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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,230 more than 20 million Americans say they 2 00:00:02,100 --> 00:00:06,839 have seen an unidentified flying object 3 00:00:04,230 --> 00:00:08,910 yet the subject of UFOs is generally 4 00:00:06,839 --> 00:00:10,460 scorned by science journalism and the 5 00:00:08,910 --> 00:00:12,449 government and Eyewitness News 6 00:00:10,460 --> 00:00:14,070 investigation into the topic that was 7 00:00:12,449 --> 00:00:16,649 broadcast last November has drawn 8 00:00:14,070 --> 00:00:19,198 worldwide attention and not all of that 9 00:00:16,649 --> 00:00:21,000 attention has been positive tonight 10 00:00:19,199 --> 00:00:23,550 George Knapp picks up where our previous 11 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,859 series left off the new series is called 12 00:00:23,550 --> 00:00:27,778 UFOs the best evidence question mark 13 00:00:25,859 --> 00:00:30,000 Gary and Mary Ruth we've added the 14 00:00:27,778 --> 00:00:32,278 question mark for a good reason there 15 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,899 are many unanswered questions about UFOs 16 00:00:32,279 --> 00:00:35,219 and about some of the people who claim 17 00:00:33,899 --> 00:00:37,649 to have knowledge about the topic 18 00:00:35,219 --> 00:00:39,629 questions about credibility and motives 19 00:00:37,649 --> 00:00:41,969 will be taking a hard look at some of 20 00:00:39,628 --> 00:00:43,649 those questions this week and beyond one 21 00:00:41,969 --> 00:00:45,450 thing we found is that despite some 22 00:00:43,649 --> 00:00:47,340 sniping from other media and the 23 00:00:45,450 --> 00:00:50,039 scoffing of government officials people 24 00:00:47,340 --> 00:00:52,710 want to know about UFOs even some very 25 00:00:50,039 --> 00:00:54,030 prominent people here because I know 15 26 00:00:52,710 --> 00:00:55,948 years ago if you would have said 27 00:00:54,030 --> 00:00:58,289 something especially with the guys I 28 00:00:55,948 --> 00:01:00,869 hang around they were gone right you 29 00:00:58,289 --> 00:01:03,210 know and when he going to Sparks Kent 30 00:01:00,869 --> 00:01:05,188 Orem is a hard-boiled semi cynical 31 00:01:03,210 --> 00:01:07,079 public relations man currently running 32 00:01:05,188 --> 00:01:09,929 the election campaign of Nevada Governor 33 00:01:07,079 --> 00:01:11,849 Bob Miller a few years ago Orem says he 34 00:01:09,930 --> 00:01:14,880 and his wife saw something strange in 35 00:01:11,849 --> 00:01:16,259 the night sky over Mel Charleston and we 36 00:01:14,879 --> 00:01:18,750 looked at it for about two and a half 37 00:01:16,259 --> 00:01:20,579 minutes in an ever budge and at the time 38 00:01:18,750 --> 00:01:22,200 I made a joke to my wife you know I mean 39 00:01:20,579 --> 00:01:23,789 if you were under the Starship 40 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,250 Enterprise you know that's sort of what 41 00:01:23,790 --> 00:01:28,110 it might look like and it was I would 42 00:01:26,250 --> 00:01:30,390 say it was gigantic and it was more of a 43 00:01:28,109 --> 00:01:33,239 square shape but it was a lot of lights 44 00:01:30,390 --> 00:01:35,969 and so I had a pair of binoculars in the 45 00:01:33,239 --> 00:01:37,890 back of my RAM charger so I went to get 46 00:01:35,969 --> 00:01:39,569 them we finally found him and that we 47 00:01:37,890 --> 00:01:42,030 looked up in the sky and it was gone I 48 00:01:39,569 --> 00:01:44,459 mean just flat going it depends on who 49 00:01:42,030 --> 00:01:45,629 I'm talking to about apprehension you 50 00:01:44,459 --> 00:01:48,839 know they kind of raise an eyebrow 51 00:01:45,629 --> 00:01:50,009 etchant you know Chuck Woodworth is a 20 52 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,439 year veteran of the metro police 53 00:01:50,009 --> 00:01:54,359 department a trained observer who grew 54 00:01:52,438 --> 00:01:57,209 up in the shadow of the Nevada Test Site 55 00:01:54,359 --> 00:01:59,789 he had four friends saw their UFO in the 56 00:01:57,209 --> 00:02:00,809 desert north of Pioche all we saw was 57 00:01:59,790 --> 00:02:03,329 the LA I want to tell you it's the most 58 00:02:00,810 --> 00:02:05,250 intense light I've ever seen and I've 59 00:02:03,328 --> 00:02:09,149 been under some around some pretty heavy 60 00:02:05,250 --> 00:02:11,068 lights I've if you stood under the 61 00:02:09,149 --> 00:02:12,419 police helicopter at night when they're 62 00:02:11,068 --> 00:02:14,030 lighting up an area and they come right 63 00:02:12,419 --> 00:02:16,799 down I really saturated with light 64 00:02:14,030 --> 00:02:19,409 those would be very very dim to the 65 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:21,270 lights we saw from this just I would 66 00:02:19,409 --> 00:02:24,870 judge his distance that we observed him 67 00:02:21,270 --> 00:02:27,180 to be at least 20 miles 15 to 20 miles 68 00:02:24,870 --> 00:02:29,340 from us and they were intense either 69 00:02:27,180 --> 00:02:31,230 Woodworth nor Orem can identify what 70 00:02:29,340 --> 00:02:33,659 they saw but both believe recent 71 00:02:31,229 --> 00:02:35,818 publicity about UFOs has made it easier 72 00:02:33,659 --> 00:02:37,739 to openly discuss the subject they're 73 00:02:35,818 --> 00:02:39,659 still those who have reservations though 74 00:02:37,739 --> 00:02:42,239 two of Southern Nevada's best-known 75 00:02:39,659 --> 00:02:44,189 elected officials say they've seen UFOs 76 00:02:42,239 --> 00:02:44,909 but neither was willing to admit it on 77 00:02:44,189 --> 00:02:46,889 television 78 00:02:44,909 --> 00:02:49,079 a veteran Las Vegas attorney sent us 79 00:02:46,889 --> 00:02:51,750 this letter saying he once had access to 80 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:53,819 a top-secret military briefing book that 81 00:02:51,750 --> 00:02:56,969 included dozens of official photographs 82 00:02:53,818 --> 00:02:59,039 of alien beings an alien spacecraft the 83 00:02:56,969 --> 00:03:00,870 attorney did not want his name used most 84 00:02:59,039 --> 00:03:02,639 people believe that that UFOs are 85 00:03:00,870 --> 00:03:04,769 physically real rather than imaginary 86 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:07,048 that's what the polls say but the same 87 00:03:04,769 --> 00:03:08,909 different poll also shows that those 88 00:03:07,049 --> 00:03:10,709 same people believe that other people 89 00:03:08,909 --> 00:03:13,229 don't believe that UFOs are physically 90 00:03:10,709 --> 00:03:15,209 real no one can say just how many UFOs 91 00:03:13,229 --> 00:03:17,009 are sighted each year primarily because 92 00:03:15,209 --> 00:03:19,709 it's difficult to report a sighting 93 00:03:17,009 --> 00:03:22,379 metro police won't take UFO reports at 94 00:03:19,709 --> 00:03:25,319 all and offer no advice on where to send 95 00:03:22,379 --> 00:03:27,209 them the FAA and macaron tower also say 96 00:03:25,319 --> 00:03:29,699 they're not interested and if you call 97 00:03:27,209 --> 00:03:32,489 Nellis Air Force Base as Ruth Ruiz did 98 00:03:29,699 --> 00:03:34,738 this is the response you'll get and he 99 00:03:32,489 --> 00:03:37,400 told me that they're not interested 100 00:03:34,739 --> 00:03:41,340 anymore in the UFOs because now we know 101 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:44,879 whoever it is or whatever it is it's not 102 00:03:41,340 --> 00:03:45,989 a threat to us our national security now 103 00:03:44,879 --> 00:03:47,879 that's what he told me 104 00:03:45,989 --> 00:03:50,819 Nellis will give you the number of a 105 00:03:47,879 --> 00:03:52,979 private UFO hotline located in Seattle 106 00:03:50,819 --> 00:03:54,989 what's more both Nellis and McCarran 107 00:03:52,979 --> 00:03:57,209 spokesmen say they have no memory of 108 00:03:54,989 --> 00:03:59,310 even a single UFO sighting over their 109 00:03:57,209 --> 00:04:01,829 facilities a claim that is flatly 110 00:03:59,310 --> 00:04:04,229 contradicted by informed sources at both 111 00:04:01,829 --> 00:04:05,939 locations some UFO sightings are 112 00:04:04,229 --> 00:04:07,919 reported to the planetarium where 113 00:04:05,939 --> 00:04:10,229 astronomers can usually come up with a 114 00:04:07,919 --> 00:04:12,179 logical explanation Venus when it first 115 00:04:10,229 --> 00:04:14,159 Hill a few months ago and Venus first 116 00:04:12,180 --> 00:04:15,719 appeared in our evening sky you know for 117 00:04:14,159 --> 00:04:16,738 this time around you know we got a 118 00:04:15,719 --> 00:04:18,600 number of calls what's that bright 119 00:04:16,738 --> 00:04:20,488 object in this in the sky we'll be 120 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,049 getting calls on Jupiter pretty soon 121 00:04:20,488 --> 00:04:24,478 because it's now rising about midnight 122 00:04:22,048 --> 00:04:26,129 in the east yeah we get those calls 123 00:04:24,478 --> 00:04:27,209 mainly it's just curiosity you know they 124 00:04:26,129 --> 00:04:27,719 see something strange they hadn't 125 00:04:27,209 --> 00:04:30,870 noticed before 126 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:33,690 or even diehard UFO believers admit that 127 00:04:30,870 --> 00:04:35,699 90% of all UFO sightings are explainable 128 00:04:33,689 --> 00:04:36,300 but it's the other 10% that are of 129 00:04:35,699 --> 00:04:39,389 interest 130 00:04:36,300 --> 00:04:40,920 one good unidentifiable flying object 131 00:04:39,389 --> 00:04:42,419 whose characteristics and appearance 132 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,400 indicate we're dealing with a vehicle 133 00:04:42,420 --> 00:04:48,560 whose behavior says it wasn't made here 134 00:04:44,399 --> 00:04:50,969 is worth 50 cases that you can explain 135 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:53,100 just as most drugs don't cure diseases 136 00:04:50,970 --> 00:04:55,560 if you're sick with something you want 137 00:04:53,100 --> 00:04:58,350 the one that does don't tell me about 138 00:04:55,560 --> 00:05:00,629 the ones that don't so the focus with 139 00:04:58,350 --> 00:05:02,850 flying saucers has to be on the evidence 140 00:05:00,629 --> 00:05:05,490 the best evidence from all over the 141 00:05:02,850 --> 00:05:07,500 world using UFOs and evidence in the 142 00:05:05,490 --> 00:05:09,210 same sentence is a sore spot with some 143 00:05:07,500 --> 00:05:11,129 media outlets the Las Vegas 144 00:05:09,209 --> 00:05:13,859 review-journal has taken a dim view of 145 00:05:11,129 --> 00:05:16,500 UFO reports colonists have cleverly 146 00:05:13,860 --> 00:05:18,990 compared the UFO topic to the search for 147 00:05:16,500 --> 00:05:21,750 Elvis media critics say it's nothing but 148 00:05:18,990 --> 00:05:23,819 a ratings ploy when an international UFO 149 00:05:21,750 --> 00:05:26,819 convention was held in Las Vegas the 150 00:05:23,819 --> 00:05:29,610 lone story done by the RJ was a profile 151 00:05:26,819 --> 00:05:31,829 of UFO debunker Phil class with a 152 00:05:29,610 --> 00:05:33,629 headline suggesting it was class who 153 00:05:31,829 --> 00:05:36,300 knew the truth about flying saucers 154 00:05:33,629 --> 00:05:38,550 later though the papers succumb to UFO 155 00:05:36,300 --> 00:05:41,100 fever with a front-page story in its 156 00:05:38,550 --> 00:05:43,918 sunday supplement about UFO sightings in 157 00:05:41,100 --> 00:05:46,379 Nelson Nevada their word seems to be you 158 00:05:43,918 --> 00:05:48,930 know snicker snicker and and make fun of 159 00:05:46,379 --> 00:05:51,569 it but you know it's just this attitude 160 00:05:48,930 --> 00:05:52,949 that the journalists have got if they 161 00:05:51,569 --> 00:05:54,659 didn't know about it before it couldn't 162 00:05:52,949 --> 00:05:57,149 possibly be true I mean they've been 163 00:05:54,660 --> 00:06:00,450 sitting on this story now for about two 164 00:05:57,149 --> 00:06:02,819 years when I first started out and there 165 00:06:00,449 --> 00:06:06,240 hasn't been one of them that has done 166 00:06:02,819 --> 00:06:11,279 any useful research at all anyone who 167 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:14,610 takes but one hour to review some of the 168 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:17,699 available evidence cannot come away 169 00:06:14,610 --> 00:06:20,819 without the firm conviction that there 170 00:06:17,699 --> 00:06:23,789 is something out there not all media 171 00:06:20,819 --> 00:06:26,040 have shunned UFOs radio talk-show host 172 00:06:23,790 --> 00:06:28,229 Billy Goodman for months devoted most of 173 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,240 his program to the topic but Goodman's 174 00:06:28,228 --> 00:06:32,279 show was canceled by station management 175 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,560 his listeners suspect it's part of a 176 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,149 government plot station executives say 177 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,009 while the show was popular with 178 00:06:36,149 --> 00:06:40,288 listeners it wasn't popular with 179 00:06:38,009 --> 00:06:41,399 advertisers they canceled Goodman they 180 00:06:40,288 --> 00:06:43,439 say as part of a 181 00:06:41,399 --> 00:06:45,239 format change to news and sports 182 00:06:43,439 --> 00:06:47,430 programming much of Goodman's 183 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,710 multi-state audience is now listening to 184 00:06:47,430 --> 00:06:51,900 Florida based talk host Chuck harder 185 00:06:49,709 --> 00:06:53,728 who's for the people network is heard on 186 00:06:51,899 --> 00:06:55,859 80 stations coast-to-coast 187 00:06:53,728 --> 00:06:57,409 and frequently focuses on UFO 188 00:06:55,860 --> 00:07:00,569 developments in Southern Nevada 189 00:06:57,410 --> 00:07:02,280 predictably UFOs remain a staple of the 190 00:07:00,569 --> 00:07:04,978 tabloids which seemed to be getting even 191 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,809 further out than before Nazi astronauts 192 00:07:04,978 --> 00:07:07,439 returned to earth in surprisingly good 193 00:07:06,810 --> 00:07:10,228 health 194 00:07:07,439 --> 00:07:12,360 according to NASA sources space aliens 195 00:07:10,228 --> 00:07:13,529 stealing our frogs they must be stopped 196 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,840 before it's too late 197 00:07:13,529 --> 00:07:17,638 remember the psychic who invited aliens 198 00:07:15,839 --> 00:07:19,019 to land at a Monday night football game 199 00:07:17,639 --> 00:07:21,210 they never showed up 200 00:07:19,019 --> 00:07:22,948 not because the Eagles Bears matchup 201 00:07:21,209 --> 00:07:25,079 wasn't appealing but because the 202 00:07:22,949 --> 00:07:26,939 Goodyear blimp scared them away one 203 00:07:25,079 --> 00:07:29,250 weekly tabloid featured a story about 204 00:07:26,939 --> 00:07:31,350 Bob Lazar the young scientist who says 205 00:07:29,250 --> 00:07:33,300 he worked at s for a secret Nevada 206 00:07:31,350 --> 00:07:35,430 military base where the government is 207 00:07:33,300 --> 00:07:38,098 allegedly tinkering with flying saucers 208 00:07:35,430 --> 00:07:40,769 of alien origin the article included 209 00:07:38,098 --> 00:07:43,409 hyped up non quotes and artists versions 210 00:07:40,769 --> 00:07:46,288 of s4 Lazar has also been featured in 211 00:07:43,410 --> 00:07:48,240 UFO magazines this article demanded that 212 00:07:46,288 --> 00:07:51,569 he open up his life for scrutiny by 213 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:53,610 skeptical UFO buffs other UFO magazines 214 00:07:51,569 --> 00:07:56,310 aren't much different from tabloids this 215 00:07:53,610 --> 00:07:59,129 one Awards $10 a month to the person who 216 00:07:56,310 --> 00:08:01,439 can rig up the best phony UFO photo 217 00:07:59,129 --> 00:08:04,110 lazarre's story has even made it into 218 00:08:01,439 --> 00:08:06,870 Car and Driver magazine a recent article 219 00:08:04,110 --> 00:08:08,699 highlighted a Nevadan named Bob who had 220 00:08:06,870 --> 00:08:11,038 built a stealth Corvette for the 221 00:08:08,699 --> 00:08:13,199 extensible purpose of penetrating groom 222 00:08:11,038 --> 00:08:15,538 Lake to capture video of the flying 223 00:08:13,199 --> 00:08:17,280 saucers lazarre's story also caught the 224 00:08:15,538 --> 00:08:20,158 attention of at least one television 225 00:08:17,279 --> 00:08:22,079 network Nippon television of Japan which 226 00:08:20,158 --> 00:08:25,469 sent a crew to Nevada to produce a 227 00:08:22,079 --> 00:08:27,029 special about Lazar and area s4 oh you 228 00:08:25,470 --> 00:08:28,620 know what he seemed to be quite an 229 00:08:27,029 --> 00:08:30,629 interesting guy you know he knew what he 230 00:08:28,620 --> 00:08:32,759 was saying it's not another fruitcake 231 00:08:30,629 --> 00:08:35,099 you know we just came out and so wanted 232 00:08:32,759 --> 00:08:36,958 to tell all the story so we did some 233 00:08:35,099 --> 00:08:39,300 backup check and there seems to be some 234 00:08:36,958 --> 00:08:41,728 truth Lee and his crew have produced 17 235 00:08:39,299 --> 00:08:44,038 one hour programs about UFOs for 236 00:08:41,729 --> 00:08:45,959 national broadcast in Japan he says he 237 00:08:44,038 --> 00:08:48,028 can't understand why American networks 238 00:08:45,958 --> 00:08:50,759 avoid the topic for the report on the 239 00:08:48,028 --> 00:08:52,828 Tzar Nippon set aside two full hours on 240 00:08:50,759 --> 00:08:54,059 a Saturday night I don't know about here 241 00:08:52,828 --> 00:08:56,129 but in Japan too 242 00:08:54,059 --> 00:08:58,500 special and Saturday evening from 7:00 243 00:08:56,129 --> 00:09:00,149 to 9:00 it's you know it's a hell of a 244 00:08:58,500 --> 00:09:01,710 you know spot there there are more than 245 00:09:00,149 --> 00:09:04,110 a few people who consider the public 246 00:09:01,710 --> 00:09:04,889 fascination with UFOs to be downright 247 00:09:04,110 --> 00:09:06,930 dangerous 248 00:09:04,889 --> 00:09:09,059 aviation writer Phil class says the 249 00:09:06,929 --> 00:09:11,250 belief in alien beings and a government 250 00:09:09,059 --> 00:09:13,588 cover-up is quote potentially as 251 00:09:11,250 --> 00:09:15,179 dangerous as Jonestown that's the jungle 252 00:09:13,589 --> 00:09:18,000 settlement where dozens of people 253 00:09:15,179 --> 00:09:20,219 willingly committed suicide a study by 254 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,409 two psychologists concluded that persons 255 00:09:20,220 --> 00:09:24,870 obsessed with UFOs especially 256 00:09:22,409 --> 00:09:27,539 cigar-shaped flying saucers or rounded 257 00:09:24,870 --> 00:09:30,060 discs are victims of a familiar Freudian 258 00:09:27,539 --> 00:09:32,399 syndrome if an interest in UFOs is a 259 00:09:30,059 --> 00:09:34,169 sign of mental aberration then count the 260 00:09:32,399 --> 00:09:36,659 US government as being among the 261 00:09:34,169 --> 00:09:39,028 disturbed Bob Lazar of course can recite 262 00:09:36,659 --> 00:09:41,459 a litany of strange things he says have 263 00:09:39,028 --> 00:09:43,528 happened to him tapped phones break-ins 264 00:09:41,460 --> 00:09:45,450 threats but even if you don't buy his 265 00:09:43,528 --> 00:09:47,850 story there are others who can attest to 266 00:09:45,450 --> 00:09:50,009 a government interest in UFO adherents 267 00:09:47,850 --> 00:09:52,230 Terry Tavern Eddie is the former police 268 00:09:50,009 --> 00:09:54,179 officer who performed polygraph tests on 269 00:09:52,230 --> 00:09:56,250 Lazar tavern Eddie who has a corporate 270 00:09:54,179 --> 00:09:58,289 security job with a major Las Vegas 271 00:09:56,250 --> 00:10:00,149 business says that shortly after his 272 00:09:58,289 --> 00:10:02,639 involvement with the Lazar probe was 273 00:10:00,149 --> 00:10:05,039 made public his employers were contacted 274 00:10:02,639 --> 00:10:07,409 the corporate offices or I'm employed 275 00:10:05,039 --> 00:10:10,559 received a telephone call from a 276 00:10:07,409 --> 00:10:13,309 government agency wanting to know why I 277 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:16,199 was getting involved in something that I 278 00:10:13,309 --> 00:10:18,059 shouldn't be and I asked well what 279 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,250 agency what was said did they identify 280 00:10:18,059 --> 00:10:22,949 themselves and I said because I'll be 281 00:10:20,250 --> 00:10:25,769 more than happy to talk to him and I was 282 00:10:22,950 --> 00:10:27,990 refused this information told that he 283 00:10:25,769 --> 00:10:30,000 didn't know meaning my boss savrinn 284 00:10:27,990 --> 00:10:32,220 Eddie who still retains the tapes and 285 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,379 printouts from lazarre's polygraphs also 286 00:10:32,220 --> 00:10:37,080 says his home was burglarized in early 287 00:10:34,379 --> 00:10:38,669 January as an investigator of over 20 288 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:41,940 years I don't believe in coincidences 289 00:10:38,669 --> 00:10:43,559 there's a reason for everything I mean 290 00:10:41,940 --> 00:10:46,200 could it have been a random residential 291 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:48,599 burglary uh yes a Las Vegas man named 292 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,940 Roy Byram contacted us back in November 293 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:53,639 1989 saying he had information about 294 00:10:50,940 --> 00:10:55,650 area 51 that he had gleaned by preparing 295 00:10:53,639 --> 00:10:57,838 tax returns for several people who 296 00:10:55,649 --> 00:11:00,269 worked at Groom Lake less than 24 hours 297 00:10:57,839 --> 00:11:02,490 after phoning us Byram says he was 298 00:11:00,269 --> 00:11:04,919 visited by two men claiming to be Secret 299 00:11:02,490 --> 00:11:07,500 Service agents who quote just wanted to 300 00:11:04,919 --> 00:11:07,829 lean on me a bit journalists who study 301 00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:09,570 the 302 00:11:07,830 --> 00:11:11,670 yield for many years say that government 303 00:11:09,570 --> 00:11:14,610 interest in persons with inside 304 00:11:11,669 --> 00:11:18,959 information about UFOs is very real a 305 00:11:14,610 --> 00:11:21,629 body of information about UFOs in the 306 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:24,540 possession of our government which is so 307 00:11:21,629 --> 00:11:27,000 sensitive to the people in custody of it 308 00:11:24,539 --> 00:11:30,419 that they will do just about anything to 309 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:32,250 protect it finally there's this item a 310 00:11:30,419 --> 00:11:34,379 Las Vegas resident currently working for 311 00:11:32,250 --> 00:11:36,389 local government told us she previously 312 00:11:34,379 --> 00:11:38,370 worked for a defense contractor and was 313 00:11:36,389 --> 00:11:40,679 privy to numerous high-level discussions 314 00:11:38,370 --> 00:11:42,539 about crash discs recovered bodies and 315 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,829 alien technology she was going to 316 00:11:42,539 --> 00:11:46,139 provide us with some of this information 317 00:11:43,830 --> 00:11:48,690 but less than two weeks ago says she was 318 00:11:46,139 --> 00:11:50,639 visited at her home by a man identifying 319 00:11:48,690 --> 00:11:52,260 himself as a government agent the man 320 00:11:50,639 --> 00:11:54,000 said that any release of information 321 00:11:52,259 --> 00:11:55,799 would lead to trouble adding that our 322 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,169 source does a lot of traveling and that 323 00:11:55,799 --> 00:11:59,639 quote accidents can happen the agent 324 00:11:58,169 --> 00:12:01,769 also mentioned that harm could come to 325 00:11:59,639 --> 00:12:03,330 the woman's family she has now declined 326 00:12:01,769 --> 00:12:06,179 to talk with us and you know hearing 327 00:12:03,330 --> 00:12:08,100 Mary Ruth people-watch reports like this 328 00:12:06,179 --> 00:12:09,809 at home and I think some of you view it 329 00:12:08,100 --> 00:12:11,220 with interest but they view it as in the 330 00:12:09,809 --> 00:12:12,899 same way they're interested in a movie 331 00:12:11,220 --> 00:12:15,300 of the week this is not a movie of the 332 00:12:12,899 --> 00:12:16,949 week others seem to believe particularly 333 00:12:15,299 --> 00:12:18,750 our media critics like we're making this 334 00:12:16,950 --> 00:12:20,400 stuff up and we're not making it up 335 00:12:18,750 --> 00:12:23,370 we've spent almost a year on on this 336 00:12:20,399 --> 00:12:25,439 investigation and there is definitely a 337 00:12:23,370 --> 00:12:27,360 body of information out there that 338 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,950 deserves an investigation George 339 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,600 mentioned that the the previous series 340 00:12:28,950 --> 00:12:32,340 has been seen in other states and 341 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,360 countries how has that happened well 342 00:12:32,340 --> 00:12:36,240 there's quite an underground network 343 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:38,129 these UFO people out there UFO buffs at 344 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:40,379 trade tapes and trade information of all 345 00:12:38,129 --> 00:12:41,909 sort we know of three organizations or 346 00:12:40,379 --> 00:12:45,120 groups that have been selling bootleg 347 00:12:41,909 --> 00:12:47,309 copies of the tape in parent or alleged 348 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,990 violation of the copyright laws last 349 00:12:47,309 --> 00:12:50,969 night it was listening to a radio show 350 00:12:48,990 --> 00:12:52,950 it was broadcast coast-to-coast they 351 00:12:50,970 --> 00:12:54,660 were giving away dubs of the program as 352 00:12:52,950 --> 00:12:56,730 prizes to people who answered their 353 00:12:54,659 --> 00:12:58,589 trivia questions and today we got a fax 354 00:12:56,730 --> 00:13:00,870 from Arizona there was a group there 355 00:12:58,590 --> 00:13:02,879 that are charging 750 ahead for a 356 00:13:00,870 --> 00:13:04,740 viewing of the tape let's call it 357 00:13:02,879 --> 00:13:06,539 everywhere what's coming up in in coming 358 00:13:04,740 --> 00:13:08,340 days quite a bit of stuff we're going to 359 00:13:06,539 --> 00:13:10,559 dig deeper into the story told by Bob 360 00:13:08,340 --> 00:13:12,810 Lazar to see if there's any new evidence 361 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,129 to support what he told us we'll hear 362 00:13:12,809 --> 00:13:16,709 from what might be called the deep 363 00:13:14,129 --> 00:13:18,840 throat of the UFO world an intelligence 364 00:13:16,710 --> 00:13:20,370 agent nicknamed the Falcon will 365 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,660 investigate claims that the government 366 00:13:20,370 --> 00:13:23,039 actively spreads dis in four 367 00:13:21,659 --> 00:13:24,600 Meishan and will take a somewhat 368 00:13:23,039 --> 00:13:27,539 critical look at some of these UFO 369 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:29,460 prophets of doom and UFO groups to find 370 00:13:27,539 --> 00:13:32,599 out if they may have ulterior motives in 371 00:13:29,460 --> 00:13:32,600 spreading the word about this 28255

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