Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated:
1
00:00:10,478 --> 00:00:13,278
Amy: Something very bad
happened here.
2
00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,981
She's talking about
killing people.
3
00:00:15,983 --> 00:00:18,717
I'm trying to protect my kids
through all of this.
4
00:00:18,719 --> 00:00:21,987
Whatever it is that's here,
I think it could kill one of us.
5
00:00:21,989 --> 00:00:26,458
I know that someone
is gonna die.
6
00:00:26,460 --> 00:00:28,727
Our fight is not with
flesh and blood,
7
00:00:28,729 --> 00:00:32,097
But with the powers
of this dark world.
8
00:00:32,099 --> 00:00:34,767
They would like
to drive you insane.
9
00:00:37,338 --> 00:00:39,805
Amy:
This is bad.
10
00:00:39,807 --> 00:00:42,508
I'm hearing
"the devil's triangle.'
11
00:00:42,510 --> 00:00:44,977
My name is amy allan.
12
00:00:44,979 --> 00:00:46,345
I see dead people.
13
00:00:46,347 --> 00:00:48,847
I think he might have been
a stalker.
14
00:00:48,849 --> 00:00:52,918
I speak to dead people,
and they speak to me.
15
00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,987
He will kill you.
He has killed people.
16
00:00:54,989 --> 00:00:58,457
But there's only one way to know
if my findings are real.
17
00:00:58,459 --> 00:01:00,325
They're being possessed.
18
00:01:00,327 --> 00:01:01,960
I rely on my partner.
19
00:01:01,962 --> 00:01:03,328
I'm steve di schiavi.
20
00:01:03,330 --> 00:01:05,364
I'm a retired new york city
homicide detective.
21
00:01:05,366 --> 00:01:07,166
How many people have died here
over the years?
22
00:01:07,168 --> 00:01:10,903
And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
23
00:01:10,905 --> 00:01:12,404
It's my job
to reveal them.
24
00:01:12,406 --> 00:01:14,339
But steve and I
never speak...
25
00:01:14,341 --> 00:01:16,408
We never communicate
during an investigation.
26
00:01:16,410 --> 00:01:17,810
...Until the very end.
27
00:01:17,812 --> 00:01:19,778
This sketch is like
a nightmare.
28
00:01:19,780 --> 00:01:21,847
When we uncover if it's safe
for you to stay.
29
00:01:21,849 --> 00:01:24,383
I never thought that
the biggest problem was me.
30
00:01:24,385 --> 00:01:26,018
Or time to get out.
31
00:01:26,020 --> 00:01:28,821
He could more than likely
kill you.
32
00:01:43,337 --> 00:01:45,737
So, I'm back out here
in toledo, ohio.
33
00:01:45,739 --> 00:01:47,873
I had gotten a call
from a mom named jennifer.
34
00:01:47,875 --> 00:01:49,875
Now, 2 years ago,
she moved her family
35
00:01:49,877 --> 00:01:52,544
To what she thought
would be their dream home.
36
00:01:52,546 --> 00:01:55,614
Instead, they've been grabbed,
scratched, smacked,
37
00:01:55,616 --> 00:01:57,216
And basically terrorized.
38
00:01:57,218 --> 00:01:59,485
The activity it tearing
the family apart,
39
00:01:59,487 --> 00:02:01,487
And jennifer says
we're her last hope.
40
00:02:04,558 --> 00:02:11,997
??
41
00:02:11,999 --> 00:02:16,835
Something very,
very bad happened here.
42
00:02:16,837 --> 00:02:19,872
Something attracts
death here.
43
00:02:22,476 --> 00:02:24,576
I don't feel good.
I feel scared.
44
00:02:24,578 --> 00:02:25,777
I feel panic.
45
00:02:35,656 --> 00:02:36,755
Steve: So, jennifer,
I'm glad I'm here,
46
00:02:36,757 --> 00:02:38,524
Because when we spoke
on the phone,
47
00:02:38,526 --> 00:02:40,425
It sounded like things
were out of control here.
48
00:02:40,427 --> 00:02:41,960
What's going on?
49
00:02:41,962 --> 00:02:44,730
Well, we're having some pretty
crazy paranormal experiences
50
00:02:44,732 --> 00:02:47,799
That are really
terrorizing my family.
51
00:02:47,801 --> 00:02:48,800
So, I remember you told me
on the phone
52
00:02:48,802 --> 00:02:49,835
You guys are here
about 2 years.
53
00:02:49,837 --> 00:02:51,236
Is that right?
Yes.
54
00:02:51,238 --> 00:02:53,338
We actually bought this house
sight unseen.
55
00:02:53,340 --> 00:02:54,606
We fell in love with it.
56
00:02:54,608 --> 00:02:56,108
No judgment here,
but why the hell would you
57
00:02:56,110 --> 00:02:57,843
Buy something
sight unseen?
58
00:02:57,845 --> 00:03:02,214
It was an overwhelming,
compelling feeling of,
59
00:03:02,216 --> 00:03:03,916
"you have to have
this house."
60
00:03:03,918 --> 00:03:08,053
But it's not the happy home
that we hoped it would be.
61
00:03:08,055 --> 00:03:10,289
So, do you have any information
about the house
62
00:03:10,291 --> 00:03:12,324
That might help
my investigation?
63
00:03:12,326 --> 00:03:14,760
We were told that the house
was built for the first
64
00:03:14,762 --> 00:03:17,162
Toledo female
police officer.
65
00:03:17,164 --> 00:03:20,065
We were told that
she died in the home.
66
00:03:20,067 --> 00:03:22,834
So, who exactly lives
in the house?
67
00:03:22,836 --> 00:03:25,404
I have a picture,
here, for you.
68
00:03:25,406 --> 00:03:27,072
This is my mother-in-law,
connie...
69
00:03:27,074 --> 00:03:28,507
Okay.
...And my son, kaleb.
70
00:03:28,509 --> 00:03:29,841
He's 13.
Right.
71
00:03:29,843 --> 00:03:32,344
And then, myself,
and my husband, dana,
72
00:03:32,346 --> 00:03:33,712
And then, my oldest son,
avery.
73
00:03:33,714 --> 00:03:34,947
He's 17.
74
00:03:34,949 --> 00:03:37,282
Alright. Now, is everybody
experiencing stuff?
75
00:03:37,284 --> 00:03:39,618
Everybody.
We hear voices.
76
00:03:39,620 --> 00:03:42,321
Things are constantly
moving on their own.
77
00:03:42,323 --> 00:03:46,959
You'll see shadow figures, and
also, being physically attacked.
78
00:03:46,961 --> 00:03:48,327
What kind of
physical attacks?
79
00:03:48,329 --> 00:03:53,332
Being punched, being pulled down
or pushed on the stairs,
80
00:03:53,334 --> 00:03:54,566
Being held down.
81
00:03:54,568 --> 00:03:59,905
I am constantly terrified
for kaleb and avery,
82
00:03:59,907 --> 00:04:02,641
With the way that
they're being affected
83
00:04:02,643 --> 00:04:04,209
Both physically
and mentally.
84
00:04:04,211 --> 00:04:05,811
I'm more than terrified
85
00:04:05,813 --> 00:04:09,481
That something's gonna happen
to them that's irreversible.
86
00:04:09,483 --> 00:04:11,817
You know, as a mom,
that's got to be tough on you.
87
00:04:11,819 --> 00:04:13,285
It is extremely tough.
88
00:04:13,287 --> 00:04:18,056
I don't know whether to cry out
of frustration, or get angry,
89
00:04:18,058 --> 00:04:21,293
Because I'm trying to protect
my kids through all of this,
90
00:04:21,295 --> 00:04:23,395
But I have to stay
strong for them.
91
00:04:25,933 --> 00:04:27,532
Who's taking care of you?
92
00:04:27,534 --> 00:04:30,302
Nobody.
93
00:04:30,304 --> 00:04:32,404
I feel like I'm
constantly stressed out.
94
00:04:32,406 --> 00:04:34,673
I feel the worst guilt.
95
00:04:34,675 --> 00:04:39,278
I feel like I have basically
ruined my kids' childhood.
96
00:04:39,280 --> 00:04:41,480
Well, hopefully
we can change all that.
97
00:04:41,482 --> 00:04:42,614
I hope so.
98
00:04:46,453 --> 00:04:48,520
Amy: I'm seeing this guy.
99
00:04:48,522 --> 00:04:50,689
He's young,
probably in his 20s.
100
00:04:50,691 --> 00:04:52,758
He seems more recent.
101
00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,895
He's leaning over a person
while they're awake in bed.
102
00:04:56,897 --> 00:04:59,131
When they're seeing him in the
bedrooms, there's a black mist.
103
00:04:59,133 --> 00:05:00,799
They're awake.
104
00:05:00,801 --> 00:05:03,635
At times, they're hearing
something so close to them,
105
00:05:03,637 --> 00:05:06,772
Breathing on them,
and whispering in their ear.
106
00:05:06,774 --> 00:05:09,641
It's a feeling, a constant
feeling of darkness
107
00:05:09,643 --> 00:05:11,176
And oppression.
108
00:05:11,178 --> 00:05:13,945
Obviously, they're feeling
watched all the time.
109
00:05:13,947 --> 00:05:16,915
I got two living people
are the most affected,
110
00:05:16,917 --> 00:05:19,551
And it seems like
it's two females.
111
00:05:24,491 --> 00:05:26,591
Okay, jennifer, so,
what's going on in this area?
112
00:05:26,593 --> 00:05:30,162
When I'm in this part of
the house, I feel watched.
113
00:05:30,164 --> 00:05:31,463
Describe the feeling
to me.
114
00:05:31,465 --> 00:05:35,200
Kind of feels like the energy
of an angry male
115
00:05:35,202 --> 00:05:37,869
Just watching you
very intensely.
116
00:05:37,871 --> 00:05:39,538
It makes you want
to leave the room,
117
00:05:39,540 --> 00:05:42,107
Because it's
so negative.
118
00:05:42,109 --> 00:05:44,176
Are you
feeling it now?
119
00:05:44,178 --> 00:05:45,177
Yeah, I do.
120
00:05:45,179 --> 00:05:46,178
Anything else?
121
00:05:46,180 --> 00:05:47,512
There's actually
a black mist
122
00:05:47,514 --> 00:05:50,048
That likes to hang out
on this first level.
123
00:05:50,050 --> 00:05:52,317
Sometimes, it has
the shape of a man.
124
00:05:52,319 --> 00:05:55,487
Sometimes, it's like if you lit
a candle, and you blew it out,
125
00:05:55,489 --> 00:05:58,857
And it's just that kind of
smoky, wispy mist.
126
00:05:58,859 --> 00:06:00,792
But it's
definitely black.
127
00:06:00,794 --> 00:06:02,694
Okay.
128
00:06:02,696 --> 00:06:05,330
This young guy,
he watches.
129
00:06:05,332 --> 00:06:06,865
So, he's watching
everything.
130
00:06:06,867 --> 00:06:08,834
He's watching everybody.
131
00:06:08,836 --> 00:06:10,602
One of the ways
that he does this
132
00:06:10,604 --> 00:06:14,706
Is from the mirrors,
in particular.
133
00:06:14,708 --> 00:06:18,810
The living, I believe,
have seen this.
134
00:06:18,812 --> 00:06:23,181
They literally see a person
is right there in --
135
00:06:23,183 --> 00:06:24,850
Like, a person's face.
136
00:06:24,852 --> 00:06:27,552
So, they're seeing that out
of the corner of their eyes.
137
00:06:27,554 --> 00:06:31,757
Once they get up the nerve
to face it, again, gone.
138
00:06:31,759 --> 00:06:34,826
Man: Do you have any idea
why he's doing this?
139
00:06:34,828 --> 00:06:37,129
He wants the living
to leave.
140
00:06:44,204 --> 00:06:45,737
Steve: Alright.
So, what's going on in here?
141
00:06:45,739 --> 00:06:47,506
Many times,
we've been laying in bed.
142
00:06:47,508 --> 00:06:50,976
I'll look over, and the door
will open on its own.
143
00:06:50,978 --> 00:06:52,110
The door coming
into the bedroom?
144
00:06:52,112 --> 00:06:53,378
Yes.
Alright.
145
00:06:53,380 --> 00:06:55,147
So, do you keep this locked
at night, or closed?
146
00:06:55,149 --> 00:06:56,181
We do.
147
00:06:58,719 --> 00:06:59,751
Closes pretty good.
148
00:06:59,753 --> 00:07:00,919
Mm-hmm.
149
00:07:04,992 --> 00:07:06,925
Alright. So, the first thing
in my head is,
150
00:07:06,927 --> 00:07:08,326
Are the kids
playing around with you?
151
00:07:08,328 --> 00:07:10,262
Right. So, I'd gotten out of bed
to go check,
152
00:07:10,264 --> 00:07:12,798
And the kids are sound
asleep in their beds.
153
00:07:15,569 --> 00:07:17,135
Amy:
There's something bad, man.
154
00:07:17,137 --> 00:07:19,871
There's something
**** bad here.
155
00:07:19,873 --> 00:07:22,040
It's a dead little boy.
156
00:07:22,042 --> 00:07:26,778
This one kid, in particular, can
manipulate his surroundings --
157
00:07:26,780 --> 00:07:29,614
Move things, open and
close doors, move objects,
158
00:07:29,616 --> 00:07:31,216
**** like that.
159
00:07:31,218 --> 00:07:37,956
The one smiled, and it just had
really sharp, long teeth.
160
00:07:37,958 --> 00:07:39,391
He's evil.
161
00:07:39,393 --> 00:07:44,162
I don't know if he would ever
really kill anybody,
162
00:07:44,164 --> 00:07:46,598
But it's a possibility.
163
00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,400
He would be
more than capable.
164
00:07:50,671 --> 00:07:52,270
So, jennifer, with all
this stuff going on,
165
00:07:52,272 --> 00:07:54,072
How the hell are you
getting any sleep at night?
166
00:07:54,074 --> 00:07:56,141
I don't sleep very well
at night.
167
00:07:56,143 --> 00:07:58,877
When I do sleep,
it's awful nightmares.
168
00:07:58,879 --> 00:08:00,345
Describe the night terrors
for me.
169
00:08:00,347 --> 00:08:02,814
It always involves my kids,
or my husband,
170
00:08:02,816 --> 00:08:05,584
And I'm watching something
terrible happen to them.
171
00:08:05,586 --> 00:08:06,818
And I'm trying
to reach them,
172
00:08:06,820 --> 00:08:08,954
And I just can't
get them in time.
173
00:08:08,956 --> 00:08:10,489
It's no wonder you can't
get any sleep.
174
00:08:10,491 --> 00:08:11,690
Exactly.
175
00:08:11,692 --> 00:08:14,259
If amy turns around, and says,
"you got to go,"
176
00:08:14,261 --> 00:08:15,494
How are you gonna
handle that?
177
00:08:15,496 --> 00:08:16,995
It's not gonna be easy.
178
00:08:16,997 --> 00:08:19,397
It's gonna be absolutely
devastating for us to hear.
179
00:08:19,399 --> 00:08:21,566
We want to fight
to stay here.
180
00:08:21,568 --> 00:08:23,602
We don't want to just
up and leave the house
181
00:08:23,604 --> 00:08:25,971
Without actually giving it
a fair shot.
182
00:08:29,309 --> 00:08:32,644
I'm seeing this woman.
183
00:08:32,646 --> 00:08:34,646
The dead boy
is torturing her.
184
00:08:37,317 --> 00:08:42,521
This person has no rest --
an onslaught of nightmares.
185
00:08:42,523 --> 00:08:44,523
Man: Do you know why they're
targeting this person?
186
00:08:44,525 --> 00:08:46,791
They were just born bad.
187
00:08:46,793 --> 00:08:48,627
They were born evil.
188
00:08:48,629 --> 00:08:52,063
I'm pretty sure that they would
like her to kill herself.
189
00:09:08,048 --> 00:09:14,119
??
190
00:09:14,121 --> 00:09:20,225
??
191
00:09:20,227 --> 00:09:22,427
Now, as far as experiences,
have you had any?
192
00:09:22,429 --> 00:09:24,896
Yes.
I was in this room...
193
00:09:24,898 --> 00:09:26,064
Okay.
194
00:09:26,066 --> 00:09:31,570
...And I thought I heard
a woman or a child crying.
195
00:09:31,572 --> 00:09:32,837
Okay.
Was there any televisions
196
00:09:32,839 --> 00:09:33,905
On in the house,
anything like that?
197
00:09:33,907 --> 00:09:37,842
No tvs on in the house.
Nobody was home.
198
00:09:37,844 --> 00:09:39,210
Alright.
Anything else?
199
00:09:39,212 --> 00:09:44,983
Numerous nights, I'm lying
in my bed, still awake,
200
00:09:44,985 --> 00:09:49,054
And I feel something
climb up on the bed,
201
00:09:49,056 --> 00:09:54,593
And then, it feels like someone
is walking alongside my body.
202
00:09:54,595 --> 00:09:55,994
How often is
that happening?
203
00:09:55,996 --> 00:09:58,163
Several nights in a week.
204
00:09:58,165 --> 00:09:59,664
That's very strange.
205
00:09:59,666 --> 00:10:03,535
I have tried switching beds
and bedrooms,
206
00:10:03,537 --> 00:10:05,270
To the living room couch.
207
00:10:05,272 --> 00:10:06,504
It followed you?
208
00:10:06,506 --> 00:10:09,074
Yeah. That ghosty followed me
all over the damn house.
209
00:10:09,076 --> 00:10:11,109
You got some pretty scary
stuff going on.
210
00:10:11,111 --> 00:10:12,811
Yeah. It's unnerving.
211
00:10:12,813 --> 00:10:16,481
And I'm especially worried
about my grandchildren.
212
00:10:16,483 --> 00:10:18,984
Our fight is not with
flesh and blood,
213
00:10:18,986 --> 00:10:22,554
But with the powers and
principles of this dark world.
214
00:10:28,095 --> 00:10:31,696
Amy: There's a hateful,
hateful, hateful woman,
215
00:10:31,698 --> 00:10:33,331
And people see her.
216
00:10:33,333 --> 00:10:35,367
She's old.
217
00:10:35,369 --> 00:10:38,169
Oh, she likes somebody
in here, though.
218
00:10:38,171 --> 00:10:39,471
Man:
And why do you say that?
219
00:10:39,473 --> 00:10:43,642
She done crawled up
in the bed with them.
220
00:10:43,644 --> 00:10:46,578
I think that they feel
the pressure.
221
00:10:46,580 --> 00:10:48,380
Like, she's getting...
222
00:10:48,382 --> 00:10:51,449
She gets in, and she's
just like a little kid.
223
00:10:58,325 --> 00:11:00,558
I want to say
it's a female.
224
00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:03,561
So, here, like -- so,
I don't know if this is, like,
225
00:11:03,563 --> 00:11:05,363
A mother figure to her.
226
00:11:12,973 --> 00:11:14,539
Steve: Dana, I understand
you're a former marine?
227
00:11:14,541 --> 00:11:15,573
Dana: Yes, sir.
228
00:11:15,575 --> 00:11:17,609
Semper fi.
Oorah.
229
00:11:17,611 --> 00:11:19,244
Are you frightened
by what's going on here?
230
00:11:19,246 --> 00:11:22,313
I am frightened by what
it's been doing to my kids.
231
00:11:22,315 --> 00:11:23,782
That's what
scares me the most.
232
00:11:23,784 --> 00:11:26,484
As a father, when they're going
through something like this,
233
00:11:26,486 --> 00:11:27,786
There's nothing I can do
to help them.
234
00:11:27,788 --> 00:11:29,888
It's -- I feel helpless.
235
00:11:29,890 --> 00:11:31,156
Your wife was
telling me that
236
00:11:31,158 --> 00:11:32,590
You were having
some experiences.
237
00:11:32,592 --> 00:11:34,726
If you could do me a favor, and
just tell me about some of them.
238
00:11:34,728 --> 00:11:37,595
There was one morning,
and I was laying on my side,
239
00:11:37,597 --> 00:11:40,899
And I remember there was
something physically holding me,
240
00:11:40,901 --> 00:11:42,600
Keeping me from moving.
241
00:11:42,602 --> 00:11:44,502
So, did it feel like
there was hands on you,
242
00:11:44,504 --> 00:11:45,770
Or did it feel
like a pressure?
243
00:11:45,772 --> 00:11:47,872
Pressure.
I didn't feel hands,
244
00:11:47,874 --> 00:11:51,242
Just something keeping me
from rolling over.
245
00:11:51,244 --> 00:11:52,610
Okay.
246
00:11:52,612 --> 00:11:54,012
Anything else physical like that
happen to you in the bed?
247
00:11:54,014 --> 00:11:57,148
There was another instance where
I was laying in bed, again,
248
00:11:57,150 --> 00:12:00,552
Just waking up, and then,
I suddenly feel the sheets
249
00:12:00,554 --> 00:12:01,986
Get yanked
right off my legs.
250
00:12:01,988 --> 00:12:03,521
I look down,
and the blankets
251
00:12:03,523 --> 00:12:06,057
Are just yanked
over to the side.
252
00:12:06,059 --> 00:12:07,892
Nobody else is
in the room.
253
00:12:07,894 --> 00:12:09,461
I didn't kick them off.
254
00:12:09,463 --> 00:12:11,296
I know you have dogs.
Is there any chance...?
255
00:12:11,298 --> 00:12:13,131
No. The dogs
weren't in the room.
256
00:12:13,133 --> 00:12:14,332
Anything else?
257
00:12:14,334 --> 00:12:16,134
Just a couple years ago,
I had a full cardiac workup,
258
00:12:16,136 --> 00:12:17,435
Just a regular checkup --
259
00:12:17,437 --> 00:12:20,205
And I had absolutely no
health issues whatsoever.
260
00:12:20,207 --> 00:12:22,140
Two years later,
since moving into this house,
261
00:12:22,142 --> 00:12:25,944
I now suffer from an enlarged
heart and high blood pressure.
262
00:12:25,946 --> 00:12:30,648
And the doctors can't seem to,
you know, tell me why.
263
00:12:30,650 --> 00:12:32,317
I don't know if that's
paranormal, but it's kind of odd
264
00:12:32,319 --> 00:12:34,085
For somebody your age
to be dealing with that.
265
00:12:34,087 --> 00:12:35,887
I think it has something to do
with the house.
266
00:12:35,889 --> 00:12:38,056
Whatever it is that's here,
if it wants to,
267
00:12:38,058 --> 00:12:39,858
I think it could kill
one of us.
268
00:12:43,930 --> 00:12:51,102
Amy: The old lady, she very much
dislikes people,
269
00:12:51,104 --> 00:12:53,071
Whether they're
dead or alive.
270
00:12:55,275 --> 00:12:57,642
She's talking about
killing people.
271
00:13:05,018 --> 00:13:07,952
Steve:
So, kaleb, mom tells me you're having a pretty tough time here.
272
00:13:07,954 --> 00:13:09,354
Tell me what's going on.
273
00:13:09,356 --> 00:13:12,423
Well, there's a mirror
at the end of this hallway,
274
00:13:12,425 --> 00:13:16,127
And there was a tall
shadow figure standing behind me
275
00:13:16,129 --> 00:13:17,729
That I thought was my brother.
And I turned around.
276
00:13:17,731 --> 00:13:18,730
There was no one there.
277
00:13:18,732 --> 00:13:20,532
Ooh. That would have
gave me chills.
278
00:13:20,534 --> 00:13:22,534
Yeah.
So, I ran to my bedroom.
279
00:13:22,536 --> 00:13:25,370
Mom told me about some physical
attacks that you're enduring.
280
00:13:25,372 --> 00:13:26,371
What's going on?
281
00:13:26,373 --> 00:13:27,839
This back staircase
back here,
282
00:13:27,841 --> 00:13:31,576
I've actually been pushed, like,
a pressure of hands on my back.
283
00:13:31,578 --> 00:13:33,611
Okay. And you're sure
you didn't trip?
284
00:13:33,613 --> 00:13:35,680
Yeah. My head
went back, like...
285
00:13:35,682 --> 00:13:38,316
It sounds like the stuff
you're going through is insane.
286
00:13:38,318 --> 00:13:42,253
Oh, yes. It's definitely
draining, exhausting.
287
00:13:42,255 --> 00:13:43,855
So, avery, your mom
and your brother told me
288
00:13:43,857 --> 00:13:46,024
About some physical attacks
that happened to them.
289
00:13:46,026 --> 00:13:47,125
Anything like that
happen to you?
290
00:13:47,127 --> 00:13:48,693
Yes. I was scratched.
291
00:13:48,695 --> 00:13:51,229
Where?
I was scratched on the chest.
292
00:13:51,231 --> 00:13:52,564
Did it break the skin
at all?
293
00:13:52,566 --> 00:13:53,698
A little bit.
Alright.
294
00:13:53,700 --> 00:13:54,933
Anything else?
295
00:13:54,935 --> 00:13:55,967
Yes.
296
00:13:59,706 --> 00:14:02,507
Fully black, fully opaque,
except for his face.
297
00:14:02,509 --> 00:14:06,878
He has a cheek-to-cheek smile
with very sharp teeth,
298
00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,147
Fully black eyes
with little red dots.
299
00:14:09,149 --> 00:14:10,481
Alright. What do you do
when you see that?
300
00:14:10,483 --> 00:14:13,885
I basically just close my eyes,
and I tell him to go away.
301
00:14:13,887 --> 00:14:15,486
Everybody is pretty riled
by what's going on here,
302
00:14:15,488 --> 00:14:18,389
But you don't seem to be
too upset about it.
303
00:14:18,391 --> 00:14:20,291
You think you're getting numb
to this stuff?
304
00:14:20,293 --> 00:14:21,459
Yes.
305
00:14:21,461 --> 00:14:23,461
I'm just done with
whatever is going on.
306
00:14:23,463 --> 00:14:25,230
I just want it
out and gone,
307
00:14:25,232 --> 00:14:26,898
And I want it to leave
my family alone.
308
00:14:26,900 --> 00:14:29,300
Why do you think your family is
being picked on in this house?
309
00:14:29,302 --> 00:14:34,806
I feel that it, like, died
living a certain lifestyle,
310
00:14:34,808 --> 00:14:37,075
And the lifestyle
we're living now,
311
00:14:37,077 --> 00:14:39,577
I'm thinking that the spirit
doesn't approve of it.
312
00:14:39,579 --> 00:14:42,213
Okay.
313
00:14:42,215 --> 00:14:46,251
The old lady, I think that
she's extremely physical.
314
00:14:46,253 --> 00:14:47,886
She's very controlling,
315
00:14:47,888 --> 00:14:51,256
Definitely drains
people's energy.
316
00:14:55,095 --> 00:14:59,998
That old lady doesn't like
this person at all.
317
00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,967
"you're disgusting," like...
318
00:15:02,969 --> 00:15:06,871
Hate -- lots of hate here.
319
00:15:06,873 --> 00:15:10,408
Mostly doing, like, kind of
passive-aggressive ****.
320
00:15:12,312 --> 00:15:15,480
So, moving the bed,
shaking the bed,
321
00:15:15,482 --> 00:15:19,951
Pinching, pinching,
pinching.
322
00:15:19,953 --> 00:15:22,654
I think she might
be biting, too,
323
00:15:22,656 --> 00:15:25,223
Because there's
so much hatred.
324
00:15:25,225 --> 00:15:29,894
I'm surprised she's not doing
anything more than that.
325
00:15:29,896 --> 00:15:31,362
Man:
Any particular reason?
326
00:15:31,364 --> 00:15:33,965
She feels there's something
fundamentally wrong
327
00:15:33,967 --> 00:15:38,536
With this person --
disgust, disdain.
328
00:15:38,538 --> 00:15:39,704
This is bad.
329
00:15:52,552 --> 00:15:55,019
So, jennifer told me
her house was once owned
330
00:15:55,021 --> 00:15:57,922
By the first female cop
in toledo.
331
00:15:57,924 --> 00:16:00,091
I made some calls,
and the story checks out.
332
00:16:00,093 --> 00:16:01,426
I'm headed back to
the property now
333
00:16:01,428 --> 00:16:03,328
To meet
the woman's daughter.
334
00:16:03,330 --> 00:16:06,864
She told me the house has seen
its share of death and tragedy.
335
00:16:13,039 --> 00:16:14,939
Well, rose marie, I appreciate
you meeting with me.
336
00:16:14,941 --> 00:16:17,575
You mentioned on the phone
your mother was quite the woman.
337
00:16:17,577 --> 00:16:18,843
Yes. I think she was. Yes.
338
00:16:18,845 --> 00:16:20,278
Okay. What can you
tell me about her?
339
00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,881
When she was 18,
she married walter enright,
340
00:16:23,883 --> 00:16:28,386
And she was very prominent
in society.
341
00:16:28,388 --> 00:16:31,823
Okay. When did she go from this
glamorous-looking socialite
342
00:16:31,825 --> 00:16:34,492
To the first female cop
in toledo?
343
00:16:34,494 --> 00:16:37,028
I believe it was 1923.
344
00:16:37,030 --> 00:16:38,663
So, how long was she on
the police department?
345
00:16:38,665 --> 00:16:40,832
Do you know?
Yeah. I think 4 years.
346
00:16:40,834 --> 00:16:41,966
So, what made her leave?
347
00:16:41,968 --> 00:16:45,670
She felt that the department
was too corrupt.
348
00:16:45,672 --> 00:16:47,071
Okay.
349
00:16:47,073 --> 00:16:50,308
Now, I understand your mother
bought this house in 1944.
350
00:16:50,310 --> 00:16:52,410
How old were you then?
8 years old.
351
00:16:52,412 --> 00:16:53,644
Oh, okay.
352
00:16:53,646 --> 00:16:54,946
So, rose marie,
you mentioned on the phone
353
00:16:54,948 --> 00:16:56,714
There were some deaths
associated with your family
354
00:16:56,716 --> 00:16:57,949
In the house, here.
355
00:16:57,951 --> 00:17:01,953
Yes. The first death
was my grandfather.
356
00:17:01,955 --> 00:17:04,689
This is my grandfather's
death certificate.
357
00:17:04,691 --> 00:17:06,391
He was 72.
358
00:17:06,393 --> 00:17:10,094
He died from a heart attack
in the basement.
359
00:17:10,096 --> 00:17:13,097
Then, of course,
my mother passed away here.
360
00:17:13,099 --> 00:17:14,432
How old was your mom
when she passed?
361
00:17:14,434 --> 00:17:15,833
991/2.
362
00:17:15,835 --> 00:17:17,235
Wow.
She almost made it to 100.
363
00:17:17,237 --> 00:17:18,636
Yes.
364
00:17:18,638 --> 00:17:21,372
This is a week
before she passed.
365
00:17:21,374 --> 00:17:22,840
She's 99 in this photo?
366
00:17:22,842 --> 00:17:24,342
Yes.
You're kidding me.
367
00:17:24,344 --> 00:17:25,810
Well, god bless her,
991/2.
368
00:17:25,812 --> 00:17:27,211
Yeah. Right.
369
00:17:27,213 --> 00:17:29,147
You mentioned that there
was a tragedy in the house.
370
00:17:29,149 --> 00:17:30,348
What was that
all about?
371
00:17:30,350 --> 00:17:33,785
I rented the third floor
to a young man,
372
00:17:33,787 --> 00:17:36,687
And I didn't know
too much about him.
373
00:17:36,689 --> 00:17:41,492
Apparently, he was into heroin,
and he overdosed.
374
00:17:41,494 --> 00:17:43,127
Do you remember when
that matter happened?
375
00:17:43,129 --> 00:17:45,963
Not exactly, but I think
it was in the '80s.
376
00:17:45,965 --> 00:17:47,198
Quite a few deaths here.
377
00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,401
Yeah, there were -- and some
of them are still here.
378
00:17:53,873 --> 00:17:56,774
Amy: I'm seeing
the young dead guy again.
379
00:17:56,776 --> 00:17:59,911
Not necessarily getting
an owner's feeling,
380
00:17:59,913 --> 00:18:04,248
But more of, like,
he lived here at some point.
381
00:18:04,250 --> 00:18:07,785
He is very thin,
kind of looks sickly.
382
00:18:07,787 --> 00:18:10,288
He's very pale,
very sunken eyes.
383
00:18:10,290 --> 00:18:15,760
??
384
00:18:15,762 --> 00:18:17,628
He wants to be alone.
385
00:18:17,630 --> 00:18:21,165
And he said,
"they are in my space."
386
00:18:21,167 --> 00:18:23,768
And I'm getting something
about drugs.
387
00:18:23,770 --> 00:18:26,237
I think he od'd.
388
00:18:26,239 --> 00:18:30,775
I don't know if it was
accidental or on purpose.
389
00:18:30,777 --> 00:18:32,443
Maybe heroin,
I'm thinking?
390
00:18:32,445 --> 00:18:34,112
I'm not sure.
391
00:18:34,114 --> 00:18:38,449
I'd put him in maybe
the '70s, '80s.
392
00:18:38,451 --> 00:18:40,251
He said that he just
went to sleep.
393
00:18:42,822 --> 00:18:44,889
So, before I got to town,
I called my old buddy,
394
00:18:44,891 --> 00:18:46,791
Lou hebert,
who's a local law guy,
395
00:18:46,793 --> 00:18:48,593
And had him do
some digging for me.
396
00:18:48,595 --> 00:18:50,461
So, he just called back,
and says he's got something
397
00:18:50,463 --> 00:18:52,497
I'm definitely gonna
want to know about.
398
00:18:52,499 --> 00:18:53,931
Turns out,
a prominent woman
399
00:18:53,933 --> 00:18:56,868
Bought jennifer's house
in the early 1900s,
400
00:18:56,870 --> 00:18:59,237
And lou says everyone close
to this matriarch
401
00:18:59,239 --> 00:19:00,938
Started dropping dead.
402
00:19:05,545 --> 00:19:06,744
Who was this family?
403
00:19:06,746 --> 00:19:07,979
When did they get to
my client's property?
404
00:19:07,981 --> 00:19:09,780
Lou: Well, this was
the gutchess family,
405
00:19:09,782 --> 00:19:12,750
And leda was the matriarch
of the family.
406
00:19:12,752 --> 00:19:15,753
She bought that house
in 1919.
407
00:19:15,755 --> 00:19:18,289
She was single, so it was
kind of unusual at that time.
408
00:19:18,291 --> 00:19:20,424
Here is a picture
of her, here.
409
00:19:20,426 --> 00:19:22,026
So, this is 1919.
410
00:19:22,028 --> 00:19:23,261
She's a single woman.
411
00:19:23,263 --> 00:19:25,029
How is she able
to afford a house
412
00:19:25,031 --> 00:19:26,531
In that neighborhood
back then?
413
00:19:26,533 --> 00:19:28,499
Well, we know that
she was very rich.
414
00:19:28,501 --> 00:19:30,735
Her father was a doctor,
but he was also an inventor,
415
00:19:30,737 --> 00:19:34,539
And he invented an aerial
spray device for medicine.
416
00:19:34,541 --> 00:19:36,874
And they became very wealthy
as a result of that.
417
00:19:36,876 --> 00:19:38,142
Alright. So, you said
she was single
418
00:19:38,144 --> 00:19:39,443
When she moved
into the house,
419
00:19:39,445 --> 00:19:41,512
But had she ever been married
before then?
420
00:19:41,514 --> 00:19:42,846
Yes. She was.
421
00:19:42,848 --> 00:19:45,149
She married a fellow
by the name of frank gutchess.
422
00:19:45,151 --> 00:19:47,718
There's his photo, there.
423
00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,020
Okay. So, what happened
to this guy?
424
00:19:49,022 --> 00:19:50,555
Well, he died in 1911.
425
00:19:50,557 --> 00:19:52,256
He was only 46 years old.
426
00:19:52,258 --> 00:19:53,524
What'd he die of?
427
00:19:53,526 --> 00:19:56,928
Well, he died of arthritis
and inflamed kidneys.
428
00:19:56,930 --> 00:19:58,529
Alright. So, this woman
had people croaking on her
429
00:19:58,531 --> 00:20:00,164
Before she even got
to my client's house.
430
00:20:00,166 --> 00:20:01,165
Oh, yeah.
431
00:20:01,167 --> 00:20:02,967
Her brother died
just a short time
432
00:20:02,969 --> 00:20:04,535
After her husband
had died.
433
00:20:04,537 --> 00:20:07,171
Then, her father dies
a few years after that.
434
00:20:07,173 --> 00:20:09,607
A couple of years later
is when she bought the house.
435
00:20:09,609 --> 00:20:12,210
Okay, so, she loses three people
before she even gets there.
436
00:20:12,212 --> 00:20:13,477
Absolutely. Yeah.
437
00:20:13,479 --> 00:20:14,879
This is a pretty big house.
438
00:20:14,881 --> 00:20:16,681
I mean, it's 5,000 square feet.
439
00:20:16,683 --> 00:20:17,715
Was she living there alone?
440
00:20:17,717 --> 00:20:19,016
No. She didn't
live there alone.
441
00:20:19,018 --> 00:20:20,985
She had an extended family
with her.
442
00:20:20,987 --> 00:20:22,920
First, her mother was
living there with her.
443
00:20:22,922 --> 00:20:26,090
And then, she also had a son,
alan, who was living there,
444
00:20:26,092 --> 00:20:28,292
And alan had
a daughter named betty,
445
00:20:28,294 --> 00:20:29,894
Who was an infant
at the time.
446
00:20:29,896 --> 00:20:32,830
Alright. So, lou, obviously leda
had a lot of deaths around her
447
00:20:32,832 --> 00:20:34,565
Before she even got to
my client's house.
448
00:20:34,567 --> 00:20:36,200
Did it continue
after she got there?
449
00:20:36,202 --> 00:20:39,270
Yeah. It did. And the first one
was her own daughter, helen.
450
00:20:39,272 --> 00:20:42,707
On June 10th of 1921,
she was cleaning the house
451
00:20:42,709 --> 00:20:47,011
With some sort of kerosene,
or gasoline, or something.
452
00:20:47,013 --> 00:20:48,179
It ignited.
453
00:20:48,181 --> 00:20:49,814
Oh, geez.
It exploded.
454
00:20:49,816 --> 00:20:52,350
She died in front of her
3- year-old child
455
00:20:52,352 --> 00:20:55,186
At the age of 26.
456
00:20:55,188 --> 00:20:57,388
As you can see here, I've got
the death certificate
457
00:20:57,390 --> 00:20:58,956
And the photo.
458
00:20:58,958 --> 00:21:00,925
So, she burns to death.
Yeah.
459
00:21:00,927 --> 00:21:02,627
Man, this family can't
get away from it, huh?
460
00:21:02,629 --> 00:21:04,762
No. Thomas, the brother,
461
00:21:04,764 --> 00:21:08,232
Dies a few years later
at the age of 50 from cancer.
462
00:21:08,234 --> 00:21:09,567
Okay.
463
00:21:09,569 --> 00:21:12,570
Then, a few years after that,
leda's mother dies.
464
00:21:12,572 --> 00:21:16,140
She dies from a heart attack,
and she dies in the house.
465
00:21:16,142 --> 00:21:17,575
There's a picture
of her --
466
00:21:17,577 --> 00:21:19,610
Rather stern-looking
woman, there --
467
00:21:19,612 --> 00:21:21,746
And her death certificate,
as well.
468
00:21:21,748 --> 00:21:24,181
So, six of her family members
drop dead.
469
00:21:24,183 --> 00:21:26,717
Yeah -- in a very,
very short period of time.
470
00:21:26,719 --> 00:21:27,818
Whatever happens to her?
471
00:21:27,820 --> 00:21:30,087
She ends up selling the house
in 1944.
472
00:21:30,089 --> 00:21:33,824
And then, in 1955,
she dies of a stroke.
473
00:21:33,826 --> 00:21:35,126
She was 84.
474
00:21:35,128 --> 00:21:36,560
So, when you said
she had a lot of death
475
00:21:36,562 --> 00:21:37,862
Around her,
you weren't kidding.
476
00:21:37,864 --> 00:21:38,896
Yeah.
477
00:21:41,701 --> 00:21:43,901
Amy:
The old dead lady is up here.
478
00:21:43,903 --> 00:21:46,304
She's attached
to this house.
479
00:21:48,408 --> 00:21:55,146
She owned it from, like,
1910 to 1940, or something.
480
00:21:55,148 --> 00:21:56,914
Man:
Can you describe her?
481
00:21:56,916 --> 00:21:59,016
At least in her 80s.
482
00:22:03,423 --> 00:22:05,456
I don't know if she actually
killed people,
483
00:22:05,458 --> 00:22:07,391
Or she just wanted to,
484
00:22:07,393 --> 00:22:10,795
But she had a hand in
getting rid of people,
485
00:22:10,797 --> 00:22:15,132
One way or the other, pushing
them away and killing them.
486
00:22:25,411 --> 00:22:26,410
For more information about
the show,
487
00:22:26,412 --> 00:22:27,845
And if you need us
to investigate
488
00:22:27,847 --> 00:22:29,680
Unexplained activity
in your home...
489
00:22:29,682 --> 00:22:32,983
Please visit
travelchannel.Com/thedeadfiles.
490
00:22:32,985 --> 00:22:34,385
Click on
"help me, dead files!"
491
00:22:34,387 --> 00:22:36,187
To submit your story,
and we'll help if we can.
492
00:22:42,628 --> 00:22:46,464
??
493
00:22:46,466 --> 00:22:48,966
Steve: So far, I've got a family
living in fear in a house
494
00:22:48,968 --> 00:22:51,335
Where a hell of a lot of people
have died,
495
00:22:51,337 --> 00:22:53,504
But I want to see
if there's anything else.
496
00:22:56,075 --> 00:22:57,375
Searching through
old records,
497
00:22:57,377 --> 00:22:59,777
I find a pair of
serial-killing brothers
498
00:22:59,779 --> 00:23:02,179
Who terrorized toledo
in the early '80s.
499
00:23:02,181 --> 00:23:04,515
Turns out, one of their victims
was murdered
500
00:23:04,517 --> 00:23:06,417
Close to jennifer
and dana's house.
501
00:23:08,654 --> 00:23:10,888
So, I'm headed to meet
a retired toledo detective
502
00:23:10,890 --> 00:23:13,157
Who remembers
the case well.
503
00:23:13,159 --> 00:23:16,160
She says these killers
were bloodthirsty monsters,
504
00:23:16,162 --> 00:23:17,395
And their crimes
still haunt
505
00:23:17,397 --> 00:23:19,397
Jennifer's neighborhood
to this day.
506
00:23:26,773 --> 00:23:28,272
Well, detective, I appreciate
you helping me out
507
00:23:28,274 --> 00:23:29,407
With this case.
508
00:23:29,409 --> 00:23:31,075
What can you tell me
about these guys?
509
00:23:31,077 --> 00:23:37,148
Well, they're two brothers,
anthony and nathaniel cook,
510
00:23:37,150 --> 00:23:42,787
Who terrorized toledo for a year
and a half in the early '80s.
511
00:23:42,789 --> 00:23:44,355
You know, you and I both know
serial killers
512
00:23:44,357 --> 00:23:47,124
Usually kill in the same manner,
but sometimes, they vary.
513
00:23:47,126 --> 00:23:48,325
What about these guys?
514
00:23:48,327 --> 00:23:49,860
They did a little bit
of everything.
515
00:23:49,862 --> 00:23:53,030
Sometimes, they bludgeoned
their victims
516
00:23:53,032 --> 00:23:54,632
With a baseball bat.
Okay.
517
00:23:54,634 --> 00:23:57,435
Sometimes, they stabbed
the victims,
518
00:23:57,437 --> 00:24:00,504
And sometimes, they shot them
execution-style.
519
00:24:00,506 --> 00:24:02,373
Alright, so, their killing
method varied.
520
00:24:02,375 --> 00:24:03,774
What about their victims?
521
00:24:03,776 --> 00:24:06,076
Their victims were
usually consistent --
522
00:24:06,078 --> 00:24:09,613
Young white females
that were seen either alone
523
00:24:09,615 --> 00:24:12,016
Or in the company of,
maybe, a boyfriend.
524
00:24:12,018 --> 00:24:14,051
So, you mentioned on the phone
this whole thing that happened
525
00:24:14,053 --> 00:24:15,786
With these guys still haunts
my client's neighborhood.
526
00:24:15,788 --> 00:24:17,188
What'd you mean by that?
527
00:24:17,190 --> 00:24:21,158
Because your client actually
lives two and a half blocks
528
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,162
From the location of the last
murder they committed together.
529
00:24:25,164 --> 00:24:27,198
Okay. So, when did
that happen?
530
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,000
February 21st of 1981.
531
00:24:30,002 --> 00:24:32,670
Okay. So, what were
the circumstances?
532
00:24:32,672 --> 00:24:36,040
Dawn rene backes,
12-year-old girl --
533
00:24:36,042 --> 00:24:40,411
They abducted her, drug her
inside an old abandoned theater.
534
00:24:40,413 --> 00:24:42,079
They tortured her.
535
00:24:42,081 --> 00:24:43,781
They raped her.
536
00:24:43,783 --> 00:24:46,450
And then, they crushed her skull
with a cinder block.
537
00:24:46,452 --> 00:24:47,651
These guys
are real animals.
538
00:24:47,653 --> 00:24:49,553
Animals. Evil.
539
00:24:49,555 --> 00:24:51,155
So, I know these two
scumbags get caught.
540
00:24:51,157 --> 00:24:52,423
What happened?
541
00:24:52,425 --> 00:24:56,093
Seven months later,
anthony cook, acting alone,
542
00:24:56,095 --> 00:24:57,528
Assaulted a couple
543
00:24:57,530 --> 00:24:59,930
That were just sitting
in their van talking.
544
00:24:59,932 --> 00:25:01,765
The girlfriend
was able to flee
545
00:25:01,767 --> 00:25:04,568
While her boyfriend
is wrestling with anthony.
546
00:25:04,570 --> 00:25:06,136
They survived the attack,
547
00:25:06,138 --> 00:25:09,740
And were now able to go
into court as witnesses.
548
00:25:09,742 --> 00:25:10,941
So, they identify anthony.
549
00:25:10,943 --> 00:25:12,776
And they identified
anthony, yes.
550
00:25:12,778 --> 00:25:15,079
Alright. So, how did they link
him and his brother
551
00:25:15,081 --> 00:25:16,313
To the other murders?
552
00:25:16,315 --> 00:25:19,383
They were able to match
the brothers' dna
553
00:25:19,385 --> 00:25:21,852
With three of
the other murders.
554
00:25:21,854 --> 00:25:23,487
Okay, so, now,
what happens?
555
00:25:23,489 --> 00:25:25,856
Well, the brothers entered
a plea agreement,
556
00:25:25,858 --> 00:25:30,528
And they ended up admitting
to eight slayings.
557
00:25:30,530 --> 00:25:34,298
Anthony cook was convicted,
and sentenced to life in prison.
558
00:25:34,300 --> 00:25:36,400
Surprisingly,
nathaniel,
559
00:25:36,402 --> 00:25:39,403
He got 20 years
through a plea agreement,
560
00:25:39,405 --> 00:25:41,805
And he was released in 2018.
561
00:25:41,807 --> 00:25:42,840
He's out?
562
00:25:42,842 --> 00:25:44,441
He is out.
563
00:25:44,443 --> 00:25:46,343
Holy ****.
564
00:25:46,345 --> 00:25:48,312
There's no justice
right there.
565
00:25:48,314 --> 00:25:49,346
None.
566
00:25:53,719 --> 00:25:56,787
Amy:
Something happened here.
567
00:25:56,789 --> 00:26:00,524
I'm hearing
a lot of screaming.
568
00:26:00,526 --> 00:26:03,060
Mainly, I'm hearing
women screaming,
569
00:26:03,062 --> 00:26:05,629
Lots of panic
and chaos happening.
570
00:26:10,169 --> 00:26:13,971
I know that someone has died,
or is gonna die.
571
00:26:13,973 --> 00:26:17,207
I think it's her --
the one who's screaming.
572
00:26:17,209 --> 00:26:21,345
She looks young, maybe late
teens or early 20s.
573
00:26:21,347 --> 00:26:26,650
But there's all this people
around, and wigging out.
574
00:26:29,355 --> 00:26:35,392
And there's people -- like,
men -- trying to handle it.
575
00:26:35,394 --> 00:26:38,062
I can't understand them, but she
just won't stop screaming
576
00:26:38,064 --> 00:26:39,863
About whatever the ****
is happening.
577
00:26:39,865 --> 00:26:42,733
And she's saying,
"oh, god, help me.
578
00:26:42,735 --> 00:26:47,171
Help me get out of here," like,
"this can't be happening.
579
00:26:47,173 --> 00:26:49,039
Oh, my god. Oh, my god."
580
00:26:56,849 --> 00:26:59,483
I saw several disturbing things
on my walk,
581
00:26:59,485 --> 00:27:01,852
But the hateful old lady
and little boy
582
00:27:01,854 --> 00:27:05,489
Terrorizing a living person
has me the most concerned.
583
00:27:07,860 --> 00:27:11,862
This haggard little old woman
has a hunched back --
584
00:27:11,864 --> 00:27:14,999
Very thin, bony.
585
00:27:15,001 --> 00:27:18,035
And then,
there's this little boy.
586
00:27:18,037 --> 00:27:22,306
His eyes were really
large and dark.
587
00:27:22,308 --> 00:27:24,008
He had, like, a grin,
588
00:27:24,010 --> 00:27:27,478
And he had all of these
really long, sharp teeth.
589
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:32,883
They're very, very bad,
and very scary.
590
00:27:32,885 --> 00:27:35,719
Oh, she had
crazy eyebrows, too.
591
00:27:40,326 --> 00:27:42,259
Amy, is this what you saw?
592
00:27:42,261 --> 00:27:43,894
Yes. That's what I saw.
593
00:28:04,784 --> 00:28:07,751
Steve: Now that amy and I have
completed our investigations,
594
00:28:07,753 --> 00:28:10,020
We're ready to reveal
our findings to each other,
595
00:28:10,022 --> 00:28:12,589
And our clients,
for the first time.
596
00:28:12,591 --> 00:28:15,626
So, amy, I'd like you to meet
jennifer and her husband, dana.
597
00:28:15,628 --> 00:28:19,129
Now, 2 years ago, they bought
this place sight unseen.
598
00:28:19,131 --> 00:28:24,234
And when they did, they moved in
with dana's mother, connie,
599
00:28:24,236 --> 00:28:28,572
And their two sons -- kaleb,
who's 13, avery, who's 17.
600
00:28:28,574 --> 00:28:30,808
Since then, the whole family
has been terrorized,
601
00:28:30,810 --> 00:28:35,312
And these two are convinced that
no one is safe in this house.
602
00:28:35,314 --> 00:28:37,448
So, unless amy has
some questions for you,
603
00:28:37,450 --> 00:28:39,049
She'll tell us
about her walk.
604
00:28:39,051 --> 00:28:41,852
??
605
00:28:41,854 --> 00:28:46,957
The first active dead person
that I came into contact with
606
00:28:46,959 --> 00:28:50,027
Was a male,
overall kind of a mess.
607
00:28:50,029 --> 00:28:54,298
He was just going off about
how he wants to be left alone.
608
00:28:54,300 --> 00:28:57,401
He hates the fact that
living people are here.
609
00:28:57,403 --> 00:29:03,407
Some of the things that he does
is, he is constantly watching.
610
00:29:03,409 --> 00:29:07,377
And he often is watching
from the mirrors.
611
00:29:07,379 --> 00:29:08,912
I spoke to kaleb.
612
00:29:08,914 --> 00:29:12,149
He saw a shadow behind him
in an upstairs mirror.
613
00:29:12,151 --> 00:29:13,717
Okay.
So, it freaked him out.
614
00:29:13,719 --> 00:29:15,419
Yeah, that's typical.
615
00:29:15,421 --> 00:29:17,921
He does travel
as a black mist,
616
00:29:17,923 --> 00:29:20,657
But, like, you know
it's a person.
617
00:29:20,659 --> 00:29:23,193
At times, you can see him,
like, kind of out
618
00:29:23,195 --> 00:29:26,230
Of the corner
of your eye.
619
00:29:26,232 --> 00:29:28,999
A lot of times, on the
main level of the house,
620
00:29:29,001 --> 00:29:34,204
You will see a mist, like
somebody just blew out a candle.
621
00:29:34,206 --> 00:29:35,439
You can see it.
622
00:29:35,441 --> 00:29:38,008
Sometimes, you can see through
it, and it's moving.
623
00:29:38,010 --> 00:29:41,178
Did you get anything on this guy
when he was around?
624
00:29:41,180 --> 00:29:44,314
Younger, definitely.
I'd put him in his 20s.
625
00:29:44,316 --> 00:29:46,083
I'd put him in the 1980s.
626
00:29:46,085 --> 00:29:48,685
I got that he lived here
at some point,
627
00:29:48,687 --> 00:29:51,455
But I don't think
he was an owner.
628
00:29:51,457 --> 00:29:56,560
I was kind of seeing him,
like, looking strung out.
629
00:29:56,562 --> 00:29:59,429
I was thinking along
the lines of heroin.
630
00:29:59,431 --> 00:30:04,301
I do believe
that he od'd,
631
00:30:04,303 --> 00:30:08,639
And he said that he just went
to sleep, and never woke up.
632
00:30:08,641 --> 00:30:11,008
I'm pretty sure I know
who she's talking about.
633
00:30:11,010 --> 00:30:14,845
So, I spoke to a woman
whose family owned this house
634
00:30:14,847 --> 00:30:16,280
For over 60 years.
635
00:30:16,282 --> 00:30:18,615
Now, she told me about
a few deaths in the house,
636
00:30:18,617 --> 00:30:21,251
But the one you just mentioned
is right on the money.
637
00:30:21,253 --> 00:30:26,657
In 1980s, she rented out
the attic to a young male.
638
00:30:26,659 --> 00:30:29,927
But she hadn't seen him
around in a couple days.
639
00:30:29,929 --> 00:30:32,129
When they went
upstairs to look,
640
00:30:32,131 --> 00:30:34,832
He was in his room, dead,
from a heroin overdose.
641
00:30:34,834 --> 00:30:37,634
Yeah.
642
00:30:37,636 --> 00:30:40,204
So, what else
did you encounter?
643
00:30:40,206 --> 00:30:44,308
The next dead person that
I encountered was a little boy.
644
00:30:44,310 --> 00:30:48,111
He, like, smiled, and he had
just, like, knives for teeth.
645
00:30:48,113 --> 00:30:51,114
And I was like,
"oh, ****."
646
00:30:51,116 --> 00:30:53,250
There's a few ways
that the living here,
647
00:30:53,252 --> 00:30:56,286
I think, would experience
this kid.
648
00:30:56,288 --> 00:30:57,955
He can manipulate
his surroundings
649
00:30:57,957 --> 00:31:00,090
By opening
and closing doors.
650
00:31:00,092 --> 00:31:03,760
We were laying in bed together,
just watching tv,
651
00:31:03,762 --> 00:31:06,330
And the door
just flung open.
652
00:31:06,332 --> 00:31:09,499
Got out and looked, both kids
were asleep in their bed.
653
00:31:09,501 --> 00:31:11,668
Mother-in-law was asleep
in her bed.
654
00:31:11,670 --> 00:31:12,870
Interesting.
655
00:31:12,872 --> 00:31:14,905
The thing that really
concerned me about him
656
00:31:14,907 --> 00:31:17,441
Is that I did see him
getting physical
657
00:31:17,443 --> 00:31:20,911
With the living --
biting, punching, pushing.
658
00:31:20,913 --> 00:31:25,682
I don't know if he would ever
really kill anybody,
659
00:31:25,684 --> 00:31:28,051
But it's a possibility.
660
00:31:28,053 --> 00:31:29,953
He would be
more than capable.
661
00:31:32,725 --> 00:31:39,029
??
662
00:31:39,031 --> 00:31:45,335
??
663
00:31:45,337 --> 00:31:47,771
You okay, jen?
You need a break?
664
00:31:47,773 --> 00:31:49,706
- I'm okay.
- You sure?
665
00:31:49,708 --> 00:31:50,741
Yeah.
666
00:31:53,145 --> 00:31:55,145
Tell amy about
what's going on
667
00:31:55,147 --> 00:31:58,815
With avery and kaleb, and the
experiences with the scratches.
668
00:31:58,817 --> 00:32:00,951
They have
unexplained scratches
669
00:32:00,953 --> 00:32:03,186
On different parts
of their body.
670
00:32:03,188 --> 00:32:07,124
They have no idea how they got
these scratches on them.
671
00:32:07,126 --> 00:32:09,826
Now, kaleb told me about this,
but you tell amy about him
672
00:32:09,828 --> 00:32:12,329
On the staircase,
and tripping, and all that.
673
00:32:12,331 --> 00:32:15,299
Kaleb felt he was shoved
down the stairs,
674
00:32:15,301 --> 00:32:18,335
And got injured
pretty good.
675
00:32:18,337 --> 00:32:21,004
You mentioned something about
him smiling with sharp teeth.
676
00:32:21,006 --> 00:32:24,641
Now, when I spoke to avery,
677
00:32:24,643 --> 00:32:27,811
He says he sees a creature
he calls the smiley man.
678
00:32:27,813 --> 00:32:29,513
Oh, yeah.
679
00:32:29,515 --> 00:32:30,747
It's a dark, shadowy thing
680
00:32:30,749 --> 00:32:33,951
With long, sharp teeth
and red eyes.
681
00:32:33,953 --> 00:32:35,052
That's how he sees it.
682
00:32:35,054 --> 00:32:36,887
Okay. Interesting.
683
00:32:36,889 --> 00:32:40,057
Yeah.
684
00:32:40,059 --> 00:32:41,992
So, what else you got?
685
00:32:41,994 --> 00:32:47,965
The person I'm the most
concerned about is this female.
686
00:32:47,967 --> 00:32:51,101
She is angry and hateful.
687
00:32:51,103 --> 00:32:54,371
She talked a lot
about killing people.
688
00:32:54,373 --> 00:32:58,208
I got that she was
very judgmental in life,
689
00:32:58,210 --> 00:33:00,510
And she's the same
way in death.
690
00:33:00,512 --> 00:33:03,780
Saw her upstairs
in the middle bedroom,
691
00:33:03,782 --> 00:33:07,050
And she was excessively
picking on that person
692
00:33:07,052 --> 00:33:10,887
Because she felt like
there's something
693
00:33:10,889 --> 00:33:14,992
Fundamentally
wrong with them.
694
00:33:14,994 --> 00:33:18,829
The middle bedroom, I'm assuming
she means avery's bedroom.
695
00:33:18,831 --> 00:33:21,431
Avery did share with me that,
when I talked to him,
696
00:33:21,433 --> 00:33:24,735
He felt whatever ghosts
were here
697
00:33:24,737 --> 00:33:29,973
Didn't approve of the way
you guys or he lived his life.
698
00:33:29,975 --> 00:33:33,043
Well, I'll go ahead
and throw it out there.
699
00:33:33,045 --> 00:33:34,845
Our oldest son,
avery, is gay.
700
00:33:34,847 --> 00:33:38,181
Many people
would disapprove.
701
00:33:38,183 --> 00:33:41,885
Would avery feel those judgments
from her?
702
00:33:41,887 --> 00:33:43,820
He'd feel her hate.
703
00:33:43,822 --> 00:33:45,455
He says that all the time.
704
00:33:45,457 --> 00:33:47,524
She's exacerbating...
Exactly.
705
00:33:47,526 --> 00:33:52,596
...Like, what emotions
he's going through.
706
00:33:52,598 --> 00:33:53,697
Steve: Now, the woman
you're talking about,
707
00:33:53,699 --> 00:33:54,765
Did you get
anything else on her,
708
00:33:54,767 --> 00:33:56,333
Like who she might
have been in life?
709
00:33:56,335 --> 00:33:58,602
I got that
she was a housewife.
710
00:33:58,604 --> 00:34:02,906
I believe she lived here
sometime between 1910 and 1940.
711
00:34:02,908 --> 00:34:05,175
I got that she was fairly old
when she died,
712
00:34:05,177 --> 00:34:07,044
I think in her 80s.
713
00:34:07,046 --> 00:34:14,017
And I think she died suddenly,
and possibly from a fall.
714
00:34:14,019 --> 00:34:16,353
That does make me think
of someone from my research.
715
00:34:16,355 --> 00:34:19,689
Her name was leda gutchess.
She was a rich, old widow.
716
00:34:19,691 --> 00:34:21,892
Like the woman you saw,
leda was a housewife.
717
00:34:21,894 --> 00:34:23,894
I have no records of her
killing anybody,
718
00:34:23,896 --> 00:34:26,029
But she did have
a lot of death in her life.
719
00:34:26,031 --> 00:34:28,398
Before she moved into
this house, her husband,
720
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,069
Brother and father all died
within a few years.
721
00:34:32,071 --> 00:34:34,704
But the deaths, for leda,
didn't stop there.
722
00:34:34,706 --> 00:34:38,008
Leda, her mother, her son all
moved in here together in 1919.
723
00:34:38,010 --> 00:34:44,281
1921, her daughter, helen,
she was cleaning with kerosene,
724
00:34:44,283 --> 00:34:46,183
Or something like that,
and she caught on fire.
725
00:34:46,185 --> 00:34:47,584
- Oh.
- [ gasps ] - well, that...
726
00:34:47,586 --> 00:34:48,718
Okay.
727
00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:50,020
This is her,
and her death certificate.
728
00:34:50,022 --> 00:34:52,222
She burned to death in front
of her 3-year-old kid.
729
00:34:52,224 --> 00:34:54,157
Oh.
730
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:57,327
Then, in 1928, her brother,
thomas, died of cancer
731
00:34:57,329 --> 00:34:59,196
When he was only
50 years old.
732
00:34:59,198 --> 00:35:03,100
Finally, in 1935,
her mother lydia died
733
00:35:03,102 --> 00:35:04,868
In this house
of a sudden heart attack.
734
00:35:04,870 --> 00:35:07,070
Now, she was
85 years old.
735
00:35:07,072 --> 00:35:10,574
I got her death certificate
and photo, as well.
736
00:35:10,576 --> 00:35:13,310
So, now that's seven deaths
in a 24-year period,
737
00:35:13,312 --> 00:35:15,579
Which is a lot
for immediate family members.
738
00:35:15,581 --> 00:35:18,315
Okay.
739
00:35:18,317 --> 00:35:21,485
Now, leda winded up
selling the house in 1944,
740
00:35:21,487 --> 00:35:22,953
But she stayed
in the area.
741
00:35:22,955 --> 00:35:25,088
She ended up dying
from a sudden stroke
742
00:35:25,090 --> 00:35:27,290
When she was
84 years old.
743
00:35:27,292 --> 00:35:29,893
I managed to track down a photo
of her, as well.
744
00:35:32,397 --> 00:35:35,232
That's leda, right here.
745
00:35:35,234 --> 00:35:36,867
Is it possible this
is who you saw?
746
00:35:36,869 --> 00:35:37,934
No.
747
00:35:39,705 --> 00:35:42,572
This is the one I saw.
748
00:35:42,574 --> 00:35:44,841
Okay. So, the woman you saw,
you think,
749
00:35:44,843 --> 00:35:48,111
Is leda's mom, lydia,
not leda.
750
00:35:48,113 --> 00:35:51,348
Lydia, yes.
Okay.
751
00:35:51,350 --> 00:35:52,382
So, you said she's the one
752
00:35:52,384 --> 00:35:53,483
That's got you
the most concerned.
753
00:35:53,485 --> 00:35:54,951
Why?
Yeah.
754
00:35:54,953 --> 00:35:57,654
So, she's the most active
out of everyone,
755
00:35:57,656 --> 00:35:59,890
And the most dangerous.
756
00:35:59,892 --> 00:36:03,393
She can be very physical
with the living.
757
00:36:03,395 --> 00:36:05,128
She showed me her shoving
the bed,
758
00:36:05,130 --> 00:36:06,963
Like, hitting it
with her legs,
759
00:36:06,965 --> 00:36:10,500
Pinching and flicking
that person.
760
00:36:10,502 --> 00:36:12,202
Tell her about how you got
held down in bed.
761
00:36:12,204 --> 00:36:15,572
There was one morning,
I literally just got frozen.
762
00:36:15,574 --> 00:36:17,774
I could not move at all.
And it just --
763
00:36:17,776 --> 00:36:21,077
There was something
holding me down in bed
764
00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:23,180
That wouldn't
let me roll over.
765
00:36:23,182 --> 00:36:24,181
Is it possible
that was her?
766
00:36:24,183 --> 00:36:26,116
Oh, yeah, sure.
767
00:36:26,118 --> 00:36:28,018
No doubt in my mind.
768
00:36:28,020 --> 00:36:30,120
Now, could she
do anything else?
769
00:36:30,122 --> 00:36:36,793
I went to the room now
at the opposite end.
770
00:36:36,795 --> 00:36:38,395
Is that your
master bedroom?
771
00:36:38,397 --> 00:36:39,696
Yes.
772
00:36:39,698 --> 00:36:43,166
So, I am in there, and the woman
and the dead boy
773
00:36:43,168 --> 00:36:46,102
Team up with each other
in that room.
774
00:36:46,104 --> 00:36:49,005
Together, the two of them
have created
775
00:36:49,007 --> 00:36:52,175
An unbearably chaotic
paranormal environment,
776
00:36:52,177 --> 00:36:54,644
And they are
gearing it towards you.
777
00:36:54,646 --> 00:36:57,714
??
778
00:36:57,716 --> 00:37:01,484
Nightmare images,
noises --
779
00:37:01,486 --> 00:37:06,223
I was, like,
stunned mute, like...
780
00:37:06,225 --> 00:37:09,192
It's just chaos.
781
00:37:09,194 --> 00:37:12,429
I did have a sketch done
of the two of them
782
00:37:12,431 --> 00:37:15,899
Harassing the person
in that bedroom.
783
00:37:15,901 --> 00:37:21,004
??
784
00:37:21,006 --> 00:37:26,176
??
785
00:37:26,178 --> 00:37:27,911
This sketch is
like a nightmare.
786
00:37:27,913 --> 00:37:33,250
??
787
00:37:33,252 --> 00:37:38,588
??
788
00:37:38,590 --> 00:37:40,790
Jennifer:
That's my life.
789
00:37:40,792 --> 00:37:43,260
That's my life
in that bedroom.
790
00:37:43,262 --> 00:37:44,861
It's a nightmare
in there.
791
00:37:44,863 --> 00:37:47,130
Jennifer, tell amy
about your nightmares.
792
00:37:47,132 --> 00:37:49,232
I mean, I literally,
physically wake up
793
00:37:49,234 --> 00:37:52,302
Either screaming or crying.
794
00:37:52,304 --> 00:37:53,637
They're so detailed.
795
00:37:53,639 --> 00:37:57,407
It's like I just lived
that moment, for real.
796
00:37:57,409 --> 00:38:00,443
What's this woman and this kid
want with jennifer?
797
00:38:00,445 --> 00:38:04,714
Both of these people
are inherently evil.
798
00:38:04,716 --> 00:38:08,318
They were born
with no soul.
799
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:14,424
They both believe the living
woman here is like them.
800
00:38:14,426 --> 00:38:16,192
Talking about jennifer?
801
00:38:16,194 --> 00:38:17,694
That's what they said.
802
00:38:17,696 --> 00:38:19,562
They see a kinship
with her,
803
00:38:19,564 --> 00:38:22,732
And they are reaching out
to turn her bad like they are.
804
00:38:22,734 --> 00:38:26,836
??
805
00:38:26,838 --> 00:38:30,407
But I don't want to be bad
like they are.
806
00:38:30,409 --> 00:38:33,643
I believe they would like
nothing more
807
00:38:33,645 --> 00:38:35,445
Than to drive you insane,
808
00:38:35,447 --> 00:38:38,515
And make you guys
kill yourselves.
809
00:38:38,517 --> 00:38:42,652
But it was indicated to me that,
if that's not successful,
810
00:38:42,654 --> 00:38:46,289
That they'll work on
doing a direct killing.
811
00:38:46,291 --> 00:38:47,791
Oh, my god.
812
00:38:47,793 --> 00:38:54,130
??
813
00:39:08,146 --> 00:39:11,047
Jennifer, dana, now we know
what's causing the hell
814
00:39:11,049 --> 00:39:12,749
That you and your family
have been going through,
815
00:39:12,751 --> 00:39:14,818
But we still haven't answered
your big question.
816
00:39:14,820 --> 00:39:16,920
Is there anything you can do
to fix this,
817
00:39:16,922 --> 00:39:18,288
Or are you better off
just packing up
818
00:39:18,290 --> 00:39:19,889
And getting the hell
out of here?
819
00:39:19,891 --> 00:39:21,391
For that answer,
I'm gonna turn it over to amy.
820
00:39:21,393 --> 00:39:24,894
??
821
00:39:24,896 --> 00:39:28,998
So, what I would like you to do
is to reach out
822
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,703
To a couple
of local pagans.
823
00:39:33,705 --> 00:39:38,007
I haven't heard you
mention pagans in a long time.
824
00:39:38,009 --> 00:39:39,809
Why so much
for this case?
825
00:39:39,811 --> 00:39:43,413
They're very used to,
and quite comfortable
826
00:39:43,415 --> 00:39:47,884
Dealing with
very dark things.
827
00:39:47,886 --> 00:39:52,589
Day 1, they need to move on the
guy who died from the overdose.
828
00:39:52,591 --> 00:39:55,558
He just needs to be made aware
of a few things,
829
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,596
And he'll more or less
go fairly easily.
830
00:39:59,598 --> 00:40:04,534
Day 2, they need to remove
the old woman and the boy.
831
00:40:04,536 --> 00:40:09,539
So, you may, while they're doing
this, want to sleep elsewhere,
832
00:40:09,541 --> 00:40:14,711
Because they may become
extremely active,
833
00:40:14,713 --> 00:40:20,150
And things could get chaotic --
more so than it's been.
834
00:40:20,152 --> 00:40:22,285
Once all of this is done,
835
00:40:22,287 --> 00:40:26,089
You guys will be feeling
so much better.
836
00:40:26,091 --> 00:40:29,058
It'll feel like a completely
different house.
837
00:40:29,060 --> 00:40:33,029
It'll feel very empty,
very quiet, and very peaceful.
838
00:40:33,031 --> 00:40:35,532
Well, I'm excited for that,
because we haven't felt that
839
00:40:35,534 --> 00:40:37,500
Since we moved in.
840
00:40:37,502 --> 00:40:39,836
Now, when you get this all done,
no more nightmares,
841
00:40:39,838 --> 00:40:41,971
No more shadow figures,
842
00:40:41,973 --> 00:40:43,640
No more getting pushed
down the stairs.
843
00:40:43,642 --> 00:40:46,309
And the kids will finally
get some peace.
844
00:40:46,311 --> 00:40:49,712
Yeah, it's a lot to take in,
but...
845
00:40:49,714 --> 00:40:52,582
Definitely very hopeful.
846
00:40:52,584 --> 00:40:56,519
And this is advice that you guys
are gonna take, I assume.
847
00:40:56,521 --> 00:40:57,821
Absolutely. Yeah.
848
00:40:57,823 --> 00:40:59,522
I want you to promise me,
though, because I love you guys,
849
00:40:59,524 --> 00:41:01,424
And I don't want to see
anything bad happen.
850
00:41:01,426 --> 00:41:03,226
- Absolutely.
- Without a doubt.
851
00:41:03,228 --> 00:41:07,230
I'm happy to have my bedroom
back -- get it back.
852
00:41:07,232 --> 00:41:10,567
I'm ready to get
started tomorrow.
853
00:41:10,569 --> 00:41:11,768
That old ****
has to go.
854
00:41:11,770 --> 00:41:14,370
This is our house now.
So, she had her time,
855
00:41:14,372 --> 00:41:16,773
And time to
send her packing.
856
00:41:16,775 --> 00:41:18,308
I can't thank you enough
for coming out here,
857
00:41:18,310 --> 00:41:20,577
And doing this for us.
858
00:41:20,579 --> 00:41:24,013
Amy: Jennifer and dana's family
has been through hell,
859
00:41:24,015 --> 00:41:27,817
But I believe, if they work
with a couple of local pagans,
860
00:41:27,819 --> 00:41:30,353
They'll be able to free
their home of evil,
861
00:41:30,355 --> 00:41:32,555
And find the peace
they deserve.
862
00:41:36,561 --> 00:41:38,428
Hi, guys. Just wanted to
give you an update
863
00:41:38,430 --> 00:41:41,564
On what's been going on in
our home since you've been out.
864
00:41:41,566 --> 00:41:45,668
We have had the team
of pagan ladies come out,
865
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:50,106
And perform different
ceremonies, rituals on our home.
866
00:41:50,108 --> 00:41:51,841
It's been very peaceful.
867
00:41:51,843 --> 00:41:53,776
Everyone is happy.
Moods are better.
868
00:41:53,778 --> 00:41:55,011
We're getting sleep.
869
00:41:55,013 --> 00:41:56,446
We can't thank
you guys enough.
870
00:41:56,448 --> 00:41:58,781
You have literally given us
our home back.
871
00:41:58,783 --> 00:42:00,884
So, thank you.
Keep up the great work.
872
00:42:00,934 --> 00:42:05,484
Repair and Synchronization by
Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0
67076
Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.