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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:42,526 --> 00:00:44,562 That's me, Bob Zellner, 2 00:00:45,429 --> 00:00:46,564 the one in between. 3 00:00:46,598 --> 00:00:49,366 You've got to keep the white and the Black separate. 4 00:00:49,399 --> 00:00:52,536 The South was in an uproar over the Civil Rights Movement 5 00:00:52,570 --> 00:00:55,305 In my town, Montgomery, Alabama, 6 00:00:55,339 --> 00:00:57,575 five years ago, there was a bus boycott 7 00:00:57,609 --> 00:01:00,177 which began with the arrest of Mrs. Rosa Parks 8 00:01:00,210 --> 00:01:02,245 for not giving up her seat to a white man. 9 00:01:02,279 --> 00:01:03,881 We walk with God. 10 00:01:03,915 --> 00:01:06,350 If we have to walk for a year, 11 00:01:06,383 --> 00:01:09,453 we'll walk until those buses are no longer segregated. 12 00:01:09,486 --> 00:01:10,722 That's what happened. 13 00:01:10,755 --> 00:01:13,223 They walked for a year and they won. 14 00:01:13,256 --> 00:01:15,525 Some of my people got pretty ticked off about that. 15 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,396 Have no fear. The Right and the white will win. 16 00:01:19,429 --> 00:01:21,264 And last year was the sit-ins 17 00:01:21,298 --> 00:01:22,800 to desegregate lunch counters 18 00:01:22,834 --> 00:01:24,102 all across the South. 19 00:01:25,402 --> 00:01:26,871 As you can see, 20 00:01:26,904 --> 00:01:28,906 a lot of white folks had a short fuse 21 00:01:28,940 --> 00:01:30,708 when it came to the Civil Rights Movement. 22 00:01:30,742 --> 00:01:31,809 Here he is. 23 00:01:31,843 --> 00:01:34,378 This group, the spark that lit their fuse 24 00:01:34,411 --> 00:01:36,179 was a college paper I got assigned to do 25 00:01:36,213 --> 00:01:37,314 with four of my friends, 26 00:01:38,750 --> 00:01:41,886 a paper on race relations. 27 00:01:43,420 --> 00:01:44,789 That's what could get you killed. 28 00:01:46,490 --> 00:01:47,625 A senior paper. 29 00:04:47,572 --> 00:04:50,675 Five months ago, life was simpler. 30 00:04:50,708 --> 00:04:52,710 Come on, baby. Let's twist. 31 00:04:53,811 --> 00:04:56,479 Wait a minute. Are you even old enough to drink? 32 00:04:56,513 --> 00:04:57,949 What is this you got growing right here? 33 00:04:57,982 --> 00:04:59,650 Got dirt on your face? What is it? 34 00:04:59,684 --> 00:05:02,053 You know, boys, I happen to think that it looks pretty good. 35 00:05:02,086 --> 00:05:04,021 You know, I got a cat back in Mississippi. 36 00:05:04,055 --> 00:05:05,022 I could lick that off for you. 37 00:05:05,056 --> 00:05:07,725 Whoa, whoa, look out, ladies and gentlemen, 38 00:05:07,758 --> 00:05:09,861 we've got a genuine bona fide scholar. 39 00:05:09,894 --> 00:05:13,430 How does a dumb country boy like you end up at top of the class? 40 00:05:13,463 --> 00:05:14,999 Hey, school has her favorites. 41 00:05:15,032 --> 00:05:16,734 You should be ashamed of yourself. 42 00:05:17,500 --> 00:05:18,970 To Bob. 43 00:05:19,003 --> 00:05:21,538 Free, white, 21. 44 00:05:21,572 --> 00:05:23,007 I'm not 21 anymore. 45 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,609 Come on, Bob. Let's dance. 46 00:05:24,642 --> 00:05:25,643 - Carol Ann. - Come on. 47 00:05:27,144 --> 00:05:28,746 Not exactly free, neither. 48 00:05:29,379 --> 00:05:32,650 Boys, look, at his dancing. 49 00:05:32,683 --> 00:05:34,051 He's definitely white. 50 00:05:49,033 --> 00:05:50,868 Okay. 51 00:05:50,902 --> 00:05:52,737 Okay, that's far enough. 52 00:05:53,838 --> 00:05:55,840 - What? - We have to stop. 53 00:05:57,808 --> 00:05:59,911 Okay. You're right. 54 00:05:59,944 --> 00:06:01,646 You promised. 55 00:06:01,679 --> 00:06:03,080 It won't be long till we're married. 56 00:06:03,114 --> 00:06:05,149 We just have to be strong. 57 00:06:08,085 --> 00:06:09,587 How do you think she did it? 58 00:06:10,154 --> 00:06:12,857 - Who? - Joan of Arc. 59 00:06:13,658 --> 00:06:15,458 She wasn't normal. 60 00:06:15,492 --> 00:06:17,094 She didn't think about sex. 61 00:06:17,128 --> 00:06:20,197 No, not, not that. She was up against everybody 62 00:06:20,231 --> 00:06:21,732 and they burned her at the stake. 63 00:06:21,766 --> 00:06:24,201 She was a little crazy. She heard voices. 64 00:06:24,235 --> 00:06:26,570 They told her what to do. 65 00:06:28,072 --> 00:06:30,841 What do your voices tell you, Bob? 66 00:06:30,875 --> 00:06:34,477 Do they say, "Get your skinny little white butt to that Black church? 67 00:06:34,511 --> 00:06:37,882 Or do they say, "Get back in line there, boy? 68 00:06:37,915 --> 00:06:39,817 "The hell do you think you're doing?" 69 00:06:39,850 --> 00:06:42,186 I already told you. There's no way. 70 00:06:42,219 --> 00:06:44,655 But all we wanna do is audit one of their meetings. 71 00:06:44,689 --> 00:06:47,625 Bob, you can't go to one of their meetings. 72 00:06:47,658 --> 00:06:49,894 The Montgomery Improvement Association is one of 73 00:06:49,927 --> 00:06:51,662 the most active civic groups here. 74 00:06:51,696 --> 00:06:54,065 And Miss Rosa Parks is in town for one of their celebrations. 75 00:06:54,098 --> 00:06:55,132 I forbid this. 76 00:06:55,166 --> 00:06:58,069 You cannot meet with Rosa Parks or any of them. 77 00:06:58,102 --> 00:06:59,203 Really? 78 00:06:59,236 --> 00:07:02,505 No Black people for a paper on race relations? 79 00:07:02,539 --> 00:07:04,507 I just didn't see how we could eliminate 80 00:07:04,541 --> 00:07:06,777 one of the races the relations were about. 81 00:07:06,811 --> 00:07:08,679 Excuse me, Dr. Abernathy. 82 00:07:09,546 --> 00:07:11,115 My name is Bob Zellner. 83 00:07:11,148 --> 00:07:12,683 This is Townsend Ellis, 84 00:07:12,717 --> 00:07:15,653 John Hill, Joe Thomas and William Head. 85 00:07:15,686 --> 00:07:17,288 And we are college seniors working on 86 00:07:17,321 --> 00:07:19,190 our thesis on race relations. 87 00:07:19,223 --> 00:07:21,092 Do you all know Mrs. Parks? 88 00:07:21,125 --> 00:07:22,793 Of course. Yes. 89 00:07:22,827 --> 00:07:25,062 You all attend the Methodist College? 90 00:07:25,096 --> 00:07:26,564 Yes, ma'am. 91 00:07:26,597 --> 00:07:27,999 They sent you over to talk to us? 92 00:07:28,032 --> 00:07:30,001 Not exactly. 93 00:07:30,034 --> 00:07:32,269 Not exactly. I see. 94 00:07:32,303 --> 00:07:34,605 We were wondering if we could ask you a few questions 95 00:07:34,638 --> 00:07:36,539 about the Montgomery Improvement Association. 96 00:07:36,574 --> 00:07:39,877 Yeah. Well, that is a laudable endeavor. 97 00:07:39,910 --> 00:07:42,013 We can only hope that more students 98 00:07:42,046 --> 00:07:44,547 would be willing to tackle such an important subject. 99 00:07:44,582 --> 00:07:46,984 We were actually wondering if, with your permission, of course, 100 00:07:47,018 --> 00:07:49,220 we could come to the celebration at your church. 101 00:07:49,253 --> 00:07:53,124 You do understand the police might want to arrest you. 102 00:07:53,157 --> 00:07:54,859 Are you all willing to make that choice? 103 00:07:54,892 --> 00:07:56,694 It ain't anything like that. 104 00:07:56,727 --> 00:07:58,062 We're not trying to stir up trouble. 105 00:07:58,095 --> 00:07:59,730 Now, now, son. 106 00:07:59,764 --> 00:08:01,799 I'm starting to wonder if you are aware 107 00:08:01,832 --> 00:08:04,769 of the poison in the apple that you have bitten into. 108 00:08:04,802 --> 00:08:07,238 You met with him. Talked to him. 109 00:08:07,271 --> 00:08:08,305 Now you got what you want. 110 00:08:08,339 --> 00:08:10,107 Get the paper done. Hand it in. 111 00:08:13,644 --> 00:08:15,012 You know I'm German. 112 00:08:15,046 --> 00:08:18,049 I've seen the Brownshirts and the Hitler Youth. 113 00:08:18,082 --> 00:08:20,651 I've seen what people are capable of. 114 00:08:21,719 --> 00:08:23,788 You've got to protect yourself. 115 00:08:25,756 --> 00:08:28,859 I'm glad to see today that we are once again, 116 00:08:28,893 --> 00:08:30,728 blessed with the company of 117 00:08:30,761 --> 00:08:33,097 State Investigator Willy B. Painter 118 00:08:33,130 --> 00:08:34,565 and Officer Fuller. 119 00:08:34,598 --> 00:08:39,270 Today we have come together in the Brick-a-Day First Baptist Church. 120 00:08:39,303 --> 00:08:42,106 And I don't think the assembled would mind 121 00:08:42,139 --> 00:08:45,176 if I lend a welcoming hand 122 00:08:45,209 --> 00:08:49,980 and thank you for so lovingly recording our messages 123 00:08:50,014 --> 00:08:51,315 for Governor Patterson. 124 00:08:51,348 --> 00:08:54,051 - Amen. Mm-hmm. - Oh, yes. Oh, yes. 125 00:08:54,085 --> 00:08:58,689 And as long as the governor is now listening, 126 00:08:58,722 --> 00:09:03,694 I'd like to ask the governor if he is aware 127 00:09:03,727 --> 00:09:08,199 of the great economic strides made here in Montgomery 128 00:09:08,232 --> 00:09:11,735 since the success of the boycott five years ago. 129 00:09:14,672 --> 00:09:19,910 It appears that freedom is not only good for the Negro 130 00:09:19,944 --> 00:09:21,846 - in Montgomery... - That's right. 131 00:09:21,879 --> 00:09:25,249 ...but the white population benefits from it as well. 132 00:09:25,282 --> 00:09:27,885 And I'd like to tell the governor 133 00:09:27,918 --> 00:09:30,621 that we are glad to help. 134 00:09:31,922 --> 00:09:33,824 But please don't be alarmed. 135 00:09:34,125 --> 00:09:35,326 Yes, sir. 136 00:09:35,359 --> 00:09:39,130 The bus boycott was only the beginning. 137 00:09:39,163 --> 00:09:44,702 We intend to benefit Montgomery much more from now on. 138 00:09:54,979 --> 00:09:58,749 It appears the police have surrounded the church. 139 00:09:58,782 --> 00:09:59,984 What do they want? 140 00:10:00,017 --> 00:10:02,353 They've come to arrest you and your friends. 141 00:10:02,386 --> 00:10:03,287 For what? 142 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,023 If I recollect, we had this conversation. 143 00:10:06,056 --> 00:10:07,291 They can't arrest us. 144 00:10:07,324 --> 00:10:10,961 The Montgomery Police Department might not do many things well, 145 00:10:10,995 --> 00:10:14,732 but arresting white boys for attending Black churches, 146 00:10:14,765 --> 00:10:16,300 they do extremely well. 147 00:10:16,333 --> 00:10:18,135 We're just doing research for a paper. 148 00:10:18,169 --> 00:10:20,304 Yeah. I mean, we haven't chosen any sides here. 149 00:10:20,337 --> 00:10:23,874 I'm not so sure the powers that be 150 00:10:23,908 --> 00:10:25,276 will so readily agree. 151 00:10:25,309 --> 00:10:28,078 Please. We gotta get out of this some way. 152 00:10:31,782 --> 00:10:33,284 There's a back door to the church. 153 00:10:33,717 --> 00:10:34,685 I'll go out front 154 00:10:34,718 --> 00:10:36,787 and draw everybody's attention around there. 155 00:10:40,391 --> 00:10:42,927 Y'all, come on. John. Eugene. 156 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,428 Y'all get up here a little closer. 157 00:10:44,461 --> 00:10:46,197 As you all are aware... 158 00:10:51,202 --> 00:10:54,171 Today we have come together to honor 159 00:10:54,205 --> 00:10:57,841 what became known as the Montgomery Bus Boycott. 160 00:10:59,043 --> 00:11:00,044 Come on. 161 00:11:01,412 --> 00:11:02,413 Thank you. 162 00:11:03,214 --> 00:11:04,515 Thank you. 163 00:11:04,548 --> 00:11:08,252 You know, there's gonna come a time when... 164 00:11:08,285 --> 00:11:11,255 something really bad happens right in front of you, 165 00:11:11,288 --> 00:11:14,425 and you're gonna have to decide which side you're on. 166 00:11:14,458 --> 00:11:18,262 Not choosing is a choice. 167 00:11:29,039 --> 00:11:32,543 Good. Good, Doc. 168 00:11:32,577 --> 00:11:34,378 Keep that guard up. Good job, buddy. 169 00:11:34,411 --> 00:11:35,913 - Yeah. - Good job. 170 00:11:35,946 --> 00:11:37,915 - Good work, Doc. Well done. - Thank you. Thanks. 171 00:11:37,948 --> 00:11:40,484 Hey, Bob, get in here. 172 00:11:42,052 --> 00:11:43,087 Don't worry about it. 173 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,755 You're not gonna need that. Come on. 174 00:11:49,526 --> 00:11:51,929 I hear the school's gonna get you for leading some kind of 175 00:11:51,962 --> 00:11:53,264 Martin Luther Coon rally. 176 00:11:54,431 --> 00:11:55,567 What are you talking about, Coach? 177 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,969 It's Reverend. I ain't your coach. 178 00:12:00,104 --> 00:12:03,841 Now, what Bob and I here are gonna demonstrate for you 179 00:12:03,874 --> 00:12:06,076 is the importance of keeping your guard up. 180 00:12:07,244 --> 00:12:08,946 - Oh! - You see? 181 00:12:09,513 --> 00:12:11,181 He let his guard down. 182 00:12:11,215 --> 00:12:12,549 Put your hands up, boy. 183 00:12:14,852 --> 00:12:17,187 What's that about? You can't take it? 184 00:12:17,221 --> 00:12:18,989 What, you don't know how to hit back? 185 00:12:19,023 --> 00:12:20,224 I can hit back. 186 00:12:26,297 --> 00:12:27,331 Hey! 187 00:12:27,364 --> 00:12:29,601 The niggers are making you soft. 188 00:12:29,634 --> 00:12:31,368 You can't at least try to fight back? 189 00:12:31,402 --> 00:12:33,237 I'll try anything three times. 190 00:12:37,408 --> 00:12:38,576 Hey! 191 00:12:38,610 --> 00:12:40,077 How's that, Reverend? 192 00:12:40,110 --> 00:12:41,512 - Is that soft enough for you? - Hey, hey! 193 00:12:41,545 --> 00:12:43,213 Back off. 194 00:12:43,247 --> 00:12:45,316 Jesus! What the hell you doing? He's an old man. 195 00:12:45,349 --> 00:12:46,884 You could kill him. 196 00:12:46,917 --> 00:12:49,086 Okay. Come on. Come on. 197 00:12:57,494 --> 00:12:59,631 As the duly elected Attorney General 198 00:12:59,664 --> 00:13:01,332 of the great State of Alabama, 199 00:13:01,365 --> 00:13:02,734 I look at you and I ask myself 200 00:13:02,767 --> 00:13:08,339 what makes five young, upstanding Southern scholars like yourselves 201 00:13:08,372 --> 00:13:12,009 go march and sit in 202 00:13:12,042 --> 00:13:16,213 and demonstrate and generally disrupt the peace? 203 00:13:17,414 --> 00:13:19,116 Excuse me, son. You have to speak up. 204 00:13:19,149 --> 00:13:21,185 We never did any of that. 205 00:13:21,218 --> 00:13:23,621 March, sit in, demonstrate. 206 00:13:23,655 --> 00:13:26,658 You have fallen under the influence of the communists. 207 00:13:26,691 --> 00:13:28,392 There's communists in Alabama? 208 00:13:28,425 --> 00:13:31,596 Well, no. 209 00:13:31,629 --> 00:13:33,330 But they come through here. 210 00:13:33,364 --> 00:13:36,033 I'm gonna read you a list of names and I want you to tell me 211 00:13:36,066 --> 00:13:38,435 which ones you've met with. 212 00:13:38,469 --> 00:13:40,304 Virginia and Clifford Durr, 213 00:13:41,673 --> 00:13:43,540 Anne and Carl Braden, 214 00:13:45,142 --> 00:13:47,144 Aubrey Williams. 215 00:13:47,177 --> 00:13:48,445 Do you know these individuals? 216 00:13:48,479 --> 00:13:50,948 - No. - No, sir, I don't. 217 00:13:50,981 --> 00:13:52,349 None of them are in Alabama? 218 00:13:52,383 --> 00:13:53,618 Well, the Durrs are here. 219 00:13:53,651 --> 00:13:58,355 Now you boys are being expelled. 220 00:13:58,389 --> 00:14:00,924 - What? - Asked to leave. 221 00:14:00,958 --> 00:14:04,495 All right. Asked to leave. 222 00:14:05,764 --> 00:14:09,299 For the sake of the college, we have negotiated a resolution. 223 00:14:09,333 --> 00:14:12,536 You will not be charged with any crimes 224 00:14:12,570 --> 00:14:15,139 if you resign from school 225 00:14:15,172 --> 00:14:17,541 and leave the city of Montgomery immediately. 226 00:14:17,575 --> 00:14:20,144 School has agreed to this. I think it's more than fair. 227 00:14:20,177 --> 00:14:22,680 I have no idea what crimes we've committed. 228 00:14:22,714 --> 00:14:25,282 So I see no crime for which we could be charged. 229 00:14:25,315 --> 00:14:27,418 There are two members of this group who have achieved 230 00:14:27,451 --> 00:14:29,621 the highest scholastic honors given by this institution. 231 00:14:29,654 --> 00:14:34,091 Now, this close to graduation, I will not voluntarily leave. 232 00:14:34,124 --> 00:14:36,994 I think you're making a mistake there, son. 233 00:14:37,027 --> 00:14:38,563 Look at there. 234 00:14:38,596 --> 00:14:41,198 This is what this was all about, wasn't it? 235 00:14:41,231 --> 00:14:43,434 You're a big man now. You're on the front page. 236 00:14:43,467 --> 00:14:44,968 You think I put us in the paper? 237 00:14:45,002 --> 00:14:46,470 You don't care who you ruined. 238 00:14:46,503 --> 00:14:49,473 Townsend, I never called the paper. I swear. 239 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,341 I just can't imagine why 240 00:14:51,375 --> 00:14:52,677 everybody's drawers are in an uproar. 241 00:14:52,710 --> 00:14:55,145 We're in Alabama. 242 00:14:55,179 --> 00:14:57,548 But don't you think this is its own shade of crazy? 243 00:14:57,582 --> 00:14:59,082 I mean, what the hell do we do? 244 00:14:59,116 --> 00:15:00,718 You did what you did 245 00:15:00,752 --> 00:15:02,252 and drug me and John in it with you. 246 00:15:02,286 --> 00:15:04,622 And what did I do, Townsend? Exactly what did I do? 247 00:15:04,656 --> 00:15:07,024 You know, for a big boy, you sure are shit scared 248 00:15:07,057 --> 00:15:08,125 of your own shadow sometimes. 249 00:15:08,158 --> 00:15:11,195 Hey, Zellner. Ku Klux Klan's about to march on campus 250 00:15:11,228 --> 00:15:12,429 because of what you did. 251 00:15:12,463 --> 00:15:14,531 Professor Kleiner's got a whole bunch of boys down yonder. 252 00:15:14,566 --> 00:15:16,734 Come on, man, we gotta go. Shit's about to hit the fan. 253 00:15:29,313 --> 00:15:32,049 Those rowdies have been telling us 254 00:15:32,082 --> 00:15:35,419 to send the "nigger lovers" over. 255 00:15:35,452 --> 00:15:38,288 That's outta line, Bob, calling you a "nigger lover." 256 00:15:38,322 --> 00:15:39,223 That's all that happened? 257 00:15:39,256 --> 00:15:42,326 No, no, no. They tried to come on campus. 258 00:15:42,359 --> 00:15:43,628 They wanted to get all five of us. 259 00:15:43,661 --> 00:15:46,263 They called you sons of you know what. 260 00:15:46,296 --> 00:15:48,666 We told them you're definitely sons of you-know-what, 261 00:15:48,700 --> 00:15:50,434 but you're our sons of you-know-what. 262 00:15:50,467 --> 00:15:53,170 And no one's coming on campus to do anything to anybody. 263 00:15:53,203 --> 00:15:55,740 This ain't right. I'm gonna go straighten these boys out. 264 00:15:56,841 --> 00:15:58,041 Bobby! 265 00:15:59,543 --> 00:16:01,278 Grandaddy? 266 00:16:01,311 --> 00:16:02,513 Bobby, you're looking thin. 267 00:16:02,546 --> 00:16:04,314 Grandaddy, what are you doing out here? 268 00:16:04,348 --> 00:16:05,215 They figured out who was who 269 00:16:05,249 --> 00:16:08,318 and they called me down from Birmingham. 270 00:16:08,352 --> 00:16:11,556 They tell me you went to some, uh, nigger convention 271 00:16:11,589 --> 00:16:14,324 - or demonstration or something. - Wasn't anything like that. 272 00:16:14,358 --> 00:16:17,595 We're just doing a paper for our professor over there. 273 00:16:17,629 --> 00:16:20,163 So this is all about school work? 274 00:16:20,197 --> 00:16:22,132 - Is that what you're telling me? - Yeah. 275 00:16:24,301 --> 00:16:26,169 Did you burn that cross under our dorm room? 276 00:16:26,203 --> 00:16:27,739 Bob, you should know better than that. 277 00:16:29,574 --> 00:16:30,608 But I'm gonna tell you something. 278 00:16:30,642 --> 00:16:32,109 Some of these old boys around here, 279 00:16:32,142 --> 00:16:33,477 they really mean to do you some harm. 280 00:16:33,510 --> 00:16:35,112 It's good they didn't catch me alone. 281 00:16:35,145 --> 00:16:37,147 Do you think that professor saved you? 282 00:16:37,180 --> 00:16:38,616 Have enough of those boys that, 283 00:16:38,650 --> 00:16:41,819 they killed their share of Nazis back in the big one. 284 00:16:41,853 --> 00:16:43,487 I don't think one more dead Kraut 285 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:44,789 would bother them very much. 286 00:16:45,857 --> 00:16:47,424 I stopped them, Bob. 287 00:16:47,457 --> 00:16:50,260 Daddy, Daddy, just hold it right there. 288 00:16:50,294 --> 00:16:52,462 It's all your fault. You know that, don't you? 289 00:16:52,496 --> 00:16:55,165 - That's my fault? - You're goddamn right, it is. 290 00:16:55,198 --> 00:16:58,603 Taught this boy right from wrong right from the get-go, 291 00:16:58,636 --> 00:17:00,504 he wouldn't have gotten himself into any trouble. 292 00:17:00,537 --> 00:17:02,506 I wouldn't have to be down here trying to get him out of it. 293 00:17:02,539 --> 00:17:04,876 So when did it become a capital offense to go to church? 294 00:17:04,909 --> 00:17:06,209 White or colored? 295 00:17:08,378 --> 00:17:11,281 I'm heading back up to Birmingham a little while. 296 00:17:11,315 --> 00:17:12,449 All right. 297 00:17:16,286 --> 00:17:18,355 Look around you, Townsend, we've got support. 298 00:17:18,388 --> 00:17:19,857 Nobody has to leave school. 299 00:17:19,891 --> 00:17:21,491 No, you got support, Bob. 300 00:17:21,525 --> 00:17:24,294 If the Klan or school touches a hair on your head, 301 00:17:24,328 --> 00:17:26,196 your daddy will show up with 20 liberal preachers 302 00:17:26,229 --> 00:17:27,899 to protect your skinny little ass. 303 00:17:27,932 --> 00:17:29,366 No offense, Mr. Zellner. 304 00:17:29,399 --> 00:17:31,401 I'm here for you too, son. 305 00:17:31,435 --> 00:17:33,437 It's a nice thought, sir, but it's not altogether true. 306 00:17:34,371 --> 00:17:36,340 The rest of us, we're leaving. 307 00:17:36,373 --> 00:17:39,911 We're going back to Mobile and Union Springs and Dothan. 308 00:17:39,944 --> 00:17:42,212 What do you think our families are gonna do when we get there? 309 00:17:42,245 --> 00:17:44,448 Gonna help pick out the limb the Klan's gonna hang us from. 310 00:17:44,481 --> 00:17:46,618 I know it looks scary from where you're standing right now. 311 00:17:46,651 --> 00:17:48,218 You got options, Bob. 312 00:17:48,251 --> 00:17:51,355 That's why in your head, this is just some big game. 313 00:17:51,388 --> 00:17:54,358 You do not have the commitment of someone like Rosa Parks. 314 00:17:54,391 --> 00:17:57,527 You're going off to some impressive school in the fall. 315 00:17:57,562 --> 00:17:59,797 - Full scholarship. - Yeah, and I worked hard for that. 316 00:17:59,831 --> 00:18:00,732 Yeah, so did I. Bob. 317 00:18:00,765 --> 00:18:02,299 Which one do you think you're gonna pick? 318 00:18:03,233 --> 00:18:06,269 - Yale? Princeton? - Harvard? 319 00:18:08,372 --> 00:18:10,407 You'll have a hell of a story to tell 'em when you get there. 320 00:18:11,475 --> 00:18:12,476 Excuse me. 321 00:18:40,537 --> 00:18:43,473 Virginia and Clifford Durr. 322 00:18:46,978 --> 00:18:48,713 This is where they live? 323 00:18:49,446 --> 00:18:50,447 Wow. 324 00:19:05,763 --> 00:19:06,998 Hello. You've reached the Durrs. 325 00:19:07,031 --> 00:19:09,634 Mrs. Durr, my name is Bob Zellner, 326 00:19:09,667 --> 00:19:12,502 and I'm a student over at Huntingdon College. 327 00:19:14,672 --> 00:19:18,676 Everybody, everybody, here he is! 328 00:19:18,710 --> 00:19:20,678 Mr. Bob Zellner 329 00:19:20,712 --> 00:19:23,581 of the illustrious Huntingdon farm. 330 00:19:23,614 --> 00:19:26,017 Bob, I am so glad you called. 331 00:19:26,050 --> 00:19:29,587 I'm Virginia. This is my... my husband, Clifford. 332 00:19:29,620 --> 00:19:31,455 - And you are? - I'm Carol Ann Dunlap, 333 00:19:31,488 --> 00:19:32,890 Bob's fiance. 334 00:19:32,924 --> 00:19:34,959 - Hello, Bob. - Mrs. Parks. 335 00:19:34,992 --> 00:19:37,260 Uh, and this is Aubrey Williams 336 00:19:37,294 --> 00:19:39,931 and his Yankee assistant for the summer, 337 00:19:39,964 --> 00:19:41,833 Mr. Derek Ang. 338 00:19:41,866 --> 00:19:43,668 - The Communist. - I know. 339 00:19:43,701 --> 00:19:46,369 - Where you from, Carol Ann? - Union Springs. 340 00:19:46,403 --> 00:19:49,272 Any relationship to Martin Dunlap? 341 00:19:49,306 --> 00:19:50,540 He's my grandaddy. 342 00:19:52,309 --> 00:19:54,779 Looks like you're moving up in the world, Mr. Zellner. 343 00:19:56,581 --> 00:19:59,549 Well, y'all sure are stirring up the Methodist wasp nest 344 00:19:59,584 --> 00:20:01,351 pretty good over there at the college. 345 00:20:01,384 --> 00:20:02,620 Well, they're doing all the stirring. 346 00:20:02,653 --> 00:20:04,021 We're just trying to stay out of the way. 347 00:20:04,055 --> 00:20:05,189 A bunch of hypocrites. 348 00:20:05,223 --> 00:20:07,825 They stripped his right to give the commencement speech. 349 00:20:07,859 --> 00:20:09,927 They'd like to kick him out altogether. 350 00:20:09,961 --> 00:20:12,429 You know, Clifford is an attorney. 351 00:20:13,030 --> 00:20:14,065 A lawyer? 352 00:20:14,098 --> 00:20:15,398 That's what they keep telling me. 353 00:20:16,634 --> 00:20:20,004 Sir, over and over, I get the feeling we broke the law. 354 00:20:20,037 --> 00:20:21,538 Because you did. 355 00:20:21,572 --> 00:20:22,940 - What law is that? - Mm. 356 00:20:22,974 --> 00:20:25,843 They broke the law that people don't have the rights 357 00:20:25,877 --> 00:20:28,980 to do anything the Ku Klux Klan doesn't want them to do. 358 00:20:29,013 --> 00:20:30,848 Bunch of cowards. 359 00:20:30,882 --> 00:20:35,318 We have fought far tougher enemies than them. 360 00:20:35,352 --> 00:20:37,387 We're still having so much trouble with 361 00:20:37,420 --> 00:20:41,391 all these silly, scared white men hiding under hoods. 362 00:20:41,424 --> 00:20:42,760 I just don't understand it. 363 00:20:42,794 --> 00:20:46,363 Well, if you understand the Southern mind... 364 00:20:46,396 --> 00:20:48,099 Clifford, I believe I have a Southern mind, 365 00:20:48,132 --> 00:20:50,101 and I believe I have an understanding of it. 366 00:20:50,134 --> 00:20:53,871 Everybody here, with the exception of Derek Ang, 367 00:20:53,905 --> 00:20:55,740 has a Southern mind. 368 00:20:55,773 --> 00:20:58,743 Even Bob knows he broke the law of the KKK. 369 00:20:58,776 --> 00:21:00,978 Bob's more like you, Mrs. Parks, 370 00:21:01,012 --> 00:21:03,346 when you refused to get up from your seat. 371 00:21:03,380 --> 00:21:05,716 He didn't think all this was gonna lead to anything. 372 00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:09,419 Yeah, I was just a poor little seamstress 373 00:21:09,452 --> 00:21:10,955 tired from her day. 374 00:21:13,024 --> 00:21:14,391 Am I missing something? 375 00:21:15,159 --> 00:21:16,861 Are you saying... 376 00:21:16,894 --> 00:21:18,361 you knew what you were doing? 377 00:21:18,395 --> 00:21:20,097 You think I am a child? 378 00:21:21,531 --> 00:21:24,068 We had to change the bus laws. 379 00:21:24,101 --> 00:21:27,504 Therefore, somebody had to refuse to get up. 380 00:21:27,537 --> 00:21:28,673 You knew, getting on that bus, 381 00:21:28,706 --> 00:21:30,107 that you were gonna get arrested. 382 00:21:30,141 --> 00:21:32,844 Well, not that particular bus and... 383 00:21:32,877 --> 00:21:36,513 I wasn't sure I'd ever do it, but still... 384 00:21:36,546 --> 00:21:39,584 pretty interested to see what rights I had or not. 385 00:21:39,617 --> 00:21:42,553 A lot of it was worked out at Highlander. 386 00:21:42,587 --> 00:21:45,623 I read that Tennessee is trying to shut the school down. 387 00:21:45,656 --> 00:21:47,024 - Oh, again? - Highlander? 388 00:21:47,058 --> 00:21:50,127 It's a center where people, Black and white, 389 00:21:50,161 --> 00:21:52,495 from all across the South 390 00:21:52,529 --> 00:21:57,168 come to work and study political action together. 391 00:21:57,201 --> 00:21:58,501 And you've been up there? 392 00:21:58,535 --> 00:22:00,503 Oh, we've all been. That's right. 393 00:22:01,672 --> 00:22:04,041 I really did know what I was doing. 394 00:22:04,075 --> 00:22:05,910 Maybe you'll be up there soon. 395 00:22:05,943 --> 00:22:07,845 I'm sorry, but I won't be going anywhere 396 00:22:07,879 --> 00:22:10,547 but up north for graduate school in the fall. 397 00:22:10,581 --> 00:22:13,450 Is that so important for you to do it right away? 398 00:22:13,483 --> 00:22:14,852 Yes, ma'am, it is. 399 00:22:14,886 --> 00:22:17,154 I mean, most of my family didn't even make it through high school. 400 00:22:17,188 --> 00:22:19,790 So getting to go off on a full scholarship 401 00:22:19,824 --> 00:22:21,993 to get a masters is a pretty big deal. 402 00:22:22,026 --> 00:22:24,461 He has already jeopardized that once. 403 00:22:24,494 --> 00:22:28,199 When we read about you in the papers, 404 00:22:28,232 --> 00:22:30,533 we thought we'd found somebody. 405 00:22:30,568 --> 00:22:32,637 Find somebody like who? 406 00:22:32,670 --> 00:22:35,538 We have a need for somebody like Bob, 407 00:22:35,573 --> 00:22:38,843 somebody who could speak to other white students 408 00:22:38,876 --> 00:22:40,144 throughout the South. 409 00:22:40,177 --> 00:22:43,681 I'm sure that's needed, but we do have plans 410 00:22:43,714 --> 00:22:46,784 and none of them include Bob ending up in jail. 411 00:22:46,817 --> 00:22:49,519 Things have got to change, Bob. 412 00:22:49,553 --> 00:22:50,988 Mm-hm. - I know you know that. 413 00:22:51,022 --> 00:22:53,090 I think we both know that things have to change, 414 00:22:53,991 --> 00:22:55,092 don't we, Carol Ann? 415 00:22:56,661 --> 00:22:58,763 But maybe there's a better way. 416 00:22:58,796 --> 00:23:00,865 Without risking too much? 417 00:23:00,898 --> 00:23:03,466 Maybe. I mean, we do live in a democracy. 418 00:23:03,500 --> 00:23:05,636 It's a republic, actually, 419 00:23:05,670 --> 00:23:08,139 which is what Germany was when Hitler rose to power. 420 00:23:08,172 --> 00:23:10,741 In 1939, in Nazi Germany, 421 00:23:10,775 --> 00:23:14,578 they had a law that said all the Jews were supposed to pack up their bags 422 00:23:14,612 --> 00:23:16,013 and get down to the train depot. 423 00:23:17,615 --> 00:23:19,449 Now that seems like a pretty good law to break, 424 00:23:20,151 --> 00:23:21,819 wouldn't you say? 425 00:23:21,852 --> 00:23:23,120 Where are you from? 426 00:23:23,154 --> 00:23:24,989 I'm from New York. 427 00:23:25,022 --> 00:23:27,892 But if you're looking for somewhere more exotic, 428 00:23:27,925 --> 00:23:29,727 my family came over from California. 429 00:23:32,529 --> 00:23:35,532 Well, what are you doing all the way down here? 430 00:23:35,566 --> 00:23:38,202 Trying to find out where they buried freedom, brother. 431 00:23:38,235 --> 00:23:39,469 What are you doing here? 432 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,610 Well, that woman was a handful. 433 00:23:46,644 --> 00:23:51,649 How arrogant to decide the fate of people you never even met. 434 00:23:51,682 --> 00:23:54,552 We had our lives all planned out for us in there. 435 00:23:55,853 --> 00:23:57,989 I did something with somebody once. 436 00:24:00,057 --> 00:24:01,892 What are you talking about? 437 00:24:01,926 --> 00:24:04,862 I got in the wrong car one day, and... 438 00:24:04,895 --> 00:24:06,163 we went nigger knocking. 439 00:24:14,805 --> 00:24:16,841 Ooh! You got her. 440 00:24:16,874 --> 00:24:18,876 Yeah, but the sumbitches just broke my stick. 441 00:24:18,909 --> 00:24:20,211 Yeah, but what do you expect? 442 00:24:20,244 --> 00:24:22,213 That ain't a real nigger-knocking stick. 443 00:24:22,246 --> 00:24:23,881 We got a bat in the back. Boys, do you see it? 444 00:24:23,914 --> 00:24:25,282 You can hardly hit 'em with this. 445 00:24:25,316 --> 00:24:26,784 Yeah, but when you do... 446 00:24:26,817 --> 00:24:27,852 Lookie there. 447 00:24:30,054 --> 00:24:32,023 Skeeter, get that bat. Get that, boy. 448 00:24:35,092 --> 00:24:36,127 Get him. 449 00:24:36,660 --> 00:24:37,762 Ah! You missed him. 450 00:24:37,795 --> 00:24:40,664 - But he fell. - Yeah, well, you still missed him. 451 00:24:44,335 --> 00:24:46,904 See that coon up there, Bob? 452 00:24:46,937 --> 00:24:49,573 - Yeah, I see him. - I want you to get him. 453 00:24:49,607 --> 00:24:51,208 I don't know about this. 454 00:24:51,242 --> 00:24:53,711 You don't know? What's there to know? 455 00:24:53,744 --> 00:24:55,146 About this sort of thing. 456 00:24:55,179 --> 00:24:58,582 Hey, this is in your blood. 457 00:24:58,616 --> 00:25:00,117 All right? This is where you belong, boy. 458 00:25:01,385 --> 00:25:02,920 You grab that bat and you do what's right. 459 00:25:02,953 --> 00:25:04,088 Bob, you gotta do this. 460 00:25:04,121 --> 00:25:05,189 I don't think so. 461 00:25:05,222 --> 00:25:08,359 Skeeter, you told me he was the right kind of guy. 462 00:25:08,392 --> 00:25:10,928 Is he? Is he the right kind of guy? 463 00:25:10,961 --> 00:25:12,696 Bob. 464 00:25:12,730 --> 00:25:14,131 Take the goddamn bat. 465 00:25:14,832 --> 00:25:16,067 Take it. 466 00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:18,702 You don't get that nigger, we're gonna use that bat on you. 467 00:25:35,986 --> 00:25:37,655 How bad did you hurt that kid? 468 00:25:37,688 --> 00:25:38,689 Bad. 469 00:25:54,138 --> 00:25:56,740 Hey! Hey! 470 00:25:58,209 --> 00:25:59,977 Need some help? 471 00:26:00,010 --> 00:26:01,178 You look like you need some help. 472 00:26:03,347 --> 00:26:04,381 What's your game? 473 00:26:05,916 --> 00:26:08,385 No game. Just being friendly. 474 00:26:10,754 --> 00:26:11,989 I know you from somewhere? 475 00:26:12,022 --> 00:26:13,991 I-I don't think so. 476 00:26:14,024 --> 00:26:15,826 I got a bike with a basket on it though. 477 00:26:16,393 --> 00:26:17,394 I see. 478 00:26:19,964 --> 00:26:21,165 What happened to your arm? 479 00:26:22,032 --> 00:26:23,033 I fell. 480 00:26:24,401 --> 00:26:26,203 I should've told him it was me. 481 00:26:26,237 --> 00:26:28,706 I should have apologized, but it's... 482 00:26:28,739 --> 00:26:30,741 hard to explain to a perfect stranger 483 00:26:30,774 --> 00:26:33,878 why you do something as senseless as that. 484 00:26:33,911 --> 00:26:35,779 I don't even know why I did it. 485 00:26:35,813 --> 00:26:37,014 I was just... 486 00:26:37,982 --> 00:26:39,984 scared, I guess, but... 487 00:26:42,286 --> 00:26:43,721 looking at that boy... 488 00:26:45,389 --> 00:26:47,825 I wish it was me they had beaten with that bat. 489 00:26:50,928 --> 00:26:52,930 We will continue our Freedom Ride 490 00:26:52,963 --> 00:26:55,032 from Birmingham and onto Montgomery. 491 00:26:55,065 --> 00:26:56,500 And from there, we plan to travel 492 00:26:56,534 --> 00:27:00,204 all the way to New Orleans with a stop in Jackson, Mississippi. 493 00:27:00,237 --> 00:27:01,238 And do you expect 494 00:27:01,272 --> 00:27:04,175 the authorities in these cities to allow that? 495 00:27:04,208 --> 00:27:08,012 Uh, I'm not certain about the local authorities. 496 00:27:08,045 --> 00:27:10,347 We are testing the resolve of the federal government 497 00:27:10,381 --> 00:27:13,717 to enforce the Interstate Commerce Commission ruling, 498 00:27:13,751 --> 00:27:18,122 which gives each and every American citizen the right to use the facilities equally. 499 00:27:18,155 --> 00:27:20,758 Aren't you concerned that they'll burn this bus 500 00:27:20,791 --> 00:27:23,894 the same way they burned one in Anniston just two days ago? 501 00:27:23,928 --> 00:27:25,863 Acting like he's as good as me. 502 00:27:27,531 --> 00:27:29,934 Well, I didn't take care of the yellow bastards in Korea 503 00:27:29,967 --> 00:27:32,236 to be pushed around by the Black ones back here. 504 00:27:33,470 --> 00:27:35,172 Weren't you a medic, Doc? 505 00:27:36,540 --> 00:27:38,876 Yes, I was. 506 00:27:38,909 --> 00:27:40,911 And I even saved some of those Black sons of guns 507 00:27:40,945 --> 00:27:42,379 when they got themselves shot up. 508 00:27:42,413 --> 00:27:44,148 Drug one, must have been 200 pounds, 509 00:27:44,181 --> 00:27:45,249 the length of a football field. 510 00:27:45,282 --> 00:27:47,017 Bullets whizzing all around our heads. 511 00:27:48,085 --> 00:27:50,221 Yeah, you do crazy things in war. 512 00:27:50,254 --> 00:27:52,223 But we are not in the war now. 513 00:27:52,256 --> 00:27:53,991 How do you feel generally 514 00:27:54,024 --> 00:27:55,993 about Freedom Riders and groups like that? 515 00:27:56,026 --> 00:27:57,928 I think they're just asking for trouble. 516 00:27:57,962 --> 00:27:59,330 It's not gonna last too long 517 00:27:59,363 --> 00:28:02,166 before the people down here get a little antagonized with it, 518 00:28:02,199 --> 00:28:04,034 and they're gonna take it into their own hands. 519 00:28:04,068 --> 00:28:07,204 I just think we ought to have open season on all of 'em. 520 00:28:07,238 --> 00:28:09,406 Freedom Riders are waiting for a bus to take them 521 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,308 to their next stop, Montgomery, Alabama. 522 00:28:11,342 --> 00:28:12,376 Where are you going? 523 00:28:12,409 --> 00:28:13,811 Are they crazy? 524 00:28:13,844 --> 00:28:16,447 Montgomery's gonna make Anniston look like a Sunday go-to meeting. 525 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,383 We already set up to create as much protection as possible 526 00:28:19,416 --> 00:28:20,517 for them when they arrive. 527 00:28:20,551 --> 00:28:22,119 You got guns? 528 00:28:22,152 --> 00:28:23,887 We're gonna meet the bus 529 00:28:23,921 --> 00:28:26,857 and get everybody into automobiles into safety 530 00:28:26,890 --> 00:28:28,158 just as quick as possible. 531 00:28:29,526 --> 00:28:32,396 I was hoping that you might wanna volunteer. 532 00:28:32,429 --> 00:28:34,098 You must think I've lost my mind. 533 00:28:34,131 --> 00:28:36,200 I'm going to go down and meet 'em when they get here. 534 00:28:36,233 --> 00:28:37,669 You think you're invisible? 535 00:28:37,702 --> 00:28:41,405 All those folks down there are gonna see is dark hair and dark skin, 536 00:28:41,438 --> 00:28:43,173 and they're gonna think that you're a Freedom Rider. 537 00:28:45,509 --> 00:28:47,011 We could use you, Bob. 538 00:28:53,350 --> 00:28:55,886 You see the TV? What would give somebody the courage 539 00:28:55,919 --> 00:28:58,122 to put their butts in the frying pan like that? 540 00:29:00,592 --> 00:29:02,026 I couldn't do it. 541 00:29:02,059 --> 00:29:03,093 Derek... 542 00:29:04,361 --> 00:29:05,863 Why are you really down here? 543 00:29:05,896 --> 00:29:06,930 It's like you said. 544 00:29:07,931 --> 00:29:10,834 Black hair, darker skin. 545 00:29:10,868 --> 00:29:14,038 My family got brought over here as labor too, you know. 546 00:29:14,071 --> 00:29:16,907 Well, yeah, but they weren't slaves. 547 00:29:16,940 --> 00:29:17,975 Of course not. 548 00:29:19,611 --> 00:29:21,312 I'm fourth-generation American. 549 00:29:23,113 --> 00:29:25,983 Still, when I was a kid during the war, 550 00:29:26,016 --> 00:29:29,086 my parents got me to wear this sign every day. 551 00:29:29,119 --> 00:29:31,255 It said, "I am Chinese." 552 00:29:33,290 --> 00:29:34,291 That's strange. 553 00:29:35,125 --> 00:29:36,193 Not really. 554 00:29:38,663 --> 00:29:40,164 They didn't want me to get arrested 555 00:29:40,197 --> 00:29:42,132 or get beaten up for being Japanese. 556 00:29:44,368 --> 00:29:45,502 The sign. 557 00:29:47,004 --> 00:29:48,472 Scared the hell out of me. 558 00:29:48,505 --> 00:29:50,274 Want to know what's really messed up, though? 559 00:29:53,678 --> 00:29:55,179 I was just so glad. 560 00:29:56,581 --> 00:29:58,349 So glad I wasn't Japanese. 561 00:30:00,217 --> 00:30:01,285 Them, not me. 562 00:30:02,052 --> 00:30:03,087 Them, not me. 563 00:30:05,456 --> 00:30:07,592 The Greyhound bus company has finally agreed 564 00:30:07,625 --> 00:30:09,426 to provide a driver and a bus 565 00:30:09,460 --> 00:30:12,630 to carry the Freedom Riders from Birmingham to Montgomery. 566 00:30:12,664 --> 00:30:15,633 They'll be escorted along the way by Alabama State troopers, 567 00:30:15,667 --> 00:30:17,334 led by Floyd Mann. 568 00:30:17,368 --> 00:30:20,237 They should be arriving in Montgomery soon. 569 00:30:20,270 --> 00:30:22,539 - Shoot. It's your nickel. - Bob, 570 00:30:22,574 --> 00:30:25,677 the Freedom Riders have already left from Birmingham. 571 00:30:25,710 --> 00:30:27,478 I'm down at Clifford's office. 572 00:30:27,511 --> 00:30:29,380 Can you pick up Derek at my house? 573 00:30:31,215 --> 00:30:33,050 You know, 574 00:30:33,083 --> 00:30:35,620 I never said I was gonna go down there to get anybody. 575 00:30:35,653 --> 00:30:37,689 Why? Well, what's the matter? 576 00:30:37,722 --> 00:30:39,223 Well, I got the habit of breathing, 577 00:30:39,256 --> 00:30:41,325 and I don't really feel like giving it up too soon. 578 00:30:41,358 --> 00:30:43,260 So you don't care what happens to them? 579 00:30:43,293 --> 00:30:45,329 This was their choosing. 580 00:30:45,362 --> 00:30:47,398 Okay, I get it. Give me your keys. 581 00:30:47,431 --> 00:30:49,533 All right, simmer down. 582 00:30:49,567 --> 00:30:52,369 - I'll get you close. - All right. 583 00:30:55,305 --> 00:30:57,575 - Are they here yet? - They're here. 584 00:31:07,284 --> 00:31:09,019 Where's that police car going? 585 00:31:12,690 --> 00:31:14,626 God, this doesn't look right. 586 00:31:15,993 --> 00:31:17,227 Maybe it's early. 587 00:31:22,299 --> 00:31:24,501 - John Lewis! - Excuse me, John Lewis! 588 00:31:34,411 --> 00:31:36,046 Mr. Lewis, please. We have some questions. 589 00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:38,248 How can you possibly succeed with so few of you? 590 00:31:56,133 --> 00:31:57,234 Non-violence. 591 00:31:57,267 --> 00:31:59,236 ...be overcome by violence... 592 00:32:02,574 --> 00:32:06,711 Freedom Riders have landed on the shores of Montgomery. 593 00:32:06,744 --> 00:32:09,581 And at this very moment, they're at the bus depot 594 00:32:09,614 --> 00:32:12,549 with their white cohorts right there with them, 595 00:32:12,584 --> 00:32:16,220 not white Americans but Red Army commies 596 00:32:16,253 --> 00:32:19,456 sent here directly by the Kremlin. 597 00:32:28,365 --> 00:32:30,802 - Get us outta here. - I can't drive her. 598 00:32:30,835 --> 00:32:33,103 - These people will tear me apart. - You can't leave us here. 599 00:32:33,136 --> 00:32:35,272 It'll look like I'm hitting her with nothing but a purse. 600 00:32:40,110 --> 00:32:43,681 They have arrived with weapons, that I know. 601 00:32:43,715 --> 00:32:46,116 They are armed to the teeth. 602 00:32:46,149 --> 00:32:47,752 So take whatever you can grab, 603 00:32:47,785 --> 00:32:50,755 bats, chains, sticks and bricks, 604 00:32:50,788 --> 00:32:54,692 get down there, and stop these commies in their tracks. 605 00:33:06,537 --> 00:33:08,539 Please! Please! Stop it! 606 00:33:08,573 --> 00:33:12,175 Hey! Don't! Please! Please! 607 00:33:18,348 --> 00:33:21,385 I bet you ain't happy you came to Montgomery, now, boy. 608 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,060 - Sweet Jesus! - Oh! 609 00:33:31,796 --> 00:33:32,864 We don't know what happened, 610 00:33:32,897 --> 00:33:34,398 but you're finally here. Thank God. 611 00:33:34,431 --> 00:33:36,634 Bob, you see that woman in the pink dress? 612 00:33:36,668 --> 00:33:38,302 Her name is Jessica Mitford. 613 00:33:38,335 --> 00:33:39,236 Can you try and get her? 614 00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:41,606 Okay. Wait. Where are you going? 615 00:33:41,639 --> 00:33:43,140 If you're going, I'm going. 616 00:33:43,775 --> 00:33:45,175 What? 617 00:33:46,611 --> 00:33:48,178 I'm only doing this once. 618 00:34:05,362 --> 00:34:07,130 Hey, you all right? 619 00:34:07,999 --> 00:34:09,767 Hey, are you... Are you Jessica Mitford? 620 00:34:09,801 --> 00:34:12,135 - Who wants to know? - I don't think it's the best place to... 621 00:34:12,169 --> 00:34:14,471 What do you think? That you and your bullies here are gonna frighten me? 622 00:34:14,504 --> 00:34:15,873 I have seen... 623 00:34:16,506 --> 00:34:18,610 Let go of me this instant. 624 00:34:18,643 --> 00:34:21,111 Hey, I'm the press. Esquire magazine. 625 00:34:22,312 --> 00:34:23,848 Virginia sent me. She's right up there. 626 00:34:23,881 --> 00:34:25,883 Can you just walk away from me this instant? 627 00:34:25,917 --> 00:34:27,585 Virginia Durr! 628 00:34:28,953 --> 00:34:30,755 - Who are you? - Someone trying to keep you 629 00:34:30,788 --> 00:34:32,724 from getting your head busted. Now come on! 630 00:34:35,727 --> 00:34:37,394 Get in. 631 00:34:38,328 --> 00:34:39,363 Let's go! 632 00:34:41,699 --> 00:34:44,468 - Are you okay? - I can't believe you sent that young man to rescue me. 633 00:34:44,501 --> 00:34:45,903 I was completely fine. 634 00:34:45,937 --> 00:34:48,538 Slightest danger at all. You know, there are some young girls out there. 635 00:34:48,573 --> 00:34:51,676 Ran into that building, the one with the horribly reproduced Greek facade. 636 00:34:51,709 --> 00:34:53,410 Courthouse? 637 00:34:53,443 --> 00:34:54,746 They... They need some help. 638 00:34:55,345 --> 00:34:56,881 Bob? 639 00:34:56,914 --> 00:34:58,215 Well, hop to it. Go on. 640 00:34:59,817 --> 00:35:02,386 This is a formal injunction. 641 00:35:02,419 --> 00:35:04,555 I'm reading you the riot act. 642 00:35:04,589 --> 00:35:07,424 Forbidding persons named and unnamed... 643 00:35:10,962 --> 00:35:12,262 This is a hearse. 644 00:35:24,341 --> 00:35:27,244 There'll be no killing here today. 645 00:35:27,979 --> 00:35:30,615 This is over. 646 00:35:30,648 --> 00:35:33,250 Floyd Mann, you ain't supposed to be here. 647 00:35:33,283 --> 00:35:35,787 We are not having a discussion here. 648 00:35:35,820 --> 00:35:39,657 The next shot I fire will not be a warning. 649 00:35:39,691 --> 00:35:41,926 ...in the State of Alabama, to engage 650 00:35:41,959 --> 00:35:44,662 in the so-called Freedom Ride 651 00:35:44,696 --> 00:35:48,365 and other acts or conduct calculated to promote 652 00:35:48,398 --> 00:35:49,901 breaches of the peace. 653 00:36:11,789 --> 00:36:13,825 Hey! 654 00:36:13,858 --> 00:36:15,927 No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm here to get you. 655 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,029 To get you out. But... 656 00:36:18,062 --> 00:36:19,797 We gotta skedaddle. Come on. 657 00:36:46,791 --> 00:36:50,460 - I'm Bob. - Very nice to meet you, Bob. 658 00:36:50,494 --> 00:36:52,830 Joanne. And behind you, Susan. 659 00:36:53,430 --> 00:36:54,999 - Hi. - How you doing? 660 00:36:58,002 --> 00:36:59,336 You can put me down now. 661 00:36:59,369 --> 00:37:00,403 Oh, yup. 662 00:37:01,404 --> 00:37:02,405 All right. 663 00:37:05,676 --> 00:37:08,012 We're rolling. Anytime you're ready, son. 664 00:37:08,045 --> 00:37:09,080 That's Jim. 665 00:37:09,113 --> 00:37:10,815 - Segregation must be... - Oh, my Lord. 666 00:37:12,083 --> 00:37:15,418 ...stopped. Must be broken down. 667 00:37:17,622 --> 00:37:18,656 Those of us... 668 00:37:19,824 --> 00:37:21,058 who were on the Freedom Ride... 669 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:23,895 will continue to Freedom Ride. 670 00:37:26,130 --> 00:37:29,033 I'm not sure I'll be able to. 671 00:37:29,066 --> 00:37:32,637 But we're going on to New Orleans, no matter what happens. 672 00:37:34,437 --> 00:37:36,607 We're dedicated to this. 673 00:37:36,641 --> 00:37:38,308 We'll take hitting, we'll take beating. 674 00:37:39,610 --> 00:37:40,878 We're willing to accept death. 675 00:37:43,047 --> 00:37:45,616 But we're going to keep coming until we can ride from... 676 00:37:47,118 --> 00:37:48,485 anywhere in the South 677 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,989 to any place else in the South... 678 00:37:53,858 --> 00:37:54,892 without anybody... 679 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,595 making any comments. 680 00:37:59,831 --> 00:38:01,431 Just as American citizens. 681 00:38:04,602 --> 00:38:06,971 - Where are you going? - I need to borrow your car. 682 00:38:07,004 --> 00:38:09,506 - But where are you going? - To the hospital. 683 00:38:09,539 --> 00:38:10,775 All right, well, I'm driving. 684 00:38:10,808 --> 00:38:12,475 - We should go too. - I don't think so. 685 00:38:16,614 --> 00:38:17,982 So what's gonna happen next? 686 00:38:18,015 --> 00:38:19,584 We continue on. 687 00:38:19,617 --> 00:38:20,718 With the Freedom Ride? 688 00:38:20,751 --> 00:38:22,687 All the way to New Orleans. 689 00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:23,855 But yours is over at least. 690 00:38:23,888 --> 00:38:25,156 What are you talking about? 691 00:38:25,189 --> 00:38:26,924 Well, look at you. 692 00:38:26,958 --> 00:38:28,491 Freedom Ride is over. 693 00:38:28,525 --> 00:38:29,827 But we're still breathing. 694 00:38:31,195 --> 00:38:33,030 They got Jim Zwerg up in that white ward 695 00:38:33,064 --> 00:38:34,665 and I don't think he'll be coming, 696 00:38:34,699 --> 00:38:36,968 but we are getting back on that bus tomorrow. 697 00:38:37,001 --> 00:38:37,869 That's crazy. 698 00:38:37,902 --> 00:38:40,137 Yeah, you know what Mississippi is like? 699 00:38:40,171 --> 00:38:42,974 No. What's it like? 700 00:38:43,007 --> 00:38:45,710 After getting criticized for being backwards, 701 00:38:45,743 --> 00:38:47,812 people from Georgia say, "Thank God for Alabama." 702 00:38:47,845 --> 00:38:50,181 And in Alabama, we say, "Thank God for Mississippi." 703 00:38:50,214 --> 00:38:52,016 So you think it's gonna be rough? 704 00:38:52,049 --> 00:38:53,084 Suicide. 705 00:38:53,951 --> 00:38:55,586 Yeah. Yeah. 706 00:38:56,453 --> 00:38:57,420 You're probably right. 707 00:38:57,454 --> 00:39:00,423 But John and I are getting back on that bus. 708 00:39:00,457 --> 00:39:01,792 Is our cause just? 709 00:39:03,628 --> 00:39:05,528 If so, then you must ask yourself, 710 00:39:06,664 --> 00:39:08,398 "If not now, when? 711 00:39:10,001 --> 00:39:12,670 "If not me, then who?" 712 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,708 Thank you, fellas, for coming down. 713 00:39:18,910 --> 00:39:20,177 It means a lot. 714 00:39:22,647 --> 00:39:24,715 ♪ I'm taking a ride 715 00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:28,619 ♪ On the Greyhound bus line 716 00:39:28,653 --> 00:39:31,454 ♪ I'm riding the front seat 717 00:39:31,488 --> 00:39:33,925 ♪ To Jackson this time 718 00:39:33,958 --> 00:39:35,726 ♪ Hallelujah 719 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,628 ♪ I'm traveling 720 00:39:37,662 --> 00:39:39,130 ♪ Hallelujah 721 00:39:39,163 --> 00:39:40,965 ♪ Ain't it fine? 722 00:39:40,998 --> 00:39:42,566 ♪ Hallelujah 723 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,837 ♪ I'm traveling down freedom's main line ♪ 724 00:39:48,639 --> 00:39:49,874 Gentlemen. 725 00:40:10,661 --> 00:40:12,129 In Montgomery, an angry white mob 726 00:40:12,163 --> 00:40:15,900 is holding over a thousand people inside the First Baptist Church, 727 00:40:15,933 --> 00:40:17,201 where they've come to listen to speakers 728 00:40:17,234 --> 00:40:20,104 such as the Reverend Fred Shuttlesworth of Birmingham. 729 00:40:20,137 --> 00:40:22,106 The most guilty man in this state tonight 730 00:40:22,139 --> 00:40:24,108 is Governor John Patterson. 731 00:40:24,141 --> 00:40:26,677 The people of Alabama are law-abiding citizens. 732 00:40:26,711 --> 00:40:29,113 Uh, these people that came into Alabama, 733 00:40:29,146 --> 00:40:31,182 uh, were law violators. 734 00:40:31,215 --> 00:40:33,050 They created the breaches of the peace 735 00:40:33,084 --> 00:40:35,886 and provoked the local people into disturbances. 736 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:41,926 US Attorney General Robert Kennedy has engaged us 737 00:40:41,959 --> 00:40:45,563 and assured us that he has the National Guard 738 00:40:45,596 --> 00:40:49,200 coming here to the Brick-a-Day Church now. 739 00:40:49,233 --> 00:40:51,602 We must remain where we are 740 00:40:51,635 --> 00:40:54,572 until they get here to protect. 741 00:40:54,605 --> 00:40:59,010 And despite what took place at the bus depot earlier, 742 00:40:59,043 --> 00:41:02,512 despite the angry crowd that surrounds us, 743 00:41:03,647 --> 00:41:06,283 we must remain nonviolent. 744 00:41:06,317 --> 00:41:09,653 Now, I know some of y'all think you wanna strike back, 745 00:41:09,687 --> 00:41:11,555 that you might wanna go blow-for-blow. 746 00:41:12,123 --> 00:41:14,125 But we cannot, 747 00:41:14,158 --> 00:41:17,728 - and we have to restrain others from doing so. - Yes, yeah. 748 00:41:17,762 --> 00:41:20,564 We hold the moral high ground. 749 00:41:20,598 --> 00:41:21,465 Yeah. 750 00:41:21,499 --> 00:41:24,602 And we intend to keep that high ground, 751 00:41:24,635 --> 00:41:26,203 if ever we hope 752 00:41:26,237 --> 00:41:29,840 to transform America into a better place. 753 00:41:29,874 --> 00:41:31,108 - Oh, yeah. - Amen. 754 00:41:38,315 --> 00:41:39,316 - Thank you. - Mm-hmm. 755 00:41:43,287 --> 00:41:46,590 - It's beautiful down here. - Yeah. 756 00:41:46,624 --> 00:41:48,592 Montgomery's a pretty town. 757 00:41:48,626 --> 00:41:50,861 With a pretty ugly side to it. 758 00:41:50,895 --> 00:41:54,365 Yeah. Well. that's probably true everywhere. 759 00:41:54,398 --> 00:41:56,233 It's certainly true in Nashville. 760 00:41:56,267 --> 00:41:57,868 Virginia gave me this. 761 00:41:57,902 --> 00:41:59,570 Found it inside. Do you mind? 762 00:42:01,072 --> 00:42:03,908 I was an Eagle Scout. I got a merit badge in first aid. 763 00:42:04,975 --> 00:42:07,144 Oh, all right then. 764 00:42:07,178 --> 00:42:09,880 As long as you've got a merit badge. 765 00:42:18,923 --> 00:42:22,626 Before today, I'd never touched a Southern white person before. 766 00:42:23,727 --> 00:42:25,963 And none ever touched me. 767 00:42:25,996 --> 00:42:27,665 How's that even possible? 768 00:42:27,698 --> 00:42:29,900 My father's a professor of advanced mathematics. 769 00:42:29,934 --> 00:42:33,003 I grew up on campus, all Black school. 770 00:42:33,037 --> 00:42:36,373 I did study in Paris, though. There were all sorts of white people there. 771 00:42:36,407 --> 00:42:39,243 But they were different. 772 00:42:39,276 --> 00:42:42,012 There were more French than white. 773 00:42:43,848 --> 00:42:47,318 Nobody's ever called me a nigger 774 00:42:47,351 --> 00:42:52,123 until I started sitting-in in the lunch counters in Nashville last year. 775 00:42:52,156 --> 00:42:54,658 Take your Black ass off my stool! 776 00:42:54,692 --> 00:42:56,127 You know what I thought then? 777 00:42:58,028 --> 00:43:00,064 "No, they must be joking. 778 00:43:00,998 --> 00:43:03,100 "Don't they know who I am? 779 00:43:03,134 --> 00:43:05,903 "I'm an associate professor. I speak five languages." 780 00:43:05,936 --> 00:43:07,404 - How many you speak? - Five. 781 00:43:07,905 --> 00:43:08,973 Wow. 782 00:43:13,844 --> 00:43:14,979 Can I ask you something? 783 00:43:16,780 --> 00:43:19,016 I've been told that down here, 784 00:43:19,049 --> 00:43:22,153 white folks' hair smells like chicken feathers when it gets wet. 785 00:43:22,186 --> 00:43:24,321 - Is that so? - They told you what? 786 00:43:24,355 --> 00:43:26,090 Can I smell your chicken-feathered hair? 787 00:43:26,123 --> 00:43:27,158 Just to see. 788 00:43:30,794 --> 00:43:32,163 I guess you better wet it first. 789 00:43:33,063 --> 00:43:34,064 Okay. 790 00:43:37,334 --> 00:43:38,802 Oh! 791 00:43:43,274 --> 00:43:44,441 What is that? 792 00:43:47,077 --> 00:43:48,812 You smell like my cousin Elroy. 793 00:43:48,846 --> 00:43:51,982 Oh, yeah. He probably uses Burma Shave. 794 00:43:52,283 --> 00:43:53,284 Mm. 795 00:43:54,285 --> 00:43:56,854 - Bob! - Carol Ann! 796 00:43:59,056 --> 00:44:00,491 Is this where you've been all day? 797 00:44:00,524 --> 00:44:02,059 No, I was... I was downtown. 798 00:44:02,092 --> 00:44:03,394 - In the riot? - Yeah. 799 00:44:03,427 --> 00:44:04,962 You cannot believe what went down there. 800 00:44:04,995 --> 00:44:08,098 And who is this? 801 00:44:08,132 --> 00:44:10,334 Carol Ann, Joanne. Joanne, this is... 802 00:44:10,367 --> 00:44:11,902 Can you excuse us a moment? 803 00:44:16,340 --> 00:44:17,975 What was she doing back there? 804 00:44:18,008 --> 00:44:19,977 She just wanted to smell my hair. 805 00:44:20,010 --> 00:44:22,446 - For what reason? - Just see if I smelled like a chicken. 806 00:44:22,479 --> 00:44:24,481 Look, Carol Ann, these are the craziest human beings 807 00:44:24,515 --> 00:44:25,584 I think I've ever met. 808 00:44:25,617 --> 00:44:27,885 They're actually planning on getting back on the bus 809 00:44:27,918 --> 00:44:29,420 to go on to Mississippi. 810 00:44:29,453 --> 00:44:32,056 It's like they're running a three-legged dog. 811 00:44:32,089 --> 00:44:34,191 They think they're gonna beat the pack. They are something. 812 00:44:34,225 --> 00:44:35,993 So what is it you're telling me? 813 00:44:36,026 --> 00:44:37,895 You wanna go get on a Greyhound with these people 814 00:44:37,928 --> 00:44:40,397 so some old redneck can beat the hell out of you? 815 00:44:40,431 --> 00:44:41,365 No, I'm not saying that. 816 00:44:41,398 --> 00:44:43,467 I'm... I'm just telling you, I admire 'em. 817 00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:44,802 Yeah, it's admirable. 818 00:44:46,170 --> 00:44:48,539 Now, let's go get back to campus. 819 00:44:48,573 --> 00:44:50,040 Not tonight. 820 00:44:53,444 --> 00:44:56,347 Oh, no, Carol Ann. Don't go thinking that. 821 00:44:56,380 --> 00:44:59,316 Do not get all caught up. 822 00:44:59,350 --> 00:45:01,785 You will ruin our lives if you get caught up in this. 823 00:45:01,819 --> 00:45:02,820 I know. 824 00:45:04,855 --> 00:45:05,990 You're scaring me, Bob. 825 00:45:12,062 --> 00:45:14,865 It was incredible. Amazing. 826 00:45:14,898 --> 00:45:18,202 One of the most exhilarating experiences of my entire existence. 827 00:45:18,235 --> 00:45:20,237 You really shouldn't have missed it. 828 00:45:20,271 --> 00:45:22,873 - You want a coffee? - Marvelous idea. Black. 829 00:45:22,906 --> 00:45:24,241 Get him one too. 830 00:45:24,275 --> 00:45:26,443 Dear girl, how did you get back? 831 00:45:26,477 --> 00:45:28,012 I didn't hear my car drive up. 832 00:45:28,045 --> 00:45:30,981 I have a little Nash Rambler back in California. 833 00:45:31,015 --> 00:45:32,483 I can drive it here for you. 834 00:45:32,516 --> 00:45:34,318 - Why would you do that? - The brakes are good. 835 00:45:34,351 --> 00:45:36,420 The real problem is just getting it started. 836 00:45:36,453 --> 00:45:39,156 What are you talking about? Where is my car? 837 00:45:39,189 --> 00:45:41,258 They burned it, all right? We did everything. 838 00:45:41,292 --> 00:45:42,960 Everything we could to stop them, didn't we, Dickie? 839 00:45:42,993 --> 00:45:44,562 You parked right in front of the church. 840 00:45:44,596 --> 00:45:47,298 I told you to park three or four blocks away. 841 00:45:47,331 --> 00:45:49,133 You did! You did, darling. I know you did... 842 00:45:49,166 --> 00:45:50,434 I'm glad you're in one piece. 843 00:45:50,467 --> 00:45:53,037 It's just that Clifford is gonna wanna kill you. 844 00:45:53,070 --> 00:45:56,273 They're taking the bus down to Jackson, Mississippi, later. 845 00:45:56,307 --> 00:45:58,409 - They're leaving today? - Who's leaving? 846 00:45:59,476 --> 00:46:01,445 Those who aren't too badly hurt. 847 00:46:01,478 --> 00:46:04,148 And a handful of volunteers to take the place of the others. 848 00:46:04,181 --> 00:46:06,183 Did somebody volunteer for me? 849 00:46:06,216 --> 00:46:07,451 I think so, yeah. 850 00:46:07,484 --> 00:46:09,153 Well, nobody needs to take my place. 851 00:46:09,186 --> 00:46:10,487 Were they from Montgomery? 852 00:46:10,521 --> 00:46:14,058 Mostly. A reporter took everybody's name down who's riding. 853 00:46:15,192 --> 00:46:17,428 I gotta get some sleep. 854 00:46:19,196 --> 00:46:20,331 Hold on to this for me. 855 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,903 Virginia, I think I found a picture of your car. 856 00:46:25,936 --> 00:46:28,439 - Derek Ang. - He's one of the volunteers. 857 00:46:29,540 --> 00:46:32,009 Sweet Lord Jesus. 858 00:46:32,042 --> 00:46:35,079 Put everything back, Bob. You're not going anywhere! 859 00:46:35,112 --> 00:46:37,281 - Okay! - I don't have to tell you 860 00:46:37,314 --> 00:46:38,549 that this is crazy! 861 00:46:38,583 --> 00:46:41,919 - This is crazy! - Yep. You're right. 862 00:46:41,952 --> 00:46:43,588 I forbid this. 863 00:46:43,621 --> 00:46:45,557 Do not walk out that door! 864 00:46:47,191 --> 00:46:48,593 You stop right now! 865 00:46:49,460 --> 00:46:52,396 I am talking to you. Bob! 866 00:46:52,429 --> 00:46:54,531 Put down that suitcase. 867 00:46:54,566 --> 00:46:55,667 I'm warning you, Bob. 868 00:46:55,700 --> 00:46:58,402 You go down to that bus depot and you get on that bus, 869 00:46:58,435 --> 00:47:00,537 and we are over! Done! 870 00:47:02,272 --> 00:47:04,441 - We're done? - Your decision. 871 00:47:08,245 --> 00:47:10,147 Well, in that case, 872 00:47:11,215 --> 00:47:12,549 I'll try and be back in a few days. 873 00:47:13,585 --> 00:47:14,586 Bob! 874 00:47:25,996 --> 00:47:27,264 - I want to get on that bus. - Mm-mm. 875 00:47:27,297 --> 00:47:28,566 Uh-uh. 876 00:47:50,555 --> 00:47:52,489 Jackson citizens watched by the hundreds, 877 00:47:52,523 --> 00:47:54,692 jostling each other for a better view. 878 00:47:54,726 --> 00:47:57,027 The Freedom Riders stepped off the bus, 879 00:47:57,060 --> 00:48:00,598 some still bearing the bandages of their encounter with Alabama. 880 00:48:00,632 --> 00:48:02,634 A policeman ordered them to move on. 881 00:48:02,667 --> 00:48:06,571 Then each was arrested and led outside to a waiting paddy wagon. 882 00:48:06,604 --> 00:48:10,207 The charges were breach of the peace and inciting to riot. 883 00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:12,610 The trial was short. The sentence... 884 00:48:12,644 --> 00:48:13,678 Leave it alone. 885 00:48:13,711 --> 00:48:14,978 ...which was suspended. 886 00:48:15,012 --> 00:48:17,080 The Real McCoys is about to come on. That's my favorite show. 887 00:48:17,114 --> 00:48:19,584 And I'll break your arm if you touch that TV. 888 00:48:21,653 --> 00:48:23,655 Well, you really are something, Bob. You know that? 889 00:48:24,556 --> 00:48:25,557 Carol Ann. 890 00:48:27,625 --> 00:48:29,059 That could have been you. 891 00:48:30,562 --> 00:48:33,163 I'm glad you decided to come to your senses. 892 00:48:33,698 --> 00:48:35,232 I didn't. 893 00:48:35,265 --> 00:48:38,135 Bus was leaving by the time I got there, and they wouldn't let me through. 894 00:48:39,571 --> 00:48:43,073 You really meant to go off and get yourself arrested? 895 00:48:43,106 --> 00:48:46,376 You know what I felt when I saw I couldn't get on that bus? 896 00:48:46,410 --> 00:48:49,581 Relieved. My head was saying, "Thank God. 897 00:48:49,614 --> 00:48:51,548 "Thank God. Thank you, Jesus." 898 00:48:51,583 --> 00:48:55,185 That's right. Thank you, Jesus. 899 00:48:55,219 --> 00:48:56,721 What do you think Jesus would have done in my place? 900 00:48:56,754 --> 00:48:59,156 You are not Jesus, Bob. 901 00:48:59,189 --> 00:49:00,324 You got that right. 902 00:49:00,357 --> 00:49:02,059 That's John Lewis. 903 00:49:02,092 --> 00:49:04,562 That man right there. You see him? 904 00:49:04,596 --> 00:49:06,163 Virginia Durr told me he's a minister. 905 00:49:06,196 --> 00:49:07,464 He doesn't look old enough, does he? 906 00:49:07,498 --> 00:49:10,668 Well, he's the first real man of God I think I've ever met. 907 00:49:10,702 --> 00:49:12,704 Oh, so he's Jesus? 908 00:49:13,605 --> 00:49:15,272 No, he's a man. 909 00:49:17,441 --> 00:49:19,811 But me, I was afraid to get on that bus. 910 00:49:19,844 --> 00:49:22,412 - What does that make me? - Reasonable. 911 00:49:25,182 --> 00:49:26,651 I was in a riot two days ago, 912 00:49:27,852 --> 00:49:30,254 and I walked right through it unharmed. 913 00:49:30,855 --> 00:49:32,289 And I know why. 914 00:49:32,322 --> 00:49:34,091 It's 'cause I'm just like everybody else. 915 00:49:35,225 --> 00:49:37,094 You know what I think most of the time? 916 00:49:37,127 --> 00:49:40,097 "It ain't happening to me. So it's okay." 917 00:49:40,130 --> 00:49:42,800 It should be my motto, just get it tattooed on my body someplace. 918 00:49:42,834 --> 00:49:46,103 - "Not my problem." - What is the point you're trying to make? 919 00:49:46,136 --> 00:49:47,504 I'm gonna go call these people up right now. 920 00:49:47,538 --> 00:49:49,339 Find out what they're really about. 921 00:49:49,373 --> 00:49:50,775 And I know that you're not gonna like that, 922 00:49:50,808 --> 00:49:51,676 but that's what I'm gonna do. 923 00:49:51,709 --> 00:49:54,244 Well, if that's all you do, it's okay. 924 00:49:54,278 --> 00:49:56,213 I'm not asking your permission, Carol Ann. 925 00:49:56,246 --> 00:49:57,615 And that's just it. 926 00:49:57,649 --> 00:50:00,551 I'm capable of doing a lot of things you're not gonna approve of. 927 00:50:00,585 --> 00:50:03,621 I am trying to preserve the life we've been planning together. 928 00:50:03,655 --> 00:50:05,355 Is that at all meaningful to you? 929 00:50:05,389 --> 00:50:06,991 I think about it constantly. 930 00:50:07,025 --> 00:50:10,562 There's a voice in my head saying, "Get back in line, you dumb ass country boy." 931 00:50:10,595 --> 00:50:12,396 So what is it you want to do? 932 00:50:12,429 --> 00:50:14,599 You wanna go off, get yourself arrested, 933 00:50:14,632 --> 00:50:17,669 jeopardize your whole life for some grand principle? 934 00:50:17,702 --> 00:50:19,804 Isn't that what they're doing? 935 00:50:19,837 --> 00:50:21,606 I mean, they're my age! 936 00:50:21,639 --> 00:50:23,440 Half of them are in college too. 937 00:50:23,473 --> 00:50:25,142 So how is it that they can do it? 938 00:50:25,175 --> 00:50:26,678 And what about me? 939 00:50:26,711 --> 00:50:28,111 You wanna give me up too? 940 00:50:28,145 --> 00:50:30,582 No, I don't. I just, I got to do something 941 00:50:30,615 --> 00:50:32,182 and I don't see you putting up with that. 942 00:50:38,823 --> 00:50:41,693 You had me fooled for a long time, Bob Zellner. 943 00:50:41,726 --> 00:50:43,527 I really thought you were gonna be somebody. 944 00:50:43,561 --> 00:50:44,596 I thought you had ambition. 945 00:50:44,629 --> 00:50:48,298 But you are nothing but a dumb ass country boy. 946 00:50:48,332 --> 00:50:51,869 And maybe it's all right for you to end up living life in a shotgun shack, 947 00:50:51,903 --> 00:50:54,639 trying to save the world. But that has never been my dream. 948 00:50:56,540 --> 00:50:59,276 Who do you think you are, anyway? 949 00:50:59,309 --> 00:51:01,511 We both know you're not anybody's savior. 950 00:51:08,418 --> 00:51:10,622 Well, the niggers aren't on TV anymore, are they? 951 00:51:10,655 --> 00:51:12,824 This is The Real McCoys. 952 00:51:12,857 --> 00:51:16,360 Starring Walter Brennan, created by Irving Pincus... 953 00:51:21,231 --> 00:51:23,166 Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee. 954 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,637 - Yes, is this the SNCC office? - Yes, it is. 955 00:51:25,670 --> 00:51:29,506 We'd like to thank you, Father, for this blessed meal you've set before us. 956 00:51:29,539 --> 00:51:31,909 I'm calling from Alabama. 957 00:51:31,943 --> 00:51:35,278 I was wondering if you needed volunteers for the summer. 958 00:51:35,312 --> 00:51:38,448 We'd like to ask that you keep an eye on our second eldest, Bob, 959 00:51:39,549 --> 00:51:41,351 who's leaving to take up arms 960 00:51:41,385 --> 00:51:44,187 and to fight for freedom and justice. 961 00:51:44,221 --> 00:51:46,456 We could use you. How soon can you get over here? 962 00:51:46,490 --> 00:51:48,325 I can be there in a few days. 963 00:51:48,358 --> 00:51:50,962 You know our son, Lord, I'm sure that you know 964 00:51:50,995 --> 00:51:55,432 that he is headstrong, a fighter, and resolute. 965 00:51:57,434 --> 00:51:59,369 First of all, Lord, he is righteous. 966 00:52:01,706 --> 00:52:03,608 Please walk with him and keep him safe. 967 00:52:04,709 --> 00:52:05,743 Amen. 968 00:52:05,777 --> 00:52:07,310 Amen. 969 00:52:08,613 --> 00:52:11,949 Bob, darling, take care of yourself. 970 00:52:11,983 --> 00:52:16,353 I mean, there's no reason for you to go out of your way to get in trouble. 971 00:52:16,386 --> 00:52:20,223 Going away to school in a few weeks. Remember that. 972 00:52:20,257 --> 00:52:21,759 - Okay? - What's going on here? 973 00:52:21,793 --> 00:52:23,695 You're acting like I'm going off to war. 974 00:52:41,846 --> 00:52:44,615 I'm sorry I wasn't there at graduation. 975 00:52:44,649 --> 00:52:46,550 I just couldn't go. 976 00:52:46,584 --> 00:52:47,852 I couldn't face it. 977 00:52:47,885 --> 00:52:51,656 Hey, Bob, you start applying for work as a nigger-lover yet? 978 00:52:51,689 --> 00:52:54,726 Now, what's that all about? You still up to something? 979 00:52:54,759 --> 00:52:57,461 Nah, they're just fooling around. 980 00:52:57,494 --> 00:52:59,630 Calling you a nigger-lover, is just fooling around? 981 00:52:59,664 --> 00:53:02,432 Don't listen to them, son. They're white trash. 982 00:53:02,466 --> 00:53:03,868 It means nothing, Daddy. 983 00:53:03,901 --> 00:53:04,902 You know how people are. 984 00:53:04,936 --> 00:53:07,437 Listen, I don't wanna find out that my grandson 985 00:53:07,471 --> 00:53:09,339 is trying to help the niggers take over. 986 00:53:09,372 --> 00:53:10,842 Not that you would tell me about it. 987 00:53:12,442 --> 00:53:15,613 It was supposed to mark the beginning of our life together, 988 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,548 truly together. 989 00:53:18,583 --> 00:53:22,019 And I can see now it was really marking the end. 990 00:53:22,053 --> 00:53:24,789 Mama wants me back in Union Springs, 991 00:53:24,822 --> 00:53:27,357 and I'm going back for now. 992 00:53:27,390 --> 00:53:30,494 Don't come to find me. I don't want to see you. 993 00:53:31,996 --> 00:53:33,965 I hope you find your way when you get out there. 994 00:54:39,764 --> 00:54:40,932 I'm leaving today. 995 00:54:42,432 --> 00:54:43,868 I think. 996 00:54:43,901 --> 00:54:46,070 I'll let you know if I get on that bus. 997 00:54:46,804 --> 00:54:47,805 Bye. 998 00:54:50,641 --> 00:54:52,677 Bob Zellner. 999 00:54:52,710 --> 00:54:54,145 You're the phone call from Alabama? 1000 00:54:54,178 --> 00:54:55,478 Yes, sir. 1001 00:54:55,512 --> 00:54:56,581 The volunteer? 1002 00:54:58,448 --> 00:54:59,684 You expecting somebody else? 1003 00:54:59,717 --> 00:55:02,086 You know, I gotta admit, I was. 1004 00:55:03,588 --> 00:55:04,856 You know what we do here? 1005 00:55:04,889 --> 00:55:06,389 You're a freedom organization. 1006 00:55:07,024 --> 00:55:08,893 And you're Southern? 1007 00:55:08,926 --> 00:55:10,828 Alabama born and raised. 1008 00:55:10,862 --> 00:55:12,930 All right, Alabama. 1009 00:55:12,964 --> 00:55:14,397 Well, listen. 1010 00:55:14,431 --> 00:55:16,033 I gotta catch a bus. 1011 00:55:16,067 --> 00:55:18,636 Here are the keys to the office. 1012 00:55:19,604 --> 00:55:21,639 Notepad, pencil. 1013 00:55:21,672 --> 00:55:22,673 Most important thing. 1014 00:55:24,541 --> 00:55:26,177 Guard this briefcase. 1015 00:55:26,210 --> 00:55:27,912 Never let it out of your sight. 1016 00:55:27,945 --> 00:55:29,881 When you leave, take it with you. 1017 00:55:29,914 --> 00:55:31,148 I'll guard it with my life. 1018 00:55:31,182 --> 00:55:34,719 You don't have to do all that, but don't lose it. 1019 00:55:34,752 --> 00:55:35,853 Everything's in there. 1020 00:55:40,992 --> 00:55:43,027 You better be on the up and up, Alabama. 1021 00:55:45,897 --> 00:55:47,798 Oh, uh... 1022 00:55:47,832 --> 00:55:50,601 sorry... what am I supposed to do? 1023 00:55:50,635 --> 00:55:52,737 Well, you open up the office around 8:00 a.m., 1024 00:55:52,770 --> 00:55:54,105 stay until about 5:30, 1025 00:55:54,138 --> 00:55:56,073 and in between, you answer the phones. 1026 00:55:56,107 --> 00:55:58,576 - Okay. - You take all the phone messages. 1027 00:55:58,609 --> 00:56:01,612 Who's calling, who they're calling for, and what they want. 1028 00:56:03,614 --> 00:56:05,548 Um, what about the briefcase? 1029 00:56:05,583 --> 00:56:08,219 Just keep it with you. When somebody comes, they'll know what to do with it. 1030 00:56:08,252 --> 00:56:09,921 - Well, who's coming? - I don't know. 1031 00:56:09,954 --> 00:56:11,622 - Well, when are you gonna be back? - I won't be. 1032 00:56:16,928 --> 00:56:21,065 - McDew? - Uh, I think McDew just left. 1033 00:56:21,098 --> 00:56:24,467 - Oh, who is this? - Bob Zellner. 1034 00:56:24,501 --> 00:56:25,937 From where? 1035 00:56:25,970 --> 00:56:27,470 East Brewton, Alabama. 1036 00:56:27,504 --> 00:56:29,874 Uh, I don't wanna insult you, but, uh... 1037 00:56:29,907 --> 00:56:31,909 - You sound white. - I get that a lot. 1038 00:56:31,943 --> 00:56:34,946 All right, I... I got a message for Bob Moses. 1039 00:56:34,979 --> 00:56:37,682 - Um, you think you could... - Go ahead. 1040 00:56:37,715 --> 00:56:38,783 Um... 1041 00:58:07,304 --> 00:58:10,007 Uh, Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee. 1042 00:58:10,041 --> 00:58:11,208 Bob Zellner speaking. 1043 00:58:13,277 --> 00:58:14,544 Who is this? 1044 00:58:15,279 --> 00:58:16,914 Bob Zellner. 1045 00:58:16,947 --> 00:58:18,649 Did I call the right number? 1046 00:58:18,682 --> 00:58:20,751 This is the SNCC office, right? 1047 00:58:20,785 --> 00:58:22,186 Yes, it is. 1048 00:58:22,219 --> 00:58:23,554 Don't move. 1049 00:58:39,970 --> 00:58:41,806 Burma Shave! 1050 00:58:41,839 --> 00:58:44,842 - Hey, Joanne. - What in God's creation are you doing here? 1051 00:58:58,089 --> 00:59:00,958 America's favorite family comedy, 1052 00:59:00,991 --> 00:59:03,327 The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet. 1053 00:59:09,300 --> 00:59:12,336 Hey, how do you like your new room? 1054 00:59:12,369 --> 00:59:14,038 It's a lot better than the Y. 1055 00:59:15,439 --> 00:59:18,843 - You play? - Do you? 1056 00:59:18,876 --> 00:59:20,845 Because I'm a Negro, I shouldn't know how to play chess? 1057 00:59:20,878 --> 00:59:22,012 I didn't mean it like that. 1058 00:59:22,046 --> 00:59:24,048 Oh, because I'm a girl. 1059 00:59:24,081 --> 00:59:25,916 I get it. Sit down. 1060 00:59:30,921 --> 00:59:32,823 I'm gonna let you know, I'm pretty good. 1061 00:59:32,857 --> 00:59:34,325 Uh-huh. We'll see. 1062 00:59:49,406 --> 00:59:54,011 ♪ Happy birthday to you! ♪ 1063 00:59:59,116 --> 01:00:01,886 You know, this movement is about more than just 1064 01:00:01,919 --> 01:00:04,755 voting rights and being able to eat at Woolworths. 1065 01:00:04,788 --> 01:00:06,957 Check. Don't go easy on me. 1066 01:00:09,793 --> 01:00:12,296 You don't have to worry about that. 1067 01:00:12,329 --> 01:00:15,699 Check. Look, we're trying to change the world, Bob. 1068 01:00:15,733 --> 01:00:17,201 Have you read Jean-Paul Sartre? 1069 01:00:18,135 --> 01:00:19,803 No. Never heard of him. 1070 01:00:21,805 --> 01:00:24,742 Well, you've got a lot of studying to do. 1071 01:00:24,775 --> 01:00:27,411 - Checkmate. - Yeah. 1072 01:00:27,444 --> 01:00:28,445 Wanna go again? 1073 01:00:29,446 --> 01:00:31,749 Well, it is getting pretty late. 1074 01:00:31,782 --> 01:00:34,084 Chicken hair, are you getting chicken? 1075 01:00:35,786 --> 01:00:37,154 Oh, don't be a sore loser. 1076 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,394 - SNCC office. - Bob! 1077 01:00:44,828 --> 01:00:47,998 - Grandaddy? - I'm downstairs, god damn it! 1078 01:00:55,072 --> 01:00:58,909 - Grandaddy? - Hey. 1079 01:00:58,943 --> 01:01:02,413 Is there a place where a white man can go and sit down around here? 1080 01:01:02,446 --> 01:01:04,014 There's a park. 1081 01:01:04,048 --> 01:01:06,183 Park? Good idea. 1082 01:01:06,217 --> 01:01:08,752 But he told me you've gone nigger crazy. 1083 01:01:08,786 --> 01:01:12,389 He saw you with a Negress walking down the street. 1084 01:01:13,424 --> 01:01:15,926 I'm just helping some people out for the summer. 1085 01:01:17,261 --> 01:01:19,763 Ah, let's call a spade a spade. 1086 01:01:20,965 --> 01:01:22,499 They're called niggers. 1087 01:01:24,868 --> 01:01:27,972 With your delicate sensibilities you want me to call them, 1088 01:01:28,005 --> 01:01:29,540 what, Negroes? 1089 01:01:31,508 --> 01:01:32,943 Whatever you choose. 1090 01:01:34,912 --> 01:01:37,248 Bob, I've known Negroes all my life. 1091 01:01:37,281 --> 01:01:39,149 I got nothing against them. 1092 01:01:39,183 --> 01:01:42,052 Now, you might think because I'm in the Klan, I'm against the Negro. 1093 01:01:42,086 --> 01:01:43,921 I'm not against the Negro. 1094 01:01:43,954 --> 01:01:46,423 I'm for the white race, that's all. 1095 01:01:46,457 --> 01:01:48,192 As any decent white man should be. 1096 01:01:49,293 --> 01:01:50,794 Hell, you know history. 1097 01:01:50,828 --> 01:01:52,863 History teaches us the white race 1098 01:01:52,896 --> 01:01:55,032 pulled humanity out of the muck 1099 01:01:55,065 --> 01:01:57,234 and gave the world civilization. 1100 01:01:57,268 --> 01:01:59,803 Hell, they don't understand civilization. 1101 01:01:59,837 --> 01:02:03,073 Not them. Not their fault. 1102 01:02:03,107 --> 01:02:04,942 Christ, they're barely out of the jungle themselves. 1103 01:02:04,975 --> 01:02:06,944 A couple of hundred years. 1104 01:02:06,977 --> 01:02:09,581 That's why we just, we can't mix in with them. 1105 01:02:09,614 --> 01:02:12,049 Hell, I don't want to, anyway. 1106 01:02:12,082 --> 01:02:14,318 I don't want to sit with them. I don't want to eat with them. 1107 01:02:14,351 --> 01:02:15,953 I don't want to pray with them 1108 01:02:15,986 --> 01:02:17,921 or ride on the goddamn train. 1109 01:02:20,090 --> 01:02:21,992 I prefer not even to see them. 1110 01:02:22,026 --> 01:02:24,895 That's my cross to bear, I guess. 1111 01:02:24,928 --> 01:02:26,864 It's a colored organization. I work for 'em. 1112 01:02:26,897 --> 01:02:29,433 It's called the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee. 1113 01:02:32,102 --> 01:02:34,371 But what the hell do you hope to accomplish with that? 1114 01:02:34,405 --> 01:02:39,577 Eating, sitting, praying, riding trains together. The whole kit and caboodle. 1115 01:02:39,611 --> 01:02:42,346 The Southern way of life, you just throw that away and just 1116 01:02:42,379 --> 01:02:44,315 stomp that into the ground, right? 1117 01:02:44,348 --> 01:02:45,983 It's gonna happen, Grandaddy. 1118 01:02:47,184 --> 01:02:49,486 I've met the people changing everything, and they're... 1119 01:02:51,388 --> 01:02:53,123 you can't stop them. 1120 01:02:53,157 --> 01:02:54,458 They are tougher, 1121 01:02:54,491 --> 01:02:58,529 they are stronger, they're more resilient, and they're right. 1122 01:02:58,563 --> 01:03:00,598 You trying to tell me that the Klan can't 1123 01:03:00,632 --> 01:03:04,068 beat a few niggers back into line? 1124 01:03:04,101 --> 01:03:07,071 Hey, hell. That's hardly even gonna be a fight. 1125 01:03:07,104 --> 01:03:08,472 I wouldn't count on that. 1126 01:03:08,505 --> 01:03:10,140 They're gonna bury Jim Crow. 1127 01:03:10,174 --> 01:03:12,242 The only funerals are gonna be for these... 1128 01:03:12,276 --> 01:03:15,145 these commie niggers. 1129 01:03:15,179 --> 01:03:17,147 And to tell you the truth, son, 1130 01:03:17,181 --> 01:03:19,983 you're on that slippery slope yourself. 1131 01:03:20,017 --> 01:03:21,985 I'm really only here to tell you something, Bob. 1132 01:03:22,019 --> 01:03:24,589 I need to tell you this face-to-face, man-to-man. 1133 01:03:24,622 --> 01:03:28,125 You come to Birmingham to march, protesting, 1134 01:03:28,158 --> 01:03:31,061 sit-in in a bus depot, 1135 01:03:31,095 --> 01:03:34,064 I'll put a bullet through your head my own damn self. 1136 01:03:34,666 --> 01:03:37,134 You understand me? Huh? 1137 01:03:38,335 --> 01:03:40,170 You've fallen off the path, son. 1138 01:03:43,207 --> 01:03:45,075 We got eyes on you, Bob. 1139 01:03:45,109 --> 01:03:48,045 We got eyes on you, god damn it. Got it? 1140 01:03:52,116 --> 01:03:54,284 - Hey. - Hi. 1141 01:03:56,220 --> 01:03:58,122 Well, are you gonna introduce us? 1142 01:03:58,155 --> 01:04:01,559 Joanne, this is my grandfather. Grandaddy, this is Joanne. 1143 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:04,361 Certainly nice to meet you. 1144 01:04:06,330 --> 01:04:08,432 What am I looking at here, Bob? 1145 01:04:08,465 --> 01:04:09,933 We better go. 1146 01:04:10,635 --> 01:04:12,369 I'll tell Daddy you said hi. 1147 01:04:54,378 --> 01:04:56,480 SNCC office. Bob Zellner here. 1148 01:04:56,513 --> 01:04:58,716 Well, yeah. All right. Mr. Zellner, 1149 01:04:58,750 --> 01:05:02,085 this is Mr. Herbert Lee from McComb, Mississippi. 1150 01:05:02,119 --> 01:05:05,189 Well, I know you're not calling for me. Would you like to leave a message? 1151 01:05:05,222 --> 01:05:08,660 Well, yes, I would. I'm trying to find Bob Moses. 1152 01:05:08,693 --> 01:05:11,563 Uh, he's helping us with voting registration over here. 1153 01:05:11,596 --> 01:05:12,931 He's supposed to be back last week 1154 01:05:12,963 --> 01:05:16,768 and I hadn't heard a thing from him. Would you know where he is? 1155 01:05:16,801 --> 01:05:21,205 I wish I did. Everybody's calling for him. 1156 01:05:21,238 --> 01:05:23,474 And that's about all I can tell you. 1157 01:05:23,507 --> 01:05:26,578 You sound kind of troubled, son. Everything all right? 1158 01:05:26,611 --> 01:05:28,580 No, sir, it's not. 1159 01:05:28,613 --> 01:05:30,648 Well, you know, this work can get rough sometimes. 1160 01:05:30,682 --> 01:05:32,316 I've never done anything like this 1161 01:05:32,349 --> 01:05:34,318 and I know that we don't know each other, 1162 01:05:34,351 --> 01:05:38,222 but I just don't know what I'm doing here. 1163 01:05:38,255 --> 01:05:42,092 I hear you, son. I hear you. I hear you. 1164 01:05:42,125 --> 01:05:44,261 I'm bored to tears. 1165 01:05:44,294 --> 01:05:45,663 Bored? 1166 01:05:45,697 --> 01:05:48,298 It ain't anything like what it looks like in the papers, Mr. Lee. 1167 01:05:52,135 --> 01:05:56,139 Oh. Mr. Lee, um, I gotta go. 1168 01:05:56,173 --> 01:05:57,809 I'm sure this is costing you an arm and leg anyways, 1169 01:05:57,842 --> 01:05:59,376 but I'll get your message to Bob Moses. 1170 01:05:59,409 --> 01:06:02,479 Thank you, son. Um, I appreciate you. 1171 01:06:03,781 --> 01:06:07,217 - You are? - Bob Zellner. 1172 01:06:07,251 --> 01:06:09,253 East Brewton, Alabama. 1173 01:06:09,286 --> 01:06:14,157 Okay. Bob Zellner, East Brewton, Alabama. I'm Jim Forman. 1174 01:06:14,191 --> 01:06:18,295 Oh, shoot. Am I glad to see you. I got nothing but messages here. 1175 01:06:18,328 --> 01:06:20,264 You've been taking messages? 1176 01:06:21,098 --> 01:06:23,568 Yeah, that's about all I've been doing. 1177 01:06:23,601 --> 01:06:26,203 - Well, how did you get in here? - He gave me the keys. 1178 01:06:26,236 --> 01:06:28,606 Who in God's name gave you keys? 1179 01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,809 McDew. I think McDew. He didn't tell me. I just gathered... 1180 01:06:31,843 --> 01:06:34,111 No, don't say another word. 1181 01:06:38,215 --> 01:06:41,853 This is June 22nd, 1961. This is Jim Forman. 1182 01:06:41,886 --> 01:06:44,388 I'm here in the SNCC headquarters, Atlanta, Georgia, 1183 01:06:44,421 --> 01:06:48,191 with Mr. Bob Zellner. From? 1184 01:06:48,225 --> 01:06:49,661 East Brewton, Alabama. 1185 01:06:49,694 --> 01:06:52,664 And East Brewton, is a pretty small place? 1186 01:06:52,697 --> 01:06:55,098 Well, not so small you could spit across it. 1187 01:06:55,132 --> 01:06:58,803 Can I assume that East Brewton, like much of Alabama, 1188 01:06:58,836 --> 01:07:01,806 is segregated with a healthy share of racism? 1189 01:07:01,839 --> 01:07:04,809 - Well, that and then some. - Okay, but not you? 1190 01:07:07,579 --> 01:07:09,279 I don't think I understand the question. 1191 01:07:09,313 --> 01:07:14,284 Okay, well, can you recall your earliest memories of race? 1192 01:07:14,318 --> 01:07:16,754 - You know, I can. - Well, what was it? 1193 01:07:16,788 --> 01:07:20,625 I was about four years old, 1194 01:07:20,658 --> 01:07:24,394 shopping with my mother at a downtown store where everybody went. 1195 01:07:24,428 --> 01:07:25,395 Mm-hmm. 1196 01:07:25,429 --> 01:07:28,398 My mother just bought me a little water pistol. 1197 01:07:28,432 --> 01:07:31,134 I spotted a fountain pretty close to my own height 1198 01:07:31,168 --> 01:07:32,737 to go fill it up. 1199 01:07:32,770 --> 01:07:35,138 And so I turn the lever for that water, 1200 01:07:35,172 --> 01:07:36,841 get that little water pistol open, 1201 01:07:36,874 --> 01:07:38,710 and just as I'm about to fill that thing up, 1202 01:07:38,743 --> 01:07:40,912 a pair of hands grabs me from behind, 1203 01:07:40,945 --> 01:07:43,347 turns me around. 1204 01:07:43,380 --> 01:07:46,651 It was a woman, never seen her before in my life. 1205 01:07:46,684 --> 01:07:48,653 Perfect stranger. She said to me... 1206 01:07:48,686 --> 01:07:51,488 That water fountain's not for little white boys. 1207 01:07:51,521 --> 01:07:53,357 You see that sign over there? 1208 01:07:53,390 --> 01:07:54,859 That says "colored" 1209 01:07:54,892 --> 01:07:57,729 and that sign over there, that says "white" 1210 01:07:57,762 --> 01:07:59,463 and that's what you are. 1211 01:07:59,496 --> 01:08:00,932 Don't let anybody catch you 1212 01:08:00,965 --> 01:08:03,166 drinking out of the colored fountain. 1213 01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,571 If you want a drink of water, just ask anybody to lift you up. 1214 01:08:06,604 --> 01:08:08,472 Indoctrination. 1215 01:08:08,505 --> 01:08:10,708 - Go along to get along. - Mm. 1216 01:08:12,476 --> 01:08:15,545 So you really didn't have much to do with Black folks? 1217 01:08:15,580 --> 01:08:18,181 Oh, yeah, I did. Yeah. 1218 01:08:18,215 --> 01:08:21,586 The South is a funny place. 1219 01:08:21,619 --> 01:08:24,889 You know, I worked in a general store. 1220 01:08:24,922 --> 01:08:27,925 I waited on Black folks as I did white folks. 1221 01:08:27,959 --> 01:08:30,595 There's not a whole lot of separation between the races there. 1222 01:08:30,628 --> 01:08:32,797 There were definitely rules to abide by, though. 1223 01:08:33,865 --> 01:08:35,933 What rules were those? 1224 01:08:35,967 --> 01:08:38,670 I couldn't carry anything out to a Negro customer 1225 01:08:38,703 --> 01:08:40,470 even if they were old and feeble, 1226 01:08:40,504 --> 01:08:42,539 no matter how heavy it was. 1227 01:08:42,573 --> 01:08:44,609 I could if there weren't any white people around. 1228 01:08:45,576 --> 01:08:49,479 And, uh, I had to see to the white folks 1229 01:08:49,513 --> 01:08:51,381 before seeing any of the Black customers, 1230 01:08:51,415 --> 01:08:54,819 no matter how long they've been standing there, that sort of thing. 1231 01:08:54,852 --> 01:08:58,255 So how is it that you are here, Bob Zellner, 1232 01:08:58,288 --> 01:09:00,858 instead of out somewhere kicking Negro ass? 1233 01:09:00,892 --> 01:09:02,459 That will be my daddy. 1234 01:09:03,326 --> 01:09:04,562 I think, yeah. 1235 01:09:04,595 --> 01:09:06,764 He's a minister, and he was in the Klan. 1236 01:09:08,465 --> 01:09:11,535 Let me explain. 1237 01:09:11,569 --> 01:09:15,673 My daddy went on a cultural exchange in the '30s to the Soviet Union. 1238 01:09:15,707 --> 01:09:17,875 And he was there for a long time, 1239 01:09:17,909 --> 01:09:19,342 and he was starting to get homesick, 1240 01:09:19,376 --> 01:09:24,548 and one day, he hears that there's a Baptist gospel choir from Georgia 1241 01:09:24,582 --> 01:09:26,918 performing at the same town that he was in. 1242 01:09:26,951 --> 01:09:29,687 I can tell you I was pretty excited to see some folks from home. 1243 01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:31,889 But when I got there... 1244 01:09:32,724 --> 01:09:35,292 turns out that it was this Black choir. 1245 01:09:36,027 --> 01:09:37,762 I was taken aback, 1246 01:09:38,930 --> 01:09:42,600 but, uh, they started singing. 1247 01:09:42,633 --> 01:09:45,302 It was one of the most beautiful sounds I'd ever heard. 1248 01:09:48,472 --> 01:09:51,408 Afterwards, we started traveling together. 1249 01:09:51,441 --> 01:09:53,477 We went all over that whole part of Russia. 1250 01:09:55,378 --> 01:09:57,314 Bob, pretty soon a terrible thing happened. 1251 01:09:57,815 --> 01:09:59,016 What was that? 1252 01:09:59,050 --> 01:10:00,818 I went color blind. 1253 01:10:03,420 --> 01:10:05,322 It hit me one evening that... 1254 01:10:06,624 --> 01:10:07,825 I was ruined 1255 01:10:08,659 --> 01:10:09,761 as a Klansman. 1256 01:10:13,564 --> 01:10:16,567 I had to go back and tell my own daddy that. 1257 01:10:16,601 --> 01:10:18,401 He didn't want anything to do with the Klan 1258 01:10:18,435 --> 01:10:19,937 and their robes for the rest of his life. 1259 01:10:19,971 --> 01:10:21,072 He had a robe and all? 1260 01:10:21,105 --> 01:10:23,574 Several, for different occasions and such, I guess. 1261 01:10:23,608 --> 01:10:26,043 And one day, my mother cut 'em all up 1262 01:10:26,077 --> 01:10:28,880 and made shirts out of 'em for me and my brothers. 1263 01:10:28,913 --> 01:10:30,848 Not... not this one. 1264 01:10:30,882 --> 01:10:33,050 Just when I was younger. 1265 01:10:34,051 --> 01:10:36,319 Yeah, this is from a catalog. 1266 01:10:36,353 --> 01:10:38,856 Okay. Well... 1267 01:10:41,592 --> 01:10:43,027 ...that'll be enough for now. 1268 01:10:43,060 --> 01:10:45,730 Well, should we, uh, pack up, 1269 01:10:45,763 --> 01:10:47,598 clean up, close up shop? 1270 01:10:47,632 --> 01:10:50,500 - What's in the briefcase? - I don't know. I thought you'd know. 1271 01:10:50,534 --> 01:10:51,803 Oh, really? How would I know? 1272 01:10:59,110 --> 01:11:01,679 - What is all that? - Well, it's SNCC. 1273 01:11:01,712 --> 01:11:03,714 That's the whole organization right here. 1274 01:11:03,748 --> 01:11:05,683 The whole organization is in that briefcase? 1275 01:11:05,716 --> 01:11:08,786 - How big is SNCC? - Counting you? 1276 01:11:08,820 --> 01:11:10,054 Good night! 1277 01:11:12,590 --> 01:11:15,593 So, what is it that you think you can do for SNCC? 1278 01:11:15,626 --> 01:11:21,766 What I was thinking was, somehow I could be a liaison to college students. 1279 01:11:21,799 --> 01:11:24,702 I know there's still a lot of people on the fence about the whole issue. 1280 01:11:24,735 --> 01:11:26,804 And maybe I could go around 1281 01:11:26,838 --> 01:11:29,607 college campuses, talking to students about the Negro cause. 1282 01:11:30,641 --> 01:11:31,642 The what? 1283 01:11:33,077 --> 01:11:34,779 The Negra cause. 1284 01:11:36,180 --> 01:11:39,449 Well, for one thing, you better learn how to pronounce the word. 1285 01:11:39,482 --> 01:11:42,820 - It's Negro. - Negra. 1286 01:11:43,788 --> 01:11:47,457 - Negro. - Negra. 1287 01:11:47,892 --> 01:11:49,126 No. 1288 01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:50,393 Negro. 1289 01:11:51,896 --> 01:11:53,430 What am I saying? 1290 01:11:53,463 --> 01:11:55,833 What you're saying, "Ne-gruh." 1291 01:11:55,867 --> 01:11:58,736 Okay. I'm gonna break it down for you. 1292 01:12:00,071 --> 01:12:01,371 What is that? 1293 01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:04,108 My knee. 1294 01:12:04,141 --> 01:12:06,944 Right. How does a child get bigger? 1295 01:12:07,278 --> 01:12:08,746 They grow. 1296 01:12:08,779 --> 01:12:10,047 Now, put it together. 1297 01:12:10,081 --> 01:12:12,617 Okay. Take your time. 1298 01:12:12,650 --> 01:12:15,720 - Knee grow. - Once again. 1299 01:12:15,753 --> 01:12:17,121 Negro. 1300 01:12:18,521 --> 01:12:20,457 Right. I got it. 1301 01:12:21,458 --> 01:12:24,996 Negro. Negro. 1302 01:12:29,133 --> 01:12:31,035 Negro. 1303 01:12:31,068 --> 01:12:32,169 Negro. 1304 01:12:33,638 --> 01:12:35,773 - What did you say? - He's okay. He's with me. 1305 01:12:35,806 --> 01:12:36,741 He's with you? 1306 01:12:36,774 --> 01:12:39,076 He's trying to learn how to say something. 1307 01:12:39,110 --> 01:12:41,012 And "Negro" is the word he's trying to learn to say? 1308 01:12:41,045 --> 01:12:42,747 So what word was he using? 1309 01:12:42,780 --> 01:12:44,514 We're not looking for any trouble. 1310 01:12:44,547 --> 01:12:45,750 We were just having some coffee. 1311 01:12:45,783 --> 01:12:48,719 Well, look at that. Your monkey speaks. 1312 01:12:48,753 --> 01:12:53,057 - Did you just call me a monkey? - Deepest apologies, to the monkeys. 1313 01:12:53,090 --> 01:12:55,927 Listen. I don't know you. You don't know me. 1314 01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:57,228 Let's just keep it that way. 1315 01:12:57,261 --> 01:12:59,163 The only way to that... 1316 01:12:59,196 --> 01:13:01,632 is if you take this coffee... 1317 01:13:03,167 --> 01:13:04,669 to go. 1318 01:13:04,702 --> 01:13:06,904 Ah! What the hell? 1319 01:13:08,773 --> 01:13:10,107 Bob. Bob! Settle down. 1320 01:13:10,141 --> 01:13:13,177 You better put a leash on your redneck before it gets hurt, Jim. 1321 01:13:13,210 --> 01:13:14,477 Reggie. 1322 01:13:14,511 --> 01:13:15,947 Bob is a volunteer. 1323 01:13:17,214 --> 01:13:18,849 We're recruiting from the Klan now? 1324 01:13:19,917 --> 01:13:21,152 He's for real, Reggie. 1325 01:13:21,185 --> 01:13:24,487 Oh, yeah, I can see that. 1326 01:13:24,521 --> 01:13:27,591 Well, I was thinking of starting him on his non-violent training. 1327 01:13:27,625 --> 01:13:28,626 Mm-hmm. 1328 01:13:30,094 --> 01:13:31,562 He could use that. 1329 01:13:33,097 --> 01:13:34,632 But you know what I see... 1330 01:13:36,067 --> 01:13:38,169 when I look at Mr. Wonderbread here? 1331 01:13:40,805 --> 01:13:41,973 I see FBI. 1332 01:13:44,909 --> 01:13:47,878 Mm. Maybe some local fuzz. 1333 01:13:47,912 --> 01:13:50,081 You think they're trying to infiltrate us 1334 01:13:50,114 --> 01:13:52,049 by sending us a good old boy? 1335 01:13:52,083 --> 01:13:53,784 That's about they speed. 1336 01:13:59,056 --> 01:14:02,026 Look at him, sitting there just egging us on. 1337 01:14:14,271 --> 01:14:16,574 Monkey see, monkey do. 1338 01:14:16,607 --> 01:14:18,275 You know what monkeys are like? I know what monkeys are like. 1339 01:14:18,309 --> 01:14:20,144 Oh, yeah. 1340 01:14:29,253 --> 01:14:30,855 - Leon! Leon! - I can't do this! 1341 01:14:30,888 --> 01:14:32,857 - Cool down. Cool down, baby. - I can't! No! 1342 01:14:32,890 --> 01:14:36,627 - Cool down, baby. - I can't do this. No. 1343 01:14:36,660 --> 01:14:38,162 - Cool down. - I can't do this. 1344 01:14:38,195 --> 01:14:39,964 Cool down. Sit down. 1345 01:14:41,098 --> 01:14:43,901 There you go. Sit down. All right? 1346 01:14:48,005 --> 01:14:52,076 - I can't do this. - I know, I can see that. 1347 01:14:52,109 --> 01:14:55,112 But, Leon, if you want to participate, 1348 01:14:55,146 --> 01:14:57,281 this is what you're gonna have to learn. 1349 01:14:57,314 --> 01:14:59,050 We ought to be fighting back. 1350 01:14:59,083 --> 01:15:01,619 We ought to be killing the white sons of bitches! 1351 01:15:01,652 --> 01:15:04,355 Listen, you can't kill all of 'em. 1352 01:15:04,388 --> 01:15:06,157 And we'll be the ones that are getting killed. 1353 01:15:10,928 --> 01:15:13,030 And then, we won't be able to change anything. 1354 01:15:14,965 --> 01:15:17,668 I know it's hard. 1355 01:15:17,701 --> 01:15:20,638 And I know that you want to strike back, 1356 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:24,942 but you gotta try this other thing. 1357 01:15:27,344 --> 01:15:28,746 It can work. 1358 01:15:28,779 --> 01:15:30,815 Gandhi defeated the British Empire 1359 01:15:32,283 --> 01:15:33,584 and never... 1360 01:15:35,086 --> 01:15:36,287 fired a shot. 1361 01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,889 I just see red sometimes. 1362 01:15:38,923 --> 01:15:40,191 Me too, brother. 1363 01:15:46,197 --> 01:15:47,731 Me too. 1364 01:15:49,900 --> 01:15:52,136 Uh, yeah? 1365 01:15:52,703 --> 01:15:53,838 Come in. 1366 01:15:57,708 --> 01:15:59,376 - Buonanotte. - What's that? 1367 01:15:59,410 --> 01:16:01,278 "Good night" in Italian. 1368 01:16:01,946 --> 01:16:04,648 Bonne nuit. French. 1369 01:16:04,682 --> 01:16:06,750 Gute Nacht. German. 1370 01:16:07,918 --> 01:16:10,855 Oyasuminasai. Japanese. 1371 01:16:11,122 --> 01:16:12,323 Wow. 1372 01:16:16,794 --> 01:16:18,295 - About today... - That was pretty rough. 1373 01:16:18,329 --> 01:16:21,132 I guess I should probably go through that training too, huh? 1374 01:16:21,165 --> 01:16:23,234 I bit a girl's hand my first time. 1375 01:16:23,267 --> 01:16:25,302 - Dang. - I did. 1376 01:16:27,071 --> 01:16:29,807 But the real deal is much worse. 1377 01:16:30,708 --> 01:16:31,742 You should know that. 1378 01:16:31,775 --> 01:16:33,711 I know. 1379 01:16:33,744 --> 01:16:35,946 I was in a riot once, right there with you. 1380 01:16:35,980 --> 01:16:38,749 But no one was throwing punches at your head, Bob. 1381 01:16:40,217 --> 01:16:42,353 When they do, you think you're gonna throw punches back? 1382 01:16:42,386 --> 01:16:44,388 Well, that's the whole point, not to, right? 1383 01:16:44,421 --> 01:16:47,691 That is the point. But can you do that? 1384 01:16:51,228 --> 01:16:52,930 What you drinking? 1385 01:16:52,963 --> 01:16:56,133 Mai Tai cocktail. You wanna try? 1386 01:16:56,167 --> 01:16:58,836 Shoot. I'll try anything three times. 1387 01:16:58,869 --> 01:17:01,172 Well, you might not like it. 1388 01:17:01,772 --> 01:17:03,440 This looks pretty good. 1389 01:17:06,277 --> 01:17:07,945 I'm sorry. That's terrible. 1390 01:17:07,978 --> 01:17:09,313 Oh, shoot. 1391 01:17:09,346 --> 01:17:10,481 Did you really just do that? 1392 01:17:10,514 --> 01:17:11,982 I'll get it. I'm in my birthday suit. 1393 01:17:12,016 --> 01:17:14,018 - No, it's fine. I can... - Oh. 1394 01:17:14,051 --> 01:17:15,719 - Sorry. - It's all right. 1395 01:17:23,427 --> 01:17:25,029 Should we be doing this? 1396 01:17:25,462 --> 01:17:26,897 Probably not. 1397 01:17:37,107 --> 01:17:40,844 Oh. It all makes sense now. 1398 01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:44,949 Old Bobby has just been sniffing around. 1399 01:17:45,516 --> 01:17:46,984 - Slumming - Reggie. 1400 01:17:47,017 --> 01:17:49,253 Born for this, right, Wonderbread? 1401 01:17:49,286 --> 01:17:51,822 Because you certainly living the great Southern tradition. 1402 01:17:57,194 --> 01:17:59,396 So you're telling me you didn't use the pool, not once? 1403 01:17:59,430 --> 01:18:03,801 No. They make you wear trunks now to swim at the YMCA. 1404 01:18:03,834 --> 01:18:05,069 What do you mean? 1405 01:18:05,102 --> 01:18:07,271 Well, up until now, they wouldn't let you wear anything. 1406 01:18:07,304 --> 01:18:08,872 You mean like butt naked? 1407 01:18:08,906 --> 01:18:11,141 That's the only way you could swim in the Y. 1408 01:18:11,175 --> 01:18:13,377 Yeah. That's why I didn't swim. I didn't have a trunk. 1409 01:18:19,516 --> 01:18:22,119 - They killed Herbert Lee. - What? 1410 01:18:22,152 --> 01:18:23,354 How did it happen? 1411 01:18:23,387 --> 01:18:25,522 His white neighbor killed him. 1412 01:18:25,557 --> 01:18:28,459 State legislator named E. H. Hurst... 1413 01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:31,929 gunned him down... 1414 01:18:31,962 --> 01:18:33,530 in the bright of day. 1415 01:18:33,565 --> 01:18:34,898 I loved that nigger. 1416 01:18:37,401 --> 01:18:40,170 And I hated I had to do what I had to do. 1417 01:18:40,204 --> 01:18:42,373 He didn't leave me no choice. 1418 01:18:42,406 --> 01:18:45,142 I mean, you can't just stand by and let 'em run all over you. 1419 01:18:45,175 --> 01:18:48,045 No reason to feel bad for doing what you had to do. 1420 01:18:51,348 --> 01:18:53,951 You know, I loaned him the money to buy his place. 1421 01:18:54,551 --> 01:18:56,086 That's the thanks I get? 1422 01:18:56,588 --> 01:18:58,322 Registering to vote. 1423 01:19:01,258 --> 01:19:02,826 Just a damn ingrate. 1424 01:19:02,860 --> 01:19:04,461 They didn't even arrest him, did they? 1425 01:19:38,429 --> 01:19:40,331 Calling everyone to McComb. 1426 01:19:40,364 --> 01:19:41,865 Bob Moses is there. 1427 01:19:43,233 --> 01:19:44,935 So is McDew, 1428 01:19:44,968 --> 01:19:46,904 half a dozen SNCC staffers. 1429 01:19:46,937 --> 01:19:48,906 It'll be the first time we all in one place... 1430 01:19:50,274 --> 01:19:52,309 to be able to have that SNCC staff meeting. 1431 01:19:52,343 --> 01:19:54,912 - Bob? - Yeah. I'm there. 1432 01:19:54,945 --> 01:19:56,280 We're gonna need your car. 1433 01:20:16,500 --> 01:20:17,901 Dang it. 1434 01:20:17,935 --> 01:20:19,336 It's so hot under here. 1435 01:20:19,370 --> 01:20:21,071 Couldn't we have just got a sheet or something? 1436 01:20:21,105 --> 01:20:23,374 Leon, you hear what this cracker just said? 1437 01:20:23,407 --> 01:20:25,610 - Hmm? - He said he wants a sheet 1438 01:20:25,643 --> 01:20:27,612 instead of them filthy blankets. 1439 01:20:27,645 --> 01:20:31,583 Just like a white cat to feel more comfortable in a sheet. 1440 01:20:39,156 --> 01:20:41,358 Oh, come on, Bobby. That was funny. 1441 01:20:41,392 --> 01:20:43,293 We've got to watch this one. That's for sure. 1442 01:20:43,327 --> 01:20:45,295 - For sure. - I got to sit up. 1443 01:20:45,329 --> 01:20:48,198 - Oh, whoa, whoa! - No, no, no, no. 1444 01:20:48,232 --> 01:20:50,434 We ain't gonna let no cracker cop see us riding 1445 01:20:50,467 --> 01:20:52,136 with a white boy like you. 1446 01:20:52,169 --> 01:20:55,139 - I'm gonna melt. - You gotta suffer for the cause, baby. 1447 01:20:55,172 --> 01:20:56,940 You gotta suffer for the cause. 1448 01:21:36,046 --> 01:21:37,615 Since Herbert Lee's murder, 1449 01:21:37,649 --> 01:21:40,017 there have been a number of actions 1450 01:21:40,050 --> 01:21:41,653 by high school students in McComb 1451 01:21:41,686 --> 01:21:44,354 organized by brother Bob Moses here. 1452 01:21:44,388 --> 01:21:46,490 Three of these students were arrested 1453 01:21:46,523 --> 01:21:47,692 sitting at a lunch counter 1454 01:21:47,725 --> 01:21:49,493 at the five and dime on the square. 1455 01:21:50,461 --> 01:21:51,763 They're being released today, 1456 01:21:51,796 --> 01:21:55,466 but I've just been informed that there will be an assembly held 1457 01:21:55,499 --> 01:21:58,770 at the high school at which the principal will be addressing the student body 1458 01:21:58,803 --> 01:22:00,605 on these three students. 1459 01:22:00,638 --> 01:22:02,406 Now we're expecting a... 1460 01:22:06,711 --> 01:22:09,112 ♪ We've done all you wanted 1461 01:22:09,146 --> 01:22:12,516 ♪ We've done all you want, Lord 1462 01:22:12,549 --> 01:22:14,719 ♪ We've done All you wanted... ♪ 1463 01:22:17,755 --> 01:22:19,323 Hey. What is it? 1464 01:22:19,356 --> 01:22:21,291 They wouldn't let Brenda Travis back in. 1465 01:22:21,325 --> 01:22:22,794 They're trying to send her to a reform school. 1466 01:22:22,827 --> 01:22:24,461 The principal just caved. 1467 01:22:24,495 --> 01:22:26,129 We're going to march on Magnolia. 1468 01:22:26,163 --> 01:22:27,498 We wanna make some signs. 1469 01:22:28,332 --> 01:22:30,400 Okay. Uh, Leon, 1470 01:22:30,434 --> 01:22:31,736 Chuck, give them some papers. 1471 01:22:34,839 --> 01:22:38,610 When they get up to go, you just stay back. 1472 01:22:38,643 --> 01:22:41,579 It's crazy marching off like this without a plan. 1473 01:22:42,647 --> 01:22:45,148 I shouldn't be involved in this. 1474 01:22:45,182 --> 01:22:47,117 Everybody's gonna get thrown in jail 1475 01:22:47,150 --> 01:22:48,720 and I can't get arrested. 1476 01:22:49,687 --> 01:22:51,689 I gotta leave tomorrow. 1477 01:22:51,723 --> 01:22:54,258 This is happening too quick. 1478 01:22:54,291 --> 01:22:58,195 If I get busted, what's gonna happen to my mama and daddy? 1479 01:22:58,228 --> 01:23:00,698 Everybody will find out back home, 1480 01:23:00,732 --> 01:23:03,233 and there'll be hell to pay. 1481 01:23:03,267 --> 01:23:06,804 Daddy will lose his church. If I'm a part of this, 1482 01:23:06,838 --> 01:23:09,540 it will just cause more violence down here than normal. 1483 01:23:13,243 --> 01:23:16,213 Really, Bob? What's a normal level of violence? 1484 01:23:18,750 --> 01:23:21,485 You can lay back here with me if you want. 1485 01:23:21,518 --> 01:23:23,186 You're not going? 1486 01:23:23,220 --> 01:23:24,789 Somebody always has to stay back. 1487 01:23:24,822 --> 01:23:27,324 So it's been decided. Reggie and I will hang here. 1488 01:23:28,358 --> 01:23:31,361 Get people out of jail, that sort of thing? 1489 01:23:31,395 --> 01:23:33,297 I'll hang with the march for a little bit, 1490 01:23:33,330 --> 01:23:34,832 but at some point, I'll have to turn back. 1491 01:23:38,235 --> 01:23:40,738 This isn't make-believe anymore, Bob. 1492 01:23:42,406 --> 01:23:45,208 Things are gonna get real serious out there. 1493 01:23:45,242 --> 01:23:49,714 Nobody here expects you to step out that door, lover boy. 1494 01:23:51,649 --> 01:23:53,851 Anyway, you already got what you wanted. 1495 01:23:58,623 --> 01:24:02,125 ♪ I woke up this morning With my mind 1496 01:24:02,159 --> 01:24:05,395 ♪ Stayed on freedom 1497 01:24:05,429 --> 01:24:08,532 ♪ I woke up this morning With my mind 1498 01:24:08,566 --> 01:24:11,636 ♪ Stayed on freedom 1499 01:24:11,669 --> 01:24:15,472 ♪ I woke up this morning With my mind 1500 01:24:15,505 --> 01:24:18,442 ♪ Stayed on freedom 1501 01:24:18,475 --> 01:24:20,444 ♪ Hallelu 1502 01:24:20,477 --> 01:24:22,279 ♪ Hallelu 1503 01:24:22,312 --> 01:24:25,583 ♪ Hallelujah 1504 01:24:25,617 --> 01:24:27,284 ♪ I'm walking and talking With my mind 1505 01:24:27,317 --> 01:24:29,419 Get your Black asses out of here! 1506 01:24:29,453 --> 01:24:32,757 ♪ Stayed on freedom 1507 01:24:32,790 --> 01:24:34,892 ♪ Keep it stayin' 1508 01:24:34,926 --> 01:24:37,227 ♪ On freedom 1509 01:24:37,260 --> 01:24:40,765 ♪ I'm walking and talking With my mind 1510 01:24:40,798 --> 01:24:43,601 ♪ Stayed on freedom 1511 01:24:43,635 --> 01:24:47,337 ♪ Hallelu, hallelu 1512 01:24:47,371 --> 01:24:50,507 ♪ Hallelujah ♪ 1513 01:24:57,782 --> 01:24:59,617 Son of a bitch. 1514 01:25:01,753 --> 01:25:02,754 Hey, Zellner. 1515 01:25:03,420 --> 01:25:04,454 Zellner! 1516 01:25:04,488 --> 01:25:05,957 You low-down son of a bitch, 1517 01:25:05,990 --> 01:25:07,925 what the hell do you think you're doing? 1518 01:25:07,959 --> 01:25:10,561 - Hey, Doc. - You've really lost your mind, you know that? 1519 01:25:10,595 --> 01:25:11,963 Is this where you're from? 1520 01:25:11,996 --> 01:25:13,865 You're in way over your head on this one. 1521 01:25:13,898 --> 01:25:16,466 You know what they're gonna write on your tombstone? 1522 01:25:16,500 --> 01:25:17,434 "Traitor." 1523 01:25:17,467 --> 01:25:19,704 Yeah, I'm gonna piss on it to seal the deal. 1524 01:25:20,537 --> 01:25:23,407 - Do you know him? - Yeah, that was Doc. 1525 01:25:24,341 --> 01:25:25,677 I guess he's from McComb. 1526 01:25:25,710 --> 01:25:28,345 You're not just passing? You're really white, aren't you? 1527 01:25:28,378 --> 01:25:29,379 Yeah. 1528 01:25:30,347 --> 01:25:32,349 Skin me alive. 1529 01:25:32,750 --> 01:25:34,919 ♪ Freedom 1530 01:25:34,952 --> 01:25:37,487 ♪ Freedom 1531 01:25:37,521 --> 01:25:41,425 ♪ Freedom 1532 01:25:41,458 --> 01:25:43,260 ♪ Seeing the light come on 1533 01:25:43,695 --> 01:25:46,329 ♪ Freedom 1534 01:25:46,363 --> 01:25:49,466 ♪ Freedom 1535 01:25:49,499 --> 01:25:51,803 ♪ Freedom 1536 01:25:51,836 --> 01:25:53,470 ♪ Freedom 1537 01:25:53,503 --> 01:25:54,572 ♪ Freedom 1538 01:25:54,605 --> 01:25:55,707 Everybody now! 1539 01:25:55,740 --> 01:25:57,842 ♪ Freedom 1540 01:25:58,609 --> 01:26:01,278 ♪ Freedom 1541 01:26:01,846 --> 01:26:04,381 ♪ Freedom 1542 01:26:04,414 --> 01:26:06,818 ♪ Freedom, freedom 1543 01:26:07,517 --> 01:26:09,921 ♪ Freedom 1544 01:26:10,755 --> 01:26:13,024 ♪ Freedom 1545 01:26:13,057 --> 01:26:15,459 ♪ Freedom 1546 01:26:15,492 --> 01:26:18,863 ♪ Freedom, freedom ♪ 1547 01:26:35,545 --> 01:26:37,815 "Our Father, which art in heaven, 1548 01:26:37,849 --> 01:26:39,016 - "hallowed be thy name... - Lock 'em. 1549 01:26:39,050 --> 01:26:41,518 "Thy kingdom come... Your will be done..." 1550 01:26:41,551 --> 01:26:43,955 "...on earth as it is in heaven. 1551 01:26:43,988 --> 01:26:47,058 - "Give us this day, our daily bread... - Arrest 'em. 1552 01:26:47,091 --> 01:26:48,993 "...and forgive us our trespasses 1553 01:26:49,026 --> 01:26:51,328 "as we forgive those who trespass against us... 1554 01:26:51,361 --> 01:26:52,563 Lock 'em all up! 1555 01:26:52,597 --> 01:26:54,431 "Lead us not into temptation 1556 01:26:54,464 --> 01:26:56,500 "but deliver us from evil." 1557 01:27:05,009 --> 01:27:06,543 Bob, keep your head down. 1558 01:27:06,577 --> 01:27:07,612 They're gonna kill him. 1559 01:27:12,950 --> 01:27:15,318 Oh, we gotta get out of here. 1560 01:27:49,386 --> 01:27:50,688 I want to make a phone call. 1561 01:27:51,421 --> 01:27:52,522 You want what? 1562 01:27:53,456 --> 01:27:54,926 Every prisoner has a right to a phone call 1563 01:27:54,959 --> 01:27:56,928 and I want to make mine right now. 1564 01:27:56,961 --> 01:27:58,796 But you're not under arrest. 1565 01:27:58,830 --> 01:28:00,631 - Then arrest me. - For what? 1566 01:28:01,732 --> 01:28:03,601 What did you get everybody else for? 1567 01:28:03,634 --> 01:28:05,770 - Breaching the peace. - Okay, then. 1568 01:28:05,803 --> 01:28:07,370 Well, I can't do that. 1569 01:28:07,404 --> 01:28:11,441 - Why not? - Because you didn't breach the peace. 1570 01:28:11,474 --> 01:28:13,878 I had a right to be down there but everybody else didn't? 1571 01:28:13,911 --> 01:28:15,680 Well, put him at the head of the class. 1572 01:28:17,148 --> 01:28:18,649 What if I slug this fellow right here? 1573 01:28:18,683 --> 01:28:19,516 Is that enough to get me arrested? 1574 01:28:19,549 --> 01:28:21,619 Jay-Jay, get him the hell out of here. 1575 01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:31,562 Jay-Jay, why don't you slow up? 1576 01:28:31,596 --> 01:28:33,798 Uh, I don't think ain't nobody chasing us. 1577 01:28:33,831 --> 01:28:36,100 Yeah, Jay-Jay, why don't you slow up? 1578 01:28:36,133 --> 01:28:37,768 You ain't in any real hurry, are you? 1579 01:28:37,802 --> 01:28:39,704 Hey, why don't you shut up? 1580 01:28:39,737 --> 01:28:41,706 You New York Jew bastard communist. 1581 01:28:41,739 --> 01:28:43,007 You really a communist? 1582 01:28:44,041 --> 01:28:47,444 Well, Jay-Jay says so. 1583 01:28:47,477 --> 01:28:49,981 I ain't never heard nobody speak no communist. 1584 01:28:50,014 --> 01:28:51,682 Can you say something communist for me? 1585 01:28:51,716 --> 01:28:53,516 Younger, shut up. 1586 01:28:53,550 --> 01:28:56,553 But I ain't never heard nobody speak no communist before. 1587 01:28:56,587 --> 01:28:58,656 You ain't got the sense God gave a billy goat. 1588 01:28:59,690 --> 01:29:01,125 He always talk to you like that? 1589 01:29:02,126 --> 01:29:04,028 Yeah, pretty much. 1590 01:29:04,061 --> 01:29:06,197 Younger, I told you to button it. 1591 01:29:06,230 --> 01:29:09,867 And stop talking to that goddamn New York Jew commie bastard. 1592 01:29:09,901 --> 01:29:12,703 What do you know about New York, Jay-Jay? You ever been up there? 1593 01:29:12,737 --> 01:29:16,539 No. And I don't plan to go neither. 1594 01:29:16,574 --> 01:29:19,877 But I guess we'll be sending your remains back up there to somebody. 1595 01:29:19,911 --> 01:29:23,681 My remains will be sent back to Alabama since that's where I'm from. 1596 01:29:24,582 --> 01:29:26,651 - You're lying. - No. 1597 01:29:26,684 --> 01:29:28,119 Daddy's a Methodist minister 1598 01:29:28,152 --> 01:29:30,553 and I'm from East Brewton, Alabama. 1599 01:29:40,831 --> 01:29:42,700 You're telling me you're from Alabama? 1600 01:29:42,733 --> 01:29:44,501 We got cousins over in Dothan. 1601 01:29:44,534 --> 01:29:46,503 That ain't far from Brewton. Maybe you know 'em. 1602 01:29:46,536 --> 01:29:48,039 - Ethel... - Younger! 1603 01:29:49,073 --> 01:29:51,108 We're not making friends here. 1604 01:29:52,576 --> 01:29:54,078 Your daddy's a minister. 1605 01:29:55,512 --> 01:29:57,581 Where did he go to seminary school? 1606 01:29:57,615 --> 01:29:59,951 Bob Jones College. You ever heard of it? 1607 01:29:59,984 --> 01:30:01,986 I heard of Bob Jones. 1608 01:30:02,019 --> 01:30:05,756 - He's got a school? - Yeah, it's who I'm named after. 1609 01:30:05,790 --> 01:30:08,159 I'm telling, y'all. I'm from Alabama. 1610 01:30:08,192 --> 01:30:09,694 He sure sound like it. 1611 01:30:13,831 --> 01:30:15,800 Does your mother know that you're doing this? 1612 01:30:16,533 --> 01:30:17,534 She knows. 1613 01:30:18,936 --> 01:30:20,771 You should be ashamed of yourself. 1614 01:30:22,773 --> 01:30:24,675 A minister's boy too... 1615 01:30:24,709 --> 01:30:27,011 named after Bob Jones and everything. 1616 01:30:27,044 --> 01:30:28,545 Get him back in the car. 1617 01:31:03,748 --> 01:31:06,017 There he is. Come on, Younger. 1618 01:31:06,050 --> 01:31:09,186 - Where you going? - I'm out. 1619 01:31:09,220 --> 01:31:12,656 - You... What's going on here? - This boy's from Alabama. 1620 01:31:12,690 --> 01:31:14,792 Well, no shit. 1621 01:31:14,825 --> 01:31:16,060 You already knew that? 1622 01:31:16,093 --> 01:31:18,729 You gotta draw the line somewhere, Jay-Jay. 1623 01:31:18,763 --> 01:31:20,865 And this boy here is way over it. 1624 01:31:22,066 --> 01:31:24,001 Hey, Doc. 1625 01:31:24,035 --> 01:31:26,904 Back in town, how come you didn't have the guts to step forward? 1626 01:31:26,937 --> 01:31:28,039 Why don't you shut up, Bob? 1627 01:31:28,072 --> 01:31:30,041 Bob? You know him? 1628 01:31:30,074 --> 01:31:33,010 Oh, yeah. We went to school together. Go ahead. 1629 01:31:33,044 --> 01:31:35,079 I'm warning you, boy. Tie him up. 1630 01:31:36,914 --> 01:31:40,251 We about to hang a buddy of yours. That don't seem right. 1631 01:31:40,284 --> 01:31:42,920 We are in crap right up to our necks. 1632 01:31:42,953 --> 01:31:45,089 I'm out and I'm taking Younger with me. 1633 01:31:45,122 --> 01:31:46,791 There ain't no reason to be out. 1634 01:31:46,824 --> 01:31:48,359 Everybody has seen us take him. 1635 01:31:48,392 --> 01:31:49,593 That don't matter. 1636 01:31:50,728 --> 01:31:51,829 You sure about that? 1637 01:31:51,862 --> 01:31:55,199 Did you know who everybody was downtown? I didn't. 1638 01:31:55,232 --> 01:31:57,001 There was what looked like feds down there. 1639 01:31:57,034 --> 01:31:59,203 Well, murder is a state charge. 1640 01:31:59,236 --> 01:32:02,239 And you never saw the feds do anything to anybody else any other time. 1641 01:32:02,273 --> 01:32:04,175 This ain't like any other time! 1642 01:32:04,208 --> 01:32:06,310 When they give you all the chair for killing me, 1643 01:32:06,343 --> 01:32:09,013 I guess it'll be justice for everybody else you killed. 1644 01:32:10,147 --> 01:32:11,816 Nobody is getting the chair. 1645 01:32:11,849 --> 01:32:14,652 He's from Alabama. You went to school with him. 1646 01:32:14,685 --> 01:32:16,087 They're gonna give us the chair for sure. 1647 01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:17,388 You knew his daddy's a minister? 1648 01:32:17,421 --> 01:32:20,324 It... Nothing is gonna happen to us. 1649 01:32:20,357 --> 01:32:23,027 Nothing's gonna happen to me 'cause I'm gone. 1650 01:32:23,060 --> 01:32:25,296 You do what you want. Let's go. 1651 01:32:25,329 --> 01:32:28,232 Feds will still get you for aiding and abetting, Jay-Jay. 1652 01:32:43,948 --> 01:32:45,149 Okay! 1653 01:32:48,853 --> 01:32:51,755 What the hell? I didn't give no goddamn signal! 1654 01:32:51,789 --> 01:32:52,890 Cut the rope! 1655 01:32:52,923 --> 01:32:54,625 Cut the goddamn rope. 1656 01:33:30,928 --> 01:33:33,063 Holy Jesus and Mary. 1657 01:33:33,097 --> 01:33:36,901 There was a civil rights march in McComb, Mississippi yesterday. 1658 01:33:36,934 --> 01:33:39,770 Oh... How many people were hurt? 1659 01:33:39,803 --> 01:33:42,173 And guess who they say led it? 1660 01:33:42,206 --> 01:33:45,142 Twenty-two-year-old Robert Zellner. 1661 01:33:45,176 --> 01:33:47,711 - That can't be right. - We better call somebody. 1662 01:33:49,413 --> 01:33:52,349 Operator. I want to make a call to Alabama. 1663 01:33:52,383 --> 01:33:54,385 Hey, there, Mr. Civil Rights leader. 1664 01:33:54,418 --> 01:33:56,153 - Good morning. - How's your neck? 1665 01:33:56,187 --> 01:34:00,357 Oh. My neck already had a tinge of red to it. 1666 01:34:00,391 --> 01:34:02,092 Well... 1667 01:34:02,126 --> 01:34:04,061 according to the New York paper, 1668 01:34:04,094 --> 01:34:08,465 you, Mr. Robert Zellner, led the first civil rights march 1669 01:34:08,499 --> 01:34:10,401 in the great state of Mississippi. 1670 01:34:10,434 --> 01:34:12,002 It's the great state of Alabama. 1671 01:34:12,036 --> 01:34:13,070 What did you say? 1672 01:34:14,972 --> 01:34:17,775 Why would they write that? That's a lie. 1673 01:34:17,808 --> 01:34:20,077 They looked out and saw a hundred Black folk 1674 01:34:20,110 --> 01:34:21,779 and thought they couldn't possibly 1675 01:34:21,812 --> 01:34:24,782 have the guts or brains to pull that off. 1676 01:34:24,815 --> 01:34:28,152 And then they saw you and thought, "Oh, it all makes sense now." 1677 01:34:28,185 --> 01:34:30,354 Man, I didn't mean to. 1678 01:34:30,387 --> 01:34:32,356 No, well, you're famous now. 1679 01:34:32,389 --> 01:34:34,458 But, as my mother always says, 1680 01:34:34,491 --> 01:34:37,895 "Don't believe anything you read, only half of what you see." 1681 01:34:37,928 --> 01:34:39,930 Yeah, right. 1682 01:34:39,964 --> 01:34:41,832 You still plan on skipping town today? 1683 01:34:41,865 --> 01:34:43,934 Reggie told me you have a bus to catch. 1684 01:34:43,968 --> 01:34:46,337 - A bus? - Your friend from the bridge came by 1685 01:34:46,370 --> 01:34:48,205 and burned your car. 1686 01:34:49,006 --> 01:34:50,107 He did what? 1687 01:34:51,809 --> 01:34:53,310 So, you think about 1688 01:34:53,344 --> 01:34:56,247 coming down to visit for Thanksgiving or Christmas break? 1689 01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:57,848 I have been considering it. 1690 01:34:58,482 --> 01:34:59,483 Okay. 1691 01:35:00,384 --> 01:35:02,319 Well, write me. 1692 01:35:02,353 --> 01:35:05,422 You know, you could think about coming up for a visit as well. 1693 01:35:05,456 --> 01:35:08,826 - I could think about that. - Don't think too long. 1694 01:35:08,859 --> 01:35:11,528 And it won't hurt to take a language while you're up. 1695 01:35:26,076 --> 01:35:29,280 Somebody said they saw you coming out here. 1696 01:35:29,313 --> 01:35:32,516 I see you still enjoy the company of mongrels over men. 1697 01:35:32,549 --> 01:35:36,020 Let it go, Bob. Your bus will be here in a minute. 1698 01:35:36,053 --> 01:35:39,223 What the Black bitch says is true. 1699 01:35:39,256 --> 01:35:43,160 Nothing down here is any of your business any which way. 1700 01:35:43,193 --> 01:35:46,163 I just came by to remind you that if you do decide to come back, 1701 01:35:46,196 --> 01:35:47,331 I got something waiting... 1702 01:35:55,139 --> 01:35:57,808 - Bob... - Don't you say another damn thing. 1703 01:36:02,346 --> 01:36:05,449 Hey! I just bought that. 1704 01:36:05,482 --> 01:36:08,452 Don't get in between white folks arguing, you hear me? 1705 01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:11,623 Ain't you supposed to be non-violent now? 1706 01:36:11,656 --> 01:36:13,957 I'm having a real big problem with that right now 1707 01:36:13,991 --> 01:36:16,093 'cause what I want to do is pull you clean out of this truck 1708 01:36:16,126 --> 01:36:17,528 and beat you like there's no tomorrow. 1709 01:36:17,562 --> 01:36:18,763 I want to knock you into next week. 1710 01:36:18,797 --> 01:36:22,032 I want the next face you see to be the emergency room doctor. 1711 01:36:24,034 --> 01:36:27,204 But I don't think I'm gonna do that. 1712 01:36:27,237 --> 01:36:29,506 You're a monster, Doc. You deserve no pity shown to you. 1713 01:36:29,540 --> 01:36:32,443 But you know something else? 1714 01:36:32,476 --> 01:36:35,346 I'm a goddamn monster too and I don't want to be one anymore. 1715 01:36:35,379 --> 01:36:37,582 I don't want to be like every sucker I grew up with. 1716 01:36:41,218 --> 01:36:42,386 See that woman over there? 1717 01:36:45,255 --> 01:36:47,458 She's trying to teach me what it means to be a man. 1718 01:36:47,491 --> 01:36:50,227 She says I should not beat you till your mama won't know ya. 1719 01:36:51,629 --> 01:36:54,998 She says an eye for an eye leaves everybody blind. 1720 01:36:55,032 --> 01:36:58,168 Well, I want to be more like her. 1721 01:36:58,202 --> 01:37:01,138 I don't want to be the horror in some little child's eyes. 1722 01:37:20,324 --> 01:37:22,594 Now, you drive off. 1723 01:37:22,627 --> 01:37:25,963 Don't you turn around, don't you come back here with anybody 1724 01:37:25,996 --> 01:37:27,665 'cause if I ever see you again, 1725 01:37:29,466 --> 01:37:33,003 I'm gonna forgive myself and I don't wanna do that. 1726 01:37:33,036 --> 01:37:36,540 And not just 'cause she wouldn't like it but that would be enough. 1727 01:37:36,574 --> 01:37:38,208 Can we agree on that? 1728 01:37:58,162 --> 01:37:59,597 You missed your bus. 1729 01:38:01,331 --> 01:38:03,133 Ah, no, that wasn't my bus. 1730 01:38:03,668 --> 01:38:05,202 My nigger. 1731 01:38:05,637 --> 01:38:06,638 What? 1732 01:38:11,408 --> 01:38:13,678 My nigger! Yeah! Look at you go! 1733 01:38:13,711 --> 01:38:16,213 I saw you. Oh, you were gonna get him, yeah! 1734 01:38:16,246 --> 01:38:18,650 - Is that supposed to be a compliment? - Mm-hmm. Little bit. 1735 01:38:20,551 --> 01:38:23,520 What are we, uh... What are we supposed to do now? 1736 01:38:23,554 --> 01:38:25,322 We're gonna check on McDew and the others 1737 01:38:25,355 --> 01:38:27,257 and see how they're doing in county jail. 1738 01:38:27,291 --> 01:38:30,127 All right. Well, I guess I better go too, then. 1739 01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:34,498 Oh! So you're gonna give this whole civil rights thing a try? 1740 01:38:34,531 --> 01:38:37,067 Oh, you know me, I'll try anything three times. 1741 01:38:37,100 --> 01:38:39,737 - Easy white boy, let's go. - All right. Come on. 1742 01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:34,659 We think that in order to facilitate change, 1743 01:39:34,692 --> 01:39:37,394 and in order to create the type of society 1744 01:39:37,427 --> 01:39:40,330 that we think that we all basically want, 1745 01:39:40,364 --> 01:39:44,301 that we have to take this sort of peaceful, non-violent direct action. 1746 01:39:44,334 --> 01:39:47,705 How long will this group remain outside this locked door, Mr. Zellner? 1747 01:39:47,739 --> 01:39:52,376 We'll stand here until we're able to reach some sort of agreement 1748 01:39:52,409 --> 01:39:54,311 to open the restaurant. 1749 01:39:54,344 --> 01:39:57,214 Attempt to stand here as long as we're able. 1750 01:39:57,247 --> 01:39:59,584 Do you feel that your position is reasonable? 1751 01:39:59,617 --> 01:40:03,287 I think so. And I think that it's the only way to do it. 1752 01:40:22,774 --> 01:40:24,842 My philosophy is very simple. 1753 01:40:24,876 --> 01:40:27,544 When you see something that is not right, 1754 01:40:27,579 --> 01:40:30,113 not fair, not just, 1755 01:40:30,147 --> 01:40:33,317 you have a moral obligation to say something, to do something, 1756 01:40:33,350 --> 01:40:35,853 stand up, speak up, speak out. 126900

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