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(shouting)
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(siren wailing)
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- [Reporter] Only one brave protester
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there resists the tanks.
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The tanks tried again to move,
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and were halted by their lone tormentor.
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- [Reporter] Chinese artist,
Badiucao, who disguises himself
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out of fear of reprisals
from the Chinese government,
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has called on people all over the world
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to recreate the image.
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- The single biggest, national
security threat is China.
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- [Badiucao] This will be a kind of test.
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The first time that my
work actually entering
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a Chinese territory.
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We shall see the reaction
from the Chinese government.
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- You've got to make a
decision about the exhibition.
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(phone ringing)
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- Yeah, what's going on?
- Badi is fucking terrified.
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- [Man] I don't know his
name or who he is, so--
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- [Danny] No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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And neither do we.
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(dramatic music)
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(gentle music)
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- [Danny] Can I ask you this?
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- [Badiucao] No.
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- [Danny] So if I asked
you if you were married,
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could you answer that question?
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- [Badiucao] No.
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- [Danny] Where your parents live,
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would you be able to tell me?
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- [Badiucao] No.
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- [Danny] Which university
you studied in Australia?
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Could you tell me?
- No.
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- [Danny] Why is your identity concealed?
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- [Badiucao] It's not
because I want to create
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another Banksy.
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It's more crucial for me
that I have to protect myself
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from the possible hunting
by the Chinese government.
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They will not just harm me,
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but also the one that I loved, my family.
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- [Danny] Are you
confident that the Chinese
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authorities don't know who you are?
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- [Badiucao] Well, I wish I could say yes,
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but the real answer is, I don't know.
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(dramatic music)
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- [Reporter] Let's go to
China's decision to remove
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Presidential term limits
from the Constitution,
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allowing Xi Jinping to
remain in power indefinitely.
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China correspondent, Bill Burtles.
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- [Bill] This does put Xi
Jinping on the same pedestal
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as Mao, because it wasn't
just the term limits
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that were abolished yesterday.
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Xi Jinping's ideology was written
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into the National Constitution.
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- [Badiucao] It's clear, let's go.
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- [Danny] What is the picture you've done?
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- [Badiucao] It's showing
how Xi Jinping is going
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to be a lifelong leader,
even after he dies.
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No free speech, no access to information.
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He's cracking down on human
rights lawyers, artists, medias.
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With his policy, the whole
of China's moving to this
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digital dictatorship,
is expanding overseas
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around the world, being
more and more aggressive.
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It works pretty well.
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Today I don't think
anyone will touch this,
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and tomorrow, we'll be ready
for the Chinese students.
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Just for the record, this is
PVA glue, so it's non-toxic.
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Very environmentally friendly stuff.
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(gentle music)
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It is the best time when
I contributing myself,
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using my art, for that's the
moment that I can be completely
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free and forgetting all the
struggle in my daily life.
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(bright music)
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So normally people think art is about,
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generally about cameras, but
in the contemporary sense,
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how you get a image to the outside world.
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(bright music)
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I was in a university in China,
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and my friend downloaded a movie,
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we just started watching it.
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All of a sudden, the movie
turned into a documentary
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about Tiananmen massacre.
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(shouting)
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(siren wailing)
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And when we finished it, we are all like frozen
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in front of the screen.
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And we're looking to each
other, and to be honest,
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we don't know what to say.
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Our first thought is, "Is it even true?"
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(shouting)
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(tense music)
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- [Reporter] Hospital wards
are running out of space.
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- These tanks have just
provided an escort for about
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30 troop trucks.
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- [Badiucao] I was really
shocked when I found out
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the truth of Tiananmen movement.
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Shocked that this has been
entirely erased from history.
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- [Reporter] And I think
one brave protestor's there,
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resist the tanks.
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The tanks tried again to move,
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and were halted by their lone tormentor.
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(tense music)
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- [Badiucao] If I imagine
my future in China,
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I feel like it's suffocating.
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I can't really breathe.
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with knowing that my rights,
and my freedom will be eaten
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away by society like that.
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That was the moment I
realized I had to leave China
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if I wanted to live without all this fear.
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So in 2009, I moved to Australia.
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(bright music)
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I became an Australian citizen.
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It was the first time I
started to feel I'm a free man,
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and I am free to create
artworks about China.
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It all started as like a hobby.
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(dramatic music)
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I'm coming to do an interview,
my name is Badiucao.
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I did one piece of street art in Melbourne
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that had really bring
the world's attention
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to my art career.
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- [Woman] If you go
just south of Chinatown,
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in Central Melbourne, there
is a little cobbled street,
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more of a back alley
really, covered in graffiti.
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Nothing particularly unusual about that,
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but this year, there was one drawing
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that attracted a fair bit of attention.
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It showed a man and a
woman, embracing each other.
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The man is the late Liu Xiaobo,
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a Nobel Laureate and Chinese dissident.
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This drawing appeared just
two days before his death.
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The woman is his widow, Liu Xia,
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who hasn't been seen since his funeral.
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The artists behind it
is one of China's most
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prolific and provocative cartoonists.
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- [Badiucao] Liu Xiaobo is
like Nelson Mandela in China.
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He's the leader for the
Tiananmen movement in 1989.
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In 2010, he win the Nobel Peace Prize
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for his continuing fight
for Chinese democracy.
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He couldn't go to the Nobel ceremony,
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because he's in prison.
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I made my Liu Xiaobo cartoon,
and posted it online,
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and make it free for anyone to download
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and pasted it on the street.
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And it went global after that.
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(uplifting music)
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And two days after, he passed away.
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We just saw a life being
turned off in this brutal way.
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And people are not even
allowed to memorize him.
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- I now know a bit about you,
and there's a lot I don't
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know, I don't know your real
name, I don't know your age,
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I don't know where your
family are et cetera.
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But I know obviously, I know who you are.
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- [Badiucao] Yeah.
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- How many other people in
Melbourne know who you are?
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- [Badiucao] I'd say probably no-one.
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(gentle piano music)
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It's too hard to use Twitter now.
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Hey.
- How are you doing?
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- I'm good, sorry, I can't
really see well, but--
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- Let me introduce you,
Kal, this is Badiucao.
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- Badiucao, Kal.
- Very nice to meet you.
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- Nice to meet you, how are you?
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- [Badiucao] I'm good.
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Wow.
- It's a copy of my,
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- That's fantastic.
- My book, 35 years.
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Did you ever meet any of the
cartoonists on the strip?
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- [Badiucao] Not really,
I've been very cautious about
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meeting people.
- Yes, of course.
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- [Badiucao] On the other
hand, I do want you know,
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to make friends, it's very important.
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Even here, I can't show you my face.
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That's really the
difficulty that I'm facing.
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- Of course, yeah, of course.
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The changes that I would like
to see both in our society,
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and in other societies
won't happen in my lifetime.
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The best you can do is put
the seeds in the ground,
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for it to possibly to happen later.
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And that's the best you can do.
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- So welcome to my two guests today,
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I'm Rosie Blau, I'm the editor of 1843.
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So Badiucao is a political
artist from China.
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Badiucao now lives in exile,
but as we'll talk about,
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his subversive work still
circulates in China.
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Who do you really want to
be seeing your cartoons?
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- All my work is, basically
it has no copyrights.
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So everybody is welcome
to download and share
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in their individual level.
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So a lot of people on Twitter
actually download my work,
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and repost it inside of China,
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on social media like WeChat.
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But obviously, it will
be deleted very soon,
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and sometimes they're facing
a very hard consequence,
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like their account can be suspended,
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they can be invited to the
police station to drink tea.
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(audience laughs)
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- You keep harking back,
particularly to 1989
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and Tiananmen Square.
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Explain to us why you
think it's so important
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to keep putting those
images in front of people.
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- The image that I wanna
use more is the tank man.
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For me, it's really a symbol, a totem,
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for the Chinese dissident.
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That I think, is something
that China needs.
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It's something that I personally need.
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- Have you drawn a
cartoon that you regret,
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or that you now consider a mistake?
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- [Badiucao] Yeah, all the time.
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(audience laughs)
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(bright music)
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I'm actually (mumbles).
- Oh, you are?
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(speaking foreign language)
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- [Badiucao] It was a very
fast talk, quick talk.
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I feel like I could go
for another hour in there.
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- Single biggest national
security threat is China.
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- This is the reality of
President Xi Jinping's China.
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And they don't want the
rest of the world to see.
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- [Reporter] China is running
a well-organized network
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of internment camps.
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- [Reporter] Some say gulags,
and they're growing fast.
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- [Reporter] Rewards for good behavior
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and punishments for bad.
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The world's first digital dictatorship.
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(tense music)
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- [Badiucao] Freshly delivered
cartoon for the first time.
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- I know!
- Right.
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- [Woman] Hand delivered
for the first time.
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- [Badiucao] The real
sense of meeting my editor.
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(laughing)
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- [Xiao] But I want to show
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you something now.
- Sure, that'll be great.
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- So we are monitoring the
great firewall's technology
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and the content they block.
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We all know that Tiananmen
massacre happened 29 years ago,
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is the most taboo for
the Chinese authority.
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In this list, you will see
that great firewall blocked
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31 Tiananmen related keyword phrases.
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So, it's not only just the
Tiananmen June 4th 1989,
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the words you cannot use.
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In the past years, at
the night of June 4th,
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even the people say today,
that very word today,
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is being blocked.
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Why?
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Because if you search the word today,
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the search results will show people
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actually talking about the events.
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Your work is a typical what we call,
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the resistance discourse
that hit very hard
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on the Chinese regime.
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On their legitimacy, on their hypocrisy,
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belongs to the category
that the Chinese sensor
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wants to delete the most.
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(tense music)
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- We, as Australians
living in a free society,
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should not allow ourselves
to be bullied into silence,
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by an autocratic foreign power.
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- [Badiucao] This particular
news just popping out,
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I think it's crucially important.
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Again, reflecting the
situation of free speech
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in Australia, that they
compromise about China.
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So in this cartoon, I'm
going to bring the koala
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as the symbol for
Australia, but also panda,
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the symbol for China.
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Just imagine there's a huge panda,
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holding a branch and it
is going to transform
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a little koala into a panda like,
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it will be good to print it out,
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and actually put it on
the street in Melbourne.
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(dynamic music)
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The reason why I'm trying
to do the paste up,
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instead of using the spray
can to do it publicly,
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it's because it will take longer,
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and it means I'll have to take more risk.
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(tense music)
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(dramatic music)
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Being an artist like
this is also a journey
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to discovering my courage.
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The more you do, the more
dangerous it could be.
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But also the braver you become.
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(dramatic music)
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- [Danny] What you reading, buddy?
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- [Badiucao] I'm reading
President Xi Jinping's
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Governance of China.
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It's a book that probably
most of the Chinese
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have to have and read.
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It's a new version of
Mao's Little Red Book,
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it's the big white book here.
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- Are you afraid of him?
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- [Badiucao] I don't think he's a man
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with any moral compass, so
that's why he's dangerous.
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- It looks like on the picture,
like a nice enough guy.
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- [Badiucao] Yeah, over Photoshopped.
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Nice skin.
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I can't stop imagine
his face being replaced
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by Winnie The Pooh.
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(playful music)
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(tense music)
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We just find that the mailbox is our art.
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- [Danny] Just your mailbox?
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- [Badiucao] Yeah, just my mailbox.
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- [Danny] And did that
have your real name on?
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- [Badiucao] Yeah.
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- So you're pretty worried by that?
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- [Badiucao] Yeah.
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- [Danny] Do you feel safe?
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- [Badiucao] It's never,
it's never how I feel.
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I've received life threatening
messages over the internet.
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- [Danny] Do you think these are China
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government employees?
- Yep.
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(tense music)
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I'm worried that my art
will put me and the people
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I know into danger.
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But I'm also worried that
if I choose to be silent,
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and live a comfortable life,
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I will regret in the rest of my life.
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- [Danny] How much of an issue then,
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is this in your own family dynamic?
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- I guess, I don't want
to talk about my family.
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I'm now working on my first
solo exhibition in Hong Kong.
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It is really exciting,
because it's the first time
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I can get my work back to China.
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- [Danny] So how much of a
risk are you prepared to take
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for your art?
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- I think for the Hong Kong
show, there will be the biggest
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risk I ever take.
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(tense music)
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Tiger Chair is a nickname
for a torture chair
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that has been widely used
in the Chinese police force.
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So this work is just simply,
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me buying this chair from
China, and moving to Hong Kong.
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There are those who sell wooden ones.
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If you wanted more fancy,
you can buy a leather one.
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It's like a Walmart in hell.
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So that's the poster.
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Jinping's face combined with the current
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leader of Hong Kong.
- Yes.
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- She's a woman.
- I mean no-one's
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gonna be confused about what
you're on about, are they?
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- [Badiucao] I hope they don't.
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- It's kind of asking for trouble.
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(tense music)
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Are you worried about
reports about Chinese
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spying in Australia?
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- [Badiucao] Yeah, it
means anyone in Australia
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can be a target.
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And I don't particularly
feel safe as before.
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I've also been offered a job for working
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with Xiaowei Wei in his studio.
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So, I've made a decision
to leave Australia.
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With everything going on,
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I'm relieved I've been
offered this job in Berlin.
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(dramatic music)
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- Safe, good luck.
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(gentle music)
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(gentle music)
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- These are all materials
that are starting to arrive
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for the Hong Kong exhibition.
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- [Badiucao] Yep.
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This is like my treasure box.
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Christmas time.
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- [Danny] So this is your
Liu Xiaobo/Lui Xia cartoon?
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- [Badiucao] Yep.
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- [Danny] He was the
leader of Tiananmen Square,
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right, Liu Xiaobo?
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- [Badiucao] Yeah, he was
one of the main leaders
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of Tiananmen Square.
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(tense music)
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The light is also a metaphor,
the very gesture of putting
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a light on in the dark.
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- So do you wanna continue
doing art about them?
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I mean, obviously he's dead,
she's under house arrest.
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- [Badiucao] Yeah, absolutely.
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To me, an aspect of my
artwork is a way to record
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the history and that's important because
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what Chinese government are doing is that
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they rewrite the history
for their benefit.
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And that's a betrayal of its people.
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(tense music)
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- [Danny] This is your first
exhibition as well, right?
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- [Badiucao] Yeah, it's gonna
be my first solo exhibition.
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This will be a kind of test,
a first time that my work
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actually entering a Chinese territory.
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We shall see the reaction
from the Chinese government.
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- [Danny] So these are also
for the Hong Kong exhibition?
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- [Badiucao] They are.
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- [Danny] Here is the tank
from Tiananmen Square.
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- [Badiucao] Yeah,
that's the tank man here.
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Though there are also tank men there,
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these are the young
generation of the tank men,
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that carry on the spirit.
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- [Danny] What about you?
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Are you in the spirit of tank man?
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- [Badiucao] I think I'm
definitely one of the young
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people on the tank at the moment.
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Actually have a tank man tattoo on my arm.
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I put it on my right
arm that I use to draw
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as a reminder.
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I hope I can have his courage.
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- [Danny] If you could go
tomorrow and tell your family,
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I am the artist, Badiucao.
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- [Badiucao] I hope they'll understand me.
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Because, according to our family history,
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this is not a new thing.
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My grandparents, they
are the first generation
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of the shoemaker in China,
back in 40's and 50's.
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He get into trouble during the
anti-intellectual movement.
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He was sent to a rural
concentration camp, and died there.
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Oh, come on.
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(tense music)
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We learn how the AI is
recognized the face,
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the structure of the eyes, nose and mouth.
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We're gonna cover my nose and
mouth completely from my mask,
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so I need to stitch them together.
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- [Danny] There's a bit of a
metaphor in what you're doing.
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I mean, how far is this gonna go, right?
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First you had a mask.
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And now you've got rid
of the mouth and nose,
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now you got a mask with no mouth and nose.
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- Yep.
- Are you then gonna
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have to have a mask without eyes?
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- Yeah.
- And then is there
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gonna be a technology
that can take the shape
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of the head of the mask?
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I mean--
- Yeah, possibly.
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- [Danny] You should
probably feel more secure,
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but how are you gonna breathe in there?
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- [Badiucao] I can still
breathe, 'cause this is like
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swimming suit material.
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But, it's just gonna be warm.
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Is it just very close shot?
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- [Danny] Too close for you?
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- [Badiucao] Yeah, I don't
know, I feel like it's all
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on my face.
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The idea of delivering
works in the real world
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always interest me, so by
just being in companies
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and drawing behind square
and posting things online,
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is basically just not enough for me.
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Tomorrow will be the anniversary
for the Tiananmen massacre
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and I am going to introduce
the TankMen performance.
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And not just me, but also
there are a lot of volunteers,
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activists, or normal people
are doing a performance
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all around the world.
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Spray painting the plinth into white.
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They tell me it's artwork.
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So this is the website page
for the TankMen performance.
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It is clearly listing
when you should do it,
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where you should do it,
what do you need to wear,
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and successful performance
is not just about the action
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in the real world.
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We're also the poster and
sharing after the performance.
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I designed the hashtag for it,
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because hashtag is very
important for people who want
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to search the similar topic.
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(gentle music)
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The whole formula of the
performance is really simple.
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The people cosplay the tank man from 1989.
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All they need to do is
just dress up like him,
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with a white shirt, black
pants, and black shoes.
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And they also need to holding two bags.
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And that's it.
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- [Danny] Have you not ironed before?
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- [Badiucao] Nope.
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In real life, I'm not really a shirt guy.
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- [Danny] Do you wish Tank
Man had worn a T-shirt?
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- [Badiucao] Yeah.
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(gentle music)
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- [Reporter] It was an iconic
symbol of resistance in China.
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An unknown man with a shopping
bag, standing in front
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of several tanks in Tiananmen Square.
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On the 29th anniversary of the massacre,
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Chinese artist, Badiucao
who disguises himself
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out of fear of reprisals
from the Chinese government,
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has called on people all over the world
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to recreate the image,
using the hashtag, #tankman.
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- [Badiucao] Come here, I'll
tell you why I'm doing it.
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Thank you so much.
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- [Danny] They're standing on your plinth.
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- [Badiucao] That's how absurd this is.
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- [Danny] Yes, the 29th anniversary.
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- Oh.
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- [Danny] Of Tiananmen Square.
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- Tiananmen Square?
- Yeah.
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- Tiananmen?
- Yeah.
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(speaking foreign language)
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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- Why are you there?
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- [Danny] It's a protest.
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- I can't understand why
you should do something
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like that here.
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And it is not allowed
to take picture, okay?
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I protest.
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(dramatic music)
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- [Badiucao] Oh, this is one
of the former student leader
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from 1989 doing the performance.
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He was on the 5th of wanted list in 1989.
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- So he was the 5th most
wanted person in China in 1989?
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- [Badiucao] They had a list.
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- [Danny] So why is he standing there,
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and his face is fully exposed?
499
00:29:43,159 --> 00:29:45,439
You're sitting here, and
you can't even breathe.
500
00:29:45,439 --> 00:29:47,720
- [Badiucao] He is one
of the most wanted men.
501
00:29:49,439 --> 00:29:51,879
Really, for 29 years.
502
00:29:51,879 --> 00:29:53,439
You tell me.
503
00:29:53,439 --> 00:29:56,000
(gentle music)
504
00:30:05,639 --> 00:30:09,360
I have kept so much within,
that I can't share everything
505
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,319
with the one that I'm close
to, because it's dangerous.
506
00:30:13,319 --> 00:30:15,600
So in that sense, I'm really lonely.
507
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,479
I do feel quite depressed time to time.
508
00:30:18,479 --> 00:30:21,759
But fortunately art is a
method to rescue myself.
509
00:30:29,239 --> 00:30:32,560
- So let's call Tom about Hong Kong,
510
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,159
'cause I've got a few
concerns about Hong Kong.
511
00:30:34,159 --> 00:30:36,400
- [Badiucao] Hey Tom, how are you?
512
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,360
- Hey, how are you?
- I'm -
513
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:39,920
- [Tom] - hear your voice
after all these years.
514
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:40,720
(laughing)
515
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,360
- [Danny] Have you guys
ever spoken before?
516
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,239
- [Tom] No, I have no idea
what he looks like even,
517
00:30:45,239 --> 00:30:47,479
let alone name or anything.
518
00:30:47,479 --> 00:30:51,400
So suitably mysterious to me and the team.
519
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,759
- How is this gonna work?
520
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,439
Are you announcing in advance,
521
00:30:55,439 --> 00:30:58,600
that Badi's gonna be there or?
522
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,600
- [Tom] Well we certainly I
think in the next fortnight
523
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,920
need to start getting out
a poster, event stuff.
524
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,519
- [Badiucao] I think
personally I would feel
525
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:10,519
more comfortable that
there's no pre-announcement
526
00:31:10,879 --> 00:31:13,519
that I will actually--
527
00:31:13,519 --> 00:31:14,319
- [Tom] In Hong Kong?
528
00:31:14,319 --> 00:31:15,159
- [Badiucao] Yeah, yeah.
529
00:31:15,159 --> 00:31:17,439
- How risky is it for
us to come to Hong Kong?
530
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,079
- [Tom] Had you been
going to the mainland,
531
00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:24,839
I would be like... but you know,
you're coming to Hong Kong,
532
00:31:24,839 --> 00:31:28,360
and I don't think there's
anything to be concerned about.
533
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,319
- The Chinese authorities say Liu Xia
534
00:31:31,319 --> 00:31:32,439
is a free woman.
535
00:31:32,439 --> 00:31:35,560
This is what happens when
you try to visit her.
536
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,239
There is no need for that!
537
00:31:38,239 --> 00:31:40,039
We've been trying to
get to Liu Xia's home,
538
00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:41,400
which is where she has been held
539
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,920
under what amounts to house
arrest for the last seven years,
540
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,439
despite never herself being convicted
541
00:31:46,439 --> 00:31:48,560
or even accused of any crime.
542
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,479
(gentle music)
543
00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:56,079
- [Badiucao] She has been through hell.
544
00:31:56,079 --> 00:31:59,920
And at this moment, I think
she needs more attention
545
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,800
from the world.
546
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,400
(gentle music)
547
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:11,720
I did a body of the post
called "Who is Liu Xia"
548
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,200
which is modifying seven
of the very famous painting
549
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,239
In the history, they're
all featuring female.
550
00:32:19,239 --> 00:32:22,439
And my plan is to hold it
side by side against original.
551
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,400
(bright music)
552
00:32:39,639 --> 00:32:41,439
- Hey welcome, Badiucao.
553
00:32:41,439 --> 00:32:44,479
- Now I have my tank woman and tank man.
554
00:32:44,479 --> 00:32:46,400
- Yes! (laughing)
555
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,319
What I really like in your
campaigns is that you always
556
00:32:48,319 --> 00:32:51,600
make it very like, DIY for anyone to use.
557
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,959
Like, the street art thing
that you show with paste art,
558
00:32:54,959 --> 00:32:56,639
it was just amazing, I had nothing to do,
559
00:32:56,639 --> 00:32:59,239
I just need to print
and cut and that's it,
560
00:32:59,239 --> 00:33:01,519
like you even gave the
recipe for the glue.
561
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,639
- You will be getting inside the museum
562
00:33:05,639 --> 00:33:09,079
on another aisle, and
so you will have to walk
563
00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:11,879
a little bit more to get to Mona Lisa.
564
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,600
- We can see you getting changed?
565
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,239
Or can we not see?
566
00:33:20,239 --> 00:33:21,159
- [Badiucao] No.
567
00:33:21,159 --> 00:33:23,039
- 'Cause the identifying
of your body, basically?
568
00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:23,879
- [Badiucao] Yeah, I worry about Chinese
569
00:33:23,879 --> 00:33:26,360
seeing parts of my body.
- Okay, all right, fine.
570
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,280
So...
571
00:33:29,879 --> 00:33:32,119
- [Badiucao] Well what we
can do, is if we just focus
572
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:34,639
on leg, then you can see
the dress dropping off.
573
00:33:34,639 --> 00:33:36,479
- Yeah, or going over the head.
574
00:33:36,479 --> 00:33:37,720
- [Badiucao] It won't go over the head,
575
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:38,600
because it will make my--
576
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,959
- Over the shoulders, coming over, okay?
577
00:33:41,959 --> 00:33:44,639
(dynamic music)
578
00:33:57,859 --> 00:33:59,920
- [Badiucao] Would it be
too weird to wear a hat
579
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:01,100
in the museum?
580
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,400
(upbeat music)
581
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,879
- [Badiucao] Doing
performance art is basically
582
00:34:30,879 --> 00:34:33,000
A new experiment field for me.
583
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,639
It definitely brings
more challenge for me,
584
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:38,360
because it force me to
actually enter a public space
585
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,479
and show in front of people.
586
00:34:41,439 --> 00:34:44,360
(crowd chattering)
587
00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:03,360
- Hey, hey, hey, hey,
hey, what's happened?
588
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,239
What's happened?
589
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,400
Hey, hey, hey!
590
00:35:12,759 --> 00:35:14,079
Move!
591
00:35:17,479 --> 00:35:19,920
Okay, move, move, move, move!
592
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,680
(speaking foreign language)
593
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,000
Don't picture of that, okay!
594
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:33,000
Move, move.
595
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,720
Move, move.
596
00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:42,879
That's enough.
597
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,119
(tense music)
598
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,839
(gentle music)
599
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,360
- [Badiucao] Hi, are you Ursula?
600
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,680
- Yes.
- Yes, nice to meet you.
601
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:28,519
- Hi.
602
00:36:29,479 --> 00:36:30,319
- [Badiucao] I'm Badiucao.
603
00:36:30,319 --> 00:36:31,600
- Hello.
604
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:32,639
- [Danny] Do you think
the Chinese authorities
605
00:36:32,639 --> 00:36:33,879
know who he his?
606
00:36:33,879 --> 00:36:36,360
- They know everyone now.
607
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,639
This is the hugest height
I think dictatorship
608
00:36:40,639 --> 00:36:42,680
of the 21st century.
609
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,000
We were speaking about going to Hong Kong
610
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,200
to participate in some artistic things,
611
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,519
and I'm not sure that
Hong Kong is safe anymore.
612
00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:54,600
Because some people were abducted
613
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,680
from Hong Kong by the Chinese government.
614
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,039
(bell rings)
615
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,479
♪ Jump jive shooby-doo-wap ba-da-koo-ka ♪
616
00:37:05,479 --> 00:37:08,039
♪ Jump jive scooby dooby ♪
617
00:37:08,039 --> 00:37:10,839
♪ Jump jive shooby-doo-wap ba-da-koo-ka ♪
618
00:37:10,839 --> 00:37:13,119
♪ Jump jive scooby dooby ♪
619
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:15,600
♪ Jump jive shooby dooby doo-wap ♪
620
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,119
♪ Jive shooby-doo-wap ♪
621
00:37:18,119 --> 00:37:20,920
♪ Jive shooby-doo-wap ba-da-koo-ka ♪
622
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,200
♪ Jive scooby dooby ♪
623
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,360
♪ Jive shooby-doo-wap ♪
624
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,600
(shouting)
625
00:37:31,479 --> 00:37:35,159
(speaking foreign language)
626
00:38:35,319 --> 00:38:37,879
(gentle music)
627
00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:40,639
(tense music)
628
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,519
(gentle music)
629
00:42:26,519 --> 00:42:29,280
(dramatic music)
630
00:42:53,879 --> 00:42:57,759
- Hong Kong free press,
free expression week.
631
00:42:57,759 --> 00:43:01,839
[Badiucao] Here so far we have BBC, Vice,
632
00:43:01,839 --> 00:43:05,519
Time Magazine, AFP,
South China Morning Post,
633
00:43:05,519 --> 00:43:07,920
which is Hong Kong media as well.
634
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,200
- The response to it has been phenomenal.
635
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,039
And Gongle means, remind me?
636
00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:14,959
Oh, song of the Communist Party.
637
00:43:14,959 --> 00:43:17,119
So it's a play on words.
638
00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:19,519
Why did they say he came up on some list?
639
00:43:19,519 --> 00:43:21,239
And we couldn't insure him?
640
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,280
- You're on the naughty list.
- Yeah, they did say that
641
00:43:26,319 --> 00:43:30,319
you came up on the list.
- What list?
642
00:43:30,319 --> 00:43:33,959
- Your artist name came up
on one of the insurance lists
643
00:43:33,959 --> 00:43:37,319
as someone who shouldn't be insured.
644
00:43:37,319 --> 00:43:38,600
- [Badiucao] So who are the other guys?
645
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,479
Superman or Batman?
646
00:43:40,479 --> 00:43:42,400
(laughing)
647
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,119
What's the naughty list?
- I don't know,
648
00:43:44,119 --> 00:43:45,959
but you're on it.
649
00:43:45,959 --> 00:43:47,439
- All right, I spoke this morning
650
00:43:47,439 --> 00:43:51,879
to a lawyer consultant and he specializes
651
00:43:51,879 --> 00:43:56,560
in high risk filming scenarios.
652
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,600
With the media released out there,
653
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,280
and the show known, it's a big sign,
654
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,600
"Come and get me."
655
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,360
- [Badiucao] Anything around the location,
656
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,560
or any time around the time, is high risk.
657
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,200
- Correct.
- 'Cause that's the open
658
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,239
information, that's where the
authority will be looking at.
659
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,479
- If they wanna come in, they can come in.
660
00:44:17,479 --> 00:44:20,280
They do that, they go in,
they just take people.
661
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,560
Two big questions, do you one,
662
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,119
personally have to set up the exhibition?
663
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:28,400
And two, do you have to
be at the exhibition?
664
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,720
- [Badiucao] I wanna go, of course.
665
00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:32,479
I mean, after all, I'm the artist,
666
00:44:32,479 --> 00:44:35,200
and this is what my work is for.
667
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,720
- It's a matter of how much of a risk
668
00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:37,959
you're prepared to take.
669
00:44:42,879 --> 00:44:44,600
- [Badiucao] Can I
share something private?
670
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:45,439
- Yep.
671
00:44:47,079 --> 00:44:48,560
Kill the sound.
672
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:49,680
You turned off sound?
673
00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:53,600
(tense music)
674
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,839
That's a game changer for you.
675
00:45:02,839 --> 00:45:04,159
- Yeah.
- Everything changes
676
00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:05,319
for you then?
- Yeah, yeah.
677
00:45:06,879 --> 00:45:09,560
(phone ringing)
678
00:45:14,079 --> 00:45:14,920
- Hello?
- Hey Tom,
679
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,720
it's Danny and Badi.
680
00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:18,759
Listen, there's something
that we can't go into now
681
00:45:18,759 --> 00:45:21,879
over the phone, but how
do we put this Badi?
682
00:45:22,959 --> 00:45:25,039
(tense music)
683
00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:26,800
- [Badiucao] There is a
possibility that my identity
684
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,319
has been compromised in a way.
685
00:45:29,319 --> 00:45:31,319
- [Tom] Like, in recent weeks, or?
686
00:45:31,319 --> 00:45:32,759
- Yeah.
- Somehow.
687
00:45:32,759 --> 00:45:33,879
- Yeah.
- I see.
688
00:45:36,479 --> 00:45:39,639
- [Badiucao] So I just have
to reevaluate the whole risk
689
00:45:39,639 --> 00:45:41,280
of being in Hong Kong.
690
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,319
- [Tom] Explicit threats or something?
691
00:45:43,319 --> 00:45:45,079
This isn't China, first off.
692
00:45:45,079 --> 00:45:47,759
At the very maximum, someone would be sent
693
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,519
to check it out, or to
take photos, that's all.
694
00:45:52,519 --> 00:45:56,560
- [Badiucao] The concern
is that the possible
695
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:01,560
compromised information
is not the entire one.
696
00:46:02,039 --> 00:46:03,839
- [Tom] You mean your entire name?
697
00:46:03,839 --> 00:46:07,079
- [Badiucao] Yeah, they
have a piece of information
698
00:46:07,079 --> 00:46:08,519
and it's not complete.
- Yeah.
699
00:46:08,519 --> 00:46:10,360
- [Badiucao] My entry might just complete
700
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:11,600
the puzzle for them.
701
00:46:12,439 --> 00:46:15,759
- [Danny] So what, you made
like one mistake, potentially?
702
00:46:15,759 --> 00:46:17,680
- Yeah.
- And that could
703
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,560
tell them everything.
- Yeah.
704
00:46:22,519 --> 00:46:23,920
- [Reporter] There's another
worrisome development
705
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,560
in Hong Kong, critics of
the Communist authorities
706
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,319
have been getting abducted,
this in a city where people
707
00:46:29,319 --> 00:46:32,560
are supposed to be able to
freely speak their minds.
708
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,360
(tense music)
709
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,720
- [Badiucao] I don't have the
desire to prove I'm a hero.
710
00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:39,879
I'm probably the most coward people
711
00:46:39,879 --> 00:46:41,560
you'll meet in your life.
712
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,720
That's why I'm doing all the precautions.
713
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,119
And I think being aware
of encouraging more people
714
00:46:49,119 --> 00:46:52,680
to act like me, it's okay to be a coward.
715
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,079
Of course, everybody
likes people being brave,
716
00:46:56,079 --> 00:46:59,479
but what is more realistic
is people can be coward
717
00:46:59,479 --> 00:47:01,239
if they still make a change.
718
00:47:02,439 --> 00:47:05,920
- So what's the latest Badi?
719
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,920
- I've just decide that
it will be too risky
720
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,959
to go Hong Kong for the show.
721
00:47:13,959 --> 00:47:15,839
- [Danny] Are you really disappointed?
722
00:47:15,839 --> 00:47:20,839
- [Badiucao] Yeah, it's like
you have a new born baby
723
00:47:21,879 --> 00:47:24,319
but you're not allowed to see him or her.
724
00:47:24,319 --> 00:47:27,360
- [Danny] So just practically speaking,
725
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:32,360
you're going to be directing
the setup virtually, right?
726
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:33,400
- Yeah.
- I'll be filming
727
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,000
the setup in Hong Kong.
- Yeah.
728
00:47:36,879 --> 00:47:39,479
(gentle music)
729
00:47:50,119 --> 00:47:52,000
(phone ringing)
730
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,039
- Hello?
- Hi, it's Raph.
731
00:47:55,039 --> 00:47:58,400
Badi is fucking terrified.
732
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,759
They've managed to find
his number and call him.
733
00:48:01,759 --> 00:48:02,759
- [Danny] Oh God.
734
00:48:02,759 --> 00:48:04,400
- [Raphael] He's on his way here now.
735
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,519
- [Danny] Call me when he gets to you,
736
00:48:05,519 --> 00:48:08,439
and we'll just, I've
got, I've got, oh God.
737
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,839
(phone ringing)
738
00:48:11,839 --> 00:48:13,560
Yeah, what's going on?
739
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,800
- [Badiucao] So okay, they know who I am,
740
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,680
they contact my family.
741
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,839
They want me to call out the show.
742
00:48:21,839 --> 00:48:24,159
Otherwise they will do something to me
743
00:48:24,159 --> 00:48:25,560
and to my family.
744
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:26,519
They find my fucking family,
745
00:48:26,519 --> 00:48:28,759
to prove they know who I am.
746
00:48:28,759 --> 00:48:30,239
- [Danny] Fuck.
747
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,959
Let me speak to Tom, and
let me call you back.
748
00:48:33,959 --> 00:48:36,400
- [Badiucao] Do safe
way, be cautious, okay?
749
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,519
- [Danny] I will, I will, okay, okay, bye.
750
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:40,959
- [Badiucao] Yeah, bye.
751
00:48:40,959 --> 00:48:42,000
(phone ringing)
752
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,479
- [Danny] Tom?
753
00:48:43,479 --> 00:48:44,680
- Yes.
- Okay, listen,
754
00:48:45,519 --> 00:48:47,400
some bad stuff has happened.
755
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:52,400
Badi got a call, police went
to family of his in China,
756
00:48:55,639 --> 00:48:58,879
and to get the message
to close the exhibition,
757
00:48:58,879 --> 00:49:01,479
not to go ahead with the exhibition.
758
00:49:01,479 --> 00:49:03,039
- [Tom] God.
759
00:49:03,039 --> 00:49:05,519
I mean am I safe saying that like,
760
00:49:05,519 --> 00:49:07,159
this has nothing to do with this event?
761
00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:09,039
That his identity was blown?
762
00:49:09,039 --> 00:49:11,519
- I've got no idea.
- 'Cause I don't know his name
763
00:49:11,519 --> 00:49:12,479
or who he is, I would never--
764
00:49:12,479 --> 00:49:15,239
- [Danny] No, no, no, no,
no, no, no and neither do we.
765
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:17,280
- [Tom] Fuck sake.
766
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,200
(tense music)
767
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:21,000
(phone ringing)
768
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:21,839
- [Danny] Badi?
769
00:49:22,759 --> 00:49:24,759
- Yeah.
- How are your family?
770
00:49:26,519 --> 00:49:27,439
- [Badiucao] Not well.
771
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,239
Need get them out, but it's impossible.
772
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,560
- [Danny] Just call me when
you're up in the morning.
773
00:49:34,519 --> 00:49:36,879
- [Badiucao] I don't
think I'm gonna sleep man.
774
00:49:36,879 --> 00:49:38,680
- [Danny] I'm so sorry, Badi.
775
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,159
I'm so sorry.
776
00:49:40,159 --> 00:49:42,680
(tense music)
777
00:49:53,119 --> 00:49:54,920
- How you going?
- How are you doing?
778
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,079
- Good, good to meet.
779
00:49:56,079 --> 00:49:58,600
Tell you what, this whole
experience is great for paranoia.
780
00:49:59,479 --> 00:50:02,159
- Yeah, I feel a little bit naive now.
781
00:50:02,159 --> 00:50:03,560
(sighs)
782
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:04,680
- [Badiucao] Yeah.
783
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,959
I don't even know if
this is still necessary.
784
00:50:06,959 --> 00:50:09,759
- [Raphael] Well maybe
just stick with the beanie.
785
00:50:09,759 --> 00:50:12,839
- [Badiucao] I mean, it's
like, they know me now.
786
00:50:12,839 --> 00:50:16,439
Yeah, so what's the purpose to hide?
787
00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:23,079
So, obviously this is a
really awful decision.
788
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,759
Yeah, I'm just thinking about living.
789
00:50:28,639 --> 00:50:33,639
Now I just need to focus on
how to get them out of there.
790
00:50:34,639 --> 00:50:36,079
- It's dark, you know, in here,
791
00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:39,519
so this is gonna be the
stage with the projection.
792
00:50:39,519 --> 00:50:41,800
- It's ideal, yeah.
- That's the torture chair,
793
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:42,879
the tiger chair.
794
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:45,839
(sighs)
795
00:50:45,839 --> 00:50:48,519
- [Badiucao] This is
life changing situation.
796
00:50:49,759 --> 00:50:52,400
- And how are you feeling
about the fact that Badiucao
797
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,959
is an artist who's
potentially going on hiatus?
798
00:50:58,119 --> 00:50:59,400
Or is he dead?
799
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,319
- [Badiucao] To be honest,
I can't think of that.
800
00:51:03,319 --> 00:51:08,159
It will drag me to the abyss.
801
00:51:08,159 --> 00:51:09,680
- This is them.
- Okay.
802
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,600
Well, I mean, Ai Weiwei
has told him he thinks
803
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,039
he should reveal himself.
804
00:51:17,639 --> 00:51:19,600
- Does Ai Weiwei have family back home?
805
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,360
- I don't know, it's also
easier once you've been
806
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,600
in the gulag in China,
that they know who you are,
807
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,439
they know who everyone is.
- Exactly yeah,
808
00:51:28,439 --> 00:51:30,839
once it's blown, it's blown.
809
00:51:30,839 --> 00:51:31,720
- Hey.
- Hi.
810
00:51:31,720 --> 00:51:33,400
- We should hear from you, 'cause I mean,
811
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:34,600
what's your inkling?
812
00:51:35,519 --> 00:51:37,079
- [Badiucao] Yeah, I really don't know how
813
00:51:37,079 --> 00:51:39,039
to make this decision.
814
00:51:39,039 --> 00:51:43,400
If I just give up my family,
do I still have a heart?
815
00:51:44,639 --> 00:51:48,039
If I give up myself, do
I still have a heart?
816
00:51:49,720 --> 00:51:50,959
(phone dings)
817
00:51:50,959 --> 00:51:52,400
I just have a new information,
818
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:56,360
another member of my family
has been reached by police.
819
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,680
- It's really a no-win situation isn't it?
820
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,920
We could cancel the show, and all of this,
821
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,400
but that doesn't mean family
are gonna be just allowed
822
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:07,800
to swan out and leave.
823
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,720
- It's not possible to get
your family out of China,
824
00:52:13,720 --> 00:52:16,360
between now and tomorrow night.
825
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,400
What are you doing about the exhibition?
826
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,879
(tense music)
827
00:52:21,879 --> 00:52:24,519
You've got to make a decision
about the exhibition.
828
00:52:24,519 --> 00:52:26,039
- [Badiucao] You mean now, or?
829
00:52:26,039 --> 00:52:28,800
- [Tom] You could maybe
get back to us before 12.
830
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:29,639
- What's the time now?
831
00:52:29,639 --> 00:52:30,560
- 20 past.
- How far away is that?
832
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:31,639
- 40 minutes.
833
00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:35,239
- [Badiucao] I gotta make a call first.
834
00:52:48,479 --> 00:52:51,239
- A message from my production
manager in Australia.
835
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,479
The second relative was told by the people
836
00:52:53,479 --> 00:52:56,639
who visited that they
would be at the exhibition.
837
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,119
- As in the Chinese authorities?
838
00:52:59,119 --> 00:53:00,280
Right.
839
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:01,119
Fuck sake.
840
00:53:02,119 --> 00:53:04,400
- Seriously?
- Coming to the exhibition.
841
00:53:05,639 --> 00:53:09,119
- [Badiucao] Now, the only
thing I have or I can work
842
00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:10,800
with is saving my family.
843
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,280
And that's not even in my hand.
844
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:19,079
I have the decision to
call off the show or not.
845
00:53:19,079 --> 00:53:20,519
That's the part in my hand.
846
00:53:21,519 --> 00:53:22,839
- Okay, so what's our plan?
847
00:53:22,839 --> 00:53:26,239
It's now 20 to 12, and we're
speaking to Badi in 20 minutes.
848
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,360
- Maybe I start filling in the team a bit.
849
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,479
I wondered if I could
have your advice actually
850
00:53:31,479 --> 00:53:33,039
and speak to you in confidence.
851
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:35,839
(phone ringing)
852
00:53:35,839 --> 00:53:37,360
We wanted some advice from Amnesty,
853
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,479
I don't know if you're the man to do that?
854
00:53:39,479 --> 00:53:43,000
- If he calls it off, well
then, are his family fine?
855
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,839
Or does it make no difference, basically?
856
00:53:45,839 --> 00:53:50,839
- So I wondered how comfortable
RSF is in what you wanna say.
857
00:53:51,319 --> 00:53:53,319
Okay, we'll hear from
you in five minutes ish.
858
00:53:53,319 --> 00:53:54,159
Say that again.
859
00:53:54,159 --> 00:53:55,560
Say that again?
860
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:56,720
The family visits.
861
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,479
You would cancel?
862
00:53:59,479 --> 00:54:01,560
(dramatic music)
862
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:02,400
- Are you there?
863
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,239
- Yeah.
- Okay.
864
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:05,360
- Badi?
- Yep.
865
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,039
- Is Badi there?
- Yeah, I'm here.
866
00:54:07,039 --> 00:54:10,159
- The decision's been taken
out of your hands, Badi.
867
00:54:10,159 --> 00:54:14,119
- With my staff, HKFP and
The Hive involved as well,
868
00:54:14,119 --> 00:54:16,720
and the fact that we've
learnt that there were going
869
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,839
to be some characters showing up tomorrow,
870
00:54:19,839 --> 00:54:21,879
I guess that's it, I'm sorry.
871
00:54:23,159 --> 00:54:25,479
There doesn't seem to
be any other solution,
872
00:54:25,479 --> 00:54:27,319
but you're a very brave man,
873
00:54:27,319 --> 00:54:32,079
and I'm very sorry that
all this has happened.
874
00:54:32,079 --> 00:54:34,639
(gentle music)
875
00:54:38,839 --> 00:54:41,079
We know we're gonna get
a lot of questions right,
876
00:54:41,079 --> 00:54:42,319
and they're gonna be very persistent,
877
00:54:42,319 --> 00:54:46,000
but we have to be very disciplined
to not say anything more.
878
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,759
No staff in the video, sorry.
879
00:54:50,759 --> 00:54:53,600
It's all off, we're about
to have a media shit storm,
880
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,000
'cause the story's gonna be bigger
881
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,159
than if we had just done it.
882
00:54:58,319 --> 00:55:01,039
(dramatic music)
883
00:55:25,839 --> 00:55:28,400
(gentle music)
884
00:55:41,119 --> 00:55:44,159
- [Badiucao] See that, ant.
885
00:55:44,159 --> 00:55:45,200
Trying to carry that.
886
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:46,839
That's me.
887
00:55:46,839 --> 00:55:49,479
All my family is the orange thing.
888
00:55:49,479 --> 00:55:51,200
I'm trying to moving them out.
889
00:55:52,119 --> 00:55:53,560
That's my epiphany moment.
890
00:55:54,959 --> 00:55:56,920
- [Danny] It's a lot of
load to carry, Badi.
891
00:55:58,519 --> 00:56:01,560
So, I'm recording sound.
- Yeah.
892
00:56:02,519 --> 00:56:04,800
- [Danny] Did you say we
could record picture too?
893
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:07,759
- [Badiucao] They know me now.
894
00:56:09,159 --> 00:56:10,000
Yeah.
895
00:56:14,439 --> 00:56:15,720
- [Danny] So this is you.
896
00:56:18,319 --> 00:56:19,159
- That's me.
897
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,839
(birds singing)
898
00:56:34,639 --> 00:56:37,319
(gentle music)
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