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MIA FARROW: I didn't know
the doctor had to report this.
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I went just to be
sure she was all right,
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and she's not all right, Woody!
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FRANK MACO: I
received a complaint
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about alleged sexual
abuse on one Woody Allen.
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SPEAKER 2: Woody
gave a press conference,
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and our jaws dropped.
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He's turned it all back and
focused on his relationship
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with Soon-Yi.
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SPEAKER 2: This
is a woman scorned.
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This is a unhinged woman.
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That's Woody's narrative.
He's trying to distract.
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MIA: You brought charges
against me as an unfit mother.
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WOODY ALLEN: And
I'm gonna make them stick.
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SPEAKER 3: There was
no sense that the motivation
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was his deep love
for these children.
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Every little idiosyncrasy
was used against me.
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SPEAKER 4: Everybody
wanted to know
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how this was going to end.
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MACO: I was confident
there was probable cause,
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but this case hinged
on the testimony
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of a seven-year-old girl.
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- (shutters snapping)
- (reporters chattering)
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At this time,
I'd like to read a written decision.
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This decision addresses
certain sexual assault allegations
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surrounding events in Bridgewater,
Connecticut,
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on August 4th, 1992,
involving Mr. Woody Allen.
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I consider the state
police investigation
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to be thorough and complete,
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and I commend the
investigator for their efforts
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performed in an atmosphere
that was anything but conducive
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to a smooth-running
investigation.
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As to the allegations contained
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in the submitted arrest
warrant application,
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I find that probable
cause exists.
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(current day): The option was
clear... Have Allen arrested,
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go to trial ultimately,
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and then put the child on
the stand as my first witness.
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But my concern was the
further traumatization of the child.
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She had already
been through so much.
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Was it truly in her best
interest to put her on the stand?
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Reporter 1: This is a story of two
of the biggest stars in the world.
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Reporter 2: The father is Woody
Allen... writer, director, actor.
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The mother is Mia Farrow,
his frequent costar
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and the mother of his three children,
two of them adopted.
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Reporter 3: Woody and Mia
have been together for 12 years,
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but never married and
kept separate residences.
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Reporter 4: She
reportedly has a video
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of their adopted daughter Dylan
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explaining how
Allen molested her.
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Allen denies child abuse,
but freely admits
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he's in love with another
of Farrow's daughters,
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21-year-old Soon-Yi.
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Reporter 5: Allen said
the newest allegations are
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the bizarre concoctions
of a woman scorned.
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Woman: Ms. Farrow's only
concern has been exclusively
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the protection of her children.
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♪ ♪
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Frank Maco: I met
with Dylan Farrow
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in early September of 1993,
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in what we considered to be
a child-friendly atmosphere.
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In my office,
we had stuffed animal toys
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strewn around the library.
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The child was also there
with a female state trooper
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that she had a fairly
good relationship with.
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I'm on the floor with Dylan,
playing with the toys.
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I'm telling her about my son.
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After some time,
I start questioning her
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about her relationship with
what I called "Daddy Woody."
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She was totally unresponsive.
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You could see a glazed
look over her eyes.
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I said, "Tell me what-what-what,
about Daddy Woody."
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Nothing. Nothing at all.
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Complete freezing at that point.
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The strongest proponents for
prosecution just looked at me,
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and we all shrugged
our shoulders.
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We weren't going
anywhere with this child.
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(at press conference):
I found probable cause.
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Yet despite meeting
that standard,
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and because of the risk of
exposing a child complainant
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to the rigors, uncertainties,
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and possible traumatization
of such actions,
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accordingly,
I am announcing my decision
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not to initiate a prosecution.
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(current day): The case,
for all practical purposes,
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ended with my decision,
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September of '93.
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Reporter: Prosecutor says
he will always be available
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to Dylan as she grows up
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to explain what happened and
why he did not press charges.
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But one day,
Dylan may certainly wonder
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if authorities made
the right decision
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by excusing Woody's
alleged behavior
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to spare her a public trial.
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Mia Farrow: I did
not want more of this.
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I didn't want more press,
more courts.
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I was just glad to
have my children.
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I just wanted nothing more.
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No punishment of Woody
would be worth punishing Dylan.
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We just needed it
to be peaceful again.
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(reporters chattering)
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- Here? - Woman: Yes.
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Is there... is there a light?
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- (chatter continues)
- Woody Allen: Okay.
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Well, here I go.
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While...
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While one might think that
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I would be happy or grateful
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over the decision to
drop the investigation
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by the Connecticut authorities,
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I am merely disgusted
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that my children have been
made to suffer unbearably
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by the unwholesome alliance
between a vindictive mother
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and a cowardly,
dishonest, irresponsible
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state's attorney and his police.
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I want to send this
message to my little girl.
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Don't worry. The dark
forces will not prevail.
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- (children chattering)
- (birds chirping)
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Dylan Farrow: After
the whole custody trial...
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my mom stopped having
to go to court all the time,
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and we moved away from the city.
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- (splash) - Mia: Woo!
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That was great!
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- It was? - Mia: Yes!
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- Woman: Hey, come and do your handstand!
- Wait, Mama,
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- I want you to see something.
- Mia: Okay.
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Dylan: And there was
sort of a grace period
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where I thought, "Okay.
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This is great. I
can start over."
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(inaudible)
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We never talked about
Soon-Yi or Woody.
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But,
there was a long period of guilt for me.
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I felt like I had
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caused a rift in my family.
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I felt if I just, you know,
kept, kept his secret that
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I could've spared
my mom all this grief
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and my brothers and sisters,
myself.
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I mean,
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none of my older siblings
were ever the same.
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Mia: How you feeling, Daisy?
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Daisy Previn: I just remember
my family was turned upside down.
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We were all devastated.
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It was a sad time.
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I think most of us
tried to just kinda
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get through with our lives.
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Mia: Kids! Fletcher
is leaving for college!
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Come say good-bye!
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Fletcher Previn: We
were a tight family unit,
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and, um...
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uh...
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that was much less
so the case after this.
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People went into survival mode.
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It was just a really
difficult time for everybody.
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Especially Dylan.
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Mia: Well,
Santa didn't forget you, did he?
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- Nope!
- Child: We used to have one of these.
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Quincy Farrow: When she was growing up,
she was sullen
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and anxiety-riddled, like,
riddled with anxiety.
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I mean, I was younger,
but even then,
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the signs of her being
depressed were obvious.
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What are you doing with that?
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Mia: Taking your picture.
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Minh Turnbull: She
was always hidden away,
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writing her stories or
she was drawing and...
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She kept to herself a lot.
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So I didn't feel
the right to ask
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or I didn't think it was my place,
so...
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The only reason I even knew
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about anything that
had happened is from
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the news and
media and that's it.
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And it was kind of like
a Voldemort situation.
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"He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named"
situation.
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He was never brought up.
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Dylan: Growing up,
I never spoke about it
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with any of my siblings.
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None of them asked.
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You know,
they all went through their own gauntlet
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of emotions over this.
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(indistinct chatter)
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Mia and children:
Is she 7? Is she 8?
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Is she 9? Is she 10?
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Is she 11? Is she 12? Is she 13?
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Is she 14? Yay, 14!
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(clapping)
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Dylan: I spent a lot
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of high school feeling like
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there was something
fundamentally wrong with me.
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(blowing)
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I felt like I was
the only person
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that this had ever happened to.
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I was completely isolated.
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You know,
I was hiding a part of myself that...
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um,
I really should've been honest about.
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I could've had
healthier relationships
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with friends, with men,
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with my siblings.
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I didn't even speak about it
in any depth with my mom.
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Even with my therapist.
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♪ ♪
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I had literally one boyfriend
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in high school,
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and that lasted three weeks.
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I just remember listening
to some of the other girls
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in my class talk
about the things
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they were doing with boys,
and thinking,
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"Oh my god. At some point...
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he's gonna want this."
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And that was terrifying.
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So I broke up with him.
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And it was a
relationship I wanted.
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- (laughs) Yes.
- Mia: Breaking up with a certain person?
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- Is that what you were doing?
- Yes.
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Mia: So how do you feel?
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- Very liberated.
- Mia: Good for you.
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- Yeah. I feel kind of bad for him though.
- Mia: Aw.
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What made you do it?
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I just needed more space,
more time.
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Mia: So what's the next plan?
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What are your priorities?
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Michael Parkinson: Ladies and gentlemen,
Mr. Woody Allen.
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- (applause) - (music playing)
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(crowd cheering)
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(cheering continues)
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(music ends)
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- (applause
continues) - Thank you.
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(coughs)
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Could I ask you about the crisis
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that you had recently in your
life regarding your wife Soon-Yi
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and all the surrounding
stories that were about that?
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Did that have an effect on
your perception within America?
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I mean,
did it make you less popular?
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Did it have an effect on your
work? Did it affect your mood?
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No,
it was an interesting thing. Um...
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I had always been unpopular.
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- (laughter) - And...
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when I was going through public,
uh...
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talk about my life,
my private life,
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all it did,
those people that had never liked me
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reconfirmed it. They said,
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"I always knew he was
a terrible little cockroach
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- and this proves it."
- (laughter)
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Those people that like
me continue to like me.
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You know,
it was of no consequence.
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Woody: Apart from
not going out in public
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without a fake nose and glasses,
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I simply went about my
business and worked.
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Being innocent,
I felt it's not my problem.
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Let them carry on.
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I'm not gonna sacrifice
precious work time
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over a bad call.
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Their high-profile
affair stunned the public
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and became grist
for the tabloids.
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Now,
actor and film director Woody Allen
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and his long-time
girlfriend Soon-Yi Previn
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are husband and wife.
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The 62-year-old Allen
and 27-year-old Previn
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were married Tuesday
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at a small,
secret wedding in Venice, Italy.
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- (Soon-Yi laughing) -Woody: Yes,
you're right. It's me.
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It's me. You've seen me
in those films. I'm the guy.
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- (laughing) - (chatter,
clapping)
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- Woody: Hi, fellas. Don't get too excited.
- (cheering)
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- I come here a few times a year.
- (shutters snapping)
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(birds chirping)
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(Amy Ziering speaking)
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- Mm-hmm. I did, um, but...
- Yes.
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I never brought
them home because...
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I just...
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didn't wanna risk anybody
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falling for one of my beautiful
children or grandchildren.
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If I couldn't trust
Woody after 12 years,
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how would I...
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I would never take another
risk with anybody else.
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I don't know. I don't
trust myself to know.
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How would you know?
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I don't know. So I never
brought them home.
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♪ ♪
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Mia: Want the box open, honey?
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Wow, his front tooth.
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He lost it. What do you
have to say about it?
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- How does it feel? - Great!
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Ronan Farrow: My
mother did such a good job
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of shielding us
from all of this.
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She went above and
beyond to never say
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anything that would be
construed as critical of my father
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or pushing us to think or
say one thing or another.
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She really just tried to
distance us and shield us.
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But, for all of us growing up,
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there was always
a lot of incentive
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to be drawn into
Woody Allen's efforts
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to discredit my sister.
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For example,
he made funding my college education
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contingent on me
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speaking out in
his support publicly.
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The offer always stood that
if I were willing to publicly
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go against my
mother and my sister,
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that he would offer
financial support,
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support for my education,
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and perhaps, you know,
a comfortable life
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with a powerful,
influential guy.
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Fletcher: I think it
was hugely derailing
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for my mom,
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personally and professionally.
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I think it's pretty devastating if
you build a life with somebody
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and have a large family,
and then,
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turns out that everything you
thought was true was not true.
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♪ ♪
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Mia: Nobody really wanted to
hire me except in other countries.
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I think slightly this way, yeah.
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Mia: I got offered movies
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in Ireland and in France.
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So I took every job I could.
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Woody told me I would never
work again in this country.
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I didn't know... Yeah. He said,
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"No one will ever
hire you again."
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But then, UNICEF invited
me to come on board with them
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on the issue of polio.
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Mia (on video): Polio eradication
means a lot to me personally.
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I was afflicted with
polio as a child.
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And then,
they made me an ambassador,
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and then I said I
wanna go to Darfur
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because there was a
genocide unfolding there.
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If you can leave people with one
image of what you want people to know,
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- what would that be?
- Two and a half million people
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have been driven
out of their villages
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and are forced to live
amidst deplorable conditions
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in these refugee camps.
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It was just deeply
meaningful work.
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And that became
completely consuming.
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(crowd cheering)
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We need the political
will to act now.
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We need moral
leadership to act now.
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Announcer: Live from the Kodak
Theater at Hollywood and Highland...
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(applause)
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Welcome to the 74th
Annual Academy Awards.
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- (crowd cheering)
- (music playing)
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(cheering continues)
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Let me tell you
why I'm here exactly.
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About four weeks ago,
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I was sitting home in my
apartment in New York,
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and the phone rang,
and a voice on the other end said,
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"This is the Motion Picture
Academy of Arts and Sciences."
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And I panicked immediately
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because I thought that they
wanted their Oscars back.
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- (laughter) -Charlie
Rose: Tell me why we're all
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so fascinated by Woody Allen.
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Is it just talent or
is it something else?
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- Good writing, good directing.
- Right.
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- You usually get a really good movie at the end of it.
- Yeah.
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- He has a mystique to him, you know?
- Right.
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And actors love him
because he trusts them.
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- (applause) - I'm in debt
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to my loyal friend
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and, uh, remarkable artist,
Woody Allen.
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Thank you for having
written over all these years
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some of the greatest
characters for women.
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For any actor,
it's always an extraordinary experience
367
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to have the chance to
work those dialogues.
368
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I feel very lucky to
be sitting on this couch
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with, with a, a proven genius.
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Claire Dederer: We have
this idea of the genius,
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the artist, the doer,
the person who's making things happen
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and they're controlling
the narrative,
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and we wanna align with
that and we wanna believe in it.
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We wanna identify
with these characters.
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We spend our lives listening
to their side of the story.
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We wanna be next to power.
We wanna be next to the winner.
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PJ Grisar: Woody
Allen is someone who
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we accept as kind
of this philosopher.
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And if we hear anything
troubling about a person
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that sort of might've, uh,
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informed our values at all,
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we're not gonna
wanna believe it.
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I think so much of this
is about our willingness
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to not know the things so that
we don't have to deal with it.
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When you're forced to see,
when you're forced to know...
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it's so dispiriting.
387
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It's so hopeless.
It's so uncomfortable.
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It's just easier, right?
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To opt out and to go back.
390
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- What? - The movie, your movie?
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The French have seen
your movie in Paris,
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and they say it's the greatest
American film in 50 years!
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- You're kidding. - No, no, no!
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You're being hailed
as a true artist!
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There's an additional
layer of distortion
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when this kind of an allegation
is raised against someone who is
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not just beloved in
a traditional sense,
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but beloved in a
way where people
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have an identity
association with it.
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Where it's existential to them that
they grew up loving Woody Allen.
401
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You see it with a lot of fans
of individuals who are accused
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of terrible and serious
things in a credible way.
403
00:20:52,494 --> 00:20:55,035
About two hours ago,
Michael Jackson was arrested
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on child molestation charges.
405
00:20:56,827 --> 00:20:59,993
I think it's just all
fabricated. It's lies.
406
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It makes me cross,
makes me very angry.
407
00:21:02,494 --> 00:21:03,803
There have been
a lot of people that,
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once they do research
and they look into
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what the truth really was,
410
00:21:06,827 --> 00:21:09,327
they finally understand what
happened to Michael Jackson.
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Anna Salter: I think the public
has a great deal of trouble
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believing that someone they like
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could be a sex offender.
414
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The public is very harsh
towards sex offenders,
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as long as they are
over there and unlikable.
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Bill Cosby was my
boyhood mentor.
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- There was no one bigger.
- Woman: Mm-hmm.
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Wendy Williams: Over a dozen
women have come forward,
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alleging that they've been
raped by the legendary comic.
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Craig Melvin: So watching this
play out over the last few years,
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- for a lot of folks, it's very, very difficult.
- Woman: Mm-hmm.
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Anna: The kind of attachment
that people get to celebrities,
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it's a little like the attachment
they have to a family member,
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just projected on someone that
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they've never
actually spoken to.
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Reporter: Roman
Polanski became famous
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as the director of such
classics as "Chinatown."
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He has been
infamous for having sex
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with a 13-year-old girl.
430
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People get very invested
in that person's persona,
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and they trust them.
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People don't give
up trust easily.
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Howard Stern: This director
who raped a 13-year-old.
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Quentin Tarantino: He
didn't rape a 13-year-old.
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- It was statutory rape, alright?
- Howard: Alright.
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Robin Quivers: Well so,
why do you side with him?
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Quentin: Because I... his
version sounds more likely.
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♪ ♪
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She wasn't unschooled
in sexual matters.
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She was consenting and willing.
441
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So then,
you have sex against your will.
442
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- This is not consensual.
- This is not consensual. I was, "No, no."
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Anna: If you are powerful,
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celebrities, rich men,
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people are more likely
to believe your denials.
446
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You are nearly
impossible to prosecute.
447
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Interviewer: But
what's the position now
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with regard to,
to your children?
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Woody: I'm
still... I still don't
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- see my daughter. I... - Oh.
451
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I left her. She threw
her arms around me,
452
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uh,
and gave me a list of presents to,
453
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to bring back to her the
next day I was gonna see her,
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which was two days later,
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and she was 7 years old then.
456
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And we were, you know, close,
and she was crazy about me,
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and I was crazy about her. Am,
still, of course.
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And I have not
been able to see her.
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(birds chirping)
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Luna! See this?
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- Go get it!
- Sean: She going for it?
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- Nope. - (dogs panting)
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These dogs don't hunt.
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Dylan: She used to.
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She used to be more
interested in toys,
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but now you're older and wiser.
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(panting continues)
468
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Sean: When we first met,
we were both at like
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pivotal dating moments in
our lives where we were both
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looking for something
serious at the same time.
471
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I was going on The
Onion for satire purposes,
472
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and I saw they had a dating site
473
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powered by OKCupid,
and I'm like, why not?
474
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Maybe I'll find someone funny.
475
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I put this ultra,
476
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very honest post up...
477
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Profile up there,
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saying I'm a geek,
but you can take me out in public.
479
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I shower, I promise. You know?
480
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And within the first day,
I got this
481
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really surprising
message from this
482
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really smokin' hot girl
with this burgundy bob,
483
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and this cute little chin,
and I was like...
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And it said,
"You didn't mention you were a cute geek."
485
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And I'm like,
oh. Oh my. (laughs)
486
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- Um...
- It's like the first and last time
487
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I've ever flirted with someone.
488
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Yeah, but you knocked it
out of the park. That's a win.
489
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Yeah, (stammers) it just,
I felt...
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really, um,
connected to him really quickly.
491
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I had never connected
with anyone like that before.
492
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At first, when we first started
dating and we first started,
493
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you know, going into the
natural intimacies of dating,
494
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I had no idea about, uh,
495
00:25:06,243 --> 00:25:08,243
about her past in that way.
496
00:25:09,577 --> 00:25:12,535
It didn't really come up until,
497
00:25:12,619 --> 00:25:14,619
one day, um,
498
00:25:14,702 --> 00:25:16,327
we were just having some fun,
499
00:25:16,410 --> 00:25:19,619
and suddenly,
500
00:25:19,702 --> 00:25:20,993
uh, she tensed up.
501
00:25:21,077 --> 00:25:22,993
She just really tensed up.
502
00:25:23,077 --> 00:25:26,619
And then immediately just
started crying uncontrollably.
503
00:25:26,702 --> 00:25:29,243
And it turned out that I had,
504
00:25:29,327 --> 00:25:32,202
inadvertently,
triggered something.
505
00:25:32,285 --> 00:25:34,160
And a lot of it was
based on actually
506
00:25:34,243 --> 00:25:35,702
her lying down on her stomach
507
00:25:35,786 --> 00:25:38,118
because it's the same
position she was in in the attic.
508
00:25:38,202 --> 00:25:39,494
Yeah.
509
00:25:42,285 --> 00:25:45,619
I didn't think of myself
as an incest survivor.
510
00:25:46,535 --> 00:25:47,661
Um...
511
00:25:49,786 --> 00:25:51,410
I...
512
00:25:51,494 --> 00:25:53,952
you know, I, I heard about...
513
00:25:55,285 --> 00:25:58,827
you know, like,
rape in the news.
514
00:25:58,911 --> 00:26:01,702
And it was just
something that...
515
00:26:01,786 --> 00:26:04,869
happened to other people,
516
00:26:04,952 --> 00:26:08,452
and it was much worse
than what I'd been through.
517
00:26:08,535 --> 00:26:10,702
I really had no
right to complain
518
00:26:10,786 --> 00:26:14,911
about anything that had
happened to me because it wasn't...
519
00:26:14,993 --> 00:26:19,494
it didn't fall neatly into
a specific category, um.
520
00:26:21,369 --> 00:26:23,702
I just, I mean...
521
00:26:23,786 --> 00:26:26,494
(sighs) I'm like shaking,
talking about this.
522
00:26:27,494 --> 00:26:29,160
(exhales)
523
00:26:31,993 --> 00:26:33,661
(sighs) Um...
524
00:26:37,452 --> 00:26:40,118
Wow,
that was weird. I got like...
525
00:26:40,202 --> 00:26:43,494
shaky for a second. (exhales)
526
00:26:46,452 --> 00:26:48,327
Yeah, I just need like a second.
527
00:26:48,410 --> 00:26:51,494
♪ ♪
528
00:26:58,452 --> 00:27:01,577
My jaw is shaking. I'm sorry.
529
00:27:04,369 --> 00:27:07,911
I don't know. I don't know,
I'm just...
530
00:27:07,993 --> 00:27:09,702
- (shivering) -
Sean: I think it's just
531
00:27:09,786 --> 00:27:12,827
- a physical reaction to the whole thing.
- My jaw is chattering.
532
00:27:12,911 --> 00:27:15,869
(sighs) I'm not cold. I'm not cold,
I just...
533
00:27:16,577 --> 00:27:18,577
(shivering)
534
00:27:20,869 --> 00:27:23,535
(shivering)
535
00:27:28,869 --> 00:27:30,494
(inaudible)
536
00:27:32,577 --> 00:27:33,702
(kiss)
537
00:27:42,702 --> 00:27:44,118
Ronan: There
was a period of time
538
00:27:44,202 --> 00:27:45,661
in which my sister was saying,
539
00:27:45,744 --> 00:27:48,452
"Look, I have consistently
told this story for years,
540
00:27:48,535 --> 00:27:50,035
"and no one is listening.
541
00:27:50,118 --> 00:27:51,827
And I wanna go
public with it again."
542
00:27:51,911 --> 00:27:53,827
I said, "This is not worth it.
543
00:27:53,911 --> 00:27:56,535
"You are going to make
your entire life an identity
544
00:27:56,619 --> 00:27:59,494
about this one thing that
happened to you as a kid."
545
00:27:59,577 --> 00:28:01,535
I hadn't yet thoroughly
interviewed her
546
00:28:01,619 --> 00:28:04,827
or looked at the facts. I just
wanted to run away from this.
547
00:28:04,911 --> 00:28:07,077
By then,
I was a public figure in the media,
548
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,327
and all I wanted
was for it to go away.
549
00:28:09,410 --> 00:28:10,969
Reporter: Ronan Farrow
spent several years
550
00:28:10,993 --> 00:28:12,327
working at the State Department,
551
00:28:12,410 --> 00:28:14,619
including in the Office of
the Special Representative
552
00:28:14,702 --> 00:28:16,327
for Afghanistan and Pakistan.
553
00:28:16,410 --> 00:28:18,160
Ronan Farrow
joins us at the table.
554
00:28:18,243 --> 00:28:19,619
Ronan, good morning.
555
00:28:19,702 --> 00:28:22,452
- Such a pleasure to be here, guys.
- Great to have you.
556
00:28:22,535 --> 00:28:25,243
I spent years of
my life trying to
557
00:28:25,327 --> 00:28:27,202
build my own
career and reputation
558
00:28:27,285 --> 00:28:29,786
and do work that I cared
about and believed in,
559
00:28:29,869 --> 00:28:33,369
and wanting to avoid
questions about this.
560
00:28:33,452 --> 00:28:36,202
She and I had knock-down,
drag-out fights
561
00:28:36,285 --> 00:28:37,869
where I essentially
told her to shut up.
562
00:28:37,952 --> 00:28:40,869
Where I said,
"We're just clearing 20 years out,"
563
00:28:40,952 --> 00:28:42,869
or whatever it
was at that point.
564
00:28:42,952 --> 00:28:45,035
"For God's sake,
just leave it behind."
565
00:28:45,118 --> 00:28:47,327
He asked me,
point blank for the first time,
566
00:28:47,410 --> 00:28:50,535
he said, "What,
what happened to you?"
567
00:28:50,619 --> 00:28:53,744
And he was obviously very, um,
568
00:28:53,827 --> 00:28:55,535
he was very sensitive
about it. He's like,
569
00:28:55,619 --> 00:28:57,869
"You don't have to tell
me if you don't want to."
570
00:28:57,952 --> 00:29:00,661
But, um, he, he asked me and...
571
00:29:01,869 --> 00:29:04,577
and so I shared it with him.
572
00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:07,827
The whole... everything.
573
00:29:08,327 --> 00:29:10,744
And, um...
574
00:29:10,827 --> 00:29:14,619
after I was done,
there was a long silence, and...
575
00:29:16,202 --> 00:29:19,577
he just started crying.
576
00:29:19,661 --> 00:29:22,661
She was incredibly brave about saying,
"No.
577
00:29:22,744 --> 00:29:25,577
"This is the truth. I have
never changed my story.
578
00:29:25,661 --> 00:29:27,243
"There is evidence on my side.
579
00:29:27,327 --> 00:29:30,410
If you actually read these court documents,
you'll see that."
580
00:29:30,494 --> 00:29:32,661
And I did, for the first time,
as an adult,
581
00:29:32,744 --> 00:29:35,202
as a journalist, as an attorney.
582
00:29:35,285 --> 00:29:39,410
I read the court documents
and my reaction was,
583
00:29:39,494 --> 00:29:41,327
well,
holy shit. I've been turning away
584
00:29:41,410 --> 00:29:43,619
from a real miscarriage
of justice here.
585
00:29:44,535 --> 00:29:45,952
(music playing)
586
00:29:46,035 --> 00:29:50,035
Announcer: And now,
ladies and gentlemen, Diane Keaton.
587
00:29:50,118 --> 00:29:53,202
(applause, cheering)
588
00:29:55,285 --> 00:29:58,952
Thank you. Thank you very
much. Thank you. Thank you.
589
00:29:59,035 --> 00:30:00,535
(cheering)
590
00:30:00,619 --> 00:30:04,160
Well,
I think it's safe to say that
591
00:30:04,243 --> 00:30:06,285
Woody Allen is an anomaly.
592
00:30:06,369 --> 00:30:09,786
He's made 74 movies in 48 years.
593
00:30:09,869 --> 00:30:12,494
He's directed them,
he's starred in them,
594
00:30:12,577 --> 00:30:16,369
he's produced them, and,
of course, he's written them.
595
00:30:16,452 --> 00:30:19,118
He's written all of them,
every one.
596
00:30:19,202 --> 00:30:22,243
Dylan: I wasn't even
watching the Golden Globes,
597
00:30:22,327 --> 00:30:24,452
and all of a sudden,
my phone started blowing up,
598
00:30:24,535 --> 00:30:25,993
and people were saying,
599
00:30:26,077 --> 00:30:30,077
"I'm so sorry. You shouldn't
have to go through this."
600
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,285
And then I saw what
they were talking about.
601
00:30:33,369 --> 00:30:37,619
The feature, for me anyway,
that sets Woody's writing apart
602
00:30:37,702 --> 00:30:40,619
are the voices of four decades
603
00:30:40,702 --> 00:30:42,827
of unforgettable
female characters,
604
00:30:42,911 --> 00:30:46,077
- starting with la-dee-da Annie Hall...
- Dylan: And, um...
605
00:30:49,619 --> 00:30:51,243
I had a panic attack,
606
00:30:52,369 --> 00:30:54,327
and I felt
607
00:30:54,410 --> 00:30:57,786
so... small.
608
00:30:57,869 --> 00:31:01,494
A genius who takes chances
and never compromises his vision.
609
00:31:01,577 --> 00:31:04,952
A filmmaker who fills his
movies with wry observation,
610
00:31:05,035 --> 00:31:06,661
frequently painful truth,
611
00:31:06,744 --> 00:31:10,077
and some of the best
one-liners in history.
612
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,077
Ronan: As I'm watching this,
I was
613
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,786
reluctantly,
grudgingly realizing that
614
00:31:14,869 --> 00:31:17,160
I, as a public person by then,
615
00:31:17,243 --> 00:31:18,869
had to make a decision about
616
00:31:18,952 --> 00:31:20,702
whether I was gonna
turn away from this.
617
00:31:20,786 --> 00:31:22,577
And so, I tweeted about it
618
00:31:22,661 --> 00:31:25,911
in a much more direct
way than I had before.
619
00:31:32,494 --> 00:31:34,243
Dylan: At some
point in the evening,
620
00:31:34,327 --> 00:31:36,661
my husband came in, and he said,
621
00:31:36,744 --> 00:31:41,702
"You know,
Ronan tweeted this really cool thing."
622
00:31:41,786 --> 00:31:43,327
It was...
623
00:31:43,410 --> 00:31:46,160
kind of a light bulb
moment because...
624
00:31:47,993 --> 00:31:51,369
(sighs) it felt like...
625
00:31:51,452 --> 00:31:54,577
wow,
somebody's... Somebody's talking about it.
626
00:31:54,661 --> 00:31:57,619
I remember her
calling me and crying.
627
00:31:57,702 --> 00:32:00,202
And saying that it just
meant so much to her that,
628
00:32:00,285 --> 00:32:03,077
after we had had all these fights
where I had told her to shut up,
629
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,827
that someone had
finally acknowledged her.
630
00:32:08,619 --> 00:32:11,410
Dylan: That was sort of the
watershed moment for me
631
00:32:11,494 --> 00:32:12,869
where I felt like
632
00:32:12,952 --> 00:32:17,410
if Ronan is talking about it,
maybe I can talk about it, too.
633
00:32:17,494 --> 00:32:19,911
But the doctor I was
seeing at the time
634
00:32:19,993 --> 00:32:23,410
said, you know, like,
"If you go into this,
635
00:32:23,494 --> 00:32:25,160
"you are going to undo
636
00:32:25,243 --> 00:32:29,494
all of the hard work that
you've done to heal yourself."
637
00:32:29,577 --> 00:32:33,993
And my first thought was
there has been no healing.
638
00:32:34,077 --> 00:32:37,452
♪ ♪
639
00:32:37,535 --> 00:32:40,327
So, I wrote this essay,
640
00:32:40,410 --> 00:32:43,243
and I sent it to
641
00:32:43,327 --> 00:32:45,577
"The New York Times" and
the "LA Times" opinion section.
642
00:32:46,744 --> 00:32:48,827
She went very far down
643
00:32:48,911 --> 00:32:52,160
the editorial process with a
major national newspaper,
644
00:32:52,243 --> 00:32:56,035
which then resulted
in the editor calling me,
645
00:32:56,118 --> 00:32:57,744
as a fellow journalist,
and saying,
646
00:32:57,827 --> 00:32:59,952
"We can't run this.
We have to cancel this
647
00:33:00,035 --> 00:33:03,035
even though we feel
like it checks out."
648
00:33:03,118 --> 00:33:06,911
And then,
I reached out to Nick Kristof.
649
00:33:06,993 --> 00:33:11,786
I had known Mia and
Ronan Farrow for years.
650
00:33:11,869 --> 00:33:16,118
We were engaged
in activities on Darfur.
651
00:33:16,202 --> 00:33:21,494
Ronan told me that
Dylan had written an essay,
652
00:33:21,577 --> 00:33:24,577
and might I be able to help.
653
00:33:25,869 --> 00:33:29,410
I found her essay heartbreaking,
654
00:33:29,494 --> 00:33:32,494
and, and just devastating,
655
00:33:32,577 --> 00:33:35,243
and I thought it
should have an outlet.
656
00:33:35,327 --> 00:33:37,869
There were some raised
eyebrows at the "Times."
657
00:33:37,952 --> 00:33:40,160
You know,
is it really appropriate for a columnist
658
00:33:40,243 --> 00:33:43,160
to use his blog to publish
something that the "Times"
659
00:33:43,243 --> 00:33:46,410
itself does not wanna
publish on the Op-Ed page?
660
00:33:46,494 --> 00:33:48,327
Is it appropriate in particular
661
00:33:48,410 --> 00:33:51,160
when that columnist
is a family friend?
662
00:33:51,243 --> 00:33:52,952
♪ ♪
663
00:33:53,035 --> 00:33:56,535
I also think that
there was still
664
00:33:56,619 --> 00:33:59,327
a culture at that point of
665
00:33:59,410 --> 00:34:03,118
being careful about
giving voice to accusations
666
00:34:03,202 --> 00:34:06,535
and protecting powerful men.
667
00:34:06,619 --> 00:34:08,369
But at the end of the day,
668
00:34:08,452 --> 00:34:11,369
Dylan had written
this extraordinary piece
669
00:34:11,452 --> 00:34:16,869
from the heart,
and how could we not
670
00:34:16,952 --> 00:34:19,285
give the person
at the center of this
671
00:34:19,369 --> 00:34:22,369
a chance to give her
account of something
672
00:34:22,452 --> 00:34:25,243
everybody else in America
had already talked about?
673
00:34:29,410 --> 00:34:31,494
♪ ♪
674
00:34:35,661 --> 00:34:38,452
Dylan: What's your
favorite Woody Allen movie?
675
00:34:41,202 --> 00:34:44,118
Before you answer,
you should know,
676
00:34:44,202 --> 00:34:45,869
when I was 7 years old,
677
00:34:45,952 --> 00:34:48,243
Woody Allen took me by the hand
678
00:34:48,327 --> 00:34:51,494
and lead me into a
dim closet-like attic.
679
00:34:53,243 --> 00:34:54,911
He told me to lay on my stomach
680
00:34:54,993 --> 00:34:57,661
and play with my
brother's electric train set.
681
00:34:58,744 --> 00:35:01,452
Then, he sexually assaulted me.
682
00:35:04,661 --> 00:35:06,285
For as long as I could remember,
683
00:35:06,369 --> 00:35:10,702
my father had been doing
things to me that I didn't like.
684
00:35:10,786 --> 00:35:14,993
I didn't like it when he would
stick his thumb in my mouth.
685
00:35:15,077 --> 00:35:17,243
I didn't like it when he
would place his head
686
00:35:17,327 --> 00:35:21,410
in my naked lap and
breathe in and breathe out.
687
00:35:21,494 --> 00:35:23,661
I would hide under the beds
688
00:35:23,744 --> 00:35:26,702
or lock myself in the bathroom
to avoid these encounters.
689
00:35:28,619 --> 00:35:30,661
But he always found me.
690
00:35:30,744 --> 00:35:33,494
♪ ♪
691
00:35:33,577 --> 00:35:37,535
I thought this was how fathers
doted on their daughters.
692
00:35:41,243 --> 00:35:45,452
But what he did to me
in the attic felt different.
693
00:35:45,535 --> 00:35:48,327
I couldn't keep
the secret anymore.
694
00:35:50,369 --> 00:35:52,911
Others are still scared,
vulnerable,
695
00:35:52,993 --> 00:35:56,327
and struggling for the
courage to tell the truth.
696
00:35:57,911 --> 00:36:01,369
The message that Hollywood
sends matters for them.
697
00:36:04,118 --> 00:36:06,160
So,
imagine your 7-year-old daughter
698
00:36:06,243 --> 00:36:08,869
being led into an
attic by Woody Allen.
699
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,535
Imagine she spends
a lifetime stricken
700
00:36:12,619 --> 00:36:14,911
with nausea at the
mention of his name.
701
00:36:16,577 --> 00:36:20,118
Imagine a world that
celebrates her tormentor.
702
00:36:22,452 --> 00:36:25,619
Now,
what's your favorite Woody Allen movie?
703
00:36:25,702 --> 00:36:28,786
♪ ♪
704
00:36:36,243 --> 00:36:42,494
I had gone for two decades
feeling like I was alone in this.
705
00:36:42,577 --> 00:36:46,160
And one of the first
things that happened
706
00:36:46,243 --> 00:36:49,535
within days of the
essay being released
707
00:36:49,619 --> 00:36:54,160
is that so many separate people
708
00:36:54,243 --> 00:36:59,577
from my life contacted me...
709
00:36:59,661 --> 00:37:03,410
and, you know,
talked about what happened to them.
710
00:37:03,494 --> 00:37:05,494
I think the gift that
they didn't realize
711
00:37:05,577 --> 00:37:07,577
they were giving me was that,
712
00:37:07,661 --> 00:37:09,702
you know,
I was... I wasn't alone,
713
00:37:09,786 --> 00:37:14,202
or I wasn't as alone as I thought I was,
and...
714
00:37:14,285 --> 00:37:17,118
part of that,
there was something very...
715
00:37:18,869 --> 00:37:24,661
reassuring, but also,
you know, devastating.
716
00:37:26,202 --> 00:37:31,369
Because now,
I know that so many people in my life
717
00:37:31,452 --> 00:37:34,494
were suffering silently
the same way I was.
718
00:37:34,577 --> 00:37:38,327
♪ ♪
719
00:37:38,410 --> 00:37:40,118
Woody: Imagine my sadness
720
00:37:40,202 --> 00:37:43,202
when not only did
Dylan not want to see me,
721
00:37:43,285 --> 00:37:46,285
but instead wrote an open letter
722
00:37:46,369 --> 00:37:48,202
saying I molested her.
723
00:37:48,285 --> 00:37:50,702
The openness is
important as the strategy
724
00:37:50,786 --> 00:37:53,577
behind going public is
not to resolve anything,
725
00:37:53,661 --> 00:37:56,535
but to smear me,
her mother's goal.
726
00:38:00,535 --> 00:38:03,702
(insects chirping)
727
00:38:03,786 --> 00:38:06,160
Mia: I have so, so much respect
728
00:38:06,243 --> 00:38:08,661
for Dylan, of who she is,
729
00:38:08,744 --> 00:38:11,952
what she had to do,
and how she did it.
730
00:38:12,035 --> 00:38:15,535
To see Dylan,
you know, claim herself,
731
00:38:15,619 --> 00:38:18,702
her whole self, um...
732
00:38:18,786 --> 00:38:21,285
And that meant going
back and getting little Dylan
733
00:38:21,369 --> 00:38:24,285
and making her a part of this.
734
00:38:24,369 --> 00:38:27,993
I just told her how
proud I was of her.
735
00:38:28,077 --> 00:38:29,786
But inside, I just crumple up
736
00:38:29,869 --> 00:38:32,410
because I know,
I know he's gonna attack me.
737
00:38:33,702 --> 00:38:37,535
'Cause he can't really,
you know, how can he...
738
00:38:37,619 --> 00:38:40,619
how can you attack
her? She was a child.
739
00:38:40,702 --> 00:38:43,952
So you can only attack me.
740
00:38:44,035 --> 00:38:46,118
Woody: I'd always hoped
when Dylan grew up,
741
00:38:46,202 --> 00:38:49,452
she would somehow realize
how her mother had used her,
742
00:38:49,535 --> 00:38:52,702
taking full advantage of
her age and vulnerability
743
00:38:52,786 --> 00:38:54,661
to deprive her of her father,
744
00:38:54,744 --> 00:38:58,993
knowing it was the surest
vengeance toward me.
745
00:38:59,077 --> 00:39:01,035
Reporter 1: Film director
Woody Allen promises
746
00:39:01,118 --> 00:39:03,786
to fight renewed allegations
of child molestation.
747
00:39:03,869 --> 00:39:06,160
Reporter 2: The "Times"
published his lengthy rebuttal,
748
00:39:06,243 --> 00:39:07,993
blasting the
allegations as false,
749
00:39:08,077 --> 00:39:10,202
and blaming former
girlfriend Mia Farrow
750
00:39:10,285 --> 00:39:11,619
for manipulating Dylan.
751
00:39:11,702 --> 00:39:14,077
"I love her,"
he writes of his daughter.
752
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,661
"And hope one day,
she will grasp
753
00:39:15,744 --> 00:39:18,661
"how she has been exploited
by a mother more interested in
754
00:39:18,744 --> 00:39:21,827
her own festering anger than
her daughter's well-being."
755
00:39:21,911 --> 00:39:24,786
Reporter 3: He writes,
"Not that I doubt Dylan hasn't come
756
00:39:24,869 --> 00:39:27,160
"to believe she's been molested,
but if,
757
00:39:27,243 --> 00:39:29,661
"from the age of 7,
a vulnerable child is taught
758
00:39:29,744 --> 00:39:31,952
"by a strong mother
to hate her father,
759
00:39:32,035 --> 00:39:36,077
the image of me Mia wanted
to establish had taken root."
760
00:39:38,535 --> 00:39:41,410
Dylan: It was very difficult
761
00:39:41,494 --> 00:39:45,035
to have come forward
with something so...
762
00:39:45,118 --> 00:39:46,869
deeply personal.
763
00:39:46,952 --> 00:39:50,243
And being told that
764
00:39:50,327 --> 00:39:52,744
not only are
765
00:39:52,827 --> 00:39:56,577
the things you're
saying not true,
766
00:39:56,661 --> 00:39:58,702
but that you don't have
767
00:39:58,786 --> 00:40:02,452
the authority to speak
about your own experiences.
768
00:40:02,535 --> 00:40:04,160
Welcome back. Tonight,
another child
769
00:40:04,243 --> 00:40:05,762
of Mia Farrow and Woody
Allen is speaking out
770
00:40:05,786 --> 00:40:08,077
in defense of Woody
Allen. Moses is...
771
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,911
Moses Farrow's interview is in
the new issue of "People" magazine.
772
00:40:10,993 --> 00:40:13,118
He says his sister Dylan's
renewed allegations
773
00:40:13,202 --> 00:40:16,661
that Allen molested her when
she was 7 are flat-out made up.
774
00:40:17,827 --> 00:40:19,661
Dylan: I got a call from
775
00:40:19,744 --> 00:40:22,285
my mom saying that
776
00:40:22,369 --> 00:40:25,786
there was a reporter
from "People" magazine
777
00:40:25,869 --> 00:40:27,410
who was talking to Moses,
778
00:40:27,494 --> 00:40:31,327
and he was accusing me
of lying about my abuse,
779
00:40:31,410 --> 00:40:36,035
and accusing my
mom of abusing him.
780
00:40:36,118 --> 00:40:38,243
Moses goes on to say that,
during his childhood,
781
00:40:38,327 --> 00:40:40,911
he was physically
harmed. Really horrible...
782
00:40:40,993 --> 00:40:44,118
- Anderson Cooper: Physically harmed by?
- By Mia. By Mia.
783
00:40:44,202 --> 00:40:47,577
Uh, he,
he really goes to great lengths
784
00:40:47,661 --> 00:40:50,077
to paint a portrait of
his childhood that was
785
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,327
nothing short of horrific.
786
00:40:53,827 --> 00:40:56,369
Fletcher: I shared a
bedroom with Moses.
787
00:40:58,702 --> 00:41:01,035
I never saw anybody
dragged down stairs.
788
00:41:01,118 --> 00:41:06,160
I never saw anybody
hit or locked in closets.
789
00:41:10,369 --> 00:41:12,535
Daisy: I had no idea
why he would do this.
790
00:41:12,619 --> 00:41:16,619
He's suddenly speaking ill
of my family and my mom.
791
00:41:16,702 --> 00:41:19,035
There was the typical,
you know, grounding, yelling,
792
00:41:19,118 --> 00:41:22,202
when we did something wrong,
but nothing abusive.
793
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,786
Daisy: No.
794
00:41:24,869 --> 00:41:28,077
The things he accuses
her of are just ludicrous.
795
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,952
I absolutely would have
remembered if she locked us in barns
796
00:41:31,035 --> 00:41:34,410
and, you know,
smacked us and screamed at us.
797
00:41:34,494 --> 00:41:36,452
I saw his rapport
with my mother.
798
00:41:36,535 --> 00:41:38,160
My mom was devoted to Moses.
799
00:41:38,243 --> 00:41:40,118
She was kind and gentle to him.
800
00:41:40,202 --> 00:41:43,993
And all through my childhood
and much of my adult life,
801
00:41:44,077 --> 00:41:46,786
Moses stood by my
sister and my mother.
802
00:41:46,869 --> 00:41:48,952
♪ ♪
803
00:42:03,077 --> 00:42:05,452
He told numerous
people in his life,
804
00:42:05,535 --> 00:42:08,869
including his ex-wife,
that he believed Dylan.
805
00:42:08,952 --> 00:42:11,035
We love and miss Moses,
806
00:42:11,118 --> 00:42:14,535
and it's been
really devastating.
807
00:42:14,619 --> 00:42:17,327
Dylan: When I
received that phone call,
808
00:42:17,410 --> 00:42:19,869
I just remember
809
00:42:19,952 --> 00:42:22,118
bursting into tears.
810
00:42:24,410 --> 00:42:25,911
Like...
811
00:42:26,786 --> 00:42:27,952
(sighs)
812
00:42:29,577 --> 00:42:32,202
It was like I'd been told that
813
00:42:32,285 --> 00:42:35,035
this person that I knew
814
00:42:35,118 --> 00:42:38,452
and loved and trusted was gone!
815
00:42:41,077 --> 00:42:42,577
He says the incident in question
816
00:42:42,661 --> 00:42:44,202
that Dylan outlined
in her letter,
817
00:42:44,285 --> 00:42:47,035
the incident in the
attic with the train set,
818
00:42:47,118 --> 00:42:48,744
couldn't have happened
by his own memory,
819
00:42:48,827 --> 00:42:51,160
and he himself was a child at the time,
by his own memory,
820
00:42:51,243 --> 00:42:54,243
he says it couldn't have
happened because on that day,
821
00:42:54,327 --> 00:42:57,369
they were all in public rooms,
and said there's simply no way
822
00:42:57,452 --> 00:42:59,035
it could've happened.
823
00:42:59,118 --> 00:43:02,285
♪ ♪
824
00:44:23,661 --> 00:44:26,327
Woody: New to the story was a fresh,
creative touch,
825
00:44:26,410 --> 00:44:28,327
something that never
came up a single time
826
00:44:28,410 --> 00:44:30,702
during all the months
of investigation
827
00:44:30,786 --> 00:44:33,202
in any of Dylan's
numerous interviews.
828
00:44:33,285 --> 00:44:36,452
That is,
Dylan suddenly claiming she was molested
829
00:44:36,535 --> 00:44:39,369
while she stared at the
electric trains in the attic
830
00:44:39,452 --> 00:44:41,243
going round and round.
831
00:45:23,619 --> 00:45:25,619
I was now the
real-life protagonist
832
00:45:25,702 --> 00:45:29,035
of a drama about an innocent
person wrongly accused.
833
00:45:29,118 --> 00:45:32,535
Of course, unlike Hollywood,
no Jimmy Stewart or Henry Fonda
834
00:45:32,619 --> 00:45:35,786
emerged suddenly to take
my case and right the wrongs.
835
00:45:35,869 --> 00:45:38,035
But in real life, some rose
836
00:45:38,118 --> 00:45:40,158
and were fearless enough
to take a principled stand.
837
00:45:40,202 --> 00:45:42,869
It's controversial. You
accepted an award recently
838
00:45:42,952 --> 00:45:44,011
- for Woody Allen. - Uh-huh.
839
00:45:44,035 --> 00:45:46,452
- Did you have any trepidations?
- No!
840
00:45:46,535 --> 00:45:47,895
- None whatsoever?
- Of course not.
841
00:45:47,952 --> 00:45:49,637
I mean,
you have to look at my life this way.
842
00:45:49,661 --> 00:45:52,369
I mean,
he gave me my opportunity to be here
843
00:45:52,452 --> 00:45:54,869
and talk to you. It's all
because of Woody Allen.
844
00:45:54,952 --> 00:45:57,243
Woody: Alec Baldwin
was one of the very few
845
00:45:57,327 --> 00:45:59,619
with the courage
to speak out bravely
846
00:45:59,702 --> 00:46:01,327
and clearly on my behalf.
847
00:46:01,410 --> 00:46:03,219
Reporter: On Sunday,
Alec Baldwin continued to defend
848
00:46:03,243 --> 00:46:05,285
embattled director Woody
Allen who has been accused
849
00:46:05,369 --> 00:46:08,327
of sexual abuse by adopted
daughter Dylan Farrow.
850
00:46:08,410 --> 00:46:10,535
Reporter 2: Javier
Bardem said he has doubts
851
00:46:10,619 --> 00:46:12,369
about the
longstanding allegations
852
00:46:12,452 --> 00:46:14,619
of sexual misconduct
against the filmmaker.
853
00:46:14,702 --> 00:46:16,662
Reporter 3: Actor Adrien
Brody recently weighed in
854
00:46:16,744 --> 00:46:19,077
on the sexual assault
allegation against filmmakers
855
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,160
Woody Allen and Roman Polanski.
856
00:46:21,243 --> 00:46:25,243
Adrien Brody: People make
mistakes in lives and, and, uh...
857
00:46:25,327 --> 00:46:27,047
- you know.
- Jenny McCarthy: Gotta forgive.
858
00:46:27,077 --> 00:46:29,494
Adrien: Well, it's, I...
859
00:46:30,410 --> 00:46:32,827
It's not for me to delve into.
860
00:46:32,911 --> 00:46:35,202
It's not really my place.
861
00:46:35,285 --> 00:46:36,911
I think that's a family issue,
862
00:46:36,993 --> 00:46:40,202
and I hope they can,
they can resolve it. I really do.
863
00:46:40,285 --> 00:46:42,678
Lili Loofbourow: So there seemed
to be not a coordinated effort exactly,
864
00:46:42,702 --> 00:46:45,452
but a series of
commenters defending him
865
00:46:45,535 --> 00:46:47,135
in a way that I found
kind of perplexing,
866
00:46:47,202 --> 00:46:50,869
and it seemed to be repeating
a lot of the same talking points.
867
00:46:50,952 --> 00:46:53,827
There is a very strong fact
868
00:46:53,911 --> 00:46:56,577
in Woody's column,
and that is this.
869
00:46:56,661 --> 00:46:59,869
That a team of experts
concluded back then
870
00:46:59,952 --> 00:47:01,911
that Dylan was not abused.
871
00:47:01,993 --> 00:47:04,327
Yale-New Haven
determined after six months,
872
00:47:04,410 --> 00:47:06,661
where everybody was interviewed,
that it didn't happen.
873
00:47:06,744 --> 00:47:09,261
- So you believe she believes it because this idea was...
- I believe that.
874
00:47:09,285 --> 00:47:13,202
Ronan: The fact the Yale-New
Haven report is still cited is
875
00:47:13,285 --> 00:47:15,952
evidence of just
how powerful it is
876
00:47:16,035 --> 00:47:17,869
when a PR machine
877
00:47:17,952 --> 00:47:21,369
plants an idea into
the public narrative.
878
00:47:21,452 --> 00:47:23,993
I, at the time,
was in the media and was getting
879
00:47:24,077 --> 00:47:28,202
the emails from Leslee Dart and
Woody Allen's powerful PR team.
880
00:47:28,285 --> 00:47:32,410
There were dozens of reporters from
major news outlets on those emails.
881
00:47:37,952 --> 00:47:40,118
She basically
positioned this as,
882
00:47:40,202 --> 00:47:43,452
here's this way you can attack
this young woman's credibility.
883
00:47:43,535 --> 00:47:47,410
Here's a validator you can put
on-air to say that she's brainwashed.
884
00:47:47,494 --> 00:47:50,285
When you have Leslee
Dart on your payroll,
885
00:47:50,369 --> 00:47:51,827
that is someone who can say
886
00:47:51,952 --> 00:47:53,553
you better print this,
or I'm gonna withhold
887
00:47:53,577 --> 00:47:56,494
my clients from
you in the future.
888
00:47:56,577 --> 00:47:58,911
Alissa Wilkinson:
Leslee Dart reps a lot of
889
00:47:58,993 --> 00:48:01,035
really big,
important celebrities.
890
00:48:01,118 --> 00:48:02,869
She's known for
being one of the people
891
00:48:02,952 --> 00:48:05,993
who might blackball a
journalist for covering something
892
00:48:06,077 --> 00:48:07,452
in a way she didn't like,
893
00:48:07,535 --> 00:48:10,911
which bears itself out when
Ronan himself wrote an article
894
00:48:10,993 --> 00:48:13,577
for the "Hollywood
Reporter" about his father.
895
00:48:13,661 --> 00:48:16,160
Leslee Dart banned
the "Hollywood Reporter"
896
00:48:16,243 --> 00:48:17,661
from coming to the luncheon
897
00:48:17,744 --> 00:48:21,993
that was celebrating the
release of Allen's new movie.
898
00:48:22,077 --> 00:48:24,428
Reporter: It does tell us a bit of
how Hollywood works though, right?
899
00:48:24,452 --> 00:48:26,178
- That these publicists are very powerful.
- Yes.
900
00:48:26,202 --> 00:48:28,202
They're out there
to create a narrative
901
00:48:28,285 --> 00:48:30,285
around their influence,
around their client.
902
00:48:30,369 --> 00:48:33,035
Ronan: There is a culture of
903
00:48:33,118 --> 00:48:35,410
transactional access journalism,
904
00:48:35,494 --> 00:48:37,744
where powerful PR people
905
00:48:37,827 --> 00:48:40,327
trade stories and plant stories
906
00:48:40,410 --> 00:48:42,744
and put into the
public consciousness
907
00:48:42,827 --> 00:48:44,827
whatever their clients want.
908
00:48:44,911 --> 00:48:48,035
Is it a story? Is it a fantasy?
909
00:48:48,118 --> 00:48:50,160
Reporter: Dylan Farrow
had likely been coached.
910
00:48:50,243 --> 00:48:52,577
- She had been coached.
- Cooper: Had likely been coached.
911
00:48:52,661 --> 00:48:55,035
Dylan may have been
affected by a product of
912
00:48:55,118 --> 00:48:57,993
- parental alienation, the ugliness between the spouses.
- Yes.
913
00:48:58,077 --> 00:49:01,077
There have been cases
of parental alienation,
914
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,494
where one parent
wants to turn the child
915
00:49:03,577 --> 00:49:05,243
against the other parent,
916
00:49:05,327 --> 00:49:07,744
and therefore may
begin coaching them
917
00:49:07,827 --> 00:49:12,160
as to a sexual abuse that
perhaps did not happen.
918
00:49:12,243 --> 00:49:15,327
♪ ♪
919
00:49:22,911 --> 00:49:24,470
John EB Myers:
Parental alienation spread
920
00:49:24,494 --> 00:49:27,494
like wildfire across
the United States.
921
00:49:27,577 --> 00:49:30,035
I'm in family
court all the time.
922
00:49:30,118 --> 00:49:33,202
I read about this
in the case law,
923
00:49:33,285 --> 00:49:35,285
and it's absolutely
ubiquitous that
924
00:49:35,369 --> 00:49:36,952
that claim will be
made in family court.
925
00:49:37,035 --> 00:49:40,702
It's made almost every day in
every state across the country.
926
00:49:42,702 --> 00:49:44,327
It got a hold in
the court system
927
00:49:44,410 --> 00:49:46,952
because it was easier
to blame a mother
928
00:49:47,035 --> 00:49:50,035
than to blame a father
for being an abuser.
929
00:49:50,118 --> 00:49:52,452
It was way more believable
930
00:49:52,535 --> 00:49:55,952
that a mother can be
hysterical and angry and upset
931
00:49:56,035 --> 00:49:58,744
than a father
could be an abuser.
932
00:50:11,410 --> 00:50:14,035
Not only do courts not
believe abuse when it's alleged
933
00:50:14,118 --> 00:50:15,744
by mothers against fathers,
934
00:50:15,827 --> 00:50:18,577
women lose custody for
alleging abuse against fathers,
935
00:50:18,661 --> 00:50:20,410
and they particularly
lose custody
936
00:50:20,494 --> 00:50:23,786
when they allege child sexual
abuse and child physical abuse.
937
00:50:23,869 --> 00:50:26,160
Reporter: Concerned parents
protested this very issue
938
00:50:26,243 --> 00:50:28,243
recently in downtown LA.
939
00:50:28,327 --> 00:50:30,369
- Man: What do we want?
- Crowd: Children protected!
940
00:50:30,452 --> 00:50:32,369
- Man: When do we want it?
- Crowd: Now!
941
00:50:32,452 --> 00:50:34,494
We reported abuse,
and I lost my grandchild.
942
00:50:34,577 --> 00:50:37,077
I reported abuse
and lost my son.
943
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,202
I reported abuse
and lost custody.
944
00:50:39,285 --> 00:50:42,410
The culture has to understand
the family courts have been
945
00:50:42,494 --> 00:50:44,535
not only not protecting,
but really
946
00:50:44,619 --> 00:50:46,494
sending children to abuse.
947
00:51:05,952 --> 00:51:08,327
Joyanna Silberg: These
children never recover.
948
00:51:08,410 --> 00:51:11,369
They have an increased
rate of suicide attempts.
949
00:51:11,452 --> 00:51:14,827
They have severe
mental health difficulties.
950
00:51:14,911 --> 00:51:17,535
They have
dissociative disorders.
951
00:51:17,619 --> 00:51:19,744
For so many victims of incest,
952
00:51:19,827 --> 00:51:22,661
the longterm impact
is devastating.
953
00:51:26,535 --> 00:51:28,911
(birds chirping)
954
00:51:28,993 --> 00:51:33,118
Dylan: It feels isolating to
be a survivor of sexual abuse.
955
00:51:35,202 --> 00:51:37,952
It doesn't go
away. It doesn't...
956
00:51:38,035 --> 00:51:40,327
It doesn't vanish overnight.
957
00:51:40,410 --> 00:51:42,535
It's a lifelong...
958
00:51:43,661 --> 00:51:44,786
sentence.
959
00:51:44,869 --> 00:51:46,410
(birds chirping)
960
00:51:46,494 --> 00:51:49,744
And this is not just my story.
961
00:51:49,827 --> 00:51:53,577
There are still so many
of us out there who
962
00:51:53,661 --> 00:51:59,369
feel unseen, who feel unheard,
who feel disbelieved.
963
00:51:59,452 --> 00:52:02,118
It's the story of everyone
964
00:52:02,202 --> 00:52:05,827
who has come up
against a powerful figure,
965
00:52:05,911 --> 00:52:08,327
and had to hold
their own against
966
00:52:08,410 --> 00:52:10,619
ridiculous odds.
967
00:52:10,702 --> 00:52:12,494
♪ ♪
968
00:52:12,577 --> 00:52:15,035
Reporter 1: Allegations
of sexual assault made by
969
00:52:15,118 --> 00:52:17,577
a dozen actresses
against Harvey Weinstein
970
00:52:17,661 --> 00:52:20,243
appeared online
in early October.
971
00:52:20,327 --> 00:52:22,952
Brian Stelter: And joining us at the table,
Ronan Farrow,
972
00:52:23,035 --> 00:52:24,786
who investigated
Weinstein for 10 months
973
00:52:24,869 --> 00:52:27,202
and published this
chilling "New Yorker" story
974
00:52:27,285 --> 00:52:29,202
about alleged
assaults and rapes.
975
00:52:29,285 --> 00:52:31,786
We are in this moment where
women are coming forward
976
00:52:31,869 --> 00:52:34,494
- one after another,
in industry after industry, -Yeah.
977
00:52:34,577 --> 00:52:36,786
Telling the hardest
stories of a lifetime.
978
00:52:36,869 --> 00:52:39,369
Reporter 2: As he interviewed
women making accusations,
979
00:52:39,452 --> 00:52:42,035
Dylan was on his mind.
980
00:52:42,118 --> 00:52:45,160
She made a very
brave choice to go public
981
00:52:45,243 --> 00:52:46,843
because she thought
it could help others.
982
00:52:46,911 --> 00:52:49,661
Gayle King: Dylan Farrow
says she's speaking up again
983
00:52:49,744 --> 00:52:51,160
to have her voice included
984
00:52:51,243 --> 00:52:53,702
in the Time's Up and
MeToo conversations.
985
00:52:53,786 --> 00:52:57,494
Dylan: With so much
silence being broken,
986
00:52:57,577 --> 00:53:01,452
it was important to
add my story to theirs.
987
00:53:01,535 --> 00:53:03,869
Gayle: Woody Allen
was never charged
988
00:53:03,952 --> 00:53:06,243
with a crime in this case.
989
00:53:06,327 --> 00:53:08,869
Man: But, as we know,
there was probable cause
990
00:53:08,952 --> 00:53:11,661
determined by the Connecticut
State's Attorney in '93,
991
00:53:11,744 --> 00:53:13,744
but he didn't go
through with prosecution.
992
00:53:13,827 --> 00:53:15,494
Gayle: Frank Maco
thought Dylan was
993
00:53:15,577 --> 00:53:18,077
too fragile to face
a celebrity trial.
994
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,077
(birds chirping)
995
00:53:25,577 --> 00:53:29,577
Dylan: I wish that I had
testified or that I had...
996
00:53:29,661 --> 00:53:32,202
just been put up there anyway.
997
00:53:32,285 --> 00:53:34,869
And I don't wish that
998
00:53:34,952 --> 00:53:37,619
Frank Maco had
disregarded my mental health,
999
00:53:37,702 --> 00:53:40,993
but I wish that I
had been stronger.
1000
00:53:41,077 --> 00:53:46,243
That I hadn't crumpled so much
under the... under the pressure.
1001
00:53:48,243 --> 00:53:51,452
I, to this day, feel like...
1002
00:53:52,786 --> 00:53:55,285
I was given an
opportunity to be brave,
1003
00:53:56,077 --> 00:53:57,410
and I turned it down.
1004
00:54:05,452 --> 00:54:08,452
I mean,
when I made my decision back in
1005
00:54:08,535 --> 00:54:10,827
1993...
1006
00:54:10,911 --> 00:54:13,243
uh, not to prosecute,
1007
00:54:13,327 --> 00:54:15,035
I told your mom at that time
1008
00:54:15,118 --> 00:54:17,577
that if, at some point,
you wanted to find out
1009
00:54:17,661 --> 00:54:19,911
what I did, why I did it,
1010
00:54:19,993 --> 00:54:22,160
I would certainly meet with you
1011
00:54:22,243 --> 00:54:24,327
and answer whatever
questions you had.
1012
00:54:25,661 --> 00:54:28,077
My mom always
made it known to me
1013
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,285
that I had a lot to be
very thankful to you for.
1014
00:54:32,327 --> 00:54:35,202
That I'd been, you know, spared
1015
00:54:35,285 --> 00:54:37,869
the circus of a courtroom and...
1016
00:54:38,827 --> 00:54:41,911
all of that madness, and
1017
00:54:41,993 --> 00:54:43,702
probably trauma.
1018
00:54:43,786 --> 00:54:46,243
But a part of me really,
really wishes that
1019
00:54:46,327 --> 00:54:50,661
I could've done it and that I
could've had my day in court.
1020
00:54:54,202 --> 00:54:57,911
Frank: You have every right to
have whatever feelings you have.
1021
00:54:59,035 --> 00:55:01,118
But I can tell you right now,
1022
00:55:01,202 --> 00:55:03,535
my fault because
there is never a chance
1023
00:55:03,619 --> 00:55:06,243
that I would do that to you.
1024
00:55:06,327 --> 00:55:08,619
Just put you on the
stand to have you freeze,
1025
00:55:08,702 --> 00:55:10,952
is something that's
incomprehensible.
1026
00:55:11,035 --> 00:55:14,535
But I never want to hear
that you blame yourself.
1027
00:55:15,869 --> 00:55:17,661
I made the decision.
1028
00:55:17,744 --> 00:55:20,452
And do I think
about it? Of course!
1029
00:55:20,535 --> 00:55:22,327
That case...
1030
00:55:22,410 --> 00:55:23,952
As many cases as I've tried,
1031
00:55:24,035 --> 00:55:26,827
as many cases of
sexual abuses I've tried,
1032
00:55:26,911 --> 00:55:29,702
as many murder
cases as I've tried,
1033
00:55:30,702 --> 00:55:34,661
what's the case that's
gonna be with me
1034
00:55:34,744 --> 00:55:37,035
for the rest of my days?
1035
00:55:37,118 --> 00:55:39,869
My decision in
this investigation.
1036
00:55:41,577 --> 00:55:43,369
(sniffles, laughs)
1037
00:55:44,827 --> 00:55:48,577
I wasn't exactly sure
like what I wanted...
1038
00:55:49,452 --> 00:55:51,410
to say.
1039
00:55:53,077 --> 00:55:54,535
I guess...
1040
00:55:54,619 --> 00:55:57,535
I guess I just needed
to hear that. (sniffs)
1041
00:55:58,410 --> 00:56:00,035
Thank you.
1042
00:56:00,786 --> 00:56:02,619
For everything.
1043
00:56:02,702 --> 00:56:05,619
♪ ♪
1044
00:56:05,702 --> 00:56:08,869
(indistinct chatter)
1045
00:56:19,077 --> 00:56:22,202
Alissa: About two months after
the allegations against Weinstein,
1046
00:56:22,285 --> 00:56:25,869
Dylan wrote another op-ed,
this time for the "LA Times,"
1047
00:56:25,952 --> 00:56:29,035
and asked explicitly why
hasn't the MeToo movement
1048
00:56:29,118 --> 00:56:31,535
toppled Woody
Allen yet. And in it,
1049
00:56:31,619 --> 00:56:34,202
she links the way that
Hollywood had protected
1050
00:56:34,285 --> 00:56:36,827
other predators to the
way people had protected
1051
00:56:36,911 --> 00:56:40,452
her father and renewed
her allegations against him.
1052
00:56:42,118 --> 00:56:46,077
I'm tired of not being
believed and being told that...
1053
00:56:47,993 --> 00:56:53,369
that I'm wrong about
something I know 100% for fact.
1054
00:56:53,452 --> 00:56:57,202
I'm tired of being told that
my experiences don't matter.
1055
00:56:57,285 --> 00:57:00,993
I'm tired of feeling like...
1056
00:57:01,827 --> 00:57:04,410
he matters more than me.
1057
00:57:04,494 --> 00:57:06,744
I'm tired of
1058
00:57:06,827 --> 00:57:09,035
this whole argument
of separating
1059
00:57:09,118 --> 00:57:12,494
the art from the artist so that
you can feel better about it.
1060
00:57:13,869 --> 00:57:15,386
Reporter: The MeToo
Movement has forced
1061
00:57:15,410 --> 00:57:17,410
the country to take
a second look at art.
1062
00:57:17,494 --> 00:57:21,160
We've known for a long time
that not all artists are nice people.
1063
00:57:21,243 --> 00:57:23,535
Caravaggio murdered somebody.
1064
00:57:23,619 --> 00:57:25,952
Man: Charles Dickens
was an anti-Semite.
1065
00:57:26,035 --> 00:57:27,555
Woman: I mean,
the list goes on, right?
1066
00:57:27,619 --> 00:57:30,577
The question is, at the end of the day,
is it still good art?
1067
00:57:30,661 --> 00:57:33,535
What do we do with great
art made by bad people?
1068
00:57:33,619 --> 00:57:35,452
How do we respond?
How is the work
1069
00:57:35,535 --> 00:57:38,744
altered by our knowledge
of their badness?
1070
00:57:38,827 --> 00:57:41,202
Do we keep consuming
it? Do we not consume it?
1071
00:57:41,285 --> 00:57:43,661
- What about Michael Jackson?
- It's a slippery slope,
1072
00:57:43,744 --> 00:57:46,535
the whole idea that we need
a spotless moral character
1073
00:57:46,619 --> 00:57:49,535
for any artist because no
one's gonna pass that test.
1074
00:57:49,619 --> 00:57:51,452
- Bill Cosby.
- No, I can't listen to him now.
1075
00:57:51,535 --> 00:57:55,202
- No. Oh, you can't? You can't separate it?
- I can't separate it. I can't.
1076
00:57:57,452 --> 00:57:58,803
- Hmm.
- (scattered laughter, applause)
1077
00:57:58,827 --> 00:58:01,035
- Well, to me it's...
- 'Cause there's love there.
1078
00:58:01,118 --> 00:58:02,952
- There's love there.
- Yeah, yeah! I know...
1079
00:58:03,035 --> 00:58:05,452
Claire: When you
look back at men
1080
00:58:05,535 --> 00:58:08,243
like Picasso putting out a
cigarette on a woman's cheek,
1081
00:58:08,327 --> 00:58:11,035
it's not like, you know,
there was a rising up to
1082
00:58:11,118 --> 00:58:13,077
argue that we
shouldn't buy Picassos.
1083
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,702
If anything,
those behaviors burnished their images.
1084
00:58:16,786 --> 00:58:19,535
So, you know, there was this...
1085
00:58:19,619 --> 00:58:24,118
way in which, for a long time,
these really, um,
1086
00:58:24,202 --> 00:58:27,452
aggro male behaviors
1087
00:58:27,535 --> 00:58:29,661
were part of the artist's image,
1088
00:58:29,744 --> 00:58:31,577
and part of maybe even
1089
00:58:31,661 --> 00:58:33,285
what made people
interested in them.
1090
00:58:33,369 --> 00:58:35,327
The big question
is what do you do
1091
00:58:35,410 --> 00:58:37,993
with these things
that are out there
1092
00:58:38,077 --> 00:58:41,160
and that mean something to
you? Do you never revisit them?
1093
00:58:41,243 --> 00:58:43,744
Or do you revisit them
and learn from them?
1094
00:58:43,827 --> 00:58:46,118
You know,
I think the mistake we women make
1095
00:58:46,202 --> 00:58:48,470
is we fall in love with the artist...
Hey! You guys, are you listening?
1096
00:58:48,494 --> 00:58:50,470
- Yes, yes. I'm listening.
- We fall in love with the artist,
1097
00:58:50,494 --> 00:58:53,661
- not the man.
- I don't think that's a mistake. How is that a mistake?
1098
00:58:53,744 --> 00:58:56,494
(overlapping arguing)
1099
00:58:56,577 --> 00:58:58,202
Claire: When you
write about Woody Allen
1100
00:58:58,285 --> 00:59:01,702
and you talk about Woody Allen,
and you don't...
1101
00:59:01,786 --> 00:59:03,911
speak in the most glowing terms,
1102
00:59:03,993 --> 00:59:06,202
there tends to be, um,
1103
00:59:06,285 --> 00:59:09,160
a response from,
in particular, male fans,
1104
00:59:09,243 --> 00:59:12,452
who sort of argue with
1105
00:59:13,744 --> 00:59:17,035
the whole premise that
1106
00:59:17,118 --> 00:59:18,702
there might be
1107
00:59:18,786 --> 00:59:21,619
a biographical case to be made
1108
00:59:21,702 --> 00:59:23,911
against Woody's work.
1109
00:59:25,452 --> 00:59:29,035
But I actually think
that acknowledging
1110
00:59:29,118 --> 00:59:31,661
the biographical element,
withstanding it,
1111
00:59:31,744 --> 00:59:35,369
and still continuing
to consume the art
1112
00:59:35,452 --> 00:59:36,952
is a stronger argument
1113
00:59:37,035 --> 00:59:40,661
for the endurance and the
beauty and the importance of art,
1114
00:59:40,744 --> 00:59:44,077
rather than pretending that
the biography doesn't touch it.
1115
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,494
It's so much easier when
nobody's making any money, isn't it?
1116
00:59:47,577 --> 00:59:49,202
(laughs)
1117
00:59:49,285 --> 00:59:51,369
Wagner's not getting any
money when we perform
1118
00:59:51,452 --> 00:59:53,577
his operas, you know?
1119
00:59:53,661 --> 00:59:57,285
In the process of
spending all this time
1120
00:59:57,369 --> 00:59:59,869
understanding the
mind of someone
1121
00:59:59,952 --> 01:00:02,077
who I thought of as abusive,
1122
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,911
and kind of understanding
1123
01:00:04,993 --> 01:00:07,327
how his mind worked
1124
01:00:07,410 --> 01:00:10,452
and what made things tick,
it was...
1125
01:00:11,661 --> 01:00:14,077
giving him box office,
giving him press,
1126
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,243
giving him more power.
1127
01:00:16,327 --> 01:00:20,661
And by writing about his movies
and contributing to his movies,
1128
01:00:20,744 --> 01:00:25,577
I was increasing the power
that he was able to abuse.
1129
01:00:25,661 --> 01:00:27,661
And for me, that was the line.
1130
01:00:27,744 --> 01:00:30,452
So I wrote an article in
the "Hollywood Reporter"
1131
01:00:30,535 --> 01:00:33,993
about how I wouldn't watch
any more new Woody Allen films.
1132
01:00:36,535 --> 01:00:38,577
I had to turn off
all my notifications.
1133
01:00:38,661 --> 01:00:40,285
I've never gotten
so much hate mail.
1134
01:00:40,369 --> 01:00:43,118
I just like tried to be offline
for a while after I wrote this.
1135
01:00:43,202 --> 01:00:46,786
I haven't seen a new
Woody Allen film since,
1136
01:00:46,869 --> 01:00:49,702
and I...
1137
01:00:49,786 --> 01:00:52,827
probably won't until he's dead.
1138
01:00:52,911 --> 01:00:55,077
♪ ♪
1139
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,369
I got an interview
with Roland Pollard.
1140
01:00:57,452 --> 01:00:59,744
- Oh my gosh, that is amazing!
- (laughs)
1141
01:00:59,827 --> 01:01:02,702
- And it's on campus?
- Mm-mmm. It's in Manhattan.
1142
01:01:02,786 --> 01:01:04,452
♪ ♪
1143
01:01:04,535 --> 01:01:06,410
Alissa: So one of
the earliest actors
1144
01:01:06,494 --> 01:01:08,160
to say they wouldn't
work with him again
1145
01:01:08,243 --> 01:01:10,577
and they wished
they hadn't in the past
1146
01:01:10,661 --> 01:01:12,285
was Griffin Newman, who had shot
1147
01:01:12,369 --> 01:01:14,243
scenes for "Rainy
Day In New York,"
1148
01:01:14,327 --> 01:01:16,035
He said he regretted it.
1149
01:01:16,118 --> 01:01:18,327
He wished he hadn't done it,
and he donated his salary.
1150
01:01:18,410 --> 01:01:20,494
Several other people followed.
1151
01:01:20,577 --> 01:01:23,993
Rebecca Hall and
Timothée Chalamet
1152
01:01:24,077 --> 01:01:26,160
and Selena Gomez,
all of these people started
1153
01:01:26,243 --> 01:01:28,202
donating their salaries as well.
1154
01:01:28,285 --> 01:01:31,535
♪ ♪
1155
01:01:31,619 --> 01:01:34,869
Dylan: When the first
messages of support
1156
01:01:34,952 --> 01:01:37,744
actually came,
I-I-I was kind of shocked.
1157
01:01:39,952 --> 01:01:43,160
It was presented to actors
that these were people
1158
01:01:43,243 --> 01:01:46,077
who it was okay to work with.
1159
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,535
Um, but now, of course,
1160
01:01:48,619 --> 01:01:51,827
I feel I can just say, you know,
I shouldn't have done.
1161
01:01:56,243 --> 01:01:58,661
Dylan: I think
what they did took
1162
01:01:58,744 --> 01:02:01,702
a lot of bravery
in and of itself,
1163
01:02:01,786 --> 01:02:05,243
and it's really helped me to...
1164
01:02:06,619 --> 01:02:12,577
to reclaim some of my
own sense of self-worth.
1165
01:02:14,786 --> 01:02:17,410
And every message of support
1166
01:02:17,494 --> 01:02:20,535
that I've received
has been a gift.
1167
01:02:20,619 --> 01:02:23,327
Gayle: Over the past two weeks,
several celebrities have voiced
1168
01:02:23,410 --> 01:02:25,869
their support for Farrow,
including Natalie Portman,
1169
01:02:25,952 --> 01:02:28,577
who spoke out on
"CBS Sunday Morning."
1170
01:02:28,661 --> 01:02:31,243
I believe Dylan.
I wanna say that.
1171
01:02:31,327 --> 01:02:33,118
I believe you, Dylan.
1172
01:02:33,202 --> 01:02:37,035
♪ ♪
1173
01:02:37,118 --> 01:02:39,952
I do think that my
sister's ferocious courage
1174
01:02:40,035 --> 01:02:43,285
in insisting that she
speak out again as an adult
1175
01:02:43,369 --> 01:02:47,577
was part of a set
of circumstances
1176
01:02:47,661 --> 01:02:51,911
that catalyzed more women
feeling empowered to speak.
1177
01:02:51,993 --> 01:02:54,869
And you can chart how
different the reaction was
1178
01:02:54,952 --> 01:02:57,035
when my sister spoke in 2014,
1179
01:02:57,118 --> 01:03:01,285
and then when she
again spoke in 2018.
1180
01:03:01,369 --> 01:03:03,619
The culture changed
in that window
1181
01:03:03,702 --> 01:03:06,285
in a significant way,
and we are, for the first time,
1182
01:03:06,369 --> 01:03:08,577
hearing stories like hers,
1183
01:03:08,661 --> 01:03:11,911
and not spin and
counter-narrative.
1184
01:03:16,993 --> 01:03:20,118
Allen: The press lumped
me with any number of men
1185
01:03:20,202 --> 01:03:22,494
who were charged,
convicted, or admitted
1186
01:03:22,577 --> 01:03:25,869
to sex crimes or harassment
of large numbers of women
1187
01:03:25,952 --> 01:03:28,702
on numerous occasions,
despite the fact
1188
01:03:28,786 --> 01:03:31,410
the accusation against
me had repeatedly
1189
01:03:31,494 --> 01:03:33,452
been found not to have occurred.
1190
01:03:33,535 --> 01:03:36,619
Schools stopped giving
courses on my films.
1191
01:03:36,702 --> 01:03:40,285
I was cut out of a documentary
about the Carlyle Hotel.
1192
01:03:40,369 --> 01:03:43,619
I was cut out of a
series on poetry by PBS.
1193
01:03:43,702 --> 01:03:46,285
My completed film,
"A Rainy Day In New York,"
1194
01:03:46,369 --> 01:03:48,869
lay around
undistributed in America,
1195
01:03:48,952 --> 01:03:52,243
though, mercifully,
the rest of the world was not so nuts.
1196
01:04:00,993 --> 01:04:03,035
Throughout her relationship
with Woody Allen,
1197
01:04:03,118 --> 01:04:05,160
Soon-Yi has
remained mostly silent.
1198
01:04:05,243 --> 01:04:07,410
But now,
the 47-year-old is speaking out.
1199
01:04:07,494 --> 01:04:09,327
Reporter 1: Previn told
"New York" Magazine,
1200
01:04:09,410 --> 01:04:12,993
quote, "What's happened to
Woody is so upsetting, so unjust..."
1201
01:04:13,077 --> 01:04:15,494
We should point out that
Woody Allen was present
1202
01:04:15,577 --> 01:04:18,661
for much of that interview,
and he weighed in periodically.
1203
01:04:18,744 --> 01:04:21,993
Reporter 2: Soon-Yi says Mia
Farrow had a tendency of slapping
1204
01:04:22,077 --> 01:04:25,952
and spanking Soon-Yi or
calling her stupid and moronic.
1205
01:04:33,952 --> 01:04:36,369
Reporter: This is a
very pointed piece.
1206
01:04:36,452 --> 01:04:38,577
It's out there
because Woody Allen
1207
01:04:38,661 --> 01:04:41,410
can't make the movies
that he wants to make.
1208
01:04:41,494 --> 01:04:44,202
Actors,
actresses are apologizing
1209
01:04:44,285 --> 01:04:45,535
for having worked with him,
1210
01:04:45,619 --> 01:04:46,952
perhaps refusing
to work with him.
1211
01:04:47,035 --> 01:04:48,577
It looks like his
latest film has been
1212
01:04:48,661 --> 01:04:52,035
put on the shelf. This
is a calculated move.
1213
01:04:52,118 --> 01:04:55,243
This is a calculated
move in a media war.
1214
01:04:57,118 --> 01:04:59,285
Mia: He's weaponized
two of my children
1215
01:04:59,369 --> 01:05:01,535
that he's turned against me.
1216
01:05:01,619 --> 01:05:04,952
They are all people I
loved with all my heart.
1217
01:05:05,035 --> 01:05:08,369
All of them. And they're
all people that I would have
1218
01:05:08,452 --> 01:05:11,744
laid down my life for. And...
1219
01:05:12,661 --> 01:05:16,243
I love Soon-Yi, you know?
1220
01:05:16,327 --> 01:05:18,452
It took me six
years to throw away
1221
01:05:18,535 --> 01:05:20,410
the Christmas
stocking I knitted for her,
1222
01:05:20,494 --> 01:05:22,369
thinking she would come back.
1223
01:05:22,452 --> 01:05:24,035
But, she didn't.
1224
01:05:35,077 --> 01:05:37,202
(birds chirping)
1225
01:05:47,494 --> 01:05:49,827
When Dylan
wanted to confront it,
1226
01:05:49,911 --> 01:05:52,369
or, you know,
Ronan did, or whatever,
1227
01:05:52,452 --> 01:05:56,744
I was always there to say
you do what you need to do.
1228
01:05:56,827 --> 01:05:58,993
And I'll be really proud of you,
whatever it is.
1229
01:05:59,077 --> 01:06:01,202
If you decide never
to talk about it,
1230
01:06:01,285 --> 01:06:02,535
believe me, I understand.
1231
01:06:02,619 --> 01:06:04,744
If you decide you
need to talk about it,
1232
01:06:04,827 --> 01:06:06,035
I'm there with you.
1233
01:06:06,118 --> 01:06:08,077
I'm there with you,
and I'm super proud.
1234
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,452
If that's part of an evolution,
1235
01:06:10,535 --> 01:06:13,535
oh my gosh, that's wonderful.
1236
01:06:13,619 --> 01:06:15,410
And then I would go,
oh! I'm shaking!
1237
01:06:15,494 --> 01:06:17,327
Thinking, "Oh my god,
I hope she doesn't."
1238
01:06:17,410 --> 01:06:20,619
'Cause I knew what would
come and I'd be so scared.
1239
01:06:20,702 --> 01:06:23,160
You know,
I was so scared of him.
1240
01:06:25,035 --> 01:06:27,369
(Amy Ziering speaking)
1241
01:06:31,202 --> 01:06:33,827
I know. That shouldn't go
with my really strong package
1242
01:06:33,911 --> 01:06:36,243
that I'd like to
present. (laughs)
1243
01:06:41,744 --> 01:06:44,410
I don't know. I'm just scared.
1244
01:06:44,494 --> 01:06:47,619
I'm scared of him,
you know, of...
1245
01:06:47,702 --> 01:06:52,744
a person who has
no allegiance to truth...
1246
01:06:53,619 --> 01:06:55,077
will do anything.
1247
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:56,619
A person who will do anything
1248
01:06:56,702 --> 01:06:58,911
is somebody to be scared of.
1249
01:07:00,410 --> 01:07:03,952
And so I worry that when
this documentary comes out,
1250
01:07:04,035 --> 01:07:05,827
he will be on the attack again.
1251
01:07:05,911 --> 01:07:09,869
He'll do whatever he has to do
to try to save himself, you know?
1252
01:07:10,993 --> 01:07:13,702
From the truths,
from the mess he made.
1253
01:07:15,619 --> 01:07:17,661
If I could take it all back,
I would.
1254
01:07:17,744 --> 01:07:20,744
I wish I'd never met him,
of course.
1255
01:07:20,827 --> 01:07:24,702
That's my great
regret of my life.
1256
01:07:24,786 --> 01:07:26,410
To bring somebody like that.
1257
01:07:26,494 --> 01:07:29,077
He should never
have been in the family.
1258
01:07:30,369 --> 01:07:33,327
- Hello? - Dylan: Hi there!
1259
01:07:34,993 --> 01:07:36,869
Do you want a cup of coffee?
1260
01:07:36,952 --> 01:07:39,786
- Always. Yes. (laughs) - Yeah.
1261
01:07:39,869 --> 01:07:41,993
I know my daughter.
1262
01:07:42,077 --> 01:07:44,160
Do you want milk or cream?
1263
01:07:44,243 --> 01:07:46,285
- Dylan: You have cream? - No.
1264
01:07:46,369 --> 01:07:48,202
- (laughing) - I thought I did,
1265
01:07:48,285 --> 01:07:50,285
but I don't.
1266
01:07:51,827 --> 01:07:54,827
(muffled chatter)
1267
01:07:54,911 --> 01:07:57,993
♪ ♪
1268
01:08:01,452 --> 01:08:04,410
Mia: You know, my mind goes back,
like what should I have done?
1269
01:08:04,494 --> 01:08:05,952
And I know what
I should've done.
1270
01:08:06,035 --> 01:08:08,452
And then it's why didn't I?
1271
01:08:08,535 --> 01:08:11,661
And then who was I that
didn't do those things?
1272
01:08:12,744 --> 01:08:14,452
You know, when I should have,
1273
01:08:14,535 --> 01:08:18,285
and I know that I should have now,
you know?
1274
01:08:19,661 --> 01:08:22,160
Do you ever feel angry at me?
1275
01:08:23,452 --> 01:08:27,160
For somehow letting this happen?
1276
01:08:28,243 --> 01:08:29,993
Bringing this
person in the house,
1277
01:08:30,077 --> 01:08:32,160
bringing this
person into a family.
1278
01:08:39,911 --> 01:08:43,369
You know, you, you,
you very easily could have...
1279
01:08:45,035 --> 01:08:47,577
chosen not to believe me.
1280
01:08:47,661 --> 01:08:50,452
To take his word over mine,
1281
01:08:50,535 --> 01:08:52,869
and just, you know,
I mean, and I've talked
1282
01:08:52,952 --> 01:08:55,535
to other survivors
that say to me,
1283
01:08:55,619 --> 01:08:57,619
"The difference in our story
1284
01:08:57,702 --> 01:09:02,494
"is that my mom...
didn't believe me.
1285
01:09:02,577 --> 01:09:06,410
"My mom didn't protect me,
and my mom was not there for me.
1286
01:09:06,494 --> 01:09:08,786
She was not willing
to fight for me."
1287
01:09:08,869 --> 01:09:10,744
And I, you know,
1288
01:09:10,827 --> 01:09:13,452
whatever other
mistakes you made,
1289
01:09:13,535 --> 01:09:15,702
I just feel like...
1290
01:09:16,827 --> 01:09:19,118
you were there when it mattered.
1291
01:09:19,202 --> 01:09:22,327
♪ ♪
1292
01:09:30,118 --> 01:09:33,243
(birds chirping)
1293
01:09:36,243 --> 01:09:40,744
So, this is the photo album
that I made for my daughter.
1294
01:09:40,827 --> 01:09:42,786
Following in my...
1295
01:09:42,869 --> 01:09:46,744
in my mother's footsteps,
I made a photo album.
1296
01:09:48,077 --> 01:09:52,911
I kept all my, um,
my cards from my baby shower,
1297
01:09:52,993 --> 01:09:55,118
um,
couple of four-leaf clovers that I found
1298
01:09:55,202 --> 01:09:58,744
within a week of each other,
um...
1299
01:09:58,827 --> 01:10:01,661
Just, I don't know, maybe,
maybe they're good luck.
1300
01:10:01,744 --> 01:10:03,160
(flipping pages)
1301
01:10:03,243 --> 01:10:06,993
Pictures of me all glowing
and pregnant and happy.
1302
01:10:10,494 --> 01:10:12,535
The second I found out
I was having a little girl,
1303
01:10:12,619 --> 01:10:15,993
I was overjoyed,
but I was also terrified.
1304
01:10:17,452 --> 01:10:21,202
(indistinct chatter)
1305
01:10:21,285 --> 01:10:23,786
And there are moments when...
1306
01:10:23,869 --> 01:10:29,535
I look at my daughter,
and I see little like flickers
1307
01:10:29,619 --> 01:10:31,786
of little Dylan in her, and...
1308
01:10:33,285 --> 01:10:36,077
I get what my mom did for me.
1309
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:37,577
How hard it was.
1310
01:10:37,661 --> 01:10:40,993
- (birds chirping)
- (chattering)
1311
01:10:41,077 --> 01:10:44,077
- (dog barks) - (Mia laughing)
1312
01:10:45,202 --> 01:10:48,118
- Hi! - We came to you...
1313
01:10:48,202 --> 01:10:50,202
we, we came here!
1314
01:10:50,285 --> 01:10:52,327
You came here, you did.
1315
01:10:52,410 --> 01:10:54,577
I'm so glad to see you.
1316
01:10:54,661 --> 01:10:56,452
If Mommy can catch it.
1317
01:10:56,535 --> 01:10:58,327
Look. See what she did?
1318
01:10:58,410 --> 01:10:59,535
(laughter)
1319
01:10:59,619 --> 01:11:02,702
♪ ♪
1320
01:11:12,661 --> 01:11:16,327
Dylan: There's so much
1321
01:11:16,410 --> 01:11:19,160
about what I've been through
1322
01:11:19,243 --> 01:11:22,661
that I'll never be
able to fully explain.
1323
01:11:25,077 --> 01:11:28,369
I think that the best gift that
1324
01:11:28,452 --> 01:11:31,869
I could've given my
daughter is that she has
1325
01:11:31,952 --> 01:11:34,535
a really wonderful father.
1326
01:11:34,619 --> 01:11:36,243
Sean: Let's go.
1327
01:11:40,202 --> 01:11:42,327
You know, honestly, sometimes...
1328
01:11:43,661 --> 01:11:47,911
when I watch my husband
and my daughter together,
1329
01:11:47,993 --> 01:11:50,702
I actually feel
a little jealous.
1330
01:11:53,744 --> 01:11:55,619
But...
1331
01:11:55,702 --> 01:11:57,118
it's, it's bittersweet
1332
01:11:57,202 --> 01:11:59,369
because I know
I'm paying it forward.
1333
01:12:02,577 --> 01:12:05,202
(indistinct)
1334
01:12:06,993 --> 01:12:10,160
(chatter, laughter)
1335
01:12:24,869 --> 01:12:27,952
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1336
01:13:22,494 --> 01:13:25,619
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