All language subtitles for Roe.V..Wade.[mixtime.net]

af Afrikaans
sq Albanian
am Amharic
ar Arabic
hy Armenian
az Azerbaijani
eu Basque
be Belarusian
bn Bengali
bs Bosnian
bg Bulgarian
ca Catalan
ceb Cebuano
ny Chichewa
zh-CN Chinese (Simplified)
zh-TW Chinese (Traditional)
co Corsican
hr Croatian
cs Czech
da Danish
nl Dutch
en English
eo Esperanto
et Estonian
tl Filipino
fi Finnish
fr French
fy Frisian
gl Galician
ka Georgian
de German
el Greek
gu Gujarati
ht Haitian Creole
ha Hausa
haw Hawaiian
iw Hebrew
hi Hindi
hmn Hmong
hu Hungarian
is Icelandic
ig Igbo
id Indonesian
ga Irish
it Italian
ja Japanese
jw Javanese
kn Kannada
kk Kazakh
km Khmer
ko Korean
ku Kurdish (Kurmanji)
ky Kyrgyz
lo Lao
la Latin
lv Latvian
lt Lithuanian
lb Luxembourgish
mk Macedonian
mg Malagasy
ms Malay
ml Malayalam
mt Maltese
mi Maori
mr Marathi
mn Mongolian
my Myanmar (Burmese)
ne Nepali
no Norwegian
ps Pashto
fa Persian
pl Polish
pt Portuguese
pa Punjabi
ro Romanian
ru Russian
sm Samoan
gd Scots Gaelic
sr Serbian
st Sesotho
sn Shona
sd Sindhi
si Sinhala
sk Slovak
sl Slovenian
so Somali
es Spanish
su Sundanese
sw Swahili
sv Swedish
tg Tajik
ta Tamil
te Telugu
th Thai
tr Turkish
uk Ukrainian
ur Urdu
uz Uzbek
vi Vietnamese
cy Welsh
xh Xhosa
yi Yiddish
yo Yoruba
zu Zulu
or Odia (Oriya)
rw Kinyarwanda
tk Turkmen
tt Tatar
ug Uyghur
Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,063 --> 00:00:01,547 mixtime.net 2 00:00:04,004 --> 00:00:06,675 Doctor. Phil McCombs, Washington Post. 3 00:00:06,708 --> 00:00:07,709 Thank you. Good to see you. 4 00:00:07,742 --> 00:00:09,444 Thank you for taking the time. 5 00:00:18,687 --> 00:00:22,590 So, when you take them out, you don't see anything? 6 00:00:24,892 --> 00:00:26,160 No, you don't see anything. 7 00:00:28,396 --> 00:00:32,032 I-I-I mean, of all the thousands of second trimester abortions 8 00:00:32,066 --> 00:00:35,169 that I've done, I mean, maybe I've seen half a dozen. 9 00:00:37,339 --> 00:00:38,773 But didn't it bother you when you did? 10 00:00:40,408 --> 00:00:41,676 No, not particularly. 11 00:00:41,710 --> 00:00:42,744 It was the end product; 12 00:00:42,777 --> 00:00:44,746 a lifeless, limp thing lying there. 13 00:00:44,779 --> 00:00:46,514 They have a human form. 14 00:00:47,915 --> 00:00:48,916 Oh, absolutely. 15 00:00:52,420 --> 00:00:56,056 I-I-I'm sorry. I-I'm a little bit confused. 16 00:00:56,090 --> 00:00:58,859 Uh. 17 00:00:58,892 --> 00:01:02,664 First you said, "All you see is bloody meat." 18 00:01:02,697 --> 00:01:03,531 Hm-mm. 19 00:01:05,232 --> 00:01:08,202 But now you're saying you always knew it was a person. 20 00:01:09,404 --> 00:01:10,372 So Doctor, 21 00:01:12,607 --> 00:01:13,742 which one is it? 22 00:01:19,246 --> 00:01:20,914 I didn't know what to say. 23 00:01:20,948 --> 00:01:23,016 I felt I was caught in a lie. 24 00:01:23,050 --> 00:01:25,687 So, you have to understand, it was the '70s. 25 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,056 The women's liberation movement was exploding. 26 00:01:29,089 --> 00:01:32,126 Millions of women were taking to the streets, 27 00:01:32,159 --> 00:01:33,628 and I got swept up in the way. 28 00:01:33,661 --> 00:01:35,262 saying now that anything after eight weeks 29 00:01:35,295 --> 00:01:37,131 is murder, which I'm all for. 30 00:01:37,164 --> 00:01:39,099 I'm protesting the protesters. 31 00:01:53,515 --> 00:01:56,818 Proverbs 14:12. 32 00:01:56,851 --> 00:02:00,422 "There is a way that seems right unto man, 33 00:02:00,455 --> 00:02:04,626 but in the end thereof, the way is death." 34 00:02:06,795 --> 00:02:08,430 Well, sir, I was in the parking lot 35 00:02:08,463 --> 00:02:09,831 and I saw some people's signs and I said, 36 00:02:09,864 --> 00:02:11,265 "What's happening today?" And they said, 37 00:02:11,298 --> 00:02:14,101 "They're protesting the governor's decision." 38 00:02:14,134 --> 00:02:16,136 I don't want a bunch of old white dudes 39 00:02:16,170 --> 00:02:17,505 regulating my body. 40 00:02:19,206 --> 00:02:20,442 I want us to stand up 41 00:02:20,475 --> 00:02:22,075 for the innocent lives of children 42 00:02:22,109 --> 00:02:24,077 that are being aborted in the womb, 43 00:02:24,111 --> 00:02:27,114 and to stop the bloodshed. 44 00:02:32,052 --> 00:02:34,789 I mean, in proportion, 12-year-olds can get abortions 45 00:02:34,823 --> 00:02:36,791 in public schools and without parental consent. 46 00:02:36,825 --> 00:02:37,859 That's happened in the States. 47 00:02:37,892 --> 00:02:39,594 In Virginia, if you have a baby, 48 00:02:39,627 --> 00:02:41,094 they put it on a table and they ask the parents 49 00:02:41,128 --> 00:02:42,363 do you want it to live a lie. 50 00:03:01,716 --> 00:03:03,283 My life. 51 00:03:03,318 --> 00:03:04,853 my decision! 52 00:03:04,886 --> 00:03:06,621 My life. 53 00:03:06,654 --> 00:03:09,524 my decision! 54 00:03:24,739 --> 00:03:28,977 You have to sacrifice your pawn to save your queen. 55 00:03:29,009 --> 00:03:30,578 It all started in my 20s. 56 00:03:30,612 --> 00:03:32,212 That's Ruth, my first love. 57 00:03:32,246 --> 00:03:33,815 See, my family was Jewish 58 00:03:33,848 --> 00:03:36,049 so I tried to get them to warm up to her. 59 00:03:36,083 --> 00:03:38,252 But I had a better chance of beating my dad at chess. 60 00:03:38,285 --> 00:03:40,087 Check. 61 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:41,789 Pawns are the soul of a game. 62 00:04:00,308 --> 00:04:03,344 You don't need the queen to win the game. 63 00:04:06,213 --> 00:04:07,214 Checkmate. 64 00:04:08,716 --> 00:04:11,285 You have to sacrifice for the greater good. 65 00:04:19,761 --> 00:04:21,629 How could I have been so stupid. 66 00:04:23,263 --> 00:04:25,198 Maybe we can get married. 67 00:04:25,232 --> 00:04:30,805 No. Not like this. Not yet. 68 00:04:30,838 --> 00:04:32,640 You do know I love you, right? 69 00:04:32,674 --> 00:04:34,842 I can't take care of a baby right now. 70 00:04:39,179 --> 00:04:41,649 Oh, that's what you want. 71 00:04:41,683 --> 00:04:43,150 I can't tell my family about this. 72 00:04:43,183 --> 00:04:44,519 My father won't help. 73 00:04:46,253 --> 00:04:50,123 What am I going to do, Bernie? 74 00:04:50,157 --> 00:04:52,694 Honey, it's we, and we're in this together, okay? 75 00:04:54,495 --> 00:04:56,196 Okay. 76 00:05:12,647 --> 00:05:13,915 I would have married her, 77 00:05:13,948 --> 00:05:15,817 but she didn't want that. 78 00:05:15,850 --> 00:05:18,620 So, I gave her $500. That way, nobody had to know. 79 00:05:20,220 --> 00:05:21,956 I never thought I would lose Ruth. 80 00:05:26,060 --> 00:05:27,695 I became a doctor 81 00:05:27,729 --> 00:05:30,832 to make sure no girl ever had to go through that again. 82 00:05:30,865 --> 00:05:34,602 I will give no deadly medicine, nor suggest any such counsel; 83 00:05:34,636 --> 00:05:38,306 nor give to a woman a pessary to procure an abortion. 84 00:05:38,339 --> 00:05:39,807 Like most doctors, 85 00:05:39,841 --> 00:05:42,142 I would violate the Hippocratic oath. 86 00:05:42,175 --> 00:05:45,212 But saving women was all that mattered. 87 00:05:45,245 --> 00:05:47,715 I know everyone has their own version of events. 88 00:05:47,749 --> 00:05:49,017 But if you really want to know 89 00:05:49,050 --> 00:05:51,284 how abortion became legal in our country, 90 00:05:51,319 --> 00:05:53,186 I will tell you the true story 91 00:05:53,220 --> 00:05:54,322 of Roe v. Wade. 92 00:06:00,528 --> 00:06:03,531 I wanted to get abortion legalized across the country. 93 00:06:03,564 --> 00:06:05,165 Our master plan to do that 94 00:06:05,198 --> 00:06:08,168 started right here in New York City. 95 00:06:08,201 --> 00:06:09,570 That's Betty Friedan, 96 00:06:09,604 --> 00:06:11,305 the leader of the women's movement. 97 00:06:11,339 --> 00:06:14,442 You see, we needed her gals if we had any chance of winning. 98 00:06:16,377 --> 00:06:19,147 Ah-ha. Not again. Mrs. Friedan. 99 00:06:19,179 --> 00:06:22,016 The Plaza's Oak Room has a 61-year tradition 100 00:06:22,050 --> 00:06:25,019 of men's only lunches. 101 00:06:35,096 --> 00:06:36,898 Well, well, well. 102 00:06:36,931 --> 00:06:39,767 If it isn't the world-famous author of The Feminine Mystique, 103 00:06:39,801 --> 00:06:41,769 Mrs. Betty Friedan. 104 00:06:41,803 --> 00:06:43,504 Mr. Larry Lader. 105 00:06:43,538 --> 00:06:45,205 Larry was my best friend. 106 00:06:45,238 --> 00:06:48,176 He was the father of the abortion movement. 107 00:06:48,208 --> 00:06:50,344 And he was also mentored by Margaret Sanger, 108 00:06:50,378 --> 00:06:52,413 the founder of Planned Parenthood. 109 00:06:52,447 --> 00:06:53,948 Now, here's the ugly truth. 110 00:06:53,981 --> 00:06:56,617 Margaret opened clinics in poor Black neighborhoods 111 00:06:56,651 --> 00:06:59,587 and called it the Negro Project. 112 00:06:59,620 --> 00:07:04,125 The mass of Negroes, particularly in the South, 113 00:07:04,158 --> 00:07:08,429 still breed carelessly and disastrously. 114 00:07:10,297 --> 00:07:14,068 The result that the increase among Negroes, 115 00:07:14,102 --> 00:07:16,637 more than among whites, 116 00:07:16,671 --> 00:07:19,272 is that portion of the population 117 00:07:19,307 --> 00:07:22,577 least intelligent and fit. 118 00:07:22,610 --> 00:07:23,911 Her goal was to reduce 119 00:07:23,945 --> 00:07:25,613 the Black population, 120 00:07:25,646 --> 00:07:28,116 either through birth control or sterilization. 121 00:07:28,149 --> 00:07:30,283 She literally wanted to stop Black people 122 00:07:30,318 --> 00:07:32,587 from having babies altogether. 123 00:07:32,620 --> 00:07:35,656 And Larry continued her work by launching an organization 124 00:07:35,690 --> 00:07:37,458 to legalize abortion, 125 00:07:37,492 --> 00:07:40,228 and wrote the first nationwide book on the topic. 126 00:07:40,260 --> 00:07:41,596 Have you happened to read my book? 127 00:07:41,629 --> 00:07:42,764 Did you prance over here 128 00:07:42,797 --> 00:07:46,067 to have me fawn over your vanity project? 129 00:07:46,100 --> 00:07:48,770 Cyril here works for the ACLU. 130 00:07:48,803 --> 00:07:50,738 We can have him sue the Plaza if you like. 131 00:07:50,772 --> 00:07:52,106 A girl should not expect special privileges 132 00:07:52,140 --> 00:07:53,841 because of her sex, 133 00:07:53,875 --> 00:07:56,010 but neither should she adjust to prejudice or discrimination. 134 00:07:56,043 --> 00:07:57,979 I-I'm Bernard. 135 00:07:59,213 --> 00:08:00,314 An obstetrician officially, 136 00:08:00,348 --> 00:08:03,151 until they get the laws repealed. 137 00:08:03,184 --> 00:08:06,120 Cyril is also the lead counsel 138 00:08:06,154 --> 00:08:08,489 for Planned Parenthood. 139 00:08:08,523 --> 00:08:11,993 So, why are you boys so worked up about abortion? 140 00:08:12,026 --> 00:08:14,796 Well, Cyril is gonna head legal, 141 00:08:14,829 --> 00:08:16,130 Bernie, medical. 142 00:08:16,164 --> 00:08:17,932 I would like him to open up a clinic. 143 00:08:17,965 --> 00:08:19,634 Larry, listen, I've told you a million times. 144 00:08:19,667 --> 00:08:21,669 I'm not gonna ruin my reputation over this. 145 00:08:21,702 --> 00:08:24,172 The women need your help. 146 00:08:24,205 --> 00:08:25,606 Opening a clinic will land him in hot water 147 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,008 like Vuitch. 148 00:08:27,041 --> 00:08:28,776 Exactly. And I'm much better to you out of jail. 149 00:08:28,810 --> 00:08:30,144 A bunch of disorganized men 150 00:08:30,178 --> 00:08:32,380 are gonna rid this country of abortion restriction? 151 00:08:32,413 --> 00:08:33,948 No, no, no. We're not disorganized, okay. 152 00:08:33,981 --> 00:08:35,216 - If Bernie... - We're looking for 153 00:08:35,249 --> 00:08:36,818 a pregnant girl to challenge the abortion laws. 154 00:08:36,851 --> 00:08:39,453 If New York falls, the country falls. 155 00:08:39,487 --> 00:08:41,389 If that doesn't work, we'll lobby the legislature. 156 00:08:41,422 --> 00:08:43,024 I guess I can provide medical research 157 00:08:43,057 --> 00:08:44,525 to prove our opinion. 158 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,460 We wanna rally behind the women's movement 159 00:08:46,494 --> 00:08:48,663 to get the TV media on board. 160 00:08:48,696 --> 00:08:50,531 So that's why you need me. 161 00:08:50,565 --> 00:08:52,800 We need to continue Margaret Sanger's work. 162 00:08:52,834 --> 00:08:54,235 Oh, well. 163 00:08:54,268 --> 00:08:56,504 Thank you so much for this explanation. 164 00:08:56,537 --> 00:08:58,739 But abortion is really not our focus. 165 00:09:00,775 --> 00:09:02,043 You're gonna regret it 166 00:09:02,076 --> 00:09:04,011 when you see Gloria Steinem and Bella Abzug 167 00:09:04,045 --> 00:09:07,048 hopping on board and everybody else. 168 00:09:07,081 --> 00:09:08,317 You're our first choice. 169 00:09:08,349 --> 00:09:09,417 Yeah? Why? 170 00:09:09,450 --> 00:09:10,785 Because you're the best. 171 00:09:14,622 --> 00:09:15,690 Betty came on board 172 00:09:15,723 --> 00:09:17,658 and brought her core of feminists. 173 00:09:17,692 --> 00:09:19,694 We all launched NARAL together, 174 00:09:19,727 --> 00:09:22,029 the National Association to Repeal Abortion Laws. 175 00:09:26,601 --> 00:09:28,002 Did I tell you? 176 00:09:28,035 --> 00:09:29,036 Did I tell you? 177 00:09:32,540 --> 00:09:35,276 Looks like I started a revolution. 178 00:09:35,310 --> 00:09:38,512 I mean... I told you, you should open a clinic. 179 00:09:38,546 --> 00:09:40,882 Well, you know, you're probably right about the clinic. 180 00:09:40,915 --> 00:09:44,353 But listen, I-I gotta look after Adele and Joey, so. 181 00:09:46,487 --> 00:09:47,889 Are you not seeing this? 182 00:09:49,223 --> 00:09:50,625 Yeah, but do you really think 183 00:09:50,658 --> 00:09:52,693 we should go for full repeal? 184 00:09:52,727 --> 00:09:56,230 I say we go for abortion on demand! 185 00:09:58,766 --> 00:09:59,667 Yeah. 186 00:10:03,471 --> 00:10:05,439 Listen, come on. We don't need to get greedy. 187 00:10:05,473 --> 00:10:09,877 Can't we just do this for health or if a woman gets raped? 188 00:10:09,911 --> 00:10:11,212 You know, wouldn't it just be better for that? 189 00:10:11,245 --> 00:10:14,115 We don't need to go for abortion on demand. 190 00:10:14,148 --> 00:10:15,249 No, no, no. 191 00:10:15,283 --> 00:10:17,785 We have to go for the full enchilada. 192 00:10:17,818 --> 00:10:19,553 Otherwise, we'll get nothing. 193 00:10:19,587 --> 00:10:20,855 Cyril's correct. 194 00:10:22,523 --> 00:10:25,459 We can't turn a woman's body into a business negotiation. 195 00:10:31,532 --> 00:10:34,101 You just won a fabulous trip to London. 196 00:10:34,135 --> 00:10:38,439 It's worth over $1,000. Congratulations, sir. 197 00:10:41,609 --> 00:10:43,511 Your dinner's in the oven, if you wanna heat it up. 198 00:10:45,146 --> 00:10:46,247 Thank you, sweetheart. 199 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,350 Like always! 200 00:10:48,383 --> 00:10:50,785 Oh, come on, not again. 201 00:10:50,818 --> 00:10:52,186 Eighteen-hour days? 202 00:10:53,854 --> 00:10:55,489 What's her name? 203 00:10:55,523 --> 00:10:58,092 Betty Friedan. 204 00:10:58,125 --> 00:10:59,827 Come on, you can't take a joke? 205 00:10:59,860 --> 00:11:02,630 What you do isn't funny. 206 00:11:02,663 --> 00:11:05,599 I don't understand. A woman doesn't support women's rights? 207 00:11:05,633 --> 00:11:07,336 I mean, you should see what they go through. 208 00:11:07,369 --> 00:11:08,803 Then go be with them. 209 00:11:08,836 --> 00:11:10,871 Women are dying. I'm saving lives. 210 00:11:20,214 --> 00:11:23,017 I just miss you, that's all. 211 00:11:29,023 --> 00:11:31,692 Okay, you win. 212 00:11:31,726 --> 00:11:33,894 The New York State Senate today passed one of the nation's 213 00:11:33,928 --> 00:11:36,398 most sweeping abortion control bills. 214 00:11:36,431 --> 00:11:38,199 Aggregates and enemies of the bill 215 00:11:38,232 --> 00:11:40,534 brought tremendous pressures to bear on legislators 216 00:11:40,568 --> 00:11:42,337 on the emotional issue, 217 00:11:42,371 --> 00:11:44,406 and the drama was summed up late yesterday 218 00:11:44,439 --> 00:11:45,673 in the State Assembly 219 00:11:45,706 --> 00:11:47,808 when one man's vote made the difference. 220 00:11:47,842 --> 00:11:49,977 As New York's Assembly passed a bill 221 00:11:50,011 --> 00:11:52,481 legalizing abortions for any reason, 222 00:11:52,513 --> 00:11:55,750 up to the 24th week of a pregnancy, 223 00:11:55,783 --> 00:11:59,520 the decision to be made between a woman and her physician. 224 00:11:59,553 --> 00:12:02,056 But then it became apparent that the bill would fail 225 00:12:02,089 --> 00:12:04,493 unless one vote was changed. 226 00:12:04,525 --> 00:12:06,761 But I cannot, in good conscience, 227 00:12:06,794 --> 00:12:15,002 stand here and thwart the obvious majority of this House. 228 00:12:15,036 --> 00:12:18,072 I therefore request you, Mr. Speaker, 229 00:12:18,105 --> 00:12:20,875 to change my negative vote to an affirmative vote. 230 00:12:20,908 --> 00:12:22,511 Completely devastated, 231 00:12:22,543 --> 00:12:24,612 the pro-life senator, Earl Brydges, 232 00:12:24,645 --> 00:12:26,448 read the Diary of the Unborn. 233 00:12:26,481 --> 00:12:27,782 "My parents don't know it yet, 234 00:12:27,815 --> 00:12:33,321 "I'm as small as the seed of an apple. 235 00:12:35,623 --> 00:12:37,325 "But it's me already. 236 00:12:39,428 --> 00:12:40,828 "I'm to be a girl. 237 00:12:42,563 --> 00:12:44,799 "I shall have blonde hair and blue eyes. 238 00:12:49,136 --> 00:12:50,738 "October 19th. 239 00:12:53,674 --> 00:12:57,144 "Some say I'm not a real person yet, 240 00:12:57,178 --> 00:12:59,448 "that only my mother exists. 241 00:13:01,349 --> 00:13:04,085 "But I am a real person. 242 00:13:11,359 --> 00:13:12,693 "December 13th. 243 00:13:16,597 --> 00:13:20,167 "I'm just about able to see. 244 00:13:20,201 --> 00:13:22,870 "It's-it's dark around me. 245 00:13:26,841 --> 00:13:28,543 "But what I want more than anything. 246 00:13:32,514 --> 00:13:35,149 "is to see my mommy. 247 00:13:40,821 --> 00:13:42,022 "December 24th. 248 00:13:47,228 --> 00:13:50,698 "I wonder if mommy. 249 00:13:53,834 --> 00:13:57,238 "hears the whispering of my heart. 250 00:14:00,241 --> 00:14:04,044 "It beats so evenly. 251 00:14:11,852 --> 00:14:16,558 "October 28th... December 28th. 252 00:14:25,866 --> 00:14:27,234 Today my mommy killed me." 253 00:14:36,411 --> 00:14:38,812 The win shocked our opposition. 254 00:14:38,846 --> 00:14:40,080 I mean, no one thought we would get abortion 255 00:14:40,114 --> 00:14:42,716 legalized in New York. 256 00:14:42,750 --> 00:14:45,620 Especially since the Catholics controlled everything there. 257 00:14:49,357 --> 00:14:51,426 How does Rockefeller appoint Cyril Means 258 00:14:51,459 --> 00:14:52,893 to head this committee? 259 00:14:52,927 --> 00:14:54,329 It's a conflict of interest. 260 00:14:54,362 --> 00:14:56,431 He works for Planned Parenthood. 261 00:14:56,464 --> 00:14:58,667 Politicians are now playing God, 262 00:14:58,699 --> 00:15:02,537 deciding on who has the right to live and to die. 263 00:15:02,571 --> 00:15:06,240 This is Dr. Mildred Jefferson, she is the first, 264 00:15:06,273 --> 00:15:09,076 uh, woman to graduate... 265 00:15:09,109 --> 00:15:11,078 What he's trying to say is 266 00:15:11,111 --> 00:15:15,015 I am the first Negro woman to graduate Harvard Medical. 267 00:15:15,049 --> 00:15:17,718 Ellen, I run a pro-life women's group. 268 00:15:17,751 --> 00:15:19,554 We, ah, tried to fight this in Albany. 269 00:15:20,821 --> 00:15:22,457 Feminism is destructive. 270 00:15:22,490 --> 00:15:24,058 I have no philosophical 271 00:15:24,091 --> 00:15:27,429 or intellectual appreciation for it. 272 00:15:27,462 --> 00:15:28,630 Oh, we're not feminists. 273 00:15:28,663 --> 00:15:30,699 And they used to be against abortion. 274 00:15:30,731 --> 00:15:32,601 It's not about women's rights either. 275 00:15:32,634 --> 00:15:33,968 Would you like to head up 276 00:15:34,001 --> 00:15:36,804 a right to life group that I'm starting? 277 00:15:36,837 --> 00:15:39,139 I could write a few letters. 278 00:15:39,173 --> 00:15:40,508 There's more that needs to be done. 279 00:15:42,009 --> 00:15:43,445 I could attend some rallies. 280 00:15:43,478 --> 00:15:46,715 Really? That's it? 281 00:15:46,747 --> 00:15:49,551 This will be the National Right to Life Committee. 282 00:15:49,584 --> 00:15:52,253 Father, I am still completing my residency 283 00:15:52,286 --> 00:15:54,154 at Boston University. 284 00:15:54,188 --> 00:15:57,091 I will not give them any more excuses. 285 00:15:57,124 --> 00:15:59,260 I never heard Rosa Parks give excuses. 286 00:16:45,873 --> 00:16:48,510 I'm sorry about Ellen, all right. 287 00:16:48,543 --> 00:16:49,977 She's from Long Island. 288 00:16:50,010 --> 00:16:51,945 I will not be used for the color of my skin. 289 00:16:51,979 --> 00:16:54,482 I do what I do on principle, like Don Quixote. 290 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,489 Look, first they came after the Jews, 291 00:17:01,523 --> 00:17:05,327 but we weren't Jewish, so we didn't say anything. 292 00:17:05,360 --> 00:17:08,496 And then they came after the mentally deficient. 293 00:17:08,530 --> 00:17:12,966 But we weren't deficient so we did nothing. 294 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,602 And now they're comin' after the unborn. 295 00:17:18,005 --> 00:17:20,608 and so you're gonna do nothing? 296 00:17:24,546 --> 00:17:27,214 That's a low blow. 297 00:17:27,247 --> 00:17:29,116 No one is coming for the unborn. 298 00:17:31,852 --> 00:17:35,724 This is akin to slavery, and you know the topic. 299 00:17:37,726 --> 00:17:39,093 Because I'm Black? 300 00:17:41,261 --> 00:17:42,530 Yes. 301 00:17:46,133 --> 00:17:48,035 This can't come to you as a shock. 302 00:17:48,068 --> 00:17:49,337 Dr. Haven, 303 00:17:49,371 --> 00:17:50,839 perhaps the board could consider... 304 00:17:50,871 --> 00:17:52,607 The decision has been made. 305 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,510 I've been in medicine for 20 years. 306 00:17:55,543 --> 00:17:59,046 Dr. McConnell will be our new chief resident, 307 00:17:59,079 --> 00:18:00,448 and that's final. 308 00:18:00,482 --> 00:18:03,852 You've chosen Dr. McConnell. 309 00:18:03,884 --> 00:18:06,220 The man can barely get through an appendectomy. 310 00:18:06,253 --> 00:18:08,088 He's a fine doctor. 311 00:18:08,122 --> 00:18:10,792 This position is way too precious 312 00:18:10,825 --> 00:18:13,595 to be wasted on a woman. 313 00:18:18,132 --> 00:18:19,900 I'll get it. 314 00:18:24,004 --> 00:18:26,073 Professor Robert Byrn. 315 00:18:26,106 --> 00:18:28,410 Father McHugh said you were gonna call. 316 00:18:30,110 --> 00:18:31,145 There is not much time, 317 00:18:31,178 --> 00:18:33,882 and Jim said you wanted to help out. 318 00:18:33,914 --> 00:18:35,717 Well, supposedly 319 00:18:35,750 --> 00:18:38,285 you're the best constitutional mind he knows. 320 00:18:38,319 --> 00:18:39,587 The only one he knows. 321 00:18:41,823 --> 00:18:44,759 "Any society that's willing to give up a little liberty 322 00:18:44,793 --> 00:18:46,994 to gain a little security 323 00:18:47,027 --> 00:18:49,464 will deserve neither and lose both." 324 00:18:49,497 --> 00:18:51,499 Benjamin Franklin. 325 00:18:51,533 --> 00:18:55,102 Susan B. Anthony said about abortion, 326 00:18:55,135 --> 00:18:58,105 "Awful guilty is the woman who commits the deed." 327 00:18:58,138 --> 00:19:00,508 No one will be passing a law to kill the unborn. 328 00:19:00,542 --> 00:19:03,277 Our foundations are built on natural law. 329 00:19:03,311 --> 00:19:04,479 Are you sure about that? 330 00:19:05,946 --> 00:19:08,349 People can't humanize what they can't see. 331 00:19:08,383 --> 00:19:10,685 Physicians need to balance the discussion. 332 00:19:12,654 --> 00:19:15,423 But in order to win, 333 00:19:15,457 --> 00:19:17,659 we need to take God out of the argument. 334 00:19:17,692 --> 00:19:19,427 Nathanson's clinics are performing 335 00:19:19,461 --> 00:19:21,463 a thousand abortions per week. 336 00:19:21,496 --> 00:19:22,797 Nathanson? 337 00:19:22,831 --> 00:19:25,165 Dr. Bernard Nathanson, the obstetrician. 338 00:19:25,199 --> 00:19:27,134 The self-proclaimed savior of women. 339 00:19:27,167 --> 00:19:29,269 Sounds more like an abortionist than a doctor. 340 00:19:29,304 --> 00:19:31,339 The Abortion King, they call him. 341 00:19:31,372 --> 00:19:34,442 That's why I'm sacrificing my time and taking up the fight. 342 00:19:34,476 --> 00:19:39,146 I'm a woman. You have choices. 343 00:19:39,179 --> 00:19:41,114 I understand. 344 00:19:41,148 --> 00:19:43,016 You need to take care of your children. 345 00:19:43,050 --> 00:19:46,153 No, we don't have any children. 346 00:19:51,058 --> 00:19:53,026 We tried. 347 00:20:03,237 --> 00:20:04,405 So glad you're here. 348 00:20:04,439 --> 00:20:06,841 Look at this. Have you seen that? 349 00:20:08,443 --> 00:20:11,679 "An unmarried Catholic law professor." 350 00:20:11,713 --> 00:20:12,747 Now, Larry's strategy 351 00:20:12,780 --> 00:20:15,249 was to always vilify the Catholics. 352 00:20:15,282 --> 00:20:17,184 So, every time we leaked a story, 353 00:20:17,217 --> 00:20:20,153 we made sure the writer identified the bad guys 354 00:20:20,187 --> 00:20:22,390 specifically as Catholics. 355 00:20:22,423 --> 00:20:24,091 I'm always described that way. 356 00:20:24,124 --> 00:20:26,494 You never see them identify Betty Friedan "a married Jew," 357 00:20:26,528 --> 00:20:28,363 but us, always "a Catholic." 358 00:20:29,898 --> 00:20:31,231 Could be worse. 359 00:20:33,066 --> 00:20:34,268 Come on. 360 00:20:34,302 --> 00:20:36,236 We're gonna go in here and over to the left. 361 00:20:56,123 --> 00:20:57,257 Where are the graves? 362 00:20:59,928 --> 00:21:01,829 Where are the names carved in stone? 363 00:21:04,599 --> 00:21:06,935 Where do we go to pray? 364 00:21:06,968 --> 00:21:08,135 I don't know, Father. 365 00:21:08,168 --> 00:21:09,804 But I do know that they will never stop 366 00:21:09,837 --> 00:21:12,307 the religious persecution. 367 00:21:12,340 --> 00:21:14,742 Preaching on Sundays isn't saving babies. 368 00:21:17,512 --> 00:21:19,714 "The fate of unborn millions will now depend, 369 00:21:19,747 --> 00:21:22,050 under God, on the courage of this army." 370 00:21:22,082 --> 00:21:23,318 George Washington. 371 00:21:24,786 --> 00:21:26,921 We need to take God out of the argument. 372 00:21:26,955 --> 00:21:28,990 Your father was a minister. 373 00:21:29,023 --> 00:21:30,157 Yes. 374 00:21:33,828 --> 00:21:35,763 Life begins at conception. 375 00:21:36,998 --> 00:21:39,367 As a physician, I know this. 376 00:21:40,868 --> 00:21:42,269 And so does the Scraper. 377 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,009 The Scraper? 378 00:21:48,042 --> 00:21:49,777 That's what they call Dr. Nathanson. 379 00:21:56,818 --> 00:21:57,852 I'm in. 380 00:22:04,659 --> 00:22:07,160 I'll have someone from the Right to Life office 381 00:22:07,194 --> 00:22:09,296 get it up and running until you can take over. 382 00:22:10,498 --> 00:22:11,666 God bless you. 383 00:22:17,005 --> 00:22:18,673 You know, it's cheaper to abort a baby 384 00:22:18,706 --> 00:22:20,675 than it is to keep it on welfare. 385 00:22:23,143 --> 00:22:24,846 Now that it's in the courts, 386 00:22:24,879 --> 00:22:27,382 the interests of the baby will be taken into consideration. 387 00:22:29,484 --> 00:22:31,686 And now that it is legal in New York, 388 00:22:31,719 --> 00:22:34,389 Larry really wants me to open up a clinic. 389 00:22:34,422 --> 00:22:36,256 Does he want to pay our mortgage? 390 00:22:48,036 --> 00:22:49,236 Larry was right, 391 00:22:49,269 --> 00:22:51,005 and from this point forward, 392 00:22:51,039 --> 00:22:54,342 we were able to carry out over 70,000 abortions 393 00:22:54,375 --> 00:22:58,846 throughout my career, making over $20 million. 394 00:23:01,683 --> 00:23:04,686 Maybe this is worth your reputation. 395 00:23:08,288 --> 00:23:09,891 I guess they could use your help. 396 00:23:13,928 --> 00:23:16,064 If you're gonna do this, 397 00:23:16,097 --> 00:23:18,032 I need you to do one thing for me. 398 00:23:18,066 --> 00:23:18,966 Tell me. 399 00:23:20,068 --> 00:23:21,302 Win! 400 00:23:25,073 --> 00:23:26,441 Now that my business was booming, 401 00:23:26,474 --> 00:23:27,875 I didn't have enough hours in the day 402 00:23:27,909 --> 00:23:30,745 to take care of all the girls who wanted abortions. 403 00:23:30,778 --> 00:23:33,246 So, we had to go to London to learn a faster procedure. 404 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,784 Uh, today, I'll be performing 32 procedures. 405 00:23:36,818 --> 00:23:39,053 Thirty-two in one day? Impressive. 406 00:23:39,087 --> 00:23:41,055 Yeah, it's much more civilized now. 407 00:23:41,089 --> 00:23:42,857 What is that machine there used for? 408 00:23:42,890 --> 00:23:44,559 Well, this is a suction machine. 409 00:23:44,592 --> 00:23:48,362 The procedure is called suction curettage. 410 00:23:48,396 --> 00:23:51,899 With this, I can perform an abortion in three minutes. 411 00:23:51,933 --> 00:23:53,601 That's impossible. You can't do that. 412 00:23:53,634 --> 00:23:56,437 You can thank the Chinese for this. 413 00:23:56,471 --> 00:23:57,872 This and firecrackers. 414 00:23:57,905 --> 00:24:00,975 Up until how many months can you use this machine? 415 00:24:01,008 --> 00:24:02,076 Four and a half, 416 00:24:02,110 --> 00:24:03,644 no problem. 417 00:24:03,678 --> 00:24:06,614 Dilation and evacuation up to six and a half, 418 00:24:06,647 --> 00:24:08,583 but some doctors even more than that. 419 00:24:12,019 --> 00:24:13,087 Now, if you're looking for a nice shirt 420 00:24:13,121 --> 00:24:14,155 while you're in London, 421 00:24:14,188 --> 00:24:16,224 I can recommend MacCulloch & Wallis. 422 00:24:16,256 --> 00:24:20,394 They get the cut just right. It is your body after all. 423 00:24:21,596 --> 00:24:22,764 One thing to be careful of though is, 424 00:24:22,797 --> 00:24:26,000 their guy is a little clumsy with the needle, 425 00:24:26,033 --> 00:24:28,803 but who cares if it stings a bit, hmm? 426 00:24:28,836 --> 00:24:30,772 Ah, suction machine, please? 427 00:24:30,805 --> 00:24:32,006 You got it. 428 00:24:32,039 --> 00:24:34,274 The fetus is quartered. 429 00:24:34,308 --> 00:24:36,811 The torso disemboweled. 430 00:24:36,844 --> 00:24:40,948 The head is then crushed and extracted in parts. 431 00:24:40,982 --> 00:24:44,585 Then the placenta is scraped off the womb. 432 00:24:44,619 --> 00:24:47,688 The last step of dilation and evacuation is, 433 00:24:47,722 --> 00:24:49,624 you must reconstruct the fetus 434 00:24:49,657 --> 00:24:52,927 to make sure all the vital parts have been removed. 435 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:53,795 Thank you. 436 00:24:56,664 --> 00:24:59,433 Look, if you follow the New York model, 437 00:24:59,467 --> 00:25:01,702 you're gonna be able to maximize patients. Okay? 438 00:25:01,736 --> 00:25:02,770 If you need any help... 439 00:25:02,804 --> 00:25:04,772 We have regional centers. 440 00:25:04,806 --> 00:25:07,441 Planned Parenthood has centers all over the country. 441 00:25:07,475 --> 00:25:08,509 Yeah. 442 00:25:08,543 --> 00:25:10,511 Thank you, gentlemen. 443 00:25:17,852 --> 00:25:19,487 We found a girl in Texas. 444 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,190 Our gal at Planned Parenthood Dallas, Ginny Whitehill, 445 00:25:22,223 --> 00:25:23,558 organized the whole thing. 446 00:25:23,591 --> 00:25:25,126 Did you get a lawyer in Texas, too? 447 00:25:25,159 --> 00:25:27,495 A woman, and this is where it gets good. 448 00:25:27,528 --> 00:25:28,996 Ginny found the perfect one. 449 00:25:29,030 --> 00:25:30,364 No. 450 00:25:30,398 --> 00:25:33,401 Young, inexperienced, and in need of guidance. 451 00:25:33,434 --> 00:25:35,369 And it gets better. 452 00:25:35,403 --> 00:25:37,338 She works for us. 453 00:25:37,371 --> 00:25:38,406 What are you talking about? 454 00:25:38,439 --> 00:25:39,340 For Planned Parenthood. 455 00:25:39,373 --> 00:25:40,975 No. 456 00:25:41,008 --> 00:25:43,878 She even volunteers for your group, NOW. 457 00:25:54,722 --> 00:25:57,892 Henry's a civil rights lawyer but he does adoptions, too. 458 00:25:57,925 --> 00:25:59,927 That's how we found the girl. 459 00:25:59,961 --> 00:26:01,729 Norma McCorvey. She's perfect. 460 00:26:01,762 --> 00:26:02,930 She was a runaway, 461 00:26:02,964 --> 00:26:04,532 she became an alcoholic, 462 00:26:04,565 --> 00:26:06,601 a drug addict, a lesbian. 463 00:26:06,634 --> 00:26:09,203 She has a criminal record and a ninth-grade education. 464 00:26:09,237 --> 00:26:11,906 She is just what you're looking for. 465 00:26:11,939 --> 00:26:13,875 Ginny, this is great. 466 00:26:13,908 --> 00:26:17,278 We need to legalize this across the country in one swoop. 467 00:26:17,312 --> 00:26:20,514 Fighting state by state will take forever. 468 00:26:20,548 --> 00:26:21,782 And the lawyers? 469 00:26:21,816 --> 00:26:23,918 Linda Coffee and Sarah Weddington. 470 00:26:23,951 --> 00:26:25,286 Henry McCluskey was the guy 471 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,121 who not only found the pregnant girl, 472 00:26:27,154 --> 00:26:28,723 but the lawyers, too. 473 00:26:28,756 --> 00:26:30,558 They are super excited. 474 00:26:30,591 --> 00:26:32,426 Plus. 475 00:26:32,460 --> 00:26:34,161 they desperately needed a job. 476 00:26:36,097 --> 00:26:37,298 Planned Parenthood 477 00:26:37,332 --> 00:26:39,567 needed Texas lawyers they could control. 478 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,435 And they wanted women. 479 00:26:41,469 --> 00:26:44,538 Sarah and Linda couldn't get hired anywhere else. 480 00:26:44,572 --> 00:26:46,574 They were the perfect pawns. 481 00:26:46,607 --> 00:26:48,776 You're gonna make a constitutional claim. 482 00:26:48,809 --> 00:26:50,312 How are we gonna do that? 483 00:26:50,345 --> 00:26:52,947 Between Planned Parenthood, NARAL, and NOW, 484 00:26:52,980 --> 00:26:54,248 you got a lot of help. 485 00:26:54,282 --> 00:26:56,050 And Norma's background? 486 00:26:56,083 --> 00:26:58,219 Are we worried that's gonna affect the case? 487 00:26:58,252 --> 00:27:00,655 We'll give her a pseudonym. Call her Jane Roe. 488 00:27:00,688 --> 00:27:02,757 Calling Norma Jane Roe, 489 00:27:02,790 --> 00:27:05,092 made sure our opponents would never be able to 490 00:27:05,126 --> 00:27:08,729 find out who she was; never be able to question her, 491 00:27:08,763 --> 00:27:11,933 and never, ever be able to find out the truth. 492 00:27:11,966 --> 00:27:13,567 That's genius. 493 00:27:13,601 --> 00:27:15,337 That way, no one will ever know about her past. 494 00:27:15,370 --> 00:27:16,904 I'll oversee the case. 495 00:27:16,938 --> 00:27:19,408 I'll bring in Harriet Pilpel from Planned Parenthood. 496 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,143 She's the country's top constitutional expert. 497 00:27:22,176 --> 00:27:23,678 This is going to the Supreme Court? 498 00:27:23,711 --> 00:27:25,046 We'll make sure of it. 499 00:27:26,447 --> 00:27:29,684 But, I-I've never even tried a case. 500 00:27:29,717 --> 00:27:32,387 Don't worry, we have. 501 00:27:35,189 --> 00:27:36,958 Larry liked to go to St. Croix. 502 00:27:36,991 --> 00:27:38,427 He called them working vacations. 503 00:27:38,459 --> 00:27:39,627 Okay, Bernie. 504 00:27:39,660 --> 00:27:40,494 He said that's where 505 00:27:40,528 --> 00:27:41,963 he got his best ideas. 506 00:27:41,996 --> 00:27:43,332 - This time, I went with him. - Look, they do need us. 507 00:27:43,365 --> 00:27:44,665 We were going to celebrate 508 00:27:44,699 --> 00:27:46,133 - winning New York. - Here's the strategy, okay. 509 00:27:46,167 --> 00:27:48,636 First, we have to get the media on our side. 510 00:27:48,669 --> 00:27:50,137 That's a good idea, okay. 511 00:27:50,171 --> 00:27:52,341 Second, they need to know 512 00:27:52,374 --> 00:27:54,175 there's no life at conception. 513 00:27:54,208 --> 00:27:57,144 Yeah, but I'm not really sure that's accurate. 514 00:27:58,347 --> 00:27:59,213 Well, you're a doctor. 515 00:27:59,246 --> 00:28:00,382 We're gonna need testimonials. 516 00:28:00,415 --> 00:28:02,883 What about what the other experts say? 517 00:28:02,917 --> 00:28:05,219 We'll make sure no one's gonna hear what they have to say. 518 00:28:05,252 --> 00:28:07,555 I couldn't believe what he just said. 519 00:28:07,588 --> 00:28:10,157 Larry wanted me to bury the truth. 520 00:28:10,191 --> 00:28:14,161 I was really conflicted but. I went along with it anyway. 521 00:28:14,195 --> 00:28:15,629 Right? Listen. 522 00:28:15,663 --> 00:28:19,200 Most important, every revolution needs a villain, okay? 523 00:28:19,233 --> 00:28:21,403 Whether it's a dictator or a king. 524 00:28:21,436 --> 00:28:24,205 People need to see a face, something to rebel against. 525 00:28:24,238 --> 00:28:26,974 It's easier for them to perceive. 526 00:28:27,008 --> 00:28:30,745 We need to narrow the focus, okay, 527 00:28:30,778 --> 00:28:33,348 identify it with a person 528 00:28:33,382 --> 00:28:36,250 or a small group of shadowy, powerful people. 529 00:28:38,052 --> 00:28:39,053 Don't you see? 530 00:28:40,755 --> 00:28:43,057 In our country there's been one group associated with 531 00:28:43,090 --> 00:28:44,326 reactionary politics, 532 00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:46,260 behind-the-scenes manipulations, 533 00:28:46,293 --> 00:28:47,928 and backward ideas. 534 00:28:47,962 --> 00:28:50,264 Wait, not the Catholics again? 535 00:28:50,297 --> 00:28:52,566 Oh, well. What did I really care? 536 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,835 I mean, although my parents were Jewish, 537 00:28:54,869 --> 00:28:56,737 I was more of an atheist. 538 00:28:56,771 --> 00:28:59,206 Of course, the Catholics. Yes! 539 00:29:02,777 --> 00:29:04,912 Norma. 540 00:29:04,945 --> 00:29:06,714 good to see you again. 541 00:29:06,747 --> 00:29:07,715 Come here. 542 00:29:11,420 --> 00:29:12,286 This is Sarah. 543 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,863 So, you're seeking an abortion? 544 00:29:22,897 --> 00:29:25,566 Yeah, you know where I can get one? 545 00:29:27,436 --> 00:29:30,905 I'm so sorry, I do not. 546 00:29:39,314 --> 00:29:40,714 How about an illegal one? 547 00:29:40,748 --> 00:29:42,216 No! 548 00:29:42,249 --> 00:29:43,284 Okay, well, Sarah did know 549 00:29:43,318 --> 00:29:44,618 where to get an illegal one. 550 00:29:44,652 --> 00:29:46,555 She had one in Mexico. 551 00:29:46,587 --> 00:29:48,789 But we needed them to say whatever it took 552 00:29:48,823 --> 00:29:50,791 to get her to come on board. 553 00:29:50,825 --> 00:29:55,062 It was for the greater good. This was lie number one. 554 00:29:55,096 --> 00:29:56,964 Why the heck not? 555 00:29:56,997 --> 00:29:59,300 Because it's dangerous. 556 00:29:59,334 --> 00:30:00,935 What am I even doing here then? 557 00:30:00,968 --> 00:30:03,070 Mr. McCluskey said I could trust y'all. 558 00:30:03,104 --> 00:30:04,605 He's great. 559 00:30:04,638 --> 00:30:07,342 We'll still consult with McCluskey, okay? 560 00:30:07,375 --> 00:30:09,910 I can't be having no baby, okay? 561 00:30:09,944 --> 00:30:13,415 I got no job, no husband, no home. 562 00:30:13,448 --> 00:30:15,417 You don't wanna to put your child up for adoption? 563 00:30:15,450 --> 00:30:18,052 No, I can't go through that again. 564 00:30:21,021 --> 00:30:22,957 Thank you. 565 00:30:22,990 --> 00:30:25,960 How did you become pregnant in the first place? 566 00:30:25,993 --> 00:30:26,994 Can I? 567 00:30:31,466 --> 00:30:34,969 Norma, if we are gonna represent you, 568 00:30:35,002 --> 00:30:38,172 we need to know everything. 569 00:30:38,205 --> 00:30:40,542 Did anything bad happen? 570 00:30:40,575 --> 00:30:43,978 I was, uhm, raped. 571 00:30:44,011 --> 00:30:46,013 Norma may have been suicidal, 572 00:30:46,046 --> 00:30:49,384 but she admitted years later, she lied about being raped. 573 00:30:50,519 --> 00:30:51,419 Raped? 574 00:30:53,154 --> 00:30:55,156 I'm so sorry. 575 00:30:55,189 --> 00:30:56,525 No woman should ever have to give birth 576 00:30:56,558 --> 00:30:58,360 to her attacker's child. 577 00:30:58,393 --> 00:31:01,195 Hmm, is the case gonna be over in enough time? 578 00:31:01,228 --> 00:31:02,531 That's why I'm doing this. 579 00:31:02,564 --> 00:31:05,299 Yes, of course. 580 00:31:05,333 --> 00:31:06,368 Lie number two. 581 00:31:09,003 --> 00:31:11,339 We will do our best to win. 582 00:31:11,373 --> 00:31:14,742 So, what happens during an abortion? 583 00:31:14,775 --> 00:31:16,810 Does the baby go back? 584 00:31:16,844 --> 00:31:20,348 Like when John Wayne aborts a mission? 585 00:31:20,382 --> 00:31:22,683 Well, there is no baby. 586 00:31:22,716 --> 00:31:24,218 And ladies and gentlemen, 587 00:31:24,251 --> 00:31:26,588 lie number three. 588 00:31:26,621 --> 00:31:29,056 It's like removing a piece of tissue. 589 00:31:29,089 --> 00:31:30,525 The baby comes later, Norma. 590 00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:31,593 Much later. 591 00:31:33,260 --> 00:31:34,529 Like passing a period. 592 00:31:36,030 --> 00:31:39,434 So, y'all got a lot of experience with this. 593 00:31:39,467 --> 00:31:41,202 We're going to file in Dallas. 594 00:31:41,235 --> 00:31:42,537 But I live in Houston. 595 00:31:42,571 --> 00:31:45,340 I know, but I clerked for Judge Hughes in Dallas 596 00:31:45,373 --> 00:31:47,676 and I know her position on the topic. 597 00:31:47,708 --> 00:31:51,346 We just need you to read these papers and sign. 598 00:31:51,379 --> 00:31:53,847 And then, we'll just-we'll get everything going. 599 00:31:53,881 --> 00:31:55,383 It's all right. I trust y'all. 600 00:32:09,497 --> 00:32:11,732 Get out! Get out! 601 00:32:14,268 --> 00:32:16,304 Wait. 602 00:32:16,338 --> 00:32:17,606 wait. 603 00:32:21,409 --> 00:32:23,978 They lied to me. 604 00:32:24,011 --> 00:32:26,113 They told me we would have won by now. 605 00:32:28,249 --> 00:32:31,785 Call them! Tell them to get McCluskey! 606 00:32:32,853 --> 00:32:33,988 Obviously, 607 00:32:34,021 --> 00:32:35,423 the case didn't get to court in time. 608 00:32:40,261 --> 00:32:42,896 Ha-ha! Mr. Floyd, welcome to Dallas. 609 00:32:42,930 --> 00:32:44,131 - How's the Governor? - He's still reeling 610 00:32:44,164 --> 00:32:45,966 over your Lee Harvey Oswald debacle. 611 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,737 Well, he should have appointed me instead of Sarah Hughes. 612 00:32:48,769 --> 00:32:49,803 You'll want to hear this. 613 00:32:49,837 --> 00:32:51,573 Two young lawyers just filed... 614 00:32:51,606 --> 00:32:54,942 Whoop dee doo, goody for them. 615 00:32:54,975 --> 00:32:57,312 In Judge Hughes' court, and it's about... 616 00:32:57,345 --> 00:33:01,915 Oh, let me guess, abortion! 617 00:33:03,050 --> 00:33:06,020 You know, that Sarah Hughes, she... 618 00:33:06,053 --> 00:33:07,489 anything to get at me. 619 00:33:08,789 --> 00:33:10,190 So. 620 00:33:10,224 --> 00:33:14,128 So, these gals, fresh out of UT Law, 621 00:33:14,161 --> 00:33:16,765 are bringin' an abortion case to Texas. 622 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,269 Thank you. I needed a good laugh. 623 00:33:22,304 --> 00:33:23,804 You should be worried, Hank! 624 00:33:23,837 --> 00:33:26,874 About what? Prissy feminists looking to stir up the pot? 625 00:33:26,907 --> 00:33:28,443 Tolle, come in here. You need to hear this. 626 00:33:28,476 --> 00:33:30,345 They're causing a ruckus all over the country. 627 00:33:30,378 --> 00:33:32,314 Any decent lawyer 628 00:33:32,347 --> 00:33:34,783 can try this case with his eyes closed. 629 00:33:34,815 --> 00:33:37,686 You-you-you argue the case. 630 00:33:37,719 --> 00:33:40,455 Show these girls some good old-fashioned Texas morals. 631 00:33:40,488 --> 00:33:41,889 It's not about morals, Hank! 632 00:33:41,922 --> 00:33:43,325 Well, that's just ignorant. 633 00:33:43,358 --> 00:33:46,026 Why don't we legalize murder while we're at it? 634 00:33:46,060 --> 00:33:47,629 Who's this Jane Roe anyway? 635 00:33:50,030 --> 00:33:54,336 Well, she's healthy, so the baby can't kill her. 636 00:33:54,369 --> 00:33:57,472 So, she can't have an abortion in Texas. 637 00:33:57,505 --> 00:34:00,207 Why doesn't she move to New York City? 638 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,744 They're gonna bring up some women's rights violations. 639 00:34:02,777 --> 00:34:05,547 A woman's right to kill her own baby? 640 00:34:08,683 --> 00:34:09,718 You're right. 641 00:34:11,285 --> 00:34:12,587 There's no way anyone with a conscience 642 00:34:12,620 --> 00:34:13,822 could legalize killin' a child. 643 00:34:13,854 --> 00:34:16,090 And that's why I prosecuted Jack Ruby 644 00:34:16,123 --> 00:34:18,158 for killing Lee Harvey Oswald. 645 00:34:18,192 --> 00:34:20,994 No judge or jury in their right mind 646 00:34:21,028 --> 00:34:26,166 would ever let abortion happen in Texas, ever. 647 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,736 Ever. 648 00:34:27,769 --> 00:34:29,169 I'm Jay Floyd, 649 00:34:29,203 --> 00:34:30,904 Assistant Attorney General of the State of Texas. 650 00:34:30,938 --> 00:34:32,005 The parties in this lawsuit 651 00:34:32,039 --> 00:34:32,807 have no standing before the court. 652 00:34:33,941 --> 00:34:35,410 Jane Roe no longer seeks an abortion. 653 00:34:35,443 --> 00:34:37,177 She has had the baby or is having it. 654 00:34:37,211 --> 00:34:38,178 Are we gonna let the delay 655 00:34:38,212 --> 00:34:40,280 in the hearing abort the case? 656 00:34:40,315 --> 00:34:42,417 She may want to engage in activity 657 00:34:42,450 --> 00:34:43,685 where she'll become pregnant, 658 00:34:43,718 --> 00:34:45,252 and then she may want an abortion. 659 00:34:45,285 --> 00:34:47,221 The law's whether or not the party has standing 660 00:34:47,254 --> 00:34:49,457 at the time the issues are decided in the case. 661 00:34:49,491 --> 00:34:51,459 This statute takes effect 662 00:34:51,493 --> 00:34:54,261 regardless of when the embryo takes effect. 663 00:34:54,294 --> 00:34:56,431 I mean, at first week? 664 00:34:56,464 --> 00:34:57,632 There have been many arguments 665 00:34:57,665 --> 00:34:59,467 as to when an embryo becomes a human being. 666 00:34:59,501 --> 00:35:01,101 There have been many religious groups 667 00:35:01,135 --> 00:35:02,704 that have joined in that controversy, 668 00:35:02,737 --> 00:35:05,105 and I'm not setting forth the Catholic faith. 669 00:35:05,139 --> 00:35:07,241 How is that gettin' you anywhere? 670 00:35:07,274 --> 00:35:08,710 The point is, 671 00:35:08,743 --> 00:35:10,545 the state's interest is whether or not murder occurs, 672 00:35:10,578 --> 00:35:12,913 and if the embryo is considered a human being. 673 00:35:12,946 --> 00:35:16,418 There have been many opinions on privacy. 674 00:35:16,451 --> 00:35:20,755 So, you're saying that if Texas were to approve abortion, 675 00:35:20,789 --> 00:35:24,559 that it would be considered a direct killin' of our citizens? 676 00:35:24,592 --> 00:35:28,329 I-I think this is a bad word in this situation, 677 00:35:28,363 --> 00:35:29,831 although everybody seems to want to use it. 678 00:35:29,864 --> 00:35:31,733 I haven't come up with a phrase myself, 679 00:35:31,766 --> 00:35:33,768 but I don't think privacy is gonna do it. 680 00:35:33,802 --> 00:35:36,170 The State's position is the right of that child to life 681 00:35:36,203 --> 00:35:38,606 is superior to the woman's right to privacy. 682 00:35:40,341 --> 00:35:41,476 Then an argument could be made 683 00:35:41,509 --> 00:35:44,077 that an abortion isn't necessary, 684 00:35:44,111 --> 00:35:46,448 a medical argument because of the health of the mother. 685 00:35:46,481 --> 00:35:48,416 Any possible change in the relevant law 686 00:35:48,450 --> 00:35:51,453 is a matter for the state legislators and not the courts. 687 00:36:02,464 --> 00:36:05,834 First Amendment rights or Ninth Amendment rights, 688 00:36:05,867 --> 00:36:07,469 I feel that they are so important that they deserve 689 00:36:07,502 --> 00:36:09,370 special protection. 690 00:36:09,404 --> 00:36:11,706 They involve fundamental human freedoms. 691 00:36:11,739 --> 00:36:14,542 The State has not tried to prosecute unfairly, has it? 692 00:36:14,576 --> 00:36:16,511 The State is prosecuting against physicians. 693 00:36:16,544 --> 00:36:19,179 Do you think the entire statute should be stricken? 694 00:36:19,213 --> 00:36:20,415 Yes. 695 00:36:22,082 --> 00:36:23,885 - Is the court worried about...? - Ah... 696 00:36:23,918 --> 00:36:26,454 We worry about a lot of things. Don't let that worry you. 697 00:36:29,557 --> 00:36:31,124 I think the statute is so bad 698 00:36:31,158 --> 00:36:33,495 that the court just has to strike it all down. 699 00:36:33,528 --> 00:36:37,532 So, you think 63 years of unconstitutionality 700 00:36:37,565 --> 00:36:40,969 should've worn everyone's constitutional patience? 701 00:36:41,001 --> 00:36:42,135 Is that what you're saying? 702 00:36:42,169 --> 00:36:43,505 I think the State has had plenty of time 703 00:36:43,538 --> 00:36:45,038 to construe this statute. 704 00:36:59,387 --> 00:37:01,756 This was the judge Linda clerked for, 705 00:37:01,789 --> 00:37:03,223 and she obviously made her decision 706 00:37:03,257 --> 00:37:05,393 before she even heard the case. 707 00:37:05,426 --> 00:37:07,261 I think the wink gave it away. 708 00:37:09,129 --> 00:37:11,566 I would like to draw to the court's attention that life 709 00:37:11,599 --> 00:37:13,835 is an ongoing process. 710 00:37:13,868 --> 00:37:15,870 It is almost impossible to define at which point 711 00:37:15,904 --> 00:37:18,006 life begins or 712 00:37:18,038 --> 00:37:20,173 perhaps even when life ends. 713 00:37:20,207 --> 00:37:24,244 Assuming there is a Ninth Amendment right to privacy, 714 00:37:24,278 --> 00:37:25,847 does the state have any compelling reason 715 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,550 to regulate or modify that right? 716 00:37:28,583 --> 00:37:30,919 I cannot see any justification for regulation 717 00:37:30,952 --> 00:37:33,021 when the abortion's being done by a doctor. 718 00:37:33,053 --> 00:37:36,524 The state of the pregnancy or anything? 719 00:37:36,558 --> 00:37:40,060 The stage of the pregnancy is pause for concern, um. 720 00:37:41,496 --> 00:37:44,032 You could recognize life when the fetus is able to live 721 00:37:44,064 --> 00:37:46,266 outside the body of the mother. 722 00:37:46,300 --> 00:37:49,537 It might be dependent on whether she has money or not? 723 00:37:49,571 --> 00:37:54,042 The young, those still in school, 724 00:37:54,074 --> 00:37:59,279 those unable to shoulder the responsibility of a child, 725 00:37:59,314 --> 00:38:01,883 these girls should not be put through the pregnancy 726 00:38:01,916 --> 00:38:04,284 and should be entitled to an abortion. 727 00:38:20,635 --> 00:38:22,135 Gentlemen, inside, now! 728 00:38:25,607 --> 00:38:28,576 I told you any decent lawyer could win this case! 729 00:38:28,610 --> 00:38:31,779 You, Mr. Floyd, are apparently not a decent lawyer. 730 00:38:31,813 --> 00:38:33,581 The judge's decision was political; 731 00:38:33,615 --> 00:38:34,782 nobody could've done anything. 732 00:38:34,816 --> 00:38:36,149 You weren't prepared! 733 00:38:36,183 --> 00:38:39,252 You didn't bring in any medical experts to testify 734 00:38:39,286 --> 00:38:41,489 that life begins at conception! 735 00:38:41,522 --> 00:38:44,191 They said the Constitution didn't apply to the unborn. 736 00:38:44,224 --> 00:38:45,660 We'll fight the decision, Hank! 737 00:38:45,693 --> 00:38:49,097 Fight? You didn't even bring in all of the case law. 738 00:38:49,129 --> 00:38:52,600 Dozens that do protect the rights of the unborn! 739 00:38:52,634 --> 00:38:54,167 You've embarrassed this office. 740 00:38:54,201 --> 00:38:56,169 Sir, if you would just listen to what I have to say, I could... 741 00:38:56,203 --> 00:38:59,807 Planned Parenthood in their own words agree, 742 00:38:59,841 --> 00:39:04,379 "Abortion kills the life of the baby after it's begun"! 743 00:39:04,412 --> 00:39:06,648 Right here in their own damn pamphlet! 744 00:39:11,151 --> 00:39:13,554 You research this Jane Roe 745 00:39:13,588 --> 00:39:15,957 to see if she's telling the truth. 746 00:39:15,990 --> 00:39:18,726 Mr. Tolle, I will deal with you. 747 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,062 Mr. Floyd, you deal with the Governor. 748 00:39:25,265 --> 00:39:27,869 I will appeal this all the way to the Supreme Court, 749 00:39:27,902 --> 00:39:29,937 so help me God! 750 00:39:31,406 --> 00:39:33,173 Until the appeals process is over, 751 00:39:33,206 --> 00:39:36,243 abortion is still illegal in Texas. 752 00:39:36,276 --> 00:39:39,080 Potter keeps pushing Roe. 753 00:39:39,113 --> 00:39:40,247 I think we should wait. 754 00:39:41,749 --> 00:39:42,817 The Senate has rejected 755 00:39:42,850 --> 00:39:45,920 each of Nixon's appointments so far. 756 00:39:45,953 --> 00:39:47,855 Who knows how long this could take. 757 00:39:47,889 --> 00:39:50,758 Obviously, they're just trying as many cases as they can 758 00:39:50,792 --> 00:39:52,225 while they're still in control. 759 00:39:53,861 --> 00:39:55,730 Your letter to Nixon did help get your friend 760 00:39:55,763 --> 00:39:57,065 Blackmun on the bench. 761 00:39:57,098 --> 00:39:58,866 Well, I had to do something. 762 00:39:58,900 --> 00:40:02,403 Nothing like that has happened in 40 years. 763 00:40:02,437 --> 00:40:04,271 At this rate, the liberals will never let Nixon 764 00:40:04,305 --> 00:40:06,741 appoint any new justices. 765 00:40:06,774 --> 00:40:09,877 It could be Rehnquist and Powell. 766 00:40:09,911 --> 00:40:12,413 Who the hell knows where they stand. 767 00:40:12,447 --> 00:40:13,681 What are you thinking, Byron? 768 00:40:13,715 --> 00:40:16,050 Seven judges, only six are required. 769 00:40:16,084 --> 00:40:17,618 The Supreme Court 770 00:40:17,652 --> 00:40:18,920 has nine justices. 771 00:40:18,953 --> 00:40:20,621 Two had just retired, 772 00:40:20,655 --> 00:40:22,255 and Nixon was fighting with the Senate 773 00:40:22,289 --> 00:40:24,425 over his replacements. 774 00:40:24,459 --> 00:40:30,531 This is far too. Too sensitive a matter for seven. 775 00:40:30,565 --> 00:40:32,232 Well, we just decided the Vuitch case. 776 00:40:32,265 --> 00:40:34,736 I'll bring that up and we'll-we'll move on. 777 00:40:36,304 --> 00:40:38,773 Roe v. Wade, in the grand scheme of things, 778 00:40:38,806 --> 00:40:41,409 is not that important. 779 00:40:41,442 --> 00:40:42,543 The Vuitch case! 780 00:40:42,577 --> 00:40:45,113 I don't-I don't see the correlation. 781 00:40:45,146 --> 00:40:47,215 These people, they want-they want abortion 782 00:40:47,247 --> 00:40:49,050 for reasons other than life or health. 783 00:40:49,083 --> 00:40:50,451 They want abortion on demand. 784 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,921 Well, we'll see. 785 00:41:03,197 --> 00:41:05,133 What's all the commotion, my jurists? 786 00:41:06,934 --> 00:41:09,971 Professor, everyone's talking about what's happening in Texas. 787 00:41:10,004 --> 00:41:11,506 Is that what's on your minds? 788 00:41:11,539 --> 00:41:13,808 Only fanatics are against abortion. 789 00:41:13,841 --> 00:41:15,109 Oh, really? 790 00:41:17,145 --> 00:41:18,179 Mother Teresa? 791 00:41:18,212 --> 00:41:20,014 Martin Luther King? The Dalai Lama? 792 00:41:21,883 --> 00:41:23,484 "It would seem to me clear as daylight 793 00:41:23,518 --> 00:41:25,353 - that abortion would be a crime." - Mahatma Gandhi. 794 00:41:25,386 --> 00:41:26,521 Fanatics? 795 00:41:26,554 --> 00:41:28,189 None of them were getting pregnant. 796 00:41:28,222 --> 00:41:30,992 Regardless, we should have the right to control our own bodies. 797 00:41:31,025 --> 00:41:32,994 Yes, one should have the right 798 00:41:33,027 --> 00:41:34,996 to do whatever she wants with her own actual body. 799 00:41:35,029 --> 00:41:36,764 But let me ask you something. 800 00:41:36,798 --> 00:41:39,433 What happens when that body 801 00:41:39,467 --> 00:41:41,969 starts to interfere with another body? 802 00:41:42,003 --> 00:41:43,004 You mean, the rights of the fetus? 803 00:41:43,037 --> 00:41:45,706 It is part of our own bodies. 804 00:41:45,740 --> 00:41:47,375 All of your body parts 805 00:41:47,408 --> 00:41:51,045 share the same DNA, except the fetus. 806 00:41:51,078 --> 00:41:53,381 So, the child, by definition, 807 00:41:53,414 --> 00:41:56,684 is not part of anyone's body but their own. 808 00:41:56,717 --> 00:41:58,152 But how can you say it's a life? 809 00:41:58,186 --> 00:41:59,487 It can't live without the mother. 810 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,956 Well, Dan. 811 00:42:01,989 --> 00:42:03,491 Were you able to feed yourself 812 00:42:03,524 --> 00:42:05,359 without your mother, the day after you were born? 813 00:42:05,393 --> 00:42:06,794 - Well. - Not even a one-year-old 814 00:42:06,828 --> 00:42:09,130 or a two-year-old can take care of themselves. 815 00:42:09,163 --> 00:42:11,699 Dan can't even take care of himself now. 816 00:42:14,068 --> 00:42:15,069 You think this is funny? 817 00:42:16,871 --> 00:42:20,208 You all protest the killing in Vietnam. 818 00:42:20,241 --> 00:42:23,010 So, am I confused, or is this just hypocrisy? 819 00:42:23,044 --> 00:42:24,212 The elderly, 820 00:42:24,245 --> 00:42:26,747 the handicapped, the incapacitated, 821 00:42:26,781 --> 00:42:28,149 they can't take care of themselves. 822 00:42:28,182 --> 00:42:29,517 Should we eliminate them too? 823 00:42:29,550 --> 00:42:31,085 What about birth defects? 824 00:42:31,118 --> 00:42:34,522 To kill an unborn child because of defects 825 00:42:34,555 --> 00:42:37,692 is what the Nazis used to do to the Jews. 826 00:42:37,725 --> 00:42:38,926 Let me give you a riddle. 827 00:42:42,063 --> 00:42:43,831 The father, 828 00:42:43,865 --> 00:42:45,666 syphilitic. 829 00:42:45,700 --> 00:42:47,535 The mother had tuberculosis. 830 00:42:47,568 --> 00:42:50,705 Of their four children, one was blind, the second died, 831 00:42:50,738 --> 00:42:52,106 the third was deaf and dumb, 832 00:42:52,139 --> 00:42:53,641 and the fourth had tuberculosis, too. 833 00:42:56,277 --> 00:42:57,745 If the mother got pregnant again, 834 00:43:00,448 --> 00:43:01,949 what would you do with the baby? 835 00:43:01,983 --> 00:43:03,284 I wouldn't want my child 836 00:43:03,318 --> 00:43:05,553 to grow up disabled and suffer. 837 00:43:05,586 --> 00:43:07,121 You would have killed Beethoven. 838 00:43:08,556 --> 00:43:11,425 Don't you think that someone's hopelessness 839 00:43:11,459 --> 00:43:15,364 should motivate us to protect them, 840 00:43:15,396 --> 00:43:16,931 not destroy them? 841 00:43:23,305 --> 00:43:24,438 Is everything okay? 842 00:43:26,741 --> 00:43:31,979 I.I can't take care of a baby right now. 843 00:43:32,013 --> 00:43:32,847 I see. 844 00:43:34,349 --> 00:43:36,751 And I can't tell my family about this. 845 00:43:41,422 --> 00:43:42,823 They can't know. 846 00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:46,894 You do know I love you, right? 847 00:43:46,928 --> 00:43:49,096 I can't take care of a baby right now. 848 00:44:03,678 --> 00:44:05,112 My life is over. 849 00:44:05,146 --> 00:44:07,081 I'm so sorry, Mary. 850 00:44:07,114 --> 00:44:09,450 The hospital limits me with quotas. 851 00:44:09,483 --> 00:44:11,786 So, each of you are only permitted to do 852 00:44:11,819 --> 00:44:13,322 20 abortions a week. 853 00:44:13,355 --> 00:44:14,789 That's like saying I've done too many gall bladders 854 00:44:14,822 --> 00:44:16,490 but I can still do hernia repairs. 855 00:44:16,524 --> 00:44:18,826 This is a democratic approach. 856 00:44:18,859 --> 00:44:21,629 To limit a woman's access to health care? 857 00:44:21,662 --> 00:44:24,131 Staff members should have equal access to beds and ORs. 858 00:44:24,165 --> 00:44:25,833 I've already fulfilled my quota. 859 00:44:25,866 --> 00:44:28,936 Dr. Berg won't do abortions, let me use his. 860 00:44:28,970 --> 00:44:31,839 We can't transfer another doctor's quotas to you. 861 00:44:31,872 --> 00:44:37,278 Hah, I get this. I get what's going on here. 862 00:44:37,312 --> 00:44:40,047 This is an attack on us! Why? 863 00:44:40,081 --> 00:44:43,484 Because we were the ones outspoken on reform? 864 00:44:43,517 --> 00:44:45,720 Yeah, I've heard the whispers in the locker room 865 00:44:45,753 --> 00:44:47,521 and I've gotten the looks in the hallway, 866 00:44:47,555 --> 00:44:49,690 the half portions in the cafeteria, 867 00:44:49,724 --> 00:44:52,293 the sneers and the nicknames. 868 00:44:52,327 --> 00:44:55,629 This isn't high school. You can't hurt me. 869 00:44:55,663 --> 00:44:57,131 Because I'm proud of what I do, 870 00:44:57,164 --> 00:44:59,633 and I'm proud to help the women of this country. 871 00:44:59,667 --> 00:45:02,471 So, if you wanna humiliate me 872 00:45:02,503 --> 00:45:06,707 and call me the Scraper behind my back, 873 00:45:06,741 --> 00:45:09,510 I'll wear it as a badge of honor. 874 00:45:09,543 --> 00:45:14,582 Or if you wanna ridicule me and call me the Abortion King, 875 00:45:14,615 --> 00:45:17,685 I'll wear that title with pride. 876 00:45:17,718 --> 00:45:19,920 Because when a woman is at her wits' end, 877 00:45:19,954 --> 00:45:21,689 and she has no one else to turn to, 878 00:45:21,722 --> 00:45:24,258 when she's too frightened to tell her family 879 00:45:24,291 --> 00:45:26,927 or fears going to the butcher, 880 00:45:26,961 --> 00:45:28,596 when she has to spend her last dime 881 00:45:28,629 --> 00:45:30,097 to catch the Greyhound 882 00:45:30,131 --> 00:45:32,434 or hitchhike her way to New York, 883 00:45:32,467 --> 00:45:36,270 when she breaks down in tears crying out for her savior 884 00:45:36,304 --> 00:45:40,207 and when your God can't help her, Kenneth. 885 00:45:41,776 --> 00:45:44,078 Who do you think she's crying for? 886 00:45:51,118 --> 00:45:52,720 I decided to fight back, 887 00:45:52,753 --> 00:45:55,390 so I had Larry call and leak the story to the press 888 00:45:55,424 --> 00:45:57,625 and feed some of this good raw meat 889 00:45:57,658 --> 00:45:59,660 to the drooling beasts in the media. 890 00:46:01,128 --> 00:46:02,897 Yeah. Hi, Kate? 891 00:46:02,930 --> 00:46:04,899 Yes, Larry Lader. 892 00:46:04,932 --> 00:46:06,801 How are you? 893 00:46:06,834 --> 00:46:09,136 I have a story for you. 894 00:46:11,306 --> 00:46:13,408 Hi. I was hoping to speak to someone 895 00:46:13,442 --> 00:46:15,176 about the quotas you put on abortions. 896 00:46:20,081 --> 00:46:22,883 It's amazing how the quotas magically dried up. 897 00:46:22,917 --> 00:46:26,053 Time of death? 898 00:46:26,087 --> 00:46:28,155 And the Medicine section of Time Magazine 899 00:46:28,189 --> 00:46:29,990 had a three-column spread. 900 00:46:31,493 --> 00:46:34,662 Thanks for getting those quotas lifted, Your Majesty. 901 00:46:34,695 --> 00:46:36,163 Aw. Thank you, Sire. 902 00:46:36,197 --> 00:46:38,999 Your favorite, corn flakes. 903 00:46:41,369 --> 00:46:45,272 You know that John Harvey Kellogg 904 00:46:45,307 --> 00:46:49,243 created corn flakes as an anti-aphrodisiac. 905 00:46:49,276 --> 00:46:53,114 He believed bland foods decreased sex drive. 906 00:46:53,147 --> 00:46:54,416 Oh, well. 907 00:46:54,449 --> 00:46:57,284 I hope that's not true, for Joan's sake. 908 00:46:57,319 --> 00:46:59,286 Did I miss something? 909 00:46:59,321 --> 00:47:01,523 Yeah, your husband's trivial knowledge. 910 00:47:01,556 --> 00:47:04,125 He also founded the Race Betterment Foundation 911 00:47:04,158 --> 00:47:06,827 which paved the way for Margaret Sanger. 912 00:47:06,861 --> 00:47:08,662 Don't eat that. 913 00:47:08,696 --> 00:47:09,630 Huh? 914 00:47:13,834 --> 00:47:15,537 Are you gonna stop me? 915 00:47:15,570 --> 00:47:16,737 Eat up. 916 00:47:27,014 --> 00:47:29,584 Could you quiet them down, Joan? 917 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,456 Let me show you somethin'. 918 00:47:35,756 --> 00:47:37,691 We need to come up with a jingle. 919 00:47:37,725 --> 00:47:39,528 Something catchy. 920 00:47:39,561 --> 00:47:41,996 Bernie, what was that song you told me about? 921 00:47:42,029 --> 00:47:44,865 The one that doctors used to sing during your residency. 922 00:47:44,899 --> 00:47:46,501 Oh, I can't do that. 923 00:47:46,535 --> 00:47:48,035 - I can't... - You have a song? 924 00:47:49,404 --> 00:47:50,572 Aw, come on, Bernie. Don't be shy. 925 00:47:50,605 --> 00:47:52,039 No way, no, no, no, no. 926 00:47:52,072 --> 00:47:53,174 Let it out. 927 00:47:53,207 --> 00:47:54,675 I'm no Stravinsky. I can't, I can't... 928 00:47:54,708 --> 00:47:58,480 Well, Joan is. Joan! Joan, help. 929 00:47:58,513 --> 00:48:00,181 Why don't you get us started. 930 00:48:00,214 --> 00:48:02,183 - I'll join in. - Ah. 931 00:48:02,216 --> 00:48:03,518 Come on. Come on, Bernie. 932 00:48:03,552 --> 00:48:04,818 Okay, fine, fine, fine. 933 00:48:04,852 --> 00:48:06,421 Sing it! 934 00:48:07,522 --> 00:48:08,590 Okay. Fine. 935 00:48:08,623 --> 00:48:12,661 ♪ There's a fortune In abortion ♪ 936 00:48:12,693 --> 00:48:16,897 ♪ Just a twist of the wrist And you're through ♪ 937 00:48:16,931 --> 00:48:21,536 ♪ The population of the nation ♪ 938 00:48:21,570 --> 00:48:25,005 ♪ Won't grow If it's left up to you ♪ 939 00:48:25,039 --> 00:48:29,678 ♪ There's a fortune In abortion ♪ 940 00:48:29,710 --> 00:48:33,781 ♪ There's a gold mine In the sex line ♪ 941 00:48:33,814 --> 00:48:38,520 ♪ Only rabbits Have those habits ♪ 942 00:48:38,553 --> 00:48:43,290 ♪ Oh there's a fortune In abortion ♪ 943 00:48:43,325 --> 00:48:48,762 ♪ You never bother The future father ♪ 944 00:48:48,796 --> 00:48:50,264 I found the Catholics! 945 00:48:50,297 --> 00:48:51,899 Those Vatican devils, 946 00:48:51,932 --> 00:48:53,934 starting right here with the big cheese: 947 00:48:53,968 --> 00:48:56,471 Cardinal Cooke, Father McHugh, 948 00:48:56,504 --> 00:48:58,872 Robert Byrn, Charlie Rice, 949 00:48:58,906 --> 00:49:01,409 Ellen McCormack, even Ed Golden. 950 00:49:01,443 --> 00:49:04,044 If we're gonna succeed, people have gotta be scared! 951 00:49:04,078 --> 00:49:06,280 Well, men are governed by lines of intellect, 952 00:49:06,314 --> 00:49:07,982 women by curves of emotion. 953 00:49:08,015 --> 00:49:09,618 That's our Catholic strategy, right there. 954 00:49:09,651 --> 00:49:11,118 Perfect. 955 00:49:11,151 --> 00:49:13,421 Well, these guys have been scaring people for years! 956 00:49:13,455 --> 00:49:15,055 How are we looking on the new numbers? 957 00:49:15,089 --> 00:49:17,091 A million illegal abortions a year; 958 00:49:17,124 --> 00:49:18,792 10,000 die in back alleys. 959 00:49:18,826 --> 00:49:20,662 I completely made that up. 960 00:49:20,695 --> 00:49:22,963 A million illegal abortions a year? 961 00:49:22,997 --> 00:49:26,934 Ten thousand die in back alleys? Not even close. 962 00:49:26,967 --> 00:49:28,670 That's like a hand grenade in a maternity ward. 963 00:49:28,703 --> 00:49:31,805 But we need slogans, battle cries. 964 00:49:31,839 --> 00:49:32,973 Not statistics. 965 00:49:33,007 --> 00:49:34,342 People trust numbers. 966 00:49:34,376 --> 00:49:35,510 Yeah. 967 00:49:35,543 --> 00:49:38,279 Cyril's right. People do trust numbers. 968 00:49:38,313 --> 00:49:40,348 But Betty is also right. 969 00:49:40,382 --> 00:49:42,283 People need something to grab on to, 970 00:49:42,317 --> 00:49:44,452 something to hook in their brains 971 00:49:44,486 --> 00:49:46,186 that feel like they're part of the movement. 972 00:49:46,220 --> 00:49:47,154 You want a slogan? 973 00:49:47,187 --> 00:49:48,122 Yeah. 974 00:49:49,223 --> 00:49:50,858 I have a slogan. 975 00:49:50,891 --> 00:49:53,927 It's a woman's body. It's her right to choose. 976 00:49:53,961 --> 00:49:55,664 We are the pro-choice people. 977 00:49:55,697 --> 00:49:57,365 - That's amazing. - Pro-choice. 978 00:49:57,399 --> 00:49:58,466 Uh-huh. 979 00:49:58,500 --> 00:49:59,833 Pro... we're pro-choice. 980 00:49:59,867 --> 00:50:03,338 Yes, it's-it's pro-freedom, it-it's pro-liberty. 981 00:50:03,371 --> 00:50:04,972 Who can argue with it? 982 00:50:05,005 --> 00:50:07,141 They came up with the slogan... pro-choice. 983 00:50:07,174 --> 00:50:09,009 Pro-choice? 984 00:50:10,645 --> 00:50:14,549 What an evasive, fraudulent and deceptive term. 985 00:50:14,582 --> 00:50:16,116 According to recent statistics, 986 00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:18,720 over one million women are having illegal abortions 987 00:50:18,753 --> 00:50:20,287 every year in America. 988 00:50:20,322 --> 00:50:22,056 And over 10,000 are dying 989 00:50:22,089 --> 00:50:24,191 from these back alley type procedures. 990 00:50:28,430 --> 00:50:30,332 Why aren't we taking our own polls? 991 00:50:30,365 --> 00:50:32,467 They told the press that one in three Catholics 992 00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:33,735 are for abortion! 993 00:50:33,768 --> 00:50:35,035 Because we don't have the money! 994 00:50:35,069 --> 00:50:36,170 Why didn't this Jane Roe 995 00:50:36,203 --> 00:50:38,005 just give the baby up for adoption? 996 00:50:38,038 --> 00:50:40,742 There is a long waiting list for white babies. 997 00:50:42,042 --> 00:50:42,943 This was political. 998 00:50:45,012 --> 00:50:46,348 Judge Hughes kept her hidden. 999 00:50:48,350 --> 00:50:50,585 We gotta get Wade on the phone. 1000 00:50:55,889 --> 00:50:56,990 District Attorney's office, 1001 00:50:57,024 --> 00:50:58,058 may I help you? 1002 00:50:58,092 --> 00:50:59,761 Robert Byrn for Henry Wade. 1003 00:50:59,794 --> 00:51:01,696 What can I do for you, Bobby? 1004 00:51:01,730 --> 00:51:03,365 I've got the team here. 1005 00:51:03,398 --> 00:51:05,533 The Supreme Court will hear the case! 1006 00:51:07,301 --> 00:51:08,536 Let us know if we can help. 1007 00:51:11,373 --> 00:51:12,574 It was time to prepare 1008 00:51:12,607 --> 00:51:13,608 for the Supreme Court. 1009 00:51:14,908 --> 00:51:16,877 While some focused on saving lives, 1010 00:51:19,547 --> 00:51:21,281 others had no idea what was coming. 1011 00:51:23,785 --> 00:51:25,919 Everyone had their own agenda. 1012 00:51:25,953 --> 00:51:27,856 We used Sarah and the lawyers from Planned Parenthood 1013 00:51:27,888 --> 00:51:28,989 to fulfill ours. 1014 00:51:31,826 --> 00:51:33,395 Certainties as unquestioned 1015 00:51:33,428 --> 00:51:36,731 as the U.S. Constitution itself, trembled! 1016 00:51:56,584 --> 00:51:58,152 All rise! 1017 00:52:14,469 --> 00:52:17,070 There were still only seven justices 1018 00:52:17,104 --> 00:52:18,972 because Nixon still wasn't able to 1019 00:52:19,006 --> 00:52:20,842 get his two picks confirmed. 1020 00:52:23,711 --> 00:52:25,914 I am completely out of my depth. 1021 00:52:25,946 --> 00:52:27,281 Don't be nervous. 1022 00:52:27,315 --> 00:52:29,149 You had the best of the best prepare you. 1023 00:52:30,017 --> 00:52:31,453 You'll be fine. 1024 00:52:58,580 --> 00:53:02,182 We will hear arguments 1025 00:53:02,216 --> 00:53:05,620 in Roe against Wade. 1026 00:53:05,653 --> 00:53:07,822 Mrs. Weddington, you may proceed. 1027 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,169 Mr. Chief Justice, may it please the court. 1028 00:53:23,872 --> 00:53:26,641 The court declared the Texas abortion law 1029 00:53:26,674 --> 00:53:30,077 to be unconstitutional for two reasons. 1030 00:53:30,110 --> 00:53:32,914 First, the law was vague, 1031 00:53:32,947 --> 00:53:36,518 and second, it violated a woman's right 1032 00:53:36,551 --> 00:53:39,587 to continue or terminate a pregnancy. 1033 00:53:39,621 --> 00:53:42,657 The Texas law permits abortions be performed 1034 00:53:42,690 --> 00:53:45,693 only for the purpose of saving the life of the woman. 1035 00:53:47,529 --> 00:53:50,097 When this case of yours 1036 00:53:50,130 --> 00:53:51,666 was in the district court, 1037 00:53:51,699 --> 00:53:54,736 the case of Vuitch against the United States 1038 00:53:54,769 --> 00:53:57,005 had not been decided here. 1039 00:53:57,037 --> 00:53:58,071 That is correct. 1040 00:53:58,105 --> 00:53:59,607 Now that it has, 1041 00:53:59,641 --> 00:54:01,509 do you think that that disposes of 1042 00:54:01,543 --> 00:54:03,578 some of the questions you're raising now? 1043 00:54:03,611 --> 00:54:05,947 Your Honor, I do not. 1044 00:54:05,980 --> 00:54:07,515 In the Vuitch decision, 1045 00:54:07,549 --> 00:54:10,418 this court was working with a statute which provided 1046 00:54:10,451 --> 00:54:12,252 that an abortion could be permitted 1047 00:54:12,286 --> 00:54:14,556 for reasons of health or life. 1048 00:54:14,589 --> 00:54:17,592 Does Texas law, in other areas of the law, 1049 00:54:17,625 --> 00:54:19,961 give rights to the unborn? 1050 00:54:19,994 --> 00:54:24,699 In an area such as trusts, estates, wills or elsewhere? 1051 00:54:24,732 --> 00:54:27,936 The Supreme Court of Texas recently held a case 1052 00:54:27,969 --> 00:54:31,138 in which there is action for prenatal injuries at any stage 1053 00:54:31,171 --> 00:54:33,942 prior to birth, but only upon the condition 1054 00:54:33,975 --> 00:54:35,743 that it be born alive. 1055 00:54:51,359 --> 00:54:53,995 Mr. Justice, it's an old joke, 1056 00:54:54,028 --> 00:54:58,733 but when a man argues against two beautiful ladies, 1057 00:54:58,766 --> 00:55:00,200 they're gonna have the last word. 1058 00:55:06,139 --> 00:55:10,645 As to the-as to the unmarried pregnant female, 1059 00:55:10,678 --> 00:55:13,180 a unique situation arises. 1060 00:55:13,213 --> 00:55:14,616 Is her action moot? 1061 00:55:16,451 --> 00:55:19,020 It has been recognized by the appellant's counsel 1062 00:55:19,053 --> 00:55:21,923 that she is no longer pregnant. 1063 00:55:21,956 --> 00:55:25,360 Of course, if moot, there is no case or controversy. 1064 00:55:25,393 --> 00:55:27,428 - Class action, wasn't it? - Yes, 1065 00:55:27,462 --> 00:55:29,296 but the whole purpose of class action 1066 00:55:29,330 --> 00:55:32,199 is to have a representative in court. 1067 00:55:32,232 --> 00:55:34,769 So, what procedure would you suggest 1068 00:55:34,802 --> 00:55:38,205 for any pregnant female in the State of Texas 1069 00:55:38,238 --> 00:55:42,010 to ever get judicial consideration? 1070 00:55:42,043 --> 00:55:43,478 We can take judicial notice 1071 00:55:43,511 --> 00:55:45,647 of the fact that at any given moment, 1072 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,550 there are unwed pregnant females in the State of Texas. 1073 00:55:52,219 --> 00:55:53,888 I think she makes her choice 1074 00:55:53,921 --> 00:55:56,357 prior to the time that she becomes pregnant. 1075 00:55:56,391 --> 00:55:58,559 Maybe she makes her choice 1076 00:55:58,593 --> 00:56:01,629 when she decides to live in Texas. 1077 00:56:10,538 --> 00:56:12,540 It should've been debated in Congress, not here. 1078 00:56:14,174 --> 00:56:15,977 "Courts are the mere instruments of the law, 1079 00:56:16,010 --> 00:56:17,478 and can will nothing." John Marshall. 1080 00:56:17,512 --> 00:56:18,880 Politicians don't have the courage 1081 00:56:18,913 --> 00:56:20,314 to argue with the legislature. 1082 00:56:20,348 --> 00:56:21,416 The right to life 1083 00:56:21,449 --> 00:56:22,583 is the cornerstone of our government. 1084 00:56:22,617 --> 00:56:24,385 It's a foundation of the Constitution. 1085 00:56:24,419 --> 00:56:27,588 They were mocking him in there. 1086 00:56:27,622 --> 00:56:29,924 I don't even know why this is in the Supreme Court. 1087 00:56:29,957 --> 00:56:31,592 There's no factual record in this case, 1088 00:56:31,626 --> 00:56:33,661 no trial, no expert witnesses, 1089 00:56:33,695 --> 00:56:35,163 no description of evidence, 1090 00:56:35,195 --> 00:56:37,197 no expert witness testimony. It didn't even go through 1091 00:56:37,230 --> 00:56:38,198 an appeal! 1092 00:56:38,231 --> 00:56:39,434 This is a conspiracy. 1093 00:56:39,467 --> 00:56:40,233 They're laughin' at him in there! 1094 00:56:40,267 --> 00:56:41,669 Laughin' at him! 1095 00:56:41,703 --> 00:56:43,270 They're not laughin' with him. They're laughin' at him! 1096 00:56:43,304 --> 00:56:45,440 It couldn't have been that bad. 1097 00:56:45,473 --> 00:56:47,341 You're a law professor. 1098 00:56:47,375 --> 00:56:49,744 He didn't even address the rights of the unborn 1099 00:56:49,777 --> 00:56:51,846 in property law, probate law, 1100 00:56:51,879 --> 00:56:54,782 criminal law, tort law, the list goes on. 1101 00:56:54,816 --> 00:56:58,519 The judges ask him what rights, if any, do the unborn have, 1102 00:56:58,553 --> 00:57:01,288 and he just stood there and didn't say anything. 1103 00:57:01,322 --> 00:57:03,124 I gotta go before I blow a gasket! 1104 00:57:06,494 --> 00:57:08,863 There's no more discussion for...? 1105 00:57:08,896 --> 00:57:10,431 For Roe? 1106 00:57:12,467 --> 00:57:13,801 The four justices on the right 1107 00:57:13,835 --> 00:57:15,636 with their hands up 1108 00:57:15,670 --> 00:57:19,440 voted to legalize abortion, while the three on the left, 1109 00:57:19,474 --> 00:57:23,911 including Chief Justice Burger, were supporting life. 1110 00:57:23,945 --> 00:57:27,181 This made it four to three in favor of abortion. 1111 00:57:40,094 --> 00:57:42,063 Apologize, gentlemen. 1112 00:57:42,096 --> 00:57:44,132 In the matter of Roe v. Wade, 1113 00:57:44,165 --> 00:57:47,001 I want the case reargued. 1114 00:57:47,034 --> 00:57:48,402 Chief Justice Burger was losing, 1115 00:57:48,436 --> 00:57:50,171 so he wanted the case reheard 1116 00:57:50,204 --> 00:57:53,741 to flip the vote in favor of life. 1117 00:57:53,775 --> 00:57:54,742 Well, besides the obvious, 1118 00:57:54,776 --> 00:57:56,077 what's your reasoning? 1119 00:57:56,110 --> 00:57:57,111 Four to three in favor of Roe, 1120 00:57:57,145 --> 00:57:58,513 it's very close. 1121 00:57:58,546 --> 00:57:59,914 We've had close decisions before. 1122 00:57:59,947 --> 00:58:01,249 Because it didn't go Warren's way. 1123 00:58:01,281 --> 00:58:02,583 That has nothing to do with it. 1124 00:58:02,617 --> 00:58:03,684 The importance of this issue 1125 00:58:03,718 --> 00:58:06,320 merits a full bench treatment. 1126 00:58:06,354 --> 00:58:07,355 Of course, Harry. 1127 00:58:07,388 --> 00:58:08,456 Because you're Warren's man. 1128 00:58:08,489 --> 00:58:09,791 I resent that. 1129 00:58:09,824 --> 00:58:11,626 You were best man at his wedding. 1130 00:58:11,659 --> 00:58:14,294 It was my idea to reargue in the first place. 1131 00:58:14,328 --> 00:58:18,032 Harry, you're here because he recommended you to Nixon. 1132 00:58:18,065 --> 00:58:20,201 Enough! We need to wait! 1133 00:58:20,234 --> 00:58:21,836 And why is that? Because this decision 1134 00:58:21,869 --> 00:58:24,672 might affect your old pal Nixon's re-election? 1135 00:58:24,705 --> 00:58:27,141 Really, Potter? 1136 00:58:27,175 --> 00:58:29,977 Can we rest the egos 1137 00:58:30,011 --> 00:58:32,313 and try to get a little work done, please? 1138 00:58:32,346 --> 00:58:34,682 Does anyone else have an opinion on this? 1139 00:58:34,715 --> 00:58:35,850 Yes, I don't see any problem 1140 00:58:35,883 --> 00:58:37,051 with rearguing. 1141 00:58:37,084 --> 00:58:38,553 Nixon opposes abortion, 1142 00:58:38,586 --> 00:58:41,289 so I'm sure his new justices will follow suit. 1143 00:58:41,322 --> 00:58:43,291 Two new justices voting Nixon's way 1144 00:58:43,324 --> 00:58:44,659 will change the outcome here. 1145 00:58:44,692 --> 00:58:46,394 Political allegiance should not affect 1146 00:58:46,427 --> 00:58:49,063 how we interpret the Constitution, gentlemen. 1147 00:58:49,096 --> 00:58:50,331 Yes, and with that, 1148 00:58:50,364 --> 00:58:52,400 I'm appointing Harry to pen the opinion. 1149 00:58:52,433 --> 00:58:54,635 I'm the senior justice in the majority. 1150 00:58:54,669 --> 00:58:56,704 I've got to agree with Bill, Warren. 1151 00:58:56,737 --> 00:58:58,506 - That's not standard protocol. - I'm the chief justice. 1152 00:58:58,539 --> 00:58:59,841 I determine protocol. 1153 00:58:59,874 --> 00:59:02,543 You are trying to control this, Warren, old buddy. 1154 00:59:02,577 --> 00:59:04,245 That is completely unethical. 1155 00:59:04,278 --> 00:59:05,880 Aren't you the one that pushed this case? 1156 00:59:08,749 --> 00:59:10,384 All those in favor of rearguing? 1157 00:59:12,553 --> 00:59:13,588 They voted six to one 1158 00:59:13,621 --> 00:59:16,357 to reargue Roe v. Wade. 1159 00:59:16,390 --> 00:59:19,827 There you go. That's it. 1160 00:59:19,861 --> 00:59:21,929 Justice Douglas was the only one 1161 00:59:21,963 --> 00:59:23,731 to oppose hearing the case again. 1162 00:59:30,271 --> 00:59:31,639 - William? - Hmm. 1163 00:59:32,740 --> 00:59:33,875 Bill. 1164 00:59:41,148 --> 00:59:42,683 It's a letter of protest 1165 00:59:42,717 --> 00:59:45,019 including my draft dissent to reargue. 1166 00:59:45,052 --> 00:59:46,520 The draft dissent 1167 00:59:46,554 --> 00:59:49,957 is a formal letter that outlines Justice Douglas' reasons 1168 00:59:49,991 --> 00:59:54,962 as to why he thought Roe v. Wade should not be reheard. 1169 00:59:54,996 --> 00:59:56,430 And why are you giving this to me? 1170 00:59:58,399 --> 01:00:01,402 Burger abused his power. 1171 01:00:01,435 --> 01:00:03,070 I'm the senior justice after him, 1172 01:00:03,104 --> 01:00:05,406 he was supposed to assign the case to me. 1173 01:00:05,439 --> 01:00:07,909 That's already been decided, okay? 1174 01:00:07,942 --> 01:00:09,410 Get off that. 1175 01:00:09,443 --> 01:00:10,444 Chief Justice is going to make sure 1176 01:00:10,478 --> 01:00:12,079 that we reargue this case. 1177 01:00:12,113 --> 01:00:15,750 The Senate just confirmed Rehnquist and Powell. 1178 01:00:15,783 --> 01:00:18,052 That will flip the decision. 1179 01:00:18,085 --> 01:00:19,120 You see, Justice Douglas 1180 01:00:19,153 --> 01:00:21,055 supported Jane Roe, 1181 01:00:21,088 --> 01:00:23,291 and right now, the vote was four to three 1182 01:00:23,325 --> 01:00:25,493 in his favor to win. 1183 01:00:25,526 --> 01:00:28,462 He was afraid if there was gonna be a reargument 1184 01:00:28,496 --> 01:00:32,099 with two new justices, the vote would flip 1185 01:00:32,133 --> 01:00:34,702 and it would be five-four, and he would lose. 1186 01:00:40,474 --> 01:00:42,176 Has Burger seen this? 1187 01:00:42,209 --> 01:00:43,678 Not yet. 1188 01:00:46,381 --> 01:00:48,417 You cannot send this letter to the press. 1189 01:00:48,449 --> 01:00:49,784 Promise me you're voting with us. 1190 01:00:49,817 --> 01:00:51,152 How dare you! 1191 01:00:51,185 --> 01:00:53,587 Promise me now, or this is going to be published. 1192 01:00:53,621 --> 01:00:55,289 You will disgrace the court. 1193 01:00:55,324 --> 01:00:57,258 If you don't wanna see that in the Post, 1194 01:00:57,291 --> 01:00:58,960 you need to assure me that a reargument 1195 01:00:58,993 --> 01:01:00,728 will not change your vote. 1196 01:01:19,513 --> 01:01:21,482 You need to make an issue of this. 1197 01:01:21,515 --> 01:01:23,352 I don't understand how a single justice 1198 01:01:23,385 --> 01:01:25,186 can order things his way. 1199 01:01:25,219 --> 01:01:26,988 Now you know how women feel. 1200 01:01:27,021 --> 01:01:28,656 I'm late, I have to get to the clinic. 1201 01:01:28,689 --> 01:01:30,958 I wish you wouldn't spend so much time at that place. 1202 01:01:30,992 --> 01:01:32,159 That place? 1203 01:01:32,193 --> 01:01:33,395 Planned Parenthood? 1204 01:01:33,428 --> 01:01:34,996 You don't want us supporting women? 1205 01:01:37,098 --> 01:01:38,666 We'll talk about it later. 1206 01:01:38,699 --> 01:01:39,867 Okay. 1207 01:01:39,900 --> 01:01:41,336 - Andy. - William. 1208 01:01:41,370 --> 01:01:42,703 - You're looking lovely. - Thank you. 1209 01:01:46,441 --> 01:01:47,842 Planned Parenthood? 1210 01:01:47,875 --> 01:01:49,877 Planned Parenthood? 1211 01:01:49,910 --> 01:01:53,382 Nobody knew Justice Stewart's wife worked there. 1212 01:01:53,415 --> 01:01:55,317 You need to recuse yourself. 1213 01:01:55,350 --> 01:01:56,650 Look, Bill. 1214 01:01:56,684 --> 01:01:58,586 My wife volunteers there, not me. 1215 01:01:58,619 --> 01:02:00,389 This is a major conflict of interest. 1216 01:02:00,422 --> 01:02:02,690 If word got out. 1217 01:02:02,723 --> 01:02:04,925 Please, you need to control your home. 1218 01:02:04,959 --> 01:02:07,194 What Burger did was worse. 1219 01:02:07,228 --> 01:02:08,763 He appointed Harry to write the opinion. 1220 01:02:08,796 --> 01:02:11,198 That is a gross abandonment of protocol. 1221 01:02:11,232 --> 01:02:13,034 We were ready to vote this four-three. 1222 01:02:15,636 --> 01:02:18,373 Potter, here's my letter and dissent. 1223 01:02:18,407 --> 01:02:19,940 You know what I resent? 1224 01:02:19,974 --> 01:02:21,776 I resent the fact that Burger thinks 1225 01:02:21,809 --> 01:02:24,078 he has Rehnquist and Powell in his pocket. 1226 01:02:24,111 --> 01:02:25,880 They're brand new, 1227 01:02:25,913 --> 01:02:27,681 and Burger acts like he owns the court. 1228 01:02:27,715 --> 01:02:30,117 But he has no right to hold this up for those two. 1229 01:02:30,151 --> 01:02:32,553 He wants to make sure the vote goes his way, 1230 01:02:32,586 --> 01:02:34,688 that's why he's demanding a reargument. 1231 01:02:34,722 --> 01:02:36,090 Right. And that will flip the vote 1232 01:02:36,123 --> 01:02:37,725 and we lose five-four. 1233 01:02:37,758 --> 01:02:41,095 If we don't sort this out, fur will fly today. 1234 01:02:56,445 --> 01:02:57,978 You see, in the end, 1235 01:02:58,012 --> 01:03:00,415 it was Justice Stewart who leaked the court's internal vote 1236 01:03:00,449 --> 01:03:02,049 to the Washington Post. 1237 01:03:02,083 --> 01:03:04,553 He wanted to stop the case from being reheard 1238 01:03:04,585 --> 01:03:07,254 because he wanted abortion legalized. 1239 01:03:07,288 --> 01:03:09,123 So, Judge, how's the wife? 1240 01:03:09,156 --> 01:03:11,292 Cut the small talk, Bob. 1241 01:03:11,326 --> 01:03:13,462 Look, I understand your wife was a volunteer 1242 01:03:13,495 --> 01:03:16,130 for Planned Parenthood. Is that why we're here? 1243 01:03:16,163 --> 01:03:17,832 Absolutely not. 1244 01:03:17,865 --> 01:03:20,167 All my decisions have to do with law and the Constitution. 1245 01:03:20,201 --> 01:03:21,702 Now, let's get this over with. 1246 01:03:28,709 --> 01:03:30,644 Are you sure you want to give this to me? 1247 01:03:30,678 --> 01:03:31,946 Burger is gonna hit the roof 1248 01:03:31,979 --> 01:03:34,014 when he sees this on the front page of the Post. 1249 01:03:34,048 --> 01:03:35,983 Yeah, well, he deserves it. 1250 01:03:52,700 --> 01:03:54,935 I wish you hadn't given me this case. 1251 01:03:54,969 --> 01:03:56,471 Have you-have you seen the Post this morning? 1252 01:03:56,505 --> 01:03:58,772 I saw it. 1253 01:03:58,806 --> 01:04:00,575 - I saw it! - Now everyone knows how I voted. 1254 01:04:02,243 --> 01:04:03,878 The media is outrageous. 1255 01:04:03,911 --> 01:04:06,348 Media? There's a leak! 1256 01:04:06,381 --> 01:04:08,583 The appetite for this nonsense is only worse. 1257 01:04:10,217 --> 01:04:11,986 How long we been friends? 1258 01:04:12,019 --> 01:04:13,854 Dayton Bluff Elementary. 1259 01:04:15,890 --> 01:04:17,158 It wasn't you, was it? 1260 01:04:22,330 --> 01:04:23,264 I'm sorry. 1261 01:04:25,099 --> 01:04:26,734 I'm out of sorts. 1262 01:04:26,767 --> 01:04:31,839 My family, my own family, is up in arms about my vote. 1263 01:04:31,872 --> 01:04:32,973 They've been watching television. 1264 01:04:33,007 --> 01:04:35,943 I don't-I don't know what to do, Harry. 1265 01:04:42,850 --> 01:04:46,754 Warren. I question my competency. 1266 01:04:48,523 --> 01:04:49,558 Don't. 1267 01:04:52,927 --> 01:04:55,930 Your decade of counsel with the Mayo Clinic, 1268 01:04:57,365 --> 01:04:59,501 it will be very helpful here. 1269 01:04:59,534 --> 01:05:02,236 I've only been here a year. 1270 01:05:02,269 --> 01:05:05,072 We gotta control this, Harry. 1271 01:05:05,105 --> 01:05:06,441 It's gotten out of hand. 1272 01:05:06,474 --> 01:05:07,775 Do you know what they're calling me? 1273 01:05:09,311 --> 01:05:10,778 Your boy. 1274 01:05:10,811 --> 01:05:16,351 They are calling me your boy, the Minnesota Twin. 1275 01:05:16,384 --> 01:05:19,753 I trust you, Harry, and I need your help. 1276 01:05:19,787 --> 01:05:21,255 I need your support here. 1277 01:05:27,962 --> 01:05:29,964 I'm on the fence. 1278 01:05:29,997 --> 01:05:31,732 Harry, with all this public pressure, 1279 01:05:31,765 --> 01:05:33,067 we've got to get this right. 1280 01:05:33,100 --> 01:05:35,970 We're going to be remembered for this. 1281 01:05:36,003 --> 01:05:37,639 Perhaps this is beyond the authority 1282 01:05:37,672 --> 01:05:39,073 of the Supreme Court. 1283 01:05:41,175 --> 01:05:43,811 We are the law of the land, Harry. 1284 01:05:46,247 --> 01:05:47,915 We are the law of the land. 1285 01:05:53,488 --> 01:05:56,056 Abortion was still illegal in Texas. 1286 01:05:56,090 --> 01:05:59,093 So, every Friday, the flight from Dallas to El Paso 1287 01:05:59,126 --> 01:06:00,294 was booked solid. 1288 01:06:00,328 --> 01:06:01,329 They landed 1289 01:06:01,363 --> 01:06:02,597 and crossed the border. 1290 01:06:02,631 --> 01:06:04,999 It was called the Abortion Flight. 1291 01:06:05,032 --> 01:06:06,568 Planned Parenthood and NARAL 1292 01:06:06,601 --> 01:06:08,670 fundraised at the Playboy Mansion. 1293 01:06:08,703 --> 01:06:10,338 I mean, it's kind of hypocritical 1294 01:06:10,372 --> 01:06:11,640 that we exploited women 1295 01:06:11,673 --> 01:06:13,240 for women's rights, 1296 01:06:13,274 --> 01:06:15,677 but hey, anything for a good cause. 1297 01:06:18,613 --> 01:06:20,114 Larry and I were on a roll. 1298 01:06:20,147 --> 01:06:22,617 We were performing 200 abortions a day, 1299 01:06:22,651 --> 01:06:25,152 which was making my clinic 50 grand. 1300 01:06:25,185 --> 01:06:28,155 Today, that would be like half a million a week. 1301 01:06:37,666 --> 01:06:41,035 And that's how I became a published author. 1302 01:06:41,068 --> 01:06:42,604 That's so far out. 1303 01:06:42,637 --> 01:06:43,871 You know, Larry here changed the laws 1304 01:06:43,904 --> 01:06:46,140 in half the country, singlehandedly. 1305 01:06:46,173 --> 01:06:48,476 Bernie and I own most of the clinics in New York. 1306 01:06:48,510 --> 01:06:50,210 Oh, my god. That's sick. 1307 01:06:50,244 --> 01:06:51,613 And how did you do that? 1308 01:06:51,646 --> 01:06:53,180 We control the media. 1309 01:06:53,213 --> 01:06:55,015 Get real. 1310 01:06:55,049 --> 01:06:56,116 We do. 1311 01:06:56,150 --> 01:06:57,951 They write whatever we tell them. 1312 01:06:57,985 --> 01:07:00,187 This one time, we got the New York Times 1313 01:07:00,220 --> 01:07:01,489 to publish a poll 1314 01:07:01,523 --> 01:07:04,659 on how many doctors were in favor of abortion. 1315 01:07:04,693 --> 01:07:06,795 We said 87% sounded good. 1316 01:07:06,827 --> 01:07:09,497 How many doctors again was that out of, Larry? 1317 01:07:09,531 --> 01:07:11,165 About 40,000, I think. 1318 01:07:11,198 --> 01:07:13,200 Can you believe they printed that? 1319 01:07:13,233 --> 01:07:14,636 And then, we got them to say 1320 01:07:14,669 --> 01:07:18,473 that 60% of Americans favored abortion. 1321 01:07:18,506 --> 01:07:20,841 Why didn't you guys just do a real poll? 1322 01:07:20,874 --> 01:07:23,143 Because if a real poll was taken, 1323 01:07:23,177 --> 01:07:26,914 nowhere near 60% of Americans favored abortion. 1324 01:07:26,947 --> 01:07:30,884 So, we made it up, and the media didn't even question it. 1325 01:07:30,918 --> 01:07:33,655 This is a tactic of the self-fulfilling lie. 1326 01:07:33,688 --> 01:07:37,057 You see, few people care to be in the minority. 1327 01:07:37,091 --> 01:07:38,992 There's nowhere near a half a million women 1328 01:07:39,026 --> 01:07:40,395 - are having back alley abortions. - Yeah. You see, 1329 01:07:40,428 --> 01:07:42,764 if you keep repeating the big lie over and over again, 1330 01:07:42,797 --> 01:07:45,032 it generally convinces the public. 1331 01:07:45,065 --> 01:07:47,369 Well, 10,000 women die from back alley abortions. 1332 01:07:49,103 --> 01:07:50,405 - What? - Larry, wait. 1333 01:07:50,438 --> 01:07:51,840 We made that up, too. 1334 01:07:51,872 --> 01:07:54,007 Yeah, those are my statistics I came up with. 1335 01:07:54,041 --> 01:07:56,378 - Yeah! - You guys lied? 1336 01:07:56,411 --> 01:07:57,612 I wouldn't call it lying. 1337 01:07:57,645 --> 01:07:58,780 Yeah, it was for the greater good. 1338 01:07:58,813 --> 01:08:01,583 Planned Parenthood, they also helped. 1339 01:08:02,817 --> 01:08:04,352 And no one found out? 1340 01:08:04,386 --> 01:08:08,790 Found out? Honey, the media was in on it. 1341 01:08:08,823 --> 01:08:11,793 You see, for example, if you check out Time Magazine, 1342 01:08:11,826 --> 01:08:14,362 we planted four pro-abortion stories 1343 01:08:14,396 --> 01:08:15,463 every year. 1344 01:08:15,497 --> 01:08:19,434 So, 1969, and we have it in 1345 01:08:19,467 --> 01:08:21,235 March, September, two in November. 1346 01:08:21,268 --> 01:08:24,572 In 1970, February, March, April, September, 1347 01:08:24,606 --> 01:08:27,274 in '71, March, May, September, November, 1348 01:08:27,308 --> 01:08:28,309 and so on and so forth. 1349 01:08:28,343 --> 01:08:29,910 We kept doing it. 1350 01:08:29,943 --> 01:08:32,146 We also put pro-abortion stories in TV shows and films. 1351 01:08:32,179 --> 01:08:33,548 Yeah, remember that movie... 1352 01:08:33,581 --> 01:08:35,884 oh, what was it... Cabaret with Liza Minelli? 1353 01:08:35,916 --> 01:08:37,251 Yes. 1354 01:08:37,284 --> 01:08:42,624 Okay, wait! Time Magazine. Really? 1355 01:08:42,657 --> 01:08:44,191 And how did you guys do that? 1356 01:08:45,693 --> 01:08:47,662 We used each other as sources. 1357 01:09:00,809 --> 01:09:02,477 Should we really be doing this on Mother's Day? 1358 01:09:02,510 --> 01:09:04,111 Exactly. 1359 01:09:04,144 --> 01:09:05,045 All right. 1360 01:09:09,784 --> 01:09:11,653 How's the rally going, bubalah? 1361 01:09:12,821 --> 01:09:14,589 Yeah, hi. 1362 01:09:14,622 --> 01:09:16,290 Larry got commissions by referring women 1363 01:09:16,324 --> 01:09:18,860 to abortionists all over the country. 1364 01:09:18,893 --> 01:09:22,296 In Chicago, he even used rabbis and Protestant clergy 1365 01:09:22,330 --> 01:09:24,466 to help find them doctors. 1366 01:09:24,499 --> 01:09:26,200 Is my referral there? 1367 01:09:26,233 --> 01:09:28,369 With me, as we speak. 1368 01:09:29,804 --> 01:09:31,171 Okay, good. 1369 01:09:35,008 --> 01:09:36,344 Yeah, I gotta run. 1370 01:09:37,512 --> 01:09:39,213 Such a good guy, that Larry, 1371 01:09:39,246 --> 01:09:41,649 making sure the two of you are okay. 1372 01:09:42,851 --> 01:09:45,219 I really need to get this done soon. 1373 01:09:45,252 --> 01:09:47,555 I-I recommend going to New York. 1374 01:09:47,589 --> 01:09:51,559 Larry's partner Bernie, he's terrific. 1375 01:09:51,593 --> 01:09:54,161 You don't have anyone in Chicago? 1376 01:09:54,194 --> 01:09:57,332 I can't leave. What do I tell my husband? 1377 01:09:57,365 --> 01:09:58,566 Oh, jeez. 1378 01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,735 Oy vey, you're not the husband? 1379 01:10:01,903 --> 01:10:03,605 You know it's not legal here. 1380 01:10:04,772 --> 01:10:07,575 Please, Rabbi, I-I beg you. 1381 01:10:07,609 --> 01:10:08,810 Don't cry, don't cry. 1382 01:10:08,843 --> 01:10:12,145 It's okay. It's okay. Go see Dr. Ketchum. 1383 01:10:12,179 --> 01:10:14,147 He's not bad. 1384 01:10:14,181 --> 01:10:15,683 And we're not gonna get in trouble? 1385 01:10:15,717 --> 01:10:18,553 Oh, boychik, I take care of everything. 1386 01:10:19,888 --> 01:10:20,788 Okay. 1387 01:10:22,022 --> 01:10:24,057 Thank you. 1388 01:10:24,091 --> 01:10:26,594 Dozens write amicus briefs, and we get four. 1389 01:10:27,862 --> 01:10:29,229 They lied to Rockefeller 1390 01:10:29,263 --> 01:10:30,899 about the numbers on abortion, 1391 01:10:30,932 --> 01:10:33,200 and New York fell just like that. 1392 01:10:33,233 --> 01:10:35,904 When you see a kid out of law school 1393 01:10:35,937 --> 01:10:38,406 get to argue to the highest court in Texas, 1394 01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,842 and you can't get a job promotion. 1395 01:10:40,875 --> 01:10:42,944 I could have become a cause célèbre 1396 01:10:42,977 --> 01:10:45,380 if I had taken it up to court, 1397 01:10:45,413 --> 01:10:48,215 but it's about knowing the price of the game. 1398 01:10:48,248 --> 01:10:50,852 I wouldn't have waited 20 years; I'd have sued them. 1399 01:10:50,885 --> 01:10:54,689 It will be easier for those coming behind me. 1400 01:10:54,722 --> 01:10:57,224 You don't always have to be so strong. 1401 01:10:57,257 --> 01:10:59,126 It's not really fair. 1402 01:10:59,159 --> 01:11:01,194 Life isn't fair. 1403 01:11:01,228 --> 01:11:03,565 It doesn't mean I condone it. 1404 01:11:03,598 --> 01:11:06,266 When given a choice of being kind or right, be kind. 1405 01:11:08,002 --> 01:11:09,136 You can be angry, Mildred. 1406 01:11:11,606 --> 01:11:14,042 You certainly have been a role model. 1407 01:11:16,945 --> 01:11:18,780 Planned Parenthood and Larry Lader 1408 01:11:18,813 --> 01:11:21,482 are running seminars to set up clinics across the country. 1409 01:11:21,516 --> 01:11:23,116 And not to mention Nathanson. 1410 01:11:23,150 --> 01:11:25,787 Oh. Maybe I should pay him a visit, 1411 01:11:25,820 --> 01:11:27,154 doctor to doctor. 1412 01:11:27,187 --> 01:11:28,590 Good luck with that. 1413 01:11:28,623 --> 01:11:30,123 They're making too much money off these clinics. 1414 01:11:30,157 --> 01:11:31,726 Not to mention the illegal ones. 1415 01:11:31,759 --> 01:11:33,328 We have to be willing to get arrested 1416 01:11:33,361 --> 01:11:35,463 for our beliefs just like they are. 1417 01:11:35,496 --> 01:11:37,799 Illegal abortion houses, that's class warfare. 1418 01:11:41,536 --> 01:11:43,771 I'll reach out to the DAs across the country. 1419 01:11:45,039 --> 01:11:45,974 What are you thinking? 1420 01:11:48,275 --> 01:11:49,344 Let's see just how many times 1421 01:11:49,377 --> 01:11:51,111 they're really willing to get arrested. 1422 01:12:01,723 --> 01:12:03,358 Come on. Let's go. 1423 01:12:03,391 --> 01:12:05,093 We had secret abortion clinics 1424 01:12:05,158 --> 01:12:06,761 - across the country, - Get in here. 1425 01:12:06,794 --> 01:12:08,863 for girls who couldn't get to New York. 1426 01:12:08,896 --> 01:12:11,799 Part of our referral network consisted of rabbis 1427 01:12:11,833 --> 01:12:15,268 and Protestant clergy that helped set them up. 1428 01:12:15,302 --> 01:12:17,872 Sometimes, we even used five-star hotels. 1429 01:12:43,031 --> 01:12:44,132 Freeze! 1430 01:12:44,164 --> 01:12:46,166 Hands in the air where I can see them. 1431 01:12:46,199 --> 01:12:47,568 This is the one. Right here, guys, right here. 1432 01:12:48,870 --> 01:12:49,871 Chicago PD! 1433 01:12:49,904 --> 01:12:50,972 Put your gun down. 1434 01:12:51,005 --> 01:12:52,340 Hey, watch it! 1435 01:12:52,373 --> 01:12:54,375 Stop right there! 1436 01:12:54,409 --> 01:12:56,176 Where do you think you're going? 1437 01:12:56,209 --> 01:12:59,212 He thinks he can get out the window. 1438 01:12:59,246 --> 01:13:00,515 Stop what you're doing. 1439 01:13:00,548 --> 01:13:01,516 Can you cuff him, please. 1440 01:13:01,549 --> 01:13:03,017 Hey, stop what you're doing, Pops. 1441 01:13:03,051 --> 01:13:05,720 This is an operating room! You have no authority here! 1442 01:13:10,458 --> 01:13:12,225 Are you okay? 1443 01:13:18,433 --> 01:13:20,300 Oh, my god. 1444 01:13:30,144 --> 01:13:32,580 The rabbis and pastors getting arrested 1445 01:13:32,613 --> 01:13:34,949 brought down one of our biggest referral networks. 1446 01:13:40,421 --> 01:13:41,656 Is everything okay? 1447 01:13:43,256 --> 01:13:45,593 I just hope what we're doing is making women feel safer. 1448 01:13:48,629 --> 01:13:50,398 You should be so proud. 1449 01:13:50,431 --> 01:13:52,533 A young woman is arguing 1450 01:13:52,567 --> 01:13:55,536 in front of the Supreme Court because of you. 1451 01:13:55,570 --> 01:13:56,938 I thought I would have had envy, 1452 01:13:56,971 --> 01:14:02,543 but all I felt after all of it was proud of Sarah, 1453 01:14:02,577 --> 01:14:04,645 and hope this will open the gate for women to come. 1454 01:14:08,248 --> 01:14:10,485 One of our clinics was just busted. 1455 01:14:10,518 --> 01:14:12,220 Ugh. 1456 01:14:12,252 --> 01:14:14,989 Sixteen clergy, four rabbis, all arrested. 1457 01:14:15,022 --> 01:14:16,791 We have to protect these kids. 1458 01:14:16,824 --> 01:14:19,494 We have to make sure they have safe doctors. 1459 01:14:19,527 --> 01:14:22,130 These raids can't be setbacks. 1460 01:14:22,163 --> 01:14:25,767 We have to keep working for abortion on demand. 1461 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,769 It makes us look like we're in it for the money. 1462 01:14:27,802 --> 01:14:28,803 It's just disgraceful. 1463 01:14:28,836 --> 01:14:30,972 No, quit exaggerating, Bernie. 1464 01:14:31,005 --> 01:14:32,406 You know what it's gonna do to me and my family 1465 01:14:32,440 --> 01:14:35,109 - and my reputation? - Oh, this is-this is about you? 1466 01:14:35,143 --> 01:14:37,478 Bernie? Is this about you and the money? 1467 01:14:37,512 --> 01:14:38,613 It's not about me. 1468 01:14:40,014 --> 01:14:41,215 It's about the girls. 1469 01:14:42,617 --> 01:14:43,851 You're not there. 1470 01:14:43,885 --> 01:14:45,653 Yeah, okay. Quit exaggerating, Bernie. 1471 01:14:47,622 --> 01:14:49,557 You don't see all the girls I save. 1472 01:14:59,333 --> 01:15:00,835 I became a physician 1473 01:15:00,868 --> 01:15:03,037 in the tradition that obliges society 1474 01:15:03,070 --> 01:15:05,640 to expect a doctor to save lives, 1475 01:15:05,673 --> 01:15:07,175 not kill them. 1476 01:15:07,208 --> 01:15:09,210 There goes your Hippocratic oath. 1477 01:15:09,243 --> 01:15:12,313 Tell that to Nathanson, Mother. 1478 01:15:12,346 --> 01:15:17,985 Dr. King said, "We cannot win if we're willing to sacrifice 1479 01:15:18,019 --> 01:15:20,188 the futures of our children 1480 01:15:20,221 --> 01:15:22,690 for immediate personal comfort and safety." 1481 01:15:22,723 --> 01:15:24,992 I am not willing to allow 1482 01:15:25,026 --> 01:15:28,563 the concept of expendable human lives 1483 01:15:28,596 --> 01:15:30,998 to turn this land of ours 1484 01:15:31,032 --> 01:15:34,402 into just another exclusive reservation, 1485 01:15:34,435 --> 01:15:35,803 where only the planned, 1486 01:15:35,837 --> 01:15:38,039 the privileged, and the perfect 1487 01:15:38,072 --> 01:15:39,507 have the right to live. 1488 01:15:39,540 --> 01:15:41,042 my saying this to you, 1489 01:15:41,075 --> 01:15:42,510 we're free. 1490 01:15:42,543 --> 01:15:44,679 We finally have the right to decide what we can do 1491 01:15:44,712 --> 01:15:46,013 with our own body. 1492 01:15:46,047 --> 01:15:47,348 All right. Then, will you please get yours 1493 01:15:47,381 --> 01:15:48,382 into the kitchen. 1494 01:15:50,051 --> 01:15:52,720 - You're just scared. - I am not scared! 1495 01:15:52,753 --> 01:15:55,723 You are, and it's as simple as gong to the dentist. 1496 01:15:57,391 --> 01:16:00,394 As simple as going to the dentist? 1497 01:16:00,428 --> 01:16:06,067 Oh. I scream, they scream louder. 1498 01:16:06,100 --> 01:16:09,338 We raise money, they raise more. 1499 01:16:09,370 --> 01:16:11,572 They have Hollywood on their side. 1500 01:16:11,606 --> 01:16:17,411 Dr. Nathanson, I heard he gave them $10,000 to air that. 1501 01:16:19,747 --> 01:16:23,284 Lewis Powell is from Virginia. 1502 01:16:23,318 --> 01:16:25,686 But like another great Virginian, 1503 01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:30,224 Chief Justice Marshall, Lewis Powell is recognized 1504 01:16:30,258 --> 01:16:32,293 by his legal colleagues throughout the nation 1505 01:16:32,327 --> 01:16:35,129 as being a man who represents not just 1506 01:16:35,162 --> 01:16:37,732 Virginia and the South. 1507 01:16:37,765 --> 01:16:41,936 He is first and foremost, a very great American. 1508 01:16:44,672 --> 01:16:46,607 William Rehnquist 1509 01:16:46,641 --> 01:16:49,076 has been outstanding in every intellectual endeavor 1510 01:16:49,110 --> 01:16:51,112 he has undertaken. 1511 01:16:51,145 --> 01:16:53,581 He was graduated from Stanford University, 1512 01:16:53,614 --> 01:16:56,217 Phi Beta Kappa, 1948. 1513 01:16:56,250 --> 01:16:57,251 He graduated 1514 01:16:57,285 --> 01:16:59,153 first in his class 1515 01:16:59,186 --> 01:17:01,589 from the Stanford University Law School in 1942. 1516 01:17:05,259 --> 01:17:06,527 You missed the more important news! 1517 01:17:07,695 --> 01:17:08,829 We got the majority. 1518 01:17:10,131 --> 01:17:11,899 We're gonna win. 1519 01:17:11,933 --> 01:17:13,901 The two new justices were conservatives. 1520 01:17:13,935 --> 01:17:15,636 So, when we go back into court, 1521 01:17:15,670 --> 01:17:18,606 the vote will swing their way five to four. 1522 01:17:18,639 --> 01:17:20,141 We're gonna lose. 1523 01:17:21,642 --> 01:17:22,877 I wouldn't count on that. 1524 01:17:24,545 --> 01:17:27,281 We still have a lot of work to do. 1525 01:17:27,316 --> 01:17:32,586 I've tried Nathanson's service. He won't return my calls. 1526 01:17:32,620 --> 01:17:35,623 Have you tried heading over to Planned Parenthood? 1527 01:17:35,656 --> 01:17:38,092 I'm not going there to get lynched. 1528 01:17:38,125 --> 01:17:39,794 I'll just head over to the hospital. 1529 01:17:40,895 --> 01:17:42,997 Are you going to go after the clergy? 1530 01:17:43,030 --> 01:17:45,099 I'm gonna go with the industry. 1531 01:17:45,132 --> 01:17:47,868 Robert, no one sees the industry. 1532 01:17:47,902 --> 01:17:49,036 It's invisible. 1533 01:17:49,070 --> 01:17:51,306 The cause is hopeless in secular terms. 1534 01:17:51,340 --> 01:17:52,374 The effort is only worth it 1535 01:17:52,407 --> 01:17:54,008 if it's part of a larger enterprise: 1536 01:17:54,041 --> 01:17:55,776 the reconversion of this nation. 1537 01:17:55,810 --> 01:17:56,944 To what? 1538 01:17:56,978 --> 01:17:59,381 Faith in God, respect for His law. 1539 01:17:59,414 --> 01:18:00,815 That law being? 1540 01:18:00,848 --> 01:18:03,718 Human law, which cannot tolerate the intentional killing 1541 01:18:03,751 --> 01:18:05,454 of innocent human beings. 1542 01:18:05,486 --> 01:18:07,054 Yeah, but the separation of church and state 1543 01:18:07,088 --> 01:18:08,357 is in the Constitution. 1544 01:18:08,390 --> 01:18:10,291 That's a common misconception. 1545 01:18:10,325 --> 01:18:11,959 The Constitution provides freedom of religion, 1546 01:18:11,993 --> 01:18:13,160 not separation. 1547 01:18:14,495 --> 01:18:16,530 Our laws are based in God's principle, 1548 01:18:16,564 --> 01:18:18,065 "Thou shalt not kill." 1549 01:18:18,099 --> 01:18:21,802 Ellen, you did a great job organizing this. 1550 01:18:21,836 --> 01:18:22,703 Thank you. 1551 01:18:26,207 --> 01:18:29,043 The Ninth Amendment isn't some bottomless pit of rights 1552 01:18:29,076 --> 01:18:32,813 that we can abuse anytime we find a case confuses us. 1553 01:18:32,847 --> 01:18:34,515 What part of the Constitution 1554 01:18:34,548 --> 01:18:38,919 says that a woman does not have a right to an abortion? 1555 01:18:38,953 --> 01:18:42,056 Freedom to choose - too vague. Freedom to choose what? 1556 01:18:42,089 --> 01:18:43,557 Prove medically and scientifically 1557 01:18:43,591 --> 01:18:46,594 that a new fetus is a-a someone. 1558 01:18:46,627 --> 01:18:49,196 Even the doctors say there is human life. 1559 01:18:49,230 --> 01:18:51,565 Human life from the moment of conception, 1560 01:18:51,599 --> 01:18:53,267 in the embryonic state. 1561 01:18:53,300 --> 01:18:56,338 Yeah, look. You're new to the court, 1562 01:18:56,371 --> 01:18:59,374 and Mrs. Weddington presents a thought-out argument 1563 01:18:59,408 --> 01:19:01,443 for women's rights. 1564 01:19:01,476 --> 01:19:03,544 You've been watching too much TV. 1565 01:19:03,577 --> 01:19:06,714 This case has nothing to do with women's rights. 1566 01:19:06,747 --> 01:19:08,115 Does a woman, a mother, 1567 01:19:08,149 --> 01:19:12,586 have the right to kill her own child? 1568 01:19:12,620 --> 01:19:14,423 I'll argue that case separately. 1569 01:19:14,456 --> 01:19:16,425 It's not her child, just yet. 1570 01:19:16,458 --> 01:19:17,792 Whose child is it? 1571 01:19:17,825 --> 01:19:19,394 The mother's? Father's? The state's? 1572 01:19:20,928 --> 01:19:23,532 You've only just been appointed, 1573 01:19:23,564 --> 01:19:26,233 and already you're playing into the hands of public opinion. 1574 01:19:27,668 --> 01:19:30,938 Byron, get off your high horse 1575 01:19:30,971 --> 01:19:33,341 and make a constitutional decision. 1576 01:19:35,776 --> 01:19:38,245 I am making a constitutional decision. 1577 01:19:40,482 --> 01:19:42,317 She stated on several occasions 1578 01:19:42,350 --> 01:19:44,386 that they are dismissing the Hippocratic oath, 1579 01:19:44,419 --> 01:19:45,820 the very oath 1580 01:19:47,588 --> 01:19:50,758 that says doctors need to protect life. 1581 01:19:50,791 --> 01:19:53,794 It also states very clearly 1582 01:19:53,828 --> 01:19:57,932 that a woman should not be given an abortive remedy. 1583 01:19:57,965 --> 01:20:00,134 That's what you're basing your decision on, 1584 01:20:00,167 --> 01:20:01,268 the Hippocratic oath. 1585 01:20:02,837 --> 01:20:04,271 It's not 400 B.C. 1586 01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,943 The 1948 Declaration of Geneva 1587 01:20:08,976 --> 01:20:13,080 as well as the International Code of Medical Ethics 1588 01:20:13,114 --> 01:20:19,687 both clearly state that doctors must protect life. 1589 01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:22,123 From the point of conception. 1590 01:20:22,156 --> 01:20:25,126 May I remind you, sir, 1591 01:20:25,159 --> 01:20:27,928 you're on the United States Supreme Court, 1592 01:20:27,962 --> 01:20:30,164 not on an international medical board. 1593 01:20:32,032 --> 01:20:36,471 We have an opportunity here to make things right. 1594 01:20:36,505 --> 01:20:40,040 We have an opportunity here to get things right. 1595 01:20:40,074 --> 01:20:42,710 I fear if we vote in favor of 1596 01:20:42,743 --> 01:20:44,613 removing the rights of the fetus, 1597 01:20:44,645 --> 01:20:48,149 that we are simply blowing this whole thing. 1598 01:20:48,182 --> 01:20:52,119 Hm-mm. Roe isn't about right or wrong. 1599 01:20:52,153 --> 01:20:54,121 It's about what's stated in the law. 1600 01:20:54,155 --> 01:20:59,727 All due respect, Justice, if you don't realize that, 1601 01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:03,864 you shouldn't be on the court. Hm? 1602 01:21:03,898 --> 01:21:07,835 Church and state are separate for a reason. 1603 01:21:07,868 --> 01:21:09,703 It's God's duty to forgive. 1604 01:21:12,039 --> 01:21:15,343 It's ours to rule the law. 1605 01:21:15,377 --> 01:21:22,350 This has nothing whatsoever to do with church and state. 1606 01:21:22,384 --> 01:21:25,052 This is strictly a constitutional matter, 1607 01:21:26,754 --> 01:21:29,457 life and liberty. 1608 01:21:31,091 --> 01:21:32,293 Or have you forgotten that? 1609 01:21:36,096 --> 01:21:37,365 Justice? 1610 01:21:42,537 --> 01:21:44,673 Wade got Robert Flowers to argue. 1611 01:21:44,705 --> 01:21:46,474 He was handpicked by the Texas attorney general. 1612 01:21:48,142 --> 01:21:49,611 How you boys and gals doing? 1613 01:21:51,111 --> 01:21:54,081 Have you seen how the whole media supports Weddington? 1614 01:21:54,114 --> 01:21:56,083 Well, we better get to work then. 1615 01:21:56,116 --> 01:21:59,119 I created a moot court based on Griswald and Vuitch. 1616 01:21:59,153 --> 01:22:01,922 We can set up and start to fire questions. 1617 01:22:01,956 --> 01:22:03,358 My boys don't need schooling 1618 01:22:03,391 --> 01:22:06,293 by a bunch of kids from New York City. 1619 01:22:06,328 --> 01:22:07,294 It's going to be you and your boys 1620 01:22:07,329 --> 01:22:08,697 versus the whole country. 1621 01:22:08,729 --> 01:22:11,700 Well, don't tell me, I know the law! 1622 01:22:11,732 --> 01:22:13,767 I know you do. I'm worried. 1623 01:22:15,604 --> 01:22:17,071 "The greatest act of faith is when a man understands 1624 01:22:17,104 --> 01:22:18,640 that he is not God." 1625 01:22:18,673 --> 01:22:20,609 Oliver Wendell Holmes. 1626 01:22:20,642 --> 01:22:22,910 It might be a good idea, Henry. 1627 01:22:22,943 --> 01:22:24,011 I'm listening. 1628 01:22:26,514 --> 01:22:27,649 What else you got for us, Bob? 1629 01:22:29,250 --> 01:22:31,218 I filed with the court to become guardian ad litem 1630 01:22:31,252 --> 01:22:33,087 to all the unborn children in the State of New York. 1631 01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,323 How'd you manage that? 1632 01:22:35,357 --> 01:22:36,790 The unborn has rights in the area of the law 1633 01:22:36,824 --> 01:22:38,627 from probate to criminal. 1634 01:22:38,660 --> 01:22:40,995 In the Constitution, a person cannot be deprived due process 1635 01:22:41,028 --> 01:22:42,997 or denied equal protection. 1636 01:22:43,030 --> 01:22:44,898 - Okay. - So, the unborn have a right 1637 01:22:44,932 --> 01:22:47,502 to an attorney just like everybody else in America? 1638 01:22:49,103 --> 01:22:50,572 It's brilliant! 1639 01:22:50,605 --> 01:22:52,574 Larry, you convinced me to open a clinic, 1640 01:22:52,607 --> 01:22:54,643 abortion is illegal again in New York. 1641 01:22:54,676 --> 01:22:56,277 What are you talking about? 1642 01:22:56,311 --> 01:22:58,779 I'm gonna lose everything to that guardian of the unborn. 1643 01:22:58,812 --> 01:22:59,947 I wouldn't worry about it. 1644 01:22:59,980 --> 01:23:00,914 Guardian of the unborn, 1645 01:23:00,948 --> 01:23:02,450 it sounds like a superhero. 1646 01:23:02,484 --> 01:23:03,418 How can the Catholics 1647 01:23:03,451 --> 01:23:05,286 use the court to make a law? 1648 01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:07,589 Well, isn't that what we're going to do? 1649 01:23:07,622 --> 01:23:09,290 You boys are only in favor of abortion 1650 01:23:09,324 --> 01:23:12,059 because it's cheaper than child support. 1651 01:23:14,329 --> 01:23:15,630 Equality! 1652 01:23:15,664 --> 01:23:16,765 Let's not forget, 1653 01:23:16,797 --> 01:23:18,165 this is also about population control. 1654 01:23:18,198 --> 01:23:20,167 This is about women's rights. 1655 01:23:21,469 --> 01:23:24,138 You're still in love with Margaret Sanger! 1656 01:23:24,171 --> 01:23:25,473 What are you talking about? 1657 01:23:25,507 --> 01:23:28,976 She opposed abortion. I read her autobiography. 1658 01:23:29,009 --> 01:23:31,379 Oh, the founder of Planned Parenthood opposed abortion? 1659 01:23:31,413 --> 01:23:32,946 She'd be for it today. 1660 01:23:32,980 --> 01:23:35,816 She said it was a disgrace to our civilization. 1661 01:23:35,849 --> 01:23:38,118 Quote, "There should be no killing of babies in the womb," 1662 01:23:38,152 --> 01:23:39,853 end quote. 1663 01:23:39,887 --> 01:23:41,356 I founded this movement. 1664 01:23:41,389 --> 01:23:43,057 - This is about you? - Yeah! 1665 01:23:43,090 --> 01:23:45,527 This is about the State of Larry Lader? 1666 01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:47,529 Look around you. 1667 01:23:47,562 --> 01:23:50,465 Who do you think is winning your dirty little secret war? 1668 01:23:50,498 --> 01:23:53,735 I am looking. Look what I've created. 1669 01:23:53,768 --> 01:23:55,035 Planned Parenthood and half the doctors 1670 01:23:55,069 --> 01:23:56,504 pay you referral fees. 1671 01:23:56,538 --> 01:23:59,374 And you have the women of the world to thank for that! 1672 01:24:00,675 --> 01:24:02,276 And how much you getting from your clinic, Doc? 1673 01:24:05,112 --> 01:24:06,381 Equality! 1674 01:24:17,625 --> 01:24:18,626 You haven't touched your food. 1675 01:24:20,127 --> 01:24:21,061 Hm? 1676 01:24:22,530 --> 01:24:27,234 Oh, I'm sorry. It's this damn case. 1677 01:24:27,267 --> 01:24:29,437 Well, which way are you leaning towards, Dad? 1678 01:24:29,471 --> 01:24:31,740 I'm not gonna get into any of that. 1679 01:24:31,773 --> 01:24:33,073 Good try. 1680 01:24:33,107 --> 01:24:34,942 Sally's volunteering at Planned Parenthood. 1681 01:24:34,975 --> 01:24:36,845 Stop changing the subject. 1682 01:24:36,877 --> 01:24:39,781 Oh, Planned Parenthood, that's- that's great, sweetheart. 1683 01:24:39,814 --> 01:24:41,516 Now, that's the second justice 1684 01:24:41,549 --> 01:24:44,586 with a family member working for Planned Parenthood. 1685 01:24:44,619 --> 01:24:48,390 First Stewart's wife, and now Blackmun's daughter. 1686 01:24:48,423 --> 01:24:49,557 Hm. 1687 01:24:49,591 --> 01:24:51,459 You know, it's not only about abortion. 1688 01:24:52,627 --> 01:24:53,795 Did you see 20,000 women 1689 01:24:53,828 --> 01:24:55,563 marching for equality in New York? 1690 01:24:57,064 --> 01:24:58,867 Twenty thousand, is that right? 1691 01:24:58,899 --> 01:25:00,769 It's about time we had our own rights. 1692 01:25:03,838 --> 01:25:06,541 Do you want your daughter to be able to become justice one day? 1693 01:25:06,574 --> 01:25:07,675 Why... 1694 01:25:09,143 --> 01:25:11,044 so you're saying 1695 01:25:11,078 --> 01:25:14,449 if I vote the other way, I'm voting against women? 1696 01:25:14,482 --> 01:25:17,050 Yes, you are. 1697 01:25:17,084 --> 01:25:20,254 Just listen to her, Dad. Come on, it's important. 1698 01:25:20,287 --> 01:25:21,656 I'm with the girls. 1699 01:25:24,325 --> 01:25:25,693 Make us proud, Harry. 1700 01:25:34,968 --> 01:25:36,103 I know why you gave me this 1701 01:25:36,136 --> 01:25:38,473 but you should've let Douglas write it. 1702 01:25:38,506 --> 01:25:41,175 After my vote hit the media, 1703 01:25:41,208 --> 01:25:43,812 my family almost fell apart over it. 1704 01:25:43,845 --> 01:25:46,079 So, you might be changing your vote 1705 01:25:46,113 --> 01:25:49,049 because your family found out? Or was it the media? 1706 01:25:52,554 --> 01:25:53,488 Warren. 1707 01:25:57,692 --> 01:25:59,960 You wanted to talk. 1708 01:25:59,993 --> 01:26:00,994 Yes, I did. 1709 01:26:02,229 --> 01:26:04,031 I wanna see where you stand, Harry. 1710 01:26:04,064 --> 01:26:06,768 I'm hoping we're on the same page. 1711 01:26:06,801 --> 01:26:08,268 Byron, I don't know what page I'm on. 1712 01:26:08,302 --> 01:26:10,672 I'm not even sure we're reading from the same book. 1713 01:26:10,705 --> 01:26:14,375 I just-I'm trying to vote along the lines of the Constitution. 1714 01:26:14,409 --> 01:26:16,511 Does the Bill of Rights allow a woman 1715 01:26:16,544 --> 01:26:18,847 to kill her unborn child? 1716 01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:20,180 It's a very simple question. 1717 01:26:20,214 --> 01:26:21,549 No, it's not a simple question. 1718 01:26:21,583 --> 01:26:24,719 The question is, when does a fetus become a life? 1719 01:26:24,752 --> 01:26:26,955 At the point of conception, Harry. When else? 1720 01:26:26,987 --> 01:26:29,958 Well, that hasn't been determined yet, has it? 1721 01:26:29,990 --> 01:26:33,328 And if it had, we wouldn't be having this conflict 1722 01:26:33,361 --> 01:26:34,729 in our conversation. 1723 01:26:34,762 --> 01:26:36,698 Sure, Bill. Why don't you just sit down and join us. 1724 01:26:36,731 --> 01:26:39,066 What we need to discuss is the right to privacy. 1725 01:26:39,099 --> 01:26:40,702 What? 1726 01:26:40,735 --> 01:26:42,737 Listen, our job is to interpret the Constitution. 1727 01:26:42,770 --> 01:26:44,539 Our job is not to create law. 1728 01:26:44,572 --> 01:26:46,975 If you wanna make a new law, you take it up with Congress. 1729 01:26:47,007 --> 01:26:49,511 We already ruled on that. Griswold v. Connecticut. 1730 01:26:49,544 --> 01:26:50,912 - Unrelated. - Absolutely. 1731 01:26:50,945 --> 01:26:52,480 - Unrelated. - Absolutely. 1732 01:26:52,514 --> 01:26:53,748 He-he's right. 1733 01:26:53,781 --> 01:26:55,850 Right to privacy between a patient and a doctor. 1734 01:26:57,385 --> 01:27:00,522 At minimum, Byron, it's something I think 1735 01:27:00,555 --> 01:27:03,090 we should at least consider. 1736 01:27:03,123 --> 01:27:05,326 You take this into consideration, Harry, 1737 01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:08,429 you take the risk of embarrassing this court 1738 01:27:08,463 --> 01:27:10,063 and putting it to a level it has not been 1739 01:27:10,097 --> 01:27:11,733 - since the Dred Scott decision. - Oh, come on. 1740 01:27:11,766 --> 01:27:13,935 Come on, Bill. So, you wanna enslave women 1741 01:27:13,968 --> 01:27:15,336 by denying them their right to privacy. 1742 01:27:15,370 --> 01:27:16,437 Is that it, Byron? 1743 01:27:16,471 --> 01:27:17,438 That is not what I said. 1744 01:27:17,472 --> 01:27:18,740 Well, that's what you're implying. 1745 01:27:18,773 --> 01:27:19,941 No, it is not what I'm implying. 1746 01:27:19,974 --> 01:27:21,943 Wait, guys, guys. Stop being so dramatic. 1747 01:27:21,976 --> 01:27:24,512 And you, you're starting to sound like one of Nixon's boys. 1748 01:27:24,546 --> 01:27:27,247 Don't forget it was JFK that appointed you. 1749 01:27:27,281 --> 01:27:28,449 Yes, and it was Kennedy that thought 1750 01:27:28,483 --> 01:27:31,419 abortion was repugnant to all Americans. 1751 01:27:38,459 --> 01:27:39,727 Here we go again, boys. 1752 01:27:48,268 --> 01:27:50,304 Certainly, we cannot say that there is 1753 01:27:50,338 --> 01:27:55,577 in the Constitution so stated the right to an abortion. 1754 01:27:55,610 --> 01:27:58,379 But neither is there stated the right to travel 1755 01:27:58,413 --> 01:28:01,716 or some other basic rights that this court has held 1756 01:28:01,749 --> 01:28:05,085 are under the United States Constitution. 1757 01:28:05,118 --> 01:28:06,988 I suppose that one of the most important factors 1758 01:28:07,021 --> 01:28:09,791 to consider is, what rights, if any, 1759 01:28:09,824 --> 01:28:11,726 does the unborn fetus have. 1760 01:28:11,759 --> 01:28:12,961 That is correct. 1761 01:28:12,994 --> 01:28:14,161 I have a question. 1762 01:28:14,194 --> 01:28:16,464 Is it critical to your case that the fetus 1763 01:28:16,497 --> 01:28:20,501 not be considered a person under the due process clause? 1764 01:28:20,535 --> 01:28:22,102 It seems to me that it is critical 1765 01:28:22,135 --> 01:28:25,306 that we prove that this is a fundamental interest 1766 01:28:25,340 --> 01:28:27,240 on behalf of women. 1767 01:28:27,274 --> 01:28:29,978 That it is a constitutional right, second... 1768 01:28:30,011 --> 01:28:35,115 Well, would you lose your case if the fetus were a person? 1769 01:28:35,148 --> 01:28:37,150 Then you would have a balancing of interests. 1770 01:28:38,953 --> 01:28:40,455 You're already going to be balancing 1771 01:28:40,488 --> 01:28:42,289 the interest of the mother 1772 01:28:42,323 --> 01:28:45,192 against the interest of the fetus. 1773 01:28:45,225 --> 01:28:46,928 That is correct, Your Honor. 1774 01:28:46,961 --> 01:28:49,097 If it were established that the unborn fetus 1775 01:28:49,129 --> 01:28:51,164 is protected under the Constitution, 1776 01:28:51,198 --> 01:28:53,668 you would have an impossible case, Mrs. Weddington. 1777 01:28:55,470 --> 01:28:57,839 I would have a very difficult case. 1778 01:29:01,509 --> 01:29:02,810 It's impossible for me to trace, 1779 01:29:02,844 --> 01:29:04,345 within my allocated time, 1780 01:29:04,379 --> 01:29:08,516 the development of a fetus from the date of its conception 1781 01:29:08,549 --> 01:29:10,183 to the date of its birth. 1782 01:29:10,217 --> 01:29:12,219 But it's the position of the State of Texas 1783 01:29:12,252 --> 01:29:13,655 that upon conception, 1784 01:29:13,688 --> 01:29:17,058 we have a human being. 1785 01:29:17,091 --> 01:29:19,661 A person with the concept 1786 01:29:19,694 --> 01:29:22,229 of the Constitution of the United States 1787 01:29:22,262 --> 01:29:24,197 and that of Texas as well. 1788 01:29:24,231 --> 01:29:27,702 Any person born or naturalized in the United States hasn't. 1789 01:29:29,169 --> 01:29:32,239 No, that's not the definition of a person, 1790 01:29:32,272 --> 01:29:33,841 that's the definition of a citizen. 1791 01:29:33,875 --> 01:29:34,909 It's so fundamental 1792 01:29:34,942 --> 01:29:36,577 that the framers of the Constitution 1793 01:29:36,611 --> 01:29:39,647 had not even set out to define it. 1794 01:29:39,681 --> 01:29:43,818 And even Blackstone was quoted in 1765, 1795 01:29:43,851 --> 01:29:47,155 "This right is inherent in every individual 1796 01:29:47,187 --> 01:29:50,758 and exists even before the child is born." 1797 01:29:50,792 --> 01:29:53,226 Is it not true 1798 01:29:53,260 --> 01:29:57,432 or is it that the, medical profession itself 1799 01:29:57,465 --> 01:30:00,768 is not in agreement as to when life begins? 1800 01:30:00,802 --> 01:30:03,871 Medically speaking, we would say that from the chromosomes, 1801 01:30:03,905 --> 01:30:06,708 every potential of anybody here in this room 1802 01:30:06,741 --> 01:30:09,209 is present at the moment of conception. 1803 01:30:09,242 --> 01:30:12,880 Right. So, what you're speaking about is a potential life. 1804 01:30:12,914 --> 01:30:14,082 Yes, sir. 1805 01:30:14,115 --> 01:30:17,351 With which everyone can agree on. 1806 01:30:17,385 --> 01:30:18,152 Just one moment. 1807 01:30:20,488 --> 01:30:25,359 If you're correct that the fetus is a person, 1808 01:30:25,393 --> 01:30:28,463 then I suppose the state would have a great trouble 1809 01:30:28,496 --> 01:30:31,466 permitting an abortion, wouldn't it? 1810 01:30:31,499 --> 01:30:35,403 This court has been diligent 1811 01:30:35,436 --> 01:30:39,874 in protecting the rights of minorities. 1812 01:30:39,907 --> 01:30:48,248 And gentlemen, we say this is a minority, 1813 01:30:50,318 --> 01:30:51,953 a silent minority, 1814 01:30:54,522 --> 01:30:59,093 the true silent minority. 1815 01:31:03,698 --> 01:31:06,033 Who is speaking for these children? 1816 01:31:09,036 --> 01:31:12,874 Who is counsel for these children? 1817 01:31:14,876 --> 01:31:17,345 These unborn children, 1818 01:31:20,882 --> 01:31:23,851 whose lives are being taken. 1819 01:31:28,189 --> 01:31:30,057 Where is the safeguard 1820 01:31:32,193 --> 01:31:35,363 of a trial by jury? 1821 01:31:40,701 --> 01:31:42,603 For Roe? 1822 01:31:42,637 --> 01:31:45,339 From the CBS News headquarters in New York, 1823 01:31:45,373 --> 01:31:47,708 this is the CBS Evening News 1824 01:31:47,742 --> 01:31:51,212 with Walter Cronkite and Eric Sevareid in New York, 1825 01:31:51,245 --> 01:31:53,147 George Hermann in Washington, 1826 01:31:53,181 --> 01:31:57,018 Leslie Stahl in Washington, Fred P. Graham in Atlanta, 1827 01:31:57,051 --> 01:32:00,688 Peter Calisher in Paris, Tom Fenton in Paris, 1828 01:32:00,721 --> 01:32:02,857 Robert Schakne in Des Moines. 1829 01:32:02,890 --> 01:32:06,360 And tonight, a CBS Evening News special report, 1830 01:32:06,394 --> 01:32:08,229 "The Energy Crisis." 1831 01:32:27,915 --> 01:32:28,816 Good evening. 1832 01:32:28,850 --> 01:32:30,151 In a landmark ruling, 1833 01:32:30,184 --> 01:32:33,688 the Supreme Court today legalized abortions. 1834 01:32:33,721 --> 01:32:35,823 The majority in cases for Texas and Georgia 1835 01:32:35,857 --> 01:32:38,226 said that the decision to end a pregnancy 1836 01:32:38,259 --> 01:32:40,995 during the first three months belongs to the woman 1837 01:32:41,028 --> 01:32:42,964 and her doctor, not the government. 1838 01:32:52,106 --> 01:32:55,409 The Roe decision allows a woman to have an abortion at any time, 1839 01:32:55,443 --> 01:32:57,445 not just the first three months. 1840 01:32:57,478 --> 01:32:58,946 Cronkite and the media lied about that. 1841 01:33:00,982 --> 01:33:03,784 But they said it doesn't have the same rights as a person. 1842 01:33:03,818 --> 01:33:06,187 Let me ask you, if you found out today 1843 01:33:06,220 --> 01:33:08,589 that you were pregnant and I killed you, 1844 01:33:08,623 --> 01:33:11,058 should I go to jail for murdering one person or two? 1845 01:33:12,426 --> 01:33:13,461 Uh... 1846 01:33:15,096 --> 01:33:18,566 Most states would consider it a double homicide, 1847 01:33:18,599 --> 01:33:21,235 hence considering the unborn a person. 1848 01:33:22,803 --> 01:33:25,806 With that logic, why isn't abortion considered homicide? 1849 01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:27,875 The Supreme Court allowed the Sierra Club 1850 01:33:27,909 --> 01:33:29,311 to sue the Walt Disney Mineral Park 1851 01:33:29,344 --> 01:33:31,579 on behalf of inanimate objects. 1852 01:33:31,612 --> 01:33:33,748 Justice Douglas argued 1853 01:33:33,781 --> 01:33:36,250 that trees should be granted personhood, 1854 01:33:36,284 --> 01:33:39,487 that rivers, lakes, and even pupfish have rights. 1855 01:33:43,591 --> 01:33:45,327 Somebody read me the constitutional amendment 1856 01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:48,330 that states that we have the right to kill an unborn child. 1857 01:33:48,363 --> 01:33:49,463 Sir, 1858 01:33:49,497 --> 01:33:51,866 it was just voted seven to two. 1859 01:33:53,434 --> 01:33:54,969 The justices replaced the framers' choices 1860 01:33:55,002 --> 01:33:56,971 for personal predilections. 1861 01:33:58,539 --> 01:34:00,508 But we have a right to privacy. 1862 01:34:01,976 --> 01:34:03,144 Where in the Constitution does it state 1863 01:34:03,177 --> 01:34:04,145 that we have that right? 1864 01:34:08,716 --> 01:34:11,118 It doesn't, and even if we did, 1865 01:34:11,152 --> 01:34:13,154 privacy is not an absolute right, 1866 01:34:13,187 --> 01:34:16,190 so it can always be governed by other rights. 1867 01:34:16,223 --> 01:34:19,794 But the right to choose is more important than a fetus. 1868 01:34:19,827 --> 01:34:21,595 Why would you say that? 1869 01:34:21,629 --> 01:34:23,864 A fetus is not a person, and I am. 1870 01:34:26,901 --> 01:34:28,469 So, what does a fetus become? 1871 01:34:32,573 --> 01:34:34,842 A fetus has the DNA of a person. 1872 01:34:34,875 --> 01:34:36,510 It's created by people. 1873 01:34:36,544 --> 01:34:40,982 Left to nature, that fetus becomes a person. 1874 01:34:42,583 --> 01:34:44,386 Dr. Taylor, call the operator, please. 1875 01:34:44,419 --> 01:34:46,355 Dr. Taylor, call the operator. 1876 01:34:47,922 --> 01:34:49,256 Dr. Nathanson? 1877 01:34:50,825 --> 01:34:52,159 I'm sorry. Can I help you? 1878 01:34:52,193 --> 01:34:54,161 A butchery. 1879 01:34:54,195 --> 01:34:56,197 Excuse me? 1880 01:34:56,230 --> 01:34:59,500 You know that even a safe abortion 1881 01:34:59,533 --> 01:35:02,203 can make a woman sterile. 1882 01:35:02,236 --> 01:35:03,405 Mildred Jefferson, right? 1883 01:35:03,438 --> 01:35:06,173 Dr. Mildred Jefferson. 1884 01:35:06,207 --> 01:35:07,742 Are you lost? 1885 01:35:07,775 --> 01:35:08,809 Yes. 1886 01:35:08,843 --> 01:35:11,679 Yes. Actually, I am. Very. 1887 01:35:13,180 --> 01:35:15,916 How do you do what you do, and live in good conscience? 1888 01:35:15,950 --> 01:35:17,051 I have given abortions 1889 01:35:17,084 --> 01:35:18,420 to my friends, 1890 01:35:18,453 --> 01:35:20,921 my colleagues, even my teachers. 1891 01:35:20,955 --> 01:35:22,923 I've never had a shred of self-doubt. 1892 01:35:22,957 --> 01:35:25,059 And I've never wavered. 1893 01:35:25,092 --> 01:35:27,061 So, you feel nothing? 1894 01:35:27,094 --> 01:35:31,032 Just a sense of accomplishment and pride of expertise. 1895 01:35:31,065 --> 01:35:32,401 You see. 1896 01:35:34,135 --> 01:35:39,006 When my girlfriend got pregnant and I couldn't afford to have 1897 01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:43,077 a child, I not only demanded 1898 01:35:43,110 --> 01:35:47,416 that she terminate the pregnancy but I also informed her, 1899 01:35:47,449 --> 01:35:50,851 since I was the most skilled practitioner of the art, 1900 01:35:50,885 --> 01:35:53,754 I myself would do the abortion. 1901 01:35:53,788 --> 01:35:55,256 And I did. 1902 01:35:58,926 --> 01:36:00,661 Are you sure you wanna do this? 1903 01:36:08,302 --> 01:36:09,471 Doctor... 1904 01:36:09,504 --> 01:36:11,972 If you don't wanna be here, you can leave. 1905 01:36:34,628 --> 01:36:36,331 On your own child? 1906 01:36:48,676 --> 01:36:50,345 I mean, why do you give life 1907 01:36:50,378 --> 01:36:53,080 to those with no future? 1908 01:36:53,114 --> 01:36:56,617 Aren't you tired of creating new souls 1909 01:36:56,650 --> 01:36:59,454 that end up with no purpose? 1910 01:36:59,488 --> 01:37:02,491 I mean, you must be bored, right? 1911 01:37:02,524 --> 01:37:03,492 Or are you just like 1912 01:37:03,525 --> 01:37:04,692 playing games? 1913 01:37:05,860 --> 01:37:07,661 I've killed babies 1914 01:37:07,695 --> 01:37:09,997 for the greater good. 1915 01:37:10,030 --> 01:37:13,368 I've killed babies in the name of saving women. 1916 01:37:15,202 --> 01:37:18,706 And I've killed babies because they were unwanted. 1917 01:37:19,974 --> 01:37:21,309 You're a liar! 1918 01:37:21,343 --> 01:37:24,011 You did this, you led me down this path. 1919 01:37:24,044 --> 01:37:25,347 You didn't want them. 1920 01:37:26,515 --> 01:37:27,748 That's the truth. 1921 01:37:30,485 --> 01:37:31,886 Because you wanna know why? 1922 01:37:31,919 --> 01:37:34,922 I'm not the one who's supposed to be perfect, you are. 1923 01:37:37,024 --> 01:37:42,296 But I have done my best. I have worked my hardest. 1924 01:37:42,330 --> 01:37:44,765 I have served humanity. You've watched me. 1925 01:37:45,866 --> 01:37:46,867 Hm? 1926 01:37:50,938 --> 01:37:53,040 Maybe you're just willing but not able. 1927 01:37:55,377 --> 01:37:57,445 And so you're just not omnipotent. 1928 01:37:59,180 --> 01:38:02,584 Or, are you able and not willing and malevolent? 1929 01:38:05,453 --> 01:38:07,888 I don't think it's either. 1930 01:38:07,922 --> 01:38:13,961 The truth is, you are neither willing nor able. 1931 01:38:15,262 --> 01:38:17,097 So, why do I need to call you God? 1932 01:38:28,943 --> 01:38:31,413 Have you seen these new high-tech ultrasounds? 1933 01:38:31,446 --> 01:38:32,913 In the '70s before Roe, 1934 01:38:32,947 --> 01:38:35,249 no one had this technology. 1935 01:38:35,282 --> 01:38:38,085 Not I, not the courts. 1936 01:38:38,118 --> 01:38:41,956 This would change everything, especially for me. 1937 01:38:41,989 --> 01:38:44,426 No, but I hear the new imaging is great. 1938 01:38:44,459 --> 01:38:46,293 You know what, it helps a lot with accuracy. 1939 01:38:46,328 --> 01:38:47,629 Let's go try it out. 1940 01:39:26,334 --> 01:39:27,602 Are you okay? 1941 01:39:38,112 --> 01:39:39,813 It is a person. 1942 01:39:42,651 --> 01:39:44,619 It's a person. 1943 01:39:50,124 --> 01:39:53,461 God, forgive me. What have I done? 1944 01:39:54,995 --> 01:39:57,831 I-I'm so sorry, God. 1945 01:39:57,865 --> 01:39:59,833 I'm so sorry. 1946 01:39:59,867 --> 01:40:02,704 Please, I want her back. 1947 01:40:05,407 --> 01:40:07,709 I killed my own daughter. 1948 01:40:23,824 --> 01:40:26,461 Doctor. Phil McCombs, Washington Post. 1949 01:40:26,494 --> 01:40:27,462 Thank you. Good to see you. 1950 01:40:27,495 --> 01:40:28,663 Thank you for taking the time. 1951 01:40:38,440 --> 01:40:42,209 So, when you take them out, you don't see anything? 1952 01:40:44,746 --> 01:40:46,080 No, you don't see anything. 1953 01:40:47,881 --> 01:40:49,317 I-I-I mean, 1954 01:40:49,351 --> 01:40:51,852 of all the thousands of second trimester abortions 1955 01:40:51,885 --> 01:40:54,188 that I've done, I mean, maybe I've seen 1956 01:40:54,221 --> 01:40:56,190 half a dozen. 1957 01:40:56,223 --> 01:40:58,526 But didn't it bother you when you did? 1958 01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:00,861 No, not particularly. It was the end product, 1959 01:41:00,894 --> 01:41:03,063 a lifeless limp thing lying there. 1960 01:41:03,097 --> 01:41:05,899 They have a human form. 1961 01:41:05,933 --> 01:41:07,369 Oh, absolutely. 1962 01:41:11,740 --> 01:41:14,642 I-I-I'm sorry. I'm a little bit confused. 1963 01:41:18,278 --> 01:41:22,116 First you said, "All you see is bloody meat." 1964 01:41:22,149 --> 01:41:24,284 Hm-mm. 1965 01:41:24,319 --> 01:41:28,523 But now you're saying you always knew it was a person. 1966 01:41:28,556 --> 01:41:29,457 So Doctor, 1967 01:41:31,959 --> 01:41:33,093 which one is it? 1968 01:41:58,919 --> 01:41:59,953 I knew all along. 1969 01:42:02,757 --> 01:42:04,291 Life exists at conception. 1970 01:42:06,594 --> 01:42:09,831 I mean, I'd taken part in over 70,000 abortions. 1971 01:42:09,864 --> 01:42:12,901 I'd seen other sonograms. 1972 01:42:12,933 --> 01:42:16,270 I knew in my heart what I was doing was wrong. 1973 01:42:16,303 --> 01:42:17,472 And I lied. 1974 01:42:20,642 --> 01:42:22,744 I lied to the world. I lied to God. 1975 01:42:22,777 --> 01:42:25,212 More importantly. I lied to me. 1976 01:42:27,348 --> 01:42:28,850 But I kept on killing. 1977 01:42:30,485 --> 01:42:32,654 Until I had the courage to face the reality 1978 01:42:32,687 --> 01:42:34,656 of the absolute horror of what I was doing. 1979 01:42:39,894 --> 01:42:41,629 I had been an atheist, 1980 01:42:41,663 --> 01:42:45,165 so my opinions on abortion were not influenced by religion. 1981 01:42:45,199 --> 01:42:48,736 And when life gave me more than I could stand, I chose to kneel. 1982 01:43:36,451 --> 01:43:40,388 ♪ There's a fortune In abortion ♪ 1983 01:43:40,421 --> 01:43:43,825 ♪ Just a twist of the wrist And you're through ♪ 1984 01:43:43,858 --> 01:43:44,926 Oooh! 1985 01:43:44,959 --> 01:43:49,062 ♪ The population Of the nation ♪ 1986 01:43:49,096 --> 01:43:52,834 ♪ Won't grow If it's left up to you ♪ 1987 01:43:52,867 --> 01:43:57,372 ♪ There's a fortune In abortion ♪ 1988 01:43:57,405 --> 01:44:01,442 ♪ There's a gold mine In the sex line ♪ 1989 01:44:01,476 --> 01:44:06,213 ♪ Only rabbits Have those habits ♪ 1990 01:44:06,246 --> 01:44:10,952 ♪ Oh, there's a fortune In abortion ♪ 1991 01:44:10,985 --> 01:44:16,089 ♪ You never bother The future father ♪ 1992 01:44:16,123 --> 01:44:20,862 The mass of Negroes, particularly in the South, 1993 01:44:20,895 --> 01:44:25,466 still breed carelessly and disastrously. 1994 01:44:27,635 --> 01:44:31,406 The result that the increase among Negroes, 1995 01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:33,808 more than among whites, 1996 01:44:33,841 --> 01:44:36,611 is that portion of the population 1997 01:44:36,644 --> 01:44:40,014 least intelligent and fit. 1998 01:44:41,516 --> 01:44:42,717 In our country, there's been one group 1999 01:44:42,750 --> 01:44:45,386 associated with reactionary politics, 2000 01:44:45,420 --> 01:44:48,890 behind-the-scenes manipulations, and backward ideas. 2001 01:44:48,923 --> 01:44:50,290 Wait, not the Catholics again? 2002 01:44:50,325 --> 01:44:51,960 Of course, the Catholics. 2003 01:44:51,993 --> 01:44:53,728 Catholic and fundamentalist churches 2004 01:44:53,761 --> 01:44:55,930 have constantly violated the law. 2005 01:44:55,964 --> 01:45:00,401 Violations which breach the wall separating the church and state. 2006 01:45:00,435 --> 01:45:02,403 The justices cited Larry's book 2007 01:45:02,437 --> 01:45:06,507 seven times in their decision, citing no other legal historian. 2008 01:45:08,810 --> 01:45:12,313 Jane Roe became known to the world as Norma McCorvey. 2009 01:45:12,347 --> 01:45:14,415 And when she learned the truth that having an abortion 2010 01:45:14,449 --> 01:45:17,284 was killing a baby and not passing a period 2011 01:45:17,318 --> 01:45:22,457 or removing a bunch of cells, she became pro-life. 2012 01:45:22,490 --> 01:45:26,694 See, the truth is, she herself never even had an abortion. 2013 01:45:28,195 --> 01:45:29,998 They lied to me. 2014 01:45:30,031 --> 01:45:33,334 I didn't go to the Supreme Court for a bunch of women. 2015 01:45:33,368 --> 01:45:36,169 Who lied to you? 2016 01:45:36,203 --> 01:45:38,138 Sarah Weddington. 2017 01:45:38,171 --> 01:45:40,475 I asked her if she knew where to get an abortion 2018 01:45:40,508 --> 01:45:43,111 and she and Linda told me that they didn't. 2019 01:45:43,143 --> 01:45:45,178 She knew where. 2020 01:45:45,212 --> 01:45:47,815 Could you elaborate? 2021 01:45:47,849 --> 01:45:50,351 Sarah had an abortion in Mexico. 2022 01:45:50,385 --> 01:45:53,721 They were just looking for somebody to use. 2023 01:45:53,755 --> 01:45:55,423 Do you feel what you did was wrong? 2024 01:46:00,528 --> 01:46:02,195 You never had an abortion, did you? I mean... 2025 01:46:02,229 --> 01:46:04,365 No. No, sir. I never had an abortion. 2026 01:46:04,399 --> 01:46:05,833 You carried your child to full term. 2027 01:46:05,867 --> 01:46:07,200 Yes, sir, I did. 2028 01:46:07,234 --> 01:46:08,703 You wanted an abortion. 2029 01:46:08,736 --> 01:46:10,338 Yes, sir, I did. 2030 01:46:10,371 --> 01:46:12,305 And in a sense, you were angry at one point 2031 01:46:12,340 --> 01:46:14,909 at Sarah Weddington for not letting you get one 2032 01:46:14,942 --> 01:46:17,177 because it didn't suit their purposes at that time. 2033 01:46:17,210 --> 01:46:19,313 They needed you to be pregnant, right? 2034 01:46:19,347 --> 01:46:21,248 They needed their plaintiff to be pregnant, 2035 01:46:21,281 --> 01:46:22,850 it is exactly right. 2036 01:46:22,884 --> 01:46:26,186 But see, what really was the tell-in of the whole schmeil 2037 01:46:26,219 --> 01:46:28,923 was the fact that when Sarah Weddington came out 2038 01:46:28,956 --> 01:46:32,493 with her book, I don't know, two or three years ago, 2039 01:46:32,527 --> 01:46:34,929 she told in her book that she had an abortion 2040 01:46:34,962 --> 01:46:37,230 and she went to Mexico. 2041 01:46:37,264 --> 01:46:40,168 And when I sat across that table at Colombo's Pizza 2042 01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:43,004 here in Dallas, Texas and I asked her, 2043 01:46:43,037 --> 01:46:44,539 I said, "Sarah, do you know 2044 01:46:44,572 --> 01:46:46,541 where I can go and get an abortion?" 2045 01:46:46,574 --> 01:46:50,778 And she said, "No." Well, she lied to me. 2046 01:46:50,812 --> 01:46:52,245 Some justices 2047 01:46:52,279 --> 01:46:53,848 were leaking to the press. 2048 01:46:53,881 --> 01:46:56,216 Some had family members working for Planned Parenthood. 2049 01:46:56,249 --> 01:46:58,186 Burger and other justices then changed their vote 2050 01:46:58,218 --> 01:47:01,322 because of public outcry and family pressure. 2051 01:47:04,058 --> 01:47:05,760 Dr. Mildred Jefferson became the president 2052 01:47:05,793 --> 01:47:07,528 of National Right to Life, 2053 01:47:07,562 --> 01:47:09,464 and an influence on President Reagan 2054 01:47:09,497 --> 01:47:10,765 becoming pro-life. 2055 01:47:12,467 --> 01:47:14,769 I produced a documentary called The Silent Scream 2056 01:47:14,802 --> 01:47:18,238 where 18 days before you even miss your period 2057 01:47:18,271 --> 01:47:22,376 and realize you're pregnant, there is a heartbeat. 2058 01:47:22,410 --> 01:47:25,747 At ten weeks, when you go to abort your baby, 2059 01:47:25,780 --> 01:47:28,983 she will actually feel the pain of having her limbs torn off. 2060 01:47:29,016 --> 01:47:32,086 This is the silent scream 2061 01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:36,190 of a child threatened imminently with extinction. 2062 01:47:39,285 --> 01:47:44,285 mixtime.net155840

Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.