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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:30,664 --> 00:00:32,565 It was early in the morning 2 00:00:32,566 --> 00:00:34,267 on the streets of Philadelphia. 3 00:00:34,268 --> 00:00:36,068 It was freezing cold. 4 00:00:36,069 --> 00:00:39,138 And I just started to feel something welling inside. 5 00:00:39,139 --> 00:00:40,773 And they go, "Sly, are you ready?" 6 00:00:40,774 --> 00:00:43,142 I go, "I'm not. 7 00:00:43,143 --> 00:00:44,077 "But Rocky is." 8 00:01:32,159 --> 00:01:36,329 I was a complete unknown, even unknown to myself. 9 00:01:36,330 --> 00:01:37,663 And I had this idea. 10 00:01:37,664 --> 00:01:41,367 A lot of peo 11 00:01:41,368 --> 00:01:42,703 e were feeling kind of the way I was, going nowhere fast. 12 00:01:43,870 --> 00:01:46,473 And I didn't know whether I had it or not. 13 00:01:49,543 --> 00:01:52,411 So I wrote this story about an underdog, 14 00:01:52,412 --> 00:01:54,847 a person who wasn't very appreciated, 15 00:01:54,848 --> 00:01:59,285 and I was 16 00:01:59,286 --> 00:02:02,755 ven a break by United Artist and now, you had to put up or shut up, 17 00:02:02,756 --> 00:02:05,591 so I couldn't believe my good fortune 18 00:02:05,592 --> 00:02:08,394 and every day we'd go to the studio 19 00:02:08,395 --> 00:02:10,229 and work on the script a little bit. 20 00:02:10,230 --> 00:02:13,866 Of course, I had a bit of an odd personality I guess. 21 00:02:13,867 --> 00:02:17,637 Maybe I was born 22 00:02:17,638 --> 00:02:20,239 o play this part, I don't know, but it just seemed to fit into all the things 23 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,376 that I sort of believed in. 24 00:02:24,911 --> 00:02:26,746 Anyway, we started working on 25 00:02:26,747 --> 00:02:29,515 experimental ideas about boxing. 26 00:02:29,516 --> 00:02:31,417 There had been many boxing films like, 27 00:02:31,418 --> 00:02:34,720 maybe over 300 made in Hollywood 28 00:02:34,721 --> 00:02:36,789 and they weren't very successful so 29 00:02:36,790 --> 00:02:38,791 I couldn't believe my good luck here 30 00:02:38,792 --> 00:02:42,361 when they're doing a boxing film about this character. 31 00:02:42,362 --> 00:02:46,298 But the point is, it wasn't a boxing film. 32 00:02:46,299 --> 00:02:50,469 It was a story about obsolescence, 33 00:02:50,470 --> 00:02:53,172 about not getting an opportunity in life, 34 00:02:53,173 --> 00:02:53,440 and more importantly, eventually, a serious love story. 35 00:02:57,844 --> 00:03:00,379 And he happens to be a boxer. 36 00:03:00,380 --> 00:03:02,348 So the relationship comes a little bit later on 37 00:03:02,349 --> 00:03:04,284 but it's the key to the whole movie. 38 00:03:10,724 --> 00:03:12,391 John Avildsen in the background. 39 00:03:12,392 --> 00:03:14,226 He always took these, he's driving me crazy 40 00:03:14,227 --> 00:03:15,761 with these eight millimeter films 41 00:03:15,762 --> 00:03:17,730 but here we are, so I'm glad he did it. 42 00:03:17,731 --> 00:03:21,667 But at the time I thought, what a waste of film. 43 00:03:21,668 --> 00:03:24,503 Now, Mike Westmore, who was a great, great, great 44 00:03:24,504 --> 00:03:26,839 makeup artist, part of the Westmore family, 45 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,974 he started doing all of the experiments. 46 00:03:28,975 --> 00:03:31,411 Here again, I'm just overdoing everything. 47 00:03:32,512 --> 00:03:34,413 Makeup tests. 48 00:03:34,414 --> 00:03:37,917 And it was great, but I ended up with barely any eyebrows 49 00:03:37,918 --> 00:03:41,454 left the rest of my life, so there is that. 50 00:03:41,455 --> 00:03:43,956 At one time I actually wanted Rocky to look 51 00:03:43,957 --> 00:03:45,858 very, very punchy and I thought, 52 00:03:45,859 --> 00:03:48,794 why don't you glue my nose to the side of my face? 53 00:03:48,795 --> 00:03:51,964 So they got this kind of colostomy bad glue 54 00:03:51,965 --> 00:03:54,734 and it was so bad, it looked like a cartoon, 55 00:03:54,735 --> 00:03:57,570 like I had run into a wall like Gumby. 56 00:03:57,571 --> 00:03:57,738 So anyway as you can see, I took things to kind of extremes. 57 00:04:02,476 --> 00:04:05,612 I mean, it looks like a lost clam. 58 00:04:13,653 --> 00:04:15,554 We got lucky with Burgess Meredith 59 00:04:15,555 --> 00:04:19,592 who was a world class actor with 50 years experience 60 00:04:19,593 --> 00:04:21,761 and he took it very serious. 61 00:04:21,762 --> 00:04:24,997 He was f 62 00:04:24,998 --> 00:04:28,367 tastic and developed his characterthat was based on a real character 63 00:04:28,368 --> 00:04:30,603 and he had all the mannerisms. 64 00:04:30,604 --> 00:04:31,771 'Cause I did real good last night, 65 00:04:31,772 --> 00:04:33,005 and you should've seen me. 66 00:04:33,006 --> 00:04:34,306 Big deal. 67 00:04:34,307 --> 00:04:35,741 You should've seen me, too. 68 00:04:35,742 --> 00:04:37,376 Hey, kid. 69 00:04:37,377 --> 00:04:39,044 You ever think about retiring? 70 00:04:39,045 --> 00:04:40,412 No. 71 00:04:40,413 --> 00:04:41,914 You think about it. 72 00:04:41,915 --> 00:04:42,982 My friend Stan Shaw in the back. 73 00:04:42,983 --> 00:04:44,583 Great guy. 74 00:04:50,824 --> 00:04:52,758 I didn't know anything. 75 00:04:52,759 --> 00:04:56,462 You know, I talked a good game like, yeah, I'm a good boxer. 76 00:04:56,463 --> 00:04:59,366 I didn't know how to box anything, except maybe oranges. 77 00:05:00,066 --> 00:05:01,935 But I was willing to try. 78 00:05:05,739 --> 00:05:05,939 The character was not supposed to be a gifted fighter. 79 00:05:10,510 --> 00:05:12,745 He was gifted in other ways. 80 00:05:12,746 --> 00:05:15,781 He just could take an incredible amount of punishment, 81 00:05:15,782 --> 00:05:18,317 and he was fighting for an ideal. 82 00:05:18,318 --> 00:05:20,920 He had no allusions that he was a winner, 83 00:05:20,921 --> 00:05:23,089 he just wanted an opportunity. 84 00:05:28,762 --> 00:05:31,897 Then we came across this amazing guy, Carl Weathers, 85 00:05:31,898 --> 00:05:35,568 the gr 86 00:05:35,569 --> 00:05:37,369 test film boxer of all time. 87 00:05:37,370 --> 00:05:39,004 This man could move. 88 00:05:39,005 --> 00:05:42,708 Well, he was a world class athlete and a great actor, 89 00:05:42,709 --> 00:05:44,611 but God, could he move. 90 00:05:48,014 --> 00:05:50,749 This is us really beginning to figure it out. 91 00:05:50,750 --> 00:05:53,519 There was a situation happening. 92 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,021 They had hired a choreographer 93 00:05:56,022 --> 00:05:59,992 and the choreographer was used to doing old-fashioned films 94 00:05:59,993 --> 00:06:03,028 like you hit me, I hit you, you hit me, I hit you. 95 00:06:03,029 --> 00:06:07,733 And that's what was normally done in a closeup of two guys 96 00:06:07,734 --> 00:06:10,035 just sort of, as we say, shoe-shining. 97 00:06:10,036 --> 00:06:12,438 One-two, one-two, one-two, one-two. 98 00:06:12,439 --> 00:06:15,140 And I thought you know, let's try to do something different. 99 00:06:15,141 --> 00:06:17,076 Look who just popped up. 100 00:06:17,077 --> 00:06:18,711 My brother. 101 00:06:18,712 --> 00:06:20,880 He was a great singer, is a great singer, 102 00:06:20,881 --> 00:06:23,983 and I thought well, since I can't afford anyone else, 103 00:06:23,984 --> 00:06:25,050 I'll use him. 104 00:06:30,724 --> 00:06:32,892 Now here's him in the ring, 105 00:06:32,893 --> 00:06:35,594 really showing his love and appreciation for the job. 106 00:06:35,595 --> 00:06:38,831 Appreciate it, like start tackling me, knocking me down. 107 00:06:38,832 --> 00:06:40,566 Of course I'm trying to make him feel good here 108 00:06:40,567 --> 00:06:42,135 by getting a concussion. 109 00:06:47,107 --> 00:06:50,409 Back to Carl, he's improving a great deal. 110 00:06:50,410 --> 00:06:52,144 And I said to the stunt coordinator, 111 00:06:52,145 --> 00:06:53,746 I said, "Why doesn't Carl come out 112 00:06:53,747 --> 00:06:55,080 "and hit me like four jabs on the right? 113 00:06:55,081 --> 00:06:56,815 He goes, "That isn't the way it is." 114 00:06:56,816 --> 00:06:58,651 I said, "Well how about three jabs on the right?" 115 00:06:58,652 --> 00:07:00,619 He goes, "No, just follow my thing." 116 00:07:00,620 --> 00:07:03,789 I said, "Well, I wanna see something different." 117 00:07:03,790 --> 00:07:04,957 He goes, "Okay. 118 00:07:04,958 --> 00:07:06,091 "I quit." 119 00:07:06,092 --> 00:07:08,560 So he left, and I was stuck, 120 00:07:08,561 --> 00:07:12,631 and Irwin looked at me like hey, who are you to... 121 00:07:12,632 --> 00:07:14,733 Well this is the guy actually right before he left. 122 00:07:14,734 --> 00:07:17,569 His name was I think Stackler or something like that. 123 00:07:17,570 --> 00:07:19,204 Nice guy, but he had his 124 00:07:19,205 --> 00:07:21,140 old-fashioned way of doing something, 125 00:07:21,141 --> 00:07:25,144 and I wanted it to look as close to real as possible, 126 00:07:25,145 --> 00:07:27,112 and usually boxing films, 127 00:07:27,113 --> 00:07:31,517 the actors really were not in any kind of great shape 128 00:07:31,518 --> 00:07:33,552 and they didn't work any kind of choreography, 129 00:07:33,553 --> 00:07:36,088 it was sort of done on the fly. 130 00:07:36,089 --> 00:07:37,756 You hit me, I hit you, 131 00:07:37,757 --> 00:07:39,491 and no one was ever in really excellent shape 132 00:07:39,492 --> 00:07:41,894 so we started writing it up. 133 00:07:41,895 --> 00:07:44,930 The director said hey, why don't you write it out? 134 00:07:44,931 --> 00:07:47,833 And I thought okay, you mean like a dance? 135 00:07:47,834 --> 00:07:49,202 Absolutely like a dance. 136 00:07:51,604 --> 00:07:53,706 Then we hired Jimmy Nickerson 137 00:07:53,707 --> 00:07:56,508 and he got in some semi-pros here 138 00:07:56,509 --> 00:07:59,511 who blocked out the actual real boxing 139 00:07:59,512 --> 00:08:01,046 and I would study it and go 140 00:08:01,047 --> 00:08:03,550 that's believable, that's believable. 141 00:08:05,986 --> 00:08:08,087 And then I started to borrow things from the world's greatest fights 142 00:08:08,088 --> 00:08:11,957 and condense them into moments in our film. 143 00:08:11,958 --> 00:08:14,093 So everything you've ever seen in Rocky 144 00:08:14,094 --> 00:08:15,694 has actually happened before. 145 00:08:15,695 --> 00:08:17,696 In the back there's famous Gene LeBell, 146 00:08:17,697 --> 00:08:20,867 world famous stuntman and Judo champion. 147 00:08:24,270 --> 00:08:26,238 This is all practice footage, 148 00:08:26,239 --> 00:08:28,007 and he's working on Jimmy Nickerson 149 00:08:28,008 --> 00:08:30,876 who insists on him actually hitting him a lot, 150 00:08:30,877 --> 00:08:33,512 which I don't know what was going through Jimmy's head. 151 00:08:33,513 --> 00:08:35,081 He actually did get knocked out. 152 00:08:36,216 --> 00:08:39,084 There's Gene LeBell practicing. 153 00:08:39,085 --> 00:08:41,153 He's overacting as his 154 00:08:41,154 --> 00:08:43,088 as a referee. 155 00:08:43,089 --> 00:08:45,858 I never 156 00:08:45,859 --> 00:08:46,793 w a referee get into a full squat, but why not? 157 00:08:50,964 --> 00:08:53,866 This is footage that was never seen in the movie. 158 00:08:53,867 --> 00:08:55,601 It was supposed to be in the movie. 159 00:08:55,602 --> 00:08:59,705 Rocky is watching Apollo knock all these people out. 160 00:08:59,706 --> 00:09:01,940 Mickey is going, "You don't have a chance," basically. 161 00:09:01,941 --> 00:09:04,743 This is a real fighter named Sonny Shields, 162 00:09:04,744 --> 00:09:08,147 father of the world class fighter named Randy Shields. 163 00:09:08,148 --> 00:09:10,215 He thought Carl was just an actor, 164 00:09:10,216 --> 00:09:14,119 I said he's a powerful man, and he blasted him, 165 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,157 and eventually knocked him down again, for real. 166 00:09:21,094 --> 00:09:24,129 We never used this footage, which is unfortunate. 167 00:09:24,130 --> 00:09:25,898 It was a work in progress. 168 00:09:25,899 --> 00:09:30,102 So in between setups, I would constantly be re-writing 169 00:09:30,103 --> 00:09:32,805 and re-writing 170 00:09:32,806 --> 00:09:35,707 and trying to make this thing work 171 00:09:35,708 --> 00:09:38,343 for the budget that we had, which was nothing. 172 00:09:38,344 --> 00:09:40,879 And our locations were pretty, 173 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,681 you know, pretty sparse. 174 00:09:42,682 --> 00:09:46,252 But you know, I think that worked out for the best. 175 00:09:51,057 --> 00:09:53,158 I hadn't figured out Rocky's color combination, 176 00:09:53,159 --> 00:09:53,960 so this is just us practicing basically choreography 177 00:09:58,131 --> 00:10:00,232 and makeup tests. 178 00:10:00,233 --> 00:10:02,734 And you can see like the ropes hanging on the ground. 179 00:10:02,735 --> 00:10:04,136 This was again, just for us, 180 00:10:04,137 --> 00:10:06,738 too much smoke or too much makeup, 181 00:10:06,739 --> 00:10:07,840 we were trying to figure out. 182 00:10:07,841 --> 00:10:09,608 Like this. 183 00:10:09,609 --> 00:10:11,143 Hey, anybody want a hamburger? 184 00:10:11,144 --> 00:10:12,112 How you doin'? 185 00:10:13,346 --> 00:10:15,614 Like, little bit of overacting 186 00:10:15,615 --> 00:10:17,917 putting the cart in front of the horse here. 187 00:10:22,722 --> 00:10:25,023 I think Carl again, this was mostly a makeup test. 188 00:10:25,024 --> 00:10:26,325 This place was freezing by the way, 189 00:10:26,326 --> 00:10:28,761 it was in the dead of winter, so. 190 00:10:30,763 --> 00:10:34,933 It was not conducive to moving around a lot. 191 00:10:34,934 --> 00:10:37,169 But again, we did what we could 192 00:10:37,170 --> 00:10:39,806 because we were borrowing the Olympic Auditorium. 193 00:10:43,076 --> 00:10:45,744 And we're seeing how close we could get with the punches. 194 00:10:45,745 --> 00:10:47,913 Those are actual eight ounce gloves 195 00:10:47,914 --> 00:10:49,948 that are not doctored up, 196 00:10:49,949 --> 00:10:52,852 and when you get hit with them, it's... 197 00:10:54,020 --> 00:10:58,056 My eye is closed, your depth perception 198 00:10:58,057 --> 00:10:59,758 is way off. 199 00:10:59,759 --> 00:11:03,162 So this is what these rehearsals helped with, 200 00:11:03,163 --> 00:11:05,665 figuring out what works and what doesn't work. 201 00:11:10,069 --> 00:11:11,403 There's my father. 202 00:11:11,404 --> 00:11:14,806 We're sitting around before the film 203 00:11:14,807 --> 00:11:18,977 kind of figuring out theúlogistics with the set designer 204 00:11:18,978 --> 00:11:21,847 and it was great to be part of all of this. 205 00:11:21,848 --> 00:11:24,249 I didn't know what I was doing, but it sounded good 206 00:11:24,250 --> 00:11:25,884 and it looked good. 207 00:11:25,885 --> 00:11:28,887 And we were pretty passionate about it. 208 00:11:28,888 --> 00:11:30,289 But really there's something good 209 00:11:30,290 --> 00:11:31,990 about not knowing everything, 210 00:11:31,991 --> 00:11:35,127 you're just throwing yourself headlong into it. 211 00:11:35,128 --> 00:11:38,096 Made my father the bell ringer, that was interesting. 212 00:11:38,097 --> 00:11:40,199 He'd always ring the bell about 20 seconds late 213 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,067 and I would take a beating. 214 00:11:42,068 --> 00:11:44,871 And I kept going, is this kind of Freudian by any chance? 215 00:11:46,306 --> 00:11:49,709 That's me wearing my incredibly expensive York shirt. 216 00:11:50,910 --> 00:11:53,245 Kind of hung up on the tank tops at the time, 217 00:11:53,246 --> 00:11:54,180 I don't know why. 218 00:12:02,255 --> 00:12:04,823 Storyboards are something I'd never seen before. 219 00:12:04,824 --> 00:12:06,425 It was very interesting. 220 00:12:06,426 --> 00:12:09,228 It was laid out what we were supposed to do. 221 00:12:09,229 --> 00:12:11,930 This whole kind of ritual of two men 222 00:12:11,931 --> 00:12:13,799 getting ready to face one another, 223 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,168 Rocky being incredibly inferior 224 00:12:16,169 --> 00:12:20,306 and Carl, or Apollo Creed, just taking it as another day 225 00:12:21,774 --> 00:12:24,943 in the life of a champion, no big deal. 226 00:12:24,944 --> 00:12:27,012 But all these maneuvers here like the Vick's 227 00:12:27,013 --> 00:12:29,047 and the greasing up, this is pretty much 228 00:12:29,048 --> 00:12:32,185 what we were taught by authentic trainers. 229 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,421 Rocky knows he's basically going to get slaughtered 230 00:12:36,422 --> 00:12:39,825 so he's just praying he doesn't get hurt too much. 231 00:12:39,826 --> 00:12:42,160 And Carl, this is the first time we actually see him 232 00:12:42,161 --> 00:12:44,964 get serious in the film as Apollo Creed. 233 00:12:48,401 --> 00:12:49,935 You won't believe this camera. 234 00:12:49,936 --> 00:12:51,804 This is so gigantic. 235 00:12:53,339 --> 00:12:56,808 Everything we had was, I don't know, 236 00:12:56,809 --> 00:12:58,777 just scraping things together. 237 00:12:58,778 --> 00:13:02,481 This gigantic camera, that we had to lash to the car. 238 00:13:02,482 --> 00:13:04,250 They don't even exist anymore. 239 00:13:11,090 --> 00:13:13,025 This fella here, his name was Jimmy Gambina, 240 00:13:13,026 --> 00:13:15,494 he was also a trainer, his father's a trainer, 241 00:13:15,495 --> 00:13:17,162 and I thought I'd put him in a movie 242 00:13:17,163 --> 00:13:19,331 'cause he was really some kind of character. 243 00:13:19,332 --> 00:13:20,932 And it worked out. 244 00:13:20,933 --> 00:13:22,067 Don't you think you oughta take a rest? 245 00:13:22,068 --> 00:13:23,301 No, my back is hurt. 246 00:13:23,302 --> 00:13:24,203 Your back? 247 00:13:24,203 --> 00:13:25,004 My back is hurt. 248 00:13:25,005 --> 00:13:26,171 You deaf? 249 00:13:26,172 --> 00:13:27,173 No, I'm short. 250 00:13:30,810 --> 00:13:32,377 As I was getting prepared again, 251 00:13:32,378 --> 00:13:35,114 me being very mature between takes, 252 00:13:37,483 --> 00:13:39,918 this is how I prepare for a movie, by chasing Adrian with a meat cleaver. 253 00:13:39,919 --> 00:13:43,588 You think it's a little odd perhaps. 254 00:13:43,589 --> 00:13:45,824 We tried to keep it loose. 255 00:13:45,825 --> 00:13:49,061 It was a lot of fun in a way, and I tend to 256 00:13:49,062 --> 00:13:49,862 ot want to walk around all moody, and I just try to 257 00:13:54,434 --> 00:13:56,501 keep it relaxed 'cause if you're relaxed, 258 00:13:56,502 --> 00:13:58,437 the rest of the crew is relaxed. 259 00:13:58,438 --> 00:14:00,305 And then you turn it on when you have to, 260 00:14:00,306 --> 00:14:03,909 so you can see me with Joe Spinell who played Mr. Gazzo 261 00:14:03,910 --> 00:14:06,445 and John Avildsen, makeup man Mike Westmore, 262 00:14:06,446 --> 00:14:08,481 and we're just having a good time. 263 00:14:10,917 --> 00:14:12,984 That hat was a real bone of contention. 264 00:14:12,985 --> 00:14:15,020 Nobody wanted me to wear the hat. 265 00:14:15,021 --> 00:14:16,988 They wanted me to just be, you know, bareheaded. 266 00:14:16,989 --> 00:14:18,523 I go, 267 00:14:18,524 --> 00:14:20,292 So there was a store there and I bought the hat, 268 00:14:20,293 --> 00:14:21,960 there's the director's children, 269 00:14:21,961 --> 00:14:23,995 bought that hat for like $3 270 00:14:23,996 --> 00:14:26,031 and I wanna wear the hat. 271 00:14:26,032 --> 00:14:27,499 And the producer goes, "You can't wear this hat." 272 00:14:27,500 --> 00:14:28,401 and I go, "Why?" 273 00:14:28,402 --> 00:14:30,068 He says, "Because, 274 00:14:30,069 --> 00:14:32,037 "Gene Hackman wore it in French Connection." 275 00:14:32,038 --> 00:14:33,939 I says, "So, that's the end of hats? 276 00:14:33,940 --> 00:14:35,474 "So, hats are banned?" 277 00:14:35,475 --> 00:14:37,976 I said, "It kind of tops off the character." 278 00:14:37,977 --> 00:14:41,446 And I just went ahead and used the hat. 279 00:14:41,447 --> 00:14:43,115 I'd never seen a hat like it, 280 00:14:43,116 --> 00:14:45,250 it was like this cheap, felt, cardboard hat, 281 00:14:45,251 --> 00:14:47,953 but it just worked perfectly, 282 00:14:47,954 --> 00:14:50,922 and I think made a great impression on the character. 283 00:14:50,923 --> 00:14:54,493 I think it just set the whole thing like a suit of armor. 284 00:14:54,494 --> 00:14:58,463 It was a costume that he was sort of hiding behind. 285 00:14:58,464 --> 00:15:00,398 And then when you see him put on the glasses 286 00:15:00,399 --> 00:15:03,335 like they should realize, he's not this real tough specimen, 287 00:15:03,336 --> 00:15:06,305 he's kind of nerdy in a way. 288 00:15:10,109 --> 00:15:14,580 Yeah, this is us in between takes, just hanging out. 289 00:15:16,916 --> 00:15:18,617 This is a scene that was amazing. 290 00:15:18,618 --> 00:15:20,552 I wrote it for 300 extras. 291 00:15:20,553 --> 00:15:24,389 And Adrian was s 292 00:15:24,390 --> 00:15:27,159 posed to be taken out on the ice by this incredible ice skater and he's showing off 293 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,927 and I'm sort of humiliated 294 00:15:28,928 --> 00:15:33,231 and then I get into sort of a beef with the fella. 295 00:15:33,232 --> 00:15:35,000 I show up on the set, they said, 296 00:15:35,001 --> 00:15:37,202 "Well, we've had to cut the extras back a little bit." 297 00:15:37,203 --> 00:15:38,137 I go, "To what?" 298 00:15:38,138 --> 00:15:39,437 He goes, "To none." 299 00:15:39,438 --> 00:15:40,539 You're kidding me! 300 00:15:40,540 --> 00:15:42,674 How about a heads up? 301 00:15:42,675 --> 00:15:46,111 So I went back and I started re-writing immediately 302 00:15:46,112 --> 00:15:50,348 and, well, the proof is in the pudding. 303 00:15:50,349 --> 00:15:52,984 It became just the two of us on the ice 304 00:15:52,985 --> 00:15:57,522 and since I can't ice skate, Rocky runs alongside of her. 305 00:15:57,523 --> 00:15:59,591 That's George Memmoli who was a great character, 306 00:15:59,592 --> 00:16:01,326 actor and a friend, 307 00:16:01,327 --> 00:16:04,262 and it turned out to be a thousand times better 308 00:16:04,263 --> 00:16:07,032 if there had been a big, big crowd here. 309 00:16:07,033 --> 00:16:11,236 So, again, taking the negative and making it a positive. 310 00:16:11,237 --> 00:16:13,271 Got very lucky on that day. 311 00:16:13,272 --> 00:16:17,075 But that scene sort of set the tone for Rocky's first date. 312 00:16:17,076 --> 00:16:20,245 He wasn't used to you know, being very... 313 00:16:20,246 --> 00:16:22,247 Well we'll just say sophisticated, 314 00:16:22,248 --> 00:16:26,351 but I think that was part of his charm was his honesty. 315 00:16:26,352 --> 00:16:28,086 No it's okay, it's okay. 316 00:16:28,087 --> 00:16:29,654 Hey listen, are you closed to the general public, 317 00:16:29,655 --> 00:16:31,657 or are you just closed to everybody, you know what I mean? 318 00:16:33,559 --> 00:16:36,428 You can see here, we really struggling. 319 00:16:36,429 --> 00:16:40,732 She was not exactly you know, Ice Capades either. 320 00:16:40,733 --> 00:16:42,334 We're just struggling out there which I thought 321 00:16:42,335 --> 00:16:45,170 kind of reflected on who they were, too. 322 00:16:45,171 --> 00:16:50,208 It's like, neither one of them is very graceful in life. 323 00:16:50,209 --> 00:16:54,179 But together, they're a perfect fit, they really really are. 324 00:16:54,180 --> 00:16:57,349 I almost b 325 00:16:57,350 --> 00:16:59,084 ke my neck on this about 10 times. This turned out to be very, very good. 326 00:16:59,085 --> 00:17:01,586 You can see where John's rehearsals 327 00:17:01,587 --> 00:17:04,656 were absolutely duplicated in reality, 328 00:17:04,657 --> 00:17:06,158 so it was a perfect thing. 329 00:17:07,426 --> 00:17:09,795 I tell you, things get pretty rough in the rink. 330 00:17:13,266 --> 00:17:17,168 Again, this is the makeup with Mike Westmore 331 00:17:17,169 --> 00:17:18,670 and we'd be running lines here. 332 00:17:18,671 --> 00:17:21,373 So we've hit the ground running. 333 00:17:21,374 --> 00:17:23,675 I like to learn a lot of dialogue 334 00:17:23,676 --> 00:17:26,411 a long time before the production 335 00:17:26,412 --> 00:17:29,748 so you can let it go and ad lib 336 00:17:29,749 --> 00:17:31,650 and then come back to the script. 337 00:17:31,651 --> 00:17:35,587 And Burgess, who's a classically trained actor and I wasn't, 338 00:17:35,588 --> 00:17:37,756 was totally on board with that. 339 00:17:37,757 --> 00:17:40,258 And he was just fantastic. 340 00:17:40,259 --> 00:17:43,128 He's really a consummate performer. 341 00:17:43,129 --> 00:17:44,596 I didn't realize it at the time 342 00:17:44,597 --> 00:17:46,231 'cause I had never worked with anyone that good, 343 00:17:46,232 --> 00:17:49,669 but now, as I reflect on it, one of the greatest. 344 00:17:52,371 --> 00:17:55,240 This was an actual apartment, believe it or not, 345 00:17:55,241 --> 00:17:59,110 and I thought we should add some things that are a bit odd, 346 00:17:59,111 --> 00:18:02,414 like a mattress stuck to the wall full of bayonets. 347 00:18:02,415 --> 00:18:05,250 Don't explain it, just, that's the way he lives. 348 00:18:05,251 --> 00:18:07,687 And a bowl full of turtles and so on. 349 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,568 We couldn't afford a hose to wet down the street, 350 00:18:23,569 --> 00:18:25,671 so we'd do it by buckets. 351 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,209 Rocky solidifies his relationship with Mickey 352 00:18:31,210 --> 00:18:34,512 after a tempestuous brawl a few moments earlier 353 00:18:34,513 --> 00:18:37,716 where he just unloaded on Mickey about being ignored. 354 00:18:37,717 --> 00:18:39,284 But that's what made the character, 355 00:18:39,285 --> 00:18:40,819 he's just always forgiving. 356 00:18:40,820 --> 00:18:44,723 This 357 00:18:44,724 --> 00:18:46,658 s my friend Gene Kirkwood, he was very, very important in having the film actually made. 358 00:18:46,659 --> 00:18:49,128 And Burt Young, who was fantastic. 359 00:18:54,667 --> 00:18:58,837 We start in Philadelphia and we end up here, this is L.A., 360 00:18:58,838 --> 00:19:02,307 running along the side of the meat packing place. 361 00:19:02,308 --> 00:19:02,708 I don't know exactly why I wrote in a slider house, 362 00:19:07,179 --> 00:19:10,515 but it was just an idea. 363 00:19:10,516 --> 00:19:14,419 Like boxers are considered meat, you know, 364 00:19:14,420 --> 00:19:17,255 we don't think of them as you know, 365 00:19:17,256 --> 00:19:19,624 regular human beings, but they are. 366 00:19:19,625 --> 00:19:20,925 They have a lot of heart and soul, 367 00:19:20,926 --> 00:19:23,728 they're not just flesh to be hit upon. 368 00:19:23,729 --> 00:19:27,232 And so that was somewhat a symbolic move, 369 00:19:27,233 --> 00:19:29,635 a little heavy-handed but I think it worked. 370 00:19:34,407 --> 00:19:37,809 And here we are outside. 371 00:19:37,810 --> 00:19:41,713 Yeah, with my dog Butkus which was actually my dog 372 00:19:41,714 --> 00:19:45,216 and I thought Rocky and the dog looked very much alike, 373 00:19:45,217 --> 00:19:47,185 so I wanted him in the movie. 374 00:19:47,186 --> 00:19:49,554 And I thought it again added a little bit of character 375 00:19:49,555 --> 00:19:52,491 to who Rocky was, and it was a gift from Adrian. 376 00:19:55,361 --> 00:19:57,862 This is a scene that was made up on the spot. 377 00:19:57,863 --> 00:19:59,597 What's that, Butkus? 378 00:19:59,598 --> 00:20:00,698 Whose truck is this? 379 00:20:00,699 --> 00:20:02,200 Come on. 380 00:20:02,201 --> 00:20:03,768 I was supposed to just be in there. 381 00:20:03,769 --> 00:20:05,937 I thought, you know, it'd be great if he just shows up 382 00:20:05,938 --> 00:20:08,640 and there's Burt saying, "Hey, hope you don't mind, 383 00:20:08,641 --> 00:20:11,576 "I called your television network, 384 00:20:11,577 --> 00:20:14,579 "and I'm basically here to embarrass you." 385 00:20:14,580 --> 00:20:16,581 And of course, Rocky takes it in stride 386 00:20:16,582 --> 00:20:19,618 and goes along with it 'cause he's that kind of a guy. 387 00:20:25,491 --> 00:20:26,591 This place was so magical. 388 00:20:26,592 --> 00:20:28,526 I mean just these streets, 389 00:20:28,527 --> 00:20:30,962 I go back there every now and then. 390 00:20:30,963 --> 00:20:32,664 It's amazing. 391 00:20:32,665 --> 00:20:35,300 They're so small, so narrow, so claustrophobic, 392 00:20:35,301 --> 00:20:38,436 the terrain is just so graphically interesting. 393 00:20:38,437 --> 00:20:39,371 Yo. 394 00:20:40,606 --> 00:20:42,307 Yo. 395 00:20:42,308 --> 00:20:43,875 Yo, you look great. 396 00:20:43,876 --> 00:20:46,811 And then, right here, this is where she just exploded. 397 00:20:46,812 --> 00:20:49,614 I mean, she became Cinderella. 398 00:20:49,615 --> 00:20:51,483 This is what he saw. 399 00:20:51,484 --> 00:20:53,618 When he's here to pesh up, everyone else saw this homely, 400 00:20:53,619 --> 00:20:55,453 very, very shy woman. 401 00:20:55,454 --> 00:20:58,823 He saw really a beautiful person, inside and out. 402 00:20:58,824 --> 00:21:01,727 And she really sold it in that moment. 403 00:21:04,363 --> 00:21:05,664 This is the game changer. 404 00:21:06,966 --> 00:21:08,800 This man's name is Garrett Brown, he's an inventor, 405 00:21:08,801 --> 00:21:11,836 he lives in Philadelphia and just out of luck, 406 00:21:11,837 --> 00:21:14,606 he goes, "I got this camera called the Steadicam." 407 00:21:14,607 --> 00:21:17,275 I go, "Excuse me?" It kinda looks like a vacuum cleaner. 408 00:21:17,276 --> 00:21:19,811 But no, this thing was amazing. 409 00:21:19,812 --> 00:21:24,048 You could run as fast as you could, be on a bouncy truck, 410 00:21:24,049 --> 00:21:27,452 yet the picture is incredibly level. 411 00:21:27,453 --> 00:21:30,421 And here we are in this very, very inexpensive film 412 00:21:30,422 --> 00:21:33,424 using a revolutionary camera, which really, 413 00:21:33,425 --> 00:21:35,560 basically revolutionized the business 414 00:21:35,561 --> 00:21:38,329 and is used probably on every movie there is 415 00:21:38,330 --> 00:21:39,664 around the world. 416 00:21:39,665 --> 00:21:40,633 Extraordinary. 417 00:21:46,038 --> 00:21:48,039 Yeah, fight night. 418 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,609 Carl 419 00:21:51,610 --> 00:21:53,778 we had this idea of him being Uncle Sam. I thought, we're gonna push the envelope here. 420 00:21:53,779 --> 00:21:56,014 This probably was so much out of our budget 421 00:21:56,015 --> 00:21:57,549 we could barely afford it. 422 00:21:57,550 --> 00:21:58,850 The robe they made for me 423 00:21:58,851 --> 00:22:00,785 was for a guy who was six foot five 424 00:22:00,786 --> 00:22:02,820 but again, we work it into the movie. 425 00:22:02,821 --> 00:22:04,756 "Don't you think this robe is kind of baggy?" 426 00:22:04,757 --> 00:22:06,959 "It looks great, don't worry about it." 427 00:22:11,997 --> 00:22:13,598 We don't have many extras, 428 00:22:13,599 --> 00:22:15,633 so the camera angles are very, very important 429 00:22:15,634 --> 00:22:17,435 to be shooting up 430 00:22:17,436 --> 00:22:18,937 and these little lights which you see in the background 431 00:22:18,938 --> 00:22:21,773 which add depth of field, these Christmas lights, 432 00:22:21,774 --> 00:22:23,775 they're very effective. 433 00:22:23,776 --> 00:22:28,780 And out here, we're starting out working on the choreography 434 00:22:28,781 --> 00:22:32,116 that eventually will be almost punch for punch 435 00:22:32,117 --> 00:22:36,087 exactly what happens in the final product. 436 00:22:36,088 --> 00:22:38,856 So it's interesting to see how, bam bam. 437 00:22:42,661 --> 00:22:43,596 It worked! 438 00:22:43,597 --> 00:22:44,963 I mean, it was shocking. 439 00:22:44,964 --> 00:22:47,632 I enjoy seeing this here. 440 00:22:47,633 --> 00:22:49,000 Of course, you never know when you get out there. 441 00:22:49,001 --> 00:22:51,736 It could be the biggest waste of time 442 00:22:51,737 --> 00:22:53,838 and you go it looks really phony, 443 00:22:53,839 --> 00:22:57,409 but we're able to take it from the gym 444 00:22:58,544 --> 00:23:00,445 where you didn't know, I mean, 445 00:23:00,446 --> 00:23:02,714 you have to understand, we didn't know what we were doing. 446 00:23:02,715 --> 00:23:05,583 No one ever rehearsed for months and months and months 447 00:23:05,584 --> 00:23:07,018 and months and months. 448 00:23:07,019 --> 00:23:09,721 And boxing films weren't very, very popular, 449 00:23:09,722 --> 00:23:12,557 so I thought, are we just really wasting our time? 450 00:23:12,558 --> 00:23:15,026 Or is this actually going to translate into something? 451 00:23:15,027 --> 00:23:17,128 So every day you go in there, 452 00:23:17,129 --> 00:23:20,565 I hope this is just not gonna be an embarrassment. 453 00:23:20,566 --> 00:23:23,668 From that little gym, it worked in the big picture. 454 00:23:23,669 --> 00:23:25,570 Punch for punch. 455 00:23:25,571 --> 00:23:29,008 And we were able to do this time and time and time again, 456 00:23:32,878 --> 00:23:35,947 ich is why I always advocate for a long, long, long rehearsal for boxing films. 457 00:23:35,948 --> 00:23:38,583 And most people don't do it. 458 00:23:38,584 --> 00:23:40,485 It's well worth the effort. 459 00:23:44,857 --> 00:23:45,791 He can't even get his gloves up 460 00:23:45,792 --> 00:23:47,458 to protect himself. 461 00:23:47,459 --> 00:23:49,093 Here's Carl just laying it on me. 462 00:23:49,996 --> 00:23:51,562 Beautiful. 463 00:23:51,563 --> 00:23:54,165 His timing is amazing, it really is. 464 00:23:54,166 --> 00:23:55,900 The canvas was interesting. 465 00:23:55,901 --> 00:23:58,536 We designed these stars which was reminiscent 466 00:23:58,537 --> 00:23:59,972 of Apollo Creed's trunks. 467 00:24:19,458 --> 00:24:22,961 The acting started six months earlier in the gym, 468 00:24:22,962 --> 00:24:25,764 and you're just hoping it works there. 469 00:24:29,468 --> 00:24:31,569 We've been building up to this, right here. 470 00:24:31,570 --> 00:24:33,137 This is the harder part. 471 00:24:33,138 --> 00:24:36,641 How do you keep the audience engaged with the drama 472 00:24:36,642 --> 00:24:38,076 that these men are going through, 473 00:24:38,077 --> 00:24:40,878 and the trauma what they're going through. 474 00:24:48,654 --> 00:24:52,023 This I believe is after the show. 475 00:24:52,024 --> 00:24:53,891 We're all pretty much wrapped up 476 00:24:53,892 --> 00:24:55,960 and having a little bit of barbecue 477 00:24:55,961 --> 00:24:58,964 with John and his children. 478 00:25:01,033 --> 00:25:03,102 In my Howdy Doody shirt. 479 00:25:05,637 --> 00:25:07,805 This is I guess, yeah, 480 00:25:07,806 --> 00:25:10,208 it has to be probably while we're editing 481 00:25:10,209 --> 00:25:11,809 because my hair is longer in this part. 482 00:25:11,810 --> 00:25:13,011 This is great. 483 00:25:18,050 --> 00:25:20,685 We tried to keep this as free to the core, 484 00:25:20,686 --> 00:25:21,819 this kind of family group. 485 00:25:21,820 --> 00:25:24,222 Bill Conti, who I cannot express 486 00:25:24,223 --> 00:25:25,990 how important he was to this movie. 487 00:25:25,991 --> 00:25:28,693 His music just took it to another level. 488 00:25:28,694 --> 00:25:31,829 Yeah, classical music in an un-classical film. 489 00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:33,865 Very interesting dynamic. 490 00:25:33,866 --> 00:25:37,035 They wan 491 00:25:37,036 --> 00:25:39,804 d to put in rock music at one time and was talking about even Jimi Hendrix 492 00:25:39,805 --> 00:25:43,275 and bringing in Bill, he figured it all out. 493 00:25:53,886 --> 00:25:55,720 There's John's children 494 00:25:55,721 --> 00:25:56,655 Hey Rufus. 495 00:26:01,326 --> 00:26:03,928 I believe we opened up in maybe two theaters 496 00:26:03,929 --> 00:26:07,199 and this is the place where I was an usher 497 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,134 several years earlier. 498 00:26:10,135 --> 00:26:12,003 Two doors away at the Baronette, 499 00:26:12,004 --> 00:26:14,606 and I would also work over there at Cinema 2. 500 00:26:15,908 --> 00:26:18,176 And now I'm back with a film. 501 00:26:18,177 --> 00:26:21,612 That was my beloved manager Jane Oliver. 502 00:26:21,613 --> 00:26:22,680 She was great. 503 00:26:22,681 --> 00:26:24,615 And then John with his son. 504 00:26:24,616 --> 00:26:28,786 And the irony of being in this movie theater 505 00:26:28,787 --> 00:26:30,822 where I used to go back and forth with my brother 506 00:26:30,823 --> 00:26:32,657 there all the time 507 00:26:32,658 --> 00:26:35,193 and he was singing on the corner and I'm carrying tickets 508 00:26:35,194 --> 00:26:38,896 and now I'm in the theater, I'm on the marquis. 509 00:26:38,897 --> 00:26:40,298 How did this happen? 510 00:26:40,299 --> 00:26:41,233 It's amazing. 511 00:26:42,768 --> 00:26:46,805 And this was in also on the West Coast, in Westwood. 512 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,211 In one year, my life exploded for the better. 513 00:26:53,312 --> 00:26:55,246 So I tell people, you never know. 514 00:26:55,247 --> 00:26:55,981 You just never, never know if you're gonna hit the lottery. 515 00:27:00,152 --> 00:27:01,986 You just gotta k 516 00:27:01,987 --> 00:27:03,355 p buying tickets, you gotta keep going for it. 517 00:27:04,823 --> 00:27:07,226 Yeah, I used to cut my own hair, I know, I know. 518 00:27:08,894 --> 00:27:10,394 Don't comment on it. 519 00:27:10,395 --> 00:27:12,730 I was too cheap to hire a barber at the time. 520 00:27:12,731 --> 00:27:13,999 I didn't know any better. 521 00:27:15,801 --> 00:27:18,035 Here on the lobby just greeting customers. 522 00:27:18,036 --> 00:27:21,205 I felt like hey, thank you for showing up. 523 00:27:21,206 --> 00:27:22,874 I didn't know how long it was going to last, 524 00:27:22,875 --> 00:27:25,743 I didn't know it was going to be successful. 525 00:27:25,744 --> 00:27:28,913 Yo 526 00:27:28,914 --> 00:27:31,149 re a very lucky person when you can find outthe best friend you ever had is some character 527 00:27:31,150 --> 00:27:33,684 that just popped out of your mind, 528 00:27:33,685 --> 00:27:36,254 someone who was always there when things got rough 529 00:27:36,255 --> 00:27:38,156 and never quit on you. 530 00:27:38,157 --> 00:27:40,993 That's what I look at Rocky as, my best friend. 531 00:27:45,898 --> 00:27:49,967 And the winner is, Rocky, 532 00:27:49,968 --> 00:27:53,204 Irwin Winkler and Robert Chartoff 533 00:27:53,205 --> 00:27:56,073 To all the Rockys in the world, I love you.41462

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