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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:40,730 sorry for the last-minute notice but the 2 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:44,120 boss wants you to interview a lady by 3 00:00:40,730 --> 00:00:46,279 the name of Letty B Kalman at the 4 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:51,019 address below she will be in the 5 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:53,120 upstairs meeting at the Concord Plaza he 6 00:00:51,020 --> 00:00:55,730 also said you shouldn't be late to your 7 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:58,730 other appointment or it will cost your 8 00:00:55,730 --> 00:01:00,319 job then don't worry when you get back 9 00:00:58,730 --> 00:01:02,629 to the office there's plenty of files 10 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:07,780 that need to be taken care of see you 11 00:01:02,630 --> 00:01:07,780 real soon your pals at the office 12 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:16,110 [Applause] 13 00:01:32,990 --> 00:01:38,550 tired of these games they changed my 14 00:01:36,630 --> 00:01:46,800 interview times they changed my 15 00:01:38,550 --> 00:01:52,370 interviews I'm about to be late to this 16 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:52,370 interview something's gotta change 17 00:02:10,370 --> 00:02:35,710 [Music] 18 00:02:38,290 --> 00:02:49,430 [Music] 19 00:02:47,390 --> 00:03:13,829 [Applause] 20 00:02:49,430 --> 00:03:13,830 [Music] 21 00:03:17,340 --> 00:03:21,919 [Music] 22 00:03:24,920 --> 00:03:47,668 [Music] 23 00:03:51,270 --> 00:04:17,630 [Music] 24 00:04:14,700 --> 00:04:19,829 come here 25 00:04:17,630 --> 00:04:27,610 [Music] 26 00:04:19,829 --> 00:04:36,400 yes yes energy very good to know you 27 00:04:27,610 --> 00:04:38,500 David you so sorry that I'm late 28 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:40,690 but it just seems the person that gave 29 00:04:38,500 --> 00:04:43,930 me the details for this interview kind 30 00:04:40,690 --> 00:04:46,360 of waited to the last minute that's all 31 00:04:43,930 --> 00:04:48,940 right I haven't been here very long and 32 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:51,460 I have a good story to tell so we're 33 00:04:48,940 --> 00:04:54,449 good thank you for I understand it share 34 00:04:51,460 --> 00:04:54,448 let me just 35 00:05:06,370 --> 00:05:17,240 okay how long have you been with the 36 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:20,810 paper David just about a year now 37 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:24,440 oh do you like it I do I really do I 38 00:05:20,810 --> 00:05:27,220 enjoy the work but the work environment 39 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:29,600 can sometimes be very challenging oh 40 00:05:27,220 --> 00:05:32,090 well I imagine working in a big 41 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:36,230 newspaper that you would meet all kinds 42 00:05:32,090 --> 00:05:40,039 of different characters that's the truth 43 00:05:36,230 --> 00:05:42,200 well I have some specific questions here 44 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:45,560 but I like to get to know someone flying 45 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:48,590 to do them so if you give me a little 46 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:52,070 background on yourself lady how did you 47 00:05:48,590 --> 00:05:56,500 come into missionary work missionary 48 00:05:52,070 --> 00:05:59,840 work it all began with my husband 49 00:05:56,500 --> 00:06:02,900 Charles and I were both raised in Iowa I 50 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:06,200 was born there in 1870 in the town of 51 00:06:02,900 --> 00:06:09,950 Theatre Charles was born in Illinois in 52 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:11,719 1868 and he and his family moved to Iowa 53 00:06:09,950 --> 00:06:14,030 when he was just 2 years old 54 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:17,510 their home was near the wood burn 55 00:06:14,030 --> 00:06:21,349 settlement about 20 miles 56 00:06:17,510 --> 00:06:25,590 Iowa was a beautiful place covered in 57 00:06:21,350 --> 00:06:28,590 wildflowers tall prairie grass and 58 00:06:25,590 --> 00:06:31,710 picturesque farms it was a wonderful 59 00:06:28,590 --> 00:06:33,479 place to grow up Charles and I didn't 60 00:06:31,710 --> 00:06:35,849 become acquainted until later in our 61 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:38,110 childhoods we had very different 62 00:06:35,850 --> 00:06:40,960 upbringings 63 00:06:38,110 --> 00:06:43,420 my father was quite prominent man and we 64 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:46,510 enjoyed many luxuries due to his success 65 00:06:43,420 --> 00:06:49,330 in the banking industry we surrounded 66 00:06:46,510 --> 00:06:51,250 ourselves with music culture and art and 67 00:06:49,330 --> 00:06:54,340 I greatly enjoyed learning to play the 68 00:06:51,250 --> 00:06:56,190 piano I wanted for nothing as a child 69 00:06:54,340 --> 00:06:57,880 and though my parents were good 70 00:06:56,190 --> 00:07:01,540 hospitable people 71 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:03,700 I don't recall then ever mentioning God 72 00:07:01,540 --> 00:07:05,560 Charles was brought up in a Christian 73 00:07:03,700 --> 00:07:08,560 home where daily Bible readings were 74 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:10,630 common his family faithfully attended 75 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:14,050 church and they also enjoyed nature 76 00:07:10,630 --> 00:07:16,120 walks and storytelling Charles was 77 00:07:14,050 --> 00:07:18,940 raised to be studious and to never go 78 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:22,990 into debt these are two bad news he 79 00:07:18,940 --> 00:07:26,710 honored his entire life in the summer of 80 00:07:22,990 --> 00:07:28,840 1883 Charles at the age of 15 became 81 00:07:26,710 --> 00:07:30,580 interested in two-leg Rafi 82 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:33,190 and through a number of circumstances 83 00:07:30,580 --> 00:07:35,710 and despite much reservation from his 84 00:07:33,190 --> 00:07:37,360 parents because of his young age he was 85 00:07:35,710 --> 00:07:41,260 permitted to go to work at a railway 86 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:45,070 station several miles from his home this 87 00:07:41,260 --> 00:07:47,800 in turn brought him to a village just a 88 00:07:45,070 --> 00:07:49,630 short distance from our home one day 89 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:52,270 while in the village my mother took 90 00:07:49,630 --> 00:07:54,520 notice of Charles she thought the young 91 00:07:52,270 --> 00:07:57,549 man seemed lonely and invited him to our 92 00:07:54,520 --> 00:08:00,820 home for dinner she felt he needed some 93 00:07:57,550 --> 00:08:04,080 tending to she referred to it as 94 00:08:00,820 --> 00:08:06,370 smothering soon after our first meeting 95 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,590 Charles began to walk me home from 96 00:08:06,370 --> 00:08:11,680 school and my mother would often ask him 97 00:08:08,590 --> 00:08:14,260 to remain with us for tea our families 98 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:16,270 became great friends and as we did it 99 00:08:14,260 --> 00:08:19,219 was only natural that my friendship with 100 00:08:16,270 --> 00:08:22,280 Charles grew into more 101 00:08:19,220 --> 00:08:24,610 early on we were quite smitten with one 102 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,609 another 103 00:08:24,700 --> 00:08:29,479 Charles was continually promoted in his 104 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:32,630 work which required him to move to other 105 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:36,560 stations including Chicago and later to 106 00:08:32,630 --> 00:08:39,580 Colorado but in the summer of 1889 107 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:44,869 Charles returned for my hand in marriage 108 00:08:39,580 --> 00:08:47,090 he was 21 and I was 19 he did very well 109 00:08:44,870 --> 00:08:50,470 in telegraphy profession and made a 110 00:08:47,090 --> 00:08:53,300 comfortable life for us unfortunately 111 00:08:50,470 --> 00:08:56,990 his relationship with God by this time 112 00:08:53,300 --> 00:09:00,410 had become distant work and home became 113 00:08:56,990 --> 00:09:04,130 his focus he took great joy in providing 114 00:09:00,410 --> 00:09:06,949 us many lectures these luxuries would 115 00:09:04,130 --> 00:09:09,380 keep us both distracted but it would not 116 00:09:06,950 --> 00:09:12,720 be long before our cozy little home 117 00:09:09,380 --> 00:09:16,050 would be shaken by the love of God 118 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:20,340 it was in the winter of 1893 when I met 119 00:09:16,050 --> 00:09:24,060 the Lord at an altar on my knees at a 120 00:09:20,340 --> 00:09:27,450 children's service my life was changed 121 00:09:24,060 --> 00:09:28,079 forever to my great delight a month 122 00:09:27,450 --> 00:09:30,390 later 123 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,610 Charles was reunited with the Lord and 124 00:09:30,390 --> 00:09:36,810 both our lives to the completely new 125 00:09:32,610 --> 00:09:39,930 direction we instantly became involved 126 00:09:36,810 --> 00:09:42,329 in church and Charles faithfully 127 00:09:39,930 --> 00:09:46,949 introduced many of his co-workers to the 128 00:09:42,330 --> 00:09:49,110 Lord among them was Ernest Kilbourne who 129 00:09:46,950 --> 00:09:52,580 had become a dear friend and faithful 130 00:09:49,110 --> 00:09:56,160 partner in the mission work to come 131 00:09:52,580 --> 00:09:58,500 eventually this large group of dedicated 132 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:01,380 telegraphers would become known as the 133 00:09:58,500 --> 00:10:04,580 telegraphers band and would later 134 00:10:01,380 --> 00:10:08,820 provide much support to mission fields 135 00:10:04,580 --> 00:10:11,850 in 1894 Charles and I attended a 136 00:10:08,820 --> 00:10:13,830 missionary convention there we heard 137 00:10:11,850 --> 00:10:15,990 stories about missionaries in foreign 138 00:10:13,830 --> 00:10:19,380 countries who continually trusted God 139 00:10:15,990 --> 00:10:23,950 for their needs we were instantly moved 140 00:10:19,380 --> 00:10:27,639 by God and we both felt we too 141 00:10:23,950 --> 00:10:30,220 would be called to mission work later 142 00:10:27,639 --> 00:10:30,980 Japan would come to the our mission 143 00:10:30,220 --> 00:10:36,799 field 144 00:10:30,980 --> 00:10:36,799 [Music] 145 00:10:38,290 --> 00:10:43,310 David you seem to be distracted is 146 00:10:41,990 --> 00:10:47,120 everything okay 147 00:10:43,310 --> 00:10:50,149 it is I'm just thinking about something 148 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:52,730 you said earlier oh if I need to repeat 149 00:10:50,149 --> 00:10:55,310 something let me know I'm not referring 150 00:10:52,730 --> 00:10:57,199 to your story but it was a comment that 151 00:10:55,310 --> 00:11:02,349 you made earlier about different 152 00:10:57,199 --> 00:11:05,269 characters at the workplace and I 153 00:11:02,350 --> 00:11:08,060 realize my colleagues didn't want me 154 00:11:05,269 --> 00:11:10,550 working the paper at all if it was left 155 00:11:08,060 --> 00:11:14,569 up to them I wouldn't be a reporter at 156 00:11:10,550 --> 00:11:18,560 all I may have misspoke when I mentioned 157 00:11:14,570 --> 00:11:21,889 it character at the newspaper office it 158 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:25,540 seems like to me David that the only one 159 00:11:21,889 --> 00:11:29,180 with character there at all would be you 160 00:11:25,540 --> 00:11:33,349 thank you lady but I see my position at 161 00:11:29,180 --> 00:11:39,019 the paper as more it's a responsibility 162 00:11:33,350 --> 00:11:42,470 or calling more than a job but I try and 163 00:11:39,019 --> 00:11:44,600 my motivation is to continue rather than 164 00:11:42,470 --> 00:11:48,620 falling for the childish behavior that 165 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:51,199 my colleagues have well I commend you 166 00:11:48,620 --> 00:11:52,940 for that David I think that's what we're 167 00:11:51,199 --> 00:11:55,510 supposed to do when we feel like we're 168 00:11:52,940 --> 00:11:58,459 doing what the Lord wants us to do and 169 00:11:55,510 --> 00:12:00,439 that reminds me of how the Lord used 170 00:11:58,459 --> 00:12:04,089 Charles and I when we were doing 171 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,089 missionary at work in Japan 172 00:12:05,930 --> 00:12:14,160 in 1901 we set foot on Japan Charles and 173 00:12:11,460 --> 00:12:16,440 I along with juji Nakata and later 174 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:19,920 Ernest Kilbourne founded what was then 175 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:21,660 known as the Oriental Mission Society we 176 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,500 felt strongly that the natives of the 177 00:12:21,660 --> 00:12:27,360 land should be evangelized and discipled 178 00:12:24,500 --> 00:12:29,810 so that they in turn could evangelize 179 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:32,370 and disciple their own people 180 00:12:29,810 --> 00:12:35,609 Charles and the others founded the Bible 181 00:12:32,370 --> 00:12:38,700 Institute they're locals have come and 182 00:12:35,610 --> 00:12:40,770 listen to the Word of God daily many 183 00:12:38,700 --> 00:12:44,610 people gave their lives to the Lord and 184 00:12:40,770 --> 00:12:48,150 furthered our reach in Japan the central 185 00:12:44,610 --> 00:12:53,070 purpose of first Timothy is found in 186 00:12:48,150 --> 00:12:54,900 chapter 3 verse 15 I write so that you 187 00:12:53,070 --> 00:12:57,420 may know you ought to conduct yourself 188 00:12:54,900 --> 00:13:00,180 in the house of God which is the Church 189 00:12:57,420 --> 00:13:01,530 of the Living God the pillar and ground 190 00:13:00,180 --> 00:13:04,260 of the truth 191 00:13:01,530 --> 00:13:08,130 the church is God's primary vehicle for 192 00:13:04,260 --> 00:13:11,010 accomplishing his work on earth the Lord 193 00:13:08,130 --> 00:13:13,590 has ordained that men and women who have 194 00:13:11,010 --> 00:13:15,900 trusted him as Savior should be involved 195 00:13:13,590 --> 00:13:19,590 in working out his will in local 196 00:13:15,900 --> 00:13:21,480 assemblies around the world Paul wrote 197 00:13:19,590 --> 00:13:24,060 first Timothy in order to instruct his 198 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:27,000 young Protege on how the church should 199 00:13:24,060 --> 00:13:30,119 function and how mature men and women of 200 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,950 God should interact in it specifics are 201 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:34,230 given on developing and recognizing 202 00:13:31,950 --> 00:13:37,890 godly leadership and avoiding false 203 00:13:34,230 --> 00:13:39,960 doctrine in the church Paul insists that 204 00:13:37,890 --> 00:13:42,150 Christian maturity should be expected in 205 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:45,690 leadership while it is being developed 206 00:13:42,150 --> 00:13:48,209 in the lives of all believers Paul 207 00:13:45,690 --> 00:13:51,150 offers Timothy a whole list of extremely 208 00:13:48,210 --> 00:13:53,220 practical advice for leading a church as 209 00:13:51,150 --> 00:13:56,430 he faced the problems and hardships of 210 00:13:53,220 --> 00:13:58,890 ministry in a local church Timothy must 211 00:13:56,430 --> 00:14:04,979 have repeatedly read Paul's letter for 212 00:13:58,890 --> 00:14:06,720 the valuable insights it offers Paul an 213 00:14:04,980 --> 00:14:09,210 apostle of Jesus Christ by the 214 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:13,260 commandment of God our Savior and the 215 00:14:09,210 --> 00:14:17,370 Lord Jesus Christ our hope to Timothy a 216 00:14:13,260 --> 00:14:19,740 true son in faith grace mercy and peace 217 00:14:17,370 --> 00:14:20,930 from God our Father in Jesus Christ our 218 00:14:19,740 --> 00:14:24,750 Lord 219 00:14:20,930 --> 00:14:26,930 there shall be no other doctrine as I 220 00:14:24,750 --> 00:14:30,300 urged you when I went into Macedonia 221 00:14:26,930 --> 00:14:34,410 remain in a thesis that you may charge 222 00:14:30,300 --> 00:14:37,079 some that they teach no other doctrine 223 00:14:34,410 --> 00:14:40,319 nor give heed to fables and endless 224 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:43,600 genealogies which cause disputes rather 225 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:46,030 than godly edification which is in faith 226 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:49,570 now the purpose of the commandment is 227 00:14:46,030 --> 00:14:53,260 love from a pure heart from a good 228 00:14:49,570 --> 00:14:55,930 conscience and from sincere faith from 229 00:14:53,260 --> 00:14:58,810 which some having strayed have turned 230 00:14:55,930 --> 00:15:00,939 aside to idle talk desiring to be 231 00:14:58,810 --> 00:15:03,819 teachers of the law understanding 232 00:15:00,940 --> 00:15:06,750 neither what they say nor the things 233 00:15:03,820 --> 00:15:06,750 which they affirm 234 00:15:06,870 --> 00:15:15,900 sadly however at the end of the year of 235 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:18,760 1917 a drastic change would come for us 236 00:15:15,900 --> 00:15:21,579 Charles constant work and lack of sleep 237 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:25,030 began to catch up with him he was 238 00:15:21,580 --> 00:15:29,430 severely worn out the next several years 239 00:15:25,030 --> 00:15:31,890 would prove to be extremely hard for us 240 00:15:29,430 --> 00:15:36,750 it was then we would have to face our 241 00:15:31,890 --> 00:15:40,590 own generality through many many dark 242 00:15:36,750 --> 00:15:43,930 days and long desperate nights we would 243 00:15:40,590 --> 00:15:46,690 come to see God in a whole new life 244 00:15:43,930 --> 00:15:51,150 and we would come to know him in a much 245 00:15:46,690 --> 00:15:51,150 more intimate way than ever before 246 00:16:11,220 --> 00:16:20,779 Charles you okay Charles are you okay 247 00:16:23,710 --> 00:16:26,610 what's the matter 248 00:16:29,250 --> 00:16:34,300 Charles what's wrong 249 00:16:31,790 --> 00:16:34,300 turns 250 00:16:37,170 --> 00:16:47,329 so I back again it's never hurt like 251 00:16:42,870 --> 00:16:47,329 this before okay take a deep breath 252 00:16:48,130 --> 00:16:52,529 I mean are you okay 253 00:16:55,290 --> 00:16:58,160 take a deep breath 254 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,760 Oh Charles I'm gonna I'm gonna go back 255 00:17:03,270 --> 00:17:10,910 to camp and I'm gonna bring the doctor 256 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:10,910 will you be okay here I'll be right back 257 00:17:38,290 --> 00:17:42,860 so Charles thank you for having me over 258 00:17:40,850 --> 00:17:44,949 to your house today first of all would 259 00:17:42,860 --> 00:17:49,669 you like to tell me what's going on well 260 00:17:44,950 --> 00:17:53,480 it's been a tightness in my in my chest 261 00:17:49,670 --> 00:17:56,050 and a shortage of breath mostly today 262 00:17:53,480 --> 00:18:03,770 when we were out in the villages 263 00:17:56,050 --> 00:18:05,629 evangelizing it felt as though the 264 00:18:03,770 --> 00:18:07,700 breath were being taken right from me 265 00:18:05,630 --> 00:18:11,960 and I felt very sharp pains in my back 266 00:18:07,700 --> 00:18:14,920 and shortness of breath almost as though 267 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:18,680 I I couldn't breathe 268 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:21,140 and is that when you called for me yes 269 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:24,380 that's when I had my wife go to you and 270 00:18:21,140 --> 00:18:26,900 I thought perhaps this could be more 271 00:18:24,380 --> 00:18:29,480 serious than than what I thought it has 272 00:18:26,900 --> 00:18:31,070 been well Charles it is a good thing 273 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:34,370 that you called for me and I'll tell you 274 00:18:31,070 --> 00:18:36,679 why I honestly do think that this is 275 00:18:34,370 --> 00:18:38,689 possible your heart have you had any of 276 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:41,720 these pains or this tightness in your 277 00:18:38,690 --> 00:18:48,050 chest before today I've always had a 278 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:49,790 strong heart doctor but I suppose the 279 00:18:48,050 --> 00:18:53,540 pains and the shortness of breath have 280 00:18:49,790 --> 00:18:56,480 been going on for well the last two or 281 00:18:53,540 --> 00:19:03,139 three years I guess that's interesting 282 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:06,650 Charles now what I think you need most 283 00:19:03,140 --> 00:19:10,090 of all is more than likely rest 284 00:19:06,650 --> 00:19:14,390 let me not jump to any conclusions but 285 00:19:10,090 --> 00:19:17,179 you do definitely need rest I need to do 286 00:19:14,390 --> 00:19:19,850 a little more studying on this and I do 287 00:19:17,180 --> 00:19:22,970 want to talk to a few my colleagues if 288 00:19:19,850 --> 00:19:26,480 it is what I think it is you'll probably 289 00:19:22,970 --> 00:19:29,630 need to be on bed rest and probably 290 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:31,280 indefinitely and I honestly think you 291 00:19:29,630 --> 00:19:36,470 probably need to go back to the States 292 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:40,610 for this bed rest no there's too much 293 00:19:36,470 --> 00:19:42,560 work to do here in Japan still perhaps a 294 00:19:40,610 --> 00:19:45,199 couple days of rest but there's too much 295 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:47,149 work to do doctor I understand 296 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,460 and that's why I really don't want to 297 00:19:47,150 --> 00:19:51,530 jump to any conclusions yet let's do 298 00:19:49,460 --> 00:19:54,290 this I'm gonna make an appointment for 299 00:19:51,530 --> 00:20:00,379 you in the next few days and I want you 300 00:19:54,290 --> 00:20:02,930 to come and stop by my office well 301 00:20:00,380 --> 00:20:04,130 Charles I best be going now 302 00:20:02,930 --> 00:20:06,440 but I would like to see you in my office 303 00:20:04,130 --> 00:20:08,630 in a couple of days and by then I should 304 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:11,390 have some of those answers how does that 305 00:20:08,630 --> 00:20:13,450 sound Charles I suppose that's fair 306 00:20:11,390 --> 00:20:13,450 enough 307 00:20:15,980 --> 00:20:42,930 [Music] 308 00:20:55,060 --> 00:21:01,600 [Music] 309 00:20:59,230 --> 00:21:03,460 I don't believe the Lord I'm gonna have 310 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,300 us quit doing the work that we're doing 311 00:21:03,460 --> 00:21:10,530 here 312 00:21:04,300 --> 00:21:10,530 I understand 313 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,410 [Music] 314 00:21:22,460 --> 00:21:29,070 and although I do agree with the doctor 315 00:21:25,890 --> 00:21:31,820 about too much what's required to rest 316 00:21:29,070 --> 00:21:38,149 that my body needs 317 00:21:31,820 --> 00:21:41,529 I won't be led astray will work the Lord 318 00:21:38,149 --> 00:21:41,529 has us doing here in Japan 319 00:21:54,000 --> 00:22:06,470 I believe with you Charles and I want 320 00:22:03,330 --> 00:22:06,470 you to be healed from this 321 00:22:11,690 --> 00:22:14,990 whatever this is 322 00:22:17,529 --> 00:22:23,119 why would the Lord heal so many people 323 00:22:20,179 --> 00:22:29,480 that we work with each and every day did 324 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:34,939 not heal me is he limited in his ability 325 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:37,360 I don't believe so my sweet lady I don't 326 00:22:34,940 --> 00:22:37,360 believe so 327 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:56,668 [Music] 328 00:22:54,049 --> 00:22:58,529 Charles is bothered by the idea that he 329 00:22:56,669 --> 00:23:01,200 might have to go back to the States 330 00:22:58,529 --> 00:23:08,159 after 16 years of dedicated service to 331 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:10,649 the Lord in Japan this is the time that 332 00:23:08,159 --> 00:23:12,750 Charlie began to isolate himself in 333 00:23:10,649 --> 00:23:21,539 prayer for hours at a time in order to 334 00:23:12,750 --> 00:23:24,779 hear from God Charles did not know how 335 00:23:21,539 --> 00:23:28,210 sick he was at the time but he wanted 336 00:23:24,779 --> 00:23:30,249 God's voice to lead him 337 00:23:28,210 --> 00:23:32,350 he would write down whatever he heard 338 00:23:30,249 --> 00:23:33,730 the Lord speak to him so as to be sure 339 00:23:32,350 --> 00:23:36,230 of his direction 340 00:23:33,730 --> 00:23:38,970 [Music] 341 00:23:36,230 --> 00:23:41,759 Charles was a servant to the Lord and he 342 00:23:38,970 --> 00:23:43,740 knew that in the hard times he was to 343 00:23:41,759 --> 00:23:46,150 lean hard on the Lord's direction 344 00:23:43,740 --> 00:23:50,739 instead of choosing his own way 345 00:23:46,150 --> 00:23:50,739 [Music] 346 00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:02,889 I admired this about Charles it was a 347 00:24:00,490 --> 00:24:05,740 grace given to him to do what the Lord 348 00:24:02,890 --> 00:24:11,310 had called him to do 349 00:24:05,740 --> 00:24:14,100 [Music] 350 00:24:11,310 --> 00:24:16,190 at this point in life trusting God was 351 00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:19,260 an everyday occurrence for Charles and I 352 00:24:16,190 --> 00:24:24,990 as we were at the helm of the missions 353 00:24:19,260 --> 00:24:28,160 work God had for us to do for most of us 354 00:24:24,990 --> 00:24:32,700 we all returned to God in our hard times 355 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:34,740 and because of this we miss hearing 356 00:24:32,700 --> 00:24:40,560 God's voice because we're not familiar 357 00:24:34,740 --> 00:24:42,780 with it unfortunately we know our voice 358 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:46,490 and the voice of the others around us 359 00:24:42,780 --> 00:24:49,230 better than the Holy Spirit's voice and 360 00:24:46,490 --> 00:24:54,030 because of this we often pray our 361 00:24:49,230 --> 00:24:57,950 desires get me out of this help me with 362 00:24:54,030 --> 00:24:57,950 this help me with that 363 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:07,409 it seems listening is a lost art in 364 00:25:02,490 --> 00:25:09,960 today's world Charles never did lose 365 00:25:07,409 --> 00:25:14,309 sight of what was most important and 366 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:17,809 that is God's voice in the midst of his 367 00:25:14,309 --> 00:25:20,039 trial he waited upon the Lord 368 00:25:17,809 --> 00:25:22,950 but although listening 369 00:25:20,039 --> 00:25:27,150 I believe Charles did not want to hear 370 00:25:22,950 --> 00:25:29,490 that he was seriously ill God used the 371 00:25:27,150 --> 00:25:31,560 doctors words to confirm what he was 372 00:25:29,490 --> 00:25:38,319 telling him in prayer 373 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:38,319 [Music] 374 00:25:43,090 --> 00:25:50,029 hello Charles good morning doctor how 375 00:25:45,740 --> 00:25:54,230 are you well Charles I have some really 376 00:25:50,029 --> 00:25:57,289 tough news for you it most definitely is 377 00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:58,779 your heart and I'm really sorry about 378 00:25:57,289 --> 00:26:01,480 that 379 00:25:58,779 --> 00:26:05,419 your condition has really progressed and 380 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:07,210 as I suspected before you're going to 381 00:26:05,419 --> 00:26:09,409 need a lot of rest 382 00:26:07,210 --> 00:26:11,750 fortunately Charles as you can see 383 00:26:09,409 --> 00:26:13,100 sitting here in my office today your 384 00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:14,570 condition hasn't progressed to the point 385 00:26:13,100 --> 00:26:16,189 where it can't be helped 386 00:26:14,570 --> 00:26:19,580 like I mentioned in our previous 387 00:26:16,190 --> 00:26:22,789 conversation Charles you have a serious 388 00:26:19,580 --> 00:26:26,750 condition and it will only worsen if you 389 00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:29,360 don't get any rest it only worsen if you 390 00:26:26,750 --> 00:26:31,639 don't take care of your body how much 391 00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:34,639 rest do you suggest doctor a week 392 00:26:31,639 --> 00:26:35,149 perhaps two I'm sorry to tell you 393 00:26:34,639 --> 00:26:38,928 Charles 394 00:26:35,149 --> 00:26:41,658 but this is my recommendation that you 395 00:26:38,929 --> 00:26:44,679 need to return immediately to the States 396 00:26:41,659 --> 00:26:51,590 and you need to be on bed rest 397 00:26:44,679 --> 00:26:53,649 indefinitely doctor I died how can that 398 00:26:51,590 --> 00:26:53,649 be 399 00:26:54,550 --> 00:26:59,870 indefinite bedrest that's correct 400 00:26:57,350 --> 00:27:03,980 Charles I'm not going to say that you 401 00:26:59,870 --> 00:27:05,929 will die tomorrow but if you don't start 402 00:27:03,980 --> 00:27:07,840 taking immediate rest you will 403 00:27:05,930 --> 00:27:10,790 definitely suffer the consequences I 404 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,679 know that your heart is here with the 405 00:27:10,790 --> 00:27:14,990 Japanese people and that you have helped 406 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,790 a lot of people already but in my 407 00:27:14,990 --> 00:27:23,680 opinion I think it is time for you to 408 00:27:16,790 --> 00:27:28,000 start focusing on helping yourself and 409 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,000 for that I am truly sorry Charles 410 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:36,429 [Music] 411 00:27:33,180 --> 00:27:38,130 so as the Lord led us we followed him to 412 00:27:36,430 --> 00:27:40,990 Hollywood California 413 00:27:38,130 --> 00:27:43,559 where a good friend of ours allowed us 414 00:27:40,990 --> 00:27:45,970 to live in a house that he owned there 415 00:27:43,559 --> 00:27:47,770 of course this was a real blessing 416 00:27:45,970 --> 00:27:49,240 because we needed to get back in the 417 00:27:47,770 --> 00:27:53,110 states so that we could get the best 418 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:56,200 medical attention for Charles how did 419 00:27:53,110 --> 00:27:59,169 Charles handle not being able to be part 420 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:01,120 of the ministry anymore oh no Charles 421 00:27:59,170 --> 00:28:03,130 was willing to come to the States 422 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:05,379 but he was not willing to do what the 423 00:28:03,130 --> 00:28:08,980 doctors told him to do and that was to 424 00:28:05,380 --> 00:28:11,530 take it easy no sir he continued to go 425 00:28:08,980 --> 00:28:14,520 to churches continuing to raise support 426 00:28:11,530 --> 00:28:17,350 for the mission work in Japan 427 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:19,480 sounds like Charles had a very 428 00:28:17,350 --> 00:28:23,010 determined so when it came to doing the 429 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:26,050 mission work in Japan oh yes 430 00:28:23,010 --> 00:28:29,500 Charles had initiated at the great 431 00:28:26,050 --> 00:28:31,840 village campaign where our ministry 432 00:28:29,500 --> 00:28:34,570 would go to every person in Japan and 433 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:37,120 share the gospel with them of course 434 00:28:34,570 --> 00:28:38,980 when we had to return home Charles was 435 00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:42,820 not able to witness the completion of 436 00:28:38,980 --> 00:28:47,050 this campaign every person in Japan that 437 00:28:42,820 --> 00:28:50,110 is an amazing joy was it ever completed 438 00:28:47,050 --> 00:28:51,879 as a matter of fact we received word of 439 00:28:50,110 --> 00:28:56,260 the completion of the campaign in 440 00:28:51,880 --> 00:29:00,700 January 1918 that was just four months 441 00:28:56,260 --> 00:29:02,140 after we returned to California so how 442 00:29:00,700 --> 00:29:06,730 many people were reached in that 443 00:29:02,140 --> 00:29:08,440 campaign over 60 million amazing 444 00:29:06,730 --> 00:29:10,540 so Charles must have been so proud that 445 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:13,809 the work he started so long ago is 446 00:29:10,540 --> 00:29:16,690 finally complete proud yes 447 00:29:13,809 --> 00:29:19,420 but Charles was a missionary warrior as 448 00:29:16,690 --> 00:29:22,450 a soul winner he did not become 449 00:29:19,420 --> 00:29:25,360 complacent when it came to introducing 450 00:29:22,450 --> 00:29:28,450 the Lord to those who had never met him 451 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:30,010 China became Charles focus and he would 452 00:29:28,450 --> 00:29:56,670 talk about it often 453 00:29:30,010 --> 00:29:56,670 [Music] 454 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:04,870 Charles 455 00:30:00,380 --> 00:30:09,529 what is that Letty have you considered 456 00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:13,629 when we go into China starting the 457 00:30:09,529 --> 00:30:16,309 church from the center of China and 458 00:30:13,630 --> 00:30:18,610 branching out from there like the early 459 00:30:16,309 --> 00:30:20,629 church did from Jerusalem 460 00:30:18,610 --> 00:30:25,959 you know Letty I hadn't thought about 461 00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:29,809 that that doesn't sound like a bad idea 462 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,740 and of course as the Lord leads us we 463 00:30:29,809 --> 00:30:33,529 will follow 464 00:30:30,740 --> 00:30:36,649 of course Charles we will will be led by 465 00:30:33,529 --> 00:30:38,950 the Lord like we always have been then 466 00:30:36,649 --> 00:30:42,649 we'll know that we're being led properly 467 00:30:38,950 --> 00:30:44,990 that we won't be led astray I'm sure 468 00:30:42,649 --> 00:30:49,250 that work in China will be a greater 469 00:30:44,990 --> 00:30:51,649 work than we can even imagine I believe 470 00:30:49,250 --> 00:30:54,139 that too Charlie I the Lord has placed 471 00:30:51,649 --> 00:30:55,789 this on my heart as well you know Lettie 472 00:30:54,139 --> 00:30:57,439 I hadn't had a chance to share this with 473 00:30:55,789 --> 00:31:00,820 you yet but the Lord has placed upon my 474 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:03,080 heart a message to get to the ministries 475 00:31:00,820 --> 00:31:05,809 so that we may be able to go out and 476 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,879 raise the money necessary to continue 477 00:31:05,809 --> 00:31:09,710 the missions in Japan well that sounds 478 00:31:07,879 --> 00:31:13,070 wonderful Charles would you share it 479 00:31:09,710 --> 00:31:15,750 with me it's quite clear the Lord has 480 00:31:13,070 --> 00:31:18,240 given me this scripture 481 00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:20,370 to help fulfill the mission of the 482 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:23,700 church on this earth so that his works 483 00:31:20,370 --> 00:31:26,070 may be able to be accomplished just in 484 00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:27,059 the way that Paul gave Timothy a letter 485 00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:30,090 to guide him 486 00:31:27,059 --> 00:31:33,000 as a young man leading the church so too 487 00:31:30,090 --> 00:31:35,449 must we give the missions and the 488 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,799 missionaries instruction and provision 489 00:31:35,450 --> 00:31:44,280 so that the will of the Lord may be 490 00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:47,100 fulfilled here on earth in 1904 thirteen 491 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:50,309 years before we came home Charles was in 492 00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:52,860 America raising funds for the missions 493 00:31:50,309 --> 00:31:56,520 in Japan when he was approached by three 494 00:31:52,860 --> 00:31:59,939 Korean nationals he had attended our 495 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:03,210 Tokyo Bible Training Institute years 496 00:31:59,940 --> 00:32:06,809 later God would lead Charles to start an 497 00:32:03,210 --> 00:32:10,049 Institute in Korea to evangelize and 498 00:32:06,809 --> 00:32:13,289 train the locals so it wasn't just in 499 00:32:10,049 --> 00:32:15,570 Japan that you were there no I remember 500 00:32:13,289 --> 00:32:19,289 when the Lord spoke to Charles about 501 00:32:15,570 --> 00:32:22,049 China because on that very day in a 502 00:32:19,289 --> 00:32:26,669 separate location God had spoken to 503 00:32:22,049 --> 00:32:29,370 Ernest Kilbourne about China as well God 504 00:32:26,669 --> 00:32:32,669 started sharing his vision with both of 505 00:32:29,370 --> 00:32:37,530 them in about the very same time yes 506 00:32:32,669 --> 00:32:40,380 interesting Charles would study China 507 00:32:37,530 --> 00:32:44,610 day and night and would keep in touch 508 00:32:40,380 --> 00:32:48,409 with Ernest very often by letter about 509 00:32:44,610 --> 00:32:48,408 the work that was to be done in China 510 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:58,570 dear Charles we do hope that you are 511 00:32:54,680 --> 00:33:02,430 finding time to rest my friend 512 00:32:58,570 --> 00:33:05,530 the work here continues to go forward 513 00:33:02,430 --> 00:33:11,340 the Lord has given us his enduring 514 00:33:05,530 --> 00:33:15,340 strength the men are fiercely working 515 00:33:11,340 --> 00:33:18,889 from dusk till dawn to complete the 516 00:33:15,340 --> 00:33:21,379 great village campaign 517 00:33:18,890 --> 00:33:24,679 I must tell you 518 00:33:21,380 --> 00:33:27,050 but I have come under my own burden as 519 00:33:24,679 --> 00:33:32,510 well 520 00:33:27,050 --> 00:33:36,360 and I will be sailing home soon my dear 521 00:33:32,510 --> 00:33:39,540 wife is also enduring 522 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:43,419 extreme exhaustion 523 00:33:39,540 --> 00:33:48,250 it should not be long before we will see 524 00:33:43,420 --> 00:33:51,010 you in California I write so that you 525 00:33:48,250 --> 00:33:55,380 will not be too surprised of our 526 00:33:51,010 --> 00:33:55,379 presence there with you 527 00:33:56,070 --> 00:34:04,179 juji and the men are full of fervor 528 00:34:00,300 --> 00:34:05,399 however they are also very concerned for 529 00:34:04,180 --> 00:34:09,000 you 530 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:14,830 prayers day and night are being lifted 531 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:18,110 on yours and Letty's behalf I will see 532 00:34:14,830 --> 00:34:21,679 you soon my friend 533 00:34:18,110 --> 00:34:25,910 I know that you will want to speak about 534 00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:28,960 the many affairs here as well as our 535 00:34:25,909 --> 00:34:34,179 future in China 536 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:34,179 sincerely Ernest Kilbourne 537 00:34:37,179 --> 00:34:40,339 [Music] 538 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:52,188 [Music] 539 00:34:54,710 --> 00:35:10,130 [Music] 540 00:35:11,870 --> 00:35:15,980 we could start in hunan 541 00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:27,460 go through 542 00:35:19,750 --> 00:35:31,600 2:13 Lake and work our way to Hong Kong 543 00:35:27,460 --> 00:35:31,600 just some distance to travel 544 00:35:34,859 --> 00:35:40,049 or 545 00:35:36,730 --> 00:35:46,380 perhaps we come around 546 00:35:40,050 --> 00:35:48,310 - Szechuan and work towards the Gulf of 547 00:35:46,380 --> 00:35:52,620 Tom King 548 00:35:48,310 --> 00:35:52,620 and then up to Hong Kong 549 00:35:55,230 --> 00:36:00,729 [Music] 550 00:35:57,029 --> 00:36:01,600 goddess Lord guide us and we will surely 551 00:36:00,729 --> 00:36:04,240 follow 552 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:14,730 [Music] 553 00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:17,680 show us where we need to go but father 554 00:36:14,730 --> 00:36:20,950 wherever you guide us wherever you take 555 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:25,509 us we will follow you follow with our 556 00:36:20,950 --> 00:36:30,250 hearts none of their minds follow you 557 00:36:25,510 --> 00:36:33,220 Lord take us where you want us to take 558 00:36:30,250 --> 00:36:36,360 this ministry we can build the church on 559 00:36:33,220 --> 00:36:39,540 earth so that you can do the work here 560 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,540 through us 561 00:36:40,170 --> 00:36:47,600 guide us and we will follow in the name 562 00:36:44,980 --> 00:36:50,810 of the Lord Jesus Christ amen 563 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,810 [Music] 564 00:36:55,020 --> 00:36:59,670 the mission work is very important to 565 00:36:57,300 --> 00:37:01,710 Charles so when the doctors of 566 00:36:59,670 --> 00:37:06,180 California told him he should be on bed 567 00:37:01,710 --> 00:37:08,640 rest with very little activity he didn't 568 00:37:06,180 --> 00:37:11,970 listen to them you mean he didn't stay 569 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:19,589 in bed much no I mean he didn't stay in 570 00:37:11,970 --> 00:37:20,549 California are you ready to go I'm sorry 571 00:37:19,590 --> 00:37:23,490 for taking so long 572 00:37:20,550 --> 00:37:28,920 ready it's just getting harder sure how 573 00:37:23,490 --> 00:37:31,649 are you feeling well we're willing Lord 574 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,150 willing I'm not gonna stop just crowds 575 00:37:31,650 --> 00:37:36,830 out there waiting to hear what I have to 576 00:37:33,150 --> 00:37:40,350 say and I'm gonna keep preaching to them 577 00:37:36,830 --> 00:37:43,440 and to keep going they have to hear what 578 00:37:40,350 --> 00:37:45,150 I have to say we have to raise that 579 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:48,240 money for the missions in Japan it's 580 00:37:45,150 --> 00:37:49,860 just too important I know you don't 581 00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:54,319 agree with me pushing myself like this 582 00:37:49,860 --> 00:37:54,320 but Lord is keeping me standing 583 00:37:54,980 --> 00:37:57,640 man willing 584 00:38:00,670 --> 00:38:05,769 Charles and I traveled to many different 585 00:38:02,859 --> 00:38:08,078 states together as he would preach to 586 00:38:05,769 --> 00:38:09,549 churches to tell them about the support 587 00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:12,069 that was needed for the missions 588 00:38:09,549 --> 00:38:15,970 overseas so how did Charles his help 589 00:38:12,069 --> 00:38:19,470 hold up to all that traveling for a time 590 00:38:15,970 --> 00:38:21,939 it seemed like his health had recovered 591 00:38:19,470 --> 00:38:24,808 but when traveling from a summer camp 592 00:38:21,940 --> 00:38:28,660 meeting in Ohio to Michigan 593 00:38:24,809 --> 00:38:31,390 he suffered another heart attack and he 594 00:38:28,660 --> 00:38:33,940 had to see a local doctor that told him 595 00:38:31,390 --> 00:38:38,470 to return to California and get some 596 00:38:33,940 --> 00:38:40,690 rest the heart attacks continued and it 597 00:38:38,470 --> 00:38:43,709 was then that terms realized he was 598 00:38:40,690 --> 00:38:49,710 serious with you 599 00:38:43,710 --> 00:38:49,710 [Music] 600 00:38:50,180 --> 00:38:56,569 as it was his heart that was sick 601 00:38:53,950 --> 00:38:59,740 sleeping in his chair became more and 602 00:38:56,569 --> 00:39:04,329 more common he would stay up with pains 603 00:38:59,740 --> 00:39:04,328 some time all night long 604 00:39:09,730 --> 00:39:13,120 often times I would wake up about the 605 00:39:12,670 --> 00:39:16,590 time 606 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,589 Charles was falling asleep 607 00:39:16,710 --> 00:39:21,000 some mornings he would share with me the 608 00:39:19,050 --> 00:39:22,680 encouragement the Lord had given him 609 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:26,000 through the many books he would read 610 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,000 while up so late at night 611 00:39:27,180 --> 00:39:34,359 [Music] 612 00:39:37,070 --> 00:39:43,839 [Music] 613 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:46,030 although I'm dead I would often wake up 614 00:39:43,839 --> 00:39:54,210 to the sound of Charles praying in the 615 00:39:46,030 --> 00:39:54,210 other room father read you 616 00:39:54,810 --> 00:39:57,929 [Music] 617 00:40:03,170 --> 00:40:06,269 whether or not Charles was feeling up to 618 00:40:05,849 --> 00:40:08,939 it 619 00:40:06,269 --> 00:40:10,649 he would faithfully read and respond to 620 00:40:08,939 --> 00:40:18,689 the many letters from missionaries 621 00:40:10,650 --> 00:40:20,759 around the world it seemed as soon as 622 00:40:18,689 --> 00:40:22,589 Charles would read one letter the 623 00:40:20,759 --> 00:40:23,080 postman would bring three more in its 624 00:40:22,589 --> 00:40:29,390 place 625 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:29,390 [Music] 626 00:40:31,290 --> 00:40:37,050 the letters were never lacking in their 627 00:40:34,050 --> 00:40:39,210 attempt to encourage us they would be 628 00:40:37,050 --> 00:40:41,070 filled with scriptures and stories of 629 00:40:39,210 --> 00:40:44,130 how Charles and I were the reason 630 00:40:41,070 --> 00:40:47,690 someone else decided to follow God's 631 00:40:44,130 --> 00:40:47,690 call on their life 632 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:58,060 Charles never stopped appreciating these 633 00:40:55,300 --> 00:41:06,580 letters as they would come in at just 634 00:40:58,060 --> 00:41:08,980 the right time to lift his soul as 635 00:41:06,580 --> 00:41:11,860 Charles health declined we would receive 636 00:41:08,980 --> 00:41:14,380 more letters from around the world we 637 00:41:11,860 --> 00:41:21,280 also received many visitors many of whom 638 00:41:14,380 --> 00:41:24,970 were missionaries themselves some had 639 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:27,370 received training from OMS and others 640 00:41:24,970 --> 00:41:33,060 were themselves leaders in the mission 641 00:41:27,370 --> 00:41:36,370 field there was a common thread 642 00:41:33,060 --> 00:41:38,170 communicated from them all and that was 643 00:41:36,370 --> 00:41:41,170 the hope that God would do a mighty 644 00:41:38,170 --> 00:41:51,610 miracle of healing and raised Charles up 645 00:41:41,170 --> 00:41:54,330 from his deathbed of course I was 646 00:41:51,610 --> 00:41:58,980 content with just having Charles with me 647 00:41:54,330 --> 00:41:58,980 to visit with and to talk to 648 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:07,619 but I never stood in the way of the many 649 00:42:05,070 --> 00:42:09,690 visitors that would spend hours visiting 650 00:42:07,619 --> 00:42:12,390 with him because I knew it was the Lord 651 00:42:09,690 --> 00:42:21,150 bringing the opportunity of ministry to 652 00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:23,520 Charles now David you have to understand 653 00:42:21,150 --> 00:42:26,580 that we were still believing God very 654 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:29,700 strongly that Charles would not be 655 00:42:26,580 --> 00:42:32,759 allowed to die we wanted to see God do a 656 00:42:29,700 --> 00:42:34,618 great miracle in Charles life and a 657 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:37,290 great many people around the world who 658 00:42:34,619 --> 00:42:40,860 had also written us letters they felt 659 00:42:37,290 --> 00:42:43,470 the same way this had to be a very hard 660 00:42:40,860 --> 00:42:47,310 trial for Charles it seems did he doubt 661 00:42:43,470 --> 00:42:51,379 at all that he be healed it was a hard 662 00:42:47,310 --> 00:42:55,200 time but throughout Charles illness I 663 00:42:51,380 --> 00:42:58,260 can only remember one time when he 664 00:42:55,200 --> 00:43:00,480 wavered in his faith Charles put his 665 00:42:58,260 --> 00:43:05,730 trust in the Lord and he proclaimed it 666 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:09,800 daily Lettie what about you you must 667 00:43:05,730 --> 00:43:15,750 have had a hard time do this oh yes I 668 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:17,550 was tested by the situation as well but 669 00:43:15,750 --> 00:43:20,850 as much as I wanted to see Charles 670 00:43:17,550 --> 00:43:24,710 healed the Lord began to share with me 671 00:43:20,850 --> 00:43:28,529 that he would be taken to heaven 672 00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:30,660 although I didn't want to see it over a 673 00:43:28,530 --> 00:43:35,940 long period of time the tug of war 674 00:43:30,660 --> 00:43:38,149 between my wants and God's plan began to 675 00:43:35,940 --> 00:43:38,150 subside 676 00:43:48,110 --> 00:43:53,900 Oh Lenny I need to make a call from my 677 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,370 next interview is it okay if we take a 678 00:43:53,900 --> 00:43:55,820 break real quick so I can make a phone 679 00:43:55,370 --> 00:44:00,620 call 680 00:43:55,820 --> 00:44:06,280 sure no problem okay I'll read a little 681 00:44:00,620 --> 00:44:06,279 further in my streams oh you run attack 682 00:44:07,870 --> 00:44:16,009 job 23:10 he hath acquainted himself 683 00:44:12,620 --> 00:44:20,319 with my beaten path when he has searched 684 00:44:16,010 --> 00:44:20,320 me out I shall come out shining Oh 685 00:44:26,270 --> 00:44:34,060 operator can you transfer me to 686 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,060 transcontinental industry 687 00:44:44,260 --> 00:44:51,790 mr. Gordon David James I'm the reporting 688 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:53,200 as a sign to interview you today I'm 689 00:44:51,790 --> 00:44:55,600 just calling to let you know that our 690 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:58,450 pointment it's still good for 3 o'clock 691 00:44:55,600 --> 00:45:02,440 I will be there and we're still a 692 00:44:58,450 --> 00:45:07,180 girlfriend's afternoon faith grows amid 693 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:09,460 storms just for words but oh how full of 694 00:45:07,180 --> 00:45:13,149 import to the soul who has been in the 695 00:45:09,460 --> 00:45:17,050 storms faith is that god-given faculty 696 00:45:13,150 --> 00:45:18,850 which when exercised brings the unseen 697 00:45:17,050 --> 00:45:22,330 into plain view and by which the 698 00:45:18,850 --> 00:45:26,470 impossible things are made possible it 699 00:45:22,330 --> 00:45:30,730 deals with supernaturals but it grows 700 00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:33,480 amid storms that is where there are 701 00:45:30,730 --> 00:45:36,160 disturbances in the spiritual atmosphere 702 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:39,580 storms are caused by the conflicts of 703 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:41,710 elements and the storms of the spiritual 704 00:45:39,580 --> 00:45:46,029 world are conflicts with hostile 705 00:45:41,710 --> 00:45:49,869 elements in such an atmosphere faith 706 00:45:46,030 --> 00:45:52,540 finds its most productive soil in such 707 00:45:49,869 --> 00:45:56,470 an element becomes more quickly to full 708 00:45:52,540 --> 00:45:59,230 fruition the staunchest tree is not 709 00:45:56,470 --> 00:46:01,000 found in the shelter of the forest but 710 00:45:59,230 --> 00:46:05,380 out in the open where the winds from 711 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:08,230 every quarter beat upon it and bend and 712 00:46:05,380 --> 00:46:11,350 twist it until it becomes a giant in 713 00:46:08,230 --> 00:46:15,040 stature this is the tree which the 714 00:46:11,350 --> 00:46:19,690 mechanic wants his tools made of and the 715 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:22,450 wagon makers ceased so in the spiritual 716 00:46:19,690 --> 00:46:24,190 world when you see a giant remember the 717 00:46:22,450 --> 00:46:27,149 road you must travel to come up to his 718 00:46:24,190 --> 00:46:31,660 side is not along the sunny lane where 719 00:46:27,150 --> 00:46:35,440 wildflowers ever bloom but a steep rocky 720 00:46:31,660 --> 00:46:38,980 narrow pathway where the blasts of hell 721 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:42,310 will almost blow you off your feet where 722 00:46:38,980 --> 00:46:45,000 the sharp rocks cut the flesh where the 723 00:46:42,310 --> 00:46:47,320 projecting thorns scratched the brow and 724 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:52,180 the venomous beasts 725 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:53,349 hiss on every side it's a pathway of 726 00:46:52,180 --> 00:46:58,029 sorrow 727 00:46:53,349 --> 00:47:02,589 Angele of suffering and healing balm of 728 00:46:58,029 --> 00:47:07,930 tears and smiles of trials and victories 729 00:47:02,589 --> 00:47:11,038 of conflicts and triumphs of hardships 730 00:47:07,930 --> 00:47:14,430 and perils and buffetings of 731 00:47:11,039 --> 00:47:18,069 persecutions and misunderstandings of 732 00:47:14,430 --> 00:47:20,319 troubles and distress through all of 733 00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:24,220 which we are made more than conquerors 734 00:47:20,319 --> 00:47:31,349 through him who loves us maybe 15 20 735 00:47:24,220 --> 00:47:31,348 minutes or so okay sure sure 736 00:47:32,700 --> 00:47:36,808 okay that works for you that works for 737 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:40,420 me 738 00:47:36,809 --> 00:47:44,529 that's definitely that we can do yeah 739 00:47:40,420 --> 00:47:47,200 yeah okay all right sounds great 740 00:47:44,529 --> 00:47:49,440 we'll see you through the clock thank 741 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,439 you sir 742 00:47:54,880 --> 00:48:02,570 amid storms right in the midst where it 743 00:47:59,210 --> 00:48:07,490 is fiercest you may shrink back from the 744 00:48:02,570 --> 00:48:10,970 ordeal of a fierce storm of trial but go 745 00:48:07,490 --> 00:48:13,939 in God is there to meet you in the 746 00:48:10,970 --> 00:48:15,799 center of all of your trials and it was 747 00:48:13,940 --> 00:48:18,440 for his secrets which will make you come 748 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:21,710 forth with a shining face and an 749 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:24,260 indomitable faith that all the demons of 750 00:48:21,710 --> 00:48:29,470 Hell shall never afterwards cause to 751 00:48:24,260 --> 00:48:29,470 waiver written by Ernest Kilbourne 752 00:48:41,450 --> 00:48:54,649 I'm sorry for the page when I left you 753 00:48:52,940 --> 00:48:57,950 said you'd be reading from the streams 754 00:48:54,650 --> 00:49:00,740 in the desert devotion my notes say that 755 00:48:57,950 --> 00:49:03,710 that was your first book am i right yes 756 00:49:00,740 --> 00:49:06,169 I was reading from the streams in the 757 00:49:03,710 --> 00:49:08,360 desert and I'd like to say of all the 758 00:49:06,170 --> 00:49:11,270 books that I've written this is the one 759 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:13,070 that the Lord gave me sounds like 760 00:49:11,270 --> 00:49:15,470 there's a lot of history behind that 761 00:49:13,070 --> 00:49:20,210 book can you share me just for the 762 00:49:15,470 --> 00:49:22,490 interview yes David this book is a 763 00:49:20,210 --> 00:49:24,890 compilation of the many encouragement 764 00:49:22,490 --> 00:49:32,029 the Lord gave us during the time Charles 765 00:49:24,890 --> 00:49:35,540 was ill six long years I see through the 766 00:49:32,030 --> 00:49:39,500 process of Charles getting weaker I even 767 00:49:35,540 --> 00:49:43,190 became ill myself the emotional toll was 768 00:49:39,500 --> 00:49:45,800 unbearable on both of us but in God's 769 00:49:43,190 --> 00:49:49,090 faithful character we began to see how 770 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:53,950 he was encouraging us on a daily basis 771 00:49:49,090 --> 00:49:56,020 it was from letters from our friends and 772 00:49:53,950 --> 00:50:00,910 books at times 773 00:49:56,020 --> 00:50:00,910 luckily the Lord never failed us 774 00:50:07,490 --> 00:50:19,019 [Music] 775 00:50:23,690 --> 00:50:31,300 [Music] 776 00:50:46,300 --> 00:50:53,030 [Music] 777 00:51:04,510 --> 00:51:13,369 [Music] 778 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:25,650 [Music] 779 00:51:44,210 --> 00:51:47,409 [Music] 780 00:51:48,509 --> 00:51:56,970 Charles Charles 781 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,570 [Music] 782 00:52:12,380 --> 00:52:20,000 [Music] 783 00:52:28,990 --> 00:52:34,540 many men oh the grandeur of their lives 784 00:52:31,900 --> 00:52:36,580 to their tremendous difficulties this 785 00:52:34,540 --> 00:52:40,840 one looks like a great one we should 786 00:52:36,580 --> 00:52:48,520 read this if you were done fooling 787 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:50,650 around one day as we were walking along 788 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:54,370 the ocean we realized we hadn't received 789 00:52:50,650 --> 00:52:58,180 an encouragement that day but just as we 790 00:52:54,370 --> 00:53:01,150 discussed it a strong gust of wind blew 791 00:52:58,180 --> 00:53:05,410 a gospel tract right at our feet I 792 00:53:01,150 --> 00:53:08,710 picked it up and are ready to loud and 793 00:53:05,410 --> 00:53:12,330 it encouraged us both it was just like 794 00:53:08,710 --> 00:53:15,910 one of the tracks that we used in Japan 795 00:53:12,330 --> 00:53:17,560 that's a good story I have to say that 796 00:53:15,910 --> 00:53:21,129 I've been really encouraged by your 797 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:23,650 stories today it was such a struggle but 798 00:53:21,130 --> 00:53:26,560 the faith you place then got to go 799 00:53:23,650 --> 00:53:30,730 through all that you did that's just 800 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:32,620 incredible the Lord is a great encourage 801 00:53:30,730 --> 00:53:34,780 your David 802 00:53:32,620 --> 00:53:35,430 and that reminds me of another thing the 803 00:53:34,780 --> 00:53:38,790 Lord did 804 00:53:35,430 --> 00:53:38,790 [Music] 805 00:53:41,250 --> 00:53:52,440 [Music] 806 00:53:48,230 --> 00:53:55,070 you know the Lord has done so much work 807 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,070 through our lives 808 00:53:58,190 --> 00:54:02,869 even though we left Japan five years ago 809 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,400 feels just like yesterday 810 00:54:07,500 --> 00:54:12,170 it does feel just like yesterday 811 00:54:10,410 --> 00:54:14,000 [Music] 812 00:54:12,170 --> 00:54:18,400 but all of our pain and our suffering 813 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:18,400 seems to be working in God's plan 814 00:54:19,390 --> 00:54:25,549 the streams in the desert look will be a 815 00:54:22,210 --> 00:54:32,080 great encouragement to other people 816 00:54:25,550 --> 00:54:32,080 [Music] 817 00:54:35,190 --> 00:54:39,510 yes 818 00:54:37,460 --> 00:54:45,099 all of our suffering hasn't been only 819 00:54:39,510 --> 00:54:45,099 [Music] 820 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:52,990 a good friend of ours knew Charles 821 00:54:49,540 --> 00:54:55,119 situation was worsening and from a 822 00:54:52,990 --> 00:54:59,020 gracious heart he gave us a car with the 823 00:54:55,119 --> 00:55:01,150 hopes of making our lives easier you see 824 00:54:59,020 --> 00:55:03,340 he knew Charles and I would often make 825 00:55:01,150 --> 00:55:04,990 our way to use the bookstores and 826 00:55:03,340 --> 00:55:08,560 libraries looking for new written 827 00:55:04,990 --> 00:55:11,140 encouragement the Lord would give us but 828 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:13,299 soon even that would have to come to an 829 00:55:11,140 --> 00:55:15,670 end as Charles could not even make the 830 00:55:13,300 --> 00:55:19,230 short walk to the car any longer 831 00:55:15,670 --> 00:55:19,230 let me I can't make it today 832 00:55:19,850 --> 00:55:24,019 we're almost to the car 833 00:55:21,859 --> 00:55:24,880 can you get there or doing do we need to 834 00:55:24,019 --> 00:55:29,560 go back 835 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:31,470 [Music] 836 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:34,520 we need to go back 837 00:55:31,470 --> 00:55:34,520 [Music] 838 00:55:37,530 --> 00:55:44,420 the car was such a blessing to us and we 839 00:55:41,910 --> 00:55:44,420 can't use it 840 00:55:46,830 --> 00:55:51,110 I want you to take the car and sell it 841 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,850 the missions need the money 842 00:55:55,020 --> 00:55:59,300 you can sell the car and give it to the 843 00:55:56,970 --> 00:55:59,299 missions 844 00:56:00,340 --> 00:56:05,350 mr. Jordan where do you think that 845 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,480 gentleman over there is going through 846 00:56:05,350 --> 00:56:10,770 such a tough time when he's helped so 847 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,770 many people in his life 848 00:56:15,250 --> 00:56:21,700 I don't know Nikki there's some things 849 00:56:18,730 --> 00:56:24,220 that just can't be understood there's no 850 00:56:21,700 --> 00:56:25,680 reason that makes sense why people go 851 00:56:24,220 --> 00:56:27,899 through some of the things that they do 852 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,609 but I can tell you that today is the 853 00:56:27,900 --> 00:56:33,589 first time that I've ever seen him not 854 00:56:29,609 --> 00:56:33,589 smile there must be something going 855 00:56:35,540 --> 00:56:40,550 I suppose but I have a serious game of 856 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:43,210 croquet to get back to I'll see you 857 00:56:40,550 --> 00:56:46,190 later okay bye have fun 858 00:56:43,210 --> 00:56:48,350 it wasn't long before the Lord brought a 859 00:56:46,190 --> 00:56:50,900 buyer and we were able to give the money 860 00:56:48,350 --> 00:56:55,790 to the missionaries overseas that needed 861 00:56:50,900 --> 00:56:59,320 it so desperately and it filled our 862 00:56:55,790 --> 00:56:59,320 hearts to do so 863 00:57:02,460 --> 00:57:07,960 ma'am may I ask why you're selling such 864 00:57:05,020 --> 00:57:09,520 a splendid automobile of course my 865 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,800 husband and I have been missionaries in 866 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:14,470 Japan for the past several years and 867 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:17,830 someone gave us this car is a blessing 868 00:57:14,470 --> 00:57:21,220 however my husband Charles has become 869 00:57:17,830 --> 00:57:24,370 very very ill and we're unable to use 870 00:57:21,220 --> 00:57:26,020 the car now he suggested we sell it the 871 00:57:24,370 --> 00:57:28,930 proceeds from the sale of the car will 872 00:57:26,020 --> 00:57:32,320 be used to meet a need of other 873 00:57:28,930 --> 00:57:34,240 missionaries in Japan thank you for the 874 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:37,390 wonderful opportunity and I do hope your 875 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:39,850 husband is well soon thank you very much 876 00:57:37,390 --> 00:57:42,310 this is the amount we agreed upon thank 877 00:57:39,850 --> 00:57:45,870 you let's go and sign the paperwork and 878 00:57:42,310 --> 00:57:45,870 the automobile will be yours after you 879 00:57:46,650 --> 00:57:52,919 [Music] 880 00:57:55,810 --> 00:58:00,078 [Music] 881 00:58:00,660 --> 00:58:05,769 although Charles being taken by the Lord 882 00:58:03,369 --> 00:58:10,440 was not a new thought in my mind I had 883 00:58:05,769 --> 00:58:10,439 somehow not been preparing myself for it 884 00:58:11,069 --> 00:58:17,230 instead I was hoping and asking the Lord 885 00:58:14,079 --> 00:58:21,300 for his healing and when I did allow the 886 00:58:17,230 --> 00:58:24,330 Lord to speak freely about the situation 887 00:58:21,300 --> 00:58:28,250 my heart would not fully embrace and 888 00:58:24,330 --> 00:58:28,250 accept the reality that was to come 889 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:33,380 [Music] 890 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:35,760 but only because of my wishful thinking 891 00:58:33,380 --> 00:58:38,470 was I not prepared for the inevitable 892 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:42,610 [Music] 893 00:58:38,470 --> 00:58:42,609 the pain was unbearable 894 00:58:42,910 --> 00:58:47,308 [Music] 895 00:58:47,540 --> 00:58:53,310 when Charles took his last breath it was 896 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:57,510 is that the oxygen from both of our 897 00:58:53,310 --> 00:58:59,580 lungs was taken and for the first time 898 00:58:57,510 --> 00:59:05,700 since except in Christ 899 00:58:59,580 --> 00:59:09,930 I was lost my emotions ruled over me as 900 00:59:05,700 --> 00:59:13,259 if I was not in control and this was not 901 00:59:09,930 --> 00:59:22,100 just for a little while I had lost my 902 00:59:13,260 --> 00:59:22,100 charlie my husband my life long friend 903 00:59:24,180 --> 00:59:29,460 [Music] 904 00:59:33,020 --> 00:59:53,960 we were rare lovers that must have been 905 00:59:48,349 --> 00:59:56,330 a hard day yes not only a hard day at 906 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:59,839 the beginning of verse three months of 907 00:59:56,330 --> 01:00:02,150 my life I refuse to see anyone and 908 00:59:59,839 --> 01:00:04,900 comfort was the last thing on my heart 909 01:00:02,150 --> 01:00:08,450 although at the time I would not allow 910 01:00:04,900 --> 01:00:11,750 encouragement I did read a passage from 911 01:00:08,450 --> 01:00:14,270 Charles diary I brought it with me 912 01:00:11,750 --> 01:00:17,080 would you mind if I read it to you for 913 01:00:14,270 --> 01:00:26,780 the story you're writing I don't know 914 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:29,460 okay thank you July 16 1924 I think God 915 01:00:26,780 --> 01:00:32,840 for you I loved one 916 01:00:29,460 --> 01:00:35,660 as for no other gift of his bestowing 917 01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:38,040 you cannot know what you are to me 918 01:00:35,660 --> 01:00:43,109 everything in our lives has done like 919 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:45,060 ten whining of a golden thread you'll 920 01:00:43,110 --> 01:00:46,110 not have anyone after I'm gone but God 921 01:00:45,060 --> 01:00:48,120 dearest 922 01:00:46,110 --> 01:00:52,120 [Music] 923 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:54,480 the Lienhard Grayson comfort will be 924 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,480 given 925 01:00:55,530 --> 01:01:02,070 the work will need your Minister has 926 01:00:57,359 --> 01:01:03,569 never before dedicate yourself to it the 927 01:01:02,070 --> 01:01:07,230 Lord has raised you out to be a witness 928 01:01:03,570 --> 01:01:08,820 to the ends of the earth after a time 929 01:01:07,230 --> 01:01:13,050 you should go out to the Orient and 930 01:01:08,820 --> 01:01:16,080 encourage your brethren do your utmost 931 01:01:13,050 --> 01:01:19,410 for China see to it that the Bible 932 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:22,970 training schools are established just 933 01:01:19,410 --> 01:01:26,810 follow the Lord as he leads step-by-step 934 01:01:22,970 --> 01:01:26,810 his plan one for 935 01:01:28,970 --> 01:01:33,970 I would advise you not to spend too much 936 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,970 time at my grave 937 01:01:36,910 --> 01:01:44,930 I'll not be there you know the Lord will 938 01:01:41,450 --> 01:01:46,370 bring you triumphant me through and 939 01:01:44,930 --> 01:01:48,819 there will be the sweetest reunion in 940 01:01:46,370 --> 01:01:51,109 the Summerland 941 01:01:48,820 --> 01:01:55,820 don't let the song go out of your life 942 01:01:51,110 --> 01:02:01,820 and maybe I too shall hear it and be 943 01:01:55,820 --> 01:02:04,700 glad that's very unfair lady Charles was 944 01:02:01,820 --> 01:02:06,950 a very encouraging person but like I 945 01:02:04,700 --> 01:02:10,279 said I wasn't desiring encouragement at 946 01:02:06,950 --> 01:02:12,140 the time and then the demos a very good 947 01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:15,230 friend of mine and also the nurse who 948 01:02:12,140 --> 01:02:18,250 was by my side all throughout Charles 949 01:02:15,230 --> 01:02:21,250 and my struggles saw me go through this 950 01:02:18,250 --> 01:02:21,250 firsthand 951 01:02:25,470 --> 01:02:35,430 of course on this day I was crushed but 952 01:02:31,859 --> 01:02:38,549 one person was there for me and that is 953 01:02:35,430 --> 01:02:42,189 Lydia demos 954 01:02:38,549 --> 01:02:44,529 our dear nurse Lydia bellows was there 955 01:02:42,189 --> 01:02:46,538 when Charles passed on just as she had 956 01:02:44,529 --> 01:02:53,829 been for many months during his illness 957 01:02:46,539 --> 01:02:56,099 I was grateful for her companionship and 958 01:02:53,829 --> 01:02:56,099 care 959 01:02:57,829 --> 01:03:05,349 the Lord sent her as well as others to 960 01:03:00,679 --> 01:03:05,349 be a source of his strength and care 961 01:03:05,350 --> 01:03:13,038 [Music] 962 01:03:07,589 --> 01:03:13,038 Lydia was and is special 963 01:03:14,700 --> 01:03:21,660 her quiet way of giving has been a 964 01:03:17,550 --> 01:03:26,510 tremendous blessing to me after 30 years 965 01:03:21,660 --> 01:03:31,740 she still takes care of me to this day 966 01:03:26,510 --> 01:03:35,530 my soul was not able to be encouraged 967 01:03:31,740 --> 01:03:40,089 the Lord had a hard time cheering me up 968 01:03:35,530 --> 01:03:43,280 [Music] 969 01:03:40,090 --> 01:03:46,190 wait what do you mean the Lord had a 970 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:48,230 hard time cheering you up I know you're 971 01:03:46,190 --> 01:03:52,790 a Christian so why would the Lord have a 972 01:03:48,230 --> 01:03:55,970 hard time cheering you up well it's just 973 01:03:52,790 --> 01:03:58,070 like I said the Lord couldn't cheer me 974 01:03:55,970 --> 01:04:01,399 up because I was refusing to be 975 01:03:58,070 --> 01:04:03,530 encouraged I knew where Charles was and 976 01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:08,530 I was very glad for him to be with the 977 01:04:03,530 --> 01:04:11,270 Lord but in my loss I felt abandoned I 978 01:04:08,530 --> 01:04:14,590 knew the truth that the Lord was with me 979 01:04:11,270 --> 01:04:17,530 and I was willing to let him gift me up 980 01:04:14,590 --> 01:04:21,860 but not just yet 981 01:04:17,530 --> 01:04:23,690 looking back now I appreciate the Lord 982 01:04:21,860 --> 01:04:26,810 just letting me be me 983 01:04:23,690 --> 01:04:31,340 he let me take all the time I needed to 984 01:04:26,810 --> 01:04:37,630 be encouraged because after all I had 985 01:04:31,340 --> 01:04:40,610 just lost the love of my life oh I see 986 01:04:37,630 --> 01:04:45,230 you encouraged but just on your own 987 01:04:40,610 --> 01:04:48,170 terms that's the beauty of humanity God 988 01:04:45,230 --> 01:04:51,020 created us to operate with our free will 989 01:04:48,170 --> 01:04:55,850 God is so gentle with us and our hard 990 01:04:51,020 --> 01:04:58,970 times he's a great healer and a very 991 01:04:55,850 --> 01:05:01,069 good friend and that's why I believe 992 01:04:58,970 --> 01:05:05,770 streams in the desert is a great 993 01:05:01,070 --> 01:05:05,770 encourage er for anyone who reads it 994 01:05:05,810 --> 01:05:12,430 the streams in the desert book is a 995 01:05:09,350 --> 01:05:16,520 compilation of many different writers 996 01:05:12,430 --> 01:05:22,640 one that I particularly remember is July 997 01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:29,960 19th the cup which my father have given 998 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:32,480 me shall I not drink it John 1811 this 999 01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:35,170 was a greater thing to say and do than 1000 01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:38,030 to calm the seas or raise the dead 1001 01:05:35,170 --> 01:05:41,450 prophets and apostles could work wonders 1002 01:05:38,030 --> 01:05:44,390 miracles but they could not always do 1003 01:05:41,450 --> 01:05:46,549 and suffer the will of God to do and 1004 01:05:44,390 --> 01:05:50,600 suffer God's will is still the highest 1005 01:05:46,550 --> 01:05:53,590 form of faith the most sublime Christian 1006 01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:55,910 achievement to have the bright 1007 01:05:53,590 --> 01:05:59,960 aspirations of a young life forever 1008 01:05:55,910 --> 01:06:03,920 blasted to bear a daily bird never 1009 01:05:59,960 --> 01:06:06,350 congenial and to see no relief to be 1010 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:08,930 pinched by poverty when you only desire 1011 01:06:06,350 --> 01:06:12,560 a competency for the good and comfort of 1012 01:06:08,930 --> 01:06:16,549 loved ones to be fettered by some 1013 01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:19,100 incurable physical disability to be 1014 01:06:16,550 --> 01:06:24,420 stripped bare of loved ones until you 1015 01:06:19,100 --> 01:06:28,799 stand alone to meet the shocks of life 1016 01:06:24,420 --> 01:06:32,490 to be able to say in such a school of 1017 01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:37,170 discipline the cup which my father has 1018 01:06:32,490 --> 01:06:40,350 given me shall I not drink it this is 1019 01:06:37,170 --> 01:06:45,270 faith that its highest and spiritual 1020 01:06:40,350 --> 01:06:47,580 success at the crowning point great 1021 01:06:45,270 --> 01:06:51,810 faith is exhibited not so much an 1022 01:06:47,580 --> 01:06:53,759 ability to do as to suffer to have a 1023 01:06:51,810 --> 01:06:57,509 sympathizing God we must have a 1024 01:06:53,760 --> 01:07:00,300 suffering Savior and there is no true 1025 01:06:57,510 --> 01:07:03,150 fellow-feeling with another save in the 1026 01:07:00,300 --> 01:07:07,560 heart of him who has been afflicted like 1027 01:07:03,150 --> 01:07:11,160 him we cannot do good to others save at 1028 01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:13,890 a cost to ourselves and our afflictions 1029 01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:19,259 are the price we pay for our ability to 1030 01:07:13,890 --> 01:07:22,819 sympathize he who would be a helper must 1031 01:07:19,260 --> 01:07:26,269 first be a supper 1032 01:07:22,819 --> 01:07:29,239 he who would be a savior unless 1033 01:07:26,269 --> 01:07:32,538 somewhere and somehow have been upon a 1034 01:07:29,239 --> 01:07:34,729 cross and we cannot have the highest 1035 01:07:32,539 --> 01:07:36,979 happiness of life in helping others 1036 01:07:34,729 --> 01:07:41,118 without tasting the cup which Jesus 1037 01:07:36,979 --> 01:07:44,569 drank and also submitting to the baptism 1038 01:07:41,119 --> 01:07:46,910 wherewith he was baptized most 1039 01:07:44,569 --> 01:07:50,630 comforting of David songs were pressed 1040 01:07:46,910 --> 01:07:53,959 out by submarine and if Paul had not had 1041 01:07:50,630 --> 01:07:56,239 his thorn in the flesh we would have 1042 01:07:53,959 --> 01:08:01,368 missed much of that tenderness which 1043 01:07:56,239 --> 01:08:03,859 Quivers in so many of his letters the 1044 01:08:01,369 --> 01:08:07,130 present circumstance which presses so 1045 01:08:03,859 --> 01:08:11,419 hard against you if you're surrendered 1046 01:08:07,130 --> 01:08:16,809 to Christ is the best shaped tool in the 1047 01:08:11,419 --> 01:08:21,130 father's hand to chisel you for eternity 1048 01:08:16,809 --> 01:08:25,199 trust him then do not push away the 1049 01:08:21,130 --> 01:08:28,719 instrument lest you lose its work 1050 01:08:25,198 --> 01:08:32,799 strange and difficult indeed we may find 1051 01:08:28,719 --> 01:08:35,788 it but the blessing that we need is 1052 01:08:32,799 --> 01:08:41,229 behind it the school of suffering 1053 01:08:35,788 --> 01:08:43,868 graduates rare scholars so streams in 1054 01:08:41,229 --> 01:08:47,709 the desert is more of a history to you 1055 01:08:43,868 --> 01:08:50,348 than a David devotional yes I guess that 1056 01:08:47,710 --> 01:08:53,559 is a good way to say it of course there 1057 01:08:50,349 --> 01:08:58,960 were years of writings and notes that 1058 01:08:53,559 --> 01:09:01,809 all had to be put in one book I said if 1059 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:05,219 you believe me as to what to include in 1060 01:09:01,809 --> 01:09:08,679 the book I will compile it for you Lord 1061 01:09:05,219 --> 01:09:13,710 he was faithful and the book was 1062 01:09:08,679 --> 01:09:16,509 completed so when was the book completed 1063 01:09:13,710 --> 01:09:20,948 well that's quite a story in itself 1064 01:09:16,509 --> 01:09:23,198 the first publication was in 1924 but we 1065 01:09:20,948 --> 01:09:26,439 had a misstep with a printer and we had 1066 01:09:23,198 --> 01:09:28,408 to go back to the drawing board of 1067 01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:32,618 course Charles went to be with the Lord 1068 01:09:28,408 --> 01:09:36,519 September of that same year but the book 1069 01:09:32,618 --> 01:09:39,670 was released again in 1925 and to the 1070 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:43,239 amazement of us all it has never been 1071 01:09:39,670 --> 01:09:45,578 out of print since it seems to me you're 1072 01:09:43,238 --> 01:09:48,638 suffering along with perseverance you 1073 01:09:45,578 --> 01:09:51,429 paid off I could never have done it 1074 01:09:48,639 --> 01:09:55,929 without the Lord streets that's for sure 1075 01:09:51,429 --> 01:09:57,909 I remember the printer telling me that 1076 01:09:55,929 --> 01:10:01,480 it would probably only sell about 500 1077 01:09:57,909 --> 01:10:06,489 copies but the Lord had a different plan 1078 01:10:01,480 --> 01:10:06,789 that no man could stop a dear friend of 1079 01:10:06,489 --> 01:10:10,928 mine 1080 01:10:06,789 --> 01:10:13,360 Esther Ernie asked me one time why 1081 01:10:10,929 --> 01:10:15,010 streams in the desert was so popular and 1082 01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:17,619 so much more popular than the other 1083 01:10:15,010 --> 01:10:19,170 books I had written I told her the 1084 01:10:17,619 --> 01:10:23,250 streams in the desert was 1085 01:10:19,170 --> 01:10:26,160 oran but the other books I had just 1086 01:10:23,250 --> 01:10:28,530 written well Eddie I didn't plan on 1087 01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:30,780 interviewing here today but it seems as 1088 01:10:28,530 --> 01:10:33,660 if God had us to meet for another reason 1089 01:10:30,780 --> 01:10:35,730 I have been very encouraged by your 1090 01:10:33,660 --> 01:10:36,990 faith and I'm planning on getting a copy 1091 01:10:35,730 --> 01:10:47,580 of your book today 1092 01:10:36,990 --> 01:10:50,980 [Music] 1093 01:10:47,580 --> 01:10:53,409 here you go David this is one of the 1094 01:10:50,980 --> 01:10:55,989 original copies that I've held on to 1095 01:10:53,409 --> 01:10:59,290 from four years that came from the first 1096 01:10:55,989 --> 01:11:02,769 printing and I want you to have it ready 1097 01:10:59,290 --> 01:11:08,320 Larry I can't choose from oh yes you can 1098 01:11:02,770 --> 01:11:10,050 with my blessing and remember when 1099 01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:13,420 you're going through the trials of life 1100 01:11:10,050 --> 01:11:18,820 listen for God's voice over all the 1101 01:11:13,420 --> 01:11:19,030 others and he will guide your way thank 1102 01:11:18,820 --> 01:11:22,450 you 1103 01:11:19,030 --> 01:11:26,240 [Music] 1104 01:11:22,450 --> 01:11:29,318 what is your purpose 1105 01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,318 [Music] 1106 01:11:29,670 --> 01:11:37,590 how does one define their purpose today 1107 01:11:35,130 --> 01:11:42,900 I had the pleasure of interviewing a 1108 01:11:37,590 --> 01:11:45,330 person than his left of life she and her 1109 01:11:42,900 --> 01:11:48,240 husband along with Judy Nakata and 1110 01:11:45,330 --> 01:11:53,460 Ernest Kilbourne started a worldwide 1111 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:56,670 Bible Training Institute her name is 1112 01:11:53,460 --> 01:11:59,640 Lady B Calvin Lettie has also authored 1113 01:11:56,670 --> 01:12:03,210 many books including the beloved streams 1114 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:05,730 in the desert devotional as I 1115 01:12:03,210 --> 01:12:08,160 interviewed Lady today she shared with 1116 01:12:05,730 --> 01:12:09,959 me her history and how she and her 1117 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:13,380 husband were challenged along their 1118 01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:14,910 ministry journey her husband was 1119 01:12:13,380 --> 01:12:18,290 stricken with heart disease and 1120 01:12:14,910 --> 01:12:21,030 ultimately forced from the mission field 1121 01:12:18,290 --> 01:12:23,550 she would later lose her husband to the 1122 01:12:21,030 --> 01:12:28,349 disease and suffer great agony because 1123 01:12:23,550 --> 01:12:31,160 of but to my surprise she has a very 1124 01:12:28,350 --> 01:12:33,499 positive view of all of her life's 1125 01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:36,320 events 1126 01:12:33,499 --> 01:12:38,510 most people I believe would have a very 1127 01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:41,509 different take on why these events 1128 01:12:38,510 --> 01:12:43,940 happen but Lenny 1129 01:12:41,510 --> 01:12:47,960 attributes her positive attitude to her 1130 01:12:43,940 --> 01:12:50,478 faith in God most people are familiar 1131 01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:54,760 with the devotional book she and her 1132 01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:54,760 husband put together before Charles died 1133 01:12:55,450 --> 01:13:03,290 but what most don't know is that they 1134 01:12:58,610 --> 01:13:05,030 never plan to write a book instead the 1135 01:13:03,290 --> 01:13:07,610 suffering they were going through with 1136 01:13:05,030 --> 01:13:09,469 Charles sickness led them to seek out 1137 01:13:07,610 --> 01:13:12,799 written comfort from a variety of 1138 01:13:09,470 --> 01:13:15,830 sources these writings became the 1139 01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:18,020 streams in the desert devotion after 1140 01:13:15,830 --> 01:13:20,030 many years streams in the desert is 1141 01:13:18,020 --> 01:13:22,160 still a widely read devotional that 1142 01:13:20,030 --> 01:13:24,920 continues to encourage millions of 1143 01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:26,870 readers around the globe as it has been 1144 01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:29,540 translated into every major language 1145 01:13:26,870 --> 01:13:32,840 around the world so if you're trying to 1146 01:13:29,540 --> 01:13:35,420 find your purpose in this life or even 1147 01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:38,150 more importantly just find out who you 1148 01:13:35,420 --> 01:13:42,590 are I give you this simple piece of 1149 01:13:38,150 --> 01:13:45,860 advice that I learned today embrace your 1150 01:13:42,590 --> 01:13:49,850 struggles appreciate your loved ones 1151 01:13:45,860 --> 01:13:53,809 while they are still with you and most 1152 01:13:49,850 --> 01:13:58,000 importantly as Letty would say wait on 1153 01:13:53,810 --> 01:14:02,840 God lean hard on him and listen to 1154 01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:05,100 listen to his voice above all the others 1155 01:14:02,840 --> 01:15:34,699 in this lighter 1156 01:14:05,100 --> 01:15:34,699 [Music] 1157 01:15:37,300 --> 01:15:48,470 [Music] 1158 01:15:46,390 --> 01:15:57,300 [Applause] 1159 01:15:48,470 --> 01:15:57,730 [Music] 1160 01:15:57,300 --> 01:16:12,830 you 1161 01:15:57,730 --> 01:16:12,830 [Music] 1162 01:16:16,340 --> 01:16:21,779 [Music] 1163 01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:46,648 [Music] 1164 01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:48,980 you 85126

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