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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,288 --> 00:00:01,847 So, have you spoken to your dad again? 2 00:00:01,848 --> 00:00:04,287 - No. Spoke to a lawyer, though. - A lawyer? 3 00:00:04,288 --> 00:00:05,687 I can't lose this anger, John. 4 00:00:05,688 --> 00:00:09,407 First theory - a chase that went accidentally wrong. 5 00:00:09,408 --> 00:00:12,247 Second theory - this was a very violent murder. 6 00:00:12,248 --> 00:00:15,208 - What if they find out about the pub? - They won't find out about the pub. 7 00:00:15,209 --> 00:00:16,567 They might find out everything. 8 00:00:16,568 --> 00:00:19,287 They said I was speeding. I killed a child. 9 00:00:19,288 --> 00:00:21,007 If that blood test had come back positive, 10 00:00:21,008 --> 00:00:23,807 - Fiona Grayson would be in jail. - It was lost. 11 00:00:23,808 --> 00:00:26,727 Three weeks before Matthew disappeared, he committed an ABH 12 00:00:26,728 --> 00:00:28,087 on Ram Sidhu. 13 00:00:28,088 --> 00:00:30,448 I've been trying to speak to you for the last 24 hours, Ram. 14 00:00:30,449 --> 00:00:32,127 I'm doing a blood test in an hour. 15 00:00:32,128 --> 00:00:34,407 You never told me the police had interviewed you. 16 00:00:34,408 --> 00:00:37,767 - I can't take the secrets and lies. - We will do this, but not now. 17 00:00:37,768 --> 00:00:40,408 - I think we pull Sidhu in now. - You don't think we should wait... 18 00:00:40,409 --> 00:00:41,887 No. Let's get him in now, please. 19 00:00:41,888 --> 00:00:44,527 A witness comes out 30 years after the event and says 20 00:00:44,528 --> 00:00:46,567 he saw an Asian guy, are you serious? 21 00:00:46,568 --> 00:00:48,488 - I think we're done here. - I just want it over. 22 00:00:48,489 --> 00:00:49,609 I shouldn't even be here. 23 00:00:59,848 --> 00:01:02,967 ♪ All we do is hide away 24 00:01:02,968 --> 00:01:07,327 ♪ All we do is, All we do is hide away 25 00:01:07,328 --> 00:01:11,327 ♪ All we do is lie and wait 26 00:01:11,328 --> 00:01:14,807 ♪ All we do is, All we do is lie and wait 27 00:01:14,808 --> 00:01:18,687 ♪ I've been upside down 28 00:01:18,688 --> 00:01:22,367 ♪ I don't wanna be The right way round 29 00:01:22,368 --> 00:01:26,088 ♪ Can't find paradise On the ground. ♪ 30 00:02:10,728 --> 00:02:12,567 - Murray's found our landlady. - Monty? 31 00:02:12,568 --> 00:02:14,047 Lovely Monty. 32 00:02:14,048 --> 00:02:16,287 - She's alive? - Very much so, apparently. 33 00:02:16,288 --> 00:02:18,767 - He's seeing her in the morning. - Nice one. 34 00:02:18,768 --> 00:02:21,327 You look knackered, boss. 35 00:02:21,328 --> 00:02:23,607 - Thank you. - I meant "go home". 36 00:02:23,608 --> 00:02:25,047 I'm trying. 37 00:02:25,048 --> 00:02:26,647 Oh, Guy, sorry... 38 00:02:26,648 --> 00:02:30,047 You know the documents thing for Dean Barton? 39 00:02:30,048 --> 00:02:33,487 - Turns out he changed his surname. - Wow. When and why? 40 00:02:33,488 --> 00:02:35,847 About three months before he applied to Hendon. OK. 41 00:02:35,848 --> 00:02:39,607 Changed it by deed poll. His real name is Dean Quinn. 42 00:02:39,608 --> 00:02:43,007 I'll run it through PNC, maybe that'll tell us why. 43 00:02:43,008 --> 00:02:45,167 Good stuff. Let me know if you get anything. 44 00:02:45,168 --> 00:02:46,288 Yeah. Night, boss. 45 00:02:47,248 --> 00:02:49,647 This is why you changed your mind? 46 00:02:49,648 --> 00:02:52,687 Because you think you might be in jail on a murder charge? 47 00:02:52,688 --> 00:02:56,087 Listen. First of all, I didn't do anything. 48 00:02:56,088 --> 00:02:58,807 If you didn't do anything, why do you look so scared? 49 00:02:58,808 --> 00:03:01,807 Oh, why am I ever scared when I'm getting investigated, Anna? 50 00:03:01,808 --> 00:03:05,687 - What murder? Who? Where? - It was three decades ago. 51 00:03:05,688 --> 00:03:08,087 They have no evidence, and like I said, 52 00:03:08,088 --> 00:03:09,767 - I didn't do anything. - Who? 53 00:03:09,768 --> 00:03:11,647 Some... 54 00:03:11,648 --> 00:03:14,447 small time drug dealer. They found his preserved body 55 00:03:14,448 --> 00:03:16,007 - a week or so ago. - I saw that story. 56 00:03:16,008 --> 00:03:18,367 OK, so... 57 00:03:18,368 --> 00:03:21,127 This weird connection between the victim 58 00:03:21,128 --> 00:03:22,927 - and a car I was in. - A real connection? 59 00:03:22,928 --> 00:03:24,568 - Yeah, but... - What connection?! 60 00:03:25,888 --> 00:03:28,488 They think his body was in the back of the car. 61 00:03:30,608 --> 00:03:32,087 Oh, my God. 62 00:03:32,088 --> 00:03:35,448 But if it was, I had no idea. And I swear... 63 00:03:36,888 --> 00:03:41,448 ...Anna, I had nothing to do with any murder. 64 00:03:47,088 --> 00:03:52,487 But, yes, I am scared, as always, because I'm a problem for them, 65 00:03:52,488 --> 00:03:54,807 always have been, and I genuinely believe 66 00:03:54,808 --> 00:03:56,648 they could use this to get rid of me for good. 67 00:04:00,888 --> 00:04:02,368 I don't know, Ram. 68 00:04:03,767 --> 00:04:05,607 I just know this is one more thing to cope with 69 00:04:05,608 --> 00:04:08,088 at the hardest moment of my entire life. 70 00:04:09,208 --> 00:04:11,248 PHONE RINGS 71 00:04:17,554 --> 00:04:18,554 Caz. 72 00:04:18,555 --> 00:04:21,007 So I've found nothing for Dean Quinn, 73 00:04:21,008 --> 00:04:23,487 but lots for a Peter Quinn. 74 00:04:23,488 --> 00:04:25,807 Date of birth 1949, 75 00:04:25,808 --> 00:04:28,207 with his birth certificate detailing him having four sons, 76 00:04:28,208 --> 00:04:29,487 with one of them called Dean. 77 00:04:29,488 --> 00:04:32,567 Mm. And when you say "lots"? 78 00:04:32,568 --> 00:04:36,807 Drugs, prostitution, extortion, lots of violence. 79 00:04:36,808 --> 00:04:38,527 I mean, he's spent half his life inside. 80 00:04:38,528 --> 00:04:40,727 Jesus. How was the father's record not spotted? 81 00:04:40,728 --> 00:04:42,927 Yeah, well, the name change obviously helped. 82 00:04:42,928 --> 00:04:46,007 But Dean's application wasn't sent from the family home address either, 83 00:04:46,008 --> 00:04:48,207 so he was obviously trying to avoid just that. 84 00:04:48,208 --> 00:04:50,687 But it wasn't just the father at it, either. 85 00:04:50,688 --> 00:04:52,967 Two of Dean's brothers have long records as well, 86 00:04:52,968 --> 00:04:55,608 - so it's clearly a family business. - Hm. 87 00:04:57,608 --> 00:04:59,528 OK, good work, Caz. 88 00:05:00,968 --> 00:05:04,688 - Now, go home. G'night. - Night, boss. 89 00:05:14,128 --> 00:05:16,527 What do you mean you're not gonna let me in? 90 00:05:16,528 --> 00:05:18,567 I don't want you to talk to him in this mood. 91 00:05:18,568 --> 00:05:21,447 - What mood? I'm not in any mood. - You're angry, again. 92 00:05:21,448 --> 00:05:23,447 No. No, I'm not. But if I was, it would be because 93 00:05:23,448 --> 00:05:26,247 a woman I hardly know is stopping me from seeing my own father. No. 94 00:05:26,248 --> 00:05:28,567 I mean, I'm sure you'd prefer if I never saw him again, 95 00:05:28,568 --> 00:05:29,967 - SO you can... - So I can what? 96 00:05:29,968 --> 00:05:33,288 Oh, seriously, just let me in, you absolute... Go home, Cass. 97 00:05:34,688 --> 00:05:37,887 Jen is simply trying to protect me because she knows 98 00:05:37,888 --> 00:05:40,888 that I really do find all of this incredibly upsetting. 99 00:05:44,408 --> 00:05:45,808 I mean, Jesus, Cass... 100 00:05:47,288 --> 00:05:49,567 ...don't you think it's hard enough me losing me, 101 00:05:49,568 --> 00:05:52,967 without feeling that I am losing my daughter as well? 102 00:05:52,968 --> 00:05:54,927 I mean, really, what's happened to you? 103 00:05:54,928 --> 00:05:57,127 - Nothing's happened to me. - Why not try asking John 104 00:05:57,128 --> 00:06:01,607 if he thinks that's true. Or Adam. Or your work colleagues. 105 00:06:01,608 --> 00:06:04,127 Maybe ask them if they think you've turned into an arsehole. 106 00:06:04,128 --> 00:06:06,047 Because I do. 107 00:06:06,048 --> 00:06:07,448 Maybe I'll ask my lawyer! 108 00:06:10,008 --> 00:06:11,048 Oh. 109 00:06:13,848 --> 00:06:17,007 Actually, I don't even think you are angry about the will... 110 00:06:17,008 --> 00:06:19,327 ...or Jen. 111 00:06:19,328 --> 00:06:22,128 I think you're angry because you're losing him. 112 00:06:23,568 --> 00:06:25,527 And if that anger's helping you, 113 00:06:25,528 --> 00:06:28,807 fine, whatever gets you through the night. 114 00:06:28,808 --> 00:06:30,288 Except I don't think it is. 115 00:06:31,848 --> 00:06:34,287 I think it's making things worse. 116 00:06:34,288 --> 00:06:36,448 And it's definitely not helping him. 117 00:06:38,768 --> 00:06:42,328 And I'll say this once more, then you can tell me to piss off... 118 00:06:43,888 --> 00:06:47,127 We don't need your pension money, Cass, we could buy a lovely place 119 00:06:47,128 --> 00:06:49,906 down here, mortgage free, with what we have. 120 00:06:49,908 --> 00:06:50,712 OK. 121 00:06:50,713 --> 00:06:52,807 You could leave tomorrow if you wanted. 122 00:06:52,808 --> 00:06:57,087 Of course, you're right, I know you are... about it all and... 123 00:06:57,088 --> 00:06:58,928 TW call my dad in the morning. 124 00:07:01,768 --> 00:07:03,928 But the job... 125 00:07:05,288 --> 00:07:07,568 ...I have to stay now, John. 126 00:07:09,128 --> 00:07:11,447 There's stuff I'll tell you one day, but... 127 00:07:11,448 --> 00:07:13,608 I have to see this case through now. 128 00:07:16,848 --> 00:07:21,687 Oh, how could you forget Ram? So handsome, we all fancied Ram. 129 00:07:21,688 --> 00:07:24,007 So you remember this incident, Monty? 130 00:07:24,008 --> 00:07:25,927 It was me that called the police. 131 00:07:25,928 --> 00:07:28,327 Walsh made such a mess of his face. 132 00:07:28,328 --> 00:07:30,647 What about the girl, the one the fight was about, 133 00:07:30,648 --> 00:07:32,407 do you remember her name? 134 00:07:32,408 --> 00:07:34,207 I don't remember her name, but... 135 00:07:34,208 --> 00:07:35,847 she was the one I had to keep barring 136 00:07:35,848 --> 00:07:38,207 because she was drinking too much. 137 00:07:38,208 --> 00:07:40,967 OK, right, but she was also a probie? 138 00:07:40,968 --> 00:07:43,847 - Yeah. - And she was there with just Ram? 139 00:07:43,848 --> 00:07:46,487 Oh, no, she was there with another girl, er... 140 00:07:46,488 --> 00:07:50,727 Busy Lizzie... always moving at 100 miles an hour. 141 00:07:50,728 --> 00:07:54,007 Now, the arresting officer suggested that the suspect 142 00:07:54,008 --> 00:07:55,607 had made a pass at the girl? 143 00:07:55,608 --> 00:07:58,607 Oh, it was much more than a pass, I think. 144 00:07:58,608 --> 00:08:03,487 There was an alley to the ladies outside, and he grabbed her there. 145 00:08:03,488 --> 00:08:06,127 These days, you call it a sexual assault. 146 00:08:06,128 --> 00:08:10,527 Ram had interrupted it... and just went for him. 147 00:08:10,528 --> 00:08:13,088 He bit off more than he could chew, unfortunately. 148 00:08:15,768 --> 00:08:19,207 Hey, Dad, it's me. Er... listen, 149 00:08:19,208 --> 00:08:21,408 I don't wanna do this on a message... 150 00:08:22,528 --> 00:08:25,408 ...but can you call me, please? I really wanna speak to you. 151 00:08:33,288 --> 00:08:34,608 SCRAPING 152 00:08:45,328 --> 00:08:47,527 What year was your conviction? 153 00:08:47,528 --> 00:08:49,128 The dangerous driving thing. 154 00:08:51,728 --> 00:08:54,088 1993. 155 00:08:55,248 --> 00:08:57,768 And what year did you become a therapist? 156 00:09:01,368 --> 00:09:03,927 2004. 157 00:09:03,928 --> 00:09:06,127 And they didn't have a problem with that? 158 00:09:06,128 --> 00:09:07,727 Your regulatory body. 159 00:09:07,728 --> 00:09:10,008 They didn't have a problem giving you a licence? 160 00:09:16,728 --> 00:09:18,888 Well, they would've done, yeah. 161 00:09:20,368 --> 00:09:22,847 What do you mean, "they would've done"? 162 00:09:22,848 --> 00:09:26,687 - I don't have a licence. - Yeah, you've got a licence. 163 00:09:26,688 --> 00:09:29,247 It's on your letterhead, Fi. I mean, how else would you practise 164 00:09:29,248 --> 00:09:31,647 if you didn't have a bloody licence? 165 00:09:31,648 --> 00:09:33,408 It's a fake one. 166 00:09:34,728 --> 00:09:36,808 I bought it online for a hundred quid. 167 00:09:38,928 --> 00:09:45,207 My degree is real, my PhD is real, my psychotherapy training is real. 168 00:09:45,208 --> 00:09:49,088 I just... never applied for an actual licence because... 169 00:09:50,728 --> 00:09:52,128 ...I didn't think I'd get one. 170 00:09:54,048 --> 00:09:57,087 So you've been practising fraudulently for 16 years? 171 00:09:57,088 --> 00:09:59,047 Yeah. 172 00:09:59,048 --> 00:10:01,647 - How have you never been... - I always expected to be found out, 173 00:10:01,648 --> 00:10:03,488 but it just... 174 00:10:05,608 --> 00:10:08,008 ...never happened. 175 00:10:09,088 --> 00:10:11,807 - Does Mark know about this? - No. 176 00:10:11,808 --> 00:10:15,007 We have a commercial loan, which we've agreed to pay back 177 00:10:15,008 --> 00:10:17,287 with the income from a job 178 00:10:17,288 --> 00:10:19,728 you're not legally qualified to practise? 179 00:10:49,246 --> 00:10:51,045 Excuse me. 180 00:10:51,046 --> 00:10:55,845 So, the phone mast data gives us Ram Sidhu and Dean Barton 181 00:10:55,846 --> 00:10:58,605 within a mile of each another, 40 miles outside London, 182 00:10:58,606 --> 00:11:01,765 three days after we announced the discovery of Walsh's body. 183 00:11:01,766 --> 00:11:04,645 - Where? - At a... wood just outside Guildford. 184 00:11:04,646 --> 00:11:05,965 - That's really good. - Mm. 185 00:11:05,966 --> 00:11:09,605 And then, one of the boards down by the allotment has given us a guy 186 00:11:09,606 --> 00:11:11,805 who thinks he may have seen something that night, 187 00:11:11,806 --> 00:11:14,005 so we're bringing him in. Right. 188 00:11:14,006 --> 00:11:17,526 And Monty... came up trumps. 189 00:11:20,646 --> 00:11:23,165 It's actually more than you asked for. 190 00:11:23,166 --> 00:11:25,086 I don't want more. 191 00:11:26,206 --> 00:11:28,765 Well, think of it as a backdated pay rise. 192 00:11:28,766 --> 00:11:31,565 I should have listened to you sooner and... 193 00:11:31,566 --> 00:11:34,325 I am truly sorry about that. 194 00:11:34,326 --> 00:11:35,926 BANGING 195 00:11:40,206 --> 00:11:42,565 I would never have actually said anything 196 00:11:42,566 --> 00:11:44,526 because I know she'd just... 197 00:11:47,086 --> 00:11:49,285 I don't think you're a bad person, Liz, 198 00:11:49,286 --> 00:11:51,406 and I shouldn't have said what I did. 199 00:11:57,406 --> 00:11:59,406 You deserved better. 200 00:12:06,045 --> 00:12:07,925 So, this has never felt like a mob attack to me. 201 00:12:07,926 --> 00:12:09,845 - Nor to me. - No wounds on his body, 202 00:12:09,846 --> 00:12:12,206 - kick marks, punch marks. - We also know that three of them 203 00:12:12,207 --> 00:12:15,085 got out of the car separately, with only the women getting out together. 204 00:12:15,086 --> 00:12:17,725 - Yeah, and they're five coppers. - Indeed. 205 00:12:17,726 --> 00:12:19,485 So to me, if this wasn't an accident, 206 00:12:19,486 --> 00:12:21,765 if it was deliberate... 207 00:12:21,766 --> 00:12:24,246 it feels like it was more likely to have been just one of them, 208 00:12:24,247 --> 00:12:25,925 and then the others came across the scene. 209 00:12:25,926 --> 00:12:28,365 Yeah, and then for whatever reason, and this needs work, 210 00:12:28,366 --> 00:12:30,845 cos I struggle to understand why the fuck anyone would, 211 00:12:30,846 --> 00:12:34,046 - but they agreed to cover it up. - Mm. But which one? 212 00:12:35,446 --> 00:12:38,365 So Ram Sidhu has to be the most obvious candidate. 213 00:12:38,366 --> 00:12:40,645 Yeah. 214 00:12:40,646 --> 00:12:43,445 He's got the most obvious grievance, he's a loose cannon. 215 00:12:43,446 --> 00:12:45,605 He got out of the car first. 216 00:12:45,606 --> 00:12:47,725 But let's game the others. 217 00:12:47,726 --> 00:12:51,445 So, Fiona, we now know, was sexually assaulted by this man. 218 00:12:51,446 --> 00:12:54,405 Yeah, but... would a woman stab a man in the head? 219 00:12:54,406 --> 00:12:57,726 If he made easy sexist assumptions, very possibly. 220 00:12:58,926 --> 00:13:01,525 Actually, we don't know what a sexual assault 221 00:13:01,526 --> 00:13:03,765 might have triggered in her, from her own past, I mean. 222 00:13:03,766 --> 00:13:05,486 No, it's a good thought. 223 00:13:06,966 --> 00:13:10,765 - What about Baildon? - So the woman she maybe loved 224 00:13:10,766 --> 00:13:13,205 had been sexually assaulted by Walsh. 225 00:13:13,206 --> 00:13:15,406 Would a woman stab a man in the head, though? 226 00:13:16,686 --> 00:13:18,285 And then... 227 00:13:18,286 --> 00:13:20,606 - there's Barton and Fogerty. - Yeah, and... 228 00:13:22,646 --> 00:13:27,885 ...we have zero on Fogerty, which we really need to address. 229 00:13:27,886 --> 00:13:30,885 And then we have Barton with his criminal family history. 230 00:13:30,886 --> 00:13:34,045 - With associated violence. - No connection to Walsh. 231 00:13:34,046 --> 00:13:36,446 No evidence that he was even in the pub. No. 232 00:13:37,726 --> 00:13:40,885 - We can call Sidhu back in? - Except he'll just deny it. 233 00:13:40,886 --> 00:13:43,405 Not a chance we'll get a confession out of him. 234 00:13:43,406 --> 00:13:46,526 And we don't have enough evidence to charge him, so, no. 235 00:13:47,646 --> 00:13:48,885 SHE SIGHS 236 00:13:48,886 --> 00:13:50,726 So I think the best bet is to divide and rule. 237 00:13:52,766 --> 00:13:55,525 Scare the shit out of all them with what we do know. 238 00:13:55,526 --> 00:13:57,605 Hmm... 239 00:13:57,606 --> 00:14:00,525 Maybe offer them the promise of cooperation deals. 240 00:14:00,526 --> 00:14:03,885 Make them all, individually, think we have more than we have, 241 00:14:03,886 --> 00:14:06,286 so that they then turn against each other. I like it. 242 00:14:08,046 --> 00:14:10,445 We already have... 243 00:14:10,446 --> 00:14:15,325 Yeah, we've got nice stuff on Baildon and Grayson, er... 244 00:14:15,326 --> 00:14:18,005 But let's get more. I'd love to nail Baildon 245 00:14:18,006 --> 00:14:19,885 with that blood test stuff. 246 00:14:19,886 --> 00:14:22,765 And then we need more on Sidhu and Barton. 247 00:14:22,766 --> 00:14:24,846 I mean, stuff like the phone masts... 248 00:14:26,246 --> 00:14:29,165 ...that suggests collusion, that proves they're lying to us, 249 00:14:29,166 --> 00:14:30,566 and it allows us to ask why. 250 00:14:31,686 --> 00:14:35,445 So let's get authority to view Sidhu's disciplinary record 251 00:14:35,446 --> 00:14:37,045 and go through it with a fine tooth comb 252 00:14:37,046 --> 00:14:40,525 to see if he has a capacity for violence. Similarly with Barton. 253 00:14:40,526 --> 00:14:42,805 He's a lad from a... 254 00:14:42,806 --> 00:14:45,765 family of career criminals who decides to join the police, 255 00:14:45,766 --> 00:14:49,805 what's the story there? Let's try to speak to his family. 256 00:14:49,806 --> 00:14:52,205 I also think we should go after bank accounts as well. 257 00:14:52,206 --> 00:14:55,365 Fiona may not be the only one asking favours from old academy friends. 258 00:14:55,366 --> 00:14:57,925 Mm. And let's dig more on Fogerty. 259 00:14:57,926 --> 00:15:00,485 Because unless there's something fabulously incriminating 260 00:15:00,486 --> 00:15:02,125 about the murder weapon, if I was them, 261 00:15:02,126 --> 00:15:04,925 and I was forced by weight of evidence to finally admit 262 00:15:04,926 --> 00:15:06,846 that, yes, I was there that night... 263 00:15:08,886 --> 00:15:11,246 .who am I then gonna blame for the actual murder? 264 00:15:12,686 --> 00:15:14,725 The dead guy with the body in his house. 265 00:15:14,726 --> 00:15:17,645 The dead guy with the body in his house. 266 00:15:17,646 --> 00:15:19,046 Yeah. 267 00:15:26,446 --> 00:15:28,485 That's my birthday, that date. 268 00:15:28,486 --> 00:15:31,765 And that year was my 40th, so I remember that night well. 269 00:15:31,766 --> 00:15:35,165 I'd had a few with my wife to celebrate, 270 00:15:35,166 --> 00:15:37,165 and then I took the dog out. 271 00:15:37,166 --> 00:15:40,605 And it was next to the allotments that I saw them. 272 00:15:40,606 --> 00:15:44,205 This was by the entrance, before they stuck the gates up. 273 00:15:44,206 --> 00:15:45,925 How many of them, do you remember? 274 00:15:45,926 --> 00:15:50,565 Well, two... carrying it, whatever it was, 275 00:15:50,566 --> 00:15:53,045 wrapped up in tarp. 276 00:15:53,046 --> 00:15:55,406 Maybe one opening the boot. 277 00:15:57,326 --> 00:16:01,445 Couldn't swear to that, though. But then definitely two arguing. 278 00:16:01,446 --> 00:16:03,285 Arguing? 279 00:16:03,286 --> 00:16:06,765 - A woman and a man, she was crying. - Right. 280 00:16:06,766 --> 00:16:09,806 - Did you hear anything they said? - No. 281 00:16:11,006 --> 00:16:12,726 Oh. Did you say anything? 282 00:16:14,286 --> 00:16:17,126 I said, "What you got there, a dead body?" 283 00:16:29,566 --> 00:16:31,486 Oh, there you are. 284 00:16:42,726 --> 00:16:44,246 How long have you known? 285 00:16:46,126 --> 00:16:47,526 Known what? 286 00:16:49,566 --> 00:16:51,206 What I told Dad. 287 00:16:57,966 --> 00:17:00,965 He mentioned it just before he died. 288 00:17:00,966 --> 00:17:04,285 I mean, he was babbling all sorts of nonsense at that point, 289 00:17:04,286 --> 00:17:07,406 so I didn't take it remotely seriously. 290 00:17:09,966 --> 00:17:11,885 Clearly I was wrong. 291 00:17:11,886 --> 00:17:13,205 SHE SNIFFS 292 00:17:13,206 --> 00:17:16,485 I have to say, Elizabeth, my estimation of you 293 00:17:16,486 --> 00:17:19,125 has gone up enormously. 294 00:17:19,126 --> 00:17:22,406 You're in danger of almost being interesting. 295 00:17:27,326 --> 00:17:29,286 I am who I am, Mum. 296 00:17:30,446 --> 00:17:34,406 I've always been... pretty happy with that. 297 00:17:36,886 --> 00:17:38,486 I've made mistakes. 298 00:17:40,126 --> 00:17:43,965 One dreadful one. My God, I'd have loathed to have lived 299 00:17:43,966 --> 00:17:49,005 a life like yours. To have been a person who's... 300 00:17:49,006 --> 00:17:52,365 never even contemplated helping others, 301 00:17:52,366 --> 00:17:57,285 who's never even considered trying to make the world a better place. 302 00:17:57,286 --> 00:17:59,605 You're beginning to sound like a Michael Jackson song... 303 00:17:59,606 --> 00:18:01,606 Shut the fuck up! 304 00:18:10,246 --> 00:18:12,646 I don't expect love from you. 305 00:18:13,766 --> 00:18:16,845 You've only ever loved yourself. 306 00:18:16,846 --> 00:18:19,965 But you will speak to me with respect from now on. 307 00:18:19,966 --> 00:18:21,886 Or... I swear... 308 00:18:23,046 --> 00:18:26,845 ...I swear... I will come in here while you're sleeping 309 00:18:26,846 --> 00:18:31,485 and I will stick a pillow over your smug, self-satisfied face, 310 00:18:31,486 --> 00:18:33,406 until you are quiet. 311 00:19:04,246 --> 00:19:05,326 Mrs Quinn? 312 00:19:06,566 --> 00:19:09,885 Liam and Sean don't live 'ere, haven't done for years. 313 00:19:09,886 --> 00:19:12,206 It was actually Dean we came about. 314 00:19:13,526 --> 00:19:17,646 What could I tell you about Dean? I ain't seen him for 30 years. 315 00:19:25,886 --> 00:19:28,965 My husband's dead now... 316 00:19:28,966 --> 00:19:32,245 but in his world, the notion of crossing that line, 317 00:19:32,246 --> 00:19:35,925 becoming a copper, that was as bad as it got. 318 00:19:35,926 --> 00:19:37,406 So when he found out... 319 00:19:38,806 --> 00:19:41,285 ...it was awful. 320 00:19:41,286 --> 00:19:43,805 Worse even than Dean expected, I think. 321 00:19:43,806 --> 00:19:46,965 That night, he went down the local, 322 00:19:46,966 --> 00:19:49,205 where they'd known him since he was a kid, 323 00:19:49,206 --> 00:19:51,206 and they wouldn't let him in. 324 00:19:52,726 --> 00:19:56,965 As he walked away, he was attacked and beaten to pulp, 325 00:19:56,966 --> 00:20:00,605 by two of his brothers, while his father watched. 326 00:20:00,606 --> 00:20:02,366 FRONT DOOR OPENS Mum? 327 00:20:05,806 --> 00:20:07,245 Out, now. 328 00:20:07,246 --> 00:20:09,645 They're going, Sean. Just wait outside. 329 00:20:09,646 --> 00:20:12,006 You shouldn't be fucking talking to them in the first place. 330 00:20:12,007 --> 00:20:13,407 Out-side. 331 00:20:18,606 --> 00:20:20,446 I'll give you one minute. 332 00:20:23,166 --> 00:20:26,085 DOOR OPENS, THEN CLOSES 333 00:20:26,086 --> 00:20:27,365 Has he been happy? 334 00:20:27,366 --> 00:20:29,526 I think so, yeah. 335 00:20:30,526 --> 00:20:31,965 Still old bill? 336 00:20:31,966 --> 00:20:34,926 He left straight after training. 337 00:20:36,966 --> 00:20:38,206 Married? 338 00:20:39,286 --> 00:20:42,606 Yeah. With two children. 339 00:20:44,886 --> 00:20:47,685 Can you tell me where he lives? 340 00:20:47,686 --> 00:20:49,845 I don't think we can do that, I'm afraid. 341 00:20:49,846 --> 00:20:51,326 Please. 342 00:20:53,766 --> 00:20:56,126 I ain't got long. 343 00:21:04,526 --> 00:21:07,605 Not a lot to say, Marn, there are no great secrets. 344 00:21:07,606 --> 00:21:09,806 Calais was a one-off. 345 00:21:11,766 --> 00:21:14,886 It's a debt repaid. It'll never happen again, I promise. 346 00:21:16,006 --> 00:21:17,886 And my family... 347 00:21:19,046 --> 00:21:21,245 ...don't actually know if my mum's alive. 348 00:21:21,246 --> 00:21:23,166 Or my dad. Or my brothers. 349 00:21:25,086 --> 00:21:27,845 But they're not the kind of people I'd want to bring into your life, 350 00:21:27,846 --> 00:21:29,286 or the kids'. 351 00:21:31,646 --> 00:21:34,246 Now, I cannot tell you how much I... 352 00:21:35,457 --> 00:21:37,714 ...hated them and the... 353 00:21:39,246 --> 00:21:42,005 ...the values that they held, that they tried to instil in me. 354 00:21:42,006 --> 00:21:43,406 The person that... 355 00:21:44,766 --> 00:21:47,806 ...they very nearly made me become, in fact. 356 00:21:50,166 --> 00:21:53,846 So it's been a long, hard 30 years... 357 00:22:03,526 --> 00:22:07,246 CHOKING UP: ..trying to distance myself from them. And I... 358 00:22:10,966 --> 00:22:13,485 CRYING: Please, don't... 359 00:22:13,486 --> 00:22:15,086 don't make me go back there. 360 00:22:17,086 --> 00:22:18,326 HE CRIES I'm sorry. 361 00:22:23,486 --> 00:22:26,605 So, Ram Sidhu has twice been accused of using excessive force. 362 00:22:26,606 --> 00:22:29,645 First time was 16 years ago during a row in a shopping centre 363 00:22:29,646 --> 00:22:32,925 with a member of the public, who he alleged racially abused him. 364 00:22:32,926 --> 00:22:35,125 And then the second time was six years ago 365 00:22:35,126 --> 00:22:37,045 with a fellow officer, who he claims 366 00:22:37,046 --> 00:22:38,885 used a racial slur against him. 367 00:22:38,886 --> 00:22:41,485 On both occasions, he was cleared, but on both occasions, 368 00:22:41,486 --> 00:22:44,525 witnesses describe the violence as "coming out of nowhere". 369 00:22:44,526 --> 00:22:48,165 And one described him as going from 0 to 60 in under a second. 370 00:22:48,166 --> 00:22:49,925 Fran, Rob Fogerty? 371 00:22:49,926 --> 00:22:52,565 Er, yeah. Erm... rather sad man. 372 00:22:52,566 --> 00:22:54,365 Worked a variety of fairly dead-end jobs 373 00:22:54,366 --> 00:22:57,565 after leaving the force. Did these until about ten years ago 374 00:22:57,566 --> 00:23:00,725 when his drinking stopped him from being able to hold down a job. 375 00:23:00,726 --> 00:23:04,405 He then lived on benefits and inherited money from his dad. 376 00:23:04,406 --> 00:23:07,565 I managed to track down a teacher at his old secondary school, 377 00:23:07,566 --> 00:23:09,645 who described him as a very sweet boy, 378 00:23:09,646 --> 00:23:11,645 but one who struggled academically 379 00:23:11,646 --> 00:23:14,005 and one who was also very easily led. 380 00:23:14,006 --> 00:23:17,165 - And Jake. - So, I can't conclusively prove 381 00:23:17,166 --> 00:23:19,165 that Baildon deliberately lost the bloods, 382 00:23:19,166 --> 00:23:21,365 but I can prove that she was on custody duty 383 00:23:21,366 --> 00:23:23,565 the night the vials went missing from the fridge. 384 00:23:23,566 --> 00:23:26,285 I can also prove that she volunteered for overtime that night. 385 00:23:26,286 --> 00:23:31,085 So I think we have enough on Grayson and Baildon right now. 386 00:23:31,086 --> 00:23:33,605 Let's give 'em a tug and put them under some pressure. 387 00:23:33,606 --> 00:23:37,125 And, Fran, so the fourth Quinn brother is dead, 388 00:23:37,126 --> 00:23:38,565 I'd like to know how and when. 389 00:23:38,566 --> 00:23:41,406 It might be nothing, but have a dig. Thank you, guys. 390 00:23:48,566 --> 00:23:51,406 Need you downstairs, please, kids. House talk. 391 00:23:54,726 --> 00:23:56,606 House talk, please. 392 00:24:01,166 --> 00:24:03,166 What's going on, Dad? 393 00:24:09,606 --> 00:24:11,965 So, the question is... 394 00:24:11,966 --> 00:24:15,485 looking ahead to year end '21, what impact will that overspend 395 00:24:15,486 --> 00:24:16,845 have on rural services? 396 00:24:16,846 --> 00:24:19,166 If you could turn to page 14... 397 00:24:26,246 --> 00:24:28,965 One more thing... 398 00:24:28,966 --> 00:24:30,486 Sir... 399 00:24:31,766 --> 00:24:34,845 ...I'm afraid I need to withdraw my candidacy. 400 00:24:34,846 --> 00:24:37,966 - What, sorry, wh...? - I just want to say... 401 00:24:39,206 --> 00:24:41,885 ...I am deeply sorry if I've caused you any embarrassment. 402 00:24:41,886 --> 00:24:45,045 Liz, I'm sorry, I've got absolutely no idea... 403 00:24:45,046 --> 00:24:46,445 KNOCK ON DOOR 404 00:24:46,446 --> 00:24:49,805 So sorry to interrupt, sir, but there are two officers here 405 00:24:49,806 --> 00:24:53,726 who need to speak to DCC Baildon. They've said it's fairly urgent. 406 00:24:58,373 --> 00:25:01,412 So your dad and I have been talking, and I need to tell you some things 407 00:25:01,413 --> 00:25:04,933 about myself and my past. 408 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,320 OK. First up, erm... 409 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,719 ...my dad didn't die when I was a baby. 410 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,239 I wasn't brought up by foster parents. 411 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,440 He died when I was 20. 412 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,519 And one of the reasons I lied about this 413 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:26,479 was because on his gravestone, it says "A copper's copper”, 414 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,919 and I didn't want anyone to know that he was a copper, 415 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,079 as was his dad before him. And here's the thing, 416 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,839 for a brief period of time, as was I. 417 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,439 And I tell you this because it starts to explain 418 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,839 a part of my life about which I am deeply ashamed, 419 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,399 - and which I also lied about... - KNOCK ON DOOR 420 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,400 - Shall I get the door, Dad? - No, no, no, leave the door. 421 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,319 So, kids, I did not want to be a policewoman. 422 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,119 It had always seemed a limiting and backward world to me, 423 00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:01,319 but to say that to my dad felt like it would... 424 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,559 ridicule the path he and my grandad had followed, so I lied. 425 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:10,319 I lied to myself, and I lied to him, which was a stupid thing to do. 426 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,239 KNOCK ON DOOR This is funny, erm... 427 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,839 He actually died 18 months after I qualified, 428 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,479 and I found out from his diaries 429 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,879 that he hadn't wanted to be a police officer, either. 430 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,679 - He'd done it to please his dad. - KNOCK ON DOOR 431 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,319 So there's an irony there, isn't there? 432 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,280 - Fiona, can you stop, please? - So in order to... 433 00:26:25,281 --> 00:26:28,199 bury the unhappiness at where I found myself, 434 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,599 I started drinking, a lot, and was in fact an alcoholic 435 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,599 for many, many years, kids. 436 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,039 I also became very depressed, 437 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,239 and on two occasions, I tried to kill myself. 438 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,199 I also, during this time, I made many, many mistakes, 439 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,159 one of which I told your father about the other night, 440 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,639 and which I need to tell you about, too. So... 441 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,799 in 1993, I killed a child in a car crash, 442 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,999 which is just dreadful, but worse than that, I... 443 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,439 - Fiona Grayson. - Yes? 444 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,879 I need you to come with us, please, Fiona. I'm talking to my kids. 445 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,320 I can see that, but I don't think you want me to do this here. 446 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,119 You've come about the body, haven't you? 447 00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:09,600 HE GASPS 448 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,439 Three weeks prior to the night he disappeared, 449 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,359 Matthew Walsh sexually assaulted Fiona Grayson 450 00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:26,319 at the Ifield pub in Hendon. 451 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,399 Ram Sidhu then got into a fight with him 452 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,079 and we believe you were there. 453 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,279 Well, what evidence do you have for that? 454 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,799 Well, let's maybe come back to that later. For now, 455 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,400 I'd like to stick with the events of the night he disappeared. 456 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,639 Because I think you did get out of the car, 457 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,879 following Ram spotting Walsh, and then him deciding 458 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,359 that maybe "a bit of a chat" was in order. 459 00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:49,559 - Nope. - I think a few minutes later, 460 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,079 you found yourself on Marshfield Lane, 461 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,279 - by the allotments. - No. 462 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,279 Where I think Matthew Walsh died. 463 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,039 Again, what evidence do you have for that? 464 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:03,599 Actually, we've just found a witness who saw a number of people 465 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,719 loading something into a car down by the allotments 466 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,599 at about the right time. 467 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,119 Again, that sort of testimony is not going to be taken 468 00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:12,800 very seriously, I'm afraid. 469 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,960 I would have expected better of you than this, DC Stuart. 470 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,799 Fiona Grayson. 471 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,959 When was the last time you saw her? 472 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,000 Fiona? Erm... 473 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,519 .when we left Hendon, I guess. 474 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,159 Right. What about when you lived together in Thames Ditton, 475 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,440 when you were stationed at Kingston nick? 476 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,200 - I'm sorry, I meant since then. - So you just lied to me. 477 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,520 I'm actually finding this quite stressful... 478 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,200 ...and I'm not thinking... very... 479 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,919 To be clear, I haven't seen her since we shared a flat 480 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,840 26 or 27 years ago. 481 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,759 So, were you in a relationship with her? 482 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,159 On/off, yes. 483 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,799 But you never mentioned any of this when we first met. 484 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,079 On that occasion, too... 485 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,079 you said that you'd not seen any of them, bar Ram Sidhu, 486 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,360 - since you left Hendon. - Apologies, that was an error. 487 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,520 Would have expected better of you, Deputy Chief Constable Baildon. 488 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,599 So I want, if I may, to ask you about an incident 489 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,479 on the 17th July 1993. 490 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,360 Does that date ring any bells for you? 491 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,360 Nope. 492 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,839 It was the day your girlfriend was involved in an RTC 493 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,039 in which a young child died. 494 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,640 I presume you remember that? 495 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,079 Actually, we'd been separated for a year or so before that. 496 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,799 Oh, OK. 497 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,439 Well, I'm glad you've told me that, 498 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,999 because that really does make me wonder why you did it. 499 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,079 - Did what? - Deliberately lost the blood samples taken from her. 500 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,479 I don't know what you're talking about. 501 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,279 The blood samples that would've confirmed 502 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,679 what the arresting officer suspected - that she was over the limit. 503 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,639 Sorry, didn't happen. 504 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,799 SHE SIGHS IN EXASPERATION 505 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,680 OK, let me tell you where I'm going with this, Deputy Chief Constable. 506 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:43,359 There's lots... that we don't know about what happened that night. 507 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,799 We don't know yet if Walsh's death was an accident, 508 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,039 or a more deliberate act. And if it was deliberate, 509 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,960 if it was committed by just one of you, or more. 510 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,479 But one thing... we are completely sure about 511 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,039 is that Matthew Walsh died that night, 512 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,479 as a result of some sort of engagement with the five people 513 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,839 in that car. And that you then ALL... 514 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,920 colluded to hide that fact. 515 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,600 And indeed his body. 516 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,880 So, the real question now... 517 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,239 ...is who's gonna be the first to admit that and gain advantage 518 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,720 from their cooperation when they're sentenced? 519 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,040 So, bearing that in mind... 520 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,160 ...is there anything you would like to tell us, DCC Baildon? 521 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,200 No comment. 522 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,000 RASPY BREATHING 523 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,679 So, our object, it's not a rod or a spike from the wall, 524 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,839 it's actually what I suspected it was when I first cleaned it up. 525 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,279 - It's a pen. - A what? 526 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,559 A fountain pen, gold-tipped nib. 527 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,680 Quite a lethal weapon if you wanted it to be. 528 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,839 OK, I need to see this. I've got one more interview to do, 529 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,359 and then I'll come straight over. 530 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,079 But this means he definitely was stabbed, yes? 531 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,119 I guess it could have been inserted postmortem, but why? 532 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,640 CELL DOOR OPENS I'll call you back. 533 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,280 OK, so, first up, Fiona, how about I tell you what we know? 534 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,440 So, we know about the pub. 535 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,439 We know that Matthew Walsh sexually assaulted you. 536 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,079 And we know that Ram Sidhu then got into a fight with Matthew 537 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,319 because of that. And we know Liz Baildon was there, too. 538 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,319 We also know about your RTC... three years later. 539 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,119 And we suspect that Liz then contrived 540 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,199 to lose your blood samples. 541 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,759 Given that you two weren't in a relationship at that point, 542 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,599 we then have to ask... why she'd do such a thing. 543 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,679 And we have to conclude... 544 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,440 that you used the events of March 30th 1990 as leverage. 545 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,239 So that's what we know. 546 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,239 I don't think any of this is a surprise to you. 547 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,640 But I'm guessing that what I'm going to tell you next might be. 548 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,240 Matthew Walsh, we now suspect... 549 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,040 - ...died of a stab wound... - No. 550 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,320 - ...to the head. - No. 551 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,080 Unless you know different? 552 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,840 He was never stabbed, I promise. It was an accident. 553 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,079 He told us it was an accident. 554 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,920 - Who? - Ram. 555 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,680 He said that Walsh had tripped and hit his head. 556 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,200 He said it was an accident. 557 00:34:02,732 --> 00:34:04,451 Ooh, and he scores! 558 00:34:04,452 --> 00:34:08,691 England are through to the World Cup final! 559 00:34:08,692 --> 00:34:10,412 HE LAUGHS 560 00:34:11,727 --> 00:34:14,567 There's a woman at the door. She says she's your mum. 561 00:34:23,407 --> 00:34:24,966 And we were driving through 562 00:34:24,967 --> 00:34:28,366 some shitty suburb, south of Hendon... 563 00:34:28,367 --> 00:34:30,807 when Ram saw him. 564 00:34:32,407 --> 00:34:36,366 Just standing there on a patch of grass on the other side of the road. 565 00:34:36,367 --> 00:34:39,766 And he yelled at Rob to pull over, and it was him. 566 00:34:39,767 --> 00:34:41,847 The lad who'd put his hand up my skirt... 567 00:34:43,487 --> 00:34:46,286 ...who'd given Ram a pasting. 568 00:34:46,287 --> 00:34:47,967 No doubt, it was him. 569 00:34:49,007 --> 00:34:53,046 And Ram said we should search him 570 00:34:53,047 --> 00:34:54,886 because he was bound to have gear on him. 571 00:34:54,887 --> 00:34:58,246 And just have a bit of fun with him, give him a bit of a scare. 572 00:34:58,247 --> 00:35:02,366 And me and Liz kept saying no, telling Ram he was drunk 573 00:35:02,367 --> 00:35:03,727 and behaving like an idiot. 574 00:35:05,447 --> 00:35:08,806 And then... Ram looked at Rob, 575 00:35:08,807 --> 00:35:11,606 and they both grin... 576 00:35:11,607 --> 00:35:15,526 and then suddenly, he gets out the car, before we can stop him, 577 00:35:15,527 --> 00:35:19,246 and shouting over at Walsh, who sees who it is, 578 00:35:19,247 --> 00:35:21,126 and then just pegs it. 579 00:35:21,127 --> 00:35:23,806 And Rob's pissing himself laughing, 580 00:35:23,807 --> 00:35:26,926 and we're saying, "Stay in the fucking car, stay in the car." 581 00:35:26,927 --> 00:35:30,246 And then he's getting out the car and running after them both. 582 00:35:30,247 --> 00:35:33,567 So then it's just me and Lizzie and Dean. 583 00:35:35,047 --> 00:35:37,527 And Dean is really, really quiet. 584 00:35:38,767 --> 00:35:42,086 And then he said something like, he'd better go and stop them 585 00:35:42,087 --> 00:35:44,566 doing anything stupid. 586 00:35:44,567 --> 00:35:46,767 And then he gets out. 587 00:35:48,487 --> 00:35:52,566 And he walks, he doesn't run. 588 00:35:52,567 --> 00:35:55,326 And me and Lizzie, we just stayed where we were, 589 00:35:55,327 --> 00:35:59,727 waiting for them to come back, we were fairly terrified, for ages. 590 00:36:04,447 --> 00:36:06,846 And then eventually... 591 00:36:06,847 --> 00:36:09,886 Liz said that we should go and try and find them as well. 592 00:36:09,887 --> 00:36:13,847 Er... we got out and... 593 00:36:15,647 --> 00:36:18,247 ...we walked for about 15 minutes... 594 00:36:19,527 --> 00:36:22,127 ...eventually splitting up to find them. 595 00:36:24,487 --> 00:36:27,046 And then I just turned a corner... 596 00:36:27,047 --> 00:36:30,086 and there was Ram and Rob. 597 00:36:30,087 --> 00:36:35,247 They were in this, er, allotment behind this low wall... 598 00:36:37,167 --> 00:36:40,366 ...and it was dark, so I couldn't really see 599 00:36:40,367 --> 00:36:42,207 what was happening at first... 600 00:36:44,687 --> 00:36:48,246 ...but as I got closer, I saw the lad... 601 00:36:48,247 --> 00:36:53,087 was on his back... with a wound on his head. 602 00:36:57,047 --> 00:36:58,167 And... 603 00:37:00,727 --> 00:37:04,607 ...Ram was next to him, giving him CPR. 604 00:37:06,127 --> 00:37:08,647 CRYING: Oh, God. 605 00:37:13,847 --> 00:37:16,286 And as he was doing it, he just kept saying over and over 606 00:37:16,287 --> 00:37:18,687 that he didn't do anything, he just found him like that. 607 00:37:22,607 --> 00:37:24,806 And then somebody said that we should... 608 00:37:24,807 --> 00:37:26,887 knock on a door and call for an ambulance. 609 00:37:28,167 --> 00:37:30,647 And then Ram said no... 610 00:37:33,127 --> 00:37:35,647 ...because he was already gone... 611 00:37:39,487 --> 00:37:41,447 ...he was already dead. 612 00:37:43,927 --> 00:37:46,206 - There you go. - Shukriya, bachche. 613 00:37:46,207 --> 00:37:47,807 One for you. 614 00:38:01,567 --> 00:38:02,887 Just look at me, Dad. 615 00:38:08,487 --> 00:38:10,047 Just once. 616 00:38:11,287 --> 00:38:13,087 That's all I want. 617 00:38:15,607 --> 00:38:18,127 Then maybe I can stop all this shit. 618 00:38:20,567 --> 00:38:23,047 The money, the job, the lot. 619 00:38:29,367 --> 00:38:32,367 LAUGHING: Just look at me. 620 00:38:44,247 --> 00:38:48,086 And I've gone over it 100,000 times since and... 621 00:38:48,087 --> 00:38:52,166 y'know, there was a logic to it, of course. He was dead... 622 00:38:52,167 --> 00:38:55,567 there was nothing anyone could do to help, it was just an accident. 623 00:38:57,367 --> 00:38:58,847 But in here... 624 00:39:00,807 --> 00:39:02,967 ...I know we should have called for help. 625 00:39:05,007 --> 00:39:06,527 I've always known. 626 00:39:07,807 --> 00:39:10,566 And so, who then... 627 00:39:10,567 --> 00:39:12,447 suggested you take him? 628 00:39:13,967 --> 00:39:17,326 Ram. He knew they might trace it back to him 629 00:39:17,327 --> 00:39:20,006 because of the fight in the Ifield. 630 00:39:20,007 --> 00:39:22,927 And he thought he might have left clothing fibres... 631 00:39:24,887 --> 00:39:26,886 ...on the lad's body, so... 632 00:39:26,887 --> 00:39:30,327 This thing changed my entire life. This... 633 00:39:32,087 --> 00:39:34,167 ...horrific decision I went along with. 634 00:39:36,287 --> 00:39:40,007 It happened in a moment. One minute, my life was normal... 635 00:39:42,327 --> 00:39:44,727 Normal. And the next... 636 00:39:46,207 --> 00:39:48,486 ...it was... 637 00:39:48,487 --> 00:39:51,167 what it became, the life I ended up living. 638 00:39:54,087 --> 00:39:56,127 So once you decided... 639 00:39:57,607 --> 00:40:00,047 - ...Rob went and got the car? - Yeah. 640 00:40:02,047 --> 00:40:04,966 And then you all... 641 00:40:04,967 --> 00:40:07,846 - helped put him in? - I didn't. 642 00:40:07,847 --> 00:40:10,887 I was in too much of a state. But the others did, yeah. 643 00:40:12,647 --> 00:40:17,566 And then Rob's hands were shaking so much that, erm, Ram gave him 644 00:40:17,567 --> 00:40:20,566 a couple of swigs from a bottle of whiskey that he had with him. 645 00:40:20,567 --> 00:40:24,726 Which is why he was over the limit. 646 00:40:24,727 --> 00:40:27,327 And Rob was meant to get rid of the body? 647 00:40:28,687 --> 00:40:30,967 He kind of hero worshipped Ram. 648 00:40:34,247 --> 00:40:36,887 And Ram convinced him he was the best placed. 649 00:40:38,767 --> 00:40:41,647 And, of course, we all thought he had got rid of it. 650 00:40:44,727 --> 00:40:47,047 I thought it was an accident. 651 00:40:48,727 --> 00:40:51,167 Otherwise, I would never have covered it up. 652 00:40:54,087 --> 00:40:56,447 We all thought it was an accident. 653 00:40:58,327 --> 00:41:00,487 SHE CRIES 654 00:41:05,007 --> 00:41:07,806 I'm not expecting forgiveness. I'm not expecting love, 655 00:41:07,807 --> 00:41:09,287 or a relationship. 656 00:41:11,567 --> 00:41:13,807 I ain't come here expecting anything. 657 00:41:17,647 --> 00:41:20,366 I just want you... 658 00:41:20,367 --> 00:41:21,967 my son... 659 00:41:23,807 --> 00:41:27,167 ...to know, before I die, that I love you. 660 00:41:29,767 --> 00:41:31,727 I always have. 661 00:41:36,407 --> 00:41:38,567 And I'm sorry. 662 00:41:44,447 --> 00:41:46,367 How long do you have? 663 00:41:50,767 --> 00:41:52,286 So she's telling the truth, her truth, 664 00:41:52,287 --> 00:41:54,606 she thought that was what happened. 665 00:41:54,607 --> 00:41:56,006 Or she knew he was stabbed 666 00:41:56,007 --> 00:41:58,326 and this is all a carefully calculated lie 667 00:41:58,327 --> 00:42:01,446 - to minimise her culpability. - Or she did it. 668 00:42:01,447 --> 00:42:03,526 Nah, she didn't do it. 669 00:42:03,527 --> 00:42:05,926 And she didn't know he was stabbed, either. 670 00:42:05,927 --> 00:42:09,726 Unless she's the best liar in the world. 671 00:42:09,727 --> 00:42:11,287 Which I don't buy. 672 00:42:13,247 --> 00:42:15,247 So, who did do it? 673 00:42:20,087 --> 00:42:23,086 OK, it's late, I'm gonna nip over to the mortuary. 674 00:42:23,087 --> 00:42:24,766 Let's discuss further tomorrow. 675 00:42:24,767 --> 00:42:27,806 - You're gonna go now? - Mm. 676 00:42:27,807 --> 00:42:30,607 Do you wanna charge either of them with anything? No. 677 00:42:32,007 --> 00:42:34,246 RUI them both for now. 678 00:42:34,247 --> 00:42:36,287 Let's see where we get to tomorrow. 679 00:42:37,687 --> 00:42:39,007 Hey, boss... 680 00:42:41,967 --> 00:42:43,247 ...we're getting there. 681 00:42:56,087 --> 00:42:58,447 Hey, Dad. Me again. 682 00:42:59,567 --> 00:43:02,806 Listen, maybe I'm not gonna get to speak to you today... 683 00:43:02,807 --> 00:43:04,207 so I just wanna say... 684 00:43:06,727 --> 00:43:08,567 Ram? 685 00:43:23,567 --> 00:43:25,526 And then after I called you, 686 00:43:25,527 --> 00:43:27,926 I went online and checked a few details of pens 687 00:43:27,927 --> 00:43:31,886 this shape and design and... I think it is a Cigne. 688 00:43:31,887 --> 00:43:34,886 And if it is, they've got serial numbers on the nib body, 689 00:43:34,887 --> 00:43:37,126 which might be visible under the right light, 690 00:43:37,127 --> 00:43:41,246 and might give you the name of the purchaser. Wow. 691 00:43:41,247 --> 00:43:43,087 That's... brilliant. 692 00:43:45,207 --> 00:43:47,686 I will sort that tomorrow. 693 00:43:47,687 --> 00:43:50,607 Go home, you look knackered. 694 00:43:51,807 --> 00:43:55,967 - You are a stone cold genius, Leanne. - Yeah. This, er, this much is true. 695 00:43:57,007 --> 00:43:59,486 TW get that picked up first thing. 696 00:43:59,487 --> 00:44:01,246 Thank you again. Night, Cass. 697 00:44:01,247 --> 00:44:02,367 Night. 698 00:45:02,247 --> 00:45:03,807 Come on, Dad. 55672

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