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I looked up to him. 11 00:00:22,892 --> 00:00:26,292 I have never, ever seen a closer friendship 12 00:00:26,330 --> 00:00:28,680 as I did between Chris and Eddie. 13 00:00:28,724 --> 00:00:29,644 [match bell chimes] 14 00:00:29,681 --> 00:00:31,681 Eddie Guerrero has passed away. 15 00:00:31,727 --> 00:00:34,427 My next thought was, oh, my god, Chris. 16 00:00:34,469 --> 00:00:35,949 I love you, Eddie. 17 00:00:35,992 --> 00:00:38,522 He didn't handle it well. Let me just say it like that. 18 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,480 Nancy started getting really worried. 19 00:00:40,518 --> 00:00:42,608 She's like, "I'm really worried for Chris." 20 00:00:42,651 --> 00:00:44,911 I just had this really bad feeling. 21 00:00:44,957 --> 00:00:46,867 We have more for you now on a developing story 22 00:00:46,916 --> 00:00:48,176 in Fayette County. 23 00:00:48,222 --> 00:00:50,792 The deaths of a pro wrestler and his family. 24 00:00:50,833 --> 00:00:53,403 In the immediate wake of Chris Benoit's death, 25 00:00:53,444 --> 00:00:56,454 the world is desperately searching for answers. 26 00:00:56,491 --> 00:00:58,751 What comes to light goes beyond anything 27 00:00:58,797 --> 00:01:00,627 anyone could imagine. 28 00:01:00,669 --> 00:01:02,979 People just couldn't believe it, couldn't fathom that 29 00:01:03,019 --> 00:01:05,279 something like that could happen. 30 00:01:05,326 --> 00:01:07,806 It can't be real. Like, where's my nephew? 31 00:01:07,850 --> 00:01:10,160 That can't have happened because the person that 32 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,460 I knew would not do this horrific thing. 33 00:01:13,508 --> 00:01:15,638 But I think this is gonna be gigantic. 34 00:01:15,684 --> 00:01:17,604 It will affect WWE. 35 00:01:17,642 --> 00:01:20,472 Well, the question is, was he on steroids at this time? 36 00:01:20,515 --> 00:01:23,295 Did the blows to the head Benoit received in the 37 00:01:23,344 --> 00:01:27,134 wrestling ring fundamentally change his brain? 38 00:01:27,174 --> 00:01:30,874 It really, really was the darkest time in my life. 39 00:01:30,916 --> 00:01:36,096 ♪ 40 00:01:37,532 --> 00:01:51,552 ♪ 41 00:01:51,589 --> 00:01:54,199 Fayette County, Georgia is a laid back community. 42 00:01:54,244 --> 00:01:57,774 It's more a family atmosphere. 43 00:01:57,813 --> 00:02:02,173 Not a whole lot of crime. It's pretty peaceful. 44 00:02:02,209 --> 00:02:03,729 My name is Larry Alden. I was... 45 00:02:03,775 --> 00:02:05,515 with the Fayette County Sheriff's Office. 46 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,820 I was the lieutenant in charge of the shift that was 47 00:02:07,866 --> 00:02:10,166 working the day of the Benoit incident. 48 00:02:10,217 --> 00:02:14,437 I had been a detective for about 15 or 20 years. 49 00:02:14,482 --> 00:02:16,832 I'd probably see Chris Benoit once or twice a week 50 00:02:16,875 --> 00:02:20,485 at the gym, which was right in the middle of Fayetteville. 51 00:02:20,531 --> 00:02:22,321 He didn't talk a lot, and he was pretty 52 00:02:22,359 --> 00:02:25,579 focused on getting his workout in. 53 00:02:25,623 --> 00:02:27,193 I never heard anything about him. 54 00:02:27,234 --> 00:02:29,324 I didn't even know where he lived at until 55 00:02:29,366 --> 00:02:31,716 the call came out on the radio that day. 56 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,020 [phone call] My name is Dennis Fagan. 57 00:02:33,065 --> 00:02:34,545 I run the security for World Wrestling, 58 00:02:34,589 --> 00:02:37,069 and one of our wrestlers that lives down there is missing. 59 00:02:37,113 --> 00:02:41,073 [9-1-1] And what's his name? [Dennis] Chris Benoit. 60 00:02:41,117 --> 00:02:43,207 [9-1-1] Okay. And he's a, a wrestler? 61 00:02:43,250 --> 00:02:44,430 [Dennis] Yes, he's-- What happened-- 62 00:02:44,468 --> 00:02:46,118 He's a very religious gentleman and yesterday, 63 00:02:46,166 --> 00:02:47,726 he was supposed to show up at a Pay Per View and 64 00:02:47,776 --> 00:02:49,596 never got on the plane, never showed up. 65 00:02:49,647 --> 00:02:52,217 It's unlike-- it's out of character for him. 66 00:02:52,259 --> 00:02:54,869 [9-1-1] Alright. We'll go ahead and send somebody 67 00:02:54,913 --> 00:02:56,393 out there to check on him. 68 00:02:56,437 --> 00:02:58,347 If you want to call us back in like 45 minutes or so. 69 00:02:58,395 --> 00:03:03,005 If he's there, we'll tell him to give you a call. 70 00:03:03,052 --> 00:03:04,842 [Larry] I was in my patrol car, 71 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,100 just riding around the county and, 72 00:03:07,143 --> 00:03:10,933 was pretty close to the area when the call went out. 73 00:03:10,973 --> 00:03:12,983 I wasn't thinking of anything other than a welfare check, 74 00:03:13,018 --> 00:03:16,018 or maybe he had-- was sick, maybe drunk. 75 00:03:16,065 --> 00:03:18,365 Didn't really know what. 76 00:03:18,415 --> 00:03:21,415 I pulled up on scene about time the neighbor was walking over, 77 00:03:21,462 --> 00:03:23,592 and I walked up to them and I asked if 78 00:03:23,638 --> 00:03:26,728 she had seen Mr. Benoit or anybody. 79 00:03:26,771 --> 00:03:28,341 And she said, "It's been 3 or 4 days 80 00:03:28,382 --> 00:03:31,172 since I've seen anybody over there." 81 00:03:31,211 --> 00:03:33,911 There was two large canines in the yard. 82 00:03:33,952 --> 00:03:36,522 If I remember correctly, they were German Shepherds. 83 00:03:36,564 --> 00:03:39,264 We asked her if there was any place she could put the dogs at 84 00:03:39,306 --> 00:03:42,306 so that we could go up there and do the welfare check. 85 00:03:42,352 --> 00:03:43,922 And she said, "Oh, yeah. 86 00:03:43,962 --> 00:03:45,272 Me and the dogs get along great. 87 00:03:45,312 --> 00:03:48,492 I feed them whenever they're out of town." 88 00:03:48,532 --> 00:03:51,882 And, she jumped the fence. The dogs right there with her. 89 00:03:51,927 --> 00:03:55,057 She walked 'em in there, never had to take a hold to 'em. 90 00:03:55,104 --> 00:03:58,284 It was taking a little longer than I thought it should take, 91 00:03:58,325 --> 00:04:00,275 but then she came running out the door 92 00:04:00,327 --> 00:04:04,547 screaming that, "Daniel's dead. Daniel's dead!" 93 00:04:04,592 --> 00:04:07,202 I went from just being a regular welfare check - 94 00:04:07,247 --> 00:04:09,287 Okay, we got something more serious here. 95 00:04:09,336 --> 00:04:16,466 ♪ 96 00:04:16,517 --> 00:04:18,207 We crossed the fence at that time, 97 00:04:18,258 --> 00:04:20,298 myself, and Deputy Mundy. 98 00:04:20,347 --> 00:04:21,907 And, we went in through the side door, 99 00:04:21,957 --> 00:04:24,127 which she had left open. 100 00:04:24,176 --> 00:04:25,396 We drew our weapons, 101 00:04:25,439 --> 00:04:28,699 not knowing what we was gonna come upon. 102 00:04:28,746 --> 00:04:31,486 It was daylight and they had plenty of windows in the house, 103 00:04:31,532 --> 00:04:34,272 so you had a lot of light coming in. 104 00:04:34,317 --> 00:04:37,057 There was an odor in the house. 105 00:04:37,102 --> 00:04:39,932 And I looked over at Deputy Mundy and said, 106 00:04:39,975 --> 00:04:42,845 "Something is dead in here. 107 00:04:42,891 --> 00:04:45,631 There was a set of stairs going up to a bedroom so, 108 00:04:45,676 --> 00:04:47,456 we went up those steps and sure enough, 109 00:04:47,504 --> 00:04:50,074 that's where the juvenile child was at, 110 00:04:50,115 --> 00:04:51,635 lying in bed. 111 00:04:51,682 --> 00:04:54,512 I noticed the child was laying on the bed, face down. 112 00:04:54,555 --> 00:04:57,465 Deputy Mundy said, "Do we need to start CPR?" 113 00:04:57,514 --> 00:05:00,744 And I said, "No." He'd passed away. 114 00:05:00,778 --> 00:05:04,168 We started clearing all the different rooms and doors. 115 00:05:04,216 --> 00:05:06,826 We found another room and, 116 00:05:06,871 --> 00:05:09,481 that's where we found Miss Benoit at. 117 00:05:09,526 --> 00:05:11,616 She was laying on the floor and she was wrapped up 118 00:05:11,659 --> 00:05:17,099 in a blanket or, maybe a rug or something like that. 119 00:05:17,142 --> 00:05:19,362 Went downstairs to the basement area, 120 00:05:19,406 --> 00:05:22,706 which was couple of large, open rooms. 121 00:05:22,757 --> 00:05:25,407 And, the last door we opened was the gym door. 122 00:05:25,455 --> 00:05:29,285 And, that s where Mr. Benoit was at. 123 00:05:29,329 --> 00:05:33,379 Because of the mirrors and at the angle Deputy Mundy was at, 124 00:05:33,420 --> 00:05:36,160 to my right, she saw the reflection at the 125 00:05:36,205 --> 00:05:38,725 far end of the room, which might have been 5 to 7, 126 00:05:38,773 --> 00:05:41,383 10 feet away from where he actually was. 127 00:05:41,428 --> 00:05:44,258 And she started to say, "Show me your hands. 128 00:05:44,300 --> 00:05:47,040 Fayette County Sheriff's Department." 129 00:05:47,085 --> 00:05:49,825 She could not see he had cable from one of his weight 130 00:05:49,871 --> 00:05:52,831 machines around his neck and had some weights on it. 131 00:05:52,874 --> 00:05:54,144 That's when I told her, I said, 132 00:05:54,179 --> 00:05:56,789 "He's sitting right here. He's passed away." 133 00:05:56,834 --> 00:05:59,364 Radio had called us, asked if everything was okay. 134 00:05:59,402 --> 00:06:00,802 And I told them on the radio that it looked like 135 00:06:00,838 --> 00:06:05,278 it might be a homicide and suicide. 136 00:06:05,321 --> 00:06:09,061 It was within 2 or 3 minutes of us walking back outside 137 00:06:09,107 --> 00:06:11,677 that somebody had already strung crime scene tape 138 00:06:11,719 --> 00:06:14,419 across the front of the property. 139 00:06:14,461 --> 00:06:16,721 I was at the gym and I remember, 140 00:06:16,767 --> 00:06:18,547 I was driving home. My son was with me. 141 00:06:18,595 --> 00:06:23,075 And, I got a call from one of the writers from WWE, 142 00:06:23,121 --> 00:06:24,991 who called me and said, "Are you sitting down?" 143 00:06:25,036 --> 00:06:26,386 I'm like, "What's going on here, dude?" 144 00:06:26,429 --> 00:06:28,209 And that's when he said, "Chris is dead." 145 00:06:28,257 --> 00:06:31,827 I said, "What? Chris who?" And he says, "Chris Benoit." 146 00:06:31,869 --> 00:06:33,439 And I pulled over on the side of the road and 147 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,260 I just started bawling. 148 00:06:35,307 --> 00:06:36,307 And I remember my son, he said, 149 00:06:36,352 --> 00:06:38,052 "Daddy, you cry funny." 150 00:06:38,093 --> 00:06:40,443 I was just crying, just bawling. 151 00:06:40,487 --> 00:06:43,617 At this time, no one knew what happened. 152 00:06:43,664 --> 00:06:47,804 So, WWE is just thinking that Chris Benoit has passed away, 153 00:06:47,842 --> 00:06:49,672 along with Nancy and Daniel. 154 00:06:49,713 --> 00:06:51,803 You're not trying to put together that, 155 00:06:51,846 --> 00:06:55,066 okay, did someone break in? Did carbon monoxide happen? 156 00:06:55,110 --> 00:06:56,590 What's going on? 157 00:06:56,633 --> 00:07:00,163 You just know that these two of your friends are gone. 158 00:07:00,202 --> 00:07:01,942 And no one has answers. 159 00:07:01,986 --> 00:07:05,286 Vince McMahon, the Chairman of the Board, 160 00:07:05,337 --> 00:07:07,727 couldn't go on the air and not do anything so, 161 00:07:07,775 --> 00:07:09,645 we go on the air and did what we thought was right. 162 00:07:09,690 --> 00:07:11,870 Tonight, this arena here in Corpus Christi, Texas 163 00:07:11,909 --> 00:07:17,349 was to have been filled to capacity... 164 00:07:17,393 --> 00:07:20,273 with enthusiastic WWE fans. 165 00:07:20,309 --> 00:07:22,269 We tried to honor the guy. We tried to honor his family... 166 00:07:22,311 --> 00:07:23,751 Tried to honor his fans... 167 00:07:23,791 --> 00:07:27,401 But, we didn't have a full, the full story. 168 00:07:27,447 --> 00:07:29,487 Shame on us for that, I guess. 169 00:07:29,536 --> 00:07:34,236 So, tonight will be a three-hour tribute... 170 00:07:34,279 --> 00:07:37,409 to one of the greatest... 171 00:07:37,457 --> 00:07:40,287 WWE superstars of all time. 172 00:07:40,329 --> 00:07:42,509 We just know that Chris Benoit is no longer with us 173 00:07:42,549 --> 00:07:44,639 and neither is his family. 174 00:07:44,681 --> 00:07:47,081 Of course, I'm gonna pay tribute to my friend. 175 00:07:47,118 --> 00:07:49,728 And I would trust you, with, with me, 176 00:07:49,773 --> 00:07:52,693 with my life, with my kids' lives... 177 00:07:52,733 --> 00:07:54,433 'cause I know, I know you, Chris. 178 00:07:54,474 --> 00:07:55,954 I know your heart. 179 00:07:55,997 --> 00:07:58,427 Yeah, they called me and asked me if I wanted to be on it, 180 00:07:58,478 --> 00:07:59,998 and I was like, "Absolutely not." 181 00:08:00,044 --> 00:08:01,264 I remember just sitting there, like, 182 00:08:01,306 --> 00:08:03,396 just watching, like, dead... 183 00:08:03,439 --> 00:08:05,489 with a bottle of vodka, just drinking, like, 184 00:08:05,528 --> 00:08:08,398 you know, 'cause Eddie's was bad, but this was worse. 185 00:08:08,444 --> 00:08:10,794 Chris Benoit was not only one of the greatest wrestlers 186 00:08:10,838 --> 00:08:12,448 I ever saw, but he was one of the best friends 187 00:08:12,492 --> 00:08:14,322 I ever had in this business. 188 00:08:14,363 --> 00:08:16,193 We did not know all the information. 189 00:08:16,234 --> 00:08:17,854 That's our fault. 190 00:08:17,888 --> 00:08:19,758 We were trying to serve the audience. 191 00:08:19,803 --> 00:08:21,283 It was a major story. 192 00:08:21,326 --> 00:08:23,106 It was hitting all the news sources, 193 00:08:23,154 --> 00:08:25,164 and we had a TV show. 194 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,550 We wanted to update people on what the hell was going on, 195 00:08:27,594 --> 00:08:29,814 but we didn't have all the information. 196 00:08:29,857 --> 00:08:31,987 But we didn't know we didn't have all the information. 197 00:08:32,033 --> 00:08:33,083 We were told from the authorities, 198 00:08:33,121 --> 00:08:34,251 "Here's what happened." 199 00:08:34,296 --> 00:08:36,076 "Oh, guess what, we were wrong. 200 00:08:36,124 --> 00:08:39,004 This is not what happened." 201 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,520 Chris was the type of guy you'd want to go to war with. 202 00:08:42,565 --> 00:08:43,955 It was hard because at that time, 203 00:08:44,001 --> 00:08:47,001 some guys were, you know, in their speeches, 204 00:08:47,048 --> 00:08:49,568 you know, praising Chris. 205 00:08:49,616 --> 00:08:52,396 Because Chris Benoit was my hero. 206 00:08:52,444 --> 00:08:53,884 I love you, Chris. 207 00:08:53,924 --> 00:08:55,454 [Chris] It's interesting to me because when I watched the 208 00:08:55,491 --> 00:08:58,191 Raw Tribute, and everybody was talking about Benoit and 209 00:08:58,233 --> 00:08:59,843 how great of a performer he was and, 210 00:08:59,887 --> 00:09:01,797 and how amazing he was, but... 211 00:09:01,845 --> 00:09:07,235 I thought Regal's words on that night were very revealing. 212 00:09:07,285 --> 00:09:10,635 Now, all I'm willing to say... 213 00:09:10,680 --> 00:09:15,730 is that Chris Benoit was undoubtedly the 214 00:09:15,772 --> 00:09:18,992 hardest working man in professional wrestling. 215 00:09:19,036 --> 00:09:20,556 And, when you talked to him afterwards, 216 00:09:20,603 --> 00:09:23,003 you find out he lived in the same city as Chris, 217 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,480 and knew a lot about whatever fights Nancy and him had, 218 00:09:26,522 --> 00:09:28,482 or whatever Chris was going through at the time. 219 00:09:28,524 --> 00:09:30,274 And, I'm not sure if a lot of people would have noticed it, 220 00:09:30,308 --> 00:09:32,618 but knowing what I knew about him, 221 00:09:32,659 --> 00:09:34,619 I started thinking, "Wow, this is not good." 222 00:09:34,661 --> 00:09:37,621 ♪ 223 00:09:37,664 --> 00:09:41,154 My sister had told me to spoil myself and go to the mall, 224 00:09:41,189 --> 00:09:44,629 and get some makeup, and have some wine with lunch, 225 00:09:44,671 --> 00:09:46,761 and go watch a movie. 226 00:09:46,803 --> 00:09:49,113 And I came out of the theater and I turned my phone on, 227 00:09:49,153 --> 00:09:53,853 and I had like 22 missed calls from my parents. 228 00:09:53,897 --> 00:09:56,287 And, my parents made sure, they wouldn't tell me anything. 229 00:09:56,334 --> 00:09:58,384 They wanted me to be parked in my driveway and 230 00:09:58,423 --> 00:10:00,733 inside my house before they told me, 231 00:10:00,774 --> 00:10:03,864 that's how I found out. 232 00:10:03,907 --> 00:10:05,777 And then, when it finally sunk in, 233 00:10:05,822 --> 00:10:09,432 I just absolutely lost control of myself. 234 00:10:09,478 --> 00:10:12,088 It was very difficult. Very difficult. 235 00:10:12,133 --> 00:10:14,273 I had to go to the hospital and be sedated. 236 00:10:14,309 --> 00:10:17,399 ♪ 237 00:10:17,442 --> 00:10:21,582 I was in Edmonton, and then this number kept calling... 238 00:10:21,621 --> 00:10:23,711 my mum's cellphone - 239 00:10:23,753 --> 00:10:27,243 unknown number, unknown number. 240 00:10:27,278 --> 00:10:28,888 And then, she finally answered it and 241 00:10:28,932 --> 00:10:31,412 it was the police, RCMP. 242 00:10:31,456 --> 00:10:33,066 [sighs] 243 00:10:33,110 --> 00:10:37,590 So, we left, rolled down to the station... 244 00:10:37,637 --> 00:10:39,677 [sighs] 245 00:10:39,726 --> 00:10:42,206 She found out first. 246 00:10:42,250 --> 00:10:46,470 I see her crying there. 247 00:10:46,515 --> 00:10:51,775 She couldn't spit it out, so... 248 00:10:51,825 --> 00:10:56,345 [sighs] 249 00:10:56,394 --> 00:11:00,534 ♪ 250 00:11:00,572 --> 00:11:04,322 The cop... told me... 251 00:11:04,359 --> 00:11:08,539 that they all passed away over the weekend. 252 00:11:08,580 --> 00:11:12,670 I punched him in the chest. 253 00:11:12,715 --> 00:11:14,975 And then, me and the cop went for a walk. 254 00:11:15,022 --> 00:11:16,892 We talked. 255 00:11:16,937 --> 00:11:20,027 And that, you know... 256 00:11:20,070 --> 00:11:24,250 "Your dad loved you. 257 00:11:24,292 --> 00:11:29,172 They all loved you," and... 258 00:11:29,210 --> 00:11:31,600 I thought it was a joke. I really did. 259 00:11:31,647 --> 00:11:33,687 ♪ 260 00:11:33,736 --> 00:11:35,956 [Dean] It wasn't until after the show, 261 00:11:35,999 --> 00:11:39,049 and after the fact, that all the details started coming in. 262 00:11:39,089 --> 00:11:41,139 We have more for you now on a developing story 263 00:11:41,178 --> 00:11:44,228 in Fayette County: the deaths of a pro wrestler and his family. 264 00:11:44,268 --> 00:11:46,788 Fayetteville authorities say the bodies of Chris Benoit 265 00:11:46,836 --> 00:11:49,526 and his family were found this afternoon in their home. 266 00:11:49,578 --> 00:11:50,748 Right now, it's being investigated as a 267 00:11:50,797 --> 00:11:53,797 murder-suicide, however, it... 268 00:11:53,843 --> 00:11:56,193 until we get the crime lab reports, 269 00:11:56,237 --> 00:11:58,977 it's undetermined exactly what happened. 270 00:11:59,022 --> 00:12:00,592 That's when all of this, you know, 271 00:12:00,632 --> 00:12:03,772 all of these details started coming out about, 272 00:12:03,810 --> 00:12:05,160 it's not just him that's dead. 273 00:12:05,202 --> 00:12:07,292 It's Nancy and then Daniel's dead as well. 274 00:12:07,335 --> 00:12:09,595 And then, that's when it just started getting out of control. 275 00:12:09,641 --> 00:12:11,691 The father killed his wife and son, 276 00:12:11,731 --> 00:12:13,471 and then committed suicide. 277 00:12:13,515 --> 00:12:15,125 That's what's happened here. 278 00:12:15,169 --> 00:12:16,339 You didn't want to believe it. 279 00:12:16,387 --> 00:12:19,257 Can't believe it. Can't be true. 280 00:12:19,303 --> 00:12:20,833 But it was. 281 00:12:20,870 --> 00:12:28,230 ♪ 282 00:12:28,269 --> 00:12:31,099 The evidence indicates that it was a particularly 283 00:12:31,141 --> 00:12:34,281 brutal and vicious murder. 284 00:12:34,318 --> 00:12:38,058 It was something that showed some sign of real rage. 285 00:12:38,105 --> 00:12:39,445 I'm Matthew Randazzo V, 286 00:12:39,497 --> 00:12:40,797 and I'm the author of Ring of Hell, 287 00:12:40,847 --> 00:12:42,277 the story of Chris Benoit and the fall of the 288 00:12:42,326 --> 00:12:44,196 pro wrestling industry. 289 00:12:44,241 --> 00:12:46,771 The weekend of the murders, on Friday, 290 00:12:46,809 --> 00:12:49,459 Chris Benoit had a barbecue out by the pool with Daniel. 291 00:12:49,507 --> 00:12:50,897 And then, that Friday evening, 292 00:12:50,944 --> 00:12:52,734 it appears that there was some sort of altercation 293 00:12:52,772 --> 00:12:54,472 between Chris and Nancy... 294 00:12:54,512 --> 00:12:57,432 That Chris restrained Nancy with duct tape, 295 00:12:57,472 --> 00:13:00,952 and then utilized a telephone cord to strangle her... 296 00:13:00,997 --> 00:13:03,477 And then placed a bible next to her body. 297 00:13:03,521 --> 00:13:05,181 ♪ 298 00:13:05,219 --> 00:13:07,699 There were a number of beer cans and wine bottles around 299 00:13:07,743 --> 00:13:10,143 that indicate Chris may have been drinking. 300 00:13:10,180 --> 00:13:13,530 Next morning, on Saturday, Chris - we assume - 301 00:13:13,575 --> 00:13:15,095 gave his son, Daniel, Xanax, 302 00:13:15,142 --> 00:13:17,972 and then murdered him in his room, 303 00:13:18,014 --> 00:13:20,234 being suffocated by his father. 304 00:13:20,277 --> 00:13:23,237 A bible was then placed next to Daniel as well. 305 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,810 After that, Chris made a phone call and 306 00:13:25,848 --> 00:13:27,848 let friends know that Daniel and Nancy 307 00:13:27,894 --> 00:13:30,554 were both suffering from a bad stomach virus, 308 00:13:30,592 --> 00:13:33,812 and that he had to take them to the hospital. 309 00:13:33,856 --> 00:13:36,636 That night, Chris went to bed with the bodies 310 00:13:36,685 --> 00:13:39,685 of his wife and child in the house. 311 00:13:39,731 --> 00:13:42,391 On Sunday, Benoit makes a couple searches 312 00:13:42,430 --> 00:13:45,610 on the internet that are chilling in retrospect. 313 00:13:45,650 --> 00:13:48,960 One, for a story in the bible about the prophet Elijah and 314 00:13:49,002 --> 00:13:51,922 the resurrection of a dead boy in the old testament. 315 00:13:51,961 --> 00:13:53,441 And then, a search about the quickest and 316 00:13:53,484 --> 00:13:57,494 most painless way of breaking one's own neck. 317 00:13:57,532 --> 00:13:59,662 Chris then went down to his home gym with 318 00:13:59,708 --> 00:14:02,148 a half-drunken bottle of wine. 319 00:14:02,189 --> 00:14:03,889 He went to his lat pull down machine. 320 00:14:03,930 --> 00:14:05,150 He took the bar off. 321 00:14:05,192 --> 00:14:06,892 He wrapped a towel around his neck, 322 00:14:06,933 --> 00:14:10,023 and he took the metal cord from the lat pull down machine 323 00:14:10,066 --> 00:14:12,716 and put it around his neck. 324 00:14:12,764 --> 00:14:16,334 He adjusted the weights to 240 pounds. 325 00:14:16,377 --> 00:14:18,677 And then he released it. 326 00:14:18,727 --> 00:14:21,077 So, it's a very bizarre scenario. 327 00:14:21,121 --> 00:14:22,641 It's a very bizarre weekend. 328 00:14:22,687 --> 00:14:24,987 And it doesn't leave a lot of answers. 329 00:14:25,038 --> 00:14:29,428 He was just a guy, you know, like, my friend. 330 00:14:29,477 --> 00:14:32,827 Nobody expects their friend to kill their family. 331 00:14:32,872 --> 00:14:34,442 Like, what? 332 00:14:34,482 --> 00:14:37,402 When I found what had really happened, 333 00:14:37,441 --> 00:14:40,921 the shock is just-- you can't even believe it. 334 00:14:40,967 --> 00:14:43,617 He had put his knee in her back and, 335 00:14:43,665 --> 00:14:45,575 essentially, broke her back. 336 00:14:45,623 --> 00:14:48,803 I... couldn't fathom how cruel and 337 00:14:48,844 --> 00:14:50,594 how much pain she must have gone through, 338 00:14:50,628 --> 00:14:53,408 and how horrific that must have been for her. 339 00:14:53,457 --> 00:14:56,327 It was just unfathomable. 340 00:14:56,373 --> 00:14:58,813 If Chris did give Daniel that, you know, 341 00:14:58,854 --> 00:15:01,994 medication or prescription pills and suffocate him, 342 00:15:02,031 --> 00:15:04,691 you know, like... shame on him. 343 00:15:04,729 --> 00:15:07,039 Daniel was innocent in all this. 344 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,340 [Julie] We were hearing other things come out about the 345 00:15:09,386 --> 00:15:14,476 circumstances of him putting the bibles by their sides and, 346 00:15:14,522 --> 00:15:17,262 having a knife that he had planted 347 00:15:17,307 --> 00:15:20,747 underneath Daniel's bed or something like that. 348 00:15:20,789 --> 00:15:23,139 [Dean] Still couldn't wrap my head around it. 349 00:15:23,183 --> 00:15:25,493 It just sounded so... 350 00:15:25,533 --> 00:15:29,283 like some bad horror movie. 351 00:15:29,319 --> 00:15:35,889 And now, I'm a part of humanizing a murderer? 352 00:15:35,935 --> 00:15:37,405 Strange. 353 00:15:37,458 --> 00:15:39,548 [Vickie] I mean, to think that Nancy was 354 00:15:39,590 --> 00:15:43,250 dead for 2 days before Chris took his life... 355 00:15:43,290 --> 00:15:47,990 How is that even logical for this man who loved her so much? 356 00:15:48,034 --> 00:15:49,564 [laughs] 357 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,650 Later, it turned out that there was a bible in the house, 358 00:15:52,690 --> 00:15:55,870 similar to the ones left by Nancy and Daniel's body, 359 00:15:55,911 --> 00:15:59,651 that Chris had left something akin to a suicide note. 360 00:15:59,697 --> 00:16:01,127 Something along the lines of, 361 00:16:01,177 --> 00:16:03,477 "I'm preparing to leave this earth." 362 00:16:03,527 --> 00:16:05,967 So, Chris did leave a suicide note. 363 00:16:06,008 --> 00:16:07,708 He did know what he was doing. 364 00:16:07,749 --> 00:16:09,319 He was at least enough in his right mind to understand 365 00:16:09,359 --> 00:16:11,879 exactly what was happening, and was still considering 366 00:16:11,927 --> 00:16:13,617 whether he would go make a flight to go wrestle 367 00:16:13,668 --> 00:16:15,758 that night on international television. 368 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,540 Good evening, ladies and gentlemen... 369 00:16:17,585 --> 00:16:20,015 We came up on air with Vince talking, 370 00:16:20,066 --> 00:16:22,586 and kind of letting everybody know what happened. 371 00:16:22,633 --> 00:16:23,943 Last night on Monday Night Raw, 372 00:16:23,983 --> 00:16:26,993 the WWE presented a special tribute show, 373 00:16:27,029 --> 00:16:29,949 recognizing the career of Chris Benoit. 374 00:16:29,989 --> 00:16:32,689 However, now some 26 hours later, 375 00:16:32,730 --> 00:16:37,040 the facts of this horrific tragedy are now apparent. 376 00:16:37,083 --> 00:16:39,093 Therefore, other than my comments there will be 377 00:16:39,128 --> 00:16:42,128 no mention of Mr. Benoit's name tonight. 378 00:16:42,175 --> 00:16:45,085 It was understood that we were not to speak of Chris, 379 00:16:45,134 --> 00:16:49,274 speak of Benoit, speak of anyone of that incident. 380 00:16:49,312 --> 00:16:52,532 And, by that next week, Chris' name was erased 381 00:16:52,576 --> 00:16:55,836 from everything that was involved with WWE. 382 00:16:55,884 --> 00:16:57,714 I mean, when we did interviews, 383 00:16:57,755 --> 00:17:00,365 we were not to mention Chris Benoit. 384 00:17:00,410 --> 00:17:02,850 So, that s something that was really hard for us to do, 385 00:17:02,891 --> 00:17:05,071 but because we all wanted our jobs, 386 00:17:05,111 --> 00:17:07,201 it was understood. 387 00:17:07,243 --> 00:17:09,253 [Dean] I know WWE has kind of, like, 388 00:17:09,289 --> 00:17:12,029 erased his history of being in the business and I can 389 00:17:12,074 --> 00:17:14,954 understand and totally agree with what they did. 390 00:17:14,990 --> 00:17:18,210 We're not gonna praise a guy who murdered his wife or son. 391 00:17:18,254 --> 00:17:20,954 Don't give him any accolades for that. 392 00:17:20,996 --> 00:17:24,776 I went to the funeral of Nancy and Daniel. 393 00:17:24,826 --> 00:17:27,656 You can't even believe how sad it was. 394 00:17:27,698 --> 00:17:30,438 I was the WWE representative there, just me. 395 00:17:30,484 --> 00:17:31,624 It was the shits. 396 00:17:31,659 --> 00:17:32,919 You go to a funeral, and people crying, 397 00:17:32,964 --> 00:17:34,794 and a kid being buried and a woman being buried 398 00:17:34,836 --> 00:17:38,666 for no reason. No reason to die. 399 00:17:38,709 --> 00:17:41,019 [Sandra] The WWE sent JR, 400 00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:44,450 and I lost my cool with him and told him to his face that 401 00:17:44,498 --> 00:17:47,628 he wasn't welcome at the wake afterward. 402 00:17:47,675 --> 00:17:52,895 It was all a work, just fake garbage, nonsense. 403 00:17:52,941 --> 00:17:55,071 I can see a work coming a mile away, 404 00:17:55,117 --> 00:17:59,167 and that's what I saw, and I knew that that was the truth. 405 00:17:59,208 --> 00:18:01,518 I felt like I was the most unwanted person in 406 00:18:01,558 --> 00:18:04,388 the building because I was a WWE guy, 407 00:18:04,431 --> 00:18:07,131 and I probably loved him as much as anybody there. 408 00:18:07,173 --> 00:18:09,873 [Vickie] Everybody was just a mess. 409 00:18:09,914 --> 00:18:14,144 It's shitty, and it's sad, and it's unfair because 410 00:18:14,180 --> 00:18:16,660 there's two people that could still be with us today. 411 00:18:16,704 --> 00:18:18,884 And, if Chris wanted to take his life then, 412 00:18:18,923 --> 00:18:23,413 then so be it. But, to take all of them... 413 00:18:23,450 --> 00:18:25,150 I didn't go to Chris' funeral. 414 00:18:25,191 --> 00:18:27,191 I was angry at that point. 415 00:18:27,236 --> 00:18:30,406 I was pretty angry at Chris, you know, for what he did. 416 00:18:30,457 --> 00:18:32,237 His funeral was very private. 417 00:18:32,285 --> 00:18:34,105 We didn't tell anyone about it. 418 00:18:34,156 --> 00:18:36,376 That's when it all hit me, right there, all at once. 419 00:18:36,419 --> 00:18:38,899 I was crying my eyes out. 420 00:18:38,943 --> 00:18:41,083 [off-screen] Who in the wrestling business provided care 421 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:44,560 for you and your family in the aftermath of this? 422 00:18:44,601 --> 00:18:46,601 Is that a serious question? 423 00:18:46,647 --> 00:18:49,077 Not a single person... No one. 424 00:18:49,128 --> 00:18:50,828 [off-screen] Did anyone from the WWE ever 425 00:18:50,868 --> 00:18:52,308 reach out to you and your family? 426 00:18:52,348 --> 00:18:54,788 Chris Jericho and Chavo Guerrero. 427 00:18:54,829 --> 00:18:58,349 That's it. Nobody else, you know. 428 00:18:58,398 --> 00:18:59,918 Screw them. 429 00:18:59,964 --> 00:19:04,144 They weren't there for me, you know... 430 00:19:04,186 --> 00:19:07,056 they backed off like I didn't even exist. 431 00:19:07,102 --> 00:19:15,762 ♪ 432 00:19:15,806 --> 00:19:18,896 It was so hard after the funeral 'cause the media 433 00:19:18,940 --> 00:19:23,210 was just nonstop, 24/7. 434 00:19:23,249 --> 00:19:25,209 Tonight, we are talking about the strange and 435 00:19:25,251 --> 00:19:27,601 very sad case of Chris Benoit. 436 00:19:27,644 --> 00:19:29,044 I didn't even watch the news anymore. 437 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,040 I didn't even watch TV for months. 438 00:19:31,082 --> 00:19:33,222 I couldn't even watch wrestling anymore. 439 00:19:33,259 --> 00:19:35,959 We're also told by the police here that there were 440 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,830 instruments of death found, not instruments of murder. 441 00:19:39,874 --> 00:19:41,624 There's gonna be an autopsy report, 442 00:19:41,658 --> 00:19:43,528 but there's an awful lot of confusion about 443 00:19:43,573 --> 00:19:44,973 how this happened. 444 00:19:45,009 --> 00:19:49,229 It really, really was the darkest time in my life. 445 00:19:49,275 --> 00:19:51,835 Benoit had an intense onstage persona. 446 00:19:51,886 --> 00:19:53,756 He was nicknamed the Rabid Wolverine, 447 00:19:53,801 --> 00:19:55,281 the Canadian Crippler. 448 00:19:55,324 --> 00:19:58,074 The couple actually met when her former husband drew up 449 00:19:58,109 --> 00:20:00,419 a script that had put the two of them in a relationship. 450 00:20:00,460 --> 00:20:02,640 It made everything extremely difficult. 451 00:20:02,679 --> 00:20:06,989 It made everything under a magnifying glass 'cause CNN, 452 00:20:07,031 --> 00:20:11,081 and Fox, and all the news channels were at the gates, 453 00:20:11,122 --> 00:20:13,042 you know, a double murder-suicide with a 454 00:20:13,081 --> 00:20:14,691 7-year-old kid is news. 455 00:20:14,735 --> 00:20:16,995 But, I think that there's a point where you really just 456 00:20:17,041 --> 00:20:19,001 need to let the family grieve. 457 00:20:19,043 --> 00:20:23,133 All I really wanted to do was to be with my niece and nephew. 458 00:20:23,178 --> 00:20:26,398 The mainstream media's reaction was typical because, 459 00:20:26,442 --> 00:20:28,102 A, they love a tragedy. 460 00:20:28,139 --> 00:20:29,839 And, it gives them another reason to 461 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,270 take a shot at wrestling. It was a field day for them. 462 00:20:32,318 --> 00:20:36,098 Professional wrestlers are 20 times more likely to die 463 00:20:36,147 --> 00:20:40,237 before age 45 than professional football players. 464 00:20:40,282 --> 00:20:42,282 I think a lot of the mainstream media looks down at wrestling 465 00:20:42,328 --> 00:20:43,678 as it is, and then, suddenly, it was 466 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,330 public enemy number one. 467 00:20:45,374 --> 00:20:48,164 Chris Benoit's diary is revealing new information 468 00:20:48,203 --> 00:20:49,773 about his state of mind. 469 00:20:49,813 --> 00:20:52,473 The wrestler wrote a series of letters to his best friend. 470 00:20:52,512 --> 00:20:55,732 At one point, Benoit wrote, "I'll be with you soon." 471 00:20:55,776 --> 00:21:00,606 Mike Benoit believes it's the diary of his son going mad. 472 00:21:00,650 --> 00:21:02,440 We just didn't understand this was going on 473 00:21:02,478 --> 00:21:04,918 at that time in Chris' life. 474 00:21:06,743 --> 00:21:09,363 I got a call from Chris' dad, Mike Benoit, 475 00:21:09,398 --> 00:21:11,568 'cause he knew my relationship with Chris. 476 00:21:11,618 --> 00:21:13,708 And the first thing he asked me was, "Why?" 477 00:21:13,750 --> 00:21:15,540 Which, from a father's standpoint, 478 00:21:15,578 --> 00:21:17,928 I can understand how upset he was. 479 00:21:17,972 --> 00:21:19,372 Unfortunately, and I felt bad, 480 00:21:19,408 --> 00:21:21,188 I didn't have any answers for him. 481 00:21:21,236 --> 00:21:22,756 People need to understand that, 482 00:21:22,803 --> 00:21:24,633 that was not him. 483 00:21:24,674 --> 00:21:27,244 Not the person we knew, the person I loved 484 00:21:27,286 --> 00:21:29,156 with all my heart, my hero. 485 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,680 The term that's being thrown around everywhere is roid rage. 486 00:21:31,725 --> 00:21:34,505 Some say steroid abuse is rampant at the organization 487 00:21:34,554 --> 00:21:37,174 and everyone just turns a blind eye to this. 488 00:21:37,208 --> 00:21:39,338 The media's initial response to the Benoit tragedy was 489 00:21:39,385 --> 00:21:41,205 that this was a roid rage incident. 490 00:21:41,256 --> 00:21:44,996 Where do steroids stand in the bizarre Benoit deaths? 491 00:21:45,042 --> 00:21:47,312 Pro wrestling, when Chris Benoit entered it in the 1980s, 492 00:21:47,349 --> 00:21:49,479 was extremely discriminatory against people 493 00:21:49,525 --> 00:21:51,825 who were not 6-foot-plus tall, 494 00:21:51,875 --> 00:21:55,005 who were not 250 pounds or more, and very, very muscular. 495 00:21:55,052 --> 00:21:56,922 My understanding is that Chris Benoit was using steroids 496 00:21:56,967 --> 00:21:59,577 from when he was in high school. 497 00:21:59,622 --> 00:22:01,102 In the months before the murders, 498 00:22:01,145 --> 00:22:04,105 Chris received a number of text messages from Nancy 499 00:22:04,148 --> 00:22:06,588 in which she made it very clear she was sick and tired 500 00:22:06,629 --> 00:22:08,369 of his steroid abuse. 501 00:22:08,414 --> 00:22:10,984 Nancy definitely directly accused him of abusing steroids 502 00:22:11,025 --> 00:22:13,375 to the point that it led him to be an angry, 503 00:22:13,419 --> 00:22:15,679 and violent, and unhappy husband. 504 00:22:15,725 --> 00:22:19,685 And, she said that the WWE's drug enforcement policy and 505 00:22:19,729 --> 00:22:21,599 testing regime was obviously nonsense. 506 00:22:21,644 --> 00:22:23,124 Something called the Wellness Program that 507 00:22:23,167 --> 00:22:26,557 alleged that it was testing every WWE wrestler to 508 00:22:26,606 --> 00:22:29,126 make sure they weren't using recreational drugs, 509 00:22:29,173 --> 00:22:31,223 performance enhancing drugs - or steroids. 510 00:22:31,262 --> 00:22:32,922 I think at that time, you know, 511 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,350 instituting a wellness program like that, 512 00:22:35,397 --> 00:22:38,357 I think everybody was happy that finally some of these guys 513 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:39,790 that needed the help were gonna get help. 514 00:22:39,836 --> 00:22:41,876 I thought it was a great idea. Anything to... 515 00:22:41,925 --> 00:22:47,095 help talent, save guys from, from themselves. 516 00:22:47,148 --> 00:22:48,628 [Chris] After Eddie died, 517 00:22:48,671 --> 00:22:51,761 the WWE's drug testing was super strict. 518 00:22:51,805 --> 00:22:53,935 It went through the roof. Like, you couldn't even take 519 00:22:53,981 --> 00:22:57,771 a fricking Aspirin... like, a high powered Aspirin, 520 00:22:57,811 --> 00:22:59,511 unless you had, like, a prescription. 521 00:22:59,552 --> 00:23:00,812 And, I'm not kidding. 522 00:23:00,857 --> 00:23:03,077 The drug testing is so strict that this, 523 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:05,560 "rampant steroid use," dude, you can't. 524 00:23:05,601 --> 00:23:11,001 You can't go snort cocaine, or smoke weed, or... anything. 525 00:23:11,041 --> 00:23:14,221 In practice, it was seen that this initial version of 526 00:23:14,262 --> 00:23:17,132 the Wellness Program had large loop holes in it, 527 00:23:17,178 --> 00:23:19,438 and large blind spots that allowed wrestlers to 528 00:23:19,485 --> 00:23:23,225 continue to use drugs at a really large scale 529 00:23:23,271 --> 00:23:25,531 without tripping the tests. 530 00:23:25,578 --> 00:23:29,018 Speculation is running wild: Did steroids play a role or 531 00:23:29,059 --> 00:23:30,929 is there another explanation? 532 00:23:30,974 --> 00:23:32,244 We have an exclusive interview with 533 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,410 WWE Chairman Vince McMahon. 534 00:23:34,456 --> 00:23:36,546 WWE did everything they could to combat any coverage 535 00:23:36,589 --> 00:23:39,199 in the news media that indicated that drug abuse or 536 00:23:39,243 --> 00:23:41,423 steroid abuse was the cause of the homicides. 537 00:23:41,463 --> 00:23:43,473 And, obviously, this is not an act of rage. 538 00:23:43,509 --> 00:23:45,209 It's an act of deliberation when you do something 539 00:23:45,249 --> 00:23:46,509 like this over 3 days. 540 00:23:46,555 --> 00:23:48,775 It's not an act of rage, be it steroid rage, 541 00:23:48,818 --> 00:23:50,038 or roid rage, whatever it's called, 542 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,430 or any other rage. 543 00:23:51,473 --> 00:23:55,173 WWE strongly suggests that it is entirely wrong, 544 00:23:55,216 --> 00:23:58,306 for speculators to suggest that steroids had anything 545 00:23:58,349 --> 00:23:59,999 to do with these senseless acts. 546 00:24:00,047 --> 00:24:03,527 It's all speculation until the toxicology reports come back. 547 00:24:03,572 --> 00:24:06,232 In his autopsy, Chris Benoit was shown to have 548 00:24:06,270 --> 00:24:08,530 enormous amounts of testosterone in his body, 549 00:24:08,577 --> 00:24:10,967 and testosterone is still a steroid that's banned 550 00:24:11,014 --> 00:24:12,494 in all major sports. 551 00:24:12,538 --> 00:24:13,968 So, some people might say he had 10 times 552 00:24:14,017 --> 00:24:15,407 the normal amount of testosterone. 553 00:24:15,454 --> 00:24:17,154 Some folks have said he had 57 times the amount of 554 00:24:17,194 --> 00:24:19,154 testosterone in his body as a normal human. 555 00:24:19,196 --> 00:24:21,366 [off-screen] And, did Benoit pass the Wellness Program 556 00:24:21,416 --> 00:24:23,156 check leading up to the murders? 557 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,940 Yes, preposterously, Chris Benoit passed 558 00:24:24,985 --> 00:24:27,245 the wellness checks leading up to the murder, 559 00:24:27,291 --> 00:24:28,951 despite the irrefutable fact that he was taking 560 00:24:28,989 --> 00:24:30,899 enormous amounts of steroids. 561 00:24:30,947 --> 00:24:39,217 ♪ 562 00:24:39,260 --> 00:24:41,180 Well, after it initially happened, 563 00:24:41,218 --> 00:24:43,128 I actually had nightmares. 564 00:24:43,177 --> 00:24:44,527 It was very traumatic because, 565 00:24:44,570 --> 00:24:48,920 as a female, I tend to really get angry with him, 566 00:24:48,965 --> 00:24:51,005 the one person she thought was there to protect her 567 00:24:51,054 --> 00:24:53,884 is the one that really took her life. 568 00:24:53,927 --> 00:24:56,187 [Chris] There was a lot of stuff going on behind closed doors 569 00:24:56,233 --> 00:24:57,633 that no one knew about. 570 00:24:57,670 --> 00:24:59,670 I think there was a lot of volatile fights. 571 00:24:59,715 --> 00:25:01,275 One thing I'd always heard about Nancy and 572 00:25:01,325 --> 00:25:03,495 the fact that she didn't take shit. 573 00:25:03,545 --> 00:25:08,285 So, I just know there was a lot of volatility there. 574 00:25:08,332 --> 00:25:10,942 That s the word I think was used, volatile. 575 00:25:10,987 --> 00:25:13,207 There was a few times that Nancy would call me and 576 00:25:13,250 --> 00:25:15,250 she would say that her and Chris were fighting. 577 00:25:15,296 --> 00:25:17,386 There was an incident when they were in Tampa, 578 00:25:17,428 --> 00:25:19,908 and Chris was upset when they were driving 579 00:25:19,953 --> 00:25:21,963 on the way to our house, and Chris went and 580 00:25:21,998 --> 00:25:24,518 busted the windshield of their car. 581 00:25:24,566 --> 00:25:26,566 [off-screen] Did you ever witness any abuse 582 00:25:26,612 --> 00:25:29,572 that was going on in that relationship? 583 00:25:29,615 --> 00:25:31,135 My sister called me to the house, 584 00:25:31,181 --> 00:25:34,621 and she called Mike Durham, known as Johnny Grunge, 585 00:25:34,663 --> 00:25:37,973 who was also a professional wrestler that lived in the area. 586 00:25:38,014 --> 00:25:39,494 [Mike] Hey, cool. 587 00:25:39,538 --> 00:25:41,368 [Sandra] And, Mike said, "I'll go. I'll go wrangle Chris. 588 00:25:41,409 --> 00:25:43,629 I'll go wrangle Chris. Don't do anything rash." 589 00:25:43,672 --> 00:25:50,202 But, it was already kind of done: he hurt her. 590 00:25:50,244 --> 00:25:52,254 I don't know whether it was intentional or accidental, 591 00:25:52,289 --> 00:25:54,249 but he hurt her. 592 00:25:54,291 --> 00:25:56,901 Out of respect for the kids that he still has here, 593 00:25:56,946 --> 00:25:59,376 I won't go further into that. 594 00:25:59,427 --> 00:26:00,727 ♪ 595 00:26:00,776 --> 00:26:03,036 She got a restraining order against him and 596 00:26:03,083 --> 00:26:05,433 I went down there and stayed at the house. 597 00:26:05,476 --> 00:26:08,386 Mike had him at a hotel there in, in the area. 598 00:26:08,436 --> 00:26:11,566 Chris contacted me directly because Nancy wasn't 599 00:26:11,613 --> 00:26:13,833 answering any of his calls and, 600 00:26:13,876 --> 00:26:18,706 asked me to talk to my sister on his behalf. 601 00:26:18,751 --> 00:26:21,361 And please, please, please let him come to the house 602 00:26:21,405 --> 00:26:23,055 and talk to her personally. 603 00:26:23,103 --> 00:26:25,413 She called him and he came over the next day, 604 00:26:25,453 --> 00:26:27,763 and they were back together a couple of days later. 605 00:26:27,803 --> 00:26:29,593 [sighs] 606 00:26:29,631 --> 00:26:31,721 Do I look back on that moment and say, 607 00:26:31,764 --> 00:26:34,334 you probably shouldn't have gotten involved and, 608 00:26:34,375 --> 00:26:36,635 why did I take his call 'cause maybe that 609 00:26:36,682 --> 00:26:38,952 would have been the end of it? 610 00:26:38,988 --> 00:26:41,208 Almost every day I think about that. 611 00:26:41,251 --> 00:26:43,171 ♪ 612 00:26:43,210 --> 00:26:45,430 When police found steroids on the scene, 613 00:26:45,473 --> 00:26:47,563 many assumed that explained it: 614 00:26:47,606 --> 00:26:50,126 the killer had flipped out because of drug use. 615 00:26:50,173 --> 00:26:52,963 Or, might there be another explanation? 616 00:26:53,002 --> 00:26:57,352 The initial media coverage all focused on steroid use 617 00:26:57,398 --> 00:26:59,008 and I said, there s no way. 618 00:26:59,052 --> 00:27:00,582 I'm Chris Nowinski. 619 00:27:00,619 --> 00:27:04,579 I'm a former WWE superstar, and now, I am a neuroscientist 620 00:27:04,623 --> 00:27:07,843 and run the Concussion Legacy Foundation. 621 00:27:07,887 --> 00:27:10,317 My wrestling career came to an end because 622 00:27:10,367 --> 00:27:12,537 I had a series of concussions that 623 00:27:12,587 --> 00:27:15,237 I didn't quite appreciate were concussions. 624 00:27:15,285 --> 00:27:16,495 [Announcer] Oh! 625 00:27:16,547 --> 00:27:19,287 [indistinct shouting] 626 00:27:19,333 --> 00:27:21,163 [Nowinski] I never stopped performing until 627 00:27:21,204 --> 00:27:23,344 the damage was sort of too much. 628 00:27:23,380 --> 00:27:26,170 So, I decided I would start digging into 629 00:27:26,209 --> 00:27:29,339 what else was known, and it became a book. 630 00:27:29,386 --> 00:27:32,296 Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy, or CTE, 631 00:27:32,346 --> 00:27:35,216 is a progressive, degenerative brain disease 632 00:27:35,262 --> 00:27:38,092 that appears to be started by hits to the head. 633 00:27:38,134 --> 00:27:39,054 [Announcer] Oh! 634 00:27:39,092 --> 00:27:42,922 Oh, my god! Oh, man! 635 00:27:42,965 --> 00:27:45,835 Anything goes. My god. 636 00:27:45,881 --> 00:27:47,931 What I knew about CTE at that time, 637 00:27:47,970 --> 00:27:50,580 was that there were 4 cases of NFL players. 638 00:27:50,625 --> 00:27:54,275 Two had died by suicide, and one had started 639 00:27:54,324 --> 00:27:58,024 hearing voices and led the police on a chase through 640 00:27:58,067 --> 00:28:00,367 upstate New York and died in fiery crash 641 00:28:00,417 --> 00:28:02,587 going on the wrong side of the highway. 642 00:28:02,637 --> 00:28:04,807 When I heard about what happened with Chris Benoit, 643 00:28:04,857 --> 00:28:08,817 I immediately remembered a conversation I'd had with him, 644 00:28:08,861 --> 00:28:11,301 maybe 6 months prior. 645 00:28:11,341 --> 00:28:14,081 I remember that he had sat next to me in the locker room 646 00:28:14,127 --> 00:28:15,517 and, he said, 647 00:28:15,563 --> 00:28:17,133 "I heard you're writing a book about concussions." 648 00:28:17,173 --> 00:28:18,613 I was like, "Yeah." And he goes, 649 00:28:18,653 --> 00:28:20,183 "I'm interested in what you re learning." 650 00:28:20,220 --> 00:28:22,440 He's like, "How many concussions have you had, 651 00:28:22,483 --> 00:28:24,313 you know, before you had to retire?" 652 00:28:24,354 --> 00:28:25,924 And I said, "Well, I can remember at least 6, 653 00:28:25,965 --> 00:28:27,875 but I probably had more." 654 00:28:27,923 --> 00:28:29,663 And I said, "How many have you had?" 655 00:28:29,708 --> 00:28:33,148 And he said, "I've had more than I can count." 656 00:28:33,189 --> 00:28:35,409 And then he said, "I'm gonna give you my phone number and 657 00:28:35,452 --> 00:28:37,152 I want you to call me next week." 658 00:28:37,193 --> 00:28:39,283 The next week, I called him. 659 00:28:39,326 --> 00:28:41,146 It sounded like he was in the middle of an argument. 660 00:28:41,197 --> 00:28:42,757 He was clearly agitated. 661 00:28:42,808 --> 00:28:44,108 It sounded like someone else was there. 662 00:28:44,157 --> 00:28:45,847 And he just said, "Hey, I can't talk right now. 663 00:28:45,898 --> 00:28:48,728 Can I call you back?" And I said, "Sure." 664 00:28:48,770 --> 00:28:51,770 I wonder if the reason he was asking me to call him 665 00:28:51,817 --> 00:28:54,727 was that he knew that something was going on, 666 00:28:54,776 --> 00:28:57,556 but he didn't quite appreciate what that was. 667 00:28:57,605 --> 00:29:00,425 And so, I decided that I really needed to know 668 00:29:00,477 --> 00:29:02,257 if Chris had CTE. 669 00:29:02,305 --> 00:29:03,915 There was so much media attention, 670 00:29:03,959 --> 00:29:07,309 I really couldn't imagine his family answering the phone, 671 00:29:07,354 --> 00:29:09,184 but I said, I'll, I'll give it a try. 672 00:29:09,225 --> 00:29:12,485 And, Chris' father answered on the second ring. 673 00:29:12,533 --> 00:29:15,543 He was in a state of mind, you can imagine, 674 00:29:15,579 --> 00:29:19,149 when you've just lost your son and learned what happened. 675 00:29:19,192 --> 00:29:22,062 I told him my theory. And, he, he immediately said, 676 00:29:22,108 --> 00:29:25,148 "Yeah, I want to see this done." 677 00:29:25,198 --> 00:29:27,898 We have the brain in early July and, 678 00:29:27,940 --> 00:29:30,460 I think within about a month we knew that it was positive 679 00:29:30,507 --> 00:29:34,637 for CTE, and it was a pretty severe case of CTE. 680 00:29:34,685 --> 00:29:36,775 So, we held a press conference in New York. 681 00:29:36,818 --> 00:29:38,778 When you look at Christopher Benoit's brain, 682 00:29:38,820 --> 00:29:40,780 it is in fact, shocking. 683 00:29:40,822 --> 00:29:44,172 Our findings showed extensive areas of 684 00:29:44,217 --> 00:29:47,257 Tau protein deposition throughout his brain. 685 00:29:47,307 --> 00:29:51,437 Tau protein is a marker for brain damage. 686 00:29:51,485 --> 00:29:53,875 With Chris, he actually had a, 687 00:29:53,922 --> 00:29:55,922 what would be defined as a severe case of CTE at 688 00:29:55,968 --> 00:29:58,008 40 years old, which is early to have it. 689 00:29:58,057 --> 00:30:01,097 So, it wouldn't just be areas of his cortex or areas 690 00:30:01,147 --> 00:30:04,277 of his brain stem, but there was damage in areas that 691 00:30:04,324 --> 00:30:08,894 you would think could influence emotional behaviors. 692 00:30:08,937 --> 00:30:11,067 And I believe the degeneration of his brain 693 00:30:11,113 --> 00:30:13,863 changed who he was and what he was capable of. 694 00:30:13,899 --> 00:30:15,989 If you get hit in the head thousands of times, 695 00:30:16,031 --> 00:30:18,861 your brain, essentially, can start to rot. 696 00:30:18,904 --> 00:30:20,784 You get this damage in your brain that, 697 00:30:20,819 --> 00:30:22,389 even after you stop getting hit in the head, 698 00:30:22,429 --> 00:30:25,779 will continue to spread and changes who you are and 699 00:30:25,824 --> 00:30:28,134 how you behave, and... 700 00:30:28,174 --> 00:30:29,654 what you become. 701 00:30:29,697 --> 00:30:39,877 ♪ 702 00:30:39,925 --> 00:30:42,275 I think about, you know, when me and Chris would be 703 00:30:42,318 --> 00:30:45,498 talking and he would just be crying so much that, 704 00:30:45,539 --> 00:30:48,109 you know, I wonder why he couldn't control his crying. 705 00:30:48,150 --> 00:30:50,280 Does that, does that go with the concussions? 706 00:30:50,326 --> 00:30:51,756 Does that go with his brain? 707 00:30:51,806 --> 00:30:54,846 You know, Eddie and Chris took a lot of chair shots. 708 00:30:56,028 --> 00:30:57,938 [Announcer] Oh! 709 00:30:57,986 --> 00:31:00,246 And these chair shots from, like, years ago, 710 00:31:00,293 --> 00:31:03,823 were hard and they were mean. 711 00:31:03,862 --> 00:31:05,302 [Audience] Oh! 712 00:31:05,341 --> 00:31:08,951 In the 90s, we used to take chair shots to the head. 713 00:31:08,997 --> 00:31:10,427 That was a badge of honor. 714 00:31:10,477 --> 00:31:12,437 And what I mean by that is, someone would swing 715 00:31:12,479 --> 00:31:13,919 a steel chair at your head... 716 00:31:13,959 --> 00:31:18,009 [Announcer] Oh! Chris' Jericho's helpless! 717 00:31:18,050 --> 00:31:19,660 [Chris] And I literally remember, you would 718 00:31:19,703 --> 00:31:22,323 grit your teeth and you, you'd... 719 00:31:22,358 --> 00:31:24,798 you know, tense yourself and tense your neck... 720 00:31:27,494 --> 00:31:28,934 And just take it. 721 00:31:28,974 --> 00:31:30,064 They hit you on the head with it, 722 00:31:30,105 --> 00:31:31,845 and you just take it, "Ah!" 723 00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:33,460 [Audience] Oh! 724 00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:36,630 That was what you did. That was expected. 725 00:31:36,677 --> 00:31:39,507 If you had a concussion in wrestling... 726 00:31:39,549 --> 00:31:41,029 you just shake it off. 727 00:31:41,073 --> 00:31:42,683 Shake it off, go in there and do it. 728 00:31:42,726 --> 00:31:45,596 And, all of us did it. 729 00:31:45,642 --> 00:31:49,212 [Chavo] I wrestled for 20 plus years... 730 00:31:49,255 --> 00:31:54,385 It makes me wonder... how much CTE do I have? 731 00:31:54,434 --> 00:31:56,044 How much CTE do these other wrestlers have 'cause 732 00:31:56,088 --> 00:31:59,268 we all got it, to some extent, you know. 733 00:31:59,308 --> 00:32:02,828 Is this gonna be my end? 734 00:32:02,877 --> 00:32:04,707 It's one of the most incredible things to me is you have 735 00:32:04,748 --> 00:32:06,928 Harley Race invents the Flying Headbutt and 736 00:32:06,968 --> 00:32:09,228 tells everyone after, "Don't do this move. 737 00:32:09,275 --> 00:32:10,965 It fucks your spine up horribly. 738 00:32:11,016 --> 00:32:13,366 It ruins your ability to have an old age." 739 00:32:13,409 --> 00:32:15,239 Dynamite Kid hears that from Harley Race, 740 00:32:15,281 --> 00:32:16,851 does it his whole career, ends up in a wheelchair. 741 00:32:16,891 --> 00:32:18,591 Dynamite Kid tells Chris Benoit. 742 00:32:18,632 --> 00:32:21,032 Chris Benoit does it his whole career and then loses his mind. 743 00:32:21,069 --> 00:32:23,719 [Audience] Oh! 744 00:32:23,767 --> 00:32:27,287 I mean, there is a clear history of people repeating 745 00:32:27,336 --> 00:32:29,816 the most self-destructive story imaginable, 746 00:32:29,860 --> 00:32:32,990 over and over again. 747 00:32:33,038 --> 00:32:37,258 I think the Benoit tragedy led to some institutional changes. 748 00:32:37,303 --> 00:32:39,703 The awareness of what CTE is, 749 00:32:39,740 --> 00:32:42,310 was never before even a conversation point. 750 00:32:42,351 --> 00:32:43,961 Now it is. 751 00:32:44,005 --> 00:32:47,175 And finally, unprotected chair shots and subsequent 752 00:32:47,226 --> 00:32:50,226 concussions are now being addressed because the 753 00:32:50,272 --> 00:32:53,882 one thing we've gotta do is protect the athlete. 754 00:32:53,928 --> 00:32:56,628 I think when you look at what Chris Benoit did as 755 00:32:56,670 --> 00:32:59,280 a symptom as some sort of medical problem, 756 00:32:59,325 --> 00:33:01,885 whether it's drug use or brain damage, 757 00:33:01,936 --> 00:33:03,416 I think that misses the point. 758 00:33:03,459 --> 00:33:06,459 Ultimately, this thing that is the core reason this 759 00:33:06,506 --> 00:33:08,766 happened was Chris Benoit made a decision when he was 760 00:33:08,812 --> 00:33:12,122 a very young person to do absolutely whatever it took 761 00:33:12,164 --> 00:33:14,084 to succeed at his childhood dream of 762 00:33:14,122 --> 00:33:16,302 becoming a pro wrestling star. 763 00:33:16,342 --> 00:33:18,172 No matter what happened that weekend, 764 00:33:18,213 --> 00:33:22,523 Chris Benoit's story was going to have a tragic end. 765 00:33:22,565 --> 00:33:25,695 I think his fate was sealed the day that Eddie died, 766 00:33:25,742 --> 00:33:27,142 whether he knew it or not. 767 00:33:27,179 --> 00:33:29,619 I don't think anybody could save him after that: 768 00:33:29,659 --> 00:33:32,839 not his kids, not his family, not his other friends. 769 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,140 I just think that was the one guy that he said, 770 00:33:36,188 --> 00:33:38,058 "I can't do it if Eddie's not with me." 771 00:33:38,103 --> 00:33:40,063 ♪ 772 00:33:40,105 --> 00:33:42,055 Whatever it was that he was going through, 773 00:33:42,107 --> 00:33:45,017 you know, I think he just continued to shrink his 774 00:33:45,066 --> 00:33:48,496 whole world until all that was left was just whatever 775 00:33:48,548 --> 00:33:51,198 was in his head that caused him to snap, 776 00:33:51,246 --> 00:33:54,026 and he fucking snapped. 777 00:33:54,075 --> 00:33:55,635 It's not one thing. 778 00:33:55,685 --> 00:33:58,645 I think that it's a factor of alcohol, 779 00:33:58,688 --> 00:34:02,128 and drugs, and yes, possibly CTE, 780 00:34:02,170 --> 00:34:04,870 and stress, and grief. 781 00:34:04,912 --> 00:34:06,872 And all of those things rolled together put him on 782 00:34:06,914 --> 00:34:09,924 a path that weekend that he couldn't get off. 783 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,530 Chris is always gonna be my friend and my brother. 784 00:34:14,574 --> 00:34:16,274 I just know that there was something going on 785 00:34:16,315 --> 00:34:17,875 with him that wasn't him. 786 00:34:17,925 --> 00:34:19,355 And, it's something that, you know, 787 00:34:19,405 --> 00:34:22,835 I'm still very much torn with because you love Chris... 788 00:34:22,886 --> 00:34:24,446 you just hate what he did. 789 00:34:24,497 --> 00:34:28,587 The act of what he did is unthinkable. 790 00:34:28,631 --> 00:34:30,631 Unforgivable. 791 00:34:30,677 --> 00:34:33,457 But it's still hard for me to separate a friendship 792 00:34:33,506 --> 00:34:35,726 that I had with him, matches that I had with him - 793 00:34:35,769 --> 00:34:37,859 moments, times, car rides. 794 00:34:37,901 --> 00:34:39,601 I think I can always look at Chris as one of the 795 00:34:39,642 --> 00:34:43,042 best performers our business has ever seen, 796 00:34:43,081 --> 00:34:44,691 and just kind of leave it at that. 797 00:34:44,734 --> 00:34:48,394 ♪ 798 00:34:48,434 --> 00:34:49,914 [Jim] I get questioned all the time, 799 00:34:49,957 --> 00:34:51,087 "Does Chris Benoit deserve to be in the Hall of Fame," 800 00:34:51,132 --> 00:34:54,142 and I say, absolutely not. No. 801 00:34:54,179 --> 00:34:55,959 The issue is, is that if Chris were here and we could 802 00:34:56,006 --> 00:34:58,786 talk to him, he would say, "Putting me in the Hall of Fame 803 00:34:58,835 --> 00:35:00,355 is gonna be one of the great distractions of the 804 00:35:00,402 --> 00:35:03,282 entire event 'cause all it's gonna do is bring up Nancy, 805 00:35:03,318 --> 00:35:06,538 and Daniel, and Chris and their last 24 hours." 806 00:35:06,582 --> 00:35:09,322 So, therefore, I say, Chris Benoit does not belong 807 00:35:09,368 --> 00:35:13,018 in the WWE Hall of Fame, now or ever. 808 00:35:13,067 --> 00:35:17,767 If two guys that were the same basically their whole life, 809 00:35:17,811 --> 00:35:19,601 and had the same reputation of just being 810 00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:22,339 immaculate professionals, immaculate human beings, 811 00:35:22,381 --> 00:35:26,601 the nicest guys, and they both die very young, 812 00:35:26,646 --> 00:35:29,426 and one's legacy is acclaimed, 813 00:35:29,475 --> 00:35:34,215 and one's is buried so that you almost can't say his name. 814 00:35:34,262 --> 00:35:36,922 If you would have told Chris, you know, 815 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,360 when you die, your name and your body of work 816 00:35:40,399 --> 00:35:44,489 is gonna be erased from existence forever, 817 00:35:44,533 --> 00:35:46,453 it would have broke his heart because I think, 818 00:35:46,492 --> 00:35:47,972 if nothing else, I remember he told me once, 819 00:35:48,015 --> 00:35:49,495 like, "Listen, the critics are the critics, 820 00:35:49,538 --> 00:35:52,058 but if you have the respect of your peers, 821 00:35:52,106 --> 00:35:55,146 then nothing else matters." 822 00:35:55,196 --> 00:35:57,366 So, to find out that he would have lost the respect, 823 00:35:57,416 --> 00:35:59,236 not only of his peers, but his friends, 824 00:35:59,287 --> 00:36:02,857 his family, I don't think he ever wanted that. 825 00:36:02,899 --> 00:36:04,899 It almost took down the whole business. 826 00:36:04,945 --> 00:36:07,025 What Chris did almost-- And that's another thing: 827 00:36:07,077 --> 00:36:10,777 What Chris did almost destroyed the only thing that 828 00:36:10,820 --> 00:36:13,780 he ever loved, from a professional standpoint. 829 00:36:13,823 --> 00:36:15,613 The only thing he ever loved, 830 00:36:15,651 --> 00:36:19,221 pro wrestling, Chris Benoit almost destroyed it. 831 00:36:19,264 --> 00:36:21,574 That would have torn him apart as well. 832 00:36:21,614 --> 00:36:23,664 So, it leads us around to, like, 833 00:36:23,703 --> 00:36:25,533 why did he do it? 834 00:36:25,574 --> 00:36:28,714 And I don't think anyone's ever gonna be able to... 835 00:36:28,751 --> 00:36:38,021 answer that question. 836 00:36:38,065 --> 00:36:40,845 You know, people look at me different now... 837 00:36:40,894 --> 00:36:42,944 because of what he did. 838 00:36:42,983 --> 00:36:45,513 People talking shit behind my back. 839 00:36:45,551 --> 00:36:48,731 Looking at me different. Getting bullied. 840 00:36:48,771 --> 00:36:52,991 Screw it. I'm defending my family... 841 00:36:53,036 --> 00:36:54,686 And what I believe in, you know. 842 00:36:54,734 --> 00:37:00,134 He loved them. That definitely was not him. 843 00:37:00,174 --> 00:37:02,264 He's still my hero. 844 00:37:02,307 --> 00:37:05,787 I think about him all the time. 845 00:37:05,832 --> 00:37:10,102 I want them to recognize Nancy though. 846 00:37:10,140 --> 00:37:11,660 She definitely deserves 847 00:37:11,707 --> 00:37:14,317 the recognition that she doesn't get. 848 00:37:14,362 --> 00:37:16,712 That's the unfortunate and the sad part about the story 849 00:37:16,756 --> 00:37:21,536 is that she needs to be remembered for a strong woman, 850 00:37:21,587 --> 00:37:24,587 pioneering in this business, and her talent. 851 00:37:24,633 --> 00:37:29,603 And, focus on that instead of what happened to her. 852 00:37:29,638 --> 00:37:31,508 She's a Hall of Fame'r all across the board, 853 00:37:31,553 --> 00:37:32,773 in my opinion. 854 00:37:32,815 --> 00:37:35,775 She was a pioneer and one of the best at 855 00:37:35,818 --> 00:37:38,038 a role that doesn't exist anymore. 856 00:37:38,081 --> 00:37:41,561 As a pro wrestling manager, she created the role, 857 00:37:41,607 --> 00:37:43,167 she perfected the role, and then, 858 00:37:43,217 --> 00:37:46,217 when stopped doing it, the role basically disappeared. 859 00:37:46,264 --> 00:37:49,184 I would like nothing better than to see Nancy... 860 00:37:49,223 --> 00:37:51,313 You know, Nancy Benoit. 861 00:37:51,356 --> 00:37:54,006 Once again, you can't even say that name, right. 862 00:37:54,054 --> 00:37:55,934 Woman. 863 00:37:55,969 --> 00:37:57,319 I would like nothing better than to see Woman 864 00:37:57,362 --> 00:37:59,362 be put into the WWE Hall of Fame. 865 00:37:59,407 --> 00:38:01,537 ♪ 866 00:38:01,583 --> 00:38:04,933 She was a great mom. She was a beautiful friend. 867 00:38:04,978 --> 00:38:08,418 And, Nancy will always be the superstar that 868 00:38:08,460 --> 00:38:11,900 she was meant to be, in my, in my mind. 869 00:38:11,941 --> 00:38:13,641 Can I blow a kiss? 870 00:38:13,682 --> 00:38:17,952 [indistinct chatter] 871 00:38:17,991 --> 00:38:22,001 [off-screen] What do you remember the most about Nancy? 872 00:38:22,038 --> 00:38:25,348 I remember everything about her. 873 00:38:25,390 --> 00:38:29,830 I remember how her hair smells. 874 00:38:29,872 --> 00:38:34,572 She used to tuck me in with both hands, 875 00:38:34,616 --> 00:38:37,316 real hard, like, on both sides of the blanket, 876 00:38:37,358 --> 00:38:38,968 to tuck me in. 877 00:38:39,012 --> 00:38:42,802 Almost like she was putting a lock on me to keep me safe. 878 00:38:42,842 --> 00:38:44,932 And to this day, when I get sad, or upset, 879 00:38:44,974 --> 00:38:49,944 or stressed out, I will tuck myself in on the sides 880 00:38:49,979 --> 00:38:52,679 so that I feel more secure. 881 00:38:52,721 --> 00:38:55,331 [off-screen] What do you remember the most about Daniel? 882 00:38:55,376 --> 00:38:57,546 [sighs] Everything. 883 00:38:57,596 --> 00:39:00,686 I close my eyes and I can see him doing everything. 884 00:39:00,729 --> 00:39:02,819 He was our whole lives, all of us. 885 00:39:02,862 --> 00:39:06,172 He was very, very, very, very loved... 886 00:39:06,213 --> 00:39:08,873 By our family, by his siblings. 887 00:39:08,911 --> 00:39:13,001 He and his brother were just thick as thieves. 888 00:39:13,046 --> 00:39:14,696 [off-screen] Did you go on to have any relationship with 889 00:39:14,743 --> 00:39:17,623 the Benoit family afterward? 890 00:39:17,659 --> 00:39:21,839 I tried... Unsuccessfully. 891 00:39:21,881 --> 00:39:26,021 ♪ 892 00:39:26,059 --> 00:39:28,409 I was told - I won't say by who - 893 00:39:28,453 --> 00:39:31,193 that the children didn't want anything to do with us. 894 00:39:31,238 --> 00:39:33,808 And, apparently the children were told that 895 00:39:33,849 --> 00:39:35,419 we didn't want to have anything to do with them 896 00:39:35,460 --> 00:39:37,850 'cause of what their dad did... 897 00:39:37,897 --> 00:39:42,467 Which was absolutely not the truth. 898 00:39:42,510 --> 00:39:44,990 [David] My last trip with my family 899 00:39:45,034 --> 00:39:49,264 was for WrestleMania XXIII, in Detroit. 900 00:39:49,299 --> 00:39:52,429 And then after the match, we flew back to Atlanta. 901 00:39:52,477 --> 00:39:56,607 Me, Nancy... and Daniel. 902 00:39:56,655 --> 00:39:59,695 My dad went to Mexico for a tour. 903 00:39:59,745 --> 00:40:02,175 And then, me, Nancy, and Daniel were just 904 00:40:02,225 --> 00:40:05,655 hanging around the house, taking pictures, 905 00:40:05,707 --> 00:40:09,927 you know, out by the trees with the dogs. 906 00:40:09,972 --> 00:40:13,592 And then... You know... 907 00:40:23,377 --> 00:40:25,067 You're doing it, brother. Keep going. 908 00:40:25,118 --> 00:40:26,898 It's all good. Just let it out. 909 00:40:26,946 --> 00:40:28,636 That's what this is all about, brother. 910 00:40:28,687 --> 00:40:32,557 ♪ 911 00:40:32,604 --> 00:40:33,784 [sniffles] 912 00:40:33,822 --> 00:40:35,652 David is absolutely a victim. 913 00:40:35,694 --> 00:40:39,184 He's a great kid that was just dealt a bad hand. 914 00:40:39,219 --> 00:40:41,049 And it's just not fair. It's not right. 915 00:40:41,090 --> 00:40:42,440 He didn't do anything wrong. He was just-- 916 00:40:42,483 --> 00:40:45,573 He's an innocent bystander in all of this. 917 00:40:54,626 --> 00:40:57,276 [sighs] Fuck. 918 00:40:57,324 --> 00:41:00,894 [sighs] 919 00:41:07,247 --> 00:41:10,597 [sighs] 920 00:41:10,642 --> 00:41:13,512 [Chris] I felt that because Chris killed his family, 921 00:41:13,558 --> 00:41:16,428 that the family he left behind was automatically 922 00:41:16,474 --> 00:41:19,134 black balled from the world. 923 00:41:19,172 --> 00:41:22,612 Like, they're gonna be blamed for what Chris did. 924 00:41:22,654 --> 00:41:25,444 To me, those two needed to be reconnected because, 925 00:41:25,483 --> 00:41:27,573 talking with David, and meeting Sandra and 926 00:41:27,615 --> 00:41:29,485 knowing she was having the same issues, 927 00:41:29,530 --> 00:41:32,400 and pain, and hurt that David had, 928 00:41:32,446 --> 00:41:35,666 and nobody will ever really understand what they 929 00:41:35,710 --> 00:41:37,670 went through with the exception of each other. 930 00:41:37,712 --> 00:41:39,452 So, I thought if I, if I could connect them, 931 00:41:39,497 --> 00:41:41,627 if they had a chance to talk, 932 00:41:41,673 --> 00:41:44,893 that maybe they could move on and still realize that 933 00:41:44,937 --> 00:41:47,237 they have family in each other. 934 00:41:47,287 --> 00:41:50,287 Chris Jericho, wrestling angel come to life, 935 00:41:50,333 --> 00:41:52,513 he gave my number to my nephew, 936 00:41:52,553 --> 00:41:54,343 and gave my nephew's number to me. 937 00:41:54,381 --> 00:41:58,171 We hadn't talked since before everything happened. 938 00:41:58,211 --> 00:42:02,961 [David] So, 13 years the last time we saw each other. 939 00:42:02,998 --> 00:42:05,128 It's been a very long. 940 00:42:05,174 --> 00:42:07,394 She finally called me. I answered. 941 00:42:07,437 --> 00:42:09,177 We talked on the phone for... 942 00:42:09,222 --> 00:42:11,222 probably a good 2 hours. 943 00:42:11,267 --> 00:42:14,747 And now, going to watch wrestling... 944 00:42:14,793 --> 00:42:18,413 'cause I still love it. It's in my blood. 945 00:42:18,448 --> 00:42:21,058 Feels like we never were apart. 946 00:42:21,103 --> 00:42:22,763 Felt like we just reconnected. 947 00:42:22,801 --> 00:42:25,891 Left off where we started. Nothing has changed. 948 00:42:25,934 --> 00:42:28,594 She's still my Auntie Sza-Sza. 949 00:42:28,633 --> 00:42:30,593 [Chris] Chris lives on in David every day. 950 00:42:30,635 --> 00:42:32,765 And Nancy lives on in Sandra every day. 951 00:42:32,811 --> 00:42:36,731 And I think they were both lost when Chris and Nancy died. 952 00:42:36,771 --> 00:42:40,821 So, hopefully, this will help them get found. 953 00:42:40,862 --> 00:42:41,952 - You feel better. - Light. 954 00:42:41,994 --> 00:42:43,524 A weight's been lifted. 955 00:42:43,561 --> 00:42:46,041 Well, 'cause you guys have the same perspective, you know. 956 00:42:46,085 --> 00:42:47,605 I think more than anyone else. 957 00:42:47,652 --> 00:42:49,262 It's important for you guys to stick together on this, right. 958 00:42:49,305 --> 00:42:52,175 'Cause you know, yeah, like we can be friends and supportive, 959 00:42:52,221 --> 00:42:54,051 but it's not the same as for you guys. 960 00:42:54,093 --> 00:42:55,923 No, it's not the same. It's family. 961 00:42:55,964 --> 00:42:57,144 Yeah, exactly. 962 00:42:57,183 --> 00:43:01,493 I've never been-- [clears throat] 963 00:43:01,535 --> 00:43:03,535 I've never been more grateful and happy 964 00:43:03,581 --> 00:43:07,721 to see someone that I love as I was when I saw my nephew. 965 00:43:07,759 --> 00:43:10,409 [off-screen] Do you think you will ever be able to, 966 00:43:10,457 --> 00:43:14,107 or want to give forgiveness towards Chris? 967 00:43:14,156 --> 00:43:17,856 Yes, I think I do, some day, want to be able to forgive him. 968 00:43:17,899 --> 00:43:22,989 I do. Because, carrying around... 969 00:43:23,035 --> 00:43:28,515 the burden of hate... gets exhausting. 970 00:43:28,562 --> 00:43:33,442 Everyone deserves forgiveness. 971 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,830 And, everyone deserves mercy. 972 00:43:35,874 --> 00:43:38,574 So, I think that within time, 973 00:43:38,616 --> 00:43:43,006 there'll be a day when I get on my knees and 974 00:43:43,055 --> 00:43:49,445 I finally say it, that I forgive him. 975 00:43:49,496 --> 00:43:51,626 You never know, it might be tomorrow. 976 00:43:51,672 --> 00:43:55,202 But, I do know it's not today. 977 00:43:55,241 --> 00:44:00,161 ♪ 77842

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