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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:32,899 --> 00:00:36,468 Derrick: I haven't been here at the Harris county cemetery in years, 2 00:00:36,569 --> 00:00:40,406 but I sure remember the day in 2009 that we buried him. 3 00:00:41,674 --> 00:00:43,409 [ Owl hooting ] 4 00:00:43,510 --> 00:00:47,713 We buried him in Babyland, in the children's part of the cemetery. 5 00:00:50,683 --> 00:00:53,819 He was in this beautiful white casket, 6 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,522 that was a child-size casket because he was skeletal. 7 00:00:58,925 --> 00:01:02,661 We know how he died and it wasn't an easy death. 8 00:01:08,068 --> 00:01:13,705 I've spent 14 years trying to figure out who this boy is. 9 00:01:13,773 --> 00:01:16,542 Narrator: He's the last unidentified boy who died at the hands 10 00:01:16,643 --> 00:01:21,180 of one of America’s worst serial killers: Dean Allen Corll, 11 00:01:21,281 --> 00:01:24,783 otherwise known as the candy man. 12 00:01:24,884 --> 00:01:27,453 Hollandsworth: This is a story without any redemption. 13 00:01:27,554 --> 00:01:33,525 There is nothing but terror and madness and grief in this story. 14 00:01:33,626 --> 00:01:36,128 The news tonight begins with murder. 15 00:01:36,229 --> 00:01:38,697 Man on TV: So far, 17 bodies have been found in the boathouse. 16 00:01:38,798 --> 00:01:41,934 Police expect to find more when they resume digging later today. 17 00:01:42,035 --> 00:01:45,671 Narrator: The candy man's reign of terror was almost immediately overtaken 18 00:01:45,772 --> 00:01:48,273 by another killer preying on young men. 19 00:01:48,374 --> 00:01:53,178 John Wayne Gacy, otherwise known as the killer clown. 20 00:01:53,279 --> 00:01:56,682 Together over eight years, they killed more than 60 boys. 21 00:01:56,783 --> 00:01:58,550 Man 1: They were like kids in a candy shop. 22 00:01:58,651 --> 00:02:01,587 They just saw opportunity everywhere they looked. 23 00:02:01,688 --> 00:02:05,090 Woman: He came home and said, "oh, we were digging around his house," 24 00:02:05,191 --> 00:02:08,127 and it ended up they were digging their own graves. 25 00:02:08,228 --> 00:02:10,195 These kids were crying for their moms. 26 00:02:10,296 --> 00:02:13,365 James: They would tie them on the torture board and molest them. 27 00:02:13,466 --> 00:02:15,367 Narrator: Many thought that John Wayne Gacy 28 00:02:15,468 --> 00:02:17,936 and Dean Corll were lone psychopaths, 29 00:02:18,037 --> 00:02:20,939 but this series investigates evidence they were linked 30 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,841 to a secret, nation-wide network. 31 00:02:22,942 --> 00:02:25,844 Man on TV: Police in Dallas think they've uncovered a nation-wide 32 00:02:25,945 --> 00:02:27,779 procurement ring for homosexuals. 33 00:02:27,881 --> 00:02:29,414 Man 2: I'd call it a pedophile cell, 34 00:02:29,516 --> 00:02:32,417 and I think it could be compared to a terrorist cell. 35 00:02:32,519 --> 00:02:36,121 Man 1: I was sexually exploited by a pedophile ring from age five to age 12. 36 00:02:36,222 --> 00:02:38,790 It's like psychological and emotional quicksand. 37 00:02:38,892 --> 00:02:40,559 Narrator: It was a massive network 38 00:02:40,660 --> 00:02:43,295 and one of its masterminds, a shadowy figure. 39 00:02:43,396 --> 00:02:44,730 Man 3: It's a snake of snakes. 40 00:02:44,831 --> 00:02:46,064 His name is John David Norman. 41 00:02:46,166 --> 00:02:48,734 He's a pedophile, and he ran a ring. 42 00:02:48,835 --> 00:02:52,271 Man 4: He sent boys to service clients throughout the states. 43 00:02:52,372 --> 00:02:53,939 They came from all walks of life. 44 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,175 Doctors, lawyers, all the way down. 45 00:02:56,276 --> 00:02:59,178 Man 3: And, yes, they were in communication with one another. 46 00:02:59,279 --> 00:03:01,246 They knew exactly what was going on. 47 00:03:01,347 --> 00:03:03,949 Narrator: This series uncovers a hidden conspiracy 48 00:03:04,050 --> 00:03:06,018 of pedophiles and child-killers 49 00:03:06,119 --> 00:03:08,420 and in never-before-heard conversations, 50 00:03:08,521 --> 00:03:11,857 a glimpse into the twisted world of the killer clown. 51 00:03:11,958 --> 00:03:14,092 Phone operator: You have a collect call from... 52 00:03:14,194 --> 00:03:15,227 Gacy: John Gacy. 53 00:03:37,016 --> 00:03:38,650 Hollandsworth: There's an entire industry 54 00:03:38,751 --> 00:03:42,788 devoted to serial killers in America. 55 00:03:42,889 --> 00:03:47,926 Even with all the technology that we now have to catch killers like this, 56 00:03:48,027 --> 00:03:53,732 it's bewildering that no-one saw it happening back in 1970 to 1973. 57 00:03:54,934 --> 00:03:57,669 Well, I'm a true crime writer at Texas monthly, 58 00:03:57,770 --> 00:04:01,206 and I thought I knew all the major crime stories. 59 00:04:01,307 --> 00:04:04,543 This old retired radio reporter I met 60 00:04:04,644 --> 00:04:07,512 told me that the most devastating story 61 00:04:07,614 --> 00:04:09,514 he had ever worked on in his entire career 62 00:04:09,616 --> 00:04:13,318 was the story of what Dean Corll did to those boys in Houston. 63 00:04:13,419 --> 00:04:15,854 And I said, "who's Dean Corll?" 64 00:04:19,859 --> 00:04:23,095 Narrator: The answer begins with a phone call to the police 65 00:04:23,196 --> 00:04:26,398 on a hot summer morning in 1973, 66 00:04:26,499 --> 00:04:29,835 and a dark secret world starts to unravel. 67 00:04:34,674 --> 00:04:36,375 Outside 2020 Lamar, 68 00:04:36,476 --> 00:04:39,211 the police find three shaken teens. 69 00:04:39,312 --> 00:04:41,680 Seventeen-year-old Elmer Wayne Henley, 70 00:04:41,781 --> 00:04:43,815 nineteen-year-old Tim Kerley, 71 00:04:43,916 --> 00:04:46,551 and fifteen-year-old Rhonda Williams 72 00:04:46,653 --> 00:04:49,154 and a .22 caliber gun on the ground. 73 00:04:50,990 --> 00:04:53,258 Smith: They were all sitting on a curb, 74 00:04:53,359 --> 00:04:56,395 and immediately when Henley made a statement 75 00:04:56,496 --> 00:05:01,366 that he'd shot Dean Corll and that his body was inside the house. 76 00:05:01,467 --> 00:05:02,701 [ Camera shutter clicks ] 77 00:05:02,802 --> 00:05:05,704 Narrator: In the hallway is a man's naked body. 78 00:05:05,805 --> 00:05:08,240 He's been shot six times. 79 00:05:08,341 --> 00:05:11,877 A search of the house shows this is anything but routine. 80 00:05:13,513 --> 00:05:15,480 Smith: In one bedroom, there were polyethylene. 81 00:05:15,581 --> 00:05:18,450 Plastic was rolled out on the floor, 82 00:05:18,551 --> 00:05:22,387 and a board with holes in it, 83 00:05:22,488 --> 00:05:28,193 handcuffs and ropes attached to various sexual devices. 84 00:05:32,699 --> 00:05:36,234 A lot of, ah, acrylic spray cans, marijuana. 85 00:05:39,472 --> 00:05:43,642 Narrator: Thirty-three-year-old Dean Corll seemed an unlikely murder victim. 86 00:05:43,743 --> 00:05:46,311 A lineman at the Houston lighting & power company, 87 00:05:46,412 --> 00:05:49,247 he was a familiar face in the heights. 88 00:05:49,349 --> 00:05:51,550 His mother had owned the candy store and factory 89 00:05:51,651 --> 00:05:52,651 in the neighborhood. 90 00:05:53,653 --> 00:05:55,387 Milligan: I was in the fifth grade, 91 00:05:55,488 --> 00:05:57,122 and we were on the playground 92 00:05:57,223 --> 00:06:00,359 and someone yelled, "the candy man." 93 00:06:00,493 --> 00:06:03,495 And these little kids were running like mad 94 00:06:03,596 --> 00:06:05,097 to the fence to get candy, 95 00:06:06,466 --> 00:06:08,500 and I turned to a friend of mine and I said, 96 00:06:08,634 --> 00:06:10,435 "who's the candy man?" 97 00:06:10,536 --> 00:06:13,638 He goes, "ah, his family runs a candy store about four blocks over." 98 00:06:16,809 --> 00:06:20,345 Hollandsworth: Dean Corll was his big, broad-shouldered young man, 99 00:06:20,446 --> 00:06:25,450 thick black hair, big black sideburns, and friendly. 100 00:06:25,551 --> 00:06:28,387 He was always good with the kids who came by the candy factory. 101 00:06:28,488 --> 00:06:30,555 He would give them free candy that his mom had made, 102 00:06:30,656 --> 00:06:35,360 pralines or Turkish delights or pecan logs. 103 00:06:35,461 --> 00:06:38,964 He set up a pool table in the back room, he let the kids play there. 104 00:06:39,065 --> 00:06:41,566 He would sometimes give them rides on his motorcycle. 105 00:06:42,869 --> 00:06:44,870 He was sort of like a good boy scout leader. 106 00:06:44,971 --> 00:06:47,072 He wasn't someone that people were scared of. 107 00:06:48,608 --> 00:06:51,877 Narrator: Why, then, would a 17-year-old kid from the neighborhood 108 00:06:51,978 --> 00:06:55,414 claimed he had to kill the candy man in self-defense? 109 00:06:56,582 --> 00:06:58,450 The story Henley tells the police 110 00:06:58,551 --> 00:07:00,352 paints a very different picture 111 00:07:00,453 --> 00:07:03,121 of the friendly guy in the neighborhood. 112 00:07:03,222 --> 00:07:05,090 Smith: They were having a party there. 113 00:07:05,191 --> 00:07:08,427 They were, uh, what we called in those days, bagging, 114 00:07:08,528 --> 00:07:12,197 they're sniffing the acrylic spray out of a bag to get high. 115 00:07:13,666 --> 00:07:15,834 They got so high they passed out, 116 00:07:15,935 --> 00:07:17,536 and when they woke up, 117 00:07:17,637 --> 00:07:19,838 uh, they were all tied up or handcuffed, 118 00:07:19,939 --> 00:07:23,508 all three of 'em, including Wayne Henley. 119 00:07:23,609 --> 00:07:27,279 Narrator: Henley tells the police that the candy man had a secret obsession. 120 00:07:27,380 --> 00:07:30,081 He liked underage boys. 121 00:07:30,183 --> 00:07:33,852 Corll had no affinity for women whatsoever. 122 00:07:33,953 --> 00:07:36,888 He was angry with Henley because Henley had brought the girl there. 123 00:07:38,658 --> 00:07:41,526 Corll wanted Henley to have sex with the girl 124 00:07:41,627 --> 00:07:44,396 while he had sex with the other young boy that was there, 125 00:07:44,497 --> 00:07:47,933 and Henley had refused. 126 00:07:48,034 --> 00:07:50,702 Narrator: Henley says Corll threatened him with a gun, 127 00:07:50,803 --> 00:07:54,739 so he agreed to do whatever Corll wanted. 128 00:07:54,841 --> 00:07:59,244 Henley talked him into letting him out of the hand cuffs, 129 00:07:59,312 --> 00:08:03,114 and when he did that, he immediately grabbed the pistol and shot him. 130 00:08:03,216 --> 00:08:05,617 [ Gunshots ] 131 00:08:07,019 --> 00:08:09,754 Narrator: It seemed an unbelievable story, 132 00:08:09,856 --> 00:08:11,623 and might have ended there: 133 00:08:11,724 --> 00:08:14,960 A drug-fueled sex orgy that got out of hand, 134 00:08:15,061 --> 00:08:18,296 until Henley tells them an insane story. 135 00:08:18,397 --> 00:08:21,500 Smith: That's when he told the story about Corll telling him 136 00:08:21,601 --> 00:08:23,702 about murdering, torturing, 137 00:08:24,370 --> 00:08:26,605 sexually assaulting young boys 138 00:08:26,706 --> 00:08:29,107 and burying them in a boatshed. 139 00:08:29,208 --> 00:08:31,276 [ Typewriter keys clicking ] 140 00:08:31,377 --> 00:08:33,745 And he even had names of some of the boys 141 00:08:33,846 --> 00:08:35,780 that he said Corll killed. 142 00:08:37,016 --> 00:08:38,750 I didn't believe him. 143 00:08:38,851 --> 00:08:41,686 It just seemed such a bizarre story, 144 00:08:41,787 --> 00:08:44,155 and I've heard many bizarre stories before 145 00:08:44,257 --> 00:08:46,525 that didn't turn out to be true. 146 00:08:48,194 --> 00:08:52,330 We started checking out these names to see if they were missing persons 147 00:08:52,398 --> 00:08:55,667 or runaway juveniles, and that's when we learned 148 00:08:55,768 --> 00:08:59,604 that some of them have been listed as missing or runaways. 149 00:09:02,942 --> 00:09:06,044 Narrator: Missing boys, bodies in a boatshed. 150 00:09:06,145 --> 00:09:08,079 Henley says he can take them there. 151 00:09:11,784 --> 00:09:15,253 Henley was, I would say, matter-of-fact. 152 00:09:15,354 --> 00:09:18,023 He was a very smart, streetwise kid. 153 00:09:19,125 --> 00:09:20,859 He showed no emotion about it. 154 00:09:22,695 --> 00:09:26,264 Narrator: That afternoon, Henley leads the police on the 30-minute drive 155 00:09:26,365 --> 00:09:28,733 to 4500 silver bell street. 156 00:09:30,937 --> 00:09:34,472 Smith: We found the boatshed but it was locked. 157 00:09:34,574 --> 00:09:37,842 I got a tire tool out of the car 158 00:09:37,944 --> 00:09:41,813 and I broke the hinges off of a galvanized door. 159 00:09:43,182 --> 00:09:45,584 And immediately, when we open the door, 160 00:09:45,718 --> 00:09:48,420 it smelled really bad. 161 00:09:48,521 --> 00:09:51,623 At that point, I thought Henley's right. 162 00:09:52,825 --> 00:09:53,825 I believed him. 163 00:09:57,296 --> 00:10:00,966 Smith: I knew for a fact that something was dead inside that boatshed. 164 00:10:01,867 --> 00:10:03,735 I mean, I'd smelled that before. 165 00:10:05,137 --> 00:10:08,139 Looking around the ground, I saw a position 166 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:09,841 on the left side of the boatshed 167 00:10:09,942 --> 00:10:12,877 where the ground was cracked and raised up. 168 00:10:13,946 --> 00:10:16,014 That's where I grabbed a shovel. 169 00:10:16,115 --> 00:10:19,718 I had some trustees there. 170 00:10:19,819 --> 00:10:22,988 And we started digging, and about six or eight inches under the ground, 171 00:10:23,089 --> 00:10:24,723 we found the first body. 172 00:10:26,158 --> 00:10:28,259 Nude, wrapped in plastic. 173 00:10:29,161 --> 00:10:31,329 It had begun decomposition, 174 00:10:31,430 --> 00:10:35,033 but, uh, it hadn't been there that long. 175 00:10:38,137 --> 00:10:41,573 James: You could smell it when you got out of the car, 176 00:10:43,042 --> 00:10:45,377 it was black gumbo 177 00:10:45,478 --> 00:10:51,950 in a, you know, 15 by 25-foot boat stall. 178 00:10:52,051 --> 00:10:55,120 It had the most horrible smell you could ever imagine. 179 00:10:58,457 --> 00:11:00,225 Of course, it was new to me. 180 00:11:00,326 --> 00:11:04,529 I'd only been in homicide for about a month when that took place. 181 00:11:04,630 --> 00:11:06,398 [ Digging ] 182 00:11:07,633 --> 00:11:10,669 Smith: We just kept digging and kept finding more. 183 00:11:10,770 --> 00:11:13,371 They were layered on top of one another. 184 00:11:13,472 --> 00:11:15,874 Some had been buried for a long time, 185 00:11:15,975 --> 00:11:18,843 some of them were nothing but skeletons. 186 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:22,547 James: You'd hit lime first, 187 00:11:22,648 --> 00:11:25,249 and when you hit a section of lime, 188 00:11:25,317 --> 00:11:27,552 you knew that there was a body underneath it. 189 00:11:32,291 --> 00:11:34,025 We didn't even have gloves. 190 00:11:34,126 --> 00:11:36,461 All we had, we had body bags. 191 00:11:39,732 --> 00:11:41,766 You know, there wasn't much talking 192 00:11:41,867 --> 00:11:45,437 until you stuck a shovel in 193 00:11:45,538 --> 00:11:48,506 and pulled out some white lime. 194 00:11:48,607 --> 00:11:50,375 You said, "well, here's another one." 195 00:11:51,510 --> 00:11:54,279 Narrator: Body after body, hour after hour. 196 00:11:54,380 --> 00:11:57,549 The more they dug, the more they found. 197 00:11:58,551 --> 00:11:59,718 Smith: It was chaos. 198 00:11:59,819 --> 00:12:01,820 We tried to keep the media at bay, 199 00:12:01,921 --> 00:12:05,757 but they would, uh, get closer all the time. 200 00:12:05,858 --> 00:12:07,992 I had to tell some of them to get out 201 00:12:08,094 --> 00:12:11,529 because they were walking into the boatshed. 202 00:12:11,630 --> 00:12:14,966 After an hour of moving the shell and soft Sandy Clay around, 203 00:12:15,067 --> 00:12:19,237 the skeletal remains of body number nine is found under a layer of lime. 204 00:12:19,338 --> 00:12:22,307 Smith: Henley, he was standing outside the boatshed. 205 00:12:22,408 --> 00:12:23,808 He was still handcuffed 206 00:12:23,909 --> 00:12:27,479 but he asked me if he could call his mother. 207 00:12:27,580 --> 00:12:30,348 One of the members of the media had a car phone. 208 00:12:30,783 --> 00:12:32,283 [ Henley speaking ] 209 00:12:32,384 --> 00:12:33,785 [ Mary Henley speaking ] 210 00:12:47,233 --> 00:12:50,769 The only emotion I ever saw from him is when he was on the phone 211 00:12:50,870 --> 00:12:53,605 with his mother that night at the boatshed. 212 00:12:53,706 --> 00:12:57,809 Other than that, he was just matter-of-fact. 213 00:12:57,910 --> 00:13:01,846 James: Henley thought that since he had killed Corll, it was over. 214 00:13:02,948 --> 00:13:04,115 It was just beginning. 215 00:13:06,152 --> 00:13:08,753 Narrator: The gory details swept through Houston. 216 00:13:08,854 --> 00:13:11,623 Local TV stations cut into regular programming. 217 00:13:11,757 --> 00:13:14,325 Police in Houston, Texas, tonight are unraveling 218 00:13:14,426 --> 00:13:16,427 the grisly details of a mass murder. 219 00:13:16,529 --> 00:13:18,096 Twelve bodies have been found. 220 00:13:18,197 --> 00:13:20,265 It's feared there may be more. 221 00:13:20,366 --> 00:13:23,168 Henley said the murders took place at a torture chamber in this house, 222 00:13:23,269 --> 00:13:25,904 and he killed Corll yesterday afternoon in self-defense 223 00:13:26,005 --> 00:13:27,539 after a paint-sniffing sex party. 224 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,708 While hiding his face in the backseat of a police car. 225 00:13:30,810 --> 00:13:34,412 Henley talked to KHOU newsman Judd McIlvain. 226 00:13:34,513 --> 00:13:35,814 [ Mcllvain speaking ] 227 00:13:37,783 --> 00:13:39,150 [ Henley speaking ] 228 00:13:50,496 --> 00:13:53,164 Milligan: When the story broke about the killings, 229 00:13:53,265 --> 00:13:55,233 and all of us knew someone, 230 00:13:55,334 --> 00:14:00,672 multiple people who were touched by this. 231 00:14:00,773 --> 00:14:04,042 Furstenfeld: Oh, it was huge news, especially to those of us in the heights, 232 00:14:04,143 --> 00:14:07,212 that thought of the heights as a safety ground. 233 00:14:08,514 --> 00:14:10,748 Narrator: It was a typical working-class neighborhood, 234 00:14:10,850 --> 00:14:13,151 like so many others across America. 235 00:14:15,020 --> 00:14:18,890 The next morning, another teen from the heights turns himself in, 236 00:14:18,991 --> 00:14:22,560 and things go from bad to worse. 237 00:14:22,661 --> 00:14:27,332 David Brooks went into the Houston police department with his father. 238 00:14:27,433 --> 00:14:31,102 Narrator: The eighteen-year-old says Henley isn't telling the whole story. 239 00:14:31,203 --> 00:14:33,705 He says Corll didn't act alone. 240 00:14:33,806 --> 00:14:36,207 Henley wasn't an innocent bystander, 241 00:14:36,308 --> 00:14:38,142 he was a willing participant. 242 00:14:39,345 --> 00:14:42,647 Smith: That's when Henley decided to tell the truth. 243 00:14:42,748 --> 00:14:45,817 Male reporter: Late today, police said Henley, who's already been implicated 244 00:14:45,918 --> 00:14:48,486 in the 12 murders, has confessed to involvement 245 00:14:48,587 --> 00:14:51,556 in a total of 25 to 30 murders. 246 00:14:51,657 --> 00:14:53,558 And tonight, police are going to another site 247 00:14:53,659 --> 00:14:55,260 at lake Sam Rayburn, 248 00:14:55,361 --> 00:14:57,262 about 100 miles away, to look for more bodies. 249 00:14:57,696 --> 00:14:59,364 [ Digging ] 250 00:15:00,933 --> 00:15:02,533 Narrator: That evening at the lake, 251 00:15:02,635 --> 00:15:05,670 in the woods near a cottage owned by Corll's parents, 252 00:15:05,771 --> 00:15:08,539 the police dig up four more graves. 253 00:15:08,641 --> 00:15:10,675 There seemed to be no end in sight. 254 00:15:10,776 --> 00:15:12,644 [ Helicopter hovering ] 255 00:15:12,745 --> 00:15:15,146 Hollandsworth: Henley said, "well, there's some more bodies," 256 00:15:15,247 --> 00:15:17,548 and they're over at high island. 257 00:15:17,650 --> 00:15:22,620 And so they did this kind of en masse trip to high island, 258 00:15:24,490 --> 00:15:27,625 and Brooks and Henley sat on a sand dune. 259 00:15:27,726 --> 00:15:31,162 Reporters went up to 'em and asked them questions, took their photos, 260 00:15:32,965 --> 00:15:35,500 and they watched and pointed to where they saw, 261 00:15:35,601 --> 00:15:37,635 they remembered the bodies being buried. 262 00:15:37,736 --> 00:15:39,504 There were young families out there, 263 00:15:39,605 --> 00:15:42,707 and kids with pails and shovels digging in the sand. 264 00:15:42,808 --> 00:15:46,411 It was the weirdest surreal scene you could imagine. 265 00:15:48,547 --> 00:15:50,682 James: I was out there more or less, 266 00:15:50,783 --> 00:15:53,952 I guess, babysitting Henley and Brooks, 267 00:15:54,053 --> 00:15:58,323 while other detectives and other agencies were looking for bodies. 268 00:15:59,458 --> 00:16:02,527 David Owen Brooks was very quiet. 269 00:16:02,628 --> 00:16:05,596 He was just like he was kind of staring off into space. 270 00:16:05,698 --> 00:16:07,065 [ Camera shutter clicks ] 271 00:16:07,166 --> 00:16:09,867 And I tried a couple of times. Since he didn't reply, 272 00:16:09,969 --> 00:16:11,502 I just gave up on it. 273 00:16:12,871 --> 00:16:16,174 I did speak at length with Elmer Wayne Henley Jr. 274 00:16:17,109 --> 00:16:18,843 He was very talkative. 275 00:16:18,944 --> 00:16:21,012 He was just talking like a magpie, you know. 276 00:16:21,714 --> 00:16:23,715 And he was telling me 277 00:16:23,816 --> 00:16:26,551 how they would go out and find boys walking the street. 278 00:16:28,887 --> 00:16:31,956 They'd say, "hey, you want to go to a party? We're going to have a party." 279 00:16:32,057 --> 00:16:34,392 And they would either offer 'em money, 280 00:16:34,493 --> 00:16:37,161 uh, booze, or there'd be girls there. 281 00:16:39,031 --> 00:16:41,232 Narrator: Henley explains that once inside, 282 00:16:41,333 --> 00:16:43,501 the party turned into something different. 283 00:16:45,204 --> 00:16:47,672 James: Henley told me that he had a torture board there. 284 00:16:47,773 --> 00:16:52,010 He said they would tie them on the torture board and molest them. 285 00:16:52,111 --> 00:16:56,748 They would let the boys go and they would come back on more than one occasion. 286 00:16:56,849 --> 00:17:02,153 Then he said when they got tired of 'em, they would kill 'em. 287 00:17:02,254 --> 00:17:05,723 And Henley said, I didn't know how hard it was to strangle someone. 288 00:17:09,695 --> 00:17:12,030 I was just floored by that. 289 00:17:15,067 --> 00:17:17,335 He said that they would load the bodies in the Van. 290 00:17:17,469 --> 00:17:19,937 That's how they removed them from the house, 291 00:17:20,039 --> 00:17:23,274 and they would either Bury 'em or put 'em in the boat stall. 292 00:17:24,777 --> 00:17:28,513 Then they started going to lake Sam Rayburn and high island. 293 00:17:28,614 --> 00:17:29,947 Smith: They all went together, 294 00:17:30,049 --> 00:17:33,951 and usually Brooks drove Dean Corll's white Van, 295 00:17:34,053 --> 00:17:37,188 that had the body box inside, what they called the body box. 296 00:17:39,224 --> 00:17:41,259 Henley sure wasn't upset about it. 297 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:43,327 He never shed a tear. 298 00:17:43,429 --> 00:17:45,329 He just didn't. 299 00:17:45,431 --> 00:17:47,732 It was just another date for him, I guess. 300 00:17:53,839 --> 00:17:55,807 Hollandsworth: Henley and Brooks 301 00:17:55,908 --> 00:17:59,243 didn't just talk teenagers into getting into the Van. 302 00:17:59,344 --> 00:18:01,646 Once they got to the apartment, 303 00:18:01,747 --> 00:18:06,317 they helped get them strapped to the torture board, 304 00:18:06,418 --> 00:18:11,489 they gagged their mouths, they bound their hands. 305 00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:15,526 They put them in position so that Dean could have sex with them. 306 00:18:15,627 --> 00:18:18,496 It was just as vicious as what Dean was doing. 307 00:18:18,597 --> 00:18:21,899 Narrator: It was a brutal, calculated killing machine. 308 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,202 How did Corll buy their silence? 309 00:18:24,303 --> 00:18:27,505 And how did no-one in the heights notice what was happening? 310 00:18:27,606 --> 00:18:28,606 [ Police siren blaring ] 311 00:18:33,112 --> 00:18:35,746 Hollandsworth: I'm still the same staff writer I was 30 years ago. 312 00:18:36,815 --> 00:18:38,783 This is a story without any redemption. 313 00:18:40,519 --> 00:18:46,724 There is nothing but terror and madness and grief in this story. 314 00:18:46,825 --> 00:18:51,162 Before a few days ago, the public had never heard of Dean Allan Corll. 315 00:18:51,263 --> 00:18:56,801 Now he's laid to rest as the state's most publicized murder suspect. 316 00:18:56,902 --> 00:18:59,737 Narrator: Six days after Wayne Henley killed Dean Corll, 317 00:18:59,838 --> 00:19:02,874 the police unearthed the bodies of 27 boys, 318 00:19:02,975 --> 00:19:04,809 seventeen from the boatshed, 319 00:19:04,910 --> 00:19:08,913 six from the beach, and four from lake Sam Rayburn. 320 00:19:09,014 --> 00:19:13,050 This orgy of murder was the worst in American history. 321 00:19:13,152 --> 00:19:16,020 James: I've thought about it every night for a long time. 322 00:19:17,055 --> 00:19:19,891 You still think about it, even today, 323 00:19:19,992 --> 00:19:23,494 and whether or not we got all the bodies. 324 00:19:25,030 --> 00:19:27,865 Narrator: Desperate and angry parents of boys who had disappeared 325 00:19:27,966 --> 00:19:30,635 flooded the police department with calls. 326 00:19:30,736 --> 00:19:35,039 When we went back to pull reports with kids who were still missing, 327 00:19:35,140 --> 00:19:38,209 there was maybe 40 to 50 of those. 328 00:19:38,310 --> 00:19:42,246 We contacted parents, asked for dental records. 329 00:19:42,347 --> 00:19:44,448 Hollandsworth: They were identified through belts, 330 00:19:44,550 --> 00:19:46,083 the tennis shoes they wore. 331 00:19:46,185 --> 00:19:48,953 You know there's no DNA going on back then. 332 00:19:49,054 --> 00:19:50,454 Narrator: At the morgue, 333 00:19:50,556 --> 00:19:53,824 the medical examiner's office worked around the clock. 334 00:19:53,926 --> 00:19:57,094 Families just waited for the knock on the door. 335 00:19:57,196 --> 00:20:00,231 Massey: I personally had to go to the morgue daily. 336 00:20:00,332 --> 00:20:02,300 That was just a horrific experience, 337 00:20:02,401 --> 00:20:05,102 because as soon as you got off the elevator, 338 00:20:05,204 --> 00:20:09,540 the smell of decomposing bodies was just overwhelming. 339 00:20:09,641 --> 00:20:16,080 I don't know how the medical examiners worked in that environment. 340 00:20:17,382 --> 00:20:19,784 When you go back to the family and say, 341 00:20:19,885 --> 00:20:22,887 "your child has been identified, and was a victim," 342 00:20:22,988 --> 00:20:25,990 and it was really, really heartbreaking. 343 00:20:26,091 --> 00:20:29,460 Man on TV: One of the first victims identified was 13-year-old David Hilligiest, 344 00:20:29,561 --> 00:20:31,963 who has been missing for more than two years. 345 00:20:32,064 --> 00:20:34,065 The Hilligiests' had spent thousands of dollars 346 00:20:34,166 --> 00:20:36,601 for private detectives and in advertisements 347 00:20:36,702 --> 00:20:38,603 in underground newspapers in search of their son 348 00:20:38,704 --> 00:20:41,038 and a neighbor who disappeared with him. 349 00:20:41,139 --> 00:20:42,473 I feared from the very beginning 350 00:20:42,574 --> 00:20:45,409 that something had happened to them. 351 00:20:45,510 --> 00:20:46,978 But naturally, along with our fears, 352 00:20:47,079 --> 00:20:49,847 we held our hopes that some day they would come back. 353 00:20:53,652 --> 00:20:56,487 Narrator: David and his 16-year-old friend Malley 354 00:20:56,588 --> 00:20:58,189 disappeared in broad daylight. 355 00:20:59,658 --> 00:21:02,226 Winkle: Malley and David were going swimming, 356 00:21:02,327 --> 00:21:03,995 swimming at the local pool. 357 00:21:06,064 --> 00:21:07,965 The pools open in August, September. 358 00:21:08,934 --> 00:21:10,454 Let's have some fun, let's get with it, 359 00:21:10,535 --> 00:21:11,535 let's do whatever. 360 00:21:13,872 --> 00:21:15,573 And then they were gone. 361 00:21:16,942 --> 00:21:19,944 Narrator: Both boys were barefoot, wearing their swimsuits 362 00:21:20,045 --> 00:21:22,413 and last seen getting into a white Van. 363 00:21:23,815 --> 00:21:26,817 Henley got so involved in this 364 00:21:26,918 --> 00:21:29,620 that he brought his own friends 365 00:21:29,721 --> 00:21:31,722 to meet Corll and later be killed. 366 00:21:32,291 --> 00:21:33,658 David Hilligiest, 367 00:21:33,759 --> 00:21:37,128 who lived just down the block from Henley's home. 368 00:21:37,229 --> 00:21:39,730 Mark Scott, who invited him late 369 00:21:39,831 --> 00:21:41,232 to one of his birthday parties. 370 00:21:41,333 --> 00:21:44,769 Homer Garcia, who was in Henley's driver's ed class. 371 00:21:44,870 --> 00:21:46,137 All of them were murdered. 372 00:21:47,072 --> 00:21:49,540 All of them disappeared. 373 00:21:49,641 --> 00:21:53,177 All of them had parents who drove the streets at night 374 00:21:53,278 --> 00:21:54,979 looking for them. 375 00:21:55,113 --> 00:21:56,981 Winkle: Wayne Henley even put up posters 376 00:21:57,082 --> 00:22:00,384 that they just made for David and Malley. 377 00:22:03,021 --> 00:22:04,632 Uh, he put them up around the neighborhood 378 00:22:04,656 --> 00:22:07,224 and he was responsible for abducting him in the first place. 379 00:22:09,361 --> 00:22:11,696 Malley may have worked for Dean Corll 380 00:22:11,797 --> 00:22:14,231 at the candy shop for a little period of time. 381 00:22:16,635 --> 00:22:18,669 It turns the pit of my stomach. 382 00:22:18,770 --> 00:22:21,939 It is so very scary and painful 383 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,875 that he was that close to that man. 384 00:22:26,378 --> 00:22:28,045 Narrator: Questions swirled. 385 00:22:28,146 --> 00:22:30,448 How could this happen right under their noses? 386 00:22:30,549 --> 00:22:32,083 And of all people, 387 00:22:32,184 --> 00:22:34,552 the guy everyone called the perfect gentleman, 388 00:22:34,653 --> 00:22:35,853 the candy man. 389 00:22:38,323 --> 00:22:40,858 Hollandsworth: Dean Corll grew up in Indiana and Tennessee 390 00:22:40,959 --> 00:22:42,693 his dad was an electrician. 391 00:22:44,129 --> 00:22:46,731 They came to Texas in 1962. 392 00:22:46,832 --> 00:22:48,366 They opened a candy shop. 393 00:22:51,269 --> 00:22:52,603 Dean went to high school. 394 00:22:53,472 --> 00:22:55,306 He played trombone in the band. 395 00:22:56,541 --> 00:22:58,709 He was well-liked, he made decent grades. 396 00:22:58,810 --> 00:23:00,511 He had girls that liked him. 397 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,447 He went to the us army. 398 00:23:03,548 --> 00:23:06,350 He became an expert in radio operations. 399 00:23:07,786 --> 00:23:10,855 He came back to Houston, worked for his mom, 400 00:23:10,956 --> 00:23:12,757 became the neighborhood candy man. 401 00:23:17,295 --> 00:23:20,698 His mom gets divorced, she marries a merchant marine. 402 00:23:20,799 --> 00:23:23,000 And he says to her, 403 00:23:23,101 --> 00:23:25,302 "you know, I think there's something wrong with Dean. 404 00:23:25,404 --> 00:23:27,772 I think he's got some homosexual tendencies. 405 00:23:27,873 --> 00:23:30,841 He sure does like being around other boys." 406 00:23:31,710 --> 00:23:34,011 His mother was so upset 407 00:23:34,112 --> 00:23:37,014 that she divorced the merchant marine 408 00:23:37,115 --> 00:23:39,717 and she closed the candy factory and moved to Colorado. 409 00:23:40,886 --> 00:23:43,454 Now she might have assumed that Dean, 410 00:23:43,555 --> 00:23:46,690 who was so close to her, would come with her. 411 00:23:46,792 --> 00:23:49,193 But he said, I'm staying in Houston, 412 00:23:49,294 --> 00:23:51,829 and I'm gonna work at the Houston power and light company 413 00:23:51,930 --> 00:23:52,997 as a lineman, 414 00:23:53,098 --> 00:23:55,833 and for the first time he was alone, 415 00:23:55,934 --> 00:23:57,401 he had an apartment, 416 00:23:57,502 --> 00:24:00,004 and that's when something came unleashed in him. 417 00:24:02,774 --> 00:24:05,709 Narrator: Corll felt free to act on his dark desires 418 00:24:05,811 --> 00:24:08,379 and lured two teens from the neighborhood 419 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,915 to be part of his killing machine. 420 00:24:11,016 --> 00:24:14,151 As Brooks and Henley got involved, 421 00:24:14,252 --> 00:24:17,655 the candy turned to sex parties and weed. 422 00:24:19,191 --> 00:24:22,493 Brooks was a boy of about 12 423 00:24:22,627 --> 00:24:25,596 who started coming over to the candy factory, 424 00:24:25,697 --> 00:24:30,000 and so had known the Corlls for a long time, 425 00:24:30,101 --> 00:24:31,669 and would hang out there 426 00:24:31,770 --> 00:24:35,873 because he had no father to watch over him, 427 00:24:35,974 --> 00:24:40,010 and his mother sort of was happy that he had some place to go. 428 00:24:40,912 --> 00:24:44,215 Brooks' father said, 429 00:24:44,316 --> 00:24:45,816 "Dean's the first grown man I know 430 00:24:45,917 --> 00:24:47,351 that hasn't made fun of you." 431 00:24:49,321 --> 00:24:52,823 Corll had an apartment at the Yorktown apartments, 432 00:24:52,924 --> 00:24:55,559 which was a place where a lot of young singles 433 00:24:55,660 --> 00:24:58,429 were starting to make their first marks in business 434 00:24:58,530 --> 00:25:00,197 and economy, and in Houston. 435 00:25:01,433 --> 00:25:05,736 And it was there that he brought David Brooks, 436 00:25:05,837 --> 00:25:09,974 who is this aesthetic-looking, pimply-faced young man 437 00:25:10,075 --> 00:25:12,910 who a lot of kids made fun of because of the way he looked. 438 00:25:13,011 --> 00:25:16,313 He had long blonde hair. He wore thick aviator glasses. 439 00:25:18,083 --> 00:25:20,551 Dean had given him money and he'd bought him a car. 440 00:25:20,652 --> 00:25:22,052 He had taken care of him 441 00:25:22,153 --> 00:25:25,155 in a way that his own father had not. 442 00:25:25,257 --> 00:25:27,925 And Brooks sort of saw Dean as a father figure. 443 00:25:29,761 --> 00:25:31,595 When Dean asked Brooks to pull down his pants 444 00:25:31,696 --> 00:25:33,474 so he could give him what Texas law at the time 445 00:25:33,498 --> 00:25:36,033 described as oral sodomy, 446 00:25:36,134 --> 00:25:37,334 David did it. 447 00:25:39,571 --> 00:25:41,572 It wasn't that David was gay. 448 00:25:41,673 --> 00:25:43,641 David felt like that's what he had to do 449 00:25:43,742 --> 00:25:47,044 to continue to keep his father figure's affection. 450 00:25:49,147 --> 00:25:51,382 A few weeks after that happened, 451 00:25:51,483 --> 00:25:53,918 David goes up to the apartment 452 00:25:54,019 --> 00:25:56,153 and just assumed he could walk in, 453 00:25:56,254 --> 00:25:58,289 and he saw Dean having anal sex 454 00:25:58,390 --> 00:26:00,925 with two terrified teenage boys on the bed. 455 00:26:02,093 --> 00:26:03,827 And Dean said, "get out of here." 456 00:26:04,963 --> 00:26:06,330 Later, Dean told David 457 00:26:06,431 --> 00:26:08,232 that he shot both of those boys 458 00:26:08,333 --> 00:26:09,867 and buried them in a boat shed. 459 00:26:13,371 --> 00:26:15,205 So he initially went to David and said, 460 00:26:15,307 --> 00:26:16,941 "this is what I'm doing. 461 00:26:17,042 --> 00:26:18,842 If you will bring me boys, 462 00:26:18,944 --> 00:26:21,211 I will pay you $ 200 per boy." 463 00:26:24,082 --> 00:26:26,383 And he began to lure boys into the Van, 464 00:26:26,484 --> 00:26:28,619 saying, "hey, we've got some marijuana, 465 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:29,720 we have some beer." 466 00:26:32,424 --> 00:26:34,858 And then one of the boys he lured into the Van 467 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,560 was Elmer Wayne Henley, 468 00:26:36,661 --> 00:26:39,997 who came from a broken home as did David. 469 00:26:40,098 --> 00:26:41,966 And Elmer got involved, 470 00:26:42,067 --> 00:26:46,704 and he began to help recruit other boys 471 00:26:46,805 --> 00:26:49,306 and brought them into the Van or the car 472 00:26:49,407 --> 00:26:51,108 and took them to one of Dean's apartments. 473 00:26:52,310 --> 00:26:55,312 Dean was so well-liked by these kids, 474 00:26:55,413 --> 00:26:58,649 parents who got to know him, that they invited him over. 475 00:26:59,784 --> 00:27:02,219 Henley's mom invited Dean over for dinner, 476 00:27:02,354 --> 00:27:05,356 and Dean took the time to fix her car. 477 00:27:05,457 --> 00:27:10,194 So she was very aware that her son, Wayne, 478 00:27:10,295 --> 00:27:12,196 was hanging out with Dean Corll, 479 00:27:12,297 --> 00:27:14,465 and it didn't bother her whatsoever. 480 00:27:15,867 --> 00:27:20,838 In a way, you can understand every 15 or 16 year old boy 481 00:27:20,939 --> 00:27:24,074 who's lonely, who feels like an outcast, 482 00:27:24,175 --> 00:27:26,443 who's embraced by this other kind of person. 483 00:27:27,178 --> 00:27:29,113 You can understand it, 484 00:27:29,214 --> 00:27:33,550 but you just never expect it to go as far as it did. 485 00:27:47,732 --> 00:27:50,868 Narrator: Dean Corll has been dead for almost 50 years. 486 00:27:50,935 --> 00:27:53,570 But what he did to 16-year-old Malley winkle 487 00:27:53,672 --> 00:27:55,839 still haunts his brother, Ben. 488 00:27:58,376 --> 00:28:01,145 I mean, he was a good kid. He was a good brother. 489 00:28:03,682 --> 00:28:05,249 I always wanted to hang out with Malley. 490 00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:06,784 I always wanted to be with him. 491 00:28:10,321 --> 00:28:12,489 We'd just run around, do things that kids did. 492 00:28:15,527 --> 00:28:17,761 We slept in the same room together, so, and... 493 00:28:17,862 --> 00:28:20,698 He took care of me as best he could. 494 00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:22,977 Right? He tried to make sure I didn't get in any trouble 495 00:28:23,001 --> 00:28:24,001 and stuff like that. 496 00:28:24,469 --> 00:28:26,336 Kid: What's your name? 497 00:28:26,438 --> 00:28:29,173 - Malley winkle. - Malley winkle? 498 00:28:29,974 --> 00:28:32,543 Uh, what's your city? 499 00:28:32,644 --> 00:28:33,944 Houston. 500 00:28:35,747 --> 00:28:38,415 Narrator: But, like many of the other murdered boys, 501 00:28:38,516 --> 00:28:40,350 Ben's family was broken. 502 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,120 Winkle: When I was eight, 503 00:28:43,188 --> 00:28:46,290 my mom, she actually lost everything. 504 00:28:47,692 --> 00:28:51,095 She was a single mom working two of our ships. 505 00:28:51,196 --> 00:28:53,130 A lot of the time we were there by ourselves. 506 00:28:54,032 --> 00:28:55,632 That was a big deal. My mom would say, 507 00:28:55,734 --> 00:28:57,901 "Malley, take Ben with you and take care of him." 508 00:29:00,105 --> 00:29:01,105 His dating. 509 00:29:01,172 --> 00:29:03,741 He was trying to date. I always remember... 510 00:29:03,842 --> 00:29:05,309 The concept of him trying to date, 511 00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:07,544 you know, 15, 16-year-old kid. 512 00:29:08,913 --> 00:29:10,647 I always wanted to be with him. 513 00:29:10,749 --> 00:29:12,883 And as an eight-year older brother, 514 00:29:12,984 --> 00:29:14,351 he never wanted me to be with him. 515 00:29:17,422 --> 00:29:19,757 My mom, when she wasn't home, 516 00:29:19,858 --> 00:29:21,358 I wasn't home either. 517 00:29:23,094 --> 00:29:25,662 And she just couldn't control me. 518 00:29:26,664 --> 00:29:28,632 She had placed me into a boy's home 519 00:29:28,733 --> 00:29:30,701 called boy's harbor in la Porte, Texas. 520 00:29:33,471 --> 00:29:35,639 And she tried to get Malley into the harbor as well. 521 00:29:35,740 --> 00:29:36,907 And he didn't get in. 522 00:29:37,008 --> 00:29:39,042 I don't know if it was his age or what, 523 00:29:39,144 --> 00:29:40,544 uh, but he wasn't allowed in. 524 00:29:42,714 --> 00:29:44,882 He had come out on one of the visiting Sundays, 525 00:29:44,983 --> 00:29:47,050 and that's when that picture was taken. 526 00:29:48,553 --> 00:29:50,687 And in the following year, he was abducted. 527 00:29:52,857 --> 00:29:54,324 He was found in the boat shed. 528 00:29:58,596 --> 00:30:02,032 Obviously, later in life, I learned the truth 529 00:30:02,133 --> 00:30:06,804 and, uh, it has been very painful since then. 530 00:30:11,075 --> 00:30:13,911 Narrator: Back in '73 when Henley shot Corll 531 00:30:14,012 --> 00:30:15,946 and the story hit the newspapers, 532 00:30:16,047 --> 00:30:19,483 20-year old Bernie Milligan could think of only one name. 533 00:30:20,718 --> 00:30:24,154 Milligan: Frank Aguirre was one of the missing kids, 534 00:30:24,255 --> 00:30:27,491 and he and I had attended Hamilton junior high together. 535 00:30:27,592 --> 00:30:28,859 We had a lot of mutual friends. 536 00:30:30,929 --> 00:30:34,731 I had no idea who the perpetrators were 537 00:30:34,833 --> 00:30:38,468 until I opened that newspaper and saw their faces. 538 00:30:38,570 --> 00:30:41,338 Narrator: One of those faces was Dean Corll. 539 00:30:43,508 --> 00:30:44,842 He and I had an encounter. 540 00:30:46,678 --> 00:30:48,045 Narrator: Three years earlier, 541 00:30:48,146 --> 00:30:50,814 Corll tried to lure Bernie into his car. 542 00:30:52,584 --> 00:30:56,053 Milligan: As I was walking, Corll approached me 543 00:30:56,154 --> 00:30:58,155 on the side with his lights off. 544 00:30:59,991 --> 00:31:02,226 He kept trying to offer me a ride. 545 00:31:02,327 --> 00:31:05,896 "Hey, man, I'll drive you wherever you want to go", 546 00:31:05,997 --> 00:31:07,998 and I'm trying to be very clear, 547 00:31:08,099 --> 00:31:11,068 I'm not gonna take a ride in anyone's car. 548 00:31:13,571 --> 00:31:15,873 And he finally said, "hey, be a guy." 549 00:31:15,974 --> 00:31:18,809 That was the first strange thing I heard out of him. 550 00:31:20,044 --> 00:31:21,645 And he got a little more insistent, 551 00:31:21,746 --> 00:31:23,213 and I took off. 552 00:31:23,314 --> 00:31:25,015 [ Running footsteps ] 553 00:31:25,116 --> 00:31:26,984 Thank goodness I was an athlete, 554 00:31:27,085 --> 00:31:29,453 because I was making tracks, running. 555 00:31:31,422 --> 00:31:34,057 I would stop and stand in an alley 556 00:31:34,158 --> 00:31:37,094 'cause I could hear him with those lights on, driving around. 557 00:31:39,998 --> 00:31:42,966 And, uh, finally, I lost him. 558 00:31:46,471 --> 00:31:47,871 I told my mother about it. 559 00:31:47,972 --> 00:31:49,206 We didn't call the police 560 00:31:49,307 --> 00:31:51,508 'cause I didn't have a description of the car. 561 00:31:51,609 --> 00:31:52,943 I focused on him. 562 00:31:56,714 --> 00:31:59,516 Narrator: Bernie has a second encounter with Corll. 563 00:31:59,617 --> 00:32:02,786 This time, Corll brings his friends. 564 00:32:02,887 --> 00:32:05,289 Milligan: I turned around and there was a car. 565 00:32:05,390 --> 00:32:07,057 There sat David Brooks 566 00:32:07,158 --> 00:32:10,327 and Elmer Wayne Henley was in the back seat. 567 00:32:10,995 --> 00:32:12,029 And there was a driver, 568 00:32:12,130 --> 00:32:14,031 but I couldn't see the driver from where I was. 569 00:32:15,633 --> 00:32:18,201 David Brooks goes, "hey, we're heading up to Sam Rayburn. 570 00:32:18,303 --> 00:32:19,703 Would you like to go fishing?" 571 00:32:21,205 --> 00:32:23,840 And I noticed the driver looked through, 572 00:32:23,942 --> 00:32:25,742 turned his head to the side, 573 00:32:25,843 --> 00:32:29,012 and uh, he recognized me. 574 00:32:29,113 --> 00:32:30,714 I didn't know Dean Corll's name. 575 00:32:30,815 --> 00:32:32,683 I only recognized him as the guy 576 00:32:32,784 --> 00:32:34,952 in September of 1969. 577 00:32:36,220 --> 00:32:40,023 And all he said was, "we have to go right now," 578 00:32:40,124 --> 00:32:42,392 and threw the car into drive. 579 00:32:44,796 --> 00:32:47,664 Narrator: Once again, Bernie escaped Carl's grasp. 580 00:32:48,766 --> 00:32:51,234 One month later, Corll was dead, 581 00:32:51,336 --> 00:32:53,637 shot by his buddy Wayne Henley. 582 00:32:57,275 --> 00:32:59,209 A few weeks after the news broke, 583 00:32:59,310 --> 00:33:01,311 there were whispers around the heights 584 00:33:01,412 --> 00:33:02,813 that both Henley and Brooks 585 00:33:02,914 --> 00:33:05,182 were trying to break free from Corll. 586 00:33:05,283 --> 00:33:08,618 Milligan: Brooks was terrified for his life. 587 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,021 He had just got married and he had a child. 588 00:33:11,122 --> 00:33:13,991 He was going to have to break away 589 00:33:14,092 --> 00:33:15,692 from what was going on. 590 00:33:17,195 --> 00:33:20,130 The story I received 591 00:33:20,231 --> 00:33:23,767 is David would take a couch or chair, 592 00:33:23,868 --> 00:33:25,635 and move it in front of the door every night 593 00:33:25,737 --> 00:33:28,638 and sit with a shotgun... 594 00:33:28,740 --> 00:33:32,509 Thinking that Henley and Dean Corll were gonna break through the door 595 00:33:32,610 --> 00:33:34,611 and kill him and Bridget and the baby. 596 00:33:36,547 --> 00:33:39,249 He had apparently confessed to his father. 597 00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:42,352 His father had informed David that the supreme court 598 00:33:42,453 --> 00:33:45,822 was working on outlawing the death penalty. 599 00:33:45,923 --> 00:33:47,457 Keep your mouth shut. 600 00:33:48,026 --> 00:33:49,459 This is what I was told. 601 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,995 I did not hear it from David Brooks 602 00:33:52,096 --> 00:33:53,330 or even Bridget myself. 603 00:33:53,431 --> 00:33:56,233 Narrator: Henley also feared for his life. 604 00:33:56,334 --> 00:33:59,736 Dean told him he belonged to an organization out of Dallas 605 00:33:59,837 --> 00:34:02,039 that bought and sold boys. 606 00:34:02,140 --> 00:34:03,140 Henley said, 607 00:34:03,207 --> 00:34:05,475 "Dean told me his organization would get me 608 00:34:05,576 --> 00:34:07,844 if I ever did anything to him. 609 00:34:07,945 --> 00:34:09,880 He said he tried to tell his mother, 610 00:34:09,981 --> 00:34:12,249 but she just wouldn't believe me." 611 00:34:12,350 --> 00:34:14,718 Hollandsworth: The truth is that Mrs. Henley needed money. 612 00:34:14,819 --> 00:34:15,819 She was divorced, 613 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,000 and her husband wasn't giving her much child support. 614 00:34:19,090 --> 00:34:22,092 And so Wayne getting $200 615 00:34:22,193 --> 00:34:24,261 is a huge deal, 616 00:34:24,362 --> 00:34:28,031 even if it required him to turn a boy in to be killed. 617 00:34:30,334 --> 00:34:36,139 If Henley had not mentioned the boat shed to the police, 618 00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:38,542 how are the police gonna know about it? 619 00:34:38,643 --> 00:34:41,511 It just could have been this one sort of crazed night 620 00:34:41,612 --> 00:34:44,881 of paint huffing in a house in Pasadena 621 00:34:44,982 --> 00:34:47,751 with Dean Corll and three teenagers. 622 00:34:47,852 --> 00:34:49,519 And no one would have made the connection 623 00:34:49,620 --> 00:34:51,054 to the other disappearing boys. 624 00:34:51,155 --> 00:34:53,023 No one had made that connection yet. 625 00:34:53,124 --> 00:34:54,491 Why would they start now? 626 00:35:00,331 --> 00:35:01,832 I don't mean this to sound crass. 627 00:35:01,933 --> 00:35:03,800 I mean, there's pedophilia, 628 00:35:03,901 --> 00:35:06,002 and then there's this stuff that Dean Corll did. 629 00:35:07,271 --> 00:35:08,605 He would do this game with them 630 00:35:08,706 --> 00:35:10,474 where he would put handcuffs on them and say, 631 00:35:10,575 --> 00:35:13,009 "let's see how quickly you can get your handcuffs off." 632 00:35:14,278 --> 00:35:15,946 He would do the handcuff game first, 633 00:35:16,047 --> 00:35:18,582 then he would give the handcuffs to the other boy. 634 00:35:18,683 --> 00:35:21,284 That boy could not get the handcuffs off, 635 00:35:21,385 --> 00:35:23,186 and that's when it began. 636 00:35:24,422 --> 00:35:26,022 It's so hard to talk about, 637 00:35:26,124 --> 00:35:28,425 and I've covered a lot of crimes. 638 00:35:28,526 --> 00:35:30,861 When I realized that this was going on 639 00:35:30,962 --> 00:35:35,532 in what is now this beautiful yuppie neighborhood, 640 00:35:35,633 --> 00:35:37,334 that back then, the kind of depravity 641 00:35:37,435 --> 00:35:39,603 that just does not seem possible... 642 00:35:39,704 --> 00:35:41,838 It's still hard for me to imagine. 643 00:35:44,075 --> 00:35:46,743 Of these 28 eight boys who were killed 644 00:35:46,844 --> 00:35:48,945 in the most gruesome of fashion, 645 00:35:49,046 --> 00:35:51,481 at least 22 of them had grown up 646 00:35:51,582 --> 00:35:53,416 in a neighborhood called the heights. 647 00:35:53,518 --> 00:35:58,522 11 of those boys went to the same junior high school. 648 00:35:58,623 --> 00:36:00,490 Newsreader: The Houston police department says 649 00:36:00,591 --> 00:36:02,526 it gets more than 5,000 reports 650 00:36:02,627 --> 00:36:04,361 of runaway children each year, 651 00:36:04,462 --> 00:36:06,763 and there is no way to check them out thoroughly. 652 00:36:06,864 --> 00:36:08,632 They say there aren't enough policemen. 653 00:36:10,468 --> 00:36:13,470 Narrator: Between 1971 and 1973, 654 00:36:13,571 --> 00:36:16,740 more than 400 kids were reported missing in the heights, 655 00:36:16,841 --> 00:36:19,843 an area two miles wide and three miles deep. 656 00:36:19,944 --> 00:36:21,278 Smith: It was a different time. 657 00:36:22,446 --> 00:36:24,714 Kids hitchhiked all over. 658 00:36:24,815 --> 00:36:26,816 Some of these victims were hitchhikers. 659 00:36:28,152 --> 00:36:31,288 You know, it was the age of drugs, sex and rock and roll. 660 00:36:32,590 --> 00:36:34,524 Hollandsworth: It was a strange time in America 661 00:36:34,625 --> 00:36:38,562 because there were a lot of boys who did disappear. 662 00:36:38,663 --> 00:36:42,699 And there were, in truth, some boys who ran away 663 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,202 and some boys who wanted to go see 664 00:36:45,303 --> 00:36:47,737 what the other part of the world was like. 665 00:36:47,838 --> 00:36:50,974 Narrator: Back then, being a runaway wasn't a crime 666 00:36:51,075 --> 00:36:54,077 nor a priority for the police. 667 00:36:54,178 --> 00:36:57,047 Runaways or missing persons who were juveniles 668 00:36:57,148 --> 00:37:00,317 was handled by a division called the juvenile division, 669 00:37:00,418 --> 00:37:02,052 which was separate from homicide. 670 00:37:02,153 --> 00:37:03,653 They were on the fourth floor, 671 00:37:03,754 --> 00:37:06,122 we were on the third floor. 672 00:37:06,224 --> 00:37:08,258 Smith: Offense reports by patrol officers 673 00:37:08,359 --> 00:37:10,627 were frequently hand-written. 674 00:37:10,728 --> 00:37:13,096 In fact, the juvenile division, the way it was set up, 675 00:37:13,197 --> 00:37:16,233 we did all of our reporting on manual typewriters. 676 00:37:16,334 --> 00:37:18,935 There was probably only two or three electric typewriters 677 00:37:19,036 --> 00:37:21,004 in the whole division for a hundred people. 678 00:37:22,707 --> 00:37:25,875 Narrator: 14-year-old Jimmy glass, one of the first victims, 679 00:37:25,977 --> 00:37:28,778 disappeared in December of 1970. 680 00:37:28,879 --> 00:37:32,315 He was last seen leaving a church service. 681 00:37:32,416 --> 00:37:35,318 Hollandsworth: Jimmy glass had run away from home before 682 00:37:35,419 --> 00:37:37,087 for a very brief amount of time. 683 00:37:37,188 --> 00:37:39,923 But when the juvenile officer for the Houston police department 684 00:37:40,024 --> 00:37:42,993 was assigned that case and learned this, 685 00:37:43,094 --> 00:37:46,129 he shut the file, figuring he'd just run away again. 686 00:37:46,230 --> 00:37:48,765 It happened over and over and over. 687 00:37:49,567 --> 00:37:51,301 It was totally mishandled. 688 00:37:51,402 --> 00:37:54,904 And as that grief began to pour out, 689 00:37:55,006 --> 00:37:57,707 there was a lot of anger at the cops. 690 00:37:57,808 --> 00:37:59,476 We have the statistical data on it, 691 00:37:59,577 --> 00:38:01,978 exactly how many were reported missing, 692 00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:03,780 and we see nothing over that period of time 693 00:38:03,881 --> 00:38:05,161 that indicated a pattern at all. 694 00:38:05,216 --> 00:38:07,717 As a matter of fact, we had a lot heavier incidents 695 00:38:07,818 --> 00:38:10,153 in some of the other districts. 696 00:38:10,254 --> 00:38:12,055 Hollandsworth: Herman short said, 697 00:38:12,156 --> 00:38:14,057 "the problem here is the parents. 698 00:38:14,158 --> 00:38:17,160 The parents need to keep more control over their boys, 699 00:38:17,261 --> 00:38:19,729 otherwise these boys would not have any problems." 700 00:38:19,830 --> 00:38:22,632 Some of these parents are not exactly 701 00:38:22,733 --> 00:38:24,768 uh, discharging their own responsibility 702 00:38:24,869 --> 00:38:27,470 so far as these runaways are concerned, 703 00:38:27,571 --> 00:38:31,041 so far is raising and disciplining their children. 704 00:38:33,377 --> 00:38:36,546 Hollandsworth: These parents would come to the Houston police and say, 705 00:38:36,647 --> 00:38:39,149 "my boy just doesn't run away from home. 706 00:38:39,250 --> 00:38:43,119 He was packed and ready to go on a family vacation the next day. 707 00:38:43,220 --> 00:38:44,721 He's disappeared. 708 00:38:44,822 --> 00:38:46,790 Something horrible has happened to him." 709 00:38:46,891 --> 00:38:48,658 And the Houston police said, 710 00:38:48,759 --> 00:38:52,862 "ma'am, there's just a lot of runaways in America at this time." 711 00:38:52,963 --> 00:38:54,364 This is the hippie era. 712 00:38:54,465 --> 00:38:55,532 They get disgruntled 713 00:38:55,633 --> 00:38:57,177 and they're told to run away by their friends, 714 00:38:57,201 --> 00:38:59,035 and that's what they do. 715 00:38:59,136 --> 00:39:02,038 Narrator: Ben knows his brother was no runaway. 716 00:39:02,139 --> 00:39:03,440 Winkle: Malley and David, 717 00:39:03,541 --> 00:39:05,608 they were just going down there to go swimming. 718 00:39:06,544 --> 00:39:07,824 Do you run away in your swimsuit? 719 00:39:07,878 --> 00:39:09,479 I mean, that doesn't make any sense. 720 00:39:16,554 --> 00:39:18,054 Newsreader: Under Texas law, 721 00:39:18,155 --> 00:39:20,423 Elmer Wayne Henry faced a maximum sentence 722 00:39:20,524 --> 00:39:23,526 of life imprisonment for each of the six murders. 723 00:39:23,627 --> 00:39:25,295 After less than an hour's deliberation, 724 00:39:25,396 --> 00:39:27,397 they returned the maximum penalty: 725 00:39:27,498 --> 00:39:30,867 Six separate 99-year sentences. 726 00:39:30,968 --> 00:39:33,269 Narrator: Nine months later, David Owen Brooks 727 00:39:33,371 --> 00:39:35,372 was convicted of one murder: 728 00:39:35,473 --> 00:39:39,042 The strangulation of 15-year-old Billy ray Lawrence, 729 00:39:39,143 --> 00:39:40,877 and received a life sentence. 730 00:39:44,548 --> 00:39:47,784 With Corll dead and his two accomplices behind bars, 731 00:39:47,885 --> 00:39:51,521 the Houston mass murders faded from the headlines. 732 00:39:51,622 --> 00:39:53,757 America's fascination with serial killers 733 00:39:53,858 --> 00:39:55,959 was still years in the future, 734 00:39:56,060 --> 00:40:00,597 but for many of the families, the grief lasts a lifetime. 735 00:40:00,698 --> 00:40:02,966 Winkle: My mom, it destroyed her. 736 00:40:04,034 --> 00:40:07,003 His murder overshadowed most everything else. 737 00:40:08,606 --> 00:40:10,140 She made the ultimate sacrifice. 738 00:40:11,142 --> 00:40:13,076 She gave up one son 739 00:40:13,177 --> 00:40:15,512 by putting me in the harbor, boy's harbor, 740 00:40:15,613 --> 00:40:17,213 and then she lost her other son. 741 00:40:19,450 --> 00:40:21,785 He was very innocent. He was just an innocent kid. 742 00:40:22,653 --> 00:40:23,853 He never really had a chance. 743 00:40:35,232 --> 00:40:38,334 Narrator: Unluckier still are the families of Corll's victims 744 00:40:38,436 --> 00:40:40,937 whose bodies were never identified. 745 00:40:45,176 --> 00:40:47,277 Dr. Sharon Derrick started a new job 746 00:40:47,378 --> 00:40:50,480 at the Harris county medical examiner's office in Houston. 747 00:40:51,882 --> 00:40:54,184 As she looked around her new workplace, 748 00:40:54,285 --> 00:40:57,220 something old suddenly became new again. 749 00:40:58,122 --> 00:41:00,356 Dr. Derrick: I saw these three boxes 750 00:41:00,424 --> 00:41:04,461 and each of them said "Houston mass murders" on them. 751 00:41:04,528 --> 00:41:08,064 And I immediately clicked back to when I was in high school. 752 00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:11,167 And I thought, "oh, my gosh, 753 00:41:11,268 --> 00:41:13,503 they have some of the remains from that 754 00:41:13,604 --> 00:41:14,971 and they're not identified?" 755 00:41:15,072 --> 00:41:18,641 I was kind of star struck at the three boxes, 756 00:41:18,742 --> 00:41:19,843 to tell you the truth. 757 00:41:21,345 --> 00:41:23,480 And so I asked the deputy chief 758 00:41:23,581 --> 00:41:25,348 may I be assigned these cases, 759 00:41:25,449 --> 00:41:26,816 and he said yes. 760 00:41:26,917 --> 00:41:28,751 Narrator: It wasn't going to be easy. 761 00:41:28,853 --> 00:41:31,988 Those boxes contain the forgotten bones and bits 762 00:41:32,089 --> 00:41:35,225 of the last nameless victims of the candy man. 763 00:41:36,193 --> 00:41:37,827 It became a lot more than just 764 00:41:37,928 --> 00:41:40,296 putting the bones on the table and sorting them out. 765 00:41:40,397 --> 00:41:43,433 You had to look back into all of the old files 766 00:41:43,534 --> 00:41:44,968 that are still present. 767 00:41:45,069 --> 00:41:46,636 There aren't very many. 768 00:41:46,737 --> 00:41:49,806 Narrator: Since 2006, with the help of DNA, 769 00:41:49,907 --> 00:41:52,909 she's identified five of those boys. 770 00:41:53,010 --> 00:41:54,677 One last boy remains. 771 00:41:55,913 --> 00:41:59,949 We need family who think they might have had a victim 772 00:42:00,050 --> 00:42:04,654 of this terrible crime submit DNA. 773 00:42:04,755 --> 00:42:07,824 Narrator: If the last nameless boy wasn't from the heights, 774 00:42:07,925 --> 00:42:09,893 where did he come from? 775 00:42:09,994 --> 00:42:13,062 Boys were disappearing across America, 776 00:42:13,163 --> 00:42:15,164 and a thousand miles away, 777 00:42:15,266 --> 00:42:19,302 a similar monster had just begun operating in plain sight. 778 00:42:19,403 --> 00:42:22,071 He just hadn't been caught yet. 779 00:42:22,172 --> 00:42:24,474 When John Wayne Gacy the clown 780 00:42:24,575 --> 00:42:26,910 began his rampage in Chicago, 781 00:42:27,912 --> 00:42:29,412 and when it was finally discovered 782 00:42:29,513 --> 00:42:32,482 that he had numerous boys in the basement of his home, 783 00:42:33,350 --> 00:42:35,251 you had to wonder 784 00:42:35,352 --> 00:42:38,288 if Gacy was nothing more than a copycat of Dean Corll. 785 00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:55,405 Most of the the boys that Gacy killed were street kids, 786 00:42:55,506 --> 00:43:00,543 runaways, people who have been involved with the law. 787 00:43:00,644 --> 00:43:06,182 Gacy's problem came when he picked a good kid to take. 788 00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:12,221 Narrator: It's two weeks before Christmas. 789 00:43:12,323 --> 00:43:14,791 The parents of 15-year-old Robert Piest 790 00:43:14,892 --> 00:43:16,693 come into the Des Plaines police station 791 00:43:16,794 --> 00:43:19,195 to report their son's disappearance. 792 00:43:19,296 --> 00:43:23,566 It's only been a few hours, but they're worried. 793 00:43:23,667 --> 00:43:26,970 The hippie era was ending. 794 00:43:27,071 --> 00:43:31,007 I mean, it was not uncommon for kids to run away. 795 00:43:31,108 --> 00:43:33,076 Tovar: Maybe they're out drinking. 796 00:43:33,177 --> 00:43:35,411 Maybe that young man got lucky 797 00:43:35,512 --> 00:43:39,315 with a young lady somewhere, you know. 798 00:43:39,416 --> 00:43:43,586 It started off just as a simple missing person's, you know? 799 00:43:43,687 --> 00:43:46,222 It wasn't a big deal at the time. 800 00:43:46,323 --> 00:43:48,725 Narrator: Rob Piest worked part-time as a stock boy 801 00:43:48,826 --> 00:43:51,361 at Nisson pharmacy in Des Plaines. 802 00:43:51,462 --> 00:43:55,164 He worked the day shift and was wrapping up for the evening. 803 00:43:55,265 --> 00:43:58,334 His mom had come to pick him up. 804 00:43:58,435 --> 00:44:00,803 Albrecht: Actually, that was his mother's birthday, 805 00:44:00,904 --> 00:44:05,508 and they're gonna do their birthday celebration. 806 00:44:05,609 --> 00:44:07,944 Sullivan: At closing time, he just told her, 807 00:44:08,045 --> 00:44:11,314 "mom, I'm gonna talk to this guy about a job." 808 00:44:11,415 --> 00:44:13,516 He'd be right back. 809 00:44:13,617 --> 00:44:15,451 And he never came back. 810 00:44:15,552 --> 00:44:17,787 Narrator: The Piest family is adamant 811 00:44:17,888 --> 00:44:19,722 Rob wouldn't leave his mom waiting, 812 00:44:19,823 --> 00:44:21,791 especially on her birthday. 813 00:44:21,892 --> 00:44:23,826 Sullivan: They knew that there was a man 814 00:44:23,927 --> 00:44:26,896 by the name of John Gacy who Rob had talked to, 815 00:44:26,997 --> 00:44:28,531 but they couldn't find him 816 00:44:28,632 --> 00:44:31,234 or couldn't find anything about him. 817 00:44:31,335 --> 00:44:32,712 Albrecht: And the officer that handled it, 818 00:44:32,736 --> 00:44:35,071 he took the report and made a point 819 00:44:35,172 --> 00:44:38,141 of talking to the juvenile division. 820 00:44:38,242 --> 00:44:39,552 And a lot of times what happened, these kids 821 00:44:39,576 --> 00:44:42,111 weren't entered into the computer as missings right away. 822 00:44:42,212 --> 00:44:46,916 But he felt there was something different about this case. 823 00:44:47,017 --> 00:44:49,919 Narrator: Still, the Piests are told nothing can be done 824 00:44:49,987 --> 00:44:51,387 until the morning. 825 00:44:51,488 --> 00:44:55,491 A missing-person report normally carries a 24-hour waiting period 826 00:44:55,592 --> 00:44:58,428 before the police investigate. 827 00:44:58,529 --> 00:45:01,431 The parents were out all night looking for anything 828 00:45:01,532 --> 00:45:02,865 that they possibly could, 829 00:45:02,966 --> 00:45:07,003 all the way from the priest at the Greek church 830 00:45:07,104 --> 00:45:10,406 to Christmas-tree lots 831 00:45:10,507 --> 00:45:15,111 to everything to try to find anybody who knew about it. 832 00:45:17,181 --> 00:45:18,614 Narrator: The next morning, 833 00:45:18,716 --> 00:45:21,184 Rob's parents are back at the police station 834 00:45:21,285 --> 00:45:24,620 looking for an update... Anything. 835 00:45:24,722 --> 00:45:27,824 Here's a young man who all of a sudden disappears, 836 00:45:27,925 --> 00:45:31,527 and it's his mother's birthday. 837 00:45:31,628 --> 00:45:36,265 He was not a problem in school, a good student. 838 00:45:36,366 --> 00:45:37,734 Tovar: You know, in my job, 839 00:45:37,835 --> 00:45:40,403 I've seen many, many dysfunctional families. 840 00:45:40,504 --> 00:45:43,206 This was not one of them. This was a good family. 841 00:45:43,307 --> 00:45:45,374 All seemed to care about each other. 842 00:45:45,476 --> 00:45:47,677 It just didn't fit. 843 00:45:47,778 --> 00:45:49,746 I did a criminal-history check on all the people 844 00:45:49,847 --> 00:45:52,615 that were listed in the report. 845 00:45:52,716 --> 00:45:56,419 A man called John Wayne Gacy had been in the drugstore 846 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,554 that night before. 847 00:45:58,655 --> 00:46:01,157 We learned that he was a contractor. 848 00:46:01,258 --> 00:46:07,096 He was doing some estimating or talking to the owner. 849 00:46:07,197 --> 00:46:11,300 He was an ex-con out of Iowa, and he had a criminal history 850 00:46:11,401 --> 00:46:13,402 which involved sodomy of a child. 851 00:46:13,504 --> 00:46:15,104 [ Camera shutter clicks ] 852 00:46:15,205 --> 00:46:21,744 Sullivan: Gacy was convicted of having two boys in his house. 853 00:46:21,845 --> 00:46:27,250 Handcuffed them to one of the big legs of the pool table, 854 00:46:27,351 --> 00:46:29,719 and that's where he sodomized them. 855 00:46:29,820 --> 00:46:31,854 Narrator: Gacy received a 10-year sentence, 856 00:46:31,955 --> 00:46:34,457 but served only 18 months. 857 00:46:34,558 --> 00:46:37,160 There was no sex registry in 1970, 858 00:46:37,261 --> 00:46:40,463 so the conviction didn't follow him to Chicago. 859 00:46:40,564 --> 00:46:42,265 Kozenczak: And when we heard that, 860 00:46:42,366 --> 00:46:44,867 the hair literally stood up on the back of our necks. 861 00:46:44,968 --> 00:46:48,971 This must be something a little more serious 862 00:46:49,072 --> 00:46:51,407 than what we're thinking about here. 863 00:46:54,011 --> 00:46:58,581 And that's what prompted us to go to Gacy's house 864 00:46:58,682 --> 00:47:02,218 and confront him one-on-one. 865 00:47:02,319 --> 00:47:05,421 So he opened the door. He was not very clean. 866 00:47:05,522 --> 00:47:07,890 He wasn't a clean person. He was unshaven. 867 00:47:07,991 --> 00:47:10,092 His clothes were dirty. 868 00:47:20,037 --> 00:47:23,973 He started to tell me that his mother had just called him. 869 00:47:24,074 --> 00:47:25,374 His uncle had died, 870 00:47:25,475 --> 00:47:28,010 and he was helping his mother with funeral arrangements. 871 00:47:33,517 --> 00:47:36,385 Once he found out we did not have a search warrant, 872 00:47:36,486 --> 00:47:38,988 he got real belligerent. 873 00:47:39,089 --> 00:47:41,958 So when we walked outside, we all agreed that this guy 874 00:47:42,059 --> 00:47:44,594 knew more than what he was telling us. 875 00:47:47,464 --> 00:47:48,798 Narrator: Gacy's behavior, 876 00:47:48,899 --> 00:47:51,133 coupled with his sodomy conviction in Iowa, 877 00:47:51,235 --> 00:47:53,035 strikes an ominous note, 878 00:47:53,136 --> 00:47:54,837 and it's enough to convince a judge 879 00:47:54,938 --> 00:47:58,307 to agree to a search warrant for Gacy's house. 880 00:47:58,375 --> 00:48:01,811 Sullivan: I wanted to see if the police officers could find 881 00:48:01,912 --> 00:48:05,882 anything that would show that there was a body there, 882 00:48:05,983 --> 00:48:08,985 to show that there was a live body, hopefully, 883 00:48:09,086 --> 00:48:12,255 and someone who was being held against his will. 884 00:48:12,356 --> 00:48:15,958 Tovar: From the time we went in, we could tell that 885 00:48:16,059 --> 00:48:17,994 he was marching to a different drummer 886 00:48:18,095 --> 00:48:21,097 because the paint job, for example. 887 00:48:21,198 --> 00:48:23,866 The hall was painted brown and then had, like, 888 00:48:23,967 --> 00:48:27,703 zigzag gold lines going up and down through it. 889 00:48:27,804 --> 00:48:31,741 I mean, it was really weird. 890 00:48:31,842 --> 00:48:34,911 Clown pictures were everywhere. He had one right over his bed. 891 00:48:35,012 --> 00:48:41,584 ♪♪ 892 00:48:41,685 --> 00:48:44,487 And then he had junk stacked everywhere. 893 00:48:44,588 --> 00:48:49,158 Narrator: They searched the house top to bottom. 894 00:48:49,259 --> 00:48:53,696 Tovar: We found sex books, sex toys. 895 00:48:53,797 --> 00:48:55,197 We found a board. 896 00:48:55,299 --> 00:48:57,500 It's a 2x4 with holes at the end of it, 897 00:48:57,601 --> 00:48:59,468 which could be used like old-fashioned stocks 898 00:48:59,569 --> 00:49:01,437 where they used to butcher. 899 00:49:01,538 --> 00:49:04,006 So it was some strange stuff. 900 00:49:04,107 --> 00:49:06,342 Narrator: In a closet off the front room, 901 00:49:06,443 --> 00:49:09,779 they found a trap door leading to a crawl space. 902 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,948 The place was a dirty, stinky place. 903 00:49:12,082 --> 00:49:15,351 The water tank was very high in that neighborhood there, 904 00:49:15,452 --> 00:49:21,290 so the sump pump was constantly going and the earth was muddy. 905 00:49:21,391 --> 00:49:23,392 So we were looking for a mound of dirt, maybe, 906 00:49:23,493 --> 00:49:26,162 if he had buried someone down there. 907 00:49:26,263 --> 00:49:28,965 Narrator: But they find nothing. 908 00:49:29,066 --> 00:49:32,435 However, other items scattered around the house raise questions 909 00:49:32,536 --> 00:49:34,937 about the suburban contractor... 910 00:49:35,038 --> 00:49:38,240 A photo receipt from Nisson pharmacy, 911 00:49:38,342 --> 00:49:39,742 handcuffs, 912 00:49:39,843 --> 00:49:41,677 various sets of car keys, 913 00:49:41,778 --> 00:49:45,147 and a lot of police badges. 914 00:49:45,248 --> 00:49:49,018 Kozenczak: And we found various jewelry and ID cards 915 00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:52,521 and driver's licenses that didn't belong to Gacy. 916 00:49:52,622 --> 00:49:55,291 Narrator: The Rob Piest case was taking a bigger 917 00:49:55,392 --> 00:49:57,626 and disturbing turn. 918 00:49:57,728 --> 00:50:01,931 That was the start of realizing that we were on to something, 919 00:50:02,032 --> 00:50:04,600 a heck of a lot more than the disappearance of one kid. 920 00:50:06,503 --> 00:50:07,770 ♪♪ 921 00:50:07,871 --> 00:50:09,438 [ Crow caws ] 922 00:50:09,539 --> 00:50:12,908 Narrator: Jewelry, high-school rings, ID bracelets, 923 00:50:13,010 --> 00:50:16,045 driver's licenses, and dozens of police badges, 924 00:50:16,146 --> 00:50:18,614 all found in contractor John Gacy's home, 925 00:50:18,715 --> 00:50:20,883 none of it belonging to him, 926 00:50:20,984 --> 00:50:24,587 and no sign of the missing teen Rob Piest. 927 00:50:24,688 --> 00:50:28,090 Sullivan: We truly had hoped that he was alive 928 00:50:28,191 --> 00:50:32,762 and that we might find him bound up in Gacy's house. 929 00:50:32,863 --> 00:50:35,097 Narrator: Detectives widen their search. 930 00:50:35,198 --> 00:50:36,432 They start by going back 931 00:50:36,533 --> 00:50:38,401 and talking to everyone in the pharmacy 932 00:50:38,535 --> 00:50:40,669 the night Rob disappeared. 933 00:50:40,771 --> 00:50:44,473 We knew from talking to people that he had gone out 934 00:50:44,574 --> 00:50:48,744 with John Wayne Gacy to get an application for a job. 935 00:50:48,845 --> 00:50:51,547 John Wayne Gacy had been in the modeling company 936 00:50:51,648 --> 00:50:56,452 called P.D.M. Painting, decorating, and maintenance. 937 00:50:56,553 --> 00:51:00,222 Albrecht: He was offering him a summer job for $7.50 an hour. 938 00:51:00,323 --> 00:51:01,957 So a 15-year-old kid, 939 00:51:02,059 --> 00:51:06,495 and he was all anxious about turning 16 and buying a car. 940 00:51:06,596 --> 00:51:08,097 Tovar: This young girl Kim, 941 00:51:08,198 --> 00:51:10,566 she was working the counter up near the front door. 942 00:51:10,667 --> 00:51:13,436 She was cold, and she borrowed Robert's jacket. 943 00:51:13,537 --> 00:51:15,905 It was a nice, blue, down jacket. 944 00:51:16,006 --> 00:51:19,308 Sullivan: When he was going out to see Gacy, 945 00:51:19,409 --> 00:51:22,812 he said, "Kim, let me get my jacket back." 946 00:51:22,913 --> 00:51:24,780 Tovar: He told her, "I'm going with this guy 947 00:51:24,881 --> 00:51:26,649 to fill out an application." 948 00:51:28,652 --> 00:51:31,454 A lot of these people actually didn't notice 949 00:51:31,555 --> 00:51:33,589 anything suspicious. 950 00:51:33,690 --> 00:51:35,458 Sullivan: There was absolutely no reason 951 00:51:35,559 --> 00:51:37,893 to think that he wouldn't have come home. 952 00:51:37,994 --> 00:51:39,895 [ Siren wailing ] 953 00:51:39,996 --> 00:51:41,997 ♪♪ 954 00:51:42,099 --> 00:51:44,900 Narrator: Despite Gacy's sodomy conviction in Iowa, 955 00:51:45,001 --> 00:51:47,503 the 36-year-old suburban contractor 956 00:51:47,604 --> 00:51:51,073 appears to be a likable, hardworking businessman. 957 00:51:51,174 --> 00:51:55,811 The neighbors loved him. His associates loved him. 958 00:51:58,415 --> 00:52:00,549 Albrecht: Gacy would have parties 959 00:52:00,650 --> 00:52:04,153 around July 4th every year, and people that attended them 960 00:52:04,254 --> 00:52:06,755 was the who's who of Chicago politics. 961 00:52:06,857 --> 00:52:08,657 Narrator: He was a parade organizer 962 00:52:08,725 --> 00:52:10,259 for the mayor of Chicago 963 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,595 and a Democratic precinct captain. 964 00:52:12,662 --> 00:52:15,231 He seemed a model citizen. 965 00:52:25,475 --> 00:52:27,309 He was very active in business 966 00:52:27,410 --> 00:52:29,845 and very active with politics. 967 00:52:29,946 --> 00:52:31,514 Sullivan: At one particular time, 968 00:52:31,615 --> 00:52:32,882 there's a Polish day parade. 969 00:52:32,983 --> 00:52:36,418 The first lady of the United States, Rosalynn Carter, 970 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,154 was in for the parade, 971 00:52:38,255 --> 00:52:41,690 and he actually got up on the stage with her 972 00:52:41,791 --> 00:52:44,260 and even had his picture taken with her. 973 00:52:44,361 --> 00:52:47,163 ♪♪ 974 00:52:47,264 --> 00:52:50,933 He was a certified clown 975 00:52:51,034 --> 00:52:52,935 that would volunteer his time 976 00:52:53,036 --> 00:52:56,238 to go to hospitals and entertain children. 977 00:52:56,339 --> 00:52:58,841 Narrator: He calls himself pogo the clown, 978 00:52:58,942 --> 00:53:01,177 and he took it seriously. 979 00:53:19,162 --> 00:53:22,865 However, a dig into Gacy's past paints a different picture 980 00:53:22,966 --> 00:53:26,135 than the model citizen in Chicago. 981 00:53:26,236 --> 00:53:29,004 Tovar: Well, we interviewed people in Springfield, Iowa, 982 00:53:29,105 --> 00:53:31,674 also, where he had lived. 983 00:53:31,775 --> 00:53:33,809 He did not graduate from high school. 984 00:53:33,910 --> 00:53:37,446 He went out to Las Vegas to work, 985 00:53:37,547 --> 00:53:39,692 and while he was there, he worked for an ambulance company. 986 00:53:39,716 --> 00:53:42,851 His job was picking up deceased remains 987 00:53:42,953 --> 00:53:44,687 and delivering them to either 988 00:53:44,788 --> 00:53:47,323 funeral homes of choice or whatever. 989 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,894 Well, they started finding some disturbing things 990 00:53:51,995 --> 00:53:56,665 as that he was messing with the bodies. 991 00:53:56,766 --> 00:53:59,935 He was necrophiliac, and he was having sex with the bodies 992 00:54:00,036 --> 00:54:03,105 at night in the funeral home. 993 00:54:03,206 --> 00:54:05,808 They discovered that because they found the clothing 994 00:54:05,909 --> 00:54:08,744 on the bodies messed up and they approached him about it, 995 00:54:08,845 --> 00:54:12,381 and I guess he confessed to it, so they fired him. 996 00:54:12,482 --> 00:54:15,551 Narrator: Gacy was married twice and divorced twice. 997 00:54:15,685 --> 00:54:18,654 He has two kids from the first marriage in Iowa 998 00:54:18,755 --> 00:54:20,389 and lives alone. 999 00:54:23,827 --> 00:54:25,828 Back at the Des Plaines police station, 1000 00:54:25,929 --> 00:54:29,765 detectives sift through the items taken from Gacy's house. 1001 00:54:29,866 --> 00:54:33,335 A high-school ring with three initials, j.A.S., 1002 00:54:33,436 --> 00:54:35,604 gets their attention. 1003 00:54:35,705 --> 00:54:39,174 We were working on the Rob Piest disappearance. 1004 00:54:39,276 --> 00:54:42,411 And then all of a sudden, as you can imagine, 1005 00:54:42,512 --> 00:54:44,780 finding something like a class ring 1006 00:54:44,881 --> 00:54:47,082 that had initials on it. 1007 00:54:47,183 --> 00:54:49,318 Tovar: We learned that ultimately turned out 1008 00:54:49,419 --> 00:54:51,320 to belong to John Szyc. 1009 00:54:51,421 --> 00:54:54,590 Narrator: 19-year-old John Szyc was from Des Plaines 1010 00:54:54,691 --> 00:54:55,858 but was living in Chicago 1011 00:54:55,959 --> 00:55:00,296 when he went missing a year earlier in January 1977. 1012 00:55:00,397 --> 00:55:02,898 Tovar: We spoke to his mother, and she told us 1013 00:55:02,966 --> 00:55:04,366 he had been missing 1014 00:55:04,467 --> 00:55:08,103 and that his car was missing as well as a television. 1015 00:55:08,204 --> 00:55:11,006 We had seen a television that kind of, maybe matched 1016 00:55:11,107 --> 00:55:12,775 in the house. 1017 00:55:12,876 --> 00:55:14,843 We started digging for information 1018 00:55:14,944 --> 00:55:17,413 on other missing kids. 1019 00:55:17,514 --> 00:55:21,317 We found a list of employees, and we started checking on them, 1020 00:55:21,418 --> 00:55:25,487 started finding out that a lot of those were also missing. 1021 00:55:25,588 --> 00:55:28,457 Sullivan: How many other kids had he offered the same deal 1022 00:55:28,558 --> 00:55:30,526 as he was doing with Piest? 1023 00:55:30,627 --> 00:55:33,429 In other words, "come with me 1024 00:55:33,530 --> 00:55:36,632 and I'll double whatever you're making right now." 1025 00:55:36,733 --> 00:55:39,401 Narrator: Gacy's name comes up more than half a dozen times 1026 00:55:39,502 --> 00:55:41,403 in Chicago police reports, 1027 00:55:41,504 --> 00:55:44,673 ranging from kidnapping to rape and assault. 1028 00:55:44,774 --> 00:55:46,909 Chicago police did investigate, 1029 00:55:47,010 --> 00:55:50,212 but nothing came of any one of them. 1030 00:55:50,313 --> 00:55:52,448 Hachmeister: It was at that point, really, 1031 00:55:52,549 --> 00:55:54,283 turned everything upside down. 1032 00:55:54,384 --> 00:55:57,252 He was no longer, in my opinion, a person of interest. 1033 00:55:57,354 --> 00:55:59,188 He was definitely a suspect. 1034 00:56:02,258 --> 00:56:04,860 Rob Piest has been missing for four days, 1035 00:56:04,961 --> 00:56:06,962 and all eyes are on Gacy, 1036 00:56:07,063 --> 00:56:09,732 but the police need more evidence. 1037 00:56:09,833 --> 00:56:12,368 They put him on round-the-clock surveillance. 1038 00:56:12,469 --> 00:56:14,870 I was hoping that if, in fact, 1039 00:56:14,971 --> 00:56:17,072 he had done something with Rob Piest, 1040 00:56:17,173 --> 00:56:20,676 that he would lead us there. 1041 00:56:20,777 --> 00:56:23,746 This is the four of us that were on the surveillance. 1042 00:56:23,847 --> 00:56:26,048 Bob and Ron had the noon to midnight, 1043 00:56:26,149 --> 00:56:29,518 and Dave I had the midnight to noon. 1044 00:56:29,619 --> 00:56:32,421 Hachmeister: Our goal as a surveillance unit was to, 1045 00:56:32,522 --> 00:56:35,758 no matter what, keep him in view 1046 00:56:35,859 --> 00:56:40,095 so that if there's any evidence to be out there through Gacy, 1047 00:56:40,196 --> 00:56:43,932 he would not be able to destroy any of the evidence. 1048 00:56:44,033 --> 00:56:46,135 Surveillance work can be boring at certain times, 1049 00:56:46,236 --> 00:56:47,913 although I kind of had the personality for it. 1050 00:56:47,937 --> 00:56:49,648 I could sit and, you know, I had a lot of Patience 1051 00:56:49,672 --> 00:56:52,775 for something like that for one reason or another. 1052 00:56:52,876 --> 00:56:57,379 That first night, I sat by myself for quite a while. 1053 00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,048 This was an extremely cold day. We're in December. 1054 00:57:00,150 --> 00:57:04,219 It was so cold that I had to keep my car running. 1055 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,322 When he came home, he could see the exhaust from my car 1056 00:57:07,424 --> 00:57:10,125 billowing up from the car, 1057 00:57:10,226 --> 00:57:13,429 so as he drove by, he knew that we had interest in him. 1058 00:57:13,530 --> 00:57:16,098 He spotted the car, and the first thing he did 1059 00:57:16,199 --> 00:57:18,233 was wave to me as he drove by. 1060 00:57:18,334 --> 00:57:20,436 So he knew right away that we were following him, 1061 00:57:20,537 --> 00:57:22,604 and we just had to make the best of it. 1062 00:57:25,208 --> 00:57:27,376 You'd think this guy is like a bad guy, 1063 00:57:27,477 --> 00:57:30,379 he's really gonna be a tough guy to deal with, 1064 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:31,747 but he was just the opposite. 1065 00:57:31,848 --> 00:57:35,551 I mean, he welcomed us when we followed him into bars. 1066 00:57:35,652 --> 00:57:38,120 He would buy us beers. 1067 00:57:38,221 --> 00:57:39,988 Afterwards, we would go to restaurants, 1068 00:57:40,089 --> 00:57:41,690 he would invite us to his table. 1069 00:57:41,791 --> 00:57:44,293 We'd have breakfast with him. 1070 00:57:44,394 --> 00:57:46,094 He seemed like a great guy. 1071 00:57:46,196 --> 00:57:48,397 He seemed to be very concerned about Rob Piest, 1072 00:57:48,498 --> 00:57:51,500 saying he would do anything to help us out. 1073 00:57:51,601 --> 00:57:56,872 Lie-detector tests, do anything. He was very, very concerned. 1074 00:57:56,973 --> 00:57:58,707 And, matter of fact, my partner and I 1075 00:57:58,808 --> 00:58:01,977 would have to occasionally remind each other, 1076 00:58:02,078 --> 00:58:04,847 "hey, we've got to be really on our toes here." 1077 00:58:16,593 --> 00:58:21,630 ♪♪ 1078 00:58:21,731 --> 00:58:23,632 There was one time that we were following Gacy, 1079 00:58:23,733 --> 00:58:25,934 about 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning, 1080 00:58:26,035 --> 00:58:29,404 he was checking on a job site. 1081 00:58:29,506 --> 00:58:33,408 On his way home, he was going through gay neighborhood, 1082 00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:37,513 and he happened to spot some guy walking down the street. 1083 00:58:37,614 --> 00:58:41,183 He just about turned his head totally around 1084 00:58:41,284 --> 00:58:42,885 looking at this young man. 1085 00:58:42,986 --> 00:58:45,954 You could tell that he was really wanting to do something, 1086 00:58:46,055 --> 00:58:51,026 but he couldn't do anything because we were so close to him. 1087 00:58:51,127 --> 00:58:53,028 He never talked to us about being gay. 1088 00:58:53,129 --> 00:58:55,430 I mean, he would always actually kind of go overboard 1089 00:58:55,532 --> 00:58:57,332 about saying, "wow, did you see that woman? 1090 00:58:57,433 --> 00:58:58,677 What a good-looking woman," you know, 1091 00:58:58,701 --> 00:59:00,621 and he would kind of go out of his way to mention 1092 00:59:00,670 --> 00:59:05,574 to us to make us think that he was straight as an arrow. 1093 00:59:05,675 --> 00:59:07,209 Narrator: His bluster extends 1094 00:59:07,310 --> 00:59:11,246 to the perks of working as pogo the clown. 1095 00:59:11,347 --> 00:59:14,650 Albrecht: Gacy, the cocky bragger that he was, 1096 00:59:14,751 --> 00:59:16,391 he looked at us and said, "you know what?" 1097 00:59:16,452 --> 00:59:18,053 You could sit on a woman's lap, you know, 1098 00:59:18,154 --> 00:59:20,956 and you could sit there and talk to them and feel them up 1099 00:59:21,057 --> 00:59:22,324 or whatever you want to do, 1100 00:59:22,425 --> 00:59:23,892 "and clowns do get away with that." 1101 00:59:23,993 --> 00:59:25,404 And he said, you know... He looked at us 1102 00:59:25,428 --> 00:59:27,296 and he said, "you know, clowns... 1103 00:59:27,397 --> 00:59:29,398 Clowns can get away with murder." 1104 00:59:35,805 --> 00:59:37,706 ♪♪ 1105 00:59:37,807 --> 00:59:40,842 Narrator: It's been five days since Rob Piest disappeared 1106 00:59:40,944 --> 00:59:44,179 and Des Plaines detectives lean on Gacy's employees, 1107 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,749 hoping they'll provide some clue about the teen's whereabouts. 1108 00:59:47,850 --> 00:59:50,085 Hachmeister: He had two really loyal followers 1109 00:59:50,186 --> 00:59:53,488 who worked for him, Michael Rossi and David cram. 1110 00:59:53,590 --> 00:59:57,526 Narrator: The young men had been working for Gacy for two years. 1111 00:59:57,627 --> 01:00:00,495 Sullivan: One was more cooperative than the other. 1112 01:00:00,597 --> 01:00:03,932 I wouldn't say that either of them were real cooperative. 1113 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:08,503 Kozenczak: I think he saw Gacy was in trouble, 1114 01:00:08,605 --> 01:00:14,376 and he didn't want to be brought into it any more than he had to. 1115 01:00:14,477 --> 01:00:18,513 And he started giving us information about employees 1116 01:00:18,615 --> 01:00:20,616 who come to work one day 1117 01:00:20,717 --> 01:00:22,918 and then the next day they were just gone. 1118 01:00:24,954 --> 01:00:27,089 Narrator: Rossi mentions one kid in particular 1119 01:00:27,190 --> 01:00:29,257 who worked for Gacy two years earlier, 1120 01:00:29,359 --> 01:00:31,560 who never showed up for work one day 1121 01:00:31,661 --> 01:00:34,663 and never picked up his last paycheck. 1122 01:00:34,764 --> 01:00:36,465 Gregory Godzik was 17 1123 01:00:36,566 --> 01:00:42,437 when he took a part-time job at P.D.M. Construction in 1976. 1124 01:00:42,538 --> 01:00:46,141 I remember the day when he came home and he said to my mom, 1125 01:00:46,242 --> 01:00:49,745 "you know, I met this man, and he's offering me a new job." 1126 01:00:49,846 --> 01:00:52,581 And my mother said, "oh, my god, what kind of job?" 1127 01:00:52,682 --> 01:00:55,517 Finish school so you can go to college. 1128 01:00:55,618 --> 01:01:00,956 And at the time, he was making $2.25 an hour, and he said, 1129 01:01:01,057 --> 01:01:05,193 "mom, this man's offering me $5 an hour." 1130 01:01:05,294 --> 01:01:08,530 And my mother said, "I don't want you to do that." 1131 01:01:08,631 --> 01:01:11,233 Of course, every 17-year-old, 1132 01:01:11,334 --> 01:01:13,178 you know, they're gonna do what they're gonna do. 1133 01:01:13,202 --> 01:01:16,471 And I remember a couple days later he said, 1134 01:01:16,572 --> 01:01:20,442 "mom, I got this job from that man I was telling you about." 1135 01:01:20,543 --> 01:01:24,780 Narrator: Three weeks later, Gregory disappeared. 1136 01:01:24,881 --> 01:01:27,282 [ Dog barking ] 1137 01:01:27,383 --> 01:01:29,918 Godzik: He was going out on a date with a new girlfriend 1138 01:01:30,019 --> 01:01:31,119 or somebody. 1139 01:01:31,220 --> 01:01:33,488 The next morning, my mother said, 1140 01:01:33,623 --> 01:01:36,925 "did you see your brother?" And I said, "no, why?" 1141 01:01:37,026 --> 01:01:39,461 Because every time my brother would come home, 1142 01:01:39,562 --> 01:01:42,431 he'd always, "mom, I'm home," or give her a kiss. 1143 01:01:42,532 --> 01:01:44,199 And she said, "he didn't come in." 1144 01:01:44,300 --> 01:01:47,102 And I said, "that's odd." 1145 01:01:47,203 --> 01:01:49,838 And then it was like two days after that, 1146 01:01:49,939 --> 01:01:55,310 they found my brother's car in a parking lot, and in the car, 1147 01:01:55,411 --> 01:01:59,081 there was his driver's license and his wallet and... 1148 01:01:59,182 --> 01:02:01,349 And even my mother said, you know, 1149 01:02:01,451 --> 01:02:06,288 "why would he leave his car? It was a prized possession." 1150 01:02:06,389 --> 01:02:10,258 My mother went to Gacy's house that week. 1151 01:02:10,359 --> 01:02:12,828 She said, "well, he should know 1152 01:02:12,929 --> 01:02:15,497 if he was supposed to be working." 1153 01:02:15,598 --> 01:02:19,601 And he said, "oh, yeah, I saw him a while ago, 1154 01:02:19,702 --> 01:02:22,838 but, oh, yeah, he left a message on my machine." 1155 01:02:22,939 --> 01:02:24,883 My mother said, "oh, well, let's hear the machine." 1156 01:02:24,907 --> 01:02:27,943 He goes, "oh, I erased that." 1157 01:02:28,044 --> 01:02:29,911 And he said, "oh, 17-year-olds", 1158 01:02:30,012 --> 01:02:32,647 "they run away, but they'll be back," you know. 1159 01:02:32,749 --> 01:02:35,050 My mother said, "nope, that's not my son. 1160 01:02:35,151 --> 01:02:37,552 My son would never do anything like that." 1161 01:02:37,653 --> 01:02:40,021 But you have your hands tied. 1162 01:02:40,123 --> 01:02:41,900 What are you gonna do? You only can do so much. 1163 01:02:41,924 --> 01:02:44,726 You hire a private investigator, you go to the police. 1164 01:02:44,827 --> 01:02:47,229 They don't... you know, "we have other things." 1165 01:02:47,330 --> 01:02:49,097 You know, "we're doing the best we can." 1166 01:02:49,198 --> 01:02:53,101 And you just live with it. 1167 01:02:53,202 --> 01:02:57,038 Narrator: Three teens... Rob Piest, Gregory Godzik, 1168 01:02:57,140 --> 01:02:59,808 and the owner of the ring found in Gacy's house, 1169 01:02:59,909 --> 01:03:02,010 17-year-old John Szyc... 1170 01:03:02,111 --> 01:03:05,680 All missing, all tied to John Gacy. 1171 01:03:08,851 --> 01:03:12,988 Then an item, a slip of paper found in Gacy's trash, 1172 01:03:13,089 --> 01:03:17,492 becomes a turning point in the search for Rob Piest. 1173 01:03:17,593 --> 01:03:20,695 Hachmeister: We recovered a photo receipt 1174 01:03:20,797 --> 01:03:24,566 from Nisson pharmacy, and it only had numbers on it, 1175 01:03:24,667 --> 01:03:26,334 so you didn't know who it was issued to. 1176 01:03:26,435 --> 01:03:29,504 This receipt, and the film finally came back, 1177 01:03:29,605 --> 01:03:32,774 and the numbers corresponded to Kim Byers, 1178 01:03:32,875 --> 01:03:38,914 who was an employee with Rob Piest at Nisson pharmacy. 1179 01:03:39,015 --> 01:03:43,185 Sullivan: She put that receipt in Rob's pocket, 1180 01:03:43,286 --> 01:03:46,321 and then Rob came and got the check. 1181 01:03:46,422 --> 01:03:48,066 Narrator: That's when Rob left the pharmacy 1182 01:03:48,090 --> 01:03:50,659 to talk to Gacy about a job. 1183 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:54,563 Proof Rob's jacket was in Gacy's house. 1184 01:03:54,664 --> 01:03:56,698 So where is the teen? 1185 01:03:59,669 --> 01:04:03,972 Investigators keep the pressure on Gacy's two closest employees. 1186 01:04:04,073 --> 01:04:06,174 Both Mike Rossi and David cram 1187 01:04:06,275 --> 01:04:09,077 had lived in Gacy's house for a time. 1188 01:04:09,178 --> 01:04:11,346 Hachmeister: The investigators, they were nonstop. 1189 01:04:11,447 --> 01:04:13,815 They'd follow these individuals everywhere, 1190 01:04:13,916 --> 01:04:16,318 interview them at work, at home. 1191 01:04:18,354 --> 01:04:21,823 And they were starting to get tired of seeing the police. 1192 01:04:21,924 --> 01:04:24,726 Narrator: One of the employees agrees to come to the station 1193 01:04:24,827 --> 01:04:26,828 and answer more questions. 1194 01:04:26,929 --> 01:04:29,931 Gacy had had these kids 1195 01:04:30,032 --> 01:04:34,402 digging in his crawl space in the basement. 1196 01:04:34,503 --> 01:04:39,207 They were digging where Gacy would be able to put some lime, 1197 01:04:39,308 --> 01:04:42,344 which would absorb odors. 1198 01:04:42,445 --> 01:04:44,112 This was kind of odd to us, you know. 1199 01:04:44,213 --> 01:04:45,881 Why would you do something like that? 1200 01:04:45,982 --> 01:04:47,115 But they explained it away, 1201 01:04:47,216 --> 01:04:49,651 that Gacy said that there was a sewage issue 1202 01:04:49,752 --> 01:04:53,655 and that it was drainage for that sewage issue. 1203 01:04:53,756 --> 01:04:55,390 Kozenczak: And then I finally said, 1204 01:04:55,491 --> 01:04:57,759 "could you just tell me, please, 1205 01:04:57,860 --> 01:05:02,063 if I was gonna look for Robert, where should I look for him?" 1206 01:05:02,164 --> 01:05:04,666 And he put his head down and he said, 1207 01:05:04,767 --> 01:05:06,668 "in John's crawl space." 1208 01:05:09,105 --> 01:05:13,541 So we knew at that point that we had to get another warrant 1209 01:05:13,643 --> 01:05:16,244 and go back into Gacy's house, 1210 01:05:16,345 --> 01:05:20,916 into his crawl space and start looking again 1211 01:05:21,017 --> 01:05:25,587 because apparently, we missed something the first time around. 1212 01:05:25,688 --> 01:05:27,768 Narrator: The surveillance team has been tailing Gacy 1213 01:05:27,857 --> 01:05:30,058 for more than a week. 1214 01:05:30,159 --> 01:05:33,028 Hachmeister: At this point, he hadn't shaved for a couple days. 1215 01:05:33,129 --> 01:05:36,765 He's slouching. His whole demeanor is different. 1216 01:05:36,866 --> 01:05:39,067 He was doing some uppers and downers. 1217 01:05:39,168 --> 01:05:41,836 It had to be killing him on the inside, 1218 01:05:41,938 --> 01:05:45,941 knowing that we were not gonna let up on this investigation. 1219 01:05:46,042 --> 01:05:48,910 At this point, we were like dogs with a bone. 1220 01:05:49,011 --> 01:05:51,112 Narrator: On the morning of December 21st, 1221 01:05:51,213 --> 01:05:53,648 they follow Gacy to his local gas station, 1222 01:05:53,749 --> 01:05:56,918 where they witness him handing over drugs to the attendant. 1223 01:05:57,019 --> 01:05:58,664 Hachmeister: When he left the gas station... 1224 01:05:58,688 --> 01:06:01,523 [ Tires squeal ] ...He took off like a wild man. 1225 01:06:01,624 --> 01:06:03,158 So when we pulled him out of the car, 1226 01:06:03,259 --> 01:06:06,928 I kind of pushed him around a little bit and said, 1227 01:06:07,029 --> 01:06:08,463 "John, you're under arrest 1228 01:06:08,564 --> 01:06:12,200 for possession of and delivery of marijuana." 1229 01:06:12,301 --> 01:06:13,412 He didn't really say anything. 1230 01:06:13,436 --> 01:06:16,571 He just seemed to be staring into space. 1231 01:06:31,620 --> 01:06:36,458 Narrator: That same day, the second search warrant arrives. 1232 01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:38,460 Sullivan: We had to get down to the crawl space 1233 01:06:38,561 --> 01:06:41,730 because that's where the two kids 1234 01:06:41,831 --> 01:06:44,332 who worked for him said they were digging trenches. 1235 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,568 [ Camera shutter clicking ] 1236 01:06:46,669 --> 01:06:48,403 Tovar: I think it was Phil Bettiker 1237 01:06:48,504 --> 01:06:51,039 who started digging. 1238 01:06:51,140 --> 01:06:54,876 And he found a left femur. 1239 01:06:54,977 --> 01:06:59,014 So he kept digging, found a second left femur. 1240 01:06:59,115 --> 01:07:02,250 Kept digging, found a third one. 1241 01:07:02,351 --> 01:07:04,753 Sullivan: That's when I said, "stop there." 1242 01:07:04,854 --> 01:07:06,821 And we called in the medical examiner, 1243 01:07:06,922 --> 01:07:10,291 and he identified that as a human bone. 1244 01:07:12,194 --> 01:07:15,563 ♪♪ 1245 01:07:15,664 --> 01:07:17,866 Narrator: Four days before Christmas, 1246 01:07:17,967 --> 01:07:22,537 and John Wayne Gacy sits in the Des Plaines police station. 1247 01:07:22,638 --> 01:07:26,508 Seven miles away, police uncover bones in his basement, 1248 01:07:26,609 --> 01:07:29,144 bones belonging to more than one body. 1249 01:07:29,245 --> 01:07:30,812 [ Truck beeping ] 1250 01:07:30,913 --> 01:07:34,749 These bodies were decayed for the most part. 1251 01:07:34,850 --> 01:07:38,353 Robert Piest had only been missing for 10 days. 1252 01:07:38,454 --> 01:07:41,356 So we knew for a fact that this was not Robert Piest. 1253 01:07:41,457 --> 01:07:43,091 It was somebody else. 1254 01:07:43,192 --> 01:07:44,492 Hachmeister: I get a phone call. 1255 01:07:44,593 --> 01:07:47,128 They said, "we have dead bodies in a crawl space." 1256 01:07:47,229 --> 01:07:48,630 I turned to Gacy, and I said, 1257 01:07:48,731 --> 01:07:50,732 "John, you're under arrest for murder." 1258 01:07:50,833 --> 01:07:55,070 I was elated. I had to try to be calm and cool. 1259 01:07:55,171 --> 01:07:58,139 But it was like the most unbelievable thing 1260 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,842 that ever happened to me... Undescribable. 1261 01:08:00,943 --> 01:08:03,078 Tovar: He knew at this point 1262 01:08:03,179 --> 01:08:04,712 that we were gonna find all the bodies. 1263 01:08:04,814 --> 01:08:07,348 And we told him we'd already started digging. 1264 01:08:07,450 --> 01:08:09,217 Albrecht: Gacy looks at me, and he says, 1265 01:08:09,318 --> 01:08:11,519 "were you guys in a crawl space?" 1266 01:08:11,620 --> 01:08:13,154 I says, "yeah, John. Why?" 1267 01:08:13,255 --> 01:08:15,390 He says, "well, that's what the lime was for." 1268 01:08:15,491 --> 01:08:17,636 I said, "well, what do you mean? What do you mean the lime was?" 1269 01:08:17,660 --> 01:08:19,060 "To cover the smell." 1270 01:08:19,161 --> 01:08:20,795 And he said something really ridiculous. 1271 01:08:20,896 --> 01:08:24,532 He said, "well, I don't want you guys messing my carpets up, 1272 01:08:24,633 --> 01:08:29,204 so I'll draw you a map of where everything is." 1273 01:08:29,271 --> 01:08:32,640 This drawing is a photocopy of 1274 01:08:32,741 --> 01:08:36,478 Gacy's crawl space, that he made this drawing, 1275 01:08:36,579 --> 01:08:37,722 and you can see in one spot here, 1276 01:08:37,746 --> 01:08:42,150 there's a rectangle with an "x" on it. 1277 01:08:42,251 --> 01:08:46,888 That's where the first body was buried. 1278 01:08:46,989 --> 01:08:48,309 Narrator: Over the next few hours, 1279 01:08:48,357 --> 01:08:51,559 Gacy confesses to killing dozens of boys and young men 1280 01:08:51,660 --> 01:08:54,329 and burying their bodies under his house. 1281 01:08:54,430 --> 01:08:55,663 In chilling detail, 1282 01:08:55,764 --> 01:08:59,334 he tells them the murders started in 1972. 1283 01:08:59,435 --> 01:09:02,103 The first one was self-defense. 1284 01:09:02,204 --> 01:09:04,606 This kid tried to come after him with a knife in the morning 1285 01:09:04,707 --> 01:09:07,242 after they had spent the night together having sex. 1286 01:09:07,343 --> 01:09:09,611 He knifed him. 1287 01:09:09,712 --> 01:09:13,414 Narrator: What Gacy describes goes beyond self-defense. 1288 01:09:53,155 --> 01:09:55,690 Albrecht: At that time, he was married, still. 1289 01:09:55,791 --> 01:09:57,559 His wife was still there. 1290 01:09:57,660 --> 01:10:00,628 He mentioned... it was either mother's day or Easter 1291 01:10:00,729 --> 01:10:03,531 that he told his wife, "this is the last day 1292 01:10:03,632 --> 01:10:06,801 that we're ever gonna have any type of sexual contact." 1293 01:10:11,073 --> 01:10:14,542 Narrator: It was the start of a three-year killing spree, 1294 01:10:14,643 --> 01:10:16,778 picking up most of his victims at night, 1295 01:10:16,879 --> 01:10:21,216 cruising around Chicago's gay area, Bughouse square. 1296 01:10:31,994 --> 01:10:35,296 He had this car that he outfitted 1297 01:10:35,397 --> 01:10:38,366 to make it look like it was a police car. 1298 01:10:38,467 --> 01:10:42,370 And he was able to stop kids and tell them to get in the car. 1299 01:10:42,471 --> 01:10:46,975 Narrator: This ruse was part of his well-honed routine. 1300 01:11:03,359 --> 01:11:05,927 ♪♪ 1301 01:11:06,028 --> 01:11:10,531 Once he had them in the car, he drove to his house. 1302 01:11:10,633 --> 01:11:13,368 There, he plied the kids with alcohol and drugs 1303 01:11:13,469 --> 01:11:16,371 and entertained them with his handcuff trick, 1304 01:11:16,472 --> 01:11:20,108 the same trick used by Dean Allen Corll, the Candyman, 1305 01:11:20,209 --> 01:11:24,545 on his 29 victims in Houston just a few years earlier. 1306 01:11:49,905 --> 01:11:52,907 Unwittingly, these young men would handcuff themselves, 1307 01:11:53,008 --> 01:11:56,044 and once they were incapacitated like that, 1308 01:11:56,145 --> 01:11:59,080 he would do the rope trick. 1309 01:11:59,181 --> 01:12:01,082 Tovar: When he would turn them around, 1310 01:12:01,183 --> 01:12:03,284 he'd take a piece of rope with the loops on the end, 1311 01:12:03,385 --> 01:12:04,552 loop them together, 1312 01:12:04,653 --> 01:12:08,089 put a piece of wood through it as a tourniquet, 1313 01:12:08,190 --> 01:12:11,926 and start tightening it around their neck. 1314 01:12:12,027 --> 01:12:14,128 Hachmeister: He had it down to such a science 1315 01:12:14,229 --> 01:12:17,298 that he could get it to where he could rest the stick 1316 01:12:17,366 --> 01:12:21,269 on the individual's back and it wouldn't unwind, 1317 01:12:21,370 --> 01:12:24,072 and then he could go around and do different things in the house 1318 01:12:24,173 --> 01:12:27,342 and go back and torture the young man and kill him. 1319 01:12:27,443 --> 01:12:29,277 [ Camera shutter clicks ] 1320 01:12:29,378 --> 01:12:32,480 We tried to remain as calm as we could listening to this 1321 01:12:32,581 --> 01:12:35,016 and how he tortured these young men. 1322 01:12:35,117 --> 01:12:37,429 It actually made the hair on the back of your head stand up. 1323 01:12:37,453 --> 01:12:42,757 It was unbelievable. 1324 01:12:42,858 --> 01:12:45,360 Narrator: Gacy admits to raping and killing 1325 01:12:45,461 --> 01:12:52,066 more than 30 young men in his home from 1972 to 1978. 1326 01:12:52,167 --> 01:12:57,805 He was flippant about it. To him, it was a game. 1327 01:13:15,224 --> 01:13:17,658 ♪♪ 1328 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,862 By now, word spread around Chicago... 1329 01:13:20,963 --> 01:13:24,632 Bodies in a basement on Summerdale Avenue. 1330 01:13:24,733 --> 01:13:28,636 The police had information where the bodies were 1331 01:13:28,737 --> 01:13:30,938 and were going to bring them out. 1332 01:13:31,039 --> 01:13:33,374 I, like all the other reporters in town, 1333 01:13:33,475 --> 01:13:36,444 rushed to the scene and watched it happen. 1334 01:13:36,512 --> 01:13:39,514 Tovar: The medical examiner said he wanted us to dig 1335 01:13:39,615 --> 01:13:42,083 in a archeological-type situation 1336 01:13:42,184 --> 01:13:45,620 so we could verify where everybody was taken. 1337 01:13:45,721 --> 01:13:49,690 So each one of us got a section of the house to dig. 1338 01:13:49,792 --> 01:13:53,227 Mine was the kitchen. 1339 01:13:53,328 --> 01:13:58,099 Eventually, the whole floor was completely taken up 1340 01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,903 so that the investigators had enough room 1341 01:14:02,004 --> 01:14:06,140 in a narrow crawl space to be able to dig. 1342 01:14:08,343 --> 01:14:10,845 Tovar: Whoever was in the hole digging up the body 1343 01:14:10,946 --> 01:14:13,781 would put the pieces of flesh and bones 1344 01:14:13,882 --> 01:14:16,284 into a body bag down in the hole, 1345 01:14:16,385 --> 01:14:18,686 and then you'd give them to someone who was above you 1346 01:14:18,787 --> 01:14:20,254 on the floor level. 1347 01:14:20,355 --> 01:14:21,622 [ Camera shutter clicks ] 1348 01:14:21,723 --> 01:14:27,895 We took extreme care to honor and respect the remains. 1349 01:14:27,996 --> 01:14:30,198 Jacobson: The story was huge from the minute 1350 01:14:30,299 --> 01:14:33,668 we first saw or heard of the first body 1351 01:14:33,769 --> 01:14:36,370 and then subsequently, everyone thereafter, 1352 01:14:36,472 --> 01:14:37,905 the story just got bigger. 1353 01:14:38,006 --> 01:14:40,475 Police digging under a house in Des Plaines, Illinois, 1354 01:14:40,576 --> 01:14:42,176 found four more bodies today. 1355 01:14:42,277 --> 01:14:43,911 That brings the total to nine. 1356 01:14:44,012 --> 01:14:45,546 Man: They found two more bodies today, 1357 01:14:45,647 --> 01:14:47,181 long dead and decomposed, 1358 01:14:47,282 --> 01:14:50,384 man #2: Six bodies bring the total found to 15. 1359 01:14:50,486 --> 01:14:52,787 Narrator: Each day, the crowds grew. 1360 01:14:52,888 --> 01:14:56,757 Hundreds stood outside, reporters and onlookers 1361 01:14:56,859 --> 01:14:59,961 all waiting for the nightly body count. 1362 01:15:00,062 --> 01:15:03,130 Human nature loves bad crime stories. 1363 01:15:03,232 --> 01:15:05,266 This couldn't have been any worse. 1364 01:15:05,367 --> 01:15:07,134 So everybody was interested. 1365 01:15:07,236 --> 01:15:09,237 [ Indistinct chatter ] 1366 01:15:10,606 --> 01:15:13,341 You have to realize, you know, there were a few TV stations 1367 01:15:13,442 --> 01:15:14,942 and everybody carried the same thing, 1368 01:15:15,043 --> 01:15:18,179 and when it came on, I do remember my mother said, 1369 01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,482 "your brother's one of them." 1370 01:15:21,583 --> 01:15:24,719 Narrator: By December 28, 21 bodies were removed 1371 01:15:24,820 --> 01:15:27,321 from the house on Summerdale Avenue. 1372 01:15:27,422 --> 01:15:30,258 Gacy's map was proving accurate. 1373 01:15:30,359 --> 01:15:33,361 Still, there was the question of Rob Piest, 1374 01:15:33,462 --> 01:15:36,464 the young man whose disappearance 10 days earlier 1375 01:15:36,565 --> 01:15:38,533 led to all of this. 1376 01:15:38,634 --> 01:15:40,468 He never seemed to be rattled about anything. 1377 01:15:40,569 --> 01:15:42,270 The only time I saw him get irritated 1378 01:15:42,371 --> 01:15:46,374 was when detective Adams asked him about Robert Piest, 1379 01:15:46,475 --> 01:15:48,342 whether he had suffered. 1380 01:15:48,443 --> 01:15:51,412 Narrator: In chilling detail, Gacy tells them what happened 1381 01:15:51,513 --> 01:15:53,814 that night at the Nisson pharmacy. 1382 01:16:20,609 --> 01:16:23,344 Rob Piest's death was like so many others. 1383 01:16:23,445 --> 01:16:25,646 Gacy's pattern remained the same. 1384 01:17:05,821 --> 01:17:07,855 Tovar: I-55 is a major interstate 1385 01:17:07,956 --> 01:17:09,223 going south from here, 1386 01:17:09,324 --> 01:17:12,193 and it crosses the Des Plaines river. 1387 01:17:12,294 --> 01:17:15,329 And what Gacy did to Robert Piest 1388 01:17:15,430 --> 01:17:17,231 and three other victims 1389 01:17:17,332 --> 01:17:21,636 is he'd pull up to the side of the bridge 1390 01:17:21,737 --> 01:17:23,571 and turn on that red light he had. 1391 01:17:23,672 --> 01:17:26,941 So people driving by assumed there was a police officer, 1392 01:17:27,042 --> 01:17:29,877 and they just wouldn't pay any attention. 1393 01:17:29,945 --> 01:17:31,465 And he'd open the trunk, take the body, 1394 01:17:31,546 --> 01:17:33,781 and just throw it over the side into the river. 1395 01:17:33,882 --> 01:17:38,185 ♪♪ 1396 01:17:38,286 --> 01:17:42,356 Narrator: 29 on his property, four in the river, 1397 01:17:42,457 --> 01:17:45,893 all young men, all raped and strangled. 1398 01:17:45,994 --> 01:17:48,496 John Wayne Gacy was now "the killer clown" 1399 01:17:48,597 --> 01:17:52,299 and America’s most prolific killer. 1400 01:17:52,401 --> 01:17:54,368 By new year's day, dental records helped 1401 01:17:54,469 --> 01:17:58,973 police identify six victims, including 19-year-old John Szyc, 1402 01:17:59,074 --> 01:18:01,542 who disappeared two years earlier. 1403 01:18:01,643 --> 01:18:04,745 His high-school ring was found in Gacy's house. 1404 01:18:04,846 --> 01:18:08,716 Gregory Godzik's family also got the knock on the door. 1405 01:18:10,852 --> 01:18:14,221 I remember they come in, they make you sit down. 1406 01:18:14,322 --> 01:18:17,925 And they said, "Mr. Godzik and Mrs. Godzik, 1407 01:18:18,026 --> 01:18:20,261 I would like to tell you your son 1408 01:18:20,362 --> 01:18:24,298 is one of the official victims of John Wayne Gacy." 1409 01:18:24,366 --> 01:18:28,903 And they turn around and they walk out. 1410 01:18:29,004 --> 01:18:30,538 And that's when I said to my mother, 1411 01:18:30,639 --> 01:18:32,206 "I told you he'd come home. 1412 01:18:32,307 --> 01:18:34,608 I just didn't think it would be this way." 1413 01:18:39,181 --> 01:18:41,682 Narrator: It was the early spring before Rob Piest's body 1414 01:18:41,783 --> 01:18:45,319 was recovered from the Des Plaines river. 1415 01:18:45,420 --> 01:18:49,090 By then, Gacy is charged with 33 counts of murder. 1416 01:18:49,191 --> 01:18:51,292 [ Camera shutter clicks ] 1417 01:18:51,393 --> 01:18:54,261 He pleads not guilty by reason of insanity, 1418 01:18:54,362 --> 01:18:56,664 now claiming it was his alter ego, 1419 01:18:56,765 --> 01:19:00,367 Jack, who did the murders, not him. 1420 01:19:00,469 --> 01:19:05,072 By making a statement to us about a split personality, 1421 01:19:05,173 --> 01:19:08,676 he really cemented himself in with that defense 1422 01:19:08,777 --> 01:19:10,444 by the time it came to trial. 1423 01:19:10,545 --> 01:19:13,013 It didn't work. 1424 01:19:13,115 --> 01:19:16,484 Narrator: The trial lasts five weeks. 1425 01:19:16,585 --> 01:19:18,786 Woman: It took the jury of seven men and five women 1426 01:19:18,887 --> 01:19:20,287 less than two hours to find 1427 01:19:20,388 --> 01:19:24,225 John Wayne Gacy guilty of murdering 33 young men. 1428 01:19:24,326 --> 01:19:26,527 Gacy was convicted of murdering more people 1429 01:19:26,628 --> 01:19:28,462 than anyone else in U.S. history. 1430 01:19:28,563 --> 01:19:33,334 I feel that the jury certainly sent a loud message to him 1431 01:19:33,435 --> 01:19:36,370 and others who might want to do it in that manner by the fact 1432 01:19:36,471 --> 01:19:38,973 that they only deliberated for an hour and 45 minutes. 1433 01:19:39,074 --> 01:19:41,742 Woman: It was an emotional time for relatives of the victims, 1434 01:19:41,843 --> 01:19:44,311 and many, like Ken Piest, whose brother was killed, 1435 01:19:44,412 --> 01:19:45,579 want revenge. 1436 01:19:45,714 --> 01:19:47,481 There's only one solution now. 1437 01:19:47,582 --> 01:19:48,649 What is that? 1438 01:19:48,750 --> 01:19:50,251 I want to see him go to the chair. 1439 01:19:50,352 --> 01:19:52,620 I hope he does get the electric chair. 1440 01:19:52,721 --> 01:19:54,288 Then it'll make everybody feel better. 1441 01:19:54,389 --> 01:19:58,526 I'm sure it'll make the other mothers feel better, too. 1442 01:19:58,627 --> 01:20:00,961 Narrator: Gacy is sentenced to death. 1443 01:20:01,062 --> 01:20:06,400 Revenge... that he killed my son and that we're gonna kill him. 1444 01:20:06,501 --> 01:20:08,135 And, you know, it's a life for a life, 1445 01:20:08,236 --> 01:20:11,639 is what it boils down to. 1446 01:20:11,740 --> 01:20:14,742 Tovar: We started out with a missing 1447 01:20:14,843 --> 01:20:18,979 15-year-old boy in a suburban town. 1448 01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:21,015 And then it just grew to what it grew. 1449 01:20:21,116 --> 01:20:24,885 ♪♪ 1450 01:20:24,986 --> 01:20:28,289 Albrecht: They were just young kids, 1451 01:20:28,390 --> 01:20:30,191 15 to 17 years old, 1452 01:20:30,292 --> 01:20:35,763 and got taken advantage of by a vicious, evil man. 1453 01:20:35,864 --> 01:20:40,301 ♪♪ 1454 01:20:40,402 --> 01:20:42,136 Sullivan: Not only did he have his victims, 1455 01:20:42,237 --> 01:20:46,774 but he affected so many, so many people. 1456 01:20:49,344 --> 01:20:51,478 A mom and a dad, 1457 01:20:51,580 --> 01:20:55,015 maybe a brother and a sister, maybe more than that. 1458 01:20:55,116 --> 01:20:56,550 Friends. 1459 01:20:59,321 --> 01:21:05,426 Now take that and multiply that by 33 that we know of. 1460 01:21:05,527 --> 01:21:11,198 ♪♪ 1461 01:21:11,266 --> 01:21:16,937 ♪♪ 1462 01:21:17,038 --> 01:21:19,840 Tovar: Had he not taken Robert Piest, 1463 01:21:19,941 --> 01:21:22,176 who knows how long he could have kept going on? 1464 01:21:22,277 --> 01:21:27,147 ♪♪ 1465 01:21:27,249 --> 01:21:29,216 Godzik: My father was very religious. 1466 01:21:29,317 --> 01:21:31,719 He was very catholic with the rosaries, 1467 01:21:31,820 --> 01:21:36,323 and he said, "god would never do this to me, but he did." 1468 01:21:36,424 --> 01:21:38,225 And from that point on, 1469 01:21:38,326 --> 01:21:41,395 my father never went back to church again after that. 1470 01:21:41,496 --> 01:21:42,630 Never. 1471 01:21:42,731 --> 01:21:47,568 ♪♪ 1472 01:21:47,669 --> 01:21:50,037 We were lucky enough that in two years, 1473 01:21:50,138 --> 01:21:52,740 we found closure in our family, 1474 01:21:52,841 --> 01:21:56,944 but other people could be wondering, "where are they?" 1475 01:21:57,045 --> 01:21:59,780 Who are they?" That's the sad part. 1476 01:21:59,881 --> 01:22:07,554 ♪♪ 1477 01:22:07,656 --> 01:22:10,624 Moran: I grew up in Chicago. 1478 01:22:10,725 --> 01:22:14,261 There wasn't really a person in the Chicago area 1479 01:22:14,362 --> 01:22:17,731 that did not know of the Gacy killings. 1480 01:22:19,734 --> 01:22:23,070 Narrator: Lieutenant Jason Moran was a kid in 1978 1481 01:22:23,171 --> 01:22:26,974 when Chicago's most notorious murder spree unraveled. 1482 01:22:27,075 --> 01:22:28,676 He never dreamed, when he became head 1483 01:22:28,777 --> 01:22:31,111 of Cook County's cold case unit, 1484 01:22:31,212 --> 01:22:35,215 that the killer clown's case would be one of them. 1485 01:22:35,317 --> 01:22:36,884 Lieutenant Moran came to me and said, 1486 01:22:36,985 --> 01:22:42,923 "hey, you know, the largest cold case is the Gacy case." 1487 01:22:43,024 --> 01:22:44,925 He was convicted of all those cases, 1488 01:22:45,026 --> 01:22:50,931 but there was eight boys who were never identified. 1489 01:22:51,032 --> 01:22:54,368 Narrator: In 2011, armed with DNA technology, 1490 01:22:54,469 --> 01:22:55,803 lieutenant Moran set out 1491 01:22:55,904 --> 01:22:59,640 to identify those last eight young men. 1492 01:22:59,741 --> 01:23:03,143 Moran: As soon as we announced the reopening of the case, 1493 01:23:03,244 --> 01:23:05,713 I mean, it was absolutely overwhelming, you know, 1494 01:23:05,814 --> 01:23:07,481 because there could only be eight. 1495 01:23:07,582 --> 01:23:09,483 There was only eight unidentified victims, 1496 01:23:09,584 --> 01:23:11,024 so there could only be eight families 1497 01:23:11,119 --> 01:23:13,754 looking for their missing loved one. 1498 01:23:15,890 --> 01:23:19,226 Within a couple of days, we received over 100 calls 1499 01:23:19,327 --> 01:23:23,697 from family members of missing persons all over the country, 1500 01:23:23,798 --> 01:23:27,935 and I was becoming a national repository 1501 01:23:28,036 --> 01:23:31,271 for missing kids from the '70s. 1502 01:23:31,373 --> 01:23:32,806 Narrator: The killer clown 1503 01:23:32,907 --> 01:23:34,975 and mass murderer Dean Allen Corll, 1504 01:23:35,076 --> 01:23:36,443 the Candyman in Houston, 1505 01:23:36,544 --> 01:23:41,415 awakened America to a nightmare hidden in its own backyard. 1506 01:23:41,516 --> 01:23:44,051 Moran: When you do criminal investigations 1507 01:23:44,152 --> 01:23:45,319 for any amount of time, 1508 01:23:45,420 --> 01:23:50,457 you know that there's always more to a case 1509 01:23:50,558 --> 01:23:54,661 than you hear in court or that you hear in the media. 1510 01:23:54,763 --> 01:23:56,897 Narrator: And there was a lot more. 1511 01:23:56,998 --> 01:24:01,135 Gacy and Corll were two piranhas in a much larger pond, 1512 01:24:01,236 --> 01:24:06,440 a hidden network, a web stretching across America. 1513 01:24:24,259 --> 01:24:27,227 This was a guy that just could not stop. 1514 01:24:27,328 --> 01:24:29,296 Woman: The raid last night netted police 1515 01:24:29,397 --> 01:24:32,666 box after box of pictures of young males available 1516 01:24:32,767 --> 01:24:35,836 to older men for homosexual activities. 1517 01:24:35,937 --> 01:24:38,772 This was a pond of perversity. 1518 01:24:38,873 --> 01:24:41,608 Narrator: Next time on "the clown & the Candyman"... 1519 01:24:41,709 --> 01:24:44,578 And this John David Norman was absolutely a traveling criminal. 1520 01:24:44,646 --> 01:24:48,115 Man: He sent boys to service clients throughout the states. 1521 01:24:48,216 --> 01:24:49,950 They came from all walks of life. 1522 01:24:50,051 --> 01:24:51,529 Man #2: They would infiltrate organizations 1523 01:24:51,553 --> 01:24:53,220 like the boy scouts, like big brothers, 1524 01:24:53,321 --> 01:24:54,321 police departments. 1525 01:24:54,422 --> 01:24:55,789 Man #3: This was a national scheme. 1526 01:24:55,890 --> 01:24:58,559 They were supplying boys all over the country. 1527 01:24:58,660 --> 01:25:01,095 It's a very good cover for these individuals because 1528 01:25:01,196 --> 01:25:02,696 they look like "philanthropists," 1529 01:25:02,797 --> 01:25:04,598 that they're helping young boys. 1530 01:25:04,699 --> 01:25:07,868 Grooming is like psychological and emotional quicksand. 1531 01:25:07,969 --> 01:25:09,536 When you realize what's happening, 1532 01:25:09,637 --> 01:25:11,717 you're already neck deep and you can't get out of it. 1533 01:25:11,741 --> 01:25:13,741 >>>>oakislandtk<<<<< www.opensubtitles.org 125016

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