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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,567 --> 00:00:04,177 Don't let people see you out there signing autographs, 2 00:00:04,221 --> 00:00:05,791 all these little kids and stuff. 3 00:00:05,831 --> 00:00:07,831 They say, "Oh, you're not a bad guy." 4 00:00:07,877 --> 00:00:09,747 You want them to think you're the baddest, 5 00:00:09,792 --> 00:00:12,932 meanest bastard to ever walk the street. 6 00:00:12,969 --> 00:00:14,319 And that's the way you're gonna make money. 7 00:00:14,362 --> 00:00:17,762 [Announcer] "Dr. D" David Schultz! 8 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:19,850 [Narrator] In the early 80s, there were few better at 9 00:00:19,889 --> 00:00:22,939 playing the villain than "Dr. D" David Schultz. 10 00:00:22,979 --> 00:00:24,589 Now what's wrong with you? Are you crazy? 11 00:00:24,633 --> 00:00:26,553 Come out here and try to make a fool out of me! 12 00:00:26,591 --> 00:00:28,291 Get the camera out of here! 13 00:00:28,332 --> 00:00:31,342 He was big enough and mean enough to get his own way. 14 00:00:31,379 --> 00:00:33,639 Get down and fight, baby! Get down! 15 00:00:33,685 --> 00:00:36,165 At the same time, he was a tremendous performer. 16 00:00:36,210 --> 00:00:37,780 He was destined to become one of 17 00:00:37,820 --> 00:00:41,610 World Wrestling Federation's most notorious stars. 18 00:00:41,650 --> 00:00:44,350 I come to the WWF, baby. 19 00:00:44,392 --> 00:00:45,962 They hated me, but they loved me. 20 00:00:46,002 --> 00:00:47,792 They loved to hate me. [laughs] 21 00:00:47,830 --> 00:00:50,790 I'm the guy that went to schoolwith you people out there, 22 00:00:50,833 --> 00:00:51,923 when you was growing up, 23 00:00:51,964 --> 00:00:53,584 and took your lunch money from you. 24 00:00:53,618 --> 00:00:56,358 That was my job, to be bad, and I could back it up. 25 00:00:56,404 --> 00:00:58,754 But one fateful encounter in New York would 26 00:00:58,797 --> 00:01:01,017 destroy his career in an instant. 27 00:01:01,061 --> 00:01:03,981 To make sure that nobody knew the secrets 28 00:01:04,020 --> 00:01:05,800 inside the locker room. 29 00:01:05,848 --> 00:01:07,678 - Standard questions. - I think this is fake. 30 00:01:07,719 --> 00:01:09,369 What's your response to the people 31 00:01:09,417 --> 00:01:12,117 who point out that this is fake? 32 00:01:12,159 --> 00:01:14,289 You think it's fake? 33 00:01:14,335 --> 00:01:16,685 Holy shit! What the hell just happened here? 34 00:01:16,728 --> 00:01:19,508 In an era when wrestlers lived by an honor code of 35 00:01:19,557 --> 00:01:22,647 protecting the business, no one took it more to heart 36 00:01:22,691 --> 00:01:25,561 than David Schultz, and one single action 37 00:01:25,607 --> 00:01:27,827 cost him everything. 38 00:01:27,870 --> 00:01:29,130 They called me back and said, 39 00:01:29,176 --> 00:01:30,786 "Nobody wants to sign a contract with you! 40 00:01:30,829 --> 00:01:32,959 You're too mean! You're too bad!" 41 00:01:33,005 --> 00:01:35,695 I'm anything but fake. I'm an entertainer. 42 00:01:35,747 --> 00:01:40,577 Con man. Whatever. I am not a fake. 43 00:01:40,622 --> 00:01:48,892 ♪ 44 00:01:48,934 --> 00:01:50,984 For most of the 20th century, 45 00:01:51,023 --> 00:01:53,333 professional wrestling was a closed society, 46 00:01:53,374 --> 00:01:55,684 where the rules of the game were never revealed 47 00:01:55,724 --> 00:01:57,994 to the paying public. 48 00:01:58,030 --> 00:02:01,030 Wrestlers lived by a secret code that maintained the 49 00:02:01,077 --> 00:02:04,077 illusion of good and evil in the squared circle. 50 00:02:04,124 --> 00:02:05,784 Make the fights look real, 51 00:02:05,821 --> 00:02:08,171 even if the matches are predetermined. 52 00:02:08,215 --> 00:02:10,995 But at the dawn of a pro-wrestling revolution, 53 00:02:11,043 --> 00:02:13,573 the old traditions were changing faster than 54 00:02:13,611 --> 00:02:15,961 some performers could keep up with. 55 00:02:16,005 --> 00:02:19,655 ♪ 56 00:02:19,704 --> 00:02:22,234 Okay, this is one of my storage units here. 57 00:02:22,272 --> 00:02:24,802 Oh, yeah! Here we go, baby. 58 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,760 Just come on in. Bring yourself on in here. 59 00:02:26,798 --> 00:02:28,238 Watch your step. 60 00:02:28,278 --> 00:02:31,148 Watch the spiders and the snakes, and all that. 61 00:02:31,194 --> 00:02:33,634 Here's a card that I used to use. 62 00:02:33,675 --> 00:02:36,065 It said, "You've just been patronized by the 63 00:02:36,112 --> 00:02:37,982 world's greatest pro wrestler." 64 00:02:38,027 --> 00:02:39,457 [off-screen] Where's this thing come from? 65 00:02:39,507 --> 00:02:41,417 [David] I don't know how theyget it to look so lively, 66 00:02:41,465 --> 00:02:42,895 you know, just like me. 67 00:02:42,945 --> 00:02:48,775 This bag, here, has got some very special items. 68 00:02:48,820 --> 00:02:53,170 One of 'em is a stun gun, and you take this and 69 00:02:53,216 --> 00:02:55,306 you pull it back here... 70 00:02:55,349 --> 00:02:57,959 and when you hold it on the guy, 71 00:02:58,003 --> 00:02:59,793 you just tell him, "You're under arrest. 72 00:02:59,831 --> 00:03:01,181 Get your hands up. 73 00:03:01,224 --> 00:03:04,924 If you don't obey, I'm gonna shoot you." 74 00:03:04,967 --> 00:03:07,967 And they say, "Hey, man..." Boom. 75 00:03:08,013 --> 00:03:10,973 I'm "Dr. D" David Schultz, probably the greatest 76 00:03:11,016 --> 00:03:14,106 pro wrestler of all time, in my opinion. 77 00:03:14,150 --> 00:03:18,200 You know, about '72, '73, I waswatching wrestling on TV 78 00:03:18,241 --> 00:03:20,681 one time and I said, "Well, this is not hard." 79 00:03:20,722 --> 00:03:23,812 So, I went by to see Herb Welch. 80 00:03:23,855 --> 00:03:26,025 This one right here is Herb Welch, 81 00:03:26,075 --> 00:03:27,505 the one that trained me. 82 00:03:27,555 --> 00:03:30,685 "Herb Welch, How to Become a Champion". 83 00:03:30,732 --> 00:03:32,602 Herb Welch had been one of the biggest wrestling stars 84 00:03:32,647 --> 00:03:34,427 in the south, from the time of the Depression 85 00:03:34,475 --> 00:03:35,945 through the 1950s. 86 00:03:35,998 --> 00:03:38,128 He had learned from the, the pioneers, 87 00:03:38,174 --> 00:03:41,134 the original pro wrestlers thatcame from the carnivals. 88 00:03:41,177 --> 00:03:44,177 It was the last place in the country that you could go 89 00:03:44,224 --> 00:03:47,234 to literally learn from a guy who was there at the 90 00:03:47,270 --> 00:03:49,880 formation of organized professional wrestling. 91 00:03:49,925 --> 00:03:51,835 I'm Jim Cornette, and for nearly 40 years, 92 00:03:51,883 --> 00:03:54,283 I've been a promoter, a match maker, announcer, 93 00:03:54,321 --> 00:03:57,671 manager, and a historian in professional wrestling. 94 00:03:57,715 --> 00:03:59,105 [David] He lived in Dyersburg. 95 00:03:59,151 --> 00:04:00,981 I went out there and pulled the truck over. 96 00:04:01,023 --> 00:04:02,763 And, he come out on the porch, 97 00:04:02,807 --> 00:04:04,287 and we sat there and talked a while. 98 00:04:04,331 --> 00:04:05,941 And he said, "Yeah, I'll train you. 99 00:04:05,984 --> 00:04:07,604 When you want to start?" 100 00:04:07,638 --> 00:04:10,118 [Jim] His method of training wasto take these guys into 101 00:04:10,162 --> 00:04:13,692 his barn on his farm and beat the piss out of them. 102 00:04:13,731 --> 00:04:16,431 Herb Welch was such a salty, mean old bastard that 103 00:04:16,473 --> 00:04:19,303 he would go in a locker room and he would take a dump, 104 00:04:19,346 --> 00:04:22,306 and he would take a handful of it and he would rub it 105 00:04:22,349 --> 00:04:25,179 in his armpit, and then when he got out there, 106 00:04:25,221 --> 00:04:27,351 the first thing he'd do is he'd lock up with a guy and 107 00:04:27,397 --> 00:04:29,877 grab a headlock and start grinding that head as 108 00:04:29,921 --> 00:04:32,491 hard as he could until the guy was screaming, 109 00:04:32,533 --> 00:04:34,493 "Please, let me go! I'll do anything you want! 110 00:04:34,535 --> 00:04:36,145 Please, let me go!" 111 00:04:36,188 --> 00:04:39,278 They was trying to hurt me, see:"Can you be one of us? 112 00:04:39,322 --> 00:04:41,852 Are you capable of doing this?" 113 00:04:41,890 --> 00:04:43,850 I'd already gotten in pretty good shape after about 114 00:04:43,892 --> 00:04:45,422 a month and a half, two months. 115 00:04:45,459 --> 00:04:48,379 He was getting wrestlers tostop by and work out with me, 116 00:04:48,418 --> 00:04:49,848 and these boys told Herb, said, 117 00:04:49,898 --> 00:04:51,288 "You gotta do something with this kid, man. 118 00:04:51,334 --> 00:04:52,514 We can't handle him. 119 00:04:52,553 --> 00:04:54,213 We do something to him, he fights back." 120 00:04:54,250 --> 00:04:56,380 [Jim] Herb Welch sat David Schultz down then and said, 121 00:04:56,426 --> 00:05:00,036 "You've got what it takes to make it in this business. 122 00:05:00,082 --> 00:05:02,172 Now we're gonna have to smarten you up, son." 123 00:05:02,214 --> 00:05:04,304 [David ] He said, "Well, you're hurting everybody. 124 00:05:04,347 --> 00:05:06,127 You re too damn stiff." 125 00:05:06,175 --> 00:05:07,735 Well, he had never told me any different. 126 00:05:07,785 --> 00:05:09,215 I thought you was fighting for your life. 127 00:05:09,265 --> 00:05:12,395 I thought it was real. I thought it was 100% real. 128 00:05:12,442 --> 00:05:14,752 [Jim] The training that DavidSchultz got from Herb Welch 129 00:05:14,792 --> 00:05:18,752 centered on one thing: it's the world of kayfabe. 130 00:05:18,796 --> 00:05:21,626 [David] Kayfabe means you don't be seen together, 131 00:05:21,669 --> 00:05:23,979 right after you had a bad match out here, 132 00:05:24,019 --> 00:05:26,279 blood and guts and everything, and then, 133 00:05:26,326 --> 00:05:27,716 10 miles down the road they catch you at 134 00:05:27,762 --> 00:05:29,812 Shoney's eating together. No. 135 00:05:29,851 --> 00:05:32,381 That's supposed to be your enemy back then. 136 00:05:32,419 --> 00:05:34,549 [Jim] Continuing the aura that wrestling and 137 00:05:34,595 --> 00:05:35,985 the people in it are real. 138 00:05:36,031 --> 00:05:37,951 Those are the secrets of wrestling. 139 00:05:37,989 --> 00:05:40,639 Protect the business. Don't spill the secrets. 140 00:05:40,688 --> 00:05:43,208 You're in a secret society. This is our world. 141 00:05:43,255 --> 00:05:44,775 It was like being in the mafia. 142 00:05:46,955 --> 00:05:50,305 Well, you need to learn how to work. 143 00:05:50,350 --> 00:05:54,480 The holds, and the moves, and the timing. 144 00:05:54,528 --> 00:05:55,658 [Announcer] Oh! 145 00:05:55,703 --> 00:05:57,713 Know what's gonna make the people mad. 146 00:05:57,748 --> 00:06:01,138 Why, I almost killed that Andrethe Giant with my bare hands. 147 00:06:01,186 --> 00:06:02,966 Know what's gonna make 'em feel good. 148 00:06:03,014 --> 00:06:05,714 The Doctor got funky, dang it. I got funky. 149 00:06:05,756 --> 00:06:09,106 David Schultz found success in wrestling just being 150 00:06:09,151 --> 00:06:12,421 David Schultz turned upto 20, is this crazy, you know, 151 00:06:12,459 --> 00:06:14,369 redneck hillbilly from Tennessee. 152 00:06:14,417 --> 00:06:16,507 You think you a man! You ain't nothing, boy! 153 00:06:16,550 --> 00:06:19,420 Through it all, Schultz did what he was trained to do: 154 00:06:19,466 --> 00:06:22,246 never break kayfabe. 155 00:06:22,294 --> 00:06:23,734 A lot of the boys thought I was the meanest, 156 00:06:23,774 --> 00:06:26,084 baddest they ever seen because I made 'em 157 00:06:26,124 --> 00:06:29,394 work hard in the ring. Hogan was one of 'em. 158 00:06:29,432 --> 00:06:34,182 [Promo] This man is not a television illusion. 159 00:06:34,219 --> 00:06:39,089 He is not an artist conception. 160 00:06:39,137 --> 00:06:43,657 He is not a figment of the imagination. 161 00:06:43,707 --> 00:06:46,877 He is The Hulk! 162 00:06:46,928 --> 00:06:49,628 In the late 1970s, Hulk Hogan is an 163 00:06:49,670 --> 00:06:52,460 up and coming wrestler from Augusta, Georgia. 164 00:06:52,499 --> 00:06:54,719 He first crossed paths with Schultz 165 00:06:54,762 --> 00:06:56,682 working the Florida circuit. 166 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,810 I thought he was just a big 'ol body builder that wanted 167 00:06:59,854 --> 00:07:02,204 to get in the business, and he was. 168 00:07:02,247 --> 00:07:04,547 He had no money, he had nothing. 169 00:07:04,598 --> 00:07:07,248 He was living in a van and, I let him come into 170 00:07:07,296 --> 00:07:09,776 my apartment with me and share my apartment with me 171 00:07:09,820 --> 00:07:12,430 in Pensacola. We become real good friends. 172 00:07:12,475 --> 00:07:14,905 The two are natural adversaries, 173 00:07:14,956 --> 00:07:17,646 and it's not long before their epic confrontations 174 00:07:17,698 --> 00:07:21,008 attract the attention of Vince McMahon, 175 00:07:21,049 --> 00:07:24,489 whose World Wrestling Federation is expanding nationwide. 176 00:07:24,531 --> 00:07:27,621 And in 1983, McMahon handpicks Hogan 177 00:07:27,664 --> 00:07:29,934 to be his centerpiece attraction. 178 00:07:29,971 --> 00:07:33,671 Making his first appearance in this arena, 179 00:07:33,714 --> 00:07:37,374 ladies and gentlemen, Hulk Hogan! 180 00:07:37,413 --> 00:07:40,463 In 1983, Vince McMahon was systematically going around, 181 00:07:40,503 --> 00:07:43,773 filling spots for his plan totake over the wrestling world. 182 00:07:47,423 --> 00:07:49,163 Money, of course. Vince told him, 183 00:07:49,207 --> 00:07:52,117 -"We gonna put the belt on you. -You're gonna be our #1 guy." 184 00:07:52,167 --> 00:07:55,207 Hogan wanted me to come up and work with him 'cause 185 00:07:55,257 --> 00:07:58,737 he told Vince, "Hey, I can make money with this guy." 186 00:07:58,782 --> 00:08:02,872 Schultz is brought into the WWF to be Hogan's top rival, 187 00:08:02,917 --> 00:08:07,437 as their in-ring chemistry was already a proven draw. 188 00:08:07,487 --> 00:08:11,397 Vince called me and said,"I need you to come on up and 189 00:08:11,447 --> 00:08:13,537 you ain't gotta worry about making money anymore. 190 00:08:13,580 --> 00:08:15,930 We're gonna be sure you make all the money you need 191 00:08:15,973 --> 00:08:17,153 for the rest of your life. 192 00:08:17,192 --> 00:08:18,412 You ain't gotta worry about it." 193 00:08:18,454 --> 00:08:19,804 Vince McMahon, he said, "David, 194 00:08:19,847 --> 00:08:22,067 I want you to the be the baddest heel around. 195 00:08:22,110 --> 00:08:24,590 Baddest bad guy there is, you're gonna be it." 196 00:08:24,634 --> 00:08:26,814 They told me the competition was here. 197 00:08:26,854 --> 00:08:29,554 They told me the greatestwrestlers in the world was here. 198 00:08:29,596 --> 00:08:32,466 If that's an example of great wrestlers, baby, 199 00:08:32,512 --> 00:08:35,472 I'm gonna walk on 'em like a steam roller! 200 00:08:35,515 --> 00:08:37,725 [Jim] He wasn't a cookie cutter heel. 201 00:08:37,778 --> 00:08:39,738 He was, he was alittle wilder, little crazier. 202 00:08:39,780 --> 00:08:42,260 And, that type of thing was starting to get over. 203 00:08:42,304 --> 00:08:45,094 They had the footage on TNT, Tuesday Night Titans, 204 00:08:45,133 --> 00:08:46,403 where they go to Schultz's house and 205 00:08:46,438 --> 00:08:48,878 he's firing rifles off in the living room. 206 00:08:48,919 --> 00:08:51,229 - Whoa! - You stupid idiot! 207 00:08:51,269 --> 00:08:53,709 You know, telling his wife to go scrub the floors. 208 00:08:53,750 --> 00:08:55,400 Get up and get us something eat. 209 00:08:55,447 --> 00:08:56,707 "Woman, get in there and get that done. 210 00:08:56,753 --> 00:08:58,323 Kids, get in there and do this." 211 00:08:58,363 --> 00:08:59,893 I'll slap that smile off your face. 212 00:08:59,930 --> 00:09:01,190 Don't smile at me, boy. 213 00:09:01,236 --> 00:09:04,196 Vince said the Sheriff Department and the 214 00:09:04,239 --> 00:09:07,199 State Police came to his office that Monday morning, 215 00:09:07,242 --> 00:09:09,332 and wanted to know my address,where I lived. 216 00:09:09,374 --> 00:09:12,464 They had warrants for my arrest for child abuse and 217 00:09:12,508 --> 00:09:14,638 spousal abuse. And Vince said, 218 00:09:14,684 --> 00:09:18,254 "Oh, my god! That was a show!" 219 00:09:18,296 --> 00:09:19,906 And the guys couldn't believe it. 220 00:09:19,950 --> 00:09:23,560 That was all Vince. Those wasn't my guns. 221 00:09:23,606 --> 00:09:25,996 Vince had somebody at the TV station bring those guns. 222 00:09:26,043 --> 00:09:27,573 This one here is worth a lot of money. 223 00:09:27,610 --> 00:09:29,180 Everything I got's worth a lot of money. 224 00:09:29,220 --> 00:09:33,140 -Wasn't my house. -Wasn't my wife. Wasn't my kids. 225 00:09:33,181 --> 00:09:35,841 Get up! Get up! Go, get, get upstairs! 226 00:09:35,879 --> 00:09:39,399 All that was Vince McMahon, to make people hate me. 227 00:09:39,448 --> 00:09:42,708 And the more they hated me, the more money we made. 228 00:09:42,756 --> 00:09:45,276 McMahon has hit on a formula that works, 229 00:09:45,323 --> 00:09:47,803 and his empire is growing rapidly. 230 00:09:47,848 --> 00:09:49,588 However, as a result, 231 00:09:49,632 --> 00:09:52,942 it starts to attract unwanted attention. 232 00:09:52,983 --> 00:09:54,903 I liked it as a kid and... 233 00:09:54,942 --> 00:09:59,562 now, I thought it was kind of silly and... hypocritical. 234 00:09:59,599 --> 00:10:02,339 I'm John Stossel. I was a consumer reporter 235 00:10:02,384 --> 00:10:06,824 who became a general reporter at 20/20. 236 00:10:06,867 --> 00:10:08,647 And you know, sometimes I wonder about the 237 00:10:08,695 --> 00:10:11,825 credentials of these doctors who promote vitamins. 238 00:10:11,872 --> 00:10:14,442 In the early 1980s, John Stossel is a 239 00:10:14,483 --> 00:10:18,233 rising journalist for ABC News, who's made a name for himself 240 00:10:18,269 --> 00:10:21,619 taking down shady companies and corrupt businessmen. 241 00:10:21,664 --> 00:10:23,844 How can you say it might not be harmful, 242 00:10:23,884 --> 00:10:27,104 yet, most of the people who die of lung cancer smoke? 243 00:10:27,148 --> 00:10:30,928 Now, Stossel has chosen to turn his investigative lens 244 00:10:30,978 --> 00:10:33,458 towards another highly lucrative industry, 245 00:10:33,502 --> 00:10:36,462 one he believes is deceiving its audience. 246 00:10:36,505 --> 00:10:38,115 I was a wrestler in high school, 247 00:10:38,159 --> 00:10:41,119 and I was always a little annoyed that people, 248 00:10:41,162 --> 00:10:45,212 some people, believed that pro wrestling was real 249 00:10:45,253 --> 00:10:49,173 rather than a scripted eventwhere the winner is preordained 250 00:10:49,213 --> 00:10:52,353 and people dress up in funny clothes and 251 00:10:52,390 --> 00:10:55,390 pretend anger, and... and bullshit. 252 00:10:55,437 --> 00:10:58,267 It had leaked out that 20/20 was gonna do a piece and, 253 00:10:58,309 --> 00:11:00,269 obviously, if it's ABC Network News, 254 00:11:00,311 --> 00:11:02,491 it's gonna be an exposé. 255 00:11:02,531 --> 00:11:05,271 [John] I just thought it was interesting that this big, 256 00:11:05,316 --> 00:11:08,966 growing, successful business was based on bullshit. 257 00:11:09,016 --> 00:11:14,276 I mean, cleverly done, athletic bullshit, but lies. 258 00:11:14,325 --> 00:11:16,365 The worst thing that could ever happen, 259 00:11:16,414 --> 00:11:18,204 everybody's gonna want to know, 260 00:11:18,242 --> 00:11:20,072 is wrestling fake or not? 261 00:11:20,114 --> 00:11:22,684 ♪ 262 00:11:27,599 --> 00:11:29,689 The number one cardinal rule of professional wrestling 263 00:11:29,732 --> 00:11:32,082 for a hundred years was, don't expose the secrets. 264 00:11:32,126 --> 00:11:36,166 One of the biggest, most famous exposés... 265 00:11:36,217 --> 00:11:39,917 happened in New York in the 1930s. 266 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,740 "A Thrilling and Dramatic Expose of 267 00:11:41,788 --> 00:11:44,438 Modern Wrestling Fakes Coming Soon!" 268 00:11:44,486 --> 00:11:47,006 In New York, newspaper exposés killed wrestling 269 00:11:47,054 --> 00:11:49,934 for almost 15 years. Everybody realized, 270 00:11:49,970 --> 00:11:52,190 this is our society, this is kayfabe. 271 00:11:52,233 --> 00:11:54,023 We can't reveal what's going on. 272 00:11:54,061 --> 00:11:56,371 It'll cost us all our livelihoods. 273 00:11:56,411 --> 00:11:59,151 50 years later, the stakes are just as high for 274 00:11:59,196 --> 00:12:01,756 Vince McMahon's World Wrestling Federation. 275 00:12:01,808 --> 00:12:04,898 And for his newest superstar David Schultz, 276 00:12:04,941 --> 00:12:07,201 kayfabe is a religion. 277 00:12:07,248 --> 00:12:08,468 I don't care what you think. 278 00:12:08,510 --> 00:12:10,340 I don't care what the people think about me. 279 00:12:10,381 --> 00:12:12,251 I don't care what nobody thinks about me. 280 00:12:12,296 --> 00:12:14,386 I don't care what you think about me. 281 00:12:14,429 --> 00:12:17,649 It was my business. If I didn't observe kayfabe, 282 00:12:17,693 --> 00:12:20,303 they'd look at me and say, "Ah, he's a phony." 283 00:12:20,348 --> 00:12:22,478 No. I was a pro wrestler. 284 00:12:22,524 --> 00:12:26,144 I come to the WWF, baby, where the toughest 285 00:12:26,180 --> 00:12:29,050 in the world is wrestling right now. 286 00:12:29,096 --> 00:12:31,656 Being a pro wrestler means that I had standards 287 00:12:31,707 --> 00:12:33,187 I had to stand up to. 288 00:12:33,230 --> 00:12:34,540 That's the only way I could make money, 289 00:12:34,579 --> 00:12:36,189 have high standards. 290 00:12:36,233 --> 00:12:39,723 As the WWF's popularity is reaching new heights, 291 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:43,499 ABC News reporter John Stossel must somehow 292 00:12:43,545 --> 00:12:46,545 infiltrate wrestling's secret society if he's to 293 00:12:46,591 --> 00:12:49,331 expose what happens behind the scenes. 294 00:12:49,377 --> 00:12:52,247 We either did a survey or found a survey that about a 295 00:12:52,293 --> 00:12:55,213 third of the people who attended the events 296 00:12:55,252 --> 00:12:56,472 thought it was real. 297 00:12:56,514 --> 00:12:58,604 - This is real? - Yeah, I think so, yes. 298 00:12:58,647 --> 00:13:01,997 And, I don't like people being bullshitted and... 299 00:13:02,042 --> 00:13:06,092 couldn't do a story unless wecould find some insider 300 00:13:06,133 --> 00:13:10,013 who would say, "Yeah, here's howwe fake this and that," and... 301 00:13:10,050 --> 00:13:13,140 was willing to go and into ring and demonstrate. 302 00:13:13,183 --> 00:13:17,063 And eventually, we found Eddy Mansfield. 303 00:13:17,100 --> 00:13:19,280 I'm the Continental Lover, Eddy Mansfield. 304 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,670 A rich woman's lover and a poor girl's dream. 305 00:13:21,713 --> 00:13:24,853 The Continental Lover, Eddy Mansfield. 306 00:13:24,891 --> 00:13:26,681 I left the state of Georgia when I was 17 307 00:13:26,718 --> 00:13:29,158 to go play baseball. When I hurt my arm and 308 00:13:29,199 --> 00:13:31,029 I couldn't play baseball anymore, 309 00:13:31,071 --> 00:13:32,161 I had to find something to do. 310 00:13:32,202 --> 00:13:33,992 You couldn't just drink every day. 311 00:13:34,030 --> 00:13:36,250 And you cowboy! 312 00:13:36,293 --> 00:13:37,773 And so, I always liked wrestling. 313 00:13:37,817 --> 00:13:39,117 When I was breaking into the business, 314 00:13:39,166 --> 00:13:41,036 I was kinda self-taught a little bit. 315 00:13:41,081 --> 00:13:43,471 But the bottom line is, I could draw money and 316 00:13:43,518 --> 00:13:44,868 I could talk on that mike. 317 00:13:44,911 --> 00:13:46,871 I'm gonna chase you around the place and then 318 00:13:46,913 --> 00:13:48,393 I'm gonna erase your face. 319 00:13:48,436 --> 00:13:49,736 And I was very fortunate. 320 00:13:49,785 --> 00:13:52,825 The only thing that, that really shocked me... 321 00:13:52,875 --> 00:13:54,215 was the payoffs. You know, 322 00:13:54,268 --> 00:13:55,878 you're drawing sellout crowds and 323 00:13:55,922 --> 00:13:58,582 you're getting not even pennies on the dollar. 324 00:13:58,620 --> 00:14:00,540 With no healthcare, no nothing. 325 00:14:00,578 --> 00:14:02,448 That's where I'm having the problem. 326 00:14:02,493 --> 00:14:04,803 Well, how come you don't treat us like 327 00:14:04,844 --> 00:14:07,894 professional athletes are supposed to be treated? 328 00:14:07,934 --> 00:14:10,024 Not like the scum of the earth. 329 00:14:10,066 --> 00:14:13,806 -Why don't you give these guyshealth insurance and a 401 -K? 330 00:14:13,853 --> 00:14:14,903 Set an example! 331 00:14:14,941 --> 00:14:16,381 You want to be a big-time promoter, 332 00:14:16,420 --> 00:14:19,160 let's set an example. 333 00:14:19,206 --> 00:14:21,556 You know, I didn't quit the wrestling business. 334 00:14:21,599 --> 00:14:22,949 The wrestling business quit me. 335 00:14:25,125 --> 00:14:27,775 Well, I went and kick backed 20% of my money. 336 00:14:27,823 --> 00:14:30,783 The booker at the time wanted to control people. 337 00:14:30,826 --> 00:14:33,306 They did it to the other guys who agreed to it. 338 00:14:33,350 --> 00:14:35,480 But, I didn't agree to it. And then, 339 00:14:35,526 --> 00:14:38,006 my booking stopped. I mean, boom. 340 00:14:38,051 --> 00:14:41,101 As quick as I went up, I was out. 341 00:14:41,141 --> 00:14:45,011 I said, "You do this to me... 342 00:14:45,058 --> 00:14:48,318 I will promise you, I'll go on national television and 343 00:14:48,365 --> 00:14:51,665 I will tell the whole world what kind of scam 344 00:14:51,716 --> 00:14:55,156 you're running on, on the guys." 345 00:14:55,198 --> 00:14:58,848 I said, "Try me." Well, he did. 346 00:14:58,898 --> 00:15:01,988 I made one phone call to ABC. 347 00:15:02,031 --> 00:15:05,471 Stossel and his producers at 20/20 arrange an interview 348 00:15:05,513 --> 00:15:08,393 with Eddy Mansfield who agrees to reveal 349 00:15:08,429 --> 00:15:10,169 the tricks of the trade. 350 00:15:10,213 --> 00:15:12,433 You couldn't just say, "Hey, this is fake." 351 00:15:12,476 --> 00:15:17,086 You had to both reveal and entertain people so, 352 00:15:17,133 --> 00:15:21,093 I needed a genuine professionalwrestler to demonstrate. 353 00:15:25,228 --> 00:15:29,058 Ah, when we shot. You know, 354 00:15:29,102 --> 00:15:31,102 I talked to them and we were kind of laying out 355 00:15:31,147 --> 00:15:34,757 the show and how it would run and all that. 356 00:15:34,803 --> 00:15:36,943 John Stossel come down and went in the ring with him. 357 00:15:36,979 --> 00:15:39,289 Pro wrestler show him how stuff's done. 358 00:15:41,027 --> 00:15:43,937 He lands on his forearms and elbows, not on me. 359 00:15:43,986 --> 00:15:47,726 He showed me how to jump and be thrown, and... 360 00:15:47,772 --> 00:15:50,082 some of the tricks. 361 00:15:50,123 --> 00:15:51,653 And you just take off on your own? 362 00:15:51,689 --> 00:15:52,779 Right. 363 00:15:52,821 --> 00:15:53,821 [David] Why didn't they come get me? 364 00:15:53,865 --> 00:15:55,345 Let me take him into the ring. 365 00:15:55,389 --> 00:15:57,129 I could show him how it's done. 366 00:15:57,173 --> 00:15:59,393 No, you had to have two wimps out there, 367 00:15:59,436 --> 00:16:01,306 Stossel and Mansfield. 368 00:16:01,351 --> 00:16:03,221 Ah! Good. 369 00:16:03,266 --> 00:16:06,526 [Jim] Mansfield tried to givethe standard exposé that, 370 00:16:06,574 --> 00:16:08,924 yes, we're told to win and lose. 371 00:16:08,968 --> 00:16:12,148 - Is this real wrestling? - No. Not real... no. 372 00:16:12,188 --> 00:16:14,628 Not at all. I mean, if somebody believed that, 373 00:16:14,669 --> 00:16:15,979 they'd be stupid. 374 00:16:16,018 --> 00:16:20,888 But also, he went so far as to show the blade. 375 00:16:20,936 --> 00:16:24,156 Nobody wanted fake blood where people could find it. 376 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,070 That would be proof that whatwe were doing was bullshit. 377 00:16:27,116 --> 00:16:29,156 So, everybody bled for real. 378 00:16:29,205 --> 00:16:32,725 Two ways to do that, the easyway and the hard way. 379 00:16:32,774 --> 00:16:35,734 The easy way, is with a blade. 380 00:16:35,777 --> 00:16:37,467 You know, they were just on me, 381 00:16:37,518 --> 00:16:40,348 "Just show the blade,show the blade, show the blade." 382 00:16:40,390 --> 00:16:42,000 I'm going, "Hey, what about all this other stuff 383 00:16:42,044 --> 00:16:44,094 I need to talk about?"They had to push it, push it, 384 00:16:44,133 --> 00:16:47,923 push it, you know what I mean? And so... 385 00:16:47,963 --> 00:16:51,233 And I, and I, I did it. 386 00:16:51,271 --> 00:16:56,321 You go just like that. 387 00:16:56,363 --> 00:16:58,453 And gradually during the match it would drip down 388 00:16:58,495 --> 00:16:59,755 over your face? 389 00:16:59,801 --> 00:17:03,461 That's it. See, if I was sweating, it'd pour. 390 00:17:03,500 --> 00:17:06,420 I was pretty shocked and, also, 391 00:17:06,460 --> 00:17:09,770 something about hiding a razor blade in their mouths? 392 00:17:09,811 --> 00:17:11,641 Some keep the blade right here, 393 00:17:11,682 --> 00:17:15,382 in their mouth. Some, in their tights. 394 00:17:15,425 --> 00:17:19,465 These are tough dudes who risk a lot for this sport. 395 00:17:19,516 --> 00:17:21,336 Sport. I shouldn't call it a sport. 396 00:17:21,388 --> 00:17:25,958 For this... entertainment. 397 00:17:26,001 --> 00:17:30,531 John Stossel is only focused onanything to expose the business, 398 00:17:30,571 --> 00:17:32,531 and I wasn't there to expose the business. 399 00:17:32,573 --> 00:17:36,103 I was there to help the business. 400 00:17:36,142 --> 00:17:39,802 And the promoters are very ruthless people. 401 00:17:39,841 --> 00:17:41,801 And, they don't care of the people 402 00:17:41,843 --> 00:17:43,373 that make them the money. 403 00:17:43,410 --> 00:17:46,760 I wanted to get the healthcareand the benefits for the boys. 404 00:17:46,804 --> 00:17:47,894 [David ] He come back and says, 405 00:17:47,936 --> 00:17:49,846 "Oh, I wanted to do it for insurance." 406 00:17:49,894 --> 00:17:51,424 This guy, he just couldn't get no work. 407 00:17:51,461 --> 00:17:54,811 Nobody wanted to use him. He wasn't worth a shit. 408 00:17:54,856 --> 00:17:57,416 [Jim] Eddy Mansfield's a has-been, never-was, 409 00:17:57,467 --> 00:17:58,767 couldn't get where he wanted to be, 410 00:17:58,816 --> 00:18:00,206 didn't have the talent. 411 00:18:00,253 --> 00:18:02,993 Then still tries to claim he did it for the boys. 412 00:18:03,038 --> 00:18:06,518 [Eddy] Bottom line is, it's timenow for them to step up and 413 00:18:06,563 --> 00:18:08,963 protect the guys, where they have a future, 414 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,790 when they get old. You know, I... 415 00:18:10,828 --> 00:18:12,918 I made a statement one time, I said, 416 00:18:12,961 --> 00:18:15,181 "Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves, 417 00:18:15,224 --> 00:18:19,234 but Abraham Lincoln forget to free the pro wrestlers." 418 00:18:19,272 --> 00:18:21,322 Armed with insider knowledge, 419 00:18:21,361 --> 00:18:24,491 Stossel sets out to confront the industry 420 00:18:24,538 --> 00:18:27,108 over Mansfield's allegations. 421 00:18:27,149 --> 00:18:28,629 ♪ 422 00:18:28,672 --> 00:18:31,812 I thought, well, we need to have the usual person from 423 00:18:31,849 --> 00:18:34,109 the professional organization say, 424 00:18:34,156 --> 00:18:37,156 "Oh, this isn't fake. This is all real!" 425 00:18:37,203 --> 00:18:39,033 So, we went to Madison Square Garden, 426 00:18:39,074 --> 00:18:40,774 and I guess Vince McMahon okayed it or 427 00:18:40,815 --> 00:18:42,895 we wouldn't have been there. 428 00:18:42,947 --> 00:18:45,907 I arrived at the arena and, of course, 429 00:18:45,950 --> 00:18:48,780 downstairs we walked through where the wrestlers come in 430 00:18:48,823 --> 00:18:50,913 and the fans, some people hollering, 431 00:18:50,955 --> 00:18:52,385 some people cussing. 432 00:18:52,435 --> 00:18:54,695 Go in the dressing room,talk to all the boys, "Hello." 433 00:18:54,742 --> 00:18:56,792 Sit down, put my boots on like I always do. 434 00:18:56,831 --> 00:19:00,271 Get ready, and that's when Vince come walking in and 435 00:19:00,313 --> 00:19:02,973 he said, "Listen, we got a guy out here 436 00:19:03,011 --> 00:19:04,931 making a joke out of the business. 437 00:19:04,969 --> 00:19:07,059 I want you to go out and interview with him. 438 00:19:07,102 --> 00:19:08,842 Blast him. Tear his ass up. 439 00:19:08,886 --> 00:19:11,366 Stay in character, Dr. D." 440 00:19:11,411 --> 00:19:14,541 We were backstage and I talked to the guy 441 00:19:14,588 --> 00:19:18,418 they call the Iron Sheik and then McMahon said, 442 00:19:18,461 --> 00:19:24,161 "Here's another guy." And then, Schultz came out. 443 00:19:24,206 --> 00:19:25,986 He was a little frightening. 444 00:19:26,034 --> 00:19:27,694 So, why are you called Dr. D? 445 00:19:27,731 --> 00:19:29,561 Why not? 446 00:19:29,603 --> 00:19:32,743 This was a recipe for disaster. 447 00:19:32,780 --> 00:19:36,700 I'm thinking, why would anybodyhave gone up to Schultz? 448 00:19:36,740 --> 00:19:38,790 - Is this a good business?- Yeah, it's a good business. 449 00:19:38,829 --> 00:19:39,919 I wouldn't be in it if it wasn't. 450 00:19:39,961 --> 00:19:40,921 Why is it a good business? 451 00:19:40,962 --> 00:19:42,442 Because, only the tough survive. 452 00:19:42,485 --> 00:19:43,965 That's the reason you ain't in it. 453 00:19:44,008 --> 00:19:45,578 And this punk holding thecamera, reason he ain't in it. 454 00:19:45,619 --> 00:19:47,229 Reason these rednecks out here ain't in it, 455 00:19:47,273 --> 00:19:49,103 because it's a tough business. 456 00:19:49,144 --> 00:19:52,374 I was feeling uncomfortable all the way... 457 00:19:52,408 --> 00:19:56,278 And, almost didn't ask him the question. 458 00:19:56,325 --> 00:19:58,275 I'll ask you the standard question... 459 00:19:58,327 --> 00:20:01,547 And I said, "A standard question, huh? Okay." 460 00:20:01,591 --> 00:20:04,031 - Standard question? - I think this is fake. 461 00:20:04,072 --> 00:20:06,032 "I think it's fake." Now I'm thinking, 462 00:20:06,074 --> 00:20:07,824 Vince wanted me to stay in character. 463 00:20:07,858 --> 00:20:11,038 Dr. D would slap the hellout of somebody that said that. 464 00:20:11,079 --> 00:20:14,429 - I think this is fake. - You think it's fake? 465 00:20:14,474 --> 00:20:16,004 How's that? Is that fake? 466 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,300 Holy shit! What the hell just happened here? 467 00:20:18,347 --> 00:20:20,917 ♪ 468 00:20:25,136 --> 00:20:27,136 ♪ 469 00:20:27,182 --> 00:20:30,052 Ah, boom. There goes Stossel down. 470 00:20:30,098 --> 00:20:32,188 Go, go back before the first slap. 471 00:20:32,231 --> 00:20:33,971 Right there, look, look, look! 472 00:20:34,015 --> 00:20:36,145 Now that I watch that back, he didn't even hit him 473 00:20:36,191 --> 00:20:37,451 nearly as hard as he could have. 474 00:20:37,497 --> 00:20:39,457 He didn't even draw back. He just, boom. 475 00:20:39,499 --> 00:20:40,939 I mean, it's still, it's David Schultz, 476 00:20:40,978 --> 00:20:43,238 but he could have, he could have... 477 00:20:43,285 --> 00:20:45,845 paralyzed him if he'd drawn back and swung. 478 00:20:45,896 --> 00:20:48,026 - I think this is fake. - You think it's fake? 479 00:20:48,072 --> 00:20:50,772 Whack. Whacked me in the ear. 480 00:20:50,814 --> 00:20:53,734 And knocked me down, and thenI stupidly got up again. 481 00:20:53,774 --> 00:20:55,344 Huh? What the hell's wrong with ya? 482 00:20:55,384 --> 00:20:56,954 That's an open hand slap, huh? 483 00:20:56,994 --> 00:20:59,524 I was always taught, man get up,you gotta knock him back down 484 00:20:59,562 --> 00:21:01,962 because if he gets up, he might hurt you. 485 00:21:01,999 --> 00:21:04,309 You think it's fake, you... 486 00:21:04,350 --> 00:21:05,660 He whacked me in the other ear. 487 00:21:05,699 --> 00:21:06,919 My ears were ringing. 488 00:21:06,961 --> 00:21:08,221 What do you mean, it's fake? 489 00:21:08,267 --> 00:21:10,697 I was stunned and a little scared, 490 00:21:10,747 --> 00:21:12,307 and that's why I crawled off. 491 00:21:12,358 --> 00:21:15,928 I didn't want to get hit again. 492 00:21:15,970 --> 00:21:18,630 [Eddy] That's why I told him,specifically, 493 00:21:18,668 --> 00:21:22,408 not to interview David Schultz.'Cause I told him, 494 00:21:22,455 --> 00:21:24,885 I said, "If you ask him stupid questions, 495 00:21:24,935 --> 00:21:28,065 you're gonna get slapped." 496 00:21:28,112 --> 00:21:30,992 [John] I was angry and stunned. 497 00:21:31,028 --> 00:21:32,808 I also thought, well, that's a clip 498 00:21:32,856 --> 00:21:37,246 we'll use at the end of our 20/20 story. 499 00:21:37,296 --> 00:21:39,206 [David] I didn't think it'd be anything. 500 00:21:39,254 --> 00:21:43,614 I figured, you slapped him for rude manners... 501 00:21:43,650 --> 00:21:47,480 like my mama would slap me if I did something wrong. 502 00:21:47,523 --> 00:21:51,443 In a minute, and not think about it. Boom! 503 00:21:51,484 --> 00:21:55,534 Moments after flooring 20/20 reporter John Stossel, 504 00:21:55,575 --> 00:21:58,185 David Schultz heads to the ring for his match with 505 00:21:58,229 --> 00:22:02,149 Japanese wrestling icon Antonio Inoki. 506 00:22:02,190 --> 00:22:04,580 He's unaware of the gravity of the situation 507 00:22:04,627 --> 00:22:07,147 developing backstage. 508 00:22:07,195 --> 00:22:10,195 Doctor's in trouble! Oh, what a move! 509 00:22:10,241 --> 00:22:12,511 Karate kick right to the side of the head. 510 00:22:12,548 --> 00:22:14,938 - It's all over! - It is all over. 511 00:22:14,985 --> 00:22:17,285 After the match, Vince said, "Just go to the hotel 'cause 512 00:22:17,336 --> 00:22:19,336 Stossel's saying he's hurt and all that. 513 00:22:19,381 --> 00:22:21,301 He's talking about pressing charges." 514 00:22:21,340 --> 00:22:24,260 "For what?" Vince said, 515 00:22:24,299 --> 00:22:26,259 "Don't even take a shower. Go on to the hotel." 516 00:22:26,301 --> 00:22:28,391 I just put my sweatpants on, sweatshirt, 517 00:22:28,434 --> 00:22:32,834 grabbed my bag and, I was gone. 518 00:22:32,873 --> 00:22:35,443 Vince had to be thinking, starting at that point, 519 00:22:35,484 --> 00:22:37,274 [Jim] "I'm gonna have to do something with Schultz or 520 00:22:37,312 --> 00:22:41,012 I'm gonna have to eliminate Schultz from the equation." 521 00:22:41,055 --> 00:22:43,745 [David] Next day I went up toStanford and seen him. 522 00:22:43,797 --> 00:22:46,497 He was telling me about the New York Athletic Commission 523 00:22:46,539 --> 00:22:49,319 suspending me and told me he's gonna pay the fine, 524 00:22:49,368 --> 00:22:50,798 he's gonna get everything straightened out, 525 00:22:50,847 --> 00:22:53,847 don't worry about it. He's gonna send me to Japan 526 00:22:53,894 --> 00:22:55,774 and we'll let this thing cool over. 527 00:22:55,809 --> 00:22:57,809 8 weeks after the incident, 528 00:22:57,854 --> 00:23:00,474 John Stossel's 20/20 report airs, 529 00:23:00,509 --> 00:23:03,509 and the wrestling community is universally outraged. 530 00:23:03,556 --> 00:23:05,466 You are trying to kill our business, 531 00:23:05,514 --> 00:23:08,134 take money away from us and our families, 532 00:23:08,169 --> 00:23:10,039 you little piss ant, John Stossel. 533 00:23:10,084 --> 00:23:12,044 That's what all the wrestlers thought about him. 534 00:23:12,086 --> 00:23:13,696 [20/20] ...Eddy to body slam me. 535 00:23:13,740 --> 00:23:15,830 But Eddy says anybody can do it. 536 00:23:15,872 --> 00:23:17,702 Eddy Mansfield, they hated him. 537 00:23:17,744 --> 00:23:19,664 It's an optical illusion. 538 00:23:19,702 --> 00:23:22,752 I had death threats, peopletrying to plant cocaine on me. 539 00:23:22,792 --> 00:23:24,792 And I knew I just had to get out of the south, 540 00:23:24,838 --> 00:23:28,408 you know, before I either wentto jail for killing somebody... 541 00:23:28,450 --> 00:23:32,450 or somebody killing me. I moved into New York. 542 00:23:32,498 --> 00:23:35,498 I had four FBI guys with me on the plane 543 00:23:35,544 --> 00:23:38,074 to make sure I got to New York safe. 544 00:23:38,112 --> 00:23:40,382 You re not messing with the promoters when you expose 545 00:23:40,419 --> 00:23:42,459 the business, you were messing with the boys. 546 00:23:42,508 --> 00:23:44,948 They fear more about what their friends and 547 00:23:44,988 --> 00:23:48,948 what their cohorts will do tothem than the penalty 548 00:23:48,992 --> 00:23:50,562 they can get from the law. 549 00:23:50,603 --> 00:23:52,043 When you look back, 550 00:23:52,082 --> 00:23:55,302 I should have just got my butt up and just left. 551 00:23:55,346 --> 00:23:59,436 If the deal feels bad, the deal is bad. 552 00:23:59,481 --> 00:24:02,531 It cost me my career. But, that's okay. 553 00:24:02,571 --> 00:24:06,971 They did me a favor. Because I'm better off today 554 00:24:07,010 --> 00:24:09,670 than I ever would have been in wrestling. 555 00:24:09,709 --> 00:24:12,319 Pro wrestling doesn't take care of the people that 556 00:24:12,363 --> 00:24:14,763 make it the money, and it never has. 557 00:24:14,801 --> 00:24:17,631 And just preaching, "Oh,you gotta protect the business. 558 00:24:17,673 --> 00:24:19,633 You gotta do this," well, why do I want 559 00:24:19,675 --> 00:24:23,845 to protect something that doesn't protect me? 560 00:24:23,897 --> 00:24:26,597 Vince McMahon sends Schultz to wrestle in Japan, 561 00:24:26,639 --> 00:24:29,339 hoping the fallout from the incident will die down. 562 00:24:29,380 --> 00:24:33,560 Instead, the controversy follows Schultz east. 563 00:24:33,602 --> 00:24:38,562 First thing they wanted me todo in Japan was hit a reporter. 564 00:24:38,607 --> 00:24:41,567 And I told them, I'm not hitting nobody unless 565 00:24:41,610 --> 00:24:44,130 you write it down as part of the script. 566 00:24:44,178 --> 00:24:45,828 And they did write it down. 567 00:24:48,008 --> 00:24:50,398 Well, they come into the dressing room, had a camera. 568 00:24:50,445 --> 00:24:54,005 I told 'em I'll just slap youupside the head, you fall down. 569 00:24:54,057 --> 00:24:55,837 Then the camera guy'll take a picture of you 570 00:24:55,885 --> 00:24:58,405 laying on the floor. And the news, 571 00:24:58,453 --> 00:25:02,333 Tokyo news saying, you know, "Dr. D comes now to Japan 572 00:25:02,370 --> 00:25:07,550 and slaps reporters like he did in New York." Hmm. 573 00:25:07,593 --> 00:25:10,773 Back at ABC News, more than 1,000 people 574 00:25:10,813 --> 00:25:14,033 call in to enquire about John Stossel's wellbeing 575 00:25:14,077 --> 00:25:17,077 after seeing his report on television. 576 00:25:17,124 --> 00:25:20,344 My ears were ringing and I had pain 577 00:25:20,388 --> 00:25:22,478 when there was a loud noise. 578 00:25:22,521 --> 00:25:24,831 My daughter was a baby at the time, 579 00:25:24,871 --> 00:25:26,611 and when she cried, it hurt my ears. 580 00:25:26,655 --> 00:25:29,005 It made it tough for me to change her diapers 581 00:25:29,049 --> 00:25:31,789 or parent well. 582 00:25:31,834 --> 00:25:35,364 I thought that McMahon and his group should be taught a 583 00:25:35,403 --> 00:25:37,933 lesson that they can't go beating up reporters. 584 00:25:37,971 --> 00:25:40,151 And, I sued for damages. 585 00:25:40,190 --> 00:25:45,200 I wanted some compensation for my pain. 586 00:25:45,239 --> 00:25:47,369 [David] What Stossel don't understand is, 587 00:25:47,415 --> 00:25:50,505 I went to his lawyer and talked to his lawyer 588 00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:53,069 before Vince ever got sued or anything else. 589 00:25:53,116 --> 00:25:55,466 My lawyer that I had at that time told me, 590 00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:58,300 "You need to go tell him the whole story and take care of 591 00:25:58,339 --> 00:26:01,039 yourself 'cause Vince is not gonna take care of you." 592 00:26:01,081 --> 00:26:04,431 At the WWF, it's clear to McMahon that 593 00:26:04,475 --> 00:26:07,385 the Stossel incident is not going away, 594 00:26:07,435 --> 00:26:10,475 and he needs Schultz to help him solve it. 595 00:26:10,525 --> 00:26:13,695 He didn't know he was gonna get sued by John Stossel, 596 00:26:13,746 --> 00:26:16,306 and when he got sued, my name wasn't in it. 597 00:26:16,357 --> 00:26:19,837 So, he was mad. 598 00:26:19,882 --> 00:26:22,622 I went by the office and that's when he wanted me to 599 00:26:22,668 --> 00:26:25,278 sign a paper saying that it was all my fault, 600 00:26:25,322 --> 00:26:28,112 I did it... under my own influence. 601 00:26:28,151 --> 00:26:30,021 Ah, no, that ain't gonna happen. 602 00:26:30,066 --> 00:26:32,676 I'm not gonna take blame for you, 603 00:26:32,721 --> 00:26:34,591 what you had me to do. 604 00:26:34,636 --> 00:26:37,896 I'll sign a paper saying I didwhat you told me to do. 605 00:26:37,944 --> 00:26:40,474 John Stossel said I hit him in both cheeks, 606 00:26:40,511 --> 00:26:42,781 in the right cheek and then the left cheek on, 607 00:26:42,818 --> 00:26:45,428 on deposition. And, anybody watches the tapes that 608 00:26:45,473 --> 00:26:50,133 got any sense can see I never hit his ears. 609 00:26:50,173 --> 00:26:53,443 While Schultz is falling out of favor at the WWF, 610 00:26:53,481 --> 00:26:56,531 Stossel's lawsuit is intensifying. 611 00:26:56,571 --> 00:26:59,661 It's part of the pretrial prep, 612 00:26:59,705 --> 00:27:04,315 you go to their doctor sotheir doctor can examine you. 613 00:27:04,361 --> 00:27:07,151 They sent me to a highfalutin guy who, 614 00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:10,240 without examining me, said, "I think you're suffering 615 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,540 from a duro somatic illness.""What?" I said. 616 00:27:13,588 --> 00:27:17,588 -"A duro somatic illness. -You're holding onto your pain 617 00:27:17,636 --> 00:27:19,416 'cause you're involved in a lawsuit." 618 00:27:19,463 --> 00:27:21,163 And I said, "Screw you! 619 00:27:21,204 --> 00:27:24,294 You're the paid lawyer for the defendants and you 620 00:27:24,338 --> 00:27:26,378 haven't even examined me and you're saying this?" 621 00:27:29,735 --> 00:27:33,865 Years later, they settled. I got $280,000. 622 00:27:33,913 --> 00:27:36,313 Do some people psychologically feel pain 623 00:27:36,350 --> 00:27:40,790 longer because of that, as this doctor claimed? 624 00:27:40,833 --> 00:27:43,663 Maybe. Maybe he was right... 625 00:27:43,705 --> 00:27:47,835 'cause, I held onto my pain, but it gradually did go away 626 00:27:47,883 --> 00:27:49,713 when I got paid. 627 00:27:49,755 --> 00:27:53,495 ♪ 628 00:27:58,328 --> 00:28:01,768 As the blowback from the 20/20 piece dissipates, 629 00:28:01,810 --> 00:28:03,730 McMahon focuses on the launch of 630 00:28:03,769 --> 00:28:05,899 his biggest event yet. 631 00:28:05,945 --> 00:28:08,555 Vince's concept for WrestleMania was the biggest 632 00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:11,079 wrestling event ever held, times ten, 633 00:28:11,124 --> 00:28:13,264 an over-the-top, closed-circuit... 634 00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:15,910 globally broadcast extravaganza that would 635 00:28:15,955 --> 00:28:18,955 combine celebrities and wrestling matches. 636 00:28:19,001 --> 00:28:22,401 Looking to appeal to the widest possible audience, 637 00:28:22,439 --> 00:28:25,439 McMahon adds a Hollywood actor to the roster, 638 00:28:25,486 --> 00:28:28,006 and puts him at the top of the card. 639 00:28:28,054 --> 00:28:30,934 Mr. T was one of the biggesttelevision stars in the country. 640 00:28:30,970 --> 00:28:32,800 In 1985, he'd been a star of 641 00:28:32,841 --> 00:28:35,101 The A Team with George Peppard. 642 00:28:35,148 --> 00:28:38,758 - You want him? - No, you take him. 643 00:28:38,804 --> 00:28:40,764 He's working with Sylvester Stallone. 644 00:28:40,806 --> 00:28:41,886 Dead meat. 645 00:28:41,937 --> 00:28:44,067 He had a great body, and a mohawk, 646 00:28:44,113 --> 00:28:45,463 and he wore the chains. 647 00:28:45,506 --> 00:28:47,116 But he looked the part and he talked the part, 648 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,770 and could make people believe he was the part. 649 00:28:48,814 --> 00:28:50,294 Been teaching me how to pump iron, 650 00:28:50,337 --> 00:28:52,297 get my pythons ready, and I'mglad you brought me here. 651 00:28:52,339 --> 00:28:56,339 The WWF positions Hulk Hogan and Mr. T front and center 652 00:28:56,386 --> 00:28:58,346 in their nationwide promotion. 653 00:28:58,388 --> 00:29:01,518 But Schultz's name is missing entirely. 654 00:29:01,565 --> 00:29:04,045 I didn't think Mr. T should be coming in to go in a 655 00:29:04,090 --> 00:29:07,010 wrestling match when he's never wrestled or anything. 656 00:29:07,049 --> 00:29:10,399 And pay him more than he pays any of his wrestlers. 657 00:29:10,444 --> 00:29:11,794 I said, "That's a joke. 658 00:29:11,837 --> 00:29:14,227 You're putting T into WrestleMania I? 659 00:29:14,274 --> 00:29:17,234 What about me? Where you putting me?" 660 00:29:17,277 --> 00:29:20,367 Schultz watches on as buzz around WrestleMania 661 00:29:20,410 --> 00:29:22,060 grows bigger by the day. 662 00:29:22,108 --> 00:29:24,678 At a WWF event in Los Angeles, 663 00:29:24,719 --> 00:29:28,419 tensions backstage escalate even further. 664 00:29:28,462 --> 00:29:31,552 Mr. T and some of his Hollywood friends were there 665 00:29:31,595 --> 00:29:34,465 to see the matches and I'm sure he was being treated as 666 00:29:34,511 --> 00:29:37,731 a guest, and just beingallowed the run of the place. 667 00:29:37,776 --> 00:29:41,946 I believe that Schultz genuinely resented 668 00:29:41,997 --> 00:29:44,867 T's presence there and didn'twant him in the locker room 669 00:29:44,913 --> 00:29:46,573 'cause that was reserved for the boys. 670 00:29:46,610 --> 00:29:47,740 That was a sanctuary. 671 00:29:51,137 --> 00:29:54,967 No. Mr. T was in the hallway talking to me that night. 672 00:29:55,010 --> 00:29:57,840 Jay Strongbow was the agent on the job. 673 00:29:57,883 --> 00:30:00,153 He come out, seen him in the hallway with me. 674 00:30:00,189 --> 00:30:02,239 He said, "David, Vince had told me, 675 00:30:02,278 --> 00:30:06,758 if you was gonna go out thereand bother Mr. T to fire you." 676 00:30:06,805 --> 00:30:08,545 "Well, you better fire me then." 677 00:30:08,589 --> 00:30:11,979 He said, "Okay, you're fired." 678 00:30:12,027 --> 00:30:15,727 I get dressed and go down to the ring to watch the match. 679 00:30:15,770 --> 00:30:18,160 I was just going out to see Toru Tanaka. 680 00:30:18,207 --> 00:30:20,427 Good friend of mine. He's sitting with Mr. T. 681 00:30:20,470 --> 00:30:22,910 So, I went to the ringside and the cops come up, 682 00:30:22,951 --> 00:30:26,091 and Jay Strongbow called the cops and told 'em that I was 683 00:30:26,128 --> 00:30:29,738 a fairly dangerous guy and I was about to hurt somebody 684 00:30:29,784 --> 00:30:33,884 out there and they needed to get me out of there. 685 00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:35,179 They hog-tied me. 686 00:30:35,224 --> 00:30:37,184 Hands handcuffed behind my back, 687 00:30:37,226 --> 00:30:38,576 flat on my stomach, 688 00:30:38,619 --> 00:30:41,359 feet shackled and tied to my hands. 689 00:30:41,404 --> 00:30:45,504 And then two cops take guns and put 'em to my head 690 00:30:45,539 --> 00:30:49,719 on each side and threw me out the back door. 691 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,150 [Jim] Vince, he had to be thinking, "What the fuck? 692 00:30:52,198 --> 00:30:54,068 I gotta calm these guys down." 693 00:30:54,113 --> 00:30:55,853 That was the fucking atmosphere. 694 00:30:55,897 --> 00:30:58,897 They didn't relate well with outsiders at that point. 695 00:30:58,944 --> 00:31:01,214 Vince had to get rid of Schultz because it was 696 00:31:01,250 --> 00:31:03,340 only gonna get worse. 697 00:31:03,383 --> 00:31:05,953 [David] When I got back to Connecticut, 698 00:31:05,994 --> 00:31:07,604 I checked with Vince and he said, 699 00:31:07,648 --> 00:31:09,258 "I'm gonna have to check with Jay Strongbow and 700 00:31:09,302 --> 00:31:11,702 find out what happened." He knew what happened. 701 00:31:11,739 --> 00:31:13,389 And, my lawyer wrote him a letter, 702 00:31:13,436 --> 00:31:15,736 told him I was ready to go backto work, and they said, 703 00:31:15,786 --> 00:31:20,136 "No, Mr. Schultz will not work for us no more, ever." 704 00:31:20,182 --> 00:31:24,012 In 2019, Hulk Hogan came forward with a completely 705 00:31:24,056 --> 00:31:28,226 different recollection of the incident with Mr. T. 706 00:31:28,277 --> 00:31:30,847 Out of nowhere, I had T sitting ringside 'cause 707 00:31:30,889 --> 00:31:32,759 he's a friend of mine and Ididn't know what was going on. 708 00:31:32,803 --> 00:31:34,683 David rolled out of the ring and bitch slapped the 709 00:31:34,718 --> 00:31:36,898 hell out of him, just out of nowhere. 710 00:31:36,938 --> 00:31:38,718 A huge slap. 711 00:31:38,766 --> 00:31:40,376 And, after that, he was pretty much done. 712 00:31:40,420 --> 00:31:42,990 Vince was so pissed at him, that pretty much was 713 00:31:43,031 --> 00:31:46,861 the bullet that did him in. 714 00:31:46,905 --> 00:31:49,465 Most people know who that is, Dr. D. 715 00:31:49,516 --> 00:31:54,086 And I guess you know Hogan. Oh, big head Hogan. 716 00:31:54,129 --> 00:31:57,309 Boy, he used to hate for me totell him he had a big head. 717 00:31:57,350 --> 00:31:59,400 And now he don't have no hair at all. 718 00:32:02,050 --> 00:32:06,880 Ah... "old friend forgot his name". 719 00:32:06,925 --> 00:32:10,185 So, I don't know if Stossel had anything to do 720 00:32:10,232 --> 00:32:12,022 with my getting fired. 721 00:32:12,060 --> 00:32:13,890 They said it was because of Mr. T. 722 00:32:13,932 --> 00:32:15,632 Well, that's a bunch of crap. 723 00:32:15,672 --> 00:32:18,152 And then, you know, to beat all of that is, 724 00:32:18,197 --> 00:32:20,627 Hogan went within a few weeks after that 725 00:32:20,677 --> 00:32:22,417 and dropped Belzer... 726 00:32:22,462 --> 00:32:25,902 - Mr. Hulk Hogan. - [cheering] 727 00:32:25,944 --> 00:32:28,514 One of the publicity appearancesthat they had arranged 728 00:32:28,555 --> 00:32:31,595 for Hulk Hogan and Mr. T to build up for WrestleMania 729 00:32:31,645 --> 00:32:33,775 was an appearance on The Richard Belzer Show. 730 00:32:33,821 --> 00:32:36,561 There's a thing that the boysused to do with a reporter, 731 00:32:36,606 --> 00:32:39,776 or a photographer, or somebody from the public. 732 00:32:39,827 --> 00:32:41,257 Now, the first thing you need to know 733 00:32:41,307 --> 00:32:43,827 about amateur wrestling... Or professional wrestling. 734 00:32:43,874 --> 00:32:45,014 You just tell me, brother, when you want him 735 00:32:45,050 --> 00:32:46,830 to quit squealing, okay? 736 00:32:46,877 --> 00:32:48,787 Let me just put one hold on you and just show you 737 00:32:48,836 --> 00:32:51,006 what it feels like, what we go through. 738 00:32:51,056 --> 00:32:52,316 How about it, T? 739 00:32:52,361 --> 00:32:53,881 [Mr. T] Keep him like that for a little while. 740 00:32:53,928 --> 00:32:55,278 [Audience] [laughs] 741 00:32:55,321 --> 00:32:57,851 Put him in a sleeper. I mean, choked him. 742 00:32:57,888 --> 00:33:00,668 [Audience] [laughs] 743 00:33:00,717 --> 00:33:02,107 Oh! 744 00:33:02,154 --> 00:33:04,594 And he passed out, dropped him on the floor, 745 00:33:04,634 --> 00:33:06,644 and he busted his head. 746 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,380 [Mr. T] He's alright. He just sleeping. 747 00:33:08,421 --> 00:33:09,551 He's sleeping. 748 00:33:09,596 --> 00:33:12,686 Huh? Hogan didn't get nothing out of it. 749 00:33:12,729 --> 00:33:14,729 We feel real bad about the incident that just happened. 750 00:33:14,775 --> 00:33:16,335 When somebody asks me to show them a 751 00:33:16,385 --> 00:33:18,035 professional wrestling hold,especially when they sit here 752 00:33:18,083 --> 00:33:20,523 and laugh in my face when I'm talking to him, 753 00:33:20,563 --> 00:33:22,913 I just showed him the simplesthold that I knew and I thought-- 754 00:33:22,957 --> 00:33:24,217 [Jim] There was a settlement. 755 00:33:24,263 --> 00:33:26,743 I'm sure Vince probably paid it at that point. 756 00:33:26,787 --> 00:33:28,747 Number one, Vince McMahon wasn't gonna fire Hulk Hogan 757 00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:30,919 even if he'd just shot Richard Belzer in the head. 758 00:33:30,965 --> 00:33:32,355 Hogan was the golden child. 759 00:33:38,973 --> 00:33:40,983 Oh, yeah, yeah. We was close. 760 00:33:41,019 --> 00:33:42,279 We was very close. 761 00:33:42,324 --> 00:33:43,764 Probably one of the best friends I ever had in 762 00:33:43,804 --> 00:33:46,294 the business until he turned his back on me. 763 00:33:46,328 --> 00:33:48,238 [Announcer] Hulk Hogan! 764 00:33:48,287 --> 00:33:49,767 [David] Then all of a sudden,he, you know, 765 00:33:49,810 --> 00:33:53,070 he's with Vince and it's like,"Hey, I can't talk to you. 766 00:33:53,118 --> 00:33:55,638 Can't deal with you. You're on your own. Don't--" 767 00:33:55,685 --> 00:33:58,645 You know, and I ain't talked to him since. 768 00:33:58,688 --> 00:34:01,038 As Hogan becomes a household name, 769 00:34:01,082 --> 00:34:03,652 Schultz's star fades away. 770 00:34:03,693 --> 00:34:07,393 He tries to find steady work in the smaller territories, 771 00:34:07,436 --> 00:34:10,476 but believes he's being blackballed by the industry. 772 00:34:10,526 --> 00:34:11,696 They called me back and said, 773 00:34:11,745 --> 00:34:12,955 "Nobody wants to sign a contract with you! 774 00:34:13,007 --> 00:34:15,097 You're too mean! You're too bad!" 775 00:34:15,140 --> 00:34:17,270 Everybody I called, theydidn't even want to talk to me, 776 00:34:17,316 --> 00:34:19,706 the promoters, because of Vince. 777 00:34:19,753 --> 00:34:22,103 You know, he told him, "Eh, you use him, 778 00:34:22,147 --> 00:34:25,277 I'm through with you. Don't call me for nothing, ever." 779 00:34:25,324 --> 00:34:28,334 [sighs] Yeah, it was a hardship, 780 00:34:28,370 --> 00:34:30,110 but I worked through it. 781 00:34:30,155 --> 00:34:33,195 I kept working independent for a year or two, 782 00:34:33,245 --> 00:34:35,675 and then I became theworld's greatest bounty hunter. 783 00:34:35,725 --> 00:34:37,075 Mm! 784 00:34:37,118 --> 00:34:38,768 Open the door, right now. 785 00:34:38,815 --> 00:34:40,635 What happens when wrestling's most notorious 786 00:34:40,687 --> 00:34:44,127 bad guy becomes a real-life gun for hire? 787 00:34:44,169 --> 00:34:46,039 "Dr. D" David Schultz, the world's greatest 788 00:34:46,084 --> 00:34:48,704 bounty hunter is coming to a screen near you. 789 00:34:48,738 --> 00:34:50,738 ♪ 790 00:34:55,702 --> 00:34:57,972 Exiled from wrestling and desperate for cash, 791 00:34:58,008 --> 00:35:00,448 David Schultz is introduced to the dangerous world of 792 00:35:00,489 --> 00:35:03,709 bounty hunting by a friend in law enforcement. 793 00:35:03,753 --> 00:35:06,763 He told me, "I'll introduce you to the bondsman, 794 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,540 and what you do is, you go pick 'em up, 795 00:35:08,584 --> 00:35:10,984 you get the paperwork and you bring 'em in, 796 00:35:11,021 --> 00:35:13,501 you get paid. 10% of the bond." 797 00:35:13,546 --> 00:35:15,416 Oh, okay. That sounds good, yeah. 798 00:35:15,461 --> 00:35:17,901 250,000. Yeah, that's a nice one. 799 00:35:17,941 --> 00:35:19,901 And they had nobody doing it at that time. 800 00:35:19,943 --> 00:35:22,643 I went in. They told me they had this one guy, 801 00:35:22,685 --> 00:35:25,375 motorcycle guy, bad guy, nobody wanted to go get him, 802 00:35:25,427 --> 00:35:27,037 and they needed to get him in. 803 00:35:27,081 --> 00:35:28,781 Well, the next morning I brought him in. 804 00:35:28,822 --> 00:35:31,092 Coming around the corner, I put a 9 mm in his mouth, 805 00:35:31,129 --> 00:35:33,309 and he wasn't bad at all. He went right to the ground, 806 00:35:33,348 --> 00:35:35,518 handcuffed him, took him to jail. 807 00:35:35,568 --> 00:35:38,828 And I said, "Wow, this is pretty easy right here now." 808 00:35:38,875 --> 00:35:41,655 When you're a pro wrestler as long as I was, 809 00:35:41,704 --> 00:35:44,584 every day you got your hands on a man. 810 00:35:44,620 --> 00:35:46,360 Every day you've got a man's arm, 811 00:35:46,405 --> 00:35:47,615 you've got a man's wrist. 812 00:35:47,667 --> 00:35:50,447 You know what hurts, what not. 813 00:35:50,496 --> 00:35:53,186 How to hook him, how to take him down because 814 00:35:53,238 --> 00:35:55,068 you do it every day. 815 00:35:55,109 --> 00:35:56,629 Alright, get your hands on the car, okay. 816 00:35:56,676 --> 00:35:59,716 And, it's not strange to you and it don't bother you to 817 00:35:59,766 --> 00:36:03,116 grab a guy and he don't know what's happening it to him. 818 00:36:03,161 --> 00:36:04,991 Have my brother call Tony. 819 00:36:05,032 --> 00:36:08,512 Schultz takes to the job like he was born to do it. 820 00:36:08,557 --> 00:36:11,127 He soon develops a reputation as one of the 821 00:36:11,169 --> 00:36:14,079 most reliable bounty hunters in America. 822 00:36:14,128 --> 00:36:15,778 And the only way you're gonna get away from the 823 00:36:15,825 --> 00:36:18,085 Doctor is when you come out of that house and you see me 824 00:36:18,132 --> 00:36:21,092 standing out there, you better take off running. 825 00:36:21,135 --> 00:36:22,915 My job takes me where the criminal goes. 826 00:36:22,963 --> 00:36:24,363 Wherever he goes, I go. 827 00:36:24,399 --> 00:36:25,839 It may take me to Saudi Arabia. 828 00:36:25,879 --> 00:36:27,269 Wherever he goes, I'm gonna follow. 829 00:36:27,315 --> 00:36:28,525 I'm gonna be right on him. 830 00:36:28,577 --> 00:36:30,357 All the bondsmen started calling me. 831 00:36:30,405 --> 00:36:32,185 I had more work than I could do. 832 00:36:32,233 --> 00:36:33,843 If you found him, you got paid. 833 00:36:33,887 --> 00:36:35,537 If you didn't, you didn't. 834 00:36:35,584 --> 00:36:38,594 Fucking people, man. They hide everywhere. 835 00:36:38,631 --> 00:36:40,891 But you got all kind of 'em, man. 836 00:36:40,937 --> 00:36:43,067 You got all kind of 'em. You got hookers. 837 00:36:43,113 --> 00:36:45,123 You got drug dealers. 838 00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:48,249 But everybody out on the streets knew me as Dr. D. 839 00:36:48,293 --> 00:36:49,773 You know, when people know you, 840 00:36:49,816 --> 00:36:51,946 it's a lot easier to get into their house, 841 00:36:51,992 --> 00:36:54,522 or they'll open the door for you or whatever. 842 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,480 Dr. D, David Schultz, buddy. 843 00:36:57,519 --> 00:36:58,829 That's the one that beat the shit, 844 00:36:58,868 --> 00:37:01,478 I heard, down at Rivero. 845 00:37:01,523 --> 00:37:04,183 Yeah, I feel good going in with you. 846 00:37:04,613 --> 00:37:09,533 [indistinct speaking] 847 00:37:09,575 --> 00:37:12,265 We're coming to your home, your living room, 848 00:37:12,317 --> 00:37:15,927 and it's gonna be true, live, actual footage. 849 00:37:15,972 --> 00:37:18,672 No more make believe. It's all over. 850 00:37:18,714 --> 00:37:20,984 I'll be there soon. 851 00:37:25,504 --> 00:37:28,464 Well, the best one was when I picked up the two girls 852 00:37:28,507 --> 00:37:31,287 that was kidnapped by this piece of garbage. 853 00:37:31,336 --> 00:37:34,636 And, three years, they couldn'tfind him, the FBI. 854 00:37:34,687 --> 00:37:37,467 The two girls got kidnapped -14, 15 years old 855 00:37:37,516 --> 00:37:38,726 when he took off with him. 856 00:37:38,778 --> 00:37:40,348 They said when he left the house, 857 00:37:40,388 --> 00:37:44,998 he would chain 'em around the commode. 858 00:37:45,045 --> 00:37:46,785 And the only way they could drink water was 859 00:37:46,829 --> 00:37:48,919 out of the commode while he was gone. 860 00:37:48,962 --> 00:37:51,232 I mean, this guy was a sicko, you know. 861 00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:54,659 I found him in Puerto Rico, and I walked in the bar and 862 00:37:54,707 --> 00:37:56,877 he was sitting at the bar. 863 00:37:56,926 --> 00:37:59,446 The two girls was stripping onstage, 864 00:37:59,494 --> 00:38:01,244 and they had a baby in the back room, 865 00:38:01,279 --> 00:38:04,329 two Dobermans living back there with her. 866 00:38:04,369 --> 00:38:07,019 And I said, "Hey, Larry. "Dr. D" David Schultz, 867 00:38:07,067 --> 00:38:09,767 bail enforcement agent, you're under arrest." 868 00:38:09,809 --> 00:38:12,119 And he jumped off the bar, run around the side. 869 00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:14,069 I slid over top of the bar, and he was going 870 00:38:14,117 --> 00:38:16,857 out the back door. And, two Puerto Rican 871 00:38:16,903 --> 00:38:20,393 policemen pulled down on him with shot guns. 872 00:38:20,428 --> 00:38:21,948 I jumped on him, handcuffed him, 873 00:38:21,995 --> 00:38:24,775 and took him outside, throwed him in the car. 874 00:38:24,824 --> 00:38:27,704 We ended up with two girls, two dogs, a baby... 875 00:38:27,740 --> 00:38:30,530 [laughs] We had a whole group, man. 876 00:38:30,569 --> 00:38:33,269 But, I got 'em back home and, 877 00:38:33,311 --> 00:38:34,881 I guess they're doing great today. 878 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,620 Oh, yeah. All the time. All the time. 879 00:38:39,665 --> 00:38:42,485 You just gotta be careful because, 880 00:38:42,537 --> 00:38:45,317 let me tell you, one mistake is your last one. 881 00:38:45,366 --> 00:38:47,586 While the former wrestler is risking his life 882 00:38:47,629 --> 00:38:50,809 in the streets, his old boss Vince McMahon 883 00:38:50,850 --> 00:38:52,590 drops a major bombshell. 884 00:38:52,634 --> 00:38:55,294 State legislatures are being urged by the biggest of 885 00:38:55,333 --> 00:38:58,123 all wrestling promoters to think the unthinkable, 886 00:38:58,161 --> 00:39:00,771 to declare that pro wrestlingis not a sport at all, 887 00:39:00,816 --> 00:39:03,246 but an entertainment whose outcome is actually 888 00:39:03,297 --> 00:39:05,387 known before the battle begins. 889 00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:08,000 In an ironic twist, McMahon is attempting to 890 00:39:08,041 --> 00:39:10,351 lift the veil on the very thing Schultz 891 00:39:10,391 --> 00:39:12,921 became infamous for protecting. 892 00:39:12,959 --> 00:39:15,439 Vince McMahon went to the athletic department, 893 00:39:15,483 --> 00:39:20,583 Baltimore, and told 'em, "Hey, it's entertainment. 894 00:39:20,619 --> 00:39:22,799 It's not a sport. It's entertainment." 895 00:39:22,838 --> 00:39:24,748 Yeah, he exposed the whole business. 896 00:39:24,797 --> 00:39:27,187 ♪ 897 00:39:32,108 --> 00:39:35,108 Four years after the inaugural WrestleMania, 898 00:39:35,155 --> 00:39:38,195 Vince McMahon's gamble has more than paid off, 899 00:39:38,245 --> 00:39:42,075 but to increase profits, he aims to change the rules 900 00:39:42,118 --> 00:39:44,598 around how wrestling is regulated. 901 00:39:44,643 --> 00:39:48,733 Those commissions wouldlicense promoters and wrestlers, 902 00:39:48,777 --> 00:39:50,947 and take tax cut for the right 903 00:39:50,997 --> 00:39:53,037 to hold that event in their state. 904 00:39:53,086 --> 00:39:54,956 It might be 5 or 6% of the gates. 905 00:39:55,001 --> 00:39:57,871 Some states, maybe up to 10%. 906 00:39:57,917 --> 00:40:02,177 It is now official: wrestling isnot really wrestling. 907 00:40:02,225 --> 00:40:04,615 Wrestling promoters have told their secrets in an 908 00:40:04,663 --> 00:40:06,753 attempt to free themselves from the half nelson 909 00:40:06,795 --> 00:40:07,965 of government regulation. 910 00:40:08,014 --> 00:40:10,194 We shouldn't be governed by a state body 911 00:40:10,233 --> 00:40:12,713 unless you re gonna license Broadway. 912 00:40:12,758 --> 00:40:15,148 That was the comparison: it's a show. 913 00:40:15,195 --> 00:40:17,455 When Vince McMahon came out and said 914 00:40:17,502 --> 00:40:21,332 it was entertainment, he justified what I said... 915 00:40:21,375 --> 00:40:25,245 -you understand? -Kayfabe! That's a bunch of crap. 916 00:40:25,292 --> 00:40:29,472 I mean, what idiot came up with that? 917 00:40:29,514 --> 00:40:32,604 Four years after McMahon makes his appeal 918 00:40:32,647 --> 00:40:35,347 to the state senate, New Jersey finally 919 00:40:35,389 --> 00:40:38,439 frees the WWF from regulation. 920 00:40:38,479 --> 00:40:41,179 For Vince McMahon, it's all part of the show. 921 00:40:41,221 --> 00:40:44,181 I did watch it with my son who is a very big fan, 922 00:40:44,224 --> 00:40:45,664 and we bought all the figures, 923 00:40:45,704 --> 00:40:48,754 and I understand what adifference it makes to people. 924 00:40:48,794 --> 00:40:52,324 Many other states, eager for the WWF's business, 925 00:40:52,362 --> 00:40:55,192 follow New Jersey's lead and deregulate 926 00:40:55,235 --> 00:40:59,145 what McMahon now calls "sports entertainment". 927 00:40:59,195 --> 00:41:00,715 Stossel was set up. 928 00:41:00,762 --> 00:41:04,902 And, Eddy Mansfield had everybody set up. 929 00:41:04,940 --> 00:41:07,200 He went and sold his soul out. 930 00:41:07,247 --> 00:41:10,767 I gave my whole career up because of these people. 931 00:41:10,816 --> 00:41:15,116 [Off-screen] Do you or, willyou ever forgive John Stossel? 932 00:41:15,168 --> 00:41:17,558 It's really not for me to forgive, 933 00:41:17,605 --> 00:41:21,035 It's Gods' job to forgive him. 934 00:41:21,087 --> 00:41:23,567 And I'm not God. 935 00:41:27,572 --> 00:41:29,922 What am I doing now? Well, starting next week, 936 00:41:29,965 --> 00:41:32,185 I'll be driving a tractor trailer, 18-wheeler, 937 00:41:32,228 --> 00:41:35,138 hauling cotton from the gin to the warehouses. 938 00:41:35,188 --> 00:41:37,888 I'll do that about three months, four months. 939 00:41:37,930 --> 00:41:39,890 I work from sun up to sun down, 940 00:41:39,932 --> 00:41:42,592 and then during the night. 941 00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:44,590 [Jim] There's two ways that David Schultz's career 942 00:41:44,632 --> 00:41:46,502 in wrestling could have gone. 943 00:41:46,547 --> 00:41:49,027 One, he would have made a ton of money in the WWF 944 00:41:49,071 --> 00:41:50,551 'cause he would've been a big star there 945 00:41:50,595 --> 00:41:54,415 for quite some time. Or, David being David, 946 00:41:54,468 --> 00:41:57,598 as Vince McMahon got more cartoony, 947 00:41:57,645 --> 00:42:00,335 more showbiz, David would have found something else 948 00:42:00,387 --> 00:42:02,907 to blow up about and somethingwould have happened, 949 00:42:02,955 --> 00:42:05,345 which is probably more likely. 950 00:42:05,392 --> 00:42:07,352 I want you, Hogan. Where you at, boy? 951 00:42:07,394 --> 00:42:11,274 Vince McMahon also wanted to bethe Walt Disney of wrestling. 952 00:42:11,311 --> 00:42:14,141 No way are we gonna compete with those clowns. 953 00:42:14,183 --> 00:42:17,583 He wanted to be more clean, more family oriented. 954 00:42:17,622 --> 00:42:19,542 A show that he could take on the road. 955 00:42:19,580 --> 00:42:22,370 So, some went with him and trusted that vision and 956 00:42:22,409 --> 00:42:24,589 got their pictures on ice cream bars. 957 00:42:24,629 --> 00:42:26,629 Boy, it sure is good. You ought a try one. 958 00:42:26,674 --> 00:42:29,164 I have about two every day. Mm-mm! 959 00:42:29,198 --> 00:42:31,108 Problem was with Schultz, he had a guy that was 960 00:42:31,157 --> 00:42:33,587 tougher than a waffle house steak and 961 00:42:33,638 --> 00:42:34,938 didn't like to be pushed around. 962 00:42:38,773 --> 00:42:41,693 I think if you treated David as a human being and 963 00:42:41,733 --> 00:42:45,483 respected him as a professional athlete... 964 00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:47,219 you could control anybody. 965 00:42:47,260 --> 00:42:49,570 I don't think that's the problem with David. 966 00:42:49,610 --> 00:42:53,010 I think it's being disrespected. 967 00:42:53,048 --> 00:42:55,658 And I, I think that was all of our problems. 968 00:42:55,703 --> 00:42:57,533 You think it's fake? 969 00:42:57,575 --> 00:43:00,835 It's still annoying that I've done a million pieces, 970 00:43:00,882 --> 00:43:03,062 that people still come up and say, 971 00:43:03,102 --> 00:43:05,712 "Oh! Aren't you the guy who gotwhacked by the wrestler?" 972 00:43:05,757 --> 00:43:10,067 On YouTube it's probably my second most watched video. 973 00:43:10,109 --> 00:43:11,549 [David] I've become immortal. 974 00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:13,589 People are gonna talk about mewhen I'm dead and gone. 975 00:43:13,634 --> 00:43:15,644 "Oh, yeah, we remember that guy. 976 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,640 He slapped the hell out of that reporter, 977 00:43:17,682 --> 00:43:19,212 Dr. D, David Schultz." 978 00:43:19,248 --> 00:43:21,988 And I've offered to go face to face with him, 979 00:43:22,034 --> 00:43:23,344 let's straighten this thing out, 980 00:43:23,383 --> 00:43:24,863 John Stossel and me. 981 00:43:24,906 --> 00:43:27,816 -And don't worry, John Stossel, -I'm not gonna hurt you, boy. 982 00:43:33,436 --> 00:43:36,136 Fuck you, David! 983 00:43:36,178 --> 00:43:38,748 Understand, I stood up for wrestling. 984 00:43:38,790 --> 00:43:42,920 And, it don't really bother mewhat people think about me. 985 00:43:42,968 --> 00:43:45,008 I really don't care, you know. 986 00:43:45,057 --> 00:43:47,967 They can think anything they want. I don't care. 987 00:43:48,016 --> 00:43:50,016 And I'll tell 'em 988 00:43:50,062 --> 00:43:53,022 I don't care. 989 00:43:53,065 --> 00:43:54,845 Mm! 80229

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