, I said, "Okay, I'll make it happen." 277 00:14:16,064 --> 00:14:19,419 We pulled every favor... 278 00:14:19,443 --> 00:14:22,547 from equipment to performers. 279 00:14:22,571 --> 00:14:26,217 And within a couple weeks, produced what's now become 280 00:14:26,241 --> 00:14:27,468 WeWork Summer Camp. 281 00:14:27,492 --> 00:14:29,596 Hello, WeWorld. 282 00:14:29,620 --> 00:14:33,349 Thanks to you, things have been going very well. 283 00:14:33,373 --> 00:14:37,770 And in gratitude, we decided to throw a 72-hour weekend... 284 00:14:37,794 --> 00:14:39,522 ...rager! 285 00:14:42,299 --> 00:14:45,111 WeWork Summer Camp was Fyre Festival gone right. 286 00:14:45,135 --> 00:14:46,988 Do it, do it! 287 00:14:47,012 --> 00:14:50,074 It's this mini festival for members at WeWork, 288 00:14:50,098 --> 00:14:52,076 and all the employees 289 00:14:52,100 --> 00:14:56,706 going to this remote children's summer camp 290 00:14:56,730 --> 00:14:58,106 in the middle of nowhere. 291 00:14:59,608 --> 00:15:01,252 The most rad activity? 292 00:15:01,276 --> 00:15:04,506 Oh, my gosh, there has been so much fun stuff to do. 293 00:15:04,530 --> 00:15:06,591 Honestly, these obstacle ropes really challenged me. 294 00:15:06,615 --> 00:15:08,510 I was contemplating life up there. 295 00:15:08,534 --> 00:15:11,179 - Whoaaaa! - I think they're trying to kill us. 296 00:15:11,203 --> 00:15:13,598 - I was just wakeboarding. - Waterskiing and tubing. 297 00:15:13,622 --> 00:15:14,807 Hit my head really hard 298 00:15:14,831 --> 00:15:17,060 and then had to lay down and drink coconut water afterwards. 299 00:15:17,084 --> 00:15:19,938 - We almost tipped over like four times and I had to ask the lifeguards 300 00:15:19,962 --> 00:15:21,898 to come get me, 'cause I was so scared. 301 00:15:21,922 --> 00:15:24,734 I went to the survival skills thing and that was really fun. 302 00:15:24,758 --> 00:15:26,069 - Oh, the balloon things where 303 00:15:26,093 --> 00:15:28,253 you're like in the bubble and like you run into people. 304 00:15:30,097 --> 00:15:33,034 WeWork Summer Camp, I think, really kicked off 305 00:15:33,058 --> 00:15:35,578 the entire event side of the company, 306 00:15:35,602 --> 00:15:39,666 which became one of the most well-known, you know, elements 307 00:15:39,690 --> 00:15:41,125 of what WeWork was. 308 00:15:43,944 --> 00:15:46,297 - I think I was probably, I don't wanna misstate it, 309 00:15:46,321 --> 00:15:48,007 like the tenth lawyer at WeWork. 310 00:15:48,031 --> 00:15:50,677 Um, and it was just an amazing, amazing culture. 311 00:15:50,701 --> 00:15:53,137 You know, the people were great. 312 00:15:53,161 --> 00:15:55,348 Uh, I think they shared the same values I did, right? 313 00:15:55,372 --> 00:15:59,394 They basically had, it was like a "work hard, play hard" environment. 314 00:16:01,879 --> 00:16:04,899 But it's totally different from that at a white-shoe law firm. 315 00:16:04,923 --> 00:16:07,569 And that's because of these company events. 316 00:16:07,593 --> 00:16:09,821 I mean, it is, it is legitimately 317 00:16:09,845 --> 00:16:12,448 the craziest work experience you'll ever have in your life. 318 00:16:16,351 --> 00:16:19,122 I think at four o'clock, they start serving alcohol. 319 00:16:19,146 --> 00:16:21,833 And when I say they're serving alcohol, 320 00:16:21,857 --> 00:16:23,585 they are serving alcohol. 321 00:16:23,609 --> 00:16:26,754 Like every 50 yards, there's like a bar set up. 322 00:16:26,778 --> 00:16:28,173 And it's unlimited. 323 00:16:28,197 --> 00:16:30,967 Like, if you wanted to drink till the end of time, 324 00:16:30,991 --> 00:16:32,427 you could drink till the end of time. 325 00:16:32,451 --> 00:16:35,180 - Come on, Neumann. Gimme some more, gimme some more! 326 00:16:37,331 --> 00:16:38,641 At all these events, 327 00:16:38,665 --> 00:16:41,769 during the day you listen to presentations, speeches. 328 00:16:41,793 --> 00:16:44,213 There was always like some famous people there. 329 00:16:44,922 --> 00:16:46,774 And then, you know, at night, you do the WeWork thing, 330 00:16:46,798 --> 00:16:48,193 which is kind of just party. 331 00:16:51,803 --> 00:16:55,116 Adam grew up in Israel, only had one TV channel. 332 00:16:55,140 --> 00:16:57,410 And he saw a lot of movies like Animal House ... 333 00:16:57,434 --> 00:17:00,288 - Thanks, I needed that. 334 00:17:00,312 --> 00:17:01,789 And The Gong Show. 335 00:17:01,813 --> 00:17:04,042 So, in a lot of the WeWork space, there was a gong. 336 00:17:04,066 --> 00:17:05,877 At a lot of big events, somebody hit a gong. 337 00:17:07,361 --> 00:17:10,757 And all WeWork spaces, everybody knows, there was kegs of beer. 338 00:17:10,781 --> 00:17:13,426 You know, it's beautiful young people. 339 00:17:13,450 --> 00:17:15,803 Coworkers got along there amazingly. 340 00:17:15,827 --> 00:17:18,515 Like, you met people from all over the world. 341 00:17:20,874 --> 00:17:23,686 I think people really liked the coolness of it. 342 00:17:23,710 --> 00:17:26,147 And that's kind of what was being sold. 343 00:17:28,173 --> 00:17:32,070 - I am, I am so happy to have all of you here tonight. 344 00:17:32,094 --> 00:17:33,905 Like, this is unbelievable. 345 00:17:33,929 --> 00:17:34,865 Who was here last year? 346 00:17:34,889 --> 00:17:36,569 Raise your hand if you were here last year! 347 00:17:39,268 --> 00:17:42,831 We were very worried that we couldn't do better than last year, 348 00:17:42,855 --> 00:17:45,542 and I said to everybody, "There must be a way." 349 00:17:45,566 --> 00:17:48,336 I said, "Well, what if we add one more day, 350 00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:51,965 "do twice as many people, five times as much alcohol? 351 00:17:51,989 --> 00:17:53,758 Then we could do this again!" 352 00:17:53,782 --> 00:17:55,802 Alcohol! 353 00:17:55,826 --> 00:17:57,804 I think the thing that all of us know is, 354 00:17:57,828 --> 00:17:59,764 if you wanna succeed in this world, 355 00:17:59,788 --> 00:18:02,016 you have to build something that has intention. 356 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,854 And what puts us together, all of us here, is because we wanna do something 357 00:18:05,878 --> 00:18:08,523 that actually makes the world a better place, 358 00:18:08,547 --> 00:18:10,400 and we wanna make money doing it. 359 00:18:12,759 --> 00:18:14,428 It's okay. 360 00:18:15,929 --> 00:18:19,325 - I moved to New York in my early 20s, 361 00:18:19,349 --> 00:18:24,831 and I got off of a plane with two suitcases. 362 00:18:24,855 --> 00:18:27,083 And I was going to live with my sister's friend. 363 00:18:31,904 --> 00:18:35,341 I remember taking a cab over there, 364 00:18:35,365 --> 00:18:37,594 and it was at night and just looking at the city 365 00:18:37,618 --> 00:18:39,429 and being in awe. 366 00:18:39,453 --> 00:18:41,538 Like I truly could not believe I was there. 367 00:18:43,790 --> 00:18:47,145 My first job was at a hedge fund, 368 00:18:47,169 --> 00:18:49,772 and I was an executive assistant there. 369 00:18:49,796 --> 00:18:53,359 Like I had moved to New York to "find my dreams." 370 00:18:53,383 --> 00:18:56,553 And here I was really, really kind of lost. 371 00:18:57,304 --> 00:19:01,284 The friend reached out to me and said, "I have a friend who has a startup 372 00:19:01,308 --> 00:19:03,703 and he's looking for an assistant. Are you interested?" 373 00:19:03,727 --> 00:19:05,270 And I got connected to Adam. 374 00:19:06,688 --> 00:19:10,335 I walked in and Adam was super casual, 375 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,255 very laid-back, very charismatic from the moment I saw him. 376 00:19:14,279 --> 00:19:17,008 And he's very tall. 377 00:19:17,032 --> 00:19:20,803 And so he has a like very commanding presence. 378 00:19:20,827 --> 00:19:23,723 Um, and he's also really, really... 379 00:19:23,747 --> 00:19:25,391 he's really friendly. 380 00:19:25,415 --> 00:19:28,895 - Hello, how are you? - This is our founder, Adam Neumann. 381 00:19:28,919 --> 00:19:30,563 - Hi. - Hey, how are you, Esther? 382 00:19:30,587 --> 00:19:33,650 - Nice to meet you. - Joseph, why is your office the messiest one? 383 00:19:33,674 --> 00:19:35,568 Shake my hand, it's good for the movie. 384 00:19:35,592 --> 00:19:37,153 Don't be shy, look at the camera. 385 00:19:37,177 --> 00:19:38,613 That's good. - Hello. 386 00:19:38,637 --> 00:19:40,698 - And he was giving me a tour of the space, 387 00:19:40,722 --> 00:19:43,034 and I was interviewing at the same time, 388 00:19:43,058 --> 00:19:46,704 and we were just talking about their dream of what WeWork would become. 389 00:19:46,728 --> 00:19:49,332 - You gotta put something that we can grow into. 390 00:19:49,356 --> 00:19:51,292 We need to think... 391 00:19:51,316 --> 00:19:53,211 half a year forward if not a year. 392 00:19:53,235 --> 00:19:56,464 This is not just about changing the way people work. 393 00:19:56,488 --> 00:19:59,300 We're gonna change, ultimately, 394 00:19:59,324 --> 00:20:02,703 every facet of the way that people interact. 395 00:20:03,453 --> 00:20:05,348 It just really spoke to me. 396 00:20:05,372 --> 00:20:08,184 And I felt like, I felt changed from that moment. 397 00:20:08,208 --> 00:20:09,602 - Hey. 398 00:20:09,626 --> 00:20:13,231 It's embarrassing, though, with the camera in my face. 399 00:20:13,255 --> 00:20:16,109 Millennials don't just want a job. 400 00:20:16,133 --> 00:20:18,778 And they don't just want a career. 401 00:20:18,802 --> 00:20:21,072 They want a calling. 402 00:20:21,096 --> 00:20:23,575 And I will give Adam Neumann credit here. 403 00:20:23,599 --> 00:20:25,618 He assumed that everybody 404 00:20:25,642 --> 00:20:29,414 was achieving their calling by participating in WeWork. 405 00:20:29,438 --> 00:20:33,918 He'll go down as one of the most incredible salesmen in the world 406 00:20:33,942 --> 00:20:37,213 because he can get anyone to do 407 00:20:37,237 --> 00:20:40,758 whatever it is that he wants them to do and what he sees in the vision. 408 00:20:40,782 --> 00:20:44,804 - I lived in 13 different places until I moved to the U. S. when I was 23. 409 00:20:44,828 --> 00:20:48,600 And I had to go through many different communities, 410 00:20:48,624 --> 00:20:51,769 and every time you go to a new school as a kid, it's not an easy thing. 411 00:20:51,793 --> 00:20:54,856 Adam's world view was heavily shaped 412 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,609 by this kind of nomadic childhood 413 00:20:57,633 --> 00:21:00,195 and a desire to belong. 414 00:21:00,219 --> 00:21:03,781 What he always wanted was to kind of be part of this 415 00:21:03,805 --> 00:21:05,950 "sum is greater than the parts" collective 416 00:21:05,974 --> 00:21:08,786 where he still is kind of the center of attention. 417 00:21:08,810 --> 00:21:10,872 - When I say "We," you say... 418 00:21:10,896 --> 00:21:12,332 Work! - We! 419 00:21:12,356 --> 00:21:14,125 Work! - We! 420 00:21:14,149 --> 00:21:15,627 - Work! - We! 421 00:21:15,651 --> 00:21:17,754 At all these company events, 422 00:21:17,778 --> 00:21:21,466 Adam comes out, the lights are down, 423 00:21:21,490 --> 00:21:25,178 the strobe lights are going, the crazy graphics are going. 424 00:21:25,202 --> 00:21:30,475 Please welcome WeWork co-founder and CEO, Adam Neumann. 425 00:21:34,878 --> 00:21:38,566 - Thank you so much for coming tonight, and I can't wait to get started. 426 00:21:38,590 --> 00:21:41,319 - I've kind of equated Adam to like, you know, 427 00:21:41,343 --> 00:21:44,280 one of these, you know, spiritual or religious people... 428 00:21:44,304 --> 00:21:46,115 - Lord God... 429 00:21:46,139 --> 00:21:50,411 ...who think they can cure like the plague by touching your head. 430 00:21:50,435 --> 00:21:51,704 Oh, Jesus! 431 00:21:51,728 --> 00:21:53,748 - Like he literally had people bought in 432 00:21:53,772 --> 00:21:55,750 and he grabs in a room like that... 433 00:21:55,774 --> 00:21:58,878 - You're a creator, and you're a creator, and I know you're a creator. 434 00:21:58,902 --> 00:22:01,840 And the reason we are all creators 435 00:22:01,864 --> 00:22:04,884 is because we do something that's greater than ourselves. 436 00:22:04,908 --> 00:22:07,262 - When I speak to somebody who's so passionate about something, 437 00:22:07,286 --> 00:22:09,264 it's really difficult to not 438 00:22:09,288 --> 00:22:11,474 let that soak over me. 439 00:22:11,498 --> 00:22:14,269 You could not help but drink in what he was saying, 440 00:22:14,293 --> 00:22:15,687 and it became your dream, too. 441 00:22:15,711 --> 00:22:18,064 If we know how to treat each other... 442 00:22:18,088 --> 00:22:21,151 You know, it's a lot of younger people who've never really worked before. 443 00:22:21,175 --> 00:22:24,654 They were working like around the clock, and they really, really believe in this. 444 00:22:24,678 --> 00:22:28,116 I was in my mid-20s looking for purpose 445 00:22:28,140 --> 00:22:31,286 and here's this person selling this dream, 446 00:22:31,310 --> 00:22:34,789 and... I was an easy target for that. 447 00:22:34,813 --> 00:22:38,918 I definitely wanted the world he was telling me about. 448 00:22:38,942 --> 00:22:43,298 - I sometimes feel that every single person in this room 449 00:22:43,322 --> 00:22:46,801 is me having a different experience. 450 00:22:46,825 --> 00:22:48,136 And imagine... 451 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,722 If you're a 25-year-old and it's your first job, 452 00:22:50,746 --> 00:22:53,683 going to orientation and chanting, "WeWork, WeWork, WeWork!" 453 00:22:53,707 --> 00:22:55,393 you know, may seem normal. 454 00:22:55,417 --> 00:22:57,419 All right, so now, go on, Sherman. 455 00:22:58,504 --> 00:23:01,441 If you're 45 and you've worked at law firms and whatever, 456 00:23:01,465 --> 00:23:03,151 you're like, "Okay, this is different." 457 00:23:03,175 --> 00:23:04,652 But, you know, you're into it, you're there. 458 00:23:04,676 --> 00:23:06,595 You get down with what people are doing. 459 00:23:08,597 --> 00:23:12,118 My experience with WeWork, it was like living in another world. 460 00:23:12,142 --> 00:23:15,830 It was living in a world where people were just happy. 461 00:23:15,854 --> 00:23:18,291 Right? They were happy to be around each other. 462 00:23:18,315 --> 00:23:23,046 What WeWork created was this environment of present existence 463 00:23:23,070 --> 00:23:26,925 and celebrating life with, with meaning. 464 00:23:26,949 --> 00:23:31,304 The world is a dark place, and this little cave of WeWork 465 00:23:31,328 --> 00:23:33,515 was my happy spot. 466 00:23:33,539 --> 00:23:37,602 - The only thing that stands in the way of achieving anything you want 467 00:23:37,626 --> 00:23:39,062 is just you. 468 00:23:39,086 --> 00:23:40,939 You know the most amazing thing... 469 00:23:40,963 --> 00:23:44,984 At one of these events, I was sitting towards the back, 470 00:23:45,008 --> 00:23:46,820 and there was an older usher there. 471 00:23:46,844 --> 00:23:48,822 And it was an African-American guy. 472 00:23:48,846 --> 00:23:51,825 And he just started asking me some questions. 473 00:23:51,849 --> 00:23:54,577 And he was like, you know, "What's the company about? 474 00:23:54,601 --> 00:23:56,204 What do you do there?" 475 00:23:56,228 --> 00:23:58,289 And, you know, I'm answering his questions. 476 00:23:58,313 --> 00:24:03,002 We're going on and on, and he just kind of changed his tone of voice 477 00:24:03,026 --> 00:24:05,088 and he kind of looked down on me a little bit 478 00:24:05,112 --> 00:24:08,132 and he was like, "Brother, can I ask you a serious question?" 479 00:24:08,156 --> 00:24:10,426 I was like, "Yeah. Sure, ask me the question." 480 00:24:10,450 --> 00:24:12,595 He says, "Is this some kind of cult?" 481 00:24:19,626 --> 00:24:22,647 I had been to a couple of the summer camps, 482 00:24:22,671 --> 00:24:25,942 and I saw how much fun everybody was having 483 00:24:25,966 --> 00:24:28,027 within the We community. 484 00:24:28,051 --> 00:24:31,739 So then a friend of mine who worked for WeWork 485 00:24:31,763 --> 00:24:34,117 called me up and said, "Look... 486 00:24:34,141 --> 00:24:35,827 "WeWork is doing this new thing. 487 00:24:35,851 --> 00:24:38,246 "I can't tell you anything about it right now. 488 00:24:38,270 --> 00:24:43,501 "Um, it's going to be for the coolest people in New York, 489 00:24:43,525 --> 00:24:46,296 "and I promise you are going to want to be a part of it. 490 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,383 Are you willing to break your lease to do this new WeWork venture?" 491 00:24:50,407 --> 00:24:53,094 Like... "Can I have a couple days?" 492 00:24:53,118 --> 00:24:55,763 And she said, "No, you can't have a couple days. 493 00:24:55,787 --> 00:24:58,850 I need to know right now, are you willing to break your lease for this?" 494 00:24:58,874 --> 00:25:01,644 Uh, and I said, "I guess... 495 00:25:01,668 --> 00:25:02,937 Yeah." 496 00:25:02,961 --> 00:25:05,464 Reluctantly. I said, "Yeah, I will do it." 497 00:25:07,382 --> 00:25:10,987 So a couple of weeks later, I got this invitation 498 00:25:11,011 --> 00:25:15,307 for what looked like Eyes Wide Shut , that Tom Cruise movie. 499 00:25:16,183 --> 00:25:18,536 Like, non-informational whatsoever. 500 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,706 A time, a place, a date, and that's it, you know. 501 00:25:21,730 --> 00:25:25,168 "I'll see you there," basically. So I was like, "Jesus, okay." 502 00:25:25,192 --> 00:25:29,005 So I show up and Adam Neumann was there at this initial thing, 503 00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:31,799 and there was maybe 500 people in this room, 504 00:25:31,823 --> 00:25:35,178 and they revealed what was going on. 505 00:25:35,202 --> 00:25:38,598 WeWork is starting WeLive, 506 00:25:38,622 --> 00:25:43,812 that is all about this new way of living. 507 00:25:43,836 --> 00:25:49,049 And we had a very distinct opportunity to be the first people in there. 508 00:25:50,217 --> 00:25:54,489 I believed every word that came out of Adam's mouth. 509 00:25:54,513 --> 00:25:59,118 - The success of this will be if you guys feel like this is your home. 510 00:25:59,142 --> 00:26:01,538 He seemed like he was talking 511 00:26:01,562 --> 00:26:03,915 like a man on a mission. 512 00:26:03,939 --> 00:26:05,333 So I signed the thing 513 00:26:05,357 --> 00:26:08,294 and they got back to me and asked me to write 514 00:26:08,318 --> 00:26:13,299 a very sort of generic "why you should live here." 515 00:26:13,323 --> 00:26:14,592 "Why should we pick you?" 516 00:26:14,616 --> 00:26:18,638 Like I didn't know anything about WeLive, 517 00:26:18,662 --> 00:26:23,393 so I was essentially writing a book report for a book that I hadn't read. 518 00:26:23,417 --> 00:26:25,311 It's one of those things where you're like, 519 00:26:25,335 --> 00:26:27,730 all I have to say is, "Wow!" 520 00:26:27,754 --> 00:26:33,194 So, you know, I wrote way too long of an essay than I needed to. 521 00:26:33,218 --> 00:26:38,223 And, uh, shortly after that, I was... accepted. 522 00:26:40,309 --> 00:26:43,705 This was supposed to be a space where it's move-in ready. 523 00:26:43,729 --> 00:26:45,665 You don't need anything. 524 00:26:45,689 --> 00:26:49,085 So I packed a bag, just one big bag, 525 00:26:49,109 --> 00:26:52,738 like a drifter, and walked into the space. 526 00:26:53,697 --> 00:26:56,408 And it was... 527 00:26:57,492 --> 00:26:59,387 stunning, it was beautiful. 528 00:26:59,411 --> 00:27:02,247 You know, you walked in and everything was perfect. 529 00:27:03,707 --> 00:27:06,793 I was the first designer at WeLive. 530 00:27:07,544 --> 00:27:08,688 I moved into WeLive, 531 00:27:08,712 --> 00:27:11,524 because I was one of the first members to be a beta tester. 532 00:27:11,548 --> 00:27:14,652 And that meant that, for the first six months, 533 00:27:14,676 --> 00:27:17,322 there was a drastically reduced price. 534 00:27:17,346 --> 00:27:20,492 I had designed the space with my colleagues, 535 00:27:20,516 --> 00:27:22,368 and I couldn't pass up the opportunity, 536 00:27:22,392 --> 00:27:24,662 and it was really cool because you were living 537 00:27:24,686 --> 00:27:26,939 in this brand-new living situation. 538 00:27:28,774 --> 00:27:31,002 The Murphy bed was built into the couch. 539 00:27:31,026 --> 00:27:33,171 There was a little desk tucked into a corner 540 00:27:33,195 --> 00:27:35,256 that you could put your computer on. 541 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,593 The whole thing may have been 200 square feet. 542 00:27:38,617 --> 00:27:41,161 Might have been 200 square feet. Like on a good day. 543 00:27:42,287 --> 00:27:44,807 But it was all about community. 544 00:27:44,831 --> 00:27:50,814 I think the initial group of people definitely fit a certain criteria. 545 00:27:50,838 --> 00:27:55,217 I mean, beyond being young with no actual responsibilities. 546 00:27:55,717 --> 00:27:58,029 - A lot of single people. Everybody was single. 547 00:27:58,053 --> 00:28:00,657 We actually had a saying that everything had to be designed 548 00:28:00,681 --> 00:28:02,075 to hold the weight of two people. 549 00:28:02,099 --> 00:28:04,702 Guess what all those people had in common 550 00:28:04,726 --> 00:28:09,833 was the ability to pause their personal lives to try out this new thing. 551 00:28:09,857 --> 00:28:13,419 They appealed to the same WeWork generation of millennials. 552 00:28:13,443 --> 00:28:16,464 A lot of people worked at WeWork who lived at WeLive at the time. 553 00:28:16,488 --> 00:28:21,177 A very, very small percentage of us were outsiders, 554 00:28:21,201 --> 00:28:22,536 I guess you could say. 555 00:28:23,537 --> 00:28:29,060 The first six months, it was weird if someone left the building. 556 00:28:29,084 --> 00:28:32,438 If someone were like, "Hey, I'm going to a friend's birthday party," 557 00:28:32,462 --> 00:28:34,691 and the very common next question is, 558 00:28:34,715 --> 00:28:36,192 "Oh, which floor is it on?" 559 00:28:36,216 --> 00:28:39,070 That's one of the benefits of co-living is, 560 00:28:39,094 --> 00:28:41,865 you move in, you get friends automatically, you spend time with them. 561 00:28:41,889 --> 00:28:44,909 So it becomes your whole social circle. 562 00:28:44,933 --> 00:28:47,662 It all felt like everybody was really dedicated 563 00:28:47,686 --> 00:28:49,747 to making this idea work, 564 00:28:49,771 --> 00:28:52,917 this sort of utopian... 565 00:28:52,941 --> 00:28:56,296 society of living situations, 566 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,674 without really thinking 567 00:28:59,698 --> 00:29:03,845 of the consequences of that. 568 00:29:17,382 --> 00:29:20,802 WeWork wanted to become a unicorn. 569 00:29:22,596 --> 00:29:27,017 A unicorn is a company valued at $1 billion. 570 00:29:30,354 --> 00:29:32,957 That one beautiful unicorn 571 00:29:32,981 --> 00:29:36,211 that can return a hundred times your investment, 572 00:29:36,235 --> 00:29:39,738 that's how you're gonna make a lot of money as a venture capitalist. 573 00:29:40,364 --> 00:29:43,301 So the entire world of venture capital basically 574 00:29:43,325 --> 00:29:44,368 is on a unicorn hunt. 575 00:29:46,328 --> 00:29:48,389 Finding the next Uber, 576 00:29:48,413 --> 00:29:50,683 finding the next Facebook, finding the next Google, 577 00:29:50,707 --> 00:29:54,062 that's going to make you a billionaire 578 00:29:54,086 --> 00:29:56,272 just by picking and betting on the right horse, 579 00:29:56,296 --> 00:29:58,173 or in this case, the right unicorn. 580 00:30:01,176 --> 00:30:04,739 When WeWork was in its major New York growth period, 581 00:30:04,763 --> 00:30:07,492 there were a lot of big players who saw the potential. 582 00:30:07,516 --> 00:30:09,911 Venture capital firms saw this 583 00:30:09,935 --> 00:30:11,913 as a really great growth play but they had to move fast. 584 00:30:11,937 --> 00:30:14,082 - I liked him immediately. 585 00:30:14,106 --> 00:30:16,501 Adam's just a charming, charismatic person 586 00:30:16,525 --> 00:30:18,777 who is very persuasive to a lot of people. 587 00:30:19,695 --> 00:30:21,256 In many ways for investors, 588 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,007 WeWork was the future of work. 589 00:30:23,031 --> 00:30:26,261 It became this poster child for this growing trend 590 00:30:26,285 --> 00:30:30,807 of flexible offices, um, kind of digital nomads. 591 00:30:30,831 --> 00:30:33,309 Another thing that drove these investors was FOMO, 592 00:30:33,333 --> 00:30:34,602 fear of missing out. 593 00:30:34,626 --> 00:30:37,814 They had seen what venture capital firms had reaped 594 00:30:37,838 --> 00:30:40,441 with all these startups, and they wanted to get in the action. 595 00:30:40,465 --> 00:30:43,444 For many people, WeWork was that next big thing. 596 00:30:43,468 --> 00:30:47,490 WeWork was basically getting interest from seed investors 597 00:30:47,514 --> 00:30:49,492 who were thinking, "Oh, this is a small company. 598 00:30:49,516 --> 00:30:52,120 I'm gonna get in on the ground with a small check." 599 00:30:52,144 --> 00:30:55,999 And yet they had quietly already reached a billion-dollar valuation, 600 00:30:56,023 --> 00:31:00,003 i.e., one of New York's very few tech unicorns, 601 00:31:00,027 --> 00:31:02,589 and yet people didn't know this because they hadn't announced it. 602 00:31:02,613 --> 00:31:04,507 I'm like, wait a second. 603 00:31:04,531 --> 00:31:06,843 There's a billion-dollar startup in New York 604 00:31:06,867 --> 00:31:09,554 that everybody wants to be a part of 605 00:31:09,578 --> 00:31:11,556 and nobody has a sense of how big it is yet. 606 00:31:11,580 --> 00:31:14,350 And so that's when I started spending a lot of time with Adam, 607 00:31:14,374 --> 00:31:16,585 to try to understand the company. 608 00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:27,489 - New York real estate is one of the most interesting markets 609 00:31:27,513 --> 00:31:29,157 of any kind in the world, 610 00:31:29,181 --> 00:31:32,785 because you have to go back to the days of John Jacob Astor, 611 00:31:32,809 --> 00:31:37,582 the famous saying, "Nobody ever got poor with New York City real estate." 612 00:31:37,606 --> 00:31:39,584 But there's a caveat to that, 613 00:31:39,608 --> 00:31:41,669 which is you have to have incredibly sharp elbows 614 00:31:41,693 --> 00:31:43,278 and you have to play for keeps. 615 00:31:44,780 --> 00:31:47,050 It is male-dominated. 616 00:31:47,074 --> 00:31:49,219 Businesses, portfolios. 617 00:31:49,243 --> 00:31:52,597 A lot of familial wealth in the city. 618 00:31:52,621 --> 00:31:56,559 It is a shark-eat-shark industry. 619 00:31:58,418 --> 00:32:01,940 The Roses and the LeFraks and the Kushners and even the Trumps. 620 00:32:01,964 --> 00:32:05,068 It's not really about entrepreneurs per se, 621 00:32:05,092 --> 00:32:07,278 but it's about families, it's about dynasties. 622 00:32:07,302 --> 00:32:10,448 It's generally the kind of business that once you're in 623 00:32:10,472 --> 00:32:13,409 and you establish a beachhead, uh, you're in. 624 00:32:13,433 --> 00:32:16,246 - So it's almost like you're a real estate company wrapped 625 00:32:16,270 --> 00:32:19,165 in this sort of, in this tech sheen. 626 00:32:19,189 --> 00:32:21,084 - We're definitely not a real estate company. 627 00:32:21,108 --> 00:32:23,753 We are a community of creators. 628 00:32:23,777 --> 00:32:26,548 We create environment for entrepreneurs and freelancers. 629 00:32:26,572 --> 00:32:30,552 We leverage technology to connect people. And it's a new way of working. 630 00:32:30,576 --> 00:32:32,887 And just like Uber is the sharing economy for cars 631 00:32:32,911 --> 00:32:34,389 - and Citi Bike for bicycle... - Right. 632 00:32:34,413 --> 00:32:36,975 ...we're the sharing economy for space. 633 00:32:38,667 --> 00:32:40,728 Do you buy the properties? 634 00:32:40,752 --> 00:32:42,522 So we definitely do not buy the property. 635 00:32:42,546 --> 00:32:44,941 That again would make us a real estate company. Exactly. 636 00:32:44,965 --> 00:32:47,235 We create long-term leases with landlords, 637 00:32:47,259 --> 00:32:50,530 and then we take the space and we break it up and we create the community 638 00:32:50,554 --> 00:32:53,158 and the connections that happen between our members. 639 00:32:53,182 --> 00:32:54,951 I saw what he was doing. 640 00:32:54,975 --> 00:32:57,912 I made a judgment as to this man's leadership capabilities, 641 00:32:57,936 --> 00:32:59,873 which are truly extraordinary, okay? 642 00:32:59,897 --> 00:33:04,127 It's phenomenal, and it's a great concept, and it's continuing to explode. 643 00:33:04,151 --> 00:33:07,797 - Taking these distressed buildings and flipping them in a new way, 644 00:33:07,821 --> 00:33:10,216 that was an insight that no one else had. 645 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,011 And, you know, they're validated by the smartest people in real estate 646 00:33:13,035 --> 00:33:15,388 being like, "Wow! That was a really interesting idea. 647 00:33:15,412 --> 00:33:18,207 It may be really risky, but it's an interesting idea." 648 00:33:21,418 --> 00:33:23,980 Pretty quickly, the Kushner family, 649 00:33:24,004 --> 00:33:27,525 the Rudin family, and Boston Properties 650 00:33:27,549 --> 00:33:30,361 were all onboard with this idea. 651 00:33:30,385 --> 00:33:34,240 It was validating to the establishment 652 00:33:34,264 --> 00:33:37,243 and it was also validating to Wall Street. 653 00:33:37,267 --> 00:33:41,539 You know, JP Morgan leads a large investment in WeWork. 654 00:33:41,563 --> 00:33:44,959 - Adam loved to namedrop to people. 655 00:33:44,983 --> 00:33:48,129 And, I mean, Jamie Dimon is the world's... 656 00:33:48,153 --> 00:33:50,131 top banker, 657 00:33:50,155 --> 00:33:53,534 and he would tell people he was his personal banker. 658 00:33:56,995 --> 00:33:59,474 They started to consume everything. 659 00:33:59,498 --> 00:34:00,808 They were renting as many office spaces 660 00:34:00,832 --> 00:34:02,310 in as many neighborhoods as possible. 661 00:34:02,334 --> 00:34:04,294 It became a literal land grab. 662 00:34:06,213 --> 00:34:08,691 All of a sudden, WeWork became 663 00:34:08,715 --> 00:34:12,487 the largest lessee of office space in all of New York City. 664 00:34:25,232 --> 00:34:27,168 Good afternoon, all of you. 665 00:34:27,192 --> 00:34:30,463 When we sat down at the beginning of this year 666 00:34:30,487 --> 00:34:32,632 to decide the agenda, 667 00:34:32,656 --> 00:34:34,843 the first name we put on the list and circled 668 00:34:34,867 --> 00:34:37,804 was Adam Neumann of WeWork, and you're about to see why. 669 00:34:37,828 --> 00:34:41,808 But by the way, having lunch next to Adam 670 00:34:41,832 --> 00:34:43,518 and having him coach me 671 00:34:43,542 --> 00:34:46,020 on how we did the seating all wrong here was... 672 00:34:46,044 --> 00:34:49,107 I mean, three or four times, he was very... 673 00:34:49,131 --> 00:34:52,652 - But it bothers me because the center of energy in this room is right here 674 00:34:52,676 --> 00:34:55,029 and no one's sitting there, and it's right in front of us. 675 00:34:55,053 --> 00:34:57,824 And it's these little details that we pay attention to, 676 00:34:57,848 --> 00:34:59,909 and this is why, this is how you bring people together, 677 00:34:59,933 --> 00:35:02,704 and we have people sitting there facing the wrong direction, 678 00:35:02,728 --> 00:35:04,831 and there's enough room for all of us to get closer. 679 00:35:04,855 --> 00:35:09,627 - The last... 680 00:35:09,651 --> 00:35:12,797 - I remember in the very beginning walking into the office 681 00:35:12,821 --> 00:35:15,675 and seeing Rebekah and looking at her and saying, 682 00:35:15,699 --> 00:35:18,469 "Your husband has an incredible vision." 683 00:35:18,493 --> 00:35:21,806 And she said, "I know. It's why I married him." 684 00:35:27,503 --> 00:35:28,629 - Are you okay? 685 00:35:32,591 --> 00:35:34,402 Oh, fuck, are you on drugs? 686 00:35:34,426 --> 00:35:35,653 - No. - Are you? 687 00:35:35,677 --> 00:35:37,739 - No! - What are you on right now? 688 00:35:37,763 --> 00:35:39,657 - I'm not on anything, Robin. 689 00:35:39,681 --> 00:35:42,076 Fuck. 690 00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:44,621 Rebekah was Adam's wife, 691 00:35:44,645 --> 00:35:49,542 and she had an office with us because she was a filmmaker, an actress. 692 00:35:51,777 --> 00:35:56,883 She is, uh, a cousin of Gwyneth Paltrow. 693 00:35:56,907 --> 00:35:58,968 You can't go far hearing about Rebekah 694 00:35:58,992 --> 00:36:01,721 or talking to Rebekah without that kind of coming up. 695 00:36:01,745 --> 00:36:05,099 I went to a screening of a film that she created. 696 00:36:05,123 --> 00:36:06,792 We all went to the screening. 697 00:36:07,251 --> 00:36:09,187 - This is your entire life story? 698 00:36:09,211 --> 00:36:12,172 - That is my entire story. - No, it isn't. 699 00:36:14,341 --> 00:36:16,152 - It was interesting. 700 00:36:16,176 --> 00:36:19,405 She's around from the beginning of WeWork, 701 00:36:19,429 --> 00:36:21,324 helping in unofficial ways. 702 00:36:21,348 --> 00:36:23,743 I meet my wife, I was 28. 703 00:36:23,767 --> 00:36:26,079 This was 10 years ago, and she looks at me 704 00:36:26,103 --> 00:36:28,456 and she goes, literally within five minutes, 705 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,460 "You have a lot of potential, but right now you're full of shit." 706 00:36:33,819 --> 00:36:36,047 "You have potential, but you're full of shit." 707 00:36:36,071 --> 00:36:38,466 "You, my friend, are full of shit." 708 00:36:38,490 --> 00:36:41,427 "You have a lot of potential, but you're full of shit." 709 00:36:42,995 --> 00:36:44,639 She said, "Find your passion. 710 00:36:44,663 --> 00:36:46,766 "Do something that actually changes the world. 711 00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:48,810 "Bring those two together, I promise you, 712 00:36:48,834 --> 00:36:50,770 you'll have the best business you ever imagined." 713 00:36:50,794 --> 00:36:53,731 I have to say I did all of that and, Rebekah, I just want to say thank you. 714 00:36:53,755 --> 00:36:55,191 - Adam, my love. - I'd be nothing without you. 715 00:36:55,215 --> 00:36:57,009 Well put. - Thank you. 716 00:36:57,467 --> 00:36:59,487 I would go to interview Adam. 717 00:36:59,511 --> 00:37:02,866 Rebekah was there for a lot of the interviews. 718 00:37:02,890 --> 00:37:04,617 Sweetie, can I just say something? 719 00:37:04,641 --> 00:37:07,162 How do I pause this? You don't need this. 720 00:37:07,186 --> 00:37:11,708 - She was, um, grilling me about my intentions with the story. 721 00:37:11,732 --> 00:37:14,210 - Really by putting 400,000 square feet of room... 722 00:37:14,234 --> 00:37:17,130 You're saying WeWork is gonna make the neighborhood cool? 723 00:37:17,154 --> 00:37:19,257 - It's gonna make it work. 724 00:37:19,281 --> 00:37:21,342 It's gonna make the neighborhood, period. 725 00:37:21,366 --> 00:37:25,430 WeWork is gonna make the Lower East Side the new Silicon Valley. 726 00:37:25,454 --> 00:37:28,516 Clearly she had a lot of authority, 727 00:37:28,540 --> 00:37:32,312 but she was not considered at the time a co-founder. 728 00:37:32,336 --> 00:37:35,565 It's pretty clear that Rebekah's trying to sort of shape Adam, 729 00:37:35,589 --> 00:37:39,444 or help him become this world leader type 730 00:37:39,468 --> 00:37:42,346 that, you know, he aspires to be and that she likes. 731 00:37:45,098 --> 00:37:48,620 Working at WeWork, we all felt like, "Oh, wow. 732 00:37:48,644 --> 00:37:52,123 "This is such a special place to be at a special time, 733 00:37:52,147 --> 00:37:55,943 because as it grows, they're gonna need, they're gonna need us." 734 00:38:00,322 --> 00:38:03,092 You're a hard-driving CEO. 735 00:38:03,116 --> 00:38:08,181 We've seen with other hard-driving CEOs and companies with a lot of hours 736 00:38:08,205 --> 00:38:10,725 that, that the culture can crumble. 737 00:38:10,749 --> 00:38:13,603 I was watching a video of yours where 738 00:38:13,627 --> 00:38:15,188 the typical Monday was described 739 00:38:15,212 --> 00:38:18,066 as arriving at 7 a. m. And going home at 3 a. m. 740 00:38:18,090 --> 00:38:20,068 - This Monday, I finished at 2 a. m., not at 3. 741 00:38:20,092 --> 00:38:23,321 It was a good, it was a good Monday. 742 00:38:23,345 --> 00:38:26,908 - I thought I was going to work at WeWork for the rest of my life. 743 00:38:26,932 --> 00:38:29,577 I really thought that this was my lifetime career 744 00:38:29,601 --> 00:38:31,830 and I would just grow with the company. 745 00:38:31,854 --> 00:38:35,416 - If you build an amazing culture, one that people can give you feedback, 746 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,044 one that works hard but also has a great time, 747 00:38:38,068 --> 00:38:40,296 then you will deal with the tough times when they come. 748 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,675 And that's, that's what's really important, and if you do it right... 749 00:38:43,699 --> 00:38:46,219 By the way, working hard is fulfilling. 750 00:38:46,243 --> 00:38:48,471 We would hustle so hard. 751 00:38:48,495 --> 00:38:50,723 And though we would hit the mark, 752 00:38:50,747 --> 00:38:55,186 there was always a way that Adam grew the vision, 753 00:38:55,210 --> 00:38:59,423 so that everyone could see that we could do more, hustle harder, hustle faster. 754 00:39:00,132 --> 00:39:02,735 When somebody tells you they're changing the world 755 00:39:02,759 --> 00:39:06,156 and you are helping them do that, it feels special. 756 00:39:06,180 --> 00:39:08,741 It feels really special. 757 00:39:08,765 --> 00:39:12,036 Everybody was just on it, ready to be a part of this company, 758 00:39:12,060 --> 00:39:15,105 to be part of WeWork, to be a part of the dream. 759 00:39:16,148 --> 00:39:18,692 At that time, we were also being told like... 760 00:39:20,235 --> 00:39:21,915 Adam told me I was gonna be a millionaire. 761 00:39:23,530 --> 00:39:26,885 Most people agreed to salaries less than 762 00:39:26,909 --> 00:39:30,805 they would make at somewhere else in a regular field or whatnot, 763 00:39:30,829 --> 00:39:35,310 because you were given a salary and a certain value of stock options. 764 00:39:35,334 --> 00:39:39,814 - When your business has a mission, and that mission is world changing, 765 00:39:39,838 --> 00:39:43,485 and people can buy into the mission, then they're gonna come in. 766 00:39:43,509 --> 00:39:45,695 Then they need the culture that they're going to enjoy. 767 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,948 To create that culture, you got to put employees first. 768 00:39:48,972 --> 00:39:51,075 We've given every one of our employees equity, 769 00:39:51,099 --> 00:39:54,245 so everyone is a partner in this business, from the porter that cleans 770 00:39:54,269 --> 00:39:55,580 to the community manager, 771 00:39:55,604 --> 00:39:58,458 to the CFO and COO of the company. 772 00:39:58,482 --> 00:39:59,876 Everyone is a partner. 773 00:40:01,860 --> 00:40:04,589 So the idea was, people get super rich off of stock options, right? 774 00:40:04,613 --> 00:40:06,674 You hear about the guy who went to work at Amazon. 775 00:40:06,698 --> 00:40:08,343 He worked in the warehouse. 776 00:40:08,367 --> 00:40:11,429 He was like the 40th person in. He became a multi-gazillionaire. 777 00:40:11,453 --> 00:40:13,431 So that's what was being sold. 778 00:40:13,455 --> 00:40:15,767 But the way the stock options worked 779 00:40:15,791 --> 00:40:18,561 was that's not really like what would happen. 780 00:40:18,585 --> 00:40:21,523 "Equity" was kind of a buzzword. 781 00:40:21,547 --> 00:40:24,234 Adam would talk about it all the time. 782 00:40:24,258 --> 00:40:27,153 "You all have equity in the company." 783 00:40:27,177 --> 00:40:29,197 Which I don't think is quite true. 784 00:40:29,221 --> 00:40:32,534 If you have stock options, you don't actually own equity in the company. 785 00:40:32,558 --> 00:40:36,770 You own a security that gives you an option to buy equity in the company. 786 00:40:37,646 --> 00:40:39,374 I would see that people didn't understand 787 00:40:39,398 --> 00:40:41,626 about that you're taking in what you're getting. 788 00:40:41,650 --> 00:40:43,569 It's so exciting... 789 00:40:44,862 --> 00:40:47,799 to feel like you own something that is so famous 790 00:40:47,823 --> 00:40:50,009 and so talked about. 791 00:40:50,033 --> 00:40:52,262 So that they can say like, "Oh, I have equity." 792 00:40:52,286 --> 00:40:56,432 But if somebody actually did the math, maybe their equity's worth like $2,000. 793 00:40:56,456 --> 00:41:00,979 You might think that the possibility of getting a million-dollar payout 794 00:41:01,003 --> 00:41:04,983 is far higher than it actually is in reality. 795 00:41:07,843 --> 00:41:09,445 There's a lot of room. 796 00:41:09,469 --> 00:41:12,699 You can sit next to the gong. Don't be shy. 797 00:41:12,723 --> 00:41:14,576 WeWork onboarding meetings 798 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,369 were on Monday mornings. 799 00:41:16,393 --> 00:41:19,706 And everybody would come in and then a presentation would begin. 800 00:41:19,730 --> 00:41:22,876 And the presentation was the mythology of WeWork. 801 00:41:27,613 --> 00:41:30,884 Like Adam walking through a kibbutz in Israel. 802 00:41:30,908 --> 00:41:33,595 Like his hands grazing over lavender, 803 00:41:33,619 --> 00:41:36,472 as he thinks to himself with a narration 804 00:41:36,496 --> 00:41:41,895 about community and support and loving one another. 805 00:41:41,919 --> 00:41:45,648 Then we get Miguel like walking through his compound in Oregon. 806 00:41:45,672 --> 00:41:48,276 They didn't do that; that's what they should have done. They should have hired me for that. 807 00:41:48,300 --> 00:41:50,570 But anyway, um, you know, kind of this... 808 00:41:50,594 --> 00:41:53,198 But it's definitely like a couple of slides about WeWork 809 00:41:53,222 --> 00:41:57,535 and then lots of slides about every single person at the C level. 810 00:42:00,145 --> 00:42:02,624 At some point, they changed the organizational structure 811 00:42:02,648 --> 00:42:06,211 to have like mini CEOs in different regions. 812 00:42:06,235 --> 00:42:09,005 And they call them C-We-Os. 813 00:42:09,029 --> 00:42:10,673 So... 814 00:42:10,697 --> 00:42:12,550 I'm not kidding, you know, and I was like, "Look 815 00:42:12,574 --> 00:42:15,053 "I'm not referring to anybody as a C-We-O 816 00:42:15,077 --> 00:42:16,453 for my entire life." 817 00:42:20,791 --> 00:42:23,019 And they made some weird videos. 818 00:42:23,043 --> 00:42:25,230 Everything about the videos 819 00:42:25,254 --> 00:42:27,232 was propaganda. 820 00:42:27,256 --> 00:42:29,108 Everything about it was propaganda. 821 00:42:29,132 --> 00:42:32,821 The tone-deafness and lack of awareness to show these videos, 822 00:42:32,845 --> 00:42:34,447 it was incredible. 823 00:42:34,471 --> 00:42:37,242 Basically, you had the CEO, you had all the C-We-Os, 824 00:42:37,266 --> 00:42:41,120 and you really didn't see any minorities up in the higher echelons. 825 00:42:41,144 --> 00:42:44,666 There wasn't proper diversity at WeWork, period, hard stop. 826 00:42:44,690 --> 00:42:46,084 The C-We-Os are people 827 00:42:46,108 --> 00:42:48,711 who just want to talk about their awesomeness. 828 00:42:48,735 --> 00:42:51,756 They have that very much in common with Adam. 829 00:42:51,780 --> 00:42:54,884 It was almost like you needed to know who was at the top 830 00:42:54,908 --> 00:42:56,952 so when they came past, you could bow down to them. 831 00:42:59,121 --> 00:43:01,224 The events themselves really were meant 832 00:43:01,248 --> 00:43:05,478 to kind of like engender a loyalty to WeWork. 833 00:43:05,502 --> 00:43:09,107 There would be like 50 to 70 people starting every Monday, 834 00:43:09,131 --> 00:43:11,693 and you'd be sitting in your office, and all of a sudden 835 00:43:11,717 --> 00:43:13,637 you hear chanting throughout the entire building. 836 00:43:15,179 --> 00:43:17,490 While we're all trying to do our work. 837 00:43:17,514 --> 00:43:20,702 It's deafening. The music and everybody screaming. 838 00:43:22,686 --> 00:43:26,374 They were willing to spend any amount of money to make themselves feel good 839 00:43:26,398 --> 00:43:28,960 and look good to their employees. 840 00:43:41,496 --> 00:43:46,352 The offices were, to put it mildly, they were cramped. 841 00:43:46,376 --> 00:43:49,564 The mantra we got from on top, and I specifically remember 842 00:43:49,588 --> 00:43:52,442 an all-company meeting where we were kind of told 843 00:43:52,466 --> 00:43:56,154 that we would be quadrupling up, quintupling up, sixing up. 844 00:43:56,178 --> 00:43:58,239 "You don't need the corner office anymore. 845 00:43:58,263 --> 00:44:00,074 "You don't need the house on the hill anymore. 846 00:44:00,098 --> 00:44:03,077 It's all about energy, togetherness, working with your fellow humans." 847 00:44:03,101 --> 00:44:06,247 And then meanwhile, you know, I slide by Adam's office 848 00:44:06,271 --> 00:44:08,524 and he's got a veritable palace in there. 849 00:44:11,568 --> 00:44:13,296 There's a little bit of hypocrisy to all this. 850 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,089 You know, I remember at some old company speech, 851 00:44:15,113 --> 00:44:18,551 it was about, you know, taking some small steps to make sure 852 00:44:18,575 --> 00:44:23,223 that we saved a million dollars on the operating budget every year. 853 00:44:23,247 --> 00:44:27,185 And then Adam just bought a $60 million private jet, right? 854 00:44:27,209 --> 00:44:30,063 So, you know, you hear these and you're kind of wondering like, 855 00:44:30,087 --> 00:44:33,549 what is the message that's being told and how are people really living? 856 00:44:37,803 --> 00:44:40,240 There was definitely a lot of chaos 857 00:44:40,264 --> 00:44:43,892 and lack of organization at WeWork. 858 00:44:44,935 --> 00:44:48,414 Multiple times, I end up doing other people's jobs. 859 00:44:48,438 --> 00:44:50,232 Because they're not working fast enough. 860 00:44:50,732 --> 00:44:52,794 So then eventually my supervisor 861 00:44:52,818 --> 00:44:55,588 writes his password on a Post-It and he hands it to me. 862 00:44:55,612 --> 00:44:57,882 I used his log-in for everything. 863 00:44:57,906 --> 00:45:00,927 I was logging in and out so often 864 00:45:00,951 --> 00:45:04,430 that more than once, I would click on his Gmail icon 865 00:45:04,454 --> 00:45:06,891 and end up opening his email, only to realize it's his email 866 00:45:06,915 --> 00:45:11,062 and then have to log back out of everything and have to log back in. 867 00:45:11,086 --> 00:45:13,773 And, you know, one day 868 00:45:13,797 --> 00:45:15,817 a title of an email caught my eye. 869 00:45:15,841 --> 00:45:19,469 And then sort of the rest, as they say, is history. 870 00:45:19,928 --> 00:45:22,699 So I click on it, of course, 871 00:45:22,723 --> 00:45:25,368 and it's a list of people that he's gonna fire. 872 00:45:25,392 --> 00:45:26,661 And I'm on the list. 873 00:45:26,685 --> 00:45:30,456 But when you read further down in it, 874 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,544 you realize that it's a mandate to cut 7% of their employees. 875 00:45:34,568 --> 00:45:38,548 Because WeWork was just flushing cash down the toilet. 876 00:45:38,572 --> 00:45:43,368 Just hemorrhaging, hemorrhaging money, so we had to cut jobs. 877 00:45:44,119 --> 00:45:45,638 He wrote something like, 878 00:45:45,662 --> 00:45:49,058 "Ha! Bitches, I cut more than 7% of my team," 879 00:45:49,082 --> 00:45:51,144 'cause everybody was supposed to cut 7%. 880 00:45:51,168 --> 00:45:52,794 And I was like, "What?" 881 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,025 After I saw that email, I thought, 882 00:45:57,049 --> 00:45:59,986 well, he gave me his password, and so I went digging 883 00:46:00,010 --> 00:46:01,488 because I thought, okay, 884 00:46:01,512 --> 00:46:03,156 I know we're running out of money. 885 00:46:03,180 --> 00:46:05,265 Now they're laying people off. What's going wrong? 886 00:46:08,852 --> 00:46:13,416 When I go back in, one of the documents that I find, 887 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,710 it was obviously, the information was not meant to be disseminated, 888 00:46:15,734 --> 00:46:17,545 but it showed that 889 00:46:17,569 --> 00:46:21,299 we had to adjust our revenue down 890 00:46:21,323 --> 00:46:24,368 by something like 80%. 891 00:46:25,035 --> 00:46:26,763 I didn't know if they were not gonna tell investors. 892 00:46:26,787 --> 00:46:30,475 They certainly were lying to every time they put out something in the media. 893 00:46:30,499 --> 00:46:32,018 - Are you actually turning a profit in the business? 894 00:46:32,042 --> 00:46:33,645 We are definitely turning a profit. 895 00:46:33,669 --> 00:46:36,606 I'm bored of the businesses that don't turn a profit. I don't believe in them. 896 00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:38,566 I need a cash flow-positive business. 897 00:46:38,590 --> 00:46:41,444 And so I thought, well, I'll just give it 898 00:46:41,468 --> 00:46:43,822 to somebody in the media and then it will go to the right place 899 00:46:43,846 --> 00:46:46,265 and then they will be taken to task for it. 900 00:46:49,184 --> 00:46:51,454 When I went to try to report on this leak, 901 00:46:51,478 --> 00:46:53,498 you know, we get this statement from WeWork 902 00:46:53,522 --> 00:46:57,168 that the person has broken the law and that they're going to pursue this, 903 00:46:57,192 --> 00:47:00,296 and they kind of were trying to come off a bit as a victim 904 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,173 in the leak. 905 00:47:02,197 --> 00:47:05,301 They kind of said, "Okay, well, some buildings have been delayed, 906 00:47:05,325 --> 00:47:08,346 but we can sort of paint the overall narrative that things will still be fine." 907 00:47:08,370 --> 00:47:10,348 And they had these really powerful backers 908 00:47:10,372 --> 00:47:12,934 who have pumped them with money, and so I think at that time 909 00:47:12,958 --> 00:47:15,019 it was hard to say... 910 00:47:15,043 --> 00:47:18,064 are they faking it till they make it a bit and things are gonna work out? 911 00:47:18,088 --> 00:47:20,817 Will they grow up and kind of figure out these problems? 912 00:47:20,841 --> 00:47:22,735 Or is this a runaway train? 913 00:47:22,759 --> 00:47:26,322 And then all that gets kind of tossed out the window 914 00:47:26,346 --> 00:47:29,784 when just a few months later, SoftBank enters the picture. 915 00:47:32,186 --> 00:47:33,997 - How's that? - That's good. 916 00:47:34,021 --> 00:47:36,332 Much better. Yeah. 917 00:47:36,356 --> 00:47:39,127 Okay, you guys have 60 seconds left 918 00:47:39,151 --> 00:47:41,320 'cause I hear the money counting. 919 00:47:44,740 --> 00:47:49,470 - Masayoshi Son is the founder and CEO of SoftBank, 920 00:47:49,494 --> 00:47:52,765 a large holding company based out of Japan. 921 00:47:52,789 --> 00:47:54,851 Known as Masa. 922 00:47:54,875 --> 00:47:58,688 He is one of the richest people in Japan. 923 00:47:58,712 --> 00:48:01,232 In 2017, Masa 924 00:48:01,256 --> 00:48:04,360 raised the largest venture capital fund of all time. 925 00:48:04,384 --> 00:48:05,504 It's called the Vision Fund. 926 00:48:06,136 --> 00:48:09,699 The size of the Vision Fund was unlike anything 927 00:48:09,723 --> 00:48:11,910 anyone had ever seen before. 928 00:48:11,934 --> 00:48:13,953 It was $100 billion. 929 00:48:13,977 --> 00:48:16,831 That essentially equated to several years' worth 930 00:48:16,855 --> 00:48:19,584 of every U. S. venture capital fund. 931 00:48:19,608 --> 00:48:22,337 You put them all together and it's around that size. 932 00:48:22,361 --> 00:48:23,671 So when you told people 933 00:48:23,695 --> 00:48:25,465 you were gonna raise a hundred-billion-dollar fund, 934 00:48:25,489 --> 00:48:27,300 what was the vision that you actually gave them? 935 00:48:27,324 --> 00:48:30,929 - So, one vision, which is singularity. 936 00:48:30,953 --> 00:48:33,640 Singularity is the concept 937 00:48:33,664 --> 00:48:37,936 that in 30 years, computers, artificial intelligence, 938 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,896 they will be smarter than us. 939 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,189 That's my belief. 940 00:48:41,213 --> 00:48:44,400 The singularity has a lot of implications 941 00:48:44,424 --> 00:48:46,945 for how technology will be used by society, 942 00:48:46,969 --> 00:48:50,657 and I think it also represents this massive existential threat 943 00:48:50,681 --> 00:48:55,620 where someday our creations will outstrip us and not need us, 944 00:48:55,644 --> 00:49:00,291 and we will be living lives dictated by machines. 945 00:49:00,315 --> 00:49:02,961 - So we are investing a hundred billion dollars 946 00:49:02,985 --> 00:49:05,463 just on one thing, AI. 947 00:49:05,487 --> 00:49:07,715 The Vision Fund could basically play king, 948 00:49:07,739 --> 00:49:09,926 and Masa was going around looking for markets 949 00:49:09,950 --> 00:49:12,262 that he thought could be really high growth 950 00:49:12,286 --> 00:49:15,890 and companies with a potential to morph into something 951 00:49:15,914 --> 00:49:19,102 to fit his vision of the future of the singularity. 952 00:49:19,126 --> 00:49:23,589 And Adam wanted WeWork to be part of this huge vision. 953 00:49:26,842 --> 00:49:29,737 - Adam Neumann and Masa Son had met many times. 954 00:49:29,761 --> 00:49:33,992 However, Masa had always thought that WeWork was overvalued 955 00:49:34,016 --> 00:49:36,870 and it would be too easy to replicate. 956 00:49:36,894 --> 00:49:38,955 - The sharing economy's the future. 957 00:49:38,979 --> 00:49:42,000 If I treat you the way that I wanna be treated, 958 00:49:42,024 --> 00:49:45,044 then we can actually make a difference and be successful. 959 00:49:45,068 --> 00:49:47,881 But because of Adam Neumann's charisma, 960 00:49:47,905 --> 00:49:50,717 Masa Son arranged to meet with Adam 961 00:49:50,741 --> 00:49:53,702 for this big two-hour tour of headquarters. 962 00:49:56,622 --> 00:49:58,874 Adam has been preparing for this for weeks. 963 00:50:01,126 --> 00:50:04,397 And he's pacing around, pacing around, watching his clock. 964 00:50:06,924 --> 00:50:09,360 Fifteen minutes goes by, no Masa. 965 00:50:11,011 --> 00:50:13,406 Half an hour goes by, no Masa. 966 00:50:15,682 --> 00:50:18,644 A full hour goes by and he's still looking at his clock. 967 00:50:21,230 --> 00:50:23,625 Finally, Masa shows up, and he says, 968 00:50:23,649 --> 00:50:27,611 "Adam, I'm so sorry, I'm late, but we only have 12 minutes." 969 00:50:31,031 --> 00:50:34,868 And they're going through WeWork and he's giving him the super-speed tour. 970 00:50:36,787 --> 00:50:40,391 At exactly 12 minutes, Masa Son looks at his watch 971 00:50:40,415 --> 00:50:43,335 and he says, "Adam, I'm so sorry, but I have to go. 972 00:50:46,296 --> 00:50:51,468 But," Masa said, "if you'd like, you can ride with me to my next meeting." 973 00:50:54,012 --> 00:50:59,536 So Adam grabs his iPad with the whole WeWork SoftBank pitch, 974 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,353 and they jump in the car. 975 00:51:03,647 --> 00:51:06,042 Adam pulls up his WeWork pitch, 976 00:51:06,066 --> 00:51:09,319 and Masa says, "I don't need the pitch deck. Let's just talk." 977 00:51:12,322 --> 00:51:16,201 Masa turns to Adam and he says, "Adam, let me ask you a question. 978 00:51:17,995 --> 00:51:21,039 In a fight, who wins, the smart guy or the crazy guy?" 979 00:51:23,083 --> 00:51:25,770 And Adam says, "The crazy guy." 980 00:51:25,794 --> 00:51:29,524 And he goes, "You're right, but you're not crazy enough. 981 00:51:29,548 --> 00:51:32,068 "You gotta be the crazy one. 982 00:51:32,092 --> 00:51:34,028 "You need to think bigger. 983 00:51:34,052 --> 00:51:36,346 You need to think 10 times bigger." 984 00:51:38,599 --> 00:51:42,829 And Masa begins, you know, doodling his vision for WeWork, 985 00:51:42,853 --> 00:51:45,856 this grand plan to take WeWork global. 986 00:51:48,525 --> 00:51:51,754 So basically Masa Son gave Adam Neumann 987 00:51:51,778 --> 00:51:55,782 a check for $4 billion and said, "Go crazy." 988 00:51:57,743 --> 00:51:59,244 And that changes everything. 989 00:52:01,038 --> 00:52:02,891 The Wall Street Journal is reporting that SoftBank, 990 00:52:02,915 --> 00:52:05,894 the Japanese investment firm, is considering putting 991 00:52:05,918 --> 00:52:08,813 $4 billion in your company. 992 00:52:08,837 --> 00:52:10,023 Is that accurate? 993 00:52:10,047 --> 00:52:12,066 - There is nothing I can say on that topic, 994 00:52:12,090 --> 00:52:13,651 but that sounds like a big number. 995 00:52:13,675 --> 00:52:16,362 That would be nice, wouldn't it? 996 00:52:16,386 --> 00:52:18,990 - Sounds big. 997 00:52:57,594 --> 00:52:59,697 - I don't remember the exact moment 998 00:52:59,721 --> 00:53:03,993 I first heard about the SoftBank investment. 999 00:53:04,017 --> 00:53:06,412 You would hear rumors. 1000 00:53:06,436 --> 00:53:08,289 And to me it just seemed normal, you know. 1001 00:53:08,313 --> 00:53:09,874 They were raising money every year. 1002 00:53:09,898 --> 00:53:12,544 Their growth expectations were really high. 1003 00:53:12,568 --> 00:53:15,296 I didn't think it would be... 1004 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,657 as transformative as it ended up being. 1005 00:53:20,492 --> 00:53:22,846 With the SoftBank money, WeWork is able 1006 00:53:22,870 --> 00:53:26,182 to massively accelerate global expansion plans. 1007 00:53:26,206 --> 00:53:29,519 SoftBank unlocks Asia in a new way. 1008 00:53:29,543 --> 00:53:32,939 You know, this meets Adam's big ambitions. 1009 00:53:32,963 --> 00:53:35,358 I mean, the growth was insane. 1010 00:53:35,382 --> 00:53:38,987 In the two and a half years I was at WeWork, I negotiated more deals 1011 00:53:39,011 --> 00:53:41,739 and spoke to more lawyers than I probably will the rest of my life. 1012 00:53:41,763 --> 00:53:44,993 Typically on a project you wanna make sure it's photography-ready. 1013 00:53:45,017 --> 00:53:48,913 You want it to look perfectly staged. You wanna have a good first impression. 1014 00:53:48,937 --> 00:53:51,207 You go to a WeWork opening "day of," 1015 00:53:51,231 --> 00:53:53,668 they'd still be painting, there'd be ladders everywhere. 1016 00:53:53,692 --> 00:53:54,961 People would be installing lights. 1017 00:53:54,985 --> 00:53:56,796 The AC wouldn't be working. 1018 00:53:56,820 --> 00:53:59,090 Because of the speed of everything, 1019 00:53:59,114 --> 00:54:01,551 nothing was finished when it should have been. 1020 00:54:01,575 --> 00:54:04,888 And the major goal, from what I could tell, was just, 1021 00:54:04,912 --> 00:54:08,099 how many offices could open and how much you could say the offices were filled 1022 00:54:08,123 --> 00:54:09,309 and how many people were in them. 1023 00:54:09,333 --> 00:54:11,394 It's almost like at car dealerships 1024 00:54:11,418 --> 00:54:13,813 in craziness with getting the cars sold at the end of the month. 1025 00:54:13,837 --> 00:54:16,691 You know, sales guy comes to me, it's the last day of the month, 1026 00:54:16,715 --> 00:54:18,902 and, you know, "I really have to do this deal. 1027 00:54:18,926 --> 00:54:22,405 It's 800 desks. It's gonna help us to get to the goal." 1028 00:54:22,429 --> 00:54:24,491 And, you know, I look at the deal and it's like, 1029 00:54:24,515 --> 00:54:26,034 you know, "First eight months free, 1030 00:54:26,058 --> 00:54:28,077 and WeWork's building custom space." 1031 00:54:28,101 --> 00:54:30,371 And the response was, you know, "Get 'em in. 1032 00:54:30,395 --> 00:54:32,040 They love it, they'll grow." 1033 00:54:32,064 --> 00:54:34,542 And, you know, I come to find out 1034 00:54:34,566 --> 00:54:37,170 that the small company that can't afford to pay 1035 00:54:37,194 --> 00:54:41,174 for the 800 seats for eight months is Microsoft. 1036 00:54:41,198 --> 00:54:43,718 They stopped being those savvy deal makers 1037 00:54:43,742 --> 00:54:48,181 and the edge that they might have been bringing to negotiations is gone. 1038 00:54:48,205 --> 00:54:50,725 Plus, of course, everyone talks, and so 1039 00:54:50,749 --> 00:54:54,729 if everyone knows that SoftBank has given these guys a ton of money, 1040 00:54:54,753 --> 00:54:58,274 are you really gonna let them cry "poor" or drive a really hard bargain? 1041 00:54:58,298 --> 00:54:59,818 You're gonna say, "No," you know. 1042 00:54:59,842 --> 00:55:02,529 "You guys have billions of dollars, you know, let us in." 1043 00:55:02,553 --> 00:55:06,115 The ship of state, all the employees, 1044 00:55:06,139 --> 00:55:09,285 all the tenants and the customers, all the partners, 1045 00:55:09,309 --> 00:55:10,745 were leaning on Adam. 1046 00:55:10,769 --> 00:55:13,206 Again, even Miguel, who's co-founder, 1047 00:55:13,230 --> 00:55:16,835 slowly... was shunted aside. 1048 00:55:16,859 --> 00:55:18,503 Adam wanted the spotlight. 1049 00:55:18,527 --> 00:55:21,172 Then he wanted Rebekah to share the spotlight. 1050 00:55:21,196 --> 00:55:25,468 She became a bigger executive at WeWork. 1051 00:55:25,492 --> 00:55:28,096 And it speaks to kind of her power with Adam 1052 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,391 and with the company that, over time, it's kind of like, 1053 00:55:31,415 --> 00:55:33,268 "Oh, now there are three co-founders, 1054 00:55:33,292 --> 00:55:36,479 there's Adam, Miguel, and Rebekah." 1055 00:55:36,503 --> 00:55:40,275 Adam felt that she had pulled him out of whatever spiral that he was in. 1056 00:55:40,299 --> 00:55:42,735 And he gave her a lot of credence for that, 1057 00:55:42,759 --> 00:55:46,114 and he really felt like she was the backbone of their family. 1058 00:55:46,138 --> 00:55:50,118 That doesn't mean she belongs in a corporate environment. 1059 00:55:50,142 --> 00:55:52,996 - She had the sort of like New Age vibe 1060 00:55:53,020 --> 00:55:55,373 and she starts guiding a huge amount of decisions at WeWork 1061 00:55:55,397 --> 00:55:57,333 about the way they spent their money. 1062 00:55:57,357 --> 00:55:59,544 Adam's and Rebekah's spiritual advisor 1063 00:55:59,568 --> 00:56:02,172 would speak to executives on a weekly basis, 1064 00:56:02,196 --> 00:56:06,801 and this constant dose of spiritualism was due to Rebekah. 1065 00:56:06,825 --> 00:56:09,053 Hello, New York. 1066 00:56:09,077 --> 00:56:10,138 Hello, WeWork. 1067 00:56:10,162 --> 00:56:12,724 Hello, global citizens of this Earth. 1068 00:56:12,748 --> 00:56:15,852 You know what a global citizen of this Earth is? 1069 00:56:15,876 --> 00:56:17,645 It's a member of the We generation, 1070 00:56:17,669 --> 00:56:20,231 and a member of the We generation does not discriminate 1071 00:56:20,255 --> 00:56:23,860 with age, race, gender, or religion. 1072 00:56:23,884 --> 00:56:27,113 If you're a member of the We generation, make some noise! 1073 00:56:29,681 --> 00:56:31,826 - WeWork is also expanding 1074 00:56:31,850 --> 00:56:35,747 its kind of diverse and sometimes confusing portfolio. 1075 00:56:35,771 --> 00:56:38,791 It makes a bunch of acquisitions of other startups. 1076 00:56:38,815 --> 00:56:40,752 We had this idea of, 1077 00:56:40,776 --> 00:56:43,087 why don't we just invest money in companies that make impact? 1078 00:56:43,111 --> 00:56:45,507 All the employees will wanna work for them, 1079 00:56:45,531 --> 00:56:49,093 everybody wanna be part of it, and it's just gonna work out in an amazing way. 1080 00:56:49,117 --> 00:56:51,262 And I looked at our team and everybody looked at each other. 1081 00:56:51,286 --> 00:56:52,889 They said, "Of course, Adam, 1082 00:56:52,913 --> 00:56:54,891 that makes a lot of sense, but who's gonna pay for that?" 1083 00:56:54,915 --> 00:56:56,601 And we said, "Well... 1084 00:56:56,625 --> 00:56:58,102 Masa might..." No. 1085 00:56:58,126 --> 00:56:59,604 We said, "Well..." 1086 00:56:59,628 --> 00:57:01,064 That was a private joke. 1087 00:57:01,088 --> 00:57:03,733 - I went back to meet with Adam 1088 00:57:03,757 --> 00:57:06,486 at sort of the new-and-improved headquarters. 1089 00:57:06,510 --> 00:57:08,988 I get sort of the quick version of the tour 1090 00:57:09,012 --> 00:57:11,699 and now WeWork has its own barista. 1091 00:57:11,723 --> 00:57:14,994 So I say, "Okay, I want a cappuccino," 1092 00:57:15,018 --> 00:57:17,247 and Adam orders a latte. 1093 00:57:17,271 --> 00:57:20,250 And I reach for my coffee, 1094 00:57:20,274 --> 00:57:22,919 and Adam's like, "Oh, no, no, that's mine." 1095 00:57:22,943 --> 00:57:25,755 And I was like, "No... Hold on, you know. 1096 00:57:25,779 --> 00:57:28,800 I got the cappuccino. Like that's a cappuccino." 1097 00:57:28,824 --> 00:57:32,595 And Adam just looks really confused and upset. 1098 00:57:32,619 --> 00:57:36,432 And one of the staff is like, "Oh, I'm sorry. 1099 00:57:36,456 --> 00:57:39,936 We actually call those lattes and those cappuccinos here," 1100 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:41,855 pointing at the opposite one. 1101 00:57:41,879 --> 00:57:45,984 It stood out to me as just like a strange, gratuitous 1102 00:57:46,008 --> 00:57:50,989 reality-distortion moment around Adam because he was ordering lattes 1103 00:57:51,013 --> 00:57:52,991 but wants cappuccinos. 1104 00:57:53,015 --> 00:57:55,535 And rather than try to explain to him that he's wrong, 1105 00:57:55,559 --> 00:57:57,603 they're just gonna change the meaning of that word. 1106 00:57:59,521 --> 00:58:00,915 The money got insane. 1107 00:58:00,939 --> 00:58:03,585 And they shifted from this little idea... 1108 00:58:03,609 --> 00:58:06,629 Then it was, "Okay, we're now going to tell you how to live, WeLive. 1109 00:58:06,653 --> 00:58:08,673 And now we're gonna redefine how you live." 1110 00:58:08,697 --> 00:58:10,884 And that wasn't good enough. "WeGrow. 1111 00:58:10,908 --> 00:58:12,343 We're gonna educate your kids better." 1112 00:58:12,367 --> 00:58:14,262 - When my eldest daughter was in kindergarten, 1113 00:58:14,286 --> 00:58:16,181 as we started to look around for schools 1114 00:58:16,205 --> 00:58:18,725 in both New York and the west coast, 1115 00:58:18,749 --> 00:58:23,438 I wasn't finding a place that was gonna nurture her spirit and her soul 1116 00:58:23,462 --> 00:58:25,398 as much as her mind. 1117 00:58:25,422 --> 00:58:27,108 You know, at some point 1118 00:58:27,132 --> 00:58:29,652 Rebekah was talking to the company about WeGrow, 1119 00:58:29,676 --> 00:58:32,739 and she's talking in front of a cross-section of 700 employees, 1120 00:58:32,763 --> 00:58:34,574 and is basically saying that, 1121 00:58:34,598 --> 00:58:37,535 New York City private schools aren't good enough for our children. 1122 00:58:37,559 --> 00:58:41,498 And then meanwhile, you're gonna start a school that has 1123 00:58:41,522 --> 00:58:46,544 like a 35, 40 grand tuition fee per elementary school kid. 1124 00:58:46,568 --> 00:58:49,047 That school is exclusionary to a lot of people, right? 1125 00:58:49,071 --> 00:58:54,844 That's just a prototypical person who's grown up in certain circles 1126 00:58:54,868 --> 00:58:57,514 and doesn't realize there's other people in the world. 1127 00:58:57,538 --> 00:59:01,768 The idea that you're gonna reinvent work 1128 00:59:01,792 --> 00:59:04,562 is incredibly audacious unto itself. 1129 00:59:04,586 --> 00:59:08,233 To say, "While we're doing that, we're also gonna reinvent education..." 1130 00:59:08,257 --> 00:59:11,069 which people have been trying to do for centuries, 1131 00:59:11,093 --> 00:59:14,989 that's the kind of decision tree that you see in a company 1132 00:59:15,013 --> 00:59:18,368 where you start to believe your own BS. 1133 00:59:18,392 --> 00:59:21,037 All right, welcome, everyone, to The School of Greatness podcast. 1134 00:59:21,061 --> 00:59:23,206 We've got Rebekah Neumann in the house. 1135 00:59:23,230 --> 00:59:25,542 - Thanks for having me. - Yeah, this is fun. 1136 00:59:25,566 --> 00:59:28,837 What is the mission of WeGrow, just so I understand clearly? 1137 00:59:28,861 --> 00:59:32,131 - The mission of WeGrow, and quite honestly the collective "we" 1138 00:59:32,155 --> 00:59:33,341 that we're all living under, 1139 00:59:33,365 --> 00:59:35,260 is to elevate the world's consciousness. 1140 00:59:35,284 --> 00:59:38,513 - Hmm. - At WeGrow, specifically, 1141 00:59:38,537 --> 00:59:41,057 through unleashing every human's superpowers 1142 00:59:41,081 --> 00:59:43,393 and expanding happiness. 1143 00:59:43,417 --> 00:59:44,978 - Okay, and it's... 1144 00:59:45,002 --> 00:59:47,021 And WeGrow is starting as a school? - Yes. 1145 00:59:47,045 --> 00:59:50,066 - But it's going to be evolving into much more, I'm assuming, right? 1146 00:59:50,090 --> 00:59:52,485 - It's kind of a practice and a new approach to life. 1147 00:59:52,509 --> 00:59:55,321 We have started with children, but we're... 1148 00:59:55,345 --> 00:59:58,283 as soon as next week starting to pilot some of the curriculum 1149 00:59:58,307 --> 01:00:00,285 on our WeGrownups. 1150 01:00:00,309 --> 01:00:01,911 - Really? - Uh-huh. 1151 01:00:01,935 --> 01:00:03,580 - Is that what you call us? - Just for the moment. 1152 01:00:03,604 --> 01:00:05,105 - For fun, yeah. - Yeah, why not? 1153 01:00:08,483 --> 01:00:10,211 I was working in WeWork 1154 01:00:10,235 --> 01:00:13,173 and living in WeLive. 1155 01:00:13,197 --> 01:00:16,509 My entire life... 1156 01:00:16,533 --> 01:00:19,929 was being propped up by the We community. 1157 01:00:19,953 --> 01:00:24,017 Every time a friend outside of the We community would come over, 1158 01:00:24,041 --> 01:00:26,603 they would only come over that one time. 1159 01:00:26,627 --> 01:00:30,756 Because they would walk out with this strange impression of what it is. 1160 01:00:33,300 --> 01:00:37,197 And pretty quickly I had 1161 01:00:37,221 --> 01:00:40,682 alienated most of my friends outside of the building. 1162 01:00:42,226 --> 01:00:44,329 - When Adam had an investor coming through, 1163 01:00:44,353 --> 01:00:46,706 we would know ahead of time or 10 minutes before, 1164 01:00:46,730 --> 01:00:48,917 and we were being told, "Go into the space. 1165 01:00:48,941 --> 01:00:51,127 Just hang out, be casual. Bring your laptop." 1166 01:00:51,151 --> 01:00:53,505 And we would go there and activate the space. 1167 01:00:53,529 --> 01:00:55,882 They were like, "Everybody should come," 1168 01:00:55,906 --> 01:00:58,968 just so there's pockets of folks that are 1169 01:00:58,992 --> 01:01:03,056 living the WeLive life so Adam can come and sort of show it off. 1170 01:01:07,709 --> 01:01:10,438 And they'd put on "Juicy" by Biggie Smalls, 1171 01:01:10,462 --> 01:01:12,982 and they'd be playing a loop over and over again, 1172 01:01:13,006 --> 01:01:15,735 waiting for that one moment when the investor came 1173 01:01:15,759 --> 01:01:18,363 so that when they walked the space, we were there 1174 01:01:18,387 --> 01:01:20,657 just to fill it up and make it look good. 1175 01:01:20,681 --> 01:01:22,951 Adam showed up with this investor 1176 01:01:22,975 --> 01:01:26,996 and with every drink, he had another vision of what WeWork could be, 1177 01:01:27,020 --> 01:01:31,251 like the We community could be, what it was growing into. 1178 01:01:31,275 --> 01:01:32,961 And... 1179 01:01:32,985 --> 01:01:37,465 at a certain point, you're like, "Dude, just shut the fuck up, man. 1180 01:01:37,489 --> 01:01:39,425 "Like, we are just having a good time. 1181 01:01:39,449 --> 01:01:41,803 "Can we just... can we just hang out 1182 01:01:41,827 --> 01:01:45,515 and have this drink and just talk about anything else?" 1183 01:01:45,539 --> 01:01:48,476 It got really draining and really exhausting, 1184 01:01:48,500 --> 01:01:51,563 to constantly... 1185 01:01:51,587 --> 01:01:54,506 be a part of... this... 1186 01:01:55,924 --> 01:01:57,092 thing. 1187 01:01:58,260 --> 01:02:00,905 The initial clients of WeWork 1188 01:02:00,929 --> 01:02:03,366 thought that they were members. 1189 01:02:03,390 --> 01:02:05,451 But they were actually a resource 1190 01:02:05,475 --> 01:02:09,539 from which WeWork could extract a reputation 1191 01:02:09,563 --> 01:02:12,917 and then they could sort of slingshot that reputation 1192 01:02:12,941 --> 01:02:15,461 to get big corporations to think, 1193 01:02:15,485 --> 01:02:18,715 "We need to ask WeWork 1194 01:02:18,739 --> 01:02:21,885 "how to attract the best and brightest 1195 01:02:21,909 --> 01:02:24,536 of this up-and-coming generation." 1196 01:02:25,996 --> 01:02:29,225 I eventually, I was promoted to operations manager, 1197 01:02:29,249 --> 01:02:32,937 and so I was getting a little more distant from Adam. 1198 01:02:32,961 --> 01:02:37,484 His excitement isn't so close to me that I... 1199 01:02:37,508 --> 01:02:41,321 am breathing it in and, like, intoxicated by it. 1200 01:02:41,345 --> 01:02:47,035 And I'm able to start seeing more clearly that he was manipulative. 1201 01:02:47,059 --> 01:02:50,079 He had ways of using psychology 1202 01:02:50,103 --> 01:02:54,042 to maneuver through people's flaws 1203 01:02:54,066 --> 01:02:56,485 and to use that to his benefit. 1204 01:02:57,903 --> 01:02:59,964 Adam was giving me a review. 1205 01:02:59,988 --> 01:03:02,467 We were in one of the glass conference rooms. 1206 01:03:02,491 --> 01:03:05,929 He was telling me I was doing a great job. 1207 01:03:05,953 --> 01:03:08,932 And then another employee walked by 1208 01:03:08,956 --> 01:03:13,102 who was very peppy and very pretty, 1209 01:03:13,126 --> 01:03:16,064 and he said, "But you're not her." 1210 01:03:16,088 --> 01:03:18,483 And he pointed out her and said, "You could be, 1211 01:03:18,507 --> 01:03:21,009 but you don't have the confidence that she has." 1212 01:03:22,761 --> 01:03:25,490 I went home and thought, "What do I need to do 1213 01:03:25,514 --> 01:03:27,975 to become a better employee here and become like her?" 1214 01:03:30,185 --> 01:03:35,416 You're constantly in this fear of, "somebody else is gonna take my job. 1215 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,377 I have to fight to stay here." 1216 01:03:37,401 --> 01:03:40,612 Like, I felt constantly like I couldn't just breathe. 1217 01:03:42,322 --> 01:03:46,952 Adam would state, "I could fire all of you and do this by myself." 1218 01:03:48,078 --> 01:03:53,250 That's a bold statement to say to people who are working their ass off for you. 1219 01:03:55,919 --> 01:03:57,230 - Good morning. - Shalom. 1220 01:03:57,254 --> 01:03:58,898 - Shalom. Um... 1221 01:03:58,922 --> 01:04:00,400 I'm sure that there are lots of people here 1222 01:04:00,424 --> 01:04:02,819 who know what WeWork is, who maybe have worked 1223 01:04:02,843 --> 01:04:05,780 in one or several WeWorks... 1224 01:04:05,804 --> 01:04:10,160 So I met Adam in Washington, D.C. for an event. 1225 01:04:10,184 --> 01:04:12,495 My friends who worked at WeWork told me about him. 1226 01:04:12,519 --> 01:04:16,416 And they just said this was 1227 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,835 one of the most charismatic... 1228 01:04:18,859 --> 01:04:20,879 one of the most visionary 1229 01:04:20,903 --> 01:04:24,674 and ingenious leaders 1230 01:04:24,698 --> 01:04:27,594 of any tech company in the world. 1231 01:04:27,618 --> 01:04:30,805 He just sounded like a mythical figure. 1232 01:04:30,829 --> 01:04:33,391 And I was just really curious, like, 1233 01:04:33,415 --> 01:04:38,188 what does he understand about leasing real estate and subdividing it? 1234 01:04:38,212 --> 01:04:39,564 Like, we're talking about 1235 01:04:39,588 --> 01:04:43,318 one of the most boring business models in the world, 1236 01:04:43,342 --> 01:04:45,236 and I was really curious to know what was behind it. 1237 01:04:45,260 --> 01:04:47,822 It's fascinating to me about WeWork because 1238 01:04:47,846 --> 01:04:49,365 lots of people here who have been there, 1239 01:04:49,389 --> 01:04:52,202 they've seen how lovely the interior decoration is. 1240 01:04:52,226 --> 01:04:56,039 But there are lots of companies that make beautiful spaces. 1241 01:04:56,063 --> 01:04:59,334 Um, but they're not worth $20 billion, 1242 01:04:59,358 --> 01:05:01,878 which is WeWork's most recent valuation. 1243 01:05:01,902 --> 01:05:05,882 So I wonder what do you consider to be your special sauce? 1244 01:05:05,906 --> 01:05:08,468 - So, first of all, excellent question. 1245 01:05:08,492 --> 01:05:12,263 From the first day that we started WeWork, it was about bringing people together. 1246 01:05:12,287 --> 01:05:14,724 As our mission, and our mission always... 1247 01:05:14,748 --> 01:05:17,310 - And his answer was everything that we've heard in the last few years, 1248 01:05:17,334 --> 01:05:19,312 it's that they were doing something special with the culture, 1249 01:05:19,336 --> 01:05:22,941 that their special sauce couldn't be found in earnings 1250 01:05:22,965 --> 01:05:24,859 or cash flow or revenue. 1251 01:05:24,883 --> 01:05:27,487 It was a... a spirit of We 1252 01:05:27,511 --> 01:05:29,572 that was the truly distinguishing part of this company. 1253 01:05:29,596 --> 01:05:31,741 - And the one thing, you say, "Are you a co-working space?" 1254 01:05:31,765 --> 01:05:34,911 We're as much a co-working space as Amazon is a book-selling store. 1255 01:05:34,935 --> 01:05:37,539 Anybody who thought that Amazon was there just to sell books 1256 01:05:37,563 --> 01:05:40,375 just didn't understand the vision, and you just need to look now and see 1257 01:05:40,399 --> 01:05:42,001 how much greater the vision is. 1258 01:05:42,025 --> 01:05:44,963 You know, I wish I'd pressed him harder on it. 1259 01:05:44,987 --> 01:05:46,756 But I didn't because 1260 01:05:46,780 --> 01:05:50,593 I had no idea what the company actually was. 1261 01:05:50,617 --> 01:05:52,762 And I think in the case of Adam Neumann, 1262 01:05:52,786 --> 01:05:57,517 there were a lot of people who were impressed by his live charisma, 1263 01:05:57,541 --> 01:06:02,230 who privately harbored doubts about exactly how all of this worked. 1264 01:06:02,254 --> 01:06:04,983 I was one of them, I suppose, you know? 1265 01:06:05,007 --> 01:06:06,901 I didn't say in that interview, 1266 01:06:06,925 --> 01:06:10,530 "I think that this company is just, you know, a lot of smoke and mirrors." 1267 01:06:10,554 --> 01:06:12,157 I didn't, I didn't know for sure. 1268 01:06:12,181 --> 01:06:15,160 I just privately harbored this doubt that said that 1269 01:06:15,184 --> 01:06:17,328 this was all kind of a magic show. 1270 01:06:17,352 --> 01:06:19,914 - So our first mission was, create the world where people make a life. 1271 01:06:19,938 --> 01:06:23,376 That was for WeWork. WeLive is helping you live and not just exist. 1272 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,211 And now we have a WeOS, 1273 01:06:25,235 --> 01:06:27,755 which is our operating system for physical spaces. 1274 01:06:27,779 --> 01:06:30,675 And it's growing very fast and it's everything from your entry system 1275 01:06:30,699 --> 01:06:33,178 when you enter the building, but then how do you book a conference room 1276 01:06:33,202 --> 01:06:35,680 and how do you attend an event and who's signed in the building...? 1277 01:06:35,704 --> 01:06:39,893 Real estate usually is a very dependable, predictable business. 1278 01:06:39,917 --> 01:06:41,936 It doesn't grow that much, but it's steady. 1279 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,730 You can kind of map out these returns. 1280 01:06:43,754 --> 01:06:48,193 But WeWork was growing so fast that it was being valued 1281 01:06:48,217 --> 01:06:52,405 by investors as an ultrafast growth, 1282 01:06:52,429 --> 01:06:54,699 low-overhead technology company. 1283 01:06:54,723 --> 01:06:59,245 They created this sort of Facebook-type platform for members 1284 01:06:59,269 --> 01:07:02,540 where you could get people connected through technology. 1285 01:07:02,564 --> 01:07:05,710 WeWork has what's like its internal LinkedIn, I call it, right? 1286 01:07:05,734 --> 01:07:07,378 It's called the WeWork Member Network. 1287 01:07:07,402 --> 01:07:09,088 You know, you have your profile page. 1288 01:07:09,112 --> 01:07:11,007 - Adam was often saying, 1289 01:07:11,031 --> 01:07:13,551 "Oh, and people are posting job opportunities 1290 01:07:13,575 --> 01:07:16,137 and connecting with each other on the platform." 1291 01:07:16,161 --> 01:07:19,641 They had acquired a bunch of interesting technologies 1292 01:07:19,665 --> 01:07:22,268 and were stitching together what might have been by far 1293 01:07:22,292 --> 01:07:25,939 the most comprehensive tool for how people work. 1294 01:07:25,963 --> 01:07:29,234 We use beacon technology but a lot of other aspects. 1295 01:07:29,258 --> 01:07:32,111 We're using our video cameras to actually see where interactions are happening. 1296 01:07:32,135 --> 01:07:36,157 And our entire process is built to make our members more successful. 1297 01:07:36,181 --> 01:07:38,368 The cynical read, of course, is, 1298 01:07:38,392 --> 01:07:42,705 well, those intentions are all great, but what you still do is office space 1299 01:07:42,729 --> 01:07:44,833 and you are a real estate company. 1300 01:07:44,857 --> 01:07:48,628 But I think that, you know, when companies are private, 1301 01:07:48,652 --> 01:07:51,530 it's hard for us to know what's happening behind the scenes. 1302 01:07:54,658 --> 01:07:57,720 - My business is called Thinknum Alternative Data. 1303 01:07:57,744 --> 01:08:02,767 And we index and crawl public information from the Web. 1304 01:08:02,791 --> 01:08:07,856 Our bots just happened to add WeWork into our list of companies, 1305 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:12,819 and then our bots found something astonishing about WeWork. 1306 01:08:12,843 --> 01:08:17,824 WeWork painted themselves as this company that was growing extremely fast, 1307 01:08:17,848 --> 01:08:22,120 and once people joined they don't really leave. 1308 01:08:22,144 --> 01:08:25,456 But using data on the public Web, 1309 01:08:25,480 --> 01:08:27,834 we actually plotted the churn rate, 1310 01:08:27,858 --> 01:08:31,421 which is how many people join and then leave. 1311 01:08:31,445 --> 01:08:34,799 And we did see that the churn rate had increased 1312 01:08:34,823 --> 01:08:36,926 and this was accelerating. 1313 01:08:36,950 --> 01:08:39,470 The other trend we found was 1314 01:08:39,494 --> 01:08:42,414 no one ever used their internal social network. 1315 01:08:43,498 --> 01:08:46,436 When you call yourselves a technology company, 1316 01:08:46,460 --> 01:08:50,857 and when you actually build a social network to help further paint that picture, 1317 01:08:50,881 --> 01:08:54,527 if no one uses it, then you're not a technology company. 1318 01:08:56,053 --> 01:08:58,656 Our next instinct was, let's write a blog post 1319 01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:00,450 and, you know, just share our findings. 1320 01:09:00,474 --> 01:09:02,619 It really started taking off there. 1321 01:09:02,643 --> 01:09:07,290 Then, about three hours later, WeWork sent us an email 1322 01:09:07,314 --> 01:09:11,169 asking if we could take down the blog post. 1323 01:09:11,193 --> 01:09:14,380 Our first instinct was to just ignore it. 1324 01:09:14,404 --> 01:09:20,011 And then the community manager stopped by to our office. 1325 01:09:20,035 --> 01:09:21,763 And she says, 1326 01:09:21,787 --> 01:09:25,850 "You've violated our membership happiness clause," 1327 01:09:25,874 --> 01:09:29,813 and the kicker was, she said, "You have 30 minutes to leave." 1328 01:09:29,837 --> 01:09:34,025 In the wake of our blog post and publication, 1329 01:09:34,049 --> 01:09:36,260 WeWork kept raising more money. 1330 01:09:40,472 --> 01:09:44,494 I first read about WeWork when they raised money on SoftBank, 1331 01:09:44,518 --> 01:09:47,372 at a $20 billion valuation. 1332 01:09:47,396 --> 01:09:50,583 And at that point they had about 200 locations. 1333 01:09:50,607 --> 01:09:53,086 I went through and looked at the buildings 1334 01:09:53,110 --> 01:09:55,380 that they actually had their facilities in. 1335 01:09:55,404 --> 01:09:58,258 And I determined at that valuation 1336 01:09:58,282 --> 01:10:01,803 that the 200 buildings were each worth less 1337 01:10:01,827 --> 01:10:05,122 than that WeWork office was being valued at. 1338 01:10:06,748 --> 01:10:10,836 And I said that WeWork was the most overvalued private company in the world. 1339 01:10:12,921 --> 01:10:18,236 Adam Neumann told us repeatedly that WeWork was profitable. 1340 01:10:18,260 --> 01:10:20,405 We've since found out 1341 01:10:20,429 --> 01:10:24,409 that how Neumann and WeWork were considering themselves profitable 1342 01:10:24,433 --> 01:10:26,685 was a stretch at best. 1343 01:10:27,436 --> 01:10:29,038 Are you profitable? 1344 01:10:29,062 --> 01:10:31,040 So we are... as per choice. 1345 01:10:31,064 --> 01:10:33,960 Because when you have a 40% business, when you have a margin, 1346 01:10:33,984 --> 01:10:36,671 you can actually choose when to be profitable. Right. 1347 01:10:36,695 --> 01:10:40,425 - We like to hover around an EBITDA, a break even, 1348 01:10:40,449 --> 01:10:42,844 and then we can choose when we wanna move, where we wanna move. 1349 01:10:42,868 --> 01:10:45,555 Right now we're in a very high-growth stage of our business, 1350 01:10:45,579 --> 01:10:49,058 and we don't see that stopping anytime soon. 1351 01:10:49,082 --> 01:10:50,393 - So EBITDA... 1352 01:10:50,417 --> 01:10:53,104 Earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortization... 1353 01:10:53,128 --> 01:10:57,901 Is sort of this accepted metric for how profitable a company might be. 1354 01:10:57,925 --> 01:11:01,488 But WeWork started inventing their own financial metrics 1355 01:11:01,512 --> 01:11:04,324 to enter into this consensual hallucination, 1356 01:11:04,348 --> 01:11:08,203 and they used this term "community adjusted EBITDA." 1357 01:11:08,227 --> 01:11:09,913 Basically it was an attempt to say, 1358 01:11:09,937 --> 01:11:14,334 "we want to pretend to be profitable by ignoring these expenses." 1359 01:11:14,358 --> 01:11:16,419 They adjusted for things 1360 01:11:16,443 --> 01:11:20,298 that were ridiculous to strip out and say you're profitable. 1361 01:11:20,322 --> 01:11:23,718 So suddenly they went from a loss-making company 1362 01:11:23,742 --> 01:11:25,929 to a profitable company, 1363 01:11:25,953 --> 01:11:30,058 just by financial engineering and gimmickry. 1364 01:11:30,082 --> 01:11:34,854 Every year WeWork would project profits, 1365 01:11:34,878 --> 01:11:37,232 would fail to make any profits 1366 01:11:37,256 --> 01:11:40,652 and actually their losses would get larger and larger. 1367 01:11:40,676 --> 01:11:46,241 Yet investors in the private markets kept on bidding up the price of WeWork. 1368 01:11:46,265 --> 01:11:48,368 It kept on getting higher and higher and higher. 1369 01:11:48,392 --> 01:11:51,538 It's sort of mind-boggling that that happened. 1370 01:11:51,562 --> 01:11:55,708 And I mean that more than anything else speaks to the gifts of Adam Neumann. 1371 01:11:55,732 --> 01:11:59,629 - It is my honor and pleasure to introduce to you right now 1372 01:11:59,653 --> 01:12:02,215 our co-founders, Miguel McKelvey and Adam Neumann. 1373 01:12:02,239 --> 01:12:04,157 Help me welcome them to the stage! 1374 01:12:07,494 --> 01:12:08,912 - Shalom! 1375 01:12:10,914 --> 01:12:13,542 I was proud to see the events continue to grow. 1376 01:12:15,294 --> 01:12:17,605 But I saw the change in Adam. 1377 01:12:17,629 --> 01:12:20,007 I think it was money blindness. 1378 01:12:20,841 --> 01:12:24,737 There's so much money behind us that nothing can happen, right? 1379 01:12:24,761 --> 01:12:27,157 We'd become untouchable, in a sense. 1380 01:12:28,765 --> 01:12:31,244 It started to feel like it was more just about the business 1381 01:12:31,268 --> 01:12:36,523 and not about this community that I grew to love over those many years. 1382 01:12:37,316 --> 01:12:41,320 I think that's where I started to lose my creative juices for the company. 1383 01:12:42,321 --> 01:12:45,008 After my first summer camp, 1384 01:12:45,032 --> 01:12:46,968 I tried to get out of entering the second year. 1385 01:12:46,992 --> 01:12:51,347 I sat down with one of the executives and explained to her that, 1386 01:12:51,371 --> 01:12:53,600 "Last year I went, I didn't enjoy myself. 1387 01:12:53,624 --> 01:12:57,562 It's not for everybody, and please don't make me go again." 1388 01:12:57,586 --> 01:13:01,024 And she kindly said, "I see your point, 1389 01:13:01,048 --> 01:13:05,570 but it's a mandatory event, as most company outings are." 1390 01:13:05,594 --> 01:13:09,741 - The "We" is, I think, the really big thing in 1391 01:13:09,765 --> 01:13:11,910 the mission of what we're doing. 1392 01:13:11,934 --> 01:13:15,872 So let's just close our eyes for one second. 1393 01:13:15,896 --> 01:13:18,958 Close eyes, hold hands. 1394 01:13:18,982 --> 01:13:22,253 The way these events worked was that you would go 1395 01:13:22,277 --> 01:13:24,923 hear presentations for like almost eight hours a day 1396 01:13:24,947 --> 01:13:26,823 for maybe two or three days. 1397 01:13:27,741 --> 01:13:32,180 And to make sure that people were actually attending... 1398 01:13:32,204 --> 01:13:34,098 we had tracking bracelets on. 1399 01:13:34,122 --> 01:13:37,352 Just think about a reality in which 1400 01:13:37,376 --> 01:13:41,523 the energy that we're feeling right now with one another 1401 01:13:41,547 --> 01:13:45,944 is an energy of unity, an energy where I am you and you are me 1402 01:13:45,968 --> 01:13:48,154 and we all are we. 1403 01:13:48,178 --> 01:13:50,281 They would address the crowd, 1404 01:13:50,305 --> 01:13:54,369 uh, talking about whatever word of the day that was... 1405 01:13:54,393 --> 01:13:56,120 like "authenticity." 1406 01:13:56,144 --> 01:13:58,164 And as we're sitting in the mud, I'm thinking, 1407 01:13:58,188 --> 01:14:01,459 "Well, you forced me to come to this summer camp and sit in the mud. 1408 01:14:01,483 --> 01:14:03,962 Nothing about this to me seems authentic." 1409 01:14:03,986 --> 01:14:06,339 If we do the work right and we find a way 1410 01:14:06,363 --> 01:14:09,509 to become a real family in this community and company, 1411 01:14:09,533 --> 01:14:11,386 we could wake up one day and say, 1412 01:14:11,410 --> 01:14:14,472 "We want to solve the problem of children without parents in this world." 1413 01:14:14,496 --> 01:14:17,308 We can win... and do it. And children who are in abusive situations. 1414 01:14:17,332 --> 01:14:19,144 And then children in abusive situations. 1415 01:14:19,168 --> 01:14:21,563 And from that we can go to world hunger, 1416 01:14:21,587 --> 01:14:24,399 and there's so many topics that we could take one by one, 1417 01:14:24,423 --> 01:14:28,635 and we will be able to tackle anything that we set our minds to. 1418 01:14:30,512 --> 01:14:32,740 He would talk about being president of the world. 1419 01:14:32,764 --> 01:14:35,118 He would say things like that and people would say, 1420 01:14:35,142 --> 01:14:36,744 "Eh, is he serious?" 1421 01:14:36,768 --> 01:14:39,080 It seemed really wild and crazy, 1422 01:14:39,104 --> 01:14:43,775 but it was hard to make sense of what made sense in unicorn land. 1423 01:14:45,861 --> 01:14:49,799 I wanted to talk a little bit about the past and where we came from. 1424 01:14:49,823 --> 01:14:52,010 We're not here by mistake. 1425 01:14:52,034 --> 01:14:55,054 This was thought about and planned 10 years ago. 1426 01:14:55,078 --> 01:14:57,765 And the funniest thing about it, from the day we moved to Brooklyn, 1427 01:14:57,789 --> 01:15:00,852 Miguel and I were meeting regularly, just like that picture, 1428 01:15:00,876 --> 01:15:02,812 planning for the future. 1429 01:15:02,836 --> 01:15:05,172 We knew that... 1430 01:15:06,048 --> 01:15:08,526 whatever it is we're looking for 1431 01:15:08,550 --> 01:15:10,612 must be greater than ourselves. 1432 01:15:10,636 --> 01:15:15,307 Moving forward the "We" company. 1433 01:15:17,601 --> 01:15:20,455 SoftBank had bet on Adam as an entrepreneur. 1434 01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,666 They knew that the valuation was high. 1435 01:15:23,690 --> 01:15:26,544 But they thought that, you know, a winner-take-all in this market, 1436 01:15:26,568 --> 01:15:28,505 like they had seen in other markets, 1437 01:15:28,529 --> 01:15:31,466 would be so big that they could, you know, tolerate 1438 01:15:31,490 --> 01:15:33,051 that, that valuation. 1439 01:15:33,075 --> 01:15:36,930 But when there's sort of a critical mass of doubt 1440 01:15:36,954 --> 01:15:39,265 coming back to SoftBank, 1441 01:15:39,289 --> 01:15:41,601 what are the sovereign wealth funds, 1442 01:15:41,625 --> 01:15:44,437 who are the biggest investors in SoftBank's Vision Fund, 1443 01:15:44,461 --> 01:15:45,671 what are they saying? 1444 01:15:47,589 --> 01:15:49,776 When you're raising $100 billion, 1445 01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:51,861 you're going to the biggest deep-pocket sources, 1446 01:15:51,885 --> 01:15:54,155 so, of course, where does Masa go 1447 01:15:54,179 --> 01:15:57,075 but he goes to the kingdom of Saudi Arabia 1448 01:15:57,099 --> 01:15:59,661 and they became his biggest backers. 1449 01:15:59,685 --> 01:16:04,624 - The Saudis put dumb money into Masa Son's Vision Fund, 1450 01:16:04,648 --> 01:16:07,460 because he says, "I'll get you in on the ground floor 1451 01:16:07,484 --> 01:16:10,004 "of the next generation of great tech companies 1452 01:16:10,028 --> 01:16:11,714 "that are gonna rule the world. 1453 01:16:11,738 --> 01:16:16,219 Give me $45 billion, and I'll make you a trillion dollars." 1454 01:16:16,243 --> 01:16:18,555 They wanna get out of the oil business 1455 01:16:18,579 --> 01:16:21,182 and get into as many other businesses as possible. 1456 01:16:21,206 --> 01:16:23,726 Because they're sitting on a dwindling asset. 1457 01:16:23,750 --> 01:16:27,856 And so what better business to diversify than technology 1458 01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:31,568 and what better way than with the most renowned tech investor in the world 1459 01:16:31,592 --> 01:16:34,904 who wants to play on the scale that you can play on? 1460 01:16:34,928 --> 01:16:39,242 - The problem, however, is that you can't really get in on the ground floor 1461 01:16:39,266 --> 01:16:41,995 at Facebook or Google or Amazon or Netflix. 1462 01:16:42,019 --> 01:16:43,580 It's way too late. 1463 01:16:43,604 --> 01:16:46,791 So you have Masa Son investing all this money in companies 1464 01:16:46,815 --> 01:16:51,462 he's telling the world are tech companies but aren't real tech companies. 1465 01:16:51,486 --> 01:16:54,591 And that's a lot of pressure to put on a team, 1466 01:16:54,615 --> 01:16:58,386 to say, "Pretty soon this company better be worth $100 billion," 1467 01:16:58,410 --> 01:17:01,806 and at some point you have to have the numbers to back up that valuation. 1468 01:17:01,830 --> 01:17:03,224 - You and me... 1469 01:17:03,248 --> 01:17:06,936 And that meant that they had to show growth 1470 01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,188 at any cost. 1471 01:17:08,212 --> 01:17:09,981 And that's a problem. 1472 01:17:10,005 --> 01:17:13,401 - Show them your heart, show them your truth. 1473 01:17:13,425 --> 01:17:14,986 Never give up! 1474 01:17:16,386 --> 01:17:18,615 Work until you drop! 1475 01:17:35,864 --> 01:17:38,760 It's Christmas Eve 2018, 1476 01:17:38,784 --> 01:17:42,347 Adam is with his family in Hawaii. 1477 01:17:42,371 --> 01:17:45,457 Surfing, you know, relaxing. It's vacation time. 1478 01:17:49,670 --> 01:17:52,315 Masa and Adam were working on a plan 1479 01:17:52,339 --> 01:17:55,527 that they were calling internally Project Fortitude. 1480 01:17:55,551 --> 01:17:59,656 And it was essentially a plan for SoftBank 1481 01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:01,699 to spend about $20 billion 1482 01:18:01,723 --> 01:18:05,519 and become a majority owner of WeWork. 1483 01:18:07,604 --> 01:18:09,582 Because of SoftBank's money 1484 01:18:09,606 --> 01:18:13,419 and a lot of what Masa pushed Adam to do, 1485 01:18:13,443 --> 01:18:16,673 they were spending as if they were gonna have this deal done 1486 01:18:16,697 --> 01:18:20,009 and bring so much capital to keep growing. 1487 01:18:20,033 --> 01:18:22,637 There was this hole, this future hole coming, 1488 01:18:22,661 --> 01:18:25,455 that they were gonna need a lot more capital to fill it. 1489 01:18:27,749 --> 01:18:29,561 This was a company that was burning, 1490 01:18:29,585 --> 01:18:31,437 at one point, $100 million a week. 1491 01:18:31,461 --> 01:18:34,399 Think about this, you could buy two Bombardier Global Expresses 1492 01:18:34,423 --> 01:18:38,194 at $50 million each, crash both into a mountain, 1493 01:18:38,218 --> 01:18:40,888 and that was the burn every week of this company. 1494 01:18:42,514 --> 01:18:45,577 And so kind of everything was working towards this goal 1495 01:18:45,601 --> 01:18:47,811 of this SoftBank partnership. 1496 01:18:49,229 --> 01:18:51,416 - There's something called the Nantucket Sleigh Ride, 1497 01:18:51,440 --> 01:18:53,835 which is, when you harpoon a whale, 1498 01:18:53,859 --> 01:18:57,463 you're supposed to bring him to the ship, but occasionally a Nantucket Sleigh Ride 1499 01:18:57,487 --> 01:19:00,091 is when the whale takes you out to sea and you're stuck. 1500 01:19:00,115 --> 01:19:03,803 You gotta ride that whale out even if that whale takes you to Greenland. 1501 01:19:03,827 --> 01:19:07,098 Adam clearly thought he was taking Masa on a Nantucket Sleigh Ride, 1502 01:19:07,122 --> 01:19:09,851 and that SoftBank had already committed so much money, 1503 01:19:09,875 --> 01:19:12,854 they were already in, that they were kind of stuck. 1504 01:19:12,878 --> 01:19:14,772 And so the way Adam was running the company, 1505 01:19:14,796 --> 01:19:16,733 it was the assumption that 1506 01:19:16,757 --> 01:19:20,820 he had an infinite supply of billions to keep growing. 1507 01:19:20,844 --> 01:19:23,740 - Adam had been convinced earlier in the month 1508 01:19:23,764 --> 01:19:25,408 that this was gonna happen 1509 01:19:25,432 --> 01:19:28,411 and the people doing the deal were essentially done. 1510 01:19:28,435 --> 01:19:31,998 It was pencils down on sort of December 24 at WeWork. 1511 01:19:32,022 --> 01:19:33,607 Everyone expected it was gonna happen. 1512 01:19:38,737 --> 01:19:40,632 And then Adam 1513 01:19:40,656 --> 01:19:43,301 gets a call from Masa on Christmas Eve, 1514 01:19:43,325 --> 01:19:47,305 basically telling him, "Sorry, I can't go through with it. 1515 01:19:47,329 --> 01:19:50,350 "The market's working against me. Investors don't like it. 1516 01:19:50,374 --> 01:19:52,000 We just can't make it work right now." 1517 01:19:53,836 --> 01:19:56,189 When Masa decides he's not gonna put that money in, 1518 01:19:56,213 --> 01:20:00,443 Adam Neumann had a problem, because he had nowhere else to go. 1519 01:20:00,467 --> 01:20:02,779 Nobody else is gonna write him a check because 1520 01:20:02,803 --> 01:20:04,614 everyone knows SoftBank has the money. 1521 01:20:04,638 --> 01:20:07,766 So if SoftBank's not putting in more money, there must be a problem. 1522 01:20:10,644 --> 01:20:12,705 Like it or not, 1523 01:20:12,729 --> 01:20:16,167 they're going to need more money somehow. 1524 01:20:21,655 --> 01:20:23,091 - It's really funny, I've been looking, 1525 01:20:23,115 --> 01:20:25,426 I've been watching the press around this last fundraise 1526 01:20:25,450 --> 01:20:27,053 and I actually think it's hilarious 1527 01:20:27,077 --> 01:20:29,764 because for some reason there was an expectation 1528 01:20:29,788 --> 01:20:33,643 that there was gonna be like a $20 billion or $16 billion raise. 1529 01:20:33,667 --> 01:20:36,020 It's a $6 billion raise. 1530 01:20:36,044 --> 01:20:40,024 It's the second largest venture capital investment of all time. 1531 01:20:40,048 --> 01:20:43,278 I'm an investor in Uber so I know what the first largest one was. 1532 01:20:43,302 --> 01:20:45,071 It's the second largest of all time. 1533 01:20:45,095 --> 01:20:47,031 It's SoftBank coming into this company. 1534 01:20:47,055 --> 01:20:49,492 Now they have $10 billion invested in this company. 1535 01:20:49,516 --> 01:20:51,619 So the notion that anybody is projecting 1536 01:20:51,643 --> 01:20:53,913 that they don't have confidence in the company I think is crazy. 1537 01:20:53,937 --> 01:20:55,373 I have confidence in the company. 1538 01:20:55,397 --> 01:20:58,376 - First of all, thank you, Ashton, it's amazing. 1539 01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,128 After the collapse of the deal, 1540 01:21:00,152 --> 01:21:03,798 they're out there trying to put this really good face on. 1541 01:21:03,822 --> 01:21:06,551 He brings along Ashton Kutcher as this pump-up guy. 1542 01:21:06,575 --> 01:21:09,929 And it was really disingenuous. 1543 01:21:09,953 --> 01:21:13,308 - It's above and beyond what we need to fund the company for the next... 1544 01:21:13,332 --> 01:21:14,809 - Okay. - ...four to five years. 1545 01:21:14,833 --> 01:21:18,563 Adam was saying things that were completely false. 1546 01:21:18,587 --> 01:21:21,566 WeWork was currently a bonfire of cash 1547 01:21:21,590 --> 01:21:24,652 and was gonna run out of money by the end of the year. 1548 01:21:24,676 --> 01:21:26,738 - The interesting thing about the investment, 1549 01:21:26,762 --> 01:21:28,823 there's a lot of rumors and there's what happened. 1550 01:21:28,847 --> 01:21:31,451 The most important thing is, when Masa called me and said, 1551 01:21:31,475 --> 01:21:33,119 "You know, this has happened and that happened 1552 01:21:33,143 --> 01:21:34,496 and the world is changing," 1553 01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:37,624 the first thing he said is, "I'm calling you to share this as a partner. 1554 01:21:37,648 --> 01:21:39,751 And I just wanted to come up with a solution together." 1555 01:21:39,775 --> 01:21:41,961 - Because that deal didn't happen, does that change your thoughts 1556 01:21:41,985 --> 01:21:43,713 on an IPO timeline? 1557 01:21:43,737 --> 01:21:46,007 - Just so we... we keep saying "did not happen," just so we're clear. 1558 01:21:46,031 --> 01:21:47,217 We never signed the deal. 1559 01:21:47,241 --> 01:21:49,010 It's not that we signed the deal and something happened. 1560 01:21:49,034 --> 01:21:51,804 We were trying to figure out the best way to do it. 1561 01:21:51,828 --> 01:21:54,974 But, no, regarding an IPO, it's always been an option. 1562 01:21:54,998 --> 01:21:57,393 We are ready for an IPO. 1563 01:21:57,417 --> 01:22:01,397 - You are ready? - WeWork is always ready for an IPO. 1564 01:22:01,421 --> 01:22:03,149 We will choose the right time to do it 1565 01:22:03,173 --> 01:22:04,943 when it's correct for the mission of the company. 1566 01:22:04,967 --> 01:22:06,945 - What are you looking for? 1567 01:22:06,969 --> 01:22:09,197 - I want to elevate the world's consciousness. 1568 01:22:09,221 --> 01:22:11,449 - Okay, so when you do that, then you can go public? 1569 01:22:11,473 --> 01:22:12,700 - It's not one or the other. 1570 01:22:12,724 --> 01:22:14,828 When I feel that to achieve that mission, 1571 01:22:14,852 --> 01:22:17,938 going public will help it, that will be the day. 1572 01:22:21,775 --> 01:22:23,795 Were you anticipating 1573 01:22:23,819 --> 01:22:26,047 WeWork's S1 when it came out? 1574 01:22:26,071 --> 01:22:29,050 - No. I remember I was on vacation, it was in August, 1575 01:22:29,074 --> 01:22:30,885 and I remember telling my family 1576 01:22:30,909 --> 01:22:33,054 when someone sent me a link to it, 1577 01:22:33,078 --> 01:22:35,056 and I started reading the first few pages, 1578 01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:37,851 I said, "I apologize. I'm out for the weekend," 1579 01:22:37,875 --> 01:22:41,020 because this was just too good and I needed to read through this. 1580 01:22:41,044 --> 01:22:43,356 It felt more like a, uh... 1581 01:22:43,380 --> 01:22:45,900 a novel written by someone who was shrooming 1582 01:22:45,924 --> 01:22:47,467 than an S1. 1583 01:22:48,594 --> 01:22:50,655 An S1 is a form you have to fill out 1584 01:22:50,679 --> 01:22:52,556 that's a precursor to going public. 1585 01:22:53,599 --> 01:22:56,911 It's a first introduction to your company, to the world, 1586 01:22:56,935 --> 01:22:59,831 where you're representing that these are the facts. 1587 01:22:59,855 --> 01:23:03,650 But that means you've gotta come clean, and there are a lot of details in there, 1588 01:23:04,067 --> 01:23:07,362 and in WeWork's case, the devil was in the details. 1589 01:23:08,697 --> 01:23:10,884 - So the first red flag was on page one. 1590 01:23:10,908 --> 01:23:13,094 It says, "We dedicate this to the energy of We... 1591 01:23:13,118 --> 01:23:16,139 Greater than any one of us but inside each of us." 1592 01:23:16,163 --> 01:23:18,808 I mean, for God sakes, they're renting fucking desks. 1593 01:23:18,832 --> 01:23:21,853 I was actually on vacation in the middle of Austria, 1594 01:23:21,877 --> 01:23:23,730 hiking with some friends, 1595 01:23:23,754 --> 01:23:26,649 and then I get to a place where there's a little service. 1596 01:23:28,175 --> 01:23:30,653 I just start getting these texts and emails, 1597 01:23:30,677 --> 01:23:32,363 and it's like "WTF." 1598 01:23:32,387 --> 01:23:34,574 And like, "Oh, my God!" 1599 01:23:34,598 --> 01:23:36,517 And I was like, "I think I know what happened." 1600 01:23:38,268 --> 01:23:40,038 Almost everyone you talked to 1601 01:23:40,062 --> 01:23:44,834 had a different item that horrified them. 1602 01:23:44,858 --> 01:23:46,586 So like one by one, they would say, 1603 01:23:46,610 --> 01:23:49,672 "I cannot believe his wife is choosing his successor," 1604 01:23:49,696 --> 01:23:53,843 or, "So egregious that he would have these 20-1 voting shares." 1605 01:23:53,867 --> 01:23:57,805 Or, "I can't believe the company is paying him $6 million 1606 01:23:57,829 --> 01:24:02,519 for the trademark to the word 'we' in the company name." 1607 01:24:02,543 --> 01:24:04,646 He was buying buildings, 1608 01:24:04,670 --> 01:24:07,524 and then asking WeWork 1609 01:24:07,548 --> 01:24:09,609 to lease those buildings from him. 1610 01:24:09,633 --> 01:24:13,029 And then he took $700 million out of this company 1611 01:24:13,053 --> 01:24:17,242 at the very time he was asking the public to put money in the company. 1612 01:24:17,266 --> 01:24:19,369 - With many of these unicorn IPOs, 1613 01:24:19,393 --> 01:24:22,622 the CO is mentioned anywhere between 12 and 40 times. 1614 01:24:22,646 --> 01:24:26,417 In the case of Adam Neumann, it was 170 times. 1615 01:24:27,776 --> 01:24:29,963 If you tell a 30-something male 1616 01:24:29,987 --> 01:24:34,092 that he's Jesus Christ, he's inclined to believe you. 1617 01:24:34,116 --> 01:24:36,386 Rebekah is very involved 1618 01:24:36,410 --> 01:24:39,264 in the part of the document that people laughed at, 1619 01:24:39,288 --> 01:24:41,975 and they were spending a lot of time in the Hamptons. 1620 01:24:41,999 --> 01:24:45,645 And they had this sort of constant string of WeWork employees 1621 01:24:45,669 --> 01:24:49,065 who would get a seaplane or helicopter to go out to the Hamptons 1622 01:24:49,089 --> 01:24:51,776 just to meet with them on some IPO stuff. 1623 01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:53,903 You just keep reading it and be like, 1624 01:24:53,927 --> 01:24:56,948 "Oh, my God, did anyone pr... Like, look at this 1625 01:24:56,972 --> 01:24:59,284 and tell them what it was gonna look like?" 1626 01:24:59,308 --> 01:25:01,661 The reality is that, like, people had been telling Adam that for a while 1627 01:25:01,685 --> 01:25:03,746 but he didn't care; he thought that people would look past it 1628 01:25:03,770 --> 01:25:05,665 or he wanted to enrich himself 1629 01:25:05,689 --> 01:25:08,066 and thought that it wouldn't be a big deal. 1630 01:25:11,153 --> 01:25:14,257 Meanwhile, he was around WeWork less. 1631 01:25:14,281 --> 01:25:16,968 He went on a month-long birthday celebration 1632 01:25:16,992 --> 01:25:20,597 where he went to the Maldives to surf. 1633 01:25:20,621 --> 01:25:23,057 You know, I think generally he was seen 1634 01:25:23,081 --> 01:25:26,352 as more erratic and nervous and... 1635 01:25:26,376 --> 01:25:28,104 in hindsight, he probably had a view 1636 01:25:28,128 --> 01:25:30,255 that maybe this has gone too far. 1637 01:25:33,217 --> 01:25:36,845 Him going surfing was a way of avoiding reality... 1638 01:25:38,764 --> 01:25:41,767 and keeping the high life going as much as he could. 1639 01:25:44,770 --> 01:25:48,374 This company has just been savaged after its S1 came out. 1640 01:25:48,398 --> 01:25:51,252 The price has come down and down and down. 1641 01:25:51,276 --> 01:25:54,839 $47 billion dropped down to 10 to 15. 1642 01:25:54,863 --> 01:25:56,549 Every day now they're trying to come up 1643 01:25:56,573 --> 01:25:59,573 with something to salvage this IPO, and I don't know if they're gonna do it. 1644 01:26:00,369 --> 01:26:01,804 - We'll clean it up. I think we're great, 1645 01:26:01,828 --> 01:26:03,932 and I think we're preparing for the roadshow right now. 1646 01:26:03,956 --> 01:26:05,391 Just hope my hair is good. 1647 01:26:05,415 --> 01:26:07,894 - Your hair looks great. - Okay. 1648 01:26:07,918 --> 01:26:09,729 This is harder than 20-foot waves. 1649 01:26:09,753 --> 01:26:11,564 - I get it. - You know why? 1650 01:26:11,588 --> 01:26:13,775 'Cause I control the 20-foot waves. 1651 01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,239 I'll take a 20-foot wave... 1652 01:26:19,263 --> 01:26:21,515 every day for the next 10 days. 1653 01:26:22,933 --> 01:26:25,286 I'm scared of drowning just thinking about it. 1654 01:26:25,310 --> 01:26:26,603 - All right. 1655 01:26:28,522 --> 01:26:32,043 Real estate is going through a fundamental shift. 1656 01:26:32,067 --> 01:26:34,587 From a "fixed cost per seat" commodity... 1657 01:26:34,611 --> 01:26:36,130 The world was kind of up in arms 1658 01:26:36,154 --> 01:26:40,635 about how egregious this company was. 1659 01:26:40,659 --> 01:26:43,263 But Adam had to go public anyway. 1660 01:26:43,287 --> 01:26:45,849 - ...have a 12-year headstart. 1661 01:26:45,873 --> 01:26:47,976 - There's a two-week period you start 1662 01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,478 marketing your shares officially to investors. 1663 01:26:50,502 --> 01:26:52,856 It's called a roadshow. 1664 01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,859 Kind of like a central part of the roadshow 1665 01:26:55,883 --> 01:26:57,986 is a video that goes along with it. 1666 01:26:58,010 --> 01:27:02,490 So, they had filmed portions of it already. 1667 01:27:02,514 --> 01:27:05,785 So theoretically he was just gonna do his part of it, 1668 01:27:05,809 --> 01:27:07,620 they can edit it in. 1669 01:27:07,644 --> 01:27:10,165 - Fixed cost commodity, fixed cost commodity. 1670 01:27:10,189 --> 01:27:11,416 Fixed cost commodity... 1671 01:27:11,440 --> 01:27:13,626 Adam kept delaying, 1672 01:27:13,650 --> 01:27:17,755 and even literally would leave rooms full of people 1673 01:27:17,779 --> 01:27:20,258 waiting, set up for him to come. 1674 01:27:20,282 --> 01:27:24,703 They spent hundreds of thousand dollars on shoots that Adam didn't go to. 1675 01:27:27,956 --> 01:27:29,517 That one sounded great. 1676 01:27:29,541 --> 01:27:30,935 - Thank you. 1677 01:27:30,959 --> 01:27:33,271 It seems kind of, like, it's procrastination, 1678 01:27:33,295 --> 01:27:35,315 but, you know, was there something deeper, 1679 01:27:35,339 --> 01:27:38,634 I don't know, of why you don't show up to film this thing? 1680 01:27:40,177 --> 01:27:45,074 Finally they start filming him, but that day he was just off. 1681 01:27:45,098 --> 01:27:46,493 - Just a second. 1682 01:27:46,517 --> 01:27:48,912 Zack, you need the sentences to be full for me. 1683 01:27:48,936 --> 01:27:50,830 So whenever you have a dead space like this, 1684 01:27:50,854 --> 01:27:52,499 put that up there. 1685 01:27:52,523 --> 01:27:55,126 - In general, he's an incredible speaker if you see him, 1686 01:27:55,150 --> 01:27:56,628 but he can't really read off a teleprompter. 1687 01:27:56,652 --> 01:27:58,213 He struggles with that. 1688 01:27:58,237 --> 01:28:00,673 - Yeah, the reason it's a little hard for me is, 1689 01:28:00,697 --> 01:28:03,051 I'm not a guy who reads from a script, that's the thing. 1690 01:28:03,075 --> 01:28:05,470 To do it totally free, though, I need to, I can't... 1691 01:28:05,494 --> 01:28:08,723 I'm doing word-for-word so I'm gonna need to loosen it up a little bit. 1692 01:28:08,747 --> 01:28:10,600 And I think as the day wore on, 1693 01:28:10,624 --> 01:28:13,353 it just went on and on and on and on. 1694 01:28:13,377 --> 01:28:15,188 And he seemed more frazzled 1695 01:28:15,212 --> 01:28:17,690 and wasn't getting through it and wasn't making sense. 1696 01:28:17,714 --> 01:28:19,275 - Based on our savor... 1697 01:28:19,299 --> 01:28:22,278 Agh! Ugh! Let's go. 1698 01:28:22,302 --> 01:28:25,406 It became somewhat like a party. 1699 01:28:25,430 --> 01:28:27,575 It just almost like devolved the whole night. 1700 01:28:27,599 --> 01:28:31,246 - The employees of all companies all need the same thing. 1701 01:28:31,270 --> 01:28:33,706 Wellness, food. 1702 01:28:33,730 --> 01:28:37,252 He just didn't do a good job by everyone there. 1703 01:28:37,276 --> 01:28:40,380 And I think a lot of people who were there were quite stressed. 1704 01:28:40,404 --> 01:28:43,284 They're like, "This has to get done. We're supposed to do this tomorrow." 1705 01:28:43,949 --> 01:28:47,804 It's almost like, this is your worst nightmare. 1706 01:28:47,828 --> 01:28:50,598 - This is who I am. This is what I do. 1707 01:28:50,622 --> 01:28:53,893 I tackle something until it's right. 1708 01:28:53,917 --> 01:28:55,669 I will not stop. 1709 01:28:58,422 --> 01:29:00,608 This is what no one's understanding right now, 1710 01:29:00,632 --> 01:29:03,343 but it's okay because we'll make sure they learn. 1711 01:29:06,180 --> 01:29:08,199 And then the next morning, 1712 01:29:08,223 --> 01:29:11,244 they decide... "No, it's just not gonna happen. 1713 01:29:11,268 --> 01:29:13,020 We need to call it off." 1714 01:29:17,441 --> 01:29:19,752 Adam came in to WeWork's office. 1715 01:29:19,776 --> 01:29:22,589 He comes in, he's more dressed up than usual. 1716 01:29:22,613 --> 01:29:25,258 And gives an all-hands talk. 1717 01:29:25,282 --> 01:29:29,095 And there he basically told all the staff, 1718 01:29:29,119 --> 01:29:30,555 "This doesn't mean the IPO's off. 1719 01:29:30,579 --> 01:29:33,433 "Like, we're gonna come back and this is gonna be amazing 1720 01:29:33,457 --> 01:29:36,978 and, um, we will do an IPO later this year." 1721 01:29:37,002 --> 01:29:40,356 But like everything behind the scenes was beginning to happen 1722 01:29:40,380 --> 01:29:42,424 to start to oust him. 1723 01:29:45,385 --> 01:29:47,697 At the time, it was less known 1724 01:29:47,721 --> 01:29:51,326 that Adam was this totally erratic CEO 1725 01:29:51,350 --> 01:29:53,244 that had sort of messianic statements 1726 01:29:53,268 --> 01:29:56,581 and was doing things in a way that a lot of people would call crazy. 1727 01:29:56,605 --> 01:30:01,276 Uh, and so we basically laid that out in a story. 1728 01:30:02,611 --> 01:30:05,465 The signature anecdote to the thing that probably got the most attention 1729 01:30:05,489 --> 01:30:10,220 was about how he took a plane trip with friends to Israel, 1730 01:30:10,244 --> 01:30:11,971 and they were smoking pot on the plane, 1731 01:30:11,995 --> 01:30:15,350 and then in Israel they didn't finish all the pot 1732 01:30:15,374 --> 01:30:17,209 and so they stuffed some in a cereal box. 1733 01:30:18,293 --> 01:30:21,255 The crew on the plane finds it and is sort of incensed. 1734 01:30:22,923 --> 01:30:24,526 And so they recall the plane. 1735 01:30:24,550 --> 01:30:27,427 Uh, and so then Adam has to find his own way back from Israel. 1736 01:30:30,222 --> 01:30:31,991 When you can land 1737 01:30:32,015 --> 01:30:34,869 two rockets concurrently on barges and you smoke pot, 1738 01:30:34,893 --> 01:30:38,081 you're seen as quirky and likable. 1739 01:30:38,105 --> 01:30:41,084 When you don't go public and your investors lose money, 1740 01:30:41,108 --> 01:30:45,255 all of a sudden they decide that smoking pot is a criminal activity. 1741 01:30:45,279 --> 01:30:48,049 Once Eliot's article came out, 1742 01:30:48,073 --> 01:30:50,117 he became pretty much untouchable on Wall Street. 1743 01:30:51,577 --> 01:30:53,847 And so, he made the decision to step down 1744 01:30:53,871 --> 01:30:56,790 at, like, the urging of a lot of different people. 1745 01:30:59,042 --> 01:31:01,980 - Adam Neumann is expected to step down as... 1746 01:31:02,004 --> 01:31:04,482 The company went from a $47 billion valuation 1747 01:31:04,506 --> 01:31:06,317 to near bankruptcy in just six weeks. 1748 01:31:06,341 --> 01:31:08,278 - The future of the company very uncertain at this point. 1749 01:31:08,302 --> 01:31:13,992 When I first heard about WeWork's financial collapse, 1750 01:31:14,016 --> 01:31:18,538 I honestly did feel really, really sad 1751 01:31:18,562 --> 01:31:20,147 for Adam. 1752 01:31:21,773 --> 01:31:26,129 Because it felt like he believed in what he was doing 1753 01:31:26,153 --> 01:31:29,591 with every fiber of his being. 1754 01:31:29,615 --> 01:31:31,926 WeWork now is suddenly in decline, 1755 01:31:31,950 --> 01:31:35,096 the office-sharing company's new financial lifeline 1756 01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:37,765 giving its controversial co-founder Adam Neumann 1757 01:31:37,789 --> 01:31:40,768 a $1.7 billion payout to step down 1758 01:31:40,792 --> 01:31:44,588 while the troubled company's reportedly planning massive layoffs. 1759 01:31:46,340 --> 01:31:50,069 When I started to learn a little bit more about it, 1760 01:31:50,093 --> 01:31:52,113 um... 1761 01:31:52,137 --> 01:31:54,699 that sadness 1762 01:31:54,723 --> 01:31:57,452 turned to anger pretty quickly. 1763 01:31:57,476 --> 01:31:59,704 Because... 1764 01:31:59,728 --> 01:32:04,417 now all of a sudden, it felt like this person 1765 01:32:04,441 --> 01:32:07,295 lied to me, lied to a bunch of people, 1766 01:32:07,319 --> 01:32:10,507 about this beautiful way of working 1767 01:32:10,531 --> 01:32:12,550 and this beautiful way of living. 1768 01:32:12,574 --> 01:32:15,929 I felt angry at him 1769 01:32:15,953 --> 01:32:18,890 for doing that, but also felt angry at me 1770 01:32:18,914 --> 01:32:20,832 for, like, buying the bullshit. 1771 01:32:22,835 --> 01:32:28,549 And when they started laying people off, the anger switched to rage. 1772 01:32:29,633 --> 01:32:32,403 It seemed like WeThis, WeGrow, WeLive, WeWork. 1773 01:32:32,427 --> 01:32:33,947 We-we-we-we-we. 1774 01:32:33,971 --> 01:32:35,949 You know, it's gotta be we, not me. 1775 01:32:35,973 --> 01:32:39,828 It was we for everybody, except for Adam. 1776 01:32:39,852 --> 01:32:44,874 He got a golden parachute worth $1.7 billion. 1777 01:32:44,898 --> 01:32:48,795 The idea that there would be all this money given to Adam 1778 01:32:48,819 --> 01:32:51,130 was demoralizing. 1779 01:32:51,154 --> 01:32:53,424 Y ou know, that kind of sticks in your craw a little bit, 1780 01:32:53,448 --> 01:32:56,427 particularly when you've been preached at about, "It's all about we." 1781 01:32:56,451 --> 01:32:59,347 If that's your deal and you're sitting on all this money 1782 01:32:59,371 --> 01:33:01,891 and you really believe in what you were saying the whole time, 1783 01:33:01,915 --> 01:33:05,127 you should give some of the money back to help the employees who got screwed. 1784 01:33:07,838 --> 01:33:10,483 I think what's frustrating about all of that 1785 01:33:10,507 --> 01:33:14,654 is that, when you focus the story on Adam, 1786 01:33:14,678 --> 01:33:18,324 you miss how many people worked really, really hard 1787 01:33:18,348 --> 01:33:21,369 to bring this impossible vision to life, 1788 01:33:21,393 --> 01:33:23,788 who got nothing. 1789 01:33:23,812 --> 01:33:25,748 They cared about WeWork a lot. 1790 01:33:25,772 --> 01:33:27,500 They were invested in its success. 1791 01:33:27,524 --> 01:33:30,503 They were invested in the community. 1792 01:33:30,527 --> 01:33:33,923 And they were hurt financially. 1793 01:33:33,947 --> 01:33:35,758 Reputationally. 1794 01:33:35,782 --> 01:33:40,180 Suddenly this company that they spent years on 1795 01:33:40,204 --> 01:33:42,206 is a laughingstock. 1796 01:33:45,042 --> 01:33:48,146 - My mind was warped in such a way at WeWork 1797 01:33:48,170 --> 01:33:52,466 that I felt, when I left, I had to unwarp it. 1798 01:33:54,218 --> 01:33:55,820 They don't care about you. 1799 01:33:55,844 --> 01:33:59,032 You know, like that really, really messed with me, 1800 01:33:59,056 --> 01:34:01,850 because I thought, "Who is telling me the truth?" 1801 01:34:03,936 --> 01:34:08,458 I have done a lot of therapy to like navigate through 1802 01:34:08,482 --> 01:34:09,876 what happened there. 1803 01:34:09,900 --> 01:34:12,736 Why was I so devastated when it ended? 1804 01:34:13,570 --> 01:34:18,009 Why did it feel like, not that I lost a job, 1805 01:34:18,033 --> 01:34:19,785 but like I lost my purpose? 1806 01:34:21,537 --> 01:34:24,998 Some mind trick has been played on a lot of us. 1807 01:34:28,293 --> 01:34:32,214 You know, it just... ...I think of myself as this... 1808 01:34:33,841 --> 01:34:37,987 younger girl, and I wanna say to her, 1809 01:34:38,011 --> 01:34:40,156 "You didn't do anything wrong." 1810 01:34:40,180 --> 01:34:42,158 Like, "You're valuable 1811 01:34:42,182 --> 01:34:45,078 and that company is not your worth." 1812 01:34:45,102 --> 01:34:49,374 But because I felt like, how am I gonna change the world now? 1813 01:34:49,398 --> 01:34:51,441 Like, I needed that. 1814 01:34:55,654 --> 01:34:59,217 When I look back on my time spent 1815 01:34:59,241 --> 01:35:02,303 in the We community... 1816 01:35:02,327 --> 01:35:05,557 I see all the friends that I made. 1817 01:35:05,581 --> 01:35:08,292 Um, all the relationships that I still have. 1818 01:35:10,586 --> 01:35:14,065 All the people that I deeply care about. 1819 01:35:14,089 --> 01:35:18,695 The people that I wouldn't have met outside of the We community. 1820 01:35:18,719 --> 01:35:22,574 Those are the people that I choose to remember. 1821 01:35:22,598 --> 01:35:24,826 Not... 1822 01:35:24,850 --> 01:35:26,518 the asshole that wrecked it. 1823 01:35:33,817 --> 01:35:36,254 You know, people will see in Adam Neumann 1824 01:35:36,278 --> 01:35:37,881 what they wanna see. 1825 01:35:37,905 --> 01:35:41,509 That may not be the most fulfilling answer for a lot of people, 1826 01:35:41,533 --> 01:35:45,638 but I do think that he can represent a lot more 1827 01:35:45,662 --> 01:35:47,265 than what he really is. 1828 01:35:47,289 --> 01:35:49,392 And I think that, you know, 1829 01:35:49,416 --> 01:35:52,687 the reason that maybe he resonates with people 1830 01:35:52,711 --> 01:35:56,215 is because it felt like he was close. 1831 01:35:59,009 --> 01:36:02,906 Clearly there was something about WeWork and something about Adam 1832 01:36:02,930 --> 01:36:07,267 where maybe he could have pulled it off. 1833 01:36:09,394 --> 01:36:11,897 It could have come together into something beautiful. 1834 01:36:14,525 --> 01:36:18,004 But, unfortunately he set an example 1835 01:36:18,028 --> 01:36:21,341 which maybe is harmful for other entrepreneurs to follow, 1836 01:36:21,365 --> 01:36:25,470 or he's embodied the American dream in a way that worries us 1837 01:36:25,494 --> 01:36:28,932 because it was so attractive and it was so intoxicating 1838 01:36:28,956 --> 01:36:31,392 and yet had this disastrous result, 1839 01:36:31,416 --> 01:36:33,978 that that bothers us more than if he had just been 1840 01:36:34,002 --> 01:36:36,338 a failure with WeWork. 1841 01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:49,160 There's a lot of really special elements about WeWork 1842 01:36:49,184 --> 01:36:50,352 that... 1843 01:36:52,062 --> 01:36:54,499 I hope continue to last. 1844 01:36:54,523 --> 01:36:57,335 Like especially as we sit in this time of COVID 1845 01:36:57,359 --> 01:37:00,213 and we're, you know, people are working from home, 1846 01:37:00,237 --> 01:37:04,133 and, you know, I, myself, have been inside, 1847 01:37:04,157 --> 01:37:07,637 mostly inside for, you know, months and months. 1848 01:37:07,661 --> 01:37:11,182 And it is on the days that I get to interact with other people 1849 01:37:11,206 --> 01:37:14,793 that I come home and I'm like, "Wow, that was a fulfilling day." 1850 01:37:20,465 --> 01:37:23,862 Community, I think, has been... 1851 01:37:23,886 --> 01:37:26,239 taken piece by piece from our world 1852 01:37:26,263 --> 01:37:28,658 for quite a while, like very slowly, 1853 01:37:28,682 --> 01:37:34,247 and then now here we are sitting literally in... in a pandemic 1854 01:37:34,271 --> 01:37:40,194 of lack of interaction and I would give anything to like... 1855 01:37:42,029 --> 01:37:46,116 be consumed with people again. 1856 01:37:52,539 --> 01:37:56,060 The vision of us working together, 1857 01:37:56,084 --> 01:37:59,755 to be better together, is lacking today. 1858 01:38:09,681 --> 01:38:11,409 I think we need that. 1859 01:38:11,433 --> 01:38:16,080 We go back in time to the Greek town squares. 1860 01:38:16,104 --> 01:38:17,624 It has existed forever. 1861 01:38:17,648 --> 01:38:20,101 Community has existed forever. 1862 01:38:20,125 --> 01:38:24,880 Because it's crucial to our survival as human beings. 1863 01:38:31,303 --> 01:38:34,712 What are we if we don't have each other? 1864 01:39:19,292 --> 01:39:21,292 >>>>oakislandtk<<<<< www.opensubtitles.org 163792

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