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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,049 --> 00:00:06,799 Did you know what was going on in your name 2 00:00:06,801 --> 00:00:08,968 on the day of the Families First vote? 3 00:00:08,970 --> 00:00:10,803 Were you using lobbyists? 4 00:00:10,805 --> 00:00:13,806 I would never, ever let that happen. 5 00:00:13,808 --> 00:00:16,442 And if it had happened, which it absolutely did not, 6 00:00:16,477 --> 00:00:18,694 I would make sure that something was done about it. 7 00:00:18,729 --> 00:00:20,229 Absolutely damn sure. 8 00:00:20,281 --> 00:00:21,981 So this wasn't a matter for Congress? 9 00:00:22,033 --> 00:00:25,150 Well, I am certain that Congress, and my opponents for that matter, 10 00:00:25,152 --> 00:00:26,819 have better things to do with their time, 11 00:00:26,821 --> 00:00:29,371 like getting down to the business of government. 12 00:00:29,407 --> 00:00:32,658 And let me repeat myself again and say to the American people 13 00:00:32,710 --> 00:00:36,295 that there is not one ounce of truth to these allegations. 14 00:00:36,330 --> 00:00:40,299 - Madam President... - Not one ounce of truth to these allegations. 15 00:00:40,334 --> 00:00:42,384 Thank you very much. That's all the time I have for today. 16 00:00:42,420 --> 00:00:44,670 Thank you. 17 00:00:44,672 --> 00:00:46,005 Don't touch me. 18 00:00:46,057 --> 00:00:48,173 Do you solemnly swear 19 00:00:48,226 --> 00:00:50,009 that the testimony you're about to give is the truth, 20 00:00:50,011 --> 00:00:53,095 the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 21 00:00:53,147 --> 00:00:54,346 - I do. - Yes, I do. 22 00:00:54,348 --> 00:00:56,599 Absolutely. Yes, sir, I do. 23 00:01:10,197 --> 00:01:11,864 Mr. Cafferty, pardon me being blunt, 24 00:01:11,916 --> 00:01:14,283 but why did Families First fail? 25 00:01:14,335 --> 00:01:16,702 It happens. Rain gonna fall, 26 00:01:16,704 --> 00:01:18,704 bar's gonna close, bill's gonna fail. 27 00:01:18,756 --> 00:01:22,258 There's a job for you at Hallmark, Mr. Cafferty. 28 00:01:22,293 --> 00:01:25,044 You don't seem upset that the bill failed. 29 00:01:25,046 --> 00:01:29,465 If I had kids, which actually I do, 30 00:01:29,517 --> 00:01:31,383 this bill would be my baby. 31 00:01:31,385 --> 00:01:34,853 I and the entire White House, 32 00:01:34,889 --> 00:01:37,940 we sweated a full transfusion of blood 33 00:01:37,975 --> 00:01:39,725 to pass this bill. 34 00:01:39,777 --> 00:01:43,062 So Jonah Ryan wasn't sent here to defend the bill, 35 00:01:43,064 --> 00:01:45,314 to deliberately undermine it? 36 00:01:45,366 --> 00:01:48,734 No. No. Read my luscious lips, no. 37 00:01:48,786 --> 00:01:52,237 We were consultants, not lobbyists. 38 00:01:52,239 --> 00:01:53,372 And what's the difference? 39 00:01:53,407 --> 00:01:54,790 You ask to be consulted. 40 00:01:54,825 --> 00:01:56,959 A consultant consults the client, 41 00:01:56,994 --> 00:01:59,295 whereas a lobbyist lobbies on behalf of the client. 42 00:01:59,330 --> 00:02:02,631 You're not telling me the difference, you're just turning nouns into verbs. 43 00:02:02,667 --> 00:02:07,586 So you were consulting people to vote against the Families First Bill? 44 00:02:07,638 --> 00:02:08,887 Yes. Yes, we were. 45 00:02:08,923 --> 00:02:10,472 That's exactly what they were doing. 46 00:02:10,508 --> 00:02:13,175 Excuse me, Mr. Ryan. We didn't ask for your commentary 47 00:02:13,227 --> 00:02:15,427 on the veracity of their testimonies. 48 00:02:15,479 --> 00:02:16,812 Oh, I'm very sorry, sir. 49 00:02:16,847 --> 00:02:19,098 I'm sorry that I misconducted myself 50 00:02:19,100 --> 00:02:23,435 and I will not do that in to the future. 51 00:02:23,487 --> 00:02:26,739 What is your assessment of Ms. Brookheimer and Mr. Egan? 52 00:02:26,774 --> 00:02:29,158 Oh, Ms. Brookheimer is a strong, 53 00:02:29,193 --> 00:02:31,360 independent, flexible woman. 54 00:02:31,412 --> 00:02:33,495 And Lord knows there aren't enough of those in DC. 55 00:02:33,531 --> 00:02:34,947 And Mr. Egan? 56 00:02:34,949 --> 00:02:39,118 Uh, Dan Egan is a solid five and a half, weak six. 57 00:02:40,871 --> 00:02:44,039 Can you tell us who was responsible for the data breach? 58 00:02:44,091 --> 00:02:45,708 No. Well, I mean, yes. 59 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,459 Yes, it's a matter of public record 60 00:02:47,461 --> 00:02:49,378 that Dan Egan was fired 61 00:02:49,430 --> 00:02:52,798 because of his relation to the data breach. 62 00:02:53,968 --> 00:02:55,351 I mean, you could have Googled that. 63 00:02:55,386 --> 00:02:57,219 Wait, that's not my question. 64 00:02:57,271 --> 00:02:58,637 Was he responsible? 65 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,473 Washington needed a sacrifice, 66 00:03:01,475 --> 00:03:05,277 so we all ran and took out our pitchforks 67 00:03:05,312 --> 00:03:07,279 and we set fire to the wicker Dan. 68 00:03:07,314 --> 00:03:10,616 Okay, so why did he deserve to go if he was innocent? 69 00:03:10,651 --> 00:03:12,484 You make it sound like there's a correlation 70 00:03:12,486 --> 00:03:15,287 between what should happen and what actually happens. 71 00:03:15,322 --> 00:03:18,574 I mean, life is chaotic and it's often unfair. 72 00:03:18,626 --> 00:03:20,325 I know it is for me. 73 00:03:20,378 --> 00:03:23,379 Dan Egan deserved to go, 74 00:03:23,464 --> 00:03:25,664 so he went. 75 00:03:25,716 --> 00:03:27,966 Sure, I love money. 76 00:03:28,002 --> 00:03:29,668 But there's something else that I love 77 00:03:29,670 --> 00:03:32,504 and it's a little lady called the United States of America. 78 00:03:32,556 --> 00:03:37,643 And Ms. Brookheimer and I are here today as patriots 79 00:03:37,678 --> 00:03:39,845 speaking up for the common citizen, 80 00:03:39,847 --> 00:03:43,682 be that individual an actual person or a corporation. 81 00:03:43,684 --> 00:03:46,735 That shoehorned stab at nobility 82 00:03:46,771 --> 00:03:48,771 - will not fly here. - Okay. 83 00:03:48,823 --> 00:03:51,690 Ms. Brookheimer, are you guided purely by money? 84 00:03:51,742 --> 00:03:56,445 I think it's interesting that you chose me to aim that question at, 85 00:03:56,497 --> 00:03:59,865 insinuating that I am a money-grabbing, 86 00:03:59,867 --> 00:04:02,534 careerist, low-moraled... 87 00:04:02,536 --> 00:04:04,169 I don't know why I'm helping you here. 88 00:04:04,205 --> 00:04:06,038 There is no need to be shrill, Ms. Brookheimer. 89 00:04:06,090 --> 00:04:07,372 - Shrill? - Mmm. 90 00:04:07,425 --> 00:04:10,592 Do you recall a document shared on the J-drive 91 00:04:10,628 --> 00:04:14,046 titled the Jonad Files? 92 00:04:14,048 --> 00:04:16,632 - Uh, no. No, ma'am. - No. That doesn't ring a bell. 93 00:04:16,684 --> 00:04:20,469 So it's not a word combining Jonah and gonad? 94 00:04:20,521 --> 00:04:22,137 - Not to my knowledge. - I can confirm 95 00:04:22,189 --> 00:04:24,890 that that is exactly what it is and Mr. Egan knows that. 96 00:04:24,892 --> 00:04:27,559 In fact, Mr. Egan, I was told that you encouraged staffers 97 00:04:27,561 --> 00:04:29,695 to add to this glossary of abuse. 98 00:04:29,730 --> 00:04:32,614 I do not at this moment in time recall the action 99 00:04:32,650 --> 00:04:34,900 nor the document in question. 100 00:04:34,902 --> 00:04:37,536 Okay, maybe this will jog your memory. We have some extracts. 101 00:04:37,571 --> 00:04:40,572 J-Rock, Jizzy Gillespie, Jack and the Giant Jackoff, 102 00:04:40,574 --> 00:04:43,492 Gaylien, Tinker Balls, Wadzilla, One Erection... 103 00:04:43,544 --> 00:04:45,627 Do we have to go through all of these? 104 00:04:45,663 --> 00:04:46,912 I'm not sure that I see the relevance. 105 00:04:46,964 --> 00:04:49,882 The witnesses claim they held their former colleague 106 00:04:49,917 --> 00:04:52,751 in high regard and I am attempting to prove otherwise. 107 00:04:52,803 --> 00:04:54,253 Okay, yeah, sure. No, you can proceed. 108 00:04:54,255 --> 00:04:56,638 The Pointless Giant, The 60-Foot Virgin, 109 00:04:56,674 --> 00:04:59,558 Gimpanzee, Jonah Ono, Hagrid's Nutsack, 110 00:04:59,593 --> 00:05:01,510 Scrotum Pole, Transgenderformers, 111 00:05:01,562 --> 00:05:03,095 12 Years a Slave to Jerking Off, 112 00:05:03,097 --> 00:05:04,563 Benedict Come In His Own Hand, 113 00:05:04,598 --> 00:05:06,932 Guyscraper, The Cloud Botherer, 114 00:05:06,984 --> 00:05:09,518 Supercalifragilisticexpiali Dick Cheese, 115 00:05:09,570 --> 00:05:12,988 Teenage Mutant Ninja Asshole, Spewbacca. 116 00:05:13,023 --> 00:05:17,276 My college friends called me Tall McCartney. 117 00:05:18,612 --> 00:05:20,279 I preferred that. That's a good nickname. 118 00:05:20,281 --> 00:05:22,614 Fractious cracks have opened up in your relationships 119 00:05:22,616 --> 00:05:26,785 and in your testimony and we'll explore them in a later session. 120 00:05:30,591 --> 00:05:33,125 Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you're about to give is the truth, 121 00:05:33,210 --> 00:05:36,094 the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 122 00:05:36,130 --> 00:05:37,546 I do. 123 00:05:37,598 --> 00:05:41,466 You were fired from the White House in April. Is that correct? 124 00:05:41,468 --> 00:05:43,468 Yes. The drama queen in me likes to say 125 00:05:43,470 --> 00:05:45,304 that they sacrificed me at Easter. 126 00:05:46,690 --> 00:05:50,609 Uh, you've been described as the scapegoat. 127 00:05:50,644 --> 00:05:53,562 Were you in fact responsible for the HIV data breach? 128 00:05:53,614 --> 00:05:57,866 No, I value confidentiality and paradoxically I don't care who knows it. 129 00:05:57,902 --> 00:05:58,984 Why were you fired? 130 00:05:59,036 --> 00:06:01,820 To conceal something bigger. 131 00:06:01,872 --> 00:06:03,822 They thought I was a mouse. 132 00:06:03,824 --> 00:06:06,825 Well, this mouse will roar. 133 00:06:06,827 --> 00:06:10,579 Ms. Patterson, you better tell us what that something bigger is. 134 00:06:10,631 --> 00:06:12,998 Someone from the campaign used child mortality data 135 00:06:13,050 --> 00:06:17,336 from the same federal breach that named Jennifer Graham as an HIV victim. 136 00:06:17,388 --> 00:06:19,504 Used to what end? 137 00:06:19,506 --> 00:06:21,506 To deliberately target bereaved parents 138 00:06:21,559 --> 00:06:24,009 for a campaign mailer called I Care. 139 00:06:26,096 --> 00:06:27,596 Okay, so this is how it's gonna work. 140 00:06:27,648 --> 00:06:29,514 I'm gonna give you everything you need in a nice little box 141 00:06:29,567 --> 00:06:32,401 with a pretty red ribbon on it and then I'm gonna walk away a free man, okay? 142 00:06:32,436 --> 00:06:34,686 - Rat and roll. Deal? - Go on. 143 00:06:34,738 --> 00:06:37,522 The thing about Lee Patterson... 144 00:06:37,524 --> 00:06:40,359 She doesn't even know why she was scapegoated. 145 00:06:40,361 --> 00:06:43,528 Okay? I do. It's because the child mortality data was used... 146 00:06:43,581 --> 00:06:46,415 Yeah, was used to target bereaved parents. We know that already. 147 00:06:46,500 --> 00:06:48,450 Ms. Patterson's talking to the committee right now. 148 00:06:48,502 --> 00:06:51,286 - Yes. - Okay, going deeper here. 149 00:06:51,338 --> 00:06:53,372 That data was actually taken from the same... 150 00:06:53,424 --> 00:06:55,173 Yeah, it was from the same breach 151 00:06:55,209 --> 00:06:56,842 which identified the HIV girl. 152 00:06:56,877 --> 00:06:58,710 We know all that. - Mm-hmm. 153 00:06:58,712 --> 00:07:01,964 Guys, we still have a deal, right? 154 00:07:03,384 --> 00:07:05,884 Ms. Patterson, you are aware that your accusations 155 00:07:05,886 --> 00:07:09,938 about the data breach will have serious repercussions for you and the others? 156 00:07:09,974 --> 00:07:11,306 I understand the dangers 157 00:07:11,358 --> 00:07:13,725 and how you're well-placed to remind me of them. 158 00:07:13,777 --> 00:07:16,311 You're insinuating that my close personal friendship 159 00:07:16,363 --> 00:07:18,363 with the president might cloud my judgment? 160 00:07:18,399 --> 00:07:19,815 No, not at all. 161 00:07:19,867 --> 00:07:23,568 Your judgment, ma'am, is unimpeachable. 162 00:07:23,621 --> 00:07:26,405 Did the president know about the data breach? 163 00:07:26,407 --> 00:07:27,906 No, just the people around her. 164 00:07:27,958 --> 00:07:31,827 Bill Ericsson and Gary Walsh were closest to her. 165 00:07:31,879 --> 00:07:33,962 Which is how I know that Bill Ericsson... 166 00:07:33,998 --> 00:07:35,497 Knew about the data breach. 167 00:07:35,549 --> 00:07:38,583 Are you on some kind of satellite delay, Mr. Egan? 168 00:07:38,585 --> 00:07:40,802 With respect to Lee Patterson, 169 00:07:40,838 --> 00:07:44,339 she had no real idea, no concept of what was actually happening. 170 00:07:44,391 --> 00:07:46,808 I mean, she was so junior, she may have well been working in the kitchens, 171 00:07:46,844 --> 00:07:48,510 with all due respect to the kitchens. 172 00:07:48,562 --> 00:07:52,514 But for the record, Ms. Patterson was a very competent staffer 173 00:07:52,566 --> 00:07:55,934 and what Jimmy Cagney would have called 174 00:07:55,986 --> 00:07:59,071 a good kid in my opinion. 175 00:07:59,106 --> 00:08:00,572 I'll wait for a question. 176 00:08:00,607 --> 00:08:02,491 We have a deposition from a witness 177 00:08:02,526 --> 00:08:04,660 confirming that you, Mr. Ericsson, 178 00:08:04,695 --> 00:08:07,696 ordered Dan Egan to fire Ms. Patterson. 179 00:08:07,748 --> 00:08:09,748 This is what I was afraid of. I'm being snowballed. 180 00:08:09,783 --> 00:08:12,617 - I'm a victim of snowballing. - What do you mean, Mr. Ericsson? 181 00:08:12,619 --> 00:08:14,202 Well, a name gets mentioned, then gets mentioned again, 182 00:08:14,254 --> 00:08:15,454 and pretty soon everyone is mentioning it 183 00:08:15,506 --> 00:08:16,788 and then the whole thing snowballs 184 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,623 and then there's an avalanche of snowballs 185 00:08:18,676 --> 00:08:20,792 and I'm being buried by other people's snow 186 00:08:20,844 --> 00:08:23,712 and it's not pure driven, it's not white snow, if you catch my drift. 187 00:08:23,764 --> 00:08:25,380 I certainly caught their drift. Do I make sense? 188 00:08:25,432 --> 00:08:27,299 - Am I making sense? - Calm... calm down. 189 00:08:27,301 --> 00:08:28,800 Isn't snowballing 190 00:08:28,852 --> 00:08:32,304 what you did to Lee Patterson when you had her fired? 191 00:08:32,306 --> 00:08:34,272 No, that was scapegoating. 192 00:08:34,308 --> 00:08:35,974 Again, apologies. 193 00:08:35,976 --> 00:08:37,893 You haven't asked me a question. 194 00:08:37,945 --> 00:08:40,812 What is the difference between scapegoating and snowballing? 195 00:08:40,864 --> 00:08:43,448 It's not my fault. That's the difference. 196 00:08:43,484 --> 00:08:45,367 Is that... is that making sense? 197 00:08:45,402 --> 00:08:47,069 It's not my fault is my basic point. 198 00:08:47,121 --> 00:08:49,404 I mean, why I am being raked over the coals 199 00:08:49,456 --> 00:08:52,624 for the misuse of data in the campaign when I'm sitting next to the campaign manager? 200 00:08:52,659 --> 00:08:56,495 Oh, that's... bravo, Bill. Subtly done. 201 00:08:56,547 --> 00:09:00,132 Mr. Davison, you are President Meyer's campaign manager, yes? 202 00:09:00,167 --> 00:09:02,501 Yes, ma'am. Though not at the time of the breach. 203 00:09:02,553 --> 00:09:05,670 But you were aware of it at the time 204 00:09:05,723 --> 00:09:07,389 and yet you chose to say nothing? 205 00:09:07,424 --> 00:09:10,392 Well, though it may appear that there was nothing going on, 206 00:09:10,427 --> 00:09:12,644 I can assure you that there was... 207 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,230 There was lots going on underneath. 208 00:09:15,265 --> 00:09:19,651 Like a swan or Professor Hawking. 209 00:09:19,686 --> 00:09:21,903 Who else, then, was involved? 210 00:09:21,939 --> 00:09:24,272 Gary. Gary Walsh. 211 00:09:24,324 --> 00:09:25,690 The president's bagman? 212 00:09:25,743 --> 00:09:27,409 Yeah, he's the guy. 213 00:09:27,444 --> 00:09:31,913 But... okay, you ever seen "Usual Suspects"? 214 00:09:31,949 --> 00:09:34,199 I haven't seen it. 215 00:09:34,251 --> 00:09:37,369 Okay, well, he's Keyser... I mean... 216 00:09:37,421 --> 00:09:40,338 You haven't seen it, so forget it. 217 00:09:40,374 --> 00:09:45,210 Gary's the guy who got Amy Brookheimer and I involved. 218 00:09:45,212 --> 00:09:50,549 He's the bagman, yeah, but he's also the bad man. 219 00:09:59,393 --> 00:10:01,359 Mr. Walsh, several people 220 00:10:01,395 --> 00:10:05,063 have now described you as being at the center of events, 221 00:10:05,065 --> 00:10:06,898 so I was wondering if you could please outline to us 222 00:10:06,950 --> 00:10:09,401 your duties and your responsibilities. 223 00:10:11,905 --> 00:10:14,739 Is there a problem, Mr. Walsh? 224 00:10:14,741 --> 00:10:16,408 I'm sorry. It's just when I was... 225 00:10:16,410 --> 00:10:18,493 When I was originally summoned, it was a smaller hearing 226 00:10:18,545 --> 00:10:21,546 and executive privileges were waived 227 00:10:21,582 --> 00:10:24,583 and now it's like a U2 concert. 228 00:10:24,585 --> 00:10:26,751 Well, we are investigating malpractice 229 00:10:26,804 --> 00:10:28,804 possibly leading to criminal investigation. 230 00:10:28,889 --> 00:10:32,257 Might you unwaive your executive privilege? 231 00:10:32,259 --> 00:10:34,259 Hmm. 232 00:10:38,649 --> 00:10:41,933 Uh-huh. He says not to, so... 233 00:10:41,935 --> 00:10:45,770 Would you say you were friendly with Dan Egan? 234 00:10:45,772 --> 00:10:48,240 Yes, I'm friendly with Dan Egan. 235 00:10:48,275 --> 00:10:49,691 I... we're friends, yes. 236 00:10:49,743 --> 00:10:52,160 You were seen with him and Amy Brookheimer 237 00:10:52,196 --> 00:10:54,112 on the day of the Families First vote. 238 00:10:54,114 --> 00:10:57,115 Mm-hmm. Uh-huh. 239 00:10:57,117 --> 00:10:58,783 Yeah. 240 00:10:58,785 --> 00:11:00,452 Dan is not my friend. 241 00:11:00,454 --> 00:11:02,921 He's a colleague. 242 00:11:02,956 --> 00:11:04,923 I don't know why I said we were friends. 243 00:11:04,958 --> 00:11:07,175 That's a fault of mine... Just kind of believing 244 00:11:07,211 --> 00:11:10,212 that people were friends and they're not friends. 245 00:11:10,264 --> 00:11:13,632 It's kind of been going on since middle school 246 00:11:13,634 --> 00:11:16,601 and you just caught me at a bad time. 247 00:11:16,637 --> 00:11:20,021 You're probably correct to distance yourself from Mr. Egan. 248 00:11:20,057 --> 00:11:24,526 How would you describe your working relationship with the president? 249 00:11:24,561 --> 00:11:27,279 Uh, it's very intimate. 250 00:11:27,314 --> 00:11:32,117 I've always imagined myself as like a pipeline 251 00:11:32,152 --> 00:11:35,787 who carries a lot of necessary information 252 00:11:35,822 --> 00:11:38,240 and I just feed it directly into her head. 253 00:11:38,292 --> 00:11:41,543 Madam President, can I confirm you've waived executive privilege? 254 00:11:41,578 --> 00:11:43,128 Yes. 255 00:11:43,163 --> 00:11:45,163 Though it is no privilege to have to endure 256 00:11:45,165 --> 00:11:47,382 this investigation, I can tell you that. 257 00:11:47,417 --> 00:11:49,801 But I'm happy to assist in any way that I can. 258 00:11:49,836 --> 00:11:52,170 Can you tell me anything about the breach 259 00:11:52,172 --> 00:11:56,007 - of federal data used in your campaign material? - No. 260 00:11:56,059 --> 00:11:58,426 You said that you'd help this inquiry in any way. 261 00:11:58,478 --> 00:12:00,645 Yes, and I have just then. 262 00:12:00,681 --> 00:12:04,349 Did the president know about the lobbying 263 00:12:04,401 --> 00:12:06,902 against the Families First Bill? 264 00:12:08,605 --> 00:12:11,856 I'm a nobody. 265 00:12:11,858 --> 00:12:14,025 That's the truth. I'm a nobody. 266 00:12:14,077 --> 00:12:17,862 I'm just the guy that, like, whispers names 267 00:12:17,915 --> 00:12:20,115 to the president and I tell her facts about people. 268 00:12:20,167 --> 00:12:22,033 So you're just a prompter? 269 00:12:25,038 --> 00:12:27,038 Uh-huh. 270 00:12:28,842 --> 00:12:31,876 I'm a man who prompts, that is correct. 271 00:12:31,929 --> 00:12:35,130 So all the talk of being the president's pipeline was just bigheadedness? 272 00:12:35,182 --> 00:12:36,932 Yeah. Yeah. 273 00:12:36,967 --> 00:12:39,801 I'm an arrogant man. 274 00:12:39,853 --> 00:12:42,387 I'm not a powerful, guilty, arrogant man. 275 00:12:42,439 --> 00:12:44,723 I'm an arrogant man. 276 00:12:44,725 --> 00:12:48,476 So you wouldn't have contact, in other words, with lobbyists? 277 00:12:48,528 --> 00:12:50,395 No. No. 278 00:12:50,447 --> 00:12:54,449 Actually, Catherine's fiancé Jason is a lobbyist, 279 00:12:54,484 --> 00:12:56,818 so at times, yeah. 280 00:12:56,870 --> 00:13:00,705 Really? Until now he's been referred to as a consultant. 281 00:13:00,741 --> 00:13:03,124 Mmm. 282 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,578 Are you concerned with your daughter being engaged to a lobbyist? 283 00:13:06,580 --> 00:13:08,413 No, not at all. 284 00:13:08,415 --> 00:13:10,081 And he's not actually a lobbyist. 285 00:13:10,083 --> 00:13:11,549 He's a consultant, so... 286 00:13:11,585 --> 00:13:13,251 But your bagman Gary Walsh 287 00:13:13,253 --> 00:13:16,338 referred to him as a lobbyist. 288 00:13:18,342 --> 00:13:22,093 Um, Gary has a very limited set of skills. 289 00:13:23,647 --> 00:13:25,930 Mainly I would say they are picking objects up 290 00:13:25,983 --> 00:13:27,599 and then putting objects back down. 291 00:13:27,601 --> 00:13:30,602 He said he takes care of your sanitary needs. 292 00:13:30,654 --> 00:13:32,404 Is that correct? 293 00:13:32,439 --> 00:13:35,240 Yeah... Yeah... what? 294 00:13:35,275 --> 00:13:37,609 You say your daughter's fiancé Mr. Read is not a lobbyist, 295 00:13:37,661 --> 00:13:39,577 and yet the firm of Merryman & Cotter 296 00:13:39,613 --> 00:13:41,946 lists him under the title of lobbyist 297 00:13:41,999 --> 00:13:44,499 in the "our lobbyists" section of its website. 298 00:13:44,534 --> 00:13:46,584 Well, that's their word. That's not my word. 299 00:13:46,620 --> 00:13:48,620 He is a lobbyist for Christian Aid, Oxfam, 300 00:13:48,672 --> 00:13:50,121 the World Health Organization. 301 00:13:50,173 --> 00:13:52,007 Mm-hmm, well, he sounds like a decent guy, 302 00:13:52,042 --> 00:13:53,508 whatever you want to call him. 303 00:13:53,543 --> 00:13:56,127 Also lobbying for pharmaceutical companies, 304 00:13:56,129 --> 00:14:00,098 large IT organizations, investment banks. 305 00:14:00,133 --> 00:14:02,767 Yes, my fiancé is a lobbyist. 306 00:14:02,803 --> 00:14:05,520 Does that present any difficulties in your relationship? 307 00:14:05,555 --> 00:14:08,023 Not apart from the fact that I am now sitting in a room 308 00:14:08,058 --> 00:14:10,475 with two strangers talking about it on camera. 309 00:14:10,477 --> 00:14:12,811 You don't like being questioned? 310 00:14:12,813 --> 00:14:14,979 Not about my personal life, no, I don't. 311 00:14:14,981 --> 00:14:17,565 I mean, do you? Assuming that you have one. 312 00:14:17,617 --> 00:14:19,150 I don't see that you're wearing a ring, so... 313 00:14:19,202 --> 00:14:21,619 Ms. Meyer, you're gently reminded that this is a deposition. 314 00:14:21,655 --> 00:14:23,238 I won't be as polite next time. 315 00:14:23,290 --> 00:14:25,990 Um, I'm sorry. Can I please take a minute? 316 00:14:26,043 --> 00:14:28,460 - Sure, yeah. Of course. - Thank you. 317 00:14:31,882 --> 00:14:34,833 I'm sorry about that. I just had to get a snack. 318 00:14:34,835 --> 00:14:36,668 My blood sugar was dropping, so... 319 00:14:36,670 --> 00:14:39,137 That's okay. 320 00:14:39,172 --> 00:14:40,839 Do you not see the conflict of interest? 321 00:14:40,891 --> 00:14:42,507 I mean, we are investigating direct links 322 00:14:42,559 --> 00:14:45,310 - between lobbyists and your administration. - Yes, I see it. 323 00:14:45,345 --> 00:14:48,897 - Does it not concern you? - If you would just let me finish my sentence, 324 00:14:48,932 --> 00:14:51,649 that would be very much appreciated. 325 00:14:51,685 --> 00:14:52,767 I do see it. 326 00:14:52,819 --> 00:14:55,937 It is also my understanding 327 00:14:55,989 --> 00:14:59,524 that they may no longer be engaged. 328 00:14:59,576 --> 00:15:01,076 So... 329 00:15:01,111 --> 00:15:03,194 They've split up? 330 00:15:06,032 --> 00:15:08,199 Um, I think... 331 00:15:08,251 --> 00:15:10,502 they may have split up. 332 00:15:10,537 --> 00:15:13,705 In addition to that, I will say that I'm really not certain 333 00:15:13,757 --> 00:15:16,291 that Jac... Ja... Jason was ever right for Catherine. 334 00:15:16,343 --> 00:15:18,293 But you just said that he was sweet. 335 00:15:18,378 --> 00:15:21,212 Mm-hmm. He can be sweet at one moment 336 00:15:21,214 --> 00:15:23,715 and then he can be very controlling in the next moment. 337 00:15:23,767 --> 00:15:28,052 You know, lobbying for Oxfam, or then lobbying for PhRMA. 338 00:15:28,054 --> 00:15:30,555 And I meant consulting. 339 00:15:30,607 --> 00:15:33,057 I have to go. I've got to call the president of Africa. 340 00:15:33,110 --> 00:15:36,644 So... I mean South Africa specifically, you know, so... 341 00:15:38,398 --> 00:15:40,398 Ms. Wilson, it has been said of you 342 00:15:40,450 --> 00:15:43,701 that you could organize the D-Day landings 343 00:15:43,737 --> 00:15:46,404 and still have time left over for Iwo Jima. 344 00:15:46,406 --> 00:15:49,908 And, unlike in reality, I would have gotten Iwo Jima right. 345 00:15:49,910 --> 00:15:52,877 And yet this meeting between the president 346 00:15:52,913 --> 00:15:56,881 and Congressman Pierce, you have no record of that in your schedule. 347 00:15:56,917 --> 00:15:59,000 Congressman Pierce was not disposed 348 00:15:59,052 --> 00:16:01,469 in a manner that was indicative of a meeting. 349 00:16:01,505 --> 00:16:03,805 I literally have no idea what that sentence means. 350 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,091 There's a difference between meeting someone and having a meeting with them. 351 00:16:07,144 --> 00:16:08,343 I mean, I once met Bill Gates, 352 00:16:08,395 --> 00:16:10,261 but I didn't have a "meeting" with him. 353 00:16:10,313 --> 00:16:13,064 We keep meticulous, exhaustive records 354 00:16:13,099 --> 00:16:15,350 of emails, voice memos, 355 00:16:15,402 --> 00:16:17,101 text messages, letters... 356 00:16:17,103 --> 00:16:20,104 Chairman, we have all the emails, letters, texts, 357 00:16:20,157 --> 00:16:23,992 but you mentioned voice memos, Ms. Wilson. 358 00:16:26,196 --> 00:16:27,745 Yes. 359 00:16:27,781 --> 00:16:32,450 Well, we have many forms of communication. 360 00:16:32,502 --> 00:16:36,037 None of which you seem to be able to master at the present moment. 361 00:16:36,089 --> 00:16:38,006 Well, I wasn't responsible for the voice memos. 362 00:16:38,041 --> 00:16:40,792 - So who would know about... - Mike McLintock. 363 00:16:53,473 --> 00:16:54,806 Mr. McLintock, please rise 364 00:16:54,858 --> 00:16:57,475 and raise your right hand. 365 00:16:57,477 --> 00:17:01,646 Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you're about to give is the truth, 366 00:17:01,648 --> 00:17:04,199 the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 367 00:17:04,234 --> 00:17:07,569 So help me God. I do. 368 00:17:07,621 --> 00:17:09,537 We have a witness go on record 369 00:17:09,573 --> 00:17:12,574 saying that they saw you in the White House parking lot 370 00:17:12,626 --> 00:17:16,411 with Mr. Egan, Ms. Brookheimer, and Senator Pierce. 371 00:17:16,463 --> 00:17:18,496 That's correct. 372 00:17:18,498 --> 00:17:21,916 I ran into them by chance 373 00:17:21,968 --> 00:17:26,888 because I was merely getting something from my car. 374 00:17:26,923 --> 00:17:29,257 - What were you getting? - I'm sorry? 375 00:17:29,309 --> 00:17:30,725 What were you getting? 376 00:17:30,810 --> 00:17:34,312 Uh, I was getting some medicine. 377 00:17:34,347 --> 00:17:35,513 What kind of medicine? 378 00:17:35,565 --> 00:17:38,683 Um, it's knee medicine. 379 00:17:38,685 --> 00:17:41,686 Knee medicine? 380 00:17:41,738 --> 00:17:42,987 Yeah, knee medicine. 381 00:17:43,023 --> 00:17:46,774 For one of... just one of my knees. 382 00:17:46,826 --> 00:17:49,360 - Which one? - Which knee? 383 00:17:49,412 --> 00:17:52,330 My left... left knee, Your Honor, sir. 384 00:17:52,365 --> 00:17:55,617 My left knee. I have problems with my left knee. 385 00:17:55,669 --> 00:17:58,002 Um, it hurts when I crouch. 386 00:17:58,038 --> 00:17:59,504 What was the name of the medicine? 387 00:17:59,539 --> 00:18:02,340 Um, I want to say it's called... 388 00:18:04,678 --> 00:18:06,544 Crouch Cream. 389 00:18:07,764 --> 00:18:09,213 But that's not right. 390 00:18:09,266 --> 00:18:12,383 It's a white tube with a red label. 391 00:18:12,435 --> 00:18:14,519 I'm sure an intern could research this. 392 00:18:14,554 --> 00:18:16,554 It has a silhouette of a horse on it. 393 00:18:16,556 --> 00:18:18,640 I don't know why the horse is on there. 394 00:18:18,692 --> 00:18:20,725 I guess horses probably have good knees. 395 00:18:20,777 --> 00:18:24,112 So, um... but I think it's called... 396 00:18:25,815 --> 00:18:29,150 Knee-Z. Knee-Z Cream. 397 00:18:29,202 --> 00:18:31,319 I don't think that's it. It's searchable. 398 00:18:31,371 --> 00:18:33,705 I'm very positive. 399 00:18:33,740 --> 00:18:37,542 Thank you for allowing me to attend to presidential matters. 400 00:18:37,577 --> 00:18:40,378 We still wish to consider the outstanding issues 401 00:18:40,413 --> 00:18:42,413 concerning your daughter and Mr. Read. 402 00:18:42,465 --> 00:18:44,832 Who have definitely split up. 403 00:18:44,884 --> 00:18:48,553 I'm quite undone. I'm really upset. 404 00:18:48,588 --> 00:18:53,174 Um, I had grown quite fond of dear Jason. 405 00:18:53,226 --> 00:18:54,926 You've said he's too old for your daughter 406 00:18:54,978 --> 00:18:57,979 and that he can be controlling and that he has two personalities. 407 00:18:58,014 --> 00:19:00,598 I have a statement I'm going to read. 408 00:19:01,935 --> 00:19:04,102 I am sad to confirm the end 409 00:19:04,104 --> 00:19:08,106 of my daughter Catherine's engagement to Jason Read. 410 00:19:08,158 --> 00:19:10,858 This was for personal reasons unconnected 411 00:19:10,910 --> 00:19:14,529 to the ongoing inquiries into my administration 412 00:19:14,581 --> 00:19:17,615 other than the strain said inquiries brought 413 00:19:17,617 --> 00:19:19,867 upon their relationship. 414 00:19:19,919 --> 00:19:22,754 This may be a good day for truth, 415 00:19:22,789 --> 00:19:26,124 but a sad day for love. 416 00:19:26,176 --> 00:19:28,626 You recommended an app for the president, 417 00:19:28,628 --> 00:19:30,044 - did you not? - Yes, ma'am. 418 00:19:30,096 --> 00:19:33,381 Could you demonstrate how the app works on your phone? 419 00:19:33,433 --> 00:19:35,350 Yes, I'd be happy to. 420 00:19:35,385 --> 00:19:38,136 So you go to your home screen, it's called. 421 00:19:38,188 --> 00:19:39,520 Remember that. 422 00:19:39,556 --> 00:19:41,606 And now you have to send it to someone. 423 00:19:41,641 --> 00:19:43,725 So I could send it to... 424 00:19:43,777 --> 00:19:45,393 you want to give me your number? 425 00:19:45,445 --> 00:19:47,278 - Or I'll just send it to myself. - Fine. 426 00:19:47,313 --> 00:19:50,982 So now all I do is appropriately touch 427 00:19:51,034 --> 00:19:54,068 the icon for record. 428 00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:56,371 And... hey, Mike, it's Mike. 429 00:19:56,406 --> 00:19:58,823 Um... 430 00:19:58,825 --> 00:20:01,409 you're probably not going to get this 431 00:20:01,461 --> 00:20:04,379 'cause you're in the hearings, but I just... 432 00:20:04,414 --> 00:20:06,631 - wanted to tell you... - That's quite enough. 433 00:20:06,666 --> 00:20:07,882 I've got to go, Mike. 434 00:20:07,917 --> 00:20:11,753 And then you just press send. 435 00:20:11,805 --> 00:20:14,889 And it should instantly appear on my memo app. 436 00:20:16,593 --> 00:20:20,061 Which it's not doing. Um, I don't know why. 437 00:20:20,096 --> 00:20:23,731 I guess that's why they say don't work with animals or technology. 438 00:20:23,767 --> 00:20:26,017 I mean, that's why "Jaws" was such a nightmare shoot. 439 00:20:26,019 --> 00:20:28,736 I mean, mechanical shark, forget it. 440 00:20:30,573 --> 00:20:33,274 Oh, Knee Free. That's the cream. 441 00:20:33,326 --> 00:20:34,859 Knee Free, if you... 442 00:20:34,861 --> 00:20:36,611 Okay, here it is. 443 00:20:36,663 --> 00:20:38,780 And... hey, Mike, it's Mike. 444 00:20:38,832 --> 00:20:40,164 Um... 445 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,867 you're probably not going to get this 446 00:20:42,869 --> 00:20:44,285 'cause you're in the hearings, but... 447 00:20:44,337 --> 00:20:45,787 Pretty good clarity. 448 00:20:45,839 --> 00:20:48,005 Could we hear some of the messages that the president sent? 449 00:20:48,041 --> 00:20:51,092 No, because I deleted them. They're deleted. 450 00:20:51,127 --> 00:20:53,511 I mean, truthfully, these things were just 451 00:20:53,546 --> 00:20:56,881 her talking about Advil and lemons. 452 00:20:56,933 --> 00:20:59,884 Well, we'll see how many when we listen to them. 453 00:20:59,936 --> 00:21:01,219 Sadly, sir, I deleted those. 454 00:21:01,271 --> 00:21:02,887 Yeah, but they still exist in the cloud, 455 00:21:02,939 --> 00:21:04,222 as I'm sure you're aware. 456 00:21:07,060 --> 00:21:10,361 Ben, are Dan and Amy on course? 457 00:21:10,396 --> 00:21:13,231 It can't happen. 458 00:21:13,233 --> 00:21:16,067 Well, that could be about anything. 459 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,453 Probably about them... 460 00:21:18,488 --> 00:21:21,823 you know, mating. 461 00:21:21,875 --> 00:21:23,791 And it can't happen? 462 00:21:23,827 --> 00:21:28,212 It can't happen that we lose this vote. 463 00:21:28,248 --> 00:21:30,331 Or is that too far-fetched for you? 464 00:21:30,383 --> 00:21:32,416 Well, why did she mention it, then? 465 00:21:32,418 --> 00:21:33,918 Well, she was feverish. 466 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,220 So you're saying she wasn't in a fit state to govern? 467 00:21:36,256 --> 00:21:37,889 No, I'm not saying that. 468 00:21:37,924 --> 00:21:42,226 If I was saying that, then that's what I would have said. 469 00:21:42,262 --> 00:21:45,146 I mean, why are you throwing pebbles at a tank? 470 00:21:45,181 --> 00:21:46,814 Stop. 471 00:21:46,850 --> 00:21:50,067 You know, that lady, she could govern herself 472 00:21:50,103 --> 00:21:51,652 through leprosy. 473 00:21:51,688 --> 00:21:53,404 How would you characterize your friendship 474 00:21:53,439 --> 00:21:54,939 with Congresswoman Bennett? 475 00:21:54,991 --> 00:21:58,442 Uh, well, I wouldn't say that we're friends. 476 00:21:58,444 --> 00:22:01,362 I would say that we are friendly. 477 00:22:01,414 --> 00:22:03,915 So she's not on the committee to steer them away 478 00:22:03,950 --> 00:22:06,000 from issues that might be uncomfortable for you? 479 00:22:06,035 --> 00:22:07,952 No. Mm-mmm. 480 00:22:07,954 --> 00:22:09,537 I'm president. 481 00:22:09,589 --> 00:22:11,956 I don't have time for friends. 482 00:22:12,008 --> 00:22:14,625 Madam President, it was you 483 00:22:14,627 --> 00:22:17,795 who appointed a special prosecutor 484 00:22:17,797 --> 00:22:19,797 and we are the team under your appointee. 485 00:22:19,849 --> 00:22:21,432 Yeah, well, there you go. 486 00:22:21,467 --> 00:22:23,768 Mr. Ryan. 487 00:22:23,803 --> 00:22:25,803 It has come to this committee's attention 488 00:22:25,855 --> 00:22:28,806 that you suffered some emotional issues 489 00:22:28,808 --> 00:22:31,976 during the run-up to the Families First Bill. 490 00:22:36,316 --> 00:22:37,865 I was touched. 491 00:22:37,901 --> 00:22:39,784 Who touched you? 492 00:22:39,819 --> 00:22:43,454 I would rather not say at this time. 493 00:22:43,489 --> 00:22:44,906 Or any. 494 00:22:44,958 --> 00:22:46,374 Can you give us a reason why? 495 00:22:46,409 --> 00:22:47,909 Excuse me for one moment. 496 00:22:47,961 --> 00:22:50,411 I just have a very... A very dry mouth. 497 00:22:52,999 --> 00:22:55,333 Setting their identity aside... 498 00:22:57,837 --> 00:22:59,837 Setting their identity aside, 499 00:22:59,839 --> 00:23:02,173 where did this person touch you? 500 00:23:02,175 --> 00:23:04,008 Um... 501 00:23:07,096 --> 00:23:10,064 he touched me in a private place. 502 00:23:10,099 --> 00:23:12,149 Can you be more specific? Was it the buttocks? 503 00:23:12,185 --> 00:23:15,353 No. No. 504 00:23:18,024 --> 00:23:21,359 It was... it was around the other side. 505 00:23:21,411 --> 00:23:22,660 The crotch, presumably. 506 00:23:22,695 --> 00:23:24,612 Was there ever any contact 507 00:23:24,664 --> 00:23:27,081 between testicles and hands? 508 00:23:27,116 --> 00:23:28,366 Okay, listen, 509 00:23:28,418 --> 00:23:31,285 I thought that this was supposed to be about lobbying. 510 00:23:31,337 --> 00:23:33,788 And it seems clear that the congresswoman 511 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,875 is pulling focus away from the main concern of this panel. 512 00:23:37,927 --> 00:23:42,263 Similarly with Ms. Brookheimer's dress. 513 00:23:42,298 --> 00:23:45,049 She can't have believed that this would work. 514 00:23:45,051 --> 00:23:46,767 She never looks this humble. 515 00:23:46,803 --> 00:23:49,720 I'm not... I'm not sure what you're referring to, Mr. Ryan. 516 00:23:49,722 --> 00:23:52,023 This is my everyday attire. 517 00:23:52,058 --> 00:23:54,976 And I apologize if it offends you, but... 518 00:23:55,028 --> 00:23:57,061 But you saw what she just did with the... 519 00:23:57,146 --> 00:23:58,529 I mean, you saw that. 520 00:23:58,564 --> 00:24:01,482 She is playing you like a cheap... 521 00:24:01,534 --> 00:24:03,451 - Careful. - Like an Xbox. 522 00:24:03,486 --> 00:24:07,071 Mr. Ryan, trust me, no one is playing us. We are unplayable. 523 00:24:07,073 --> 00:24:09,740 I'd like to hear more on the charges of molestation. 524 00:24:09,792 --> 00:24:11,375 Go ahead. 525 00:24:11,411 --> 00:24:15,813 Was there ever any contact between testicles and hands? 526 00:24:15,848 --> 00:24:18,582 No. Never. 527 00:24:18,584 --> 00:24:22,637 My... spheres 528 00:24:22,672 --> 00:24:24,221 were always clothed. 529 00:24:24,257 --> 00:24:25,640 I was in the workplace, so I... 530 00:24:25,675 --> 00:24:27,758 Did he always grope both testicles? 531 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,727 I'm sorry, but can I be asked that question 532 00:24:29,762 --> 00:24:30,978 by a male committee member? 533 00:24:31,014 --> 00:24:33,180 No, I asked the question. 534 00:24:33,232 --> 00:24:35,016 I'm sorry. I forgot the question. 535 00:24:35,068 --> 00:24:37,735 Did your abuser touch both of your testicles? 536 00:24:38,905 --> 00:24:41,322 - Thank you, Mr. Egan. - Sure. 537 00:24:41,357 --> 00:24:44,108 Who else was aware of this during your time at the White House? 538 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,444 I, uh... I also saw it. 539 00:24:46,446 --> 00:24:48,779 I can't stop... 540 00:24:48,831 --> 00:24:50,748 I can't stop thinking about it. 541 00:24:50,783 --> 00:24:52,616 It's... you know, it's like a bell. 542 00:24:52,669 --> 00:24:54,035 It can't be unrung. 543 00:24:54,087 --> 00:24:55,419 Where did you see it happen? 544 00:24:55,455 --> 00:24:57,371 It was around the spheres. 545 00:24:57,423 --> 00:24:59,090 I meant what area of the workplace. 546 00:24:59,125 --> 00:25:00,925 Oh, yes. No, I'm sorry. Yes. 547 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,461 It was in a hallway. 548 00:25:03,463 --> 00:25:05,179 Same time as Dan. 549 00:25:05,264 --> 00:25:08,049 In fact, he was coming to fire Jonah as a scapegoat 550 00:25:08,101 --> 00:25:10,718 for the child mortality data breach. Oh! 551 00:25:10,770 --> 00:25:13,304 - Okay, there's no further questions. - Whoa, whoa, wait, wait. 552 00:25:13,356 --> 00:25:16,390 Wait, wait. Can you repeat that, Mr. Splett? 553 00:25:16,476 --> 00:25:18,309 Uh, actually, I'd like to plead the fifth. 554 00:25:18,311 --> 00:25:19,560 I'd like to plead the fifth, please. 555 00:25:19,612 --> 00:25:21,145 Mr. Splett, can you repeat... 556 00:25:21,197 --> 00:25:24,065 Can you repeat what you just said, Mr. Splett? 557 00:25:24,117 --> 00:25:26,367 - We were investigating a serious allegation... - Congresswoman. 558 00:25:26,402 --> 00:25:27,902 Of abuse in the... - Please! 559 00:25:27,954 --> 00:25:29,954 Can you repeat what you just said, Mr. Splett? 560 00:25:29,989 --> 00:25:31,789 Yes, I can. I'd like to plead the fifth. 561 00:25:31,824 --> 00:25:33,207 - Before that. - Okay. 562 00:25:33,242 --> 00:25:36,660 Uh, I think I mistakenly said 563 00:25:36,713 --> 00:25:39,747 that Dan was scapegoating Jonah 564 00:25:39,799 --> 00:25:41,665 for the child mortality data breach. 565 00:25:41,667 --> 00:25:45,302 Can you tell us who was responsible for the data breach, Mr. Cafferty? 566 00:25:45,338 --> 00:25:47,004 No. 567 00:25:47,056 --> 00:25:49,390 But you do know who was responsible? 568 00:25:49,425 --> 00:25:51,342 No. 569 00:25:51,394 --> 00:25:55,062 Can you tell us anything at all about said data breach? 570 00:25:55,098 --> 00:25:56,680 No. 571 00:25:56,733 --> 00:25:58,516 Are you gonna continue to answer every question 572 00:25:58,568 --> 00:26:00,151 with a one-word answer, Mr. Cafferty? 573 00:26:00,186 --> 00:26:02,820 No. 574 00:26:02,855 --> 00:26:04,822 I am not. 575 00:26:04,857 --> 00:26:06,490 Okay, that means nothing. 576 00:26:06,526 --> 00:26:10,861 We need a name or this administration is in big trouble. 577 00:26:10,863 --> 00:26:12,913 Gary Walsh, any thoughts? 578 00:26:14,283 --> 00:26:16,033 I don't know who that is. 579 00:26:16,085 --> 00:26:17,701 Who... Gary? 580 00:26:17,754 --> 00:26:19,253 Walsh. 581 00:26:19,288 --> 00:26:20,921 Oh, the... Yeah. 582 00:26:20,957 --> 00:26:23,040 Senator, do you think it's possible 583 00:26:23,042 --> 00:26:25,760 Gary Walsh was responsible for making payments 584 00:26:25,795 --> 00:26:28,012 to Mr. Egan and Ms. Brookheimer 585 00:26:28,047 --> 00:26:30,431 to lobby against the Families First Bill? 586 00:26:32,218 --> 00:26:34,685 Forgive me for laughing at the notion. 587 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,054 Gary Walsh, you need to understand, 588 00:26:37,106 --> 00:26:39,223 is a 12-year-old boy 589 00:26:39,275 --> 00:26:42,026 trapped in the body of a 12-year-old girl. 590 00:26:42,061 --> 00:26:44,895 Did you contact Amy Brookheimer and Daniel Clifford Egan 591 00:26:44,897 --> 00:26:48,566 after they had left the White House with regard to the Families First Bill? 592 00:26:48,618 --> 00:26:49,733 I did. 593 00:26:49,735 --> 00:26:51,318 Did you agree to pay them to lobby 594 00:26:51,370 --> 00:26:52,953 against the bill on behalf of the president? 595 00:26:52,989 --> 00:26:55,573 Nope. Nope, nope, nope, nope. No, I did not. 596 00:26:55,575 --> 00:26:57,708 So did somebody else make this arrangement? 597 00:26:57,743 --> 00:26:59,043 Bill Ericsson. 598 00:26:59,078 --> 00:27:00,628 - Will you let me finish my question? - Mm-hmm. 599 00:27:00,663 --> 00:27:03,631 Someone else arranged to make such a payment? 600 00:27:03,666 --> 00:27:05,416 Yes. 601 00:27:06,752 --> 00:27:09,053 - Who was it? - Bill. 602 00:27:10,590 --> 00:27:12,223 Bill...? 603 00:27:16,145 --> 00:27:19,013 Ericsson. 604 00:27:19,065 --> 00:27:23,067 It was the director of communications Bill Ericsson. 605 00:27:23,102 --> 00:27:25,903 You haven't been asked to say Ericsson, have you? 606 00:27:25,938 --> 00:27:28,322 No. 607 00:27:28,407 --> 00:27:29,907 I believe that Bill Ericsson 608 00:27:29,942 --> 00:27:32,610 would have been overseeing that aspect. 609 00:27:32,612 --> 00:27:34,328 - Bill Ericsson. - Bill Ericsson. 610 00:27:34,363 --> 00:27:36,413 - Mr. Bill Ericsson. - Bill Ericsson. 611 00:27:36,449 --> 00:27:38,749 - Yes, Bill Ericsson. - You listen to me. 612 00:27:38,784 --> 00:27:41,502 I got into politics because I have a very clear sense, 613 00:27:41,537 --> 00:27:44,872 a burning sense of what is right and what is good, all right? 614 00:27:44,924 --> 00:27:47,541 I'm not an attorney, I don't point the finger, 615 00:27:47,593 --> 00:27:49,877 I don't lay blame, that's not who I am. 616 00:27:52,381 --> 00:27:54,265 But in answer to your question, yes, 617 00:27:54,300 --> 00:27:57,218 Bill Ericsson used misappropriated funds 618 00:27:57,270 --> 00:27:59,637 to lobby against the president's bill. 619 00:27:59,689 --> 00:28:01,138 This is a nightmare. 620 00:28:01,140 --> 00:28:02,973 I'm probably gonna be facing criminal charges. 621 00:28:02,975 --> 00:28:05,142 - You consider yourself innocent? - I am innocent. 622 00:28:05,194 --> 00:28:06,810 Do you want me to take off my shirt 623 00:28:06,812 --> 00:28:08,896 so that you can see all the knife handles sticking out of my back? 624 00:28:08,948 --> 00:28:11,065 Where is Congresswoman Bennett? 625 00:28:11,117 --> 00:28:12,533 She is absent. 626 00:28:12,568 --> 00:28:13,817 Yes, I got that. 627 00:28:13,819 --> 00:28:15,786 I took noticing in high school. 628 00:28:15,821 --> 00:28:19,790 I think the real issue now is Bill Ericsson 629 00:28:19,825 --> 00:28:22,326 and what he may have done 630 00:28:22,328 --> 00:28:24,128 or what he may not have done 631 00:28:24,163 --> 00:28:27,498 and how his rogue actions did or did not 632 00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:29,416 affect so many lives. 633 00:28:29,468 --> 00:28:33,337 But that is, of course, for you to determine yourselves. 634 00:28:33,389 --> 00:28:35,256 You're only doing what they want you to do. 635 00:28:35,308 --> 00:28:37,007 You are aware of that, right? 636 00:28:37,059 --> 00:28:38,559 It's like I'm on the sacrificial altar 637 00:28:38,594 --> 00:28:40,594 and suddenly everyone is wearing hoods. 638 00:28:40,646 --> 00:28:43,430 The other day you had fun with my size 639 00:28:43,482 --> 00:28:46,817 and the nicknames that you gave me about my size. 640 00:28:46,852 --> 00:28:48,986 Tall McCartney. 641 00:28:49,021 --> 00:28:50,854 Skyscraper. 642 00:28:50,907 --> 00:28:53,357 But Jonah Ryan is strong. 643 00:28:54,577 --> 00:28:57,995 And if Jonah Ryan can help one man 644 00:28:58,030 --> 00:29:01,332 who is dealing with workplace sexual harassment, 645 00:29:01,367 --> 00:29:04,702 then this entire ordeal will have been worth it. 646 00:29:04,704 --> 00:29:07,538 Watch this space. Thank you. 647 00:29:07,540 --> 00:29:09,173 Thank you. 648 00:29:09,208 --> 00:29:11,292 You know, there are probably fairer trials happening 649 00:29:11,344 --> 00:29:12,710 right now in the back of parking lots 650 00:29:12,762 --> 00:29:14,962 where the defendant is wearing a mailbag on his head. 651 00:29:15,014 --> 00:29:17,381 Please raise your right hand. 652 00:29:17,383 --> 00:29:18,849 Your right hand. 653 00:29:18,884 --> 00:29:20,601 Sorry, I was practicing in the mirror. 654 00:29:20,636 --> 00:29:23,887 Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you're about to give 655 00:29:23,889 --> 00:29:25,606 is the truth, the whole truth, 656 00:29:25,641 --> 00:29:27,775 and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 657 00:29:27,810 --> 00:29:31,195 Absolutely. Excited to do it. 9999 00:00:0,500 --> 00:00:2,00 www.tvsubtitles.net 51596

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