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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,300 --> 00:00:07,939 MUSIC: Beck's 2 00:00:17,300 --> 00:00:24,059 This programme Contains some strong language. 3 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,419 I was taken there by a girlfriend as a tourist about 1966. 4 00:00:33,420 --> 00:00:36,399 She took me in and i wandered in onto the stage, and it just 5 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,079 struck me, "This is the most famous place in Hollywood, isn't it?" 6 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,099 And I just thought, "We'll never play here." 7 00:00:41,100 --> 00:00:44,099 And 50 years later, I had my own show there. 8 00:00:44,100 --> 00:00:45,859 He's a maverick, 9 00:00:45,860 --> 00:00:49,859 a maverick guitar player who doesn't like to repeat himself, who takes 10 00:00:49,860 --> 00:00:53,999 big risks all the time, has done so all the way through his Career. 11 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,079 The guitar player who builds hot rods. 12 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,859 I mean the two go very well together. 13 00:00:59,860 --> 00:01:02,999 There's been a lot of wake-up calls for me watching Jeff 14 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,879 and listening to Jeff play and working with Jeff. 15 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:12,059 It's always intriguing, you know? And he's a great musician. 16 00:01:12,060 --> 00:01:14,399 He has so much to offer that... 17 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,699 ..you know, he's been able to carve his own path. 18 00:01:17,700 --> 00:01:20,979 Music draws people together, and somebody lights a touchpaper 19 00:01:20,980 --> 00:01:24,059 and it goes bang and that's it. He makes you feel, like, impoetant, 20 00:01:24,060 --> 00:01:26,059 like what you have to offer's a beautiful thing. 21 00:01:26,060 --> 00:01:29,759 Most guitar fans just play guitar, and Jeff can make it sing. 22 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,219 Jeff has got effects up the ying-yang when he"s recorded, 23 00:01:34,220 --> 00:01:39,399 but live he brings it to a different level. 24 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,039 Part of Jeff's mystique is that he likes being mysterious. 25 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,339 He's a bit of an unsung hero to the masses. 26 00:01:46,340 --> 00:01:48,439 Part of that is due to 27 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,439 many albums not having vocals. 28 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,899 I told him that he was the Pablo Picasso of electric guitar and 29 00:01:54,900 --> 00:01:57,519 he said back to me, 30 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,959 "I would think i was more the Jackson Poliock." 31 00:01:59,960 --> 00:02:04,079 And I was like, "Touche!" 32 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,179 It"s so instinctive and it's so exciting to be around, 33 00:02:10,180 --> 00:02:12,339 because you just don"t know what's going to happen next. 34 00:02:12,340 --> 00:02:15,339 This is not paint by numbers, this is the muse, 35 00:02:15,340 --> 00:02:18,179 and the muse is going to say what it"s going to say. 36 00:02:18,180 --> 00:02:21,039 And he lets it happen, and, "Next!" 37 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,119 He's such a forward thinker and an innovator. 38 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,279 He's just always reaching for a new thing. 39 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,159 Jeff is an incredible artist, and i always have an affinity 40 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,719 for male artists who can find fantastic 41 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,179 female artists to accompany them. 42 00:02:34,180 --> 00:02:37,899 Jeff is the guy who took the instrument of guitar to the 43 00:02:37,900 --> 00:02:40,719 furthest reaches of guitar universe. 44 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,159 And nobody even come close. 45 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,339 Everybody respects Jeff. He's an extraordinary musician, 46 00:02:46,340 --> 00:02:50,899 and he's developed a technique which is so complex it's just 47 00:02:50,900 --> 00:02:54,439 a beauty to behoId and to hear and to feel his playing. 48 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,039 He's having a conversation with you when he"s playing, 49 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,059 it's just he's not singing. 50 00:02:59,060 --> 00:03:02,219 He gets sounds that no other guitar player gets. 51 00:03:02,220 --> 00:03:05,559 He bends notes like no other guitar player. You know? 52 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:13,559 He was - and is still - the most original guitar player ever. 53 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,179 My mum played the piano so, being in close proximity to her, 54 00:03:23,180 --> 00:03:24,599 music was always around. 55 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,459 She was either playing the piano or sticking me in the living room 56 00:03:27,460 --> 00:03:30,599 with the radio, so there'd be whatever was on at the time. 57 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:35,339 She had very strict ideas and hopes of what she wanted me to be. 58 00:03:35,340 --> 00:03:39,039 I would love to play the piano, but it"s already done. 59 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,159 And after i heard Art Tatum, there was 60 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:50,159 a good enough reason never to ever sit in front of a piano again! 61 00:03:51,460 --> 00:03:54,559 I just thought, "There's no place for another pianist." 62 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,459 I didn't feel that was my destiny, whereas guitar, 63 00:03:57,460 --> 00:03:59,039 I didn't have to think about it. 64 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,599 I wouldn't have cared if it had been the worst waste of my life, 65 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,159 I still wanted to be alone with it 66 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:12,059 and just pour my feelings into it. It responds so readily to touch. 67 00:04:12,060 --> 00:04:15,619 The radio was never off. I think my mum put it there just to shut me up. 68 00:04:15,620 --> 00:04:19,259 # Somewhere there's music How faint the tune 69 00:04:19,260 --> 00:04:22,799 # Somewhere there's heaven How high the moon 70 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:27,019 # There is no moon above When love is far away, too 71 00:04:27,020 --> 00:04:29,119 # Till it comes true... # 72 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,499 And the Les Paul influence was 73 00:04:31,500 --> 00:04:35,759 because some programme or other had How High The Moon, and every time it 74 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,239 Came onto the radio, I would run to the kitchen 75 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:39,819 and say, "Mum, what's this?" 76 00:04:39,820 --> 00:04:43,879 She said, 'i've read about that guy. He's just a box of tricks. 77 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,059 ""He's a phoney." i went... "This is interesting!"" 78 00:04:47,060 --> 00:04:53,139 Electric guitar, phoney - you know, to a kid, it"s intriguing. 79 00:04:53,140 --> 00:04:56,359 She said, "Well, it was revealed that he can't play that fast, 80 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,719 "it's all sped up." 81 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,139 And I said, "Well, I like the sound he's making. 82 00:05:04,140 --> 00:05:06,019 "It doesn't matter if it's sped up." 83 00:05:06,020 --> 00:05:08,379 I was interested in the guitar solos 84 00:05:08,380 --> 00:05:10,819 on the records my sister was playing. 85 00:05:10,820 --> 00:05:14,799 Hound Dog for example. Rock Around The Clock. This was heaven! 86 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,239 And I staeted to analyse sound in great detail. 87 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:25,059 Eddie Cochran had a slap echo. Cliff Gallup had a slap echo. 88 00:05:25,060 --> 00:05:29,479 It was just too good. Those records still sound astonishingly good. 89 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,359 Once i got to know Jeff and talked to him about his influences, 90 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,679 he liked that guy that was with Gene Vincent a lot, you know, 91 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,299 Cliff Gallup. 92 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,439 My sister went to the Sutton Granada and saw this film, 93 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,139 and she said "You have to see it. 94 00:05:50,140 --> 00:05:52,879 "It"s just the most amazing TechniColor film of everything 95 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,499 "you like, everything we like." 96 00:05:54,500 --> 00:05:58,799 And I went with some friends to see VinCent and the Blue Caps in colour. 97 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:06,799 It was life-changing. That is the best rock and roll film ever made. 98 00:06:07,500 --> 00:06:11,179 Everything that I loved seemed to be coming from America - 99 00:06:11,180 --> 00:06:14,879 the cars, the music. I couldn't see any way of ever getting there. 100 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,239 I'm talking about no money at all. 101 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,179 My sister came in one day from school 102 00:06:19,180 --> 00:06:21,919 and threw this piece of paper with a phone number on it. 103 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,619 "Here's the number of a geek at school who"s got 104 00:06:24,620 --> 00:06:27,239 "a weird-looking guitar like yours." 105 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:32,259 And she agreed to take this bus ride over to Epsom where we 106 00:06:32,260 --> 00:06:35,499 knocked on the door and this fresh-faced little kid 107 00:06:35,500 --> 00:06:38,699 answered the door, and he invited us in. 108 00:06:38,700 --> 00:06:40,179 Well, he came round to my house. 109 00:06:40,180 --> 00:06:43,239 I was living at home, of course, with my parents. 110 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,119 And Jeff came in and he had a home-made guitar, 111 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,999 and i also had a home-made guitar there as well. 112 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,579 And we just soet of Clicked immediately. 113 00:06:51,580 --> 00:06:56,559 It was like two brothers, you know, almost. 114 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,759 It was just a joyous thing, to find 115 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,939 somebody else who had this Common interest. 116 00:07:00,940 --> 00:07:03,439 He'd come round and we"d soet of hang out 117 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,139 and i'd play records to him. 118 00:07:05,140 --> 00:07:08,919 He had equipment. He had a tape recorder and all the goodies 119 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,579 and a great reCord collection, mouthwatering collection. 120 00:07:12,580 --> 00:07:16,479 I had such an electric mix of recordsI even as a teenager. 121 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,759 It was a great adventure, 122 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,919 finding other people who might know a different chord to you or 123 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,319 finding a record shop where they were importing, say, 124 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,679 Vee-jay records - this is a Chicago movement of the fifties, 125 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,879 a blues movement - as opposed to all the Chess catalogue. 126 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,439 And there was lots of pilgrimages involved. 127 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,619 And all of those guitarists from that point, 128 00:07:38,620 --> 00:07:40,499 we aIl learnt from records. 129 00:07:40,500 --> 00:07:43,699 So we used to sit there listening and go baCk over the solo. 130 00:07:43,700 --> 00:07:46,179 Never mind the song, never mind the singer! 131 00:07:46,180 --> 00:07:48,679 "What the hell"s THAT going on?" You know? 132 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,179 "How is this sounding like a ricochet effect? 133 00:07:52,180 --> 00:07:54,059 "And why does it sound so exciting?" 134 00:07:54,060 --> 00:07:56,699 You wanted to see if you Could play what was on them. 135 00:07:56,700 --> 00:07:59,919 It was quite an acComplishment to hear something that was really, 136 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:03,319 really amazing to you and really moved you but then really, 137 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,479 actually, work towards being able to play it. 138 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:06,939 You"ve got a paetner in crime, 139 00:08:06,940 --> 00:08:09,919 you've got somebody to hammer out ideas. 140 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,939 When you've learnt something that sounds reasonably impressive, 141 00:08:12,940 --> 00:08:15,579 you want somebody to see what they think of it. 142 00:08:15,580 --> 00:08:19,699 We were really, really keen on exactly the same things, 143 00:08:19,700 --> 00:08:23,619 with the Gene Vincent records and Ricky Nelson records. 144 00:08:23,620 --> 00:08:26,919 There were always fine guitar solos by James Burton, 145 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,139 and one of the things that we would ask of each other was, 146 00:08:30,140 --> 00:08:32,499 "What's your version of My Babe?" 147 00:08:32,500 --> 00:08:36,119 "OK, yeah. What's your version?" 148 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,999 That seemed to be a soet of communal ground between most guitarists 149 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,119 around that time, to see how well other guys could cut this solo. 150 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,979 MUSIC: My Babe by Ricky Nelson 151 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,079 I used to Iove going over there. 152 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:02,119 To have something that was so close to my heaet and to my ears, 153 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,539 as well it hit all the jackpots. 154 00:09:05,540 --> 00:09:09,599 It seemed like everybody was Coming out of aet school in the 'SOs, 155 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,079 when rock and roll first staeted to reach out from America to here. 156 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,079 It was a great way of escaping any form of work, I think 157 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,719 any form of day job! 158 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:22,379 I did love it. i did love the fact that there was a place you could go 159 00:09:22,380 --> 00:09:26,119 and draw and learn the basics of art. 160 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,759 I had two years of great fun there. 161 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:35,079 But the music took over, because midweek there was a gig in a town 162 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,999 not far from where I lived and that kept me going, just that one gig. 163 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,239 And then two gigs a week Came in, and so on. 164 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,719 And, unfoetunately, i had to bail before the end of the course. 165 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:51,719 Music was our hobby, and then we ended up being professionals. 166 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,999 When the Yardbirds came about, Eric was the force to be reckoned with. 167 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,199 They had Eric, so why did they want me? I don't understand that. 168 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,599 They were looking for hit records, 169 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,419 and we weren't making any music of that nature. 170 00:10:05,420 --> 00:10:09,079 His name was used as a replacement. They were telling me, 171 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:14,079 in a way I wasn't that vital to the organisation. So i went to see him - 172 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:15,619 he was with the Tridents - 173 00:10:15,620 --> 00:10:19,239 because I wanted to see, was he really as good as they made out? 174 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,779 And he had all these sound effects going on, and i thought, "My God! 175 00:10:23,780 --> 00:10:25,599 "I'm gone. i'm Iong gone." 176 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,899 I actually thought about retiring then 177 00:10:27,900 --> 00:10:32,199 because I thought, "i'm in the wrong business."" You know? 178 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:40,199 But seeing jeff, i thought, "Well, they're on to a good thing!" 179 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,359 SCREAMiNG 180 00:10:52,620 --> 00:10:54,779 # Sick at heart and lonely... # 181 00:10:54,780 --> 00:10:59,119 I liked the Yardbirds a lot. I liked that Heart Full Of Soul and the... 182 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:04,259 ..sitar-like playing of Jeff's. He's such a distinctive player. 183 00:11:04,260 --> 00:11:06,659 He didn't follow anyone else, really, 184 00:11:06,660 --> 00:11:09,139 just Completely out there on his own. 185 00:11:09,140 --> 00:11:11,959 They had a sitar player in the studio, 186 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:16,719 and he was thinking in sort of 1 3-and-a-quarter time signature! 187 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:21,259 And they said, "No, it's 4/4." HE iMITATES THE MELODY 188 00:11:21,260 --> 00:11:23,199 And I said, "It's soet of like this." 189 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,539 And I got the octave, the G octave, and then played... 190 00:11:27,540 --> 00:11:35,539 And I said, "Why the hell have we got him here? I can play that!" 191 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,759 I think he was a hard-rock pioneer from day one. 192 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:57,379 He was doing stuff that didn't exist except for him. 193 00:11:57,380 --> 00:12:01,419 When i first heard the Yardbirds, when i heard jeff's playing, 194 00:12:01,420 --> 00:12:05,499 it was noticeably different, even then, to my young ears. 195 00:12:05,500 --> 00:12:08,779 There was a sound to his guitar that kind of stood out 196 00:12:08,780 --> 00:12:12,879 and was different from the usual pop stuff. There was something about it, 197 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:17,379 the notes he was playing, I mean, that was more lyrical to me. 198 00:12:17,380 --> 00:12:19,959 And within a month, we were flying over to America! 199 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,759 Not only had i been to America, 200 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,539 but i'd recorded at the famous Sun Studios AND Chess Records. 201 00:12:25,540 --> 00:12:29,119 MUSIC: Shapes Of Things by the Yardbirds 202 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:34,239 # Shapes of things before my eyes 203 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,659 # Just teach me to despise 204 00:12:37,660 --> 00:12:43,159 # Will time make man more wise?... # 205 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,899 Shapes Of Things, amazing. I remember that distinctly. 206 00:12:47,900 --> 00:12:51,779 "How is it we've had to come this far to get the sound we want?" 207 00:12:51,780 --> 00:12:54,199 In England, the studios didn't get it. 208 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,659 The engineers back in England were all pure, 209 00:12:56,660 --> 00:13:00,539 they didn't like anything that rattled or squeaked. 210 00:13:00,540 --> 00:13:04,119 I wentI "Bring on the squeaks! We don"t care about that!" 211 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,019 Instantly, you hear the playback, 212 00:13:06,020 --> 00:13:09,419 we were all looking at each other going, "This is the stuff." 213 00:13:09,420 --> 00:13:14,419 Jeff would come round and he'd play me the sort of first 214 00:13:14,420 --> 00:13:18,879 Cuts of the reCords, and I remember him playing Shapes Of Things. 215 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,499 And when it came to the solo, i thought, 216 00:13:21,500 --> 00:13:24,239 "This is the most extraordinary solo." 217 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,899 Ravi Shankar was playing quite a big paet in the Beatles and stuff, 218 00:13:27,900 --> 00:13:30,719 and i used to sit over at Page's house iistening to ragas 219 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:35,499 and Vilayat Khan and Ravi Shankar and just marvelling. 220 00:13:35,500 --> 00:13:39,259 How could this be adopted in the guitar, this bending of the 221 00:13:39,260 --> 00:13:47,259 string to such an extent that you Could play a melody with one bend? 222 00:14:00,500 --> 00:14:05,259 The work that Jeff did in the Yardbirds was of paramount 223 00:14:05,260 --> 00:14:07,419 impoetance to guitar-based groups 224 00:14:07,420 --> 00:14:11,619 because he had an incredible ear and he set an amazing standard, 225 00:14:11,620 --> 00:14:16,239 and also that his technique was extraordinary, as well. 226 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,999 And I must say, when i heard that, 227 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:23,719 I really understood what Jeff was really capabie of. 228 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:28,139 The Yardbirds had a crazy manager, and i remember Giorgio freaking. 229 00:14:28,140 --> 00:14:31,759 Steam was coming out of his ears when i played that song. 230 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,239 "This is exactly why you"re in this band. 231 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:40,539 "You are opening up surreal avenues, like avant-garde avenues, 232 00:14:40,540 --> 00:14:43,139 "for the guitar in this band." 233 00:14:43,140 --> 00:14:45,119 Giorgio was great but i think 234 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,999 there was some skulduggery going on with the money. 235 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,999 I don't know. All i know is I never made any of it. 236 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,619 I think i must have threatened to leave unless they got rid of him. 237 00:14:53,620 --> 00:14:57,079 Then Simon Napier-Bell appeared and agreed to take over. 238 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,779 Within five minutes, jimmy Page is in the band 239 00:14:59,780 --> 00:15:02,779 and we were on the set of Blow-Up. 240 00:15:02,780 --> 00:15:05,199 And nobody knew what it was going to be like, as most movies, 241 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:06,499 they don"t really tell you. 242 00:15:06,500 --> 00:15:09,299 But I was just told that Antonioni was a great director 243 00:15:09,300 --> 00:15:12,359 and surreal, and itjust seemed like a cool thing. 244 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,379 And the cheque for 3,000 was amazing. 245 00:15:15,380 --> 00:15:17,139 And I don't think any of the band 246 00:15:17,140 --> 00:15:19,499 had ever seen that kind of money in one lump. 247 00:15:19,500 --> 00:15:24,539 They all went out and invested sensibly in fruit-and-veg shops. 248 00:15:24,540 --> 00:15:26,379 Shops. Business. 249 00:15:26,380 --> 00:15:29,539 And I invested in a "63 split-window Corvette, 250 00:15:29,540 --> 00:15:32,479 which was the only sensible thing for a person like me to deal with! 251 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,979 ENGINES ROAR 252 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,539 I had a girlfriend in LA, and it was a Comfoetable place, 253 00:15:39,540 --> 00:15:41,839 the weather was amazing. 254 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:46,299 And I left all that to go on this tour with the Yardbirds. 255 00:15:46,300 --> 00:15:48,539 I'd never played in America before. 256 00:15:48,540 --> 00:15:50,879 It was a shock, it was really surreal 257 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,379 from everything that I thought that it was going to be. 258 00:15:53,380 --> 00:15:58,299 The Dick Clark Caravan of Stars was a conglomeration of acts that 259 00:15:58,300 --> 00:16:01,139 would all get on stage and do two or three songs. 260 00:16:01,140 --> 00:16:02,719 They would tour in buses. 261 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,619 You know, you had to be a real trouper. 262 00:16:04,620 --> 00:16:09,999 I mean they would go out on the road and do 60 dates in 60 days. 263 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,139 And that was very, very odd, because it was a colleCtion 264 00:16:14,140 --> 00:16:19,379 of teenybop stars, teenyboppers for a very young audience. 265 00:16:19,380 --> 00:16:21,259 ..in a bus that stank, 266 00:16:21,260 --> 00:16:24,199 and it was crammed with people that didn"t really like us. 267 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,759 We didn't get on with the rest of the cast. 268 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,259 And there was a toilet that got busted and that didn"t work, 269 00:16:30,260 --> 00:16:33,999 and people had to sleep in the luggage racks. 270 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,879 But Jeff missed all that, because he left pretty early, 271 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,599 after just a few dates. 272 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,759 After two gigs, I thought, ""I"ve just nearly killed myself to 273 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:47,899 "do nearly 15 minutes on stage," the two hits plus one other song. 274 00:16:47,900 --> 00:16:50,199 That's it. It was a quick turnaround. 275 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,259 Jerry Lewis's son was on the tour Gary Lewis and the Playboys, 276 00:16:54,260 --> 00:16:57,839 and i thought, "This is so Middle America. 277 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,139 "We're telling people that we're paet of this. We're not." 278 00:17:01,140 --> 00:17:06,919 The Yardbirds were completely on the road to forging a unique 279 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,759 Career, you know? 280 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,439 And they threw it into this ridiculous mixing box. 281 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:17,679 And I Called Jim to my room. I said, "Jim, I've just had the horrors. 282 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,239 "Here's my guitar. You take lead tomorrow. 283 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,858 "I'm not even going to take the guitar." That was the end of me. 284 00:17:22,859 --> 00:17:25,959 No girlfriend, no Yardbirds no nothing. 285 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,959 But I had my Corvette parked in my mothet's sideway, 286 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,959 so i was free to dream again. 287 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:36,399 MUSIC: Shapes Of Things by the Jeff Beck Group 288 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:41,519 # Shapes of things before my eyes 289 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,879 # just help me to despise 290 00:17:50,340 --> 00:17:55,839 # Will time make men more wise?... # 291 00:17:57,820 --> 00:18:02,719 Jeff and I met up at the Sheffield Mojo, when I was doing 292 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:07,259 the circuit up and down the motorway in my first group, the Birds. 293 00:18:07,260 --> 00:18:08,639 We got on really well, 294 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,159 and he was telling me about this gig with the Yardbirds 295 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:15,779 and kind of spoke, well, "If we ever are not in the set-up 296 00:18:15,780 --> 00:18:18,299 "we're in now, one day we"ll work together." 297 00:18:18,300 --> 00:18:22,479 One of the good things about the Yardbirds times was that we'd 298 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:27,479 Come back from a tour, maybe up north, and even at two 299 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,019 o'clock in the morning, we'd stop off at the Cromwellian Club. 300 00:18:30,020 --> 00:18:31,579 And after the Yardbirds, i thought, 301 00:18:31,580 --> 00:18:34,819 "There's nothing to stop me from going back there on my own." 302 00:18:34,820 --> 00:18:38,299 And the guy on the door went "Jeff! Nice to see you back." 303 00:18:38,300 --> 00:18:40,858 That night, there was not much going on. 304 00:18:40,859 --> 00:18:44,399 There were Motown records playing, and i'm thinking, "This is sad. 305 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:45,858 "I'm sitting alone with a beer." 306 00:18:45,859 --> 00:18:51,239 And there was one other guy in the corner, and it was Rod Stewart! 307 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,299 We talked a little bit, and he said he was forming a band, 308 00:18:55,300 --> 00:18:57,299 he'd left the Yardbirds. 309 00:18:57,300 --> 00:19:00,959 I was out of work, and I think I may have mentioned Woody and said, 310 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,759 "He's out of work as well." 311 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,239 So it was like three out-of-work musicians, and we formed a band. 312 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:10,479 His collaboration with Rod Stewaet was kind of legendary, 313 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:15,779 I mean one of the best things that Rod ever did as well as jeff 314 00:19:15,780 --> 00:19:16,999 on that Truth album. 315 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,479 It was the huskiness that was 316 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:25,579 rare to have in a white singer. I loved it. 317 00:19:25,580 --> 00:19:28,159 # Let me love you, baby 318 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:33,659 # You're driving my poor heart crazy 319 00:19:35,099 --> 00:19:37,719 # Let me love you, baby 320 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,098 # You're driving my poor heaet crazy... # 321 00:19:41,099 --> 00:19:44,759 The band, with Micky Waller, myself on bass 322 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,199 and jeff on the guitar, 323 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:50,098 the holes and the spaces that it left 324 00:19:50,099 --> 00:19:53,339 for Rod's voice in its rawness... 325 00:19:53,340 --> 00:19:55,919 jeff used to really treasure Rod"s voice, you know, 326 00:19:55,920 --> 00:20:00,759 and treasure all the things that could happen in those spaces. 327 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:05,299 # Oh, yes, you do, darling Every time I see you 328 00:20:05,300 --> 00:20:08,199 # Oh, baby, when you walk, you know what? 329 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,639 # You shake just like a willow tree 330 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,479 # No, i know, i know, I know... # 331 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,299 He believed in me, he really did. 332 00:20:17,300 --> 00:20:19,479 He wanted a proper singer in his band. 333 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,399 He had a voice that was so... 334 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,759 ..the vital instrument within the band 335 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,999 that you didn"t need a rhythm guitar. 336 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:34,399 Jeff's virtuoso performances tied up with Rod's blues-type 337 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:39,239 vocals on that album. That was absolutely a seminal album. 338 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,259 Truth has Rock My Plimsoul on it, it's got I Ain't Superstitious. 339 00:20:43,260 --> 00:20:48,299 It's really my favourite Jeff Beck, stylistically, you know? 340 00:20:48,300 --> 00:20:50,858 It's more sort of in-your-face rock and roll. 341 00:20:50,859 --> 00:20:52,579 Jeff didn't just want to play 342 00:20:52,580 --> 00:20:55,779 what Muddy Waters had played and Howlin' Wolf. 343 00:20:55,780 --> 00:21:01,199 He wanted to take it more Chicago-ish and more electric 344 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:07,098 and just take it out of that basic idiom that it's in, you know, 345 00:21:07,099 --> 00:21:10,339 and electrify it, make it more arrangements. 346 00:21:10,340 --> 00:21:12,499 Even though the songs are 1 2-bar biues, 347 00:21:12,500 --> 00:21:15,479 we arranged the songs to sound more interesting. 348 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,339 Right, let's go. I don"t want to sing it in unison, 349 00:21:18,340 --> 00:21:20,019 I want to sing it in harmony. 350 00:21:20,020 --> 00:21:24,539 Well, however you want. I'll try something on this first few chords. 351 00:21:24,540 --> 00:21:26,759 If it sounds sus, stop me, right? 352 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,579 Make the voice nearly in the baCkground. 353 00:21:29,580 --> 00:21:32,499 Mickie Most, he didn't want to know about Rod at all. 354 00:21:32,500 --> 00:21:35,199 He said, "You"re the artist. Your name is on the label." 355 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,759 I said, "No, no. I'm not interested in that, 356 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:42,059 "I"m interested in being part of a great rock band, or a blues band." 357 00:21:42,060 --> 00:21:46,339 Mickie just believed in the old dollar, make it as quiCk as you can, 358 00:21:46,340 --> 00:21:52,059 and really wanted us to be a pop band, you know, much to our dismay, 359 00:21:52,060 --> 00:21:54,239 because that"s not what we'd want to do. 360 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:59,579 He didn't see any point in having me, really. He wanted Jeff to sing. 361 00:21:59,580 --> 00:22:03,999 # You're everywhere and nowhere, baby 362 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,259 # That's where you're at 363 00:22:07,260 --> 00:22:11,539 # Going down a bumpy hillside 364 00:22:11,540 --> 00:22:13,919 # In your hippie hat... # 365 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,999 Why was he such a reluctant pop star? 366 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:20,479 I guess that just wasn't really what he ever wanted to do. 367 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,779 I don't know how that song came about. 368 00:22:22,780 --> 00:22:26,639 Some soet of pressure, if you like, from Mickie Most, 369 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,499 to try and come up with a hit. But I think he very, very quickly 370 00:22:29,500 --> 00:22:32,539 realised that wasn't ever going to be what he wanted to do. 371 00:22:32,540 --> 00:22:34,999 Absolutely his prerogative. 372 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,098 But it's given lots of other peopIe an enormous amount of pleasure! 373 00:22:38,099 --> 00:22:40,479 MuCh more pleasure than it ever gave him. 374 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,299 It"s like being asked to wear a pink frock 375 00:22:44,300 --> 00:22:47,019 and walk on top of a bus down Oxford Street! 376 00:22:47,020 --> 00:22:49,159 HE LAUGHS 377 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:54,399 It was framing me with this embarrassing pop song that 378 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:59,239 wasn't me. But over the years I've become warmed to it, 379 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,999 because it makes people feel happy. 380 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,339 Jeff, I believe, asked Mickie if I could sing Hi-Ho Silver Lining, 381 00:23:05,340 --> 00:23:07,439 but Mickie said no. 382 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,059 But you can hear me yodelling in the baCkground on the chorus. 383 00:23:11,060 --> 00:23:15,939 # And it's hi-ho, silver lining 384 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,819 # Anywhere you go, now, baby 385 00:23:19,820 --> 00:23:23,399 # I see your sun is shining 386 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,299 # But I won't make a fuss 387 00:23:26,300 --> 00:23:28,919 # Though it's obvious... # 388 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,539 just when you think you're getting there, 389 00:23:31,540 --> 00:23:33,719 you realise you're about six months away! 390 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,639 I kicked off in Mickie Most"s office, 391 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,679 and on this paeticular argument, 392 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,199 Peter Grant was there, and he was smiling at me. i was going... 393 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,779 It was as though the smile was saying, "Give him some stick, 394 00:23:44,780 --> 00:23:47,858 "he needs to be put in his place," meaning Mickie. 395 00:23:47,859 --> 00:23:50,539 Shoetly after that, he must have had a word with Mickie and said, 396 00:23:50,540 --> 00:23:53,239 "Look, Jeff was in the Yardbirds, he already opened 397 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,499 ""the door in America for himself to go baCk with the band. 398 00:23:56,500 --> 00:23:58,479 "And there's an underground scene over there." 399 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,639 Steppenwolf was happening, FM radio was happening. 400 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:06,159 There were venues and there was press and there was radio stations 401 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,959 and, you know, you could build an act by coming and touring. 402 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,959 So, this was mind-boggling, I remember, when Woody and i drove 403 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,759 across the Brooklyn Bridge in the back of a limo with Peter Grant, 404 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,098 the manager. I mean, it was just heaven. "Here we are!" 405 00:24:22,099 --> 00:24:27,159 But it was a five-month tour. it was hard work, but it was great fun. 406 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,959 When we went to America we opened at Fillmore East. 407 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,819 Talk aboutjump in the deep end! 408 00:24:33,820 --> 00:24:37,299 And that's the famous night when Rod wouldn"t come on stage. He hid. 409 00:24:37,300 --> 00:24:40,858 That was the night i hid behind the amps - absolutely true story - 410 00:24:40,859 --> 00:24:43,479 because I thought, "I"m in America, New York, 411 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,959 "I'm trying to sound like a black singer, and there's going to 412 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,719 "be loads of black people out there and they"ll throw things at me." 413 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,059 "Phoney! Fake!" But lo and behold, 414 00:24:51,060 --> 00:24:54,099 I came out and there was all loads of hippies, you know? 415 00:24:54,100 --> 00:24:58,159 And it was the staet of a wonderful, wonderful career. 416 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,339 We stormed the place. We blew the Dead off the stage. 417 00:25:01,340 --> 00:25:02,479 HE LAUGHS 418 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,199 Robert Shelton from the New York Times gave us a write-up. 419 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,479 Peter Grant rang me at seven in the morning and said 420 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,639 "Have you read the review?" I went "i don't want to." 421 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,259 He said, "No, it's amazing." 422 00:25:12,260 --> 00:25:15,299 He read it to me, about the Pinter play, the interaction of... 423 00:25:15,300 --> 00:25:16,679 H E CH UCKLES 424 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,859 And I soet of read it and i thought, "Right, what do we do now?" 425 00:25:19,860 --> 00:25:22,719 We had it reproduced and sent ahead, 426 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:27,199 we had it sent to all the places on the way to the West Coast, 427 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:33,479 so by the time we got to the Fillmore West, we'd already broken 428 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:38,199 the ground, broken into the American scene, which was fantastic! 429 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,759 We all decided to try and write songs, 430 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,479 and Ronnie and i sat around his mum's CounCil flat for hours 431 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,719 and hours with a blank piece of paper 432 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,759 until we got a bottle of wine out and we finished that. 433 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,479 Then we were able to write a song called Plynth. 434 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:58,099 # I've woken up on mornings such as this 435 00:25:58,100 --> 00:26:02,299 # And thought exactly the same as i'm thinking now 436 00:26:02,300 --> 00:26:06,499 # Every night for a year, I've slept alone 437 00:26:06,500 --> 00:26:10,639 # My cold, damp room looks worse than me 438 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:15,059 # I got a fear of death that creeps on every night 439 00:26:15,060 --> 00:26:18,999 # I know I won't die soon, but then again, i might 440 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,239 # Just like water down the drain, I'm wasting away 441 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:28,259 # And, oh doctors Can't help the ghost of a man that's me... # 442 00:26:28,260 --> 00:26:29,719 Plynth i'm very proud of, 443 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,239 Cos that was one of my compositions where I wrote the words. 444 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,299 "Moisture from the ocean fills the sky 445 00:26:34,300 --> 00:26:37,159 "Falls back down to the ground as time goes by." 446 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,479 # Like moisture from the ocean fills the sky 447 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:47,019 # Comes on down the ground as time goes by... # 448 00:26:47,020 --> 00:26:51,299 I was very proud of my bass sound and the whole thing with the drums 449 00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:53,059 and the guitar 450 00:26:53,060 --> 00:26:57,239 and Rod's soulful singing and Nicky"s piano playing. 451 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,479 It was a magic combination. 452 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,779 And it was an honour to be in the band, to be quite honest with you, 453 00:27:02,780 --> 00:27:06,639 along with Micky Waller and Nicky Hopkins and Ronnie Wood. 454 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,099 It was a great band. 455 00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:11,639 If you think about how long ago that was and what an impact 456 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,479 they must have had at the time, he's so unique and original. 457 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,579 Truth and Beck-Ola really stood out, 458 00:27:17,580 --> 00:27:19,679 sort of benchmark rock and roll records. 459 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,679 Definitely big statements for the time. 460 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,819 The sounds of those records are definitely... 461 00:27:25,820 --> 00:27:30,639 I still use them as touchstones for even what i do today, 462 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,339 because nothing sounds like those records. 463 00:27:34,340 --> 00:27:37,539 And I was lucky enough to see them live two or three times, 464 00:27:37,540 --> 00:27:39,259 and it was really exciting. 465 00:27:39,260 --> 00:27:41,539 And you never knew if he was going to show up or not. 466 00:27:41,540 --> 00:27:44,679 I meanI some of the stories about quitting in the middle 467 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,439 of a tourI that's, you know, pretty heavy. 468 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,399 You know? But that's Jeff. 469 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,199 There was a rift between me and Rod at that time. 470 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,999 I don't know how it came about. 471 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,399 It Cast a bit of doubt, like I didn't want to bank too 472 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,579 much on the next tour in case it didn't happen. 473 00:28:01,580 --> 00:28:07,239 I saw this big festival looming up on the Calendar. 474 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,299 And I was nervous about it. I thought, ""We're not ready for that. 475 00:28:11,300 --> 00:28:14,159 "We're not ready to go up against Sly and the Family Stone." 476 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,019 The Woodstock festival was two weeks away 477 00:28:17,020 --> 00:28:22,579 when the Beck Group kind of Collapsed, and i thought, 478 00:28:22,580 --> 00:28:26,399 "It's a shameI because there"s a big gig Coming up in a Couple of weeks." 479 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,819 Woodstock! 480 00:28:27,820 --> 00:28:31,959 He disappeared. In the middle of the night. Next morning, he was gone. 481 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,239 And we get a phone call. "jeff"s gone home." 482 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,539 When i saw the film, ijust thought, "Thank God for my integrity, 483 00:28:37,540 --> 00:28:41,019 "thank God that the little birdie whispered, "Don't do it,'" 484 00:28:41,020 --> 00:28:46,019 because I would have been up there, dated and frozen with that image, 485 00:28:46,020 --> 00:28:50,439 you know, with the music not being quite right. I did the right thing. 486 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,099 He could have explained it to us, and that would have made sense. 487 00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:55,919 But I do agree, I'm glad we didn't do it. 488 00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:00,059 Once again, i'm baCk to my mum's house again! 489 00:29:00,060 --> 00:29:04,339 He's not paeticularly wrapped up in his success. 490 00:29:04,340 --> 00:29:09,539 He'd just as soon not discuss music and the guitar. 491 00:29:09,540 --> 00:29:14,719 He'd rather talk about the movies that he likes and, you know, 492 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,499 Certainly his cars. 493 00:29:16,500 --> 00:29:21,059 My gran used to take me to the cinema, and she took me to see 494 00:29:21,060 --> 00:29:25,239 a posh film, but the supporting film was Hot Rod Gang. 495 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,779 She just freaked out and said, "Oh, this is not suitable," 496 00:29:27,780 --> 00:29:31,439 because the word "gang"" was in it, and she said "Right, we're leaving. 497 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,919 "Let's go out of the cinema and come back when the main feature staets." 498 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,779 I clung on to the seat. 499 00:29:39,820 --> 00:29:43,059 The opening sequence shows these two hot rods racing one 500 00:29:43,060 --> 00:29:46,639 another on opposite sides of the street. Totally cool. 501 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:51,159 And I was hit, smitten right away. 502 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,719 For a B movie, I mean, it was pretty nonsensical. 503 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,999 I still watch it from time to time, as it was suCh a massive impact. 504 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,719 Come on, Johny, let's go! 505 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,259 Hot rods has always been his passion, from when he was really, 506 00:30:03,260 --> 00:30:05,579 really young. And then he staeted building them. 507 00:30:05,580 --> 00:30:09,339 The way that he puts it most of the time, musiC and guitar 508 00:30:09,340 --> 00:30:15,819 is his job, and that's his pastime, for when he gets baCk home off tour. 509 00:30:15,820 --> 00:30:19,099 He's always kind of tinkered with his Cars as long as I've 510 00:30:19,100 --> 00:30:20,479 known him, you know? 511 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,679 I think the first time that i went to his house, the hood 512 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,099 of his Corvette was open and he might have been under the hood! 513 00:30:27,100 --> 00:30:30,499 The fact that Jeff builds those cars and the fact that he does it 514 00:30:30,500 --> 00:30:36,099 so well he's kind of a man of two passions, i think, guitar and cars. 515 00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:38,679 Your senses are sharpened, because you built it. 516 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,779 And even if you had a professionally built car, 517 00:30:41,780 --> 00:30:47,019 you're still driving an early Car, maybe a Ford or a Chevy, 518 00:30:47,020 --> 00:30:51,299 '305, and they don't handle the same as a late-model car. 519 00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:54,639 And I'm going over this hill - no top of the car, you know - 520 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,959 just 30 mph over this little, gentle incline, get to the 521 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,099 top of it and the car starts to go straight on to the oncoming traffic 522 00:31:03,100 --> 00:31:05,199 without me touching the wheel. 523 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,499 And I turned the wheel on the opposite lock, and it still 524 00:31:07,500 --> 00:31:12,299 kept going and hit this poor chap in this Morris Traveller head-on. 525 00:31:12,300 --> 00:31:19,239 Broke his legs, broke my face up. BaCk injury, ieg injury. 526 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,439 I got taken into Maidstone General, who were amazing, just incredible. 527 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,339 We had a cheerful Chappie that used to come round and shave you 528 00:31:26,340 --> 00:31:29,019 and bring you tea. I was recovering, 529 00:31:29,020 --> 00:31:32,959 and then this guy decided to bring me in a music paper. 530 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,479 And he was Scouse, and he went... 531 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,059 SCOUSE ACCENT: .."Your mate's gone and joined the Faces."" 532 00:31:37,060 --> 00:31:38,399 I went, "Oh, terrific." 533 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,439 You didn't need to hear that right at that particular time. 534 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,759 I think the biggest problem for Jeff is finding somebody to front 535 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,199 the band that really fit what he was doing. 536 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,299 He had the, y"know, arguably one of the best 537 00:31:51,300 --> 00:31:53,479 singers at the time in his band, 538 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,439 and how long did that band last? A couple of years. 539 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,919 Rod Stewart was great, but, you know, more often than not... 540 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,019 And I think one of the reasons why he ended up being 541 00:32:02,020 --> 00:32:04,679 an instrumentalist is just it was hard to find anybody that 542 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,819 really interpreted the music correctly or just had 543 00:32:09,820 --> 00:32:12,199 the right energy or whatever it was. 544 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,319 I got to Epic in mid-'72, 545 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,579 and the Orange Album had come out a few months before that. 546 00:32:20,580 --> 00:32:22,959 The name of the album is Jeff Beck Group, 547 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,819 but we all always refer to it as the Orange Album 548 00:32:25,820 --> 00:32:33,819 because there was the photo of the orange on the Cover. 549 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,499 I staeted looking round for players that could really... 550 00:32:56,500 --> 00:32:59,399 ..like, drummers that Could... I was always foCused on drummers. 551 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,259 They are the life of the band they are the driving force. 552 00:33:03,260 --> 00:33:06,639 You get your drummer right, you"re pretty muCh set for life! 553 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,499 We obviously lost a lot of regular contact, 554 00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:14,199 but when i did see Jeff, he'd always be keen on his latest line-up. 555 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,639 He'd always rave about different drummers. 556 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,579 He'd say, "i've got this guy Called Cozy Powell. 557 00:33:18,580 --> 00:33:20,299 "Listen to what i'm doing!" 558 00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:25,059 I loved Cozy. i piCked him out of a line-up of 20-odd drummers. 559 00:33:25,060 --> 00:33:29,959 Mickie Most"s secretary organised this whole audition, and she said, 560 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,539 "Jeff, I know you're late, but you don't need to look at anybody else. 561 00:33:34,540 --> 00:33:36,959 "There's your brother over there!" 562 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,539 Looking the same - same hair, you know. "All right, jeff, I"m Cozy." 563 00:33:41,540 --> 00:33:44,339 I went, "All right?" And he started playing. 564 00:33:44,340 --> 00:33:47,199 And you saw people putting their Cymbals back in the cases! 565 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,579 HE LAUGHS 566 00:33:48,580 --> 00:33:51,639 They were packing their drums ready. They knew that that was it. 567 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:56,159 And then Max Middleton came up with the idea of a simple melody 568 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,339 a bluesy thing, with a bottleneck. 569 00:33:58,340 --> 00:34:01,859 And he said, ""Why don't we write three melodies?"" 570 00:34:01,860 --> 00:34:03,859 And there are three melodies in there. 571 00:34:03,860 --> 00:34:06,299 One plays the countermelody, 572 00:34:06,300 --> 00:34:09,039 and then there's a third descant on top of that. 573 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,259 And I remember thinking, "This is a cacophony of noise." 574 00:34:13,260 --> 00:34:17,139 MUSIC: Definitely Maybe 575 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,198 Steve Cropper came down. He said, "Man, this is really amazing," 576 00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:40,519 because I was doing these parts individually and dubbing on. 577 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,419 And I wasn"t hearing the blend, I was only doing them individually 578 00:34:44,420 --> 00:34:46,979 because if I'd heard guitar number one, 579 00:34:46,980 --> 00:34:49,859 I would not have been able to play against it. 580 00:34:49,860 --> 00:34:53,459 And when i went up and heard all three put together, y'know, 581 00:34:53,460 --> 00:34:56,119 it was, "Let's buy Max a round of drinks for that one." 582 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,819 I think there's no question that Definitely Maybe led the way 583 00:34:59,820 --> 00:35:02,119 to Blow By Blow... 584 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,238 ..with a detour. With Jeff, there's always a detour. 585 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,419 # Looking for another pure love 586 00:35:08,420 --> 00:35:11,519 # In my life... # 587 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,859 Well, i've always liked playing on other people's records 588 00:35:14,860 --> 00:35:16,979 and not being named. 589 00:35:16,980 --> 00:35:21,899 I mean that thing where Stevie caIls out, "jeff!"... 590 00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:24,599 ..on Looking For Another Pure Love. 591 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,959 GUiTAR SOLO 592 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,339 Hit it, jeff. 593 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,299 And it is actually great when it happens, 594 00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:53,419 but i think I like Jeff playing on records where we're just 595 00:35:53,420 --> 00:35:59,379 kind of the mystery agent, and i like the idea of someone being 596 00:35:59,380 --> 00:36:03,259 able to identify me by what i'm playing. 597 00:36:03,260 --> 00:36:07,039 Stevie's record company needed him to do something. 598 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,159 And I wasn't doing anything. 599 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,979 And Epic said, "What if we got you in the studio with Stevie?" 600 00:36:12,980 --> 00:36:15,559 Couldn't wait for this to happen. 601 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:20,459 So, the deal was i was to play a Couple of tracks on Stevie's 602 00:36:20,460 --> 00:36:23,599 album Talking Book and then he'd write me a couple of traCks, 603 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,198 one of which was Superstition. 604 00:36:25,199 --> 00:36:29,519 He said, "What about we get a song with superstitions 605 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,979 "that you know about that the Americans maybe not know about?" 606 00:36:33,980 --> 00:36:37,599 And I said, ""Well, we don"t walk under ladders for bad luck." 607 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,939 And I said, "If you dropped a mirror, 608 00:36:39,940 --> 00:36:41,779 "that would be seven years" bad luck."" 609 00:36:41,780 --> 00:36:46,718 I staeted playing the drums in a break. He'd gone out for lunch, 610 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,639 and he'd come back and he was Clapping along to my bit, my rhythm. 611 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,238 I said, "Steve, it's not... I'm not a drummer." 612 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,939 He goes, "Yeah you are now. Don't stop." 613 00:36:57,940 --> 00:37:03,779 And he just grabbed the clavinet and staeted playing that vamp. 614 00:37:03,780 --> 00:37:07,639 And I"m thinking, "Christ, I"m playing drums to Stevie Wonder!" 615 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,339 It was pretty cool, just a simple thing that I could play. 616 00:37:11,340 --> 00:37:14,339 And then he went, "OK, I"ll lay the track down," 617 00:37:14,340 --> 00:37:17,339 because I was messing up with the fills and stuff. 618 00:37:17,340 --> 00:37:20,159 And he came and sat at the same kit and played exactly what 619 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,599 I was playing. But better. 620 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,459 And he made space for a five-chord turnaround 621 00:37:27,460 --> 00:37:31,198 all right away, and then he went straight in and put a bassline on. 622 00:37:31,199 --> 00:37:32,599 That was it. 623 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,979 When that bassline came on, the whole studio turned upside down. 624 00:37:36,980 --> 00:37:40,039 Then he went and put the lyrics on, rough lyrics, 625 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,718 and that was how that song was made. 626 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,839 # Seven years of bad luck 627 00:37:47,340 --> 00:37:52,099 # The good things in your past 628 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:57,379 # When you believe in things that you don"t understand 629 00:37:57,380 --> 00:38:00,519 # Then you suffer 630 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,639 # Superstition ain't the way 631 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,939 # Hey-hey, hey... # 632 00:38:07,940 --> 00:38:11,939 Just do your thing, son! 633 00:38:26,780 --> 00:38:31,718 But then, when the demo went back to Motown and Berry Gordy heard it, 634 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,599 he said, "This is the best thing you"ve ever written." 635 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,519 So out comes Stevie's single, and it's a smash, number one. 636 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:44,198 And it still is the biggest seller, I think of all time of his singles. 637 00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:47,899 And it worked out OK, because it was a much better version 638 00:38:47,900 --> 00:38:51,779 than the one we did, i think. We did a heavy metal version. 639 00:38:51,780 --> 00:38:53,859 I don't think he Cared for it too much. 640 00:38:53,860 --> 00:38:56,679 When i heard Stevie Wonder's version of that song, 641 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,079 that's the definitive version of that song, you know, 642 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,599 nobody should ever Cover it, just leave it alone, 643 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,559 otherwise it'lljust sound like a bar band butchering it. 644 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,039 Not so with Jeff Beck. Not so. 645 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,039 And when Beck, Bogert & Appice recorded it, 646 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,379 it stood on its own, like another entity again. And they were great. 647 00:39:15,380 --> 00:39:18,299 I mean they were just incredibly exciting to play with. 648 00:39:18,300 --> 00:39:22,039 I'd seen the Fudge threeI four times, and they blew me away. 649 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,639 It"s pretty powerful. 650 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:30,259 MUSIC: Superstition by Beck, Bogert & Appice 651 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,579 # Very superstitious 652 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,299 # Writings on the wall... # 653 00:39:39,300 --> 00:39:42,119 Unknowing that maybe Stevie had written the ultimate power 654 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,599 trio song, because the double bass drum that Carmine used was perfect. 655 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,379 Timmy"s busy bass playing, you know, with that riff. What more could...? 656 00:39:50,380 --> 00:39:54,119 They sang, as well, so we'd got two singers, bass player and a drummer. 657 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,259 Good morning! it's over. 658 00:39:57,260 --> 00:40:00,759 # ..you'll get along 659 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,779 # Going out the door! 660 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,738 # Things you don't understand 661 00:40:11,980 --> 00:40:14,479 # You suffer 662 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,899 # Hey, hey... # 663 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,759 I meanI there's a certain amount of "fuck you"-ness 664 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,559 to everything jeff does. 665 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:30,599 And I think there's a big dose of that in that song. 666 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:35,259 But, unfortunately, we couldn't match any song to that level, 667 00:40:35,260 --> 00:40:39,198 that quality. So there was never really a proper album. 668 00:40:39,199 --> 00:40:43,559 We toured, and we were knocking people out the park. it was great. 669 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,899 We played Crystal PalaCe, and there were girls swimming across this 670 00:40:47,900 --> 00:40:51,718 pond to get to the front of the stage. It was great! 671 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,379 I thought, "We"re on our way." 672 00:40:53,380 --> 00:40:56,079 And we were getting a ridiculously good response. 673 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,238 And then along Comes the mental writers" blocks. 674 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,238 We weren't writing very good songs. 675 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:07,238 They were making a second album, and itjust kind of petered out. 676 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:13,419 The managersI they had to get together and affeCt a divorce. 677 00:41:13,420 --> 00:41:16,119 The record company didn't have a whole lot to do with it. 678 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,639 We were observers, speCtators. 679 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,759 It just exploded, you know? Sadly, it did. 680 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,599 He"s not as wrapped up in being a rock star, that whole thing. 681 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,238 He can be true to his aet and still... 682 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,419 And then he leaves it there and then he goes home, 683 00:41:32,420 --> 00:41:34,939 works on his cars, lives out in the country, 684 00:41:34,940 --> 00:41:40,519 and so i think he's found a really good balance between the two. 685 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,639 I was working on the wrecked rod of a "69 accident, 686 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,119 and i had a transistor radio playing. 687 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,639 I was lying on the ground doing something to this back axle 688 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,979 or whatever, rainwater was streaming past me, 689 00:41:53,980 --> 00:41:57,198 and i thought, "'I'm in the gutter. I've ended up baCk in the gutter!" 690 00:41:57,199 --> 00:41:59,759 And it almost washed the radio away. 691 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:07,759 And it was McLaughlin playing on jack johnson, that amazing album. 692 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,459 Miles. i mean, please, it"s a wonderful thing. 693 00:42:38,460 --> 00:42:40,939 And then you hear McLaughlin going in there. 694 00:42:40,940 --> 00:42:44,639 And it was a moment where i just stopped work, went in there 695 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,459 made a Cup of tea... Continued listening. 696 00:42:48,460 --> 00:42:52,559 And that was it. ijust thought, "There's a door open now. 697 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,198 "This is what I want to do." 698 00:42:55,199 --> 00:42:57,779 It's more foCused on guitar only 699 00:42:57,780 --> 00:43:01,459 and it negates the necessity for a vocalist. 700 00:43:01,460 --> 00:43:03,859 There's no point in going round the world 701 00:43:03,860 --> 00:43:09,238 trying to find another Rod Stewart. 702 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,779 What a great line-up of musicians - 703 00:43:13,780 --> 00:43:16,519 the brilliant Max Middleton playing keyboards... 704 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,159 Richard Bailey and Phil Chenn on drums and bass. 705 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,159 ..and produced by George Martin at Air Studios! 706 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,859 GEORGE MARTIN: i came to the album title, Blow By Blow, 707 00:43:24,860 --> 00:43:28,459 because the word "blow"" means many things. 708 00:43:28,460 --> 00:43:31,859 But I was using it in the sense of a jazz thing. 709 00:43:31,860 --> 00:43:37,119 When you do an extempore bit, you are giving it a blow. 710 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,459 To look at the joy on George's face 711 00:43:39,460 --> 00:43:42,639 when he discovered that we were going to have fun... 712 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,299 jeff and I met up, and he invited me to the studio, 713 00:43:46,300 --> 00:43:49,679 and he was telling me how George was really just letting him 714 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,259 play and stretch, and he was recording all the things 715 00:43:52,260 --> 00:43:55,459 and then making the finished version. 716 00:43:55,460 --> 00:43:57,979 It was somebody who would reaily understand 717 00:43:57,980 --> 00:44:00,639 the precision of Jeff"s playing 718 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,419 and just how different and how separate it was from anybody else's. 719 00:44:04,420 --> 00:44:07,679 George Martin really understood that Jeff was a serious musician. 720 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:12,939 He wasn't a producer with a singular vision of how 721 00:44:12,940 --> 00:44:15,819 he thought it would be that he would want to impose. 722 00:44:15,820 --> 00:44:17,899 And I don"t suppose anyone would have much luck 723 00:44:17,900 --> 00:44:20,559 imposing their vision on Jeff. 724 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,979 GEORGE MARTIN: Well, jeff Could be temperamental 725 00:44:22,980 --> 00:44:24,899 but never a big problem. 726 00:44:24,900 --> 00:44:27,238 I mean if he felt frustrated 727 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,079 because he wouldn't be getting what he wanted, 728 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,639 sometimes he would get very upset, and in faCt 729 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,759 he did fling his guitar right across the studio at one point. 730 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,939 But, you know, people are temperamental. 731 00:44:38,940 --> 00:44:40,779 That's all right, they can blow off steam. 732 00:44:40,780 --> 00:44:43,299 So long as they don't throw it at me, i'm all right. 733 00:44:43,300 --> 00:44:46,599 We didn't have any problems. We got on very well. 734 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,419 He loves exploring the guitar, and when he does hear 735 00:44:50,420 --> 00:44:55,759 something that catches his ear or gives him a new idea, 736 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,259 he gets deeply into it. 737 00:44:57,260 --> 00:45:00,519 John McLaughlin was kicking my butt at the time. 738 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,939 The Mahavishnu Orchestra, that played a big paet. 739 00:45:03,940 --> 00:45:07,119 jeff's always said the Mahavishnu Orchestra is like his one - 740 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,759 he still holds it as like a Holy Grail. 741 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,819 "This is what inspired me to staet pushing things to the next level." 742 00:45:13,820 --> 00:45:18,259 One tune that has some of that Mahavishnu feei is Scatterbrain. 743 00:45:18,260 --> 00:45:21,159 It staeted as a schizophrenic run that i did 744 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,819 when i was nervous in a dressing room. 745 00:45:23,820 --> 00:45:27,119 Two seconds before going on, I went... 746 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,939 And Max being the calculating SOB that he is, he said, 747 00:45:30,940 --> 00:45:34,599 "You know that annoying scale you play? 748 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,379 "I've written some chords underneath it." 749 00:45:37,380 --> 00:45:39,779 He said, "If you move it up a semitone, 750 00:45:39,780 --> 00:45:41,599 "I Can make a track out of it." 751 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:47,718 And before we knew it we had this song. 752 00:45:49,780 --> 00:45:57,779 Yeah, it's... That's a really... It's a Chop buster, that song. 753 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,899 He really was getting away from the straight rock stuff that he 754 00:46:17,900 --> 00:46:20,979 was doing, and he wanted to open it up to a more melodic 755 00:46:20,980 --> 00:46:24,559 and a little softer and jazzier angle. 756 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:30,039 George loved it and staeted putting the string arrangements to it, 757 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:34,119 just bare-bones creativity on the spot. 758 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,738 STUDiO VERSION OF TRACK PLAYS 759 00:46:46,820 --> 00:46:50,159 When i suggested to him that we use an orchestra with it, 760 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,119 he was a little bit taken aback, i think. 761 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,159 And, for me, it was a fairly risky thing, 762 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,899 because Jeff had never done this before, 763 00:46:58,900 --> 00:47:03,039 and i wondered whether the audience would accept the fact that 764 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,039 Jeff Beck was working with a string sound. 765 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,299 George was open to anything 766 00:47:08,300 --> 00:47:11,859 and the most encouraging and most kindest person. 767 00:47:11,860 --> 00:47:13,559 And, boy, did he get a great sound. 768 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:18,559 Cause We've Ended As Lovers is the standout track of ali time, for me. 769 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:24,559 I mean I just think that is jeff at his most beautiful, lyrical. 770 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:29,859 It's a Stevie Wonder song, of course, which must be pointed out. 771 00:47:29,860 --> 00:47:32,339 When i heard that album, I just thought, "Oh, wow." 772 00:47:32,340 --> 00:47:35,198 Her voice was like a Crystal stream flowing. 773 00:47:35,199 --> 00:47:37,779 And I staeted playing Cause We Ended As Lovers, 774 00:47:37,780 --> 00:47:40,459 playing the melody that Syreeta sang. 775 00:47:40,460 --> 00:47:43,079 Max Middleton said, "That's beautiful. What is it?" 776 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,939 And I played him the Syreeta version. 777 00:47:44,940 --> 00:47:52,439 He went, "Why don't we do that as an instrumental?" 778 00:48:03,860 --> 00:48:06,159 GEORGE MARTIN: jeff's an amazing person, 779 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,559 because he Can get the most incredible sounds 780 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,259 out of an electric guitar. 781 00:48:11,260 --> 00:48:14,119 Even after he's flung it across the studio, 782 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:18,519 he will still pick it up, wiggle it a bit and make great sounds. 783 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:23,939 And he uses the guitar as his voice. He sings with his guitar. 784 00:48:23,940 --> 00:48:31,319 And I don't know any other guitar player like him. 785 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,899 Blow By Blow was an instantaneous success upon release. 786 00:48:50,900 --> 00:48:54,339 I mean it really took off like a rocket. it shot up the Charts. 787 00:48:54,340 --> 00:48:57,599 It turns out that lots of jeff Beck fans out there were just 788 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:02,979 waiting for an album in which they Could hear him play maximum guitar. 789 00:49:02,980 --> 00:49:06,559 Max and George the two of them just were like two peas in a pod 790 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,679 because of their musicianship, the keyboard. 791 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,259 Max would come up with these twisted Chords. 792 00:49:11,260 --> 00:49:15,419 Pork Pie Hat, you know, with the Charlie Mingus stuff. 793 00:49:15,420 --> 00:49:19,299 Goodbye Pork Pie Hat, written by Charles Mingus, is an ode, 794 00:49:19,300 --> 00:49:22,819 really, to the great sax player Lester Young. 795 00:49:22,820 --> 00:49:25,899 It really stands out as being something very special 796 00:49:25,900 --> 00:49:29,639 and different, something unexpected from jeff. 797 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:33,599 And after we finished, there was dead silence. I went, "Oh." 798 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,039 And George went... You could hear the button go. 799 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:42,159 He said, "jeff, that was very tasteful." 800 00:50:39,900 --> 00:50:42,539 ALBUM VERSiON 801 00:50:59,240 --> 00:51:02,719 To this day, i tell people, "Boy, if you want to learn guitar, 802 00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:04,819 "there's all the scales and arpeggios and all this, 803 00:51:04,820 --> 00:51:06,299 "but you need to learn two solos, 804 00:51:06,300 --> 00:51:09,979 "and they're both relatively easy to learn, beCause they"re slow - 805 00:51:09,980 --> 00:51:13,939 "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat on Wired and Cause We Ended As Lovers." 806 00:51:13,940 --> 00:51:17,199 Cos that's... that's where the feel is! 807 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,319 TRACK CONTIN U ES 808 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,239 I got a letter from Charlie Mingus, and it said, 809 00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:43,199 "Dear Jeff, i was so knocked out with your version of Pork Pie Hat." 810 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,559 And that's when we had the world at our feet you know? 811 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,079 We could do anything we wanted. 812 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:52,459 Jeff is like a roCk and roll musician who understands jazz. 813 00:51:52,460 --> 00:51:55,599 So, that's a very rare animal. 814 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,039 We went to see Mahavishnu OrChestra in Zurich. 815 00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,979 And we were playing in the same week, 816 00:51:59,980 --> 00:52:03,419 so we ended up being at a paety in the same hotel. 817 00:52:03,420 --> 00:52:05,679 We had the greatest time, you know? 818 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,299 I got to know the Mahavishnu Orchestra - McLaughIin, 819 00:52:08,300 --> 00:52:13,159 Jan Hammer, BilIy Cobham, Jerry Goodman - and it was just amazing. 820 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,639 And I ended up, you know, really, really getting a great contaCt 821 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,899 and talking, because we really had very much in common. 822 00:52:19,900 --> 00:52:24,559 And Jan knew me. He said, "Course I know you! Out of the Yardbirds. 823 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,259 "I know all the stuff." 824 00:52:26,260 --> 00:52:28,779 So this was the great bonding session that took place. 825 00:52:28,780 --> 00:52:32,719 This was before Wired. He was pretty much finished, i think. 826 00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:37,559 He had some rough mixes. The album was virtually done but not finished. 827 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:43,039 George Martin had to leave. He was committed to do an album by America. 828 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,399 George left without 829 00:52:46,460 --> 00:52:50,459 the finishing touches being applied to the album. 830 00:52:50,460 --> 00:52:54,299 There were still some overdubs, Certainly some mixing. 831 00:52:54,300 --> 00:52:56,819 So i had to say goodbye to George. 832 00:52:56,820 --> 00:52:59,599 jan was interested, in that I would fly over there 833 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,639 and watch this magician do his stuff on this record. 834 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,459 And I just did quick mixes of this, 835 00:53:04,460 --> 00:53:08,519 and basically all those mixes ended up being the masters for the album! 836 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,199 So more than half of the album was mixed here. 837 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:16,039 And then also we did one tune from scratch, which was called Blue Wind. 838 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,199 And he said, "Play this riff." 839 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,379 The two notes. HE HUMS THE MELODY 840 00:53:22,380 --> 00:53:27,979 I said, "Oh, come on, Jan. This kiddie stuff." He went, "'Trust me." 841 00:53:27,980 --> 00:53:32,479 And I didn't like it at all. 842 00:53:36,300 --> 00:53:39,779 It was a very simple riff and a combination of things, 843 00:53:39,780 --> 00:53:45,339 and by the time i added drums to it and my keyboard synthesisers... 844 00:53:45,340 --> 00:53:48,719 And he got these Auratones and stuck them on his mantelpiece 845 00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:51,419 and cranked it, and the speakers were shaking! 846 00:53:51,420 --> 00:53:55,799 I went, "OK. i get it now!" 847 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,719 It gave a great platform for solos. 848 00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:18,819 And it was all about, you know, embellishing 849 00:54:18,820 --> 00:54:26,199 and showing off and taking flight with your solos. 850 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,559 It just turned out to be a great, great tune that soet of 851 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:57,419 has been living on decades now! 852 00:55:06,300 --> 00:55:08,519 It was incredible to play with Jan Hammer 853 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,339 with jeff Beck at the Hollywood Bowl. 854 00:55:10,340 --> 00:55:13,199 Jeff had always talked about Jan before. 855 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,979 Jeff loves Jan. And vice versa. They have a great relationship. 856 00:55:16,980 --> 00:55:19,039 I'm sitting there and i'm looking at both of them 857 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,119 and watching them interaCting. 858 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:25,419 You can see the years of friendship and mutual respect 859 00:55:25,420 --> 00:55:32,179 and adoration that they have for one another. 860 00:55:46,420 --> 00:55:48,419 Star Cycle was interesting, because, again, 861 00:55:48,420 --> 00:55:52,199 what I did was I recorded the whole track here... 862 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:56,419 ..in the old studio, again with the sequencer, and I played drums. 863 00:55:56,420 --> 00:56:02,199 And then i took the tape to Ramport, the Who's studio, in London, 864 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:08,939 and we added all the lead parts on top of it. 865 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,379 That song has a very paeticular melody. 866 00:56:13,380 --> 00:56:18,299 And, again, the whole thing is about the trade-off between Jan and Jeff. 867 00:56:18,300 --> 00:56:22,119 How their minds work together is incredible. 868 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:23,859 They can really bounce off of each other, 869 00:56:23,860 --> 00:56:29,619 and it's just... It"s like fireworks. 870 00:56:50,380 --> 00:56:53,639 He"s just inspired, you know, by whatever the dynamic is 871 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,599 that's on the stage. That's what he"s looking for. 872 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,639 He's looking for inspiration, you know, 873 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:04,519 a reason to strike that string and pull, make that next sound. 874 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,339 That's the reason I love playing with him, 875 00:57:06,340 --> 00:57:09,079 because it's going to be so fresh and he's going to pull 876 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,859 something out of his sleeve that you say, ""How did you do that?" 877 00:57:11,860 --> 00:57:13,759 You think that guitar is so limited, 878 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,819 and people sometimes even demonstrate how limited guitar 879 00:57:16,820 --> 00:57:20,779 is by playing basiCally a couple of riffs and that"s the whole career. 880 00:57:20,780 --> 00:57:24,259 jeff is opening it up to so many, 881 00:57:24,260 --> 00:57:30,159 many areas that it's really hard to keep up. 882 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:36,259 I came back to Epic in 1 980, after the There And Back album during 883 00:57:36,260 --> 00:57:42,339 which time I failed to convince jeff to do even one aIbum for EpiC. 884 00:57:42,340 --> 00:57:45,859 Years had gone by, and i didn't want to go along with that, 885 00:57:45,860 --> 00:57:49,239 the "80s push-button music and all that. 886 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,819 I certainly visited jeff at his home. 887 00:57:51,820 --> 00:57:55,819 He was a most gracious host, showed me his cars in the garage, 888 00:57:55,820 --> 00:57:58,299 which he was spending a signifiCant 889 00:57:58,300 --> 00:58:01,419 amount of his time working on, very happily. 890 00:58:01,420 --> 00:58:05,759 There was no place for me, so I just buried myseif in my workshop. 891 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,259 And it got to the point 892 00:58:07,260 --> 00:58:10,519 where I think they forgot I was even on the Epic label! 893 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,819 And I ended up driving to different sessions. 894 00:58:13,820 --> 00:58:19,339 Any aetist would be thrilled to have Jeff contribute to their work, 895 00:58:19,340 --> 00:58:24,979 so the fact that over the years he"s guested on albums from suCh 896 00:58:24,980 --> 00:58:30,419 a diverse array of acts, from Stevie Wonder to Stanley Clarke to 897 00:58:30,420 --> 00:58:35,599 Diana Ross to Mick Jagger to Tina Turner, on and on and on... 898 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,259 And I loved guesting with them. I loved every minute of that. 899 00:58:39,260 --> 00:58:42,519 He has kinda guided his career the way he wanted, 900 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,039 and there's something to be said for taking time off 901 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,459 and regrouping rather than having a record company 902 00:58:49,460 --> 00:58:52,679 breathing down your neck for a new record every year. 903 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,819 Epic Records thought it would be a great idea to get an aetist 904 00:58:55,820 --> 00:59:00,599 to drop me a broad hint by painting this surreai garage with 905 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,819 a guitar up on the ramp instead of a car. 906 00:59:03,820 --> 00:59:06,339 I loved it. i love that cover. 907 00:59:06,340 --> 00:59:10,379 It was me. i mean, that was it. They Couldn't have hit it... Bull's-eye. 908 00:59:10,380 --> 00:59:12,419 You know? That was me! 909 00:59:12,420 --> 00:59:16,819 Without a doubt, Guitar Shop, I think was a real return to form. 910 00:59:16,820 --> 00:59:19,079 And that was their job, you know? 911 00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,899 I put my back into the album with Tony Hymas and Terry Bozzio. 912 00:59:22,900 --> 00:59:25,459 The results were really ground-breaking, in a way, 913 00:59:25,460 --> 00:59:28,719 for a three-piece to put out so much power. 914 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:32,199 You know, it was a power trio with keyboards instead of bass. 915 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:36,239 His approach is super, super rhythmic, so in order for that 916 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:41,779 to work you have to have a back line that gets it. 917 00:59:41,780 --> 00:59:44,819 I think Terry Bozzio had a lot to do with that. 918 00:59:44,820 --> 00:59:48,339 He"s worked with amazingly great drummers, you know? 919 00:59:48,340 --> 00:59:54,979 So, I mean, I've stood in some tall company. 920 01:00:11,420 --> 01:00:14,939 When you hear the song, it lives up to its name of Big Block, 921 01:00:14,940 --> 01:00:22,939 which obviously refers to a large-size engine in an automobile. 922 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,519 His playing is amazing. That Big Block riff is fucking awesome! 923 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:34,519 The heavy kind of sexy riff in the middle, that was all my stuff. 924 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:07,199 Big Block, it's great. What a classic. What a classiC. 925 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,119 Powerhouse tune. 926 01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:14,559 That"s a pure example, I think of a lot of power 927 01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:16,719 and energy that's in Jeff's show. 928 01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:20,419 It"s full of aggression and spirit. 929 01:01:20,420 --> 01:01:26,419 It"s got a nasty, nasty oveetone to it. 930 01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,599 There's this underlying reoccurring riff that"s happening 931 01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:02,979 the whole time the main riff on the bass that"s low enough to 932 01:02:02,980 --> 01:02:06,159 give space for the guitar to do absolutely anything. 933 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:07,819 So he just goes mental! 934 01:02:07,820 --> 01:02:15,819 The sounds he gets out of that instrument still shocks me. 935 01:02:39,260 --> 01:02:40,459 It"s so definite, 936 01:02:40,460 --> 01:02:43,239 and he so definitely sounds like he knows where he's going 937 01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:47,759 and exactly what he wants to do, and he's going to execute it perfeCtly. 938 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,199 It's always got melody, 939 01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:57,679 but it's also got great attaCk and sort of aggressive fire to it. 940 01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:58,779 Brilliant. 941 01:02:58,780 --> 01:03:01,919 TRACK CONTIN U ES 942 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:08,039 Jeff not using a piCk, I learned a lot from that. 943 01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,899 So i actually alternate between using a pick and not using a pick, 944 01:03:10,900 --> 01:03:13,419 because you're just that much more connected 945 01:03:13,420 --> 01:03:17,679 and there's an emotional thing that happens when you do it that way 946 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:23,079 that sings and soars above and beyond using a guitar pick. 947 01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,819 The early days in the Yardbirds, he was still playing with a pick, 948 01:03:25,820 --> 01:03:29,199 but then he developed playing without a pick. 949 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:34,339 And then he soet of concentrated more on the Stratocaster, 950 01:03:34,340 --> 01:03:37,259 and he had the guitar 951 01:03:37,260 --> 01:03:41,899 so fine-tuned to every nuance 952 01:03:42,300 --> 01:03:46,159 and the tonality of it, the tension of it, that he 953 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:52,519 developed a style that was totally unique. 954 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:57,959 And that"s pretty magical. 955 01:04:04,900 --> 01:04:08,419 Where Were You basically is impossible. 956 01:04:08,420 --> 01:04:11,379 It's just an impossible tune! 957 01:04:11,380 --> 01:04:17,239 That song, where he plays the melody with harmonics, he's got such 958 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:23,299 a sensitive ear to know exactly when things are in pitch. 959 01:04:23,300 --> 01:04:25,379 The way he has his Strat set up 960 01:04:25,380 --> 01:04:28,779 for whammy-bar stuff is quite extraordinary. 961 01:04:28,780 --> 01:04:33,599 He"s playing whole melodies on harmoniCs 962 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:37,079 which are pulled through two or three tones 963 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:41,819 in perfect pitch all the time. 964 01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:51,239 And believe me, i've tried it. It's... He makes it sound easy. 965 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,719 He was invited to come along and play it at a memorial 966 01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:19,639 service for Richard Wright after he died. I mean, Rick loved that track. 967 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,419 Rick often said that he was his favourite guitar player, 968 01:05:22,420 --> 01:05:24,979 much to my chagrin. He came and played it live, 969 01:05:24,980 --> 01:05:29,299 and it was just like the record and perfect. 970 01:05:29,300 --> 01:05:33,639 just to know that that piece, which I wrote reached people, 971 01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:37,459 that was very satisfying. 972 01:05:37,460 --> 01:05:39,819 And Elton told me that he 973 01:05:39,820 --> 01:05:42,759 and Freddie Mercury used to sit and listen to it. 974 01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:46,199 I went, "Oh, right!" HE LAUGHS 975 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:51,379 It"s amazing, isn't it, that some idea ends up on a record 976 01:05:51,380 --> 01:05:55,679 and then people's lives are affeCted in some way? 977 01:05:55,680 --> 01:06:00,119 Jeff's always tried to, you know, challenge what 978 01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,939 the stereotype of guitar playing is or the stereotype of music or just 979 01:06:03,940 --> 01:06:08,239 find new ways of, you know, 980 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,719 expressing his take on what's happening on music right now, 981 01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:15,039 whether it's collaborating with different people or finding 982 01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:16,519 new sounds. 983 01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,779 He's always got something in his mind that he wants to do and change. 984 01:06:19,780 --> 01:06:21,519 He will listen to EVERYTHiNG! 985 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:25,519 I mean he will intake anything from Ornette Coleman to the Spice Girls 986 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:31,979 and anything in-between and is able to filter it into something usabIe. 987 01:06:31,980 --> 01:06:38,559 Me and Jennifer got on quite well doing this crazy stuff. 988 01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:42,759 I"ve always got a big sound system in the car, and Nadia started up. 989 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:57,399 # Nadia, bair bhai 990 01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,079 # Nadia... # 991 01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,299 This is the most amazing thing I"ve ever heard. 992 01:07:03,300 --> 01:07:06,939 And I played it again and again on the way to the studio. 993 01:07:06,940 --> 01:07:11,079 And I said, ""Listen to this. I'm going to mimiC that singer."" 994 01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,639 And, man, it was the most difficult thing I"ve ever done. 995 01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,979 Those indian singers, they twist and turn, 996 01:07:16,980 --> 01:07:20,599 and it's almost like beyond belief what they can do, 997 01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:28,599 leaping from note to note and the scales that they sing. 998 01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:49,559 The Indian vocals are very hard to emulate. 999 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:53,719 There are such subtle nuances and little tiny bends. 1000 01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:58,419 I actually made him loops of eaCh little Chunk of melody 1001 01:07:58,420 --> 01:08:01,079 and looped it maybe ten or fifteen times so he could 1002 01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:05,119 focus on just that, which I don't think he ever did before, 1003 01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,979 to break it down so sCientifically like that. 1004 01:08:07,980 --> 01:08:11,719 But, of course, he's going to make it his own. 1005 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:16,099 It's a perfect example of expanding the instrument beyond anybody's 1006 01:08:16,100 --> 01:08:19,099 imagination, you know, that it took his hands 1007 01:08:19,100 --> 01:08:22,219 and his brain to be able to take it that far. 1008 01:08:22,220 --> 01:08:27,139 When i talk to other guitar players about him, there's no question. 1009 01:08:27,140 --> 01:08:32,859 I mean there's everybody else and then there's Jeff BeCk. 1010 01:08:32,860 --> 01:08:35,319 I don't even know how he's doing it half the time. 1011 01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:41,139 He's combining the tremolo arm with bending and with volume. 1012 01:08:41,140 --> 01:08:44,359 There's so much going on between his left hand and his right hand 1013 01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:49,519 and what the right hand is doing, all the independence that it has. 1014 01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:54,639 It's all about making that voice. 1015 01:09:27,820 --> 01:09:30,059 Playing five nights at Ronnie SCott's, I think 1016 01:09:30,060 --> 01:09:32,819 jeff always wanted to play at Ronnie's, you know? 1017 01:09:32,820 --> 01:09:35,099 The faCt that we pulled that off was pretty amazing, 1018 01:09:35,100 --> 01:09:37,059 because it's just a little jazz club. 1019 01:09:37,060 --> 01:09:39,559 Everybody's been there - you know, Rollins... 1020 01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:44,219 I saw Art Blakey there, i saw Elvin Jones. These people belong in there. 1021 01:09:44,220 --> 01:09:46,759 And there's Jeff Beck up there. No, no, no. 1022 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,279 How wrong was I? Amazing. 1023 01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,279 CHEERiNG AND APPLAUSE I can't believe this. 1024 01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:52,719 You know, you people. 1025 01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,898 But on top of this, i'd like to welcome to the stage somebody 1026 01:09:55,899 --> 01:09:58,438 who knows their way around a Stratocaster. 1027 01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:04,099 It was an honour, you know, I mean, to get up with him in that venue. 1028 01:10:04,100 --> 01:10:09,519 And the fact that he asked me to play, i mean, tremendously 1029 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:14,759 touching that he would want me to get up and play with him, you know? 1030 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,639 Mr Eric Clapton is here tonight. 1031 01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,359 LOUD CHEERING 1032 01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:22,898 I may as well fuck off home, then! 1033 01:10:22,899 --> 01:10:26,139 They were trying to figure out what to play, and Clapton said, 1034 01:10:26,140 --> 01:10:28,319 "Well, why don't we play You Need Love?"" 1035 01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:33,559 # Baby, you look so sweet and kind 1036 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:37,619 # Baby, way down inside 1037 01:10:37,780 --> 01:10:40,478 # Baby, you need love 1038 01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,279 # Oh, you need love... # 1039 01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,978 We had basically all of Led Zeppelin there, 1040 01:10:44,979 --> 01:10:49,519 all the surviving members, and it was funny playing You Need Love, 1041 01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,639 because it was where they got Whole Lotta Love from. 1042 01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,139 That was their influence for writing that song. 1043 01:10:55,140 --> 01:10:58,599 jeff and I, we go back to really early teens. 1044 01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,938 And let me tell you, that was a long while ago. 1045 01:11:00,939 --> 01:11:02,599 HE LAUGHS 1046 01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,679 But we must have been about 1 3, 1 4, when we first met, 1047 01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:09,398 and we stayed friends all the way through... 1048 01:11:09,399 --> 01:11:11,599 That was a surprise, the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, 1049 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:15,319 to have jimmy go up there and call me up to present me with the award. 1050 01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:19,139 I was really flattered. And what he said really brought me to tears. 1051 01:11:19,140 --> 01:11:21,639 You'd soet of listen to Jeff along the way, and you'd go, 1052 01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,599 "Wow, it's getting really, really good, jeff." 1053 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,519 And you'd hear him a few years later, 1054 01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,679 and he'd just keep getting better and better and better, 1055 01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:32,398 and he still has, all the way through. 1056 01:11:32,399 --> 01:11:35,599 And he Ieaves us mere moetals, believe me, you know, 1057 01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:39,099 just wondering and having so much respect for him. 1058 01:11:39,100 --> 01:11:42,719 And I tell you, i'm really honoured to be here to induct 1059 01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:44,898 Jeff into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, 1060 01:11:44,899 --> 01:11:47,599 because he's done so much for rock and roll and he always will. 1061 01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:52,759 The plan was at sound check that we play Beck's Bolero. 1062 01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,759 And I thought, "Oh, yeah, OK, I'll bring over the original guitar that 1063 01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:59,639 "I played it on," whiCh is a Fender 12-string, eleCtric 12-string. 1064 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,679 And so I took it over there, and we had a rehearsal. 1065 01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:06,679 Somehow, I think me and Tal called up Jeff. 1066 01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,599 And I said, "Y'know, it"s really a shame 1067 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,779 "that we're not playing a Zeppelin song. 1068 01:12:12,780 --> 01:12:15,279 "I mean, we're going to play with Jimmy Page." 1069 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:20,819 And I got a phone call just before we were due to go, and he said, 1070 01:12:20,820 --> 01:12:23,319 "I've been having a chat with the band, 1071 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,759 "and they thought it might be a good idea 1072 01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:32,099 "if we, instead of just doing Bolero, if we did Immigrant Song." 1073 01:12:32,100 --> 01:12:35,779 And I said, "Oh, yeah? Well, this is really going to be interesting, 1074 01:12:35,780 --> 01:12:37,859 "because we haven't had a rehearsal." 1075 01:12:37,860 --> 01:12:41,739 Right here, Jimmy Page! 1076 01:12:42,860 --> 01:12:45,519 The tech behind the stage apparently were freaking out. 1077 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,398 The sound guys, the light... Nobody knows what"s going on. 1078 01:12:48,399 --> 01:12:53,139 But the audience went berserk! 1079 01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,398 I mean he was just soloing over it, 1080 01:13:15,399 --> 01:13:18,359 and he'd throw the vocal lead in just to show, you know, 1081 01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,978 just to show everybody just how on top of it he was. 1082 01:13:20,979 --> 01:13:28,978 I still get goose bumps when i think about that right now. 1083 01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:33,019 The band are having great fun doing this riff, 1084 01:13:33,020 --> 01:13:41,019 and then we segue through into Bolero, and it"s absolutely amazing! 1085 01:13:44,140 --> 01:13:47,219 These people that came out of that same year with the same 1086 01:13:47,220 --> 01:13:51,519 influences, and look at the voices that emerged. 1087 01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:54,559 Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck. 1088 01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,359 And then there was Clapton and Hendrix. 1089 01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,679 I mean these guys all took that same raw material 1090 01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:04,599 and did that - just distinct, different branches. 1091 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,139 Every time I think of it, it's mind-numbing, 1092 01:14:07,140 --> 01:14:12,559 and Jeff really is just totally a voiCe like no other. 1093 01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,978 I love his big, vast swing, you know? He'll go from something 1094 01:14:15,979 --> 01:14:18,559 so rocking and so aggressive 1095 01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:22,179 down to something so tender and so sweet and everything in-between, 1096 01:14:22,180 --> 01:14:25,398 and it really is a perfect mirror on all the emotions 1097 01:14:25,399 --> 01:14:27,938 of being a human being and being alive. 1098 01:14:27,939 --> 01:14:35,079 It just kinda covers the gamut of human emotion. 1099 01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:52,279 You can recognise Gilmour and Hendrix the same way you 1100 01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,859 Could recognise jeff within a phrase, a note. 1101 01:14:55,860 --> 01:14:58,679 They wouldn't be icons of guitar playing 1102 01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,319 if they didn"t have their stamp. 1103 01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,859 And that's what I think, every aspiring guitarist, 1104 01:15:03,860 --> 01:15:06,359 including myself, wants to achieve one day. 1105 01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:07,898 So i think they're all unique, 1106 01:15:07,899 --> 01:15:14,279 but jeff's is a little bit more out there. 1107 01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:25,319 He was doing his set, and then I had to go on after Nessun Dorma! 1108 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:29,359 It was like, "You must be kidding, man! This is it. 1109 01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:36,219 "This is a show stopper. I can't follow that." 1110 01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:43,639 There's not too many musicians who can do that. 1111 01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:45,359 That's a vocal tune for a reason. 1112 01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:50,359 It's really about just his soet of two hands and a piece of wood 1113 01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:52,319 and with the things that he"s able to do with it, 1114 01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:57,319 but he does it with a lot of emotion and a lot of soul and expression. 1115 01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:00,478 All those years ago, you had a band that featured 1116 01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:02,519 Rod Stewaet as your voCalist. 1117 01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:06,059 It"s always seemed somewhat self-defeating to me 1118 01:16:06,060 --> 01:16:12,139 to attempt to replace Rod with another male vocalist. 1119 01:16:12,140 --> 01:16:16,859 Jeff has a really cool knaCk for piCking female singers 1120 01:16:16,860 --> 01:16:21,219 with his Choices like imelda May, Joss Stone and Beth Hart. 1121 01:16:21,220 --> 01:16:25,519 There's a perfect example of three absolutely amazing females 1122 01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:29,019 that go with his style 1123 01:16:29,020 --> 01:16:32,059 and the type of energy that he wants to portray and 1124 01:16:32,060 --> 01:16:34,819 the type of energy that he wants his band to poetray at that 1125 01:16:34,820 --> 01:16:37,478 paeticular time, the type of fire that he wants to have. 1126 01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,819 # Something told me 1127 01:16:40,820 --> 01:16:44,019 # That it was over 1128 01:16:44,020 --> 01:16:47,159 # Baby, yeah... # 1129 01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,599 I had an opportunity to go write with Jeff. 1130 01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,779 We wrote a couple of beautiful songs together. 1131 01:16:52,780 --> 01:16:54,219 And I thought that was it. 1132 01:16:54,220 --> 01:16:57,398 And then he called me and asked me if I would be his singer. 1133 01:16:57,399 --> 01:17:00,779 That was incredible. I didn't get to sing a lot of songs, 1134 01:17:00,780 --> 01:17:04,478 but i did get to sit on the side of the stage and watCh him play 1135 01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:08,059 and understand why he's the most innovative guitarist of ali time. 1136 01:17:08,060 --> 01:17:11,599 # ..in my soul said, ""Gone"... # 1137 01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,779 Jeff really appreciates singers. 1138 01:17:14,780 --> 01:17:17,599 You know, he's always listening to singers 1139 01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,478 and the way that they articulate. 1140 01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,179 Beth Hart is somebody I"ve actually worked with before, 1141 01:17:23,180 --> 01:17:27,099 and she's great, and she's very soulful. 1142 01:17:27,100 --> 01:17:30,898 As a singer, he knows what is the kind of song that wili best 1143 01:17:30,899 --> 01:17:35,478 be for you. And he turned me on to that song, and i loved it. 1144 01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:38,719 # I'd rather, baby 1145 01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,599 # Be blind 1146 01:17:42,180 --> 01:17:43,938 # Yeah 1147 01:17:47,100 --> 01:17:49,639 # Than to see you 1148 01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,898 # Walk away, walk away from me 1149 01:17:52,899 --> 01:17:54,779 # Baby, don't leave me... # 1150 01:17:54,780 --> 01:18:00,438 Here he is, 50 years later, after his girlfriend takes him 1151 01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,139 out on that stage and he looks out and he says, ""God, I want 1152 01:18:03,140 --> 01:18:09,099 "to play here so bad," and 50 years later, he plays there, sold out. 1153 01:18:09,100 --> 01:18:12,139 Gorgeous. Kills it. It's just wonderful. 1154 01:18:12,140 --> 01:18:18,139 MUSIC: The Revolution Will Be Televised 1155 01:18:20,939 --> 01:18:24,019 One of my favourite records that he's done is Loud Hailer, 1156 01:18:24,020 --> 01:18:26,519 and that"s... 1157 01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:29,978 I mean it"s incredibly modern, 1158 01:18:29,979 --> 01:18:34,779 and having a singer like that to work off of, he"s chosen well. 1159 01:18:34,780 --> 01:18:38,438 # The revolution will be televised 1160 01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:40,599 # You can watch it in HD 1161 01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:44,898 # You can talk like a weekend warrior 1162 01:18:44,899 --> 01:18:48,398 # From the safety of your settee... # 1163 01:18:48,399 --> 01:18:51,059 There's a lot of pressure opening jeff's show. 1164 01:18:51,060 --> 01:18:53,559 This is, like, The 50 Years Of Jeff Beck. 1165 01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:55,759 Rosie stomping around the Hollywood Bowl, 1166 01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:58,859 and all these top-of-the-heap kind of rich guys down the front... 1167 01:18:58,860 --> 01:19:00,519 ..not knowing what's going on. 1168 01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:04,279 He always decides to do something which no-one would expect him 1169 01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,599 to do - working with us, this unknown band from Camden. 1170 01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,639 Jeff's always suppoeted young aetists and especially women. 1171 01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:14,059 He"s had a history of having really great female musicians with him - 1172 01:19:14,060 --> 01:19:18,099 female singers, guitar players, bass players. 1173 01:19:18,100 --> 01:19:22,019 And not only the point of just the criteria of someone being 1174 01:19:22,020 --> 01:19:25,438 a female, but somebody being female and very talented 1175 01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:29,059 and that get along great with him - and his wife. 1176 01:19:29,060 --> 01:19:30,679 What time do you call this? SHE LAUGHS 1177 01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,478 I met Jeff at Roger Taylor's birthday party. 1178 01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:35,898 It was a friendly encounter, because it was like Roger said, 1179 01:19:35,899 --> 01:19:37,398 "Here, come and meet Jeff." 1180 01:19:37,399 --> 01:19:39,938 And then i turned around and realised who i was talking to, and I 1181 01:19:39,939 --> 01:19:43,898 think the first thing I said to him was, "Oh, fuck, you're jeff Beck." 1182 01:19:43,899 --> 01:19:48,478 I've installed the engine in your absence, so that bit"s now done. 1183 01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,938 "Who do you like?" She said, "Oh, Albeet Collins." Ding! 1184 01:19:51,939 --> 01:19:55,719 Light went on, and I thought, "That's unusual, 1185 01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:59,139 "to have a female young guitarist that likes Albert Collins."" 1186 01:19:59,140 --> 01:20:02,519 So then she said, "Well, if you want to see me play, my band, 1187 01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:06,938 "I'm playing in this pub." So we go up there. Totally blown away. 1188 01:20:06,939 --> 01:20:11,599 He's always trying something new. The most recent album Loud Hailer, 1189 01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:14,719 is not like any album he"s done before. 1190 01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:18,019 He's collaborating with people who are, like himself, 1191 01:20:18,020 --> 01:20:21,938 venturing forward into new musical territory. 1192 01:20:21,939 --> 01:20:24,779 That'li keep you young. The whole point is that Jeff's 1193 01:20:24,780 --> 01:20:27,898 still, at his age, trying to pioneer things and do things differently, 1194 01:20:27,899 --> 01:20:30,898 not just playing the same stuff that he always plays. 1195 01:20:30,899 --> 01:20:34,019 He"s pushing it a bit, getting excited about new people 1196 01:20:34,020 --> 01:20:35,938 and making new music. 1197 01:20:35,939 --> 01:20:38,279 Looking back on it, it feels like fairy land. 1198 01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:41,438 "How the hell did that happen?" Just sitting around a fireplace, 1199 01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:44,719 drinking Prosecco and writing music with a legend. 1200 01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,599 There was a lot of chatting about things that were interesting him 1201 01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:49,139 in the world, and then after that 1202 01:20:49,140 --> 01:20:51,759 everything kind of Came quite easily. 1203 01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,779 It was done under this roof, and it was a beautiful, 1204 01:20:54,780 --> 01:20:58,779 very natural experience. 1205 01:21:11,140 --> 01:21:15,279 # Billy skipped school again Looking like a fool again 1206 01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:22,359 # What a little waste For a taste of a big boy's life 1207 01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:26,779 # I'm scared for the children... # 1208 01:21:26,780 --> 01:21:29,359 That was Carmen"s Chord sequence, i think, 1209 01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:32,059 and then I came up with the little fills and stuff. 1210 01:21:32,060 --> 01:21:36,279 I wasn't expecting that, the depth of that song. 1211 01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:39,938 I love the sentiment behind Scared For The Children. 1212 01:21:39,939 --> 01:21:43,779 It's something that we all felt quite close to. 1213 01:21:43,780 --> 01:21:50,419 # This is the end of the age of the innocent 1214 01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:56,959 # One more game before they go... # 1215 01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:02,819 I play the least amount of notes that actually mean 1216 01:22:02,820 --> 01:22:04,219 something, I suppose. 1217 01:22:04,220 --> 01:22:06,639 If there was any game plan, that would be it, really. 1218 01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:08,719 I mean the chords are so niCe. 1219 01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:16,459 Just to sit on the chord and do it, that"s what i do. 1220 01:22:27,180 --> 01:22:29,759 jeff's solo on Scared For The Children, 1221 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:34,639 suave at first and then explodes in the second half, 1222 01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:38,359 that hint of Jimi Hendrix kind of, like, quote. 1223 01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:42,279 The best time is on a really nice-sounding stage, live. 1224 01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:46,519 You can really pour it on. 1225 01:23:28,140 --> 01:23:29,898 Jeff is probably one of the most 1226 01:23:29,899 --> 01:23:32,398 influential guitar players alive today. 1227 01:23:32,399 --> 01:23:36,859 And whenever i get to play with him, it"s an experience that affects 1228 01:23:36,860 --> 01:23:41,779 my drumming and my musicianship. He makes me play better. 1229 01:23:41,780 --> 01:23:44,519 Every time I see him, his averages are so high, 1230 01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:48,898 but every performance is one place where he just transcends it 1231 01:23:48,899 --> 01:23:52,859 and i go, "Oh. OK. You know? 1232 01:23:52,860 --> 01:23:57,099 "Better go home and pick that guitar up again." 1233 01:23:57,100 --> 01:23:59,599 He's just naturally interested in making music, 1234 01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,759 and he has enough faith in his music to know that all that 1235 01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,819 stuff about the business just doesn't matter. 1236 01:24:04,820 --> 01:24:07,898 To have the attitude that he has where he's always 1237 01:24:07,899 --> 01:24:10,719 ready for something new and he doesn't know it all - 1238 01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:15,759 even though he does! - I think that's magical. 1239 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:19,819 There's a differenCe between playing music and being music, 1240 01:24:19,820 --> 01:24:23,438 and that's how he is set apart, Cos he IS music. 1241 01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:30,519 jeff seems to embody the sound that he produces, and I've watChed him 1242 01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:35,279 take someone else's guitar who was just playing a moment before, 1243 01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:39,759 pick it up with no effects, no nothing, and staet playing, 1244 01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:41,898 and the sound of that same instrument 1245 01:24:41,899 --> 01:24:43,319 is just Completely different. 1246 01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:47,639 This unique talent, this unique musical sensibility, 1247 01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:52,779 vocabulary, inspiration and willingness to take risks, 1248 01:24:52,780 --> 01:24:57,279 jumping off cliffs, y'know, and that aIl shows up in his music. 1249 01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:00,779 People do need to... 1250 01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:04,859 ..up their awareness about him. I mean where have they been? 1251 01:25:04,860 --> 01:25:08,898 There is no-one else that has been as consistently good 1252 01:25:08,899 --> 01:25:15,679 exciting, out there, Looking for new things, adventurous, maveriCk, 1253 01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:18,639 since he staeted in the "605. 1254 01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:23,499 He just loves music. I think... 1255 01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:28,679 ..if you stop wanting to play, if you're not inspired by what 1256 01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:33,398 you hear, then you might as well sit at home by the fire and watch TV. 1257 01:25:33,399 --> 01:25:35,719 But obviously he's still got something left to say. 1258 01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:40,478 I haven't given up hope, Jeff, y'know. THE voiCe, THE guitar. 1259 01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:41,898 The good thing about guitarists 1260 01:25:41,899 --> 01:25:45,019 is that everyone's got their own character playing. 1261 01:25:45,020 --> 01:25:47,819 That"s something which we all do understand. 1262 01:25:47,820 --> 01:25:50,819 But we could all be talking for hours and hours 1263 01:25:50,820 --> 01:25:53,639 and years and years, decades and decades, 1264 01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:57,898 but the most impoetant thing, the thing that you can't actually 1265 01:25:57,899 --> 01:26:01,719 put into words, is what you actually hear in that music. 1266 01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:04,779 And that is the key to all of this, of Jeff's playing 1267 01:26:04,780 --> 01:26:06,779 and why Jeff is so brilliant, 1268 01:26:06,780 --> 01:26:10,679 because it's what he manages to convey with his guitar. 1269 01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:16,799 And that has to be heard to be believed. 1270 01:26:18,399 --> 01:26:21,719 I always keep a guitar in nearly every place in the house to 1271 01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:23,759 remind me that I should be doing that. 1272 01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:25,398 HE LAUGHS 1273 01:26:25,399 --> 01:26:28,559 And the guitar is always a Constant challenge. 1274 01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:31,898 Every time I pick it up, i pretend that i've just started playing. 1275 01:26:31,899 --> 01:26:32,898 And it seems to work.113302

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