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Beautiful weather,
stunning locations,
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the stuff luxury dreams are made of.
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Welcome to the world of the cruise.
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The ship really becomes
the destination
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and you don't want to get off.
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For many, it's been the holiday
of a lifetime.
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You just wake up, look out of the
window and say, wow.
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But for how much longer?
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The pandemic has hit travel
and tourism harder than most.
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It's been a train wreck.
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It literally turned the taps off
and the cruise ships are
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literally having to cancel cruises,
send people back home.
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And cruise companies are struggling
to weather the storm.
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Royal Caribbean, Carnival
and Norwegian are haemorrhaging
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a billion dollars a month.
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Their mega ships sit idle, waiting
for the green light to sail again.
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I haven't gone this long
without a cruise for 20, 30 years.
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So I'm delving into this
multibillion pound industry.
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The company itself knows
that it can basically exploit
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the little guy.
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I'll discover how cruise operators
have sailed through a barrage
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of criticisms and disasters.
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I had friends on board.
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Very sad, shocking.
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Meet the people that have shaped
the way we cruise.
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This was a mind-blowing project
to get involved in.
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And find out if there is a future
for cruising
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after Covid crippled the industry.
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Is there a chance that the cruise
industry could go bust entirely?
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I must admit there were times
when I thought that.
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When cruises began, they were
the ultimate luxury holiday,
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the preserve of the wealthy.
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Since then, cruise lines
have broadened their appeal, selling
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luxury cruises that cater
for all budget types and age groups.
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And last year, over 300 ships
were cruising around the world,
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making this one of the biggest
tourism success stories of our time.
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I've actually been on somewhere
in the region of 85 cruises.
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I lost count a while ago.
I am that cruise addict.
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As of now, I've been to 34
countries and 22 of them
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have been from cruising.
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There's something about
being on a ship.
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It is a bit romantic.
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I mean, forget the fact
that I've married two husbands
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from cruise ships,
but it is a romantic situation.
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Each morning you wake up, you've got
a different vista, a different port.
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You're not having to pack and
unpack, and you just wake up,
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look out of the window and say, wow.
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Last year, two million Brits
contributed
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to a total of 30 million cruise
passengers travelling the world.
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Before the pandemic,
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the cruise industry
was worth over £100 billion.
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Huge floating resorts
were continually skirting the globe.
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From Alaska to Antarctica,
the Med to Mexico,
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it was the sort of holiday
that cruise converts
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kept coming back to.
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But how a luxury trip on a ship
became a treat that many of us
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could aspire to is an incredible
story of engineering and marketing.
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The success of the cruise industry
was born from the brilliant insight
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that the ship itself
could be the destination
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rather than just the journey.
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A veteran of more than 200 cruises
over the last 50 years,
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maritime historian
Roger Cartwright's
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knowledge of cruising
is encyclopaedic.
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So, Roger, tell me about
the beginning of
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the modern cruise industry.
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In the late 1960s,
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a Norwegian called Knut Kloster
built a small ship
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that had entertainment spaces
on them.
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They served good food and they ran
seven-day cruises
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out of ports like Miami,
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and from that little acorn,
a huge industry grew.
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That was the start of Carnival
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and it was the start of
Norwegian Cruise Line.
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Drawing on the first class
experience offered by
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ocean liners like the QE2,
cruise ships became a playground
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for an older, wealthier set.
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But the appeal of invitations
to dine on the captain's table
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and play shuffleboard on deck
was soon dated,
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and the luxury cruise struggled
with an image problem.
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Cruising tended to be a bit stuffy.
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You would get dressed for dinner
every night
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when you weren't in port.
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Entertainment was quite basic.
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To make matters worse, in the UK
it was now competing with the rise
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of affordable air travel
and cheap package holidays.
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The idea of a pleasure cruise
had lost its appeal and its saviour
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came from an unlikely place.
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# The Love Boat. #
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The Love Boat was a seminal American
TV series that travelled the globe.
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Shown in almost 100 countries,
it revolutionised
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how people saw cruises,
sparking a spectacular boom.
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The dramatic storylines and big
hair emphasised the glamour
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and romance of cruising.
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It was the perfect advertisement
for the cruise industry.
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It didn't cost them a penny,
but led to billions in revenue.
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And rumour has it, that staff on
board even grew moustaches
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like Isaac, the bartender,
to increase their tips.
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Really, it said to ordinary people,
"This is a holiday for you...
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"..and it is fun."
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I did watch The Love Boat,
yes, I was addicted to it.
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It was all fun... Sand, sea
and sex, dare I say it?
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It just gave a whole different
aspect to cruising.
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It was eye opening.
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You know, every day they used
to go to bed and then get up
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in another place.
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And I just thought, "Wow!"
It really made me think
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that that was what I wanted for my
future, to be on a cruise ship.
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With the help of The Love Boat,
by 1980, passenger numbers
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had tripled to nearly 1.5 million
a year.
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But even though its popularity
was increasing, it was still
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an expensive holiday.
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Cruise operators knew that to
expand, they would need to make
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that holiday more affordable
beyond the very rich.
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And so the mega ship was born.
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In 1988, Royal Caribbean
commissioned the largest
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cruise ship ever built
at that time.
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It was called Sovereign of the Seas.
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She was a floating resort.
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I think I once heard it described
as a horizontal Hilton.
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It took five years to design
and build and cost
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175 million US dollars.
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Stuart Phillips was part
of the design team that created
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the extravagant interior spaces
that would become the future
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of the cruise system.
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So, Stuart, could you tell me
what your brief was
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for the Sovereign of the Seas?
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Well, they were after
a five-star, glamorous,
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luxury hotel at sea.
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How did you create that
five-star opulence?
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We used marble and all sorts
of high-quality materials
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in the shopping mall.
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The champagne bar
is an Art Deco theme,
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etched glass designs on the windows.
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Leather seats, very, very
high, high class.
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What you would expect
in a luxury hotel.
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Did you feel that you were part
of the beginning
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of something extraordinary?
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This was a mind-blowing project
to get involved in.
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Now everybody talks with such
reverence about Sovereign
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as the first great mega ship.
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To capitalise on the success
of Sovereign,
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two even larger sister ships
were launched.
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Royal Caribbean had found
the blueprint
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for the future of cruising.
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The success of the first mega ships
sparked a kind of space race
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between the cruise companies.
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The more popular cruising became,
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the more possibility the operators
saw for expanding even further.
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As a world-leading cruise industry
analyst, Tony Peisley, understands
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exactly how the cruise operators
were able to sell luxury
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to the masses.
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And it all comes down to
economies of scale.
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If you've got one ship,
2,000 passengers...
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..one ship, 4,000 passengers,
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you've still only got one captain,
one head of department,
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one chief engineer, propulsion
doesn't cost twice as much
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for a bigger ship than a ship
half the size.
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So automatically,
you're cutting your costs.
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And it worked.
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By the 1990s, an astonishing
3.8 million people
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were holidaying on cruise ships.
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The industry was booming.
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Cruise companies needed more ships
to keep up with demand.
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In just ten years, the number
of ships on order had tripled.
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They were built with more pools,
more bars and more restaurants.
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Jim Evans has been responsible
for buying, refitting
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and launching these giants
of the seas.
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Jim, can you tell me, how are
cruise ships built?
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These days, they're assembled piece
by piece inside a big dry dock,
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which is often inside
an enormous hangar,
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bigger than an aeroplane hangar.
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And has it got quicker over time
to build ships?
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Very much so.
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The old QE2, built in the 1960s,
took about three and a half years.
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She was 70,000 tonnes.
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Some of these monsters we're
building now, 200,000 tonnes,
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take 18 months, two years
at maximum.
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Move over Sovereign of the Seas.
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This is the world's largest
cruise ship today,
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Symphony of the Seas.
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With 16 passenger decks,
22 restaurants,
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four pools, an ice rink
and a water park,
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this modern mega ship makes the size
and cost of Sovereign
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look like it was built on a budget.
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Symphony cost almost £1 billion
to build,
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which means that just
one berth comes in
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at a cost price of £150,000.
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And that's just the tip
of the iceberg.
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There's $60 billion worth
of ships on order
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over the next seven years.
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The mind boggles at how
cruise lines finance just one
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of these billion-pound vessels.
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How long does it take to recoup
that money?
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In the recent good times, it's
probably taken five or six years.
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Wow! I'm really surprised by that.
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How long will a ship
be in service for?
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Typically about 40 years.
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And you assume it's a ship
with about 3,000 passengers.
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That's about 26 million profit
in a year.
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To put that in perspective,
before the pandemic, the cruise
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sector was the fastest-growing area
of the travel industry, at almost
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twice the rate
of land-based tourism.
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Coming up, we take a look at how
cruise ships found ways to entice
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more passengers on board
than ever before.
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I think because it's now become
such good value for money,
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it's almost a resort holiday now.
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And how they squeeze our wallets.
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On board excursions,
speciality restaurants...
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..photography, the spas,
they will try and get
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money out of you in many ways.
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In the early 1970s, cruising
was a neat holiday
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for the wealthy elite.
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A handful of purpose-built cruise
ships, often well-to-do passengers,
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activities like shuffleboard,
masquerade balls
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and bridge tournaments.
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Since then, the ships have quadrupled
in size and number,
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and the industry is now worth
over £100 billion.
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At the beginning of this year,
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there were around 300 cruise ships
touring the globe.
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And thanks to economies of scale,
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the modern mega ships have made
cruising affordable,
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broadening the appeal of a luxury
cruise to all kinds of people.
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Even on one ship, you would
have people like...
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..well, like us, really -
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working in a call centre
and having, you know, basic jobs,
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to multiple millionaires -
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and we all mix in together,
having a laugh together.
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When we started cruising, most
people were cruising to be cruising,
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but I think, because it's now become
such good value for money,
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it's almost a resort holiday now.
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There's now a cruise for every
budget and taste -
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single cruises, couples' cruises,
adventure cruises,
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even ballroom dance cruises.
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Taking inspiration from resorts
on land,
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cruise ships were designed
with cinemas on board,
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mini golf courses, water slides...
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There's just so many things
that you can do on the ship,
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whether it's physical activities
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like rock climbing
or ice skating on board.
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You can have ziplining across
the ship, and surfing simulators.
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You can pretend to surf on the ship.
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I think mega ships are going
to be the future of cruising,
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because you're always going to want
that next activity
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and next adventure to go on.
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Those mega ships
really do have the wow factor.
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They are designed to keep passengers
entertained 24 hours a day.
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I've been an entertainer
of all kinds - singer, dancer,
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on all the different lines.
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Year round from January
to January, it's been fantastic.
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We've seen some top class
performances, haven't we? Yeah.
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Big stars on board, haven't we?
Over the years.
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Yes, we have. We've seen
Ronnie Corbett, Claire Sweeney...
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Gary Wilmot. Gary Wilmot.
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Ooh, Tom O'Connor's been on board.
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The ship really becomes
the destination,
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and you actually don't want to leave
it to go into port,
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because there's so much to do
and so much to see and experience
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that, actually,
you don't want to get off.
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In the last 20 years, passenger
numbers have tripled to 30 million.
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The cruise companies
have positioned themselves
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so they've manage to please
all of their customers all the time.
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There are mainstream brands,
premium brands, luxury brands.
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And different operators
target different countries.
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For example, Carnival Princess
appeals to the American market.
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P&O is aimed at us Brits,
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and Costa Cruises
targets the Italians.
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So, as the industry grew,
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they really could offer
something for everyone.
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You might call it accessible luxury,
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and these brands are owned
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by a surprisingly small number
of operators.
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The lion's share,
around 70% of the market,
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is made up of just three cruise
lines -
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Carnival, Royal Caribbean
and Norwegian.
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Combined, they bring in nearly
40 billion US dollars a year -
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and out of the big three, Carnival
has developed a bit of a reputation
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for eating up the competition
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to broaden their reach
into different markets.
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Everyone knows P&O.
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Well, they were bought
by Carnival in 2003.
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Cunard, bought by Carnival,
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Holland America, Carnival,
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and, yep, Costa Cruises, Carnival.
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These brands might be owned
by the same three cruise companies,
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but prices vary enormously.
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The general rule is the lower
the ticket price,
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the more little extras
you'll pay for on board.
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So as the prices have come down,
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some of the little special
little things that used to have
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have also gone with them -
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things like free ice creams
at certain times of day.
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They'll be selling you all sorts
of excursions and drinks packages,
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and...even to go on an on a tour
of the ship costs money these days,
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which it never used to.
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And drinks on board can actually
end up costing more
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than the cruise price itself.
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So, you just have to be careful
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about what you're doing on your
cruise and just budget for it.
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They try and sort of to sell to you.
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It's very quick, very easy.
They are experts in doing it.
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Onboard excursions, speciality
restaurants, the photography,
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the spas - they will try and get
money out of you in many ways.
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The reason being is,
you're on the ship -
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you are a captive audience.
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So, when I go on a cruise,
I happily pay for speciality dining,
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things like shore excursions,
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and I also like to spend
money in the spa.
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So, I always do spend quite a bit
on a cruise.
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And all these costs soon add up
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and become a significant revenue
stream for the cruise lines.
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In just one day, a ship with 5,000
people on board
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could make over £50,000 in profit
from a shore excursion.
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Academic and advocate for a more
transparent cruise industry
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Professor Ross Klein has been
studying the revenue generated
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by cruise ships for decades.
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They're going to hold back 50%
or more of what you pay
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as their commission
for selling it to you.
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They're going to get kickbacks
as high as 40%
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through their shopping programme
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from the stores
they advertise ashore.
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Add this to the ticket price
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and, on the larger ships,
profits could be over £1 million
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in just one week.
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Over £150,000 profit a day.
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It's big business.
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in terms of takings,
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around 70% of the revenue that makes
it into a cruise company's coffers
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is from ticket sales.
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The other 30% is made up of
all those little extras
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when we're on board -
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and every penny of revenue counts,
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because this is an industry
with very high fixed costs.
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Just staff wages can add
up to over £100,000,000 a day.
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Then there's the food, the fuel,
maintenance - the list goes on.
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So, it's little wonder cruise lines
are doing away with small luxuries
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to cut their costs.
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Back in the mid-1990s,
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Royal Caribbean stopped providing
chocolate on the pillows at night,
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a turndown service,
to save $50,000 annually.
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But cutting back on freebies
isn't the only way
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cruise companies save money.
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They can maximise profits
by incorporating their businesses
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in tax havens, and by having their
ships fly a flag of convenience.
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Can you tell me how cruise operators
use flags of convenience?
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Yes, it's actually very similar to
offshore financial centres. Right?
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So, if you register with
this offshore registry,
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with this flag of convenience,
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you have really
a whole different idea
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in terms of what
you're paying for taxes.
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So, it really can, and allows,
for tax avoidance.
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Take Carnival. Although their
headquarters is in Miami,
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they have ships flying
the Panamanian flag,
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the flag of the Bahamas
and the Maltese flag -
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all tax havens - and the company
itself is incorporated in Panama.
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So, that's why Carnival Corporation
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can earn $3 billion net profit
and have paid no income tax.
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They're registered in Panama.
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A big fat zero - zero tax?
And Royal Caribbean, the same thing.
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They're registered in Liberia.
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They pay no corporate income tax.
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NCL is registered in the Bahamas,
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and they, again, pay no
corporate income tax.
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It's the beauty of being registered
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someplace other than where
you're actually operating from.
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Incredible.
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The cruise lines say that
the countries they visit
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benefit from the port
and maritime fees
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that they have to pay
around the world.
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During 2018, in the US alone,
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the cruise industry contributed
over $50 billion to the economy -
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but, over the years,
the operators have come under fire
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for other ways they reduce
their running costs.
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Coming up, we take a look at
the disasters and PR nightmares
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that could have rocked
the cruise industry.
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From poor working conditions...
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They'd be packed into cabins,
possibly six to cabin.
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The company itself knows that it can
basically exploit the little guy.
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..to sinking ships.
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I had friends on board.
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It's very sad. It's shocking.
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The rise of the cruise industry
is one of the most extraordinary
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boom stories of our time.
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But of all the Covid casualties...
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..it's one of the most spectacular.
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Since the 1970s, when just a handful
of purpose-built ships
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carried 500,000 passengers a year,
it's ballooned to a fleet
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with over 300 ships carrying
30 million holiday-makers,
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it's now an industry valued
at well over £100 billion.
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It boomed by making luxury
affordable to everyone.
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But at the heart of luxury
is outstanding service,
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which requires a high headcount
of staff to pamper
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and attend to our every need.
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This quality of service is the main
reason why the satisfaction levels
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that cruise holidays command,
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have always been among the highest
of anything in the tourism business.
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People come away thinking
they've had more,
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they've had their
expectations exceeded.
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And to keep the passengers pampered,
the larger ships can have
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over 2,000 staff on board.
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They work very hard.
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And not only that, not only
do they work hard,
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but they're always pleasant.
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On one of the cruises I went on,
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I would order at midnight
a hot chocolate every night,
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and that just ended up
being my thing.
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And one day when I called room
service, he answered, saying,
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"One hot chocolate, anything else?
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And I said, "You got me,
you know what I like,
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"nothing else, like,
that's perfect."
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You meet a waiter on one cruise and
you might turn up in the dining room
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up to a year or more later,
and they actually remember you,
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and they'll come over and hug you
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and show you photographs
of their children,
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and I think that is brilliant.
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But the luxury of doting staff comes
at a lower cost
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to the cruise operator
than you might think.
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They're well known for hiring
workers from developing nations,
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and thanks to the use of flags
of convenience,
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cruise ships aren't necessarily
bound by the same workers' rights
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that you have in the UK.
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Some crew can expect a seven-day
working week, 12 hour shifts,
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cramped living quarters
and low wages.
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We have a lot of Filipino
cruise members,
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we have a lot of Indonesians.
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People from all over the world
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are working on board the cruise ship
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and they're away for six, seven,
eight, nine months at a time.
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We've bought presents for their
children when we're in ports,
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that they could take home.
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One of them had a brand-new baby
he hadn't even seen yet,
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which is... Which is really sad.
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David is a former cruise
ship photographer.
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So, when I was working on the ships,
they had to go away
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from the passenger areas during
the... When they weren't working.
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They'd have a crew bar,
but they'd be packed into cabins,
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possibly six to a cabin.
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And after working for five years
on cruise ships, Nick,
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part of the sports team
and Kenner, a dancer,
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know first-hand the huge
discrepancies in pay
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and working conditions for crew
on cruise ships.
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The system that's put in place
on the cruise ship
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are set, you know, ranks.
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You've got no stripes,
which is, you're bottom.
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Working crew in the engines,
we call "Blue Boys",
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obviously because they wear
blue overalls all the time.
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Then it kind of goes up from
there, like restaurants, bar.
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As you get higher you're getting
into the entertainment
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side of things, which is where
we come into play,
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which is a huge stripe position.
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Below, too... There's a difference.
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There's a difference the way
they get treated.
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Also in terms of living
accommodations...
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..so you have deck zero,
which is basically where all
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of the dancers, the ice skaters,
the ice cast, the cruise division,
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all of those people are staying.
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And then you have the Blue Boys
who are on the tween deck.
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So that's the deck below.
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So deck zero is about sea level.
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And the tween deck
is completely underwater.
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It's horrendous.
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And then we don't think that
the cabins could get smaller,
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but they literally get smaller.
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They get a job on a cruise ship
and it's really good money for them.
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It's - even though they're getting
paid very minimum
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of what they can get paid.
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So they're really grateful for that.
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But the company itself knows
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that it can basically exploit
the little guy.
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Seafarer's Help, how may I help you?
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For 15 years, Chester Quintal
has been on the front line
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at the International Seafarer
Welfare and Assistance Network,
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managing helplines that take
calls from crew
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concerned about
their working conditions.
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So, as helpline manager,
I've seen anecdotal evidence
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from our cases of seafarers,
from the Philippines, from India,
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groups of seafarers working
18, 16 hours per day.
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And they say to us that they
are pressured to log...
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..a shorter number of hours per day,
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instead of logging the correct time.
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But for many workers from developing
countries, the pay on ships
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will be far more than they
could earn at home.
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Clearly, there is mutual
advantage here.
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The corporation gets the labour
and the employee gets
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financial benefit on it.
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However, if that is not done
correctly, not done fairly,
486
00:25:32,340 --> 00:25:35,300
that means that the employee
actually can get harmed.
487
00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:38,180
So that can be in terms
of working conditions,
488
00:25:38,180 --> 00:25:41,140
in terms of the type of expectations
of their labour.
489
00:25:41,140 --> 00:25:43,500
You know, what sort of hours
are they working?
490
00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:46,100
What sort of conditions
are they working in?
491
00:25:46,100 --> 00:25:48,380
And also an issue of remuneration.
492
00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:49,900
So, how much are they getting paid?
493
00:25:49,900 --> 00:25:52,100
In the developed world...
494
00:25:53,620 --> 00:25:56,220
..we like to go on cheap holidays.
495
00:25:56,220 --> 00:25:57,380
We like to buy...
496
00:25:58,980 --> 00:26:01,340
..cheap goods.
497
00:26:01,340 --> 00:26:03,140
I think, until that change...
498
00:26:04,300 --> 00:26:09,020
..there will always be seafarers
out there...
499
00:26:11,020 --> 00:26:13,620
..who will most likely, erm...
500
00:26:14,740 --> 00:26:16,260
..suffer.
501
00:26:16,260 --> 00:26:19,820
The rights of crew have improved
significantly in recent years.
502
00:26:19,820 --> 00:26:22,540
In 2013, industry
watchdogs implemented
503
00:26:22,540 --> 00:26:25,820
the Maritime Labour Convention,
setting minimum standards
504
00:26:25,820 --> 00:26:30,220
for workers on ships, including
set hours for work, and rest,
505
00:26:30,220 --> 00:26:34,300
payment of wages and repatriation
at the end of contracts.
506
00:26:34,300 --> 00:26:37,580
But paying low wages isn't the only
way the cruise lines
507
00:26:37,580 --> 00:26:41,620
minimise running costs to make
cruising affordable to the masses.
508
00:26:41,620 --> 00:26:44,580
When ships aren't bound by
the strict laws enforced
509
00:26:44,580 --> 00:26:47,620
in some countries, operators
can be tempted to save money
510
00:26:47,620 --> 00:26:51,300
in other areas, like their
environmental obligations.
511
00:26:52,340 --> 00:26:54,060
In 2017, Princess Cruises,
512
00:26:54,060 --> 00:26:57,340
owned by the largest of the cruise
operators, Carnival,
513
00:26:57,340 --> 00:27:00,460
pleaded guilty to deliberately
polluting the ocean
514
00:27:00,460 --> 00:27:05,020
by using a so-called magic pipe
to syphon off oily engine waste,
515
00:27:05,020 --> 00:27:08,540
dumping it into the ocean off
the coast of Southampton.
516
00:27:08,540 --> 00:27:11,580
They were fined $40 million,
517
00:27:11,580 --> 00:27:13,540
which might just be the biggest fine
518
00:27:13,540 --> 00:27:16,620
that's ever been handed
to a cruise company.
519
00:27:16,620 --> 00:27:18,980
But it isn't a one-off.
520
00:27:18,980 --> 00:27:22,740
Over the last ten years,
there have been 78 cited cases
521
00:27:22,740 --> 00:27:25,780
of environmental violations
by cruise lines.
522
00:27:25,780 --> 00:27:30,180
Last year alone, Holland America,
Maritime Executive and Carnival
523
00:27:30,180 --> 00:27:32,820
were handed out fines
with a combined worth
524
00:27:32,820 --> 00:27:36,140
of over 20 million US dollars.
525
00:27:36,140 --> 00:27:39,820
The reality is, that these huge
floating hotels, by nature,
526
00:27:39,820 --> 00:27:42,620
also have to be floating
rubbish bins.
527
00:27:42,620 --> 00:27:46,700
Everything that is consumed on board
eventually ends up as waste.
528
00:27:46,700 --> 00:27:49,780
Well, if you take one of
the largest ships afloat,
529
00:27:49,780 --> 00:27:51,460
the ones that Royal
Caribbean operate
530
00:27:51,460 --> 00:27:53,900
that have about 6,000 passengers,
531
00:27:53,900 --> 00:27:56,260
that single ship
in a one week voyage
532
00:27:56,260 --> 00:28:00,580
is going to produce 15 million
litres of grey water from showers,
533
00:28:00,580 --> 00:28:03,540
from sinks, from the galley,
534
00:28:03,540 --> 00:28:06,140
from - they empty
the swimming pool...
535
00:28:06,140 --> 00:28:09,020
All the water except the water
from toilets...
536
00:28:09,020 --> 00:28:12,900
..is going to produce 1.2 million
litres of...
537
00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:15,620
..of sewage or black water.
538
00:28:15,620 --> 00:28:18,860
It's going to produce food waste,
cardboard, bottles,
539
00:28:18,860 --> 00:28:21,660
everything else that gets packaged.
540
00:28:21,660 --> 00:28:24,740
That is a phenomenal amount
of waste, isn't it?
541
00:28:24,740 --> 00:28:27,380
A cruise ship with 6,000 people
is a small town,
542
00:28:27,380 --> 00:28:30,540
and it produces
all the same problems.
543
00:28:30,540 --> 00:28:32,900
As an ex-cruise photographer,
544
00:28:32,900 --> 00:28:37,500
David has seen first-hand how cruise
ships used to discard their waste.
545
00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:41,020
Cruise ships were far more
polluting back in the '80s,
546
00:28:41,020 --> 00:28:45,420
and I personally witnessed the bin
bags being hurled off the back deck,
547
00:28:45,420 --> 00:28:48,540
erm, hundreds of them, probably.
548
00:28:48,540 --> 00:28:51,660
I have to confess, I was guilty
on one occasion of,
549
00:28:51,660 --> 00:28:54,140
as you can imagine,
as a cruise ship photographer,
550
00:28:54,140 --> 00:28:55,940
we had thousands of pictures
left over
551
00:28:55,940 --> 00:28:57,500
and one night we went up on deck
552
00:28:57,500 --> 00:29:00,660
and we hurled them off
into the sea...
553
00:29:00,660 --> 00:29:03,460
..thinking that was the last
we'd see them.
554
00:29:03,460 --> 00:29:06,940
And about a month later...
555
00:29:06,940 --> 00:29:09,740
..we got severely reprimanded,
556
00:29:09,740 --> 00:29:12,220
as all our pictures had washed up
on someone's beach...
557
00:29:13,580 --> 00:29:16,220
..and every one of them had
the cruise line
558
00:29:16,220 --> 00:29:18,620
and the name of the ship
written on it.
559
00:29:18,620 --> 00:29:22,180
So I feel terribly guilty
about that.
560
00:29:22,180 --> 00:29:26,060
But, you know, we're living in
a different world now, aren't we?
561
00:29:26,060 --> 00:29:28,420
How much would it cost
for these ships
562
00:29:28,420 --> 00:29:31,340
to deal with their waste
in a responsible way?
563
00:29:31,340 --> 00:29:36,020
Royal Caribbean was caught
discharging oily bilge overboard.
564
00:29:36,020 --> 00:29:39,300
The chief engineers were asked,
"Well, why were they doing it?"
565
00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:43,260
And they said, "Well, we could save
$80,000 a year per ship
566
00:29:43,260 --> 00:29:47,260
"by not using the screens
that would filter out the oil."
567
00:29:47,260 --> 00:29:51,100
So, imagine all of the other
savings that can be found,
568
00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:55,980
by either mishandling or otherwise
not treating waste in the most...
569
00:29:57,380 --> 00:30:00,180
..environmentally
responsible manner.
570
00:30:00,180 --> 00:30:02,860
Cruise Lines
International Association
571
00:30:02,860 --> 00:30:06,260
say that some cruise ships
repurpose 100% of the waste
572
00:30:06,260 --> 00:30:10,060
generated onboard by reducing,
reusing, donating,
573
00:30:10,060 --> 00:30:13,420
recycling and converting waste
into energy.
574
00:30:13,420 --> 00:30:16,500
Cruise ships recycle 60% more waste
per person
575
00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:19,900
than the average person
recycles onshore each day.
576
00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:22,860
But what do the passengers think
when cruise ships are caught out
577
00:30:22,860 --> 00:30:24,580
for behaving badly?
578
00:30:24,580 --> 00:30:26,260
It wouldn't put me off cruising.
579
00:30:26,260 --> 00:30:27,740
Nothing will.
580
00:30:27,740 --> 00:30:30,340
However, if I did find a cruise
ship had done something,
581
00:30:30,340 --> 00:30:33,580
I might look at the cruise
line itself,
582
00:30:33,580 --> 00:30:36,660
rather than just the whole industry.
583
00:30:36,660 --> 00:30:40,660
Remarkably, it took a whistle-blower
to catch out Carnival,
584
00:30:40,660 --> 00:30:43,140
and not an industry watchdog.
585
00:30:43,140 --> 00:30:46,620
Some of the flagship states that
cruise companies operate under
586
00:30:46,620 --> 00:30:51,020
don't require reports on wrongdoing
like environmental incidents,
587
00:30:51,020 --> 00:30:53,820
safety issues, accidents
and even crimes.
588
00:30:55,660 --> 00:30:58,660
Just take a look at this -
OK, illness outbreak,
589
00:30:58,660 --> 00:31:02,540
what have we got here?
Fuel spill, then a fire.
590
00:31:02,540 --> 00:31:04,900
Here, a fine for polluting.
591
00:31:06,020 --> 00:31:09,660
And here, a crew member falls
overboard and drowns.
592
00:31:11,220 --> 00:31:13,300
And the really terrible thing is,
593
00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:16,820
is that this list hasn't
been compiled by the cruise lines,
594
00:31:16,820 --> 00:31:20,540
but it's the work
of a single man, Ross Klein.
595
00:31:20,540 --> 00:31:24,500
Over the last 30 years, Ross Klein
has been compiling a database
596
00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:28,100
of incidents that's been used
as a reference in Senate hearings,
597
00:31:28,100 --> 00:31:31,540
criminal cases
and environmental campaigns.
598
00:31:31,540 --> 00:31:34,740
When I first started doing my
research, I became interested in,
599
00:31:34,740 --> 00:31:37,980
"Well, how many times do ships
collide, do ships catch on fire?"
600
00:31:37,980 --> 00:31:40,460
The industry, they don't keep
track of those things.
601
00:31:40,460 --> 00:31:43,140
If you go in and look at past
incidents,
602
00:31:43,140 --> 00:31:46,940
you then have patterns
that create a foreseeability.
603
00:31:46,940 --> 00:31:49,220
And if you have foreseeability,
there's liability,
604
00:31:49,220 --> 00:31:50,700
and that's what they're afraid of.
605
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:52,980
The other part is that having
accidents
606
00:31:52,980 --> 00:31:54,540
doesn't make them look good.
607
00:31:54,540 --> 00:31:57,740
So they want to, if possible,
minimise these incidents
608
00:31:57,740 --> 00:32:00,100
or make them
as invisible as possible.
609
00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:03,220
According to the data that he's
collected over the last 30 years,
610
00:32:03,220 --> 00:32:07,540
95% of issues that passengers
face won't be life threatening.
611
00:32:07,540 --> 00:32:09,660
But keeping a lid on these incidents
612
00:32:09,660 --> 00:32:12,780
certainly keeps the cruise
industry looking good.
613
00:32:12,780 --> 00:32:15,620
But what about when a ship sinks?
614
00:32:15,620 --> 00:32:17,980
When I saw Costa Concordia
accident on the news,
615
00:32:17,980 --> 00:32:20,340
I think it was just total shock.
616
00:32:20,340 --> 00:32:23,220
Tend to feel that it couldn't happen
or shouldn't happen.
617
00:32:23,220 --> 00:32:25,780
So, actually,
it was quite frightening.
618
00:32:25,780 --> 00:32:29,180
There's always this feeling of
"there but for the grace of God".
619
00:32:29,180 --> 00:32:32,100
Costa Concordia shocked the world.
620
00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:35,340
The £317 million ship struck a rock,
621
00:32:35,340 --> 00:32:38,820
resulting in the death
of 32 passengers and crew.
622
00:32:38,820 --> 00:32:42,100
I had friends on board.
623
00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:45,380
It was very sad, it's shocking.
624
00:32:45,380 --> 00:32:47,860
I think the Costa Concordia was
really a one-off,
625
00:32:47,860 --> 00:32:49,420
and you'd have to think that,
626
00:32:49,420 --> 00:32:51,460
otherwise none of us
would go cruising.
627
00:32:51,460 --> 00:32:55,020
And we move on, and that's certainly
what some of the crew members
628
00:32:55,020 --> 00:32:57,380
and the entertainers that I knew
on board have done.
629
00:32:57,380 --> 00:33:00,540
They've moved on and are
still cruising... Still cruising.
630
00:33:01,940 --> 00:33:04,980
But whether it's workers' rights,
environmental issues
631
00:33:04,980 --> 00:33:06,300
or health and safety,
632
00:33:06,300 --> 00:33:09,740
nothing seems to have dampened our
appetite for cruising.
633
00:33:09,740 --> 00:33:12,940
In fact, the cruise operators
have shrugged off disasters
634
00:33:12,940 --> 00:33:14,540
and PR nightmares so well
635
00:33:14,540 --> 00:33:19,540
that the industry has maintained
its growth of 7% year after year,
636
00:33:19,540 --> 00:33:24,060
enticing ten million new passengers
to cruise in the last ten years -
637
00:33:24,060 --> 00:33:26,300
and more passengers
mean more ships.
638
00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:32,300
Take a look at this...
It's the order book for new ships.
639
00:33:32,300 --> 00:33:36,540
There are billions and billions
of pounds worth of ships on there.
640
00:33:37,620 --> 00:33:41,940
Around 150 ships have been ordered
over the next seven years.
641
00:33:41,940 --> 00:33:44,300
That is incredible.
642
00:33:44,300 --> 00:33:47,540
Last year before the pandemic,
around 30 million people
643
00:33:47,540 --> 00:33:49,380
hopped aboard a cruise ship,
644
00:33:49,380 --> 00:33:52,060
and, for the operators, there was
only one way forward...
645
00:33:52,060 --> 00:33:53,900
..expansion.
646
00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:56,700
What were projections like
for the cruise industry?
647
00:33:57,860 --> 00:34:00,220
Well, they were pretty strong.
648
00:34:00,220 --> 00:34:05,340
They'd added ten million
between 2000 and 2010,
649
00:34:05,340 --> 00:34:10,540
and they'd added another ten million
between 2010 and 2020.
650
00:34:10,540 --> 00:34:14,500
And it seems very ambitious,
and they expected to do that.
651
00:34:14,500 --> 00:34:17,940
But no analysts, no cruise captain
and none of the operators
652
00:34:17,940 --> 00:34:20,420
saw what was on the horizon.
653
00:34:20,420 --> 00:34:23,380
Coming up, we look at the
devastating effect the pandemic
654
00:34:23,380 --> 00:34:25,660
has had on the cruise industry.
655
00:34:25,660 --> 00:34:27,260
It's been a train wreck.
656
00:34:27,260 --> 00:34:30,740
It's etched in my mind,
it really was a huge blow.
657
00:34:30,740 --> 00:34:33,100
I haven't worked since March.
658
00:34:33,100 --> 00:34:37,900
Annual profit of $1.9 billion
for Royal Caribbean in 2019.
659
00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:42,580
I mean, that's turned into an annual
loss of about a billion.
660
00:34:42,580 --> 00:34:44,500
But where does it go from here?
661
00:34:45,940 --> 00:34:48,660
Well, the future
is going to be dicey.
662
00:34:48,660 --> 00:34:52,340
Is there a chance that the cruise
industry could...
663
00:34:52,340 --> 00:34:54,300
..go bust entirely?
664
00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:57,620
Well, I must admit, there were
times when I thought that.
665
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,520
We Brits love a cruise.
666
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,400
Last year, two million of us hopped
667
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,480
aboard a cruise ship,
spending almost £3 billion.
668
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:23,320
In the UK alone, an estimated 80,000
people rely directly or indirectly
669
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,560
on the cruise industry for their
livelihoods.
670
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:31,240
So when Covid hit, the impact was
unimaginable.
671
00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:32,880
In February this year,
672
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,320
images of the Diamond Princess
quarantined in Japan with 3,700
673
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,880
people on board shocked the world.
674
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,640
This was the beginning of a crisis
that crippled the cruise industry.
675
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,000
And for thousands of crew stranded
on ships when the pandemic
676
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,080
first hit, it was like being on
a floating prison.
677
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,840
Nick and Kanner found themselves
stuck on a ship that was quarantined
678
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,640
outside of Miami.
679
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:01,320
We were in a crew cabin, first.
So, crew cabins, no windows,
680
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:06,760
the majority of them. Bunk beds,
quite small, very small, you know.
681
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,160
As the extension of the quarantine
was put in place,
682
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,840
we actually moved up to guest
cabins, which was, you know,
683
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,240
fortunate for us, but not every crew
member actually got to do that.
684
00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:19,720
Some crew members had to spend
15 days in a crew cabin with no
685
00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:23,360
windows... Yeah. ..no fresh air...
No fresh air, no sunlight.
686
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,200
And you can't leave the cabin?
687
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,600
So how long in total were you in
quarantine for?
688
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:34,800
We were stuck on a ship for...
70 days? Yeah, about 70 days.
689
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,040
And according to the International
Maritime Organisation,
690
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,840
even now, there are still workers
on board cruise ships
691
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,360
unable to get home.
692
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,920
Imagine you're being stuck
in your office
693
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,840
for more than one year.
694
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,360
You cannot go home to be
with your family.
695
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,800
Imagine the suffering, the pain.
696
00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:02,600
We are seeing an increase of cases
where my colleagues in the help line
697
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,840
will provide emotional support
and counselling.
698
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,400
So I think this is just the tip
of the iceberg.
699
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:16,320
It's being described
as a humanitarian crisis.
700
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:23,200
And sea farers have become
collateral victims of this pandemic.
701
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,600
And for those that rely on
the cruise industry on land
702
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,520
in the UK, the effect on jobs
and everyday life
703
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,800
has been catastrophic.
704
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,160
How did it affect you?
705
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,320
It's been a train wreck.
It literally turn the taps off
706
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,640
on the cruise ships,
trying to cancel cruises,
707
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,840
send people back home.
708
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,400
If you're a travel agent and you
legally have to get them back,
709
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,200
so you have to pay for the cost
of the flights.
710
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,640
It's cost me an absolute fortune.
711
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,760
I've been working in the travel
industry for 25 years,
712
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,800
really until Covid hit.
713
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,520
And at that point, my heart
was utterly broken because that saw
714
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:06,280
the end of my travel career
and my cruising career as well.
715
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,080
All of a sudden, Boris said,
"No more going anywhere.
716
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,600
"Corona is here, let's lock down."
717
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,320
And so I haven't been anywhere
since March.
718
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,280
I haven't cruised since March.
719
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,800
I haven't worked since March.
720
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,600
I'm working 100 hours a week doing
different things, delivering food,
721
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,960
delivering furniture,
doing house removals.
722
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,920
It's one of those moments
that I will remember forever.
723
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,480
It's etched in my mind.
724
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:36,560
It really was a huge blow,
very devastating and actually
725
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,920
something that I haven't got over
726
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,920
and possibly won't
for many years to come.
727
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,440
And the shutdown of the cruise
industry has had a global impact.
728
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,600
Communities that rely on tourism
brought in by the ships
729
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,400
have been floored by the pandemic.
730
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,720
What's the human cost of
the pandemic
731
00:38:55,720 --> 00:38:57,600
within the cruise industry?
732
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,040
A lot of the crew support
their families with jobs
733
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,520
that they have on the ships.
734
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,000
So even a year off is going to make
a big difference to them.
735
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:10,840
But the real cost is in the
destinations which the ships go to.
736
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:15,960
It's the retail, it's the guides,
it's, you know, the shops.
737
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,040
You know, if you're Egyptian, you
know, living on the poverty line
738
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,840
when the ship comes in, it's how
they live there in Asia and the
739
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,400
Indian subcontinent where the ships
are being going in for years.
740
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,760
And there are businesses and people
there and families
741
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,560
there that depend on it,
and it's gone.
742
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,040
So knowing that there's
all these people who should
743
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,560
have been working on a cruise ship
and now, maybe, they'll be
744
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,320
struggling with their families,
that part breaks my heart.
745
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,600
And there's no guarantee the cruise
ships will be coming back
746
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,960
in the same way.
747
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:51,800
Meanwhile, there are 150 ships
worth £60 billion on order
748
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,600
over the next seven years.
749
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:58,000
It's a monumental amount of debt and
it's leveraged against the income
750
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,720
from 30 million passengers
that simply aren't there.
751
00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:05,160
Owning a cruise ship is a bit like
owning a taxi.
752
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,440
The moment the taxi's in the garage,
it's not making the owner
753
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:09,920
any money.
754
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,800
Only for cruise lines, the overheads
are astronomical,
755
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:18,200
in fact, just having a cruise ship
in dock in Southampton can cost
756
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:23,080
£50,000 a day, which is why
so-called ghost ships now sit
757
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,200
off the coast waiting
for the pandemic to pass.
758
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,600
But even being anchored
up is a costly business.
759
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,560
A cruise ship needs to stay steady
on the sea, so the engines
760
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,880
need to keep running and the crew
maintain the ship ready
761
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,280
for if and when passengers
come on board,
762
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,160
and none of this comes cheap.
763
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:48,240
Carnival alone is reportedly burning
through $650 million US dollars
764
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:51,080
a month while its ships sit idle.
765
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:57,520
Just how devastating has Covid
been for the cruise ship industry?
766
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,880
We've talked about, you know,
annual profit of $1.9 billion
767
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,520
for Royal Caribbean in 2019.
768
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:11,120
That's turned into an annual loss of
about a billion because of Covid.
769
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,440
The ships aren't moving. Between
Royal Caribbean, Carnival and
770
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,640
Norwegian, they're haemorrhaging
$1 billion a month.
771
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,360
In an attempt to stay afloat
financially, cruise lines
772
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,880
are retiring ships from service
earlier than planned, scrapping
773
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,200
ships before that time and finding
any way they can to cut
774
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,600
down on their operational costs.
775
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,440
But without the ability to take
passengers, some operators have gone
776
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,840
bust, while others are on the brink
of bankruptcy.
777
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,320
So, what does the future hold
for the cruise industry?
778
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,720
Well, the future is going
to be dicey.
779
00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:49,600
Largely because they can't offer the
cruise product that they've always
780
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,200
offered under the old business model
and still make money.
781
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,960
So I think in the next year,
year and a half,
782
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,600
it's going to be a real question
of, number one, whether a cruise
783
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,440
is safe, but also, what is
a cruise going to be?
784
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,280
When you go ashore, are you going
to be stuck in a bubble?
785
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,880
Given their past arrogance,
and given their need
786
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,240
to make profit through
onboard spending,
787
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:14,160
how they're going to do that
effectively and have a product
788
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,280
that the consumer is going
to be happy consuming.
789
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,920
Is there a chance that the cruise
industry could...
790
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,640
..go bust entirely?
791
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,760
Well, I must admit, there
were times when I thought
792
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,040
that during the course of the year,
when we could see no end to it.
793
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,560
Erm... I don't think so now.
794
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:38,520
I think if the vaccine is what
we hope it's going to be...
795
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,680
I think there will be enough there
for them to come back.
796
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,080
But, of course, some cruise lines
have gone bust.
797
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,120
They hadn't the resources
to hang on.
798
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,320
The big companies were very
well resourced,
799
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,160
have been able to raise the money.
800
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,160
Erm, had enough friends
out there who believe
801
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:00,480
that they will come back for them
to enable them to do that.
802
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,920
And I think they will.
803
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,840
With 30 million people
a year cruising,
804
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,200
I'm very, very confident
they'll come back.
805
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,240
So you don't expect there
to be some kind of Covid legacy
806
00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:15,960
after all of this, you know, a fear
of, you know, cruise ships
807
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,240
for being a hotbed for virus?
808
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:19,720
Absolutely not.
809
00:43:19,720 --> 00:43:22,520
If you see some of those things
are being talked about now in terms
810
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,880
of protection for the passengers,
everybody being tested
811
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:29,200
before they board and crew
being tested regularly,
812
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,720
social distancing ideas.
813
00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:33,640
Social distancing measures
on a cruise ship?
814
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,240
That's surely going to hit
their bottom line?
815
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:40,760
Absolutely it will, they need about
50% of the passengers on board
816
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,400
to break even.
817
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,880
The Royal Caribbean have said that
these big Oasis class ships
818
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,640
can break even at 30%.
819
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,280
If we can just break even
in 2021, that will be fine,
820
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,360
everybody will be happy and
we'll get back to normal
821
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,720
in 2022, I believe.
822
00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:59,440
Operators like Royal Caribbean
are already offering
823
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,120
scaled-back cruises in and out of
the same port with no stop-offs,
824
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,680
to test their Covid protocols.
825
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,240
When cruising does start up full
operations again, you can expect
826
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:12,520
face masks and Covid tests
for everyone on board.
827
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,200
Much stricter rules
when you go ashore.
828
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,600
And it's bye-bye to the buffet
and hello, plated dining.
829
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,160
With all the protocols they're
putting in place,
830
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,520
all the cleaning, all the testing
which will be in place
831
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,040
before you get on there, I believe
it will be the safest place
832
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,240
that you could actually be.
833
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,840
Oh, this is so much fun,
the surfing simulator.
834
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,320
I'm definitely type of the type
of person to see how everybody else
835
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,680
does before I will jump on board.
836
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,520
So I probably won't be the first,
but I know I won't be the last
837
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,520
to get back on a cruise ship.
838
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,880
The pandemic hasn't changed
the way I feel about cruising.
839
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,680
If somebody called me today
and said, "There's a cruise,
840
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,680
"fly this afternoon," I would go.
841
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,040
I would definitely go, 1,000%.
842
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,960
I would happily accept the protocols
and what I needed to do to keep
843
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,360
myself and other passengers safe.
844
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,880
I just miss it so much and I cannot
wait to get the opportunity
845
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,760
to go back on a cruise again.
846
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,760
I think that the health and safety
of everybody on board,
847
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,280
crew and passengers will be
at highest level.
848
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,320
It certainly hasn't put me off.
849
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,840
I'll be happy to go on a cruise.
850
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,880
My first one is booked for April.
851
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,240
Fingers crossed,
I'm getting on board.
852
00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:24,200
It's been too long.
853
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,400
I haven't gone this long without
a cruise for 20, 30 years.
854
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,040
So we're obviously a little sad
that we're not going cruising.
855
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,320
And in fact, we should be cruising
as of tomorrow,
856
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,680
flying out today to Athens.
857
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,960
But fortunately, we have
a narrow boat...
858
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,160
..and, well, I'm Hazel's butler...
859
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,760
..and the deckhand.
860
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,080
Hazel is the hotel manager and...
861
00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:51,400
..entertainment and, of course,
the captain.
862
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,800
So we've got it sorted.
863
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,880
There are still so many unanswered
questions about the future
864
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,160
of the cruise lines,
that it's anyone's guess
865
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,120
how and when they'll start up again.
866
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,160
But one thing is for certain...
867
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,720
..there is a legion of cruise lovers
that can't wait
868
00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:12,360
to get back on board when and if
the ships start cruising again.
869
00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:16,440
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