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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,309 --> 00:00:08,058 (water trickles) 2 00:00:11,067 --> 00:00:16,067 (dramatic music) 3 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,570 - [Narrator] Canada is now the number one supplier of oil 4 00:00:29,570 --> 00:00:31,390 to the United States. 5 00:00:31,390 --> 00:00:34,600 Most of that oil is coming from the tar sands 6 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,070 in Northern Alberta, Canada. 7 00:00:37,070 --> 00:00:41,000 The tar sands of the biggest oil project in the world, 8 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,786 but this is an oil industry with an insatiable thirst. 9 00:00:45,786 --> 00:00:49,773 - We use 3.3 barrels of water per barrel of bitumen. 10 00:00:50,610 --> 00:00:52,030 - [Narrator] The current rates of production 11 00:00:52,030 --> 00:00:54,870 in the tar sands are at a million and a half barrels 12 00:00:54,870 --> 00:00:55,883 of oil a day. 13 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,373 - We could be dealing with a water versus oil situation. 14 00:01:02,890 --> 00:01:04,900 - [Narrator] The tar sands use fresh water 15 00:01:04,900 --> 00:01:07,090 to separate oil from sand. 16 00:01:07,090 --> 00:01:10,310 This turns the water into toxic sludge. 17 00:01:10,310 --> 00:01:14,240 Canada is now a world leader in waste production. 18 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,910 - We're talking about waste dumps 19 00:01:15,910 --> 00:01:17,310 that you can see from space. 20 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,680 - [Narrator] To find out where the tar sands get 21 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,910 their water from, you have to go to the source. 22 00:01:24,910 --> 00:01:27,370 The source is the Columbia ice fields 23 00:01:27,370 --> 00:01:29,910 in Jasper National Park. 24 00:01:29,910 --> 00:01:31,580 This glaciated landscape 25 00:01:31,580 --> 00:01:34,770 is supplying major multinational corporations 26 00:01:34,770 --> 00:01:37,430 with the fresh water resources they need 27 00:01:37,430 --> 00:01:40,350 to fill people's gas tanks. 28 00:01:40,350 --> 00:01:43,920 But this ice and snow is fast disappearing 29 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,455 under the relentless assault of climate change. 30 00:01:47,455 --> 00:01:50,406 - The glaciers, they're just almost being decapitated. 31 00:01:50,406 --> 00:01:53,156 (dramatic music) 32 00:01:54,490 --> 00:01:57,070 - [Narrator] These places are worlds apart, 33 00:01:57,070 --> 00:01:59,780 yet connected by a threat. 34 00:01:59,780 --> 00:02:02,540 This is a journey from ice fields 35 00:02:04,060 --> 00:02:05,373 to oil fields. 36 00:02:08,672 --> 00:02:12,505 (soft music) 37 00:02:17,103 --> 00:02:22,103 ♪ [Woman] If they blow hole in my backyard ♪ 38 00:02:22,115 --> 00:02:26,377 ♪ Everyone is gonna run away ♪ 39 00:02:26,377 --> 00:02:31,098 ♪ And the creeks won't flow to the great lake below ♪ 40 00:02:31,098 --> 00:02:36,098 ♪ Or the water in the world still get a care. ♪ 41 00:02:39,031 --> 00:02:42,950 ♪ We'll keep driving ♪ 42 00:02:42,950 --> 00:02:46,925 ♪ on the blind line ♪ 43 00:02:46,925 --> 00:02:51,925 ♪ If we don't know where ♪ 44 00:02:52,030 --> 00:02:56,414 ♪ we wanna go ♪ 45 00:02:56,414 --> 00:03:01,414 ♪ Even now is just sound ♪ 46 00:03:01,507 --> 00:03:06,507 ♪ can get water down ♪ 47 00:03:06,796 --> 00:03:10,252 ♪ Truth get tossed out ♪ 48 00:03:10,252 --> 00:03:15,252 ♪ the car window ♪ 49 00:03:16,093 --> 00:03:19,582 ♪ Truth get tossed out ♪ 50 00:03:19,582 --> 00:03:24,582 ♪ the car window ♪ 51 00:03:25,022 --> 00:03:27,401 ♪ If they blow a hole ♪ 52 00:03:27,401 --> 00:03:29,370 ♪ in back lawn ♪ 53 00:03:29,370 --> 00:03:34,370 ♪ The one that run across muscles of the land ♪ 54 00:03:34,388 --> 00:03:39,080 ♪ Oh we might get a low storm for the road ♪ 55 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:44,080 ♪ But I don't know how much longer it can stand ♪ 56 00:03:48,691 --> 00:03:51,900 (water splashes) 57 00:03:51,900 --> 00:03:53,790 - I've always been a lover of water 58 00:03:53,790 --> 00:03:55,700 in all of its forms. 59 00:03:55,700 --> 00:03:57,160 I love it when it hibernates up 60 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,870 in the quiet glacial landscapes. 61 00:03:59,870 --> 00:04:02,653 I love it when it comes to life further downstream. 62 00:04:03,550 --> 00:04:05,773 It's my work, it's my play. 63 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,743 My body is made up of two thirds of this substance. 64 00:04:10,770 --> 00:04:12,660 My Name is David lavallee. 65 00:04:12,660 --> 00:04:15,780 I work as a hiking guide in the Canadian Rockies. 66 00:04:15,780 --> 00:04:18,329 Over the years I've witnessed some startling changes 67 00:04:18,329 --> 00:04:20,773 to the glacial ice in this area. 68 00:04:20,773 --> 00:04:23,190 (soft music) 69 00:04:33,696 --> 00:04:38,696 (wind whistles) (snow crunches) 70 00:04:40,356 --> 00:04:42,645 - Is there snow out there, David? 71 00:04:42,645 --> 00:04:43,920 - Yeah, a little bit. 72 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,510 (snow crunches) 73 00:04:46,510 --> 00:04:48,637 - It's' good travel though. - Good. 74 00:04:50,380 --> 00:04:53,800 - Ken, Nevia and I are hiking to the top of Mount Snow Dome, 75 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,043 the frozen source of the Athabasca River. 76 00:04:56,043 --> 00:04:58,710 (snow crunches) 77 00:05:05,660 --> 00:05:08,010 In this rapidly changing glacial world, 78 00:05:08,010 --> 00:05:10,250 the regular rules for safe mountain traveled 79 00:05:10,250 --> 00:05:13,891 no longer apply and on this journey, I get surprised. 80 00:05:13,891 --> 00:05:16,728 (lightening thunders) 81 00:05:16,728 --> 00:05:18,779 - Through the hole. - What just happened? 82 00:05:18,779 --> 00:05:20,051 - David? - What just happened? 83 00:05:20,051 --> 00:05:24,083 - One of the quite light - (shovels snow) Yeah. 84 00:05:24,083 --> 00:05:26,133 - I need some of your hardware, you guys. 85 00:05:27,770 --> 00:05:29,383 - He took about a 30 foot tall. 86 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,050 It's a very deep glacier. 87 00:05:34,010 --> 00:05:36,720 - I'm gonna let you know when we're gonna start the haul, 88 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:37,868 if you'll hold onto that a little bit. 89 00:05:37,868 --> 00:05:40,356 Okay man, get. - All right. 90 00:05:40,356 --> 00:05:43,819 (dramatic music) (Grunts) 91 00:05:43,819 --> 00:05:45,986 - There we go? - Pull. 92 00:05:47,670 --> 00:05:48,954 (shouting) I got far David. - You okay? 93 00:05:48,954 --> 00:05:52,150 - One, two, you ready Dave? - Just throw it. 94 00:05:52,150 --> 00:05:55,813 - One, two, three. (David groans) 95 00:05:58,490 --> 00:06:00,736 - Okay, I got the duck walk (exhales loudly). 96 00:06:00,736 --> 00:06:02,336 - You okay, a little more? 97 00:06:02,336 --> 00:06:07,336 - You could just... I can't move my, just manhandled me. 98 00:06:07,427 --> 00:06:08,713 That's it, yeah. 99 00:06:08,713 --> 00:06:11,106 - (all) ooooooohh. 100 00:06:11,106 --> 00:06:13,050 - Get up boy. - Ooh. 101 00:06:13,050 --> 00:06:15,860 - I was just walking and all of a sudden next thing I knew 102 00:06:15,860 --> 00:06:16,903 I was just falling, 103 00:06:18,470 --> 00:06:19,303 long way, 104 00:06:20,220 --> 00:06:22,180 blue ice walls rushing past me 105 00:06:22,180 --> 00:06:24,260 and then the rope came tight, thank God. 106 00:06:24,260 --> 00:06:27,060 Thanks, good catch, good catch Nevia. 107 00:06:27,060 --> 00:06:29,470 It closes off at that end and that end. 108 00:06:29,470 --> 00:06:32,283 I'm just glad I felt here because had I fallen over there 109 00:06:32,283 --> 00:06:33,740 I would have nailed something, 110 00:06:33,740 --> 00:06:37,271 I would have broken a femur or something on a shelf of ice. 111 00:06:37,271 --> 00:06:42,271 Had I fell anywhere like, oh, angel on my shoulders, 112 00:06:42,810 --> 00:06:43,643 - Yeah it was good from there 113 00:06:43,643 --> 00:06:46,557 - Angel on my shoulders, oh God. 114 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,070 I climbed Mount Snow Dome 10 years ago. 115 00:06:53,070 --> 00:06:54,900 There were no crevasses here. 116 00:06:54,900 --> 00:06:57,360 It's too high in the mountain for crevasses. 117 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,650 Warm temperatures are getting at the glaciers, 118 00:06:59,650 --> 00:07:01,313 even at 11,000 feet. 119 00:07:02,688 --> 00:07:03,588 - There we go. 120 00:07:03,588 --> 00:07:05,505 - Yeah, hoo. - Come on&. 121 00:07:06,563 --> 00:07:07,820 Here we are. 122 00:07:07,820 --> 00:07:10,610 This is kinda like the water summit of North America. 123 00:07:10,610 --> 00:07:13,820 It's like the Mount Everest of water resources. 124 00:07:13,820 --> 00:07:16,390 - [Narrator] Mount Snow Dome is the hydrographic apex 125 00:07:16,390 --> 00:07:17,920 of North America. 126 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,020 A drop of water borne on its summit will end up 127 00:07:21,020 --> 00:07:23,980 in one of three oceans, the Arctic, 128 00:07:23,980 --> 00:07:26,053 the Atlantic or the Pacific. 129 00:07:27,710 --> 00:07:30,050 - Shawn Marshall was the first person to explain to me 130 00:07:30,050 --> 00:07:32,173 what was going on in these ice fields. 131 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,670 - The ice loss in the last 10 years, 15 years, 132 00:07:38,670 --> 00:07:41,440 has been more than anyone forecast. 133 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:42,950 The last year, really good year, 134 00:07:42,950 --> 00:07:45,930 where the glacier was gained to mass was 1977. 135 00:07:45,930 --> 00:07:48,050 So, we're looking at about 30 years now 136 00:07:48,050 --> 00:07:49,460 if it's sustained retreat. 137 00:07:49,460 --> 00:07:52,360 One of the most critical signs we've really seen 138 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,910 in the glaciers is they're losing snow all the way 139 00:07:54,910 --> 00:07:55,743 to the top. 140 00:07:55,743 --> 00:07:58,160 They're just almost being decapitated 141 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,410 that this accumulation area 142 00:07:59,410 --> 00:08:01,690 where you're supposed to be banking some snow 143 00:08:01,690 --> 00:08:03,870 isn't even keeping it's winter snow. 144 00:08:03,870 --> 00:08:06,830 That's a fairly new thing in the past few years. 145 00:08:06,830 --> 00:08:10,870 If this is the new reality, you know, 146 00:08:10,870 --> 00:08:13,690 a lot of years like this just means that the whole glacier 147 00:08:13,690 --> 00:08:15,190 is his way out of equilibrium. 148 00:08:15,190 --> 00:08:16,680 The whole thing will be gone. 149 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,670 - [David] If the changes are this dramatic here 150 00:08:18,670 --> 00:08:19,650 at the source, 151 00:08:19,650 --> 00:08:22,123 I wonder what the ripple effect is downstream. 152 00:08:23,350 --> 00:08:25,630 - So you guys can I get me how much water is needed 153 00:08:25,630 --> 00:08:29,940 for the oil sands operations versus the amount of snow 154 00:08:29,940 --> 00:08:32,950 and ice that can really be supplied to the Athabasca 155 00:08:32,950 --> 00:08:36,799 for fossil fuel based economy 156 00:08:36,799 --> 00:08:40,600 and consumers that are hooked on it are really driving 157 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,640 a warming which is driving the demise of ice fields 158 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:44,703 like the Athabasca 159 00:08:44,703 --> 00:08:46,087 and yet at the same time, 160 00:08:46,087 --> 00:08:48,240 the oil sands really depends on the water 161 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:49,380 from this Athabasca River. 162 00:08:49,380 --> 00:08:51,760 It's a strange circular irony. 163 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,380 - I certainly heard about the tar sands as a kid growing up 164 00:08:54,380 --> 00:08:57,860 in Alberta but they were always the small project. 165 00:08:57,860 --> 00:09:00,850 Now it's apparently quite huge, lots of water, 166 00:09:00,850 --> 00:09:02,070 lots of waste. 167 00:09:02,070 --> 00:09:04,770 All of it unfolding at the other end of this river. 168 00:09:04,770 --> 00:09:06,820 This river connects me to this industry 169 00:09:06,820 --> 00:09:09,923 but I know very little about what happens in the tar sands. 170 00:09:11,410 --> 00:09:13,300 Basically what we're gonna do is we're gonna follow 171 00:09:13,300 --> 00:09:16,970 an imaginary drop of water from the hydrographic apex, 172 00:09:16,970 --> 00:09:20,130 Mount Snow Dome all the way to Lake Athabasca, 173 00:09:20,130 --> 00:09:24,350 so the entire Athabasca River watersheds. 174 00:09:24,350 --> 00:09:26,200 The idea is we're going to follow that drop of water 175 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,447 and see what kind of things it gets subjected to. 176 00:09:29,447 --> 00:09:32,679 (soft music) (water trickles) 177 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:37,679 (water rushes) (soft music) 178 00:09:38,369 --> 00:09:41,270 When you've seen the beauty of this place and realize, 179 00:09:41,270 --> 00:09:42,908 oh, I'm watering my lawn with this 180 00:09:42,908 --> 00:09:45,692 (laughs). 181 00:09:45,692 --> 00:09:48,302 ♪ Came up to the wa-lley ♪ 182 00:09:48,302 --> 00:09:51,001 ♪ From my feet to knee ♪ 183 00:09:51,001 --> 00:09:53,824 ♪ Played my heels in pasture ♪ 184 00:09:53,824 --> 00:09:58,824 ♪ Felt the same giving inch all the people bath it ♪ 185 00:09:59,630 --> 00:10:02,134 ♪ 'Till came from day ♪ 186 00:10:02,134 --> 00:10:04,688 ♪ Smile my win win ♪ 187 00:10:04,688 --> 00:10:05,521 - I Got to grab to jump ahead 188 00:10:05,521 --> 00:10:07,871 ♪ to shower men, ♪ 189 00:10:07,871 --> 00:10:12,871 ♪ take me down to the water ♪ 190 00:10:13,566 --> 00:10:18,566 ♪ Fare you well with the do the shallow ♪ 191 00:10:18,935 --> 00:10:23,935 ♪ That's my name, that's my brethren ♪ 192 00:10:24,689 --> 00:10:28,175 ♪ Shore on the line, ♪ 193 00:10:28,175 --> 00:10:30,800 ♪ on my own ♪ 194 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,120 - I pull up the river in the town of Jasper 195 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,930 where I meet up with Ben Gadd, author, geologist 196 00:10:35,930 --> 00:10:37,540 and environmental activist. 197 00:10:37,540 --> 00:10:40,250 He informs me that something other than water 198 00:10:40,250 --> 00:10:42,900 will soon be flowing through this pristine landscape. 199 00:10:45,789 --> 00:10:48,980 (metal clunks) 200 00:10:48,980 --> 00:10:50,700 I have to know the mission and the mandate 201 00:10:50,700 --> 00:10:52,900 of Parks Canada to work in the parks. 202 00:10:52,900 --> 00:10:55,370 So the mission and the mandate is to preserve and protect, 203 00:10:55,370 --> 00:10:58,050 and leave a legacy for future generations. 204 00:10:58,050 --> 00:11:00,310 And then I find out that they've actually allowed 205 00:11:00,310 --> 00:11:03,783 a pipeline carrying tar sands oil through the park. 206 00:11:05,050 --> 00:11:06,760 How did this happen? 207 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,770 - There was already a pipeline in the park dating 208 00:11:09,770 --> 00:11:13,300 from 1953 that went through like that. 209 00:11:13,300 --> 00:11:15,410 Even though the national park care had to be changed 210 00:11:15,410 --> 00:11:17,340 to allow it at that time. 211 00:11:17,340 --> 00:11:19,066 The simple Order-in-Council, you know, 212 00:11:19,066 --> 00:11:22,710 and it when it was done and then the tar sands came on, 213 00:11:22,710 --> 00:11:26,120 as we all know, and now you have this huge line up 214 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,700 of billion dollar companies going back to the government 215 00:11:28,700 --> 00:11:30,927 of Canada and saying, 216 00:11:30,927 --> 00:11:34,297 "you know what, we need to get more oil from the tar sands, 217 00:11:34,297 --> 00:11:35,447 "but would increase it 218 00:11:35,447 --> 00:11:39,857 "to get this 45,000,000 liters per day 219 00:11:39,857 --> 00:11:42,520 "of crude oil going through Jasper everyday," 220 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,910 world heritage site, right up there with Stonehenge 221 00:11:44,910 --> 00:11:48,260 and its value to the world and that is what was approved 222 00:11:48,260 --> 00:11:50,710 by the government and by Parks Canada 223 00:11:50,710 --> 00:11:53,160 with no major public hearings. 224 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:54,450 Since then, there's been a lot 225 00:11:54,450 --> 00:11:56,280 of new environmental legislation, you know, 226 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,410 clean water, clean air and all these things. 227 00:11:58,410 --> 00:12:00,450 If the federal government had wanted to challenge 228 00:12:00,450 --> 00:12:02,920 this thing, I have no doubt they could have 229 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,950 but they didn't want to because by now 230 00:12:04,950 --> 00:12:08,270 it's not just the Alberta oil fields sending the oil out 231 00:12:08,270 --> 00:12:10,770 through this pipeline, it's the tar sands 232 00:12:10,770 --> 00:12:12,610 which is huge, huge. 233 00:12:12,610 --> 00:12:15,600 - [Narrator] Carrying tar sands crude is risky, 234 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,720 whether it's through undisturbed wilderness 235 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,740 or busy city streets. 236 00:12:19,740 --> 00:12:22,810 Kinder Morgan, the same company building the pipeline 237 00:12:22,810 --> 00:12:25,720 through Jasper was responsible for a rupture 238 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,993 of a pipeline carrying crude through Vancouver. 239 00:12:30,665 --> 00:12:33,180 - What's going on, What is it? 240 00:12:33,180 --> 00:12:36,149 Why are they not stopping it? 241 00:12:36,149 --> 00:12:38,969 - [Man] They're gonna probably have to evacuate houses. 242 00:12:38,969 --> 00:12:39,802 (dramatic music) 243 00:12:39,802 --> 00:12:42,780 - Toxic crude was washed down storm drains 244 00:12:42,780 --> 00:12:44,483 and into the Pacific Ocean. 245 00:12:46,460 --> 00:12:48,190 - What kind of industry has the power 246 00:12:48,190 --> 00:12:52,030 to overturn federal laws protecting national parks? 247 00:12:52,030 --> 00:12:54,183 In order to find out, I continued traveling down 248 00:12:54,183 --> 00:12:57,780 the Athabasca River through Jasper to Fort McMurray 249 00:12:57,780 --> 00:13:00,180 where I will be joining a flotilla paddling past 250 00:13:00,180 --> 00:13:01,553 the tar sands plants. 251 00:13:04,250 --> 00:13:06,630 - My name is Don Van Hout and I'm the expedition leader 252 00:13:06,630 --> 00:13:09,070 for the Athabasca River expedition 253 00:13:09,070 --> 00:13:11,120 which we're calling Connecting the Drops. 254 00:13:13,100 --> 00:13:15,610 There's a few hints of industry going on, 255 00:13:15,610 --> 00:13:17,230 like it looks natural when you're on the river 256 00:13:17,230 --> 00:13:19,510 you can't see what's going on above the banks 257 00:13:19,510 --> 00:13:21,800 but we're going to place called Tar Island 258 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,750 where all the dangerous chemicals are held back 259 00:13:24,750 --> 00:13:29,383 from flowing into the Athabasca River by sand hill. 260 00:13:30,900 --> 00:13:33,160 To me, this is kind of ground zero for this river. 261 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,760 This is where it all comes together. 262 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,220 This is where it needs the most help 263 00:13:38,220 --> 00:13:41,330 and international attention, like 23 percent of the province 264 00:13:41,330 --> 00:13:43,094 is gonna be impacted by this stuff. 265 00:13:43,094 --> 00:13:44,305 (water trickles) 266 00:13:44,305 --> 00:13:46,613 Sir, I think I can kind of see, 267 00:13:46,613 --> 00:13:48,640 (water trickles) 268 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,810 the mineral resource that they are looking for here. 269 00:13:51,810 --> 00:13:54,310 Bitumen there is no spiking cliffs over there. 270 00:13:54,310 --> 00:13:55,460 kind of looks all black 271 00:13:58,290 --> 00:14:00,720 - [Narrator} Bitumen is the product and the tar sands 272 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:05,580 that is upgraded than refined to make synthetic oil. 273 00:14:05,580 --> 00:14:08,230 - Say the natives used to patch their canoes with it. 274 00:14:10,269 --> 00:14:14,317 Now it's being touted as the solution to all 275 00:14:14,317 --> 00:14:16,223 of our energy problems. 276 00:14:17,770 --> 00:14:19,130 - We've come to the point where we have altered 277 00:14:19,130 --> 00:14:21,510 our landscape that we don't have to participate 278 00:14:21,510 --> 00:14:24,350 in the outdoors anymore or with anything natural 279 00:14:24,350 --> 00:14:26,100 in order to get by in or day to day lives 280 00:14:26,100 --> 00:14:27,590 like thinking about where our food comes 281 00:14:27,590 --> 00:14:29,880 from the grocery store, right? 282 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,560 It's not from the land. 283 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,380 A lot of people are just so far removed 284 00:14:34,380 --> 00:14:37,960 that they can take and scoop up two tons of of earth, 285 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,620 throw it in a truck, drive it away and make a barrel 286 00:14:40,620 --> 00:14:41,530 of oil out of it. 287 00:14:41,530 --> 00:14:43,330 And all this stuff that was living on top 288 00:14:43,330 --> 00:14:45,310 of it gets pushed up in a pile. 289 00:14:45,310 --> 00:14:48,060 (dramatic music) 290 00:15:13,954 --> 00:15:18,954 ♪The sunshine still trying ♪ 291 00:15:23,270 --> 00:15:28,270 ♪ Tell me what myth lies to you ♪ 292 00:15:29,596 --> 00:15:33,096 ♪ What secrets uncovered ♪ 293 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,850 - When you switch from light conventional oil 294 00:15:52,850 --> 00:15:56,800 to something as dirty, ugly and nasty as bitumen, 295 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,860 business as usual has ended. 296 00:15:58,860 --> 00:16:01,710 It's a signature of peak oil. 297 00:16:01,710 --> 00:16:03,910 And the fact that we are now exploiting 298 00:16:03,910 --> 00:16:06,690 this project tells us that we've run out 299 00:16:06,690 --> 00:16:07,940 of the cheap stuff, right? 300 00:16:07,940 --> 00:16:11,770 Like it's like we've run out of big fish in the ocean 301 00:16:11,770 --> 00:16:16,480 and so now we're after this the small, bony, a cruddy stuff 302 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,660 and that costs more to produce, costs more energy. 303 00:16:19,660 --> 00:16:22,620 We make more environmental sacrifices 304 00:16:22,620 --> 00:16:24,263 where it's bottom of the barrel. 305 00:16:25,900 --> 00:16:28,800 - I think one of the frustrations that we have in industry 306 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:33,070 is that a lot of our critics won't take the time to come 307 00:16:33,070 --> 00:16:34,993 and learn about what we're doing. 308 00:16:36,690 --> 00:16:41,090 They'll sort of look at the operations from one perspective, 309 00:16:41,090 --> 00:16:43,830 but they won't come back and look at the research 310 00:16:43,830 --> 00:16:46,590 that we're doing and look at some of the positive results 311 00:16:46,590 --> 00:16:47,450 that we have. 312 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,410 - There's trees on top of the muskeg. 313 00:16:51,410 --> 00:16:55,310 The timber companies come in, remove the trees. 314 00:16:55,310 --> 00:16:59,377 We peel back the different layers of muskeg and subsoils 315 00:16:59,377 --> 00:17:00,713 and we stockpiled them. 316 00:17:01,710 --> 00:17:04,680 Then we go in and we remove the overburden clays 317 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,150 and the tills, and we build deck structures, 318 00:17:08,150 --> 00:17:11,792 and a formations, dumps and stuff like that with them. 319 00:17:13,030 --> 00:17:17,030 Underneath, there's the bitumen, we mine the Bitumen, 320 00:17:17,030 --> 00:17:18,470 take it to extraction. 321 00:17:18,470 --> 00:17:21,560 They rented the oil off, send it to upgrading 322 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,880 and they send the sand back into behind the dikes, 323 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:25,953 into the ponds. 324 00:17:27,420 --> 00:17:31,070 - We use 3.3 barrels of water per barrel of bitumen. 325 00:17:31,070 --> 00:17:32,870 So that's the intensity measure 326 00:17:32,870 --> 00:17:35,340 that we're working very hard to reduce. 327 00:17:35,340 --> 00:17:38,610 - Is it possible at any point in the future 328 00:17:38,610 --> 00:17:40,300 with huge increase production 329 00:17:40,300 --> 00:17:42,683 that you'll ever actually run out of water to do 330 00:17:42,683 --> 00:17:46,930 what you need to do, given expanding production. 331 00:17:46,930 --> 00:17:50,001 - It's an industry's best interest to look this river 332 00:17:50,001 --> 00:17:53,163 and to decrease our water use. 333 00:17:55,710 --> 00:17:59,670 It's expensive to be mismanaging water. 334 00:17:59,670 --> 00:18:04,620 It's expensive to store water and we care as much 335 00:18:04,620 --> 00:18:06,710 about water as a resource as the rest 336 00:18:06,710 --> 00:18:07,730 of our stakeholders do. 337 00:18:07,730 --> 00:18:09,750 It's an important part of our process 338 00:18:09,750 --> 00:18:12,190 and it's in our best interests to ensure 339 00:18:12,190 --> 00:18:14,241 that we're managing that resource wisely. 340 00:18:14,241 --> 00:18:16,240 - The water allocations to this river, 341 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,480 specific to the oil sands is less three percent 342 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,760 of the mid annual flow. 343 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:26,630 So the water, there isn't a large allocation on this river. 344 00:18:26,630 --> 00:18:28,270 - So I was reading in the Edmonton Journal, 345 00:18:28,270 --> 00:18:29,900 sort of this back and forth between you 346 00:18:29,900 --> 00:18:32,450 and Preston McEachern from Alberta Environment 347 00:18:32,450 --> 00:18:34,910 about the flows and it seems like you guys 348 00:18:34,910 --> 00:18:37,100 have different views on whether the flows 349 00:18:37,100 --> 00:18:39,030 are really declining. 350 00:18:39,030 --> 00:18:42,030 - Well, Preston likes to quote these annual flows 351 00:18:42,030 --> 00:18:45,700 and the tiny proportion of they manual flows, 352 00:18:45,700 --> 00:18:48,863 which is total BS, 353 00:18:49,820 --> 00:18:52,170 but it is lie with statistics. 354 00:18:52,170 --> 00:18:54,310 All you have to do is quote the ones 355 00:18:54,310 --> 00:18:56,930 that are totally irrelevant to the problem at hand. 356 00:18:56,930 --> 00:18:58,730 - [Narrator] The statistic of three percent 357 00:18:58,730 --> 00:19:01,030 of annual flow is misleading. 358 00:19:01,030 --> 00:19:04,780 The critical month is January when the river is under ice, 359 00:19:04,780 --> 00:19:07,610 this is the eye of the needle through which fish populations 360 00:19:07,610 --> 00:19:10,260 have to pass in order to survive. 361 00:19:10,260 --> 00:19:13,080 In winter months, industry proposes taking 362 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,190 as much as 30 percent of the river's flow. 363 00:19:16,190 --> 00:19:18,423 - We see that no matter how low the flow is getting 364 00:19:18,423 --> 00:19:21,440 the Athabasca River, industry is still allowed 365 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:22,560 to take water out. 366 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,720 So even if you reach that threshold 367 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,270 where if the water levels drop below that, 368 00:19:27,270 --> 00:19:29,220 you risk collapsing the fishery, 369 00:19:29,220 --> 00:19:31,600 industry still allowed to take water. 370 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,760 - Dr. David Schindler, a world renowned water ecologist 371 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,010 working at the University of Alberta told me 372 00:19:37,010 --> 00:19:38,760 about the biggest challenge of all 373 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,003 to the world's thirstiest oil industry. 374 00:19:42,055 --> 00:19:46,530 - I see a number of things that are going to give us 375 00:19:46,530 --> 00:19:50,260 what you might consider to be the perfect storm of water. 376 00:19:50,260 --> 00:19:52,830 As we've been talking, the glaciers are dwindling. 377 00:19:52,830 --> 00:19:56,190 The snow pack's had been dwindling even more rapidly 378 00:19:56,190 --> 00:19:57,470 with climate warming. 379 00:19:57,470 --> 00:19:59,370 The temperatures been climbing. 380 00:19:59,370 --> 00:20:01,210 That's the only one factor though. 381 00:20:01,210 --> 00:20:05,020 On top of that, we have this huge industrial development 382 00:20:05,020 --> 00:20:10,010 and huge population increase and then the third factor 383 00:20:10,010 --> 00:20:12,650 is that until the 20th century, 384 00:20:12,650 --> 00:20:16,010 we had droughts almost every century that went on 385 00:20:16,010 --> 00:20:19,790 for a decade and in some cases three or four decades. 386 00:20:19,790 --> 00:20:22,350 When we reached the point 387 00:20:22,350 --> 00:20:25,790 where we have a climate warming 388 00:20:25,790 --> 00:20:27,050 at a certain point, 389 00:20:27,050 --> 00:20:30,370 population and industry at another point and then we get one 390 00:20:30,370 --> 00:20:32,250 of those historic droughts. 391 00:20:32,250 --> 00:20:35,390 We're going to know what water scarcity is all about. 392 00:20:35,390 --> 00:20:36,900 - [Narrator] Schindler published a report 393 00:20:36,900 --> 00:20:39,090 in the National Academy of Sciences Journal 394 00:20:39,090 --> 00:20:40,320 that found that all rivers 395 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,870 in Canada's western prairie provinces had lost 396 00:20:42,870 --> 00:20:46,230 between 20 and 84 percent of their summer flow 397 00:20:46,230 --> 00:20:47,903 since the early 20th century. 398 00:20:49,120 --> 00:20:52,220 - We could actually see a severe water shortages 399 00:20:52,220 --> 00:20:54,340 for some of the mining firms within the next five 400 00:20:54,340 --> 00:20:55,333 to 10 years. 401 00:20:55,333 --> 00:20:58,083 (dramatic music) 402 00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:02,220 - [Narrator] The biggest energy project in the world 403 00:21:02,220 --> 00:21:04,920 with an Achilles heel, water. 404 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,620 I wonder how we'll fill up our gas tanks in the middle 405 00:21:07,620 --> 00:21:09,233 of a perfect water storm. 406 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,700 - So it seems like the tar sands need an enormous amount 407 00:21:15,700 --> 00:21:19,270 of water to function, but I look around at this waste 408 00:21:19,270 --> 00:21:22,860 and I realized that my drop of water's journey is not over. 409 00:21:22,860 --> 00:21:25,320 I need to follow it to the next step. 410 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,270 After water gets drained out of the river 411 00:21:27,270 --> 00:21:30,410 and used in the process of separating sand from oil, 412 00:21:30,410 --> 00:21:33,110 it ends up in toxic tailings ponds. 413 00:21:33,110 --> 00:21:36,010 - When they separate the bitumen from the oil sands, 414 00:21:36,010 --> 00:21:39,840 they ended up with a slurry of water, sand and clay, 415 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,810 still has some residual hydrocarbons and some other toxins 416 00:21:42,810 --> 00:21:44,130 and they've gotta do something with it. 417 00:21:44,130 --> 00:21:45,990 In the long term, they're not sure what they're gonna do. 418 00:21:45,990 --> 00:21:49,270 So in the meantime, they store it in tailings ponds. 419 00:21:49,270 --> 00:21:50,860 One of Syncrude's tailings ponds 420 00:21:50,860 --> 00:21:53,020 is actually one of the largest dam structures 421 00:21:53,020 --> 00:21:57,110 in the world already and it's going to continue to grow. 422 00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:59,410 It's a bit of a misnomer to refer to them as ponds. 423 00:21:59,410 --> 00:22:00,410 Most people think of ponds, 424 00:22:00,410 --> 00:22:01,700 it's something you have in your backyard. 425 00:22:01,700 --> 00:22:03,420 Maybe you have some goldfish in it. 426 00:22:03,420 --> 00:22:06,420 We're talking about waste dumps that you can see from space. 427 00:22:07,890 --> 00:22:10,420 - The tailings ponds contain all sorts 428 00:22:10,420 --> 00:22:13,930 of a fish killing cancer making goop. 429 00:22:13,930 --> 00:22:17,950 They've got a heavy metals, they've got a naphthenic acids. 430 00:22:17,950 --> 00:22:19,560 They've got mercury, arsenic, 431 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,120 and so these ponds really are in many cases 432 00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:23,493 just kind of toxic stews. 433 00:22:24,418 --> 00:22:27,168 (dramatic music) 434 00:22:32,850 --> 00:22:35,570 - Nikiforuk stated in his book that if Alberta drained 435 00:22:35,570 --> 00:22:38,020 it's tar sands waste into Lake Erie, 436 00:22:38,020 --> 00:22:40,320 it would fill this great lake basin to a depth 437 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,810 of eight inches. 438 00:22:41,810 --> 00:22:46,023 By 2030, this toxic soup would be nearly seven feet deep. 439 00:22:49,310 --> 00:22:50,790 - Most of the ponds are leaking 440 00:22:50,790 --> 00:22:53,980 because they are only earthen structures. 441 00:22:53,980 --> 00:22:57,720 There's been two cases of ponds leaking into ground water 442 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,400 and we know that one of the early ponds, 443 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,880 the Tar Island dyke built by Suncor 444 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,060 has basically been leaking into the Athabasca River 445 00:23:04,060 --> 00:23:05,510 for 30 years. 446 00:23:05,510 --> 00:23:08,000 - [Narrator] But this slow motion spill Nikiforuk 447 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,660 is describing isn't the only danger in the area. 448 00:23:11,660 --> 00:23:15,430 Accidental breaches while rare are a huge risk. 449 00:23:15,430 --> 00:23:16,900 - We have three known incidents 450 00:23:16,900 --> 00:23:19,040 in the oil sands themselves, relatively minor, 451 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,600 but throughout the mining industry worldwide. 452 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,600 There are numerous examples of tailings dams breaching 453 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,440 over time either because of poor design, poor maintenance, 454 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,760 or just sometimes it's a case of accidents. 455 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,710 - Our Group, Dam Safety in conjunction with the industries 456 00:23:35,710 --> 00:23:39,200 has been very proactive in terms of monitoring the stability 457 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,860 of these structures because of course the safety 458 00:23:41,860 --> 00:23:45,980 of these dams is a major priority for Albert Environments, 459 00:23:45,980 --> 00:23:50,730 an issue that we feel that of course very important to us. 460 00:23:50,730 --> 00:23:54,390 - If there was a breach of an oil sands tailing dam 461 00:23:54,390 --> 00:23:56,460 just north of Fort McMurray, 462 00:23:56,460 --> 00:23:58,870 the contaminants would flow north 463 00:23:58,870 --> 00:24:02,180 through the piece Athabascan Delta into Lake Athabasca 464 00:24:02,180 --> 00:24:05,310 into the Slave River and into the great Slave Lake, 465 00:24:05,310 --> 00:24:08,080 past Yellowknife into the MaKenzie River 466 00:24:08,918 --> 00:24:12,690 on and on all the way North into the Mackenzie Delta 467 00:24:12,690 --> 00:24:14,063 and into the Beaufort sea. 468 00:24:17,380 --> 00:24:18,950 - The Mackenzie River basin 469 00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:20,470 is the world's third largest watershed. 470 00:24:20,470 --> 00:24:22,400 You know, you've got the Mississippi and you've got Amazon, 471 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,540 and then you've got the McKenzie. 472 00:24:23,540 --> 00:24:26,110 - If All the tailings were to be released 473 00:24:26,110 --> 00:24:28,810 in one cataclysmic event due to say 474 00:24:28,810 --> 00:24:30,630 an earthquake or something. 475 00:24:30,630 --> 00:24:33,700 I think it would effectively sterilize 476 00:24:33,700 --> 00:24:36,010 the Athabasca River system. 477 00:24:36,010 --> 00:24:40,210 The amount of toxins contained in all the tailings 478 00:24:40,210 --> 00:24:43,670 is a spectacular amount, 479 00:24:43,670 --> 00:24:48,420 and once you can find that into a single river system, 480 00:24:48,420 --> 00:24:51,730 it would effectively kill everything in its path. 481 00:24:51,730 --> 00:24:54,823 It would affect the system for centuries. 482 00:25:01,290 --> 00:25:03,790 - I continue my journey down the Athabasca River 483 00:25:03,790 --> 00:25:05,950 to the First Nations community of Fort Chipewyan, 484 00:25:05,950 --> 00:25:09,383 200 kilometers downstream of the tar sands. 485 00:25:11,982 --> 00:25:13,892 (water trickles) 486 00:25:13,892 --> 00:25:18,892 (melancholic music) 487 00:25:32,884 --> 00:25:35,384 (boat clicks) 488 00:25:36,540 --> 00:25:37,389 (fish thuds) 489 00:25:37,389 --> 00:25:38,829 - Look at that, look at that pickerel guys? 490 00:25:38,829 --> 00:25:40,008 - [Woman] It's awkward 491 00:25:40,008 --> 00:25:41,630 - Look at this pickerel. 492 00:25:41,630 --> 00:25:42,810 - Yeah, are they tasty? 493 00:25:42,810 --> 00:25:46,037 - Yeah, we've framed primer, you know it. 494 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,363 - Yeah, how big do you think that pickerel is? 495 00:25:49,363 --> 00:25:50,803 - Maybe it's worth, 496 00:25:53,695 --> 00:25:55,111 eight, seven, eight pound. 497 00:25:55,111 --> 00:25:55,944 - [Woman] That's what I would say. 498 00:25:55,944 --> 00:25:58,790 - Seven pound, perfect, ten pound 499 00:25:58,790 --> 00:25:59,860 - And the pike? 500 00:25:59,860 --> 00:26:02,229 - That was probably 18 or so. 501 00:26:02,229 --> 00:26:04,190 - They look like a fighter, that's for sure. 502 00:26:04,190 --> 00:26:06,103 Yeah, big teeth. 503 00:26:08,894 --> 00:26:10,413 (soft music) 504 00:26:10,413 --> 00:26:13,163 (water splashes) 505 00:26:14,354 --> 00:26:16,771 (soft music) 506 00:26:18,369 --> 00:26:21,340 (fire crackles) 507 00:26:21,340 --> 00:26:23,550 - I see they're catching fish quite okay. 508 00:26:23,550 --> 00:26:25,632 I'm always worried, are they good to eat? 509 00:26:25,632 --> 00:26:26,715 Are you okay? 510 00:26:28,510 --> 00:26:30,810 I know I would like to really get it tested 511 00:26:30,810 --> 00:26:32,630 because everybody's worried, especially up north 512 00:26:32,630 --> 00:26:36,820 in the basin of the of the Delta and I've spoken to elders. 513 00:26:36,820 --> 00:26:38,410 They've seen so many diseases now 514 00:26:38,410 --> 00:26:41,110 that they have never have seen before. 515 00:26:41,110 --> 00:26:42,850 - Wow, look at that. 516 00:26:42,850 --> 00:26:46,240 - There are restrictions on the consumption of fish 517 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,560 in this area due to natural concentrations of mercury, 518 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,860 not to concentrations related to contaminants 519 00:26:52,860 --> 00:26:54,111 from the oil sands. 520 00:26:54,111 --> 00:26:56,778 (water ripples) 521 00:27:13,690 --> 00:27:15,630 - Fort Chipewyan is at the very end 522 00:27:15,630 --> 00:27:17,350 of the Athabasca River. 523 00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:20,680 Any dangerous chemicals in the river would end up here. 524 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,683 I wonder if the water's safe to drink. 525 00:27:24,218 --> 00:27:27,051 (machine rattles) 526 00:27:27,900 --> 00:27:29,440 - The water treatment water like once 527 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,900 it's in our distribution system, 528 00:27:30,900 --> 00:27:33,770 it's perfectly good water but out in the lake 529 00:27:33,770 --> 00:27:36,330 and we kind of just deeper like you used to in the past, 530 00:27:36,330 --> 00:27:38,830 like even when I was growing up and I was a youngster 531 00:27:38,830 --> 00:27:41,170 like we used to have our water hole 532 00:27:41,170 --> 00:27:43,620 was in the Athabasca River. 533 00:27:43,620 --> 00:27:46,170 So, I do have concerns for my children because I want them 534 00:27:46,170 --> 00:27:49,030 to grow up, you know, having the same opportunities 535 00:27:49,030 --> 00:27:51,490 I had like to go in the land and fish, you know, 536 00:27:51,490 --> 00:27:56,300 it'd be nice to know if there is something wrong 537 00:27:56,300 --> 00:27:57,450 with the water. 538 00:27:57,450 --> 00:27:58,530 I used to work at Syncrude 539 00:27:58,530 --> 00:28:03,530 and I one of my buddies we upset of both in the pond 540 00:28:04,144 --> 00:28:04,977 - In the tailings pond? 541 00:28:04,977 --> 00:28:06,000 - Right in the tailings pond 542 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,160 and it was near not the discharge. 543 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,560 I went under a couple of times. 544 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,180 I'm like, gulp down a maybe two or three gulps 545 00:28:14,180 --> 00:28:16,430 of whatever was in the pond 546 00:28:16,430 --> 00:28:18,283 because I didn't feel good after that. 547 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,300 So they fired us off to the regional health center 548 00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:24,360 in Fort Macmurray and the doctors, 549 00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:26,900 they required a list of what was it, 550 00:28:26,900 --> 00:28:28,120 what I swallowed, right. 551 00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:29,410 So they're quite a list. 552 00:28:29,410 --> 00:28:32,880 There must have been 27 different types of chemicals. 553 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,930 - Personally, I've had four family members die 554 00:28:34,930 --> 00:28:38,280 from cancer all within about a five, six year period 555 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,320 and I think just about anybody else you talk to 556 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,410 will have had a family member that's died from cancer 557 00:28:44,500 --> 00:28:47,520 and nobody was really listening to us. 558 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,300 - [Narrator] Neither government nor industry 559 00:28:49,300 --> 00:28:50,760 was prepared to conduct 560 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,873 a serious study of the contaminants in Fort Chipewyan. 561 00:28:54,740 --> 00:28:58,320 So the Nunee Health Board had to undertake one themselves 562 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,763 and hired Dr Kevin Timoney, 563 00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:04,150 I'm happy you're here and I'd like 564 00:29:04,150 --> 00:29:05,860 to introduce Dr Kevin Timoney to you 565 00:29:05,860 --> 00:29:09,304 and he will take the floor, thank you. 566 00:29:09,304 --> 00:29:12,054 (audience claps) 567 00:29:13,710 --> 00:29:16,910 - Donna told you it's, there's been some concern 568 00:29:16,910 --> 00:29:19,900 in the community about the quality of the water 569 00:29:19,900 --> 00:29:22,490 in the sediments and contaminants in the wildlife 570 00:29:22,490 --> 00:29:25,420 and how that might be related to diseases 571 00:29:25,420 --> 00:29:26,600 in the community. 572 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,070 For people who eat locally caught fish, the health risk 573 00:29:31,070 --> 00:29:34,670 to you is greater than the Alberta government 574 00:29:34,670 --> 00:29:36,870 has told you. 575 00:29:36,870 --> 00:29:41,040 The three contaminants of most concern are arsenic, 576 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,870 PAHs is and mercury. 577 00:29:43,870 --> 00:29:48,160 All the Walleye, all the female white fish and 90 percent 578 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,300 of the male white fish exceed 579 00:29:50,300 --> 00:29:52,620 the mercury consumption guidelines. 580 00:29:52,620 --> 00:29:55,770 These are a cause for some serious concern. 581 00:29:55,770 --> 00:29:56,670 - the normal fish? 582 00:29:57,910 --> 00:30:00,420 Fish are an important part in your diet. 583 00:30:00,420 --> 00:30:02,150 They're an important part of your culture, 584 00:30:02,150 --> 00:30:07,150 your community and so it is difficult to recommend 585 00:30:07,450 --> 00:30:09,350 not to eat the fish. 586 00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:13,710 If you eat the moose and the fish and the berries 587 00:30:13,710 --> 00:30:17,620 from the area, there will be about 312 588 00:30:17,620 --> 00:30:22,160 to 453 additional cases of cancer 589 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,410 per 100,000 people in the population. 590 00:30:25,410 --> 00:30:28,190 The concern is that the chief agency responsible 591 00:30:28,190 --> 00:30:30,120 for protecting your health, 592 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,380 the Alberta government also has a vested interest 593 00:30:33,380 --> 00:30:35,150 in oil sands developments. 594 00:30:35,150 --> 00:30:38,610 - We've been battling these issues for years 595 00:30:38,610 --> 00:30:39,940 and nothing has been done. 596 00:30:39,940 --> 00:30:43,030 Why, because people downs town where decision makers 597 00:30:43,030 --> 00:30:46,610 are not up here facing, but we as community leaders 598 00:30:46,610 --> 00:30:47,850 have to put up with. 599 00:30:47,850 --> 00:30:51,010 We see our youth that are starting to get cancer rates. 600 00:30:51,010 --> 00:30:53,530 This was never like that before. 601 00:30:53,530 --> 00:30:55,760 Now there's new plants that are coming up. 602 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,810 You mentioned just that one plant that has a discharge back 603 00:30:58,810 --> 00:30:59,700 into the river. 604 00:30:59,700 --> 00:31:01,700 How would the Suncors, IBM and Stans, 605 00:31:01,700 --> 00:31:04,760 General, petro-Canada, the Kerr Creek, 606 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,950 they all have impacted to that passed it 607 00:31:06,950 --> 00:31:08,950 to where they don't care because they're down south. 608 00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:10,080 It doesn't affect them. 609 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,630 We're the ones that are getting all this shit up here. 610 00:31:12,630 --> 00:31:15,190 - [Narrator] Few outsiders knew the issues the community 611 00:31:15,190 --> 00:31:18,733 was facing but then something happened. 612 00:31:19,663 --> 00:31:23,460 1,600 ducks on their annual migration mistook 613 00:31:23,460 --> 00:31:26,181 a tailings pond for a lake and landed. 614 00:31:26,181 --> 00:31:27,014 (duck quacks) 615 00:31:27,014 --> 00:31:31,723 None flew away, it was the duck heard round the world. 616 00:31:33,877 --> 00:31:35,110 (duck quacks) 617 00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:38,380 - They're all coming from the Fort McMurray area. 618 00:31:38,380 --> 00:31:41,370 We working directly with Fish and Wildlife, 619 00:31:41,370 --> 00:31:42,970 they give us a call and let us know 620 00:31:42,970 --> 00:31:45,340 when there's animals impacted and what plan 621 00:31:45,340 --> 00:31:46,800 they're being put on. 622 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,370 They are sent to one of the airports here in Edmonton 623 00:31:49,370 --> 00:31:50,500 and we pick them up 624 00:31:50,500 --> 00:31:55,500 - Wrap it up. (duck whistles) 625 00:31:56,510 --> 00:31:57,660 - [Narrator] Pressured by the public, 626 00:31:57,660 --> 00:32:00,370 the federal and provincial governments initiated 627 00:32:00,370 --> 00:32:02,920 legal action against Syncrude. 628 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,040 This trial came to an end two years later 629 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,941 with Syncrude being fined $3.3,000,000. 630 00:32:09,941 --> 00:32:12,691 (dramatic music) 631 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,860 - [Woman] Technically-- - Fact is, is that birds die 632 00:32:17,860 --> 00:32:18,960 in these tailing lakes, 633 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,200 large animals dying in these tailing lakes 634 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,230 because they are inherently dangerous. 635 00:32:23,230 --> 00:32:25,420 The only solution really is to eliminate 636 00:32:25,420 --> 00:32:27,720 these tailing lakes all together and again, 637 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,153 that's another place that the federal 638 00:32:30,153 --> 00:32:30,986 and provincial government are failing their responsibility. 639 00:32:30,986 --> 00:32:33,311 - Yeah, exactly don't go south or there. 640 00:32:33,311 --> 00:32:34,144 - This is exciting 641 00:32:34,144 --> 00:32:35,702 - Don't go North. - Don't go North. 642 00:32:35,702 --> 00:32:37,170 (all laughs) 643 00:32:37,170 --> 00:32:38,250 - [Narrator] Three days after 644 00:32:38,250 --> 00:32:40,680 a three point $3.3,000,000 fine, 645 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,680 roughly 300 ducks landed on another Syncrude tailings pond 646 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,702 and none flew away. 647 00:32:47,702 --> 00:32:50,702 (melancholic music) 648 00:32:55,430 --> 00:32:58,070 - I went back to take a look at some of those tailings ponds 649 00:32:58,070 --> 00:32:59,320 where the ducks had died. 650 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,153 This is interesting. 651 00:33:01,153 --> 00:33:03,590 We were here about eight months ago 652 00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:06,290 and there was a big sign here. 653 00:33:06,290 --> 00:33:07,533 It said Syncrude and-- 654 00:33:07,533 --> 00:33:08,500 - He has come back - We move mountains here. 655 00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:09,604 - Come back by the way. 656 00:33:09,604 --> 00:33:11,556 - That's it. - Yeah 657 00:33:11,556 --> 00:33:14,130 - And there comes the... 658 00:33:14,130 --> 00:33:15,389 - Hi there? - We are going. 659 00:33:15,389 --> 00:33:17,620 - Good yeah but we're have to get you guys 660 00:33:17,620 --> 00:33:18,973 to leave right now. 661 00:33:18,973 --> 00:33:20,630 - Okay - Because-- 662 00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:22,110 - Because why? 663 00:33:22,110 --> 00:33:24,390 - Why, because you can't film here. 664 00:33:24,390 --> 00:33:26,350 I can't help it but you guys will have to go. 665 00:33:26,350 --> 00:33:28,380 - All right, well, why? 666 00:33:28,380 --> 00:33:29,910 - I'm just a Messenger. 667 00:33:29,910 --> 00:33:30,840 - Who's telling you we're out there? 668 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,220 - Come from higher up. 669 00:33:32,220 --> 00:33:33,688 - From higher up? 670 00:33:33,688 --> 00:33:34,521 - From corporate. 671 00:33:34,521 --> 00:33:35,580 - How high up? (laughs) 672 00:33:35,580 --> 00:33:36,900 - Corporate. 673 00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:40,172 - Corporate, so corporate cares about what we're doing? 674 00:33:40,172 --> 00:33:42,200 - Yeah, you are trespassing. 675 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,260 So we can't allow that, you can't film. 676 00:33:44,260 --> 00:33:46,520 It's on the regulations, you can't film. 677 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,765 - Okay, all right, we already respect that. 678 00:33:48,765 --> 00:33:49,948 - Okay. - Okay. 679 00:33:49,948 --> 00:33:50,865 - Thank you 680 00:33:52,075 --> 00:33:54,040 - I don't know, it just seems like the messaging here 681 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,200 is just getting so tight ever since 682 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,150 a duck incident everything's changing. 683 00:33:58,150 --> 00:34:01,117 Out there before used to be a sign that said, 684 00:34:01,117 --> 00:34:02,607 "we move mountains here," 685 00:34:03,590 --> 00:34:05,990 it's a biggest earth moving projects since the pyramids 686 00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:07,230 and now they removed the sign. 687 00:34:07,230 --> 00:34:08,790 I guess it's not per se anymore 688 00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:11,030 to have that kind of a sign. 689 00:34:11,030 --> 00:34:13,440 Especially when you've got this duck sensitive 690 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,190 and all these ducks that are dying. 691 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,230 Is there some kind of ironic way that the bird situation 692 00:34:20,230 --> 00:34:23,600 has helped raise awareness? 693 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,699 - There's more than now water following. 694 00:34:24,699 --> 00:34:27,449 There's actually human beings that are involved 695 00:34:27,449 --> 00:34:30,159 and being affected in this and that's what the Canada 696 00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:32,670 and the rest of North America has to see and the rest 697 00:34:32,670 --> 00:34:34,076 of the world that you know, 698 00:34:34,076 --> 00:34:36,889 there is actually communities downstream 699 00:34:36,889 --> 00:34:38,590 from this center getting affected. 700 00:34:39,489 --> 00:34:42,840 Understand these ducks come here on an annual basis. 701 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,100 We are here year round. 702 00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:46,090 What do we have to do? 703 00:34:46,090 --> 00:34:48,650 Do I have to line up 500 of my people, 704 00:34:48,650 --> 00:34:52,100 log into tailings pond, get that same response. 705 00:34:52,100 --> 00:34:55,840 - Before I start, I would like to apologize for the fact 706 00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,360 that some of you were probably sitting in this gym waiting 707 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,820 for us on April 17th when we were supposed to come 708 00:35:03,820 --> 00:35:05,590 into this the last time. 709 00:35:05,590 --> 00:35:09,330 We were very disappointed that we couldn't come 710 00:35:09,330 --> 00:35:11,020 and see you that evening. 711 00:35:11,020 --> 00:35:13,850 The good news is on April 17th, 712 00:35:13,850 --> 00:35:17,990 we only had muffins and this time when we bought KFC. 713 00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:21,080 So I think you came out a little bit better in the end. 714 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,630 I hope you enjoyed your dinner. 715 00:35:24,410 --> 00:35:26,363 So Kevin, I'll let you get started. 716 00:35:29,740 --> 00:35:31,690 - Thanks Brenda and thanks to the community 717 00:35:31,690 --> 00:35:32,740 and the chiefs here. 718 00:35:32,740 --> 00:35:35,350 I really appreciate the opportunity to be here tonight. 719 00:35:35,350 --> 00:35:39,470 So these are our approval actually for our water discharge 720 00:35:39,470 --> 00:35:44,200 from our process recycled water system on site. 721 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,170 - [Man] Would you suggest that some of them 722 00:35:46,170 --> 00:35:47,810 are cancer causing, 723 00:35:47,810 --> 00:35:50,193 Have cancer causing contaminants in them? 724 00:35:52,741 --> 00:35:54,583 Carcinogenic PAHS? 725 00:35:56,140 --> 00:35:59,283 - Well, it's all a function of dosage 726 00:35:59,283 --> 00:36:01,290 and exposure over time. 727 00:36:01,290 --> 00:36:05,070 So, it's an individual basis 728 00:36:05,070 --> 00:36:08,480 to different humans are more susceptible 729 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:09,910 to cancers than others. 730 00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:11,357 - So, yes, yes? 731 00:36:12,340 --> 00:36:13,620 They could contribute 732 00:36:13,620 --> 00:36:17,540 but I can't conclusively say 733 00:36:17,540 --> 00:36:18,373 that they do. 734 00:36:18,373 --> 00:36:20,869 It's an due to a number of factors. 735 00:36:20,869 --> 00:36:24,286 - [Man] So then why do you keep doing it? 736 00:36:25,810 --> 00:36:28,370 - So again, these are licensed limits 737 00:36:28,370 --> 00:36:30,490 and we do a lot of work 738 00:36:30,490 --> 00:36:32,820 on the river out these limits to understand 739 00:36:32,820 --> 00:36:34,233 the impact on the river. 740 00:36:35,140 --> 00:36:37,060 - There was a spill that happened about a year ago 741 00:36:37,060 --> 00:36:40,400 that basically we're just being informed about 742 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,403 which was about a million liters of tailings. 743 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,343 So July seven, 744 00:36:46,343 --> 00:36:49,300 - O seven. - O seven. 745 00:36:49,300 --> 00:36:53,600 How can we prepare our people when a quantity of that size 746 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,600 is going into our river system? 747 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,010 We weren't told of anything. 748 00:36:58,010 --> 00:37:01,660 How can I prepare my people to tell them basically 749 00:37:01,660 --> 00:37:04,090 you cannot drink water because of this. 750 00:37:04,090 --> 00:37:08,790 - We really need to discuss this July incident because we, 751 00:37:08,790 --> 00:37:10,645 I have no knowledge of such an incident. 752 00:37:10,645 --> 00:37:14,052 - [Man] You are saying there's no July 2007 incident 753 00:37:14,052 --> 00:37:18,465 of 1,000,000 liters of toxic tailings into Athabasca? 754 00:37:18,465 --> 00:37:20,002 I'm not aware of that incident. 755 00:37:20,002 --> 00:37:22,250 - And you know how important water is to us, 756 00:37:22,250 --> 00:37:23,680 you've heard us all evening. 757 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,403 All these people are afraid. 758 00:37:26,460 --> 00:37:28,580 We've lost a lot of people here. 759 00:37:28,580 --> 00:37:29,670 We've lost a lot of people. 760 00:37:29,670 --> 00:37:31,833 We bury people all the time. 761 00:37:35,910 --> 00:37:38,410 And the government still gives out their licenses. 762 00:37:40,030 --> 00:37:41,730 You should be ashamed of yourself. 763 00:37:47,260 --> 00:37:48,853 - I'm just as confused as ever. 764 00:37:48,853 --> 00:37:50,360 So when I began this trip, 765 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,700 I had this naive idea that I was going to find out the truth 766 00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:55,880 and what I've discovered is that truth 767 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,700 like the water in the Athabaska river is liquid. 768 00:37:58,700 --> 00:38:01,290 The arguments put forth by government and industry 769 00:38:01,290 --> 00:38:03,190 are that there is no cause for concern 770 00:38:03,190 --> 00:38:05,070 for people living downstream, 771 00:38:05,070 --> 00:38:07,250 but I've seen firsthand the obvious impact 772 00:38:07,250 --> 00:38:08,630 on this community. 773 00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:10,880 I'm realizing that how information is presented 774 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,100 is critical, only independent science can give me 775 00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:15,480 a holistic picture. 776 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,520 So I go to Edmonton where Dr. Schindler 777 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,790 is working on a study of the contaminant loading 778 00:38:19,790 --> 00:38:20,623 in the river. 779 00:38:21,918 --> 00:38:24,580 - So there's two questions we want to answer. 780 00:38:24,580 --> 00:38:28,840 Number one is how much is the mining contributing 781 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,780 to the toxicity of the Athabasca River? 782 00:38:32,780 --> 00:38:37,780 How much will those streams if they are toxic, be diluted 783 00:38:38,220 --> 00:38:42,180 by the time that river reaches the Fort Chipewyan 784 00:38:42,180 --> 00:38:45,240 an area whose look like some pretty high values. 785 00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:46,853 Those tubes down there. 786 00:38:48,210 --> 00:38:49,680 - I read Schindler Study 787 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,590 which sample contaminants that came out 788 00:38:51,590 --> 00:38:53,430 of smokestacks in the area. 789 00:38:53,430 --> 00:38:56,290 He found that in a 50 square kilometer radius, 790 00:38:56,290 --> 00:39:00,380 11,000 metric tons of particulate got deposited in the snow 791 00:39:00,380 --> 00:39:01,840 in the winter months. 792 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,130 When the snow melted this particulate 793 00:39:04,130 --> 00:39:05,960 got into creeks and streams leading 794 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,710 into the Athabasca River. 795 00:39:07,710 --> 00:39:10,750 This was the equivalent of a major oil spill. 796 00:39:10,750 --> 00:39:13,800 Water and air are totally interconnected. 797 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,753 You can't look at one without considering the other. 798 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,200 Dr. Schindler's findings prompted him 799 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,770 to collaborate with Dr. Timoney 800 00:39:23,770 --> 00:39:25,710 and the people of Fort Chipewyan, 801 00:39:25,710 --> 00:39:26,820 to display for the press 802 00:39:26,820 --> 00:39:29,440 and Edmonton contaminated fish caught downstream 803 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,433 of the tar sands. 804 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,450 - [Narrator] Schindler's research focused 805 00:39:35,450 --> 00:39:39,340 on the Athabasca River and impacts from mining, 806 00:39:39,340 --> 00:39:41,120 but mining is only the first step 807 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,730 of the process. 808 00:39:42,730 --> 00:39:45,993 The second step is piping it to the upgraders. 809 00:39:47,110 --> 00:39:51,000 Now, David will follow an imaginary drop of water eastward 810 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,713 on the Saskatchewan River. 811 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,570 Bill Donahue, a colleague of Dr. Schindler's takes me 812 00:39:59,570 --> 00:40:02,700 on a visit to upgrader alley where the mines are sending 813 00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:03,653 the heavy oil. 814 00:40:05,370 --> 00:40:07,120 - For an impact, do you think the upgraders 815 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,900 will have on the river? 816 00:40:08,900 --> 00:40:10,830 - Well, I mean they'll certainly reduced the amount 817 00:40:10,830 --> 00:40:13,670 of flow downstream of Edmonton and down stream 818 00:40:13,670 --> 00:40:16,120 of the refineries and then potentially 819 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,400 also there's the likelihood of increased contaminant loading 820 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,750 in the river. 821 00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:25,280 - A few years ago I had the opportunity to visit the source 822 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,720 of where these upgraders get their water from, 823 00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:29,370 the Saskatchewan glacier. 824 00:40:29,370 --> 00:40:32,730 So this map was made in 1996 and it tells us 825 00:40:32,730 --> 00:40:35,770 that where we're standing there should be ice. 826 00:40:35,770 --> 00:40:40,770 If you take a look, that's where the ice actually is. 827 00:40:40,980 --> 00:40:42,870 - [Narrator] This glacier is the source of water 828 00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:46,110 for Edmonton, a city of a million people. 829 00:40:46,110 --> 00:40:49,180 A report by the Pembina Institute concluded 830 00:40:49,180 --> 00:40:52,270 that each upgrading plant, we'll use a minimum 831 00:40:52,270 --> 00:40:56,630 of 5 billion liters of water annually and only a quarter 832 00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:59,410 of this will be returned to the river. 833 00:40:59,410 --> 00:41:02,270 This could create the conditions for major conflicts 834 00:41:02,270 --> 00:41:05,593 with Saskatchewan and Manitoba over water. 835 00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:09,600 - So what we do here in Edmonton Effects Manitoba. 836 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,416 - Yeah, and I've been in meetings, 837 00:41:11,416 --> 00:41:13,180 interprovincial meetings where people 838 00:41:13,180 --> 00:41:14,480 from Manitoba and Saskatchewan 839 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,120 have got up and expressed real alarm 840 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,920 at what they see coming. 841 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,540 - I wonder what alarm bells are going off downstream 842 00:41:21,540 --> 00:41:23,520 on the North Saskatchewan River. 843 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,560 David Sauchyn is a scientist working out 844 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,130 of the University of Regina 845 00:41:27,130 --> 00:41:29,600 who has compiled an impressive array of data 846 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,820 on the rivers flow over time. 847 00:41:31,820 --> 00:41:34,010 - We've been studying the Saskatchewan River 848 00:41:34,010 --> 00:41:37,500 for the past several years and in particular the record 849 00:41:37,500 --> 00:41:40,260 of stream flow for the last millennium. 850 00:41:40,260 --> 00:41:41,620 And the reason we collect wood 851 00:41:41,620 --> 00:41:45,380 is because the tree rings record the weather 852 00:41:45,380 --> 00:41:47,570 and on the prairies they record how much water 853 00:41:47,570 --> 00:41:48,930 was available every year. 854 00:41:48,930 --> 00:41:51,840 Trees are excellent but we want validation 855 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,760 of what we see in the trees. 856 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,420 So few years ago I sent a student to the Hudson Bay 857 00:41:56,420 --> 00:41:58,420 or curves in Winnipeg, Manitoba. 858 00:41:58,420 --> 00:42:03,420 He found this gem from 1796 from Fort Edmonton 859 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,200 on the North Saskatchewan River. 860 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,770 And I quote the fur traders as saying 861 00:42:07,770 --> 00:42:11,010 that the first could not be moved there being no water 862 00:42:11,010 --> 00:42:11,930 in the river. 863 00:42:11,930 --> 00:42:14,970 So that spring, the North Saskatchewan River 864 00:42:14,970 --> 00:42:16,750 could not support a canoe. 865 00:42:16,750 --> 00:42:20,380 And we've seen nothing like it since then. 866 00:42:20,380 --> 00:42:23,380 Nothing that would cause the entire north Saskatchewan River 867 00:42:23,380 --> 00:42:26,140 to virtually dry up but it's entirely possible. 868 00:42:26,140 --> 00:42:27,940 It can happen in the near future. 869 00:42:27,940 --> 00:42:32,690 This river after all is about 12 to 14,000 years old 870 00:42:32,690 --> 00:42:35,240 and we're talking about a severe drought that happened 871 00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:36,840 just 200 years ago. 872 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,860 If all of those upgrades or something like nine get built, 873 00:42:40,860 --> 00:42:42,410 the amount of water that's required, 874 00:42:42,410 --> 00:42:46,160 it will be like 10 times the current allocation for the city 875 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,710 of Edmonton and I've seen quotes of from the proponents 876 00:42:49,710 --> 00:42:51,240 of these projects where they refer 877 00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:56,240 to the North Saskatchewan water as a reliable 878 00:42:56,290 --> 00:42:59,430 and the river being a viable source of water 879 00:42:59,430 --> 00:43:02,480 and I'm not sure how they've reached this conclusion. 880 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,880 - [David] But Sauchyn warned me about a related industry 881 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,750 that could put even more pressure on the river. 882 00:43:07,750 --> 00:43:10,880 - I've read the proposal from Bruce Power 883 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:15,180 for this nuclear power facility that would be built next 884 00:43:15,180 --> 00:43:16,650 to the North Saskatchewan River. 885 00:43:16,650 --> 00:43:21,650 Apparently, the purpose of this nuclear power facility 886 00:43:21,670 --> 00:43:23,820 would be to supply the people of Saskatchewan 887 00:43:23,820 --> 00:43:26,000 with an additional source of power, 888 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,730 but given its proximity to the Alberta oil sands, 889 00:43:28,730 --> 00:43:29,700 it's hard to imagine 890 00:43:29,700 --> 00:43:31,770 that there wouldn't be another customer. 891 00:43:31,770 --> 00:43:34,650 - [Narrator] Currently the tar sands power their operations 892 00:43:34,650 --> 00:43:37,400 using large amounts of natural gas. 893 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,090 Since Canada only has enough natural gas 894 00:43:40,090 --> 00:43:43,910 to extract 29% of the available bitumen, 895 00:43:43,910 --> 00:43:47,350 government and industry are pushing for nuclear energy 896 00:43:47,350 --> 00:43:50,960 to fill the void once the natural gas runs out. 897 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,850 - [David] So what happens to a nuclear power plant 898 00:43:52,850 --> 00:43:54,203 if it runs out of water? 899 00:43:57,060 --> 00:44:00,450 - I'm not sure what what the consequences are 900 00:44:00,450 --> 00:44:02,920 if a nuclear reactor runs out of water. 901 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,380 Just based on my rudimentary understanding of nuclear power, 902 00:44:06,380 --> 00:44:09,480 it has to be cooled using a source of water. 903 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,010 And so I can only imagine what the consequences are 904 00:44:12,010 --> 00:44:14,030 if they run out of water. 905 00:44:14,030 --> 00:44:15,630 And I'm not sure if they've taken that into account 906 00:44:15,630 --> 00:44:19,220 because they must be fairly confident that this river 907 00:44:19,220 --> 00:44:20,690 would never run die. 908 00:44:20,690 --> 00:44:24,230 And yet we have the quote from the Hudson Bay Company 909 00:44:24,230 --> 00:44:26,880 indicating that they couldn't move firs there 910 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,280 being no water in the river. 911 00:44:29,310 --> 00:44:32,620 - The Institute of Development published a report 912 00:44:32,620 --> 00:44:35,340 on our reliance of nuclear power in an era 913 00:44:35,340 --> 00:44:37,030 when the climate is changing. 914 00:44:37,030 --> 00:44:38,407 They found that 915 00:44:38,407 --> 00:44:41,957 "a lack of cooling water can lead to serious consequences 916 00:44:41,957 --> 00:44:43,647 "in the nuclear power plant 917 00:44:43,647 --> 00:44:48,340 "and May in extreme cases even risk a nuclear meltdown." 918 00:44:48,340 --> 00:44:50,660 - [Reporter] Older power sources indispensable to cool 919 00:44:50,660 --> 00:44:52,180 the nuclear fuels were last. 920 00:44:52,180 --> 00:44:54,460 - [Narrator] Although this particular incident in Japan 921 00:44:54,460 --> 00:44:56,860 was caused by a tsunami and flooding, 922 00:44:56,860 --> 00:45:00,890 the report also cites a 2006 incident in France 923 00:45:00,890 --> 00:45:03,430 when heat waves cause drops in river levels, 924 00:45:03,430 --> 00:45:07,110 forcing 17 nuclear reactors to either shut down 925 00:45:07,110 --> 00:45:08,470 or limit their out put. 926 00:45:08,470 --> 00:45:10,210 - [Woman] Nuclear reactors are believed to have fallen 927 00:45:10,210 --> 00:45:13,093 into the state of melt down, one after another. 928 00:45:14,850 --> 00:45:17,210 A large amount of radioactive substances 929 00:45:17,210 --> 00:45:18,503 have been dispersed. 930 00:45:20,020 --> 00:45:22,340 - all across Saskatchewan people were getting together 931 00:45:22,340 --> 00:45:24,490 to speak out against the government's position 932 00:45:24,490 --> 00:45:25,562 on nuclear power plants. 933 00:45:25,562 --> 00:45:26,830 - We wanna get educated. 934 00:45:26,830 --> 00:45:28,060 How safe is it for us? 935 00:45:28,060 --> 00:45:31,210 How safe is it for our boys and everything else? 936 00:45:31,210 --> 00:45:33,460 I've kind of come to the conclusion I can live 937 00:45:33,460 --> 00:45:35,950 with it myself but this is what it's all about 938 00:45:35,950 --> 00:45:40,123 is these young fellas and we got to look out for them. 939 00:45:41,230 --> 00:45:43,110 I guess would the health part of it, 940 00:45:43,110 --> 00:45:45,700 I think maybe the town mayor here maybe said it best. 941 00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:47,870 We've got one group here saying the world's gonna end 942 00:45:47,870 --> 00:45:49,850 with the health studies. 943 00:45:49,850 --> 00:45:53,690 Another side saying is perfectly safe and it's up to us 944 00:45:53,690 --> 00:45:55,940 to find it what acceptable risk is. 945 00:45:55,940 --> 00:45:57,060 I feel with our children, 946 00:45:57,060 --> 00:45:58,703 there is no acceptable risk. 947 00:45:59,964 --> 00:46:02,714 (audience claps) 948 00:46:06,986 --> 00:46:11,100 - This tar sands which is what the nuclear powers for, 949 00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:14,193 we have to begin to take this whole operation into place. 950 00:46:14,193 --> 00:46:16,017 We can't just say, 951 00:46:16,017 --> 00:46:17,996 "well, let's talk about nuclear, 952 00:46:17,996 --> 00:46:21,110 "let's talk about an upgrader, let's store one". 953 00:46:21,110 --> 00:46:24,520 We have to take this whole thing together, all in one shot, 954 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,010 not at all. And if we don't want the whole shot, 955 00:46:28,010 --> 00:46:29,837 throw the down, works out. 956 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,090 - [David] And here I thought I was going on a glacier hike 957 00:46:33,090 --> 00:46:35,910 and a canoe trip to follow a drop of water. 958 00:46:35,910 --> 00:46:38,690 But now I find myself watching the final days 959 00:46:38,690 --> 00:46:42,440 of an energy era, the downward spiral into chaos 960 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,480 as we struggled to use any means necessary including nuclear 961 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,037 to extend the age of oil . 962 00:46:49,165 --> 00:46:53,810 Back in Alberta upgraders, we're raising the stakes 963 00:46:53,810 --> 00:46:57,423 for another community on the banks of the Athabasca. 964 00:46:57,423 --> 00:47:00,403 Just being trailed here by security. 965 00:47:02,970 --> 00:47:05,590 So last winter there was a huge explosion 966 00:47:05,590 --> 00:47:07,150 at an upgrading plant, 967 00:47:07,150 --> 00:47:09,960 I guess reports were saying that the workers were running 968 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,080 for their lives from huge corrugated sheets 969 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,890 of iron raining down from the sky and one worker ended up 970 00:47:15,890 --> 00:47:17,980 with third degree burns. 971 00:47:17,980 --> 00:47:20,690 This is the same upgrading plans where one 972 00:47:20,690 --> 00:47:24,330 of the workers died when he drowned in a tailings pond 973 00:47:24,330 --> 00:47:28,410 and I guess this incident, this explosion really affected 974 00:47:28,410 --> 00:47:29,511 the people of Fort McMurray. 975 00:47:29,511 --> 00:47:31,250 So I'm just going up to find out. 976 00:47:31,250 --> 00:47:32,540 I've been chatting with some folks up there, 977 00:47:32,540 --> 00:47:34,300 going up to find out more about it. 978 00:47:34,300 --> 00:47:37,467 (native's drum booms) 979 00:47:44,460 --> 00:47:45,293 (camera clicks) 980 00:47:45,293 --> 00:47:46,126 - Mom, can I see? 981 00:47:46,126 --> 00:47:48,543 (drum booms) 982 00:47:50,010 --> 00:47:52,820 - The blast was felt and heard by a number 983 00:47:52,820 --> 00:47:54,200 of community residents here. 984 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,120 So at that time, I believe the, you can see 985 00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,230 some of the black plumes. 986 00:47:59,230 --> 00:48:00,130 It's a good thing, yeah, 987 00:48:00,130 --> 00:48:01,510 the wind was blowing in the right direction 988 00:48:01,510 --> 00:48:03,120 because it was a westerly wind. 989 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,250 It was taking the blast away, 990 00:48:06,250 --> 00:48:08,050 the smoke away from the community. 991 00:48:08,050 --> 00:48:10,790 Who knows what's in that plume of smoke. 992 00:48:10,790 --> 00:48:13,670 In these plants, they got hundreds, 993 00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:15,810 thousands of different types of chemicals. 994 00:48:15,810 --> 00:48:17,712 - Mike Orr showed me the plant in question. 995 00:48:17,712 --> 00:48:20,120 - Then ten minutes from the time explosion happen, 996 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,960 I got to call and some people there got so scared 997 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,320 that they were on some of the pieces of equipment 998 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:26,770 in the area there. 999 00:48:26,770 --> 00:48:30,900 They just got off the equipment, ran to the parking lot, 1000 00:48:30,900 --> 00:48:32,990 got into their own vehicles and just took off right 1001 00:48:32,990 --> 00:48:35,510 out of it, that's how scared they was. 1002 00:48:35,510 --> 00:48:38,620 - Mike took me on a mystery tour to an area in the Bush 1003 00:48:38,620 --> 00:48:40,700 that was attracting national attention. 1004 00:48:40,700 --> 00:48:43,200 (egine roars) 1005 00:48:47,374 --> 00:48:52,374 (water splashing) (engine roars) 1006 00:48:56,826 --> 00:49:00,097 (engine revs) 1007 00:49:00,097 --> 00:49:03,178 (engine roars) (water splashes) 1008 00:49:03,178 --> 00:49:05,720 We finally arrived and then I saw it. 1009 00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:08,450 The ugliest waterfall I'd ever seen 1010 00:49:08,450 --> 00:49:11,970 I had followed my imaginary drop of water into a graveyard. 1011 00:49:11,970 --> 00:49:13,510 - It's a three sided tailings pond. 1012 00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:16,740 Yes, they have three berms and the one side is open 1013 00:49:16,740 --> 00:49:18,710 to the vegetation and everything 1014 00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:19,840 right into the bushes. 1015 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,933 You see all the tar sands there is, 1016 00:49:21,933 --> 00:49:25,780 that what come out of the pipes from the process. 1017 00:49:25,780 --> 00:49:27,750 I guess in his all comes into here and flows right 1018 00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:30,530 into there and you get to see the right into the tree line 1019 00:49:30,530 --> 00:49:32,750 and whatnot, the tar. 1020 00:49:32,750 --> 00:49:33,793 - So it's leaking into the Bush. 1021 00:49:33,793 --> 00:49:36,483 - Right into the bush, right into there, 1022 00:49:37,671 --> 00:49:39,533 When we, when I came out here, 1023 00:49:39,533 --> 00:49:41,640 I've made a few trips out here, 1024 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,760 also seeing rabbits, chickens, wolf right 1025 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:46,593 in this whole area. 1026 00:49:46,593 --> 00:49:48,830 They are here because this is all fresh vegetation. 1027 00:49:48,830 --> 00:49:52,250 Even CBC News, they took some shots of that. 1028 00:49:52,250 --> 00:49:54,360 - So, I know all the other tailings ponds, 1029 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,310 they've got berms around them. 1030 00:49:56,310 --> 00:49:58,660 So, but this one you say is leaking into the bush. 1031 00:49:58,660 --> 00:50:01,113 So how are they allowed to do that? 1032 00:50:02,350 --> 00:50:03,553 - I don't know. 1033 00:50:04,670 --> 00:50:05,880 They started what's approved it, 1034 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:10,410 it was pre-approved 20 minutes either direction 1035 00:50:10,410 --> 00:50:12,280 we come upon one of these things and these people 1036 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:16,520 in the community feel like that lonely cattle. 1037 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,170 You know, because were corralled in any direction we go. 1038 00:50:19,170 --> 00:50:20,710 It's, we're surrounded here. 1039 00:50:20,710 --> 00:50:23,820 - Mike had taken a CBC reporter to see the tailings ponds 1040 00:50:23,820 --> 00:50:25,193 in November of 2010. 1041 00:50:26,530 --> 00:50:28,410 When the story broke, it triggered debates 1042 00:50:28,410 --> 00:50:30,900 in both the House of Commons and the Alberta Legislature. 1043 00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:34,560 - Public had no clue that apparently unsecured tailings dam 1044 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,280 was being built across trap lines in Northern Alberta. 1045 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,910 And there was no public consultation 1046 00:50:38,910 --> 00:50:41,050 after the ERCB conditionally approved 1047 00:50:41,050 --> 00:50:44,810 the strange three walled tailings pond in 2004. 1048 00:50:44,810 --> 00:50:47,790 First it was ducks put at risk by toxic tailing soup. 1049 00:50:47,790 --> 00:50:49,930 And now animals are reportedly free to wander 1050 00:50:49,930 --> 00:50:51,600 into this three walled pool. 1051 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,320 So to the Ministry of the Environment, 1052 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,930 how could this government possibly approve 1053 00:50:55,930 --> 00:50:58,350 such a seemingly nonsensical strategy 1054 00:50:58,350 --> 00:51:01,230 for containing liquid toxic sledge? 1055 00:51:01,230 --> 00:51:05,330 - Mr. Speaker, there is an allegation 1056 00:51:05,330 --> 00:51:10,330 that somehow the tailing pond is not operating as it was. 1057 00:51:11,646 --> 00:51:14,638 It was intended and what the members referring to 1058 00:51:14,638 --> 00:51:18,170 is a footprint for a pond that is not yet full. 1059 00:51:18,170 --> 00:51:19,930 The pond is rising. 1060 00:51:19,930 --> 00:51:24,320 It is not going beyond the footprint that was designated. 1061 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:25,920 - Can the minister now tell this house 1062 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,490 whether he's received that report 1063 00:51:27,490 --> 00:51:28,770 and whether he will table it 1064 00:51:28,770 --> 00:51:31,330 in the legislature to prove his claim 1065 00:51:31,330 --> 00:51:33,770 that his three sided pool is not leaking 1066 00:51:33,770 --> 00:51:34,603 into the water. 1067 00:51:34,603 --> 00:51:36,560 - [Mr. Speaker] The honorable Minister 1068 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,020 - Trying, well again, Mr. Speaker, 1069 00:51:40,020 --> 00:51:42,710 the member is referring to a report that was requested 1070 00:51:42,710 --> 00:51:43,550 by the ERCB. 1071 00:51:43,550 --> 00:51:46,810 I remind her one more time that the ERCB reports 1072 00:51:46,810 --> 00:51:47,740 to the minister of energy, 1073 00:51:47,740 --> 00:51:49,490 not to the minister of environment. 1074 00:51:49,490 --> 00:51:50,983 - [Mr. Speaker] The honorable member? 1075 00:51:51,860 --> 00:51:54,010 - Wow, duck and dive there, 1076 00:51:54,010 --> 00:51:54,843 so well could the minister please advise 1077 00:51:54,843 --> 00:51:55,852 the house whether-- 1078 00:51:55,852 --> 00:51:57,869 - We gotta hold industry accountable 1079 00:51:57,869 --> 00:51:59,530 we will always be checking out in the bush 1080 00:51:59,530 --> 00:52:02,070 like this out in our area, wherever we can, you know, yeah. 1081 00:52:02,070 --> 00:52:04,730 - The oil company responded to the attention 1082 00:52:04,730 --> 00:52:07,080 that they were getting by cutting down all the trees 1083 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,913 around the pond to avoid attracting animals. 1084 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,083 - These are fresh moose tracks. 1085 00:52:18,062 --> 00:52:18,895 - Correct but these are-- 1086 00:52:18,895 --> 00:52:21,127 - This are fresh? - That's fresh 1087 00:52:21,127 --> 00:52:23,794 (milling sound) 1088 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,620 - Thinking we were a herd of Caribou, 1089 00:52:29,620 --> 00:52:32,893 the noisemakers designed to scare animals away went off. 1090 00:52:36,660 --> 00:52:39,975 My personal favorite was the screaming man. 1091 00:52:39,975 --> 00:52:42,200 (man scream) 1092 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,977 - There has been a Muskrat swimming right there 1093 00:52:43,977 --> 00:52:45,910 and you can see there's still no barrier. 1094 00:52:45,910 --> 00:52:47,730 There's no differentiating 1095 00:52:47,730 --> 00:52:48,930 between what the tailing's water is 1096 00:52:48,930 --> 00:52:50,980 and what the fresh water is. 1097 00:52:50,980 --> 00:52:54,400 This is the fourth side of the tailings that's open. 1098 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,580 They may have been operating within their legal permit 1099 00:52:56,580 --> 00:52:58,113 but not their moral permit. 1100 00:52:59,540 --> 00:53:02,490 And in that sense, I mean, how could this design 1101 00:53:02,490 --> 00:53:04,180 be hidden from Canada? 1102 00:53:04,180 --> 00:53:06,994 How could it be hidden from the people of McKay? 1103 00:53:06,994 --> 00:53:10,260 (engine roars) 1104 00:53:10,260 --> 00:53:13,300 - So, we're just out for a Sunday drive 1105 00:53:13,300 --> 00:53:15,740 with the family, going to see the tailings ponds. 1106 00:53:15,740 --> 00:53:18,157 (all laughs) 1107 00:53:19,410 --> 00:53:20,600 back in McKay 1108 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,460 Mel Grand Jams surprise me with a revelation. 1109 00:53:23,460 --> 00:53:26,983 - One of the things going back a few years ago, 1110 00:53:27,860 --> 00:53:32,860 was we had an ammonia leak from one of the southern plants 1111 00:53:33,370 --> 00:53:37,210 and the ammonia level in the community was quite high 1112 00:53:37,210 --> 00:53:39,430 and intense and, and it got to a point 1113 00:53:39,430 --> 00:53:44,290 where we had to bring emergency response paramedics 1114 00:53:44,290 --> 00:53:46,860 to the school because some of the kids were vomiting 1115 00:53:46,860 --> 00:53:48,145 and those kinds of things. 1116 00:53:48,145 --> 00:53:49,660 - You got into the school? 1117 00:53:49,660 --> 00:53:53,080 The leak was caused by the failure of a desulfurization flew 1118 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,308 in the tar sands plant just south of town. 1119 00:53:56,308 --> 00:53:59,141 (dramatic sounds) 1120 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,420 Can you tell me what happened that day? 1121 00:54:03,420 --> 00:54:05,627 - You were getting lightheaded, people were puking 1122 00:54:05,627 --> 00:54:09,430 and a few passed out and like everyone was freaking out 1123 00:54:09,430 --> 00:54:11,000 and they didn't know what to do. 1124 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,340 - So were you scared or? 1125 00:54:12,340 --> 00:54:14,497 - I actually had to call my mom to come get me 1126 00:54:14,497 --> 00:54:15,933 because I was scared. 1127 00:54:17,220 --> 00:54:18,920 - And did you go to a hospital or? 1128 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,860 - Yeah, got a little sick after 1129 00:54:20,860 --> 00:54:22,320 and they're like a little green 1130 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,413 and my mum take me to the hospital, I could barely breathe. 1131 00:54:26,580 --> 00:54:28,160 - Hi Leona. Yes. 1132 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:29,680 - David. - Nice to meet you David. 1133 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,280 Hey, we can go to the grade one classroom. 1134 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:33,650 - Okay, great. 1135 00:54:33,650 --> 00:54:35,960 Okay, this was really getting bad and in the school, 1136 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:36,793 you could just smell it. 1137 00:54:36,793 --> 00:54:38,363 - What did it smell like? 1138 00:54:39,830 --> 00:54:42,040 - I really bad gas like something like from, 1139 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:44,730 I dunno, rotten egg 1140 00:54:44,730 --> 00:54:47,387 or something but a lot of kids who are starting to say, 1141 00:54:47,387 --> 00:54:48,397 "I don't feel good. 1142 00:54:48,397 --> 00:54:51,427 "I'm getting dizzy and can you call my parent? 1143 00:54:51,427 --> 00:54:52,697 "Can you call my mom?" 1144 00:54:52,697 --> 00:54:54,667 I'm adding all together, 1145 00:54:54,667 --> 00:54:56,250 (inaudible chatter) 1146 00:54:56,250 --> 00:54:58,379 tune in to my meaning all together? 1147 00:54:58,379 --> 00:55:01,212 (dramatic sounds) 1148 00:55:03,240 --> 00:55:05,800 - They were 20 old kids affected. 1149 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,960 Five of them were transported to the ER in Fort McMurray. 1150 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,020 - What's the general response as a physician 1151 00:55:11,020 --> 00:55:12,060 when you come across somebody 1152 00:55:12,060 --> 00:55:13,970 who's been poisoned by ammonia? 1153 00:55:13,970 --> 00:55:16,760 - Ammonia or anhydrous ammonia is ammonic acid 1154 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:21,760 is very caustic, the symptoms can vary from mild irritation, 1155 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:23,970 nasal passage irritation 1156 00:55:23,970 --> 00:55:25,933 to more severe mucosal involved 1157 00:55:25,933 --> 00:55:28,940 that can involve the air way or lungs. 1158 00:55:28,940 --> 00:55:31,340 Generally respiratory support is needed. 1159 00:55:31,340 --> 00:55:34,470 So anything from very mild to quite severe 1160 00:55:34,470 --> 00:55:36,700 can use big expectation in the community 1161 00:55:36,700 --> 00:55:38,770 but will be more events 1162 00:55:38,770 --> 00:55:41,950 or process upsets as the industry likes to call them. 1163 00:55:41,950 --> 00:55:43,140 - Process upsets. 1164 00:55:43,140 --> 00:55:44,160 - Process upset, 1165 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:45,340 - Oh, wow. 1166 00:55:45,340 --> 00:55:48,690 - it's a dangerous industry as bringing so upsets 1167 00:55:48,690 --> 00:55:50,701 and what MacKay is right smacked up 1168 00:55:50,701 --> 00:55:52,051 in the middle of it, right. 1169 00:55:55,580 --> 00:55:56,930 - Who's responsible? 1170 00:55:56,930 --> 00:55:59,155 - Well, everybody can easily point at the plants. 1171 00:55:59,155 --> 00:56:01,240 Well, when you go back further, 1172 00:56:01,240 --> 00:56:03,840 who's giving these plants permission to operate? 1173 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,060 Who's setting the guidelines, who setting the parameters? 1174 00:56:07,060 --> 00:56:08,890 It's Provincial government. 1175 00:56:08,890 --> 00:56:10,170 - And who's buying the product? 1176 00:56:10,170 --> 00:56:11,460 - That's right and who's buying product 1177 00:56:11,460 --> 00:56:13,690 and then I'm driving a vehicle that's needs oil and gas? 1178 00:56:13,690 --> 00:56:15,470 I'm just as one to blame, 1179 00:56:15,470 --> 00:56:19,130 but it's got to be done in a very proactive, 1180 00:56:19,130 --> 00:56:22,713 measurable way where somehow it has to re-sustain itself. 1181 00:56:22,713 --> 00:56:24,310 (water bubble) 1182 00:56:24,310 --> 00:56:25,850 - This is really, I don't know, 1183 00:56:25,850 --> 00:56:27,180 it's just really disturbing. 1184 00:56:27,180 --> 00:56:32,180 I mean, the most disturbing part 1185 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,480 about it I think is, you know, how much of of this, 1186 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,480 I'm a part of this problem 1187 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,740 and you know, I got a letter in the mail the other day. 1188 00:56:40,740 --> 00:56:42,700 It was my mutual fund statement 1189 00:56:42,700 --> 00:56:45,270 and it told me I actually have holdings in these companies 1190 00:56:45,270 --> 00:56:48,320 that do this kind of stuff and you know, 1191 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,230 I burned a lot of oil to get up here. 1192 00:56:50,230 --> 00:56:51,670 I'm such a part of this problem, 1193 00:56:51,670 --> 00:56:53,760 but if I'm a part of this problem, 1194 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,540 converse, that means I'm also part of the solution. 1195 00:56:56,540 --> 00:57:01,130 And the ironic thing about this is that it happened 1196 00:57:01,130 --> 00:57:03,510 on April 28, 2006. 1197 00:57:03,510 --> 00:57:08,510 So that's two years to the day prior to the ducks incident, 1198 00:57:08,610 --> 00:57:10,060 I mean two years to the date. 1199 00:57:10,060 --> 00:57:12,150 That's not a coincidence. 1200 00:57:12,150 --> 00:57:15,100 That's the universe trying to tell us something. 1201 00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:16,900 - What are you going to do about it? 1202 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:19,370 - What am I gonna do? 1203 00:57:20,540 --> 00:57:24,020 well, I believe in the power of questions. 1204 00:57:24,020 --> 00:57:27,040 If you ask a person in a position of power, a question, 1205 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,390 it tells them that you are paying attention 1206 00:57:29,390 --> 00:57:30,410 to what they're doing. 1207 00:57:30,410 --> 00:57:31,930 When you pay attention to their behavior, 1208 00:57:31,930 --> 00:57:33,090 their behavior changes. 1209 00:57:33,090 --> 00:57:35,010 So I want to ask a question specifically 1210 00:57:35,010 --> 00:57:35,980 to Alberta Environment. 1211 00:57:35,980 --> 00:57:37,300 They're the ones that are responsible 1212 00:57:37,300 --> 00:57:38,670 for this kind of stuff. 1213 00:57:38,670 --> 00:57:40,570 Then I wanna ask What's the consequence 1214 00:57:40,570 --> 00:57:42,890 when you do this to kids in a school? 1215 00:57:42,890 --> 00:57:44,410 You know, what was the fine? 1216 00:57:44,410 --> 00:57:45,870 That's what I wanna know. 1217 00:57:45,870 --> 00:57:48,250 - Some instances, instances where these things occur, 1218 00:57:48,250 --> 00:57:50,890 best management practices were followed 1219 00:57:53,855 --> 00:57:56,170 where we tend where we tend 1220 00:57:56,170 --> 00:57:59,350 to get companies a severely fined 1221 00:57:59,350 --> 00:58:01,974 is when they fail to report, when-- 1222 00:58:01,974 --> 00:58:04,670 - That's management practices when you have ammonia coming 1223 00:58:04,670 --> 00:58:05,613 into a school? 1224 00:58:06,540 --> 00:58:07,780 - Yeah and here's the deal. 1225 00:58:07,780 --> 00:58:11,210 Some unforeseen event occurs, accident occurs 1226 00:58:11,210 --> 00:58:13,890 and your followup is done absolutely right. 1227 00:58:13,890 --> 00:58:15,337 Then you're gonna get probably 1228 00:58:15,337 --> 00:58:17,357 a much more lenient result. 1229 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,470 - Preston didn't clarify for me if a fine was issued. 1230 00:58:24,470 --> 00:58:26,480 So I called his colleague Jessica Potter 1231 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:27,970 at Alberta Environment. 1232 00:58:27,970 --> 00:58:30,417 - [Jessica] We issued an environmental protection notice 1233 00:58:30,417 --> 00:58:33,710 and they did everything to a satisfaction 1234 00:58:33,710 --> 00:58:35,140 to rectify the situation. 1235 00:58:35,140 --> 00:58:38,713 - what is the process for a company to actually get a fine? 1236 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,610 - [Jessica] We looks to Work, 1237 00:58:41,610 --> 00:58:43,741 education and prevention first. 1238 00:58:43,741 --> 00:58:44,894 - Okay. 1239 00:58:44,894 --> 00:58:48,500 - Then we, then from there we moved through, 1240 00:58:48,500 --> 00:58:52,446 there's a variety of steps that we can take 1241 00:58:52,446 --> 00:58:53,887 to view into compliant. 1242 00:58:53,887 --> 00:58:56,030 - Are you guys aware that this happened 1243 00:58:56,030 --> 00:58:57,500 to the elementary school? 1244 00:58:57,500 --> 00:58:59,770 - [Jessica] I actually need you to send me some more details 1245 00:58:59,770 --> 00:59:00,737 about what you are referring too. 1246 00:59:00,737 --> 00:59:04,620 - I mean it seems like a pretty important detail. 1247 00:59:04,620 --> 00:59:05,563 - [Jessica] Okay, you know-- - It's pretty serious. 1248 00:59:05,563 --> 00:59:07,930 - [Jessica] I'll tell you this isn't what the interview 1249 00:59:07,930 --> 00:59:10,410 is supposed to be about. 1250 00:59:10,410 --> 00:59:14,120 - Well, just like comparing it to society in general 1251 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:18,530 if I speed through a crosswalk at 140 kilometers an hour, 1252 00:59:18,530 --> 00:59:21,490 it just seems like this would be one 1253 00:59:21,490 --> 00:59:25,390 of those incidents that is far more serious that-- 1254 00:59:25,390 --> 00:59:27,147 - [Jessica] it was, there was an investigation. 1255 00:59:27,147 --> 00:59:28,360 that's what resulted 1256 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,400 with the environmental protection order. 1257 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,790 - So no fine, no penalty, no consequence. 1258 00:59:33,790 --> 00:59:36,900 Back in the 80s, I had a similar experience with this kind 1259 00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:37,760 of emission release. 1260 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,660 - [Reporter] On October 17, 1982, 1261 00:59:40,660 --> 00:59:45,090 the Amoco Dome Brazeau well 1312, 4812. 1262 00:59:45,090 --> 00:59:47,570 West of fifth Meridian experienced 1263 00:59:47,570 --> 00:59:49,880 an uncontrolled blow of gas 1264 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,670 or commonly called a blower. 1265 00:59:52,670 --> 00:59:55,040 This major well site incident became known 1266 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,243 as the blowout at lodgepole. 1267 00:59:58,710 --> 01:00:01,810 - The blood at Lodgepole was about 175 kilometers 1268 01:00:01,810 --> 01:00:03,190 from our house. 1269 01:00:03,190 --> 01:00:05,820 That week my father suffered to allergic reactions 1270 01:00:05,820 --> 01:00:09,200 to the hydrogen sulfide in the atmosphere and clung to life 1271 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,350 in the emergency room in Edmonton. 1272 01:00:11,350 --> 01:00:14,170 - [Reporter] The toxic gas blanketed the site. 1273 01:00:14,170 --> 01:00:15,500 This necessitated the use 1274 01:00:15,500 --> 01:00:19,120 of breathing apparatus which slowed and complicated to work. 1275 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,240 On many days, work was prevented entirely. 1276 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:23,870 - It's not easy to forget watching 1277 01:00:23,870 --> 01:00:25,516 your father struggled to breathe. 1278 01:00:25,516 --> 01:00:28,266 (dramatic music) 1279 01:00:38,134 --> 01:00:40,634 (door clings) 1280 01:00:47,043 --> 01:00:49,420 So about a year ago, I moved from Alberta 1281 01:00:49,420 --> 01:00:52,300 to British Columbia, but it appears as though the tar sands 1282 01:00:52,300 --> 01:00:53,770 have followed me here to BC. 1283 01:00:53,770 --> 01:00:55,140 There's a proposed pipeline. 1284 01:00:55,140 --> 01:00:57,600 It's called the Enbridge Northern Gateway Pipeline 1285 01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,330 and it's gonna go from Edmonton, my hometown, 1286 01:01:00,330 --> 01:01:04,000 all the way to Kitimat BC on the northern Pacific coast. 1287 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,670 There's a series of public consultation meetings called 1288 01:01:06,670 --> 01:01:09,560 the Joint Review Panel and in which they decide 1289 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,110 whether or not to approve this pipeline. 1290 01:01:11,110 --> 01:01:14,278 So just heading up there to check that out. 1291 01:01:14,278 --> 01:01:17,028 (dramatic music) 1292 01:01:23,744 --> 01:01:26,161 (Raven caws) 1293 01:01:33,736 --> 01:01:37,903 (people sings in native language) 1294 01:01:43,270 --> 01:01:47,483 - We have traveled to Kitimat from Bella Bella our village. 1295 01:01:48,620 --> 01:01:52,130 That communities are commercial fishing village. 1296 01:01:52,130 --> 01:01:55,813 We take our sustenance from the land and sea still today. 1297 01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:58,780 That is what is at risk. 1298 01:01:58,780 --> 01:02:03,780 We are not prepared to risk everything 1299 01:02:03,890 --> 01:02:05,133 and gain nothing. 1300 01:02:05,133 --> 01:02:06,816 (cloud applauds) 1301 01:02:06,816 --> 01:02:09,450 - I wanna say thank you the highest people 1302 01:02:09,450 --> 01:02:11,676 for having this on their traditional territory. 1303 01:02:11,676 --> 01:02:14,840 (cloud applauds) 1304 01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:18,680 I gotta say, it feels a bit like Deja Vu all over again. 1305 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,750 Hey, gotta get together every once in a while 1306 01:02:21,750 --> 01:02:23,457 because some motor head in Calgary he says, 1307 01:02:23,457 --> 01:02:25,437 "Hey, I've got an idea. 1308 01:02:25,437 --> 01:02:28,337 "Let's drill for coal bed methane up at the headwaters 1309 01:02:28,337 --> 01:02:30,230 "of all your major rivers." 1310 01:02:30,230 --> 01:02:33,500 And we all gotta get together and say, "No thanks". 1311 01:02:33,500 --> 01:02:35,070 Now Enbridge is shown up. 1312 01:02:35,070 --> 01:02:38,430 The idea that for 50 years, every year, 1313 01:02:38,430 --> 01:02:41,550 more than 250 of these massive ships are going to head out 1314 01:02:41,550 --> 01:02:46,550 of this port and not make one single mistake is lunacy, 1315 01:02:47,251 --> 01:02:48,310 - [Man shouts] Impossible. 1316 01:02:48,310 --> 01:02:52,300 - The idea that you can put an 1100 kilometer pipeline 1317 01:02:52,300 --> 01:02:55,110 from here across all those mountains 1318 01:02:55,110 --> 01:02:58,370 across all those rivers all the way to Alberta 1319 01:02:58,370 --> 01:03:02,300 and not have a major spill is idiocy. 1320 01:03:02,300 --> 01:03:05,670 The idea that you can double the size of the tar sands 1321 01:03:05,670 --> 01:03:08,030 and not have an impact on this poor old world 1322 01:03:08,030 --> 01:03:10,503 of ours is madness. 1323 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,520 - Northern Gateway pipeline for limited partnership applied 1324 01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:17,460 to the board. 1325 01:03:17,460 --> 01:03:19,610 They're looking for authorization to construct 1326 01:03:19,610 --> 01:03:22,790 and operate the Enbridge Northern Gateway Project. 1327 01:03:22,790 --> 01:03:27,790 - So we come here today to begin a process 1328 01:03:27,930 --> 01:03:32,010 that we have serious misgivings about 1329 01:03:32,010 --> 01:03:36,170 but what we don't have misgivings about is the support 1330 01:03:36,170 --> 01:03:39,933 from not only the Heiltsuk, 1331 01:03:39,933 --> 01:03:42,740 TSimshian including the Gitga'at. 1332 01:03:42,740 --> 01:03:45,880 The power is throughout this territory. 1333 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:49,560 I don't wear this flag or my shoulder lately. 1334 01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,580 It's a message that we are part of Canada. 1335 01:03:52,580 --> 01:03:55,883 I want to speak for Canadian because I am. 1336 01:03:57,540 --> 01:03:59,150 - [Narrator] for more than a thousand years 1337 01:03:59,150 --> 01:04:00,770 on the northwest coast 1338 01:04:00,770 --> 01:04:04,560 all life has revolved around the salmon economy. 1339 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:08,373 Today the focus is the fight to protect this heritage. 1340 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,100 - A few years ago we commissioned a study 1341 01:04:11,100 --> 01:04:14,090 through IBM consulting that looked at the value 1342 01:04:14,090 --> 01:04:16,510 of the wild salmon economy on the skin of watershed 1343 01:04:16,510 --> 01:04:19,500 and they came up with a figure of 110 million, 1344 01:04:19,500 --> 01:04:22,750 - So that's a significant dollar amount for people earning 1345 01:04:22,750 --> 01:04:23,770 their living up here. 1346 01:04:23,770 --> 01:04:26,830 - Yes, that's right and of course it's basic sustenance 1347 01:04:26,830 --> 01:04:29,630 for First Nation and also a lot of other residents 1348 01:04:29,630 --> 01:04:31,320 in the area, 1349 01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,260 - [Man] Jolly time in the old days 1350 01:04:33,260 --> 01:04:35,670 was describe as a dinner plate 1351 01:04:35,670 --> 01:04:40,210 of the Haida people and every territory along the coast. 1352 01:04:40,210 --> 01:04:43,510 These places exist and continue to exist in some areas 1353 01:04:43,510 --> 01:04:48,170 you've heard when the tide goes out our table is there, 1354 01:04:48,170 --> 01:04:50,723 that reality exists today. 1355 01:04:51,570 --> 01:04:54,090 - No one can guarantee us that there'll be no spills 1356 01:04:54,090 --> 01:04:56,340 if the panel recommends the project and in effect, 1357 01:04:56,340 --> 01:04:59,060 you are forcing us to live in fear ,300 days a year, 1358 01:04:59,060 --> 01:05:01,430 we're gonna wake up in the morning wondering 1359 01:05:01,430 --> 01:05:03,443 if this is the day our community dies. 1360 01:05:05,780 --> 01:05:08,910 - [Narrator] These threats to rivers are not hypothetical. 1361 01:05:08,910 --> 01:05:11,940 Three weeks before the Joint Review Panel meeting, 1362 01:05:11,940 --> 01:05:15,020 Enbridge spilled three point 3.3.000,000 liters 1363 01:05:15,020 --> 01:05:17,490 of bitumen crude from Northern Alberta 1364 01:05:17,490 --> 01:05:20,400 into the Kalamazoo River in Michigan. 1365 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,920 This isn't just a one time incident. 1366 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,100 There have been eight documented ruptures 1367 01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:29,850 from Enbridge's Canadian pipeline systems since 1992. 1368 01:05:29,850 --> 01:05:31,550 - [Man] It's been noted around the world. 1369 01:05:31,550 --> 01:05:35,510 Fifteen percent collection of oil is considered a success. 1370 01:05:35,510 --> 01:05:36,343 - [David] Fifteen percent 1371 01:05:36,343 --> 01:05:37,176 - one, five percent. 1372 01:05:37,176 --> 01:05:38,050 - [David] They call that success? 1373 01:05:38,050 --> 01:05:39,290 - They call that success. 1374 01:05:39,290 --> 01:05:41,060 And because of the difficulty to clean up. 1375 01:05:41,060 --> 01:05:43,590 The panel is going to take all these comments that they hear 1376 01:05:43,590 --> 01:05:47,760 and it will shape the next phase of the process. 1377 01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,150 - The National Energy Board rarely ever turns down 1378 01:05:50,150 --> 01:05:51,423 an energy project. 1379 01:05:52,300 --> 01:05:56,800 Their whole raison d'etre is to permit energy projects 1380 01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,070 - Has the National Energy Board 1381 01:05:58,070 --> 01:06:01,010 actually ever turned up down a pipeline. 1382 01:06:01,010 --> 01:06:03,760 - I'll have to get back to you about like how far back 1383 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,710 to find, you know, a pipeline that may have been rejected. 1384 01:06:07,710 --> 01:06:11,200 ♪ Pay there Mr Ticket, go look at my country. ♪ 1385 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,747 It's the Eden and the apple of my eye. 1386 01:06:16,661 --> 01:06:20,111 ♪ You come up from your office in the city. ♪ 1387 01:06:20,111 --> 01:06:24,511 ♪ I will meet you at the river by and by, ♪ 1388 01:06:24,511 --> 01:06:29,011 ♪I cannot let this pass me by, oo ooh ♪ 1389 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:31,890 - What I've learned on this journey 1390 01:06:31,890 --> 01:06:34,660 is that there is a triangle of concern with regards 1391 01:06:34,660 --> 01:06:38,780 to the tar sands. It extends from Inuvik to Hudson's bay 1392 01:06:38,780 --> 01:06:42,720 to the Pacific coast, over half of Canada's water. 1393 01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,303 (guitar plays) 1394 01:06:48,728 --> 01:06:53,536 ♪ Hey there Mr. Ticket, go look at my country. ♪ 1395 01:06:53,536 --> 01:06:56,460 (clouds applauds) 1396 01:06:56,460 --> 01:07:00,780 - We're locking cells into a 20th century energy system 1397 01:07:00,780 --> 01:07:03,910 on the cusp of a transition to a new energy system. 1398 01:07:03,910 --> 01:07:06,190 And while yes you and I both drove our cars here, 1399 01:07:06,190 --> 01:07:09,260 fueled with oil which has probably got a genesis 1400 01:07:09,260 --> 01:07:10,850 from the tar sands, there's no need 1401 01:07:10,850 --> 01:07:12,880 for that twenty years from now. 1402 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:16,040 We can transform our vehicles stock 1403 01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:17,640 in North America in 10 years 1404 01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,290 if we really put our minds to it. 1405 01:07:22,150 --> 01:07:24,870 - Little did I know that my innocent journey of following 1406 01:07:24,870 --> 01:07:28,190 a drop of water would lead me into such darkness 1407 01:07:28,190 --> 01:07:31,050 but honestly I cannot think of a more useless emotion 1408 01:07:31,050 --> 01:07:34,990 than despair, I needed more, I needed hope, 1409 01:07:34,990 --> 01:07:37,710 So I went to Pincher Creek, a southern Alberta region, 1410 01:07:37,710 --> 01:07:39,600 sculpted by the winds. 1411 01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:43,340 Here the trees have adapted to the wind by growing into it. 1412 01:07:43,340 --> 01:07:46,093 I wonder can human beings do the same? 1413 01:07:46,998 --> 01:07:49,581 (engine roars) 1414 01:07:56,100 --> 01:07:58,720 Ironically, in order to get a sneak preview 1415 01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,230 into Canada's potential energy future, 1416 01:08:01,230 --> 01:08:03,440 I had to go back in time. 1417 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,550 This Hutterite community is embracing a new paradigm 1418 01:08:06,550 --> 01:08:10,440 of how we can produce use and distributed energy. 1419 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,470 Mike Gross is one of the elders community. 1420 01:08:13,470 --> 01:08:15,943 - We voluntarily have half of it light us all 1421 01:08:15,943 --> 01:08:18,960 - Tell me about the colony, how big is it? 1422 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,330 - We are about 125 people. 1423 01:08:21,330 --> 01:08:22,845 We are Anabaptist. 1424 01:08:22,845 --> 01:08:24,313 - Anabaptist? 1425 01:08:24,313 --> 01:08:25,640 - Anabaptist - Okay. 1426 01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:27,109 - From 1500. 1427 01:08:27,109 --> 01:08:28,398 - 1,500 from a long time ago. 1428 01:08:28,398 --> 01:08:30,010 - From a long time ago, yeah 1429 01:08:30,010 --> 01:08:31,720 and we've been living in a community way 1430 01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:33,550 of life ever since. 1431 01:08:33,550 --> 01:08:36,189 We are all with for something that's new out there. 1432 01:08:36,189 --> 01:08:39,580 We wanna be the first ones to to try anything 1433 01:08:39,580 --> 01:08:42,760 that's new out there and that's why we were the first ones 1434 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,023 to put up windmills. 1435 01:08:45,180 --> 01:08:49,810 These 60 windmills, they produce enough power 1436 01:08:50,919 --> 01:08:53,846 to a light and heat and 17,000 homes. 1437 01:08:55,649 --> 01:08:57,323 - 17,000? - 17,000 homes. 1438 01:08:57,323 --> 01:08:58,162 - With just These? 1439 01:08:58,162 --> 01:08:59,740 - Yes, these 60 windmills. 1440 01:08:59,740 --> 01:09:00,573 - Wow, yeah. 1441 01:09:00,573 --> 01:09:01,406 - For a year. 1442 01:09:01,406 --> 01:09:02,490 - For a year. - Yeah. 1443 01:09:06,210 --> 01:09:08,040 - Turbines in this area are considered 1444 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:09,810 a second cash crop for farmers 1445 01:09:09,810 --> 01:09:12,510 and ranchers which in some cases actually helped 1446 01:09:12,510 --> 01:09:15,890 the family survive current economic times. 1447 01:09:15,890 --> 01:09:17,960 One farmer told me that the average income 1448 01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,817 for having wind turbines on your land is between 50 1449 01:09:20,817 --> 01:09:24,910 and $75,000 per quarter section of land per year. 1450 01:09:24,910 --> 01:09:28,540 This industry also creates high skilled jobs in rural areas 1451 01:09:28,540 --> 01:09:31,540 and provides the local municipality with 20 percent 1452 01:09:31,540 --> 01:09:36,080 of its total tax revenues benefiting all of its residents. 1453 01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:39,220 - The what the turbines are doing for the farmers, 1454 01:09:39,220 --> 01:09:42,670 they are putting a little gravy on the potatoes. 1455 01:09:42,670 --> 01:09:43,899 That's what an amount to. 1456 01:09:43,899 --> 01:09:46,100 There's a nice little income from 'em. 1457 01:09:46,100 --> 01:09:49,180 - So we've seen a real revitalization of a sector 1458 01:09:49,180 --> 01:09:51,960 of our economy that might otherwise who disappeared. 1459 01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,420 - So it's almost like instead of food versus oil, 1460 01:09:54,420 --> 01:09:56,423 it's wind for food. 1461 01:09:57,860 --> 01:10:01,100 - Yeah and it's a new approach to a local ownership 1462 01:10:01,100 --> 01:10:04,110 of power production as opposed to having all 1463 01:10:04,110 --> 01:10:05,900 of that power literally 1464 01:10:05,900 --> 01:10:07,830 and figuratively concentrated in the hands 1465 01:10:07,830 --> 01:10:08,890 of a bigger company 1466 01:10:08,890 --> 01:10:11,150 who's more remote and doing their own thing 1467 01:10:11,150 --> 01:10:13,640 and oftentimes the benefits aren't coming 1468 01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:14,910 into the community. 1469 01:10:14,910 --> 01:10:17,040 - So it's kind of like a win-win situation 1470 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:18,672 for your community. - it's win-win situation. 1471 01:10:18,672 --> 01:10:20,973 It's nice to win - Wind, wind situation. 1472 01:10:20,973 --> 01:10:21,930 (David laughs) 1473 01:10:21,930 --> 01:10:23,000 - Yeah. - Yeah. 1474 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,650 Do you know where all the power is going? 1475 01:10:25,650 --> 01:10:29,980 - This lift power is going to the see trains in Calgary. 1476 01:10:29,980 --> 01:10:31,470 Oh, okay, the see trains in Calgary? 1477 01:10:31,470 --> 01:10:32,790 - Yeah. - Oh Wow. 1478 01:10:32,790 --> 01:10:35,650 Calgary, Alberta, the nerve center of Canada's oil 1479 01:10:35,650 --> 01:10:37,240 and gas industry. 1480 01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,190 It's where the prime minister of Canada home riding is. 1481 01:10:40,190 --> 01:10:42,940 It's where all the major oil companies are located 1482 01:10:42,940 --> 01:10:44,870 and it's where those companies make decisions 1483 01:10:44,870 --> 01:10:46,440 about the tar sands. 1484 01:10:46,440 --> 01:10:49,393 It's a city bubbling over with gold rush euphoria. 1485 01:10:50,270 --> 01:10:51,340 If I could find hope 1486 01:10:51,340 --> 01:10:54,200 for a water friendly energy future here, 1487 01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:55,693 then I could find anywhere. 1488 01:10:58,377 --> 01:11:00,794 (bell rings) 1489 01:11:02,407 --> 01:11:04,907 (train zooms) 1490 01:11:08,971 --> 01:11:10,360 - Hey, how is going? - I'm all right. 1491 01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,280 Chris Turner wrote a book called the Geography of Hope. 1492 01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,700 He had traveled around the world looking for signs 1493 01:11:15,700 --> 01:11:17,790 of hope for a sustainable future 1494 01:11:17,790 --> 01:11:20,610 and had found more hope than he ever thought possible. 1495 01:11:20,610 --> 01:11:22,393 He even found some here at home. 1496 01:11:23,270 --> 01:11:25,840 I've been on this journey for the last three years 1497 01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:29,730 and I've heard about some pretty intensely negative stuff. 1498 01:11:29,730 --> 01:11:33,610 So I'm feeling a bit feeling a bit of despair actually. 1499 01:11:33,610 --> 01:11:36,880 So, but you had a very different experience. 1500 01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:38,590 You went around the world looking for solutions 1501 01:11:38,590 --> 01:11:40,760 and success that the world is having. 1502 01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,440 So what gives you hope for the future? 1503 01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:45,560 - Well, probably in the short answer 1504 01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,410 is that we have already built all the tools we need 1505 01:11:48,410 --> 01:11:49,960 to end the age of fossil fuels. 1506 01:11:50,890 --> 01:11:53,670 And, the really encouraging thing is that anywhere you go, 1507 01:11:53,670 --> 01:11:55,120 where they'd begun this transition, 1508 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,080 they found not only can they reduce the dependence 1509 01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:01,180 on fossil fuels and reduce their carbon dioxide emissions, 1510 01:12:01,180 --> 01:12:02,013 but that these tools, 1511 01:12:02,013 --> 01:12:04,210 these decentralized power generation, 1512 01:12:04,210 --> 01:12:06,850 renewable power generation actually enhance the quality 1513 01:12:06,850 --> 01:12:08,480 of life in the places where they use them anyway. 1514 01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:09,860 So it's not just a question of going 1515 01:12:09,860 --> 01:12:12,290 without conventional fuel sources. 1516 01:12:12,290 --> 01:12:16,570 We don't want to be wedded to a giant coal plan 1517 01:12:16,570 --> 01:12:17,403 very far away. 1518 01:12:17,403 --> 01:12:18,827 The only people who profit from a coal plant 1519 01:12:18,827 --> 01:12:20,490 are the people on the coal plant. 1520 01:12:20,490 --> 01:12:22,480 Everyone else needs electricity but we don't care 1521 01:12:22,480 --> 01:12:24,940 where it comes from and if we can be directly involved 1522 01:12:24,940 --> 01:12:25,773 in producing it, 1523 01:12:25,773 --> 01:12:30,160 I think it's just an enormously appealing prospect 1524 01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:30,993 for most people. 1525 01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,300 - So how do you produce your own power? 1526 01:12:34,300 --> 01:12:36,220 Chris told me about a community just south 1527 01:12:36,220 --> 01:12:38,180 of Calgary called Drake Landing 1528 01:12:38,180 --> 01:12:40,093 where we had begun this transition. 1529 01:12:48,260 --> 01:12:49,400 I wonder how much money you save 1530 01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:52,086 on your hot water heating bill with this. 1531 01:12:52,086 --> 01:12:55,110 (water gushes) 1532 01:12:55,110 --> 01:12:57,500 Carpets need a pump bottles. 1533 01:12:57,500 --> 01:12:59,430 A low flow shower head up 1534 01:12:59,430 --> 01:13:01,700 to 40 percent water savings. 1535 01:13:01,700 --> 01:13:03,850 I think we need one of these up in the plants 1536 01:13:03,850 --> 01:13:04,750 in Fort McMurray. 1537 01:13:04,750 --> 01:13:08,570 - Yeah, some of the thinking that that's going on right now 1538 01:13:08,570 --> 01:13:12,210 is around a grid where alight your electric vehicle 1539 01:13:12,210 --> 01:13:14,300 might actually become both something 1540 01:13:14,300 --> 01:13:16,250 that draws from the power grid when you need 1541 01:13:16,250 --> 01:13:18,460 to charge your battery, if they're going to go dry 1542 01:13:18,460 --> 01:13:21,790 but it could also be a supply of energy back into the grid. 1543 01:13:21,790 --> 01:13:24,370 - So that's a wind power rough in, so I can plug 1544 01:13:24,370 --> 01:13:27,290 in my electric car and get electricity 1545 01:13:27,290 --> 01:13:31,260 from the wind turbines on my roof, brilliant. 1546 01:13:31,260 --> 01:13:34,110 I never have to go to a gas station again. 1547 01:13:34,110 --> 01:13:35,560 You read in newspapers 1548 01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:37,020 like the financial post or something. 1549 01:13:37,020 --> 01:13:39,950 You know, it's gonna be total chaos 1550 01:13:39,950 --> 01:13:41,250 if we switched to renew, 1551 01:13:41,250 --> 01:13:44,390 the whole economy is gonna collapse. 1552 01:13:44,390 --> 01:13:46,663 How do you argue that? 1553 01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:48,870 - Well, again, I think you just say, 1554 01:13:48,870 --> 01:13:50,560 how have you been to northern Europe lately? 1555 01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:52,630 Does it look like chaos, does it look like calamity? 1556 01:13:52,630 --> 01:13:55,570 The only thing, the only thing that has hurt the economy 1557 01:13:55,570 --> 01:13:56,510 of Germany for example, 1558 01:13:56,510 --> 01:13:58,630 and I've been hearing for almost 10 years now, 1559 01:13:58,630 --> 01:14:00,200 the Germany was gonna tank it's economy 1560 01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,240 with the commitment that are made to renewables. 1561 01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:05,120 The only thing that really hurt the German economy 1562 01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:06,940 was the financial chaos unleashed 1563 01:14:06,940 --> 01:14:09,790 by the same brilliant economic minds who are telling us 1564 01:14:09,790 --> 01:14:11,650 that it would be chaos to commit to renewables. 1565 01:14:11,650 --> 01:14:15,470 So, I mean the those people have no credibility. 1566 01:14:15,470 --> 01:14:17,260 They haven't looked seriously at the problem. 1567 01:14:17,260 --> 01:14:20,670 They are looking for reasons to extend a status quo 1568 01:14:20,670 --> 01:14:23,050 that benefits them, but we'd also have to recognize 1569 01:14:23,050 --> 01:14:25,770 the societies when those interests are no longer all 1570 01:14:25,770 --> 01:14:27,770 of our interests and to say, 1571 01:14:27,770 --> 01:14:30,590 it's okay if the fossil fuel industry suffers. 1572 01:14:30,590 --> 01:14:32,980 They've prospered for very, very long time. 1573 01:14:32,980 --> 01:14:34,470 It might be time for them 1574 01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:37,390 to not be the most prosperous sector of our economy 1575 01:14:37,390 --> 01:14:40,190 - A lot of people would say that this renewable energy 1576 01:14:40,190 --> 01:14:41,610 is completely utopic. 1577 01:14:41,610 --> 01:14:43,210 What do you say to people like that? 1578 01:14:43,210 --> 01:14:46,530 - I think there were probably skeptics who said 1579 01:14:46,530 --> 01:14:49,270 that your utopia of wildcatters running 1580 01:14:49,270 --> 01:14:52,140 around striking gushers of oil, you know 1581 01:14:52,140 --> 01:14:55,240 that was utopic and and yet we saw a very rapid transition 1582 01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,200 to oil becoming the predominant source of fuel 1583 01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,050 for our entire transportation system. 1584 01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,290 - In a place like Alberta, you have to be pretty committed 1585 01:15:03,290 --> 01:15:05,870 and altruistic to put solar panels on your roof. 1586 01:15:05,870 --> 01:15:07,570 It's gonna be a long time before you get them. 1587 01:15:07,570 --> 01:15:09,470 They will eventually over the life of the system all 1588 01:15:09,470 --> 01:15:11,940 by themselves pay that off but if you put it in something 1589 01:15:11,940 --> 01:15:13,790 like a feed in tariff like they have in Germany, 1590 01:15:13,790 --> 01:15:17,740 you're looking at like five/seven years where you paid off 1591 01:15:17,740 --> 01:15:19,970 the cost of the system and you're actually profiting 1592 01:15:19,970 --> 01:15:22,680 from this investment and so the feed and tariff just puts 1593 01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:26,270 a higher price in the marketplace on renewable sources. 1594 01:15:26,270 --> 01:15:28,590 - Germany gets 20% of its energy 1595 01:15:28,590 --> 01:15:30,300 from renewable sources. 1596 01:15:30,300 --> 01:15:32,670 In Canada just one percent. 1597 01:15:32,670 --> 01:15:34,620 Clearly we have some catching up to do. 1598 01:15:36,020 --> 01:15:39,290 - One of the things we forget is there are no open markets, 1599 01:15:39,290 --> 01:15:40,630 not one anywhere in the world. 1600 01:15:40,630 --> 01:15:43,550 We have tilted these things and manipulated them to do 1601 01:15:43,550 --> 01:15:45,740 what we decided to wanted them to do it. 1602 01:15:45,740 --> 01:15:47,410 - Boy, he wasn't kidding. 1603 01:15:47,410 --> 01:15:50,150 The auditor general of Canada produced a report saying 1604 01:15:50,150 --> 01:15:53,300 that 1.5 billion dollars per year is the gift 1605 01:15:53,300 --> 01:15:56,150 that Canadian taxpayers give to the tar sands. 1606 01:15:56,150 --> 01:15:58,150 Could we maybe put that money elsewhere? 1607 01:15:59,260 --> 01:16:02,740 - All we need to do is go back in and kinda reject the rules 1608 01:16:02,740 --> 01:16:05,600 which we created ourselves anyway to favor 1609 01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,000 the energy sources we want and not the ones 1610 01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,230 that are exhausting our ability 1611 01:16:10,230 --> 01:16:11,910 to live the lodge to win these. 1612 01:16:11,910 --> 01:16:14,140 - We now need to see that same kind of government support 1613 01:16:14,140 --> 01:16:17,290 for renewable energy so that it can compete 1614 01:16:17,290 --> 01:16:19,680 and ultimately overtake forms of power generation 1615 01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,280 that are no longer consistent with what we need to do 1616 01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:23,143 to address climate change. 1617 01:16:23,143 --> 01:16:25,600 - So we have to end the age of fossil fuel 1618 01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,150 not because the people who are involved 1619 01:16:28,150 --> 01:16:29,770 in that business are wrong. 1620 01:16:29,770 --> 01:16:31,860 They are providing us with an essential service that we need 1621 01:16:31,860 --> 01:16:35,010 to make that transition but because it's time has come 1622 01:16:35,010 --> 01:16:37,540 and we've seen the full impact of it. 1623 01:16:37,540 --> 01:16:40,090 - [David] Any words of advice for how to communicate 1624 01:16:40,090 --> 01:16:40,923 this to people, 1625 01:16:40,923 --> 01:16:45,100 - I think it's important to point out the scale 1626 01:16:45,100 --> 01:16:47,450 of the problem we've created, but I don't think 1627 01:16:47,450 --> 01:16:49,860 that we're going to get where we need to go. 1628 01:16:49,860 --> 01:16:52,300 using that old kind of environmental activist model 1629 01:16:52,300 --> 01:16:54,037 of saying, "here's the problem, stop it. 1630 01:16:54,037 --> 01:16:55,950 "Let's protest it until it stops." 1631 01:16:55,950 --> 01:16:58,670 Having identified the problem that got you motivated. 1632 01:16:58,670 --> 01:17:00,980 the important thing that could take to the next step 1633 01:17:00,980 --> 01:17:02,930 is that you don't just wanna talk about the problem. 1634 01:17:02,930 --> 01:17:04,870 You wanna talk about the world 1635 01:17:04,870 --> 01:17:07,490 you'd like to see what that problem is no longer in it. 1636 01:17:07,490 --> 01:17:11,810 That worldview needs to broad enough that it can welcome 1637 01:17:11,810 --> 01:17:12,710 just about anyone. 1638 01:17:14,330 --> 01:17:16,571 - What do you wanna be when you grow up? 1639 01:17:16,571 --> 01:17:18,771 - I wanna be a pilot 1640 01:17:18,771 --> 01:17:19,643 - A pilot? 1641 01:17:19,643 --> 01:17:21,300 - A pilot or a pilate? 1642 01:17:21,300 --> 01:17:25,120 - I want to do a pilot then drive the aeroplane. 1643 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:26,810 - Oh an airplane. 1644 01:17:26,810 --> 01:17:27,663 - Oh yeah. 1645 01:17:27,663 --> 01:17:28,570 (girl laughs) 1646 01:17:28,570 --> 01:17:31,003 - Will you're playing have algae oil in it. 1647 01:17:32,530 --> 01:17:34,099 - Maybe it'll be a glider. 1648 01:17:34,099 --> 01:17:34,932 (David laughs) 1649 01:17:34,932 --> 01:17:36,956 What is algae little baby? 1650 01:17:36,956 --> 01:17:39,180 I don't even know what oil is. 1651 01:17:39,180 --> 01:17:41,847 - I don't even know what oil is. 1652 01:17:43,072 --> 01:17:44,776 - Oil is kinda of dirty. 1653 01:17:44,776 --> 01:17:45,609 - Yeah. 1654 01:17:46,915 --> 01:17:49,415 (birds chirp) 1655 01:17:54,650 --> 01:17:57,700 - Finally upon that is not a tailings 1656 01:18:00,570 --> 01:18:05,570 ♪ I became a thin blue flame ♪ 1657 01:18:07,742 --> 01:18:12,742 ♪ polished on the mountain range ♪ 1658 01:18:14,984 --> 01:18:19,984 ♪ and all the hills and fields I flew ♪ 1659 01:18:22,544 --> 01:18:25,930 ♪ wrapped up in royal blue. ♪ 1660 01:18:25,930 --> 01:18:28,210 - [David] John Muir said it best. 1661 01:18:28,210 --> 01:18:30,620 Anytime you try to pick anything up, 1662 01:18:30,620 --> 01:18:33,617 you find it hitched to everything else in the universe. 1663 01:18:33,617 --> 01:18:36,918 ♪ I run three sisters in the flush of a land. ♪ 1664 01:18:36,918 --> 01:18:40,545 ♪ The lake was a dime and then the valleys held ♪ 1665 01:18:40,545 --> 01:18:41,552 ♪ I wondered what it was. ♪ 1666 01:18:41,552 --> 01:18:44,109 ♪ I've been for above ♪ 1667 01:18:44,109 --> 01:18:47,109 ♪ Having some big bearing no mediocre ♪ 1668 01:18:47,109 --> 01:18:50,661 ♪ So I stopped looking for royal cities in the air. ♪ 1669 01:18:50,661 --> 01:18:55,328 ♪ Only a full house gonna have a player ♪ 1670 01:18:58,220 --> 01:19:00,610 - [Narrator] The question remains, 1671 01:19:00,610 --> 01:19:05,380 will Canadians bridged the gap between white water 1672 01:19:05,380 --> 01:19:06,760 and black gold? 1673 01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,343 (upbeat music) 1674 01:19:17,754 --> 01:19:22,754 ♪ If the blow a hole in backyard ♪ 1675 01:19:22,923 --> 01:19:27,763 ♪ Everyone is gonna run away ♪ 1676 01:19:27,763 --> 01:19:32,134 ♪ And the creeks won't flow to the lake below ♪ 1677 01:19:32,134 --> 01:19:33,850 ♪ Will the water in the world ♪ 1678 01:19:33,850 --> 01:19:38,690 ♪ Still be okay ♪ 1679 01:19:38,690 --> 01:19:43,311 ♪ If they blow a hole back bone ♪ 1680 01:19:43,311 --> 01:19:48,311 ♪ The one that run across the muscle of the land ♪ 1681 01:19:48,401 --> 01:19:53,012 ♪ Oh we might get a low storm for the road, ♪ 1682 01:19:53,012 --> 01:19:58,012 ♪ But I don't know how much longer we can stand ♪ 1683 01:20:00,261 --> 01:20:05,261 ♪ We'll need to bear some new car ♪ 1684 01:20:08,752 --> 01:20:13,752 ♪ And I know we gonna have ♪ 1685 01:20:13,778 --> 01:20:17,898 ♪ to fix the road ♪ 1686 01:20:17,898 --> 01:20:20,986 ♪ But if we blow ♪ 1687 01:20:20,986 --> 01:20:25,986 ♪ another hole in sky ♪ 1688 01:20:27,835 --> 01:20:32,212 ♪ The wild ones won't have ♪ 1689 01:20:32,212 --> 01:20:34,962 ♪ anywhere to go ♪ 1690 01:20:46,346 --> 01:20:51,346 ♪ If they blow a hole in my backyard ♪ 1691 01:20:51,466 --> 01:20:55,753 ♪ Everyone is gonna run away ♪ 1692 01:20:55,753 --> 01:21:00,258 ♪ And the creeks won't flow to the lake below ♪ 1693 01:21:00,258 --> 01:21:05,258 ♪ Will the water in the well still get a care ♪ 1694 01:21:07,716 --> 01:21:11,978 ♪ We'll keep driving ♪ 1695 01:21:11,978 --> 01:21:16,164 ♪ on the blind line ♪ 1696 01:21:16,164 --> 01:21:19,658 ♪ If we don't know ♪ 1697 01:21:19,658 --> 01:21:24,658 ♪ where we wanna go ♪ 1698 01:21:25,567 --> 01:21:30,501 ♪ Even now it's just sound ♪ 1699 01:21:30,501 --> 01:21:35,501 ♪ Can get water down ♪ 1700 01:21:36,024 --> 01:21:39,470 ♪ Truth get tossed out down ♪ 1701 01:21:39,470 --> 01:21:44,470 ♪ the car window ♪ 1702 01:21:45,440 --> 01:21:50,440 ♪ Truth get tossed out the car window ♪ 1703 01:21:54,803 --> 01:21:59,475 ♪ Choose that water ♪ 1704 01:21:59,475 --> 01:22:04,475 ♪ Until we really need the sun ♪ 1705 01:22:06,141 --> 01:22:11,141 ♪ shower soil and sea ♪ 1706 01:22:13,407 --> 01:22:17,848 ♪ Choose that water ♪ 1707 01:22:17,848 --> 01:22:21,923 ♪ The aquaforce provide ♪ 1708 01:22:21,923 --> 01:22:25,340 ♪ Deep down in the rock ♪ 128321

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