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He doesn't want any living people here.

He's pushed people down the stairs.

I've had several accidents falling and rolling down.

You could break your neck and die.

I'm feeling choking, smothered.

Get the [bleep] out of my house.

You're picking on my kids.

Why don't you come and pick on me?

You have a dead person inside you.

[ sniffles ]

Amy: He's shouting, "this is mine.

Get out. Get out."

I'm hearing the devil's triangle.

My name is amy allan.

I see dead people.

I think he might've been a stalker.

I speak to dead people, and they speak to me.

He will kill you. He has killed people.

But there's only one way to know if my findings are real...

They're being possessed.

...I rely on my partner.

I'm steve dischiavi.

I'm a retired new york city homicide detective...

How many people died here over the years?

...And I know every person, every house, has secrets.

It's my job to reveal them.

But steve and I never speak...

We never communicate during an investigation.

...Until the very end.

This sketch is like a nightmare.

When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay...

I never thought the biggest problem was me.

...Or time to get out.

He could, more than likely, kill you.

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Steve: So I'm out here in upper darby, pennsylvania.

It's about 15 minutes west of philadelphia.

I got a call from a mom named nicole.

Now, she bought her family a good-sized house out here,

But everyone is so terrified

They spend their nights huddled in one room.

She says activity is getting more dangerous by the day,

And if we can't stop it, someone is gonna die.

♪♪

Amy: I just saw darkness in this place.

Like, it feels very wrong.

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The dead are overcome with anger and then I just felt utter fear.

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So nicole, when we spoke on the phone,

Things didn't sound good.

What's going on?

Something in this home is torturing my family.

It's extremely dangerous.

Okay, so who all lives in the house?

Okay. All right. So that's you, obviously.

That's me.

This is darren, my youngest, he's eight.

Nikiva, he's 17.

Bethany, she's 20.

How long have you been here?

Seven years.

This home was a new start for us.

All the children, we've had their own bedrooms.

But we're all basically bunked up in one room,

Because of the experiences.

All right. Well, that's no way to live.

No, it isn't.

Do me a favor, give me a list of what you guys are experiencing.

We hear knocking.

We hear voices.

Shadow figures.

Constant night terrors.

And our health is being physically attacked.

And when you guys leave the house,

As far as your health,

Do you feel any different, any better? No.

Whenever I leave this house,

I can actually feel that energy with me.

What do you think it wants from you, whoever it is here?

To kill, destroy, and separate.

Would you move, if you had to?

I would definitely move.

Even if it's fixed I still wouldn't want to leave here,

Because it would be like reliving a nightmare.

So what did you need us here for?

I don't want to move and carry what's here to my next home.

I try to be strong for my children.

I just want everything to be over so we can move on.

I just want those kids to be happy.

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Amy: There's a lot of dead people here.

All the dead are suddenly converging.

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I do believe that people are seeing

And experiencing various dead people here.

They would see apparitions walking around in the streets.

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You're dealing with 30 or 40 dead people.

There's a possibility that one or two of them are

[bleep] nuts and might harm the living.

So I think that the living would have that experience of feeling

Very confused and profoundly disturbed.

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Steve: So what's going on in here?

I have a feeling of being watched in this room.

It's something that's definitely negative and actually

Is draining your energy. - All right.

So the feeling of that negative being watched

And feeling drained is connected? Yes.

Anything else?

These stairs over here.

I've had several accidents where I came falling

And rolling down to the bottom of the step.

How often does that happen?

About 10 times?

You know, nicole, you get to the bottom of that stairs

And you fall and hit your head,

You could break your neck and die.

I know. That's what I'm afraid of.

Okay.

Amy: There's a dead female here.

I think that the dead woman is putting herself

In this living woman.

So it's been a slow progression of her,

Like, inserting herself inside of this living woman.

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So this dead chick, she fell down.

I think a male had something to do with it.

So I think that there was fighting going on between

This dead woman and some guy,

And she fell down the stairs.

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She hurt her head and her neck.

I think she might've done this to the living woman, too, like,

Reenacting it?

This dead female has made her fall.

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So I know you guys are all sleeping together in here

Because you're afraid.

- Yes. - Has it helped at all?

- No, it hasn't helped. - Okay.

So what's going on in here?

I have a fear of extraterrestrials,

And this thing that's in this home knows that.

Okay.

So I normally have dreams of being abducted,

Being experimented on,

And I get held down in my room at night

To the point where I'm having, like, seizure-like activity.

My body is just moving violently.

So nicole, I see a hell of a lot of medication over there.

Can any of that stuff be causing the nightmares

Or this physical paralysis you're going through?

- No, not at all. - All right.

Any other physical things like that?

Yes.

One night, I was sleeping and I felt two hands

Pulling me up out of the bed.

It felt aggressive.

Is anything else going on?

Migraines and nausea.

Full body pain.

What makes you convinced it's all paranormal?

Because I didn't have any of these problems

Before I moved in this home.

I don't know how you're dealing with all this.

I spent many a nights up crying.

We try to stay as positive as we can,

But in this situation, it's hard.

Okay.

♪♪

There's a living female here and there's a male

Who [bleep] hates her.

This is a younger dead male.

Definitely wife-beater.

Something about her reminds him of his dead wife.

♪♪

I think his dead wife is the lady from the stairs.

This dead woman has, like,

Slowly merged with this living woman.

Her intentions are to be able to hide

From this nasty dead male.

♪♪

The dead male is now focusing his rage

On this living woman

And is beating on her.

♪♪

It is causing her pain and I believe,

If it continues it could cause

Some long-term illnesses to some organs.

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He definitely makes women feel nauseous.

The living woman is getting weaker and weaker

Because she's always with the dead.

Okay.

So it's making her sick, physically sick,

And then on top of it she's got this guy beating on her.

Don't feel good.

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So beverly, I understand you're nicole's mom.

- Yes, I am. - Okay.

She's got some pretty bad things going on here.

I am concerned and very worried.

I can't even describe how awful it is.

I mean, it's a serious situation.

So have you had experiences in the house? Yes.

When I enter the house, I get an overwhelming feeling

Like I'm just being emotionally and physically drained.

You know, nicole mentioned that to me as well.

Okay, anything else you experiencing in the house?

Yes, I experience, like,

A presence of heaviness, darkness.

I don't know, and I feel like it's just around all the time.

Well, that's got to make it uncomfortable to be here.

I don't come inside this house anymore.

Okay.

I have the children and my daughter to come out

And visit me on the porch.

Okay. So it's that bad?

It's awful.

Nicole believes that whatever is here is gonna kill her. Yes.

It's draining her, her health,

And I personally can't get any rest

Until she gets the help that she needs, her and the family.

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Amy: I'm getting some weird stuff.

I'm seeing thick black goo.

So it doesn't have a shape and it's just big.

It's like human-size.

No distinct characteristics.

It's not male or female.

It's just a blob.

Literally turns into, like, a body in a bag.

Like, if you were to roll a body in a carpet

And drag it down there, that's what it sounds like

When it's going down the stairs here.

And it's gone up on the ceiling,

And then coming down and smothering.

And I think that the living are thinking,

"ooh, the dark is getting darker.

The darkness is getting thicker."

And they can't breathe.

♪♪

So darren, how old are you?

-8. -8 years old, okay.

Talking to mommy, she said there's some scary stuff

Going on in the house here.

We have experienced, like, a lot of stuff.

So why don't you tell me about some things that are happening?

The shadow entities.

You see shadow entities.

Now, where do you see these things?

I see them in my mom's closet...

Okay.

...And I also see in beth's room.

So we're talking about your sister's room, up in the attic?

Yeah.

Sometimes I just see it, peeking at me.

Okay.

And as soon as I look at it, it disappears.

So darren, the stuff that's going on in the house

Is kind of scary, do you want to move?

- Yeah. - You do, huh?

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Amy: I think that dark blob is actually a dead woman.

The living do encounter her a lot here.

She comes out of spooky places.

So closets.

[ door opens, closes ]

She goes on the ceilings.

She's trying to be near people and it's like she's...

But she's so consuming.

I don't know if they're seeing a shadow, like,

Shadow figure or whatever.

It's more like, like I said, she's dark and smothers.

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So bethany, I understand this used to be your bedroom?

Yes, it did.

But I moved out about six months ago

Because of the experiences that I've had up here.

Your experiences, what can you tell me?

It started off with nightmares.

So the nightmares that you were having, what are they about?

They're always violent,

And they're always about my family members.

All right. Anything else?

I actually saw the shadow figure walk around my bed.

Then, when it got to the side of me,

It jumped on top of me.

My back was hurting.

I couldn't breathe.

So how long did this go for?

At least a minute,

But it feels like forever when it's happening.

Any other attacks like that?

Physical attacks, I've been pushed down the stairs.

You, too?

Yeah, it's happened at least two or three times.

- You sure you didn't trip? - Yeah.

I mean, you're lucky you didn't get killed. Yeah.

Bethany, when I was talking to mom,

I noticed her low energy.

And she told me she just feels constantly drained.

Are you feeling that way as well?

Yeah, as soon as you come into this house from outside,

You immediately feel drained.

You can watch them make us sickly to the point

Where we die.

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Amy: I'm getting a male.

He's an older male. He's shouting.

He's like, "just get out of here.

This is mine. Get out. Get out."

Oh, he's angry. He's so angry.

Oh, my lord.

Ooh. Ooh, ooh, ooh.

He's pissed off.

I know he can interact with the living.

He's a pusher.

So I think he's pushed people down the stairs.

I know that the living are having experiences with him

As far as him being able to move their beds.

I know that he takes great pride in the fact

That he can induce nightmares.

All of a sudden, I'm feeling choking.

I'm feeling smothered.

He doesn't want any living people here.

He's pretty much done with everything.

He's yelling and yelling and yelling.

All right. I don't like him.

He's bad.

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So before I got to town I made my usual calls,

Historians, archivists, cops.

I just got a call back from a genealogist

Who did some digging for me.

She says one of the early owners of nicole's property

Were quakers who suffered a lot of death,

And eventually managed to get themselves

Kicked out of their church.

♪♪

So julie, I appreciate you helping me out with this case.

Now, before we get to the tragedy

That happened to this family,

I mean, what do we know about them

And when did they get to my client's property?

So david and mary sellers inherited property in 1868.

David was a craftsman,

And he worked with leather and metal for his trade.

Okay. And mary basically...

- Took care of the family. - All right.

So let's get to the tragedies, what are we talking about?

They had six children and three of them died.

Do we have any idea what these kids died from?

We don't know what they died from.

You said they inherited the property in 1868,

Is that when they moved in?

No, 1874 they were able to move into the house

That they inherited from mary's parents.

And it's 1,000 feet away

From where your client's house is now.

Okay, so did things get better for them there? No.

In 1877, the house mysteriously caught on fire,

And it burned to the ground.

Now, you mentioned this family got kicked out of the church.

How did that happen?

David had to resort to selling products

To the military in order to survive,

And quakers are very nonviolent people.

So in 1887 they disowned him from the church.

- They threw him out? - Yeah.

So what happened to him?

So it's unfortunate, but a couple months

After he ended up passing away.

And he died of chronic bronchitis.

So he was, what, 71 years old when he dies? Yeah, 71.

- So does he die on the property? - Yes.

So when you said on the phone this family

Had some serious tragedy going on, you weren't kidding.

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Amy: That old dead guy is going crazy up here.

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He says, "this is mine. It's going to remain mine."

I feel like he owned this place.

I'd put him in his 70s.

I'm getting that he was here in the 1870s,

And I hear '74,

'74 was a big year for him.

He feels cornered.

He's got some weird obsession with fire,

Because he's like, "this is it. I'm done.

"this is the last [bleep] straw.

"and I'm burning it down. I've had it.

I'm gonna burn this place to the ground."

So I just got a call from the police

Superintendent for upper darby.

He says he found a bizarre murder

Right up the block from nicole's property.

Now, here's the weirdest part,

He says the killer dropped the victim's body parts

All over the neighborhood.

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Superintendent chitwood, I appreciate

You helping me out with this case.

So what do we know about our victim?

The victim's name was john dopirak, 33 years old.

He was in world war ii.

He was a purple heart winner.

And when he came back, he fell onto hard times,

Became homeless, started drinking.

Okay. So the murder, take me through what happened.

April the 23rd of 1954,

John is doing his usual drinking in front of a local bar.

John hooks up with a guy by the name of francis ballem.

What do we know about him?

He was very, very eccentric,

Flamboyant, wears these crazy clothes.

Both his parents had passed away,

Leaving him fairly well off.

All right, so what the hell happened?

Ballem lured this guy back to his house.

All right, so they go back to ballem's house,

And that's where the murder happens.

Now, how far is that from my client's property?

Probably about 1,000 feet.

Okay. So it's close.

Okay. So what happens next?

Ballem shoots john twice in the chest, killing him.

Just to show you how heinous this crime is,

He took a blowtorch and blowtorched the face of john,

Along with his hands and arms.

Okay, so he's trying not to have him identified.

Right. And then, subsequently,

He dismembers him and takes the body

And puts the body in some type of trunk -- okay.

...And then takes the trunk to one of the local trolley stops.

So four days later police discover this suitcase.

Okay. So...

It gets better.

Inside the trunk is a brown paper bag

And it's got ballem, b- a-l-l-e-m, will call.

Not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

He doesn't leave that bag with the body,

We got nothing to go on. - Right.

This is ballem identifying the deceased john.

Okay.

They asked him, "is this the guy

That you killed and dismembered?"

He said, "yeah. I'll never forget the smile."

He's placed in the institution for the criminally insane

And in 1991 he died at the age of 67

And he died as a result of bleeding ulcers.

This guy got off easy.

In my opinion, he didn't get what he deserved.

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Amy: There's a dead guy out here.

He really doesn't want me here.

I see him as a well-to-do male dressed in equestrian clothing.

I do feel that he was wealthy.

I do feel that he came from a well-to-do european family.

He's short. He's kind of hunched.

Probably in his 30s.

Then I hear, he is the one who killed.

♪♪

There's another younger man up here.

I would say, maybe, he's in his 20s?

So this guy is really scared,

Like, he can't breathe.

He can't breathe.

It's like the darkness just closing in on him

And smothering him, and he can't breathe.

He can't get a breath.

♪♪

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Steve: So far, I have a family terrified something

In their house is trying to kill them.

In the neighborhood where a gruesome murder occurred,

But I want to see if there's anything else.

Searching through old records, I find another brutal homicide.

Turns out the killer lived right down the street

From nicole's house.

So I'm headed out to meet a retired cop and historian

Who looked into this homicide for me.

Now, he says the victim was an outgoing woman

Who fell for the wrong guy,

And she paid the ultimate price for it.

♪♪

This murder that I came across in my research,

What do we know about this female victim?

The woman's name was anna dietrick.

She was 35 years old.

And this is a picture of her.

Okay. So now we know who the victim is.

What were the circumstances of her murder?

Well, in early January 1926, she just disappeared.

Okay.

No one knew what happened to her,

And a few days later body parts

Began popping up out in delaware county.

The first thing they found was her torso and legs,

And then they also found a head about 2,000 feet

From your client's home today.

When they found her head, it was wrapped in this bloody rug.

The relatives came and they positively identified the head

As belonging to anna dietrick.

This is the second murder near my client's house

That involved chopping up the victim's body.

I know, it's weird.

So keith, you had mentioned on the phone

That she, obviously, fell for the wrong guy.

- I'm assuming that's our perp? - Yes.

The family said she had been dating this doctor,

David marshall. - Okay.

He was supposedly a chiropractor,

But he was not a licensed chiropractor.

He was a salesman by trade, and his house was about

1,500 feet away from your client's home.

And when they searched his house,

They found the exact same rug that had been found

With the head with a little bit of blood on it.

And basically, you know, the rugs matched perfectly.

Okay.

They also found some bloody rags in his house.

Okay. So this genius had lots of the crime scene at his house?

Right.

And the police arrested him right then and there.

Marshall finally admitted to the police

That he had murdered anna dietrick

By putting several handkerchiefs in her mouth

And then choking her with his bare hands.

And this is her death certificate right here,

And it even has his name on the death certificate.

"compression of the throat at the hands of david marshall."

They already have him convicted in this report? Yes.

All right. So we know how he killed her.

Why does he kill her?

Well, marshall had been married

The whole time that he was dating her,

You know, and he finally got caught.

So he was just scared that she was going to

Blackmail him for money.

He goes to trial. What happened?

He was sentenced to 10 to 20 years in jail.

How much time does he actually do?

He did 10 years.

He was paroled in 1936.

Okay.

And then after he was paroled, he moved to florida.

He remarried, and he died in florida

At the age of 68 of a heart attack.

Well, when you said she made the wrong choice,

You weren't kidding.

She thought she had a good guy with her doctor,

And turned out he's probably

The worst choice she could've made.

Okay.

Amy: Wow.

There is a woman buried down here.

It's the woman who looks like the dark blob.

She was murdered and was buried near here.

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Any idea what she looked like? Who she was?

She was young, late 20s early 30s.

Okay.

She was strangled

And hit in the head.

She started haunting the place as soon as this happened.

Then she turned into that black thing,

Because that's how she feels about herself.

♪♪

I saw a lot of disturbing things on my walk,

But the angry man pushing a living person down

The stairs has me the most concerned.

He was, I think, in his 70s, maybe?

He's got a little bit of hair, but not much.

- A little thinner in the face. - Okay.

I know he was, like, average build.

And someone is in motion of falling down the stairs.

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Amy, is this what you saw?

Yes.

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Steve: Now that amy and I have completed our investigations,

We're ready to reveal our findings to each other

And our clients for the first time.

So amy, this is nicole and her daughter, bethany.

Now, they live here with nicole's two other kids.

There's nikiva, who's 17, and this is darren, who's 8.

Now, over the past seven years,

Activity here has scared this family so bad nicole says

She's moving out regardless of what you tell her tonight.

But, they're hoping you can make this place safe

So they can sell it

Without putting another family through hell.

Now that amy knows who you guys are,

I'll ask her to describe her walk for us.

♪♪

This area is extremely active.

There was probably about 30 or 40 dead people

That were converging outside, and I was really overwhelmed.

You would, maybe, see apparitions out in the road,

But the most likely way you would experience them

Is emotionally, feeling anxious or on edge.

Amy, the emotional things you describe sound similar

To how these two describe every day life here.

Yes, I have anxiety disorder.

So at any given time

I could be happy, carefree,

And at the next second I could be snapping angry.

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All right. So what else?

So I went up into the attic bedroom,

And I saw this...

Black blob.

And I kind of felt like people might see it coming out

Of closets, moving across the ceilings,

Smothering the living person in particular

In that room in the bed.

Steve: Now, bethany used to sleep in that attic.

I couldn't take it anymore.

It was one particular afternoon where I was laying in bed

And this really tall shadow, solid black thing,

Cruised around my bed, strolled over,

And just jumped on top of me. - Mm.

I couldn't breathe. I couldn't talk.

I really thought that I was going to die.

[ glasses thud ]

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So I'm standing at the top of the stairs, right there.

And I see that thing turning into, like, a dead body

Being rolled up into,

Like, a carpet or, like, in a body bag thing,

And then being dragged down the stairs.

And when I saw it in that form, I felt extraordinarily drained

So I definitely thought you guys might experience that.

I don't have any energy,

At all.

Sometimes I can barely get out of bed in the morning.

I finally did figure out that this is a deceased female.

She just shows herself that way

Because that's how she feels about herself.

Like, she feels like she's a mess.

Did you get anything else from this woman, when she was alive?

She was young.

I would put her in her 20s or early 30s.

She was in a horrible abusive relationship.

They had some horrible, horrible fight that ended

With her falling down the stairs.

I do believe that she was murdered.

I got that she was strangled and hit in the head,

And I believe that she was buried near here.

Well, I got an idea of who that woman might have been, actually.

Now, she was a murder victim from around here.

Her name was anna dietrick and she was 35 years old.

She dated a local chiropractor by the name of david marshall

For at least six years, only to find out in 1926

That he was married the whole time.

[ gasps ] mm.

So now this guy was afraid anna was gonna tell his wife

Or blackmail him for money.

So marshall took the woman back to his apartment

And murdered her, which is about 1,500 feet from here.

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He stuffed her mouth full of handkerchiefs

And strangled her to death. - Oh, my god.

I got her death certificate right here.

Now, you said you thought the woman you saw

Was buried near here.

Well, after marshall killed her, he dismembered her body,

And ditched her body parts all around town.

- That's so horrible. - Damn.

So he ditched her arm in a park nearby.

Then he rolled her decapitated head in carpet --

- Oh, my god. - Oh, [bleep].

...And discarded it near some train tracks

About 2,000 feet from here.

Marshall wound up confessing to the murder,

But get this, he only served 10 years.

- What? - You're kidding me.

I actually have a photo of her.

Think this is the woman you saw?

Well, sure.

- I mean, she was strangled. - Mm.

He rolled her head in a carpet.

That's absolutely horrible.

Steve: What does she want with these guys?

What I gathered was that her boyfriend

Was still abusing her in death,

And that's why she's always hiding.

Now, here's the problem,

Is that she's hiding inside...

...You.

It actually is very dangerous for you.

I wanted to ask you, have you fallen down the stairs?

I have had so many accidents on those steps.

I could be holding on to

The railing and then I just fall,

And I fall all the way

All the way down the steps.

It's not normal.

So something that really concerned me is that,

The dead guy, he sees you but when he sees you he sees her.

And so now he's beating on you.

And what I saw was not necessarily you feeling punches,

But getting wicked, like, muscle spasms,

Sharp pains for no reason.

♪♪

I feel like the repetitive abuse that he's causing could lead

To kidney, bladder, and stomach issues.

I have digestive issues.

I'm in constant pain every day.

It feels like I've been hit.

It feels like I've been tortured in my sleep.

I've tried to get her out the house

And she has no energy to leave.

It makes sense, because you have a dead person inside you,

All the time.

- Her body is breaking down -- - mm-hmm.

...Because you're also an empath,

Which is why she probably tried to hide in you.

♪♪

One of the other threats is an elderly man,

Very angry, very nasty.

Got that he was probably in his late 70s.

I'm thinking he owned this house.

I got very clearly that '74 was a huge year for him,

And he kept saying,

"if I can't live here in peace by myself,

I'm just gonna burn the whole [bleep] place down."

Couple of things you said did remind me

Of one of the early owners of the property.

His name was david sellers, and he was a descendant

Of some of the original quakers that settled in this area.

He was a laborer and a tradesman.

Now, you mentioned '74 was a big year --

- Yeah. - ...For this guy?

Well, he moved his family onto this property back in 1874.

A little while later,

The sellers family home caught fire,

Destroying everything inside.

Those fires left him in bad shape financially.

Now, in order to make ends meet,

He had to sell products to the local military.

Now, quakers are strictly nonviolent

So they kicked him out of the church --

- Okay. - ...In 1887.

So he died two months later from chronic bronchitis,

And he was 71 years old when he died.

And he died right here on this property. Mm.

Now, could this be the guy up in the attic?

I mean, it sounds a lot like him.

So you mentioned that this guy is a real threat,

What could he do to them?

He said he hates living people in his space.

He tries to lash out every chance he gets.

I know that he takes great pride in the fact

That he can induce nightmares.

He goes, "I find out exactly what scares them."

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And he puts it into your mind.

He's given me horrible dreams.

[ crying ]

Steve: She has some nightmares, too.

- I have a fear of ets. - Oof.

And I will have this dream very often,

Basically the same scenario each time.

I'm being abducted.

I'm being experimented on.

What else is this guy doing to them?

I did see him pushing somebody down the stairs.

Oh, my god.

Just let me get this straight, what's happening to nicole

And her stumbling down the stairs

Is from this woman that's been abused by this guy

And bethany is being tripped by this old guy?

Yeah.

So I did have a sketch done of that.

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Geez.

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It is horrible.

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I was walking down the stairs and I was holding on

And I felt something sweep my feet

And I slid down the entire flight of stairs.

Like, fell and I busted up my leg really bad. [ inhales sharply ]

I'm supposed to protect and I can't protect

Because I can't grab this [bleep] and choke its ass out.

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Sometimes I get pissed off and I talk to them

And I tell them that I'm tired of their [bleep].

Get the [bleep] out of my house.

Leave us alone.

You know, you're picking on my kids

Why don't you come and pick on me?

The threat I'm worried about right now is with him.

He said that us being here was the last straw.

He said that --

He goes, "that's it. I'm gonna burn the place down."

I do think he is capable of doing it.

[ sniffles ]

[ sniffles ]

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So nicole, bethany, the two of you have obviously

Been through hell here, and nobody can really blame you

For wanting to pack up and leave.

So now for the big question, is there anything you can do

To stop the violent activity here?

I saw that you could protect your kids, repair your health,

And move your beautiful family on

To another place where you could start over again.

For that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to amy.

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Because of the location the house is in,

It's like you live in the town of the dead.

It's inundated with really bad negative energy.

Oh.

I personally would never

Live here, as a sensitive.

- I still want to leave. - Okay.

I knew I wanted to leave before

And I want to leave even more now.

So even if you were to move tomorrow,

There are still some things you would have to do

To protect yourself.

The first thing that would be done

Is to remove the woman from you.

So I can have my team come in,

And they would have to slowly pull her out of you.

This could take some time

Because she's become

So intertwined with you,

And it could also be somewhat physically painful.

But once they're done and they get her out,

They're gonna move her on.

- Okay. - Once all of that is done,

You will need to learn about your abilities.

My recommendation for you is that you need to shut down

For a few years, because you need to recover.

Oh, my gosh. You need to let your body heal.

So if you have this woman removed, and move out of here.

No more nightmares. No more physical attacks.

Sounds like you're gonna feel better.

- Right? - Right.

Maybe they'll be able to get

A good night's sleep here and there?

- Right. - That would make me so happy,

For my kids to just have a normal life,

Because they've been robbed.

What are you gonna do?

I'm gonna do what amy said,

And I will have to pray for the next person

That buys my home, that's all I can do.

So bethany, you ready to help mom take care of business?

Yes, asap.

Soon as I can. Got to get this done.

Mm-hmm.

There's light at the end of the tunnel.

There is some hope.

I'm very grateful for that.

Thank you.

Amy: I really hope nicole follows my advice

And removes the dead woman inside her body.

If she does that, shuts down her abilities,

And moves her family as far away as possible,

They can find peace somewhere new.

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Hello, "dead files."

This is nicole and bethany.

First, I want to thank amy and steve for coming out.

Amy's crew, that came out to help us,

They removed all the entities that amy said to move.

Things have gotten better, but we still have activity.

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[ owl hooting ]

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