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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:21,076 --> 00:00:22,976 First new message. 2 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,910 Hey Blaise it's Ferhan speaking. 3 00:00:25,940 --> 00:00:28,010 Thank you so much for getting back to my 4 00:00:28,010 --> 00:00:31,430 application to join your project Rainbow Films. 5 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,700 I just wondered if it would be possible to meet 6 00:00:33,700 --> 00:00:34,630 with you tomorrow. 7 00:00:35,050 --> 00:00:37,210 I know you're going to be in Birmingham to film the 8 00:00:37,270 --> 00:00:39,760 anti-LGBT protests. 9 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,630 As it happens I'm gonna to be there as well. 10 00:00:43,110 --> 00:00:45,300 So I wondered if maybe we could just connect while 11 00:00:45,300 --> 00:00:48,030 we're both there and talk a little bit about the 12 00:00:48,030 --> 00:00:48,750 project. 13 00:00:49,140 --> 00:00:51,120 And maybe you can find out a little bit about 14 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,380 what I'm about too. 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,400 Your message will be saved for seven days. 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,790 When I see my sisters leave the school 17 00:00:59,790 --> 00:01:01,680 and come to me and cry 18 00:01:01,830 --> 00:01:05,700 and say we are sending our most prized possession 19 00:01:05,710 --> 00:01:08,540 into a school where they are messing with our 20 00:01:08,540 --> 00:01:09,610 children's heads. 21 00:01:09,690 --> 00:01:11,220 I will not sit back. 22 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,560 I don't know about none of you but I 23 00:01:13,660 --> 00:01:16,780 will not sit back and I urge you to stand with me 24 00:01:17,020 --> 00:01:20,670 every single time we protest. 25 00:01:20,900 --> 00:01:22,810 Let kids. 26 00:01:22,900 --> 00:01:23,480 Be kids. 27 00:01:23,550 --> 00:01:24,480 Let kids. 28 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:25,470 Be kids. 29 00:01:25,470 --> 00:01:26,490 Listen to 30 00:01:26,540 --> 00:01:27,170 parents. 31 00:01:27,170 --> 00:01:28,170 Listen to 32 00:01:28,230 --> 00:01:29,260 parents. 33 00:01:29,450 --> 00:01:30,500 Listen to 34 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:31,600 parents. 35 00:01:31,624 --> 00:01:32,699 Listen to 36 00:01:32,700 --> 00:01:33,599 parents. 37 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:34,320 We will not 38 00:01:34,350 --> 00:01:35,190 step down. 39 00:01:35,220 --> 00:01:36,030 We will not 40 00:01:36,054 --> 00:01:36,899 step down. 41 00:01:36,950 --> 00:01:37,840 Don't engage with him. 42 00:01:37,860 --> 00:01:40,020 Why not? Why can't you engage with me? 43 00:01:40,190 --> 00:01:41,120 He's an Islamophobe that's why. 44 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:41,750 I'm not an Islamophobe. 45 00:01:41,750 --> 00:01:43,490 How can I be an Islamophobe of I'm a 46 00:01:43,490 --> 00:01:43,910 Muslim? 47 00:01:44,150 --> 00:01:46,100 Alright OK would you like your son to be gay? 48 00:01:46,730 --> 00:01:48,930 Well it's not really for me to decide whether he's gay 49 00:01:48,930 --> 00:01:49,680 or straight. 50 00:01:49,930 --> 00:01:50,940 He is I know he is. 51 00:01:51,140 --> 00:01:51,780 You are gay? 52 00:01:51,804 --> 00:01:53,059 You are gay? 53 00:01:53,060 --> 00:01:54,290 Are you asking me if I'm gay? 54 00:01:54,290 --> 00:01:55,460 I say you are gay? 55 00:01:55,790 --> 00:01:57,260 Well why do you want to know? 56 00:01:57,380 --> 00:01:58,400 Look like look like. 57 00:01:58,850 --> 00:02:02,990 Because you talking. You talking in woman and gay. 58 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,650 Are you gay? 59 00:02:04,700 --> 00:02:07,290 Keep away keep away. 60 00:02:08,420 --> 00:02:09,320 I love this jacket. 61 00:02:09,410 --> 00:02:11,060 This jacket looks amazing. 62 00:02:11,060 --> 00:02:12,000 Amazeballs. 63 00:02:12,170 --> 00:02:16,040 You will not see homophobic abuse from us 64 00:02:16,100 --> 00:02:16,550 to any 65 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,800 individual of the LGBT community or the 66 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:19,100 community - 67 00:02:19,100 --> 00:02:21,830 With all due respect you don't get to decide who 68 00:02:21,900 --> 00:02:23,160 is homophobic and or not. 69 00:02:23,184 --> 00:02:25,184 With all due respect - 70 00:02:26,008 --> 00:02:28,008 Our children 71 00:02:28,132 --> 00:02:30,132 Our right. 72 00:02:36,340 --> 00:02:38,680 I'm a queer Muslim activist and I'm here to 73 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,660 observe the protests and try to 74 00:02:40,750 --> 00:02:42,490 provide a counter narrative as a queer 75 00:02:42,490 --> 00:02:45,760 Muslim to be visible as a Muslim and say actually, 76 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,470 there's nothing in the faith that compels you to 77 00:02:47,470 --> 00:02:48,220 be homophobic. 78 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:52,000 Only LGBTQ community can decide who is homophobic 79 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:52,700 and who isn't. 80 00:02:52,780 --> 00:02:55,300 Look in this country in this country, 81 00:02:55,450 --> 00:02:57,910 they can't even define what Islamophobia is. 82 00:03:02,170 --> 00:03:05,260 They keep saying oooh no that's not what we're 83 00:03:05,260 --> 00:03:07,130 teaching. Oooh no. 84 00:03:07,210 --> 00:03:08,250 Well what's this? 85 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:09,830 What's this? 86 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:10,760 It's out of your books. 87 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,090 And there are some things on there that are so 88 00:03:13,130 --> 00:03:15,990 shameful I struggle to put them up because I'll 89 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,320 myself in disrepute but the people in that school 90 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:20,910 don't feel sensitivity towards it. 91 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,240 Shakeel quick flashes, quick flashes, that's all 92 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:25,840 we can do. 93 00:03:25,864 --> 00:03:28,064 Because there are paedophiles in there 94 00:03:28,088 --> 00:03:30,088 There are paedophiles in there. 95 00:03:30,112 --> 00:03:32,112 I can't put half of it up. 96 00:03:32,136 --> 00:03:34,736 Give it us here. 97 00:03:35,060 --> 00:03:37,060 There are paedophiles in there. 98 00:03:37,084 --> 00:03:39,069 This is a paedophilia agenda. 99 00:03:39,070 --> 00:03:42,770 People just genuinely want to have their voice heard. 100 00:03:42,820 --> 00:03:44,980 I think it's a shame that they have to shout about 101 00:03:44,980 --> 00:03:46,660 it on a megaphone and do it this way, 102 00:03:46,900 --> 00:03:48,550 but they just seem to want to have their voice 103 00:03:48,550 --> 00:03:49,600 heard. 104 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:50,990 Where you from? 105 00:03:51,070 --> 00:03:52,130 Rainbow Films. 106 00:03:53,620 --> 00:03:54,430 Don't worry about them. 107 00:03:54,430 --> 00:03:56,500 I'm gonna do a little interview with you. So 108 00:03:56,500 --> 00:03:58,000 you you're concerned about some of the 109 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,800 materials being shown to kids. 110 00:03:59,830 --> 00:04:01,320 Yeah? Erm. 111 00:04:01,390 --> 00:04:03,280 And you're gonna show me some of the materials 112 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:03,970 that they're showing it. 113 00:04:03,970 --> 00:04:04,450 Definitely. 114 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:05,800 Okay so what about this one? 115 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,530 First of all, what we've got here? 116 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,830 We've got Heather has two Mummies. 117 00:04:10,830 --> 00:04:12,410 What's wrong with that? 118 00:04:12,434 --> 00:04:14,109 Men love men. Okay fine. 119 00:04:14,110 --> 00:04:15,550 Men love men. Fine. 120 00:04:15,850 --> 00:04:19,630 Women love women fine. Oh, I feel bisexual 121 00:04:19,810 --> 00:04:21,910 okay I'll still look like a yoyo, fine. 122 00:04:22,275 --> 00:04:24,745 What about transgender? 123 00:04:24,769 --> 00:04:26,769 What are you telling our children? 124 00:04:26,793 --> 00:04:28,793 That a boy can be a girl? 125 00:04:28,794 --> 00:04:30,305 Are you a boy or a girl? 126 00:04:30,330 --> 00:04:31,580 So let's talk about - 127 00:04:31,604 --> 00:04:32,729 I'm actually gender non-binary. 128 00:04:32,730 --> 00:04:34,350 I don't care what you are it doesn't matter about 129 00:04:34,350 --> 00:04:35,430 what you are or what I am. 130 00:04:35,580 --> 00:04:37,170 Our children and they grew up in our 131 00:04:37,170 --> 00:04:39,090 households and we don't it's not about you. 132 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,080 This is a problem isn't it? 133 00:04:40,110 --> 00:04:41,880 All of this is very subjective for you. 134 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,470 You whole life is about you. 135 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,510 Your whole life is subjective. It's how you 136 00:04:45,510 --> 00:04:46,140 see things. 137 00:04:46,230 --> 00:04:48,120 And this is we have an objective viewpoint - 138 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,680 Can we have a look at some more of them. 139 00:04:49,730 --> 00:04:50,840 There's no need just stay on that one. 140 00:04:51,630 --> 00:04:53,040 Right do you know what? There's nothing wrong 141 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:53,520 with this one. 142 00:04:53,730 --> 00:04:54,840 What do you means there's nothing wrong with it? 143 00:04:54,990 --> 00:04:55,710 This is where it's all at. 144 00:04:55,710 --> 00:04:57,120 Are you a boy or a girl what's the big deal - 145 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,140 Right can I have a look at some more please? 146 00:04:58,140 --> 00:04:59,260 No, no, no, no. 147 00:04:59,284 --> 00:05:00,089 Why not? 148 00:05:00,090 --> 00:05:01,260 I'll tell you why. Because there's 149 00:05:01,260 --> 00:05:01,290 a 150 00:05:01,350 --> 00:05:02,910 school down in Slough. There's another - 151 00:05:02,940 --> 00:05:03,210 Right - 152 00:05:03,210 --> 00:05:03,900 Can I just have a - 153 00:05:03,900 --> 00:05:04,410 Can I - 154 00:05:04,410 --> 00:05:05,100 Can I have these 155 00:05:05,100 --> 00:05:06,870 please or otherwise I'm not doing this. 156 00:05:06,870 --> 00:05:07,230 Can I just say - 157 00:05:07,230 --> 00:05:09,030 No no give me these - 158 00:05:09,030 --> 00:05:10,470 No I want to look at the other ones. 159 00:05:10,770 --> 00:05:12,780 It was to just do this one, I want to do 160 00:05:12,780 --> 00:05:13,620 transgender. 161 00:05:13,770 --> 00:05:15,510 Our children are not transgender they're only 162 00:05:15,510 --> 00:05:16,080 four and five. 163 00:05:16,290 --> 00:05:17,700 Can I have a look at the other one. 164 00:05:18,330 --> 00:05:18,960 They belong to him. 165 00:05:19,410 --> 00:05:20,850 Well then how am I supposed to discuss them 166 00:05:20,850 --> 00:05:21,690 if he's not gonna show me them. 167 00:05:21,690 --> 00:05:22,740 This discussion needs to be around them. 168 00:05:22,980 --> 00:05:24,420 Right so let's see some more. 169 00:05:24,420 --> 00:05:25,650 No. The discussion needs to be - 170 00:05:25,650 --> 00:05:27,990 Can I have a look at the other ones please? 171 00:05:28,110 --> 00:05:30,510 And I have to say well a child of four or five 172 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:32,490 doesn't know his own sexuality 173 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,790 he doesn't know the word sex. 174 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,900 So I think that the passion that the 175 00:05:36,900 --> 00:05:39,720 protesters are showing all comes from nothing 176 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,490 more than deep homophobia. 177 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,330 You should be representing the parents. 178 00:05:44,370 --> 00:05:45,450 Mum why you having a debate? 179 00:05:45,900 --> 00:05:47,040 Ooh mum. Is that your mum? 180 00:05:48,270 --> 00:05:49,500 Can I have a picture with all of you? 181 00:05:49,500 --> 00:05:50,580 No, no, no, thank you. 182 00:05:50,730 --> 00:05:52,320 Shame on you own during Ramadan. 183 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,030 What what? 184 00:05:54,030 --> 00:05:54,570 Move from my face. 185 00:05:54,570 --> 00:05:56,150 That's not - 186 00:05:56,150 --> 00:05:57,180 Why well. 187 00:05:57,510 --> 00:05:58,390 Shame on you. 188 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,060 She asked him. She asked him for his opinion. 189 00:06:00,150 --> 00:06:00,540 No no no. 190 00:06:00,540 --> 00:06:01,680 Aunty asked him for his opinion. 191 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:02,710 Aunty asked me. 192 00:06:02,970 --> 00:06:05,940 Unfortunately I've got a - I made, listen guys. 193 00:06:06,210 --> 00:06:09,450 Just to clarify I made a video with this man and I 194 00:06:09,450 --> 00:06:10,860 spoke to him very politely but you know 195 00:06:10,860 --> 00:06:11,340 what he did? 196 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,400 He posted all the videos on his YouTube except for 197 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:14,760 mine. 198 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,930 Why? Because he's he's he's vile arrogant bigot. 199 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:19,950 Don't talk to him. 200 00:06:19,950 --> 00:06:20,910 I didn't have time. 201 00:06:20,910 --> 00:06:22,830 I didn't have time to do your video 202 00:06:22,890 --> 00:06:24,750 Right anyway right let's let's do our video. 203 00:06:25,515 --> 00:06:27,515 You're gonna be accountable. 204 00:06:27,540 --> 00:06:29,370 You're gonna be accountable. 205 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,490 Can I - sorry can I just do this interview please. 206 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,350 No we don't like this silly business. Have you 207 00:06:34,350 --> 00:06:34,920 got children here? 208 00:06:35,130 --> 00:06:37,370 No. Then why you here for? Huh? 209 00:06:37,460 --> 00:06:38,790 Can I just do my interview please? 210 00:06:38,790 --> 00:06:39,660 No no. 211 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,740 Just go away from here. You're not wanted here. 212 00:06:45,660 --> 00:06:46,940 You're the devils game. 213 00:06:46,940 --> 00:06:48,000 Shameful shameful. 214 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,360 Which one of you here has ever protested at the 215 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:52,980 Birmingham Gay Pride event? 216 00:06:53,070 --> 00:06:56,160 None of us. None of us. 217 00:06:56,430 --> 00:06:59,880 Yet we have an LGBT member who wants to come 218 00:06:59,950 --> 00:07:02,950 and try to make out we are homophobic. 219 00:07:02,970 --> 00:07:06,690 We will protest and protest and protest 220 00:07:06,840 --> 00:07:08,850 the same way our brothers and 221 00:07:08,850 --> 00:07:12,870 sisters around the world take bombs after bombs 222 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,910 after bombs after bombs. 223 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,010 We will protest and protest. 224 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,020 Even if till my hair goes white. 225 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,890 I'll carry on protesting. 226 00:07:30,810 --> 00:07:33,960 Everybody has the right to protest, but we have 227 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,690 the right to show them how to protest. 228 00:07:40,380 --> 00:07:42,870 And no protest in the city does it as 229 00:07:42,870 --> 00:07:44,640 colourfully as we do. 230 00:07:47,940 --> 00:07:50,520 A few years ago Birmingham Pride 231 00:07:50,670 --> 00:07:53,520 helped to fund a project that at the time we knew 232 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:54,960 very little about. 233 00:07:55,740 --> 00:07:57,990 And it was called 'No Outsiders'. 234 00:07:59,670 --> 00:08:02,760 Little did we know how important and significant 235 00:08:02,790 --> 00:08:05,760 it would be this Pride weekend. 236 00:08:07,020 --> 00:08:10,980 And our protest this weekend is one of 237 00:08:10,980 --> 00:08:15,870 tolerance and equality and togetherness and love 238 00:08:16,170 --> 00:08:17,460 and acceptance. 239 00:08:18,420 --> 00:08:21,210 And that our relationships are as 240 00:08:21,210 --> 00:08:23,190 important as yours. 241 00:08:26,010 --> 00:08:29,520 And the person who put all that into a book and 242 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:30,540 it formed part of 243 00:08:30,540 --> 00:08:32,850 the national curriculum was a guy called 244 00:08:32,850 --> 00:08:33,910 Andrew Moffitt. 245 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,790 And Andrew Moffitt will be leading our parade 246 00:08:38,790 --> 00:08:41,130 today alongside for the first 247 00:08:41,130 --> 00:08:44,880 time in our history two members of the LGBTQ 248 00:08:44,910 --> 00:08:47,220 Muslim community because we're walking together. 249 00:08:51,545 --> 00:08:54,145 This is what I want my children in my school 250 00:08:54,169 --> 00:08:54,869 to see because 251 00:08:54,870 --> 00:08:57,750 this is Birmingham, not the protests. 252 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,450 This is Birmingham, looking around me now I 253 00:09:00,450 --> 00:09:01,770 can see different skin, 254 00:09:01,770 --> 00:09:04,080 different religions, different faiths, 255 00:09:04,170 --> 00:09:08,430 disabilities, LGBTQ+ and it works. 256 00:09:08,460 --> 00:09:11,000 Celebrate Birmingham today remember wherever you 257 00:09:11,086 --> 00:09:14,480 are whoever you are there are 'No Outsiders' here. 258 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:18,970 You need a wristband sir! 259 00:09:18,994 --> 00:09:20,394 Excuse me you need a wristband. 260 00:09:20,418 --> 00:09:22,418 Don't misgender me because I'm not - 261 00:09:22,442 --> 00:09:24,542 don't touch me. 262 00:09:24,566 --> 00:09:26,566 Don't touch me. 263 00:09:26,590 --> 00:09:28,590 Whoa whoa whoa. 264 00:09:30,638 --> 00:09:32,389 What are you doing? 265 00:09:32,390 --> 00:09:34,390 Look what he's doing to me. 266 00:09:34,414 --> 00:09:38,914 This is how they treat people. 267 00:09:38,938 --> 00:09:40,938 Look at them. 268 00:09:40,962 --> 00:09:44,962 Look at the way they treat me. 269 00:09:44,986 --> 00:09:46,986 Look at the way they treat me. 270 00:09:47,310 --> 00:09:49,310 Let go. 271 00:09:49,334 --> 00:09:51,334 Calm down. 272 00:09:51,358 --> 00:09:53,358 Let go of me. 273 00:09:53,382 --> 00:09:55,382 Get off. 274 00:09:57,730 --> 00:09:59,520 You can't let them do this. 275 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,930 So Rainbow Films is a project that was born out 276 00:10:08,930 --> 00:10:11,060 of a discussion that I had with 277 00:10:11,060 --> 00:10:12,860 some of our previous participants in some 278 00:10:12,860 --> 00:10:14,600 shape or form every single person 279 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,450 in that conversation had been a victim of a hate 280 00:10:17,450 --> 00:10:19,550 crime like I myself have 281 00:10:19,820 --> 00:10:22,940 numerous times been attacked, I had a bottle 282 00:10:22,940 --> 00:10:24,200 smashed in my face. I've been 283 00:10:24,380 --> 00:10:28,220 stamped by rude boys in a nightclub literally 284 00:10:28,220 --> 00:10:29,740 stamping on my head because I got 285 00:10:29,750 --> 00:10:32,270 in the way of them arguing with someone and 286 00:10:32,270 --> 00:10:33,140 then they were like shut the 287 00:10:33,140 --> 00:10:35,030 fuck up you batty boy and I got bottled across the 288 00:10:35,030 --> 00:10:36,710 head and then stamped on the face. 289 00:10:36,710 --> 00:10:39,200 For that kid like me feeling intimidated, 290 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:40,850 pestered, harassed by people just 291 00:10:40,850 --> 00:10:43,760 because they are who they are, you are not alone. 292 00:10:44,150 --> 00:10:46,070 And just having that visibility, 293 00:10:46,070 --> 00:10:49,400 I think is so important to allow people to feel - 294 00:10:49,430 --> 00:10:51,560 You know what, there's nothing wrong with me. 295 00:10:51,860 --> 00:10:53,930 I'm a human being at the end of the day 296 00:10:54,170 --> 00:10:58,010 and my sexuality should not be something that I 297 00:10:58,010 --> 00:10:58,970 feel ashamed about 298 00:10:58,970 --> 00:11:00,470 because other people make me feel that way. 299 00:11:05,580 --> 00:11:08,580 I basically got manhandled out of Pride. 300 00:11:08,730 --> 00:11:10,050 And this Pride is supposed to be about 301 00:11:10,050 --> 00:11:10,890 inclusion. 302 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,660 It's supposed to be about counter protest against 303 00:11:13,660 --> 00:11:14,650 the homophobic 304 00:11:14,650 --> 00:11:16,840 rhetoric that some Muslim communities within 305 00:11:16,990 --> 00:11:18,430 Birmingham are spouting. 306 00:11:18,430 --> 00:11:19,960 And me as a gay Muslim 307 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,710 I want to kinda be a counter narrative to all that. 308 00:11:23,070 --> 00:11:24,870 We've started a new platform. 309 00:11:24,870 --> 00:11:26,580 It's all about queer people of colour 310 00:11:26,580 --> 00:11:27,990 and it's all about our experiences. 311 00:11:27,990 --> 00:11:29,550 It's about the events that we go to. 312 00:11:29,550 --> 00:11:31,200 It's about the prejudices that we face 313 00:11:31,380 --> 00:11:33,240 the discriminative behaviour that we 314 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:34,440 encounter along the way 315 00:11:34,740 --> 00:11:37,440 and I thought it'd be a really great idea to get 316 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:38,230 you involved. 317 00:11:38,310 --> 00:11:40,170 So like how did all this come about? 318 00:11:40,170 --> 00:11:42,330 A few years ago, I was a secondary school teacher. 319 00:11:42,390 --> 00:11:43,890 Don't ask me how that happened. 320 00:11:44,430 --> 00:11:46,260 But the reason why I say that is because 321 00:11:46,260 --> 00:11:47,010 high school for me 322 00:11:47,010 --> 00:11:49,650 like many queer people was a place of trauma. 323 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,040 I hadn't actually come out myself as a gay man 324 00:11:53,090 --> 00:11:55,770 however on my social media, it was quite 325 00:11:55,770 --> 00:11:56,820 obvious I was 326 00:11:56,850 --> 00:11:59,490 and the students found out I was gay. 327 00:12:00,510 --> 00:12:01,110 Hi Blaise. 328 00:12:01,110 --> 00:12:02,310 Er you're not in this class. 329 00:12:02,334 --> 00:12:04,334 Bye Blaise. 330 00:12:09,630 --> 00:12:12,390 Okay. Anyone want to read out what it says? 331 00:12:16,470 --> 00:12:18,150 What do you think the intention was? 332 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,940 If it's left on my seat specifically? 333 00:12:23,700 --> 00:12:25,740 And not just like it fell off the table but like 334 00:12:25,740 --> 00:12:29,070 literally strategically placed on the chair. 335 00:12:29,070 --> 00:12:30,900 So when I come back I will see it. 336 00:12:34,710 --> 00:12:36,510 Okay, well I'm gonna help you out. 337 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,580 I think it was to shame. 338 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,020 The intention was to shame. 339 00:12:40,110 --> 00:12:42,870 Considering what you may or may not know of me. 340 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,770 As a gay man I have encountered many of these 341 00:12:46,770 --> 00:12:47,790 microaggressions 342 00:12:47,910 --> 00:12:49,470 probably on a daily basis. 343 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,740 Now, I'm quite secure in who I am. 344 00:12:53,190 --> 00:12:55,080 It's taken me quite a few years to get there. 345 00:12:55,560 --> 00:12:57,120 I've been through loads of things. 346 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,880 So this is kind of like a minor in comparison. 347 00:13:00,490 --> 00:13:02,470 Yeah, but what it does is it does kind of bring 348 00:13:02,470 --> 00:13:03,650 back things. 349 00:13:03,665 --> 00:13:04,998 So in my hand 350 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,710 I've got the handwritten statements that you guys wrote. 351 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,580 This plus this analysis equals culprit. 352 00:13:11,850 --> 00:13:14,550 You might be feeling your ears burning 353 00:13:14,550 --> 00:13:15,570 your heart racing 354 00:13:15,570 --> 00:13:16,470 if it was you 355 00:13:16,650 --> 00:13:19,050 if you feel any kind of guilt or any shame for 356 00:13:19,050 --> 00:13:19,560 what you've done 357 00:13:19,560 --> 00:13:20,700 you'll be feeling that right now. 358 00:13:21,060 --> 00:13:23,910 Now you multiply that by every single session 359 00:13:23,910 --> 00:13:26,460 you're going to see me between now and the end 360 00:13:26,490 --> 00:13:27,150 of the year. 361 00:13:27,180 --> 00:13:31,020 And that's 16 lessons yeah 16 times two hours 362 00:13:31,050 --> 00:13:33,230 32 hours coming into this class 363 00:13:33,300 --> 00:13:35,130 seeing me knowing what you did 364 00:13:35,130 --> 00:13:38,400 knowing that I've outed you and now you may be 365 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,290 potentially be treated differently for that. 366 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:41,610 Okay. 367 00:13:41,910 --> 00:13:44,340 And that doesn't even come close to what an 368 00:13:44,340 --> 00:13:46,770 LGBT person experiences in their life when they 369 00:13:46,770 --> 00:13:47,670 go to school 370 00:13:47,910 --> 00:13:50,340 and every single day they receive 371 00:13:50,580 --> 00:13:52,830 microaggressive abuse like this 372 00:13:53,010 --> 00:13:53,940 every single day. 373 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:57,960 It's not a good feeling. 374 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,410 So I'm not going to out you. I'm not going to 375 00:14:01,410 --> 00:14:02,910 stoop to that level because that's not me. 376 00:14:02,910 --> 00:14:06,270 I've been there I felt it. Because I am now in a 377 00:14:06,270 --> 00:14:08,340 position where my sexuality does not define 378 00:14:08,340 --> 00:14:11,160 who I am. It's how I deal with it. And it's 379 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,710 situations like this, that make me who I am. 380 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,560 So I set them this assignment and it was 381 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:18,770 basically to create a three to four minute 382 00:14:18,770 --> 00:14:21,610 video promoting equality and diversity. 383 00:14:21,610 --> 00:14:24,620 It got shut down by the year head 384 00:14:24,620 --> 00:14:26,740 who said to the students that look, you're not doing 385 00:14:26,740 --> 00:14:28,500 it because it's not part of the curriculum. 386 00:14:28,500 --> 00:14:31,152 So I left my teaching job and I decided to 387 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,291 work here full time and this is what I've been 388 00:14:33,380 --> 00:14:35,557 doing for the last four years. I've been working 389 00:14:35,620 --> 00:14:38,297 with young people, people of colour 390 00:14:38,392 --> 00:14:41,969 people from the LGBT community to provide them a safe space 391 00:14:42,054 --> 00:14:46,350 to give them a voice and help them to challenge stereotypes. 392 00:14:46,374 --> 00:14:48,374 You have an opportunity to create characters 393 00:14:48,398 --> 00:14:49,698 for people from your community. 394 00:14:49,722 --> 00:14:51,022 Because if you ain't gonna do it 395 00:14:51,046 --> 00:14:52,646 no one else it gonna do it yeah? 396 00:14:52,670 --> 00:14:54,670 So if you keep using names like John and Sarah 397 00:14:54,694 --> 00:14:56,694 you're gonna get the same old stale crappy 398 00:14:56,718 --> 00:14:58,718 actors that you see on TV all the time. 399 00:14:58,742 --> 00:15:01,042 Start creating characters that are Jassia 400 00:15:01,066 --> 00:15:04,266 or your Sharonjeets or Masood. 401 00:15:04,267 --> 00:15:05,315 Or Sufiyan. 402 00:15:05,340 --> 00:15:07,290 Use names like that. Because this is what 403 00:15:07,290 --> 00:15:08,340 these sessions are about. 404 00:15:08,580 --> 00:15:10,170 So I'm currently training a team of community 405 00:15:10,170 --> 00:15:12,870 reporters who are going to go out and interview 406 00:15:13,050 --> 00:15:15,420 queer people of colour role models and also 407 00:15:15,420 --> 00:15:18,240 identify the various queer safe spaces that 408 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:18,780 exist. 409 00:15:18,810 --> 00:15:21,540 What does it mean to be a queer person of colour in 410 00:15:21,540 --> 00:15:22,320 today's society? 411 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,280 Like I've come out to all these spaces and what 412 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,410 I've realised is like it's cool we've got 413 00:15:26,410 --> 00:15:30,060 all these like LGBT+ people but it's all just White. 414 00:15:30,060 --> 00:15:32,260 And it's all just like anytime I bring up 415 00:15:32,260 --> 00:15:35,050 race everyone just gets a bit like oh I don't 416 00:15:35,050 --> 00:15:36,220 want to talk about that. 417 00:15:36,780 --> 00:15:38,340 Kind of growing up I never saw 418 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,080 any Black or B rown faces that were queer. 419 00:15:41,140 --> 00:15:43,290 Now where I'm at university and being able to like 420 00:15:43,820 --> 00:15:45,590 do lots of different things and run my own 421 00:15:45,590 --> 00:15:47,690 projects in order to make sure that queer people of 422 00:15:47,690 --> 00:15:49,280 colour are heard in the narrative. 423 00:15:49,450 --> 00:15:52,480 When you are a queer person of colour it's 424 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,420 not necessarily as accepted in BAME circles 425 00:15:55,420 --> 00:15:57,430 as it is white circles so you pretty much have 426 00:15:57,430 --> 00:15:58,930 to find your chosen family. 427 00:15:59,050 --> 00:16:01,450 Which sharable little pieces of content can we 428 00:16:01,450 --> 00:16:03,160 create that's provocative that's 429 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,050 controversial that's gonna get people talking. 430 00:16:05,050 --> 00:16:07,750 I wanted to do this video which I think 431 00:16:07,780 --> 00:16:10,120 potentially is going to get us a lot of hits and 432 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,790 it's basically how gay friendly is your high street? 433 00:16:12,790 --> 00:16:17,650 And what we're thinking of doing is 434 00:16:17,650 --> 00:16:21,040 having two people kissing in different high streets. 435 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,250 I'm up for it actually. 436 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,030 Would you do it? I knew you would. 437 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,690 Because I have like the structure of what I want 438 00:16:27,690 --> 00:16:30,480 for each verse to be like, people who feel 439 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,100 like they're kind of trapped by being South 440 00:16:32,100 --> 00:16:33,990 Asian and being queer as well. It could be 441 00:16:33,990 --> 00:16:35,910 people's parents like that they're forcing you 442 00:16:35,910 --> 00:16:37,740 to go one way and then you feel like you're 443 00:16:37,740 --> 00:16:40,110 losing yourself and the chorus is just gonna be 444 00:16:40,110 --> 00:16:42,210 like you know maybe I do wanna live my own 445 00:16:42,210 --> 00:16:44,460 life I want to hold someone else's hand I 446 00:16:44,460 --> 00:16:46,470 wannna love how I want to basically. 447 00:16:46,494 --> 00:16:48,494 When I was your age I never even thought 448 00:16:48,518 --> 00:16:50,518 about coming out. 449 00:16:50,542 --> 00:16:51,939 But because I was outed by someone 450 00:16:51,940 --> 00:16:52,330 Oh yeah. 451 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,820 I ended up just going with it and it was the 452 00:16:54,820 --> 00:16:56,320 best thing that happened to me because I didn't 453 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,600 have to make those conversations it just 454 00:16:58,600 --> 00:16:59,770 happened and it was fine. 455 00:17:00,050 --> 00:17:01,820 I was outed in school though but that's how 456 00:17:01,820 --> 00:17:04,670 everyone else knows. I was only like 13 as well. 457 00:17:05,060 --> 00:17:06,710 I was watching Glee and then my favourite 458 00:17:06,710 --> 00:17:08,510 character came out as a lesbian and I was like a 459 00:17:08,510 --> 00:17:11,390 lesbian what's that? So I got bored and I Googled it. 460 00:17:11,390 --> 00:17:14,150 And then I found out about bisexuality. 461 00:17:14,150 --> 00:17:16,220 Straight away just kind of clicked with me so I 462 00:17:16,220 --> 00:17:18,110 told a couple of people like my friends and they 463 00:17:18,110 --> 00:17:19,700 were like oh yeah that's chill and then 464 00:17:19,700 --> 00:17:21,560 the next day I came to school and the entire 465 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,390 school was calling me a lesbian and I was like 466 00:17:23,420 --> 00:17:24,450 what? 467 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,840 I shared a room with my brother for 21 years of 468 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,990 my life, he hated me. Me and him did not get on. 469 00:17:36,260 --> 00:17:39,800 At this age. I knew something was off and I 470 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,590 definitely knew that I had feelings that I 471 00:17:42,590 --> 00:17:43,670 shouldn't be having. 472 00:17:43,780 --> 00:17:46,480 What like as in an attraction or you were 473 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,580 just felt like you're more interested in them 474 00:17:48,580 --> 00:17:50,060 than you normally would be. 475 00:17:50,100 --> 00:17:52,440 Yeah it was like it was a bit of both like 476 00:17:52,470 --> 00:17:54,690 obviously I couldn't accept the fact that it 477 00:17:54,690 --> 00:17:57,810 as an attraction at that age I was like gay 478 00:17:57,810 --> 00:18:01,650 is wrong whatever. I also was like crushing on 479 00:18:01,650 --> 00:18:03,080 this girl in my school. 480 00:18:03,104 --> 00:18:05,604 You know I actually have a friend he 481 00:18:05,660 --> 00:18:09,050 came out as bisexual when we were like 14 and 482 00:18:09,050 --> 00:18:11,120 then he came out as gay when we were 15 because 483 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:13,760 he was like no, no, nevermind I like guys. 484 00:18:13,940 --> 00:18:16,430 And it's like so many people use that as an 485 00:18:16,430 --> 00:18:18,910 excuse to say oh bisexuality is just a phase. 486 00:18:18,930 --> 00:18:22,020 But I don't understand that cuz like they 487 00:18:22,020 --> 00:18:24,330 think bisexual people have it easier we really 488 00:18:24,360 --> 00:18:24,950 don't. 489 00:18:25,020 --> 00:18:26,610 Yeah, I was 24. 490 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:27,330 Yeah. 491 00:18:27,330 --> 00:18:30,060 The first time I ever said it to someone. 492 00:18:30,060 --> 00:18:31,350 I got to a point where I was clearly 493 00:18:31,350 --> 00:18:32,340 attracted to men. 494 00:18:32,430 --> 00:18:32,820 Right. 495 00:18:32,870 --> 00:18:34,730 But I was like I don't want romantic 496 00:18:34,730 --> 00:18:35,660 relationships with them 497 00:18:35,870 --> 00:18:37,400 because they all suck. 498 00:18:37,690 --> 00:18:40,390 Like all the men in my life I never got 499 00:18:40,390 --> 00:18:42,460 on with my brother I don't get on with my dad. 500 00:18:42,820 --> 00:18:44,260 And then I fell in love with my straight best 501 00:18:44,260 --> 00:18:44,800 friend. 502 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:45,610 Right. 503 00:18:45,870 --> 00:18:47,820 And that went on for like a year. 504 00:18:48,060 --> 00:18:49,290 What did he look like? 505 00:18:50,140 --> 00:18:51,850 Okay, so he's like, 506 00:18:53,290 --> 00:18:54,070 a white guy. 507 00:18:54,130 --> 00:18:54,460 Right. 508 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:55,440 Blonde hair. 509 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:56,910 He had a very like cute face. 510 00:18:56,910 --> 00:18:57,450 Like soft boy. 511 00:18:57,750 --> 00:18:59,310 You were describing that there's 512 00:18:59,310 --> 00:19:01,590 like a certain type of personality and like 513 00:19:01,590 --> 00:19:03,510 attitude that comes with people that grew up in 514 00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:06,960 Southall so you're not really like attracted to 515 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:07,950 those kind of guys? 516 00:19:08,170 --> 00:19:09,470 No like I'm 517 00:19:10,670 --> 00:19:11,920 not really. 518 00:19:12,500 --> 00:19:14,960 Because all my friends are jokingly be like 519 00:19:15,220 --> 00:19:17,660 oh you always go for like the white guy. 520 00:19:17,668 --> 00:19:20,313 But they say that and the thing I immediately go 521 00:19:20,324 --> 00:19:23,803 back with is like because those are the only 522 00:19:23,827 --> 00:19:25,127 I meet. 523 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,230 I still have such a crush on Chun-Li I don't even get it. 524 00:19:28,230 --> 00:19:31,100 I'm just like fully love you and want to be you. 525 00:19:31,124 --> 00:19:33,624 Just like all kinds - just everything. 526 00:19:34,250 --> 00:19:36,070 Oh I see the guy you're talking about. 527 00:19:36,094 --> 00:19:37,178 The one by the wall? 528 00:19:37,350 --> 00:19:38,480 Yeah the window. 529 00:19:38,504 --> 00:19:40,304 Yeah he cute. 530 00:19:44,730 --> 00:19:45,300 Paki. 531 00:19:46,380 --> 00:19:47,220 Towelhead. 532 00:19:47,850 --> 00:19:48,510 Whore. 533 00:19:49,290 --> 00:19:53,250 Slut, greedy, sex obsessed. 534 00:19:53,820 --> 00:19:54,540 Slave. 535 00:19:54,930 --> 00:19:55,560 Mulan. 536 00:19:55,930 --> 00:19:56,990 Dark chocolate. 537 00:19:57,340 --> 00:19:58,360 Ladyboy. 538 00:19:58,360 --> 00:19:59,120 Oriental. 539 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,080 Nigga. 540 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,040 Jackie Chan. 541 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:01,990 Yellow face. 542 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:02,830 Golliwog. 543 00:20:03,020 --> 00:20:05,210 When you're East Asian people have either have 544 00:20:05,210 --> 00:20:06,980 this idea that you're going to be very sexually 545 00:20:06,980 --> 00:20:08,420 provocative or naughty. 546 00:20:08,690 --> 00:20:10,640 And he was like, oh, you're not full Asian 547 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,730 right? When you're full Asian like they're 548 00:20:13,730 --> 00:20:14,810 generally not good looking. 549 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,970 Obviously there's a big issue with racism. 550 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,750 When you try and bring that to light sometimes 551 00:20:19,750 --> 00:20:22,210 a lot of people act like you're trying to make 552 00:20:22,210 --> 00:20:23,680 things up or you're trying to divide the 553 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,470 community when obviously it's stuff that's 554 00:20:25,470 --> 00:20:26,180 happened to you. 555 00:20:26,270 --> 00:20:29,060 Stonewall and a lot of historical queer history 556 00:20:29,060 --> 00:20:30,830 was brought about by queer people of colour 557 00:20:30,830 --> 00:20:32,900 and that's something we mustn't forget. We wanna 558 00:20:32,900 --> 00:20:34,520 be part of the community but there's not 559 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,610 always a space for us. I think more inclusivity is 560 00:20:37,610 --> 00:20:39,860 very important which is why I'm really eager and 561 00:20:39,860 --> 00:20:41,420 looking forward to UK Black Pride. 562 00:20:41,750 --> 00:20:44,240 The power I have in my privilege of being able 563 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,430 to stand up as an out and proud bisexual Muslim. 564 00:20:47,100 --> 00:20:49,920 When I do see people of colour who only date 565 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,780 White people I try not to be judgmental. 566 00:20:53,030 --> 00:20:56,510 A lot of the time some of it can stem from 567 00:20:56,540 --> 00:20:57,710 internalised racism. 568 00:20:59,770 --> 00:21:02,830 You know the idea that oh well you know I'm 569 00:21:02,830 --> 00:21:05,590 just I'm just attracted to who I'm attracted to. 570 00:21:05,590 --> 00:21:07,660 It's like what how come you only date White girls 571 00:21:07,660 --> 00:21:11,800 though? You know that there's something else 572 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:17,320 there that that informs that attraction perhaps 573 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,590 it's something else that you're trying to escape 574 00:21:20,590 --> 00:21:22,060 or that you don't want to deal with. 575 00:21:22,060 --> 00:21:24,400 Or in the case of White people the validation 576 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:24,670 right? 577 00:21:24,820 --> 00:21:26,920 Right or the or the validation. 578 00:21:26,980 --> 00:21:28,780 I acknowledge that a couple years ago I was 579 00:21:28,780 --> 00:21:30,130 like I've got Master syndrome 580 00:21:30,130 --> 00:21:34,090 right I don't know if that's a thing. 581 00:21:34,090 --> 00:21:38,740 I found myself like looking for that 582 00:21:38,740 --> 00:21:41,410 validation in White men right. Like I needed them 583 00:21:41,410 --> 00:21:44,890 to find me attractive to fuck me hard to like to 584 00:21:45,010 --> 00:21:47,860 to go there in order for me to feel desirable or 585 00:21:47,860 --> 00:21:48,760 sexy. 586 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,950 And I'm trying very hard to dismantle that 587 00:21:50,950 --> 00:21:51,520 thinking. 588 00:21:51,630 --> 00:21:54,240 I'm certainly one of those black guys who for 589 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:59,190 a time saw validation in Whiteness and so I 590 00:21:59,190 --> 00:22:01,290 always pursued White men always felt more 591 00:22:01,290 --> 00:22:02,820 flattered when a White man thought I was 592 00:22:02,820 --> 00:22:04,560 attractive and I realised just how 593 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,470 colonised that thinking is. I think sexual racism 594 00:22:07,470 --> 00:22:09,120 is a thing and I think it's something that we 595 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:11,250 have to grapple with both as people of colour but 596 00:22:11,250 --> 00:22:13,260 also that White men really need to get their 597 00:22:13,260 --> 00:22:16,050 head around that all of our desires our 598 00:22:16,050 --> 00:22:18,240 preferences they come from somewhere right? 599 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,190 We don't exist in a vacuum. I've written about this 600 00:22:20,190 --> 00:22:23,250 before you know this this idea that we somehow 601 00:22:23,250 --> 00:22:25,830 arrive at our desires without any input from 602 00:22:25,830 --> 00:22:28,350 the external world is wildly inaccurate. 603 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,190 And I think people are really scared to confront 604 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,120 sexual racism because they see themselves as 605 00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:36,340 not racist and I think there's also this weird 606 00:22:36,340 --> 00:22:38,650 thing that happens with desire or when it's when 607 00:22:38,650 --> 00:22:41,920 racism is couched in desire it's somehow not 608 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,040 racism, right? But it is right the reduction of 609 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,580 people to their exterior parts to their skin tone 610 00:22:48,580 --> 00:22:51,370 to their blackness to the size of their penis 611 00:22:51,370 --> 00:22:53,290 like that's all racist. 612 00:22:53,380 --> 00:22:56,280 I went through a very public shaming 613 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,520 I lost my job my past was kind of thrown in my 614 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,210 face and I was hurting and I was having these 615 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,070 really beautiful conversations with people who 616 00:23:07,070 --> 00:23:09,690 were kind of rallying around me and as I was 617 00:23:09,790 --> 00:23:11,800 having these conversations, I was like oh my god 618 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,060 people need to hear this right 619 00:23:13,060 --> 00:23:16,640 they need to hear the wonderful collected wisdom 620 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,280 of our community and you know these were 621 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,710 predominantly queer black people who were using 622 00:23:20,710 --> 00:23:24,050 their own life experiences their own mistakes 623 00:23:24,074 --> 00:23:27,169 their own adversity to help bolster me 624 00:23:27,193 --> 00:23:29,193 to say you're gonna get through this 625 00:23:29,217 --> 00:23:30,817 you messed up but you'll get 626 00:23:30,841 --> 00:23:31,941 back up again 627 00:23:31,965 --> 00:23:33,765 take time to heal and just kept giving 628 00:23:33,789 --> 00:23:35,189 me this amazing advice. 629 00:23:35,213 --> 00:23:37,213 You know Busy Being Black is a healing project 630 00:23:37,237 --> 00:23:39,437 its a way for me to connect with my people 631 00:23:39,461 --> 00:23:43,061 and to learn from people about how they are 632 00:23:43,085 --> 00:23:46,285 healing, thriving, living at this kind of 633 00:23:46,309 --> 00:23:49,009 messy intersection of Blackness and queerness. 634 00:23:49,033 --> 00:23:51,033 18 months in and I feel like I'm just 635 00:23:51,057 --> 00:23:53,257 now getting the confidence to say 636 00:23:53,281 --> 00:23:55,281 hey what I've made is actually shit hot 637 00:23:55,305 --> 00:23:56,605 I'm good at this. 638 00:24:00,829 --> 00:24:02,829 We are so honored to be occupying this space 639 00:24:02,853 --> 00:24:04,853 with so many queer people of colour. 640 00:24:04,877 --> 00:24:06,877 Oh my gosh isn't this wonderful 641 00:24:06,901 --> 00:24:10,701 a sea of beautiful Black and Brown faces and allies. 642 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:19,920 UK Black Pride is about people over profits. 643 00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:24,230 UK Black Pride is about recognising that our 644 00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:27,020 personal is political and our political is 645 00:24:27,020 --> 00:24:35,180 personal. UK Black Pride is about love, pain, joy, 646 00:24:35,390 --> 00:24:39,950 success, and you'll find that all in one place. 647 00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:44,210 And that one place is the family. 648 00:24:45,860 --> 00:24:48,770 Being an openly gay police officer was 649 00:24:48,770 --> 00:24:52,790 probably the easiest job I did. I never received 650 00:24:52,850 --> 00:24:59,030 any abuse for being queer because they really don't 651 00:24:59,030 --> 00:25:02,690 care as long as you can do the job as long as 652 00:25:02,690 --> 00:25:04,520 you've got their back when things happen you 653 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,290 could be anything. You could be a green alien. 654 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:07,890 When it comes to the public I only had one 655 00:25:07,890 --> 00:25:11,140 incident and that was on a boxing day night shift 656 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,980 at four o'clock in the morning two people had 657 00:25:13,980 --> 00:25:17,540 really brutally beaten up this person and ran 658 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,400 away and we ran after then I caught one of them and 659 00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:23,420 I sat on him and he said 'Get off me you queer 660 00:25:23,420 --> 00:25:24,530 black bastard.' 661 00:25:26,010 --> 00:25:27,810 I just stayed sitting on him didn't say anything 662 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:28,650 didn't retaliate. 663 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,860 And then I put it in my statement and it wasn't 664 00:25:32,860 --> 00:25:35,470 till the next day the sergeant in control of 665 00:25:35,470 --> 00:25:37,450 the investigation came up to me and said you didn't 666 00:25:37,450 --> 00:25:39,880 arrest him for racially abusing you, I was 667 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,770 like I just thought it was the part of the job. 668 00:25:41,770 --> 00:25:44,710 He's like, no. Is the organisation overall 669 00:25:44,710 --> 00:25:48,400 institutionally racist? Yeah, it is. Definitely. 670 00:25:50,650 --> 00:25:53,320 Do you know if I wasn't a queer person of colour, I 671 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,260 wouldn't be so outspoken. I wouldn't have craft 672 00:25:56,260 --> 00:25:59,230 myself into an entrepreneur. I very much 673 00:25:59,230 --> 00:26:03,790 believe that being gay has pushed me to have to 674 00:26:03,790 --> 00:26:06,580 say, no one is going to help you. You're going to 675 00:26:06,580 --> 00:26:09,280 have to do this yourself. So it's very much crafted 676 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,410 and moulded who I am today. I mean, that's 677 00:26:11,410 --> 00:26:13,660 also why I'm part of Black Pride. And it's 678 00:26:13,660 --> 00:26:15,040 really hard when you've got people saying there 679 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,570 shouldn't be a Black Pride. Why do you have a 680 00:26:16,570 --> 00:26:17,200 Black Pride? 681 00:26:17,220 --> 00:26:19,530 If we lived in an ideal world we wouldn't need 682 00:26:19,530 --> 00:26:23,520 Prides. But we do. We don't live in an ideal 683 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,420 world. We have racism, we have Islamophobia. We 684 00:26:27,420 --> 00:26:30,660 have so many forms of discrimination. And 685 00:26:30,660 --> 00:26:33,430 that's why UK Black Pride is needed. 686 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,040 When we rise. 687 00:26:41,670 --> 00:26:45,570 I wish I got involved in the community when I was 688 00:26:45,570 --> 00:26:48,780 younger. I'm 33 now I think if I just had the 689 00:26:48,780 --> 00:26:50,910 community around me when I was a bit younger and 690 00:26:50,910 --> 00:26:53,370 I could relate things to people without having to 691 00:26:53,370 --> 00:26:56,430 think about it myself in my bedroom and think this 692 00:26:56,430 --> 00:26:58,250 is just the way it is that's just not just the 693 00:26:58,350 --> 00:27:00,250 way it is and there's people that can help. 694 00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:02,950 You know that understand what you're going through. 695 00:27:03,500 --> 00:27:23,430 UK Black Pride. 696 00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:28,880 Yeah cuz like I haven't come out to my parents 697 00:27:29,060 --> 00:27:30,980 but like, I mean my siblings like I think 698 00:27:30,980 --> 00:27:33,080 they have like an inkling that I'm queer because 699 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,700 like, I'm just queer. 700 00:27:34,900 --> 00:27:37,360 If I were to give anyone advice, I would probably 701 00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:42,040 say, to not feel the need or pressure to tell 702 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,970 everyone right away. I when I was younger made a 703 00:27:45,970 --> 00:27:47,860 pact with myself that I would come out of the 704 00:27:47,860 --> 00:27:49,360 closet even though I didn't know what that 705 00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:52,480 meant. When I was older and lived on my own and 706 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,040 finished my school and was financially 707 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,220 independent. It wasn't until my parents asked me 708 00:27:57,220 --> 00:28:00,040 at 19 which was on my timeline, seven years too 709 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,140 early that I just decided to just get it 710 00:28:02,140 --> 00:28:04,270 over with right away. The beautiful thing is people 711 00:28:04,270 --> 00:28:05,620 have the internet and people are not telling 712 00:28:05,620 --> 00:28:07,450 their stories. So it's like you don't have to 713 00:28:07,450 --> 00:28:09,370 learn from your own mistakes. I think it's 714 00:28:09,370 --> 00:28:10,930 really important to do the research now that 715 00:28:10,930 --> 00:28:14,770 it's available to learn that you are valid. You 716 00:28:14,770 --> 00:28:19,210 are allowed to be queer, you are not a disrespect 717 00:28:19,210 --> 00:28:21,280 to your family. You are a completely and 718 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,770 unconditionally lovable and if other people don't 719 00:28:23,770 --> 00:28:25,780 immediately show you that, that you will find 720 00:28:25,780 --> 00:28:27,550 those people who make you believe again in your 721 00:28:27,550 --> 00:28:30,190 life. To like learn that as a fundamental pillar 722 00:28:30,190 --> 00:28:32,620 of courage and strength before you start coming 723 00:28:32,650 --> 00:28:34,030 out to people who don't have your best interest 724 00:28:34,060 --> 00:28:34,840 during that moment. 725 00:28:35,020 --> 00:28:36,910 It has been a dream of mine to collaborate with 726 00:28:36,910 --> 00:28:39,310 the Tate in any capacity and the fact that they've 727 00:28:39,310 --> 00:28:41,950 allowed us to like throw a Hungama as well as do 728 00:28:41,950 --> 00:28:45,580 an LGBT night as well as celebrate Sridevi is like 729 00:28:45,700 --> 00:28:48,970 beyond my imagination. And so I thank you from 730 00:28:48,970 --> 00:28:51,400 the bottom of my heart. And I just want to say 731 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,650 that tonight is not just about us. It's not just 732 00:28:53,650 --> 00:28:56,770 about the LGBT community. It is about Sridevi and 733 00:28:56,770 --> 00:28:58,690 it also is about her Perdes Simplay who passed 734 00:28:58,690 --> 00:29:01,540 away last week. He ran Saathi for 18 years in 735 00:29:01,540 --> 00:29:04,570 Birmingham. He was a legend. I never met him, 736 00:29:04,690 --> 00:29:07,120 but he always messaged me with nothing but support. 737 00:29:07,210 --> 00:29:09,070 And he's like Hungama's great. Keep doing it. And 738 00:29:09,070 --> 00:29:11,050 when I found out he passed away, I was 739 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,320 devastated. Because like, the earth lost an angel. 740 00:29:14,620 --> 00:29:16,150 And so tonight we celebrate for him, okay? 741 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,090 For me the reason why I came to these events is 742 00:29:31,090 --> 00:29:33,670 because I never really found the safe space 743 00:29:33,850 --> 00:29:37,510 where I am from. Because I live in West London in 744 00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:40,450 Southall it's a very closed off community. And 745 00:29:40,450 --> 00:29:43,180 growing up I never really knew anyone else who was 746 00:29:43,180 --> 00:29:46,240 queer like me. So it was really tough trying to 747 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,640 find trying to find somewhere where I felt 748 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,340 like I could accept my identity as 749 00:29:51,570 --> 00:29:53,370 bisexual as well as being Indian. 750 00:29:53,570 --> 00:29:56,090 You'd be doing me a bad favour if you didn't 751 00:29:56,090 --> 00:29:59,060 follow him on Instagram. Battyman Arun. 752 00:29:59,084 --> 00:30:01,084 Battyman Arun. 753 00:30:02,330 --> 00:30:04,940 Once you go through all of that oppression and 754 00:30:04,940 --> 00:30:06,830 all the challenges and obstacles of coming out 755 00:30:07,070 --> 00:30:09,200 and trying to find your community it is so 756 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,330 devastating to walk into the doors of places that 757 00:30:11,330 --> 00:30:13,040 you're supposed to be welcomed, and still feel 758 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,250 alone. Like it's like getting to the end of a 759 00:30:16,250 --> 00:30:20,120 desert and when you find that like small fountain 760 00:30:20,140 --> 00:30:20,790 of water 761 00:30:20,810 --> 00:30:23,840 realising it just run dry like is it can be really 762 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:24,380 harrowing. 763 00:30:25,140 --> 00:30:28,020 And then after the first song, we go into each 764 00:30:28,020 --> 00:30:29,940 song you don't know what they are 765 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,390 performing your hardest, live your best Madhuri 766 00:30:32,390 --> 00:30:33,170 Dixit life. 767 00:30:33,660 --> 00:30:35,100 Live your best Aishwarya life. 768 00:30:35,550 --> 00:30:37,650 Live your best Sridevi life. 769 00:30:37,700 --> 00:30:40,790 Live your best life. 770 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:42,960 I think it's important for people of colour to 771 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,250 to have their own queer safe spaces because we are 772 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,800 as wonderful as we are different and to pretend 773 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,020 that we're one way to pretend that we're one 774 00:30:52,020 --> 00:30:55,560 genre of music or to pretend that we're one tone 775 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,240 or colour in a room is fools errand. 776 00:30:57,300 --> 00:31:00,810 You need to be who you are. Who you are 777 00:31:01,140 --> 00:31:03,120 is the only way this world's going to change 778 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:03,960 for the better. 779 00:31:11,430 --> 00:31:12,600 I wish my mom was here. 780 00:31:15,060 --> 00:31:17,700 Okay cool. On with the programme. 781 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,030 We are not homophobic. 782 00:31:20,030 --> 00:31:21,900 We are not homophobic. 783 00:31:21,900 --> 00:31:21,920 We are not homophobic. We are not homophobic. 784 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,850 We are not homophobic. 785 00:31:23,874 --> 00:31:25,874 We are not homophobic. 786 00:31:25,898 --> 00:31:27,898 We are not homophobic. 787 00:31:27,922 --> 00:31:29,819 We are not homophobic. 788 00:31:29,820 --> 00:31:31,860 Let kids be kids. 789 00:31:31,860 --> 00:31:32,370 Let kids be kids. 790 00:31:32,370 --> 00:31:33,750 I mean like 791 00:31:35,370 --> 00:31:40,020 she was passing the mic to her child to say our 792 00:31:40,020 --> 00:31:41,250 kids our choice. 793 00:31:42,174 --> 00:31:45,174 A lot of control going on of children. 794 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,290 Very sad. 795 00:31:48,350 --> 00:31:49,670 We are not homophobic. 796 00:31:49,700 --> 00:31:52,370 Do you oppose are you opposed to LGBTQ 797 00:31:52,370 --> 00:31:54,260 relationship education in primary school? 798 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,390 No I've not got a problem with it but you know 799 00:31:57,390 --> 00:31:57,970 I've got - 800 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,710 Humza can I ask you a question? Sorry to 801 00:31:59,710 --> 00:32:00,190 interrupt you. 802 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,850 Sorry he's speaking. 803 00:32:01,874 --> 00:32:03,874 Do you agree with this? 804 00:32:03,898 --> 00:32:05,898 When goldpants crapped his underpants? 805 00:32:07,500 --> 00:32:09,030 You're not letting people speak. 806 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,760 The truth. The truth. The truth about Ferhan Khan. 807 00:32:21,130 --> 00:32:23,530 So Pride is supposed to be an event for everyone 808 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:23,800 right? 809 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:24,400 With wristbands. 810 00:32:24,430 --> 00:32:28,140 Now unfortunately, they're putting profit 811 00:32:28,140 --> 00:32:28,830 before Pride. 812 00:32:29,290 --> 00:32:35,950 Look at they way they're manhandling me because I 813 00:32:36,220 --> 00:32:37,630 haven't got a wristband. 814 00:32:37,900 --> 00:32:38,500 Look at that. 815 00:32:38,540 --> 00:32:39,500 Is this Pride? 816 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,600 This is Pride. It's not about profit 817 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:42,800 It's about the guns isn't it? 818 00:32:42,824 --> 00:32:45,709 It's about the White people telling what people are doing. 819 00:32:47,133 --> 00:32:48,233 For goodness sake. 820 00:32:48,257 --> 00:32:50,009 Look at these guns. 821 00:32:50,010 --> 00:32:51,930 For people that haven't got tickets. 822 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,620 Have you seen that video online? Because 823 00:32:57,100 --> 00:33:00,760 I'm shook by what people have said online. I'm 824 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,940 gonna go to other Prides and show that this is not 825 00:33:03,940 --> 00:33:04,630 who I am. 826 00:33:11,890 --> 00:33:13,900 It's fabulous to be here at the most inclusive 827 00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:14,410 Pride 828 00:33:14,590 --> 00:33:16,480 in history London 2019. 829 00:34:06,004 --> 00:34:07,804 Pride is amazing. 830 00:34:09,328 --> 00:34:10,328 Woooo. 831 00:34:13,152 --> 00:34:15,152 You are so cute. Can I have a kiss? 832 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,820 How racist is the LGBTQ community? 833 00:34:19,150 --> 00:34:21,520 I've experienced it firsthand absolutely. 834 00:34:21,610 --> 00:34:24,730 Definitely through dating apps, in person in bars 835 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,560 in gyms, everywhere. 836 00:34:26,590 --> 00:34:27,850 So what do you think about cultural 837 00:34:27,850 --> 00:34:28,510 appropriation? 838 00:34:29,830 --> 00:34:30,940 I love your T-shirt. 839 00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:33,370 Tell us what's your favourite sexual 840 00:34:33,370 --> 00:34:34,870 position or need we ask? 841 00:34:34,900 --> 00:34:36,610 What do you think of the protests going on in 842 00:34:36,610 --> 00:34:37,330 Birmingham? 843 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,100 We need to start with inclusive education from 844 00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:43,060 the very beginning. 845 00:34:43,180 --> 00:34:45,580 A lot of fear is based upon ignorance so you 846 00:34:45,580 --> 00:34:47,050 know the people who are protesting I'd 847 00:34:47,050 --> 00:34:49,510 encouraged them to educate themselves and 848 00:34:49,510 --> 00:34:50,980 love and live and let live. 849 00:34:51,010 --> 00:34:53,170 I think at the end of the day we gotta express 850 00:34:53,170 --> 00:34:53,890 this with love. 851 00:35:04,250 --> 00:35:06,680 Parents are protesting against kids being taught 852 00:35:06,770 --> 00:35:08,000 not to be homophobic. 853 00:35:08,024 --> 00:35:09,024 Oh fuck them. 854 00:35:09,048 --> 00:35:10,699 You wanna lick pussy lick pussy. 855 00:35:10,723 --> 00:35:11,299 You wanna do this do that. 856 00:35:11,300 --> 00:35:14,010 You wanna suck dick? Suck fucking dick. 857 00:35:14,010 --> 00:35:15,930 Brrrraap. 858 00:35:17,955 --> 00:35:19,955 Pop your number in my fucking phone. 859 00:35:21,780 --> 00:35:24,910 I'm not gonna lie I'm a little a bit nervous today. 860 00:35:24,910 --> 00:35:28,540 I'll tell you why. I got a whole Channel 4 team 861 00:35:28,550 --> 00:35:30,830 filming this for national TV innit so 862 00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:33,110 I'm low key bricking it a little bit. 863 00:35:34,234 --> 00:35:36,234 Yeah so I'm presenting a documentary on 864 00:35:36,258 --> 00:35:37,858 young people's mental health 865 00:35:37,882 --> 00:35:41,582 and this night is just incredibly important for 866 00:35:41,606 --> 00:35:44,406 platforming conversations and creative ways of 867 00:35:44,430 --> 00:35:46,430 expressing a conversation about this topic. 868 00:35:47,254 --> 00:35:49,254 We are holy 869 00:35:49,778 --> 00:35:54,978 We are holy in liquid size and sweat soaked skin 870 00:35:55,002 --> 00:35:57,002 I cannot tell 871 00:35:57,020 --> 00:36:00,500 where she ends and I begin as love interweaves 872 00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:03,680 through estuaries of limb in this tapestry of 873 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:08,720 brown. It is not a sin, it is a call to prayer 874 00:36:08,720 --> 00:36:13,430 wherever my name leaves her lips with devotion. 875 00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:18,980 I know that God is here. Whenever I am with her, 876 00:36:18,980 --> 00:36:21,050 I know that God is here. 877 00:36:22,980 --> 00:36:25,410 By opening up too much, sometimes we can kind of 878 00:36:25,410 --> 00:36:28,200 like be more vulnerable than you you're prepared 879 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,210 to be. Yeah, I mean, I felt like that when I 880 00:36:30,210 --> 00:36:32,100 first came out in the scene at the age of 15 / 881 00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:35,490 16 years old, things weren't great at home, I 882 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,250 came out and that didn't go down so well with my 883 00:36:38,250 --> 00:36:40,710 family. So I needed a community just to like 884 00:36:40,710 --> 00:36:44,460 embrace me and love me and just be be where I 885 00:36:44,460 --> 00:36:46,500 could find a home and I thought that was the 886 00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:49,770 LGBTQ community in Glasgow in London. But 887 00:36:49,770 --> 00:36:52,920 unfortunately what I experienced wasn't the 888 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,740 cultural understanding that I needed, the racial 889 00:36:55,740 --> 00:36:57,750 understanding the understanding of my lived 890 00:36:57,750 --> 00:37:01,080 experience of racism up to that point at school 891 00:37:01,110 --> 00:37:03,570 you know because I had come with those traumas 892 00:37:03,570 --> 00:37:06,420 and the White people that I was meeting on those in 893 00:37:06,420 --> 00:37:08,730 the LGBTQ community weren't able to 894 00:37:08,730 --> 00:37:11,970 understand that trauma, you know, but if we're 895 00:37:11,970 --> 00:37:14,310 prepared with the information empowered 896 00:37:14,310 --> 00:37:15,990 with the information, we can actually really, 897 00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:16,890 really help each other. 898 00:37:16,890 --> 00:37:19,920 So much, there's so much potential for healing so 899 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,660 much but I think you're right it's just not 900 00:37:21,660 --> 00:37:24,000 being scared to have those conversations. 901 00:37:24,030 --> 00:37:25,110 Hey. 902 00:37:25,134 --> 00:37:26,234 Hello hello. 903 00:37:26,258 --> 00:37:27,604 Hey. 904 00:37:27,605 --> 00:37:28,865 How's it going? This is Phoenix. 905 00:37:28,889 --> 00:37:30,029 We brought guests. 906 00:37:30,030 --> 00:37:31,129 Hi Phoenix. 907 00:37:31,153 --> 00:37:33,153 Say hello. 908 00:37:33,177 --> 00:37:35,177 Hi babe. 909 00:37:35,290 --> 00:37:36,300 Prides. 910 00:37:36,330 --> 00:37:38,105 Okay so you haven't been to any of the Prides yet 911 00:37:38,129 --> 00:37:39,099 have you? 912 00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:40,390 No I literally missed all of it. 913 00:37:40,690 --> 00:37:41,740 You gotta go to Bi Pride. 914 00:37:41,741 --> 00:37:42,859 Bi Pride's coming up. 915 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,620 Wait, there's a Bi Pride? 916 00:37:44,660 --> 00:37:46,940 I met Ferhan at the protests at the 917 00:37:46,940 --> 00:37:48,590 Birmingham Protests. Amazing. I was just like, 918 00:37:48,590 --> 00:37:50,840 Oh my God, just just the way you actually just 919 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,400 just spoke to them and confronted them,but it 920 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,170 wasn't like patronising it was just like just 921 00:37:54,170 --> 00:37:55,820 straightforward questions and they 922 00:37:55,820 --> 00:37:57,920 revealed their own prejudices and it was 923 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:58,760 just great to see that. 924 00:37:58,760 --> 00:37:59,630 It's like when you catch at bitch out. 925 00:37:59,670 --> 00:38:01,410 And the next day you was at Birmingham Pride. 926 00:38:01,430 --> 00:38:03,730 Birmingham Pride wanted to promote the message of 927 00:38:03,730 --> 00:38:06,080 inclusion and have Muslims queer Muslims 928 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,790 like us just at the front. The rest of the 929 00:38:07,790 --> 00:38:09,630 queer Muslims were doiing 930 00:38:09,630 --> 00:38:11,490 interviews. So I thought you know what 931 00:38:11,490 --> 00:38:13,020 I'm quite bored here I don't know anyone. 932 00:38:13,020 --> 00:38:15,960 So I'm gonna leave. So I just went up to the security guard 933 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,960 and said I'm just going to go but is there anyway 934 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,370 I can get a wristband just to come back in later on? 935 00:38:20,394 --> 00:38:21,069 Oh okay. 936 00:38:21,070 --> 00:38:23,830 So then they cottoned on that I didn't have a wristband. 937 00:38:23,854 --> 00:38:27,454 I saw you go in and I knew that you had access 938 00:38:27,460 --> 00:38:29,280 so when I saw the video I was just like what? 939 00:38:29,620 --> 00:38:31,780 Maybe I was resistant to leaving I guess you 940 00:38:31,780 --> 00:38:34,900 know, but I don't think that I deserve to have my 941 00:38:34,900 --> 00:38:38,110 head caught in a headlock. And for my face 942 00:38:38,140 --> 00:38:40,750 to be smashed against the floor of the concrete. 943 00:38:40,780 --> 00:38:43,270 Now the protesters are using that ammunition and 944 00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:45,520 saying okay well this is your activist. This is 945 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:46,610 what the gay community is. 946 00:38:46,660 --> 00:38:48,540 You see that's what's so irritating about these 947 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,890 protests is that no one's teaching these like five 948 00:38:50,890 --> 00:38:53,110 year old children about like gay sex they're 949 00:38:53,140 --> 00:38:55,360 telling you that this is what is out there in the 950 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,910 world. You can't hide truth from children. 951 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,840 It's also understanding like that we need to be 952 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,540 teaching our children how to love healthily and 953 00:39:03,540 --> 00:39:05,790 that love manifests in all different ways and 954 00:39:05,790 --> 00:39:08,250 we can love each other in so many different ways. 955 00:39:08,274 --> 00:39:10,399 And that's it. It's such a basic concept. 956 00:39:10,700 --> 00:39:14,450 That becomes politicised and used to oppress. 957 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,840 Because we touched on escapism and how that 958 00:39:16,870 --> 00:39:19,240 like can take place in so many different forms like 959 00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:22,450 drugs but actually how we can escape ourselves 960 00:39:22,450 --> 00:39:25,270 through Whiteness is real you know and 961 00:39:25,270 --> 00:39:27,640 trying to like be anything but what we are 962 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,920 in a White world through loving someone who's 963 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,920 White and trying to like like for me I was with 964 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,860 you know I've only had White partners really 965 00:39:35,890 --> 00:39:37,870 and like like as in in terms of committed long 966 00:39:37,870 --> 00:39:38,710 term relationships. 967 00:39:38,890 --> 00:39:40,870 I mean I've just been a slag all my life so I 968 00:39:40,870 --> 00:39:47,140 don't discriminate. Brown, Black, green, yellow. 969 00:39:48,410 --> 00:39:50,960 I grew up in a very Asian area, maybe if I'd been 970 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,790 put up in a White area then I would have just 971 00:39:52,850 --> 00:39:56,000 gravitated towards who was local to me. For me. 972 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,130 I've always had Asian partners like right from 973 00:39:58,130 --> 00:39:58,910 the get go. 974 00:39:59,090 --> 00:40:01,490 I am breaking this stereotype within my head 975 00:40:01,490 --> 00:40:05,390 this urge within me to like go after someone I 976 00:40:05,420 --> 00:40:08,240 was socialised to find attractive someone light 977 00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:10,670 skinned you know I'm challenging myself. 978 00:40:10,670 --> 00:40:11,030 Do you think 979 00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:13,190 it's rebellious in a way? Are you doing it 980 00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:15,140 out of protest? 981 00:40:15,140 --> 00:40:17,990 You know it unfortunately is but it's the most 982 00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:19,310 rewarding protest I've ever done. 983 00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:22,310 Well I'm sure it was after what I heard about 984 00:40:22,340 --> 00:40:23,390 a certain someone. 985 00:40:24,590 --> 00:40:27,050 You know with Rainbow Films I did a 986 00:40:27,050 --> 00:40:28,910 little interview with this very very 987 00:40:28,910 --> 00:40:30,600 attractive Black guy. 988 00:40:30,650 --> 00:40:34,570 Good for you man you gotta do what you gotta do. 989 00:40:34,730 --> 00:40:37,820 We chatted a little while after that and he came 990 00:40:37,820 --> 00:40:40,430 over here. That's right. That's the tea. He came 991 00:40:40,430 --> 00:40:43,220 over here. We had sex right here outside in the 992 00:40:43,220 --> 00:40:43,490 garden. 993 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:44,360 On this table? 994 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,720 No just underneath on the floor and then like we 995 00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:49,580 were rolling around and then he took me upstairs 996 00:40:49,790 --> 00:40:52,790 and he gives me the most intense anal orgasm I've 997 00:40:52,910 --> 00:40:54,140 ever had in my life. 998 00:40:54,140 --> 00:40:57,230 Well let's cheers to Ferhan's sexual 999 00:40:57,230 --> 00:40:58,070 emancipation. 1000 00:40:58,094 --> 00:40:59,494 Yes. 1001 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,200 When we rise, it's about community. It's about 1002 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,040 love. 1003 00:41:13,790 --> 00:41:16,910 UK Black Pride is a political statement. It 1004 00:41:16,910 --> 00:41:20,030 is by us and it for us. 1005 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:20,510 Aaron. 1006 00:41:20,510 --> 00:41:21,080 Hi Aaron. Shahmir. 1007 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,040 How are you alright? 1008 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,630 Together we are Mar/Comms. 1009 00:41:23,720 --> 00:41:25,370 We're Mar/Comms of UK Black Pride. 1010 00:41:25,370 --> 00:41:25,790 OK sick. 1011 00:41:25,790 --> 00:41:26,540 Here goes. 1012 00:41:26,540 --> 00:41:29,390 She's ready. That didn't take long. 1013 00:41:31,070 --> 00:41:33,650 From a comms perspective. Like I'm always answering 1014 00:41:33,650 --> 00:41:35,900 the question like why UK Black Pride is important. 1015 00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:38,210 And the only people who asked that question have 1016 00:41:38,210 --> 00:41:41,330 never been to UK Black Pride. And you can tell 1017 00:41:41,690 --> 00:41:43,400 because people who've been would never ask that 1018 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,090 question. If I didn't define myself for myself. 1019 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,090 I would be crunched into other people's fantasies 1020 00:41:50,090 --> 00:41:51,740 for me and eaten alive. 1021 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,940 Maybe I should just say that. Yes, Lord, 1022 00:41:56,030 --> 00:41:57,020 Mashallah. 1023 00:41:59,420 --> 00:42:01,130 Babe I cried at first UK Black Pride. 1024 00:42:01,130 --> 00:42:02,360 That's because you're a faggot. 1025 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,970 Okay guilty. Yeah also because 1026 00:42:07,970 --> 00:42:08,660 I'm just kidding. 1027 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,990 But also because seeing all those like Black and 1028 00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:14,780 Brown bodies was so intense. When we get into 1029 00:42:14,780 --> 00:42:19,340 that space that is so healing that like I 1030 00:42:19,340 --> 00:42:21,350 don't think anyone brings trauma with them into the 1031 00:42:21,350 --> 00:42:24,170 UK Black Pride space. Whereas with mainstream 1032 00:42:24,170 --> 00:42:26,480 Prides we're kind of we never get to let our 1033 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,700 guard down. Also at UK Black Pride you don't 1034 00:42:28,700 --> 00:42:30,890 have to wave a rainbow banner to be there. Yeah. 1035 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,110 Whereas like with mainstream Prides and 1036 00:42:33,110 --> 00:42:35,690 not just in the UK but all over the world. Like 1037 00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:37,130 it seems like a prerequisite for 1038 00:42:37,130 --> 00:42:40,010 celebration that you're covered in rainbows and 1039 00:42:40,010 --> 00:42:42,140 actually what we see UK Black Pride is a 1040 00:42:42,140 --> 00:42:44,300 demonstration of culture. 1041 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,750 Mario Mieli suggests that homosexuality is natural 1042 00:42:47,750 --> 00:42:50,120 because it's a form of self love. Like of 1043 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,790 course you'd be attracted to the same sex 1044 00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:54,260 because you love yourself. 1045 00:42:54,350 --> 00:42:56,930 Like there's so much discord in our community. 1046 00:42:57,530 --> 00:42:59,840 And that's not just across 1047 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,230 racial lines but it's across gender and gender 1048 00:43:03,230 --> 00:43:05,720 identity and I think there's so much division. 1049 00:43:05,900 --> 00:43:07,730 We want everyone to come to UK Black Pride. 1050 00:43:08,710 --> 00:43:11,770 I think it's important to have allies there at UK 1051 00:43:11,770 --> 00:43:13,720 Black Pride but I also think it's important for 1052 00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:16,600 allies to recognise that for us as queer Black 1053 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:21,580 and Brown and Asian and non White people that it 1054 00:43:21,580 --> 00:43:25,060 is so rare for us to have a space where we can 1055 00:43:25,060 --> 00:43:27,670 truly be ourselves. 1056 00:43:29,940 --> 00:43:33,510 I believe that telling our stories first to 1057 00:43:33,510 --> 00:43:36,450 ourselves and then to one another and the 1058 00:43:36,450 --> 00:43:41,880 world is a revolutionary act. Growing up I've 1059 00:43:42,450 --> 00:43:46,740 been policed a lot about the way I present myself. 1060 00:43:47,100 --> 00:43:52,800 It's not been the easiest to fit into society's 1061 00:43:52,830 --> 00:43:56,100 norms or ideals of what a person should look like 1062 00:43:56,130 --> 00:43:59,790 or behave like our appear like and being a 1063 00:43:59,820 --> 00:44:02,280 Bollywood dancer that comes with added 1064 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,950 difficulties because Bollywood as an industry 1065 00:44:04,980 --> 00:44:08,880 is very heteronormative. There are a lot of toxic 1066 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,160 narratives queer characters aren't given 1067 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,130 that sort of privilege and that sort of respect 1068 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,760 to be full fledged characters. They are seen 1069 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,690 as almost caricatures and for comic relief. So it's 1070 00:44:21,690 --> 00:44:24,300 all about questioning and challenging that through 1071 00:44:24,300 --> 00:44:28,080 performance and art. And that's what we did 1072 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,000 through the London School of Bollywood which I'm 1073 00:44:30,030 --> 00:44:32,820 which I'm a part of and we went on to Britain's 1074 00:44:32,820 --> 00:44:35,010 Got Talent we addressed gender fluidity we 1075 00:44:35,010 --> 00:44:37,740 brought that to the forefront using dance. 1076 00:44:38,070 --> 00:44:41,730 And we did get backlash. Yes because 1077 00:44:42,180 --> 00:44:45,750 understandable I guess because people aren't 1078 00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:48,570 used to this kind of visibility. But honestly 1079 00:44:48,750 --> 00:44:51,390 the love and the positive feedback that we got 1080 00:44:51,420 --> 00:44:54,930 trumped it all we had judges standing up we had 1081 00:44:54,990 --> 00:44:57,480 audience members standing up we've had people from 1082 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,560 all across the world send messages of Support. I've 1083 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,950 had loads of people come up to me sharing their 1084 00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:07,950 personal stories coming out to me and sort of 1085 00:45:07,950 --> 00:45:10,470 finding comfort in that visibility that we were 1086 00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:12,660 able to create through our dance. 1087 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,340 Shall we change it up me on top? 1088 00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:18,740 So just a couple more. 1089 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,110 That's nice actually. 1090 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,720 Well as South Asians we just don't even mention 1091 00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:32,910 those subjects we don't talk about sex sexuality 1092 00:45:32,910 --> 00:45:36,090 mental health and that's a problem. Me Him Us 1093 00:45:36,090 --> 00:45:39,030 that's testing for me to protect me testing for 1094 00:45:39,030 --> 00:45:42,230 him to protect him the partner and protecting us. 1095 00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:44,100 All of us. It's like some important for our 1096 00:45:44,100 --> 00:45:46,140 community to like come together. I don't think 1097 00:45:46,140 --> 00:45:48,840 we do that enough. We're too busy like bickering. 1098 00:45:49,530 --> 00:45:52,110 Well exactly like this Photoshoot today means a 1099 00:45:52,110 --> 00:45:54,480 lot to me because it's like we're just showing 1100 00:45:54,630 --> 00:45:56,010 that we can be intimate with each other. 1101 00:45:56,010 --> 00:45:56,310 Yeah. 1102 00:45:56,310 --> 00:45:57,920 An that can be on on billboards across the city. 1103 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,210 Like how often do you see South Asian queer love. 1104 00:46:01,140 --> 00:46:02,910 I've never seen it. I don't know if you saw I'm 1105 00:46:02,910 --> 00:46:03,870 gonna be on a panel. 1106 00:46:03,900 --> 00:46:05,810 I did. I'm so excited for you. 1107 00:46:05,890 --> 00:46:07,810 And I need your advice because you've been on 1108 00:46:07,810 --> 00:46:09,950 like you're like famous 'I'm on panels everywhere ' 1109 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,790 I'll give you it all, I'll spill the tea. 1110 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,520 So what do I do? I'm so nervous. 1111 00:46:15,540 --> 00:46:17,460 You're such a smart intelligent guy you're 1112 00:46:17,460 --> 00:46:20,420 gonna be really good at it I really believe in you. 1113 00:46:20,490 --> 00:46:23,280 Oh it's just like so I'm talking about like, 1114 00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:25,890 bisexuality and being a person of colour and that 1115 00:46:25,890 --> 00:46:28,260 like intersection in it all. Like when you start 1116 00:46:28,260 --> 00:46:30,150 talking about this kind of stuff every time I 1117 00:46:30,150 --> 00:46:32,820 have I upsetting people. 1118 00:46:32,930 --> 00:46:35,690 If I know anyone that knows bisexuality and the 1119 00:46:35,690 --> 00:46:37,370 intricacies of that it's you. 1120 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:38,720 I don't shut up about it. 1121 00:46:40,220 --> 00:46:42,260 Wow, she thinks she's gonna have a problem 1122 00:46:42,590 --> 00:46:44,480 going on stage taking about it? Like it's a 1123 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,070 problem stopping you talking about it. 1124 00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:48,890 So obviously the family situation is very tense. 1125 00:46:48,950 --> 00:46:51,230 And I don't want people to like jump on me like 1126 00:46:51,230 --> 00:46:52,490 if I see something wrong. 1127 00:46:52,660 --> 00:46:55,210 When I went to Birmingham and I encountered the 1128 00:46:55,210 --> 00:46:57,880 protesters in Birmingham. I got some backlash from 1129 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,310 the Muslim community like why are you disagreeing 1130 00:47:00,310 --> 00:47:02,230 with these protesters? Why are you sexualising 1131 00:47:02,230 --> 00:47:04,750 our children? You're gonna face this backlash. 1132 00:47:04,780 --> 00:47:07,800 That's what makes us so strong and brave and beautiful. 1133 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,210 I'm just gonna lean on you and be like help me. 1134 00:47:10,290 --> 00:47:12,300 I've got you I've got you sister. Yeah. 1135 00:47:19,590 --> 00:47:22,380 Right so we're here at Philly's place. 1136 00:47:24,070 --> 00:47:27,730 She wants to shoot today about your alter egos. 1137 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,320 And in this case I'm kind of doing like a Desi 1138 00:47:32,350 --> 00:47:33,130 superhero. 1139 00:47:47,580 --> 00:47:51,360 I'd rather it looks strong, bold masculine. 1140 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:53,580 Cool. 1141 00:47:54,090 --> 00:47:55,650 Basically everything that I'm not. 1142 00:47:58,050 --> 00:48:00,270 Like that please. I was planning on doing this 1143 00:48:00,270 --> 00:48:04,110 shoot yeah. I was gonna get Vaneet and Ferhan to 1144 00:48:04,110 --> 00:48:07,860 kiss in different high streets and then get 1145 00:48:07,860 --> 00:48:08,730 people's reactions. 1146 00:48:08,730 --> 00:48:13,270 Like you'd risk probably getting beaten up, no? 1147 00:48:13,270 --> 00:48:14,330 Is there that? 1148 00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:17,310 But I mean the fact that you just said that says 1149 00:48:17,310 --> 00:48:17,820 it all innit. 1150 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,780 Yeah, totally. I get scared because I'm just 1151 00:48:20,780 --> 00:48:22,950 like what do we have to do to prove 1152 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:23,960 I personally wouldn't do it I'd shit it. 1153 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,540 But then obviously Ferhan and Vaneet are quite bold 1154 00:48:26,540 --> 00:48:27,990 in that sense. 1155 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,680 So they probably would do. So I'm gonna talk to 1156 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:30,220 them about it. 1157 00:48:31,620 --> 00:48:32,850 Hey babe, where are you at? 1158 00:48:32,900 --> 00:48:34,640 I'm outside the building. 1159 00:48:34,700 --> 00:48:36,410 Okay, cool. I'm just gonna I'm just gonna send 1160 00:48:36,410 --> 00:48:37,430 Philly to come and get you yeah? 1161 00:48:38,380 --> 00:48:40,000 If you just come round if you just come round the 1162 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,410 front Philly's gonna come out now. 1163 00:48:42,490 --> 00:48:43,210 Okay he's Philly. 1164 00:48:43,300 --> 00:48:44,680 Okay wicked cheers. 1165 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:47,960 Go on. 1166 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,220 You're not gonna be kissing your little 1167 00:48:49,220 --> 00:48:51,290 boyfriend on the street I've got a fucking son. 1168 00:48:51,980 --> 00:48:54,290 You're not gonna do it no you're not. You do that 1169 00:48:54,290 --> 00:48:55,310 behind closed doors. 1170 00:48:55,540 --> 00:48:57,040 Do you think we're gonna stop now you said. 1171 00:48:57,100 --> 00:48:57,850 You do what you want. 1172 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,210 It not something my son's gonna see. My son's not 1173 00:49:01,210 --> 00:49:03,070 gonna grow up like you to think it's right to get 1174 00:49:03,070 --> 00:49:04,210 stabbed in your ass. 1175 00:49:04,570 --> 00:49:05,020 Fucking batty. 1176 00:49:05,020 --> 00:49:05,470 Excuse me? 1177 00:49:05,494 --> 00:49:07,449 Batty boy. 1178 00:49:07,450 --> 00:49:10,390 Philly I feel like the more visible I've gotten, 1179 00:49:10,450 --> 00:49:12,670 the more vulnerable I've gotten to hate crime. 1180 00:49:13,030 --> 00:49:15,700 Coming out as queer on national television 1181 00:49:16,060 --> 00:49:19,090 straight after that I got recognised in the street. 1182 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:25,030 This group of South Asian guys in a car and I'm 1183 00:49:25,030 --> 00:49:27,160 assuming must have been Muslim but they 1184 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:28,930 recognise me so they must have been watching that 1185 00:49:28,930 --> 00:49:33,430 programme. 'Hey, you're that gay bastard.' And 1186 00:49:33,430 --> 00:49:37,000 then they pursued me whilst I was on my bike. 1187 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,000 Which wow okay. 1188 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,980 Yeah they pursued me down the street and then 1189 00:49:39,980 --> 00:49:43,400 they slowed down to like basically just stop and 1190 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,250 hurl abuse at me. I mean they did actually find 1191 00:49:46,250 --> 00:49:49,250 the perpetrator. Okay because I recorded the 1192 00:49:49,250 --> 00:49:49,940 number plate. 1193 00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:50,840 Well done. 1194 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,420 And they took me in for an identity parade but 1195 00:49:53,420 --> 00:49:56,360 get this. Right. So I go to the police station. 1196 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,880 There's two police officers there. The first 1197 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,130 one talks me through the process he says 'you're 1198 00:50:01,130 --> 00:50:02,870 going to do an identity parade it's going to be 1199 00:50:02,870 --> 00:50:05,780 on video.' And I instantly recognise the 1200 00:50:05,780 --> 00:50:06,530 perpetrator. 1201 00:50:06,650 --> 00:50:06,950 Right. 1202 00:50:07,140 --> 00:50:09,210 So I was like oh it's number six police officer 1203 00:50:09,210 --> 00:50:11,040 and he's like 'oh, right you okay sure?' And I was 1204 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,260 like yeah I had a feeling might be number 1205 00:50:13,260 --> 00:50:17,220 ten. But I'm sure it's number six. He like oh 1206 00:50:17,220 --> 00:50:19,680 okay. So then we finish the interview and then we 1207 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,300 take it takes me to another room. He's like 1208 00:50:21,630 --> 00:50:23,940 you identified the correct perpetrator. But 1209 00:50:23,940 --> 00:50:26,040 because you mentioned another perpetrator the 1210 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,990 case has collapsed. We can't take any further 1211 00:50:28,020 --> 00:50:28,440 sorry. 1212 00:50:28,464 --> 00:50:30,369 What? 1213 00:50:30,370 --> 00:50:30,910 Yeah. 1214 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:45,690 Poke my eye out. 1215 00:50:46,714 --> 00:50:48,714 Poke your eye out with what? 1216 00:50:59,790 --> 00:51:02,580 I want to be comfortable with myself publicly 1217 00:51:02,580 --> 00:51:05,130 I want to you know let everyone know that I am 1218 00:51:05,130 --> 00:51:10,050 bi and I love it but I'm just scared of 1219 00:51:10,050 --> 00:51:11,620 the consequences. 1220 00:51:12,750 --> 00:51:14,260 I might not have a home. 1221 00:51:14,620 --> 00:51:20,110 If I literally come out then my parents will 1222 00:51:20,110 --> 00:51:22,930 literally kicking me out if they see this you 1223 00:51:22,930 --> 00:51:25,780 know my Dad he's always just like oh you know 1224 00:51:25,780 --> 00:51:28,270 he's always talking about how he wants this kind of 1225 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,020 perfect life with me and some Indian guy and when 1226 00:51:32,020 --> 00:51:34,030 I was younger and I first came out I got so 1227 00:51:34,030 --> 00:51:36,670 much shit for it. I was literally bullied to 1228 00:51:36,670 --> 00:51:39,160 absolute hell and I finally gotten over that. 1229 00:51:39,370 --> 00:51:41,140 I don't know how I'm supposed to kind of live 1230 00:51:41,140 --> 00:51:43,870 this public life but still somehow hide in my 1231 00:51:43,870 --> 00:51:45,730 own home. I have to sacrifice one or the 1232 00:51:45,730 --> 00:51:48,160 other. And I don't know which one it's going to 1233 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,040 be. I don't know I don't know which one it's going 1234 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,430 to be. I really want to do this. But that's why 1235 00:51:54,430 --> 00:51:56,380 is this so hard because I'm thinking if I do 1236 00:51:56,380 --> 00:51:57,610 this there's no going back. 1237 00:51:58,380 --> 00:51:59,470 Yeah. 1238 00:52:17,590 --> 00:52:20,020 I'm quite excited with what Hungama has managed 1239 00:52:20,020 --> 00:52:23,260 to achieve in the last year. It's been one year 1240 00:52:23,260 --> 00:52:25,270 since I started doing the party monthly and it's 1241 00:52:25,270 --> 00:52:27,430 been maybe a year and a half since I started 1242 00:52:27,430 --> 00:52:30,070 doing the party in general. I basically just 1243 00:52:30,070 --> 00:52:31,390 got to a point where I was working in fashion 1244 00:52:31,390 --> 00:52:33,430 for like almost 8 years and art and I was 1245 00:52:33,430 --> 00:52:36,700 just feeling very like isolated. I felt like the 1246 00:52:36,700 --> 00:52:38,560 only queer person, the only Brown person, the 1247 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,260 only Canadian person. And so I just had a case of 1248 00:52:41,260 --> 00:52:42,880 the fuck its and I was like I'm just gonna 1249 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,560 throw a Bollywood party and I'm just gonna invite 1250 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,050 whoever wants to come that really gave me this 1251 00:52:47,050 --> 00:52:49,780 the foundation to keep doing them even though I 1252 00:52:49,780 --> 00:52:51,400 didn't know if they were going to work. Keep doing 1253 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:52,810 them even though they weren't making money. 1254 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,580 Keep doing them even though I had no idea what 1255 00:52:54,580 --> 00:52:57,310 I was doing. And it was things like yoga, 1256 00:52:57,340 --> 00:53:01,180 meditation, mindfulness. I mean I've taken CBT 1257 00:53:01,180 --> 00:53:03,250 therapy I've like I learned how to meditate 1258 00:53:03,250 --> 00:53:06,940 off YouTube. I listened to podcasts about like 1259 00:53:06,940 --> 00:53:08,410 how to believe in yourself when I go to 1260 00:53:08,410 --> 00:53:11,560 sleep and I thought what better way to finish off 1261 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,250 our series of one year anniversary things than 1262 00:53:15,250 --> 00:53:17,800 by just doing that altogether and actually 1263 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,940 being and collectively sharing that experience. 1264 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,610 I've been singing forever I'm from 1265 00:53:22,610 --> 00:53:26,600 Leicester wasn't really getting anywhere that 1266 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,850 exciting there just being pigeonholed a lot of 1267 00:53:28,850 --> 00:53:30,560 people telling me 'oh we should sing like you know 1268 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,300 Punjabi' but I'm like babes I can't even talk 1269 00:53:32,300 --> 00:53:35,000 it. I don't even know what you want me to do. 1270 00:53:35,270 --> 00:53:39,590 So I like run away moved to London at 17 and I've 1271 00:53:39,590 --> 00:53:43,070 been trying to like carve a lane for myself. And I 1272 00:53:43,070 --> 00:53:44,960 think I really come into my artistry since I've 1273 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,990 found my community of like queer POC queer 1274 00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:51,800 South Asians because it wasn't until I found the 1275 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,290 support of people like me that I felt I could like 1276 00:53:54,290 --> 00:53:56,930 authentically be myself in my music. For a long 1277 00:53:56,930 --> 00:53:59,000 time. I believe or not was pretending that I was 1278 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,620 straight like people were going believe it. 1279 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,440 Honestly it was like yeah because I didn't think 1280 00:54:06,590 --> 00:54:09,680 get signed especially as like a South Asian guy. 1281 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,270 First of all I was trying to pretend I 1282 00:54:11,270 --> 00:54:12,000 wasn't Brown. 1283 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:12,020 wasn't Brown. I was just like I've just got a tan like I'm mixed 1284 00:54:12,020 --> 00:54:14,520 I was just like I've just got a tan like I'm mixed 1285 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:15,540 race. 1286 00:54:18,140 --> 00:54:20,750 I was not a coconut. I just didn't want to 1287 00:54:20,780 --> 00:54:23,720 adhere to a lot of the kind of pressures that 1288 00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:26,180 are put upon me you know being queer like 1289 00:54:26,180 --> 00:54:28,070 you said was out of the question. So I think even 1290 00:54:28,070 --> 00:54:31,850 by me exercising my queerness even as 1291 00:54:31,850 --> 00:54:32,990 pretending to be straight but I just 1292 00:54:32,990 --> 00:54:38,750 couldn't help it. It was it like it was it just 1293 00:54:38,750 --> 00:54:41,210 wasn't it wasn't it wasn't Brown to them. 1294 00:54:41,210 --> 00:54:43,550 That was very you know but then it's so funny 1295 00:54:43,550 --> 00:54:45,200 because the same people that are calling me that 1296 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,210 used to call me coconut I'm now going back home 1297 00:54:47,210 --> 00:54:48,440 and trying to have conversations with them 1298 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,810 about white privilege. And they're like 'no you 1299 00:54:50,810 --> 00:54:53,450 know don't don't rock the boat.' Like first 1300 00:54:53,450 --> 00:54:54,830 like okay I don't understand am I a 1301 00:54:54,830 --> 00:54:57,920 coconut? Or am I a White person hater? Like what 1302 00:54:57,950 --> 00:54:58,880 really is it? 1303 00:54:59,060 --> 00:55:01,700 I'm much more interested in having a conversation with a 1304 00:55:01,700 --> 00:55:04,370 South Asian person my age and ask them why are they 1305 00:55:04,370 --> 00:55:06,260 perpetuating an archetype that doesn't exist in 1306 00:55:06,260 --> 00:55:08,240 their own family homes? Why are they pretending 1307 00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:09,740 they don't drink? Why they pretending they 1308 00:55:09,740 --> 00:55:11,330 don't smoke? Why they pretending they don't 1309 00:55:11,330 --> 00:55:13,520 have sex. I was like because you're actually 1310 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,640 creating a huge unsafe area about like all these 1311 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,170 tripwires that come up when they start doing 1312 00:55:18,170 --> 00:55:20,600 this without proper knowledge without these 1313 00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:22,340 issues actually coming to light. And I was like 1314 00:55:22,340 --> 00:55:24,590 and creativity is when like we as creatives 1315 00:55:24,710 --> 00:55:26,870 learn all this stuff in the trenches. And like 1316 00:55:26,870 --> 00:55:28,310 it's important for us to come together so having 1317 00:55:28,310 --> 00:55:29,210 this conversation. 1318 00:55:29,750 --> 00:55:33,140 Oh my god I loved it so much. When we came in 1319 00:55:33,380 --> 00:55:35,810 there's already so much that we could relate to 1320 00:55:35,810 --> 00:55:37,520 everyone in the room we don't even have to say 1321 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,280 anything and everyone's already had the same you 1322 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,860 know South Asian queer experience the same 1323 00:55:42,860 --> 00:55:44,600 trying to figure out 1324 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,000 themselves. There's such a problem that we face 1325 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,860 with trying to balance our identities with being 1326 00:55:48,860 --> 00:55:51,590 South Asian in Britain and then being queer 1327 00:55:51,590 --> 00:55:53,660 in such a straight environment. So it was 1328 00:55:53,660 --> 00:55:56,240 really nice hearing someone say it out loud. 1329 00:55:56,450 --> 00:55:58,550 And it made me feel like it's okay to be South 1330 00:55:58,550 --> 00:56:01,010 Asian and it's okay to be British. It's okay to be 1331 00:56:01,010 --> 00:56:03,050 both at all times I don't have to tone 1332 00:56:03,050 --> 00:56:05,330 anything down. And I really really like that 1333 00:56:05,330 --> 00:56:08,150 because I want to kind of own that more. 1334 00:56:13,889 --> 00:56:16,379 Standby. Roll camera. 1335 00:56:17,410 --> 00:56:18,150 Action. 1336 00:56:18,220 --> 00:56:18,930 I'm queer. 1337 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,890 I'm here. Closets are for clothes not for people. 1338 00:56:22,980 --> 00:56:25,230 I'm bi what are you gonna do about huh? 1339 00:56:25,230 --> 00:56:26,550 What you gonna do bitch? 1340 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,330 We're here, we're queer we will not live in fear. 1341 00:56:30,630 --> 00:56:31,950 We're here, we're queer. 1342 00:56:32,130 --> 00:56:35,190 I spent so many years suffering in denial. I 1343 00:56:35,190 --> 00:56:37,050 don't want anyone else to experience that pain. 1344 00:56:39,420 --> 00:56:42,840 I'm here. I'm queer. And I'm a Muslim. I exist 1345 00:56:42,990 --> 00:56:43,740 get over it. 1346 00:56:47,620 --> 00:56:50,470 The more we put ourselves out there and the more 1347 00:56:50,500 --> 00:56:53,290 visible we are. The more we can contribute to 1348 00:56:53,290 --> 00:56:56,230 normalising queer people of colour within society. 1349 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,020 You are wearing underwear yeah? 1350 00:56:59,050 --> 00:56:59,950 Huh? Yeah. 1351 00:56:59,980 --> 00:57:02,350 Good. No one wants to see that. 1352 00:57:02,390 --> 00:57:03,770 Don't worry honey it's not for you. 1353 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:07,980 Don't worry honey I don't want it. 1354 00:57:08,450 --> 00:57:09,560 No one's asking. 1355 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:13,970 The shade. 1356 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,360 Basically with Rainbow Films we're in a really 1357 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,370 great position because we're working with a lot 1358 00:57:36,370 --> 00:57:38,380 of community organisations and through 1359 00:57:38,380 --> 00:57:40,060 them I've been able to get in touch with some 1360 00:57:40,060 --> 00:57:43,870 really great people and I think for us we're 1361 00:57:43,870 --> 00:57:46,390 trying to create a platform that enables 1362 00:57:46,390 --> 00:57:50,020 people to have a voice and empowers them and 1363 00:57:50,020 --> 00:57:52,570 it's about visibility about seeing people that 1364 00:57:52,570 --> 00:57:55,120 look like them talk like them from the same 1365 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,540 neighbourhoods and they're living great 1366 00:57:58,540 --> 00:58:01,270 lives. They're living happy lives as open 1367 00:58:01,660 --> 00:58:05,320 people. It's just made me so much more comfortable 1368 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,350 in my skin in terms of my sexuality. It's given me 1369 00:58:08,350 --> 00:58:09,010 a purpose. 1370 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:10,720 It's allowed me to connect with people. 1371 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:10,960 I think so. 1372 00:58:11,350 --> 00:58:14,200 And I just don't feel the shame. I don't feel that 1373 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,770 shame of being out or people know. 1374 00:58:20,810 --> 00:58:23,610 Could we maybe have maybe just silhouettes of crew. 1375 00:58:23,700 --> 00:58:24,510 Yeah. 1376 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,610 With a boom pole and a camera and stuff. 1377 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,090 I'm extending his love to you here today. 1378 00:58:39,090 --> 00:58:41,090 Giving you the opportunity to repent. 1379 00:58:42,860 --> 00:58:44,600 What can I do to repent for you? 1380 00:58:45,470 --> 00:58:46,730 Turn to Jesus Christ. 1381 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:47,090 Yeah? 1382 00:58:47,150 --> 00:58:48,530 And renounce homosexuality. 1383 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,670 Why is that a problem for Jesus Christ. 1384 00:58:50,770 --> 00:58:51,830 Because it's a sin. 1385 00:58:51,930 --> 00:58:53,840 Where does it say it's a sin? 1386 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:55,830 First Corinthians. 1387 00:58:55,830 --> 00:58:56,920 Yep. 1388 00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,980 And chapter six from verse nine. 1389 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:00,670 Read it to me. 1390 00:59:00,694 --> 00:59:02,794 Show me exactly where it says it's a sin. 1391 00:59:02,870 --> 00:59:04,040 Do you wanna read it together? 1392 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:05,080 I can't read. 1393 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,850 It says do you not know that the unrighteous will 1394 00:59:07,850 --> 00:59:10,170 not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be 1395 00:59:10,170 --> 00:59:12,530 deceived. In other words don't try to convince 1396 00:59:12,530 --> 00:59:13,560 yourself that it's okay. 1397 00:59:13,660 --> 00:59:16,600 If God lives inside you is that the same as 1398 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,190 myself entering you? 1399 00:59:18,290 --> 00:59:21,810 No, your perception of what the Bible says is 1400 00:59:21,810 --> 00:59:23,760 very different to what God actually means to say. 1401 00:59:23,820 --> 00:59:25,810 You are no more Christian than I am. 1402 00:59:25,810 --> 00:59:27,130 I am about a baptised Christian. 1403 00:59:27,154 --> 00:59:28,654 I don't think you actually Christian - 1404 00:59:28,700 --> 00:59:30,520 Oh really? So you're out here judging me too. 1405 00:59:30,530 --> 00:59:32,440 You wouldn't be out here opposing the word of God. 1406 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,430 I am opposing to the word of God? I am 1407 00:59:34,430 --> 00:59:35,670 opposing you. 1408 00:59:35,770 --> 00:59:38,720 Do not judge people. God is the judge - 1409 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,810 Thank you very much for your comments and trying 1410 00:59:40,810 --> 00:59:42,580 to oppose the word of God but I'm going to 1411 00:59:42,580 --> 00:59:43,410 continue preeching now. 1412 00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:45,910 You think I'm opposing the word of God? 1413 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,800 As I was saying to my friends everyone has the 1414 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,660 freedom to either contribute to the support 1415 00:59:52,660 --> 00:59:55,570 of this practice and continue to live in sin 1416 00:59:56,470 --> 00:59:58,960 or turn away from sin and make peace with God. 1417 00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,110 Because my friends only those who obey Jesus 1418 01:00:02,110 --> 01:00:05,080 Christ and live according to his teaching be 1419 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,900 allowed into His kingdom. And the same way you live 1420 01:00:07,900 --> 01:00:10,600 in this country, you have to abide by the law. 1421 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,700 For me I used to be a drunkard I used to be a 1422 01:00:12,700 --> 01:00:15,010 liar I used to be a theif. I used to you know 1423 01:00:15,010 --> 01:00:17,860 take drugs. I used to go to the club. I used to be 1424 01:00:17,860 --> 01:00:20,200 a bigger sinner. So I'm no better than these 1425 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,840 people I'm just set apart by the grace of God. 1426 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,090 And I've had my sins forgiven and so - 1427 01:00:25,140 --> 01:00:25,770 Are you gay? 1428 01:00:25,810 --> 01:00:26,800 Yes I am queer. 1429 01:00:27,070 --> 01:00:27,160 What? 1430 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:28,510 Queer Pakistani Muslim woman. 1431 01:00:28,510 --> 01:00:29,380 What do you mean queer? 1432 01:00:29,430 --> 01:00:31,920 Well it's a reclamation of that word because - 1433 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,810 I remember queer back in the days in the 70s. 1434 01:00:34,820 --> 01:00:37,490 So the idea is it was used as a derogatory term. 1435 01:00:37,580 --> 01:00:38,450 Yeah queer. 1436 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,570 And we are we reclaiming that in a powerful way to 1437 01:00:41,570 --> 01:00:42,710 say that this is who we are. 1438 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,210 What do you think the implications are for 1439 01:00:44,210 --> 01:00:45,620 people coming out especially for black 1440 01:00:45,620 --> 01:00:46,490 people coming out? 1441 01:00:46,900 --> 01:00:50,140 It's horrible. And it makes you go lulu 1442 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:50,830 mental. 1443 01:00:50,830 --> 01:00:52,810 Well you know know what I mean I'm just 1444 01:00:52,810 --> 01:00:55,630 talking straight. You know when you're mental 1445 01:00:55,630 --> 01:00:56,290 you're mental. 1446 01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:57,000 I mean - 1447 01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:57,250 I mean - A normal mental. 1448 01:00:57,250 --> 01:00:58,200 A normal mental. 1449 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,810 And then there's the gay mental. Sorry. 1450 01:01:01,530 --> 01:01:04,350 I mean I'm gonna say like that term is politically 1451 01:01:04,350 --> 01:01:05,760 incorrect because I'm a psychologist. 1452 01:01:05,910 --> 01:01:07,620 Right there's normal mental you're mental. 1453 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:09,150 You're off key. 1454 01:01:09,690 --> 01:01:12,810 And there's a mental where you can't express 1455 01:01:12,810 --> 01:01:17,070 yourself and your feelings to people and it 1456 01:01:17,070 --> 01:01:19,560 gives you a bit of a mental feeling. 1457 01:01:19,710 --> 01:01:21,900 Listen some people want to commit suicide. 1458 01:01:22,740 --> 01:01:26,280 Naz and Matt Foundation started in 2014 sadly 1459 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,670 as a result of my fiance and soulmate Naz sadly 1460 01:01:29,670 --> 01:01:33,000 taking his own life two days after his family 1461 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,000 confronted him about his sexuality. The start of 1462 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,880 the breakdown was actually Naz being 1463 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,940 criticised because he didn't want to go to a 1464 01:01:41,940 --> 01:01:44,190 family funeral. And the reason why he would not 1465 01:01:44,190 --> 01:01:46,110 go want to go to that family funeral is because 1466 01:01:46,110 --> 01:01:49,050 he was sick and tired of being been asked 'Why 1467 01:01:49,050 --> 01:01:51,400 aren't you married?' And then he said on the phone 1468 01:01:53,050 --> 01:01:56,860 and I'll never forget this. He said I've told 1469 01:01:56,860 --> 01:02:00,550 them. Now there's no build up to this 1470 01:02:00,750 --> 01:02:02,700 conversation so I thought that's why I 1471 01:02:02,700 --> 01:02:06,660 asked him - told them what? And then even 1472 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:08,900 though he was on the phone that I couldn't see 1473 01:02:08,900 --> 01:02:11,150 his face, I could hear. 1474 01:02:15,990 --> 01:02:18,840 I could hear that huge breath that he took when 1475 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:27,110 he said everything, I've told them everything and - 1476 01:02:29,060 --> 01:02:30,980 I've been in that Pakistani home where 1477 01:02:30,980 --> 01:02:34,280 you're carrying you know so much weight 1478 01:02:34,730 --> 01:02:37,070 constantly and I think shame is the way to speak 1479 01:02:37,070 --> 01:02:39,230 to a lot of this and what I think a lot of people 1480 01:02:39,230 --> 01:02:43,370 carry for just being who they are and if you're 1481 01:02:43,370 --> 01:02:46,070 not having a place to speak to that to let that 1482 01:02:46,070 --> 01:02:48,650 weight to come off or for that to be met with love 1483 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:52,520 or acceptance, it rots you on the inside it 1484 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,610 completely like I don't have words to put to that 1485 01:02:55,610 --> 01:02:59,540 and I can only imagine what he was carrying to 1486 01:02:59,540 --> 01:03:01,940 that point in which it was just there was no 1487 01:03:01,940 --> 01:03:04,370 other way out and I've been to those places 1488 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,100 personally and I think that we need to be 1489 01:03:07,100 --> 01:03:09,590 speaking more about the consequences in terms of 1490 01:03:09,590 --> 01:03:12,110 our mental health and especially when it comes 1491 01:03:12,110 --> 01:03:14,780 to intersections of particular identities and 1492 01:03:14,780 --> 01:03:17,960 families that are repeatedly shaming you 1493 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,990 know and cultures are repeatedly shaming us for 1494 01:03:20,990 --> 01:03:22,040 who we actually are. 1495 01:03:22,610 --> 01:03:26,210 My pleasure is my power my moan becomes a protest 1496 01:03:26,330 --> 01:03:28,130 against all I have ever been told. 1497 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,090 You attempt to reprimand me every time that you 1498 01:03:31,090 --> 01:03:31,690 tell me. 1499 01:03:32,290 --> 01:03:34,990 I'm supposed to try hard to make roti and dhal. 1500 01:03:35,980 --> 01:03:38,500 I'm supposed to steer clear of queer company. 1501 01:03:39,290 --> 01:03:41,730 I'm supposed to grow my hair and wear salwar kamaaz 1502 01:03:41,750 --> 01:03:44,060 I'm supposed to find a nice aadmi to take care 1503 01:03:44,060 --> 01:03:44,870 of me. 1504 01:03:44,930 --> 01:03:47,900 Well I would daringly care to disagree. 1505 01:03:48,290 --> 01:03:51,860 But please let the flowers of my Pakistani 1506 01:03:51,860 --> 01:03:55,310 powers interweave with ease through my identity. 1507 01:03:55,850 --> 01:03:58,000 My love is not limited to body parts. 1508 01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,760 It is about the passion that seers between two 1509 01:04:00,820 --> 01:04:03,760 human hearts and there is no part of you that 1510 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,660 will make me feel shame for who and how I love. 1511 01:04:09,060 --> 01:04:10,550 Can I have a talk with you? 1512 01:04:10,590 --> 01:04:11,680 What's up? 1513 01:04:11,704 --> 01:04:13,443 I was speaking to Manpreet and she was 1514 01:04:13,444 --> 01:04:15,588 saying that you were having a chat with her. 1515 01:04:15,646 --> 01:04:17,948 And you were saying that you don't 1516 01:04:18,005 --> 01:04:20,550 think like bisexuality is real or something. 1517 01:04:20,570 --> 01:04:21,000 I don't know what it was. 1518 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:21,380 I don't know what it was. No no no I didn't say that in the conversation 1519 01:04:21,380 --> 01:04:23,610 No no no I didn't say that in the conversation 1520 01:04:23,910 --> 01:04:26,160 I was talking about my own personal experience. 1521 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,140 And I was talking about how when I was growing 1522 01:04:28,140 --> 01:04:30,510 up, I kind of said to my friends and everyone else 1523 01:04:30,510 --> 01:04:33,690 that was bisexual and I go to me it seems like 1524 01:04:33,690 --> 01:04:34,980 Vaneet is doing the same thing. 1525 01:04:35,010 --> 01:04:37,676 That's so invalidating. Like I told you my story. 1526 01:04:37,700 --> 01:04:39,300 I told you how hard it was. 1527 01:04:39,324 --> 01:04:40,324 I told how it was like 1528 01:04:40,348 --> 01:04:42,348 I didn't know if I liked women 1529 01:04:42,372 --> 01:04:43,572 I didn't know if I liked men 1530 01:04:43,596 --> 01:04:45,196 because I kept flipping back and forth 1531 01:04:45,220 --> 01:04:46,320 I didn't have a term for it 1532 01:04:46,344 --> 01:04:47,644 so I didn't know what the hell I was 1533 01:04:47,668 --> 01:04:48,668 I thought I was weird. 1534 01:04:48,692 --> 01:04:50,692 I don't think you realise how difficult it is to be bi 1535 01:04:50,716 --> 01:04:52,716 you're saying its easier and it'll soften the blow 1536 01:04:52,740 --> 01:04:56,340 but we have like higher rates of suicide 1537 01:04:56,364 --> 01:04:58,364 and depression and anxiety 1538 01:04:58,388 --> 01:05:00,388 we're less likely to come out. 1539 01:05:00,412 --> 01:05:02,412 And it's horrible because we go out into the LGBT+ 1540 01:05:02,436 --> 01:05:04,436 community then we get people like that going 1541 01:05:04,460 --> 01:05:06,460 'You're not actually bi though, you're gonna come 1542 01:05:06,484 --> 01:05:08,484 out as gay later, you'll choose a side.' 1543 01:05:08,508 --> 01:05:09,609 We're not gonna choose a side. 1544 01:05:09,610 --> 01:05:10,510 This is my Mum. 1545 01:05:13,349 --> 01:05:15,149 And this is brother in law Tunde. 1546 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,140 My whole family's here. 1547 01:05:18,890 --> 01:05:19,940 You'll be fine. 1548 01:05:19,964 --> 01:05:21,964 You'll be amazing. 1549 01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,320 This guy pops off on Twitter twenty four 1550 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,140 seven. In real life its gonna be the same thing. 1551 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:28,910 I'm gonna be like Twitter but in real life. 1552 01:05:29,060 --> 01:05:30,100 Watch me watch me. 1553 01:05:30,124 --> 01:05:31,399 You will never like not be 1554 01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,230 like oh I can't think of something to say. 1555 01:05:33,270 --> 01:05:34,890 Oh yeah no I mean I'm always gonna have 1556 01:05:34,890 --> 01:05:35,580 something to say. 1557 01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,840 Hi everyone it's very loud very loud person 1558 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,980 I apologise. So I'm a queer person of colour. 1559 01:05:42,980 --> 01:05:46,910 My background is Indian. I identify as bisexual and 1560 01:05:46,910 --> 01:05:50,210 queer. I also do writing in my spare time and I 1561 01:05:50,210 --> 01:05:52,460 was published in the Bible Volume 2 which 1562 01:05:52,460 --> 01:05:54,350 you may have seen being sold here today. 1563 01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,960 I can't remember a time were I didn't feel 1564 01:05:56,990 --> 01:06:00,500 othered honestly. I grew up in Southall and it's 1565 01:06:00,500 --> 01:06:03,230 a very South Asian area and it was rife with 1566 01:06:03,230 --> 01:06:07,580 toxic masculinity which we all love and when I 1567 01:06:07,580 --> 01:06:09,470 finally did come to terms with my sexuality and I 1568 01:06:09,470 --> 01:06:13,460 finally did come out I went into LGBT+ spaces 1569 01:06:13,460 --> 01:06:16,070 and it was lovely to have all these LGBT+ friends 1570 01:06:16,430 --> 01:06:18,320 apart from the fact they just didn't want to talk 1571 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,090 about race. They just didn't. 1572 01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,690 Anytime I bring up cultural appropriation. 1573 01:06:23,990 --> 01:06:26,750 Anytime I bring up preferences. Yeah it's 1574 01:06:26,750 --> 01:06:31,940 not preference mate any single time I would say 1575 01:06:31,940 --> 01:06:34,490 this stuff people there would always be at least 1576 01:06:34,490 --> 01:06:36,920 one person in the room would be like 'can you 1577 01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,620 just stop talking?' And they just didn't want to 1578 01:06:39,620 --> 01:06:42,560 hear because all of them were just White cis gay 1579 01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:42,740 men. 1580 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,390 So I was like right well I need to go somewhere 1581 01:06:45,390 --> 01:06:48,480 else. So I found queer people of colour spaces 1582 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,190 and you think well okay maybe that will be 1583 01:06:50,190 --> 01:06:52,530 better but just like with the White cis gay 1584 01:06:52,530 --> 01:06:54,360 spaces biphobia existed. 1585 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,670 Oh my god congratulations. 1586 01:07:02,670 --> 01:07:03,940 You look so gorgeous. 1587 01:07:03,964 --> 01:07:06,364 Aw I love it. 1588 01:07:07,064 --> 01:07:09,064 We're gonna walk past and see us 1589 01:07:09,088 --> 01:07:11,088 on the street. 1590 01:07:11,112 --> 01:07:13,112 Oh that's gonna be so lush. 1591 01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:15,570 Do you drink diet Coke? 1592 01:07:15,630 --> 01:07:20,490 I normally drink normal Coke it will do. I'm not 1593 01:07:20,490 --> 01:07:22,870 that much of a queen just coz I'm on photos now. 1594 01:07:23,900 --> 01:07:25,930 For people of colour it's always like one or 1595 01:07:25,930 --> 01:07:27,400 the other. Either you're ignored or you're 1596 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:28,390 fetishised. 1597 01:07:28,410 --> 01:07:30,570 And for me I'm always in the ignore category 1598 01:07:30,570 --> 01:07:32,820 because like there's so many other things on top 1599 01:07:32,820 --> 01:07:34,830 of me being Asian that just don't like. 1600 01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:36,570 Is it easy to tell that I'm Asian? 1601 01:07:36,594 --> 01:07:37,529 Yes. 1602 01:07:37,530 --> 01:07:40,020 You can still tell because your eyes 1603 01:07:40,050 --> 01:07:41,550 there's a lot of space around your eyes. 1604 01:07:41,550 --> 01:07:42,930 So shall I put some foundation on. 1605 01:07:43,710 --> 01:07:44,950 Pretend to be White for a day? 1606 01:07:44,974 --> 01:07:46,649 You're gonna go to a 1607 01:07:46,650 --> 01:07:47,940 circuit party and just pretend that you're 1608 01:07:47,940 --> 01:07:49,850 White that's what you wanna to do? 1609 01:07:49,850 --> 01:07:51,350 Yeah I'd be more successful. 1610 01:07:51,410 --> 01:07:54,530 And when it happens just be like suprise bitch. 1611 01:07:54,590 --> 01:07:56,850 Look you kissed a Paki. 1612 01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,500 I haven't tested my limits to be honest but 1613 01:08:01,530 --> 01:08:04,220 if I were to test my limits again then I 1614 01:08:04,220 --> 01:08:05,990 guess I would use the ultimate penetrating 1615 01:08:05,990 --> 01:08:08,180 cream. I have had to train myself up a bit 1616 01:08:08,210 --> 01:08:11,450 first. But spit is quite popular these days. 1617 01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,310 That's what you want really a spit and shove. 1618 01:08:15,330 --> 01:08:17,610 I don't know if you're aware actually but I 1619 01:08:17,610 --> 01:08:20,430 only ever go for an uncut dick. I like mine 1620 01:08:20,430 --> 01:08:21,750 nice and haram. 1621 01:08:25,500 --> 01:08:26,650 I'm growing my foreskin using - 1622 01:08:26,674 --> 01:08:28,074 How'd you grow foreskin? 1623 01:08:28,100 --> 01:08:32,210 It's using a foreskin DTR called a dick restorer 1624 01:08:32,300 --> 01:08:34,130 But you're Muslim I'm Muslim were circumcised - 1625 01:08:34,154 --> 01:08:35,154 Yep foreskin restorer. 1626 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,620 So you can stretch your skin and all of the skin 1627 01:08:38,620 --> 01:08:41,060 cells when you separate them they start to 1628 01:08:41,060 --> 01:08:43,820 undergo mitosis so they replicate. So you can 1629 01:08:43,820 --> 01:08:47,510 replicate all of those skin cells from your 1630 01:08:47,510 --> 01:08:49,150 foreskin a little bit that you got left. 1631 01:08:49,174 --> 01:08:51,879 Yeah I got a device and it pulls it everyday 1632 01:08:51,903 --> 01:08:53,903 while I'm at work under the desk. 1633 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,590 Yeah but it takes about 6 months or 8 months. 1634 01:08:57,300 --> 01:08:59,480 I don't know if you're lying to me. 1635 01:08:59,540 --> 01:09:00,920 It's called intactivism. 1636 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:02,770 Everyone on Grindr is like oh you're gonna be 1637 01:09:02,770 --> 01:09:04,810 my like sub bottom boy and I'm like other way 1638 01:09:04,810 --> 01:09:05,440 round sis. 1639 01:09:06,110 --> 01:09:08,540 Don't let the hair fool you. Don't let the Asian 1640 01:09:08,540 --> 01:09:09,080 fool you. 1641 01:09:10,260 --> 01:09:12,630 Oh look douche cleansing. 1642 01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:15,690 I just hate all of these like sub communities. 1643 01:09:15,690 --> 01:09:17,130 And fact that they're like let's have a flag 1644 01:09:17,130 --> 01:09:19,170 and I'm like why? You're not a marginalised group. 1645 01:09:19,220 --> 01:09:21,050 And when we get a flag with black and brown 1646 01:09:21,074 --> 01:09:22,549 stripes suddenly it's like oooh. 1647 01:09:22,550 --> 01:09:23,990 'No you can't be a group 1648 01:09:24,060 --> 01:09:25,950 because that's racist.' 1649 01:09:25,950 --> 01:09:27,510 But you can have a bear flag. 1650 01:09:31,460 --> 01:09:33,080 Only do things that you're absolutely 1651 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:34,700 comfortable with. Don't feel any pressure to do 1652 01:09:34,700 --> 01:09:36,350 anything that you don't want to do of course. 1653 01:09:36,350 --> 01:09:37,490 If at any point you guys feel like you're in 1654 01:09:37,490 --> 01:09:39,950 danger just shout out a safe word or a code 1655 01:09:39,950 --> 01:09:41,780 word. Yeah what would you want to use? 1656 01:09:41,930 --> 01:09:42,870 Pineapple. 1657 01:09:43,370 --> 01:09:44,370 OK pineapple. 1658 01:09:45,790 --> 01:09:48,550 And then I've got this DJI so this is a gimbal. 1659 01:09:48,550 --> 01:09:50,440 So I'm going to be basically hovering around 1660 01:09:50,440 --> 01:09:52,450 you looking like a pervert following you 1661 01:09:52,450 --> 01:09:54,730 like this. The point of it is to see how gay 1662 01:09:54,730 --> 01:09:56,770 friendly or queer friendly the high street 1663 01:09:56,770 --> 01:09:58,660 is so it might even be that people like don't 1664 01:09:58,660 --> 01:09:59,500 even batter an eyelid. 1665 01:10:00,970 --> 01:10:03,040 I feel like we haven't actually been on the 1666 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,260 date this is like our first date but like 1667 01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:07,780 recorded which is weird. 1668 01:10:07,900 --> 01:10:08,450 Yeah. 1669 01:10:08,500 --> 01:10:11,860 Pronouns are he him they them. When I was like 13 1670 01:10:11,860 --> 01:10:13,750 I used to wear boys clothes all the time, I 1671 01:10:13,750 --> 01:10:16,120 was actually secretly happy on my friend broke 1672 01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:17,380 the head off my Barbie. 1673 01:10:24,830 --> 01:10:26,960 About three years ago I experienced homophobia 1674 01:10:26,990 --> 01:10:28,610 where I work. I used to work in finance as a 1675 01:10:28,610 --> 01:10:31,160 trader in Canary Wharf. I basically interviewed for 1676 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,500 the job as a feminine and I kind of became more and 1677 01:10:33,500 --> 01:10:35,570 more masculine towards the end of my time there. 1678 01:10:35,870 --> 01:10:38,210 And that became a bit confusing for them so it 1679 01:10:38,210 --> 01:10:39,800 didn't really go so well and then I ended up 1680 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,470 getting bullied for it and like my hands were 1681 01:10:42,470 --> 01:10:44,990 like shaking at work and shit. Yeah. 1682 01:10:45,020 --> 01:10:46,400 How bullied like how? 1683 01:10:47,290 --> 01:10:49,660 Swearing laughing jeering. 1684 01:10:51,090 --> 01:10:53,220 They would walk past me and then 1685 01:10:53,250 --> 01:10:56,550 click pens and be like 'when she's gonna get fired? 1686 01:10:56,550 --> 01:10:58,040 Does she know she's gonna get fired? 1687 01:10:58,040 --> 01:10:59,290 Who's gonna fire her?' 1688 01:10:59,314 --> 01:11:02,114 So I ended up with PTSD and it took me 2 years 1689 01:11:02,138 --> 01:11:03,138 to recover. 1690 01:11:03,162 --> 01:11:05,762 Day one my parents couldn't even hug me 1691 01:11:05,786 --> 01:11:07,286 they couldn't come into my room 1692 01:11:07,310 --> 01:11:08,910 because I'd have a panic attack I was 1693 01:11:08,934 --> 01:11:10,409 that scared of people. 1694 01:11:10,410 --> 01:11:12,780 I had to relearn how to eat in public how to 1695 01:11:12,900 --> 01:11:15,330 read how to write in public like I literally 1696 01:11:15,330 --> 01:11:17,250 couldn't work at all for like two years. 1697 01:11:17,510 --> 01:11:18,470 People who have a problem with it well I'm like 1698 01:11:18,500 --> 01:11:20,420 people already had a problem with me before so 1699 01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,190 I am a Black trans man. 1700 01:11:31,300 --> 01:11:33,500 I'm starting to feel a bit uncomfortable. 1701 01:11:33,524 --> 01:11:35,524 You're so nervous. Look at you. 1702 01:11:35,548 --> 01:11:37,548 I am a bit nervous. 1703 01:11:56,650 --> 01:11:58,590 Those guys they're like three of them. 1704 01:11:58,870 --> 01:12:01,300 They saw that I saw them and they started like 1705 01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:04,150 just looking but like 1706 01:12:04,450 --> 01:12:05,500 very intensely. 1707 01:12:05,870 --> 01:12:07,520 Some people were curious or some people were 1708 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:08,960 getting a bit aggressive. 1709 01:12:12,935 --> 01:12:14,935 How vegan does it taste? 1710 01:12:16,460 --> 01:12:19,100 It actually tastes like sausage. 1711 01:12:19,370 --> 01:12:20,090 Hey hello. 1712 01:12:22,970 --> 01:12:24,440 Yeah I'm just a bit concerned that I think 1713 01:12:24,470 --> 01:12:26,960 the more I become who I am as an individual it 1714 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:28,610 means that I'm going to have to deal with like 1715 01:12:28,610 --> 01:12:31,190 more prejudice like my partners will have 1716 01:12:31,190 --> 01:12:31,700 prejudice. 1717 01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:33,880 My children are going to have prejudice. It's just 1718 01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,160 gonna be a lot of pain for a lot of people. 1719 01:12:36,370 --> 01:12:38,980 Just because I want to accept who I am as as an 1720 01:12:38,980 --> 01:12:39,900 individual. 1721 01:12:39,970 --> 01:12:41,720 I went through hell and I've come on the other end 1722 01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,350 so I should speak about what happens it 1723 01:12:44,350 --> 01:12:45,490 doesn't happen to anyone else. 1724 01:12:46,100 --> 01:12:48,810 You should see how she's looking at us. 1725 01:12:49,110 --> 01:12:50,090 You should see it. 1726 01:12:50,130 --> 01:12:51,270 She's horrified. 1727 01:12:51,270 --> 01:12:52,020 Horrified? 1728 01:12:52,020 --> 01:12:52,350 Yeah. 1729 01:12:52,440 --> 01:12:52,770 Oh. 1730 01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,530 She's just like, analysing us and 1731 01:12:55,530 --> 01:12:55,980 everything. 1732 01:12:58,260 --> 01:12:59,670 I think she thinks I can't see her. 1733 01:13:16,460 --> 01:13:17,760 Everyone is watching us on the bus. 1734 01:13:17,780 --> 01:13:18,500 Yeah I know I know. 1735 01:13:18,500 --> 01:13:19,010 Everyone is. 1736 01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:46,000 Yeah we should actually go on like an actual date. 1737 01:13:46,060 --> 01:13:47,100 You're cool. 1738 01:15:36,850 --> 01:15:38,020 This is where I grew up. 1739 01:15:38,140 --> 01:15:38,650 Yeah. 1740 01:15:39,610 --> 01:15:42,190 I've spent most of my life here. 1741 01:15:42,340 --> 01:15:42,790 Sure. 1742 01:15:42,850 --> 01:15:45,520 I wasn't out when I was here to be out and being 1743 01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:49,450 in Southall and like it's exactly what I thought it 1744 01:15:49,450 --> 01:15:49,810 would be. 1745 01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:50,380 You're right. 1746 01:15:50,410 --> 01:15:52,990 I've not seen a single person walk by who hasn't 1747 01:15:52,990 --> 01:15:53,710 had a look. 1748 01:15:54,230 --> 01:15:56,330 And the looks are not positive looks. 1749 01:15:56,390 --> 01:15:57,920 If looks could kill. 1750 01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:01,240 It just confirms for me I could never be out here. 1751 01:16:01,330 --> 01:16:03,190 It could never come to Southall and be out and 1752 01:16:03,190 --> 01:16:03,940 be whatever. 1753 01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:04,360 Okay. 1754 01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:07,690 I just live my life without reactions or 1755 01:16:07,690 --> 01:16:09,720 without feeling unsafe. 1756 01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:09,730 without feeling unsafe. For me when I come here to a place like this 1757 01:16:09,730 --> 01:16:11,670 For me when I come here to a place like this 1758 01:16:11,670 --> 01:16:15,510 where I see people of my culture living their 1759 01:16:15,510 --> 01:16:18,150 lives but not really changing their mindsets. 1760 01:16:18,330 --> 01:16:21,210 I'm very inclined to change their mindset by 1761 01:16:21,210 --> 01:16:22,590 public displays of affection. 1762 01:16:22,620 --> 01:16:22,860 Yeah. 1763 01:16:22,890 --> 01:16:26,010 So for me is very like I'm not gonna like hold 1764 01:16:26,010 --> 01:16:28,350 back I want to like full on kiss I might even 1765 01:16:28,350 --> 01:16:29,280 take my clothes off. 1766 01:16:29,330 --> 01:16:31,370 I used to come to this high street all the time. 1767 01:16:31,370 --> 01:16:34,070 I'm pretty sure I used to come to dentist here. My 1768 01:16:34,190 --> 01:16:36,560 family used to have a business here. 1769 01:16:36,770 --> 01:16:40,130 Like this, this is my this is everything to me. 1770 01:16:40,130 --> 01:16:41,810 This is this is this is my whole life. 1771 01:16:41,850 --> 01:16:44,850 You have a connection a personal, heartfelt 1772 01:16:44,850 --> 01:16:48,810 connection to this area. And you you want to be 1773 01:16:48,810 --> 01:16:51,270 fully accepted for your whole self when you're 1774 01:16:51,900 --> 01:16:54,660 And it's sad because like, no matter what 1775 01:16:54,660 --> 01:16:57,990 happens in my life, no matter where I go, a tiny 1776 01:16:57,990 --> 01:17:00,670 piece of my heart will always be here. 1777 01:17:19,194 --> 01:17:20,894 It's Beyonce. 1778 01:17:20,918 --> 01:17:22,918 Happy Black Pride. 1779 01:17:24,242 --> 01:17:26,242 Oh my god. Look at you. 1780 01:17:30,466 --> 01:17:31,866 Look at that this. 1781 01:17:32,590 --> 01:17:33,990 Why does it look like Glastonbury? 1782 01:17:34,014 --> 01:17:35,069 What have you done? 1783 01:17:35,093 --> 01:17:36,969 That stage is immense. 1784 01:17:36,970 --> 01:17:38,230 We got a little bit more money. 1785 01:17:38,830 --> 01:17:42,210 If I say UK you say Black Pride. 1786 01:17:42,234 --> 01:17:43,134 UK 1787 01:17:43,158 --> 01:17:44,058 Black Pride 1788 01:17:44,082 --> 01:17:44,982 UK 1789 01:17:45,006 --> 01:17:45,806 Black Pride. 1790 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:53,130 Ryan Lanji. Who is the innovator and creator of 1791 01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:57,150 East London's queer Bollywood night called 1792 01:17:57,540 --> 01:17:58,950 Hungama. 1793 01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,800 Performing for UK Black Pride was an honor. 1794 01:18:21,730 --> 01:18:23,440 There's this weird moment where like time didn't 1795 01:18:23,440 --> 01:18:26,260 exist and like those moments when you're a kid 1796 01:18:26,260 --> 01:18:28,660 with your parents and you're partying at a 1797 01:18:28,660 --> 01:18:30,970 wedding and you hear a song and you hear a tune 1798 01:18:30,970 --> 01:18:34,720 and your soul feels it I could feel it and 1799 01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:37,480 everyone in the audience I just I just phenomenal. 1800 01:18:38,860 --> 01:18:42,460 And so about coming and exploring, learning and 1801 01:18:42,460 --> 01:18:44,170 being together with everyone you didn't 1802 01:18:44,170 --> 01:18:45,130 realise was there. 1803 01:18:45,510 --> 01:18:48,570 As a queer Muslim who's living in Birmingham who 1804 01:18:48,570 --> 01:18:50,670 grew up in Birmingham how did you find the 1805 01:18:50,670 --> 01:18:52,650 impact in relation to seeing what was going on 1806 01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:53,370 with the protests? 1807 01:18:53,510 --> 01:18:56,180 I'm not from Birmingham? Can you not tell I'm from 1808 01:18:56,180 --> 01:18:56,870 Glasgow. 1809 01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,420 I have this opportunity this platform and yes 1810 01:18:59,420 --> 01:19:02,570 this privilege to be able to go to the community 1811 01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,240 ask some questions and challenge them and then 1812 01:19:05,270 --> 01:19:07,490 leave again and not have to deal unfortunately 1813 01:19:07,490 --> 01:19:09,470 with what people that actually live in the 1814 01:19:09,470 --> 01:19:11,600 community like people in the street what they 1815 01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:13,460 have to deal with because yes they are 1816 01:19:13,700 --> 01:19:16,310 marginalised as Muslims and they deal with 1817 01:19:16,310 --> 01:19:19,520 racism. So I would say moving forward I think 1818 01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:22,940 we need to have love in our hearts and really 1819 01:19:22,940 --> 01:19:25,760 open up dialogue and be able to trust each other 1820 01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:26,780 more. 1821 01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:33,980 I think the LGBTQ community has a lot of 1822 01:19:33,980 --> 01:19:37,010 work to do you know and I think the more of us 1823 01:19:37,010 --> 01:19:38,960 who read up on history queer history 1824 01:19:39,140 --> 01:19:43,310 specifically and the liberation movements the 1825 01:19:43,310 --> 01:19:44,870 more we begin to understand that we're 1826 01:19:44,870 --> 01:19:46,400 kind of we're still fighting a lot of the 1827 01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:48,740 same fights and a lot of those fights are 1828 01:19:48,740 --> 01:19:51,080 internal right we're fighting with each other. 1829 01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:52,430 We're protecting ourselves from each 1830 01:19:52,430 --> 01:19:55,220 other we're trying to bridge the divide we're 1831 01:19:55,220 --> 01:19:57,140 trying to have these conversations across 1832 01:19:57,260 --> 01:19:58,760 party lines and racial lines. 1833 01:19:58,870 --> 01:20:02,260 So this Pride here is inclusive. 1834 01:20:02,380 --> 01:20:05,290 This Pride here caters for our migrants 1835 01:20:05,290 --> 01:20:07,900 our refugees our asylum seekers 1836 01:20:07,990 --> 01:20:09,910 our Black and Brown queer folk 1837 01:20:10,090 --> 01:20:12,910 our homeless, people who are trying to get into 1838 01:20:12,910 --> 01:20:13,930 the workforce. 1839 01:20:14,140 --> 01:20:17,740 It is the most inclusive Pride you will come across. 1840 01:20:20,143 --> 01:20:22,897 This is the place where you can be 1841 01:20:22,921 --> 01:20:26,821 100 per cent free. 1842 01:20:29,950 --> 01:20:32,750 This is the place were you are not too Black. 1843 01:20:33,550 --> 01:20:34,604 You are not too White. 1844 01:20:35,451 --> 01:20:37,005 You are are not too Brown. 1845 01:20:37,105 --> 01:20:38,359 You are not too short. 1846 01:20:39,083 --> 01:20:40,583 You are not too tall. 1847 01:20:40,607 --> 01:20:42,607 You are not too fat. 1848 01:20:42,631 --> 01:20:44,631 You are not too maga. 1849 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,070 You are not too gay. 1850 01:20:47,460 --> 01:20:49,260 You are not too straight. 1851 01:20:49,830 --> 01:20:51,600 You are not too butch. 1852 01:20:51,740 --> 01:20:53,580 You are not too fem. 1853 01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:55,690 You are not too undecided. 1854 01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:57,810 You are not too binary. 1855 01:20:58,110 --> 01:21:00,180 You are not anything 1856 01:21:00,204 --> 01:21:05,704 except too brainwashed to realise how beautiful you are. 1857 01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:13,950 This is where you belong. 1858 01:21:14,900 --> 01:21:17,420 Hi I'm Aaron from Beyonce experience you're 1859 01:21:17,420 --> 01:21:19,550 watching Rainbow Films at UK Black Pride. 1860 01:21:20,140 --> 01:21:23,140 I've been here since 6am when it was raining and I 1861 01:21:23,140 --> 01:21:25,330 honestly thought wow are people even gonna come 1862 01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,060 you know in the rain. Every time I pop out my 1863 01:21:28,060 --> 01:21:31,060 head it just seems to like double in size with 1864 01:21:31,060 --> 01:21:33,610 the vibe and energy here. I can feel it backstage 1865 01:21:33,610 --> 01:21:35,680 like I'm gonna have absolute chills going on 1866 01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:36,990 that stage for that audiene. 1867 01:21:54,550 --> 01:21:56,620 I've never been so excited for a performance 1868 01:21:56,620 --> 01:21:58,540 you know this performance and what I'm 1869 01:21:58,540 --> 01:22:01,270 doing today has been in my head for probably 1870 01:22:01,270 --> 01:22:02,260 about four or five months. 1871 01:22:05,270 --> 01:22:07,550 I am so proud of Aaron Carty like I don't think 1872 01:22:07,550 --> 01:22:11,000 that people realise how much work he puts into 1873 01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:13,910 the Beyonce experience. The handmaking of all of 1874 01:22:13,910 --> 01:22:17,330 the costumes, the rehearsals, the dancers 1875 01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:18,620 everything. 1876 01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:47,060 If you like it you should have put a ring on it. 1877 01:22:49,060 --> 01:22:53,350 The Beyonce experience. 1878 01:22:54,374 --> 01:22:58,774 When we rise. 1879 01:22:58,798 --> 01:23:02,898 When we rise. 1880 01:23:09,980 --> 01:23:12,170 Like over 10,000 people. 1881 01:23:13,340 --> 01:23:14,830 You make this happen. 1882 01:23:14,870 --> 01:23:17,840 So now you know what as we walk off 1883 01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:20,690 we take Pride in who we are. 1884 01:23:21,500 --> 01:23:22,910 No to racism 1885 01:23:23,210 --> 01:23:24,530 no to sexism 1886 01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,420 no to homophobia 1887 01:23:26,500 --> 01:23:27,890 no to biphobia 1888 01:23:27,890 --> 01:23:29,360 no to transphobia 1889 01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:32,670 no to any phobia at all. 1890 01:23:32,930 --> 01:23:35,180 It's incredible that an event like UK Black Pride 1891 01:23:35,180 --> 01:23:36,250 exists. 1892 01:23:36,260 --> 01:23:37,880 You know the community has shown me such 1893 01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,760 remarkable compassion and empathy and I think it's 1894 01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:42,710 just a demonstration of the potential of our 1895 01:23:42,710 --> 01:23:45,320 community right? We do have it within us to 1896 01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:47,210 recognise each other's humanity to treat each 1897 01:23:47,210 --> 01:23:49,310 other with kindness but I think that if we're 1898 01:23:49,310 --> 01:23:50,720 going to get to where we need to go we got to do 1899 01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:51,440 it together. 1900 01:23:52,620 --> 01:23:54,750 For weeks at the gates of a primary school in 1901 01:23:54,750 --> 01:23:57,450 Birminghamt here were loud protests claiming 1902 01:23:57,450 --> 01:24:01,650 teachers were promoting homosexuality. Now pupils 1903 01:24:01,650 --> 01:24:04,200 working hard inside Anderton Park Primary 1904 01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:07,080 School aren't disturbed by demonstrations 1905 01:24:07,140 --> 01:24:10,620 outside. Today the High Court in Birmingham ruled 1906 01:24:10,650 --> 01:24:13,350 an injunction stopping the demos at the school 1907 01:24:13,380 --> 01:24:15,990 gates should be made permanent. 1908 01:24:16,050 --> 01:24:17,400 Well I'm just glad that we were able to 1909 01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:19,530 contribute to getting these protesters banned 1910 01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:20,280 once and for all. 1911 01:24:20,310 --> 01:24:21,810 The police officer came to you didn't they? 1912 01:24:21,811 --> 01:24:23,735 Yeah basically they took a statement. 1913 01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:25,270 They came down here they're in the office for like 1914 01:24:25,350 --> 01:24:27,630 three hours talking about you know what 1915 01:24:27,630 --> 01:24:29,550 they're trying to do with the case they did say it 1916 01:24:29,550 --> 01:24:31,560 was going to be quite difficult to prove a lot 1917 01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:32,010 of things. 1918 01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:34,770 However she said the footage that I submitted 1919 01:24:34,770 --> 01:24:36,630 the things that I filmed outside with you in there 1920 01:24:36,630 --> 01:24:37,080 as well. 1921 01:24:37,130 --> 01:24:38,730 She said that was a critical piece of 1922 01:24:38,730 --> 01:24:40,890 evidence that helped to get them prosecuted and 1923 01:24:40,890 --> 01:24:42,920 without that piece of evidence I don't think 1924 01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,070 they would have had the case. There are gonna be 1925 01:24:45,070 --> 01:24:46,730 other groups are going to be opposed to it but 1926 01:24:46,730 --> 01:24:48,640 this sends out a clear message that hate speech 1927 01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,320 is not going to be tolerated. This is just 1928 01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,490 the start. I think we've got a lot more work to do. 1929 01:24:52,514 --> 01:24:54,514 Just thank you for being a part of it. 1930 01:24:54,538 --> 01:24:56,538 Do you know what? It's all about the Rainbow. 1931 01:25:13,530 --> 01:25:15,600 So you feeling prepped for tonight? 1932 01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,360 Yeah I actually am feeling prepped. I got my mic 1933 01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:19,860 ready so everything. 1934 01:25:19,870 --> 01:25:23,590 I was struggling so much when I came out and I 1935 01:25:23,590 --> 01:25:26,530 never really saw anyone like me and hopefully I 1936 01:25:26,530 --> 01:25:28,740 can try and be that for other people. 1937 01:25:28,810 --> 01:25:32,260 You're really impacting people now. And it's just 1938 01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:35,890 nice to know that your voice is a voice 1939 01:25:35,890 --> 01:25:37,410 that matters now. 1940 01:25:37,434 --> 01:25:39,434 No I'm like I'm an angry Twitter ranter that's 1941 01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:40,550 my identity. 1942 01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:42,060 You're bifurious. 1943 01:25:42,060 --> 01:25:44,150 Bifurious always. 1944 01:25:45,380 --> 01:25:46,190 Oh wait there we go. 1945 01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:47,450 Yeah that's fine. 1946 01:25:50,270 --> 01:25:53,030 So as you can see this exhibition is about 1947 01:25:53,030 --> 01:25:57,110 equality, diversity and what we can do to make 1948 01:25:57,530 --> 01:26:01,220 minority voices heard and a bunch of us have been 1949 01:26:01,220 --> 01:26:03,710 working on a huge project that's the involvement of 1950 01:26:03,710 --> 01:26:10,010 the LGBTQ community and how we as Indians and how 1951 01:26:10,010 --> 01:26:12,860 we as Brown people want to be seen in the 1952 01:26:12,860 --> 01:26:16,850 community because we don't have a voice. So a 1953 01:26:16,850 --> 01:26:18,560 lot of us has been have been doing things through 1954 01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:22,280 activism and I've been working on music that is 1955 01:26:22,310 --> 01:26:26,840 accepting who you are despite of society and 1956 01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:28,790 people telling you that you aren't allowed to 1957 01:26:28,790 --> 01:26:32,060 have both. You are allowed to be queer and 1958 01:26:32,060 --> 01:26:33,470 Brown and you're allowed to be yourself. 1959 01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:37,460 Hands together falling on your knees. 1960 01:26:39,130 --> 01:26:42,610 You say he is good he is grace he loves us 1961 01:26:42,700 --> 01:26:44,350 equally. 1962 01:26:45,790 --> 01:26:49,180 I'll hold her hand for the whole world to see. 1963 01:26:50,650 --> 01:26:53,950 We'll write our names on locks and chain them to 1964 01:26:53,950 --> 01:26:55,210 the city. 1965 01:26:56,440 --> 01:26:58,210 You can waste your time. 1966 01:26:58,930 --> 01:27:03,100 You can try to shun me. Leave me with no roof 1967 01:27:03,100 --> 01:27:05,080 over my head. 1968 01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:10,840 I'll spend the night star gazing with my lover instead. 1969 01:27:10,900 --> 01:27:15,550 And I love the way I was meant to. 1970 01:27:15,910 --> 01:27:20,680 And I love the way I was born to do. 1971 01:27:20,930 --> 01:27:25,030 And I love the way I would want to. 1972 01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,330 So free. 1973 01:27:34,070 --> 01:27:36,140 That's such a cute way to end it. 1974 01:27:36,140 --> 01:27:37,100 Thank you. 1975 01:27:37,100 --> 01:27:37,820 You smashed it. 1976 01:27:38,170 --> 01:27:39,940 Before this I never really thought of 1977 01:27:39,940 --> 01:27:42,880 activism much. Now I've made friends with so many 1978 01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:44,980 people who are doing so many nice things for the 1979 01:27:44,980 --> 01:27:47,470 world and I want to be a part of it. I want to 1980 01:27:47,470 --> 01:27:49,960 continue on with seeing where I can go with 1981 01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:53,260 fitting my queerness into my music and how I 1982 01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:54,330 can just create 1983 01:27:54,330 --> 01:27:56,820 more of a visible space for people like me. 1984 01:27:57,320 --> 01:28:00,410 I've started this when I was in these spaces and 1985 01:28:00,410 --> 01:28:03,830 they were all very White and very gay. And through 1986 01:28:03,830 --> 01:28:07,460 this, I've met so many people of colour. I've 1987 01:28:07,460 --> 01:28:10,400 met so many bisexual people. We're having all 1988 01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:12,290 of these discussions and you can have these 1989 01:28:12,290 --> 01:28:14,990 conversations so loudly and openly. All I was 1990 01:28:14,990 --> 01:28:16,730 doing was just being myself and suddenly 1991 01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:18,950 everyone's listening to me and I feel like I 1992 01:28:18,950 --> 01:28:19,760 just want to keep going. 1993 01:28:21,490 --> 01:28:23,980 I just think it's time for minds to change. We 1994 01:28:23,980 --> 01:28:26,800 can't allow this narrative of homophobia 1995 01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:28,840 in the Muslim community to go unchallenged 1996 01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:31,720 forever. I know that queer Muslims like myself 1997 01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:34,270 me included definitely will not allow homophobic 1998 01:28:34,270 --> 01:28:36,850 Muslims to take over the narrative anymore. 1999 01:28:38,130 --> 01:28:40,530 It's time to have a queer platform like this. It's 2000 01:28:40,530 --> 01:28:43,860 time for us to unite and it's time for us to make 2001 01:28:43,860 --> 01:28:45,050 that difference. 2002 01:29:00,974 --> 01:29:03,074 Rainbow Films. 2003 01:29:10,298 --> 01:29:12,898 SUBTITLES BY BLAISE SINGH 146210

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