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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:55,041 --> 00:00:57,750 ( audience applauding ) 2 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,667 ( mic feedback ) 3 00:01:07,667 --> 00:01:10,792 I get asked that question all the time. 4 00:01:10,792 --> 00:01:14,458 "What is the number one civil rights issue of the day?" 5 00:01:14,458 --> 00:01:17,792 You know, in magazine interviews-- you have to start ranking. 6 00:01:17,792 --> 00:01:19,709 I'm very uncomfortable with that question 7 00:01:19,709 --> 00:01:23,166 because it is impossible 8 00:01:23,166 --> 00:01:27,208 to talk about the criminal justice system, 9 00:01:27,208 --> 00:01:29,166 mass incarceration, 10 00:01:29,166 --> 00:01:33,834 without talking about education. 11 00:01:33,834 --> 00:01:39,166 Because this country is always engaged in investments. 12 00:01:40,250 --> 00:01:42,000 We make big investments, right? 13 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,667 We make big bets. 14 00:01:43,667 --> 00:01:46,917 The 1950s, this country massively invested 15 00:01:46,917 --> 00:01:48,291 in the creation of the suburbs. 16 00:01:48,291 --> 00:01:50,667 We created an interstate highway system. 17 00:01:50,667 --> 00:01:52,709 We provided, you know, tax credits, 18 00:01:52,709 --> 00:01:54,417 to developers to build suburbs-- 19 00:01:54,417 --> 00:01:56,709 which are racially exclusionary, by the way-- 20 00:01:56,709 --> 00:01:59,417 we made an investment in creating a middle class, 21 00:01:59,417 --> 00:02:01,083 really going back to the 1930s 22 00:02:01,083 --> 00:02:03,583 where the federal government started to insure mortgages-- 23 00:02:03,583 --> 00:02:05,875 only insured mortgages for white people-- 24 00:02:05,875 --> 00:02:07,083 but we made an investment. 25 00:02:07,083 --> 00:02:08,291 We made an investment 26 00:02:08,291 --> 00:02:10,500 after the war with the GI Bill 27 00:02:10,500 --> 00:02:16,208 in the decision that we wanted our veterans to come home and become middle class. 28 00:02:16,208 --> 00:02:19,458 So we make these massive investments. 29 00:02:19,458 --> 00:02:23,959 Now today, we pretend that we don't make investments. 30 00:02:23,959 --> 00:02:26,166 Because we talk about balancing the budget 31 00:02:26,166 --> 00:02:30,166 and the deficit, but we always make investments. 32 00:02:30,166 --> 00:02:34,166 And one of the huge investments that we made 33 00:02:34,166 --> 00:02:37,208 was in the criminal justice system, 34 00:02:37,208 --> 00:02:39,041 and that investment was made 35 00:02:39,041 --> 00:02:42,583 at the expense of other investments. 36 00:02:42,583 --> 00:02:46,417 We have taken dollars that we used to give 37 00:02:46,417 --> 00:02:47,917 and that we could give 38 00:02:47,917 --> 00:02:51,333 to invest in the issue of mental illness. 39 00:02:51,333 --> 00:02:55,458 It's not that we're not investing in mental illness, we are. 40 00:02:55,458 --> 00:02:57,959 We're investing in it in the prison system. 41 00:02:57,959 --> 00:03:00,583 It's not, you know, that we decided to cut the budget 42 00:03:00,583 --> 00:03:02,834 and so we're not investing in education. 43 00:03:02,834 --> 00:03:04,000 Yeah, kind of. 44 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,417 We took it to the prison system. 45 00:03:05,417 --> 00:03:09,250 So what we do is, we take these investments 46 00:03:09,250 --> 00:03:11,750 that we could make, these big bets, 47 00:03:11,750 --> 00:03:13,875 and we place them somewhere. 48 00:03:13,875 --> 00:03:15,917 And that's what we call policy. 49 00:03:15,917 --> 00:03:18,750 Which, you know, makes people's eyes glaze over, 50 00:03:18,750 --> 00:03:23,417 but we should understand that policy is made up of the investments 51 00:03:23,417 --> 00:03:27,583 that we, as a society, decide to make. 52 00:03:30,333 --> 00:03:33,458 There's a lot of heaviness in the country 53 00:03:33,458 --> 00:03:35,625 at the moment, a lot of pain. 54 00:03:35,625 --> 00:03:39,750 But sometimes, you have to have these moments 55 00:03:39,750 --> 00:03:42,792 if we're going to move our society forward. 56 00:03:42,792 --> 00:03:44,208 It takes moments, 57 00:03:44,208 --> 00:03:48,542 kind of almost epic moments, to move us. 58 00:03:48,542 --> 00:03:50,542 And there-- there is a way 59 00:03:50,542 --> 00:03:53,166 in which we are confronting this moment. 60 00:03:53,166 --> 00:03:56,959 And there's a privilege in that confrontation. 61 00:03:56,959 --> 00:03:59,834 - ( applause ) - ( music playing ) 62 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,792 ( distorted audio of man yelling ) 63 00:04:26,375 --> 00:04:27,959 Woman: That boy's leg look broke. 64 00:04:27,959 --> 00:04:29,500 - Woman #2: Oh, my God. - His leg broke 65 00:04:29,500 --> 00:04:30,834 and y'all dragging him like that! 66 00:04:30,834 --> 00:04:32,291 Man: Shorty, that was after 67 00:04:32,291 --> 00:04:33,917 they tased ( bleep ) out him like that. 68 00:04:33,917 --> 00:04:35,834 My wrist, yo, my wrist. 69 00:04:35,834 --> 00:04:37,500 - Man #2: Get his badge number, yo. - ( screams ) 70 00:04:37,500 --> 00:04:38,709 Man: What car they come out of, yo? 71 00:04:38,709 --> 00:04:40,166 Him right there. He on a bike. 72 00:04:40,166 --> 00:04:42,000 I got it, don't worry about it. 73 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,834 Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it, yo. 74 00:04:45,291 --> 00:04:46,750 After they tase you like that, 75 00:04:46,750 --> 00:04:49,291 you wonder why he can't use his legs. 76 00:04:52,792 --> 00:04:55,083 ( distant police sirens ) 77 00:04:55,083 --> 00:04:57,250 The screams is what woke me out of my sleep. 78 00:04:57,250 --> 00:04:58,667 The screaming-- I was like, "Well, wow! 79 00:04:58,667 --> 00:04:59,917 What's all the screaming about?" 80 00:04:59,917 --> 00:05:01,291 And then they came to pull me up. 81 00:05:01,291 --> 00:05:02,667 Like, "Dude, they're tasing him. 82 00:05:02,667 --> 00:05:04,625 They're tasing him." Like, whoo! 83 00:05:04,625 --> 00:05:06,458 I jumped up, I threw some clothes on, 84 00:05:06,458 --> 00:05:07,959 and I came out that way. 85 00:05:07,959 --> 00:05:10,041 By then, they had him all bent up. 86 00:05:10,041 --> 00:05:11,458 He was face-down on his stomach. 87 00:05:11,458 --> 00:05:13,750 He was handcuffed and they had the heels of his feet 88 00:05:13,750 --> 00:05:16,709 almost to his back and he was handcuffed at the time. 89 00:05:16,709 --> 00:05:17,750 And they had the knee in neck, 90 00:05:17,750 --> 00:05:19,250 and that pretty much explains 91 00:05:19,250 --> 00:05:21,458 the three cracked vertebrae, the crushed larynx, 92 00:05:21,458 --> 00:05:24,041 and 80% of his spinal cord being severed and stuff. 93 00:05:24,041 --> 00:05:27,000 And then I had to zoom in to get a closer look on his face. 94 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,625 You could see the pain in the man's face, you know what I'm saying? 95 00:05:29,625 --> 00:05:31,500 And then they pulled around on Mount Street 96 00:05:31,500 --> 00:05:32,875 and they pulled him out again. 97 00:05:32,875 --> 00:05:34,375 And they put leg shackles on him. 98 00:05:34,375 --> 00:05:36,583 You put leg shackles on a man 99 00:05:36,583 --> 00:05:38,417 that can barely walk to the paddy wagon? 100 00:05:38,417 --> 00:05:40,917 That don't make sense to me, and I never known 101 00:05:40,917 --> 00:05:42,875 an on-the-beat officer to carry leg shackles 102 00:05:42,875 --> 00:05:44,875 and on his person in a van. 103 00:05:44,875 --> 00:05:47,000 That's something that you do when you going 104 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,208 to another compound or when you're being 105 00:05:49,208 --> 00:05:51,417 transported to the court or something like that. 106 00:05:51,417 --> 00:05:53,709 They don't put leg shackles on you outside. 107 00:05:53,709 --> 00:05:56,875 They just don't do it. So you put leg shackles on a man that can't walk. 108 00:05:56,875 --> 00:05:59,458 You know, so you toss him in the back of a paddy wagon 109 00:05:59,458 --> 00:06:01,125 like a dead animal, you know what I'm saying? 110 00:06:01,125 --> 00:06:03,166 You don't even put a seatbelt on him. 111 00:06:03,166 --> 00:06:06,375 So basically, he's handcuffed, shackled, sliding back and forth 112 00:06:06,375 --> 00:06:08,583 in the back of a steel cage, basically. 113 00:06:08,583 --> 00:06:10,250 'Cause it's not padded back there. 114 00:06:10,250 --> 00:06:12,583 I don't know why everybody always seems to say, 115 00:06:12,583 --> 00:06:17,083 "Oh, oh, it's-- it's pa-- it's pad"-- no, it's not padded. 116 00:06:17,083 --> 00:06:19,250 It's about as padded as the outside of that van. 117 00:06:19,250 --> 00:06:23,250 It's ridiculous how bad they hurt that man. Let me-- come on! 118 00:06:23,250 --> 00:06:25,834 A crushed larynx, can you do that to yourself? 119 00:06:25,834 --> 00:06:28,959 Three cracked vertebrae, can you do that to yourself? 120 00:06:28,959 --> 00:06:32,625 Can you sever 80% of your own spinal cord 121 00:06:32,625 --> 00:06:34,458 in the back of a paddy wagon, 122 00:06:34,458 --> 00:06:36,333 shackled and handcuffed no less? 123 00:06:36,333 --> 00:06:38,208 ( stutters ) It's just-- whoo! 124 00:06:38,208 --> 00:06:41,250 I just-- I wish you could see how they had him. 125 00:06:41,250 --> 00:06:44,208 I was like, "Man, this shit is crazy, man. 126 00:06:44,208 --> 00:06:45,458 Man, it's crazy! 127 00:06:45,458 --> 00:06:47,041 They just don't care anymore!" 128 00:06:47,041 --> 00:06:49,000 I was like, "Man we got-- we gotta get the word out 129 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,291 that this is happening." 130 00:06:50,291 --> 00:06:51,875 I was like, "Man, we gotta record this 131 00:06:51,875 --> 00:06:53,125 because this is the only-- 132 00:06:53,125 --> 00:06:55,125 this is the only weapon that we have." 133 00:06:55,125 --> 00:06:58,583 You know, the camera is really the only thing we have to protect ourselves 134 00:06:58,583 --> 00:07:00,333 that's not illegal, you know what I'm saying? 135 00:07:00,333 --> 00:07:02,458 But in the same sense, they could say, "Oh, well, 136 00:07:02,458 --> 00:07:04,375 I mistook your camera for a gun," you know what I'm saying? 137 00:07:04,375 --> 00:07:06,000 - That's what I'm saying. - ( audience murmurs ) 138 00:07:07,166 --> 00:07:09,667 Uh... ( chuckles ) no. 139 00:07:09,667 --> 00:07:11,375 Actually, I took it with my phone. 140 00:07:11,375 --> 00:07:14,667 ( laughs ) And I had some brothers from Ferguson, 141 00:07:14,667 --> 00:07:16,583 they came out and supported me. Yeah! 142 00:07:16,583 --> 00:07:19,166 Matter of fact, the brothers from Ferguson 143 00:07:19,166 --> 00:07:20,792 spent the night at my house, yeah. 144 00:07:20,792 --> 00:07:23,333 And then, they took me around to Best Buy 145 00:07:23,333 --> 00:07:25,542 and they bought me, like, four cameras. 146 00:07:25,542 --> 00:07:27,208 Yeah, basically arming me. 147 00:07:27,208 --> 00:07:28,709 Yeah. ( inhales ) 148 00:07:28,709 --> 00:07:33,208 Yeah, it's a movement and it's not gonna stop. 149 00:07:33,208 --> 00:07:35,333 ( cell phone chiming ) 150 00:07:41,959 --> 00:07:43,500 Eye contact. 151 00:07:43,500 --> 00:07:47,250 Well, yeah, I guess that whole... 152 00:07:49,083 --> 00:07:53,542 I guess the whole eye contact thing, I guess that was... 153 00:07:53,542 --> 00:07:54,792 ( exhales ) I've lived with 154 00:07:54,792 --> 00:07:56,375 the Freddie Gray story since the beginning. 155 00:07:56,375 --> 00:07:59,208 I guess that's-- what the officers wrote up 156 00:07:59,208 --> 00:08:03,458 in the report, you know, that he made eye contact or he looked suspicious 157 00:08:03,458 --> 00:08:07,583 and that gave 'em probable cause, but we know the truth. 158 00:08:07,583 --> 00:08:12,917 Just a glance, that's... that's all it takes in Baltimore 159 00:08:12,917 --> 00:08:15,709 for something like this to happen. 160 00:08:15,709 --> 00:08:17,083 ( gulps ) 161 00:08:20,709 --> 00:08:22,917 Have you ever been to a place... 162 00:08:25,458 --> 00:08:30,291 where you don't feel tired... 163 00:08:30,291 --> 00:08:33,542 you're just tired of being tired? 164 00:08:35,583 --> 00:08:38,583 Where you're fed up... 165 00:08:40,333 --> 00:08:43,125 and there's nothing else left 166 00:08:43,125 --> 00:08:46,083 and you can't get any lower. 167 00:08:46,083 --> 00:08:48,250 Past rock bottom, past that. 168 00:08:49,959 --> 00:08:53,125 That's where I've been. You know, so... 169 00:08:56,166 --> 00:08:58,333 You gotta keep fighting. You gotta keep climbing. 170 00:08:58,333 --> 00:09:00,625 You gotta keep fighting. You gotta keep praying. 171 00:09:00,625 --> 00:09:03,041 You gotta do all the things you know 172 00:09:03,041 --> 00:09:06,083 to make yourself stronger, 'cause in the end, 173 00:09:06,083 --> 00:09:08,917 you're gonna need every bit of strength that you can muster 174 00:09:08,917 --> 00:09:10,792 to get yourself from this hole. 175 00:09:10,792 --> 00:09:12,792 It's like a bunch of crabs pulling you back. 176 00:09:12,792 --> 00:09:14,458 It's like quicksand, and you fighting 177 00:09:14,458 --> 00:09:17,583 and you fighting and you sinking faster and faster. 178 00:09:18,875 --> 00:09:21,500 And I hated that Baltimore is going through 179 00:09:21,500 --> 00:09:23,834 such harsh times right now. 180 00:09:23,834 --> 00:09:26,959 The fact that my children may have to fight this fight. 181 00:09:26,959 --> 00:09:30,041 How am I gonna train my children to deal with this? 182 00:09:30,041 --> 00:09:32,000 I'm not gonna be here forever. 183 00:09:33,542 --> 00:09:35,750 The leaders? ( scoffs ) Man. 184 00:09:35,750 --> 00:09:37,667 Man! 185 00:09:37,667 --> 00:09:40,041 The leaders are acting pretty assholeish right now. 186 00:09:40,041 --> 00:09:42,333 There's just so much the leaders can do, you know what I'm saying? 187 00:09:42,333 --> 00:09:43,792 There's just so much they can say. 188 00:09:43,792 --> 00:09:45,166 End of the day, they're gonna make up 189 00:09:45,166 --> 00:09:47,000 their minds what they wanna do. 190 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,917 They're gonna make up their minds what they wanna say. 191 00:09:48,917 --> 00:09:51,250 We can't wait for the leaders to make it better. 192 00:09:51,250 --> 00:09:55,125 We have to make it better. These people are tired. 193 00:09:56,667 --> 00:09:58,667 And they want answers. 194 00:09:58,667 --> 00:10:00,625 And the only way they're gonna get answers 195 00:10:00,625 --> 00:10:03,500 to them is cost the city money. 196 00:10:03,500 --> 00:10:07,000 - ( overlapping yelling ) - ( loud thudding ) 197 00:10:11,333 --> 00:10:13,667 ( overlapping yelling ) 198 00:10:16,709 --> 00:10:18,959 ( man chanting ) No justice, no peace! 199 00:10:18,959 --> 00:10:20,792 No justice, no peace! 200 00:10:20,792 --> 00:10:22,458 We want all six police! 201 00:10:22,458 --> 00:10:24,000 Man 2: Justice! 202 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,875 Bullock: I don't even look the police way. 203 00:10:25,875 --> 00:10:28,667 To tell you the truth, that's-- that's not even me. 204 00:10:30,500 --> 00:10:32,583 They beat me, like, four times. 205 00:10:32,583 --> 00:10:34,709 I remember four times. 206 00:10:34,709 --> 00:10:36,667 Runnin' from them. 207 00:10:36,667 --> 00:10:39,041 That's the only thing they can beat me for is running from them. 208 00:10:39,041 --> 00:10:40,792 They don't like it when you run from them. 209 00:10:40,792 --> 00:10:41,917 There's a lot of people out here 210 00:10:41,917 --> 00:10:43,041 getting beat, getting killed. 211 00:10:43,041 --> 00:10:44,041 This ain't just 'cause 212 00:10:44,041 --> 00:10:45,375 no Freddie Gray got killed. 213 00:10:45,375 --> 00:10:46,959 People die every day. 214 00:10:46,959 --> 00:10:48,542 Police, you feel me, beating people, 215 00:10:48,542 --> 00:10:51,417 harassing people every day. 216 00:10:51,417 --> 00:10:53,375 Oh, they beat me with what's it's name? 217 00:10:53,375 --> 00:10:55,667 I forget what kind of stick. 218 00:10:55,667 --> 00:10:57,875 Sometimes, they use their hands. 219 00:10:57,875 --> 00:10:59,333 You can't protect yourself. 220 00:10:59,333 --> 00:11:01,375 With colored police you can't say too much, 221 00:11:01,375 --> 00:11:04,750 run your mouth, then they really see you running your mouth, 222 00:11:04,750 --> 00:11:06,041 they're gonna do something to you. 223 00:11:06,041 --> 00:11:07,417 They gonna-- especially 224 00:11:07,417 --> 00:11:08,875 if they ain't got no reason to test you. 225 00:11:08,875 --> 00:11:10,709 Oh, they definitely wanna test you. 226 00:11:10,709 --> 00:11:12,875 They chasing you and all that, and they can't find nothing 227 00:11:12,875 --> 00:11:14,750 on you and they're just chasing you, oh-- 228 00:11:14,750 --> 00:11:17,083 ( stutters ) they're gonna make it worth their while. 229 00:11:17,083 --> 00:11:20,417 They're gonna not even put something on you, 230 00:11:20,417 --> 00:11:22,667 they're gonna beat you straight like that. 231 00:11:22,667 --> 00:11:25,583 Ain't no, "Oh, I'm gonna plant something on him," no. 232 00:11:25,583 --> 00:11:29,583 They're gonna do what they wanna do at that time, at that moment. 233 00:11:29,583 --> 00:11:31,417 Oh, it don't-- the-- at this point, 234 00:11:31,417 --> 00:11:33,750 it don't even matter if they black or white. 235 00:11:33,750 --> 00:11:38,083 ( stutters ) I never seen-- it ain't no black or white situation. 236 00:11:38,083 --> 00:11:39,458 I ain't trying to hear that. 237 00:11:39,458 --> 00:11:41,083 'Cause I seen plenty 238 00:11:41,083 --> 00:11:44,417 black police do it on black, you feel me, to black people. 239 00:11:44,417 --> 00:11:46,166 I see plenty of white police do it. 240 00:11:46,166 --> 00:11:49,000 I see 'em do it together. This ain't no racist thing. 241 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,125 I don't see no racist thing come into play. 242 00:11:53,542 --> 00:11:55,041 They hate. It's a hatred. 243 00:11:55,041 --> 00:11:56,959 They hate, they hate, you feel me? 244 00:11:56,959 --> 00:11:59,583 What's the whole point of you locking me up or beating me up 245 00:11:59,583 --> 00:12:01,291 if you can't find nothing on me? 246 00:12:01,291 --> 00:12:05,000 Why? 'Cause I made you run? Oh, come on, now! 247 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,625 You trained to do this. 248 00:12:06,625 --> 00:12:09,834 ( siren wailing ) 249 00:12:09,834 --> 00:12:13,291 Hey, stuff happen every day in Baltimore city. 250 00:12:14,625 --> 00:12:17,959 ♪ Pass me not ♪ 251 00:12:17,959 --> 00:12:22,625 ♪ O gentle Savior ♪ 252 00:12:24,542 --> 00:12:29,959 ♪ Hear my humble cry ♪ 253 00:12:34,792 --> 00:12:39,250 ♪ While on others ♪ 254 00:12:39,250 --> 00:12:44,125 ♪ Thou art calling ♪ 255 00:12:45,667 --> 00:12:51,125 ♪ Do not pass me by ♪ 256 00:12:52,166 --> 00:12:55,208 ( organ playing ) 257 00:12:56,458 --> 00:13:01,375 ♪ Savior ♪ 258 00:13:01,375 --> 00:13:06,333 ♪ Savior, Savior ♪ 259 00:13:06,333 --> 00:13:09,291 ♪ Hear my ♪ 260 00:13:09,291 --> 00:13:14,375 ♪ Humble cry ♪ 261 00:13:17,083 --> 00:13:20,375 The Families United for Justice, 262 00:13:20,375 --> 00:13:23,417 they drove through the night from New York to be here. 263 00:13:23,417 --> 00:13:24,542 ( applause ) 264 00:13:24,542 --> 00:13:27,417 I want you to know who is with us. 265 00:13:27,417 --> 00:13:31,709 I'm thankful for the daughter of Eric Garner... 266 00:13:31,709 --> 00:13:36,750 - ( applause ) - ...who is here with us. 267 00:13:36,750 --> 00:13:42,291 The mother of Amadou Diallo is here with us. 268 00:13:42,291 --> 00:13:46,959 The mother of Kimani Gray is here with us. 269 00:13:46,959 --> 00:13:52,333 The sister of Shantel Davis is here with us. 270 00:13:52,333 --> 00:13:57,750 The mother of Ramarley Graham is with us. 271 00:13:57,750 --> 00:14:03,125 The niece of Alberta Spruill is here with us. 272 00:14:03,125 --> 00:14:08,375 For all of them, would you give God a handclap of praise? 273 00:14:08,375 --> 00:14:10,542 Thank you so much for coming. 274 00:14:12,083 --> 00:14:17,458 Would you find your way to Luke, chapter 7. 275 00:14:17,458 --> 00:14:20,375 Luke, chapter 7. 276 00:14:20,375 --> 00:14:24,166 I want to illuminate for your understanding 277 00:14:24,166 --> 00:14:28,041 verses 11 through 15. 278 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:36,083 "Soon afterward, Jesus went to a town called Nain... 279 00:14:36,083 --> 00:14:40,125 and his disciples and a large crowd 280 00:14:40,125 --> 00:14:41,959 went along with him. 281 00:14:43,458 --> 00:14:46,041 As he approached the town gate, 282 00:14:46,041 --> 00:14:50,291 a dead boy was being carried out... 283 00:14:50,291 --> 00:14:54,166 the only son of his mother, 284 00:14:54,166 --> 00:14:57,792 and she was a widow. 285 00:14:57,792 --> 00:15:01,959 And a large crowd from the town was with her. 286 00:15:01,959 --> 00:15:05,959 And when the Lord saw her, his heart went out 287 00:15:05,959 --> 00:15:09,041 and he said, 'Don't cry.'" 288 00:15:09,041 --> 00:15:10,667 ( audience murmurs ) 289 00:15:10,667 --> 00:15:13,458 "Then He went up and touched the coffin, 290 00:15:13,458 --> 00:15:16,417 and those carrying it stood still. 291 00:15:16,417 --> 00:15:20,834 - He said, 'Young man, I say to you'"... - Woman: Yes. 292 00:15:20,834 --> 00:15:22,875 - "'...get up.'" - ( audience murmurs ) 293 00:15:22,875 --> 00:15:26,792 "And the dead man sat up and begin to talk. 294 00:15:28,041 --> 00:15:32,542 And Jesus gave him back to his mother." 295 00:15:34,166 --> 00:15:35,458 I'm gonna preach for a little while 296 00:15:35,458 --> 00:15:37,375 on the subject "Breaking the box." 297 00:15:37,375 --> 00:15:39,333 Audience: Breaking the box. 298 00:15:39,333 --> 00:15:43,500 Sociologists have unearthed a newfound phenomenon 299 00:15:43,500 --> 00:15:46,000 called quarter-life crisis. 300 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,166 And it says that this generation of youth in their mid-20s 301 00:15:50,166 --> 00:15:53,750 begin meandering through the painstaking task 302 00:15:53,750 --> 00:15:58,667 of asking themselves, "What am I gonna do with my life? 303 00:15:58,667 --> 00:16:01,333 Is there any hope for me? 304 00:16:01,333 --> 00:16:04,750 What should I have done differently?" 305 00:16:04,750 --> 00:16:08,792 Grandmother, I need you to know 306 00:16:08,792 --> 00:16:12,542 that Freddie had to have been going through a quarter mid-life crisis. 307 00:16:12,542 --> 00:16:17,542 'Cause at 25 years of age, being black in Baltimore, 308 00:16:17,542 --> 00:16:20,959 no opportunities to go to Johns Hopkins. 309 00:16:20,959 --> 00:16:24,125 No doors open at the University of Maryland. 310 00:16:24,125 --> 00:16:28,542 No scholarship to Morgan and no access to Coppin. 311 00:16:29,959 --> 00:16:33,041 In a place where I have minimal opportunities, 312 00:16:33,041 --> 00:16:37,542 Freddie had to have asked, "When I can walk down the Harbor 313 00:16:37,542 --> 00:16:41,166 and see Exelon, Under Armour, 314 00:16:41,166 --> 00:16:45,291 when it is that I can look across the water and see millions of dollars 315 00:16:45,291 --> 00:16:48,458 being poured into Camden Yards, 316 00:16:48,458 --> 00:16:50,291 M&T Stadium," 317 00:16:50,291 --> 00:16:56,083 he had to have asked, "What am I gonna do with my life?" 318 00:16:56,083 --> 00:17:01,834 He had to feel almost as if he was boxed in. 319 00:17:01,834 --> 00:17:05,875 And on April the 12th at 8:39 in the morning, 320 00:17:05,875 --> 00:17:09,375 four officers on bicycles saw your son. 321 00:17:09,375 --> 00:17:13,750 And your son, in a subtlety of revolutionary stance, 322 00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:16,792 did something that black men are trained to, taught, 323 00:17:16,792 --> 00:17:21,250 know not to do-- he looked police in the eye. 324 00:17:21,250 --> 00:17:23,125 And I want to tell this grieving mother, 325 00:17:23,125 --> 00:17:25,583 you are not burying a boy. 326 00:17:25,583 --> 00:17:28,792 You are burying a grown man who knew that one 327 00:17:28,792 --> 00:17:30,583 of the principles of being a man 328 00:17:30,583 --> 00:17:32,750 is looking somebody in the eye. 329 00:17:34,250 --> 00:17:37,291 At 8:40, your son began running from the police. 330 00:17:37,291 --> 00:17:38,792 He began running. 331 00:17:38,792 --> 00:17:41,083 At 8:41, according to the timeline, he stopped. 332 00:17:41,083 --> 00:17:43,667 He stopped not because he was out of breath. 333 00:17:43,667 --> 00:17:45,792 He stopped not because he was a weakling. 334 00:17:45,792 --> 00:17:49,000 He stopped not because asthma had kicked in. 335 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,083 He stopped because somewhere in the inner recesses 336 00:17:52,083 --> 00:17:54,625 of his own mind, he made up in his mind, 337 00:17:54,625 --> 00:17:57,917 "I'm tired of living in a box," 338 00:17:57,917 --> 00:18:01,000 and so he stopped running. 339 00:18:03,291 --> 00:18:06,333 So as we jaywalk in our text, 340 00:18:06,333 --> 00:18:10,667 we notice that Jesus and his disciples 341 00:18:10,667 --> 00:18:15,667 are coming to an unknown hamlet of a town known Nain. 342 00:18:15,667 --> 00:18:18,667 And Jesus is overwhelmed by this crowd 343 00:18:18,667 --> 00:18:22,417 and he stops as he's seeing the funeral processional. 344 00:18:22,417 --> 00:18:25,083 And Jesus says to this mother, "Don't cry. 345 00:18:25,083 --> 00:18:26,500 Whatever you do, don't cry." 346 00:18:26,500 --> 00:18:28,500 It's a strange prescription 347 00:18:28,500 --> 00:18:30,625 to give to a family in pain, don't cry, 348 00:18:30,625 --> 00:18:34,041 when the Bible declares that weeping may endure for a night 349 00:18:34,041 --> 00:18:36,333 and joy comes in the morning. 350 00:18:36,333 --> 00:18:39,333 He says to the mother, "Don't cry." 351 00:18:39,333 --> 00:18:42,083 But I came to tell this grandmother, 352 00:18:42,083 --> 00:18:46,333 I came to tell the aunt, I came to tell Freddie, Sr., 353 00:18:46,333 --> 00:18:49,417 I came to tell Freddie's five sisters: don't cry. 354 00:18:49,417 --> 00:18:51,959 And the reason why I want you not to cry 355 00:18:51,959 --> 00:18:54,875 is because Freddie's death is not in vain. 356 00:18:54,875 --> 00:18:57,625 After this day, we gonna keep on marching. 357 00:18:57,625 --> 00:19:01,208 After this day, we gonna keep demanding justice. 358 00:19:01,208 --> 00:19:06,000 After this day, we gonna keep exposing a culture of corruption. 359 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,500 After this day, we gonna keep monitoring our own neighborhood. 360 00:19:09,500 --> 00:19:14,250 - Whatever you do, don't cry. - Woman: Don't cry. Whatever. 361 00:19:14,250 --> 00:19:18,917 And I'm praying to God that God will lay his hand 362 00:19:18,917 --> 00:19:23,083 on everything that's trying to keep black people in a box. 363 00:19:23,083 --> 00:19:27,542 And I don't know if I'm talking about redlining of zip codes 364 00:19:27,542 --> 00:19:30,583 or gentrification or whether I'm talking about 365 00:19:30,583 --> 00:19:34,250 our prison pipeline or inadequate public schools. 366 00:19:34,250 --> 00:19:39,583 Whatever box has been placed around the life and future 367 00:19:39,583 --> 00:19:44,417 - of young black babies in this city... - ( applause ) 368 00:19:44,417 --> 00:19:48,125 ...I'm praying God put your hand on the box. 369 00:19:50,208 --> 00:19:55,750 He said, "Watch this," to this young man in the box still. 370 00:19:58,083 --> 00:19:59,208 Get up. 371 00:20:01,750 --> 00:20:04,250 This is not the time for us as a people 372 00:20:04,250 --> 00:20:07,417 to be sitting on a corner, drinking malt liquor. 373 00:20:07,417 --> 00:20:10,625 This is not the time for us to be playing the lottery 374 00:20:10,625 --> 00:20:12,792 or to be at the Horseshoe Casino. 375 00:20:12,792 --> 00:20:15,834 This is not the time for us to be walking around 376 00:20:15,834 --> 00:20:19,125 with our pants hanging down past our behind. 377 00:20:19,125 --> 00:20:21,709 This is not the time for no respect 378 00:20:21,709 --> 00:20:23,792 for our history and our legacy. 379 00:20:23,792 --> 00:20:27,083 This is not the time for tattoos all over your neck. 380 00:20:27,083 --> 00:20:29,583 He said I need you to get up 381 00:20:29,583 --> 00:20:32,041 in spite of the fact that they spend more money 382 00:20:32,041 --> 00:20:35,625 on special education than they do on gifted and talented programs. 383 00:20:35,625 --> 00:20:39,166 Get yourself up in spite of what they told you 384 00:20:39,166 --> 00:20:41,542 that you ought to be or what you gonna become. 385 00:20:41,542 --> 00:20:44,208 Get up! You are not Lil Wayne. 386 00:20:44,208 --> 00:20:46,125 - You are not Lil Boosie. - ( applause ) 387 00:20:46,125 --> 00:20:49,125 You are in the legacy and the mantle 388 00:20:49,125 --> 00:20:52,667 of Thurgood Marshall and Clarence Mitchell, Sr. 389 00:20:52,667 --> 00:20:55,834 and Parren Mitchell and Kweisi Mfume. 390 00:20:55,834 --> 00:21:01,834 Get your black self up and change this city. 391 00:21:06,834 --> 00:21:08,667 He speaks to him. 392 00:21:08,667 --> 00:21:14,625 And he says to this young man, "Get up." 393 00:21:14,625 --> 00:21:18,625 And he never opens the casket. 394 00:21:18,625 --> 00:21:21,041 You miss what I just said? 395 00:21:21,041 --> 00:21:24,458 He tells the young man, "Get up," 396 00:21:24,458 --> 00:21:28,875 when he's in a closed casket. 397 00:21:28,875 --> 00:21:32,000 He is sending a message to Black America-- 398 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,959 Don't expect nobody to open the door for you. 399 00:21:34,959 --> 00:21:38,208 If they won't open the door, kick that sucker down 400 00:21:38,208 --> 00:21:39,417 and get what you need. 401 00:21:39,417 --> 00:21:40,333 Get up. 402 00:21:42,709 --> 00:21:44,834 And the young man got up. 403 00:21:44,834 --> 00:21:47,000 When he was supposed to be dead, 404 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:51,166 supposed to be over, he got up without any prompting, 405 00:21:51,166 --> 00:21:53,875 ladies and gentlemen, and he started talking. 406 00:21:53,875 --> 00:21:56,083 I don't know how you can be black in America 407 00:21:56,083 --> 00:21:58,959 and be silent with everything we going through. 408 00:21:58,959 --> 00:22:02,959 With our children being gunned down in the street. 409 00:22:02,959 --> 00:22:06,375 Freddie. Freddie. 410 00:22:06,375 --> 00:22:12,208 Just like this boy in Luke, chapter 7, 411 00:22:12,208 --> 00:22:14,667 he broke out of the box. 412 00:22:14,667 --> 00:22:20,000 And again, Luke, the gospel writer and physician, has let me down, 413 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,875 because when that boy broke out of the box, 414 00:22:22,875 --> 00:22:26,709 Luke forgot to tell me what that boy said, 415 00:22:26,709 --> 00:22:28,583 getting out of the casket. 416 00:22:29,834 --> 00:22:32,083 But if you allow me to validate 417 00:22:32,083 --> 00:22:36,917 my sanctified imagination, when that black boy 418 00:22:36,917 --> 00:22:40,583 broke out of the casket, you wanna know what he said? 419 00:22:40,583 --> 00:22:45,041 - ( audience responds ) - He said, "No justice!" 420 00:22:45,041 --> 00:22:46,458 Audience: No peace! 421 00:22:46,458 --> 00:22:50,291 - No justice! - No peace! 422 00:22:50,291 --> 00:22:53,792 - No justice! - No peace! 423 00:22:53,792 --> 00:22:56,875 - ( music playing ) - Audience: No justice, no peace. 424 00:22:56,875 --> 00:22:59,625 - Woman: No justice. - All: No peace! 425 00:22:59,625 --> 00:23:03,875 - ♪ Do not ♪ - Woman: Why are you fighting? 426 00:23:03,875 --> 00:23:06,542 - ♪ Do not ♪ - For what? 427 00:23:06,542 --> 00:23:11,041 - ( woman vocalizing ) - ( all chanting ) Freddie! Freddie! Freddie! 428 00:23:11,041 --> 00:23:12,750 Man: Hands up! 429 00:23:12,750 --> 00:23:14,625 Hands up! 430 00:23:14,625 --> 00:23:16,625 - Man: No justice. - All: No peace! 431 00:23:16,625 --> 00:23:18,500 - Man: No justice. - All: No peace! 432 00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:21,750 - Man: No justice. - All: No peace! 433 00:23:21,750 --> 00:23:23,875 - ( police sirens ) - ( woman vocalizing ) 434 00:23:23,875 --> 00:23:26,000 ( helicopter thrumming ) 435 00:23:27,333 --> 00:23:29,709 ( sirens wailing ) 436 00:23:29,709 --> 00:23:35,166 ♪ ...pass me by. ♪ 437 00:23:41,959 --> 00:23:43,208 ( music playing ) 438 00:23:43,208 --> 00:23:44,917 Woman: Did you hear about the rose 439 00:23:44,917 --> 00:23:48,667 that grew from a crack in the concrete? 440 00:23:48,667 --> 00:23:50,583 Proving nature's laws wrong, 441 00:23:50,583 --> 00:23:54,291 it learned how to walk without having feet. 442 00:23:54,291 --> 00:23:57,000 Funny it seems, but by keeping its dreams 443 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,583 it learned to breathe fresh air. 444 00:24:00,583 --> 00:24:03,583 Long live the rose that grew from concrete 445 00:24:03,583 --> 00:24:05,959 when no one else even cared. 446 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,583 No one else even cared. 447 00:24:09,583 --> 00:24:11,375 ( music playing ) 448 00:24:19,166 --> 00:24:20,709 What do I say about Stockton? 449 00:24:20,709 --> 00:24:22,709 Stockton's really ground zero for a lot 450 00:24:22,709 --> 00:24:24,709 of issues facing America right now. 451 00:24:24,709 --> 00:24:28,166 Um, my aspirations? 452 00:24:28,166 --> 00:24:30,375 Oh, you're gonna laugh. They're pretty simple. 453 00:24:30,375 --> 00:24:32,917 Uh, I just want a grocery store. 454 00:24:32,917 --> 00:24:35,542 There's no grocery stores. I had no idea. 455 00:24:35,542 --> 00:24:37,375 I don't-- I don't eat really healthy. 456 00:24:37,375 --> 00:24:39,542 I eat out a lot. People wanna buy you lunch all the time. 457 00:24:39,542 --> 00:24:41,041 Then they have meetings. 458 00:24:41,041 --> 00:24:42,500 I knew it was a food desert, 459 00:24:42,500 --> 00:24:43,917 'cause I studied it in college, 460 00:24:43,917 --> 00:24:45,250 but I had no idea until, 461 00:24:45,250 --> 00:24:46,667 my girlfriend's vegetarian, 462 00:24:46,667 --> 00:24:48,625 she's from Stanford, and she came 463 00:24:48,625 --> 00:24:50,125 to live with me like, a week. 464 00:24:50,125 --> 00:24:51,542 And she was breaking out. 465 00:24:51,542 --> 00:24:53,667 She was like, "Michael, I just want an apple. 466 00:24:53,667 --> 00:24:55,125 Where can I find an apple?" 467 00:24:55,125 --> 00:24:57,458 And I couldn't think of where to get her an apple. 468 00:24:57,458 --> 00:25:00,041 I was like, "I don't know where I could get you an apple from." 469 00:25:00,041 --> 00:25:02,750 It was, like, 20 minutes away, so that really prompted me. 470 00:25:02,750 --> 00:25:04,250 Okay, so let's do something about that. 471 00:25:04,250 --> 00:25:05,834 We're doing some work around 472 00:25:05,834 --> 00:25:07,417 boys and men of color alliances, 473 00:25:07,417 --> 00:25:09,250 trying to improve outcomes for boys and men of color. 474 00:25:09,250 --> 00:25:10,750 For a lot of young people in Stockton, 475 00:25:10,750 --> 00:25:12,917 it's just a prevailing sense of nihilism. 476 00:25:12,917 --> 00:25:14,667 I don't think it's peculiar to Stockton, 477 00:25:14,667 --> 00:25:17,542 but I think in any community where you have segregation 478 00:25:17,542 --> 00:25:20,250 along race and class, you have an undercaste of young people 479 00:25:20,250 --> 00:25:22,750 who just feel forgotten, neglected, just angry, 480 00:25:22,750 --> 00:25:24,625 and don't know what to be angry at. 481 00:25:24,625 --> 00:25:28,291 But there's also this amazing resilience. 482 00:25:28,291 --> 00:25:31,208 Whenever I-- whenever I talk to young people in Stockton, 483 00:25:31,208 --> 00:25:35,542 I always quote the Tupac poem about "The Rose That Grew From Concrete." 484 00:25:35,542 --> 00:25:37,583 When he talks about "Long live the rose 485 00:25:37,583 --> 00:25:39,417 that grew from the crack in the concrete 486 00:25:39,417 --> 00:25:41,667 when no one else cared," and I think that really, 487 00:25:41,667 --> 00:25:43,667 really illustrates young people, 488 00:25:43,667 --> 00:25:46,834 in my opinion, in Stockton, who are growing in cracks of concrete, 489 00:25:46,834 --> 00:25:49,458 not in soil, but in concrete-- we're not supposed to grow. 490 00:25:49,458 --> 00:25:51,458 Sometimes they come out a little bit of scars. 491 00:25:51,458 --> 00:25:54,625 Sometimes they come out a couple petals not perfectly right. 492 00:25:54,625 --> 00:25:57,917 But the fact that they are growing and trying to thrive 493 00:25:57,917 --> 00:26:01,291 in a community with so many problems, to me, is inspiring. 494 00:26:01,291 --> 00:26:04,166 - Hmm. - I was on a campaign. 495 00:26:04,166 --> 00:26:06,083 I was reading to a group of first-graders. 496 00:26:06,083 --> 00:26:09,041 I was reading about Dr. Martin King, Jr. 497 00:26:09,041 --> 00:26:10,792 And I got to the point where he was assassinated, 498 00:26:10,792 --> 00:26:12,834 I tried to turn through the page really quickly 499 00:26:12,834 --> 00:26:14,458 'cause I really don't wanna talk 500 00:26:14,458 --> 00:26:17,750 to 6-year-olds about death, so I tried to turn quickly 501 00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:21,625 and one little boy raised his hand and said, "Mr. Tubbs? 502 00:26:21,625 --> 00:26:23,000 My uncle got shot." 503 00:26:24,667 --> 00:26:27,625 He said it so matter-of-fact, I thought his uncle lived. 504 00:26:27,625 --> 00:26:29,583 So I said, "Oh, I'm so sorry, 505 00:26:29,583 --> 00:26:31,083 but I'm glad he's still with us now." 506 00:26:31,083 --> 00:26:33,208 - He said, "Oh, no, he died." - Man: Hmm. 507 00:26:33,208 --> 00:26:34,583 Then another little boy raised his hand. 508 00:26:34,583 --> 00:26:36,208 "Mr. Tubbs, my cousin got shot." 509 00:26:36,208 --> 00:26:37,917 Before I could turn the page, 510 00:26:37,917 --> 00:26:41,417 every student in that classroom knew somebody been shot 511 00:26:41,417 --> 00:26:43,000 or was a victim of violent death. 512 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,500 Young people aren't dumb. 513 00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:46,208 They may not have the fancy academic language, 514 00:26:46,208 --> 00:26:49,625 but they understand that something structurally is wrong. 515 00:26:49,625 --> 00:26:51,750 And that just leads to the nihilism, 516 00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:55,125 and it's particularly-- especially around our young men. 517 00:26:55,125 --> 00:26:57,291 Not for all of them, but for the ones that-- 518 00:26:57,291 --> 00:26:59,333 those are in the school-to-prison pipeline, 519 00:26:59,333 --> 00:27:02,667 those are killing each other, those are the dropouts, 520 00:27:02,667 --> 00:27:05,834 it's just this idea of ( stutters, indistinct )... 521 00:27:05,834 --> 00:27:07,625 the value of life. 522 00:27:07,625 --> 00:27:09,375 Like, my life doesn't matter. 523 00:27:09,375 --> 00:27:11,166 Like, what life is this 524 00:27:11,166 --> 00:27:13,208 when I'm struggling to eat every day? 525 00:27:13,208 --> 00:27:14,542 You know, like, what life is this? 526 00:27:14,542 --> 00:27:16,417 When I-- you know, I talk to young people. 527 00:27:16,417 --> 00:27:20,083 I say, "You know, where you wanna go to college?" 528 00:27:20,083 --> 00:27:21,583 And they-- 529 00:27:21,583 --> 00:27:24,417 "I can't see past 18, realistically." 530 00:27:24,417 --> 00:27:27,583 I said, "No. I want you to sit down, write down your dreams. 531 00:27:27,583 --> 00:27:29,375 What's your goal?" 532 00:27:29,375 --> 00:27:31,125 "I just want to be alive at 25." 533 00:27:31,125 --> 00:27:34,041 - Mm-mm. - It's heartbreaking. 534 00:27:34,041 --> 00:27:37,417 But that's how nihilism manifests itself. 535 00:27:37,417 --> 00:27:38,875 Prison or death. 536 00:27:38,875 --> 00:27:40,709 There's really only one option of opportunity 537 00:27:40,709 --> 00:27:44,667 of boys and men of color in Stockton-- prison or death. 538 00:27:44,667 --> 00:27:48,583 ( man singing in Native American dialect ) 539 00:27:50,917 --> 00:27:53,291 ( music playing ) 540 00:28:29,542 --> 00:28:33,792 Um, got to about 8th grade. 541 00:28:33,792 --> 00:28:37,125 Well, um, I didn't leave, they kicked me out. 542 00:28:38,583 --> 00:28:42,041 Um, got into too many fights. 543 00:28:42,041 --> 00:28:44,125 Always my fault from teachers. 544 00:28:45,375 --> 00:28:46,834 Well, well, well. 545 00:28:46,834 --> 00:28:49,500 I have to say, since I was a kid, 546 00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:52,542 I went to school, I was always in trouble, got kicked out. 547 00:28:52,542 --> 00:28:56,041 And then, they said I hit the teacher in Redwood School-- 548 00:28:56,041 --> 00:28:58,125 Smith River, so they kicked me out of there. 549 00:28:58,125 --> 00:29:01,792 And-- oh, I just pulled away from her and it hurt her arm or something. 550 00:29:01,792 --> 00:29:03,959 So got kicked out of that school. 551 00:29:03,959 --> 00:29:08,375 - And then I went to Pine Grove School. - ( music playing ) 552 00:29:08,375 --> 00:29:10,083 And when I was there-- when I was there, 553 00:29:10,083 --> 00:29:11,458 I was just always settin' there, 554 00:29:11,458 --> 00:29:14,041 you know, in trouble, in the office, 555 00:29:14,041 --> 00:29:15,834 so I got kicked out of there. 556 00:29:15,834 --> 00:29:17,709 And then I went to Crescent Elk 557 00:29:17,709 --> 00:29:19,375 and I got kicked out of there. 558 00:29:19,375 --> 00:29:22,291 And then I went to the community school by the juvenile hall. 559 00:29:22,291 --> 00:29:26,000 And they didn't really kick me out of there, just put me in juvenile hall. 560 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,959 And then they tried to put me back in high school 'cause I started doing good. 561 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,500 But got kicked out of there 562 00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:37,667 and I went to CYA-- California Youth Authority. 563 00:29:37,667 --> 00:29:42,583 And, um... I was the first one of my friends to go to CYA. 564 00:29:42,583 --> 00:29:44,166 First one to go to prison. 565 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,834 Oh, because they--they-- they know I'm a killer. 566 00:29:53,583 --> 00:29:56,417 ( guffaws ) 567 00:30:05,041 --> 00:30:06,333 No. 568 00:30:06,333 --> 00:30:08,250 ( laughing ) No. 569 00:30:08,250 --> 00:30:10,875 I just had the mentality I was gonna be the worstest and the baddest. 570 00:30:10,875 --> 00:30:13,000 I was gonna have more drugs than everybody. 571 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,041 I was gonna have cars, and so I-- 572 00:30:15,041 --> 00:30:19,542 you know, I just started lowest level of prison ( stutters ) and I-- 573 00:30:19,542 --> 00:30:21,542 When I was 19, I went to San Quentin. 574 00:30:21,542 --> 00:30:24,291 And then I just moved from prison to prison to prison. 575 00:30:24,291 --> 00:30:26,875 Probably my fights got me moved around. 576 00:30:26,875 --> 00:30:29,375 It's any kind of disrespect. 577 00:30:29,375 --> 00:30:30,917 Somebody even looks at you a little bit funny, 578 00:30:30,917 --> 00:30:32,792 you might have to sock 'em up, you know? 579 00:30:32,792 --> 00:30:35,208 Usually a word kicks it off-- punk, bitch, lame. 580 00:30:35,208 --> 00:30:36,458 Somebody talk about your family, 581 00:30:36,458 --> 00:30:37,917 somebody talk about your race. 582 00:30:37,917 --> 00:30:40,417 Oh, a lot of people don't like Native Americans. 583 00:30:40,417 --> 00:30:42,875 Always looked down upon. 584 00:30:42,875 --> 00:30:44,250 But prison don't do nothing 585 00:30:44,250 --> 00:30:45,875 but make you a worser, worser person. 586 00:30:45,875 --> 00:30:47,417 Got me so I didn't even-- I didn't even care 587 00:30:47,417 --> 00:30:48,375 if I hurt somebody. 588 00:30:48,375 --> 00:30:50,125 You know, just, you know, 589 00:30:50,125 --> 00:30:52,250 the longer you're in there, the more you're gonna lose 590 00:30:52,250 --> 00:30:53,291 your feelings about caring. 591 00:30:53,291 --> 00:30:54,500 You're gonna stab somebody. 592 00:30:54,500 --> 00:30:55,875 Stab them, stab them, stab them 593 00:30:55,875 --> 00:30:57,792 five or 10 times, you don't care. 594 00:30:57,792 --> 00:30:59,417 They're worthless! 595 00:30:59,417 --> 00:31:01,750 Who cares about somebody who's got 25-to-life? 596 00:31:01,750 --> 00:31:03,709 I'd walk up to somebody who had life 597 00:31:03,709 --> 00:31:04,750 and sock him in the face. 598 00:31:04,750 --> 00:31:05,917 I ain't care. 599 00:31:05,917 --> 00:31:09,583 And, you know, prison is just as strong 600 00:31:09,583 --> 00:31:11,125 as the world out here. 601 00:31:11,125 --> 00:31:12,959 The only difference is you're in a cage. 602 00:31:12,959 --> 00:31:15,375 Sure, people get stabbed, people get hurt. 603 00:31:15,375 --> 00:31:18,458 You know, it don't matter. I got stabbed 10 times. 604 00:31:18,458 --> 00:31:20,917 It don't matter, but I did everything I could 605 00:31:20,917 --> 00:31:22,750 to stay on top of the food chain. 606 00:31:23,792 --> 00:31:25,125 Yeah, you know, well, 607 00:31:25,125 --> 00:31:26,500 everything I ever did in life, 608 00:31:26,500 --> 00:31:28,750 I tried to do to the best of my ability. 609 00:31:28,750 --> 00:31:30,500 And that's why I don't get this school thing. 610 00:31:30,500 --> 00:31:33,750 I mean, I'm the best. I'm the best on the river. 611 00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:35,417 I got the best smoked fish. 612 00:31:35,417 --> 00:31:37,625 Started a business at being the best. 613 00:31:37,625 --> 00:31:40,291 I got the best N.A. meetings in-- 614 00:31:40,291 --> 00:31:44,500 I'm the baddest of the bad. 615 00:31:47,125 --> 00:31:48,834 The baddest there is. 616 00:31:51,375 --> 00:31:53,500 'Cause, you know, look, if you're gonna go in there 617 00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:55,959 and, you know, whine, scared, crybaby, 618 00:31:55,959 --> 00:31:59,834 people, you know, people are gonna take advantage of you, you know? 619 00:31:59,834 --> 00:32:02,500 Treat you bad, but if you just go in there 620 00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:07,667 and just be a monster-- just be a monster. 621 00:32:07,667 --> 00:32:11,208 I don't even really like, you know, thinking about all that bad stuff. 622 00:32:11,208 --> 00:32:15,542 Just-- just talking about it takes me back to a bad place. 623 00:32:15,542 --> 00:32:17,875 You know, I'm in a happy place now. 624 00:32:17,875 --> 00:32:20,750 You know, I got-- now that I got cleaned up, I got everything. 625 00:32:20,750 --> 00:32:25,125 I got everything! I got a family, too. 626 00:32:25,125 --> 00:32:29,875 I got a son. Shaqoon. 627 00:32:29,875 --> 00:32:33,709 Call him Hog. He wonderful, ain't he? 628 00:32:33,709 --> 00:32:35,500 He's perfect. 629 00:32:37,291 --> 00:32:40,542 ( clapping hands ) Well, where you gonna be at later? 630 00:32:40,542 --> 00:32:43,208 Wanna bring you a fish-- some smoked salmon. 631 00:32:46,333 --> 00:32:48,000 When I look in the mirror? 632 00:32:51,709 --> 00:32:52,875 See a... 633 00:32:56,375 --> 00:32:57,917 really good person... 634 00:32:59,583 --> 00:33:01,208 that's just been down a rough road. 635 00:33:01,208 --> 00:33:03,166 And I don't know whether if it was, you know, 636 00:33:03,166 --> 00:33:05,125 my schooling or how I grew up, 637 00:33:05,125 --> 00:33:07,542 but-- put me on this road, 638 00:33:07,542 --> 00:33:11,166 but I wouldn't change this road for nothin' 639 00:33:11,166 --> 00:33:13,583 'cause it's made me who I am 640 00:33:13,583 --> 00:33:15,458 and got me where I'm at 641 00:33:15,458 --> 00:33:17,750 and I didn't even know I was on a rough road. 642 00:33:17,750 --> 00:33:20,041 You know, just thought life's hard. 643 00:33:20,041 --> 00:33:22,875 - You know what I mean? - ( airhorn blares ) 644 00:33:26,625 --> 00:33:27,750 Taos. 645 00:33:31,250 --> 00:33:33,583 Yeah, he's in our tribe. 646 00:33:33,583 --> 00:33:35,500 Well, part of it is, he's very big 647 00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:38,417 and, you know, he probably acted out in school 648 00:33:38,417 --> 00:33:39,917 and did things he shouldn't have 649 00:33:39,917 --> 00:33:41,667 and nobody said, "Taos, what's wrong? 650 00:33:41,667 --> 00:33:43,333 Why are you doing this?" 651 00:33:43,333 --> 00:33:46,625 You know, I mean, now that he's back with us, 652 00:33:46,625 --> 00:33:50,208 does wrong by me, I sit him down. 653 00:33:50,208 --> 00:33:52,458 I say, "Taos, why are you doing this? 654 00:33:52,458 --> 00:33:57,458 We're gonna have to figure this out because you're gonna get in trouble. 655 00:33:57,458 --> 00:34:03,417 And if you go away, who's gonna... tend to your family's graves? 656 00:34:03,417 --> 00:34:06,333 Who's gonna raise your son?" ( clears throat ) 657 00:34:07,667 --> 00:34:12,709 You-- you cannot deal with children 658 00:34:12,709 --> 00:34:18,125 if you don't have a sense of kindness and respect 659 00:34:19,291 --> 00:34:20,959 and if you don't like 'em. 660 00:34:23,959 --> 00:34:27,375 And if you don't have systems that like them, 661 00:34:27,375 --> 00:34:31,000 support them, and stay with them. 662 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,959 I get mad at you, so I throw you out of school? 663 00:34:34,959 --> 00:34:37,083 What is that? No! 664 00:34:38,834 --> 00:34:43,917 If I get mad at you, then we need to come closer. 665 00:34:43,917 --> 00:34:45,875 You don't need to be further. 666 00:34:45,875 --> 00:34:48,709 You did something wrong, then you need to be closer. 667 00:34:48,709 --> 00:34:50,417 You don't need to be further. 668 00:34:50,417 --> 00:34:54,000 If I think I have something to offer, then we need to come close. 669 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,125 We don't need to be further. 670 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,834 - School-to-prison pipeline, um... - ( music playing ) 671 00:35:02,834 --> 00:35:04,959 ...well, our kids aren't finishing school, 672 00:35:04,959 --> 00:35:07,917 they can't get jobs, they try to make do, they go to prison. 673 00:35:07,917 --> 00:35:10,250 That's what it is. ( clears throat ) 674 00:35:10,250 --> 00:35:12,041 Part of it is discipline. 675 00:35:12,041 --> 00:35:14,542 We don't have very good relationships with those people. 676 00:35:16,834 --> 00:35:17,667 Non-Indians. 677 00:35:18,834 --> 00:35:19,667 Educators. 678 00:35:21,125 --> 00:35:23,667 The white people. 679 00:35:23,667 --> 00:35:28,333 Um, you know, they see our tribal kids as having behavioral problems 680 00:35:28,333 --> 00:35:31,458 and then they get... suspended from school 681 00:35:31,458 --> 00:35:33,125 and then they get arrested from school. 682 00:35:33,125 --> 00:35:34,959 We had an 8-year-old in Klamath 683 00:35:34,959 --> 00:35:37,083 they were about to put cuffs on. 684 00:35:37,083 --> 00:35:39,208 I mean, you cannot cuff an 8-year-old. 685 00:35:39,208 --> 00:35:42,250 You just can't, it's stupid. 686 00:35:42,250 --> 00:35:44,458 If you have children who are suffering 687 00:35:44,458 --> 00:35:47,208 to the extent that they act out in school 688 00:35:47,208 --> 00:35:50,417 and do things that they should not do, 689 00:35:50,417 --> 00:35:52,250 which could include hitting a teacher, 690 00:35:52,250 --> 00:35:55,000 hitting another child, having some kind of a fit. 691 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,041 And then they get arrested at school 692 00:35:58,041 --> 00:36:01,041 ( stutters ) or they get suspended or they get expelled 693 00:36:01,041 --> 00:36:02,750 from school and they get mad at somebody 694 00:36:02,750 --> 00:36:04,333 and they hit a school resource officer. 695 00:36:04,333 --> 00:36:06,542 And then they get handcuffed, then they go to jail 696 00:36:06,542 --> 00:36:08,333 or juvenile hall or probation. 697 00:36:08,333 --> 00:36:10,417 And it just gets going and it keeps on going from there. 698 00:36:10,417 --> 00:36:12,750 And nobody says, "Why is this kid doing this?" You know? 699 00:36:12,750 --> 00:36:15,458 "What's wrong?" Kids need grownups. 700 00:36:15,458 --> 00:36:17,333 It's the whole point of having kids and grownups. 701 00:36:17,333 --> 00:36:19,667 If you don't have a couple of good grownups at your side 702 00:36:19,667 --> 00:36:21,250 or ones who could work the system, 703 00:36:21,250 --> 00:36:22,667 you can't-you can't make-- 704 00:36:22,667 --> 00:36:24,709 you could go down, you can't make it, 705 00:36:24,709 --> 00:36:27,583 you just can't, and a lot of them will go, "But for..." 706 00:36:27,583 --> 00:36:30,083 and, "I would be in a prison," and a lot of that 707 00:36:30,083 --> 00:36:31,583 has to do with somebody, 708 00:36:31,583 --> 00:36:34,667 a teacher, somebody, who just reached out and said, 709 00:36:34,667 --> 00:36:36,917 "You know, you can do this. It's gonna be okay. 710 00:36:36,917 --> 00:36:40,333 You're gonna be okay, but you gotta stop acting like this. 711 00:36:40,333 --> 00:36:42,083 You can't-- you can't run from the cops. 712 00:36:42,083 --> 00:36:44,875 If you run from the cops, the cops will chase you." 713 00:36:44,875 --> 00:36:45,917 Man! 714 00:36:47,250 --> 00:36:50,041 I mean, you know. ( scoffs ) 715 00:36:51,583 --> 00:36:54,375 Did you see that... 716 00:36:54,375 --> 00:36:58,291 video of that 14-year-old girl in Texas? 717 00:36:58,291 --> 00:36:59,750 ( distant chatter ) 718 00:36:59,750 --> 00:37:01,625 Man: Y'all keep standing there running your mouths, 719 00:37:01,625 --> 00:37:02,875 you're gonna go too. 720 00:37:02,875 --> 00:37:04,458 Get out of here. I already told you. 721 00:37:04,458 --> 00:37:05,959 ( overlapping yelling ) 722 00:37:07,750 --> 00:37:10,834 - Hey! Hey! Hey! - ( overlapping yelling ) 723 00:37:14,375 --> 00:37:16,000 ( shouting continues ) 724 00:37:20,166 --> 00:37:22,542 - Your ass on the ground like I said! - Call my mama! 725 00:37:22,542 --> 00:37:25,208 Call my mama, oh, my God! 726 00:37:25,208 --> 00:37:28,458 Get down. On your face! 727 00:37:28,458 --> 00:37:31,333 ( yelling ) Get off of me! 728 00:37:33,959 --> 00:37:35,875 Girl: What is he doing? What is he--? 729 00:37:35,875 --> 00:37:37,750 What the fuck is he doing? 730 00:37:37,750 --> 00:37:39,125 ( girl crying ) 731 00:37:39,125 --> 00:37:43,208 - Man #2: Let's go. - Adrian, you good, bro? 732 00:37:43,208 --> 00:37:44,667 Adrian? 733 00:37:44,667 --> 00:37:46,959 I'm gonna tell you one more time. 734 00:37:46,959 --> 00:37:49,583 Get your ass out of here! 735 00:37:49,583 --> 00:37:52,208 Y'all get across the street! 736 00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:56,709 ( music playing ) 737 00:37:56,709 --> 00:37:58,667 She's screaming for her mommy. 738 00:37:58,667 --> 00:38:00,709 "Mama, Mama, I want my mama." 739 00:38:00,709 --> 00:38:02,041 She's in a bathing suit. 740 00:38:02,041 --> 00:38:03,583 What kind of a threat is that? 741 00:38:03,583 --> 00:38:06,125 I mean, who does that to a 14-year-old? 742 00:38:06,125 --> 00:38:09,583 - I think that-- I think we-- judges... - ( woman murmurs ) 743 00:38:09,583 --> 00:38:11,875 ...fell asleep at the job. 744 00:38:11,875 --> 00:38:13,667 I mean, I think-- I think the problem is that 745 00:38:13,667 --> 00:38:16,542 nobody learned that justice is what the law is about. 746 00:38:16,542 --> 00:38:18,041 I mean, yes, you need rules. 747 00:38:18,041 --> 00:38:21,333 Every society needs rules, of course, you know, 748 00:38:21,333 --> 00:38:25,542 but the whole point of having a law or having a process 749 00:38:25,542 --> 00:38:29,291 or having a court is to ensure fairness 750 00:38:29,291 --> 00:38:32,583 and right behavior and justice. 751 00:38:32,583 --> 00:38:35,792 It's not about that anymore. 752 00:38:35,792 --> 00:38:39,000 Um, it's about money 753 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,875 and who has the power, too. 754 00:38:42,875 --> 00:38:45,166 I think the country's broken. 755 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,458 Tony Eady: I'm a Student Concern Specialist 756 00:39:00,458 --> 00:39:02,792 here at North Charleston High School, 757 00:39:02,792 --> 00:39:04,709 Charleston, South Carolina. 758 00:39:04,709 --> 00:39:08,834 And I used to work in a-- in a maximum security penitentiary. 759 00:39:08,834 --> 00:39:11,208 And I get a group of men in there and I say, 760 00:39:11,208 --> 00:39:12,792 "You know, this is just a rehearsal. 761 00:39:12,792 --> 00:39:15,125 This is"-- I say, "When you always 762 00:39:15,125 --> 00:39:17,583 coming to ISS, that means you can't deal 763 00:39:17,583 --> 00:39:19,750 with the public, with society here at school." 764 00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:21,792 I say, "They always send you here." 765 00:39:21,792 --> 00:39:23,542 I say, "That's a rehearsal." 766 00:39:23,542 --> 00:39:26,375 You know, I say if you can't deal with authority figures 767 00:39:26,375 --> 00:39:28,250 and people telling you what to do, 768 00:39:28,250 --> 00:39:31,250 when you get out in society, they're gonna send you to jail. 769 00:39:31,250 --> 00:39:33,208 I call it a school jail. "I'm not in no school jail." 770 00:39:33,208 --> 00:39:35,166 Yes, you are. You're incarcerated for this hour. 771 00:39:35,166 --> 00:39:36,458 You can't leave. 772 00:39:36,458 --> 00:39:38,041 And I'm a very strong figure 773 00:39:38,041 --> 00:39:40,291 in my house because of what I see going on here. 774 00:39:40,291 --> 00:39:43,583 My son, 15 years old, growing up in a house-- me and my wife, 775 00:39:43,583 --> 00:39:46,709 both educators, and I know I have to keep 776 00:39:46,709 --> 00:39:49,250 a foot or a thumb on his neck. 777 00:39:49,250 --> 00:39:52,458 'Cause he tends to kind of drift, you know. 778 00:39:52,458 --> 00:39:55,625 I say something to him. "What? What you want?" 779 00:39:57,500 --> 00:39:59,208 "Who you talking at?" 780 00:39:59,208 --> 00:40:03,125 And I know if I don't say that every single time, 781 00:40:03,125 --> 00:40:05,834 it's gonna go way left till where 782 00:40:05,834 --> 00:40:07,792 until he's telling me what to do. 783 00:40:07,792 --> 00:40:09,417 And what people don't understand 784 00:40:09,417 --> 00:40:11,291 who doesn't work in this environment, 785 00:40:11,291 --> 00:40:15,458 most teenagers are very, very defiant. 786 00:40:15,458 --> 00:40:16,959 Very, very, very defiant. 787 00:40:16,959 --> 00:40:18,792 And then people go, you know, society says 788 00:40:18,792 --> 00:40:20,834 you can't touch them, you can't grab them. 789 00:40:20,834 --> 00:40:23,583 The kids know that, so it just gets more power added to them. 790 00:40:23,583 --> 00:40:25,750 And then they don't want to have the police officer in the school. 791 00:40:25,750 --> 00:40:28,083 I need the police officer. I need the police officer for me. 792 00:40:28,083 --> 00:40:29,542 Police officer our last line of defense. 793 00:40:29,542 --> 00:40:31,417 I need the police officer. 794 00:40:31,417 --> 00:40:33,333 I'm not saying I think the police officer, 795 00:40:33,333 --> 00:40:34,750 you know, grab kids and snatch kids 796 00:40:34,750 --> 00:40:36,583 and drag them across the floor, 797 00:40:36,583 --> 00:40:38,834 but I need somebody to show 798 00:40:38,834 --> 00:40:42,291 these kids there is authority in this school. 799 00:40:42,291 --> 00:40:44,417 And what I heard a police officer, 800 00:40:44,417 --> 00:40:47,709 one of my good friends, say, you know, most people-- 801 00:40:47,709 --> 00:40:51,625 most people get incarcerated... 802 00:40:51,625 --> 00:40:53,667 'cause of their mouth. 803 00:40:53,667 --> 00:40:55,125 What they say 804 00:40:55,125 --> 00:40:57,000 when they're approached by authority figures. 805 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,667 "Get out the car." "What you mean I got to get out the car?" 806 00:40:59,667 --> 00:41:01,083 Then they do get out the car. 807 00:41:01,083 --> 00:41:03,166 "What's up, man? Why you stopping me?" 808 00:41:03,166 --> 00:41:06,750 And then they call for backup and more coming, so I don't know. 809 00:41:06,750 --> 00:41:11,250 ( laughing ) But sometimes I ask God why am I still here? 810 00:41:11,250 --> 00:41:13,834 You know, I-- it must be because I'm needed. 811 00:41:13,834 --> 00:41:15,667 But a constant fight every day trying to get 812 00:41:15,667 --> 00:41:16,875 these kids to do the right thing. 813 00:41:16,875 --> 00:41:20,250 And it wears on me, the disrespect. 814 00:41:20,250 --> 00:41:24,000 And I have stood between these kids and Mr. Grimm, 815 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,375 the principal, when he's talked to them. 816 00:41:26,375 --> 00:41:31,291 You know, and I can see where it's going the wrong way and I have to intercept. 817 00:41:31,291 --> 00:41:33,667 ( stutters ) I'll tell you. 818 00:41:33,667 --> 00:41:36,875 Kid got put out of class for a cell phone. 819 00:41:36,875 --> 00:41:38,500 Oh, that's another thing. 820 00:41:40,208 --> 00:41:45,750 These kids rather go to jail than give up their cell phone. 821 00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:48,959 And I'm standing out in the hall with the kid. 822 00:41:48,959 --> 00:41:52,542 Mr. Grimm walks up because he hears the call. "What's the problem?" 823 00:41:52,542 --> 00:41:58,083 I said, "Well, Mr. Grimm, uh, he refused to give his cell phone up, 824 00:41:58,083 --> 00:41:59,583 but I have it now." 825 00:41:59,583 --> 00:42:02,291 And the kid, he say, "Yeah, you may have it now, 826 00:42:02,291 --> 00:42:04,250 but I'm getting my phone back!" 827 00:42:04,250 --> 00:42:07,917 Mr. Grimm say, "Excuse me?" 828 00:42:07,917 --> 00:42:10,208 Kid say, "You heard what I said." 829 00:42:10,208 --> 00:42:11,875 And now, I have to intercept 830 00:42:11,875 --> 00:42:13,917 'cause now you challenging the authority figure. 831 00:42:13,917 --> 00:42:15,208 The bigger top authority figure. 832 00:42:15,208 --> 00:42:16,625 Well, I know where it's going, 833 00:42:16,625 --> 00:42:17,917 'cause Mr. Grimm is not gonna let him 834 00:42:17,917 --> 00:42:19,083 talk to him like that. 835 00:42:19,083 --> 00:42:20,250 And Mr. Grimm will probably 836 00:42:20,250 --> 00:42:21,250 respond with something like, 837 00:42:21,250 --> 00:42:22,875 "Oh, well, I'm gonna-- 838 00:42:22,875 --> 00:42:24,166 I'm gonna get your phone 839 00:42:24,166 --> 00:42:25,500 and I'm gonna keep your phone." 840 00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:27,083 And then the kid will probably go, "No!" 841 00:42:27,083 --> 00:42:28,792 Probably reach for the phone, step for the phone. 842 00:42:28,792 --> 00:42:29,834 ( grunts ) Try to get it. 843 00:42:31,625 --> 00:42:33,125 And it's going from you're just giving up 844 00:42:33,125 --> 00:42:36,625 your phone, getting it back next period. 845 00:42:36,625 --> 00:42:40,959 Now you're not getting your phone, getting arrested, 846 00:42:40,959 --> 00:42:44,458 being suspended, maybe up for expulsion... 847 00:42:45,959 --> 00:42:47,834 all because of your mouth. 848 00:42:54,875 --> 00:42:57,166 Man: Hands behind your back. Give me your hands. 849 00:42:57,166 --> 00:42:58,917 Amanda Ripley: Niya Kenny. 850 00:43:00,959 --> 00:43:04,125 She's the oldest girl in the class. 851 00:43:04,125 --> 00:43:06,166 So she's sitting there in her Algebra I class 852 00:43:06,166 --> 00:43:09,417 that she failed as a freshman-- need to pass to graduate. 853 00:43:09,417 --> 00:43:11,667 She's doing well in that class, actually. 854 00:43:11,667 --> 00:43:14,000 So 18-year-old African-American girl, 855 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,333 she got an "A" average. 856 00:43:16,333 --> 00:43:18,500 And she sees the teacher, Mr. Long, 857 00:43:18,500 --> 00:43:21,875 who's a veteran math teacher at the school-- white man-- 858 00:43:21,875 --> 00:43:25,875 whispers something to one of the other kids in the class-- a girl. 859 00:43:25,875 --> 00:43:28,000 Who doesn't-- she doesn't-- Niya doesn't know her name. 860 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,417 She doesn't talk much. She's new to the class, this girl. 861 00:43:30,417 --> 00:43:33,834 Shakara, as it turns out. 862 00:43:33,834 --> 00:43:36,333 And Niya sees Mr. Long go back to his desk 863 00:43:36,333 --> 00:43:37,750 and pick up the phone and call someone 864 00:43:37,750 --> 00:43:40,291 to escort someone out of the classroom. 865 00:43:40,291 --> 00:43:43,166 And so, she turns to Shakara and says, "You? 866 00:43:43,166 --> 00:43:44,667 ( whispers ) Is that for you?" 867 00:43:44,667 --> 00:43:47,709 Like, she mouths and Shakara nods. 868 00:43:47,709 --> 00:43:49,542 And Niya thinks, "Well, that's strange." 869 00:43:49,542 --> 00:43:51,250 Because she didn't-- I guess-- apparently, 870 00:43:51,250 --> 00:43:52,542 Shakara had taken out her phone. 871 00:43:52,542 --> 00:43:53,542 Sometimes at that school, 872 00:43:53,542 --> 00:43:54,542 if you take out your phone, 873 00:43:54,542 --> 00:43:55,583 they take it for the day. 874 00:43:55,583 --> 00:43:56,709 It's pretty routine policy. 875 00:43:56,709 --> 00:43:57,834 So for whatever reason 876 00:43:57,834 --> 00:43:59,208 that we still don't know, 877 00:43:59,208 --> 00:44:01,250 Shakara got in trouble with this teacher 878 00:44:01,250 --> 00:44:04,542 and he called the assistant principal, Mr. Webb, 879 00:44:04,542 --> 00:44:07,000 who came, and according to Niya he said, 880 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,375 "Come with me," or something to that effect, and Shakara declined to come. 881 00:44:11,375 --> 00:44:13,083 And then, according to Niya, 882 00:44:13,083 --> 00:44:14,709 he said something to the effect of 883 00:44:14,709 --> 00:44:16,333 "I ain't got time to play with y'all today," 884 00:44:16,333 --> 00:44:18,542 and he turned around and he left. 885 00:44:18,542 --> 00:44:20,250 Black man. 886 00:44:20,250 --> 00:44:23,166 And he came back with Deputy Fields, who's sort of large, 887 00:44:23,166 --> 00:44:28,083 hulking white police officer who's also a football coach at the school. 888 00:44:28,083 --> 00:44:29,542 And Niya said when she saw him, 889 00:44:29,542 --> 00:44:31,208 she turned to the boy sitting next to her 890 00:44:31,208 --> 00:44:32,834 and said, "Take out your phone," and she took out 891 00:44:32,834 --> 00:44:34,166 her phone too because she had a feeling. 892 00:44:34,166 --> 00:44:35,792 She heard stories about this guy. 893 00:44:35,792 --> 00:44:39,000 She had a feeling he might do something... 894 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,583 worthy of being videotaped. 895 00:44:41,583 --> 00:44:43,959 ( clears throat ) And you saw the video. 896 00:44:43,959 --> 00:44:46,417 He told Shakara to come with him. 897 00:44:46,417 --> 00:44:49,250 She wouldn't come and so he tried to extract her 898 00:44:49,250 --> 00:44:52,083 from the chair rather violently. 899 00:44:52,083 --> 00:44:54,917 And then eventually, he did extract her from the chair. 900 00:44:54,917 --> 00:44:57,250 And Niya is videotaping this, 901 00:44:57,250 --> 00:45:01,083 and she's becoming more and more distraught. 902 00:45:01,083 --> 00:45:03,792 "Oh, well, they was wrestling, 903 00:45:03,792 --> 00:45:08,375 um, on the floor for, like, a minute. 904 00:45:08,375 --> 00:45:11,750 That's what I thought, too. She must be strong. 905 00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:15,000 'Cause, you know, we talking about a 9th-grader 906 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,959 and he's a 300-pound bodybuilder. 907 00:45:18,959 --> 00:45:24,291 But I was, like, you know, I was like, 'Is-- is nobody gonna help her? 908 00:45:24,291 --> 00:45:27,625 Somebody record this! Put it on Snapchat!' 909 00:45:27,625 --> 00:45:29,291 And then I'm asking Mr. Webb and Mr. Long, 910 00:45:29,291 --> 00:45:30,875 I'm like, 'Look-- what-- it-- 911 00:45:30,875 --> 00:45:32,875 And then I turned to Mr. Long and I was just like, 912 00:45:32,875 --> 00:45:34,959 'Look, you did this. Like, what are you going to do?' 913 00:45:34,959 --> 00:45:36,959 I said, 'You didn't even have to call the administrator.' 914 00:45:36,959 --> 00:45:41,250 And I was just like"-- ( deep breath ) 915 00:45:41,250 --> 00:45:44,792 And then she said, "What the fuck?" 916 00:45:46,792 --> 00:45:50,000 What the fuck? And the assistant principal's like, "Niya, Niya." 917 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,500 He's trying to calm her down. She won't be calmed down. 918 00:45:52,500 --> 00:45:54,834 And then, we don't know exactly what happened next, 919 00:45:54,834 --> 00:45:57,166 but according to Niya, Deputy Fields turned to her 920 00:45:57,166 --> 00:46:01,000 and said, "You got so much to say? 921 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,333 'Cause you're coming next." 922 00:46:02,333 --> 00:46:03,917 And so then he comes back-- 923 00:46:03,917 --> 00:46:05,125 he takes Shakara out of the room 924 00:46:05,125 --> 00:46:06,875 and he comes back and now Niya 925 00:46:06,875 --> 00:46:08,208 has become completely passive 926 00:46:08,208 --> 00:46:10,041 because she knows he's not joking. 927 00:46:10,041 --> 00:46:12,458 And she stands up and she puts her hands 928 00:46:12,458 --> 00:46:15,542 behind her back and he handcuffs her. 929 00:46:15,542 --> 00:46:19,667 And he takes her to the room where Shakara is, 930 00:46:19,667 --> 00:46:24,375 and according to Niya, Shakara is leaning forward, 931 00:46:24,375 --> 00:46:27,208 she's still handcuffed, and her braids 932 00:46:27,208 --> 00:46:28,834 are falling in her face. 933 00:46:28,834 --> 00:46:33,166 And then, according to Niya, Deputy Fields flips the braids 934 00:46:33,166 --> 00:46:36,166 out of Shakara's face and he says, 935 00:46:36,166 --> 00:46:38,208 "Did you take your meds today?" 936 00:46:38,208 --> 00:46:41,750 ( audience murmurs ) 937 00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:44,875 And she says... it's the first thing 938 00:46:44,875 --> 00:46:48,750 she says-- she finally speaks. 939 00:46:48,750 --> 00:46:52,208 She says, "Yes, did you?" 940 00:46:52,208 --> 00:46:53,667 ( audience laughs ) 941 00:46:53,667 --> 00:46:55,166 Which I thought was great. 942 00:46:55,166 --> 00:46:56,875 It's great, just great teenage response. 943 00:46:56,875 --> 00:47:00,917 Perfect. So, um, Shakara is apparently released 944 00:47:00,917 --> 00:47:02,375 to the care of a guardian. 945 00:47:02,375 --> 00:47:05,542 She's a foster child. Not sure which guardian. 946 00:47:05,542 --> 00:47:09,542 But Niya Kenny is 18, so she's considered an adult 947 00:47:09,542 --> 00:47:14,375 and they take her to a detention facility-- an adult jail. 948 00:47:14,375 --> 00:47:19,583 I'm just, like, you know, I'm embarrassing my mom. 949 00:47:19,583 --> 00:47:22,291 She's gonna be mad. She's gonna kill me. 950 00:47:22,291 --> 00:47:24,542 That's the only person I would think about-- Mom, Mom, Mom. 951 00:47:24,542 --> 00:47:27,542 I was like, "Oh, God, I'm gonna get out of this jail. 952 00:47:27,542 --> 00:47:30,250 She gonna beat me up right in the yard." 953 00:47:32,333 --> 00:47:34,583 Oh, the people in the jail, they was, um... 954 00:47:34,583 --> 00:47:36,333 they was like normal people to me. 955 00:47:36,333 --> 00:47:37,750 They was nice. 956 00:47:37,750 --> 00:47:41,500 But, um, the video came on the news, 957 00:47:41,500 --> 00:47:45,917 and everybody-- everybody in the jail was like, "What?" 958 00:47:45,917 --> 00:47:48,583 Everybody. Everybody was like, "What? 959 00:47:48,583 --> 00:47:50,458 He threw that little girl like that? 960 00:47:50,458 --> 00:47:53,917 What? He threw that little girl like that and you was in there? 961 00:47:53,917 --> 00:47:56,417 Oh, girl, you going home. You going home." 962 00:47:56,417 --> 00:47:58,583 Soon as I saw that video, I was like-- ( gasps ) 963 00:47:58,583 --> 00:48:00,333 "I know my mom saw it. I know she saw it." 964 00:48:00,333 --> 00:48:02,000 Soon as I saw that video, I was like, "Whew, I'm not 965 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,458 in trouble anymore, I'm not in trouble." 966 00:48:04,458 --> 00:48:07,750 And so I call my mom and my mom was like, "Niya, you don't even know. 967 00:48:07,750 --> 00:48:11,375 The news is out here. They want to interview you. 968 00:48:11,375 --> 00:48:12,583 'Good Morning America' 969 00:48:12,583 --> 00:48:15,458 is coming to the house tonight." 970 00:48:15,458 --> 00:48:18,125 But I don't know what it is, you know, 971 00:48:18,125 --> 00:48:23,417 I guess I just snap when I see people being mistreated, I guess. 972 00:48:23,417 --> 00:48:25,375 I mean, I'm talking about elementary school. 973 00:48:25,375 --> 00:48:27,500 I remember one time in 3rd grade, 974 00:48:27,500 --> 00:48:30,041 a friend of mine was being bad in class 975 00:48:30,041 --> 00:48:32,458 and a teacher-- ( whispers ) she was a white lady-- 976 00:48:32,458 --> 00:48:33,875 because I knew about racism 977 00:48:33,875 --> 00:48:35,291 because my dad had always taught his kids, 978 00:48:35,291 --> 00:48:36,625 like, ever since we were in kindergarten 979 00:48:36,625 --> 00:48:39,750 about racism-- like, know your history. 980 00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:45,166 And she picked up this boy by his cheek out the chair. 981 00:48:45,166 --> 00:48:47,875 And I lost it. I lost it-- I lost it in the classroom. 982 00:48:47,875 --> 00:48:50,667 I was like, "You are not his mom! You can't touch him like that! 983 00:48:50,667 --> 00:48:52,667 That is not your job. Your job is to teach us. 984 00:48:52,667 --> 00:48:56,750 You do not pick up a student by his cheek out the chair!" 985 00:48:56,750 --> 00:49:00,000 Yeah, I was really mad. I was really mad. 986 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,333 And, you know, she wrote me up for being disrespectful, 987 00:49:03,333 --> 00:49:07,291 for being belligerent, and that was my first after-school detention. 988 00:49:07,291 --> 00:49:11,166 But I knew when the high school called my mom, 989 00:49:11,166 --> 00:49:14,625 that they was gonna be like, "Niya got in something 990 00:49:14,625 --> 00:49:16,166 that didn't involve her." 991 00:49:16,166 --> 00:49:17,667 That's exactly what they did. 992 00:49:17,667 --> 00:49:20,667 And I knew that my mom-- I knew her mindset would be, 993 00:49:20,667 --> 00:49:23,834 "Oh, Niya, why didn't you be quiet?" 994 00:49:23,834 --> 00:49:27,166 'Cause that's the response I got in 3rd grade. 995 00:49:27,166 --> 00:49:29,166 "Mind your business. 996 00:49:29,166 --> 00:49:32,291 This doesn't have nothing to do with you." 997 00:49:32,291 --> 00:49:38,375 But he just threw a whole girl... across the classroom. 998 00:49:38,375 --> 00:49:41,083 How could you mind your business? 999 00:49:41,083 --> 00:49:44,709 That's something you need to make your business. 1000 00:49:46,208 --> 00:49:47,917 ( music playing ) 1001 00:50:00,542 --> 00:50:03,375 But it's, I think, 1002 00:50:03,375 --> 00:50:06,792 how you raise your kids. 1003 00:50:06,792 --> 00:50:10,417 What they see around the family. 1004 00:50:10,417 --> 00:50:15,166 And I never heard too much about drugs at that time. 1005 00:50:15,166 --> 00:50:20,917 It was all about wearing baggy pants and you start being in gangs. 1006 00:50:20,917 --> 00:50:24,250 That's what I was worried. 1007 00:50:24,250 --> 00:50:27,750 Oh, I don't see nothing in those pants. 1008 00:50:27,750 --> 00:50:31,166 All I see is butts all the time. 1009 00:50:31,166 --> 00:50:34,125 - You could see the underwear! - ( chuckles ) 1010 00:50:34,125 --> 00:50:37,417 I don't have the slighty idea 1011 00:50:37,417 --> 00:50:41,583 why the kids do it. 1012 00:50:41,583 --> 00:50:44,208 You know, I don't think my kids never did that. 1013 00:50:44,208 --> 00:50:45,625 And I don't think I would let it-- 1014 00:50:45,625 --> 00:50:47,542 I don't think I would let them. 1015 00:50:47,542 --> 00:50:50,000 No, I would rip every single pant. 1016 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,083 Knowing myself, I would do it. 1017 00:50:52,083 --> 00:50:55,000 But one of the parents told me that my kids 1018 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,250 were coming to their home and change to baggy pants. 1019 00:50:58,250 --> 00:51:00,667 - Mmm. - And I became very good friends 1020 00:51:00,667 --> 00:51:04,500 with those parents and we all used to communicate. 1021 00:51:04,500 --> 00:51:05,875 I think that's the key. 1022 00:51:05,875 --> 00:51:07,667 One of the mothers are the one 1023 00:51:07,667 --> 00:51:11,250 who told me that my kids were wearing baggy pants. 1024 00:51:11,250 --> 00:51:13,458 And that's when I went to school. 1025 00:51:13,458 --> 00:51:18,917 I say-- I say, "What are you doing to those pants?" 1026 00:51:18,917 --> 00:51:23,375 Or I say, "How are you doing to those pants?" 1027 00:51:23,375 --> 00:51:26,583 They say, "Oh, Mom, they are my friends. 1028 00:51:26,583 --> 00:51:29,500 Come on, don't make me embarrassed here at school." 1029 00:51:29,500 --> 00:51:30,834 I say, "Okay. 1030 00:51:30,834 --> 00:51:32,625 We're gonna talk when we get home." 1031 00:51:32,625 --> 00:51:37,375 We talking, I say, "Okay. I'm gonna meet you halfway. 1032 00:51:37,375 --> 00:51:41,291 - Not that baggy, a little bit loose." - ( laughs ) 1033 00:51:41,291 --> 00:51:45,166 "But I don't want you to be going to nobody's house and change." 1034 00:51:45,166 --> 00:51:49,834 - Mm-mm. - And I think I was a very strict mother. 1035 00:51:49,834 --> 00:51:54,625 Anything involving my kids, I was very involved. 1036 00:51:54,625 --> 00:51:57,333 I used to even go 1037 00:51:57,333 --> 00:52:02,583 at nighttime and smell them. 1038 00:52:02,583 --> 00:52:05,625 Yes, oh, yes, yes, 1039 00:52:05,625 --> 00:52:09,250 to see if they were not drinking or smoking. 1040 00:52:09,250 --> 00:52:11,375 Oh, yes, I did so many things 1041 00:52:11,375 --> 00:52:12,709 to keep my kids out of trouble, 1042 00:52:12,709 --> 00:52:14,917 and thanks to the Lord, I think I did a good job. 1043 00:52:14,917 --> 00:52:18,458 - Mmm. - But I had to move from Vallejo. 1044 00:52:18,458 --> 00:52:20,875 I said I had to move from here. 1045 00:52:20,875 --> 00:52:22,709 I didn't want none of my kids to go to jail. 1046 00:52:22,709 --> 00:52:25,291 You see so many things on the news. 1047 00:52:25,291 --> 00:52:26,917 I didn't want that for my kids. 1048 00:52:26,917 --> 00:52:32,417 Not for my family. Who wants that? Nobody. 1049 00:52:32,417 --> 00:52:35,667 - ♪ Oh, I want my mama ♪ - ( music playing ) 1050 00:52:41,667 --> 00:52:45,875 ♪ Gotta keep climbin', yeah ♪ 1051 00:52:47,875 --> 00:52:51,917 - ( cell door shuts ) - ♪ Gotta keep praying... ♪ 1052 00:52:55,208 --> 00:53:00,041 Well, um... this experience... 1053 00:53:01,792 --> 00:53:05,333 of being, uh, in college here, 1054 00:53:05,333 --> 00:53:10,750 uh, at the Maryland Correctional Institute 1055 00:53:10,750 --> 00:53:15,917 has showed me that I missed out on a lot. 1056 00:53:15,917 --> 00:53:19,250 A lot of information 1057 00:53:19,250 --> 00:53:23,583 that could've helped me make better decisions. 1058 00:53:23,583 --> 00:53:28,041 I tended to gravitate towards my environment 1059 00:53:28,041 --> 00:53:30,750 versus reaching out past the environment. 1060 00:53:30,750 --> 00:53:35,959 And I started believing that that was it and that was all. 1061 00:53:35,959 --> 00:53:41,583 Um, and that the only thing required of me 1062 00:53:41,583 --> 00:53:45,000 was for me, which was basically 1063 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,625 to feed myself and the baby I was carrying 1064 00:53:48,625 --> 00:53:52,125 and that everything was me. 1065 00:53:52,125 --> 00:53:55,291 It was never, like, the next door neighbor 1066 00:53:55,291 --> 00:53:57,750 could've been going through the same thing. 1067 00:53:57,750 --> 00:54:02,125 I didn't have enough information to know 1068 00:54:02,125 --> 00:54:07,291 that we are all really connected somehow 1069 00:54:07,291 --> 00:54:10,834 to every living, breathing thing, 1070 00:54:10,834 --> 00:54:13,625 we're all really connected. 1071 00:54:13,625 --> 00:54:15,917 I've learned how the government work. 1072 00:54:15,917 --> 00:54:19,417 Uh, I didn't get that, you know, like, 1073 00:54:19,417 --> 00:54:23,500 what was the governor for or what was the mayor for. 1074 00:54:23,500 --> 00:54:26,166 Uh, I don't get it. I don't understand. 1075 00:54:26,166 --> 00:54:28,875 I understand that they are important people, 1076 00:54:28,875 --> 00:54:31,166 but to what degree of importance? 1077 00:54:31,166 --> 00:54:33,542 What are they actually there for? 1078 00:54:33,542 --> 00:54:39,208 And to get that now, as a grown woman? Whoa! 1079 00:54:39,208 --> 00:54:42,583 And finding out what this world is really all about, 1080 00:54:42,583 --> 00:54:45,125 how it revolves, 1081 00:54:45,125 --> 00:54:49,041 and what is expected of me as a citizen. 1082 00:54:52,166 --> 00:54:54,583 Basically, to, um... 1083 00:54:54,583 --> 00:54:56,625 ( sucks teeth ) 1084 00:54:56,625 --> 00:55:00,125 pave the way for those coming behind us. 1085 00:55:00,125 --> 00:55:04,458 Um, to make better living arrangements 1086 00:55:04,458 --> 00:55:08,166 for everybody as a whole. 1087 00:55:08,166 --> 00:55:10,667 'Cause in the end, it's about living 1088 00:55:10,667 --> 00:55:13,625 and it's about living properly 1089 00:55:13,625 --> 00:55:17,875 and it's about rearing your children properly, 1090 00:55:17,875 --> 00:55:21,542 so that they can be productive 1091 00:55:21,542 --> 00:55:25,542 and not be barbaric, basically. 1092 00:55:26,625 --> 00:55:30,500 Um, I had six children; 1093 00:55:30,500 --> 00:55:34,375 now I have five. 1094 00:55:34,375 --> 00:55:37,917 One of them died since I've been here. 1095 00:55:37,917 --> 00:55:42,083 The oldest being 34, the youngest being 21. 1096 00:55:42,083 --> 00:55:47,625 I had my youngest child when I was in a Baltimore detention center. 1097 00:55:47,625 --> 00:55:51,959 I been here 23 years. 1098 00:55:51,959 --> 00:55:57,333 Well, um... my boyfriend-- 1099 00:55:57,333 --> 00:56:01,417 my former boyfriend, 'cause we wasn't together at the time-- 1100 00:56:01,417 --> 00:56:04,083 shot and killed a guy who tried to rape me. 1101 00:56:06,625 --> 00:56:08,417 Well, they didn't consider it accomplice. 1102 00:56:08,417 --> 00:56:12,083 I got the same charge as he did-- first-degree murder. 1103 00:56:17,250 --> 00:56:20,625 I think it's fair. 1104 00:56:20,625 --> 00:56:25,125 You talking about somebody's life, um-- ( coughs ) 1105 00:56:33,500 --> 00:56:35,166 Whether-- ( clears throat ) 1106 00:56:40,750 --> 00:56:44,625 Whether it's in-- in your control or not, 1107 00:56:44,625 --> 00:56:46,542 somebody's life has been taken, 1108 00:56:46,542 --> 00:56:49,083 so I do think it's fair. 1109 00:56:51,583 --> 00:56:55,792 Uh, but I think that if I had had a better education, 1110 00:56:55,792 --> 00:56:57,750 I would've been more upright, so to speak. 1111 00:56:57,750 --> 00:57:03,625 Um, you know, because without that education, I always felt less than. 1112 00:57:03,625 --> 00:57:06,291 And I think if I had had that education, 1113 00:57:06,291 --> 00:57:11,500 I would've known that, um... I am somebody. 1114 00:57:11,500 --> 00:57:13,458 I am a good person. 1115 00:57:13,458 --> 00:57:16,959 Um, but now I have a purpose now that 1116 00:57:16,959 --> 00:57:19,542 I'm raising dogs here at this institution 1117 00:57:19,542 --> 00:57:24,458 and, um, training them to go and help people who have disabilities. 1118 00:57:24,458 --> 00:57:27,959 It's my way of expressing love to people who need-- 1119 00:57:27,959 --> 00:57:30,458 who really need somebody or something, 1120 00:57:30,458 --> 00:57:34,166 because, um, you know, it's a lot of people 1121 00:57:34,166 --> 00:57:37,917 who are alone or whatever, and I get a chance 1122 00:57:37,917 --> 00:57:42,542 to express that love through the dogs that I train. 1123 00:57:42,542 --> 00:57:44,291 Yes, I will. 1124 00:57:44,291 --> 00:57:46,959 I-- yes, I'm gonna go that far. 1125 00:57:46,959 --> 00:57:50,041 Yes, I will. ( laughing ) I will. 1126 00:57:50,041 --> 00:57:53,750 Um, dogs have more empathy than people. 1127 00:57:53,750 --> 00:57:57,083 ( laughing ) Because, I mean, 1128 00:57:57,083 --> 00:57:59,291 you know, I'm not saying that people are just, 1129 00:57:59,291 --> 00:58:02,875 you know, gonna ignore you or totally, like, don't care, 1130 00:58:02,875 --> 00:58:07,959 but they not gonna reach out and, you know, give you a hug. 1131 00:58:07,959 --> 00:58:10,083 "Oh, you be a'ight." 1132 00:58:12,166 --> 00:58:13,667 But the dog is so different. 1133 00:58:13,667 --> 00:58:16,291 She'll jump on me, roll around on the floor. 1134 00:58:16,291 --> 00:58:19,375 You know, lick me, try to get me to play with her 1135 00:58:19,375 --> 00:58:21,667 and then I'd be like, "Okay." 1136 00:58:21,667 --> 00:58:23,417 You know, get myself together 1137 00:58:23,417 --> 00:58:26,792 and try to think about how I'm gonna move through this. 1138 00:58:26,792 --> 00:58:31,625 They're being taught, and it's constant, all day, every day. 1139 00:58:31,625 --> 00:58:34,875 It's teaching them and praising them 1140 00:58:34,875 --> 00:58:37,583 and letting them know they're doing the right thing 1141 00:58:37,583 --> 00:58:43,375 and... we get really good results. 1142 00:58:43,375 --> 00:58:47,250 Out of 100 dogs, 89 are gonna make it. 1143 00:58:47,250 --> 00:58:49,750 - ( school bell rings ) - ( music playing ) 1144 00:58:49,750 --> 00:58:51,875 ( kids chattering ) 1145 00:58:51,875 --> 00:58:54,125 It was... 1146 00:58:54,125 --> 00:58:56,333 Huey Elementary School, 1147 00:58:56,333 --> 00:58:59,750 and it-- it was... 1148 00:58:59,750 --> 00:59:03,375 ( groans ) ohh... it was rough. 1149 00:59:04,959 --> 00:59:09,458 I never knew how bad a situation could be 1150 00:59:09,458 --> 00:59:11,709 until I worked with that population. 1151 00:59:11,709 --> 00:59:17,125 You have 10 of the most needy children 1152 00:59:17,125 --> 00:59:21,125 who need food, clothes, 1153 00:59:21,125 --> 00:59:25,458 love, shelter, like, an education. 1154 00:59:25,458 --> 00:59:28,750 They just need so much, and you're just one person. 1155 00:59:28,750 --> 00:59:31,709 And ( stutters ) it-- I felt hopeless. 1156 00:59:31,709 --> 00:59:34,333 I felt hopeless in the situation. 1157 00:59:34,333 --> 00:59:38,458 I felt like I had a whole bunch of starving, hungry people 1158 00:59:38,458 --> 00:59:40,917 and I had nothing in my hands to give them, 1159 00:59:40,917 --> 00:59:43,417 even though I tried to give them so much. 1160 00:59:43,417 --> 00:59:46,458 But they had seen so much of life, so much rough stuff, 1161 00:59:46,458 --> 00:59:48,250 that they were like, "What's school?" 1162 00:59:48,250 --> 00:59:50,667 You know what I mean? I got 7th graders smoking weed. 1163 00:59:50,667 --> 00:59:52,166 "What's school?" 1164 00:59:52,166 --> 00:59:54,458 I got 7th graders out all hours of the night. 1165 00:59:54,458 --> 00:59:57,333 How am I gonna keep them in the classroom, incentivizing them? 1166 00:59:57,333 --> 00:59:59,667 And I spent so much time with my heart racing 1167 00:59:59,667 --> 01:00:01,083 because there were so many fights 1168 01:00:01,083 --> 01:00:02,667 that would just spontaneously start to fight. 1169 01:00:02,667 --> 01:00:04,250 "Bitch, what the fuck you looking at? 1170 01:00:04,250 --> 01:00:06,125 Bitch, I'll fuck you up!" No one said it to me, 1171 01:00:06,125 --> 01:00:08,125 they said it to each other, but there goes my heart racing. 1172 01:00:08,125 --> 01:00:10,291 And I don't wanna-- I ran-- I ran that classroom. 1173 01:00:10,291 --> 01:00:11,792 I ran a tight ship. 1174 01:00:11,792 --> 01:00:15,083 There was never-- I broke everything up. 1175 01:00:15,083 --> 01:00:17,500 And it got to the point the people would be like-- 1176 01:00:17,500 --> 01:00:19,375 like, a new kid would come in and they be like, 1177 01:00:19,375 --> 01:00:21,166 "Don't mess with Ms. Williams, she'll tear you up. 1178 01:00:21,166 --> 01:00:23,000 Don't fuck with her. You better leave her alone." 1179 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,709 Whatever. 1180 01:00:24,709 --> 01:00:28,417 But it's hard to be that strong day in and day out. 1181 01:00:28,417 --> 01:00:30,583 It really is. 1182 01:00:30,583 --> 01:00:33,959 It was like being... 1183 01:00:33,959 --> 01:00:37,750 it was like being in jail without a gun. 1184 01:00:37,750 --> 01:00:40,250 It was like... me running a jail without a gun. 1185 01:00:40,250 --> 01:00:45,041 That's what it was like. Running a jail without a gun. 1186 01:00:45,041 --> 01:00:46,250 Everybody for themselves, 1187 01:00:46,250 --> 01:00:47,709 but I want you to maintain order. 1188 01:00:47,709 --> 01:00:49,542 No guns, no handcuffs, no billy clubs, 1189 01:00:49,542 --> 01:00:50,667 I can't throw you in the closet, 1190 01:00:50,667 --> 01:00:52,083 I can't do any of that. 1191 01:00:52,083 --> 01:00:55,583 I gotta keep you in order just by me being me. 1192 01:00:55,583 --> 01:00:59,792 I had this one student who was, um, uh, 1193 01:00:59,792 --> 01:01:03,709 ( sighs ) he was a foster child. 1194 01:01:03,709 --> 01:01:07,000 And his parents were addicted to drugs 1195 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,458 and he got very sick as a baby, 1196 01:01:08,458 --> 01:01:10,291 so they took him to the hospital 1197 01:01:10,291 --> 01:01:11,875 and they found out he was being molested, 1198 01:01:11,875 --> 01:01:15,125 so they immediately put him in another foster home. 1199 01:01:15,125 --> 01:01:16,875 I think his father was molesting him. 1200 01:01:16,875 --> 01:01:19,250 So he showed symptoms of being molested 1201 01:01:19,250 --> 01:01:21,750 and being addicted to drugs as a baby. 1202 01:01:21,750 --> 01:01:25,417 And he would have these fits of-- I mean, complete rage. 1203 01:01:25,417 --> 01:01:26,959 Docile any other time. 1204 01:01:26,959 --> 01:01:30,417 I'm talking about zero to a million in a second. 1205 01:01:30,417 --> 01:01:35,250 I have never seen an 11-year-old pull a tree out of the ground. 1206 01:01:35,250 --> 01:01:39,417 Out the ground. So angry he could actually pull a tree out of the ground. 1207 01:01:39,417 --> 01:01:42,709 So angry he could take a whole table and turn it over. 1208 01:01:42,709 --> 01:01:48,417 How I met him? I met him, um-- it was my first week at Huey. 1209 01:01:48,417 --> 01:01:50,041 And I hear somebody screaming, 1210 01:01:50,041 --> 01:01:51,834 like this bloodcurdling scream. 1211 01:01:51,834 --> 01:01:55,041 And I see somebody running through the halls. 1212 01:01:55,041 --> 01:01:57,792 It's kind of like a slow running kind of run like this. 1213 01:01:57,792 --> 01:02:00,959 And he's just, like, pouring sweat, 1214 01:02:00,959 --> 01:02:03,333 just, like, pouring down his body, 1215 01:02:03,333 --> 01:02:06,792 and he's ripping things off of the wall and just-- 1216 01:02:06,792 --> 01:02:08,291 ( screams ) 1217 01:02:08,291 --> 01:02:10,333 And he's just throwing stuff and throwing stuff 1218 01:02:10,333 --> 01:02:12,125 and throwing stuff and throwing stuff. 1219 01:02:12,125 --> 01:02:14,792 And I just followed him and followed him and followed him 1220 01:02:14,792 --> 01:02:17,500 and we ended up down on the first floor. 1221 01:02:17,500 --> 01:02:19,417 And I did not know what to do, I did not know what to do 1222 01:02:19,417 --> 01:02:21,417 because I've never seen anybody doing anything like this. 1223 01:02:21,417 --> 01:02:24,125 I did not know what to do, so all I did was, 1224 01:02:24,125 --> 01:02:27,083 I just grab him in the tightest hug 1225 01:02:27,083 --> 01:02:30,583 and I just hold him and hold him 1226 01:02:30,583 --> 01:02:33,542 and hold because I had him in, like, a hold, 1227 01:02:33,542 --> 01:02:36,458 but it was a hug and-- because I'm really, really strong-- 1228 01:02:36,458 --> 01:02:41,625 and I just hold him and hold him and hold him till his whole body just-- 1229 01:02:47,750 --> 01:02:52,542 collapsed... and he just started crying 1230 01:02:52,542 --> 01:02:58,333 and crying and crying and crying on me. 1231 01:02:58,333 --> 01:03:04,000 And that was my third day at Huey. 1232 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,375 ( music playing ) 1233 01:03:21,834 --> 01:03:26,500 I became interested in brain development 1234 01:03:26,500 --> 01:03:28,709 and in the effect of stress 1235 01:03:28,709 --> 01:03:30,917 on the development of the brain. 1236 01:03:30,917 --> 01:03:33,709 And I am getting notes from teachers 1237 01:03:33,709 --> 01:03:36,625 saying, "This kid has ADHD. 1238 01:03:36,625 --> 01:03:38,875 Please place on Ritalin." 1239 01:03:38,875 --> 01:03:41,041 And I'm like, "Wow! 1240 01:03:41,041 --> 01:03:44,709 ( chuckling ) The diagnosis has been made, 1241 01:03:44,709 --> 01:03:47,000 there is a treatment plan. 1242 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:48,458 Am I needed for anything?" 1243 01:03:48,458 --> 01:03:50,709 And in fact, when some of these children 1244 01:03:50,709 --> 01:03:52,500 had an in-depth clinical evaluation, 1245 01:03:52,500 --> 01:03:56,166 they did not have Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, 1246 01:03:56,166 --> 01:03:59,750 but they had a long history of adversity 1247 01:03:59,750 --> 01:04:05,417 and a long history of, not only of stress, but of traumatic stress. 1248 01:04:05,417 --> 01:04:09,667 It's a type of stress that really impacts-- 1249 01:04:09,667 --> 01:04:13,166 ( stutters ) it impairs your function-- 1250 01:04:13,166 --> 01:04:16,125 it impairs your function socially, 1251 01:04:16,125 --> 01:04:20,458 it impairs your function academically, and it impairs how you feel. 1252 01:04:20,458 --> 01:04:24,625 You feel distressed, and this is how these children were feeling. 1253 01:04:24,625 --> 01:04:29,417 Historical trauma exists, and not only in history. 1254 01:04:29,417 --> 01:04:31,625 It exists in our daily life. 1255 01:04:31,625 --> 01:04:35,750 I think as a society we sometimes experience symptoms 1256 01:04:35,750 --> 01:04:38,041 of Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, 1257 01:04:38,041 --> 01:04:41,834 specifically avoidance, which is a very bad symptom. 1258 01:04:41,834 --> 01:04:44,083 You know, avoidance-- not wanting to talk about it, 1259 01:04:44,083 --> 01:04:46,291 not thinking about it, not addressing it. 1260 01:04:46,291 --> 01:04:50,083 And what happens when that avoidance is there, 1261 01:04:50,083 --> 01:04:55,125 the impact of the trauma permeates, it continues. 1262 01:04:55,125 --> 01:04:57,625 I see many children who do not have 1263 01:04:57,625 --> 01:04:59,792 the trauma experience in their lives, 1264 01:04:59,792 --> 01:05:02,834 but they learn it as a response from caretakers. 1265 01:05:02,834 --> 01:05:03,792 They model it. 1266 01:05:03,792 --> 01:05:06,500 And some individuals think 1267 01:05:06,500 --> 01:05:10,458 that also it is passed epigenetically, 1268 01:05:10,458 --> 01:05:15,792 and that what happens is there are some changes in the coding of your DNA 1269 01:05:15,792 --> 01:05:18,291 where you actually alter your DNA, 1270 01:05:18,291 --> 01:05:22,834 and then what you are passing is altered DNA. 1271 01:05:22,834 --> 01:05:25,333 Slavery. 1272 01:05:25,333 --> 01:05:29,375 Um... the social factors 1273 01:05:29,375 --> 01:05:33,667 that are surround the issue of slavery-- 1274 01:05:33,667 --> 01:05:38,500 the history of slavery are... enough. 1275 01:05:38,500 --> 01:05:41,625 ( chuckles ) They don't need any DNA change 1276 01:05:41,625 --> 01:05:44,750 because of the way in which they have resulted 1277 01:05:44,750 --> 01:05:48,583 in many communities of African-Americans 1278 01:05:48,583 --> 01:05:51,291 living in a state of poverty 1279 01:05:51,291 --> 01:05:54,667 where it's very hard for them to escape from. 1280 01:05:54,667 --> 01:05:58,583 It's a way of maintaining that enslavement. 1281 01:05:58,583 --> 01:06:03,250 And of course, poverty is not only in-- with African-Americans. 1282 01:06:03,250 --> 01:06:05,041 It exists in all communities, 1283 01:06:05,041 --> 01:06:11,041 but I think that in many communities that are African-American 1284 01:06:11,041 --> 01:06:14,875 have gone through a history of slavery 1285 01:06:14,875 --> 01:06:18,625 to another form of slavery, you know? 1286 01:06:18,625 --> 01:06:20,709 Through poverty. 1287 01:06:22,709 --> 01:06:25,458 Trauma? Shit. 1288 01:06:25,458 --> 01:06:27,834 Anybody-- Anybody can-- 1289 01:06:27,834 --> 01:06:30,917 Anything that a freakin'-- 1290 01:06:30,917 --> 01:06:32,542 They say they went to school for all that shit 1291 01:06:32,542 --> 01:06:33,750 and all that bullshit? 1292 01:06:33,750 --> 01:06:35,709 Naw. Hell, naw. 1293 01:06:35,709 --> 01:06:39,041 You can fake their asses, like, a lot. 1294 01:06:39,041 --> 01:06:41,709 I seen a motherfucker fake trauma to the max. 1295 01:06:41,709 --> 01:06:43,000 Hell, yeah. 1296 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,583 He was acting like he was traumatized 1297 01:06:44,583 --> 01:06:46,166 by what he did, 1298 01:06:46,166 --> 01:06:49,083 and they had to comfort him like he was a little baby. 1299 01:06:49,083 --> 01:06:51,750 He confuse 'em. Hell, yeah! 1300 01:06:51,750 --> 01:06:53,208 You could trick a therapist 1301 01:06:53,208 --> 01:06:56,000 into giving you meds, and they would do it. 1302 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,917 He really would fall for it. You could trick therapists. 1303 01:06:58,917 --> 01:07:02,750 They're supposed to know when you're telling a lie. 1304 01:07:02,750 --> 01:07:04,917 They wouldn't even know. 1305 01:07:04,917 --> 01:07:07,250 I tricked them. I told them I couldn't sleep. 1306 01:07:07,250 --> 01:07:10,250 They gave me sleeping meds. 1307 01:07:10,250 --> 01:07:13,917 Historical trauma, that's bullshit. 1308 01:07:13,917 --> 01:07:16,417 That's bullshit. 1309 01:07:16,417 --> 01:07:19,667 Hell, no. I'm Salvadorian. 1310 01:07:19,667 --> 01:07:21,875 They done mess half my people up. 1311 01:07:21,875 --> 01:07:25,417 And the blacks who are incarcerated? 1312 01:07:25,417 --> 01:07:27,834 They don't-- they don't, man-- 1313 01:07:27,834 --> 01:07:32,083 most of blacks who are incarcerated don't even care about slavery. 1314 01:07:32,083 --> 01:07:34,291 They be like, "It wasn't my time. 1315 01:07:34,291 --> 01:07:36,959 I wasn't there. What I care about it?" 1316 01:07:36,959 --> 01:07:38,709 No, hell no. 1317 01:07:38,709 --> 01:07:42,000 You wanna change people, you gotta do it internally. 1318 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,625 You wanna change, you gotta do it by yourself. 1319 01:07:45,625 --> 01:07:47,625 Just like I'm doing. 1320 01:07:47,625 --> 01:07:50,750 I got out. I got a job. 1321 01:07:50,750 --> 01:07:52,000 Got my substance abu-- 1322 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,542 Oh, yeah, I'm-- I'm a dishwasher. 1323 01:07:55,542 --> 01:07:58,500 Disney Hall, Downtown L.A. 1324 01:07:58,500 --> 01:08:03,625 ( scoffs ) Trauma. Motherfuckers act like that to a max. 1325 01:08:03,625 --> 01:08:06,083 Yeah, some cases, it's true. 1326 01:08:06,083 --> 01:08:07,709 Like the sexos. 1327 01:08:07,709 --> 01:08:09,417 Sex offenders? 1328 01:08:09,417 --> 01:08:11,709 Understand about the sexos-- they have a-- 1329 01:08:11,709 --> 01:08:14,208 they repeat what they did-- what happened to them, 1330 01:08:14,208 --> 01:08:17,875 so I understand about the sexos. 1331 01:08:17,875 --> 01:08:22,041 Oh, a sexo put a baby 1332 01:08:22,041 --> 01:08:28,000 in a microwave and let it pop. 1333 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,625 Let that motherfucker pop. 1334 01:08:31,625 --> 01:08:35,125 That's some fucked up shit. 1335 01:08:35,125 --> 01:08:37,083 Not even the hardest vatos that I know 1336 01:08:37,083 --> 01:08:39,583 will do some shit like that. 1337 01:08:39,583 --> 01:08:42,208 Not even the hardest gang members I know 1338 01:08:42,208 --> 01:08:45,375 would do some shit like that. 1339 01:08:45,375 --> 01:08:48,583 Even we look at you like you retarded. 1340 01:08:48,583 --> 01:08:53,417 Why the fuck would you kill a baby? 1341 01:08:53,417 --> 01:08:56,542 We frown upon that shit. 1342 01:08:56,542 --> 01:08:59,208 We don't fucking do that baby. 1343 01:08:59,208 --> 01:09:02,417 We don't fuck an innocent baby. 1344 01:09:02,417 --> 01:09:05,667 We don't like doing that shit. 1345 01:09:05,667 --> 01:09:09,750 But it happens. 1346 01:09:09,750 --> 01:09:12,166 I'll smoke that motherfucker. 1347 01:09:12,166 --> 01:09:14,291 I would kill that motherfucker. 1348 01:09:14,291 --> 01:09:17,208 Hell, yeah, I believe in capital punishment, 1349 01:09:17,208 --> 01:09:22,041 especially for sexos and murderers. 1350 01:09:22,041 --> 01:09:23,375 Fuck it. 1351 01:09:23,375 --> 01:09:27,375 You got caught for it, oh, well, you dead. 1352 01:09:27,375 --> 01:09:33,083 Shit, you're dumb enough to get caught for it, it's your bad. 1353 01:09:33,083 --> 01:09:34,875 ( music playing ) 1354 01:09:39,875 --> 01:09:42,625 If I may interrupt you for a moment. 1355 01:09:45,333 --> 01:09:48,917 Luckily, I'm not 15. 1356 01:09:48,917 --> 01:09:53,083 But if I were, how in the world 1357 01:09:53,083 --> 01:09:56,834 would I find any respect for human life 1358 01:09:56,834 --> 01:09:59,000 or any sense of history? 1359 01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,417 And history is a concept 1360 01:10:00,417 --> 01:10:02,583 that exists in almost nobody's mind. 1361 01:10:02,583 --> 01:10:04,041 Go on, go on. 1362 01:10:04,041 --> 01:10:06,000 ( music playing ) 1363 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,917 According to the West, I have no history. 1364 01:10:08,917 --> 01:10:14,291 I've had to wrest my identity out of the jaws of the West. 1365 01:10:15,792 --> 01:10:19,125 What I'm trying to say is that if I were young, 1366 01:10:19,125 --> 01:10:22,750 - I find myself with no models. - ( ice crunching ) 1367 01:10:22,750 --> 01:10:27,291 And that's a very crucial situation. 1368 01:10:27,291 --> 01:10:29,458 Because what we've done. 1369 01:10:29,458 --> 01:10:32,333 The world we created. 1370 01:10:32,333 --> 01:10:37,625 If I were 15, I'd feel hopeless, too. 1371 01:10:37,625 --> 01:10:42,291 So you see, what we gotta try to do, what we gotta try to face... 1372 01:10:46,166 --> 01:10:50,041 I read a little book... 1373 01:10:50,041 --> 01:10:53,834 called "The Way It Spozed to Be." 1374 01:10:53,834 --> 01:10:55,709 And it was poetry and things 1375 01:10:55,709 --> 01:10:59,792 written by... little black children, 1376 01:10:59,792 --> 01:11:03,291 Mexican, Puerto Rican children. 1377 01:11:03,291 --> 01:11:08,792 Land of the free, home of the brave. 1378 01:11:08,792 --> 01:11:12,083 And the teacher had made a compilation 1379 01:11:12,083 --> 01:11:15,458 of all the poems these kids wrote. 1380 01:11:15,458 --> 01:11:19,166 And he respected them and he dealt with them 1381 01:11:19,166 --> 01:11:20,959 as if they were-- as, in fact, 1382 01:11:20,959 --> 01:11:25,667 all children are, as in fact, all human beings are-- 1383 01:11:25,667 --> 01:11:28,208 some kind of a miracle. 1384 01:11:28,208 --> 01:11:31,500 And so something wonderful happened. 1385 01:11:31,500 --> 01:11:36,917 And so for me, that very tiny book-- it's only 30 pages long... 1386 01:11:36,917 --> 01:11:39,542 one boy wrote a poem-- 1387 01:11:39,542 --> 01:11:42,583 16 years old, who's in prison-- 1388 01:11:42,583 --> 01:11:47,709 it ended, four lines I never will forget. 1389 01:11:47,709 --> 01:11:53,375 "Walk on water. Walk on a leaf. 1390 01:11:53,375 --> 01:11:58,709 Hardest of all is walk in grief." 1391 01:12:00,166 --> 01:12:03,375 So, what I'm trying to get at, 1392 01:12:03,375 --> 01:12:06,125 I hope, is that there is 1393 01:12:06,125 --> 01:12:09,667 a tremendous national, 1394 01:12:10,750 --> 01:12:15,667 global, moral waste. 1395 01:12:17,041 --> 01:12:20,875 And the question is how can it be arrested? 1396 01:12:20,875 --> 01:12:22,417 It's an enormous question. 1397 01:12:22,417 --> 01:12:25,792 Look, you and I, we've become whatever we become. 1398 01:12:25,792 --> 01:12:29,583 The curtain will come down eventually. 1399 01:12:29,583 --> 01:12:32,083 But what should we do about the children? 1400 01:12:33,917 --> 01:12:36,375 We are responsible, 1401 01:12:36,375 --> 01:12:41,375 insofar as we're responsible for anything at all, 1402 01:12:41,375 --> 01:12:44,083 we are responsible 1403 01:12:44,083 --> 01:12:48,583 for the future of this world. 1404 01:12:48,583 --> 01:12:53,000 - ( multiple gunshots ) - ( music playing ) 1405 01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:56,625 ( sirens wail ) 1406 01:12:56,625 --> 01:13:00,125 Barack Obama: I spoke with and Vice President Biden 1407 01:13:00,125 --> 01:13:02,625 spoke with Mayor Joe Riley and other leaders 1408 01:13:02,625 --> 01:13:06,667 of Charleston to express our deep sorrow 1409 01:13:06,667 --> 01:13:10,625 over the senseless murders that took place last night. 1410 01:13:10,625 --> 01:13:11,834 ( cameras clicking ) 1411 01:13:11,834 --> 01:13:13,625 Michelle and I know several members 1412 01:13:13,625 --> 01:13:17,291 of Emanuel AME Church. 1413 01:13:17,291 --> 01:13:22,500 We knew their pastor, Reverend Clementa Pinckney, 1414 01:13:22,500 --> 01:13:25,458 who along with eight others gathered in prayer 1415 01:13:25,458 --> 01:13:29,875 and fellowship and was murdered last night. 1416 01:13:29,875 --> 01:13:33,917 Obama: Mother Emanuel is in fact more than a church. 1417 01:13:33,917 --> 01:13:37,834 This is a place of worship that was founded by 1418 01:13:37,834 --> 01:13:41,417 African-Americans seeking liberty. 1419 01:13:41,417 --> 01:13:43,709 This is a church that was burned to the ground 1420 01:13:43,709 --> 01:13:48,667 because its worshippers worked to end slavery. 1421 01:13:48,667 --> 01:13:51,875 When there were laws banning all-black church gatherings, 1422 01:13:51,875 --> 01:13:54,375 they conducted services in secret. 1423 01:13:56,834 --> 01:13:59,000 Judge: Mr. Roof, you're charged with nine counts of murder 1424 01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:00,667 and one count of possession of a weapon 1425 01:14:00,667 --> 01:14:02,333 during the commission of a violent crime. 1426 01:14:02,333 --> 01:14:04,792 Is there a representative of any of the family 1427 01:14:04,792 --> 01:14:06,291 that would be here that wished 1428 01:14:06,291 --> 01:14:08,625 to make a statement before this court? 1429 01:14:08,625 --> 01:14:10,834 Woman: I forgive you. 1430 01:14:10,834 --> 01:14:13,291 Woman #2: And I forgive you. 1431 01:14:13,291 --> 01:14:15,458 Man: I forgive you and my family forgives you. 1432 01:14:15,458 --> 01:14:21,041 Woman #3: We are the family that love built. 1433 01:14:21,041 --> 01:14:26,542 We have no room for hating, so we have to forgive. 1434 01:14:26,542 --> 01:14:28,709 ( woman vocalizing ) 1435 01:14:35,041 --> 01:14:37,917 Obama: For too long, we were blind to the pain 1436 01:14:37,917 --> 01:14:41,166 that the Confederate flag stirred in too many of our citizens. 1437 01:14:41,166 --> 01:14:44,041 ( applause ) 1438 01:14:44,041 --> 01:14:47,291 Obama: By taking down that flag, we express God's grace. 1439 01:14:47,291 --> 01:14:50,792 ( all chanting ) Take it down! Take it down! 1440 01:14:50,792 --> 01:14:55,417 Take it down! Take it down! Take it down! 1441 01:14:55,417 --> 01:14:58,000 That was really the snapping point for me. 1442 01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:01,166 And it was, like, you know, how can we possibly get this flag down? 1443 01:15:01,166 --> 01:15:04,667 Now, in 2000, somebody put a ladder up against the pole, 1444 01:15:04,667 --> 01:15:06,542 climbed to the top, set it on fire, 1445 01:15:06,542 --> 01:15:08,709 and South Carolina built a four-foot fence around it. 1446 01:15:08,709 --> 01:15:10,792 So it wasn't going to be easy. 1447 01:15:10,792 --> 01:15:13,750 You basically had the coming together of two activist groups. 1448 01:15:13,750 --> 01:15:15,834 There was Black Lives Matter-- The Tribe-- 1449 01:15:15,834 --> 01:15:17,625 who were mostly black activists, 1450 01:15:17,625 --> 01:15:19,750 and then you had these environmentalists-- 1451 01:15:19,750 --> 01:15:22,542 Occupy activists who were mostly white. 1452 01:15:22,542 --> 01:15:26,625 And it took a lot of trust. 1453 01:15:26,625 --> 01:15:28,041 I mean, here I walked into this room 1454 01:15:28,041 --> 01:15:29,458 and half of the people in this room 1455 01:15:29,458 --> 01:15:31,000 I've never seen before in my life, 1456 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:32,250 and we're talking about going down 1457 01:15:32,250 --> 01:15:33,667 and taking down the Confederate flag. 1458 01:15:33,667 --> 01:15:35,709 I mean, I really felt 1459 01:15:35,709 --> 01:15:40,834 on my heart that... I was supposed to do this. 1460 01:15:40,834 --> 01:15:43,417 That God had called me to do this, 1461 01:15:43,417 --> 01:15:45,792 but I didn't want it to be some whim. 1462 01:15:45,792 --> 01:15:48,625 I mean, it's not a whim thing to do. 1463 01:15:48,625 --> 01:15:51,291 You know, I didn't have any experience climbing. 1464 01:15:51,291 --> 01:15:53,125 And I had been arrested before, 1465 01:15:53,125 --> 01:15:57,500 but there was never any, you know, fear of any danger, you know? 1466 01:15:57,500 --> 01:16:00,208 I mean, and now, we're talking about a situation where 1467 01:16:00,208 --> 01:16:02,125 I could be potentially putting my life at risk. 1468 01:16:02,125 --> 01:16:03,750 - ( horn honks ) - Man: Get off the pole. 1469 01:16:03,750 --> 01:16:05,875 Ma'am! Get down now. 1470 01:16:05,875 --> 01:16:08,458 Newsome: Um, you know, a vigilante 1471 01:16:08,458 --> 01:16:11,458 coming by with a gun while I was on the pole. 1472 01:16:11,458 --> 01:16:13,208 I mean, well, obviously, I mean, there was nothing 1473 01:16:13,208 --> 01:16:14,667 I would be able to do because I would be 1474 01:16:14,667 --> 01:16:18,125 very vulnerable on the pole. 1475 01:16:18,125 --> 01:16:19,375 I know, sir, I'm prepared. 1476 01:16:19,375 --> 01:16:20,709 Newsome: But we decided 1477 01:16:20,709 --> 01:16:24,625 that everybody else should scatter. 1478 01:16:24,625 --> 01:16:25,959 ( man chatters ) 1479 01:16:25,959 --> 01:16:27,625 You know, I think that's like a place 1480 01:16:27,625 --> 01:16:31,750 where the cause and the idea are bigger than the person 1481 01:16:31,750 --> 01:16:36,667 because I felt like even if I didn't make it down the pole, 1482 01:16:36,667 --> 01:16:38,542 the statement would still be made. 1483 01:16:38,542 --> 01:16:40,583 And that was really the point 1484 01:16:40,583 --> 01:16:42,792 that we were trying to get across. 1485 01:16:42,792 --> 01:16:48,291 That this is-- this is how serious this is. 1486 01:16:48,291 --> 01:16:51,834 Uh, yeah, I thought about Martin Luther King. 1487 01:16:51,834 --> 01:16:54,834 I mean, I-- I thought about Malcolm X. 1488 01:16:54,834 --> 01:16:58,959 But then I just had to focus on learning to climb the pole. 1489 01:16:58,959 --> 01:17:00,834 You know, I-- I had a day and a half. 1490 01:17:00,834 --> 01:17:03,667 - Woman: Take your time, Bree. - Man: Get down now. 1491 01:17:03,667 --> 01:17:05,875 Newsome: A Greenpeace activist came down from New York 1492 01:17:05,875 --> 01:17:09,083 and we practiced on Jimmy's-- James Tyson is a white man 1493 01:17:09,083 --> 01:17:11,542 that got arrested with me-- and we practiced 1494 01:17:11,542 --> 01:17:13,250 on a lamppost on Jimmy's farm. 1495 01:17:13,250 --> 01:17:14,750 Man: It is not worth it. 1496 01:17:14,750 --> 01:17:16,667 There was this police supervisor 1497 01:17:16,667 --> 01:17:18,834 in the street and he came over. 1498 01:17:18,834 --> 01:17:21,583 And he directed two of the officers 1499 01:17:21,583 --> 01:17:23,542 at the bottom of the pole to tase me, 1500 01:17:23,542 --> 01:17:28,291 and I would've been electrocuted because I was on the pole. 1501 01:17:28,291 --> 01:17:31,875 And that's when James grabbed the pole 1502 01:17:31,875 --> 01:17:35,875 and he said, you know, "If you electrocute her, 1503 01:17:35,875 --> 01:17:37,959 you'll have to electrocute me, too." 1504 01:17:37,959 --> 01:17:41,417 And I think that's when people, you know, saw. 1505 01:17:41,417 --> 01:17:43,375 They stepped back and they saw that people 1506 01:17:43,375 --> 01:17:46,208 had smartphones and cameras, and they backed off. 1507 01:17:46,208 --> 01:17:50,750 You come against me with hatred and oppression and violence. 1508 01:17:50,750 --> 01:17:53,417 I come against you in the name of God! 1509 01:17:53,417 --> 01:17:55,083 This flag comes down today! 1510 01:17:55,083 --> 01:17:58,000 Man: Get off the pole! It is not worth it. 1511 01:17:58,000 --> 01:17:59,959 ( bassist playing "Amazing Grace" ) 1512 01:17:59,959 --> 01:18:02,750 Get off the pole. 1513 01:18:02,750 --> 01:18:05,542 "The Lord is my light and my salvation. 1514 01:18:05,542 --> 01:18:08,250 Whom shall I fear? 1515 01:18:08,250 --> 01:18:11,000 The Lord is the stronghold of my life. 1516 01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:12,917 Of whom shall I be afraid?" 1517 01:18:12,917 --> 01:18:16,917 ( playing "Amazing Grace" ) 1518 01:18:19,583 --> 01:18:22,750 ( scattered cheering and applause ) 1519 01:18:35,667 --> 01:18:37,709 "The Lord is my shepherd. I shall not want." 1520 01:18:37,709 --> 01:18:39,792 Newsome: It is our duty to win! 1521 01:18:39,792 --> 01:18:41,542 Supporters: It is our duty to win! 1522 01:18:41,542 --> 01:18:43,583 Newsome: We must love and protect each other. 1523 01:18:43,583 --> 01:18:45,667 Supporters: We must love and protect each other. 1524 01:18:45,667 --> 01:18:47,583 Newsome: We have nothing to lose but our chains. 1525 01:18:47,583 --> 01:18:49,542 Supporters: Nothing to lose but our chains. 1526 01:18:49,542 --> 01:18:52,125 ( bassist continues "Amazing Grace" ) 1527 01:19:00,417 --> 01:19:03,792 ( concludes "Amazing Grace" ) 1528 01:19:09,333 --> 01:19:14,166 On our way on this, um, trip... 1529 01:19:15,875 --> 01:19:21,625 that we've been taking... for the past 13 years. 1530 01:19:21,625 --> 01:19:24,166 Members of Congress. 1531 01:19:24,166 --> 01:19:29,291 I been going back every year since 1965. 1532 01:19:30,333 --> 01:19:35,375 Back to Selma to commemorate 1533 01:19:35,375 --> 01:19:40,125 the anniversary of Bloody Sunday 1534 01:19:40,125 --> 01:19:46,000 that took place on March 7, 1965. 1535 01:19:47,625 --> 01:19:51,667 But we usually stop in Birmingham for a day 1536 01:19:51,667 --> 01:19:55,166 and then we go to Montgomery for a day. 1537 01:19:55,166 --> 01:19:59,417 And then we go to Selma. 1538 01:19:59,417 --> 01:20:04,041 But on this trip to Montgomery, 1539 01:20:04,041 --> 01:20:06,875 we stopped at First Baptist Church. 1540 01:20:06,875 --> 01:20:11,375 It's a church that was pastored by Reverend Ralph Abernathy. 1541 01:20:11,375 --> 01:20:15,792 It's the same church where I met 1542 01:20:15,792 --> 01:20:20,250 Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and Reverend Abernathy 1543 01:20:20,250 --> 01:20:23,917 in the spring of 1958. 1544 01:20:23,917 --> 01:20:25,500 Mmm. 1545 01:20:25,500 --> 01:20:30,375 Young police officer-- the chief-- 1546 01:20:31,583 --> 01:20:33,875 came to the church and he gave 1547 01:20:33,875 --> 01:20:37,250 a very moving speech to the audience. 1548 01:20:37,250 --> 01:20:39,166 The church was full. 1549 01:20:39,166 --> 01:20:42,041 Black, white, Latino, 1550 01:20:42,041 --> 01:20:45,583 Asian-Americans, members of Congress, 1551 01:20:45,583 --> 01:20:51,250 staffers, family members, children, and grandchildren. 1552 01:20:51,250 --> 01:20:57,291 And he said, "What happened in Montgomery 52 years ago 1553 01:20:58,417 --> 01:21:00,458 during the Freedom Ride 1554 01:21:00,458 --> 01:21:04,625 when you arrived, was not right." 1555 01:21:04,625 --> 01:21:06,250 ( audience murmurs ) 1556 01:21:06,250 --> 01:21:09,792 He said, "The police department didn't show up. 1557 01:21:09,792 --> 01:21:14,250 They allowed the angry mob to come and beat you." 1558 01:21:14,250 --> 01:21:17,375 And he said, "Congressman... 1559 01:21:17,375 --> 01:21:21,166 I'm sorry for what happened. 1560 01:21:21,166 --> 01:21:23,417 I want to apologize. 1561 01:21:23,417 --> 01:21:27,792 This is not the Montgomery that we want Montgomery to be. 1562 01:21:27,792 --> 01:21:32,125 This is not the police department I want to be the chief of." 1563 01:21:32,125 --> 01:21:33,625 Hmm. 1564 01:21:33,625 --> 01:21:39,041 He said, "I want you to forgive us." 1565 01:21:39,041 --> 01:21:43,166 He said, "To show the respect 1566 01:21:43,166 --> 01:21:48,792 that I have for you and for the movement, 1567 01:21:48,792 --> 01:21:53,583 I want to take off my badge 1568 01:21:53,583 --> 01:21:56,750 and give it to you." 1569 01:21:56,750 --> 01:22:01,500 The church was so quiet, no one said a word. 1570 01:22:01,500 --> 01:22:06,250 And I stood up to accept the badge and I started crying. 1571 01:22:06,250 --> 01:22:08,834 And everybody in the church started crying. 1572 01:22:08,834 --> 01:22:12,750 There was not a dry eye in the church. 1573 01:22:12,750 --> 01:22:16,333 I said, "Officer-- Chief... 1574 01:22:19,375 --> 01:22:22,000 I cannot accept your badge." 1575 01:22:24,959 --> 01:22:28,333 "I am not worthy to accept your badge. 1576 01:22:28,333 --> 01:22:29,667 Don't you need it?" 1577 01:22:29,667 --> 01:22:31,000 ( man laughs ) 1578 01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:34,625 He said, "Congressman, I can get another one. 1579 01:22:34,625 --> 01:22:38,834 - I want you to have my badge!" - ( laughs ) 1580 01:22:38,834 --> 01:22:40,458 - And I took it. - Mm-hmm. 1581 01:22:40,458 --> 01:22:44,458 ( stutters ) I'm never ever gonna forget it. 1582 01:22:44,458 --> 01:22:48,709 - Mm-mm. - I'mma hold onto to it forever. 1583 01:22:48,709 --> 01:22:53,417 But he hugged me and I hugged him. 1584 01:22:56,333 --> 01:22:57,625 I cried some more. 1585 01:22:57,625 --> 01:22:59,667 You had Democrats and Republicans 1586 01:22:59,667 --> 01:23:01,834 in a church crying. 1587 01:23:01,834 --> 01:23:06,041 It was the first time that any police chief 1588 01:23:06,041 --> 01:23:08,875 in any city where I visited 1589 01:23:08,875 --> 01:23:14,083 or where I was arrested in the sixties ever apologized. 1590 01:23:14,083 --> 01:23:18,041 Or where I was beaten. 1591 01:23:18,041 --> 01:23:21,250 - It was a moment of grace. - Mm-hmm. 1592 01:23:21,250 --> 01:23:25,709 He hugged me. He held me. 1593 01:23:25,709 --> 01:23:29,583 And it-it-it felt so freeing 1594 01:23:29,583 --> 01:23:33,583 and at the same time-- so liberating, 1595 01:23:33,583 --> 01:23:35,417 and at the same time, I felt like, 1596 01:23:35,417 --> 01:23:39,291 "You know, I'm not worthy. I mean, I'm just one. 1597 01:23:39,291 --> 01:23:42,917 I'm just one. I'm just one of the people. 1598 01:23:42,917 --> 01:23:44,750 'Cause many people were beaten." 1599 01:23:44,750 --> 01:23:46,041 Mm-hmm. 1600 01:23:46,041 --> 01:23:48,959 It's, uh, it's "Amazing Grace." 1601 01:23:48,959 --> 01:23:50,125 Hmm. 1602 01:23:50,125 --> 01:23:51,417 - ( chuckles ) - Y'all know that song? 1603 01:23:51,417 --> 01:23:52,834 - Audience: Yes. - Y'all know it? 1604 01:23:52,834 --> 01:23:54,750 - Oh, yes. - Uh-huh. 1605 01:23:54,750 --> 01:23:56,959 Y'all know that line in there? 1606 01:23:56,959 --> 01:24:01,667 - Man: Mm-hmm. - Help me with it. "Save a wretch like me." 1607 01:24:01,667 --> 01:24:06,125 All: ♪ Save a wretch ♪ 1608 01:24:06,125 --> 01:24:09,208 ♪ Like me ♪ 1609 01:24:09,208 --> 01:24:11,417 Sing it, sing it, y'all. Sing it good. 1610 01:24:11,417 --> 01:24:16,792 All: ♪ I once was lost ♪ 1611 01:24:17,959 --> 01:24:23,125 ♪ But now I'm found ♪ 1612 01:24:23,125 --> 01:24:24,291 Give it your heart. 1613 01:24:24,291 --> 01:24:29,291 ♪ Was blind, but now ♪ 1614 01:24:30,458 --> 01:24:33,375 ♪ I see. ♪ 1615 01:24:33,375 --> 01:24:37,166 That's right. That's right. 1616 01:24:37,166 --> 01:24:40,208 "Save a wretch like me." 1617 01:24:40,208 --> 01:24:44,000 A sinner sins. We're all falling short. 1618 01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:48,667 - Mmm. - We all just trying to make it. 1619 01:24:48,667 --> 01:24:51,583 We all searchin'! 1620 01:24:51,583 --> 01:24:54,875 Like Dr. King said: We out to redeem the soul of America, 1621 01:24:54,875 --> 01:24:56,792 we first have to redeem ourselves. 1622 01:24:56,792 --> 01:24:59,667 - Man: Amen. - But this message-- 1623 01:24:59,667 --> 01:25:05,500 this act of grace of the badge says to me... 1624 01:25:07,500 --> 01:25:12,458 "Hold on. Never give up. 1625 01:25:12,458 --> 01:25:17,458 Never give in. Never lose faith. 1626 01:25:17,458 --> 01:25:19,333 Keep the faith." 1627 01:25:31,417 --> 01:25:34,875 Only time something like this happened before 1628 01:25:34,875 --> 01:25:36,834 was a member of the Klan, 1629 01:25:36,834 --> 01:25:39,709 Rock Hill, South Carolina, 1630 01:25:39,709 --> 01:25:45,750 who beat me and my seatmate on May 9, 1961. 1631 01:25:45,750 --> 01:25:48,166 He came in the office. 1632 01:25:48,166 --> 01:25:50,583 His son had been encouraging his father 1633 01:25:50,583 --> 01:25:56,083 to seek out the people he had wronged. 1634 01:25:56,083 --> 01:26:00,041 And he came in the office, February '09. 1635 01:26:09,375 --> 01:26:10,709 ( murmurs ) 1636 01:26:15,750 --> 01:26:19,291 ( stutters ) "Mr. Lewis. 1637 01:26:24,500 --> 01:26:28,917 I'm one of the people 1638 01:26:28,917 --> 01:26:33,291 who beat you... 1639 01:26:33,291 --> 01:26:38,583 on May 9, 1961. 1640 01:26:39,750 --> 01:26:41,417 ( sniffles ) 1641 01:26:49,750 --> 01:26:51,750 I want to apologize. 1642 01:26:58,959 --> 01:27:00,917 Will you forgive me?" 1643 01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:17,917 I said, "I forgive you. 1644 01:27:20,458 --> 01:27:22,458 Accept your apology." 1645 01:27:23,959 --> 01:27:27,542 And he hugged me. And his son hugged me. 1646 01:27:27,542 --> 01:27:31,166 He started crying. His son started crying. 1647 01:27:31,166 --> 01:27:35,333 I seen that guy four different times since that time. 1648 01:27:35,333 --> 01:27:37,166 He called me brother. 1649 01:27:39,792 --> 01:27:42,166 I call him brother. 1650 01:27:42,166 --> 01:27:44,667 ( music playing ) 1651 01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:04,917 Woman: Did you hear? 1652 01:28:04,917 --> 01:28:06,834 Did you hear about the rose that grew 1653 01:28:06,834 --> 01:28:09,291 from a crack in the concrete? 1654 01:28:09,291 --> 01:28:11,917 Provin' nature's law's wrong, 1655 01:28:11,917 --> 01:28:15,166 it learned how to walk without having feet. 1656 01:28:15,166 --> 01:28:18,500 Funny it seems, but by keeping its dreams 1657 01:28:18,500 --> 01:28:21,542 it learned to breathe fresh air. 1658 01:28:21,542 --> 01:28:24,750 Long live the rose that grew from concrete 1659 01:28:24,750 --> 01:28:27,208 when no one else even cared. 1660 01:28:28,750 --> 01:28:32,083 ( music playing, male singers vocalizing ) 1661 01:28:39,041 --> 01:28:41,875 ( female singer vocalizes ) 1662 01:28:45,959 --> 01:28:48,709 ( music continues ) 1663 01:28:50,792 --> 01:28:55,041 Woman: ♪ Gotta keep climbing ♪ 1664 01:28:57,375 --> 01:29:02,375 ♪ Gotta keep prayin' ♪ 1665 01:29:02,375 --> 01:29:07,834 ♪ Got to keep climbin' and climbin' ♪ 1666 01:29:07,834 --> 01:29:12,583 ♪ Oh, gotta keep fightin' ♪ 1667 01:29:17,542 --> 01:29:20,625 ♪ You know what I'm sayin', what I'm sayin' ♪ 1668 01:29:20,625 --> 01:29:23,667 ♪ What I'm sayin', what I'm sayin' ♪ 1669 01:29:23,667 --> 01:29:27,583 - ♪ Whoo ♪ - ♪ You know what I'm sayin' ♪ 1670 01:29:27,583 --> 01:29:31,083 ♪ Gotta keep climbin' ♪ 1671 01:29:31,083 --> 01:29:36,083 ♪ Keep on prayin', yeah ♪ 1672 01:29:36,083 --> 01:29:39,500 ♪ Ooh ooh ♪ 1673 01:29:39,500 --> 01:29:44,083 ♪ Gotta keep climbin' and fightin' ♪ 1674 01:29:44,083 --> 01:29:47,250 ♪ And climbin' and prayin' ♪ 1675 01:29:47,250 --> 01:29:52,834 ♪ And whoa-oh! ♪ 1676 01:29:52,834 --> 01:29:56,000 ♪ Gotta keep on ♪ 1677 01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:59,959 ♪ Keep on, keep on climbin' ♪ 1678 01:29:59,959 --> 01:30:02,041 ♪ Oh! ♪ 1679 01:30:02,041 --> 01:30:04,291 ♪ I want my mama ♪ 1680 01:30:05,959 --> 01:30:08,125 ♪ Oh! ♪ 1681 01:30:08,125 --> 01:30:11,000 ♪ Screaming in the streets ♪ 1682 01:30:12,125 --> 01:30:13,125 ♪ Oh! ♪ 126303

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