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Amy: There's like a lot of chaos.

Death is here. Yeah, death is very here.

Let's just call it a house of pain.

This energy

was just mean, evil.

Reached in and grabbed my neck.

It looked like a huge man, maybe six foot, eight.

So he can jump the living.

I told you it was trying to kill me!

Joe: There's some bad juju out here.

I'm hearing the devil's triangle.

My name is amy allan.

I see dead people.

I think he might have been a stalker.

I speak to dead people. And they speak to me.

He will kill you. He has killed people.

But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.

They're being possessed.

I rely on my partner.

I'm steve dischiavi.

I'm a retired new york city homicide detective.

How many people died here over the years?

And I know every person,

every house has secrets.

It's my job to reveal them.

But steve and I never speak...

We never communicate during an investigation.

...Until the very end.

This sketch is like a nightmare.

When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay...

I never thought that the biggest problem was me.

...Or time to get out.

He could more than likely kill you.

[ voices whispering ]

♪♪

steve: I'm out here in marana, arizona.

It's about 25 minutes outside of tucson.

A woman named mercedez called us in.

She sounded hysterical and says whatever's in the house

is trying destroy her marriage and kill her husband.

She told me she thinks we're her very last chance.

Amy: I'm getting a male.

He says he was running and running for a very long time.

Uh, he said he died because the sun killed him

and the desert ate him.

Then he shows me that he's being surrounded by men.

They all created a perfect circle around him.

So all of these men in unison jump and when they land,

all of a sudden a hole opens up and this guy just

starts falling.

So mercedez, this is

really a beautiful place.

It's peaceful. You got animals everywhere.

But when we spoke, it sounded like

you're living in hell over here.

It looks so beautiful here, and it is,

but there's so much pain in that house.

Let's just call it a house of pain.

When we spoke on the phone,

you'd mentioned about your marriage being on the rocks.

Okay.

What's going on with the marriage?

I love joe.

I love him to pieces, but the things that have happened,

um, I feel like something takes over him.

It's okay. Take your time.

Mercedez: I'm sorry.

Bad things have been said to me that have hurt me so bad.

We can't even, like, talk,

or we can't even be in the same room.

Listen, we're here now.

We'll do our best.

I can promise you that.

Okay, mercedez,

so is it just you and joe in the house?

No, I have a picture.

That's my husband, joe,

and this is my son, tristan, who's 21.

And that's his dad,

my former husband, mark.

Your former husband lives here.

Yes, my former husband lives here with my son.

And you're sure the marriage problems ain't

because you got an ex-husband living here?

Yes.

You think that's from the paranormal?

I know it's from the paranormal.

Okay. Is there a reason your ex is

living here with you and your husband?

Yes. A tornado, of all things,

hit right on their property,

so they came here and they stayed.

How long they been here?

They've been here about four or five months now.

They live in the freakin' house with you guys?

No, they live in the cabin next door.

So are these guys havin' any paranormal issues?

Yes.

They are. Okay.

So mercedez, do me a favor and give me a list

of what you guys are experiencing here.

Okay. Shadow figures,

being personally attacked,

nightmares and just feeling sick.

So we often get people feeling physically sick.

What's the story with you?

Chronic fatigue, anxiety, and not being able to breathe.

And when I'm not here, I don't have those symptoms.

So why stay here?

Get the frig out, and then maybe things'll get better.

Well, everything's tied up in here.

And besides, I'm gonna fight.

Okay. I mean, what are you hoping

we can do for you?

I'm hoping that you will save our marriage.

Wanna have this be a animal sanctuary, a musical place

where everybody's happy and we can be in love again.

It's not a lot to ask for, is it?

It's not that much to ask.

But it is while you're in hell.

[ door creaks ]

amy: God, I feel sick.

Ugh. Yeah, this is...

[ exhales ]

this feels, like, residual.

What kind of residual?

So feelings of extreme anger, fear, confusion, panic.

Would the living have any experiences with these?

Yeah. [ laughs ] these emotions

could be picked up on by sensitives because

it's sticking hard and also the nausea is very bad.

And it's also draining.

Yeah, like you start coming over here, man,

and it's just **** like a wave.

It's like -- it's just hittin' you.

I see the piano and stuff.

What's the story? You guys play?

I'm a musician, singer-songwriter,

and I see personal clients at the house.

What do you mean by clients?

Do you teach music or something?

No. I am a craniosacral

myofascial energy healer-clearer.

All right. What the hell is that?

I pull out energy from people and help them.

All right. Have you tried to get rid of

this crap on your own?

Yes. Yes.

We have tried for years, but I can't do it myself.

I can't do it.

I don't know what to do.

All right. So, uh, why'd you bring me in this spot?

Okay, this is a spot where I get watched. Watched.

All right. So when you say you got the feelin'

of bein' watched, is it one of those curious feelings

or do you think it's somebody that's creeping on you?

It's a creepy feeling.

I have never experienced anything like this.

I'm getting, like, bombarded by this crazy

dead female.

She was sure -- she's probably in her late sixties.

No boundaries.

Completely, you know, invading my personal space.

I think living people would experience

this very obvious, uh, presence near them.

She had heart issues, I think, for most of her life.

If she's nearby,

you would have heart-racing, missing beats,

things like that.

And this chick is so over the top and so dramatic.

I'm like, damn, you know, she could have been

an actress,

and I don't like her at all.

All right, so we got the feeling of being watched.

What else is going on?

I feel like I am being possessed in this room.

You feel like you're taken over and it speaks through you.

All right. I gotta ask you, though,

are you take a pills or you boozin' during the day?

No. I don't drink.

I don't smoke.

I don't take any medicine.

I'm all holistic.

So, mercedez, when you feel like you're gettin' possessed,

describe what happens.

Total anxiety, total feeling like you don't have

any control.

Total feeling like you don't even wanna live.

You get really angry like that.

And then you just feel sad.

So when joe has those mood changes and, you know, issues

do you feel he's getting possessed like you are?

Yes. I know he is.

I'm curious as to what you think

may be possessing you or jumping you,

whatever the hell it may be.

Um...

I don't know what is here.

It does not want me here.

It never has wanted me here.

It just -- it's my second chance at a family,

and now it's like, it doesn't want me to have it.

We're here, okay?

Okay.

We're here, so don't worry about it.

We're here.

Thanks.

Amy: There's some physical altercation goin' on here,

like somebody bein' slammed.

It's a male.

Oh, his head hurts bad. His neck.

Ah, damn. His **** head, dude.

Okay. Anyways.

Okay, out here -- oh, it gets worse!

Oh great!

Oh god. I don't want to. Okay.

Okay.

He, uh,

can quickly kind of jump you.

So living people would have experiences of kind of

feeling like they're kind of out of control,

not quite themselves.

Uh, it can make you sick.

Yeah, so this isn't a great situation.

So what's going on in here?

Horrific, horrific nightmares.

I always get picked up and thrown against the wall,

and it's, like, always the same kind of man.

A very dark, very mean man.

All right, so I notice you got a dreamcatcher.

Has it helped at all?

They did at first, but I don't think

they really do that much anymore.

Anything else?

I get the feeling as if

I'm being held down in the bed.

It's like you got hit

with a air pressure or water pressure

pressing you down.

You know, this is bad.

How you holding up?

I'm not. I'm barely holding up.

You really don't deserve this.

Nobody deserves this.

It's not good. It's not good for me.

Amy: [ exhales ] I do not like it in here.

So there's this classic-lookin' cowboy,

but he turns into, like, a black octopus thing.

He gives nightmares. That's a big thing.

He goes,

"maybe I like to sleep with this one."

yeah, he's rootin' down in this person's, uh, stomach.

He's goin' into them and then sliding down.

And he's like, right in the lower spine area.

I feel like this is a woman.

What kind of effect could he have

on the living here when he does this?

'cause he's wrapping around the spine,

eventually it could lead to paralysis.

[ voices whispering ]

♪♪

steve: So, joe, talkin' to mercedez,

she says that whatever's here, in her opinion,

wants to break you guys up.

I think whatever it is knows that

mercedez is very much something special, okay?

Okay.

And that we're --

together could be a team that could do some amazing things.

So then do you think whatever's here

thinks when you two are together

you're a threat?

Yes.

So, talking to your wife,

she told me that you get these sudden bursts of anger.

Is that true?

Yes, it is.

Steve: Okay.

I have said things that really hurt mercedez.

And I'm not an angry person, in general.

Steve: All right, joe, so anything else?

I saw a shadow figure in my living room.

Steve: So describe what it looked like to you.

Well, it was western.

Felt old.

Evil.

I would say he had one of

those old trench coats that those old cowboys wear.

- The dusters. - Yeah. The dusters.

Yeah, yeah.

And, uh, had some sort of a hat.

His energy was just mean, evil.

It scared the hell out of me.

Anything else?

They attacked me.

They grabbed my heart.

When you say "they," who you talkin' about?

Okay. That's the shadow man.

That's who -- whatever it is on this property,

there's some bad juju out here.

Have you gone to the hospital when this has happened?

No.

I wouldn't play russian roulette anymore.

I would get a stress test done.

We're at that age where **** happens.

I understand. Yeah.

If amy said she suggested

that you leave here, what would you say to that?

I would figure out a way to get the

h-e-double-l outta here.

Amy: That cowboy guy is just sittin' there.

He's acting oddly.

He was tryin' to hide,

and then he was tryin' to climb up on the ceiling there.

He's making himself real little up in the corner.

He's getting tinier and tinier and tinier,

so I think he might be a little guilty.

He can get physical with the living,

I guess if he gets pissed off or something.

It's interesting how much he is able to

affect his surroundings physically.

Ow!

I think that was the cowboy,

reached in and grabbed my neck.

I don't know why he got mad.

He was mad.

Steve: So, guys, I spent the afternoon

talkin' with mercedez -- your mom, your ex-wife --

and joe about the stuff that's going on here.

I gotta ask though,

is it a little weird living with

your ex-wife and her new husband at all?

It's strange.

There's a lot of tension between

joe and your ex-wife,

and they believe it's the paranormal.

Do you think maybe you being here

has something to do with that,

or you think it's the paranormal?

It's the paranormal.

Um, actually, my being here

has had a positive effect on everything.

Steve: Okay.

He's really helped them.

I was talkin' to your mom,

she was tellin' me about how

sometimes she feels like she's being possessed

and is not the same person she is.

Have you noticed that?

Yes, sir.

She has mood swings and cries a lot.

I mean, there's a lot of stuff

goin' on here that's a little crazy.

And what kind of experiences are you guys having?

I've seen the shadow figure outside.

What did it look like to you?

It looked like a huge man.

Maybe six foot, five. Six foot, eight.

How do you know it wasn't some tall guy out there?

The blackness.

It was like -- it was like a black hole.

There was absolutely no light.

So is there anything else you can tell me about?

Yes, I've had

panic attacks.

Tristan really doesn't -- he never feels safe.

No.

That's not a good way to be.

I don't sleep here good.

He sleeps opposite me.

So I sleep at night.

He's up, so that when he's asleep

during the day, I'm up.

That's combat conditions.

Mm-hmm.

I've done it.

It's -- it's not great.

There's like a lot of chaos here.

This is, I think, a living person.

I think it's male.

Overwhelmed, stressed, scattered, uh, confused.

Just too much negativity.

A lot of living energy in here,

and it's not good.

The structure's, like, absorbing this chaos.

It's just all-consuming, his energy

and living people's energy.

And it's just -- the negative is just sticking.

I know that somebody

is seeing shadow people straight out and to the right.

Like, they're coming out of the bushes and stuff.

I feel like I'm gonna vomit,

and I feel very chaotic in the mind.

[ voices whispering ]

[ voices whispering ]

so from what I understand, marana

is one of the safest towns in arizona.

Most years there's only one or two homicides.

You know, that's a typical day in new york city.

But I just got a call from the local police chief.

He did some digging and found a double homicide

that happened right next door to joe and mercedez's house.

He says this is a wild case

that I'm really gonna wanna know about.

So, chief, I appreciate you

looking into this murder for me.

So we have these two murder victims

right next to my clients' property.

Uh, who are they?

The two people -- the two victims in this case

were a freelin huff and his wife louise.

All right, so we know who they are.

What about the murders? What happened?

So it's June 14th of 1957,

and this guy by the name of paul whalen --

he's a bit of a handyman,

jack-of-all-trades, master of none,

truck driver, you name it --

he drives his truck up to the front of their home,

begins honking his horn.

Uh, when freelin huff comes to the door and opens the door,

paul whalen opens fire on him.

Steve: All right. Now is this a hit,

or is this some kind of grudge?

Terry: Indications are that mr. Freelin huff

owed whalen $600.

For what?

Doing some work for him.

I know his wife gets murdered.

How'd she get killed?

So she takes off running when she hears the gunshots

and whalen takes off after her.

Shoots her twice. She falls to the ground.

Somehow she manages to get up, keeps running.

He shoots her twice again.

She falls into a barbed-wire fence.

I actually have a copy of her death certificate here.

All right. So he shoots her

like an animal in the back both times.

Terry: Exactly.

What's he do next?

So he takes louise and he carries her back to

the truck and puts her in the back of his pickup truck.

He then goes back to freelin huff,

and he shoots him once in the head.

Actually have a copy of his death certificate as well.

So he really wanted this guy dead, huh?

Yeah. So then he takes the bodies in the back of

the pickup truck underneath

a bridge by the santa cruz river,

and he places the bodies one on top of the other,

really in the formation of a cross.

Steve: All right. So he kind of did, like,

a ritualistic positioning of the bodies.

Exactly. When they apprehend him,

he tells authorities that he did this on orders from god.

Does he go to trial?

Does he plea out? What happened?

Well, he actually -- he's indicted, of course,

on the two murders,

but he's found to be criminally insane,

so he's sentenced to, uh, the rest of his life

in the arizona state mental hospital,

and he dies in 2010 at the age of 83.

The guy who jumps people likes it in here.

I'm more

I think, feeling trauma, man.

Like, my eye is all -- like, I couldn't see out of my eye.

Someone's going out the back door.

It's hard to stand up, man.

Like, I don't really have control over my body.

Like, I'm blacking out.

I'm seeing blood.

I'm seeing -- like, I think my nose is broken.

What is this? What's going on here?

I don't understand this.

He's confused about what's happening.

Now I'm feeling, like, panicked.

I'm thinking, obviously, there was some kind of

altercation and he didn't --

he didn't end up on the good side of that,

um, and ended up dying from it.

So I just got a call from a local historian.

She says the original owners of

the property suffered a lot of tragedy.

She says they lost three family members

in two separate freak accidents.

I'm heading over to meet her

at a local restaurant to see exactly what happened.

Well, cathy, I appreciate you meeting with me,

helping me out with this case.

So before we get to these freak accidents,

what can you tell me about the family

that owned my clients' property?

Well, the original owners of the property

were the garcia family.

Francisco garcia was a rancher and a milk man,

and they had a large family.

He was the patriarch of a family

with 10 kids and 33 grandkids.

I got a headache just thinking about

10 kids and 33 grandkids. I couldn't even imagine.

Um, okay, the freak accidents.

Let's talk about the first one.

Well, the first one happened on September 6, 1930,

when one of those 10 kids, his son ramon,

and another field hand were out riding on the property

with their horses and a big storm rolled in.

Both ramon and the other ranch hand were found dead out on

the property with their horses dead,

and even the reins were still in ramon's hand,

so it was an indication that they were hit by lightning.

And I have the death certificate here.

Okay.

So I don't get people struck by lightning

too often in my investigations,

but you had mentioned on the phone

it was two freak accidents.

What was the second one?

Thirty-one years later, tragedy struck again.

Okay.

And at this point, francisco's son armando

is running the ranch.

On November 24th 1961,

armando's kids, armando jr. And linda,

were out with their cousins

and they were playing in the man-made cave

and it collapsed.

Steve: Did any of these kids survive?

Cathy: Armando's kids fortunately did make it.

They were injured, but they survived.

Steve: Okay.

But the two cousins, they died in the accident.

Steve: I played in stuff like this as a kid, too.

When you said this family had tragedy, you weren't kidding.

Amy: So this cowboy-octopus thing,

he's, like, just standing there.

He's saying that he used to own this land.

It's all his.

I'd put at least, like, a hundred acres.

She's very angry and sad.

The octopus thing is

capable, absolutely,

of, like, just taking over somebody,

like, easy.

And it has no good intentions.

I'm pretty -- pretty worried about that.

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[ voices whispering ]

steve: So far, I've got clients who are convinced

the paranormal is tearing apart their marriage

on land where two young men

were killed by lightning and next door

to a property where a couple was brutally murdered.

But I want to see if there's anything else.

Searching through old records,

I find the tragic story involving a young pilot.

Turns out, he was killed in

a plane crash very close to joe and mercedez' house.

So I'm heading over to meet a local journalist

who's helped me out every time I'm been in tucson.

He says not only was there a plane crash

next to my client's house,

but he found a deadly chopper accident

that was way worse and it happened

right over joe and mercedez' property.

Well, david, here we all once again.

All right, so two crashes.

Tell me about the first one.

Well, the first incident occurred on March 4th, 1948,

when a small plane flew out of the tucson municipal airport.

Who's in the plane?

Well, it's a 24-year-old student pilot

by the name of robert rome.

All right, so what the hell went wrong?

Well, witnesses said they saw the plane flying

really, really low and really, really fast

for, like, about 1000 feet before it

plummeted into the ground and exploded.

I mean, things went everywhere.

And this happened to happen right next to

your clients' property.

So with a crash like that, I can assume

rome died on impact. Is that right?

That's correct. Here's an article on it.

All right. So, david, you said that the second one

was way worse. What's the story with that one?

That's correct. You know, in March of 1989,

a ch-3, an air force helicopter

also known as the jolly green giant,

left the davis-monthan air force base,

and it was leaving on a training mission.

So what went wrong?

The helicopter was flying directly over

your clients' property when witnesses said

it just exploded like the fourth of July

and came crashing down in flames.

All right, so I've been around explosions like that.

I assume nobody survived.

Sadly, all 15 of the soldiers were killed,

including 11 green berets who were being taken

for desert warfare training.

This is a shame.

What the hell caused this explosion?

Well, you know, investigators found that there was

a rotator belt problem.

Just two days before, it was grounded because of this issue.

I mean, this thing never should have been

out there flying.

You know, it breaks my heart as a former marine to see

15 warriors get killed

in a training exercise, of all things.

Amy: Death is here.

Yeah, death is very here. Mm.

[ voices whispering ]

this has to do with somebody who died,

and may or may not know it.

They haven't quite accepted it yet,

but it's here.

I don't feel good.

These guys, these dead guys,

they're all dressed the same.

People would hear a man yelling and screaming.

Yeah, and I just feel, like,

the chest is, like, crushed.

Many died from atrocities here.

Eh, I see bones.

I saw a lot of disturbing things on my walk,

but the shapeshifting cowboy attaching itself

to a living woman has me the most concerned.

There's a female who's in bed. She asleep.

And there's this bizarre octopus thing that's

going into the stomach

and then spreading out, uh, its tentacles

inside of her.

The eye sockets are skull-like.

It was a dark gray.

Amy, is this what you saw?

Yes.

[ voices whispering ]

[ voices whispering ]

steve: Now that amy and I have completed our investigations,

we're ready to reveal our findings to each other

and our clients for the first time.

So, amy, I wish you could have

seen this place during the day

because it is incredible.

Amazing views, peace and quiet.

But mercedez and joe aren't enjoying any of it.

Ever since they got married and mercedez moved in,

this place has been nothing but hell.

Now they believe their marriage and their lives

are in danger, and that's why they called us in.

So unless you have any questions,

she's gonna tell us about her walk.

Amy: So the first thing that I'm going to discuss

is the residual energy, uh, that's in this house,

uh, particularly in that area.

Very thick. Very negative.

What I encountered was living individuals fighting.

I think the biggest impact

for the living would be sudden onset of anger.

Just going into a rage.

Well, remember when I said these guys

feel like their marriage is in jeopardy?

Part of the reason is joe's anger.

Mercedez, do me a favor.

Better you describe it to amy than joe.

There's a lot of rage.

It has been really hard for me.

It's not my character to be that way.

Just seems foreign to me.

Like, out of body almost.

Amy: There is another location here

where there's another very negative emotional imprint,

and that was the next-door cabin.

When I walked over there,

I was literally just slammed and overwhelmed with chaos.

This is, I think, a living person.

I think it's male.

Overwhelmed, stressed, scattered,

uh, confused.

And I think that that person has had

quite a few experiences.

At one point I saw him looking out from the porch area

and seeing, like, shadow figures coming out

from, you know, from way out over there.

Probably a good time to tell you who lives in this cabin.

It's unusual to say the least,

but, uh, past, what, five months,

mercedez's ex-husband and son have been

living in there.

Here's a picture.

This is her ex-husband mark,

and this is her son tristan, who's 21.

Do me a favor, mercedez, and you tell

how they ended up here.

So a tornado out of the blue hit right on their property.

They lost everything.

Wow!

And to your credit, you took 'em in.

Yeah. Yeah. They needed a place to go.

Needed some help.

I've grown to love them very much.

Both of them.

Something blew me away when you were talkin'.

One of the experiences mark told me about

was seeing a shadow person right out there in the bushes.

Out of the two, who do you think's

the energy that you picked up on?

Mark or tristan?

I think it's mark.

Well, mark definitely has that 1000-yard start goin',

I tell you that.

So what else?

Amy: So the first dead person that I encountered

was a female. So she's an older woman,

and she is extremely in your face.

And I felt that she could affect the living

in a few ways.

First off, feeling watched.

Second off, feeling like

somebody's in your space, like, a lot.

I can't go from one room at night to the other because

I feel like there's somebody in there watching me,

and it's spooky and I don't even know why.

It's, you know, somebody's there.

The unfortunately thing, when she's around,

you could feel like your heart's jumping,

you're missing beats.

Whoa! Whoa. Whoa.

Amy: Yeah.

I get tightness in my chest.

Like, strong fingers, like, just pulling my chest.

God!

You okay?

I just didn't -- I didn't know what to expect.

I didn't -- I did not think it was a woman.

That's what these wonderful people are here for.

Steve: So what else have you encountered?

Amy: So the next dead person that I want to talk about

is a problem here.

He's a male.

There was some kind of trauma that was going on --

uh, physical trauma --

and he was heading out the back door.

I followed him out, but I was kind of in his body.

He didn't understand what was going on with his body.

But there was a lot of blood,

and I got that he was in some kind of major altercation that

obviously he didn't end up on the right side of.

So I literally am feeling him dying.

So a lot of what she was talking about makes me

think of a bloody double homicide that happened

right next door to here.

Doh! Great.

Back on June 14th in 1957,

this guy who was a jack of all trades

named paul whalen, pulled up to the house

on the property right next door

and started honking his horn.

Back then a guy named freelin huff

lived there with his wife, louise.

Now, freelin came to the door and whalen shot him.

Louise then took off running,

but whalen caught up to her and shot her dead, too.

Oh, my god.

What the ****?

Wait, did he know them?

Steve: He did.

Uh, back story to it is that he worked for freelin huff

and he said he owed him money.

Is it possible freelin might be the guy you ran into?

Yeah, it's very possible.

Wow! I was thinking about buying that lot.

What could this guy do to the living here?

So he can jump the living.

So he can enter people,

um, like that.

Great.

That would make a living person

feel kind of out of control,

not really themselves.

And also, when he -- when he leaves,

you would feel extremely ill and drained.

He goes out by the shop too.

Okay. Wow. Wow. Wow.

Steve: Mercedez, do me a favor and talk to amy

about the feeling that you and joe get possessed.

He's different. He's walked circles

out there like he's disoriented.

Mm-hmm. Oh yes.

Not focused, just disoriented.

And need to get work done --

I got a list a mile long of things I gotta get done --

and I'm walking in circles. What the hell?

And me too.

I've just confused.

I can't think clear.

Could this guy cause them to be fighting?

No, not this guy.

So it's not this guy?

Hm-mmm. That would be a lot of the residual energy

that's here.

Well, you know what's causing you to fight.

Now you know what's causing feel possessed.

I'm pretty sure there's more, huh?

Yeah.

So this kind of brings me to

the person that I feel is a viable threat.

When I first encountered this male,

uh, he was presenting himself as, like, this

heroic kind of cowboy.

Then he proceeded to kind of turn into this

really dark gray octopus-looking thing.

And I'm like -- - octopus?

Amy: When I walked into this house,

he told me that he used to own

this land, that it was all his.

The impression he gave me about how much was, like,

at least 100 acres. Like he owned everything.

And I got that he's very angry,

but also there's like this deep sadness.

It's not a lot to go on,

but when you said he owned the land,

and it was more than 100 acres,

it made me think of the original owner of the property.

It was a guy named francisco garcia.

And he said this guy had anger and sadness.

Now, garcia had a reason to feel both of these emotions.

In 1930, his own son, ramon, was riding a horse

on the property,

and he got struck by lightning and killed.

Now, in 1961 his grandkids were playing with

their two cousins in a man-made cave.

It suddenly collapsed and two of the cousins died

and one of the grandkids was badly injured.

There has been an unusual amount

of death right on this freakin' property.

So you said this guy was a real threat.

What was the big concern about this guy?

Well, when I walked into the master bedroom, he was

sitting in a chair over by the corner,

and he was just staring at me laughing.

And I felt extremely panicked and scared.

And I got that he is giving the living nightmares.

He can also get physical with the living.

On my walk, he reached in and pulled my muscle from my neck

and, like, snapped it.

Uh, it was insanely painful.

Didn't you run into a freaking cowboy shadow figure here?

Yeah.

Steve: Tell amy what happened.

Oh, so you've seen him?

Oh, yeah, I've seen shadow man, is what I call him.

I walked up to him bravely

and got eyeball-to-eyeball to him.

I was saying, "get out of here in the name of jesus christ,"

etcetera, "you are not welcome in my home."

came back and it was gone.

Now she mentioned nightmares.

I have terrible nightmares.

I wake up screaming.

It's usually a male picks me up and throws me.

Now amy said that this guy can get physical.

So with me in the bed, I feel like, um, I can't move.

And I feel like there's, like, pressure all over me,

and it happens a lot.

Well, I had a sketch done of what I saw him doing

to a female in the bed.

[ disgusted ] oh.

Okay.

Oh, my god!

Oh, my god.

Joe: Stomach?

Feeling, uh, sick, even just, like, this week.

Really feeling nauseous a lot.

And that's -- that's the stomach issues.

That is, like, me!

That's me.

What exactly is -- is he doing to mercedez?

It's going inside of her body, and it's making her sick,

and it's going to make her sicker.

Because it's wrapping around the spine area,

eventually it could lead to paralysis.

Oh, my god! This sucks!

What the **** is this?

I did not expect this.

I told you it was trying to kill me.

I told you. - You did. You did.

You did. I'm sorry.

[ voices whispering ]

[ voices whispering ]

[ crickets chirping ]

steve: Well, mercedez, joe, I mean, you guys

are a really great couple.

I really like you guys a lot.

All I know is you guys just want to be happy, right?

And you're not asking for a lot.

But the big question is, can you be happy here

on this property?

For that answer I'm gonna turn it over to amy.

Amy: So what we have here is bad land,

so I feel that structures, more than likely,

should not be here.

That's why these structures are literally being absorbed

by any negative events or thought processes

or emotions that living give off.

I've just never seen it like that.

Great.

As far as you guys remaining here...

I -- I just -- I don't think it's something you should do.

Uh, I'd hope that your ex-husband

and your son will follow.

I can't sell this to somebody.

I've got too much ethics.

Amy: There's a lot of skeptics out there who will think that.

And some like steve, who -- who may not even be affected.

It's just about disclosure, you know,

and people -- you would be very surprised.

"haunted residence for sale in marana."

I don't understand why good can't conquer evil like this.

So I mean, it's a tough decision to make,

but what are you thinkin'?

I want to move to colorado tomorrow, so, yeah.

Thing is, at least you know your marriage will be better.

Yeah. I feel better already.

Thank you, guys.

Thank you.

It's never easy telling someone

they need to leave their home,

but in a situation as dangerous as this

it's their only option.

Hopefully, joe and mercedez take my advice,

leave this bad land behind,

and get a fresh start someplace new.

Hi, amy, and hi, steve.

It's mercedez and joe.

Hi, guys. We haven't decided yet

if we're gonna stay or we're gonna sell this place.

Uh, we love this property.

You want to stay, but if we let it win

we will go ahead and move.

Mercedez: It hasn't beat us yet.

Thank you, and bless you both.

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