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2471
02:17:27,344 --> 02:17:29,813
♪ Well, I know you rider
2472
02:17:29,846 --> 02:17:32,549
♪ Gonna miss me when
2473
02:17:32,583 --> 02:17:35,552
Lesh: I did not want
to take a break.
2474
02:17:35,586 --> 02:17:37,688
I was so into it,
and it was just developing,
2475
02:17:37,721 --> 02:17:39,856
and it was getting better
and better and better,
2476
02:17:39,890 --> 02:17:42,259
and I was having
the time of my life.
2477
02:17:42,293 --> 02:17:44,595
♪ Gonna miss me
2478
02:17:44,628 --> 02:17:48,265
My fear was,
once we took a break,
2479
02:17:48,299 --> 02:17:49,900
it might not come back
together again.
2480
02:17:52,369 --> 02:17:54,938
And the Grateful Dead is the best
thing that ever happened to me
2481
02:17:54,971 --> 02:17:57,208
until I met my wife.
2482
02:17:57,241 --> 02:18:00,211
And I did not want to let it go.
2483
02:18:00,244 --> 02:18:03,880
Not even for a minute.
2484
02:18:52,996 --> 02:18:54,898
Huh?
2485
02:19:29,032 --> 02:19:31,668
Lesh: From 1967 on,
it was constant.
2486
02:19:34,004 --> 02:19:37,007
We averaged 80 shows
a year, on the road.
2487
02:19:38,675 --> 02:19:41,678
I guess people were
just getting tired.
2488
02:19:43,980 --> 02:19:48,585
Well, what happened was that
everybody sort of went their...
2489
02:19:48,619 --> 02:19:52,356
Their separate ways
to let things cool out.
2490
02:19:54,725 --> 02:19:56,627
Never waste a drop.
2491
02:19:56,660 --> 02:19:59,496
Weir: And that period of rest
2492
02:19:59,530 --> 02:20:02,466
really kind of saved us.
2493
02:20:02,499 --> 02:20:05,536
It's not just momentary fatigue
that you're running down,
2494
02:20:05,569 --> 02:20:07,704
and you look back
on your lifestyle,
2495
02:20:07,738 --> 02:20:09,916
and you can pretty clearly see
what's been doing it to you,
2496
02:20:09,940 --> 02:20:14,311
then prudence decrees that you're
gonna have to alter your lifestyle,
2497
02:20:14,345 --> 02:20:16,713
or you're not gonna
make it very far.
2498
02:20:16,747 --> 02:20:19,650
I don't think that I can
really fairly expect
2499
02:20:19,683 --> 02:20:21,852
to live for a long time
if I'm on the road
2500
02:20:21,885 --> 02:20:23,620
six months out of the year.
2501
02:20:26,390 --> 02:20:27,958
That's hard on you.
2502
02:20:35,666 --> 02:20:37,468
When the Grateful Dead
took a break,
2503
02:20:37,501 --> 02:20:39,436
we didn't stop for a second.
2504
02:20:39,470 --> 02:20:41,872
Not me and Jerry.
We just went right into the Garcia band.
2505
02:20:41,905 --> 02:20:43,474
We kept going.
2506
02:20:43,507 --> 02:20:45,709
♪ Later on,
the bottom dropped out ♪
2507
02:20:45,742 --> 02:20:48,412
♪ I became withdrawn
2508
02:20:48,445 --> 02:20:50,981
♪ The only thing
I knew how to do ♪
2509
02:20:51,014 --> 02:20:53,717
♪ Was to keep on keepin' on
like a bird that flew ♪
2510
02:20:55,752 --> 02:20:59,356
♪ Tangled up in blue
2511
02:20:59,390 --> 02:21:01,925
Parish: We were playing
nightclubs night after night.
2512
02:21:01,958 --> 02:21:04,995
Putting all our energy into it.
2513
02:21:05,028 --> 02:21:08,732
You see, Jerry just wanted
to be a guitar player.
2514
02:21:08,765 --> 02:21:12,836
He wanted to play
as much as he could.
2515
02:21:12,869 --> 02:21:15,372
So we never stopped
for one second.
2516
02:21:15,406 --> 02:21:17,617
Announcer: Ladies and gentlemen
and the Deadheads of the world,
2517
02:21:17,641 --> 02:21:18,875
the Grateful Dead!
2518
02:21:27,451 --> 02:21:31,087
Weir: When we came back
together,
2519
02:21:31,121 --> 02:21:34,024
everybody had
a bigger bag of tricks
2520
02:21:34,057 --> 02:21:36,092
to bring back to the fold.
2521
02:21:38,028 --> 02:21:40,764
And that was really
a golden era for us.
2522
02:21:42,999 --> 02:21:44,835
You could pretty much
walk into a show
2523
02:21:44,868 --> 02:21:49,773
and expect that we were
going to achieve liftoff.
2524
02:21:49,806 --> 02:21:53,877
We were... We were
pretty damn reliable.
2525
02:21:53,910 --> 02:21:55,646
♪ Oh, go
2526
02:21:55,679 --> 02:21:57,147
♪ Go, Johnny, go
2527
02:21:57,180 --> 02:21:58,181
♪ Go
2528
02:21:58,214 --> 02:21:59,883
♪ Go, Johnny, go
2529
02:21:59,916 --> 02:22:02,018
♪ Go go go
2530
02:22:02,052 --> 02:22:03,987
♪ Go, Johnny, go
2531
02:22:04,020 --> 02:22:05,889
♪ Go, Johnny, go
2532
02:22:05,922 --> 02:22:07,991
♪ Go
2533
02:22:08,024 --> 02:22:09,125
♪ Johnny B. Goode
2534
02:22:13,864 --> 02:22:15,766
Lesh:
That period, the late '70s,
2535
02:22:15,799 --> 02:22:18,635
were extraordinarily productive,
2536
02:22:18,669 --> 02:22:20,537
and some of the most
popular shows
2537
02:22:20,571 --> 02:22:23,940
that we've ever played
are from that period.
2538
02:22:25,108 --> 02:22:27,444
At the same time,
2539
02:22:27,478 --> 02:22:29,012
something wasn't right.
2540
02:22:30,814 --> 02:22:33,617
That's just from my perspective.
2541
02:22:33,650 --> 02:22:35,886
But something fundamental...
2542
02:22:35,919 --> 02:22:38,555
There was a...
There was a kind of hole
2543
02:22:38,589 --> 02:22:40,791
in the whole thing somehow.
2544
02:22:45,562 --> 02:22:47,063
Barlow:
We did do the Egypt thing,
2545
02:22:47,097 --> 02:22:49,866
which I think was a huge,
2546
02:22:49,900 --> 02:22:53,203
huge thing for creating a sense
2547
02:22:53,236 --> 02:22:56,673
of solidarity
and mystical purpose
2548
02:22:56,707 --> 02:22:58,909
for just about everybody.
2549
02:23:00,811 --> 02:23:04,080
But, oh God, it was just...
2550
02:23:04,114 --> 02:23:06,483
There was all manner
of wickedness.
2551
02:23:06,517 --> 02:23:09,586
♪ Long distance runner
2552
02:23:09,620 --> 02:23:11,221
♪ What you holdin' out for?
2553
02:23:11,254 --> 02:23:15,559
Parish: As darker drugs
moved into the scene,
2554
02:23:15,592 --> 02:23:18,595
it became more about trying
to protect your brothers
2555
02:23:18,629 --> 02:23:22,499
from falling too deep into
things that you knew about.
2556
02:23:22,533 --> 02:23:24,801
I was a streetwise kid,
2557
02:23:24,835 --> 02:23:26,178
and I knew everything
that happened
2558
02:23:26,202 --> 02:23:29,205
when you fucked around
with heroin.
2559
02:23:29,239 --> 02:23:32,208
But Jerry,
he got caught up in it.
2560
02:23:32,242 --> 02:23:35,779
♪ The more that you give,
the more it will take ♪
2561
02:23:38,148 --> 02:23:43,687
♪ To the thin line beyond
which you really can't fake ♪
2562
02:23:43,720 --> 02:23:47,858
♪ Fire, fire on the mountain
2563
02:23:50,060 --> 02:23:54,230
♪ Fire, fire on the mountain
2564
02:23:56,299 --> 02:23:58,101
♪ Fire
2565
02:23:58,134 --> 02:24:01,304
Parish: Jerry was the epitome
of the Grateful Dead,
2566
02:24:01,337 --> 02:24:03,874
the heart and soul of it.
2567
02:24:03,907 --> 02:24:07,744
He was responsible
for being the guy
2568
02:24:07,778 --> 02:24:13,083
to keep this whole machination
that we have built goin'.
2569
02:24:13,116 --> 02:24:15,251
And it's hard
to live up to that.
2570
02:24:17,287 --> 02:24:19,656
The drugs that go along
with being that person
2571
02:24:19,690 --> 02:24:25,796
are not conducive
to health and life.
2572
02:24:25,829 --> 02:24:28,865
Barlow: You know,
we were asking ourselves
2573
02:24:28,899 --> 02:24:33,103
to maintain a kind of
creative openness
2574
02:24:33,136 --> 02:24:37,140
and leaning-into-it-ness...
2575
02:24:37,173 --> 02:24:40,076
and passion and all that stuff.
2576
02:24:43,013 --> 02:24:46,116
As we got older,
it just got harder.
2577
02:24:49,620 --> 02:24:52,055
And it was all kind of
gathering ourselves up
2578
02:24:52,088 --> 02:24:54,625
for what was gonna be...
2579
02:24:54,658 --> 02:24:56,259
What turned out to be our...
2580
02:24:56,292 --> 02:24:57,861
You know, our big decade,
2581
02:24:57,894 --> 02:25:01,598
which was the '80s,
going into the nineties.
2582
02:25:24,129 --> 02:25:26,431
I hope there are people
watching this documentary
2583
02:25:26,465 --> 02:25:28,133
who don't know the Dead
2584
02:25:28,167 --> 02:25:30,602
or are just being
introduced to the Dead.
2585
02:25:30,635 --> 02:25:32,404
And I think you're gonna ask me
2586
02:25:32,437 --> 02:25:34,006
about some... I don't know...
2587
02:25:34,039 --> 02:25:35,841
What you're gonna
ask me about, but...
2588
02:25:51,190 --> 02:25:53,458
Prankster: Tonight's acid
test will remain in part
2589
02:25:53,492 --> 02:25:55,560
from its paralysis voyage
into the void
2590
02:25:55,594 --> 02:25:57,129
for the remainder of the night.
2591
02:25:57,162 --> 02:25:59,064
That's right. Just a...
2592
02:25:59,098 --> 02:26:00,375
- Hey, Bear.
- Get off the stage, will you?
2593
02:26:00,399 --> 02:26:01,566
What's that?
2594
02:26:01,600 --> 02:26:03,235
Al Franken:
Are you gonna have,
2595
02:26:03,268 --> 02:26:05,337
like, an animated Jerry
over your shoulder
2596
02:26:05,370 --> 02:26:08,473
going like,
"Oh, I wouldn't do that"?
2597
02:26:10,242 --> 02:26:12,644
Is that like an idea
you can put in the movie?
2598
02:26:20,920 --> 02:26:23,555
I'm not a Grateful Dead scholar.
2599
02:26:23,588 --> 02:26:26,125
I'm a Grateful Dead fan.
2600
02:26:28,027 --> 02:26:29,428
You know...
2601
02:26:30,562 --> 02:26:31,562
I'm a Deadhead.
2602
02:26:33,665 --> 02:26:35,367
We caught up with the band
2603
02:26:35,400 --> 02:26:36,601
in Hartford, Connecticut,
2604
02:26:36,635 --> 02:26:40,039
and their fans
called the Deadheads.
2605
02:26:40,072 --> 02:26:42,374
Perhaps as important
as the Dead themselves...
2606
02:26:42,407 --> 02:26:43,475
The Deadheads.
2607
02:26:43,508 --> 02:26:45,277
Self-described Deadheads
2608
02:26:45,310 --> 02:26:47,446
who are undoubtedly
the most enthusiastic cult...
2609
02:26:47,479 --> 02:26:49,090
Male reporter: Deadheads...
A faithful following
2610
02:26:49,114 --> 02:26:51,516
that comes here again
and again for the music,
2611
02:26:51,550 --> 02:26:54,386
but at the same time
a whole lot more.
2612
02:26:54,419 --> 02:26:56,355
Man: Yep.
They're Deadheads.
2613
02:27:00,425 --> 02:27:02,627
McNally: In, uh, 1984,
2614
02:27:02,661 --> 02:27:04,964
I became the Grateful Dead's
publicist.
2615
02:27:04,997 --> 02:27:06,631
We'll start in about 15 minutes.
2616
02:27:06,665 --> 02:27:10,569
I got hired because the
receptionist said, "You know,
2617
02:27:10,602 --> 02:27:12,571
"the media calls,
and nobody calls them back,
2618
02:27:12,604 --> 02:27:15,407
and they yell at me,
and I don't like it."
2619
02:27:15,440 --> 02:27:18,577
And Garcia said, "Ah, get McNally to do it.
He knows that shit."
2620
02:27:20,379 --> 02:27:23,015
By the middle 1980s,
2621
02:27:23,048 --> 02:27:24,950
the people of my generation,
2622
02:27:24,984 --> 02:27:27,419
all these people are now
in their middle 30s.
2623
02:27:27,452 --> 02:27:28,954
They have careers.
2624
02:27:28,988 --> 02:27:31,056
Some of them are in the media.
2625
02:27:31,090 --> 02:27:33,692
They not only know
about the Grateful Dead,
2626
02:27:33,725 --> 02:27:35,260
they want to cover
the Grateful Dead,
2627
02:27:35,294 --> 02:27:36,628
and they want
to do it positively.
2628
02:27:36,661 --> 02:27:39,064
So they're gonna send a camera.
2629
02:27:39,098 --> 02:27:41,433
The Grateful Dead
are one of the...
2630
02:27:41,466 --> 02:27:43,302
The press would arrive.
2631
02:27:43,335 --> 02:27:46,972
They would be assaulted
by this incredible scene...
2632
02:27:49,008 --> 02:27:50,442
...and suddenly
the story became
2633
02:27:50,475 --> 02:27:53,212
not the band but Deadheads.
2634
02:27:54,546 --> 02:27:57,649
And everybody
had the same question.
2635
02:27:57,682 --> 02:28:00,019
Man: Okay, what is it
about the Grateful Dead?
2636
02:28:00,052 --> 02:28:02,454
What is it about the Grateful
Dead that brings you here?
2637
02:28:02,487 --> 02:28:03,688
Woman:
Why are you a Deadhead?
2638
02:28:03,722 --> 02:28:05,090
Why am I a Deadhead?
2639
02:28:05,124 --> 02:28:06,625
Wow. What is this for?
Is this, like,
2640
02:28:06,658 --> 02:28:08,727
just for your own
personal satisfaction,
2641
02:28:08,760 --> 02:28:10,062
or is this like...
2642
02:28:12,564 --> 02:28:16,268
Wow, that's weird. Wow.
Do you, like... Is this fun?
2643
02:28:21,073 --> 02:28:22,374
Box slate.
2644
02:28:23,642 --> 02:28:25,610
Back to the Grateful Dead.
2645
02:28:28,347 --> 02:28:32,117
In the 1980s, I had retired,
2646
02:28:32,151 --> 02:28:34,619
and I wanted to write a book.
2647
02:28:34,653 --> 02:28:36,488
And so for two years
2648
02:28:36,521 --> 02:28:38,423
I took this tape recorder out
2649
02:28:38,457 --> 02:28:41,460
and started to do
these interviews.
2650
02:28:44,263 --> 02:28:46,165
Joe Smith on tape:
Jerry, thank you for this.
2651
02:28:46,198 --> 02:28:47,708
- You know I'm doing this book.
- Garcia: Yeah.
2652
02:28:47,732 --> 02:28:49,401
And you're a very key
player in it,
2653
02:28:49,434 --> 02:28:51,303
so I if you got a few minutes
2654
02:28:51,336 --> 02:28:53,172
- I'd just like to talk.
- Absolutely, man.
2655
02:28:53,205 --> 02:28:55,340
You know, I, I have such
a fond feeling for you guys.
2656
02:28:55,374 --> 02:28:57,176
Smith: Well, this is
years later, you know,
2657
02:28:57,209 --> 02:28:58,643
and all the venom
2658
02:28:58,677 --> 02:29:00,612
that had been taken
out of the relationship...
2659
02:29:00,645 --> 02:29:03,382
Smith: Why is it
that this one aggregation,
2660
02:29:03,415 --> 02:29:04,816
this one combination,
2661
02:29:04,849 --> 02:29:07,586
can continue to do it
23, 24 years later
2662
02:29:07,619 --> 02:29:10,089
with audiences that weren't
alive the first time around.
2663
02:29:10,122 --> 02:29:12,124
- Right.
- What is it that you guys got?
2664
02:29:12,157 --> 02:29:13,658
I haven't the slightest
idea, Joe.
2665
02:29:13,692 --> 02:29:15,794
It is one of the great
phenomenons
2666
02:29:15,827 --> 02:29:17,562
of the entertainment world.
2667
02:29:17,596 --> 02:29:19,331
I think now,
during the eighties,
2668
02:29:19,364 --> 02:29:22,567
the Grateful Dead kind of
represents something
2669
02:29:22,601 --> 02:29:25,204
like hopping railroads,
you know what I mean?
2670
02:29:25,237 --> 02:29:26,647
- Yeah.
- Some... Something like that,
2671
02:29:26,671 --> 02:29:28,273
or being on the road
like Kerouac.
2672
02:29:28,307 --> 02:29:30,109
- Yeah, yeah.
- It... it...
2673
02:29:30,142 --> 02:29:31,852
But you can't do those
types of things anymore,
2674
02:29:31,876 --> 02:29:33,545
but you can be a Deadhead.
2675
02:29:33,578 --> 02:29:35,247
You can get in your van
2676
02:29:35,280 --> 02:29:36,520
and go with the other Deadheads
2677
02:29:36,548 --> 02:29:38,317
across the United States.
2678
02:29:38,350 --> 02:29:40,051
"Now, that looks
like fun," you know?
2679
02:29:42,454 --> 02:29:44,123
You have your war stories,
you know?
2680
02:29:44,156 --> 02:29:45,524
- Yeah.
- Stories about the time
2681
02:29:45,557 --> 02:29:47,326
that you were driving
through Des Plains
2682
02:29:47,359 --> 02:29:49,528
in the middle of the night,
got four flat tires,
2683
02:29:49,561 --> 02:29:51,430
and some farmer helped you out
2684
02:29:51,463 --> 02:29:52,831
and put you up and...
2685
02:29:52,864 --> 02:29:54,399
I think that's
2686
02:29:54,433 --> 02:29:56,601
what motivates
the audience now...
2687
02:29:56,635 --> 02:29:59,538
The spirit of being
able to go out
2688
02:29:59,571 --> 02:30:01,506
and have an adventure
in America at large,
2689
02:30:01,540 --> 02:30:02,774
you know what I mean?
2690
02:30:02,807 --> 02:30:04,376
Woman: We're here.
2691
02:30:07,346 --> 02:30:10,749
We were chasing your ass
all the way across country.
2692
02:30:10,782 --> 02:30:13,385
Man: We've been chasing you
from fucking Nebraska.
2693
02:30:13,418 --> 02:30:14,862
Garcia: The whole thing
is that Deadheads
2694
02:30:14,886 --> 02:30:16,821
have a certain
sense of adventure,
2695
02:30:16,855 --> 02:30:19,524
and it's tough
to come by adventure
2696
02:30:19,558 --> 02:30:22,461
in this new, lame America.
2697
02:30:22,494 --> 02:30:24,429
Male reporter: Roll over,
Boogaloo Shrimp.
2698
02:30:24,463 --> 02:30:26,431
That's the First Lady
Nancy Reagan
2699
02:30:26,465 --> 02:30:28,333
trying out some
break dance steps today
2700
02:30:28,367 --> 02:30:30,735
on a visit to a New York
rehab home for teens.
2701
02:30:30,769 --> 02:30:33,305
Now she ready
to slip on some tie-dye
2702
02:30:33,338 --> 02:30:35,340
and go to a Dead concert.
2703
02:30:35,374 --> 02:30:39,511
McNally: Ronald Reagan is
president in the eighties,
2704
02:30:39,544 --> 02:30:43,215
and the great reaction
had begun.
2705
02:30:43,248 --> 02:30:44,749
As a matter of fact,
I have here...
2706
02:30:44,783 --> 02:30:46,651
The reaction
against the sixties.
2707
02:30:46,685 --> 02:30:48,520
...District Attorney
of Alameda County.
2708
02:30:48,553 --> 02:30:50,355
It concerns a dance...
2709
02:30:50,389 --> 02:30:52,424
Ronald Reagan ran as governor
2710
02:30:52,457 --> 02:30:55,294
and as president
against the sixties,
2711
02:30:55,327 --> 02:30:56,495
and it worked.
2712
02:30:56,528 --> 02:30:57,796
Three rock and roll bands
2713
02:30:57,829 --> 02:30:59,631
were in the center
of the gymnasium
2714
02:30:59,664 --> 02:31:01,376
playing simultaneously
all during the dance.
2715
02:31:01,400 --> 02:31:02,701
And all during the dance,
2716
02:31:02,734 --> 02:31:05,237
movies were shown on two screens
2717
02:31:05,270 --> 02:31:07,639
at the opposite ends
of the gymnasium.
2718
02:31:07,672 --> 02:31:10,709
These movies were the only
lights in the gym proper.
2719
02:31:10,742 --> 02:31:12,611
They consisted
of color sequences
2720
02:31:12,644 --> 02:31:14,746
that gave the appearance
of different-colored liquid
2721
02:31:14,779 --> 02:31:16,548
spreading across the screen,
2722
02:31:16,581 --> 02:31:18,950
followed by shots of men
and women on occasion,
2723
02:31:18,983 --> 02:31:21,453
shots where the men
and women's nude torsos,
2724
02:31:21,486 --> 02:31:22,821
on occasion,
2725
02:31:22,854 --> 02:31:24,889
and persons twisted and gyrated
2726
02:31:24,923 --> 02:31:26,625
in provocative
and sensual fashion.
2727
02:31:26,658 --> 02:31:28,603
- ♪ When I married me a bad girl... ♪
- The young...
2728
02:31:28,627 --> 02:31:30,362
McNally: A certain
proportion of Americans
2729
02:31:30,395 --> 02:31:32,364
say "No, we don't think so,"
2730
02:31:32,397 --> 02:31:33,965
and run away to join the circus
2731
02:31:33,998 --> 02:31:35,634
and follow the Grateful Dead.
2732
02:31:35,667 --> 02:31:37,969
♪ Never even put
a stew bone in the pot ♪
2733
02:31:38,002 --> 02:31:40,472
♪ She's on the road again
2734
02:31:40,505 --> 02:31:42,207
♪ Sure as you're born
2735
02:31:42,241 --> 02:31:44,876
♪ Catch a policeman
on the road again ♪
2736
02:31:44,909 --> 02:31:46,945
♪ She's on the road again
2737
02:31:46,978 --> 02:31:48,880
♪ Sure as you're born
2738
02:31:50,415 --> 02:31:51,916
The whole world that, you know,
2739
02:31:51,950 --> 02:31:53,918
kind of, Jack Kerouac
and the Beat Generation
2740
02:31:53,952 --> 02:31:55,387
had risen up against,
2741
02:31:55,420 --> 02:31:57,456
was still kind of
there, you know,
2742
02:31:57,489 --> 02:32:00,359
pressing everybody,
but in new forms.
2743
02:32:00,392 --> 02:32:02,294
But when you went
to a Grateful Dead show...
2744
02:32:03,662 --> 02:32:06,698
you would glimpse
over a kind of horizon
2745
02:32:06,731 --> 02:32:09,501
of, uh, you know, American crap
2746
02:32:09,534 --> 02:32:12,271
that was usually
all you got to see.
2747
02:32:12,304 --> 02:32:13,638
♪ Come on, pretty mama
2748
02:32:13,672 --> 02:32:15,474
♪ Let's get on the road again ♪
2749
02:32:15,507 --> 02:32:17,242
McNally: It wasn't
for everybody, you know.
2750
02:32:17,276 --> 02:32:19,344
It was an acquired taste.
2751
02:32:19,378 --> 02:32:21,646
♪ Catch a policeman
on the road again ♪
2752
02:32:21,680 --> 02:32:22,981
In the early 1980s,
2753
02:32:23,014 --> 02:32:25,884
the Grateful Dead
were still very much
2754
02:32:25,917 --> 02:32:28,387
an underground phenomenon.
2755
02:32:28,420 --> 02:32:32,824
Deadheads became Deadheads
by being mentored.
2756
02:32:32,857 --> 02:32:36,361
You'd have an elder
sibling or friend,
2757
02:32:36,395 --> 02:32:38,363
and he would turn you on
to the Dead.
2758
02:32:40,699 --> 02:32:43,602
I had friends
who would give me acid
2759
02:32:43,635 --> 02:32:44,936
and then play Aoxomoxoa.
2760
02:32:44,969 --> 02:32:47,038
Aoxomoxoa: it's a palindrome.
2761
02:32:47,071 --> 02:32:48,940
One of their most wild
experimental albums.
2762
02:32:50,074 --> 02:32:51,576
And then I had another friend
2763
02:32:51,610 --> 02:32:53,712
who would play me Europe '72.
2764
02:32:55,447 --> 02:32:58,750
And I remember listening
to the transition
2765
02:32:58,783 --> 02:33:02,654
where out of the chaos
2766
02:33:02,687 --> 02:33:05,657
condenses
"The Morning Dew."
2767
02:33:08,693 --> 02:33:11,062
And so that sort of
beguiled me enough
2768
02:33:11,095 --> 02:33:12,397
to go to my first show.
2769
02:33:19,371 --> 02:33:20,639
Whoo!
2770
02:33:20,672 --> 02:33:21,782
Steve Silberman:
And I remember,
2771
02:33:21,806 --> 02:33:23,442
like, 20 minutes into this show,
2772
02:33:23,475 --> 02:33:25,910
I'm hearing this
incredible improvisation
2773
02:33:25,944 --> 02:33:27,679
on electric bass
2774
02:33:27,712 --> 02:33:30,715
played through
quadraphonic speakers
2775
02:33:30,749 --> 02:33:33,552
and Phil moving notes around
2776
02:33:33,585 --> 02:33:36,621
in three dimensions
through the audience.
2777
02:33:36,655 --> 02:33:39,391
Like, I had never
seen anybody do that.
2778
02:33:49,834 --> 02:33:52,671
And I remember
thinking, like, My God,
2779
02:33:52,704 --> 02:33:54,944
this is, like, the best music
I've ever heard in my life.
2780
02:33:56,608 --> 02:33:58,009
This is for me.
2781
02:33:59,711 --> 02:34:02,013
I want to see this
as much as I can.
2782
02:34:03,615 --> 02:34:07,719
♪ Sometimes we live
in no particular way ♪
2783
02:34:07,752 --> 02:34:08,987
♪ But our own
2784
02:34:09,020 --> 02:34:10,989
And so I basically started going
2785
02:34:11,022 --> 02:34:12,557
to see them whenever I could.
2786
02:34:12,591 --> 02:34:15,794
♪ Sometimes we visit
your country ♪
2787
02:34:15,827 --> 02:34:18,397
♪ And live in your home
2788
02:34:21,900 --> 02:34:25,604
♪ Sometimes we ride
on your horses ♪
2789
02:34:25,637 --> 02:34:30,074
♪ Sometimes we walk alone
2790
02:34:30,108 --> 02:34:34,012
♪ Sometimes the songs
that we hear ♪
2791
02:34:34,045 --> 02:34:36,047
♪ Are just songs of our own
2792
02:34:39,584 --> 02:34:41,720
♪ Wake up to find out...
2793
02:34:41,753 --> 02:34:43,522
Silberman:
You know, I was surrounded
2794
02:34:43,555 --> 02:34:45,890
by this incredibly complicated
2795
02:34:45,924 --> 02:34:49,494
and incredibly well
established social structure.
2796
02:34:49,528 --> 02:34:52,163
♪ It's speeches,
it's homeland and... ♪
2797
02:34:52,196 --> 02:34:56,401
The physical layout
of a Grateful Dead show
2798
02:34:56,435 --> 02:34:59,037
was like a mandala
with different regions.
2799
02:35:03,041 --> 02:35:05,009
And if you look at a mandala
2800
02:35:05,043 --> 02:35:08,079
in traditional Tibetan Buddhism,
2801
02:35:08,112 --> 02:35:09,948
there are, like,
these different sectors
2802
02:35:09,981 --> 02:35:11,850
of the mandala.
2803
02:35:11,883 --> 02:35:15,454
You know, here are
the angry gods,
2804
02:35:15,487 --> 02:35:17,856
here are the people suffering.
2805
02:35:21,092 --> 02:35:24,028
Grateful Dead shows
were like a mandala.
2806
02:35:27,031 --> 02:35:30,435
You know, people knew
where they would sit.
2807
02:35:30,469 --> 02:35:33,104
There would be, you know,
the Phil zone people out here
2808
02:35:33,137 --> 02:35:36,775
and then the Jerry side
people over here.
2809
02:35:38,209 --> 02:35:39,711
There would be the deaf zone
2810
02:35:39,744 --> 02:35:42,514
where people would
be holding balloons
2811
02:35:42,547 --> 02:35:47,151
that vibrated with the music
because they could not hear.
2812
02:35:47,185 --> 02:35:49,120
But, by holding the balloons,
2813
02:35:49,153 --> 02:35:51,690
they could literally sense
the vibrations of the music.
2814
02:35:51,723 --> 02:35:53,625
And they would dance,
2815
02:35:53,658 --> 02:35:56,928
and there would be a live
sign language interpreter
2816
02:35:56,961 --> 02:35:59,564
providing interpretation
of the lyrics.
2817
02:36:03,201 --> 02:36:05,770
There was, you know,
a whole crew of Wharf Rats,
2818
02:36:05,804 --> 02:36:08,507
who were people following
the 12-step path,
2819
02:36:08,540 --> 02:36:11,476
who would have meetings
during the set breaks.
2820
02:36:13,845 --> 02:36:16,681
Spinners would be out
in the hall, you know,
2821
02:36:16,715 --> 02:36:19,818
having literally
religious experiences
2822
02:36:19,851 --> 02:36:21,620
because they thought
Garcia was a prophet,
2823
02:36:21,653 --> 02:36:23,588
and they'd be bowing down.
2824
02:36:25,724 --> 02:36:27,225
Or there were tapers.
2825
02:36:27,258 --> 02:36:28,960
They would, you know,
2826
02:36:28,993 --> 02:36:31,462
go there with all their gear
and set up their gear.
2827
02:36:33,064 --> 02:36:35,834
♪ The wind in the willow's
playing "Tea For Two" ♪
2828
02:36:38,737 --> 02:36:42,073
♪ The sky was yellow,
and the sun was blue ♪
2829
02:36:44,743 --> 02:36:47,912
♪ Strangers stopping strangers ♪
2830
02:36:47,946 --> 02:36:50,782
♪ Just to shake their hand
2831
02:36:50,815 --> 02:36:53,752
♪ Everybody's playing
2832
02:36:53,785 --> 02:36:57,656
♪ In the heart of gold band,
heart of gold band ♪
2833
02:36:57,689 --> 02:36:59,824
When I first started
going to Dead shows,
2834
02:36:59,858 --> 02:37:04,863
they didn't yet have explicit
permission from the band,
2835
02:37:04,896 --> 02:37:07,265
so it was still in a sense
a form of bootlegging.
2836
02:37:09,568 --> 02:37:11,169
Weir: Portable
recording equipment
2837
02:37:11,202 --> 02:37:13,204
was getting pretty good.
2838
02:37:13,237 --> 02:37:15,640
And people started
showing up at our shows
2839
02:37:15,674 --> 02:37:17,542
with expensive equipment...
2840
02:37:17,576 --> 02:37:19,778
Nice microphones,
all that kind of stuff...
2841
02:37:19,811 --> 02:37:21,112
Recording the shows,
2842
02:37:21,145 --> 02:37:23,582
and the record company
wanted to, you know,
2843
02:37:23,615 --> 02:37:26,117
"We gotta shut that down,"
uh, you know,
2844
02:37:26,150 --> 02:37:28,119
"because those people are
gonna record your shows,
2845
02:37:28,152 --> 02:37:30,188
and then they're not
gonna buy our records."
2846
02:37:30,221 --> 02:37:32,223
We were confronted
with two options:
2847
02:37:32,256 --> 02:37:35,026
we can either be cops,
or we can let 'em in.
2848
02:37:36,160 --> 02:37:38,630
We didn't want to be cops.
2849
02:37:38,663 --> 02:37:39,864
Whoo!
2850
02:37:39,898 --> 02:37:42,000
♪ Shakin' on Shakedown Street ♪
2851
02:37:44,135 --> 02:37:46,337
♪ Used to be the heart of town ♪
2852
02:37:46,370 --> 02:37:50,008
How do you feel about people
taping Grateful Dead concerts
2853
02:37:50,041 --> 02:37:51,876
and trading the tapes?
2854
02:37:51,910 --> 02:37:53,277
Garcia: Hey,
when I'm done with it,
2855
02:37:53,311 --> 02:37:54,946
if somebody can find
use for our music
2856
02:37:54,979 --> 02:37:56,915
after it's been performed,
fine with me.
2857
02:37:58,049 --> 02:38:00,819
As it turns out, we get credit
2858
02:38:00,852 --> 02:38:04,355
for all kinds of visionary
business practices
2859
02:38:04,388 --> 02:38:05,757
and stuff like that.
2860
02:38:05,790 --> 02:38:07,167
We were just doing
the easiest thing.
2861
02:38:07,191 --> 02:38:08,793
In fact, what happened was,
2862
02:38:08,827 --> 02:38:10,862
this was the greatest promo tool
2863
02:38:10,895 --> 02:38:13,231
in the history of music.
2864
02:38:13,264 --> 02:38:18,136
You give away your music...
Your recorded music,
2865
02:38:18,169 --> 02:38:20,071
and you make your money
on selling tickets.
2866
02:38:20,104 --> 02:38:22,206
♪ Maybe you had
too much too fast ♪
2867
02:38:22,240 --> 02:38:24,108
And since every show
is different,
2868
02:38:24,142 --> 02:38:25,744
you could record every show,
2869
02:38:25,777 --> 02:38:27,254
and you still wouldn't
have heard it all,
2870
02:38:27,278 --> 02:38:29,380
and you'd still want
to go to that next show.
2871
02:38:29,413 --> 02:38:31,215
♪ Maybe you had
too much too fast ♪
2872
02:38:31,249 --> 02:38:33,918
We doubled or tripled
our audience. Why?
2873
02:38:33,952 --> 02:38:34,992
Largely because of taping.
2874
02:38:36,054 --> 02:38:37,054
Yow!
2875
02:38:41,693 --> 02:38:44,863
My generation got into it
mainly through tapes.
2876
02:38:46,297 --> 02:38:48,399
The core of the canon
reached people
2877
02:38:48,432 --> 02:38:50,835
through this hand-traded stuff.
2878
02:38:50,869 --> 02:38:52,804
If this plays, it's a miracle.
2879
02:38:56,775 --> 02:38:58,342
I went to boarding school.
2880
02:38:58,376 --> 02:38:59,978
You know, we were in a place
2881
02:39:00,011 --> 02:39:01,412
where there wasn't
much else to do
2882
02:39:01,445 --> 02:39:02,947
besides, you know, sit around
2883
02:39:02,981 --> 02:39:04,883
and listen to music and talk.
2884
02:39:04,916 --> 02:39:06,985
You start to discover
that some people,
2885
02:39:07,018 --> 02:39:09,153
the older people,
have, you know,
2886
02:39:09,187 --> 02:39:12,724
100, 150, 200
Grateful Dead tapes.
2887
02:39:12,757 --> 02:39:14,726
Well, you listen to one,
2888
02:39:14,759 --> 02:39:16,303
and you begin to understand
what's going on in that tape,
2889
02:39:16,327 --> 02:39:17,896
and you become interested in it.
2890
02:39:17,929 --> 02:39:19,306
You listen to it
over and over again.
2891
02:39:19,330 --> 02:39:21,099
And then you get another one,
2892
02:39:21,132 --> 02:39:22,877
and you begin to learn
what's going on in that one,
2893
02:39:22,901 --> 02:39:24,344
and you begin to understand
the language of that one.
2894
02:39:24,368 --> 02:39:25,870
Play.
2895
02:39:27,371 --> 02:39:29,240
And, you know, over time...
2896
02:39:30,909 --> 02:39:32,243
you build up this collection,
2897
02:39:32,276 --> 02:39:34,012
and you listen to them enough
2898
02:39:34,045 --> 02:39:36,180
so that you begin to see
an arrangement in a sequence
2899
02:39:36,214 --> 02:39:38,382
and a narrative of
the band's performances
2900
02:39:38,416 --> 02:39:40,251
as are represented
by these tapes,
2901
02:39:40,284 --> 02:39:42,854
which, you know,
are little snapshots
2902
02:39:42,887 --> 02:39:45,757
from each year, each tour.
2903
02:39:50,261 --> 02:39:52,072
To start with, you know,
you're not really aware
2904
02:39:52,096 --> 02:39:55,399
of one year being
different from another,
2905
02:39:55,433 --> 02:39:57,736
but after a while, you begin
to say "Oh, you know,
2906
02:39:57,769 --> 02:39:59,137
1971 sounds like this."
2907
02:40:07,211 --> 02:40:09,313
1973 sounds like this.
2908
02:40:14,452 --> 02:40:17,021
Later, you learn
that there was variation
2909
02:40:17,055 --> 02:40:19,958
even within that year, within
that week, within each night.
2910
02:40:22,060 --> 02:40:23,862
I think that's
part of the appeal.
2911
02:40:23,895 --> 02:40:25,339
You start to understand
what's going on in the music.
2912
02:40:25,363 --> 02:40:27,098
You hear the patterns.
2913
02:40:27,131 --> 02:40:29,768
You hear the deviations
from the patterns.
2914
02:40:29,801 --> 02:40:32,804
The differences
between recordings
2915
02:40:32,837 --> 02:40:34,839
makes it seems alive.
2916
02:40:34,873 --> 02:40:37,008
♪ Dancin' in the street
2917
02:40:37,041 --> 02:40:39,410
♪ Dance in Chicago
2918
02:40:39,443 --> 02:40:41,045
You're really hearing
2919
02:40:41,079 --> 02:40:42,781
how each, you know,
musical performance
2920
02:40:42,814 --> 02:40:44,182
represents an evolution
2921
02:40:44,215 --> 02:40:46,084
or devolution
of the band over time.
2922
02:40:46,117 --> 02:40:48,152
♪ Dancin', dancin'
2923
02:40:48,186 --> 02:40:49,988
♪ Dancin' in the streets
2924
02:40:50,021 --> 02:40:52,223
♪ Dancin', dancin'
2925
02:40:52,256 --> 02:40:54,092
♪ dancin' in the streets
2926
02:40:54,125 --> 02:40:55,860
For the discerning Deadhead,
2927
02:40:55,894 --> 02:40:58,296
it's sort of an endlessly
fascinating body of work
2928
02:40:58,329 --> 02:41:01,299
to say this one...
This one's good in this way,
2929
02:41:01,332 --> 02:41:03,201
and this one's
not good in this way.
2930
02:41:03,234 --> 02:41:04,468
You know, this one...
2931
02:41:04,502 --> 02:41:06,270
This one's really good,
and this is why.
2932
02:41:10,474 --> 02:41:12,911
There's a central irony
to the whole thing,
2933
02:41:12,944 --> 02:41:15,513
which is the band that was
sort of most dedicated
2934
02:41:15,546 --> 02:41:17,415
to the ephemeral experience
of playing live,
2935
02:41:17,448 --> 02:41:19,818
performing something once
in a certain way,
2936
02:41:19,851 --> 02:41:21,352
is the band that's been sort of
2937
02:41:21,385 --> 02:41:25,957
most obsessively recorded
and catalogued in history.
2938
02:41:31,095 --> 02:41:34,265
You know, I never had
a great collection.
2939
02:41:34,298 --> 02:41:36,100
In fact, some of the people
2940
02:41:36,134 --> 02:41:37,435
that had the great collections,
2941
02:41:37,468 --> 02:41:38,970
I mean, they were...
2942
02:41:39,003 --> 02:41:40,504
They were weird, you know?
2943
02:41:46,878 --> 02:41:48,212
Al Franken:
You know, I mean,
2944
02:41:48,246 --> 02:41:50,014
I've listened
to a million "Althea" s.
2945
02:41:51,182 --> 02:41:53,885
Now I very much focus on, like,
2946
02:41:53,918 --> 02:41:56,354
what year when
an "Althea" was played.
2947
02:41:57,621 --> 02:42:00,825
The "Althea," uh,
2948
02:42:00,859 --> 02:42:03,294
from, I think it's May, 1980,
2949
02:42:03,327 --> 02:42:05,396
Nassau Coliseum,
2950
02:42:05,429 --> 02:42:10,468
to me is, like,
the most hair-raising solo.
2951
02:42:12,570 --> 02:42:16,074
My God, that solo
is unbelievable.
2952
02:42:19,043 --> 02:42:21,512
It was so unbelievably great.
2953
02:42:25,917 --> 02:42:27,118
You tell me... You...
2954
02:42:27,151 --> 02:42:29,620
Hampton is one of
your favorites, right?
2955
02:42:36,094 --> 02:42:39,030
So I listened
to the "Althea" from that,
2956
02:42:39,063 --> 02:42:42,166
and that has the flavor
of that one,
2957
02:42:42,200 --> 02:42:44,202
but it ain't that one.
2958
02:43:04,255 --> 02:43:05,966
- Did you listen to it?
- Amir Bar Lev: Yeah.
2959
02:43:05,990 --> 02:43:07,992
- Am I right?
- Yeah.
2960
02:43:15,099 --> 02:43:18,436
Only Deadheads would,
like, talk like that.
2961
02:43:23,174 --> 02:43:24,551
Silberman: Believe me,
after you'd heard
2962
02:43:24,575 --> 02:43:27,478
150 versions
of a particular song,
2963
02:43:27,511 --> 02:43:30,448
you'd have a kind of platonic
form of the leads,
2964
02:43:30,481 --> 02:43:32,316
or whatever, like, in your head.
2965
02:43:32,350 --> 02:43:34,986
And then Jerry would play
something slightly better.
2966
02:43:38,389 --> 02:43:41,025
So I would have to sort
of negotiate with myself.
2967
02:43:41,059 --> 02:43:43,962
It would be like, "Well,
I saw the last six shows,
2968
02:43:43,995 --> 02:43:46,497
so do I really need to see
the next two?" you know.
2969
02:43:46,530 --> 02:43:48,632
But inevitably I would
end up, like, hearing
2970
02:43:48,666 --> 02:43:50,410
about what they'd played on
the night that I didn't go,
2971
02:43:50,434 --> 02:43:51,535
and I'd be like, "Fuck."
2972
02:43:51,569 --> 02:43:53,237
The Dead had a way
2973
02:43:53,271 --> 02:43:55,006
of sort of frustrating
your attempts
2974
02:43:55,039 --> 02:43:57,075
to moderate the obsession.
2975
02:43:57,108 --> 02:43:59,277
You guys got any extra
tickets for tonight?
2976
02:43:59,310 --> 02:44:01,045
- I don't have any extra ones...
- Come on.
2977
02:44:01,079 --> 02:44:02,322
- ...for tonight myself.
- You don't?
2978
02:44:02,346 --> 02:44:04,115
But I'm sure they'll be around.
2979
02:44:04,148 --> 02:44:05,459
- You goin'?
- Oh, of course we're goin'.
2980
02:44:05,483 --> 02:44:07,018
All right.
You go last night?
2981
02:44:07,051 --> 02:44:08,619
Oh, yeah.
2982
02:44:08,652 --> 02:44:11,355
Boy, that was a good
jam, wasn't it?
2983
02:44:19,563 --> 02:44:21,032
Man: Where'd you guys
come from?
2984
02:44:21,065 --> 02:44:22,333
Rhode Island.
2985
02:44:22,366 --> 02:44:24,368
All the way from Rhode
Island to see the Dead.
2986
02:44:24,402 --> 02:44:26,037
Took us a week to get here.
2987
02:44:26,070 --> 02:44:27,438
We had a hell of a time, man.
2988
02:44:27,471 --> 02:44:29,673
Two months to get back home.
2989
02:44:29,707 --> 02:44:32,543
I left last week, and it
took six days to get here.
2990
02:44:33,777 --> 02:44:35,646
It was pretty fun on the way.
2991
02:44:35,679 --> 02:44:37,281
Spent Christmas in Arcata.
2992
02:44:37,315 --> 02:44:40,251
Anything within 600 miles
is automatic.
2993
02:44:40,284 --> 02:44:42,020
You can make that in one night
2994
02:44:42,053 --> 02:44:44,288
and still make it to work
in the morning.
2995
02:44:44,322 --> 02:44:46,357
Last night was my 45th
show this year.
2996
02:44:46,390 --> 02:44:48,459
I make almost all
the shows of the year.
2997
02:44:48,492 --> 02:44:51,262
I drive that big Ford.
2998
02:44:51,295 --> 02:44:53,664
And you guys, uh,
off the record,
2999
02:44:53,697 --> 02:44:55,566
are welcome to smoke
a joint with us.
3000
02:44:57,468 --> 02:44:59,103
But I really need
a miracle for tonight,
3001
02:44:59,137 --> 02:45:01,339
you know, like, I'd like
to be holdin' a ticket.
3002
02:45:01,372 --> 02:45:03,307
You know what I mean?
I really would.
3003
02:45:03,341 --> 02:45:06,610
♪ I need a miracle every day
3004
02:45:06,644 --> 02:45:08,146
Got any tickets?
3005
02:45:08,179 --> 02:45:10,148
♪ It takes dynamite
to get me up ♪
3006
02:45:10,181 --> 02:45:12,650
Help me, please!
3007
02:45:12,683 --> 02:45:15,553
♪ Too much of everything
is just enough ♪
3008
02:45:15,586 --> 02:45:19,523
♪ One more thing
I just got to say ♪
3009
02:45:19,557 --> 02:45:23,094
♪ I need a miracle every day
3010
02:45:25,363 --> 02:45:28,399
You know, I started going
to see them in 1984,
3011
02:45:28,432 --> 02:45:30,601
and I remember
at that point, they still...
3012
02:45:30,634 --> 02:45:32,736
Still were a strange,
3013
02:45:32,770 --> 02:45:35,273
forgotten, almost sixties cult
3014
02:45:35,306 --> 02:45:37,108
that was sort of shambling
around America
3015
02:45:37,141 --> 02:45:39,477
pretty much ignored
by the culture at large.
3016
02:45:41,179 --> 02:45:45,049
It was a pretty intense,
small scene.
3017
02:45:45,083 --> 02:45:47,318
It was overwhelming,
and it was kind of scary.
3018
02:45:47,351 --> 02:45:49,187
We were 15.
3019
02:45:49,220 --> 02:45:51,122
You know, I was sort of
a clean-cut kid,
3020
02:45:51,155 --> 02:45:53,424
and it was not a clean-cut
scene necessarily.
3021
02:45:53,457 --> 02:45:55,059
What'cha need?
3022
02:45:55,093 --> 02:45:59,497
The sense of menace
was always there.
3023
02:45:59,530 --> 02:46:01,365
Which I didn't quite
understand myself.
3024
02:46:01,399 --> 02:46:02,476
You know, the bikers
that would go,
3025
02:46:02,500 --> 02:46:03,734
rough guys, there were drunks.
3026
02:46:03,767 --> 02:46:05,503
I didn't, kind of,
get that part.
3027
02:46:05,536 --> 02:46:06,737
Fuck off, you.
3028
02:46:06,770 --> 02:46:08,406
Franken: You know,
I'm a very,
3029
02:46:08,439 --> 02:46:10,308
you know, gentle person.
3030
02:46:10,341 --> 02:46:12,810
Nick Paumgarten: And sometimes
it was just a madhouse.
3031
02:46:12,843 --> 02:46:16,614
So that... that aspect of it
just frightened me.
3032
02:46:18,549 --> 02:46:19,750
I remember, sort of,
3033
02:46:19,783 --> 02:46:21,285
survival was sort of the thing
3034
02:46:21,319 --> 02:46:22,786
when I went to shows...
3035
02:46:22,820 --> 02:46:26,290
Surviving the crowds
and the bathroom lines.
3036
02:46:27,358 --> 02:46:28,592
Franken:
I couldn't go
3037
02:46:28,626 --> 02:46:29,827
to the bathroom there.
3038
02:46:29,860 --> 02:46:32,196
And, I remember, like, Deadheads
3039
02:46:32,230 --> 02:46:34,598
who were barefoot going in
3040
02:46:34,632 --> 02:46:36,234
to go the bathroom,
3041
02:46:36,267 --> 02:46:38,402
and I was, like, going like...
3042
02:46:38,436 --> 02:46:40,638
I can't handle that.
3043
02:46:42,273 --> 02:46:43,774
Man: Thank you.
Thank you very much.
3044
02:46:43,807 --> 02:46:45,709
- Thank you.
- Welcome in, folks.
3045
02:46:45,743 --> 02:46:48,812
Walk, walk, walk.
Don't run, don't run!
3046
02:46:48,846 --> 02:46:50,181
- Walk.
- Here you go.
3047
02:46:52,716 --> 02:46:54,552
Paumgarten:
It was not like, you know,
3048
02:46:54,585 --> 02:46:56,120
being a middle-aged guy
3049
02:46:56,154 --> 02:46:58,189
going to see a show
with your seat number
3050
02:46:58,222 --> 02:47:00,558
and showing up
and maybe getting an IPA
3051
02:47:00,591 --> 02:47:01,892
and being shown to your seat
3052
02:47:01,925 --> 02:47:03,527
and sitting there
and being like, "Oh,
3053
02:47:03,561 --> 02:47:05,496
this is a nice presentation
of decent music."
3054
02:47:05,529 --> 02:47:08,566
It was... It was...
It was an adventure.
3055
02:47:12,936 --> 02:47:14,638
♪ Well, I was feelin'
3056
02:47:15,906 --> 02:47:17,375
♪ So bad now
3057
02:47:19,343 --> 02:47:22,580
♪ Asked my family doctor
'bout what I had done ♪
3058
02:47:23,881 --> 02:47:25,316
♪ I said now, Doctor
3059
02:47:25,349 --> 02:47:26,584
♪ Doctor
3060
02:47:26,617 --> 02:47:27,651
♪ Mr. M.D.
3061
02:47:27,685 --> 02:47:29,220
♪ Doctor
3062
02:47:29,253 --> 02:47:30,621
♪ Ow, can you tell me
3063
02:47:30,654 --> 02:47:31,855
♪ Doctor
3064
02:47:31,889 --> 02:47:33,291
♪ What's ailing me
3065
02:47:33,324 --> 02:47:34,658
♪ Doctor
3066
02:47:34,692 --> 02:47:36,727
♪ He said Yeah, yeah, yeah
3067
02:47:36,760 --> 02:47:38,329
♪ Yeah, yeah
3068
02:47:38,362 --> 02:47:40,364
♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪
3069
02:47:40,398 --> 02:47:41,399
♪ All you need
3070
02:47:42,766 --> 02:47:45,303
♪ All you really need
3071
02:47:45,336 --> 02:47:46,904
♪ Is good lovin'
3072
02:47:46,937 --> 02:47:48,406
♪ Because you got
to have lovin' ♪
3073
02:47:48,439 --> 02:47:49,773
Weir: And as the years
went by...
3074
02:47:49,807 --> 02:47:51,509
♪ Well, you got to have lovin' ♪
3075
02:47:51,542 --> 02:47:52,676
we just got better at it.
3076
02:47:52,710 --> 02:47:54,245
♪ A little bit of lovin'
3077
02:47:54,278 --> 02:47:55,379
♪ Good lovin'
3078
02:47:55,413 --> 02:47:56,614
And then,
3079
02:47:56,647 --> 02:47:58,916
when Brent started
playing with us,
3080
02:47:58,949 --> 02:48:01,352
we had three really good,
strong singers.
3081
02:48:01,385 --> 02:48:03,521
We could really knock it
out of the park
3082
02:48:03,554 --> 02:48:05,189
with our choral vocals.
3083
02:48:05,223 --> 02:48:06,457
♪ Don't you want your daddy
3084
02:48:06,490 --> 02:48:07,791
♪ To be all right?
3085
02:48:07,825 --> 02:48:09,503
Paumgarten: After Keith
and Donna Jean Godchaux
3086
02:48:09,527 --> 02:48:10,694
left the band,
3087
02:48:10,728 --> 02:48:12,763
they brought in Brent Mydland,
3088
02:48:12,796 --> 02:48:15,499
who was a fabulous
keyboard player
3089
02:48:15,533 --> 02:48:17,668
and a wonderful singer,
actually.
3090
02:48:17,701 --> 02:48:20,271
He really revitalized the
backup singing for the band
3091
02:48:20,304 --> 02:48:23,607
and gave it some muscle,
made the sound bigger.
3092
02:48:23,641 --> 02:48:25,809
♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪
3093
02:48:25,843 --> 02:48:27,211
♪ All you need
3094
02:48:27,245 --> 02:48:28,512
You know, and it seemed like,
3095
02:48:28,546 --> 02:48:30,814
for a while,
that they were feeling it.
3096
02:48:30,848 --> 02:48:32,816
♪ Is good lovin'
3097
02:48:32,850 --> 02:48:34,618
♪ Well, you got to have lovin' ♪
3098
02:48:34,652 --> 02:48:35,886
♪ Good lovin'
3099
02:48:35,919 --> 02:48:36,963
♪ And you gotta have lovin'
3100
02:48:36,987 --> 02:48:38,556
♪ Good lovin'
3101
02:48:38,589 --> 02:48:39,923
♪ Oh, a little good lovin'
3102
02:48:39,957 --> 02:48:40,958
♪ Good lovin'
3103
02:48:40,991 --> 02:48:42,460
Get it on!
3104
02:48:42,493 --> 02:48:43,594
♪ Good lovin'
3105
02:48:45,796 --> 02:48:48,332
♪ Gimme, gimme, gimme,
gimme some lovin' ♪
3106
02:48:48,366 --> 02:48:50,734
♪ Ah, you gotta have lovin'
3107
02:48:50,768 --> 02:48:52,336
♪ Good lovin'
3108
02:48:52,370 --> 02:48:54,004
♪ Gimme, gimme,
gimme some lovin' ♪
3109
02:48:54,037 --> 02:48:55,406
- ♪ Good lovin'
- ♪ Ah
3110
02:48:55,439 --> 02:48:56,607
Silberman:
There was something
3111
02:48:56,640 --> 02:48:58,242
that was uncanny
3112
02:48:58,276 --> 02:49:00,944
about the wave form
of a Grateful Dead show.
3113
02:49:00,978 --> 02:49:02,880
- ♪ Got to have lovin'
- ♪ Good lovin'
3114
02:49:02,913 --> 02:49:04,648
You know, there were two sets.
3115
02:49:04,682 --> 02:49:07,918
The first set was usually
more contained musically.
3116
02:49:09,320 --> 02:49:10,688
There would be more kind of
3117
02:49:10,721 --> 02:49:13,491
chorus, verse, you know,
structure of the songs.
3118
02:49:16,294 --> 02:49:17,861
But then, in the second set,
3119
02:49:17,895 --> 02:49:20,898
almost anything could happen.
3120
02:49:23,767 --> 02:49:26,637
There would be a period
in the second set
3121
02:49:26,670 --> 02:49:28,806
where you would be
actually brought back
3122
02:49:28,839 --> 02:49:33,577
to the very elemental
essence of music
3123
02:49:33,611 --> 02:49:35,479
by the drums and space sections.
3124
02:49:44,555 --> 02:49:46,690
Percussive rhythms
from the jungle...
3125
02:49:48,492 --> 02:49:50,961
or from the desert
in the Middle East.
3126
02:49:56,099 --> 02:49:58,336
Hart: The idea is
to take the audience
3127
02:49:58,369 --> 02:50:00,504
on a trip, you know,
on a journey.
3128
02:50:07,678 --> 02:50:10,414
If you asked me
what business I was in,
3129
02:50:10,448 --> 02:50:12,450
I would say transportation.
3130
02:50:14,752 --> 02:50:16,920
We're in the transportation
business.
3131
02:50:34,104 --> 02:50:37,007
Silberman: I think that what
made Grateful Dead music
3132
02:50:37,040 --> 02:50:39,610
so appealing for people
who were tripping
3133
02:50:39,643 --> 02:50:43,647
was that it was a way
of having experiences
3134
02:50:43,681 --> 02:50:46,684
that were almost
a primordial initiation.
3135
02:50:55,092 --> 02:50:57,461
Like in cultures where
3136
02:50:57,495 --> 02:51:00,130
young men would be taken
away from their parents,
3137
02:51:00,163 --> 02:51:01,699
often by a Shaman.
3138
02:51:03,601 --> 02:51:05,002
You know, they would
have to spend,
3139
02:51:05,035 --> 02:51:08,572
like, three days in
the wilderness, fasting,
3140
02:51:08,606 --> 02:51:12,410
learning that the world
was serious
3141
02:51:12,443 --> 02:51:14,378
instead of superficial.
3142
02:51:16,113 --> 02:51:19,417
Learning that things like
life and death were real.
3143
02:51:21,519 --> 02:51:22,720
Becoming an adult.
3144
02:51:33,697 --> 02:51:35,633
It's not to say that, you know,
3145
02:51:35,666 --> 02:51:38,902
people couldn't enjoy Dead
shows while they were sober,
3146
02:51:38,936 --> 02:51:40,871
but for people who, you know,
3147
02:51:40,904 --> 02:51:43,040
were taking
psychedelics like me,
3148
02:51:43,073 --> 02:51:46,410
which I did hundreds
of times at Dead shows,
3149
02:51:46,444 --> 02:51:49,513
it was an absolutely
exquisite opportunity
3150
02:51:49,547 --> 02:51:51,615
to explore this rich
3151
02:51:51,649 --> 02:51:52,883
musical tradition
3152
02:51:52,916 --> 02:51:54,618
that they were
sort of serving up,
3153
02:51:54,652 --> 02:51:56,119
you know, nightly,
3154
02:51:56,153 --> 02:51:59,389
in this incredibly
well architected form.
3155
02:52:08,966 --> 02:52:12,002
And then you'd be returned
to the, kind of, human world
3156
02:52:12,035 --> 02:52:15,439
through the ballads
that Jerry would sing.
3157
02:52:16,974 --> 02:52:19,477
Like, Jerry would often
come out of space
3158
02:52:19,510 --> 02:52:20,744
with "Stella Blue."
3159
02:52:22,713 --> 02:52:25,883
It was as if he had
found a place to stand
3160
02:52:25,916 --> 02:52:29,119
in the middle of the universe
3161
02:52:29,152 --> 02:52:32,656
where he could look at
everything outside of him
3162
02:52:32,690 --> 02:52:36,026
and utter something
meaningful about it.
3163
02:52:38,529 --> 02:52:42,032
♪ All the years combine
3164
02:52:47,505 --> 02:52:51,909
♪ They melt into a dream
3165
02:52:56,780 --> 02:53:01,018
♪ A broken angel sings
3166
02:53:01,051 --> 02:53:06,490
You know, a very common
experience about psychedelics
3167
02:53:06,524 --> 02:53:08,191
is that you feel
like you're on the verge
3168
02:53:08,225 --> 02:53:11,028
of sort of cracking
the cosmic koan
3169
02:53:11,061 --> 02:53:13,531
or getting the cosmic
joke or something.
3170
02:53:14,765 --> 02:53:16,600
And then it would slip away.
3171
02:53:16,634 --> 02:53:21,104
♪ It all rolls into one
3172
02:53:21,138 --> 02:53:24,842
And, I think the lyrics
kind of flirted with that...
3173
02:53:24,875 --> 02:53:26,610
♪ And nothing...
3174
02:53:26,644 --> 02:53:29,947
where they would, you know,
almost hand you something
3175
02:53:29,980 --> 02:53:32,550
that sounded like
the big answer,
3176
02:53:32,583 --> 02:53:35,819
but then it was, you know,
ever so slightly slippery.
3177
02:53:35,853 --> 02:53:42,092
♪ There's nothing you can hold ♪
3178
02:53:42,125 --> 02:53:44,928
♪ For very long
3179
02:53:46,296 --> 02:53:47,898
Paumgarten:
The lyrics for me...
3180
02:53:47,931 --> 02:53:49,900
The good ones...
3181
02:53:49,933 --> 02:53:53,003
They do hang around like
scraps of important poetry.
3182
02:53:53,036 --> 02:53:56,139
♪ Stella Blue
3183
02:53:56,173 --> 02:53:58,676
There's something
ingenious about Hunter
3184
02:53:58,709 --> 02:54:00,944
where the lyrics
all have these level
3185
02:54:00,978 --> 02:54:04,014
of involving the listener in
whatever story's being told.
3186
02:54:04,047 --> 02:54:07,751
♪ Stella Blue
3187
02:54:09,086 --> 02:54:12,656
Robert Hunter was
a very subtle lyricist.
3188
02:54:14,124 --> 02:54:16,326
Trist: He was part
of the Grateful Dead
3189
02:54:16,359 --> 02:54:18,929
because he was creating
the words they sang.
3190
02:54:21,865 --> 02:54:25,669
Always referring
back to those roots
3191
02:54:25,703 --> 02:54:29,973
that we shared
in the early sixties.
3192
02:54:30,007 --> 02:54:33,677
McNally: Hunter was Jerry's
partner on every level.
3193
02:54:33,711 --> 02:54:36,980
They were close enough.
They went back far enough
3194
02:54:37,014 --> 02:54:40,250
that Hunter could be
the source of words
3195
02:54:40,283 --> 02:54:43,220
and Jerry could be
comfortable singing them.
3196
02:54:43,253 --> 02:54:45,255
Garcia: I can't get
on stage and sing a song
3197
02:54:45,288 --> 02:54:48,191
that doesn't have some
emotional reality for me.
3198
02:54:48,225 --> 02:54:52,329
Hunter is very good about
writing into my beliefs.
3199
02:54:52,362 --> 02:54:53,664
You know?
3200
02:54:53,697 --> 02:54:56,834
He... He understands
the way I think.
3201
02:54:56,867 --> 02:54:59,236
Silberman:
His lyrics seem to come
3202
02:54:59,269 --> 02:55:01,605
out of a much older world
3203
02:55:01,639 --> 02:55:04,207
than they literally came out of.
3204
02:55:04,241 --> 02:55:07,210
♪ In the timbers to Fennario
3205
02:55:07,244 --> 02:55:10,047
♪ The wolves are running round ♪
3206
02:55:10,080 --> 02:55:12,315
It was like those songs came
3207
02:55:12,349 --> 02:55:18,756
from some kind of subterranean
old, weird America.
3208
02:55:18,789 --> 02:55:21,892
♪ I beg of you,
don't murder me ♪
3209
02:55:21,925 --> 02:55:25,028
One that had important
information in it.
3210
02:55:25,062 --> 02:55:26,964
♪ Please don't murder me
3211
02:55:26,997 --> 02:55:28,298
That you would kind of have to
3212
02:55:28,331 --> 02:55:30,300
live your way
up to understanding.
3213
02:55:30,333 --> 02:55:33,704
Weir: Hunter's
got his own window
3214
02:55:33,737 --> 02:55:38,041
into what those songs are about,
3215
02:55:38,075 --> 02:55:39,376
what they mean to him.
3216
02:55:40,678 --> 02:55:43,947
He's notoriously reclusive,
3217
02:55:43,981 --> 02:55:46,850
uh, so I doubt
that he would be willing
3218
02:55:46,884 --> 02:55:48,852
to sit for an interview,
but he might.
3219
02:55:48,886 --> 02:55:52,723
I could call him and...
Or text him or something.
3220
02:55:52,756 --> 02:55:55,893
If you can get him to talk,
it'd be interesting to see.
3221
02:55:59,930 --> 02:56:02,099
I think a lot of times,
people want to know
3222
02:56:02,132 --> 02:56:06,203
what he meant
by this or that line.
3223
02:56:06,236 --> 02:56:08,405
No artist wants to sit there
3224
02:56:08,438 --> 02:56:11,675
and explain
why he did what he did.
3225
02:56:11,709 --> 02:56:15,345
It's sort of counter
3226
02:56:15,378 --> 02:56:19,249
to the whole point of
doing something artistic.
3227
02:56:19,282 --> 02:56:20,851
Well, it is fun
3228
02:56:20,884 --> 02:56:23,887
to learn how songs
are written, right?
3229
02:56:23,921 --> 02:56:24,921
I guess.
3230
02:56:26,289 --> 02:56:28,325
Generally speaking,
when I listen to a song,
3231
02:56:28,358 --> 02:56:29,760
you know, I don't ponder.
3232
02:56:29,793 --> 02:56:31,361
"What was he trying
to get at here?"
3233
02:56:31,394 --> 02:56:34,264
I always do that.
3234
02:56:34,297 --> 02:56:35,966
I always try to figure out
3235
02:56:35,999 --> 02:56:39,169
what the words mean...
What do they mean?
3236
02:56:39,202 --> 02:56:40,771
What's...
3237
02:56:40,804 --> 02:56:43,340
But it takes all kinds right?
3238
02:56:43,373 --> 02:56:44,842
Mm-hmm.
3239
02:56:44,875 --> 02:56:46,710
But he knows
we're coming, right?
3240
02:56:46,744 --> 02:56:47,978
Bar Lev:
No, he does not.
3241
02:56:48,011 --> 02:56:49,880
Ah, okay.
3242
02:56:49,913 --> 02:56:54,184
You know, Robert Hunter
was a very elusive person.
3243
02:56:55,853 --> 02:57:00,023
He did not like photographs
circulating of him.
3244
02:57:00,057 --> 02:57:02,826
He wouldn't even appear
in public for many years
3245
02:57:02,860 --> 02:57:06,496
because he wanted
to retain his anonymity.
3246
02:57:06,529 --> 02:57:08,866
Hunter would just
kind of appear,
3247
02:57:08,899 --> 02:57:12,736
or he would disappear
whenever he wanted to.
3248
02:57:12,770 --> 02:57:15,739
That's who the guy is.
3249
02:57:15,773 --> 02:57:18,175
And that's why
his lyrics suggest...
3250
02:57:19,476 --> 02:57:22,412
"I'm anywhere you want me to be.
3251
02:57:22,445 --> 02:57:24,214
You can't catch me."
3252
02:57:27,484 --> 02:57:31,521
This is a man who will
pull out a gun and shoot you
3253
02:57:31,554 --> 02:57:33,824
if you start, you know,
analyzing his lyrics.
3254
02:57:33,857 --> 02:57:36,193
He will not answer
questions like that.
3255
02:57:36,226 --> 02:57:38,128
No, you can't exp... Nobody w...
3256
02:57:38,161 --> 02:57:40,363
Well, I can't
explain his songs, no.
3257
02:57:40,397 --> 02:57:42,265
McNally: He won't do it,
nor should he.
3258
02:57:42,299 --> 02:57:45,502
If he did,
the illusion would be gone,
3259
02:57:45,535 --> 02:57:48,171
and that ain't no fun, you know?
3260
02:57:51,141 --> 02:57:55,879
Silberman: His lyrics
were not easily cast
3261
02:57:55,913 --> 02:57:58,215
into some narrow
range of meaning.
3262
02:58:00,483 --> 02:58:02,119
You know, it's like,
3263
02:58:02,152 --> 02:58:03,821
I love the lyric to "Dark Star,"
3264
02:58:03,854 --> 02:58:05,422
even though it's
one of the most...
3265
02:58:05,455 --> 02:58:10,060
You know, you can't
explain what it means.
3266
02:58:10,093 --> 02:58:11,962
Well, let's see.
3267
02:58:11,995 --> 02:58:13,964
Dark star crashes,
3268
02:58:13,997 --> 02:58:15,298
pouring its light
into the ashes.
3269
02:58:15,332 --> 02:58:17,067
Reason tatters.
3270
02:58:17,100 --> 02:58:20,003
The forces tear loose
from the axis.
3271
02:58:20,037 --> 02:58:23,040
Uh, searchlight
casting for faults
3272
02:58:23,073 --> 02:58:24,875
in the clouds of delusion.
3273
02:58:24,908 --> 02:58:26,343
Shall we go, you and I,
3274
02:58:26,376 --> 02:58:28,078
while we can,
3275
02:58:28,111 --> 02:58:30,580
through the transitive
nightfall of diamonds?
3276
02:58:30,613 --> 02:58:32,249
What is unclear about that?
3277
02:58:32,282 --> 02:58:35,085
I mean, it says what it means.
3278
02:58:36,319 --> 02:58:41,491
♪ Dark star crashes
3279
02:58:42,625 --> 02:58:45,863
♪ Pouring its light
3280
02:58:45,896 --> 02:58:49,566
♪ Through ashes
3281
02:58:49,599 --> 02:58:51,168
♪ Reason...
3282
02:58:51,201 --> 02:58:55,038
Godchaux: The lyrics
are worded in such a way
3283
02:58:55,072 --> 02:58:59,009
that anybody who hears
a Grateful Dead song
3284
02:58:59,042 --> 02:59:01,178
can interpret it
3285
02:59:01,211 --> 02:59:04,314
so that it becomes meaningful
3286
02:59:04,347 --> 02:59:06,516
to their own life.
3287
02:59:06,549 --> 02:59:08,418
It is so personal
3288
02:59:08,451 --> 02:59:12,089
to each and every person
who listens to it,
3289
02:59:12,122 --> 02:59:15,325
it belongs to you, honey.
3290
02:59:15,358 --> 02:59:16,359
It's yours.
3291
02:59:16,393 --> 02:59:20,197
♪ Shall we go
3292
02:59:20,230 --> 02:59:26,003
♪ You and I, while we can?
3293
02:59:26,036 --> 02:59:28,371
And that's the key,
3294
02:59:28,405 --> 02:59:30,540
and that's the genius
3295
02:59:30,573 --> 02:59:34,177
of the Hunter/Garcia
collaboration.
3296
02:59:34,211 --> 02:59:42,119
♪ The transitive
nightfall of diamonds ♪
3297
02:59:44,087 --> 02:59:45,488
Silberman:
Both Robert Hunter's
3298
02:59:45,522 --> 02:59:48,291
and John Barlow's
best lyrics did that.
3299
02:59:50,093 --> 02:59:54,397
Those songs would become,
like, good, wise advisors
3300
02:59:54,431 --> 02:59:58,001
that you could take with you
through decades of life.
3301
02:59:59,669 --> 03:00:01,604
Come right here,
and it's all about this:
3302
03:00:01,638 --> 03:00:04,141
"See ya at the next show."
3303
03:00:04,174 --> 03:00:05,575
When this one's over,
3304
03:00:05,608 --> 03:00:07,253
we're not going anywhere
but to the next show.
3305
03:00:07,277 --> 03:00:08,988
Man: And how long are you
gonna keep doing this?
3306
03:00:09,012 --> 03:00:11,048
Like the band does
another 20 years,
3307
03:00:11,081 --> 03:00:12,315
I'll do another 20 years.
3308
03:00:13,616 --> 03:00:15,252
Silberman:
It was really profound
3309
03:00:15,285 --> 03:00:17,220
to keep coming back
over the years
3310
03:00:17,254 --> 03:00:19,032
because you would see people,
you know, get older.
3311
03:00:19,056 --> 03:00:21,624
Eventually they'd be
coming with their spouse
3312
03:00:21,658 --> 03:00:23,293
and maybe their kids.
3313
03:00:23,326 --> 03:00:25,662
Eventually they'd be
getting gray hair.
3314
03:00:25,695 --> 03:00:28,999
It's like we would all
be growing old together
3315
03:00:29,032 --> 03:00:32,135
in this place that kept
recreating itself
3316
03:00:32,169 --> 03:00:35,238
in a way that was both
reassuringly familiar
3317
03:00:35,272 --> 03:00:39,376
and excitingly new every time.
3318
03:00:39,409 --> 03:00:41,611
I think, for a lot of people,
3319
03:00:41,644 --> 03:00:45,448
Grateful Dead shows were
experiences of renewal
3320
03:00:45,482 --> 03:00:47,650
in the same way that it would be
3321
03:00:47,684 --> 03:00:49,386
within a...
3322
03:00:49,419 --> 03:00:52,355
An established, uh, religion.
3323
03:00:52,389 --> 03:00:56,026
♪ I wanna tell you
how it's gonna be ♪
3324
03:00:58,461 --> 03:01:01,264
♪ You're gonna give
your love to me ♪
3325
03:01:03,566 --> 03:01:07,104
♪ I want to love you
night and day ♪
3326
03:01:09,706 --> 03:01:12,542
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3327
03:01:15,245 --> 03:01:18,448
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3328
03:01:18,481 --> 03:01:20,717
♪ Not fade away
3329
03:01:26,256 --> 03:01:30,427
Lesh: It is more like
a ritual than a concert.
3330
03:01:32,395 --> 03:01:34,497
Everybody's ecstatic together.
3331
03:01:37,467 --> 03:01:39,436
I always said,
3332
03:01:39,469 --> 03:01:41,538
every place we play is church.
3333
03:01:43,506 --> 03:01:45,208
That says it in a nutshell.
3334
03:01:53,516 --> 03:01:55,618
Barlow: You know,
there really was
3335
03:01:55,652 --> 03:01:57,287
a holy thing
that happened there.
3336
03:01:57,320 --> 03:01:58,488
There's no question.
3337
03:02:01,124 --> 03:02:03,093
But it wasn't
coming from Garcia.
3338
03:02:03,126 --> 03:02:05,028
It wasn't coming
from the stage, actually.
3339
03:02:05,062 --> 03:02:07,497
It wasn't coming from
any particular place.
3340
03:02:07,530 --> 03:02:09,232
It never does.
3341
03:02:12,202 --> 03:02:15,638
We realized that we had
to be really very careful...
3342
03:02:17,274 --> 03:02:19,509
because if the Grateful Dead
3343
03:02:19,542 --> 03:02:22,179
was going to form a religion
3344
03:02:22,212 --> 03:02:24,747
beyond just having
a religious-like thing
3345
03:02:24,781 --> 03:02:26,416
that was following it around...
3346
03:02:27,550 --> 03:02:29,352
it would constrain our ability
3347
03:02:29,386 --> 03:02:31,154
to get into the future properly.
3348
03:02:32,755 --> 03:02:35,658
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3349
03:02:38,395 --> 03:02:41,264
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3350
03:02:41,298 --> 03:02:43,566
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3351
03:02:43,600 --> 03:02:46,569
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3352
03:02:46,603 --> 03:02:49,439
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3353
03:02:49,472 --> 03:02:52,409
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3354
03:02:52,442 --> 03:02:55,145
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3355
03:02:55,178 --> 03:02:57,814
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3356
03:02:57,847 --> 03:03:00,583
♪ Mmm-bop, bop, bop-bop
3357
03:03:00,617 --> 03:03:03,653
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3358
03:03:03,686 --> 03:03:06,556
♪ Mmm-bop, bop, bop-bop
3359
03:03:06,589 --> 03:03:09,659
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3360
03:03:09,692 --> 03:03:12,295
♪ Mmm-bop, bop, bop-bop
3361
03:03:12,329 --> 03:03:15,565
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3362
03:03:17,834 --> 03:03:21,204
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3363
03:03:23,573 --> 03:03:26,443
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3364
03:03:28,745 --> 03:03:31,581
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3365
03:03:33,883 --> 03:03:36,753
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3366
03:03:39,222 --> 03:03:42,292
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3367
03:03:44,990 --> 03:03:49,095
See, for the first
18 years or so,
3368
03:03:49,128 --> 03:03:51,064
I had a lot of doubts
about the Grateful Dead.
3369
03:03:51,097 --> 03:03:53,666
I thought maybe this is really
a bad thing to be doing,
3370
03:03:53,699 --> 03:03:56,202
you know, this could be,
like, really pernicious.
3371
03:03:56,235 --> 03:03:58,171
Reporter: Because you
were aware of it.
3372
03:03:58,204 --> 03:04:00,139
Because I was
aware of the power.
3373
03:04:03,609 --> 03:04:07,146
If I had started to think
about controlling that power,
3374
03:04:07,180 --> 03:04:10,149
it would be like,
perilously close to fascism.
3375
03:04:12,551 --> 03:04:17,323
And, so I did a lot
of things to sabotage it.
3376
03:04:19,092 --> 03:04:21,127
It's like, "Fuck that, you know?
3377
03:04:21,160 --> 03:04:23,096
"I'm not going to go
along with this.
3378
03:04:23,129 --> 03:04:24,497
I don't want
to be a part of this."
3379
03:04:27,400 --> 03:04:28,767
I mean, it's the thing of it.
3380
03:04:28,801 --> 03:04:31,104
You don't want
to be the king, you know?
3381
03:04:31,137 --> 03:04:33,339
You don't want
to be the president.
3382
03:04:35,408 --> 03:04:36,675
You don't fuckin' want that.
3383
03:04:36,709 --> 03:04:38,589
I mean, nobody wants...
Nobody should have that.
3384
03:04:41,314 --> 03:04:46,085
♪ Fare you well, my honey, oh ♪
3385
03:04:50,156 --> 03:04:52,725
♪ Fare you well
3386
03:04:52,758 --> 03:04:56,829
♪ My only true one
3387
03:04:58,864 --> 03:05:03,336
♪ All the birds
that were singing ♪
3388
03:05:05,904 --> 03:05:09,608
♪ Have flown
3389
03:05:09,642 --> 03:05:14,447
♪ Except you alone
3390
03:05:16,815 --> 03:05:18,717
Steve Silberman: Jerry
once said something like
3391
03:05:18,751 --> 03:05:22,221
"I live in a world
without a Grateful Dead"
3392
03:05:22,255 --> 03:05:25,824
because, he didn't have some
group that was, you know,
3393
03:05:25,858 --> 03:05:27,393
that he could go see
3394
03:05:27,426 --> 03:05:29,495
that would lift
the burdens of his life.
3395
03:05:29,528 --> 03:05:31,297
You know, he was the guy
3396
03:05:31,330 --> 03:05:32,874
who was lifting
everybody else's burdens
3397
03:05:32,898 --> 03:05:34,567
without even trying.
3398
03:05:36,302 --> 03:05:38,771
And he couldn't do it
for himself, clearly,
3399
03:05:38,804 --> 03:05:41,507
because meanwhile,
he's going back to his house
3400
03:05:41,540 --> 03:05:44,577
and smoking heroin all day.
3401
03:05:46,345 --> 03:05:47,789
Nick Paumgarten: By the time
I came on the scene
3402
03:05:47,813 --> 03:05:49,515
in the mid-eighties,
3403
03:05:49,548 --> 03:05:51,884
Garcia was probably at his
unhealthiest, you know,
3404
03:05:51,917 --> 03:05:53,919
up until, basically,
when he died.
3405
03:05:53,952 --> 03:05:55,821
♪ In my time
3406
03:05:55,854 --> 03:05:57,556
I feel like the extent to which
3407
03:05:57,590 --> 03:06:00,193
he allowed himself
to fall to pieces,
3408
03:06:00,226 --> 03:06:03,396
there was some element
of the canny artist in that.
3409
03:06:05,231 --> 03:06:07,466
I mean, this is me projecting
onto him entirely.
3410
03:06:07,500 --> 03:06:09,168
Maybe it's giving him
too much credit,
3411
03:06:09,202 --> 03:06:12,405
but it suited the music
that he was performing
3412
03:06:12,438 --> 03:06:14,207
when he was shrouded in death
3413
03:06:14,240 --> 03:06:16,909
because a lot of Garcia's
music is about death.
3414
03:06:18,777 --> 03:06:20,613
That's an appeal of the man
3415
03:06:20,646 --> 03:06:21,756
that you have to
discover over time.
3416
03:06:21,780 --> 03:06:23,216
You don't see it immediately
3417
03:06:23,249 --> 03:06:25,418
because of the way
he presents historically
3418
03:06:25,451 --> 03:06:28,321
as this sort of big,
happy, hippie icon.
3419
03:06:29,488 --> 03:06:30,756
You get to know,
3420
03:06:30,789 --> 03:06:32,258
if you listen to the music,
3421
03:06:32,291 --> 03:06:33,692
that actually he's a deliverer
3422
03:06:33,726 --> 03:06:35,661
of dark news, you know?
3423
03:06:35,694 --> 03:06:38,864
That's where you really
begin to take him seriously.
3424
03:06:40,299 --> 03:06:44,303
♪ Fare you well, fare you well ♪
3425
03:06:44,337 --> 03:06:49,242
♪ I love you more
than words can tell ♪
3426
03:06:49,275 --> 03:06:52,878
♪ Listen to the river
sing sweet songs ♪
3427
03:06:52,911 --> 03:06:55,881
♪ To rock my soul
3428
03:06:57,616 --> 03:07:01,587
♪ Listen to the river
sing sweet songs ♪
3429
03:07:01,620 --> 03:07:05,558
♪ To rock my soul
3430
03:07:06,692 --> 03:07:08,561
This is where I'm working
3431
03:07:08,594 --> 03:07:12,931
on archiving a bunch
of Jerry's stuff.
3432
03:07:17,270 --> 03:07:21,974
This is my endless project.
3433
03:07:23,609 --> 03:07:26,011
You know, I was always
expecting when I...
3434
03:07:26,044 --> 03:07:28,547
When I would listen
to the Grateful Dead music,
3435
03:07:28,581 --> 03:07:30,916
there was gonna be some, like,
overt message, you know?
3436
03:07:30,949 --> 03:07:33,986
Something there,
like, oh, that's it.
3437
03:07:34,019 --> 03:07:36,522
But I can't tell exactly
3438
03:07:36,555 --> 03:07:39,525
where the magic is
in... in these things.
3439
03:07:39,558 --> 03:07:41,460
You know, but there's definitely
3440
03:07:41,494 --> 03:07:43,596
something special going on.
3441
03:07:46,332 --> 03:07:51,304
This is a great reel
from a press release.
3442
03:07:54,707 --> 03:07:57,976
Back here I have a couple of,
um, like, family shots.
3443
03:08:00,045 --> 03:08:01,647
There's Jerry.
3444
03:08:01,680 --> 03:08:03,549
This is... This is
the daughter picture.
3445
03:08:03,582 --> 03:08:05,318
He's holding his wallet.
3446
03:08:05,351 --> 03:08:07,520
I'm probably
hitting him up for money.
3447
03:08:07,553 --> 03:08:09,722
Um, this is in Hawaii.
3448
03:08:09,755 --> 03:08:12,891
He looks pretty frickin'
happy, to me.
3449
03:08:14,427 --> 03:08:16,995
This is actually
at Ken Kesey's house.
3450
03:08:17,029 --> 03:08:19,865
Me and Jerry in '86.
3451
03:08:21,467 --> 03:08:23,936
My mom, Mountain Girl,
took this picture.
3452
03:08:23,969 --> 03:08:26,605
Growing up in the Grateful Dead,
3453
03:08:26,639 --> 03:08:29,442
I never got
to experience the show
3454
03:08:29,475 --> 03:08:30,909
as a fan did, you know?
3455
03:08:32,878 --> 03:08:34,547
So, it didn't make sense to me
3456
03:08:34,580 --> 03:08:37,450
why all these people
have this, um,
3457
03:08:37,483 --> 03:08:39,485
deep, deep connection to my dad
3458
03:08:39,518 --> 03:08:42,755
that I sometimes felt
like I had to compete with.
3459
03:08:44,089 --> 03:08:45,924
You know, they toured a lot,
3460
03:08:45,958 --> 03:08:49,094
and it was really hard
for him, you know,
3461
03:08:49,127 --> 03:08:51,530
spending that much
time on the road.
3462
03:08:53,799 --> 03:08:55,734
And we gave him, you know,
3463
03:08:55,768 --> 03:08:57,703
he got his space
when he came home.
3464
03:09:01,574 --> 03:09:03,108
I would just sit, you know,
3465
03:09:03,141 --> 03:09:06,645
and hang out next to him
while he played his scales.
3466
03:09:10,383 --> 03:09:13,819
And we'd watch
TV shows together.
3467
03:09:13,852 --> 03:09:15,454
And weird movies, you know.
3468
03:09:15,488 --> 03:09:16,889
Twilight Zone stuff.
3469
03:09:16,922 --> 03:09:19,392
Shall we put the heart in now?
3470
03:09:19,425 --> 03:09:20,626
Yes.
3471
03:09:20,659 --> 03:09:21,794
Ludwig.
3472
03:09:21,827 --> 03:09:23,629
Here's some old, uh,
3473
03:09:23,662 --> 03:09:26,632
sketches of little
Frankensteins.
3474
03:09:26,665 --> 03:09:30,569
Frankenstein was a recurring
character for him.
3475
03:09:30,603 --> 03:09:34,039
Um, you know, Jerry
loved horror movies
3476
03:09:34,072 --> 03:09:36,542
and stuff like that, so...
3477
03:09:36,575 --> 03:09:38,043
The Frankenstein,
3478
03:09:38,076 --> 03:09:40,979
the harmless little
companion that you create
3479
03:09:41,013 --> 03:09:46,385
that ends up dominating
your whole world.
3480
03:09:48,887 --> 03:09:50,656
Work.
3481
03:09:50,689 --> 03:09:51,924
He was exhausted.
3482
03:09:51,957 --> 03:09:54,427
I'm exhausted.
I must get sleep.
3483
03:09:54,460 --> 03:09:58,764
Work, finish, then sleep.
3484
03:09:58,797 --> 03:10:00,799
The Grateful Dead thing
had gotten so big
3485
03:10:00,833 --> 03:10:02,635
where you're kind of, you know,
3486
03:10:02,668 --> 03:10:05,137
working just to keep it
going at a certain point.
3487
03:10:05,170 --> 03:10:07,039
Not that, you know,
3488
03:10:07,072 --> 03:10:09,708
not saying it should have
ended or anything, but...
3489
03:10:11,744 --> 03:10:13,479
I wish that, uh,
3490
03:10:13,512 --> 03:10:17,049
he would've just got
some fucking rest, you know?
3491
03:10:19,752 --> 03:10:21,754
Dennis McNally: Summer of '86,
3492
03:10:21,787 --> 03:10:26,992
we played two concerts
in Washington, D.C.
3493
03:10:27,025 --> 03:10:29,595
It was over a hundred degrees,
3494
03:10:29,628 --> 03:10:34,600
and Jerry was out there
for three hours a day,
3495
03:10:34,633 --> 03:10:36,034
and he got dehydrated.
3496
03:10:37,703 --> 03:10:39,905
And about three days later,
3497
03:10:39,938 --> 03:10:42,074
he went into a diabetic coma.
3498
03:10:44,577 --> 03:10:47,713
Garcia: I just laid down
one day and didn't get up.
3499
03:10:49,147 --> 03:10:51,484
During the time
I was actually in a coma,
3500
03:10:51,517 --> 03:10:55,087
my main experience is
a kind of tremendous struggle
3501
03:10:55,120 --> 03:10:58,624
in a kind of a futuristic,
3502
03:10:58,657 --> 03:11:01,494
sort of spaceship-y
kind of vehicle
3503
03:11:01,527 --> 03:11:04,963
with some kind
of insectoid presences.
3504
03:11:04,997 --> 03:11:07,833
Prankster: The acid test is
everywhere in this spaceship,
3505
03:11:07,866 --> 03:11:09,868
everywhere you are,
you're all on...
3506
03:11:11,937 --> 03:11:15,173
Garcia: Kind of like invisible
time travelers from the future
3507
03:11:15,207 --> 03:11:17,643
looking at me, you know.
3508
03:11:20,979 --> 03:11:23,148
I had this image of myself...
3509
03:11:23,181 --> 03:11:25,618
I love death.
3510
03:11:25,651 --> 03:11:27,886
...as these little
hunks of protoplasm
3511
03:11:27,920 --> 03:11:30,088
that were stuck together
kind of like stamps
3512
03:11:30,122 --> 03:11:31,657
with perforations between 'em.
3513
03:11:32,925 --> 03:11:34,527
And they were a gift.
3514
03:11:41,934 --> 03:11:44,069
They were these kind
of, like, message units
3515
03:11:44,102 --> 03:11:45,704
or message carriers,
3516
03:11:45,738 --> 03:11:46,881
and I thought they were, like,
3517
03:11:46,905 --> 03:11:48,240
kind of like my bloodstream.
3518
03:11:48,273 --> 03:11:51,644
And that was my image
of my physical self.
3519
03:11:57,583 --> 03:11:59,251
I came out of my coma...
3520
03:12:01,153 --> 03:12:03,956
feeling fragile...
3521
03:12:05,257 --> 03:12:07,025
but I'm not afraid of death.
3522
03:12:10,228 --> 03:12:12,598
It made it easier for me
to focus on the things
3523
03:12:12,631 --> 03:12:14,232
that I really wanted
to accomplish.
3524
03:12:14,266 --> 03:12:16,301
It had that kind of
attention-getting, you know,
3525
03:12:16,334 --> 03:12:18,303
the thing of you could
go at any moment.
3526
03:12:18,336 --> 03:12:19,938
You never know, you know,
3527
03:12:19,972 --> 03:12:21,707
so you might as well
just try to crowd
3528
03:12:21,740 --> 03:12:24,276
as much as you can possibility
get into your life.
3529
03:12:24,309 --> 03:12:26,278
This week,
the Grateful Dead released
3530
03:12:26,311 --> 03:12:28,013
their first studio
album in seven years,
3531
03:12:28,046 --> 03:12:29,648
In The Dark, over which
3532
03:12:29,682 --> 03:12:31,984
their so-called Deadhead
fans are delirious.
3533
03:12:33,619 --> 03:12:36,154
They always love it
when I don't die.
3534
03:12:37,756 --> 03:12:40,158
I always get a lot
of mileage out of that.
3535
03:12:40,192 --> 03:12:42,828
Reporter: The Grateful Dead
are very much alive and well.
3536
03:12:42,861 --> 03:12:44,630
Their last album, Into The Dark,
3537
03:12:44,663 --> 03:12:45,831
was their best selling ever.
3538
03:12:45,864 --> 03:12:47,866
Their single, "Touch of Grey,"
3539
03:12:47,900 --> 03:12:50,202
became their first top-40 hit.
3540
03:12:50,235 --> 03:12:52,938
♪ I will get by
3541
03:12:52,971 --> 03:12:56,341
The Dead racked up over
$26 million in ticket sales.
3542
03:12:56,374 --> 03:12:58,076
Woman: ...one of
the highest earners
3543
03:12:58,110 --> 03:12:59,678
in the entertainment
business last year.
3544
03:12:59,712 --> 03:13:01,279
The band's music makes millions.
3545
03:13:01,313 --> 03:13:04,049
There's an ice cream
named after their leader.
3546
03:13:04,082 --> 03:13:05,851
The Dead is even
on the internet.
3547
03:13:05,884 --> 03:13:08,153
♪ I will survive
3548
03:13:09,387 --> 03:13:11,023
McNally: In 1987,
3549
03:13:11,056 --> 03:13:12,691
we finally have a radio hit.
3550
03:13:12,725 --> 03:13:16,161
With "Touch of Grey"
in the top ten,
3551
03:13:16,194 --> 03:13:20,332
tens of thousands of people
just heard it on the radio,
3552
03:13:20,365 --> 03:13:22,267
and they went, "Oh,
I want to go to that show,"
3553
03:13:22,300 --> 03:13:23,836
and, of course,
they can't get in
3554
03:13:23,869 --> 03:13:25,904
'cause it's already sold out.
3555
03:13:25,938 --> 03:13:27,640
So they go down anyway,
3556
03:13:27,673 --> 03:13:29,875
and they find a party
the likes of which
3557
03:13:29,908 --> 03:13:33,646
no 19-year-old
ever walks away from.
3558
03:13:33,679 --> 03:13:36,615
And we go from having
a thousand people
3559
03:13:36,649 --> 03:13:38,183
on the outside of our show,
3560
03:13:38,216 --> 03:13:41,253
uh, to 5,000.
3561
03:13:42,755 --> 03:13:44,957
And that simply overloaded
the environment.
3562
03:13:44,990 --> 03:13:47,660
♪ I will get by
3563
03:13:47,693 --> 03:13:50,663
Mickey Hart:
It got so, so popular,
3564
03:13:50,696 --> 03:13:52,898
so powerful a draw,
3565
03:13:52,931 --> 03:13:55,333
that the biggest places
were too small,
3566
03:13:55,367 --> 03:13:57,636
even the stadiums.
3567
03:14:01,674 --> 03:14:02,908
Playing to the stadiums
3568
03:14:02,941 --> 03:14:04,276
were akin to playing
in the studio
3569
03:14:04,309 --> 03:14:06,311
because the people
were all there...
3570
03:14:06,344 --> 03:14:07,880
There were 60,000 people there...
3571
03:14:07,913 --> 03:14:09,347
But it was basically...
3572
03:14:09,381 --> 03:14:11,116
You didn't have any touch
with those people.
3573
03:14:11,149 --> 03:14:14,186
They're hundreds
of feet away from you.
3574
03:14:15,921 --> 03:14:17,656
Phil Lesh: In the stadiums,
3575
03:14:17,690 --> 03:14:19,892
you're gonna have no contact
with your audience.
3576
03:14:19,925 --> 03:14:23,028
It's just not possible.
3577
03:14:23,061 --> 03:14:27,032
You know, it's just a sea
of faces about this big
3578
03:14:27,065 --> 03:14:29,001
and waving arms.
3579
03:14:29,034 --> 03:14:30,903
Man: Has success
spoiled the Dead?
3580
03:14:30,936 --> 03:14:31,970
- Yeah.
- Bob Weir: Yeah.
3581
03:14:40,946 --> 03:14:42,380
Sam Cutler:
I came back to America
3582
03:14:42,414 --> 03:14:44,349
after 30 years away.
3583
03:14:44,382 --> 03:14:47,352
I was absolutely gobsmacked
3584
03:14:47,385 --> 03:14:49,855
by the influence
of the Grateful Dead
3585
03:14:49,888 --> 03:14:53,792
and how it spread
all over the United States.
3586
03:14:56,128 --> 03:14:59,197
And then this is what
the mainstream culture
3587
03:14:59,231 --> 03:15:00,866
does, you know?
3588
03:15:00,899 --> 03:15:02,868
It neuters things
3589
03:15:02,901 --> 03:15:05,738
and declaws things, you know,
3590
03:15:05,771 --> 03:15:08,240
by absorbing them, you know.
3591
03:15:08,273 --> 03:15:10,375
They kinda love you to death.
3592
03:15:13,311 --> 03:15:16,014
Paumgarten:
The scene kept evolving.
3593
03:15:16,048 --> 03:15:19,251
They attracted
a new legion of fans.
3594
03:15:19,284 --> 03:15:21,186
And they became
popular and accepted,
3595
03:15:21,219 --> 03:15:22,755
and you found out
that, you know,
3596
03:15:22,788 --> 03:15:24,422
Peter Jennings went to shows
3597
03:15:24,456 --> 03:15:26,792
and Senator Leahy
was a Deadhead,
3598
03:15:26,825 --> 03:15:29,728
and the Grateful Dead,
God bless 'em,
3599
03:15:29,762 --> 03:15:30,929
were fine with that.
3600
03:15:32,230 --> 03:15:33,766
I found it affirming,
3601
03:15:33,799 --> 03:15:36,168
the fact that it was a big tent.
3602
03:15:36,201 --> 03:15:38,136
It wasn't just a bunch
of hippie chicks
3603
03:15:38,170 --> 03:15:41,173
or prep school
Deadheads or spinners.
3604
03:15:41,206 --> 03:15:44,910
They were open
to all kinds of people.
3605
03:15:44,943 --> 03:15:46,711
That was always part of it.
3606
03:15:48,113 --> 03:15:50,048
Garcia: Events have
carried us this far.
3607
03:15:50,082 --> 03:15:51,817
You know what I mean?
3608
03:15:51,850 --> 03:15:53,251
And that seems
to work pretty good
3609
03:15:53,285 --> 03:15:55,253
when we sort of take
a hands-off approach,
3610
03:15:55,287 --> 03:15:57,790
you know, kind of
let things happen.
3611
03:15:57,823 --> 03:15:59,858
So we'll see where this gets us
3612
03:15:59,892 --> 03:16:01,169
'cause right now
we're in motion.
3613
03:16:01,193 --> 03:16:02,460
We're on our way somewhere.
3614
03:16:02,494 --> 03:16:03,962
It's hard to tell where.
3615
03:16:05,330 --> 03:16:07,199
Cutler: What's
interesting to me
3616
03:16:07,232 --> 03:16:09,968
is the reaction
of the Deadheads.
3617
03:16:10,002 --> 03:16:12,337
When the Grateful Dead
became locked
3618
03:16:12,370 --> 03:16:14,406
into playing huge stadiums,
3619
03:16:14,439 --> 03:16:16,408
I mean, the Deadheads picked up
3620
03:16:16,441 --> 03:16:20,278
on the original ethos
of the Grateful Dead,
3621
03:16:20,312 --> 03:16:24,950
their inherently
anarchic tendencies.
3622
03:16:26,184 --> 03:16:27,920
And all of a sudden,
3623
03:16:27,953 --> 03:16:29,130
it was like they'd been stalked
3624
03:16:29,154 --> 03:16:30,455
by 50,000 lunatics.
3625
03:16:32,324 --> 03:16:35,127
Lesh: We should've known
that something was coming
3626
03:16:35,160 --> 03:16:38,196
when we realized
that a lot of times
3627
03:16:38,230 --> 03:16:40,799
there were more people
outside the shows
3628
03:16:40,833 --> 03:16:44,369
partying and trying
to find a way in for free
3629
03:16:44,402 --> 03:16:45,871
than there were inside.
3630
03:16:45,904 --> 03:16:49,842
♪ I spent a little time
on the mountain ♪
3631
03:16:49,875 --> 03:16:52,845
♪ Spent a little time
on the hill ♪
3632
03:16:54,046 --> 03:16:55,848
♪ I heard some say
3633
03:16:55,881 --> 03:16:57,950
♪ "Better run away"
3634
03:16:57,983 --> 03:17:00,819
♪ Others say
"Better stand still" ♪
3635
03:17:00,853 --> 03:17:03,221
Hart: It got so chaotic,
3636
03:17:03,255 --> 03:17:05,824
you couldn't take it
out of the bag.
3637
03:17:05,858 --> 03:17:08,226
We wanted to make
a statement saying that:
3638
03:17:08,260 --> 03:17:10,896
"You guys got to police
yourselves," you know?
3639
03:17:10,929 --> 03:17:12,473
You gotta be good neighbors,
you don't want to...
3640
03:17:12,497 --> 03:17:13,875
You can't be pee on the lawns
and everything.
3641
03:17:13,899 --> 03:17:15,033
You have to respect people.
3642
03:17:17,002 --> 03:17:18,837
McNally: What we
were trying to do
3643
03:17:18,871 --> 03:17:21,273
was simply preserve
our ability to do a show
3644
03:17:21,306 --> 03:17:24,176
under conditions in which
you had far too many people
3645
03:17:24,209 --> 03:17:26,411
saying "Oh, I'm just
here for the party,
3646
03:17:26,444 --> 03:17:29,081
even if I can't
get into the show."
3647
03:17:29,114 --> 03:17:31,383
And it's all too much.
3648
03:17:31,416 --> 03:17:33,485
Jerry Garcia did not
bargain to be the mayor
3649
03:17:33,518 --> 03:17:35,187
of a traveling
counter-cultural town.
3650
03:17:37,522 --> 03:17:39,391
Listen, please,
because this is serious.
3651
03:17:39,424 --> 03:17:41,459
McNally: And so I'd
get the band members
3652
03:17:41,493 --> 03:17:42,827
to record these letters.
3653
03:17:44,897 --> 03:17:46,941
...so at our sold-out shows,
if you don't have a ticket,
3654
03:17:46,965 --> 03:17:48,576
- please don't come.
- Got any extra tickets?
3655
03:17:48,600 --> 03:17:51,069
- Lesh: We really mean this.
- Just one ticket.
3656
03:17:51,103 --> 03:17:54,572
Jerry just couldn't bring
himself to do one of those.
3657
03:17:54,606 --> 03:17:57,342
Uh, but Phil didn't mind.
3658
03:17:59,611 --> 03:18:01,413
Folks who run this shop,
3659
03:18:01,446 --> 03:18:03,348
I need it starting
to be shut down now.
3660
03:18:03,381 --> 03:18:06,885
Lesh: We wrote more than one
open letter to Deadheads.
3661
03:18:06,919 --> 03:18:08,921
The area around every
Grateful Dead concert
3662
03:18:08,954 --> 03:18:10,588
is subject to the local
legal system.
3663
03:18:14,259 --> 03:18:16,094
- But it did nothing.
- Deadhead: Come on.
3664
03:18:16,128 --> 03:18:17,128
It's a joke.
3665
03:18:18,596 --> 03:18:20,141
Deadheads are a determined
bunch, though,
3666
03:18:20,165 --> 03:18:23,568
you know, uh, not much
for listening to rules.
3667
03:18:23,601 --> 03:18:26,538
When they were younger guys,
3668
03:18:26,571 --> 03:18:28,506
first startin' out
on this thing,
3669
03:18:28,540 --> 03:18:30,442
they decided just, "Okay,
3670
03:18:30,475 --> 03:18:32,644
"the rules aren't
cuttin' it for me.
3671
03:18:32,677 --> 03:18:35,914
"Society's typical way of dealing
with things isn't cuttin' it for me,
3672
03:18:35,948 --> 03:18:38,383
and I want to follow
my intuition."
3673
03:18:38,416 --> 03:18:39,584
I'm coming in, brother.
3674
03:18:39,617 --> 03:18:41,119
I'm coming in.
3675
03:18:41,153 --> 03:18:42,320
I got you.
3676
03:18:42,354 --> 03:18:44,056
Female Deadhead:
They cut loose.
3677
03:18:44,089 --> 03:18:46,024
By doing that,
3678
03:18:46,058 --> 03:18:47,259
their music has grown
3679
03:18:47,292 --> 03:18:50,195
into this blossoming
monster, you know?
3680
03:18:51,563 --> 03:18:53,065
So we do the same thing,
3681
03:18:53,098 --> 03:18:54,466
and they do the same thing.
3682
03:18:54,499 --> 03:18:56,134
The Dead's fans have always been
3683
03:18:56,168 --> 03:18:58,036
among the mellowest
on a music scene,
3684
03:18:58,070 --> 03:19:00,172
but lately they've been
having some problems.
3685
03:19:00,205 --> 03:19:01,515
Reporter: Charges
against Deadheads ranging
3686
03:19:01,539 --> 03:19:03,441
from public lewdness
and disturbing the peace
3687
03:19:03,475 --> 03:19:05,043
to using and selling drugs.
3688
03:19:05,077 --> 03:19:06,644
Hart:
It was a scary thing,
3689
03:19:06,678 --> 03:19:08,222
because you don't want
to wake up in the morning
3690
03:19:08,246 --> 03:19:10,315
finding people
are in jail, or deaths.
3691
03:19:10,348 --> 03:19:13,551
I said, "Oh man,
this is dangerous."
3692
03:19:13,585 --> 03:19:15,620
You know, we'll be responsible
3693
03:19:15,653 --> 03:19:17,455
for things that we can't control
3694
03:19:17,489 --> 03:19:19,924
or that they can't control,
and it'll get out of hand.
3695
03:19:21,126 --> 03:19:24,662
♪ One way or another
3696
03:19:24,696 --> 03:19:28,967
♪ One way or another
3697
03:19:29,001 --> 03:19:32,504
♪ One way or another
3698
03:19:32,537 --> 03:19:35,473
♪ This darkness got to give
3699
03:19:35,507 --> 03:19:37,475
McNally: Many of the people
without tickets
3700
03:19:37,509 --> 03:19:40,445
have no responsibility
or obligation to our scene.
3701
03:19:40,478 --> 03:19:44,349
It's up to you as Deadheads
to educate these people
3702
03:19:44,382 --> 03:19:47,019
and to pressure them
into acting like Deadheads
3703
03:19:47,052 --> 03:19:48,086
instead of maniacs.
3704
03:19:49,454 --> 03:19:51,056
They can only
get away with this crap
3705
03:19:51,089 --> 03:19:52,524
if you let them.
3706
03:19:52,557 --> 03:19:53,667
If you're not
part of the solution,
3707
03:19:53,691 --> 03:19:54,993
you're part of the problem.
3708
03:19:55,027 --> 03:19:56,561
Yeah, don't you do that.
3709
03:19:56,594 --> 03:19:58,730
The spirit of the Grateful
Dead is at stake,
3710
03:19:58,763 --> 03:20:00,665
and we'll do
what we have to do...
3711
03:20:00,698 --> 03:20:02,134
- Yeah.
- ...to protect it.
3712
03:20:04,736 --> 03:20:07,439
Yeah. I mean, the whole point
with the Grateful Dead
3713
03:20:07,472 --> 03:20:11,143
was we didn't tell anybody,
you know, to do nothin',
3714
03:20:11,176 --> 03:20:12,444
you know?
3715
03:20:14,779 --> 03:20:16,481
Just the idea is repellent.
3716
03:20:16,514 --> 03:20:18,116
The idea that we're gonna now
3717
03:20:18,150 --> 03:20:21,286
start telling people
how to behave.
3718
03:20:21,319 --> 03:20:23,021
I mean, we're not the
government, you know?
3719
03:20:23,055 --> 03:20:25,123
We're just musicians,
3720
03:20:25,157 --> 03:20:26,591
and it's enough
to try to control...
3721
03:20:26,624 --> 03:20:28,093
McNally: The main thing
3722
03:20:28,126 --> 03:20:31,396
was getting Jerry
to co-sign the message.
3723
03:20:31,429 --> 03:20:34,299
But he was such an
anti-authoritarian.
3724
03:20:34,332 --> 03:20:37,035
He was just said,
"Get somebody else to do it."
3725
03:20:37,069 --> 03:20:39,537
Man: Well, Phil said
that he would like Deadheads
3726
03:20:39,571 --> 03:20:41,673
to not bring hard drugs
around the Dead.
3727
03:20:41,706 --> 03:20:44,042
How do you feel about that?
3728
03:20:44,076 --> 03:20:45,810
I think drugs are really
a personal thing,
3729
03:20:45,843 --> 03:20:48,246
and anybody... everybody has
the right to take 'em...
3730
03:20:48,280 --> 03:20:50,048
- Mm-hmm.
- ...as far as I'm concerned.
3731
03:20:50,082 --> 03:20:51,816
- Yeah.
- And in my world,
3732
03:20:51,849 --> 03:20:53,385
everything is legal, you know,
3733
03:20:53,418 --> 03:20:55,187
and everybody can do
whatever they want,
3734
03:20:55,220 --> 03:20:56,554
and, I mean, I...
3735
03:20:56,588 --> 03:20:58,756
John Barlow: Jerry
did not do messages.
3736
03:20:58,790 --> 03:21:01,159
Period. End of story.
3737
03:21:01,193 --> 03:21:03,661
Man: Is there anything
that you feel Deadheads can do
3738
03:21:03,695 --> 03:21:05,330
to help out the Grateful Dead?
3739
03:21:05,363 --> 03:21:07,399
Garcia: Yeah, they can
keep having fun.
3740
03:21:09,167 --> 03:21:11,369
I mean, there was certainly
an underlying message
3741
03:21:11,403 --> 03:21:13,671
that was about
thinking for yourself.
3742
03:21:16,674 --> 03:21:18,343
Ignore alien orders.
3743
03:21:21,113 --> 03:21:23,715
Steve Parish: Jerry never
liked to talk to the audience
3744
03:21:23,748 --> 03:21:25,788
'cause he realized that they
hung on his every word.
3745
03:21:27,752 --> 03:21:29,787
Everybody in the audience
would think
3746
03:21:29,821 --> 03:21:32,557
that Jerry was there
to play to them that night.
3747
03:21:32,590 --> 03:21:34,792
And he was. He tried to.
3748
03:21:36,461 --> 03:21:38,163
He liked to have
the lights up a little bit
3749
03:21:38,196 --> 03:21:40,198
so he could see
the faces of the audience.
3750
03:21:40,232 --> 03:21:42,834
- He drew off of them.
- ♪ Drifting and dreaming
3751
03:21:43,901 --> 03:21:45,337
You gotta remember,
3752
03:21:45,370 --> 03:21:47,772
when you start
with the early days...
3753
03:21:49,907 --> 03:21:51,776
you couldn't tell the difference
3754
03:21:51,809 --> 03:21:53,645
between the stage
and the audience.
3755
03:21:55,180 --> 03:21:57,649
It was just
an extension of that.
3756
03:22:00,152 --> 03:22:02,354
But as time went on,
3757
03:22:02,387 --> 03:22:05,490
Jerry became
this icon to people.
3758
03:22:05,523 --> 03:22:08,226
And that became impossible.
3759
03:22:18,670 --> 03:22:20,438
Weir: I had a tough time
3760
03:22:20,472 --> 03:22:23,141
walking the streets
of any town we were in.
3761
03:22:24,642 --> 03:22:26,711
Jerry couldn't do it,
flat couldn't.
3762
03:22:30,215 --> 03:22:33,485
He was stuck in a hotel room
wherever we went.
3763
03:22:33,518 --> 03:22:34,886
He couldn't go out.
3764
03:22:36,288 --> 03:22:37,589
And there were people
3765
03:22:37,622 --> 03:22:39,524
scaling the walls of the hotel
3766
03:22:39,557 --> 03:22:40,892
trying to get at him.
3767
03:22:43,428 --> 03:22:45,530
That just drove him nuts.
3768
03:22:56,874 --> 03:22:59,211
Trixie: I spent
a lot of time on stage
3769
03:22:59,244 --> 03:23:01,546
staring at the audience
3770
03:23:01,579 --> 03:23:04,349
and just wondering
what they're seeing,
3771
03:23:04,382 --> 03:23:06,618
why are they so enraptured?
3772
03:23:08,320 --> 03:23:10,222
But I remember, um,
3773
03:23:10,255 --> 03:23:15,493
just knowing
that I shouldn't go out
3774
03:23:15,527 --> 03:23:17,529
and mingle with the Deadheads.
3775
03:23:19,597 --> 03:23:20,932
There had already been
3776
03:23:20,965 --> 03:23:24,936
kind of certain breaches
of personal space.
3777
03:23:26,504 --> 03:23:29,241
I think Jerry was already
a little freaked out
3778
03:23:29,274 --> 03:23:31,643
about the weird, um, things
3779
03:23:31,676 --> 03:23:33,945
that people
were projecting on him.
3780
03:23:33,978 --> 03:23:38,883
♪ Dear Mr. Fantasy,
play us a tune ♪
3781
03:23:40,552 --> 03:23:45,189
♪ Something
to make us all happy ♪
3782
03:23:47,559 --> 03:23:50,495
♪ Do anything
3783
03:23:50,528 --> 03:23:53,631
♪ Take us out of this gloom
3784
03:23:53,665 --> 03:23:56,968
♪ Sing a song, play guitar
3785
03:23:57,001 --> 03:23:59,437
♪ Make it snappy
3786
03:24:01,038 --> 03:24:02,740
♪ You are the one...
3787
03:24:02,774 --> 03:24:05,410
Weir: We were just
beset by people
3788
03:24:05,443 --> 03:24:09,314
who had just gone off
into this imaginary world...
3789
03:24:09,347 --> 03:24:11,716
♪ You break, you break
down in tears ♪
3790
03:24:11,749 --> 03:24:14,286
...to the point where
Jerry was basically
3791
03:24:14,319 --> 03:24:16,788
a messiah figure.
3792
03:24:16,821 --> 03:24:19,591
♪ ...a straight mind you had
3793
03:24:20,892 --> 03:24:23,027
♪ Wouldn't have known you
3794
03:24:23,060 --> 03:24:25,630
♪ All these years
3795
03:24:25,663 --> 03:24:27,332
Woman: How do you feel
about the fact
3796
03:24:27,365 --> 03:24:29,534
that you enjoy such
a divine-like status
3797
03:24:29,567 --> 03:24:31,336
in the eyes
of so many of your fans?
3798
03:24:31,369 --> 03:24:32,804
I mean, yeah, but I don't think
3799
03:24:32,837 --> 03:24:34,506
anybody takes it that seriously,
3800
03:24:34,539 --> 03:24:35,816
- you know what I mean?
- You might be surprised.
3801
03:24:35,840 --> 03:24:37,775
Well...
3802
03:24:37,809 --> 03:24:39,544
Then I'll... I'll put up with it
3803
03:24:39,577 --> 03:24:41,713
until they come for me
with the cross and nails.
3804
03:24:41,746 --> 03:24:42,780
You know?
3805
03:25:09,040 --> 03:25:10,975
One of the things that upsets me
3806
03:25:11,008 --> 03:25:14,946
about what happened
with Jerry in the nineties
3807
03:25:14,979 --> 03:25:17,449
was how isolated he was
3808
03:25:17,482 --> 03:25:21,886
in the middle of this
incredible community.
3809
03:25:23,455 --> 03:25:26,324
And I think he was
really suffering,
3810
03:25:26,358 --> 03:25:28,760
particularly after
Brent Mydland died.
3811
03:25:31,729 --> 03:25:33,998
It was obvious
that Jerry and Brent
3812
03:25:34,031 --> 03:25:36,701
really had some kind
of very deep
3813
03:25:36,734 --> 03:25:40,672
and mutually, uh,
enriching connection.
3814
03:25:46,143 --> 03:25:50,915
Weir: After Brent died
from heroin overdose,
3815
03:25:50,948 --> 03:25:53,351
the music kind of
sagged a little bit.
3816
03:25:54,786 --> 03:25:57,422
I think Jerry... the... the fact
3817
03:25:57,455 --> 03:25:59,957
that he was kind of
shut in by circumstance,
3818
03:25:59,991 --> 03:26:05,029
and you add on top of that
the band is not what it was...
3819
03:26:06,798 --> 03:26:10,502
well, that's a little...
3820
03:26:10,535 --> 03:26:14,406
That's a place where the plot
sort of turns a little bit,
3821
03:26:14,439 --> 03:26:19,511
and, uh, and he started
looking for a way to get out.
3822
03:26:22,947 --> 03:26:27,985
♪ I'd rather be
in some dark hollow ♪
3823
03:26:28,019 --> 03:26:32,857
♪ Where the sun
don't ever shine ♪
3824
03:26:33,991 --> 03:26:35,693
♪ Then to be
3825
03:26:35,727 --> 03:26:39,163
♪ In some big city
3826
03:26:39,196 --> 03:26:40,965
♪ In a small room
3827
03:26:40,998 --> 03:26:43,435
♪ With you upon my mind
3828
03:26:43,468 --> 03:26:45,102
Brigid Meier: April, 1990...
3829
03:26:46,738 --> 03:26:49,040
I get a letter from Jerry.
3830
03:26:50,475 --> 03:26:52,143
I haven't seen him, really,
3831
03:26:52,176 --> 03:26:53,845
for 28 years.
3832
03:26:55,680 --> 03:26:58,416
And he said,
"I'll always love you."
3833
03:26:59,717 --> 03:27:01,052
Okay.
3834
03:27:01,085 --> 03:27:03,588
What am I supposed
to do with that?
3835
03:27:06,223 --> 03:27:08,593
Then, a year later,
3836
03:27:08,626 --> 03:27:11,729
there was a note
from Dennis McNally,
3837
03:27:11,763 --> 03:27:13,898
their publicist,
3838
03:27:13,931 --> 03:27:16,000
the designated liaison.
3839
03:27:17,602 --> 03:27:19,136
And he said, "Call me.
3840
03:27:19,170 --> 03:27:21,439
Jerry would like to see you."
3841
03:27:22,507 --> 03:27:23,741
But, I mean,
3842
03:27:23,775 --> 03:27:24,918
he was living
with somebody else,
3843
03:27:24,942 --> 03:27:26,142
had a child with someone else.
3844
03:27:28,713 --> 03:27:32,049
In order to have a conversation,
3845
03:27:32,083 --> 03:27:34,686
we had to couch it
as an interview.
3846
03:27:34,719 --> 03:27:36,888
Garcia: I mean, you really
sort of started me going.
3847
03:27:36,921 --> 03:27:39,023
You bought me
that guitar, you know?
3848
03:27:39,056 --> 03:27:41,092
You're partly responsible!
3849
03:27:41,125 --> 03:27:44,696
So I took a tape recorder
and did an interview.
3850
03:27:44,729 --> 03:27:45,797
Yeah.
3851
03:27:45,830 --> 03:27:47,632
It goes by fast.
3852
03:27:47,665 --> 03:27:49,967
The last fifteen years
has been furious.
3853
03:27:50,001 --> 03:27:51,669
I'm sorry to hear that.
3854
03:27:51,703 --> 03:27:53,237
We never decided to go somewhere
3855
03:27:53,270 --> 03:27:55,139
or to become something,
you know what I mean?
3856
03:27:55,172 --> 03:27:57,575
Yeah, it's funny...
It's funny... it's...
3857
03:27:57,609 --> 03:27:59,010
At some point or another,
3858
03:27:59,043 --> 03:28:00,578
after I got out of the hospital,
3859
03:28:00,612 --> 03:28:02,614
when I had my coma and all that,
3860
03:28:02,647 --> 03:28:04,849
somewhere in there
I... I... I kind of...
3861
03:28:04,882 --> 03:28:06,651
I have this memory now...
3862
03:28:06,684 --> 03:28:08,520
I don't know
where it came from...
3863
03:28:08,553 --> 03:28:10,822
That's like as though you and I
3864
03:28:10,855 --> 03:28:13,558
had continued with our
lives together somehow
3865
03:28:13,591 --> 03:28:15,727
and had a whole alternate life,
3866
03:28:15,760 --> 03:28:17,270
you know what I mean?
But it's like...
3867
03:28:17,294 --> 03:28:18,896
I mean, it was
incredibly awkward.
3868
03:28:18,930 --> 03:28:20,732
He says, "You know,
3869
03:28:20,765 --> 03:28:23,501
there's a part of me that
is still in love with you."
3870
03:28:23,535 --> 03:28:24,945
still is very much
in love with you, you know?
3871
03:28:24,969 --> 03:28:26,270
Still, always.
3872
03:28:26,303 --> 03:28:28,673
It's a little scary.
3873
03:28:30,207 --> 03:28:31,876
McNally: She interviewed him
3874
03:28:31,909 --> 03:28:33,878
for an article that would
appear in Tricycle.
3875
03:28:33,911 --> 03:28:35,813
It was the Buddhist magazine.
3876
03:28:35,847 --> 03:28:37,048
I arranged it.
3877
03:28:37,081 --> 03:28:38,149
She was Buddhist,
3878
03:28:38,182 --> 03:28:39,784
and he was curious about it.
3879
03:28:39,817 --> 03:28:43,087
McNally was actually
the mastermind.
3880
03:28:43,120 --> 03:28:45,523
I don't know if that's entirely
a story I want to tell.
3881
03:28:45,557 --> 03:28:47,058
Uh, suffice it to say...
3882
03:28:47,091 --> 03:28:49,927
He did all he could
to facilitate this.
3883
03:28:49,961 --> 03:28:51,696
There was something there.
3884
03:28:51,729 --> 03:28:53,565
Both of them felt it.
3885
03:28:53,598 --> 03:28:56,000
It became like
a military operation
3886
03:28:56,033 --> 03:28:59,971
to extricate Jerry
and get me in there.
3887
03:29:00,004 --> 03:29:03,274
And eventually he went
to Hawaii with Brigid.
3888
03:29:05,743 --> 03:29:07,712
I didn't know
what we were doing.
3889
03:29:09,180 --> 03:29:11,282
I had no idea what we were doing
3890
03:29:11,315 --> 03:29:15,252
until about day 3.
3891
03:29:27,765 --> 03:29:30,067
We... We started scuba diving.
3892
03:29:30,101 --> 03:29:33,037
I'd never done it before,
3893
03:29:33,070 --> 03:29:35,607
and he was...
3894
03:29:35,640 --> 03:29:37,241
masterful.
3895
03:29:37,274 --> 03:29:40,578
He was an extraordinary diver.
3896
03:29:42,379 --> 03:29:44,057
Bill Kreutzmann:
Jerry and I started diving,
3897
03:29:44,081 --> 03:29:46,250
I think back in '86.
3898
03:29:46,283 --> 03:29:48,352
You couldn't keep us
out of the water.
3899
03:29:48,385 --> 03:29:49,721
He loved diving.
3900
03:29:51,022 --> 03:29:52,624
He loved the ocean,
3901
03:29:52,657 --> 03:29:54,367
and and used to do
this thing with his hands
3902
03:29:54,391 --> 03:29:55,960
so it looked
like a squid, right?
3903
03:29:55,993 --> 03:29:57,094
Like that.
3904
03:29:57,128 --> 03:29:59,063
And fuckin'... out of nowhere
3905
03:29:59,096 --> 03:30:00,798
all these fish
would come around.
3906
03:30:00,832 --> 03:30:03,034
You know, it was like,
he had this attraction.
3907
03:30:03,067 --> 03:30:06,170
Whether it was fish,
audience, whatever, you know,
3908
03:30:06,203 --> 03:30:08,139
He always had this way
of attracting things.
3909
03:30:10,007 --> 03:30:11,375
We liked to dive
3910
03:30:11,408 --> 03:30:13,110
because it has
a sense of freedom
3911
03:30:13,144 --> 03:30:16,347
that I don't know where
else you could get that.
3912
03:30:18,182 --> 03:30:20,184
Here was this beautiful
buffer, the ocean,
3913
03:30:20,217 --> 03:30:22,754
that kept all that
outside shit away.
3914
03:30:22,787 --> 03:30:24,321
You didn't have to
sign autographs
3915
03:30:24,355 --> 03:30:25,623
or any of that crap.
3916
03:30:27,959 --> 03:30:31,128
Meier: So he turned me on
to that world of his.
3917
03:30:32,229 --> 03:30:33,798
And I loved it.
3918
03:30:34,899 --> 03:30:36,233
I loved it.
3919
03:30:42,206 --> 03:30:43,808
At one point,
3920
03:30:43,841 --> 03:30:46,944
we're tired after diving
and hanging out.
3921
03:30:46,978 --> 03:30:48,345
He just looks at me,
and he said...
3922
03:30:49,714 --> 03:30:51,348
"Would you marry me?"
3923
03:30:54,919 --> 03:30:59,056
I said, "Yeah, okay."
3924
03:31:01,192 --> 03:31:04,796
So I didn't know what we were
doing until that moment.
3925
03:31:06,263 --> 03:31:07,965
Then he got on the phone.
3926
03:31:07,999 --> 03:31:09,934
He calls Hunter,
and he calls everybody.
3927
03:31:09,967 --> 03:31:11,969
He says,
"We're getting married."
3928
03:31:12,003 --> 03:31:15,172
And he's all excited,
and he's all happy.
3929
03:31:15,206 --> 03:31:18,743
It's like, "Okay,
what do we gotta do?"
3930
03:31:20,377 --> 03:31:21,779
Acupuncture.
3931
03:31:22,880 --> 03:31:24,882
Quit smoking.
3932
03:31:24,916 --> 03:31:27,418
Exercise.
3933
03:31:27,451 --> 03:31:30,187
Walk around the lake every day.
3934
03:31:30,221 --> 03:31:33,725
We... We started
working on Bowflexes.
3935
03:31:33,758 --> 03:31:36,127
We had a trainer,
personal trainer.
3936
03:31:37,795 --> 03:31:39,230
Suddenly he feels creative
3937
03:31:39,263 --> 03:31:41,365
and he wants to start
writing songs.
3938
03:31:41,398 --> 03:31:42,934
Hey.
3939
03:31:42,967 --> 03:31:44,435
Get in there, fellers.
3940
03:31:44,468 --> 03:31:47,705
Meier: And it's like,
"Hunter, come on over."
3941
03:31:47,739 --> 03:31:50,074
They wrote six songs.
3942
03:31:50,107 --> 03:31:54,879
I mean, it was just this
amazing eruption of energy.
3943
03:31:54,912 --> 03:31:56,814
Okay, I'm ready.
3944
03:31:56,848 --> 03:32:00,051
1, 2, 3, 4.
3945
03:32:05,389 --> 03:32:07,424
Meier:
There was this feeling.
3946
03:32:09,093 --> 03:32:10,962
It was real.
3947
03:32:10,995 --> 03:32:14,165
I wasn't the only one
who felt it. They felt it.
3948
03:32:16,367 --> 03:32:18,903
It was like, we're back.
3949
03:32:20,772 --> 03:32:22,974
We're back to those days
3950
03:32:23,007 --> 03:32:24,517
when we used to pick you
up from high school
3951
03:32:24,541 --> 03:32:26,143
and drive around,
3952
03:32:26,177 --> 03:32:28,312
and we were all together,
and it was all new,
3953
03:32:28,345 --> 03:32:31,282
and it was all fresh,
and it was all...
3954
03:32:31,315 --> 03:32:33,050
alive.
3955
03:32:39,556 --> 03:32:42,259
McNally: Reconnecting with
someone after 30 years...
3956
03:32:43,995 --> 03:32:47,364
there's no way that you
can't feel, you know,
3957
03:32:47,398 --> 03:32:49,400
in some weird way
that you're young again.
3958
03:32:51,268 --> 03:32:53,004
Hunter certainly thought so.
3959
03:32:53,037 --> 03:32:56,407
He wrote "The Days Between"
about just that.
3960
03:32:58,175 --> 03:33:01,345
It's the last
Hunter-Garcia masterpiece.
3961
03:33:01,378 --> 03:33:05,116
It's about looking
back on your youth
3962
03:33:05,149 --> 03:33:08,285
and seeing your whole life
3963
03:33:08,319 --> 03:33:09,987
that has passed in the interval,
3964
03:33:10,021 --> 03:33:11,956
and that's...
That's "The Days Between."
3965
03:33:11,989 --> 03:33:13,290
It's your life.
3966
03:33:15,492 --> 03:33:18,930
♪ Walked upon a mountaintop
3967
03:33:22,967 --> 03:33:26,170
♪ Walked barefoot
through the snow ♪
3968
03:33:30,007 --> 03:33:33,177
♪ Gave the best we had to give ♪
3969
03:33:37,314 --> 03:33:40,885
♪ How much we'll never know
3970
03:33:42,219 --> 03:33:46,390
♪ Never know
3971
03:33:49,994 --> 03:33:52,029
It wasn't me.
3972
03:33:52,063 --> 03:33:54,198
It was...
3973
03:33:54,231 --> 03:33:57,168
He got in touch
with a part of him.
3974
03:33:57,201 --> 03:33:59,937
I was just a catalyst, okay?
3975
03:33:59,971 --> 03:34:02,874
But he...
3976
03:34:02,907 --> 03:34:06,577
I think he had been
suffering for a long time
3977
03:34:06,610 --> 03:34:10,181
under the weight
and responsibility
3978
03:34:10,214 --> 03:34:12,016
of this behemoth.
3979
03:34:15,019 --> 03:34:17,188
I mean, at one point...
I can... I remember him.
3980
03:34:17,221 --> 03:34:19,456
We're in the kitchen,
we're talking,
3981
03:34:19,490 --> 03:34:21,558
and he said, "You know,
3982
03:34:21,592 --> 03:34:24,628
"I'd like to just live
on the ice cream money.
3983
03:34:24,661 --> 03:34:27,198
"You know, I could do that.
3984
03:34:27,231 --> 03:34:31,335
I could just live on that
and say the hell with this."
3985
03:34:33,670 --> 03:34:35,472
And, I said,
"Well, why don't you?"
3986
03:34:36,941 --> 03:34:38,475
"Oh, man, come on,
3987
03:34:38,509 --> 03:34:42,413
"do you know how many
people are depending
3988
03:34:42,446 --> 03:34:44,848
on this show
going down the road?"
3989
03:34:48,385 --> 03:34:50,922
And I understood in that moment.
3990
03:34:50,955 --> 03:34:53,224
It was a machine by then.
3991
03:34:56,093 --> 03:34:57,929
It wasn't just a bunch of guys
3992
03:34:57,962 --> 03:35:00,864
getting together
and making music.
3993
03:35:02,599 --> 03:35:06,637
This enormous community
was demanding
3994
03:35:06,670 --> 03:35:11,242
that he be the Grateful
Dead's Jerry Garcia.
3995
03:35:15,212 --> 03:35:17,114
Where's the freedom in that?
3996
03:35:19,984 --> 03:35:23,254
McNally: The Grateful
Dead became a weight.
3997
03:35:23,287 --> 03:35:25,556
By the Grateful Dead,
I do not mean the six guys,
3998
03:35:25,589 --> 03:35:29,126
I mean the phenomenon.
3999
03:35:29,160 --> 03:35:32,663
He had fifty people,
including me,
4000
03:35:32,696 --> 03:35:35,699
whose paycheck
he was in charge of.
4001
03:35:35,732 --> 03:35:38,502
And their families.
4002
03:35:38,535 --> 03:35:41,238
And a million people
who demanded that he play
4003
03:35:41,272 --> 03:35:44,075
eighty nights a year
for their happiness factor.
4004
03:35:44,108 --> 03:35:45,342
And it was a weight.
4005
03:35:45,376 --> 03:35:46,710
It was a responsibility.
4006
03:35:46,743 --> 03:35:49,146
This was a guy who didn't
want responsibility.
4007
03:35:49,180 --> 03:35:51,115
So he self-medicated
4008
03:35:51,148 --> 03:35:55,019
and had been doing so
for a very long time.
4009
03:35:56,453 --> 03:36:01,025
Meier: I can remember a
really chilling moment.
4010
03:36:01,058 --> 03:36:05,462
I'm backstage and I'm sitting
on the black equipment boxes.
4011
03:36:05,496 --> 03:36:08,399
And the doctor is telling me,
4012
03:36:08,432 --> 03:36:10,567
yeah, Jerry's using again.
4013
03:36:12,403 --> 03:36:15,639
Suddenly, it's all too obvious.
4014
03:36:17,241 --> 03:36:19,510
He's been out of it,
4015
03:36:19,543 --> 03:36:23,514
and he's been unpleasant
to be around.
4016
03:36:26,183 --> 03:36:30,621
And then the road manager,
he's saying,
4017
03:36:30,654 --> 03:36:32,156
"You know... you know,
Jerry's cool,
4018
03:36:32,189 --> 03:36:34,025
he's cool,
he can handle this."
4019
03:36:34,058 --> 03:36:36,203
I said, "Well why don't...
Why doesn't he go into rehab?"
4020
03:36:36,227 --> 03:36:38,662
"It's cool, he's gonna kick.
He always does,
4021
03:36:38,695 --> 03:36:40,497
and just, just
hang in there with it."
4022
03:36:40,531 --> 03:36:42,166
"Why don't we just
do an intervention?"
4023
03:36:42,199 --> 03:36:45,036
"Don't say anything.
4024
03:36:45,069 --> 03:36:46,403
"This is the Grateful Dead, man.
4025
03:36:46,437 --> 03:36:49,340
"We gotta keep this show goin'.
4026
03:36:49,373 --> 03:36:51,475
We gotta keep goin'."
4027
03:36:56,147 --> 03:36:59,250
Cutler: The secret of
longevity in the music business
4028
03:36:59,283 --> 03:37:01,718
is to get away from it.
Alright?
4029
03:37:01,752 --> 03:37:04,255
You gotta leave it man.
Fuck off.
4030
03:37:04,288 --> 03:37:05,565
Learn how to be
a deep sea fisherman.
4031
03:37:05,589 --> 03:37:07,558
Go SCUBA diving.
Whatever it is.
4032
03:37:07,591 --> 03:37:14,165
Snow skiing. Become, and be,
something completely else.
4033
03:37:14,198 --> 03:37:18,135
For somebody like Garcia, I mean,
that's the only way to survive.
4034
03:37:21,505 --> 03:37:24,541
Lesh: We had staff
that, you know,
4035
03:37:24,575 --> 03:37:27,278
depended on us for their living.
4036
03:37:27,311 --> 03:37:30,181
And we convinced ourselves
that we owed it
4037
03:37:30,214 --> 03:37:32,583
to our employees to keep going.
4038
03:37:35,186 --> 03:37:37,821
Right or wrong.
4039
03:37:37,854 --> 03:37:41,692
I could wish that we'd
thought more about Jerry.
4040
03:37:41,725 --> 03:37:45,529
And, uh...
4041
03:37:45,562 --> 03:37:48,199
So, yeah.
That's a...
4042
03:37:48,232 --> 03:37:50,767
That's a tender place.
4043
03:37:58,375 --> 03:38:02,479
Meier: So, after the show,
4044
03:38:02,513 --> 03:38:05,516
we go back to the hotel room.
4045
03:38:05,549 --> 03:38:08,719
I say, "I just want you to know
4046
03:38:08,752 --> 03:38:11,522
"that I know that you're using,
4047
03:38:11,555 --> 03:38:13,857
"and that's fine,
that's okay, that's cool.
4048
03:38:13,890 --> 03:38:17,261
"You do what you wanna do,
I don't... I'm not gonna try and stop you.
4049
03:38:17,294 --> 03:38:21,832
"I just really don't want
any secrets between us.
4050
03:38:21,865 --> 03:38:25,769
You know, I just
don't want any secrets."
4051
03:38:32,143 --> 03:38:36,680
And he looked at me,
and the room got cold,
4052
03:38:36,713 --> 03:38:40,784
and he says...
4053
03:38:40,817 --> 03:38:44,821
"I think it's time
for you to go now."
4054
03:38:48,925 --> 03:38:55,232
And he said, "You know,
I can't thank you enough,
4055
03:38:55,266 --> 03:38:58,269
but this isn't gonna work."
4056
03:39:08,479 --> 03:39:10,381
The band left,
4057
03:39:10,414 --> 03:39:13,650
and then I left for the airport.
4058
03:39:15,619 --> 03:39:20,257
I never saw him again.
4059
03:39:20,291 --> 03:39:22,559
That was that.
4060
03:39:25,896 --> 03:39:29,533
McNally: Have you ever had
a friend who was addicted?
4061
03:39:29,566 --> 03:39:33,537
Until they decide that
that's what they want,
4062
03:39:33,570 --> 03:39:36,873
everything you can say
is just gonna go
4063
03:39:36,907 --> 03:39:40,511
in one ear and out the other.
4064
03:39:40,544 --> 03:39:44,381
It's not like the band
didn't talk to him.
4065
03:39:44,415 --> 03:39:47,384
It's not like the band...
The band didn't, you know,
4066
03:39:47,418 --> 03:39:51,922
stage periodic, you know,
big throw down interventions.
4067
03:39:56,793 --> 03:39:59,930
That's the way it was.
4068
03:40:02,599 --> 03:40:05,469
Parish: He was my
boss, and my friend,
4069
03:40:05,502 --> 03:40:09,206
and somebody that I wanted
to protect from harm.
4070
03:40:10,741 --> 03:40:14,678
But could I help him save
himself from his own self?
4071
03:40:16,347 --> 03:40:20,717
I always thought of
Jerry as a strong guy.
4072
03:40:20,751 --> 03:40:24,388
I remember one time when a guy
came bolting out of the audience
4073
03:40:24,421 --> 03:40:26,357
so quick before
I could get to him,
4074
03:40:26,390 --> 03:40:28,425
and he was zeroed in
on grabbin' Jerry to hug him.
4075
03:40:28,459 --> 03:40:30,227
A lot of time people
would just want to
4076
03:40:30,261 --> 03:40:32,529
jump up there and hug 'em,
you know while he's playin'...
4077
03:40:32,563 --> 03:40:35,566
It's awkward.
And Jerry took his guitar,
4078
03:40:35,599 --> 03:40:37,701
and point foremost,
bang that guy
4079
03:40:37,734 --> 03:40:40,437
right in the solar plexus
and didn't miss a note,
4080
03:40:40,471 --> 03:40:41,805
and knocked him into my arms.
4081
03:40:41,838 --> 03:40:44,275
I said, well there,
you know, you see it.
4082
03:40:44,308 --> 03:40:46,743
He was strong, you know.
4083
03:40:46,777 --> 03:40:48,879
And, I didn't ever think
4084
03:40:48,912 --> 03:40:52,549
that he would get
deteriorated in that way.
4085
03:40:54,918 --> 03:40:56,696
Kreutzmann: I always thought
we were gonna be able
4086
03:40:56,720 --> 03:40:58,989
to get through to Jerry,
4087
03:40:59,022 --> 03:41:01,268
that we were gonna be able to
help get him into treatment.
4088
03:41:01,292 --> 03:41:03,860
We had seen
Jerry clean up and...
4089
03:41:03,894 --> 03:41:05,496
We've all racked our brains.
4090
03:41:05,529 --> 03:41:07,030
...and be in great shape.
4091
03:41:07,063 --> 03:41:08,799
What could we
have done differently?
4092
03:41:08,832 --> 03:41:11,335
I had faith that Jerry
would come back around.
4093
03:41:11,368 --> 03:41:14,505
The only thing we could have
done was to have taken a break.
4094
03:41:14,538 --> 03:41:16,707
Another break.
4095
03:41:16,740 --> 03:41:18,675
You know, and I would've-
I would've-
4096
03:41:18,709 --> 03:41:20,611
I would've been
okay with it this time.
4097
03:41:20,644 --> 03:41:24,448
But I never thought
that if we did take a break
4098
03:41:24,481 --> 03:41:25,882
that Jerry would stop.
4099
03:41:25,916 --> 03:41:27,818
He would just go out
with the Jerry Garcia Band
4100
03:41:27,851 --> 03:41:29,920
and keep going.
4101
03:41:31,822 --> 03:41:34,558
Trixie: Jerry was a
very strong individual.
4102
03:41:34,591 --> 03:41:36,460
Hart: Jerry Garcia was
a lot of great things.
4103
03:41:36,493 --> 03:41:38,495
You didn't tell Jerry
what to do.
4104
03:41:38,529 --> 03:41:40,030
He was a really cool guy.
4105
03:41:40,063 --> 03:41:42,699
You know, until
he killed himself.
4106
03:41:42,733 --> 03:41:45,336
Yeah, until he killed himself.
4107
03:41:45,369 --> 03:41:47,438
That's really what happened.
4108
03:41:49,573 --> 03:41:54,478
Barlow: I remember toward the
end of the fateful last tour,...
4109
03:41:56,079 --> 03:42:00,551
they were playing
Meadowlands in New Jersey.
4110
03:42:00,584 --> 03:42:01,985
And I turned around,
4111
03:42:02,018 --> 03:42:05,956
and there's Garcia
looking all white.
4112
03:42:05,989 --> 03:42:08,792
You know, everything's,
like, his beard, his face,
4113
03:42:08,825 --> 03:42:13,397
his skin is, like,
he's-he's kind of like
4114
03:42:13,430 --> 03:42:16,633
a luminous white figure,
4115
03:42:16,667 --> 03:42:20,771
already kind of angelic.
4116
03:42:20,804 --> 03:42:24,808
And I think he'd
just had enough.
4117
03:42:26,843 --> 03:42:31,382
Cutler: Garcia was suffering,
being in the Grateful Dead.
4118
03:42:31,415 --> 03:42:33,984
I don't think that
it was the dream
4119
03:42:34,017 --> 03:42:37,821
that he, you know,
wanted realized.
4120
03:42:39,456 --> 03:42:41,124
The Grateful Dead had become
4121
03:42:41,157 --> 03:42:44,495
a hugely successful
rock and roll band,
4122
03:42:44,528 --> 03:42:47,698
and in the process, of course,
4123
03:42:47,731 --> 03:42:50,601
they lost certain things.
4124
03:42:52,703 --> 03:42:54,671
Paumgarten:
You see people cheering
4125
03:42:54,705 --> 03:42:58,074
even when they should be crying.
4126
03:42:58,108 --> 03:43:02,078
Either because
the performance is very poor
4127
03:43:02,112 --> 03:43:05,682
or because the song is-is,
you know, is a dirge.
4128
03:43:06,817 --> 03:43:10,821
♪ Yesterday I begged you
4129
03:43:15,125 --> 03:43:18,729
♪ Before I hit the ground
4130
03:43:18,762 --> 03:43:21,064
Paumgarten: He's singing
about his own death,
4131
03:43:21,097 --> 03:43:24,501
looking like he's about to die.
4132
03:43:24,535 --> 03:43:28,539
♪ All I leave behind me
4133
03:43:30,541 --> 03:43:36,447
♪ Is only what I found
4134
03:43:37,714 --> 03:43:39,115
Paumgarten:
When I was younger,
4135
03:43:39,149 --> 03:43:42,453
it made the music more
interesting for me.
4136
03:43:42,486 --> 03:43:45,021
But by '95,
4137
03:43:45,055 --> 03:43:47,624
it was a depressing and
pretty intense experience.
4138
03:43:49,660 --> 03:43:51,127
You know, he had
something in him
4139
03:43:51,161 --> 03:43:56,767
that embraced his own
self-destruction.
4140
03:44:05,576 --> 03:44:07,978
Garcia: I feel that
my real responsibility
4141
03:44:08,011 --> 03:44:10,747
is to the audience
in the now, you know?
4142
03:44:12,549 --> 03:44:14,150
There was a conscious
decision in my life
4143
03:44:14,184 --> 03:44:16,587
to be involved in something
that was flowing,
4144
03:44:16,620 --> 03:44:18,955
and dynamic, and living...
4145
03:44:18,989 --> 03:44:23,126
and not so solid that you
couldn't tear it down.
4146
03:44:24,995 --> 03:44:26,697
Something that had
a life of its own
4147
03:44:26,730 --> 03:44:29,432
and I was just a part of it.
4148
03:44:33,737 --> 03:44:36,940
McNally: Monuments are an
attempt to subvert death.
4149
03:44:36,973 --> 03:44:39,442
To transcend death.
4150
03:44:41,144 --> 03:44:45,582
To make a monument of
something freezes it forever.
4151
03:44:47,784 --> 03:44:51,622
That is exactly opposite
what Jerry wanted.
4152
03:44:55,125 --> 03:44:59,930
From the very beginning,
Jerry wanted to do something
4153
03:44:59,963 --> 03:45:02,499
in real time
4154
03:45:02,533 --> 03:45:04,768
and to touch people's hearts.
4155
03:45:06,870 --> 03:45:09,840
He wanted to make
the Grateful Dead
4156
03:45:09,873 --> 03:45:13,510
as open-ended as possible.
4157
03:45:15,245 --> 03:45:16,813
Garcia: For me it
has a lot to do with
4158
03:45:16,847 --> 03:45:19,015
getting out of the way,
you know what I mean?
4159
03:45:19,049 --> 03:45:24,788
At some point I decided
not to be "me"
4160
03:45:24,821 --> 03:45:27,858
and to be "they."
4161
03:45:27,891 --> 03:45:31,728
When it's something more
than my own little self.
4162
03:45:31,762 --> 03:45:34,798
That's it, that's the goal.
4163
03:45:36,800 --> 03:45:40,771
McNally: In the last year and a
half, two year of his life,
4164
03:45:40,804 --> 03:45:45,275
when the diabetes was
playing havoc with his moods,
4165
03:45:45,308 --> 03:45:47,911
I knew he didn't
want to do interviews,
4166
03:45:47,944 --> 03:45:51,281
and so I didn't ask him.
4167
03:45:51,314 --> 03:45:54,117
But six months before he died,
4168
03:45:54,150 --> 03:45:57,954
I got a request,
and I took one look
4169
03:45:57,988 --> 03:46:00,891
and I went "This
he's going to want to do."
4170
03:46:00,924 --> 03:46:04,728
Garcia: My mother, I think,
must of taken me to see it.
4171
03:46:04,761 --> 03:46:07,664
McNally: The interview was for a
show on the American Movie Channel
4172
03:46:07,698 --> 03:46:09,766
called "The Movie
That Changed My Life."
4173
03:46:09,800 --> 03:46:11,301
Garcia:
You know I had my head down
4174
03:46:11,334 --> 03:46:12,903
and I cried
and except occasionally
4175
03:46:12,936 --> 03:46:14,971
I would glimpse the screen
and go, "Oh, ah!"
4176
03:46:15,005 --> 03:46:16,272
He immediately just sat down
4177
03:46:16,306 --> 03:46:18,241
and said, "Oh yeah!"
4178
03:46:18,274 --> 03:46:20,010
And started talking
for half an hour.
4179
03:46:22,613 --> 03:46:24,781
Garcia: That whole
business evoked something.
4180
03:46:24,815 --> 03:46:27,283
It like, touched something,
you know what I mean?
4181
03:46:27,317 --> 03:46:29,185
Something... I don't know what.
4182
03:46:29,219 --> 03:46:31,254
Something very strong.
4183
03:46:31,287 --> 03:46:34,324
It might have been the-
the thing of
4184
03:46:34,357 --> 03:46:35,959
a dead thing brought to life.
4185
03:46:37,227 --> 03:46:38,795
Frankenstein's Monster,
after all,
4186
03:46:38,829 --> 03:46:42,132
is a drive to reanimate or to...
4187
03:46:42,165 --> 03:46:44,801
To produce life.
4188
03:46:44,835 --> 03:46:47,237
Dr. Frankenstein:
It's alive.
4189
03:46:47,270 --> 03:46:49,740
Garcia: And it hit me in
that archetypal center.
4190
03:46:49,773 --> 03:46:51,842
Dr. Frankenstein:
It's alive!
4191
03:46:51,875 --> 03:46:53,309
You know like, vaboom, you know?
4192
03:46:53,343 --> 03:46:54,645
Dong, you know?
4193
03:46:54,678 --> 03:46:56,713
♪ Death don't
4194
03:46:59,015 --> 03:47:01,584
♪ Have no mercy
4195
03:47:03,153 --> 03:47:06,156
♪ In this land
4196
03:47:08,759 --> 03:47:10,393
Garcia:
But, really it's workin'.
4197
03:47:10,426 --> 03:47:13,964
The Grateful Dead is this
living, breathing thing.
4198
03:47:13,997 --> 03:47:17,167
♪ Death don't
4199
03:47:17,200 --> 03:47:18,635
It's not up to us to define it.
4200
03:47:18,669 --> 03:47:19,970
♪ Have no mercy
4201
03:47:20,003 --> 03:47:22,706
Or to enclose it in any way.
4202
03:47:22,739 --> 03:47:24,641
♪ In this land
4203
03:47:24,675 --> 03:47:25,909
It's whatever it is.
4204
03:47:28,378 --> 03:47:31,915
♪ In this land
4205
03:47:31,948 --> 03:47:34,785
I think that's one of
the parts of its magic.
4206
03:47:36,286 --> 03:47:39,823
The effect seems to be
not defining it
4207
03:47:39,856 --> 03:47:41,291
is that it becomes everything.
4208
03:49:00,436 --> 03:49:03,073
Woman: Nancy Smith and Ed
Rooney were the two winners,
4209
03:49:03,106 --> 03:49:04,875
but we're gonna break in
and break format,
4210
03:49:04,908 --> 03:49:06,309
- um, for a moment here.
- Man: Yes.
4211
03:49:06,342 --> 03:49:09,179
Woman:
We just got some real bad news.
4212
03:49:11,547 --> 03:49:13,283
Reporter:
Okay, that's fantastic.
4213
03:49:13,316 --> 03:49:14,918
- Thank you.
- You're welcome.
4214
03:49:14,951 --> 03:49:16,419
My pleasure.
I really enjoyed it.
4215
03:49:16,452 --> 03:49:17,797
Male reporter: Could I
take a few quick photos?
4216
03:49:17,821 --> 03:49:19,022
Oh, god, if you have to.
4217
03:49:19,055 --> 03:49:20,532
Male Reporter 2:
It's incredibly tragic,
4218
03:49:20,556 --> 03:49:22,392
and it's a little
frustrating right now
4219
03:49:22,425 --> 03:49:24,761
because we don't know
anything more than the fact
4220
03:49:24,795 --> 03:49:27,397
that Jerry Garcia has died.
4221
03:49:27,430 --> 03:49:29,265
He was found dead
a couple of hours ago.
4222
03:49:29,299 --> 03:49:30,376
Male Reporter 3: There's no easy
way to break this news to you,
4223
03:49:30,400 --> 03:49:33,403
but it's true, the unthinkable,
4224
03:49:33,436 --> 03:49:35,105
and the inevitable has happened,
4225
03:49:35,138 --> 03:49:38,108
and Jerry's gone.
4226
03:49:38,141 --> 03:49:40,052
Male Reporter 4: ...Grateful
Dead died earlier this morning
4227
03:49:40,076 --> 03:49:42,278
in California,
of an apparent heart attack.
4228
03:49:42,312 --> 03:49:46,249
Male Reporter 5: He's said to have
died with a smile on his face.
4229
03:49:50,353 --> 03:49:53,356
Garcia: Well, thanks a lot,
you guys, I certainly enjoyed it.
4230
03:49:53,389 --> 03:49:54,891
Woman:
Thank you.
4231
03:49:57,360 --> 03:50:03,433
♪ Fare you well, my honey
4232
03:50:07,270 --> 03:50:14,110
♪ Fare you well,
my only true one ♪
4233
03:50:16,079 --> 03:50:21,051
♪ All the birds
that were singing ♪
4234
03:50:23,586 --> 03:50:26,990
♪ Are flown
4235
03:50:27,023 --> 03:50:32,963
♪ Except you alone
4236
03:50:32,996 --> 03:50:35,065
Man: Hi. Bob would like
to make a brief statement,
4237
03:50:35,098 --> 03:50:36,432
and please, no questions.
4238
03:50:38,234 --> 03:50:41,604
♪ Going to leave
this brokedown palace ♪
4239
03:50:41,637 --> 03:50:44,474
Well, I guess some sad
news has come our way.
4240
03:50:44,507 --> 03:50:46,409
This morning, Jerry Garcia,
4241
03:50:46,442 --> 03:50:49,012
our friend and my brother,
4242
03:50:49,045 --> 03:50:51,848
passed away.
4243
03:50:51,882 --> 03:50:54,050
And I guess not much
can be said about that,
4244
03:50:54,084 --> 03:50:58,188
except that we also
have to remember
4245
03:50:58,221 --> 03:51:01,124
that his life was a...
4246
03:51:01,157 --> 03:51:03,326
far more a blessing
for all of us.
4247
03:51:03,359 --> 03:51:05,295
And I think we should,
perhaps, if we're gonna
4248
03:51:05,328 --> 03:51:08,098
dwell on anything,
dwell on that.
4249
03:51:11,267 --> 03:51:12,869
Thank you.
4250
03:51:12,903 --> 03:51:15,638
♪ In a bed, in a bed
4251
03:51:15,671 --> 03:51:20,176
♪ By the waterside
I will lay my head ♪
4252
03:51:20,210 --> 03:51:24,647
♪ Listen to the river
sing sweet songs ♪
4253
03:51:24,680 --> 03:51:27,250
♪ To rock my soul
4254
03:51:31,054 --> 03:51:35,892
Weir: Jerry wasn't interested
in building something
4255
03:51:35,926 --> 03:51:40,230
that will stand
the test of time.
4256
03:51:40,263 --> 03:51:44,901
But I-I don't think
that what we see
4257
03:51:44,935 --> 03:51:50,173
as time can put an end
to what we had.
4258
03:51:50,206 --> 03:51:53,176
I think it was, is,
and will be there.
4259
03:51:55,511 --> 03:51:58,014
Those moments were more alive
4260
03:51:58,048 --> 03:52:02,218
than-than anything
that a heart pumps out.
4261
03:52:05,155 --> 03:52:07,223
That's what we were living for.
4262
03:52:08,691 --> 03:52:12,395
And that was what we were
trying to coax through
4263
03:52:12,428 --> 03:52:14,297
on any given night on stage.
4264
03:52:20,536 --> 03:52:22,538
That was the fun.
4265
03:52:22,572 --> 03:52:24,207
That was the fun
he was talking about.
4266
03:52:24,240 --> 03:52:26,409
That's eternity.
4267
03:52:26,442 --> 03:52:30,080
♪ River gonna take me
4268
03:52:30,113 --> 03:52:33,616
♪ Sing me sweet and sleepy
4269
03:52:35,251 --> 03:52:38,054
♪ Sing me sweet and sleepy
4270
03:52:38,088 --> 03:52:41,557
♪ All the way back back home
4271
03:52:43,359 --> 03:52:47,163
♪ It's a far gone lullaby
4272
03:52:47,197 --> 03:52:51,601
♪ Sung many years ago
4273
03:52:51,634 --> 03:52:55,538
♪ Mama, Mama,
many worlds I've come ♪
4274
03:52:55,571 --> 03:52:58,975
♪ Since I first left home
4275
03:53:00,276 --> 03:53:03,346
♪ Going home, going home
4276
03:53:03,379 --> 03:53:08,118
♪ By the waterside
I will rest my bones ♪
4277
03:53:08,151 --> 03:53:12,088
♪ Listen to the river
sing sweet songs ♪
4278
03:53:12,122 --> 03:53:14,657
♪ To rock my soul
4279
03:53:18,761 --> 03:53:22,465
Garcia: I'm real happy
with the Grateful Dead.
4280
03:53:22,498 --> 03:53:25,035
I'm real happy with it.
4281
03:53:25,068 --> 03:53:27,370
What I'm hopin' is to be able to
4282
03:53:27,403 --> 03:53:30,573
see some way of extending
this idea beyond ourselves.
4283
03:53:30,606 --> 03:53:32,442
You know what I mean?
I wanna be feeling
4284
03:53:32,475 --> 03:53:35,211
that this idea
can continue without us.
4285
03:53:35,245 --> 03:53:37,547
It doesn't have to be
the Grateful Dead,
4286
03:53:37,580 --> 03:53:40,250
but something, you know?
4287
03:53:40,283 --> 03:53:43,119
Kerouac's books opened up
doors for me that...
4288
03:53:43,153 --> 03:53:45,255
That put me in
this life, you know?
4289
03:53:45,288 --> 03:53:47,457
I would like to do that
for somebody else,
4290
03:53:47,490 --> 03:53:49,659
you know what I mean?
4291
03:53:49,692 --> 03:53:51,561
And then it will
be there for anybody
4292
03:53:51,594 --> 03:53:55,098
who's got the spirit
to go for it.
4293
03:53:56,399 --> 03:53:59,569
♪ Fare you well, fare you well ♪
4294
03:53:59,602 --> 03:54:03,773
♪ I love you more
than words can tell ♪
4295
03:54:03,806 --> 03:54:07,443
♪ Listen to the river
sing sweet songs ♪
4296
03:54:07,477 --> 03:54:10,680
♪ To rock my soul
4297
03:54:10,713 --> 03:54:17,553
♪ Doo-doo-doo, doo-doo-doo-doo ♪
4298
03:54:19,189 --> 03:54:25,695
♪ Doo doo-doo-doo,
doo-doo doo-doo ♪
4299
03:54:25,728 --> 03:54:29,465
♪ Doo-doo-doo
4300
03:54:29,499 --> 03:54:34,404
♪ Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo
4301
03:54:34,437 --> 03:54:37,707
♪ Doo doo-doo-doo
4302
03:54:37,740 --> 03:54:40,743
♪ Doo-doo doo-doo
4303
03:54:40,776 --> 03:54:45,181
♪ Doo-doo do doo-doo-doo
4304
03:54:45,215 --> 03:54:49,419
♪ Doo-doo doo-doo
4305
03:55:31,227 --> 03:55:35,165
♪ If my words did glow ♪
4306
03:55:35,198 --> 03:55:39,402
♪ With the gold of sunshine ♪
4307
03:55:39,435 --> 03:55:43,506
♪ And my tunes were played ♪
4308
03:55:43,539 --> 03:55:46,709
♪ On the harp unstrung ♪
4309
03:55:46,742 --> 03:55:50,313
♪ Would you hear my voice ♪
4310
03:55:50,346 --> 03:55:54,450
♪ Come through
the music? ♪
4311
03:55:54,484 --> 03:55:59,189
♪ Would you hold it near ♪
4312
03:56:26,349 --> 03:56:30,520
♪ Let there be songs
4313
03:56:30,553 --> 03:56:32,855
♪ To fill the air
4314
03:56:35,858 --> 03:56:40,763
♪ Ripple in still water ♪
4315
03:56:42,432 --> 03:56:46,669
♪ When there is
no pebble tossed ♪
4316
03:56:46,702 --> 03:56:49,639
♪ Nor wind to blow
4317
03:56:49,672 --> 03:56:52,308
♪ Reach out your hand ♪
4318
03:57:44,794 --> 03:57:48,898
♪ That path is for
4319
03:57:48,931 --> 03:57:51,301
♪ Your steps alone
4320
03:57:54,870 --> 03:57:59,875
♪ Ripple in still water ♪
4321
03:58:01,411 --> 03:58:05,348
♪ When there is
no pebble tossed ♪
4322
03:58:05,381 --> 03:58:08,651
♪ Nor wind to blow
4323
03:58:08,684 --> 03:58:11,821
♪ You who choose
4324
03:58:11,854 --> 03:58:17,293
♪ To lead must follow ♪
4325
03:58:17,327 --> 03:58:20,863
♪ But if you fall
4326
03:58:20,896 --> 03:58:23,899
♪ You fall alone
4327
03:58:23,933 --> 03:58:27,737
♪ If you should stand ♪
4328
03:58:27,770 --> 03:58:30,940
♪ Then who's
to guide you? ♪
4329
03:58:33,008 --> 03:58:36,479
♪ If I knew the way
4330
03:58:36,512 --> 03:58:39,615
♪ I would take you home ♪
4331
03:58:39,649 --> 03:58:43,319
♪ La-da-da-da
4332
03:58:43,353 --> 03:58:46,522
♪ La-da-da-da-da-da
4333
03:58:48,057 --> 03:58:51,927
♪ Da-da-da, da-da
4334
03:58:51,961 --> 03:58:54,964
♪ Da-da, da-da-da
4335
03:58:54,997 --> 03:58:58,734
♪ Da-da-da-da
4336
03:58:58,768 --> 03:59:04,039
♪ Da-da-da-da-da-da
4337
03:59:04,073 --> 03:59:07,677
♪ Da-da-da-da
4338
03:59:07,710 --> 03:59:11,847
♪ Da-da da-da da
4339
03:59:14,784 --> 03:59:16,118
Thanks a lot.
4340
03:59:16,151 --> 03:59:18,754
See you in a little while.
4341
03:59:35,738 --> 03:59:39,008
♪ I wanna tell you
how it's gonna be ♪
4342
03:59:42,011 --> 03:59:45,047
♪ You're gonna
give your love to me ♪
4343
03:59:48,083 --> 03:59:51,821
♪ I wanna love you
night and day ♪
4344
03:59:54,424 --> 03:59:57,693
♪ You know my love
will not fade away ♪
4345
04:00:00,195 --> 04:00:04,500
♪ You know my love
will not fade away ♪
4346
04:00:04,534 --> 04:00:06,602
♪ Not fade away
4347
04:00:37,500 --> 04:00:40,670
♪ My love is bigger
than a Cadillac ♪
4348
04:00:43,573 --> 04:00:46,776
♪ I try to show you
but you drive me back ♪
4349
04:00:49,579 --> 04:00:53,115
♪ Your love for me
has got to be real ♪
4350
04:00:55,818 --> 04:00:59,455
♪ You're gonna know
just how I feel ♪
4351
04:01:02,191 --> 04:01:06,729
♪ Our love is real,
not fade away ♪
4352
04:01:06,762 --> 04:01:08,664
♪ Not fade away
4353
04:01:08,688 --> 04:01:10,688
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