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Amy:
There's like a lot of chaos.
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Death is here.
Yeah, death is very here.
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Let's just call it
a house of pain.
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This energy
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was just mean, evil.
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Reached in and grabbed my neck.
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It looked like a huge man,
maybe six foot, eight.
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So he can jump the living.
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I told you it was trying
to kill me!
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Joe: There's some
bad juju out here.
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I'm hearing the
devil's triangle.
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My name is amy allan.
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I see dead people.
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I think he
might have been a stalker.
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I speak to dead people.
And they speak to me.
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He will kill you.
He has killed people.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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They're being possessed.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm steve dischiavi.
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I'm a retired new york city
homicide detective.
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How many people died here
over the years?
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And I know every person,
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every house has secrets.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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But steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate during
an investigation.
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...Until the very end.
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This sketch is like a nightmare.
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When we uncover if it's safe
for you to stay...
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I never thought that
the biggest problem was me.
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...Or time to get out.
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He could more than likely
kill you.
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[ voices whispering ]
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♪♪
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steve:
I'm out here in marana, arizona.
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It's about 25 minutes
outside of tucson.
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A woman named mercedez
called us in.
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She sounded hysterical
and says whatever's in the house
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is trying destroy her marriage
and kill her husband.
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She told me she thinks we're
her very last chance.
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Amy: I'm getting a male.
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He says he was running and
running for a very long time.
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Uh, he said he died because
the sun killed him
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and the desert ate him.
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Then he shows me that he's being
surrounded by men.
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They all created a perfect
circle around him.
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So all of these men in unison
jump and when they land,
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all of a sudden a hole opens
up and this guy just
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starts falling.
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So mercedez, this is
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really a beautiful place.
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It's peaceful.
You got animals everywhere.
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But when we spoke,
it sounded like
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you're living in hell over here.
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It looks so beautiful here,
and it is,
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but there's so much pain
in that house.
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Let's just call it
a house of pain.
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When we spoke on the phone,
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you'd mentioned about your
marriage being on the rocks.
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Okay.
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What's going on with the
marriage?
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I love joe.
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I love him to pieces, but
the things that have happened,
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um, I feel like something
takes over him.
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It's okay.
Take your time.
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Mercedez: I'm sorry.
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Bad things have been said to
me that have hurt me so bad.
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We can't even, like, talk,
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or we can't even
be in the same room.
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Listen, we're here now.
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We'll do our best.
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I can promise you that.
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Okay, mercedez,
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so is it just you and joe
in the house?
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No, I have a picture.
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That's my husband, joe,
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and this is my son, tristan,
who's 21.
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And that's his dad,
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my former husband, mark.
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Your former husband lives here.
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Yes, my former husband
lives here with my son.
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And you're sure the marriage
problems ain't
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because you got
an ex-husband living here?
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Yes.
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You think that's from
the paranormal?
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I know it's from the paranormal.
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Okay. Is there a reason
your ex is
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living here with you and your
husband?
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Yes. A tornado,
of all things,
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hit right on their property,
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so they came here
and they stayed.
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How long they been here?
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They've been here about
four or five months now.
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They live in the freakin'
house with you guys?
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No, they live in
the cabin next door.
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So are these guys havin'
any paranormal issues?
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Yes.
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They are.
Okay.
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So mercedez, do me a favor
and give me a list
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of what you
guys are experiencing here.
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Okay. Shadow figures,
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being personally attacked,
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nightmares
and just feeling sick.
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So we often get people
feeling physically sick.
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What's the story with you?
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Chronic fatigue, anxiety,
and not being able to breathe.
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And when I'm not here,
I don't have those symptoms.
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So why stay here?
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Get the frig out, and then
maybe things'll get better.
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Well, everything's tied up
in here.
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And besides, I'm gonna fight.
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Okay. I mean,
what are you hoping
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we can do for you?
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I'm hoping that you will
save our marriage.
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Wanna have this be a animal
sanctuary, a musical place
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where everybody's happy
and we can be in love again.
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It's not a lot to ask for,
is it?
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It's not that much to ask.
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But it is while you're in hell.
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[ door creaks ]
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amy: God, I feel sick.
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Ugh. Yeah, this is...
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[ exhales ]
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this feels, like, residual.
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What kind of residual?
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So feelings of extreme anger,
fear, confusion, panic.
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Would the living have any
experiences with these?
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Yeah. [ laughs ]
these emotions
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could be picked up on by
sensitives because
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it's sticking hard and also
the nausea is very bad.
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And it's also draining.
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Yeah, like you start coming
over here, man,
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and it's just **** like a wave.
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It's like -- it's just
hittin' you.
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I see the piano and stuff.
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What's the story?
You guys play?
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I'm a musician,
singer-songwriter,
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and I see personal clients
at the house.
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What do you mean by clients?
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Do you teach music or something?
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No. I am a craniosacral
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myofascial energy
healer-clearer.
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All right. What the hell
is that?
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I pull out energy
from people and help them.
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All right. Have you tried
to get rid of
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this crap on your own?
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Yes. Yes.
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We have tried for years,
but I can't do it myself.
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I can't do it.
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I don't know what to do.
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All right. So, uh, why'd you
bring me in this spot?
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Okay, this is a spot where I
get watched. Watched.
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All right. So when you say
you got the feelin'
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of bein' watched, is it one of
those curious feelings
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or do you think it's somebody
that's creeping on you?
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It's a creepy feeling.
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I have never experienced
anything like this.
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I'm getting, like,
bombarded by this crazy
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dead female.
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She was sure -- she's probably
in her late sixties.
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No boundaries.
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Completely, you know, invading
my personal space.
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I think living people
would experience
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this very obvious, uh,
presence near them.
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She had heart issues,
I think, for most of her life.
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If she's nearby,
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you would have heart-racing,
missing beats,
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things like that.
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And this chick is so over
the top and so dramatic.
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I'm like, damn, you know,
she could have been
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an actress,
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and I don't like her at all.
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All right, so we got
the feeling of being watched.
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What else is going on?
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I feel like I am being
possessed in this room.
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You feel like you're taken
over and it speaks through you.
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All right. I gotta ask you,
though,
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are you take a pills
or you boozin' during the day?
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No. I don't drink.
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I don't smoke.
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I don't take any medicine.
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I'm all holistic.
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So, mercedez, when you feel
like you're gettin' possessed,
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describe what happens.
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Total anxiety, total feeling
like you don't have
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any control.
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Total feeling like you don't
even wanna live.
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You get really angry like that.
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And then you just feel sad.
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So when joe has those mood
changes and, you know, issues
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do you feel he's getting
possessed like you are?
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Yes.
I know he is.
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I'm curious as to what you think
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may be possessing you
or jumping you,
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whatever the hell it may be.
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Um...
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I don't know what is here.
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It does not want me here.
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It never has wanted me here.
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It just -- it's my
second chance at a family,
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and now it's like,
it doesn't want me to have it.
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We're here, okay?
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Okay.
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We're here, so don't
worry about it.
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We're here.
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Thanks.
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Amy: There's some physical
altercation goin' on here,
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like somebody bein' slammed.
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It's a male.
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Oh, his head hurts bad.
His neck.
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Ah, damn.
His **** head, dude.
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Okay. Anyways.
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Okay, out here --
oh, it gets worse!
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Oh great!
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Oh god. I don't want to.
Okay.
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Okay.
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He, uh,
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can quickly kind of jump you.
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So living people would have
experiences of kind of
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feeling like they're kind
of out of control,
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not quite themselves.
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Uh, it can make you sick.
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Yeah, so this isn't
a great situation.
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So what's going on in here?
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Horrific, horrific nightmares.
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I always get picked up and
thrown against the wall,
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and it's, like, always
the same kind of man.
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A very dark, very mean man.
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All right, so I notice
you got a dreamcatcher.
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Has it helped at all?
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They did at first,
but I don't think
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they really do that
much anymore.
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Anything else?
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I get the feeling as if
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I'm being held down in the bed.
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It's like you got hit
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with
a air pressure or water pressure
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pressing you down.
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You know, this is bad.
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How you holding up?
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I'm not. I'm barely
holding up.
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You really don't deserve this.
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Nobody deserves this.
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It's not good.
It's not good for me.
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Amy: [ exhales ]
I do not like it in here.
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So there's this
classic-lookin' cowboy,
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but he turns into, like,
a black octopus thing.
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He gives nightmares.
That's a big thing.
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He goes,
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"maybe I like to sleep
with this one."
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yeah, he's rootin' down in
this person's, uh, stomach.
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He's goin' into them
and then sliding down.
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And he's like, right in
the lower spine area.
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I feel like this is a woman.
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What kind of effect could
he have
257
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on the living here when he
does this?
258
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'cause he's wrapping
around the spine,
259
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eventually it could
lead to paralysis.
260
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[ voices whispering ]
261
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♪♪
262
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steve: So, joe, talkin'
to mercedez,
263
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she says that whatever's here,
in her opinion,
264
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wants to break you guys up.
265
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I think whatever it is
knows that
266
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mercedez is very much
something special, okay?
267
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Okay.
268
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And that we're --
269
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together could be a team that
could do some amazing things.
270
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So then do you think
whatever's here
271
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thinks when you two are together
272
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you're a threat?
273
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Yes.
274
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So, talking to your wife,
275
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she told me that you get
these sudden bursts of anger.
276
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Is that true?
277
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Yes, it is.
278
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Steve: Okay.
279
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I have said things that
really hurt mercedez.
280
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And I'm not an angry person,
in general.
281
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Steve: All right, joe,
so anything else?
282
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I saw a shadow figure in
my living room.
283
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Steve: So describe what it
looked like to you.
284
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Well, it was western.
285
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Felt old.
286
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Evil.
287
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I would say he had one of
288
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those old trench coats that
those old cowboys wear.
289
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- The dusters.
- Yeah. The dusters.
290
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Yeah, yeah.
291
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And, uh, had some sort of a hat.
292
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His energy was just mean, evil.
293
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It scared the hell out of me.
294
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Anything else?
295
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They attacked me.
296
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They grabbed my heart.
297
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When you say "they," who
you talkin' about?
298
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Okay. That's the shadow man.
299
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That's who -- whatever it is
on this property,
300
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there's some bad juju out here.
301
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Have you gone to the hospital
when this has happened?
302
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No.
303
00:13:24,963 --> 00:13:26,263
I wouldn't play russian
roulette anymore.
304
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I would get a stress test done.
305
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We're at that age
where **** happens.
306
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I understand. Yeah.
307
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If amy said she suggested
308
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that you leave here,
what would you say to that?
309
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I would figure out a way
to get the
310
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h-e-double-l outta here.
311
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Amy: That cowboy guy
is just sittin' there.
312
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He's acting oddly.
313
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He was tryin' to hide,
314
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and then he was tryin' to climb
up on the ceiling there.
315
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He's making himself real little
up in the corner.
316
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He's getting tinier and tinier
and tinier,
317
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so I think he might be
a little guilty.
318
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He can get physical with
the living,
319
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I guess if he gets pissed off
or something.
320
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It's interesting how much
he is able to
321
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affect his
surroundings physically.
322
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Ow!
323
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I think that was the cowboy,
324
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reached in and grabbed my neck.
325
00:14:16,959 --> 00:14:18,191
I don't know why he got mad.
326
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He was mad.
327
00:14:27,304 --> 00:14:28,637
Steve: So, guys, I spent
the afternoon
328
00:14:28,773 --> 00:14:32,108
talkin' with mercedez --
your mom, your ex-wife --
329
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and joe about the
stuff that's going on here.
330
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I gotta ask though,
331
00:14:35,948 --> 00:14:38,015
is it a little weird living with
332
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your ex-wife
and her new husband at all?
333
00:14:41,622 --> 00:14:42,954
It's strange.
334
00:14:43,057 --> 00:14:44,956
There's a lot of tension between
335
00:14:45,059 --> 00:14:46,959
joe and your ex-wife,
336
00:14:47,062 --> 00:14:48,327
and they believe
it's the paranormal.
337
00:14:48,430 --> 00:14:50,264
Do you think maybe
you being here
338
00:14:50,366 --> 00:14:51,365
has something to do with that,
339
00:14:51,467 --> 00:14:52,866
or you think it's
the paranormal?
340
00:14:52,968 --> 00:14:54,168
It's the paranormal.
341
00:14:55,505 --> 00:14:57,072
Um, actually, my being here
342
00:14:57,174 --> 00:15:01,310
has had a positive effect
on everything.
343
00:15:01,412 --> 00:15:02,311
Steve: Okay.
344
00:15:02,413 --> 00:15:03,212
He's really helped them.
345
00:15:03,314 --> 00:15:04,146
I was talkin' to your mom,
346
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she was tellin' me about how
347
00:15:05,717 --> 00:15:07,417
sometimes she feels
like she's being possessed
348
00:15:07,519 --> 00:15:08,885
and is not the same person
she is.
349
00:15:08,987 --> 00:15:09,986
Have you noticed that?
350
00:15:10,089 --> 00:15:11,089
Yes, sir.
351
00:15:11,191 --> 00:15:16,895
She has mood swings
and cries a lot.
352
00:15:16,997 --> 00:15:17,930
I mean, there's a lot of stuff
353
00:15:18,032 --> 00:15:21,434
goin' on here
that's a little crazy.
354
00:15:21,536 --> 00:15:23,236
And what kind of experiences
are you guys having?
355
00:15:23,338 --> 00:15:25,506
I've seen the shadow
figure outside.
356
00:15:25,608 --> 00:15:26,874
What did it look like to you?
357
00:15:26,976 --> 00:15:29,176
It looked like a huge man.
358
00:15:29,278 --> 00:15:32,214
Maybe six foot, five.
Six foot, eight.
359
00:15:32,316 --> 00:15:34,983
How do you know it wasn't
some tall guy out there?
360
00:15:35,085 --> 00:15:36,252
The blackness.
361
00:15:36,354 --> 00:15:39,255
It was like --
it was like a black hole.
362
00:15:39,357 --> 00:15:42,192
There was absolutely no light.
363
00:15:42,294 --> 00:15:43,627
So is there anything else
you can tell me about?
364
00:15:43,729 --> 00:15:45,964
Yes, I've had
365
00:15:46,066 --> 00:15:47,499
panic attacks.
366
00:15:47,601 --> 00:15:50,268
Tristan really doesn't --
he never feels safe.
367
00:15:50,370 --> 00:15:51,270
No.
368
00:15:51,372 --> 00:15:53,239
That's not a good way to be.
369
00:15:53,341 --> 00:15:55,742
I don't sleep here good.
370
00:15:55,844 --> 00:15:57,944
He sleeps opposite me.
371
00:15:58,046 --> 00:15:59,446
So I sleep at night.
372
00:15:59,548 --> 00:16:02,049
He's up, so that when
he's asleep
373
00:16:02,152 --> 00:16:04,352
during the day, I'm up.
374
00:16:04,454 --> 00:16:05,721
That's combat conditions.
375
00:16:05,823 --> 00:16:06,688
Mm-hmm.
376
00:16:06,790 --> 00:16:07,656
I've done it.
377
00:16:07,758 --> 00:16:09,725
It's -- it's not great.
378
00:16:14,232 --> 00:16:16,567
There's like a lot of
chaos here.
379
00:16:18,204 --> 00:16:19,970
This is, I think, a
living person.
380
00:16:20,072 --> 00:16:21,039
I think it's male.
381
00:16:22,042 --> 00:16:27,046
Overwhelmed, stressed,
scattered, uh, confused.
382
00:16:32,288 --> 00:16:35,623
Just too much negativity.
383
00:16:35,725 --> 00:16:37,292
A lot of living energy in here,
384
00:16:37,394 --> 00:16:38,760
and it's not good.
385
00:16:40,030 --> 00:16:43,832
The structure's, like,
absorbing this chaos.
386
00:16:46,705 --> 00:16:48,772
It's just all-consuming,
his energy
387
00:16:48,874 --> 00:16:50,641
and living people's energy.
388
00:16:51,978 --> 00:16:55,179
And it's just -- the negative
is just sticking.
389
00:16:55,281 --> 00:16:57,182
I know that somebody
390
00:16:57,284 --> 00:17:00,887
is seeing shadow people
straight out and to the right.
391
00:17:00,989 --> 00:17:03,423
Like, they're coming out of
the bushes and stuff.
392
00:17:03,525 --> 00:17:05,491
I feel like I'm gonna vomit,
393
00:17:05,594 --> 00:17:08,495
and I feel very chaotic
in the mind.
394
00:17:12,703 --> 00:17:15,771
[ voices whispering ]
395
00:17:18,142 --> 00:17:23,213
[ voices whispering ]
396
00:17:23,315 --> 00:17:24,881
so from what I understand,
marana
397
00:17:24,984 --> 00:17:27,151
is one of the safest towns
in arizona.
398
00:17:27,254 --> 00:17:30,021
Most years there's only one
or two homicides.
399
00:17:30,123 --> 00:17:31,924
You know, that's a typical day
in new york city.
400
00:17:32,026 --> 00:17:34,426
But I just got a call from
the local police chief.
401
00:17:34,528 --> 00:17:37,030
He did some digging
and found a double homicide
402
00:17:37,132 --> 00:17:39,699
that happened right next door
to joe and mercedez's house.
403
00:17:39,801 --> 00:17:41,102
He says this is a wild case
404
00:17:41,204 --> 00:17:42,637
that I'm really gonna
wanna know about.
405
00:17:48,445 --> 00:17:49,344
So, chief, I appreciate you
406
00:17:49,446 --> 00:17:50,913
looking into this murder for me.
407
00:17:51,016 --> 00:17:51,981
So we have
these two murder victims
408
00:17:52,083 --> 00:17:53,983
right next to my
clients' property.
409
00:17:54,085 --> 00:17:55,451
Uh, who are they?
410
00:17:55,553 --> 00:17:57,521
The two people --
the two victims in this case
411
00:17:57,623 --> 00:18:00,959
were a freelin huff
and his wife louise.
412
00:18:01,061 --> 00:18:02,327
All right, so we know who
they are.
413
00:18:02,429 --> 00:18:03,728
What about the murders?
What happened?
414
00:18:03,830 --> 00:18:06,332
So it's June 14th of 1957,
415
00:18:06,434 --> 00:18:09,068
and this guy
by the name of paul whalen --
416
00:18:09,170 --> 00:18:10,904
he's a bit of a handyman,
417
00:18:11,006 --> 00:18:12,572
jack-of-all-trades,
master of none,
418
00:18:12,675 --> 00:18:13,907
truck driver, you name it --
419
00:18:14,009 --> 00:18:16,244
he drives his truck up to
the front of their home,
420
00:18:16,346 --> 00:18:18,179
begins honking his horn.
421
00:18:18,281 --> 00:18:21,283
Uh, when freelin huff comes to
the door and opens the door,
422
00:18:21,352 --> 00:18:23,285
paul whalen opens fire on him.
423
00:18:23,387 --> 00:18:24,386
Steve: All right.
Now is this a hit,
424
00:18:24,488 --> 00:18:25,989
or is this some kind of grudge?
425
00:18:26,091 --> 00:18:28,758
Terry: Indications are that
mr. Freelin huff
426
00:18:28,860 --> 00:18:31,429
owed whalen $600.
427
00:18:31,531 --> 00:18:32,430
For what?
428
00:18:32,532 --> 00:18:33,397
Doing some work for him.
429
00:18:33,499 --> 00:18:34,465
I know his wife gets murdered.
430
00:18:34,567 --> 00:18:35,666
How'd she get killed?
431
00:18:35,768 --> 00:18:37,903
So she takes off running when
she hears the gunshots
432
00:18:38,038 --> 00:18:39,538
and whalen takes off after her.
433
00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,674
Shoots her twice.
She falls to the ground.
434
00:18:41,776 --> 00:18:44,777
Somehow she manages to get up,
keeps running.
435
00:18:44,879 --> 00:18:46,080
He shoots her twice again.
436
00:18:46,148 --> 00:18:48,315
She falls into
a barbed-wire fence.
437
00:18:48,417 --> 00:18:51,186
I actually have a copy of her
death certificate here.
438
00:18:51,288 --> 00:18:52,187
All right. So he shoots her
439
00:18:52,289 --> 00:18:53,355
like an animal
in the back both times.
440
00:18:53,457 --> 00:18:54,356
Terry: Exactly.
441
00:18:54,458 --> 00:18:55,724
What's he do next?
442
00:18:55,826 --> 00:18:58,094
So he takes louise and he
carries her back to
443
00:18:58,196 --> 00:19:00,429
the truck and puts her in
the back of his pickup truck.
444
00:19:00,531 --> 00:19:02,332
He then goes back
to freelin huff,
445
00:19:02,434 --> 00:19:04,334
and he shoots him once
in the head.
446
00:19:04,436 --> 00:19:07,405
Actually have a copy of his
death certificate as well.
447
00:19:07,507 --> 00:19:09,374
So he really wanted
this guy dead, huh?
448
00:19:09,476 --> 00:19:12,611
Yeah. So then he takes
the bodies in the back of
449
00:19:12,713 --> 00:19:13,846
the pickup truck underneath
450
00:19:13,948 --> 00:19:16,349
a bridge by
the santa cruz river,
451
00:19:16,451 --> 00:19:18,585
and he places the bodies one
on top of the other,
452
00:19:18,687 --> 00:19:20,387
really in the formation
of a cross.
453
00:19:21,324 --> 00:19:22,423
Steve: All right.
So he kind of did, like,
454
00:19:22,525 --> 00:19:24,325
a ritualistic positioning
of the bodies.
455
00:19:24,427 --> 00:19:26,461
Exactly. When
they apprehend him,
456
00:19:26,563 --> 00:19:30,265
he tells authorities that
he did this on orders from god.
457
00:19:30,367 --> 00:19:31,167
Does he go to trial?
458
00:19:31,302 --> 00:19:32,935
Does he plea out?
What happened?
459
00:19:33,037 --> 00:19:34,837
Well, he actually --
he's indicted, of course,
460
00:19:34,939 --> 00:19:35,805
on the two murders,
461
00:19:35,907 --> 00:19:37,808
but he's found to be
criminally insane,
462
00:19:37,910 --> 00:19:40,010
so he's sentenced to, uh,
the rest of his life
463
00:19:40,112 --> 00:19:42,180
in the arizona state
mental hospital,
464
00:19:42,282 --> 00:19:45,350
and he dies in 2010
at the age of 83.
465
00:19:48,589 --> 00:19:50,956
The guy who jumps people likes
it in here.
466
00:19:52,161 --> 00:19:53,627
I'm more
467
00:19:53,729 --> 00:19:56,898
I think, feeling trauma, man.
468
00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,568
Like, my eye is all -- like, I
couldn't see out of my eye.
469
00:20:01,672 --> 00:20:04,306
Someone's going out
the back door.
470
00:20:04,408 --> 00:20:05,407
It's hard to stand up, man.
471
00:20:05,509 --> 00:20:08,077
Like, I don't really
have control over my body.
472
00:20:09,147 --> 00:20:11,315
Like, I'm blacking out.
473
00:20:12,852 --> 00:20:13,851
I'm seeing blood.
474
00:20:13,953 --> 00:20:15,486
I'm seeing -- like,
I think my nose is broken.
475
00:20:15,588 --> 00:20:17,622
What is this?
What's going on here?
476
00:20:17,724 --> 00:20:19,291
I don't understand this.
477
00:20:19,393 --> 00:20:23,062
He's confused about
what's happening.
478
00:20:23,164 --> 00:20:24,864
Now I'm feeling, like, panicked.
479
00:20:28,471 --> 00:20:29,937
I'm thinking, obviously,
there was some kind of
480
00:20:30,039 --> 00:20:32,507
altercation and he didn't --
481
00:20:32,609 --> 00:20:34,876
he didn't end up on the good
side of that,
482
00:20:34,978 --> 00:20:36,712
um, and ended up dying from it.
483
00:20:39,317 --> 00:20:41,685
So I just got a call from
a local historian.
484
00:20:41,787 --> 00:20:43,453
She says the original owners of
485
00:20:43,555 --> 00:20:45,622
the property suffered
a lot of tragedy.
486
00:20:45,724 --> 00:20:47,358
She says they lost
three family members
487
00:20:47,460 --> 00:20:49,927
in two separate freak accidents.
488
00:20:50,029 --> 00:20:51,095
I'm heading over to meet her
489
00:20:51,197 --> 00:20:53,265
at a local restaurant to see
exactly what happened.
490
00:21:00,742 --> 00:21:01,942
Well, cathy, I appreciate you
meeting with me,
491
00:21:02,044 --> 00:21:03,277
helping me out with this case.
492
00:21:03,379 --> 00:21:04,845
So before we get to these
freak accidents,
493
00:21:04,947 --> 00:21:05,946
what can you tell me about
the family
494
00:21:06,048 --> 00:21:07,449
that owned my clients' property?
495
00:21:07,551 --> 00:21:09,084
Well, the original owners
of the property
496
00:21:09,186 --> 00:21:10,385
were the garcia family.
497
00:21:10,487 --> 00:21:15,024
Francisco garcia was a rancher
and a milk man,
498
00:21:15,126 --> 00:21:17,127
and they had a large family.
499
00:21:17,229 --> 00:21:18,762
He was the patriarch of a family
500
00:21:18,864 --> 00:21:21,131
with 10 kids and 33 grandkids.
501
00:21:21,233 --> 00:21:23,635
I got a headache just
thinking about
502
00:21:23,737 --> 00:21:26,405
10 kids and 33 grandkids.
I couldn't even imagine.
503
00:21:26,507 --> 00:21:28,641
Um, okay, the freak accidents.
504
00:21:28,743 --> 00:21:29,975
Let's talk about the first one.
505
00:21:30,111 --> 00:21:33,880
Well, the first one
happened on September 6, 1930,
506
00:21:33,982 --> 00:21:37,385
when one of those 10 kids,
his son ramon,
507
00:21:37,487 --> 00:21:40,454
and another field hand were
out riding on the property
508
00:21:40,557 --> 00:21:43,825
with their horses and
a big storm rolled in.
509
00:21:43,928 --> 00:21:47,797
Both ramon and the other ranch
hand were found dead out on
510
00:21:47,899 --> 00:21:50,900
the property with their
horses dead,
511
00:21:51,002 --> 00:21:53,304
and even the reins were still
in ramon's hand,
512
00:21:53,406 --> 00:21:57,008
so it was an indication that
they were hit by lightning.
513
00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:59,210
And I have the death
certificate here.
514
00:21:59,313 --> 00:22:00,579
Okay.
515
00:22:00,681 --> 00:22:02,014
So I don't get people struck
by lightning
516
00:22:02,116 --> 00:22:04,083
too often in my investigations,
517
00:22:04,185 --> 00:22:05,117
but you had mentioned
on the phone
518
00:22:05,219 --> 00:22:06,385
it was two freak accidents.
519
00:22:06,487 --> 00:22:07,487
What was the second one?
520
00:22:07,590 --> 00:22:10,057
Thirty-one years later,
tragedy struck again.
521
00:22:10,159 --> 00:22:11,091
Okay.
522
00:22:11,193 --> 00:22:13,428
And at this point,
francisco's son armando
523
00:22:13,530 --> 00:22:14,729
is running the ranch.
524
00:22:14,831 --> 00:22:17,433
On November 24th 1961,
525
00:22:17,535 --> 00:22:20,536
armando's kids,
armando jr. And linda,
526
00:22:20,638 --> 00:22:21,938
were out with their cousins
527
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,408
and they were playing in
the man-made cave
528
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:26,409
and it collapsed.
529
00:22:27,814 --> 00:22:29,547
Steve: Did any of
these kids survive?
530
00:22:29,649 --> 00:22:31,883
Cathy: Armando's kids
fortunately did make it.
531
00:22:31,986 --> 00:22:34,186
They were injured,
but they survived.
532
00:22:34,288 --> 00:22:35,287
Steve: Okay.
533
00:22:35,389 --> 00:22:39,192
But the two cousins,
they died in the accident.
534
00:22:39,294 --> 00:22:41,327
Steve: I played in stuff like
this as a kid, too.
535
00:22:41,429 --> 00:22:43,564
When you said this family had
tragedy, you weren't kidding.
536
00:22:46,703 --> 00:22:51,039
Amy: So this
cowboy-octopus thing,
537
00:22:51,141 --> 00:22:53,709
he's, like, just standing there.
538
00:22:53,811 --> 00:22:58,849
He's saying that he used
to own this land.
539
00:22:58,951 --> 00:23:00,717
It's all his.
540
00:23:00,819 --> 00:23:03,621
I'd put at least, like,
a hundred acres.
541
00:23:03,723 --> 00:23:06,692
She's very angry and sad.
542
00:23:08,195 --> 00:23:11,798
The octopus thing is
543
00:23:11,900 --> 00:23:14,768
capable, absolutely,
544
00:23:14,870 --> 00:23:18,305
of, like,
just taking over somebody,
545
00:23:18,408 --> 00:23:20,341
like, easy.
546
00:23:22,346 --> 00:23:24,880
And it has no good intentions.
547
00:23:26,183 --> 00:23:28,351
I'm pretty --
pretty worried about that.
548
00:23:31,156 --> 00:23:34,858
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549
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,696
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554
00:23:49,978 --> 00:23:52,847
[ voices whispering ]
555
00:23:54,284 --> 00:23:56,017
steve: So far, I've got clients
who are convinced
556
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,487
the paranormal is
tearing apart their marriage
557
00:23:58,589 --> 00:24:00,189
on land where two young men
558
00:24:00,291 --> 00:24:01,958
were killed by
lightning and next door
559
00:24:02,060 --> 00:24:04,794
to a property where a couple was
brutally murdered.
560
00:24:04,896 --> 00:24:06,663
But I want to see if there's
anything else.
561
00:24:07,900 --> 00:24:08,999
Searching through old records,
562
00:24:09,102 --> 00:24:12,204
I find the tragic story
involving a young pilot.
563
00:24:12,306 --> 00:24:13,739
Turns out, he was killed in
564
00:24:13,841 --> 00:24:16,508
a plane crash very close to
joe and mercedez' house.
565
00:24:19,314 --> 00:24:21,514
So I'm heading over to meet
a local journalist
566
00:24:21,616 --> 00:24:24,084
who's helped me out every time
I'm been in tucson.
567
00:24:24,186 --> 00:24:25,919
He says not only was there
a plane crash
568
00:24:26,021 --> 00:24:27,188
next to my client's house,
569
00:24:27,290 --> 00:24:29,023
but he found a deadly
chopper accident
570
00:24:29,126 --> 00:24:30,191
that was way worse
and it happened
571
00:24:30,293 --> 00:24:32,595
right over
joe and mercedez' property.
572
00:24:39,071 --> 00:24:40,737
Well, david, here we all
once again.
573
00:24:42,108 --> 00:24:43,307
All right, so two crashes.
574
00:24:43,409 --> 00:24:44,876
Tell me about the first one.
575
00:24:44,978 --> 00:24:47,913
Well, the first incident
occurred on March 4th, 1948,
576
00:24:48,015 --> 00:24:51,150
when a small plane flew out of
the tucson municipal airport.
577
00:24:51,252 --> 00:24:52,285
Who's in the plane?
578
00:24:52,387 --> 00:24:54,287
Well, it's a 24-year-old
student pilot
579
00:24:54,389 --> 00:24:56,222
by the name of robert rome.
580
00:24:56,324 --> 00:24:58,392
All right, so what the hell
went wrong?
581
00:24:58,494 --> 00:25:00,728
Well, witnesses said they saw
the plane flying
582
00:25:00,830 --> 00:25:03,365
really, really low
and really, really fast
583
00:25:03,467 --> 00:25:05,667
for, like, about 1000 feet
before it
584
00:25:05,769 --> 00:25:07,837
plummeted into the ground
and exploded.
585
00:25:07,939 --> 00:25:10,406
I mean, things went everywhere.
586
00:25:10,508 --> 00:25:12,876
And this happened to happen
right next to
587
00:25:12,978 --> 00:25:14,311
your clients' property.
588
00:25:14,413 --> 00:25:16,046
So with a crash like that,
I can assume
589
00:25:16,148 --> 00:25:17,849
rome died on impact.
Is that right?
590
00:25:17,951 --> 00:25:20,351
That's correct. Here's
an article on it.
591
00:25:22,223 --> 00:25:23,656
All right. So, david, you said
that the second one
592
00:25:23,758 --> 00:25:25,891
was way worse. What's the story
with that one?
593
00:25:25,993 --> 00:25:28,061
That's correct.
You know, in March of 1989,
594
00:25:28,163 --> 00:25:31,731
a ch-3, an air force helicopter
595
00:25:31,834 --> 00:25:33,367
also known as
the jolly green giant,
596
00:25:33,469 --> 00:25:35,169
left the davis-monthan
air force base,
597
00:25:35,238 --> 00:25:37,004
and it was leaving
on a training mission.
598
00:25:37,106 --> 00:25:38,006
So what went wrong?
599
00:25:38,108 --> 00:25:40,409
The helicopter was flying
directly over
600
00:25:40,511 --> 00:25:42,378
your clients' property
when witnesses said
601
00:25:42,514 --> 00:25:44,881
it just exploded like
the fourth of July
602
00:25:44,983 --> 00:25:47,318
and came crashing
down in flames.
603
00:25:47,420 --> 00:25:49,320
All right, so I've been around
explosions like that.
604
00:25:49,422 --> 00:25:51,088
I assume nobody survived.
605
00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:53,291
Sadly, all 15 of the soldiers
were killed,
606
00:25:53,393 --> 00:25:56,194
including 11 green berets
who were being taken
607
00:25:56,296 --> 00:25:57,897
for desert warfare training.
608
00:25:57,999 --> 00:25:58,831
This is a shame.
609
00:25:58,933 --> 00:26:01,033
What the hell
caused this explosion?
610
00:26:01,135 --> 00:26:02,870
Well, you know, investigators
found that there was
611
00:26:02,938 --> 00:26:04,605
a rotator belt problem.
612
00:26:04,707 --> 00:26:07,575
Just two days before, it was
grounded because of this issue.
613
00:26:07,677 --> 00:26:09,043
I mean, this thing never
should have been
614
00:26:09,145 --> 00:26:10,078
out there flying.
615
00:26:11,181 --> 00:26:12,882
You know, it breaks my heart as
a former marine to see
616
00:26:12,984 --> 00:26:14,683
15 warriors get killed
617
00:26:14,785 --> 00:26:16,952
in a training exercise,
of all things.
618
00:26:20,626 --> 00:26:21,658
Amy: Death is here.
619
00:26:24,530 --> 00:26:26,264
Yeah, death is very here.
Mm.
620
00:26:29,536 --> 00:26:32,137
[ voices whispering ]
621
00:26:32,239 --> 00:26:35,241
this has to do with
somebody who died,
622
00:26:35,343 --> 00:26:37,143
and may or may not know it.
623
00:26:37,245 --> 00:26:39,046
They haven't quite
accepted it yet,
624
00:26:40,216 --> 00:26:41,115
but it's here.
625
00:26:46,089 --> 00:26:46,955
I don't feel good.
626
00:26:48,226 --> 00:26:50,192
These guys, these dead guys,
627
00:26:50,295 --> 00:26:51,727
they're all dressed the same.
628
00:26:51,829 --> 00:26:54,731
People would hear
a man yelling and screaming.
629
00:26:55,935 --> 00:26:57,602
Yeah, and I just feel, like,
630
00:26:57,704 --> 00:27:02,240
the chest is, like, crushed.
631
00:27:02,342 --> 00:27:05,644
Many died from atrocities here.
632
00:27:05,746 --> 00:27:07,414
Eh, I see bones.
633
00:27:13,690 --> 00:27:16,324
I saw a lot of disturbing
things on my walk,
634
00:27:16,426 --> 00:27:18,961
but the shapeshifting cowboy
attaching itself
635
00:27:19,063 --> 00:27:22,397
to a living woman
has me the most concerned.
636
00:27:22,500 --> 00:27:25,335
There's a female who's in bed.
She asleep.
637
00:27:25,437 --> 00:27:31,475
And there's this
bizarre octopus thing that's
638
00:27:31,577 --> 00:27:33,144
going into the stomach
639
00:27:33,213 --> 00:27:36,348
and then spreading
out, uh, its tentacles
640
00:27:36,450 --> 00:27:38,985
inside of her.
641
00:27:39,087 --> 00:27:41,854
The eye sockets are skull-like.
642
00:27:41,956 --> 00:27:43,490
It was a dark gray.
643
00:27:48,898 --> 00:27:49,931
Amy, is this what you saw?
644
00:27:50,767 --> 00:27:51,766
Yes.
645
00:27:55,339 --> 00:27:57,941
[ voices whispering ]
646
00:28:00,512 --> 00:28:03,647
[ voices whispering ]
647
00:28:12,493 --> 00:28:15,428
steve: Now that amy and I have
completed our investigations,
648
00:28:15,530 --> 00:28:17,563
we're ready to reveal our
findings to each other
649
00:28:17,666 --> 00:28:20,200
and our clients
for the first time.
650
00:28:20,302 --> 00:28:22,169
So, amy, I wish you could have
651
00:28:22,271 --> 00:28:23,304
seen this place during the day
652
00:28:23,407 --> 00:28:25,040
because it is incredible.
653
00:28:25,142 --> 00:28:28,244
Amazing views, peace and quiet.
654
00:28:28,346 --> 00:28:31,714
But mercedez and joe
aren't enjoying any of it.
655
00:28:31,816 --> 00:28:33,984
Ever since they got married
and mercedez moved in,
656
00:28:34,086 --> 00:28:36,053
this place has been
nothing but hell.
657
00:28:36,155 --> 00:28:37,587
Now they believe their marriage
and their lives
658
00:28:37,690 --> 00:28:39,791
are in danger, and that's why
they called us in.
659
00:28:39,893 --> 00:28:41,626
So unless you have
any questions,
660
00:28:41,728 --> 00:28:42,895
she's gonna tell us
about her walk.
661
00:28:47,301 --> 00:28:49,369
Amy: So the first thing that
I'm going to discuss
662
00:28:49,471 --> 00:28:53,641
is the residual energy, uh,
that's in this house,
663
00:28:53,743 --> 00:28:56,877
uh, particularly in that area.
664
00:28:56,979 --> 00:28:59,147
Very thick.
Very negative.
665
00:28:59,249 --> 00:29:03,519
What I encountered was
living individuals fighting.
666
00:29:03,621 --> 00:29:05,988
I think the biggest impact
667
00:29:06,091 --> 00:29:10,861
for the living would be
sudden onset of anger.
668
00:29:10,963 --> 00:29:13,231
Just going into a rage.
669
00:29:13,333 --> 00:29:15,366
Well, remember when I said
these guys
670
00:29:15,469 --> 00:29:17,001
feel like their marriage
is in jeopardy?
671
00:29:17,104 --> 00:29:20,072
Part of the reason is
joe's anger.
672
00:29:20,174 --> 00:29:21,006
Mercedez, do me a favor.
673
00:29:21,109 --> 00:29:23,477
Better you describe it
to amy than joe.
674
00:29:23,579 --> 00:29:25,278
There's a lot of rage.
675
00:29:25,380 --> 00:29:27,714
It has been really hard for me.
676
00:29:28,985 --> 00:29:31,586
It's not my character
to be that way.
677
00:29:31,688 --> 00:29:32,821
Just seems foreign to me.
678
00:29:32,923 --> 00:29:35,757
Like, out of body almost.
679
00:29:35,860 --> 00:29:38,428
Amy: There is another
location here
680
00:29:38,530 --> 00:29:42,265
where there's another
very negative emotional imprint,
681
00:29:42,367 --> 00:29:45,202
and that was
the next-door cabin.
682
00:29:45,304 --> 00:29:46,971
When I walked over there,
683
00:29:47,073 --> 00:29:52,777
I was literally just slammed
and overwhelmed with chaos.
684
00:29:52,881 --> 00:29:54,714
This is, I think, a
living person.
685
00:29:54,816 --> 00:29:55,748
I think it's male.
686
00:29:56,751 --> 00:30:00,420
Overwhelmed,
stressed, scattered,
687
00:30:00,523 --> 00:30:01,822
uh, confused.
688
00:30:04,461 --> 00:30:07,028
And I think that that person
has had
689
00:30:07,130 --> 00:30:09,098
quite a few experiences.
690
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:15,138
At one point I saw him looking
out from the porch area
691
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,242
and seeing, like,
shadow figures coming out
692
00:30:18,344 --> 00:30:21,279
from, you know,
from way out over there.
693
00:30:21,381 --> 00:30:24,149
Probably a good time to tell
you who lives in this cabin.
694
00:30:24,251 --> 00:30:25,651
It's unusual to say the least,
695
00:30:25,753 --> 00:30:27,786
but, uh, past, what,
five months,
696
00:30:27,888 --> 00:30:30,423
mercedez's ex-husband and son
have been
697
00:30:30,525 --> 00:30:32,492
living in there.
698
00:30:32,594 --> 00:30:33,427
Here's a picture.
699
00:30:33,529 --> 00:30:34,929
This is her ex-husband mark,
700
00:30:35,031 --> 00:30:37,865
and this is her son tristan,
who's 21.
701
00:30:39,203 --> 00:30:41,369
Do me a favor, mercedez,
and you tell
702
00:30:41,471 --> 00:30:42,938
how they ended up here.
703
00:30:43,041 --> 00:30:47,343
So a tornado out of the blue
hit right on their property.
704
00:30:47,445 --> 00:30:49,246
They lost everything.
705
00:30:49,348 --> 00:30:50,280
Wow!
706
00:30:50,382 --> 00:30:52,883
And to your credit,
you took 'em in.
707
00:30:52,985 --> 00:30:55,920
Yeah. Yeah.
They needed a place to go.
708
00:30:56,022 --> 00:30:57,722
Needed some help.
709
00:30:57,824 --> 00:30:59,491
I've grown to love them
very much.
710
00:30:59,594 --> 00:31:00,526
Both of them.
711
00:31:01,762 --> 00:31:02,928
Something blew me away
when you were talkin'.
712
00:31:03,030 --> 00:31:05,899
One of the experiences mark
told me about
713
00:31:06,001 --> 00:31:09,203
was seeing a shadow person right
out there in the bushes.
714
00:31:09,272 --> 00:31:10,504
Out of the two,
who do you think's
715
00:31:10,607 --> 00:31:11,906
the energy
that you picked up on?
716
00:31:12,008 --> 00:31:12,840
Mark or tristan?
717
00:31:15,045 --> 00:31:16,044
I think it's mark.
718
00:31:18,550 --> 00:31:20,550
Well, mark definitely has
that 1000-yard start goin',
719
00:31:20,652 --> 00:31:21,551
I tell you that.
720
00:31:24,590 --> 00:31:26,056
So what else?
721
00:31:26,158 --> 00:31:28,827
Amy: So the first dead person
that I encountered
722
00:31:28,929 --> 00:31:31,463
was a female.
So she's an older woman,
723
00:31:31,565 --> 00:31:36,469
and she is extremely
in your face.
724
00:31:36,571 --> 00:31:38,939
And I felt that she could
affect the living
725
00:31:39,041 --> 00:31:40,274
in a few ways.
726
00:31:40,376 --> 00:31:42,042
First off, feeling watched.
727
00:31:42,144 --> 00:31:43,043
Second off, feeling like
728
00:31:43,145 --> 00:31:47,115
somebody's in your space,
like, a lot.
729
00:31:47,217 --> 00:31:49,451
I can't go from one room at
night to the other because
730
00:31:49,553 --> 00:31:51,520
I feel like there's somebody in
there watching me,
731
00:31:51,622 --> 00:31:53,623
and it's spooky and I don't
even know why.
732
00:31:53,725 --> 00:31:55,659
It's, you know,
somebody's there.
733
00:31:56,628 --> 00:31:58,296
The unfortunately thing,
when she's around,
734
00:31:58,398 --> 00:32:00,298
you could feel like your
heart's jumping,
735
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,432
you're missing beats.
736
00:32:01,534 --> 00:32:03,268
Whoa! Whoa. Whoa.
737
00:32:03,370 --> 00:32:04,703
Amy: Yeah.
738
00:32:04,805 --> 00:32:06,438
I get tightness in my chest.
739
00:32:06,540 --> 00:32:13,614
Like, strong fingers, like,
just pulling my chest.
740
00:32:13,716 --> 00:32:15,049
God!
741
00:32:16,952 --> 00:32:17,918
You okay?
742
00:32:18,020 --> 00:32:19,921
I just didn't --
I didn't know what to expect.
743
00:32:20,023 --> 00:32:22,257
I didn't --
I did not think it was a woman.
744
00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:24,193
That's what these wonderful
people are here for.
745
00:32:26,597 --> 00:32:28,965
Steve: So what else have
you encountered?
746
00:32:29,068 --> 00:32:31,768
Amy: So the next dead person
that I want to talk about
747
00:32:31,870 --> 00:32:33,136
is a problem here.
748
00:32:33,238 --> 00:32:35,073
He's a male.
749
00:32:35,175 --> 00:32:37,875
There was some kind of trauma
that was going on --
750
00:32:37,977 --> 00:32:39,478
uh, physical trauma --
751
00:32:39,580 --> 00:32:42,214
and he was heading out
the back door.
752
00:32:42,316 --> 00:32:45,218
I followed him out, but I was
kind of in his body.
753
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,487
He didn't understand what was
going on with his body.
754
00:32:47,589 --> 00:32:49,190
But there was a lot of blood,
755
00:32:49,325 --> 00:32:54,062
and I got that he was in some
kind of major altercation that
756
00:32:54,164 --> 00:32:56,531
obviously he didn't end up on
the right side of.
757
00:32:56,633 --> 00:33:00,269
So I literally am feeling
him dying.
758
00:33:00,372 --> 00:33:01,971
So a lot of what she was
talking about makes me
759
00:33:02,073 --> 00:33:04,441
think of a bloody
double homicide that happened
760
00:33:04,543 --> 00:33:05,743
right next door to here.
761
00:33:06,612 --> 00:33:08,278
Doh! Great.
762
00:33:08,381 --> 00:33:11,282
Back on June 14th in 1957,
763
00:33:11,385 --> 00:33:13,051
this guy who was
a jack of all trades
764
00:33:13,153 --> 00:33:15,788
named paul whalen,
pulled up to the house
765
00:33:15,890 --> 00:33:16,856
on the property right next door
766
00:33:16,958 --> 00:33:19,159
and started honking his horn.
767
00:33:19,261 --> 00:33:21,528
Back then
a guy named freelin huff
768
00:33:21,630 --> 00:33:22,996
lived there with
his wife, louise.
769
00:33:23,098 --> 00:33:28,069
Now, freelin came to the door
and whalen shot him.
770
00:33:28,171 --> 00:33:29,605
Louise then took off running,
771
00:33:29,707 --> 00:33:31,673
but whalen caught up to her
and shot her dead, too.
772
00:33:31,776 --> 00:33:32,674
Oh, my god.
773
00:33:32,777 --> 00:33:34,611
What the ****?
774
00:33:34,713 --> 00:33:35,678
Wait, did he know them?
775
00:33:35,781 --> 00:33:36,946
Steve: He did.
776
00:33:37,048 --> 00:33:39,984
Uh, back story to it is that he
worked for freelin huff
777
00:33:40,086 --> 00:33:41,886
and he said he owed him money.
778
00:33:41,988 --> 00:33:44,856
Is it possible freelin might
be the guy you ran into?
779
00:33:44,958 --> 00:33:47,692
Yeah, it's very possible.
780
00:33:47,795 --> 00:33:51,364
Wow! I was thinking
about buying that lot.
781
00:33:51,466 --> 00:33:53,132
What could this guy do to
the living here?
782
00:33:53,234 --> 00:33:55,235
So he can jump the living.
783
00:33:56,172 --> 00:33:58,773
So he can enter people,
784
00:33:58,909 --> 00:34:01,109
um, like that.
785
00:34:01,211 --> 00:34:02,343
Great.
786
00:34:02,446 --> 00:34:04,513
That would make a living person
787
00:34:04,615 --> 00:34:05,915
feel kind of out of control,
788
00:34:06,017 --> 00:34:07,316
not really themselves.
789
00:34:07,418 --> 00:34:10,053
And also, when he --
when he leaves,
790
00:34:10,155 --> 00:34:12,589
you would feel
extremely ill and drained.
791
00:34:13,626 --> 00:34:16,294
He goes out by the shop too.
792
00:34:16,396 --> 00:34:19,398
Okay.
Wow. Wow. Wow.
793
00:34:19,500 --> 00:34:21,567
Steve: Mercedez, do me
a favor and talk to amy
794
00:34:21,669 --> 00:34:24,571
about the feeling that you
and joe get possessed.
795
00:34:24,673 --> 00:34:26,873
He's different.
He's walked circles
796
00:34:26,975 --> 00:34:28,676
out there like he's disoriented.
797
00:34:28,778 --> 00:34:29,877
Mm-hmm. Oh yes.
798
00:34:29,979 --> 00:34:32,613
Not focused, just disoriented.
799
00:34:32,715 --> 00:34:35,283
And need to get work done --
800
00:34:35,385 --> 00:34:38,119
I got a list a mile long of
things I gotta get done --
801
00:34:38,222 --> 00:34:40,656
and I'm walking in circles.
What the hell?
802
00:34:40,758 --> 00:34:41,891
And me too.
803
00:34:41,993 --> 00:34:43,426
I've just confused.
804
00:34:43,528 --> 00:34:45,162
I can't think clear.
805
00:34:45,264 --> 00:34:47,965
Could this guy cause them
to be fighting?
806
00:34:48,067 --> 00:34:49,167
No, not this guy.
807
00:34:49,269 --> 00:34:50,335
So it's not this guy?
808
00:34:50,437 --> 00:34:52,470
Hm-mmm. That would be
a lot of the residual energy
809
00:34:52,572 --> 00:34:54,440
that's here.
810
00:34:54,542 --> 00:34:56,275
Well, you know what's causing
you to fight.
811
00:34:56,377 --> 00:34:57,943
Now you know what's causing
feel possessed.
812
00:34:59,748 --> 00:35:01,982
I'm pretty sure there's more,
huh?
813
00:35:02,084 --> 00:35:03,985
Yeah.
814
00:35:04,087 --> 00:35:06,020
So this kind of brings me to
815
00:35:06,122 --> 00:35:11,159
the person that I feel is
a viable threat.
816
00:35:11,262 --> 00:35:13,529
When I first encountered
this male,
817
00:35:13,631 --> 00:35:17,500
uh, he was presenting himself
as, like, this
818
00:35:17,602 --> 00:35:20,104
heroic kind of cowboy.
819
00:35:21,307 --> 00:35:24,643
Then he proceeded to kind
of turn into this
820
00:35:24,745 --> 00:35:30,783
really dark gray
octopus-looking thing.
821
00:35:30,885 --> 00:35:32,585
And I'm like --
- octopus?
822
00:35:32,687 --> 00:35:35,289
Amy: When I walked into
this house,
823
00:35:35,391 --> 00:35:37,558
he told me that he used to own
824
00:35:37,660 --> 00:35:40,461
this land, that it was all his.
825
00:35:40,564 --> 00:35:43,899
The impression he gave me
about how much was, like,
826
00:35:44,001 --> 00:35:47,236
at least 100 acres.
Like he owned everything.
827
00:35:47,338 --> 00:35:50,774
And I got that he's very angry,
828
00:35:50,876 --> 00:35:55,212
but also there's like
this deep sadness.
829
00:35:55,315 --> 00:35:56,180
It's not a lot to go on,
830
00:35:56,282 --> 00:35:57,882
but when you said he owned
the land,
831
00:35:57,984 --> 00:35:59,651
and it was more than 100 acres,
832
00:35:59,753 --> 00:36:01,753
it made me think of the original
owner of the property.
833
00:36:01,889 --> 00:36:04,257
It was a guy
named francisco garcia.
834
00:36:04,359 --> 00:36:06,159
And he said this guy had
anger and sadness.
835
00:36:06,261 --> 00:36:11,265
Now, garcia had a reason to
feel both of these emotions.
836
00:36:11,367 --> 00:36:13,834
In 1930, his own son,
ramon, was riding a horse
837
00:36:13,937 --> 00:36:14,869
on the property,
838
00:36:14,972 --> 00:36:17,472
and he got struck by lightning
and killed.
839
00:36:17,574 --> 00:36:20,409
Now, in 1961 his grandkids
were playing with
840
00:36:20,511 --> 00:36:22,979
their two cousins in
a man-made cave.
841
00:36:23,081 --> 00:36:25,882
It suddenly collapsed and
two of the cousins died
842
00:36:25,985 --> 00:36:28,218
and one of the grandkids
was badly injured.
843
00:36:29,322 --> 00:36:31,255
There has been an unusual amount
844
00:36:31,358 --> 00:36:34,393
of death right on this
freakin' property.
845
00:36:34,495 --> 00:36:36,729
So you said this guy was
a real threat.
846
00:36:36,831 --> 00:36:38,230
What was the big concern about
this guy?
847
00:36:38,332 --> 00:36:42,002
Well, when I walked into
the master bedroom, he was
848
00:36:42,104 --> 00:36:44,672
sitting in a chair over by
the corner,
849
00:36:44,774 --> 00:36:46,807
and he was just staring at
me laughing.
850
00:36:46,909 --> 00:36:51,179
And I felt extremely panicked
and scared.
851
00:36:51,281 --> 00:36:55,084
And I got that he is giving
the living nightmares.
852
00:36:56,154 --> 00:36:59,456
He can also get physical
with the living.
853
00:36:59,558 --> 00:37:04,796
On my walk, he reached in and
pulled my muscle from my neck
854
00:37:04,898 --> 00:37:06,931
and, like, snapped it.
855
00:37:07,034 --> 00:37:10,169
Uh, it was insanely painful.
856
00:37:10,271 --> 00:37:13,005
Didn't you run into a freaking
cowboy shadow figure here?
857
00:37:13,107 --> 00:37:14,006
Yeah.
858
00:37:14,109 --> 00:37:14,875
Steve: Tell amy what happened.
859
00:37:14,977 --> 00:37:16,610
Oh, so you've seen him?
860
00:37:16,712 --> 00:37:21,349
Oh, yeah, I've seen shadow man,
is what I call him.
861
00:37:21,451 --> 00:37:23,784
I walked up to him bravely
862
00:37:23,853 --> 00:37:26,889
and got
eyeball-to-eyeball to him.
863
00:37:26,991 --> 00:37:30,060
I was saying, "get out of here
in the name of jesus christ,"
864
00:37:30,162 --> 00:37:32,495
etcetera, "you are not
welcome in my home."
865
00:37:32,597 --> 00:37:35,166
came back and it was gone.
866
00:37:35,268 --> 00:37:37,401
Now she mentioned nightmares.
867
00:37:37,503 --> 00:37:39,705
I have terrible nightmares.
868
00:37:39,807 --> 00:37:41,373
I wake up screaming.
869
00:37:41,475 --> 00:37:44,844
It's usually a male picks me
up and throws me.
870
00:37:44,946 --> 00:37:47,647
Now amy said that this guy
can get physical.
871
00:37:47,749 --> 00:37:53,687
So with me in the bed, I feel
like, um, I can't move.
872
00:37:53,789 --> 00:37:56,524
And I feel like there's,
like, pressure all over me,
873
00:37:56,593 --> 00:37:58,660
and it happens a lot.
874
00:37:58,762 --> 00:38:01,831
Well, I had a sketch done
of what I saw him doing
875
00:38:01,933 --> 00:38:03,299
to a female in the bed.
876
00:38:03,401 --> 00:38:06,002
[ disgusted ]
oh.
877
00:38:06,105 --> 00:38:07,037
Okay.
878
00:38:17,618 --> 00:38:19,919
Oh, my god!
879
00:38:20,021 --> 00:38:21,688
Oh, my god.
880
00:38:24,159 --> 00:38:25,593
Joe: Stomach?
881
00:38:25,695 --> 00:38:28,562
Feeling, uh, sick, even just,
like, this week.
882
00:38:28,664 --> 00:38:31,266
Really feeling nauseous a lot.
883
00:38:31,368 --> 00:38:33,335
And that's -- that's
the stomach issues.
884
00:38:33,437 --> 00:38:35,004
That is, like, me!
885
00:38:35,106 --> 00:38:36,672
That's me.
886
00:38:36,775 --> 00:38:41,044
What exactly is --
is he doing to mercedez?
887
00:38:41,147 --> 00:38:45,950
It's going inside of her body,
and it's making her sick,
888
00:38:46,052 --> 00:38:48,086
and it's going to make
her sicker.
889
00:38:48,188 --> 00:38:50,389
Because it's wrapping around
the spine area,
890
00:38:50,491 --> 00:38:53,292
eventually it could
lead to paralysis.
891
00:38:53,394 --> 00:38:56,029
Oh, my god!
This sucks!
892
00:38:56,131 --> 00:38:58,265
What the **** is this?
893
00:38:58,367 --> 00:39:00,134
I did not expect this.
894
00:39:01,905 --> 00:39:03,905
I told you it was trying
to kill me.
895
00:39:04,007 --> 00:39:06,208
I told you.
- You did. You did.
896
00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:08,143
You did.
I'm sorry.
897
00:39:15,688 --> 00:39:18,689
[ voices whispering ]
898
00:39:21,562 --> 00:39:24,296
[ voices whispering ]
899
00:39:24,398 --> 00:39:26,899
[ crickets chirping ]
900
00:39:27,001 --> 00:39:29,001
steve: Well, mercedez, joe,
I mean, you guys
901
00:39:29,103 --> 00:39:30,938
are a really great couple.
902
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,706
I really like you guys a lot.
903
00:39:32,808 --> 00:39:34,976
All I know is you guys just
want to be happy, right?
904
00:39:35,078 --> 00:39:36,778
And you're not asking for a lot.
905
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,182
But the big question is,
can you be happy here
906
00:39:40,284 --> 00:39:41,383
on this property?
907
00:39:42,687 --> 00:39:44,086
For that answer
I'm gonna turn it over to amy.
908
00:39:48,093 --> 00:39:51,495
Amy: So what we have here
is bad land,
909
00:39:52,699 --> 00:39:56,702
so I feel that structures,
more than likely,
910
00:39:56,804 --> 00:39:58,103
should not be here.
911
00:39:59,373 --> 00:40:02,508
That's why these structures
are literally being absorbed
912
00:40:02,611 --> 00:40:05,779
by any negative events
or thought processes
913
00:40:05,882 --> 00:40:09,751
or emotions
that living give off.
914
00:40:09,853 --> 00:40:11,586
I've just never seen it
like that.
915
00:40:13,423 --> 00:40:14,356
Great.
916
00:40:14,458 --> 00:40:17,393
As far as you guys
remaining here...
917
00:40:19,732 --> 00:40:24,067
I -- I just -- I don't think
it's something you should do.
918
00:40:27,073 --> 00:40:28,640
Uh, I'd hope that your
ex-husband
919
00:40:28,742 --> 00:40:31,143
and your son will follow.
920
00:40:31,245 --> 00:40:32,945
I can't sell this to somebody.
921
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,348
I've got too much ethics.
922
00:40:35,450 --> 00:40:40,288
Amy: There's a lot of skeptics
out there who will think that.
923
00:40:40,390 --> 00:40:44,458
And some like steve, who --
who may not even be affected.
924
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,962
It's just about disclosure,
you know,
925
00:40:47,064 --> 00:40:49,665
and people --
you would be very surprised.
926
00:40:49,768 --> 00:40:53,403
"haunted residence for sale
in marana."
927
00:40:53,538 --> 00:40:57,741
I don't understand why good
can't conquer evil like this.
928
00:40:57,843 --> 00:40:59,576
So I mean, it's a tough
decision to make,
929
00:40:59,679 --> 00:41:01,179
but what are you thinkin'?
930
00:41:03,784 --> 00:41:06,819
I want to move to colorado
tomorrow, so, yeah.
931
00:41:06,921 --> 00:41:09,155
Thing is, at least you know
your marriage will be better.
932
00:41:09,257 --> 00:41:11,124
Yeah.
I feel better already.
933
00:41:13,729 --> 00:41:15,163
Thank you, guys.
934
00:41:15,265 --> 00:41:16,130
Thank you.
935
00:41:18,201 --> 00:41:19,969
It's never easy telling someone
936
00:41:20,071 --> 00:41:21,737
they need to leave their home,
937
00:41:21,839 --> 00:41:24,640
but in a situation as
dangerous as this
938
00:41:24,742 --> 00:41:26,710
it's their only option.
939
00:41:26,812 --> 00:41:29,813
Hopefully, joe and mercedez
take my advice,
940
00:41:29,916 --> 00:41:31,849
leave this bad land behind,
941
00:41:31,951 --> 00:41:34,585
and get a fresh start
someplace new.
942
00:41:39,193 --> 00:41:41,260
Hi, amy, and hi, steve.
943
00:41:41,363 --> 00:41:43,830
It's mercedez and joe.
944
00:41:43,932 --> 00:41:46,033
Hi, guys. We haven't
decided yet
945
00:41:46,135 --> 00:41:49,336
if we're gonna stay or
we're gonna sell this place.
946
00:41:49,438 --> 00:41:50,872
Uh, we love this property.
947
00:41:50,974 --> 00:41:53,475
You want to stay,
but if we let it win
948
00:41:53,577 --> 00:41:55,211
we will go ahead and move.
949
00:41:55,313 --> 00:41:57,313
Mercedez: It hasn't
beat us yet.
950
00:41:57,415 --> 00:41:58,848
Thank you, and bless you both.
951
00:41:58,898 --> 00:42:03,448
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