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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,518 --> 00:00:14,588 >>> VERY EXCITING TO BE BACK IN ROME AGAIN. 2 00:00:14,588 --> 00:00:17,658 AT EVERY TURN THERE’S SOMETHING OF HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE. 3 00:00:17,658 --> 00:00:20,588 LOOK AT THAT. IT’S LITERALLY LIKE YOU’RE 4 00:00:20,594 --> 00:00:26,900 LIVING INSIDE A MUSEUM. EVEN IF YOU’VE NEVER BEEN TO 5 00:00:26,900 --> 00:00:30,170 ROME, YOU’VE BEEN TO ROME. ITS STORIES HAVE BEEN TOLD AND 6 00:00:30,170 --> 00:00:34,508 RETOLD ON STAGE AND SCREEN. THE CITY OF TOGAS AND 7 00:00:34,508 --> 00:00:42,778 GLADIATORS, POWER AND INTRIGUE, EMPIRE AND RUIN. 8 00:00:42,783 --> 00:00:47,988 AND OF COURSE LA DOLCE, VITA, THE GOOD LIFE. 9 00:00:47,988 --> 00:00:51,958 I’M STANLEY TUCCI, ITALIAN ON BOTH SIDES AND I’M TRAVELING 10 00:00:51,959 --> 00:00:59,229 ACROSS ITALY TO DISCOVER HOW THE FOOD IN THIS COUNTRY’S 20 11 00:00:59,232 --> 00:01:01,632 REGIONS ARE AS UNIQUE AS THEIR PAST. 12 00:01:01,635 --> 00:01:06,607 THE FAMOUS ANCIENTS OF ROME ONCE RULED THE WORLD. 13 00:01:06,607 --> 00:01:11,677 BUT I’M HERE TO DISCOVER HOW IT’S THE FOOD OF ORDINARY ROMANS 14 00:01:11,678 --> 00:01:17,178 THAT HAS CONQUERED OUR HEARTS. BUT I’M GOING TO WARN YOU. 15 00:01:17,184 --> 00:01:26,360 IF YOU’RE ON A LOW CARB DIET, BEWARE. 16 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,496 YOU’RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF PASTA IN THIS SHOW. 17 00:01:29,496 --> 00:01:47,306 I MEAN LIKE A LOT OF IT, A LOT. ♪ 18 00:01:47,314 --> 00:01:50,150 >> I’VE BEEN VISITING ROME FOR DECADES. 19 00:01:50,150 --> 00:01:54,020 ITS BEAUTY AND HISTORY STILL LEAVE MY BREATHLESS, BUT 20 00:01:54,021 --> 00:01:57,021 SOMETIMES IT’S DIFFICULT TO FIND A GOOD MEAL IF YOU DON’T KNOW 21 00:01:57,024 --> 00:02:02,594 WHERE TO LOOK. ROME IS SITUATED IN A REGION 22 00:02:02,596 --> 00:02:06,500 SOMETIMES OVERLOOKED IN FAVOR OF ITS GRANDER GASTRONOMIC 23 00:02:06,500 --> 00:02:10,900 NEIGHBORS LIKE TUSCANY AND UBRIA. 24 00:02:10,904 --> 00:02:14,541 BUT LAZIO HAS FED ROME FOR CENTURIES AND EVERY PART OF THE 25 00:02:14,541 --> 00:02:17,741 SHEEP AND PIGS RAISED HERE IS PUT TO USE IN KITCHENS ACROSS 26 00:02:17,744 --> 00:02:23,016 THE CITY TO MAKE DEEPLY FLAVORSOME FOOD. 27 00:02:23,016 --> 00:02:27,546 TO START MY JOURNEY I’M CATCHING UP WITH MY OLD FRIEND CLAUDIA. 28 00:02:27,554 --> 00:02:30,223 SHE’S LIVED HER VIRTUALLY HER WHOLE LIFE. 29 00:02:30,223 --> 00:02:36,430 AND HER CARDINAL RULE FOR GOOD FOOD IS WHEN IN ROME EAT AS THE 30 00:02:36,430 --> 00:02:37,960 ROMANS DO. >> ARE YOU OKAY? 31 00:02:37,964 --> 00:02:40,100 >> I’M SO HAPPY TO SEE YOU. >> IT WAS A LONG TIME. 32 00:02:40,100 --> 00:02:44,270 >> IT WAS A LONG TIME. SOMEHOW ALMOST 30 YEARS HAS 33 00:02:44,271 --> 00:02:48,108 SLIPPED BY SINCE WE FIRST BECAME FRIENDS WHEN WE WORKED ON A 34 00:02:48,108 --> 00:02:50,777 MOVIE HERE TOGETHER. >> I THINK THAT YOU CAME LAST 35 00:02:50,777 --> 00:02:53,807 TIME ‐‐ >> THE VERY FIRST TIME WAS LIKE 36 00:02:53,814 --> 00:02:57,417 ’95. >> NO, I THINK ’93 BECAUSE IT 37 00:02:57,417 --> 00:03:00,347 WAS ‐‐ >> I DIDN’T KNOW I WAS THAT OLD. 38 00:03:00,353 --> 00:03:04,691 >> I KNOW, ME NEITHER. LET’S NOT MENTION IT. 39 00:03:04,691 --> 00:03:09,161 >> CLAUDIA, WANTS TO TAKE ME FOR A CLASSIC ROMAN PASTA LUNCH, BUT 40 00:03:09,162 --> 00:03:14,768 WITH AN HOUR TO KILL WE DECIDE TO GET A COFFEE AND REMINISCE. 41 00:03:14,768 --> 00:03:17,437 >> IT’S A REAL INSTITUTION. >> BUT THAT’S WHERE WE WENT A 42 00:03:17,437 --> 00:03:20,137 LONG TIME AGO. >> YEAH, YEAH. 43 00:03:20,140 --> 00:03:22,209 WE WERE THERE EVERY EVENING YOU KNOW? 44 00:03:22,209 --> 00:03:27,709 >> BACK IN THE ’90s WE USED TO HANG OUT IN A GREAT CAFE IN A 45 00:03:27,714 --> 00:03:32,552 GRIMY PART OF TOWN VERY MUCH ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE RIVER. 46 00:03:32,552 --> 00:03:35,822 AND HERE WE ARE. AND I WAS PLEASED TO HEAR IT’S 47 00:03:35,822 --> 00:03:42,996 STILL GOING STRONG. >> YOU REMEMBER? 48 00:03:42,996 --> 00:03:45,696 >> YES, I DO. I DO. 49 00:03:45,699 --> 00:03:49,169 >> WHAT’S THERE? THE PICTURE YOU GAVE THEM IN 50 00:03:49,169 --> 00:03:51,138 ’93. IT IS EXACTLY IN THE SAME PLACE. 51 00:03:51,138 --> 00:03:52,868 I THINK NOTHING CHANGED IN THIS PLACE. 52 00:03:52,873 --> 00:03:57,643 >> NO, IT HASN’T CHANGED. A LITTLE ESPRESSO WOULD BE JUST 53 00:03:57,644 --> 00:04:04,451 ENOUGH TO WHET OUR APPETITES BEFORE WE GO TO LUNCH. 54 00:04:04,451 --> 00:04:11,491 OR SO I THOUGHT. >> I KNOW, I KNOW. 55 00:04:11,491 --> 00:04:24,401 >> WHAT’S THAT? WHO’S JOINING US? 56 00:04:24,404 --> 00:04:33,213 THESE ARE ROMAN BREAKFAST WITH A 2,000‐YEAR‐OLD ROMAN HISTORY. 57 00:04:33,213 --> 00:04:35,282 IN THE MIDDLE AGES THEY WERE ONE OF IT FEW THINGS THE CHURCH 58 00:04:35,282 --> 00:04:41,421 ALLOWED YOU TO EAT DURING LENT. IT DOESN’T SEEM VERY SAINTLY TO 59 00:04:41,421 --> 00:04:47,791 ME. IS IT LIKE A BRIOCHE? 60 00:04:47,794 --> 00:05:07,014 >> IT’S FRIED, A SORT OF DOUGHNUT WITH EGG CREAM. 61 00:05:10,317 --> 00:05:17,317 THE ITALIANS DON’T EAT BREAKFAST LIKE THE AMERICANS OR THE DUTCH 62 00:05:17,324 --> 00:05:22,794 EAT BREAKFAST BECAUSE THEY DON’T EAT EGGS. 63 00:05:22,796 --> 00:05:38,046 IT’S ALWAYS SOMETHING SWEET. 64 00:05:44,117 --> 00:05:50,387 NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN. CIAO. 65 00:05:50,390 --> 00:05:53,760 AS WE STAGGERED OFF OUR BREAKFAST AND HEADED THROUGH I 66 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:58,098 NOTICED THE AREA WAS MUCH BUSIER AND HIPPER THAN YEARS AGO. 67 00:05:58,098 --> 00:06:02,998 >> THIS WAS THE POOR QUARTERS. YOU SEE THE BUILDINGS AS NICE AS 68 00:06:03,003 --> 00:06:06,373 THEY ARE ARE VERY SMALL. >> RIGHT. 69 00:06:06,373 --> 00:06:11,378 >> AND THEN, OF COURSE, AS IT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, THE OLD 70 00:06:11,378 --> 00:06:14,208 QUARTERS GOT VERY TRENDY AND EVERYBODY WANTED TO LIVE HERE. 71 00:06:14,214 --> 00:06:19,484 >> AND THEY BECOME MORE JENTRIFIED. 72 00:06:19,486 --> 00:06:23,390 THE CITY MAY BE CHANGING BUT ONE THING AS CONSTANT AS THE ANCIENT 73 00:06:23,390 --> 00:06:28,360 LANDMARKS IS HOW MUCH PEOPLE IN ROME LOVE THEIR PASTA. 74 00:06:28,361 --> 00:06:31,531 FOUR‐STAR DISHES IN PARTICULAR HAVE BECOME AN EMBLEM OF THE 75 00:06:31,531 --> 00:06:33,831 CITY. AND CLAUDIA IS TAKING ME TO FIND 76 00:06:33,833 --> 00:06:42,809 OUT MORE AT A PLACE SHE SAYS THE IS PANTHEON OF PASTA. 77 00:06:42,809 --> 00:06:57,489 THE RESTAURANT IS FULLY BOOKED. >> BUT WE DON’T CARE. 78 00:06:57,490 --> 00:07:00,060 TELL ME SOME MORE ABOUT PASTA IN ROME. 79 00:07:00,060 --> 00:07:04,130 >> PASTA IN ROME IS LIKE YOU EAT IT EVERY DAY. 80 00:07:04,130 --> 00:07:06,830 I MEAN, YOU DON’T LIVE WITHOUT PASTA. 81 00:07:06,833 --> 00:07:12,203 AND EVERYBODY HAS ITS OWN RECIPE, AND OF COURSE IT’S THE 82 00:07:12,205 --> 00:07:14,674 BEST EVER AND YOURS IS NOTHING COMPARED TO MINE. 83 00:07:14,674 --> 00:07:17,577 >> IT’S TRUE. IT DOES BECOME VERY TERRITORIAL, 84 00:07:17,577 --> 00:07:19,007 DOESN’T IT? >> YEAH. 85 00:07:19,012 --> 00:07:22,849 >> ROMANS REVERE WHAT THEY CALL THE FOUR PASTAS. 86 00:07:22,849 --> 00:07:26,649 >> NICE TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. 87 00:07:26,653 --> 00:07:35,829 SIMPLE BUT ICONIC DISHES OF STAGGERING DELICIOUSNESS. 88 00:07:35,829 --> 00:07:44,537 THERE ARE CREAMY PASTA MADE WITH MAINLY SHEEP CHEESE AND PEPPER. 89 00:07:44,537 --> 00:08:01,347 ADDED PORK, ITS LUXURIOUS COUSIN WHICH IS ELEVATED WITH EGG YOLKS 90 00:08:01,354 --> 00:08:11,498 AND THIS ROMAN FAVORITE. THEY’RE A BASE FOR A LOT OF 91 00:08:11,498 --> 00:08:26,546 DISHES IN ROME 92 00:08:26,546 --> 00:09:22,496 . THANK YOU SO MUCH. 93 00:09:22,502 --> 00:09:27,307 >> VERY GOOD. >> PASTA IS DELICIOUS. 94 00:09:27,307 --> 00:09:29,437 DELICIOUS. THE SAUCE IS ACTUALLY QUITE 95 00:09:29,442 --> 00:09:34,547 LIGHT, WHICH IS NICE. AND REALLY DELICATE. 96 00:09:34,547 --> 00:09:40,517 >> NO, NO. I KEPT A PLACE IN MY STOMACH FOR 97 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:48,060 THIS. >> BECAUSE WE DIDN’T EAT THE ‐‐ 98 00:09:48,061 --> 00:09:51,731 ACROSS THE CITY EVERY SINGLE DAY ROMANS EAT PASTA THAT HAS 99 00:09:51,731 --> 00:09:53,900 ANCIENT BONDS TO THEIR SURROUNDING COUNTRYSIDE. 100 00:09:53,900 --> 00:10:01,010 IT’S HARD TO IMAGINE BUT THIS ICONIC FOOD WA 101 00:10:12,352 --> 00:10:18,722 >>> SITTING AT THE BIG, WARM CARBOHYDRATE LOADED HEART OF 102 00:10:18,725 --> 00:10:26,365 ITALIAN CUISINE IS PASTA. AND FITTINGLY FOR THE NATION’S 103 00:10:26,366 --> 00:10:28,368 CAPITAL ROME IS OBSESSED WITH THIS STUFF. 104 00:10:28,368 --> 00:10:32,768 I’VE BEEN PROMISED THE BEST CARBONARA IN THE CITY. 105 00:10:32,772 --> 00:10:37,242 AND I’VE BEEN TOLD TO COME TO THE WORKING CLASS BACK STREETS 106 00:10:37,243 --> 00:10:48,621 AND ASK FOR THE DOM. TELL ME WHAT YOU DO. 107 00:10:48,621 --> 00:10:56,461 >> FOR A TIME I MAKE A SHOW WHERE I PLAY VINYL DISK BUT AT 108 00:10:56,462 --> 00:11:11,142 THE SAME TIME I COOK PASTA. >> HE’S A CHEF, HISTORIAN AND 109 00:11:11,144 --> 00:11:24,057 DEEJAY WHO COOKS ITALIAN FOOD. IT’S REALLY GREAT. 110 00:11:24,057 --> 00:11:27,957 DOM PASTA HAS PROMISED ME THE GREATEST DISH I’VE EVER TASTED 111 00:11:27,961 --> 00:11:31,798 AND ON THE WAY HE TELLS ME WHY PASTA MATTERS SO MUCH TO HIM. 112 00:11:31,798 --> 00:11:37,637 >> I REALIZE ITALIAN FOOD IS POPULAR FOOD. 113 00:11:37,637 --> 00:11:41,107 ITALIAN FOOD IS RETICENT OF THE NORMAL PEOPLE OR WORKING CLASS 114 00:11:41,107 --> 00:11:44,377 PEOPLE THAT EAT WELL BECAUSE THE WORKING CLASS PEOPLE CREATE THE 115 00:11:44,377 --> 00:11:48,577 ROOTS OF THE ITALIAN FOOD. >> YES. 116 00:11:48,581 --> 00:11:52,619 TODAY WE MAY THINK AS A BOWL OF PASTA AS THE ULTIMATE COMFORT 117 00:11:52,619 --> 00:11:55,488 FOOD BUT THERE’S A DISTINCTIVELY UNCOMFORTABLE HISTORY OF 118 00:11:55,488 --> 00:11:58,018 ITALIANS FIGHTING OPPRESSION THROUGH PASTA. 119 00:11:58,024 --> 00:12:03,730 IN THE EARLY 1930s MUSSOLINI AND HIS FASCISTS IMPOSED IMPORT BANS 120 00:12:03,730 --> 00:12:08,230 ON VARIOUS FOREIGN GOODS. THIS LED TO FOOD SHORTAGES, 121 00:12:08,234 --> 00:12:12,204 MALNUTRITION AND A LACK OF WHEAT, WHICH RAISED THE PROSPECT 122 00:12:12,205 --> 00:12:19,545 OF ITALIAN TABLES WITH NO PASTA. IN TYPICAL STYLE RATHER THAN 123 00:12:19,545 --> 00:12:23,283 LIFTING THE IMPORT BANS MUSSOLINI TRIED TO CONVINCE 124 00:12:23,283 --> 00:12:28,888 ITALIANS THAT EATING PASTA WOULD MAKE THEM WEAK, LAZY AND EVEN 125 00:12:28,888 --> 00:12:31,958 SEXUALLY IMPOTENT AND THAT A HIGH PROTEIN DIET WOULD MAKE 126 00:12:31,958 --> 00:12:34,427 THEM MORE PRODUCTIVE AND WAR‐LIKE. 127 00:12:34,427 --> 00:12:38,927 THE CAMPAIGN WAS CLEARLY NOT A SUCCESS. 128 00:12:38,931 --> 00:12:48,171 >> WHEN THE FASCISTS ARRIVED A BIG PART WAS MUS LEANY BUT 30%, 129 00:12:48,174 --> 00:12:51,978 40% IS AGAINST MUSSOLINI. >> IN FACT, PASTA ACTUALLY 130 00:12:51,978 --> 00:12:56,478 BECAME A POWERFUL SYMBOL OF THE RESISTANCE AGAINST HIS FASCIST 131 00:12:56,482 --> 00:12:58,351 REGIME. ARMED WITH THEIR GUNS AND SHEETS 132 00:12:58,351 --> 00:13:02,521 OF PASTA MANY OF THE PARTISANS WHO STOOD UP TO MUSSOLINI LIVED 133 00:13:02,522 --> 00:13:07,560 IN THESE VERY STREETS. >> AND THE GREAT AXIS RAIL YARDS 134 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:10,797 FROM WHICH TROOPS AND SUPPLIES ARE FORWARDED TO SOUTHERN 135 00:13:10,797 --> 00:13:13,257 ITALY ‐‐ >> DURING WORLD WAR II THIS AREA 136 00:13:13,266 --> 00:13:17,236 BORE THE BRUNT OF ALLIED BOMBINGS THAT AIMED TO DISRUPT 137 00:13:17,236 --> 00:13:20,136 THE NEARBY RAIL HUB. TRAGICALLY OVER 1,000 PEOPLE 138 00:13:20,139 --> 00:13:23,169 WERE KILLED. THIS IS IN ESSENCE LIKE A 139 00:13:23,176 --> 00:13:24,777 MONUMENT. >> YEAH. 140 00:13:24,777 --> 00:13:27,447 YOU CAN SEE THE EFFECTS OF THE WAR. 141 00:13:27,447 --> 00:13:36,087 PEOPLE DEAD, THE FAMILY DEAD. AND ALL THIS AREA IS BOMBED. 142 00:13:36,089 --> 00:13:40,727 >> THIS PARTICULAR SQUARE WAS HOME TO A HUGELY POPULAR 143 00:13:40,727 --> 00:13:43,857 LOCAL ‐‐ BEFORE THE WAR. THE OWNERS WIFE AND ALL BUT ONE 144 00:13:43,863 --> 00:13:48,133 OF THEIR CHILDREN DIED WHEN THE BUILDING WAS HIT DURING THE 145 00:13:48,134 --> 00:13:49,634 BOMBING. AFTER THE WAR THE LOCAL 146 00:13:49,635 --> 00:13:52,505 COMMUNITY RAISED FUNDS FOR THE SURVIVING FATHER AND SON TO 147 00:13:52,505 --> 00:13:57,110 REOPEN THE RESTAURANT AGAIN. THE BOYS STARTED WORK HERE AGED 148 00:13:57,110 --> 00:14:01,347 JUST 8. AND AMAZINGLY HE’S STILL HERE 149 00:14:01,347 --> 00:14:09,047 TODAY. >> IT’S THE STORY OF ROMAN FOOD. 150 00:14:09,055 --> 00:14:13,459 >> BEAUTIFUL. ALDO NOW RUNS THE RESTAURANT 151 00:14:13,459 --> 00:14:19,599 ALONGSIDE HIS DAUGHTER ROSANNA. PEOPLE COME ACROSS THE CITY AND 152 00:14:19,599 --> 00:14:29,569 APPARENTLY FURTHER TO ENJOY THE COMFORT OF ALDO’S FAMILY FOOD. 153 00:14:29,575 --> 00:14:33,846 SO TELL ME ABOUT CARBONARA. CARBONARA IS A ROMAN DISH, BUT 154 00:14:33,846 --> 00:14:37,116 WE DON’T KNOW WHEN IT WAS INVENTED, RIGHT? 155 00:14:37,116 --> 00:14:41,916 ONE STORY I’D ALWAYS HEARD IS THAT CARBONARA CAME ABOUT WHEN 156 00:14:41,921 --> 00:14:45,221 AMERICAN SOLDIERS IN ROME DURING THE WAR STARTED MISSING THEIR 157 00:14:45,224 --> 00:14:49,629 BACON AND EGGS BACK HOME AND WANTED THEM ADDED TO SPAGHETTI. 158 00:14:49,629 --> 00:15:08,809 ALDO, HOWEVER, HAS HIS OWN THEORY 159 00:15:08,815 --> 00:15:42,281 . >> IT SEEMS SOME THINGS ARE 160 00:15:42,281 --> 00:15:45,951 DESTINED TO REMAIN ROMAN MYTHS. WHAT EVERYONE CAN AGREE ON IS 161 00:15:45,952 --> 00:16:02,869 THAT THE CARBONARA HERE IS INCREDIBLE 162 00:16:02,869 --> 00:16:12,909 . I KNOW, I KNOW. 163 00:16:12,912 --> 00:16:19,719 YOU HAVE BASICALLY FOUR INGREDIENTS ‐‐ PASTA, EGGS, 164 00:16:19,719 --> 00:16:22,619 THE ‐‐ AND CHEESE. THAT’S IT. 165 00:16:22,622 --> 00:16:34,232 BUT WHEN I TRY IT AT HOME IT’S NEVER THIS GOOD. 166 00:16:34,233 --> 00:16:41,173 MY MOTHER DOES THAT, TOO. WHEN I TASTE PASTA LIKE THIS I 167 00:16:41,173 --> 00:16:43,809 UNDERSTAND WHY IT REMAINS SO IMPORTANT TO THE CITY. 168 00:16:43,809 --> 00:16:47,747 ROME MAY BE THE SEAT OF POWER AND RELIGION BUT IT’S 169 00:16:47,747 --> 00:16:49,307 OVERWHELMINGLY A WORKING CLASS TOWN. 170 00:16:49,315 --> 00:16:53,986 THIS IS SIMPLE FOOD THAT’S BEEN ELEVATED OVER CENTURIES BY 171 00:16:53,986 --> 00:16:57,156 PEOPLE MAKING THE BEST OF WHAT LITTLE THEY HAD AVAILABLE. 172 00:16:57,156 --> 00:17:01,386 THEY’RE RIGHTLY PROUD THAT THEIR HUMBLE FOOD HAS COME TO DEFINE 173 00:17:01,394 --> 00:17:04,734 ITALY TO T 174 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,578 >>> I’VE HEADED 5 MILES OUT OF THE CITY CENTER USING THE NEWLY 175 00:17:18,578 --> 00:17:22,648 EXTENDED METRO LINE. ROMANS HAD A REPUTATION FOR 176 00:17:22,648 --> 00:17:27,248 RESISTING CHANGE, AND THE ARRIVAL OF THE SUBWAY IN 2014 177 00:17:27,253 --> 00:17:31,023 HAS SHAKEN UP OLD, POOR NEIGHBORHOODS OF THE CITY. 178 00:17:31,023 --> 00:17:44,603 NOWHERE MORE SO THAN CENTO C CELLE. 179 00:17:44,604 --> 00:17:47,373 GENTRIFICATION IS MOVING IN ON THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOOD IS ON 180 00:17:47,373 --> 00:18:02,588 THE FRONT LINE. >> GENTOCELLE IS A ROMAN NAME. 181 00:18:02,588 --> 00:18:05,888 IT’S 100 JAIL IN ENGLISH. >> 100 JAILS? 182 00:18:05,891 --> 00:18:08,791 >> EXACTLY. >> THERE MAY NEVER HAVE ACTUALLY 183 00:18:08,794 --> 00:18:14,533 BEEN 100 JAILS HERE, BUT WHAT THIS AREA DOES HAVE IS THREE NEW 184 00:18:14,533 --> 00:18:16,302 SUBWAY STATIONS ALL IN CLOSE PROXIMITY. 185 00:18:16,302 --> 00:18:18,638 >> THIS CHANGES THE GAME. A LOT OF PEOPLE CAME HERE TO TRY 186 00:18:18,638 --> 00:18:21,707 TO INVEST A BIT. >> IS THAT WHERE WE’RE GOING? 187 00:18:21,707 --> 00:18:27,346 LET’S GO IN AND SEE. IT’S LONG HAD A ROUGH 188 00:18:27,346 --> 00:18:29,446 REPUTATION. THAT’S CHANGING FAST, THOUGH. 189 00:18:29,448 --> 00:18:33,448 AND ONE PLACE SEEN BY SOME AS GROUND ZERO FOR THE 190 00:18:33,452 --> 00:18:42,328 TRANSFORMATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS A DELI. 191 00:18:42,328 --> 00:18:45,058 HE OPENED THIS PLACE WELL BEFORE THE METRO ARRIVED. 192 00:18:45,064 --> 00:18:50,369 HE WANTED TO REHABILITATE THE SURROUNDING LAZIO’S REGION 193 00:18:50,369 --> 00:18:53,199 REPUTATION FOR FOOD AND BRING THE BEST OF THE COUNTRYSIDE BACK 194 00:18:53,205 --> 00:19:08,755 FOR HIS NEIGHBORS TO ENJOY AT FAIR PRICES. 195 00:19:21,634 --> 00:19:30,309 CAN I TASTE SOME? PEP RENO CHEESE IS MADE FROM 196 00:19:30,309 --> 00:19:34,579 SHEEPS MILK AND ROME IS FAMOUS FOR IT. 197 00:19:34,580 --> 00:19:41,820 HISTORICALLY THEY WERE RAISED AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO CROPS. 198 00:19:41,821 --> 00:19:48,661 HE SEARCHES FOR UNLIKELY PLACES FOR CHEESE THAT ALSO HELPS HIS 199 00:19:48,661 --> 00:20:07,611 COMMUNITY. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? 200 00:20:07,613 --> 00:20:11,016 OH, OKAY. ONLY IN ITALY WOULD AN ANCIENT 201 00:20:11,016 --> 00:20:28,326 CHEESE RECIPE BE SAVED BY PRISONERS. 202 00:20:30,469 --> 00:20:34,869 THAT’S DELICIOUS. AS WELL AS SHEEPS MILK CHEESE, 203 00:20:34,874 --> 00:20:40,713 PORK FINDS ITS WAY INTO ALMOST EVERY DISH I’VE HAD IN ROME. 204 00:20:40,713 --> 00:20:44,650 HISTORICALLY PIGS WERE RAISED ALL AROUND THE CITY BECAUSE THEY 205 00:20:44,650 --> 00:21:00,000 NEED LESS SPACE THAN OTHER ANIMALS. 206 00:21:08,073 --> 00:21:15,313 TO ME VINCHENZO IS DOING SOMETHING AMAZING. 207 00:21:15,314 --> 00:21:19,151 OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS ANOTHER 50 TO 60 FOOD PLACES HAVE OPENED 208 00:21:19,151 --> 00:21:33,431 UP NEARBY. 209 00:21:44,777 --> 00:21:49,377 >> ROMANS ARE RENOWNED FOR THEIR STURBEN RESISTANCE TO CHANGE. 210 00:21:49,381 --> 00:21:52,151 I GUESS IT’S WHAT’S KEPT THE CITY STANDING FOR CENTURIES. 211 00:21:52,151 --> 00:21:56,721 BUT HE WANTS TO SHOW ME ANOTHER AFF 212 00:21:56,722 --> 00:21:59,491 CAFE IN THE AREA, ONE OF MANY THAT HAS OPENED IN RECENT YEARS. 213 00:21:59,491 --> 00:22:13,701 I WASN’T FULLY PREPARED FOR WHAT WE FOUND. 214 00:22:13,706 --> 00:22:17,643 >> IT’S HARD TO IMAGINE BUT A FEW MONTHS AGO THIS PLACE WAS A 215 00:22:17,643 --> 00:22:30,923 THRIVING CAFE AND BOOKSHOP CALLED THE ELECTRIC SHEEP. 216 00:22:30,923 --> 00:22:38,263 ON THE NIGHT OF APRIL 25, 2019, HER CAFE WAS FIRE BOMBED. 217 00:22:38,264 --> 00:22:41,467 SHE SET ABOUT REBUILDING HER BUSINESS, BUT SHOCKINGLY THE 218 00:22:41,467 --> 00:22:48,167 NIGHT BEFORE SHE WAS DUE TO REOPEN THE ATTACKERS STRUCK 219 00:22:48,173 --> 00:22:54,680 AGAIN. THREE LOCAL BUSINESSES HAVE NOW 220 00:22:54,680 --> 00:23:00,150 BEEN ATTACKED LIKE THIS HERE INCLUDING A PIZZA PLACE AND THIS 221 00:23:00,152 --> 00:23:02,452 JAZZ BAR. THE POLICE STILL HAVEN’T FOUND 222 00:23:02,454 --> 00:23:06,492 WHO’S RESPONSIBLE. BECAUSE SHE HOSTED COMMUNITY 223 00:23:06,492 --> 00:23:10,862 EVENTS AT THE CAFE INCLUDING ANTI‐FASCIST TALKS SUSPICION HAS 224 00:23:10,863 --> 00:23:14,033 FALLEN ON THE FAR‐RIGHT. BUT OTHERS HERE BLAME LOCAL 225 00:23:14,033 --> 00:23:20,572 CRIMINALS PROTECTING THEIR OLD TURF OR EVEN ANTI‐GENTRIFICATION 226 00:23:20,572 --> 00:23:22,041 CAMPAIGNERS. IS THIS HAPPENING IN OTHER PARTS 227 00:23:22,041 --> 00:23:38,290 OF ROME, TOO? >> NO. 228 00:23:38,290 --> 00:23:41,527 >> WHEN CHANGE HAPPENS, ROMANS RESIST. 229 00:23:41,527 --> 00:23:44,827 BUT WHOEVER DID THIS HAS MADE IT DANGEROUS TO SELL FOOD. 230 00:23:44,830 --> 00:23:52,470 IT SEEMS BRUTAL TO ATTACK RESTAURANTS AND 231 00:24:01,647 --> 00:24:08,687 >>> TUCKED IN A CURVE OF THE RIVER TIBUR IS ‐‐ ONCE KNOWN AS 232 00:24:08,687 --> 00:24:12,157 THE BELLY OF ROME. HOME TO THE OLD SLAUGHTERHOUSE 233 00:24:12,157 --> 00:24:15,487 THAT SUPPLIED 19th AND 20th CENTURY ROMANS WITH MEAT. 234 00:24:15,494 --> 00:24:19,898 SO TELL ME ABOUT THIS PLACE. >> THIS IS THE RETIRED 235 00:24:19,898 --> 00:24:22,228 SLAUGHTERHOUSE. AND FOR ABOUT 100 YEARS UNTIL 236 00:24:22,234 --> 00:24:26,839 THE 1970s IT’S WHERE MOST LARGE ROMAN ANIMALS WERE SLAUGHTERED 237 00:24:26,839 --> 00:24:30,309 BASICALLY FROM LAMBS ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH STEER. 238 00:24:30,309 --> 00:24:33,639 >> THIS FOUR‐SQUARE MILE SITE WILL BE REDEVELOPED INTO A 239 00:24:33,645 --> 00:24:37,783 CULTURAL AREA, BUT FOR NOW SIGNS OF ITS FORMER LIFE ARE 240 00:24:37,783 --> 00:24:41,587 EVERYWHERE. AND WHERE IS THE ‐‐ OH, YEAH, 241 00:24:41,587 --> 00:24:45,017 THE TRACKS FOR THE CARCASSES, YEAH. 242 00:24:45,024 --> 00:24:49,461 KATEY IS A REKNOWN FOOD WRITER WHO SWAPPED NEW JERSEY FOR ROME 243 00:24:49,461 --> 00:24:56,101 ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO. >> SKINNING HAPPENED THERE. 244 00:24:56,101 --> 00:25:01,071 IT’S AN ORGANIZED PLACE WITH SO MANY PAVILIONS COVERING A VAST 245 00:25:01,073 --> 00:25:04,777 AREA AND REALLY INFLUENCING THE TYPES OF FOODS THAT WOULD BE 246 00:25:04,777 --> 00:25:15,047 EATEN JUST ACROSS THE STREET AT THE LATE 19th AND EARLY 20th 247 00:25:15,054 --> 00:25:17,556 CENTURY. >> IN BUTCHERY THE ANIMAL IS 248 00:25:17,556 --> 00:25:22,326 QUARTERED, AND THOSE CUTS WENT STRAIGHT UP TO THE UPPER AND 249 00:25:22,327 --> 00:25:25,657 MIDDLE CLASS KITCHENS. EVERYTHING LEFTOVER, THE BLOOD, 250 00:25:25,664 --> 00:25:31,103 BRAINS AND INTESTINES WAS CALLED THE QUINTO QUARTO, THE FIFTH 251 00:25:31,103 --> 00:25:33,672 QUARTER. AND THOSE WERE LEFT TO THE POOR. 252 00:25:33,672 --> 00:25:41,747 SOME WORKERS WERE EVEN PAID INSTEAD OF MONEY, SO THEY HAD 253 00:25:41,747 --> 00:25:48,347 LITTLE CHOICE BUT TO MAKE THE BEST OF IT. 254 00:25:48,353 --> 00:25:56,493 SANTO PALATO. IF YOU KNOW HOW TO COOK AWFO YOU 255 00:25:56,495 --> 00:26:01,133 CAN TURN THE POOREST INTO THE RICHERS OF DISHES. 256 00:26:01,133 --> 00:26:05,203 AND KATEY WANTS ME TO MEET A YOUNG CHEF WITH A GROWING 257 00:26:05,204 --> 00:26:12,978 REPUTATION FOR DOING AMAZING THINGS WITH INNARDS. 258 00:26:12,978 --> 00:26:16,678 >> SHE’S GOING TO MAKE A FRITATTA FOR US, AND IT’S TOPPED 259 00:26:16,682 --> 00:26:20,052 WITH CHICKEN INNARDS. >> SO EVERYTHING WE FOCUS ON 260 00:26:20,052 --> 00:26:41,106 HERE IN THE RESTAURANT IS AWFO. ONE EGG PER PERSON, OKAY. 261 00:26:41,106 --> 00:26:45,006 THROUGHOUT IT DAY, HAVE IT FOR BREAKFAST, LUNCH, DINNER? 262 00:26:45,010 --> 00:26:49,710 >> YEAH, I LIKE IT A SANDWICH. >> THAT’S WHAT I USED TO TAKE 263 00:26:49,715 --> 00:26:54,153 WHEN I WAS A KID TO SCHOOL. >> THE CHEF GAVE UP MEDICAL 264 00:26:54,153 --> 00:27:11,270 SCHOOL TO PURSUE HER DREAM OF OPENING A RESTAURANT. 265 00:27:11,270 --> 00:27:25,117 >> THE STOMACH, THE HEART AND THE LIVER. 266 00:27:25,117 --> 00:27:33,417 >> IN ROME YOU FIND RICOTTA AND CHICKEN ORGANS SEPARATELY, BUT 267 00:27:33,425 --> 00:27:48,045 SHE’S COMBINED THEM. 268 00:27:50,976 --> 00:27:53,845 SMELL IT. DON’T FORGET ABOUT THIS BREAD. 269 00:27:53,845 --> 00:27:59,585 >> WOW, YEAH. NICE AND HOT, TOO. 270 00:27:59,585 --> 00:28:02,321 THAT’S GREAT. >> THANK YOU. 271 00:28:02,321 --> 00:28:06,258 >> THAT IS GREAT. >> THIS IS REALLY SPECIAL. 272 00:28:06,258 --> 00:28:09,288 AND I THINK IT’S A REALLY GOOD DEMONSTRATION OF WHAT SARAH DOES 273 00:28:09,294 --> 00:28:12,831 REALLY WELL, WHICH IS TAKING ROMAN CLASSIC FLAVORS AND 274 00:28:12,831 --> 00:28:17,631 COMBINING THEM IN A WAY THAT’S NEW BUT NOT REVOLUTIONARY OR 275 00:28:17,636 --> 00:28:22,975 EXTRA CONTEMPORARY. THEY JUST MAKE SENSE TODAY. 276 00:28:22,975 --> 00:28:25,744 >> WE TAKE A SEAT IN THE DINING ROOM. 277 00:28:25,744 --> 00:28:40,524 WHAT’S THAT? IS A REALLY UNUSUAL TEXTURE, 278 00:28:40,525 --> 00:28:48,667 TOO, ISN’T IT? SO BREAK DOWN WHAT THE AWFO ARE 279 00:28:48,667 --> 00:28:56,337 HEART, LIVER, STOMACH, TONGUE, BRAINS, SNOUT, INTESTINES. 280 00:28:56,341 --> 00:28:59,341 >> THE WHOLE HEAD REALLY IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT. 281 00:28:59,344 --> 00:29:04,283 >> IF PASTA IS THE FIRST PILLAR OF ROMAN FOOD THE ASTONISHING 282 00:29:04,283 --> 00:29:07,919 USE OF AWFO IS DEFINITELY THE SECOND. 283 00:29:07,919 --> 00:29:13,158 SOMEHOW POOR ROMANS TURNED THESE UNPROMISING CUTS INTO SHEER 284 00:29:13,158 --> 00:29:28,038 CULINARY POETRY. 285 00:29:29,841 --> 00:29:33,511 I LOVE OXTAIL. >> I’M SO INTO IT. 286 00:29:33,512 --> 00:29:41,552 >> THAT’S REALLY GOOD. >> AND THIS IS DEFINITELY A MORE 287 00:29:41,553 --> 00:29:43,722 CARNIVOROUS CITY THAN A FISH CITY. 288 00:29:43,722 --> 00:29:46,758 EVEN THOUGH WE’RE 15 MILES FROM THE SEA, THAT WAS REALLY, REALLY 289 00:29:46,758 --> 00:29:51,296 FAR IN PRE‐1970 STANDARDS BEFORE ICE AND REFRIGERATION. 290 00:29:51,296 --> 00:29:54,356 >> YEAH. >> SO THIS IS THAT HONEYCOMB 291 00:29:54,366 --> 00:29:58,570 TRIBE WITH ALL THOSE BEAUTIFUL POCKETS, LOTS OF NICE STOMACH 292 00:29:58,570 --> 00:30:01,370 GEOMETRY GOING ON. >> I’VE NEVER HEARD IT DESCRIBED 293 00:30:01,373 --> 00:30:09,081 AS STOMACH JEGEOMETRY. THAT IS REALLY GOOD. 294 00:30:09,081 --> 00:30:18,690 >> IT’S BOILED MULTIPLE TIMES AND CLEANED MANY TIMES WITH 295 00:30:18,690 --> 00:30:23,528 TOMATO AND MINT. GO TO ANOTHER PLACE WHERE IT’S 296 00:30:23,528 --> 00:30:26,628 INCLUDED AND IT’S PREPARED DIFFERENTLY. 297 00:30:26,631 --> 00:30:30,301 >> STEWED STOMACH MAY NOT SOUND APPEALING, I KNOW, BUT BELIEVE 298 00:30:30,302 --> 00:30:33,802 ME THESE ARE REALLY TASTY FLAVORS. 299 00:30:33,805 --> 00:30:36,641 THE ROMAN POOR DIDN’T HAVE MUCH TO WORK WITH, BUT AGAINST THE 300 00:30:36,641 --> 00:30:40,541 ODDS THEY WOUND UP MAKING SOME OF THE VERY BEST FOOD IN THE 301 00:30:40,545 --> 00:30:44,985 CITY. WHAT CAN I SAY? 302 00:30:55,026 --> 00:31:09,236 ♪ 303 00:31:12,477 --> 00:31:15,407 >>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. 304 00:31:15,414 --> 00:31:18,917 WE’RE HERE IN ROME, AND IT’S THE MOST WONDERFUL TIME OF THE YEAR. 305 00:31:18,917 --> 00:31:26,987 NO, IT’S NOT CHRISTMAS. IT’S ARTICHOKE SEASON. 306 00:31:26,992 --> 00:31:30,128 RIGHT NOW MARKETS ACROSS THE CITY ARE HUMMING WITH THE SOUND 307 00:31:30,128 --> 00:31:37,398 OF PEOPLE HACKING AWAY AT ROME’S FAVORITE VEGETABLE. 308 00:31:37,402 --> 00:31:41,907 SO SHOW ME THE ARTICHOKES. AS I’VE BEEN FINDING OUT WITH 309 00:31:41,907 --> 00:31:45,777 ROMAN FOOD YOU SOMETIMES HAVE TO DIG A LITTLE TO GET TO THE GOOD 310 00:31:45,777 --> 00:31:55,086 STUFF. SO THIS IS WHERE THE ‐‐ 311 00:31:55,086 --> 00:31:59,416 ONCE TRIMMED THEY CAN BE DEEP FRIED TO MAKE ONE OF MY ALL‐TIME 312 00:31:59,424 --> 00:32:05,263 FAVORITE ROMAN FOODS, JEWISH FRIED ARTICHOKES. 313 00:32:05,263 --> 00:32:08,400 YOU KNOW, MY GRANDMOTHER AND MY MOTHER WOULD MAKE THESE. 314 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,070 ASK ANYONE HERE AND THEY’LL TELL YOU THIS WEIRD LOOKING VEGETABLE 315 00:32:12,070 --> 00:32:17,240 IS A DEFINITIVE ROMAN FOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. 316 00:32:17,242 --> 00:32:21,580 BUT WHAT I LOVE IS THAT UNDER THOSE ROUGH OUTER LEAVES IT 317 00:32:21,580 --> 00:32:27,250 CONTAINS AN ENTIRE HISTORY, A STORY OF HOW SOCIETY’S OUTCASTS 318 00:32:27,252 --> 00:32:33,859 CAN CHANGE THE HABITS OF AN ENTIRE CITY. 319 00:32:33,859 --> 00:32:38,859 THESE PICTURESQUE RUINS ONCE CONTAINED THE MISERY OF ROME’S 320 00:32:38,864 --> 00:32:43,368 JEWISH GHETTO. FROM 1500s ONWARDS THE CITY’S 321 00:32:43,368 --> 00:32:46,538 ENTIRE JEWISH COMMUNITY WAS LOCKED IN THIS WALLED AREA. 322 00:32:46,538 --> 00:32:52,308 ONLY ALLOWED TO LEAVE TO DO MENIAL JOBS IN THE DAYTIME 323 00:32:52,310 --> 00:33:07,560 BEFORE BEING LOCKED IN AT NIGHT. 324 00:33:20,939 --> 00:33:29,779 SHE’S IN HER 80s AND HAS LIVED HERE HER WHOLE LIFE. 325 00:33:29,781 --> 00:33:35,051 WHEN THE NAZIS SEIZED ROME IN OCTOBER 1943, THE GHETTO WAS A 326 00:33:35,053 --> 00:33:40,692 SITTING TARGET. AND ITS 1,204 RESIDENTS WERE 327 00:33:40,692 --> 00:33:48,099 SENT TO THE GAS CHAMBERS. ITALIA WAS JUST A HANDFUL WHO 328 00:33:48,099 --> 00:33:51,329 ESCAPED WHEN HER GRANDFATHER HID HER OUTSIDE THE CITY. 329 00:33:51,336 --> 00:33:57,709 FOR THE FEW WHO SURVIVED FOOD BECAME A VITAL LINK BACK TO 330 00:33:57,709 --> 00:34:00,509 THEIR PAST. THE JEWS OF ROME HAD LIVED IN 331 00:34:00,512 --> 00:34:03,312 POVERTY FOR CENTURIES AND WERE FORCED TO RELY ON THE CHEAPEST 332 00:34:03,315 --> 00:34:20,832 OF INGREDIENTS 333 00:34:20,832 --> 00:34:27,402 . >> USING TYPICAL ROMAN 334 00:34:27,405 --> 00:34:31,209 INVENTIVENESS THE JEWS TRANSFORMED UNLOVED INGREDIENTS 335 00:34:31,209 --> 00:34:36,579 LIKE ANCHOVIES, EGGPLANTS AND ARTICHOKES INTO DISHES THAT 336 00:34:36,581 --> 00:34:39,618 ENTIRE CITY WOULD EVENTUALLY TAKE TO ITS HEART. 337 00:34:39,618 --> 00:34:47,658 ALONGSIDE PASTA AND OFFAL THE INFLUENCE OF JEWISH COOKING IS 338 00:34:47,659 --> 00:35:05,377 THE THIRD PILLAR OF JEWISH CUISINE TODAY. 339 00:35:05,377 --> 00:35:11,916 IN THIS KITCHEN ITALIA AND HER TEAM RAISE THE HUMBLE ARTICHOKE 340 00:35:11,916 --> 00:35:32,366 INTO FOOD FOR THE AGES 341 00:35:32,370 --> 00:35:43,748 . THAT WAS DONE YESTERDAY, COOKED 342 00:35:43,748 --> 00:35:45,578 IN THE OIL, AND REFRIGERATED. ALL RIGHT, WE’RE SPREADING OUT 343 00:35:45,583 --> 00:35:53,758 THE LEAVES. THEY’RE PRE‐COOKED. 344 00:35:53,758 --> 00:36:06,898 LOOK AT HOW BEAUTIFUL THAT IS. 345 00:36:15,180 --> 00:36:22,287 >> THAT’S THE BEST ONE I’VE HAD. THAT IS DELICIOUS. 346 00:36:22,287 --> 00:36:25,557 IT’S SO ADDICTIVE. IT’S LIKE EATING CANDY. 347 00:36:25,557 --> 00:36:32,227 YOU JUST CAN’T STOP. IT’S SO CRISPY. 348 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:49,948 >> PEOPLE LOVE IT, YEAH. THIS DISH TELLS A STORY. 349 00:36:49,948 --> 00:36:52,648 IT HAS SURVIVED THE DARKEST OF TIMES. 350 00:36:52,650 --> 00:36:56,050 AND LINKS US TO A PAST THAT WAS ALMOST WIPED OUT. 351 00:36:56,054 --> 00:37:01,893 TO ME, IT’S A TYPE OF HISTORICAL MONUMENT IN ITALIAN COOKING. 352 00:37:01,893 --> 00:37:05,663 NOW BELOVED BY 353 00:37:12,971 --> 00:37:18,241 >>> IT’S MY LAST NIGHT IN ROME. DURING MY TIME HERE, I’VE 354 00:37:18,243 --> 00:37:22,280 LEARNED THAT ABOVE ALL ELSE, FOOD IN ITALY IS ABOUT WHO YOU 355 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:28,920 ARE AND WHERE YOU’RE FROM. BUT WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE YOU IF 356 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:34,590 YOU’RE AN OUTSIDER? I’VE COME TO BISTRO 64, A 357 00:37:34,592 --> 00:37:41,299 RESTAURANT THAT HAS WON A MICHELIN STAR. 358 00:37:41,299 --> 00:37:48,606 THE CHEF IS AN OUT OF TOWNER, BUT HE’S NOT FROM NAPLES OR 359 00:37:48,606 --> 00:37:51,266 MILAN. HE’S FROM JAPAN. 360 00:37:51,276 --> 00:37:52,177 STANLEY. >> NICE TO MEET YOU. 361 00:37:52,177 --> 00:37:58,547 >> NICE TO MEET YOU, TOO. >> HE WAS LURED HERE 20 YEARS 362 00:37:58,550 --> 00:38:09,090 AGO BY HIS OBSESSION WITH THE FLAVORS OF ITALIAN CUISINE. 363 00:38:16,434 --> 00:38:19,737 >> HIS FOOD HAS WON PRAISE FOR ITS CREATIVITY. 364 00:38:19,737 --> 00:38:25,337 BUT TONIGHT, HE’S MAKING THE SIMPLEST ROMAN CLASSIC, ONE OF 365 00:38:25,343 --> 00:38:32,951 THE FAMOUS FOUR PASTAS. LITERALLY, CHEESE AND PEPPER. 366 00:38:32,951 --> 00:38:36,821 THERE ARE JUST THREE MAIN INGREDIENTS, BUT IT TAKES GREAT 367 00:38:36,821 --> 00:38:42,961 SKILL TO MAKE THIS ROMAN FAVORITE PERFECT. 368 00:38:53,204 --> 00:39:01,854 >> OF COURSE, ANOTHER ITALIAN KITCHEN SECRET. 369 00:39:27,171 --> 00:39:35,611 >> COULD TAKE A WHILE. 370 00:39:39,684 --> 00:39:44,822 >> I KNOW YOU MAY BE THINKING THIS IS LUDICROUSLY SIMPLE FOOD. 371 00:39:44,822 --> 00:39:46,457 BUT BELIEVE ME, IT’S EXTRAORDINARY. 372 00:39:46,457 --> 00:39:51,327 AND DON’T JUST TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. 373 00:39:51,329 --> 00:39:52,096 WHERE IS KAREN? KAREN? 374 00:39:52,096 --> 00:39:56,526 COME HERE. OKAY. 375 00:39:56,534 --> 00:39:58,770 >> OKAY. >> THIS IS KAREN, WHO WORKS WITH 376 00:39:58,770 --> 00:40:00,570 US. ONE OF THE PRODUCERS. 377 00:40:00,571 --> 00:40:03,071 SHE’S FROM ROME. YOU TELL US WHAT YOU THINK. 378 00:40:03,074 --> 00:40:06,244 >> OKAY. >> GO AHEAD, NO PRESSURE, NO 379 00:40:06,244 --> 00:40:09,247 PRESSURE. HE’S NOT NERVOUS AT ALL. 380 00:40:09,247 --> 00:40:18,417 HE DOESN’T CARE ABOUT OUR OPINION. 381 00:40:18,423 --> 00:40:21,592 >> IT’S DIVINE. YES, IT’S SO GOOD. 382 00:40:21,592 --> 00:40:24,929 IT’S PERFECTLY CREAMY. NOT TOO INTENSE, NOT OVERLOADED 383 00:40:24,929 --> 00:40:28,599 WITH FLAVOR. >> YEAH. 384 00:40:28,599 --> 00:40:31,999 >> AND HE REALLY RESPECTS, YOU KNOW, HOW IT WOULD BE COOKED IN 385 00:40:32,003 --> 00:40:37,573 A FAMILY. 386 00:40:49,554 --> 00:40:53,824 >> THERE’S ALWAYS A SECRET. >> THERE’S ALWAYS A SECRET, YES. 387 00:40:53,825 --> 00:40:58,863 WHEN IT COMES TO FOOD, ROMAN KNOW WHAT THEY LIKE, AND LIKE 388 00:40:58,863 --> 00:41:03,301 WHAT THEY KNOW. BEYOND HIS MASTERFUL TAKE ON 389 00:41:03,301 --> 00:41:10,308 CLASSICS, IT’S ALSO FULL OF INCREDIBLE INNOVATIONS. 390 00:41:10,308 --> 00:41:13,478 FROM SWEET BREADS TO PLUM GELATO. 391 00:41:13,478 --> 00:41:21,518 I WAS CURIOUS HOW THE CITY HAS TAKEN TO HIS INNOVATIONS. 392 00:41:37,035 --> 00:41:42,073 >> THE DOWNSIDE OF ROME BEING SO STEEPED IN HISTORY IS THAT 393 00:41:42,073 --> 00:41:47,343 SOMETIMES GREAT THINGS ARE RE RESISTED BECAUSE THEY’RE NEW, 394 00:41:47,345 --> 00:41:50,381 AND NOT WHAT PEOPLE ARE USED TO. MISSING FOOD THIS GOOD IS A REAL 395 00:41:50,381 --> 00:41:52,116 SHAME. I’M SORRY. 396 00:41:52,116 --> 00:41:57,616 BUT HERE’S THE THING. THE ONE THING ROMANS CAN’T 397 00:41:57,622 --> 00:42:02,362 RESIST IS A GOOD MEAL. AND I’M HOPEFUL THAT SOON HIS 35466

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