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Don't let people see you out
there signing autographs,
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all these little
kids and stuff.
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They say, "Oh,
you're not a bad guy."
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You want them to
think you're the baddest,
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meanest bastard to
ever walk the street.
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And that's the way
you're gonna make money.
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[Announcer]
"Dr. D" David Schultz!
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[Narrator] In the early 80s, there were few better at
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playing the villain than
"Dr. D" David Schultz.
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Now what's wrong with you?
Are you crazy?
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Come out here and try to
make a fool out of me!
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Get the camera out of here!
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He was big enough and mean
enough to get his own way.
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Get down and fight, baby!
Get down!
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At the same time, he was
a tremendous performer.
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He was destined to
become one of
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World Wrestling Federation's most notorious stars.
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I come to the WWF, baby.
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They hated me,
but they loved me.
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They loved to hate me.
[laughs]
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I'm the guy that went to schoolwith you people out there,
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when you was growing up,
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and took your
lunch money from you.
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That was my job, to be bad,
and I could back it up.
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But one fateful encounter
in New York would
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destroy his career
in an instant.
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To make sure that nobody
knew the secrets
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inside the locker room.
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- Standard questions.
- I think this is fake.
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What's your response
to the people
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who point out that this is fake?
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You think it's fake?
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Holy shit! What the hell
just happened here?
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In an era when wrestlers
lived by an honor code of
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protecting the business, no one took it more to heart
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than David Schultz,
and one single action
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cost him everything.
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They called me back and said,
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"Nobody wants to sign a
contract with you!
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You're too mean!
You're too bad!"
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I'm anything but fake.
I'm an entertainer.
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Con man. Whatever.
I am not a fake.
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♪
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For most of the
20th century,
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professional wrestling
was a closed society,
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where the rules of the game
were never revealed
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to the paying public.
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Wrestlers lived by a secret
code that maintained the
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illusion of good and evil
in the squared circle.
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Make the fights look real,
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even if the matches are
predetermined.
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But at the dawn of a
pro-wrestling revolution,
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the old traditions were
changing faster than
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some performers
could keep up with.
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♪
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Okay, this is one of
my storage units here.
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Oh, yeah!
Here we go, baby.
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Just come on in.
Bring yourself on in here.
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Watch your step.
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Watch the spiders and
the snakes, and all that.
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Here's a card
that I used to use.
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It said, "You've just been
patronized by the
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world's greatest pro wrestler."
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[off-screen] Where's this
thing come from?
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[David] I don't know how theyget it to look so lively,
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you know, just like me.
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This bag, here, has got
some very special items.
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One of 'em is a stun gun,
and you take this and
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you pull it back here...
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and when you
hold it on the guy,
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you just tell him,
"You're under arrest.
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Get your hands up.
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If you don't obey,
I'm gonna shoot you."
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And they say, "Hey, man..."
Boom.
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I'm "Dr. D" David Schultz,
probably the greatest
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pro wrestler of all time,
in my opinion.
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You know, about '72, '73, I waswatching wrestling on TV
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one time and I said,
"Well, this is not hard."
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So, I went by to
see Herb Welch.
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This one right
here is Herb Welch,
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the one that trained me.
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"Herb Welch, How to
Become a Champion".
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Herb Welch had been one of
the biggest wrestling stars
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in the south, from the time
of the Depression
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through the 1950s.
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He had learned from the,
the pioneers,
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the original pro wrestlers thatcame from the carnivals.
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It was the last place in the
country that you could go
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to literally learn from a
guy who was there at the
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formation of organized
professional wrestling.
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I'm Jim Cornette,
and for nearly 40 years,
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I've been a promoter,
a match maker, announcer,
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manager, and a historian
in professional wrestling.
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[David] He lived in Dyersburg.
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I went out there and
pulled the truck over.
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And, he come
out on the porch,
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and we sat there
and talked a while.
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And he said,
"Yeah, I'll train you.
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When you want to start?"
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[Jim] His method of training wasto take these guys into
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his barn on his farm and
beat the piss out of them.
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Herb Welch was such a salty,
mean old bastard that
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he would go in a locker room
and he would take a dump,
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and he would take a handful
of it and he would rub it
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in his armpit, and then
when he got out there,
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the first thing he'd do is
he'd lock up with a guy and
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grab a headlock and start
grinding that head as
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hard as he could until
the guy was screaming,
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"Please, let me go!
I'll do anything you want!
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Please, let me go!"
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They was trying to hurt me, see:"Can you be one of us?
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Are you capable
of doing this?"
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I'd already gotten in pretty
good shape after about
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a month and a half,
two months.
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He was getting wrestlers tostop by and work out with me,
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and these boys told
Herb, said,
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"You gotta do something
with this kid, man.
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We can't handle him.
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We do something to him,
he fights back."
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[Jim] Herb Welch sat David
Schultz down then and said,
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"You've got what it takes
to make it in this business.
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Now we're gonna have
to smarten you up, son."
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[David ] He said, "Well,
you're hurting everybody.
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You re too damn stiff."
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Well, he had never
told me any different.
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I thought you was
fighting for your life.
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I thought it was real.
I thought it was 100% real.
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[Jim] The training that DavidSchultz got from Herb Welch
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centered on one thing:
it's the world of kayfabe.
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[David] Kayfabe means you
don't be seen together,
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right after you had a
bad match out here,
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blood and guts and
everything, and then,
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10 miles down the road
they catch you at
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Shoney's eating together.
No.
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That's supposed to be
your enemy back then.
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[Jim] Continuing the aura
that wrestling and
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the people in it are real.
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Those are the
secrets of wrestling.
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Protect the business.
Don't spill the secrets.
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You're in a secret society.
This is our world.
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It was like
being in the mafia.
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Well, you need to
learn how to work.
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The holds, and the moves,
and the timing.
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[Announcer] Oh!
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Know what's gonna
make the people mad.
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Why, I almost killed that Andrethe Giant with my bare hands.
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Know what's gonna
make 'em feel good.
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The Doctor got funky,
dang it. I got funky.
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David Schultz found success
in wrestling just being
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David Schultz turned upto 20, is this crazy, you know,
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redneck hillbilly
from Tennessee.
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You think you a man!
You ain't nothing, boy!
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Through it all, Schultz did
what he was trained to do:
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never break kayfabe.
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A lot of the boys thought
I was the meanest,
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baddest they ever seen
because I made 'em
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work hard in the ring.
Hogan was one of 'em.
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[Promo] This man is not a
television illusion.
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He is not an
artist conception.
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He is not a figment
of the imagination.
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He is The Hulk!
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In the late 1970s,
Hulk Hogan is an
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up and coming wrestler from
Augusta, Georgia.
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He first crossed paths
with Schultz
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working the Florida circuit.
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I thought he was just a big
'ol body builder that wanted
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to get in the business,
and he was.
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He had no money,
he had nothing.
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He was living in a van and,
I let him come into
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my apartment with me and
share my apartment with me
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in Pensacola.
We become real good friends.
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The two are
natural adversaries,
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and it's not long before
their epic confrontations
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attract the attention of
Vince McMahon,
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whose World Wrestling Federation is expanding nationwide.
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And in 1983,
McMahon handpicks Hogan
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to be his centerpiece
attraction.
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Making his first appearance
in this arena,
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ladies and gentlemen,
Hulk Hogan!
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In 1983, Vince McMahon was
systematically going around,
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filling spots for his plan totake over the wrestling world.
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Money, of course.
Vince told him,
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-"We gonna put the belt on you.
-You're gonna be our #1 guy."
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Hogan wanted me to come up
and work with him 'cause
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he told Vince, "Hey, I can
make money with this guy."
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Schultz is brought into the WWF to be Hogan's top rival,
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as their in-ring chemistry
was already a proven draw.
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Vince called me and said,"I need you to come on up and
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you ain't gotta worry
about making money anymore.
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We're gonna be sure you make
all the money you need
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for the rest of your life.
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You ain't gotta
worry about it."
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Vince McMahon,
he said, "David,
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I want you to the be
the baddest heel around.
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Baddest bad guy there is,
you're gonna be it."
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They told me the
competition was here.
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They told me the greatestwrestlers in the world was here.
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If that's an example
of great wrestlers, baby,
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I'm gonna walk on 'em
like a steam roller!
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[Jim] He wasn't a
cookie cutter heel.
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He was, he was alittle wilder, little crazier.
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And, that type of thing
was starting to get over.
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They had the footage on TNT,
Tuesday Night Titans,
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where they go to
Schultz's house and
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he's firing rifles off in
the living room.
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- Whoa!
- You stupid idiot!
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You know, telling his
wife to go scrub the floors.
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Get up and get us
something eat.
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"Woman, get in there
and get that done.
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Kids, get in there
and do this."
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I'll slap that smile
off your face.
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Don't smile at me, boy.
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Vince said the Sheriff
Department and the
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State Police came to his
office that Monday morning,
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and wanted to know my address,where I lived.
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They had warrants for my
arrest for child abuse and
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spousal abuse.
And Vince said,
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"Oh, my god!
That was a show!"
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And the guys
couldn't believe it.
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That was all Vince.
Those wasn't my guns.
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Vince had somebody at the
TV station bring those guns.
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This one here is
worth a lot of money.
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Everything I got's
worth a lot of money.
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-Wasn't my house.
-Wasn't my wife. Wasn't my kids.
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Get up! Get up!
Go, get, get upstairs!
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All that was Vince McMahon,
to make people hate me.
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And the more they hated me,
the more money we made.
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McMahon has hit on a
formula that works,
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and his empire is
growing rapidly.
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However, as a result,
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it starts to attract
unwanted attention.
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I liked it as a kid and...
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now, I thought it was kind of
silly and... hypocritical.
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I'm John Stossel.
I was a consumer reporter
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who became a general
reporter at 20/20.
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And you know, sometimes
I wonder about the
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credentials of these doctors
who promote vitamins.
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In the early 1980s,
John Stossel is a
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rising journalist for ABC News, who's made a name for himself
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taking down shady companies
and corrupt businessmen.
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How can you say it
might not be harmful,
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yet, most of the people who
die of lung cancer smoke?
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Now, Stossel has chosen to
turn his investigative lens
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towards another
highly lucrative industry,
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one he believes is
deceiving its audience.
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I was a wrestler
in high school,
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and I was always a
little annoyed that people,
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some people, believed
that pro wrestling was real
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rather than a scripted eventwhere the winner is preordained
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and people dress up in
funny clothes and
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pretend anger, and...
and bullshit.
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It had leaked out that 20/20
was gonna do a piece and,
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obviously, if it's
ABC Network News,
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it's gonna be an exposé.
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[John] I just thought it was
interesting that this big,
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growing, successful business
was based on bullshit.
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I mean, cleverly done,
athletic bullshit, but lies.
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The worst thing that
could ever happen,
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everybody's gonna
want to know,
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is wrestling fake or not?
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♪
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The number one cardinal rule
of professional wrestling
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for a hundred years was,
don't expose the secrets.
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One of the biggest,
most famous exposés...
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happened in New York
in the 1930s.
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"A Thrilling and
Dramatic Expose of
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Modern Wrestling
Fakes Coming Soon!"
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In New York, newspaper
exposés killed wrestling
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for almost 15 years.
Everybody realized,
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this is our society,
this is kayfabe.
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We can't reveal
what's going on.
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It'll cost us all
our livelihoods.
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50 years later, the stakes
are just as high for
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Vince McMahon's World
Wrestling Federation.
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And for his newest
superstar David Schultz,
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kayfabe is a religion.
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I don't care what you think.
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I don't care what the
people think about me.
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I don't care what
nobody thinks about me.
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I don't care what
you think about me.
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It was my business.
If I didn't observe kayfabe,
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they'd look at me and say,
"Ah, he's a phony."
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No. I was a pro wrestler.
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I come to the WWF, baby,
where the toughest
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in the world is
wrestling right now.
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Being a pro wrestler means
that I had standards
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I had to stand up to.
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That's the only way
I could make money,
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have high standards.
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As the WWF's popularity
is reaching new heights,
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ABC News reporter
John Stossel must somehow
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infiltrate wrestling's
secret society if he's to
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expose what happens
behind the scenes.
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We either did a survey or
found a survey that about a
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third of the people who
attended the events
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thought it was real.
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- This is real?
- Yeah, I think so, yes.
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And, I don't like people
being bullshitted and...
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couldn't do a story unless wecould find some insider
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who would say, "Yeah, here's howwe fake this and that," and...
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was willing to go and
into ring and demonstrate.
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And eventually,
we found Eddy Mansfield.
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I'm the Continental Lover,
Eddy Mansfield.
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A rich woman's lover
and a poor girl's dream.
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The Continental Lover,
Eddy Mansfield.
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I left the state of Georgia
when I was 17
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to go play baseball.
When I hurt my arm and
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I couldn't play
baseball anymore,
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I had to find something to do.
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You couldn't just
drink every day.
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And you cowboy!
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And so, I always
liked wrestling.
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When I was breaking
into the business,
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I was kinda self-taught
a little bit.
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But the bottom line is,
I could draw money and
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I could talk on that mike.
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I'm gonna chase you
around the place and then
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I'm gonna erase your face.
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And I was very fortunate.
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The only thing that,
that really shocked me...
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was the payoffs.
You know,
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you're drawing
sellout crowds and
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you're getting not even
pennies on the dollar.
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With no healthcare,
no nothing.
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That's where I'm
having the problem.
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Well, how come you
don't treat us like
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professional athletes are
supposed to be treated?
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Not like the
scum of the earth.
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-Why don't you give these guyshealth insurance and a 401
-K?
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Set an example!
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You want to be a
big-time promoter,
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let's set an example.
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You know, I didn't quit
the wrestling business.
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The wrestling
business quit me.
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Well, I went and kick backed
20% of my money.
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The booker at the time
wanted to control people.
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They did it to the other
guys who agreed to it.
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But, I didn't agree to it.
And then,
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my booking stopped.
I mean, boom.
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As quick as I went up,
I was out.
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I said, "You do
this to me...
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I will promise you, I'll go
on national television and
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I will tell the whole world
what kind of scam
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you're running on, on the guys."
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I said, "Try me."
Well, he did.
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I made one
phone call to ABC.
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Stossel and his producers at 20/20 arrange an interview
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with Eddy Mansfield
who agrees to reveal
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the tricks of the trade.
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You couldn't just say,
"Hey, this is fake."
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You had to both reveal
and entertain people so,
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I needed a genuine professionalwrestler to demonstrate.
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Ah, when we shot.
You know,
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I talked to them and we
were kind of laying out
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the show and how it
would run and all that.
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John Stossel come down and
went in the ring with him.
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Pro wrestler show
him how stuff's done.
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He lands on his forearms
and elbows, not on me.
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He showed me how to
jump and be thrown, and...
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some of the tricks.
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And you just take
off on your own?
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Right.
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[David] Why didn't they
come get me?
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Let me take him
into the ring.
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I could show him
how it's done.
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No, you had to have
two wimps out there,
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Stossel and Mansfield.
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Ah! Good.
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[Jim] Mansfield tried to givethe standard exposé that,
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yes, we're told
to win and lose.
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- Is this real wrestling?
- No. Not real... no.
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Not at all. I mean,
if somebody believed that,
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they'd be stupid.
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But also, he went so
far as to show the blade.
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Nobody wanted fake blood
where people could find it.
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That would be proof that whatwe were doing was bullshit.
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So, everybody bled for real.
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Two ways to do that, the easyway and the hard way.
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The easy way,
is with a blade.
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You know,
they were just on me,
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"Just show the blade,show the blade, show the blade."
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00:16:40,390 --> 00:16:42,000
I'm going, "Hey, what about
all this other stuff
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I need to talk about?"They had to push it, push it,
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push it, you know
what I mean? And so...
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And I, and I, I did it.
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You go just like that.
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00:16:56,363 --> 00:16:58,453
And gradually during the
match it would drip down
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00:16:58,495 --> 00:16:59,755
over your face?
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00:16:59,801 --> 00:17:03,461
That's it. See, if I was
sweating, it'd pour.
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00:17:03,500 --> 00:17:06,420
I was pretty shocked
and, also,
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00:17:06,460 --> 00:17:09,770
something about hiding a
razor blade in their mouths?
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Some keep the
blade right here,
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in their mouth.
Some, in their tights.
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These are tough dudes who
risk a lot for this sport.
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Sport. I shouldn't
call it a sport.
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For this... entertainment.
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John Stossel is only focused onanything to expose the business,
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and I wasn't there
to expose the business.
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I was there to
help the business.
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And the promoters are
very ruthless people.
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00:17:39,841 --> 00:17:41,801
And, they don't care
of the people
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that make them the money.
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00:17:43,410 --> 00:17:46,760
I wanted to get the healthcareand the benefits for the boys.
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00:17:46,804 --> 00:17:47,894
[David ] He come back and says,
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00:17:47,936 --> 00:17:49,846
"Oh, I wanted to do it
for insurance."
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00:17:49,894 --> 00:17:51,424
This guy, he just
couldn't get no work.
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00:17:51,461 --> 00:17:54,811
Nobody wanted to use him.
He wasn't worth a shit.
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00:17:54,856 --> 00:17:57,416
[Jim] Eddy Mansfield's a
has-been, never-was,
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couldn't get where
he wanted to be,
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didn't have the talent.
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00:18:00,253 --> 00:18:02,993
Then still tries to claim
he did it for the boys.
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00:18:03,038 --> 00:18:06,518
[Eddy] Bottom line is, it's timenow for them to step up and
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protect the guys,
where they have a future,
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when they get old.
You know, I...
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I made a statement
one time, I said,
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"Abraham Lincoln
freed the slaves,
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00:18:15,224 --> 00:18:19,234
but Abraham Lincoln forget
to free the pro wrestlers."
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00:18:19,272 --> 00:18:21,322
Armed with
insider knowledge,
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Stossel sets out to
confront the industry
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over Mansfield's allegations.
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♪
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I thought, well, we need to
have the usual person from
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the professional
organization say,
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"Oh, this isn't fake.
This is all real!"
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00:18:37,203 --> 00:18:39,033
So, we went to
Madison Square Garden,
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00:18:39,074 --> 00:18:40,774
and I guess Vince McMahon
okayed it or
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we wouldn't have been there.
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00:18:42,947 --> 00:18:45,907
I arrived at the
arena and, of course,
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00:18:45,950 --> 00:18:48,780
downstairs we walked through
where the wrestlers come in
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00:18:48,823 --> 00:18:50,913
and the fans,
some people hollering,
431
00:18:50,955 --> 00:18:52,385
some people cussing.
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Go in the dressing room,talk to all the boys, "Hello."
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00:18:54,742 --> 00:18:56,792
Sit down, put my boots
on like I always do.
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00:18:56,831 --> 00:19:00,271
Get ready, and that's when
Vince come walking in and
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00:19:00,313 --> 00:19:02,973
he said, "Listen, we got
a guy out here
436
00:19:03,011 --> 00:19:04,931
making a joke out
of the business.
437
00:19:04,969 --> 00:19:07,059
I want you to go out
and interview with him.
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00:19:07,102 --> 00:19:08,842
Blast him.
Tear his ass up.
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00:19:08,886 --> 00:19:11,366
Stay in character, Dr. D."
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00:19:11,411 --> 00:19:14,541
We were backstage and
I talked to the guy
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00:19:14,588 --> 00:19:18,418
they call the Iron Sheik and
then McMahon said,
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00:19:18,461 --> 00:19:24,161
"Here's another guy."
And then, Schultz came out.
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00:19:24,206 --> 00:19:25,986
He was a little frightening.
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00:19:26,034 --> 00:19:27,694
So, why are you
called Dr. D?
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00:19:27,731 --> 00:19:29,561
Why not?
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00:19:29,603 --> 00:19:32,743
This was a
recipe for disaster.
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00:19:32,780 --> 00:19:36,700
I'm thinking, why would anybodyhave gone up to Schultz?
448
00:19:36,740 --> 00:19:38,790
- Is this a good business?- Yeah, it's a good business.
449
00:19:38,829 --> 00:19:39,919
I wouldn't be in
it if it wasn't.
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00:19:39,961 --> 00:19:40,921
Why is it a good business?
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00:19:40,962 --> 00:19:42,442
Because, only the
tough survive.
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00:19:42,485 --> 00:19:43,965
That's the reason
you ain't in it.
453
00:19:44,008 --> 00:19:45,578
And this punk holding thecamera, reason he ain't in it.
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00:19:45,619 --> 00:19:47,229
Reason these rednecks
out here ain't in it,
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00:19:47,273 --> 00:19:49,103
because it's a
tough business.
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00:19:49,144 --> 00:19:52,374
I was feeling
uncomfortable all the way...
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00:19:52,408 --> 00:19:56,278
And, almost didn't
ask him the question.
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00:19:56,325 --> 00:19:58,275
I'll ask you the
standard question...
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00:19:58,327 --> 00:20:01,547
And I said, "A standard
question, huh? Okay."
460
00:20:01,591 --> 00:20:04,031
- Standard question?
- I think this is fake.
461
00:20:04,072 --> 00:20:06,032
"I think it's fake."
Now I'm thinking,
462
00:20:06,074 --> 00:20:07,824
Vince wanted me to
stay in character.
463
00:20:07,858 --> 00:20:11,038
Dr. D would slap the hellout of somebody that said that.
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00:20:11,079 --> 00:20:14,429
- I think this is fake.
- You think it's fake?
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00:20:14,474 --> 00:20:16,004
How's that?
Is that fake?
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00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,300
Holy shit! What the hell
just happened here?
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00:20:18,347 --> 00:20:20,917
♪
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00:20:25,136 --> 00:20:27,136
♪
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00:20:27,182 --> 00:20:30,052
Ah, boom.
There goes Stossel down.
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00:20:30,098 --> 00:20:32,188
Go, go back
before the first slap.
471
00:20:32,231 --> 00:20:33,971
Right there,
look, look, look!
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00:20:34,015 --> 00:20:36,145
Now that I watch that back,
he didn't even hit him
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00:20:36,191 --> 00:20:37,451
nearly as hard
as he could have.
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00:20:37,497 --> 00:20:39,457
He didn't even draw back.
He just, boom.
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00:20:39,499 --> 00:20:40,939
I mean, it's still,
it's David Schultz,
476
00:20:40,978 --> 00:20:43,238
but he could have,
he could have...
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00:20:43,285 --> 00:20:45,845
paralyzed him if he'd
drawn back and swung.
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00:20:45,896 --> 00:20:48,026
- I think this is fake.
- You think it's fake?
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00:20:48,072 --> 00:20:50,772
Whack.
Whacked me in the ear.
480
00:20:50,814 --> 00:20:53,734
And knocked me down, and thenI stupidly got up again.
481
00:20:53,774 --> 00:20:55,344
Huh? What the hell's
wrong with ya?
482
00:20:55,384 --> 00:20:56,954
That's an open hand slap, huh?
483
00:20:56,994 --> 00:20:59,524
I was always taught, man get up,you gotta knock him back down
484
00:20:59,562 --> 00:21:01,962
because if he gets up,
he might hurt you.
485
00:21:01,999 --> 00:21:04,309
You think it's fake, you...
486
00:21:04,350 --> 00:21:05,660
He whacked me in
the other ear.
487
00:21:05,699 --> 00:21:06,919
My ears were ringing.
488
00:21:06,961 --> 00:21:08,221
What do you mean, it's fake?
489
00:21:08,267 --> 00:21:10,697
I was stunned and
a little scared,
490
00:21:10,747 --> 00:21:12,307
and that's why
I crawled off.
491
00:21:12,358 --> 00:21:15,928
I didn't want to
get hit again.
492
00:21:15,970 --> 00:21:18,630
[Eddy] That's why I told him,specifically,
493
00:21:18,668 --> 00:21:22,408
not to interview David Schultz.'Cause I told him,
494
00:21:22,455 --> 00:21:24,885
I said, "If you ask him
stupid questions,
495
00:21:24,935 --> 00:21:28,065
you're gonna get slapped."
496
00:21:28,112 --> 00:21:30,992
[John] I was angry and stunned.
497
00:21:31,028 --> 00:21:32,808
I also thought, well,
that's a clip
498
00:21:32,856 --> 00:21:37,246
we'll use at the end of
our 20/20 story.
499
00:21:37,296 --> 00:21:39,206
[David] I didn't think
it'd be anything.
500
00:21:39,254 --> 00:21:43,614
I figured, you slapped him
for rude manners...
501
00:21:43,650 --> 00:21:47,480
like my mama would slap me
if I did something wrong.
502
00:21:47,523 --> 00:21:51,443
In a minute, and not
think about it. Boom!
503
00:21:51,484 --> 00:21:55,534
Moments after flooring 20/20 reporter John Stossel,
504
00:21:55,575 --> 00:21:58,185
David Schultz heads to
the ring for his match with
505
00:21:58,229 --> 00:22:02,149
Japanese wrestling icon
Antonio Inoki.
506
00:22:02,190 --> 00:22:04,580
He's unaware of the
gravity of the situation
507
00:22:04,627 --> 00:22:07,147
developing backstage.
508
00:22:07,195 --> 00:22:10,195
Doctor's in trouble!
Oh, what a move!
509
00:22:10,241 --> 00:22:12,511
Karate kick right to
the side of the head.
510
00:22:12,548 --> 00:22:14,938
- It's all over!
- It is all over.
511
00:22:14,985 --> 00:22:17,285
After the match, Vince said,
"Just go to the hotel 'cause
512
00:22:17,336 --> 00:22:19,336
Stossel's saying
he's hurt and all that.
513
00:22:19,381 --> 00:22:21,301
He's talking about
pressing charges."
514
00:22:21,340 --> 00:22:24,260
"For what?"
Vince said,
515
00:22:24,299 --> 00:22:26,259
"Don't even take a shower.
Go on to the hotel."
516
00:22:26,301 --> 00:22:28,391
I just put my sweatpants on,
sweatshirt,
517
00:22:28,434 --> 00:22:32,834
grabbed my bag and,
I was gone.
518
00:22:32,873 --> 00:22:35,443
Vince had to be thinking,
starting at that point,
519
00:22:35,484 --> 00:22:37,274
[Jim] "I'm gonna have to do
something with Schultz or
520
00:22:37,312 --> 00:22:41,012
I'm gonna have to eliminate
Schultz from the equation."
521
00:22:41,055 --> 00:22:43,745
[David] Next day I went up toStanford and seen him.
522
00:22:43,797 --> 00:22:46,497
He was telling me about the
New York Athletic Commission
523
00:22:46,539 --> 00:22:49,319
suspending me and told me
he's gonna pay the fine,
524
00:22:49,368 --> 00:22:50,798
he's gonna get
everything straightened out,
525
00:22:50,847 --> 00:22:53,847
don't worry about it.
He's gonna send me to Japan
526
00:22:53,894 --> 00:22:55,774
and we'll let this
thing cool over.
527
00:22:55,809 --> 00:22:57,809
8 weeks after the incident,
528
00:22:57,854 --> 00:23:00,474
John Stossel's
20/20 report airs,
529
00:23:00,509 --> 00:23:03,509
and the wrestling community
is universally outraged.
530
00:23:03,556 --> 00:23:05,466
You are trying to
kill our business,
531
00:23:05,514 --> 00:23:08,134
take money away from
us and our families,
532
00:23:08,169 --> 00:23:10,039
you little piss ant,
John Stossel.
533
00:23:10,084 --> 00:23:12,044
That's what all the
wrestlers thought about him.
534
00:23:12,086 --> 00:23:13,696
[20/20]
...Eddy to body slam me.
535
00:23:13,740 --> 00:23:15,830
But Eddy says
anybody can do it.
536
00:23:15,872 --> 00:23:17,702
Eddy Mansfield,
they hated him.
537
00:23:17,744 --> 00:23:19,664
It's an optical illusion.
538
00:23:19,702 --> 00:23:22,752
I had death threats, peopletrying to plant cocaine on me.
539
00:23:22,792 --> 00:23:24,792
And I knew I just had
to get out of the south,
540
00:23:24,838 --> 00:23:28,408
you know, before I either wentto jail for killing somebody...
541
00:23:28,450 --> 00:23:32,450
or somebody killing me.
I moved into New York.
542
00:23:32,498 --> 00:23:35,498
I had four FBI guys with me
on the plane
543
00:23:35,544 --> 00:23:38,074
to make sure I got to
New York safe.
544
00:23:38,112 --> 00:23:40,382
You re not messing with the
promoters when you expose
545
00:23:40,419 --> 00:23:42,459
the business, you were
messing with the boys.
546
00:23:42,508 --> 00:23:44,948
They fear more about what
their friends and
547
00:23:44,988 --> 00:23:48,948
what their cohorts will do tothem than the penalty
548
00:23:48,992 --> 00:23:50,562
they can get from the law.
549
00:23:50,603 --> 00:23:52,043
When you look back,
550
00:23:52,082 --> 00:23:55,302
I should have just got my
butt up and just left.
551
00:23:55,346 --> 00:23:59,436
If the deal feels bad,
the deal is bad.
552
00:23:59,481 --> 00:24:02,531
It cost me my career.
But, that's okay.
553
00:24:02,571 --> 00:24:06,971
They did me a favor.
Because I'm better off today
554
00:24:07,010 --> 00:24:09,670
than I ever would have
been in wrestling.
555
00:24:09,709 --> 00:24:12,319
Pro wrestling doesn't take
care of the people that
556
00:24:12,363 --> 00:24:14,763
make it the money,
and it never has.
557
00:24:14,801 --> 00:24:17,631
And just preaching, "Oh,you gotta protect the business.
558
00:24:17,673 --> 00:24:19,633
You gotta do this,"
well, why do I want
559
00:24:19,675 --> 00:24:23,845
to protect something
that doesn't protect me?
560
00:24:23,897 --> 00:24:26,597
Vince McMahon sends Schultz to wrestle in Japan,
561
00:24:26,639 --> 00:24:29,339
hoping the fallout from
the incident will die down.
562
00:24:29,380 --> 00:24:33,560
Instead, the controversy
follows Schultz east.
563
00:24:33,602 --> 00:24:38,562
First thing they wanted me todo in Japan was hit a reporter.
564
00:24:38,607 --> 00:24:41,567
And I told them, I'm not
hitting nobody unless
565
00:24:41,610 --> 00:24:44,130
you write it down as
part of the script.
566
00:24:44,178 --> 00:24:45,828
And they did write it down.
567
00:24:48,008 --> 00:24:50,398
Well, they come into the
dressing room, had a camera.
568
00:24:50,445 --> 00:24:54,005
I told 'em I'll just slap youupside the head, you fall down.
569
00:24:54,057 --> 00:24:55,837
Then the camera guy'll
take a picture of you
570
00:24:55,885 --> 00:24:58,405
laying on the floor.
And the news,
571
00:24:58,453 --> 00:25:02,333
Tokyo news saying, you know,
"Dr. D comes now to Japan
572
00:25:02,370 --> 00:25:07,550
and slaps reporters like
he did in New York." Hmm.
573
00:25:07,593 --> 00:25:10,773
Back at ABC News,
more than 1,000 people
574
00:25:10,813 --> 00:25:14,033
call in to enquire about
John Stossel's wellbeing
575
00:25:14,077 --> 00:25:17,077
after seeing his
report on television.
576
00:25:17,124 --> 00:25:20,344
My ears were ringing
and I had pain
577
00:25:20,388 --> 00:25:22,478
when there was a loud noise.
578
00:25:22,521 --> 00:25:24,831
My daughter was a
baby at the time,
579
00:25:24,871 --> 00:25:26,611
and when she cried,
it hurt my ears.
580
00:25:26,655 --> 00:25:29,005
It made it tough for me to
change her diapers
581
00:25:29,049 --> 00:25:31,789
or parent well.
582
00:25:31,834 --> 00:25:35,364
I thought that McMahon and
his group should be taught a
583
00:25:35,403 --> 00:25:37,933
lesson that they can't
go beating up reporters.
584
00:25:37,971 --> 00:25:40,151
And, I sued for damages.
585
00:25:40,190 --> 00:25:45,200
I wanted some
compensation for my pain.
586
00:25:45,239 --> 00:25:47,369
[David] What Stossel
don't understand is,
587
00:25:47,415 --> 00:25:50,505
I went to his lawyer and
talked to his lawyer
588
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:53,069
before Vince ever got sued
or anything else.
589
00:25:53,116 --> 00:25:55,466
My lawyer that I had
at that time told me,
590
00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:58,300
"You need to go tell him the
whole story and take care of
591
00:25:58,339 --> 00:26:01,039
yourself 'cause Vince is
not gonna take care of you."
592
00:26:01,081 --> 00:26:04,431
At the WWF, it's clear to
McMahon that
593
00:26:04,475 --> 00:26:07,385
the Stossel incident is
not going away,
594
00:26:07,435 --> 00:26:10,475
and he needs Schultz to
help him solve it.
595
00:26:10,525 --> 00:26:13,695
He didn't know he was gonna
get sued by John Stossel,
596
00:26:13,746 --> 00:26:16,306
and when he got sued,
my name wasn't in it.
597
00:26:16,357 --> 00:26:19,837
So, he was mad.
598
00:26:19,882 --> 00:26:22,622
I went by the office and
that's when he wanted me to
599
00:26:22,668 --> 00:26:25,278
sign a paper saying
that it was all my fault,
600
00:26:25,322 --> 00:26:28,112
I did it...
under my own influence.
601
00:26:28,151 --> 00:26:30,021
Ah, no, that ain't
gonna happen.
602
00:26:30,066 --> 00:26:32,676
I'm not gonna
take blame for you,
603
00:26:32,721 --> 00:26:34,591
what you had me to do.
604
00:26:34,636 --> 00:26:37,896
I'll sign a paper saying I didwhat you told me to do.
605
00:26:37,944 --> 00:26:40,474
John Stossel said I
hit him in both cheeks,
606
00:26:40,511 --> 00:26:42,781
in the right cheek and
then the left cheek on,
607
00:26:42,818 --> 00:26:45,428
on deposition. And, anybody
watches the tapes that
608
00:26:45,473 --> 00:26:50,133
got any sense can
see I never hit his ears.
609
00:26:50,173 --> 00:26:53,443
While Schultz is falling
out of favor at the WWF,
610
00:26:53,481 --> 00:26:56,531
Stossel's lawsuit
is intensifying.
611
00:26:56,571 --> 00:26:59,661
It's part of the
pretrial prep,
612
00:26:59,705 --> 00:27:04,315
you go to their doctor sotheir doctor can examine you.
613
00:27:04,361 --> 00:27:07,151
They sent me to a
highfalutin guy who,
614
00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:10,240
without examining me, said,
"I think you're suffering
615
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,540
from a duro somatic illness.""What?" I said.
616
00:27:13,588 --> 00:27:17,588
-"A duro somatic illness.
-You're holding onto your pain
617
00:27:17,636 --> 00:27:19,416
'cause you're involved
in a lawsuit."
618
00:27:19,463 --> 00:27:21,163
And I said, "Screw you!
619
00:27:21,204 --> 00:27:24,294
You're the paid lawyer
for the defendants and you
620
00:27:24,338 --> 00:27:26,378
haven't even examined me
and you're saying this?"
621
00:27:29,735 --> 00:27:33,865
Years later, they settled.
I got $280,000.
622
00:27:33,913 --> 00:27:36,313
Do some people
psychologically feel pain
623
00:27:36,350 --> 00:27:40,790
longer because of that,
as this doctor claimed?
624
00:27:40,833 --> 00:27:43,663
Maybe.
Maybe he was right...
625
00:27:43,705 --> 00:27:47,835
'cause, I held onto my pain,
but it gradually did go away
626
00:27:47,883 --> 00:27:49,713
when I got paid.
627
00:27:49,755 --> 00:27:53,495
♪
628
00:27:58,328 --> 00:28:01,768
As the blowback from the
20/20 piece dissipates,
629
00:28:01,810 --> 00:28:03,730
McMahon focuses
on the launch of
630
00:28:03,769 --> 00:28:05,899
his biggest event yet.
631
00:28:05,945 --> 00:28:08,555
Vince's concept for
WrestleMania was the biggest
632
00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:11,079
wrestling event
ever held, times ten,
633
00:28:11,124 --> 00:28:13,264
an over-the-top,
closed-circuit...
634
00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:15,910
globally broadcast
extravaganza that would
635
00:28:15,955 --> 00:28:18,955
combine celebrities
and wrestling matches.
636
00:28:19,001 --> 00:28:22,401
Looking to appeal to the
widest possible audience,
637
00:28:22,439 --> 00:28:25,439
McMahon adds a Hollywood
actor to the roster,
638
00:28:25,486 --> 00:28:28,006
and puts him at
the top of the card.
639
00:28:28,054 --> 00:28:30,934
Mr. T was one of the biggesttelevision stars in the country.
640
00:28:30,970 --> 00:28:32,800
In 1985,
he'd been a star of
641
00:28:32,841 --> 00:28:35,101
The A Team with
George Peppard.
642
00:28:35,148 --> 00:28:38,758
- You want him?
- No, you take him.
643
00:28:38,804 --> 00:28:40,764
He's working with
Sylvester Stallone.
644
00:28:40,806 --> 00:28:41,886
Dead meat.
645
00:28:41,937 --> 00:28:44,067
He had a great body,
and a mohawk,
646
00:28:44,113 --> 00:28:45,463
and he wore the chains.
647
00:28:45,506 --> 00:28:47,116
But he looked the part
and he talked the part,
648
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,770
and could make people
believe he was the part.
649
00:28:48,814 --> 00:28:50,294
Been teaching me
how to pump iron,
650
00:28:50,337 --> 00:28:52,297
get my pythons ready, and I'mglad you brought me here.
651
00:28:52,339 --> 00:28:56,339
The WWF positions Hulk Hogan and Mr. T front and center
652
00:28:56,386 --> 00:28:58,346
in their
nationwide promotion.
653
00:28:58,388 --> 00:29:01,518
But Schultz's name
is missing entirely.
654
00:29:01,565 --> 00:29:04,045
I didn't think Mr. T should
be coming in to go in a
655
00:29:04,090 --> 00:29:07,010
wrestling match when he's
never wrestled or anything.
656
00:29:07,049 --> 00:29:10,399
And pay him more than he
pays any of his wrestlers.
657
00:29:10,444 --> 00:29:11,794
I said, "That's a joke.
658
00:29:11,837 --> 00:29:14,227
You're putting T
into WrestleMania I?
659
00:29:14,274 --> 00:29:17,234
What about me?
Where you putting me?"
660
00:29:17,277 --> 00:29:20,367
Schultz watches on as buzz
around WrestleMania
661
00:29:20,410 --> 00:29:22,060
grows bigger by the day.
662
00:29:22,108 --> 00:29:24,678
At a WWF event
in Los Angeles,
663
00:29:24,719 --> 00:29:28,419
tensions backstage
escalate even further.
664
00:29:28,462 --> 00:29:31,552
Mr. T and some of his
Hollywood friends were there
665
00:29:31,595 --> 00:29:34,465
to see the matches and I'm
sure he was being treated as
666
00:29:34,511 --> 00:29:37,731
a guest, and just beingallowed the run of the place.
667
00:29:37,776 --> 00:29:41,946
I believe that Schultz
genuinely resented
668
00:29:41,997 --> 00:29:44,867
T's presence there and didn'twant him in the locker room
669
00:29:44,913 --> 00:29:46,573
'cause that was
reserved for the boys.
670
00:29:46,610 --> 00:29:47,740
That was a sanctuary.
671
00:29:51,137 --> 00:29:54,967
No. Mr. T was in the hallway
talking to me that night.
672
00:29:55,010 --> 00:29:57,840
Jay Strongbow was
the agent on the job.
673
00:29:57,883 --> 00:30:00,153
He come out, seen him
in the hallway with me.
674
00:30:00,189 --> 00:30:02,239
He said, "David,
Vince had told me,
675
00:30:02,278 --> 00:30:06,758
if you was gonna go out thereand bother Mr. T to fire you."
676
00:30:06,805 --> 00:30:08,545
"Well, you better fire me then."
677
00:30:08,589 --> 00:30:11,979
He said, "Okay,
you're fired."
678
00:30:12,027 --> 00:30:15,727
I get dressed and go down to
the ring to watch the match.
679
00:30:15,770 --> 00:30:18,160
I was just going out to
see Toru Tanaka.
680
00:30:18,207 --> 00:30:20,427
Good friend of mine.
He's sitting with Mr. T.
681
00:30:20,470 --> 00:30:22,910
So, I went to the ringside
and the cops come up,
682
00:30:22,951 --> 00:30:26,091
and Jay Strongbow called the
cops and told 'em that I was
683
00:30:26,128 --> 00:30:29,738
a fairly dangerous guy and I
was about to hurt somebody
684
00:30:29,784 --> 00:30:33,884
out there and they needed
to get me out of there.
685
00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:35,179
They hog-tied me.
686
00:30:35,224 --> 00:30:37,184
Hands handcuffed
behind my back,
687
00:30:37,226 --> 00:30:38,576
flat on my stomach,
688
00:30:38,619 --> 00:30:41,359
feet shackled and
tied to my hands.
689
00:30:41,404 --> 00:30:45,504
And then two cops take guns
and put 'em to my head
690
00:30:45,539 --> 00:30:49,719
on each side and threw me
out the back door.
691
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,150
[Jim] Vince, he had to be
thinking, "What the fuck?
692
00:30:52,198 --> 00:30:54,068
I gotta calm
these guys down."
693
00:30:54,113 --> 00:30:55,853
That was the
fucking atmosphere.
694
00:30:55,897 --> 00:30:58,897
They didn't relate well with
outsiders at that point.
695
00:30:58,944 --> 00:31:01,214
Vince had to get rid of
Schultz because it was
696
00:31:01,250 --> 00:31:03,340
only gonna get worse.
697
00:31:03,383 --> 00:31:05,953
[David] When I got back
to Connecticut,
698
00:31:05,994 --> 00:31:07,604
I checked with
Vince and he said,
699
00:31:07,648 --> 00:31:09,258
"I'm gonna have to check
with Jay Strongbow and
700
00:31:09,302 --> 00:31:11,702
find out what happened."
He knew what happened.
701
00:31:11,739 --> 00:31:13,389
And, my lawyer
wrote him a letter,
702
00:31:13,436 --> 00:31:15,736
told him I was ready to go backto work, and they said,
703
00:31:15,786 --> 00:31:20,136
"No, Mr. Schultz will not
work for us no more, ever."
704
00:31:20,182 --> 00:31:24,012
In 2019, Hulk Hogan came
forward with a completely
705
00:31:24,056 --> 00:31:28,226
different recollection of
the incident with Mr. T.
706
00:31:28,277 --> 00:31:30,847
Out of nowhere, I had T
sitting ringside 'cause
707
00:31:30,889 --> 00:31:32,759
he's a friend of mine and Ididn't know what was going on.
708
00:31:32,803 --> 00:31:34,683
David rolled out of the ring
and bitch slapped the
709
00:31:34,718 --> 00:31:36,898
hell out of him,
just out of nowhere.
710
00:31:36,938 --> 00:31:38,718
A huge slap.
711
00:31:38,766 --> 00:31:40,376
And, after that,
he was pretty much done.
712
00:31:40,420 --> 00:31:42,990
Vince was so pissed at him,
that pretty much was
713
00:31:43,031 --> 00:31:46,861
the bullet that did him in.
714
00:31:46,905 --> 00:31:49,465
Most people know
who that is, Dr. D.
715
00:31:49,516 --> 00:31:54,086
And I guess you know Hogan.
Oh, big head Hogan.
716
00:31:54,129 --> 00:31:57,309
Boy, he used to hate for me totell him he had a big head.
717
00:31:57,350 --> 00:31:59,400
And now he don't
have no hair at all.
718
00:32:02,050 --> 00:32:06,880
Ah... "old friend
forgot his name".
719
00:32:06,925 --> 00:32:10,185
So, I don't know if Stossel
had anything to do
720
00:32:10,232 --> 00:32:12,022
with my getting fired.
721
00:32:12,060 --> 00:32:13,890
They said it was
because of Mr. T.
722
00:32:13,932 --> 00:32:15,632
Well, that's a
bunch of crap.
723
00:32:15,672 --> 00:32:18,152
And then, you know,
to beat all of that is,
724
00:32:18,197 --> 00:32:20,627
Hogan went within a
few weeks after that
725
00:32:20,677 --> 00:32:22,417
and dropped Belzer...
726
00:32:22,462 --> 00:32:25,902
- Mr. Hulk Hogan.
- [cheering]
727
00:32:25,944 --> 00:32:28,514
One of the publicity appearancesthat they had arranged
728
00:32:28,555 --> 00:32:31,595
for Hulk Hogan and Mr. T to
build up for WrestleMania
729
00:32:31,645 --> 00:32:33,775
was an appearance on The
Richard Belzer Show.
730
00:32:33,821 --> 00:32:36,561
There's a thing that the boysused to do with a reporter,
731
00:32:36,606 --> 00:32:39,776
or a photographer,
or somebody from the public.
732
00:32:39,827 --> 00:32:41,257
Now, the first thing
you need to know
733
00:32:41,307 --> 00:32:43,827
about amateur wrestling...
Or professional wrestling.
734
00:32:43,874 --> 00:32:45,014
You just tell me, brother,
when you want him
735
00:32:45,050 --> 00:32:46,830
to quit squealing, okay?
736
00:32:46,877 --> 00:32:48,787
Let me just put one hold on
you and just show you
737
00:32:48,836 --> 00:32:51,006
what it feels like,
what we go through.
738
00:32:51,056 --> 00:32:52,316
How about it, T?
739
00:32:52,361 --> 00:32:53,881
[Mr. T] Keep him like that
for a little while.
740
00:32:53,928 --> 00:32:55,278
[Audience]
[laughs]
741
00:32:55,321 --> 00:32:57,851
Put him in a sleeper.
I mean, choked him.
742
00:32:57,888 --> 00:33:00,668
[Audience]
[laughs]
743
00:33:00,717 --> 00:33:02,107
Oh!
744
00:33:02,154 --> 00:33:04,594
And he passed out,
dropped him on the floor,
745
00:33:04,634 --> 00:33:06,644
and he busted his head.
746
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,380
[Mr. T] He's alright.
He just sleeping.
747
00:33:08,421 --> 00:33:09,551
He's sleeping.
748
00:33:09,596 --> 00:33:12,686
Huh? Hogan didn't get
nothing out of it.
749
00:33:12,729 --> 00:33:14,729
We feel real bad about the
incident that just happened.
750
00:33:14,775 --> 00:33:16,335
When somebody asks me
to show them a
751
00:33:16,385 --> 00:33:18,035
professional wrestling hold,especially when they sit here
752
00:33:18,083 --> 00:33:20,523
and laugh in my face
when I'm talking to him,
753
00:33:20,563 --> 00:33:22,913
I just showed him the simplesthold that I knew and I thought--
754
00:33:22,957 --> 00:33:24,217
[Jim] There was a settlement.
755
00:33:24,263 --> 00:33:26,743
I'm sure Vince probably
paid it at that point.
756
00:33:26,787 --> 00:33:28,747
Number one, Vince McMahon
wasn't gonna fire Hulk Hogan
757
00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:30,919
even if he'd just shot
Richard Belzer in the head.
758
00:33:30,965 --> 00:33:32,355
Hogan was the golden child.
759
00:33:38,973 --> 00:33:40,983
Oh, yeah, yeah.
We was close.
760
00:33:41,019 --> 00:33:42,279
We was very close.
761
00:33:42,324 --> 00:33:43,764
Probably one of the best
friends I ever had in
762
00:33:43,804 --> 00:33:46,294
the business until he
turned his back on me.
763
00:33:46,328 --> 00:33:48,238
[Announcer]
Hulk Hogan!
764
00:33:48,287 --> 00:33:49,767
[David] Then all of a sudden,he, you know,
765
00:33:49,810 --> 00:33:53,070
he's with Vince and it's like,"Hey, I can't talk to you.
766
00:33:53,118 --> 00:33:55,638
Can't deal with you.
You're on your own. Don't--"
767
00:33:55,685 --> 00:33:58,645
You know, and I ain't
talked to him since.
768
00:33:58,688 --> 00:34:01,038
As Hogan becomes
a household name,
769
00:34:01,082 --> 00:34:03,652
Schultz's star fades away.
770
00:34:03,693 --> 00:34:07,393
He tries to find steady work in the smaller territories,
771
00:34:07,436 --> 00:34:10,476
but believes he's being blackballed by the industry.
772
00:34:10,526 --> 00:34:11,696
They called me
back and said,
773
00:34:11,745 --> 00:34:12,955
"Nobody wants to sign
a contract with you!
774
00:34:13,007 --> 00:34:15,097
You're too mean!
You're too bad!"
775
00:34:15,140 --> 00:34:17,270
Everybody I called, theydidn't even want to talk to me,
776
00:34:17,316 --> 00:34:19,706
the promoters,
because of Vince.
777
00:34:19,753 --> 00:34:22,103
You know, he told him,
"Eh, you use him,
778
00:34:22,147 --> 00:34:25,277
I'm through with you. Don't
call me for nothing, ever."
779
00:34:25,324 --> 00:34:28,334
[sighs] Yeah,
it was a hardship,
780
00:34:28,370 --> 00:34:30,110
but I worked through it.
781
00:34:30,155 --> 00:34:33,195
I kept working independent
for a year or two,
782
00:34:33,245 --> 00:34:35,675
and then I became theworld's greatest bounty hunter.
783
00:34:35,725 --> 00:34:37,075
Mm!
784
00:34:37,118 --> 00:34:38,768
Open the door, right now.
785
00:34:38,815 --> 00:34:40,635
What happens when
wrestling's most notorious
786
00:34:40,687 --> 00:34:44,127
bad guy becomes a
real-life gun for hire?
787
00:34:44,169 --> 00:34:46,039
"Dr. D" David Schultz,
the world's greatest
788
00:34:46,084 --> 00:34:48,704
bounty hunter is coming to
a screen near you.
789
00:34:48,738 --> 00:34:50,738
♪
790
00:34:55,702 --> 00:34:57,972
Exiled from wrestling
and desperate for cash,
791
00:34:58,008 --> 00:35:00,448
David Schultz is introduced
to the dangerous world of
792
00:35:00,489 --> 00:35:03,709
bounty hunting by a
friend in law enforcement.
793
00:35:03,753 --> 00:35:06,763
He told me, "I'll introduce
you to the bondsman,
794
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,540
and what you do is,
you go pick 'em up,
795
00:35:08,584 --> 00:35:10,984
you get the paperwork
and you bring 'em in,
796
00:35:11,021 --> 00:35:13,501
you get paid.
10% of the bond."
797
00:35:13,546 --> 00:35:15,416
Oh, okay.
That sounds good, yeah.
798
00:35:15,461 --> 00:35:17,901
250,000.
Yeah, that's a nice one.
799
00:35:17,941 --> 00:35:19,901
And they had nobody
doing it at that time.
800
00:35:19,943 --> 00:35:22,643
I went in. They told me
they had this one guy,
801
00:35:22,685 --> 00:35:25,375
motorcycle guy, bad guy,
nobody wanted to go get him,
802
00:35:25,427 --> 00:35:27,037
and they needed
to get him in.
803
00:35:27,081 --> 00:35:28,781
Well, the next
morning I brought him in.
804
00:35:28,822 --> 00:35:31,092
Coming around the corner,
I put a 9 mm in his mouth,
805
00:35:31,129 --> 00:35:33,309
and he wasn't bad at all.
He went right to the ground,
806
00:35:33,348 --> 00:35:35,518
handcuffed him,
took him to jail.
807
00:35:35,568 --> 00:35:38,828
And I said, "Wow, this is
pretty easy right here now."
808
00:35:38,875 --> 00:35:41,655
When you're a pro
wrestler as long as I was,
809
00:35:41,704 --> 00:35:44,584
every day you got
your hands on a man.
810
00:35:44,620 --> 00:35:46,360
Every day you've
got a man's arm,
811
00:35:46,405 --> 00:35:47,615
you've got a man's wrist.
812
00:35:47,667 --> 00:35:50,447
You know what hurts,
what not.
813
00:35:50,496 --> 00:35:53,186
How to hook him, how to
take him down because
814
00:35:53,238 --> 00:35:55,068
you do it every day.
815
00:35:55,109 --> 00:35:56,629
Alright, get your
hands on the car, okay.
816
00:35:56,676 --> 00:35:59,716
And, it's not strange to you
and it don't bother you to
817
00:35:59,766 --> 00:36:03,116
grab a guy and he don't know
what's happening it to him.
818
00:36:03,161 --> 00:36:04,991
Have my brother call Tony.
819
00:36:05,032 --> 00:36:08,512
Schultz takes to the job
like he was born to do it.
820
00:36:08,557 --> 00:36:11,127
He soon develops a
reputation as one of the
821
00:36:11,169 --> 00:36:14,079
most reliable bounty
hunters in America.
822
00:36:14,128 --> 00:36:15,778
And the only way you're
gonna get away from the
823
00:36:15,825 --> 00:36:18,085
Doctor is when you come out
of that house and you see me
824
00:36:18,132 --> 00:36:21,092
standing out there,
you better take off running.
825
00:36:21,135 --> 00:36:22,915
My job takes me
where the criminal goes.
826
00:36:22,963 --> 00:36:24,363
Wherever he goes, I go.
827
00:36:24,399 --> 00:36:25,839
It may take me
to Saudi Arabia.
828
00:36:25,879 --> 00:36:27,269
Wherever he goes,
I'm gonna follow.
829
00:36:27,315 --> 00:36:28,525
I'm gonna be right on him.
830
00:36:28,577 --> 00:36:30,357
All the bondsmen
started calling me.
831
00:36:30,405 --> 00:36:32,185
I had more work
than I could do.
832
00:36:32,233 --> 00:36:33,843
If you found him,
you got paid.
833
00:36:33,887 --> 00:36:35,537
If you didn't, you didn't.
834
00:36:35,584 --> 00:36:38,594
Fucking people, man.
They hide everywhere.
835
00:36:38,631 --> 00:36:40,891
But you got all
kind of 'em, man.
836
00:36:40,937 --> 00:36:43,067
You got all kind of 'em.
You got hookers.
837
00:36:43,113 --> 00:36:45,123
You got drug dealers.
838
00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:48,249
But everybody out on the
streets knew me as Dr. D.
839
00:36:48,293 --> 00:36:49,773
You know,
when people know you,
840
00:36:49,816 --> 00:36:51,946
it's a lot easier to
get into their house,
841
00:36:51,992 --> 00:36:54,522
or they'll open the
door for you or whatever.
842
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,480
Dr. D, David Schultz, buddy.
843
00:36:57,519 --> 00:36:58,829
That's the one
that beat the shit,
844
00:36:58,868 --> 00:37:01,478
I heard, down at Rivero.
845
00:37:01,523 --> 00:37:04,183
Yeah, I feel good
going in with you.
846
00:37:04,613 --> 00:37:09,533
[indistinct speaking]
847
00:37:09,575 --> 00:37:12,265
We're coming to your home,
your living room,
848
00:37:12,317 --> 00:37:15,927
and it's gonna be true,
live, actual footage.
849
00:37:15,972 --> 00:37:18,672
No more make believe.
It's all over.
850
00:37:18,714 --> 00:37:20,984
I'll be there soon.
851
00:37:25,504 --> 00:37:28,464
Well, the best one was when
I picked up the two girls
852
00:37:28,507 --> 00:37:31,287
that was kidnapped by
this piece of garbage.
853
00:37:31,336 --> 00:37:34,636
And, three years, they couldn'tfind him, the FBI.
854
00:37:34,687 --> 00:37:37,467
The two girls got kidnapped -14, 15 years old
855
00:37:37,516 --> 00:37:38,726
when he took off with him.
856
00:37:38,778 --> 00:37:40,348
They said when he
left the house,
857
00:37:40,388 --> 00:37:44,998
he would chain 'em
around the commode.
858
00:37:45,045 --> 00:37:46,785
And the only way they
could drink water was
859
00:37:46,829 --> 00:37:48,919
out of the commode
while he was gone.
860
00:37:48,962 --> 00:37:51,232
I mean, this guy was
a sicko, you know.
861
00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:54,659
I found him in Puerto Rico,
and I walked in the bar and
862
00:37:54,707 --> 00:37:56,877
he was sitting at the bar.
863
00:37:56,926 --> 00:37:59,446
The two girls was
stripping onstage,
864
00:37:59,494 --> 00:38:01,244
and they had a baby
in the back room,
865
00:38:01,279 --> 00:38:04,329
two Dobermans living
back there with her.
866
00:38:04,369 --> 00:38:07,019
And I said, "Hey, Larry.
"Dr. D" David Schultz,
867
00:38:07,067 --> 00:38:09,767
bail enforcement agent,
you're under arrest."
868
00:38:09,809 --> 00:38:12,119
And he jumped off the bar,
run around the side.
869
00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:14,069
I slid over top of the bar,
and he was going
870
00:38:14,117 --> 00:38:16,857
out the back door.
And, two Puerto Rican
871
00:38:16,903 --> 00:38:20,393
policemen pulled down on
him with shot guns.
872
00:38:20,428 --> 00:38:21,948
I jumped on him,
handcuffed him,
873
00:38:21,995 --> 00:38:24,775
and took him outside,
throwed him in the car.
874
00:38:24,824 --> 00:38:27,704
We ended up with two girls,
two dogs, a baby...
875
00:38:27,740 --> 00:38:30,530
[laughs] We had
a whole group, man.
876
00:38:30,569 --> 00:38:33,269
But, I got 'em
back home and,
877
00:38:33,311 --> 00:38:34,881
I guess they're
doing great today.
878
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,620
Oh, yeah.
All the time. All the time.
879
00:38:39,665 --> 00:38:42,485
You just gotta be
careful because,
880
00:38:42,537 --> 00:38:45,317
let me tell you, one mistake
is your last one.
881
00:38:45,366 --> 00:38:47,586
While the former wrestler
is risking his life
882
00:38:47,629 --> 00:38:50,809
in the streets, his old boss Vince McMahon
883
00:38:50,850 --> 00:38:52,590
drops a major bombshell.
884
00:38:52,634 --> 00:38:55,294
State legislatures are being
urged by the biggest of
885
00:38:55,333 --> 00:38:58,123
all wrestling promoters to
think the unthinkable,
886
00:38:58,161 --> 00:39:00,771
to declare that pro wrestlingis not a sport at all,
887
00:39:00,816 --> 00:39:03,246
but an entertainment
whose outcome is actually
888
00:39:03,297 --> 00:39:05,387
known before the
battle begins.
889
00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:08,000
In an ironic twist,
McMahon is attempting to
890
00:39:08,041 --> 00:39:10,351
lift the veil on the
very thing Schultz
891
00:39:10,391 --> 00:39:12,921
became infamous for protecting.
892
00:39:12,959 --> 00:39:15,439
Vince McMahon went to
the athletic department,
893
00:39:15,483 --> 00:39:20,583
Baltimore, and told 'em,
"Hey, it's entertainment.
894
00:39:20,619 --> 00:39:22,799
It's not a sport.
It's entertainment."
895
00:39:22,838 --> 00:39:24,748
Yeah, he exposed
the whole business.
896
00:39:24,797 --> 00:39:27,187
♪
897
00:39:32,108 --> 00:39:35,108
Four years after the
inaugural WrestleMania,
898
00:39:35,155 --> 00:39:38,195
Vince McMahon's gamble
has more than paid off,
899
00:39:38,245 --> 00:39:42,075
but to increase profits,
he aims to change the rules
900
00:39:42,118 --> 00:39:44,598
around how
wrestling is regulated.
901
00:39:44,643 --> 00:39:48,733
Those commissions wouldlicense promoters and wrestlers,
902
00:39:48,777 --> 00:39:50,947
and take tax cut
for the right
903
00:39:50,997 --> 00:39:53,037
to hold that event
in their state.
904
00:39:53,086 --> 00:39:54,956
It might be 5 or
6% of the gates.
905
00:39:55,001 --> 00:39:57,871
Some states,
maybe up to 10%.
906
00:39:57,917 --> 00:40:02,177
It is now official: wrestling isnot really wrestling.
907
00:40:02,225 --> 00:40:04,615
Wrestling promoters have
told their secrets in an
908
00:40:04,663 --> 00:40:06,753
attempt to free themselves
from the half nelson
909
00:40:06,795 --> 00:40:07,965
of government regulation.
910
00:40:08,014 --> 00:40:10,194
We shouldn't be governed
by a state body
911
00:40:10,233 --> 00:40:12,713
unless you re gonna
license Broadway.
912
00:40:12,758 --> 00:40:15,148
That was the comparison:
it's a show.
913
00:40:15,195 --> 00:40:17,455
When Vince McMahon
came out and said
914
00:40:17,502 --> 00:40:21,332
it was entertainment,
he justified what I said...
915
00:40:21,375 --> 00:40:25,245
-you understand?
-Kayfabe! That's a bunch of crap.
916
00:40:25,292 --> 00:40:29,472
I mean, what idiot
came up with that?
917
00:40:29,514 --> 00:40:32,604
Four years after McMahon
makes his appeal
918
00:40:32,647 --> 00:40:35,347
to the state senate,
New Jersey finally
919
00:40:35,389 --> 00:40:38,439
frees the WWF
from regulation.
920
00:40:38,479 --> 00:40:41,179
For Vince McMahon,
it's all part of the show.
921
00:40:41,221 --> 00:40:44,181
I did watch it with my son
who is a very big fan,
922
00:40:44,224 --> 00:40:45,664
and we bought
all the figures,
923
00:40:45,704 --> 00:40:48,754
and I understand what adifference it makes to people.
924
00:40:48,794 --> 00:40:52,324
Many other states, eager
for the WWF's business,
925
00:40:52,362 --> 00:40:55,192
follow New Jersey's
lead and deregulate
926
00:40:55,235 --> 00:40:59,145
what McMahon now calls
"sports entertainment".
927
00:40:59,195 --> 00:41:00,715
Stossel was set up.
928
00:41:00,762 --> 00:41:04,902
And, Eddy Mansfield
had everybody set up.
929
00:41:04,940 --> 00:41:07,200
He went and sold his soul out.
930
00:41:07,247 --> 00:41:10,767
I gave my whole career
up because of these people.
931
00:41:10,816 --> 00:41:15,116
[Off-screen] Do you or, willyou ever forgive John Stossel?
932
00:41:15,168 --> 00:41:17,558
It's really not for
me to forgive,
933
00:41:17,605 --> 00:41:21,035
It's Gods' job to
forgive him.
934
00:41:21,087 --> 00:41:23,567
And I'm not God.
935
00:41:27,572 --> 00:41:29,922
What am I doing now?
Well, starting next week,
936
00:41:29,965 --> 00:41:32,185
I'll be driving a
tractor trailer, 18-wheeler,
937
00:41:32,228 --> 00:41:35,138
hauling cotton from the
gin to the warehouses.
938
00:41:35,188 --> 00:41:37,888
I'll do that about three
months, four months.
939
00:41:37,930 --> 00:41:39,890
I work from sun up
to sun down,
940
00:41:39,932 --> 00:41:42,592
and then during the night.
941
00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:44,590
[Jim] There's two ways that
David Schultz's career
942
00:41:44,632 --> 00:41:46,502
in wrestling could have gone.
943
00:41:46,547 --> 00:41:49,027
One, he would have made a
ton of money in the WWF
944
00:41:49,071 --> 00:41:50,551
'cause he would've been
a big star there
945
00:41:50,595 --> 00:41:54,415
for quite some time.
Or, David being David,
946
00:41:54,468 --> 00:41:57,598
as Vince McMahon
got more cartoony,
947
00:41:57,645 --> 00:42:00,335
more showbiz, David would
have found something else
948
00:42:00,387 --> 00:42:02,907
to blow up about and somethingwould have happened,
949
00:42:02,955 --> 00:42:05,345
which is probably more likely.
950
00:42:05,392 --> 00:42:07,352
I want you, Hogan.
Where you at, boy?
951
00:42:07,394 --> 00:42:11,274
Vince McMahon also wanted to bethe Walt Disney of wrestling.
952
00:42:11,311 --> 00:42:14,141
No way are we gonna
compete with those clowns.
953
00:42:14,183 --> 00:42:17,583
He wanted to be more clean,
more family oriented.
954
00:42:17,622 --> 00:42:19,542
A show that he could
take on the road.
955
00:42:19,580 --> 00:42:22,370
So, some went with him and
trusted that vision and
956
00:42:22,409 --> 00:42:24,589
got their pictures on
ice cream bars.
957
00:42:24,629 --> 00:42:26,629
Boy, it sure is good.
You ought a try one.
958
00:42:26,674 --> 00:42:29,164
I have about two every day.
Mm-mm!
959
00:42:29,198 --> 00:42:31,108
Problem was with Schultz,
he had a guy that was
960
00:42:31,157 --> 00:42:33,587
tougher than a waffle
house steak and
961
00:42:33,638 --> 00:42:34,938
didn't like to be pushed around.
962
00:42:38,773 --> 00:42:41,693
I think if you treated David
as a human being and
963
00:42:41,733 --> 00:42:45,483
respected him as
a professional athlete...
964
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:47,219
you could control anybody.
965
00:42:47,260 --> 00:42:49,570
I don't think that's
the problem with David.
966
00:42:49,610 --> 00:42:53,010
I think it's
being disrespected.
967
00:42:53,048 --> 00:42:55,658
And I, I think that
was all of our problems.
968
00:42:55,703 --> 00:42:57,533
You think it's fake?
969
00:42:57,575 --> 00:43:00,835
It's still annoying that
I've done a million pieces,
970
00:43:00,882 --> 00:43:03,062
that people still
come up and say,
971
00:43:03,102 --> 00:43:05,712
"Oh! Aren't you the guy who gotwhacked by the wrestler?"
972
00:43:05,757 --> 00:43:10,067
On YouTube it's probably my
second most watched video.
973
00:43:10,109 --> 00:43:11,549
[David]
I've become immortal.
974
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:13,589
People are gonna talk about mewhen I'm dead and gone.
975
00:43:13,634 --> 00:43:15,644
"Oh, yeah,
we remember that guy.
976
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,640
He slapped the hell
out of that reporter,
977
00:43:17,682 --> 00:43:19,212
Dr. D,
David Schultz."
978
00:43:19,248 --> 00:43:21,988
And I've offered to go
face to face with him,
979
00:43:22,034 --> 00:43:23,344
let's straighten
this thing out,
980
00:43:23,383 --> 00:43:24,863
John Stossel and me.
981
00:43:24,906 --> 00:43:27,816
-And don't worry, John Stossel,
-I'm not gonna hurt you, boy.
982
00:43:33,436 --> 00:43:36,136
Fuck you, David!
983
00:43:36,178 --> 00:43:38,748
Understand, I stood up
for wrestling.
984
00:43:38,790 --> 00:43:42,920
And, it don't really bother mewhat people think about me.
985
00:43:42,968 --> 00:43:45,008
I really don't care,
you know.
986
00:43:45,057 --> 00:43:47,967
They can think anything
they want. I don't care.
987
00:43:48,016 --> 00:43:50,016
And I'll tell 'em
988
00:43:50,062 --> 00:43:53,022
I don't care.
989
00:43:53,065 --> 00:43:54,845
Mm!
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