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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:16,625 --> 00:00:21,064 - [Hal] We did it, did it again. 2 00:00:25,938 --> 00:00:29,942 That was a good show, good audience, yeah. 3 00:00:31,857 --> 00:00:33,207 They were really thinking. 4 00:00:36,123 --> 00:00:37,123 You always hope 5 00:00:38,951 --> 00:00:41,867 maybe you can make peoplethink a little bit. 6 00:00:51,660 --> 00:00:53,401 These crazy new bulbs, 7 00:00:54,924 --> 00:00:56,143 they know what you're doing. 8 00:00:58,101 --> 00:01:01,887 You can't let in any air in these places. 9 00:01:07,763 --> 00:01:09,721 This is my tour book. 10 00:01:09,765 --> 00:01:14,596 For about three years. 11 00:01:14,639 --> 00:01:16,467 I get about three years in here, 12 00:01:16,511 --> 00:01:17,686 two or three. 13 00:01:23,866 --> 00:01:25,476 Before I played this show, 14 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,831 I went back to when I did the show here, 15 00:01:33,919 --> 00:01:35,791 the last two times. 16 00:01:37,097 --> 00:01:39,969 2009, 2006, 17 00:01:47,803 --> 00:01:49,631 and 2000 and, 2000. 18 00:01:52,199 --> 00:01:53,983 I figure everybody's dead by then, 19 00:01:54,026 --> 00:01:55,854 so it doesn't matter so 20 00:01:55,898 --> 00:01:57,204 tonight when I did the show, 21 00:01:57,247 --> 00:02:00,903 I had to avoid must of the stuff 22 00:02:00,946 --> 00:02:02,948 that I did in these three shows. 23 00:02:04,167 --> 00:02:06,865 Okay did, what did I do? 24 00:02:08,476 --> 00:02:10,130 Whiskey Reform Tax, 25 00:02:12,175 --> 00:02:13,524 morals, 26 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,923 very strange concept for Congress to have morals. 27 00:02:22,403 --> 00:02:24,970 Sherburn and Boggs, 28 00:02:26,146 --> 00:02:27,147 from Huck. 29 00:02:28,539 --> 00:02:31,151 That was my first Huckleberry number, 30 00:02:32,456 --> 00:02:34,632 58 years ago. 31 00:02:34,676 --> 00:02:37,983 I tried the new thing about drinks. 32 00:02:38,027 --> 00:02:39,028 I screwed it up. 33 00:02:40,595 --> 00:02:43,554 Two drinks and one deliriumtreatment, I screwed it up. 34 00:02:44,860 --> 00:02:48,820 Election madness, that's my new piece I put on 35 00:02:48,864 --> 00:02:53,042 this past year, and I keepadding little bombs to it. 36 00:02:54,478 --> 00:02:58,439 Once I started in to patriotismon that thing tonight, 37 00:02:58,482 --> 00:03:01,442 the audience went quiet as 38 00:03:02,965 --> 00:03:04,184 frightened to death. 39 00:03:05,794 --> 00:03:07,883 Once you start messing around with ideas, 40 00:03:07,926 --> 00:03:09,798 like patriotism, 41 00:03:09,841 --> 00:03:11,713 it scares the audience. 42 00:03:11,756 --> 00:03:12,931 They think, oh my. 43 00:03:13,976 --> 00:03:15,195 He might say something 44 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,244 I don't agree with, and they get scared. 45 00:03:21,288 --> 00:03:24,247 But that's one way to holdan audience's attention 46 00:03:24,291 --> 00:03:25,291 is to scare them. 47 00:03:28,338 --> 00:03:31,907 [light orchestral music] 48 00:04:05,332 --> 00:04:06,420 Ladies and gentlemen, 49 00:04:08,857 --> 00:04:12,164 I wish to present you aman whose great learning, 50 00:04:12,991 --> 00:04:15,603 and veneration for truth, 51 00:04:15,646 --> 00:04:19,302 are only exceeded by his high moral character, 52 00:04:20,695 --> 00:04:22,262 and majestic presence. 53 00:04:23,828 --> 00:04:28,093 I refer in these vague general terms to myself. 54 00:04:28,137 --> 00:04:30,313 [audience laughing] 55 00:04:30,357 --> 00:04:32,489 I remember once saying to our pastor 56 00:04:32,533 --> 00:04:34,404 that I hoped to be cremated, 57 00:04:35,666 --> 00:04:37,059 and he just looked at me and said, 58 00:04:37,102 --> 00:04:39,975 oh I wouldn't worry aboutthat, if I had your chances. 59 00:04:40,802 --> 00:04:42,325 [audience laughing] 60 00:04:42,369 --> 00:04:43,979 I'm not lying to you. 61 00:04:44,022 --> 00:04:47,243 I don't tell lies, I differfrom George Washington. 62 00:04:48,679 --> 00:04:51,726 I have a higher and granderstandard of principle. 63 00:04:52,857 --> 00:04:54,859 George could not tell a lie, 64 00:04:54,903 --> 00:04:56,905 I can, but I won't. 65 00:04:56,948 --> 00:04:59,864 [audience laughing] 66 00:05:01,083 --> 00:05:04,129 I come in in 1835, with Haley's Comet. 67 00:05:07,132 --> 00:05:09,004 It's coming again pretty soon, 68 00:05:09,047 --> 00:05:11,354 and I expect to go out with it. 69 00:05:11,398 --> 00:05:14,183 It'll be the greatestdisappointment of my life, 70 00:05:14,226 --> 00:05:17,142 if I don't go out with Haley's Comet. 71 00:05:17,186 --> 00:05:19,057 The Almighty has said, no doubt, 72 00:05:19,101 --> 00:05:22,409 now here are these two unaccountable freaks. 73 00:05:24,019 --> 00:05:27,065 They come in together, they must go out together. 74 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:29,764 I'm looking forward to that, 75 00:05:29,807 --> 00:05:31,331 well thank you and goodnight. 76 00:05:32,375 --> 00:05:35,552 [audience applauding] 77 00:05:50,741 --> 00:05:53,091 [exhaling] 78 00:06:12,676 --> 00:06:14,306 - [Interviewer] How long have you been doing this 79 00:06:14,330 --> 00:06:15,549 morning routine? 80 00:06:18,116 --> 00:06:20,249 - Oh, probably four or five years now. 81 00:06:21,642 --> 00:06:24,384 I was on the road all thetime, heaving trunks around, 82 00:06:24,427 --> 00:06:27,125 and I'd throw my back out. 83 00:06:27,169 --> 00:06:29,911 Once in New Mexico, theyhad to get a chiropractor 84 00:06:29,954 --> 00:06:32,479 in backstage and put me on a grand piano, 85 00:06:33,741 --> 00:06:35,438 and grabbed me and, 86 00:06:35,482 --> 00:06:38,136 jerked me into place, and I almost fainted. 87 00:06:38,180 --> 00:06:39,355 Oh, I love this. 88 00:06:39,399 --> 00:06:41,966 When I get down here I don't want to get up. 89 00:06:52,281 --> 00:06:54,588 I can't just bound out of a chair anymore, 90 00:06:54,631 --> 00:06:56,241 it's very discouraging to me. 91 00:06:59,027 --> 00:07:01,595 Sometimes I put my hand on the side of a chair 92 00:07:01,638 --> 00:07:03,597 and help myself up, that's terrible. 93 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:06,120 It's awful. 94 00:07:13,128 --> 00:07:15,130 I feel if you gave way to it, 95 00:07:15,173 --> 00:07:17,524 you wouldn't be able to getout of the chair at all. 96 00:07:36,325 --> 00:07:39,197 - I don't know how many ofthese boxes Hal has used. 97 00:07:40,198 --> 00:07:43,941 He built the first one himself, 98 00:07:43,985 --> 00:07:45,377 and it's self-contained. 99 00:07:45,421 --> 00:07:48,555 Everything is in theseboxes that makes Mark Twain. 100 00:07:52,776 --> 00:07:55,866 Hal never uses a dressing room, 101 00:07:57,085 --> 00:07:59,130 like a star dressing room in a theater, 102 00:07:59,174 --> 00:08:01,176 with fancy counters and everything, 103 00:08:01,219 --> 00:08:03,613 because one, he knows where everything is. 104 00:08:04,919 --> 00:08:08,183 Two, he needs to use acetone 105 00:08:08,226 --> 00:08:10,185 for some of the makeup, 106 00:08:11,447 --> 00:08:14,972 and that has a tendency to screw up counters, 107 00:08:15,016 --> 00:08:17,714 and melt them, depending onwhat they made them out of. 108 00:08:20,412 --> 00:08:22,414 So, everything he uses, 109 00:08:23,807 --> 00:08:27,594 except the costume, whichis the other half of this, 110 00:08:27,637 --> 00:08:29,726 is in this box. 111 00:08:31,336 --> 00:08:34,165 The wig, which fortunatelywe don't use right now, 112 00:08:35,558 --> 00:08:37,212 light bulb in his shoes. 113 00:08:39,170 --> 00:08:41,521 And this is the onlylight he uses to make up. 114 00:08:42,739 --> 00:08:46,351 Because he is very much a creature of habit, 115 00:08:46,395 --> 00:08:48,745 everything is in its right place. 116 00:08:50,051 --> 00:08:51,419 - [Interviewer] What happens when it's wrong? 117 00:08:51,443 --> 00:08:52,444 - He screams. 118 00:08:54,359 --> 00:08:57,319 I can't think of anybody else 119 00:08:59,190 --> 00:09:00,190 that I know, 120 00:09:01,453 --> 00:09:03,301 or know of, that does theamount of performances 121 00:09:03,325 --> 00:09:04,325 he does a year, 122 00:09:05,849 --> 00:09:06,894 at that age. 123 00:09:09,636 --> 00:09:10,767 I also think, 124 00:09:12,421 --> 00:09:14,423 if Hal stopped working, he would die. 125 00:09:16,033 --> 00:09:18,340 It's his life. 126 00:09:21,648 --> 00:09:25,260 - I met Ruby Johnston, my first wife, 127 00:09:26,566 --> 00:09:28,176 in Newfoundland. 128 00:09:28,219 --> 00:09:31,309 We got married in a littlechurch around the corner, 129 00:09:31,353 --> 00:09:32,852 in New York, and then we went to Denison. 130 00:09:32,876 --> 00:09:35,487 I had already put a year in there, 131 00:09:35,531 --> 00:09:37,794 so I had three years to go, 132 00:09:37,838 --> 00:09:39,622 and Ruby had never been to college. 133 00:09:39,666 --> 00:09:42,190 The beginning of my senior year, 134 00:09:43,060 --> 00:09:44,322 our teacher, Ed Wright, 135 00:09:44,366 --> 00:09:46,977 he was at a convention in Ohio, 136 00:09:47,021 --> 00:09:50,459 and a school assemblybooker from Dallas, Texas, 137 00:09:50,502 --> 00:09:52,940 named Harry Bird Cline, 138 00:09:52,983 --> 00:09:56,639 said to Ed, our teacher, 139 00:09:56,683 --> 00:09:58,598 Ed you got some kids down there 140 00:09:58,641 --> 00:10:02,210 at that school of yours, can do drama? 141 00:10:04,212 --> 00:10:06,257 And Ed said, well, 142 00:10:06,301 --> 00:10:08,303 yes I do, I have a young couple 143 00:10:08,346 --> 00:10:11,219 who's gonna be the next Lunt and Fontanne. 144 00:10:11,262 --> 00:10:12,437 He didn't know who that was. 145 00:10:12,481 --> 00:10:13,569 Said, uh huh. 146 00:10:13,613 --> 00:10:16,006 Well, what do they do? 147 00:10:16,050 --> 00:10:18,400 Well, they have a show, you know. 148 00:10:18,443 --> 00:10:19,444 Well what's it like? 149 00:10:19,488 --> 00:10:21,403 I mean, it has to be educational. 150 00:10:21,446 --> 00:10:23,144 He said, oh it's educational. 151 00:10:24,493 --> 00:10:27,452 They do Shakespeare, theydo a scene from Hamlet. 152 00:10:27,496 --> 00:10:30,412 They do something with Elizabeth in Essex, 153 00:10:30,455 --> 00:10:33,067 and the Robert andElizabeth Barrett Browning, 154 00:10:33,110 --> 00:10:34,416 Mark Twain. 155 00:10:34,459 --> 00:10:37,462 He made up this showright there on the street. 156 00:10:37,506 --> 00:10:38,768 How long is it? 157 00:10:38,812 --> 00:10:40,335 Well it can be as long as you want it. 158 00:10:40,378 --> 00:10:41,292 Well we need 50 minutes. 159 00:10:41,336 --> 00:10:43,512 I can be 50 minutes. 160 00:10:43,555 --> 00:10:45,296 Well, do you think they would be interested? 161 00:10:45,340 --> 00:10:46,994 I think they might. 162 00:10:47,037 --> 00:10:49,997 Well I can pay 'em 210 dollars a week, 163 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,304 and 15 dollars a week for gas and oil. 164 00:10:53,348 --> 00:10:55,611 And I can give them 30 weeks on the road, 165 00:10:55,655 --> 00:10:58,179 next year when they get out of school. 166 00:10:58,222 --> 00:11:01,399 So Ed came back, and gave us this offer, 167 00:11:01,443 --> 00:11:02,966 and we took it. 168 00:11:03,010 --> 00:11:05,534 So he gave me this piece, 169 00:11:05,577 --> 00:11:07,362 An Encounter with an Interviewer, 170 00:11:07,405 --> 00:11:08,668 written by Mark Twain. 171 00:11:10,495 --> 00:11:11,932 I thought it was the corniest thing 172 00:11:11,975 --> 00:11:13,629 I had ever read in my life. 173 00:11:13,673 --> 00:11:16,284 I thought Ed must be crazy. 174 00:11:16,327 --> 00:11:19,461 I mean I thought he had a bettersense of values than this, 175 00:11:19,504 --> 00:11:22,420 this is awful, how am I gonna say to him. 176 00:11:22,464 --> 00:11:24,422 So finally, I got my courage up, 177 00:11:24,466 --> 00:11:28,296 I said, Ed I'm sorry, I think this is, 178 00:11:30,385 --> 00:11:31,908 it's kinda corny Ed. 179 00:11:31,952 --> 00:11:34,737 He said, why don't you workit up and show it to me. 180 00:11:34,781 --> 00:11:36,130 So we did. 181 00:11:36,173 --> 00:11:38,132 We did it for him, in the classroom. 182 00:11:39,437 --> 00:11:41,526 And he said, Hal I understand why you 183 00:11:41,570 --> 00:11:43,441 don't think this is funny. 184 00:11:44,442 --> 00:11:46,531 You don't understand what's going on. 185 00:11:47,707 --> 00:11:51,145 This is a man with a terrific sense of humor, 186 00:11:52,537 --> 00:11:56,585 pulling the leg of somebodywith no sense of humor at all. 187 00:11:57,455 --> 00:11:59,109 That's the joke. 188 00:11:59,153 --> 00:12:02,417 I said, oh, okay. 189 00:12:02,460 --> 00:12:06,595 And so we traveled for 30 weeks. 190 00:12:06,638 --> 00:12:10,947 We did 307 shows in 30 weeks. 191 00:12:10,991 --> 00:12:13,515 No matter where we went, 192 00:12:13,558 --> 00:12:14,646 the Mark Twain number, 193 00:12:14,690 --> 00:12:17,780 of being interviewed by this crazy lady, 194 00:12:17,824 --> 00:12:18,955 even the kids, 195 00:12:20,261 --> 00:12:21,566 we ended the show with it, 196 00:12:21,610 --> 00:12:23,481 because we could get off with our life. 197 00:12:23,525 --> 00:12:25,396 And everybody liked the Mark Twain show. 198 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:26,658 That, they could take. 199 00:12:26,702 --> 00:12:28,922 Hamlet? Not so much. 200 00:12:28,965 --> 00:12:30,880 Elizabeth in Essex, I don't know, 201 00:12:30,924 --> 00:12:33,535 but Mark Twain, okay. 202 00:12:33,578 --> 00:12:35,580 Well I hope you won't mind if I smoke. 203 00:12:36,538 --> 00:12:38,409 I can't see any harm in it. 204 00:12:40,020 --> 00:12:42,457 So long as there are no children present. 205 00:12:44,894 --> 00:12:49,594 I never began smoking myselfuntil I was nine years old. 206 00:12:49,638 --> 00:12:51,509 [audience laughing] 207 00:12:51,553 --> 00:12:53,120 And even then, I was not constant. 208 00:12:55,513 --> 00:12:57,733 I was always ready to reform, 209 00:12:59,561 --> 00:13:01,693 if I could see any profit in it. 210 00:13:03,478 --> 00:13:07,047 About the only profit I could ever see in it, 211 00:13:07,090 --> 00:13:10,485 was the heavenly pleasureof giving up the reform 212 00:13:10,528 --> 00:13:12,792 and going back to smoking again. 213 00:13:12,835 --> 00:13:15,795 [audience laughing] 214 00:13:17,144 --> 00:13:19,973 I come into this world asking for a light. 215 00:13:23,846 --> 00:13:27,502 And I expect to go out ofit blowing smoke rings. 216 00:13:27,545 --> 00:13:31,506 - My father took me to Memphis, Tennessee, 217 00:13:31,549 --> 00:13:33,377 to see Mark Twain Tonight. 218 00:13:33,421 --> 00:13:36,293 Out came this old man, 219 00:13:37,599 --> 00:13:39,253 in a white coat, 220 00:13:40,428 --> 00:13:44,606 with a cigar and big eyebrows, 221 00:13:45,912 --> 00:13:50,525 and I remember my ear havingto get accustomed to his voice, 222 00:13:50,568 --> 00:13:52,527 because it was real craggly, 223 00:13:52,570 --> 00:13:57,662 and as a child who would grow up to be an actor, 224 00:13:57,706 --> 00:14:00,187 the thing that I rememberbeing most struck by, 225 00:14:00,230 --> 00:14:01,666 and this is not me projecting 226 00:14:01,710 --> 00:14:03,625 onto this child. 227 00:14:03,668 --> 00:14:06,671 I remember thinking, 228 00:14:06,715 --> 00:14:10,023 this man is acting, 229 00:14:10,066 --> 00:14:12,721 and he is holding this room. 230 00:14:13,940 --> 00:14:18,422 His presence and his timing and his rhythm, 231 00:14:18,466 --> 00:14:20,990 is orchestrating the way we are breathing, 232 00:14:22,122 --> 00:14:23,384 as an audience. 233 00:14:23,427 --> 00:14:26,300 And he would take three sentences, 234 00:14:27,562 --> 00:14:29,912 and he would set up the first sentence, 235 00:14:29,956 --> 00:14:31,914 and he'd get a laugh, 236 00:14:31,958 --> 00:14:34,917 and then he would say the second sentence, 237 00:14:34,961 --> 00:14:37,528 and in the pause between the second sentence 238 00:14:37,572 --> 00:14:38,965 and the third sentence, 239 00:14:39,008 --> 00:14:41,532 he would get a second laugh, 240 00:14:41,576 --> 00:14:46,320 and a third laugh, and sometimesa fourth or fifth laugh, 241 00:14:46,363 --> 00:14:49,192 before he said the third sentence, 242 00:14:49,236 --> 00:14:50,759 which was the end of the thought, 243 00:14:50,802 --> 00:14:52,780 and by the end of the thoughtand that third sentence, 244 00:14:52,804 --> 00:14:55,590 the audience would just bein hysterics, and go wild. 245 00:14:56,896 --> 00:14:59,724 But that slow, steady, 246 00:15:01,639 --> 00:15:05,556 canny, rye rhythm that he had, 247 00:15:07,732 --> 00:15:10,605 was mesmerizing, and intoxicating, 248 00:15:10,648 --> 00:15:13,086 and you could not believewhat he was capable of, 249 00:15:13,129 --> 00:15:14,129 with that humor. 250 00:15:16,306 --> 00:15:18,265 - My wife is Dixie. 251 00:15:21,137 --> 00:15:22,137 Dixie. 252 00:15:39,460 --> 00:15:40,722 Now we gotta go to work. 253 00:15:42,158 --> 00:15:43,158 Aw shucks. 254 00:15:44,465 --> 00:15:49,165 Oh, this looks familiar, Iremember pulling in here before. 255 00:15:49,209 --> 00:15:51,602 - [Man] Hal, this isDebbie, the stage manager, 256 00:15:51,646 --> 00:15:52,995 - Nice to meet you. 257 00:15:53,039 --> 00:15:53,778 A pleasure. 258 00:15:53,822 --> 00:15:54,649 - Thank you. 259 00:15:54,692 --> 00:15:56,564 - Roger, sound. 260 00:15:56,607 --> 00:15:57,347 - I'm Roger, on sound. 261 00:15:57,391 --> 00:15:58,131 Good to see you. 262 00:15:58,174 --> 00:15:59,480 - Nate, electrician. 263 00:15:59,523 --> 00:16:00,916 - How are you? 264 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,658 - Both of them did the showwhen we were here in '07. 265 00:16:03,701 --> 00:16:04,659 - I remember you. 266 00:16:04,702 --> 00:16:05,965 [laughing] 267 00:16:06,008 --> 00:16:07,314 - He hasn't changed much. 268 00:16:09,751 --> 00:16:10,815 - It's surprising you know, 269 00:16:10,839 --> 00:16:12,058 it's surprising, 270 00:16:17,193 --> 00:16:20,240 surprisingly nice hall, 271 00:16:20,283 --> 00:16:23,895 it's very colorful and interesting design. 272 00:16:23,939 --> 00:16:28,204 It's too bad in a way thatthe balconies are so far back. 273 00:16:28,248 --> 00:16:30,032 You know little balconies like that, 274 00:16:30,076 --> 00:16:32,600 but not too far. 275 00:16:33,862 --> 00:16:35,255 - The acoustics are great. 276 00:16:35,298 --> 00:16:36,536 - The acoustics are great here? 277 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:37,909 - Yeah. 278 00:16:37,953 --> 00:16:39,259 - Wow, look at this. 279 00:16:40,086 --> 00:16:41,391 - A little different... 280 00:16:41,435 --> 00:16:42,697 - Really nice. 281 00:16:42,740 --> 00:16:43,785 - ...than last week. 282 00:16:43,828 --> 00:16:45,395 - Where were we last week? 283 00:16:45,439 --> 00:16:46,701 Boulder. 284 00:16:46,744 --> 00:16:51,445 Now I gotta unbind all this stuff here. 285 00:16:54,013 --> 00:16:55,840 Let's see, this is for show, 286 00:16:55,884 --> 00:16:57,320 I'm intending to do. 287 00:16:58,930 --> 00:17:03,631 And, I may just look thatover while I'm making up, 288 00:17:04,719 --> 00:17:06,112 I might try to do that. 289 00:17:07,287 --> 00:17:08,853 I haven't been doing that in a while. 290 00:17:08,897 --> 00:17:11,160 Here's a new number I'm putting in. 291 00:17:11,204 --> 00:17:13,597 It's not new, but I mean I haven't done it 292 00:17:13,641 --> 00:17:14,772 for several years. 293 00:17:15,817 --> 00:17:16,861 I love it. 294 00:17:18,298 --> 00:17:20,691 These are my notes for whenl was here the last time. 295 00:17:20,735 --> 00:17:22,824 It was a very good show, 296 00:17:24,130 --> 00:17:28,264 but a slightly strangeaudience, not wholehearted. 297 00:17:28,308 --> 00:17:29,700 They hung back sometimes. 298 00:17:29,744 --> 00:17:32,747 They did not excite me, 299 00:17:32,790 --> 00:17:35,837 nor I think did I them, question mark. 300 00:17:36,794 --> 00:17:38,492 It was a successful performance 301 00:17:38,535 --> 00:17:40,972 but the people seemed backed off, 302 00:17:41,016 --> 00:17:42,191 who came backstage. 303 00:17:42,235 --> 00:17:43,323 Maybe money, 304 00:17:44,454 --> 00:17:47,066 the number about money and Wall Street, 305 00:17:47,109 --> 00:17:48,893 was too tough for them. 306 00:17:48,937 --> 00:17:50,330 Because it was pretty rough, 307 00:17:50,373 --> 00:17:53,420 and it came in 2007, 308 00:17:53,463 --> 00:17:55,770 just in advance of the big drop-off. 309 00:17:57,424 --> 00:17:59,556 This is acetone, 310 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,515 and they say sniffing it 311 00:18:03,256 --> 00:18:04,518 gives you a high, 312 00:18:04,561 --> 00:18:07,042 but I've been sniffing it now for 56 years, 313 00:18:07,086 --> 00:18:10,089 and so far, I don't feel anything. 314 00:18:13,353 --> 00:18:14,876 I don't know whether it's true. 315 00:18:23,014 --> 00:18:26,801 We finally had a child, which we never planned for. 316 00:18:26,844 --> 00:18:28,585 We knew we were gonna have children, 317 00:18:28,629 --> 00:18:31,022 but it was like over there somewhere. 318 00:18:31,066 --> 00:18:34,983 So we didn't plan this, andsuddenly we had a child, 319 00:18:35,026 --> 00:18:36,854 and everything changed. 320 00:18:36,898 --> 00:18:38,769 Our whole life changed. 321 00:18:38,813 --> 00:18:42,033 We hadn't planned for it, we weren't prepared for it, 322 00:18:42,077 --> 00:18:46,864 and it was too bad, because it was hard. 323 00:18:46,908 --> 00:18:48,605 So we'd moved to New York. 324 00:18:48,649 --> 00:18:51,869 We had no money, we had noparents taking care of us. 325 00:18:51,913 --> 00:18:53,175 We were on our own. 326 00:18:54,524 --> 00:18:56,483 And we had like 200 dollars in the bank 327 00:18:56,526 --> 00:18:58,528 when we moved to New York City. 328 00:18:59,747 --> 00:19:02,489 And I was desperate to make a living, 329 00:19:02,532 --> 00:19:05,448 and I'm walking the pavementslooking for work as an actor, 330 00:19:05,492 --> 00:19:07,058 getting turned down by agents 331 00:19:07,102 --> 00:19:09,322 day after day after day after day, 332 00:19:09,365 --> 00:19:11,759 so I went to a friend of mine who 333 00:19:13,456 --> 00:19:16,677 edited a magazine called, Programs. 334 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,202 He was the son of Mark Twain's lecture manager, 335 00:19:20,246 --> 00:19:25,251 and he had known Twain asa young boy, quite well. 336 00:19:26,556 --> 00:19:28,036 So I went to see him, 337 00:19:29,864 --> 00:19:34,869 to ask him if he thought I could get bookings 338 00:19:36,131 --> 00:19:38,089 with somebody else doing the show besides Ruby. 339 00:19:39,047 --> 00:19:42,224 And he said, why don't you do a solo 340 00:19:45,009 --> 00:19:46,097 of Twain? 341 00:19:47,882 --> 00:19:49,100 I said, a solo? 342 00:19:49,144 --> 00:19:52,147 You mean go out alone in front of an audience? 343 00:19:52,191 --> 00:19:53,191 Yeah. 344 00:19:54,236 --> 00:19:56,151 My God, I'd be scared to death, I couldn't. 345 00:19:56,195 --> 00:19:59,415 He said, I think you could get bookings. 346 00:20:01,678 --> 00:20:02,984 Okay. 347 00:20:03,027 --> 00:20:04,028 And that was it. 348 00:20:04,072 --> 00:20:05,378 That's all he said. 349 00:20:05,421 --> 00:20:06,640 So I walked out of there, 350 00:20:06,683 --> 00:20:09,599 and I walked around the streets of New York, 351 00:20:09,643 --> 00:20:10,643 thinking to myself, 352 00:20:11,906 --> 00:20:14,082 how am I gonna do this, holy mackerel. 353 00:20:15,083 --> 00:20:17,085 So there was the Argosy Bookstore, 354 00:20:17,128 --> 00:20:19,261 was the second-handbookstore on 59th Street, 355 00:20:19,305 --> 00:20:22,046 over near Bloomingdale's on the east side. 356 00:20:22,090 --> 00:20:23,657 So I kept passing it, passing it. 357 00:20:23,700 --> 00:20:26,616 But one day I thought, oh I gotta go in. 358 00:20:26,660 --> 00:20:29,967 I went in, and I said where'sthe Mark Twain section. 359 00:20:30,011 --> 00:20:33,449 It was a dusty cornerupstairs, and all these books, 360 00:20:33,493 --> 00:20:35,321 old books, all used books. 361 00:20:36,235 --> 00:20:37,627 So I started buying them, 362 00:20:37,671 --> 00:20:39,150 and I started reading them, 363 00:20:42,850 --> 00:20:43,850 and it was a revelation. 364 00:20:47,158 --> 00:20:48,682 It was a revelation. 365 00:20:50,118 --> 00:20:54,165 If we wanted to know whatthe human race is truly like, 366 00:20:55,123 --> 00:20:57,125 observe it at election time. 367 00:20:58,518 --> 00:21:01,564 That's when the parade of half truths, 368 00:21:01,608 --> 00:21:03,305 goes marching by. 369 00:21:05,176 --> 00:21:08,049 It's a monument to the gospel that truth 370 00:21:08,092 --> 00:21:09,616 is stranger than fiction. 371 00:21:11,182 --> 00:21:15,012 The candidates rearrange thefacts to suit themselves, 372 00:21:15,056 --> 00:21:17,058 and keep the lies and the half truths 373 00:21:17,101 --> 00:21:18,364 spinning in the air, 374 00:21:18,407 --> 00:21:21,280 while the great gullible public cheers and shouts 375 00:21:21,323 --> 00:21:24,500 and stomps its approval the way they always do, 376 00:21:24,544 --> 00:21:26,937 when a politician has just said something 377 00:21:26,981 --> 00:21:28,722 they don't understand. 378 00:21:28,765 --> 00:21:31,159 [audience laughing] 379 00:21:31,202 --> 00:21:34,162 [audience applauding] 380 00:21:36,425 --> 00:21:39,559 We can discount 90% of what the candidates say 381 00:21:39,602 --> 00:21:40,777 at election time, 382 00:21:40,821 --> 00:21:43,650 and assign it to softening of the brain, 383 00:21:45,216 --> 00:21:47,001 because the contents of their skull 384 00:21:47,044 --> 00:21:50,178 could change places with the contents of a pie, 385 00:21:52,441 --> 00:21:55,226 and nobody would be theworse off for it but the pie. 386 00:21:56,184 --> 00:21:57,925 [audience laughing] 387 00:21:57,968 --> 00:22:01,755 There is not one brain amongthem, superior to the rest. 388 00:22:03,234 --> 00:22:07,326 And yet this sarcastic factdoes not humble the arrogant, 389 00:22:08,979 --> 00:22:11,678 or diminish theknow-it-all pronouncements 390 00:22:12,809 --> 00:22:15,246 of a single ignoramus among them. 391 00:22:16,857 --> 00:22:20,382 They are the signs of an ancestral procession 392 00:22:20,426 --> 00:22:21,905 of ignoramuses, 393 00:22:23,254 --> 00:22:25,039 stretching back to the missing link. 394 00:22:26,083 --> 00:22:29,086 [audience laughing] 395 00:22:34,091 --> 00:22:36,398 The one true fact that rises above 396 00:22:36,442 --> 00:22:40,620 this circus of mendacity and misrepresentation, 397 00:22:40,663 --> 00:22:45,146 is that truth has no place in Washington. 398 00:22:47,017 --> 00:22:48,497 - You walk out and you think, 399 00:22:49,759 --> 00:22:51,370 that could have been written yesterday. 400 00:22:51,413 --> 00:22:54,285 Those comments could havebeen said three weeks ago. 401 00:22:54,329 --> 00:22:56,462 The political content, the humor, 402 00:22:57,811 --> 00:22:59,073 it's remarkable, 403 00:22:59,116 --> 00:23:01,249 but Samuel Clemens' life 404 00:23:02,598 --> 00:23:06,646 touched every aspect of thecentury in which he lived. 405 00:23:06,689 --> 00:23:09,213 Things are different now, but they're the same. 406 00:23:10,476 --> 00:23:14,697 Technology, communication, politics, finances, 407 00:23:16,264 --> 00:23:19,528 life changes but there'sa continuity that goes on 408 00:23:19,572 --> 00:23:23,097 amidst all the change too, and Clemens, Mark Twain, 409 00:23:23,140 --> 00:23:26,100 he's got those things sonailed that they resonate 410 00:23:26,143 --> 00:23:27,928 no matter when you hear them. 411 00:23:27,971 --> 00:23:30,191 - Hal Holbrook is probably 412 00:23:30,234 --> 00:23:32,323 the greatest Twain scholar in America, 413 00:23:33,542 --> 00:23:36,023 because he not only has to talk about Twain, 414 00:23:36,066 --> 00:23:37,416 he has to express Twain, 415 00:23:38,852 --> 00:23:40,810 and he knows an awful lot of Twain. 416 00:23:42,159 --> 00:23:44,945 And that's a lot differentfrom memorizing a few jokes. 417 00:23:46,294 --> 00:23:48,644 Slap your thigh, wearinga white suit or whatever. 418 00:23:48,688 --> 00:23:52,213 His knowledge allows him todecide what Twain's gonna say, 419 00:23:53,606 --> 00:23:55,192 because Twain saidsomething about everything. 420 00:23:55,216 --> 00:23:57,348 And you know, you can gothrough Twain like the Bible, 421 00:23:58,219 --> 00:23:59,350 and find a quote. 422 00:24:00,264 --> 00:24:02,876 And Holbrook knows the quotes. 423 00:24:02,919 --> 00:24:05,487 - [Woman] Nate, this is Debbie. 424 00:24:05,531 --> 00:24:06,880 - [Nate] Go ahead. 425 00:24:06,923 --> 00:24:08,795 - We are entering the house right now, 426 00:24:08,838 --> 00:24:11,928 if you could kill the works on stage? 427 00:24:14,888 --> 00:24:16,324 - [Nate] Done. 428 00:24:16,367 --> 00:24:17,368 - Thank you. 429 00:24:18,979 --> 00:24:20,371 And kill the house, thank you. 430 00:24:24,898 --> 00:24:27,335 Bring up light cue three, please Nick. 431 00:24:27,378 --> 00:24:29,206 - You know you could move that lectern 432 00:24:29,250 --> 00:24:31,165 offstage another six inches. 433 00:24:37,345 --> 00:24:39,173 Okay, that's better. 434 00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:47,268 We could take the blue washdown a little bit, okay? 435 00:24:49,096 --> 00:24:51,272 - Nate, could you bring the blue wash down? 436 00:24:53,492 --> 00:24:55,537 Take it down 10% please. 437 00:24:55,581 --> 00:24:59,498 - Take a little bit more off it, maybe 5%. 438 00:24:59,541 --> 00:25:00,890 - Take another 10 please. 439 00:25:02,979 --> 00:25:04,590 - That's good there, 440 00:25:04,633 --> 00:25:06,287 no, a little bit more up. 441 00:25:07,375 --> 00:25:08,332 Up a little bit more. 442 00:25:08,376 --> 00:25:09,656 - Bring it up about five, please. 443 00:25:10,900 --> 00:25:14,513 - When Mark Twain gave his lectures, 444 00:25:14,556 --> 00:25:17,951 which started about 1870, 445 00:25:19,605 --> 00:25:20,823 he called them lectures. 446 00:25:20,867 --> 00:25:23,391 It was lectures but they were funny. 447 00:25:23,434 --> 00:25:25,349 He was funny. 448 00:25:25,393 --> 00:25:28,178 Other people were not funny, Artemas Ward, 449 00:25:28,222 --> 00:25:29,353 people like that, 450 00:25:29,397 --> 00:25:32,008 but most was a sedate thing. 451 00:25:33,270 --> 00:25:37,187 So his forum, just his natural way of talking, 452 00:25:37,231 --> 00:25:39,842 which was just to talk, 453 00:25:39,886 --> 00:25:42,932 and not to stand behind thelectern like Dickens did, 454 00:25:44,325 --> 00:25:48,416 to move around, that was considered irreverent or different. 455 00:25:48,459 --> 00:25:52,420 To us today, that would seem ridiculous. 456 00:25:52,463 --> 00:25:55,205 But in those days, anything like that, 457 00:25:55,249 --> 00:25:57,207 well it just wasn't the accepted thing, 458 00:25:57,251 --> 00:25:59,470 to leave the lectern and go slouching around, 459 00:25:59,514 --> 00:26:02,430 and mumbling and all this, you know. 460 00:26:02,473 --> 00:26:04,519 So that was his style, just like, 461 00:26:06,129 --> 00:26:08,262 stream of consciousness. 462 00:26:08,305 --> 00:26:10,743 So in order to, 463 00:26:10,786 --> 00:26:13,223 and he dressed black, you know. 464 00:26:13,267 --> 00:26:15,182 But in order to 465 00:26:17,488 --> 00:26:19,969 visually give the picture, 466 00:26:20,013 --> 00:26:22,363 of some kind of eccentricity, 467 00:26:23,494 --> 00:26:24,974 to a modern audience, 468 00:26:26,889 --> 00:26:29,631 I knew that he was famousfor wearing a white suit. 469 00:26:31,154 --> 00:26:33,461 When he lived on 5th Avenue, he'd put his white suit 470 00:26:33,504 --> 00:26:36,377 on Sunday morning, and walk by the parishioners 471 00:26:36,420 --> 00:26:39,336 getting out of church, andshock the hell out of them. 472 00:26:39,380 --> 00:26:42,557 So I decided to wear the white suit, 473 00:26:45,125 --> 00:26:49,259 and to smoke on the stage, which is also unusual, 474 00:26:49,303 --> 00:26:51,261 which he would never have done then, 475 00:26:51,305 --> 00:26:52,611 because the cigar was 476 00:26:54,134 --> 00:26:57,137 a trademark of Twain's the same way it was 477 00:26:57,180 --> 00:26:58,399 to Winston Churchill. 478 00:27:00,401 --> 00:27:02,490 I believe there's somecommandment against smoking 479 00:27:02,533 --> 00:27:05,406 in the pulpit, but I'mworking to get it removed. 480 00:27:05,449 --> 00:27:06,625 Mind you I have no, 481 00:27:08,278 --> 00:27:09,366 let me think for a minute. 482 00:27:11,368 --> 00:27:13,327 I have no objection to abstinence, 483 00:27:13,370 --> 00:27:15,372 I practice it myself on occasion. 484 00:27:16,417 --> 00:27:19,072 I make it a rule never to smoke when asleep, 485 00:27:19,115 --> 00:27:21,030 not that I care for moderation myself, 486 00:27:21,074 --> 00:27:24,686 but I do it as an example to others 487 00:27:24,730 --> 00:27:29,125 and to prove that I'm not afraid of habit. 488 00:27:29,169 --> 00:27:31,562 I can give it up whenever I want to. 489 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,304 I've done it a thousand times. 490 00:27:34,348 --> 00:27:36,872 - One moment in it that I will never forget 491 00:27:36,916 --> 00:27:41,834 is that he feel asleep during the performance, 492 00:27:41,877 --> 00:27:46,882 and I thought, oh my God, hehas actually fallen asleep. 493 00:27:48,449 --> 00:27:51,017 And it went on and on and on. 494 00:27:51,060 --> 00:27:52,540 He was snoring, 495 00:27:52,583 --> 00:27:56,283 and just very peacefully, sitting in a chair, fast asleep, 496 00:27:56,326 --> 00:27:59,068 and the audience beganto titter and then laugh, 497 00:27:59,112 --> 00:28:00,896 and then get concerned. 498 00:28:00,940 --> 00:28:05,509 And then he woke up and pretended that it never happened, 499 00:28:06,859 --> 00:28:09,209 and then you realized thatit was part of the show. 500 00:28:09,252 --> 00:28:11,472 But it was so brilliant, 501 00:28:11,515 --> 00:28:15,606 that he brought us in, so completely, 502 00:28:15,650 --> 00:28:19,349 that he took a nap in themiddle of a performance, 503 00:28:19,393 --> 00:28:20,611 and pulled it off. 504 00:28:20,655 --> 00:28:22,831 It was a stroke of genius. 505 00:28:22,875 --> 00:28:27,444 - I spent a year or so constructing a show 506 00:28:27,488 --> 00:28:29,185 of one hour length, 507 00:28:29,229 --> 00:28:34,060 and I got booked into a collegein Lock Haven, Pennsylvania, 508 00:28:34,103 --> 00:28:36,062 on the Susquehanna River up there. 509 00:28:37,628 --> 00:28:41,545 And I went out on stagein front of that audience, 510 00:28:41,589 --> 00:28:45,201 it was a morning assembly at 11 o'clock. 511 00:28:45,245 --> 00:28:46,899 I was frightened out of my wits. 512 00:28:48,509 --> 00:28:51,164 I had my makeup, I love makeup, 513 00:28:51,207 --> 00:28:53,514 and I had all this makeup, 514 00:28:55,472 --> 00:28:56,778 got myself together, 515 00:28:56,822 --> 00:28:59,563 and walked out on that stage 516 00:28:59,607 --> 00:29:02,349 and I had a lectern so Icould hold onto something 517 00:29:02,392 --> 00:29:04,394 in case I was gonna faint, 518 00:29:04,438 --> 00:29:07,136 and a rug, and I had a table over here. 519 00:29:07,180 --> 00:29:09,399 If I ever dared walk away from the lectern, 520 00:29:09,443 --> 00:29:13,142 because it was like holding on to an anchor. 521 00:29:13,186 --> 00:29:16,580 And I started to speak. 522 00:29:18,191 --> 00:29:21,760 I was hoping there might bea laugh in the first line. 523 00:29:22,935 --> 00:29:25,459 Not real funny, but the first line is, 524 00:29:25,502 --> 00:29:28,549 I wish to begin at the beginning, 525 00:29:28,592 --> 00:29:30,551 lest I forget it altogether. 526 00:29:30,594 --> 00:29:32,553 I thought there might be a chuckle. 527 00:29:33,902 --> 00:29:36,470 They laughed on, I wish tobegin this at the beginning. 528 00:29:37,950 --> 00:29:40,691 Then they laughed again at the end of the line. 529 00:29:42,128 --> 00:29:43,390 I thought, my God. 530 00:29:43,433 --> 00:29:45,348 Then I kept going and they kept laughing, 531 00:29:45,392 --> 00:29:46,717 and they laughed, they laughed at stuff 532 00:29:46,741 --> 00:29:48,830 I didn't even know was funny. 533 00:29:50,353 --> 00:29:52,442 By the end of half anhour, I was sailing along, 534 00:29:52,486 --> 00:29:55,445 I thought, this is wonderfulhearing an audience 535 00:29:55,489 --> 00:29:58,187 laugh like this is so wonderful, 536 00:29:58,231 --> 00:30:00,842 and people laughed, and ohwhat a wonderful feeling. 537 00:30:00,886 --> 00:30:04,106 And then I got into a number called, 538 00:30:04,150 --> 00:30:06,717 Captain Stormfield's Visit to Heaven, 539 00:30:07,980 --> 00:30:11,853 which I think is a reallywonderful, satiric, 540 00:30:11,897 --> 00:30:13,507 charming piece. 541 00:30:13,550 --> 00:30:15,944 It's a satire on heaven. 542 00:30:15,988 --> 00:30:17,685 Well the number started out all right, 543 00:30:17,728 --> 00:30:19,078 and then it started dying. 544 00:30:20,035 --> 00:30:22,298 The response started dying. 545 00:30:22,342 --> 00:30:23,604 It's a long number, 546 00:30:23,647 --> 00:30:26,085 it's the one that I was most worried about. 547 00:30:26,912 --> 00:30:28,478 It was like 15 minutes long. 548 00:30:28,522 --> 00:30:30,176 I thought if I go down with this, 549 00:30:30,219 --> 00:30:32,047 what am I gonna do? 550 00:30:32,091 --> 00:30:35,485 Then I asked the guy in charge of the assembly, 551 00:30:35,529 --> 00:30:39,402 what happened with CaptainStormfield's Visit to Heaven? 552 00:30:39,446 --> 00:30:43,754 Well, they may have foundit a little sacrilegious. 553 00:30:46,888 --> 00:30:48,629 I thought, sacrilegious? 554 00:30:48,672 --> 00:30:50,805 It never occurred to me 555 00:30:50,849 --> 00:30:55,723 that anybody would takeexception to this, sacrilegious? 556 00:30:55,766 --> 00:30:57,464 That's what it is, but it's funny. 557 00:30:58,726 --> 00:31:01,685 But that was my first big lesson with Twain, 558 00:31:01,729 --> 00:31:02,773 because 559 00:31:04,514 --> 00:31:06,647 there's an awful lot of people out there 560 00:31:06,690 --> 00:31:09,302 who don't want to hear anything sacrilegious, 561 00:31:10,564 --> 00:31:14,611 no matter how funny it is, or how true it is. 562 00:31:15,874 --> 00:31:20,879 They don't want to hear that truth spoken. 563 00:31:22,141 --> 00:31:23,945 And that was something that I learned early on, 564 00:31:23,969 --> 00:31:25,971 and it was a great challenge to me, 565 00:31:26,014 --> 00:31:30,105 because my whole impulse was to speak it, 566 00:31:30,149 --> 00:31:31,193 which I did. 567 00:31:32,020 --> 00:31:33,761 Man has a Bible he is, 568 00:31:33,804 --> 00:31:36,590 he's invented himself a heaven, 569 00:31:36,633 --> 00:31:39,593 and entered into it allthe nations of the Earth, 570 00:31:39,636 --> 00:31:41,682 all in one common jumble, 571 00:31:41,725 --> 00:31:44,859 and all of them on an equality absolute. 572 00:31:46,992 --> 00:31:49,559 [chuckling] 573 00:31:49,603 --> 00:31:51,387 They have to be brothers. 574 00:31:52,606 --> 00:31:55,957 They have to mix together, and pray together, 575 00:31:56,001 --> 00:31:58,003 and harp and hosanna together, 576 00:31:58,046 --> 00:32:00,266 whites, Negros, Jews, everybody. 577 00:32:01,658 --> 00:32:02,790 There are no distinctions. 578 00:32:06,750 --> 00:32:09,666 Yet, down here on Earth allthe nations hate each other, 579 00:32:09,710 --> 00:32:10,972 and fight each other, 580 00:32:11,016 --> 00:32:13,061 and every one of them persecutes the Jew, 581 00:32:14,541 --> 00:32:18,371 and yet every piousperson adores that heaven, 582 00:32:18,414 --> 00:32:20,373 and wants to get into it. 583 00:32:20,416 --> 00:32:23,158 He really does now, isn't that marvelous? 584 00:32:24,681 --> 00:32:27,946 And when he's in a holy rapture, 585 00:32:27,989 --> 00:32:32,080 he thinks that if he could only get up there, 586 00:32:32,124 --> 00:32:35,736 he would take that whole populace to his heart, 587 00:32:35,779 --> 00:32:38,957 and hug, and hug, and hug. 588 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,784 I wonder if God invented man 589 00:32:40,828 --> 00:32:44,005 because he wasdisappointed in the monkey. 590 00:32:44,049 --> 00:32:47,052 [audience laughing] 591 00:32:54,798 --> 00:32:57,410 Is the human race a joke? 592 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,849 Do you suppose, is it a joke? 593 00:33:05,418 --> 00:33:08,638 Was it patched together in a dull time, 594 00:33:08,682 --> 00:33:10,814 when there was nothing important to do? 595 00:33:11,946 --> 00:33:15,994 If we are the noblest work of God, 596 00:33:17,821 --> 00:33:19,432 where is the ignoblest? 597 00:33:22,696 --> 00:33:24,654 In the last five or six thousand years, 598 00:33:24,698 --> 00:33:28,223 five or six high civilizationshave risen, flourished, 599 00:33:28,267 --> 00:33:29,964 commanded the wonder of the world, 600 00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:32,053 and then faded away and disappeared, 601 00:33:32,097 --> 00:33:34,447 and not one of them until ours 602 00:33:34,490 --> 00:33:37,841 ever invented a sweeping and adequate way 603 00:33:37,885 --> 00:33:40,409 to kill masses of people. 604 00:33:44,718 --> 00:33:46,198 They all did their best, 605 00:33:47,938 --> 00:33:51,333 but only our civilizationhas scored a triumph 606 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,160 to be proud of. 607 00:33:56,860 --> 00:33:59,037 And before long it will be recognized 608 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,041 that the only competent killers, are Christians. 609 00:34:04,781 --> 00:34:07,958 And then the pagan world will go to school 610 00:34:08,002 --> 00:34:09,090 to the Christian, 611 00:34:09,134 --> 00:34:11,962 not to acquire its religion, 612 00:34:13,529 --> 00:34:14,791 but its guns. 613 00:34:19,796 --> 00:34:22,408 This is the toughest thing of all, 614 00:34:23,974 --> 00:34:24,974 putting on this nose. 615 00:34:27,413 --> 00:34:29,110 If you get it wrong, 616 00:34:29,154 --> 00:34:31,634 and the glue gets ahead of you, you're finished. 617 00:34:38,032 --> 00:34:39,903 I'll try once more to do it with you, 618 00:34:39,947 --> 00:34:42,210 the hard way, I'm gonna do it the hard way. 619 00:34:44,778 --> 00:34:47,955 I started working on makeupwhen I was in college. 620 00:34:49,130 --> 00:34:52,394 I loved makeup, I loved disguising myself. 621 00:34:53,569 --> 00:34:54,657 Disappearing. 622 00:34:56,268 --> 00:34:59,009 I was not comfortablewith myself in those days, 623 00:35:00,402 --> 00:35:05,320 and that was one of the things I had to learn, 624 00:35:05,364 --> 00:35:09,759 both in life and as an actor, 625 00:35:09,803 --> 00:35:11,109 I had to learn to 626 00:35:14,460 --> 00:35:16,201 stop disguising myself 627 00:35:17,245 --> 00:35:19,160 and just play myself, 628 00:35:19,204 --> 00:35:21,423 and it was always very difficult for me. 629 00:35:22,511 --> 00:35:25,819 - His warmup is his makeup, 630 00:35:25,862 --> 00:35:28,038 putting on his makeup, putting on his eyebrows, 631 00:35:28,082 --> 00:35:31,564 putting on his mustache and his false nose, 632 00:35:31,607 --> 00:35:33,305 his proboscis. 633 00:35:33,348 --> 00:35:36,525 That's him getting into character, 634 00:35:36,569 --> 00:35:38,875 and there's nothing mystical about it, 635 00:35:38,919 --> 00:35:39,833 he can talk 636 00:35:39,876 --> 00:35:42,401 while he's doing it, he's not, 637 00:35:42,444 --> 00:35:44,925 it's not like you're inchurch and you can't talk, 638 00:35:44,968 --> 00:35:48,015 but it's just the routine 639 00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:52,106 that enables to him to be ready to go out 640 00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:55,196 and face an audience as Mark Twain. 641 00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:56,763 - I do something now 642 00:35:57,938 --> 00:36:01,333 called stiffling with these two colors, 643 00:36:01,376 --> 00:36:04,901 and Dick Smith, who is a great makeup man, 644 00:36:08,253 --> 00:36:09,558 he credits me with 645 00:36:11,952 --> 00:36:14,041 inventing this, 646 00:36:15,085 --> 00:36:18,001 but he came down years ago, in 1962, 647 00:36:23,006 --> 00:36:25,226 to watch me do the makeup, 648 00:36:25,270 --> 00:36:28,273 I put a makeup on for AbeLincoln, young Abe Lincoln, 649 00:36:29,926 --> 00:36:31,189 and it was very difficult, 650 00:36:31,232 --> 00:36:33,060 because I don't have the face for it. 651 00:36:34,279 --> 00:36:36,803 So I had to use some pretty strong 652 00:36:39,022 --> 00:36:40,937 highlights and shadows and stuff. 653 00:36:40,981 --> 00:36:44,898 And I was looking at a portrait of Rembrandt, 654 00:36:45,942 --> 00:36:50,382 and I noticed that if you look close, 655 00:36:50,425 --> 00:36:52,993 you see little tiny yellow, red, and blue 656 00:36:53,036 --> 00:36:55,343 dots and things, marked, 657 00:36:56,997 --> 00:37:01,088 and you step back five feet, and you don't see them, 658 00:37:01,131 --> 00:37:03,525 but the effect is a textured skin. 659 00:37:08,095 --> 00:37:11,359 - I moved to Iowa in August of '97, 660 00:37:11,403 --> 00:37:13,970 so I had two years here to do my PhD. 661 00:37:14,014 --> 00:37:15,294 I was no sooner there that fall, 662 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,017 than somebody said, 663 00:37:17,060 --> 00:37:20,673 well did you hear Hal Holbrook'scoming to Burlington, Iowa? 664 00:37:20,716 --> 00:37:22,762 I knew that to see Hal Holbrook, 665 00:37:22,805 --> 00:37:25,591 would be the closest I'd ever come to really 666 00:37:25,634 --> 00:37:29,812 hearing Mark Twain, and watchingMark Twain move and talk, 667 00:37:29,856 --> 00:37:32,380 and I had to go somehow, 668 00:37:32,424 --> 00:37:35,905 and then I found out thattickets were 35 dollars. 669 00:37:37,124 --> 00:37:38,604 That was a problem for me, 670 00:37:38,647 --> 00:37:41,084 because I did not have an extra five dollars, 671 00:37:41,128 --> 00:37:42,347 but it was fall, 672 00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:45,350 and I had just bought my boots for the winter, 673 00:37:45,393 --> 00:37:47,830 down at Walmart, they were 35 dollars, 674 00:37:47,874 --> 00:37:50,050 and that was gonna get throughmy two winters at Iowa, 675 00:37:50,093 --> 00:37:51,834 then I was going back home to Florida 676 00:37:51,878 --> 00:37:54,707 where I wouldn't need boots anymore anyway. 677 00:37:54,750 --> 00:37:57,666 And I realized I had not yet taken the tag off. 678 00:37:57,710 --> 00:37:59,581 I hadn't done anything with them. 679 00:38:01,148 --> 00:38:02,647 So I did the most obviousthing anybody would do, 680 00:38:02,671 --> 00:38:05,979 was I took the boots back, got my 35 dollars back, 681 00:38:06,022 --> 00:38:08,677 and I bought my Hal Holbrook ticket, 682 00:38:08,721 --> 00:38:11,245 and it was the best 35 dollars I ever spent. 683 00:38:11,289 --> 00:38:13,813 - I had put the show aside, Mark Twain, 684 00:38:13,856 --> 00:38:16,119 I might never have done it again, 685 00:38:16,163 --> 00:38:18,905 because I had finallygotten a job in New York. 686 00:38:19,775 --> 00:38:21,777 I got a job on a soap opera, 687 00:38:21,821 --> 00:38:25,172 on CBS, called A Brighter Day, 688 00:38:25,215 --> 00:38:27,392 and I had a contract for a whole year, 689 00:38:27,435 --> 00:38:30,264 with options for the other years, 690 00:38:30,308 --> 00:38:32,788 and I was gonna make maybe 200 bucks a week, 691 00:38:32,832 --> 00:38:36,749 and I was in clover, I was finally safe, 692 00:38:36,792 --> 00:38:39,317 and the family was safe, and the baby was safe, 693 00:38:40,405 --> 00:38:43,712 but something in my mind said, 694 00:38:43,756 --> 00:38:45,192 why don't you give it a try? 695 00:38:45,235 --> 00:38:46,411 So I tried it out, 696 00:38:46,454 --> 00:38:49,370 a place down in Grove Street in the Village, 697 00:38:49,414 --> 00:38:51,938 and I ran there for eight months, 698 00:38:51,981 --> 00:38:54,244 and I developed the first two hours 699 00:38:54,288 --> 00:38:55,898 of my Mark Twain material, 700 00:38:55,942 --> 00:38:58,988 in the curve of a baby grand piano. 701 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,991 One night I was making up downstairs, 702 00:39:02,035 --> 00:39:06,344 and Kerry our door man 703 00:39:06,387 --> 00:39:09,521 came down and said, Ed Sullivan's out there. 704 00:39:10,826 --> 00:39:14,264 What? Ed Sullivan, he's got a friend with him. 705 00:39:14,308 --> 00:39:15,570 So I took the wig off, 706 00:39:15,614 --> 00:39:18,921 and I came up and sat down with him. 707 00:39:18,965 --> 00:39:20,314 He said, sit down Hal. 708 00:39:20,358 --> 00:39:23,230 He said, have you got anyother piece you can do? 709 00:39:23,273 --> 00:39:25,188 And I said, yeah, I know that was a little raw, 710 00:39:25,232 --> 00:39:28,235 yeah I have this thingabout how you get to be 70, 711 00:39:28,278 --> 00:39:30,019 you know, smoke a lot, and all that. 712 00:39:31,325 --> 00:39:33,205 Well look, he said, can you come to my apartment 713 00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:34,807 tomorrow and do it for me? 714 00:39:34,850 --> 00:39:37,331 I said, sure, Mister Sullivan. 715 00:39:37,375 --> 00:39:41,161 So I walk in, and he asks mea few things about the show, 716 00:39:42,597 --> 00:39:45,034 then he said, what have you got for me, Hal? 717 00:39:46,253 --> 00:39:48,255 I said, well I got this thing. 718 00:39:48,298 --> 00:39:50,126 He said, why don't you just do it for me? 719 00:39:51,214 --> 00:39:52,868 So I did, he's sitting there. 720 00:39:52,912 --> 00:39:55,131 Well he's not a big smiler you know. 721 00:39:56,350 --> 00:39:58,483 So there was no smiles or nothin', 722 00:39:58,526 --> 00:40:00,920 and I did this piece. 723 00:40:00,963 --> 00:40:04,793 And he said, can you cutthat to six minutes, Hal? 724 00:40:06,099 --> 00:40:08,754 I said to myself, six minutes, cut it down? 725 00:40:08,797 --> 00:40:11,191 I don't know, forget it, say yes. 726 00:40:11,234 --> 00:40:13,541 I said, yeah, I think I can. 727 00:40:13,585 --> 00:40:15,587 So he said, I think we can use you. 728 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:18,807 Who's your agent? 729 00:40:20,809 --> 00:40:23,116 I said, I don't have an agent, Mister Sullivan. 730 00:40:24,509 --> 00:40:26,946 He said, you don't have an agent? 731 00:40:26,989 --> 00:40:28,077 I said no sir. 732 00:40:31,167 --> 00:40:32,778 How much do you want, Hal? 733 00:40:34,823 --> 00:40:39,088 Until that moment, I hadnever thought of being paid. 734 00:40:39,132 --> 00:40:42,265 The thought of being paidhad never entered my mind. 735 00:40:43,919 --> 00:40:45,355 Just to get on his show. 736 00:40:46,618 --> 00:40:48,576 Now I'm thinking, my brain is in a whirl. 737 00:40:51,274 --> 00:40:53,407 Let's see, the Beatles, 738 00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:56,541 and what's the guy fromMemphis that swivels his hips, 739 00:40:56,584 --> 00:40:58,847 they get a thousand dollars I'm sure. 740 00:40:58,891 --> 00:41:01,415 No, that's too much Holbrook, I'm saying in my brain. 741 00:41:03,635 --> 00:41:07,247 Maybe 200, no that's toolow, don't make it too low. 742 00:41:07,290 --> 00:41:08,944 Meanwhile, Sullivan is looking at me 743 00:41:08,988 --> 00:41:11,730 and my brain is whirling, and I'm doing, 744 00:41:13,775 --> 00:41:14,775 well, 745 00:41:16,909 --> 00:41:17,909 well sir, 746 00:41:20,347 --> 00:41:23,263 would 500 dollars be all right? 747 00:41:24,917 --> 00:41:27,528 He said, you got a deal Hal. 748 00:41:30,270 --> 00:41:32,054 Then I thought, I didn't ask enough. 749 00:41:34,056 --> 00:41:36,624 - There's a youngsterdowntown, I saw him down there, 750 00:41:38,147 --> 00:41:40,062 and he did an amazingimpression of Mark Twain, 751 00:41:40,106 --> 00:41:42,456 he's a Mark Twain scholar actually. 752 00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:44,327 His name is Hal Holbrook, 753 00:41:44,371 --> 00:41:46,678 and here he is as Mark Twain. 754 00:41:46,721 --> 00:41:50,638 [bright orchestral music] 755 00:41:50,682 --> 00:41:53,859 [audience applauding] 756 00:41:58,254 --> 00:42:01,431 - Well thank you, thank youvery much for that reception. 757 00:42:02,781 --> 00:42:05,392 And the introduction, thatwas beautifully phrased, 758 00:42:05,435 --> 00:42:07,612 beautifully phrased, 759 00:42:07,655 --> 00:42:08,743 and well deserved. 760 00:42:11,572 --> 00:42:14,444 You know that's one of the results 761 00:42:14,488 --> 00:42:16,446 of a long and notorious career, 762 00:42:17,926 --> 00:42:20,450 is that you do get a great many compliments. 763 00:42:21,408 --> 00:42:23,018 And I want to say now these compliments 764 00:42:23,062 --> 00:42:25,455 are really very difficult to take. 765 00:42:26,413 --> 00:42:28,043 I don't care whether you deserve them or not, 766 00:42:28,067 --> 00:42:30,373 it's just difficult to take them. 767 00:42:31,374 --> 00:42:33,289 Compliments always embarrass a man. 768 00:42:33,333 --> 00:42:35,640 They don't inspire you with words, 769 00:42:35,683 --> 00:42:38,033 they don't think of anything to say. 770 00:42:38,077 --> 00:42:40,775 I've been complimented agreat many times in my life, 771 00:42:40,819 --> 00:42:42,298 and they always embarrass me. 772 00:42:42,342 --> 00:42:45,345 I always feel they've not said enough. 773 00:42:45,388 --> 00:42:48,043 [audience laughing] 774 00:42:48,087 --> 00:42:49,610 But you know I'm always sorry 775 00:42:49,654 --> 00:42:52,395 to have my name mentionedas one of the great authors, 776 00:42:53,658 --> 00:42:56,399 because they have such a sad habit of dying off. 777 00:42:58,271 --> 00:43:00,490 Chaucer's dead, Spenser's dead. 778 00:43:01,753 --> 00:43:03,624 So is Milton and so is Shakespeare, 779 00:43:04,843 --> 00:43:06,714 and I'm not feeling very well myself. 780 00:43:07,672 --> 00:43:10,675 [audience laughing] 781 00:43:12,590 --> 00:43:15,331 - [Man] 1960 only state department tour. 782 00:43:19,335 --> 00:43:21,294 - Yeah, see he put these little tabs on it, 783 00:43:21,337 --> 00:43:24,514 so you can easily remove that. 784 00:43:24,558 --> 00:43:26,038 - [Man] That's pretty smart. 785 00:43:30,477 --> 00:43:32,522 - [Joyce] There we go. 786 00:43:33,785 --> 00:43:35,351 - [Man] So much stuff. 787 00:43:36,788 --> 00:43:39,791 Every little, it's amazinghow just the detail, 788 00:43:39,834 --> 00:43:44,317 every little one sentence blurb, 789 00:43:46,014 --> 00:43:48,538 from anywhere in the world. 790 00:43:48,582 --> 00:43:51,367 The Everett Daily Herald, 1960. 791 00:43:51,411 --> 00:43:53,587 Hopewell, Virginia, Cleveland, Ohio, 792 00:43:53,631 --> 00:43:55,676 Wilmington, Delaware, Philadelphia. 793 00:43:57,939 --> 00:44:00,202 Washington, DC, Vernon, New Jersey, 794 00:44:00,246 --> 00:44:02,291 Hartford, Connecticut, Santa Barbara, California, 795 00:44:02,335 --> 00:44:04,598 Houston, Texas, Jacksonville, Florida, 796 00:44:04,642 --> 00:44:05,817 Akron, Ohio. 797 00:44:07,470 --> 00:44:08,515 President Eisenhower. 798 00:44:12,737 --> 00:44:15,304 - [Joyce] Whoever youare, my dearest relation, 799 00:44:15,348 --> 00:44:19,744 or an objective researcher, addict, whatever, 800 00:44:19,787 --> 00:44:21,267 hello from the grave, 801 00:44:21,310 --> 00:44:24,357 I'll probably be dead when this is seen again. 802 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,575 Hal! 803 00:44:25,619 --> 00:44:27,926 [laughing] 804 00:44:29,057 --> 00:44:30,406 - [Man] What is the back? 805 00:44:31,669 --> 00:44:34,106 It all gets so dusty with age. 806 00:44:34,149 --> 00:44:36,543 Nothing matters much at all once it's been done, 807 00:44:36,586 --> 00:44:39,459 and the affect has taken its little toll. 808 00:44:40,721 --> 00:44:43,506 You have to move on, go sailing or something. 809 00:44:45,247 --> 00:44:46,247 - [Joyce] Wow. 810 00:44:51,210 --> 00:44:55,301 - I got for Christmas thatyear, the Twain album, 811 00:44:55,344 --> 00:44:56,650 which I still have, 812 00:44:58,217 --> 00:44:59,609 a treasured possession, 813 00:44:59,653 --> 00:45:03,265 and I began because I was so young, 814 00:45:03,309 --> 00:45:05,659 I could learn it very easily, 815 00:45:05,703 --> 00:45:10,011 so I learned about I guess 45 minutes of it. 816 00:45:10,055 --> 00:45:13,754 So by the time I was 13, havinglearned 45 minutes of it, 817 00:45:14,842 --> 00:45:16,801 I started needing a costume. 818 00:45:16,844 --> 00:45:19,325 So I got a white suit, 819 00:45:19,368 --> 00:45:22,371 and the loose lady in town, 820 00:45:22,415 --> 00:45:23,653 you know, she was kind of loose, 821 00:45:23,677 --> 00:45:25,505 she had a short white wig. 822 00:45:25,548 --> 00:45:28,638 It was the early, late 60's, early 70's, 823 00:45:28,682 --> 00:45:29,901 and she gave me the wig, 824 00:45:29,944 --> 00:45:33,731 and I got a cotton ball mustache and eyebrows, 825 00:45:33,774 --> 00:45:38,605 and a cigar, and I starteddoing it at the Rotary Club, 826 00:45:38,648 --> 00:45:39,911 and the Kiwanis Club, 827 00:45:39,954 --> 00:45:41,782 and the TVA convention. 828 00:45:41,826 --> 00:45:44,306 That was actually the firstmoney I made as an actor, 829 00:45:44,350 --> 00:45:47,005 was at the TVA convention, I made 15 dollars, 830 00:45:47,048 --> 00:45:48,746 doing Mark Twain Tonight. 831 00:45:48,789 --> 00:45:51,531 And when I finally met Mister Holbrook, 832 00:45:51,574 --> 00:45:56,014 I mentioned to him that I had taken 45 minutes 833 00:45:56,057 --> 00:45:59,844 off his record and done it at a TVA convention, 834 00:46:01,541 --> 00:46:04,805 which I think was a rathersore subject with Hal, 835 00:46:04,849 --> 00:46:07,982 because a number of people had done that, 836 00:46:08,026 --> 00:46:10,593 had taken his material. 837 00:46:10,637 --> 00:46:11,899 Obviously, it was Mark Twain's, 838 00:46:11,943 --> 00:46:15,598 but he had spent years crafting it 839 00:46:15,642 --> 00:46:17,078 into a theatrical experience, 840 00:46:17,122 --> 00:46:19,820 so when I told him that, he said, 841 00:46:19,864 --> 00:46:22,475 then young lady you owe me some royalties, 842 00:46:22,518 --> 00:46:25,870 and I wasn't sure at the time 843 00:46:25,913 --> 00:46:27,610 whether he was serious or not, 844 00:46:27,654 --> 00:46:31,571 but in looking back I reallydo think he was serious, 845 00:46:31,614 --> 00:46:33,312 because he's a man of the theater, 846 00:46:33,355 --> 00:46:36,141 and he believes in justice. 847 00:46:36,184 --> 00:46:39,666 So I probably owe him aboutseven dollars and 50 cents, 848 00:46:39,709 --> 00:46:43,713 which I will hopefully beable to give to him some day. 849 00:46:43,757 --> 00:46:45,890 - We finally raised the money. 850 00:46:47,108 --> 00:46:49,458 We needed 9000 dollars to put this show on, 851 00:46:49,502 --> 00:46:51,852 in a little off-Broadway theater, 852 00:46:51,896 --> 00:46:54,072 and I was scared to death, 853 00:46:54,115 --> 00:46:58,641 because I had played all these little tiny towns, 854 00:46:58,685 --> 00:47:01,731 Wahoo, Nebraska, you name it, 855 00:47:01,775 --> 00:47:03,864 all across this country, 856 00:47:03,908 --> 00:47:06,606 and nobody's ever raved about my show. 857 00:47:06,649 --> 00:47:09,174 Two people had written really nice reviews, 858 00:47:09,217 --> 00:47:11,002 one in Springfield, Massachusetts, 859 00:47:11,045 --> 00:47:13,265 the other in Emporia, Kansas. 860 00:47:14,614 --> 00:47:19,662 And I went out in front ofthat opening night audience, 861 00:47:21,012 --> 00:47:22,946 with all those critics outthere from New York papers, 862 00:47:22,970 --> 00:47:24,885 and my knees started shaking, 863 00:47:24,929 --> 00:47:28,671 and I was scared out of my wits. 864 00:47:28,715 --> 00:47:30,064 And I was angry at myself, 865 00:47:30,108 --> 00:47:31,936 because I thought, what'sthe matter with you? 866 00:47:31,979 --> 00:47:36,549 After all the places you'veplayed, and the experiences, 867 00:47:36,592 --> 00:47:37,680 you've played everywhere 868 00:47:37,724 --> 00:47:40,509 from the curve of the baby grand piano, 869 00:47:40,553 --> 00:47:42,163 to a high school gym. 870 00:47:42,207 --> 00:47:44,426 You've done everything, 871 00:47:44,470 --> 00:47:45,601 stop being nervous. 872 00:47:45,645 --> 00:47:47,081 I couldn't help it. 873 00:47:47,125 --> 00:47:51,259 I was helpless, and I didn'tthink I was doing very well. 874 00:47:51,303 --> 00:47:53,218 I picked up the matches, you know, 875 00:47:53,261 --> 00:47:55,785 and my hand shook so badl dropped it on the floor. 876 00:47:55,829 --> 00:47:57,744 I thought, oh I've killed the laugh. 877 00:47:59,267 --> 00:48:01,704 So after the show was over, 878 00:48:03,010 --> 00:48:04,751 we took my makeup off, 879 00:48:04,794 --> 00:48:06,231 it takes a long time, 880 00:48:06,274 --> 00:48:08,276 and we went to the apartment 881 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:09,974 and one of the guys who'd put money in it, 882 00:48:10,017 --> 00:48:14,587 and Harvey Sabenson, a wonderful press agent, 883 00:48:14,630 --> 00:48:18,678 big-time press agent, had takenour show on for some reason, 884 00:48:18,721 --> 00:48:20,723 he came in with the reviews, 885 00:48:21,811 --> 00:48:23,813 and he started reading these reviews. 886 00:48:25,337 --> 00:48:27,556 First, the New York Times, in the opening paragraph 887 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,777 for the New York Times review, we're all sitting there, 888 00:48:33,649 --> 00:48:36,826 was, a one-man showcalled, Mark Twain Tonight, 889 00:48:36,870 --> 00:48:40,830 opened last night at the 41st Street Theater. 890 00:48:40,874 --> 00:48:43,572 It should have been posted up all over town, 891 00:48:43,616 --> 00:48:45,661 announcing its arrival. 892 00:48:47,185 --> 00:48:50,710 Rave review, and then heread Walter Kerr's review 893 00:48:50,753 --> 00:48:52,364 on the New York Herald Tribune, 894 00:48:52,407 --> 00:48:55,758 which was the other big, big drama critic, 895 00:48:55,802 --> 00:48:58,196 and he raved about the show. 896 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,589 Everybody in the whole country raved about it. 897 00:49:00,633 --> 00:49:01,939 Every paper in New York, 898 00:49:01,982 --> 00:49:06,944 every, Newsweek, Time, Life Magazine, everybody, 899 00:49:08,728 --> 00:49:09,728 and I was, 900 00:49:11,992 --> 00:49:12,992 I was, 901 00:49:14,255 --> 00:49:16,779 I wasn't just surprised, I was, 902 00:49:18,781 --> 00:49:22,698 thunderstruck, and also I was frightened, 903 00:49:23,873 --> 00:49:27,007 because I wanted this thing to be good, 904 00:49:27,051 --> 00:49:29,140 but I didn't want it to take over my life. 905 00:49:30,619 --> 00:49:32,404 I wanted to be an actor, 906 00:49:33,361 --> 00:49:35,668 not a one-man show, an actor. 907 00:49:36,756 --> 00:49:40,542 I wanted a career in New York, on the stage, 908 00:49:40,586 --> 00:49:42,240 and this was obliterating me, 909 00:49:42,283 --> 00:49:44,372 because nobody knew who I was. 910 00:49:46,287 --> 00:49:48,072 Mark Twain was the star. 911 00:49:49,551 --> 00:49:51,031 They'd never heard of me. 912 00:49:51,075 --> 00:49:52,511 They didn't know what I looked like, 913 00:49:52,554 --> 00:49:54,600 I had a three-hour makeup on. 914 00:49:55,427 --> 00:49:57,603 I looked like Mark Twain. 915 00:49:57,646 --> 00:50:00,867 Nobody knew who I was, where I came from, 916 00:50:00,910 --> 00:50:05,089 nothing about me, what Icould do, except Mark Twain. 917 00:50:05,132 --> 00:50:07,613 And I had to start all over again. 918 00:50:08,744 --> 00:50:11,095 - Young actors can do Hamlet all day long, 919 00:50:11,138 --> 00:50:12,792 not just because they're young, 920 00:50:12,835 --> 00:50:15,490 but because they haven't had the opportunity 921 00:50:15,534 --> 00:50:16,970 to express themselves. 922 00:50:18,406 --> 00:50:21,627 Once they're fulfilled, they move on, 923 00:50:21,670 --> 00:50:23,672 but when you've got somethingto give other people, 924 00:50:23,716 --> 00:50:24,934 and that's what drives you, 925 00:50:24,978 --> 00:50:26,501 this is what's particular to Hal. 926 00:50:26,545 --> 00:50:27,589 It's really, 927 00:50:29,113 --> 00:50:31,637 he's just fine alone. 928 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,813 So for him to be alone on stage 929 00:50:33,856 --> 00:50:35,467 in front of a lot of people, 930 00:50:36,816 --> 00:50:38,426 I know he's fulfilled by it, 931 00:50:38,470 --> 00:50:40,298 and I know that still does drive him, 932 00:50:40,341 --> 00:50:43,083 but I think he's a giver, 933 00:50:43,127 --> 00:50:46,608 and that's what becomes so moving about him, 934 00:50:46,652 --> 00:50:50,221 whether it's on a stage in Twain, or in movies, 935 00:50:50,264 --> 00:50:53,224 he's a special American actor. 936 00:50:53,267 --> 00:50:55,965 - He was so effortless. 937 00:50:57,271 --> 00:51:00,883 It was a kind of comfortthat you can only sort of 938 00:51:00,927 --> 00:51:04,887 earn by being on the boards for 58 years. 939 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,544 That level of confidence is one. 940 00:51:09,588 --> 00:51:12,504 But he also talked about how he could just 941 00:51:12,547 --> 00:51:14,854 pick certain sections to do on each night, 942 00:51:14,897 --> 00:51:17,291 like he knew the show so well, 943 00:51:17,335 --> 00:51:19,380 that he could just pick whichever monologues 944 00:51:19,424 --> 00:51:22,557 he felt that he wanted to do. 945 00:51:22,601 --> 00:51:23,993 And that is just 946 00:51:25,256 --> 00:51:27,867 such a level of mastery. 947 00:51:28,911 --> 00:51:30,304 Really, it's hard to even fathom, 948 00:51:30,348 --> 00:51:34,743 being that familiar with that much material. 949 00:51:34,787 --> 00:51:38,007 - And to think about Hal, walking out on stage, 950 00:51:41,968 --> 00:51:43,622 in these big auditoriums, 951 00:51:43,665 --> 00:51:45,537 and it's all on his shoulders. 952 00:51:50,890 --> 00:51:52,979 That takes some balls man, 953 00:51:53,022 --> 00:51:55,590 and to do it over 2000 times. 954 00:51:55,634 --> 00:51:57,418 - It's a very spiritual life, 955 00:51:57,462 --> 00:51:59,986 that's a real razor's edge 956 00:52:00,029 --> 00:52:03,381 to want to walk that, to have to walk that, 957 00:52:03,424 --> 00:52:05,470 to have to prove that, 958 00:52:05,513 --> 00:52:06,993 over and over and over, 959 00:52:07,036 --> 00:52:09,169 knowing that maybe 960 00:52:10,301 --> 00:52:14,218 one in 800 is gonna go, 961 00:52:14,261 --> 00:52:17,438 wow I just saw something spectacular. 962 00:52:17,482 --> 00:52:19,919 Because there's always that hope for an actor, 963 00:52:19,962 --> 00:52:22,748 that there's gonna be that one connection, 964 00:52:22,791 --> 00:52:24,532 and that's all you care about. 965 00:52:24,576 --> 00:52:26,882 It's all you care about, just that. 966 00:52:26,926 --> 00:52:29,929 - I think that actors are preachers. 967 00:52:31,365 --> 00:52:33,062 I think we're preachers. 968 00:52:35,978 --> 00:52:38,024 We're on a platform, a pulpit, 969 00:52:40,853 --> 00:52:44,509 and I think we have aresponsibility to use it well, 970 00:52:44,552 --> 00:52:46,075 not to degrade it, 971 00:52:47,947 --> 00:52:49,166 to elevate it, 972 00:52:51,516 --> 00:52:54,171 to make it give an audience something 973 00:52:54,214 --> 00:52:56,216 to take home with them, 974 00:52:56,260 --> 00:52:59,524 to keep with themselves intheir heart and their mind. 975 00:52:59,567 --> 00:53:00,960 I think that's very important. 976 00:53:02,396 --> 00:53:05,269 I was taught by my teacher, Ed Wright, at Denison, 977 00:53:05,312 --> 00:53:07,140 to respect this profession. 978 00:53:09,403 --> 00:53:11,492 I never wanted to be a movie star, 979 00:53:11,536 --> 00:53:13,886 I never made a movie till I was 40 years old. 980 00:53:15,104 --> 00:53:16,932 You talk to young kids today at a college, 981 00:53:16,976 --> 00:53:19,239 what do you want to do with your acting? 982 00:53:19,283 --> 00:53:20,936 I want to be in the movies. 983 00:53:22,024 --> 00:53:23,504 They want to be a star. 984 00:53:25,114 --> 00:53:26,681 They want to be a star. 985 00:53:28,379 --> 00:53:31,033 That's not what this profession is about. 986 00:53:31,077 --> 00:53:33,558 This is a fine profession. 987 00:53:33,601 --> 00:53:36,474 It has a great history at its back, 988 00:53:36,517 --> 00:53:39,128 stretching down the centuries, 989 00:53:39,172 --> 00:53:43,132 great, great actors from Garrick to Edmund Kean, 990 00:53:44,395 --> 00:53:46,701 to Edwin Forrest to Edwin Boothe. 991 00:53:49,008 --> 00:53:50,270 John Barrymore, 992 00:53:53,142 --> 00:53:54,883 all kinds of wonderful actors 993 00:53:54,927 --> 00:53:58,235 who have created a great tradition, 994 00:53:58,278 --> 00:54:00,889 and most young kids going into the theater, 995 00:54:00,933 --> 00:54:04,197 or showbiz today, they don'tknow anything about it. 996 00:54:04,241 --> 00:54:05,764 They don't have a tradition. 997 00:54:07,287 --> 00:54:11,770 And I don't, I don't feelcomfortable with that. 998 00:54:11,813 --> 00:54:15,034 I don't feel comfortablegoing out just for myself. 999 00:54:15,077 --> 00:54:19,430 I feel I have to be doingsomething, that means something, 1000 00:54:19,473 --> 00:54:20,953 that means something, 1001 00:54:24,130 --> 00:54:26,611 to people, otherwise what am I doing 1002 00:54:26,654 --> 00:54:29,048 sitting up in front of people talking, 1003 00:54:30,049 --> 00:54:31,659 performing, what am I? 1004 00:54:31,703 --> 00:54:32,703 A freak? 1005 00:54:33,748 --> 00:54:36,142 No, I want to send a message out there. 1006 00:55:28,803 --> 00:55:31,153 [mumbling] 1007 00:55:34,461 --> 00:55:37,072 In those days theyconverted you with an ax. 1008 00:55:37,116 --> 00:55:40,728 I always write to the encyclopedia of sin. 1009 00:55:46,125 --> 00:55:48,997 [soft piano music] 1010 00:56:26,295 --> 00:56:30,909 The cost of having a career, 1011 00:56:30,952 --> 00:56:33,041 certainly in this profession, 1012 00:56:33,085 --> 00:56:34,216 the costs are great. 1013 00:56:37,176 --> 00:56:40,005 Being an actor is not the kind of role 1014 00:56:40,048 --> 00:56:44,139 that a father is designed to play. 1015 00:56:44,183 --> 00:56:46,228 A father is supposed to come home at night, 1016 00:56:46,272 --> 00:56:50,015 be with the children, be with the wife, 1017 00:56:50,058 --> 00:56:51,190 be with the children, 1018 00:56:51,233 --> 00:56:53,148 not get divorced and marry two other women. 1019 00:56:56,195 --> 00:56:59,241 But actors work at night, 1020 00:57:02,549 --> 00:57:04,116 when everybody's having dinner 1021 00:57:04,159 --> 00:57:06,423 they rush away from thedinner table and go to work, 1022 00:57:06,466 --> 00:57:08,425 and they don't come home till midnight. 1023 00:57:09,904 --> 00:57:11,950 They go on the road, 1024 00:57:11,993 --> 00:57:13,517 for weeks and months, 1025 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:14,560 away from home. 1026 00:57:16,128 --> 00:57:19,436 They're subjected to all kinds of influences 1027 00:57:19,479 --> 00:57:21,829 and temptations, 1028 00:57:23,091 --> 00:57:25,485 that they don't even want to deal with, 1029 00:57:25,529 --> 00:57:26,530 but they're there, 1030 00:57:27,618 --> 00:57:29,271 they're right in front of you. 1031 00:57:32,449 --> 00:57:33,643 There's a great deal of attention 1032 00:57:33,667 --> 00:57:35,582 put on marriages I think, 1033 00:57:35,626 --> 00:57:37,845 especially if you haven't really grown up. 1034 00:57:39,064 --> 00:57:41,370 I certainly wasn't grown up at all. 1035 00:57:41,414 --> 00:57:43,416 I got myself involved in, 1036 00:57:47,551 --> 00:57:49,291 searching for love, 1037 00:57:51,337 --> 00:57:54,079 searching for kindness, 1038 00:57:54,122 --> 00:57:58,170 searching for the thing that 1039 00:57:58,213 --> 00:58:00,651 was never given to you whenyou were young, perhaps, 1040 00:58:00,694 --> 00:58:02,479 something like that. 1041 00:58:02,522 --> 00:58:05,307 You search for it andsearch for it all your life. 1042 00:58:07,396 --> 00:58:08,504 There's an awful lot of actors 1043 00:58:08,528 --> 00:58:10,835 that screw up a marriage, 1044 00:58:12,227 --> 00:58:13,707 and screw up their children, 1045 00:58:15,143 --> 00:58:18,495 because they're so dedicated, as I was, 1046 00:58:23,412 --> 00:58:27,329 to the job of acting, topursuing it and pursuing it, 1047 00:58:28,330 --> 00:58:31,159 that it took precedence over everything else. 1048 00:58:32,552 --> 00:58:36,295 I myself didn't make time for my children, 1049 00:58:36,338 --> 00:58:37,818 the way I should have. 1050 00:58:37,862 --> 00:58:39,516 I didn't really listen to them. 1051 00:58:40,734 --> 00:58:43,345 I put them second or third in line, 1052 00:58:44,259 --> 00:58:46,261 and they suffered from it. 1053 00:58:47,611 --> 00:58:49,264 - He focused on his work, 1054 00:58:49,308 --> 00:58:54,182 as a way to survive, and hewas desperate to survive, 1055 00:58:54,226 --> 00:58:55,140 and that was it, 1056 00:58:55,183 --> 00:58:56,881 so I very much had the feeling, 1057 00:58:58,056 --> 00:59:00,406 that I wasn't actually important to him, 1058 00:59:04,976 --> 00:59:06,194 there's a period for years, 1059 00:59:06,238 --> 00:59:09,894 I was actually doing what my grandfather did, 1060 00:59:09,937 --> 00:59:11,852 which was, my father's father, 1061 00:59:11,896 --> 00:59:14,289 which was hitchhiking around the country, 1062 00:59:14,333 --> 00:59:16,596 living like a hobo basically. 1063 00:59:18,032 --> 00:59:19,773 I was like a homeless person really, 1064 00:59:21,645 --> 00:59:24,299 and I was just kind of out there on my own, 1065 00:59:24,343 --> 00:59:28,608 and that would never happen to my son, 1066 00:59:30,001 --> 00:59:32,786 where if it did it would be in spite of me 1067 00:59:32,830 --> 00:59:34,353 trying to connect to him, 1068 00:59:34,396 --> 00:59:37,443 and making sure he's okay. 1069 00:59:37,486 --> 00:59:39,880 - Well, there were long periods where, 1070 00:59:39,924 --> 00:59:41,926 where I didn't see him. 1071 00:59:41,969 --> 00:59:44,972 There was a kind of feeling like 1072 00:59:45,016 --> 00:59:47,409 we're going out on a date now. 1073 00:59:47,453 --> 00:59:51,892 He's coming over to take me to dinner, 1074 00:59:51,936 --> 00:59:54,895 that added with the fact that, 1075 00:59:54,939 --> 00:59:59,247 my parents were also divorced, 1076 00:59:59,291 --> 01:00:02,947 that added even more of a sense of distance, 1077 01:00:02,990 --> 01:00:06,341 and maybe a little more formality 1078 01:00:06,385 --> 01:00:08,126 to our relationship. 1079 01:00:08,169 --> 01:00:09,431 - I probably 1080 01:00:10,824 --> 01:00:15,089 maybe even give too much to my kids in some ways. 1081 01:00:15,133 --> 01:00:16,351 It's not a conscious thing, 1082 01:00:16,395 --> 01:00:19,267 that like I'm gonna try to outperform my dad 1083 01:00:19,311 --> 01:00:22,619 as a father, but it's more just me needing 1084 01:00:24,403 --> 01:00:28,015 to heal that relationship in fantasy 1085 01:00:28,059 --> 01:00:32,629 by being the best dadthat I could possibly be, 1086 01:00:32,672 --> 01:00:34,413 and I feel like that, 1087 01:00:34,456 --> 01:00:37,459 to me that's the measure of a man, 1088 01:00:41,202 --> 01:00:42,202 more than anything. 1089 01:00:53,345 --> 01:00:55,477 [bird calling] 1090 01:00:55,521 --> 01:00:57,349 - My old friend Joe Twitchell, 1091 01:00:59,090 --> 01:01:00,395 a preacher of the gospel, 1092 01:01:00,439 --> 01:01:04,443 cautioned me to adopt a more 1093 01:01:05,444 --> 01:01:07,751 forgiving view of the human race, 1094 01:01:13,278 --> 01:01:14,975 but he was born calm, 1095 01:01:16,542 --> 01:01:18,631 I was born excited. 1096 01:01:18,675 --> 01:01:21,939 [audience laughing] 1097 01:01:21,982 --> 01:01:25,290 People call me a pessimist in my old age, 1098 01:01:30,991 --> 01:01:32,384 but I am an optimist 1099 01:01:32,427 --> 01:01:33,994 who did not arrive. 1100 01:01:37,998 --> 01:01:39,260 When I was a boy 1101 01:01:41,567 --> 01:01:44,004 in Hannibal, on the river, 1102 01:01:48,356 --> 01:01:50,576 we were all poor, 1103 01:01:53,492 --> 01:01:54,623 and didn't know it, 1104 01:01:59,411 --> 01:02:03,110 and we were all happy, 1105 01:02:04,938 --> 01:02:05,938 and did know it. 1106 01:02:12,598 --> 01:02:17,385 - There's a neurosis thatyou see in American people, 1107 01:02:17,429 --> 01:02:18,429 more and more. 1108 01:02:19,648 --> 01:02:23,652 And with him, there is none, it's generationally sound. 1109 01:02:25,132 --> 01:02:27,178 I guess what they call the great generation, 1110 01:02:27,221 --> 01:02:28,570 and what it really as to do with 1111 01:02:28,614 --> 01:02:32,705 is somebody who's generositylives in their solitude, 1112 01:02:34,185 --> 01:02:37,492 and in the solitude is aprivacy that's fascinating. 1113 01:02:37,536 --> 01:02:40,408 - He studied his own character, 1114 01:02:40,452 --> 01:02:42,933 like he would a character in a play, 1115 01:02:42,976 --> 01:02:46,545 and he's so interested in figuring it out. 1116 01:02:46,588 --> 01:02:48,416 That's one of the things that struck me, 1117 01:02:48,460 --> 01:02:52,769 how unflinching he was, in his review of himself. 1118 01:02:56,642 --> 01:02:58,296 He pulled no punches. 1119 01:03:02,213 --> 01:03:04,432 - All the things that happened to you 1120 01:03:04,476 --> 01:03:06,826 come together as you get older, 1121 01:03:06,870 --> 01:03:10,874 and they affect, very deeply affect 1122 01:03:11,918 --> 01:03:15,182 what you do with your acting, 1123 01:03:15,226 --> 01:03:19,665 and it becomes like this deep well of experience 1124 01:03:19,708 --> 01:03:22,755 that you just, you don't have to reach very far, 1125 01:03:22,799 --> 01:03:25,845 it's right there, you just have to touch it. 1126 01:03:25,889 --> 01:03:27,586 And as the years went by, 1127 01:03:27,629 --> 01:03:32,634 became a source of tremendousexpression for me, Mark Twain. 1128 01:03:33,853 --> 01:03:36,377 It became a source of being able to get 1129 01:03:37,639 --> 01:03:41,513 my frustrations about life out, get them out, 1130 01:03:41,556 --> 01:03:43,254 and get them out in a healthy way. 1131 01:03:45,038 --> 01:03:46,886 - [Interviewer] Does Twainallow you to say things 1132 01:03:46,910 --> 01:03:50,435 that you wouldn'totherwise be able to say? 1133 01:03:51,697 --> 01:03:53,873 - That's been very true, 1134 01:03:53,917 --> 01:03:56,484 especially when I went into the South. 1135 01:03:56,528 --> 01:03:58,791 In the late 50's and the 60's, 1136 01:03:58,835 --> 01:04:02,099 I saw some pretty tough things, 1137 01:04:02,142 --> 01:04:05,537 and I had, I got beat up once, real bad. 1138 01:04:06,581 --> 01:04:08,932 And I had to take chances, 1139 01:04:08,975 --> 01:04:12,936 but I just had the feelingthat in the silence, 1140 01:04:12,979 --> 01:04:15,286 because the response was silent. 1141 01:04:16,504 --> 01:04:19,812 The response to the material was silence, 1142 01:04:21,031 --> 01:04:23,468 and I just realized that in the silence 1143 01:04:23,511 --> 01:04:24,948 there was a desire, 1144 01:04:29,604 --> 01:04:32,042 a knowledge thatsomething had to be done, 1145 01:04:33,608 --> 01:04:37,525 and a desire to listen tosomebody who would say it. 1146 01:04:38,352 --> 01:04:39,614 And Twain could say it. 1147 01:04:40,833 --> 01:04:44,706 Joe Keating, my stage managerand I came to Chicago, 1148 01:04:44,750 --> 01:04:46,708 and we're reading in the paper, 1149 01:04:46,752 --> 01:04:49,886 on the front page is all thisabout Oxford, Mississippi, 1150 01:04:49,929 --> 01:04:51,061 and Ole Miss, 1151 01:04:51,104 --> 01:04:53,454 the college there, 1152 01:04:54,891 --> 01:04:56,936 and this huge riot going on, 1153 01:04:56,980 --> 01:04:59,547 and President Kennedy had sent in 1154 01:04:59,591 --> 01:05:03,116 I think 5000 troops from the 101st Airborne, 1155 01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:10,167 because this man namedMerideth, James Merideth, a young black man, 1156 01:05:10,210 --> 01:05:13,518 had decided to try to integrate the classes, 1157 01:05:13,561 --> 01:05:18,001 so I got to Chicago and Icalled my agent and said, 1158 01:05:18,044 --> 01:05:19,828 Klaus what's going on? 1159 01:05:19,872 --> 01:05:23,049 We're supposed to go to Oxfordafter playing Northwestern. 1160 01:05:24,746 --> 01:05:26,400 How can we go there? 1161 01:05:26,444 --> 01:05:30,578 And he said, well Hal, theyhaven't said you shouldn't come. 1162 01:05:30,622 --> 01:05:32,450 So we got on a plane to Memphis, 1163 01:05:32,493 --> 01:05:34,321 rented a car and drove to Oxford, 1164 01:05:34,365 --> 01:05:35,583 checked into the motel, 1165 01:05:35,627 --> 01:05:38,064 and it was filled with the New York Times, 1166 01:05:38,108 --> 01:05:41,024 the Washington Post, the Associated Press, 1167 01:05:41,067 --> 01:05:44,157 all the leading byline writers 1168 01:05:44,201 --> 01:05:46,290 for the Civil Rights Movement. 1169 01:05:46,333 --> 01:05:50,772 So we were invited to thehome of the man who was 1170 01:05:50,816 --> 01:05:53,123 head of the English department, on the night before, 1171 01:05:53,166 --> 01:05:55,603 so we go to his house, 1172 01:05:55,647 --> 01:05:59,172 and we sit in his den, andwe're having a scotch and soda, 1173 01:05:59,216 --> 01:06:01,218 and we're drinking and talking, 1174 01:06:01,261 --> 01:06:04,656 we're talking about Faulkner, this is his home town, 1175 01:06:04,699 --> 01:06:06,136 the whole bit. 1176 01:06:06,179 --> 01:06:09,530 And nobody's mentioning what's going on. 1177 01:06:09,574 --> 01:06:12,925 I mean there's trucks going by in the Army, 1178 01:06:12,969 --> 01:06:14,709 and nobody's mentioning a word, 1179 01:06:14,753 --> 01:06:17,625 being very nice and so finally I said, 1180 01:06:17,669 --> 01:06:20,628 well maybe a little humor will work. 1181 01:06:20,672 --> 01:06:22,065 So I finally said, 1182 01:06:23,544 --> 01:06:25,807 well look we brought oursheets, we brought our sheets, 1183 01:06:25,851 --> 01:06:28,419 and we cut holes in them for our eyes. 1184 01:06:29,768 --> 01:06:31,770 Should we wear them tomorrow night? 1185 01:06:34,903 --> 01:06:37,906 My stage manager was shocked, 1186 01:06:37,950 --> 01:06:40,822 but the English teacher and his wife, 1187 01:06:40,866 --> 01:06:44,217 it didn't phase them, theyjust were very serious, 1188 01:06:44,261 --> 01:06:45,610 and then he said, 1189 01:06:46,915 --> 01:06:49,701 well we don't think there'sgoing to be any trouble. 1190 01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:52,920 I thought, 1191 01:06:54,923 --> 01:06:57,709 he doesn't think, wait a minute. 1192 01:06:59,102 --> 01:07:01,191 There will be federal men in the audience, 1193 01:07:01,234 --> 01:07:03,280 oh my heart started beating, 1194 01:07:03,323 --> 01:07:05,282 and we'll have some backstage. 1195 01:07:05,325 --> 01:07:08,111 They didn't have a realtheater, it was in the chapel, 1196 01:07:08,154 --> 01:07:09,721 and it was about eight o'clock, 1197 01:07:09,764 --> 01:07:10,852 it wasn't entirely dark, 1198 01:07:10,896 --> 01:07:12,680 and they have the big windows you know, 1199 01:07:12,724 --> 01:07:14,769 so there was a little light coming in. 1200 01:07:14,813 --> 01:07:16,597 Just before I went on, 1201 01:07:18,469 --> 01:07:19,469 one of those 1202 01:07:21,124 --> 01:07:23,865 good old boy stage hands, you know, 1203 01:07:23,909 --> 01:07:25,476 comes up to me and says, Hal, 1204 01:07:28,566 --> 01:07:32,396 watch out for the guys withsquirrel rifles in the trees. 1205 01:07:34,311 --> 01:07:36,095 Oh thank you very much, 1206 01:07:36,139 --> 01:07:38,054 and I went out on stage, 1207 01:07:38,097 --> 01:07:40,447 and I'm eyeing these windows on the side, 1208 01:07:40,491 --> 01:07:43,059 I'm thinking oh my heart isgoing, my legs are going. 1209 01:07:44,277 --> 01:07:46,714 So I didn't know what to do. 1210 01:07:46,758 --> 01:07:48,083 I had all this wonderful stuff about 1211 01:07:48,107 --> 01:07:49,761 the silent lie of slavery, 1212 01:07:49,804 --> 01:07:53,765 how you can lie aboutanything, including slavery, 1213 01:07:53,808 --> 01:07:55,636 by remaining silent. 1214 01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,596 So I thought I would go out on stage, 1215 01:07:58,639 --> 01:07:59,771 I had a full house, 1216 01:08:01,512 --> 01:08:05,733 and I would do the show andlisten and listen and listen 1217 01:08:05,777 --> 01:08:07,518 to that audience, 1218 01:08:07,561 --> 01:08:10,956 and decide by the time itcame to the second act, 1219 01:08:10,999 --> 01:08:13,698 whether I would go for the big stuff, 1220 01:08:13,741 --> 01:08:16,788 or do something else that was softer. 1221 01:08:16,831 --> 01:08:18,790 So I already did the first act 1222 01:08:18,833 --> 01:08:20,661 and the audience was wonderful 1223 01:08:20,705 --> 01:08:23,795 but there was something held back, 1224 01:08:23,838 --> 01:08:28,365 and my sense told me that theywere waiting for something, 1225 01:08:28,408 --> 01:08:30,758 that they knew about my show. 1226 01:08:30,802 --> 01:08:32,847 That's why they brought me there, 1227 01:08:32,891 --> 01:08:36,460 so in the second act I decided to go for it. 1228 01:08:36,503 --> 01:08:40,768 I decided to trust the people 1229 01:08:41,987 --> 01:08:43,989 down there in the South. 1230 01:08:44,032 --> 01:08:45,773 I heard, what I thought I heard, 1231 01:08:45,817 --> 01:08:50,822 was that they were takingit in and thinking it over, 1232 01:08:52,345 --> 01:08:54,826 and that there was a lotmore going on down there, 1233 01:08:54,869 --> 01:08:59,787 in the mind of the people, thanpeople up north understood. 1234 01:09:00,484 --> 01:09:02,181 I don't mean to suggest 1235 01:09:02,225 --> 01:09:06,054 that the custom of lying has suffered any decay. 1236 01:09:06,881 --> 01:09:07,969 It couldn't, 1237 01:09:09,362 --> 01:09:10,929 for the lie is eternal. 1238 01:09:12,148 --> 01:09:15,281 It is man's best and surest friend, 1239 01:09:15,325 --> 01:09:17,283 and it cannot perish from the Earth 1240 01:09:17,327 --> 01:09:19,894 while Congress remains in session. 1241 01:09:19,938 --> 01:09:22,941 [audience laughing] 1242 01:09:25,161 --> 01:09:27,728 No, when I talk about the decay 1243 01:09:30,253 --> 01:09:31,384 in the art 1244 01:09:33,038 --> 01:09:35,823 of lying, I'm talking about the silent lie. 1245 01:09:37,347 --> 01:09:41,002 It requires no art, you simply keep still, 1246 01:09:41,046 --> 01:09:42,917 and conceal the truth. 1247 01:09:46,007 --> 01:09:48,923 For example, it would not be possible 1248 01:09:48,967 --> 01:09:52,057 for a humane and intelligent person, 1249 01:09:53,276 --> 01:09:56,409 to invent a rational excuse for slavery, 1250 01:09:57,976 --> 01:10:01,980 and yet in those early daysof the Emancipation agitation, 1251 01:10:04,809 --> 01:10:09,814 in the North those agitatorsgot small help from anyone. 1252 01:10:11,076 --> 01:10:15,254 Argue and plead and pray as they might, 1253 01:10:16,473 --> 01:10:18,823 they could not break the universal stillness 1254 01:10:18,866 --> 01:10:21,260 that ran from pulpit and press, 1255 01:10:21,304 --> 01:10:25,308 all the way down to the bottom of society, 1256 01:10:25,351 --> 01:10:28,746 the clammy stillness, 1257 01:10:30,748 --> 01:10:34,012 created and maintained bythe lie of silent assertion, 1258 01:10:34,055 --> 01:10:37,929 the silent assertion thatthere wasn't anything going on, 1259 01:10:37,972 --> 01:10:40,018 in which humane and intelligent people 1260 01:10:40,061 --> 01:10:42,063 ought to be interested. 1261 01:10:44,631 --> 01:10:47,286 Well, when all nations of people 1262 01:10:47,330 --> 01:10:51,943 can aspire to propagate gigantic 1263 01:10:51,986 --> 01:10:54,815 mute lies like that one, 1264 01:10:54,859 --> 01:10:57,775 in the interest of tyrannies and shams, 1265 01:10:57,818 --> 01:10:59,080 why should we care anything 1266 01:10:59,124 --> 01:11:01,648 about the trifling ones told by individuals, 1267 01:11:01,692 --> 01:11:03,084 why make them undesirable? 1268 01:11:04,651 --> 01:11:08,438 Why not be honest and honorableand lie every chance we get? 1269 01:11:09,917 --> 01:11:12,920 Why should we help the nationlie the whole day long? 1270 01:11:12,964 --> 01:11:17,664 And then object to tellingone little, insignificant, 1271 01:11:17,708 --> 01:11:19,013 private lie? 1272 01:11:21,494 --> 01:11:23,148 In our own interest, 1273 01:11:26,151 --> 01:11:28,109 just for the refreshment of it I mean, 1274 01:11:29,459 --> 01:11:32,418 and to take the rancid taste out of our mouths. 1275 01:11:34,464 --> 01:11:38,946 No, there's no art to this silent lying. 1276 01:11:38,990 --> 01:11:40,296 It is timid, 1277 01:11:43,299 --> 01:11:44,299 and shabby. 1278 01:11:46,127 --> 01:11:48,129 And then I take a big pause, 1279 01:11:48,173 --> 01:11:50,784 and walked back acrossthe stage to the lectern, 1280 01:11:50,828 --> 01:11:53,526 let that pause sit there, 1281 01:11:53,570 --> 01:11:57,051 so the audience has tosit with this hot potato. 1282 01:11:57,095 --> 01:11:58,246 They can't get up and walk out. 1283 01:11:58,270 --> 01:12:00,838 They're stuck they have to think about it. 1284 01:12:02,100 --> 01:12:06,104 Long pause, the audience broke into applause. 1285 01:12:08,411 --> 01:12:09,411 They applauded. 1286 01:12:10,935 --> 01:12:14,330 Only three times, in all thetimes I've done this show, 1287 01:12:14,373 --> 01:12:15,635 that I did that number, 1288 01:12:15,679 --> 01:12:19,944 only three times has the audience ever applauded, 1289 01:12:19,987 --> 01:12:21,119 at that moment. 1290 01:12:21,162 --> 01:12:22,722 I don't ask for applause, don't want it. 1291 01:12:23,643 --> 01:12:25,950 First time was in Hamburg, Germany, 1292 01:12:27,430 --> 01:12:28,822 1961, 1293 01:12:30,041 --> 01:12:35,046 second time was inOxford, Mississippi, 1962, 1294 01:12:36,569 --> 01:12:38,615 and the third time was inPrague, Czechoslovakia, 1295 01:12:38,658 --> 01:12:41,705 behind the iron curtain in 1986. 1296 01:12:41,748 --> 01:12:43,707 At the end of the show, 1297 01:12:43,750 --> 01:12:46,579 the newspaper guys said, how do you explain this? 1298 01:12:48,538 --> 01:12:50,366 How do you explain this Hal? 1299 01:12:50,409 --> 01:12:53,064 I was sitting on the aislelooking at the window 1300 01:12:53,107 --> 01:12:54,370 that was a little open, 1301 01:12:54,413 --> 01:12:56,372 and wondered if I could get out the window, 1302 01:12:56,415 --> 01:12:58,504 when you started that silent lie. 1303 01:12:58,548 --> 01:13:00,027 How do you explain this response? 1304 01:13:00,071 --> 01:13:01,681 And I said, how do you explain it? 1305 01:13:03,422 --> 01:13:06,556 You were there, how do you explain it? 1306 01:13:08,122 --> 01:13:10,211 What you saw tonight was something good. 1307 01:13:10,255 --> 01:13:12,518 A lot of bad stuff has been going on down here, 1308 01:13:12,562 --> 01:13:15,826 and you've been reportingabout it, and it should be, 1309 01:13:15,869 --> 01:13:18,219 but now you saw something good, 1310 01:13:18,263 --> 01:13:19,917 why don't you write about it? 1311 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:21,788 Well, they didn't write about it. 1312 01:13:23,137 --> 01:13:25,052 They did not write about it. 1313 01:13:25,096 --> 01:13:28,186 - Hal as Twain is embodying Twain, 1314 01:13:28,229 --> 01:13:29,579 as a critic of his nation, 1315 01:13:29,622 --> 01:13:31,668 at a time when we really need him. 1316 01:13:31,711 --> 01:13:33,713 So at a time when most Americans 1317 01:13:33,757 --> 01:13:37,195 still tend to view Twain as, oh yes, 1318 01:13:37,238 --> 01:13:39,458 that entertaining humorist, 1319 01:13:39,502 --> 01:13:41,417 someone I'd call the tame Twain. 1320 01:13:42,940 --> 01:13:46,073 How is giving them a Twainwho isn't tame at all, 1321 01:13:46,117 --> 01:13:48,075 who's wild, who's subversive, 1322 01:13:48,119 --> 01:13:50,948 who's feeling critical of his country? 1323 01:13:50,991 --> 01:13:53,777 This is a Twain that we really, really need, 1324 01:13:53,820 --> 01:13:55,692 and Hal has done more than anyone else, 1325 01:13:55,735 --> 01:13:58,172 including all the scholars put together, 1326 01:13:58,216 --> 01:13:59,783 all the biographers put together, 1327 01:13:59,826 --> 01:14:02,699 in helping Americans understand 1328 01:14:02,742 --> 01:14:07,747 Twain the critic, Twain the subversive skeptic, 1329 01:14:08,922 --> 01:14:10,117 Twain who loved his country so much 1330 01:14:10,141 --> 01:14:11,795 he couldn't help but criticize it 1331 01:14:11,838 --> 01:14:13,666 when it was going down the wrong path. 1332 01:14:26,374 --> 01:14:29,160 [crowd murmuring] 1333 01:14:30,553 --> 01:14:33,817 - [Usher] You're gonna be in aisle four, 1334 01:14:33,860 --> 01:14:35,383 all the way down to your left. 1335 01:14:49,702 --> 01:14:50,877 - [Man] 15 minutes Hal. 1336 01:14:54,794 --> 01:14:58,319 - He has changed a lot. 1337 01:14:59,233 --> 01:15:02,628 He's much more able to listen, 1338 01:15:02,672 --> 01:15:04,717 and be a little bit of a nurturer. 1339 01:15:04,761 --> 01:15:07,459 You know, he told me there'snothing you can say to me, 1340 01:15:08,939 --> 01:15:12,159 that would make me angry at you, or reject you. 1341 01:15:13,421 --> 01:15:14,821 I want the truth, tell me the truth, 1342 01:15:15,641 --> 01:15:17,425 which was like, are you kidding? 1343 01:15:18,731 --> 01:15:20,951 I never thought that would happen. 1344 01:15:20,994 --> 01:15:23,040 - It's possible to love someone, 1345 01:15:23,083 --> 01:15:25,390 and not be very good at showing it, 1346 01:15:25,433 --> 01:15:26,565 but that's hard, 1347 01:15:26,609 --> 01:15:29,655 it's hard for the person who's being loved, 1348 01:15:29,699 --> 01:15:32,310 because you need someone to show it, 1349 01:15:32,353 --> 01:15:37,358 to really experience it, andto really believe it I guess. 1350 01:15:38,446 --> 01:15:41,275 So I think that's what my mother 1351 01:15:41,319 --> 01:15:43,321 was able to do for Hal, 1352 01:15:43,364 --> 01:15:45,584 is that she loved him and she showed it. 1353 01:15:45,628 --> 01:15:48,282 - It was so easy to love Dixie, 1354 01:15:48,326 --> 01:15:50,502 and she was so loving, you know, of me, 1355 01:15:50,546 --> 01:15:53,374 and she was so wonderful with my father, 1356 01:15:53,418 --> 01:15:57,117 and he was just soembraced by Dixie's family. 1357 01:15:57,161 --> 01:15:59,206 He never had a family like that. 1358 01:15:59,250 --> 01:16:01,644 - My mother disappeared, just left, 1359 01:16:02,732 --> 01:16:06,387 left us in the playpen all untended, 1360 01:16:08,999 --> 01:16:11,175 and my father followed her, 1361 01:16:11,218 --> 01:16:15,701 and we were never told why our parents left, 1362 01:16:15,745 --> 01:16:17,616 why our mother left. 1363 01:16:17,660 --> 01:16:20,271 I never had any comfort when I was a kid, 1364 01:16:20,314 --> 01:16:21,968 like somebody to hug me. 1365 01:16:26,146 --> 01:16:28,801 It never occurred to me untiljust a little while ago, 1366 01:16:28,845 --> 01:16:31,674 I didn't have a family, I wasn't trained 1367 01:16:31,717 --> 01:16:33,284 to be a part of a family. 1368 01:16:34,415 --> 01:16:35,460 And they trained me. 1369 01:16:36,853 --> 01:16:38,463 They have trained me over the years. 1370 01:16:38,506 --> 01:16:41,597 They've trained me, andDixie trained me in her way. 1371 01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:45,601 She always put the important thing first, 1372 01:16:45,644 --> 01:16:48,386 the important human thing first. 1373 01:16:49,909 --> 01:16:53,434 She renewed my respect 1374 01:16:53,478 --> 01:16:55,219 for what I was doing. 1375 01:16:55,262 --> 01:16:58,526 She kept telling me how important it was, 1376 01:16:58,570 --> 01:16:59,570 what I was doing, 1377 01:17:00,964 --> 01:17:02,443 how important the show was, 1378 01:17:02,487 --> 01:17:04,402 and what it could give people. 1379 01:17:05,751 --> 01:17:08,362 That was wonderful to havesomebody stand by your side, 1380 01:17:08,406 --> 01:17:11,670 and remind you of that, you know, 1381 01:17:11,714 --> 01:17:16,719 because it lifted it up toa better level in your head. 1382 01:17:24,117 --> 01:17:27,468 I have to be very carefulwhen I think of Dixie, 1383 01:17:27,512 --> 01:17:30,080 and I have to be verycareful when I'm doing Twain, 1384 01:17:31,777 --> 01:17:34,693 to get lost in thinking about her. 1385 01:17:34,737 --> 01:17:37,435 If there's a certain point, and there is a point, 1386 01:17:37,478 --> 01:17:39,045 it's very dangerous for me. 1387 01:17:41,091 --> 01:17:43,310 It's been happening in the past year, 1388 01:17:43,354 --> 01:17:45,356 when I, oddly enough, 1389 01:17:49,273 --> 01:17:51,188 it's when in Huckleberry Finn, 1390 01:17:54,713 --> 01:17:56,062 when I talk about, 1391 01:18:00,501 --> 01:18:02,678 Jim and me we found a raft. 1392 01:18:04,462 --> 01:18:06,551 We were off down in that river together. 1393 01:18:09,946 --> 01:18:12,557 We run nights, and lay it up and hid daytime. 1394 01:18:13,558 --> 01:18:15,342 We just let that raft float 1395 01:18:16,474 --> 01:18:18,215 wherever the current water took it. 1396 01:18:18,258 --> 01:18:19,956 It's lovely to live on a raft. 1397 01:18:21,174 --> 01:18:23,481 We'd lay on our backs and smoke our pipes, 1398 01:18:24,525 --> 01:18:26,876 looking up at the sky. 1399 01:18:26,919 --> 01:18:29,443 So I think of Dixie then sometimes, 1400 01:18:29,487 --> 01:18:33,056 and I have to really work at it, 1401 01:18:33,099 --> 01:18:36,015 not to give away, because, 1402 01:18:37,495 --> 01:18:39,715 now you see that's afunny thing about acting. 1403 01:18:40,890 --> 01:18:45,764 Here I am talking about this black slave, 1404 01:18:45,808 --> 01:18:50,551 and this ignorant young juvenile delinquent, 1405 01:18:52,945 --> 01:18:55,643 and floating down theMississippi river on a raft. 1406 01:18:57,645 --> 01:19:00,518 If I start thinking aboutmy wife, I'm in trouble. 1407 01:19:02,389 --> 01:19:03,389 I'm in trouble, 1408 01:19:04,435 --> 01:19:07,917 because there's a connection there. 1409 01:19:09,179 --> 01:19:14,184 It's strange, that's what's so amazing about 1410 01:19:15,663 --> 01:19:18,579 people and acting, there'sa connection there. 1411 01:19:20,016 --> 01:19:21,408 There's a very profound connection, 1412 01:19:21,452 --> 01:19:24,063 it all has to with a person's emotions, 1413 01:19:25,238 --> 01:19:28,024 how you feel deeply about something. 1414 01:19:31,331 --> 01:19:34,247 You know the first performance I had 1415 01:19:34,291 --> 01:19:35,988 after Dixie passed away, 1416 01:19:38,295 --> 01:19:42,125 oddly enough I had beenbooked into Elmira, New York, 1417 01:19:44,867 --> 01:19:48,653 in 2010, April 21st, 1418 01:19:49,872 --> 01:19:54,790 the 100th anniversary of Mark Twain's death, 1419 01:19:55,616 --> 01:19:56,661 to the day, 1420 01:19:57,836 --> 01:19:59,446 they booked me back there. 1421 01:20:01,100 --> 01:20:02,623 Dixie died on the 10th. 1422 01:20:04,103 --> 01:20:07,324 I had to cancel a few showsbecause of her illness. 1423 01:20:08,847 --> 01:20:10,501 I wanted to do that show 1424 01:20:11,632 --> 01:20:13,896 in Elmira, where Mark Twain is buried, 1425 01:20:13,939 --> 01:20:15,593 and his wife is buried, 1426 01:20:16,594 --> 01:20:19,336 because he adored his wife, he loved his wife, 1427 01:20:19,379 --> 01:20:20,511 adored his wife. 1428 01:20:21,686 --> 01:20:25,646 And so I did, I did the show. 1429 01:20:28,475 --> 01:20:30,042 And it was quite a wonderful night, 1430 01:20:30,086 --> 01:20:33,132 and at the end of the show I put something in, 1431 01:20:34,351 --> 01:20:36,962 a little selection that I occasionally did, 1432 01:20:37,006 --> 01:20:39,878 but I hadn't done it for a long time, 1433 01:20:39,922 --> 01:20:44,013 but I thought, you'd better be careful. 1434 01:20:45,928 --> 01:20:48,844 Do you think you canreally get away with this? 1435 01:20:48,887 --> 01:20:52,499 And I thought, I'm gonna do it. 1436 01:20:52,543 --> 01:20:54,501 And when he talks about his wife, 1437 01:20:54,545 --> 01:20:56,721 and how he got married and all, 1438 01:20:56,764 --> 01:21:01,334 and how he had to ask permission 1439 01:21:01,378 --> 01:21:04,903 of his future father-in-law, 1440 01:21:04,947 --> 01:21:06,078 his wife's father, 1441 01:21:06,122 --> 01:21:07,514 Mister Langdon. 1442 01:21:07,558 --> 01:21:11,170 I referred Mister Langdonto six prominent gentlemen 1443 01:21:11,214 --> 01:21:13,303 out here, and we waited. 1444 01:21:13,346 --> 01:21:15,871 The letters finallycame, and I was sent for. 1445 01:21:17,394 --> 01:21:20,179 Each one of those men hadbeen frank, to a fault. 1446 01:21:21,615 --> 01:21:24,749 They not only spoke of me in disapproval, 1447 01:21:25,663 --> 01:21:27,578 they were enthusiastic about it. 1448 01:21:27,621 --> 01:21:30,624 [audience laughing] 1449 01:21:32,626 --> 01:21:35,151 One of them said I deserved to be hanged. 1450 01:21:37,762 --> 01:21:40,156 When Mister Langdon finishedreading those letters, 1451 01:21:40,199 --> 01:21:42,462 there was a good deal of a pause, 1452 01:21:42,506 --> 01:21:45,944 it was filled mostly withsadness and solemnity. 1453 01:21:45,988 --> 01:21:47,772 I didn't know what to say and, 1454 01:21:49,034 --> 01:21:52,472 Libby's father was apparentlyin the same condition. 1455 01:21:53,865 --> 01:21:56,694 Finally he said to me, whatkind of people are these? 1456 01:21:57,869 --> 01:21:59,784 Haven't you got a friend in the world? 1457 01:22:01,699 --> 01:22:03,614 I said, apparently not. 1458 01:22:05,050 --> 01:22:06,660 Then I'll be your friend. 1459 01:22:07,661 --> 01:22:09,707 Take the girl, I know you better than they do. 1460 01:22:11,100 --> 01:22:15,060 And so in this dramatic way, 1461 01:22:16,061 --> 01:22:17,933 we became engaged, 1462 01:22:19,195 --> 01:22:23,721 and for 34 years, 1463 01:22:25,201 --> 01:22:27,072 wherever she was, 1464 01:22:27,116 --> 01:22:31,947 there was Eden. 1465 01:22:36,038 --> 01:22:37,517 Wherever she was, 1466 01:22:38,692 --> 01:22:39,693 there was Eden. 1467 01:22:52,271 --> 01:22:53,751 Oh Lord, our Father, 1468 01:22:55,883 --> 01:22:58,495 our young patriots, idols of our hearts, 1469 01:22:59,757 --> 01:23:01,063 go forth to battle, 1470 01:23:02,716 --> 01:23:03,891 be Thou near them. 1471 01:23:07,025 --> 01:23:09,767 With them in spirit, we also go forth, 1472 01:23:10,986 --> 01:23:13,510 from the sweet peace of our beloved firesides 1473 01:23:13,553 --> 01:23:15,033 to smite the foe. 1474 01:23:17,644 --> 01:23:18,515 O Lord our God, 1475 01:23:18,558 --> 01:23:20,038 help us to tear their soldiers 1476 01:23:20,082 --> 01:23:22,388 to bloody shreds with our shells; 1477 01:23:24,869 --> 01:23:26,914 help us to cover their smiling fields 1478 01:23:26,958 --> 01:23:30,962 with the pale forms of their patriot dead; 1479 01:23:33,573 --> 01:23:36,054 help us to drown the thunder of the guns 1480 01:23:36,098 --> 01:23:39,884 with the shrieks of theirwounded, writhing in pain; 1481 01:23:43,540 --> 01:23:45,890 help us to lay waste their humble homes 1482 01:23:45,933 --> 01:23:47,413 with a hurricane of fire; 1483 01:23:48,893 --> 01:23:50,982 to turn them out roofless 1484 01:23:52,723 --> 01:23:54,029 with their little children 1485 01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,382 to wander unfriended in the wastes 1486 01:23:59,425 --> 01:24:03,777 of their desolated land inrags and hunger and thirst, 1487 01:24:03,821 --> 01:24:07,346 sports of the sun flames of summer, 1488 01:24:07,390 --> 01:24:09,957 and the icy winds of winter, 1489 01:24:10,001 --> 01:24:13,787 broken in spirit, worn with travail, 1490 01:24:13,831 --> 01:24:18,792 imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave, 1491 01:24:19,750 --> 01:24:20,968 and denied it. 1492 01:24:23,841 --> 01:24:25,843 For our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, 1493 01:24:25,886 --> 01:24:28,150 blast their hopes, blight their lives, 1494 01:24:29,325 --> 01:24:31,718 protract their bitter pilgrimage, 1495 01:24:31,762 --> 01:24:33,677 make heavy their steps, 1496 01:24:35,983 --> 01:24:37,637 stain the white snow 1497 01:24:38,856 --> 01:24:40,858 with the blood of their wounded feet. 1498 01:24:43,208 --> 01:24:45,906 We ask it, in the spirit of love, 1499 01:24:45,950 --> 01:24:49,084 [audience laughing] 1500 01:24:49,127 --> 01:24:51,956 of Him Who is the Source of Love, 1501 01:24:53,827 --> 01:24:56,526 the ever-faithful refuge and friend 1502 01:24:57,353 --> 01:24:59,877 of all that are sore beset 1503 01:25:00,965 --> 01:25:02,271 and seek His aid 1504 01:25:03,141 --> 01:25:07,493 with humble and contrite hearts. 1505 01:25:11,845 --> 01:25:12,890 Amen. 1506 01:25:31,256 --> 01:25:32,953 - He is frailer now, 1507 01:25:32,997 --> 01:25:37,219 he doesn't have the sameyouthful vigor, obviously. 1508 01:25:37,262 --> 01:25:39,960 He is older than Mark Twain was, 1509 01:25:40,004 --> 01:25:44,791 so now in a way, it's an even greater challenge, 1510 01:25:44,835 --> 01:25:46,619 than when he was a young man, 1511 01:25:46,663 --> 01:25:50,797 and to take on an even greater challenge 1512 01:25:50,841 --> 01:25:53,148 in your mid and late 80's. 1513 01:26:01,895 --> 01:26:03,897 - I see the pauses that he takes, 1514 01:26:03,941 --> 01:26:07,814 I see he takes a lot of time now. 1515 01:26:07,858 --> 01:26:10,556 I'm sure that it has a lotto do with getting older, 1516 01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:14,647 but also I think it's that he really cares 1517 01:26:14,691 --> 01:26:15,822 about this material, 1518 01:26:15,866 --> 01:26:17,172 and he really wants people 1519 01:26:20,349 --> 01:26:21,785 to get it. 1520 01:26:21,828 --> 01:26:23,743 - To sense that kind of commitment, 1521 01:26:23,787 --> 01:26:27,834 that kind of, I'm going togive you everything I've got, 1522 01:26:27,878 --> 01:26:31,186 and in a country that is so adept 1523 01:26:31,229 --> 01:26:33,884 at neglecting its geniuses, 1524 01:26:33,927 --> 01:26:38,367 Hal Holbrook kept Mark Twainwith us in such a present way, 1525 01:26:38,410 --> 01:26:40,934 and Mark Twain is not one of those geniuses 1526 01:26:40,978 --> 01:26:42,240 that we've neglected, 1527 01:26:42,284 --> 01:26:44,590 and we can only wonder if he might have been, 1528 01:26:44,634 --> 01:26:48,725 had it not been for Halsaying, no no no, not this guy, 1529 01:26:48,768 --> 01:26:49,876 you're not forgetting this guy. 1530 01:26:49,900 --> 01:26:52,207 - It's so much a part of America, 1531 01:26:52,250 --> 01:26:54,339 and he's so much a part of America, 1532 01:26:54,383 --> 01:26:56,123 I'm talking about Hal, 1533 01:26:56,167 --> 01:26:57,821 not Mark Twain, 1534 01:26:57,864 --> 01:27:01,781 he's driven it, he'sperformed all over the place. 1535 01:27:01,825 --> 01:27:03,305 America is all over that guy, 1536 01:27:03,348 --> 01:27:05,959 you put a camera on him, and it's America. 1537 01:27:06,003 --> 01:27:09,267 - Now has he become more like Twain, 1538 01:27:09,311 --> 01:27:11,748 by performing Twain all these years? 1539 01:27:11,791 --> 01:27:14,968 Probably, but was he first attracted to Twain 1540 01:27:15,012 --> 01:27:17,406 because those affinities were there? 1541 01:27:17,449 --> 01:27:18,798 Probably too. 1542 01:27:18,842 --> 01:27:21,497 So I think that part of what enables him 1543 01:27:21,540 --> 01:27:25,196 to portray Twain so convincingly, 1544 01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:29,026 is that he's portraying himself. 1545 01:27:29,069 --> 01:27:30,810 - I mean he was rough, you know. 1546 01:27:30,854 --> 01:27:33,117 He said some pretty rough things, 1547 01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:37,034 but they were true things, they were true things. 1548 01:27:37,077 --> 01:27:38,905 He spoke to truth. 1549 01:27:38,949 --> 01:27:43,519 He nailed the way we lie to ourselves, 1550 01:27:44,607 --> 01:27:47,914 about who we are, how we behave, 1551 01:27:47,958 --> 01:27:50,569 and that we're all good people. 1552 01:27:52,092 --> 01:27:55,966 Well, we could be better, let's put it that way. 1553 01:27:56,009 --> 01:27:57,533 We could be a lot better. 1554 01:28:01,363 --> 01:28:04,453 And if we had a lot of characterwe would try to be better. 1555 01:28:09,284 --> 01:28:12,678 [soft orchestral music] 1556 01:28:13,549 --> 01:28:16,769 [audience applauding] 1557 01:28:37,224 --> 01:28:40,837 [gentle orchestral music] 1558 01:30:15,453 --> 01:30:18,325 [soft piano music] 1559 01:30:18,349 --> 01:30:20,349 >>>>oakislandtk<<<<< www.opensubtitles.org 116228

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