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Did you know what
was going on in your name
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on the day of the Families First vote?
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Were you using lobbyists?
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I would never, ever let that happen.
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And if it had happened,
which it absolutely did not,
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I would make sure that
something was done about it.
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Absolutely damn sure.
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So this wasn't a matter for Congress?
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Well, I am certain that Congress,
and my opponents for that matter,
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have better things to do with their time,
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like getting down to the
business of government.
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And let me repeat myself again
and say to the American people
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that there is not one ounce
of truth to these allegations.
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- Madam President...
- Not one ounce of truth to these allegations.
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Thank you very much. That's
all the time I have for today.
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Thank you.
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Don't touch me.
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Do you solemnly swear
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that the testimony you're
about to give is the truth,
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the whole truth, and nothing
but the truth, so help you God?
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- I do.
- Yes, I do.
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Absolutely. Yes, sir, I do.
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Mr. Cafferty, pardon me being blunt,
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but why did Families First fail?
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It happens. Rain gonna fall,
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bar's gonna close, bill's gonna fail.
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There's a job for you at
Hallmark, Mr. Cafferty.
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You don't seem upset that the bill failed.
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If I had kids, which actually I do,
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this bill would be my baby.
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I and the entire White House,
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we sweated a full transfusion of blood
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to pass this bill.
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So Jonah Ryan wasn't sent
here to defend the bill,
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to deliberately undermine it?
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No. No. Read my luscious lips, no.
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We were consultants, not lobbyists.
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And what's the difference?
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You ask to be consulted.
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A consultant consults the client,
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whereas a lobbyist lobbies
on behalf of the client.
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You're not telling me the difference,
you're just turning nouns into verbs.
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So you were consulting people to
vote against the Families First Bill?
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Yes. Yes, we were.
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That's exactly what they were doing.
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Excuse me, Mr. Ryan. We
didn't ask for your commentary
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on the veracity of their testimonies.
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Oh, I'm very sorry, sir.
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I'm sorry that I misconducted myself
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and I will not do that in to the future.
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What is your assessment of
Ms. Brookheimer and Mr. Egan?
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Oh, Ms. Brookheimer is a strong,
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independent, flexible woman.
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And Lord knows there aren't
enough of those in DC.
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And Mr. Egan?
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Uh, Dan Egan is a solid
five and a half, weak six.
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Can you tell us who was
responsible for the data breach?
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No. Well, I mean, yes.
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Yes, it's a matter of public record
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that Dan Egan was fired
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because of his relation to the data breach.
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I mean, you could have Googled that.
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Wait, that's not my question.
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Was he responsible?
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Washington needed a sacrifice,
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so we all ran and took out our pitchforks
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and we set fire to the wicker Dan.
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Okay, so why did he deserve
to go if he was innocent?
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You make it sound like
there's a correlation
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between what should happen
and what actually happens.
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I mean, life is chaotic
and it's often unfair.
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I know it is for me.
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Dan Egan deserved to go,
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so he went.
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Sure, I love money.
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But there's something else that I love
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and it's a little lady called
the United States of America.
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And Ms. Brookheimer and I
are here today as patriots
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speaking up for the common citizen,
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be that individual an actual
person or a corporation.
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That shoehorned stab at nobility
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- will not fly here.
- Okay.
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Ms. Brookheimer, are you
guided purely by money?
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I think it's interesting that you
chose me to aim that question at,
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insinuating that I am a money-grabbing,
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careerist,
low-moraled...
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I don't know why I'm helping you here.
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There is no need to be
shrill, Ms. Brookheimer.
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- Shrill?
- Mmm.
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Do you recall a document
shared on the J-drive
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titled the Jonad Files?
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- Uh, no. No, ma'am.
- No. That doesn't ring a bell.
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So it's not a word
combining Jonah and gonad?
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- Not to my knowledge.
- I can confirm
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that that is exactly what it
is and Mr. Egan knows that.
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In fact, Mr. Egan, I was told
that you encouraged staffers
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to add to this glossary of abuse.
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I do not at this moment
in time recall the action
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nor the document in question.
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Okay, maybe this will jog your
memory. We have some extracts.
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J-Rock, Jizzy Gillespie,
Jack and the Giant Jackoff,
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Gaylien, Tinker Balls,
Wadzilla, One Erection...
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Do we have to go through all of these?
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I'm not sure that I see the relevance.
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The witnesses claim they
held their former colleague
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in high regard and I am
attempting to prove otherwise.
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Okay, yeah, sure. No, you can proceed.
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The Pointless Giant, The 60-Foot Virgin,
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Gimpanzee, Jonah Ono, Hagrid's Nutsack,
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Scrotum Pole, Transgenderformers,
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12 Years a Slave to Jerking Off,
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Benedict Come In His Own Hand,
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Guyscraper, The Cloud Botherer,
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Supercalifragilisticexpiali
Dick Cheese,
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Teenage Mutant Ninja Asshole, Spewbacca.
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My college friends
called me Tall McCartney.
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I preferred that. That's a good nickname.
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Fractious cracks have opened
up in your relationships
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and in your testimony and we'll
explore them in a later session.
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Do you solemnly swear that the testimony
you're about to give is the truth,
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the whole truth, and nothing
but the truth, so help you God?
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I do.
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You were fired from the White
House in April. Is that correct?
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Yes. The drama queen in me likes to say
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that they sacrificed me at Easter.
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Uh, you've been described as the scapegoat.
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Were you in fact responsible
for the HIV data breach?
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No, I value confidentiality and
paradoxically I don't care who knows it.
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Why were you fired?
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To conceal something bigger.
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They thought I was a mouse.
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Well, this mouse will roar.
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Ms. Patterson, you better tell
us what that something bigger is.
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Someone from the campaign
used child mortality data
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from the same federal breach that
named Jennifer Graham as an HIV victim.
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Used to what end?
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To deliberately target bereaved parents
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for a campaign mailer called I Care.
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Okay, so this is how it's gonna work.
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I'm gonna give you everything
you need in a nice little box
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with a pretty red ribbon on it and then
I'm gonna walk away a free man, okay?
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- Rat and roll. Deal?
- Go on.
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The thing about
Lee Patterson...
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She doesn't even know
why she was scapegoated.
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Okay? I do. It's because the
child mortality data was used...
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Yeah, was used to target
bereaved parents. We know that already.
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Ms. Patterson's talking
to the committee right now.
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- Yes.
- Okay, going deeper here.
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That data was actually
taken from the same...
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Yeah, it was from the same breach
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which identified the HIV girl.
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We know all
that. - Mm-hmm.
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Guys, we still have a deal, right?
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Ms. Patterson, you are
aware that your accusations
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about the data breach will have serious
repercussions for you and the others?
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I understand the dangers
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and how you're well-placed
to remind me of them.
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You're insinuating that my
close personal friendship
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with the president might cloud my judgment?
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No, not at all.
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Your judgment, ma'am, is unimpeachable.
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Did the president know
about the data breach?
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No, just the people around her.
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Bill Ericsson and Gary
Walsh were closest to her.
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Which is how I know
that Bill Ericsson...
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Knew about the data breach.
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Are you on some kind
of satellite delay, Mr. Egan?
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With respect to Lee Patterson,
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she had no real idea, no concept
of what was actually happening.
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I mean, she was so junior, she may
have well been working in the kitchens,
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with all due respect to the kitchens.
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But for the record, Ms. Patterson
was a very competent staffer
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and what Jimmy Cagney would have called
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a good kid in my opinion.
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I'll wait for a question.
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We have a deposition from a witness
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confirming that you, Mr. Ericsson,
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ordered Dan Egan to fire Ms. Patterson.
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This is what I was afraid
of. I'm being snowballed.
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- I'm a victim of snowballing.
- What do you mean, Mr. Ericsson?
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Well, a name gets mentioned,
then gets mentioned again,
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and pretty soon everyone is mentioning it
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and then the whole thing snowballs
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and then there's an avalanche of snowballs
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and I'm being buried by other people's snow
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and it's not pure driven, it's not
white snow, if you catch my drift.
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I certainly caught their
drift. Do I make sense?
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- Am I making sense?
- Calm... calm down.
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Isn't snowballing
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what you did to Lee Patterson
when you had her fired?
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No, that was scapegoating.
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Again, apologies.
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You haven't asked me a question.
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What is the difference between
scapegoating and snowballing?
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It's not my fault. That's the difference.
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Is that... is
that making sense?
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It's not my fault is my basic point.
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I mean, why I am being raked over the coals
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for the misuse of data in the campaign when
I'm sitting next to the campaign manager?
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Oh, that's... bravo,
Bill. Subtly done.
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Mr. Davison, you are President
Meyer's campaign manager, yes?
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Yes, ma'am. Though not
at the time of the breach.
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But you were aware of it at the time
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and yet you chose to say nothing?
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Well, though it may appear
that there was nothing going on,
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I can assure you
that there was...
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There was lots going on underneath.
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Like a swan or Professor Hawking.
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Who else, then, was involved?
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Gary. Gary Walsh.
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The president's bagman?
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Yeah, he's the guy.
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But... okay, you ever
seen "Usual Suspects"?
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I haven't seen it.
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Okay, well, he's
Keyser... I mean...
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You haven't seen it, so forget it.
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Gary's the guy who got Amy
Brookheimer and I involved.
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He's the bagman, yeah,
but he's also the bad man.
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Mr. Walsh, several people
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have now described you as
being at the center of events,
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so I was wondering if you
could please outline to us
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your duties and your responsibilities.
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Is there a problem, Mr. Walsh?
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I'm sorry. It's
just when I was...
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When I was originally summoned,
it was a smaller hearing
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and executive privileges were waived
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and now it's like a U2 concert.
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Well, we are investigating malpractice
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possibly leading to criminal investigation.
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Might you unwaive your executive privilege?
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Hmm.
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Uh-huh. He says not to, so...
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Would you say you were
friendly with Dan Egan?
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Yes, I'm friendly with Dan Egan.
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I... we're
friends, yes.
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You were seen with him and Amy Brookheimer
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on the day of the Families First vote.
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Mm-hmm.
Uh-huh.
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Yeah.
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Dan is not my friend.
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He's a colleague.
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I don't know why I said we were friends.
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That's a fault of mine...
Just kind of believing
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that people were friends
and they're not friends.
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It's kind of been going
on since middle school
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and you just caught me at a bad time.
247
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You're probably correct to
distance yourself from Mr. Egan.
248
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How would you describe your working
relationship with the president?
249
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Uh, it's very intimate.
250
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I've always imagined
myself as like a pipeline
251
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who carries a lot of necessary information
252
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and I just feed it directly into her head.
253
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Madam President, can I confirm
you've waived executive privilege?
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Yes.
255
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Though it is no privilege to have to endure
256
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this investigation, I can tell you that.
257
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But I'm happy to assist
in any way that I can.
258
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Can you tell me
anything about the breach
259
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- of federal data used in your campaign material?
- No.
260
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You said that you'd
help this inquiry in any way.
261
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Yes, and I have just then.
262
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Did the president know about the lobbying
263
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against the Families First Bill?
264
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I'm a nobody.
265
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That's the truth. I'm a nobody.
266
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I'm just the guy that, like, whispers names
267
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to the president and I
tell her facts about people.
268
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So you're just a prompter?
269
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Uh-huh.
270
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I'm a man who prompts, that is correct.
271
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So all the talk of being the president's
pipeline was just bigheadedness?
272
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Yeah. Yeah.
273
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I'm an arrogant man.
274
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I'm not a powerful, guilty, arrogant man.
275
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I'm an arrogant man.
276
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So you wouldn't have contact,
in other words, with lobbyists?
277
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No. No.
278
00:12:50,447 --> 00:12:54,449
Actually, Catherine's
fiancé Jason is a lobbyist,
279
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so at times, yeah.
280
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Really? Until now he's been
referred to as a consultant.
281
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Mmm.
282
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Are you concerned with your
daughter being engaged to a lobbyist?
283
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No, not at all.
284
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And he's not actually a lobbyist.
285
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He's a
consultant, so...
286
00:13:11,585 --> 00:13:13,251
But your bagman Gary Walsh
287
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referred to him as a lobbyist.
288
00:13:18,342 --> 00:13:22,093
Um, Gary has a very limited set of skills.
289
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Mainly I would say they
are picking objects up
290
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and then putting objects back down.
291
00:13:27,601 --> 00:13:30,602
He said he takes care
of your sanitary needs.
292
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Is that correct?
293
00:13:32,439 --> 00:13:35,240
Yeah...
Yeah... what?
294
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You say your daughter's fiancé
Mr. Read is not a lobbyist,
295
00:13:37,661 --> 00:13:39,577
and yet the firm of Merryman & Cotter
296
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lists him under the title of lobbyist
297
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in the "our lobbyists"
section of its website.
298
00:13:44,534 --> 00:13:46,584
Well, that's their
word. That's not my word.
299
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He is a lobbyist
for Christian Aid, Oxfam,
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00:13:48,672 --> 00:13:50,121
the World Health Organization.
301
00:13:50,173 --> 00:13:52,007
Mm-hmm, well, he sounds like a decent guy,
302
00:13:52,042 --> 00:13:53,508
whatever you want to call him.
303
00:13:53,543 --> 00:13:56,127
Also lobbying for
pharmaceutical companies,
304
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large IT organizations, investment banks.
305
00:14:00,133 --> 00:14:02,767
Yes, my fiancé is a lobbyist.
306
00:14:02,803 --> 00:14:05,520
Does that present any
difficulties in your relationship?
307
00:14:05,555 --> 00:14:08,023
Not apart from the fact that
I am now sitting in a room
308
00:14:08,058 --> 00:14:10,475
with two strangers
talking about it on camera.
309
00:14:10,477 --> 00:14:12,811
You don't like being questioned?
310
00:14:12,813 --> 00:14:14,979
Not about my personal life, no, I don't.
311
00:14:14,981 --> 00:14:17,565
I mean, do you? Assuming that you have one.
312
00:14:17,617 --> 00:14:19,150
I don't see that you're
wearing a ring, so...
313
00:14:19,202 --> 00:14:21,619
Ms. Meyer, you're gently
reminded that this is a deposition.
314
00:14:21,655 --> 00:14:23,238
I won't be as polite next time.
315
00:14:23,290 --> 00:14:25,990
Um, I'm sorry. Can I please take a minute?
316
00:14:26,043 --> 00:14:28,460
- Sure, yeah. Of course.
- Thank you.
317
00:14:31,882 --> 00:14:34,833
I'm sorry about that. I
just had to get a snack.
318
00:14:34,835 --> 00:14:36,668
My blood sugar was dropping, so...
319
00:14:36,670 --> 00:14:39,137
That's okay.
320
00:14:39,172 --> 00:14:40,839
Do you not see the
conflict of interest?
321
00:14:40,891 --> 00:14:42,507
I mean, we are investigating direct links
322
00:14:42,559 --> 00:14:45,310
- between lobbyists and your administration.
- Yes, I see it.
323
00:14:45,345 --> 00:14:48,897
- Does it not concern you?
- If you would just let me finish my sentence,
324
00:14:48,932 --> 00:14:51,649
that would be very much appreciated.
325
00:14:51,685 --> 00:14:52,767
I do see it.
326
00:14:52,819 --> 00:14:55,937
It is also my understanding
327
00:14:55,989 --> 00:14:59,524
that they may no longer be engaged.
328
00:14:59,576 --> 00:15:01,076
So...
329
00:15:01,111 --> 00:15:03,194
They've split up?
330
00:15:06,032 --> 00:15:08,199
Um, I think...
331
00:15:08,251 --> 00:15:10,502
they may have split up.
332
00:15:10,537 --> 00:15:13,705
In addition to that, I will
say that I'm really not certain
333
00:15:13,757 --> 00:15:16,291
that Jac... Ja... Jason was
ever right for Catherine.
334
00:15:16,343 --> 00:15:18,293
But you just said that he was sweet.
335
00:15:18,378 --> 00:15:21,212
Mm-hmm. He can be sweet at one moment
336
00:15:21,214 --> 00:15:23,715
and then he can be very
controlling in the next moment.
337
00:15:23,767 --> 00:15:28,052
You know, lobbying for Oxfam,
or then lobbying for PhRMA.
338
00:15:28,054 --> 00:15:30,555
And I meant consulting.
339
00:15:30,607 --> 00:15:33,057
I have to go. I've got to
call the president of Africa.
340
00:15:33,110 --> 00:15:36,644
So... I mean South Africa
specifically, you know, so...
341
00:15:38,398 --> 00:15:40,398
Ms. Wilson, it has been said of you
342
00:15:40,450 --> 00:15:43,701
that you could organize the D-Day landings
343
00:15:43,737 --> 00:15:46,404
and still have time left over for Iwo Jima.
344
00:15:46,406 --> 00:15:49,908
And, unlike in reality, I would
have gotten Iwo Jima right.
345
00:15:49,910 --> 00:15:52,877
And yet this meeting between the president
346
00:15:52,913 --> 00:15:56,881
and Congressman Pierce, you have
no record of that in your schedule.
347
00:15:56,917 --> 00:15:59,000
Congressman Pierce was not disposed
348
00:15:59,052 --> 00:16:01,469
in a manner that was
indicative of a meeting.
349
00:16:01,505 --> 00:16:03,805
I literally have no idea
what that sentence means.
350
00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,091
There's a difference between meeting
someone and having a meeting with them.
351
00:16:07,144 --> 00:16:08,343
I mean, I once met Bill Gates,
352
00:16:08,395 --> 00:16:10,261
but I didn't have a "meeting" with him.
353
00:16:10,313 --> 00:16:13,064
We keep meticulous, exhaustive records
354
00:16:13,099 --> 00:16:15,350
of emails, voice memos,
355
00:16:15,402 --> 00:16:17,101
text messages,
letters...
356
00:16:17,103 --> 00:16:20,104
Chairman, we have all the
emails, letters, texts,
357
00:16:20,157 --> 00:16:23,992
but you mentioned voice memos, Ms. Wilson.
358
00:16:26,196 --> 00:16:27,745
Yes.
359
00:16:27,781 --> 00:16:32,450
Well, we have many forms of communication.
360
00:16:32,502 --> 00:16:36,037
None of which you seem to be able
to master at the present moment.
361
00:16:36,089 --> 00:16:38,006
Well, I wasn't responsible
for the voice memos.
362
00:16:38,041 --> 00:16:40,792
- So who would know about...
- Mike McLintock.
363
00:16:53,473 --> 00:16:54,806
Mr. McLintock, please rise
364
00:16:54,858 --> 00:16:57,475
and raise your right hand.
365
00:16:57,477 --> 00:17:01,646
Do you solemnly swear that the testimony
you're about to give is the truth,
366
00:17:01,648 --> 00:17:04,199
the whole truth, and nothing
but the truth, so help you God?
367
00:17:04,234 --> 00:17:07,569
So help me God. I do.
368
00:17:07,621 --> 00:17:09,537
We have a witness go on record
369
00:17:09,573 --> 00:17:12,574
saying that they saw you in
the White House parking lot
370
00:17:12,626 --> 00:17:16,411
with Mr. Egan, Ms.
Brookheimer, and Senator Pierce.
371
00:17:16,463 --> 00:17:18,496
That's correct.
372
00:17:18,498 --> 00:17:21,916
I ran into them by chance
373
00:17:21,968 --> 00:17:26,888
because I was merely getting
something from my car.
374
00:17:26,923 --> 00:17:29,257
- What were you getting?
- I'm sorry?
375
00:17:29,309 --> 00:17:30,725
What were you getting?
376
00:17:30,810 --> 00:17:34,312
Uh, I was getting some medicine.
377
00:17:34,347 --> 00:17:35,513
What kind of medicine?
378
00:17:35,565 --> 00:17:38,683
Um, it's knee medicine.
379
00:17:38,685 --> 00:17:41,686
Knee medicine?
380
00:17:41,738 --> 00:17:42,987
Yeah, knee medicine.
381
00:17:43,023 --> 00:17:46,774
For one of... just
one of my knees.
382
00:17:46,826 --> 00:17:49,360
- Which one?
- Which knee?
383
00:17:49,412 --> 00:17:52,330
My left... left knee,
Your Honor, sir.
384
00:17:52,365 --> 00:17:55,617
My left knee. I have
problems with my left knee.
385
00:17:55,669 --> 00:17:58,002
Um, it hurts when I crouch.
386
00:17:58,038 --> 00:17:59,504
What was the name of the medicine?
387
00:17:59,539 --> 00:18:02,340
Um, I want to say it's called...
388
00:18:04,678 --> 00:18:06,544
Crouch Cream.
389
00:18:07,764 --> 00:18:09,213
But that's not right.
390
00:18:09,266 --> 00:18:12,383
It's a white tube with a red label.
391
00:18:12,435 --> 00:18:14,519
I'm sure an intern could research this.
392
00:18:14,554 --> 00:18:16,554
It has a silhouette of a horse on it.
393
00:18:16,556 --> 00:18:18,640
I don't know why the horse is on there.
394
00:18:18,692 --> 00:18:20,725
I guess horses probably have good knees.
395
00:18:20,777 --> 00:18:24,112
So, um... but I
think it's called...
396
00:18:25,815 --> 00:18:29,150
Knee-Z.
Knee-Z Cream.
397
00:18:29,202 --> 00:18:31,319
I don't think that's it. It's searchable.
398
00:18:31,371 --> 00:18:33,705
I'm very positive.
399
00:18:33,740 --> 00:18:37,542
Thank you for allowing me to
attend to presidential matters.
400
00:18:37,577 --> 00:18:40,378
We still wish to
consider the outstanding issues
401
00:18:40,413 --> 00:18:42,413
concerning your daughter and Mr. Read.
402
00:18:42,465 --> 00:18:44,832
Who have definitely split up.
403
00:18:44,884 --> 00:18:48,553
I'm quite undone. I'm really upset.
404
00:18:48,588 --> 00:18:53,174
Um, I had grown quite fond of dear Jason.
405
00:18:53,226 --> 00:18:54,926
You've said he's
too old for your daughter
406
00:18:54,978 --> 00:18:57,979
and that he can be controlling
and that he has two personalities.
407
00:18:58,014 --> 00:19:00,598
I have a statement I'm going to read.
408
00:19:01,935 --> 00:19:04,102
I am sad to confirm the end
409
00:19:04,104 --> 00:19:08,106
of my daughter Catherine's
engagement to Jason Read.
410
00:19:08,158 --> 00:19:10,858
This was for personal reasons unconnected
411
00:19:10,910 --> 00:19:14,529
to the ongoing inquiries
into my administration
412
00:19:14,581 --> 00:19:17,615
other than the strain
said inquiries brought
413
00:19:17,617 --> 00:19:19,867
upon their relationship.
414
00:19:19,919 --> 00:19:22,754
This may be a good day for truth,
415
00:19:22,789 --> 00:19:26,124
but a sad day for love.
416
00:19:26,176 --> 00:19:28,626
You recommended an app for the president,
417
00:19:28,628 --> 00:19:30,044
- did you not?
- Yes, ma'am.
418
00:19:30,096 --> 00:19:33,381
Could you demonstrate how
the app works on your phone?
419
00:19:33,433 --> 00:19:35,350
Yes, I'd be happy to.
420
00:19:35,385 --> 00:19:38,136
So you go to your home screen, it's called.
421
00:19:38,188 --> 00:19:39,520
Remember that.
422
00:19:39,556 --> 00:19:41,606
And now you have to send it to someone.
423
00:19:41,641 --> 00:19:43,725
So I could send it to...
424
00:19:43,777 --> 00:19:45,393
you want to give me your number?
425
00:19:45,445 --> 00:19:47,278
- Or I'll just send it to myself.
- Fine.
426
00:19:47,313 --> 00:19:50,982
So now all I do is appropriately touch
427
00:19:51,034 --> 00:19:54,068
the icon for record.
428
00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:56,371
And... hey,
Mike, it's Mike.
429
00:19:56,406 --> 00:19:58,823
Um...
430
00:19:58,825 --> 00:20:01,409
you're probably not going to get this
431
00:20:01,461 --> 00:20:04,379
'cause you're in the
hearings, but I just...
432
00:20:04,414 --> 00:20:06,631
- wanted to tell you...
- That's quite enough.
433
00:20:06,666 --> 00:20:07,882
I've got to go, Mike.
434
00:20:07,917 --> 00:20:11,753
And then you just press send.
435
00:20:11,805 --> 00:20:14,889
And it should instantly
appear on my memo app.
436
00:20:16,593 --> 00:20:20,061
Which it's not doing. Um, I don't know why.
437
00:20:20,096 --> 00:20:23,731
I guess that's why they say don't
work with animals or technology.
438
00:20:23,767 --> 00:20:26,017
I mean, that's why "Jaws"
was such a nightmare shoot.
439
00:20:26,019 --> 00:20:28,736
I mean, mechanical shark, forget it.
440
00:20:30,573 --> 00:20:33,274
Oh, Knee Free. That's the cream.
441
00:20:33,326 --> 00:20:34,859
Knee Free, if you...
442
00:20:34,861 --> 00:20:36,611
Okay, here it is.
443
00:20:36,663 --> 00:20:38,780
And... hey,
Mike, it's Mike.
444
00:20:38,832 --> 00:20:40,164
Um...
445
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,867
you're probably not going to get this
446
00:20:42,869 --> 00:20:44,285
'cause you're in
the hearings, but...
447
00:20:44,337 --> 00:20:45,787
Pretty good clarity.
448
00:20:45,839 --> 00:20:48,005
Could we hear some of the
messages that the president sent?
449
00:20:48,041 --> 00:20:51,092
No, because I deleted
them. They're deleted.
450
00:20:51,127 --> 00:20:53,511
I mean, truthfully, these things were just
451
00:20:53,546 --> 00:20:56,881
her talking about Advil and lemons.
452
00:20:56,933 --> 00:20:59,884
Well, we'll see how many
when we listen to them.
453
00:20:59,936 --> 00:21:01,219
Sadly, sir, I deleted those.
454
00:21:01,271 --> 00:21:02,887
Yeah, but they still exist in the cloud,
455
00:21:02,939 --> 00:21:04,222
as I'm sure you're aware.
456
00:21:07,060 --> 00:21:10,361
Ben, are
Dan and Amy on course?
457
00:21:10,396 --> 00:21:13,231
It can't happen.
458
00:21:13,233 --> 00:21:16,067
Well, that could be about anything.
459
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,453
Probably about them...
460
00:21:18,488 --> 00:21:21,823
you know, mating.
461
00:21:21,875 --> 00:21:23,791
And it can't happen?
462
00:21:23,827 --> 00:21:28,212
It can't happen that we lose this vote.
463
00:21:28,248 --> 00:21:30,331
Or is that too far-fetched for you?
464
00:21:30,383 --> 00:21:32,416
Well, why did she mention it, then?
465
00:21:32,418 --> 00:21:33,918
Well, she was feverish.
466
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,220
So you're saying she wasn't
in a fit state to govern?
467
00:21:36,256 --> 00:21:37,889
No, I'm not saying that.
468
00:21:37,924 --> 00:21:42,226
If I was saying that, then
that's what I would have said.
469
00:21:42,262 --> 00:21:45,146
I mean, why are you
throwing pebbles at a tank?
470
00:21:45,181 --> 00:21:46,814
Stop.
471
00:21:46,850 --> 00:21:50,067
You know, that lady,
she could govern herself
472
00:21:50,103 --> 00:21:51,652
through leprosy.
473
00:21:51,688 --> 00:21:53,404
How would you
characterize your friendship
474
00:21:53,439 --> 00:21:54,939
with Congresswoman Bennett?
475
00:21:54,991 --> 00:21:58,442
Uh, well, I wouldn't
say that we're friends.
476
00:21:58,444 --> 00:22:01,362
I would say that we are friendly.
477
00:22:01,414 --> 00:22:03,915
So she's not on the
committee to steer them away
478
00:22:03,950 --> 00:22:06,000
from issues that might
be uncomfortable for you?
479
00:22:06,035 --> 00:22:07,952
No. Mm-mmm.
480
00:22:07,954 --> 00:22:09,537
I'm president.
481
00:22:09,589 --> 00:22:11,956
I don't have time for friends.
482
00:22:12,008 --> 00:22:14,625
Madam President, it was you
483
00:22:14,627 --> 00:22:17,795
who appointed a special prosecutor
484
00:22:17,797 --> 00:22:19,797
and we are the team under your appointee.
485
00:22:19,849 --> 00:22:21,432
Yeah, well, there you go.
486
00:22:21,467 --> 00:22:23,768
Mr. Ryan.
487
00:22:23,803 --> 00:22:25,803
It has come to this committee's attention
488
00:22:25,855 --> 00:22:28,806
that you suffered some emotional issues
489
00:22:28,808 --> 00:22:31,976
during the run-up to
the Families First Bill.
490
00:22:36,316 --> 00:22:37,865
I was touched.
491
00:22:37,901 --> 00:22:39,784
Who touched you?
492
00:22:39,819 --> 00:22:43,454
I would rather not say at this time.
493
00:22:43,489 --> 00:22:44,906
Or any.
494
00:22:44,958 --> 00:22:46,374
Can you give us a reason why?
495
00:22:46,409 --> 00:22:47,909
Excuse me for one moment.
496
00:22:47,961 --> 00:22:50,411
I just have a very...
A very dry mouth.
497
00:22:52,999 --> 00:22:55,333
Setting their identity aside...
498
00:22:57,837 --> 00:22:59,837
Setting their identity aside,
499
00:22:59,839 --> 00:23:02,173
where did this person touch you?
500
00:23:02,175 --> 00:23:04,008
Um...
501
00:23:07,096 --> 00:23:10,064
he touched me in a private place.
502
00:23:10,099 --> 00:23:12,149
Can you be more specific?
Was it the buttocks?
503
00:23:12,185 --> 00:23:15,353
No. No.
504
00:23:18,024 --> 00:23:21,359
It was... it was
around the other side.
505
00:23:21,411 --> 00:23:22,660
The crotch, presumably.
506
00:23:22,695 --> 00:23:24,612
Was there ever any contact
507
00:23:24,664 --> 00:23:27,081
between testicles and hands?
508
00:23:27,116 --> 00:23:28,366
Okay, listen,
509
00:23:28,418 --> 00:23:31,285
I thought that this was
supposed to be about lobbying.
510
00:23:31,337 --> 00:23:33,788
And it seems clear that the congresswoman
511
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,875
is pulling focus away from
the main concern of this panel.
512
00:23:37,927 --> 00:23:42,263
Similarly with Ms. Brookheimer's dress.
513
00:23:42,298 --> 00:23:45,049
She can't have believed
that this would work.
514
00:23:45,051 --> 00:23:46,767
She never looks this humble.
515
00:23:46,803 --> 00:23:49,720
I'm not... I'm not sure what
you're referring to, Mr. Ryan.
516
00:23:49,722 --> 00:23:52,023
This is my everyday attire.
517
00:23:52,058 --> 00:23:54,976
And I apologize if it offends you, but...
518
00:23:55,028 --> 00:23:57,061
But you saw what she
just did with the...
519
00:23:57,146 --> 00:23:58,529
I mean, you saw that.
520
00:23:58,564 --> 00:24:01,482
She is playing
you like a cheap...
521
00:24:01,534 --> 00:24:03,451
- Careful.
- Like an Xbox.
522
00:24:03,486 --> 00:24:07,071
Mr. Ryan, trust me, no one is
playing us. We are unplayable.
523
00:24:07,073 --> 00:24:09,740
I'd like to hear more on
the charges of molestation.
524
00:24:09,792 --> 00:24:11,375
Go ahead.
525
00:24:11,411 --> 00:24:15,813
Was there ever any contact
between testicles and hands?
526
00:24:15,848 --> 00:24:18,582
No. Never.
527
00:24:18,584 --> 00:24:22,637
My... spheres
528
00:24:22,672 --> 00:24:24,221
were always clothed.
529
00:24:24,257 --> 00:24:25,640
I was in the
workplace, so I...
530
00:24:25,675 --> 00:24:27,758
Did he always grope both testicles?
531
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,727
I'm sorry, but can I be asked that question
532
00:24:29,762 --> 00:24:30,978
by a male committee member?
533
00:24:31,014 --> 00:24:33,180
No, I asked the question.
534
00:24:33,232 --> 00:24:35,016
I'm sorry. I forgot the question.
535
00:24:35,068 --> 00:24:37,735
Did your abuser touch
both of your testicles?
536
00:24:38,905 --> 00:24:41,322
- Thank you, Mr. Egan.
- Sure.
537
00:24:41,357 --> 00:24:44,108
Who else was aware of this during
your time at the White House?
538
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,444
I, uh... I
also saw it.
539
00:24:46,446 --> 00:24:48,779
I can't stop...
540
00:24:48,831 --> 00:24:50,748
I can't stop thinking about it.
541
00:24:50,783 --> 00:24:52,616
It's... you know,
it's like a bell.
542
00:24:52,669 --> 00:24:54,035
It can't be unrung.
543
00:24:54,087 --> 00:24:55,419
Where did you see it happen?
544
00:24:55,455 --> 00:24:57,371
It was around the spheres.
545
00:24:57,423 --> 00:24:59,090
I meant what area of the workplace.
546
00:24:59,125 --> 00:25:00,925
Oh, yes. No, I'm sorry. Yes.
547
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,461
It was in a hallway.
548
00:25:03,463 --> 00:25:05,179
Same time as Dan.
549
00:25:05,264 --> 00:25:08,049
In fact, he was coming to
fire Jonah as a scapegoat
550
00:25:08,101 --> 00:25:10,718
for the child mortality data breach. Oh!
551
00:25:10,770 --> 00:25:13,304
- Okay, there's no further questions.
- Whoa, whoa, wait, wait.
552
00:25:13,356 --> 00:25:16,390
Wait, wait. Can you
repeat that, Mr. Splett?
553
00:25:16,476 --> 00:25:18,309
Uh, actually, I'd like to plead the fifth.
554
00:25:18,311 --> 00:25:19,560
I'd like to plead the fifth, please.
555
00:25:19,612 --> 00:25:21,145
Mr. Splett,
can you repeat...
556
00:25:21,197 --> 00:25:24,065
Can you repeat what you
just said, Mr. Splett?
557
00:25:24,117 --> 00:25:26,367
- We were investigating a serious allegation...
- Congresswoman.
558
00:25:26,402 --> 00:25:27,902
Of abuse in
the... - Please!
559
00:25:27,954 --> 00:25:29,954
Can you repeat what you
just said, Mr. Splett?
560
00:25:29,989 --> 00:25:31,789
Yes, I can. I'd like to plead the fifth.
561
00:25:31,824 --> 00:25:33,207
- Before that.
- Okay.
562
00:25:33,242 --> 00:25:36,660
Uh, I think I mistakenly said
563
00:25:36,713 --> 00:25:39,747
that Dan was scapegoating Jonah
564
00:25:39,799 --> 00:25:41,665
for the child mortality data breach.
565
00:25:41,667 --> 00:25:45,302
Can you tell us who was responsible
for the data breach, Mr. Cafferty?
566
00:25:45,338 --> 00:25:47,004
No.
567
00:25:47,056 --> 00:25:49,390
But you do know who was responsible?
568
00:25:49,425 --> 00:25:51,342
No.
569
00:25:51,394 --> 00:25:55,062
Can you tell us anything at
all about said data breach?
570
00:25:55,098 --> 00:25:56,680
No.
571
00:25:56,733 --> 00:25:58,516
Are you gonna continue
to answer every question
572
00:25:58,568 --> 00:26:00,151
with a one-word answer, Mr. Cafferty?
573
00:26:00,186 --> 00:26:02,820
No.
574
00:26:02,855 --> 00:26:04,822
I am not.
575
00:26:04,857 --> 00:26:06,490
Okay, that means nothing.
576
00:26:06,526 --> 00:26:10,861
We need a name or this
administration is in big trouble.
577
00:26:10,863 --> 00:26:12,913
Gary Walsh, any thoughts?
578
00:26:14,283 --> 00:26:16,033
I don't know who that is.
579
00:26:16,085 --> 00:26:17,701
Who...
Gary?
580
00:26:17,754 --> 00:26:19,253
Walsh.
581
00:26:19,288 --> 00:26:20,921
Oh, the...
Yeah.
582
00:26:20,957 --> 00:26:23,040
Senator, do you think it's possible
583
00:26:23,042 --> 00:26:25,760
Gary Walsh was responsible
for making payments
584
00:26:25,795 --> 00:26:28,012
to Mr. Egan and Ms. Brookheimer
585
00:26:28,047 --> 00:26:30,431
to lobby against the Families First Bill?
586
00:26:32,218 --> 00:26:34,685
Forgive me for laughing at the notion.
587
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,054
Gary Walsh, you need to understand,
588
00:26:37,106 --> 00:26:39,223
is a
12-year-old boy
589
00:26:39,275 --> 00:26:42,026
trapped in the body
of a 12-year-old girl.
590
00:26:42,061 --> 00:26:44,895
Did you contact Amy
Brookheimer and Daniel Clifford Egan
591
00:26:44,897 --> 00:26:48,566
after they had left the White House
with regard to the Families First Bill?
592
00:26:48,618 --> 00:26:49,733
I did.
593
00:26:49,735 --> 00:26:51,318
Did you agree to pay them to lobby
594
00:26:51,370 --> 00:26:52,953
against the bill on
behalf of the president?
595
00:26:52,989 --> 00:26:55,573
Nope. Nope, nope, nope,
nope. No, I did not.
596
00:26:55,575 --> 00:26:57,708
So did somebody else
make this arrangement?
597
00:26:57,743 --> 00:26:59,043
Bill Ericsson.
598
00:26:59,078 --> 00:27:00,628
- Will you let me finish my question?
- Mm-hmm.
599
00:27:00,663 --> 00:27:03,631
Someone else arranged
to make such a payment?
600
00:27:03,666 --> 00:27:05,416
Yes.
601
00:27:06,752 --> 00:27:09,053
- Who was it?
- Bill.
602
00:27:10,590 --> 00:27:12,223
Bill...?
603
00:27:16,145 --> 00:27:19,013
Ericsson.
604
00:27:19,065 --> 00:27:23,067
It was the director of
communications Bill Ericsson.
605
00:27:23,102 --> 00:27:25,903
You haven't been asked
to say Ericsson, have you?
606
00:27:25,938 --> 00:27:28,322
No.
607
00:27:28,407 --> 00:27:29,907
I believe that Bill Ericsson
608
00:27:29,942 --> 00:27:32,610
would have been overseeing that aspect.
609
00:27:32,612 --> 00:27:34,328
- Bill Ericsson.
- Bill Ericsson.
610
00:27:34,363 --> 00:27:36,413
- Mr. Bill Ericsson.
- Bill Ericsson.
611
00:27:36,449 --> 00:27:38,749
- Yes, Bill Ericsson.
- You listen to me.
612
00:27:38,784 --> 00:27:41,502
I got into politics because
I have a very clear sense,
613
00:27:41,537 --> 00:27:44,872
a burning sense of what is right
and what is good, all right?
614
00:27:44,924 --> 00:27:47,541
I'm not an attorney, I
don't point the finger,
615
00:27:47,593 --> 00:27:49,877
I don't lay blame, that's not who I am.
616
00:27:52,381 --> 00:27:54,265
But in answer to your question, yes,
617
00:27:54,300 --> 00:27:57,218
Bill Ericsson used misappropriated funds
618
00:27:57,270 --> 00:27:59,637
to lobby against the president's bill.
619
00:27:59,689 --> 00:28:01,138
This is a nightmare.
620
00:28:01,140 --> 00:28:02,973
I'm probably gonna be
facing criminal charges.
621
00:28:02,975 --> 00:28:05,142
- You consider yourself innocent?
- I am innocent.
622
00:28:05,194 --> 00:28:06,810
Do you want me to take off my shirt
623
00:28:06,812 --> 00:28:08,896
so that you can see all the knife
handles sticking out of my back?
624
00:28:08,948 --> 00:28:11,065
Where is Congresswoman Bennett?
625
00:28:11,117 --> 00:28:12,533
She is absent.
626
00:28:12,568 --> 00:28:13,817
Yes, I got that.
627
00:28:13,819 --> 00:28:15,786
I took noticing in high school.
628
00:28:15,821 --> 00:28:19,790
I think the real issue now is Bill Ericsson
629
00:28:19,825 --> 00:28:22,326
and what he may have done
630
00:28:22,328 --> 00:28:24,128
or what he may not have done
631
00:28:24,163 --> 00:28:27,498
and how his rogue actions did or did not
632
00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:29,416
affect so many lives.
633
00:28:29,468 --> 00:28:33,337
But that is, of course, for
you to determine yourselves.
634
00:28:33,389 --> 00:28:35,256
You're only doing what they want you to do.
635
00:28:35,308 --> 00:28:37,007
You are aware of that, right?
636
00:28:37,059 --> 00:28:38,559
It's like I'm on the sacrificial altar
637
00:28:38,594 --> 00:28:40,594
and suddenly everyone is wearing hoods.
638
00:28:40,646 --> 00:28:43,430
The other day you had fun with my size
639
00:28:43,482 --> 00:28:46,817
and the nicknames that
you gave me about my size.
640
00:28:46,852 --> 00:28:48,986
Tall McCartney.
641
00:28:49,021 --> 00:28:50,854
Skyscraper.
642
00:28:50,907 --> 00:28:53,357
But Jonah Ryan is strong.
643
00:28:54,577 --> 00:28:57,995
And if Jonah Ryan can help one man
644
00:28:58,030 --> 00:29:01,332
who is dealing with
workplace sexual harassment,
645
00:29:01,367 --> 00:29:04,702
then this entire ordeal
will have been worth it.
646
00:29:04,704 --> 00:29:07,538
Watch this space. Thank you.
647
00:29:07,540 --> 00:29:09,173
Thank you.
648
00:29:09,208 --> 00:29:11,292
You know, there are probably
fairer trials happening
649
00:29:11,344 --> 00:29:12,710
right now in the back of parking lots
650
00:29:12,762 --> 00:29:14,962
where the defendant is
wearing a mailbag on his head.
651
00:29:15,014 --> 00:29:17,381
Please raise your right hand.
652
00:29:17,383 --> 00:29:18,849
Your right hand.
653
00:29:18,884 --> 00:29:20,601
Sorry, I was practicing in the mirror.
654
00:29:20,636 --> 00:29:23,887
Do you solemnly swear that the
testimony you're about to give
655
00:29:23,889 --> 00:29:25,606
is the truth, the whole truth,
656
00:29:25,641 --> 00:29:27,775
and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
657
00:29:27,810 --> 00:29:31,195
Absolutely. Excited to do it.
9999
00:00:0,500 --> 00:00:2,00
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