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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:43,144 --> 00:00:45,847 Alright, alright, alright, shut up! 2 00:00:45,947 --> 00:00:47,415 Shut up! 3 00:00:48,149 --> 00:00:49,817 Shut your goddamn mouth, 4 00:00:49,918 --> 00:00:52,287 and let me make a piece of my mind. 5 00:00:53,988 --> 00:00:55,089 Alright! 6 00:00:55,189 --> 00:00:58,092 Everybody that likes to rape women, 7 00:00:58,192 --> 00:01:00,061 say, "Sieg Heil!" 8 00:01:00,128 --> 00:01:02,163 Sieg Heil! 9 00:01:18,313 --> 00:01:19,347 What are we doing? 10 00:01:19,981 --> 00:01:21,482 We... 11 00:03:00,314 --> 00:03:01,482 Yeah! 12 00:03:15,196 --> 00:03:16,497 What's up? 13 00:03:16,597 --> 00:03:18,566 Huh? I guess we're going home. 14 00:03:22,303 --> 00:03:25,840 I'm trying to bring peace to this world. I hope you guys are happy. 15 00:03:31,546 --> 00:03:33,314 It's real stoked. 16 00:03:33,414 --> 00:03:35,383 Peace! Love! Whatever... 17 00:03:36,584 --> 00:03:38,419 - No it doesn't. - It happens all the time. 18 00:03:44,092 --> 00:03:46,194 It's good shit, man. 19 00:04:04,245 --> 00:04:05,947 We are going to keep on 20 00:04:06,047 --> 00:04:09,083 trying to strengthen the American family 21 00:04:09,183 --> 00:04:12,286 to make American families a lot more like the Waltons 22 00:04:12,386 --> 00:04:14,322 and a lot less like the Simpsons. 23 00:04:41,449 --> 00:04:43,518 If you believe in free speech, 24 00:04:43,618 --> 00:04:45,553 people have the right to burn a cross, 25 00:04:45,653 --> 00:04:47,789 people have a right to burn the flag. 26 00:04:47,889 --> 00:04:50,291 It's offending people, and it's offending somebody's religion 27 00:04:50,391 --> 00:04:52,369 or offending somebody's love of country. What's the difference? 28 00:04:52,393 --> 00:04:54,393 You offend people every day. Should you go to jail? 29 00:04:56,764 --> 00:05:01,903 ♪ In the land of the free 30 00:05:02,837 --> 00:05:08,476 ♪ And the home of the brave ♪ 31 00:05:21,522 --> 00:05:24,458 I wanna take the president, 32 00:05:24,559 --> 00:05:28,830 chop off his head, and mail it to them in a garbage bag. 33 00:05:30,698 --> 00:05:32,733 ♪ Hinkley had a vision 34 00:05:33,601 --> 00:05:35,269 ♪ Hinkley had a vision... ♪ 35 00:06:10,972 --> 00:06:12,773 Jerry! Jerry! 36 00:06:12,874 --> 00:06:15,209 - Jerry! Jerry! - Thank you very much! 37 00:06:15,309 --> 00:06:19,480 'And now, here he is, the conservative voice of television, 38 00:06:19,580 --> 00:06:21,983 'Wally George!' 39 00:06:24,952 --> 00:06:28,389 Today we're gonna take a look into the world of shock rock, 40 00:06:28,489 --> 00:06:31,926 rock music that is violent, scary, and even perverse. 41 00:06:32,026 --> 00:06:34,595 We have one of the most disgusting perverts 42 00:06:34,695 --> 00:06:36,864 I've ever seen in my whole life on the show here. 43 00:06:45,273 --> 00:06:47,441 Here is El Duce. 44 00:06:52,013 --> 00:06:53,648 Hold on! 45 00:06:53,748 --> 00:06:55,883 Hey, hold it! 46 00:06:55,983 --> 00:06:58,653 How do you describe your music? 47 00:06:58,753 --> 00:06:59,963 Well, it's rape rock. 48 00:06:59,987 --> 00:07:03,057 "Rape rock"? 49 00:07:03,157 --> 00:07:05,626 You know, I wanna be polite to anyone who comes on our show, 50 00:07:05,726 --> 00:07:10,097 but I gotta say, when I hear that you promote rape, 51 00:07:10,197 --> 00:07:12,400 that is not only thoroughly disgusting, 52 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:14,902 but it can't possibly be viewed as entertainment. 53 00:07:18,873 --> 00:07:20,207 Well, it is to me. 54 00:07:36,991 --> 00:07:38,960 Duce! 55 00:08:22,837 --> 00:08:26,540 I have two sons, a sixteen-year-old who's sitting in the audience now, 56 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,911 and a ten-year-old, and I try to teach my sons how to be respectful, 57 00:08:31,012 --> 00:08:33,881 and that sodomizing people... 58 00:08:33,981 --> 00:08:36,984 Do you realize that Sodom and Gomorrah in the Bible 59 00:08:37,084 --> 00:08:39,920 was destroyed by God because that was wrong? 60 00:08:40,021 --> 00:08:41,789 Do you realize that? 61 00:08:42,390 --> 00:08:46,827 I like music, but I do not like things that promote violence against people. 62 00:08:46,927 --> 00:08:48,963 Let me ask you something. When were you raped? 63 00:08:49,063 --> 00:08:51,499 I was raped in '70. 64 00:08:51,599 --> 00:08:53,367 You look kind of familiar, I have to say. 65 00:08:53,467 --> 00:08:56,270 No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 66 00:08:56,904 --> 00:08:58,139 Sorry. 67 00:08:58,239 --> 00:09:01,075 That's just... That's just plain disrespectful. 68 00:09:01,175 --> 00:09:03,310 - I mean, that's not... - He doesn't know any better. 69 00:09:03,411 --> 00:09:05,346 That's not a point of view. 70 00:09:09,450 --> 00:09:11,819 Oh, Wally! 71 00:09:11,919 --> 00:09:14,922 You shouldn't have the right to be on any stage 72 00:09:15,022 --> 00:09:17,291 or any radio station in the United States of America. 73 00:09:20,961 --> 00:09:23,964 And now, here they are: Gwar. 74 00:09:27,068 --> 00:09:28,702 - Uh, you like Gwar, huh? - Yes. 75 00:09:31,172 --> 00:09:34,708 Is it OK that some of the message, let's say, is violent? 76 00:09:34,809 --> 00:09:36,444 - Would that be OK? - Yes. 77 00:09:36,544 --> 00:09:37,711 That's OK? 78 00:10:07,508 --> 00:10:09,643 Well, um, obviously... 79 00:10:09,743 --> 00:10:11,712 I think, yeah, ours is simulated. 80 00:10:11,812 --> 00:10:12,813 And theirs is real! 81 00:10:12,913 --> 00:10:14,448 - One time... - When he's on the sauce! 82 00:10:14,548 --> 00:10:15,883 When he's on the sauce! 83 00:10:15,983 --> 00:10:19,854 One time, we had the misfortune of taking El Duce... 84 00:10:19,954 --> 00:10:21,274 Being on bus with him is horrible. 85 00:10:21,322 --> 00:10:23,023 From New York City... 86 00:10:23,124 --> 00:10:25,025 The whole band, the whole band... 87 00:10:25,126 --> 00:10:29,463 There's sixteen of us, and all of them in our bus. 88 00:10:29,563 --> 00:10:31,866 It was like... no room at all to do anything. 89 00:10:31,966 --> 00:10:33,926 We were taking him from New York City to Richmond. 90 00:10:34,001 --> 00:10:36,237 He had this punching balloon like kids play with. 91 00:10:36,337 --> 00:10:37,438 He kept whacking it. 92 00:10:37,538 --> 00:10:40,708 First, he started spitting on it, like, licking big loogies on it, 93 00:10:40,808 --> 00:10:42,443 and then he'd go, boogey-boogey-boogey... 94 00:10:42,543 --> 00:10:44,879 so it splashed everywhere. 95 00:10:44,979 --> 00:10:46,213 - Yeah. - But then... 96 00:10:46,313 --> 00:10:48,516 - But then... - He peed on it. 97 00:10:48,616 --> 00:10:50,417 And he was, like, running around the bus, 98 00:10:50,518 --> 00:10:52,052 going tk-uh-tk-uh-tk-uh... 99 00:10:52,153 --> 00:10:54,221 into people's face with this pee balloon. 100 00:10:55,422 --> 00:10:57,491 He gets on stage, 101 00:10:57,591 --> 00:10:59,493 pulls his pants down, 102 00:10:59,593 --> 00:11:02,997 pulls his dick out, and starts flopping it around and stuff, 103 00:11:03,097 --> 00:11:07,368 and then some super sick gross slut 104 00:11:07,468 --> 00:11:10,804 runs out on stage and starts sucking him off 105 00:11:10,905 --> 00:11:13,307 in front of the whole audience. 106 00:11:13,407 --> 00:11:15,576 - And... - Gross! 107 00:11:15,676 --> 00:11:16,877 Eurgh! 108 00:11:16,977 --> 00:11:19,113 In front of the whole fucking audience! 109 00:11:19,213 --> 00:11:23,317 And the bouncers didn't do a goddamn thing. 110 00:11:23,417 --> 00:11:25,319 OK, this is because.. 111 00:11:25,419 --> 00:11:28,289 He's one of the weirdest guys I know, man. 112 00:11:28,389 --> 00:11:29,456 I like him. 113 00:11:29,557 --> 00:11:32,359 I like him, because he's always nice to me. 114 00:11:32,459 --> 00:11:36,564 He always is nice to me, but I really... 115 00:11:36,664 --> 00:11:39,867 You know, it does bother me a little bit the way he treats women. 116 00:11:39,967 --> 00:11:44,371 Very early on, he started referring to the band as "rape rock", which I... 117 00:11:44,471 --> 00:11:46,807 If you asked me earlier, was there anything, 118 00:11:46,907 --> 00:11:50,477 any song or anything that really, uh... I thought was going a little too far, 119 00:11:50,578 --> 00:11:54,515 when he first came out with that, I thought that was going a little too far. 120 00:11:54,615 --> 00:11:57,418 Personally, I'm not in favor of rape, you know, 121 00:11:57,518 --> 00:11:59,420 I think it's hideous, and uh... 122 00:12:01,155 --> 00:12:04,258 So, to that extent, I think that's going a little too far, 123 00:12:04,358 --> 00:12:06,393 but again, that's his personal vision. 124 00:12:37,858 --> 00:12:40,294 What kind of people go to your gigs? 125 00:12:40,394 --> 00:12:42,763 Uh, we get sort of a broad mix, you know, 126 00:12:42,863 --> 00:12:45,666 we get a lot of your kind of nihilistic punkers 127 00:12:45,766 --> 00:12:47,468 and some of your intellectuals. 128 00:12:47,568 --> 00:12:49,570 What do you think of your brother? 129 00:12:49,670 --> 00:12:50,804 I think he's rocking. 130 00:12:50,904 --> 00:12:52,273 Is he? 131 00:12:53,274 --> 00:12:55,509 - He's a real man. - Yeah. 132 00:12:55,609 --> 00:12:57,144 El Duce, your brother, is a real man? 133 00:12:57,244 --> 00:12:59,580 - He's a real Aryan man. - Yeah! 134 00:12:59,680 --> 00:13:01,315 Yeah! Sieg Heil! 135 00:13:03,050 --> 00:13:05,286 ♪ Your daughter is my victim 136 00:13:05,386 --> 00:13:08,155 ♪ Yeah-eee-ay! ♪ 137 00:13:15,763 --> 00:13:17,931 So El Duce is, um... 138 00:13:19,633 --> 00:13:21,435 Do El Duce's lyrics offend you? 139 00:13:23,137 --> 00:13:24,171 No, not really. 140 00:13:24,271 --> 00:13:28,409 The one song, "On The Rag", kind of... 141 00:13:28,509 --> 00:13:31,345 "When I'm On The Rag", that bothers me. 142 00:13:31,445 --> 00:13:33,480 But... 143 00:13:33,580 --> 00:13:35,849 Do you think he is serious about his lyrics, 144 00:13:35,949 --> 00:13:40,187 or do you think he's kind of just trying to have a laugh? 145 00:13:40,287 --> 00:13:41,555 I think a little of both. 146 00:13:41,655 --> 00:13:44,958 I don't know which more, you know, 147 00:13:45,059 --> 00:13:46,927 which one is more... 148 00:13:47,828 --> 00:13:49,096 But... 149 00:13:50,230 --> 00:13:52,166 Does he ever scare you? 150 00:13:53,734 --> 00:13:55,736 No. 151 00:13:55,836 --> 00:13:59,039 He's... you know, he's pretty nice, you know... 152 00:14:01,809 --> 00:14:05,179 for being a Mentor, you know. 153 00:14:05,279 --> 00:14:08,882 Where do you think he gets his ideas for lyrics? 154 00:14:09,883 --> 00:14:11,218 Mm... 155 00:14:13,287 --> 00:14:15,622 From, um... 156 00:14:15,723 --> 00:14:19,059 what he's seen other people cringe about. 157 00:14:19,993 --> 00:14:21,795 Like a few... 158 00:14:21,895 --> 00:14:23,964 He loves to see people cringe. 159 00:14:24,064 --> 00:14:25,942 Even once or twice I think they picketed, 160 00:14:25,966 --> 00:14:27,701 feminist groups have picketed the man. 161 00:14:27,801 --> 00:14:30,838 Rape rock is not a joke! Rape rock is not a joke! 162 00:14:30,938 --> 00:14:34,475 What do you think of the demonstration that's going on outside? 163 00:14:34,575 --> 00:14:35,943 I think it's great. 164 00:14:36,043 --> 00:14:39,213 'Ted Weatherhead, CBC News, Winnipeg.' 165 00:14:39,313 --> 00:14:41,815 You know, a lot of girls trip out about it, but... 166 00:14:41,915 --> 00:14:45,085 you know, they shouldn't take that all so seriously. 167 00:14:46,887 --> 00:14:48,889 Do you think it's clever? 168 00:14:48,989 --> 00:14:50,124 Yeah. 169 00:14:50,224 --> 00:14:52,726 Yeah, the way they come up with these ideas. 170 00:14:52,826 --> 00:14:55,562 It's pretty perverted, but, you know... 171 00:14:56,797 --> 00:14:59,833 It's really funny that they think of these things. 172 00:15:43,343 --> 00:15:46,213 I figure, you know, El Duce is his own man. 173 00:15:46,313 --> 00:15:48,849 He's, uh... In his own way he's a genius 174 00:15:48,949 --> 00:15:50,951 and a great comedian and a great musician. 175 00:15:51,051 --> 00:15:53,921 So I don't want to attempt 176 00:15:54,021 --> 00:15:58,258 to put his point of view through my filter. 177 00:15:58,358 --> 00:16:00,994 You know, I'm content to play my part with the music 178 00:16:01,094 --> 00:16:06,099 and whatever he comes up with in terms of his lyrics, uh... 179 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,937 You know, I'm a great El Duce fan, just from being in the band, 180 00:16:10,037 --> 00:16:13,607 it's great to watch him come up with new lyrics and funny lines. 181 00:16:13,707 --> 00:16:15,976 So I would consider myself 182 00:16:16,076 --> 00:16:18,221 probably one of the greatest connoisseurs of what he does, 183 00:16:18,245 --> 00:16:20,347 and I'm able - at least I think I am - 184 00:16:20,447 --> 00:16:23,750 to recognize a good El Duce performance from a bad one. 185 00:16:23,851 --> 00:16:26,487 I think to a certain extent, he's, like, a great artist 186 00:16:26,587 --> 00:16:29,067 in that he doesn't really give a damn what people think of him. 187 00:16:29,156 --> 00:16:32,659 You know, if you look at a Van Gogh or something like that, 188 00:16:32,759 --> 00:16:36,029 these guys are so far out in their own thing... 189 00:16:36,129 --> 00:16:39,967 they're just doing what they're doing, they're on autopilot. 190 00:16:40,067 --> 00:16:41,602 And I think he's on autopilot. 191 00:16:41,702 --> 00:16:47,140 He's not calculating anything in minute details. 192 00:16:47,241 --> 00:16:50,077 He's not saying, "I'm going to sing this particular line 193 00:16:50,177 --> 00:16:53,480 "cos I think this is going to make the biggest impact." 194 00:16:53,580 --> 00:16:58,719 I think he's going to do what he... what comes naturally. 195 00:16:58,819 --> 00:17:01,355 It's a legitimate expression of his own psyche. 196 00:17:03,557 --> 00:17:04,992 Um... 197 00:17:05,092 --> 00:17:07,628 That's kind of a tough one, 198 00:17:07,728 --> 00:17:11,064 I guess maybe "Free Fix For A Fuck" is a big favorite of mine. 199 00:17:35,689 --> 00:17:39,092 The lyrics that sort of pictorialized abuse to women and all that 200 00:17:39,192 --> 00:17:41,161 doesn't bother you? 201 00:17:41,261 --> 00:17:47,601 Well, I like the "Straight Out Of Compton" NWA tape, too. 202 00:17:47,701 --> 00:17:50,103 I heard that and I ran down and bought it. 203 00:17:50,203 --> 00:17:55,342 It's talking about stuff that is in some people's heads. 204 00:17:55,442 --> 00:17:57,544 He'll bring it out. Like... 205 00:17:57,644 --> 00:17:59,546 If El and them... 206 00:17:59,646 --> 00:18:01,782 If they were just running around raping chicks 207 00:18:01,882 --> 00:18:04,051 that didn't want to be raped and doing all this shit, 208 00:18:04,151 --> 00:18:06,853 if NWA was out gangbanging, 209 00:18:06,954 --> 00:18:08,755 I wouldn't be into their music. 210 00:18:08,855 --> 00:18:11,792 But they're musicians, they're not into that stuff at all. 211 00:18:11,892 --> 00:18:13,812 You know, they're just talking about a reflection 212 00:18:13,860 --> 00:18:17,564 of part of the human condition. 213 00:18:18,932 --> 00:18:21,835 And El has just... He has such a humorous twist to it, 214 00:18:21,935 --> 00:18:24,071 nobody could take it offensively. 215 00:18:26,239 --> 00:18:28,775 Turn on the camera, I'm ready to rock. 216 00:18:30,644 --> 00:18:33,647 You better have that camera on there, Ryan. 217 00:18:33,747 --> 00:18:35,282 Is that right? 218 00:18:38,018 --> 00:18:39,620 Does this light work? 219 00:18:40,721 --> 00:18:42,389 Yeah. 220 00:18:45,325 --> 00:18:46,760 Peaceful rape. 221 00:18:46,860 --> 00:18:48,762 What's peaceful rape? 222 00:18:48,862 --> 00:18:51,398 That's when you knock a broad out on... 223 00:18:51,498 --> 00:18:53,800 Thorazine... 224 00:18:56,003 --> 00:18:58,105 maybe some, um... 225 00:19:01,041 --> 00:19:02,409 'ludes. 226 00:19:04,578 --> 00:19:06,313 So you don't believe in, uh...? 227 00:19:06,413 --> 00:19:08,515 No, no, let me finish. 228 00:19:09,449 --> 00:19:11,385 Then hypnotism. 229 00:19:13,020 --> 00:19:14,688 Babe... 230 00:19:17,991 --> 00:19:19,726 take your bra off. 231 00:19:21,995 --> 00:19:23,797 Slut. 232 00:19:27,100 --> 00:19:29,002 Peel your panties off. 233 00:19:37,744 --> 00:19:39,646 Your clitoris here. 234 00:19:41,214 --> 00:19:43,050 Lock them legs. 235 00:20:05,972 --> 00:20:07,641 Uh! Uh! Mm... 236 00:20:10,977 --> 00:20:13,280 Ah! Swallow it. 237 00:20:17,050 --> 00:20:18,819 It's as easy as that. 238 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,988 Heil Hitler. 239 00:20:28,729 --> 00:20:29,729 Mm! 240 00:20:29,763 --> 00:20:34,768 Mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm... Mm! 241 00:20:34,868 --> 00:20:35,969 Mm! 242 00:20:36,069 --> 00:20:37,404 Mm! 243 00:20:43,443 --> 00:20:45,779 Have you always drank for relaxation? 244 00:20:48,248 --> 00:20:50,183 I've been an alcoholic all my life. 245 00:20:50,283 --> 00:20:53,220 I stole my first beer from my dad. 246 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,256 - El Duce likes to drink a lot. - Yeah. 247 00:20:56,356 --> 00:20:57,891 He says he has an alcohol problem. 248 00:20:57,991 --> 00:21:00,761 Yeah, he's a full-on alcoholic. 249 00:21:00,861 --> 00:21:05,932 El Duce when he's sober is a really nice guy, 250 00:21:06,032 --> 00:21:07,534 when he's drunk he's horrible. 251 00:21:08,869 --> 00:21:12,272 That way I know that only I can drink it. 252 00:21:12,372 --> 00:21:15,175 Anybody who drinks it, drinks my spit. 253 00:21:15,275 --> 00:21:17,177 El Duce drinks a lot when he's around you? 254 00:21:17,277 --> 00:21:18,612 Yeah. 255 00:21:18,712 --> 00:21:20,456 He probably drinks a lot when he's not around you. 256 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:21,815 Yeah. 257 00:21:22,949 --> 00:21:24,484 Is that a problem for you? 258 00:21:25,786 --> 00:21:30,157 Sometimes when he's Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. 259 00:21:32,392 --> 00:21:34,628 What do you think of El as a human being? 260 00:21:34,728 --> 00:21:39,065 Well, see, personally I'm really fond of him, and... 261 00:21:41,601 --> 00:21:43,069 I don't know, 262 00:21:43,170 --> 00:21:45,972 part of it is because we worked at the Ivar Theater together 263 00:21:46,072 --> 00:21:48,341 for a long time, we have memories... 264 00:21:48,441 --> 00:21:51,745 you know, about all the shit that went down there. 265 00:21:51,845 --> 00:21:53,880 You also are the Master of Ceremonies 266 00:21:53,980 --> 00:21:57,050 at one of the grimiest places I know of in Hollywood, 267 00:21:57,150 --> 00:22:01,388 the Ivar Theater, which features naked dancers. 268 00:22:04,224 --> 00:22:08,028 - You worked at the Ivar Theater? - Yeah. 269 00:22:08,128 --> 00:22:10,931 - Is that the best job you ever had? - Yeah. 270 00:22:11,031 --> 00:22:15,502 I worked there for about eight years, I got to run the spot light, 271 00:22:15,602 --> 00:22:18,138 and play the girls' cassette tapes, 272 00:22:18,238 --> 00:22:21,241 and play the porno movies and announce the girls, 273 00:22:21,341 --> 00:22:24,077 all up in the light booth. 274 00:22:24,978 --> 00:22:27,180 Yeah, he was the light man at the Ivar. 275 00:22:29,382 --> 00:22:30,382 Yeah. 276 00:22:30,483 --> 00:22:32,252 So, he brought Steve by? 277 00:22:32,352 --> 00:22:35,388 No, actually he wanted me to go dance, do a show, 278 00:22:35,488 --> 00:22:39,125 cos the chicks he had doing his show... 279 00:22:40,293 --> 00:22:42,462 were flaking out. 280 00:22:42,562 --> 00:22:45,432 And I'd listened to his music, I thought his music was really good, 281 00:22:45,532 --> 00:22:48,768 but that wasn't my scene, I wasn't into going. 282 00:22:48,869 --> 00:22:51,404 But my girlfriend Zylmar says, 283 00:22:51,504 --> 00:22:55,208 "Yeah let's go, let's go." So I said, "OK." 284 00:22:55,308 --> 00:22:58,778 And then when I started meeting these other guys, you know. 285 00:22:59,446 --> 00:23:00,347 Yes. 286 00:23:00,447 --> 00:23:05,518 Yes. I'm a stripper at the Ivar Theater, and I'm damn proud of it, too! 287 00:23:05,619 --> 00:23:07,320 Right on, Duce! 288 00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:40,453 Hey, all you sluts out there, 289 00:23:40,553 --> 00:23:46,192 are you tired of hanging out with a bunch of low-life glam rock fags? 290 00:23:47,127 --> 00:23:51,665 Why don't you go for a real man, a booze-guzzling, porno-reading man? 291 00:23:52,933 --> 00:23:57,470 Just enter the Mentors Dream Date Contest, 292 00:23:57,570 --> 00:24:01,641 and you can win a good date with me, El Duce. 293 00:24:02,876 --> 00:24:06,246 Do what they're doing in these dirty magazines with me, baby. 294 00:24:06,780 --> 00:24:10,016 How long have you been El Duce's girlfriend? 295 00:24:10,116 --> 00:24:11,685 Um... 296 00:24:13,086 --> 00:24:15,155 About six weeks. 297 00:24:16,589 --> 00:24:18,525 So, how did you run into him? 298 00:24:19,626 --> 00:24:24,531 The first time that I met him, just hanging out in Hollywood, 299 00:24:24,631 --> 00:24:28,935 just hanging out drinking, trashing. 300 00:24:29,035 --> 00:24:31,972 Do you remember the first time you met him? 301 00:24:32,072 --> 00:24:35,709 Yeah. Yeah, I remember. Saw him on the street. 302 00:24:35,809 --> 00:24:38,878 It was him and a couple of his friends, and I was the only girl there, 303 00:24:38,979 --> 00:24:43,049 and they wanted to not hang out in Hollywood drinking cos of the cops, 304 00:24:43,149 --> 00:24:45,185 and they wanted to go to this one place. 305 00:24:45,285 --> 00:24:49,923 First I was up for it, and then I started thinking, "This is El Duce. 306 00:24:50,023 --> 00:24:51,725 "There's three guys and just one of me." 307 00:24:51,825 --> 00:24:54,160 And I just kind of blew them off. 308 00:24:54,260 --> 00:24:57,030 I was like, "I forgot I got something to do." 309 00:24:57,130 --> 00:24:59,499 You know, I thought something would happen. 310 00:24:59,599 --> 00:25:05,505 - What did you hear about him? - Oh, a lot of stories. 311 00:25:05,605 --> 00:25:08,508 You know, El Duce stories, his reputation. 312 00:25:09,709 --> 00:25:11,978 - Like what? - About... 313 00:25:12,078 --> 00:25:13,780 About being a big pervert 314 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,785 and stuff he does to girls and stuff, you know, cos this guy said, 315 00:25:18,885 --> 00:25:21,888 "Oh, he'll piss all over you, he'll rape you," 316 00:25:21,988 --> 00:25:24,228 this and that, you know, and I was kind of scared of him. 317 00:25:25,625 --> 00:25:29,062 Do a lot of girls come on to El Duce at the concerts? 318 00:25:30,563 --> 00:25:32,032 Enough do. 319 00:25:33,166 --> 00:25:35,201 Yeah, I... 320 00:25:35,301 --> 00:25:38,605 I think one is enough, you know, too much. 321 00:25:38,705 --> 00:25:42,008 - Duce say anything to 'em? - Oh, yeah, he loves it. 322 00:25:42,709 --> 00:25:44,511 Does he treat you nicely? 323 00:25:44,611 --> 00:25:47,147 Yeah, he treats me pretty good. 324 00:25:49,682 --> 00:25:52,452 How did you all get together as Mentors? 325 00:25:52,552 --> 00:25:55,722 Well, The Mentors got together in Seattle, 326 00:25:55,822 --> 00:25:57,724 and we've been childhood friends. 327 00:25:57,824 --> 00:26:02,529 I've known El Duce since we were in 4th grade. 328 00:26:02,629 --> 00:26:04,731 We went to the same elementary school together, 329 00:26:04,831 --> 00:26:09,269 and then I met Sickie when we were in 7th grade. 330 00:26:09,369 --> 00:26:10,837 We're all the same age. 331 00:26:15,442 --> 00:26:17,410 1976. 332 00:26:19,079 --> 00:26:21,247 Right when the Sex Pistols came out. 333 00:26:21,347 --> 00:26:23,650 - Before. - Before? 334 00:26:25,618 --> 00:26:28,188 First of all, I can't believe that El Duce is only 32, though. 335 00:26:28,288 --> 00:26:30,723 How old are you going to be this birthday? 336 00:26:30,824 --> 00:26:34,894 - Same age as Jesus Christ. - As they were nailing him down. 337 00:26:35,895 --> 00:26:38,798 Hey, if he could be nailed, I'll be nailed. 338 00:26:38,898 --> 00:26:40,967 If Jesus could take it, I can take it. 339 00:26:41,901 --> 00:26:43,636 When did you start playing music? 340 00:26:44,704 --> 00:26:46,973 When I was about seven years old. 341 00:26:47,974 --> 00:26:49,776 And then I got really into the drums, 342 00:26:49,876 --> 00:26:55,081 and I'd listen to records that my mom and dad would play and stuff. 343 00:26:55,181 --> 00:26:57,550 When my dad was drunk and in a good mood, 344 00:26:57,650 --> 00:26:59,486 trying to fuck my mom, 345 00:26:59,586 --> 00:27:02,622 and they'd put on the Tijuana Brass or whatever, you know, 346 00:27:02,722 --> 00:27:06,926 and I'd listen to it, and I'd go like, "Wow, man, I dig that drum sound." 347 00:27:11,097 --> 00:27:13,199 He started the drums very early. 348 00:27:13,299 --> 00:27:16,369 I think he started drum lessons in 3rd or 4th grade, 349 00:27:16,469 --> 00:27:18,004 and he had so much native talent 350 00:27:18,104 --> 00:27:21,808 that he established himself very quickly in the drumming classes. 351 00:27:21,908 --> 00:27:24,644 The best student, essentially. 352 00:27:24,744 --> 00:27:27,280 And I think when he was in 6th grade, 353 00:27:27,380 --> 00:27:30,550 he joined this All City Youth Orchestra, you know, 354 00:27:30,650 --> 00:27:32,218 which was like the crème de la crème 355 00:27:32,318 --> 00:27:36,823 of all the musicians in Seattle, you know, the child musicians. 356 00:27:36,923 --> 00:27:39,192 So he played big concerts at the Symphony Hall 357 00:27:39,292 --> 00:27:40,860 with this youth orchestra. 358 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,729 Then he was later in drum corps, 359 00:27:42,829 --> 00:27:45,932 which is a marching kind of drum corps thing. 360 00:27:46,032 --> 00:27:49,202 He was always very good at that, he could read music very well, 361 00:27:49,302 --> 00:27:52,872 and he knew his way around the drums perfectly. 362 00:27:52,972 --> 00:27:56,543 What really motivated me was Jimmy Hendrix Experience. 363 00:27:56,643 --> 00:27:58,578 I wanted to play drums like Mitch Mitchell. 364 00:28:01,681 --> 00:28:05,752 Then I got a hip to The Who, and I wanted to play like Keith Moon. 365 00:28:07,954 --> 00:28:13,159 And then I got into jazz fusion music. 366 00:28:13,259 --> 00:28:16,362 Then I wanted to play like Billy Cobham. 367 00:28:17,163 --> 00:28:19,132 And then as time marched by, 368 00:28:19,232 --> 00:28:22,902 I just kind of combined all those styles all into my own style. 369 00:28:35,848 --> 00:28:38,918 He was into sort of funk and jazz rock and stuff like that 370 00:28:39,018 --> 00:28:41,588 which we were into, too, like Mahavishnu Orchestra 371 00:28:41,688 --> 00:28:44,123 and Chick Corea, "Return to Forever", 372 00:28:44,224 --> 00:28:47,227 and all that kind of fusion jazz rock that was going on at the time. 373 00:28:54,334 --> 00:28:58,304 If you all were into this kind of advanced Jazz fusion type of music 374 00:28:58,404 --> 00:29:00,974 that not many people were playing, kids your age anyway, 375 00:29:01,074 --> 00:29:06,479 how did you end up in sort of the punk rock and metal areas? 376 00:29:06,579 --> 00:29:09,949 Well, I guess in a way it was sort of a conscious sell-out. 377 00:29:11,150 --> 00:29:14,320 We were so into this fusion thing and we tried to play fusion, 378 00:29:14,420 --> 00:29:16,155 we worked up a lot of these original songs 379 00:29:16,256 --> 00:29:20,126 in the band before The Mentors, The Eldon Hoke Band, 380 00:29:20,226 --> 00:29:22,762 we played exclusively instrumental fusion. 381 00:29:22,862 --> 00:29:24,397 But there was just nowhere to play it. 382 00:29:24,497 --> 00:29:25,865 There was one club I remember 383 00:29:25,965 --> 00:29:28,635 that they advertised that they wanted that kind of stuff, 384 00:29:28,735 --> 00:29:30,446 and we went in there and tried to get a gig there. 385 00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:32,905 They wouldn't let us play there, it just was going nowhere, 386 00:29:33,006 --> 00:29:35,975 so it was sort of the kind of thing that we... 387 00:29:36,075 --> 00:29:39,245 I guess you'd consider it a conscious sell-out. 388 00:29:39,345 --> 00:29:42,915 Well, see, no one really understood our fusion music, 389 00:29:43,016 --> 00:29:46,786 so I said, "We got to entertain these clowns, 390 00:29:46,886 --> 00:29:49,889 "so let's sing some dirty lyrics. 391 00:29:49,989 --> 00:29:51,724 "Throw them in there." 392 00:29:51,824 --> 00:29:55,895 So we went from jazz fusion... 393 00:29:57,563 --> 00:29:59,232 to perversion, 394 00:29:59,332 --> 00:30:01,968 and then we just broke it down into easy rock 395 00:30:02,068 --> 00:30:04,504 that they could understand. 396 00:30:04,604 --> 00:30:06,773 - Punk rock. - Yeah, punk rock. 397 00:30:51,017 --> 00:30:53,953 The Dean of Students at Roosevelt High school. 398 00:30:55,221 --> 00:30:59,425 I used to cause a lot of vandalism, cos I hated everybody. 399 00:30:59,525 --> 00:31:03,262 I used to blow up toilets with M-80s, and... 400 00:31:03,363 --> 00:31:09,769 you know, write dirty drawings all over the walls and shoplift. 401 00:31:09,869 --> 00:31:13,573 I did everything, and set fires, I did all kinds of shit. 402 00:31:13,673 --> 00:31:18,378 Anything that raised hell, I would do it. 403 00:31:18,478 --> 00:31:21,681 You know, I used to urinate in jars 404 00:31:21,781 --> 00:31:24,717 and pour them on the radiators in the morning 405 00:31:24,817 --> 00:31:26,486 because it was freezing cold in Seattle, 406 00:31:26,586 --> 00:31:30,923 like it was 40 degrees outside, you're freezing cold. 407 00:31:31,023 --> 00:31:33,493 You come into the school, you want to warm up, 408 00:31:33,593 --> 00:31:39,565 and here is a radiator with urine smell pouring off of it. 409 00:31:39,665 --> 00:31:44,270 I used to shit in foil and stack it in the freezer 410 00:31:44,370 --> 00:31:46,973 and I'd take it to school, let it thaw out, 411 00:31:47,073 --> 00:31:49,809 and then I'd smear it all over the door knobs 412 00:31:49,909 --> 00:31:53,713 of all the classrooms, and vomit. 413 00:31:53,813 --> 00:31:56,082 I did all kinds of sick shit. 414 00:31:56,182 --> 00:32:00,653 I could go on for hours telling you all the sick shit I did. 415 00:32:00,753 --> 00:32:04,390 But I was just the number one nuisance to the school. 416 00:32:04,490 --> 00:32:10,263 So finally I'm in this language arts class, 417 00:32:10,363 --> 00:32:12,365 and the teacher gets this call, 418 00:32:12,465 --> 00:32:17,470 "Will you send El Duce down to the Dean of Students?" 419 00:32:17,570 --> 00:32:19,739 Oh, no! 420 00:32:19,839 --> 00:32:23,643 Some dipshit finked me off. 421 00:32:23,743 --> 00:32:25,945 So I go down there, 422 00:32:26,045 --> 00:32:30,316 and sure enough these two idiots that were working for me... 423 00:32:31,517 --> 00:32:34,754 So I go in there, acting all smooth and shit, 424 00:32:34,854 --> 00:32:36,656 and I sit down, the Dean of Students goes, 425 00:32:36,756 --> 00:32:39,158 "Alright, El Duce... 426 00:32:40,726 --> 00:32:43,963 "I have had reports that you are the one behind everything. 427 00:32:44,063 --> 00:32:46,766 - "You're the mentor." - And I go, "What?" 428 00:32:46,866 --> 00:32:50,069 He goes, "You're the mentor behind it all." 429 00:32:50,169 --> 00:32:53,840 I just drilled it in my head and I go, "Mentor? What do you mean, mentor?" 430 00:32:53,940 --> 00:32:55,818 And he goes, "Look it up here in the dictionary." 431 00:32:55,842 --> 00:32:58,177 And he throws the dictionary and he goes, "See that? 432 00:32:58,277 --> 00:33:00,012 "Read that to me." 433 00:33:00,046 --> 00:33:04,283 And I go, "Mentor, the one that everybody looks up to..." 434 00:33:04,383 --> 00:33:06,352 "You are the one who instructed all these guys 435 00:33:06,452 --> 00:33:10,122 "to shit and piss and throw garbage all over the school, 436 00:33:10,223 --> 00:33:11,858 "because you are the mentor." 437 00:33:11,958 --> 00:33:15,027 And he threw this big fit about me being the mentor. 438 00:33:15,127 --> 00:33:17,396 So I just said, "Fuck, that's the name of the band, 439 00:33:17,497 --> 00:33:21,033 "it's got to be The Mentors." 440 00:33:30,309 --> 00:33:32,311 ♪ Rockin' and a rollin' all the way... ♪ 441 00:33:39,418 --> 00:33:42,054 Do you guys fight a lot in the band? 442 00:33:42,154 --> 00:33:44,991 Um, me and Steve don't, 443 00:33:45,091 --> 00:33:47,927 but Sickie throws in the wrench every time he can. 444 00:33:56,002 --> 00:33:58,905 Boy, maybe you should write down some questions. 445 00:33:59,005 --> 00:34:01,340 Me and Sickie bicker probably the worst. 446 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,742 What do you bicker about? 447 00:34:02,842 --> 00:34:05,044 Little petty ass things, 448 00:34:05,144 --> 00:34:07,179 the more pettier, the more we bicker. 449 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,081 Do you fight about the music? 450 00:34:09,181 --> 00:34:12,318 No, we fight about whose beer is whose. 451 00:34:12,418 --> 00:34:15,321 - No, I said Miller's Special. - You owe me five bucks. 452 00:34:15,421 --> 00:34:17,323 Why do I owe you five bucks? 453 00:34:17,423 --> 00:34:19,492 Because I loaned you the money to get it. 454 00:34:21,661 --> 00:34:23,362 Wow, Miller's on sale. 455 00:34:28,935 --> 00:34:31,003 Do you have a car? Yeah, you came out in a car. 456 00:34:31,103 --> 00:34:33,072 After the gig, 457 00:34:33,172 --> 00:34:36,809 while Broy's waiting around getting paid, we can trunk up, 458 00:34:36,909 --> 00:34:38,578 so we just better get the six. 459 00:34:39,946 --> 00:34:42,081 Miller in cans, I hate that shit. 460 00:34:47,053 --> 00:34:48,788 You owe me five bucks. 461 00:34:48,888 --> 00:34:50,089 How do I owe you five? 462 00:34:50,189 --> 00:34:53,926 Because I paid for the fucking beer, and you owe me two beers 463 00:34:54,026 --> 00:34:56,495 and you wanted me to loan you the money. 464 00:34:56,596 --> 00:34:58,431 Broy owes you the money, he couldn't pay you, 465 00:34:58,531 --> 00:35:01,000 so I gave you five bucks out of that. 466 00:35:01,100 --> 00:35:02,435 Duh! 467 00:35:05,037 --> 00:35:06,839 Just take five dollars' worth. 468 00:35:06,939 --> 00:35:08,274 Yeah... 469 00:35:08,374 --> 00:35:10,977 - I want my $5 back. - That's the whole thing... 470 00:35:11,077 --> 00:35:13,613 I loaned you five dollars so he could get some beer. 471 00:35:13,713 --> 00:35:15,948 - Right. - Right, so you owe me 5 bucks. 472 00:35:16,048 --> 00:35:17,383 No, you get your two beers. 473 00:35:17,483 --> 00:35:18,718 No, you owe me five dollars. 474 00:35:18,818 --> 00:35:20,529 I owe you five bucks but if you want to get... 475 00:35:20,553 --> 00:35:22,588 And two beers! 476 00:35:22,688 --> 00:35:25,368 - Five dollars and two beers. - It's not that hard to figure it out. 477 00:35:25,424 --> 00:35:29,261 We've got this one clown, Ed Danky, in our band 478 00:35:29,362 --> 00:35:31,964 that's sort of in the band and sort of not in the band. 479 00:35:32,064 --> 00:35:35,568 I think Mr. Danky has something to say. 480 00:35:35,668 --> 00:35:36,736 We're over here, 481 00:35:36,836 --> 00:35:40,673 and this is Sneaky Spermshooter down here on the ground. 482 00:35:40,773 --> 00:35:42,675 - Time to rock. - It's time to rock? 483 00:35:42,775 --> 00:35:44,443 We're ready to blow. 484 00:35:44,543 --> 00:35:47,747 - Ready to blow? - Yeah, heavy rock is coming up. 485 00:35:47,847 --> 00:35:49,949 He doesn't believe in the Four F club, 486 00:35:50,049 --> 00:35:52,451 and, you know, it doesn't work. 487 00:35:52,551 --> 00:35:54,887 How long have you known El Duce? 488 00:35:54,987 --> 00:36:01,027 Oh, I've known the scumbag about, oh, 10 grueling years. 489 00:36:01,127 --> 00:36:04,196 In what capacity have you worked with him? 490 00:36:04,296 --> 00:36:07,299 I do a little background vocals for them sometimes, 491 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,870 and I jam with the guys all the time, and you know, 492 00:36:10,970 --> 00:36:14,373 I guess I'm like the Billy Preston of The Mentors. 493 00:36:14,473 --> 00:36:18,110 I remember you at that bar when you saw that. 494 00:36:18,210 --> 00:36:20,479 I saw this, and I went apeshit. 495 00:36:20,579 --> 00:36:25,484 A lot of the songs are sex oriented. Were they back then? 496 00:36:26,385 --> 00:36:27,620 Uh, yeah. 497 00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:30,623 Yeah, we kind of hit upon that as a gimmick. 498 00:36:30,723 --> 00:36:31,957 See, El Duce was... 499 00:36:32,058 --> 00:36:35,394 The one thing he was known for 500 00:36:35,494 --> 00:36:38,631 when we going to junior high was, 501 00:36:38,731 --> 00:36:41,801 he was known as the guy who had all the pornography. 502 00:36:41,901 --> 00:36:44,804 His dad was a porno collector, 503 00:36:44,904 --> 00:36:48,441 and his dad tried to hide this porno from El Duce. 504 00:36:48,541 --> 00:36:51,153 He had this little work room that was all locked up in the basement, 505 00:36:51,177 --> 00:36:52,621 but El Duce knew how to pick the lock, 506 00:36:52,645 --> 00:36:54,823 and he'd go down there while his dad and mum were off at work, 507 00:36:54,847 --> 00:36:57,616 and he'd have his buddies come over and he'd show them all the porn, 508 00:36:57,717 --> 00:36:59,418 and he'd give some of the magazines away. 509 00:36:59,518 --> 00:37:02,922 So, El Duce had a real reputation as being sort of porn-meister. 510 00:37:03,022 --> 00:37:07,126 And El Duce would do this drum solo with these dildos he bought, 511 00:37:07,226 --> 00:37:09,495 these, you know, like, about 14-inch dildos 512 00:37:09,595 --> 00:37:12,865 he bought down at the porno store, 513 00:37:12,965 --> 00:37:16,368 and it was just a big gimmick thing, you know, I guess. 514 00:37:16,469 --> 00:37:18,146 I don't know if we thought of it like that, 515 00:37:18,170 --> 00:37:19,939 but that was basically how it wound up. 516 00:37:29,782 --> 00:37:31,617 ♪ I got a donkey dick 517 00:37:31,717 --> 00:37:33,452 ♪ It will make you sick 518 00:37:33,552 --> 00:37:35,154 ♪ I got a donkey dick 519 00:37:35,254 --> 00:37:36,922 ♪ It's big and thick ♪ 520 00:37:37,022 --> 00:37:38,924 Not all of our stuff is pornographic. 521 00:37:39,024 --> 00:37:43,729 I mean if you listen to it carefully, you know, the total catalogue, 522 00:37:43,829 --> 00:37:45,698 now I haven't tabulated it all, 523 00:37:45,798 --> 00:37:51,103 but I'd say maybe 50% is not wholly concerned with sex. 524 00:37:51,203 --> 00:37:53,081 First thing we do when we wake up in the morning 525 00:37:53,105 --> 00:37:54,774 - is take a shower... - No. 526 00:37:54,874 --> 00:37:57,576 - And put on a fresh hood. - Jack off! 527 00:37:59,145 --> 00:38:00,746 This hood smells like Sickie, though. 528 00:38:00,846 --> 00:38:02,414 - I know. - Disgusting. 529 00:38:02,515 --> 00:38:04,617 That's what you get for putting on his hood. 530 00:38:04,717 --> 00:38:06,252 It's not a fresh hood. 531 00:38:06,352 --> 00:38:09,088 - Why the hoods? - That was El Duce's idea. 532 00:38:09,188 --> 00:38:11,957 He had this idea when we put together The Mentors, 533 00:38:12,057 --> 00:38:13,726 that they'd have this very strong image. 534 00:38:13,826 --> 00:38:15,828 I saw it in the horror films 535 00:38:15,928 --> 00:38:18,764 and I go, "That's what we'll do, we'll all wear execution hoods." 536 00:38:18,864 --> 00:38:22,968 You see, I saw Kiss do their thing. 537 00:38:23,068 --> 00:38:26,505 I go, "We got to be as outrageous as Kiss." 538 00:38:26,605 --> 00:38:30,943 El Duce told me that he scheduled their first tour 539 00:38:31,043 --> 00:38:34,847 by calling around people and telling them 540 00:38:34,947 --> 00:38:41,821 that he had the most incredible Kiss cover band that there was, 541 00:38:41,921 --> 00:38:45,090 and then he took just the Kiss album, 542 00:38:45,191 --> 00:38:48,494 like, he taped a compilation of Kiss records 543 00:38:48,594 --> 00:38:51,797 and sent them as a demo tape out to people, 544 00:38:51,897 --> 00:38:55,000 and then, like... You know, that was his press kit, 545 00:38:55,100 --> 00:38:57,336 it was this demo tape that was just Kiss, and he's like, 546 00:38:57,436 --> 00:39:01,540 "We're one of the most incredible Kiss simulations that has ever been." 547 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,276 - And then they show up and... - Play El Duce! 548 00:39:04,376 --> 00:39:06,345 And they're the fucking... they're The Mentors. 549 00:39:21,627 --> 00:39:24,196 How do you describe Mentors music? 550 00:39:24,296 --> 00:39:29,134 - What is it to you? - Uh, male chauvinism rock. 551 00:39:29,235 --> 00:39:33,305 ♪ All women are insane 552 00:39:34,807 --> 00:39:38,477 ♪ Some were born with no brain 553 00:39:40,546 --> 00:39:44,283 ♪ Bitch and cuss on the rag 554 00:39:46,185 --> 00:39:49,588 ♪ They are one hell of a drag 555 00:39:51,790 --> 00:39:55,127 ♪ If everything don't go their way 556 00:39:57,363 --> 00:40:01,133 ♪ They must fuck and suck me for their pay 557 00:40:02,935 --> 00:40:06,805 ♪ Males are superior 558 00:40:08,607 --> 00:40:13,312 ♪ Females are inferior ♪ 559 00:40:13,412 --> 00:40:16,181 Do you think Mentors music is a joke? 560 00:40:16,282 --> 00:40:19,251 No, it's a form of life. 561 00:40:19,351 --> 00:40:23,522 I just speak about what's on my mind and what I believe. 562 00:40:23,622 --> 00:40:26,558 So when did the ideology emerge in him? 563 00:40:27,826 --> 00:40:29,929 Uh, the whole... 564 00:40:30,029 --> 00:40:32,932 become fully flowered you mean? 565 00:40:33,032 --> 00:40:35,134 It was probably after The Mentors had been together 566 00:40:35,234 --> 00:40:39,138 for about two or three years, when it really... 567 00:40:39,238 --> 00:40:41,540 you know, became very monolithic like that. 568 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,443 It was just sort of a slow evolution. 569 00:40:44,543 --> 00:40:47,212 - What about "Golden Showers"? - Oh, yeah. 570 00:40:47,313 --> 00:40:50,816 See, I caught this one girl cheating on me. 571 00:40:50,916 --> 00:40:53,052 She goes, "He was so cute, can you blame me?" 572 00:40:53,152 --> 00:40:56,255 and I go, "Yeah, I can. I'm going to have to give you the treatment." 573 00:40:56,355 --> 00:40:59,491 She goes, "Whatever you want, I love you... 574 00:40:59,591 --> 00:41:01,660 "Oh, I love you." 575 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,663 I said, "All right, prove your love." 576 00:41:32,391 --> 00:41:34,393 Now Mr. Chairman, one point we've already made, 577 00:41:34,493 --> 00:41:37,329 the material which has caused the concern is new and different. 578 00:41:37,429 --> 00:41:41,400 It's not just a continuation of controversies of past generations. 579 00:41:41,500 --> 00:41:46,171 To illustrate this point, we would like to show a slide presentation. 580 00:41:46,271 --> 00:41:48,083 The purpose of this presentation is to acquaint you 581 00:41:48,107 --> 00:41:50,309 with the type of material that is in question. 582 00:41:50,409 --> 00:41:52,945 I will be covering the themes of violence and sexuality. 583 00:41:53,045 --> 00:41:55,581 Bear in mind that what you are about to see and hear 584 00:41:55,681 --> 00:41:59,218 is a small sample of the abundant material available today. 585 00:41:59,318 --> 00:42:02,421 Ozzy Osborne, on his first solo album shown here, 586 00:42:02,521 --> 00:42:04,490 sings a song called "Suicide Solution". 587 00:42:04,590 --> 00:42:06,625 Ozzy insists that he in no way 588 00:42:06,725 --> 00:42:09,294 encourages suicidal behavior in young people, 589 00:42:09,395 --> 00:42:12,297 and yet he appears in photographs such as these. 590 00:42:14,967 --> 00:42:17,312 For those of you who can't make that out because of the lights, 591 00:42:17,336 --> 00:42:20,606 it's a picture of Ozzy with a gun barrel stuck into his mouth. 592 00:42:44,730 --> 00:42:46,498 My apologies. 593 00:42:46,598 --> 00:42:48,967 How bad can it get? The list is endless. 594 00:42:49,068 --> 00:42:54,273 This album was released just recently by a band called The Mentors. 595 00:42:54,373 --> 00:42:57,543 It was released on the label Enigma Records, 596 00:42:57,643 --> 00:43:01,080 which also launched Mötley Crüe's career. 597 00:43:01,180 --> 00:43:02,614 The album includes songs like 598 00:43:02,714 --> 00:43:05,751 "Four F Club: Find Her, Feel Her, Fuck Her And Forget Her", 599 00:43:05,851 --> 00:43:09,588 "Free Fix For A Fuck", "Clap Queen", "My Erection is Over", 600 00:43:09,688 --> 00:43:12,591 and the song "Golden Showers" which says these words, 601 00:43:12,691 --> 00:43:15,160 "Listen you little slut, do as you're told, 602 00:43:15,260 --> 00:43:17,463 "come with Daddy for me to pour the gold. 603 00:43:17,563 --> 00:43:20,866 "Golden showers, all through my excrements you shall roam, 604 00:43:20,966 --> 00:43:23,102 "bend up and smell my anal vapor, 605 00:43:23,202 --> 00:43:25,137 "your face is my toilet paper, 606 00:43:25,237 --> 00:43:27,606 "on your face I leave a shit tower, 607 00:43:27,706 --> 00:43:29,475 "golden showers." 608 00:43:29,575 --> 00:43:31,615 Mr. Chairman that concludes my remarks, I thank you. 609 00:43:31,677 --> 00:43:34,246 I'm sorry your time has expired. 610 00:43:36,348 --> 00:43:38,584 Thanks to the PMRC, 611 00:43:38,684 --> 00:43:41,520 we tripled our sales, 612 00:43:41,620 --> 00:43:44,022 we're like a nothing band for a while, 613 00:43:44,123 --> 00:43:47,459 then the PMRC came up there and bitched about us, 614 00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:49,328 next thing you know our records skyrocketed. 615 00:43:49,428 --> 00:43:51,697 It's all just bullshit. 616 00:43:51,797 --> 00:43:55,334 I mean, he's successful because he gets a reaction. 617 00:43:55,434 --> 00:43:57,870 It's like there's a need for that in society, 618 00:43:57,970 --> 00:44:00,572 otherwise it's just boring and dull. 619 00:44:00,672 --> 00:44:03,242 I mean, people... you know, they get all upset 620 00:44:03,342 --> 00:44:04,443 and they go to the Senate, 621 00:44:04,543 --> 00:44:06,612 and they do all this protesting and all that stuff 622 00:44:06,712 --> 00:44:08,480 that just hypes his trip. 623 00:44:08,580 --> 00:44:10,048 The records start selling more, 624 00:44:10,149 --> 00:44:11,589 and I mean, mean they're doing the... 625 00:44:11,650 --> 00:44:13,452 They're giving him just what he wants. 626 00:44:13,552 --> 00:44:15,554 And I got to give him a lot of credit. 627 00:44:15,654 --> 00:44:17,156 Man, he gets away with it. 628 00:44:17,256 --> 00:44:20,425 He's exactly... he's a total success in himself. 629 00:44:32,137 --> 00:44:33,138 El Duce! 630 00:44:45,751 --> 00:44:49,121 What kind of clubs were you playing before the PMRC? 631 00:44:52,057 --> 00:44:54,092 Holes in the wall, dives, 632 00:44:54,193 --> 00:44:56,261 somebody's backyard, 633 00:44:56,361 --> 00:44:58,463 but when the PMRC... 634 00:45:00,933 --> 00:45:02,334 When they snapped into action, 635 00:45:02,434 --> 00:45:05,370 man, we started playing big halls, auditoriums. 636 00:45:05,470 --> 00:45:09,208 ♪ Bend up and smell my anal vapor 637 00:45:09,308 --> 00:45:12,778 ♪ Your face is my toilet paper 638 00:45:13,812 --> 00:45:16,415 ♪ Golden shower... ♪ 639 00:45:18,383 --> 00:45:20,061 What kind of bands did you play with? 640 00:45:20,085 --> 00:45:21,486 Well, we started off playing 641 00:45:21,587 --> 00:45:24,790 with just everybody's local brother's band, you know. 642 00:45:24,890 --> 00:45:28,060 And then once the PMRC kicked into action, 643 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,195 we started playing with big groups, 644 00:45:30,295 --> 00:45:35,567 like Metal Church, Montrose, Ronnie Montrose, Plasmatics. 645 00:45:35,667 --> 00:45:38,437 Probably the biggest bands we played with is, like, Fear 646 00:45:38,537 --> 00:45:40,606 and Killing Joke, Black Flag. 647 00:45:40,706 --> 00:45:44,977 What's the best road experience you ever had with The Mentors? 648 00:45:45,077 --> 00:45:47,412 Probably with Saint Vitus. 649 00:45:49,147 --> 00:45:53,185 I got laid about seven times on that tour. 650 00:46:14,906 --> 00:46:18,010 If you just look at LA, you know, the past few years, 651 00:46:18,110 --> 00:46:20,445 there's a huge explosion of metal bands 652 00:46:20,545 --> 00:46:22,614 that are coming out and being very popular, 653 00:46:22,714 --> 00:46:26,218 Poison and you know, whoever else, Warrant. 654 00:46:26,318 --> 00:46:30,289 But I think these guys are extremely calculated. 655 00:46:30,389 --> 00:46:33,358 First of all, they're part of a very big money-making machine. 656 00:46:33,458 --> 00:46:35,694 Any time you're in that... your league, 657 00:46:35,794 --> 00:46:37,596 you're talking: a big conglomerate 658 00:46:37,696 --> 00:46:39,898 putting a lot of money into you, 659 00:46:39,998 --> 00:46:43,335 expecting you to behave professionally as far as not blowing shows, 660 00:46:43,435 --> 00:46:45,437 you know, showing up on time, 661 00:46:45,537 --> 00:46:48,006 producing a record on time, things of that nature. 662 00:46:48,106 --> 00:46:51,843 This band, you know, Mentors is not set up for that at all. 663 00:46:51,943 --> 00:46:56,481 I'm not sure if people will listen to us in 100 years. 664 00:46:58,183 --> 00:46:59,584 I think they might... 665 00:47:01,453 --> 00:47:03,689 as opposed to a band that's somewhat disposable, 666 00:47:03,789 --> 00:47:06,158 enjoyable music, quality music, 667 00:47:06,258 --> 00:47:10,262 but yet easily replaced. 668 00:47:10,362 --> 00:47:12,831 So you see Mentor's music as what? 669 00:47:12,931 --> 00:47:15,067 As art, I would consider it art 670 00:47:15,167 --> 00:47:20,706 to the extent where most music that's sold is less art, 671 00:47:20,806 --> 00:47:23,008 and more just product, it's a commercial product. 672 00:47:23,108 --> 00:47:25,277 What constitutes art to you? 673 00:47:26,978 --> 00:47:30,949 I think art has got... 674 00:47:31,049 --> 00:47:34,319 True art is something that is independent of time. 675 00:47:36,688 --> 00:47:37,989 Uh... 676 00:47:38,090 --> 00:47:42,361 I would say it deals with lasting human themes 677 00:47:42,461 --> 00:47:47,532 that are, again, time-independent to an extent. 678 00:47:47,632 --> 00:47:49,868 They sign a lot of these glam rock bands, 679 00:47:49,968 --> 00:47:51,503 tens of thousands of these bands 680 00:47:51,603 --> 00:47:55,040 that all look the same, all sound the same, 681 00:47:55,140 --> 00:47:57,209 you can't tell one band from the other. 682 00:47:57,309 --> 00:48:01,246 But you could always tell The Mentors, cos we stand out. 683 00:48:01,346 --> 00:48:04,516 We're tired of sissy groups like Mötley Crüe 684 00:48:04,616 --> 00:48:06,818 and all this sissy stuff. 685 00:48:06,918 --> 00:48:07,986 We want rape rock. 686 00:48:08,086 --> 00:48:10,722 Sneaky, what do you think of The Beatles? 687 00:48:10,822 --> 00:48:13,358 - Who? - The Beatles. 688 00:48:13,458 --> 00:48:14,459 They don't rock. 689 00:48:20,899 --> 00:48:22,667 ♪ You 690 00:48:22,768 --> 00:48:23,969 ♪ Are 691 00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:25,837 ♪ My 692 00:48:25,937 --> 00:48:27,472 ♪ Sex slave ♪ 693 00:48:27,572 --> 00:48:31,042 They could say, "Bon Jovi's really on an up move," 694 00:48:31,143 --> 00:48:34,780 you know whatever, I don't care if he goes up or down. 695 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,617 I've got my lyrics, and if they don't like it, 696 00:48:38,717 --> 00:48:41,286 they can eat shit out of my ass. 697 00:48:41,386 --> 00:48:43,855 I want to ask you something. 698 00:48:43,955 --> 00:48:46,491 What does your mother think about you? Huh? 699 00:48:48,059 --> 00:48:50,562 Was El Duce... 700 00:48:50,662 --> 00:48:54,099 Early on was he a sort of a teddy bear of a guy 701 00:48:54,199 --> 00:48:57,836 or was he mean, was he good? I mean, he was obviously your friend. 702 00:48:57,936 --> 00:48:59,137 Yeah. 703 00:48:59,237 --> 00:49:00,705 Um... 704 00:49:00,806 --> 00:49:03,442 I wouldn't call him Mr. Nice Guy. 705 00:49:03,542 --> 00:49:06,178 He had a lot of weird aspects to his personality. 706 00:49:06,278 --> 00:49:07,712 He was... 707 00:49:08,713 --> 00:49:11,583 See, he was from a family of four, OK? 708 00:49:11,683 --> 00:49:17,222 As far as other kids. He had two sisters and one brother. 709 00:49:17,322 --> 00:49:21,326 Now, one brother and one sister were older than he was, 710 00:49:21,426 --> 00:49:23,228 and they were very good students, 711 00:49:23,328 --> 00:49:26,164 and his father is... or was 712 00:49:26,264 --> 00:49:30,936 a highly paid, high-up in the bureaucracy, engineer at Boeing. 713 00:49:31,036 --> 00:49:32,904 He was an aeronautical engineer. 714 00:49:33,004 --> 00:49:35,273 And so there was a certain amount of expectation 715 00:49:35,373 --> 00:49:39,444 put on El Duce to follow in the good student footsteps 716 00:49:39,544 --> 00:49:40,879 of these two elder siblings. 717 00:49:40,979 --> 00:49:45,050 But he just wasn't cut out for that kind of thing and he... 718 00:49:45,150 --> 00:49:48,620 You know, I think a couple of times he almost got put back a grade, 719 00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:53,158 and that kind of scarred his personality to a certain extent. 720 00:49:53,258 --> 00:49:54,593 Was, um... 721 00:49:54,693 --> 00:49:57,596 As a kid or a teenager was El Duce lazy? 722 00:49:57,696 --> 00:49:58,997 Extremely. 723 00:49:59,998 --> 00:50:01,833 Extremely lazy. 724 00:50:03,068 --> 00:50:04,769 Did he... Was he... 725 00:50:04,870 --> 00:50:06,938 Always since birth. 726 00:50:07,038 --> 00:50:09,841 - Dramatically different than... - Since birth he was... 727 00:50:09,941 --> 00:50:12,611 And he's one of those people that works harder at not working. 728 00:50:12,711 --> 00:50:14,513 Like if he would... You know what I'm saying? 729 00:50:14,613 --> 00:50:17,115 All these lengths to avoid doing the simple task, 730 00:50:17,215 --> 00:50:18,917 if he would have done the simple task, 731 00:50:19,017 --> 00:50:20,895 he wouldn't have to go to all this other bullshit, 732 00:50:20,919 --> 00:50:22,420 you know what I mean? 733 00:50:22,521 --> 00:50:23,588 Does that make sense? 734 00:50:23,688 --> 00:50:26,925 Now, I don't give a damn about books... 735 00:50:28,293 --> 00:50:31,329 because I don't care what year George Washington flipped a coin 736 00:50:31,429 --> 00:50:34,299 across the Delaware River or whatever, 737 00:50:34,399 --> 00:50:38,270 I'll find that out later, when I'm damn well ready. 738 00:50:38,370 --> 00:50:40,505 So how did he become such a good drummer? 739 00:50:40,605 --> 00:50:44,175 It was the one thing that he clung on too that he couldn't... 740 00:50:44,276 --> 00:50:46,676 I think also he could take out a lot of anger on those drums. 741 00:50:47,546 --> 00:50:49,014 A lot of anger towards my father. 742 00:50:49,114 --> 00:50:50,815 You know what? 743 00:50:50,916 --> 00:50:55,220 That's me as little bastard right there. 744 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,324 I'm going like, "Who's going to fuck up my life, 745 00:50:59,424 --> 00:51:02,093 "then make me the weirdo that I is right now?" 746 00:51:02,193 --> 00:51:05,630 And I tells myself, "I ain't fucked up, I ain't weird, I ain't nothing." 747 00:51:05,730 --> 00:51:07,732 What's your family like? 748 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,635 Square. 749 00:51:10,735 --> 00:51:13,204 My dad designed bombs. 750 00:51:17,008 --> 00:51:19,611 He designed part of the Apollo 11... 751 00:51:21,713 --> 00:51:23,381 that landed on the moon. 752 00:51:24,816 --> 00:51:26,585 What about your mother? 753 00:51:26,685 --> 00:51:29,521 She was a secretary. 754 00:51:29,621 --> 00:51:31,590 What was your childhood like, growing up? 755 00:51:31,690 --> 00:51:34,292 Oh, my dad beat me all the time. 756 00:51:34,392 --> 00:51:36,227 He got a thrill out of it, boy. 757 00:51:36,328 --> 00:51:38,763 His eyes would light up when he cracked that whip. 758 00:51:38,863 --> 00:51:40,665 Bam! 759 00:51:41,466 --> 00:51:43,835 And I'd go like, "Yow!" 760 00:51:43,935 --> 00:51:47,539 The more I yelled, the more he got a turn-on. 761 00:51:47,639 --> 00:51:49,140 And your mother? 762 00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:51,676 Well, she just closed her ears and closed her eyes and said, 763 00:51:51,776 --> 00:51:54,446 "It's not real, it's not real." 764 00:51:54,546 --> 00:51:56,247 I said, "It is real." 765 00:51:57,716 --> 00:52:00,485 And I started the ball rolling with my dad, 766 00:52:00,585 --> 00:52:04,556 because of my grade card. 767 00:52:06,024 --> 00:52:12,097 I got nothing but flunks and bad grades when I was a kid. 768 00:52:13,598 --> 00:52:16,568 He goes, "Why aren't you as smart as your brother and sister?" 769 00:52:16,668 --> 00:52:21,239 And I said, "Well, because I'm smarter. I do not submit." 770 00:52:22,641 --> 00:52:24,441 I mean, that's what I was thinking in my head. 771 00:52:24,509 --> 00:52:27,512 I didn't tell my dad that, but that's what I was thinking. 772 00:52:27,612 --> 00:52:30,281 I do not submit to people that order me around. 773 00:52:30,382 --> 00:52:32,283 He says his dad... 774 00:52:32,384 --> 00:52:34,352 he says your dad beat him when he was a kid. 775 00:52:34,452 --> 00:52:36,187 Were you aware of that? 776 00:52:36,287 --> 00:52:38,923 He spanked him really hard with a paddle, yeah. 777 00:52:39,024 --> 00:52:43,294 He did that to me, too. We feared our father like Hitler. 778 00:52:43,395 --> 00:52:44,896 We didn't respect him. 779 00:52:44,996 --> 00:52:47,666 It wasn't healthy respect, it was downright fear. 780 00:52:47,766 --> 00:52:51,636 I mean, this is what my dad used to do there. 781 00:52:51,736 --> 00:52:56,508 He drilled holes like that big around in his paddle... 782 00:52:58,009 --> 00:53:00,412 to get a good swing on it. 783 00:53:00,512 --> 00:53:02,580 Bam! And crack my ass. 784 00:53:02,681 --> 00:53:07,318 He'd beat me an average of about twice a week 785 00:53:07,419 --> 00:53:11,322 for not doing this, not mowing the lawn right, 786 00:53:11,423 --> 00:53:13,892 this or that, I'm a retarded person, you know, 787 00:53:13,992 --> 00:53:17,095 any excuse he could find to beat me, he would beat me. 788 00:53:17,195 --> 00:53:19,497 Do you think your dad feels responsible in some way? 789 00:53:19,597 --> 00:53:21,299 No. 790 00:53:21,399 --> 00:53:26,705 I think he absolved himself of all of it. 791 00:53:26,805 --> 00:53:29,708 Because, you know, my dad's a sicko. 792 00:53:29,808 --> 00:53:35,680 He designed bombs for the Vietnam War 793 00:53:35,780 --> 00:53:38,450 that tortured and killed people. 794 00:53:38,550 --> 00:53:42,454 He helped design what they called a Bouncing Napalm Bomb, 795 00:53:42,554 --> 00:53:45,523 which is a spinning bomb. 796 00:53:45,623 --> 00:53:47,358 They shoot it out of a B-52, 797 00:53:47,459 --> 00:53:50,762 and it goes down right through the tree line, 798 00:53:50,862 --> 00:53:54,733 and it spins and drops off canisters of napalm. 799 00:53:54,833 --> 00:53:57,435 So for a five-mile stretch, 800 00:53:57,535 --> 00:53:59,938 it blows like in "Apocalypse Now". 801 00:54:00,038 --> 00:54:03,141 My dad designed that motherfucker. 802 00:54:03,241 --> 00:54:05,410 El's just like, you know... 803 00:54:06,611 --> 00:54:09,447 He's everything that is my dad's worst nightmare, 804 00:54:09,547 --> 00:54:12,083 and that's kind of great, too. 805 00:54:12,183 --> 00:54:15,520 My dad needs that karma. 806 00:54:15,620 --> 00:54:17,288 He does. 807 00:54:22,527 --> 00:54:27,132 My dad is demented, sick, warped and retarded. 808 00:54:27,232 --> 00:54:28,933 I'm normal. 809 00:54:30,869 --> 00:54:32,704 So, you do love your family? 810 00:54:32,804 --> 00:54:34,706 Yeah, I love my family. 811 00:54:34,806 --> 00:54:36,374 Who doesn't? 812 00:54:36,474 --> 00:54:38,276 Do you go home at Christmas? 813 00:54:38,376 --> 00:54:42,413 Nope, not this year, because my dad told me to get lost and never come back, 814 00:54:42,514 --> 00:54:46,417 and I said, "You got your wish. 815 00:54:47,819 --> 00:54:50,388 "I'm going to dance on your grave when you get cancer!" 816 00:54:50,488 --> 00:54:51,823 Bleurgh! 817 00:55:18,917 --> 00:55:21,486 Alright, come on. Since you're helping me move it. 818 00:55:21,586 --> 00:55:23,888 Yeah, one more thing to get up. 819 00:55:23,988 --> 00:55:26,391 Wait till you see my drum set! 820 00:55:36,968 --> 00:55:38,703 Hey, I didn't see you on... 821 00:55:38,803 --> 00:55:40,505 I missed you on "General High School". 822 00:55:40,605 --> 00:55:42,640 Oh, I'm going to be on on August 7th. 823 00:55:42,740 --> 00:55:46,311 - August 7th. - Yeah, one more show. 824 00:55:46,411 --> 00:55:48,213 What are you bringing to set the pace? 825 00:55:48,313 --> 00:55:53,418 A Walkman with about 200 cassettes and an amplifier 826 00:55:53,518 --> 00:55:57,055 and a couple of pairs of socks and underwear, and that's it. 827 00:55:57,155 --> 00:56:00,158 Hey, look at that, there's plenty of room in here. 828 00:56:03,461 --> 00:56:05,630 You can fit how many people in here with the equipment? 829 00:56:05,730 --> 00:56:08,399 We're going to take six people, and the amps back there, 830 00:56:08,499 --> 00:56:10,068 and the drums on top of the amps, 831 00:56:10,168 --> 00:56:11,568 so it looks like pretty good shape. 832 00:56:11,603 --> 00:56:14,339 I think we've got enough room for everybody. 833 00:56:14,439 --> 00:56:16,307 What's the farthest East you go? 834 00:56:16,407 --> 00:56:18,209 New York City. 835 00:56:19,544 --> 00:56:21,104 Where are you going to play in New York? 836 00:56:21,145 --> 00:56:23,081 - The Ritz. - Really? 837 00:56:26,851 --> 00:56:28,086 Yeah. 838 00:56:36,728 --> 00:56:37,896 No. 839 00:56:41,900 --> 00:56:43,635 No, I think this one's under control. 840 00:56:44,836 --> 00:56:47,805 - Are those tools? - I got a phone number for tools. 841 00:56:47,906 --> 00:56:50,909 - Here's your hood, Sneaky. - Yeesh! 842 00:56:51,009 --> 00:56:53,878 I got a phone number for a guy that's really good. 843 00:56:53,978 --> 00:56:55,380 Don't leave home without it. 844 00:57:02,620 --> 00:57:03,788 So everything else you have 845 00:57:03,888 --> 00:57:06,491 you're just going to leave here when you leave the road huh? 846 00:57:06,591 --> 00:57:08,826 Yeah, more or less. 847 00:57:10,128 --> 00:57:12,430 Can we get... You think... 848 00:57:12,530 --> 00:57:15,033 you think Sneaky Spermshooter will throw it all away 849 00:57:15,133 --> 00:57:16,834 when he realizes you left without him? 850 00:57:16,935 --> 00:57:18,636 Oh, yeah, he's going to be damn pissed. 851 00:57:18,736 --> 00:57:22,040 So you just sneak in and tell him you are just taking the stuff for a minute, 852 00:57:22,140 --> 00:57:25,510 - and you see him tomorrow, huh? - Yeah. 853 00:57:25,610 --> 00:57:27,178 But you guys are gonna be in St. Louis 854 00:57:27,278 --> 00:57:29,247 - and he's gonna be here, huh? - Right. 855 00:57:45,163 --> 00:57:49,167 I'm sitting there looking at him, sitting out in the electric car waiting on... 856 00:57:59,677 --> 00:58:01,813 So, uh... 857 00:58:03,381 --> 00:58:05,450 we were going to kick him out of the band anyway 858 00:58:05,550 --> 00:58:12,490 right before the tour, this last tour we did with the Revolting Cocks, 859 00:58:12,590 --> 00:58:15,393 but we didn't know how we were going to tell him. 860 00:58:15,493 --> 00:58:16,527 And then, uh... 861 00:58:18,596 --> 00:58:22,200 luckily he was so gone towards the end, 862 00:58:22,300 --> 00:58:25,103 that he just up and died, killed himself, 863 00:58:25,203 --> 00:58:29,307 shooting up dope, speedballs, and... 864 00:58:31,009 --> 00:58:34,045 so that was a big load off our shoulders. 865 00:58:34,712 --> 00:58:36,748 I liked that guy, Ed. 866 00:58:36,848 --> 00:58:38,726 Well, I didn't really like Ed. He was kind of a... 867 00:58:38,750 --> 00:58:40,118 Sneaky Spermshooter, you know? 868 00:58:40,218 --> 00:58:42,353 - Yeah, he's dead. - He's not dead, is he? 869 00:58:42,453 --> 00:58:44,155 - Swear to God, he's dead. - No way. 870 00:58:44,255 --> 00:58:45,323 He's dead. 871 00:58:45,423 --> 00:58:46,758 - You swear? - I swear to God. 872 00:58:46,858 --> 00:58:48,926 - Who told you that, Ed? - I know he's dead. 873 00:58:49,027 --> 00:58:51,305 - How do you know he's dead? - Ed didn't tell me he's dead, no. 874 00:58:51,329 --> 00:58:54,399 Did you feel, I know you kind of skirted around, so... 875 00:58:54,499 --> 00:58:57,235 Well, see, I was bummed out because I lost my pad. 876 00:58:57,335 --> 00:59:01,706 And I lost a lot of clothes, my color TV, 877 00:59:01,806 --> 00:59:05,309 my espresso coffee maker, 878 00:59:05,410 --> 00:59:07,845 my popcorn, hot air popcorn popper. 879 00:59:07,945 --> 00:59:10,214 I don't wish that on anybody, 880 00:59:10,314 --> 00:59:13,851 but, you know, he was a little bit of a... 881 00:59:18,056 --> 00:59:20,792 I mean, if he's dead, he was an alright guy. 882 01:00:32,630 --> 01:00:34,265 The way the band's set up, 883 01:00:34,365 --> 01:00:38,736 there's so much infighting going on, so much personal stuff, 884 01:00:38,836 --> 01:00:42,373 that I don't think the band has got what it takes 885 01:00:42,473 --> 01:00:45,443 to totally go to the top. 886 01:00:45,543 --> 01:00:47,545 I just don't see that happening. 887 01:00:48,646 --> 01:00:51,449 And so what drives you then 888 01:00:51,549 --> 01:00:53,985 is just your enjoyment of playing music, 889 01:00:54,085 --> 01:00:56,354 you know, just doing it, 890 01:00:56,454 --> 01:01:00,458 and you have to enjoy doing it just for the sake of doing it. 891 01:01:10,635 --> 01:01:13,738 ♪ Heterosexuals have the right to rock 892 01:01:17,141 --> 01:01:19,911 ♪ Heterosexuals have the right to rock... ♪ 893 01:01:54,779 --> 01:01:59,083 He comes down pretty hard and is pretty anti-homosexual 894 01:01:59,183 --> 01:02:02,153 and... very terrible things. 895 01:02:02,253 --> 01:02:04,155 Well, you got to understand, 896 01:02:04,255 --> 01:02:07,358 the appeal of The Mentors in a lot of ways is very juvenile, 897 01:02:07,458 --> 01:02:10,695 and it's sort of a male bonding thing, 898 01:02:10,795 --> 01:02:18,436 a thing that 16-year-olds can get together and listen to 899 01:02:18,536 --> 01:02:20,905 and set themselves apart from all their friends 900 01:02:21,005 --> 01:02:24,942 by being into this band, The Mentors, and... 901 01:02:25,042 --> 01:02:29,013 As you know, 16-year-old males in general are very homophobic, 902 01:02:29,113 --> 01:02:32,083 and I think that's where it comes from, you know. 903 01:02:32,183 --> 01:02:36,821 He's not the kind of guy to go out and "fag bash" or anything like that, 904 01:02:36,921 --> 01:02:40,024 it's just part and parcel of the whole Mentors package 905 01:02:40,124 --> 01:02:41,926 that these things come into the music. 906 01:02:45,429 --> 01:02:46,330 Jeremy? 907 01:02:46,430 --> 01:02:47,331 Yeah. 908 01:02:47,431 --> 01:02:49,900 - Do you like that guitar sound? - Yeah. 909 01:02:50,001 --> 01:02:51,102 AJ. 910 01:02:51,202 --> 01:02:52,970 Go get fucked up! 911 01:02:54,939 --> 01:02:56,073 AJ. 912 01:02:56,173 --> 01:02:57,908 I like the devil hearts. 913 01:02:58,009 --> 01:02:59,310 Thanks, man. 914 01:03:01,579 --> 01:03:03,314 What's up, man? 915 01:03:03,414 --> 01:03:04,749 Alright, kid? 916 01:03:04,849 --> 01:03:06,651 Get that hood on right. 917 01:03:12,556 --> 01:03:13,557 It's not... 918 01:03:17,094 --> 01:03:18,763 You're nobody to look up to. 919 01:03:18,863 --> 01:03:20,631 I'll tell you right now where you're going. 920 01:03:28,906 --> 01:03:31,142 Your next gig was going to be where? 921 01:03:31,242 --> 01:03:33,744 This White Power movement thing. 922 01:03:35,046 --> 01:03:37,181 See, there's a lot of these fanatics 923 01:03:37,281 --> 01:03:39,784 down at Huntington Beach that want to... 924 01:03:41,018 --> 01:03:44,955 They want The Mentors to play there. 925 01:03:45,056 --> 01:03:47,792 But I don't know, I got a lot of black friends, too, you know. 926 01:03:47,892 --> 01:03:49,927 I... I got... 927 01:03:50,027 --> 01:03:52,897 Living in LA, you got all kinds of friends, you know. 928 01:03:52,997 --> 01:03:56,734 I got Chinese friends and Mexican friends... 929 01:03:56,834 --> 01:03:59,603 You know, it wouldn't look right for me to go down there 930 01:03:59,704 --> 01:04:03,708 and play for a bunch of... a limited amount of people 931 01:04:03,808 --> 01:04:06,610 that don't think too deeply. 932 01:04:06,711 --> 01:04:08,946 Why do you, uh... 933 01:04:09,046 --> 01:04:11,349 I mean I believe that whites have rights, you know, 934 01:04:11,449 --> 01:04:13,417 and if there's a black movement, 935 01:04:13,517 --> 01:04:16,354 there should be a white movement. 936 01:04:16,454 --> 01:04:18,155 I'm proud of being a white. 937 01:04:19,357 --> 01:04:23,127 When I become sheriff of this county, 938 01:04:23,227 --> 01:04:25,629 I'll be like Buford Pusser. 939 01:04:26,997 --> 01:04:29,133 I'm going to be the strongest. 940 01:04:34,171 --> 01:04:38,175 I'm a Klansman, I'm a redneck, hallelujah! 941 01:04:38,976 --> 01:04:40,778 And I'm going to get them, 942 01:04:40,878 --> 01:04:42,146 and you know what? 943 01:04:43,114 --> 01:04:45,449 When I become sheriff of this county... 944 01:04:46,684 --> 01:04:48,586 I'm going to carry a bat so big 945 01:04:48,686 --> 01:04:52,490 it's going to have spikes sticking of the sides. 946 01:04:52,590 --> 01:04:56,560 And then when they see me coming with my Nazi German helmet, 947 01:04:56,660 --> 01:04:59,764 the crack dealers are going to spread like ants. 948 01:05:00,731 --> 01:05:02,933 But to tell you the truth... 949 01:06:00,925 --> 01:06:02,626 I'm American all the way. 950 01:06:05,196 --> 01:06:06,964 All liberals must die. 951 01:06:07,064 --> 01:06:08,566 Why? 952 01:06:08,666 --> 01:06:13,337 They stand up for gangs and wars and literacy and... 953 01:06:14,939 --> 01:06:17,141 How the hell do they expect to... 954 01:06:20,444 --> 01:06:21,946 That calls for a drink. 955 01:06:24,748 --> 01:06:26,984 I like him because he's a Nazi. 956 01:06:30,187 --> 01:06:33,524 So you agree with both the liberals and the conservatives? 957 01:06:42,466 --> 01:06:43,534 What do you think of that? 958 01:06:43,634 --> 01:06:47,271 I think it's a pile of crap, we're already overpopulated. 959 01:06:49,707 --> 01:06:51,308 What are they going to feed them? 960 01:06:51,408 --> 01:06:54,445 Alfalfa leaves and welfare stamps? 961 01:06:56,814 --> 01:06:57,948 What's that? 962 01:07:05,222 --> 01:07:06,724 They don't want to pay us, 963 01:07:06,824 --> 01:07:09,226 but if they want us that bad, 964 01:07:09,326 --> 01:07:11,996 they'll have to pay us 150 bucks and a keg of beer. 965 01:07:12,096 --> 01:07:16,500 As far as El Duce's sort of philosophy 966 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,537 on Nazism and homosexuals... 967 01:07:19,637 --> 01:07:21,171 Oh, he picked that up from a friend. 968 01:07:21,272 --> 01:07:24,275 I think he picked that up from a friend of his a while back. 969 01:07:24,375 --> 01:07:26,277 That's just something he's latched on to 970 01:07:26,377 --> 01:07:27,845 just to be offensive. 971 01:07:27,945 --> 01:07:29,580 It's not to be taken seriously? 972 01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:33,617 No, one of his best friends is as black as your pants. 973 01:07:34,618 --> 01:07:36,520 Are you racist at all? 974 01:07:36,620 --> 01:07:37,755 No. 975 01:07:38,689 --> 01:07:40,758 I got a lot of black friends. 976 01:07:40,858 --> 01:07:43,594 Do you think he really idolizes Hitler? 977 01:07:43,694 --> 01:07:46,697 Not in a serious sense, I don't think so. 978 01:07:46,797 --> 01:07:48,397 Just in terms of the entertainment of it? 979 01:07:48,465 --> 01:07:49,667 Yeah, I think he... 980 01:07:49,767 --> 01:07:51,869 In terms of the entertainment, yes. 981 01:07:53,137 --> 01:07:54,705 But no, he doesn't idolize Hitler, 982 01:07:54,805 --> 01:07:57,174 certainly, you know, doesn't read books about Hitler, 983 01:07:57,274 --> 01:08:00,077 nor have pictures of Hitler up on his wall or anything. 984 01:08:01,779 --> 01:08:03,447 Your dad beat you, 985 01:08:03,547 --> 01:08:05,583 and you resented that and you hated that, 986 01:08:05,683 --> 01:08:08,319 and yet people like Hitler and Idi Amin 987 01:08:08,419 --> 01:08:10,688 brutalize and torture people, and you like that. 988 01:08:10,788 --> 01:08:12,957 - Yeah, I do. - How do you justify that? 989 01:08:13,057 --> 01:08:14,325 Because it's entertainment, 990 01:08:14,425 --> 01:08:18,329 and I've finally grown up to realize what a fun party is. 991 01:08:18,429 --> 01:08:20,740 Did you think it was entertainment when your dad was beating you? 992 01:08:20,764 --> 01:08:22,600 Oh, yeah, he got a kick out of it. 993 01:08:22,700 --> 01:08:25,769 - You didn't, though? - Hell no, I was a victim of it. 994 01:08:25,869 --> 01:08:29,173 If you know what it's like to be the victim, how come you like the idea of it? 995 01:08:29,273 --> 01:08:32,142 Because you grow up, and now I'm going to do it to somebody else, 996 01:08:32,242 --> 01:08:35,045 cos my dad did it to me. 997 01:08:35,145 --> 01:08:37,025 Is that fair to the person you do it to, though? 998 01:08:37,081 --> 01:08:40,317 Hell no, he's going to learn how to do it to the next victim. 999 01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,989 It's a chain reaction, brother. 1000 01:09:00,704 --> 01:09:07,678 Mom, if it were only you and El Duce in the room together, 1001 01:09:07,778 --> 01:09:11,315 what do you want to just say to him? 1002 01:09:11,415 --> 01:09:13,283 You know what you're doing to kids? 1003 01:09:13,384 --> 01:09:16,320 Do you realize that you're making boys think 1004 01:09:16,420 --> 01:09:18,288 that they can go out and do this to girls, 1005 01:09:18,389 --> 01:09:21,992 and take their innocence away when they don't want it taken away? 1006 01:09:22,092 --> 01:09:24,137 Well, girls shouldn't go out there advertising for it. 1007 01:09:24,161 --> 01:09:28,065 No, I'm sorry, I wasn't advertising for it, I was only 12 years old! 1008 01:09:39,243 --> 01:09:42,146 This dive is where The Mentors started from. 1009 01:09:44,615 --> 01:09:47,251 They threw me out of here 1010 01:09:47,351 --> 01:09:51,321 because Stoney T said I set fire to the dumpster. 1011 01:09:52,923 --> 01:09:56,527 Let me tell you I'm going to buy this club and fire everybody. 1012 01:09:57,995 --> 01:10:00,364 But these guys are my friends. 1013 01:10:00,464 --> 01:10:02,366 That's right, brother. 1014 01:10:02,466 --> 01:10:04,968 - Eldon! - Yeah, what's up there, buddy? 1015 01:10:26,557 --> 01:10:28,592 How are you doin'? 1016 01:10:28,692 --> 01:10:31,061 This is El Duce. I named my dog after him. 1017 01:10:31,161 --> 01:10:32,529 "I named my dog after him!" 1018 01:10:32,629 --> 01:10:33,997 - What? - I named my dog after him. 1019 01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:38,569 I'm your fucking wife, asshole. 1020 01:10:52,249 --> 01:10:53,684 Good to see you. 1021 01:11:35,058 --> 01:11:36,360 OK. 1022 01:11:37,427 --> 01:11:39,096 Big stash. 1023 01:11:43,634 --> 01:11:44,634 There you go. 1024 01:11:44,701 --> 01:11:46,470 Thanks to welfare. 1025 01:11:54,978 --> 01:11:58,148 And then, see, he works part-time for me now, 1026 01:11:58,248 --> 01:12:00,717 so he'll help me in my business. 1027 01:12:00,818 --> 01:12:04,087 So we got this mutual thing going there. 1028 01:12:04,188 --> 01:12:05,422 What do you do? 1029 01:12:05,522 --> 01:12:07,524 I do private parties. 1030 01:12:07,624 --> 01:12:09,893 I'm an entertainer, too, and he's... 1031 01:12:09,993 --> 01:12:12,296 He comes a lot, he carries my shit in and out, 1032 01:12:12,396 --> 01:12:14,865 cos I go do private parties in people's houses, 1033 01:12:14,965 --> 01:12:16,834 he carries the shit in and out for me. 1034 01:12:16,934 --> 01:12:18,368 What kind of work do you do? 1035 01:12:18,468 --> 01:12:21,305 I paint apartments, do some plumbing. 1036 01:12:22,906 --> 01:12:24,041 Movie extra work. 1037 01:12:24,141 --> 01:12:26,577 Well, that sounds pretty bad. 1038 01:12:26,677 --> 01:12:29,947 Well, it's not good news. 1039 01:12:30,047 --> 01:12:31,748 But it's better than the gas chamber. 1040 01:12:34,351 --> 01:12:36,453 How many 40 ounces do you drink a day? 1041 01:12:37,788 --> 01:12:39,790 I don't know, about two or three, sometimes four, 1042 01:12:39,890 --> 01:12:42,559 sometimes six, sometimes eight. 1043 01:12:43,894 --> 01:12:45,596 How many before you pass out? 1044 01:12:47,097 --> 01:12:48,832 Probably around six. 1045 01:12:50,634 --> 01:12:52,536 Do you pretty much pass out every night? 1046 01:12:53,503 --> 01:12:55,572 No, I'm... 1047 01:12:55,672 --> 01:12:58,041 Some nights I don't even sleep. 1048 01:12:58,141 --> 01:12:59,176 How is, uh... 1049 01:12:59,276 --> 01:13:04,081 Has El Duce's alcoholism ever affected shows? 1050 01:13:04,181 --> 01:13:06,984 I mean, I love being in the band and everything, 1051 01:13:07,084 --> 01:13:09,686 but it's affected the band to such a degree 1052 01:13:09,786 --> 01:13:13,590 that probably only 50% of the shows we're gonna do 1053 01:13:13,690 --> 01:13:14,858 are gonna be any good, 1054 01:13:14,958 --> 01:13:17,327 just due to the fact of the alcohol problem. 1055 01:13:17,427 --> 01:13:19,830 I mean there's been more shows than I could count 1056 01:13:19,930 --> 01:13:21,999 where he's been so out of it 1057 01:13:22,099 --> 01:13:26,703 that he literally could not even play, barely even talk. 1058 01:13:28,872 --> 01:13:30,841 He's even gotten sloppy on his drums, 1059 01:13:30,941 --> 01:13:33,110 I mean there's another side of... 1060 01:13:33,210 --> 01:13:34,811 he just cruises. 1061 01:13:34,912 --> 01:13:39,383 And his lyrics? Shit. It's the same variations of the same crap. 1062 01:13:39,483 --> 01:13:42,586 He's lazy about that, he can't even write lyrics anymore, 1063 01:13:42,686 --> 01:13:45,622 he just goes and improvises recordings and everything. 1064 01:14:04,174 --> 01:14:07,144 So that has been extremely detrimental, 1065 01:14:07,244 --> 01:14:10,914 now of course there has been a lot of times when it's been humorous... 1066 01:14:11,014 --> 01:14:14,151 El Duce might get mad about this one, 1067 01:14:14,251 --> 01:14:18,722 but this one place in Florida where he was frying... 1068 01:14:18,822 --> 01:14:23,393 I'm going to fucking get in the ring, and I'm gonna... 1069 01:14:23,493 --> 01:14:24,928 Ooh! 1070 01:14:25,996 --> 01:14:28,098 Yeah. Maybe I'm gonna be a wrestler. 1071 01:14:29,967 --> 01:14:32,302 The Billygoat! 1072 01:14:32,402 --> 01:14:33,780 Everybody thought he was talking to somebody, like, 1073 01:14:33,804 --> 01:14:37,808 "Who is he talking to?" This was, like, four hours' talking, 1074 01:14:37,908 --> 01:14:42,980 you know, all this shit, like the wrestling guys in WWE? 1075 01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,482 Doing all that shit for four hours, 1076 01:14:45,582 --> 01:14:49,619 and finally I got up to see who he was talking to, 1077 01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:51,288 and he's talking in the mirror. 1078 01:14:51,388 --> 01:14:55,158 He'd say stuff about, "Yeah, I'm gonna kick this guy's ass." 1079 01:14:55,258 --> 01:14:57,461 You know, he's doing all... 1080 01:14:58,695 --> 01:15:00,564 That was really funny. 1081 01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:07,137 I'm going to take on anyone, I'll lose the match, who cares? 1082 01:15:08,338 --> 01:15:11,541 I'll get the chicks and the money afterwards. 1083 01:15:11,641 --> 01:15:15,779 Do you feel that the band kind of keeps him from getting clean? 1084 01:15:16,847 --> 01:15:18,115 Uh... 1085 01:15:20,083 --> 01:15:23,587 Well no, no, I don't think so, I don't think so. 1086 01:15:23,687 --> 01:15:26,556 I mean, to a certain extent, his persona of El Duce 1087 01:15:26,656 --> 01:15:29,826 is being, you know, this rock and roll party animal. 1088 01:15:31,228 --> 01:15:35,632 Sure, that reinforces that behavior to a certain extent. 1089 01:15:36,566 --> 01:15:40,404 But to point to any one thing and say, "That's why he's the way he is," 1090 01:15:40,504 --> 01:15:45,208 or "If he wasn't doing that, he wouldn't be drinking," 1091 01:15:45,308 --> 01:15:47,644 I don't think one can make those statements or assumptions. 1092 01:15:47,744 --> 01:15:50,680 I think alcoholism is a very tricky thing 1093 01:15:50,781 --> 01:15:53,717 and certainly there's millions of alcoholics in the world 1094 01:15:53,817 --> 01:15:55,485 who aren't in rock bands, 1095 01:15:55,585 --> 01:15:59,656 you know, your doctors, lawyers, truck drivers... 1096 01:15:59,756 --> 01:16:01,191 Drug abuse and alcoholism, 1097 01:16:01,291 --> 01:16:03,660 they're chronic endemic problems with people, 1098 01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,329 and it's not necessarily attributed to any one thing 1099 01:16:06,430 --> 01:16:08,465 or any two or three things. 1100 01:16:08,565 --> 01:16:13,203 I started messing around with Vodka 100 Proof Smirnoff, 1101 01:16:13,303 --> 01:16:15,205 the blue bottles, 1102 01:16:15,305 --> 01:16:18,108 and I was drinking that shit, a fifth a day, 1103 01:16:18,208 --> 01:16:20,677 and that just tears your shit right up. 1104 01:16:21,678 --> 01:16:24,081 Your shit is gone within a month. 1105 01:16:25,048 --> 01:16:27,384 You know, drinking that stiff. 1106 01:16:27,484 --> 01:16:31,121 Cos I thought I was Superman, I could do anything, you know. 1107 01:16:32,422 --> 01:16:36,526 And then I woke up in the hospital, 1108 01:16:36,626 --> 01:16:38,628 tubes stuck in my arms and stuff, 1109 01:16:38,728 --> 01:16:42,299 and I was like, "I got to do something." 1110 01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,203 They gave me all these knock-out pills and shit, 1111 01:16:46,303 --> 01:16:48,738 so that I could kick the booze. 1112 01:16:51,074 --> 01:16:53,477 And then I drifted back into drinking, 1113 01:16:53,577 --> 01:16:55,412 but now all I drink is... 1114 01:16:56,746 --> 01:16:58,682 Cos I can kind of control it. 1115 01:17:00,083 --> 01:17:03,353 You know, having grown up with the guy, 1116 01:17:03,453 --> 01:17:04,893 being a close friend and everything, 1117 01:17:04,921 --> 01:17:06,857 nobody wants to see somebody they know 1118 01:17:06,957 --> 01:17:09,493 destroy themselves in that way, but you know... 1119 01:17:10,927 --> 01:17:13,930 You now, I kind of, to a certain extent, wash my hands of it. 1120 01:17:14,030 --> 01:17:17,167 I sort of made my attempt to get him clean, 1121 01:17:17,267 --> 01:17:19,503 it didn't really work, and, uh... 1122 01:17:19,603 --> 01:17:21,438 I just let him live his own life now. 1123 01:17:21,538 --> 01:17:23,573 Whatever he's going to do, he's going to do. 1124 01:17:23,673 --> 01:17:25,575 I can't assume any responsibility for him 1125 01:17:25,675 --> 01:17:28,378 in terms of his own personal wellbeing. 1126 01:17:43,827 --> 01:17:45,795 When do you feel bad for him? 1127 01:17:48,031 --> 01:17:53,470 When I see him, like, with a bottle, half of a bottle of vodka in his hand. 1128 01:17:55,005 --> 01:17:58,441 And he just wants to be duced, 1129 01:17:58,542 --> 01:18:02,512 cos I know that thought, I have been there, too. 1130 01:18:02,612 --> 01:18:05,148 And it's just... 1131 01:18:05,248 --> 01:18:08,185 I don't want to go back there anymore. 1132 01:18:08,285 --> 01:18:10,086 And he's... 1133 01:18:10,187 --> 01:18:13,990 It took such incredible will for me to get out of that, 1134 01:18:14,090 --> 01:18:15,225 and I don't think... 1135 01:18:15,325 --> 01:18:17,460 I mean, I know Eldon doesn't have that will. 1136 01:18:17,561 --> 01:18:20,363 He doesn't even have the will to, you know, 1137 01:18:20,463 --> 01:18:23,667 get a regular place to stay, 1138 01:18:23,767 --> 01:18:25,802 and clothes and shower, 1139 01:18:25,902 --> 01:18:28,505 and that's too much responsibility. 1140 01:18:28,605 --> 01:18:32,509 You have to be so determined in mind, and he just isn't. 1141 01:18:34,678 --> 01:18:37,447 So, where do you live? 1142 01:18:38,548 --> 01:18:41,084 Well, it depends on my attitude. 1143 01:18:42,052 --> 01:18:44,888 Either jail, cardboard condominium, 1144 01:18:44,988 --> 01:18:48,558 Sickie Wifebeater's, Dr. Heathen Scum's. 1145 01:18:48,658 --> 01:18:50,293 I do the couch tour. 1146 01:18:54,164 --> 01:18:55,265 Um... 1147 01:18:56,266 --> 01:18:58,535 It's like being on the road. 1148 01:18:58,635 --> 01:19:01,504 But I'm on the road in one little area. 1149 01:19:06,810 --> 01:19:08,712 It makes me a nervous wreck. 1150 01:19:08,812 --> 01:19:10,580 Makes me want to drink more. 1151 01:19:11,581 --> 01:19:16,119 I'm going to show you how real kings live. 1152 01:19:18,255 --> 01:19:20,523 Who needs a job? You do. 1153 01:19:21,791 --> 01:19:24,060 Who needs the booze? I do. 1154 01:19:25,228 --> 01:19:28,331 Who's an asshole? You are. 1155 01:19:28,431 --> 01:19:31,868 Who's a creep? I am. 1156 01:19:31,968 --> 01:19:34,971 Let's get out a dictionary and write down the words. 1157 01:19:45,982 --> 01:19:48,285 It's funny how you find your real friends. 1158 01:19:48,385 --> 01:19:51,354 Last time I saw him, he was living in a box. 1159 01:19:52,289 --> 01:19:53,323 Oh, yeah! 1160 01:19:53,423 --> 01:19:56,860 He was living in a box on the side of the highway in LA. 1161 01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,996 We got to Hollywood, and we pulled over, 1162 01:20:00,096 --> 01:20:04,968 I mean we're, like, sitting in this parking lot in our bus, 1163 01:20:05,068 --> 01:20:07,404 and all of a sudden we hear this... 1164 01:20:07,504 --> 01:20:10,874 There's this empty, deserted, like, broken-down cube truck, 1165 01:20:10,974 --> 01:20:13,710 and we hear this... 1166 01:20:13,810 --> 01:20:15,045 And then we look over there, 1167 01:20:15,145 --> 01:20:18,348 and this whole refrigerator box falls out of the back, 1168 01:20:18,448 --> 01:20:21,351 and El Duce comes crawling out of it. 1169 01:20:21,451 --> 01:20:23,720 And he looks up at us and he goes, 1170 01:20:25,155 --> 01:20:26,289 "Gwar?" 1171 01:20:52,382 --> 01:20:53,717 Say, brother. 1172 01:20:53,817 --> 01:20:55,719 You wouldn't be able to spare a nickel? 1173 01:20:55,819 --> 01:20:57,020 Spare what? 1174 01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:59,122 You wouldn't be able to spare a nickel, could you? 1175 01:20:59,222 --> 01:21:01,191 Nickel, what is that? 1176 01:21:02,692 --> 01:21:03,893 A quarter. 1177 01:21:03,993 --> 01:21:06,763 Oh, you mean money? 1178 01:21:06,863 --> 01:21:08,703 What are you going to do with that nickel, man? 1179 01:21:10,233 --> 01:21:12,736 - You are going to do what? - Buy booze. 1180 01:21:12,836 --> 01:21:14,270 - Booze? - Yeah. 1181 01:21:14,838 --> 01:21:16,272 Hey, Thirty... 1182 01:21:19,676 --> 01:21:22,045 How do we make money? 1183 01:21:22,145 --> 01:21:23,847 I bum. 1184 01:21:23,947 --> 01:21:26,149 Yeah, but how to be a perfect bum? 1185 01:21:26,249 --> 01:21:28,585 Eldon Hoke. That man's, like, true terror, 1186 01:21:28,685 --> 01:21:30,220 left and right. 1187 01:21:31,287 --> 01:21:33,123 That guy used to work at the Ivar Theatre. 1188 01:21:33,223 --> 01:21:34,691 Get over here. 1189 01:21:34,791 --> 01:21:36,326 What? 1190 01:21:36,426 --> 01:21:38,628 Tell them what I'd do at the Ivar. 1191 01:21:38,728 --> 01:21:40,296 Tell them what I'd do at the Ivar. 1192 01:21:40,397 --> 01:21:44,200 In 1984, he used to work as an announcer at the Ivar Theatre, 1193 01:21:44,300 --> 01:21:46,436 which was a totally nude burlesque theater. 1194 01:21:46,536 --> 01:21:49,472 That's where I became an announcer also. 1195 01:21:49,572 --> 01:21:51,341 Tell them what we did in the light booth. 1196 01:21:51,441 --> 01:21:54,110 I am not even going to speak such things on camera. Sorry. 1197 01:21:54,210 --> 01:21:55,678 I grew up with him, 1198 01:21:55,779 --> 01:21:59,282 I watched him become El Duce, you know, slowly. 1199 01:21:59,382 --> 01:22:03,219 I mean, from drawing little chopped-off arms and axes 1200 01:22:03,319 --> 01:22:05,722 and torture scenes in the fourth grade... 1201 01:22:06,589 --> 01:22:10,460 instead of Bambi pictures and shit. 1202 01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:15,298 I mean, he's always been real different. 1203 01:22:15,398 --> 01:22:17,758 Do you get along with her the best of anyone in your family? 1204 01:22:17,801 --> 01:22:18,802 Yep. 1205 01:22:19,836 --> 01:22:21,538 I love my sister. 1206 01:22:22,505 --> 01:22:25,942 She's the only family I got, really. 1207 01:22:26,042 --> 01:22:30,947 Everyone else is gonna die a gruesome death for their evil. 1208 01:22:46,563 --> 01:22:48,398 How would you like to die? 1209 01:22:48,498 --> 01:22:51,468 Uh, maybe a lethal injection, 1210 01:22:51,568 --> 01:22:54,204 or have me a... 1211 01:22:56,039 --> 01:22:57,407 hmm... 1212 01:22:59,242 --> 01:23:02,445 parachute without a parachute that doesn't work. 1213 01:23:05,782 --> 01:23:07,050 Yeah. 1214 01:23:09,185 --> 01:23:12,722 The expression on their face when they go. 1215 01:23:15,758 --> 01:23:18,127 Because they think they had everything going together, 1216 01:23:18,228 --> 01:23:20,830 and then when it's time for them to die, 1217 01:23:20,930 --> 01:23:23,233 get a good look at them! Argh! 1218 01:23:26,769 --> 01:23:30,273 He talks a lot about death and dying. How seriously do you take that? 1219 01:23:30,373 --> 01:23:33,209 Well, you know, he first started coming up with that 1220 01:23:33,309 --> 01:23:35,612 about ten years ago, he'd start saying stuff like, 1221 01:23:35,712 --> 01:23:38,414 "I have seen death and I want to die." 1222 01:23:39,516 --> 01:23:43,353 When he gets really drunk, he'll go off onto this death trip he's got. 1223 01:23:43,453 --> 01:23:45,333 I guess when he first started coming up with it, 1224 01:23:45,421 --> 01:23:51,227 I got pretty concerned about it, I thought it was maybe indicative 1225 01:23:51,327 --> 01:23:53,496 of what was soon to follow. 1226 01:23:53,596 --> 01:23:56,499 And I'm certainly still worried about him expiring early. 1227 01:23:56,599 --> 01:23:59,302 I mean, the guy's been a serious alcoholic for 10 or 15 years. 1228 01:23:59,402 --> 01:24:02,171 Certainly, you know, I don't know how much time he's got left, 1229 01:24:02,272 --> 01:24:07,777 but, again, I just sort of close my mind to it. 1230 01:24:07,877 --> 01:24:11,915 I figure my only alternative is to not associate with him. 1231 01:24:12,015 --> 01:24:13,650 I don't want to do that, I mean... 1232 01:24:13,750 --> 01:24:16,085 I enjoy being around the guy when he is more or less sober. 1233 01:24:16,185 --> 01:24:18,488 I like working with him, playing with him. 1234 01:24:18,588 --> 01:24:20,123 He is a friend of mine, 1235 01:24:20,223 --> 01:24:22,458 and I think I just have to accept him for what he is, 1236 01:24:22,559 --> 01:24:27,363 and if part of what he is, is to die early, then so be it, 1237 01:24:27,463 --> 01:24:29,999 although I don't think anybody wants to see that. 1238 01:24:56,659 --> 01:24:58,394 Mm... yeah. 1239 01:25:20,850 --> 01:25:24,988 He is fascinated with people dying and killing and getting hurt and all that, 1240 01:25:25,088 --> 01:25:27,190 but he seems to be a peaceful guy. 1241 01:25:27,290 --> 01:25:28,958 Yeah, he's harmless. 1242 01:25:29,692 --> 01:25:33,096 That's the ironic thing about it, he's totally harmless. 1243 01:25:33,997 --> 01:25:35,665 Didn't seem like he'd hurt anybody. 1244 01:25:35,765 --> 01:25:39,068 He wouldn't. He is absolutely nonviolent. 1245 01:25:39,168 --> 01:25:40,837 Do you mind taking your mask off? 1246 01:25:49,312 --> 01:25:50,513 OK, put it back on. 1247 01:25:59,589 --> 01:26:02,425 I am an ugly motherfucker. 1248 01:26:02,525 --> 01:26:04,193 I admit it. 1249 01:26:05,995 --> 01:26:07,964 I don't care anymore. 1250 01:26:08,064 --> 01:26:12,101 Do you find his problem with alcohol to be inhibiting? 1251 01:26:12,201 --> 01:26:14,203 No, see, that's his own thing. 1252 01:26:14,303 --> 01:26:16,739 He's always talking about dying early and stuff, 1253 01:26:16,839 --> 01:26:19,308 and that freaks some people out, 1254 01:26:19,409 --> 01:26:24,213 but I figure we all got to go at our own pace, 1255 01:26:24,313 --> 01:26:26,749 and maybe the alcohol is preserving him. 1256 01:26:29,952 --> 01:26:33,222 It doesn't bother me. I don't give a fuck what he does. 1257 01:26:40,563 --> 01:26:42,065 '...the value of your home. 1258 01:26:42,165 --> 01:26:45,001 'It's even tax-deductible, so consult your CPA. 1259 01:26:45,101 --> 01:26:50,039 'That's 1-800-227-2888. Preferred financial funding.' 1260 01:26:57,747 --> 01:27:01,184 Just because El Duce is bald and ugly... 1261 01:27:03,219 --> 01:27:06,889 uses cheap cardboard drums, 1262 01:27:06,989 --> 01:27:11,794 doesn't mean you have the right to sneak in there 1263 01:27:11,894 --> 01:27:14,363 and stick your little peekaboo camera up there. 1264 01:27:21,237 --> 01:27:23,406 I like to have people afraid of me. 1265 01:27:24,741 --> 01:27:27,677 - Uh, El... - Don't do that. 1266 01:27:31,047 --> 01:27:32,381 No. 1267 01:27:36,819 --> 01:27:38,121 El! 1268 01:27:40,723 --> 01:27:42,058 Oh, God. 1269 01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,069 Whatever it takes for entertainment. 1270 01:28:09,185 --> 01:28:10,953 ♪ Don't stop 1271 01:28:11,053 --> 01:28:12,955 ♪ Thinking about tomorrow 1272 01:28:13,055 --> 01:28:14,857 ♪ Don't stop 1273 01:28:14,957 --> 01:28:17,326 ♪ It'll soon be here 1274 01:28:17,426 --> 01:28:18,861 ♪ It'll be here 1275 01:28:18,961 --> 01:28:20,830 ♪ Better than before 1276 01:28:20,930 --> 01:28:22,698 ♪ Yesterday's gone 1277 01:28:22,799 --> 01:28:24,767 ♪ Yesterday's gone 1278 01:28:24,867 --> 01:28:26,803 ♪ Don't stop 1279 01:28:26,903 --> 01:28:28,738 ♪ Thinking about tomorrow 1280 01:28:28,838 --> 01:28:30,706 ♪ Don't stop 1281 01:28:30,807 --> 01:28:32,875 ♪ It'll soon be here ♪ 1282 01:28:45,955 --> 01:28:48,791 - Yes! Huh-huh! - Uh-huh! Huh! 1283 01:28:48,891 --> 01:28:50,793 This kicks butt! 1284 01:28:50,893 --> 01:28:52,128 Huh-huh! Huh-huh! 1285 01:28:52,862 --> 01:28:54,363 Nirvana is cool. 1286 01:28:54,463 --> 01:28:56,833 - Huh-huh! Huh-huh! - Yeah! Huh-huh... 1287 01:29:09,312 --> 01:29:12,281 See, I went through all of our videos over here. 1288 01:29:12,381 --> 01:29:13,583 Check it out. 1289 01:29:13,683 --> 01:29:17,286 I have been archiving videos since I bought a video camera last year, 1290 01:29:17,386 --> 01:29:19,288 and I got all the good shit in here 1291 01:29:19,388 --> 01:29:22,592 that's going to kick ass royally on this garbage. 1292 01:29:22,692 --> 01:29:26,495 So sit back and enjoy the El Duce, 1293 01:29:26,596 --> 01:29:28,698 the man, the myth, the video... 1294 01:29:30,099 --> 01:29:33,302 and make sure you show it to all your friends. 1295 01:29:40,543 --> 01:29:42,712 No, No, don't do... El, El, El... 1296 01:29:42,812 --> 01:29:44,780 Don't do this right out in the open like that. 1297 01:29:48,017 --> 01:29:51,520 Look at the queer-looking dudes that call themselves rock. 1298 01:29:51,621 --> 01:29:54,824 I say fucking Poison, suck some cock. 1299 01:29:57,126 --> 01:29:59,795 Let me bless my beer. 1300 01:29:59,896 --> 01:30:02,331 This is how you drink your beer when you're a real man. 1301 01:30:09,372 --> 01:30:11,073 The beer gods. 1302 01:30:11,173 --> 01:30:15,845 I am the king that knows how to drink beer, watch me. 1303 01:31:43,599 --> 01:31:45,134 Let's do it, dude! 1304 01:31:45,234 --> 01:31:47,903 OK, how about some Duce nude in the jacuzzi? 1305 01:31:48,004 --> 01:31:49,305 Yeah! 1306 01:31:49,405 --> 01:31:50,740 Get out of here! 1307 01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,075 Come on, let's go. Come on. 1308 01:32:46,829 --> 01:32:49,131 There is no doubt, Courtney knowing him well, 1309 01:32:49,231 --> 01:32:51,867 would know, hey, if I wanted to hire somebody to kill somebody, 1310 01:32:51,967 --> 01:32:53,302 El Duce would be the man. 1311 01:32:53,402 --> 01:32:55,013 - He would be liable to do it. - Like that. 1312 01:32:55,037 --> 01:32:58,274 Is that... looks like him right there actually. 1313 01:32:58,374 --> 01:33:00,076 That is... That's the one. 1314 01:33:00,176 --> 01:33:02,478 There he is, El Duce. 1315 01:33:02,578 --> 01:33:04,613 Where? I don't see him. 1316 01:33:04,713 --> 01:33:06,982 There he is right there. So, he's, uh... 1317 01:33:07,083 --> 01:33:09,085 Hey, I got some... 1318 01:33:09,185 --> 01:33:11,554 You did some deal with Courtney, right? 1319 01:33:11,654 --> 01:33:12,755 Yeah. 1320 01:33:12,855 --> 01:33:15,391 She offered me 50 grand to whack Kurt Cobain. 1321 01:33:15,491 --> 01:33:17,836 But did she tell you how she wanted you to kill Kurt Cobain? 1322 01:33:17,860 --> 01:33:19,862 Yeah, she said blow his fucking head off. 1323 01:33:19,962 --> 01:33:21,630 I got the shotgun. 1324 01:33:21,730 --> 01:33:24,266 - But she didn't say anything... - Make it look like a suicide. 1325 01:33:24,366 --> 01:33:27,303 Well, yeah, but if he blew out his brains like you said... 1326 01:33:59,969 --> 01:34:02,304 'Hello, you've reached The Mentors hotline. 1327 01:34:02,404 --> 01:34:05,541 'If you are calling regarding the rumors about El Duce, 1328 01:34:05,641 --> 01:34:07,843 'we're sorry to report that they are indeed true. 1329 01:34:07,943 --> 01:34:09,378 'El Duce is deceased, 1330 01:34:09,478 --> 01:34:13,249 'and he was hit by a train two Saturday nights ago. 1331 01:34:14,416 --> 01:34:16,152 'Thank you very much for your condolences. 1332 01:34:16,252 --> 01:34:18,687 'They're greatly appreciated.' 1333 01:34:34,870 --> 01:34:36,839 You know how they found El Duce? 1334 01:34:37,940 --> 01:34:40,309 - Dead? - Found him dead with no head. 1335 01:34:40,409 --> 01:34:42,244 Found him on train tracks 1336 01:34:42,344 --> 01:34:45,047 with his head on one side and his body on the other. 1337 01:34:45,981 --> 01:34:49,151 The passing of an American genius. 1338 01:34:52,788 --> 01:34:54,823 El Duce had to leave, 1339 01:34:54,924 --> 01:34:58,294 he had to catch a train... with his face. 1340 01:35:07,970 --> 01:35:09,605 Having maybe reached 1341 01:35:09,705 --> 01:35:13,175 the apex of commercial viability with The Mentors, 1342 01:35:13,275 --> 01:35:16,212 why not now just play a type of music 1343 01:35:16,312 --> 01:35:18,581 that you have always wanted to play? 1344 01:35:18,681 --> 01:35:21,183 Well, I think we do, we do play what we want to play. 1345 01:35:21,283 --> 01:35:23,886 Right now, it's what we want to play. 1346 01:35:23,986 --> 01:35:25,630 You don't feel the need to go off and, uh... 1347 01:35:25,654 --> 01:35:27,489 I mean, El Duce doesn't feel the need 1348 01:35:27,590 --> 01:35:30,826 to find his fusion roots again? 1349 01:35:31,961 --> 01:35:33,481 - Uh, no. - I'm just getting back to... 1350 01:35:33,529 --> 01:35:36,398 Yeah, I know what you're saying. I know exactly what you're saying. 1351 01:35:36,498 --> 01:35:38,334 When we started out, it was contrived 1352 01:35:38,434 --> 01:35:40,970 to the extent I've already described. 1353 01:35:41,070 --> 01:35:43,405 But that... we're way past that point now. 1354 01:35:43,505 --> 01:35:45,107 It's no longer a contrived thing, 1355 01:35:45,207 --> 01:35:50,813 it's a real legitimate artistic thing that we do, 1356 01:35:50,913 --> 01:35:54,683 and there's very little pretense behind it of that nature. 1357 01:35:54,783 --> 01:35:57,019 So I think we are doing what we want to do. 1358 01:36:01,657 --> 01:36:03,792 I mean, I guess... 1359 01:36:03,892 --> 01:36:07,663 I think El would've wound up the same way 1360 01:36:07,763 --> 01:36:10,332 whether or not he was ever in The Mentors. 1361 01:36:10,432 --> 01:36:14,136 And so I guess I'm glad that, um... 1362 01:36:16,272 --> 01:36:19,975 he was in The Mentors so he will be remembered for something. 1363 01:36:20,075 --> 01:36:21,910 El Duce, this is for you. 1364 01:36:22,011 --> 01:36:24,613 I hope you roll in your fucking grave! 1365 01:36:33,822 --> 01:36:36,325 ♪ Sandwich of love 1366 01:36:36,425 --> 01:36:38,861 ♪ It's the sandwich of love ♪ 1367 01:36:39,962 --> 01:36:41,830 "Bend up and smell my anal vapor. 1368 01:36:41,930 --> 01:36:44,433 "Your face is my toilet paper. 1369 01:36:44,533 --> 01:36:46,335 "On your face I leave a shit tower. 1370 01:36:46,435 --> 01:36:48,003 "Golden showers. 1371 01:36:48,103 --> 01:36:50,239 "Golden showers." 1372 01:36:50,339 --> 01:36:51,707 I'm sorry, your time has expired. 1373 01:36:51,807 --> 01:36:53,008 Duce! 1374 01:36:53,108 --> 01:36:55,778 When you took a mic stand and you shoved it in your ass, 1375 01:36:55,878 --> 01:36:58,013 and you hit me with it, 1376 01:36:58,113 --> 01:37:00,816 I felt like I graduated from high school. 1377 01:37:00,916 --> 01:37:02,651 - Well, congratulations. - Thanks. 1378 01:37:02,751 --> 01:37:06,955 This kind of thing might have a big enough of an impact. 1379 01:37:07,056 --> 01:37:09,725 It said what it needed to say in such a concise 1380 01:37:09,825 --> 01:37:11,627 yet humorous and pungent fashion 1381 01:37:11,727 --> 01:37:14,630 that I could see it making a lasting impact. 1382 01:37:14,730 --> 01:37:17,800 ♪ I know you want it, you're a good girl ♪ 1383 01:37:30,312 --> 01:37:32,147 ♪ Vaginoplasty 1384 01:37:33,949 --> 01:37:36,218 ♪ I keep it nasty ♪ 1385 01:37:36,318 --> 01:37:38,887 You've spoken out against all these... people. 1386 01:37:38,987 --> 01:37:41,156 Like, you say you don't hire gay people. 1387 01:37:41,256 --> 01:37:42,157 No, no, no. 1388 01:37:42,257 --> 01:37:44,102 They're not as bad as women, but no, I don't hire gays. 1389 01:37:44,126 --> 01:37:46,829 - But you know that's not... - No, they're really... 1390 01:37:46,929 --> 01:37:48,764 - But you know that's just... - Just kidding. 1391 01:37:48,864 --> 01:37:50,299 You're easy. 1392 01:37:51,700 --> 01:37:56,338 What if you control the entire world? 1393 01:37:56,438 --> 01:37:59,641 Somebody who could rise to political power, 1394 01:37:59,742 --> 01:38:02,244 through nothing more than pushing people's buttons 1395 01:38:02,344 --> 01:38:03,946 and getting them all riled up. 1396 01:38:08,550 --> 01:38:12,087 There's a bunch of famous musicians who were trying to close down Gitmo, 1397 01:38:12,187 --> 01:38:13,889 and they are enraged, 1398 01:38:13,989 --> 01:38:16,325 thinking that perhaps their music was being used 1399 01:38:16,425 --> 01:38:18,193 as torture against these inmates. 1400 01:38:18,293 --> 01:38:20,629 How do you feel about that? 1401 01:38:20,729 --> 01:38:23,866 Well, I mean, rock 'n' roll has been an instrument of torture 1402 01:38:23,966 --> 01:38:25,667 for as long as I can remember. 1403 01:38:25,768 --> 01:38:27,870 ♪ It should be legal to rape men 1404 01:38:27,970 --> 01:38:29,772 ♪ I'd never be alone again 1405 01:38:29,872 --> 01:38:31,774 ♪ I'd even let them fuck me raw 1406 01:38:31,874 --> 01:38:34,009 ♪ Why is it against the law? ♪ 1407 01:38:34,109 --> 01:38:38,113 And there are like one, two, three, four, five, six, seven Fs 1408 01:38:38,213 --> 01:38:39,448 in front of the 4th of July. 1409 01:38:39,548 --> 01:38:41,583 What does that signify if anything? 1410 01:38:41,683 --> 01:38:43,252 ♪ Find her, feel her 1411 01:38:43,352 --> 01:38:45,187 ♪ Fuck her, forget her ♪ 1412 01:38:46,555 --> 01:38:52,227 Last night, the number one trending topic on Twitter was Obama Farewell. 1413 01:38:52,327 --> 01:38:55,130 And the second trending topic, no kidding, 1414 01:38:55,230 --> 01:38:57,766 was "Golden Showers". 1415 01:39:00,369 --> 01:39:04,807 I think he's very proud of what he has done with his life. 1416 01:39:04,907 --> 01:39:09,678 I think he's very cognizant of the fact that he is creating art, 1417 01:39:09,778 --> 01:39:12,047 and does consider himself an artist. 1418 01:39:13,215 --> 01:39:15,017 I mean, he shocked and grossed people out, 1419 01:39:15,117 --> 01:39:16,385 that's what he wanted to do. 1420 01:39:16,485 --> 01:39:19,054 And he was the best at it, but it killed him inside. 1421 01:39:20,289 --> 01:39:21,723 I mean, who wants to go around 1422 01:39:21,824 --> 01:39:25,694 being the biggest, fattest, grossest, most disgusting thing? 1423 01:39:36,605 --> 01:39:37,906 Yep. 1424 01:39:42,644 --> 01:39:44,246 It's art. 1425 01:44:06,842 --> 01:44:09,077 See you in hell! 1426 01:44:13,715 --> 01:44:16,651 No, better yet, I'm in heaven. Bleurgh! 1427 01:44:16,752 --> 01:44:18,086 Fooled ya! 106140

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