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- They spent tens of millions of pesos,

that is several million dollars,

in hotel bills,

in which these cops were essentially doing nothing

but protecting themselves.

- They had no choice.

They were killing cops each day,

and there was some sort of psychosis.

- Take them in and take them out.

The one who wants,

because the police don't even want to go to the hotels

stay with their wife.

We said, okay the wife take care of the police.

- The reason the numbers of dead people in Mexico

are now causing a stir,

is the US press and the US government

consistently, without exception,

lies about the numbers.

You can pick up a newspaper tomorrow,

find major papers saying it's 50,000 dead,

when it's 100,000.

- There's a sense that Mexico's gone to hell

and a hand basket.

The populous doesn't trust the government.

They don't trust the statements of the government,

their statistics.

- When you hear a number in numbers in Juarez,

that's the minimum.

It doesn't count to disappear.

The people that get kidnapped and never come back.

- [Voiceover] Many people are disappeared,

and then they're never heard from again,

but they're not officially homicide statistics,

because their body never appears.

- And we know that the government,

and also criminal organizations

have put a lot of pressure on media

in other parts of Mexico,

and that crime is not being reported hardly at all,

and many reporters have been murdered.

- The government says it's only looked at 5% of the cases.

Looked, not investigated, looked.

Somebody's lying through their teeth if they said

they all belong to a cartel,

when nobody's ever investigated the murders.

- People's emotional memory is very strong in Juarez.

Anyone you know that has been affected by the violence

is never the same again.

- It's been a real struggle to see a place that they love

escalate into this chaos and violence.

People are ready to rebuild that city,

and welcome peace in whatever fashion that comes to them.

- In the case of Ciudad Juarez,

the murder rate was reported very faithfully.

They still are keeping a tab on the number of murders,

and they all report that, indeed, it is down.

- Clearly there's been a decline in homicides in Juarez.

The city is getting safer.

I know that from personal experience,

walking the streets of Juarez

and talking to many people there.

Many people report that the quality of life is returning.

- There are new businesses,

new businesses, new clubs.

Life is coming back.

- The homicide levels have dropped.

This is something we're hearing.

It's a new Juarez,

but people's memory is very strong,

and before they trust those numbers,

they have to trust themselves.

You can't really recover from a war zone

if you're still in it,

and if the violence can be triggered at any moment.

- No, no.

I think when this idea got in the government,

95% of the homicides are investigated.

Are investigated.

Cities like Medellin, Palermo, even New York, Chicago,

it took them almost three, ten years

to decrease the delinquency like we did in two years.

When I came to office,

the first time I was mayor in late 2004,

there was no community centers in Juarez.

Right now there is almost 42

that can ensure us that we give

opportunities to the less fortunate people in the city.

The next thing was to fertilize the municipal police.

- I will say that the most important change

that Leyzaola has brought to the police department in Juarez

is pride.

- Local police is the one who has more roots than the city.

If you grow the pride of the local police

because they have children,

they have grandchildren,

they have roots on the land.

You get better results.

That's what we did.

- Julian Leyzaola Perez is a very macho police chief

who wants to fight his enemies directly in the streets,

and he will call them out by name,

and he will threaten to attack them,

to even kill them.

He's not a person that backs down.

He was somewhat successful Tijuana

in lowering the homicide rate.

Tijuana had been dominated by the Arellano Felix cartel.

- In Tijuana, the cartels try to kill you four times,

and Juarez twice?

- Five times.

- Five times?

And Juarez twice.

How are you staying alive and doing all this?

- He is unique.

A very good discipline soldier,

because he is completely disciplined

to the authority I have.

He's an honest police, very honest.

- Chief Leyzaola has brought a somewhat more modern approach

to crime fighting, to Ciudad Juarez.

He's developed the sectorization progam,

which each police station is very much in touch

with what's going on in the sector.

- We are focusing and trying to map all the sector

with police completely equipped

and with enough equipment to do the job.

- The chief of police, Mr. Leyzaola,

in the last couple of years

has dedicated a lot of the police time and energy

to harass people downtown.

Prostitutes and dealers and poor people.

- We have seen many people arrested just by their look,

and I have talked to officers,

and they openly say that they just

arrest people just if they think that they're poor

or unemployed, et cetera.

And so, there's been a lot of thousands of arrests,

of these kinds of arrests.

- He takes people off the streets

and puts them to jail.

They're not read the rights.

They're not informed.

They don't have access to a lawyer.

All the constitutional and due process rights

are denied.

Thousands and thousands of people are right now in prison,

without necessarily knowing what their charge is,

without any possibility of getting out of prison

any time soon,

but also and worse,

without the possibility of a trial.

The individual that is in charge of human rights compliance,

in Ciudad Juarez,

is one individual.

He has no staff.

He has no lawyers working for him,

and at most,

he may be able to sit and, in a hearing,

listen to the complaints of the relatives

of the relatives of these individuals who have been abused.

- Some of the major people

that were ordering these murders are gone.

They were captured.

They were taken away.

El Diego is one example.

- 1,500 why not 15,000?

What's the difference?

I don't pay much attention to confessions

extracted by torture.

I'm sure they can get him to confess

to crucifying Jesus Christ.

I know a person,

who was in that prison in Juarez,

when this chief went in the yard and beat a man to death,

according to this person.

I also know if the guy actually proved that,

a lot of people in Juarez would celebrate it,

because they think having somebody come in and kill people

will stop the killing.

- While I was in the prison in Juarez,

I saw him come in several times.

The times that he came in,

he had a mask on a few times,

and then he would remove it.

All of his men had their faces covered.

When they came in they came in with two by fours,

billy clubs, I mean,

rifles to hit and beat everyone.

One instance that happened in our area,

the guy was beating one of the guys around the corner

from where we work,

and Leyzaola broke a two by four over his back,

and his guy said here's another one.

Go ahead, continue.

For the next three or four days the guy couldn't even walk.

I mean he was literally just stumbling around from this.

He would just pick someone out

if you looked at him wrong,

or if you didn't run or jump high enough for him,

he did it.

He'd take you out of the crowd and beat you.

- No.

I don't know one guy in the jail,

who'd blame what he did.

Police risks their lives

to defend the communities.

Let's hear more of the police hearings

than the people who are making delinquency in the world.

- Mayor Murguia would be seen as quite a hero,

if he could bring the violence down to the level

that it was in 2007.

I think that if he's responsible

for bringing the violence down in Juarez,

it's because he was able

to establish some new kind of arrangement

in the traditional manner of how a plaza,

a drug plaza,

is run in Mexico.

It's because the government officials make arrangements

so that the drugs can pass,

people can make their money,

I mean Juarez ran like that for a couple of decades,

before the outbreak of the hyperviolence in 2008.

- Historically the Mexican political system

controlled drug cartels.

To some extent it can be said

that they created drug cartels,

and controlled them through a kind of protection racket.

Drug cartels would be protected by governors,

by generals, by local police authorities,

that were put there by politicians

so that the politicians could get their cut

of the drug trade.

These days, though, cartels have grown so large

that the balance of power has shifted

from the political system over to organized crime.

Now it tends to be the case

that cartels actually install mayors,

and in some cases even governors.

- It is known in Mexico

that when new mayor or a new governor takes office,

he is approached by the drug traffickers the next day.

It's a common practice

that has existed in Mexico since the 70s.

- What would you like to tell those people?

- If I did a connection with some of the cartel,

I were dead already.

Am I alive?

Sooner or later, once you get into the mafias

or into the cartels,

you get killed.

So never on my life.

So tell your people who's saying that

they are stupid, liars, and completely malinformed

of what they are saying.

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I know a lot of them

that never come even to get a drink

or a hamburger or a taco or a burrito Juarez.

Just in the desk of the UTEP,

saying a lot of,

Come to Juarez.

Come to Juarez.

Come to Juarez and see Juarez.

We won the elections yesterday.

What they people say?

We won the election, majority.

- The situation in Juarez regarding drug cartels

is very mysterious.

It's clear that drug trafficking occurs in Juarez

at a very, very high level.

The question is,

who is in control of it.

There's a lot of argument

to the extent that the Sinaloa Cartel

now dominates Ciudad Juarez,

but this is always subject to question, debate.

No one knows exactly for sure,

except the direct participants.

- Since the assets or the heads of la linea

are all imprisoned or out of town or dead, et cetera.

Mostly arrested,

and other group is still untouched.

You may understand that this is kind of a victory

for one group.

Head of the Municipal Police said

that they focus firstly,

in that every touri under control of la linea.

Around 2010 the war was decided for the Sinaloa Cartel.

- That is complete stupidity.

People who talks about that is completely nonsense.

Delinquency is delinquency.

It's not cartels,

trying to say that the ground rate

goes down because the cartel were negotiating something

is stupid.

- Is it just a coincidence that Leyzaola, sort of,

cleaned up, quote unquote, Tijuana

and beat the Arellano Felix cartel,

and then the Sinaloa cartel took over Tijuana,

and then the same scenario occurred in Juarez

that he and others helped defeat the Juarez,

when the Sinaloa cartel took over?

Is that a coincidence?

Did it happen by accident?

Or was it an organized conspiracy?

That's really the question.

I think most people in Mexico would think

it was a conspiracy.

- I don't know about that New Juarez Cartel.

I don't listen to them.

I don't hear them.

I didn't fire Leyzaola,

so what, given,

some presence are people who is like a ghost.

You don't know New Juarez cartel.

I don't know them either.

- Oh that's a rough question.

The Juarez cartel used to be run

by officers and ex police officers,

and it was called Glaniti,

and I think that the new Juarez cartel

is composed by the remnants of that organization.

- The New Juarez cartel is essentially not new.

It is the remnants of the gang members,

some Azteca members and some looser allies

of the former Juarez cartel

that are resisting being absorbed by the Sinaloa cartel.

- One of the reasons that police in Mexico are killed

in these areas that represent major gracorridors,

because of their involvement with competing groups.

Many officers who refuse to join,

let's say, the new group,

will be threatened and eliminated if necessary.

- Very similar to the United States rates.

Very similar to the world's rates.

- How many people have you fired since you took over?

Wow.

As soon as you sense corruption, they're gone.

- I don't know who made the banner.

No one knows.

What I do know

is you're just blowing smoke.

Cause you say,

well I know what happened because somebody hung a sheet

and wrote some words on it.

What the hell would have happened

if somebody had written Mary Poppins on there?

- Is there any proof that the New Juarez cartel exists?

Is there any proof that they are the ones

wo killed the policemen?

If you were the people actually doing such a thing,

would you advertise that you were murdering policemen?

If you were the government doing something

like murdering policemen or drug addicts

or criminals or whatever,

wouldn't it be to your advantage

to advertise it and use this theatrical narco banner,

cultural thing that we know has been happening

in Mexico for years.

- [Voiceover] The Juarez police chief says

Mexican federal agents shot at him

during the riot last night.

Chief Julian Leyzaola says that the federal police

fired several rounds at his suburban

while he was trying to get to the prison.

They say at least 20 agents

shot at the police chief.

In response federal agents say

they didn't know the chief was in the car.

- Who gave the order for the federal police

to try to kill the Municipal police chief in Juarez?

If indeed that's what happened.

Are the federal police on the government payroll?

Are they on Chapo Guzman's payroll?

Some other cartel's payroll?

Are they on everybody's payroll?

- The mayor of Juarez is furious tonight

over the death of a bodyguard.

Federal police shot the man dead

near the Stanton Street Bridge last night.

He's identified at 29 year old Jorge Humberto Munoz Perez.

At as news conference last night,

Mayor Hector Murguia blasted what he called

the abuse by Mexican federal agents.

No word tonight on why the agents shot the bodyguard.

- [Voiceover] The victim was identified as a bodyguard.

He put his gun down because there was no apparent threat.

Then he put his hands up as a sign of peace

to the federal agents when he was murdered.

I'm very angry with a lot of indignation

and have a big concern,

because if this happened with the mayor's bodyguards,

what can we expect with the people of Juarez?

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- Historically, Mexico as a country

has had a hard time creating unity at the national level,

because each region feels like, to some extent,

it could be its own country.

There's a historical deep rooted conflict

between the provinces, the regions such as Chihuahua,

and the federal government.

People of Juarez feel that it's very unfair

that bridge tolls, which raise millions of dollars,

most of that money goes to Mexico City.

Many people in Juarez view people

from Mexico City as chilangos.

Corrupt, greedy, power mongers.

When the federal government comes in to Ciudad Juarez

in the form of federal policemen

or the Mexican military,

they're viewed as outsiders.

They view the federal police basically like vandals,

coming in to rape and pillage their city.

- One of the fantasies is that all this violence

has been because of two men,

Chapo Guzman, who heads the Sinaloa cartel

and Vicente Carrillo, who heads the Juarez cartel,

and these two guys murder the city

to control a couple bridges.

There's a drug organization in Tamaulipas.

There's one in Tiajuana.

There's one in Michoacan.

They've always been there,

and all the time they've been there,

they never managed in six years

to slaughter 100,000 Mexicans.

That's what's happened,

and they're called their own administration.

You cannot explain this

by saying it's a cartel war.

The question that should be asked

that isn't being asked is

why did the lid come off starting in December 2007.

What was the genie that got out of the bottle?

There's only one variable I know

to prove he's a tough guy

after he assumed office

starting in early 2007

sent the army out of the barracks

into the country to clean it up,

and wherever the army went,

there was an explosion of violence,

and an unusual number of dead people.

When they're saying this army went out

to valiantly protect the Mexican people,

manfully took on the drug world

and fought it to a stand still,

they've explained to me and others

why there's now 100,000 butchered Mexicans

and less than 200 soldiers have died in six years.

In the signature slaughter in Boca del Rio,

a bunch of people were slaughtered

and then dumped in an underpass

by a high end shopping mall there,

and the press everywhere reported, in the United States,

that these were zetas, meaning criminal organizations.

They have never reported that a right of center,

La Reforma, conservative,

investigated the dead people

and found out they were petty criminals,

prostitutes, nothing, drug addicts.

Some of the people swept up were kids drinking.

They had nothing to do with anything,

and then their parents would go,

what happened to my kid?

They saw the police take them,

and they showed up in that same pile

under the underpass by the mall with zetas,

with it written on their bodies.

- Certainly the drug trade, the drug demand,

and drug prohibition all play a part in the murders

that we've seen in Juarez and in Mexico at large.

The conservative estimate is at somewhere

between $8 to 10 billion is sent to Mexico

by US citizens who buy marijuana,

the proceeds of which

go in to the hands of the cartels.

They use those proceeds to hire people

into their organization,

to bribe public officials and police,

to arm themselves,

and to be able to kill on the streets of Juarez

with complete impunity.

- If we're not dealing with the issue of supply and demand,

and the economics of the drug trade,

we're not gonna get anywhere.

We should look at a more sensible policy

that reduces the profit margin on drugs.

- After 40 years of the war on drugs declared

by President Nixon in 1971,

you spent over $1,000,000,000 of our national wealth,

you've imprisoned more people in this country

than any country on the face of the plantet,

you've contributed to the bloodshed in Mexico,

and yet the easiest place to find marijuana today

is in a U.S. high school or middle school.

- The only way to legalize drugs

is doing something like liquor.

All over the world legalizing drugs,

in United States, in Japan,

in China, in Europe.

If you legalize drugs in Mexico,

all the addicts of the world come to Mexico.

Sooner or later you're gonna get Mexico

into the hell's kitchen in New York.

- For years we were selling El Paso, Juarez

as one community,

and then all the sudden it became very inconvenient

for us to be one community.

The reality was we still are.

Our economies are tied together.

When we have economic success in Juarez,

there's an accompanying economic success in El Paso.

People on the other side of the border

were extremely desperate during the economic recession.

You had 50,000 people who, all of the sudden,

found themselves without a job,

and they had worked with the Maquila industry.

The Maquila's provided their housing.

Now all the sudden, you have no job.

You have no house.

You have no unemployment insurance.

You have no welfare.

You have no food stamps.

What the hell do you do?

You turn to a life of crime.

- Most of the losses of jobs we have in Juarez

were from the recession in United States.

Not for insecurity.

Our main problem in Mexico is not insecurity.

That's a complete lie.

No, our main problem is lack of jobs.

Jobs.

Jobs.

- I think that Mexico needs presidents in the United States

that understand their country and their problems.

The United States really for the longest time

has essentially dictated how things should be in Mexico,

and Mexico's been powerless in many cases

to do anything about it,

and Obama has not been any different in my opinion.

- I want every America to know

my administration has devoted unprecedented resources,

in personnel and technology

to securing our border.

Illegal immigration is down, not up.

And we will continue to do what's necessary

to secure our shared border.

- The Obama administration has essentially stopped

illegal immigration.

Obama has deported more Mexicans than did president Bush.

- [Voiceover] According to Doug Mosier,

the spokeman for Customs and Border Protection,

and the El Paso arrests have dropped

from about 1,000 per day in the early 1990s

to about 20 to 30 a day now.

But like with most border issues,

the reason why is far from unanimous.

Wallace writes,

You must think Americans are stupid if you expect us

to believe illegal immigrant arrests are down

due to more border patrol agents or improved technology.

Come on, get real.

Don't repeat just what you are being told like a lap dog.

It's the economy, stupid.

- I'm concerned that we have a president

that doesn't understand the power of trade

for enhancing American employment,

and the prospects of American prosperity.

- Romney is someone who is very pro business.

His main concern is a strong economy,

so if he's to be Mexico,

I would expect that he would support

the NAFTA free trade agreement.

Maquiladora's and international commerce

between the two countries.

- Paul Ryan and I understand how the economy works.

We understand how Washington works.

We will reach across the aisle and find good people

who like us,

want to make sure this company deals with its challenges.

We'll get America on track again.

- Many social critics have said

that the Maquiladora Industry pays very poor salaries.

It takes a lot of profit out,

but does not contribute much

in terms of social and economic development.

- I'll make sure that we create agreements that work for us,

not just for the other guys,

and I'll make sure that the people we trade with

follow those agreements.

- You have a lot of extremely low paid workers

in the Maquilas,

whose children are often times

raised in environments with only one parent or no parent

in the household,

and these children don't want to work in Maquilas,

and often they form the ranks of the gangs

and drug cartels in the city.

- The only reason United States

doesn't have the security we have in Mexico

is because they have take care of their youth.

If they are hungry, they can have food.

If they need counseling, they can get counseling.

In Mexico, we have a complete different ball game.

- There are entire sections of the city

with hundreds of thousands of people who live in them

that aren't served by schools or high schools.

There is missing basic infrastructure

like waste water systems in housing.

Those are problems that occur when we only look at Juarez

as a source of cheap labor.

I mean I think we need

to have a more mutually beneficial relationship

with Juarez,

a greater investment in that community,

and I think it needs to be treated

as a full partner of El Paso and the United States.

- President Calderon and I also reaffirmed our commitment

to stand together against the drug cartels

that have unleashed horrific violence

into so many communities.

Mr. President, you and the Mexican people

have shown great resolve

in fight for the security and safety of your country.

As I pledged to you before,

Mexico can count on the United States as a full partner

in this effort,

and as your partner,

we'll give you the support you need to prevail

through increased law enforcement

on our side of the border.

We're putting unprecedented pressure on those

who traffic in drugs, guns, and people.

We're working to stem the southbound flow

of American guns and money.

- [Voiceover] Operation Fast and Furious was an operation

led by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.

The ATF says its plan was to dump weapons into Mexico

to infiltrate and identify

high level drug dealers and criminals,

but the plan was botched,

and a border patrol agent was killed with a weapon

from the program,

and Attorney General Eric Holder is unwilling

to release certain documents Congress has been asking for

for months.

- Fast and Furious allowed a certain number of guns

to go back across the border

when the ATF agency knew

that they had been purchased illegally

and were being smuggled.

- You look at a program like Fast and Furious

where we allowed guns purchased in the U.S.

by straw buyers to walk into Mexico,

knowing full well those guns would be used

to kill people in Mexico,

probably not envisioning that they'd also walk back

to the border

and end up being involved in the death

of border patrol officers.

I mean that policy is indefensible.

- [Voiceover] The plan seemed simple,

allow traceable firearms into Mexico,

and follow the trail back to high ranking Cartel members,

but hundreds of guns got lost in the shuffle.

Some of those weapons were used

to kill Arizona border patrol agent, Brian Terry, in 2010.

An ATF agent ultimately blew the whistle on the operation.

Yesterday for the first time,

President Obama invoked executive privilege

to keep secret the documents congress has been seeking.

Now the National Border Patrol Consult,

which represents more than 2,000 agents here in El Paso,

is asking for the resignation of the Attorney General.

- The laws in the United States are so complicated,

it's so hard to convict people for arms trafficking

that ATF knew that a lot of guns were going

from Arizona gun stores into Mexico,

but they simply couldn't stop it in a way

that could lead to a conviction,

so to some extent they allowed these guns

to flow into Mexico,

but it wasn't a deliberate attempt or effort

to get guns into Mexico and then track them.

Apparently that was a perspective

that was promoted by right wing bloggers

associated with the Republican party.

It seems to me that this is a house of cards,

this argument that there was this Fast and Furious program

to deliberately allow guns to get

into the hands of the cartels.

- The question you have to ask is,

is there any reason to think

that the people killed by those guns would still be alive

if those Fast and Furious guns weren't there,

and I think the answer to that is no.

It's not as if the criminals don't have other sources

of their weapons.

- This is the progress that we've made today.

It's a progress that calls to mind a Mexican proverb

that I'm told says,

tell me who you walk with,

and I will tell you who you are.

Mr. President, the United States is proud

to walk with Mexico.

- You really want the truth?

- Yes, I want the truth.

- The United States is murdering Mexico,

because of our lack of gun control,

and our failure on the war on drugs.

We are murdering Mexico,

in massive amounts.

Yes, Mexico is to blame also.

There's no question about it,

but this is truly a shared problem.

- As I understand it,

Mexico only has one official location near Mexico City,

or in Mexico City, where people can legally buy guns.

- There's only one gun store in Mexico,

and it is in the capital.

- All the weapons and all the AK-47s and assault rifles,

guess where most of it's coming from.

United States into Mexico.

- [Voiceover] Mexico's future is gloomy at best.

The entire country is affected by the drug cartel war.

It might just take a country wide revolt

to pull Mexico out of this,

because they're certainly not getting help

from the United States.

- No more weapons.

Dear France, and the United States,

Mexico needs your help

in order to stop this terrible violence we are suffering,

and the best way to do that is by stopping the flow

of assault weapons towards Mexico.

No more weapons to Mexico.

- Mexico is just as much at fault

until both governments get together

and closely examine the underlying factors

that's driving all this violence,

more Mexican people will be slaughtered.

I can't point to one administrative action

President Obama has taken

in regards to the Mexico murders.

He's sitting around having a ham sandwich,

watching all these innocent Mexican people

being slaughtered.

- Tens of thousands of voters here in Ciudad Juarez

turned out to the polls today.

Most hoping and praying

that a change in the president

will also mean more prosperity

to our border once again.

- [Voiceover] Members of this humanitarian group

take part in a march for peace

with elections in mind,

the peaceful demonstrators continued their walk

to the Benito Juarez monument almost a mile away.

Supporting all of Mexico, says Manuel Escobedo,

yes we can move forward.

Everyone's vote counts.

- [Voiceover] Pena Nieto's victory paves a way

for Mexico's old institutional revolutionary party,

or PRI party,

which ruled for 71 years,

to return to the presidency for the first time since 2000.

- Enrique Pena Nieto is a very handsome,

somewhat charismatic politician,

who is heavily backed by some of the richest people

in Mexico.

By Carlos Salinas, by Carlos Slim,

the richest man in the world,

and backed by the two major television networks.

The PRI has always been about staying in power,

above everything else.

It's a party whose ideology is very hard to describe

because it can swing to the left.

It can swing to the right,

but ultimately it's always about controlling power.

- For me, it's a lot of hope

that the president of Mexico

is gonna be a militant of my own party, PRI.

The hope of saving Juarez

for arriving Pena Nieto as the president of Mexico

is very high.

Very high.

- We cannot expect from Mr. Pena Nieto

any kind of serious reform.

A lot of different entrepreneurial groups

threw a lot of money his way,

and a lot of political groups.

- I think that he is just as out of touch

with what most of the Mexican people deal with every day

as Felipe Calderon is.

- The elections were corrupt.

This was not a free election.

People were bought out.

We know that they got cards to go and buy groceries.

We know that the PRI has used its dirty tactics

to elicit and collect people's votes.

- I don't think that the PRI party is completely reformed.

I think that the PRI party is changed.

They learned how to win elections

in a free environment,

because they used to control the elections.

- Presumably if Pena Nieto is competent,

he'll figure out a way to attack these cartels

or cut deals with them, such that violence will decline.

Often that involves a certain amount of

cooptation, negotiation, back room deals,

between drug traffickers at a high level,

and people in the federal government.

I assume that the PRI will do that as they did

in the past.

But the Zetas are a group that are not amenible

so easily to these kinds of political arrangements

and compromises,

so I think the Mexican state has to attack the Zetas head on

and I think they will.

- The Sinaloa cartel is quintessentially a drug business.

Los Zetas are a much more versatile, dangerous group.

- Zetas, according to our law enforcement sources,

have been entrenching themselves

in Juarez, southern New Mexico, and west Texas

for over the past 2 years.

There are on going investigations

of their alleged activities in arms trafficking.

We recently received word

that Zetas have been given the green light

to start carrying out hits and kidnappings

in this region.

- It seems so far that Los Zetas in the Gulf cartel

are in an internecine battle among themselves

in the northeastern part of Mexico.

While they're doing that,

the Sinaloa cartel now controls most of the corridors

in western and central Mexico.

That means peace.

If Los Zetas prevailed,

and they decided to challenge the Sinaloa Cartel,

yes things could get very very difficult.

- No, I don't know nothing about it.

We don't, we didn't hear nothing about Zetas.

You people from the news make more stories

than we know here in Juarez.

Zetas, we hear them from them,

because one of the Zetas drop over in the United States,

but in Juarez, we don't hear nothing about Zetas.

- Juarez has been traumatized,

and it will take a lot of years for Juarez

to revive.

I think it will take a lot of time,

until we see Juarez again as vibrant

as it was a few years ago.

In the future,

it all depends on us.

- I hope there's a new Juarez going forward,

and I hope that this decline in the deaths there continues,

and when we have peace there,

I hope that that is seen as a window of opportunity

to make the necessary investments in that community.

- Of course Juarez will not be the same

as before because the scars will still be very fresh,

but life will regain some normalcy.

- For those who have survived the violence,

there comes a point where they have to carry on.

They have to continue.

They have to have the strength and the vision

and the hope and the love for their community

to want to stick around,

to wan to build it and rebuild it.

- Completely.

Completely.

Future is very bright for the Juarezes.

We're gonna grow.

Keep living here in harmony, in peace,

happy, very happy,

eating a lot of burritos,

running, trying to get the best for our families

for the people we care.

- Mexico's future isn't gonna be good,

until the Mexican people change their conscience.

You cannot have factories that pay slave wages

and have a good country.

You cannot have adolescents with no jobs

and no money to go into high school

and have a good country.

You can't have a non-justice system

and have a good country.

And you can't under the fiction

of a war on drugs,

let the army, federal police, and state police,

run around the country murdering people

they don't approve of and have a good country.

Outside of that there's not a problem there.

- Yes, there is some problems

consumption of drugs in the world,

consumption in the United States,

consumption in Mexico,

consumption in Japan,

consumption--

We, all the people in the world,

need to be together trying to defeat the people

who take drugs to our kids.