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( audience applauding )
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( mic feedback )
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I get asked that question
all the time.
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"What is the number one
civil rights issue
of the day?"
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You know,
in magazine interviews--
you have to start ranking.
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I'm very uncomfortable
with that question
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because it is impossible
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to talk about
the criminal justice system,
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mass incarceration,
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without
talking about education.
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Because this country
is always engaged
in investments.
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We make
big investments, right?
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We make big bets.
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The 1950s, this country
massively invested
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in the creation
of the suburbs.
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We created
an interstate highway system.
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We provided,
you know, tax credits,
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to developers
to build suburbs--
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which are
racially exclusionary,
by the way--
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we made an investment
in creating a middle class,
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really going back
to the 1930s
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where the federal government
started to insure mortgages--
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only insured mortgages
for white people--
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but we made an investment.
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We made an investment
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after the war
with the GI Bill
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in the decision that we wanted
our veterans to come home
and become middle class.
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So we make
these massive investments.
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Now today, we pretend
that we don't make investments.
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Because we talk about
balancing the budget
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and the deficit,
but we always
make investments.
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And one
of the huge investments
that we made
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was in the criminal
justice system,
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and that investment was made
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at the expense
of other investments.
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We have taken dollars
that we used to give
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and that we could give
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to invest in the issue
of mental illness.
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It's not that we're not
investing in mental illness,
we are.
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We're investing in it
in the prison system.
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It's not,
you know, that we decided
to cut the budget
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and so we're not
investing in education.
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Yeah, kind of.
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We took it
to the prison system.
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So what we do is,
we take these investments
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that we could make,
these big bets,
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and we place them somewhere.
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And that's what
we call policy.
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Which, you know,
makes people's eyes
glaze over,
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but we should understand
that policy is made up
of the investments
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that we, as a society,
decide to make.
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There's a lot of heaviness
in the country
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at the moment,
a lot of pain.
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But sometimes, you have
to have these moments
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if we're going to move
our society forward.
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It takes moments,
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kind of almost epic moments,
to move us.
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And there-- there is a way
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in which we are confronting
this moment.
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And there's a privilege
in that confrontation.
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- ( applause )
- ( music playing )
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( distorted audio
of man yelling )
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Woman:
That boy's leg look broke.
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- Woman #2: Oh, my God.
- His leg broke
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and y'all dragging him
like that!
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Man:
Shorty, that was after
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they tased ( bleep )
out him like that.
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My wrist, yo, my wrist.
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- Man #2:
Get his badge number, yo.
- ( screams )
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Man:
What car
they come out of, yo?
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Him right there.
He on a bike.
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I got it,
don't worry about it.
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Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it, yo.
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After they tase you
like that,
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you wonder why
he can't use his legs.
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( distant police sirens )
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The screams is what
woke me out of my sleep.
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The screaming--
I was like, "Well, wow!
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What's all
the screaming about?"
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And then they came
to pull me up.
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Like, "Dude,
they're tasing him.
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They're tasing him."
Like, whoo!
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I jumped up,
I threw some clothes on,
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and I came out that way.
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By then,
they had him all bent up.
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He was face-down
on his stomach.
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He was handcuffed and they had
the heels of his feet
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almost to his back
and he was handcuffed
at the time.
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And they had
the knee in neck,
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and that
pretty much explains
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the three cracked vertebrae,
the crushed larynx,
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and 80% of his spinal cord
being severed and stuff.
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And then I had to zoom in
to get a closer look
on his face.
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You could see the pain
in the man's face, you know
what I'm saying?
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And then they pulled around
on Mount Street
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and they pulled him
out again.
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And they put
leg shackles on him.
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You put leg shackles
on a man
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that can barely walk
to the paddy wagon?
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That don't make sense to me,
and I never known
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an on-the-beat officer
to carry leg shackles
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and on his person in a van.
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That's something that you do
when you going
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to another compound
or when you're being
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transported to the court
or something like that.
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They don't put leg shackles
on you outside.
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They just don't do it.
So you put leg shackles
on a man that can't walk.
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You know, so you toss him
in the back of a paddy wagon
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like a dead animal,
you know what I'm saying?
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You don't even
put a seatbelt on him.
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So basically,
he's handcuffed, shackled,
sliding back and forth
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in the back
of a steel cage, basically.
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'Cause it's not
padded back there.
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I don't know why everybody
always seems to say,
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"Oh, oh, it's--
it's pa-- it's pad"--
no, it's not padded.
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It's about as padded
as the outside of that van.
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It's ridiculous
how bad they hurt that man.
Let me-- come on!
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A crushed larynx,
can you do that to yourself?
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Three cracked vertebrae,
can you do that to yourself?
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Can you sever 80%
of your own spinal cord
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in the back
of a paddy wagon,
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shackled and handcuffed
no less?
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( stutters )
It's just-- whoo!
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I just--
I wish you could see
how they had him.
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I was like, "Man,
this shit is crazy, man.
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Man, it's crazy!
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They just
don't care anymore!"
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I was like, "Man we got--
we gotta get the word out
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that this is happening."
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I was like,
"Man, we gotta record this
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because this is the only--
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this is the only weapon
that we have."
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You know, the camera
is really the only thing
we have to protect ourselves
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that's not illegal,
you know what I'm saying?
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But in the same sense,
they could say, "Oh, well,
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I mistook your camera
for a gun," you know what
I'm saying?
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- That's what I'm saying.
- ( audience murmurs )
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Uh...
( chuckles ) no.
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Actually,
I took it with my phone.
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( laughs )
And I had some brothers
from Ferguson,
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they came out
and supported me. Yeah!
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Matter of fact,
the brothers from Ferguson
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spent the night
at my house, yeah.
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And then,
they took me around
to Best Buy
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and they bought me,
like, four cameras.
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Yeah, basically arming me.
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Yeah.
( inhales )
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Yeah, it's a movement
and it's not gonna stop.
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( cell phone chiming )
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Eye contact.
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Well, yeah,
I guess that whole...
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I guess the whole
eye contact thing,
I guess that was...
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( exhales )
I've lived with
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the Freddie Gray story
since the beginning.
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I guess that's--
what the officers wrote up
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in the report, you know,
that he made eye contact
or he looked suspicious
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and that
gave 'em probable cause,
but we know the truth.
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Just a glance, that's...
that's all it takes
in Baltimore
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for something like this
to happen.
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( gulps )
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Have you ever been
to a place...
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where you don't feel tired...
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you're just tired
of being tired?
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Where you're fed up...
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and there's
nothing else left
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and you can't get
any lower.
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Past rock bottom,
past that.
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That's where I've been.
You know, so...
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You gotta keep fighting.
You gotta keep climbing.
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You gotta keep fighting.
You gotta keep praying.
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You gotta do
all the things you know
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to make yourself stronger,
'cause in the end,
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you're gonna need
every bit of strength
that you can muster
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to get yourself
from this hole.
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It's like a bunch of crabs
pulling you back.
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It's like quicksand,
and you fighting
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and you fighting
and you sinking faster
and faster.
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And I hated that Baltimore
is going through
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such harsh times right now.
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The fact that my children
may have to fight
this fight.
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How am I
gonna train my children
to deal with this?
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I'm not
gonna be here forever.
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The leaders?
( scoffs ) Man.
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Man!
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The leaders are acting
pretty assholeish right now.
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There's just
so much the leaders can do,
you know what I'm saying?
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There's just so much
they can say.
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End of the day,
they're gonna make up
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their minds
what they wanna do.
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They're gonna make up
their minds what
they wanna say.
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We can't wait
for the leaders
to make it better.
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We have to make it better.
These people are tired.
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And they want answers.
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And the only way
they're gonna get answers
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to them is cost
the city money.
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- ( overlapping yelling )
- ( loud thudding )
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( overlapping yelling )
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( man chanting )
No justice, no peace!
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No justice, no peace!
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We want all six police!
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Man 2:
Justice!
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Bullock:
I don't even look
the police way.
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To tell you the truth,
that's-- that's not even me.
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They beat me,
like, four times.
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I remember four times.
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Runnin' from them.
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That's the only thing they can
beat me for is running
from them.
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They don't like it
when you run from them.
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There's a lot
of people out here
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getting beat,
getting killed.
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This ain't just 'cause
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no Freddie Gray got killed.
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People die every day.
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Police, you feel me,
beating people,
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harassing people every day.
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Oh, they beat me
with what's it's name?
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I forget what kind of stick.
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Sometimes,
they use their hands.
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You can't protect yourself.
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With colored police
you can't say too much,
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run your mouth,
then they really see you
running your mouth,
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they're gonna do
something to you.
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They gonna-- especially
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if they ain't got no reason
to test you.
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Oh, they definitely
wanna test you.
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They chasing you and all that,
and they can't find nothing
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on you and they're just
chasing you, oh--
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( stutters )
they're gonna make it
worth their while.
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They're gonna not
even put something on you,
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they're gonna beat you
straight like that.
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Ain't no, "Oh, I'm gonna plant
something on him," no.
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They're gonna do
what they wanna do
at that time, at that moment.
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Oh, it don't--
the-- at this point,
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it don't even matter
if they black or white.
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( stutters )
I never seen-- it ain't
no black or white situation.
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I ain't trying to hear that.
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'Cause I seen plenty
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black police do it on black,
you feel me, to black people.
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I see plenty
of white police do it.
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I see 'em do it together.
This ain't no racist thing.
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I don't see no racist thing
come into play.
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They hate.
It's a hatred.
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They hate, they hate,
you feel me?
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What's the whole point
of you locking me up
or beating me up
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if you can't find
nothing on me?
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Why? 'Cause I made you run?
Oh, come on, now!
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You trained to do this.
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( siren wailing )
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Hey, stuff happen every day
in Baltimore city.
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♪ Pass me not ♪
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♪ O gentle Savior ♪
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♪ Hear my humble cry ♪
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♪ While on others ♪
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♪ Thou art calling ♪
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♪ Do not pass me by ♪
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( organ playing )
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♪ Savior ♪
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♪ Savior, Savior ♪
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♪ Hear my ♪
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♪ Humble cry ♪
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The Families
United for Justice,
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they drove through the night
from New York to be here.
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( applause )
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I want you to know
who is with us.
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I'm thankful for the daughter
of Eric Garner...
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- ( applause )
- ...who is here with us.
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The mother of Amadou Diallo
is here with us.
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The mother of Kimani Gray
is here with us.
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The sister of Shantel Davis
is here with us.
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The mother of Ramarley Graham
is with us.
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The niece of Alberta Spruill
is here with us.
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For all of them,
would you give God
a handclap of praise?
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Thank you so much
for coming.
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Would you find your way
to Luke, chapter 7.
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Luke, chapter 7.
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I want to illuminate
for your understanding
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verses 11 through 15.
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"Soon afterward,
Jesus went to a town
called Nain...
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and his disciples
and a large crowd
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went along with him.
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As he approached
the town gate,
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a dead boy
was being carried out...
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the only son of his mother,
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and she was a widow.
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And a large crowd
from the town was with her.
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And when the Lord saw her,
his heart went out
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and he said, 'Don't cry.'"
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( audience murmurs )
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"Then He went up
and touched the coffin,
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and those carrying it
stood still.
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- He said, 'Young man,
I say to you'"...
- Woman: Yes.
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- "'...get up.'"
- ( audience murmurs )
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"And the dead man sat up
and begin to talk.
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And Jesus gave him back
to his mother."
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I'm gonna preach
for a little while
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on the subject
"Breaking the box."
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Audience:
Breaking the box.
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Sociologists have unearthed
a newfound phenomenon
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called quarter-life crisis.
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And it says
that this generation of youth
in their mid-20s
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begin meandering through
the painstaking task
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of asking themselves,
"What am I gonna do
with my life?
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Is there any hope for me?
304
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What should I have done
differently?"
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Grandmother,
I need you to know
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that Freddie had to have been
going through a quarter
mid-life crisis.
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'Cause at 25 years of age,
being black in Baltimore,
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no opportunities
to go to Johns Hopkins.
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No doors open
at the University of Maryland.
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No scholarship to Morgan
and no access to Coppin.
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In a place where
I have minimal opportunities,
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Freddie had to have asked,
"When I can walk down
the Harbor
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and see Exelon, Under Armour,
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when it is that
I can look across the water
and see millions of dollars
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being poured
into Camden Yards,
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M&T Stadium,"
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he had to have asked,
"What am I gonna do
with my life?"
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He had to feel
almost as if he was boxed in.
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And on April the 12th
at 8:39 in the morning,
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four officers on bicycles
saw your son.
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And your son, in a subtlety
of revolutionary stance,
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did something that black men
are trained to, taught,
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know not to do--
he looked police in the eye.
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And I want to tell
this grieving mother,
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you are not burying a boy.
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You are burying a grown man
who knew that one
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of the principles
of being a man
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is looking somebody
in the eye.
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At 8:40,
your son began running
from the police.
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He began running.
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At 8:41, according to
the timeline, he stopped.
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He stopped not because
he was out of breath.
333
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He stopped not because
he was a weakling.
334
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He stopped not because
asthma had kicked in.
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He stopped because somewhere
in the inner recesses
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of his own mind,
he made up in his mind,
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"I'm tired of living
in a box,"
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and so he stopped running.
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So as we jaywalk
in our text,
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we notice that Jesus
and his disciples
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are coming
to an unknown hamlet
of a town known Nain.
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And Jesus is overwhelmed
by this crowd
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and he stops as he's seeing
the funeral processional.
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And Jesus says to this mother,
"Don't cry.
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Whatever you do, don't cry."
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It's a strange prescription
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to give to a family in pain,
don't cry,
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when the Bible declares
that weeping may endure
for a night
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and joy
comes in the morning.
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He says to the mother,
"Don't cry."
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But I came to tell
this grandmother,
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I came to tell the aunt,
I came to tell Freddie, Sr.,
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I came to tell
Freddie's five sisters:
don't cry.
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And the reason why
I want you not to cry
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is because Freddie's death
is not in vain.
356
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After this day,
we gonna keep on marching.
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After this day, we gonna keep
demanding justice.
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After this day,
we gonna keep exposing
a culture of corruption.
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After this day,
we gonna keep monitoring
our own neighborhood.
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- Whatever you do, don't cry.
- Woman: Don't cry. Whatever.
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And I'm praying to God
that God will lay his hand
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on everything that's trying
to keep black people in a box.
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And I don't know
if I'm talking about
redlining of zip codes
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or gentrification
or whether I'm talking about
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our prison pipeline
or inadequate public schools.
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Whatever box has been placed
around the life and future
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- of young black babies
in this city...
- ( applause )
368
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...I'm praying God
put your hand on the box.
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He said, "Watch this,"
to this young man
in the box still.
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Get up.
371
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This is not the time
for us as a people
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to be sitting on a corner,
drinking malt liquor.
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This is not the time for us
to be playing the lottery
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or to be
at the Horseshoe Casino.
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This is not the time for us
to be walking around
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00:20:15,834 --> 00:20:19,125
with our pants
hanging down past our behind.
377
00:20:19,125 --> 00:20:21,709
This is not the time
for no respect
378
00:20:21,709 --> 00:20:23,792
for our history
and our legacy.
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00:20:23,792 --> 00:20:27,083
This is not
the time for tattoos
all over your neck.
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He said
I need you to get up
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in spite of the fact
that they spend more money
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on special education
than they do on gifted
and talented programs.
383
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Get yourself up
in spite of what they told you
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that you ought to be
or what you gonna become.
385
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Get up!
You are not Lil Wayne.
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- You are not Lil Boosie.
- ( applause )
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You are in the legacy
and the mantle
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of Thurgood Marshall
and Clarence Mitchell, Sr.
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00:20:52,667 --> 00:20:55,834
and Parren Mitchell
and Kweisi Mfume.
390
00:20:55,834 --> 00:21:01,834
Get your black self up
and change this city.
391
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He speaks to him.
392
00:21:08,667 --> 00:21:14,625
And he says to this young man,
"Get up."
393
00:21:14,625 --> 00:21:18,625
And he never
opens the casket.
394
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You miss what I just said?
395
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He tells the young man,
"Get up,"
396
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when he's
in a closed casket.
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He is sending a message
to Black America--
398
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Don't expect nobody
to open the door for you.
399
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If they won't open the door,
kick that sucker down
400
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and get what you need.
401
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Get up.
402
00:21:42,709 --> 00:21:44,834
And the young man got up.
403
00:21:44,834 --> 00:21:47,000
When he was
supposed to be dead,
404
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:51,166
supposed to be over, he got up
without any prompting,
405
00:21:51,166 --> 00:21:53,875
ladies and gentlemen,
and he started talking.
406
00:21:53,875 --> 00:21:56,083
I don't know how
you can be black in America
407
00:21:56,083 --> 00:21:58,959
and be silent with everything
we going through.
408
00:21:58,959 --> 00:22:02,959
With our children
being gunned down
in the street.
409
00:22:02,959 --> 00:22:06,375
Freddie. Freddie.
410
00:22:06,375 --> 00:22:12,208
Just like this boy
in Luke, chapter 7,
411
00:22:12,208 --> 00:22:14,667
he broke out of the box.
412
00:22:14,667 --> 00:22:20,000
And again,
Luke, the gospel writer
and physician, has let me down,
413
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,875
because when that boy
broke out of the box,
414
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Luke forgot to tell me
what that boy said,
415
00:22:26,709 --> 00:22:28,583
getting out of the casket.
416
00:22:29,834 --> 00:22:32,083
But if you allow me
to validate
417
00:22:32,083 --> 00:22:36,917
my sanctified imagination,
when that black boy
418
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broke out of the casket,
you wanna know what he said?
419
00:22:40,583 --> 00:22:45,041
- ( audience responds )
- He said, "No justice!"
420
00:22:45,041 --> 00:22:46,458
Audience:
No peace!
421
00:22:46,458 --> 00:22:50,291
- No justice!
- No peace!
422
00:22:50,291 --> 00:22:53,792
- No justice!
- No peace!
423
00:22:53,792 --> 00:22:56,875
- ( music playing )
- Audience: No justice,
no peace.
424
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- Woman: No justice.
- All: No peace!
425
00:22:59,625 --> 00:23:03,875
- ♪ Do not ♪
- Woman: Why are you
fighting?
426
00:23:03,875 --> 00:23:06,542
- ♪ Do not ♪
- For what?
427
00:23:06,542 --> 00:23:11,041
- ( woman vocalizing )
- ( all chanting )
Freddie! Freddie! Freddie!
428
00:23:11,041 --> 00:23:12,750
Man: Hands up!
429
00:23:12,750 --> 00:23:14,625
Hands up!
430
00:23:14,625 --> 00:23:16,625
- Man: No justice.
- All: No peace!
431
00:23:16,625 --> 00:23:18,500
- Man: No justice.
- All: No peace!
432
00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:21,750
- Man: No justice.
- All: No peace!
433
00:23:21,750 --> 00:23:23,875
- ( police sirens )
- ( woman vocalizing )
434
00:23:23,875 --> 00:23:26,000
( helicopter thrumming )
435
00:23:27,333 --> 00:23:29,709
( sirens wailing )
436
00:23:29,709 --> 00:23:35,166
♪ ...pass me by. ♪
437
00:23:41,959 --> 00:23:43,208
( music playing )
438
00:23:43,208 --> 00:23:44,917
Woman:
Did you hear about the rose
439
00:23:44,917 --> 00:23:48,667
that grew from a crack
in the concrete?
440
00:23:48,667 --> 00:23:50,583
Proving nature's laws wrong,
441
00:23:50,583 --> 00:23:54,291
it learned how to walk
without having feet.
442
00:23:54,291 --> 00:23:57,000
Funny it seems,
but by keeping its dreams
443
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,583
it learned
to breathe fresh air.
444
00:24:00,583 --> 00:24:03,583
Long live the rose
that grew from concrete
445
00:24:03,583 --> 00:24:05,959
when no one else
even cared.
446
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,583
No one else even cared.
447
00:24:09,583 --> 00:24:11,375
( music playing )
448
00:24:19,166 --> 00:24:20,709
What do I say
about Stockton?
449
00:24:20,709 --> 00:24:22,709
Stockton's really
ground zero for a lot
450
00:24:22,709 --> 00:24:24,709
of issues
facing America right now.
451
00:24:24,709 --> 00:24:28,166
Um, my aspirations?
452
00:24:28,166 --> 00:24:30,375
Oh, you're gonna laugh.
They're pretty simple.
453
00:24:30,375 --> 00:24:32,917
Uh, I just want
a grocery store.
454
00:24:32,917 --> 00:24:35,542
There's no grocery stores.
I had no idea.
455
00:24:35,542 --> 00:24:37,375
I don't--
I don't eat really healthy.
456
00:24:37,375 --> 00:24:39,542
I eat out a lot.
People wanna buy you lunch
all the time.
457
00:24:39,542 --> 00:24:41,041
Then they have meetings.
458
00:24:41,041 --> 00:24:42,500
I knew it was
a food desert,
459
00:24:42,500 --> 00:24:43,917
'cause I studied it
in college,
460
00:24:43,917 --> 00:24:45,250
but I had no idea until,
461
00:24:45,250 --> 00:24:46,667
my girlfriend's vegetarian,
462
00:24:46,667 --> 00:24:48,625
she's from Stanford,
and she came
463
00:24:48,625 --> 00:24:50,125
to live with me
like, a week.
464
00:24:50,125 --> 00:24:51,542
And she was breaking out.
465
00:24:51,542 --> 00:24:53,667
She was like, "Michael,
I just want an apple.
466
00:24:53,667 --> 00:24:55,125
Where can I find an apple?"
467
00:24:55,125 --> 00:24:57,458
And I couldn't think
of where to get her an apple.
468
00:24:57,458 --> 00:25:00,041
I was like, "I don't know
where I could get you
an apple from."
469
00:25:00,041 --> 00:25:02,750
It was, like,
20 minutes away,
so that really prompted me.
470
00:25:02,750 --> 00:25:04,250
Okay, so let's do something
about that.
471
00:25:04,250 --> 00:25:05,834
We're doing some work around
472
00:25:05,834 --> 00:25:07,417
boys and men of color
alliances,
473
00:25:07,417 --> 00:25:09,250
trying to improve outcomes
for boys and men of color.
474
00:25:09,250 --> 00:25:10,750
For a lot of young people
in Stockton,
475
00:25:10,750 --> 00:25:12,917
it's just a prevailing sense
of nihilism.
476
00:25:12,917 --> 00:25:14,667
I don't think
it's peculiar to Stockton,
477
00:25:14,667 --> 00:25:17,542
but I think in any community
where you have segregation
478
00:25:17,542 --> 00:25:20,250
along race and class,
you have an undercaste
of young people
479
00:25:20,250 --> 00:25:22,750
who just feel forgotten,
neglected, just angry,
480
00:25:22,750 --> 00:25:24,625
and don't know what
to be angry at.
481
00:25:24,625 --> 00:25:28,291
But there's also
this amazing resilience.
482
00:25:28,291 --> 00:25:31,208
Whenever I-- whenever I talk
to young people in Stockton,
483
00:25:31,208 --> 00:25:35,542
I always quote the Tupac poem
about "The Rose That Grew
From Concrete."
484
00:25:35,542 --> 00:25:37,583
When he talks about
"Long live the rose
485
00:25:37,583 --> 00:25:39,417
that grew from the crack
in the concrete
486
00:25:39,417 --> 00:25:41,667
when no one else cared,"
and I think that really,
487
00:25:41,667 --> 00:25:43,667
really illustrates
young people,
488
00:25:43,667 --> 00:25:46,834
in my opinion, in Stockton,
who are growing in cracks
of concrete,
489
00:25:46,834 --> 00:25:49,458
not in soil, but in concrete--
we're not supposed to grow.
490
00:25:49,458 --> 00:25:51,458
Sometimes they come out
a little bit of scars.
491
00:25:51,458 --> 00:25:54,625
Sometimes they come out
a couple petals not
perfectly right.
492
00:25:54,625 --> 00:25:57,917
But the fact
that they are growing
and trying to thrive
493
00:25:57,917 --> 00:26:01,291
in a community
with so many problems,
to me, is inspiring.
494
00:26:01,291 --> 00:26:04,166
- Hmm.
- I was on a campaign.
495
00:26:04,166 --> 00:26:06,083
I was reading
to a group of first-graders.
496
00:26:06,083 --> 00:26:09,041
I was reading about
Dr. Martin King, Jr.
497
00:26:09,041 --> 00:26:10,792
And I got to the point
where he was assassinated,
498
00:26:10,792 --> 00:26:12,834
I tried to turn through
the page really quickly
499
00:26:12,834 --> 00:26:14,458
'cause I really
don't wanna talk
500
00:26:14,458 --> 00:26:17,750
to 6-year-olds about death,
so I tried to turn quickly
501
00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:21,625
and one little boy
raised his hand and said,
"Mr. Tubbs?
502
00:26:21,625 --> 00:26:23,000
My uncle got shot."
503
00:26:24,667 --> 00:26:27,625
He said it so matter-of-fact,
I thought his uncle lived.
504
00:26:27,625 --> 00:26:29,583
So I said,
"Oh, I'm so sorry,
505
00:26:29,583 --> 00:26:31,083
but I'm glad
he's still with us now."
506
00:26:31,083 --> 00:26:33,208
- He said, "Oh, no, he died."
- Man: Hmm.
507
00:26:33,208 --> 00:26:34,583
Then another little boy
raised his hand.
508
00:26:34,583 --> 00:26:36,208
"Mr. Tubbs,
my cousin got shot."
509
00:26:36,208 --> 00:26:37,917
Before I could turn
the page,
510
00:26:37,917 --> 00:26:41,417
every student
in that classroom
knew somebody been shot
511
00:26:41,417 --> 00:26:43,000
or was a victim
of violent death.
512
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,500
Young people aren't dumb.
513
00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:46,208
They may not have
the fancy academic language,
514
00:26:46,208 --> 00:26:49,625
but they understand that
something structurally
is wrong.
515
00:26:49,625 --> 00:26:51,750
And that just leads
to the nihilism,
516
00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:55,125
and it's particularly--
especially around
our young men.
517
00:26:55,125 --> 00:26:57,291
Not for all of them,
but for the ones that--
518
00:26:57,291 --> 00:26:59,333
those are
in the school-to-prison
pipeline,
519
00:26:59,333 --> 00:27:02,667
those are
killing each other,
those are the dropouts,
520
00:27:02,667 --> 00:27:05,834
it's just this idea of
( stutters, indistinct )...
521
00:27:05,834 --> 00:27:07,625
the value of life.
522
00:27:07,625 --> 00:27:09,375
Like,
my life doesn't matter.
523
00:27:09,375 --> 00:27:11,166
Like, what life is this
524
00:27:11,166 --> 00:27:13,208
when I'm struggling
to eat every day?
525
00:27:13,208 --> 00:27:14,542
You know, like,
what life is this?
526
00:27:14,542 --> 00:27:16,417
When I-- you know,
I talk to young people.
527
00:27:16,417 --> 00:27:20,083
I say, "You know,
where you wanna go
to college?"
528
00:27:20,083 --> 00:27:21,583
And they--
529
00:27:21,583 --> 00:27:24,417
"I can't see past 18,
realistically."
530
00:27:24,417 --> 00:27:27,583
I said, "No.
I want you to sit down,
write down your dreams.
531
00:27:27,583 --> 00:27:29,375
What's your goal?"
532
00:27:29,375 --> 00:27:31,125
"I just want
to be alive at 25."
533
00:27:31,125 --> 00:27:34,041
- Mm-mm.
- It's heartbreaking.
534
00:27:34,041 --> 00:27:37,417
But that's how nihilism
manifests itself.
535
00:27:37,417 --> 00:27:38,875
Prison or death.
536
00:27:38,875 --> 00:27:40,709
There's really
only one option
of opportunity
537
00:27:40,709 --> 00:27:44,667
of boys and men
of color in Stockton--
prison or death.
538
00:27:44,667 --> 00:27:48,583
( man singing
in Native American dialect )
539
00:27:50,917 --> 00:27:53,291
( music playing )
540
00:28:29,542 --> 00:28:33,792
Um, got to about 8th grade.
541
00:28:33,792 --> 00:28:37,125
Well, um, I didn't leave,
they kicked me out.
542
00:28:38,583 --> 00:28:42,041
Um, got into
too many fights.
543
00:28:42,041 --> 00:28:44,125
Always my fault
from teachers.
544
00:28:45,375 --> 00:28:46,834
Well, well, well.
545
00:28:46,834 --> 00:28:49,500
I have to say,
since I was a kid,
546
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:52,542
I went to school,
I was always in trouble,
got kicked out.
547
00:28:52,542 --> 00:28:56,041
And then,
they said I hit the teacher
in Redwood School--
548
00:28:56,041 --> 00:28:58,125
Smith River,
so they kicked me out
of there.
549
00:28:58,125 --> 00:29:01,792
And-- oh, I just pulled away
from her and it hurt her arm
or something.
550
00:29:01,792 --> 00:29:03,959
So got kicked out
of that school.
551
00:29:03,959 --> 00:29:08,375
- And then I went
to Pine Grove School.
- ( music playing )
552
00:29:08,375 --> 00:29:10,083
And when I was there--
when I was there,
553
00:29:10,083 --> 00:29:11,458
I was just always
settin' there,
554
00:29:11,458 --> 00:29:14,041
you know,
in trouble, in the office,
555
00:29:14,041 --> 00:29:15,834
so I got kicked out
of there.
556
00:29:15,834 --> 00:29:17,709
And then
I went to Crescent Elk
557
00:29:17,709 --> 00:29:19,375
and I got kicked out
of there.
558
00:29:19,375 --> 00:29:22,291
And then I went
to the community school
by the juvenile hall.
559
00:29:22,291 --> 00:29:26,000
And they didn't really
kick me out of there,
just put me in juvenile hall.
560
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,959
And then they tried
to put me back in high school
'cause I started doing good.
561
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,500
But got kicked out of there
562
00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:37,667
and I went to CYA--
California Youth Authority.
563
00:29:37,667 --> 00:29:42,583
And, um... I was the first one
of my friends to go to CYA.
564
00:29:42,583 --> 00:29:44,166
First one to go to prison.
565
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,834
Oh, because they--they--
they know I'm a killer.
566
00:29:53,583 --> 00:29:56,417
( guffaws )
567
00:30:05,041 --> 00:30:06,333
No.
568
00:30:06,333 --> 00:30:08,250
( laughing )
No.
569
00:30:08,250 --> 00:30:10,875
I just had the mentality
I was gonna be the worstest
and the baddest.
570
00:30:10,875 --> 00:30:13,000
I was gonna have
more drugs than everybody.
571
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,041
I was gonna have cars,
and so I--
572
00:30:15,041 --> 00:30:19,542
you know, I just started
lowest level of prison
( stutters ) and I--
573
00:30:19,542 --> 00:30:21,542
When I was 19,
I went to San Quentin.
574
00:30:21,542 --> 00:30:24,291
And then I just moved
from prison to prison
to prison.
575
00:30:24,291 --> 00:30:26,875
Probably my fights
got me moved around.
576
00:30:26,875 --> 00:30:29,375
It's any kind
of disrespect.
577
00:30:29,375 --> 00:30:30,917
Somebody even looks at you
a little bit funny,
578
00:30:30,917 --> 00:30:32,792
you might have
to sock 'em up, you know?
579
00:30:32,792 --> 00:30:35,208
Usually a word kicks it off--
punk, bitch, lame.
580
00:30:35,208 --> 00:30:36,458
Somebody talk about
your family,
581
00:30:36,458 --> 00:30:37,917
somebody talk about
your race.
582
00:30:37,917 --> 00:30:40,417
Oh, a lot of people
don't like Native Americans.
583
00:30:40,417 --> 00:30:42,875
Always looked down upon.
584
00:30:42,875 --> 00:30:44,250
But prison don't do nothing
585
00:30:44,250 --> 00:30:45,875
but make you a worser,
worser person.
586
00:30:45,875 --> 00:30:47,417
Got me so I didn't even--
I didn't even care
587
00:30:47,417 --> 00:30:48,375
if I hurt somebody.
588
00:30:48,375 --> 00:30:50,125
You know, just, you know,
589
00:30:50,125 --> 00:30:52,250
the longer you're in there,
the more you're gonna lose
590
00:30:52,250 --> 00:30:53,291
your feelings about caring.
591
00:30:53,291 --> 00:30:54,500
You're gonna stab somebody.
592
00:30:54,500 --> 00:30:55,875
Stab them,
stab them, stab them
593
00:30:55,875 --> 00:30:57,792
five or 10 times,
you don't care.
594
00:30:57,792 --> 00:30:59,417
They're worthless!
595
00:30:59,417 --> 00:31:01,750
Who cares about somebody
who's got 25-to-life?
596
00:31:01,750 --> 00:31:03,709
I'd walk up to somebody
who had life
597
00:31:03,709 --> 00:31:04,750
and sock him in the face.
598
00:31:04,750 --> 00:31:05,917
I ain't care.
599
00:31:05,917 --> 00:31:09,583
And, you know,
prison is just as strong
600
00:31:09,583 --> 00:31:11,125
as the world out here.
601
00:31:11,125 --> 00:31:12,959
The only difference is
you're in a cage.
602
00:31:12,959 --> 00:31:15,375
Sure, people get stabbed,
people get hurt.
603
00:31:15,375 --> 00:31:18,458
You know, it don't matter.
I got stabbed 10 times.
604
00:31:18,458 --> 00:31:20,917
It don't matter,
but I did everything I could
605
00:31:20,917 --> 00:31:22,750
to stay on top
of the food chain.
606
00:31:23,792 --> 00:31:25,125
Yeah, you know, well,
607
00:31:25,125 --> 00:31:26,500
everything I ever did
in life,
608
00:31:26,500 --> 00:31:28,750
I tried to do
to the best of my ability.
609
00:31:28,750 --> 00:31:30,500
And that's why
I don't get this school thing.
610
00:31:30,500 --> 00:31:33,750
I mean, I'm the best.
I'm the best on the river.
611
00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:35,417
I got the best smoked fish.
612
00:31:35,417 --> 00:31:37,625
Started a business
at being the best.
613
00:31:37,625 --> 00:31:40,291
I got the best
N.A. meetings in--
614
00:31:40,291 --> 00:31:44,500
I'm the baddest of the bad.
615
00:31:47,125 --> 00:31:48,834
The baddest there is.
616
00:31:51,375 --> 00:31:53,500
'Cause, you know, look,
if you're gonna go in there
617
00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:55,959
and, you know, whine,
scared, crybaby,
618
00:31:55,959 --> 00:31:59,834
people, you know,
people are gonna take
advantage of you, you know?
619
00:31:59,834 --> 00:32:02,500
Treat you bad,
but if you just go in there
620
00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:07,667
and just be a monster--
just be a monster.
621
00:32:07,667 --> 00:32:11,208
I don't even really like,
you know, thinking about
all that bad stuff.
622
00:32:11,208 --> 00:32:15,542
Just-- just talking about it
takes me back to a bad place.
623
00:32:15,542 --> 00:32:17,875
You know,
I'm in a happy place now.
624
00:32:17,875 --> 00:32:20,750
You know, I got--
now that I got cleaned up,
I got everything.
625
00:32:20,750 --> 00:32:25,125
I got everything!
I got a family, too.
626
00:32:25,125 --> 00:32:29,875
I got a son. Shaqoon.
627
00:32:29,875 --> 00:32:33,709
Call him Hog.
He wonderful, ain't he?
628
00:32:33,709 --> 00:32:35,500
He's perfect.
629
00:32:37,291 --> 00:32:40,542
( clapping hands )
Well, where you gonna be
at later?
630
00:32:40,542 --> 00:32:43,208
Wanna bring you a fish--
some smoked salmon.
631
00:32:46,333 --> 00:32:48,000
When I look in the mirror?
632
00:32:51,709 --> 00:32:52,875
See a...
633
00:32:56,375 --> 00:32:57,917
really good person...
634
00:32:59,583 --> 00:33:01,208
that's just been down
a rough road.
635
00:33:01,208 --> 00:33:03,166
And I don't know whether
if it was, you know,
636
00:33:03,166 --> 00:33:05,125
my schooling
or how I grew up,
637
00:33:05,125 --> 00:33:07,542
but-- put me on this road,
638
00:33:07,542 --> 00:33:11,166
but I wouldn't change
this road for nothin'
639
00:33:11,166 --> 00:33:13,583
'cause it's made me who I am
640
00:33:13,583 --> 00:33:15,458
and got me where I'm at
641
00:33:15,458 --> 00:33:17,750
and I didn't even know
I was on a rough road.
642
00:33:17,750 --> 00:33:20,041
You know,
just thought life's hard.
643
00:33:20,041 --> 00:33:22,875
- You know what I mean?
- ( airhorn blares )
644
00:33:26,625 --> 00:33:27,750
Taos.
645
00:33:31,250 --> 00:33:33,583
Yeah,
he's in our tribe.
646
00:33:33,583 --> 00:33:35,500
Well, part of it is,
he's very big
647
00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:38,417
and, you know,
he probably acted out
in school
648
00:33:38,417 --> 00:33:39,917
and did things
he shouldn't have
649
00:33:39,917 --> 00:33:41,667
and nobody said,
"Taos, what's wrong?
650
00:33:41,667 --> 00:33:43,333
Why are you doing this?"
651
00:33:43,333 --> 00:33:46,625
You know, I mean, now that
he's back with us,
652
00:33:46,625 --> 00:33:50,208
does wrong by me,
I sit him down.
653
00:33:50,208 --> 00:33:52,458
I say, "Taos,
why are you doing this?
654
00:33:52,458 --> 00:33:57,458
We're gonna have
to figure this out because
you're gonna get in trouble.
655
00:33:57,458 --> 00:34:03,417
And if you go away,
who's gonna... tend
to your family's graves?
656
00:34:03,417 --> 00:34:06,333
Who's gonna raise your son?"
( clears throat )
657
00:34:07,667 --> 00:34:12,709
You-- you cannot deal
with children
658
00:34:12,709 --> 00:34:18,125
if you don't have a sense
of kindness and respect
659
00:34:19,291 --> 00:34:20,959
and if you don't like 'em.
660
00:34:23,959 --> 00:34:27,375
And if you don't have systems
that like them,
661
00:34:27,375 --> 00:34:31,000
support them,
and stay with them.
662
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,959
I get mad at you,
so I throw you out of school?
663
00:34:34,959 --> 00:34:37,083
What is that? No!
664
00:34:38,834 --> 00:34:43,917
If I get mad at you,
then we need to come closer.
665
00:34:43,917 --> 00:34:45,875
You don't need
to be further.
666
00:34:45,875 --> 00:34:48,709
You did something wrong,
then you need to be closer.
667
00:34:48,709 --> 00:34:50,417
You don't need
to be further.
668
00:34:50,417 --> 00:34:54,000
If I think
I have something to offer,
then we need to come close.
669
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,125
We don't need
to be further.
670
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,834
- School-to-prison pipeline,
um...
- ( music playing )
671
00:35:02,834 --> 00:35:04,959
...well, our kids
aren't finishing school,
672
00:35:04,959 --> 00:35:07,917
they can't get jobs,
they try to make do,
they go to prison.
673
00:35:07,917 --> 00:35:10,250
That's what it is.
( clears throat )
674
00:35:10,250 --> 00:35:12,041
Part of it is discipline.
675
00:35:12,041 --> 00:35:14,542
We don't have
very good relationships
with those people.
676
00:35:16,834 --> 00:35:17,667
Non-Indians.
677
00:35:18,834 --> 00:35:19,667
Educators.
678
00:35:21,125 --> 00:35:23,667
The white people.
679
00:35:23,667 --> 00:35:28,333
Um, you know,
they see our tribal kids
as having behavioral problems
680
00:35:28,333 --> 00:35:31,458
and then they get...
suspended from school
681
00:35:31,458 --> 00:35:33,125
and then they get arrested
from school.
682
00:35:33,125 --> 00:35:34,959
We had
an 8-year-old in Klamath
683
00:35:34,959 --> 00:35:37,083
they were about
to put cuffs on.
684
00:35:37,083 --> 00:35:39,208
I mean, you cannot cuff
an 8-year-old.
685
00:35:39,208 --> 00:35:42,250
You just can't, it's stupid.
686
00:35:42,250 --> 00:35:44,458
If you have children
who are suffering
687
00:35:44,458 --> 00:35:47,208
to the extent
that they act out in school
688
00:35:47,208 --> 00:35:50,417
and do things
that they should not do,
689
00:35:50,417 --> 00:35:52,250
which could include
hitting a teacher,
690
00:35:52,250 --> 00:35:55,000
hitting another child,
having some kind of a fit.
691
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,041
And then they get
arrested at school
692
00:35:58,041 --> 00:36:01,041
( stutters )
or they get suspended
or they get expelled
693
00:36:01,041 --> 00:36:02,750
from school
and they get mad at somebody
694
00:36:02,750 --> 00:36:04,333
and they hit
a school resource officer.
695
00:36:04,333 --> 00:36:06,542
And then they get handcuffed,
then they go to jail
696
00:36:06,542 --> 00:36:08,333
or juvenile hall
or probation.
697
00:36:08,333 --> 00:36:10,417
And it just gets going
and it keeps on going
from there.
698
00:36:10,417 --> 00:36:12,750
And nobody says,
"Why is this kid doing this?"
You know?
699
00:36:12,750 --> 00:36:15,458
"What's wrong?"
Kids need grownups.
700
00:36:15,458 --> 00:36:17,333
It's the whole point
of having kids and grownups.
701
00:36:17,333 --> 00:36:19,667
If you don't have a couple
of good grownups at your side
702
00:36:19,667 --> 00:36:21,250
or ones who
could work the system,
703
00:36:21,250 --> 00:36:22,667
you can't-you can't make--
704
00:36:22,667 --> 00:36:24,709
you could go down,
you can't make it,
705
00:36:24,709 --> 00:36:27,583
you just can't,
and a lot of them
will go, "But for..."
706
00:36:27,583 --> 00:36:30,083
and, "I would be in a prison,"
and a lot of that
707
00:36:30,083 --> 00:36:31,583
has to do with somebody,
708
00:36:31,583 --> 00:36:34,667
a teacher, somebody,
who just reached out and said,
709
00:36:34,667 --> 00:36:36,917
"You know, you can do this.
It's gonna be okay.
710
00:36:36,917 --> 00:36:40,333
You're gonna be okay,
but you gotta stop
acting like this.
711
00:36:40,333 --> 00:36:42,083
You can't-- you can't run
from the cops.
712
00:36:42,083 --> 00:36:44,875
If you run from the cops,
the cops will chase you."
713
00:36:44,875 --> 00:36:45,917
Man!
714
00:36:47,250 --> 00:36:50,041
I mean, you know.
( scoffs )
715
00:36:51,583 --> 00:36:54,375
Did you see that...
716
00:36:54,375 --> 00:36:58,291
video of that
14-year-old girl in Texas?
717
00:36:58,291 --> 00:36:59,750
( distant chatter )
718
00:36:59,750 --> 00:37:01,625
Man:
Y'all keep standing there
running your mouths,
719
00:37:01,625 --> 00:37:02,875
you're gonna go too.
720
00:37:02,875 --> 00:37:04,458
Get out of here.
I already told you.
721
00:37:04,458 --> 00:37:05,959
( overlapping yelling )
722
00:37:07,750 --> 00:37:10,834
- Hey! Hey! Hey!
- ( overlapping yelling )
723
00:37:14,375 --> 00:37:16,000
( shouting continues )
724
00:37:20,166 --> 00:37:22,542
- Your ass on the ground
like I said!
- Call my mama!
725
00:37:22,542 --> 00:37:25,208
Call my mama, oh, my God!
726
00:37:25,208 --> 00:37:28,458
Get down.
On your face!
727
00:37:28,458 --> 00:37:31,333
( yelling )
Get off of me!
728
00:37:33,959 --> 00:37:35,875
Girl:
What is he doing?
What is he--?
729
00:37:35,875 --> 00:37:37,750
What the fuck is he doing?
730
00:37:37,750 --> 00:37:39,125
( girl crying )
731
00:37:39,125 --> 00:37:43,208
- Man #2: Let's go.
- Adrian, you good, bro?
732
00:37:43,208 --> 00:37:44,667
Adrian?
733
00:37:44,667 --> 00:37:46,959
I'm gonna tell you
one more time.
734
00:37:46,959 --> 00:37:49,583
Get your ass out of here!
735
00:37:49,583 --> 00:37:52,208
Y'all get
across the street!
736
00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:56,709
( music playing )
737
00:37:56,709 --> 00:37:58,667
She's screaming
for her mommy.
738
00:37:58,667 --> 00:38:00,709
"Mama, Mama,
I want my mama."
739
00:38:00,709 --> 00:38:02,041
She's in a bathing suit.
740
00:38:02,041 --> 00:38:03,583
What kind of a threat
is that?
741
00:38:03,583 --> 00:38:06,125
I mean, who does that
to a 14-year-old?
742
00:38:06,125 --> 00:38:09,583
- I think that--
I think we-- judges...
- ( woman murmurs )
743
00:38:09,583 --> 00:38:11,875
...fell asleep at the job.
744
00:38:11,875 --> 00:38:13,667
I mean, I think--
I think the problem is that
745
00:38:13,667 --> 00:38:16,542
nobody learned that justice
is what the law is about.
746
00:38:16,542 --> 00:38:18,041
I mean,
yes, you need rules.
747
00:38:18,041 --> 00:38:21,333
Every society needs rules,
of course, you know,
748
00:38:21,333 --> 00:38:25,542
but the whole point of having
a law or having a process
749
00:38:25,542 --> 00:38:29,291
or having a court
is to ensure fairness
750
00:38:29,291 --> 00:38:32,583
and right behavior
and justice.
751
00:38:32,583 --> 00:38:35,792
It's not about that anymore.
752
00:38:35,792 --> 00:38:39,000
Um, it's about money
753
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,875
and who has the power, too.
754
00:38:42,875 --> 00:38:45,166
I think
the country's broken.
755
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,458
Tony Eady:
I'm a Student
Concern Specialist
756
00:39:00,458 --> 00:39:02,792
here at North Charleston
High School,
757
00:39:02,792 --> 00:39:04,709
Charleston, South Carolina.
758
00:39:04,709 --> 00:39:08,834
And I used to work
in a-- in a maximum
security penitentiary.
759
00:39:08,834 --> 00:39:11,208
And I get a group of men
in there and I say,
760
00:39:11,208 --> 00:39:12,792
"You know, this is just
a rehearsal.
761
00:39:12,792 --> 00:39:15,125
This is"-- I say,
"When you always
762
00:39:15,125 --> 00:39:17,583
coming to ISS,
that means you can't deal
763
00:39:17,583 --> 00:39:19,750
with the public,
with society here at school."
764
00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:21,792
I say, "They always
send you here."
765
00:39:21,792 --> 00:39:23,542
I say, "That's a rehearsal."
766
00:39:23,542 --> 00:39:26,375
You know, I say
if you can't deal
with authority figures
767
00:39:26,375 --> 00:39:28,250
and people telling you
what to do,
768
00:39:28,250 --> 00:39:31,250
when you get out in society,
they're gonna send you
to jail.
769
00:39:31,250 --> 00:39:33,208
I call it a school jail.
"I'm not in no school jail."
770
00:39:33,208 --> 00:39:35,166
Yes, you are.
You're incarcerated
for this hour.
771
00:39:35,166 --> 00:39:36,458
You can't leave.
772
00:39:36,458 --> 00:39:38,041
And I'm a very strong figure
773
00:39:38,041 --> 00:39:40,291
in my house because
of what I see going on here.
774
00:39:40,291 --> 00:39:43,583
My son, 15 years old,
growing up in a house--
me and my wife,
775
00:39:43,583 --> 00:39:46,709
both educators,
and I know I have to keep
776
00:39:46,709 --> 00:39:49,250
a foot or a thumb
on his neck.
777
00:39:49,250 --> 00:39:52,458
'Cause he tends
to kind of drift, you know.
778
00:39:52,458 --> 00:39:55,625
I say something to him.
"What? What you want?"
779
00:39:57,500 --> 00:39:59,208
"Who you talking at?"
780
00:39:59,208 --> 00:40:03,125
And I know if I don't say that
every single time,
781
00:40:03,125 --> 00:40:05,834
it's gonna go way left
till where
782
00:40:05,834 --> 00:40:07,792
until he's telling me
what to do.
783
00:40:07,792 --> 00:40:09,417
And what people
don't understand
784
00:40:09,417 --> 00:40:11,291
who doesn't work
in this environment,
785
00:40:11,291 --> 00:40:15,458
most teenagers
are very, very defiant.
786
00:40:15,458 --> 00:40:16,959
Very, very, very defiant.
787
00:40:16,959 --> 00:40:18,792
And then people go,
you know, society says
788
00:40:18,792 --> 00:40:20,834
you can't touch them,
you can't grab them.
789
00:40:20,834 --> 00:40:23,583
The kids know that, so it
just gets more power
added to them.
790
00:40:23,583 --> 00:40:25,750
And then they don't want
to have the police officer
in the school.
791
00:40:25,750 --> 00:40:28,083
I need the police officer.
I need the police officer
for me.
792
00:40:28,083 --> 00:40:29,542
Police officer
our last line of defense.
793
00:40:29,542 --> 00:40:31,417
I need the police officer.
794
00:40:31,417 --> 00:40:33,333
I'm not saying
I think the police officer,
795
00:40:33,333 --> 00:40:34,750
you know,
grab kids and snatch kids
796
00:40:34,750 --> 00:40:36,583
and drag them
across the floor,
797
00:40:36,583 --> 00:40:38,834
but I need somebody to show
798
00:40:38,834 --> 00:40:42,291
these kids there is authority
in this school.
799
00:40:42,291 --> 00:40:44,417
And what I heard
a police officer,
800
00:40:44,417 --> 00:40:47,709
one of my good friends, say,
you know, most people--
801
00:40:47,709 --> 00:40:51,625
most people
get incarcerated...
802
00:40:51,625 --> 00:40:53,667
'cause of their mouth.
803
00:40:53,667 --> 00:40:55,125
What they say
804
00:40:55,125 --> 00:40:57,000
when they're approached by
authority figures.
805
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,667
"Get out the car."
"What you mean I got
to get out the car?"
806
00:40:59,667 --> 00:41:01,083
Then they do
get out the car.
807
00:41:01,083 --> 00:41:03,166
"What's up, man?
Why you stopping me?"
808
00:41:03,166 --> 00:41:06,750
And then they call for backup
and more coming,
so I don't know.
809
00:41:06,750 --> 00:41:11,250
( laughing )
But sometimes I ask God
why am I still here?
810
00:41:11,250 --> 00:41:13,834
You know, I--
it must be because I'm needed.
811
00:41:13,834 --> 00:41:15,667
But a constant fight
every day trying to get
812
00:41:15,667 --> 00:41:16,875
these kids
to do the right thing.
813
00:41:16,875 --> 00:41:20,250
And it wears on me,
the disrespect.
814
00:41:20,250 --> 00:41:24,000
And I have stood between
these kids and Mr. Grimm,
815
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,375
the principal,
when he's talked to them.
816
00:41:26,375 --> 00:41:31,291
You know, and I can see where
it's going the wrong way
and I have to intercept.
817
00:41:31,291 --> 00:41:33,667
( stutters )
I'll tell you.
818
00:41:33,667 --> 00:41:36,875
Kid got put out
of class for a cell phone.
819
00:41:36,875 --> 00:41:38,500
Oh, that's another thing.
820
00:41:40,208 --> 00:41:45,750
These kids rather go to jail
than give up their cell phone.
821
00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:48,959
And I'm standing out
in the hall with the kid.
822
00:41:48,959 --> 00:41:52,542
Mr. Grimm walks up
because he hears the call.
"What's the problem?"
823
00:41:52,542 --> 00:41:58,083
I said, "Well, Mr. Grimm,
uh, he refused to give
his cell phone up,
824
00:41:58,083 --> 00:41:59,583
but I have it now."
825
00:41:59,583 --> 00:42:02,291
And the kid, he say,
"Yeah, you may have it now,
826
00:42:02,291 --> 00:42:04,250
but I'm getting
my phone back!"
827
00:42:04,250 --> 00:42:07,917
Mr. Grimm say, "Excuse me?"
828
00:42:07,917 --> 00:42:10,208
Kid say,
"You heard what I said."
829
00:42:10,208 --> 00:42:11,875
And now,
I have to intercept
830
00:42:11,875 --> 00:42:13,917
'cause now you challenging
the authority figure.
831
00:42:13,917 --> 00:42:15,208
The bigger
top authority figure.
832
00:42:15,208 --> 00:42:16,625
Well, I know
where it's going,
833
00:42:16,625 --> 00:42:17,917
'cause Mr. Grimm
is not gonna let him
834
00:42:17,917 --> 00:42:19,083
talk to him like that.
835
00:42:19,083 --> 00:42:20,250
And Mr. Grimm will probably
836
00:42:20,250 --> 00:42:21,250
respond with something like,
837
00:42:21,250 --> 00:42:22,875
"Oh, well, I'm gonna--
838
00:42:22,875 --> 00:42:24,166
I'm gonna get your phone
839
00:42:24,166 --> 00:42:25,500
and I'm gonna keep
your phone."
840
00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:27,083
And then the kid
will probably go, "No!"
841
00:42:27,083 --> 00:42:28,792
Probably reach for the phone,
step for the phone.
842
00:42:28,792 --> 00:42:29,834
( grunts )
Try to get it.
843
00:42:31,625 --> 00:42:33,125
And it's going from
you're just giving up
844
00:42:33,125 --> 00:42:36,625
your phone,
getting it back next period.
845
00:42:36,625 --> 00:42:40,959
Now you're not
getting your phone,
getting arrested,
846
00:42:40,959 --> 00:42:44,458
being suspended,
maybe up for expulsion...
847
00:42:45,959 --> 00:42:47,834
all because of your mouth.
848
00:42:54,875 --> 00:42:57,166
Man:
Hands behind your back.
Give me your hands.
849
00:42:57,166 --> 00:42:58,917
Amanda Ripley:
Niya Kenny.
850
00:43:00,959 --> 00:43:04,125
She's the oldest girl
in the class.
851
00:43:04,125 --> 00:43:06,166
So she's sitting there
in her Algebra I class
852
00:43:06,166 --> 00:43:09,417
that she failed
as a freshman--
need to pass to graduate.
853
00:43:09,417 --> 00:43:11,667
She's doing well
in that class, actually.
854
00:43:11,667 --> 00:43:14,000
So 18-year-old
African-American girl,
855
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,333
she got an "A" average.
856
00:43:16,333 --> 00:43:18,500
And she sees the teacher,
Mr. Long,
857
00:43:18,500 --> 00:43:21,875
who's a veteran math teacher
at the school-- white man--
858
00:43:21,875 --> 00:43:25,875
whispers something to one
of the other kids
in the class-- a girl.
859
00:43:25,875 --> 00:43:28,000
Who doesn't-- she doesn't--
Niya doesn't know her name.
860
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,417
She doesn't talk much.
She's new to the class,
this girl.
861
00:43:30,417 --> 00:43:33,834
Shakara, as it turns out.
862
00:43:33,834 --> 00:43:36,333
And Niya sees Mr. Long
go back to his desk
863
00:43:36,333 --> 00:43:37,750
and pick up the phone
and call someone
864
00:43:37,750 --> 00:43:40,291
to escort someone out
of the classroom.
865
00:43:40,291 --> 00:43:43,166
And so, she turns to Shakara
and says, "You?
866
00:43:43,166 --> 00:43:44,667
( whispers )
Is that for you?"
867
00:43:44,667 --> 00:43:47,709
Like, she mouths
and Shakara nods.
868
00:43:47,709 --> 00:43:49,542
And Niya thinks,
"Well, that's strange."
869
00:43:49,542 --> 00:43:51,250
Because she didn't--
I guess-- apparently,
870
00:43:51,250 --> 00:43:52,542
Shakara had
taken out her phone.
871
00:43:52,542 --> 00:43:53,542
Sometimes at that school,
872
00:43:53,542 --> 00:43:54,542
if you take out your phone,
873
00:43:54,542 --> 00:43:55,583
they take it for the day.
874
00:43:55,583 --> 00:43:56,709
It's pretty routine policy.
875
00:43:56,709 --> 00:43:57,834
So for whatever reason
876
00:43:57,834 --> 00:43:59,208
that we still don't know,
877
00:43:59,208 --> 00:44:01,250
Shakara got in trouble
with this teacher
878
00:44:01,250 --> 00:44:04,542
and he called
the assistant principal,
Mr. Webb,
879
00:44:04,542 --> 00:44:07,000
who came, and according to Niya
he said,
880
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,375
"Come with me,"
or something to that effect,
and Shakara declined to come.
881
00:44:11,375 --> 00:44:13,083
And then, according to Niya,
882
00:44:13,083 --> 00:44:14,709
he said something
to the effect of
883
00:44:14,709 --> 00:44:16,333
"I ain't got time to play
with y'all today,"
884
00:44:16,333 --> 00:44:18,542
and he turned around
and he left.
885
00:44:18,542 --> 00:44:20,250
Black man.
886
00:44:20,250 --> 00:44:23,166
And he came back
with Deputy Fields,
who's sort of large,
887
00:44:23,166 --> 00:44:28,083
hulking white police officer
who's also a football coach
at the school.
888
00:44:28,083 --> 00:44:29,542
And Niya said
when she saw him,
889
00:44:29,542 --> 00:44:31,208
she turned to the boy
sitting next to her
890
00:44:31,208 --> 00:44:32,834
and said,
"Take out your phone,"
and she took out
891
00:44:32,834 --> 00:44:34,166
her phone too
because she had a feeling.
892
00:44:34,166 --> 00:44:35,792
She heard stories
about this guy.
893
00:44:35,792 --> 00:44:39,000
She had a feeling he might
do something...
894
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,583
worthy
of being videotaped.
895
00:44:41,583 --> 00:44:43,959
( clears throat )
And you saw the video.
896
00:44:43,959 --> 00:44:46,417
He told Shakara
to come with him.
897
00:44:46,417 --> 00:44:49,250
She wouldn't come
and so he tried to extract her
898
00:44:49,250 --> 00:44:52,083
from the chair
rather violently.
899
00:44:52,083 --> 00:44:54,917
And then eventually,
he did extract her
from the chair.
900
00:44:54,917 --> 00:44:57,250
And Niya
is videotaping this,
901
00:44:57,250 --> 00:45:01,083
and she's becoming
more and more distraught.
902
00:45:01,083 --> 00:45:03,792
"Oh, well,
they was wrestling,
903
00:45:03,792 --> 00:45:08,375
um, on the floor
for, like, a minute.
904
00:45:08,375 --> 00:45:11,750
That's what I thought, too.
She must be strong.
905
00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:15,000
'Cause, you know,
we talking about
a 9th-grader
906
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,959
and he's
a 300-pound bodybuilder.
907
00:45:18,959 --> 00:45:24,291
But I was, like, you know,
I was like, 'Is-- is nobody
gonna help her?
908
00:45:24,291 --> 00:45:27,625
Somebody record this!
Put it on Snapchat!'
909
00:45:27,625 --> 00:45:29,291
And then I'm asking
Mr. Webb and Mr. Long,
910
00:45:29,291 --> 00:45:30,875
I'm like,
'Look-- what-- it--
911
00:45:30,875 --> 00:45:32,875
And then I turned to Mr. Long
and I was just like,
912
00:45:32,875 --> 00:45:34,959
'Look, you did this.
Like, what are you
going to do?'
913
00:45:34,959 --> 00:45:36,959
I said, 'You didn't even have
to call the administrator.'
914
00:45:36,959 --> 00:45:41,250
And I was just like"--
( deep breath )
915
00:45:41,250 --> 00:45:44,792
And then she said,
"What the fuck?"
916
00:45:46,792 --> 00:45:50,000
What the fuck?
And the assistant principal's
like, "Niya, Niya."
917
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,500
He's trying to calm her down.
She won't be calmed down.
918
00:45:52,500 --> 00:45:54,834
And then, we don't know
exactly what happened next,
919
00:45:54,834 --> 00:45:57,166
but according to Niya,
Deputy Fields turned to her
920
00:45:57,166 --> 00:46:01,000
and said,
"You got so much to say?
921
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,333
'Cause you're coming next."
922
00:46:02,333 --> 00:46:03,917
And so then he comes back--
923
00:46:03,917 --> 00:46:05,125
he takes Shakara
out of the room
924
00:46:05,125 --> 00:46:06,875
and he comes back
and now Niya
925
00:46:06,875 --> 00:46:08,208
has become
completely passive
926
00:46:08,208 --> 00:46:10,041
because she knows
he's not joking.
927
00:46:10,041 --> 00:46:12,458
And she stands up
and she puts her hands
928
00:46:12,458 --> 00:46:15,542
behind her back
and he handcuffs her.
929
00:46:15,542 --> 00:46:19,667
And he takes her to the room
where Shakara is,
930
00:46:19,667 --> 00:46:24,375
and according to Niya,
Shakara is leaning forward,
931
00:46:24,375 --> 00:46:27,208
she's still handcuffed,
and her braids
932
00:46:27,208 --> 00:46:28,834
are falling in her face.
933
00:46:28,834 --> 00:46:33,166
And then, according to Niya,
Deputy Fields flips the braids
934
00:46:33,166 --> 00:46:36,166
out of Shakara's face
and he says,
935
00:46:36,166 --> 00:46:38,208
"Did you take
your meds today?"
936
00:46:38,208 --> 00:46:41,750
( audience murmurs )
937
00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:44,875
And she says...
it's the first thing
938
00:46:44,875 --> 00:46:48,750
she says--
she finally speaks.
939
00:46:48,750 --> 00:46:52,208
She says, "Yes, did you?"
940
00:46:52,208 --> 00:46:53,667
( audience laughs )
941
00:46:53,667 --> 00:46:55,166
Which I thought was great.
942
00:46:55,166 --> 00:46:56,875
It's great,
just great teenage response.
943
00:46:56,875 --> 00:47:00,917
Perfect. So, um, Shakara
is apparently released
944
00:47:00,917 --> 00:47:02,375
to the care of a guardian.
945
00:47:02,375 --> 00:47:05,542
She's a foster child.
Not sure which guardian.
946
00:47:05,542 --> 00:47:09,542
But Niya Kenny is 18,
so she's considered an adult
947
00:47:09,542 --> 00:47:14,375
and they take her
to a detention facility--
an adult jail.
948
00:47:14,375 --> 00:47:19,583
I'm just, like, you know,
I'm embarrassing my mom.
949
00:47:19,583 --> 00:47:22,291
She's gonna be mad.
She's gonna kill me.
950
00:47:22,291 --> 00:47:24,542
That's the only person
I would think about--
Mom, Mom, Mom.
951
00:47:24,542 --> 00:47:27,542
I was like, "Oh, God,
I'm gonna get out
of this jail.
952
00:47:27,542 --> 00:47:30,250
She gonna beat me up
right in the yard."
953
00:47:32,333 --> 00:47:34,583
Oh, the people in the jail,
they was, um...
954
00:47:34,583 --> 00:47:36,333
they was like
normal people to me.
955
00:47:36,333 --> 00:47:37,750
They was nice.
956
00:47:37,750 --> 00:47:41,500
But, um, the video
came on the news,
957
00:47:41,500 --> 00:47:45,917
and everybody-- everybody
in the jail was like, "What?"
958
00:47:45,917 --> 00:47:48,583
Everybody.
Everybody was like, "What?
959
00:47:48,583 --> 00:47:50,458
He threw that little girl
like that?
960
00:47:50,458 --> 00:47:53,917
What? He threw
that little girl like that
and you was in there?
961
00:47:53,917 --> 00:47:56,417
Oh, girl, you going home.
You going home."
962
00:47:56,417 --> 00:47:58,583
Soon as I saw that video,
I was like-- ( gasps )
963
00:47:58,583 --> 00:48:00,333
"I know my mom saw it.
I know she saw it."
964
00:48:00,333 --> 00:48:02,000
Soon as I saw that video,
I was like, "Whew, I'm not
965
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,458
in trouble anymore,
I'm not in trouble."
966
00:48:04,458 --> 00:48:07,750
And so I call my mom
and my mom was like,
"Niya, you don't even know.
967
00:48:07,750 --> 00:48:11,375
The news is out here.
They want to interview you.
968
00:48:11,375 --> 00:48:12,583
'Good Morning America'
969
00:48:12,583 --> 00:48:15,458
is coming
to the house tonight."
970
00:48:15,458 --> 00:48:18,125
But I don't know
what it is, you know,
971
00:48:18,125 --> 00:48:23,417
I guess I just snap when
I see people being mistreated,
I guess.
972
00:48:23,417 --> 00:48:25,375
I mean, I'm talking about
elementary school.
973
00:48:25,375 --> 00:48:27,500
I remember one time
in 3rd grade,
974
00:48:27,500 --> 00:48:30,041
a friend of mine
was being bad in class
975
00:48:30,041 --> 00:48:32,458
and a teacher--
( whispers ) she was
a white lady--
976
00:48:32,458 --> 00:48:33,875
because I knew about racism
977
00:48:33,875 --> 00:48:35,291
because my dad
had always taught his kids,
978
00:48:35,291 --> 00:48:36,625
like, ever since
we were in kindergarten
979
00:48:36,625 --> 00:48:39,750
about racism-- like,
know your history.
980
00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:45,166
And she picked up this boy
by his cheek out the chair.
981
00:48:45,166 --> 00:48:47,875
And I lost it.
I lost it-- I lost it
in the classroom.
982
00:48:47,875 --> 00:48:50,667
I was like,
"You are not his mom!
You can't touch him like that!
983
00:48:50,667 --> 00:48:52,667
That is not your job.
Your job is to teach us.
984
00:48:52,667 --> 00:48:56,750
You do not pick up a student
by his cheek out the chair!"
985
00:48:56,750 --> 00:49:00,000
Yeah, I was really mad.
I was really mad.
986
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,333
And, you know, she wrote me up
for being disrespectful,
987
00:49:03,333 --> 00:49:07,291
for being belligerent,
and that was my first
after-school detention.
988
00:49:07,291 --> 00:49:11,166
But I knew when
the high school called my mom,
989
00:49:11,166 --> 00:49:14,625
that they was gonna be like,
"Niya got in something
990
00:49:14,625 --> 00:49:16,166
that didn't involve her."
991
00:49:16,166 --> 00:49:17,667
That's exactly
what they did.
992
00:49:17,667 --> 00:49:20,667
And I knew that my mom--
I knew her mindset would be,
993
00:49:20,667 --> 00:49:23,834
"Oh, Niya,
why didn't you be quiet?"
994
00:49:23,834 --> 00:49:27,166
'Cause that's the response
I got in 3rd grade.
995
00:49:27,166 --> 00:49:29,166
"Mind your business.
996
00:49:29,166 --> 00:49:32,291
This doesn't have nothing
to do with you."
997
00:49:32,291 --> 00:49:38,375
But he just
threw a whole girl...
across the classroom.
998
00:49:38,375 --> 00:49:41,083
How could you mind
your business?
999
00:49:41,083 --> 00:49:44,709
That's something you need
to make your business.
1000
00:49:46,208 --> 00:49:47,917
( music playing )
1001
00:50:00,542 --> 00:50:03,375
But it's, I think,
1002
00:50:03,375 --> 00:50:06,792
how you raise your kids.
1003
00:50:06,792 --> 00:50:10,417
What they see
around the family.
1004
00:50:10,417 --> 00:50:15,166
And I never heard
too much about drugs
at that time.
1005
00:50:15,166 --> 00:50:20,917
It was all about
wearing baggy pants
and you start being in gangs.
1006
00:50:20,917 --> 00:50:24,250
That's what I was worried.
1007
00:50:24,250 --> 00:50:27,750
Oh, I don't see nothing
in those pants.
1008
00:50:27,750 --> 00:50:31,166
All I see is butts
all the time.
1009
00:50:31,166 --> 00:50:34,125
- You could see the underwear!
- ( chuckles )
1010
00:50:34,125 --> 00:50:37,417
I don't have
the slighty idea
1011
00:50:37,417 --> 00:50:41,583
why the kids do it.
1012
00:50:41,583 --> 00:50:44,208
You know, I don't think
my kids never did that.
1013
00:50:44,208 --> 00:50:45,625
And I don't think
I would let it--
1014
00:50:45,625 --> 00:50:47,542
I don't think
I would let them.
1015
00:50:47,542 --> 00:50:50,000
No, I would rip
every single pant.
1016
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,083
Knowing myself,
I would do it.
1017
00:50:52,083 --> 00:50:55,000
But one of the parents told me
that my kids
1018
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,250
were coming to their home
and change to baggy pants.
1019
00:50:58,250 --> 00:51:00,667
- Mmm.
- And I became
very good friends
1020
00:51:00,667 --> 00:51:04,500
with those parents
and we all used
to communicate.
1021
00:51:04,500 --> 00:51:05,875
I think that's the key.
1022
00:51:05,875 --> 00:51:07,667
One of the mothers
are the one
1023
00:51:07,667 --> 00:51:11,250
who told me that my kids
were wearing baggy pants.
1024
00:51:11,250 --> 00:51:13,458
And that's when
I went to school.
1025
00:51:13,458 --> 00:51:18,917
I say-- I say,
"What are you doing
to those pants?"
1026
00:51:18,917 --> 00:51:23,375
Or I say, "How are you doing
to those pants?"
1027
00:51:23,375 --> 00:51:26,583
They say, "Oh, Mom,
they are my friends.
1028
00:51:26,583 --> 00:51:29,500
Come on,
don't make me embarrassed
here at school."
1029
00:51:29,500 --> 00:51:30,834
I say, "Okay.
1030
00:51:30,834 --> 00:51:32,625
We're gonna talk
when we get home."
1031
00:51:32,625 --> 00:51:37,375
We talking, I say, "Okay.
I'm gonna meet you halfway.
1032
00:51:37,375 --> 00:51:41,291
- Not that baggy,
a little bit loose."
- ( laughs )
1033
00:51:41,291 --> 00:51:45,166
"But I don't want you
to be going to nobody's house
and change."
1034
00:51:45,166 --> 00:51:49,834
- Mm-mm.
- And I think I was
a very strict mother.
1035
00:51:49,834 --> 00:51:54,625
Anything involving my kids,
I was very involved.
1036
00:51:54,625 --> 00:51:57,333
I used to even go
1037
00:51:57,333 --> 00:52:02,583
at nighttime and smell them.
1038
00:52:02,583 --> 00:52:05,625
Yes, oh, yes, yes,
1039
00:52:05,625 --> 00:52:09,250
to see if they were not
drinking or smoking.
1040
00:52:09,250 --> 00:52:11,375
Oh, yes,
I did so many things
1041
00:52:11,375 --> 00:52:12,709
to keep my kids
out of trouble,
1042
00:52:12,709 --> 00:52:14,917
and thanks to the Lord,
I think I did a good job.
1043
00:52:14,917 --> 00:52:18,458
- Mmm.
- But I had to move
from Vallejo.
1044
00:52:18,458 --> 00:52:20,875
I said
I had to move from here.
1045
00:52:20,875 --> 00:52:22,709
I didn't want none
of my kids to go to jail.
1046
00:52:22,709 --> 00:52:25,291
You see so many things
on the news.
1047
00:52:25,291 --> 00:52:26,917
I didn't want that
for my kids.
1048
00:52:26,917 --> 00:52:32,417
Not for my family.
Who wants that? Nobody.
1049
00:52:32,417 --> 00:52:35,667
- ♪ Oh, I want my mama ♪
- ( music playing )
1050
00:52:41,667 --> 00:52:45,875
♪ Gotta keep climbin', yeah ♪
1051
00:52:47,875 --> 00:52:51,917
- ( cell door shuts )
- ♪ Gotta keep praying... ♪
1052
00:52:55,208 --> 00:53:00,041
Well, um...
this experience...
1053
00:53:01,792 --> 00:53:05,333
of being, uh,
in college here,
1054
00:53:05,333 --> 00:53:10,750
uh, at the Maryland
Correctional Institute
1055
00:53:10,750 --> 00:53:15,917
has showed me
that I missed out on a lot.
1056
00:53:15,917 --> 00:53:19,250
A lot of information
1057
00:53:19,250 --> 00:53:23,583
that could've helped me
make better decisions.
1058
00:53:23,583 --> 00:53:28,041
I tended to gravitate
towards my environment
1059
00:53:28,041 --> 00:53:30,750
versus reaching out
past the environment.
1060
00:53:30,750 --> 00:53:35,959
And I started believing that
that was it and that was all.
1061
00:53:35,959 --> 00:53:41,583
Um, and that the only thing
required of me
1062
00:53:41,583 --> 00:53:45,000
was for me,
which was basically
1063
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,625
to feed myself
and the baby I was carrying
1064
00:53:48,625 --> 00:53:52,125
and that everything was me.
1065
00:53:52,125 --> 00:53:55,291
It was never, like,
the next door neighbor
1066
00:53:55,291 --> 00:53:57,750
could've been going through
the same thing.
1067
00:53:57,750 --> 00:54:02,125
I didn't have
enough information to know
1068
00:54:02,125 --> 00:54:07,291
that we are all
really connected somehow
1069
00:54:07,291 --> 00:54:10,834
to every living,
breathing thing,
1070
00:54:10,834 --> 00:54:13,625
we're all really connected.
1071
00:54:13,625 --> 00:54:15,917
I've learned how
the government work.
1072
00:54:15,917 --> 00:54:19,417
Uh, I didn't get that,
you know, like,
1073
00:54:19,417 --> 00:54:23,500
what was the governor for
or what was the mayor for.
1074
00:54:23,500 --> 00:54:26,166
Uh, I don't get it.
I don't understand.
1075
00:54:26,166 --> 00:54:28,875
I understand that
they are important people,
1076
00:54:28,875 --> 00:54:31,166
but to what degree
of importance?
1077
00:54:31,166 --> 00:54:33,542
What are they
actually there for?
1078
00:54:33,542 --> 00:54:39,208
And to get that now,
as a grown woman? Whoa!
1079
00:54:39,208 --> 00:54:42,583
And finding out
what this world
is really all about,
1080
00:54:42,583 --> 00:54:45,125
how it revolves,
1081
00:54:45,125 --> 00:54:49,041
and what is expected
of me as a citizen.
1082
00:54:52,166 --> 00:54:54,583
Basically, to, um...
1083
00:54:54,583 --> 00:54:56,625
( sucks teeth )
1084
00:54:56,625 --> 00:55:00,125
pave the way
for those coming behind us.
1085
00:55:00,125 --> 00:55:04,458
Um, to make better
living arrangements
1086
00:55:04,458 --> 00:55:08,166
for everybody as a whole.
1087
00:55:08,166 --> 00:55:10,667
'Cause in the end,
it's about living
1088
00:55:10,667 --> 00:55:13,625
and it's about
living properly
1089
00:55:13,625 --> 00:55:17,875
and it's about rearing
your children properly,
1090
00:55:17,875 --> 00:55:21,542
so that
they can be productive
1091
00:55:21,542 --> 00:55:25,542
and not be barbaric,
basically.
1092
00:55:26,625 --> 00:55:30,500
Um, I had six children;
1093
00:55:30,500 --> 00:55:34,375
now I have five.
1094
00:55:34,375 --> 00:55:37,917
One of them died
since I've been here.
1095
00:55:37,917 --> 00:55:42,083
The oldest being 34,
the youngest being 21.
1096
00:55:42,083 --> 00:55:47,625
I had my youngest child
when I was in a Baltimore
detention center.
1097
00:55:47,625 --> 00:55:51,959
I been here 23 years.
1098
00:55:51,959 --> 00:55:57,333
Well, um... my boyfriend--
1099
00:55:57,333 --> 00:56:01,417
my former boyfriend,
'cause we wasn't together
at the time--
1100
00:56:01,417 --> 00:56:04,083
shot and killed a guy
who tried to rape me.
1101
00:56:06,625 --> 00:56:08,417
Well, they didn't
consider it accomplice.
1102
00:56:08,417 --> 00:56:12,083
I got
the same charge as he did--
first-degree murder.
1103
00:56:17,250 --> 00:56:20,625
I think it's fair.
1104
00:56:20,625 --> 00:56:25,125
You talking about
somebody's life,
um-- ( coughs )
1105
00:56:33,500 --> 00:56:35,166
Whether--
( clears throat )
1106
00:56:40,750 --> 00:56:44,625
Whether it's in--
in your control or not,
1107
00:56:44,625 --> 00:56:46,542
somebody's life
has been taken,
1108
00:56:46,542 --> 00:56:49,083
so I do think it's fair.
1109
00:56:51,583 --> 00:56:55,792
Uh, but I think that if I had
had a better education,
1110
00:56:55,792 --> 00:56:57,750
I would've been more upright,
so to speak.
1111
00:56:57,750 --> 00:57:03,625
Um, you know, because
without that education,
I always felt less than.
1112
00:57:03,625 --> 00:57:06,291
And I think if I had
had that education,
1113
00:57:06,291 --> 00:57:11,500
I would've known that, um...
I am somebody.
1114
00:57:11,500 --> 00:57:13,458
I am a good person.
1115
00:57:13,458 --> 00:57:16,959
Um, but now I have a purpose
now that
1116
00:57:16,959 --> 00:57:19,542
I'm raising dogs here
at this institution
1117
00:57:19,542 --> 00:57:24,458
and, um, training them
to go and help people
who have disabilities.
1118
00:57:24,458 --> 00:57:27,959
It's my way
of expressing love
to people who need--
1119
00:57:27,959 --> 00:57:30,458
who really need
somebody or something,
1120
00:57:30,458 --> 00:57:34,166
because, um, you know,
it's a lot of people
1121
00:57:34,166 --> 00:57:37,917
who are alone or whatever,
and I get a chance
1122
00:57:37,917 --> 00:57:42,542
to express that love
through the dogs that I train.
1123
00:57:42,542 --> 00:57:44,291
Yes, I will.
1124
00:57:44,291 --> 00:57:46,959
I-- yes,
I'm gonna go that far.
1125
00:57:46,959 --> 00:57:50,041
Yes, I will.
( laughing ) I will.
1126
00:57:50,041 --> 00:57:53,750
Um, dogs have more empathy
than people.
1127
00:57:53,750 --> 00:57:57,083
( laughing )
Because, I mean,
1128
00:57:57,083 --> 00:57:59,291
you know, I'm not saying
that people are just,
1129
00:57:59,291 --> 00:58:02,875
you know, gonna ignore you
or totally, like, don't care,
1130
00:58:02,875 --> 00:58:07,959
but they not gonna reach out
and, you know, give you a hug.
1131
00:58:07,959 --> 00:58:10,083
"Oh, you be a'ight."
1132
00:58:12,166 --> 00:58:13,667
But the dog is so different.
1133
00:58:13,667 --> 00:58:16,291
She'll jump on me,
roll around on the floor.
1134
00:58:16,291 --> 00:58:19,375
You know, lick me,
try to get me to play with her
1135
00:58:19,375 --> 00:58:21,667
and then
I'd be like, "Okay."
1136
00:58:21,667 --> 00:58:23,417
You know,
get myself together
1137
00:58:23,417 --> 00:58:26,792
and try to think about how
I'm gonna move through this.
1138
00:58:26,792 --> 00:58:31,625
They're being taught,
and it's constant,
all day, every day.
1139
00:58:31,625 --> 00:58:34,875
It's teaching them
and praising them
1140
00:58:34,875 --> 00:58:37,583
and letting them know
they're doing the right thing
1141
00:58:37,583 --> 00:58:43,375
and... we get
really good results.
1142
00:58:43,375 --> 00:58:47,250
Out of 100 dogs,
89 are gonna make it.
1143
00:58:47,250 --> 00:58:49,750
- ( school bell rings )
- ( music playing )
1144
00:58:49,750 --> 00:58:51,875
( kids chattering )
1145
00:58:51,875 --> 00:58:54,125
It was...
1146
00:58:54,125 --> 00:58:56,333
Huey Elementary School,
1147
00:58:56,333 --> 00:58:59,750
and it-- it was...
1148
00:58:59,750 --> 00:59:03,375
( groans ) ohh...
it was rough.
1149
00:59:04,959 --> 00:59:09,458
I never knew
how bad a situation could be
1150
00:59:09,458 --> 00:59:11,709
until I worked
with that population.
1151
00:59:11,709 --> 00:59:17,125
You have 10 of the most
needy children
1152
00:59:17,125 --> 00:59:21,125
who need food, clothes,
1153
00:59:21,125 --> 00:59:25,458
love, shelter,
like, an education.
1154
00:59:25,458 --> 00:59:28,750
They just need so much,
and you're just one person.
1155
00:59:28,750 --> 00:59:31,709
And ( stutters ) it--
I felt hopeless.
1156
00:59:31,709 --> 00:59:34,333
I felt hopeless
in the situation.
1157
00:59:34,333 --> 00:59:38,458
I felt like I had
a whole bunch of starving,
hungry people
1158
00:59:38,458 --> 00:59:40,917
and I had nothing in my hands
to give them,
1159
00:59:40,917 --> 00:59:43,417
even though I tried
to give them so much.
1160
00:59:43,417 --> 00:59:46,458
But they had seen so much
of life, so much rough stuff,
1161
00:59:46,458 --> 00:59:48,250
that they were like,
"What's school?"
1162
00:59:48,250 --> 00:59:50,667
You know what I mean?
I got 7th graders
smoking weed.
1163
00:59:50,667 --> 00:59:52,166
"What's school?"
1164
00:59:52,166 --> 00:59:54,458
I got 7th graders
out all hours of the night.
1165
00:59:54,458 --> 00:59:57,333
How am I gonna keep
them in the classroom,
incentivizing them?
1166
00:59:57,333 --> 00:59:59,667
And I spent so much time
with my heart racing
1167
00:59:59,667 --> 01:00:01,083
because there were
so many fights
1168
01:00:01,083 --> 01:00:02,667
that would just
spontaneously start to fight.
1169
01:00:02,667 --> 01:00:04,250
"Bitch, what the fuck
you looking at?
1170
01:00:04,250 --> 01:00:06,125
Bitch, I'll fuck you up!"
No one said it to me,
1171
01:00:06,125 --> 01:00:08,125
they said it
to each other, but there goes
my heart racing.
1172
01:00:08,125 --> 01:00:10,291
And I don't wanna-- I ran--
I ran that classroom.
1173
01:00:10,291 --> 01:00:11,792
I ran a tight ship.
1174
01:00:11,792 --> 01:00:15,083
There was never--
I broke everything up.
1175
01:00:15,083 --> 01:00:17,500
And it got to the point
the people would be like--
1176
01:00:17,500 --> 01:00:19,375
like, a new kid would come in
and they be like,
1177
01:00:19,375 --> 01:00:21,166
"Don't mess with Ms. Williams,
she'll tear you up.
1178
01:00:21,166 --> 01:00:23,000
Don't fuck with her.
You better leave her alone."
1179
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,709
Whatever.
1180
01:00:24,709 --> 01:00:28,417
But it's hard to be that strong
day in and day out.
1181
01:00:28,417 --> 01:00:30,583
It really is.
1182
01:00:30,583 --> 01:00:33,959
It was like being...
1183
01:00:33,959 --> 01:00:37,750
it was like being in jail
without a gun.
1184
01:00:37,750 --> 01:00:40,250
It was like...
me running a jail
without a gun.
1185
01:00:40,250 --> 01:00:45,041
That's what it was like.
Running a jail without a gun.
1186
01:00:45,041 --> 01:00:46,250
Everybody for themselves,
1187
01:00:46,250 --> 01:00:47,709
but I want you
to maintain order.
1188
01:00:47,709 --> 01:00:49,542
No guns, no handcuffs,
no billy clubs,
1189
01:00:49,542 --> 01:00:50,667
I can't throw you
in the closet,
1190
01:00:50,667 --> 01:00:52,083
I can't do any of that.
1191
01:00:52,083 --> 01:00:55,583
I gotta keep you in order
just by me being me.
1192
01:00:55,583 --> 01:00:59,792
I had this one student
who was, um, uh,
1193
01:00:59,792 --> 01:01:03,709
( sighs )
he was a foster child.
1194
01:01:03,709 --> 01:01:07,000
And his parents
were addicted to drugs
1195
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,458
and he got very sick
as a baby,
1196
01:01:08,458 --> 01:01:10,291
so they took him
to the hospital
1197
01:01:10,291 --> 01:01:11,875
and they found out
he was being molested,
1198
01:01:11,875 --> 01:01:15,125
so they immediately put him
in another foster home.
1199
01:01:15,125 --> 01:01:16,875
I think his father
was molesting him.
1200
01:01:16,875 --> 01:01:19,250
So he showed symptoms
of being molested
1201
01:01:19,250 --> 01:01:21,750
and being addicted to drugs
as a baby.
1202
01:01:21,750 --> 01:01:25,417
And he would have these fits
of-- I mean, complete rage.
1203
01:01:25,417 --> 01:01:26,959
Docile any other time.
1204
01:01:26,959 --> 01:01:30,417
I'm talking about zero
to a million in a second.
1205
01:01:30,417 --> 01:01:35,250
I have never seen
an 11-year-old pull a tree
out of the ground.
1206
01:01:35,250 --> 01:01:39,417
Out the ground.
So angry he could actually
pull a tree out of the ground.
1207
01:01:39,417 --> 01:01:42,709
So angry
he could take a whole table
and turn it over.
1208
01:01:42,709 --> 01:01:48,417
How I met him?
I met him, um--
it was my first week at Huey.
1209
01:01:48,417 --> 01:01:50,041
And I hear
somebody screaming,
1210
01:01:50,041 --> 01:01:51,834
like this
bloodcurdling scream.
1211
01:01:51,834 --> 01:01:55,041
And I see somebody running
through the halls.
1212
01:01:55,041 --> 01:01:57,792
It's kind of like
a slow running kind of run
like this.
1213
01:01:57,792 --> 01:02:00,959
And he's just, like,
pouring sweat,
1214
01:02:00,959 --> 01:02:03,333
just, like,
pouring down his body,
1215
01:02:03,333 --> 01:02:06,792
and he's ripping things
off of the wall and just--
1216
01:02:06,792 --> 01:02:08,291
( screams )
1217
01:02:08,291 --> 01:02:10,333
And he's just throwing stuff
and throwing stuff
1218
01:02:10,333 --> 01:02:12,125
and throwing stuff
and throwing stuff.
1219
01:02:12,125 --> 01:02:14,792
And I just
followed him and followed him
and followed him
1220
01:02:14,792 --> 01:02:17,500
and we ended up down
on the first floor.
1221
01:02:17,500 --> 01:02:19,417
And I did not know what to do,
I did not know what to do
1222
01:02:19,417 --> 01:02:21,417
because I've never seen
anybody doing anything
like this.
1223
01:02:21,417 --> 01:02:24,125
I did not know what to do,
so all I did was,
1224
01:02:24,125 --> 01:02:27,083
I just grab him
in the tightest hug
1225
01:02:27,083 --> 01:02:30,583
and I just hold him
and hold him
1226
01:02:30,583 --> 01:02:33,542
and hold because
I had him in, like, a hold,
1227
01:02:33,542 --> 01:02:36,458
but it was a hug
and-- because I'm really,
really strong--
1228
01:02:36,458 --> 01:02:41,625
and I just hold him
and hold him and hold him
till his whole body just--
1229
01:02:47,750 --> 01:02:52,542
collapsed...
and he just started crying
1230
01:02:52,542 --> 01:02:58,333
and crying and crying
and crying on me.
1231
01:02:58,333 --> 01:03:04,000
And that was
my third day at Huey.
1232
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,375
( music playing )
1233
01:03:21,834 --> 01:03:26,500
I became interested
in brain development
1234
01:03:26,500 --> 01:03:28,709
and in the effect of stress
1235
01:03:28,709 --> 01:03:30,917
on the development
of the brain.
1236
01:03:30,917 --> 01:03:33,709
And I am getting notes
from teachers
1237
01:03:33,709 --> 01:03:36,625
saying, "This kid has ADHD.
1238
01:03:36,625 --> 01:03:38,875
Please place on Ritalin."
1239
01:03:38,875 --> 01:03:41,041
And I'm like, "Wow!
1240
01:03:41,041 --> 01:03:44,709
( chuckling )
The diagnosis has been made,
1241
01:03:44,709 --> 01:03:47,000
there is a treatment plan.
1242
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:48,458
Am I needed for anything?"
1243
01:03:48,458 --> 01:03:50,709
And in fact,
when some of these children
1244
01:03:50,709 --> 01:03:52,500
had an in-depth
clinical evaluation,
1245
01:03:52,500 --> 01:03:56,166
they did not have
Attention Deficit
Hyperactivity Disorder,
1246
01:03:56,166 --> 01:03:59,750
but they had a long history
of adversity
1247
01:03:59,750 --> 01:04:05,417
and a long history of,
not only of stress,
but of traumatic stress.
1248
01:04:05,417 --> 01:04:09,667
It's a type of stress
that really impacts--
1249
01:04:09,667 --> 01:04:13,166
( stutters )
it impairs your function--
1250
01:04:13,166 --> 01:04:16,125
it impairs
your function socially,
1251
01:04:16,125 --> 01:04:20,458
it impairs
your function academically,
and it impairs how you feel.
1252
01:04:20,458 --> 01:04:24,625
You feel distressed,
and this is how these children
were feeling.
1253
01:04:24,625 --> 01:04:29,417
Historical trauma exists,
and not only in history.
1254
01:04:29,417 --> 01:04:31,625
It exists in our daily life.
1255
01:04:31,625 --> 01:04:35,750
I think
as a society we sometimes
experience symptoms
1256
01:04:35,750 --> 01:04:38,041
of Post-Traumatic
Stress Disorder,
1257
01:04:38,041 --> 01:04:41,834
specifically avoidance,
which is a very bad symptom.
1258
01:04:41,834 --> 01:04:44,083
You know, avoidance--
not wanting to talk about it,
1259
01:04:44,083 --> 01:04:46,291
not thinking about it,
not addressing it.
1260
01:04:46,291 --> 01:04:50,083
And what happens
when that avoidance is there,
1261
01:04:50,083 --> 01:04:55,125
the impact
of the trauma permeates,
it continues.
1262
01:04:55,125 --> 01:04:57,625
I see many children
who do not have
1263
01:04:57,625 --> 01:04:59,792
the trauma experience
in their lives,
1264
01:04:59,792 --> 01:05:02,834
but they learn it
as a response from caretakers.
1265
01:05:02,834 --> 01:05:03,792
They model it.
1266
01:05:03,792 --> 01:05:06,500
And some individuals think
1267
01:05:06,500 --> 01:05:10,458
that also
it is passed epigenetically,
1268
01:05:10,458 --> 01:05:15,792
and that what happens
is there are some changes
in the coding of your DNA
1269
01:05:15,792 --> 01:05:18,291
where you actually
alter your DNA,
1270
01:05:18,291 --> 01:05:22,834
and then what you are passing
is altered DNA.
1271
01:05:22,834 --> 01:05:25,333
Slavery.
1272
01:05:25,333 --> 01:05:29,375
Um... the social factors
1273
01:05:29,375 --> 01:05:33,667
that are surround the issue
of slavery--
1274
01:05:33,667 --> 01:05:38,500
the history of slavery
are... enough.
1275
01:05:38,500 --> 01:05:41,625
( chuckles )
They don't need
any DNA change
1276
01:05:41,625 --> 01:05:44,750
because of the way in which
they have resulted
1277
01:05:44,750 --> 01:05:48,583
in many communities
of African-Americans
1278
01:05:48,583 --> 01:05:51,291
living in a state
of poverty
1279
01:05:51,291 --> 01:05:54,667
where it's very hard
for them to escape from.
1280
01:05:54,667 --> 01:05:58,583
It's a way of maintaining
that enslavement.
1281
01:05:58,583 --> 01:06:03,250
And of course,
poverty is not only in--
with African-Americans.
1282
01:06:03,250 --> 01:06:05,041
It exists
in all communities,
1283
01:06:05,041 --> 01:06:11,041
but I think that
in many communities
that are African-American
1284
01:06:11,041 --> 01:06:14,875
have gone through
a history of slavery
1285
01:06:14,875 --> 01:06:18,625
to another form of slavery,
you know?
1286
01:06:18,625 --> 01:06:20,709
Through poverty.
1287
01:06:22,709 --> 01:06:25,458
Trauma? Shit.
1288
01:06:25,458 --> 01:06:27,834
Anybody-- Anybody can--
1289
01:06:27,834 --> 01:06:30,917
Anything that a freakin'--
1290
01:06:30,917 --> 01:06:32,542
They say they went to school
for all that shit
1291
01:06:32,542 --> 01:06:33,750
and all that bullshit?
1292
01:06:33,750 --> 01:06:35,709
Naw. Hell, naw.
1293
01:06:35,709 --> 01:06:39,041
You can fake their asses,
like, a lot.
1294
01:06:39,041 --> 01:06:41,709
I seen a motherfucker
fake trauma to the max.
1295
01:06:41,709 --> 01:06:43,000
Hell, yeah.
1296
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,583
He was acting like
he was traumatized
1297
01:06:44,583 --> 01:06:46,166
by what he did,
1298
01:06:46,166 --> 01:06:49,083
and they had to comfort him
like he was a little baby.
1299
01:06:49,083 --> 01:06:51,750
He confuse 'em.
Hell, yeah!
1300
01:06:51,750 --> 01:06:53,208
You could trick a therapist
1301
01:06:53,208 --> 01:06:56,000
into giving you meds,
and they would do it.
1302
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,917
He really would fall for it.
You could trick therapists.
1303
01:06:58,917 --> 01:07:02,750
They're supposed to know
when you're telling a lie.
1304
01:07:02,750 --> 01:07:04,917
They wouldn't even know.
1305
01:07:04,917 --> 01:07:07,250
I tricked them.
I told them I couldn't sleep.
1306
01:07:07,250 --> 01:07:10,250
They gave me sleeping meds.
1307
01:07:10,250 --> 01:07:13,917
Historical trauma,
that's bullshit.
1308
01:07:13,917 --> 01:07:16,417
That's bullshit.
1309
01:07:16,417 --> 01:07:19,667
Hell, no.
I'm Salvadorian.
1310
01:07:19,667 --> 01:07:21,875
They done mess
half my people up.
1311
01:07:21,875 --> 01:07:25,417
And the blacks
who are incarcerated?
1312
01:07:25,417 --> 01:07:27,834
They don't--
they don't, man--
1313
01:07:27,834 --> 01:07:32,083
most of blacks
who are incarcerated
don't even care about slavery.
1314
01:07:32,083 --> 01:07:34,291
They be like,
"It wasn't my time.
1315
01:07:34,291 --> 01:07:36,959
I wasn't there.
What I care about it?"
1316
01:07:36,959 --> 01:07:38,709
No, hell no.
1317
01:07:38,709 --> 01:07:42,000
You wanna change people,
you gotta do it internally.
1318
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,625
You wanna change,
you gotta do it by yourself.
1319
01:07:45,625 --> 01:07:47,625
Just like I'm doing.
1320
01:07:47,625 --> 01:07:50,750
I got out.
I got a job.
1321
01:07:50,750 --> 01:07:52,000
Got my substance abu--
1322
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,542
Oh, yeah,
I'm-- I'm a dishwasher.
1323
01:07:55,542 --> 01:07:58,500
Disney Hall, Downtown L.A.
1324
01:07:58,500 --> 01:08:03,625
( scoffs ) Trauma.
Motherfuckers act like that
to a max.
1325
01:08:03,625 --> 01:08:06,083
Yeah, some cases, it's true.
1326
01:08:06,083 --> 01:08:07,709
Like the sexos.
1327
01:08:07,709 --> 01:08:09,417
Sex offenders?
1328
01:08:09,417 --> 01:08:11,709
Understand about
the sexos-- they have a--
1329
01:08:11,709 --> 01:08:14,208
they repeat what they did--
what happened to them,
1330
01:08:14,208 --> 01:08:17,875
so I understand
about the sexos.
1331
01:08:17,875 --> 01:08:22,041
Oh, a sexo put a baby
1332
01:08:22,041 --> 01:08:28,000
in a microwave
and let it pop.
1333
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,625
Let that motherfucker pop.
1334
01:08:31,625 --> 01:08:35,125
That's some fucked up shit.
1335
01:08:35,125 --> 01:08:37,083
Not even the hardest vatos
that I know
1336
01:08:37,083 --> 01:08:39,583
will do some shit like that.
1337
01:08:39,583 --> 01:08:42,208
Not even the hardest
gang members I know
1338
01:08:42,208 --> 01:08:45,375
would do some shit like that.
1339
01:08:45,375 --> 01:08:48,583
Even we look at you
like you retarded.
1340
01:08:48,583 --> 01:08:53,417
Why the fuck
would you kill a baby?
1341
01:08:53,417 --> 01:08:56,542
We frown upon that shit.
1342
01:08:56,542 --> 01:08:59,208
We don't fucking
do that baby.
1343
01:08:59,208 --> 01:09:02,417
We don't fuck
an innocent baby.
1344
01:09:02,417 --> 01:09:05,667
We don't like
doing that shit.
1345
01:09:05,667 --> 01:09:09,750
But it happens.
1346
01:09:09,750 --> 01:09:12,166
I'll smoke
that motherfucker.
1347
01:09:12,166 --> 01:09:14,291
I would kill
that motherfucker.
1348
01:09:14,291 --> 01:09:17,208
Hell, yeah, I believe
in capital punishment,
1349
01:09:17,208 --> 01:09:22,041
especially for sexos
and murderers.
1350
01:09:22,041 --> 01:09:23,375
Fuck it.
1351
01:09:23,375 --> 01:09:27,375
You got caught for it,
oh, well, you dead.
1352
01:09:27,375 --> 01:09:33,083
Shit, you're dumb enough
to get caught for it,
it's your bad.
1353
01:09:33,083 --> 01:09:34,875
( music playing )
1354
01:09:39,875 --> 01:09:42,625
If I may interrupt you
for a moment.
1355
01:09:45,333 --> 01:09:48,917
Luckily, I'm not 15.
1356
01:09:48,917 --> 01:09:53,083
But if I were,
how in the world
1357
01:09:53,083 --> 01:09:56,834
would I find any respect
for human life
1358
01:09:56,834 --> 01:09:59,000
or any sense of history?
1359
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,417
And history is a concept
1360
01:10:00,417 --> 01:10:02,583
that exists
in almost nobody's mind.
1361
01:10:02,583 --> 01:10:04,041
Go on, go on.
1362
01:10:04,041 --> 01:10:06,000
( music playing )
1363
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,917
According to the West,
I have no history.
1364
01:10:08,917 --> 01:10:14,291
I've had to wrest my identity
out of the jaws of the West.
1365
01:10:15,792 --> 01:10:19,125
What I'm trying to say is
that if I were young,
1366
01:10:19,125 --> 01:10:22,750
- I find myself
with no models.
- ( ice crunching )
1367
01:10:22,750 --> 01:10:27,291
And that's
a very crucial situation.
1368
01:10:27,291 --> 01:10:29,458
Because what
we've done.
1369
01:10:29,458 --> 01:10:32,333
The world we created.
1370
01:10:32,333 --> 01:10:37,625
If I were 15,
I'd feel hopeless, too.
1371
01:10:37,625 --> 01:10:42,291
So you see, what
we gotta try to do,
what we gotta try to face...
1372
01:10:46,166 --> 01:10:50,041
I read a little book...
1373
01:10:50,041 --> 01:10:53,834
called "The Way
It Spozed to Be."
1374
01:10:53,834 --> 01:10:55,709
And it was poetry
and things
1375
01:10:55,709 --> 01:10:59,792
written by...
little black children,
1376
01:10:59,792 --> 01:11:03,291
Mexican,
Puerto Rican children.
1377
01:11:03,291 --> 01:11:08,792
Land of the free,
home of the brave.
1378
01:11:08,792 --> 01:11:12,083
And the teacher
had made a compilation
1379
01:11:12,083 --> 01:11:15,458
of all the poems
these kids wrote.
1380
01:11:15,458 --> 01:11:19,166
And he respected them
and he dealt with them
1381
01:11:19,166 --> 01:11:20,959
as if they were--
as, in fact,
1382
01:11:20,959 --> 01:11:25,667
all children are, as in fact,
all human beings are--
1383
01:11:25,667 --> 01:11:28,208
some kind of a miracle.
1384
01:11:28,208 --> 01:11:31,500
And so something
wonderful happened.
1385
01:11:31,500 --> 01:11:36,917
And so for me,
that very tiny book--
it's only 30 pages long...
1386
01:11:36,917 --> 01:11:39,542
one boy wrote a poem--
1387
01:11:39,542 --> 01:11:42,583
16 years old,
who's in prison--
1388
01:11:42,583 --> 01:11:47,709
it ended, four lines
I never will forget.
1389
01:11:47,709 --> 01:11:53,375
"Walk on water.
Walk on a leaf.
1390
01:11:53,375 --> 01:11:58,709
Hardest of all
is walk in grief."
1391
01:12:00,166 --> 01:12:03,375
So, what I'm trying to get at,
1392
01:12:03,375 --> 01:12:06,125
I hope, is that there is
1393
01:12:06,125 --> 01:12:09,667
a tremendous national,
1394
01:12:10,750 --> 01:12:15,667
global, moral waste.
1395
01:12:17,041 --> 01:12:20,875
And the question is
how can it be arrested?
1396
01:12:20,875 --> 01:12:22,417
It's an enormous question.
1397
01:12:22,417 --> 01:12:25,792
Look, you and I,
we've become whatever
we become.
1398
01:12:25,792 --> 01:12:29,583
The curtain
will come down eventually.
1399
01:12:29,583 --> 01:12:32,083
But what should we do
about the children?
1400
01:12:33,917 --> 01:12:36,375
We are responsible,
1401
01:12:36,375 --> 01:12:41,375
insofar as we're responsible
for anything at all,
1402
01:12:41,375 --> 01:12:44,083
we are responsible
1403
01:12:44,083 --> 01:12:48,583
for the future of this world.
1404
01:12:48,583 --> 01:12:53,000
- ( multiple gunshots )
- ( music playing )
1405
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:56,625
( sirens wail )
1406
01:12:56,625 --> 01:13:00,125
Barack Obama:
I spoke with
and Vice President Biden
1407
01:13:00,125 --> 01:13:02,625
spoke with Mayor Joe Riley
and other leaders
1408
01:13:02,625 --> 01:13:06,667
of Charleston
to express our deep sorrow
1409
01:13:06,667 --> 01:13:10,625
over the senseless murders
that took place last night.
1410
01:13:10,625 --> 01:13:11,834
( cameras clicking )
1411
01:13:11,834 --> 01:13:13,625
Michelle and I know
several members
1412
01:13:13,625 --> 01:13:17,291
of Emanuel AME Church.
1413
01:13:17,291 --> 01:13:22,500
We knew their pastor,
Reverend Clementa Pinckney,
1414
01:13:22,500 --> 01:13:25,458
who along with eight others
gathered in prayer
1415
01:13:25,458 --> 01:13:29,875
and fellowship
and was murdered last night.
1416
01:13:29,875 --> 01:13:33,917
Obama:
Mother Emanuel is in fact
more than a church.
1417
01:13:33,917 --> 01:13:37,834
This is a place of worship
that was founded by
1418
01:13:37,834 --> 01:13:41,417
African-Americans
seeking liberty.
1419
01:13:41,417 --> 01:13:43,709
This is a church
that was burned to the ground
1420
01:13:43,709 --> 01:13:48,667
because its worshippers
worked to end slavery.
1421
01:13:48,667 --> 01:13:51,875
When there were laws banning
all-black church gatherings,
1422
01:13:51,875 --> 01:13:54,375
they conducted services
in secret.
1423
01:13:56,834 --> 01:13:59,000
Judge:
Mr. Roof, you're charged
with nine counts of murder
1424
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:00,667
and one count of possession
of a weapon
1425
01:14:00,667 --> 01:14:02,333
during the commission
of a violent crime.
1426
01:14:02,333 --> 01:14:04,792
Is there a representative
of any of the family
1427
01:14:04,792 --> 01:14:06,291
that would be here
that wished
1428
01:14:06,291 --> 01:14:08,625
to make a statement
before this court?
1429
01:14:08,625 --> 01:14:10,834
Woman:
I forgive you.
1430
01:14:10,834 --> 01:14:13,291
Woman #2:
And I forgive you.
1431
01:14:13,291 --> 01:14:15,458
Man:
I forgive you
and my family forgives you.
1432
01:14:15,458 --> 01:14:21,041
Woman #3:
We are the family
that love built.
1433
01:14:21,041 --> 01:14:26,542
We have no room for hating,
so we have to forgive.
1434
01:14:26,542 --> 01:14:28,709
( woman vocalizing )
1435
01:14:35,041 --> 01:14:37,917
Obama:
For too long,
we were blind to the pain
1436
01:14:37,917 --> 01:14:41,166
that the Confederate flag
stirred in too many
of our citizens.
1437
01:14:41,166 --> 01:14:44,041
( applause )
1438
01:14:44,041 --> 01:14:47,291
Obama:
By taking down that flag,
we express God's grace.
1439
01:14:47,291 --> 01:14:50,792
( all chanting )
Take it down! Take it down!
1440
01:14:50,792 --> 01:14:55,417
Take it down!
Take it down! Take it down!
1441
01:14:55,417 --> 01:14:58,000
That was really
the snapping point for me.
1442
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:01,166
And it was, like, you know,
how can we possibly
get this flag down?
1443
01:15:01,166 --> 01:15:04,667
Now, in 2000,
somebody put a ladder
up against the pole,
1444
01:15:04,667 --> 01:15:06,542
climbed to the top,
set it on fire,
1445
01:15:06,542 --> 01:15:08,709
and South Carolina
built a four-foot fence
around it.
1446
01:15:08,709 --> 01:15:10,792
So it wasn't going
to be easy.
1447
01:15:10,792 --> 01:15:13,750
You basically had
the coming together
of two activist groups.
1448
01:15:13,750 --> 01:15:15,834
There was
Black Lives Matter--
The Tribe--
1449
01:15:15,834 --> 01:15:17,625
who were mostly
black activists,
1450
01:15:17,625 --> 01:15:19,750
and then you had
these environmentalists--
1451
01:15:19,750 --> 01:15:22,542
Occupy activists
who were mostly white.
1452
01:15:22,542 --> 01:15:26,625
And it took a lot of trust.
1453
01:15:26,625 --> 01:15:28,041
I mean, here I walked
into this room
1454
01:15:28,041 --> 01:15:29,458
and half of the people
in this room
1455
01:15:29,458 --> 01:15:31,000
I've never seen before
in my life,
1456
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:32,250
and we're talking about
going down
1457
01:15:32,250 --> 01:15:33,667
and taking down
the Confederate flag.
1458
01:15:33,667 --> 01:15:35,709
I mean,
I really felt
1459
01:15:35,709 --> 01:15:40,834
on my heart that...
I was supposed to do this.
1460
01:15:40,834 --> 01:15:43,417
That God had called me
to do this,
1461
01:15:43,417 --> 01:15:45,792
but I didn't want it
to be some whim.
1462
01:15:45,792 --> 01:15:48,625
I mean, it's not
a whim thing to do.
1463
01:15:48,625 --> 01:15:51,291
You know, I didn't have
any experience climbing.
1464
01:15:51,291 --> 01:15:53,125
And I had been
arrested before,
1465
01:15:53,125 --> 01:15:57,500
but there was never
any, you know, fear
of any danger, you know?
1466
01:15:57,500 --> 01:16:00,208
I mean, and now,
we're talking about
a situation where
1467
01:16:00,208 --> 01:16:02,125
I could be potentially
putting my life at risk.
1468
01:16:02,125 --> 01:16:03,750
- ( horn honks )
- Man: Get off the pole.
1469
01:16:03,750 --> 01:16:05,875
Ma'am! Get down now.
1470
01:16:05,875 --> 01:16:08,458
Newsome:
Um, you know, a vigilante
1471
01:16:08,458 --> 01:16:11,458
coming by with a gun
while I was on the pole.
1472
01:16:11,458 --> 01:16:13,208
I mean, well, obviously,
I mean, there was nothing
1473
01:16:13,208 --> 01:16:14,667
I would be able to do
because I would be
1474
01:16:14,667 --> 01:16:18,125
very vulnerable
on the pole.
1475
01:16:18,125 --> 01:16:19,375
I know, sir, I'm prepared.
1476
01:16:19,375 --> 01:16:20,709
Newsome:
But we decided
1477
01:16:20,709 --> 01:16:24,625
that everybody else
should scatter.
1478
01:16:24,625 --> 01:16:25,959
( man chatters )
1479
01:16:25,959 --> 01:16:27,625
You know, I think
that's like a place
1480
01:16:27,625 --> 01:16:31,750
where the cause and the idea
are bigger than the person
1481
01:16:31,750 --> 01:16:36,667
because I felt like
even if I didn't make it
down the pole,
1482
01:16:36,667 --> 01:16:38,542
the statement
would still be made.
1483
01:16:38,542 --> 01:16:40,583
And that
was really the point
1484
01:16:40,583 --> 01:16:42,792
that we were trying
to get across.
1485
01:16:42,792 --> 01:16:48,291
That this is--
this is how serious this is.
1486
01:16:48,291 --> 01:16:51,834
Uh, yeah, I thought about
Martin Luther King.
1487
01:16:51,834 --> 01:16:54,834
I mean, I--
I thought about Malcolm X.
1488
01:16:54,834 --> 01:16:58,959
But then I just had
to focus on learning
to climb the pole.
1489
01:16:58,959 --> 01:17:00,834
You know, I--
I had a day and a half.
1490
01:17:00,834 --> 01:17:03,667
- Woman: Take your time,
Bree.
- Man: Get down now.
1491
01:17:03,667 --> 01:17:05,875
Newsome:
A Greenpeace activist
came down from New York
1492
01:17:05,875 --> 01:17:09,083
and we practiced
on Jimmy's-- James Tyson
is a white man
1493
01:17:09,083 --> 01:17:11,542
that got arrested with me--
and we practiced
1494
01:17:11,542 --> 01:17:13,250
on a lamppost
on Jimmy's farm.
1495
01:17:13,250 --> 01:17:14,750
Man:
It is not worth it.
1496
01:17:14,750 --> 01:17:16,667
There was
this police supervisor
1497
01:17:16,667 --> 01:17:18,834
in the street
and he came over.
1498
01:17:18,834 --> 01:17:21,583
And he directed
two of the officers
1499
01:17:21,583 --> 01:17:23,542
at the bottom of the pole
to tase me,
1500
01:17:23,542 --> 01:17:28,291
and I would've been
electrocuted because
I was on the pole.
1501
01:17:28,291 --> 01:17:31,875
And that's when
James grabbed the pole
1502
01:17:31,875 --> 01:17:35,875
and he said, you know,
"If you electrocute her,
1503
01:17:35,875 --> 01:17:37,959
you'll have
to electrocute me, too."
1504
01:17:37,959 --> 01:17:41,417
And I think that's
when people, you know, saw.
1505
01:17:41,417 --> 01:17:43,375
They stepped back
and they saw that people
1506
01:17:43,375 --> 01:17:46,208
had smartphones and cameras,
and they backed off.
1507
01:17:46,208 --> 01:17:50,750
You come against me
with hatred and oppression
and violence.
1508
01:17:50,750 --> 01:17:53,417
I come against you
in the name of God!
1509
01:17:53,417 --> 01:17:55,083
This flag comes down today!
1510
01:17:55,083 --> 01:17:58,000
Man: Get off the pole!
It is not worth it.
1511
01:17:58,000 --> 01:17:59,959
( bassist playing
"Amazing Grace" )
1512
01:17:59,959 --> 01:18:02,750
Get off the pole.
1513
01:18:02,750 --> 01:18:05,542
"The Lord is my light
and my salvation.
1514
01:18:05,542 --> 01:18:08,250
Whom shall I fear?
1515
01:18:08,250 --> 01:18:11,000
The Lord is the stronghold
of my life.
1516
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:12,917
Of whom shall I be afraid?"
1517
01:18:12,917 --> 01:18:16,917
( playing "Amazing Grace" )
1518
01:18:19,583 --> 01:18:22,750
( scattered cheering
and applause )
1519
01:18:35,667 --> 01:18:37,709
"The Lord is my shepherd.
I shall not want."
1520
01:18:37,709 --> 01:18:39,792
Newsome:
It is our duty to win!
1521
01:18:39,792 --> 01:18:41,542
Supporters:
It is our duty to win!
1522
01:18:41,542 --> 01:18:43,583
Newsome:
We must love and protect
each other.
1523
01:18:43,583 --> 01:18:45,667
Supporters:
We must love and protect
each other.
1524
01:18:45,667 --> 01:18:47,583
Newsome:
We have nothing to lose
but our chains.
1525
01:18:47,583 --> 01:18:49,542
Supporters:
Nothing to lose
but our chains.
1526
01:18:49,542 --> 01:18:52,125
( bassist continues
"Amazing Grace" )
1527
01:19:00,417 --> 01:19:03,792
( concludes
"Amazing Grace" )
1528
01:19:09,333 --> 01:19:14,166
On our way
on this, um, trip...
1529
01:19:15,875 --> 01:19:21,625
that we've been taking...
for the past 13 years.
1530
01:19:21,625 --> 01:19:24,166
Members of Congress.
1531
01:19:24,166 --> 01:19:29,291
I been going back
every year since 1965.
1532
01:19:30,333 --> 01:19:35,375
Back to Selma to commemorate
1533
01:19:35,375 --> 01:19:40,125
the anniversary
of Bloody Sunday
1534
01:19:40,125 --> 01:19:46,000
that took place
on March 7, 1965.
1535
01:19:47,625 --> 01:19:51,667
But we usually stop
in Birmingham for a day
1536
01:19:51,667 --> 01:19:55,166
and then we go to Montgomery
for a day.
1537
01:19:55,166 --> 01:19:59,417
And then we go to Selma.
1538
01:19:59,417 --> 01:20:04,041
But on this trip
to Montgomery,
1539
01:20:04,041 --> 01:20:06,875
we stopped
at First Baptist Church.
1540
01:20:06,875 --> 01:20:11,375
It's a church
that was pastored by
Reverend Ralph Abernathy.
1541
01:20:11,375 --> 01:20:15,792
It's the same church
where I met
1542
01:20:15,792 --> 01:20:20,250
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
and Reverend Abernathy
1543
01:20:20,250 --> 01:20:23,917
in the spring of 1958.
1544
01:20:23,917 --> 01:20:25,500
Mmm.
1545
01:20:25,500 --> 01:20:30,375
Young police officer--
the chief--
1546
01:20:31,583 --> 01:20:33,875
came to the church
and he gave
1547
01:20:33,875 --> 01:20:37,250
a very moving speech
to the audience.
1548
01:20:37,250 --> 01:20:39,166
The church was full.
1549
01:20:39,166 --> 01:20:42,041
Black, white, Latino,
1550
01:20:42,041 --> 01:20:45,583
Asian-Americans,
members of Congress,
1551
01:20:45,583 --> 01:20:51,250
staffers, family members,
children, and grandchildren.
1552
01:20:51,250 --> 01:20:57,291
And he said, "What happened
in Montgomery 52 years ago
1553
01:20:58,417 --> 01:21:00,458
during the Freedom Ride
1554
01:21:00,458 --> 01:21:04,625
when you arrived,
was not right."
1555
01:21:04,625 --> 01:21:06,250
( audience murmurs )
1556
01:21:06,250 --> 01:21:09,792
He said,
"The police department
didn't show up.
1557
01:21:09,792 --> 01:21:14,250
They allowed the angry mob
to come and beat you."
1558
01:21:14,250 --> 01:21:17,375
And he said, "Congressman...
1559
01:21:17,375 --> 01:21:21,166
I'm sorry
for what happened.
1560
01:21:21,166 --> 01:21:23,417
I want to apologize.
1561
01:21:23,417 --> 01:21:27,792
This is not the Montgomery
that we want Montgomery to be.
1562
01:21:27,792 --> 01:21:32,125
This is not
the police department
I want to be the chief of."
1563
01:21:32,125 --> 01:21:33,625
Hmm.
1564
01:21:33,625 --> 01:21:39,041
He said,
"I want you to forgive us."
1565
01:21:39,041 --> 01:21:43,166
He said,
"To show the respect
1566
01:21:43,166 --> 01:21:48,792
that I have for you
and for the movement,
1567
01:21:48,792 --> 01:21:53,583
I want to take off my badge
1568
01:21:53,583 --> 01:21:56,750
and give it to you."
1569
01:21:56,750 --> 01:22:01,500
The church was so quiet,
no one said a word.
1570
01:22:01,500 --> 01:22:06,250
And I stood up
to accept the badge
and I started crying.
1571
01:22:06,250 --> 01:22:08,834
And everybody in the church
started crying.
1572
01:22:08,834 --> 01:22:12,750
There was not a dry eye
in the church.
1573
01:22:12,750 --> 01:22:16,333
I said, "Officer-- Chief...
1574
01:22:19,375 --> 01:22:22,000
I cannot accept your badge."
1575
01:22:24,959 --> 01:22:28,333
"I am not worthy
to accept your badge.
1576
01:22:28,333 --> 01:22:29,667
Don't you need it?"
1577
01:22:29,667 --> 01:22:31,000
( man laughs )
1578
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:34,625
He said, "Congressman,
I can get another one.
1579
01:22:34,625 --> 01:22:38,834
- I want you
to have my badge!"
- ( laughs )
1580
01:22:38,834 --> 01:22:40,458
- And I took it.
- Mm-hmm.
1581
01:22:40,458 --> 01:22:44,458
( stutters )
I'm never ever
gonna forget it.
1582
01:22:44,458 --> 01:22:48,709
- Mm-mm.
- I'mma hold
onto to it forever.
1583
01:22:48,709 --> 01:22:53,417
But he hugged me
and I hugged him.
1584
01:22:56,333 --> 01:22:57,625
I cried some more.
1585
01:22:57,625 --> 01:22:59,667
You had Democrats
and Republicans
1586
01:22:59,667 --> 01:23:01,834
in a church crying.
1587
01:23:01,834 --> 01:23:06,041
It was the first time
that any police chief
1588
01:23:06,041 --> 01:23:08,875
in any city where I visited
1589
01:23:08,875 --> 01:23:14,083
or where I was arrested
in the sixties ever apologized.
1590
01:23:14,083 --> 01:23:18,041
Or where I was beaten.
1591
01:23:18,041 --> 01:23:21,250
- It was a moment of grace.
- Mm-hmm.
1592
01:23:21,250 --> 01:23:25,709
He hugged me.
He held me.
1593
01:23:25,709 --> 01:23:29,583
And it-it-it felt
so freeing
1594
01:23:29,583 --> 01:23:33,583
and at the same time--
so liberating,
1595
01:23:33,583 --> 01:23:35,417
and at the same time,
I felt like,
1596
01:23:35,417 --> 01:23:39,291
"You know, I'm not worthy.
I mean, I'm just one.
1597
01:23:39,291 --> 01:23:42,917
I'm just one.
I'm just one of the people.
1598
01:23:42,917 --> 01:23:44,750
'Cause many people
were beaten."
1599
01:23:44,750 --> 01:23:46,041
Mm-hmm.
1600
01:23:46,041 --> 01:23:48,959
It's, uh,
it's "Amazing Grace."
1601
01:23:48,959 --> 01:23:50,125
Hmm.
1602
01:23:50,125 --> 01:23:51,417
- ( chuckles )
- Y'all know that song?
1603
01:23:51,417 --> 01:23:52,834
- Audience: Yes.
- Y'all know it?
1604
01:23:52,834 --> 01:23:54,750
- Oh, yes.
- Uh-huh.
1605
01:23:54,750 --> 01:23:56,959
Y'all know that line
in there?
1606
01:23:56,959 --> 01:24:01,667
- Man: Mm-hmm.
- Help me with it.
"Save a wretch like me."
1607
01:24:01,667 --> 01:24:06,125
All:
♪ Save a wretch ♪
1608
01:24:06,125 --> 01:24:09,208
♪ Like me ♪
1609
01:24:09,208 --> 01:24:11,417
Sing it, sing it, y'all.
Sing it good.
1610
01:24:11,417 --> 01:24:16,792
All:
♪ I once was lost ♪
1611
01:24:17,959 --> 01:24:23,125
♪ But now I'm found ♪
1612
01:24:23,125 --> 01:24:24,291
Give it your heart.
1613
01:24:24,291 --> 01:24:29,291
♪ Was blind, but now ♪
1614
01:24:30,458 --> 01:24:33,375
♪ I see. ♪
1615
01:24:33,375 --> 01:24:37,166
That's right.
That's right.
1616
01:24:37,166 --> 01:24:40,208
"Save a wretch like me."
1617
01:24:40,208 --> 01:24:44,000
A sinner sins.
We're all falling short.
1618
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:48,667
- Mmm.
- We all just trying
to make it.
1619
01:24:48,667 --> 01:24:51,583
We all searchin'!
1620
01:24:51,583 --> 01:24:54,875
Like Dr. King said:
We out to redeem the soul
of America,
1621
01:24:54,875 --> 01:24:56,792
we first
have to redeem ourselves.
1622
01:24:56,792 --> 01:24:59,667
- Man: Amen.
- But this message--
1623
01:24:59,667 --> 01:25:05,500
this act of grace
of the badge says to me...
1624
01:25:07,500 --> 01:25:12,458
"Hold on.
Never give up.
1625
01:25:12,458 --> 01:25:17,458
Never give in.
Never lose faith.
1626
01:25:17,458 --> 01:25:19,333
Keep the faith."
1627
01:25:31,417 --> 01:25:34,875
Only time something
like this happened before
1628
01:25:34,875 --> 01:25:36,834
was a member
of the Klan,
1629
01:25:36,834 --> 01:25:39,709
Rock Hill, South Carolina,
1630
01:25:39,709 --> 01:25:45,750
who beat me and my seatmate
on May 9, 1961.
1631
01:25:45,750 --> 01:25:48,166
He came in the office.
1632
01:25:48,166 --> 01:25:50,583
His son had been
encouraging his father
1633
01:25:50,583 --> 01:25:56,083
to seek out the people
he had wronged.
1634
01:25:56,083 --> 01:26:00,041
And he came in the office,
February '09.
1635
01:26:09,375 --> 01:26:10,709
( murmurs )
1636
01:26:15,750 --> 01:26:19,291
( stutters )
"Mr. Lewis.
1637
01:26:24,500 --> 01:26:28,917
I'm one of the people
1638
01:26:28,917 --> 01:26:33,291
who beat you...
1639
01:26:33,291 --> 01:26:38,583
on May 9, 1961.
1640
01:26:39,750 --> 01:26:41,417
( sniffles )
1641
01:26:49,750 --> 01:26:51,750
I want to apologize.
1642
01:26:58,959 --> 01:27:00,917
Will you forgive me?"
1643
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:17,917
I said, "I forgive you.
1644
01:27:20,458 --> 01:27:22,458
Accept your apology."
1645
01:27:23,959 --> 01:27:27,542
And he hugged me.
And his son hugged me.
1646
01:27:27,542 --> 01:27:31,166
He started crying.
His son started crying.
1647
01:27:31,166 --> 01:27:35,333
I seen that guy
four different times
since that time.
1648
01:27:35,333 --> 01:27:37,166
He called me brother.
1649
01:27:39,792 --> 01:27:42,166
I call him brother.
1650
01:27:42,166 --> 01:27:44,667
( music playing )
1651
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:04,917
Woman:
Did you hear?
1652
01:28:04,917 --> 01:28:06,834
Did you hear about the rose
that grew
1653
01:28:06,834 --> 01:28:09,291
from a crack in the concrete?
1654
01:28:09,291 --> 01:28:11,917
Provin' nature's law's wrong,
1655
01:28:11,917 --> 01:28:15,166
it learned how to walk
without having feet.
1656
01:28:15,166 --> 01:28:18,500
Funny it seems,
but by keeping its dreams
1657
01:28:18,500 --> 01:28:21,542
it learned
to breathe fresh air.
1658
01:28:21,542 --> 01:28:24,750
Long live the rose
that grew from concrete
1659
01:28:24,750 --> 01:28:27,208
when no one else
even cared.
1660
01:28:28,750 --> 01:28:32,083
( music playing,
male singers vocalizing )
1661
01:28:39,041 --> 01:28:41,875
( female singer vocalizes )
1662
01:28:45,959 --> 01:28:48,709
( music continues )
1663
01:28:50,792 --> 01:28:55,041
Woman:
♪ Gotta keep climbing ♪
1664
01:28:57,375 --> 01:29:02,375
♪ Gotta keep prayin' ♪
1665
01:29:02,375 --> 01:29:07,834
♪ Got to keep climbin'
and climbin' ♪
1666
01:29:07,834 --> 01:29:12,583
♪ Oh, gotta keep fightin' ♪
1667
01:29:17,542 --> 01:29:20,625
♪ You know what I'm sayin',
what I'm sayin' ♪
1668
01:29:20,625 --> 01:29:23,667
♪ What I'm sayin',
what I'm sayin' ♪
1669
01:29:23,667 --> 01:29:27,583
- ♪ Whoo ♪
- ♪ You know what I'm sayin' ♪
1670
01:29:27,583 --> 01:29:31,083
♪ Gotta keep climbin' ♪
1671
01:29:31,083 --> 01:29:36,083
♪ Keep on prayin', yeah ♪
1672
01:29:36,083 --> 01:29:39,500
♪ Ooh ooh ♪
1673
01:29:39,500 --> 01:29:44,083
♪ Gotta keep climbin'
and fightin' ♪
1674
01:29:44,083 --> 01:29:47,250
♪ And climbin' and prayin' ♪
1675
01:29:47,250 --> 01:29:52,834
♪ And whoa-oh! ♪
1676
01:29:52,834 --> 01:29:56,000
♪ Gotta keep on ♪
1677
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:59,959
♪ Keep on, keep on climbin' ♪
1678
01:29:59,959 --> 01:30:02,041
♪ Oh! ♪
1679
01:30:02,041 --> 01:30:04,291
♪ I want my mama ♪
1680
01:30:05,959 --> 01:30:08,125
♪ Oh! ♪
1681
01:30:08,125 --> 01:30:11,000
♪ Screaming
in the streets ♪
1682
01:30:12,125 --> 01:30:13,125
♪ Oh! ♪
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