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Amy: Something very bad happened here.

She's talking about killing people.

I'm trying to protect my kids through all of this.

Whatever it is that's here, I think it could kill one of us.

I know that someone is gonna die.

Our fight is not with flesh and blood,

But with the powers of this dark world.

They would like to drive you insane.

Amy: This is bad.

I'm hearing "the devil's triangle.'

My name is amy allan.

I see dead people.

I think he might have been a stalker.

I speak to dead people, and they speak to me.

He will kill you. He has killed people.

But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.

They're being possessed.

I rely on my partner.

I'm steve di schiavi.

I'm a retired new york city homicide detective.

How many people have died here over the years?

And I know every person, every house has secrets.

It's my job to reveal them.

But steve and I never speak...

We never communicate during an investigation.

...Until the very end.

This sketch is like a nightmare.

When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay.

I never thought that the biggest problem was me.

Or time to get out.

He could more than likely kill you.

So, I'm back out here in toledo, ohio.

I had gotten a call from a mom named jennifer.

Now, 2 years ago, she moved her family

To what she thought would be their dream home.

Instead, they've been grabbed, scratched, smacked,

And basically terrorized.

The activity it tearing the family apart,

And jennifer says we're her last hope.

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Something very, very bad happened here.

Something attracts death here.

I don't feel good. I feel scared.

I feel panic.

Steve: So, jennifer, I'm glad I'm here,

Because when we spoke on the phone,

It sounded like things were out of control here.

What's going on?

Well, we're having some pretty crazy paranormal experiences

That are really terrorizing my family.

So, I remember you told me on the phone

You guys are here about 2 years.

Is that right? Yes.

We actually bought this house sight unseen.

We fell in love with it.

No judgment here, but why the hell would you

Buy something sight unseen?

It was an overwhelming, compelling feeling of,

"you have to have this house."

But it's not the happy home that we hoped it would be.

So, do you have any information about the house

That might help my investigation?

We were told that the house was built for the first

Toledo female police officer.

We were told that she died in the home.

So, who exactly lives in the house?

I have a picture, here, for you.

This is my mother-in-law, connie...

Okay. ...And my son, kaleb.

He's 13. Right.

And then, myself, and my husband, dana,

And then, my oldest son, avery.

He's 17.

Alright. Now, is everybody experiencing stuff?

Everybody. We hear voices.

Things are constantly moving on their own.

You'll see shadow figures, and also, being physically attacked.

What kind of physical attacks?

Being punched, being pulled down or pushed on the stairs,

Being held down.

I am constantly terrified for kaleb and avery,

With the way that they're being affected

Both physically and mentally.

I'm more than terrified

That something's gonna happen to them that's irreversible.

You know, as a mom, that's got to be tough on you.

It is extremely tough.

I don't know whether to cry out of frustration, or get angry,

Because I'm trying to protect my kids through all of this,

But I have to stay strong for them.

Who's taking care of you?

Nobody.

I feel like I'm constantly stressed out.

I feel the worst guilt.

I feel like I have basically ruined my kids' childhood.

Well, hopefully we can change all that.

I hope so.

Amy: I'm seeing this guy.

He's young, probably in his 20s.

He seems more recent.

He's leaning over a person while they're awake in bed.

When they're seeing him in the bedrooms, there's a black mist.

They're awake.

At times, they're hearing something so close to them,

Breathing on them, and whispering in their ear.

It's a feeling, a constant feeling of darkness

And oppression.

Obviously, they're feeling watched all the time.

I got two living people are the most affected,

And it seems like it's two females.

Okay, jennifer, so, what's going on in this area?

When I'm in this part of the house, I feel watched.

Describe the feeling to me.

Kind of feels like the energy of an angry male

Just watching you very intensely.

It makes you want to leave the room,

Because it's so negative.

Are you feeling it now?

Yeah, I do.

Anything else?

There's actually a black mist

That likes to hang out on this first level.

Sometimes, it has the shape of a man.

Sometimes, it's like if you lit a candle, and you blew it out,

And it's just that kind of smoky, wispy mist.

But it's definitely black.

Okay.

This young guy, he watches.

So, he's watching everything.

He's watching everybody.

One of the ways that he does this

Is from the mirrors, in particular.

The living, I believe, have seen this.

They literally see a person is right there in --

Like, a person's face.

So, they're seeing that out of the corner of their eyes.

Once they get up the nerve to face it, again, gone.

Man: Do you have any idea why he's doing this?

He wants the living to leave.

Steve: Alright. So, what's going on in here?

Many times, we've been laying in bed.

I'll look over, and the door will open on its own.

The door coming into the bedroom?

Yes. Alright.

So, do you keep this locked at night, or closed?

We do.

Closes pretty good.

Mm-hmm.

Alright. So, the first thing in my head is,

Are the kids playing around with you?

Right. So, I'd gotten out of bed to go check,

And the kids are sound asleep in their beds.

Amy: There's something bad, man.

There's something **** bad here.

It's a dead little boy.

This one kid, in particular, can manipulate his surroundings --

Move things, open and close doors, move objects,

**** like that.

The one smiled, and it just had really sharp, long teeth.

He's evil.

I don't know if he would ever really kill anybody,

But it's a possibility.

He would be more than capable.

So, jennifer, with all this stuff going on,

How the hell are you getting any sleep at night?

I don't sleep very well at night.

When I do sleep, it's awful nightmares.

Describe the night terrors for me.

It always involves my kids, or my husband,

And I'm watching something terrible happen to them.

And I'm trying to reach them,

And I just can't get them in time.

It's no wonder you can't get any sleep.

Exactly.

If amy turns around, and says, "you got to go,"

How are you gonna handle that?

It's not gonna be easy.

It's gonna be absolutely devastating for us to hear.

We want to fight to stay here.

We don't want to just up and leave the house

Without actually giving it a fair shot.

I'm seeing this woman.

The dead boy is torturing her.

This person has no rest -- an onslaught of nightmares.

Man: Do you know why they're targeting this person?

They were just born bad.

They were born evil.

I'm pretty sure that they would like her to kill herself.

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Now, as far as experiences, have you had any?

Yes. I was in this room...

Okay.

...And I thought I heard a woman or a child crying.

Okay. Was there any televisions

On in the house, anything like that?

No tvs on in the house. Nobody was home.

Alright. Anything else?

Numerous nights, I'm lying in my bed, still awake,

And I feel something climb up on the bed,

And then, it feels like someone is walking alongside my body.

How often is that happening?

Several nights in a week.

That's very strange.

I have tried switching beds and bedrooms,

To the living room couch.

It followed you?

Yeah. That ghosty followed me all over the damn house.

You got some pretty scary stuff going on.

Yeah. It's unnerving.

And I'm especially worried about my grandchildren.

Our fight is not with flesh and blood,

But with the powers and principles of this dark world.

Amy: There's a hateful, hateful, hateful woman,

And people see her.

She's old.

Oh, she likes somebody in here, though.

Man: And why do you say that?

She done crawled up in the bed with them.

I think that they feel the pressure.

Like, she's getting...

She gets in, and she's just like a little kid.

I want to say it's a female.

So, here, like -- so, I don't know if this is, like,

A mother figure to her.

Steve: Dana, I understand you're a former marine?

Dana: Yes, sir.

Semper fi. Oorah.

Are you frightened by what's going on here?

I am frightened by what it's been doing to my kids.

That's what scares me the most.

As a father, when they're going through something like this,

There's nothing I can do to help them.

It's -- I feel helpless.

Your wife was telling me that

You were having some experiences.

If you could do me a favor, and just tell me about some of them.

There was one morning, and I was laying on my side,

And I remember there was something physically holding me,

Keeping me from moving.

So, did it feel like there was hands on you,

Or did it feel like a pressure?

Pressure. I didn't feel hands,

Just something keeping me from rolling over.

Okay.

Anything else physical like that happen to you in the bed?

There was another instance where I was laying in bed, again,

Just waking up, and then, I suddenly feel the sheets

Get yanked right off my legs.

I look down, and the blankets

Are just yanked over to the side.

Nobody else is in the room.

I didn't kick them off.

I know you have dogs. Is there any chance...?

No. The dogs weren't in the room.

Anything else?

Just a couple years ago, I had a full cardiac workup,

Just a regular checkup --

And I had absolutely no health issues whatsoever.

Two years later, since moving into this house,

I now suffer from an enlarged heart and high blood pressure.

And the doctors can't seem to, you know, tell me why.

I don't know if that's paranormal, but it's kind of odd

For somebody your age to be dealing with that.

I think it has something to do with the house.

Whatever it is that's here, if it wants to,

I think it could kill one of us.

Amy: The old lady, she very much dislikes people,

Whether they're dead or alive.

She's talking about killing people.

Steve: So, kaleb, mom tells me you're having a pretty tough time here.

Tell me what's going on.

Well, there's a mirror at the end of this hallway,

And there was a tall shadow figure standing behind me

That I thought was my brother. And I turned around.

There was no one there.

Ooh. That would have gave me chills.

Yeah. So, I ran to my bedroom.

Mom told me about some physical attacks that you're enduring.

What's going on?

This back staircase back here,

I've actually been pushed, like, a pressure of hands on my back.

Okay. And you're sure you didn't trip?

Yeah. My head went back, like...

It sounds like the stuff you're going through is insane.

Oh, yes. It's definitely draining, exhausting.

So, avery, your mom and your brother told me

About some physical attacks that happened to them.

Anything like that happen to you?

Yes. I was scratched.

Where? I was scratched on the chest.

Did it break the skin at all?

A little bit. Alright.

Anything else?

Yes.

Fully black, fully opaque, except for his face.

He has a cheek-to-cheek smile with very sharp teeth,

Fully black eyes with little red dots.

Alright. What do you do when you see that?

I basically just close my eyes, and I tell him to go away.

Everybody is pretty riled by what's going on here,

But you don't seem to be too upset about it.

You think you're getting numb to this stuff?

Yes.

I'm just done with whatever is going on.

I just want it out and gone,

And I want it to leave my family alone.

Why do you think your family is being picked on in this house?

I feel that it, like, died living a certain lifestyle,

And the lifestyle we're living now,

I'm thinking that the spirit doesn't approve of it.

Okay.

The old lady, I think that she's extremely physical.

She's very controlling,

Definitely drains people's energy.

That old lady doesn't like this person at all.

"you're disgusting," like...

Hate -- lots of hate here.

Mostly doing, like, kind of passive-aggressive ****.

So, moving the bed, shaking the bed,

Pinching, pinching, pinching.

I think she might be biting, too,

Because there's so much hatred.

I'm surprised she's not doing anything more than that.

Man: Any particular reason?

She feels there's something fundamentally wrong

With this person -- disgust, disdain.

This is bad.

So, jennifer told me her house was once owned

By the first female cop in toledo.

I made some calls, and the story checks out.

I'm headed back to the property now

To meet the woman's daughter.

She told me the house has seen its share of death and tragedy.

Well, rose marie, I appreciate you meeting with me.

You mentioned on the phone your mother was quite the woman.

Yes. I think she was. Yes.

Okay. What can you tell me about her?

When she was 18, she married walter enright,

And she was very prominent in society.

Okay. When did she go from this glamorous-looking socialite

To the first female cop in toledo?

I believe it was 1923.

So, how long was she on the police department?

Do you know? Yeah. I think 4 years.

So, what made her leave?

She felt that the department was too corrupt.

Okay.

Now, I understand your mother bought this house in 1944.

How old were you then? 8 years old.

Oh, okay.

So, rose marie, you mentioned on the phone

There were some deaths associated with your family

In the house, here.

Yes. The first death was my grandfather.

This is my grandfather's death certificate.

He was 72.

He died from a heart attack in the basement.

Then, of course, my mother passed away here.

How old was your mom when she passed?

991/2.

Wow. She almost made it to 100.

Yes.

This is a week before she passed.

She's 99 in this photo?

Yes. You're kidding me.

Well, god bless her, 991/2.

Yeah. Right.

You mentioned that there was a tragedy in the house.

What was that all about?

I rented the third floor to a young man,

And I didn't know too much about him.

Apparently, he was into heroin, and he overdosed.

Do you remember when that matter happened?

Not exactly, but I think it was in the '80s.

Quite a few deaths here.

Yeah, there were -- and some of them are still here.

Amy: I'm seeing the young dead guy again.

Not necessarily getting an owner's feeling,

But more of, like, he lived here at some point.

He is very thin, kind of looks sickly.

He's very pale, very sunken eyes.

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He wants to be alone.

And he said, "they are in my space."

And I'm getting something about drugs.

I think he od'd.

I don't know if it was accidental or on purpose.

Maybe heroin, I'm thinking?

I'm not sure.

I'd put him in maybe the '70s, '80s.

He said that he just went to sleep.

So, before I got to town, I called my old buddy,

Lou hebert, who's a local law guy,

And had him do some digging for me.

So, he just called back, and says he's got something

I'm definitely gonna want to know about.

Turns out, a prominent woman

Bought jennifer's house in the early 1900s,

And lou says everyone close to this matriarch

Started dropping dead.

Who was this family?

When did they get to my client's property?

Lou: Well, this was the gutchess family,

And leda was the matriarch of the family.

She bought that house in 1919.

She was single, so it was kind of unusual at that time.

Here is a picture of her, here.

So, this is 1919.

She's a single woman.

How is she able to afford a house

In that neighborhood back then?

Well, we know that she was very rich.

Her father was a doctor, but he was also an inventor,

And he invented an aerial spray device for medicine.

And they became very wealthy as a result of that.

Alright. So, you said she was single

When she moved into the house,

But had she ever been married before then?

Yes. She was.

She married a fellow by the name of frank gutchess.

There's his photo, there.

Okay. So, what happened to this guy?

Well, he died in 1911.

He was only 46 years old.

What'd he die of?

Well, he died of arthritis and inflamed kidneys.

Alright. So, this woman had people croaking on her

Before she even got to my client's house.

Oh, yeah.

Her brother died just a short time

After her husband had died.

Then, her father dies a few years after that.

A couple of years later is when she bought the house.

Okay, so, she loses three people before she even gets there.

Absolutely. Yeah.

This is a pretty big house.

I mean, it's 5,000 square feet.

Was she living there alone?

No. She didn't live there alone.

She had an extended family with her.

First, her mother was living there with her.

And then, she also had a son, alan, who was living there,

And alan had a daughter named betty,

Who was an infant at the time.

Alright. So, lou, obviously leda had a lot of deaths around her

Before she even got to my client's house.

Did it continue after she got there?

Yeah. It did. And the first one was her own daughter, helen.

On June 10th of 1921, she was cleaning the house

With some sort of kerosene, or gasoline, or something.

It ignited.

Oh, geez. It exploded.

She died in front of her 3- year-old child

At the age of 26.

As you can see here, I've got the death certificate

And the photo.

So, she burns to death. Yeah.

Man, this family can't get away from it, huh?

No. Thomas, the brother,

Dies a few years later at the age of 50 from cancer.

Okay.

Then, a few years after that, leda's mother dies.

She dies from a heart attack, and she dies in the house.

There's a picture of her --

Rather stern-looking woman, there --

And her death certificate, as well.

So, six of her family members drop dead.

Yeah -- in a very, very short period of time.

Whatever happens to her?

She ends up selling the house in 1944.

And then, in 1955, she dies of a stroke.

She was 84.

So, when you said she had a lot of death

Around her, you weren't kidding.

Yeah.

Amy: The old dead lady is up here.

She's attached to this house.

She owned it from, like, 1910 to 1940, or something.

Man: Can you describe her?

At least in her 80s.

I don't know if she actually killed people,

Or she just wanted to,

But she had a hand in getting rid of people,

One way or the other, pushing them away and killing them.

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Steve: So far, I've got a family living in fear in a house

Where a hell of a lot of people have died,

But I want to see if there's anything else.

Searching through old records,

I find a pair of serial-killing brothers

Who terrorized toledo in the early '80s.

Turns out, one of their victims was murdered

Close to jennifer and dana's house.

So, I'm headed to meet a retired toledo detective

Who remembers the case well.

She says these killers were bloodthirsty monsters,

And their crimes still haunt

Jennifer's neighborhood to this day.

Well, detective, I appreciate you helping me out

With this case.

What can you tell me about these guys?

Well, they're two brothers, anthony and nathaniel cook,

Who terrorized toledo for a year and a half in the early '80s.

You know, you and I both know serial killers

Usually kill in the same manner, but sometimes, they vary.

What about these guys?

They did a little bit of everything.

Sometimes, they bludgeoned their victims

With a baseball bat. Okay.

Sometimes, they stabbed the victims,

And sometimes, they shot them execution-style.

Alright, so, their killing method varied.

What about their victims?

Their victims were usually consistent --

Young white females that were seen either alone

Or in the company of, maybe, a boyfriend.

So, you mentioned on the phone this whole thing that happened

With these guys still haunts my client's neighborhood.

What'd you mean by that?

Because your client actually lives two and a half blocks

From the location of the last murder they committed together.

Okay. So, when did that happen?

February 21st of 1981.

Okay. So, what were the circumstances?

Dawn rene backes, 12-year-old girl --

They abducted her, drug her inside an old abandoned theater.

They tortured her.

They raped her.

And then, they crushed her skull with a cinder block.

These guys are real animals.

Animals. Evil.

So, I know these two scumbags get caught.

What happened?

Seven months later, anthony cook, acting alone,

Assaulted a couple

That were just sitting in their van talking.

The girlfriend was able to flee

While her boyfriend is wrestling with anthony.

They survived the attack,

And were now able to go into court as witnesses.

So, they identify anthony.

And they identified anthony, yes.

Alright. So, how did they link him and his brother

To the other murders?

They were able to match the brothers' dna

With three of the other murders.

Okay, so, now, what happens?

Well, the brothers entered a plea agreement,

And they ended up admitting to eight slayings.

Anthony cook was convicted, and sentenced to life in prison.

Surprisingly, nathaniel,

He got 20 years through a plea agreement,

And he was released in 2018.

He's out?

He is out.

Holy ****.

There's no justice right there.

None.

Amy: Something happened here.

I'm hearing a lot of screaming.

Mainly, I'm hearing women screaming,

Lots of panic and chaos happening.

I know that someone has died, or is gonna die.

I think it's her -- the one who's screaming.

She looks young, maybe late teens or early 20s.

But there's all this people around, and wigging out.

And there's people -- like, men -- trying to handle it.

I can't understand them, but she just won't stop screaming

About whatever the **** is happening.

And she's saying, "oh, god, help me.

Help me get out of here," like, "this can't be happening.

Oh, my god. Oh, my god."

I saw several disturbing things on my walk,

But the hateful old lady and little boy

Terrorizing a living person has me the most concerned.

This haggard little old woman has a hunched back --

Very thin, bony.

And then, there's this little boy.

His eyes were really large and dark.

He had, like, a grin,

And he had all of these really long, sharp teeth.

They're very, very bad, and very scary.

Oh, she had crazy eyebrows, too.

Amy, is this what you saw?

Yes. That's what I saw.

Steve: Now that amy and I have completed our investigations,

We're ready to reveal our findings to each other,

And our clients, for the first time.

So, amy, I'd like you to meet jennifer and her husband, dana.

Now, 2 years ago, they bought this place sight unseen.

And when they did, they moved in with dana's mother, connie,

And their two sons -- kaleb, who's 13, avery, who's 17.

Since then, the whole family has been terrorized,

And these two are convinced that no one is safe in this house.

So, unless amy has some questions for you,

She'll tell us about her walk.

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The first active dead person that I came into contact with

Was a male, overall kind of a mess.

He was just going off about how he wants to be left alone.

He hates the fact that living people are here.

Some of the things that he does is, he is constantly watching.

And he often is watching from the mirrors.

I spoke to kaleb.

He saw a shadow behind him in an upstairs mirror.

Okay. So, it freaked him out.

Yeah, that's typical.

He does travel as a black mist,

But, like, you know it's a person.

At times, you can see him, like, kind of out

Of the corner of your eye.

A lot of times, on the main level of the house,

You will see a mist, like somebody just blew out a candle.

You can see it.

Sometimes, you can see through it, and it's moving.

Did you get anything on this guy when he was around?

Younger, definitely. I'd put him in his 20s.

I'd put him in the 1980s.

I got that he lived here at some point,

But I don't think he was an owner.

I was kind of seeing him, like, looking strung out.

I was thinking along the lines of heroin.

I do believe that he od'd,

And he said that he just went to sleep, and never woke up.

I'm pretty sure I know who she's talking about.

So, I spoke to a woman whose family owned this house

For over 60 years.

Now, she told me about a few deaths in the house,

But the one you just mentioned is right on the money.

In 1980s, she rented out the attic to a young male.

But she hadn't seen him around in a couple days.

When they went upstairs to look,

He was in his room, dead, from a heroin overdose.

Yeah.

So, what else did you encounter?

The next dead person that I encountered was a little boy.

He, like, smiled, and he had just, like, knives for teeth.

And I was like, "oh, ****."

There's a few ways that the living here,

I think, would experience this kid.

He can manipulate his surroundings

By opening and closing doors.

We were laying in bed together, just watching tv,

And the door just flung open.

Got out and looked, both kids were asleep in their bed.

Mother-in-law was asleep in her bed.

Interesting.

The thing that really concerned me about him

Is that I did see him getting physical

With the living -- biting, punching, pushing.

I don't know if he would ever really kill anybody,

But it's a possibility.

He would be more than capable.

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You okay, jen? You need a break?

- I'm okay. - You sure?

Yeah.

Tell amy about what's going on

With avery and kaleb, and the experiences with the scratches.

They have unexplained scratches

On different parts of their body.

They have no idea how they got these scratches on them.

Now, kaleb told me about this, but you tell amy about him

On the staircase, and tripping, and all that.

Kaleb felt he was shoved down the stairs,

And got injured pretty good.

You mentioned something about him smiling with sharp teeth.

Now, when I spoke to avery,

He says he sees a creature he calls the smiley man.

Oh, yeah.

It's a dark, shadowy thing

With long, sharp teeth and red eyes.

That's how he sees it.

Okay. Interesting.

Yeah.

So, what else you got?

The person I'm the most concerned about is this female.

She is angry and hateful.

She talked a lot about killing people.

I got that she was very judgmental in life,

And she's the same way in death.

Saw her upstairs in the middle bedroom,

And she was excessively picking on that person

Because she felt like there's something

Fundamentally wrong with them.

The middle bedroom, I'm assuming she means avery's bedroom.

Avery did share with me that, when I talked to him,

He felt whatever ghosts were here

Didn't approve of the way you guys or he lived his life.

Well, I'll go ahead and throw it out there.

Our oldest son, avery, is gay.

Many people would disapprove.

Would avery feel those judgments from her?

He'd feel her hate.

He says that all the time.

She's exacerbating... Exactly.

...Like, what emotions he's going through.

Steve: Now, the woman you're talking about,

Did you get anything else on her,

Like who she might have been in life?

I got that she was a housewife.

I believe she lived here sometime between 1910 and 1940.

I got that she was fairly old when she died,

I think in her 80s.

And I think she died suddenly, and possibly from a fall.

That does make me think of someone from my research.

Her name was leda gutchess. She was a rich, old widow.

Like the woman you saw, leda was a housewife.

I have no records of her killing anybody,

But she did have a lot of death in her life.

Before she moved into this house, her husband,

Brother and father all died within a few years.

But the deaths, for leda, didn't stop there.

Leda, her mother, her son all moved in here together in 1919.

1921, her daughter, helen, she was cleaning with kerosene,

Or something like that, and she caught on fire.

- Oh. - [ gasps ] - well, that...

Okay.

This is her, and her death certificate.

She burned to death in front of her 3-year-old kid.

Oh.

Then, in 1928, her brother, thomas, died of cancer

When he was only 50 years old.

Finally, in 1935, her mother lydia died

In this house of a sudden heart attack.

Now, she was 85 years old.

I got her death certificate and photo, as well.

So, now that's seven deaths in a 24-year period,

Which is a lot for immediate family members.

Okay.

Now, leda winded up selling the house in 1944,

But she stayed in the area.

She ended up dying from a sudden stroke

When she was 84 years old.

I managed to track down a photo of her, as well.

That's leda, right here.

Is it possible this is who you saw?

No.

This is the one I saw.

Okay. So, the woman you saw, you think,

Is leda's mom, lydia, not leda.

Lydia, yes. Okay.

So, you said she's the one

That's got you the most concerned.

Why? Yeah.

So, she's the most active out of everyone,

And the most dangerous.

She can be very physical with the living.

She showed me her shoving the bed,

Like, hitting it with her legs,

Pinching and flicking that person.

Tell her about how you got held down in bed.

There was one morning, I literally just got frozen.

I could not move at all. And it just --

There was something holding me down in bed

That wouldn't let me roll over.

Is it possible that was her?

Oh, yeah, sure.

No doubt in my mind.

Now, could she do anything else?

I went to the room now at the opposite end.

Is that your master bedroom?

Yes.

So, I am in there, and the woman and the dead boy

Team up with each other in that room.

Together, the two of them have created

An unbearably chaotic paranormal environment,

And they are gearing it towards you.

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Nightmare images, noises --

I was, like, stunned mute, like...

It's just chaos.

I did have a sketch done of the two of them

Harassing the person in that bedroom.

??

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This sketch is like a nightmare.

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Jennifer: That's my life.

That's my life in that bedroom.

It's a nightmare in there.

Jennifer, tell amy about your nightmares.

I mean, I literally, physically wake up

Either screaming or crying.

They're so detailed.

It's like I just lived that moment, for real.

What's this woman and this kid want with jennifer?

Both of these people are inherently evil.

They were born with no soul.

They both believe the living woman here is like them.

Talking about jennifer?

That's what they said.

They see a kinship with her,

And they are reaching out to turn her bad like they are.

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But I don't want to be bad like they are.

I believe they would like nothing more

Than to drive you insane,

And make you guys kill yourselves.

But it was indicated to me that, if that's not successful,

That they'll work on doing a direct killing.

Oh, my god.

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Jennifer, dana, now we know what's causing the hell

That you and your family have been going through,

But we still haven't answered your big question.

Is there anything you can do to fix this,

Or are you better off just packing up

And getting the hell out of here?

For that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to amy.

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So, what I would like you to do is to reach out

To a couple of local pagans.

I haven't heard you mention pagans in a long time.

Why so much for this case?

They're very used to, and quite comfortable

Dealing with very dark things.

Day 1, they need to move on the guy who died from the overdose.

He just needs to be made aware of a few things,

And he'll more or less go fairly easily.

Day 2, they need to remove the old woman and the boy.

So, you may, while they're doing this, want to sleep elsewhere,

Because they may become extremely active,

And things could get chaotic -- more so than it's been.

Once all of this is done,

You guys will be feeling so much better.

It'll feel like a completely different house.

It'll feel very empty, very quiet, and very peaceful.

Well, I'm excited for that, because we haven't felt that

Since we moved in.

Now, when you get this all done, no more nightmares,

No more shadow figures,

No more getting pushed down the stairs.

And the kids will finally get some peace.

Yeah, it's a lot to take in, but...

Definitely very hopeful.

And this is advice that you guys are gonna take, I assume.

Absolutely. Yeah.

I want you to promise me, though, because I love you guys,

And I don't want to see anything bad happen.

- Absolutely. - Without a doubt.

I'm happy to have my bedroom back -- get it back.

I'm ready to get started tomorrow.

That old **** has to go.

This is our house now. So, she had her time,

And time to send her packing.

I can't thank you enough for coming out here,

And doing this for us.

Amy: Jennifer and dana's family has been through hell,

But I believe, if they work with a couple of local pagans,

They'll be able to free their home of evil,

And find the peace they deserve.

Hi, guys. Just wanted to give you an update

On what's been going on in our home since you've been out.

We have had the team of pagan ladies come out,

And perform different ceremonies, rituals on our home.

It's been very peaceful.

Everyone is happy. Moods are better.

We're getting sleep.

We can't thank you guys enough.

You have literally given us our home back.

So, thank you. Keep up the great work.

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