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in today's session,
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I talked to VJ and video artist Holly Danger about her practice,
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how she creates work in the United States of America,
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how she uses mad lapper.
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She's got some great tips and tricks for you on.
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We look at her work and we look at how she creates what she creates.
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Let's have a quick look,
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Holly's promo and then we'll jump straight into the interview.
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There
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we are high.
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Oh,
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doing all right.
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I'm glad that our time I think it was able to sync up here.
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Yeah,
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absolutely.
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I did have a mild panic.
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I had a power cook today and knocked all of my into out.
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So when you message me,
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I was frantically kind of turning the route around enough.
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Now I understand.
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I actually we do a livestream show out of my gallery space here every couple of every few
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days.
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And last night that the Internet was completely down.
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We had to cancel the show,
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and it was just like,
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Oh,
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God,
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I saw I still got a workout.
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It's it's better today.
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But it was just so slow that we couldn't get it up and running.
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You know,
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we're using like,
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be yes,
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to do like a full production.
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And it was just not having it last night.
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Oh,
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yeah?
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Well,
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I mean,
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his clippers is We can get with technology.
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We're still at the behest of the five,
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the cables and so on.
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I know it is.
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It's so frustrating.
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Uh,
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yeah.
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So thank you for joining me today.
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I'm excited to chat with you.
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Oh,
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no,
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me too.
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I was I was so kind of overwhelmed when people start message in some I'm really pleased.
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So,
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um,
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I guess and so I I know a little bit about you because I've been internet stalking you
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today.
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Gonna put on your website.
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And so,
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um,
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but could you tell me,
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could you tell?
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Tell us a little bit about kind of what you do on why you do it?
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Sure.
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Um So my name is Holly Danger.
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I'm a video artists and a live performance VJ.
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Um and ah,
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gosh,
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I've been doing I've been teaching for a little over 12 years at this point,
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and I would say a kind of a video artist for about 20 years.
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All of them.
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I have a background in Ah,
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just traditional video production postproduction.
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I've been a video editor,
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started as a graphic designer,
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developed into a being a motion graphic designer.
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you know,
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but having those jobs,
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you kind of always are somebody who sits in a dark edit room by yourself,
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and it's very isolated type of position.
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um,
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you know,
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that wasn't enough for me.
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And so I would I would leave my day job,
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you know,
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which is normally working in,
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like,
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advertising.
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Ah,
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or corporate video production.
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And I live about an hour outside of Manhattan,
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So I would drive down to New York City.
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I'm kind of like in the suburbs,
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so there's not a lot of,
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like art and culture and music around here,
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so I have to,
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like,
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go out of my way to find it.
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And so I would drive down in Manhattan like five nights a week in search of that kind of
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culture and inspiration.
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And in doing that,
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I came around,
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I came across,
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um,
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large scale installations at the MoMA,
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and I would go toe underground art parties where they're doing video projection,
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you know,
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VJ ing and all that stuff and I said,
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I kind of made that connection between,
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you know,
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the type of creative work that I was doing and the creative work that they were doing.
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And I just said,
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this is definitely the path that I need to go down,
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and so that kind of completely pivoted my life path.
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um,
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you know,
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but but for the last,
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for the last,
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like,
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12 years,
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I've been working in corporate video production and kind of keeping my art life and video
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projection and all that kind of stuff on the side.
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Uh,
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not not actually thinking I could make a living doing this.
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Um,
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And then in the last year,
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I kind of had a change of heart.
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And I said,
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You know what?
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You only have one life,
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and I completely fell in love with the the medium of projection are creating installations
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and live performance that,
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um I quipped day of and for the last well over a year now,
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I'm full time video artist,
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um,
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where I create Ah,
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immersive installations and I perform ah,
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audio visual shows.
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I have Ah,
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I'm actually sitting in the danger gallery right now,
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which is an immersive,
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um,
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art space I created out here in the suburbs where,
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like I said,
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this type of work doesn't exist around here,
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and I wanted to bring it to this community.
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And so I've been full,
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full force doing this now for about a year,
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but,
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you know,
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and now covered change the game again Now,
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Charlie.
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Right.
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So,
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you know,
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you were always constantly pivoting,
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but that's just like a short,
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short history.
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So you have your you have your digital practice.
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But you also have gallery as well.
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Yes,
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I dio Yes.
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Um,
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and it started.
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Sorry,
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my phone keeps ringing.
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Let me just turn it off.
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Um so So I do have my tradition.
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My at my own practice.
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and I have my I have this gallery here.
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It started out as a little bit more of a traditional gallery where I was bringing in local
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artists.
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um,
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and then I kind of realized like I really wanted to focus on my own work for a while,
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and so,
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I've just kind of been using the space as,
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like,
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a showcase room to kind of educate people around here.
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How they can use projection.
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you know,
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whether it's an immersive environment or,
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you know,
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backdrop for a concert or ah,
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drive in theater or something like that.
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I've just kind of been using the space to kind of create my own work documented and share
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it into the universe.
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And that's kind of how I've been able to develop a business.
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That's amazing.
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That is amazing.
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So in terms of,
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in terms of of your projection,
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map it then.
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So what kind of stuff do you map?
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Mostly,
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I would say,
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mostly room installations.
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That's kind of been something I've been very excited about.
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Ah,
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something that kind of I've really enjoyed creating,
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kind of like sanctuary spaces,
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spaces that feel very meditative,
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spaces that kind of just completely envelope you in all of the senses.
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we're even just like the scent in the air has like it,
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you know,
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a texture to it or,
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you know,
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something that just evokes some sort of emotion.
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um and so the mapping that I'm doing mostly is is in my gallery space here.
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And then as I get hired,
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I'll be mapping projection walls like,
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um sorry.
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Like street like out out in the street.
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I'll do like street murals.
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pretty much I mean anywhere.
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a lot of gala events will hire me,
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you know?
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And they'll say,
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we've got this wall over here.
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What can you do with it?
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you know,
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and what's so wonderful about mapping is that,
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you know,
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you can really just kind of put it anywhere and just develop.
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You know what?
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How you want to transform the space?
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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And so what kit do you use when you're method?
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So I'm using Mad mapper primarily.
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um,
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I actually use it in tandem with my VJ software.
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I used v DMX,
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and,
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I've actually found that mad mapper,
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especially if you have,
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like,
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really large files ago.
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If I'm doing a full room,
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um,
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sometimes I'll actually,
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instead of breaking it up in Madame Apple,
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have,
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like,
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one huge template.
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if that makes any sense,
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and it's all actually run it through v.
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DMX because I've had trouble with audio issues going directly into mad mappers.
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But if you if you play it through video mix,
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that's actually fixed on my problems Really?
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I also have have had audio issues with mad matter,
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right?
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So I don't know why that works,
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but it does.
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And it has completely saved me in terms of ah being,
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you know,
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having public installations.
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I had I had one where I played everything through Mad mapper directly and the music kept
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skipping like every I may be the file was to hear,
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you know,
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I I compressed it to 1/2 Kodak,
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which is what you're supposed to do.
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Ah,
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you know,
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supposed to run more smoothly.
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Um,
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but yeah,
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I kept getting a skip,
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and I was like,
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I felt like I had apologized to people come into the room and they're like,
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we don't even hear what you're talking about,
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you know?
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But it drove me.
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It drove me nuts.
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And then I talked to other video artist friends,
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and they were they were,
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like,
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Try it,
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try it through your VJ software and that that solved the problem.
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Wow,
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I will.
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I'm actually gonna try that.
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Actually,
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I'm gonna do some testing this weekend.
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Summer tried.
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So?
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So I also used MADD rapper on because I've designed is like a beginner's guide to mad
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mapper.
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So what are your top tips from mad?
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Oh,
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my goodness.
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Top tips or mad mapper I G's.
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I don't know if I have any.
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I'm still like I've actually been using bad mapper for about three years,
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but I still feel like I've only kind of cracked the basics of it.
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Um,
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I feel like if I gave any advice,
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it would really be too.
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You know,
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anyone can learn software,
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but I would say to really focus on the content and,
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you know,
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like my main business is working in after effects developing the content,
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developing the designs.
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And I feel like that's where I would I would tell most people to focus their energies.
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Um,
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because you can always you can always use the software and,
331
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you know,
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it is it's pretty easy once you start using it.
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Um,
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you know,
335
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So I I honestly,
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I feel like the biggest advice I could say is get really messy with using after effects,
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you know,
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and also to make a ton more work than you would ever expect.
339
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I started a daily practice last year,
340
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uh,
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putting work up on instagram.
342
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I called it garbage art.
343
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And what I would do is I would make a,
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um,
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give myself 30 minutes to make 30 seconds of animation.
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Ah,
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and I would post daily whether I liked it or not,
348
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which is really difficult thing to do,
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especially as someone as someone who considers himself an artist,
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you're like,
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OK,
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I only want to put things out that are beautiful,
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that I feel like my high standards.
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But I got into this habit of just doing it every day and putting it out there and a lot of
355
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the work that I didn't think I liked.
356
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Once I projected it in the room,
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it became something completely different,
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and I looked at it in a different way,
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and it became installations that I was able to use in later work.
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So,
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yeah,
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if I want to say anything,
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I I wish I had tips for mad mapper.
364
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I don't think I really do.
365
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I really think it's about put your energy into the work because that that's what's going to
366
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speak.
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But you know,
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the most.
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I absolutely agree with you don't I mean mad map is so powerful and like you,
370
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I've been using it for about three years,
371
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actually,
372
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and I still feel like I'm just scratching the surface of me.
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Absolutely,
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I'll be I'll be in.
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My assets are being in a cult summer and all right,
376
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click and I go.
377
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What's this?
378
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Where did that could probably?
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Um right,
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Yeah,
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it's interesting,
382
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but no,
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I completely agree with you like it's got some great kind of stock assets building,
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but at a job,
385
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and that's good for learning and play in absolutely kind of develop your own assets.
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Use those kind of after effects or resolve or trip or whatever is Teoh because that was
387
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really kind of started to bring your artwork to life.
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And I will.
389
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I've also found that as well,
390
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kind of.
391
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When I'm when I'm designing stuff to project,
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I always have to recheck.
393
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When I put on the surface,
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I go,
395
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Oh,
396
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I need to adjust the contrast.
397
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Yes,
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yes,
399
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and it's definitely learning curve all the different types of places that you could put it
400
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,
401
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Actually.
402
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For example,
403
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I just did a event over the weekend,
404
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was my first live in person event since since opens up for the like three months.
405
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Um,
406
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but the Ah,
407
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the location of my projection got changed last minute and all of a sudden I was on the side
408
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of a barn that,
409
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like,
410
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half of the barn was brown.
411
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Half of the barn was red,
412
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you know,
413
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and then and people are just like,
414
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Oh,
415
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yeah,
416
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just do your projection over there,
417
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But they don't realize how much that changes things.
418
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And then I wasn't.
419
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I wasn't in control of the equipment they had hired somebody else to get the equipment so
420
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that when you don't have control over that,
421
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then you know it's an under powered projector and,
422
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you know,
423
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and you know,
424
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so absorbing the color,
425
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right?
426
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And some of the end of the day,
427
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I was just like,
428
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Oh,
429
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this could have been so much better But most people don't know that,
430
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So I feel like there I'm so glad that you're doing these video,
431
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of course,
432
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is because we need to talk about these things.
433
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We need to have a community,
434
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and we need to educate on all the different There's so many little deep tales that we need
435
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to think about.
436
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Yeah,
437
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absolutely.
438
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And,
439
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you know,
440
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I I stalled putting out for so long because I was so nervous ago.
441
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But I'm not an expert because I'm still learning.
442
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Yes,
443
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it was a friend of mine That just kind of you be talking about this for a year.
444
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Just play out in the world but will be will be on.
445
00:14:04,700 --> 00:14:09,810
I have to say I put it on that on the forum where we met on Facebook.
446
00:14:09,810 --> 00:14:11,650
Really kind of tentatively.
447
00:14:11,650 --> 00:14:13,500
And the response has been wonderful,
448
00:14:13,500 --> 00:14:15,780
like like like I've been having chats with people itself.
449
00:14:15,780 --> 00:14:16,100
But right now,
450
00:14:16,100 --> 00:14:18,260
this is great about everybody.
451
00:14:18,260 --> 00:14:19,810
Like we had our first everybody go.
452
00:14:19,810 --> 00:14:21,230
But I'm not really hardcore,
453
00:14:21,230 --> 00:14:24,650
because I I do this version and everybody said that to me.
454
00:14:24,650 --> 00:14:27,160
And I think that's really interested about about kind of what we do,
455
00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,650
because we all think somebody else's is more hardcore than we are.
456
00:14:30,650 --> 00:14:31,370
All right.
457
00:14:31,370 --> 00:14:33,160
That was actually my first reaction to you.
458
00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:33,520
I was like,
459
00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:33,650
Oh,
460
00:14:33,650 --> 00:14:35,160
I hope you're not looking for one of those guys.
461
00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,720
We're doing those enormous setups because I'm not doing that.
462
00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,580
I'm really using mad mapper for just the basics,
463
00:14:40,580 --> 00:14:40,800
you know,
464
00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:41,460
fitting it in,
465
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choose the space and then really caring about this story and the concept and the content
466
00:14:46,290 --> 00:14:46,540
and,
467
00:14:46,540 --> 00:14:46,690
you know,
468
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the visuals and and and and everything.
469
00:14:48,220 --> 00:14:51,410
We were just I'm really glad that you pointed that out.
470
00:14:51,410 --> 00:14:52,040
Yeah,
471
00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,070
I think it's a different man.
472
00:14:53,070 --> 00:14:55,940
Like we have this check before by my come from a film background.
473
00:14:55,940 --> 00:14:56,750
So for me,
474
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I use a lot of tobacco,
475
00:14:58,090 --> 00:15:02,920
and I actually I actually come from a dance background originally and then second film.
476
00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,070
So I do a lot of installations with dances.
477
00:15:05,070 --> 00:15:09,430
I use it kind of so I'll might films a movement in another space and then that gets
478
00:15:09,430 --> 00:15:10,790
projected within a show.
479
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Are it becomes interactive with with life content?
480
00:15:13,450 --> 00:15:14,410
Yeah.
481
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So,
482
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one week I might be doing that in the next week.
483
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Um,
484
00:15:16,550 --> 00:15:19,280
I be digital billboard in somewhere and,
485
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you know,
486
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and the realities of the world is sometimes I'm stood out in the rain for three hours going
487
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like this,
488
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Right?
489
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Right.
490
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Oh,
491
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my gosh.
492
00:15:30,850 --> 00:15:31,410
Well,
493
00:15:31,410 --> 00:15:35,570
it's funny you say dancers to because I've gotten a couple of calls in the last.
494
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Probably like over the last few months of more and more dancers that want to work with me.
495
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I haven't done any of the interactive stuff yet.
496
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I think that's kind of on my,
497
00:15:42,820 --> 00:15:43,250
you know,
498
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next to learn.
499
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So you want to put out another course about interactivity,
500
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touch designer and stuff like that?
501
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You let me know.
502
00:15:50,340 --> 00:15:50,780
Yeah,
503
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well,
504
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I'm literally learning pictures under at the moment,
505
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actually.
506
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And I spoke.
507
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Teoh guy called Jess Spell in the form.
508
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Who uses church designer just in Jasper in Australia,
509
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You know,
510
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just in.
511
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And Amsterdam Jaspers,
512
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Jaspers.
513
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Not so common names s.
514
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So I just assumed that,
515
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you know?
516
00:16:09,820 --> 00:16:10,000
Well,
517
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6000.
518
00:16:10,650 --> 00:16:11,690
Well,
519
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I mean,
520
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you know,
521
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I've been around for for over a decade in that community,
522
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so I do know a lot of these names,
523
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but that when I interviewed,
524
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yes,
525
00:16:19,650 --> 00:16:20,880
but who was It was very,
526
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very,
527
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very lovely like yourself.
528
00:16:22,470 --> 00:16:23,850
A very kind of open to sharing,
529
00:16:23,850 --> 00:16:25,440
but his cell behind him.
530
00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:26,060
I was just trying.
531
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This is insane.
532
00:16:27,310 --> 00:16:29,350
That so is insane.
533
00:16:29,350 --> 00:16:30,380
What is it?
534
00:16:30,380 --> 00:16:30,550
Oh,
535
00:16:30,550 --> 00:16:30,690
yeah,
536
00:16:30,690 --> 00:16:30,860
I know.
537
00:16:30,860 --> 00:16:31,750
It's just might settle.
538
00:16:31,750 --> 00:16:34,380
Org is okay.
539
00:16:34,380 --> 00:16:36,550
I have two projectors.
540
00:16:36,550 --> 00:16:37,290
Ah,
541
00:16:37,290 --> 00:16:39,600
a laptop software.
542
00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:40,300
Sure.
543
00:16:40,300 --> 00:16:40,530
Sure.
544
00:16:40,530 --> 00:16:40,750
Sure.
545
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Yeah.
546
00:16:41,050 --> 00:16:45,720
I have personally spent all of my paychecks over the years on on equipment.
547
00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:45,940
I have,
548
00:16:45,940 --> 00:16:46,310
like,
549
00:16:46,310 --> 00:16:50,020
I think I have six old projectors in my storage unit answers.
550
00:16:50,020 --> 00:16:51,730
But they're all four by three.
551
00:16:51,730 --> 00:16:51,890
And,
552
00:16:51,890 --> 00:16:52,080
like,
553
00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:53,410
really old resolution.
554
00:16:53,410 --> 00:16:53,590
Like,
555
00:16:53,590 --> 00:16:54,700
what do I do with these things?
556
00:16:54,700 --> 00:16:57,460
Do I Do I make some old retro insulation and,
557
00:16:57,460 --> 00:16:57,620
like,
558
00:16:57,620 --> 00:16:58,780
just use all of them?
559
00:16:58,780 --> 00:17:02,170
Or do I scrapped the mall and buy new laser projector?
560
00:17:02,170 --> 00:17:02,560
Chris?
561
00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:03,310
Yeah,
562
00:17:03,310 --> 00:17:03,960
absolutely.
563
00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,910
Just Daisy chained together in a tower.
564
00:17:05,910 --> 00:17:06,540
Right,
565
00:17:06,540 --> 00:17:06,740
Right,
566
00:17:06,740 --> 00:17:06,990
right.
567
00:17:06,990 --> 00:17:07,610
So I don't know.
568
00:17:07,610 --> 00:17:09,760
I keep I keep that stuff around cause you're like,
569
00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:10,980
maybe I'll use it one day,
570
00:17:10,980 --> 00:17:13,310
But that's probably just a waste of space.
571
00:17:13,310 --> 00:17:13,610
No,
572
00:17:13,610 --> 00:17:14,310
I do the same.
573
00:17:14,310 --> 00:17:14,840
I do the same.
574
00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,560
I've got an 18 k projector,
575
00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,740
which will The minute is passing.
576
00:17:19,740 --> 00:17:21,760
It's just doing what it needs to do.
577
00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:22,840
But I'm looking at everybody.
578
00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,540
It's like this big.
579
00:17:24,540 --> 00:17:25,500
Yeah,
580
00:17:25,500 --> 00:17:26,090
heavy,
581
00:17:26,090 --> 00:17:26,680
right?
582
00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:27,090
Yeah.
583
00:17:27,090 --> 00:17:27,480
Yeah.
584
00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,110
I'm looking at the new ones that I'm lying,
585
00:17:29,110 --> 00:17:34,760
but I just can't quite justify especially really got operation.
586
00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,420
I would kill for an 18 k projector.
587
00:17:37,420 --> 00:17:37,950
You're kidding.
588
00:17:37,950 --> 00:17:38,800
Yeah.
589
00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:39,550
I mean,
590
00:17:39,550 --> 00:17:40,410
I share it with a friend.
591
00:17:40,410 --> 00:17:41,820
It's not my mind.
592
00:17:41,820 --> 00:17:43,630
Yeah,
593
00:17:43,630 --> 00:17:44,780
I think so.
594
00:17:44,780 --> 00:17:46,090
So,
595
00:17:46,090 --> 00:17:46,530
in terms,
596
00:17:46,530 --> 00:17:48,940
in terms of them kind of your mad,
597
00:17:48,940 --> 00:17:54,030
mocking journey do you use any of the other peripheral separate matter like the mini model
598
00:17:54,030 --> 00:17:54,030
,
599
00:17:54,030 --> 00:17:55,050
the model E D's.
600
00:17:55,050 --> 00:17:56,050
Oh,
601
00:17:56,050 --> 00:17:56,410
um,
602
00:17:56,410 --> 00:17:58,190
I did by the mini mad.
603
00:17:58,190 --> 00:18:01,090
I've used it for maybe two projects so far.
604
00:18:01,090 --> 00:18:03,520
I feel like I need more of them,
605
00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:03,710
right,
606
00:18:03,710 --> 00:18:05,210
because that's like one.
607
00:18:05,210 --> 00:18:07,010
And it's like one per projector,
608
00:18:07,010 --> 00:18:07,520
right?
609
00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:08,150
It's like,
610
00:18:08,150 --> 00:18:08,660
you know?
611
00:18:08,660 --> 00:18:09,310
Yeah.
612
00:18:09,310 --> 00:18:10,970
So I someone gave it to me as a gift.
613
00:18:10,970 --> 00:18:11,740
I used it,
614
00:18:11,740 --> 00:18:11,990
Yeah,
615
00:18:11,990 --> 00:18:13,020
used it once to set it,
616
00:18:13,020 --> 00:18:14,570
but I haven't really used it again,
617
00:18:14,570 --> 00:18:17,160
so I can't really say I think it's a great idea.
618
00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:18,660
I don't know why I'm not using it more.
619
00:18:18,660 --> 00:18:19,350
Well,
620
00:18:19,350 --> 00:18:20,030
I have the same.
621
00:18:20,030 --> 00:18:21,660
I absolutely drived one,
622
00:18:21,660 --> 00:18:28,210
and I brought on a win because I was doing I was doing an installation in ah Gallery on,
623
00:18:28,210 --> 00:18:29,870
but it was that is that one of the good?
624
00:18:29,870 --> 00:18:30,980
But there's no security that,
625
00:18:30,980 --> 00:18:34,430
but I can't leave a laptop there for exactly right side.
626
00:18:34,430 --> 00:18:35,760
But will how am I gonna get round it?
627
00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,070
It was a static installation,
628
00:18:37,070 --> 00:18:42,260
so I bought the mini mad and we did it and it was great and it works,
629
00:18:42,260 --> 00:18:43,540
and I've never used it since.
630
00:18:43,540 --> 00:18:45,940
So I do need to use it.
631
00:18:45,940 --> 00:18:47,130
It's a great idea.
632
00:18:47,130 --> 00:18:47,710
I agree with you.
633
00:18:47,710 --> 00:18:49,540
I don't want to leave my laptop out anywhere.
634
00:18:49,540 --> 00:18:54,300
But I guess you know a lot of the shows and gigs that I do are pretty much like one off
635
00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:57,550
shows like either I'm there with the equipment or,
636
00:18:57,550 --> 00:18:58,210
you know,
637
00:18:58,210 --> 00:18:59,900
it's just a few hours and we leave,
638
00:18:59,900 --> 00:19:00,180
you know?
639
00:19:00,180 --> 00:19:02,830
So I actually haven't had any long term projects.
640
00:19:02,830 --> 00:19:03,510
Um,
641
00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:04,770
and the ones that are in my gallery,
642
00:19:04,770 --> 00:19:07,720
everything's just set up and I'm I'm here and I do shows,
643
00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:08,300
You know,
644
00:19:08,300 --> 00:19:08,890
I'm hosting.
645
00:19:08,890 --> 00:19:12,510
I'm setting everything up I'm hosting and it's all my equipment that's just permanently
646
00:19:12,510 --> 00:19:13,350
installed here.
647
00:19:13,350 --> 00:19:14,370
Um,
648
00:19:14,370 --> 00:19:15,300
so it's interesting.
649
00:19:15,300 --> 00:19:16,110
I'm glad you brought it up,
650
00:19:16,110 --> 00:19:16,210
though.
651
00:19:16,210 --> 00:19:18,470
I feel like I should find ways to use it more.
652
00:19:18,470 --> 00:19:19,010
Well,
653
00:19:19,010 --> 00:19:19,670
I'm looking.
654
00:19:19,670 --> 00:19:27,920
I'm looking to get in them the mud led kit lighting kit because I've just started diving
655
00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,260
into light installation.
656
00:19:29,260 --> 00:19:30,700
So I did wrong,
657
00:19:30,700 --> 00:19:31,730
which is very simple,
658
00:19:31,730 --> 00:19:35,190
kind of DMX control turn lights on enough with dancers,
659
00:19:35,190 --> 00:19:36,930
and it was it was ridiculously simple,
660
00:19:36,930 --> 00:19:41,180
but it was so effective that I thought I might invest in this a little bit more in terms of
661
00:19:41,180 --> 00:19:41,970
on.
662
00:19:41,970 --> 00:19:42,650
That's what I love about.
663
00:19:42,650 --> 00:19:44,260
That's what I love about manufacturing.
664
00:19:44,260 --> 00:19:45,760
You could projection up,
665
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,520
but you can also designed light installations.
666
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:48,440
Yes,
667
00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:48,870
Yes,
668
00:19:48,870 --> 00:19:49,200
I did.
669
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,210
I did take one class on exactly what you're talking about.
670
00:19:52,210 --> 00:19:53,660
Because I was very lucky.
671
00:19:53,660 --> 00:19:55,290
I personally learned,
672
00:19:55,290 --> 00:19:59,340
Or at least I have traditionally learned more from people being present,
673
00:19:59,340 --> 00:19:59,690
you know,
674
00:19:59,690 --> 00:20:00,530
shared experience.
675
00:20:00,530 --> 00:20:01,990
Kind of versus the tutorial.
676
00:20:01,990 --> 00:20:04,300
Unless you find really good tutorials.
677
00:20:04,300 --> 00:20:06,510
Eso I'm excited to watch yours,
678
00:20:06,510 --> 00:20:07,630
but,
679
00:20:07,630 --> 00:20:11,160
um but but there's Ah,
680
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:11,860
there's Ah,
681
00:20:11,860 --> 00:20:13,190
there's this one place in New York City.
682
00:20:13,190 --> 00:20:13,860
I had mentioned it to you.
683
00:20:13,860 --> 00:20:15,030
It's called culture Hub,
684
00:20:15,030 --> 00:20:17,900
and they occasionally have all sorts of visiting artists in there.
685
00:20:17,900 --> 00:20:19,810
And there was one artist named Chica.
686
00:20:19,810 --> 00:20:21,070
You could probably check her out.
687
00:20:21,070 --> 00:20:25,060
I think she's part of those VJ union Facebook groups and stuff like that.
688
00:20:25,060 --> 00:20:25,490
But anyway,
689
00:20:25,490 --> 00:20:28,980
I learned a class I learned mad mapper from taking it from her.
690
00:20:28,980 --> 00:20:30,750
And then I came back,
691
00:20:30,750 --> 00:20:31,150
like,
692
00:20:31,150 --> 00:20:31,770
a few months later,
693
00:20:31,770 --> 00:20:33,440
and I took it from a lighting perspective.
694
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,320
I found that to be harder for me to wrap my brain around,
695
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:36,730
um,
696
00:20:36,730 --> 00:20:37,520
for stuff,
697
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:37,970
for some reason,
698
00:20:37,970 --> 00:20:39,850
maybe because I'm more of a visual.
699
00:20:39,850 --> 00:20:40,270
I don't know.
700
00:20:40,270 --> 00:20:41,830
I guess I've just been so deep,
701
00:20:41,830 --> 00:20:42,080
like,
702
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:42,620
enveloped in,
703
00:20:42,620 --> 00:20:42,890
like,
704
00:20:42,890 --> 00:20:44,200
content and visual,
705
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,950
like animation and things like that.
706
00:20:45,950 --> 00:20:48,500
That the lighting was just a very far out idea for me.
707
00:20:48,500 --> 00:20:49,260
But I enjoyed it.
708
00:20:49,260 --> 00:20:50,050
Yeah,
709
00:20:50,050 --> 00:20:50,300
no.
710
00:20:50,300 --> 00:20:50,700
Yes.
711
00:20:50,700 --> 00:20:51,610
Setting same for me.
712
00:20:51,610 --> 00:20:52,000
And I think,
713
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:52,290
really,
714
00:20:52,290 --> 00:20:52,560
for me,
715
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:57,160
it's it's doing these courses has really kind of re ignited my passion to learn more.
716
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,260
Yeah,
717
00:20:58,260 --> 00:21:01,200
so I think that that's kind of where my brains up.
718
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,010
So then what is the project?
719
00:21:04,010 --> 00:21:11,620
You're most passionate or proud off the one I the one I havent done yet whatever the next
720
00:21:11,620 --> 00:21:12,670
one is No.
721
00:21:12,670 --> 00:21:12,940
Okay,
722
00:21:12,940 --> 00:21:13,850
So,
723
00:21:13,850 --> 00:21:15,150
uh,
724
00:21:15,150 --> 00:21:16,850
because you know,
725
00:21:16,850 --> 00:21:17,710
it's funny,
726
00:21:17,710 --> 00:21:21,680
I latch onto these projects because they take so long to make and there's well,
727
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,650
so much trouble shooting that goes into things.
728
00:21:23,650 --> 00:21:23,760
And,
729
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:23,900
like,
730
00:21:23,900 --> 00:21:27,370
I just feel like people don't even realize how much it takes to produce these things.
731
00:21:27,370 --> 00:21:29,020
I'm I'm always like,
732
00:21:29,020 --> 00:21:29,420
you know,
733
00:21:29,420 --> 00:21:32,550
I feel like I go through something with each one and,
734
00:21:32,550 --> 00:21:32,890
ah,
735
00:21:32,890 --> 00:21:36,970
and and the one that I make like the each each one gets better than the next.
736
00:21:36,970 --> 00:21:37,270
I mean,
737
00:21:37,270 --> 00:21:39,430
as it's supposed to write um,
738
00:21:39,430 --> 00:21:42,050
but so the last one that I did was one of my favorites.
739
00:21:42,050 --> 00:21:42,580
Um,
740
00:21:42,580 --> 00:21:43,800
it's Ah,
741
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,090
room installation called lead and Let go.
742
00:21:46,090 --> 00:21:51,000
And I made it to be shown at in Miami.
743
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:51,350
Ah,
744
00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:53,810
during art Basel wasn't at the main our basil.
745
00:21:53,810 --> 00:21:54,460
It was in one of those,
746
00:21:54,460 --> 00:21:56,990
like spinoff called Satellite Art Fair.
747
00:21:56,990 --> 00:21:59,580
And they'd given me this Coworking space.
748
00:21:59,580 --> 00:22:01,280
It was defunct Coworking Space,
749
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:02,910
Three walls,
750
00:22:02,910 --> 00:22:03,900
white walls.
751
00:22:03,900 --> 00:22:05,180
And then one was glass.
752
00:22:05,180 --> 00:22:06,340
And it was,
753
00:22:06,340 --> 00:22:06,670
I think,
754
00:22:06,670 --> 00:22:07,420
15 feet by,
755
00:22:07,420 --> 00:22:09,530
15 feet square.
756
00:22:09,530 --> 00:22:10,230
And,
757
00:22:10,230 --> 00:22:14,570
um so the It's funny because I mentioned earlier that I developed like an instagram,
758
00:22:14,570 --> 00:22:16,330
like a daily practice.
759
00:22:16,330 --> 00:22:18,590
And so when it came time to do this art fair,
760
00:22:18,590 --> 00:22:18,940
I'm like,
761
00:22:18,940 --> 00:22:19,460
OK,
762
00:22:19,460 --> 00:22:20,660
I actually have developed this,
763
00:22:20,660 --> 00:22:21,320
you know,
764
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:22,120
a bank of like,
765
00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:25,380
165 days worth of material,
766
00:22:25,380 --> 00:22:25,650
you know,
767
00:22:25,650 --> 00:22:26,200
some good,
768
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:26,690
some bad.
769
00:22:26,690 --> 00:22:28,260
But I was able to look through all of it,
770
00:22:28,260 --> 00:22:30,950
kind of see the patterns and things that related to each other.
771
00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:31,760
And,
772
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:32,240
um,
773
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:36,400
I actually started turning this into the insulation for that art fair.
774
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:41,030
And I ended up buying three short throw Optima projectors.
775
00:22:41,030 --> 00:22:41,230
You know,
776
00:22:41,230 --> 00:22:44,020
each of them were about were under under $1000.
777
00:22:44,020 --> 00:22:44,500
Um,
778
00:22:44,500 --> 00:22:46,120
so not not too much of,
779
00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:46,490
Ah,
780
00:22:46,490 --> 00:22:47,050
you know,
781
00:22:47,050 --> 00:22:47,690
an investment,
782
00:22:47,690 --> 00:22:48,480
but enough.
783
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:49,730
It was brandy equipment.
784
00:22:49,730 --> 00:22:51,120
But you needed that for,
785
00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:51,290
like,
786
00:22:51,290 --> 00:22:53,810
a 15 but by 15 foot room,
787
00:22:53,810 --> 00:22:54,000
you know,
788
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,660
you really needed So I wanted to cover it from from Florida ceiling to really get that
789
00:22:57,660 --> 00:22:59,400
immersive experience.
790
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:00,330
Um,
791
00:23:00,330 --> 00:23:01,890
and so I just created it.
792
00:23:01,890 --> 00:23:02,530
Ah,
793
00:23:02,530 --> 00:23:03,720
kind of with,
794
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:03,940
just,
795
00:23:03,940 --> 00:23:04,100
like,
796
00:23:04,100 --> 00:23:05,480
very slow like that.
797
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,020
Visuals that kind of go a little bit past your attention span.
798
00:23:09,020 --> 00:23:14,350
So kind of holds you and the space is so small that it only fit about 15 people at a time.
799
00:23:14,350 --> 00:23:19,490
Um and so I put white rugs and pillows and things on the floor so people could kind of come
800
00:23:19,490 --> 00:23:22,820
in and lounge and just became this very intimate space.
801
00:23:22,820 --> 00:23:23,000
You know,
802
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,240
people were having some,
803
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:24,520
like,
804
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:25,050
nice,
805
00:23:25,050 --> 00:23:27,020
intimate conversations back and forth,
806
00:23:27,020 --> 00:23:27,260
and,
807
00:23:27,260 --> 00:23:28,180
um,
808
00:23:28,180 --> 00:23:31,860
I swear it was like the most engaged piece I have ever made.
809
00:23:31,860 --> 00:23:33,680
If you ever been to art Basil,
810
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,610
like people in the main convention hall,
811
00:23:35,610 --> 00:23:36,550
like people go in,
812
00:23:36,550 --> 00:23:38,290
they see a painting on the wall for like,
813
00:23:38,290 --> 00:23:38,810
a minute,
814
00:23:38,810 --> 00:23:39,090
you know,
815
00:23:39,090 --> 00:23:41,620
not even like I said I watched people look at things for,
816
00:23:41,620 --> 00:23:41,790
like,
817
00:23:41,790 --> 00:23:43,520
eight seconds and walk away.
818
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,310
There wasn't There was no connection there.
819
00:23:45,310 --> 00:23:48,140
Um and so But in my space,
820
00:23:48,140 --> 00:23:51,010
I had created a 20 minute audiovisual loop.
821
00:23:51,010 --> 00:23:54,100
I'd worked with a musician that created by Norrell beats,
822
00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:55,510
um something that said that,
823
00:23:55,510 --> 00:23:55,690
like,
824
00:23:55,690 --> 00:23:55,870
you know,
825
00:23:55,870 --> 00:23:57,680
different frequencies in each year.
826
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:58,070
You know,
827
00:23:58,070 --> 00:23:59,960
it kind of brings it to a kind of a meditative space.
828
00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:05,450
And so I kind of pared those those sounds with my visuals and people just stayed in my
829
00:24:05,450 --> 00:24:06,680
space for like an hour.
830
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,850
And it was just so lovely I to kick them out at the end of the night.
831
00:24:09,850 --> 00:24:11,000
Wow.
832
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,250
But it was It was like a really lovely experience.
833
00:24:13,250 --> 00:24:17,160
I feel like I got to have very meaningful conversations with people from around the world,
834
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,260
and it was just like such a fulfilling experience for me that I said,
835
00:24:21,260 --> 00:24:21,610
OK,
836
00:24:21,610 --> 00:24:23,030
this is what I want to keep doing.
837
00:24:23,030 --> 00:24:23,190
You know,
838
00:24:23,190 --> 00:24:26,040
it was just so lovely and it just everybody thanked me.
839
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:26,360
They said,
840
00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:26,550
You know,
841
00:24:26,550 --> 00:24:30,610
it's so crazy out there going to these conferences and running around all these different
842
00:24:30,610 --> 00:24:31,700
events and parties and You know,
843
00:24:31,700 --> 00:24:33,220
everybody is always so busy,
844
00:24:33,220 --> 00:24:33,740
right?
845
00:24:33,740 --> 00:24:35,450
And so this is the opposite of all of that.
846
00:24:35,450 --> 00:24:37,430
And it just kind of shut the world out and give you,
847
00:24:37,430 --> 00:24:37,590
like,
848
00:24:37,590 --> 00:24:38,700
a quiet space.
849
00:24:38,700 --> 00:24:40,010
So anywhere.
850
00:24:40,010 --> 00:24:42,100
This is an area that I want to keep exploring,
851
00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:43,570
like the sensory experience,
852
00:24:43,570 --> 00:24:45,410
Immersive,
853
00:24:45,410 --> 00:24:48,570
but like an emotional kind of quiet space.
854
00:24:48,570 --> 00:24:49,810
So I really enjoyed that.
855
00:24:49,810 --> 00:24:51,810
I think I'm gonna keep kind of pushing into that.
856
00:24:51,810 --> 00:24:52,280
See what?
857
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:52,980
See what happens.
858
00:24:52,980 --> 00:24:55,010
I've got a project coming up,
859
00:24:55,010 --> 00:24:56,850
which is working within a massive dome.
860
00:24:56,850 --> 00:24:58,180
Um Who?
861
00:24:58,180 --> 00:25:00,050
I've wanted to do that for a while now.
862
00:25:00,050 --> 00:25:00,350
Well,
863
00:25:00,350 --> 00:25:02,670
that let near near where I am in the UK.
864
00:25:02,670 --> 00:25:06,550
That sort of investment to an immersive dome training park.
865
00:25:06,550 --> 00:25:09,120
Not the It's not MSG sphere,
866
00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:09,550
is it?
867
00:25:09,550 --> 00:25:11,220
I don't know.
868
00:25:11,220 --> 00:25:11,780
It may be.
869
00:25:11,780 --> 00:25:12,490
Actually,
870
00:25:12,490 --> 00:25:14,660
it Maybe it's out in Leeds.
871
00:25:14,660 --> 00:25:15,990
I mean the Okay.
872
00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:16,570
Okay,
873
00:25:16,570 --> 00:25:17,070
okay.
874
00:25:17,070 --> 00:25:17,480
Okay.
875
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,070
I think this one's in London.
876
00:25:19,070 --> 00:25:19,830
Right?
877
00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:21,300
May maybe the same complete.
878
00:25:21,300 --> 00:25:23,880
It's branched out across across,
879
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:24,170
actually,
880
00:25:24,170 --> 00:25:26,050
because part of big university investment,
881
00:25:26,050 --> 00:25:28,390
um and I just I just met,
882
00:25:28,390 --> 00:25:32,620
met the woman yesterday and she went If I gave you an immersive space,
883
00:25:32,620 --> 00:25:33,670
would you be interested in sight.
884
00:25:33,670 --> 00:25:35,680
When can I do it with?
885
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,910
Wow,
886
00:25:36,910 --> 00:25:38,130
that sounds amazing.
887
00:25:38,130 --> 00:25:38,810
I know,
888
00:25:38,810 --> 00:25:39,190
right?
889
00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:39,720
So,
890
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:40,110
yeah,
891
00:25:40,110 --> 00:25:41,000
it was really interesting.
892
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:47,520
So what is What's the space that you ideally want to project them.
893
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:48,310
So if I said to you now,
894
00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:49,540
you can project on anything,
895
00:25:49,540 --> 00:25:50,300
any space you want.
896
00:25:50,300 --> 00:25:50,970
What is it?
897
00:25:50,970 --> 00:25:53,620
Wow.
898
00:25:53,620 --> 00:25:55,160
Nobody's ever asked me that.
899
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,900
Um good.
900
00:25:56,900 --> 00:25:57,580
This.
901
00:25:57,580 --> 00:25:58,200
Ah,
902
00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:58,680
Wow.
903
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,310
Maybe like an airplane hangar,
904
00:26:00,310 --> 00:26:04,610
I think I would like to take over an entire airplane hangar.
905
00:26:04,610 --> 00:26:06,060
I don't know what I would do with it yet,
906
00:26:06,060 --> 00:26:08,320
but thank you for giving me that idea.
907
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:15,750
I also like I live on the Long Island sound out here.
908
00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:16,120
You know,
909
00:26:16,120 --> 00:26:16,370
it's just,
910
00:26:16,370 --> 00:26:16,490
like,
911
00:26:16,490 --> 00:26:17,110
very quiet.
912
00:26:17,110 --> 00:26:17,850
And there's a lot of both.
913
00:26:17,850 --> 00:26:21,700
It's and I've seen some people project on sales,
914
00:26:21,700 --> 00:26:23,560
like sailboats and things like that.
915
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,730
That that's also been something kind of interesting.
916
00:26:25,730 --> 00:26:26,850
Like having a moving,
917
00:26:26,850 --> 00:26:27,620
um,
918
00:26:27,620 --> 00:26:31,520
projection on the water with the reflections and things like that.
919
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:32,140
Um,
920
00:26:32,140 --> 00:26:33,450
but I haven't done anything like that yet.
921
00:26:33,450 --> 00:26:34,130
Yeah,
922
00:26:34,130 --> 00:26:34,570
sure,
923
00:26:34,570 --> 00:26:34,990
sure.
924
00:26:34,990 --> 00:26:37,290
I wouldn't have any airport hangar.
925
00:26:37,290 --> 00:26:37,470
Now.
926
00:26:37,470 --> 00:26:40,250
Let's do it.
927
00:26:40,250 --> 00:26:41,370
Absolutely.
928
00:26:41,370 --> 00:26:42,230
Absolutely.
929
00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:44,170
So I guess Finally,
930
00:26:44,170 --> 00:26:46,950
then how can people connect with you on How could people find you?
931
00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:48,310
Sure.
932
00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:48,790
So,
933
00:26:48,790 --> 00:26:49,100
like I said,
934
00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:50,530
my name is Holly Danger.
935
00:26:50,530 --> 00:26:54,290
And so I have kind of taken over all of the social channels with that names.
936
00:26:54,290 --> 00:26:55,000
You can find me anywhere.
937
00:26:55,000 --> 00:27:00,230
And Holly Danger or my work is all on holly danger dot com on your website is phenomenal,
938
00:27:00,230 --> 00:27:00,730
by the way.
939
00:27:00,730 --> 00:27:01,880
Thank you.
940
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,120
Still working on it.
941
00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:05,570
Just developed a YouTube YouTube channel.
942
00:27:05,570 --> 00:27:08,130
I should also say that twice a week,
943
00:27:08,130 --> 00:27:09,460
Wednesdays and Saturday nights.
944
00:27:09,460 --> 00:27:11,540
I do alive VJ performance.
945
00:27:11,540 --> 00:27:13,090
Like actually an audiovisual.
946
00:27:13,090 --> 00:27:14,470
Since since Covic,
947
00:27:14,470 --> 00:27:16,620
I'm not working with external like musicians.
948
00:27:16,620 --> 00:27:17,850
I've started doing it myself.
949
00:27:17,850 --> 00:27:20,880
So D j B J session Ah,
950
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:21,540
twice a week,
951
00:27:21,540 --> 00:27:22,980
Wednesdays and Saturday nights,
952
00:27:22,980 --> 00:27:24,760
nine PM Eastern time.
953
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,410
Um and they can find that on YouTube at Holly Danger,
954
00:27:28,410 --> 00:27:30,040
but we're having a lot of fun with it.
955
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,650
We're actually gonna be doing our 30th show since quarantine this Saturday.
956
00:27:34,650 --> 00:27:37,020
What times?
957
00:27:37,020 --> 00:27:39,310
At 9 p.m. Eastern time,
958
00:27:39,310 --> 00:27:40,420
9 p.m. Eastern time.
959
00:27:40,420 --> 00:27:42,950
So I'll make sure that we put that on reaching out.
960
00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:44,210
I do have one final question.
961
00:27:44,210 --> 00:27:45,350
Should I forgot rescue,
962
00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:45,950
of course.
963
00:27:45,950 --> 00:27:46,310
What?
964
00:27:46,310 --> 00:27:52,190
What hardware do you integrate into your workflow Um what hard?
965
00:27:52,190 --> 00:27:53,120
Where do I integrate?
966
00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:53,340
Gosh,
967
00:27:53,340 --> 00:27:54,910
you're asking me some techie questions.
968
00:27:54,910 --> 00:27:57,250
I mean,
969
00:27:57,250 --> 00:27:58,010
I just Honestly,
970
00:27:58,010 --> 00:28:00,360
I run everything off of my Mac book pro.
971
00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:00,700
So,
972
00:28:00,700 --> 00:28:00,990
like,
973
00:28:00,990 --> 00:28:01,820
I you know,
974
00:28:01,820 --> 00:28:03,710
I don't really do anything crazy.
975
00:28:03,710 --> 00:28:07,550
I really just run everything off a laptop and that's been fined for me so far.
976
00:28:07,550 --> 00:28:10,180
That's absolutely perfect answer,
977
00:28:10,180 --> 00:28:13,310
because part of the whole my whole ethos is that actually,
978
00:28:13,310 --> 00:28:14,270
this is should this,
979
00:28:14,270 --> 00:28:17,870
you should be limited by budgets and kind of big tech.
980
00:28:17,870 --> 00:28:21,430
So I dio I do lots of kind of domestic work,
981
00:28:21,430 --> 00:28:27,550
and I just used to Ben Q short throw projectors about $800 each.
982
00:28:27,550 --> 00:28:28,990
And they're great.
983
00:28:28,990 --> 00:28:29,780
They're absolutely brilliant.
984
00:28:29,780 --> 00:28:29,920
I mean,
985
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:30,210
obviously,
986
00:28:30,210 --> 00:28:31,730
I wouldn't take them onto a building book.
987
00:28:31,730 --> 00:28:34,070
Then my night when I'm inside,
988
00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:35,520
I could just daisy chain them together,
989
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,700
and I've got this really kind of white camel.
990
00:28:37,700 --> 00:28:39,350
And what you could control the light.
991
00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:40,600
Yes.
992
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:41,550
God,
993
00:28:41,550 --> 00:28:41,850
Uh,
994
00:28:41,850 --> 00:28:49,390
it becomes a really interesting kind of financially viable kind of way to do it for me.
995
00:28:49,390 --> 00:28:50,030
Yes.
996
00:28:50,030 --> 00:28:50,620
Yes.
997
00:28:50,620 --> 00:28:51,040
And,
998
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:51,770
um yeah,
999
00:28:51,770 --> 00:28:52,850
I guess for me personally,
1000
00:28:52,850 --> 00:28:54,870
when I do outdoor projections,
1001
00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:59,210
I budget rental into the cost and actually in the last year.
1002
00:28:59,210 --> 00:28:59,480
I said,
1003
00:28:59,480 --> 00:28:59,760
You know what?
1004
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,220
I don't really want to do this set up anymore.
1005
00:29:01,220 --> 00:29:03,780
So I'm actually working with events companies to take care of,
1006
00:29:03,780 --> 00:29:04,060
you know,
1007
00:29:04,060 --> 00:29:06,210
setting up the trusts and letting all that.
1008
00:29:06,210 --> 00:29:07,130
Obviously,
1009
00:29:07,130 --> 00:29:10,540
that's a particular client that can pay for that type of work in order to be able to do
1010
00:29:10,540 --> 00:29:10,890
that.
1011
00:29:10,890 --> 00:29:11,780
Um,
1012
00:29:11,780 --> 00:29:15,710
but all I do a lot more indoor work than outdoors these days.
1013
00:29:15,710 --> 00:29:15,890
Men.
1014
00:29:15,890 --> 00:29:17,700
Maybe that's maybe that his budget related,
1015
00:29:17,700 --> 00:29:18,340
Um,
1016
00:29:18,340 --> 00:29:21,200
but I've totally fallen in love with um and Ivan.
1017
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,620
Any see laser.
1018
00:29:22,620 --> 00:29:24,280
That's I think it's a five K laser,
1019
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,370
but it is bright.
1020
00:29:25,370 --> 00:29:28,830
And if you do join us on our live stream show,
1021
00:29:28,830 --> 00:29:30,130
I used that.
1022
00:29:30,130 --> 00:29:32,720
One laser takes over like the entire gallery,
1023
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,150
and my space is not to.
1024
00:29:35,150 --> 00:29:35,950
It's not too big.
1025
00:29:35,950 --> 00:29:36,120
I mean,
1026
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,220
it's 700 square feet.
1027
00:29:37,220 --> 00:29:37,740
Ah,
1028
00:29:37,740 --> 00:29:40,470
but it is powerful and bright and colorful,
1029
00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:40,940
and I mean,
1030
00:29:40,940 --> 00:29:43,260
with lasers there said to you know,
1031
00:29:43,260 --> 00:29:43,730
I don't have to.
1032
00:29:43,730 --> 00:29:45,470
I don't have to change a bulb or anything.
1033
00:29:45,470 --> 00:29:47,160
It's like supposed to last for 10 years,
1034
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,940
so I feel like moving forward.
1035
00:29:49,940 --> 00:29:51,790
If I can just collect laser projectors.
1036
00:29:51,790 --> 00:29:53,080
That's my That's my goal.
1037
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:53,910
Yeah.
1038
00:29:53,910 --> 00:29:54,230
No,
1039
00:29:54,230 --> 00:29:54,780
I get that.
1040
00:29:54,780 --> 00:29:56,150
I've been looking places this morning,
1041
00:29:56,150 --> 00:29:56,440
actually,
1042
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,270
for another potential project.
1043
00:29:58,270 --> 00:30:00,050
So as my new passion,
1044
00:30:00,050 --> 00:30:02,140
Yes,
1045
00:30:02,140 --> 00:30:02,620
yes.
1046
00:30:02,620 --> 00:30:02,740
Well,
1047
00:30:02,740 --> 00:30:05,120
let let's keep in touch about all this stuff.
1048
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,200
Thank you so much for your time.
1049
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:07,540
Holy.
1050
00:30:07,540 --> 00:30:10,440
It's been absolutely so nice to chat with you.
1051
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,890
You have talking other video artists,
1052
00:30:12,890 --> 00:30:13,310
you know?
1053
00:30:13,310 --> 00:30:14,030
I know,
1054
00:30:14,030 --> 00:30:14,680
I know.
1055
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:15,100
Well,
1056
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:15,460
so,
1057
00:30:15,460 --> 00:30:16,230
actually,
1058
00:30:16,230 --> 00:30:19,200
whilst wants for that whilst were you Who's your inspiration?
1059
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,210
Wayne Coyne of the Flaming Lips?
1060
00:30:22,210 --> 00:30:25,650
No hesitation.
1061
00:30:25,650 --> 00:30:28,490
Have you ever have you ever seen a flaming lips show?
1062
00:30:28,490 --> 00:30:29,360
I haven't.
1063
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:29,880
No.
1064
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:30,030
Oh,
1065
00:30:30,030 --> 00:30:30,430
my gosh.
1066
00:30:30,430 --> 00:30:30,890
Well,
1067
00:30:30,890 --> 00:30:32,000
I'll have to send you some videos,
1068
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,950
but they don't They don't really.
1069
00:30:33,950 --> 00:30:38,660
I haven't seen them do projection necessary that they do wild stuff with led lights.
1070
00:30:38,660 --> 00:30:39,740
That is just this,
1071
00:30:39,740 --> 00:30:40,000
like,
1072
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,750
psychedelic experience.
1073
00:30:41,750 --> 00:30:44,680
And it's just so fun and so electric.
1074
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,280
And every song has just,
1075
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,840
like something surprising.
1076
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,470
I love the surprising element of it.
1077
00:30:49,470 --> 00:30:50,730
I love the color,
1078
00:30:50,730 --> 00:30:53,260
and the message is just like love and connection.
1079
00:30:53,260 --> 00:30:55,600
It is it's just such a beautiful experience.
1080
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:55,980
Um,
1081
00:30:55,980 --> 00:30:59,870
and I got the pleasure of meeting Wayne last year at one of his shows.
1082
00:30:59,870 --> 00:31:01,210
I actually made a video for him,
1083
00:31:01,210 --> 00:31:02,170
and I gave it to him.
1084
00:31:02,170 --> 00:31:05,240
And we have this whole conversation about video are everything.
1085
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:05,710
And it was just,
1086
00:31:05,710 --> 00:31:05,950
like,
1087
00:31:05,950 --> 00:31:09,850
incredible human being and I just like I was very inspired.
1088
00:31:09,850 --> 00:31:14,020
That's the great place to finish on being inside.
1089
00:31:14,020 --> 00:31:15,390
Carly.
1090
00:31:15,390 --> 00:31:15,930
Thank you so much.
1091
00:31:15,930 --> 00:31:16,950
Have a wonderful evening.
1092
00:31:16,950 --> 00:31:17,750
Thank you.
1093
00:31:17,750 --> 00:31:18,430
You too.
1094
00:31:18,430 --> 00:31:20,190
I want to speak to you very soon.
1095
00:31:20,190 --> 00:31:20,780
All right,
1096
00:31:20,780 --> 00:31:21,420
Take care.
1097
00:31:21,420 --> 00:31:22,190
Thank you.
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