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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,836 --> 00:00:10,311 ♪♪ 2 00:00:10,413 --> 00:00:12,447 amy: I see something hissing and growling. 3 00:00:13,884 --> 00:00:15,851 There is a skinwalker here. 4 00:00:15,953 --> 00:00:19,322 Nothing can prepare you for what is going on in my house. 5 00:00:19,424 --> 00:00:21,258 They did find a body. 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,227 He's decomposing. 7 00:00:24,965 --> 00:00:26,865 This guy got away with murder, as well. 8 00:00:26,967 --> 00:00:27,732 Yes. 9 00:00:27,834 --> 00:00:29,468 It would kill you and eat you. 10 00:00:30,838 --> 00:00:32,338 Bring it on. 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,909 Amy: It makes you think you're going insane. 12 00:00:36,945 --> 00:00:39,280 I'm hearing the devil's triangle. 13 00:00:39,382 --> 00:00:41,750 My name is amy allan. 14 00:00:41,852 --> 00:00:43,152 I see dead people. 15 00:00:43,254 --> 00:00:45,621 I think he might've been a stalker. 16 00:00:45,723 --> 00:00:47,891 I speak to dead people. 17 00:00:47,993 --> 00:00:49,759 And they speak to me. 18 00:00:49,861 --> 00:00:51,762 He will kill you. He has killed people. 19 00:00:51,864 --> 00:00:55,300 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 20 00:00:55,402 --> 00:00:57,102 They're being possessed. 21 00:00:57,204 --> 00:00:58,704 I rely on my partner. 22 00:00:58,807 --> 00:01:00,039 I'm steve dischiavi. 23 00:01:00,141 --> 00:01:02,208 I'm a retired new york city homicide detective. 24 00:01:02,310 --> 00:01:03,977 How many people died here over the years? 25 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,682 And I know every person, every house, has secrets. 26 00:01:07,784 --> 00:01:09,317 It's my job to reveal them. 27 00:01:09,419 --> 00:01:11,087 But steve and I never speak... 28 00:01:11,189 --> 00:01:13,222 We never communicate during an investigation. 29 00:01:13,324 --> 00:01:14,623 ...Until the very end... 30 00:01:14,725 --> 00:01:16,560 This sketch is like a nightmare. 31 00:01:16,662 --> 00:01:18,595 ...When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 32 00:01:18,697 --> 00:01:19,630 [ crying ] I never thought 33 00:01:19,732 --> 00:01:21,165 that the biggest problem was me. 34 00:01:21,267 --> 00:01:22,867 ...Or time to get out. 35 00:01:22,969 --> 00:01:24,670 He could, more than likely, 36 00:01:24,772 --> 00:01:25,704 kill you. - [ crying ] 37 00:01:25,806 --> 00:01:26,772 [ ominous chord strikes ] 38 00:01:26,874 --> 00:01:28,741 [ ghostly whispers ] 39 00:01:32,348 --> 00:01:40,456 ♪♪ 40 00:01:40,525 --> 00:01:42,658 so I'm back out here in tucson, arizona, 41 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,062 and it's a beautiful desert city. 42 00:01:45,164 --> 00:01:46,997 I'm driving over to meet a guy named nick. 43 00:01:47,099 --> 00:01:49,267 Now, nick's a retired cop like me, 44 00:01:49,369 --> 00:01:50,835 not the kind of guy who scares easy, 45 00:01:50,937 --> 00:01:52,036 but he says what's 46 00:01:52,139 --> 00:01:54,874 going on in his house is insane. 47 00:01:54,976 --> 00:01:56,609 He thinks everyone's in danger, 48 00:01:56,711 --> 00:01:59,045 especially his nine-year-old son. 49 00:01:59,148 --> 00:02:01,816 He point blank asked me cop the cop to help protect 50 00:02:01,918 --> 00:02:03,217 his family, 51 00:02:03,319 --> 00:02:04,418 so I hope we can help him out. 52 00:02:04,521 --> 00:02:14,398 ♪♪ 53 00:02:14,500 --> 00:02:16,233 amy: Oh, man. 54 00:02:16,335 --> 00:02:18,803 I see something, like, hissing and growling, 55 00:02:22,744 --> 00:02:24,610 and then I hear skinwalker. 56 00:02:25,713 --> 00:02:29,983 I'm able to somehow see it in the dark clearly. 57 00:02:31,421 --> 00:02:34,990 I see it running, and I'm thinking, 58 00:02:35,092 --> 00:02:37,359 "what is it running from?" 59 00:02:38,396 --> 00:02:40,997 which is a terrifying thought. 60 00:02:48,876 --> 00:02:50,642 Steve: So, nick, when you and I spoke on the phone, 61 00:02:50,744 --> 00:02:52,345 it sounded like you and the family are at 62 00:02:52,447 --> 00:02:53,479 your breaking point. 63 00:02:53,582 --> 00:02:55,048 What's it like here? 64 00:02:55,150 --> 00:02:57,585 I have been in four different shootouts, and I've been in 65 00:02:57,687 --> 00:03:00,355 sketchy situations as a cop, - right. 66 00:03:00,457 --> 00:03:03,725 And nothing on the street can prepare you for what 67 00:03:03,827 --> 00:03:05,127 is going on in my house. 68 00:03:06,264 --> 00:03:07,563 I've been in some shootings myself, 69 00:03:07,665 --> 00:03:11,001 so you telling me that tells me a lot of how bad it's got 70 00:03:11,103 --> 00:03:12,336 to be here for you guys. 71 00:03:12,438 --> 00:03:13,438 Let's get some of the basics. 72 00:03:13,540 --> 00:03:14,706 Now, how long have you lived here? 73 00:03:14,808 --> 00:03:16,875 Um, a little over two and 1/2 years. 74 00:03:16,978 --> 00:03:18,944 Okay, did the previous owners tell you anything? 75 00:03:19,046 --> 00:03:21,248 Um, no. However, my wife's aunt used 76 00:03:21,350 --> 00:03:23,883 to own the house for over 35 years. 77 00:03:23,986 --> 00:03:26,454 All right, so who all lives in the house now? 78 00:03:28,224 --> 00:03:29,391 Here's a picture. 79 00:03:29,493 --> 00:03:31,159 That's my wife, desiree. 80 00:03:31,262 --> 00:03:32,527 That's my oldest son, brennan, 81 00:03:32,630 --> 00:03:34,864 he's 15 -- my oldest daughter, natalie, 82 00:03:34,966 --> 00:03:37,500 she's 17 -- my youngest daughter, trinity, 83 00:03:37,602 --> 00:03:39,870 she's 13 -- and that's young connor. 84 00:03:39,972 --> 00:03:41,872 - He's nine. - Okay, so now you mentioned 85 00:03:41,975 --> 00:03:44,509 connor on the phone, um, 86 00:03:44,611 --> 00:03:46,245 that he was the one you were most concerned about. 87 00:03:46,347 --> 00:03:48,748 Yes, I think he's being possessed. 88 00:03:48,850 --> 00:03:54,087 He wakes up crying, and when I go into his room, 89 00:03:54,189 --> 00:03:57,258 he's sitting up in his bed staring into his closet, 90 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:58,794 and I have asked him, 91 00:03:58,896 --> 00:04:00,629 I said, "what -- what is in here? 92 00:04:00,731 --> 00:04:02,431 Why -- what are you talking to?" 93 00:04:02,533 --> 00:04:04,934 and he says, "I can't tell you. It'll kill me." 94 00:04:05,971 --> 00:04:07,672 any indication he's being hurt? 95 00:04:07,774 --> 00:04:08,973 He has been scratched. 96 00:04:10,276 --> 00:04:11,242 Okay. 97 00:04:12,379 --> 00:04:15,815 - Ooh, okay. - It kills me to see something 98 00:04:15,917 --> 00:04:18,785 attacking my son -- comes to the point to where I just -- 99 00:04:18,887 --> 00:04:20,020 sometimes, you just feel like 100 00:04:20,122 --> 00:04:21,488 setting the whole damn house on fire. 101 00:04:22,792 --> 00:04:23,824 How about the rest of you? 102 00:04:23,927 --> 00:04:25,160 What are you guys experiencing? 103 00:04:25,262 --> 00:04:27,996 So there's objects that are being moved around the house. 104 00:04:28,099 --> 00:04:29,899 We see shadow people, 105 00:04:30,001 --> 00:04:31,734 apparitions, 106 00:04:31,836 --> 00:04:35,138 physical attacks, and something's mimicking other 107 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,008 family members in the house. 108 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:39,043 - Their voices? - Their voices. 109 00:04:39,145 --> 00:04:41,447 I mean, your family obviously means a lot to you. 110 00:04:41,549 --> 00:04:42,948 They're in my world. 111 00:04:43,050 --> 00:04:45,418 They're my world, and I can't -- 112 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,153 I can't see them go through this anymore. 113 00:04:51,627 --> 00:04:53,662 Amy: I do believe there is a skinwalker here. 114 00:04:56,300 --> 00:04:57,900 So what exactly is this thing? 115 00:04:58,002 --> 00:05:00,870 It's a deceased native american 116 00:05:00,972 --> 00:05:04,041 who was, and is, a witch. 117 00:05:07,781 --> 00:05:10,282 How is this skinwalker affecting the living? 118 00:05:10,385 --> 00:05:13,252 It's imitating and taking on 119 00:05:13,354 --> 00:05:16,156 the forms of the living here, 120 00:05:16,258 --> 00:05:17,691 family members. 121 00:05:17,793 --> 00:05:20,895 It makes you think you're going insane. 122 00:05:22,098 --> 00:05:24,366 - Is it dangerous? - Amy: Yeah. 123 00:05:24,468 --> 00:05:28,138 It could take over people, uh, 124 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:29,672 if it wanted to. 125 00:05:29,775 --> 00:05:32,309 And what would happen if it did take somebody over? 126 00:05:32,412 --> 00:05:34,879 Well, it's a type of, you know, possession. 127 00:05:39,253 --> 00:05:40,953 Steve: So what's going on in here? 128 00:05:41,055 --> 00:05:43,657 Well, in here, I've felt two large hands 129 00:05:43,759 --> 00:05:45,993 push me off the step. 130 00:05:46,095 --> 00:05:47,762 Steve: You sure you didn't trip? 131 00:05:47,864 --> 00:05:49,731 I'm sure, because it was right before I got 132 00:05:49,833 --> 00:05:53,202 to the step to step down. - Huh, that's a little freaky. 133 00:05:53,304 --> 00:05:55,237 And I'm a big guy, so if it can happen to me, 134 00:05:55,339 --> 00:05:56,873 that's a lot of power -- it can happen... 135 00:05:56,975 --> 00:05:58,608 - Right. ...To one of my other kids. 136 00:05:58,710 --> 00:06:00,645 I mean, you were a cop. 137 00:06:00,747 --> 00:06:03,047 If somebody just told you that, what would you...? 138 00:06:03,149 --> 00:06:05,651 I'd think they're **** crazy. - Right. 139 00:06:05,753 --> 00:06:07,119 Okay, so anything else? 140 00:06:07,221 --> 00:06:09,789 I've actually woken up with bruises on my body. 141 00:06:09,891 --> 00:06:11,925 I thought it might be from me bumping into something, 142 00:06:12,027 --> 00:06:15,696 but it's on a place on my body that I can't bump into, 143 00:06:15,798 --> 00:06:17,332 like on my sternum. 144 00:06:17,434 --> 00:06:18,700 You havin' any health issues? 145 00:06:18,802 --> 00:06:20,869 No. No health issues at all. 146 00:06:21,004 --> 00:06:23,606 - Anything else? - I've seen probably around 147 00:06:23,708 --> 00:06:26,009 10 different types of shadow figures myself. 148 00:06:26,111 --> 00:06:27,978 Sometimes it'll be a group, 149 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,781 and sometimes it's just like a parade. 150 00:06:29,883 --> 00:06:31,516 One of them has a wide-brim hat on. 151 00:06:32,686 --> 00:06:33,685 You got a problem here. 152 00:06:38,327 --> 00:06:40,160 Amy: I see dead people. 153 00:06:40,262 --> 00:06:42,095 There's a group of them down there. 154 00:06:44,934 --> 00:06:46,300 They seem agitated. 155 00:06:51,576 --> 00:06:56,580 So there's something happening with the dead folks, 156 00:06:56,682 --> 00:07:00,185 and I guess they're not good people. 157 00:07:00,287 --> 00:07:01,253 And... 158 00:07:03,925 --> 00:07:05,825 They are coming here. 159 00:07:06,895 --> 00:07:08,295 They're all men, 160 00:07:08,397 --> 00:07:10,163 criminals or something. 161 00:07:11,868 --> 00:07:17,573 So people here are seeing these dead men. 162 00:07:17,675 --> 00:07:19,708 I'm seeing them as shadow people, 163 00:07:19,810 --> 00:07:21,678 and I'm just seeing them like, literally, 164 00:07:21,780 --> 00:07:24,215 like walking across the room. 165 00:07:24,317 --> 00:07:28,019 These men come in here at night 166 00:07:28,121 --> 00:07:32,157 and, like, just... Watch. 167 00:07:35,730 --> 00:07:38,832 I don't think that these men are particularly 168 00:07:38,935 --> 00:07:41,236 stable mentally, 169 00:07:41,338 --> 00:07:43,605 but they're just kind of torturing them, 170 00:07:43,707 --> 00:07:44,639 but that's fun. 171 00:07:46,311 --> 00:07:47,443 After talking with nick, 172 00:07:47,545 --> 00:07:49,580 I want to see what his kids have to say. 173 00:07:49,682 --> 00:07:52,182 So I've seen, like, a lot of, like, 174 00:07:52,284 --> 00:07:55,587 black apparitions, especially, like, right here in the hallway. 175 00:07:55,689 --> 00:07:57,255 How big are we talking? 176 00:07:57,357 --> 00:08:01,060 I would say as tall as, like, an average-sized person. 177 00:08:01,162 --> 00:08:03,496 Steve: All of them are having bad experiences. 178 00:08:03,599 --> 00:08:05,198 I've heard voices. 179 00:08:05,300 --> 00:08:07,401 It sounds like my mom and dad, like, saying my name. 180 00:08:07,537 --> 00:08:08,903 So what do the voices say? 181 00:08:09,005 --> 00:08:10,472 Just call you out -- your name, or...? 182 00:08:10,574 --> 00:08:13,175 They say, "trinity come here." or "trin!" 183 00:08:13,277 --> 00:08:14,209 steve: But what's got me 184 00:08:14,311 --> 00:08:16,546 really concerned are the physical attacks. 185 00:08:16,648 --> 00:08:19,249 I've woken up to, uh, scratches 186 00:08:19,352 --> 00:08:21,452 on my stomach area. - Okay. 187 00:08:24,324 --> 00:08:25,890 - This is your stomach? - Yes. 188 00:08:25,993 --> 00:08:27,927 So, brennan, you sleep here with connor, correct? 189 00:08:28,062 --> 00:08:30,997 - Yes. - Now everybody seems to think 190 00:08:31,099 --> 00:08:33,567 that he's being picked on by the paranormal here. 191 00:08:33,669 --> 00:08:34,835 Do you agree with that? 192 00:08:34,937 --> 00:08:37,739 Yeah, I know something's, you know, trying to hurt him, 193 00:08:37,841 --> 00:08:38,740 and like, 194 00:08:38,842 --> 00:08:40,643 it hurts me knowing that. - Right, yeah. 195 00:08:40,745 --> 00:08:43,312 - You're his big brother. - Yeah, I can't do nothing. 196 00:08:46,018 --> 00:08:48,886 So, connor, everybody's worried about you. 197 00:08:48,988 --> 00:08:51,255 Do you want to leave? 198 00:08:51,357 --> 00:08:54,726 - Yes. I don't like it here. - Okay. 199 00:08:54,828 --> 00:08:57,497 I remember seeing a shadow in the closet. 200 00:08:57,599 --> 00:09:00,600 I just always felt nervous about that closet. 201 00:09:00,703 --> 00:09:02,736 Well, what if we could figure out a way to fix 202 00:09:02,838 --> 00:09:04,405 all the bad things that are going on? 203 00:09:04,507 --> 00:09:05,807 I would stay if you fix this, 204 00:09:05,909 --> 00:09:08,376 but if you don't, we're gonna have to move. 205 00:09:08,478 --> 00:09:10,780 What do you think is going on in this place? 206 00:09:10,882 --> 00:09:13,082 - I don't know. - Okay. 207 00:09:13,151 --> 00:09:15,819 But I know whatever it is, it's bad. 208 00:09:15,921 --> 00:09:17,455 All right. 209 00:09:20,060 --> 00:09:21,660 Amy: These shadow-looking criminal guys 210 00:09:21,762 --> 00:09:23,028 like this room. 211 00:09:24,832 --> 00:09:26,433 They're coming in and out of the closet. 212 00:09:27,803 --> 00:09:29,869 Hmm, that's not cool. 213 00:09:32,542 --> 00:09:36,578 These guys are getting physical with kids. 214 00:09:40,051 --> 00:09:41,250 What are they doing? 215 00:09:41,352 --> 00:09:42,853 Shoving... 216 00:09:42,955 --> 00:09:44,154 Like, nudging. 217 00:09:45,257 --> 00:09:47,592 They like when the children cry. 218 00:09:48,862 --> 00:09:52,031 They're, like, hurting these kids, like, 219 00:09:52,133 --> 00:09:53,866 I feel like they're hurting them. 220 00:09:56,805 --> 00:09:58,138 Oh, this is upsetting. 221 00:10:00,877 --> 00:10:02,844 [ ghostly whispers ] 222 00:10:07,051 --> 00:10:09,519 [ ghostly whispers ] 223 00:10:10,789 --> 00:10:13,457 [ birds chirping ] 224 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:18,296 ♪♪ 225 00:10:18,398 --> 00:10:20,633 - I was talking to your husband. - Yeah. 226 00:10:20,735 --> 00:10:23,102 Obviously, you guys got a lot going on here. 227 00:10:23,204 --> 00:10:25,005 He thinks it's dangerous. 228 00:10:25,107 --> 00:10:26,940 I mean, what's your thoughts on that? 229 00:10:27,042 --> 00:10:30,512 I definitely think it's become increasingly dangerous. 230 00:10:30,614 --> 00:10:32,447 I'm really worried about connor. 231 00:10:32,549 --> 00:10:34,116 Whatever is in the house, 232 00:10:35,620 --> 00:10:38,655 it seems to be concentrating on him. 233 00:10:38,757 --> 00:10:40,357 It's gotta be hard for a mom to see that. 234 00:10:40,459 --> 00:10:42,093 It is very hard. 235 00:10:42,195 --> 00:10:43,761 Okay. 236 00:10:43,863 --> 00:10:46,598 The emotional trauma it's causing him, 237 00:10:46,700 --> 00:10:48,233 he shouldn't have to go through that. 238 00:10:49,303 --> 00:10:51,638 Now, as far as experiences, have you had any? 239 00:10:51,740 --> 00:10:53,173 - Yes. - Okay. 240 00:10:53,308 --> 00:10:54,708 I hear male voices. 241 00:10:54,811 --> 00:10:56,277 Did it sound like anybody you knew? 242 00:10:56,379 --> 00:10:57,878 - No. No. - Okay. 243 00:10:57,980 --> 00:10:59,815 He kept telling me, "you need to help me. 244 00:10:59,917 --> 00:11:01,049 I want you to help me." 245 00:11:01,151 --> 00:11:03,152 and he wanted me to go to 246 00:11:03,254 --> 00:11:06,189 the police department and tell them he was dead. 247 00:11:06,291 --> 00:11:07,958 His body was in the wash. 248 00:11:08,060 --> 00:11:10,460 What does that mean here, in the wash? 249 00:11:10,563 --> 00:11:13,431 Behind our house is the pantano wash 250 00:11:13,533 --> 00:11:17,303 where water will flow when we have monsoons. 251 00:11:17,405 --> 00:11:19,973 Okay, did anything ever come of it 252 00:11:20,075 --> 00:11:21,208 that you know of? 253 00:11:21,310 --> 00:11:23,578 Well, six months later, they did find a body 254 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:25,079 in the wash. 255 00:11:26,883 --> 00:11:28,050 Was it a male? 256 00:11:28,152 --> 00:11:29,818 Yeah, it was a male. 257 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,053 Well, I don't know if there's any connection 258 00:11:31,155 --> 00:11:33,022 between what you heard and what happened, 259 00:11:33,124 --> 00:11:34,357 but I'll look into it anyway 260 00:11:34,459 --> 00:11:36,293 and see what we come up with. - Okay. 261 00:11:36,395 --> 00:11:38,262 - Anything else? - Everybody in the house 262 00:11:38,364 --> 00:11:41,600 has just been -- their moods have slowly declined 263 00:11:41,702 --> 00:11:45,204 from extremely happy-go-lucky 264 00:11:45,306 --> 00:11:48,408 to depressed, angry. 265 00:11:48,510 --> 00:11:50,811 So you guys have been here kind of a short time. 266 00:11:50,913 --> 00:11:52,914 Did you have any of these emotional problems 267 00:11:53,016 --> 00:11:54,616 as far as mood swings and stuff... 268 00:11:55,719 --> 00:11:57,786 Before you got here? - No, I mean, 269 00:11:57,889 --> 00:11:59,989 all families bicker on and off, - right. 270 00:12:00,091 --> 00:12:03,927 But not to level that it's at now. 271 00:12:08,501 --> 00:12:13,372 Amy: So there's a woman here who's crying lot. 272 00:12:13,474 --> 00:12:15,541 She's probably in her fifties. 273 00:12:15,644 --> 00:12:19,380 The living here are having experiences with her. 274 00:12:21,684 --> 00:12:23,919 I think she's an empath, 275 00:12:24,021 --> 00:12:27,256 but some empaths who don't function quite right 276 00:12:27,358 --> 00:12:29,358 can put 277 00:12:29,460 --> 00:12:33,463 their emotions very, very physically 278 00:12:33,565 --> 00:12:35,199 onto another person. 279 00:12:37,170 --> 00:12:42,574 They would feel the guilt, the weight of the guilt, 280 00:12:42,677 --> 00:12:45,812 and it's affecting, like, their stomach, 281 00:12:45,914 --> 00:12:49,083 feeling that knot and that rock, 282 00:12:49,185 --> 00:12:51,253 um, 283 00:12:51,355 --> 00:12:53,855 and the heavy heart. 284 00:12:54,892 --> 00:12:56,125 So desiree, when I was talking to nick, 285 00:12:56,227 --> 00:12:57,660 he was telling me that your aunt lived here? 286 00:12:57,762 --> 00:13:00,831 Yeah, my aunt purchased the home in the early '70s, 287 00:13:00,933 --> 00:13:03,600 and my grandmother moved over from europe. 288 00:13:03,703 --> 00:13:06,738 My aunt is on the top, and my grandmother is on the bottom. 289 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,741 That picture was actually taken 290 00:13:08,843 --> 00:13:10,409 for my grandmother's 100th birthday. 291 00:13:10,511 --> 00:13:12,446 - She was 100? - She was 100. 292 00:13:12,548 --> 00:13:14,481 All right, so what can you tell me about your aunt? 293 00:13:14,583 --> 00:13:16,249 She was very maternal. 294 00:13:16,352 --> 00:13:19,253 She taught me how to cook. She taught me how to sew. 295 00:13:19,356 --> 00:13:21,056 She taught me how to be a mom. 296 00:13:22,059 --> 00:13:24,894 Okay, and what about your grandma? 297 00:13:24,963 --> 00:13:27,731 She was such a spitfire. 298 00:13:27,833 --> 00:13:30,167 She stood about four foot 11. 299 00:13:30,269 --> 00:13:34,573 She would light up the room with her jokes and her stories. 300 00:13:34,675 --> 00:13:37,377 - Okay, who died first? - My grandmother. 301 00:13:37,479 --> 00:13:39,579 She slipped and fell in the shower. 302 00:13:39,681 --> 00:13:41,615 That must have been tough for you and your aunt. 303 00:13:41,717 --> 00:13:43,584 Yeah, after my grandmother passed, yeah. 304 00:13:43,686 --> 00:13:45,652 Her and I had a falling out. 305 00:13:45,756 --> 00:13:47,322 Why? 306 00:13:47,424 --> 00:13:48,990 Because I... 307 00:13:49,092 --> 00:13:50,359 Think that she had something 308 00:13:50,461 --> 00:13:52,595 to do with my grandmother's accident. 309 00:13:53,698 --> 00:13:54,798 I think that... 310 00:13:56,568 --> 00:13:58,369 My aunt... 311 00:13:58,471 --> 00:14:01,172 Might have inadvertently pushed her. 312 00:14:01,274 --> 00:14:03,575 She was frustrated of being her caretaker. 313 00:14:03,677 --> 00:14:05,511 So did you confront your aunt on this? 314 00:14:05,613 --> 00:14:07,881 I did -- her and I had a conversation 315 00:14:08,984 --> 00:14:10,817 before she passed. 316 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,087 The first thing she said to me 317 00:14:13,189 --> 00:14:16,291 was, "I didn't do it on purpose." 318 00:14:16,393 --> 00:14:18,460 do you think either one of them are here? 319 00:14:18,562 --> 00:14:19,729 I would like to think they're not. 320 00:14:22,967 --> 00:14:24,635 The crying woman, 321 00:14:24,737 --> 00:14:28,106 she's very tiny -- kind of curly black hair. 322 00:14:28,208 --> 00:14:29,407 She's recent. 323 00:14:29,509 --> 00:14:32,311 Are you even dead? 324 00:14:32,413 --> 00:14:36,883 I would say, uh, within the last 10 years, 325 00:14:36,985 --> 00:14:40,922 and she's not indicating to me how she died. 326 00:14:41,024 --> 00:14:45,727 You know, there's this guilt and the sadness from this guilt. 327 00:14:49,701 --> 00:14:52,669 She feels like she 328 00:14:52,771 --> 00:14:56,807 put people into a very bad situation. 329 00:15:01,850 --> 00:15:03,483 Steve: So what's going on in here? 330 00:15:03,585 --> 00:15:06,954 When I'm in bed, um, I've been scratched. 331 00:15:08,891 --> 00:15:10,058 Okay, so this is your arm? 332 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,726 - Yes. - Could it have been the dog? 333 00:15:11,828 --> 00:15:13,228 No, there's no way. 334 00:15:13,330 --> 00:15:15,364 She stays at the very bottom of bed. 335 00:15:15,433 --> 00:15:16,332 Anything else like that? 336 00:15:16,434 --> 00:15:20,837 One night, I woke up to this 337 00:15:20,939 --> 00:15:22,907 on my right foot. 338 00:15:24,844 --> 00:15:26,545 This is very strange. 339 00:15:26,647 --> 00:15:29,448 You guys sleep with a heating blanket or anything? 340 00:15:29,550 --> 00:15:31,417 - No. - This is crazy. 341 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:32,685 It's very crazy. 342 00:15:32,787 --> 00:15:35,623 - Anything else? - We'll get thumps -- 343 00:15:35,725 --> 00:15:39,728 thumping, tapping on the window and on the walls, as well. 344 00:15:39,830 --> 00:15:41,696 What's the tapping on the wall sound like? 345 00:15:43,668 --> 00:15:44,634 [ knocks twice on wall ] 346 00:15:44,736 --> 00:15:46,202 how about the window? What's it sound like? 347 00:15:47,873 --> 00:15:50,174 [ taps four times on window ] 348 00:15:50,276 --> 00:15:52,110 what do you think it wants? 349 00:15:53,980 --> 00:15:57,049 It wants to hurt us, and I don't know why. 350 00:16:00,289 --> 00:16:01,588 Amy: I don't like the bed there. 351 00:16:04,694 --> 00:16:07,295 Something is trying to get in from outside. 352 00:16:07,397 --> 00:16:11,633 This thing is sticking its head and arms 353 00:16:11,735 --> 00:16:12,936 through the window 354 00:16:14,639 --> 00:16:18,142 and, like, trying to pull this person 355 00:16:18,244 --> 00:16:19,677 out the **** window. 356 00:16:21,181 --> 00:16:23,014 It wants to take this person. 357 00:16:23,116 --> 00:16:26,219 That thing -- that's a **** problem. 358 00:16:26,321 --> 00:16:28,654 - What is it? - It's a wendigo. 359 00:16:29,925 --> 00:16:31,959 I'm very confused, 360 00:16:32,061 --> 00:16:34,062 uh, by it 361 00:16:34,164 --> 00:16:35,496 even being here. 362 00:16:35,599 --> 00:16:37,198 Why are you confused about that? 363 00:16:37,300 --> 00:16:40,069 Because they are more northern. 364 00:16:40,171 --> 00:16:42,405 Like, nova scotia has wendigos, 365 00:16:42,507 --> 00:16:48,145 and it's a, like, supernatural entity. 366 00:16:48,248 --> 00:16:49,914 They can look different ways, 367 00:16:50,016 --> 00:16:52,618 but usually it's like an animal-man thing. 368 00:16:54,823 --> 00:16:55,955 Do you have any idea what would happen 369 00:16:56,057 --> 00:16:58,124 if it managed to get this person out? 370 00:16:58,226 --> 00:17:00,127 That would not be good. 371 00:17:00,229 --> 00:17:02,096 It usually kills them 372 00:17:02,198 --> 00:17:04,933 and, if I'm honest, I think it eats them. 373 00:17:05,035 --> 00:17:09,305 ♪♪ 374 00:17:09,407 --> 00:17:11,541 [ ghostly whispers ] 375 00:17:15,147 --> 00:17:17,715 [ ghostly whispers ] 376 00:17:21,889 --> 00:17:23,088 steve: Look, if you pick up a dart, 377 00:17:23,190 --> 00:17:25,058 put a blindfold on, and throw it at 378 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,327 a map of the u.S., chances are 379 00:17:27,429 --> 00:17:29,664 you're gonna land on some native american history. 380 00:17:29,766 --> 00:17:32,200 So when a local historian called and wanted to tell me 381 00:17:32,303 --> 00:17:34,469 about the local yaqui tribe, 382 00:17:34,571 --> 00:17:37,807 I wasn't into it, until she said, "this story is different." 383 00:17:37,909 --> 00:17:39,509 in this case, the american government 384 00:17:39,611 --> 00:17:41,078 actually tried to help the tribe out. 385 00:17:49,223 --> 00:17:52,525 So, bridgette, I appreciate you helping me out with this case. 386 00:17:52,627 --> 00:17:55,195 The yaqui indians -- what's the story with them? 387 00:17:55,297 --> 00:17:56,596 The pascua yaqui indians 388 00:17:56,699 --> 00:17:58,566 are indigenous to the tucson area 389 00:17:58,668 --> 00:17:59,901 and northern mexico. 390 00:18:00,970 --> 00:18:02,638 This tribe, what kind of people were they? 391 00:18:02,740 --> 00:18:04,139 They were very spiritual people. 392 00:18:04,241 --> 00:18:07,744 They believed the universe is on a lot of different planes. 393 00:18:07,846 --> 00:18:11,215 - Okay. -And they also believed that you were 394 00:18:11,317 --> 00:18:13,984 susceptible to witchcraft if you were weak in spirit. 395 00:18:14,087 --> 00:18:15,854 All right, so most of the native american tribes 396 00:18:15,956 --> 00:18:17,222 I've researched are pretty violent. 397 00:18:17,324 --> 00:18:18,358 What about these guys? 398 00:18:18,460 --> 00:18:20,093 They were very territorial. 399 00:18:20,195 --> 00:18:21,594 Their land was very sacred to them, 400 00:18:21,696 --> 00:18:24,131 and they would fight to the death to keep it in their hands. 401 00:18:24,233 --> 00:18:26,166 So, bridgette, on the phone, you mentioned that the american 402 00:18:26,268 --> 00:18:28,303 government actually helped this tribe, I mean, 403 00:18:28,405 --> 00:18:29,871 you don't hear about that too often -- what happened? 404 00:18:29,973 --> 00:18:33,776 Well, in 1810, mexico actually seceded from the spanish, 405 00:18:33,878 --> 00:18:36,079 - okay. - And they quickly demanded 406 00:18:36,181 --> 00:18:37,681 that the yaqui pay taxes. 407 00:18:37,783 --> 00:18:40,218 The yaqui completely refused to do that. 408 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,186 - Okay. - And the mexican government 409 00:18:42,288 --> 00:18:45,591 just caused battle over battle and just overwhelmed the yaqui. 410 00:18:45,693 --> 00:18:48,361 They killed them. They captured them. 411 00:18:48,463 --> 00:18:50,764 They took away their land, and they even sold them 412 00:18:50,866 --> 00:18:51,731 into slavery. 413 00:18:51,834 --> 00:18:53,901 So how's the american government help out? 414 00:18:54,003 --> 00:18:55,970 Well, the yaqui fled to the united states. 415 00:18:56,073 --> 00:18:58,807 - Okay. - And so in the 1960s, 416 00:18:58,909 --> 00:19:01,511 the american government granted them a lot of land 417 00:19:01,613 --> 00:19:02,678 south of tucson. 418 00:19:02,781 --> 00:19:04,615 Well, it's finally nice to hear a good story 419 00:19:04,717 --> 00:19:06,250 when it comes to native americans 420 00:19:06,352 --> 00:19:07,484 and the american government. 421 00:19:07,586 --> 00:19:08,519 It is. It's nice. 422 00:19:12,225 --> 00:19:15,528 There's just an enormous amount of land. 423 00:19:17,232 --> 00:19:19,533 And there are native americans. 424 00:19:19,635 --> 00:19:21,636 They are here, and... 425 00:19:21,738 --> 00:19:24,806 They're indicating that this is extremely, 426 00:19:24,908 --> 00:19:26,642 extremely sacred land. 427 00:19:27,912 --> 00:19:30,480 That skinwalker walks through it all, 428 00:19:30,582 --> 00:19:32,582 because it belongs to it. 429 00:19:32,684 --> 00:19:35,820 It was here first, essentially, this skinwalker. 430 00:19:35,922 --> 00:19:37,354 Do you know what it wants? 431 00:19:37,457 --> 00:19:40,992 It's just doing what it does. 432 00:19:41,094 --> 00:19:44,397 I know that it's not only at this house. 433 00:19:44,499 --> 00:19:47,201 It's all over a very wide area. 434 00:19:48,704 --> 00:19:50,471 Steve: So desiree told me a male body 435 00:19:50,574 --> 00:19:52,607 turned up in the wash right near her house. 436 00:19:52,709 --> 00:19:55,845 Now, clients get this kind of stuff wrong all the time, 437 00:19:55,947 --> 00:19:58,214 but I had a local pi look into it for me. 438 00:19:58,316 --> 00:20:00,183 Turns out, desiree was right. 439 00:20:00,285 --> 00:20:02,586 In fact, a whole bunch of bodies have turned up there. 440 00:20:07,962 --> 00:20:09,294 So amy, I appreciate you meeting with me 441 00:20:09,396 --> 00:20:11,129 and helpin' me out with my case. 442 00:20:11,232 --> 00:20:14,267 You had mentioned a lot of bodies show up in this wash, 443 00:20:14,369 --> 00:20:15,568 but one stood out in particular. 444 00:20:15,670 --> 00:20:17,505 - Which one was it? - His name was carl martin. 445 00:20:17,607 --> 00:20:19,440 Okay, so when did they find him? 446 00:20:19,542 --> 00:20:21,810 They found him in July of 1986. 447 00:20:21,912 --> 00:20:25,848 The body was located 3,500 feet from your clients' residence. 448 00:20:25,950 --> 00:20:28,285 It was in this wash that runs 449 00:20:28,387 --> 00:20:31,255 all the way down to your clients' property. 450 00:20:31,357 --> 00:20:33,358 Steve: Okay, so this guy is less than a mile from my clients' house. 451 00:20:33,460 --> 00:20:34,425 - Amy urman: Yes. - All right. 452 00:20:34,528 --> 00:20:36,427 So July '86, this is tucson. 453 00:20:36,530 --> 00:20:37,663 What kind of shape was the body in? 454 00:20:37,765 --> 00:20:39,265 It was badly decomposed. 455 00:20:39,367 --> 00:20:40,633 It was wrapped in sheets. 456 00:20:40,735 --> 00:20:42,569 There was plastic over the head, 457 00:20:42,671 --> 00:20:43,803 and I don't know if you can 458 00:20:43,906 --> 00:20:46,240 even imagine the stench that was coming from the body. 459 00:20:46,342 --> 00:20:47,575 I was a cop a long time. 460 00:20:47,677 --> 00:20:50,546 Trust me, I can exactly tell you how it smelled. 461 00:20:50,648 --> 00:20:51,980 What's the story with this guy? 462 00:20:52,082 --> 00:20:55,718 Well, carl martin had been in prison for forging checks, 463 00:20:55,820 --> 00:20:57,655 and he was on parole at the time. - Okay. 464 00:20:57,757 --> 00:20:59,189 But he was also under surveillance 465 00:20:59,292 --> 00:21:01,492 by the police department, because he owned 466 00:21:01,594 --> 00:21:03,295 a automobile shop, and they thought that 467 00:21:03,397 --> 00:21:05,030 he was running what they believed 468 00:21:05,132 --> 00:21:06,299 to be a chop shop. 469 00:21:06,401 --> 00:21:10,002 By March of 1986, it ends up that he stops coming to 470 00:21:10,104 --> 00:21:12,239 the shop, and shortly after that, 471 00:21:12,341 --> 00:21:14,742 his wife, martha, reports him missing. 472 00:21:14,844 --> 00:21:17,011 All right, so now the wife reports him missing. 473 00:21:17,113 --> 00:21:19,982 His body shows up in July of '86. 474 00:21:20,084 --> 00:21:21,650 How'd they find out the body was there? 475 00:21:21,752 --> 00:21:23,887 Well, they got a tip, and their tip was to 476 00:21:23,989 --> 00:21:26,323 talk to a gentleman by the name of richard hale. 477 00:21:26,425 --> 00:21:27,425 And who's richard hale? 478 00:21:27,527 --> 00:21:29,493 He was a friend and a co-worker of our victim. 479 00:21:29,596 --> 00:21:31,530 All right, so I gotta assume the cops picked this guy up. 480 00:21:31,632 --> 00:21:32,764 What does he tell them? 481 00:21:32,866 --> 00:21:35,602 Well, he tells them that martha was having an affair 482 00:21:35,704 --> 00:21:38,037 with their roommate, ronald gomes. 483 00:21:38,139 --> 00:21:39,873 Okay, so now we got 484 00:21:39,976 --> 00:21:41,208 a husband and wife living with a guy, 485 00:21:41,277 --> 00:21:42,476 and the guy that's living with them, 486 00:21:42,578 --> 00:21:44,946 this ronald gomes, is having an affair with martha. 487 00:21:45,048 --> 00:21:46,648 - Correct. - Okay, does he tell them 488 00:21:46,750 --> 00:21:48,017 anything else? - Yes. 489 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,686 He says that the three of them believed that they were 490 00:21:50,788 --> 00:21:53,690 being cheated out of some of the profits from the chop shop. 491 00:21:53,792 --> 00:21:55,692 So now we got motive. What do they do about it? 492 00:21:55,761 --> 00:21:57,862 Well, March 12, 1986, 493 00:21:57,964 --> 00:22:01,166 hale takes a 25-caliber gun, goes to the bedroom, 494 00:22:01,268 --> 00:22:02,868 and shoots him while he's sleeping. 495 00:22:02,970 --> 00:22:04,704 All right, so he shoots him once. 496 00:22:04,806 --> 00:22:07,474 - Is he dead? - No, no, he's not dead. 497 00:22:07,576 --> 00:22:10,111 So what happens next is gomes goes in 498 00:22:10,213 --> 00:22:12,246 and empties the gun into the body. 499 00:22:12,348 --> 00:22:14,850 - Okay. - Then he takes a sledgehammer, 500 00:22:14,952 --> 00:22:16,785 and he hits him in the head a couple times. 501 00:22:16,887 --> 00:22:20,456 - Okay. -Gomes then strangles him until he dies. 502 00:22:20,558 --> 00:22:22,092 So what happens to hale with all this? 503 00:22:22,194 --> 00:22:24,161 Well hale cuts a plea agreement, 504 00:22:24,263 --> 00:22:26,064 and he ends up serving 15 years. 505 00:22:26,166 --> 00:22:27,499 All right, what about the wife, martha? 506 00:22:27,601 --> 00:22:30,069 Martha got life, but she was out on parole 507 00:22:30,171 --> 00:22:31,270 in 1998. 508 00:22:31,372 --> 00:22:32,805 All right, so what about the roommate, gomes? 509 00:22:32,907 --> 00:22:35,142 He had two mistrials, and the prosecutors 510 00:22:35,244 --> 00:22:37,010 decided not to try him a third time. 511 00:22:37,112 --> 00:22:39,313 You weren't kidding when you said this was a crazy story. 512 00:22:43,087 --> 00:22:47,657 I see a male with a wound in his head, 513 00:22:47,759 --> 00:22:50,293 and I see damage around his neck. 514 00:22:50,395 --> 00:22:52,329 He's decomposing. 515 00:22:52,432 --> 00:22:56,501 He has ashy -- weird, ashy-colored skin. 516 00:22:56,603 --> 00:22:59,004 Uh, and he's trapped in his body. 517 00:22:59,106 --> 00:23:04,445 He indicated that he's not the issue here. 518 00:23:04,547 --> 00:23:05,479 It's the monster. 519 00:23:10,187 --> 00:23:12,755 [ ghostly whispers ] 520 00:23:13,758 --> 00:23:16,326 for more information about the show, and if you need us 521 00:23:16,428 --> 00:23:18,995 to investigate unexplained activity in your home... 522 00:23:19,098 --> 00:23:22,500 Please visit travelchannel. Com/ thedeadfiles. 523 00:23:22,602 --> 00:23:24,903 Click on "help me dead files" to submit your story, 524 00:23:25,005 --> 00:23:25,904 and we'll help if we can. 525 00:23:29,144 --> 00:23:31,211 [ ghostly whispers ] 526 00:23:34,083 --> 00:23:35,783 steve: So far, I have a family terrified 527 00:23:35,885 --> 00:23:38,220 something in their house is trying to kill them 528 00:23:38,322 --> 00:23:40,655 on a property where a decomposing body was found 529 00:23:40,758 --> 00:23:42,425 in a nearby wash. 530 00:23:42,527 --> 00:23:43,926 But I want to see if there's anything else. 531 00:23:46,832 --> 00:23:49,734 Searching through old records, I find a deadly plane crash. 532 00:23:49,836 --> 00:23:52,937 Turns out, the pilot used to rent nick and desiree's house. 533 00:23:55,176 --> 00:23:56,142 I'm on my way to meet 534 00:23:56,244 --> 00:23:58,779 a local journalist who's helped me out before, 535 00:23:58,881 --> 00:24:01,348 and he says the crash remains a mystery to this day. 536 00:24:01,450 --> 00:24:10,159 ♪♪ 537 00:24:10,261 --> 00:24:11,427 well, dave, it's good to see you again. 538 00:24:11,530 --> 00:24:12,662 I appreciate you helping me out. 539 00:24:12,764 --> 00:24:14,832 So the guy that dies in this plane crash, 540 00:24:14,934 --> 00:24:16,433 what do we know about this guy? 541 00:24:16,536 --> 00:24:17,768 Well, his name was norman hurst, 542 00:24:17,870 --> 00:24:19,104 and he was born in new jersey. 543 00:24:19,206 --> 00:24:21,640 He went on to attend a prestigious boarding school, 544 00:24:21,742 --> 00:24:23,910 attended virginia tech, and ultimately ended up 545 00:24:23,978 --> 00:24:25,211 in the u.S. Air force. 546 00:24:25,313 --> 00:24:27,079 I just happen to have a picture of him here. 547 00:24:28,684 --> 00:24:29,783 All right, so dave, 548 00:24:29,885 --> 00:24:31,853 I got to assume this is where he learned how to fly. 549 00:24:31,955 --> 00:24:34,656 That's correct, and he was a phenomenal pilot. 550 00:24:34,758 --> 00:24:38,494 During the vietnam war, he flew 228 missions, 551 00:24:38,596 --> 00:24:42,165 90 of them over enemy territory in north vietnam. 552 00:24:42,267 --> 00:24:44,202 He was so good that he even 553 00:24:44,304 --> 00:24:47,438 earned the distinguished flying cross for his service. 554 00:24:47,540 --> 00:24:48,740 Okay, so he's gotta be some pilot. 555 00:24:48,843 --> 00:24:50,509 They don't just give those medals out. 556 00:24:50,611 --> 00:24:52,110 They definitely do not. 557 00:24:52,213 --> 00:24:55,448 Okay, so when does he wind up at my clients' house? 558 00:24:55,550 --> 00:24:58,252 Well, in 1966, he accepted a job as 559 00:24:58,354 --> 00:25:01,623 a flight instructor at the davis-monthan air force base. 560 00:25:01,725 --> 00:25:03,058 - Okay. - And like many airmen 561 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,662 in the area, he ended up renting a home nearby the base, 562 00:25:06,764 --> 00:25:08,764 and that's how he ended up in your clients' home. 563 00:25:08,867 --> 00:25:10,567 All right, so let's get to this crash -- what happened? 564 00:25:10,669 --> 00:25:13,003 It's September 15, 1969. 565 00:25:13,105 --> 00:25:14,873 It's 1:07 p.M. 566 00:25:14,975 --> 00:25:18,744 Hurst and a trainee take off for a routine exercise. 567 00:25:18,846 --> 00:25:22,716 They're in an f-4d phantom -- looks something like this. 568 00:25:24,987 --> 00:25:26,153 Steve: What happened next? 569 00:25:26,256 --> 00:25:29,257 So the two of them are doing combat maneuvers with three 570 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,526 other airplanes, and all of a sudden, 571 00:25:31,629 --> 00:25:34,096 hurts's plane just takes a nosedive, just starts heading 572 00:25:34,198 --> 00:25:36,432 straight down -- in order to save their lives, 573 00:25:36,534 --> 00:25:38,869 both hurst and the trainee eject, 574 00:25:38,971 --> 00:25:40,704 and the plane crashes directly into 575 00:25:40,806 --> 00:25:42,908 the tohono o'odham, an indian reservation. 576 00:25:43,010 --> 00:25:45,143 Okay, so I know hurst dies, obviously. 577 00:25:45,245 --> 00:25:46,177 What happened to the trainee? 578 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,414 The trainee barely had a scratch on him. 579 00:25:48,516 --> 00:25:50,917 And now, how old was hurst when he died? 580 00:25:51,019 --> 00:25:52,686 Hurst was only 40 years old. 581 00:25:52,788 --> 00:25:54,254 - Okay, so he was a young guy. - Yeah. 582 00:25:54,356 --> 00:25:56,624 Did they ever investigate and find out what 583 00:25:56,726 --> 00:25:57,859 the hell happened with the plane? 584 00:25:57,961 --> 00:25:59,394 An investigation was done, 585 00:25:59,496 --> 00:26:01,830 but the results are still classified at this point. 586 00:26:01,933 --> 00:26:04,000 I mean, it's a shame, this guy flies all those missions, 587 00:26:04,102 --> 00:26:07,370 no problems, in a combat zone, comes home to do 588 00:26:07,472 --> 00:26:08,706 a training exercise and get killed. 589 00:26:08,808 --> 00:26:09,807 It's a tragedy. 590 00:26:15,749 --> 00:26:16,783 Amy: I feel sick here. 591 00:26:16,885 --> 00:26:18,384 Oh, god. 592 00:26:18,486 --> 00:26:20,554 Oh, god, I feel really sick right here. 593 00:26:20,656 --> 00:26:27,128 ♪♪ 594 00:26:27,230 --> 00:26:29,131 I feel like somebody, like, died here. 595 00:26:29,233 --> 00:26:30,800 I just feel, like, 596 00:26:30,902 --> 00:26:32,435 pulled into the ground. 597 00:26:35,708 --> 00:26:37,842 I kind of want to say it was a male. 598 00:26:37,944 --> 00:26:38,977 This is not good. 599 00:26:41,849 --> 00:26:43,682 So I'm gonna just take a minute here. 600 00:26:50,860 --> 00:26:53,160 I saw several disturbing things on my walk, 601 00:26:53,262 --> 00:26:55,397 but two concerned me the most. 602 00:26:55,499 --> 00:26:56,698 First, the wendigo 603 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,769 trying to take a living woman from her bedroom. 604 00:26:59,871 --> 00:27:04,341 The best way I could describe this thing is as a clear energy, 605 00:27:04,443 --> 00:27:06,243 but in a contained form, 606 00:27:06,345 --> 00:27:11,183 uh, coming through the window and leaning over the headboard. 607 00:27:11,285 --> 00:27:14,587 It's kind of like pressing on her here. 608 00:27:14,689 --> 00:27:15,422 Okay. 609 00:27:15,524 --> 00:27:16,990 It was huge. 610 00:27:20,030 --> 00:27:23,164 Next, I described the woman I saw crying. 611 00:27:23,266 --> 00:27:26,135 She was fairly petite, heavyset. 612 00:27:26,237 --> 00:27:29,773 She had very thick, dark hair, 613 00:27:29,875 --> 00:27:32,710 55 to 60 years of age, 614 00:27:32,812 --> 00:27:34,845 and she was like this most of the time. 615 00:27:36,016 --> 00:27:37,949 Just make sure, like, the hair is thicker. 616 00:27:38,052 --> 00:27:39,518 - Yeah, mm-hmm. - With the curls. 617 00:27:39,620 --> 00:27:45,659 ♪♪ 618 00:27:45,761 --> 00:27:46,727 amy, is this who you saw? 619 00:27:48,464 --> 00:27:49,431 Yes. 620 00:27:52,002 --> 00:27:53,602 [ ghostly whispers ] 621 00:27:58,610 --> 00:28:00,310 [ ghostly whispers ] 622 00:28:00,412 --> 00:28:09,421 ♪♪ 623 00:28:09,524 --> 00:28:12,425 steve: Now that amy and I have completed our investigations, 624 00:28:12,527 --> 00:28:14,462 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 625 00:28:14,564 --> 00:28:17,098 and our clients for the first time. 626 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,135 Amy, I'd like you to meet nick and desiree. 627 00:28:20,237 --> 00:28:22,805 They're an amazing and loving couple, and, uh, 628 00:28:22,907 --> 00:28:25,908 they have four great kids. 629 00:28:26,010 --> 00:28:30,849 Now, nick's a former cop and a military vet, just like me. 630 00:28:30,951 --> 00:28:33,585 But he says if we can't help him, he thinks that whatever 631 00:28:33,687 --> 00:28:34,753 is here is gonna kill somebody. 632 00:28:35,857 --> 00:28:38,591 So unless amy's got some questions for you guys, 633 00:28:38,693 --> 00:28:40,026 she'll describe her walk first. 634 00:28:43,199 --> 00:28:47,870 So the first individual that I want to discuss was 635 00:28:47,972 --> 00:28:51,140 a male -- I would put him in his late thirties, 636 00:28:51,242 --> 00:28:52,275 early forties. 637 00:28:52,377 --> 00:28:54,410 So I was, like, in his body, 638 00:28:54,513 --> 00:28:58,215 and I could feel an impact to my head. 639 00:28:58,317 --> 00:29:02,154 I could feel my brain being injured, 640 00:29:02,256 --> 00:29:05,791 and I felt like I had been shot. 641 00:29:05,894 --> 00:29:07,660 Um... 642 00:29:07,762 --> 00:29:11,965 The body was in a really bad state of decomposition, 643 00:29:13,303 --> 00:29:16,271 very bloated and hard to really 644 00:29:16,373 --> 00:29:17,840 make out a lot of features. 645 00:29:17,942 --> 00:29:19,408 All right, so it's not a ton to go on, 646 00:29:19,510 --> 00:29:22,779 but the decomposing body, um, 647 00:29:22,881 --> 00:29:24,047 made me think about a murder victim 648 00:29:24,149 --> 00:29:25,183 named carl martin. 649 00:29:25,285 --> 00:29:26,984 His body was found in the wash 650 00:29:27,086 --> 00:29:28,653 that runs right behind your house here, 651 00:29:28,755 --> 00:29:31,223 back in the summer of '86. 652 00:29:31,325 --> 00:29:32,925 Martin had been dumped there and just left 653 00:29:33,027 --> 00:29:35,128 out there to decompose in the hot sun. 654 00:29:35,230 --> 00:29:38,199 Now you said the guy you saw was in his thirties or forties. 655 00:29:38,301 --> 00:29:40,434 Martin was 45 at the time of his death. 656 00:29:40,536 --> 00:29:42,003 So now the background on martin is that 657 00:29:42,072 --> 00:29:44,806 he was a small-time criminal that had 658 00:29:44,908 --> 00:29:47,076 a chop shop at the auto body shop he owned, 659 00:29:47,178 --> 00:29:49,712 and he had three partners -- his wife and two friends. 660 00:29:49,814 --> 00:29:51,081 Things got messy fast. 661 00:29:51,183 --> 00:29:53,483 They felt that he was cheating them out of 662 00:29:53,586 --> 00:29:56,254 some money when it came to the chop shop. 663 00:29:56,356 --> 00:29:59,792 So on the night of March 12, 1986, martin was sleeping 664 00:29:59,894 --> 00:30:00,893 when one of his partners 665 00:30:00,995 --> 00:30:02,628 named richard hale entered his bedroom 666 00:30:02,731 --> 00:30:04,497 and shot him in the head, 667 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,399 but that didn't kill him. - What? 668 00:30:06,535 --> 00:30:09,070 Hale then claims their other partner, ronald gomes, 669 00:30:09,172 --> 00:30:11,707 took the gun and emptied the rest of the magazine 670 00:30:11,809 --> 00:30:12,741 in his body, 671 00:30:12,843 --> 00:30:14,643 then he beat in his head with a sledgehammer, 672 00:30:15,947 --> 00:30:19,717 and then he strangled him. - Holy ****. 673 00:30:19,819 --> 00:30:21,218 So a few months later, his body 674 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,855 was discovered, and the three were arrested. 675 00:30:25,092 --> 00:30:26,157 This is the wild part, though. 676 00:30:26,260 --> 00:30:28,194 The only reason I looked into this is because 677 00:30:28,296 --> 00:30:29,929 of what you told me. 678 00:30:30,031 --> 00:30:32,266 I was laying in bed one night, 679 00:30:32,368 --> 00:30:35,936 and, um, there was a man that started talking to me 680 00:30:36,038 --> 00:30:37,872 and telling me his body was in the wash. 681 00:30:37,974 --> 00:30:40,008 He wanted me to go to the cops. 682 00:30:40,110 --> 00:30:42,177 Steve: Do you think this could be the guy you saw? 683 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,979 Yeah, very possible. 684 00:30:47,352 --> 00:30:51,022 The next person that I want to discuss is a female. 685 00:30:51,124 --> 00:30:53,625 She was petite, had thick, 686 00:30:53,727 --> 00:30:56,161 wavy black hair. 687 00:30:56,263 --> 00:30:59,332 She seemed to be extremely connected to this house. 688 00:30:59,434 --> 00:31:04,071 Her energy is very present here. 689 00:31:04,173 --> 00:31:06,841 I would put it within the last 10 years. 690 00:31:06,943 --> 00:31:10,913 She was pretty much hysterically crying. 691 00:31:11,015 --> 00:31:15,585 She feels an overwhelming amount of guilt and sadness. 692 00:31:15,688 --> 00:31:19,891 She feels responsible for what's going on here. 693 00:31:19,993 --> 00:31:23,395 So I do think that her emotions and her energy 694 00:31:23,497 --> 00:31:25,097 being here 695 00:31:25,199 --> 00:31:30,838 would affect the living and kind of make it miserable. 696 00:31:30,940 --> 00:31:33,341 Well, I think us three obviously know 697 00:31:33,443 --> 00:31:36,011 what she probably it talking about. 698 00:31:37,581 --> 00:31:39,215 - Yeah. - Talk about your grandmother 699 00:31:39,317 --> 00:31:40,383 and your aunt. 700 00:31:40,485 --> 00:31:44,188 Um, so this was, like, my second home growing up. 701 00:31:44,290 --> 00:31:46,623 My aunt owned the home, 702 00:31:46,726 --> 00:31:49,394 and my grandmother lived here. 703 00:31:49,496 --> 00:31:54,100 My grandmother passed away in, um, 2007. 704 00:31:54,202 --> 00:31:58,572 There was an accident in the master bathroom, and... 705 00:31:58,674 --> 00:32:01,509 [ sighs ] 706 00:32:01,611 --> 00:32:03,745 my aunt did it. 707 00:32:03,847 --> 00:32:06,248 She pushed her when she was in the shower. 708 00:32:06,350 --> 00:32:07,950 Amy: Oh, my god! 709 00:32:08,052 --> 00:32:10,987 Desiree here confronted the aunt about it. 710 00:32:11,089 --> 00:32:16,327 She told me she didn't mean for it to happen, 711 00:32:16,429 --> 00:32:17,529 and she was sorry. 712 00:32:17,631 --> 00:32:20,132 It was -- it was traumatic. 713 00:32:20,234 --> 00:32:22,168 You told me you aunt was like a second mom to you. 714 00:32:22,270 --> 00:32:24,270 She was. 715 00:32:24,372 --> 00:32:28,375 She taught me how to be a mom 716 00:32:28,477 --> 00:32:30,178 and how to be the person I am today. 717 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,047 So it was like betraying my mom. 718 00:32:34,252 --> 00:32:36,419 Now, she mentioned about how you guys 719 00:32:36,521 --> 00:32:40,056 may feel some of the emotions coming from this person. 720 00:32:40,159 --> 00:32:42,527 You guys been goin' through that, right? 721 00:32:42,629 --> 00:32:44,829 There's a lot of guilt and, like, anger 722 00:32:44,931 --> 00:32:46,364 in the whole family. 723 00:32:46,434 --> 00:32:49,234 Well, I know that the depression is -- 724 00:32:49,336 --> 00:32:52,605 is really bad. 725 00:32:52,707 --> 00:32:55,209 So I got a photo here of aunt mo, right? 726 00:32:55,311 --> 00:32:56,811 And your grandma. 727 00:32:56,913 --> 00:32:58,712 Uh, so could either one of these ladies 728 00:32:58,816 --> 00:33:01,116 be somebody that you ran into? 729 00:33:01,218 --> 00:33:02,184 I had a sketch done. 730 00:33:13,433 --> 00:33:15,467 You'd know best, desiree. 731 00:33:17,472 --> 00:33:18,871 That's your grandma's nose. 732 00:33:22,077 --> 00:33:23,276 Yep. 733 00:33:24,647 --> 00:33:26,514 The dark circles under her eyes. 734 00:33:26,616 --> 00:33:28,917 Yeah, and the smoker's... 735 00:33:29,019 --> 00:33:30,052 - Amy: Yes. - ...Mouth. 736 00:33:30,154 --> 00:33:31,419 Nick: Smoker's mouth, yeah. 737 00:33:31,489 --> 00:33:32,889 Steve: If it is your grandmother, and she's here, 738 00:33:32,991 --> 00:33:35,091 I mean, that's gotta break your heart, I would think. 739 00:33:35,193 --> 00:33:36,827 It does. 740 00:33:36,929 --> 00:33:38,829 I want her to be able to move on. 741 00:33:42,536 --> 00:33:43,969 Steve: Okay. So what else? 742 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,975 The next deceased individuals that I encountered 743 00:33:49,077 --> 00:33:52,679 are way more of an issue. 744 00:33:52,781 --> 00:33:56,751 I felt like the living, uh, here in the house 745 00:33:56,853 --> 00:33:58,320 would see them, 746 00:33:58,422 --> 00:34:00,189 but as shadow people. 747 00:34:00,291 --> 00:34:02,659 They're very invasive, very intrusive. 748 00:34:02,761 --> 00:34:06,497 One of the things I got in the bathroom was, like, 749 00:34:06,599 --> 00:34:08,766 they're in there watching, and then also 750 00:34:08,868 --> 00:34:10,702 in the master bedroom, 751 00:34:10,804 --> 00:34:11,870 they do this weird **** 752 00:34:11,972 --> 00:34:14,474 where they're just standing around the bed watching. 753 00:34:14,576 --> 00:34:16,276 Now, nick, you explained all different types 754 00:34:16,378 --> 00:34:17,677 of shadow people that you're seeing, right? 755 00:34:17,779 --> 00:34:21,115 Yeah, from one to three or four 756 00:34:21,217 --> 00:34:23,652 to, like, a parade coming down the hall. 757 00:34:23,754 --> 00:34:25,587 There have been times where I've seen them 758 00:34:25,689 --> 00:34:27,089 in the master bedroom. 759 00:34:27,191 --> 00:34:28,991 All the kids are seeing shadow figures, as well. 760 00:34:29,060 --> 00:34:30,560 Yeah, I'm not surprised by that. 761 00:34:30,662 --> 00:34:34,197 They are not mentally stable -- in the bedroom 762 00:34:34,300 --> 00:34:38,036 at the very end of the hall, - that's the boys' bedroom. 763 00:34:38,138 --> 00:34:41,941 To the right, in that room, they were coming out of 764 00:34:42,043 --> 00:34:43,442 the closet. 765 00:34:43,544 --> 00:34:44,644 Son of a ****. 766 00:34:44,746 --> 00:34:46,146 Amy: They are getting physical with them. 767 00:34:46,248 --> 00:34:47,982 I saw shoving. 768 00:34:48,084 --> 00:34:50,117 They like when the children cry. 769 00:34:51,688 --> 00:34:54,489 They're, like, hurting these kids. 770 00:34:54,592 --> 00:34:56,726 Like, I feel like they're hurting them. 771 00:34:59,164 --> 00:35:02,232 Steve: Well, one of the biggest reasons we're here is because 772 00:35:02,335 --> 00:35:04,268 these guys are worried about the safety of the kids, 773 00:35:04,370 --> 00:35:07,072 - amy: Yeah. Especially nine-year-old connor. 774 00:35:07,174 --> 00:35:09,241 - Yes. - Now do me a favor, nick. 775 00:35:09,344 --> 00:35:12,011 Explain to amy about that closet in the boys' room. 776 00:35:12,113 --> 00:35:16,183 So almost on a nightly basis, we will hear him crying. 777 00:35:16,285 --> 00:35:18,086 He'll be sitting up in bed 778 00:35:18,188 --> 00:35:20,388 talking in this -- in a language 779 00:35:20,490 --> 00:35:21,991 I don't know what the hell he's talking about. 780 00:35:22,093 --> 00:35:23,592 But he's talking at the closet, 781 00:35:23,694 --> 00:35:25,527 and I asked him, "who were you talking to? 782 00:35:25,631 --> 00:35:26,763 Why are you crying?" 783 00:35:26,865 --> 00:35:28,498 and he told me, "I can't tell you, 784 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:29,834 because they're gonna kill you." 785 00:35:31,070 --> 00:35:32,303 well, he wakes up with scratches, right? 786 00:35:32,405 --> 00:35:34,773 - You gave me a photo. - Yeah, he'll wake up with scratches. 787 00:35:35,776 --> 00:35:37,476 And, uh, brennan. 788 00:35:37,578 --> 00:35:39,612 - Yeah. - Brennan's his older brother. 789 00:35:39,714 --> 00:35:41,648 Got these three scratches going. 790 00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:43,884 Do we think this could be these 791 00:35:43,986 --> 00:35:45,152 **** comin' out of the closet? 792 00:35:45,254 --> 00:35:47,355 - Yeah, I do. - I want to kill 'em. 793 00:35:47,457 --> 00:35:48,623 Those are my babies. 794 00:35:52,063 --> 00:35:53,663 Steve: Okay, so anything else? 795 00:35:53,765 --> 00:35:56,400 Amy: When I got here, there were some deceased 796 00:35:56,502 --> 00:36:00,638 native americans -- like this was super, super sacred land. 797 00:36:00,740 --> 00:36:02,173 And there were two things, 798 00:36:02,275 --> 00:36:05,844 two monsters that are here and connected to them. 799 00:36:05,946 --> 00:36:08,248 So one of them is a skinwalker. 800 00:36:10,552 --> 00:36:12,153 So what exactly is this thing? 801 00:36:12,255 --> 00:36:17,025 It's a deceased native american who was, 802 00:36:17,127 --> 00:36:18,326 and is, a witch. 803 00:36:19,530 --> 00:36:24,200 What this one likes to do is to mimic humans. 804 00:36:26,772 --> 00:36:27,871 You guys are hearing voices 805 00:36:27,973 --> 00:36:30,608 that sounds like it's somebody in the family, right? 806 00:36:30,711 --> 00:36:32,210 - Yeah. - Yeah, we're at 807 00:36:32,312 --> 00:36:33,846 the other opposite ends of the house. 808 00:36:33,948 --> 00:36:36,248 I heard my name called and walked all the way 809 00:36:36,350 --> 00:36:38,218 to the other end of the house, and I said, "what? 810 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,153 What's up? What do you need?" 811 00:36:40,255 --> 00:36:43,224 - "I didn't call for you." - if this thing so chooses, 812 00:36:43,326 --> 00:36:48,097 it can, uh, choose to take over bodies, like a possession. 813 00:36:49,534 --> 00:36:50,533 It's probably a good time to share 814 00:36:50,635 --> 00:36:52,769 some native american history in the area. 815 00:36:52,871 --> 00:36:55,272 About 1,500 years ago, the yaqui tribe 816 00:36:55,374 --> 00:36:57,575 settled here and in northern mexico. 817 00:36:57,677 --> 00:36:59,211 I got a picture of these guys. 818 00:37:00,347 --> 00:37:01,646 So from what I was told, these guys were 819 00:37:01,749 --> 00:37:03,149 very spiritual. 820 00:37:03,251 --> 00:37:04,650 Now, they also believed that anyone 821 00:37:04,753 --> 00:37:07,521 who spiritually was weak would be susceptible 822 00:37:07,623 --> 00:37:08,455 to witchcraft. 823 00:37:09,725 --> 00:37:10,825 Now, you had said there were two things 824 00:37:10,927 --> 00:37:12,494 you were scared of -- what was the second thing? 825 00:37:12,562 --> 00:37:15,431 Okay, well, this is where it gets really unusual. 826 00:37:15,533 --> 00:37:18,634 So the second thing, the second monster that 827 00:37:18,736 --> 00:37:23,407 you guys are being affected by is something called a wendigo. 828 00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:28,213 What a wendigo is is a supernatural entity. 829 00:37:28,315 --> 00:37:31,818 Usually it's associated with native tribes in canada, 830 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,956 so I don't know how it got here, but it does have 831 00:37:36,058 --> 00:37:37,358 bad intentions, 832 00:37:37,460 --> 00:37:41,163 and unfortunately, its focus is the master bedroom, 833 00:37:41,231 --> 00:37:44,200 and it's female 834 00:37:44,302 --> 00:37:45,501 that it wants. 835 00:37:45,603 --> 00:37:48,972 What I felt it doing was right in their window 836 00:37:49,074 --> 00:37:53,845 and trying to pull you out, to remove you from the house. 837 00:37:53,947 --> 00:37:57,016 But I did have a sketch done of what I saw. 838 00:38:02,457 --> 00:38:03,523 That's just -- just great. 839 00:38:03,625 --> 00:38:04,892 [ sighs ] 840 00:38:08,464 --> 00:38:11,200 - what the **** is that? - Amy: Mm-hmm. 841 00:38:13,170 --> 00:38:14,370 Oh, my god. 842 00:38:16,541 --> 00:38:18,909 That's terrifying -- I mean, honestly, that scares 843 00:38:19,011 --> 00:38:20,911 the **** out of me to even be in my bedroom now. 844 00:38:21,013 --> 00:38:23,682 Now, you told me about tapping on the windows 845 00:38:23,784 --> 00:38:25,083 and thumping on the walls, right? 846 00:38:25,185 --> 00:38:27,687 - Yeah. - Back there in that room. 847 00:38:27,789 --> 00:38:32,893 I'll hear a lot of banging and a lot of, you know, noises. 848 00:38:32,995 --> 00:38:35,363 Would desiree feel anything if this thing's trying to... 849 00:38:35,465 --> 00:38:39,001 I mean, something's trying to get you out of bed. 850 00:38:41,272 --> 00:38:43,173 Woke up with scratches. 851 00:38:43,275 --> 00:38:45,408 That's desiree's arm right there. 852 00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:47,812 These you thought were burn marks, right? 853 00:38:47,914 --> 00:38:49,146 Desiree: Yeah. They blistered up. 854 00:38:49,249 --> 00:38:50,448 - Amy: Where was that? - Steve: It's on her foot. 855 00:38:50,550 --> 00:38:52,451 - Amy: On your foot? - Desiree: On my foot. 856 00:38:52,553 --> 00:38:54,953 This wendigo, if it got ahold of her, what could happen? 857 00:38:55,055 --> 00:38:58,191 Its intentions is to take you away, 858 00:38:58,293 --> 00:38:59,894 and then it would kill you and eat you. 859 00:39:02,064 --> 00:39:03,564 Over my **** dead body. 860 00:39:03,667 --> 00:39:05,767 Amy: This is not a good situation. 861 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,673 You guys got a lot of **** going on here. 862 00:39:10,775 --> 00:39:11,941 Yeah. 863 00:39:12,044 --> 00:39:14,645 It's so **** frustrating, because I can't fight any of it. 864 00:39:14,747 --> 00:39:17,048 It's just pissing me off even more, you know? 865 00:39:17,150 --> 00:39:19,617 I feel like I got hit with a mack truck. 866 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:20,753 Bring it on. 867 00:39:20,855 --> 00:39:22,655 I'm gonna given this **** a run for his money. 868 00:39:22,757 --> 00:39:25,158 [ sniffles ] 869 00:39:28,297 --> 00:39:29,964 [ ghostly whispers ] 870 00:39:34,805 --> 00:39:36,505 [ ghostly whispers ] 871 00:39:38,176 --> 00:39:39,142 steve: I knew things were bad, 872 00:39:39,244 --> 00:39:41,879 but after almost 10 years of working with amy, 873 00:39:41,981 --> 00:39:43,480 I can't remember many cases where there was 874 00:39:43,582 --> 00:39:46,484 so much bad stuff going on in one house. 875 00:39:46,586 --> 00:39:49,020 So now the big question is, what can you do about it? 876 00:39:49,122 --> 00:39:50,423 Can you stay here and fight it? 877 00:39:50,525 --> 00:39:52,825 Or do you have to pack up and get the hell out of here? 878 00:39:52,927 --> 00:39:54,494 For that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to amy. 879 00:39:59,102 --> 00:40:03,205 There are quite a few things that need to happen. 880 00:40:03,307 --> 00:40:06,408 A team of people that I work with are going to 881 00:40:06,511 --> 00:40:09,913 come here and remove the aspect of your grandmother 882 00:40:10,015 --> 00:40:11,115 that is here. 883 00:40:11,217 --> 00:40:14,719 So that depression that has, like, kind of rooted in you, 884 00:40:14,821 --> 00:40:16,321 you'll feel a bit better, 885 00:40:16,457 --> 00:40:20,393 but you're still gonna need to go outside to, like, 886 00:40:20,495 --> 00:40:23,096 a psychotherapist to really get that out of you. 887 00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:29,004 They will also, at that time, move on the wash man. 888 00:40:29,106 --> 00:40:31,640 Now to the monsters -- the team will create 889 00:40:31,743 --> 00:40:34,777 a barrier around your home to lock it down. 890 00:40:34,879 --> 00:40:38,415 It'll keep the skinwalker and the wendigo at bay. 891 00:40:38,517 --> 00:40:42,086 - Whatever keeps that jackass - yes. 892 00:40:42,188 --> 00:40:43,955 And all the other ones out -- - yes. 893 00:40:44,057 --> 00:40:46,692 - I don't care. - What about the **** in the closet? 894 00:40:46,794 --> 00:40:47,893 - Oh, the dead guys? - Yeah. 895 00:40:47,995 --> 00:40:50,864 Yeah, they're gonna have to be kept at bay, as well, 896 00:40:50,966 --> 00:40:54,935 because we don't want to basically conjure them. 897 00:40:55,038 --> 00:40:58,407 Uh, meaning pulling them here 898 00:40:58,509 --> 00:41:00,208 and moving them on. 899 00:41:00,310 --> 00:41:04,614 So we want to just keep them the **** out the house. 900 00:41:04,716 --> 00:41:07,651 Well, as bad as it sounded tonight, this is actually 901 00:41:07,753 --> 00:41:08,685 good news. 902 00:41:08,788 --> 00:41:09,821 You got to feel better now. 903 00:41:09,923 --> 00:41:11,723 - I do. - We wanted this to be 904 00:41:11,825 --> 00:41:14,427 our last move and our forever home. 905 00:41:14,529 --> 00:41:16,028 And you are gonna take amy's advice. 906 00:41:16,130 --> 00:41:17,630 - Yeah, definitely. - Oh, yes. 907 00:41:17,732 --> 00:41:20,700 - There's no doubt about it. - Starting tomorrow. 908 00:41:20,803 --> 00:41:22,403 - Good. - I feel relieved, 909 00:41:22,505 --> 00:41:24,539 because now I have a plan of attack that I can go get 910 00:41:24,641 --> 00:41:25,673 these bastards from. 911 00:41:27,144 --> 00:41:29,278 They're -- they're gonna be gone. 912 00:41:29,380 --> 00:41:32,882 Amy: Nick and desiree still have a long road ahead of them, 913 00:41:32,984 --> 00:41:35,986 but I'm confident, if they follow my advice, they'll be 914 00:41:36,089 --> 00:41:38,089 able to live in their house in peace. 915 00:41:42,663 --> 00:41:44,997 Hi, guys -- just wanted to give you guys an update. 916 00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:48,936 The activity is continuing, and we are waiting 917 00:41:49,038 --> 00:41:52,440 for amy's team to come do a second investigation 918 00:41:52,542 --> 00:41:54,242 like amy suggested. 919 00:41:54,344 --> 00:41:55,443 Until then... 920 00:41:55,546 --> 00:41:57,480 [ sighs ] 921 00:41:57,582 --> 00:41:59,548 we'll keep trucking. 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