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sorry for the last-minute notice but the
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boss wants you to interview a lady by
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the name of Letty B Kalman at the
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address below she will be in the
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upstairs meeting at the Concord Plaza he
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also said you shouldn't be late to your
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other appointment or it will cost your
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job then don't worry when you get back
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to the office there's plenty of files
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that need to be taken care of see you
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real soon your pals at the office
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tired of these games they changed my
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interview times they changed my
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interviews I'm about to be late to this
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interview something's gotta change
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come here
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yes yes energy very good to know you
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David you so sorry that I'm late
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but it just seems the person that gave
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me the details for this interview kind
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of waited to the last minute that's all
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right I haven't been here very long and
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I have a good story to tell so we're
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good thank you for I understand it share
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let me just
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okay how long have you been with the
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paper David just about a year now
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oh do you like it I do I really do I
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enjoy the work but the work environment
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can sometimes be very challenging oh
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well I imagine working in a big
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newspaper that you would meet all kinds
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of different characters that's the truth
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well I have some specific questions here
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but I like to get to know someone flying
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to do them so if you give me a little
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background on yourself lady how did you
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come into missionary work missionary
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work it all began with my husband
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Charles and I were both raised in Iowa I
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was born there in 1870 in the town of
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Theatre Charles was born in Illinois in
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1868 and he and his family moved to Iowa
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when he was just 2 years old
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their home was near the wood burn
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settlement about 20 miles
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Iowa was a beautiful place covered in
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wildflowers tall prairie grass and
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picturesque farms it was a wonderful
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place to grow up Charles and I didn't
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become acquainted until later in our
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childhoods we had very different
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upbringings
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my father was quite prominent man and we
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enjoyed many luxuries due to his success
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in the banking industry we surrounded
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ourselves with music culture and art and
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I greatly enjoyed learning to play the
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piano I wanted for nothing as a child
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and though my parents were good
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hospitable people
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I don't recall then ever mentioning God
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Charles was brought up in a Christian
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home where daily Bible readings were
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common his family faithfully attended
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church and they also enjoyed nature
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walks and storytelling Charles was
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raised to be studious and to never go
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into debt these are two bad news he
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honored his entire life in the summer of
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1883 Charles at the age of 15 became
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interested in two-leg Rafi
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and through a number of circumstances
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and despite much reservation from his
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parents because of his young age he was
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permitted to go to work at a railway
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station several miles from his home this
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in turn brought him to a village just a
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short distance from our home one day
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while in the village my mother took
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notice of Charles she thought the young
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man seemed lonely and invited him to our
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home for dinner she felt he needed some
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tending to she referred to it as
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smothering soon after our first meeting
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Charles began to walk me home from
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school and my mother would often ask him
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to remain with us for tea our families
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became great friends and as we did it
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was only natural that my friendship with
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Charles grew into more
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early on we were quite smitten with one
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another
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Charles was continually promoted in his
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work which required him to move to other
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stations including Chicago and later to
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Colorado but in the summer of 1889
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Charles returned for my hand in marriage
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he was 21 and I was 19 he did very well
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in telegraphy profession and made a
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comfortable life for us unfortunately
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his relationship with God by this time
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had become distant work and home became
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his focus he took great joy in providing
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us many lectures these luxuries would
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keep us both distracted but it would not
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be long before our cozy little home
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would be shaken by the love of God
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it was in the winter of 1893 when I met
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the Lord at an altar on my knees at a
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children's service my life was changed
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forever to my great delight a month
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later
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Charles was reunited with the Lord and
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both our lives to the completely new
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direction we instantly became involved
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in church and Charles faithfully
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introduced many of his co-workers to the
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Lord among them was Ernest Kilbourne who
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had become a dear friend and faithful
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partner in the mission work to come
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eventually this large group of dedicated
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telegraphers would become known as the
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telegraphers band and would later
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provide much support to mission fields
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in 1894 Charles and I attended a
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missionary convention there we heard
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stories about missionaries in foreign
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countries who continually trusted God
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for their needs we were instantly moved
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by God and we both felt we too
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would be called to mission work later
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Japan would come to the our mission
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David you seem to be distracted is
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everything okay
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it is I'm just thinking about something
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you said earlier oh if I need to repeat
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something let me know I'm not referring
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to your story but it was a comment that
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you made earlier about different
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characters at the workplace and I
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realize my colleagues didn't want me
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working the paper at all if it was left
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up to them I wouldn't be a reporter at
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all I may have misspoke when I mentioned
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it character at the newspaper office it
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seems like to me David that the only one
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with character there at all would be you
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thank you lady but I see my position at
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the paper as more it's a responsibility
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or calling more than a job but I try and
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my motivation is to continue rather than
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falling for the childish behavior that
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my colleagues have well I commend you
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for that David I think that's what we're
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supposed to do when we feel like we're
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doing what the Lord wants us to do and
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that reminds me of how the Lord used
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Charles and I when we were doing
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missionary at work in Japan
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in 1901 we set foot on Japan Charles and
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I along with juji Nakata and later
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Ernest Kilbourne founded what was then
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known as the Oriental Mission Society we
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felt strongly that the natives of the
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land should be evangelized and discipled
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so that they in turn could evangelize
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and disciple their own people
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Charles and the others founded the Bible
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Institute they're locals have come and
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listen to the Word of God daily many
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people gave their lives to the Lord and
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furthered our reach in Japan the central
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purpose of first Timothy is found in
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chapter 3 verse 15 I write so that you
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may know you ought to conduct yourself
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in the house of God which is the Church
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of the Living God the pillar and ground
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of the truth
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the church is God's primary vehicle for
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accomplishing his work on earth the Lord
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has ordained that men and women who have
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trusted him as Savior should be involved
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in working out his will in local
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assemblies around the world Paul wrote
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first Timothy in order to instruct his
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young Protege on how the church should
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function and how mature men and women of
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God should interact in it specifics are
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given on developing and recognizing
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godly leadership and avoiding false
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doctrine in the church Paul insists that
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Christian maturity should be expected in
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leadership while it is being developed
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in the lives of all believers Paul
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offers Timothy a whole list of extremely
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practical advice for leading a church as
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he faced the problems and hardships of
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ministry in a local church Timothy must
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have repeatedly read Paul's letter for
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the valuable insights it offers Paul an
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apostle of Jesus Christ by the
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commandment of God our Savior and the
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Lord Jesus Christ our hope to Timothy a
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true son in faith grace mercy and peace
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from God our Father in Jesus Christ our
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Lord
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there shall be no other doctrine as I
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urged you when I went into Macedonia
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remain in a thesis that you may charge
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some that they teach no other doctrine
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nor give heed to fables and endless
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genealogies which cause disputes rather
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than godly edification which is in faith
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now the purpose of the commandment is
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love from a pure heart from a good
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conscience and from sincere faith from
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which some having strayed have turned
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aside to idle talk desiring to be
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teachers of the law understanding
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neither what they say nor the things
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which they affirm
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sadly however at the end of the year of
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1917 a drastic change would come for us
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Charles constant work and lack of sleep
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began to catch up with him he was
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severely worn out the next several years
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would prove to be extremely hard for us
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it was then we would have to face our
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own generality through many many dark
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days and long desperate nights we would
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come to see God in a whole new life
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and we would come to know him in a much
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more intimate way than ever before
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Charles you okay Charles are you okay
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what's the matter
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Charles what's wrong
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turns
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so I back again it's never hurt like
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this before okay take a deep breath
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I mean are you okay
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take a deep breath
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Oh Charles I'm gonna I'm gonna go back
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to camp and I'm gonna bring the doctor
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will you be okay here I'll be right back
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so Charles thank you for having me over
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to your house today first of all would
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you like to tell me what's going on well
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it's been a tightness in my in my chest
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and a shortage of breath mostly today
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when we were out in the villages
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evangelizing it felt as though the
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breath were being taken right from me
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and I felt very sharp pains in my back
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and shortness of breath almost as though
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I I couldn't breathe
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and is that when you called for me yes
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that's when I had my wife go to you and
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I thought perhaps this could be more
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serious than than what I thought it has
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been well Charles it is a good thing
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that you called for me and I'll tell you
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why I honestly do think that this is
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possible your heart have you had any of
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these pains or this tightness in your
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chest before today I've always had a
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strong heart doctor but I suppose the
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pains and the shortness of breath have
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been going on for well the last two or
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three years I guess that's interesting
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Charles now what I think you need most
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of all is more than likely rest
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let me not jump to any conclusions but
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you do definitely need rest I need to do
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a little more studying on this and I do
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want to talk to a few my colleagues if
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it is what I think it is you'll probably
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need to be on bed rest and probably
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indefinitely and I honestly think you
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probably need to go back to the States
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for this bed rest no there's too much
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work to do here in Japan still perhaps a
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couple days of rest but there's too much
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work to do doctor I understand
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and that's why I really don't want to
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jump to any conclusions yet let's do
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this I'm gonna make an appointment for
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you in the next few days and I want you
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to come and stop by my office well
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Charles I best be going now
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but I would like to see you in my office
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in a couple of days and by then I should
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have some of those answers how does that
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sound Charles I suppose that's fair
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enough
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I don't believe the Lord I'm gonna have
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us quit doing the work that we're doing
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here
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I understand
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and although I do agree with the doctor
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about too much what's required to rest
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that my body needs
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I won't be led astray will work the Lord
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has us doing here in Japan
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I believe with you Charles and I want
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you to be healed from this
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whatever this is
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why would the Lord heal so many people
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that we work with each and every day did
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not heal me is he limited in his ability
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I don't believe so my sweet lady I don't
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believe so
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Charles is bothered by the idea that he
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might have to go back to the States
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after 16 years of dedicated service to
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the Lord in Japan this is the time that
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Charlie began to isolate himself in
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prayer for hours at a time in order to
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hear from God Charles did not know how
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sick he was at the time but he wanted
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God's voice to lead him
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he would write down whatever he heard
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the Lord speak to him so as to be sure
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of his direction
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Charles was a servant to the Lord and he
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knew that in the hard times he was to
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lean hard on the Lord's direction
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instead of choosing his own way
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I admired this about Charles it was a
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grace given to him to do what the Lord
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had called him to do
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at this point in life trusting God was
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an everyday occurrence for Charles and I
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as we were at the helm of the missions
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work God had for us to do for most of us
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we all returned to God in our hard times
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and because of this we miss hearing
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God's voice because we're not familiar
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with it unfortunately we know our voice
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and the voice of the others around us
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better than the Holy Spirit's voice and
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because of this we often pray our
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desires get me out of this help me with
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this help me with that
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it seems listening is a lost art in
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today's world Charles never did lose
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sight of what was most important and
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that is God's voice in the midst of his
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trial he waited upon the Lord
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but although listening
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I believe Charles did not want to hear
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that he was seriously ill God used the
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doctors words to confirm what he was
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telling him in prayer
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hello Charles good morning doctor how
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are you well Charles I have some really
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tough news for you it most definitely is
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your heart and I'm really sorry about
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that
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your condition has really progressed and
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as I suspected before you're going to
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need a lot of rest
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fortunately Charles as you can see
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sitting here in my office today your
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condition hasn't progressed to the point
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where it can't be helped
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like I mentioned in our previous
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conversation Charles you have a serious
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condition and it will only worsen if you
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don't get any rest it only worsen if you
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don't take care of your body how much
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rest do you suggest doctor a week
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perhaps two I'm sorry to tell you
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Charles
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but this is my recommendation that you
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need to return immediately to the States
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and you need to be on bed rest
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indefinitely doctor I died how can that
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be
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indefinite bedrest that's correct
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Charles I'm not going to say that you
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will die tomorrow but if you don't start
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taking immediate rest you will
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definitely suffer the consequences I
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know that your heart is here with the
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Japanese people and that you have helped
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a lot of people already but in my
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opinion I think it is time for you to
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start focusing on helping yourself and
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for that I am truly sorry Charles
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so as the Lord led us we followed him to
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Hollywood California
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where a good friend of ours allowed us
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to live in a house that he owned there
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of course this was a real blessing
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because we needed to get back in the
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states so that we could get the best
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medical attention for Charles how did
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Charles handle not being able to be part
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of the ministry anymore oh no Charles
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was willing to come to the States
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but he was not willing to do what the
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doctors told him to do and that was to
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take it easy no sir he continued to go
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to churches continuing to raise support
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for the mission work in Japan
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sounds like Charles had a very
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determined so when it came to doing the
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mission work in Japan oh yes
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Charles had initiated at the great
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village campaign where our ministry
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would go to every person in Japan and
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share the gospel with them of course
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when we had to return home Charles was
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not able to witness the completion of
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this campaign every person in Japan that
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is an amazing joy was it ever completed
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as a matter of fact we received word of
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the completion of the campaign in
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January 1918 that was just four months
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after we returned to California so how
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many people were reached in that
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campaign over 60 million amazing
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so Charles must have been so proud that
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the work he started so long ago is
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finally complete proud yes
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but Charles was a missionary warrior as
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a soul winner he did not become
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complacent when it came to introducing
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the Lord to those who had never met him
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China became Charles focus and he would
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talk about it often
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Charles
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what is that Letty have you considered
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when we go into China starting the
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church from the center of China and
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branching out from there like the early
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church did from Jerusalem
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you know Letty I hadn't thought about
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that that doesn't sound like a bad idea
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and of course as the Lord leads us we
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will follow
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of course Charles we will will be led by
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the Lord like we always have been then
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we'll know that we're being led properly
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that we won't be led astray I'm sure
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that work in China will be a greater
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work than we can even imagine I believe
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that too Charlie I the Lord has placed
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this on my heart as well you know Lettie
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I hadn't had a chance to share this with
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you yet but the Lord has placed upon my
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heart a message to get to the ministries
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so that we may be able to go out and
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raise the money necessary to continue
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the missions in Japan well that sounds
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wonderful Charles would you share it
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with me it's quite clear the Lord has
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given me this scripture
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to help fulfill the mission of the
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church on this earth so that his works
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may be able to be accomplished just in
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the way that Paul gave Timothy a letter
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to guide him
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as a young man leading the church so too
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must we give the missions and the
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missionaries instruction and provision
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so that the will of the Lord may be
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fulfilled here on earth in 1904 thirteen
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years before we came home Charles was in
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America raising funds for the missions
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in Japan when he was approached by three
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Korean nationals he had attended our
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Tokyo Bible Training Institute years
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later God would lead Charles to start an
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Institute in Korea to evangelize and
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train the locals so it wasn't just in
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Japan that you were there no I remember
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when the Lord spoke to Charles about
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China because on that very day in a
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separate location God had spoken to
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Ernest Kilbourne about China as well God
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started sharing his vision with both of
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them in about the very same time yes
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interesting Charles would study China
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day and night and would keep in touch
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with Ernest very often by letter about
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the work that was to be done in China
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dear Charles we do hope that you are
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finding time to rest my friend
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the work here continues to go forward
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the Lord has given us his enduring
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strength the men are fiercely working
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from dusk till dawn to complete the
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great village campaign
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I must tell you
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but I have come under my own burden as
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well
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and I will be sailing home soon my dear
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wife is also enduring
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extreme exhaustion
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it should not be long before we will see
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you in California I write so that you
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will not be too surprised of our
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presence there with you
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juji and the men are full of fervor
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however they are also very concerned for
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you
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prayers day and night are being lifted
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on yours and Letty's behalf I will see
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you soon my friend
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I know that you will want to speak about
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the many affairs here as well as our
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future in China
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sincerely Ernest Kilbourne
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we could start in hunan
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go through
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2:13 Lake and work our way to Hong Kong
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just some distance to travel
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or
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perhaps we come around
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- Szechuan and work towards the Gulf of
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Tom King
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and then up to Hong Kong
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goddess Lord guide us and we will surely
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follow
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show us where we need to go but father
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wherever you guide us wherever you take
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us we will follow you follow with our
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hearts none of their minds follow you
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Lord take us where you want us to take
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this ministry we can build the church on
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earth so that you can do the work here
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through us
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guide us and we will follow in the name
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of the Lord Jesus Christ amen
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[Music]
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the mission work is very important to
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Charles so when the doctors of
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California told him he should be on bed
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rest with very little activity he didn't
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listen to them you mean he didn't stay
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in bed much no I mean he didn't stay in
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California are you ready to go I'm sorry
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for taking so long
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ready it's just getting harder sure how
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are you feeling well we're willing Lord
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willing I'm not gonna stop just crowds
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out there waiting to hear what I have to
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say and I'm gonna keep preaching to them
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and to keep going they have to hear what
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I have to say we have to raise that
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money for the missions in Japan it's
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just too important I know you don't
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agree with me pushing myself like this
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but Lord is keeping me standing
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man willing
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Charles and I traveled to many different
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states together as he would preach to
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churches to tell them about the support
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that was needed for the missions
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overseas so how did Charles his help
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hold up to all that traveling for a time
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it seemed like his health had recovered
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but when traveling from a summer camp
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meeting in Ohio to Michigan
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he suffered another heart attack and he
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had to see a local doctor that told him
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to return to California and get some
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rest the heart attacks continued and it
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was then that terms realized he was
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serious with you
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[Music]
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as it was his heart that was sick
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sleeping in his chair became more and
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more common he would stay up with pains
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some time all night long
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often times I would wake up about the
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time
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Charles was falling asleep
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some mornings he would share with me the
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encouragement the Lord had given him
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through the many books he would read
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while up so late at night
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[Music]
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[Music]
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although I'm dead I would often wake up
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to the sound of Charles praying in the
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other room father read you
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[Music]
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whether or not Charles was feeling up to
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it
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he would faithfully read and respond to
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the many letters from missionaries
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around the world it seemed as soon as
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Charles would read one letter the
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postman would bring three more in its
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place
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[Music]
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the letters were never lacking in their
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attempt to encourage us they would be
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filled with scriptures and stories of
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how Charles and I were the reason
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someone else decided to follow God's
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call on their life
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Charles never stopped appreciating these
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letters as they would come in at just
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the right time to lift his soul as
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Charles health declined we would receive
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more letters from around the world we
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also received many visitors many of whom
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were missionaries themselves some had
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received training from OMS and others
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were themselves leaders in the mission
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field there was a common thread
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communicated from them all and that was
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the hope that God would do a mighty
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miracle of healing and raised Charles up
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from his deathbed of course I was
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content with just having Charles with me
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to visit with and to talk to
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but I never stood in the way of the many
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visitors that would spend hours visiting
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with him because I knew it was the Lord
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bringing the opportunity of ministry to
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Charles now David you have to understand
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that we were still believing God very
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strongly that Charles would not be
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allowed to die we wanted to see God do a
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great miracle in Charles life and a
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great many people around the world who
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had also written us letters they felt
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the same way this had to be a very hard
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trial for Charles it seems did he doubt
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at all that he be healed it was a hard
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time but throughout Charles illness I
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can only remember one time when he
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wavered in his faith Charles put his
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trust in the Lord and he proclaimed it
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daily Lettie what about you you must
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have had a hard time do this oh yes I
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was tested by the situation as well but
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as much as I wanted to see Charles
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healed the Lord began to share with me
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that he would be taken to heaven
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although I didn't want to see it over a
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long period of time the tug of war
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between my wants and God's plan began to
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subside
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Oh Lenny I need to make a call from my
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next interview is it okay if we take a
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break real quick so I can make a phone
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call
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sure no problem okay I'll read a little
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further in my streams oh you run attack
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job 23:10 he hath acquainted himself
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with my beaten path when he has searched
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me out I shall come out shining Oh
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operator can you transfer me to
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transcontinental industry
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mr. Gordon David James I'm the reporting
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as a sign to interview you today I'm
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just calling to let you know that our
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pointment it's still good for 3 o'clock
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I will be there and we're still a
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girlfriend's afternoon faith grows amid
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storms just for words but oh how full of
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import to the soul who has been in the
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storms faith is that god-given faculty
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which when exercised brings the unseen
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into plain view and by which the
698
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impossible things are made possible it
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deals with supernaturals but it grows
700
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amid storms that is where there are
701
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disturbances in the spiritual atmosphere
702
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storms are caused by the conflicts of
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elements and the storms of the spiritual
704
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world are conflicts with hostile
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elements in such an atmosphere faith
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finds its most productive soil in such
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an element becomes more quickly to full
708
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fruition the staunchest tree is not
709
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found in the shelter of the forest but
710
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out in the open where the winds from
711
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every quarter beat upon it and bend and
712
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twist it until it becomes a giant in
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stature this is the tree which the
714
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mechanic wants his tools made of and the
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wagon makers ceased so in the spiritual
716
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world when you see a giant remember the
717
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road you must travel to come up to his
718
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side is not along the sunny lane where
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wildflowers ever bloom but a steep rocky
720
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narrow pathway where the blasts of hell
721
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will almost blow you off your feet where
722
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the sharp rocks cut the flesh where the
723
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projecting thorns scratched the brow and
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the venomous beasts
725
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hiss on every side it's a pathway of
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sorrow
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Angele of suffering and healing balm of
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00:46:58,029 --> 00:47:07,930
tears and smiles of trials and victories
729
00:47:02,589 --> 00:47:11,038
of conflicts and triumphs of hardships
730
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and perils and buffetings of
731
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persecutions and misunderstandings of
732
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troubles and distress through all of
733
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which we are made more than conquerors
734
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through him who loves us maybe 15 20
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minutes or so okay sure sure
736
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okay that works for you that works for
737
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:40,420
me
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that's definitely that we can do yeah
739
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yeah okay all right sounds great
740
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we'll see you through the clock thank
741
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,439
you sir
742
00:47:54,880 --> 00:48:02,570
amid storms right in the midst where it
743
00:47:59,210 --> 00:48:07,490
is fiercest you may shrink back from the
744
00:48:02,570 --> 00:48:10,970
ordeal of a fierce storm of trial but go
745
00:48:07,490 --> 00:48:13,939
in God is there to meet you in the
746
00:48:10,970 --> 00:48:15,799
center of all of your trials and it was
747
00:48:13,940 --> 00:48:18,440
for his secrets which will make you come
748
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:21,710
forth with a shining face and an
749
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:24,260
indomitable faith that all the demons of
750
00:48:21,710 --> 00:48:29,470
Hell shall never afterwards cause to
751
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waiver written by Ernest Kilbourne
752
00:48:41,450 --> 00:48:54,649
I'm sorry for the page when I left you
753
00:48:52,940 --> 00:48:57,950
said you'd be reading from the streams
754
00:48:54,650 --> 00:49:00,740
in the desert devotion my notes say that
755
00:48:57,950 --> 00:49:03,710
that was your first book am i right yes
756
00:49:00,740 --> 00:49:06,169
I was reading from the streams in the
757
00:49:03,710 --> 00:49:08,360
desert and I'd like to say of all the
758
00:49:06,170 --> 00:49:11,270
books that I've written this is the one
759
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that the Lord gave me sounds like
760
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there's a lot of history behind that
761
00:49:13,070 --> 00:49:20,210
book can you share me just for the
762
00:49:15,470 --> 00:49:22,490
interview yes David this book is a
763
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compilation of the many encouragement
764
00:49:22,490 --> 00:49:32,029
the Lord gave us during the time Charles
765
00:49:24,890 --> 00:49:35,540
was ill six long years I see through the
766
00:49:32,030 --> 00:49:39,500
process of Charles getting weaker I even
767
00:49:35,540 --> 00:49:43,190
became ill myself the emotional toll was
768
00:49:39,500 --> 00:49:45,800
unbearable on both of us but in God's
769
00:49:43,190 --> 00:49:49,090
faithful character we began to see how
770
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:53,950
he was encouraging us on a daily basis
771
00:49:49,090 --> 00:49:56,020
it was from letters from our friends and
772
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books at times
773
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luckily the Lord never failed us
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[Music]
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[Music]
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[Music]
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[Music]
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[Music]
779
00:51:44,210 --> 00:51:47,409
[Music]
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Charles Charles
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[Music]
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[Music]
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00:52:28,990 --> 00:52:34,540
many men oh the grandeur of their lives
784
00:52:31,900 --> 00:52:36,580
to their tremendous difficulties this
785
00:52:34,540 --> 00:52:40,840
one looks like a great one we should
786
00:52:36,580 --> 00:52:48,520
read this if you were done fooling
787
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:50,650
around one day as we were walking along
788
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:54,370
the ocean we realized we hadn't received
789
00:52:50,650 --> 00:52:58,180
an encouragement that day but just as we
790
00:52:54,370 --> 00:53:01,150
discussed it a strong gust of wind blew
791
00:52:58,180 --> 00:53:05,410
a gospel tract right at our feet I
792
00:53:01,150 --> 00:53:08,710
picked it up and are ready to loud and
793
00:53:05,410 --> 00:53:12,330
it encouraged us both it was just like
794
00:53:08,710 --> 00:53:15,910
one of the tracks that we used in Japan
795
00:53:12,330 --> 00:53:17,560
that's a good story I have to say that
796
00:53:15,910 --> 00:53:21,129
I've been really encouraged by your
797
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:23,650
stories today it was such a struggle but
798
00:53:21,130 --> 00:53:26,560
the faith you place then got to go
799
00:53:23,650 --> 00:53:30,730
through all that you did that's just
800
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:32,620
incredible the Lord is a great encourage
801
00:53:30,730 --> 00:53:34,780
your David
802
00:53:32,620 --> 00:53:35,430
and that reminds me of another thing the
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Lord did
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[Music]
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[Music]
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you know the Lord has done so much work
807
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,070
through our lives
808
00:53:58,190 --> 00:54:02,869
even though we left Japan five years ago
809
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,400
feels just like yesterday
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00:54:07,500 --> 00:54:12,170
it does feel just like yesterday
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[Music]
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but all of our pain and our suffering
813
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:18,400
seems to be working in God's plan
814
00:54:19,390 --> 00:54:25,549
the streams in the desert look will be a
815
00:54:22,210 --> 00:54:32,080
great encouragement to other people
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00:54:25,550 --> 00:54:32,080
[Music]
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yes
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all of our suffering hasn't been only
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[Music]
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a good friend of ours knew Charles
821
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situation was worsening and from a
822
00:54:52,990 --> 00:54:59,020
gracious heart he gave us a car with the
823
00:54:55,119 --> 00:55:01,150
hopes of making our lives easier you see
824
00:54:59,020 --> 00:55:03,340
he knew Charles and I would often make
825
00:55:01,150 --> 00:55:04,990
our way to use the bookstores and
826
00:55:03,340 --> 00:55:08,560
libraries looking for new written
827
00:55:04,990 --> 00:55:11,140
encouragement the Lord would give us but
828
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soon even that would have to come to an
829
00:55:11,140 --> 00:55:15,670
end as Charles could not even make the
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short walk to the car any longer
831
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let me I can't make it today
832
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we're almost to the car
833
00:55:21,859 --> 00:55:24,880
can you get there or doing do we need to
834
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go back
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[Music]
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we need to go back
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[Music]
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the car was such a blessing to us and we
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can't use it
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I want you to take the car and sell it
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the missions need the money
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you can sell the car and give it to the
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missions
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mr. Jordan where do you think that
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gentleman over there is going through
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such a tough time when he's helped so
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many people in his life
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I don't know Nikki there's some things
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that just can't be understood there's no
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reason that makes sense why people go
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through some of the things that they do
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but I can tell you that today is the
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first time that I've ever seen him not
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smile there must be something going
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I suppose but I have a serious game of
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croquet to get back to I'll see you
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later okay bye have fun
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it wasn't long before the Lord brought a
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buyer and we were able to give the money
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to the missionaries overseas that needed
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it so desperately and it filled our
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hearts to do so
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ma'am may I ask why you're selling such
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a splendid automobile of course my
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husband and I have been missionaries in
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Japan for the past several years and
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someone gave us this car is a blessing
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however my husband Charles has become
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very very ill and we're unable to use
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the car now he suggested we sell it the
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proceeds from the sale of the car will
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be used to meet a need of other
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missionaries in Japan thank you for the
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wonderful opportunity and I do hope your
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husband is well soon thank you very much
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this is the amount we agreed upon thank
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you let's go and sign the paperwork and
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the automobile will be yours after you
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[Music]
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[Music]
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although Charles being taken by the Lord
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was not a new thought in my mind I had
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somehow not been preparing myself for it
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instead I was hoping and asking the Lord
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for his healing and when I did allow the
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Lord to speak freely about the situation
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my heart would not fully embrace and
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accept the reality that was to come
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[Music]
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but only because of my wishful thinking
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was I not prepared for the inevitable
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[Music]
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the pain was unbearable
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[Music]
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when Charles took his last breath it was
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is that the oxygen from both of our
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lungs was taken and for the first time
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since except in Christ
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I was lost my emotions ruled over me as
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if I was not in control and this was not
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just for a little while I had lost my
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charlie my husband my life long friend
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[Music]
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we were rare lovers that must have been
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a hard day yes not only a hard day at
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the beginning of verse three months of
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my life I refuse to see anyone and
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comfort was the last thing on my heart
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although at the time I would not allow
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encouragement I did read a passage from
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Charles diary I brought it with me
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would you mind if I read it to you for
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the story you're writing I don't know
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okay thank you July 16 1924 I think God
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for you I loved one
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as for no other gift of his bestowing
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you cannot know what you are to me
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everything in our lives has done like
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ten whining of a golden thread you'll
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not have anyone after I'm gone but God
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dearest
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the Lienhard Grayson comfort will be
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given
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the work will need your Minister has
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never before dedicate yourself to it the
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Lord has raised you out to be a witness
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to the ends of the earth after a time
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you should go out to the Orient and
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encourage your brethren do your utmost
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for China see to it that the Bible
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training schools are established just
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follow the Lord as he leads step-by-step
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his plan one for
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I would advise you not to spend too much
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time at my grave
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I'll not be there you know the Lord will
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bring you triumphant me through and
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there will be the sweetest reunion in
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the Summerland
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don't let the song go out of your life
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and maybe I too shall hear it and be
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glad that's very unfair lady Charles was
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a very encouraging person but like I
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said I wasn't desiring encouragement at
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the time and then the demos a very good
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friend of mine and also the nurse who
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was by my side all throughout Charles
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and my struggles saw me go through this
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firsthand
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of course on this day I was crushed but
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one person was there for me and that is
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Lydia demos
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our dear nurse Lydia bellows was there
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when Charles passed on just as she had
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been for many months during his illness
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I was grateful for her companionship and
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care
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the Lord sent her as well as others to
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be a source of his strength and care
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Lydia was and is special
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her quiet way of giving has been a
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tremendous blessing to me after 30 years
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she still takes care of me to this day
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my soul was not able to be encouraged
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the Lord had a hard time cheering me up
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wait what do you mean the Lord had a
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hard time cheering you up I know you're
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a Christian so why would the Lord have a
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hard time cheering you up well it's just
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like I said the Lord couldn't cheer me
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up because I was refusing to be
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encouraged I knew where Charles was and
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I was very glad for him to be with the
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Lord but in my loss I felt abandoned I
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knew the truth that the Lord was with me
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and I was willing to let him gift me up
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but not just yet
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looking back now I appreciate the Lord
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just letting me be me
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he let me take all the time I needed to
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be encouraged because after all I had
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just lost the love of my life oh I see
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you encouraged but just on your own
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terms that's the beauty of humanity God
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created us to operate with our free will
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God is so gentle with us and our hard
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times he's a great healer and a very
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good friend and that's why I believe
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streams in the desert is a great
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encourage er for anyone who reads it
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the streams in the desert book is a
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compilation of many different writers
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one that I particularly remember is July
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19th the cup which my father have given
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me shall I not drink it John 1811 this
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was a greater thing to say and do than
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to calm the seas or raise the dead
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prophets and apostles could work wonders
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miracles but they could not always do
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and suffer the will of God to do and
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01:05:44,390 --> 01:05:50,600
suffer God's will is still the highest
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01:05:46,550 --> 01:05:53,590
form of faith the most sublime Christian
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01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:55,910
achievement to have the bright
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01:05:53,590 --> 01:05:59,960
aspirations of a young life forever
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blasted to bear a daily bird never
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01:05:59,960 --> 01:06:06,350
congenial and to see no relief to be
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01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:08,930
pinched by poverty when you only desire
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01:06:06,350 --> 01:06:12,560
a competency for the good and comfort of
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01:06:08,930 --> 01:06:16,549
loved ones to be fettered by some
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01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:19,100
incurable physical disability to be
1014
01:06:16,550 --> 01:06:24,420
stripped bare of loved ones until you
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01:06:19,100 --> 01:06:28,799
stand alone to meet the shocks of life
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01:06:24,420 --> 01:06:32,490
to be able to say in such a school of
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01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:37,170
discipline the cup which my father has
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01:06:32,490 --> 01:06:40,350
given me shall I not drink it this is
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01:06:37,170 --> 01:06:45,270
faith that its highest and spiritual
1020
01:06:40,350 --> 01:06:47,580
success at the crowning point great
1021
01:06:45,270 --> 01:06:51,810
faith is exhibited not so much an
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01:06:47,580 --> 01:06:53,759
ability to do as to suffer to have a
1023
01:06:51,810 --> 01:06:57,509
sympathizing God we must have a
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01:06:53,760 --> 01:07:00,300
suffering Savior and there is no true
1025
01:06:57,510 --> 01:07:03,150
fellow-feeling with another save in the
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01:07:00,300 --> 01:07:07,560
heart of him who has been afflicted like
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01:07:03,150 --> 01:07:11,160
him we cannot do good to others save at
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01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:13,890
a cost to ourselves and our afflictions
1029
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:19,259
are the price we pay for our ability to
1030
01:07:13,890 --> 01:07:22,819
sympathize he who would be a helper must
1031
01:07:19,260 --> 01:07:26,269
first be a supper
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01:07:22,819 --> 01:07:29,239
he who would be a savior unless
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01:07:26,269 --> 01:07:32,538
somewhere and somehow have been upon a
1034
01:07:29,239 --> 01:07:34,729
cross and we cannot have the highest
1035
01:07:32,539 --> 01:07:36,979
happiness of life in helping others
1036
01:07:34,729 --> 01:07:41,118
without tasting the cup which Jesus
1037
01:07:36,979 --> 01:07:44,569
drank and also submitting to the baptism
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01:07:41,119 --> 01:07:46,910
wherewith he was baptized most
1039
01:07:44,569 --> 01:07:50,630
comforting of David songs were pressed
1040
01:07:46,910 --> 01:07:53,959
out by submarine and if Paul had not had
1041
01:07:50,630 --> 01:07:56,239
his thorn in the flesh we would have
1042
01:07:53,959 --> 01:08:01,368
missed much of that tenderness which
1043
01:07:56,239 --> 01:08:03,859
Quivers in so many of his letters the
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01:08:01,369 --> 01:08:07,130
present circumstance which presses so
1045
01:08:03,859 --> 01:08:11,419
hard against you if you're surrendered
1046
01:08:07,130 --> 01:08:16,809
to Christ is the best shaped tool in the
1047
01:08:11,419 --> 01:08:21,130
father's hand to chisel you for eternity
1048
01:08:16,809 --> 01:08:25,199
trust him then do not push away the
1049
01:08:21,130 --> 01:08:28,719
instrument lest you lose its work
1050
01:08:25,198 --> 01:08:32,799
strange and difficult indeed we may find
1051
01:08:28,719 --> 01:08:35,788
it but the blessing that we need is
1052
01:08:32,799 --> 01:08:41,229
behind it the school of suffering
1053
01:08:35,788 --> 01:08:43,868
graduates rare scholars so streams in
1054
01:08:41,229 --> 01:08:47,709
the desert is more of a history to you
1055
01:08:43,868 --> 01:08:50,348
than a David devotional yes I guess that
1056
01:08:47,710 --> 01:08:53,559
is a good way to say it of course there
1057
01:08:50,349 --> 01:08:58,960
were years of writings and notes that
1058
01:08:53,559 --> 01:09:01,809
all had to be put in one book I said if
1059
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:05,219
you believe me as to what to include in
1060
01:09:01,809 --> 01:09:08,679
the book I will compile it for you Lord
1061
01:09:05,219 --> 01:09:13,710
he was faithful and the book was
1062
01:09:08,679 --> 01:09:16,509
completed so when was the book completed
1063
01:09:13,710 --> 01:09:20,948
well that's quite a story in itself
1064
01:09:16,509 --> 01:09:23,198
the first publication was in 1924 but we
1065
01:09:20,948 --> 01:09:26,439
had a misstep with a printer and we had
1066
01:09:23,198 --> 01:09:28,408
to go back to the drawing board of
1067
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:32,618
course Charles went to be with the Lord
1068
01:09:28,408 --> 01:09:36,519
September of that same year but the book
1069
01:09:32,618 --> 01:09:39,670
was released again in 1925 and to the
1070
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:43,239
amazement of us all it has never been
1071
01:09:39,670 --> 01:09:45,578
out of print since it seems to me you're
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01:09:43,238 --> 01:09:48,638
suffering along with perseverance you
1073
01:09:45,578 --> 01:09:51,429
paid off I could never have done it
1074
01:09:48,639 --> 01:09:55,929
without the Lord streets that's for sure
1075
01:09:51,429 --> 01:09:57,909
I remember the printer telling me that
1076
01:09:55,929 --> 01:10:01,480
it would probably only sell about 500
1077
01:09:57,909 --> 01:10:06,489
copies but the Lord had a different plan
1078
01:10:01,480 --> 01:10:06,789
that no man could stop a dear friend of
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01:10:06,489 --> 01:10:10,928
mine
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01:10:06,789 --> 01:10:13,360
Esther Ernie asked me one time why
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01:10:10,929 --> 01:10:15,010
streams in the desert was so popular and
1082
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:17,619
so much more popular than the other
1083
01:10:15,010 --> 01:10:19,170
books I had written I told her the
1084
01:10:17,619 --> 01:10:23,250
streams in the desert was
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01:10:19,170 --> 01:10:26,160
oran but the other books I had just
1086
01:10:23,250 --> 01:10:28,530
written well Eddie I didn't plan on
1087
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:30,780
interviewing here today but it seems as
1088
01:10:28,530 --> 01:10:33,660
if God had us to meet for another reason
1089
01:10:30,780 --> 01:10:35,730
I have been very encouraged by your
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01:10:33,660 --> 01:10:36,990
faith and I'm planning on getting a copy
1091
01:10:35,730 --> 01:10:47,580
of your book today
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[Music]
1093
01:10:47,580 --> 01:10:53,409
here you go David this is one of the
1094
01:10:50,980 --> 01:10:55,989
original copies that I've held on to
1095
01:10:53,409 --> 01:10:59,290
from four years that came from the first
1096
01:10:55,989 --> 01:11:02,769
printing and I want you to have it ready
1097
01:10:59,290 --> 01:11:08,320
Larry I can't choose from oh yes you can
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01:11:02,770 --> 01:11:10,050
with my blessing and remember when
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01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:13,420
you're going through the trials of life
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listen for God's voice over all the
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others and he will guide your way thank
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you
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[Music]
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what is your purpose
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how does one define their purpose today
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I had the pleasure of interviewing a
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person than his left of life she and her
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husband along with Judy Nakata and
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Ernest Kilbourne started a worldwide
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Bible Training Institute her name is
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Lady B Calvin Lettie has also authored
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many books including the beloved streams
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in the desert devotional as I
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interviewed Lady today she shared with
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me her history and how she and her
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husband were challenged along their
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ministry journey her husband was
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stricken with heart disease and
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ultimately forced from the mission field
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she would later lose her husband to the
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disease and suffer great agony because
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of but to my surprise she has a very
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positive view of all of her life's
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events
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most people I believe would have a very
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different take on why these events
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happen but Lenny
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attributes her positive attitude to her
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faith in God most people are familiar
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with the devotional book she and her
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husband put together before Charles died
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but what most don't know is that they
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never plan to write a book instead the
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suffering they were going through with
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Charles sickness led them to seek out
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written comfort from a variety of
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sources these writings became the
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streams in the desert devotion after
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many years streams in the desert is
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still a widely read devotional that
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continues to encourage millions of
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readers around the globe as it has been
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translated into every major language
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around the world so if you're trying to
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find your purpose in this life or even
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more importantly just find out who you
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are I give you this simple piece of
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advice that I learned today embrace your
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struggles appreciate your loved ones
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while they are still with you and most
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importantly as Letty would say wait on
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God lean hard on him and listen to
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listen to his voice above all the others
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in this lighter
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[Applause]
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you
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