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♪♪
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Amy:
I'm seeing this monster.
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Looks like a spider.
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Any thoughts on what the hell
that thing might have been?
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Evil --
it felt really evil.
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He actually reached out
and grabbed my arm.
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If something were to happen
to my daughter,
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I could not handle it.
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It's going to kill
my mother,
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My daughter,
my granddaughter.
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I don't know how anybody
can live in here.
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I'm hearing
the devil's triangle.
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My name is amy allan.
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I see dead people.
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I think he might've been
a stalker.
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I speak to dead people,
and they speak to me.
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He will kill you.
He has killed people.
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But there's only one way to know
if my findings are real...
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They're being possessed.
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...I rely on my partner.
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I'm steve dischiavi.
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I'm a retired new york city
homicide detective...
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How many people died here
over the years?
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...And I know every person,
every house, has secrets.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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But steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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...Until the very end.
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This sketch
is like a nightmare.
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When we uncover if it's safe
for you to stay...
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I never thought
the biggest problem was me.
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...Or time to get out.
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He could, more than likely,
kill you.
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So I'm up here
in wakefield, massachusetts.
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It's about 20 minutes
north of boston.
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I got a call from a young mom
named alyssa.
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Now, she moved her family
into a duplex
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To help take care of
her 86-year-old grandmother,
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But the activity
is so bad there,
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She doesn't think
anyone is safe.
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She's in a pretty tough bind
and desperate for us to help.
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Amy:
I don't like it here.
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I feel dying and death
over here,
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So I don't know if a living
person is currently dying here
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Or if somebody just died here.
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Maybe a female --
I'm thinking an older female.
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My guess is not good.
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Steve: So, alyssa,
when we spoke on the phone,
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It sounded like you were
at the end of your rope.
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The paranormal activity
here in the house
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Is just
out of control.
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I'm scared
for me and my family.
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I'm afraid
I'm going to die.
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How long
have you been here?
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It's my grandmother's house.
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I've lived here off and on,
though, my whole life,
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But I've been back here
permanently
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The last three years.
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I came back
to take care
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Of my grandmother
and my grandfather,
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But he passed away.
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How long ago?
A couple years.
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Do you think
whatever is in the house
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Might have had anything
at all to do with that?
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I do.
I definitely do.
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I know even before,
when he was getting sick,
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He seemed very depressed
and not present.
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All right.
So who all lives in the house?
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It is me,
my husband, cory;
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Our daughter, kenzie;
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And then my grandmother, rose,
lives on the other side.
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How old is kenzie?
3.
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Give me an idea of
what kind of experiences
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You guys
are having here.
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Things moving on their own,
hearing voices,
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Shadow people,
physical attacks,
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And my health
has been declining rapidly.
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What are
we talking about?
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I'll wake up
in the morning
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And feel like I ran a marathon
and hadn't slept a wink.
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I'm having heart issues.
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I've been on
a holter monitor,
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And it's been
just since I moved in here.
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I'm afraid that
I'm going to be here
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With my 3-year-old,
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And I'm going to
fall over dead.
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But you think that's being
caused by the paranormal?
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It has to be.
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I've had
so many tests done.
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They can't find
anything wrong.
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I got to ask you,
why don't you just leave?
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I can't leave
my grandmother here
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To deal with this alone,
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And I don't think
my grandmother will leave.
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I'm hoping we can
figure out what's here
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And make it go away.
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If something were to happen
to my daughter,
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I could not handle it.
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There's no way.
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Hopefully, it doesn't
come to that.
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I hope so.
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I'm seeing a path with a bunch
of dead people on it.
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If some of the random
dead people that are on there
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Choose to go off of the path
for a little while,
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Then it could affect the area.
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So I'm seeing this guy.
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He's a white male.
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I think that he was a farmer.
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He has no eyes, and he goes
inside from this path.
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He makes me feel nauseous,
very specific,
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Like I'm going to throw up.
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He's very clingy, very needy,
very physical.
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He's so physical, he actually
reached out and grabbed my arm.
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All right.
So what's going on down here?
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I've been physically attacked
down here.
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Okay.
Tell me what happened.
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I was doing laundry
and was pushed.
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It felt like strong,
like, maybe male hands
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Right into my back and pushed me
right into the dryer.
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Okay,
anything else?
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Yes, I've seen
a huge shadow figure
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That looks like
a spider,
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But it didn't
look right.
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It didn't look natural.
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It was otherworldly.
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Okay,
so where do you see it?
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All over the house,
and when I see it,
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It'll be
in different sizes sometimes.
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Sometimes, it's the size
of a large dog, like, huge.
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Either way,
it's a creepy thing to see.
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Absolutely.
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I'm not a fan
of spiders myself. Yeah.
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You see anything else strange
like that spider thing?
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Yes, a really abnormally tall
shadow figure.
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It looked human
in shape.
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I feel like
it's attached to me.
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What do you think
this thing wants?
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I think it wants
to suck the life out of me.
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That's what I think.
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♪♪
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Amy: This farmer guy
is very much present.
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He's attached himself
to a living person
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That he feels good about,
who he feels nurtured by,
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Likely a female,
like, a mother figure.
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I think she feels like
she's being watched.
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I think she feels like
something is on her.
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Feeling like being touched,
being held.
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Whoever this woman is
is experiencing pain a lot,
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Especially with the eyes,
probably headaches,
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Massive anxiety, fear.
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She may stay up
because of the anxiety,
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So that's what
he's putting onto this woman.
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All right.
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So I got to assume this is where
you and your fiancé sleep.
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Yes,
or where I try to sleep.
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What's going on?
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A lot of anxiety.
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My heart
will start racing.
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I get sweaty,
short of breath.
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My vision
goes really bright,
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And I feel like
I'm going to black out.
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I've never heard that vision
thing described to me before.
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Anything else?
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Sleep paralysis.
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I will wake up
from a sound sleep.
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I feel like the air is
being sucked out of my lungs.
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I can't breathe.
I can't move.
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Sleep paralysis
is an actual thing.
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Mm-hmm.
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So what makes you think
it's paranormal?
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I never had anything like that
happen to me
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Before coming here.
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This happens to me
sometimes every night
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Or several times
a week.
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All right.
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Anything else?
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I will feel like
I'm nauseous.
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I'm going to vomit.
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Okay.
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I get these pains.
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I call them
phantom pains.
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So where on your body
are you feeling these pains?
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I'll get a pain
in this leg.
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Okay.
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And it will travel,
and then it'll be in this leg,
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And then
it'll go up my arms.
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Sometimes,
it'll be in my head, as well,
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Like,
all over my body.
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Yeah.
Sometimes I think like,
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"what could I have
possibly done to deserve this?"
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Amy: The farmer guy likes
the person in this room.
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I think he's kind of in love
with this woman.
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I literally see him, like,
sleeping in the bed.
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There's been things
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That are not really appropriate
that he's done.
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I don't think she understands
that this is the one
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Who is giving her
all this physical pain.
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And what kind of effect would
that have on this living person?
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All I can gather is that
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It's causing them a lot of,
like, physical issues.
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I mean, it could
become something, you know,
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Far more detrimental,
you know, like terminal illness.
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This is bad.
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Steve: Your daughter
called us in
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Because whatever is here
could be deadly.
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I mean, do you agree
with that at all?
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Absolutely agree with that.
Okay.
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I firmly believe
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That this house
has breeded illness
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And actually killed
my father.
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Okay.
Now, she alluded to that.
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She feels that it's
going on again now with her,
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And she's worried
about your mom.
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I think the house is trying
to do something to her.
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Okay.
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Any experiences
that you can recall
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That you can
tell me about?
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I would hear voices
all the time.
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So in those voices
you're hearing,
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Could it have been
anybody in the house?
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Definitely not.
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They were voices
that did not sound like anybody.
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Okay,
and so anything else?
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I would hear all kinds of noises
and movement, like,
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Down happening
from the basement area.
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Could it have been
any kind of rodent in the walls
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Or anything like that?
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No,
and you'd stand
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At the top of the stairs
in the kitchen,
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And you're hearing this,
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And then finally,
you open the door,
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And you're like,
"stop."
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And it would just
get silent.
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Really?
Yeah.
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Interesting.
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Amy:
I'm seeing this monster.
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It's evil, looks like a spider,
very low to the ground.
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I'm seeing
it goes right up the wall
257
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And sinks flat into the wall.
258
00:11:15,242 --> 00:11:17,375
It likes to bother people.
259
00:11:17,377 --> 00:11:21,913
The living are hearing
this weird tapping,
260
00:11:21,915 --> 00:11:25,684
And the living have experienced
voice borrowing.
261
00:11:25,686 --> 00:11:29,054
So this thing,
this weird creature,
262
00:11:29,056 --> 00:11:31,589
Puts thoughts into the living.
263
00:11:31,591 --> 00:11:34,693
♪♪
264
00:11:34,695 --> 00:11:36,394
So, ann, are there
any other experiences
265
00:11:36,396 --> 00:11:37,696
You can tell me about?
266
00:11:37,698 --> 00:11:40,465
I was in bed,
and all of a sudden,
267
00:11:40,467 --> 00:11:42,434
There was
this black swirling mass
268
00:11:42,436 --> 00:11:44,636
That started
up around the ceiling.
269
00:11:44,638 --> 00:11:46,771
And it just got
bigger and bigger
270
00:11:46,773 --> 00:11:48,740
And darker and darker,
271
00:11:48,742 --> 00:11:53,144
And it just kind of started
coming down towards the bed.
272
00:11:53,146 --> 00:11:54,846
And it just
kind of went...
273
00:11:54,848 --> 00:11:56,815
Up like that and just
went back to the ceiling
274
00:11:56,817 --> 00:11:58,183
And just went away.
275
00:11:58,185 --> 00:12:00,018
There was no smoke or
any kind of fire in the house,
276
00:12:00,020 --> 00:12:01,820
Nothing like that?
Absolutely not.
277
00:12:01,822 --> 00:12:03,655
Any thoughts on what
the hell that weird thing might have been?
278
00:12:03,657 --> 00:12:06,958
Evil --
it felt really evil.
279
00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,160
You seem to have
a lot at stake here.
280
00:12:09,162 --> 00:12:10,662
I mean,
you got your mom,
281
00:12:10,664 --> 00:12:12,030
Your daughter,
your granddaughter.
282
00:12:12,032 --> 00:12:12,997
Mm-hmm.
283
00:12:12,999 --> 00:12:14,966
So what do you
want them to do?
284
00:12:14,968 --> 00:12:17,302
Personally, I think
they should just get out.
285
00:12:17,304 --> 00:12:19,471
My mother
needs to realize
286
00:12:19,473 --> 00:12:21,306
She needs
to get out of here, too.
287
00:12:21,308 --> 00:12:23,174
I almost feel like
288
00:12:23,176 --> 00:12:27,212
The house has somehow
got control of her.
289
00:12:27,214 --> 00:12:33,184
♪♪
290
00:12:33,186 --> 00:12:37,355
Amy: The spider creature
likes it down here.
291
00:12:37,357 --> 00:12:39,691
So this creature thing,
292
00:12:39,693 --> 00:12:44,329
Which I totally thought
was not human -- it is.
293
00:12:44,331 --> 00:12:46,598
It's this old man.
294
00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,935
Okay, so this old man
has now been transformed into,
295
00:12:50,937 --> 00:12:52,904
Like, an animal thing?
296
00:12:52,906 --> 00:12:55,440
♪♪
297
00:12:55,442 --> 00:12:57,375
Matt:
Can you describe it?
298
00:12:57,377 --> 00:13:00,912
Just imagine pipe cleaners
bent into the shape of an "m"
299
00:13:00,914 --> 00:13:05,350
With little, like, feet,
and its head is black.
300
00:13:05,352 --> 00:13:09,020
It almost looks like an orb
and kind of shiny,
301
00:13:09,022 --> 00:13:10,855
And it's kind of floating.
302
00:13:10,857 --> 00:13:13,291
♪♪
303
00:13:13,293 --> 00:13:17,195
He goes after people
because he's a bully.
304
00:13:17,197 --> 00:13:19,531
♪♪
305
00:13:19,533 --> 00:13:22,700
He's, like, kind of
making me nauseous.
306
00:13:22,702 --> 00:13:25,637
I think the living might become
extremely drained from this.
307
00:13:25,639 --> 00:13:28,506
Well, he says,
"I want you out of my house."
308
00:13:28,508 --> 00:13:31,009
I think he's dangerous.
309
00:13:31,011 --> 00:13:37,849
♪♪
310
00:13:37,851 --> 00:13:41,119
So, rose, I was talking to
alyssa and your daughter.
311
00:13:41,121 --> 00:13:42,320
Mm-hmm.
312
00:13:42,322 --> 00:13:44,556
And they both think
it's not safe here
313
00:13:44,558 --> 00:13:45,957
Because of what's
going on with the --
314
00:13:45,959 --> 00:13:47,992
Right, right.
How do you feel about it?
315
00:13:47,994 --> 00:13:51,462
When my husband was alive,
things would happen for us,
316
00:13:51,464 --> 00:13:53,798
But we never
worried about them.
317
00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,633
We never got frightened.
318
00:13:55,635 --> 00:13:58,570
We just accepted them and never
thought anything was wrong.
319
00:13:58,572 --> 00:13:59,938
But you've
experienced it yourself?
320
00:13:59,940 --> 00:14:03,107
Oh, yeah, yeah,
I've experienced things myself.
321
00:14:03,109 --> 00:14:04,609
Okay,
so give me an example.
322
00:14:04,611 --> 00:14:07,512
Sitting in my living room
looking towards the stairway,
323
00:14:07,514 --> 00:14:09,147
A shadow appeared there.
324
00:14:09,149 --> 00:14:11,249
Did this shadow
look like somebody, or --
325
00:14:11,251 --> 00:14:13,184
Just a big, big blob.
326
00:14:13,186 --> 00:14:16,754
It stayed for a matter
of seconds and then moved.
327
00:14:16,756 --> 00:14:17,755
Anything else?
328
00:14:17,757 --> 00:14:19,224
We lost two daughters.
329
00:14:19,226 --> 00:14:20,525
I'm sorry
to hear that.
330
00:14:20,527 --> 00:14:23,361
We lost one in 2003
with cancer,
331
00:14:23,363 --> 00:14:26,030
And we lost another one,
2013,
332
00:14:26,032 --> 00:14:27,866
With multiple sclerosis.
333
00:14:27,868 --> 00:14:29,300
So we were in bed,
334
00:14:29,302 --> 00:14:31,836
And I woke up around
2:00 in the morning.
335
00:14:31,838 --> 00:14:33,004
I had one picture.
336
00:14:33,006 --> 00:14:36,007
It's a big, large picture
of my two girls
337
00:14:36,009 --> 00:14:37,675
When they were
little together.
338
00:14:37,677 --> 00:14:38,910
Okay.
339
00:14:38,912 --> 00:14:42,013
Beside this picture,
two flashes of light came in.
340
00:14:42,015 --> 00:14:44,115
So you think those flashes
of light were your daughters?
341
00:14:44,117 --> 00:14:45,483
Yes.
Wow.
342
00:14:45,485 --> 00:14:48,486
I had a hard time with it
because it frightened me.
343
00:14:48,488 --> 00:14:50,922
Okay, so if amy finds
something here is dangerous,
344
00:14:50,924 --> 00:14:52,123
Would you consider moving?
345
00:14:52,125 --> 00:14:53,892
My whole life
is this house.
346
00:14:53,894 --> 00:14:55,126
Even if I'm wrong,
347
00:14:55,128 --> 00:14:58,596
And something could be
really right that could hurt me,
348
00:14:58,598 --> 00:14:59,697
I can't leave.
349
00:14:59,699 --> 00:15:01,466
Not even
for your granddaughter?
350
00:15:01,468 --> 00:15:03,001
I mean, she doesn't
feel safe here
351
00:15:03,003 --> 00:15:04,535
But doesn't want
to leave you behind.
352
00:15:04,537 --> 00:15:07,605
I'm here 37 years,
and I can't leave behind
353
00:15:07,607 --> 00:15:10,842
Everything that was
my husband's, either,
354
00:15:10,844 --> 00:15:12,176
That we had together.
355
00:15:12,178 --> 00:15:14,178
I can't
leave that behind.
356
00:15:14,180 --> 00:15:17,382
♪♪
357
00:15:17,384 --> 00:15:19,350
Amy:
There's, like, death here.
358
00:15:19,352 --> 00:15:21,019
It's just kind of everywhere.
359
00:15:21,021 --> 00:15:24,956
Getting really bad
lower-abdominal pains
360
00:15:24,958 --> 00:15:27,859
All the way
through my back, my hips.
361
00:15:27,861 --> 00:15:31,963
It feels like I'm being
either hit or punched.
362
00:15:31,965 --> 00:15:34,899
I don't understand
what's happening.
363
00:15:34,901 --> 00:15:37,135
♪♪
364
00:15:37,137 --> 00:15:40,104
Nobody can feel
physically okay in here.
365
00:15:40,106 --> 00:15:41,706
It's impossible.
366
00:15:41,708 --> 00:15:46,744
I would think that the living
are feeling constant nausea,
367
00:15:46,746 --> 00:15:48,746
Constantly drained.
368
00:15:48,748 --> 00:15:52,784
I don't know how
anybody can live in here.
369
00:15:52,786 --> 00:15:57,155
Death is here so much
that there's actually, like,
370
00:15:57,157 --> 00:15:58,957
A little gateway.
371
00:15:58,959 --> 00:16:00,391
So what is this thing?
372
00:16:00,393 --> 00:16:02,193
So you know how people talk
about, like, the white light?
373
00:16:02,195 --> 00:16:03,561
That's this.
Okay.
374
00:16:03,563 --> 00:16:05,363
And it came because
375
00:16:05,365 --> 00:16:09,367
Death constantly was visiting
this area.
376
00:16:09,369 --> 00:16:11,602
♪♪
377
00:16:11,604 --> 00:16:13,771
Not good for the living,
for sure.
378
00:16:13,773 --> 00:16:19,744
Living people would feel vertigo
and nausea and things like that.
379
00:16:19,746 --> 00:16:21,679
Like, I'm so drained right now.
380
00:16:21,681 --> 00:16:23,948
I, like, can barely move.
381
00:16:23,950 --> 00:16:30,488
♪♪
382
00:16:32,225 --> 00:16:38,529
♪♪
383
00:16:38,531 --> 00:16:40,732
Before I got to town,
I asked a local historian
384
00:16:40,734 --> 00:16:42,467
To look into
alyssa's property for me.
385
00:16:42,469 --> 00:16:45,536
Now, she says that as soon
as the original owners
386
00:16:45,538 --> 00:16:46,904
Set foot on the land,
387
00:16:46,906 --> 00:16:49,340
Family members
started dropping dead,
388
00:16:49,342 --> 00:16:53,044
And their terrible luck lasted
the entire time they were there.
389
00:16:53,046 --> 00:16:58,383
♪♪
390
00:16:58,385 --> 00:16:59,851
So on the phone,
you mentioned
391
00:16:59,853 --> 00:17:02,553
That the original owners
of my client's property
392
00:17:02,555 --> 00:17:04,288
Suffered from
a lot of death.
393
00:17:04,290 --> 00:17:05,456
Yeah.
394
00:17:05,458 --> 00:17:07,959
Before we even get to that,
who were they,
395
00:17:07,961 --> 00:17:09,761
And when did they
get to the property?
396
00:17:09,763 --> 00:17:11,796
Well, see,
it was david wiley
397
00:17:11,798 --> 00:17:14,265
Who moved to the property
in 1820,
398
00:17:14,267 --> 00:17:16,768
And then he brought
his bride, sally.
399
00:17:16,770 --> 00:17:19,270
All right, so, nancy,
he gets there in 1820.
400
00:17:19,272 --> 00:17:20,471
How old is he
at this time?
401
00:17:20,473 --> 00:17:21,672
He's 21 years old.
402
00:17:21,674 --> 00:17:22,874
Okay,
so he's a young man.
403
00:17:22,876 --> 00:17:24,409
Yeah.
What does he do for a living?
404
00:17:24,411 --> 00:17:27,879
He was mainly a farmer,
and sally, of course,
405
00:17:27,881 --> 00:17:30,281
Was helping him
on the farm,
406
00:17:30,283 --> 00:17:33,384
Keeping the house
and taking care of the children.
407
00:17:33,386 --> 00:17:34,886
There were eight children.
408
00:17:34,888 --> 00:17:37,522
Okay, so, nancy, let's get to
the death and the suffering.
409
00:17:37,524 --> 00:17:38,723
What happened?
410
00:17:38,725 --> 00:17:42,860
In 1824, they lost
their infant son, william.
411
00:17:42,862 --> 00:17:45,563
Okay.
And then in 1825,
412
00:17:45,565 --> 00:17:49,233
They narrowly avoided
being killed in a house fire.
413
00:17:49,235 --> 00:17:52,470
It took down the house
and most of their property.
414
00:17:52,472 --> 00:17:54,539
All right.
So the house is destroyed.
415
00:17:54,541 --> 00:17:56,641
Did they ever rebuild?
Did they stay on the property?
416
00:17:56,643 --> 00:17:58,543
They definitely stayed
on the property,
417
00:17:58,545 --> 00:18:00,211
And they did
rebuild the house.
418
00:18:00,213 --> 00:18:01,446
Okay.
419
00:18:01,448 --> 00:18:03,948
But the misfortunes
didn't stop there.
420
00:18:03,950 --> 00:18:06,784
In fact, in 1839,
421
00:18:06,786 --> 00:18:09,921
Their 9-year-old daughter
died.
422
00:18:09,923 --> 00:18:11,823
She had contracted
scarlet fever.
423
00:18:11,825 --> 00:18:12,957
Oh.
424
00:18:12,959 --> 00:18:16,594
And then, a real catastrophe
for the family,
425
00:18:16,596 --> 00:18:19,997
Just a few years later,
david died.
426
00:18:19,999 --> 00:18:21,933
He was 43 years old.
427
00:18:21,935 --> 00:18:25,002
He had
contracted consumption,
428
00:18:25,004 --> 00:18:27,505
But trouble wasn't
done with them yet.
429
00:18:27,507 --> 00:18:28,506
Okay.
430
00:18:28,508 --> 00:18:30,508
Just a few years later,
431
00:18:30,510 --> 00:18:35,046
Their 7-year-old daughter
contracted consumption, too.
432
00:18:35,048 --> 00:18:36,180
Oh.
433
00:18:36,182 --> 00:18:41,586
And she died,
and here's her death record.
434
00:18:41,588 --> 00:18:43,855
And then a few months
after that,
435
00:18:43,857 --> 00:18:48,192
David's father, eli,
also died also of consumption,
436
00:18:48,194 --> 00:18:50,895
And the next one
was in 1853.
437
00:18:50,897 --> 00:18:55,366
Little james emerson wiley died,
2 years old.
438
00:18:55,368 --> 00:18:57,502
He was her grandson.
Okay.
439
00:18:57,504 --> 00:18:59,403
And then in 1867,
440
00:18:59,405 --> 00:19:02,907
The daughter-in-law died
at age 44.
441
00:19:02,909 --> 00:19:04,942
This family couldn't
catch a break.
442
00:19:04,944 --> 00:19:06,244
What happens to sally?
443
00:19:06,246 --> 00:19:11,983
In 1874, she would die
of a heart condition.
444
00:19:11,985 --> 00:19:14,418
Okay, so if I got this right,
nancy,
445
00:19:14,420 --> 00:19:16,787
Sally suffered
for 47 years
446
00:19:16,789 --> 00:19:19,023
Of seven family members
dying...
447
00:19:19,025 --> 00:19:20,191
Absolutely.
448
00:19:20,193 --> 00:19:21,592
...And her house
burning down to the ground
449
00:19:21,594 --> 00:19:23,194
And having to rebuild.
Right.
450
00:19:23,196 --> 00:19:24,328
So when you said
they suffered
451
00:19:24,330 --> 00:19:25,796
When they got
to my client's property,
452
00:19:25,798 --> 00:19:27,265
That's basically
an understatement.
453
00:19:27,267 --> 00:19:28,933
Yeah.
454
00:19:28,935 --> 00:19:30,902
♪♪
455
00:19:30,904 --> 00:19:34,005
Amy: I'm seeing
that farmer guy again.
456
00:19:34,007 --> 00:19:37,375
He's got curly, dark-brown hair.
457
00:19:37,377 --> 00:19:41,012
He's wearing
an old-fashioned hat.
458
00:19:41,014 --> 00:19:44,115
I put him at
20 to 30 years of age.
459
00:19:44,117 --> 00:19:45,983
Any idea when this was?
460
00:19:45,985 --> 00:19:49,887
Between 1830 and 1860.
461
00:19:49,889 --> 00:19:51,255
[ groans ]
462
00:19:51,257 --> 00:19:53,057
He was married.
463
00:19:53,059 --> 00:19:55,526
There's a strong attachment
to the land.
464
00:19:55,528 --> 00:19:58,963
♪♪
465
00:19:58,965 --> 00:20:01,799
There was a cemetery
that was shown.
466
00:20:01,801 --> 00:20:03,167
There's seven graves.
467
00:20:03,169 --> 00:20:05,970
One in particular
is a dead baby,
468
00:20:05,972 --> 00:20:07,471
And then I see this woman.
469
00:20:07,473 --> 00:20:08,773
Just her hands come out,
470
00:20:08,775 --> 00:20:11,576
And she's gathering
these baby bones together.
471
00:20:11,578 --> 00:20:14,111
And she turns to me,
and she has no face.
472
00:20:14,113 --> 00:20:15,746
It's all bloody and gore,
473
00:20:15,748 --> 00:20:19,550
And then the last thing
was fire, big fire.
474
00:20:19,552 --> 00:20:22,019
♪♪
475
00:20:22,021 --> 00:20:25,223
Steve: So far, I've got a family
living in fear on a property
476
00:20:25,225 --> 00:20:28,426
Where one of the original owners
lost seven family members
477
00:20:28,428 --> 00:20:31,562
And their home to a fire,
478
00:20:31,564 --> 00:20:34,065
But I want to see
if there's anything else.
479
00:20:34,067 --> 00:20:35,733
As I was searching
through old records,
480
00:20:35,735 --> 00:20:40,204
I find a brutal homicide
that took place in 1900.
481
00:20:40,206 --> 00:20:42,039
Turns out
the victim was murdered
482
00:20:42,041 --> 00:20:44,442
Very close to alyssa's house.
483
00:20:44,444 --> 00:20:46,911
So I asked a local journalist
484
00:20:46,913 --> 00:20:48,546
To look into this homicide
for me,
485
00:20:48,548 --> 00:20:50,381
And she says
the victim was a guy
486
00:20:50,383 --> 00:20:53,317
Who waited his whole life
for his inheritance
487
00:20:53,319 --> 00:20:55,119
Only to get murdered
in cold blood
488
00:20:55,121 --> 00:20:57,054
Before he could collect it.
489
00:20:57,056 --> 00:21:04,128
♪♪
490
00:21:04,130 --> 00:21:06,964
Well, emily, thanks for
helping me out with this case.
491
00:21:06,966 --> 00:21:09,033
So this murder that happened
near my client's property,
492
00:21:09,035 --> 00:21:10,468
What do we know
about the victim?
493
00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:13,938
The victim was a man
named john w. Crowell.
494
00:21:13,940 --> 00:21:14,972
Okay.
495
00:21:14,974 --> 00:21:16,907
There's a picture
of him,
496
00:21:16,909 --> 00:21:19,944
And he was
a coffee and tea salesman.
497
00:21:19,946 --> 00:21:22,313
He was 66 years old
when he died.
498
00:21:22,315 --> 00:21:24,915
All right.
Now, you mentioned on the phone,
499
00:21:24,917 --> 00:21:27,018
This guy had some money
and stuff.
500
00:21:27,020 --> 00:21:28,386
What's he doing
selling coffee beans?
501
00:21:28,388 --> 00:21:31,722
He thought he was
part of the crowell family
502
00:21:31,724 --> 00:21:32,890
Over in England,
503
00:21:32,892 --> 00:21:35,192
And he thought
he was the rightful heir
504
00:21:35,194 --> 00:21:37,795
To part of
a $30 million fortune.
505
00:21:37,797 --> 00:21:39,830
John crowell wasn't quiet
about it, either.
506
00:21:39,832 --> 00:21:42,366
You know, he would tell
his customers along his routes,
507
00:21:42,368 --> 00:21:44,969
You know, that he'd be getting
this money soon, and...
508
00:21:44,971 --> 00:21:46,871
So now, when we spoke,
you said he got killed
509
00:21:46,873 --> 00:21:49,173
Before he was able
to inherit this money.
510
00:21:49,175 --> 00:21:52,143
Yeah, he never saw
a penny of any inheritance
511
00:21:52,145 --> 00:21:53,177
Of any type.
512
00:21:53,179 --> 00:21:57,381
What happened was
on December 3, 1900,
513
00:21:57,383 --> 00:21:58,983
He went out
to the barn,
514
00:21:58,985 --> 00:22:00,584
And while
he was out there,
515
00:22:00,586 --> 00:22:03,154
His wife, in the house,
heard gunshots ring out.
516
00:22:03,156 --> 00:22:04,855
She immediately rushes out.
517
00:22:04,857 --> 00:22:07,491
As she's rushing out,
she can hear john yelling,
518
00:22:07,493 --> 00:22:09,627
"mother, mother, mother."
519
00:22:09,629 --> 00:22:11,462
He says
a few more things.
520
00:22:11,464 --> 00:22:12,963
He says,
"the guy is gone.
521
00:22:12,965 --> 00:22:15,733
The guy is gone.
They got my pocketbook."
522
00:22:15,735 --> 00:22:17,335
She runs
into the barn,
523
00:22:17,337 --> 00:22:19,603
And she finds john
lying there
524
00:22:19,605 --> 00:22:21,672
On the straw
on the floor of the barn.
525
00:22:21,674 --> 00:22:23,708
Okay.
He'd been shot twice.
526
00:22:23,710 --> 00:22:25,109
Do we know where?
527
00:22:25,111 --> 00:22:27,545
The stomach
and the chest.
528
00:22:27,547 --> 00:22:30,281
We have
a death record here.
529
00:22:30,283 --> 00:22:32,016
Okay.
530
00:22:32,018 --> 00:22:34,051
Pistol shot wound,
hemorrhage.
531
00:22:34,053 --> 00:22:35,586
All right.
So he bled out.
532
00:22:35,588 --> 00:22:37,054
Okay,
so now he's dead.
533
00:22:37,056 --> 00:22:38,422
Was anybody charged
or arrested?
534
00:22:38,424 --> 00:22:39,757
No.
535
00:22:39,759 --> 00:22:41,225
So it's still
an open homicide?
536
00:22:41,227 --> 00:22:42,827
It is to this day.
537
00:22:42,829 --> 00:22:44,562
So this guy is dead.
What about this inheritance?
538
00:22:44,564 --> 00:22:45,663
Did the family
get any of it?
539
00:22:45,665 --> 00:22:47,565
No, they never saw
a penny of it.
540
00:22:47,567 --> 00:22:49,834
It's really questionable
if it even existed.
541
00:22:49,836 --> 00:22:51,569
So this poor slob
might have got killed
542
00:22:51,571 --> 00:22:53,971
Bragging about a fortune
he was never going to get?
543
00:22:53,973 --> 00:22:55,873
Yeah.
What a shame.
544
00:22:55,875 --> 00:22:58,409
♪♪
545
00:22:58,411 --> 00:23:02,446
Amy: That old man who looks like
a spider is down here.
546
00:23:02,448 --> 00:23:04,749
Matt: Do you get anything
on him in life?
547
00:23:04,751 --> 00:23:07,218
He came from, like,
extreme wealth
548
00:23:07,220 --> 00:23:10,821
And a line going back
probably to England?
549
00:23:10,823 --> 00:23:14,558
Sense of entitlement,
like the world owed him.
550
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:19,630
He's saying that basically,
he stole and robbed people.
551
00:23:19,632 --> 00:23:22,066
He was a very not a good person.
552
00:23:22,068 --> 00:23:25,069
He just wanted money, money,
money, money and power.
553
00:23:25,071 --> 00:23:28,372
He was very, very attached
to his mother.
554
00:23:28,374 --> 00:23:30,541
He wants to see his mother.
555
00:23:30,543 --> 00:23:32,810
I think he was murdered outside.
556
00:23:32,812 --> 00:23:42,219
♪♪
557
00:23:42,221 --> 00:23:44,388
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558
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559
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563
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564
00:24:03,009 --> 00:24:06,510
So wakefield is practically
next door to the city of salem,
565
00:24:06,512 --> 00:24:08,913
And you know what that means --
witch trials.
566
00:24:08,915 --> 00:24:10,281
I'm headed over
to meet an author
567
00:24:10,283 --> 00:24:11,515
Who's written a lot about them.
568
00:24:11,517 --> 00:24:13,851
She says some of
those witch hunts took place
569
00:24:13,853 --> 00:24:15,453
Right in
my client's neighborhood,
570
00:24:15,455 --> 00:24:18,022
And one of the victims
was captured right down the road
571
00:24:18,024 --> 00:24:19,423
From alyssa's house.
572
00:24:19,425 --> 00:24:26,063
♪♪
573
00:24:26,065 --> 00:24:28,032
Steve: So I know a little bit
about the witch trials,
574
00:24:28,034 --> 00:24:30,201
But can you give me
a little bit of a crash course
575
00:24:30,203 --> 00:24:31,569
And tell me
what the hell happened?
576
00:24:31,571 --> 00:24:33,337
By the end
of the 1600s,
577
00:24:33,339 --> 00:24:35,506
At a time
when people generally thought
578
00:24:35,508 --> 00:24:38,342
That evil magic
was a real possibility,
579
00:24:38,344 --> 00:24:41,145
Sometimes, if there was
an unexpected death,
580
00:24:41,147 --> 00:24:43,380
It would be assumed
that maybe magic
581
00:24:43,382 --> 00:24:44,815
Had something to do
with it.
582
00:24:44,817 --> 00:24:47,151
So basically,
this hysteria has to do with
583
00:24:47,153 --> 00:24:48,919
People having things go bad
for them...
584
00:24:48,921 --> 00:24:50,221
Mm-hmm.
585
00:24:50,223 --> 00:24:52,223
...And then blaming it
on the witches. Yes.
586
00:24:52,225 --> 00:24:54,124
How many people
were actually accused of it?
587
00:24:54,126 --> 00:24:55,693
There were
just under 200
588
00:24:55,695 --> 00:24:58,062
Who were suspected
during that time.
589
00:24:58,064 --> 00:24:59,363
I know when we spoke
on the phone,
590
00:24:59,365 --> 00:25:01,499
A lot of this witch madness
made its way
591
00:25:01,501 --> 00:25:02,700
Toward my client's
neighborhood.
592
00:25:02,702 --> 00:25:04,034
What can you tell me
about that?
593
00:25:04,036 --> 00:25:07,371
Of the approximately 200
who were suspected in that year,
594
00:25:07,373 --> 00:25:08,572
Six of them lived
595
00:25:08,574 --> 00:25:11,308
About a mile
from your client's property.
596
00:25:11,310 --> 00:25:12,877
Okay,
so why'd they get accused?
597
00:25:12,879 --> 00:25:15,713
There were four girls
in the salem village area
598
00:25:15,715 --> 00:25:17,214
Who had been acting oddly.
599
00:25:17,216 --> 00:25:19,216
They complained
of aches and pains,
600
00:25:19,218 --> 00:25:21,819
Which escalated
even to convulsions.
601
00:25:21,821 --> 00:25:23,153
The doctors
were called in.
602
00:25:23,155 --> 00:25:24,688
They couldn't figure out
what was wrong,
603
00:25:24,690 --> 00:25:25,890
And finally,
one of them,
604
00:25:25,892 --> 00:25:27,958
Using the medical knowledge
of the time,
605
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,994
Thought that
if it's nothing obvious,
606
00:25:29,996 --> 00:25:32,530
Then maybe
it was witchcraft.
607
00:25:32,532 --> 00:25:34,365
So do we know
who these women were?
608
00:25:34,367 --> 00:25:37,034
The first one was a widow,
lydia dusten,
609
00:25:37,036 --> 00:25:40,170
Who was arrested
on April 30th of 1692.
610
00:25:40,172 --> 00:25:41,906
That's a copy
of the arrest warrant,
611
00:25:41,908 --> 00:25:43,841
And two
of her daughters,
612
00:25:43,843 --> 00:25:46,677
A granddaughter,
and two friends and neighbors
613
00:25:46,679 --> 00:25:49,947
Are also accused
and arrested eventually.
614
00:25:49,949 --> 00:25:51,148
Six of the women
615
00:25:51,150 --> 00:25:52,850
That lived near my client's
property were arrested.
616
00:25:52,852 --> 00:25:54,251
They're in jail.
What happens?
617
00:25:54,253 --> 00:25:56,520
There wasn't a way to prove
anybody was a witch,
618
00:25:56,522 --> 00:25:58,389
Which, of course,
they weren't to begin with.
619
00:25:58,391 --> 00:25:59,456
Okay.
620
00:25:59,458 --> 00:26:00,691
So they were free to go
621
00:26:00,693 --> 00:26:02,893
Once they paid their
room-and-board bills at jail.
622
00:26:02,895 --> 00:26:04,862
Unfortunately,
lydia died
623
00:26:04,864 --> 00:26:07,731
Before her family
could get the money together.
624
00:26:07,733 --> 00:26:08,999
She winds up
dying in prison.
625
00:26:09,001 --> 00:26:11,168
Yes.
626
00:26:11,170 --> 00:26:13,137
That is a sad story.
627
00:26:13,139 --> 00:26:15,172
Yep.
628
00:26:15,174 --> 00:26:17,341
♪♪
629
00:26:17,343 --> 00:26:20,511
Amy:
I don't like this.
630
00:26:20,513 --> 00:26:24,481
There's just death and dying.
631
00:26:24,483 --> 00:26:26,283
It's a [bleep] nightmare.
632
00:26:26,285 --> 00:26:30,287
♪♪
633
00:26:30,289 --> 00:26:32,856
It's draining, and it's adding
634
00:26:32,858 --> 00:26:38,095
To the whole heaviness
of this location.
635
00:26:38,097 --> 00:26:41,332
And I'm just seeing, like,
bodies going out.
636
00:26:41,334 --> 00:26:43,834
I see bodies going out,
at least two bodies
637
00:26:43,836 --> 00:26:46,270
Going out the door in body bags.
638
00:26:46,272 --> 00:26:48,505
♪♪
639
00:26:48,507 --> 00:26:50,908
[ sighs ] this is awful.
640
00:26:50,910 --> 00:26:59,516
♪♪
641
00:26:59,518 --> 00:27:02,186
I saw several disturbing things
on my walk,
642
00:27:02,188 --> 00:27:04,288
But the spider creature
tormenting the living
643
00:27:04,290 --> 00:27:06,423
Has me the most concerned.
644
00:27:06,425 --> 00:27:08,692
♪♪
645
00:27:08,694 --> 00:27:10,361
This thing,
he has an orb.
646
00:27:10,363 --> 00:27:13,864
♪♪
647
00:27:13,866 --> 00:27:17,968
The actual orb itself
was clear.
648
00:27:17,970 --> 00:27:21,472
Then in the center was, like,
this dark, black thing.
649
00:27:21,474 --> 00:27:23,641
♪♪
650
00:27:23,643 --> 00:27:25,342
I do like this scale better,
though.
651
00:27:25,344 --> 00:27:27,177
Okay.
652
00:27:27,179 --> 00:27:33,851
♪♪
653
00:27:33,853 --> 00:27:36,720
Amy,
is this what you saw?
654
00:27:36,722 --> 00:27:39,056
Yes,
that's what I saw.
655
00:27:39,058 --> 00:27:43,827
♪♪
656
00:27:45,564 --> 00:27:55,539
♪♪
657
00:27:55,541 --> 00:27:58,876
♪♪
658
00:27:58,878 --> 00:28:02,046
Steve: Now that amy and I have
completed our investigations,
659
00:28:02,048 --> 00:28:04,415
We're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
660
00:28:04,417 --> 00:28:07,584
And our clients
for the first time.
661
00:28:07,586 --> 00:28:10,587
So, amy, we've got three
generations across from us.
662
00:28:10,589 --> 00:28:11,789
This is rose.
663
00:28:11,791 --> 00:28:13,791
She owns the house.
664
00:28:13,793 --> 00:28:15,926
That's her daughter ann,
665
00:28:15,928 --> 00:28:18,462
And this is her granddaughter
alyssa.
666
00:28:18,464 --> 00:28:20,998
Alyssa moved in here
with her family three years ago
667
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,466
To take care of rose.
668
00:28:22,468 --> 00:28:25,936
This is her family here.
669
00:28:25,938 --> 00:28:27,805
But ever since she did do that,
670
00:28:27,807 --> 00:28:30,607
Activity has been violent
and dangerous.
671
00:28:30,609 --> 00:28:32,609
Now, alyssa is in
a serious bind.
672
00:28:32,611 --> 00:28:35,145
If she stays,
her daughter is in danger.
673
00:28:35,147 --> 00:28:38,615
If she goes, she's abandoning
her grandmother.
674
00:28:38,617 --> 00:28:41,285
When amy is ready,
she'll describe her walk for us.
675
00:28:41,287 --> 00:28:44,822
♪♪
676
00:28:44,824 --> 00:28:47,725
Amy: In the backyard,
I encountered a male
677
00:28:47,727 --> 00:28:50,227
Between 20 and 30 years of age.
678
00:28:50,229 --> 00:28:55,799
He has a direct connection
to the land.
679
00:28:55,801 --> 00:28:59,703
He had on the old-style
kind of farmers hats,
680
00:28:59,705 --> 00:29:03,340
And I thought he was
maybe alive around 1830s.
681
00:29:03,342 --> 00:29:09,446
I also saw a cemetery
that I felt was here,
682
00:29:09,448 --> 00:29:11,315
And there were seven graves.
683
00:29:11,317 --> 00:29:16,520
There's only one person
from that particular cemetery
684
00:29:16,522 --> 00:29:19,356
Who isn't at rest,
and it's a female.
685
00:29:19,358 --> 00:29:22,159
I believe her name may have
started with an "s,"
686
00:29:22,161 --> 00:29:24,528
But I'm not sure.
687
00:29:24,530 --> 00:29:27,331
So a few things amy said
made me think
688
00:29:27,333 --> 00:29:29,133
Of the original owners
of the property.
689
00:29:29,135 --> 00:29:31,001
His name
was david wiley,
690
00:29:31,003 --> 00:29:33,437
And he bought this land
with his wife, sally...
691
00:29:33,439 --> 00:29:34,505
Ah.
692
00:29:34,507 --> 00:29:35,906
...In 1820.
693
00:29:35,908 --> 00:29:38,008
Now, he was 21 years old
at the time.
694
00:29:38,010 --> 00:29:40,010
Like a lot of people
in the area, he was a farmer.
695
00:29:40,012 --> 00:29:42,112
His wife
was a homemaker.
696
00:29:42,114 --> 00:29:43,881
Now, you mentioned
seven graves.
697
00:29:43,883 --> 00:29:44,915
Correct.
698
00:29:44,917 --> 00:29:48,452
Between 1824 and 1867,
699
00:29:48,454 --> 00:29:50,420
The wileys lost
seven family members
700
00:29:50,422 --> 00:29:53,290
On the property,
including david.
701
00:29:53,292 --> 00:29:54,725
Oh.
702
00:29:54,727 --> 00:29:59,096
I figured out that he actually
has attached himself
703
00:29:59,098 --> 00:30:03,600
To a female here...
704
00:30:03,602 --> 00:30:06,937
And it's whoever
lives upstairs
705
00:30:06,939 --> 00:30:10,607
In the room
with the painted furniture.
706
00:30:10,609 --> 00:30:11,775
That's alyssa's room.
707
00:30:11,777 --> 00:30:13,977
Oh.
708
00:30:13,979 --> 00:30:15,779
You might get
physically touched.
709
00:30:15,781 --> 00:30:17,381
I did see him,
like,
710
00:30:17,383 --> 00:30:22,119
Getting in bed with you
and maybe being...
711
00:30:22,121 --> 00:30:24,321
I think he's, like,
in love with you a little bit.
712
00:30:24,323 --> 00:30:26,456
[ gasps ]
oh, dear lord.
713
00:30:26,458 --> 00:30:30,627
I have felt several times
that my fiancé
714
00:30:30,629 --> 00:30:32,296
Will have already
been in bed with me.
715
00:30:32,298 --> 00:30:35,666
He's asleep,
and it's clear as day,
716
00:30:35,668 --> 00:30:40,070
Like a real person
sits right down on the bed.
717
00:30:40,072 --> 00:30:42,372
He's also in
a lot of physical pain.
718
00:30:42,374 --> 00:30:44,708
He doesn't want
to feel that,
719
00:30:44,710 --> 00:30:46,977
So he does
give it to you.
720
00:30:46,979 --> 00:30:49,713
That's exactly what
I've been feeling like.
721
00:30:49,715 --> 00:30:51,215
I get these --
722
00:30:51,217 --> 00:30:55,319
I call them phantom pains
all over my body.
723
00:30:55,321 --> 00:30:57,321
Yeah.
It's not good.
724
00:30:57,323 --> 00:31:00,190
It could make you really,
really sick
725
00:31:00,192 --> 00:31:02,793
If you're exposed
to this long-term.
726
00:31:02,795 --> 00:31:06,263
It's something
that could be terminal.
727
00:31:06,265 --> 00:31:08,131
[ voice breaking ]
I have a 3-year-old.
728
00:31:08,133 --> 00:31:13,103
♪♪
729
00:31:13,105 --> 00:31:15,339
That's exactly how I feel.
730
00:31:15,341 --> 00:31:18,775
♪♪
731
00:31:18,777 --> 00:31:20,510
Steve:
So what else?
732
00:31:20,512 --> 00:31:25,282
So the next thing
that I encountered
733
00:31:25,284 --> 00:31:31,989
Was this bizarre-looking
spider-like creature,
734
00:31:31,991 --> 00:31:35,926
And it took me some time
to figure out
735
00:31:35,928 --> 00:31:39,263
That it was actually
a deceased male
736
00:31:39,265 --> 00:31:43,166
Projecting this way
to make himself scary.
737
00:31:43,168 --> 00:31:46,904
I got that
he came from extreme money,
738
00:31:46,906 --> 00:31:49,673
And this was from
a family back in England.
739
00:31:49,675 --> 00:31:51,074
He was all about money
and power
740
00:31:51,076 --> 00:31:53,710
When he was alive,
definitely not a good person,
741
00:31:53,712 --> 00:31:55,879
And he's, like,
whining for his mom.
742
00:31:55,881 --> 00:31:58,682
He's like, "I want my mom.
Where's my mom?"
743
00:31:58,684 --> 00:32:00,550
A lot of what
she's talking about
744
00:32:00,552 --> 00:32:02,619
Reminds me of a guy
that was murdered.
745
00:32:02,621 --> 00:32:03,754
What?
746
00:32:03,756 --> 00:32:05,756
It happened about a mile
from here in 1900.
747
00:32:05,758 --> 00:32:08,792
Now, the victim was a guy
named john w. Crowell.
748
00:32:08,794 --> 00:32:11,461
He was 66 years old
when he died.
749
00:32:11,463 --> 00:32:13,664
Now, the guy you saw you said
came from big money, right?
750
00:32:13,666 --> 00:32:14,731
Yeah.
751
00:32:14,733 --> 00:32:16,433
Crowell claimed to be
the descendant
752
00:32:16,435 --> 00:32:18,502
Of an
english multimillionaire,
753
00:32:18,504 --> 00:32:20,470
And he told
anyone who would listen
754
00:32:20,472 --> 00:32:23,140
That he was the heir
to the family's huge fortune,
755
00:32:23,142 --> 00:32:25,876
Which was about
$30 million.
756
00:32:25,878 --> 00:32:27,110
Wow.
757
00:32:27,112 --> 00:32:29,713
On December 4, 1900,
he was shot and killed
758
00:32:29,715 --> 00:32:32,316
While he was working on his farm
down the road from here,
759
00:32:32,318 --> 00:32:34,284
So now when the wife
heard the gunshots,
760
00:32:34,286 --> 00:32:35,953
She ran outside
to see what happened.
761
00:32:35,955 --> 00:32:39,890
And he was screaming out,
"mother, mother, mother."
762
00:32:39,892 --> 00:32:42,292
Police believed the murder
was a robbery gone bad,
763
00:32:42,294 --> 00:32:44,394
And they never found out
who did it.
764
00:32:44,396 --> 00:32:45,963
I got a drawing
of him.
765
00:32:45,965 --> 00:32:48,532
♪♪
766
00:32:48,534 --> 00:32:51,435
So do you think john crowell
might be the guy you saw?
767
00:32:51,437 --> 00:32:52,536
Yes.
768
00:32:52,538 --> 00:32:54,204
So can he do anything
to the living?
769
00:32:54,206 --> 00:32:55,505
Yeah.
770
00:32:55,507 --> 00:32:57,674
He hates living people.
771
00:32:57,676 --> 00:33:00,243
His main goal is
to scare y'all out.
772
00:33:00,245 --> 00:33:03,780
He'll do a thing
where he'll tap.
773
00:33:03,782 --> 00:33:06,316
Yeah, exactly,
the tapping.
774
00:33:06,318 --> 00:33:07,317
You did, too, right?
775
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:09,319
I've heard the tapping.
Yeah.
776
00:33:09,321 --> 00:33:12,089
He also likes to try --
777
00:33:12,091 --> 00:33:15,859
Try --
to imitate your voices.
778
00:33:15,861 --> 00:33:18,395
We've heard voices
for sure.
779
00:33:18,397 --> 00:33:20,397
Lots of voices.
780
00:33:20,399 --> 00:33:24,801
And I have heard my husband
call my name after he died.
781
00:33:24,803 --> 00:33:27,471
He likes to hide in the dark
and in shadows
782
00:33:27,473 --> 00:33:30,273
Because, you know,
it makes him look scarier.
783
00:33:30,275 --> 00:33:33,777
He showed himself to me
as an m-shaped spider creature.
784
00:33:33,779 --> 00:33:35,445
I see this --
785
00:33:35,447 --> 00:33:37,447
It's like
a shadow of a spider.
786
00:33:37,449 --> 00:33:38,682
Okay.
787
00:33:38,684 --> 00:33:42,719
I'll see it on the wall
closest to my head.
788
00:33:42,721 --> 00:33:44,988
Ann, now, you saw a black mass
over your bed, right,
789
00:33:44,990 --> 00:33:46,423
When you were
in the house? Ann: Yes.
790
00:33:46,425 --> 00:33:49,993
It started to get more solid,
and it started to descend,
791
00:33:49,995 --> 00:33:52,596
To come down
right at my face,
792
00:33:52,598 --> 00:33:54,765
And then it eventually
went back up
793
00:33:54,767 --> 00:33:56,933
And it dissipated
towards the ceiling.
794
00:33:56,935 --> 00:33:59,569
So the tapping,
the voices,
795
00:33:59,571 --> 00:34:01,204
This creature,
it's all the same person?
796
00:34:01,206 --> 00:34:05,042
That's "m," yeah,
who I call "m," or john.
797
00:34:05,044 --> 00:34:09,179
So I was in
the lavender bedroom,
798
00:34:09,181 --> 00:34:12,115
And I was seeing "m,"
799
00:34:12,117 --> 00:34:15,252
But he had
put himself in the wall.
800
00:34:15,254 --> 00:34:18,188
Mm-hmm.
And I had a sketch done of that.
801
00:34:18,190 --> 00:34:25,162
♪♪
802
00:34:25,164 --> 00:34:27,130
Grandma,
this is your room.
803
00:34:27,132 --> 00:34:29,800
♪♪
804
00:34:29,802 --> 00:34:31,468
Oh,
for heaven's sake.
805
00:34:31,470 --> 00:34:33,937
♪♪
806
00:34:33,939 --> 00:34:35,272
Well,
that's something, huh?
807
00:34:35,274 --> 00:34:36,540
That's scary.
808
00:34:36,542 --> 00:34:38,809
Steve: What's this thing
doing to rose?
809
00:34:38,811 --> 00:34:40,544
Amy:
He was feeding. Alyssa: Mm!
810
00:34:40,546 --> 00:34:42,679
And when the dead
feed off the living,
811
00:34:42,681 --> 00:34:45,649
They are sucking
your energy out,
812
00:34:45,651 --> 00:34:47,851
Like,
your life energy.
813
00:34:47,853 --> 00:34:49,086
Oh.
814
00:34:49,088 --> 00:34:53,223
So I'm very concerned
about that situation.
815
00:34:53,225 --> 00:34:56,026
Well, I have woke up a few times
with short of breath.
816
00:34:56,028 --> 00:34:58,361
Okay.
Yeah, I have had that happen.
817
00:34:58,363 --> 00:35:02,132
What you just described
is exactly what happens to me.
818
00:35:02,134 --> 00:35:05,035
Oh.
I wake up gasping for air.
819
00:35:05,037 --> 00:35:08,805
I feel like the life
is being sucked out of me.
820
00:35:08,807 --> 00:35:10,774
It's probably
traveling around the house
821
00:35:10,776 --> 00:35:13,577
And feeding
off of everybody.
822
00:35:13,579 --> 00:35:16,413
The other thing that
I experienced in that room...
823
00:35:16,415 --> 00:35:20,083
Getting really bad
lower-abdominal pains
824
00:35:20,085 --> 00:35:23,220
All the way through my back,
my hips.
825
00:35:23,222 --> 00:35:26,957
It feels like I'm being
either hit or punched.
826
00:35:26,959 --> 00:35:31,895
♪♪
827
00:35:31,897 --> 00:35:33,964
This whole stomach area...
Yeah.
828
00:35:33,966 --> 00:35:36,766
...Continuous pain
that never left.
829
00:35:36,768 --> 00:35:38,902
[bleep]
is it possible
830
00:35:38,904 --> 00:35:42,172
Kenzie has interacted
with this thing?
831
00:35:42,174 --> 00:35:44,374
Yeah.
Oh, my god.
832
00:35:44,376 --> 00:35:46,176
That's why she...
833
00:35:46,178 --> 00:35:49,012
Wakes up
sometimes at night,
834
00:35:49,014 --> 00:35:50,280
Kind of like I do.
835
00:35:50,282 --> 00:35:52,682
She'll be, like,
swatting at herself and saying,
836
00:35:52,684 --> 00:35:54,050
"get it off me.
Get it,"
837
00:35:54,052 --> 00:35:56,987
Like she thinks there's a bug
on her or something.
838
00:35:56,989 --> 00:36:02,459
♪♪
839
00:36:02,461 --> 00:36:04,761
Steve:
Did you see anything else?
840
00:36:04,763 --> 00:36:08,298
When I went into
the dining room,
841
00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:11,234
I did feel an overwhelming
sensation of death
842
00:36:11,236 --> 00:36:13,503
Coming from every direction.
Mm-hmm.
843
00:36:13,505 --> 00:36:15,605
I got that someone
had died here recently
844
00:36:15,607 --> 00:36:17,574
Or that someone here
was close to death,
845
00:36:17,576 --> 00:36:22,779
And then
I saw a tunnel.
846
00:36:22,781 --> 00:36:26,449
Now,
this is the same tunnel
847
00:36:26,451 --> 00:36:30,120
That some people see
when they die.
848
00:36:30,122 --> 00:36:31,788
♪♪
849
00:36:31,790 --> 00:36:34,624
The dead are constantly
passing through this tunnel,
850
00:36:34,626 --> 00:36:37,093
And being around it
can make you drained
851
00:36:37,095 --> 00:36:41,798
And it can make you
very sick -- very sick.
852
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,166
Now, you feel nauseous a lot,
right?
853
00:36:43,168 --> 00:36:45,435
Oh, my gosh, yes,
all the time.
854
00:36:45,437 --> 00:36:47,504
You mentioned
feeling drained. Oh, god.
855
00:36:47,506 --> 00:36:51,508
Well, that's --
you got a lot going on.
856
00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:54,744
So I mentioned a lot of deaths
that this property had and has,
857
00:36:54,746 --> 00:36:56,546
But this family has had
858
00:36:56,548 --> 00:36:59,115
Their own fair share
of that, as well.
859
00:36:59,117 --> 00:37:02,786
I believe this house
killed my father.
860
00:37:02,788 --> 00:37:05,789
I think
it killed my sister,
861
00:37:05,791 --> 00:37:09,492
And I think it tries
to just consume you.
862
00:37:09,494 --> 00:37:12,095
And I just feel
that it just keeps trying
863
00:37:12,097 --> 00:37:14,097
To drag you back to it,
back to it, back to it.
864
00:37:14,099 --> 00:37:16,099
It's like you can't
get away from it.
865
00:37:16,101 --> 00:37:17,634
You believe
whatever is in this house
866
00:37:17,636 --> 00:37:20,437
Is looking to do similar thing
to your grandmother?
867
00:37:20,439 --> 00:37:23,406
Yeah, I think --
and, nana, think about it.
868
00:37:23,408 --> 00:37:27,510
I don't have that fear,
and I don't know why.
869
00:37:27,512 --> 00:37:28,745
But you understand
everybody is here
870
00:37:28,747 --> 00:37:30,113
Because they're worried
about you.
871
00:37:30,115 --> 00:37:31,548
Yes.
872
00:37:31,550 --> 00:37:35,285
I have 19 years of memories
that I don't want to leave.
873
00:37:35,287 --> 00:37:38,888
I don't want to lose that,
even if I had to live with fear.
874
00:37:38,890 --> 00:37:40,590
So what kind of danger
is rose in,
875
00:37:40,592 --> 00:37:42,459
Even though
she won't hear it anyway?
876
00:37:42,461 --> 00:37:45,262
It could make you really,
really sick
877
00:37:45,264 --> 00:37:47,464
If you're exposed
to this long-term.
878
00:37:47,466 --> 00:37:49,766
Well, see,
that I don't agree with.
879
00:37:49,768 --> 00:37:51,668
♪♪
880
00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:53,370
So no matter
what we say tonight,
881
00:37:53,372 --> 00:37:55,005
It's never going to make you
move from this house.
882
00:37:55,007 --> 00:37:56,106
No.
883
00:37:56,108 --> 00:37:59,542
It's my home that I love,
full of memories,
884
00:37:59,544 --> 00:38:01,745
And I'm not going to
walk away from.
885
00:38:01,747 --> 00:38:03,246
Alyssa: Nana,
think about it.
886
00:38:03,248 --> 00:38:07,584
It slowly,
over how many years,
887
00:38:07,586 --> 00:38:11,321
Slowly sucked the life
out of papa.
888
00:38:11,323 --> 00:38:13,356
You're in
a very bad situation.
889
00:38:13,358 --> 00:38:18,094
That house is sucking the life
out of everyone -- everyone.
890
00:38:18,096 --> 00:38:19,763
It's causing illness.
891
00:38:19,765 --> 00:38:21,698
It's caused discord.
892
00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:23,233
It's evil.
893
00:38:23,235 --> 00:38:24,801
It's going to kill
my mother,
894
00:38:24,803 --> 00:38:26,469
My daughter,
my granddaughter.
895
00:38:26,471 --> 00:38:35,912
♪♪
896
00:38:35,914 --> 00:38:36,913
♪♪
897
00:38:38,717 --> 00:38:44,554
♪♪
898
00:38:44,556 --> 00:38:47,724
Steve: Alyssa, ann, I know
it's frustrating for you two,
899
00:38:47,726 --> 00:38:51,294
But it seems pretty obvious
rose isn't going anywhere.
900
00:38:51,296 --> 00:38:53,963
Now it's even more important
that we address this question.
901
00:38:53,965 --> 00:38:57,701
Is there any way
to get rid of this crap
902
00:38:57,703 --> 00:39:00,003
So you could stay here
and take care of your nana
903
00:39:00,005 --> 00:39:03,073
Without putting you
and your daughter at risk?
904
00:39:03,075 --> 00:39:05,675
So for that answer, I'm going to
turn it over to amy.
905
00:39:05,677 --> 00:39:09,145
♪♪
906
00:39:09,147 --> 00:39:11,815
Amy: There are several things
I want you guys to do,
907
00:39:11,817 --> 00:39:14,751
So the first thing
would be a medium
908
00:39:14,753 --> 00:39:18,621
Would need to come
to reunite the farmer, david,
909
00:39:18,623 --> 00:39:21,391
With his wife,
sally.
910
00:39:21,393 --> 00:39:25,061
The medium will then
help them to move on,
911
00:39:25,063 --> 00:39:26,996
And once
this is complete,
912
00:39:26,998 --> 00:39:31,501
You're going to feel
a lot better.
913
00:39:31,503 --> 00:39:35,372
The second thing that
this medium needs to do
914
00:39:35,374 --> 00:39:39,376
Is to summon "m,"
or john.
915
00:39:39,378 --> 00:39:42,979
The medium will also
pull john's family,
916
00:39:42,981 --> 00:39:44,381
And when
he sees his mother,
917
00:39:44,383 --> 00:39:47,517
He'll go with her
and leave everyone here alone.
918
00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:49,219
So she'll stop
seeing those shadows
919
00:39:49,221 --> 00:39:50,587
That look like big spiders
and stuff.
920
00:39:50,589 --> 00:39:53,656
Yeah.
I can't wait for that.
921
00:39:53,658 --> 00:39:59,696
The third thing
that I would like you to try
922
00:39:59,698 --> 00:40:05,468
Is to have the medium go
to the location of the tunnel
923
00:40:05,470 --> 00:40:11,541
And try to possibly relocate
this tunnel.
924
00:40:11,543 --> 00:40:14,778
I guess you have
a 50/50 shot.
925
00:40:14,780 --> 00:40:16,212
And if
it doesn't work out?
926
00:40:16,214 --> 00:40:18,415
Even if the medium
can't remove the tunnel,
927
00:40:18,417 --> 00:40:20,617
It will still be safe
to stay here.
928
00:40:20,619 --> 00:40:24,154
♪♪
929
00:40:24,156 --> 00:40:28,658
So the big question is
are you going to do it?
930
00:40:28,660 --> 00:40:31,094
Oh, yeah,
without a doubt.
931
00:40:31,096 --> 00:40:34,898
To feel like my old self again
would be nice,
932
00:40:34,900 --> 00:40:36,466
Would be very nice
933
00:40:36,468 --> 00:40:38,968
To not have to be
so scared all the time
934
00:40:38,970 --> 00:40:40,937
That I'm going to die.
935
00:40:40,939 --> 00:40:44,641
Once it's fixed --
[laughs]
936
00:40:44,643 --> 00:40:47,777
Once it's fixed,
I'll be a lot better.
937
00:40:47,779 --> 00:40:50,947
Grandma,
are you onboard?
938
00:40:50,949 --> 00:40:53,316
If amy says it,
absolutely.
939
00:40:53,318 --> 00:40:55,351
Okay, good.
No question.
940
00:40:55,353 --> 00:40:57,287
I feel better about this.
941
00:40:57,289 --> 00:41:01,591
Amy has done us a great service,
and it makes me feel better.
942
00:41:01,593 --> 00:41:04,360
Everything worked out perfect.
943
00:41:04,362 --> 00:41:06,463
It really did.
944
00:41:06,465 --> 00:41:08,731
Amy: I'm glad I was able
to deliver good news
945
00:41:08,733 --> 00:41:10,366
To alyssa and her family.
946
00:41:10,368 --> 00:41:13,503
As long as they contact a medium
to remove the dead,
947
00:41:13,505 --> 00:41:15,772
They will find the peace
they've been looking for,
948
00:41:15,774 --> 00:41:19,542
And rose will be able to stay
in the home she loves so much.
949
00:41:19,544 --> 00:41:23,313
♪♪
950
00:41:23,315 --> 00:41:25,148
Hi, steve and amy.
951
00:41:25,150 --> 00:41:27,150
I wanted to update you guys
952
00:41:27,152 --> 00:41:29,452
On what's been going on
since you came out.
953
00:41:29,454 --> 00:41:31,154
We did take amy's advice.
954
00:41:31,156 --> 00:41:34,224
We contacted the psychic
that she recommended.
955
00:41:34,226 --> 00:41:37,060
She was able
to sever the attachment
956
00:41:37,062 --> 00:41:39,229
From mr. Wiley and myself.
957
00:41:39,231 --> 00:41:42,365
Unfortunately,
"m" is still here.
958
00:41:42,367 --> 00:41:46,569
I've been getting my hair pulled
and, like, my head touched,
959
00:41:46,571 --> 00:41:49,138
So the psychic
may have to come out
960
00:41:49,140 --> 00:41:50,874
A couple of more times,
actually.
961
00:41:50,876 --> 00:41:53,943
For the first time in a
long time, we're very hopeful,
962
00:41:53,945 --> 00:41:57,313
So on behalf of myself
and my entire family,
963
00:41:57,315 --> 00:41:59,616
We wanted to say
thank you, guys.
964
00:41:59,666 --> 00:42:04,216
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