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In 30 years, I have never
seen more exciting matches.
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[Announcer]
Down for the count: 1, 2, 3!
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[Narrator] In 1990, the Universal Wrestling Federation
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appeared out of nowhere, ready to make a major impact
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on the wrestling world.
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The UWF was a dream.
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[Announcer] I tell you,
we have some of the
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finest talent anywhere
in the world.
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The UWF brought together
a roster of
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all-time greats
and future stars.
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It was an ambitious
dream of an outsider,
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a man named Herb Abrams.
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The purpose of this
Federation is to have
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wrestling go back to basics,the way wrestling used to be.
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I really believed that I was
stepping into something new
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and cutting edge with
Herb Abrams and the UWF.
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UWF! Number one, baby!
Number one!
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While his lofty vision put the UWF on a path to success,
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Herb's dream became
everyone else's nightmare.
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[shouts] I am going to
get you once and for all!
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Right from the get-go
the show was a joke.
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The money wasn't legit.
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Herb had squandered
millions of dollars.
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All hell broke loose.
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Herb was like a
ball of fire,
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just looking for oxygen.
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SWAT teams are gonna be
knocking down the door here
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in a minute.
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I couldn't even fathom it.
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I heard that he was covered
in Vaseline and cocaine.
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It was crazy.
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You've got to start from the
bottom and work your way up.
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Herb started at the top
and worked his way down.
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Now, for the
first time ever,
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the true story behind the
monumental downfall
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of Herb Abrams.
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You can't get any darker
than the story of
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the UWF and Herb Abrams.
You can't.
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♪
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By the end of the 1980s,
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the WWF dominated
professional wrestling.
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Powered by the vision and
expertise of Vince McMahon,
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no other organization
came close to
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its mainstream popularity.
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But in 1990, an unknown
wrestling fanatic came from
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out of nowhere to attempt
to slay the WWF monster.
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I mean, I see him so
clearly in my mind,
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like it was yesterday.
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And, I cannot talk
about Herb without smiling.
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I am Mick Foley.
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I am sometimes known
as The Hardcore Legend.
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[Announcer] Look out! Oh!
All the way to hell!
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Good God almighty!
They've killed him!
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[Mick] Herb was a little guy
with a big personality.
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His enthusiasm
was contagious.
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I believe I was at one of
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John Arezzi's
Weekend of Champions.
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John was one of the
first guys who was
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putting together
wrestling weekends.
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My name is John Arezzi,
and I've been in and out of
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the pro wrestling
business, really,
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since the early 1970s.
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There was a gentleman
who was looking to start
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a wrestling promotion and,
he was...
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a little eccentric.
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He had really
big aspirations.
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He wanted to launch at the
Wrestling Fan Convention.
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He mentioned a lot of
money being pumped into
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the organization, but when hementioned a name like
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Bruno Sammartino, I mean,
to me, that was legitimacy.
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For most of the
20th century,
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Bruno Sammartino was the face of professional wrestling,
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and one of
its first true icons.
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And I called Bruno to verify itand he said he was
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gonna be getting
involved with Herb so...
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I certainly gave him the
time of day and
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welcomed him to my
Wrestling Fan Convention.
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The wrestling fans' fantasy
weekend event is
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one of the first fan
conventions of its kind,
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and a convenient arena
for Herb to approach talent
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looking for new
opportunities.
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There was a lot of the
guys from the northeast,
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the Cactus Jack's,
Sunny Beach's,
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and Herb made a point to
introduce himself to
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almost everybody there.
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I know he was
trying to, you know,
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look for talent
at the convention.
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He was there,
I guess, recruiting.
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My name is Rick Allen,
formerly known as
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Sunny Beach in the
wrestling world.
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He, he was, you know,looking to do big things and,
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he goes, "Sunny, my boy,
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we're gonna make
it big one day,
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you know, just be
there for the ride."
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I didn't aspire to become
a professional wrestler,
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to be honest with you.
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He saw something in me
that I didn't even see.
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He's a hell of a wrestler,
this guy.
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The brand name is
"Wild Thing" Stevie Ray.
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He said, "Stevie, my boy,
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I'm gonna turn you
into a big star."
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I can't wait to be
around this guy.
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Herb had never wrestled.
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He had never really
experienced anything in
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the wrestling other than
really being a fan.
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My name's B. Brian Blair,and I've been wrestling for...
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a long time.
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I knew Herb Abrams
from the very beginning.
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He asked me if I wanted
to come work for him.
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I thought, well, you know,
this is a...
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a great way back to kind of
the WWE without the pressure
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of wrestling 67 days in a rowand it was perfect for me.
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With the exhilaration
of an obsessive fan,
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Herb officially launches
the UWF at the convention,
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with a press conference
laying out his grand plans
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for global domination.
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It was really designed to
kind of introduce his vision
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and announce some of the
performers that were
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gonna be associated with him.
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But, it turned into
more of a circus.
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There was an angle betweenDan Spivey and B. Brian Blair.
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There were tables torn,
there were glasses thrown.
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[Announcer]
And look at this!
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He introduced as his booker
Jack Black Mulligan who,
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at the time,
was incarcerated.
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[John] And, he mentioned thathe was gonna be using
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Bruiser Brody as
one of his top stars,
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but Bruiser Brody had
been murdered a year ago.
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It was far-fetched, but it
wasn't because
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the entire wrestling businessis far-fetched.
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His belief in his own words
made people around him
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want to believe and, you know,when he's telling you,
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"This is going to be one of thegreatest wrestling promotions,"
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I thought, this is the
man who's going to mix
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Hollywood and sports
entertainment in a way that
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not even Mr. McMahon
had done.
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Exploding out of
the convention,
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Herb's pure force of
personality has bought him
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a roster of eager wrestlers, each with the high
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expectations of a man
who is a complete mystery.
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I didn't know a whole lot
about who Herb Abrams was.
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I knew that he was a
business man of some kind.
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He was working with
the stock market.
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He told me he was in
the clothing industry.
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I have no idea
what Herb Abrams did.
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I, I really don't know.
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Herb owned clothing companiesin New York city called,
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I'm A Big Girl Now.
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It was all these beautiful
dresses that you wouldn't
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have thought would have been
for these oversized women.
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My name is Lenny Duge.
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I worked at NBC for 24 years
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as Head of Post Production
and Quality Control.
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I always wanted to get involvedwith professional wrestling.
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When, when you're a fan,
you have that
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deep desire to want to
be on the inside.
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Herb Abrams was
my best friend.
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We were kindred spirits.
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Herb was in a pair of jeans,
cowboy boots,
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and he was going from
the minute I met him.
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He let me in so quickly
because he didn't have a me.
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He didn't have someone
that could do what I did.
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He believed so much in
what he was doing and
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in what he was selling.
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Herb Abrams' greatest
dream comes to life
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on October 1st 1990,
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when the UWF Fury Hour
debuts on cable television.
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[Announcer] There's
excitement in the air
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throughout this capacity crowd.
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This is the
premiere of the UWF.
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We were in
Reseda, California.
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It was, it was a nice setup.
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It was a small venue,
but it was sold out.
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[Mick] We were believing
in Herb's vision.
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I didn't know where
it might take us,
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but I resolved to enjoy it.
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This is Cactus Jack,
and I would rather
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hurt a man than love a woman.
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He had guys that hadrecently parted with WWF and so,
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they were fresh and hot
on the television.
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[Mick] Herb Abrams had what Ithought was arguably
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more star power than
WWE at that time.
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Guys like Paul Orndorff,
who'd drawn an
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enormous amount of money.
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[Rick] Then he had
Steve "Dr. Death" Williams.
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Captain Lou Albano.
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[Mick] Danny Spivey and
then Bob Orton.
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It brought instant
credibility to the UWF,
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having these big
names onboard with us.
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[Announcer]
It's coming, wrestling fans,
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the Orndorff Pile Driver!
Boom!
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Taking a hands-off approach, Herb empowers his talent
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with creative freedoms
they'd never had before.
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It was a lot looser in Herb
Abrams' territory than
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it was in Vince's
where, you know,
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you had to walk like
you did in the army.
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I went from feeling like
I had been wrestling with
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handcuffs on to feeling
like I had total freedom.
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I thought it was
something special.
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I thought I got in on the
ground floor of
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the infancy of the show.
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I knew that I was heading
for stardom, you know.
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I knew that Herb was
gonna give me that big push.
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Everybody was happy and...
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things were good.
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With his dream of becoming a big-time promoter within reach,
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Herb seeks to align
with the one man who can
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fast track his success
in the wrestling world.
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[Lenny] Herb met withVince McMahon and said to him,
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"You want the east coast
and the central,
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and it's all yours.
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What about if I promote
the west coast for you?"
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And Vince McMahon
blew him off.
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Rejected by
wrestling's king,
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Herb's attitude towards the
WWF evolves into
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a desire for utter domination.
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In order to compete,
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he looks to expand
the UWF roster.
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Do you think they'd let us?
You shut up!
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You shut up, I'm talking!
I am a manger, for God sake.
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I am the man who has
to bring them to glory!
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I'm Marty Yesberg. I'm from
Gaffney, South Carolina.
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And, back in the 80s,
I was branded The Colonel
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by Jimmy "The Boogie
Woogie Man" Valiant.
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In the dressing room,
we kept hearing about...
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this mark,
out in California,
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who had tons of money and
was putting together
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a TV show called The UWF.
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He flew us all
out to California.
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He set me up in this
two-bedroom estate hotel,
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Beverly Hills.
And it was...
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all that and a bag of chips.
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And we wasn't
working for him.
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Understand, we was
just going to meet him.
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You know, I'm like, wow.
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That night, he knocks
on the door and,
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he has two high end call girls.
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We're not talking about
South Carolina
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snaggletooth call girls.
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We're talking about
Hollywood honeys.
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He brings these girls
into my suite,
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that I thought was my suite,
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and I'm drooling all over
myself because I mean,
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I'm thinking, I don't even
get to see women like this
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much less, you know...
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have this
delivered to my room.
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And, in the process,he broke out a little mirror.
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And, he had his
nose candy with him.
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The only thing I can
think of is, you know,
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SWAT teams are gonna be
knocking down the door here
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in a minute and we got
two high price hookers
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and cocaine everywhere.
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I didn't know how to
get out of the room.
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I really and truly
wanted out of that room.
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I'm in California,
I'm on his dime...
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I can't call the police.
Hell, the room's in my name!
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So, I kind of just sat over
in the corner and, you know,
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I mean, it was like a live
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pornography session and...
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it was a very long night.
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♪
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This is my pride and joy.
This is the original
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Television Championship belt
for Sports Channel.
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It says UWF on
both sides and,
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when you hold it
like this, it was...
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fuck you to Vince McMahon,
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that's what the "FU"
was standing for.
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So, when he
would hold it up,
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Herb would hold it up,
he knew that he was
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telling Vince McMahon to...
have himself.
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Herb's vision for the UWF was toput the WWF out of business.
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I mean, he was that cocky.
273
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Herb was doing everything
in power to intentionally
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needle McMahon and
to piss 'em off.
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He wanted to squash Vince.
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He wouldn't even be happy
with peaceful coexistence.
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I think he just wanted
to put the guy down.
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With rival WWF
far out of view,
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Herb Abrams takes the
opportunity to launch
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his first attack,
bringing in one of
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Vince McMahon's
most prized attractions.
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Herb calls me and
he's so excited.
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He goes, "Lenny, get here
as fast as you can.
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I'm not gonna tell
you who's sitting here,
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but this is the best thing."
286
00:13:26,022 --> 00:13:27,332
Now, when I came
out here before,
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I said I had a surprise.
Something special...
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something that onlyUniversal Wrestling Federation
289
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can handle...
290
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The 12th wonder
of the world,
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here he is, Andre the Giant!
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Yes, this is true,
Andre the Giant has signed
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a long-term contract with theUniversal Wrestling Federation.
294
00:13:47,827 --> 00:13:48,997
Well, he's not in
his prime anymore
295
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as everybody knows, but...
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- He will be wrestling, John.- He will be wrestling?
297
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He will be wrestling.
298
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They had Andre the Giant...
299
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Andre the Giant had come in.
300
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It was just colossal to have
him walk down to the ring.
301
00:14:01,188 --> 00:14:02,928
Even though we
maybe had 200,
302
00:14:02,972 --> 00:14:06,632
300 people in the audience,
they were all standing,
303
00:14:06,671 --> 00:14:09,851
and they knew
that we had hit.
304
00:14:09,892 --> 00:14:14,722
I want to ask you one thing:
What does UWF mean?
305
00:14:14,766 --> 00:14:17,986
And after Andre made
that appearance for UWF,
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00:14:18,031 --> 00:14:19,681
Vince McMahon got on the
phone and called him and
307
00:14:19,728 --> 00:14:21,118
brought him right back in.
308
00:14:21,164 --> 00:14:22,344
The 8th wonder
of the world...
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- Andre the Giant!
- [cheering]
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This is going to be
very, very interesting.
311
00:14:30,173 --> 00:14:33,263
The embarrassment of
losing Andre the Giant is
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00:14:33,307 --> 00:14:36,567
an enormous blow to
Herb's plan for dominance.
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00:14:36,614 --> 00:14:39,924
Without McMahon's riches,
Herb responds by throwing
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00:14:39,966 --> 00:14:44,796
every gimmick in the book to gain the attention of fans.
315
00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,360
Herb would think of
things on the fly,
316
00:14:47,408 --> 00:14:49,188
change things on the fly.
317
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- Ladies and gentlemen...
- What?
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00:14:50,628 --> 00:14:53,538
This is a disgrace!
I am reversing the decision!
319
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As long as it
entertained Herb,
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00:14:55,633 --> 00:14:57,813
he thought it was
entertaining the world.
321
00:14:57,853 --> 00:15:00,383
The Viking is back.
I told you I'm gonna hurt
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00:15:00,421 --> 00:15:02,471
every pencil-neck,
every pipsqueak.
323
00:15:02,510 --> 00:15:04,210
I want a cage match!
324
00:15:04,251 --> 00:15:05,641
Give me a strap match!
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00:15:05,687 --> 00:15:07,947
Give me a strap match,
no holds barred.
326
00:15:07,994 --> 00:15:10,394
I don't think he had
the knowledge, you know,
327
00:15:10,431 --> 00:15:12,481
to really take it to
the next level.
328
00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:13,700
[Commentator]
Southside flip.
329
00:15:13,738 --> 00:15:15,698
He went for a southside flip
and he missed.
330
00:15:15,740 --> 00:15:17,390
[Brian] If you don't understandthe psychology,
331
00:15:17,438 --> 00:15:19,608
if you don't understand
how each guy works,
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00:15:19,657 --> 00:15:21,747
what their strengths are,
what their weaknesses are,
333
00:15:21,790 --> 00:15:24,530
how to put them together,who they worked the best with,
334
00:15:24,575 --> 00:15:27,665
then, you are never
going to be successful.
335
00:15:27,709 --> 00:15:30,759
Running out of ideas,
Herb turns to yet another
336
00:15:30,799 --> 00:15:33,979
new strategy to
invigorate the UWF.
337
00:15:34,020 --> 00:15:35,410
What made you come to this--
338
00:15:35,456 --> 00:15:38,146
Who is this overgrown Smurf hereasking me questions?
339
00:15:38,198 --> 00:15:40,978
I beg your pardon?!
I beg your pardon?!
340
00:15:41,027 --> 00:15:44,027
I said, who is this overgrownSmurf asking me questions?
341
00:15:44,073 --> 00:15:46,773
It's interesting what happensto a promotion when the,
342
00:15:46,815 --> 00:15:50,035
when the boss becomes the,you know, the star of the show.
343
00:15:50,079 --> 00:15:52,819
Welcome back to another
night of The Fury Hour.
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I'm Herb Abrams, and again,
345
00:15:54,127 --> 00:15:55,777
we've got a powerful show
for you tonight.
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00:15:55,824 --> 00:15:58,094
He was writing the checks,
so Herb could do anything
347
00:15:58,131 --> 00:16:00,441
that he wanted to do because
it was Herb's world and
348
00:16:00,481 --> 00:16:02,001
we were just living in it.
349
00:16:02,048 --> 00:16:04,958
You think about it!
You think about it!
350
00:16:05,007 --> 00:16:06,697
'Cause you're the
one that wanted it,
351
00:16:06,748 --> 00:16:08,048
and now you've got it!
352
00:16:08,097 --> 00:16:10,967
All I saw was money, TV.
353
00:16:11,013 --> 00:16:17,373
I was open to anything to getthe exposure that I was after.
354
00:16:17,411 --> 00:16:22,811
He saw a way to get heat
and actually be on camera,
355
00:16:22,851 --> 00:16:26,381
and have a feud between
The Colonel and
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00:16:26,420 --> 00:16:28,940
the owner of the organization.
357
00:16:28,988 --> 00:16:31,078
[Commentator]
What's Herb doing?
358
00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,040
Herb took him down!
359
00:16:33,079 --> 00:16:36,259
Herb Abrams may
have a new career, folks!
360
00:16:36,299 --> 00:16:38,169
[Marty] I knew as long as
he was part of it,
361
00:16:38,214 --> 00:16:39,564
he would keep me around.
362
00:16:39,607 --> 00:16:41,037
[Commentator]
Herb Abrams...
363
00:16:41,087 --> 00:16:43,087
he hit him right in
the head with that cane.
364
00:16:43,132 --> 00:16:44,612
And another one!
365
00:16:44,655 --> 00:16:48,045
Colonel, no one has everdone something like this to me!
366
00:16:48,094 --> 00:16:51,884
I am going to get you,
once and for all!
367
00:16:51,923 --> 00:16:53,973
Herb attempts to get one
over McMahon by
368
00:16:54,013 --> 00:16:57,583
emulating one of WWF's
most lucrative ventures,
369
00:16:57,625 --> 00:16:59,235
merchandising.
370
00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:02,539
Everybody's buzzing
over the UWF merchandise!
371
00:17:02,586 --> 00:17:05,716
Call the UWF PowerLine, now.
372
00:17:05,763 --> 00:17:09,553
Introducing the UWF
Superstars cookies.
373
00:17:09,593 --> 00:17:13,293
We've got the Steve Ray
"Wild Thing" cookie.
374
00:17:13,336 --> 00:17:15,686
The Steve Williams cookie.
375
00:17:15,730 --> 00:17:18,690
And, coming soon,
the Herbie cookie.
376
00:17:18,733 --> 00:17:21,083
Herbie cookies.
Herbie.
377
00:17:21,127 --> 00:17:24,387
Let me repeat that for you,
Herbie cookies.
378
00:17:24,434 --> 00:17:26,484
He also wanted
the ice cream bar,
379
00:17:26,523 --> 00:17:28,873
but the cookies, they were,
they were great.
380
00:17:28,917 --> 00:17:31,657
Now, let's not forget the
B. Brian Blair cookie.
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00:17:31,702 --> 00:17:33,492
It's honey-flavored.
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00:17:33,530 --> 00:17:36,060
Herb is in desperate need
of a power play when
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00:17:36,098 --> 00:17:39,188
his television contract
starts slipping away.
384
00:17:39,232 --> 00:17:41,062
Beach Brawl!
The battle that crowned the
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00:17:41,103 --> 00:17:42,843
Sports Channel
Television Champion!
386
00:17:42,887 --> 00:17:45,237
Pay Per View. $14.95.
387
00:17:45,281 --> 00:17:47,241
The UWF Beach Brawl.
388
00:17:47,283 --> 00:17:49,373
Call your cable
operator today!
389
00:17:49,416 --> 00:17:51,676
When I heard that Herb was
putting out a Pay Per View,
390
00:17:51,722 --> 00:17:53,992
it seemed like the
breakthrough moment.
391
00:17:54,029 --> 00:17:55,549
And it was
proven by the WWF,
392
00:17:55,596 --> 00:17:57,026
it was proven by WCW.
393
00:17:57,076 --> 00:17:59,426
That's where they made the
majority of their income,
394
00:17:59,469 --> 00:18:00,909
was through their
Pay Per View events,
395
00:18:00,949 --> 00:18:02,729
and to Herb,
to step into that arena,
396
00:18:02,777 --> 00:18:05,517
maybe he was
expecting to roll the dice,
397
00:18:05,562 --> 00:18:09,522
get lucky, and then
finance the whole operation.
398
00:18:09,566 --> 00:18:12,566
High expectations for the
UWF's inaugural
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00:18:12,613 --> 00:18:14,883
Pay Per View
weigh heavily on Herb.
400
00:18:14,919 --> 00:18:16,969
Instead of holding the
Beach Brawl in
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00:18:17,008 --> 00:18:21,578
a largely populated area, Herb lands on Palmetto, Florida,
402
00:18:21,622 --> 00:18:25,192
over an hour away from
the closest major city.
403
00:18:25,234 --> 00:18:27,674
Palmetto Manatee Civic Centerwas a nice venue.
404
00:18:27,715 --> 00:18:30,145
I mean, WWF does
TV tapings out of there.
405
00:18:30,196 --> 00:18:31,366
I think that's one of
the reasons why
406
00:18:31,414 --> 00:18:32,594
Herb picked that place.
407
00:18:32,633 --> 00:18:35,073
Herb said that he
had every newspaper,
408
00:18:35,114 --> 00:18:36,904
he had every
radio station...
409
00:18:36,941 --> 00:18:39,211
everyone was gonna give
it a push to help him.
410
00:18:39,248 --> 00:18:41,728
Of course, we're real excitedabout the Beach Brawl and
411
00:18:41,772 --> 00:18:45,042
I would highly suggest
that people call to secure
412
00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,690
Beach Brawl right
in their living room because
413
00:18:47,735 --> 00:18:51,125
it will be just that,
a brawl at the beach.
414
00:18:51,173 --> 00:18:53,613
Hopefully, millions of
fans watching the show.
415
00:18:53,654 --> 00:18:56,054
I go, and I look
at this building,
416
00:18:56,091 --> 00:18:57,571
and I know that there's
no way in hell
417
00:18:57,614 --> 00:18:59,404
we can sell this building out.
418
00:18:59,442 --> 00:19:02,972
Building was a mince.
Building was bigger than
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00:19:03,011 --> 00:19:05,881
any building I had ever
seen in my entire life.
420
00:19:05,927 --> 00:19:11,147
And, I knew damn well that wedidn't sell this building out.
421
00:19:11,193 --> 00:19:13,203
Somebody screwed up.
422
00:19:13,239 --> 00:19:15,109
♪
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00:19:17,982 --> 00:19:21,992
With the UWF's first Pay Per View event just days away,
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00:19:22,030 --> 00:19:24,950
promoter Herb Abrams
indulges in Florida's
425
00:19:24,989 --> 00:19:29,389
nightlife scene, letting it
get the better of him.
426
00:19:29,429 --> 00:19:31,429
They talk about those people
that work hard, play hard.
427
00:19:31,474 --> 00:19:32,954
That was Herb Abrams.
428
00:19:32,997 --> 00:19:35,087
[off-screen] What was his drugof choice, would you say?
429
00:19:35,130 --> 00:19:38,220
Um...
430
00:19:38,264 --> 00:19:41,484
Obviously, it was cocaine.
431
00:19:41,528 --> 00:19:46,188
There were more drugs
back in the late 80s,
432
00:19:46,228 --> 00:19:50,708
early 90s than any other timein the history of pro wrestling.
433
00:19:50,754 --> 00:19:52,584
That was just, like,
debauchery down there.
434
00:19:52,626 --> 00:19:54,796
I mean, they were staying up
around the clock, partying.
435
00:19:54,845 --> 00:19:57,665
It was like one, big party
for some of the guys.
436
00:19:57,718 --> 00:20:02,588
When I got to Florida,he was in his hotel room and,
437
00:20:02,636 --> 00:20:04,376
he had been partying.
438
00:20:04,420 --> 00:20:08,250
I found Herb to be in really,really bad shape, and
439
00:20:08,294 --> 00:20:10,604
I said to him, "You've gotta
straighten yourself out.
440
00:20:10,644 --> 00:20:13,084
We've got this goddamn
Pay Per View to do.
441
00:20:13,124 --> 00:20:15,654
You're' gonna kill yourself
like you're doing this."
442
00:20:15,692 --> 00:20:19,782
"Ah, you know, Len,
it's the stress I'm under."
443
00:20:19,827 --> 00:20:22,217
And I said to him, "Herb,when we're finished with this,
444
00:20:22,264 --> 00:20:24,054
we gotta get
you into the rehab.
445
00:20:24,092 --> 00:20:27,972
If you don't go into rehab,
I can't do this with you."
446
00:20:28,009 --> 00:20:31,189
Herb's distractions from the Beach Brawl comes to a head
447
00:20:31,230 --> 00:20:35,500
as he arrives to find thousands of empty seats at the arena.
448
00:20:35,538 --> 00:20:39,718
They had to cut the,
the auditorium lights down
449
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,680
to do the TV show...
450
00:20:41,718 --> 00:20:43,808
so nobody would know
there was nobody there.
451
00:20:43,851 --> 00:20:49,641
That's Pay Per View.
That was a Pay Per View.
452
00:20:49,683 --> 00:20:51,823
When I saw how few people
were in the audience,
453
00:20:51,859 --> 00:20:53,819
I said to Herb,
"How can this be?"
454
00:20:53,861 --> 00:20:56,261
And he said,
"Somebody screwed up."
455
00:20:56,298 --> 00:20:58,078
He tried to keep upbeat and
he was in there doing the
456
00:20:58,126 --> 00:20:59,516
ring announcing
and his thing,
457
00:20:59,562 --> 00:21:00,962
but I think that
really hurt him.
458
00:21:00,998 --> 00:21:02,738
Brian, I'm gonna go
with the Doc.
459
00:21:02,783 --> 00:21:04,353
I'm gonna go with the Doc.
460
00:21:04,393 --> 00:21:07,313
So, Herb Abrams going with
Steve "Dr. Death" Williams.
461
00:21:07,353 --> 00:21:09,403
He was running in and out
of the bathroom a lot
462
00:21:09,442 --> 00:21:13,402
that night so, obviously,he was doing a lot of cocaine.
463
00:21:13,446 --> 00:21:15,136
[Rick] It was the worst
Pay Per View, I think,
464
00:21:15,186 --> 00:21:16,796
in Pay Per View history.
465
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:21,800
He got like a 0.01,
you know, buy rate.
466
00:21:21,845 --> 00:21:24,455
That equates to maybe
a hundred--
467
00:21:24,500 --> 00:21:27,020
it's either a hundred
or a thousand people.
468
00:21:27,068 --> 00:21:30,288
It was a financial loss,
a tremendous financial loss.
469
00:21:30,332 --> 00:21:31,812
Nobody was happy.
470
00:21:31,855 --> 00:21:34,945
All the guys were talking,you know, between themselves.
471
00:21:34,989 --> 00:21:36,949
And, they thought it
might be the end of,
472
00:21:36,991 --> 00:21:38,341
you know, the promotion.
473
00:21:38,384 --> 00:21:40,084
I was a glass half full guy.
474
00:21:40,124 --> 00:21:42,134
I would see those empty
seats and I would think that
475
00:21:42,170 --> 00:21:44,430
it was a way to
do cool stuff.
476
00:21:44,477 --> 00:21:49,477
It was really clear that
most of his best intentions
477
00:21:49,525 --> 00:21:51,915
were not going to
come to fruition.
478
00:21:51,962 --> 00:21:54,792
With the event a
financial disaster,
479
00:21:54,835 --> 00:21:57,615
and checks for the talent
starting to bounce,
480
00:21:57,664 --> 00:22:01,764
the UWF wrestlers
confront Herb face-to-face.
481
00:22:01,798 --> 00:22:04,368
I go, knock on
his hotel door...
482
00:22:04,410 --> 00:22:05,980
so I can get my money.
483
00:22:06,020 --> 00:22:09,980
And, the door opens andthere's these two naked girls.
484
00:22:10,024 --> 00:22:13,384
So, not like I hadn't
seen a naked girl before,
485
00:22:13,419 --> 00:22:15,599
but this was a little unusualand then I look and
486
00:22:15,638 --> 00:22:17,288
I see Herb on the bed.
487
00:22:17,336 --> 00:22:19,026
He's naked and
he's laughing,
488
00:22:19,076 --> 00:22:21,426
and I look over and he's got
two big ol' piles of cocaine
489
00:22:21,470 --> 00:22:24,210
on each night stand.
490
00:22:24,255 --> 00:22:26,515
It's a picture that's
forever etched in my mind.
491
00:22:26,562 --> 00:22:28,132
So, he tells
those girls to leave,
492
00:22:28,172 --> 00:22:30,002
and as they're
getting dressed,
493
00:22:30,044 --> 00:22:33,094
Herb writes 'em a
check for $2,000, each.
494
00:22:33,134 --> 00:22:36,364
I thought, golly,
$2,000, you know,
495
00:22:36,398 --> 00:22:39,358
this guy's crazy,blowing money on cocaine and,
496
00:22:39,401 --> 00:22:42,011
and hookers.
I mean, how long is...
497
00:22:42,056 --> 00:22:44,706
how long is this
promotion gonna last?
498
00:22:44,754 --> 00:22:46,634
I had a guy tell me
one day, he said,
499
00:22:46,669 --> 00:22:48,189
"You know this is
a runaway train."
500
00:22:48,236 --> 00:22:50,586
I said, "No, bro,
this is a train wreck,
501
00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:52,630
and all they're trying to do
now is just figure out
502
00:22:52,675 --> 00:22:55,545
if there's any survivors."
503
00:22:55,591 --> 00:22:58,121
Herb Abrams' connections
in the wrestling world
504
00:22:58,159 --> 00:22:59,729
start to dry up.
505
00:22:59,769 --> 00:23:02,769
Many of the wrestlers
stiffed on pay are refusing
506
00:23:02,816 --> 00:23:06,336
to work while Herb's
vices are taking hold.
507
00:23:06,385 --> 00:23:10,075
I kept in contact with Herb evenwhen I did not work for Herb.
508
00:23:10,127 --> 00:23:12,297
You could see the wear
and tear on his face.
509
00:23:12,347 --> 00:23:17,127
I mean, between the drugs
and the failing promotion,
510
00:23:17,178 --> 00:23:20,488
it was really
taking a toll on Herb.
511
00:23:20,529 --> 00:23:23,489
I don't think he was
keeping up with money.
512
00:23:23,532 --> 00:23:25,752
I don't think it
mattered to him,
513
00:23:25,795 --> 00:23:29,055
as long as the
party continues.
514
00:23:29,103 --> 00:23:32,543
In Spartanburg,
South Carolina, he pulled...
515
00:23:32,585 --> 00:23:34,715
a fast one.
516
00:23:34,761 --> 00:23:39,031
So, the day of
the show arrives.
517
00:23:39,069 --> 00:23:43,119
TV crew gets thereabout 12 o'clock. Herb's there.
518
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,080
And, they said, "We need
to get a check from you
519
00:23:47,121 --> 00:23:49,471
for tonight's show."
Herb says,
520
00:23:49,515 --> 00:23:52,605
"Let me get everything set upand I'll cut you a check."
521
00:23:52,648 --> 00:23:58,048
So, we get up to about 4:30,
TV crew came back and said,
522
00:23:58,088 --> 00:24:04,438
"Mr. Abrams, if you don't
give us some money...
523
00:24:04,486 --> 00:24:06,356
we're packing up
and leaving."
524
00:24:06,401 --> 00:24:11,011
Herb says, "Okay.
Let's go up to the office."
525
00:24:11,058 --> 00:24:15,928
They call Herb's bank,
"Ah, Mr. Abrams has
526
00:24:15,976 --> 00:24:19,936
multi-millions of dollars
in this bank account."
527
00:24:19,980 --> 00:24:24,030
Confirms it.
TV crews look at each other.
528
00:24:24,071 --> 00:24:28,211
They said, you know,"You definitely got the money."
529
00:24:28,249 --> 00:24:30,079
He had two bank accounts.
530
00:24:30,120 --> 00:24:34,120
He had one that was filthy richand then he had the
531
00:24:34,168 --> 00:24:37,168
other bank account that
he cut his check on
532
00:24:37,214 --> 00:24:40,524
that had no money in it.
533
00:24:40,566 --> 00:24:45,006
Herb worked something out
where they accepted a check.
534
00:24:45,048 --> 00:24:47,008
And I told them,
"Don't accept a check
535
00:24:47,050 --> 00:24:48,790
if you don't want to
accept a check."
536
00:24:48,835 --> 00:24:50,575
And they accepted a check.
537
00:24:50,619 --> 00:24:53,969
All hell broke loose.
538
00:24:54,014 --> 00:24:57,024
Some of the guys that had
worked that show threatened
539
00:24:57,060 --> 00:25:02,410
to throw Herb off the
fifth-floor balcony,
540
00:25:02,457 --> 00:25:05,977
and that's when reality
hit me upside the head.
541
00:25:06,026 --> 00:25:07,546
I was hiding out.
542
00:25:07,593 --> 00:25:09,033
I had people
calling my phone,
543
00:25:09,072 --> 00:25:12,292
I mean, they were wanting
to kill me for being
544
00:25:12,336 --> 00:25:14,856
associated with the company.
545
00:25:14,904 --> 00:25:17,174
♪
546
00:25:21,737 --> 00:25:24,957
As UWF leader, Herb Abrams,
is now forced to
547
00:25:25,001 --> 00:25:29,441
promote shows in smaller towns, his party lifestyle grows
548
00:25:29,484 --> 00:25:34,234
more intense and his grasp on reality begins to slip.
549
00:25:34,271 --> 00:25:38,361
He would get in this paranoiastate where he would
550
00:25:38,406 --> 00:25:40,966
swear that there was someone
with a bug, you know,
551
00:25:41,017 --> 00:25:42,577
in his hotel room.
552
00:25:42,628 --> 00:25:45,458
I seen him paranoid
several times and,
553
00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:47,240
I'd ask, "What's wrong?"
And he'd, like,
554
00:25:47,284 --> 00:25:48,904
just stare around and
look around and say,
555
00:25:48,938 --> 00:25:51,418
"I think they're outside."
And I said, "Who?"
556
00:25:51,462 --> 00:25:53,202
He goes, "They're watching us."I said, "Who?"
557
00:25:53,247 --> 00:25:54,897
And he would never
tell me who it was.
558
00:25:54,944 --> 00:25:57,124
I don't know who he
felt was recording him,
559
00:25:57,164 --> 00:25:59,564
whether it be the police,
whether it be the hookers,
560
00:25:59,601 --> 00:26:01,341
whether it be the pimps.
561
00:26:01,385 --> 00:26:03,465
And I'm thinking, no
one's spying on you, Herb.
562
00:26:03,518 --> 00:26:06,478
It's the drugs talking.
563
00:26:06,521 --> 00:26:10,661
He would go through the
furniture and look for
564
00:26:10,699 --> 00:26:13,619
microphones or cameras,
565
00:26:13,659 --> 00:26:16,439
and he'd tear the furniture up,just tear it up to bits.
566
00:26:16,487 --> 00:26:19,707
For some reason, he had a
fascination with cushions.
567
00:26:19,752 --> 00:26:23,672
And, if there was a zipper,
he'd open them up...
568
00:26:23,712 --> 00:26:26,152
And, he'd just start
ripping through them.
569
00:26:26,193 --> 00:26:27,983
I mean, he just
ripped them out and,
570
00:26:28,021 --> 00:26:29,631
you know, and when
that was ripped out,
571
00:26:29,675 --> 00:26:31,415
he'd go to the next one.
572
00:26:31,459 --> 00:26:33,679
All the feathers would
have been all over the room.
573
00:26:33,722 --> 00:26:37,122
I mean, you know,
he wanted everything.
574
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,770
That paranoia thing...
575
00:26:39,815 --> 00:26:42,775
it concerned me because
576
00:26:42,818 --> 00:26:44,948
there was some truth
behind some of that.
577
00:26:44,994 --> 00:26:49,654
[Marty] Is, he would go
over to the door,
578
00:26:49,695 --> 00:26:52,085
and the peep hole...
579
00:26:52,132 --> 00:26:55,052
and he would look through thepeep hole like this right here.
580
00:26:55,091 --> 00:26:58,401
Now, you gotta understand,
here's this 5-foot tall,
581
00:26:58,442 --> 00:27:02,802
little naked Jewish
fella with cowboy boots.
582
00:27:02,838 --> 00:27:04,228
That's the one thing
he didn't take off,
583
00:27:04,274 --> 00:27:10,504
was his cowboy boots.
And he's going, "Sh. Sh."
584
00:27:10,541 --> 00:27:12,461
I said, "What's wrong, Herb?"
585
00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:14,630
[whispers] "They're coming.
They're coming.
586
00:27:14,676 --> 00:27:18,376
You can hear them.
They're coming. Sh..."
587
00:27:18,419 --> 00:27:20,419
[off-screen] What are you
thinking around this time?
588
00:27:20,464 --> 00:27:23,514
Oh...
589
00:27:23,554 --> 00:27:26,824
Yeah, they're
probably coming.
590
00:27:26,862 --> 00:27:30,262
Herb's problems escalate
further when he tries to
591
00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:32,430
put one over on the
wrong people.
592
00:27:32,476 --> 00:27:34,086
Here he is,
he's with this girl
593
00:27:34,130 --> 00:27:36,570
who he's supposed to pay up.
And, he's doing this,
594
00:27:36,611 --> 00:27:38,401
"Well, I'll give you a check,"type thing.
595
00:27:38,439 --> 00:27:40,049
"No, you're supposed
to give me cash."
596
00:27:40,093 --> 00:27:44,103
She's not falling for it.
Boom, door breaks down.
597
00:27:44,140 --> 00:27:47,800
Thugs there.
Herb's eyes pop out.
598
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,930
He goes and throws himself
through a window.
599
00:27:51,974 --> 00:27:54,934
I literally get a phone
call from him in California,
600
00:27:54,977 --> 00:27:57,107
he's running through a
neighborhood, naked.
601
00:27:57,153 --> 00:27:59,373
-And he's like, "What do I do?
-What do I do?"
602
00:27:59,416 --> 00:28:03,066
And I said, "Make yourself
visible. I don't care.
603
00:28:03,116 --> 00:28:07,856
Make people see you.
Get arrested. Go to jail."
604
00:28:07,903 --> 00:28:09,913
And, that probably wouldn't
have been a smart thing
605
00:28:09,949 --> 00:28:11,859
because she probably had
contacts in there as well,
606
00:28:11,907 --> 00:28:13,557
but anyway...
607
00:28:13,604 --> 00:28:16,874
Herb's excessive lifestyle has finally reached its limit,
608
00:28:16,912 --> 00:28:19,312
and his activities
in wrestling cease.
609
00:28:19,349 --> 00:28:23,439
Any comeback for the UWF
seems near impossible.
610
00:28:23,484 --> 00:28:26,574
Meanwhile, his old rival,
Vince McMahon,
611
00:28:26,617 --> 00:28:30,487
stages one of his most flamboyant events yet.
612
00:28:30,534 --> 00:28:33,544
The spectacle of
WrestleMania IX shows
613
00:28:33,581 --> 00:28:38,151
Las Vegas casinos that wrestling can be a huge draw.
614
00:28:38,194 --> 00:28:42,204
For Herb, it opens the door
to a golden opportunity
615
00:28:42,242 --> 00:28:47,162
in the city of second chances, his first event in over a year,
616
00:28:47,203 --> 00:28:49,253
The Black Jack Brawl.
617
00:28:49,292 --> 00:28:53,862
What better way to showcase
your product than in
618
00:28:53,906 --> 00:28:57,776
one of the preeminent
locations in Las Vegas,
619
00:28:57,823 --> 00:29:00,223
or in the world
for that matter?
620
00:29:00,260 --> 00:29:04,090
For Herb to pull off
the MGM grand, it's...
621
00:29:04,133 --> 00:29:06,183
it's a wager city,
it's a betting city.
622
00:29:06,222 --> 00:29:09,012
So, obviously, he got
somebody to take the bet.
623
00:29:09,051 --> 00:29:11,051
That was his deal.
That was his motif.
624
00:29:11,097 --> 00:29:12,397
That's what he did.
625
00:29:12,446 --> 00:29:14,446
And he would go for the
biggest freaking bite
626
00:29:14,491 --> 00:29:16,581
he could get and he'd take it.
627
00:29:16,624 --> 00:29:19,584
He was spending an enormous
amount of money on
628
00:29:19,627 --> 00:29:21,977
the talent that he was
bringing in for it.
629
00:29:22,021 --> 00:29:25,811
It was a loaded show
with big, big names.
630
00:29:25,851 --> 00:29:28,811
And it just
seemed like a party.
631
00:29:28,854 --> 00:29:32,164
The night before the show,
Herb brings me up
632
00:29:32,205 --> 00:29:35,945
to his penthouse suite.
When I saw the suite,
633
00:29:35,991 --> 00:29:38,951
I believed that MGM was
gonna be packed.
634
00:29:38,994 --> 00:29:42,744
I was thinking 17,000 people
packed to the rafters.
635
00:29:42,781 --> 00:29:45,131
I mean, this overlooked
the whole city.
636
00:29:45,174 --> 00:29:48,794
And Herb goes,
"Wait 'til you see this.
637
00:29:48,830 --> 00:29:51,490
People are going to
lose their minds."
638
00:29:51,528 --> 00:29:54,008
♪
639
00:29:54,053 --> 00:29:58,193
He proceeds to pull out a
pair of yellow ostrich skin
640
00:29:58,231 --> 00:30:02,841
cowboy boots that have "UWF"
burnished into the leather.
641
00:30:02,888 --> 00:30:06,328
The fact that he thoughtpeople would lose their minds
642
00:30:06,369 --> 00:30:09,019
over a pair of cowboy boots
was an indicator that
643
00:30:09,068 --> 00:30:11,638
there were issues.
644
00:30:11,679 --> 00:30:15,469
Making their way into
the luxurious MGM Grand,
645
00:30:15,509 --> 00:30:18,159
UWF talent discover,
once again,
646
00:30:18,207 --> 00:30:21,687
that Herb's reach is leagues beyond his grasp.
647
00:30:21,732 --> 00:30:23,002
[Mick]
It was a gorgeous arena.
648
00:30:23,038 --> 00:30:25,868
That night, it was
a gorgeous, empty arena.
649
00:30:25,911 --> 00:30:28,041
[Rick] It was, like, sad to
wrestle in front of,
650
00:30:28,087 --> 00:30:30,177
you know, a couple
hundred people again.
651
00:30:30,219 --> 00:30:33,139
You know, my first match was
in Clarksburg, West Virginia
652
00:30:33,179 --> 00:30:34,439
and we had 300 people,
653
00:30:34,484 --> 00:30:37,754
but we were at the
Clarksburg Armory.
654
00:30:37,792 --> 00:30:40,882
He didn't seem bothered
by what was going on,
655
00:30:40,926 --> 00:30:43,666
almost like it was
part of the grand plan.
656
00:30:43,711 --> 00:30:46,411
Like, okay, those 300 people
are gonna be checking out
657
00:30:46,453 --> 00:30:48,543
my ostrich skin boots.
658
00:30:48,585 --> 00:30:51,275
He was just a bundle ofenergy running here to there,
659
00:30:51,327 --> 00:30:53,067
and he was
involved in everything.
660
00:30:53,112 --> 00:30:56,202
It really was an embarrassmentand, you know,
661
00:30:56,245 --> 00:30:58,805
he was really outrageous
during that show.
662
00:30:58,857 --> 00:31:02,207
He might have been coked up
throughout that entire show.
663
00:31:02,251 --> 00:31:05,211
I mean, he takes the microphoneand he just screams into it,
664
00:31:05,254 --> 00:31:06,564
"Let's hear it for the Jews!"
665
00:31:06,603 --> 00:31:08,263
I mean,
in front of the crowd.
666
00:31:08,301 --> 00:31:09,781
I mean, it was
kind of hilarious.
667
00:31:09,824 --> 00:31:11,524
It was sad....
668
00:31:11,565 --> 00:31:14,435
all, all in the same way.
It was kind of weird.
669
00:31:14,481 --> 00:31:17,961
He was acting
very strangely.
670
00:31:18,006 --> 00:31:19,966
His mannerisms
were different.
671
00:31:20,008 --> 00:31:22,008
The showdown
will take place!
672
00:31:22,054 --> 00:31:25,714
Steve "Dr. Death" Williams
puts the title on the line
673
00:31:25,753 --> 00:31:31,063
against "Malicioius"
Sid Vicious!
674
00:31:31,106 --> 00:31:32,796
Say, I'm happy
to have you as champion,
675
00:31:32,847 --> 00:31:35,497
but I'm glad you
got busted up. Ha!
676
00:31:35,545 --> 00:31:38,285
Herb's not making too
many friends tonight, John.
677
00:31:38,331 --> 00:31:42,601
He was twitching
and jumping and such,
678
00:31:42,639 --> 00:31:44,689
so they all
knew he was high.
679
00:31:44,728 --> 00:31:49,038
On that night, I had a chance towrestle my idol, Jimmy Snuka.
680
00:31:49,081 --> 00:31:53,001
And when Jimmy Snuka andI start heading into the stands,
681
00:31:53,041 --> 00:31:56,571
you know,
16,700 empty seats,
682
00:31:56,610 --> 00:31:59,180
I remember Brian Blair going,"What are you doing?"
683
00:31:59,221 --> 00:32:02,571
I said, "It's Herb's show.
We can do whatever we want."
684
00:32:02,616 --> 00:32:04,096
They're high.
They're way up there!
685
00:32:04,139 --> 00:32:09,359
Ladies and gentlemen, we havea double disqualification!
686
00:32:09,405 --> 00:32:12,755
The downside is that
check did not clear.
687
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,980
He wrote me a check...
688
00:32:15,020 --> 00:32:18,940
It... it bounced.
689
00:32:18,980 --> 00:32:21,420
[Brian]
It was a failure and...
690
00:32:21,461 --> 00:32:23,121
you know, that's gotta hurt.
691
00:32:23,158 --> 00:32:26,638
He had the weight of the
world on his shoulder.
692
00:32:26,683 --> 00:32:30,603
I would never have wanted to beHerb Abrams in his position.
693
00:32:30,644 --> 00:32:33,474
And when he came back, he toldme how successful it was.
694
00:32:33,516 --> 00:32:35,336
"I had the MGM, Len."
695
00:32:35,388 --> 00:32:38,698
"Yeah, you drew 200 people andit was a total clusterfuck."
696
00:32:38,739 --> 00:32:41,349
And he says, "Yeah,
but I had the MGM."
697
00:32:41,394 --> 00:32:43,744
♪
698
00:32:48,227 --> 00:32:51,057
Emotionally and physically
defeated by his failure in
699
00:32:51,099 --> 00:32:54,449
Las Vegas, Herb's dreams
of a wrestling triumph
700
00:32:54,494 --> 00:32:56,764
may finally be over.
701
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,370
The lifestyle took,
took a toll on Herb.
702
00:32:59,412 --> 00:33:03,072
He didn't have the spunkthat he had, that electricity,
703
00:33:03,111 --> 00:33:06,771
constant, constant spark
that made the room glow.
704
00:33:06,810 --> 00:33:09,810
You know, it was like he
aged ten years in two years.
705
00:33:09,857 --> 00:33:14,467
It was such a big deal
that he left LA for good,
706
00:33:14,514 --> 00:33:16,044
he came back to New York.
707
00:33:16,081 --> 00:33:19,521
I thought he, I thought he wasreally cleaning himself up.
708
00:33:19,562 --> 00:33:22,522
So, I get a phone call
from Herb and he goes,
709
00:33:22,565 --> 00:33:24,915
"Len, big things
are happening."
710
00:33:24,959 --> 00:33:27,479
I go, "Herb, are you
sure you're straight?"
711
00:33:27,527 --> 00:33:31,177
He goes, "Len,
I'm perfectly straight."
712
00:33:31,226 --> 00:33:34,526
On July 17th 1996,
713
00:33:34,577 --> 00:33:36,797
longtime friend visits Herb
714
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,840
at his office in
New York city.
715
00:33:38,886 --> 00:33:42,926
This is the last-known
recording of Herb Abrams.
716
00:33:42,977 --> 00:33:47,457
- Hey! Come in.
- Hey! Herbie!
717
00:33:47,503 --> 00:33:49,203
You want to look
around here first?
718
00:33:49,244 --> 00:33:53,074
Yeah, we're looking.
719
00:33:53,118 --> 00:33:56,428
-You know, I can't keep,
-I can't keep a house together
720
00:33:56,469 --> 00:33:58,509
myself 'cause it's,
it's just too much work.
721
00:33:58,558 --> 00:34:00,818
- Are you happy?
- I'm very happy.
722
00:34:00,864 --> 00:34:02,694
- I've never been happier.
- Okay.
723
00:34:02,736 --> 00:34:04,386
Never been happier.
724
00:34:04,433 --> 00:34:06,573
Can we be filming this, or
is this supposed to be a...?
725
00:34:06,609 --> 00:34:08,349
Well, you need to
get a release from me.
726
00:34:08,394 --> 00:34:10,184
[laughs]
727
00:34:10,222 --> 00:34:13,272
Herb appears to have turned a corner on his sobriety,
728
00:34:13,312 --> 00:34:15,102
but his friends
are left in the dark
729
00:34:15,140 --> 00:34:17,710
as he suddenly disappears.
730
00:34:17,751 --> 00:34:20,881
'96, when I was working
in the offices with him,
731
00:34:20,928 --> 00:34:22,498
sometimes, you know,
he'd come in the next day
732
00:34:22,538 --> 00:34:23,708
all hung over.
733
00:34:23,757 --> 00:34:25,147
Sometimes he wouldn't
even come in at all.
734
00:34:25,193 --> 00:34:26,763
Sometimes you wouldn't see
him for a couple days or
735
00:34:26,803 --> 00:34:28,333
hear from him
for a couple days.
736
00:34:28,370 --> 00:34:31,810
So, that was just
Herb being Herb.
737
00:34:31,852 --> 00:34:36,732
I was working at NBC. I got
a call from Stacy, my wife.
738
00:34:36,770 --> 00:34:38,690
And she said, "Lenny,
I have some really,
739
00:34:38,728 --> 00:34:41,778
really bad news.
Sunny Beach called,
740
00:34:41,818 --> 00:34:45,688
and Herb's passed away.
Herb's dead.
741
00:34:45,735 --> 00:34:48,475
Sunny's crying
on the phone."
742
00:34:48,521 --> 00:34:51,131
So, I call Sunny Beachand I go, "What is going on?"
743
00:34:51,176 --> 00:34:52,866
Nobody knew what happened.
744
00:34:52,916 --> 00:34:54,876
And then,
his mother called me up.
745
00:34:54,918 --> 00:34:57,308
And then, it was
just like a...
746
00:34:57,356 --> 00:34:58,746
a blur after that.
747
00:34:58,792 --> 00:35:01,142
I must have cried
for like two hours.
748
00:35:01,186 --> 00:35:05,836
And it was just the hardest
thing to call those men,
749
00:35:05,886 --> 00:35:08,716
and then to hear them
all start to cry.
750
00:35:08,758 --> 00:35:12,588
These super gargantuan,
strong men that you saw
751
00:35:12,632 --> 00:35:17,382
fly across the ring,
all cry over Herb dying,
752
00:35:17,419 --> 00:35:20,639
and me not being
able to almost talk.
753
00:35:20,683 --> 00:35:24,033
On July 23rd 1996,
754
00:35:24,078 --> 00:35:26,908
officers respond to
an unbelievable scene
755
00:35:26,950 --> 00:35:28,870
at the office of
Herb Abrams.
756
00:35:28,909 --> 00:35:31,829
Details are sparse,
and those closest to Herb
757
00:35:31,868 --> 00:35:34,958
would hear varying accounts
of the disturbing events
758
00:35:35,002 --> 00:35:37,532
as they unfolded.
759
00:35:37,570 --> 00:35:39,440
It was kind of like how
someone would say if they
760
00:35:39,485 --> 00:35:42,395
walked into his hotel roomand saw him, you know, naked.
761
00:35:42,444 --> 00:35:45,454
That's, that's a real
shock to some people.
762
00:35:45,491 --> 00:35:49,061
Okay, to me, that was part
of his process of
763
00:35:49,103 --> 00:35:50,453
what he was going through.
764
00:35:50,496 --> 00:35:51,846
[Rick] The night that I
guess he passed away,
765
00:35:51,888 --> 00:35:53,498
he was partying, drinking,
766
00:35:53,542 --> 00:35:55,462
he had a couple of escorts
up there with him.
767
00:35:55,501 --> 00:35:58,201
I heard that he had
done so much cocaine that
768
00:35:58,243 --> 00:36:01,513
he was whacked and,he'd found a baseball bat and
769
00:36:01,550 --> 00:36:04,160
started tearing up the room
that he was in and
770
00:36:04,205 --> 00:36:07,505
just went absolutely berserk.
771
00:36:07,556 --> 00:36:09,516
[John]
I heard that he was covered in
772
00:36:09,558 --> 00:36:12,298
either oil or Vaseline
and cocaine.
773
00:36:12,344 --> 00:36:13,874
It was crazy.
774
00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:16,870
And he was chasing aroundhookers with this baseball bat.
775
00:36:16,913 --> 00:36:19,223
Somebody told me that theescorts tried to rob him, too,
776
00:36:19,264 --> 00:36:20,794
and that's why
he grabbed the bat.
777
00:36:20,830 --> 00:36:22,920
That's a sight
to see, I'm sure.
778
00:36:22,963 --> 00:36:25,793
So, I call Sunny Beach and
I go, "What is going on?"
779
00:36:25,835 --> 00:36:29,095
And he says, "Exactly what
it says in the tabloids,
780
00:36:29,143 --> 00:36:32,763
that Herb was
running around naked,
781
00:36:32,799 --> 00:36:36,889
smashing a baseball bat on
the walls in the office,
782
00:36:36,933 --> 00:36:41,113
chasing a couple of hookerswith coke all over his body."
783
00:36:41,155 --> 00:36:43,545
Had baby oil
all over him and,
784
00:36:43,592 --> 00:36:45,122
I guess somebody
called the police.
785
00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:46,809
I heard somebody
called the police on him.
786
00:36:46,856 --> 00:36:49,726
[Steve] There was rumors likehe got sodomized by police
787
00:36:49,772 --> 00:36:51,082
with their batons.
788
00:36:51,121 --> 00:36:52,381
I mean, I heard
that and I'm going,
789
00:36:52,427 --> 00:36:53,947
"What the hell?"
790
00:36:53,994 --> 00:36:55,604
[Rick] I guess one of the girlsran out of the office and
791
00:36:55,648 --> 00:36:57,868
shut the door behind them andI think he ran into it,
792
00:36:57,911 --> 00:36:59,831
and I think that's
how he passed away.
793
00:36:59,869 --> 00:37:01,959
[John]
When the police showed up,
794
00:37:02,002 --> 00:37:06,182
I heard he had a massive
coronary and died.
795
00:37:06,224 --> 00:37:08,104
And what I'm told is that
796
00:37:08,138 --> 00:37:10,708
he took his clothes off
in the jail and...
797
00:37:10,750 --> 00:37:14,280
he had a seizure
and it killed him.
798
00:37:14,319 --> 00:37:15,889
[Rick] Nobody knew if
he was robbed,
799
00:37:15,929 --> 00:37:18,369
nobody knew if he got
beat up with a baseball bat.
800
00:37:18,410 --> 00:37:20,370
So, there was all kinds
of stories going around
801
00:37:20,412 --> 00:37:22,812
at the time and nobody
knew the true story.
802
00:37:22,849 --> 00:37:25,679
Still, we don't know 'cause
I wasn't there so, you know,
803
00:37:25,721 --> 00:37:27,721
you never believe
everything you hear.
804
00:37:27,767 --> 00:37:30,677
Chasing hookers
around and, you know,
805
00:37:30,726 --> 00:37:32,726
all greased up and...
806
00:37:32,772 --> 00:37:36,252
died in the back
of a police car.
807
00:37:36,297 --> 00:37:38,997
The one thing I know is that
808
00:37:39,039 --> 00:37:45,999
Herb Abrams left this world
doing what he loved...
809
00:37:46,046 --> 00:37:47,996
cocaine and hookers.
810
00:37:48,048 --> 00:37:51,048
♪
811
00:37:54,097 --> 00:37:56,837
The wild and conflicting
circumstances surrounding
812
00:37:56,883 --> 00:38:00,023
Herb Abrams' death
overshadow his already
813
00:38:00,060 --> 00:38:03,280
extreme life and reach
urban legend status
814
00:38:03,324 --> 00:38:05,594
within the wrestling world.
815
00:38:05,631 --> 00:38:08,421
It kind of became folklore.
816
00:38:08,460 --> 00:38:10,460
Everywhere we go,
you get a Herb Abrams story,
817
00:38:10,505 --> 00:38:11,805
you know, and...
818
00:38:11,854 --> 00:38:13,734
some are better than others,
some are true.
819
00:38:13,769 --> 00:38:16,079
Some, you don't
know what to believe.
820
00:38:16,119 --> 00:38:19,339
When they told me he died...
821
00:38:19,384 --> 00:38:23,214
I said, "No, he's faked
his death. He's left.
822
00:38:23,257 --> 00:38:25,127
He's left the country."
823
00:38:25,172 --> 00:38:29,482
And I hate to talk ill of
the dead - if he's dead -
824
00:38:29,524 --> 00:38:32,484
but I had a...
825
00:38:32,527 --> 00:38:35,657
promotion that was down
in Union, South Carolina
826
00:38:35,704 --> 00:38:41,284
that ran under UWF,and this promoter swore to me
827
00:38:41,319 --> 00:38:47,189
that the night of his show,
this little fella
828
00:38:47,237 --> 00:38:52,067
came to the show in blue jeansand cowboy boots and
829
00:38:52,112 --> 00:38:56,812
asked him what the name
of the organization was.
830
00:38:56,856 --> 00:38:59,206
And he swore it.
831
00:38:59,249 --> 00:39:00,509
He said,
"I'm telling you," he said,
832
00:39:00,555 --> 00:39:03,375
"that Herb Abrams
showed up at my show."
833
00:39:03,428 --> 00:39:06,868
And because it said UWF,
this person gave them
834
00:39:06,909 --> 00:39:09,479
the riot act that he
would sue them,
835
00:39:09,521 --> 00:39:13,481
and it was as if Herb
was legitimately alive.
836
00:39:13,525 --> 00:39:16,955
And, I said to Marty,
"Herb's dead."
837
00:39:17,006 --> 00:39:19,176
I question.
838
00:39:19,226 --> 00:39:22,526
[Mick] Herb Abrams couldn't
keep quiet for 30 years.
839
00:39:22,577 --> 00:39:25,357
I mean, maybe he went underwitness protect-- I don't know.
840
00:39:25,406 --> 00:39:27,186
He would find a
way to resurface.
841
00:39:27,234 --> 00:39:31,854
No, I find it completely
unfeasible that Herb Abrams
842
00:39:31,891 --> 00:39:34,981
is alive and not seeking
the limelight somewhere.
843
00:39:35,024 --> 00:39:37,294
And I know that if
he was still alive
844
00:39:37,331 --> 00:39:39,461
he would have come
and found me.
845
00:39:39,507 --> 00:39:43,377
He would have let me
know that he was alive.
846
00:39:43,424 --> 00:39:45,304
He would have...
847
00:39:45,339 --> 00:39:47,039
he would have done
everything he could
848
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,690
to send a message somehow.
849
00:39:49,735 --> 00:39:51,945
He wouldn't have stayed
away 30 years.
850
00:39:51,998 --> 00:39:54,478
♪
851
00:39:54,522 --> 00:39:57,402
He wouldn't have
stayed away 30 years.
852
00:39:57,438 --> 00:39:59,788
[Rick] [sighs]
Herb, we miss you.
853
00:39:59,832 --> 00:40:01,532
Wish you were
still here with us.
854
00:40:01,573 --> 00:40:04,973
♪
855
00:40:05,011 --> 00:40:07,191
You know, could have
been a great thing.
856
00:40:07,230 --> 00:40:08,450
[off-screen]
What's that?
857
00:40:08,493 --> 00:40:11,973
You know, the UWF and...
858
00:40:12,018 --> 00:40:14,758
just what he
was doing, if...
859
00:40:14,803 --> 00:40:16,243
he would have had a
little bit more backing,
860
00:40:16,283 --> 00:40:17,943
a little bit more support,
861
00:40:17,980 --> 00:40:21,380
I think it could have
went a long way.
862
00:40:21,419 --> 00:40:26,469
And now I'm visiting
Herb in a cemetery.
863
00:40:26,511 --> 00:40:29,381
We deal, we cope,
and we go on.
864
00:40:29,427 --> 00:40:32,727
♪
865
00:40:32,778 --> 00:40:35,778
I actually inherited Herb's
dog after he passed away.
866
00:40:37,913 --> 00:40:39,523
Cokey.
867
00:40:39,567 --> 00:40:42,697
It was snow white,
the dog, and it was
868
00:40:42,744 --> 00:40:45,704
laying in the coke and
Herb called it Cokey.
869
00:40:45,747 --> 00:40:48,707
Herb loved that
dog to death.
870
00:40:48,750 --> 00:40:51,620
Herb's style was always
to be a generous guy,
871
00:40:51,666 --> 00:40:53,226
picked up the tab
for everything.
872
00:40:53,276 --> 00:40:57,496
But again, that's easy to do
with other people's money.
873
00:40:57,542 --> 00:40:58,982
If it was his
hard-earned money,
874
00:40:59,021 --> 00:41:01,071
he would still do the same.
875
00:41:01,110 --> 00:41:02,900
[Rick] I think he was justalways trying to prove himself,
876
00:41:02,938 --> 00:41:05,458
always wanting to be liked,
or always wanted to be
877
00:41:05,506 --> 00:41:07,246
somebody to be respected.
878
00:41:07,290 --> 00:41:10,160
But, we all respected him
and we all liked him.
879
00:41:10,206 --> 00:41:12,296
[off-screen] How did you feelafter he passed?
880
00:41:12,339 --> 00:41:15,299
♪
881
00:41:15,342 --> 00:41:20,132
It was a loss of
someone who...
882
00:41:20,173 --> 00:41:22,093
Hm.
883
00:41:22,131 --> 00:41:25,611
♪
884
00:41:25,657 --> 00:41:29,437
Someone who believed in me.
885
00:41:29,487 --> 00:41:34,317
[sniffles]
886
00:41:34,361 --> 00:41:38,541
[sighs] And...
887
00:41:38,583 --> 00:41:41,933
♪
888
00:41:41,977 --> 00:41:45,977
[sniffles]
889
00:41:46,025 --> 00:41:52,335
I have to say that he
truly brought life.
890
00:41:52,379 --> 00:41:55,029
He brought it out of me.
891
00:41:55,077 --> 00:42:03,957
♪
892
00:42:03,999 --> 00:42:05,779
I think Herb should be
remembered as a person who
893
00:42:05,827 --> 00:42:10,137
tried to do something specialin the wrestling industry.
894
00:42:10,179 --> 00:42:14,879
[John] I think Herb Abrams isthis bizarre character who
895
00:42:14,923 --> 00:42:17,143
wanted to become a major playerin the pro wrestling business
896
00:42:17,186 --> 00:42:20,666
and he was never able to succeed'cause he got in his own way,
897
00:42:20,712 --> 00:42:22,282
from his personal demons,
898
00:42:22,322 --> 00:42:24,672
to the way he
ran his business.
899
00:42:24,716 --> 00:42:26,936
[Lenny] The worst thing
that Herb Abrams did,
900
00:42:26,979 --> 00:42:30,769
whether you hear about thathe was involved with hookers or,
901
00:42:30,809 --> 00:42:34,249
or coke, or this,
or not paying people,
902
00:42:34,290 --> 00:42:37,290
the worst thing that Herb Abramsever did to me was die.
903
00:42:37,337 --> 00:42:41,687
It's haunted me for the entiretime of this 30 years and
904
00:42:41,733 --> 00:42:44,303
that's the only reason that
I've ever talked about--
905
00:42:44,344 --> 00:42:48,704
it's the first time I've everlet the secret of the UWF out.
906
00:42:48,740 --> 00:42:53,610
And, you have it, the best thatI could give it to you today.
907
00:42:53,658 --> 00:42:57,708
He had the enthusiasm and
I think the courage
908
00:42:57,749 --> 00:42:59,619
to try to live out his dream.
909
00:42:59,664 --> 00:43:04,974
He was such a diehard fan
that that was his downfall.
910
00:43:05,017 --> 00:43:07,717
He would love the negative
that's on the internet.
911
00:43:07,759 --> 00:43:08,929
He would love it all.
912
00:43:10,892 --> 00:43:16,122
'Cause he was Herb Abrams.
He was a thing unto himself.
913
00:43:16,158 --> 00:43:19,378
I have to believe this is
the way Herb would want it.
914
00:43:19,422 --> 00:43:23,432
Like, maybe he got in death
what he didn't have in life
915
00:43:23,470 --> 00:43:25,990
and that is he
became a legend.
916
00:43:32,697 --> 00:43:34,387
Time.
917
00:43:34,437 --> 00:43:39,697
[laughs]
918
00:43:39,747 --> 00:43:42,917
Yeah, there's no way
Herb's gonna keep his taxes.
919
00:43:42,968 --> 00:43:45,748
I just think he'd be
behind bars.
920
00:43:45,797 --> 00:43:49,097
He would have hurt no one
except himself and,
921
00:43:49,148 --> 00:43:52,928
I'd be visiting him and
we'd be toasting with
922
00:43:52,978 --> 00:43:55,148
a glass of milk and
Herbie cookies.
923
00:43:55,197 --> 00:43:59,067
♪
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